Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nounce;2526099]I would walk on the road, cross the street when necessary, and avoid the sidewalk at that hour for sure. The parking across the street is where more zombies start to show up. It's not a good idea to go north past that point.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure if walking in the street would make much of a difference as a group of guys would just tackle you and feast on you even in the middle of road like vultures, and any cars would drive around it.

When it's time to feast, the zombies can be like vultures, so staying away from the zombie infested area's is the smartest thing to do.

Unless of course your looking for a zombie to bang!

[QUOTE=PacoEspanis;2526026]I have a doubt.

I am Latino with brown skin but I have never been there, since I am from Spain.

Will I have a hard time picking up girls?[/QUOTE]Your in like flint, you will most probably be able to pass as a Colombian, and may not be able to pick up any girls for free, but all of the ones you have to pay for will be available to you. Read the forum and get ready for fun!

[QUOTE=Nounce;2526096]I guess you missed the reports about cedula requirement for both places you mentioned. It has gotten stricter last couple of years in many other places too.[/QUOTE]No I didn't miss the reports actually. I read the forum extensively for 3 months and heard all about Cédulas . It's was my first time in Colombia and there is a learning curve. I'm used to Mongering in Thailand where almost all girls have one standard type of ID and there is no such issue. I asked girls here if they had a Cédula at first and that's as far as it went because I'm not yet an expert on the different types of legally accepted IDs by different nationalities and what girls perceive to be accepted forms of ID when they confirm they have a Cédula . Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2525936] Edit. I was not sure whether to post about the stabbing or not. Its not intended to shock or scare anyone. Centro after dark carries a high degree of risk as has been reported numerous times. Overall , Colombians are extremely, respecfull, polite and friendly people with most areas being safe.[/QUOTE]Everyone should post when they observe or have first hand knowledge of an incident involving a foreigner. The reason I say this is because we need a constant reminder of the dangers in Colombia, and it's just not in El Centro, and Poblado, but everywhere.

You can never let your guard down, no matter where you are, and when you least expect it, you can get jacked up.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2526120]No I didn't miss the reports actually. I read the forum extensively for 3 months and heard all about Cdulas . It's was my first time in Colombia and there is a learning curve. I'm used to Mongering in Thailand where almost all girls have one standard type of ID and there is no such issue. I asked girls here if they had a Cdula at first and that's as far as it went because I'm not yet an expert on the different types of legally accepted IDs by different nationalities and what girls perceive to be accepted forms of ID when they confirm they have a Cdula . Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?[/QUOTE]For Colombians that don't have Cedulas there is another form of ID that some places will accept that is called a "denucia", I don't know if I spelled it correctly, but it means report.

I have a few regulars that have lost their Cedulas which are a pain the ass to replace, so once I went with one of my girls to a place that has a registry of Cedulas and can look up based on the person's name and date of birth whether they are in the system, and provide a printout verifying that this person has a Cedula that is missing.

I may not have this completely correct what I just described, but based on my personal experience with two of my regulars, when I have shown up at Hotels with them, they have accepted the denucia in lieu of a physical Cedula, albeit I know other places will not accept this.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2526120] Were you an instant expert as soon as you first landed?[/QUOTE]You said you had 5 girls refused. But it seems some are problems on girls' side, you were unlucky to run into all of the issues. Your report will be valuable to others. Thanks.

The more you text the more I felt you were disclosing who you are and its not pretty. I agree Colombians running around with cedula is plentiful and uncommon in most countries. But you seem to gravitate to these people and looking for apartment to accommodate further marks suspicion. Now I wanted to move out San Peters so I can do 3 somes. You want to move out to bring girls in without cedula. JohnnyO it does not sound pretty. [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2526055]You sir are 100% correct.

Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.

So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.

Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.

I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused.

I had 2 girls from CC permitted and 1 from Avenida De Grill permitted. From reading reports I was under the impression that a girl would wave her ID and be good to go, that's not the case. They are very strict on ID and it is scanned and checks are made online.

I understand that this is for safety but for me it just doesn't work with how I roll. I met quite a few sweet girls not just on the streets but in casas and other places that I got along really well with and not being able to take them to my own apartment became frustrating, especially during curfews after 10pm when girls really wanted to hang out with me..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2526055]You sir are 100% correct.

Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.

So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.

Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.

I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused...[/QUOTE]I understand now. It's part of your learning curve. SP follows the ID laws very diligently. According to the manager, they get fined some outrageous amount like 10 k USD or something, for violations. So they don't mess around. Also, those are the exact same rules followed by the folks own and live in those apartments.

They scan the ID into the computer and check it against the police criminal database. So, they are not playing with the stuff. The same rules apply to delivery guys and everyone.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2526129]For Colombians that don't have Cedulas there is another form of ID that some places will accept that is called a "denucia", I don't know if I spelled it correctly, but it means report.

I have a few regulars that have lost their Cedulas which are a pain the ass to replace, so once I went with one of my girls to a place that has a registry of Cedulas and can look up based on the person's name and date of birth whether they are in the system, and provide a printout verifying that this person has a Cedula that is missing.

I may not have this completely correct what I just described, but based on my personal experience with two of my regulars, when I have shown up at Hotels with them, they have accepted the denucia in lieu of a physical Cedula, albeit I know other places will not accept this.[/QUOTE]Yes, Colombians can get a temporary paper ID, if they lost their cedula. It doesn't have a picture on it. Some places accept it, other's don't, without another picture ID. SP doesn't accept them without another picture ID.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2526115]What Black Page was pointing out is that nobody wears what you are wearing in Colombia, hence you stick out and it marks you as a foreigner, and to a local, all foreigners have money, lots of money, and expensive smartphones.

And some advice for you based on how I navigate Medellin. Everything of value including my cell phone, Passport, and credit cards stays locked in my Apartment. When I need cash, I go to an ATM near where I live, get the cash, and immediately return back to my apartment and lock up my cards. When I leave my apartment to go anywhere, I carry colored photocopys of my ID's, enough cash for a daily outing, a civica card for use on the Metro, and a Colombian $ 30 USD burner phone. I dress down, wearing jeans and a T shirt, and have a backpack and try to blend in as much as possible. Carrying credit cards with you is a mistake, and if I were to loose my USA I phone with Verizon service in Colombia I would be totally hosed as I cannot get my number re-instated while outside the USA and it's my lifeline to the outside world, hence its stays locked up. This topic has been covered many times on this forum, and when I hear stories of guys getting jacked up, meaning losing things that are a pain to replace, besides cash, I have little sympathy for them, because this can all be avoided.[/QUOTE]That's what I want to hear.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2525902]"Come on now, send a mongerer I never met, $3000 cash up front with no collateral or guarantees? Do I seem like I fell of the turnip truck yesterday? After pre-paying chicas for pussy and blow job credits that has to be one of the stupidest ideas I ever heard, jaja.[/QUOTE]Flip it around. I'm supposed to take 2 days off work, a costly proposition, burn up 2 days off, fly Round trip to Philadelphia, rent a car, get a hotel, video myself saying "Philly" 20 times to different people and then expect to get reimbursed? I'm more than willing and will make a double or nothing side bet that I walk out without a problem. But, if you're proposing a challenge it's on you to put up or shut up.

[QUOTE]But I like your willingness to engage. Did I say something about my wallet? I'm too lazy to check. I don't carry one unless you count this (foto). At least you have a spine without being accusatory and defensive, for this post. I don't remember the others. I like short term memory for places like this. I liked your pocket tips. That could go into a book about mongering. Hmmm.

What is your opinion on this set up? The foto with it under the arm is how I wear it. If I leave it even partially open. EVERYONE tells me to zip it (yeah, I know, straight man set-up), strangers, police, chicas. I'm assuming the pick pockets here are talented. I heard about the "cut and run" where they cut the strap so I picked one with an extra heavy duty strap.

Bought it in Chiang Mai, Thailand, have been to at least eight countries with it, here, USA, and SE Asia, no problems. I always wonder, do you think the appearance Invites trouble or not?[/QUOTE]I almost always carry a cheap, light backpack in Medellin. I carry it over one shoulder, with my hand on the strap. All it has in it are some condoms and viagra. Plus my bottle of water (that I refill from the tap as necessary. This last trip I also had sanitizing wipes and extra masks.

If someone grabs for it and tries to run, I either jerk them off their feet, or let them take it. It's just bait. Besides what I carry in it, it's handy if I'm going to the store when I head back.

Your setup:.

From Deadpool 2 - It's a goddamn fanny pack and you know it.

Personally, I would use it the same as my backpack. Carry things you don't mind losing in it. Maybe a light jacket for the rain, condoms, viagra, maybe a snack. Given the option a thief will grab it rather than go through your pockets.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2526112]So if I want to smash Centro hoes at Premier Plaza I need to bring a VALID passport, I rather have my phone or wallet stolen / lost than that! I keep that in my room at all times.

I wonder if they take expired passports, or DL?

Is there are clean short time place with towels and hot showers that won't check my ID in El Centro?[/QUOTE]I suggest you carry a color copy of your Passport along with a copy of the page that shows the stamp / date of entry into the Country. There are other short time Hotels besides Premier Plaza that will let you in without an ID, and one of the reasons Premier Plaza does this is because they are licensed to allow foreigners to stay overnight, where as others are not. Additionally, this hotel serves as an informal police substation where at times the Police sit in the lobby and use the Internet so they are under quite a bit of scrutiny, but in a good way. Forget carrying a DL, they will have no clue what they are because nobody can read or understand English in El Centro. It's not like Tijuana.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2526055]You sir are 100% correct.

Please note that this is based on my own personal experience of how I am rolling here. In my original reference to SP I'm not saying they are refusing girls outright, I said "it's almost impossible for me to get girls past the gatekeeper". For a lot, this info will be irrelevant but I hope it will help some especially those that like to roam around centro and newcomers because I wish I had of known this before arriving.

So after a couple of weeks of hitting Centro clubs, bars strip clubs and random places I find a few gems that I make plans to spend more time with back at mine since I had quite a nice apartment, maybe even a day trip together. We go and get supplies, and I remind them they need a cedula. They show up and I pay for the cab, first girl, Venezuelan ID, no way unless they have a passport so I have to send her back in the cab with a small tip.

Now straight up, in and around Centro including casas over 90% of the girls I came across were Venezuelan so that's going to rule them out of entry into SP straight away unless they have a passport which they don't.

I had 5 girls refused in total. The Colombians I stressed they needed a Colombian cedula, they assured me that had it, one shows with some letter, refused. The others had some sort of ID but not a Cedeula, SP says the ID is OK but with that type of ID a passport is also required, refused..[/QUOTE]That's a clear explanation. Now let me clear it up further.

I don't remember the age, but as a child, every Colombian gets an official ID card. This ID is good up to the 18th birthday. Then they are supposed to go to Migracion and apply for a cedula. When they do that, they get a letter called a Contraseña, which is used along with the original ID for identification until they can pick up their cedula at Migracion. At that time they are supposed to surrender the ID. All this takes about 2 weeks.

The original ID isn't valid without the Contraseña. The Contraseña isn't valid without the original ID. One common practice is for a girl to "lose" her ID when she gets her cedula. The "lost" ID ends up in the hands of a sister or cousin, who tries to use it until she is old enough to get her own cedula.

Gringos look at it, check the date and assume she's old enough, but most aren't. That's why San Peter Apartments won't let them in.

When in doubt, ask to see the cedula. Flip it over and check the birthday.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2526099]I would walk on the road, cross the street when necessary, and avoid the sidewalk at that hour for sure. The parking across the street is where more zombies start to show up. It's not a good idea to go north past that point.[/QUOTE]Or to go west either.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2526123]Everyone should post when they observe or have first hand knowledge of an incident involving a foreigner. The reason I say this is because we need a constant reminder of the dangers in Colombia, and it's just not in El Centro, and Poblado, but everywhere.

You can never let your guard down, no matter where you are, and when you least expect it, you can get jacked up.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. Most times its little things, but can be big things other times, but it still gives someone awareness and potentially may help them. Most guys somehow feel embarassed and don't talk about it.

Like if you get in a cab in lleras, make sure the dude starts his meter. If you let him go even a mile before catching youself, he can refuse and tell you some shit about its not metered this time of night and rip you off.

One tried to get me to pay 30 mil from lleras to energy. I didn't even pay 1/2 that back from La isla!

I had little recourse, but after reaching my destination, I got out and told him, I know the price is 10 mil, I will give you 15 mil and you take that or I have your cab number and other details and I will go in and call in a complaint. He took the 15 mil.

They look at a gringo and sometimes just rationalize taking from them as they feel it is OK because you won't miss it.

I can tell you most of us will pay it, and Minority of them will even mention it in the future.
Same thing when it goes south with a chica. We have all faced it. Some like Blackman, man up and chronicle their errors for others to learn from, others not.