Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Elmo;2253461]It has been 10 years since I last mongered and posted here.

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Bangkok 2018 - both good and bad. Your mileage may vary.[/QUOTE]So there is a little cheerleader type go-go dancer in either Dollhouse or Cowboy 2 on Soi Cowboy who is up for wild abandon bareback sex for only 1,000 baht, including the barfine. Or was that no barfine to the bar and just 1,000 baht to her? Or was it only 1,000 baht barfine and the little cheerleader girl goes for free? Maybe I missed something there.

My, my, but things have certainly improved in those Soi Cowboy bars! I might mosy on over there tonight to see if little Pap is free and hasn't been swamped and booked up solid every 2 hours for the next couple of years.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2253852]

Your bill for 1250 does not seem to be enough to cover the BF and the drinks, unless you are some bargain basement bar. Therefore I have to assume the other 1000 paid upfront was a Barfine? If not how do you explain it? 700 is minimum barfine? Just does not seem to add up to be 100% truth. I suppose 3 lady drinks could be just 450 in some super cheap bars (I don't know which ones, and your drink 100 baht)?

Gogo girls don't go for 1K anymore. Street walkers for quick 30 min fuck, yes. Did I misunderstand and this was the year 2008? "If it just too good to be true, .....". I never heard of anyone paying just 1K Upfront for a 2 hour GFE ST. Just doesn't sound possible in 2018.

[/QUOTE]Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for [b]1,0000 B[/b]. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."

Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.

Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2253860]Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for [b]1,0000 B[/b]. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."

Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.

Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.[/QUOTE]Ha ha. Your imagination is much better than mine, so you come up with lots of scenarios that I did not even think of.

Was his 2300 total a typo too? 555. To be honest I did not even notice the 10 K typo.

I must admit I sometimes struggled to choose the correct bills in a dark bar, with the colouring not always sufficiently strongly different and long sighted.

Another theory is she expected to receive huge bonus payment and was shocked to not receive it, said nothing (Thais can be like that), and walked off angry (not looking back) having been stiffed, the so called 3 Thai guys not being relevant at all.

Plenty of bargirls have reported to me problems with guys not paying after sex.

The only thing I really like about Soi 7/1 is the location and a couple of the hotels there. The ladyboys who are working at massage places and a couple of bars are truly aggressive and annoying. But I decided to step up into the Cool Sports Bar, directly across from Magic Table for a nightcap and to watch some pool. I politely refused attention from the high mileage working girls there and relaxed with my drink. A waitress sat directly across from me but did not bother me. After awhile she seemed to want to work on her limited English a bit from time to time. When I asked how long she worked there she gave the standard reply "3 weeks". True or not, this time it sounded believable. I had 2 drinks, played some pool and bought her a drink. She had that fresh from the country look and lack of language skills. I accurately guessed her age at 24. She is no way a spinner who could work at a gogo bar. I'd say she is a 6 in face and body, being of stout build and not ugly. A good smile and nice eyes. I decided to see if she was up for it. She was excited to accept. She said she wanted 2,000. I offered 1,000. She countered 1,500. I stuck with 1,000 and 500 BF.

The only thing I checked with her was if she would kiss. Off we go. She was not shy and we started in the shower. I started with few kisses and then some kisses on her neck and ears while rubbing her nipple. She lit up immediately and turned out to be one of the most sexually responsive women I have ever had. She was definitely newly arrived. Her Bush was like a disco afro. I thought about taking time to trim it but she was already hot. On the bed I continued the same routine as in the shower and then slowly made my way down for DATY. Pausing to suck her nipples I thought she might cum then. When I made my way through the Bush she was sweet and sopping like a 24 yo will be. I tried to make it last and I am sure that she woke up everyone on that floor. Quite a screamer. Her oral skills made me wonder just what these young-uns get up up country. She was good and I could have CIM but opted for a condom and missionary. I was not surprised by how tight she was as I had already explored her with 1 finger while going down on her. After my own satisfaction I turned her over backside up. More neck kisses and worked my way down to rim her and finger fuck her. She resisted for about 1 second and then started screaming again.

She will not meet your spec if you are too picky. I maintain that I am picky, just not too picky. I also have an excellent track record with service staff who are willing to go but rarely get asked. I repeated with her 2 nights later and I could see evidence of coaching already. Her Bush was trimmed and she was not quite as eager. But it was still good. Her name is BO. In a field of 5 or 6 bar girls and ladyboys, she stands out as the only chunky waitress needing a wardrobe upgrade. She might be completely spoiled in another month. Get her while she's fresh. Do report back please.

C4 T.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2253088]
Now to sum up, these methods are not 100% full proof but they have worked for me for the last 7 years in Thailand and the previous 4 years in other Asian countries. Jai Dee or good men get what they want more often than not in this country. I hope my best practices will work for some of you as well as they have worked for me. Happy mongering in BKK.
[/QUOTE]I agree was one of the best reports ever and certainly for a few years. I would add the proviso about choosing a girl wisely to getting what we want. Plenty of times I got a poor girl, but know very well I could have been more careful in the choice.

Since we are being so candid about BBFS, I wonder if it would be rude to ask a question about this, without being a safe sex preacher at all. We all know how much better BBFS can be over covered. Likely to enjoy twice as much, and twice as likely.

Can I ask about how risky is the BBFS, realistically. I put up first by stating I have had Chlamydia twice, once from either BBFS with Thai girl in home country (she denies having anything at all) or from a BBBJ from older girl at the Grace (No FS). Other time was in one eye only, dick not infected, from a "JOne" girl. One other discharge case was tested and found not to be an STD (the girl did not give it to me and did not have it either). In last 13 years, I have had a regular GF, and I have had no STDs, however BBFS has been limited to a special girl or the odd brief one from condom breakage or slip off. Also have been tested regularly in recent years.

From what I read, new HIV cases have declined a lot over the years. Probably was more dangerous back 15 to 20 years ago. Not sure if other STDs are declining or growing. I do know that non-hookers are almost as likely to have an STD than hookers because they BBFS a lot.

So my question is, if a guy does mostly BBFS in Bangkok, what is the expected number of basic STDs (not HIV)? As much as one a year, or less, and are the lowest class girls the most risky? Are Tulip and SW girls risky? I ask these questions from point of view, that if I should start BBFSing more than before, what is the likely level of risk. I am not trying to debate if condoms totally prevent risk but assume that using them reduces risk. One buddy came to Bangkok for first time, and had the Gonner within a few days. Seems to be easy to catch from bad bargirls without a condom, or from any girl with suspect customers.

Do you have any views about girls' risking pregnancy? It is well known that taking the pill is not foolproof, but a combination of pill and condom use makes pregnancy significantly less likely, or even condoms and morning after pill after accidents. Many Thai girls will not have an abortion for religious reasons, so some girls do get pregnant to customers and still have the baby. I am aware of an Oily MP girl with a rather dark skinned baby (presumably not full Thai) and she claimed she was taking the pill, and another bargirl I knew had a half Farang baby, as examples. Are there any extra ways Thai hookers reduce pregnancy risk? I heard the 3 monthly injections are not that infallible also. Clearly regularly bare backing girls could have no clues who the father is. The withdrawal method of birth control is also considered very unreliable, but used in combination with the pill, may give fairly good coverage. Is that the main reason why girls request not to CIP?

What is the reaction to guys that CIP when not permitted?

Do you believe that guys are permitted BBFS somewhat based on levels of trust, i.e. maybe not all guys given same service?

I was chilling at the back of level 3 in NEP a couple of nights ago when this young plump Chinese dude walks out of Billboard with the hottest babe I have seen in a long time. She walks past in this full length / gym body suit and everybody just un ashamedly steers at her, including the NEP security guys. No one even bothered to pretend to not stare, it was just a fuckit I am going to stare because she is that smoking hot moment!

She can be seen prominently on the Billboardbangkok twitter feed, with virtually every 3rd shot with her and is also featured in several photos shoots in November. She is the one that is slightly darker than most, belly button length black wavy hair and very unique eyes.

Ironically I just got off the BTS at Nana and saw her merge in front of me. She looked even more amazing in a black outfit that showed off her quote dark tan.

Anyway, has anyone partaken in her?

Bkkdog,

I salute you for the excellent newbie guide and tips. The only scene I'm familiar here is the Smooci's though I've always been curious about go-go bars. I'm a bit on the shy side so Smooci has been helpful and most importantly reasonably priced.

I'll try the go-go bar scene but for ST and LT- how long are we talking here and how many shots is expected? 4-6 k for a night would be terrific especially morning's sex in the menu.

And by the way, I prefer to stay in Sathorn / Wireless- will it affect my experience had I not stayed in Sukhumvit area?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2253860]Well, there was what I had assumed was a typo in one part of his report: "Waitress says, I will go talk to her. She comes back and says that if I buy Pap two more lady drinks, she will go with me for [b]1,0000 B[/b]. I say okay, but lets go over to the small stage where she is at."

Now, IF it wasn't a typo and he did indeed agree to pay 10000 baht for the ST with Pap, I could better understand the great attitude and wild abandon bareback sex. On the other hand, maybe he got confused after the drinks and actually did peel off 10000 baht instead of 1000 baht to give the mamasan and has not realized it until this moment.

Of course, the funniest outcome (although not for Pap) would be if Pap THOUGHT he had agreed to and peeled off 10000 baht to give to the mamasan to hold for her and it was only when she returned to the bar later that she discovered the horrible truth. lol.[/QUOTE]I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.

It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.

Total cost 2,300 baht.

Maybe it helped that she spoke Lao as her first language, as many from Issan speak it, and I had learned a little Lao. Sabaidee (Hello), korp jai lie lie (Thank you very much); etc. Probably also helped that we had really good chemistry together, laughing and being silly.

On the other hand, my Baccara experience that I posted in the same report, from the prior night, sucked, which makes this event even more amazing.

I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.

Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.

If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.

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[QUOTE=Elmo;2254162]

I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.

Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.

If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.[/QUOTE]I don't think you have to respond to anyone questioning the accuracy of your reports. I believe if anyone is intentionally lying about their adventures in Thailand they must be nuts because if you can think in the LOS it will happen. There is an element who look at every word typed and can not help themselves but to comment. They contribute little but type a lot! In my opinion all that matters is that you had a good time and if no one believes you who really cares.

Enjoy your mongering and I will read your Phuket report now.

All the best.

Rob.

[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2253916]I was chilling at the back of level 3 in NEP a couple of nights ago when this young plump Chinese dude walks out of Billboard with the hottest babe I have seen in a long time. She walks past in this full length / gym body suit and everybody just un ashamedly steers at her, including the NEP security guys. No one even bothered to pretend to not stare, it was just a fuckit I am going to stare because she is that smoking hot moment!
[/QUOTE]Are you talking about this one, or is your taste different to mine?

Billboard's Pic attached.

[QUOTE=Elmo;2254162]I never knew there was a 10,000 baht note. Never seen one before. But since only 2nd time in Thailand, maybe they do exist. 1,000 baht notes are a lightish brown color, and what one gets from the ATM typically.

It was a typo. I gave Pap 1,000 baht at the bar. I rolled the 1,000 baht note up, and put it between her little tits in her halter top. And my bill for the lady drinks was 1,250 baht and I gave the waitress a tip of 50 baht. Of the 1,250 baht bill, all of it was lady drinks except for the 1 Singha I had, as I don't really drink much.

Total cost 2,300 baht.

Maybe it helped that she spoke Lao as her first language, as many from Issan speak it, and I had learned a little Lao. Sabaidee (Hello), korp jai lie lie (Thank you very much); etc. Probably also helped that we had really good chemistry together, laughing and being silly.

On the other hand, my Baccara experience that I posted in the same report, from the prior night, sucked, which makes this event even more amazing.

I don't really care what folks think, but this is what happened. 2nd time in Thailand, first was in 2008, right after Int'l airport opened, and now this trip.

Check my member profile. My postings are all from 2004-08 in Brazil, carribean, and Mex. With pics of the garotas de programas that I did back then.

If not believing this report, I suggest you skip my report in the phuket section. Had a great time there too.[/QUOTE]I have never seen a 10,000 baht note either and did not mean to say someone could peel off a single note and get it wrong in that way. But for sure the new king 1,000 baht notes look remarkably like the new king 100 baht notes in a dark environment where the different colors don't stand out. I have peeled off one of those 1,000 baht notes and one of those 100 baht notes in a dark setting at a cashier in a Starbuck's thinking I was giving her 200 baht and only caught it because the girl looked a little longer at the notes a bit confused.

Your experience with Pap from that Soi Cowboy go-go bar is probably the most successful go-go bargirl report I have ever read short of the mamasan waving off the barfine and the go-go girl giving a punter a top quality True GFE Long Time for free. Nobody will do better than that imo. Good for you.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2253887]I agree was one of the best reports ever and certainly for a few years. I would add the proviso about choosing a girl wisely to getting what we want. Plenty of times I got a poor girl, but know very well I could have been more careful in the choice.

Since we are being so candid about BBFS, I wonder if it would be rude to ask a question about this, without being a safe sex preacher at all. We all know how much better BBFS can be over covered. Likely to enjoy twice as much, and twice as likely.

Can I ask about how risky is the BBFS, realistically. I put up first by stating I have had Chlamydia twice, once from either BBFS with Thai girl in home country (she denies having anything at all) or from a BBBJ from older girl at the Grace (No FS). Other time was in one eye only, dick not infected, from a "JOne" girl. One other discharge case was tested and found not to be an STD (the girl did not give it to me and did not have it either). In last 13 years, I have had a regular GF, and I have had no STDs, however BBFS has been limited to a special girl or the odd brief one from condom breakage or slip off. Also have been tested regularly in recent years.

From what I read, new HIV cases have declined a lot over the years. Probably was more dangerous back 15 to 20 years ago. Not sure if other STDs are declining or growing. I do know that non-hookers are almost as likely to have an STD than hookers because they BBFS a lot.

So my question is, if a guy does mostly BBFS in Bangkok, what is the expected number of basic STDs (not HIV)? As much as one a year, or less, and are the lowest class girls the most risky? Are Tulip and SW girls risky? I ask these questions from point of view, that if I should start BBFSing more than before, what is the likely level of risk. I am not trying to debate if condoms totally prevent risk but assume that using them reduces risk. One buddy came to Bangkok for first time, and had the Gonner within a few days. Seems to be easy to catch from bad bargirls without a condom, or from any girl with suspect customers.

Do you have any views about girls' risking pregnancy? It is well known that taking the pill is not foolproof, but a combination of pill and condom use makes pregnancy significantly less likely, or even condoms and morning after pill after accidents. Many Thai girls will not have an abortion for religious reasons, so some girls do get pregnant to customers and still have the baby. I am aware of an Oily MP girl with a rather dark skinned baby (presumably not full Thai) and she claimed she was taking the pill, and another bargirl I knew had a half Farang baby, as examples. Are there any extra ways Thai hookers reduce pregnancy risk? I heard the 3 monthly injections are not that infallible also. Clearly regularly bare backing girls could have no clues who the father is. The withdrawal method of birth control is also considered very unreliable, but used in combination with the pill, may give fairly good coverage. Is that the main reason why girls request not to CIP?

What is the reaction to guys that CIP when not permitted?

Do you believe that guys are permitted BBFS somewhat based on levels of trust, i.e. maybe not all guys given same service?[/QUOTE]Sincerely, through the years you've been one of the top contributors on ISG. I'm more likely to read your posts, just because you wrote them. Given that, this post is incredibly naive. Maybe that's a good thing, as it means you haven't barebacked enough providers to have much experience with the perils of unprotected sex.

Anyway, just don't do it. You will get burned. If you start barebacking every hooker you're with, you will get STD's, chlamydia and HPV for sure, and it won't take long. A year? If you're doing a couple of different women a week you'd be lucky to last a month. The bigger concern is pregnancy. Unprotected sex, regardless of whether it's with prostitutes or civilians, can totally fuck up your life. I speak from experience.

Some joker on one of the boards like ISG long ago said he'd been with something like 1500 or 2000 women in southeast Asia bareback and never caught anything. Undoubtedly the guy would have contracted HPV, chlamydia and herpes. He might not have necessarily known it, as often people have these STD's but don't recognize the symptoms. But he had them, unless he had some kind of superhuman immune system. He disappeared after a while -- I figure he may have gotten HIV and passed away.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2254247]Sincerely, through the years you've been one of the top contributors on ISG. I'm more likely to read your posts, just because you wrote them. Given that, this post is incredibly naive. Maybe that's a good thing, as it means you haven't barebacked enough providers to have much experience with the perils of unprotected sex.

Anyway, just don't do it. You will get burned. If you start barebacking every hooker you're with, you will get STD's, chlamydia and HPV for sure, and it won't take long. A year? If you're doing a couple of different women a week you'd be lucky to last a month. The bigger concern is pregnancy. Unprotected sex, regardless of whether it's with prostitutes or civilians, can totally fuck up your life. I speak from experience.

Some joker on one of the boards like ISG long ago said he'd been with something like 1500 or 2000 women in southeast Asia bareback and never caught anything. Undoubtedly the guy would have contracted HPV, chlamydia and herpes. He might not have necessarily known it, as often people have these STD's but don't recognize the symptoms. But he had them, unless he had some kind of superhuman immune system. He disappeared after a while -- I figure he may have gotten HIV and passed away.[/QUOTE]You are correct. Play bare enough and you will contract STDs. HIV however is not likely, but multi-drug resistant strains of chla and gon are on the rise. Yep, HPV and HSV II as well. Most guys who use condoms will eventually contract these as well. To think you will be immune is naive. And for us over 50 guys, get an infection that travels to the prostate and it is a b#%ch to get rid of. For most of us, and I don't "skin it" for vag or anal, it is a risk we are willing to take.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2254287]You are correct. Play bare enough and you will contract STDs. HIV however is not likely, but multi-drug resistant strains of chla and gon are on the rise. Yep, HPV and HSV II as well. Most guys who use condoms will eventually contract these as well. To think you will be immune is naive. And for us over 50 guys, get an infection that travels to the prostate and it is a b#%ch to get rid of. For most of us, and I don't "skin it" for vag or anal, it is a risk we are willing to take.[/QUOTE]Words of wisdom Goatscrot. You don't have to be over 50 to get something in your prostate. I had chlamydia when I was in my early 30's that went untreated, and my urologist believed that caused chronic prostatitis. That shit stuck with me for many years.