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[QUOTE=Rwaters]Day 1-Thursday- Oase or World

As I am flying in from Asia probably want the place with most comfortable facilities. Also, Oase has lingere day on Thursday and maybe this may not be the best for a first time FKK visit. Any thoughts.[/QUOTE]
RW, If taking a nap at some point during the day is part of your plan, World is the much stronger option. There's an indoor pool downstairs where guys have been seen reading and napping, as well as fondling. And, right next to that, there's a large non-smoking room filled with couches large enough to stretch out on. You'll find girls passing through and hanging out some, but the non-smoking rule keeps them from spending long stretches there.

Oase has two lounges by the sauna, two more by the "warm" tub. That's it. So, if you're going to want some time to relax, undisturbed, to gather yourself and recharge, World is the much better option of the two.

Thanks for the suggestions.

BasketCase- I read your highly detailed contributions. Do you walk around the club with a pad and pen? JK. Fantastic information.

If I go to World on my first day (for the facilities) and back again on Saturday for the Faschings party, with this strategy I will only get to Oase on Sunday.

Based on my readings, it appears that Oase is the best option for Sunday. However, by going to Oase on Sunday only, I would still be missing the depth of the lineup. Thus, Oase should probably be the club I go to twice (as I have 4 days).

So, I have to list my objectives and priorities.

I want the best lineups.

I want to hit all 3 clubs.

I want to go to Oase twice with one of the days being a Sunday.

I do not want the TagDessous scene on my first day at Oase.

Not sure about the World Faschings party, but it is probably great fun.

The concept of R&R on my first day is now my last priority.

So with all that in mind, I may have the following schedule:

Day 1 Thursday, Palace

Day 2 Friday Oase

Day 3 Saturday World (Faschings Party)

Day 4 Sunday Oase

So I subject myself to the sharks at Palace on my first FKK day. Not that worried or concerned about the sharks.

If anybody is around on those days, please let me know.

RW

[QUOTE=Rwaters] Day 1 Thursday, Palace

Day 2 Friday Oase

Day 3 Saturday World (Faschings Party)

Day 4 Sunday Oase [/QUOTE]
Rwaters,

When I did my debut trip to visit the FKKs I had allocated myself 5 days from Thursday to Monday as there was time.

Silly fool that first trip was since I had not done much travelling was that I forgot my passport and missed my flight since I was not allowed to board without appropriate identification. I was told I can leave homeland and come back to homeland alright without my passport but I may not be let into Germany. I had to go home to get my passport and then had to go to another airport than the one that I was originally meant to fly out of. I also had to pay a re-booking fee to get on another flight to Frankfurt. Newbie error.

I still do at times go to the airport without my passport and have to book another flight or just forget it. So I do not get over to Germany as much as I could.

Advice: do not forget your passport or Identification card.

Your first four days of Palace for Thursday, Oase for Friday, World for Saturday and then Oase for Sunday was exactly my first four days of my five day visit. I had done a fair amount of research and was given a lot of good advice from the supportive group on another forum and also from this forum. So all I can say was what you are doing as a newbie was what I did as a newbie.

Palace is alright. I did okay. It was a Thursday. I think I ended up doing like 5-6 sessions or something silly like that at Palace. I recall I was coming in girls' mouths like the world was going to end tomorrow. It was my first FKK and I just went mad with a building full of naked women wanting to have sex with me.

When I went to Oase on Friday. I was like: I have found Paradise! A club full of all the girls with the looks that I liked and they did all the sex acts that I liked.

On Saturday at World I think my fortune had run out. I did not want to do a single girl in that club. I forced myself to go with one dark haired German girl just so I could say I did one. In the end I left around 10pm and went to Oase.

Sunday I think I went to Oase and enjoyed myself immensely again.

Monday I did Palace as I was flying home that evening. It was okay.

It was also during my debut trip that I meet my first ISG senior members by accident since they were speaking English and not German. It was also this premier trip when a girl warned me about "the mongers" that frequent the club pointing some of them out to me and yes they were "mongers". LOL.

There you go. Your turn to see what you get up on your first visit to FKKs.

[QUOTE=Gergiev]Do you happen to know if Mausi herself is available ???[/QUOTE]
She only works as a manager. Plenty of legends about her past though, including her working somewhere on the other side of the counter.

[QUOTE=Gattonero]
She only works as a manager.
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Schade!

[QUOTE=Gattonero]

Plenty of legends about her past though, including her working somewhere on the other side of the counter.
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She certainly has "that look"...

[QUOTE=Mambomike] ... If you happen to be there on the same days, need a ride ... enjoy a chick together, let me know and we can enjoy a little camaraderie.[/QUOTE]
I am not sure I understand this comment. Are you looking for another male to do a threesome with a girl so that you can "enjoy a chick together"?

Where I come from this is called a "spit roast" or a "roasting" with the men on either end of the woman acting as the spit supports and the woman is the spit in the middle being the "roast".

[QUOTE=Mambomike]Feb 8 (Mon): Oase 10:00 to 19:00 (arrive FRA 06:00, leave FRA 21:30)

Feb 17 (Wed): PC-Dortmund 12:00 to 15:00, maybe longer (arrive DUS 10:30)
Probably/possible: Babylon (most likely), LR (maybe), GT (unlikely), or PT-Bochum (unlikely) until closing; overnight in Koln

Feb 18 (Thurs): Samya 11:00 to 17:00; Bernds 18:00 to closing (overnight at Hotel Reuter)

Feb 19 (Fri): Bernds 13:00 to ???; Possible Samya, Babylon, or World until closing (depends on outcome of prior visitis to Samya, Babylon, and Oase); overnight Hotel Reuter, unless I finish Fri night at World)

Feb 20 (Sat): Oase until 05:00 closing; probable visit to World 11:00 to 18:00, depending on how much I enjoyed Oase on Feb 8.

Feb 21 (sun): Return car to FRA and leave 12:30 [/QUOTE]
This is just my opinion and I do not know what type of women that you like. I tend to go for the early twenties girls, blond, brunette or dark haired with slim to average build porn star bodies with pretty faces. Think Private label porn model type and you are on the right track. I know some guys like the frsh faced, girl next door look and some like MILFs and some like girls with big arses for grey hound position sex.

If I was doing your trip with what I know now. This is my comment:

8 Feb Oase - fine, best club on a Monday. No Messe.

17 Feb - double club visits in a day is possible. if I was in the area I would choose Living Room or Golden Time. As it is a Wednesday so expect decent line ups.

18 Feb. If I was driving down from NRW to Hesse then a stop at Samya mid way is recommended. I would do Bernds in the day time and Samya at night time since most Samya girls start at 3pm onwards with night shift around 6pm. Bernds starts earlier around 1pm(?). Anyway with my girl type preference you would never find me in Bernds but more likely Samya for its tendency for big natural breasted women on slim frames.

19 Feb, I would go to Oase - it is not the weekend but you get a line up with depth and since the ambiente Messe is over you will not have the crowds. Slight concern that it is also Carnival finishing up on Ash Wednesday on 17 Feb so hopefully the girls are all back. I know some of my Oase faves will be not be around this day. A pity.

20 Feb, I would do World for the craic and stay to the bitter end. I have done the early next morning FRA airport departure from World and from Oase. There is not much in it between the two - maybe an extra 30 minutes from World (74 Km from FRA airport) compared to Oase (33 Km from FRA airport with drive time of around 15-18 minutes).

[QUOTE=Basketcase]I am not sure I understand this comment. Are you looking for another male to do a threesome with a girl so that you can "enjoy a chick together"?

Where I come from this is called a "spit roast" or a "roasting" with the men on either end of the woman acting as the spit supports and the woman is the spit in the middle being the "roast".[/QUOTE]


Well, I mean this in the general sense. Perhaps another guy and I could take the same girl to a zimmer at different times (or two different girls to the same zimmer) and enjoy her (their) company at other times. I see a roast or sandwich as an unusual thing in an FKK setting, although I might do something like that if the opportunity presented itself. Its not my primary focus or on a TDL for the trip, however. I won't mind performing in the kino or elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]This is just my opinion and I do not know what type of women that you like. I tend to go for the early twenties girls, blond, brunette or dark haired with slim to average build porn star bodies with pretty faces. Think Private label porn model type and you are on the right track. I know some guys like the frsh faced, girl next door look and some like MILFs and some like girls with big arses for grey hound position sex.[/QUOTE]

Your preference and mine are not very different, but I also don't mind sacrificing a little on quality for good GFE like service, hence Bernds. I also prefer a little more relaxed sessions over the hurry up, processed kind. I tend to go for the taller, lithe girls, shaved muschi, possibly with a tattoo or piercing, long blonde hair, size A-C tits, who are reponsive in bed, loves to dfk and DT, and enjoys DATY.

I think given the reports, I would prefer to spend two days at Oase, hence finishing up my trip there. I have two days at Bernds, with a possible Friday night at either Samya or World.

I know I am not going to make all the potential venues on my list - they are there for contigencies so if something doesn't work out to my liking, I have a pretty good idea of an alternative. Someone highly recommended World to me, which I was not at first considering and his recommendation put World on my list as a potential, probably stop.

Maybe given your recommendation, I mght do Bernds on Thursday and Friday afternoon, followed by Samya or Babylon on Thursday, and Samya or World on Friday. If I end up at World on Friday night, I would probably stay until closing and finish up at Oase on Saturday to Sunday morning.

Of course on the way home, I'll be wondering why the stewardesses are not naked and waking me up to go to a zimmer, lol.

[QUOTE=Mambomike] Your preference and mine are not very different, but I also don't mind sacrificing a little on quality for good GFE like service, hence Bernds. I also prefer a little more relaxed sessions over the hurry up, processed kind. I tend to go for the taller, lithe girls, shaved muschi, possibly with a tattoo or piercing, long blonde hair, size A-C tits, who are reponsive in bed, loves to dfk and DT, and enjoys DATY.[/QUOTE]

Good you are not fussy with your women. That is good then you will be okay with Bernds and some of the smaller clubs on your list. You may even be into the Partytreffs that you have listed. I have been to one Partytreff and that was enough. There were even Dutch porno stars in attendance and I still could not come. I left untapped after 14 hours at that partytreff so it was not about time, it was to do with the visuals.


[QUOTE=Mambomike]I think given the reports, I would prefer to spend two days at Oase, hence finishing up my trip there. I have two days at Bernds, with a possible Friday night at either Samya or World. [/QUOTE]

Under my revised program you do get two visits to Oase - one on an off Monday for the slow getting into FKK mode and expect the girls to take their time more since they have time to devote to you as there are not hundreds of guys pulling at them. Then you get a Friday on 19 Feb to see Oase at its height with extensive line up.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]I know I am not going to make all the potential venues on my list - they are there for contigencies so if something doesn't work out to my liking, I have a pretty good idea of an alternative. Someone highly recommended World to me, which I was not at first considering and his recommendation put World on my list as a potential, probably stop. [/QUOTE]

Good, you realise that you may be a bit ambitious trying to do two clubs a day. I know it is doable but I like to relax and not spend all my time travelling. There was a guy recently who wrote a string of reports and ended up spending more money on transportation like taxis, etc.. than on the girls.

World for me really kicks off on a Friday or Saturday with more so Saturday. It is more the World craic that I like than the actual line up. Its the DJ, it is the cocktails, it is the space to hide away and do dark deeds in dark corners and the girls tend to be much younger generally and therefore up for a party. For me Oase has the line up depth.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]Maybe given your recommendation, I mght do Bernds on Thursday and Friday afternoon, followed by Samya or Babylon on Thursday, and Samya or World on Friday. If I end up at World on Friday night, I would probably stay until closing and finish up at Oase on Saturday to Sunday morning. [/QUOTE]
I am not sure you will like Babylon if you have my preference in women. Babylon has good facilties for the size of the club (think suburban house like Bernds). Samya would be my recommendation. There are FFM guys that come up to Cologne specifically for Samya. It is a nice party place and the girls take their time with you.

Doing World all nighter Friday to 05:00 closing on Saturday then resting for less than 5 hours and going to Oase for opening at 10:00 Saturday morning and staying to 05:00 closing on Sunday morning then going straight to the airport is something that I would do and some senior guys that I know. That would be my program if I knew that this visit would be the last one for a while. You want to milk the time as much as you can and enjoy it for as long as possible if you are anything like me.

[QUOTE=Basketcase]Good you are not fussy with your women. That is good then you will be okay with Bernds and some of the smaller clubs on your list. You may even be into the Partytreffs that you have listed. I have been to one Partytreff and that was enough. There were even Dutch porno stars in attendance and I still could not come. I left untapped after 14 hours at that partytreff so it was not about time, it was to do with the visuals.[/QUOTE]


I don't think I could do a PT, like Mettmann, for example. I can see some girls like that here at home, in a party setting, for no more than a $30-40 contribution toward expenses. But PC-Dortmund seems to have the quality of girls that I can get off with, such as Denise, Nina, and Chantal. So although the pictures are not up on the Bernds site, I would probably be happy there especially with the friendly, public service.


[QUOTE=Basketcase]I am not sure you will like Babylon if you have my preference in women. Babylon has good facilties for the size of the club (think suburban house like Bernds). Samya would be my recommendation. There are FFM guys that come up to Cologne specifically for Samya. It is a nice party place and the girls take their time with you.[/QUOTE]

Unlike other clubs, Babylon posts pictures of many of their girls and there are a few that are very attractive to me, including Michelle, Christina, and Mahe (ex-Bernds). I realize that their attendence is hit or miss, but I think it worth a bit of my time and euros, but not to the exclusion of Samya, which another board member (and long time compatriot) also recommended to me.

If upon seeing and observing a girl that you think you would like, how do you disengage from her if after some time at interview that you find she does not offer the GFE like experience that you expect? How do you do this without other girls assuming that you are just a time waster, and begin ignoring you or failing to come on to you in an intimate way?

Upon arriving at a club, I may take my time and be choosy for awhile, enjoying the atmosphere, unless a girl I begin chatting me is on my TDL based on reports here and elsewhere. How do you do this without seeming unapproachable, thereby possibly being ignored later?

How do you carry currency in $ or Euro, when you are visiting a club? Is it safe to store money in the safety lockers offered by the club, that you are reserving for another club later that day or next, or do you stash it in a hiding place in the car? Having currency go missing during a trip could be quite a bummer.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]How do you carry currency in $ or Euro, when you are visiting a club? Is it safe to store money in the safety lockers offered by the club, that you are reserving for another club later that day or next, or do you stash it in a hiding place in the car? Having currency go missing during a trip could be quite a bummer.[/QUOTE]
When in European countries that have the euro then I carry euro. The girls accept euros in payment and entrance fees are payable in euro too as far as I know, albeit some clubs allow entrance fee to be paid by credit card to save you using up cash notes.

I store my cash in my hat like Norjan does...

Nah, I just keep it in my wallet and put it in the valuables safety deposit locker.

I get cash out as and when I need it from cash machines. My bank does not charge the horrendous 2.5% commission nor the 1% FX charge so I get close to the market rate for euro. Much better than bureau de change and safer as I do not have to carry wads of cash.

I would not leave any cash or my valuables in the car lest it induce someone to break into it.

Yes, losing currency on a trip is a bummer.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]If upon seeing and observing a girl that you think you would like, how do you disengage from her if after some time at interview that you find she does not offer the GFE like experience that you expect? How do you do this without other girls assuming that you are just a time waster, and begin ignoring you or failing to come on to you in an intimate way?

Upon arriving at a club, I may take my time and be choosy for awhile, enjoying the atmosphere, unless a girl I begin chatting me is on my TDL based on reports here and elsewhere. How do you do this without seeming unapproachable, thereby possibly being ignored later?[/QUOTE]

Basically by not worrying too much about it. There is generally no "nice" way to do it. You just have to be firm and say, as soon as you determine you are not interested, no thanks, maybe later. Though I try to say the maybe later bit only if there really is a chance of maybe later. If I am just not interested I just say no.

Now the girls hear this a lot and react in different ways. But generally nothing bad happens and I have never really thought about being ignored later for this. I guess it could happen but it is not likely-IMO. You are still a guy with a locker full of cash hopefully.

But I also have to say that it is good to, well, not be a time waster. That is without being to rigid about it, try to respect that the girls are there to work. It is fine (and in fact many girls like this) to flirt and play a bit, but there is a line at which you have to go for it with a girl-shit or get off the pot to put it crudely. But there is no rule, just your own sense of decency to guide you. This is what I personally like about FKK interactions. It ads a very human element to P4P.

For me what it much more difficult is, as a regular customer who returns week after week, the girls you have been with a few times but in whom you lose some interest. Keeping that on an even keel can be a challenge. And indeed there are a few girls at Artemis in this category who ignore me completely now. But that is their choice, not mine, and there is not much I can do about it. Other girls stay friendly and connect with me whenever I go just to check if I am interested that particular evening.

AM

Realizing that a session is about my pleasure, sometimes I find it worthwhile to enhance stimulation with a girl. After there are few things better than having a girl get off and really wild, fucking your cock with wild abandon while you look down at her.

Have you taken one or more of those little bullet vibes into the zimmer with you to provide some added stimulation to her clit? How do you keep it (0r other items) with you when you are wearing nothing more than a towel?

And while I am at it, how do you keep the towel around your waist while in the public areas? I am pretty athletic and have no belly, but I often find it difficult to keep a towel around my waist.

[QUOTE=Mambomike]Realizing that a session is about my pleasure, sometimes I find it worthwhile to enhance stimulation with a girl. After there are few things better than having a girl get off and really wild, fucking your cock with wild abandon while you look down at her.

Have you taken one or more of those little bullet vibes into the zimmer with you to provide some added stimulation to her clit? How do you keep it (0r other items) with you when you are wearing nothing more than a towel?

And while I am at it, how do you keep the towel around your waist while in the public areas? I am pretty athletic and have no belly, but I often find it difficult to keep a towel around my waist.[/QUOTE]

The vibrator could be a bit touchy. I guess I have heard some discussion on here about vibrators but for many girls there would be a health issue with vibrators. Even if it is just a perception, having a vibrator that who knows who has used before will be a big "no" for many girls I think. And I can not say that I would blame them. I guess you could bring along some of Norjan's (see Artemis thread) antiseptic gel, but I can imagine it still being an issue for many. I guess also a condom on the vibe might make it acceptable to some girls.

But don't worry too much about getting the girl off. IME (with women in general) is that one of the biggest obstacles to getting a woman off is the guy worrying about her getting off. This in itself seems to stop the whole process. I always try to do my best and if it happens, it happens.

But say you bring the vibe anyway, many (most?) clubs now have robes with pockets available. If it is a small bullet vibe-in the pocket. If just towels are available then I guess you would need a small leather bag or something. I myself have an FKK kit I cary in my backpack and leave in the locker. I carry in it condoms,a tooth brush, toothpaste, some floss, a bit of gel (lube). a couple of rubber gloves (for playing doctor;-)) and some aspirin. Most of this stuff (the sex stuff)the girls have but I also like to know that I have it available to me. But as I say I do not carry it around just have it in my locker.

As for keeping the towel on-just wrap it and cinch it. If it falls off no one cares, just put it on again. It is an FKK after all and if you walked around butt naked what is anyone really going to say? Except maybe in the dining room-that's a bit weird.

AM