Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2254929]This is a live report from Soi Cowboy and there is no sign of any Pap working at either DollHouse or Cowboy 2. Either she has already become jaded or changed her name. I asked around both bars by talking with the Momasons. Anyways, this topic is getting old now so can we get back to posting some reports? I've just entered Suzie Wongs and the girls are topless. Furthermore, , the soi is full of ladies as the bars are lacking customers now. Even Baccara has a huge selection and it is almost 10 PM now. Pap is dead lol.[/QUOTE]I swear Bkkdog, I was on Soi Cowboy myself last night around 9 PM and did the same thing; had a drink in both Cowboy 2 and The Dollhouse and asked the mamasan if there was a girl named Pap in them. Got the same negative replies as you did. I also did not see any girls in either bar that fit her description in case the name was not exactly right. I saw no girls in either bar who was as young looking as mentioned or whose butt would fit in a man's hand. Maybe the late, great Wilt Chamberlain could do it with 1-2 of them. I suppose she could "pap up" in another bar since the poster wasn't 100% positive he met her in one of those bars. But I wasn't so interested that I pursued it further.

And, like you said, the whole soi looked quite overwhelmed with girls and lacking in customers. The non barfinable scammer Coyotes standing outside practically every bar almost seemed desperate enough to change their wayward career choice and become available for barfine. Sadly, the only two I was inspired by enough to ask smiled broadly, sweetly and said "no". LOL.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2255078]Handsome and well hung too, according to the ladies.[/QUOTE]Those girls tell me the same thing about every other guy who walks in the bar!

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2254929]This is a live report from Soi Cowboy and there is no sign of any Pap working at either DollHouse or Cowboy 2. Either she has already become jaded or changed her name. I asked around both bars by talking with the Momasons. Anyways, this topic is getting old now so can we get back to posting some reports? I've just entered Suzie Wongs and the girls are topless. Furthermore, , the soi is full of ladies as the bars are lacking customers now. Even Baccara has a huge selection and it is almost 10 PM now. Pap is dead lol.[/QUOTE]I unfortunately don't have any additional trips planned anytime soon, so no new reports from me for while. And not sure I have much interest in doing any future reports here either. Been away from the ISG for 10 years, and can certainly just lurk and sponge up info without contributing anything in the future.

I do have great memories of my Mid November trip to Phuket and Bangkok, including my session with Pap. Sorry you did not find her. It was one of the greatest sessions of my life. And what everyone now wants to believe / claim while sitting infront of their phone / computer has no bearing on what I actually got to experience that thurday nght in room 2501 of the Pullman hotel.

As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date.

If folks get bored here, I suppose one could go to the Phuket thread and start trashing the long report I posted about my fun filled week there.

On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24. That info should be mandatory for any guy wanting to seriously upgrade the quality of his mongering experiences. I did the same type of things he discusses, both in my 2004-08 trips to Brazil and the carribean, and again on this just completed trip. And I got lots of great experiences to remember from all of those various trips as a result of following those types of suggestions. My go to mantra, when mongering, is the second part of the old saying "treat a lady like a working girl, and treat a working girl like a lady. ".

Again, I wish everyone the best of luck in their future mongering efforts. - Elmo.

[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2255097]If a poster bothers you just add them to your ignore list.[/QUOTE]Good advice. I hope you follow it too.

BKKDog are you paying attention?

[QUOTE=Elmo;2255183]I unfortunately don't have any additional trips planned anytime soon, so no new reports from me for while. And not sure I have much interest in doing any future reports here either. Been away from the ISG for 10 years, and can certainly just lurk and sponge up info without contributing anything in the future.

I do have great memories of my Mid November trip to Phuket and Bangkok, including my session with Pap. Sorry you did not find her. It was one of the greatest sessions of my life. And what everyone now wants to believe / claim while sitting infront of their phone / computer has no bearing on what I actually got to experience that thurday nght in room 2501 of the Pullman hotel.

As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date.

If folks get bored here, I suppose one could go to the Phuket thread and start trashing the long report I posted about my fun filled week there.

On a more positive note, I again urge folks to read, and actually follow, the great suggestions that BKK Dog posted back on Nov 24. That info should be mandatory for any guy wanting to seriously upgrade the quality of his mongering experiences. I did the same type of things he discusses, both in my 2004-08 trips to Brazil and the carribean, and again on this just completed trip. And I got lots of great experiences to remember from all of those various trips as a result of following those types of suggestions. My go to mantra, when mongering, is the second part of the old saying "treat a lady like a working girl, and treat a working girl like a lady. ".

Again, I wish everyone the best of luck in their future mongering efforts. - Elmo.[/QUOTE]Don't sweat it and don't be stopped by others. I was disappointed I could not find her last night. I was hoping for the same experience as you. However, I was expecting to pay a bar fine in the bar and her fee after the deed. I'm still convinced as she was a newbie that she completely forgot or even didn't know about what she should charge. I don't think you are a liar and never insinuated that. Thanks again for the report and I also enjoyed reading your Phuket one too.

I just wasn't feeling Soi Cowboy last night and figured if I went to Nana, it would just be the same thing. Then I remember chatting with a young girl on Thai Friendly who worked at a small bar on Soi 7/1. I went to check it out. As you walk down the Soi on your right hand side you will see 2 massage shops, just around a short bend in the Soi. Next will be 2 small bars. I spotted this cute as seen in my photos below. Turns out she was only 2 days in the business. I spoke with her in my broken Thai and her friend / co-worker translated what she didn't understand. To make a long story short, 2,500 in drinks for me and the two girls, flirting, joking and making future plans to go clubbing together at levels. A great night at a little hole in the wall on Soi 7. 1 ended with be barfining her for 500 Baht and 2,500 LT. A real true GFE in the sense of everything including my finishing inside.

The photo of her last night in the bar is tje one with her wearing my sun glasses and the other 2 are taken from her line. I love Bangkok!

[QUOTE=Elmo;2254882]
In all honesty, I do feel sorry for Pap. She struck me as such a sweet naive gal and so fun. But I can just see her in 2-3 years, after having been with hundreds of guys, turning into a jaded bar hag. And that makes me feel sad for her.
.[/QUOTE]Elmo, I am sure you are a nice guy so you should feel sorry that you might have accidentally stiffed her, this poor innocent newbie. You might have been her first customer ever.

You could go back and give her a nice big tip, to make amends. Or ask what happened at least and apologise if you did something wrong.

I still think the most likely explanation is you paid for drinks and a barfine, but did not pay the girl. I am not clear if she was too shy to ask for money, or forgot. You did write how she suddenly went off without looking back at you.

Anyway you see the danger of posting how you got something miles below the going rate (or perhaps a freebie).

The name Pap sounds just a bit unusual to me. Maybe is not quite 100% correct. Could be Piap, Pat, Pet, etc.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2254806]Don't, it's a bad idea. Condoms are designed to rub against skin, not latex. If you use 2, they will be far more likely to break. Girls who insist on that are seriously misinformed.
[/QUOTE]Condoms are also not designed to rub against a foam sponge shoved up the pussy. I have had condom breakage caused by that, not to mention the difficulty of penetration past 4 to 5 inches, and just not feeling like a proper pussy. So I always insist girls may not wear a sponge inside, even if its their period.

One Thai girl insisted she always put a sponge in, and would not stop, so I simply did not book her any more. She originally did not use one in truth. My fingers are always long enough to find it, and obviously shorter than a dick.

I like 7/1. You can sit there, sip a beer, and watch guys run the gauntlet (girl massage, ladyboy massage, Chrome, Wood), U-turn, and run the gauntlet again.

[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2254674]Someone is hurt again. And asking harmless questions again. This is fun.
[/QUOTE]I am sorry if someone feels hurt. It is not my intention. I merely point out some inconsistencies that don't add up.

We don't want everyone to think that girls are going to give freebies or close to it. I think the girl forgot to request money or was too shy too. She probably had never had to do it before. Elmo probably made some mistakes by miss-communication.

Does surprise me he did not think to pay her any more than that, however long absence from Thailand and failing to RTFF.

I have to admit when I returned to bar scene in early 2000's I had little clue what the going rate was, having been away too long. I did not know if was over paying or not. That was before joining the ISG.

I do advise people to be a bit more vague about what they paid, to avoid arguments, and the price police.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2255258]I just wasn't feeling Soi Cowboy last night and figured if I went to Nana, it would just be the same thing. Then I remember chatting with a young girl on Thai Friendly who worked at a small bar on Soi 7/1. I went to check it out. As you walk down the Soi on your right hand side you will see 2 massage shops, just around a short bend in the Soi. Next will be 2 small bars. I spotted this cute as seen in my photos below. Turns out she was only 2 days in the business. I spoke with her in my broken Thai and her friend / co-worker translated what she didn't understand. To make a long story short, 2,500 in drinks for me and the two girls, flirting, joking and making future plans to go clubbing together at levels. A great night at a little hole in the wall on Soi 7. 1 ended with be barfining her for 500 Baht and 2,500 LT. A real true GFE in the sense of everything including my finishing inside.

The photo of her last night in the bar is tje one with her wearing my sun glasses and the other 2 are taken from her line. I love Bangkok![/QUOTE]She is cute and seems to have a great attitude! Looks even better in the more casual pic than in the carefully posed ones, which is a plus.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2255325]I am sorry if someone feels hurt. It is not my intention. I merely point out some inconsistencies that don't add up.

We don't want everyone to think that girls are going to give freebies or close to it. I think the girl forgot to request money or was too shy too. She probably had never had to do it before. Elmo probably made some mistakes by miss-communication.

Does surprise me he did not think to pay her any more than that, however long absence from Thailand and failing to RTFF.
[/QUOTE]How would you account for the mamasan seeming to know Pap and her usual great service and response from customers so well? That also does not jibe with the unknowing newbie girl scenario. Do you suppose the mamasan was just bullshitting how "great" she was with customers, as so many of them do, and this time it accidentally turned out to be true?

Got to say as I looked at every girl in the line ups at Cowboy 2 and The Dollhouse last night I sure did not see one girl who exuded anything but a rather hardened and jaded demeanor where the possibility of them walking away and forgetting to get paid after the sex was about as likely as one tossing me her only smartphone and saying "You can keep it, I'm bored with it."

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2254458]Anyways, enough about this topic as I'm afraid it will bring out the safe sex police. They have been in hiding for a while and I don't wish for them to come out.[/QUOTE]555.

Thanks for that, and seems you have either got quite lucky, or you have chosen the right girls to do it with some how. I do believe freelance or non hooker girls would more risky, (because probably BB with everyone). Girls that get tested regularly should be less risky (but how to know who they are ha ha). I honestly expected that regular bare backers would catch something more often, like my buddy who was Gonner recipient very quick and lively in his first few days here. I got burned twice although well over 15 years ago, and I was not a habitual BBFS person. I do recall specifically declining to take BBFS with a low class Nana girl who specifically offered since I reckon she did it with everyone, and I had got a GF at the time.

Mostly girls never offer me, since I always have my own special condoms.

I do know one of my regular girls gets tested fairly often (and me too) as is paranoid about STDs and particularly HIV.

Unfortunately habitual BBFS hookers are at a significant risk to catch HIV eventually (if enough guys times years), and I have heard of 1 or 2 cases, e. G. A young very pretty Soapy girl (at least she was young in 1991 so probably 25+ years of barebacking mainly Thai men. I only ever did her close friend and yes I was also allowed BBFS in 1991 as she claimed I needed that to stay hard properly for a good long fuck. Ha ha pre Viagra times). I also hear in the Thai village about children who lost both their parents to HIV. Every village has these cases. Not clear with these stories if any relationship to drug taking, homosexuals or bi-sexuals (or ladyboys) but wives could easily catch it from the husband. Fortunately it is on the decline.

With CIP girls, it does concern me about the possibility of the girls getting pregnant accidentally even if they supposedly take the pill or get injections. So I doubt I would ever be asking for CIP. Perhaps some girls will know their cycle and when they are supposedly safe. However many are poorly educated about this and about STDs.

Yes I love BBFS naturally, it is just something for me to way up whether I could risk it with more than 1 or 2 well known girls. CIM is a good fallback for me, when available and having any cum difficulties. For me it is up to everyone to consider for themselves how to have fun, and what risks are acceptably low. Biggest risks for me are dick scared girls and girls that are just not that into old Farangs, and also girls that are just not appealing enough once they get naked.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2255332]How would you account for the mamasan seeming to know Pap and her usual great service and response from customers so well? That also does not jibe with the unknowing newbie girl scenario. Do you suppose the mamasan was just bullshitting how "great" she was with customers, as so many of them do, and this time it accidentally turned out to be true?
[/QUOTE]Now now! Mamasans never tell any bullshit. I am giving Elmo the benefit of the doubt that he just was naïve and fucked up badly accidentally. If any part of the story is true she must have been a newbie to give such a great full 2 hours. Maybe the 3 days on the job is possible. Probably just had the birthday that allowed her to start work.

Looks who knows? Its all just speculation but we nearly all agree he must have failed to pay any more than the drinks and BF. Hard to see the point in making up such a story for a guy on his first trip here for such a long time.

Is there any point to making up stories and bragging about how cheap you got it? Not for most of us. Maybe we have the odd special exception, but I doubt Elmo is that. So many of my reports, I paid a lot more and got a lot less, because I chose the wrong girl, or sometimes got lucky and had the odd very lovey dovey kissy kissy girl, who liked sex a lot.

I am almost equally shocked that BKK Dog got a LT for 2500. Not quite. She must have really liked him a lot, although I don't typically go to these cheaper venues. I was shocked that she was so good looking for that price though.

[QUOTE=Elmo;2255183]Snip. As I mentioned, I can give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was. But see no reason to do so now. Nor will I post any of my pics of her. I am so glad I decided to hold off on posting any pics, given folks' responses to date. Snip.[/QUOTE]I think his refusal to "give a specific detail about the bar that would allow an experienced BKK monger to identify which exact club it was" says all we need to know about his story. If he wants to be believed, let him PM Bkkdog or Eih Toooms, for example, since they tried to find Pap, with the detail so they can verify her existence and confirm what he posted. Otherwise, his post is no more than a Penthouse Forum tale.