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[QUOTE=WindAngel;2255648]If my memory serves me correctly, MonkeyPow convers most of it in his "game plan" before. I just want to say this, be careful when you are generous with a girl, half of the time she will take advantage of you without giving you much in return.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2253088]Number 2, be generous. You can be generous with the ladies without being a push over. Buy lady drinks for her and a select few of her friends. Tip small amounts but do it consistently. This goes a long way. Face is very important in Thai culture. These girls become proud if they bring a good customer into the bar or massage shop. If your actions give the lady good face in front of their peers, they will reward you in the bedroom. Don't be the Keneow (stingy) customer. In the massage shop, give a big tip once and while. You will be talked about amongst the ladies. The next time you go in, your chosen lady will most likely know who you are and go the extra mile to make you happy. I love the girls who when you ask how much, they say up to you. Does anyone know why they say that? It is because you have done all the right things up to that point and they feel comfortable and secure with you to go with the flow. These girls will never ask you how much you will pay and are happy receiving a fair amount the next morning or after your session. Once, during a night of partying at Sharks in Soi Cowboy, I spent 800 Baht on 4 large pizzas for the staff and girls in the bar. Needless to say, I had a complete and 100% genuine GFE from my lady that night. Pure BBFS, CIP, CIM, and multiple pops. No mention of a condom whatsoever. On another occasion I took the girl LT from a Go Go bar to Above Eleven roof top bar. I only spent 1,500 baht on a few cocktails. Back in my room, she commented on how I was such a gentlemen and took care of her very well. Needless to say, she fucked my brains out in the room BB and let me cum in her pussy. I have a really hot 22 year old Vietnamese girl I see often. I posted about her already on ISG in the foreign working girls thread. She has to be one of the hottest Asian girls I have ever been with. More about her later but my generosity and politeness paid off in the end.
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I dont know what MPs success rate is at getting girls to do what he wants. He mostly talks about how his game is number 1 and he gets to be with the top rated girls in the bars. But his “Game Plan” as you so call it, in my opinion, will get you the top rated girls but it wont get you what you want in the bedroom on a consistent basis. Show me a punter who can get the top rated girls and get them to do everything that he wants in the bedroom such as BBFS, CIP, CIM and so on and then I will listen to him. I am 80% of my way there but haven't reached that 100% success rate yet but I am having fun trying and getting what I want most of the time.

About you, I do know that you didnt read my post. Without being a pushover is the key word in my post. If you follow this advice, you will be far more sussessful than not. I would say that I have an 80% + success rate on getting what I want by following my methods. Its not full proof but what you are saying is such common sense. Of course if you are too generous and overly stupid , there is a chance you will be taken advantage of. Keep your whits about you and dont be a pushover. Know when to say no but do it politely and show the girl some respect when doing it so she does not lose face in front of her piers and the other staff and ladies.

How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2255870]How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing...[/QUOTE]I like your topics and you explain things so well!

Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2255870]Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.[/QUOTE]"Paak Waan Mak-Maak 555" (Such sweet bullshit). I think some of them are smart enough to see through your ploy, but it is immaterial since avoids the hard angry negative. Thais like a bit of sweet bullshit.

Girls who work "well" are trying to get customers to buy drinks for mamasan, their friends without a customer, the waitress, the manager, etc. We can't look after them all, unless we have far too much money.

These days, I just tell the girl, I buy drinks for my favourite person (s) which could be 1 or 2 girls, and if she has a friend (of no interest to me), then she can buy her friend a drink or give away her own drink commission (some do), but I have no reason to do so. I can't support the entire bar, I won't be ringing the bell. These girls know me and know I won't be so stingy when comes to pay for the sex. They get paid very fair even with bonus on occasion of having to work extra hard for my cum.

Girls get rewarded for being very useful to me, not for being a nuisance hanging around. We can't afford to set a precedent by rewarding undesirable behaviour. When would it end?

We can't afford to be too generous before we see the girl doing very well for us. This means if intending to BF, better make sure she wants to go early on, rather than getting bad news after several drinks gone.

So I agree with rewarding girls generously based on what they deliver. If we rip them off, there is little chance of a next time seeing the girl in a good mood. If the girl was crappy, then there clearly won't be a next time anyway. Guys regular in a bar will get a reputation for being stingy or generous or balanced in between. Their is definitely plenty of gossip. Even girls never fucked will have a fair idea. Mamasans will know too. Gossip may even extend to was the guy a good or lousy fuck, although maybe some girls are too shy to get into that. Does he fuck hard or too long, etc. Some girls heard exaggerated stories about me and were a bit scared or worried, later admitting to be surprised I was not like what she was expecting. Much nicer than expected of course.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2255870]How to say "no" to your chosen lady in the bar can be a tricky thing. If you say no too often, she will think you are a cheap charlie. On the other hand, if you say yes to every request, you will be seen as the naive tourist. What I do is quite simple. Picture this: your sitting with your lady in the bar happily drinking, fondling, caressing and then she asks you to buy a drink for her friend or the Moma son. You cringe under your breath thinking not again. Then she asks you to buy another drink for a different Moma Son. When is it all going to end you think. Here's what I do. I comply the first 2 or 3 times. Then when it comes time for me to say no, I say this:

Teerak, (sweetie, darling, honey in English). "I don't want you to think that I like another lady. I am here for you and I want to focus all my attention on you. I would prefer to buy drinks for you only from now on. I'm here to support you and not another lady". After saying this to a girl, I have never had a negative response. After that, I bar fine her, order her another LD and then get the hell out of the bar. That way the LDs stop but in her mind, she has snagged a good customer. Back in the room, I get what I want most of the time and pay a fair price.[/QUOTE]For me it's not complicated at all. I have absolutely no problem telling girls no, even my regular girls. I just tell the girl I don't buy drinks for mamasans and her sisters. I tell her be careful who she introduces me to because if I do buy another girl a drink that likely means I like the other girl more than her. She comes to a quick conclusion that introducing me to new girls may mean no drinks for her so that 'buy my sister a drink crap' ends pretty quickly.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2255921]Just wanted to say that I use another approach that has worked well for me over the years. I typically tip the girl at the end of the session. So, when I am in the club, thinking about barfining a girl, as the requests for drinks start raining, I tell my girl that whatever additional drinks I pay will have to come from her tip.[/QUOTE]

Agree. If the girl knows she is even getting a small 100 or 200 baht tip after she sits with you she is less inclined to order another drink. I have tipped girls 500 and 1000 baht in the bar before if I am there most of the night. One gogo girl even starting crying after the tip. Not because of the money but because it showed her I really liked her and no one ever gave her a 1000 baht tip in the bar for no real reason before. Worked out for me in the long run as I got many free dates with her after that. Had to eventually break her heart when I told her I didn't want to be her boyfriend and she saw me liking another girl at the same bar more. The new girl is my current #1 gogo girl and imo no one is even close.

Am I the only one who has walked out after agreeing to a hotel session because the girl pushed too hard for tips and drinks for other girls, mamasans, and waitresses?

The total amount of money involved probably isn't much, but I hate feeling like an ATM.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2255701]I doubt a new girl 2 days in the business that speaks very little English would know where to find our forum. Thanks for coming out though.[/QUOTE]I agree. However the other more experienced girls in the bar might know this forum.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2256036]I agree. However the other more experienced girls in the bar might know this forum.[/QUOTE]Ok we get it. You are one of those members who does not like when others post photos of the girls. I don't care. Sorry to say. It's your preference.

[QUOTE=HorseTrader;2255983]Am I the only one who has walked out after agreeing to a hotel session because the girl pushed too hard for tips and drinks for other girls, mamasans, and waitresses?

The total amount of money involved probably isn't much, but I hate feeling like an ATM.[/QUOTE]No, you're not the only one.

I took only one girl out of a bar in soi Cowboy and it was a girl from Suzie Wong. I went to see her many times in a week but the money I was spending on her was getting higher each time. She charged me only 2000 baht for a solid ST and 700 BF but the last bill was around 4400 baht just because of these ladydrinks (for her and waitresses). It was the only reason I stooped going there as I could find other better deals elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2256097]Ok we get it. You are one of those members who does not like when others post photos of the girls. I don't care. Sorry to say. It's your preference.[/QUOTE]Bkkdog, I am fine with seeing photos of the girls. But here is a scenario that is not far fetched at all in my experience from times when I used to just give names and locations of girls on boards like these, not even posting photos. There are the occasional White Knights lurking on these boards who may decide it is their mission to inform a girl they recognize, have been with before, want to warn she has been reported to engage in BBFS on the internet and so on. That latter part was a particular issue with me since I was always quite upfront on boards like these about that level of service being key to any positive review I would give a girl other than when it was all about a BJ.

Add to which some of us from time to time find ourselves the target of a weird grudge fixation by someone for reasons that often aren't even related to the general topic at hand.

Not saying that is what happened this time with your Soi 7/1 girl. I would still go with the snoopy boyfriend explanation. However, it has happened with me before and could quite likely happen again within 2-3 hours of me naming names and locations (never mind photos) that some dude with a weird grudge against me and/or against my predeliction for BBFS or a White Knight who also happened to have barfined or knew that girl would be on her phone or Line to tell her about it asap.

Again, not saying that is what happened this time. But the possibility that someone else here has met and knows a girl working in any bar well enough to already have contact info for her and his own reason to send her an interesting "message" about what was said about her online is not as farfetched as I wish it were.

[QUOTE=Franciscass;2255756]Getting a beer 5 lady drinks and paying the bar fine for 1250 , not at the larger popular go gos but just maybe possible at one of the smaller bars. Bar fine 500, lady drinks 120 and a beer for 150 adds up to 1250. Also possible cashier made a mistake.[/QUOTE]As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.

Your right as I did post in wrong thread. Probably because I will be staying in Bangkok and making sporadic trips to Pattaya.

No wonder why I couldn't find any responses to my inquiry in the Pattaya thread LOL. As far as the ladies go, I was not terribly impressed by the photos on their website but I like the DFK for price of a LD. Will check out your reviews of gclubs in the Pattaya thread.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2255755]You're posting this in the wrong thread but Camel Toe is not new or even close to new. I have been many times as it is part of my Pattaya G club route. Don't expect top Pattaya gogo quality girls. Don't even expect top Soi 6 girls. Most girls are older. A couple may be ok in their late 20's. Girls are friendly here. Yes, they play music from before I was born. Drinks are cheap. DFK and sometimes HJ after you buy a girl a lady drink which doesn't happen often for me. There are much better G clubs in Pattaya. You can read some of my posts there I won't repeat here since this is the Bangkok thread.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2256252]As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.[/QUOTE]If that is how it went down 1250 for drinks only could be at any bar on the strip.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2256252]As I understood Elmo's report, the 1250 baht was only for the drinks and the server's tip. He gave an additional 1000 baht directly to the girl before she changed into her street clothes to leave with him, which she presumably then gave to the mamasan to cover the barfine. That came to 2250 baht total. There was no barfine in the separate 1250 baht drink (and server tip) bill.[/QUOTE]Or is it nauseum ad tedium? Anyway dude, you are the master of it big-time! I myself have a more plausible theory: Elmo was high AF from some lethal shit that he copped in a Rocky Mountain high dispensary and stashed in his boxers for the flight over to LOS. That's why he can't remember notting about that night except that he was able to empty his Rocky Mountain oysters into a delectable bar girl! Case closed!

[QUOTE=Bigstud;2256354]Or is it nauseum ad tedium? Anyway dude, you are the master of it big-time! I myself have a more plausible theory: Elmo was high AF from some lethal shit that he copped in a Rocky Mountain high dispensary and stashed in his boxers for the flight over to LOS. That's why he can't remember notting about that night except that he was able to empty his Rocky Mountain oysters into a delectable bar girl! Case closed!! 555.[/QUOTE]LOL. So you would rather at least two other posters puzzle over how on earth Elmo or anyone else could have paid for about 5 Lady Drinks, his drink AND a Soi Cowboy go-go barfine with just 1250 baht than have someone simply point out they apparently missed the part about Elmo paying the girl 1000 baht separately? I didn't have to piece that together by connecting imaginary dots. Elmo mentioned that in at least two different posts.

Whenever we need more support and encouragement for misinformation, we'll be sure to call on you to post again.