American Politics

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2593493]In 2020 the USA imported the least amount of oil since 1991 as per government records below. USA was a net exporter. USA refineries all use different grades of crude oil to make different products. Some grades of crude USA has to much of. Some grades of crude like heavy oil USA needs to import it. Mostly from Canada but Biden screwed that up so now we are getting it from Russia. USA imports crude and refines it and exports the finished product. USA was no longer dependent on foreign oil as of December 31, 2020. 8 months later Biden is begging Russia and OPEC to produce more oil. When USA gets dependent on foreign oil prices go up. The more oil USA produces the prices go down. Hence we have high gas prices in 2021 that we didn't have in 2019 and 2020. Not rocket science but most of you won't understand this. It is the same with any commodity. Supply and demand. Biden energy policy: USA loses. Russia and OPEC benefit. Trump energy policy USA benefits. Russia and OPEC lose. Big difference.

[URL]https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php[/URL][/QUOTE]Excellent forensic post. It won't have any effect on the impenetrable brainwashing of the individual you're replying to, but rest assured that many saner and smarter people will read it and take note.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2593662]P.S. Stop harassing me in my PM box. I told you that I'm on vacation, but of course your self-centeredness and insistence on being right all the time takes precedence.[/QUOTE]Haha! These leftist wackos actually PMing people who call out their BS! Careful bud, one of them will probably hire an investigator and show up at your house soon.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2593663]When cars are predominately electric there will be minimal oil imported, no reason to have a presence in the middle east, Russia will be broke and the air will be a lot cleaner to breathe and the people to thank will be Democrats.[/QUOTE]Right, because the vast amounts of electricity required to power those cars, and to make the batteries (which need to be replaced regularly) will be produced by. Rainbows and fluffy kittens.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593828]Good post, but you got one thing wrong. I'm not on here to persuade the democrat douches on this board. Their brainwashing is so deep they would probably have a brain aneurysm if they actually thought about anything. My posts are for people reading who probably never post, who just check in every now and then. It's good to let them know that the wacko leftist lunacy they see in so much of the fake media is just as wrong-headed and idiotic as they sense it is.

About Biden, we should all pray for the senile old vegetable to stay in (nominal) power for at least the next couple of years, because if Harris gets in things will become very bad for conservative heritage Americans. She is a classic product of the woke communist grievance industry, and her hatred of America and white men runs to her core. When in California, she ordered a police raid on the home of a (white male, of course) journalist whose reporting displeased her. Of course the fake news never publicized it. If she becomes president she will attempt mass gun confiscation by force; imposition of vaccine passports in grocery stores (ie you will starve to death if you don't comply); federalization of all police in the country (ie they all work directly for her). It will be a very dark time for us, in more ways than one.

The best thing would be for Biden to cling on until near the end of his illegitimate regime; maybe give out with a few months to go, so everyone can see just how terrible Harris is before the 2024 election.[/QUOTE]"because if Harris gets in things will become very bad for conservative heritage Americans. " This is the type of dog-whistle phrasing that racists use.

" If she becomes president she will attempt mass gun confiscation by force; imposition of vaccine passports in grocery stores (ie you will starve to death if you don't comply); federalization of all police in the country (ie they all work directly for her). It will be a very dark time for us, in more ways than one. "This is typical fascist misinformation. Fux news spews this vile crap nightly. [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/tucker-carlson-warns-that-america-will-be-invaded-by-millions-of-afghan-refugees[/URL].

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2593662]You truly have no credibility as you can only rehearse the same mantras over and over. That isn't debate, it's called filibuster, and you'd be stoked for it constantly, anywhere but in a monger forum. That's why you are here. We know Trump is an idiot, but you day after day shriek about Republicans causing all the "crashes" while ignoring Wilson and Truman's recessions. You mock Ike calling the 50's "atrocious," while ignoring all the gains for common people, especially those unionized and in blue collar fields. It was an age of the guy off to work with his lunch box, two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, home ownership, and situations where the wife could afford to stay home. You praise Jimmy Carter even though he left behind a recession and was booted out of office after one term in an embarrassing landslide defeat. And much of a case can be made for the Reagan years, especially seeing that he for much of the time had to deal with a Democratic Congress, which meant compromise.

Like it or not Biden has egg on his face with Afghanistan, as well his hesitancy with voting rights reform as the modern era Jim Crow nonsense digs in it's heels. That all reality for someone who wishes a balanced perspective.

P.S. Stop harassing me in my PM box. I told you that I'm on vacation, but of course your self-centeredness and insistence on being right all the time takes precedence.[/QUOTE]LOL. More easily debunked total nonsense from you on every point, especially the part about me harassing you in PMs.

Folks, beware, that loon started sending me PMs he was too much of a coward to post here and then began sending me THREE PMs at a time with the same message until I told him it would require a lot less work on his part if he just posted on the main board. Thankfully, he has not PMd me once in the past 3-4 days after I pointed that out. Good thing. I was on the verge of reporting him to the site Administrator. Lolol

Now I know even YOU know the stuff you post is total nonsense. You gave it away with that bit about me harassing you in PMs.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2593680]What is predictable is you blaming Trump for this debacle by Biden.[/QUOTE]When will George W. Bush and everyone who voted for him apologize for that predictably failed war?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2593907]LOL. More total nonsense, especially the part about me harassing you in PMs.

Folks, that loon started sending me PMs he was too much of a coward to post here and then began sending me THREE PMs at a time with the same message until I told him it would require a lot less work on his part if he just posted on the main board. Thankfully, he has not PMd me once in the past 3-4 days after I pointed that out. Lolol[/QUOTE]He's "on vacation."

Oh. Looks like Biden managed to at least get an agreement from the Taliban to make a positive public statement regarding women's rights. Much more thanTrump got. Trump was only concerned about them please not shooting at us when we fled the country under his "leadership."

[B]Taliban says women can be very active in society. A watching world is skeptical.[/B]
[URL]https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-08-17/kabul-taliban-starts-governing-declares-amnesty[/URL]

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2593806]Sooooo, what you are saying is that trump didn't negotiate an American withdrawal from Afghanistan?[/QUOTE]Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2593908]When will George W. Bush and everyone who voted for him apologize for that predictably failed war?[/QUOTE]The minute you Democratic and all who voted for him apologize for Clinton not getting rid of Bin Laden. Two can play the partisan finger pointing game.

Tucker Carlson (and Laura Ingraham) don't seem to think taking care of the Afghans we left behind is really the USA's responsibility at all.

[B]Tucker Carlson Slams U.S. Housing Afghanistan Refugees: 'First We Invade, Then We Are Invaded'[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-slams-us-housing-afghanistan-refugees-first-we-invade-then-we-are-invaded-1619954[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2593913]Oh. Looks like Biden managed to at least get an agreement from the Taliban to make a positive public statement regarding women's rights. Much more thanTrump got. Trump was only concerned about them please not shooting at us when we fled the country under his "leadership."

[B]Taliban says women can be very active in society. A watching world is skeptical.[/B]
[URL]https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2021-08-17/kabul-taliban-starts-governing-declares-amnesty[/URL][/QUOTE]Biden failed to mention Taliban is giving women's rights according to Islam Law. Which means they don't get any rights. Biden begging to Taliban just shows weakness. Biden showed the world that USA leadership is weak and can be taken advantage of. Taliban first to do it. Took them 3 or 4 days. Terrorists are in hog heaven with Biden presidency. They can just walk into USA from Mexico and we have another 9-11. There is a reason Taliban didn't try taking over all of Afghanistan when Trump cut troops to 2500 because Trump would have retaliated. They waited for a weak spineless president that begs Taliban to let US citizens leave.

Democrats and Republicans both acknowledge this.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2593662]You truly have no credibility as you can only rehearse the same mantras over and over. That isn't debate, it's called filibuster, and you'd be stoked for it constantly, anywhere but in a monger forum. That's why you are here. We know Trump is an idiot, but you day after day shriek about Republicans causing all the "crashes" while ignoring Wilson and Truman's recessions. You mock Ike calling the 50's "atrocious," while ignoring all the gains for common people, especially those unionized and in blue collar fields. It was an age of the guy off to work with his lunch box, two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, home ownership, and situations where the wife could afford to stay home. You praise Jimmy Carter even though he left behind a recession and was booted out of office after one term in an embarrassing landslide defeat. And much of a case can be made for the Reagan years, especially seeing that he for much of the time had to deal with a Democratic Congress, which meant compromise.

Like it or not Biden has egg on his face with Afghanistan, as well his hesitancy with voting rights reform as the modern era Jim Crow nonsense digs in it's heels. That all reality for someone who wishes a balanced perspective.

P.S. Stop harassing me in my PM box. I told you that I'm on vacation, but of course your self-centeredness and insistence on being right all the time takes precedence.[/QUOTE]Just wondering where you got that Eisenhower was so great for jobs creation of any kind for any demographic. You have repeated it a few times here and in your harassing PMs to me. BTW, I never said "the 1950's were atricious." I said Eisenhower's economy was atrocious. Hey, I like roast beef sandwiches and even ate a few during the Eisenhower years. But then, I ate a few during every president's term since Ike as well.

And I did not post that "atrocious" message here. I wrote it in a PM reply to your PM asking me what I had against Eisenhower's economy. LOL. You know, the reply you sent several harassing PMs about "not reading" it? Clearly a lie.

Anyway, back to Repub potus economies vs Dem potus economies from FDR/Truman to Biden, the link below is an easy to read general overview of the topic including various important factors like GPD growth, Jobs Creation, Recessions, Deficits, etc.

Too bad they didn't go back a full 100 years, the time frame I like to use for these comparisons (Wilson was gone by then). Including Hoover and the Repubs before him after 1921. That would have made the already crap results for Repubs vs Dems ever so much worse and clearer to see why, because those pre FDR Repubs' economic philosophy and agenda is the template for what Repubs have loved to do over and over again ever since. You know, the policies that produced, presided over and exacerbated The Great Repub Crash and Depression of the late 1920s/early 1930s.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._economic_performance_under_Democratic_and_Republican_presidents[/URL]

As you can see, Eisenhower racked up three Recessions in just 8 years and earned one of the lowest ratings for average annual Jobs Creatiion for any president since such data is available, WAY down there with Trump, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush. They don't show data for roast beef sandwiches though.

Oh, and Carter's rating on that critical factor is among the TOP 3-4 of the past 100 years, all Democrats, of course, with Biden already rating VERY highly on that factor. Truman is rated highly as well despite his brief and relatively insignificant post-WWII recession while paying off those WWII debts.

As usual, Obama's historically unprecedented positive jobs creation record is unfairly marred by the timing of G.W. Bush's colossal job destruction Niagara Falls that was just cresting for its biggest crash as Obama took the Oath of Office in January 2009.

But even with that unfairness in the mix Obama's rating surpasses that of Trump, the Bushes and Eisenhower. It goes without saying it would have beat the hell out of Hoover's too, if they had gone back a full 100 years to show a remarkably consistent pattern of Repub economic under performance and disaster vs Dem economic recovery, growth and expansion right up to this very day as I like to do whenever the topic is brought up by others as you did here and in your PMs to me.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2593934]Tucker Carlson (and Laura Ingraham) don't seem to think taking care of the Afghans we left behind is really the USA's responsibility at all.

[B]Tucker Carlson Slams U.S. Housing Afghanistan Refugees: 'First We Invade, Then We Are Invaded'[/B]
[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/tucker-carlson-slams-us-housing-afghanistan-refugees-first-we-invade-then-we-are-invaded-1619954[/URL][/QUOTE]We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2593981]Just wondering where you got that Eisenhower was so great for jobs creation of any kind for any demographic. You have repeated it a few times here and in your harassing PMs to me. BTW, I never said "the 1950's were atricious." I said Eisenhower's economy was atrocious. Hey, I like roast beef sandwiches and even ate a few during the Eisenhower years. But then, I ate a few during every president's term since Ike as well.

And I did not post that "atrocious" message here. I wrote it in a PM reply to your PM asking me what I had against Eisenhower's economy. LOL. You know, the reply you sent several harassing PMs about "not reading" it? Clearly a lie.

Anyway, back to Repub potus economies vs Dem potus economies from FDR/Truman to Biden, the link below is an easy to read general overview of the topic including various important factors like GPD growth, Jobs Creation, Recessions, Deficits, etc..[/QUOTE]The fascists who reply will first deride wikipedia. But don't post any other sources about the economies of each President (even though those sources exist) because the fascists will yell fake news (even though they haven't read the sources. That's because they didn't hear it on their one-true-news-source: Fux "News".