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[QUOTE=Gfefan;2787515]Perhaps biased view here.
US SA is not great. Too many too weed out. More money-money-money minded, transactional, sense of entitled women here than in Europe. Not saying all those girls are that way but just the frequency of those entitled sluts in US is annoying.
I had much much better life in EU. Why the F did I move![/QUOTE]Totally. I game hard in Europe. Every day stacked with a new girl. In LA, nada. It's hard to close deals.
[QUOTE=TheCane;2786038]I'll never give one of those "soft-core" SA tutes (or any kind of tute) a monthly "allowance". It's either pay-per-meet or gets to steppin'! LOL! Pay an allowance upfront and get dissed and dumped afterwards? I don't think so! I'm not desperate. No, it's more like to my favor. That would be "pump and dump" (mutual is fine) on a PPM basis exclusively. That way, we both have a shot at benefiting from the bargain. And if we both want to strike up a subsequent one fine. And if not, then that's fine too. But I'm not about to "keep" one of these unfaithful, money grubbing hoors. And in my opinion that's exactly what the overwhelming majority of them are too. P4 P (essentially what PPM is) rules![/QUOTE]Yep, stick with the PPM in the states. Maybe, after several months and no there is no drama or substance abuse.
I left Medellin about 3 weeks ago, with two sugar babies with allowances, one for her entire expenses and another just for her rent. This allowance model seems to be what the girls here want, namely stability and the opportunity for a better life. The girl I give a full allowance to used it to move to a new apartment, closer to her university and out of her grandparents' house. I love it because she responds to my messages immediately and is available to talk whenever, and similarly available to travel. The monthly cost for a 23 year old former beauty pageant contestant? About $1400.
I've been in São Paulo for about 3 weeks, and have found a super fit 25 year old who just moved to the city from the Northeast of Brazil 2 weeks ago. As much as I enjoy my Colombianas, the optics on the Brazilians are incredible and girls from the north of the country are very affectionate. (The southerners seem to be more into rougher sex, which is not my thing, almost like a continuum with Buenos Aires being the roughest end of that spectrum.) Great optics and high affection is a deadly combo for me, so I'll likely provide her either with rent or a full allowance to keep her locked down for when I'm back to Brazil from Medellin in 4 weeks.
Regarding the earlier sugar daddy vs sugar bro discussion, I'm in my mid 30's, and I know I'll have too much money to spend before I die if I keep working so I'd rather start spending it now on girls who know how to return the affection back. I'm not into fancy apartments, clothes, cars or other luxury goods. When I die, I genuinely think I'll be happy I spent my money helping others I care about live better lives.
One nagging thought is whether I'd like Rio more than São Paulo, because it should be more relaxed. Found some girls with decent optics there so I think I'll have to confirm my theory that they will be on the more affectionate end of the spectrum. I think I'll have to at least spend 1 long weekend there on my trip back to Brazil.
[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2788948]Regarding the earlier sugar daddy vs sugar bro discussion, I'm in my mid 30's, and I know I'll have too much money to spend before I die if I keep working so I'd rather start spending it now on girls who know how to return the affection back. I'm not into fancy apartments, clothes, cars or other luxury goods. When I die, I genuinely think I'll be happy I spent my money helping others I care about live better lives.[/QUOTE]I hope it's all good while it all lasts bro. You sound like a buddy of mine. I Ted Ferguson, being of sound mind and body, spent every last penny I had! LOL!
[QUOTE=TedFerguson;2788948]I left Medellin about 3 weeks ago, with two sugar babies with allowances, one for her entire expenses and another just for her rent. This allowance model seems to be what the girls here want, namely stability and the opportunity for a better life. The girl I give a full allowance to used it to move to a new apartment, closer to her university and out of her grandparents' house. I love it because she responds to my messages immediately and is available to talk whenever, and similarly available to travel. The monthly cost for a 23 year old former beauty pageant contestant? About $1400.
I've been in So Paulo for about 3 weeks, and have found a super fit 25 year old who just moved to the city from the Northeast of Brazil 2 weeks ago. As much as I enjoy my Colombianas, the optics on the Brazilians are incredible and girls from the north of the country are very affectionate. (The southerners seem to be more into rougher sex, which is not my thing, almost like a continuum with Buenos Aires being the roughest end of that spectrum.) Great optics and high affection is a deadly combo for me, so I'll likely provide her either with rent or a full allowance to keep her locked down for when I'm back to Brazil from Medellin in 4 weeks.
Regarding the earlier sugar daddy vs sugar bro discussion, I'm in my mid 30's, and I know I'll have too much money to spend before I die if I keep working so I'd rather start spending it now on girls who know how to return the affection back. I'm not into fancy apartments, clothes, cars or other luxury goods. When I die, I genuinely think I'll be happy I spent my money helping others I care about live better lives.
One nagging thought is whether I'd like Rio more than So Paulo, because it should be more relaxed. Found some girls with decent optics there so I think I'll have to confirm my theory that they will be on the more affectionate end of the spectrum. I think I'll have to at least spend 1 long weekend there on my trip back to Brazil.[/QUOTE]I provide a similar allowance to a Thai girl. I'm going on month no. 6 now. A couple of questions:
1) Did you and the girls agree to a term, I. E. , allowance will be provided for 1 year?
2) Since endung the allowance would be a significant impact to their personal lives, how would you end their allowance?
[QUOTE=TheCane;2788949]I hope it's all good while it all lasts bro. You sound like a buddy of mine. I Ted Ferguson, being of sound mind and body, spent every last penny I had! LOL![/QUOTE]Funny you should mention that. If I can find a way to do it there are at least two girls I've been very close with on Seeking and would easily give them $10,000 upon my demise. They are just quality humans and I feel fortunate to have crossed paths with them, let alone in such an intimate way! Sorta independent of when even. Like 10 or 20 years from now. But prob tough to execute both in terms of will and staying in touch. But it says something about the quality of the girls you can find. Yes I am talking about only 4% of the girls I've dated. But still it says something I think. I'm not leaving a dime to any pro girl nor the other 96% (well another borderline one).
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2789182]Funny you should mention that. If I can find a way to do it there are at least two girls I've been very close with on Seeking and would easily give them $10,000 upon my demise. They are just quality humans and I feel fortunate to have crossed paths with them, let alone in such an intimate way! Sorta independent of when even. Like 10 or 20 years from now. But prob tough to execute both in terms of will and staying in touch. But it says something about the quality of the girls you can find. Yes I am talking about only 4% of the girls I've dated. But still it says something I think. I'm not leaving a dime to any pro girl nor the other 96% (well another borderline one).[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am tired of this. There have been a few women I saw too that were totally trustworthy. 96% is not the same as 100%.
On the borderline part, I got fooled a lot in the past. The main thing guys need to know is when they argue about something completely absurd. One borderline was convinced that her baby's autism was due to the father. When I said the cause of autism is unknown, she got mad and crazy. She screamed, "It is his fault he is autistic. What is wrong with you?" The instinct is to run from crazy which means the borderline feels even worse as you are abandoning them. What I know now is challenging borderlines on facts like what causes autism is totally wrong. When you have a woman like this, you say nothing and leave. Arguing with them works to their advantage. Their goal is to show the world they are not crazy, and you are.
And leaving is what most often makes them crazy. I had one woman, a super hot Mexican lawyer, go down to a bar late at night alone. I said I did not feel like going but she was free to go on her own. An hour later, she returns and says frantically, "You left me at the bar!" Borderlines are freaked out about abandonment. If you have a woman freak out about that, then just leave. A friend of mine said she thought the Mexican lawyer was borderline, and I realized she was right. As soon as I realized that, I axed that women from my life and never saw her again.
FWIW, I think borderlines are above average attractive and above average in bed. They also can swoon over your words and put you on a pedestal and because of all this, they can be very attractive to us men and suck us into their crazy.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2789182]Funny you should mention that. If I can find a way to do it there are at least two girls I've been very close with on Seeking and would easily give them $10,000 upon my demise. They are just quality humans and I feel fortunate to have crossed paths with them, let alone in such an intimate way! Sorta independent of when even. Like 10 or 20 years from now. But prob tough to execute both in terms of will and staying in touch. But it says something about the quality of the girls you can find. Yes I am talking about only 4% of the girls I've dated. But still it says something I think. I'm not leaving a dime to any pro girl nor the other 96% (well another borderline one).[/QUOTE]Just make sure you don't tell those quality individuals who you think should get 10 K upon your demise or they might develop some 'crazy' idea to earn it before it's due time. JK.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2789182]...Like 10 or 20 years from now. ....[/QUOTE]Something to think about, why wait?
Logged into my burner email for old time sake. Also peeked to see if SA was doing their usually % off re-subbing sales for V-Day. Unlike past years, their push instead was bonus starter pack by cloning your account into their other brand WhatsYourPrice.
Never heard of it before these emails, did some research (some).
Exact same company anyone know if they're merging the two monikers and phasing out the SA name?
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2789646]Logged into my burner email for old time sake. Also peeked to see if SA was doing their usually % off re-subbing sales for V-Day. Unlike past years, their push instead was bonus starter pack by cloning your account into their other brand WhatsYourPrice.
Never heard of it before these emails, did some research (some).
Exact same company anyone know if they're merging the two monikers and phasing out the SA name?[/QUOTE]On Valentines Day SA offered me 33% off on a 90-day premium package. I declined. They routinely offer me 20% to 25% off.
[QUOTE=CenTexCrash;2789646]Logged into my burner email for old time sake. Also peeked to see if SA was doing their usually % off re-subbing sales for V-Day. Unlike past years, their push instead was bonus starter pack by cloning your account into their other brand WhatsYourPrice.
Never heard of it before these emails, did some research (some).
Exact same company anyone know if they're merging the two monikers and phasing out the SA name?[/QUOTE]No. What's your price has been around for a while. I tried it but didn't really get very far. Seeking is way more successful so I don't see them messing w that.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2789195]Yeah, I am tired of this. There have been a few women I saw too that were totally trustworthy. 96% is not the same as 100%.
On the borderline part, I got fooled a lot in the past. The main thing guys need to know is when they argue about something completely absurd. One borderline was convinced that her baby's autism was due to the father. When I said the cause of autism is unknown, she got mad and crazy. She screamed, "It is his fault he is autistic. What is wrong with you?" The instinct is to run from crazy which means the borderline feels even worse as you are abandoning them. What I know now is challenging borderlines on facts like what causes autism is totally wrong. When you have a woman like this, you say nothing and leave. Arguing with them works to their advantage. Their goal is to show the world they are not crazy, and you are.
And leaving is what most often makes them crazy. I had one woman, a super hot Mexican lawyer, go down to a bar late at night alone. I said I did not feel like going but she was free to go on her own. An hour later, she returns and says frantically, "You left me at the bar!" Borderlines are freaked out about abandonment. If you have a woman freak out about that, then just leave. A friend of mine said she thought the Mexican lawyer was borderline, and I realized she was right. As soon as I realized that, I axed that women from my life and never saw her again.
FWIW, I think borderlines are above average attractive and above average in bed. They also can swoon over your words and put you on a pedestal and because of all this, they can be very attractive to us men and suck us into their crazy.[/QUOTE]I haven't met a woman yet who took any responsibility for their past relationships going bad. It was always the man's fault. But then I go out with them for just two weeks and see all kinds of things they do wrong to ruin a relationship and drive men away! "Borderlines" is right. I found something much better. Combining my love of international travel with tapping foreign ass abroad! Yes sir!
So my membership expired 2 days back and now suddenly I have 10+ messages from girls around me and SA wants me to Upgrade.
Why SA thinks we are stupid to Upgrade by seeing 10 messages.
Reminds me of a old flame (2013) back when I did not know SA.
Dated this American girl for three months. Above average looks, excellent in bed, gets wet within minutes of whenever I had a hardon. We even fucked on a beach (I think public sex is demeanor). All goes well.
She keeps saying she is an independent woman, wants to bring things to the table blah. Blah.
I see signs of gold digging but I go along given the amazing sex and other swooning over me (like my dusky appearance, loves my sports involvement).
I had two tickets for a concert but was traveling. Gave it to my client (relationship building).
She calls me when I was in another town, asks for tickets to go with her "friend". I say I gave it to my client. She starts yelling at me as if I hurt a child.
I quietly hang up, return to town few days later, dropped off her stuff at her front door with a note "You say you are an independent woman. You shouldn't need me to buy tickets for concerts". Boom. Another round of yelling on phone. A week later, tries to patch up but I stayed away.
Looking back, I did the right thing for myself. But, I admit, every once a while I think I should have broken up softer and kept her as a bootycall. The sex was amazing. Beach, shower, kitchen counter, parks, lake, parking lot, laundry. Name a place. We have fucked there most likely. All CIP. As she was on control. I do miss that sex but not the craziness.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2789195]Yeah, I am tired of this. There have been a few women I saw too that were totally trustworthy. 96% is not the same as 100%.
On the borderline part, I got fooled a lot in the past. The main thing guys need to know is when they argue about something completely absurd. One borderline was convinced that her baby's autism was due to the father. When I said the cause of autism is unknown, she got mad and crazy. She screamed, "It is his fault he is autistic. What is wrong with you?" The instinct is to run from crazy which means the borderline feels even worse as you are abandoning them. What I know now is challenging borderlines on facts like what causes autism is totally wrong. When you have a woman like this, you say nothing and leave. Arguing with them works to their advantage. Their goal is to show the world they are not crazy, and you are.
And leaving is what most often makes them crazy. I had one woman, a super hot Mexican lawyer, go down to a bar late at night alone. I said I did not feel like going but she was free to go on her own. An hour later, she returns and says frantically, "You left me at the bar!" Borderlines are freaked out about abandonment. If you have a woman freak out about that, then just leave. A friend of mine said she thought the Mexican lawyer was borderline, and I realized she was right. As soon as I realized that, I axed that women from my life and never saw her again.
FWIW, I think borderlines are above average attractive and above average in bed. They also can swoon over your words and put you on a pedestal and because of all this, they can be very attractive to us men and suck us into their crazy.[/QUOTE]