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[QUOTE=Blanquiceleste;2262434]Just yesterday, I was in a pub having a drink and shooting some shit with a friend. There was a Caucasian man sitting at the next table. And after a couple of beers he got up and left. We only got to know about the fact that he left without paying, when poor waiter started frantically asking other patrons about this illustrious gent.[/QUOTE]Any guy that cheap shouldn't be allowed on a plane to travel OS. Geez, a couple of beers are nothing for foreigners who clearly can afford to travel but if it comes out of the waitresses salary then it's a lot of money for them. Don't know how anyone can be that cheap.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2262451]Wow I like the 3rd last girl lying diagonally on the pillow with reddish brown hair. I would try to hang on to one that looked so natural and cute. What a smile.[/QUOTE]I lost track of her 3 months ago.

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2262592]Any guy that cheap shouldn't be allowed on a plane to travel OS. Geez, a couple of beers are nothing for foreigners who clearly can afford to travel but if it comes out of the waitresses salary then it's a lot of money for them. Don't know how anyone can be that cheap.[/QUOTE]A lady was telling me about a Japanese customer of hers that she met and asked her to dinner. She complied and he took her to an expensive Japanese resto. Drank a lot of Saki and had some expensive sushi. He pardoned him self to make a phone call and never returned. She was stuck with the bill. She said she did not have the funds to pay, so she made a deal to pay off the bill a little at a time with the manager. This is so cruel to do this to anyone. There are some real slime balls out there.

RL.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2262714]A lady was telling me about a Japanese customer of hers that she met and asked her to dinner. She complied and he took her to an expensive Japanese resto. Drank a lot of Saki and had some expensive sushi. He pardoned him self to make a phone call and never returned. She was stuck with the bill. She said she did not have the funds to pay, so she made a deal to pay off the bill a little at a time with the manager. This is so cruel to do this to anyone. There are some real slime balls out there.

RL.[/QUOTE]Every girl has a story or 3 of not being paid in the morning.

[QUOTE=BubbaBoy;2262859]Every girl has a story or 3 of not being paid in the morning.[/QUOTE]Maybe you didn't read his story. The girl was not only not paid, she was stuck with a big bill to pay.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2262714]A lady was telling me about a Japanese customer of hers that she met and asked her to dinner. She complied and he took her to an expensive Japanese resto. Drank a lot of Saki and had some expensive sushi. He pardoned him self to make a phone call and never returned. She was stuck with the bill. She said she did not have the funds to pay, so she made a deal to pay off the bill a little at a time with the manager. This is so cruel to do this to anyone. There are some real slime balls out there.

RL.[/QUOTE]A BATS girl in Jakarta was telling me that some Chinese guy took her from BATS to Golden Crown and he got a private room there. A couple of his friends were with him. She says they not only had the private room, but also ordered some bottles of alcohol. She says it was getting very late and she fell asleep in the room. When she woke up, they were all gone and she was left with an 11 million rupiah bill (about 1000 usd).

[QUOTE=Kerrstar;2262592]Geez, a couple of beers are nothing for foreigners who clearly can afford to travel but if it comes out of the waitresses salary then it's a lot of money for them. Don't know how anyone can be that cheap.[/QUOTE]Precisely. And this is in Singapore where a beer costs $15 (Sing dollars). So $30 would be roughly half a day's wages for the poor waiter. I can't see that happen, not on my watch.

[QUOTE=RobertLong;2262714]A lady was telling me about a Japanese customer of hers that she met and asked her to dinner. She complied and he took her to an expensive Japanese resto. Drank a lot of Saki and had some expensive sushi. He pardoned him self to make a phone call and never returned. She was stuck with the bill. She said she did not have the funds to pay, so she made a deal to pay off the bill a little at a time with the manager. This is so cruel to do this to anyone. There are some real slime balls out there. RL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2262904]A BATS girl in Jakarta was telling me that some Chinese guy took her from BATS to Golden Crown and he got a private room there. A couple of his friends were with him. She says they not only had the private room, but also ordered some bottles of alcohol. She says it was getting very late and she fell asleep in the room. When she woke up, they were all gone and she was left with an 11 million rupiah bill (about 1000 usd).[/QUOTE]Plenty of low lives out there. Mongers who stiff girls on payment after the deed is done are bad enough for the community. But these guys who saddle unassuming WGs or waiters in bars with bills are unpardonable.

P.S. - Smoothy how did that story end then? What did the girl do to get out alive to tell you the story?

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2261490]Just to give you guys some examples of the girls I've hooked up with on Thai Friendly, I will post some pictures of the enticing photos I have collected from my latest conquests. I don't care what anyone says, it is still a goldmine for pussy and you should sign up for premiuim and follow the advice I have given and the advise of others as well. But if you don't have premium, it is a real pain in the ass and a waste of time. These are just a handful of the girls I have been with from TF over the last few months. Dont give up. Some became part time girlfriends and some were just a one time thing.[/QUOTE]We've not always agreed, but I wholeheartedly second your endorsement of Thai Friendly. Had very satisfying results mining that site for connections. Found both obvious pros and cute office ladies seeking to augment their income. Some really nice sessions with very accommodating and part-time GFE girls.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2261490]Just to give you guys some examples of the girls I've hooked up with on Thai Friendly, I will post some pictures of the enticing photos I have collected from my latest conquests. I don't care what anyone says, it is still a goldmine for pussy and you should sign up for premiuim and follow the advice I have given and the advise of others as well. But if you don't have premium, it is a real pain in the ass and a waste of time. These are just a handful of the girls I have been with from TF over the last few months. Dont give up. Some became part time girlfriends and some were just a one time thing.[/QUOTE]

They are all super pretty and not one of them I wouldn't bar fine. But I have a certain type and wow that girl on the right in the next to last row. Wowowowow. That is the kind of face I'd pay just to look at and hopefully kiss and the rest would just be a bonus. Mad props if you spent quality time with her.

[QUOTE=JavaMan;2261259]Two drunks got into a fight over some chick. The farang got the best of it. Unfortunately, the beaten Thai was an off duty cop, he followed the couple to the hotel, and confronted the farang in the hotel's lobby. This time he was armed and shot, killed the farang. He fled, but turned himself in. Now he's looking at a long stretch in the Monkey House. The BIB response: Enforcing the 2am closing time! A local told me the Police and Military went around ordering bars to close at 2am.

[URL]https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/french-tourist-shot-dead-in-bangkok-by-off-duty-thai-cop-11024602[/URL][/QUOTE]One of my regular Soi Cowboy girls know this policeman. He is a known trouble-maker for several years and he also frequent some of the Soi Cowboy establishments for drinking and for singing karaoke. She told me the story was not exactly as depicted in this link. Actually, the two men new each other and there was several girls involved, but not really a girlfriend. And the fight had started in a bar in Soi 11 due to an argument over the bill, not due to some jealusy. It ended with a fist fight right there in the bar. What happed later outside the French guys apartment building is probably accurate. The policeman will get as he deserves and will stay in prison for a very long time. Anyway, the lesson is still; walk away from trouble before it escalates, especially in Thailand.

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I'm not sure why Thailand is such a hot destination anymore. I mean really, if you want to fuck a reasonably attractive girl it's going to run you at least 2000 thb. If you want to pick one up from the bar it's at least 2000 thb and then a bar fine, 500 to 1000 thb and add the overpriced drinks you just had to pay for. The hotter ones will demand at least 3000 thb. I've actually been asked for 10000 thb+ at a gogo bar in Phuket before. I've even been quoted a 3000 thb bar fine. What the fuck? So you're looking at over $100 for one nut, probably way more if she's hot, and a lot of these girls refuse to blow you without a condom. Or you can go to a massage parlor and pay 2000 thb for a soapy massage in what looks like a public bathroom with a mat on the floor or get a regular massage in a room with cockroaches crawling on the ground. I guess if you're one of these dudes bragging about how you pay 1000 thb for a lay, that must have been a street hooker or something, and I've yet to find one that isn't ugly. Has anyone really walked down beach road in Pattaya and said OMG I'm in fucking heaven look at all these beautiful girls lined up? Hell no. Those girls are bottom tier. It turns out the real bang for your buck is taking them for extended periods of time, but a lot of times they don't want to sleep in your hotel next to your snoring ass. A lot of times they'll ask to leave early. Why say no? Why sleep next to someone who gives zero fucks about you and doesn't want to be there?

Got me wondering if anyone has ever been to Germany or Belgium. I mean go to a window girl, that's 50 euros for a nut. No bullshit no games no drinks. Sure, it's all covered, but that's how a lot of the girls in Thailand prefer it too. So you actually wind up paying $100+ for a nut from a Thai girl and you could have gotten the same thing in Belgium for 50 euros from a white girl. And if you were to have gone to an FKK in Germany, you pay 50 euros to get in, don't have to buy them any drinks don't have to pay any bar fine, once you're in you can fuck them all, 50 euros each. Want extras? Another 50 euros will get her to do much more for you. And she'll tell you everything she'll do up front no games no bullshit and takes you to a (usually) clean and reasonable room. If these Thai girls were properly priced, the hottest fake tits skinny model ones should be going for 2000 thb maximum for a nut. More than that for a 3rd world broke ass Thai girl just doesn't make any sense.

Don't know what everyone else's reasoning is for loving this place so much but I'm out. It's simply not worth it. Europe peddles much better, much prettier working girls for less than Thailand does. Who the fuck would have thought it would come to this? Must be the over tourism that ruined this place. I'm sure at one point it must have been lovely and the prices reasonable. Same as Amsterdam, tourists ruined that place.

[QUOTE=Lastjungle;2263391]I'm not sure why Thailand is such a hot destination anymore. I mean really, if you want to fuck a reasonably attractive girl it's going to run you at least 2000 thb. If you want to pick one up from the bar it's at least 2000 thb and then a bar fine, 500 to 1000 thb and add the overpriced drinks you just had to pay for. The hotter ones will demand at least 3000 thb. I've actually been asked for 10000 thb+ at a gogo bar in Phuket before. I've even been quoted a 3000 thb bar fine. What the fuck? So you're looking at over $100 for one nut, probably way more if she's hot, and a lot of these girls refuse to blow you without a condom. Or you can go to a massage parlor and pay 2000 thb for a soapy massage in what looks like a public bathroom with a mat on the floor or get a regular massage in a room with cockroaches crawling on the ground. I guess if you're one of these dudes bragging about how you pay 1000 thb for a lay, that must have been a street hooker or something, and I've yet to find one that isn't ugly. Has anyone really walked down beach road in Pattaya and said OMG I'm in fucking heaven look at all these beautiful girls lined up? Hell no. Those girls are bottom tier. It turns out the real bang for your buck is taking them for extended periods of time, but a lot of times they don't want to sleep in your hotel next to your snoring ass. A lot of times they'll ask to leave early. Why say no? Why sleep next to someone who gives zero fucks about you and doesn't want to be there?

Got me wondering if anyone has ever been to Germany or Belgium. I mean go to a window girl, that's 50 euros for a nut. No bullshit no games no drinks. Sure, it's all covered, but that's how a lot of the girls in Thailand prefer it too. So you actually wind up paying $100+ for a nut from a Thai girl and you could have gotten the same thing in Belgium for 50 euros from a white girl. And if you were to have gone to an FKK in Germany, you pay 50 euros to get in, don't have to buy them any drinks don't have to pay any bar fine, once you're in you can fuck them all, 50 euros each. Want extras? Another 50 euros will get her to do much more for you. And she'll tell you everything she'll do up front no games no bullshit and takes you to a (usually) clean and reasonable room. If these Thai girls were properly priced, the hottest fake tits skinny model ones should be going for 2000 thb maximum for a nut. More than that for a 3rd world broke ass Thai girl just doesn't make any sense.

Don't know what everyone else's reasoning is for loving this place so much but I'm out. It's simply not worth it. Europe peddles much better, much prettier working girls for less than Thailand does. Who the fuck would have thought it would come to this? Must be the over tourism that ruined this place. I'm sure at one point it must have been lovely and the prices reasonable. Same as Amsterdam, tourists ruined that place.[/QUOTE]I agree with much of what you posted with regard to the usual go-to P4P venues in Thailand, particularly the sentiment in that last paragraph about it being the tourists, the modern punters who are ruining the place with their low expectations and minimal demands. Case in point your mention that some girls "won't blow you without a condom". I sure read here and hear in person that horror story more and more. I do believe the condom issue is a much bigger problem in the Thai P4P scene than one might conclude from reading these threads. Reading many of these FRs, one would think almost every punter in Thailand is fine with wearing a condom for relatively expensive sex (for a country like Thailand). But that is definitely contrary to what I hear from virtually every fellow punter of any age I meet in Thailand.

Getting it "BB"/bareback seems to be a constant topic of conversation. And I am not the one initiating the conversation about it. No, I don't mean from girls who are so low on the scale they grasp at any 700 baht counter offer and will do anything for it with anyone. I am talking about above average or better girls who will not budge for less than 2000-2500 baht. It has become so much the topic of discussion with the guys who live and visit here of late, I actually had a dream the other night that every customer entering Thermae for two solid weeks refused to take a girl for any amount of baht unless she agreed to BBFS+CIP! LOL. Talk about modern Thai P4P "culture shock".

But I have found one can still have plenty of True GFEs (in my book, that is at least either a full and complete BBBJ+CIM or a BBFS+CIP) with good looking young Bangkok go-go girls that I suspect would do it much more for me in terms of youth, looks and demeanor than the European "white girls" you referenced. But that is just me. And I don't find spending the equivalent of $100-$150 USD in order to enjoy it leaves me wondering why I spent so much.

I notice you did not mention anything about meeting girls on the dating sites or social networks. Again, those are not the traditional go-to Thai P4P venues but they certainly are where many of us are now swinging very rewarding True GFEs with lovely young Thai girls for less than it costs to barfine and pay a similar age and appearance go-go girl, Thermae level girls I would say. The huge difference being it seems easier to negotiate BB with those same type of girls when you meet and video chat with them online than when you meet them standing in that very uncomfortable and intimidating lineup at Thermae.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2259288]Nana Plaza lost a Ladyboy bar and gained a regular (real ladies only?) go-go bar very recently. It is called Geisha, located on the top level of Nana Plaza in the corner down from Butterflies go-go bar, in a spot that used to be a Ladyboy bar. I think the name is "Geisha" only, no "Bar" next to it, but could be wrong. Somewhat U-shaped seating area around a tiered stage. Has a glassed-in bathtub box on the far side of the stage as you walk in. The girls in that glass box wash themselves with sudsy water from the tub and go topless. Seems to have some of the available stage and seating area on the opposite side of the room curtained off for further construction. I don't know for sure since this bar was a Labyboy bar before and I never went inside then.

I went there last night, Saturday night, around 9 PM. When the mamasan saw me walk in she came over, threw her arms around me all smiles and happiness, welcoming me into the place. I never met her before, so that was unexpected. LOL. Maybe she thought I was somebody else she knew already. She told me all the girls are barfineable, all barfines are 800 baht regardless of ST or LT and everything else is up to the girl and you. I pointed to one girl onstage who was wearing a black bikini instead of the general white the other girls were wearing and to another one who appeared to be wearing a double layer top with a black bra under her white bikini top (no pantyhose) and asked why they were wearing those and did that mean they were Coyotes? Mamasan said no difference, same as the other girls. I didn't ask, but I saw no evidence of intermingled Ladyboys, although I don't recall seeing a "Real Ladies Only" sign outside either.

In the two sets of dance sessions I sat for, there were about 12 girls on stage for each set and another half dozen or so walking around or sitting next to or on the laps of customers. Not a particularly wild or party atmosphere. The music was loud but not too loud for me to understand what the mamasan and servers were saying to me. At that hour on this Saturday night the seating area, three levels of cushioned bleacher style booths, was about 20% occupied. Despite the possibly misleading name of the bar (in more ways than one, imo) the customer demographic was no more than half Asian/Japanese(?) and there seemed to be mostly older expat type customers. Same as me, I suppose.

I did not see any girls rating what one would likely consider a Bargirl 8 or above in terms of looks. But if you are fine with the young cute or quirky cute look and demeanor, as I am, you might have found 3-4 on the stage during each set that appealed enough to give her a shot. I came in smiling, was greeted rather nicely by the mamasan, kept up a positive, happy and approachable demeanor since that is genuinely how I felt last night anyway, yet I can't say my smile or gaze was returned by any "doable" girl (for me) either on stage or walking around. Neither I nor any other customer in the bar was approached by girls alone or in pairs for a Ladydrink request after they came down from the stage after a set. They all donned more regular clothes over their bikinis, shorts and t-shirts, and hightailed it outside to join the "Come Inside!" chorus.

Maybe those last couple of observations is a comment on the girls' interest or rather disinterest in me buying one a drink or barfining them, I have no idea. LOL. Some guys much prefer the "no interference with my drinking" style in a bar, where the girls neither flag you from the stage with a "buy me drink" gesture or approach you personally after their dance set. This time I took it as a reason not to engage with any girl there but might go back and give it another look sometime.[/QUOTE]I'd suggest waiting a bit and then giving Geisha another chance. They're in the process of expanding quite a bit, you can see the work if you find your way to the bathroom. They're signing on more girls, and it's improved quite a bit, and I expect that'll continue. They're apparently giving the girls a better deal than many of the other bars. It looks to me like they intend to be a strong competitor.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2263592]I agree with much of what you posted with regard to the usual go-to P4P venues in Thailand, particularly the sentiment in that last paragraph about it being the tourists, the modern punters who are ruining the place with their low expectations and minimal demands. Case in point your mention that some girls "won't blow you without a condom". I sure read here and hear in person that horror story more and more. I do believe the condom issue is a much bigger problem in the Thai P4P scene than one might conclude from reading these threads. Reading many of these FRs, one would think almost every punter in Thailand is fine with wearing a condom for relatively expensive sex (for a country like Thailand). But that is definitely contrary to what I hear from virtually every fellow punter of any age I meet in Thailand..[/QUOTE]Not saying condom less doesn't happen with those high end girls, it does, but many just flat out refuse. What you're talking about using dating sites is much more work, almost like traditional dating. You have to sift through loads of bullshit before you get what you want. Also, this can be done anywhere so why bother with that in Thailand where sex is supposed to be widely available and easy to get, you could even do that in the US on sites like seekingarrangement and pay less than you would going to escorts or whatever. But the easiest ways to get ass around here mean you're going to get ripped off. Where as in Europe, no bullshit.