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[QUOTE=Henio]I do not know of any club that allows a lady guest that is not a "worker" there to have sex with other men than the one she arrived with. Please tell.
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Hi Henio,

What you say makes complete sense, so let me reconsider a moment.

Firstly I have, somewhat belatedly, come the conclusion that time of day and of week makes an enormous difference to the experiences within a club, and the relative merits between clubs. Those whose general habit is to arrive at 23:00 for a few hours with a club in full swing have a very different set of experiences to someone who might see the same club on a cold wet Wedesday afternoon, or yet again a warm sunny Sunday afternoon.

I frequently enjoy extended visits during the daytime. I, and perhaps all of us, should take more care to state explicitly the times of particular experiences, and to avoid making false inductions about an experience that might vary on a different occasion. Nowhere is this more evident than the arguments over the relative merits between GT (excellent during the day, too crowded at night) and the alternatives PHG, LR, VV, YY, Acapulco (frequently too quiet during the day but better ratios at night)

So, I must clarify that I don't think I have ever seen couples during peak busy times, only at daytimes but mostly at weekends. I may have wrongly induced how frequently this occurs, and may have misadvised Chesaning if he was expecting to take his GF to Oase on a Friday night!

The more interesting specific point is about "non-workers" having sessions with men. I agree, it doesn't make sense for the clubs to allow this, and it is pretty much inconceivable to imagine at a heavily managed club like GT.

I can only recall one(?) occasion of this, that which I mentioned at Oase. It made a strong impression upon me, and I have always cherished the memory as a charming example of what is right about FKK land. Maybe that dream is about to fade.

It was a pleasant winters Sunday afternoon at Oase. I had enjoyed a couple of nice relaxed sessions, and went outside to the sauna areas to relax and recover a while. In the large sauna (on the left as you come out) there was one older woman, surrounded by a gaggle of guys. I went in, and it became clear that one of the guys was her partner. The other guys were hovering around like guys do at a swingerclub, hoping for some action. The woman was pleasant, but a little old, and a little fleshy, just like the majority of women in the real world or in a swinger club.

I stayed for a while out of interest. I do not speak enough German to have joined in the conversation. Eventually, I left the sauna area without detailed discussion, and I did not session with the woman. At other times, intermittently, over the afternoon she remained in the quieter areas, gently flirting with a varying group of guys.

Since I did not session with her, or explicitly ask her what she was doing, I can only make assumptions which may prove to be wrong.

That said, I still find it hard to draw a different conclusion. One does see older providers sometimes at the big clubs. There is the red-haired Englishwoman at World (that I always assume is Cordelia), and she weaves her magic in a particular way with her favourites: but one would never doubt that she was a provider. With due respect, I would not expect her to attract a circle of horny admirers as the lady in Oase did. The dynamic was different. I don't know why we (men) would treat a non-pro differently, but that was how it felt. It is also unusual for a provider to "hold court" in an out of the way area, without prowling the public spaces.

Anyway those are the facts. There may be other explanations, but I can't think of any. I just smiled to myself, and enjoyed the image of relaxed, tolerant sexuality that I perceived.

Short question, long answer.

Have fun.

PL

I posted a response to this exact question a couple of years back, but because I'm too lazy to look for it, I'll just recompose the same answer.
I have asked management and SP at a number of the clubs and invariably received an almost identical version of the following:
* Women customers are welcome at FKK clubs.
* It's a rare ocurrence but happens.
* Women customers pay the same entrance fee as their male counterparts.
* They must follow the same dress code as the women SP in that club.
* They use the same locker room, toilets and shower facilities as the other customers, not those of the female staff
* They can session with SP who are willing to go with a woman customer, with or without their male partner.
* They can talk, flirt, eat, sweat in the sauna, relax in the jacuzzi and dance with male customers, but they cannot session with any male customers other than with the male that they entered the club.

Our friend Cordelia, who was mentioned in Plover's post, actually started her FKK career this way accompanying her husband on one of his frequent visits to World. If Cordelia responded we would receive an insider angle on this issue. BTW Plover, you are missing out on one incredible woman, if you've never sessioned with her.

I happen to know of another SP in another club (sorry I can't divulge her name) who also began her FKK career in a similar fashion. Except that in her case, she ended staying on the FKK circuit and her male partner, stopped visiting clubs.So you may want to think twice about bringing your GF with you. Could unleash a genie that won't get back in the bottle....

Hello Gents,

I’ve been sitting on this one for a week or so but finally I get around to letting you all in on a pretty major change in my day to day existence. To put it bluntly a week and a half back I lost the job that I have had here in Berlin for the past two and a half years. To be truthful I have seen it coming since about last October when I returned from my my October tour. Well, seen it coming might be a bit strong. Had I really seen it coming maybe I would have planned it all out a bit better. More accurate would be to say that I was sort of living in denial that I could keep on doing the job and that it would last a while longer.

I was unhappy in this job for a long time. I liked the work (cooking) and the pay was reasonable (it allowed me to monger pretty freely) but the personal relationship I had with the owner was always stormy. Those who have met me will know that I am a pretty agreeable person-not that difficult to get along with. But I do have my limits and my former employer really knew how to push the buttons.

So without going into the sordid details (and I do take responsibility for my own shit in all this) we finally reached a point where one of us had to go. And it is his place, so….

I have to say that mostly I feel great about it. A weight has been lifted from me and I feel that I can now pursue more that which I am interested in rather than constantly giving up my energy in stress & strife. But for now, the money has dried up completely. I have a bit saved to see me through the next weeks, and my personal network of support is strong so I am not in danger of losing my place, but those 300 Euro nights at Artemis have to stop for now.

And so my hiatus from mongering. A pause to see what else is possible at the grand old age of 51 years. Please do not get me wrong here. I have no exact plan to stop mongering. It has, after all, been with me now for most (off & on) of my adult life. And to be truthful, I think I was even trading candy for favors while still in short pants. But for at least the short term future there will be no more Artemis reports from this old dog.

Schade!

I do though have some plans. My writing is something I really feel to concentrate upon. I have been in contact with a new English language magazine (it has not started to publish yet) here in Berlin and have the editor interested in a piece based on my October report. Not sure if there will be any money there(doubtful actually), but exposure & experience do count for something.

And I do not rule out cooking some more. As I say, I do enjoy cooking but not with the same enthusiasm that I like to write. If I am to cook I want it to be in an environment, and with people, I enjoy. I have been in contact with a place I think I would enjoy, and I have had an interesting nibble from this place. But it is still in very early days and after sending them my appropriate info, I await to hear more.

So gentlemen please, press your thumbs (that is like cross your fingers for the N. Americans) that I will land a high paying, low stress, heaps of fun job offer in the very near future. Or that I will sell the movie rights to the October tour report post haste and be back in clover and ready to monger.

I am open to all suggestions and encouragement and I will most certainly still hang around here offering more general advice & comments.

As always, thanks for reading.

Am

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hello Gents,

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So gentlemen please, press your thumbs (that is like cross your fingers for the N. Americans) that I will land a high paying, low stress, heaps of fun job offer in the very near future. Or that I will sell the movie rights to the October tour report post haste and be back in clover and ready to monger.

I am open to all suggestions and encouragement and I will most certainly still hang around here offering more general advice & comments.

As always, thanks for reading.

Am[/QUOTE]

Angus, let me be the first to say, although we have not met, I have enjoyed your reports and advice. I have only been in Germany 1x but I enjoyed that experience and you have given me tips and hope for my next expedition. Of course you can count on my having my thumbs pressed [U]&[/U] my fingers crossed. There are many persons on this board whom I have not met but feel I owe a debt of gratitude to: you are one of the top of my list. Good luck with your search.

If you are able to come and visit in April, so much the better. If not, I understand that life has it's priorities.

And continue to stay in touch...I know I will.

(Not to be facetious but give Oase a call, they could really use a person with culinary skills)

In the end You must do what You must.

Good Luck & Take Care.

Myr.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]So gentlemen please, press your thumbs (that is like cross your fingers for the N. Americans) that I will land a high paying, low stress, heaps of fun job offer in the very near future. Or that I will sell the movie rights to the October tour report post haste and be back in clover and ready to monger.

I am open to all suggestions and encouragement and I will most certainly still hang around here offering more general advice & comments.[/QUOTE]Angus,

Best of luck finding a new job. I hope you will be back at your regular haunt of Artemis as soon as possible. And even though we have not met your posts have been invaluable to my FKK experience over the last two years so thank you so much.

All the Best,

J Boom

Best of luck with the job hunting Angus. I always enjoy reading your reports and comments on this forum and hope that you will continue to participate while you are between work assignments and temporarily resting. You sound like an intelligent and thoughtful guy with a good sense of humour. Its hard to keep a good guy down and I find it hard to believe that you will be looking for work for very long. Best of luck buddy.

CD

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]To put it bluntly a week and a half back I lost the job that I have had here in Berlin for the past two and a half years. [/QUOTE]I too, have never met you, but in my interest to check out Artemis this year, I intently read a bunch of your reports

Quality for sure.

I wish you luck in your search, and hope that your downtime is minimal.

Best Regards

Smuler

[QUOTE=Angus Magee]Hello Gents,

I’ve been sitting on this one for a week or so but finally[/QUOTE]Even though i haven't met most of you gentlemen on this board it feels as if i know you all and it saddens me when a brother has cash flow problems as it is quite crucial for us mongers, but as someone already said i'm certain you'll find a job soon. Have always loved your reports and please keep us updated on that article. Seems very interesting indeed. I'm sure you'll be back at Artemis soon spending your hard earned cash with a smile on your face.

John

[QUOTE=Myrmidon](Not to be facetious but give Oase a call, they could really use a person with culinary skills)[/QUOTE]Funny remark! I've always mused that this was the reason the food was so bad so long. The cook was so frustrated stirring the gruel for hours on end in the hot kitchen, knowing so well what was going on a ladle's throw away in the rooms.

Angus,

You have been a charming and valuable member of this community.

It is at a moment like this that it feels as if in some ways this is a real community.

I am sure we all wish you the very best luck in obtaining fresh funding for your research.

All the best,

PL

Hey guys,

Thanks for all the messages. And let me assure you I am not going away from the forum (as far as I know) and will most certainly comment though perhaps more in a general way than with specific info.

And I will also add that I have been in much worse situations than the current one. I actually feel pretty refreshed and energized by the situation like there is something fun, new and well paid just over the horizon.

Shit-maybe I even find a girlfriend!! Better be careful what I wish for.

And on the other hand I could wish for this fellow's job.

[url]http://anyguey.guanabee.com/2009/08/jaime-rascone-prostitute-tester[/url]

;-))

Guys I moved my post here, cause it was not in the right thread.

[QUOTE=Qubei]....You can get excellent rates for rental cars if you state German residency and a German address when booking your rental car via Avis or Hertz....[/QUOTE]

I apologize if it was already explained, but how to state German residence if I am not German ?

I mean, it is enough to write it in internet when you book or something else ?

Once there, when they give you the key of the car, they do not control if you are really German ?

More or less how much money are you gonna to save with this trick ?

Thanks guys


[QUOTE=Rwaters]I marked the box as German resident on Sixt.com and I paid 100 euros instead of 200 Euros for a 4 day rental of a BMW Cooper--sweet ride![/QUOTE]

I tried right now and it showed me the same price ?! :(



Any other rent car agency at good price from airport Frankfurt Hahn (HHN) ?

I rented a car from Sixt.com from Frankfurt Maim. Not hahn.

Just under the area where you choose the dates for the car, it states "Permanent Place of Residence" and has "USA" as default. Hit the "Change" to the Right of "USA" and change it to Germany.

[QUOTE=Rwaters]..Hit the "Change" to the Right of "USA" and change it to Germany.[/QUOTE]

Hi and thanks for answer, I did and from Main, but it shows me VW Golf at 106 euro per day and VW Polo at 81E... a bit too expensive or not ?

I got to most clubs during my last trip using mostly public transportation. Only a few places are difficult to get to without a car. Google maps is a very useful tool to find clubs and now its on most smartphones. I rather spend the money for sex than for transport and other expenses.