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[QUOTE=RacShack;1708705]Thanks again I remember you saying this, do you think it will work like 2-3 am? My flight from Fll lands I think at 2 am![/QUOTE]That, I don't know. Never gotten in to PTY at night. It probably depends on if any flights are departing at say 4 am.
[QUOTE=GauntMan;1708582]I think its most a hit or miss once you are in the premises, I did all my info gathering thru the telephone.[/QUOTE]Hats off to your diligence (truly good work). However, when you call and specifically ask on the phone, they are obligated to give you the official line.
I am telling you practical info. Hope that is somewhat useful as well. I spent a lot of time in the business area which is out in the open in the lobby and over two nights I saw handful of working girls brought in by mongers with no problem.
Unless the hotel bill is a problem for you, I would not think about staying anywhere except the Trump. Best hotel in the city and they don't nickel and dime you on anything. Much less these stupid chica charges.
[QUOTE=Canyon;1705841]I'm considering a trip to Panama City in late July, and I've been reading the forum to get information on which to make a decision. I need some help from some of you veterans, because some of the information was ambiguous.
ACCOMODATIONS.
I was disappointed to learn that most of the high-end hotels were not chica-friendly. This is a big issue with me, since I always use take-out and bring the girl back to my room for a relaxed session. I'm looking for a high-end hotel that is chica-friendly and within reason, I'm not price sensitive. Are the following hotels high-end and chica-friendly?
1, Trump Hotel 2. Saville Suites 3. El Principe Are there any others?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vitrea;1708867]Hats off to your diligence (truly good work). However, when you call and specifically ask on the phone, they are obligated to give you the official line.
I am telling you practical info. Hope that is somewhat useful as well. I spent a lot of time in the business area which is out in the open in the lobby and over two nights I saw handful of working girls brought in by mongers with no problem.[/QUOTE]Thing is, some of them actually told me if the guests would be "chicas de compania" and some of those were hotels where they don't give you too much trouble for girls.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1708589]I don't know why you meatheads won't listen to me. Go upstairs to arrivals and you can get a cab into town for $15. If the first one won't take $15 the next one will, or the next one. Fuck Uber. I have done this at least five times now.
Or, fuck around making cell phone calls and pay $35 and have to give your credit card information, and face 'cancellation fees. ' Whatever floats your boat.[/QUOTE]This is true, you can walk upstairs to the departure area and catch a cab for as low as $12, which is the fee for regular yellow cabs from anywhere in the city towards the airport and viceversa.
Right, I meant go upstairs to [B]departures[/B], not arrivals which obviously you just [B]arrived.[/B] My bad. Anyway, you schmucks are paying WAY too much for cabs and you need to stop doing that. The cab fares are [B]regulated[/B] and if you are too chickenshit to call these cab drivers on how they constantly rip you off, I just don't understand it. Again, let's look at what gas prices have done recently Ummmm, they have gone [B]down[/B]. That means cab drivers are doing [B]well[/B] compared to the last few years. So get your shit together.
[QUOTE=GauntMan;1709497]This is true, you can walk upstairs to the departure area and catch a cab for as low as $12, which is the fee for regular yellow cabs from anywhere in the city towards the airport and viceversa.[/QUOTE]So just a point of clarification as I have not been thru Tocumen before. Upstairs is DEPARTURES and not arrivals. That makes more sense to me but please confirm or assist.
Thanks!!
See you all on Thursday!
H1.
I have played around the world and I am a high Roller in Vegas at the Hard Rock. I am not looking to make the big kill here but I am staying at Veneto and the things I need to know:
1. Table Limits. I do NOT want to stand out in the crowd. Is $25 a safe table minimum or is it $5?
2. Continuous shuffle or hand shuffle. I want hand shuffle. Where and how do I find it?
3. I have studied the odds for PTY and expect to win big but that's all relative so I want to stay under the radar but bring home about 10 k in 1 week. Thoughts?
4. Additional. You tell me.
I have been around the tables for a long time and understand the game. Any insights are appreciated!
H1.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1709513]So just a point of clarification as I have not been thru Tocumen before. Upstairs is DEPARTURES and not arrivals. That makes more sense to me but please confirm or assist.
Thanks!!
See you all on Thursday!
H1.[/QUOTE]Yep! Upstairs is departures o viajeros de salida, when you get out of panama, youll be in departures and when arriving to panama, downstairs in arrivals.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1709510]Right, I meant go upstairs to [B]departures[/B], not arrivals which obviously you just [B]arrived.[/B] My bad. Anyway, you schmucks are paying WAY too much for cabs and you need to stop doing that. The cab fares are [B]regulated[/B] and if you are too chickenshit to call these cab drivers on how they constantly rip you off, I just don't understand it. Again, let's look at what gas prices have done recently Ummmm, they have gone [B]down[/B]. That means cab drivers are doing [B]well[/B] compared to the last few years. So get your shit together.[/QUOTE]Landed last night, worked like a dream, first guy said 30 ,I laughed, cab right behind him said 25 ,I said 15 he said ok off to the trump! I got in late at 2 am spirit flight, got one right in front of trump, she wanted 200 , worked her down to 100 right up to the apt, Cuban girl 19 hot, excellent service BBBJ, awesome fuck, called it the night, funny shit I'm staying on 36th floor, get up early to go by pool, open door hot hot girl from Cali walking out apt one door down from mine (super hot) said Hi on her way by, started talking she wanted 200, offered 100 bam nailed it, though her in hot shower together, another awesome BBBJ, even better fuck several dif positions 'stayed like 2 hrs, hit it off well going to pool with her tomorrow! Haven't been here in almost 3 years didn't think I was got to be crazy about, but must say so far a awesome start to a trip!
I am in Panama city now if anyone wants to get together for a few, give me a shout. Definately not Asia.
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1709517]I have played around the world and I am a high Roller in Vegas at the Hard Rock. I am not looking to make the big kill here but I am staying at Veneto and the things I need to know:
1. Table Limits. I do NOT want to stand out in the crowd. Is $25 a safe table minimum or is it $5?
2. Continuous shuffle or hand shuffle. I want hand shuffle. Where and how do I find it?
3. I have studied the odds for PTY and expect to win big but that's all relative so I want to stay under the radar but bring home about 10 k in 1 week. Thoughts?
4. Additional. You tell me.
I have been around the tables for a long time and understand the game. Any insights are appreciated!
H1.[/QUOTE]Hey Hobbiest1,
It is not completely clear to me if you are a skilled player or not? Are you? Can you provide some information about your background? I will assume you are a skilled player and say a few related things.
First, be aware that CSMs are the norm. Not many hand-shuffled games, but there are some around. When I was at the Veneto, the pit that is closest to the bar used hand-shuffled games, but the other pits did not -- those had machine shufflers only. And that one pit closest to the bar was only open a few days out of the week. Their main pit was the one that was further away from the bar.
Green chip action will make you stand out. You WILL be noticed, and will receive attention, not only from the pit personnel, but from chip-hustlers, too. Do not be surprised if you are approached by women who might sit next to you and try to get some of your chips, one way or the other. Even if you are spreading from $5-200 you will get attention. The heat would be about the same as playing $25 min. The definitive write-up on Veneto chip hustling in on the Wizard of Odds website. (Google it to read the article.).
I was there last year, and there were good games around, but not much. But definitely do as much scouting as you can. Things might have changed since then. Check the casino at the Continental hotel, and those casinos around there, but try to check out some others, too, like the one in the mall, on the 4th floor, next to the Hard Rock hotel. Keep your eyes open for promotions.
I did not see any beatable games in terms of shuffle-tracking or hole-carding, but did see a few games with regard to counting.
Can I ask how you arrived at your 10 k win in a week? What did you determine your E. V. Was? If it's $100/ HR, then you will have to get in 100 hours to have an E. V. Of 10 k, and you won't be able to get in 100 hours of playing time in a week.
If you can elaborate more on your game and your background, I can break it down more.
Wow, I remember back in the day (5 years ago) I used to call the escalator going up to casino (Venito) "stair way to heaven", can't believe now it's like going up to hell, this place has 0 customer service,(not that it was ever that good) but now seems like staff goes out of their way to make sure you leave their not happy! I don't get it it could be such a gold mine, tonight no AC in casino, big water leak in men's restroom from ceiling, floors and walls disgusting, can't get a drink at table period, Pitt boss was a rude -that's being nice ' fucking girls ask for a drink before even asking your name, what a shame, can't make this shit up, really almost not a good place at all, you will see a couple of chumps that never been their and even them have fake smiles on, boy if anybody know how it used to be to now, Mon night pulled a girl out of their with a good smile all around nice 22 yr old Cuban ,100, get her back to apt half ass massage, tried to put condom on for BJ after making it clear before leaving, she kept trying to get out of going into shower, bingo finally I see why. A scar from hip to hip not just a reg scar, but huge, from bad lipo suction from Cuba, I think her name was Nancy, stay clear! So far all my girls have been pulled from trump casino and parking lot, it's very discreet but their around!
I guess I would rather just play reds and not get undue attention and just have fun. As you know not every single hand will be reds so I could probably get away with some $50/$100 bets and doubles on those. FYI am a hole carder / counter so I tend to do pretty good for myself. I will def. Check out the Continental hotel area. Thanks Mariano!
[QUOTE=MarianoRiv;1710556]Hey Hobbiest1,
It is not completely clear to me if you are a skilled player or not? Are you? Can you provide some information about your background? I will assume you are a skilled player and say a few related things.
First, be aware that CSMs are the norm. Not many hand-shuffled games, but there are some around. When I was at the Veneto, the pit that is closest to the bar used hand-shuffled games, but the other pits did not -- those had machine shufflers only. And that one pit closest to the bar was only open a few days out of the week. Their main pit was the one that was further away from the bar.
Green chip action will make you stand out. You WILL be noticed, and will receive attention, not only from the pit personnel, but from chip-hustlers, too. Do not be surprised if you are approached by women who might sit next to you and try to get some of your chips, one way or the other. Even if you are spreading from $5-200 you will get attention. The heat would be about the same as playing $25 min. The definitive write-up on Veneto chip hustling in on the Wizard of Odds website. (Google it to read the article.).
I was there last year, and there were good games around, but not much. But definitely do as much scouting as you can. Things might have changed since then. Check the casino at the Continental hotel, and those casinos around there, but try to check out some others, too, like the one in the mall, on the 4th floor, next to the Hard Rock hotel. Keep your eyes open for promotions.
I did not see any beatable games in terms of shuffle-tracking or hole-carding, but did see a few games with regard to counting.
Can I ask how you arrived at your 10 k win in a week? What did you determine your E. V. Was? If it's $100/ HR, then you will have to get in 100 hours to have an E. V. Of 10 k, and you won't be able to get in 100 hours of playing time in a week.
If you can elaborate more on your game and your background, I can break it down more.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hobbiest1;1710859]I guess I would rather just play reds and not get undue attention and just have fun. As you know not every single hand will be reds so I could probably get away with some $50/$100 bets and doubles on those. FYI am a hole carder / counter so I tend to do pretty good for myself. I will def. Check out the Continental hotel area. Thanks Mariano![/QUOTE]Now that I think about it, the hand-shuffled games at the casino in the Continental hotel might be only on the blackack variant, "Canal 21. " But yeah, check out that casino. Also check the casino in the El Panama hotel, behind the Veneto. I don't remember seeing anything interesting at the Sortis casino or in the Royal Casino (across from Habano's), but you might as well check out the Royal casino, since you may be visiting Habano's nearby! Try to check out some of the other casinos further away, if you're interested, but I didn't see too much out there. The Veneto has good potential if they open that secondary pit near the bar. No hole-carding opportunities on blackjack, as the dealer does not take a hole card in Panama.
Table max is $200. The reason I said that even red chip action will get attention is because you might have $1,000 or more in chips on the table, and that is a lot, by Panama standards. Same with bets of $100-200. They won't necessarily sweat the action, but will definitely take notice. You might even get "lucky" enough to have an experience with a chip-hustler next to you! Woohoo!