American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2593924]Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?[/QUOTE]You are saying that the former guy [B]did not[/B] negotiate with the Taliban without getting the Afghan government involved.

You are saying that the former guy [B]did not[/B] require the Afghan government to release 5,000 Taliban prisoners.

You are saying that the terms that the former guy "negotiated" with the Taliban [B]did not[/B] force the Taliban to not acquire additional territory prior to the US withdrawal.

Because if that's what you are saying, I can prove it is a lie.

What I find laughable is that the QOP would have pilloried Biden no matter what. If he would have said "we going to stay in Afghanistan until we can leave with honor", you fascists would have called him a warmonger.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593998]We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.[/QUOTE]Using this same logic, Chrisp thinks that it would be fine if willfully refusing a COVID vaccine would result in a COVID patient being refused medical treatment and also to pay for the medical expenses of all that he / she infected. "They knew the risks and it didn't include free medical care".

[QUOTE=Kadeem;2593968]Biden failed to mention Taliban is giving women's rights according to Islam Law. Which means they don't get any rights. Biden begging to Taliban just shows weakness. Biden showed the world that USA leadership is weak and can be taken advantage of. Taliban first to do it. Took them 3 or 4 days. Terrorists are in hog heaven with Biden presidency. They can just walk into USA from Mexico and we have another 9-11. There is a reason Taliban didn't try taking over all of Afghanistan when Trump cut troops to 2500 because Trump would have retaliated. They waited for a weak spineless president that begs Taliban to let US citizens leave.

Democrats and Republicans both acknowledge this.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/3952441651522306/[/URL]

"You're not gonna need an 'exit strategy'."
"As soon as we leave it's all gonna blow up anyway."
- the very strong and threatening BEGotiator, Donald J. Trump.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2593925]The minute you Democratic and all who voted for him apologize for Clinton not getting rid of Bin Laden. Two can play the partisan finger pointing game.[/QUOTE]Get rid of him based on what evidence Clinton had as president? You do have to explain to the world why the USA killed the son of a wealthy, well placed Middle East businessman and popular member of that family. The CIA, FBI and other intel agencies did not determine Bin Laden was (likely) responsible for the October 2000 USS Cole attack until June of 2001. What did the POTUS at that time do about it?

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593998]We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.[/QUOTE]Then what are the Biden critics on FUX News Channel and elsewhere demanding should have been done with them after Trump reduced our troop level to a paltry 2500 five days before leaving office, probably his obedient response to an order from the Taliban to do so, refusing to work with and coordinate any "plan" with the incoming administration, Trump obediently having gotten those 5,000 Taliban terrorists released from prison on the Taliban's orders but against the wishes of the Afghanistan government, the president of Afghanistan fleeing in terror and all the Warlords and local officials taking Taliban bribes to do nothing and look the other way while the Taliban seized control of Kabul without firing a single shot?

Just put them on a plane and fly around non stop until they die of old age? Set up a new Witness Protection I.D. and life for them in a cave?

When CNN is calling the Biden admin out for their incompetence, you know they f'd up huge.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBE9OqILRrk[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593998]We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.[/QUOTE]I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2593924]Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?[/QUOTE]Could you make it easier for me douche to understand why you can't turn off the TV on your own?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594380]I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?[/QUOTE]Where in their contracts did it say "permanent residency and lifetime welfare in America"?

The scenes at the Fall of Kabul will go down with the Fall of Saigon as an abject humiliation for America. In fact it is worse: the South Vietnamese army at least held out for 2 years after US military withdrawal. The Afghan National Army couldn't even hold out for 2 weeks. The Taliban have now surrounded the airport, and the Biden administration is having to beg them to permit Americans to leave.

Biden presided over this disastrous humiliation, which has weakened and embarrassed the US.

And all you can think about is filling America with more third world shitholers on welfare. LOL. Election fraud, fake news, humiliation, failure, third world invasion: a fitting end to our fallen country.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593998]We didn't "leave them behind" because we didn't bring them there in the first place. They chose to work for us, knowing the risks, and were well paid for doing so. The contract did not include residency and lifetime welfare in America.[/QUOTE]This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: [URL]https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states[/URL].

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594380]I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?[/QUOTE]Exactly. And Repubs can't possibly fault Biden for the Taliban's positive announcement regarding women's rights and other social issues even if it will be either according to Islamic Law or the Taliban's version of it.

I hear for the Taliban that means abortion is forbidden, gay marriage is forbidden, vaccines are forbidden, a rejection of science, no separation of church and state, religion taught in schools...need I go on?

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2593924]Oh, let me make it easier for you douche. When I saw Biden saying the Taliban were not going to take over Afghanistan, I had my GF turn off the TV because I could not listen to his bullshit.

When the Taliban overran Afghanistan, I was laughing at how you douches would be pointing fingers and sure enough, it is Trump's fault or partially Trump's fault because he did (fill in the blank) when Biden totally shit the bed on his own.

You and Eihtooms are such partisan Democratic that if a Democrat killed a 100 Republicans in cold blood, you two would find a way to blame the dead Republicans. That is what I am saying. Got it now?[/QUOTE]Afghanistan has zero strategic importance yet trillions of dollars were spent on it for what? Bush failed in Afghanistan to capture Bin Laden, there was no other purpose to be there. So what is your point. What difference does it make if the Taliban are in control? The money spent on fighting the Taliban would have been much more wisely spent on American health care or social services, even maintaining departments to monitor pandemic risks and implement action plans.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2593849]Right, because the vast amounts of electricity required to power those cars, and to make the batteries (which need to be replaced regularly) will be produced by. Rainbows and fluffy kittens.[/QUOTE]Not oil from Russia or the Middle East or do you like to hand your money over to people actively working against your interests!

Two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, four deviled eggs (all homemade), and two cartons of milk. Home ownership, strong unions, stat ay home wives, flourishing GI bill, mind blowing golden age of cimena, and that was the 50's, Ike. We also saw the inauguration of Civil Rights in highly courageous films like Giant, iconic and immortal. Look it up. The era was so good that it took a pale flunkie, Nixon with awful TV debate performances to thwart an essential third term by a hair, something that is most hard to do.

Afghanistan? Well, there's a principle few politicians understand. If you have an angry pitt bull by the ears, don't let go. It will be a black mark on the Biden legacy that conservatives will harp on to try and get back in power. There's already been positives. More positives and negatives are to come. Opponents will minimize or dismiss the former, while howling about that latter. That's politics.

That said hopefully we call all agree that two roast beef sandwiches, deviled eggs, pegan pie and fresh milk sound very good, and all for a hard working man. Wink.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2594328]Using this same logic, Chrisp thinks that it would be fine if willfully refusing a COVID vaccine would result in a COVID patient being refused medical treatment and also to pay for the medical expenses of all that he / she infected. "They knew the risks and it didn't include free medical care".[/QUOTE]No, that's not using the same logic. Or indeed any logic. But speaking of infecting people (with a disease that causes real harm) I will note that democrats have decriminalized knowingly passing on HIV in states they control. Probably because much of their base is already infected. Which would you rather contract. Covid or aids?