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Discussions about Spain as a mongering destination have come up here before. And as I have said in those discussions, Spain is my favorite country in Europe to visit, and second favorite just in terms of mongering (that top spot belongs to Germany). I love the people, the culture, the food, the climate, the music, and the language of Spain. The only area where Germany wins for me is with the sex LOL! But that said, Spain has many, many good options for the international, traveling monger.

Although Barcelona has several decent choices, I have to strongly agree with Shark16 that Barca doesn't offer the best that Spain has to offer in terms of mongering opportunities. A few years ago, I would have rated even Seville above Barcelona for mongering (not for "normal" tourism though). But, it seems that since then many of the best clubs in Seville have closed. Indeed, one must travel all around Spain to be able to hit the best spots.

In my opinion, the best locations for mongering around Spain today are in Madrid in the center of the country, the La Jonquera / Girona region in the northeast, and La Costa del Sol in the south with Malaga at the heart of the action there. Top clubs in Madrid include Flowers Park, Viva Madrid, Factory Air, and Whiskeria Estark at Hotel Diana Plus. Up north you have Club Paradise, Moonight, Club Lady's Dallas, and Gran Madams. The top club in Malaga is Scandalo, but there are many others. RTFF in the Spain threads for more info.

Oh, and PussyLiccker I hate to disappoint, but the clubs in Spain are full of Romanians just like in Germany! Yeah sure, you can find different types around, but my experience has been that the Romanians dominate the scene, just like in Germany. So, if you plan to go to Spain to have a go at exotic beauties you don't often find in Germany, then I think you will probably end up sadly disappointed. Don't get me wrong. I've had girls in Spain from countries such as Albania (Muslims with outstanding threesome including butt fucking), Morocco (outstanding butt fuck), Dominican Republic (another outstanding butt fuck), and Cuba (one of the hottest blonde girls I have ever butt fucked in my entire life as she looked like Fergie from the musical group The Black-Eyed Peas but with whiter skin). So if you do go to Spain, then expect to find mostly Romanians. I have a saying, which is that the Romanians are to Europe what the Colombians are to Latin America. Tutes!

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1785822]One thing about Brazil. Their currency declined by more than half in a year to 18 months. If the US punters think Germany is cheap now because Euro lost 20% of its value vs the dollar! The situation is much more favorable in Brazil. I don't know if that makes Brazil clubs that much cheaper now, or whether the locals raised the prices to compensate for their declining currency. Cane or other Latin aficionados can chime in. Sorry, this is not Brazil thread, but the topic came up below.[/QUOTE]The American Dollar is the strongest against the Brazilian Real that its ever been since I've been going to Brazil. Prices have risen in various sectors of the economy, but there are still plenty of good deals to be had, and especially when it comes to buying sex. To stay on top of this topic, RTFF in the Brazil threads. There's a thread over there called "Real vs Dollar and other currency issues". Check it out for the latest. Regarding visas, plenty have navigated that requirement without running into a lot of problems. And unless something has changed since I obtained my last Brazilian visa (they're good for 10 years), you have 90 days to travel from the time that you receive your visa, and not 30.

In any event, if you're an anal connoisseur like I am, then having a Brazilian tourist visa is one of your most valuable possessions! Rio de Janeiro is Heaven on this earth for the anal lover. As I have documented before, my LAA (Lifetime Anal Average) in Brazil is 70%. Meaning I have ass fucked a full 70% of the many, many, many tutes I have encountered in Brazil! No other land comes close. Not even Germany where my LAA is "only" 40%. I swear to God one day I could retire to Rio and butt fuck my life away all up in those fine young ladies LOL!

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1785903]Shark 16, if you really were old school you'd say DFK is always standard FKK service. The way you phrase it: tourist school. Such a shame this kind of crap is getting normal in any club that draws from a wider pool than just locals.[/QUOTE]Hey Dude,
I am not sure I understand what you are saying. In my book there is no big difference between saying that "DFK is a standard service" and that "competition is so strong that kissing and even DFK is considered standard". In both cases DFK is provided as a standard. I don't see the crap here. It's just polemics.

Anyways, this is how it was phrased among the seniors on ISG back in 2004 when I first entered the scene, I. E. That DFK was something that should be expected, but, while abnormal, a girl could refuse kissing if she was upfront with it. That is a far cry from reports one are reading today about kissing not being provided at all or being subject to extended time or at an extra cost. THAT is the crap as far as I am concerned.

But maybe a girl could not refuse kissing upfront in 2002 or 1999 or whatever? Fair enough.

Lots of questions, Liccker. I will answer where I can:

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1785733]Guys I talked to refer to Barcelona, but like you say. Perhaps they haven't explored enough to know the better places. I will look into Madrid and Malaga. What is particularly better about those places compared to places in Barcelona? Less Sharky girls?[/QUOTE]As I said I have never been myself, but word is a better selection of girls optically speaking.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1785733]it seems like these clubs start later at night compared to German clubs, no? So, I don't have a large window to check out multiple clubs I'm guessing.[/QUOTE]True. Most clubs are literally night clubs that open around 5 pm and won't start hopping before 8 or 10 pm and sometimes even later. Closes at 5 am. Some brothels are open 24/7. Some places are closed on Sundays. It pays to do some homework.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1785733]What makes Spain the best experience for you? Something about the girls you run into?[/QUOTE]I get the best mongering experience at the German FKK clubs. Spain is a good alternative when I want something different, like latinas. Spain is also easy accessable for me (just a short / cheap flight away). I take it this may not be the case for you. Also, I simply love being a tourist in Barcelona. It's a great city.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;1785757]I visited FKK Oceans last week (see report in relevant section of the forum) and was very impressed by the facilities. I know we go to clubs primarily for the girls but it is also nice to be pampered with great luxury in your surroundings.

My question then is which of the FKK clubs have the most luxurious facilities?[/QUOTE]Arguably Artemis. With new wing etc.

I thought this sketch was pretty funny. Enjoy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtI0ZN9kvVM[/URL]

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1786005]I thought this sketch was pretty funny. Enjoy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtI0ZN9kvVM[/URL][/QUOTE]What's funny is that those two losers think she's smoking hot. They obviously don't know about the FKKs of Germany or the sex clubs of Spain LOL!

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1786005]I thought this sketch was pretty funny. Enjoy.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtI0ZN9kvVM[/URL][/QUOTE]Hah, where do you find this? It reminds me of the similar story when we got some hot exchange students hah.

I'm now a full convert to thin polyurethane condoms (Sagami & Okamoto). My experience is that girls in FKK will at least accept to give these condoms a try while girls at more anonymous places will often refuse to do so. I guess acceptance of the client's condom is part of the better service girls give in FKK's on account of harsher competition. Not so long ago I was torn to pieces by white knights on a German forum (Lusthaus) for giving a bad rating to a Laufhaus girl who refused to service me unless we used her cheap bicycle rubber trojan instead of my 3-euro a piece Sagami.

Meanwhile I've noticed girls in some FKKs now remember me as the guy who brings his own very special "hard-to-put-on" condoms. They're a hassle to put on but once they're on they great to fuck with, and to be fucked with if some girls are to be believed. A few girls have shown interest in buying such condoms, citing as reason that "they feel like no condom". When asked if they didn't think those condoms were too expensive they said they wanted them "for private fun, not for work", whatever that entails.

Sagami condoms are available in Germany. They're marketed under licence by Billy Boy and sold in Real Supermarkets at 4 for 10 euros (slightly below the internet price).

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1784389]Wow. Girls recruit pimps. That's new for me.

HB.[/QUOTE]Recruitment of "bad boys" by working girls was described by Havelock Ellis if I remember right. Of course I realize most of us here know precious little about these matters compared to the only man here who really knows it all, ie Hessen Bub.

This being said, female victimhood is a hardy myth. It will raise its head everywhere. Men simply need to think of women as victims, even with men committing suicide ten times as often as women and homeless queues being entirely made up of men (let alone tens of thousands of men doing time for alimony delinquency and sleeping under bridges etc.).

There's quite a lot of exploitation going on in Europe but it's not in prostitution. It's in other industries (building, cleaning), where men are being trafficked, not women. My cleaning lady has a string of young chaps from her own native country she puts to work at 5 euros per hour. No one seems to mind.

No one seems to give a thought either to the many man-servants who work in FKKs. Next time you visit an FKK spare a thought for that poor chap handing out the towels (to girls who will do more in an hour than he does in a day).

How many girls have you seen beaten up by their boyfriends because they didn't bring home enough money from the club? Broken ribs, black and blue bruises all over body and legs, not able to work for weeks? I've seen a few.

I'm not claiming my truth to be the only truth. But your posts are cynical.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1786370]How many girls have you seen beaten up by their boyfriends because they didn't bring home enough money from the club? Broken ribs, black and blue bruises all over body and legs, not able to work for weeks? I've seen a few.

I'm not claiming my truth to be the only truth. But your posts are cynical.

HB.[/QUOTE]I've heard of two and seen one. Sad stories.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1786370]How many girls have you seen beaten up by their boyfriends because they didn't bring home enough money from the club? Broken ribs, black and blue bruises all over body and legs, not able to work for weeks? I've seen a few.

I'm not claiming my truth to be the only truth. But your posts are cynical.

HB.[/QUOTE]I agree with you, but as a french I call pimp what you call BF and usually they beat on arms and legs not to prevent from working their GF, they drive each day to be fucked all day, what they call "Love" . Girls say they fall, so often. In France, these private taxi drivers / pimp would be prosecuted, they are not men to treat women like this.

[QUOTE=XXL;1786283]Recruitment of "bad boys" by working girls was described by Havelock Ellis if I remember right. Of course I realize most of us here know precious little about these matters compared to the only man here who really knows it all, ie Hessen Bub.

This being said, female victimhood is a hardy myth. It will raise its head everywhere. Men simply need to think of women as victims, even with men committing suicide ten times as often as women and homeless queues being entirely made up of men (let alone tens of thousands of men doing time for alimony delinquency and sleeping under bridges etc.).

There's quite a lot of exploitation going on in Europe but it's not in prostitution. It's in other industries (building, cleaning), where men are being trafficked, not women. My cleaning lady has a string of young chaps from her own native country she puts to work at 5 euros per hour. No one seems to mind.

No one seems to give a thought either to the many man-servants who work in FKKs. Next time you visit an FKK spare a thought for that poor chap handing out the towels (to girls who will do more in an hour than he does in a day).[/QUOTE]Both female and male can be victim.

However, on our part, saddest victim of all is husbands who act as organic ATM for middle age women who claim house work is so hard LOL.

I mean what a hell is wrong with these guys who pay millions through out his life to support and have sex primarily with middle age no longer hot women LOL.

Love? Oh yeah, it is act of insanity and mental sickness that most of time do not last forever, when it does not women cash out with cash, men can cash out by giving out the cash, so without cash. Voila, there goes a most expansive mongering experience AKA marriage.

Men are victim as well.

[QUOTE=XXL;1786257]I'm now a full convert to thin polyurethane condoms (Sagami & Okamoto). My experience is that girls in FKK will at least accept to give these condoms a try while girls at more anonymous places will often refuse to do so. I guess acceptance of the client's condom is part of the better service girls give in FKK's on account of harsher competition. Not so long ago I was torn to pieces by white knights on a German forum (Lusthaus) for giving a bad rating to a Laufhaus girl who refused to service me unless we used her cheap bicycle rubber trojan instead of my 3-euro a piece Sagami.

Meanwhile I've noticed girls in some FKKs now remember me as the guy who brings his own very special "hard-to-put-on" condoms. They're a hassle to put on but once they're on they great to fuck with, and to be fucked with if some girls are to be believed. A few girls have shown interest in buying such condoms, citing as reason that "they feel like no condom". When asked if they didn't think those condoms were too expensive they said they wanted them "for private fun, not for work", whatever that entails.

Sagami condoms are available in Germany. They're marketed under licence by Billy Boy and sold in Real Supermarkets at 4 for 10 euros (slightly below the internet price).[/QUOTE]I used sagami before, but does it make all that difference? I do not remember as I did not concentrate that much while using it.