Seeking Arrangements

I have two in Europe. One in Netherlands and another in Spain. I would do that for. Amazing humans. Lovely girls. Just that naivety and innate ability to truat and see the good side of the world. There are couple more nice ones but they are poor in money management that they would waste whatever I give them.

4% overall sounds about right. But, unfortunately, none yet in the US. Girls are so materialistic here. Well, who am I to complain while I am on SA being pussyalistic! What goes around, comes around.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2789182]Funny you should mention that. If I can find a way to do it there are at least two girls I've been very close with on Seeking and would easily give them $10,000 upon my demise. They are just quality humans and I feel fortunate to have crossed paths with them, let alone in such an intimate way! Sorta independent of when even. Like 10 or 20 years from now. But prob tough to execute both in terms of will and staying in touch. But it says something about the quality of the girls you can find. Yes I am talking about only 4% of the girls I've dated. But still it says something I think. I'm not leaving a dime to any pro girl nor the other 96% (well another borderline one).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gfefan;2789828]I have two in Europe. One in Netherlands and another in Spain. I would do that for. Amazing humans. Lovely girls. Just that naivety and innate ability to truat and see the good side of the world. There are couple more nice ones but they are poor in money management that they would waste whatever I give them.

4% overall sounds about right. But, unfortunately, none yet in the US. Girls are so materialistic here. Well, who am I to complain while I am on SA being pussyalistic! What goes around, comes around.[/QUOTE]Both mine are US based surprisingly. Tho to be fair acquired some time ago. Alexa — Las Vegas of all places — from Dec 2019 — she's in tech customer support and makes candles and soaps on Etsy. And Shayla my current girl — from Jan 2022 and going strong. She's a chemist (no not meth!) and gaming enthusiast. Both these girls fit the "regular girl but with a spicy side" mold. Sue in London was brilliant while it lasted but she got boring and Kayla in Miami was same. They wouldn't quite make the cut but nice girls nonetheless.

P.S. I think DramaFree has been working the CDMX seeking game but now found some stateside. It's all right place right time. Nice girls don't stay on there long.

Just told another "race horse" that she could either accept $400 a PPM or go back on the site for the $500 she thinks she is worth. She agreed to continue at $400 PPM. Women are constantly trying to re-negotiate their terms, thinking they are worth more than they are. I have 2 others that would take her place for less, although I did not tell her about my other girls in my stable.

[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;2789851]Just told another "race horse" that she could either accept $400 a PPM or go back on the site for the $500 she thinks she is worth. She agreed to continue at $400 PPM. Women are constantly trying to re-negotiate their terms, thinking they are worth more than they are. I have 2 others that would take her place for less, although I did not tell her about my other girls in my stable.[/QUOTE]After I have been with someone a bunch of times, I sometimes tell them that I lost my job and I cannot see them anymore or as much. Sometimes, the girl has become so comfortable with me that they continue seeing me for free (but on occasion, I may still help them out). Doesn't last that long though, because eventually they need the money. I only do this with gals that I am okay with never seeing again.

Perhaps the greatest that I ever had was with a totally crazy pyscho *****. Wow she was fantastic in the sack. I wonder if there is a causality. I have been with other crazies that were also very good in the sack.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2789195]Yeah, I am tired of this. There have been a few women I saw too that were totally trustworthy. 96% is not the same as 100%.

On the borderline part, I got fooled a lot in the past. The main thing guys need to know is when they argue about something completely absurd. One borderline was convinced that her baby's autism was due to the father. When I said the cause of autism is unknown, she got mad and crazy. She screamed, "It is his fault he is autistic. What is wrong with you?" The instinct is to run from crazy which means the borderline feels even worse as you are abandoning them. What I know now is challenging borderlines on facts like what causes autism is totally wrong. When you have a woman like this, you say nothing and leave. Arguing with them works to their advantage. Their goal is to show the world they are not crazy, and you are.

And leaving is what most often makes them crazy. I had one woman, a super hot Mexican lawyer, go down to a bar late at night alone. I said I did not feel like going but she was free to go on her own. An hour later, she returns and says frantically, "You left me at the bar!" Borderlines are freaked out about abandonment. If you have a woman freak out about that, then just leave. A friend of mine said she thought the Mexican lawyer was borderline, and I realized she was right. As soon as I realized that, I axed that women from my life and never saw her again.

FWIW, I think borderlines are above average attractive and above average in bed. They also can swoon over your words and put you on a pedestal and because of all this, they can be very attractive to us men and suck us into their crazy.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2790928]After I have been with someone a bunch of times, I sometimes tell them that I lost my job and I cannot see them anymore or as much. Sometimes, the girl has become so comfortable with me that they continue seeing me for free (but on occasion, I may still help them out). Doesn't last that long though, because eventually they need the money. I only do this with gals that I am okay with never seeing again.[/QUOTE]Holy crap that's diabolical and brilliant.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2791040]Holy crap that's diabolical and brilliant.[/QUOTE]Funny, I have used that same exact strategy before. I was paying for the rent of this visiting South American student! Told her I was losing my job and couldn't afford that short stay luxury apartment I was paying for. So she offered to move in! Haha. She stayed for 5 more months before her visa expired and she returned home.

[QUOTE=FishMongerC;2791894]Funny, I have used that same exact strategy before. I was paying for the rent of this visiting South American student! Told her I was losing my job and couldn't afford that short stay luxury apartment I was paying for. So she offered to move in! Haha. She stayed for 5 more months before her visa expired and she returned home.[/QUOTE]I was on Reddit the other day reading a thread among sugar babies.

One girl mentioned she was offered a situation where she moved in and does all the household Maintnenance. Pick up the kids, do the shopping, etc. Plus intimacy of course.

Guy offered her 80-100 k a year.

The thread totally shot that down. Sour sloots. Said things like those are each 75 k / year jobs so you should be getting 75 x5 k.

Besides the fact that's a stupid argument, I actually thought it was a pretty good deal.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2792298]I was on Reddit the other day reading a thread among sugar babies.

One girl mentioned she was offered a situation where she moved in and does all the household Maintnenance. Pick up the kids, do the shopping, etc. Plus intimacy of course.

Guy offered her 80-100 k a year.

The thread totally shot that down. Sour sloots. Said things like those are each 75 k / year jobs so you should be getting 75 x5 k.

Besides the fact that's a stupid argument, I actually thought it was a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]I actually met someone who claimed she had a friend enter into a similar agreement. She described her friend as getting scammed. Since there was no contract, she had nothing legally binding. While he did give her money, it wasn't even half that claimed. Meanwhile her friend was trapped, she had given up her own place of residence so was trapped there until she found the means to get out. She stayed with him for about 1 month before realizing it wasn't living up to her expectations.

I think 80 k - 100 k a year is a pretty good deal for the girl, especially if tax free. Even better deal for the guy tho!! At my peak I was paying out about 2 K a week anyway for a few months.

Here's some up-to-date guidance. Take it for what it's worth and use it (or not) as you see fit:

[URL]https://sugar-place.com/daddy-guides/sugar-baby-allowance/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;2792974]Here's some up-to-date guidance. Take it for what it's worth and use it (or not) as you see fit:

[URL]https://sugar-place.com/daddy-guides/sugar-baby-allowance/[/URL][/QUOTE]I appreciate your sharing, but I'm suspicious about the contact on that site. Totally understand you're not the one who wrote it.

It says in LA typical monthly is 5500/ mo but PPM is more like 500-1000? Doesn't make sense. Monthly is an awful deal then.

Also rates the different sites and Seeking is not mentioned at all? Not at all? The 800 lb gorilla? This seems clearly written by a competitor of theirs.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2793080]I appreciate your sharing, but I'm suspicious about the contact on that site. Totally understand you're not the one who wrote it.

It says in LA typical monthly is 5500/ mo but PPM is more like 500-1000? Doesn't make sense. Monthly is an awful deal then.

Also rates the different sites and Seeking is not mentioned at all? Not at all? The 800 lb gorilla? This seems clearly written by a competitor of theirs.[/QUOTE]That's why I said take it for what it's worth and use it as you see fit. Just one measuring stick.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2792298]Said things like those are each 75 k / year jobs so you should be getting 75 x5 k.

Besides the fact that's a stupid argument,[/QUOTE]I agree. The Golden pussy syndrome in the USA is out of control.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;2792298]I was on Reddit the other day reading a thread among sugar babies.

One girl mentioned she was offered a situation where she moved in and does all the household Maintnenance. Pick up the kids, do the shopping, etc. Plus intimacy of course.

Guy offered her 80-100 k a year.
I actually thought it was a pretty good deal.[/QUOTE]Financially, I agree, but I have mixed business and pleasure, and it really does not work. Once a woman is fucking you, she honestly does not think that she is required to do anything else. Guys need to separate their sex life from their home life IMO.

I think you get a nanny / maid and a sugar baby and keep it separate.

But really the best deal is having a job where you can work remotely or travel abroad and have such a set up for 1/5 the price. Granted, you have to work out the kids issue so maybe a nanny here and SB abroad.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2792974]Here's some up-to-date guidance. Take it for what it's worth and use it (or not) as you see fit:

[URL]https://sugar-place.com/daddy-guides/sugar-baby-allowance/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the link. Depends on if the fuck is any good. I have one now who is a dead fish and only wants me to satisfy her. Going to fail to respond to her.

Standard (4-6 hours).

All above mentioned.

Sexual interaction.

$400-$700 $250-$500.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2792974]Here's some up-to-date guidance. Take it for what it's worth and use it (or not) as you see fit:

[URL]https://sugar-place.com/daddy-guides/sugar-baby-allowance/[/URL][/QUOTE]Written as click bait to garner the attention of female readers.

There is no such thing as a standard or average price. It's just too variable to to what a girl will do.