Ventured into Beer Garden. Has gone down drastically in terms of quantity and quality. Where is the day time action at?
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Ventured into Beer Garden. Has gone down drastically in terms of quantity and quality. Where is the day time action at?
[QUOTE=Catire;2266369]The quality on tap at Nana car lot is for the severely blueballed only.[/QUOTE]IMO the NPL area gets a bit of a bad rap. What day and time you check it out makes a considerable difference. Prime times would be Friday / Saturday night from sundown till about midnight. If you go Tuesday afternoon then yes expect a limited and poor selection. And of course if you cross the street to NP you will find much higher quality ladies. But that are different P4 P market segment for several reasons.
SL.
I am a regular poster and senior member. I hate to ask this but I am in a bind. I have very poor access to WiFi and internet in general for the next two days. I arrive in BKK in 2 days and I have one night! I usually don't ask for help wit kit searching but BKK is extensive and with bad internet I am not making much progress. Can anyone recommend one or two good incall FS places. Massage parlors or otherwise with FS. Prefer Nuru but good looking girl and FS is more important than Nuru.
You can tell from my past reports that I am not a leecher. I will report back for sure. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2266463]I am a regular poster and senior member. I hate to ask this but I am in a bind. I have very poor access to WiFi and internet in general for the next two days. I arrive in BKK in 2 days and I have one night! I usually don't ask for help wit kit searching but BKK is extensive and with bad internet I am not making much progress. Can anyone recommend one or two good incall FS places. Massage parlors or otherwise with FS. Prefer Nuru but good looking girl and FS is more important than Nuru.
You can tell from my past reports that I am not a leecher. I will report back for sure. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Read this! I can’t PM it to you as your PM is full and you need to delete some messages before you can receive more PMs.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2252635]So many debates and so many questions in my PMs and the Bangkok thread, I thought I would put together my take as a kind of newbie guide for mongers on where and how to find girls in BKK.
With the digital world taking over and the ladies continually glued to their phones, there is no doubt that it is the best place to find P4P. I will start with Craigs List. CL no longer has their traditional categories for mongering. The providers are now posting in the beauty section, services section and any other section for that matter. This is my least favorite option as there is a lot bullshit to weed through and the ladies are less than reliable. I personally prefer We Chat, Badoo, Thai Friendly, Bee Talk, Scout/Meet Me, Thai Joop, Facebook, and Tinder..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JakeBrown6661;2266421]Ventured into Beer Garden. Has gone down drastically in terms of quantity and quality. Where is the day time action at?[/QUOTE]Your next best option is soi 4 where all the Hillary bars are along with Morning night. Also the massage shops all open at 10:00 and by noon to 14:00 most of the girls will have arrived. Also you can find freelancers on We Chat and Thai Friendly that will do house calls to your home, condo, or hotel. Tons of daytime action.
As thanks to contributors of good info on this site, I report my experiences, hoping they will be helpful to my brothers out there. All 4 girls I asked about recommending them said yes happily and spelled their names to make sure I got it right. Each was also happy when I told them a friend (you out there) had recommended her.
I read many pages of the Thailand forums. While not dense in useful info, it is easy to spot the good stuff and some of the chit chat is entertaining. This helped me formulate my plan. I only had parts of 3 nights and one and a half days. While the thought of taking a street girl or bar fining a go go girl was exciting and I saw good candidates when there, I was going to have so few 'at bats' that I decided to go with recommendations herein that were what I wanted. I envy you guys who live here and have the time to work the gogos, street girls, dating sites and find the good cheap ones, but I had to have my 4-5 shots be good ones.
I ended up going to one BJ, and 4 massage places (Doki Doki, Tulip, Eden, Analisa, reports in the massage forums). I also put a hotels post in the hotel forum.
I learned how to say Hello, and thank you in Thai because I find most people appreciate that. The girls, receptionists, waiters all spoke enough English to get by and there are hand signals for everything. One girl even spoke as well as I!
I say girls but you know I mean women, young women who accept and seem to like what they do, and I guess they would rather do this than a regular job because the money is better. I treat them well, compliment them, and tip them. Human kindness.
As for cost, the most I spent was 5000 be (2 girls at Eden including tip). That is $152 USD. Where I live, that is 6 lap dances with me not touching and me fully clothed. I didn't want to go home with regrets, so I decided what I wanted and am happy I could afford the splurge.
Arrived BKK at 2230, got baht at an ATM, took taxi to hotel (I liked the taxi take a number system), in room by 2330. It was fast and less than 500 be. I wanted to take the trains for less than 100 be but didn't want to get stranded at the midnight train closing time.
I figured I would be tired from the trip so chose a BJ bar for my first visit. Was going to go to Afterskool for the thrill of an in-bar BJ but they close at 2400, so chose Duangporn's Haven at 6/12 Sukhumvit Rd 9:30 am 1:00 am 800 be for BBBJ, GPS 13.735671, 100.560745 (google street view is outdated), just behind the cute Asoke Bar which is on google maps. Arrived 0030, as I came into view, a beautiful gal stood, shoulder length black hair, reminded me of a US TV star I can't name right now, went right in with her without really looking at any of the 6 others. She was happy, friendly and spoke good enough English. I asked deep throat, she grabbed my dick to measure and said sure, kindly not laughing and saying "who couldn't". Led me upstairs to a room with a shower curtain door, bed, and a chair. Had me undress, put a skirt around me, led me to shower area, cleaned my junk which would probably have done the job had she continued, dried me, let me back. Next time I would take my money with me as it laid there untended, no problem but why risk? BBBJ was good. Some DT but not a lot, I didn't ask for more. She worked hard to get me off (I am old) and may have swallowed, don't remember if she spit or not as I was blessed. Would repeat, forgot to ask her name.
Walking back to hotel, went down Soi Cowboy for first time, lots of girls outside the clubs, but I wanted to go to Crazy House (google maps). Most girls on Cowboy were skinny and pretty flat chested. I kind of enjoyed them grabbing me and trying to pull me in but too blatant. I went in a few later on but they were usually empty, but did see one girl dancing in one that made me say wow but I stupidly didn't try to buy her a drink to see what would happen. The sexiest girls along Cowboy were the ladyboys at Cockatoo. Had they been out grabbing, I might have gone in for a drink just for the experience.
Crazy House. I love this place so much I ended up going all 3 possible nights. Just because junior is done for the day doesn't mean I have to be. For 5 usd, you can sip a beer and watch a stage full of beauties move around sexily to music, most of them nude, some with tops and tiny skirts with no thong. There were 2 shifts of 20 girls each, nice variety from shy to wild, tiny tits to enhanced, I only saw 1 chubby girl. If you sit at the bar, a forest of beautiful calves is at eye level. Tilt your head for pussies, and a little more for tits and faces. Sit against the walls for a bit more distant view. First time, a naked girl came up and asked me to buy her a drink. She sat on my lap for a while and we talked some over the way too loud music, I had my arm around her and she said "you can touch". To save you newbies some time, here is what I figured out. Wish I had more time to refine. Don't wait to be asked. Some walk by when not dancing so if you like, just wave or touch an arm and they will be yours unless they are headed for someone. What I liked to do was find one I liked dancing and make eye contact. If she smiled, it meant she was willing. Point to your beer and wave her over and she will nod yes and when the 5 song set is over she will come over and start chatting, all spoke enough English to have a nice little talk while she lets you feel her tits and pussy; go slow so she can stop you if she wants. A waitress will come over and you buy a lady drink, a shot of tequila I think and a chaser for 330 be. So for under 500, 15 usd, including a tip for the waitress and 100 for the girl if I liked her, you get a nice time with a beauty and she gets a drink and a piece of paper good for a cut of the drink cost I hope. The hard parts are choosing which one and deciding to buy her another drink or to go on to another girl. I preferred the nude ones but ended up with more of the little dresses because they seemed to make better eye contact. Once, as soon as I sat on a stool, a tiny thin girl jumped between my legs and immediately put my had on her pussy. I of course bought her a drink and when I would take my hand away, she would put it back! Each girl or the waitress asked if I wanted to bar fine. I think it was 700 be plus the girl's price, and go upstairs or out. I always had to say no but only one girl kept at the hard sell and I just told her to go away. But every few minutes I would look at all those legs and think you lucky bastard.
I wanted to do an escort. Sugar at absolute-angels-Bangkok was #1 until I realized it was physically impossible for those boobs to be that big and point straight out like that and not be photoshopped. Hope I wasn't wrong! Also saw some girls I wanted on smooci but it didn't work out, I posted my thoughts to the smooci forum.
Very happy with each of the girls I went with. Glad I'm not as critical as some of you guys, who seem unhappy with anyone but their ideal fantasy babe, who if they found her would probably charge them thousands per hour. I hope you find her. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the looks and talent I found was a lot better than I expected from reading this forum. Glad I ignored most of that and concentrated on the positive reviews. Thanks in part to ISG, it was a great trip, only wish I could stay all winter so I could contribute reviews of other places and girls.
[QUOTE=Vitrea;2266463]I arrive in BKK in 2 days and I have one night! [/QUOTE]
Hard to say, Bangkok is the oriental city and as we all know it time flies and the world is your oyster. These should help you out [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnqj31VPNoE[/URL] also check this one out as well [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfB_K4RGtDo[/URL].
[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2266462]IMO the NPL area gets a bit of a bad rap. What day and time you check it out makes a considerable difference. Prime times would be Friday / Saturday night from sundown till about midnight. If you go Tuesday afternoon then yes expect a limited and poor selection. And of course if you cross the street to NP you will find much higher quality ladies. But that are different P4 P market segment for several reasons.
SL.[/QUOTE]To be fair, my reporting / observations consisted of times from 1 am to 3 am on various nights / mornings.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2266410]I have probably been with 100 girls named Noi.[/QUOTE]In that case you should have done 10 Naams by now.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2266385] In addition, a gal with a 4 month old child having to hustle? Man, I just can't take that type anymore. [/QUOTE]What type is that? Poor education? Not incredibly smart?
How does the girl support her child when the father is probably not interested? Abortion is against their religion, and many could just not go through with it.
Many girls are able to convince themselves to be a hooker for the necessity to support the child (and possibly other family members). Is that somehow worse than a young non-mother willing to be a hooker? Why look down on them?
I know one very low education girl currently working long hours as a waitress or food seller at night for 10K per month. She has to pay room rental (almost half of the 10K) and send some money home for the child. She would probably rather work as an MP hooker if she was able (unfortunately she is not a Thai citizen and there is a crackdown on non-thais with raids these days). The MP money per month is better.
What type is she? Pretty, good slim body, very low education (very poor background), prone to migraines, no husband evident now (he left). Wants to find a way to support herself and the child adequately.
The very thing that originally allowed Thai hookers to be very cheap, was the lack of viable earning alternatives for them and the need for them to do some freelance to supplement the money they had, even if they had a "normal" daytime job. Freelancers on the street can still be cheap for these reasons.
Would you think these girls had a huge amount saved away that could support themselves and a child for a long time? Makes no sense really.
So the question remains how come these young girls have to get pregnant mostly to some young Thai boy that does not give a shit in reality. Probably could not force him to use condoms. ha ha. All birth control methods are fallible. That is why western girl abortion rates are high even for teenagers.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2266569]In that case you should have done 10 Naams by now.[/QUOTE]Not only have I not done 10, I have only met 1. However, for sure I have done over 10 girls named Tukta, Porn, Ae, Bee, Joy, Nut, May, Nan, and others over the years. That being said, I have only spent a few weeks in Thailand in the last 5 years. Prior to that, I spent a ton of time in Bangkok. Is Nam a newly popular Thai bargirl nickname? The girl I met named Nam was recent. Then again, none of those nicknames are the girl's real names.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2266572]What type is that? Poor education? Not incredibly smart?
How does the girl support her child when the father is probably not interested? Abortion is against their religion, and many could just not go through with it.
Many girls are able to convince themselves to be a hooker for the necessity to support the child (and possibly other family members). Is that somehow worse than a young non-mother willing to be a hooker? Why look down on them?
I know one very low education girl currently working long hours as a waitress or food seller at night for 10K per month. She has to pay room rental (almost half of the 10K) and send some money home for the child. She would probably rather work as an MP hooker if she was able (unfortunately she is not a Thai citizen and there is a crackdown on non-thais with raids these days). The MP money per month is better.
What type is she? Pretty, good slim body, very low education (very poor background), prone to migraines, no husband evident now (he left). Wants to find a way to support herself and the child adequately.
The very thing that originally allowed Thai hookers to be very cheap, was the lack of viable earning alternatives for them and the need for them to do some freelance to supplement the money they had, even if they had a "normal" daytime job. Freelancers on the street can still be cheap for these reasons.
Would you think these girls had a huge amount saved away that could support themselves and a child for a long time? Makes no sense really.
So the question remains how come these young girls have to get pregnant mostly to some young Thai boy that does not give a shit in reality. Probably could not force him to use condoms. ha ha. All birth control methods are fallible. That is why western girl abortion rates are high even for teenagers.[/QUOTE]Most of the issues that you list are reasons not to get pregnant. Abortion? Available for almost no cost in Bangkok. Birth control is readily available without a script. Poor education? Not incredibly smart? Well, there you have it. And both of those are a real turn off to me. In fact, no matter how great looking a gal is, when she opens her mouth and complete drivel comes out; I'm just not interested. Sorry, smarts matter. Smarter gals are better lays as well. They understand seduction, eroticism, know to monitor and adjust to their customer's needs, and can get inside your head and really figure out what turns their client on. Now, we have many discussions about price here. Do I expect this from a 25 USD hooker? No. But if I'm paying 100 USD plus in a city where the average monthly income is 800 USD a month, then your damn skippy I expect a lot. A cute farmer's daughter with a po-6 or mo-3 education who thinks just spreading the legs is good enough, well, isn't good enough. I think with more opportunity for even less educated gals in Thailand now, the P4P industry (especially the GoGo) scene is really getting the bottom of the barrel. When most open their mouths, my sex drive plummets. I would think that the gals with any smarts whatsoever are online, not in GoGos, MPs, or the freelance hangouts. It really makes no sense for them to work those venues if they have any sense at all. Online allows them to be their own boss and manage their own affairs and time. That shows some initiative a bit of creativity.
I mean really, would you be interested in a gal with a 6th grade education who got knocked up at 15 or 16, and had the kid in your home nation?
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2266593] Abortion? Available for almost no cost in Bangkok. [/QUOTE]I have no idea if safe abortion is available for low cost, nor how safe it is. Not really completely relevant. It is not legal, I believe. Abortion operators get arrested and jailed from time to time.
Anyway the point is Thai girls pregnant do not get abortions at same percentage rate as western girls. It is against their religion and principals. They cannot kill the unborn child, possibly fearing the bad Karma, going to hell, or being reincarnated in the next life as a low animal with incredible hardship. I can't be expert in their thinking, but have been informed by several that abortion was not a viable option for their principals.
How come so many young hookers do not get an abortion? They just cannot agree to it. Here in lies a large risk attached to bareback sex. Other birth control methods fail. e.g. the Bo at Cherry just mentioned in another thread used birth control. It failed. She never intended to have babies.
Level of education has not been a factor for me, when doing P4P girls. I don't need them for advanced scientific conversation, and even my past western Mrs would have no clues if I started discussing details of my work. She did not get knocked up at 16 but her sister did and that sister had an abortion. It happens, maybe a lot more than most think.
Actually horny girls are preferable for me. My ex Farang Mrs was a mistake, still a virgin when I met her. That was a really bad idea. Would have been better of with a horny girl into sex.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2266579]However, for sure I have done over 10 girls named Tukta, Porn, Ae, Bee, Joy, Nut, May, Nan, and others over the years. That being said, I have only spent a few weeks in Thailand in the last 5 years. Prior to that, I spent a ton of time in Bangkok. Is Nam a newly popular Thai bargirl nickname? The girl I met named Nam was recent. Then again, none of those nicknames are the girl's real names.[/QUOTE]The frequency of Naam is really not much less than the other names you listed. Actually more frequent than Bee, I suspect. It is just a fluke you did not meet more of them. Could be a fluke that I only met two or 3 Bees. One was a GF of sorts. I also met though "Pheung" which means Bee. Tuk is actually more common than Tukata, perhaps used more in older generation. Had a short term GF Tuk also at one time.
I have done all the names you list but probably not to 10 times unless we count repeats of the same girls as multiples. Tuk, Porn, Bee, Nut, too numerous to be countable repeats of same girl.
Naam has been relatively popular since 1991 (my first trip to Thailand with a chance to meet girls), not a newly popular name at all, and of course nothing at all to do with bars or hookers. Just generally common.
Yes we can say these names are their short nicknames. Not official first names which tend to be 3 syllables (commonly). Nicknames are also used since birth, but the girl can change them if they are not that keen on the original nickname. So they can have more than one.
One Naam I knew well was originally called Noi, it seems, but there were too many Nois amongst the relatives, so she changed to Naam. A Thai girl would not be called Water though, or American style WOR-DER. Naam sounds much better.
Back in 1991, the most common Thai nickname was Lek I believe, however it seems to have gone out of fashion, hardly meet any young Leks anymore.
[QUOTE=Smoothy;2266410]I have probably been with 100 girls named Noi.[/QUOTE]I used to get a lot of Nois and Leks about 10 years ago. I haven't met a Noi in quite some time.