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[QUOTE=CrazyStick;2972139]I have been to Pattya few times and this is the first time visiting Pattaya on June. Is this the off season? Is that raining season?
Let me know pros and cons of visiting during off season?[/QUOTE]Another issue when people post Khrap.
Low season is not that much different from High season.
Rainy season might be an issue. It does rain. Hahaha.
New years might be an issue. It actually is Busy.
Last night at OnShore soi 6 I saw the biggest Tower Bought.
Looks Impressive and expensive. I'm Happy people were supporting the Bar. Hahaha.
I just returned from a great week in Pattaya.
I am dark skinned Indian who lives in the USA.
When I visited Bangkok about 20 years ago discrimination by gals in clubs was huge.
I found discrimination to be equally high at SOI 6 clubs in Pattaya. I was NOT welcomed as I walked down Soi 6 like the white guys were warmly welcomed. This was very hurtful and made me resent Soi 6.
Fortunately there was far less discrimination on beach road.
I was able to have great sessions at reasonable prices from gals on beach road. 800 bhat / HR or 1200 Bhat for 2 hrs.
I am interested in sensual experience. Not just F'ing.
What I did not like about 'short time' service on beach road is that most would not agree to the entire hour being my time. They kept saying 'one shot' and they are done.
What I want it the full hour is mine, start with play time for the first 30 minutes before serious sex and most of the good looking gals on beach road would not accept that.
But enough cuties accepted it that I ultimately had a great time. After struggling to find the ones that agree to my terms.
Prices less than half what I normally pay in Tijuana. So prices in Pattaya are great to my usual stomping ground.
Will only return as a stopover between India and USA. Would not make the trip from USA. Too far!
I loved the beach and beach scene in Pattaya. And the fact that it is lit up at night is awesome and makes Pattaya very very special.
So, I may seriously consider retiring in Pattaya.
[QUOTE=Boyo544;2971561]Hi all,
Long time reader, first time poster.
I used to frequent Thailand a lot a decade ago, and I'm looking to go again next March.
I'm liking what I see about Thai friendly. And I'm looking to pick up a girl for a three day stint in a decent resortish hotel with poolside bar in Pattaya.
I've seen a lot of advice about TF and will be looking to be direct and clear in my initial communication.
To this end, can you please advise if any of my requests or message below would be received well by TF girls or would be non-starters?
- A recent STD test report in English the price to be covered by me.
- A list of requests including nuru massage and anal play.
- A request that the girls be active and energetic and not starfish.
- For pricing, bed and board for three nights, 1500 bht per day plus a tip of 1500 if the three day stint goes well.
(price seems reasonable as it is entering the off-season).
Thanks guys. Let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]Wahhhhahahahahaa.
This is the funniest thing I seen in a long time.
1500 a day for a dame with prescribed services and VDRL test. I have been to Pattaya few weeks back and TF was only app I used to get what I want, after a lot of chatting and aksing what I wanted and a young good looking girl I paid 2500 for first night as I wanted to try it out and once I liked, negotiated for 2 more days in Jomtien beach resort for 4 k per night, after a hard talking to more then 10-12 odd girls I think I paid a fair prices. This is my guess.
[QUOTE=Boyo544;2971536]Hi all,
Long time reader. First time poster.
I frequented Thailand a decade ago, so although I know the score, can you give me a few pointers on TF.
I'm heading there again in early March.
A lot of good TF advice in these pages, and in accordance with the same advice, I'm not going to beat about the Bush. I'll make my requests up front & clear.
I plan to pick up a TF chick for a 3-night stint in a decent resortish hotel in Pattaya.
Would the following be realistic requests to ask in a first contact message to them on TF?
- 100% women only.
- take a standard STD test in advance with printout in English (I can pay for it. Obvs only for all-clear ones 😜.
- list of requests (eg Nuru massage, anal play).
- thinking of proposing bed & board and 1,500 BHT per day with a 1500 bht tip after the 3 days predicated on how they met my requests.
(entering off-season is helping dictate pricing here).
- energetic & active in bed. Not starfish.
Basically I want to know would the above frighten off the younger chicks or are they non-runners?
Any advice appreciated.
Thanks all.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2972264]They might be expecting 1500 but there are some that accept 1000-1200 as well. They try the higher prices but will likely accept lower prices. Its not like there are drowes of guys paying every women 2 k for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]It's 1 hour, why do you talk about 30 minute?
Hello.
I'm in Pattaya next week to plan a bachelor trip for a friend, on a sort of recce.
We will be about 12 guys coming for 4-5 days sometime in Feb, and since I was in the region mid-January, I thought I'll pop over to pattaya and do a little bit of exploring so that we can plan a proper trip.
Initially, I tried to find any agency etc which can do a full itinerary for us, including all exotic and erotic activities but could not really find anyone.
So just wanted to ask, if you'll could recommend the best couple of places for.
A. Normal Massages.
Be. Soapy / Nuru Massages.
See. BJ Bars.
The. Discos where we may take a girl previously booked.
E. gogo bars where we can have good drinks and then take girls.
F. service which can send girls to our villa on the days we want to party indoors only.
While we're not looking for top shelf, we're neither looking at the bottom of the barrel. Value-for-money would be our ideal.
I've read tons of reports, but its all over the place so I felt like asking straight off.
Thanks for the help in advance.
Landed in Pattaya on the 24th, installed TF, and boom—90 matches in a day! Never felt so validated in my life. Took a shot with a baddie, Frah (24 F, Chiang Mai).
She seemed cool, quoted 2200 for LT, and genuinely down.
Things got disappointing as she kept postponing our meet-up from 10 PM to 11 to 12 because of a friend's mental breakdown (Pattaya vibes, I guess? Finally, we planned to meet outside Lucifer Go-Go. She suggested I come inside to join her and her friends. Big red flag popped in my head: "Am I about to fund a friend's drinks festival?" Politely noped out of that and asked if she still wanted to hang solo.
Fast forward: We're at at a motel recommended by her. She's shy but cool. First round was ahem brief, and let's just say Johnny didn't pack a raincoat. She laughed, "Why you guys never use condom?" I hit her with the classic: "I like it raw. ".
Then came the highlight: The massage. Turns out she's a masseuse by day, and boy, did she deliver. Tiny but mighty—my back's never felt better. Post-massage? Reels, horror Thai shows, and sleep (her on her phone, me snoring like a champ).
5 AM: Woke up with Johnny saluting like Burj Khalifa. Round two? Cardio king mode activated. Finished strong 40-45 minutes. Multiple positions, CIM. Slept till 9 then said our goodbyes, and walked out feeling like the protagonist of an action movie.
Damages:
LT: 2200 + 100 tip.
Room: 600.
Cab: 200.
People thinks that taking a girl "on vacation" (theirs, the punter), adding food and accommodation will lead to them to accept a minimal fee.
This might work on 5% of the cases. Girls picked up from TF or alikes are there to mak money, not holidays, so the majority looks for money (to spend for herself or send back to the family). It's the punter commodity to have her around full time and so take her along wherever he wants to spend his time.
There will be also other side spendings, as the girls like shopping when a farang is involved. They see it as a child ave to access something she dreams of and she will jump on the opportunity: bags, shoes.
So the whole picture described in the plan (looks like a business plan, a professional project) seems quite disillusioned to me.
[QUOTE=KrumeLurer;2972263]If he really looks for it then he might find a women from 35 and up that might agree to that. She gets a trip and vacation as well. Thais themselves pay women in that age 1500 for a night. Might even be 1000 in some parts of Thailand. And don't make it sound like all women on beach road or pattayas bars are drowning in customers. This is not the case. There are proberbly some women that will be happy to take his offer. But most likely not a younger and cuter one.[/QUOTE]The question is not if he can find it, the question is at what cost. What WG is he willing to accept at that price point and how long is he willing to look for it? He can find it at beer bars but beer bars are still countless.
In my experience, only 1% of WGs are even worth having sex with so a good portion of you visit is just hunting. Let a lone agreeing to multiple days.
Hell, many mongers have even periodically gotten sex for free from freelancers (I've done it, many others have done it, some women like to do it to get you in a long term relationship), but that doesn't mean we want it. I didn't fly all the way to thailand to fuck the same WGs I did on my last trip.
Yesterday, I had a girl at soi 6. I would call her a solid 7. Better looking than many in the soi, but nothing special. The session was good too. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions. Good but nothing special. This is why I would expect her to charge more or less the going rate. We didn't discuss money before we went upstairs. After the session I've gave her 1500. But she asked for 2000. Because she seemed so certain and asked so naturally that I didn't try to negotiate and just paid her. To me it seems that 2000 is now the going rate, at least for the decent looking girls.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2972411]People thinks that taking a girl "on vacation" (theirs, the punter), adding food and accommodation will lead to them to accept a minimal fee.[/QUOTE]They will. The girls know the pay in Thailand. It is the punters that come in and think 1500 baht is small money, but it is a lotta bit to Thais. None of them are sending 100,000 baht home per month. A normal job pays like 10,000.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2972411]There will be also other side spendings, as the girls like shopping when a farang is involved. They see it as a child ave to access something she dreams of and she will jump on the opportunity: bags, shoes.[/QUOTE]I beg to differ. That is always the foreigner's idea, not the girls'. You know how many chicks have told me about foreigners forcing iphones on them? 20 years of going to Thailand and I have never had a chick ask me to buy her shit except food.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;2972411]So the whole picture described in the plan (looks like a business plan, a professional project) seems quite disillusioned to me.[/QUOTE]I think the plan is easy, except he needs to have boots on the gound and meet someone he clicks with to do it. Not just go around to random people online with his checklist.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2972445]They will. The girls know the pay in Thailand. It is the punters that come in and think 1500 baht is small money, but it is a lotta bit to Thais. None of them are sending 100,000 baht home per month. A normal job pays like 10,000.
I beg to differ. That is always the foreigner's idea, not the girls'. You know how many chicks have told me about foreigners forcing iphones on them? 20 years of going to Thailand and I have never had a chick ask me to buy her shit except food.
I think the plan is easy, except he needs to have boots on the gound and meet someone he clicks with to do it. Not just go around to random people online with his checklist.[/QUOTE]I pay 2000 LT for relatively short periods of time.
I pay 1000 a day for for multi-week periods.
In between, I pay on a sliding scale, maybe 10,000 a week.
I don't take the lady shopping, except in emergencies. One time, a lady's cell phone died in Argentina, and I bought her a cheap Samsung.
[QUOTE=Safado70;2972439]Yesterday, I had a girl at soi 6. I would call her a solid 7. Better looking than many in the soi, but nothing special. The session was good too. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions. Good but nothing special. This is why I would expect her to charge more or less the going rate. We didn't discuss money before we went upstairs. After the session I've gave her 1500. But she asked for 2000. Because she seemed so certain and asked so naturally that I didn't try to negotiate and just paid her. To me it seems that 2000 is now the going rate, at least for the decent looking girls.[/QUOTE]Price should always be discussed with the girl before going upstairs with her.
Not all the girls are quoting the same price, and at this period, they are charging more than in low season.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2972510]18 months plus of being posted up in Pattaya and I have not had a girl ask me to buy her anything. In general it is not something I have found that Thai Girls do. I have had a couple of loan requests which I shut down immediately. [B]But I do have one girl that I will buy things for when she asks me[/B].
A mental attitude of poverty is deeply embedded among many of the posters here. Example below:
That is what your stack is for.[/QUOTE]I didn't come to Pattaya to try to outspend Koreans to get a lady. If I wanted to throw money at ladies, I could have just stayed in Tijuana, Mexico and paid $150 for a ST for a silicon enhanced Mexicana.
Pattaya does have its attractions outside of bars and bargirls, but if it becomes too expensive, I am out of here.