Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2973051]So "feeling less transactional" after having spent time with a hooker who would have left the day he'd have told her he don't want to pay her to stay longer is the explanation. Okay. There must be some longer psychological story for this. Wonder how that fits with the common economic theories.

How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm pretty sure if someone lived a couple of months with a hooker, most would start feeling somewhat less transactional about things. As it is, I've yet to pay anyone even for longtime, so it's rather unlikely to happen with me, but I can understand.

In all the sponsorship cases I've known, the guy believed, or at least pretended to believe, the girl was not banging others. One western guy had the girl move into another apartment (for which he paid the rent), so she could stay in the same building as some other girl he knew and who could "keep an eye" on his girl, while attending some make-up / cosmetics course he was paying for, and sending her 50,000 a month (this was up north, 10+ years ago, so it was a pretty good sum). I don't know wtf he was smoking as the other girl was working bar. His girl did indeed stop hooking afaik, though I met her at a regular disco one evening and from thereon out were banging her twice a week while her sponsor was away. Even had her repeat the std test after he left so I could keep banging her without a condom. In the end she ended the relationship with the sponsor because "she did not like him so much", even though it meant losing the 50 k a month + apartment rent. Before that she had been sponsored by some Japanese dude who had her stay at some high-end condo far away from the city centre, and which she also ended for similar reasons I think.

Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary". The girl was smiling and laughing at me while telling him that if he could not send her the salary it meant he did not really love her, and she would have to go with other men so she could send money to her parents (rather than get a normal job and send money to her parents). One of the few times I become too disgusted with a girl to want to fuck her, so quietly got dressed and left her room. Considered saying something aloud to the poor sucker on the phone, who was still proclaiming his love, before leaving, but I didn't want to keep having to watch my back for some crazy bar girl.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2973051]How about for the sponsorship thingy, what are the grey cells doing in those guys heads when sending 10's or 100's of kbahts a month for the hookers that others keep fucking while they are out of the country? That is even more amazing behaviour to me. Not that I am complaining as I can enjoy the benefits locally.[/QUOTE]Very simple. These people believe they can buy the loyalty and monogamy of a bar girl or sex worker, or better yet, prevent her from working at the bar or freelancing altogether by paying her with their supplemental income.

As we all know, that's a disaster waiting to happen. The first argument you get in, she's going right back to sex work while the dumb sponsor still sends her money to not engage in sex work.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;2972898]We are talking about hookers here, not "some girl we liked. " But when paying a chick for sex, something goes off in some guys' heads saying he should shower her with unsolicited gifts in addition to paying the required fee for sex? Make that make sense.[/QUOTE]
If pornstars, strippers, and onlyfans “models” can find husbands and sponsor and boyfriends, why can’t sex workers? Content creators literally put a link in their bio to their amazon wishlist for random strangers to buy them stuff.

Why? Because beautiful women (in the eyes of those who think they need gifts), regardless of what they do or did for a living, tend to get shit. Thats just the way the world works. Men buy shit for women they believe look good.

We don’t have to fully understand it, but the fact that onlyfans “models” are making millions is all the evidence we need to know that its true.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2973118]Yeah, I'm pretty sure if someone lived a couple of months with a hooker, most would start feeling somewhat less transactional about things. As it is, I've yet to pay anyone even for longtime, so it's rather unlikely to happen with me, but I can understand.

In all the sponsorship cases I've known, the guy believed, or at least pretended to believe, the girl was not banging others. One western guy had the girl move into another apartment (for which he paid the rent), so she could stay in the same building as some other girl he knew and who could "keep an eye" on his girl, while attending some make-up / cosmetics course he was paying for, and sending her 50,000 a month (this was up north, 10+ years ago, so it was a pretty good sum). I don't know wtf he was smoking as the other girl was working bar. His girl did indeed stop hooking afaik, though I met her at a regular disco one evening and from thereon out were banging her twice a week while her sponsor was away. Even had her repeat the std test after he left so I could keep banging her without a condom. In the end she ended the relationship with the sponsor because "she did not like him so much", even though it meant losing the 50 k a month + apartment rent. Before that she had been sponsored by some Japanese dude who had her stay at some high-end condo far away from the city centre, and which she also ended for similar reasons I think.

Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary"..[/QUOTE]This is typical. In Thailand, ladies want to give money to their boyfriend, and take money from customers.

If you are confused about what your bargirl thinks about you, just follow the money.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2973063]Am I the only one who had a favorite frequent repeat hottie who did find an old USA dude sponsor who only comes to Thailand 1-2 weeks every few months, pays her monthly support and, I'll be damned if she doesn't honor his request not to have Real Sex with any of the customers she meets in the bar anymore? Not me nor any of her regulars from before she agreed to his offer.

She is still one of the most popular girls in the gogo bar. But ladydrinks only and I never see her leaving with amyone or on her way to and from a hotel except with that old dude whenever he is in town.

Maybe it works the way the sponsor wants it sometimes. Or maybe she just stopped fucking me and is still fucking everyone else on the sly.[/QUOTE]More likely than not, it's the last point. Odds are that she found a local sponsor / customer with whom she goes daily after work. I had a comparable situation two years ago when one of my twice-weekly FL regulars (who has a sponsor BF living overseas) stopped coming by, just chatting at times via Line telling she stopped going customers and too busy with work. Couldn't believe at all what she said. Funnily enough, sometime later I purely accidentally learnt she had found a new local customer. Living not far from my place. And she started to go with him pretty much daily as he wanted like that, thus no time for me. She liked him better for whatever reason, maybe because he wanted daily and I wanted rotation and such was better/easier for her. However after few months something happened and that deal with him was off, and voila she started to come by again (and still does). Zebra rarely gets rid of her stripes.

And of course stupid sponsor boyfriend in Europe continues to happily sponsor her, believing she is a good girl. She actually is, just not in a way that he believes.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2973053][B]Why are you even using one grey cell to think about what another man is doing with his money or his dick[/B]?[/QUOTE]I am not thinking what guys do with their dicks or cash, rather trying to understand the psychology underlying what they doing. Just pure curiosity as intrigued by the bahaviour, something comparable that was driving guys like Freud and Einstein to do what they did. Have to admit I have a bad habit trying to understand why things work the way they do. Sometimes is it is like trying to comprehend the incomprehensible and better to just stop and conclude that I understand that I can not understand.

But as you said, this probably has something to do with "Having Fun" - different people have fun doing different things and get their kicks drom different things, and that is perfectly fine as long as they are happy doing what they are doing. Maybe something comparable to me spending money to ride a Harley instead of Yamaha that some people see as complete waste of money. Throwing excessive gifts or sponsoring simple hookers from overseas must be fun for some, giving them great enjoyment. Just not for me.

I have fun fucking them though.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2973118]Yeah, I'm pretty sure if someone lived a couple of months with a hooker, most would start feeling somewhat less transactional about things. As it is, I've yet to pay anyone even for longtime, so it's rather unlikely to happen with me, but I can understand.

In all the sponsorship cases I've known, the guy believed, or at least pretended to believe, the girl was not banging others. One western guy had the girl move into another apartment (for which he paid the rent), so she could stay in the same building as some other girl he knew and who could "keep an eye" on his girl, while attending some make-up / cosmetics course he was paying for, and sending her 50,000 a month (this was up north, 10+ years ago, so it was a pretty good sum). I don't know wtf he was smoking as the other girl was working bar. His girl did indeed stop hooking afaik, though I met her at a regular disco one evening and from thereon out were banging her twice a week while her sponsor was away. Even had her repeat the std test after he left so I could keep banging her without a condom. In the end she ended the relationship with the sponsor because "she did not like him so much", even though it meant losing the 50 k a month + apartment rent. Before that she had been sponsored by some Japanese dude who had her stay at some high-end condo far away from the city centre, and which she also ended for similar reasons I think.

Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary". The girl was smiling and laughing at me while telling him that if he could not send her the salary it meant he did not really love her, and she would have to go with other men so she could send money to her parents (rather than get a normal job and send money to her parents). One of the few times I become too disgusted with a girl to want to fuck her, so quietly got dressed and left her room. Considered saying something aloud to the poor sucker on the phone, who was still proclaiming his love, before leaving, but I didn't want to keep having to watch my back for some crazy bar girl.[/QUOTE]I've had countless of LTs and many LLTs for several weeks. Obviously would not do LT, esp repeat LT, nor LLT unless click with the girl at some level at least sexually, however when the fee becomes due, it is a good reminder that it is transactional and shakes off the possible feelings of the deal being 'less transactional'.

After a while being sponsored but banned from freedom, some of the girls simply get bored to that life after the fun life in Pattaya (or other main places), especially so if the sponsor forces them to move back to the village. One of my LLT's few years ago told she had a Belgian sponsor that paid her well but she had to move to her village in Isaan, out from Pattaya. With the money he was sending, she built a very nice and modern small house for herself, spending closer to million THB on that. However once the house project was finished, she simply got bored staying there as nothing much to do, stopped the relationship and came back to work Pattaya.

The incidents when sponsor call the girl while she is with your are funny indeed. I will move out the room for the call period as I have difficulties to hold my laugh listening!

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2973266]I am not thinking what guys do with their dicks or cash, rather trying to understand the psychology underlying what they doing. Just pure curiosity as intrigued by the bahaviour, something comparable that was driving guys like Freud and Einstein to do what they did. Have to admit I have a bad habit trying to understand why things work the way they do. [b]Sometimes is it is like trying to comprehend the incomprehensible and better to just stop and conclude that I understand that I can not understand[/b]. [/QUOTE]Look bro I understand. I don't understand why guys pay to eat the pussy. But I am not going to call them stupid because that is how they choose to spend their money.

[QUOTE=Knobrm;2973266]But as you said, this probably has something to do with "Having Fun" - different people have fun doing different things and get their kicks drom different things, and that is perfectly fine as long as they are happy doing what they are doing. Maybe something comparable to me spending money to ride a Harley instead of Yamaha that some people see as complete waste of money. Throwing excessive gifts or sponsoring simple hookers from overseas must be fun for some, giving them great enjoyment. Just not for me.[/QUOTE]Exactly! You make my point. Ultimate goal is to have fun and enjoy your life. If someone wants to pay to eat the pussy (knowing that someone may have blown splooge up in it minutes before) who am I to criticize them for it. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the facts out (hey what is that white stuff dripping out the girl you are about to go down on) to another person (about eating pussy or sponsorship). But to call them stupid (as I have seen done many time up in here) for engaging in an activity they find enjoyable to me is completely out of line. That goes for where they choose to procure their prostitutes, how much they choose to pay their prostitutes or how they choose to spend their money on regular things life when they are not [B]International Trickin[/B]. Usually the people who do that are not getting any pussy and want it so bad they cannot understand how anyone could spend money in a way that does not directly get their dick off.

[B]International Tricks[/B] need to remember there are other men to think we are lame because we [I]have[/I] to buy pussy. It is just many forget about that because they been [B]International Trickin[/B] for so long it has become an embedded lifestyle and they think it is normal and accepted in greater society when it is not.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2973118]......Another girl had her sponsor ring her while I had my dick in her mouth. He too believed she was not banging others, and I had to listen to a teary eyed story about how he was now working an extra job, shoveling snow at night, in order to be able to send her the monthly "salary". The girl was smiling and laughing at me while telling him that if he could not send her the salary it meant he did not really love her, and she would have to go with other men so she could send money to her parents (rather than get a normal job and send money to her parents). One of the few times I become too disgusted with a girl to want to fuck her, so quietly got dressed and left her room. Considered saying something aloud to the poor sucker on the phone, who was still proclaiming his love, before leaving, but I didn't want to keep having to watch my back for some crazy bar girl.[/QUOTE]Didn't her parents teach her not to talk with her mouth full? LOL!

Did you pay her? I don't know how you guys do it; I hire a pro only when I'm horny and in that condition I can't just up and leave LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2973373]Didn't her parents teach her not to talk with her mouth full? LOL!

Did you pay her? I don't know how you guys do it; I hire a pro only when I'm horny and in that condition I can't just up and leave LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL I remember being in Spain and eating a hot Albanian girl out while she talked to "Francisco" on the phone. Poor Francisco who thought she was waiting for him! No, there she was laying on her back talking on the phone to Francisco with her legs spread wide open while I munched on that "crack snack". Then proceeded to fuck her into stupidity once she hung up with her unsuspecting "lover" Francisco. Never trust these hoors with your hearts men. Don't do it! Because another guy could be eating her out (or worse) just as she professes her love to you! LMAO! I don't get disgusted. I just work hard not to get played like Francisco! Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them, forget them!

[QUOTE=Turgid;2973373]Didn't her parents teach her not to talk with her mouth full? LOL!

Did you pay her? I don't know how you guys do it; I hire a pro only when I'm horny and in that condition I can't just up and leave LOL.[/QUOTE]No, back then I had some principle against paying for sex and never paid anyone.

Doesn't happen often that I'm already in bed with a girl and abort due to personality issues, and I don't normally have much interest in their BF, sponsors or whatever, so I just started pulling off her shorts instead when she started talking on the phone. Thinking I'll start fucking her gently instead while she talks, which is always somewhat humorous.
After listening for a bit I however remember having a strong feeling of disgust about this lazy bargirl smiling and laughing "with me", while her BF / sponsor was literally crying on his side of the phone about trying to scrape together enough money for her "salary", and save up the money for visiting her so they could be "together again".

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2973465]No, back then I had some principle against paying for sex and never paid anyone.

Doesn't happen often that I'm already in bed with a girl and abort due to personality issues, and I don't normally have much interest in their BF, sponsors or whatever, so I just started pulling off her shorts instead when she started talking on the phone. Thinking I'll start fucking her gently instead while she talks, which is always somewhat humorous.
After listening for a bit I however remember having a strong feeling of disgust about this lazy bargirl smiling and laughing "with me", while her BF / sponsor was literally crying on his side of the phone about trying to scrape together enough money for her "salary", and save up the money for visiting her so they could be "together again".[/QUOTE]I posted the following link in another forum. It applies here as well:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXRN_LkCa_o[/URL]

Anyone here ever barfine a Tomboy?

I don't mean a lady who will play with another lady, or do a show, I mean a real Tomboy.

I have gone with ladies who have female girlfriends, but they weren't Tomboys.

And, in real life, I did have a girlfriend from Venezuela who became a Tom later in life. But I have never barfined a Tomboy in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2973836]Anyone here ever barfine a Tomboy?[/QUOTE]Does it have to be barfine? For instance are you asking if someone has fucked a tomboy or paid a tomboy for sex or does it have to be specifically paid for one to leave a bar with them? You tend to only talk in bar terms as if that is the only way to skin a cat or rather get some cat.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2973965]Does it have to be barfine? For instance are you asking if someone has fucked a tomboy or paid a tomboy for sex or does it have to be specifically paid for one to leave a bar with them? You tend to only talk in bar terms as if that is the only way to skin a cat or rather get some cat.[/QUOTE]Anyone here ever go with a Tomboy?

My first week in Pattaya was incredible, so good in fact I'm scared it may go on to ruin my life! : !

I ventured to Walking Street on my first night, being a must visit and all. Started off at a ping pong show, because why not, fucking horrid! Way worse than I remember Khao San road 10 years ago, miserable old women blowing out candles with their minge, asked me for a 500 bh top to be a prop, I left 100 and walked out. Went into a ladyboy club to satiate my curiosity, got swarmed! Some of them are scarily good looking, the place was dead though so I quickly left and tried a Russian bar, a gorgeous blonde asked me to buy her a drink, balked at the 700 bh fee, she then said we could skip drinks and go into a ST room for 3000 bh, her sexy smile would have convinced me but I could smell a shit service a mile away so made my way to to soi 6.

Within a few meters I spotted my #1 girl so far, she had the most insane ass! Unfortunately she was chatting away to someone else so carried on down, stopped at 3 different gaffs for a girly drink with someone who caught my eye, 1st didn't look that pretty in the light and the 2nd & 3rd seemed keen but both had a bit too much of a 'goofy' personality for me (which I soon learned is not that uncommon), walking back up I spotted the girl with the insane ass again! She was hugging the same guy from earlier but this time she locked eyes and blew me a kiss, damn wish I was this guy with her! I walked back up to see if anyone caught my eye, and third time the charm on my way back down the soi I saw her again! This time she dragged me in to a seat (I didn't need much convincing). She waited for her fella to pay his bar tab and leave before coming back to me, we got chatting and just clicked instantly, and she was really sexy! Wanting to show off a bit, when I bought her a shot I offered one to the waiter and the 3 girls sitting out front too, and as if I turned a switch she was all over me, lapdances, full on DFK the works! Approaching 2 am so they shut down the bar and she invited me to join her and her girls to a club on walking street, we spent about an hour there dancing, making out and drinking before leaving to find a short time hotel, what followed was 2 hours of ecstasy! Most genuine GFE I've ever experienced, I tipped 1 k for the pleasure and we exchanged WhatsApps.

My second night in Pattaya was a bit of a dud, I went out at around 3 am so only ventured to walking street, went into one of the gogos and got chatting to one of the non dancers, they tried to pressure me into buying drinks for other girls, but having learned my lesson from the 1st night I refused, the girl was pretty and seemed very keen, almost giddy but the massaman came and quoted 3000 bar fine + 4000ST must be having a laugh I noped out of there and had a walk down beach street but saw nothing so called it a day.

My third night around 11 pm I messaged the girl from my first night to see if she was free but she was 'off that day', headed down to soi 6 again to see what I liked, had a few drinks with some different girls, one caught my eye who had a huge pair for her slim frame, she was quite weird as she spent the entire time (nearly an hour) just gyrating on me like a rabbit, or pretending to be a cat, or showing me photos of her cat. I liked the look of her boobs though so took her upstairs for 1500ST, wasn't feeling it though so pretended to pop and bounced. A bit more wondering and a cutey with really nice dimples caught my eye, everything that followed was a near repeat of the night before! She was making out with me non stop, giggling on eye contact, taking selfies with me. She suggested LT for 3 k which I agreed, she also suggested we go to the nightclub before going back to my room (sensing a pattern here), funnily enough I spotted the girl from my first night at the club and messaged her jokingly that I can see her and that I'm better than her man, she asked me to meet her by the bathroom, dragged me into a cubicle and started furiously making out with me (these women!) she asked me to message her tomorrow night. Took my new girl home and she was incredible, amazing BBBJ, great fuck after a shower together and repeated in the morning. Eventually I had to ask her to leave at around 11 as I had to meet up with family, she seemed a bit upset about it:'the tipped her 1 k for the pleasure + 200 for taxi. Both nights were very similar, maybe the nightclub thing is a known routine? But it's perfect for me as I can get a bit tipsier, dance and makeout with a hot girl for a few hours before going back for some amazing sex, which have both been the most genuine GFE I've had in over 2 years +100 punts by far!! I think I'm starting to get why people can get hooked on this place!!

My final night in Pattaya, even though I had an amazing night just before with girl #2, for some reason I just could not get girl #1 out of my head, I was thinking about her all day, and just my luck she messaged me that afternoon to see if I was free, she said it was her day off so met me at my condo at night, and what followed was a night of just pure GFE bliss, bath together, making out like teenagers, suck, fuck, repeat! She kept doing something a little unusual for me also where she would often like, sniff my cheek? Is this a Thai thing? Anyway she added my on instagram afterwards and now. I feel like a massive twat as it's been nearly a week and I can't stop thinking about this girl! In over 2 years of punting with even a few sexcations thrown in I've never caught feels, and here I am swooning over one of the first Thai working girls who throws me attention: this is how I know Pattaya will now ruin my life as I'm already planning my next trip this summer and have a strong feeling my desire to return will consume the rest of my life!

In summary however, an incredible week. Would have to spend thousands in the UK for even remotely the experience, I'm officially hooked!