Bangkok Reports

Was not planning to take any session at all at this point but as I walked along soi 4 past Nana Plaza and down the street there is a bar at a corner of a building, just before a square on the right side. I recall seeing a lot of Hillary signs but I don't think this bar is a Hillary bar.

Anyway.

I walked by and an absolute angel IMO appears on my right side.

She was sitting outside the bar just looking at people passing by.

I didn't know if she was working there or not but I knew I had to find out.

I went inside the bar and picked a seat facing the street.

After about 3 minutes the angel turned towards me and smiled. I smiled back.

Conversation began and she tells me she started working at bar just 3 weeks ago. Believable? Maybe not.

But she was (is) beautiful.

Her name is Bee and 27 years old. She has very limited English skills but we managed to communicate well enough anyway.

I asked if she wants to go with me and she said yes, but I need to pay her barfine which was 500 baht.

I did and we started walking to my hotel. This is when I realized that we haven't discussed what she is willing to do, for how long and for what price. This could be a mistake I thought, but ok, too late to bail now.

We arrive at the hotel and she said let's shower together.

She revealed a beautiful body. Gave an amazing BBBJ in the shower and we proceeded to the bed.

More BBBJ as I fingered her pussy and she was soaking wet.

The only downside was an all natural pussy, I don't think she ever shaved it. But never mind, just no DATY when there is so much hair. She was so eager to have a dick inside her that I had to stop her to put on a condom.

I am not in to BBFS with girls I don't know. We continued in every position imaginable until she came twice and me once.

Showered again and cuddled in bed. She showed no sign in wanting to leave so I asked if she wanted to stay all night, she smiled and said yes. We both fell asleep quickly and slept all night. When we woke up she immediately started round 2 and I was not going to let her down.

She never asked for any money except the bar fine, but I gave her a generous tip and she was very happy.

An amazing girl that I will definitely repeat with if I have the chance.

Safe mongering.

[QUOTE=JAKarl;2269433]She never asked for any money except the bar fine, but I gave her a generous tip and she was very happy.
[/QUOTE]Newbies can be shy to ask for it, but if bar fineable it shows they are fucking for money and expect something like the going rate. So I hope generous tip means paid her as normal.

Old Dutch on Soi Cowboy lease expired. Restaurant is shut down and construction work is occurring. Don't go there to eat! Finally I think the rumoured expansion of Crazy House is underway, most likely.

I had thought that CH had declined too much to be worth expanding however at 1 AM last night it was quite full, and even line up was a bit better than I had been used to last year. Two or 3 doable girls for me, being rather fussy, about face and body. One good looking girl would have had to be ruled out as her sillies were just too silly like half coconuts inside. A good job is acceptable to me, but why do some girls go get a horror job, when they are otherwise very nice looking. Mystifying to me. Seems that too much is just not enough. All up saw about 3 or 4 really horrible implant jobs and a few other a bit more reasonably shaped.

I see that Sahara bar appears to have Ladyboys (sitting in the front) and girls, Five Star has both girls and ladyboys these days, and then there is "Cock-or-two" bar.

So in the modern day, Cowboy is no longer a place safe from Ladyboys.

I am told the LBs in Five Star are Post Op. However very obvious ladyboys, so no one would be fooled I thought. Ging a girl that works there told me the LBs are particularly popular with Chinese and Japanese customers, and she claims many guys can't tell they are LBs. I guess the look similar to many Baccara girls due to coloured and styled hair and the surgeries. Exaggerated movements. Not the look I go for at all. She says they are girls now because have had the Op to make a pussy. I don't get it though, having never thought of trying a LB. Dicks come in different sizes, and real pussies are very stretchable and have muscles to squeeze as well. I doubt that a fake pussy can stretch to accommodate different sized dicks. Perhaps many customers take the ass inside.

I need really beautiful pussy. I reckon even if I was blind, doing DATY could easily tell if a pussy was real. Of course I usually stick fingers in as well. Did a new girl (first time BFed by me) from 5 star. Line up down a bit for new year. My usual stunning body girl there, was absent so tried Kaan (Garn) instead. Pretty Issan face (for exotic look), and good curvy body, ass nice enough, and small waist, pretty bald pussy (naked dancing), unfortunately saggy tits possibly from childbirth (although did not see tummy stretch marks). Normally saggy tits put me off so had to make a big compromise. They are not so obvious when lying down. Would not be first time I accepted saggy tits. She was a good fuck (pussy tight enough and needed to stretch) and not dick scared. Perhaps does not have a baby and tits just small and saggy anyway. A bit of a screamer during sex (not like acting though), so Japanese customers might like that. 555.

Ging has great tits but unfortunately works as Coyote these days, she says will go do a HJ (no fucking anymore), but I am not into HJs. I suppose I could get her drunk and insist on clothes off, and see what happens. In addition to a few ladyboys, 5 star has now introduced the ugly shows like firing darts at balloon, and pussy opening bottle of soda, performed by the fat ugly girls (probably same girls who do shows in CH). Can't stand these shows. Makes me want to leave in a hurry, and possibly not go to the bar anymore. I really only go there to take the nude perfect body girl who wasn't there. Music is still pretty horrible but not as bad as when CH first opened in Five Star. Perhaps after the CH expansion, 5 star will be sold again, or some other change. Not many western customers in there since the Ladyboys were introduced. They are not doing it right to attract expats really, other than nude girls, and possibility to molest the girls.

I had intended to be doing my regular Lao girl privately, but she had gone home as needs an urgent operation for severe medical condition. Will be very bad luck if I loose her permanently as very pretty model type and a perfect pussy, and quite orgasmic in DATY and cowgirl positions. Regulars drop off from time to time, and it is quite disturbing when they are liked well enough to be like a 2nd or 3rd GF.

Maybe tonight I will check which Nana bar has nudity, or was that a fake report we got, and he was really in Cowboy, but forgot where he was. Sorry, I am always a bit sceptical till see it for myself. Just a very sceptical type. Guess I have to RTFF to see if anyone already named the bar.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2269440]Newbies can be shy to ask for it, but if bar fineable it shows they are fucking for money and expect something like the going rate. So I hope generous tip means paid her as normal.[/QUOTE]Syzygies.

I gave her just a bit more than I would normally pay for for LT. I am sure it is a little bit more than she normally gets as well.

I am happy, I think she is happy as well because she just added me to her Line.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2269454]Old Dutch on Soi Cowboy lease expired. Restaurant is shut down and construction work is occurring. Don't go there to eat! Finally I think the rumoured expansion of Crazy House is underway, most likely.

I had thought that CH had declined too much to be worth expanding however at 1 AM last night it was quite full, and even line up was a bit better than I had been used to last year. Two or 3 doable girls for me, being rather fussy, about face and body. One good looking girl would have had to be ruled out as her sillies were just too silly like half coconuts inside.

-snip-[/QUOTE]Syzy, a few weeks ago I posted that I was surprised to see a handful of good looking girls, maybe some of the better looking girls in Crazy House at the time, dancing in the upstairs area. Just yesterday a visiting USA friend of mine who is not into this site mentioned that he was in Crazy House for the first time over the New Years weekend and thought the girls upstairs were generally better looking than the girls downstairs. And I would consider him a picky guy on girls' looks and age. Did you happen to check out the upstairs area in your latest visit?

I wonder if CH is trying a different tack to deal with the always jam packed downstairs area by moving some of the better looking girls upstairs to draw customers up there even when the place isn't packed with customers, pretty much the reversal of what they had been doing previously.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2269471]Syzy, a few weeks ago I posted that I was surprised to see a handful of good looking girls, maybe some of the better looking girls in Crazy House at the time, dancing in the upstairs area. Just yesterday a visiting USA friend of mine who is not into this site mentioned that he was in Crazy House for the first time over the New Years weekend and thought the girls upstairs were generally better looking than the girls downstairs. And I would consider him a picky guy on girls' looks and age. Did you happen to check out the upstairs area in your latest visit?

I wonder if CH is trying a different tack to deal with the always jam packed downstairs area by moving some of the better looking girls upstairs to draw customers up there even when the place isn't packed with customers, pretty much the reversal of what they had been doing previously.[/QUOTE]Well you might be right. Previously the older girls, girls with baby damage, fatties, ugly show girls etc. Were upstairs, and naturally not many guy would want to go upstairs, unless took their hotty upstairs with them, to find a nice relaxed spot for molestation.

I did not yet check upstairs this year, but should do so. Messaged a CH girl today to see if she wants to visit me. She lives quite close to where I am staying. Some bars have been quiet. Tough time of year and girls have to pay the rent (even if late).

Anyone know if Ruamchit Plaza sets aside some ST rooms for Thermae customers even when the hotel is sold out? Are the ST rooms still 500 baht?

[QUOTE=JAKarl;2269463]Syzygies.

I gave her just a bit more than I would normally pay for for LT. I am sure it is a little bit more than she normally gets as well.
[/QUOTE]Okay What you wrote before was a bit ambiguous mentioning a tip only. Many girls try to psychologically evaluate a customer as a generous type or a stingy type. Sometimes the girl will take a gamble and not negotiate a price, hoping to get more out of generous guys in a good mood, after a great experience. Of course a girl could negotiate a price and hope for extra tip after good performance, however many girls know they get more by not negotiating a price. That is why I often have no negotiation with a girl newly trying, just like last night. No price was set.

If the girl thinks the guy is going to be stingy, either by ethic origin, reputation in the bar, or general personality, she probably won't risk it, and negotiate a price. I think when I try a bargirl, a moderately low percentage of them set a price, and often it is a sign of perhaps the girl will not be that great, or does not really like the guy that much, or thinks he scores a little too high on the "asshole" scale. If guy is highly not trusted, he might get asked to pay upfront, and often mamasans are trying this. Again, it could be an indicator of a girl with crappy performance too.

Natty Bumpo is a guy in the bar (and buddy) who is fun and not stingy type by appearance. I bet he hardly ever has to negotiate with the girl for the price in Nana and Cowboy bars. I don't recall asking him how often he negotiated but I reckon can guess not much.

Even after the deed is all done, girls prefer not to have to ask for the money, but give the guy every chance to pay without being asked. Once in a while I forgot to pay (not often), and girl gave me a little subtle reminder, and in rare occasions the girl forgot as well, and I had to message her later that I would pay her the next day, if I had the contact details. Some guys would never return to the girl and be happy they got a freebie, but that is not me. I don't like to take advantage of people and rip them off.

When we barfine a girl, even if price is not discussed, there is an unwritten contract to pay fairly, provided the sex is provided of course. We do have more option to pay more if service is great, and less if we cancel out after a few minutes of shitty service, though. I like that. I won't pay the standard if she made it too difficult to get a decent fuck out of her.

I always treat a girl well, if I want to repeat her, that way can send her LINE message to come and fuck me, no need to discuss the price. Its still a lot cheaper than going to a bar, paying for drinks and barfine and girl's fee. Today, the CH girl comes late afternoon, and she owes me 1K from when she was desperate with nothing to buy food possibly sick and not working, so I just deduct that from the price. Not good to give girls a lot in advance or might never see them again. Make it like she will always need me at least as a fall back, and similarly I might need her as a fallback when other major regulars are not available. Some drinks to loosen her shyness and she is a goer on the bed. Hell of a nuisance I can't buy alcohol between 2pm and 5pm. They never allowed for needing booze to loosen up girls visiting us in the afternoon. Ha ha . Perhaps Hotels will still sell it? I don't need the alcohol myself. Never shy and prefer to drink after the sex because it desensitizes the dick and makes erections last less long. As I am slow to cum, and like an extended fuck, I need dick to be at its best sensitivity. Guys that pop too fast are the reverse and should drink alcohol first to dampen down the dick feeling a bit.

Another girl reported my girl has a crop of pimples. I am yet to see. If girls use suspect face creams not sold in proper stores or pharmacies, like steroid creams, they can risk bad face reactions to it, or reactions when stop using it. Possibly a useless piece of trivia, but don't let your girls buy face creams of unknown composition from suspect sources. Lancôme is incredibly over priced but I never saw a girl have allergic reaction to it. I am sure there are cheaper safe creams too. Not an expert.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2269373]After a two year hiatus I arrived BKK tonight about midnight. Nice to be back in the real "land of the free". I didn't have real high hope since I arrived the scene about 2 AM. But there was one smokin' hot girl I'd like to know if any seniors can provide info. She's at the bar with the sign "100% Girls Only" or something like that hanging over the door upstairs at Nana Plaza. I'm constantly bobbing in and out of these places and don't really pay much attention to the names of the bars. Might have been Billboard. For my taste the girl is a 9 out of 10 and I'm a pretty fussy MF. Her number is 152. I stared at her the entire set and although she smiled she would not come over when the drink lady asked her. Obviously I'm lacking MP game. Or youth. Or ethnicity. It certainly isn't money because I just wanted to buy her a drink and meet her tonight. OK LOL admittedly I probably would have found the money if she was friendly and interested. I asked mama if she goes with American man mama said yes she goes with all man. Anyone know this girl? I came home empty tonight but I'll be well rested tomorrow. I'm going to try her again. Just FYI I'm the guy that will take a 9 body lame performer over a 7 PSE performer. That's what works for me![/QUOTE]"Obviously I'm lacking MP game. " misprint I guess. Forum software can change what you typed. Would help if you were giving names of bars, but sounds like Billboard. I don't know numbers and probably only admired her myself. As yet tried very few.

You probably would have found the money? A strange statement. Makes you sound more like something other than American. Girls can have many reasons for not coming over. Could have an appointment to meet some other regular guy of hers, or is racist, or feeling sick, or anything. Hard to be sure. I have had cases when girls would not come over because 4 different guys all asked for the same girl, and she got too stressed out by it all, and possibly none of the guys appealed that much by look from a distance. Girls tell me I look a grumpy, not smiling. Actually they don't know me. I could be in a really good mood, just did not find anything really funny at the time. Other girls come to me uninvited. I hardly give them even a glance, so I am not friendly to all, only my target girls. So girls vary tremendously in whether they will come to guy easily or not. Demand for the girl is a factor. Best girls can be hard to get too.

[QUOTE=Faceless78;2269196]
In the room, she seemed to have great interests in my body and kept kissing me everywhere. Acting or not, she made me satisfied. However, when We just started for 3 minutes, her period came without any expectation (we noticed that while changing position). She was frightened and so was I. She said she had pills regularly and last period was just 2 weeks ago. Anyway, we stoped. She returned money to me, I let her keep it but she really insisted so and told me she could call her friend to replace her. At last, I gave her 1000 taxi fee and she left me her line number. All right, what an unexpected night. Since I had 2 times in the daytime, it didn't me long to fall asleep.
.[/QUOTE]I have a lot of experience with blood since youth. It does not bother me that much. Period can smell bad, but if not, it is not big deal for me. Condom is there, or even BBFS with trusted partner that gets tested or does not have lots of BBFS partners.

Probably actually not a period. Uterus damage happens a lot and bleeding occurs, can have been a previous customer, or was inflamed already and you were just the straw that broke the camel's back. Dick crashes uterus, and bang the blood comes because she is already bruised there and ready to bleed. Bright red is usually not period, where very dark like pigs blood probably can be a period.

Plenty of times I fucked a girl regardless off her period, if she can allow it. Good to just have a rinse out before starting to cut it down a bit.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;2269068]I am not ashamed to say that I am a very poor guide for the gogo scene. I might take one look a year here or there with no real preference. I too liked Crazy House in the early days but the amount of smoke in there ultimately drove me away. Angelwitch did a fairly entertaining little show with some brief full nudity. I commented on the poor lighting and Funman replied "because they are all old". Comparatively speaking he is certainly right. It did look like they were eager to engage rather than just doing the bored shuffle.[/QUOTE]Yes lighting in some bars is not great especially at face level. They don't want you to know how ugly the girls might be.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2268725]SZ,

You may be correct. I usually hang out in Soi Cowboy for that. That's probably why we cannot remember![/QUOTE]Now someone quotes a nude show in Angel or maybe a nude shower in Spankies. I have not been to those bars recently, so yeh can't quite remember if saw full nudity or not, but certainly saw no bar with nudity in general in Nana Plaza for many years.

These are expat style bars I guess. I don't like Spankies at all. The noisy spanking is a turn off. Similar to hating balloon popping shows. Not enough young sleek models in Angel Witch but they may have some experienced performers.

At 5, the bargirl comes to see me. I should say ex bargirl, since it seems she does not work there anymore and has no intention to return. Seems she is now semi-sponsored by someone, not a monthly salary perhaps, but reasonable lumps of money. She claims she has not had sex with any customers for a long time, however she is not known to be a totally truthful girl. 555. Girls can tell you what they think you want to hear (hard to guess that in my case. I would rather just hear truth regardless). Anyway I have not seen her in the bar for many months and she has pics relating to travel.

So does she come to me for the money or for the sex, or both? She used to be a girl difficult to cum, but made it okay Today, which is unusual and suggests has not been getting much sex. In the end I think she might need a bit of extra cash to help out her family etc. But not desperate enough to go back to working the bar. Skinny model type. Slightly kooky type but okay Left me exhausted as I did not get enough exercise for fitness lately and I set room a bit too hot.

[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2269424]I can assure you, that 80% of the same girls are there every week.[/QUOTE]My guess would have been 75% - on most nights. You're correct, I should have written that 'most' are professionals.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;2269567]I have a lot of experience with blood since youth. It does not bother me that much. Period can smell bad, but if not, it is not big deal for me. Condom is there, or even BBFS with trusted partner that gets tested or does not have lots of BBFS partners.

Probably actually not a period. Uterus damage happens a lot and bleeding occurs, can have been a previous customer, or was inflamed already and you were just the straw that broke the camel's back. Dick crashes uterus, and bang the blood comes because she is already bruised there and ready to bleed. Bright red is usually not period, where very dark like pigs blood probably can be a period.

Plenty of times I fucked a girl regardless off her period, if she can allow it. Good to just have a rinse out before starting to cut it down a bit.[/QUOTE]You are right sir, I recall the color was bright red, but she didn't seems to have any pain. She was very petite, probably some titans dick hurt her LOL.