American Politics

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2594398]This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: [URL]https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states[/URL].

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.[/QUOTE]A typical non-sequitur from the DD (Democrat Douche).

Let me make it simple: non-citizens who freely chose to work for the US in Afghanistan, at good rates of pay, are not entitled to permanent residency and lifetime welfare for themselves (and their extended families via chain migration) in the USA.

That has nothing whatsoever to do with LEOs or firefighters being killed. Only someone with their head in the communist clouds could write such nonsense. Stop insulting good Americans doing tough jobs you would never do by comparing them with third world shithole welfare flunkies.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2594543]The era was so good that it took a pale flunkie, Nixon with awful TV debate performances to thwart an essential third term by a hair[/QUOTE]Actually it was democrat election rigging that thwarted a third term. Some things never change.

[QUOTE=GDreams;2594474]Not oil from Russia or the Middle East or do you like to hand your money over to people actively working against your interests![/QUOTE]Republicans want to produce oil and gas domestically but the democrats including Biden wants to get our oil from Russia and OPEC which are against the USA. You support this.

Most of the solar panels are made in China. Most of the lithium for batteries for electric cars and electric storage is controlled by China. The democrats are obviously making China economy boom.

We are handing our economy and money to our adversaries. Smart move Biden.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2594370]When CNN is calling the Biden admin out for their incompetence, you know they f'd up huge.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBE9OqILRrk[/URL][/QUOTE]Nah. It's just that free media don't spare those who fuck up. Dems, reps, Cuomo, Biden, Trump, doesn't matter. They report.

I understand that for people who have volunteered to twist their brains into believing liars and cheerleaders from the likes of FOX or OANN, this is a hard concept to grasp. But the fact remains. Dealing with Taliban was cheered on by all Trumpies out there while the Red Menace was in office. Unilateral withdrawals, base closings, leaving caches of weapons for advancing Taliban, all was good.

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-taliban-peace-deal-afghanistan-jim-hanson[/URL]

[URL]https://www.foxnews.com/world/us-signs-historic-peace-deal-with-taliban-pompeo-strikes-cautious-tone[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2594396]Where in their contracts did it say "permanent residency and lifetime welfare in America"? SNIPg
And all you can think about is filling America with more third world shitholers on welfare. LOL. [/QUOTE]No, all I can think of is helping our Afghan allies (who we asked to risk their lives for our own strategic goals) to stay alive.

But it's telling how you and your ilk believe that every immigrant coming to the USA goes on welfare (and "lifetime welfare" no less).

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2594398]This has got to be the wackiest comment I've ever read.

Evidently the QOP figures that every LEO that has been killed worldwide "chose the work, knew the risks and was well-paid". Tell that to their families you douche.

The same thing goes for the military, firefighters and every other person working in a dangerous job like the ones listed here: [URL]https://www.ishn.com/articles/112748-top-25-most-dangerous-jobs-in-the-united-states[/URL].

The sad part is that the OP doesn't know how many people he insulted. Worse, he doesn't care.[/QUOTE]Of course he doesn't. But is it that surprising?

Their own Dear Leader told a military widow who JUST lost her husband that he "knew what he signed up for. ".

[URL]https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2017/10/18/lawmaker-says-trump-told-military-widow-that-her-husband-knew-what-he-signed-up-for/[/URL]

Trump and trumpies -- a match made in a dumpster.

[QUOTE=ChrisP;2594588]I will note that democrats have decriminalized knowingly passing on HIV in states they control.[/QUOTE]Another tired and boring lie.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/16/politics/fact-check-boebert-legalized-hiv-covid-restaurants/index.html[/URL]

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[QUOTE=EihTooms;2594361]Then what are the Biden critics on FUX News Channel and elsewhere demanding should have been done with them after Trump reduced our troop level to a paltry 2500 five days before leaving office, probably his obedient response to an order from the Taliban to do so, refusing to work with and coordinate any "plan" with the incoming administration, Trump obediently having gotten those 5,000 Taliban terrorists released from prison on the Taliban's orders but against the wishes of the Afghanistan government, the president of Afghanistan fleeing in terror and all the Warlords and local officials taking Taliban bribes to do nothing and look the other way while the Taliban seized control of Kabul without firing a single shot?

Just put them on a plane and fly around non stop until they die of old age? Set up a new Witness Protection I.D. and life for them in a cave?[/QUOTE]It has been 8 months since Biden took office. When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then? It seems like they waited for a weak president to put his plan in to attack. Biden had 8 months to figure it out but Biden didn't have a plan. He just assumed Taliban would cooperate. He should have been smart enough to get all the Americans out at least before he reduced troops further but he didn't. He should have listened to his military advisors telling him that he was moving to fast. But in his defense he didn't remember these discussions because he is senile. This catastrophe is totally Biden. You can't blame Trump or anyone else. Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives. The whole world know Biden screwed up and it is an embarrassment to the USA.

There are numerous Muslim countries for these Afghans to live in. There is no reason to force these Afghans to live in an oppressive racist country like the USA, per BLM. Give them a flight to Mecca and let Saudi Arabia pay for their welfare bennies and Section 8 housing. Think the Saudis can afford a little charity for the Afghan pilgrims to Mecca? As a bonus, US citizens don't have to worry about these "refugees" flying an airliner into a skyscraper, which is what started this whole mess. The "Invade the World; Invite the World" strategy of George W. Bush is a disaster for the average American.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594380]I mean if you don't care that thousands of Afghans helping our troops and risking their lives along with our troops all these years might end up getting tortured and killed, then there is no problem with Biden's botched withdrawal. All is good, right? Is that what you're saying?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2594688]It has been 8 months since Biden took office. When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then? It seems like they waited for a weak president to put his plan in to attack. Biden had 8 months to figure it out but Biden didn't have a plan. He just assumed Taliban would cooperate. He should have been smart enough to get all the Americans out at least before he reduced troops further but he didn't. He should have listened to his military advisors telling him that he was moving to fast. But in his defense he didn't remember these discussions because he is senile. This catastrophe is totally Biden. You can't blame Trump or anyone else. Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives. The whole world know Biden screwed up and it is an embarrassment to the USA.[/QUOTE]Instead of asking this ridiculous question "When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then?" , why not look it up? [URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-57933979[/URL] The answer is obvious. The Taliban didn't control enough of the country, as any military person could have told you.

But if the Taliban didn't control much of the country when the trump negotiations were over, how come they do now? One reason is that the former guy didn't negotiate for the Taliban to remain in place until our withdrawal. WTF? Trump didn't negotiate that?

So the upshot is that trump's useless negotiating skills let the Taliban take over the entire country without having to fire a shot (relatively speaking). What kind of lame negotiator allows that?

By the way, do you have a source for your "Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives" statement?

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594383]Could you make it easier for me douche to understand why you can't turn off the TV on your own?[/QUOTE]Because she had the remote. LOLOLOL.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2594345]Get rid of him based on what evidence Clinton had as president?[/QUOTE]His own fucking words.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2594345]The CIA, FBI and other intel agencies did not determine Bin Laden was (likely) responsible for the October 2000 USS Cole attack until June of 2001.[/QUOTE]One thing about being a Democratic is you make up the fact that all scientists and intelligence communities agree with you on every point.

[QUOTE=CaliGuy;2594688]It has been 8 months since Biden took office. When Trump reduced troops to 2500 why didn't Taliban take Kabul then? It seems like they waited for a weak president to put his plan in to attack. Biden had 8 months to figure it out but Biden didn't have a plan. He just assumed Taliban would cooperate. He should have been smart enough to get all the Americans out at least before he reduced troops further but he didn't. He should have listened to his military advisors telling him that he was moving to fast. But in his defense he didn't remember these discussions because he is senile. This catastrophe is totally Biden. You can't blame Trump or anyone else. Now 10,000 to 15,000 Americans will lose their lives. The whole world know Biden screwed up and it is an embarrassment to the USA.[/QUOTE]Trump assumed his BEGotiations with the Taliban would have them taking over within 48 hours of his scheduled May withdrawal. The fact that Biden managed to keep them at bay for an additional 3 months for those on our side to get their shit together (squandered by many) is a stark contrast in Trump weakness vs Biden strength:

Watch the video from FUX News Channel here:
[b]Former Natl. Sec. Dir. John Ratcliffe said that Trump knew that the Afghan military would fall to the Taliban within 48 hours but negotiated a deal to pull U.S. troops out of the country anyway.[/b]
[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2021/08/john-ratcliffe-taliban-trump[/URL]
[quote]Under the original conditions that the Trump administration negotiated with the Taliban, U.S. forces would have withdrawn from Afghanistan in May. President Joe Biden extended that exit until August.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2594543]Two roast beef sandwiches and a piece of pie, four deviled eggs (all homemade), and two cartons of milk. Home ownership, strong unions, stat ay home wives, flourishing GI bill, mind blowing golden age of cimena, and that was the 50's, Ike. We also saw the inauguration of Civil Rights in highly courageous films like Giant, iconic and immortal. Look it up. The era was so good that it took a pale flunkie, Nixon with awful TV debate performances to thwart an essential third term by a hair, something that is most hard to do.

Afghanistan? Well, there's a principle few politicians understand. If you have an angry pitt bull by the ears, don't let go. It will be a black mark on the Biden legacy that conservatives will harp on to try and get back in power. There's already been positives. More positives and negatives are to come. Opponents will minimize or dismiss the former, while howling about that latter. That's politics.

That said hopefully we call all agree that two roast beef sandwiches, deviled eggs, pegan pie and fresh milk sound very good, and all for a hard working man. Wink.[/QUOTE]GIANT, as was the case with most of the best movies of the great 1950's era of movies, was directed by a Liberal. I only mention that beacuse it helped to bring a touch of humanity to their art and craft rarely matched in the past few decades. In that case it was George Stevens. He won the Best Director Oscar for it. Good movie. But among the 5 nominees for Best Picture, AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS was really the best overall production in the group and deserved the Oscar for it.

However, the greatest movie of that year was not nominated for a Best Picture or Best Director Oscar and, coincidentally, is more pertinent to today's American Politics than ever; John Ford's masterpiece western, THE SEARCHERS.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594668]Nah. It's just that free media don't spare those who fuck up. Dems, reps, Cuomo, Biden, Trump, doesn't matter. They report.
... [/QUOTE]Of course. The only reason anyone might be misled into thinking mainstream media like CNN and any other real news sources over the decades is "liberal" or on the side if the Dems is because the bad news they had to report for the past 100 years, particularly regarding the economy, is so astonishingly consistently due to "conservative" or Repub policies, agenda and decisions and virtually never from those of the Dems.

The media has had no choice in the matter. Not real news sources, that is. On the other hand, FUX News Channel was created to slant the news toward Repubs, twist it and lie about it to do so.

Meanwhile, mainstream media will always propose false equivalencies and "Bothsiderism" in order to denigrate consistent Dem economic expansion and growth while elevating consistent Repub economic gross under performance, Crashes and disasters and thereby aid the election of Repubs over Dems because bad news on that issue attracts more eyes and ears to their corporate employers' product.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2594773]GIANT, as was the case with most of the best movies of the great 1950's era of movies, was directed by a Liberal. I only mention that beacuse it helped to bring a touch of humanity to their art and craft rarely matched in the past few decades. In that case it was George Stevens. He won the Best Director Oscar for it. Good movie. But among the 5 nominees for Best Picture, AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS was really the best overall production in the group and deserved the Oscar for it.

However, the greatest movie of that year was not nominated for a Best Picture or Best Director Oscar and, coincidentally, is more pertinent to today's American Politics than ever; John Ford's masterpiece western, THE SEARCHERS.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen I do not care what your political slant is, you want to see Giant if you haven't already. It's American creativity at it's pinnacle. I recommend springing for the blu-ray, quality wise will beat any online stream. It's not only an amazing movie with Rock Hudson, Liz Taylor, and James Dean at their best, it's a microcosm into America, who we are as a people, warts, growing pains, and all.

The sad part is that Jimmy never saw the finished product. He used the funds he made from the film to buy the Porche he died in. He outdid his Rebel Without a Cause performance, no small feat.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2594668]Nah. It's just that free media don't spare those who fuck up. Dems, reps, Cuomo, Biden, Trump, doesn't matter. They report.[/QUOTE]These are genuine news sources, the big three, and even CNN with a left center slant. They rake Dems over the coals all the time when they have it coming, and so do I. Fox, OANN, News Max, etc. Though are tabloid. It's the new era of true "fake news," the Rush Limbaugh Show masquerading as a news network, and that's being generous.