Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Stlsportsfan;2263018]Thanks gentlemen for the timely reply with good and useful intel, I'm probably going to try again before I leave. Referring to Jako's map, I think she was in T32 room 14 and it pissed me off when I asked for a position change and she said no, but offered a HJ. I was like, "I can do that myself" got dressed and split. Context here is that I consider myself seasoned at the game and I thank you all for the knowledge you share here. If I make it back to the RLD I'll post my findings and happy hunting gents.[/QUOTE]Thanks, probably was 14 I had my numbers screwed up, 13 is Elena's room and she has dark hair, screwed up the color in my prior post. I will avoid 14 now although might ' interview' her anyway for shits and giggles. I think some others may have had issues with Elena but for me room 13 has some great memories. Elena was a few more Euros than some others in the T32 House but she has tons of patience, multiple positions no complaining, DATY not an issue and complete GFE and a wonderful attitude. I saw her on the advise of a friend as well as a second Dietzenbach regular who sees her too, several times; for the 50 e plus the 20 e tip for being extra naughty one of my favorites in the house given the lack of rushing and great attitude. Her 50 is close to 30 minutes all inclusive :D

Good luck next time, give it a shot. Elena at 20/30 e service I have no clue about but for us ' Gypsy Lovers' she is a winner!

[QUOTE=TomRifle;2263303]So far I haven't had any good RLD expereinces, but still I would like to try some more. Are there any recommended house numbers / girls numbers? From browsing the last few pages I see only recommendation for E45, the 4th floor. In general, I am not looking for AO, or any extras, just the closest you could get to GFE for not more than 50 E.[/QUOTE]From reading the German boards and from experience walking stairs I would say just about any house (including the AO Houses of T32 and reality now appears E44 is also full of AO on every floor too a confirmation has been made in addition to my own, I think I have found it on 3 floors now myself) that you can easily find your GFE for 50 if you have patience and work your magic in just about every house. I think the only one (s) that might be tougher or present more of a challenge are that Rot Haus across from T27 (good deals in there for GFE BTW at your price point) and either Crazysex or some name like that, those latter two houses IMO have some stunners in them but a tad more attitude and more Euros required but like any place here talent is in every house, even the ' Palace and Mainhatten' of the RLD. Good luck, all up to the monger to make it happen. If you got what it takes to negotiate a 50 Euro note should find one good service in the RLD if not time it is time to go back to Mongering 101 class :D

This RLD is very user friendly and great for a beginner IMO relative to the AMS RLD and some other ones, these girls are nice girls, will negotiate and if at or over the 30 Euro mark only a bonehead in my opinion will fail in his hunt. My challenge for myself is to find naughty Gypsy service in the Mainhatten / Palace of the RLD; only takes one to bend and cave in :D

KK. The house where it is harder to find good service, Yes, you mean Crazy Sexy, Elbestrasse 43 to 51 if I remember right. Leierkasten. This house has always had a bit of a reputation for scamming and overcharging: but still worth checking out as you say.

In terms of scamming, overcharging I would put Crazy Sexy at the top, with T32 second. But neither should be avoided: your reports show this. Generally in rld there are plenty of good sessions.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2263384]KK. The house where it is harder to find good service, Yes, you mean Crazy Sexy, Elbestrasse 43 to 51 if I remember right. Leierkasten. This house has always had a bit of a reputation for scamming and overcharging: but still worth checking out as you say.

In terms of scamming, overcharging I would put Crazy Sexy at the top, with T32 second. But neither should be avoided: your reports show this. Generally in rld there are plenty of good sessions.[/QUOTE]I think I am referring to T34 directly across from T27 that has the huge red banner. The giant banner I think is red and the writing is big white block letters. I think this is a website for it. That is the house I went to looking for 'only you know' who , :D , and in said hunt I found several hot girls. I think this is the URL.

[URL]https://www.roteshaus.com/[/URL]

Based on combining our posts are T34 and E43-51 the places to avoid or better said the places that provide a greater challenge?

We are talking about different houses. I always had good luck in T34, but of course my experience is not as upto date as yours.

As you say, some places pose a greater challenge, but still offer great possibilities. E43 for me has been most challenging. As has T32, which has also high rewards: it is one of the busiest houses with loads of young men in the nights so the girls may be tempted to try their luck a bit more than some other houses. But you had success there :D and there are some good lookers there. Your target would fit in well there lol

FWIW, whenever I'm in town I make a point to go up a few floors up E43 to visit Natalia, 20 ish Polish girl. Definitely lots of upcharging for anything but basic service but IMO she's hot enough to be worth it.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2263549]We are talking about different houses. I always had good luck in T34, but of course my experience is not as upto date as yours.

As you say, some places pose a greater challenge, but still offer great possibilities. E43 for me has been most challenging. As has T32, which has also high rewards: it is one of the busiest houses with loads of young men in the nights so the girls may be tempted to try their luck a bit more than some other houses. But you had success there :D and there are some good lookers there. Your target would fit in well there lol[/QUOTE]But your experience is much more extensive, perhaps I need to try that house out. I have been tracking the movement the best I can of guys who post on local boards in the Gypsy section who also post in the Bahnhofsviertel section figuring they would be as one guy calls it seeking ' the special service' but it seems they pop up everywhere. I think finding the Gypsy behavioral patterns we seek really comes down to our styles, YMMV and as always a tad bit of luck.

Ok, I kind of know your style and MO a little bit, I think I know what I need to do in T34 now to possibly increase my odds, different game plan is my gut. I am going to give it a shot! E43 I walked thru, my target was moving for a while, that happened to be the location after T34, lasted one day (Might have been E47). I think my target would certainly fit in there ( T32) based on her naughtiness but I think she would take one look at the clientele in there at night and run home and text ' I am broke, my mother is in the hospital and I need to get home to Bucharest, send money, you are the only one who can help'.

Nothing you haven't seen yourself before :D

So, KK and Optimist, I came across the following master post:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?678-Frankfurt&p=2148547&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2148547.

He posted the following just so folks don't have to click the link:

-Rotes Haus: You'll know it when you come across it. It's fairly clean inside, rooms are more spacious, but the girls all ask for 30€ there, but often with odd extra caveats on top: 1 position only, some are only 15 minutes rather than 20 minutes, obviously CBJ, some even aren't even offering sex but just a BJ and touching. Steer clear or at least beware and negociate hard if you must.

-Crazy Sexy (Yellow complex with the large inside and statues on the main floor): I'm afraid to say that I haven't found good value here yet. Mostly 30€, some go as high as 50€, one woman I saw had a price scale on her door, 50€ for 15 minutes. If someone can let me know otherwise, please do, but I haven't found much in here. Yes, they have a number of Thai girls here.

Some of the girls here are also a bit aggressive with me getting into a small argument with one for asking a question. I've seen it before as well here. Not worth it.

-Eros Haus 42 Moselstrasse has a number of the 20€ girls.

-Eros Centre 32 Taunusstrasse also.

-47 Taunus: Some good looking girls here, as well as a number of blondes, but most are 30€.

He also said in another post that his favorite house is on Elbestrasse, last one on it. I can never remember the exact number, but it's the popular one for a reason. ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?678-Frankfurt&p=2238514&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2238514).

It seems that 47 Tanus is a camera shop (GFOTO). So, there is a typo. Rotes Haus and Crazy Sexy I guess one has to be careful. Looking in street view I couldn't tell where the entrance was for Crazy Sexy. Is that where the "KOMM" is?

I get it that E44 and T32 are next to each other. But, it is really hard to gather all the information that is there in 1000's of posts. Although when one is physically there it might get easier, it would be immensely useful for newbs if one of you RLD regulars (KK, Optmist, Lanthano) could post a list of the houses, it will be a great reference.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=ECity045;2263568]
I get it that E44 and T32 are next to each other. But, it is really hard to gather all the information that is there in 1000's of posts. Although when one is physically there it might get easier, it would be immensely useful for newbs if one of you RLD regulars (KK, Optmist, Lanthano) could post a list of the houses, it will be a great reference.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]The two are next to each other and E44 has two entrances, if facing it there is one on the left a dinky little annex, the right one is the one you go up. My advise is if new just stick to E44 and T32 or not, just walk any house. I went to T32 for one reason and one reason only and it all worked out yet others find exactly what I like in other houses. In fact one can almost ignore what I or anyone has written and go pave your own path. One guy went to T32 and couldn't find AO, I went there because a friend did and he found nothing but AO. Lanthano loves T32 (I think) but he doesn't go for AO so there you have it, the RLD is a giant mixing bowl with a bunch of tutes tossed in to it and placed in different houses. Exploration is the only answer. There may seem like a lot but most are concentrated within feet of each other over a small area of just a few streets. It is far from the massive sprawling RLD that Amsterdam is. T / E streets form a cross and most houses you or anyone have read about are all within a 2 min walk of this intersection.

Also keep in mind between Lanthano, Optimist and myself you are looking at three (all very nice) but extremely different guys when it comes to style, desires, tactics and so on. Lanthano and I seem to fish out of the same pond while Optimist who seeks much what I do fishes with better success elsewhere. There really is no rhyme or rhythm to the RLD, IMO one just has to go and start. Optimist seems to have luck in T34 while a guy I know asked for AO there and nearly got tossed out the window by a herd of angry girls.

FWIW a few great reports have been coming out of T27 recently, probably worth a peak. AO and non AO reports.

Since I am there so infrequently, for me I am going to stick to what works, only change a losing game and for me T32 and E44 work just great but I plan to work on T27 (coat tail a tad) and also check out T34 the Rote Haus. I know why Lanthano doesn't like it from his posts and from knowing him and having had many a mongering discussion but we vary greatly despite our common love for mongering and the enjoyment of filling others in thru writing. One reason he doesn't like it is why I think it may work for me and I combine that with what I know of the style of Optimist and I think I know exactly what to do in that place to hunt down a poorly behaved woman :D just reading between the lines of both gents.

I can give you one tip however that seems to also have been the same in Amsterdam. 15-25 years apart in the times I visited but the same holds true. In my experiences and I can not speak for any others there is a time when the girl in the window, the doorway, the stool outside etc engages the passing john in conversation. More times than not the girls who have tried to rush me in to the room and spend less time talking and / or answering questions are also the ones who are going to rush you the fuck out once the door closes. Pass on them. Most likely if you need an extra minute to cum or a little extra patience from her to get off you won't get it; instead you will get a ' times up' or ' more time will cost you more.' Play your cards right from the get go and avoid them.

Also, learn to read these girls eyes and it just isn't the eye contact. These girls read our eyes, I can see it, no pun intended. Do the same. I have yet to have one bad session in the RLD of Frankfurt, the opposite in AMS but I was also a kid back than, ran about a 65-75 percent rate of good sessions, so far (fingers crossed) I have yet to muff a punt in the RLD. Shooting fish in barrels if you play your cards right. I would also suggest to ' make a friend' on each floor who will point you to others who will take care of you.

[QUOTE=KosherKowboy;2263586]Also, learn to read these girls eyes and it just isn't the eye contact. These girls read our eyes, I can see it, no pun intended. Do the same. I have yet to have one bad session in the RLD of Frankfurt, the opposite in AMS but I was also a kid back than, ran about a 65-75 percent rate of good sessions, so far (fingers crossed) I have yet to muff a punt in the RLD. Shooting fish in barrels if you play your cards right. I would also suggest to ' make a friend' on each floor who will point you to others who will take care of you.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the quick reply KK. I will at least do a walk through of various places once on a weekday. I would perhaps go to Sharks one day, but these RLDs are enticing at 20 to 25. I am not into BBBJ or AO, so as long as the girl is friendly and ready for multiple positions with some LFK I would be all set.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2150486]Don't go to Palace. Convenient but one clear notch down from O or S. Personally I find Oase a bit sharky of all things and Sharks a bit more laid back. But that's just me. Either is great but skip Palace.[/QUOTE]Surprise surprise.

[I]Link to [b]your post[/b] : [post]2253320[/post][/I]

EC.

Just been on a trip down memory lane and found this which may help on the geography.

[URL]http://jako.dapnet.de/main-f.htm[/URL]

Jako did a great job. He was an awesone Master in this business. Not sure when it was last updated, but I do know it is still being used as a reference by German regulars

You mention pricing of 25 to 30. I rarely achieve that, being a foreigner, so don't be downhearted if you pay a bit more than the locals.

Take your time, find a girl who is relaxed and unhurried when talking at the door, and then you have more chance of finding a good service girl. I have even had girls sit and chat with me after the main part of the session, and share their beer (unusual, but not unknown), and even offer a second round for free (only happened once)

I am sorry I don't have any reliable update info on girls as I have not been for six months

Good luck

[QUOTE=Optimist;2264022]EC.

Just been on a trip down memory lane and found this which may help on the geography.

[URL]http://jako.dapnet.de/main-f.htm[/URL]

Jako did a great job. He was an awesone Master in this business. Not sure when it was last updated, but I do know it is still being used as a reference by German regulars

You mention pricing of 25 to 30. I rarely achieve that, being a foreigner, so don't be downhearted if you pay a bit more than the locals.

Take your time, find a girl who is relaxed and unhurried when talking at the door, and then you have more chance of finding a good service girl. I have even had girls sit and chat with me after the main part of the session, and share their beer (unusual, but not unknown), and even offer a second round for free (only happened once)

I am sorry I don't have any reliable update info on girls as I have not been for six months

Good luck[/QUOTE]A bit dated, E55 and BG 10 (unless I missed it each time) don't exist anymore. But still an ok reference.

I'm not sure how relaxed they'll be, it's still a mostly fast-food service there.

Want a good service girl? Pay more than standard or go to an FKK.

But yes, there are some there. Treat them with respect and often you'll get a good deal back. Don't be the usual shit that shows up in the RLD that makes me feel sorry for the girls there.

Lanthano. Thanks for the correction.

As for rld vs FKK, I'll bow out as I haven't been to rld for six months. In the past I always struck very lucky in rld, which is why I kept going back. The secret is largely as you say.

One bonus with rld girls is that I never found one who was in desperate financial need to rescue a sick relative from the jaws of death, and who declared to me that I was the only person in the world she could turn to for money lol "please help me, I have only you in the world"

[QUOTE=Optimist;2264022]EC.

Just been on a trip down memory lane and found this which may help on the geography.

[URL]http://jako.dapnet.de/main-f.htm[/URL]

Jako did a great job. He was an awesone Master in this business. Not sure when it was last updated, but I do know it is still being used as a reference by German regulars

You mention pricing of 25 to 30. I rarely achieve that, being a foreigner, so don't be downhearted if you pay a bit more than the locals.

[/QUOTE]Thanks very much Optimist. This map is great. I will heed your warning about the 25 to 30. That is a bummer then, and with my pickiness I may find it difficult to achieve that. But, I can do is easily walk away in general, so this good to know.

[QUOTE=Lanthano;2264030] Don't be the usual shit that shows up in the RLD that makes me feel sorry for the girls there.[/QUOTE]Apologies that I am not understanding this as I have not been to the RLD. Care to provide a bit more context? I always treat the providers with respect, so I am missing something.