Kyiv

You can use the Wifi in Borispil with your Gos. :P

And you said you were going to stay across from Manadrin Plaza, so who is BS'ing who here. Come on Bez, you aren't fooling anyone anymore. You aren't a budget minded province ho'er. The reports are already filter in from my spies at Decedance, seems like you spent the last two weeks there in the company of $500/hour ho's and 5k/week sugar babies. Yuri the bar man said you were dropping an easy 2k/night for bottle service, chicken wings and bubble gum for the girls.

Browsing through the recent discussion on UKR economy and exchange rates, I couldn't help but notice how far our dollar got hammered in recent years.

The last time I was in Keiv, was in Dec 2004, orange revolution time. An apartment in krischatic street was $45 a night. All nighter with a russian blonde from RP was $150 ( I think) and I bought a last minute air ticket from Kiev to Lviv for just $60. And the freebe who stayed with me for 2 days and took me to her apartment also ..... priceless.

Yup, Royal it was good times back then. 1k/month for a great western apartment in Maidan or within site of Mandarin Plaza. The RP girls were running $100-$150 for the night. GIA was still priced ok. The salons were running $40-$80. But you can still get cheap airfares. :)

But even as good as that was, we (I) missed the 'wanna fuck, I'm American' days. Or 'I'll buy you diner for sex' during the Ruble crash of 1998.

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]

You said you stay across from Manadrin Plaza.

Bez, you aren't fooling anyone anymore.
You aren't a budget minded provincer.

The spies at Decedance see you in the company of 5k/week sugar babies.
Yuri said you drop 2k/night for girls.

[/QUOTE]

Your agents must have been tailing my identical twin, Udre Bezarra, small arms dealer and large living monger, he prefers to shoot .22 caliber KGB Markov well placed rounds into targets like Galina Krasnopizd's eye socket.

I, on the other foot, AM foolin' everyone, in fact, I can fool most of the fools most of the time, but not too early please!

But so what if when I'm passing through and camped out holed up with a couple of 3-holers in a flat next door to the Fortuna Cigarny Bar on Beseynya Ul.! Its not like I'm sleeping INSIDE the Prada store!

As far as $5,000 per week models, you're just completely wrong as usual, but I think at this point, that your point is simply to write the most innacurate posts in an effort to fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shamus on George W?

That's why 15 out of my 17 nites, I was right back home, hangin wth Mr. Kupervich, and my new freebie Darva, who has an apple of a popa.

For the mongering record though, I would like to go down for posterity, that I, one Beznarkoff Guzzouli Wolfrick von Schmucklestien Bezarra LLC LTD & Sons, did my very absolute almost best to initiate a monger-gatherin' last Saturday in K-City, and was re-boofed by all those parties who you know who you are, especially that LS Gay, who blew off a confirmed meetin' o' the ISG Klan, for none other than some little pieces of pizda, two in suck-cession, might I add, one "regular old gal-pal, but she's got free food!", in light of the historic proportion of the occasion, left the Bez holding, (and squeezing), the bagpipe bag!

So let it be known, (Admin that's you!), that next time around fall '09, when Bez hits Mandarin Plaza, it might just not be with Alyssa, 18 year old hard charging tennis star wannabe that had only posted her page one day before a friend and big titty loving monger himself looked her up and tipped me off to call her, turns out she was very VERY much quite the little eager beaver to meet up at Fridays at 11:30, and without so much as a, "can I buy ya a drink?", walked right out from the foyer with me, passed through the empty Bessarabka, past the Bentley's in Mandarin, and into the lair I had concocted to which the ultra-debauching of her one-month old post-op 38D breast implants, I performed another Doctor Skank method gifting program of a very cheap black lace see through neglige' teddy bear nighty.

Thanks to this well tested and approved monger pre-sex labia moistening technique, I simply told her I had been waiting all along for a dyev like her, to model this sleep wear, so she became excited and grabbed the thing right out of my hands, and into the tyualet, proceeded to strip down to nothing, and emerge all fresh implants and beaver in this nighty, practically blowing up the capital city with her insane perfect body. Ok, I'll admit her face was nothing inspiring, but not a problem either, with very soft skin and lots of smiles, thick and very healthy dark brown hair that she twirled all around the Bez Johnson while deep-throating, but as I said, a strong shouldered athletic freaky Kiev girl, on the prowl for a passin-through monger. Boy did I get lucky! She rocked my damn world, and surprised the hell out of me with her ultra-horny tennis style sex romp, grinding her pussy so hard into my jaw as she sat on my face, that its still sore from the mashing she inflicted upon me.

All this, when I only expected to go grab a brew or two with some monger ex-pat from Springfield, little did the Bez know this no-show was gonna lead me to a very memorable session with my first and only 18 year old Ukrainian implant amazon girl with an insatiable appetite for cock. My only regret is that she did NOT want to allow me to share my wonderful luck with the board, as she insisted NO FOTOS of her or her impressive 38D's. what a shame! She was quite a site, if you could imagine any of the new crop of WTA tennis stars, about 5'8", extremely solidly built shoulders, but not an ounce of fat, all muscle, and now to add as well, all tits, squatting down leg thrusts, and huffing puffing grunting with each and every beef injection inside her twat, man what a work out! I wish I could say that she nearly killed me, but that I had been working out daily and nightly for 2 straight weeks in the provinces, to prepare myself for this 3 set match against a very intimidating opponent, she stared me down like some breakfast sausage, and gobbled my rod like there was no tomorrow.

After I splooged a sticky spurting onto her smiling cheeks which she rubbed in for a healthy zit-free complexion, she thanked me and bear hugged me, and was off into the night for a taksi homeward to her grandmother's doma, leaving me with a wild and crazy story that could have only been a result, ONCE AGAIN, of the weird and wacky circumstances of this monger-haven we call ISG!

Myabe I DO need to spend a little more time here in Kyiv? I must say, all my complaining about prices being too high, didn't come to fruition this time around, as Nataly was not complaining for the $150 I gave her for the 2 hours she fuck-fested with me for our post-provincial follow up session, and Alyssa never even mentioned dengi during our entire evening together, so I slid 400 hrivna into her purse when she was leaving. Perhaps she will think Bez to be a cheapo-lay, though I believe she was in it for the thrash, over the cash, and subsequently left with her own ear-to ear huy sucking grin.

As I mentioned with GREAT regret, sorry but no after-match neglige' modeling fotos with Alyssa, but she is in Kyiv, if you wanna find her, she hangs in Independence square with her tennis program girlfriends.

So, Darva in the provinces with her cute little and very spankable apple-popa:

[QUOTE=Cruiser D]Yup, Royal it was good times back then. 1k/month for a great western apartment in Maidan or within site of Mandarin Plaza. The RP girls were running $100-$150 for the night. GIA was still priced ok. The salons were running $40-$80. But you can still get cheap airfares. :)

But even as good as that was, we (I) missed the 'wanna fuck, I'm American' days. Or 'I'll buy you diner for sex' during the Ruble crash of 1998.[/QUOTE]

Start thinking Ruble crash of 1998 and move back in time from there CD. Reasonably safe to predict that we will see UKr. and EE getting back to those times from this Xmas on. It is going to be a great Monger Spring in EE once again. Just be sure to keep your powder dry and enjoy. Bez B will think he died (again) and is in 3-hole heaven once more. It is gonna be brutal for the Young Players but the Old Hands will thrive.

Prepare to Hang in and Enjoy. Oh yes - no longer will the good ladies be turning up their noses at the puny US $ - until it crashes again, IMO, along with super high interest rates in 12-18 months. I can hardly wait.

[url]http://www.advfn.com/news_UPDATE-2-IMF-Ukraine-agree-on-16-5-billion-loan-deal_28947523.html[/url]

Sorry to intervene but the ones who have been hit till now by the economic crisis in this forum are the mongers who cannot get easy credit to visit FSU and not the local women.

Ukraine is on the path of recession,not collapse.Wages in terms of US dollars stand now in the same level as one year ago,at 310$ per month.

I have written that the limit of 300$ per month decides for the girls' attitude,if it is surpassed,chances to get freebies get considerably lower.(for example you may start getting one freebie per week only which is economically unacceptable).

So unless the wages fall under the 300$ per month,we will see no real improvement in condition in Ukraine for pussy investors.

[QUOTE=Excess]Start thinking Ruble crash of 1998 and move back in time from there CD. Reasonably safe to predict that we will see UKr. and EE getting back to those times from this Xmas on. It is going to be a great Monger Spring in EE once again. Just be sure to keep your powder dry and enjoy. Bez B will think he died (again) and is in 3-hole heaven once more. It is gonna be brutal for the Young Players but the Old Hands will thrive.

Prepare to Hang in and Enjoy. Oh yes - no longer will the good ladies be turning up their noses at the puny US $ - until it crashes again, IMO, along with super high interest rates in 12-18 months. I can hardly wait.

[url]http://www.advfn.com/news_UPDATE-2-IMF-Ukraine-agree-on-16-5-billion-loan-deal_28947523.html[/url][/QUOTE]


looking at EUR/USD appreicated to 1.6 level and now back to 1.2, thinking that crude oil price climbed from 50$ to 150$ per barrel and now is below 80$, everything is NOT predictable anymore

For beginner mongers who wish to come to Ukraine.

It is hard to sum up all information from this forum and from my experiences into few words. I try to put here what can help foreigners in Ukraine and nobody says that. I am sure you will save a lot of money with my report!

First of all, about men. Too many men think when a woman is beautiful, then she can ask everything. Too many men think it is right to be a gentleman with women. Too many men have hard lives with women in their own countries and they hope to find good women in Ukraine. Too many men think pussy fuck is more important than money. Too many men don’t know sex is an art and this is not just a sperm download. Too many men don’t know the sweetest women can provide the worst sexual perversions to the ugliest and oldest men in the world for cheap. Too many men don’t know women stay with a man just for a temporary convenience. Etc. If this is your condition, please don't come to Ukraine. Ukraine is for tough mongers who can get the best sex with very little money. Go to Thailand or Brasil, cheaper and easier!

Ukraine, Ukrainian economy and Ukrainian women have too many connections with Western business, such as a lot of "agencies", "salons", "sites" in Kiev are owned by European or American or Australian men, therefore you expect to receive Western style P4P, little sex for big money. This is not worth a travel to Ukraine for P4P purpose. Remember prices and services informed by Internet sites, River Palace, Patipa, and so on. 100/150$ for a hour of a bad covered blowjob and a bad missionary fuck: this is a further evidence that men are stupid! Master mongers sometimes write about exciting sessions, but they forget to write those sessions are uncommon and GFE sex with beautiful women is rare also in Ukraine. Or do you think a woman becomes beautiful only because she gives her pussy to you?

I read Kiev was the origin of Russian people, but in the past! Now I see in Kiev too many women who have a Mediterranean or Turkish appearance more than a Russian look.

Recession? Where is the economic recession? Not with Ukrainian women! P4P prices continue to go up although the world recession. OK we negotiate prices with 1, 10, 50 women and prices are always high. No matter about services, swallow blowjobs and anal sex are usual with Ukrainian men, but not with foreigners! Go to strip clubs, Ukrainian men often get swallow blowjobs or more, no matter for foreigners. Go to massage salons, Ukrainian men often get swallow blowjobs or more, no matter for foreigners. This means only one thing: no respect. And do you like to pay a woman who has no respect of you?

Beginner mongers, come to Ukraine only for good business or hard mongering, otherwise try experience elsewhere, cheaper and easier!

AC, are you joking? Or just trying to reduce competition? Do you really use swallowing to measure the respect? Is really saving money the point? Shouldn't be how to get the best sex?

I agree that UA is not cheap and sometime also not easy. Ukrainian women LIKE sex but not CHEAP men (pocket and brain). They have a lot of pride and you have to deal with this.
Anyway here I continue to experience definitely the best and wildest sex, and always with stunning looking women.

Sex quality and GFE matter a lot for me and honestly being a (not stupid) gentleman had a big payoff most of times. GFE is what I want and what I get. Do women stay with me for temporary convenience? So what? I also have temporary fun with them. Do I spend a lot on them? I don't think so. Looking at the ratio GFE/spending I don't regret one cent. Is pussy most important than money? I'm happier when I sleep with a hottie than when I sleep with banknotes. Is the wildest sex only for locals? Not my personal experience.

Each of us has different behaviours, according to our priorities and goals. I'm absolutely happy with my experience here. Do you think my way makes a harder life for mongers like you? I don't think so... anyway who cares?

[QUOTE=Acolonizer]For beginner mongers who wish to come to Ukraine.

It is hard to sum up all information from this forum and from my experiences into few words. I try to put here what can help foreigners in Ukraine and nobody says that. I am sure you will save a lot of money with my report!

First of all, about men. Too many men think when a woman is beautiful, then she can ask everything. Too many men think it is right to be a gentleman with women. Too many men have hard lives with women in their own countries and they hope to find good women in Ukraine. Too many men think pussy fuck is more important than money. Too many men don’t know sex is an art and this is not just a sperm download. Too many men don’t know the sweetest women can provide the worst sexual perversions to the ugliest and oldest men in the world for cheap. Too many men don’t know women stay with a man just for a temporary convenience. Etc. If this is your condition, please don't come to Ukraine. Ukraine is for tough mongers who can get the best sex with very little money. Go to Thailand or Brasil, cheaper and easier!

Ukraine, Ukrainian economy and Ukrainian women have too many connections with Western business, such as a lot of "agencies", "salons", "sites" in Kiev are owned by European or American or Australian men, therefore you expect to receive Western style P4P, little sex for big money. This is not worth a travel to Ukraine for P4P purpose. Remember prices and services informed by Internet sites, River Palace, Patipa, and so on. 100/150$ for a hour of a bad covered blowjob and a bad missionary fuck: this is a further evidence that men are stupid! Master mongers sometimes write about exciting sessions, but they forget to write those sessions are uncommon and GFE sex with beautiful women is rare also in Ukraine. Or do you think a woman becomes beautiful only because she gives her pussy to you?

I read Kiev was the origin of Russian people, but in the past! Now I see in Kiev too many women who have a Mediterranean or Turkish appearance more than a Russian look.

Recession? Where is the economic recession? Not with Ukrainian women! P4P prices continue to go up although the world recession. OK we negotiate prices with 1, 10, 50 women and prices are always high. No matter about services, swallow blowjobs and anal sex are usual with Ukrainian men, but not with foreigners! Go to strip clubs, Ukrainian men often get swallow blowjobs or more, no matter for foreigners. Go to massage salons, Ukrainian men often get swallow blowjobs or more, no matter for foreigners. This means only one thing: no respect. And do you like to pay a woman who has no respect of you?

Beginner mongers, come to Ukraine only for good business or hard mongering, otherwise try experience elsewhere, cheaper and easier![/QUOTE]

If any new people read this, ignore everything thats written!

I am getting more and more to believe he's never even been to Ukraine.

In fact I believe he tells tales better than Hans Christian Anderson.

What salons, sites and agencies are owned by Americans Europeans and Australians? Do you get the whole way business is done here? I guess NOT.

And yes we get it you give no women any respect! So what?

Your post is no help, its a shitty opinion miss guided and false and should be treated as such.

AC -

For newbies, just follow the examples of many but you sir, you seem to be negative about anybody that visits the EE looking for sex. If you have problems, guess what? You have problems, that doens't mean others will.

Hecker -

Okay I give up, your saying wages are attached to pussy? So the less money you make, the more your inclinded to be involved in P4P trade?

Wouldn't that also mean that men looking for services have less money to spend on sex???

Sorry it doesn't make sense to me....

[QUOTE=DJ FourMoney]AC -

For newbies, just follow the examples of many but you sir, you seem to be negative about anybody that visits the EE looking for sex. If you have problems, guess what? You have problems, that doens't mean others will.

Hecker -

Okay I give up, your saying wages are attached to pussy? So the less money you make, the more your inclinded to be involved in P4P trade?

Wouldn't that also mean that men looking for services have less money to spend on sex???

Sorry it doesn't make sense to me....[/QUOTE]What is that?I wrote that there is a natural limit of wages which in my opinion is at 300$ which sets the difference in freebie attitude,in fact it determines if you can get massive quantities of freebies in limited time.

In the last year wages in Ukraine surpassed this limit approaching even 420$ in July.With the crisis they have been hit but they still stand at 315$,above the 300$ limit.

For example if you go to a place and you cannot bed a freebie inside 3 days,the place is not worth visiting because there are other places where this is possible.

For example in 2003 when the wages were 87$ on average,you could go every night to a different club in Kiev and every night go to bed with a different girl you met at the club.Now there are scammers,proffesional daters,etc and it is almost impossible to get laid inside 3 days in Kiev,neither you get one night stands by visiting the clubs let's say Friday,Saturday.There are reasons for that.

Most people seem to foreget that money paid on scammers and professional daters and time lost and money paid on plane tickets and accomodation should all be added when estimating the ratio of qualityXquantity/costXtime.

For Qjump: instead I know Ukrainian mindset very well and statistics speak up. Your opinion is shit! Facts are facts! In general, crazy prices for bad services. A real GFE is rare in comparison of calls and meetings that we have.

Facts and evidences! How many Ukrainian girls make deepthroat cum injections for 30/50 euros? Until last year, here in Italy all Ukrainian girls have usually made deepthroat cum injections for 30/50 euros. Why not in Kiev? Why not usual for foreigners? Why not for 100$ too?

Do you believe to help people to talk about fairy tales? Why do you write about fairy tales? We pay for a service, why women want just to cheat us? We know all Ukrainian women are hot and they like real sex. Do you know what is real sex? That's one name: royal blowjob! When a woman doesn't make a royal blowjob, that means she doesn't have real sex: that's it! There is no further opinions! This is the only real fact. Full stop!

I have been to Kiev six times in a year and I don't need to evidence anything to you! Instead I am very sad when I see a lot of gentlemen, not like you, in Kiev waste their money for female vampires. And I become more sad when I see ta lot of gentlemen are happy just because they fuck vaginally a beautiful girl, who is not worth her price definitely.

Ac, you need to change the way you do things. Has it gotten a lot harder in Kyiv, sure but not too hard. The simplest advice I can give is avoid girls you know you are going to have a bad time with. Have a drink with a girl in RP before you take her home, chat with her. In 5 minutes time you should be able to tell if she's worth it. Don't go throwing time and money at a girl because you have to have her. It's a plan for failure.

Westerners do not control any facet of the Kyiv p4p scene. It is control by local organized crime, the politicians and the police. Of course sometimes this is one entity in Kyiv. :)

T66, nice to see you back.

well, not all the AC says is wrong. when i need a quick hardcore bang, it's usually Germany and Fkks that do it to me.

Russia and Ukraine are no longer the haven that was 12 years ago; but for a semi-pro romantic time with a hottie, it's still FINE.