Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2976523]Eh, soi 6 has 30 bars? In 2022 there were 78, and I think it hasn't changed much since then.
https://www.mikebaird-amusingthaicartoons.com/pattaya-maps-2023

And Soi Bukhao is very long, with many bars. Although 1000 is obviously an exaggaration.[/QUOTE]I can't see 78 doors in that kind of sois. 78 bars would mean 78 doors and at least 78 units.

1000 bars in buakhow? I have not done the math, but I bet the whole stretch of road is appr 2 km, being generous. That means a bar every 5 meters.

Whoever has been there knows there is plenty of other businesses in that road.

[QUOTE=BionicMan;2976587]I can't see 78 doors in that kind of sois. 78 bars would mean 78 doors and at least 78 units.[/QUOTE]Just count the bars on the map. It looks quite accurate to me.
Don't forget that Soi 6 is about 300 to 400 meters long, and there are many small bars. And there are even some other businesses, like barbers, a weed shop, and a pharmacy.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2976569]The place seems to be filled with clients every time I passed by. In fact, every time I have tried to go in, there was no place to sit. That must say something. Either other punters don't have the same taste in ladies as you do, or they don't post all the lady's photos on their social media or advertising.[/QUOTE]It's not hard to understand why the place is packed. I highly doubt the customers going in that place are going there to barfine the women.

First of all, the women are of very low quality, mid thirty and up for almost all of them, a mix of unattractive fat and or old women like the ones we see all over Buakhao.

Secondly, the crowd going there is probably 90% old expats living on the cheap side around Buakhao, and maybe 10% of frequent visitors in Thailand who probably know better places to go and get a woman to fuck.

I've been there 3 or 4 times during my last visit in Pattaya and couldn't see a single good looking woman I would want to spend money on in that place, except maybe one slim girl covered with tattoos upstairs in their small VIP room. She is probably the one they put all over their facebook page, but she's got nothing special, and price of everything is more expensive upstairs than downstairs (customer's drink, ladydrink and barfine are more expensive), and the room is very small too, so just a few customers in and the place is already packed, and the girl is already taken of course.

The only reason that makes the place attractive is because it's free hassle and price of drinks are cheap. You can go there, enjoy the ambiance in a fresh and clean place, watching some women dancing in their bikinis (a few topless) in front of you, while your sipping your 95 baht cold Heineken and nobody come bothering you, no staff coming every 10 minutes to check your bill and look how long you've been sitting there. Conclusion, you can get a cold drink for one hour and spend only 100 baht, that's the primary reason people are going there.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2976569]About that whole Soi in general. I neglected to mention Play Girlz as one of my regular places. I have a VIP card there that gets me 20% off all purchases. I love this place because it has that go go bar exterior on the outside, but when you get in there, it's really a high class gents club. Most of the ladies are hot. I also like the shows they put on. Reminds me of the old Angel witch in nana plaza in Bangkok.[/QUOTE]Been there once around midnight 3 months ago and didn't see anything you described.

To me it looked like a low level gogo place, nothing high class at all. They've got the same tactic of trying to sell tequilas to every customers, the girls were not good looking and the show was very uninteresting. Didn't feel the need to check the place a second time, that's how bad it was.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2976742]Just count the bars on the map. It looks quite accurate to me.
Don't forget that Soi 6 is about 300 to 400 meters long, and there are many small bars. And there are even some other businesses, like barbers, a weed shop, and a pharmacy.[/QUOTE]Exactly, I could count at least 75 just from memory, and I probably forgot a few too.

Some of the bars are still closed too, like Envy or The Pussy bar, and there are still places available in the soi.

Another thing is the bigger bars are slowly being divided in multiple bars too, so the soi has easily 80 operating bars.

[QUOTE=Mogwai;2976742]Just count the bars on the map. It looks quite accurate to me.
Don't forget that Soi 6 is about 300 to 400 meters long, and there are many small bars. And there are even some other businesses, like barbers, a weed shop, and a pharmacy.[/QUOTE]I can see 81 bars in Soi 6.

You can count them up from this place: [URL]https://arc.net/e/E9A49AFB-5C41-4B14-BB0F-2368762E0A9E[/URL]

[U]Heaven Above[/U]

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2976788]I've been there 3 or 4 times during my last visit in Pattaya and couldn't see a single good looking woman I would want to spend money on in that place,
Been there once around midnight 3 months ago and didn't see anything you described.

[u]Play Girlz[/u]

To me it looked like a low level gogo place, nothing high class at all. They've got the same tactic of trying to sell tequilas to every customers, the girls were not good looking and the show was very uninteresting. Didn't feel the need to check the place a second time, that's how bad it was.[/QUOTE]Where are your reviews of the places where YOU think the girls are attractive? Please give prices for bar fines and social sexual services. I personally would appreciate it.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2976569]I have heard some good things about Heaven Above and seen some photos of some of the ladies. There are in my opinion 3 nice ones there. About the service, I have heard it is very comparable to Club Fate which makes me very interested to try it. The girls will pretty much do anything from what I understand. The place seems to be filled with clients every time I passed by. In fact, every time I have tried to go in, there was no place to sit. That must say something. Either other punters don't have the same taste in ladies as you do, or they don't post all the lady's photos on their social media or advertising. Have you been there before? If so I'm really interested in a more specific review from you. That would help me a lot. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Here's my take on Heaven Above during my visit last week. Downstairs had close to 30 girls. Had the agogo vibe with loud music, uniformed bikinis & dance rotation every 15 minutes. Quality wasn't great. I spotted maybe two 8's. Took 1 of them to the small VIP area upstairs. Music wasn't as loud so you can actually talk. She also took off her top once upstairs so I can play with her natural BS. There were a dozen ladies upstairs. All seem older and weren't in the prescribed bikinis. Only 1 other gentleman upstairs. The VIP room had more of a gents club vibe. I guess that's what they meant by agogo and gents club hybrid. Definitely can get a bit more fun in the VIP room but not the same naughtiness as Club Fate.

[QUOTE=Paolo99;2976788]It's not hard to understand why the place is packed. I highly doubt the customers going in that place are going there to barfine the women.

First of all, the women are of very low quality, mid thirty and up for almost all of them, a mix of unattractive fat and or old women like the ones we see all over Buakhao.

Secondly, the crowd going there is probably 90% old expats living on the cheap side around Buakhao, and maybe 10% of frequent visitors in Thailand who probably know better places to go and get a woman to fuck.[/QUOTE]So why is Billabong always packed? Looks like my standards must not be as high as 95% of the people on the board, yet that is a place even I would not spend time.

[QUOTE=EverythingThai;2976569]I have heard some good things about Heaven Above and seen some photos of some of the ladies. There are in my opinion 3 nice ones there. About the service, I have heard it is very comparable to Club Fate which makes me very interested to try it. The girls will pretty much do anything from what I understand. The place seems to be filled with clients every time I passed by. In fact, every time I have tried to go in, there was no place to sit. That must say something. Either other punters don't have the same taste in ladies as you do, or they don't post all the lady's photos on their social media or advertising. Have you been there before? If so I'm really interested in a more specific review from you. That would help me a lot.[/QUOTE]You've heard of YMMV (your opinion may be different than others, basically)? I would not discount anyone's opinion or advice here, but I just returned home from a week in Pattaya. I went into Heaven Above, and ended up going every night I was there. For me, (65, decent shape), I found the girls to be young to middle-aged (22-36), friendly, and very service-oriented. First night I went at 10 pm and every girl was topless, probably 30 girls. I drank, talked, bought them lady drinks, took a couple upstairs, and then bar fined two. Same next night and again, 2 or 3 every night back to my hotel. If you are on a budget, maybe not for you. I was not, and only there for a week, so I was free with buying lady drinks and never wanted for company. I found the variety of girls quite satisfying. They'll rub your dick thru your pants and French kiss you openly, and anything you want upstairs. I never saw a BJ in the open downstairs. I hope this helps and offers an alternative opinion of Heaven Above. Not my first trip to Pattaya, I've been to Soi 6, gentlemen's clubs, and massage places. For me, Heaven Above was truly Heaven.

[QUOTE=HSendatsu;2976841]I can see 81 bars in Soi 6.

You can count them up from this place: [URL]https://arc.net/e/E9A49AFB-5C41-4B14-BB0F-2368762E0A9E[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting map, never seen it before.

Good to estimate the number of bars, but still quite inaccurate. NONE of the bars on the left side of the map have ladyboys as stated (Thai rose, Omega, Love missile, O bar etc.).

Also it's missing some bars (Gold bar for example).

[QUOTE=HSendatsu;2976841]I can see 81 bars in Soi 6.

You can count them up from this place: [URL]https://arc.net/e/E9A49AFB-5C41-4B14-BB0F-2368762E0A9E[/URL][/QUOTE]That map is not up to date.

Many bars have been divided in smaller ones since that map have been done.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2976965]So why is Billabong always packed?[/QUOTE]Billabong?

I don't know this place.

[QUOTE=Intrepid123;2977014]Interesting map, never seen it before.

Good to estimate the number of bars, but still quite inaccurate. NONE of the bars on the left side of the map have ladyboys as stated (Thai rose, Omega, Love missile, O bar etc.).

Also it's missing some bars (Gold bar for example).[/QUOTE]Thai Rose is full of LB, but I agree that Omega or Avarice doesn't have any.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2976953][U]Heaven Above[/U]

Where are your reviews of the places where YOU think the girls are attractive? Please give prices for bar fines and social sexual services. I personally would appreciate it.[/QUOTE]Almost exclusively Soi 6, prices, services are dependent on the girl. Not that they are the most attractive, but that's where I found the best mix between young age, attractiveness and price. Service is another story, but lately I had a better luck than in November 2022 for example.

I could occasionally take from gogos on Walking Street like Iron, but it's too expensive for my taste.

I don't post reviews about these anymore because it would be too repetitive, but you can find at least 5 from me with the search function "soi6" around December 2022 like this one post "36480": [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2186-Pattaya-Reports&p=2770475&highlight=soi6[/URL]#post2770475.

Last trip I made the mistake of taking back a freelance girl working in one of the bars around Buakhao and I did regret it. I occasionally go have a look at gent clubs discussed here, but never saw anything interesting there.

Thanks everyone for your reviews. Seems it all boils down to perception and YMMV.