Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Yes, but you are LuckyEddie

[quote=cuero99; 1131947]sounds very nice. but does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? and when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

if i'm supposed to be sincere and faithful i would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when i just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if i force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. [/quote]+1.

even if 'bandit' was used as a figure of speech, the term still speaks for something that didn't sound good.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Eddie, you are my hero. Really

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie; 1131821]This is so true [B]in the US[/B].

But in a 3rd world country with a 3rd world girlfriend who has a decent job [B]it is exactly the opposite. [/B]

My current girl is on the pill, no kids, all 3 inputs open for business, swallows, totally GFE, freak in bed, has her own bedroom in an apartment she shares with her sister and answers to no one. The family lives 4 hours away on the outskirts and every member has a job.

I pay for the cine twice a month, dinner once a week and many times we just watch TV and bum around the mall. She gets up at 5:30AM to get to the office by 7:30AM and when she gets home at 6:30PM she has to cook her lunch for the next day. She's dog tired. We are not in a discoteque every night. I am the one having to drag her out.

On my birthday she took [B]me [/B]out and pays for dinner in Lleras. When she got her year end bonus she took [B]me [/B]out for drinks.

What I spend on her a month has to be under 200K. She is a 1-2 drink maximum. I do spend a good deal on gift days like birthday, Chirstmas, Dia de Amor Amistad.

But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit. [/QUOTE]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it!

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1131821]... But for the sex and good times and being able to parade all around town with a sharp, well spoken, college educated, hottie (who has never accepted money for sex, has never been passed around the gringo circuit, isn't on MSN Messenger or dating websites trolling for soon to be visiting vacationers, nor has slept with half the guys in town) I am making out like a bandit.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Cuero99; 1131947]Sounds very nice. But does or will this girl have a desire to "advance" the relationship sooner or later? And when you get bored or it ends, will it end with drama or tears?

I'm not you but if I was living and dating locally in Medellin or Lima Peru which is my other frequent destination and possibly a permanent one soon, I'd actually feel better if part of any relationship with a non-pro was based on some kind of financial support to supplement her meager income. Because I always crave variety and hate being tied down I would also make clear the relationship be explicitly NSA. If I'm supposed to be sincere and faithful I would suffer from one of two negative feelings, either guilt when I just have to tap some new strange and lie to my girl about that or worse, risk being found out, or "caged-in" if I force myself to be unnaturally monogamous living in a place of pussy abundance. [/QUOTE]I have to agree with the LuckyEddie on this.

It sure is nice to hang with a girl who makes her own money, won't accept financial support and would actually be offended if you tried, and is with you because she really does like you.

I still haven't found that type relationship in Colombia, never have, but I have it now in Brazil.

It's nice.

Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1131991]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it![/QUOTE]Hahaha. I'm with ya Heat, lots of these chicas are 'playas', but surely not all of them.

Believe it or not, there are some keepers out there.

Hasta pronto.

[QUOTE=JersheyShore; 1131139]. I'm traveling with 8 other Italian-Americans for a bachelor party. All of us in our 30's good looking and in great shape. Fun to party with and not shy on spending $.

We just secured a hellacious pad and ready to take Cartagena. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Gonzo;1131613]Good one Ricker, Costagena![/QUOTE][QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1131813]I propose: Goombagena, or Guidogena[/QUOTE]Oh brother, feels like I blinked and everything changed.

That's cool though, just hangin' in new places.

[QUOTE=MiamiHeatLuver;1131991]Do you live in Medellin full time? Or just visit frequently and / or for long periods of time? Does she have Facebook? Take a look at what and which guys post on her wall or who's wall she posts on. Chances are that's who's she's banging when you leave town. Or if not thats her "dick in a glass case" "break in case of emergency" novio when she feels like it or if you fuck up. If she tells you that she doesn't have Facebook it's a lie beacause every single Colombiana i know under 30 has one. They will create 2 or more profiles. 1 sanitized that she will share with you and one for her friends using pseudo names like (Princessa 89) and things like this. I figured its best to not be "friends" with girls I become serious with because it just adds to much pressure and stress to a relationship. Just enjoy the time when we are together and thatssss it![/QUOTE]HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you. No harm no foul. I appreciate the help.

I am here full time since 2003, speak fluent spanish although with an accent. I've been in the game and know all the tricks in the book. I honestly feel I can spot the liar. Matter of fact it is practically all of them!

I never leave town. Yes, she has Facebook, like 60 friends, no gringos and just moved to Medellin 9 months ago and we hooked up on her 2nd month here. Beforehand she worked for the mayor's office in her pueblo and had a steady boyfriend there since highschool. They broke up about 6 months before she moved here. I have access to her computer and such and don't need to spy. But I could if I wanted to.

She has one cell phone, no primos hanging around, no gaps on her resume and again, has only been in Medellin for 9 months. She doesn't NEED me and doesn't admit to hating Colombian men (that is the lie to watch for). She doesn't see my facebook and I don't see hers. It's really not necessary. If she is banging anyone it would have to be somoene in her office. They would have to be going at it in the closet and every one would know as her office is run by women.

Honestly? I don't really care.

The trick is living here and being able to get girls with options (ie: pretty young girls with a lot going for them). You need to stick it out with them for a while. These girls are financially secure with their shit half together, generally get good Colombian guys. Those guys do exist.

These girls are not really looking to leave the country permanently but are open and really would just love to travel. But they want to be here with their family and friends and have no problem saying so. These girls hooking up with a foreigner who happens to be here on a one week vacation, or with some foreigner who lives here but doesn't speak the language, or with any guy, foreigner or Colombian, who is way out of her league, well, does not have a shot with her. For her this is just not an option.

Just imagine yourself here and having to compromise with having to be with Rosie O' Donnell or some other fat 40 something year old. Why don't you do that old lady when you are here? Because like the really great girls you too also have choices.

These girls, like every girl on the planet, want to converse with their boyfriends,"how was your day?" and don't want to be embarrased walking down the street with someone totally not in their league. Image is very important here.

So why am I rambling on about this? Not just because the guy I quoted in my original post, who said non pros cost more than pros, struck a chord. But all the rest of you: Practically every guy on here is looking for girlfriend experience. GFE is mentioned in every post about hookers.

It is great having a steady slampiece and being able to fool around on the side in the PFP arena, but seriously? When you got a hottie with no restrictions and no condoms it's tough in bed wearing a rubber with a skank who's fucking half the town for 35K a pop.

For the record I do hit the casas and putas now and then but don't consider that a big no no. Although this girl is in my league, she is under 30 and if things don't work out noone really got screwed. Yeah there will be tears when the breakup happens but know what? There's tears when the break happens in any country. So what? My intentions are good.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1132008]Now do I still get that craving for variety and the chase? Of course.

For me that's where the PFP comes in to play, and I dabble in that for some fun and I have to accept that's who I am, but I do enjoy eventually coming back to the girl who digs me. [/QUOTE]And there you have it. I'm in the same boat. Ricker as you probably know what you have in your neck of Brazil was available here 6, 8.10 years ago. Nowadays the girls here are so inundated with gringos that finding what you have is actually too much work and at times nearly impossible. A lot more accessable in brazil.

Another motivation I have is I HATE wearing rubbers and / or shooting my load in mid air. Also having more options than BBBJCIM is nice. BBBJ is all good but I like blasting my load deep in raw pussy and then spending the night in bed, waking up the next morning and doing that all over again. I am old enough to never allow myself to be in the position where I can't wait until she leaves.

OK, nuff said. Bottom line the girlfrind thing, here in a 3rd world country with non desperate girls, is cheaper than working girls here AND definately cheaper than US girlfriends.

[QUOTE=LuckyEddie;1132063]HeatLuver. I would ask the same questions if I were you.[/QUOTE]Of course I ask myself the same questions. I wrote the book on devilish vieja behavior. Never want to be labeled as the Wester Union Novio or the Gringo Pato. Je je LOL Good luck keep doing your thing and see what happens.

in fll waiting for flight just got back. cartagena was good. lots of pics. beach was awesome friday but died on weekend probably barranquilla carnaval. still was good.

ldv only went there twice some lookers tagged team a blonde for 125k each great body.

electra some hot ones last night but we got there at 3am it opens at 2am. lots of lookers we took 2 to go lol.

nice ones there too.

beach girls were 50-100k pesos. [28-55 dollars more or less]

beach was there at playa hollywood 100 feet wide but still alright.

youcan's take on tony accurate he seems to be a little timid being a little focker now.

it was a pleasure locogringo and speedbump. i will post few pics later tomarrow.

This is probably my 4th or 5th report on Cartagena. To be honest, as LDV and Elektra are the focus of my attention not much else changes except the prices and currency exchange rates. But in the interests of giving back I'll report anyway.

This may have been my first time visiting in February. It was a perfect time. The weather, although windy, was perfect. Sunny every day and warm but not oppressively so. The weather in this trip allowed me to roam around centro a lot more and reminded me that CTG is probably one of the most beautiful cities in South America.

LDV:

LDV has barely changed in 5 years, Although the exchange rates have changed, the volume of chicas is the same. I don't recognise the reports other mongers have made that the place is now dominated by hardcore putas. In fact, what I find incredible about LDV and Colombia in general is that although a girl may have worked there for years, if you treat her right she could still be very GFE.

Prices: I think it's realistic to get TLN for $200. $250COP. This is in my experience. However, I always bought plenty of drinks which no doubt softened them up. So maybe add £100kCOP to this for the actual price.

Elektra:

This is the place where everyone goes at the end of the night. The dregs of all Cartagena's puti clubs arrive at Elektra from 4am. This includes: Isis, Queens, LDV, Pleybey and infiintely more places. Prices are a complete free-for all. Probably a minimum of $150kCOP for whatever time you can negotiate. Good fun.

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As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero.

A little more info.

I ran into a hostel in Centro not far from Electra it is called ElviaJeroHostels at

[url]http://www.hostelcartagena.com/en/hostel-cartagena/tarifas-hostel[/url]

Rooms seem cheap chica friendly? Not sure.

Also a Intercontinental and a Sheridan is getting built in Bocagrande and a New Raddison Hotel on Las Americas beach.

[QUOTE=Black Hawk69; 1133093]As many of you know, Cartagena is a very special city to me for many reasons, with the biggest reason being the amount of great friendships I have established through the years. The thing I hate the most about Cartagena, a city with over a million people, is that it is hard to get purposely lost if you stay in the Laguito or Bocagrande area. Everyone knows everybody, and word travels as it was on teletype, telegraph or television.

On this trip, I have been making a strong point to have my stay be as private as possible, as I am basically here visiting a couple of nonputas, and did not want other friends coming knocking on my door, or having security call me. I actually had told Gonzo about this when we were eating breakfast in the morning, telling him that there were two girls especially I did not want to see.

So what happens, I walk my girlfriend out to get a taxi, and I happen to run into Gonzo again. I speak to him for about 5 minutes, and lo and behold, one of the two girls I said I did not want to let know I was here walks up to me and Gonzo, and says my name, and begins the questioning. This particular girl is not a girl that frequents the Laguito area, and infact, lives quite a ways away.

The moral of my story is. Cartagena is a city of a million people, but a person can try to hide, but eventually you will be found. Next thing I know I have the regular working girls who live across the street from the building my apartment is located in calling for me. It is now time to move on to El Rodadero. [/QUOTE]Senior Black Hawk,

Lets see, far better water and beach. Lower prices and you are mostly unknown. Leave CTG to the Newbes who are now flocking there.