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[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.

I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.

I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.

These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?

I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]They're not all scammers. Then again, you won't find many angels there either. A girl who you meet and have a romp with who then asks you for "help" is not a scammer.

My policy re girls asking me for money on DIA: I tell them I do not give money to anyone I haven't met. And then I move on to the next profile.

You'll want to have plan A, B, C, D, . Because the girls live on Filipino time and sometimes flake out.

Get past that, you can have fun doing this. Just don't take it too seriously.

Guys will have different experiences depending on their personalities. It also depends on what they're looking for. For instances, if I was looking for an LTR, I wouldn't try to find her on DIA. I think a good attitude and some flexibility will go far. At the same time, don't be a pushover.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.

I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.

I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.

These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?

I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Some girls ask for money to be sent something or the other. Do not send money for any reason. They are playing on your heartstrings. They have lived without you so far and continue to live without you.

Once you meet and have a relationship you need to think differently. They are not like your girlfriends in the west where normally no money is given except gifts.

Some will not ask but will not refuse your offer of money. They know you are a hit and run artist and except in a few cases no long term stability in relationship. So clear your conscience by giving money equivalent what you would have spent on bargirls. Do not look for free sex. Buying some gifts are in order too.

Once you develop a relationship it is your choice to support her or have a long term relationship. But always she will be there for you if you treat her right.

Just because few girls asked you for money do not call all as scammers. Ofcourse nobody refuses free money. Since you did not send any money before meeting it is no loss to you.

All these girls in a survival mode because of poverty and lack of future opportunities. Otherwise they would not be there.

You need to show respect irrespective what they do unless they rob you.

Damn those guys who keep on telling how good they are.

I'm stupid and crazy, I smoke, I get drunk and puke, I watch porn, I go naked, I dance like a stripteaser, I fuck, I scream when I'm mad, I laugh most of the times, I cried when I'm hurt, I don't hate, I curse when I'm upset, I mess up almost everytime, I'm shy and determined at the same time, I prefer to be called funny than hot, I daydream a lot, I have had nightmares, I'm afraid to watch horror films, I have reasons almost to everything that happens to me, I don't care if people don't understand why I am me, I'll kill if the need arises.

She's in Cebu, so someone give her a ride.

[QUOTE=Sammon;1193161]Some girls ask for money to be sent something or the other. Do not send money for any reason.[/QUOTE]I think you guys misunderstood my question. No way I'll ever send money to someone I haven't met. I already know that.

My question was, why do some DIAers find mostly moneygrubbers while other DIAers find mostly genuine girls when it's the same dating pool?

[QUOTE=FurryFriend;1193126]I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]In my observations only 10% of overall DIA girls are scammers. If you get a high number of them bothering you, it means either you look like a newbie or act like one (no offense!)

A few tips of avoiding the scammers:

- ask to see their webcam. Most scammers are gay guys posing as a woman. Call them on the phone to do a voice check.
- make it clear in your profile you don't send money to people you haven't met.
- if the photo is too good to be true, it usually is (magazine quality, supermodel looks). I did meet one girl who really was an FHM model in her past, but this is a rare exception.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193255]I think you guys misunderstood my question. No way I'll ever send money to someone I haven't met. I already know that.

My question was, why do some DIAers find mostly moneygrubbers while other DIAers find mostly genuine girls when it's the same dating pool?[/QUOTE]Do not show you like her a lot and how beautifull she looks etc. Just act as if you have many girls and she one among many.

Never act desparate saying you really want to meet her or tell her you like to take on vacations etc.

Once you show you really like her they usually come up with hard luck stories

I got a message from rixcel yesterday (from Davao). Here is part of her profile:

[quote]
I am proud in my work like PROSTITUTE person. Why do I work PROSTITUTE bcos I need to help my family in my province.
I am looking a bf to accept me for who I am and what I am.
If I see my future husband. I will promise on him that I will stop my work.
[/quote]

Is that an honest description or is she hoping for a Pretty Woman scenario where someone "saves" her?

[QUOTE=JPF;1193931]Is that an honest description or is she hoping for a Pretty Woman scenario where someone "saves" her?[/QUOTE]Aaah. Isn't it nice to find a honest hooker for a change who admits she's a hooker? So rare!

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.

I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.

I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.

These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?

I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Am quite active on DIA and Tagged and the scam hits are probably about 1 in 10.

[QUOTE=FurryFriend; 1193126]I'd like to ask experienced DIA mongers a question.

I've done the Angeles City bar scene a few times and looking for something new the next time I'm in the Philippines. I started dabbling with online dating sites. Nothing serious, just poking around and kicking the tires.

I've also been reading consumer reviews about DIA. Some guys will claim that almost 100% of women there are scamming (I define scamming as a girl asking money before meeting in-person). Others will say they almost never get asked for money.

These are drastically different experiences on the same website and the same dating pool. What factor would account for such a difference in our DIA experiences?

I exchanged a few messages with one DIA girl, probably the fifth girl on DIA I've conversed with. After the 10th or 12th message, she asked for tuition money. I don't mean to be paranoid, but it leads me to believe the scamming stories more.[/QUOTE]Partly it depends on the fact that different guys have different definitions of scamming but there are other factors. There are plenty of girls who will ask money for cam fees, tuition help etc. I'm not sure this is fairly seen as scamming. In part its a reaction to the fact that 90% of the guys on DIA are timewasters from a girls point of view, guys feeling lonely / horny in the west with either no intention of coming to the Phils or plans in 6 months time with no realistic possibility of meeting the girl.

I would say that 50% + of the serious scammers are ladyboys. Generally they will be operating at peak US times (ie the middle of the night Phils time) , generally they wil have sexy photos and fairly "open minded" profiles.

If you log on to DIA at 3am Phils time and hit "girls" with sexy photos and upfront profiles it WILL seem like 90% of the Girls on DIA are scammers.

My experience with Filipinas is that sometimes, their willingness to try to get money out of you is inversely related to how much she likes you. I had a girl from DIA on the line for a while, and she really liked me and never asked for a cent. I don't deceive women for sex though, so I made it clear to her that I wasn't serious and was only looking for a girlfriend. I could tell she was hurt by it. After that, every conversation was about money in one way or the other.

She just figured that if she wasn't going to land a husband, she might as well go for some quick money. She just lowered her target from Long Term to Short Term. I do the same thing, if I sort of like a girl, but not enough to invest a lot of time with her, I'll just go for broke and tell her I want to fuck her, straight out. If she says yes, great, some quick sex with no investment, if she says no, oh well, I didn't want to waste time on her anyway. I'll take the chance as a last resort.

Today I got this question from a girl just wrapping up her B. Sc.

"have you been here since your last visit?"

Charmingly simplistic in a way, isn't it?

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1194000]Am quite active on DIA and Tagged and the scam hits are probably about 1 in 10.[/QUOTE]I have had my DIA profile for years (had Tagged also, but got kicked off for supposedly being "too explicit"). I just noticed yesterday that I have received over 6000 messages. Of those, I have had money discussions with several girls. But only a few of them were straight requests for "send me money." Most of the discussions have been more along the lines of "I have a big problem. I must pay for xxxxx, and I don't know where I will get the money." When I get those kind of lines, I simply tell the girl that I can't send money because I have my own bills to pay here in the US.

I have only tried to meet with 3 girls from DIA during my first visit to the Philippines. One ended up being a no show, or so I thought. We had arranged to meet at a club near my hotel (just a standard bar with no dancers). When she failed to show for more than an hour after our meet time, I went back to my room and found another girl that agreed to come and meet me. This one turned out to be not what I expected. On our web cam chat, she appeared to be a very nice looking little spinner. When I met her in the bar (with her 2 ladyboy "cousins") she was a short, plump, ugly girl. Turns out she had her cute friend on cam while she was typing responses to me in our chat. Well she was willing to fuck, and I was pissed about the first one not showing and this one not being what I thought she was, so I decided to take her to the room and get my rocks off. Later, I got a message from the first girl asking if I had sex with the one I met. When I asked how she knew about me meeting the other girl, she claimed that she was in a dark part of the bar and watched me as I took short, plump and ugly to my room. I tend to think the whole thing was a setup by the first one to see if I would be "faithful" to her. Needless to say, I never did meet the first girl, and she stopped chatting with me as well. No great loss.

The 3rd girl met me with her baby in her arms. Still, she looked pretty good, and I wanted to have some fun with her. She asked me to stay at a hotel near her home, which I wrongly assumed meant she planned on spending a lot of time in the room with me. She asked if I would like to go to a swim resort with her and her friends (code for "Will you pay for my friends and I to go to the resort with you?") Still hoping to get lucky with the girl, I agreed. We stayed overnight at the resort, and she even shared a bed with me. But she moved away every time I tried to touch her. When I was preparing to leave, she apologized to me for being so shy, and explained that her husband had beat her and she was not comfortable being touched yet. About a week later, after I had left the Philippines, she sent me a message telling me how much she missed me. She promised she would do anything I wanted the next time I visited her. Unfortunately, she married some other monger before I had a chance to see her again. Oh well, many more available where she came from.

It's been a few years since I was in the Philippines. I have continued to chat with DIA girls and plan to meet many of them when I can return there. I have 2 profiles on DIA, the nice profile and the playboy profile. On both, I have my photo and I state that I will not send money. On the playboy profile, I get many more interests from filipinas than my nice profile gets. Some have sent me messages stating their objections to my playboy profile, because I directly state that I am looking for sex partners, and not long term relationships. I always respond to those objections, telling them that I understand them, and we can still be friends. I have even asked some if they would introduce me to some of their friends that would not object. Most have agreed to do that.

Enjoy the hunt!

HW

Have a forthcoming Manila trip and have been working on my calendar, trying to get all my appointments nailed down. The repeats are the easiest as they know I will have some work excuse or urgent post bonk need to leave them while I attend to the next on the list.

However this mornin have been have having pleasant exchanges with Ms 22. She will be a newbie for me. Great pics and is excited that I have bought her a bikini (I buy them all bikinis but she doesn't need to know that LOL). She has agreed to model the bikini, and even to dance in it etc. She knows exactly what's going to happen when she says in her imperfect English "you are old but dangerous in sexy girl like me feel hot". Bring on the hear baby. LOL

No problem having two profiles? I thought this was not allowed at DIA?

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder; 1195380]I have had my DIA profile for years (had Tagged also, but got kicked off for supposedly being "too explicit"). I just noticed yesterday that I have received over 6000 messages. Of those, I have had money discussions with several girls. But only a few of them were straight requests for "send me money." Most of the discussions have been more along the lines of "I have a big problem. I must pay for xxxxx, and I don't know where I will get the money." When I get those kind of lines, I simply tell the girl that I can't send money because I have my own bills to pay here in the US.

HW[/QUOTE]