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Any particular place in Bangkok where one just HAS to go on new Year's eve (like the Copa in Rio or the Champs E. in Paris)?
Or where one really SHOULD go because it's a wild wet dream getting drunk with Miss Sophie, followed by the same procedure as every year?
I'll be on my own, so I guess I could just settle for the LL party.
[QUOTE=Masacuata]Hi NicFrenchy,
I am heading in a couple of weeks to BKK and woulid like to ask you about current rates for LT.
Do you have any idea?
Cheers,
Masacuata[/QUOTE]
Hi Masacuata,
I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.
ne can argue that girls like to be treated with respect and blablabla but when it comes down to it, they prefer the cold business like Japanese and more cash.
Most Other Nana or Cowboy bars will be around 2,500 LT.
If you want to pay less, you need to wait until 2:30 am and the girls will drop their price.
Also, look for a girl that already has been on a ST, she will be more inclined to drop her LT price.
Thermae, Gullivers, BG7 will be anywhere between 2k-3k for LT
[QUOTE=Wendella]Um...for the record: I'm an Obama supporter, lifelong Democrat.[/QUOTE]
You're a good man charlie brown ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Wow, Jay, you got some balls coming in here with a P4P question in the Bangkok Forum! be careful, you might disrupt the discussions about politics.
For independant girls, it all depends on what is your budget and how important to you are the surroundings. For example:
If you like the skanky places with 300thb ST girls then Chinatown is your place.
Not far from that is the Lower sukhumvit street walkers (watch out for the Ladyboys) where you can get 500thb ST.
Beergarden, Gullivers are also on Sukh (7 and 5) and the ladies usually price themselves at 1000thb ST. Same for the Nana Parking lot (evening on soi 4)
Cm2, Nana disco might be a little more expensive 1000-1500 ST
Thermae gets going late and lately girls have been asking 1500 to 2000 ST
Same for girls at Toxic, Q bar adn the likes.
Most expensive are at bars like Spasso, these girls are not very different than the others but prefer to have only 1 guy per night (rather than try adn get 3 or 4) and charge 5000 (or even more).[/QUOTE]
Well, to add some more to that list, someone could go to "the tunnel" (good at weekends, but also expensive), or to Spicy (not Spice Club) which is a good place at the early hours of the day.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Hi Masacuata,
I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.
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Nic,
I thought you hardly ever took girls for long time LOL because we don't don't see your LT posts much and you weren't that keen for girls to know where your room is.
I have been to Shark and found it to be a relatively boring bar even if a few reasonably pretty girls. Not many girls even knew how to dance. I was lucky I took two girls as one turned out to be hopeless and the other one good.
The good dancer was the good fuck.
Perhaps I should try again as havn't been in there for a long time.
BTW. A tip for newbies (not Nic of course). Girls that are boring crap dancers are more likely to be boring lousy girls in bed too.
Really good hot dancers usually know how to fuck good too. But don't take a girl putting on a fake act.
Chat to the girl first to suss out her personality.
There are exceptions. Sometimes shy sad girls can change completely in the bedroom and become very passionate.
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Nic,
I thought you hardly ever took girls for long time LOL because we don't don't see your LT posts much and you weren't that keen for girls to know where your room is. [/QUOTE]
You are correct Mick. I am not a fan of Gogos and rarely indulge but when I do, Shark is my place of hunting.
I usually get quoted 3,000 LT which I think is fair for multiple fucks.
If you think about it, many guys whine about prices being high but at 3k long time, it's still a good bargain. Just tell the girl you want 4 pops. that's 750 per pop for FS ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You are correct Mick. I am not a fan of Gogos and rarely indulge but when I do, Shark is my place of hunting.
I usually get quoted 3,000 LT which I think is fair for multiple fucks.
If you think about it, many guys whine about prices being high but at 3k long time, it's still a good bargain. Just tell the girl you want 4 pops. that's 750 per pop for FS ;)[/QUOTE]
Well I will never get 750 per pop accept maybe with Yok.
My normal LT is only 2 pops.
So its a long time since I ever paid < 1K per pop. But I am hard work (per pop).
BTW Nic, I see now that you have cut nearly all of your Giks, you have time to post again.
Did you simply get bored with the Giks, or were they selfish or of bad character in some other way?
Or the obvious one, they wanted to be more than a Gik?
In November, the FL's in Nana parking lot refused 1000B for 2 hour. They wanted 1000B for 1 hour or 1500B for 2 hours (and they were average looking girls)
Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?
I had the same thing happen , I like tohave them think they are staying 2 hours so its not a rush thing , its not like I have a stopwatch out or anything ,
But saying that made them stick on 1500 more than once ,
Maybe its a Nana FL Union thing and they want extra for overtime!
PS.....I did not pay the 1500, just waited for the next one to walk by....
BK
[QUOTE=Monopoly]Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?[/QUOTE]
No, it isn't normal pricing.
1,000 for ST is 1,000 to the girl until you pop (can be 15 minutes).
Some people (myself included) like to put a time to the deal: minimum 2 hours and I want 2 pops for my 1,000. BG7 girls all agree to this.
[QUOTE=Monopoly]In November, the FL's in Nana parking lot refused 1000B for 2 hour. They wanted 1000B for 1 hour or 1500B for 2 hours (and they were average looking girls)
Is this normal pricing or am I just not a handsome man? Do these FL's really care about the time or were they just making it an issue because I was making it an issue?[/QUOTE]
1000 Baht might be O.K. for ST but the girls will be expecting just one pop and well under 2 hours normally.
Then they can rush back and try for another customer.
When you start making an issue about 2 hours, they start to think that you will be very hard work, maybe not much fun, and want a dectent payout for the hard work.
Very few good standard girls want to work a full 2 hrs for multiple pops for just 1K. They might end up too tired to do another customer. The next customer might offer them 2K or maybe even 3K for LT, if they are a good looker.
The girls refer to Japanese guys as Mister 3s - ST: 3 minutes, 3 inches, 3000 THB ...
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy] I usually pay 3,000 for LT but I do not take out girls from "Low-end" GoGos, I usually take them from Shark, they are very pretty and usually quote 4,000.
They are used to Japanese customers and very rarely go with caucasian because we are known to be cheap.
ne can argue that girls like to be treated with respect and blablabla but when it comes down to it, they prefer the cold business like Japanese and more cash.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Is there anything intrinsically wrong with a girl skilled in sex, charging money for providing this skill. In my opinion no. There is no victim of this supposed "crime".[/QUOTE]
While this seems to be true on the face of it....when you really give it some thought.....it may not be true.
The victim of this non-crime is probably the girl. So here is this sweet girl starting out at this game.....very nice.....she probably supports everone and everyone is happy.
As the years go by and she starts to age.....now she is "no good" (self admitted). Her self-image is destroyed by what she considers to be her low life activity. She starts to drink and smoke and possibly use drugs. When you ask why.....she says that her life is so miserable that she doesn't care if she lives or dies.....she only wants to forget the last asshole she has been licking. Most farang relationships are short term......possibly worse with a Thai...and now she is not young...so her Thai pickings are very, very slim.
She knows there is no good end to all of this. Some save for the future...most don't. So now she is old before her time...not many customers....the future is not bright for her.
The profession does not have a good retirment plan......the girl is the ultimate vicim of all this fun.
Looks like this has converted into an LB hangout. Includes many convincing conversions if that's your thing.
Pity I used to like the live music and FL's at that end of Sukh.
[quote=lover boy #2]while this seems to be true on the face of it....when you really give it some thought.....it may not be true.
the victim of this non-crime is probably the girl. so here is this sweet girl starting out at this game.....very nice.....she probably supports everone and everyone is happy.
as the years go by and she starts to age.....now she is "no good" (self admitted). her self-image is destroyed by what she considers to be her low life activity. she starts to drink and smoke and possibly use drugs. when you ask why.....she says that her life is so miserable that she doesn't care if she lives or dies.....she only wants to forget the last asshole she has been licking. most farang relationships are short term......possibly worse with a thai...and now she is not young...so her thai pickings are very, very slim.
she knows there is no good end to all of this. some save for the future...most don't. so now she is old before her time...not many customers....the future is not bright for her.
the profession does not have a good retirment plan......the girl is the ultimate vicim of all this fun.[/quote]
well i agree its hard for a p4p girl to have a proper bf or husband when she is giving all these unknowns better service.
if she thinks she is a low-life then she is a victim of society's pre-programming that sex is bad.
she should only sell her body if she thinks its o.k. and justified. if she feels bad about it, she should choose a job where she is able to refuse customers that she doesn't like.
maybe i feel bad too that i am single at my age and have spent so much money on mongering and being addicted to sex.
but i can quit at any time and look to the future.
then i look at all my peers with boring wives who rarely come across and i don't really envy them.
some girls seel sex as a means to get rich quickly. they should be able to retire at a young age and leave all that behind them.
other girls have to do p4p merely to make ends meet. they maybe sacrificing their own life prospects in order to give their sons/daughters a better chance in the world.
these girls still have a chance to meet a nice nice farang that will take them away from it all to a more comfortable life some day.
p4p is not a reasion to become a drunk, drug addict, etc. in my view.
i can accept an ex p4p girl as a gf or wife provided she can show her good character still remains and has not been corrupted by the p4p work.
this is possible even if not probable.
too many ex p4ps are still trying to manipulate guys to get money. but not every p4p girl has bad character.