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[QUOTE=Friendly Gaijin]Actually, that is easier to find than FS, since the way the industry understands the law here, it is illegal to advertise in public for FS, but not for "AF". Doesn't make much of any sense. You find this "AF" advertised, mostly at a price of 5.000, as an option in all kinds of places we won't be easily allowed into. The Japanese shops actually use that instead of some Japanese equivalent. Maybe it sounds less drastic to them that way.It might be extra difficult to get service for that particular option, since having a Great Western Tool obviously makes the job harder for the provider. Maybe your best bet would be to become a regular costumer in some shop that has this on the menue (not an easy task by itself) and then start trying out all the options after they know and trust you.Hope this helps. Have fun.[/QUOTE]This is a site for dozens of AF shops countrywide (below is the Tokyo page):[url]http://anal.daiziten.com/kanto/shopList/[/url]Seems larger/older girls are more likely to offer AF as an option. Perhaps it is less uncomfortable for them? Since they are not young starlets they can't work for the top DH/soaps, so this is a way to increase their earnings (my guess at least). If you find a hottie offering AF, it is because she likes it (or REALLY wants more cash). Sometimes you will see a triangle next to the option-means she might consider it. A circle means she is OK with it.You may find you are accepted for this more often then regular shops, since these are not first-rate 20yr olds and they tend to be less picky/afraid of trying new things.The fear of the Western tool might be an issue, but negotiable once in the room and examined (unless you are a John Holmes type).Can cost between 5,000-15,000 extra. Some AF specialty places have it included.Here is a place that is 50min/14,000 or 50/21,000 for AF course (I haven't been there).[url]http://www.la-mamma.jp/html/index.html[/url]Google AF toukyou (in kanji) and you'll get some hits.Good luck and report back.

[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]I am not joking when I say that this woman was extremely tall for a Japanese lady (172 cm) and extremely old. I mean she was pushing 45 would be my guess.[/QUOTE]"Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.

Sorry that you feel that way. I was trying to be polite by saying 45 but may be more like 50. I know that still doesn't make you feel better but each of us have their own taste. I don't know many guys in the late thirties and early forties that would like to have sex with an unattractive lady that is 45+ years old. If she was hot and didn't smell, then I could pop 2-3 times to. Didn't mean to offend you but if you read my entire post it wasn't only the age that was a turnoff.[QUOTE=Inakajin]"Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Stickmanfob]Sorry that you feel that way. I was trying to be polite by saying 45 but may be more like 50. I know that still doesn't make you feel better but each of us have their own taste. I don't know many guys in the late thirties and early forties that would like to have sex with an unattractive lady that is 45+ years old. [/QUOTE]Hey! *Unattractive* is the operative word here. Not the age. Personally, I would rather do it with an attractive 45-yo than with a 20-yo pig. You are welcome to your taste. But don`t assume that everyone shares your preference.

Chill out, guys.

I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.[QUOTE=Nino]Hey! *Unattractive* is the operative word here. Not the age. Personally, I would rather do it with an attractive 45-yo than with a 20-yo pig. You are welcome to your taste. But don`t assume that everyone shares your preference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homer69]I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.[/QUOTE]Can't agree more....But to each his own, I happily leave the snoopy models to the younger guys....and enjoy the experience of other more "ordinary" women.. NYNY and Champs are examples in case..where excellent service can be had from no-so-young women.Having said that, I must recognise that there are also young girls who deliver excellent service, such as Manimi from AM.

[QUOTE=Homer69]I've had some terrible times with very attractive young ones and some incredibly surprisingly great times with older unattractive ones. I can deal with unattractiveness far better than I can with snooty, stuck up attitudes. Age doesn't really play into this for me. Attitude and personality can make up for a whole lot of unattractiveness. It doesn't take much of a bad attitude to spoil a perfect 10.[/QUOTE]As eye candy, the younger ones are usually preferable for me, with their perky tits and tight asses. However once it bed, it is YMMV for any age, as performance becomes the key. I have come to appreciate the skills of women closer to my age (say w/in 5-10 years), and find myself bored by girls in their late teens/early twenties, who have never been anywhere on done anything interesting and have an IQ of 90. Then again at uni I usually dated women 5-10yrs older as well...Of course anyone who orders a 20-something and gets a 40-50 something deserves a break. The bate-and-switch is something we should object to in order to get the DH companies honest. Problem is we are too horny and they know it.

Gamma - I enjoyed reading your posts and looking at your maps... I think they are quite helpful and the discussion of the experience at these strip theaters is a nice change of pace - certainly not to everyone's taste, but that is something that can be said for many different aspects of this hobby, but it is interesting to see the range of possibilities. I visited the strip club in Asakusa you describe many years ago before I even knew about ISG (or WSG then)... happened upon it and checked it out. It was interestingly different from strip joints in the US. For those interested in the stripo theatres, the maps will be invaluable for finding them. Indeed, I also noticed your map to NYNY/Champs Elysee in Ueno - those of us who have been around here for a while may recall that giving instructions to get to that place to newbies is a frequent request and something of a challenge, since a lot of guys want to check it out and don't really know their way around these back streets of Ueno. I and others have written directions before... but the map will be much appreciated![QUOTE=Gamma Ray 007]I'm just about ready to leave Tokyo and have completed my Google maps project on strip theaters in the Tokyo area. Since nobody can possibly remember the link ([url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441bece037115a5454&ie=UTF8&ll=35.710838,139.767036&spn=0.119313,0.228653&z=12&om=0[/url]), just go to Google maps ([url]http://maps.google.com[/url]) and search for keywords like "tokyo strip theater" and the results should bring up my work, the "Tokyo Strip Theater Guide." I've personally confirmed the locations of all except for OS Shibuya, and have linked pictures to all the clubs on the list. If I could find the theater's official website I've posted that link in the placemark box as well as other details I could gather. I visted the Asakasua Rockza yesterday for the first show at 1:00 (Sunday) and was not as impressed as some I was with some of the other theaters. It is a much less intimate theater with a huge stage and a runway so long it is equipped with a little round subway car to carry the dancer off at the end of her set.In some ways, the Rockza reminded me of the late (and greatly lamented) Raymond Revue Bar in London, as every set began with a multi-girl showpiece, except that the Rockza version was "G" rated. One of the girls would eventually stroll forward on the runway and the final three songs would lead to the typical soulfully erotic poses that seem to characterize strip theater in Japan. Then the dancer would graceful step onto her chariot, and she would be transported slowly back to where the curtains would close on her nude but gaily waving form.I counted a total of twelve dancers in the finale, all of whom wore outfits consisting of wide satin ribbons that clearly indicated the panty-less state of all but two. What's up with the two who wore the black panties? I don't remember them from any of the performances. Is the Rockza theater a place where apprentice dancers earn their wings, or similar? The whole performance was pretty squeaky clean--not an inserted finger or even the hint of a dildo at any time. The audience also seemed to be much more reserved than the enthusiasts at some other theaters. For the record, my favorite remains the Mikado-Gekijyo in Ikebukero, followed by the Ueno theater. The streamers at Rockza were excellent, by the way.I took the chance while snapping pictures of NYNY and Champs to try the latter, and I'm convinced those two establishments must share the same management. Even the newbie card reading "No sexual intercourse!" is identical. I drew an older lady named Anna and had a great time with her, and appreciated the bigger tub mentioned by another contributor to this forum. For a non-FS monger like myself, it is hard to beat the price/performance for either NYNY or Champs, and both are completely free of drama regarding my gaijin status. And what a great way to warm up on a snowy day! For the sake of newbies, I posted the locations of those places (and a few others of interest) on a Google map as well ([url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109611849150422532546.000441c0fe6a62cd7a1b2&ll=35.70905,139.772159&spn=0.000932,0.001786&z=19&om=0[/url])[/QUOTE]

Yes, I second that. Great job with that map, thanks for this project. I just did a snip on the long URL, the short one is[url]http://snurl.com/1z3bf[/url]Have fun.[QUOTE=Stew2]For those interested in the stripo theatres, the maps will be invaluable for finding them. Indeed, I also noticed your map to NYNY/Champs Elysee in Ueno - those of us who have been around here for a while may recall that giving instructions to get to that place to newbies is a frequent request and something of a challenge, since a lot of guys want to check it out and don't really know their way around these back streets of Ueno. I and others have written directions before... but the map will be much appreciated![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cool Mint]So I've been here a few days and the racism concerning P2P is such a buzzkill. I've certainly encountered it in Korea despite my Asian face, but at least they were blunt about it so that I could properly respond. Here in Japan, they go out of their way to be polite all the time, even when basically spouting racism. It's tricky to deal with. After 3 rejections due to my extremely rusty Japanese, I began to get impatient and didn't bother looking after that.I heading to Tokyo next month.I am Asian and brown skinned...what type of discrimination am I to expect.Any recommended locations?Thanks

[QUOTE=Pac Guy][QUOTE=Cool Mint]I am Asian and brown skinned...what type of discrimination am I to expect.[/QUOTE]Not any more or any less than us white skins.[QUOTE=Pac Guy][QUOTE=Cool Mint]Any recommended locations?Thanks[/QUOTE]How about reading some threads on this board first, and then come back with a more specific question?

[QUOTE=Fw190]Hi Jackazzzz.....Yes, the Tokubetsuya website photos look great (if they're real). Anyway, I'm going to be in Tokyo for a few days at the end of the month and wanted to try that kind of place for the first time (I've usually been an AM customer). Sounded like your extensive research took you to Tokubetsuya, and so I wondered if you could pass along any pointers, for example: is it gaijin-friendly, is Japanese language ability necessary, any hints on finding the place (I just love the way Japanese businesses are hidden right in plain sight), is it necessary to call in advance to reserve, etc. Thanks very much for any info you can provide.[/QUOTE]Hi, I have to admit, I haven't been to Tokubetsuya. Actually I think the name is Tokubetsushitsu, but let's not dwell on that. My mistake.But I was deeply impressed by their attention to service. This is going to sound like I work for them but. I walked around for two hours trying to go into shops, and I believe I tried 50 places. They were the ONLY place to treat me like a serious customer (I. E. The full-on Japanese "Oh my god, it's a customer! Treatment"). For that reason (and the pictures) I would go there.I did a walk-in so I guess you can too. They were eager to serve, but I speak enough Japanese. Based on my experience since then (two Yoshiwara visits since the long post), I think it's a better idea to call ahead. If your Japanese doesn't support a call. I'm not sure if it will support a walk-in. I can call for you if you like, or meet you there. Honestly, I've had very good luck at Prima Dona ([url]www.dream7000.com[/url]), and a bad experience at Romanee Conti that was my own fault (never, NEVER take the manager's recommendation. I thought I knew that but I still fell for it.) You know, Playgirls has gotten good recs, and evidently they have an English speaking guy. They're one of the few places that will try to get you to come in off the street (Wednesday night it was snowing, and all the shops were remarkably welcoming! )As far as finding it. Yoshiwara is hard to miss if you know the basics. Minowa Exit 3 (front of the train), turn left, cross the street, soft right at the fork, turn right at the gas station, two curves in the road. There about 10 blocks after that where more or less every shop is a soapland. Tokubetsushitsu is on the first street on the right. Can you find a map? Senzoku 4-chome will do it. Just ask a taxi driver from Minowa station, it will be less than Y1000.Lemme know. I have a bad feeling I'll be up there again this weekend, and I'm more than happy to abet someone else's mongering.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Inakajin]"Extremely old...pushing 45???" How old are you--18?First of all most of the hottest f**ks I've had have been middle-aged women; no hang-ups, they know what they like, willing to experiment, etc. Second, I'm in my late 50s but can still pop 2-3 times w/i as many hours when w/a woman I like who turns me on.No need to insult the older members of this board.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there was no insult intended to older members. I sort of assume that everyone wants that taste of youth that comes with a 20 year old girl.So here's my last experience. I've posted a number of Yoshiwara things recently, and this is the most recent.Wednesday night I went up to Yoshiwara with a guy that works for me. The shops were very welcoming due to the snow. Places that I KNOW rejected me last week when I inquired were eager to have my business this time.We ended up at Romanee Conti. Miazato san is pretty decent and friendly, except that he recommended two girls and I let myself be seduced by my (first time) colleague's nervousness. Thus he ended up with an OK provider and I ended up with.A fat girl. Or perhaps a fat woman. I would guess she was 25-27. This doesn't sound so bad, but the other times I've gone to Yoshiwara I've called and made appointments with tall, stick-thin 22-year olds. I know what I like.So the first 30 minutes with this woman was terrible. She met me on the stairs, as they do, and I immediately detected that she was. How can I put this delicately. Fat. In the room, she seemed to be treating it more like an English lesson. I don't want to give you an English lesson, I want YOU to give ME some other kind of oral lesson. The first round of sex was lackluster. Did I mention she was fat? I didn't let her get in the bath with me. There wasn't room. The massage on the mat was pretty good except that she was crushing me.Then she went to town on the analingus, or however you spell it, I was pretty surprised. She turned me over and went after it, hand-to-mouth, and it was decent. I got sheathed, got her on top, then on the bottom, but couldn't make it happen. After 10 minutes (maybe. But it felt like an hour) I just quit. She volunteered to get back to it with her mouth, and after an extended and enjoyable period she pulled it off.The moral of the story is that it was tremendously satisfying, but had basically nil GFE and I had to keep my eyes closed the whole time. There are positives and negatives.Will someone other than me PLEASE go to Yoshiwara and post a report? All these debates about AM and Mashiro at Supergirls are really depressing.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Gifuboy]Hi,I am reporting about Korean Delivery Health(KDH) in Uguisudani. Since I am not interested in anything that doesn't include FS, this is a good option for me in terms of quality/price. It seems that most of the KDH in Tokyo are based around Uguisudani. Me: Westerner, 30s, japanese-speaking.Usually I get a room at one of the love hotels around Uguisudani, on weekends in the afternoon you can get a room for <5000 yen for 3 hours. No problem to get in alone. ........ Anyway here's a list of agencies I've usedK-girls ([url]http://k-girls.jp/top.html[/url])Service is good, girls on the site are real. Recommend.Palace ([url]http://www.palace-dh.com/[/url])Same owner as K-girls, recommendedEntarra ([url]http://www.entaraa.com/[/url])Used it once, was the girl on the site. Attitude was so-soMink ([url]http://www.derimink.com/main.html[/url])Used it once, was the girl on the site, service was OK.Nobless ([url]http://nnobless.com/index.html[/url])Called a couple of times, they always send a different girl(no the one on the web site), not recommendedFellini ([url]http://www.fellini0306.com/index2.html[/url])Japanese agency, pochari type. FS included. Used it once, Mahiru-san,she was nice. Recommended if you like chubby girlsMost of the mama-san are Korean, when I call they can't tell I'm not Japanese, I always give a Japanese name. I don't think they speak English so you might wanna have someone call for you if you don't speak Japanese. Also, some of the girls(Korean) don't speak that much Japanese or English.Anyway, I think KDH are a pretty good deal but your milleage may vary.Have fun![/QUOTE]Hi,Do they only "deliver" to those hotels mentioned on their website, or can I also get them e.g. to Akasaka?