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[QUOTE=Nounce;2540122]Not arguing with this, just want to point out these articles are about homicides and murders.[/QUOTE]It's starting out with one think I did not agree to but now it's a whole bunch of rambling going on, I speak no Spanish at all and have had many beers in el Centro with zero jam ups!
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2539914]Should you choose to become a Centro rat, this is the fate that awaits you. The photo shows real live providers at Ground Zero, unobscured faces and all. I did not bother to obscure their faces because they work the Botero / Veracruz stroll on a daily basis. No shame in their game.
So drinking game alert, take a shot for each time you reckon Pollo Negro or Surfer have been with any of them. But seriously, consider how dolled up these girls could be with the benefit of an hour or two with Slapshot's credit card. Full disclosure, confession of a Centro rat, I may have smashed in more than one case.[/QUOTE]Excellent! That's the kind of post and info I can use!
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2540113]You realize that LA 70 is a hell of a long way from El Centro, and there's no mongering there whatsoever? I stay in Laureles right off 70. It's just like any other stadium neighborhood (the Colombian national football stadium is on the other side of the Metro). I wish I had a dollar for everyone who gets mugged and knifed trying to find their car after a game at Wrigley Stadium, Yankee Stadium, or the Superdome. Don't compare apples to oranges. Laureles is a posh neighborhood in Medellin and the guy was three miles away from El Centro in a neighborhood much more similar to El Poblado.[/QUOTE]I have lived in Chicago 53 yrs and have never ever heard of even 1 person getting robbed (let alone knifed) leaving Wrigley Field, I used to live 1/2 mile away.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2540121]For the record, Colombia hardly ranks, with only Palmyra and Cali making the list. You're more likely to be killed in Cancun than Medellin.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/[/URL]
You'll find the rankings change a little, but the cities are the same. Big cities are inherently dangerous, but you're in far more danger picking up a SW in Baltimore than in Medellin. Probably getting less for more, as well.
[URL]https://7news.com.au/travel/here-are-the-top-10-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-c-624230[/URL][/QUOTE]Mexico and espec Tijuana usually have the highest murder rates in the world, period.
I've been studying Columbia and it appears that it is much more dangerous, why?
They seem to target gringos, I've been to Mexico and Tijuana 100 x some of the worst areas on the planet.
Zero issues, stats don't lie but, liars use stats.
Most of Mexico homicides are cartel violence.
The murder rate in Chicago is very very high, I feel it is one of the safest cities in the world.
Why?
I don't live where the killing is, they are not targeting me or tourists.
You have to learn the word nuance.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lIunFoBzHM[/URL]
Don't go out like this hombre.
It is not whether you can speak spanish or not. I am fluent in spanish and have visited el Centro only a few times. It takes a certain type to enjoy mongering there and I am not one of them. Not saying mongers should avoid it because I know some really enjoy it. But beware it is not for everyone and certainly not a place I would be when it starts getting dark out. There are many mongers who stay in laureles and other areas and spend less than $30 dollars a day for an apartment with AC in a safe area with security. You don't have to stay in Poblado!! Too many times fans of el Centro make it sound like you are either an el Centro guy or a poblado fan. This is far from the truth and very misleading. Medellin is a large city that offers many different places to be.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2540117]You know, I'd take all this a step further. El Centro is no place for a newbie, period. If you don't have any Spanish and stick out like a fly in a bowl of buttermilk, stick to the Mansion and El Poblado. Mongering in El Centro IS dangerous. You could get knifed or mugged just as easily going upstairs at noon as you could at midnight. The real problem here isn't whether or not you should be in El Centro after dark, it's whether or not you've got the skills to monger there at all. Definitely visit Botero Plaza, the museum, and all that stuff, but newbies should stick to Gringoland for pussy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Knowledge;2539914]Should you choose to become a Centro rat, this is the fate that awaits you. The photo shows real live providers at Ground Zero, unobscured faces and all. I did not bother to obscure their faces because they work the Botero / Veracruz stroll on a daily basis. No shame in their game.
So drinking game alert, take a shot for each time you reckon Pollo Negro or Surfer have been with any of them. But seriously, consider how dolled up these girls could be with the benefit of an hour or two with Slapshot's credit card. Full disclosure, confession of a Centro rat, I may have smashed in more than one case.[/QUOTE]3 of the 5 chicas and this photo, with that being said, one of the girls in this photo is very special and the personal girlfriend of one of the biggest boss's in the area of Botero park. So be careful, others are just local girls trying to survive! Pollo Negro is out!
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2540121]For the record, Colombia hardly ranks, with only Palmyra and Cali making the list. You're more likely to be killed in Cancun than Medellin.
[URL]https://www.statista.com/statistics/243797/ranking-of-the-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/[/URL]
You'll find the rankings change a little, but the cities are the same. Big cities are inherently dangerous, but you're in far more danger picking up a SW in Baltimore than in Medellin. Probably getting less for more, as well.
[URL]https://7news.com.au/travel/here-are-the-top-10-most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-c-624230[/URL][/QUOTE]I am 5'9" about 280 lbs and I can handle myself extremely well. Grew up all over the south, from Ft Lauderdale back to Atlanta, by way of Puerto Rico, still Nounce and I watched a girl nearly stabbed to death in Parque Botero in broad day. I have never been robbed in Botero and I once hung out in that park everyday for a minimum of 8 hours. You would never catch me anywhere near Parque Botero after 10 pm, and I try not to be in that park later than 8 pm or 9 pm. Its just something about being stabbed that is just way too different than being shot like they do in America. Being stabbed is very personal and I have seen many people stabbed in Parque Botero, but hey I guess you can handle it, but even I would not chance hanging in Parque Botero after 8 pm post quarantine. Pollo Negro is Out!
[QUOTE=SavePros321;2540115]Where do you get your color copy of your passport with entry date done?[/QUOTE]Just like in the US go anywhere they have Photocopy machines rhere's all kinds of places everywhere.
[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2540180]I am 5'9" about 280 lbs and I can handle myself extremely well. Grew up all over the south, from Ft Lauderdale back to Atlanta, by way of Puerto Rico, still Nounce and I watched a girl nearly stabbed to death in Parque Botero in broad day. I have never been robbed in Botero and I once hung out in that park everyday for a minimum of 8 hours. You would never catch me anywhere near Parque Botero after 10 pm, and I try not to be in that park later than 8 pm or 9 pm. Its just something about being stabbed that is just way too different than being shot like they do in America. Being stabbed is very personal and I have seen many people stabbed in Parque Botero, but hey I guess you can handle it, but even I would not chance hanging in Parque Botero after 8 pm post quarantine. Pollo Negro is Out![/QUOTE]Gringos and Foreigners shouldn't go to the areas where they do not belong. If you are person at the wrong place and at the wrong time, then you are inviting yourself trouble. It does not matter how strong or big you are. The people are professional criminals at parque botero and its their day and night chore to rob and stab. Usually, the gang come from four directions and two people hold you from behind and few surround you, emptying out your pockets or even stab you if you resist. Please my fellow mongers, there is plenty of fish available in the ocean, but do not go fishing in sharks area.
[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;2540068]Medellin or La Jonquera? I'm trying to decide on my next trip, and the current choices are Medellin and La Jonquera. Has anyone visited both? Pros / cons of each, including the economics- price of girls as well as lodgings and food? Spain has an edge right now due to some of the cultural aspects, but Medellin is tried and true and never disappoints. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I assume you are asking about the future? Spain is not open for business last I checked. But for the sake of discussion even in normal times just the remoteness of La Jonquera would set me off, by the time you fly into say Barcelona then get a Ryanair type hot over to Girona you still got a get an hour in a bus or taxi, So then price wise those chicas pimps set the prices (yes they have pimps especially all those ones brought in from Romania, so they want like 50 euro for half hour. Ask these Centro guys what they can do with 50 Euro LOL My self I would spend a few hours with FB princess for that money and will have taken care of her taxi and all. Economics will always fall on the side of Medellin, at least between those two. A lot of board members might say that Brazil is even better.
[QUOTE=Surfer500;2539876]It's not totally clear yet on this, it was a court ruling that was made, not s decree by the Colombian Government. And I think the Government would be foolish to drop the testing requirement at this time given what's occurring in Italy and Brazil because of the new variants. The last thing anybody want's is the return to the weekend shutdowns. It's one thing to have late night curfews, but lockdowns during the day or starting early evening is not good.[/QUOTE]Surfer, remember it was the executive branch that dropped the requirement. Then a judge said it had to be implemented. Now a higher court has ruled the lower court decision was not valid. It seems to me that the decision to have to have testing done is immediately voided.
Practically speaking though, I am headed to Colombia soon and will see. I did pay for a PCR test and got one today just to be sure, but I have a feeling it was not necessary.
Glad that sanity is back on the thread. El Centro is very dangerous during daytime, as well as night time. I am not sure if the area is safer during day. The robbers are paying a cut to the police and local gang, so they are protected. They are well-organized, operate based on division of labor (ie. Marking, diversion, assault, etc) and just implement variety of "standard operating procedures" depending upon the situation, location and target.
In December last year, 4 gringos I knew were attacked with knives during day. Two of them always acted like a "big shot," or tough guy. Also there were a group of newbie gringos at the Veracruz area. In spite of advices from some people, they hang around on the middle of street, drunk beer (locals don't do this), talked / laughed loud to the street people and hookers, some of who looked very young. Everybody was watching them. Again, they acted like a big shot, and eventually two of them had a physical fight with a local punk. Next day, a real organization guy showed up and extorted compensation money (about 300 k peso per person) from the gringos. The gringos paid and left the area in a few days.
There is no any good deal at El Centro- I saw it in 20 years. There are only schemes, tricks, and violence. There is no reason why gringos should come to the area. Girls and other funs are available at other areas for similar prices.
[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2540193]Gringos and Foreigners shouldn't go to the areas where they do not belong. If you are person at the wrong place and at the wrong time, then you are inviting yourself trouble. It does not matter how strong or big you are. The people are professional criminals at parque botero and its their day and night chore to rob and stab. Usually, the gang come from four directions and two people hold you from behind and few surround you, emptying out your pockets or even stab you if you resist. Please my fellow mongers, there is plenty of fish available in the ocean, but do not go fishing in sharks area.[/QUOTE]Very well stated. I believe it was Sammy that claimed Botero at night is no worse than Baltimore. Well in the former they aren't handing out $2000 government checks or enhanced foodstamps payments. Plus there's a huge refugee population with literally nothing to lose. And as a Norte American foreigner in these areas there's a target on your back in a way in which there's no comparison in the states. Such analogies fall flat.
[QUOTE=IamLookin;2540168]It is not whether you can speak spanish or not. I am fluent in spanish and have visited el Centro only a few times. It takes a certain type to enjoy mongering there and I am not one of them. Not saying mongers should avoid it because I know some really enjoy it. But beware it is not for everyone and certainly not a place I would be when it starts getting dark out. There are many mongers who stay in laureles and other areas and spend less than $30 dollars a day for an apartment with AC in a safe area with security. You don't have to stay in Poblado!! Too many times fans of el Centro make it sound like you are either an el Centro guy or a poblado fan. This is far from the truth and very misleading. Medellin is a large city that offers many different places to be.[/QUOTE]That's it exactly. It takes a certain type of person to enjoy El Centro. There should be a self-evaluation questionnaire to help people decide what area of Medellin and type of mongering best suits them.
[QUOTE=Nclpimp;2539579]There's is a girl Mary (21 yo) that is doing comuna13 graffiti tours. She is charging 50 k or if you want to do the metro cable cars tour that is also available, not sure on the price. Its a legit tour. Other companies sell the same tour for 90 k. The best thing is she also sells pussy / ass after the tour. Her whatsapp is +5732XXXX410. I think she's worth it. At least to get out of Poblado a bit and see sexy ass.[/QUOTE]She told me the comuna tour was 50 k for half an hour (30 minutes), which is a really fast tour for that area (and expensive). I paid 50 k for a guide for 3 hours. I don't know what her other rates are. She also suggested a ride to parque avri for 120, although I'm not sure about going alone with her for the first time to that area.
Have you met her more than once, or has anyone else met her yet?
Any motel recommendations in Laureles? My hotel isn't very guest friendly so unless she would be a regular I wouldn't have her come to my place.