Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Sehns]I'm not denying that locals pay less. And theres nothing wrong at all with negotiation, its a good thing. I do believe the original argument was dont try and pay less than what the locals pay or it makes you seem like a giant scumbag.

Negotiate below gringo rate/rip off rate, absolutely, but lowballing them less than what locals paying = scummy

If your satisfied afterwards? tip them. Great![/QUOTE]Lowballing is a part of negotiation as with anything. You start off really low and meet somewhere in the middle. The girl doesn't have to accept. In fact if it's too low they might get insulted and not even negotiate and will just reject you.

Hi all, just recently booked a flight to Medellin for the July 4th weekend (opportunity arose and I took it!). Unfortunately it looks like Casa Blanca 1 and 2 is booked for that weekend. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on similar places to stay? Since this is my 1st trip out there and my spanish is minimal I was looking for something easy. I just read through the last 30 or so pages of the forum and see My Place mentioned but was looking for something a little more upscale (no offense). Any advice is welcome!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Da Kid Infa]Hey,

I'm thinking about a trip to Columbia.

What are the basic rates for girls down there?

Also, where can I find them?[/QUOTE]<munching popcorn>

This should get good.

I think it's funny that both you and Frank didn't want to offend anyone but you both did a pretty good job offending each other. Just to point out the obvious that no one would have known who Frank was talking about until you said something. As an aside why is that every time someone gets mad at Frank they complain about Frank and his roaches, you can almost set your watch as to when the roach comment will be dropped. So for the record Frank do you have roaches? And if you do, is the correct answer to the question, what do you expect for US$25 a night.

[QUOTE=Jack4765] Sorry,if I offended anybody,but it had to be said.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Itsoweezee]Hi all, just recently booked a flight to Medellin for the July 4th weekend (opportunity arose and I took it!). Unfortunately it looks like Casa Blanca 1 and 2 is booked for that weekend. I was wondering if anyone had any advice on similar places to stay? Since this is my 1st trip out there and my spanish is minimal I was looking for something easy. I just read through the last 30 or so pages of the forum and see My Place mentioned but was looking for something a little more upscale (no offense). Any advice is welcome!

Thanks[/QUOTE]My favorite room was booked(11), so I am trying a penthouse apartment in Laureles Johnny can produce chicas, has a great pad (private rooms with bath), morning breakfast, and he will help with anything you would need. Laureles is a great area, and I am looking forward to trying this as its about half the cost of room 11! pm me if interested, I'll get you his email!

Ziggy

I cannot believe it, but I lost my cell last trip with all the chica numbers on it. Normally, I have always stayed at the mansion, but my room was booked this time, so am staying elsewhere. Fortunately, I have found most of the numbers of the chicas I want to see again, but need some help with the sisters Jennifer, and Vanessa. If someone will pm me the info, I will return the favor with new intel on some hot new chicas I have met on facebook. Once I return I will post fotos of these new chicas, and if you have helped me out, then I will have no problem helping you!

I have always been concerned about losing my camera, but I guess losing the cell is the 2nd worst thing to lose!

Thanks in advance,

Ziggy

Hey Jack,

You outed yourself in your report. I was talking in general and avoided any specifics. The reason I didn´t tell your little ass something was because it took me a few days to process what you were doing. I had never known anybody that bragged about being cheap with the girls and was proud of being called Costco Jack. It took me a while to process and to response to it.

The next guy that I thought was doing that after you left, was 6´4" inches and weighed 300 pounds and I set him down on the sofa and expressed my feelings. But he wasn´t trying to do what you were doing, he just wanted a massage for his hip, and he was used to getting theraputic massages for $30cop. After I explained to him that he would be hard pressed to find a girl in La Mayorista that would massage his leg for an hour for $30k he understood. I found him a girl that massaged him for 2 hours and he gave her $100kcop, they were both very happy.

So believe me, I would not have been afraid of seating your little ass on the same couch and telling you what was on my mind. But you caught me off guard and it took me a few days to react to your ignorance. If you think a guy that has been in La Mayorista for 3 years, where many a men fear to trot, and has experienced everything there is to experience here, is afraid of sitting your little ass down ant telling you what he thinks, well, you are a confused and arrogant old man. I tried to be generic, you made it personal, so it´s on you.

When I have guys stay at the hotel I precure the largest rooms for them in the whole of The Mayorista hotels, there are only 4 of those. They also have total access to all of My Place benefits. I pay for them in advance and make all of the arrangements, I´m a nice guy, but I´m not stupid, so I´m not going to do all that for $11US. But, of course to a cheap skate like you, $25US might seem excessive for all that I do. As for the little cock roaches, this is Itagui, not El Poblado, and even though I fumigate regularly you´re going to have some crossover from the other buildings and apartments. Next time try staying in El Poblado for what you want to pay.

And as for the maid, I pay her $50,000cop for the cleanning, the going rate is $35,000cop for an 8 hour day, and $50,000cop for the phuck. Both she and her mother are very happy that she doesn´t have to go out and work the streets anymore to bring food for her children. She makes about $500,000cop a month from me with the extras for 4 days work. When you consider that $500,000cop is the minimum wage here for a laborer´s work for a full month, 10 hour days, 6 days a week, 24 days a month. I think we can all agree that she´s not doing too bad for 4 days work.

I´m a fair guy, I try to give people a second chance. If you appologize to me publicly I will let you stay at My Place again, if you don´t, good luck, you are on your own.

Frank Casio !

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hi guys,

I'm troubled at a certain kind of monger that is trying to outbid "paisas" in cheapness. I've always had a disliking of paisas for trying to offer crums to the girls and asking them to do all sorts of stuff, like ass fucking, etc. But when "gringos" or any foreigner comes to Medellin and tries to "outbid" the paisas on the cheap side, that really, really irritates me. I consider that "exploitation" of the worst kind, at least paisas are doing it to their own women.

I've always defended "gringo" mongers because they offered the girls something better, some even "naive" enough to want to marry them. I consider that "noble", stupid, but noble, nevertheless. But these new breed of "cheap" mongers that are comming here to outbid the "paisas" on the cheap side, make my teeth grind. I don't consider them "mongers", I consider them exploiters. These girls are not american girls, don't take your frustration against american women out on them. They work for very cheap prices already, you don't need to offer them even less, that embarrasses me. I get the girls a lot of work here in La Mayorista and I still pay full price, because I'd be embarrassed to pay any less.

Guys, they are only $25US an hour, sometimes they will tell you less, like $20US an hour, or $13-$15US for half an hour, heyyyy, comprende? And please don't get rough or demanding with the girls and force them to do things they don't want or didn't agreed to. It's better to loose $20US than to put yourself or me in danger. I will ask, in the future, that if you want to pay $5US for a "cutie", that you stay in "Nutibarra" in El Centro. There you will find $5US hookers that will gladly accept your money, but please stay away from My Place. Sorry, if I offended anybody, but it had to be said.

Frank Casio![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vics Picks]I was trying to save money on taxi's and food and fancy night clubs. I as usual I spent most of my money on the girls, and I did go over budget.

What you want to pay is your business and if Frank doesn't like the way you operate than that is his choice if he perfers that you stay elsewhere.

I think the best way to deal with these girls is to set a price and then let them know that if the service is very good then a tip will be their reward.

It works for me on all but the most stupid Chicas.

Back to your post, when I do a trip report I try to convey info that others may use. Like taking the bus from the airport for 3, 500 Peso. I never said I would nickel dime a women I planned on being intimate with.[/QUOTE]6,500 peso for the bus not 3,500

[QUOTE=Shark Bait]I dont ever let my guard down now,especially even with people dressed well. I have been to Medellin about 15 times in the last two and a half years. I will keep returning because I do love the paisas as most of us do.[/QUOTE]Yep, the only times I have gotten in trouble is when I've let my guard down.
I got mugged once in Caracas because I was a dummy and feeling safe hahaha.
Now I'm always with a bit of paranoia, checking six quite a bit, it comes natural after a while.

[QUOTE=Hioctane]Lowballing is a part of negotiation as with anything. You start off really low and meet somewhere in the middle. The girl doesn't have to accept. In fact if it's too low they might get insulted and not even negotiate and will just reject you.[/QUOTE]Por favor amigo!

Franky was referring to Mayorista chicas where the normal charge is 20-25K pesos.

What ya going to do? Start negotiations at 5K? That's your low ball offer, hoping she'll counter with 15k pesos?

Please let me know which chicas on the Mayorista you're low-balling like that.

When I get there soon, I'll buy 'them a chuzo, givem a propinita and apologize for ya.

We're not talking higher end Face Dos chicas, las Mansionettas, etc, we're talking Mayorista chicas.

How about a little empathy? Or is that not allowed?

[QUOTE=Da Kid Infa]Hey,

I'm thinking about a trip to Columbia.

What are the basic rates for girls down there?

Also, where can I find them?[/QUOTE]Those are great questions.

Subjects that have never been discussed on the forum.

Thanks for bringing them up.

Don't make fun of the handicapped Ricker. It's unbecoming of you. Maybe he's blind and can't read?! hahaha

[QUOTE=Ricker]Those are great questions.

Subjects that have never been discussed on the forum.

Thanks for bringing them up.[/QUOTE]

Ahhhhh, for some reason mongers seem to think bafter some experience in Colombia that they know what everyone should do in regards to chicas, lodging, language, dress, etc., instead of just relayingb their experience. A bunch of judgemental ***** mongers, toooooo fuckin funny. Don't pay tooo much, now toooo little. Treat those girls with dignity while jerkin off in their face. I always operpay, my business. I have friends that try the cheap route, that is what they want, not my business. I guess that I have tried to save the *****s and also at times used them. Oh well, enjoy! Life is short.

[QUOTE=Frank Casio]Hey Jack,

You outed yourself in your report. I was talking in general and avoided any specifics. The reason I didn´t tell your little ass something was because it took me a few days to process what you were doing. I had never known anybody that bragged about being cheap with the girls and was proud of being called Costco Jack. It took me a while to process and to response to it.

The next guy that I thought was doing that after you left, was 6´4" inches and weighed 300 pounds and I set him down on the sofa and expressed my feelings. But he wasn´t trying to do what you were doing, he just wanted a massage for his hip, and he was used to getting theraputic massages for $30cop. After I explained to him that he would be hard pressed to find a girl in La Mayorista that would massage his leg for an hour for $30k he understood. I found him a girl that massaged him for 2 hours and he gave her $100kcop, they were both very happy.

So believe me, I would not have been afraid of seating your little ass on the same couch and telling you what was on my mind. But you caught me off guard and it took me a few days to react to your ignorance. If you think a guy that has been in La Mayorista for 3 years, where many a men fear to trot, and has experienced everything there is to experience here, is afraid of sitting your little ass down ant telling you what he thinks, well, you are a confused and arrogant old man. I tried to be generic, you made it personal, so it´s on you.

When I have guys stay at the hotel I precure the largest rooms for them in the whole of The Mayorista hotels, there are only 4 of those. They also have total access to all of My Place benefits. I pay for them in advance and make all of the arrangements, I´m a nice guy, but I´m not stupid, so I´m not going to do all that for $11US. But, of course to a cheap skate like you, $25US might seem excessive for all that I do. As for the little cock roaches, this is Itagui, not El Poblado, and even though I fumigate regularly you´re going to have some crossover from the other buildings and apartments. Next time try staying in El Poblado for what you want to pay.

And as for the maid, I pay her $50,000cop for the cleanning, the going rate is $35,000cop for an 8 hour day, and $50,000cop for the phuck. Both she and her mother are very happy that she doesn´t have to go out and work the streets anymore to bring food for her children. She makes about $500,000cop a month from me with the extras for 4 days work. When you consider that $500,000cop is the minimum wage here for a laborer´s work for a full month, 10 hour days, 6 days a week, 24 days a month. I think we can all agree that she´s not doing too bad for 4 days work.

I´m a fair guy, I try to give people a second chance. If you appologize to me publicly I will let you stay at My Place again, if you don´t, good luck, you are on your own.

Frank Casio ![/QUOTE]Hi Frank,

I will be at My Place in the 1st week of August.

Let's party and have some funs!

Also I would like to meet you guys in Medellin and hear your wild stories.

70% of my time will be spent for chicas, 10% for friendship w/ you guys, 10% for Tango clubs, and 10% for great restaurants.

Treat me nice, since I did not say Made-gin, Columbia.

Frank is a good guy, he is upfront, I vote for him no matter what. I do have my own story about fellow Americans lowballing chicas, which did not sit well with me. As happened with Frank, the guy will probably out himself and say things, but anyway here goes. This guy comes from the US, and hooks up with a chick he met via FB. She didn't flat out and say she was a working girl, so he plays her like they are girlfriend-boyfriend, even tho he is staying at the Mansion, and either doesn't pay her or pays her in drips and drabs. I finally call him on it, as I am offended, and he explains that she is not being honest with him, or something to that effect, and also that she does not take it up the ass, etc. This actually was his excuse for not paying her. I was and still am mortally offended. To travel 3,000 miles to take advantage of an extremely young single mother from a 3rd world country (maybe not technically accurate) is godawful and makes me ashamed of my countrymen.