Phnom Penh

[quote]If you value some peace and quiet don't stay there.[/quote]If you value some peace and quiet don't visit Phnom Penh.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1351894]If you value some peace and quiet don't visit Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Not a very useful negative comment about Phnom Penh. And for which could be substituted the names of a dozen cities in south east Asia.

Much of Phnom Penh is delightful quiet and relaxed. And of course the hostess bars and the hotels nearby are noisy.

But don't condemn Phnom Penh with a cheap throw away line.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1351894]If you value some peace and quiet don't visit Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Too true.

I'm just pointing out that while it's difficult to find a decent place in a quiet area it's not impossible.

Getting 3/4 hours sleep per night because of traffic noise in the morning gets to me after a few days, so I prefer to stay in an area where I can sleep in a bit.

[QUOTE=Leftfield1965; 1351916]Too true.

I'm just pointing out that while it's difficult to find a decent place in a quiet area it's not impossible.

Getting 3/4 hours sleep per night because of traffic noise in the morning gets to me after a few days, so I prefer to stay in an area where I can sleep in a bit.[/QUOTE]You're right. I stayed at a riverfront hotel and the motorbikes, cars, buses, trucks blowing their horns started at 5 ayem. That road is a highway. After a couple of days, I couldn't take it. Having a view of the river and all that was nice but the noise was horrific and I couldn't sleep thru it.

[QUOTE=D Cups;1348791]There are beauties and big boobs in every country if one looks hard enough. I love them all![/QUOTE]D Cups, I am happy you find the big boobs your name indicates you like. But Asia is heaven for us itty-bitty-titty lovers!

[QUOTE=Leftfield1965;1351916]Getting 3/4 hours sleep per night because of traffic noise in the morning gets to me after a few days, so I prefer to stay in an area where I can sleep in a bit.[/QUOTE]Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1352218]Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP.[/QUOTE]It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1352281]It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.[/QUOTE]I'm from New York bro.

I didn't say Phnom Penh should be avoided at all costs. Some people like it. Some people even like the urban centers of India (!). But if you dislike extremely loud noise on a consistent basis, or if you're a light sleeper who needs rest, then you should look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1352281]It is a sweeping generalisation to say that, as you suggest others should avoid Phnom Penh because of traffic noise. FFS, there are plenty of hotels away from Sisowath

Quay and other main streets where traffic noise is minimal. And many so-called noisy hotels have rooms on the back side.

It is a pity that some complain unjustifiably about so-called 'sleep deprivation' due to traffic noise unless you are used to living in a desert.[/QUOTE]You're a bit touchy there.

Anyone who's ever been to PP and says it's not a noisy city is deluded.

I've been to PP over 20 times in the last 3 1/2 years. I keep changing hotels because of the noise of traffic, weddings, funerals, karaoke joints, sales people with their 1000 watt speaker setups, etc.

Complaining about sleep deprivation in PP is not unjust. It is what it is, a noisy Asian city.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1352492]I'm from New York bro.

I didn't say Phnom Penh should be avoided at all costs. Some people like it. Some people even like the urban centers of India (!). But if you dislike extremely loud noise on a consistent basis, or if you're a light sleeper who needs rest, then you should look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]Qte Yeah, me too. That's why I avoid PP. Unqte.

So what do we believe.

[QUOTE=Leftfield1965; 1352498]You're a bit touchy there.

Anyone who's ever been to PP and says it's not a noisy city is deluded.

I've been to PP over 20 times in the last 3 1/2 years. I keep changing hotels because of the noise of traffic, weddings, funerals, karaoke joints, sales people with their 1000 watt speaker setups, etc. Complaining about sleep deprivation in PP is not unjust. It is what it is, a noisy Asian city.[/QUOTE]I am not at all touchy. Just feel I am dealing with a bunch of wimps who cannot stand a bit of urban noise. Get your bar fine to sit on your face and you will soon find quiet.

In Phnom Penh and as I expected after two massages I can say that a HJ is pretty well guaranteed. In one case after a 'balls massage' which rivaled the celebrated Rin in Bangkok.

Damn and after 40 minutes of erotic stimulation, I can't find the place again of Sisowath Quay.

On to something a little more productive, has anyone ever gotten any extras at Sakura massage on 130, about a block or two from the riverside? I stopped there twice when I was in PP, got a $5 body massage (had to wear satin pajamas, WTF, but it was a great Thai massage) and another time for a $7 oil massage (fully nude, a lot of playfulness and she even grabbed my dong a few times and made jokes, but refused to jack me off)?

I figured it was just a legit spot after my two visits but since then guys on other forums have said they got the firm hand shake to end the massage. I'm wondering if they're bullshitting or I simply couldn't get any action.

I did get a nice rub and tug at the massage shop across the street from Cyrcee.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1353069]On to something a little more productive, has anyone ever gotten any extras at Sakura massage on 130, about a block or two from the riverside? I stopped there twice when I was in PP, got a $5 body massage (had to wear satin pajamas, WTF, but it was a great Thai massage) and another time for a $7 oil massage (fully nude, a lot of playfulness and she even grabbed my dong a few times and made jokes, but refused to jack me off)?

I figured it was just a legit spot after my two visits but since then guys on other forums have said they got the firm hand shake to end the massage. I'm wondering if they're bullshitting or I simply couldn't get any action.

I did get a nice rub and tug at the massage shop across the street from Cyrcee.[/QUOTE]If the one opposite Cyrcee is the hairsalon, that is a dump, no clean sheets, very crampy and I walked away from there after 10 minutes. At Sakura I have been a number of times. It is OK with very friendly girls but I can hardly believe that anything more than massage is on offer at Sakura. I just do not believe it.

The Rex Hotel has a fish bowl on the first floor with ladies in blue polos (Cambodian) and pink polos (Vietnamese). At about 2pm there were perhaps 15. 20 girls in the fish bowl.

(50:50 Cambodian / Vietnamese). Massage US$10. 00 in a small room for an hour.

I made a mistake and picked a more mature Cambodian lady who rushed through the massage in 20 minutes with no teasing to encourage further investment and with a towel covering

The 'essential bits'. After the 20 minutes she suggested boom boom at US$ 100. 00 and was palpably unhappy when I reached for my clothes to get dressed. I was happy to 'lose'

US$10. 00 on a short (but quite good for a rushed) massage and get out. By this time little willy had lost all enthusiasm and we concluded with a little more massage.

No doubt boom boom is available here. I hope you pick better ladies who don't ask stupid* prices.

* I don't mind negotiating down from a sensible starting point but I get pissed off when the ladies take the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url].