Davao

I can only agree to what KK writes. One my one night on Burgos street in Manila I saw as many or more beautiful, slim and hot working girls than in all my trips here. You meet the occasional girl that are up for p4p. Yesterday on the street I met one that had that "I need a favor" slutty look. Turned out to be the best cock sucker in Davao. But still YOU are most often the person to approach the girls and sweet talk them. Like they quite not yet accepted the fact that they ARE willing to earn some money this way. And very cautious to what other people think. Not like in Manila where it seems like just an eye is what is required. The "angels" on the Toinko street, San Pedro, etc are pretty poor and look worn down many times. In addition often quite ill from STD and just standing there always. Went to Plaza the other day and all girls where quite old and to be considered options just to take that desperate look of your face when your go chasing some real teenage pussy. 400 for the massage/room and 1000-1500 makes those mothers more than happy. The quality of Plaza Roman is more more unreliable than the stock market right now.
I have maybe 10-12 number in my phone to Davao p4p girls, and to be honest I would say that only 3-4 really meet my standards. To big a ass, to saggy tits, the "are you done"-attitude, etc... But at least they come when you call and fuck like troopers. All numbers collected from plaza, the streets, hot legs, etc.

Having this said I just turned on my phone and have 11 messages waiting for me. Most likely ranging from ladyboys that want to hook you up with their 18 year old (female) friends and innocent school girls that just have to make the tuition fee, to the sweetest gf imaginable. To get laid here is NOT hard but forget the ways of the hard core p4p cities/areas. You need a little game to get in to the knickers of the real stunners. Or to spread heaps of money around, but then you are better off up north where all the province girls with looks AND flexible minds (legs) seem to end up. My advice is to go strait to the point. If you have a few you are dating and are happy with, but meet someone you would love to fuck without engaging in the gf-game, just present the option to help them out with school because you think the are "so incredible beautiful and attractive". Works surprisingly often if you have the slightest idea about how to package information. No one like to feel like a prostitute even if we all in some respect have to bend over for someone or something. If you get your kick from making girls feel like *****s you will have more success somewhere else.

Some days you just get lucky. As I was having a beer at one of my favorite bars the other night I got 3 invites within one hour. One waitress that I started to talk to and that studies in the same field I work. One medical student (chat mate) that just finished her tests and wanted some excitement and fun. And one third girl (chat mate) that was bored out of her head in her boarding house. No money involved. Just a lucky hour. Met up wit the last one 15 minutes later and made plans with the other two. Should have bought a ticket on the lottery as well that night. :-)

To party in Davao is a lot of fun in my opinion. Many bars and some night clubs that are loads of fun if you just hit them at the right hours. It has all been covered before. Easy to meet girl if you can get out of your bubble. The best option is to have a few girls ready. Invite the first one for a drink. If this turn out wrong (or if she brings out auntie/ladyboy friend) you move on to invite number two. This was naturally also the strategy on the "beer club night", and the four (non ISG) guys that met up had a great time. We ended up with three girls o age 24, 21 and 19. One guy is in love so he wanted to leave. :-) Two of the girls that turned up where pure stunners in my opinion. Slim, smart, fresh, pure. Wife candidates. Still dating one of course. Last stop was that sea food restaurant that goes 24 hours. Forgot the name. SML and fish soup at 5.30 pm. Yummi. Even here and at this hour (and state) it was quite easy to meet a girl. A 26 year old mother of two. Slim. Half Chinese. Wealth and quite tipsy. Very beautiful. Drove off in her car. Never replied to my text message though.

So long for now!

Barba

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[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]Thanks for the reality check that Davao is not so hot of a P4P city. I've got a friend who went there a few years ago after reading all the glowing reports by GE about the fantastic P4P action.

Needless to say, he was disappointed for the 2 nights he was there. He actually met GE to get an explanation. GE just shrugged his shoulders with his palms up as if to say "sorry, this is it." My friend was so enraged he actually lobbied Jackson to have the Davao thread removed from ISG.[/QUOTE]
Come on Dildo Danny, be fair, I think you can also thank GoodEnough for his opinions about Davao P4P, which are similar to mine. Contrary to what you say he says, GE has consistently said Davao is [u]NOT[/u] a big P4P city.

GE has said: "I've said before and I say again that if you're looking for a wild P4P scene, there are other, better places...." (13th Aug). And again, on 18th May GE said: "As I've said many times, if you're looking for P4P bars, and that's your primary interest in the country, then Davao is probably not for you." [Both items on the DS Davao Forum -which I do read!]

So DD, just check the facts and what GE actually said before rushing to post!

I don't think I've ever read anything from GE that wasn't true. Maybe your friend was letting his imagination run wild.

GE is usually writing about opportunities for picking up regular women and you usually need more than two nights to get things going. I've had good success in Davao.

If it wasn't for GE, I might never have ventured down to Mindanao.

If I'm not mistaken, ISG board is about "meeting woman for sex". I realize p4p is a common theme, but some posters seem to think p4p is the only kind of woman that gets discussed....not so!

X


[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]Thanks for the reality check that Davao is not so hot of a P4P city. I've got
a friend who went there a few years ago after reading all the glowing reports
by GE about the fantastic P4P action.

Needless to say, he was disappointed for the 2 nights he was there. He actually met GE to get an explanation. GE just shrugged his shoulders with his palms up as if to say "sorry, this is it." My friend was so enraged he actually lobbied Jackson to have the Davao thread removed from ISG.[/QUOTE]

Dear X. Thanks for the kind words. I think I've been rather consistent in saying that, if P4P is your thing, then Davao is probably not for you. As you and I, and many others know, while P4P does exist here, it's much more prevalent in other cities including both Manila and Cebu.

GE's post are informative and accurate in my experience. I have found Davao to be great for p4p, although some may not want that posted on here.

DD: I suggest the problem is not Davao but your friend. He stayed all of 48 hours and decided the p4p scene was lousy? So lousy he wanted the entire folder deleted? Sounds like an incredibly self centered individual. Dare I call him a loser? Likely has no game, hence only hard core hos might consider doing him. The beauty of Mindanao is the wobblers, girls who straddle the line between good and bad. The best p4p is generally with NON hookers but poor girls willing to sleep with a visitor they find attractive for "taxi money" or gifts.

YMMV applies EVERYWHERE. He sounds like the type that should stick to Pattaya where everything is point and click.

Ha, ha, great post HG. You show great eloquence in the wording of your portrayal of Mr. "loser". Well done.

But my real admiration comes from you coining a new word in my lexicon. Wobbler....bless their wobbling hearts.

My last visit to the Philippines had a strange twist. The usual p4p girls, one definite wobbler (being cared for by an 80ish grandmother), but then there was one very hot mid. class girl with a decent job, and one lady whose career allowed for a three bedroom apartment, maid, driver, auto, etc. The later dug her heels into the back of my thighs so hard I had bruises. Pubic bone bruise as well, thank you very much.

(Oops, two of three non p4p ladies described were first met online. I can't believe there are still guys at ISG who say that this is a "waste of time".)

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]GE's post are informative and accurate in my experience. I have found Davao to be great for p4p, although some may not want that posted on here.

DD: I suggest the problem is not Davao but your friend. He stayed all of 48 hours and decided the p4p scene was lousy? So lousy he wanted the entire folder deleted? Sounds like an incredibly self centered individual. Dare I call him a loser? Likely has no game, hence only hard core hos might consider doing him. The beauty of Mindanao is the wobblers, girls who straddle the line between good and bad. The best p4p is generally with NON hookers but poor girls willing to sleep with a visitor they find attractive for "taxi money" or gifts.

YMMV applies EVERYWHERE. He sounds like the type that should stick to Pattaya where everything is point and click.[/QUOTE]

Two pictures (not recent).

One I met online and had in my bed three hours after meeting her at Victoria mall.

The other a streetwalker near Mandaya -- had in my Casa Leticia bed 15 minutes later. Her sis was pretty hot too.

Which one is which? And how bad could Davao possibly be?

X

Well Dildo, Jackson must have thought it worthwhile so why not direct your question to him? After all, it's his board and presumably, he thought the decision was justified. I'm still waiting for your first substantive contribution to either one of the boards. So far, all you've done is make insipid comments on the posts of other people who actually do make contributions.

GE

Thanks for the post Dildo. I've never paid much attention to the game of golf, guys chasing little balls around. I was still in elementary school when the event you mention took place.

It took me a while to figure out what you were on about. Oh, MY pants? They are shorts, not bell bottoms. Since you were fixated on my attire, I can't help but wondering... Did you notice that there was a naked woman in the picture?

BTW, I'm not comfortable sending pictures of my trousers to men, so please don't pm me.

Have a good day Dildo.

X

[QUOTE=Dildo Danny]Those plaid pants look a little like what Johnny Miller wore in the U.S. Open about about 35 years ago. Are they bell bottoms too?

Since Davao is no different than any other town in Phils with respect to the ease of picking up regular girls, why does it have not one but two threads devoted to it? What's next, the Agusan del Norte thread?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The opportunities are fairly limited but they do exist. You can go to Roman Plaza on Cabaguio Rd. during the day and use the massage service or pick up one of the girls and use the short time hotel in the back. I'm told it's very clean and secure though I've never used it.

The other suggestion is to spring free for just one night and hit some of the other P4P clubs--Hot Legs 1,2,3 and others--and get some phone numbers for daytime contacts. Then you can make your own arrangements to hook up as needed in one of the short time hotels.

GE[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips.

I tried the Roman Plaza yesterday (late morning). Got ushered around the side by a security guy. There were about 5 or so very average thirtish girls and a very cute, as it turns, out 22 year old. Needless to say, I took her. She said it was only her third day there. Which I believe as she did not know her way around the darkened room complexes. The room was large, clean and also had a big spa. She feined that she was only a masseuse ha ha. Anyway, the deal was 400 p for the room for one hour. I assumed I had to negotiate the rest. So I said I'd give her 600 p for a nice massage. Anyway after a bit of encouragement she said that she would do the business and her initial reluctance I put down to her having her last day of 'mens". Anyway, once I said that it would not worry me she was a willing participant. Full on GFE. I was in a hurry and overpaid with a 1000p that I chucked in for the friendly service. I will try to be a bit more hard nosed next time.

My ratings:

Body 7.5
Face 7.5
GFE 8
The rest 7.

Only being here (Davao)for not very long, I get the impression that there are many many very nice girls available if you are willing to persevere. When I'm without my gf, I get a lot of the usual 'foreigner attention, and it would be easy ti hook up with shop assists and students.

If you are limited with time and need to bang as many girls as possible in a short time, Angeles with it's 'supermarket sex" would be better.

Now that I am living in Davao, I will explore the rest of what's available. Of note, someone said that one of the girlie bars was raided earlier in the week. But I have no further details. I will return to the Roman Plaza next week and see whats on offer.

Thanks for the report Steve. I haven't been to Roman Plaza in about five years and it sounds as if nothing much has changed. You've put your finger on the unique characteristic of Davao. It's got to be the easiest place in the world to meet "normal" (by that I mean non P4P) women. They're everywhere, and they're approachable more than 90% of the time. It can be a bit like a kid in a candy store who wants to taste everything, or at least it was for me for the first few months that I was here.

The problem is that despite it's enormous size, Davao is a small town and there aren't many of us foreigners here. So once you get known a bit, it's pretty tough to hide anything, and you're always likely to find someone who knows someone who knows your girlfriend. It's why on the very rare occasions that I do go out here, I'm always very cautious and very discreet. VIP rooms. P4P girls. Wham bam thank you ma'am and then home. On the other hand, I do travel a lot to other cities in Mindanao where the same rules do not apply.

In Davao, and more so in the rest of Mindanao, foreigners remains something of a rare commodity and there's that fascination with everything western that can prove a huge advantage.

Maybe we'll run into each other sometime at Henny's (De Bonte Koe) or one of the other expat watering holes/restaurants.

Enjoy your stay.

GE

This last month I stayed at three places: Royal Mandaya Hotel, Hotel Galleria, and Casa de Habana. My assessment:

Royal Mandaya Hotel ([url]www.royalmandaya.com[/url]) is handily located to central Davao on J Palma Gil Street. It is self-promoted as “the first premium hotel in Davao City”. Although built in the 1990s it has a strong 1960-70s feel about it! It was the most expensive of the places I stayed (2,900 pesos a night) but it just felt tired, vast and empty. No character. I lasted only one night there at this 161 room hotel. At that price I would expect internet cable or WiFi in the room, but not so. It seemed to be a 400 meter walk from check-in to the elevator, but I exaggerate a little. It does have a swimming pool and some great views of the city.

Hotel Galleria on Gov Duterte Street (hgadicor@info.com.ph ) is a 43 a/c room hotel including penthouse suite. My superior room, overlooking the swimming pool, was 1,400 pesos. I had stayed there a year ago, to be disturbed for most of the night by an air-conditioning unit going through its last gasps of life. Tried the help desk at 2am and again at 3am for fixing, and they walked in with a new unit at 7am! This was a sufficient wake up call for my partner and I to go at it again; very memorable! This time everything went sweetly, courteous staff, good restaurant/bar. But no WiFi in the rooms; but it is available in reception at a price. A better prospect is to use the internet cafes nearby (at least 3) with a small chance of chatting up some local lovelies. Also nearby are plenty of restaurants and Gaisano City (just 100 meters away). What is also nice about the Galleria is the small pool, with a small adjacent waterfall; but it could be better enhanced at night with poolside and underwater lighting.

Casa de Habana ([url]www.casadehabana.com[/url]) at 29 Rizal Street is adjacent to the Habana ancestral home and very central to a lot of the local action. Casa de Habana offers very neat and tidy rooms, at a very good price. Room rates vary from 650 pesos for a single standard room to 950 pesos for double deluxe room. I stayed in a deluxe room on an upper floor, well away from the music and street noise below. With new partners I like shifting around a bit!. Casa de Habana is literally within 10 meters of De Bonte Koe European Restaurant, Chico’s Music Bistro and dance, SomePlace Else Restaurant and Claude’s Choisir boutique café, all on the Habana property. Just up the road on Rizal Street is the Rizal Promenade, and Club 183, and other entertainment.

In an earlier visit, April-May, I stayed for a period at Casa Ruby and lesser time at Las Casitas. I have reported on these places previously in this forum, but in summary:

Casa Ruby Pension House is a nice quiet, even homely retreat, which (certainly with its Blue Room) can give you the mongering privacy you may desire. Located in Marbini Street it is adjacent to the Circumferential Road, and not too far from downtown. Casa Ruby ([url]www.casarubydavao.com[/url]) is small but your privacy is respected. Unlike the other places reviewed here I had a dedicated cable and wireless option to my room. But not all rooms have this internet set up. Prices are in the 900-1300 peso per night range.

Las Casitas is a new (less than 3 year-old) hotel in Rizal Street a few doors from Club 183 and the Rizal Promenade. I have stayed there a couple of times, preferring it to Hotel Galleria, which has similar pricing. Rooms were a little more cramped, but facilities newer and cleaner. There is a nice coffee bar downstairs with WiFi connection.

KongKing

Week 1: Desperation, frustration and excitement. I fuck girls I would normally not buy a beer. Big girls, older girls, saggy tits, first class sluts. If they are clean and have some attractive traits I want to nail her to the sheets. Or if she is a non pro and swallows or/and takes it up the ass. Not to picky this week. And then naturally I meet the the regular old times "girlfriends" that are nice to sleep with, but in all honest not as exciting as some new pussy. In addition there is the ocasional suprises that you just fall over. A smile and a Hi followed by a "do you want to check out my hotel? ". A lot of party this week normally. And a few hours "work". All feels new and great to reexperience, even though this week tend to be more about quantity than quality. Normally on the soliders/blue every day. Beaches or just chasing pussy anywhere with some mate in the days.

Week 2: things are starting to fall in place. Some of the really pretty girls I have been attending on the chats or previous trips are begining to feel special after all the special treatment they got. Knickers off. Some days no luck so just fall back plans or girlfriend (s), but still bedding 1-2 girls a day and a few in the loop keeps Barba busy. By the end of week two I normaly have a few new potentials texting intensly and they guys at the short term hotels smiling at my returns. Normaly the "new girls" are stunners met in the malls, stores or nightclubs. I pick the ones I really like and walk up to them without hesitation. Rarely restaurant or bar staff since I tend to want to meet them when they normally work. By the end of this week I normally start suffering from severe pusy overdose and only focus on special experiences. If not special, I see no excitement or point in pusuing. Still normally at least one girl a day but sometimes the same as another day and most always something special. This trips theme came to be petit girls. 5 feet and 38 kilos. 4. 9 and 36 kilos. 5. 1 and 41 kilos. Can't have enoght of those tight little sweethearts. At least two wife candidates under 40 kilos on this trip. Wife candidate in the sence that we will keep in touch and meet again next time I get the opertunity to come to Davao. Other overdoses that normaly hits me like a wet towel by the end of week 2 are: . Driving my bike in hot weather and jeepney-crowded streets. Rice and grilled chicken in outdoor "restaurants". (Suggested cure: Hennys spotted cow amongst others). SM lights (try curing this with for example a glass of Hennys house wine). Stupid cab drivers. Ordering the same thing several times. Getting the ice cream with the rice. Texting 8000 messages a day. Especial replies to the "did you have you lunch yet? "-message. Load requests. "Can I bring a friend? ". Guys pushing fake Oakleys despite the fact I wear sunglasses. Balot horn honks. I choose to stop here. Most things about Davao is way better than home so no need to get carried away.

Week 3: Normally the last week in Davao. Ocassional days without sex. Just dinners, beaches and relaxation with friends and girls. Less party and less alcohol. Oh yea. And some "work". Maintanance of relations and just relaxing in the ones that was singled out as worth to keep alive. And the massage from my regular little massage and cock sucker expert. Also she is a 5 foot and 40 kilo petit cutie. Fantastic experience to see the cum shoot out of her nostrils after one hour of gagging.

I notice an increased amount of forigners down here. Many first class loosers and idiots unfortunately. To bad that comersials work. I'll shut the fuck up from now on. Davao sucks! Good for nothing. Forget P4P here. Do you read me G. E?

Some new places I tried:

The Indian rest at Damosa. Overpriced. Dry chicken. Out of stock. Warm beer on a Saturday evening. The entertainment would have been out of date already in the 80: s.

Hotel Regency Inn. Good and cheap hotel close to Gaisano. Get a room with windows. 1300 a night. Not a first choice for me but proved to be an aceptable option when all the rest where full. Free wifi in the lobby.

Bagobo House. Read above about Regency and change Gaisano for South Gaisano, I. E. Right in the middle of a lot of good streets. Not good but but some rooms are acceptable for the 1000 and something a room cost. Ongoing renovation is annoying though. No Internet.

Tower Inn. Looked like a shit hotel in my opinion. Smelly and dirty. I kept on looking.

The Italian restaurant at Quirino Street, just after Davaos Doctors hospital and before you enter Bankero Han bridge. Look to the left for the illuminated pizza sign. Well worth a visit. A nice collection of red wines and the only decent pizza I ever had in Davao.

By the way. Autoshop is dying from snobism and 183 is rocking! Venue is still Venue. De Bonte Koe is a great way to cure rice boredom. The jazz in the background makes the visit extra relaxing.

Bedtime.

Best from Barba!

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I also stayed one night at this sterile and totally dead hotel. Never again. Grand Men Seng is cozy compared to this one, and that is NOT a compliment to GMS.

[QUOTE=KongKing]Royal Mandaya Hotel ([url]www.royalmandaya.com[/url]) is handily located to central Davao on J Palma Gil Street. It is self-promoted as "the first premium hotel in Davao City". Although built in the 1990s it has a strong 1960-70s feel about it! It was the most expensive of the places I stayed (2, 900 pesos a night) but it just felt tired, vast and empty. No character. I lasted only one night there at this 161 room hotel. At that price I would expect internet cable or WiFi in the room, but not so. It seemed to be a 400 meter walk from check-in to the elevator, but I exaggerate a little. It does have a swimming pool and some great views of the city. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barba]Week 1: Desperation, frustration and excitement. I fuck girls I would normally not buy a beer. Big girls, older girls, saggy tits, first class sluts. If they are clean and have some attractive traits I want to nail her to the sheets. Or if she is a non pro and swallows or/and takes it up the ass.

Not to picky this week. And then naturally I meet the the regular old times "girlfriends" that are nice to sleep with, but in all honest not as exciting as some new pussy. This week tend to be more about quantity than quality.

Week 2: things are starting to fall in place. Some of the really pretty girls I have been attending on the chats or previous trips are begining to feel special after all the special treatment they got. Knickers off. Some days no luck so just fall back plans or girlfriend (s), but still bedding 1-2 girls a day and a few in the loop keeps Barba busy. By the end of week two I normaly have a few new potentials texting intensly and they guys at the short term hotels smiling at my returns. Normaly the "new girls" are stunners met in the malls, stores or nightclubs.
Can't have enough of those tight little sweethearts. At least two wife candidates under 40 kilos on this trip. Wife candidate in the sense that we will keep in touch and meet again next time I get the opportunity to come to Davao. Other overdoses that normaly hits me like a wet towel by the end of week 2 are: . Driving my bike in hot weather and jeepney-crowded streets. Rice and grilled chicken in outdoor "restaurants". (Suggested cure: Hennys spotted cow amongst others). SM lights (try curing this with for example a glass of Hennys house wine). Stupid cab drivers. Ordering the same thing several times. Getting the ice cream with the rice. Texting 8000 messages a day. Especial replies to the "did you have you lunch yet? "-message. Load requests. "Can I bring a friend? ".

Week 3: Normally the last week in Davao. Ocassional days without sex. Just dinners, beaches and relaxation with friends and girls. Less party and less alcohol. Oh yea. And some "work". Maintanance of relations and just relaxing in the ones that was singled out as worth to keep alive. And the massage from my regular little massage and cock sucker expert. Also she is a 5 foot and 40 kilo petit cutie. Fantastic experience to see the cum shoot out of her nostrils after one hour of gagging.

I notice an increased amount of forigners down here. Many first class loosers and idiots unfortunately. To bad that comersials work. I'll shut the fuck up from now on. Davao sucks! Good for nothing. Best from Barba!
[/QUOTE]
Great summary and analysis there Barba! And I loved your phased development: quantity versus quality in the first week, (until you get your rocks off), then moving to more selective quality later!

Yep, I agree with you that new pussy is more exciting. Bit like married life eh, gets a bit dull, monotonous and predictable. Nailing the bit on the side is a challenge and thrill!

Here are a few questions:
Short term hotels: What have you found, recommend? Im familiar with Queensland Lodge.

Takes it up the Ass??? What's the acceptance rate of that? I don't really push that but would like to try. And when I do try I meet a little resistance, as it were!!

You obviously have a good client management system: developing and maintaining internet chats, text and phone management, personal follow-ups. Any tips about how you do it?? Two phones? What do you tell them? That you are moving on? Shifting hotels regularly? Any embarassing re-meets? Davao is, I found a small place!

Cum shooting out her nostrils???!! Jez Barba where are you, or she, sticking it??!

What's the ratio for you of locally picked up new girls (Malls waitresses, bars, street etc) compared to your pre-arranged net-wooed girls and return bouts?

I loved your list of "overdoses"! True.

Well done! and after week three I bet you were!

Ohhh yes, I agree with you. Davao is a dull place, mongers should go elsewhere! Yea, right!


KK

Barba.

Excellent report , both informative AND entertaining , the sign of a good report.

Think I will give it a "r.o.h.d" , not r.o.d.

rohd = report of high distinction.


Kong King of Reports.

Another very helpful report. Facts. If you want the facts its Kong. I said I would not mention r.o.d propoganda again , but geez some junk on other threads gets r.o.d. , Kongs factual report was worth a rod. Think ISG should invest in more relevant and reliable r.o.d. software or drop the concept altogether , best option to drop it , considering fatality rate of existing sofware.

Not so much quantity on this thread , but reports here are often of good quality and most helpful. Plus sometimes entertaining , eg Barba the Beasts recent one.

Thanks lads. Apart from the world financial crisis , your contributions made my day.

I wonder sometimes, if it's possible to somehow quantify the economic impact of the Davao forum on the economy of this city. I never much thought about this until I started to meet guys at De Bonte Koe whom I had never met before, with whom I had never corresponded, and of whose identities I was unaware, who told me that they had come to the restaurant--and several to the city itself--because of posts they had read from Davao "regulars" on this board, This of course started me thinking that for everyone I met, there may be another, two others, or a dozen, whom I never met but who decided to come here because of this forum.

Assuming that most guys who stay here remain for at least four or five days, and assuming that they spend at least $100 a day on average, the impact could be reasonably strong. Now just imagine that these guys average at least one girl a day and they're paying the girls who are in turn giving part of their hard-earned cash to their families and just imagine how many families--and how many individual Filipinos--may be benefitting from the largesse of of board members.

Maybe the city fathers here need to put up (dare I say erect?) a brass plaque to Jackson for his economic impact on the city.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]

Maybe the city fathers here need to put up (dare I say erect?) a brass plaque to Jackson for his economic impact on the city.

GE[/QUOTE]

And to you too !

I tend to always go to the ST hotel one on the back side of Plaza Roman. The taxi will enter a little driveway to the left of plaza if you are facing Place, I. E. Just before Plaza normally since you most often come from that way when driving there. A few levels of pricing but I go for the 300 peso rooms. Do not need the Jacuzzi (350) and I don't want to try anything less good to save 100 peso. As you mention, you also have Queensland (around 300 / 3 hours also) if your down south near Toril or Bungoyan. Next to Queensland, towards the city, you have a 100 peso / 3 hour place but its a shit hole in my opinion.

I saw commercials for Prince Court today. "From 195 peso" indicates ST is possible. Looked OK on the pictures. Tel: 082-225-8188.

Out of the ones I asked Id say that 40% accepted anal. But I ask far from all. Last two ones was my GF (ex virgin who is exploring it all) and one girl who needs to earn cash on the side. Not pro, just broke. I paid her 2000 for anal and to swallow. It takes a little bit of talent to bring such delicate matters to an agreement. I just try to be direct but at the same time show respect.

On the topic maintaining contacts I must say that without small reminders next to the girls name in my phone, I would be fucked. Just a small code for where I meet them and how I find them. I am very quick and direct in asking a girl for their number. Even if I just cruise down C Bank/Toinko and see a cute hooker I like, I have a chat and ask for their number for future contacts. Or if I see a sales clerk or just a girl that I find pretty. What can you lose? 9 out of 10 replies to a friendly text. To be honest I do not think the websites are the best if you wish to optimize your time her, I. E. Not waste any time with girls who will not get their knickers off. 1) the girls are often experienced when it comes to "the ways of a foreigner". 2) The photos never tell you the truth. Better to have a few nice girls from the chats that you are sure of and then spice up the every day promenades by approaching exactly the girls that fall in your flavor. I chat with some 10 girls (always changing) normally at the time and use the detailed info field for adding notes about the girls. Without this id be totally confused where I met them and what we talked about before. One name in the dating sites, one name on friendster, one in reality and another one on Yahoo. Can get messed up.

I keep two SIMs. Never mix business and pleasure. Dual SIM phone does the trick. And I try to reply in a nice and friendly manner to most of the texts I get. This is a main source of bonding, hence I take the annoyance and get into texting a lot when in Davao. But its crucial to use the excuses when required. "Out of load", "Tired", "In a meeting", . Just silence is never well perceived.

I had one quite embarrassing moment when I was dating a girl who's neighbor I dated the day before. Massive send outs on dating sites are not good since I found the girls sometimes register in groups of friends and relatives. And believe me they do talk here. Needless to say I did not get far with any of those neighbors, but I still keep in touch with one (very sexy with heavy boobs) and the other one actually surfaced today with a text that she would love to meet up tomorrow.

Id say that out of the girls I have sex with 30% are from websites. The rest I meet when I am in Davao. Normally just 10-20% are regular working girls, the rest are "normal" girls that I meet here and there. Websites are good but I rarely visit those sites when in Davao. The face to face meeting in malls and clubs normally gives a better ratio and more predictable outcome in my opinion. /Barba

[QUOTE=KongKing]Great summary and analysis there Barba! And I loved your phased development: quantity versus quality in the first week, (until you get your rocks off), then moving to more selective quality later!

Yep, I agree with you that new pussy is more exciting. Bit like married life eh, gets a bit dull, monotonous and predictable. Nailing the bit on the side is a challenge and thrill!

Here are a few questions:

Short term hotels: What have you found, recommend? I'm familiar with Queensland Lodge.

Takes it up the Ass? What's the acceptance rate of that? I don't really push that but would like to try. And when I do try I meet a little resistance, as it were!

You obviously have a good client management system: developing and maintaining internet chats, text and phone management, personal follow-ups. Any tips about how you do it? Two phones? What do you tell them? That you are moving on? Shifting hotels regularly? Any embarassing re-meets? Davao is, I found a small place!

Cum shooting out her nostrils? ! Jez Barba where are you, or she, sticking it? !

What's the ratio for you of locally picked up new girls (Malls waitresses, bars, street etc) compared to your pre-arranged net-wooed girls and return bouts?

I loved your list of "overdoses"! True.

Well done! And after week three I bet you were!

Ohhh yes, I agree with you. Davao is a dull place, mongers should go elsewhere! Yea, right!

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I have just posted under the "Other Areas" Forum a report about Cagayan de Oro nightclubs, amongst other things. I compared it with Davao nightclubs.

I said:
Most of these (Cagayan) nightclubs have full nudity but it is not "in your face" as it were. All places, and some were mediocre, exceeded what I have seen on offer in Davao. I have been to Hotlips 1 and Hotlips 3. The latter I went to a few weeks ago and it was just crude and unrefined. One of the sequences on stage was a bathing scene, with one girl soaping the other, and herself. In the "show" I saw the girls complained about the cold water, then they needed more soap. They seemed to be in conversation and giggling with the girls at the back. And they had little raport with the miserable (understandable) audience. I get pissed off with girls who dance continually looking at themselves in front of the mirrors. Davao nightclubs are the pits!

Others may have a better opinion of Davao nightclubs.

KongKing

Ah Barba, it's too bad, given my situation in Davao, that you and I could not have a night out. I would love to see you in action. I've never been smart enough, or perhaps interested enough to keep all the ladies straight and when I return home from a trip--to CDO, Zambo, Manila, or in the most recent case, Cambodia, I just purge my phone and start again on the next trip. It's just too much of a hassle to keep them straight and then I'm always afraid of the random text message popping up just as I ask my wife in Davao to bring me my phone cause I've forgotten and left it downstairs. One of the nice features of my dual sim (I think you have the same one I do) is that you can selectively block phone calls and texts, and this I do with great regularity.

The "shows" in CDO, and indeed in Davao, vary in their degrees of nudity depending on the attitudes of the police at any given time. I've been to CDO when nudity was prohibited for a few weeks, and then it all started again. Ditto for Davao. As to "refinement," I've never found any in either city in the clubs. This is not the Moulin Rouge or Crazy Horse or Lido in Paris. It's the Philippines, where refinement and sophistication are strictly foreign words and concepts. Personally, I do not see a great deal of difference between the two cities in this regard, and in fact the last time I went to Hot Legs (not Lips) with a friend I had a great time.

GE

[QUOTE=KongKing]Others may have a better opinion of Davao nightclubs.
KongKing[/QUOTE]Nope, I do not have a better opinion. Fully concur with what you have said, lol.

GE,

I read you Cambodia reports. I'll interigate you about the place next time we meet. Can't make up my mind if it's a place to visit or just another big Asian city with loads of hard headed women.

About the night out. Fortunately I keep coming back and back and back... I'll host a party next time and invite you. No vifys or GF:s, though. Strictly "business". ;-)

Cheers mongers!

B

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Ah Barba, it's too bad, given my situation in Davao, that you and I could not have a night out.[/QUOTE]

Dear all

Can someone give me some advices for daytime fun in Davao. I will be there with my GF and while she is shopping would like to get laid. I won't have much time - so a ST hotel which provides girls or a massage parlor who offers some specials would be the best. Thanks for good hints...

Sumart

[QUOTE=Sumart]Dear all

Can someone give me some advices for daytime fun in Davao. I will be there with my GF and while she is shopping would like to get laid. I won't have much time - so a ST hotel which provides girls or a massage parlor who offers some specials would be the best. Thanks for good hints...

Sumart[/QUOTE]Ok. Speaking from limited experience here in Davao, the one place that comes to mind is the massage place behind Plaza Roman on Cabagiou Avenue.

Taxi driver will know Plaza Roman. Just walk around the side, and a security guard will usher the girls out. Price for room (massage 1 hour) is 400p. Its up to you to then negotiate what you want. I've been there 4 or 5 times. It's a little expensive with the girls normally asking for around 2 500 for a full service. I now find my lovelies on the internet and go to a short time hotel. Much more fun and much cheaper. But given your situation, unless you can tee something up on-line with a Filipina that is actually on time haha, the Plaza Roman might be your best bet.

There are always one or two little cuties available amongst the also rans.

Anyway, goodluck!

[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]...Plaza Roman on Cabagiou Avenue.[/QUOTE]Plaza Roman massage opens at 6 pm, and sometimes later. 1000-1500 is the going rate for full service. 2500 makes the girl very happy.

It´s a bit of a chance, but I can send you some numbers for girls to call and arrange meetings with if you need to see a girl before 6 pm. And if your a good guy of course.

I suggest you pick them up in your own cab and drive to the short term hotel next to Plaza Roman. 200-300 for ST rent of the room. If your the other side
of the river, towards Ecoland and Matina, your better of going to Queensland.

If you wish to get a choice I have some guys that can hook you up with girls. One is working in the ST hotel at Plaza Roman, so he can have her waiting for you. ;-)

The street/bar scene is more or less dead before night, but sometimes you can try any of the Hot Legs (or bars in that area) to get a girl. Quite a high risk that this mission fails during daytime though.

The third option is to get in to a cab and ask him to take you to a casa. If he is clueless you immediately change cab, until you get lucky.

Daytime mongering in Davao is not simple unless you have some numbers to call.

Dildo /Danny my first wife is from Agusan Del Norte. Cabadabaran to be exact. Always am interested in hearing about Butuan as when the kids visit Grandma I will stay there. Me being an X son-inlaw.

[QUOTE=Barba]Plaza Roman massage opens at 6 pm, and sometimes later. 1000-1500 is the going rate for full service. 2500 makes the girl very happy.

It´s a bit of a chance, but I can send you some numbers for girls to call and arrange meetings with if you need to see a girl before 6 pm. And if your a good guy of course.

I suggest you pick them up in your own cab and drive to the short term hotel next to Plaza Roman. 200-300 for ST rent of the room. If your the other side
of the river, towards Ecoland and Matina, your better of going to Queensland.

If you wish to get a choice I have some guys that can hook you up with girls. One is working in the ST hotel at Plaza Roman, so he can have her waiting for you. ;-)

The street/bar scene is more or less dead before night, but sometimes you can try any of the Hot Legs (or bars in that area) to get a girl. Quite a high risk that this mission fails during daytime though.

The third option is to get in to a cab and ask him to take you to a casa. If he is clueless you immediately change cab, until you get lucky.

Daytime mongering in Davao is not simple unless you have some numbers to call.[/QUOTE]I've actually been to Plaza Roman as early as 10am and girls are available, although they have to switch on the lights and stuff /power in the room haha.

Steve, did you do any special arrangements? I was there at 4-5 pm last time and not a soul to be found.

I tried going in the back with the guard sometimes when I was early (around 4-5) but this time there was no one.

/B

[QUOTE=Barba]Steve, did you do any special arrangements? I was there at 4-5 pm last time and not a soul to be found.

I tried going in the back with the guard sometimes when I was early (around 4-5) but this time there was no one.

/B[/QUOTE]I've only been there in the morning arriving between 1000 and 1100. One of the girls said that they were open from 0600 AM? But maybe I heard her wrong.

The guard normally hustles up the girls, at least a half a dozen from around the back. Then I normally have to wait five minutes, while they go and turn on the power/lights to the building/massage rooms.

So what does casa mean? Brothel?

There really is an embarrassment of riches on the internet. Why bother with Plaza Roman I say. I met a real cutie this morning and took her to the short time motel next to Plaza Roman. She was 22 but looked 18. Usual story, had to stop nursing studies due to lack of money. A real gf experience! Fantastic body!

She's happy to see me once a week in future.

casa is normally just a house where they get a couple or more girls that you can choose from. quite often a skanky place, but this has it's appeal as well. be aware of ****d girls.

yes, pre set up dates is the way to go in davao. no brainer and the cost is the same or less. thats how i met all my "gf:s". the pros are barely a f*ck and forget experience in 80% of the cases in davao. not like the p4p scene in manila where quality pros seem to be in abundance.

but for a first visitor with no connections and just a couple of hours to get laid, plaza is maybe the most reliable option.

b

.. for the good advises. Unless I get more ideas I will try my luck in Plaza Roman - even during daytime? As far as I understood I have to ask the guard and he will call the girls and let me in, correct?

Thanks again

Sumart

OK.

When I normally arrive out the front of Plaza Roman, as you face the building, on the right hand side of the car park is a security guard post. Just tell guard you are looking for massage. he will direct you down the walkway at the side of the building, maybe 20m. There is normally another security guard there and when he hears massage, he will go to the building behind Plaza Roman and usher out the girls. Most are pretty ordinary, but there is always one or two who are attractive You pick one and then, if it is in the morning, they normally have to open up for you. Might take a few minutes to get power etc.

Once in the room pay the orderly 400 p for room (1 hour). The girls will hustle for money so you really shouldn't pay more than 2500. If you can get away with 1500 or less well and good.

Again, good luck

Steve

Hi,

I got pm: d about the casas and think this is of general intrest. I went only 3 times, either for me or to pick up someone for my friend. The procedure was to go with a taxi to god knows where. Each time we ended up bringin a pretty girl away from a rather skanky house to the hotel. Not much choices but pretty girls. You could tell that they where not used to this. I remember one asked 500 and kept 300 (before my buddy tiped her). I was told there are casas wher you can stay for ST. Anyone tried this?

I am also interested in this option.

I will start canvassing taxi drivers - try and collect some intel.

The only problem is, I have fairly rapidly filled my 'dance card' with some nice girls.
My live in gf is also somewhat demanding and gets suspicious if I don't service her regularly. Oh to be 10 years younger haha.

Ahhh this is a great place!

Steve

Any of you long term residents of Davao know a good supplier of Viagra?

I am starting to chew through my current stock and was wondering the easiest way to resupply (or perhaps I should just stop bonking every day haha)

Can you just front up to say a Mercury Drug Store here and buy over the counter or do you need a docs script?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Steve

Viagra and Cialis can be bought in for example the drug store in Victoria. No prescription required. But they are expensive. Often more than 500 a pill when I asked around during my last trip to Davao a couple of months ago. Maybe you should try some alternatives.

I posted some info on this here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=780874&postcount=660[/url]

Barba

Unfortunately, I've never found anyone here who sells the stuff on the street. I think the Mercury route will depend on which Mercury you go to and who waits on you. I've gotten it without a prescription but I had to bullshit for about 5 minutes before it was sold to me. I told the lady that I had a prescription back in the US but had forgotten to bring it with me. Conversely you can go to about any doctor here, pay him/her a few dollars and get a prescription. It takes about ten minutes.

GE

I have an old prescription from home. Might try that first.

I am really trying to avoid being branded the stereotypical foreigner.

Middle-aged, horny and mainlining Viagra - bonking all the young locals.

However,there's probably no avoiding it. Haha.

Steve

Whats the best Philippines city for mongering? Looking for best quality and a fun time. I've been to Thailand over a dozen times but a PI virgin. I tend to go for go-go's in BKK because I find the best quality and I finesse the attitude. Also do Phuket over Pattaya because the quality of the town. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

After spending one evening in Manila I can conclude that the answer is NOT Davao, thats for sure.

Barba

[QUOTE=MrMorton]Whats the best Philippines city for mongering?[/QUOTE]

Davao is NOT the place to get V. Prices are ridiculous and generic is VERY hard to find and still WAY overpriced. A 10 minute, $10, doctor visit solve the prescription problem but not the pricing problem. I must have tried more than a dozen places all over town.

Best is to bring it with you, but if you must get it in the PI Malate and Angeles seem to be the primary places where it is easily available from street vendors.

One evening in Manila...and you know so much. How impressive.
X

[QUOTE=Barba]After spending one evening in Manila I can conclude that the answer is NOT Davao, thats for sure.

Barba[/QUOTE]

Well, from what I saw in Manila I definately think there is a lot of street action, bars of all types, massage, etc in Manila. And this is simply not the case in Davao; hence the NOT.

One could even take this one step futher and deduct that I do NOT claim to know much about Manila at all, but could already after one evening conclude that Davao is waaaaay behind Manila when it comes to P4P. So yes I know "so much", but it is still "NOT much".

What is your opinion XMan? You think Davao beats Manila when it comes to bars, clubs, street action, massage, escorts, etc? If so, I would love to read about what parts of Davao you visit.

H

[QUOTE=X Man]One evening in Manila...and you know so much. How impressive.
X[/QUOTE]

Its amazing that some come here and offer so much insight with such little time in Philippines. Not that I am an expert but I think 12 flights and much travel around certainly gives me a little insight. Even having said that I still occasionally ask advice from time to time.

Now as far as Davoe is concern. There is action to be had here. There more freelancers than anything else but it can be had and had very cheaply. Now having said that. If you are really really on a budget this maybe the place to go because there is a great hotel in town that is very very good for P1000 a night. Also. Taxi can help find decent quality girl and you may want to research more if you plan to go the route of the block at the exchange bank.

NCCC mall especially has willing perticipants as well as sm mall. Yes manila is obviously a haven and much choice. However do not rule out Davoe. Of course AC is Disneyland and will always win hands down.

Given the context I assume I am one of the persons that amaze you.

Can't argue with your opinion but if you followed this and DS thread you would see that I generally provide information and not opinions. Hard facts, with numbers and contact information. Anyone that bothers to read the ROD :s will find examples. My personal experiences are just portrayed as exactly this – my own experiences and reflections.

I only have 8 trips to Davao and some 6-7 months there in accumulated "on the spot"-time, but I go around a lot. No time wasted in the hotels, except from the hours in the bed. Every day is packed with beaches, clubs, girls, putas, parties, restaurants, work, roaming on the bike, etc. It's just the way I like it. In addition I have people very close there that lived there way longer than this board existed. I perhaps provide a different viewpoint than other more senior board members that have their way of enjoying the city. Pick the sources of info that you can relate to.

In general I think a lot of people here have not so well founded opinions about others.

I'm beginning to understand the ones that PM:ed me that they just shut the f*ck up because they got fed up with the childish level on many of the “contributions” here.
So come on and drop the ego-thing and provide some nice and juicy stories for all of us out in the cold. The Davao threads are so incredibly dull right now.

Barba

[QUOTE=Dcand4]Its amazing that some come here and offer so much insight with such little time in Philippines. [/QUOTE]

hi all

spent afew days in davao recently and wil be back for many more. i have a good local contact and even he struggles with p4p.

the plaza is there, went at 2:00 pm guard took me back as it had been a couple of days i took 2, 1 was great the other was so loose it was the only pussy i ever had i did nt know i was in and inthe phils they are amazingly tight.

no girl or girl, the loose one ineediatly began the hurry up and come wail, i can seldom cum.

the other was worth a takeaway.

sorry no names, seldom care. cost 4000 no room fee. used 3 condoms they pissed and moaned i smiled and waved.

went to 2 karoake, and ended up spending 4000 1 nihgt and 3000 the second. i think i finally understand these places as i have now done 4 and never got more than an aching hardon.

phil guys go there because they can and because there are beuatuful, subservient women, there is seldom sex it almost appears to be undersired or innapporpriatte. seems wierd, love koraake for the fun but for getting laid, hmmm.

got numbers some chats but no relief.

davao does have astreet walking strip that the mayor allows, you have got to luv this mayor. my friend warned me of **** and i never cross that line. thee are some small bars of obviuso disrepute but not great. i would love to get some semipro numbers there as i am going to spend a lot of time there.

davao is a great city thogh and i look forward to returning there.

jj

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But overnight experts would be better served by staying in Manila (or Angeles) where everything is more point and click.

Just Jim,

What is the name of this street? Or what part of town is it located?

I'm hoping to visit Davao next year.

I think if you take a look at the Davao thread on the Dragon Slayer's forum you will find, in Barba's posts and several from DS, all the information you need on the P4P places in Davao. There are lots of them, though not in the profusion you would find in Manila or, of course, Angeles. There are also lots of bars where it's supposed to be easy to pick up "regular" women, though I've been away from these scene for a while and have no first hand experience.

GE

Barba, my comment wasn't meant as a disagreement. I just found your choice of words to be interesting.

I personally would prefer to be in Davao chasing tail than in Manila, but that's mostly because I dislike Manila -- the traffic jams, etc. If we look just a p4p, then Manila wins, no doubt about it. Even Cebu is far better in that regard.

Last time I was in Davao I spent most of my time with non-p4p women. The only exception was a street girl I picked up on San Pedro St. I don't find the go-go clubs appealing in Davao.

As for regular gals, I pulled two from 183, including an employee. I spent most of my time with a gal I met at Victoria Mall on a previous visit.

X

[QUOTE=Barba]Well, from what I saw in Manila I definately think there is a lot of street action, bars of all types, massage, etc in Manila. And this is simply not the case in Davao; hence the NOT.

One could even take this one step futher and deduct that I do NOT claim to know much about Manila at all, but could already after one evening conclude that Davao is waaaaay behind Manila when it comes to P4P. So yes I know "so much", but it is still "NOT much".

What is your opinion XMan? You think Davao beats Manila when it comes to bars, clubs, street action, massage, escorts, etc? If so, I would love to read about what parts of Davao you visit.

H[/QUOTE]

Ah, sorry X Man for jumping the gun (or whatever it´s called). I'll switch to decaff. :-)
Yea, the one night and two days I have been transfering via Manila was heavy duty compared to Davao. Rip off cab drivers, big, dirty, smart, expensive (compared to Davao), etc. The list can be made long. But f*cking BEAUTIFUL girls everywhere! I was sitting on Burgos street as advice by mr GE and just chewing away at my fingers. The pizza slize I had in my hand was allready passed down, but I did not notice due to all the 100% stunners walking up and down this street. Tall, big, short, slim - all was to be found, both when it came to girls and mongers. I saw one Chinese dude, maybe in his mid 70:s, that had two tall and slim girls on his sides. Super model looks and stylish clothes. So it's a must to spend time in Manila (and Angeles) some day. But all in all I think the provincial mentality suits me better in the long run.
/Barba

[QUOTE=X Man]Barba, my comment wasn't meant as a disagreement. I just found your choice of words to be interesting.
X[/QUOTE]

Don't know the street but it is ALL streets around the central bank that have pick up girls at night.

Perhaps SHOULD agree with barba (so less guys leave Manila and Angeles to visit Davao). The problem in Davao with hookers is finding time for them given the abundance of low lying non pro fruit. There is a Durian waiting to be plucked on most every corner of Davao.

Ray: The block by the Apo View Hotel and Casa Leticia is Ground Zero for the streetwalker scene. Cannot miss it.

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]

Ray: The block by the Apo View Hotel and Casa Leticia is Ground Zero for the streetwalker scene. Cannot miss it.[/QUOTE]
In 3 months in the PI last time, I only had a pro one night in that was in Davao. Hookers just are not needed, if you put in a little effort, you will find plenty of cute 20 year old willing to pleasure you for dinner and a mango drink. (Every girl smiled big, when offered a Mango drink for some reason)

I found the hooker on accident, one taxi driver put his cell phone info in my phone, saying if I need anything. I forgot about it until one girl flaked on me, and I want some strange.

As far as SW's, I saw a group of 6 or 7 at night near Victoria Plaza mall in the parking lot. Also, some on the street behind the same mall

[quote=dcand4]don't know the street but it is all streets around the central bank that have pick up girls at night.[/quote]dcand4,

if it's not raining the girls are normally concentrated on the southern corner of tionko. if you go down torres you take a left right at davao city national high school.

if it rain they are normally right around the corner where the building provide shelter.

you will also see girls standing/roaming here and there if you cruise around the central parts of davao. more specifically the area you get if you let the streets quirino ave. , magallanes st. , c. m recto ave. and e. jacinto st form a trapezium.

at victoria there are also a few working girls. a couple where definitely doable but most often the victoria girls look quite worn down. once i was offered sex with a girl that looked like 12 at the passover at chowking. i was walking home at 4 in the morning and i replied "yea, right! ". then and older guy said "it's my sister. you can fuck her". i replied "young girl should be in bed sleeping, and you kuya should be ashamed for what you are doing right now". i'm not mr moral police of davao, just got very disturbed by this. she was all pimped up in her dirty and worn clothes.

while on the topic. i was once in mati with some mates and some girls. two "canos" (non of us americans but still canos) and four pinoys. we where hanging out at a beach, or rather a string of simple beach huts/houses aligned on a simple promenade going out in the water. very simple and relaxing place with karaoke, cold beer and food for order to your hut. this british old fart came along with 5 girls ranging from age barley teen to mid 30 mamasan. clearly poor and super low class. country side hillbilly females with home made tattoos. the fact that he was obviously banging the **** girls was enough, but he had a really crappy attitude as well and got on our nerves. some time during the afternoon the phrase "let's kick his teeth in" got stuck, and the pinoy guys where all fired up after a while. as day passed we got more and more pissed at this beach. all on red horse crappy beer. red horse, sun and karaoke. an afternoon with the ambiance similar to the river scenes in apocalypse now. the guy returned from his little perverted island trip in his all exclusively rented perv boat.

to cut a long story shorter. the perv left in a haste. half running, half stumbling. he still can chew his morning banana but i would guess he thinks twice about going to rural beaches with his 13 year old girlfriends. i still think he deserved way more than just being chased away. what maybe disturbed me the most was the fact that the pinoy guys ("friends" for a couple of years) where probing me and my buddy if we thought it was ok before they allowed themselves to openly express their rage about this behavior. like they where wondering if we maybe also would prefer children before the sexy 19 year old young women we had on our sides.

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Well, I've been here a little over 2 months so I thought I'd better give an update.

The first week or so just involved banging a couple of girls behind the Plaza Roman. Covenient for me but a little expensive. So I have been drawing on the enormous resources of the Web. Have met/f#cked 8 girls/women this method.

The majority are around the 22 year age. I think at this point in their lives they are no longer virgins, have been f#cked around by Filipinos and want to try something else. One real stunner who I've seen twice is supported by a couple of sisters abroad, and was just bored. So she took up my offer. She said that she would probably be married off soon so might as well enjoy her freedom while it lasted.

Another significant find was a 46 year old. Yes you read right, a 46 year old teacher but with a still very good and petite body. She was full on once we got to the motel but would not let me cum in her pussy or mouth - but her arse was ok. No probs haha.

Tomorrow I have a young office worker lined up. Very nice pics and I suspect she has some financial difficulties.

I also snuck out the other night to check out the Victoria Plaza street girls. About half a dozen clustered around a taxi, with no doubt a monger on the prowl. Definitely some talent. Although possibly a little too young. One young cutie offered me her cell no but I will get it next time.

I treat all my'gfs' with respect and courtesy. That's the secret. And if they say please dont cum in me its ok in my mouth or arse, I respect that. A little gift also does not go astray.

On accommodation there is plenty of short time accommodation here as already discussed by other members. I do intend trying the La Vida Inn near NCCC Mall next week. Apparently it goes the extra mile beyond the usual cable porn etc. swinging chairs maybe. I will advise once visited.

On Viagra /Cialis alternatives. Went to the little herbal store that a member kindly recommended. Got some "Impeous Man". Said to work for up to 72 hours. Did a trial with the live in gf. It works ok but I get a little indigestion from it. You get 10 capsules for 500p.

I will give it ago again tomorrow.

Finally, just thanks to all the contributors who have made my arrival here all the more enjoyable with some excellent info and advice.

Cheers

Steve

[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]Well, I've been here a little over 2 months so I thought I'd better give an update.

The first week or so just involved banging a couple of girls behind the Plaza Roman. Covenient for me but a little expensive. So I have been drawing on the enormous resources of the Web. Have met/f#cked 8 girls/women this method.

The majority are around the 22 year age. I think at this point in their lives they are no longer virgins, have been f#cked around by Filipinos and want to try something else. One real stunner who I've seen twice is supported by a couple of sisters abroad, and was just bored. So she took up my offer. She said that she would probably be married off soon so might as well enjoy her freedom while it lasted.

Another significant find was a 46 year old. Yes you read right, a 46 year old teacher but with a still very good and petite body. She was full on once we got to the motel but would not let me cum in her pussy or mouth - but her arse was ok. No probs haha.

Tomorrow I have a young office worker lined up. Very nice pics and I suspect she has some financial difficulties.

I also snuck out the other night to check out the Victoria Plaza street girls. About half a dozen clustered around a taxi, with no doubt a monger on the prowl. Definitely some talent. Although possibly a little too young. One young cutie offered me her cell no but I will get it next time.

I treat all my'gfs' with respect and courtesy. That's the secret. And if they say please dont cum in me its ok in my mouth or arse, I respect that. A little gift also does not go astray.

On accommodation there is plenty of short time accommodation here as already discussed by other members. I do intend trying the La Vida Inn near NCCC Mall next week. Apparently it goes the extra mile beyond the usual cable porn etc. swinging chairs maybe. I will advise once visited.

On Viagra /Cialis alternatives. Went to the little herbal store that a member kindly recommended. Got some "Impeous Man". Said to work for up to 72 hours. Did a trial with the live in gf. It works ok but I get a little indigestion from it. You get 10 capsules for 500p.

I will give it ago again tomorrow.

Finally, just thanks to all the contributors who have made my arrival here all the more enjoyable with some excellent info and advice.

Cheers

Steve[/QUOTE]You have raised the bar with your report. Well done. Your distinctive reports are welcomed here anytime.

Now that I have been in Davao for a while, meeting and fucking nice women is proving to be very easy.

So I think that I will have to set myself a few challenges. I rather like fucking pregnant women. Not the ones on the verge of popping, but up to about 6 months. How does one do this here without getting some vengeful bf or hubby after you.

Any thought/suggestions on how this can be achieved here?

Steve

[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone] ........................................I rather like fucking pregnant women. Not the ones on the verge of popping, but up to about 6 months. How does one do this here without getting some vengeful bf or hubby after you.

Any thought/suggestions on how this can be achieved here?

Steve[/QUOTE]Barba, Deviate Extraordinaire, is your man for this one.

Think he raised this topic before and I responded. Worth checking his previous posts, easily done by clicking his Avatar etc, and then you will see his comments on this subject and my response same time etc.

He might have learnt more on this subject since then and will pop in and have his say too.

These prego posts and the like are the life and blood of any thread, lol. Keep up the good work.

Your private message service is blocked. Discrete info can be passed onto you that way. Not that I have any though. But I have heard Davao is prego central, lol.

Get together with Barba , when he is in town , at his favourite Sports Bar for a drink. He has become the most informed, when it comes to actually having sex in Davao. Some others like me , are merely commentators.

Hi,

In fact I only had sex with one pregnant girl in Davao. She is an ex working girl I just kept in touch with. Despite her being 7 months and getting ready to pop she got super horny and wet after a few minutes play (see especially the last pic called preggo3.jpg - yes it is her fluids). I paid her 1700 peso for a night.

Also asked a couple of mamasans on C Bank in different occasions and they told me both that preggo girls can be arranged if they get some hours notice. Happy hunting and please take some pictures.

B

Anya Belle from Davao City.

Don't worry, won't tell on you guys. But I'm not selling anything here either I have just been a long time lurker who decided to finally register and join you guys. Let a girl have some fun as well

And if you have any questions about the place, just feel free to ask. I'm a local, in case you're wondering

Mwah!

Are you pregnant?

Haha.

Steve

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Anya Belle from Davao City.

Don't worry, won't tell on you guys. But I'm not selling anything here either I have just been a long time lurker who decided to finally register and join you guys. Let a girl have some fun as well

And if you have any questions about the place, just feel free to ask. I'm a local, in case you're wondering

Mwah![/QUOTE]Hi Anya,

Firstly to Gamahucher. Had to re write my original post , it was a bit heavy and unwelcoming. I saw your post above , just as I was to post my revised one as follows.

Welcome aboard Anya. Even though I think you might be of the gender bender variety , it will be interesting to hear a locals view on the Davao sex scene. What have you got to offer ? Thanks in advance.

And if you do send in a photo , please make sure its a pic of you , thanks. But photo is not essential , as we do not post our pics on this forum either. Just give us info on Davao City , all the things you know that we dont know. You've been lurking for some time you say , so lets in on the kind of world we do not have access to , locals to locals hetero sex scene. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx]


Everything about you says bayut, which means ladyboy for the uninitiated.

[/QUOTE]

Fuck me backwards Sxxxx, you must be a psychic if you can tell she's a he from a few simple words.

Anya - how about a real photo (preferably full length and bold for Sxxxx ;)) to set the picture straight. G

Actually, the word "bayot" means gay; not necessarily a lady boy, and I'm curious how anyone could possibly divine Anya's gender preference from her posts. It's an amazing talent really.

Barba never ceases to amaze. Having met him a couple of times, I know that he's a cultured, well educated guy, yet he seems to be able to pull in women from all over the spectrum here in Davao.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough] .................... Barba never ceases to amaze. Having met him a couple of times, I know that he's a cultured, well educated guy, yet he seems to be able to pull in women from all over the spectrum here in Davao.

GE[/QUOTE]
""Yet he seems to be able to ............."

Does that mean that a cultured well educated guy is not supposed to be able to ?
pull in women from all over the spectrum in Davao , lol.

Christmas Cheers

And on a final note , Merry Christmas to ya'll. I envy those of you , with your fine wines and all that. But please take care , and be wary of bayuts , prego women , and last but not least the xmas carollers , especially the ones with the very dark sunglasses.

I have my preferred GF: s (plural thank god) in Davao that are sweet. Sometimes but not always so smart in that well educated western way. But who need that all over again? 50% of the well educated persons I meet have serious issues with their self esteem and need to pretend 80% of their awake time. This preggo girl (not "GF") is a simple young survivor from south of Mindano. Ran away from home due to a harsh father. I met her the second or third month she worked C Bank. Not super pretty and not so often selected. You can see the doubt in their eyes when they know that they are not even amongst top eight on the corner. The only thing I however could see that night with my San Mig googles was her big tits, so I picked her, paid 1000 peso and fucked her. She turned out to be the sweetest girl. Very moderate and "un-ruined" by the harsh street life. We went to simple local beaches and just played around for days. I visited her barrio like boarding house where she, like her "sisters", rented a shit hole from her mamasan. Then one day she just vanished.

Not a word for months until just days before a departure to Davao.

"Hi hun. Sorry for not keeping in touch. My bf made me pregnant (not Barba) and I am going back home to my family. Just wanted to say bye before I go".

"Hold your horses baby, I land in Davao in 48 hours. Let us meet one last time so I can get a chance to juggle those swollen knockers".

Said and done. It was a great experience. My first of this kind, but not my last (as it proved). I know that we are all a bit reluctant to disclose our weird fetishes on this board (for some reason), but preggo girls with big swollen tits just ARE sexy. Milk them baby!

Anyone following the Barba escapades knows I since moved on to skinny girls. Slim, preferably short and max 40 kilos is the new fixation. Oh lord, where will this end? Like one of those British nut cases that sits in a crib with a baby hat and a fake tit Russian 1000$ domina that abuse him?

I was about to write that I am just a simple guy with an infinite curiosity, as a reply to your post GE. Sounds good but the truth is probably that I am a border line sex addict with a fat wallet and to much spare time. :.D

Best from Barba the beast!

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First and foremost, LOL @ Steve. I knew somebody was gonna ask me that, hehe. And no Sir, I am not. As a matter of fact, I'm in that time of the month. Regarding La Vida Inn by the way, just your simple room really. What I like about that place is that it has a functional Hot-and-Cold shower and Cable Porn... Well... They really don't have a swinging chair. What they have instead is a chair (probably custom-made for them) which resembles a contraption. It makes anyone place themselves in different interesting positions and of course, more importantly, make the girls go spread-eagle, hehe.

I just realized you cannot do smileys here. Bummer. I'm a cheery kind of girl who uses smileys frequently. Anyway, there's always the first time *grin*

To Sxxxx, good thing you decided to make it sound a little more subtle, you must have had encountered the type. Anyway, I have been reading not so frequently but more like every now and then. By the looks of it though, all of you guys know the places to go. I was going to shout off some places, but all of them are mentioned anyway so I guess we just have Lanang and Sasa to tackle. Although it's really really really far from the downtown area so I'm not sure if I should recommend you guys going there.

Hello Gamahucher, thanks. Regarding the pictures... Hmmm... I'm not really keen on posting up bold pictures for EVERYONE to see. Anyway, Davao is a small place. I mean, a small-world place. So if one sees me, they'll probably know I'm a girl right away *smile*

Hello GoodEnough, thanks too. And yes, Davao women like cultured, well-educated guys *smile*

Bob mentioned mango juices... I don't know. Something about them being the most missed out item in the menu but being the most delicious juice of them all anyway. But that's just me. These women probably know some properties of mangoes that I don't, hehe.

Anyway, I'm actually quite tall here for the city as I'm 5'8". Some locals actually do question my gender, most especially when I'm donning high heels, short skirts and sleeveless shirts. I can do the description routine here but I can pass by anywhere and let myself be known anyway. I'm friendly like that *wink*

There's probably nothing "borderline" about any of us on this board. I think we're all way, way over the border, but the weather is fine on this side and it's all good.

Barba, the next time you're in town give me a shout and we can go down some wine at Henny's or Claude's or wherever. Anya, if you're ever passing by De Bonte Koe and you see a guy with an enormous, black Great Dane, come on over and say hello and have a drink with us. My lady and I are usually there on Saturday nights.

GE

[QUOTE=Barba] Like one of those British nut cases that sits in a crib with a baby hat and a fake tit Russian 1000$ domina that abuse him?

[/QUOTE]

Goodness, gracious me! - how did you guess? :D

'Fraid I cannot get my head round the preggo thing - about 10 minutes after insemination they hold about as much interest to me as a beached whale. Have tried it though (not the beached whale - yet - and don't count the wives), as I have tried mostly everything but find that I much prefer my milk out of a bottle (milk bottle that is ;)).

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]There's probably nothing "borderline" about any of us on this board. I think we're all way, way over the border, but the weather is fine on this side and it's all good.

Anya, if you're ever passing by De Bonte Koe and you see a guy with an enormous, black Great Dane, come on over and say Hello, and have a drink with us. My lady and I are usually there on Saturday nights.

GE[/QUOTE]Hehe, GE's right. I think I've read something over the border here than the preggo thingie, so there there now, hehe.

Oh GE, I think I've seen that Great Dane before! Sure, hope to pass by there by Saturday. I will let you know that it's me of course =)

Hmmm. Do you guys frequent Torres St. By the way?

Hi again Anya.

You sound like a good sport.

Ok. Got a few questions for you:

I've probably mentioned earlier, I'm only available for day time fun. Any other suggestions where I might er. Indulge myself?

And, just out of curiousity, how do you get your fun here? Do you have a foreigner fetish or are the local lads more to your liking?

Steve

Hahaha!!! Times two.

GE, I guess you are right. The border was passed years ago. I am in good company here.

I'd love to meet you dog GE, so I'll buzz you in about 2-3 months when I am back in town.

Gamahucher, I have to agree. Looks way more sexy than it taste (at least wifeys). [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/url]
Besides I read HIV is transmitted through mothers milk. The transformation to skinny girls fixation was a necessary evolutionary step. Survival instinct.

Anya Belle, do you by any chance weigh less than 40 kilos? [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/url]

B

Torres Street

Ive been going a couple of nights a week recently. Seems to have a lot of potential. Good live music.

Is it a hang out of yours Anya?

Steve

Thank you Steve =) Hmmm... You mean day time indulgement? I'm really not so sure... It used to be years past that malls (SM Mall particularly) became a haven for early morning fun. But that was a long time ago. I'm not so sure now. So, sorry Steve, cannot give you a sure answer there.

Foreign or local? Well, it's more of the local lads really. Although... thanks to Facebook, I'm beginning to be curious with foreign lads too, hehe.

As for Torres, yes, a frequent hang out of mine almost every weekend. The best beer could be found in Bakbak as it is ICE COLD San Miguel Beer. My gal friend and I hang out there when we have to talk off our woes about men, hehehe. I think there are gals there who are searching too. Some of them in Jickongs. Usually they would ask assistance from the Peanut boys (boys who sell peanuts), serving as messengers for the gals. But anyway, it's really teeming with people.

Haha, sorry Barba, I weigh 10 kilos more than that :D Skinny for my height though, but not petite, like your type.

Happy weekend guys

Thanks for the feedback Anya.

Yes Torres Street definitely has a lot of women -many obviously looking...

If you ever want to catch up for a San Mig lite let me know. But unfortunately I'm restricted to daylight hours only haha.

Anyway, you have a good weekend too.....

Steve

[quote=anya belle]anya belle from davao city.

don't worry, won't tell on you guys. but i'm not selling anything here either i have just been a long time lurker who decided to finally register and join you guys. let a girl have some fun as well

and if you have any questions about the place, just feel free to ask. i'm a local, in case you're wondering

mwah![/quote]

hello anya belle!

welcome to the board! i've never been physically in davao. but thanks to the likes of ge, barba, gamahucher, and dragon slayer (in his own little board area), i am definitely planning to visit someday. i'm sure that having a member of the fairer sex join the previously "all men" club is going to take a little getting used to. on the other hand (i hate switching in mid-stroke ;) ) i think you can offer all of us a point of view on our hobby that we might not think about. i look forward to reading your posts, and possibly meeting you and the other davao members for a good beer and some pointers. i hope you enjoy the board as much as the rest of us do.

hw

p.s. sorry i'm so late in posting my welcome speech! :d

What a surprise, getting new posters to the Davao thread:

I'm so happy, I pissed my pants.

Anya, Gamahucher, Hairy Wonder

Welcome, welcome....great to have you here.

X

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]I just realized you cannot do smileys here. Bummer. I'm a cheery kind of girl who uses smileys frequently.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/misc.php?do=showsmilies[/url]
This link will take you to the page with smiley instructions :)

Hello again Steve. I didn't know they were many women who were obviously looking, hehe. Oh, that's too bad you're restricted to going out just day time. Well, I don't drink bring beer during daylight hours. Coffee, I do Let me know. As a matter of fact, I'll be working with my laptop at Cafe Firenzo today. In case you get bored today, you can just drop by and have a conversation. But it's a Saturday. I really doubt your gf and you don't have plans of going out: D

Thanks for the welcome X Man

And John, thank you very much for putting that up. Was just wondering because even if I did the smileys for the first post, they were gone when it got approved. Anyway, hope the smileys will show up here this time

Hmmm. I just had my first 3some last night: D and the 2nd guy was kind of oozing pre-cum as he probably got excited and all since it has been a long time for him. I wanted this 2nd guy to wear a condom prior but things got all heated up (and I forgot to purchase a condom for anyone in the room). I just had my mense but I'm irregular so I was wondering just in case (cause I really do not know this one), do you guys know where I can find and buy a "morning after" pill?

Thanks much. I'd rather have it now than have something else so much later. Unless, someone can ease me that I don't need the pill, hehe.

[QUOTE=John Dough][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/misc.php?do=showsmilies[/url]
This link will take you to the page with smiley instructions :)[/QUOTE]

Damn! :mad:

JD beat me to it, and robbed me of a chance to earn some brownie points with Anya Belle! :p

I was going to post the same thing. But JD was a little faster on the draw than me. Thanks JD! Enjoy Anya Belle! Unfortunately, it seems that only the limited set listed on the ISG page will work here. :(

Happy Mongering! :cool:
HW

I noticed on google maps that davao resorts are located on samal island. There doesn't appear to be any bridges. Unlike cebu and mactan.

So my question is simple, as it seems boat stops at 5PM does it mean that after this time there is no way go to to davao and return to the island?

So if you want to be in the night life does it mean you must take an hotel room on the mainland in davao city downtown?

Thanks for the tip to help me prepare my davao trip next week.

The short answer is yes.

From Paradise, I've rode back to Davao with the outgoing staff as late as 5:40. And I imagine you could always hire a boat at anytime.

I don't remember exactly, but it's less than 90 minutes from Paradise pier to downtown. You could do a lot worse.

X

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]I noticed on google maps that davao resorts are located on samal island. There doesn't appear to be any bridges. Unlike cebu and mactan.

So my question is simple, as it seems boat stops at 5PM does it mean that after this time there is no way go to to davao and return to the island?

So if you want to be in the night life does it mean you must take an hotel room on the mainland in davao city downtown?

Thanks for the tip to help me prepare my davao trip next week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Escort Fan] So my question is simple, as it seems boat stops at 5PM does it mean that after this time there is no way go to to davao and return to the island? [/QUOTE]Hi.

The bridge will not be ready for some years yet.

As I mentioned in previous posts the Sasa-Babak ferry runs until 11 pm.

Babak is on the nortwest of Samal. You can either bring your own car/bike, walk or take a bus that can carry you all the way down past Pinya Plata to Kaputian. There are many resorts along the way. Chemaz also have a boat but it stops right about when Paradise stop they service.

Bali Bali is quite a cosy resort on the side facing Davao.

To rent your own boat cost 1000-1500 a day but most often the "captain" will not bring you back to Davao after dark. I belive there is a restriciton for the bankas, but the Babak-ferrys can run also after dark. Best to rent a boat is from St Anna warf, where also the ferries to Talicud and Kaputan departure (at 10 and 11 am).

Day after pills can be aquired in several larger drug stores. I have seen them several times but do not remeber the name of the store. One big out towards Lanang (Mercury?) had them.

/Barba

Hello Guys,

There are tree ferrys. One for cars and a another one for people (one public and one only for the guests in pearl farm). The public one starts in the near of waterfront hotel (right side of the main street, 200 meters after the hotel.) Its cost 50 Peso per person. (summer this year) But the ferry ends in the resort which you can see from the davao side. There is a hotel too, I think the room cost 5000 Peso per night. In my opinion the best way is take a taxi, go with the car ferry to samal and explore the island. There are some roads, I think there are many resorts on the other side of the island. Of course they are cheaper and not so crowded. I will be in februray in davao and will check it there again. So take care there, and good hunting!

Anle

In June I went to Paradise Island Resort 2 times with different girls. The cost was very cheap. around 28 peso to take the boat across from Davao to the resort. Entrance fee was 100 peso each for all day.

The girls loved the place. I asked about room rates and they were around 40 USD.

Even the food and gift shop were cheap. I paid less than I would at a USA Mcdonalds for a hamburger/fries/and coke.
I forgot my swimming shorts and paid around 300 peso in the gift shop for a new one.

The car ferry is fairly far north on Lanang, and the cost of transporting a car with passengers is Php270. I did it just last week. Driving around the interior of the island, which is larger than Singapore, can be interesting, as the interior villages don't see many foreigners, and you will receive a very warm welcome. I have no idea how late the Ferry runs, but I know it starts early, as I was there at 8 AM and there was a boat waiting to fill. The ferries are not large and can accommodate only 7-8 cars, but the ride is less than 10 minutes and they depart frequently.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I have no idea how late the Ferry runs[/QUOTE]This is the one that stops at 11 pm, that I mentioned below.

A bike cost 60 peso. Normally we are two on my bike. No extra charge.

B

This thread needs a little bit cheering up!

Have a banging holidays everyone! Mwah!

Thanks Anya Belle! How do you plan to spend new years eve? Doggy style?:-)

Merry x-mas and a happy new year all you mongers!

Cheers Barba.

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]This thread needs a little bit cheering up!

Have a banging holidays everyone! Mwah![/QUOTE]

Will be arriving in Davao Friday the 3rd. Only staying a few days as I'm off to Cebu to get married in the grand Cathedral. The fiance will probably meet me there in Davao 1st day(too bad, would like to get some practice in). A couple questions...

I'd like to drop a few pounds before the wedding. Where's a good gym in the city?

Will buy my suit there. Any quality tailors and could you give me a rough estimate of prices. thanks.

TC.

Atbarba: Hmmm. Let's see and find out. Heehee: D

AtGE: Sorry if I haven't passed by DBK yet. But I really will okay? Hope to see you, your lady friend and your Great Dane soon

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]I'd like to drop a few pounds before the wedding. Where's a good gym in the city?

Will buy my suit there. Any quality tailors and could you give me a rough estimate of prices. thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Metro Lifestyle Fitness Center, @ Jacinto Extension & Torres. Not bad.
I can't help you about the tailor.

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Will be arriving in Davao Friday the 3rd. Only staying a few days as I'm off to Cebu to get married in the grand Cathedral. The fiance will probably meet me there in Davao 1st day(too bad, would like to get some practice in). A couple questions...

I'd like to drop a few pounds before the wedding. Where's a good gym in the city?

Will buy my suit there. Any quality tailors and could you give me a rough estimate of prices. thanks.

TC.[/QUOTE]
The best tailor in town, by far is Chardin, located on the street beside the Apo View Hotel. The work is excellent and the selection of fabrics quite broad. I had a wool/silk blend suit made for me there last year, and it would easily have cost me $1,500-$2000 in the States. I think I paid about $200. I have all of my shirts and slacks made there and have for years. They do a terrific job.

GE

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Atbarba: Hmmm. Let's see and find out. Heehee: D
[/QUOTE]What an offer! I would pick you up on it if I wasn't 10+ hours away with my private yet.

I am sure someone else here will treat you like the gentleman he (you?) are. ;-)

I am out of tuch for some days so happy new year you all!

Cheers!

Barba

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Atbarba: Hmmm. Let's see and find out. Heehee: D

AtGE: Sorry if I haven't passed by DBK yet. But I really will okay? Hope to see you, your lady friend and your Great Dane soon[/QUOTE]
You know, we were there last week end, Great Dane and all, and I was wondering if you would come by. Probably won't be there this week end, but will be there next week end for sure, and I'll still look forward to meeting you.

Anya I'm adding to this post because it just occurred to me that the famous Dragon Slayer--who is also a good friend of mine--will be here in a couple of days and you might enjoy meeting him as well. I would have sent you a PM, but I don't think I can so I chose this rather public forum instead. We'll try to be at DBK on Wednesday night if you're interested.

GE

Happy New Year to all Davao City mongers!

Maybe some of us can catch up one day soon for a chat , drink etc.

There is more to life than bonking you know . Nahh who am I kidding haha.

Anyway, good health and luck to all

Steve

Attungsten Chef. Actually, Holiday Gym and Spa at Torres St. Is better. Less gossip-mongers, hehe. Aside from that, better equipment and trainers really do attend to their clients.

AtBarba. Aawwww.thanks Happy New Year to you!

AtGE. Hmm. Are you talking about New Year's Eve? Hmm. Can I post up my email address here? I hope I can PM you right after I send this post. Anyway, it would really be lovely to meet DragonSlayer.

To everyone, Happy New Year!

[QUOTE=Barba]Viagra and Cialis can be bought in for example the drug store in Victoria. No prescription required. But they are expensive. Often more than 500 a pill when I asked around during my last trip to Davao a couple of months ago. Maybe you should try some alternatives.

I posted some info on this here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=780874&postcount=660[/url]

Barba[/QUOTE]Victoria mall? Is this still in effect? / no prescription? Wheres this place?

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Attungsten Chef. Actually, Holiday Gym and Spa at Torres St. Is better. Less gossip-mongers, hehe. Aside from that, better equipment and trainers really do attend to their clients.

AtBarba. Aawwww.thanks Happy New Year to you!

AtGE. Hmm. Are you talking about New Year's Eve? Hmm. Can I post up my email address here? I hope I can PM you right after I send this post. Anyway, it would really be lovely to meet DragonSlayer.

To everyone, Happy New Year![/QUOTE]Hi Anya. Actually you could have come for New Years. We had a nice party last night and, as usual, DS brought some outstanding Champagne. I think we finished around 3:30 in the morning. I just tried to send you a PM but could not do so and Jackson does not allow the posting of email addresses on the forum, so I'm not sure how to get this done.

If you want to upgrade your membership so that you can send PMs, please send me one and we'll figure this out.

GE

Ge! I really should've went after midnight, after I came from my dad's place. Problem was, I was with my sister and kinda strict mom, and the places we've passed by we're kinda quiet (the Torres stretch was so dark and all the establishments were closed). If we passed by Autoshop (it was open), I would've had changed my mind and made myself more assertive in joining you guys.

Sigh. 'Tis explaining to myself too, hehe. But I was really itching to celebrate outside the house. Oh well. Again, I should've known.

How long will DS be staying here, GE? And you will be around this coming Saturday right?

By the way, I also can't send you PMs. I tried, hehe. Don't worry, we will meet. By then we will be able to figure something out.

No prescriptions.

As mentioned in that post - second floor of V-mall. Walk AWAY from Rockys barber shop. Walk on the left side. Look for two small boots on your right, opposite a women's clothes store. One selling cheap jewellery and the other one herbal medicine.

Cialis and Viagra can be bought at the drug store in V-mall on first floor. Right when you enter the northern gate there is one. They never asked me for a prescription.
You can also buy them without prescription at the drug store close to Gaisano South mall (note the difference from Gasiano).

B

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Victoria mall? Is this still in effect? / no prescription? Wheres this place?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Ge! I really should've went after midnight, after I came from my dad's place. Problem was, I was with my sister and kinda strict mom, and the places we've passed by we're kinda quiet (the Torres stretch was so dark and all the establishments were closed). If we passed by Autoshop (it was open), I would've had changed my mind and made myself more assertive in joining you guys.

Sigh. 'Tis explaining to myself too, hehe. But I was really itching to celebrate outside the house. Oh well. Again, I should've known.

How long will DS be staying here, GE? And you will be around this coming Saturday right?

By the way, I also can't send you PMs. I tried, hehe. Don't worry, we will meet. By then we will be able to figure something out.[/QUOTE]
Anya, I think the reason that we cannot send each other PMs is that you're not a senior member. If you upgrade your membership the problem would probably disappear.

Tomorrow night (Saturday) we will be at the Blue Room in the Apo View, and I will try to bring DS along. I'm not sure how long he will stay, but certainly for another few days. I would give you my cell phone number but that would be way too public for me and in any case I do not think that it's permitted. DBK by the way, is closed till about the 7th when Henny gets back from Europe so we cannot go there. Also, I would have been delighted to invite you to the New Years Eve get together we had at the house but again, I had no way of contacting you.

I hope things start to pick up here this week end because for the past few days the town has been like a morgue.

GE

Hehe, really didn't want to mention it but I cannot purchase a subscription for now. Booo for companies without Christmas bonuses for outsourced personnel, lol. Anyway, it's okay, we will meet, okay? =) No need for the subscription for now =)

Oh, that's cool! I'll drop by Blue Room tomorrow (Saturday) then. It's a good thing you mentioned about DBK being closed. I am going out tonight (Friday) and was deciding to drop by DBK later, in case you guys are there.

It's alright. Too bad though, but maybe next time :)

Tell me about it! Has been such a ghost town the past few days! Anyway, was happy I had my reunions with friends, but I do understand what you mean =)

See you and DS tomorrow Saturday!!!

he he... wonder if it will be another noshow of "ms" Anya Belle, or "X" or whoever is holding the pen of the "ms". :D

Curious me of the outcome

At Marconista: I guess it happened before huh? Don't worry, I'm the kind of person who loves to meet new people so I wouldn't let this chance pass up. I just really hope nothing will stand in my way this time.

Tonight my lady and I had the pleasure of meeting Anya, and let me assure all of you that she's very much a lady, and a delightful person, and I'm glad we met her and I'm sure we'll see her again as she's terrific company. We had a great time at the Blue Room at the Apo View, together with some other friends who joined us. Please do not PM me for her personal details.

GE

Intriguing.

Anya, I believe someone soon will utilize Jackson sponsorship program and get you a membership here on ISG. ;-)

Please enlighten us, how did you find this website?

Curious Barba

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Tonight my lady and I had the pleasure of meeting Anya, and let me assure all of you that she's very much a lady, and a delightful person, and I'm glad we met her and I'm sure we'll see her again as she's terrific company. We had a great time at the Blue Room at the Apo View, together with some other friends who joined us. Please do not PM me for her personal details.

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Anya Belle]Hehe, really didn't want to mention it but I cannot purchase a subscription for now. Booo for companies without Christmas bonuses for outsourced personnel, lol. Anyway, it's okay, we will meet, okay? =) No need for the subscription for now =)[/QUOTE]

Anya Belle,

You don't have to pay for the subscription to become a Senior Member. You should see instructions on your screen somewhere (or a link to them) that tells you how to request to be a senior member. If I recall correctly, it basically amounts to simply sending an e-mail to Jackson asking for it. The paid subscription gets you even more benefits on here.

Enjoy!
HW

Ge,

Thank you very much for the kind words! Your lady was very beautiful, bubbly and such a treat to talk to. You're great company too. Looking forward to catching you all again over a couple of drinks and good music. Probably a little less of the volume though, hehe.

Thank you HW. I actually checked that and it had something to do with contributing to the forum. In my stance, I'm not so sure if I can contribute anything Finally seeing GE, I think that's a better avenue now to know people in this forum. But thanks! And hey! Hope to see you soon too, just the way I did with GE.

First post in the Davao thread not much to put out. Meeting a chat friend who recommended the Marco Polo as I told her Warbucks does nothing less than a four star. She is a religious nut but I am trying to see how far this going to go.

Hope to catch GE or anybody esle around town. Early Feb

I will also be in Davao for the first time in February. I am planning a trip from Feb. 12 - 22 to the Philippines. I'm not sure which dates I will actually be in Davao. But I know I won't have a chance to check out any mongering possibilities, as I will be there with my girl from Manila. She told me she wants us to visit her cousin in Davao. Said she is married to an American that lives and works there. I wonder if he is one of the ISG brothers. :D

Since I don't have the good fortune to have as much expendable cash as DW ;) , and both my girl and I tend to be koripot :o , I will be looking for a decent, yet inexpensive, hotel room for a couple of nights. The last time I was in Manila, my girl would not agree to stay in a room, unless the price was below P2500. My only problem with that, is I know the cheaper the room rate is, the worse the bed is. I already have back problems, and a bad bed only makes it hurt more.

If any of the Davao regulars have any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Happy Mongering!
HW

If the budget is 2500 or below you can for example stay at Apo as a diamond club member (arranged at the hotel in minutes) or Grand Meng Seng (tel 0822219040). There is also smaller Casa Leticia or Las Casitas. And another 100+ options.

Regency In is also have acceptable beds if you wish to be closer to SM and Gaisano Mall. Express that you want a room WITH windows.

Of the cheaper ones I recommend Bagobo House but the beds I tried where not that great.

For 2500 you are actually within the range of most hotels in Davao.

For a few nights I would recommend Apo. [url]www.apoview.com[/url]
You can book the Diamond Club with Frances on +639193515510.

Get the "new wing" since it is fresher and not surprisingly newer than the old part.
You will be close to the Peoples Park and Rizal where many go for a drink or to dance and party. Apo is a standard big hotel with all its pros and cons. Wifi in the café and outdoor area. The wifi also spills over to some of the old rooms on level 3 in the old wing. Not very stable connection though in the rooms.
/Barba

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]The last time I was in Manila, my girl would not agree to stay in a room, unless the price was below P2500. HW[/QUOTE]

HW, there are several options from which to choose. You could try Galleria Hotel just off Quirino St., which has a small pool, is very clean, and has rooms for about Php1,500. You could also try Las Casitas on Rizal St. which is newer but has no pool. If you're really strapped for cash try the brand new wing of the Sampagita Inn on Quirino, right next to Davao Doctor's Hospital. You can get rooms there starting at about Php800. Casa Leticia, on Camus St. also has rooms under the Php2,500 limit. There's also the Seycher Hotel on Bajada, which is a budget place with rooms under Php1,000 and Villa Margarita, also on Bajada, with rooms (I think) at may Php1,200-Php1,500. There's also the small, but very nice Habana Hotel in the Habana compound on Rizal St. which is right in front of Henny's De Bonte Koe restaurant. These are just for starters. There are lots of others.

If you want any more specific information feel free to send me a PM.

GE

[QUOTE=Hairy Wonder]Since I don't have the good fortune to have as much expendable cash as DW ;) , and both my girl and I tend to be koripot :o ,
If any of the Davao regulars have any suggestions, I would really appreciate it.

Happy Mongering!
HW[/QUOTE]

I am stingy too but not when it comes to my own clothes, jewelry and most important lodging in a third world country. You can read a few posts back about guy in the Subic thread who slummed it in Subic and found out the hard way why this is not a good idea to do this in a third world country.

Own experience: coming back from Boracay before I bought my house last Jan I tried to save a few pesos and booked a room at well known monger hotel (Oxford Suites) in Makati. It was right on Burgos Street which in my ignorance at that time didn’t know the place was a red light district.

The first room smelled like smoke I don’t smoke. They moved me into another room then later told me I had to move again as someone had booked that room. About now I am more than pissed as I have been travelling all day by land, sea and air to get back to Manila from Boracay. Last straw: I saw a cock roach while carrying out my morning business in the bathroom. Right after that I packed my shit and checked into the Renaissance and to this day it remains my favorite hotel in the Manila area.

Well, it was probably too good to last.

I guess my discrete mongering was too much for the gf. it could also be that Filipinas are just naturally suspicious. And I have been guilty.

So.. next week I shall move to a hotel for a few days to try and avoid the inevitable fallout/fight and review my options. I am truly foolish being a monger of more than 20 years, I should have known better.

I will probably catch up with a few of the nice ladies I have met and maybe, do a final run to Angeles before heading home for a while.

Davao is a nice city but I guess I have soiled my nest...and it's time to go.

So to all who live here ...take care and be carefull...haha.


cheers

Too bad Steve, but I guess you've just taught us all again not to play in our own zip codes. We'll be at Henny's place for dinner tonight if you want to stop by for a beer.

GE

Barba, DW & GE,

Thanks to all of you for the hotel advice! And no offense intended DW. If you got the "Warbucks," why not use them? I'm just not that financially secure right now (spent to much on mongering in Korea the last few years). I need to save for a while, or get a high paying job.

It seems that I am no longer in the planning part of this trip. She has told me that her cousin (the one married to an American living in Davao) will arrange our hotel for us, and play driver to take us to anyplace we want while we are there. I'm sure I won't be able to monger any while I'm there. This will be a good way to recon the area for possible future mongering activity.

It would be great to meet up with some ISG brothers while I am there (and the cousins husband may be one of you :confused: ), but I don't think she will let me out of her sites. She knows that there are many temptations in the PI, and I am one that gives in easily to temptation. :D If I do come across your path (you might recognize the badly dressed, sweaty, fat guy with the smoking hot young Filipina...but that could be any ISGer :p ) please just say "Hi!" "Welcome to Davao!" or something similar. We really should develop a ISG secret handshake or something to identify ourselves to each other.

I'm still not sure of the exact dates I will be in Davao. I have my ticket for the round trip from 12 to 22 Feb. And I know that she plans to tie me down to the bed for the first night, at least. :eek: I'll try to find the exact dates as I get closer to my flight date.

Happy Mongering!
HW

Hi,

I'm new here but made contact with a LOT of lovely ladies in Mindanao. Could those familar with Mindanao tell me what its like? Is a good bet to check out some of these ladies. Are they more conservative there? All comments would be appreciated. I just arrived in the PI.

Yea, much more conservative. All of them, without any exceptions.

Seriously... read the RODs and you will know all there is to it.

Remember parts of Mindanao is a war zone right now.

B

[QUOTE=Spinmaster]Hi,

I'm new here but made contact with a LOT of lovely ladies in Mindanao. Could those familar with Mindanao tell me what its like? Is a good bet to check out some of these ladies. Are they more conservative there? All comments would be appreciated. I just arrived in the PI.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spinmaster]Hi,

I'm new here but made contact with a LOT of lovely ladies in Mindanao. Could those familar with Mindanao tell me what its like? Is a good bet to check out some of these ladies. Are they more conservative there? All comments would be appreciated. I just arrived in the PI.[/QUOTE]Not much different than any other part of the Philippines. But be aware of the muslim extremist in the southern part of the Island. Was advised to draw a line from Cagayn D'oro to Davao, and do not go south of that line. Zambo is safe, and the women there really intrigue me with their looks. You might hear all kinds of rumors about Mindanao, but I have been there many times and have always felt safe in CDO, and Davao. Only thing I know of the conservative bit. Is that the women want their men circumcised. So if you are not then them might mention this fact why you are not. I had a couple of girls ask me. A prostitute will never bring this up. Have fun!

[QUOTE=Sick Boy3]Not much different than any other part of the Philippines. But be aware of the muslim extremist in the southern part of the Island. Was advised to draw a line from Cagayn D'oro to Davao, and do not go south of that line. Zambo is safe, and the women there really intrigue me with their looks. You might hear all kinds of rumors about Mindanao, but I have been there many times and have always felt safe in CDO, and Davao. Only thing I know of the conservative bit. Is that the women want their men circumcised. So if you are not then them might mention this fact why you are not. I had a couple of girls ask me. A prostitute will never bring this up. Have fun![/QUOTE]

This is pretty good advice I think. The real point is though that there's no place south of CDO that would attract foreigners in any case. I'll be in Marawi--where I've been many times before--next week, and I'll be passing through Iligan as well. Let me assure you that unless you have to go there, as I do, there's not reason to want to go there. As to Basilan, and Sulu, where you should not go under any circumstances, the same applies. Even if there was no danger in Jolo, Lamitan or Isabela, there's no reason at all to go. Tawi-Tawi (Bongao City) is totally safe but totally boring, with no foreigner-in-mind accommodations and again, no reason to go.

The only places that would interest most of the guys who read this board are Davao, CDO, Zamboanga and, perhaps, General Santos City, all of them safe. As I think I've said before, the drive from Davao to CDO is beautiful, passing through various micro-climates and types of scenery, and well worth taking if you have the time.

GE

I have not ben around much compared to the veterans on this board, but there are a couple of (secret) pearls for the adventurous one, also in the south. It is just so darn unpredictable when it comes to safety.

I see at least two reasons not to mention the places here.

Let's just say I hope Phil and Mindanao never becomes the next Thailand. Maybe I should consider a MILF sponsorship foundation? What an unfortunate name for a terrorist organization by the way. MILF = Mothers I'd Like to Fu** OR Moro Islamic Liberation Front. Hmmm. I'd pick the first one any day.

I liked GenSan quite a lot. Simple "city" but a huge fish fleet and a fish market that I can spend hours on just looking at the various species and mega tunas. Had a VERY good kinilaw in a local simple restaurant.

Barba



[QUOTE=GoodEnough]
The only places that would interest most of the guys who read this board are Davao, CDO, Zamboanga and, perhaps, General Santos City, all of them safe. As I think I've said before, the drive from Davao to CDO is beautiful, passing through various micro-climates and types of scenery, and well worth taking if you have the time.

GE[/QUOTE]

Barba,

You're not alone, whenever I am in Gensan I spend hours at the fish port, I would love to hook one of the real biggies on rod-and-line.

Yummi! Wonderful yellow fin. Imagine that one ripping of 200 meters of nylon in a few seconds.

B

[QUOTE=Delbert]Barba,

You're not alone, whenever I am in Gensan I spend hours at the fish port, I would love to hook one of the real biggies on rod-and-line.[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm still in the fine city of Davao hehe.

Just an update on activities.

Today, I managed to almost double book two girls. One was a new 'friend' I met on the internet. 19 year old very attractive, former athlete. She actually stood me up on Monday but begged my forgiveness (something about a jeepney breaking down). Anyway, I gave her another chance and agreed to meet her at the mall. Almost gave up as she was 30 minutes late! (Filipina time). But I'm glad I stayed. Very attractive and slim body. She originally only wanted to meet for coffee and not to fuck (looking for serious relationship), but she said on arrival that she did not want anything to eat or drink. So I suggested we go to the closest inn. We got there and she acted a little shy, but I new as soon as she thrust her tongue down my throat that everything would be fine haha.

Didn't ask for money other than transport but of course I gave her 1 000. She also suggested we could go to her home province later in the week. I don't think so.

My problem was, I had arranged to meet a regular gf two hours later and did not want to stand her up. So I only put one shot through my new friend and then hurried on to my next appointment.

A bigger problem is that my live in gf is back in town tonight and stated that she wants servicing.... There is nothing quite like a middle aged fool is there? haha.

Anyway, life was not meant to be easy.

I have a question for those better informed than me.


I often see girls wandering around the various entertainment precincts carrying rather large hand bags. Is this a fashion statement or are they looking for a date and are coming prepared?

[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]I have a question for those better informed than me.

I often see girls wandering around the various entertainment precincts carrying rather large hand bags. Is this a fashion statement or are they looking for a date and are coming prepared?[/QUOTE]Hmmm. What do you mean with "coming prepared" Steve? :) Anyway, it is a fashion statement. Large hand bags are made available all over Uyanguren now, hehehe.

Anya, who knows what 'weaponry' Filipinas are packing hehe. I was thinking that the big bags were like overnight bags - change of clothes toiletries etc.

I guess I was wrong...

Steve

[QUOTE=Steve Dunstone]Anya, who knows what 'weaponry' Filipinas are packing hehe. I was thinking that the big bags were like overnight bags - change of clothes toiletries etc.

I guess I was wrong...

Steve[/QUOTE]
Steve, I don't think you were wrong. These things may be "fashion statements," but they're also high practical and I suspect that the girls carry whatever they may need in the event that they get to spend the night somewhere other than their homes.

GE

Guys thanks for the feedback. I was just in CdO and I must admit this place has the best looking barfines that I have seen in the PI. Some very exceptional talent! I do worry about ages however as they all seem to be perpetual liers! Bata Bing had great talent. As did thrives

Per the recommendation below, I am off by bus to Bislig and then Davao.

@GE, no really, these are fashion statements :) Filipinas usually don't come prepared for events like the one mentioned. If they know they are going to stay for the night though, believe me, they will come prepared with bigger bags, lol!

And really... we are not so much of a girl scout. Some of us may be. But we usually give them a raised eyebrow, since it usually comes out corny, hehehe.

According to the recommendations I got here on the board, I tried plaza roman for a daytime pleasure. As soon as I arrived there by taxi I was guided to around the building to the back. There I was even outside the building welcomed by about 3 women. Took the prettiest one and went inside. She guided me to a rather nice room with a big Jacuzzi. Then the negotiation part came. She wanted 2000 peso for 1½ hours and I was able to bargain her down to 1500. That is only the price for her, the fee for the room is another couple hundred peso.

We undressed and went to the Jacuzzi. But the water was cold, so we were not able to have the bath session and cleaned only with a shower. Up to the big bed! She has a nice body, no kids and medium size boobs. To warm her up (she was kind of commercial at the beginning) I started with DATY her. The more I liked her all over the body, the more she warmed up. So it was not so difficult to convince her that the BJ goes without and the boom boom with condom. She let me come twice, once in her mouth and once in her sweet pussy.

Overall an ok experience.

Yes, I am really moving out tomorrow and into a hotel. f

I am a monger at heart, and really need to move on...haha.

I was hoping to try and catch-up with some fellow travellers.

I will be here for at least a week. Might even stay if I meet someone special..

Will keep you posted.

PS. Have a lovely young pregnant girl to see tomorrow morning (5 months).

Well, things didn't quite go to plan.... I thought I had a reasonable exit strategy including generous severence money etc etc for my gf.

The other night had it all. Stabbing, police, 911, Casualty . You get the picture.

The good news is no one was seriously hurt, I didnt get deported, and the police were very good, sympathetic and supportive.

So, I am a free man, finding his way in the world again haha. Might see some of you around town.

Anya, if u still frequent Jikongs, might see you there one evening. To swap war stories haha. Yes, the beer there is very, very cold.

So, a final warning to all mongers. be very careful out there! The World can be a dangerous place. LOL

Steve

Whoa Steve, stabbing? What the hell?

Hehe, I have actually cut out going out these days. Saving up for something. But if I do go there, I hope I'll recognize you :D :)

Well my Vacation is over and I'm back home wondering how it all went so fast. My stop in Davao, was by far, the best part of the trip. The Non P4P action was incredible. Roman Plaza, though over priced in my opinion, had some fairly decent women, one cute 19 year old whom I selected to join me back at the hotel. Incidently, she came back to my room two more times after the inital cost of meeting her at Romans, and she continued to text me wanting to meet until I left. Had I not met a few non P4P women during my stay in Davao, it would have been great to spend more time with her.

The Marco Polo Hotel was worth every peso spent there. I won't stay any place else during my next visit. It had all the Amenities plus a fairly decent gym. The only thing that could have made it better was if the internet connection was free. It cost peso 500 a day and expired 24hrs from the time of the purchase. A small fee, but for convenience value, they should have included the cost in the room rate. All of the restaurants there had excellent food. I spent a lot of evenings at pool-side eating, drinking and enjoying the pool lights changing colors.

The view of the city from Jacks Ridge was spectacular, and the views of the ladies in the Auto Shop and Torres street area were even better. I found that just making eye contact, smiling, and being a gentleman was enough to pave the way for an evening of fun. You mongers who like the wild wild west feel of Angeles City might take note that Davao is NOT your type of town! It moves at a much slower pace. But there is plenty of fun to be had there if you're not in a hurry. I'm sad to say, the six days I spent there were not nearly long enough to discover all the possibilities held by the city. Davao is definitely the kind of city I would like to live in when I retire. I envy those of you who live there now.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Yella Man]The view of the city from Jacks Ridge was spectacular, and the views of the ladies in the Auto Shop and Torres street area were even better. I found that just making eye contact, smiling, and being a gentleman was enough to pave the way for an evening of fun. You mongers who like the wild wild west feel of Angeles City might take note that Davao is NOT your type of town! It moves at a much slower pace. But there is plenty of fun to be had there if you're not in a hurry. I'm sad to say, the six days I spent there were not nearly long enough to discover all the possibilities held by the city. Davao is definitely the kind of city I would like to live in when I retire. I envy those of you who live there now.

Yella Man[/QUOTE]

I spent a month there this summer, did not want to leave-ever. Walked around outside at night and felt very safe. Huge population of regular girls in the town. And you can bus some more in for a couple hundred pesos. There still is much in the city I still want to see.
Do take a girl to the Croc Park, it is a fun place to visit. Also Samal is only a 30 peso boat trip to visit and has some nice beaches.

Davao wet t-shirt.

Samal island / paradise

x

I woke this morning, sitting in work I suddenly realised how much I need a decent holiday, just been looking at flights online, Looks like I will be back in Davao for Araw ng Dabaw again this year.

Lucky us, Delbert. I'm back in town next week.

See you all, or maybe more likely just very few of you. Well, you all know I am always open for a SML and/or some pool so feel free to drop me a line.

As always the beer club will have some food and a few meters of beer in Jerrys @ Gaisano Mall coming Friday, i.e. March 6. Welcome to join me and a few non ISG:ers at 6-ish. A friendly bunch so no need to be nervous or shy. ;-)

Cheers Barba!

[QUOTE=Delbert]I woke this morning, sitting in work I suddenly realised how much I need a decent holiday, just been looking at flights online, Looks like I will be back in Davao for Araw ng Dabaw again this year.[/QUOTE]

I’m I reading this wrong or do you always sleep, sitting at work? Hehe!

Just jealous. I’m looking out the window of my office at four feet of snow and moaning that my flight to Phil doesn’t leave for another 57 days!!

It was a toss up between bowhunting in Canada or the sabong derby at Buhangin,the choice was easy as when I phoned Canada last week it was -12.

Hello Genghois!!!! we have to find time to meet in Mindanao!

Well, I started planning my next trip to the Philippines. I'll be leaving the United States around June 15. I'm an academic site don't have to be back until the end of August, more or less. I was thinking of flying from New York or Atlanta to Malaysia. I want to take one of those tours to see the jungle. Of course I want to take a girl with me. The tours themselves are not that expensive. One of the guys on this forum has introduced me to his sister who is a travel agent in Malaysia. She is trying to find me some nice tours. But it doesn't seem that easy to take a local girl with me, especially if I only have one or two days after I arrive in which to get to know her. I've heard there are a lot of Filipinos there but most of them are pretty hard-core. I could fly in a girl that I know from my last trip. I'm not sure.

After visiting the jungle, I want to go to Mindanao. The problem is how to get there. The only way that seems to be recommended is to fly to Manila and then fly to Davao. It seems so much more direct -- and more interesting -- to take a boat from Kota Kinabalu to zamboanga. Unfortunately, this passes through Abu Sayaf territory. So again I'm not really sure how to handle it.

I am planning to visit Davao, General Santos and maybe other places in Mindanao. I would be very happy to make the acquaintance via this website of anyone who lives there or is planning to be there this summer.. I've been to the Philippines twice before so I know a little bit about it. I am a scuba diver. I prefer non-pro girls, but I don't have too much patience for Filipinas who are too slow. so maybe I am really looking for semipro women.

I would strongly advise against taking the ferry. Things are heating up around the Zamboanga area and it's just not as safe as it has been. I have an office there, and I've been visiting the area for years, but it's changing fast and not for the better I'm afraid. Hopefully, after the elections in 2010, things will go back to the way they were.

I'm a diver as well and I live in Davao, so I would be happy to hook you up with some dives when you're here.

GE

Got to endorse GE's comments, always take note of the man on the grounds intel, I visited sulu and jolo last year with a governmental organisation, sometimes you get a vibe, the place has one nowadays, the guys with us werent for decoration. If your thinking of a jungle-trek in Malaysia visit Sabah, just over the water from Pinas, I did some training there years ago, great place and the last time I was there some excellent walks.

CT, you can get a flight from KK to Manila, Cebu or Clark. Via Cebu would probably be quickest if you want a connection to Davao.

[QUOTE=Delbert]Got to endorse GE's comments, always take note of the man on the grounds intel, I visited sulu and jolo last year with a governmental organisation, sometimes you get a vibe, the place has one nowadays, the guys with us werent for decoration. If your thinking of a jungle-trek in Malaysia visit Sabah, just over the water from Pinas, I did some training there years ago, great place and the last time I was there some excellent walks.[/QUOTE]
Jolo is the capitol city of Sulu, and it's an excellent place to avoid. You should only be there with trained people carrying serious weaponry which is only possible if you're there on some sort of official business. The guys who work for us who are stationed there live under lock down conditions with 24/7 guards. But again, as I often point out, even if Sulu were safe, there would be no reason for anyone from this board to go there for a vacation. There's very little there, and none of the amenities that would attract foreigners.

If you simply must sample part of the Sulu Archipelago, I suggest you try Bongao, the capitol of Tawi-Tawi, which is lots safer, though not completely secure. You can get once-a-day flight from there to Zamboanga and from Zamgoanga there are two daily flights to Davao. I believe that Tawi-Tawi is the closest point of the Philippines to Malaysia, and that getting from Sabah to Tawi-Tawi is not much of a problem.

On the whole however, it's better to avoid Basilan, Sulu, Tawi-Tawi and, increasingly, Zamboanga. If you want to come to the beautiful region of Mindanao, think of Davao, Cagayan de Oro and perhaps General Santos City, all of which are safe and secure.

GE

GoodEnough's right,in the past I have been all over sulu,from Sitangkai up to Bongao,pretty islands,nice people,but no nightlife,if you do visit Bongao the only thing there is to climb Bongao peak to view the grave on the top,apart from that theres little else,Davao is my tip if your heading for Mindanao.

I'm considering hitting both CDO and Davao during my next Philippine adventure. How can I travel safely between these cities? From the previous posts, I'm wondering if its even possible to do so without serious risk. Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

Gumby

[QUOTE=Gumby2004]I'm considering hitting both CDO and Davao during my next Philippine adventure. How can I travel safely between these cities? From the previous posts, I'm wondering if its even possible to do so without serious risk. Any advice would be appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

Gumby[/QUOTE]
Your only option to travel directly between the cities is to take a bus, which runs several times a day between the two cities. The ride will take you about seven hours. I suggest you take the Executive coach, which is quite comfortable, and runs movies throughout the ride. It's a very safe trip so long as you do it during the day, and it's quite a pretty ride. A more indirect and much more expensive route is to fly from Davao to Cebu and then from Cebu to CDO. The bus trip will cost somewhere around Php500 and the trip by plane will, I estimate, cost around Php5,000.

GE

I was planning to go to Davao this summer for a couple of months because I had read great things, but then I saw this. Could anyone respond and tell me what to make of conflicting opinions on this city.

This is the report from another site:

"Don't bother with Davao. It's all KTVs that are a total rip-off and virtually zero P4P. Davao is a VERY different kind of place. It is VERY conservative. Don't bother trying to get pussy while you're there. Just enjoy the fruit that's in season in July. Davao has lots of really great fruit that they export throughout the country and the world.

I've been there over a dozen times for weeks at a time. The nicest hotel in town is the Marco Polo, and shouldn't cost you more than $70 per night. If you order a massage in your room, you will be sadly disappointed to find that the girls are all legitimate masseuses and will NOT grant you a happy ending, and will look at you really weird if you ask them how much it will cost for some action.

There are a lot of really cool things to do and see in Davao that are unique to the rest of the Philippines, which is why I go there. But I usually only go for a week or two at a time, and then spend the rest of my time in Manila doing nothing but chasing around girls, er, I mean, women. Manila is the place for pussy. Davao is NOT.

By the way, the massage parlors in Davao are ALL legit. But you can get a really good massage for $4-$6 per hour.

There is only one place in this entire city of one million people where you can find street action. You can get laid for $10-$15, LITERALLY. Most of the girls range from 5-8 and there are occasional stunners, and there is no upcharge for the stunners.

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was planning to go to Davao this summer for a couple of months because I had read great things, but then I saw this. Could anyone respond and tell me what to make of conflicting opinions on this city.
[/QUOTE]

How’s it going, bud?

Check out Dragon Slayer’s Forum. That’s where the Davao experts on ISG live. By all reports, a target-rich environment. I’ve certainly had more responses from Davao girls on FH, DIA and the like than any place else in Phil. I’ve got at least one cp# for every night of my stay, the first week of May. So the non-pro girls seem to have some game. I promise to report back!

I don’t know about two months, my friend. I’d go crazy staying in any one place, for that long (including at home!)

As far as P4P, here’s a run down of the venues and pricing that I lifted from another site:

Hot Legs1
Palma Gil St.
LD: P300
VIP Room: P1500
BF: P2500
Business Hour: 19-2:30
Posted: 2009.02

Hot Legs2
San Pedro St.
LD: P300
VIP Room: P1500
BF: P2500
Business Hour: 19:00-2:00
Posted: 2009.02

Hot Legs3
F.Inigo
LD:P300
VIP Room: P1500
BF: P2500
Business Hour: 19:00-2:00
Posted: 2009.02

Apollo
F.Inigo
LD: P190
VIP Room: P1250
BF: P2600
Business Hour: 20:00-2:00
Posted: 2009.02

ET KTV
Ecoland Dr.
LD: P540(2杯目以降180ペソ）
VIP Room: P1200
Posted: 2009.02

Plaza Roman
J.P.Cabaguio Ave.
Entrance Fee: P200
LD: P280
VIP Room: P1500+Tip
BF: 3500
Business Hour: 21:00-2:00
Posted: 2009.02

Starrett Night Club
A.Bonifacio
LD: P300
VIP Room: P1600
BF: P2500
Business Hour: 20:00-2:00
Posted: 2009.02

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]I was planning to go to Davao this summer for a couple of months because I had read great things, but then I saw this. Could anyone respond and tell me what to make of conflicting opinions on this city.

This is the report from another site:

"Don't bother with Davao. It's all KTVs that are a total rip-off and virtually zero P4P. Davao is a VERY different kind of place. It is VERY conservative. Don't bother trying to get pussy while you're there. Just enjoy the fruit that's in season in July. Davao has lots of really great fruit that they export throughout the country and the world.
.[/QUOTE]
I have been a month or so in the 3 big cities:Manila, Cebu, and Davao. Davao was by far the easiest to score with beautifully girls.

Davao is like some kind of sanctuary from crime, I felt very safe there. Very affordable and the city has so many girls to choose from. Also, you can bus in a girl from any of the provinces for very cheap, no need to leave the city. If you get bored, you can find flights to Manila and Cebu for under $40.

I only used a hooker once, because I just wanted to try it out. I called some taxi driver who had put in his cp# into my phone"just ïn case I need anything"

The only SWs, I saw were a few in the parking lot near Victoria Mall (or Victoria Plaza, not sure of the name)

Your peso goes very far in Davao, I mostly spent between 900 and 1200 peso a night for a room.
I agree, check out DS's forum also, he and GE have spent a lot of time there.

Is this anything to worry about in terms of hiking in the countryside?


Fresh Fighting in South Philippines Kills 27 People


MANILA, March 28 (Reuters) - At least 27 people were killed, including seven soldiers, and dozens were wounded when troops battled about 80 rogue members of the Philippines' largest Muslim rebel group in the south, an army spokesman said on Saturday.

Philippine troops have been fighting a rogue faction of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) on the southern island of Mindanao for nearly eight months after the renegade rebel forces burned farms and homes in Catholic-dominated towns in the south.

Troops killed about 20 rebels and dozens were wounded during an eight hour battle on Friday near Liguasan marsh, said army spokesman Lieutenant-Colonel Jonathan Ponce.

"We recovered mangled bodies in the area," Ponce told reporters. "Some bodies were hanging on treetops. They got hit by our artillery shelling. But we lost seven men and five were also wounded."

Ponce said troops were still on clearing operations and were chasing remnants of an 80-member renegade group that were in the area.

"Based on our intelligence, this group was planning to attack villages so we pre-empted them," he added.

Nearly 500 people have been killed in clashes since August last year when peace talks between the government and the MILF bogged down after Manila's high court scrapped a proposed deal carving a larger ancestral homeland for Muslims in the south.

Disgruntled rebels attacked Catholic-dominated towns on the southern island of Mindanao, burning homes and farms and killing dozens of civilians.

The military launched an offensive against the rebels, forcing a team of peace monitors from Brunei, Libya, Japan and Malaysia to withdraw to safety. Later, the Malaysians pulled out whne talks collapsed.

Manila is now trying to restart talks, forming a new peace negotiating panel and asking Malaysia to call for talks between the government and the rebels.

The MILF has been fighting for self-determination for nearly 40 years. The conflict has killed 120,000 people and displaced 2 million. At the height of fighting last year, nearly 700,000 people were also forced to abandon their homes and farms.

The Mindanao fighting sounds like the Cotobato area. Mindanao is the 2nd largest island in the country. Avoid going overland to the southwest and you should be in the clear.

It depends on where you plan to do your hiking.
GE

What countryside?
It depends on where you plan to do your hiking.
GE

Lets say 2 hours outside of davao, as an example.

[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]What countryside?
It depends on where you plan to do your hiking.
GE

Lets say 2 hours outside of davao, as an example.[/QUOTE]
If you head West towards CDO, after about two hours, you will end up at the Eastern edge of Bukidnon which is nothing but country till you get further west. You would be pretty safe there, but there's little in the way of cell coverage and no help if you should get hurt. I suggest you do not go on your own.

GE

No, I would only go with a guide. Thank you. Good to know there is plenty of countryside to hide in without being kidnapped.

I would also like to give my input about Davao as a newbie, because we have some contrast opinions between first time visitor who spend a couple of days there and those are experienced punters who really know where to go and what to do. I was there for about 4 days a couple of month ago.

I was first for a day at Marco Polo, yes it’s nice, but it’s about 100 euros per night so it ends up costing a lot if you are there for a couple of weeks. I read somewhere in the forum you could get some really good prices like 3000 pesos or something in that region, please explain how many days you should stay to obtain such prices, and who to negotiate with, either the clerk from the registration desk or perhaps ask to speak to someone from management.

After I have stayed at Casa Leticia which is a small hotel, rather modest, but clean, excellent location (near Apo hotel) and also with free wifi! However it has a very poor breakfast!

I could use tip for quality restaurants, because even though if the Marco Polo hotel has a descent buffet we are clearly a bit far from Michelin Star gastronomy while in Manila you can get a really nice diner at the Grill restaurant at the Hyatt or at the Shangri La hotel to name a few.

Davao is a very safe city, there are entertainment as there are Casinos, night life is nice you can always find a restaurant even at a very late time of the night.

Regarding P4P night life as I was not alone during this trip I could only visit Hot Legs, (don’t remember which one) and the line up was descent.

The City is vast, honestly it’s nothing special, there is no architecture. It looks like everything is very recent there are a few descent buildings in the center not so far from Marco Polo hotel for example, but the rest of the city is very dark at night … and looks like cheap houses that were self made by the inhabitants. In a way Davao remind me of some parts of Los Angeles which are just flat street with warehouses, fast food places etc …

Davao is huge from the center it takes a while to drive to SM Mall. Near the SM are located the very few condos buildings from Davao. Unlike in Cebu I didn’t see any girls trying to make a pass at me. Then again I was there for *real* shopping but maybe some of you can tell us if it’s possible to make “friends” at the Mall.

On a side note, if you smoke, don’t go to Davao! Smoking is forbidden!

Nature is nice is Davao, there is samal island. Without a vehicule it’s boring. Personally what I did, was when I crossed I found a group of guys with small motos / scooters, and I offered them to rent me one of their bikes for the afternoon. I think I paid 500 pesos, which was probably too much, but I didn’t want to argue for too long.

There is also Mt Apo the biggest mountain of the Phils.

Personally even though I haven’t really investigated all the possibilities of P2P in the city, I had a fine time there. Atmosphere is more laid back than in Manila, I think Davao is like the Napoli or the Marseille of the Phils. Except the surrounding nature, clearly the main asset of Davao is the “mood” of the city, it’s really pleasant. At night there are people out in the street partying in bars around Rizal, people seem happy… It was really a pleasant stay.

I would happily return to Davao for a longer period perhaps 3 weeks or a month, if I can find affordable and quality accommodation, and some tips to find quality girls (for long term booking like one week +) rather than one night stand with Hot Leg or KTV girls.

I think Davao is a city that only reveals itself to those who shall stay there for a week or more to really understand the city. (Something I shall try soon).
That’s it for the newbie feedback of a short visit in the fine City of Davao.

I congratulate you EF, as I think you have captured the essence of Davao pretty well. It's a laid back kind of place that take a while to get to know, but once you know where to go and how to get there, it's a terrific place to live.

As to how to establish a decent rate at the Marco, I cannot advise you. My company has established rates there, and it's where we put all of our visitors, but I haven't stayed there in years and no longer know anyone. However, if you're staying for a longer period, I would suggest you think of renting a service apartment, which is far less expensive and offers (almost) all the amenities of home. You might look at Red Knight Garden and/or Drifters, both of which have small restaurants and bars and pools. I think you can get a studio at Red Knight for less than $20 a night, and it's quite a decent place.

As I've mentioned before, Red Knight and Drifters, which is a bit further north, used to be considered well outside the city center. With the emergence of the Damosa area as a new, secondary city center however, that's changed and both of these places are within 5-10 minutes of the night spots and restaurants of Damosa. And speaking of Damosa, I would recommend that you try the Swiss Deli for breakfast the next time you're in town.

There are also lots of places with much better food than the Marco, though the restaurant by the pool there is not bad. In the downtown area, for example, there's De Bonte Koe (European food) and Cafe de Ville (French food), both of which are on Rizal St. within walking distance of the Apo View and about a one minute taxi ride. Tsuru, the Japanese restaurant is owned by the owners of the Apo View and is next to the hotel. There's also a branch in Damosa. If you like good, home cooked Italian food, La Toscana on Quirino, diagonally across the street from Davao Doctors Hospital is quite good, though the parade of lady boys moving incessantly past the restaurant made unnerve some of the customers. Pico Belo, owned by the owners of Swiss Deli and on the top floor of Gaisano South Mall in the center of town also has good Italian food.

Further north, in the Damosa/JP Laurel area, there's a new and quite good Thai place called Bangkok Wok, which is in the new Robinson's complex. A little further north, there's Spirale, quite a good Italian Restaurant in Damosa Gate, and also a new Japanese restaurant, the name of which escapes me, next to Spirale. Of course the Swiss Deli, which is always good, is just across the street from the entrance to Damosa Gate. There are also lots of upscale Filipino places, if that's not an oxymoron, on Torres St., an a mediocre Thai restaurant called Krua Thai also on Torres St. next to the large Bo's Coffee Shop.

You can get good morning coffee and pastries at Blue Gre, on Bajada in the center of town, and there are three or four decent Chinese restaurants just behind and to the side of Victoria Plaza on Bajada.

As to "natural" stuff, the next time you're here, check out the Eagle sanctuary, the crocodile and butterfly farm and some of the more mountainous areas west of the city center. To get to the latter however, you will need a car, as Davao is enormous, and the drive will take you at least 90 minutes.

There's lots of other things to do and there are lots of other places to eat and to gawk at women, but I think this post has rambled on long enough.

GE

Nicely described , EF.
You got the essence of Davao!

I travelled there and met ladies i had made contact with over Date-in-Asia. From Zamboanga,from Gensan,from Cd"oro....

Last time i spent the Easter weeks there - so relaxing and layed back.
The only time Davao looked like a ghost town was on Good Friday :-).

Spent 2 weeks in Red Night , and had spent time in Wite Mansion before . Googgle for it, both are on the web.


GE - old pro! I salute you for your tips on Davao restaurants!
I believe i mee you next time, and we have a drink together around Peoples Park...cheers.

-G.H- Great Hunter

Thanks for the restaurants tips GE. See I had the chance to live in Paris for years so I've been a bit spoiled regarding cuisine, and I always have some problems in the phils regarding that matter!

Actually while there is a dedicated hotel thread for Manila & Angeles, there should be a restaurant thread as well! Some of us like to treat themselves and their date with fine cuisine! (end of note to moderator! )

Well hope everyone else (people who have never gone to davao) will understand the concept of the city that has nothing to visit but is pleasant to live.

Another asset of Davao is the fact there is no real rainy season. So for europeans & americans who often have summer breaks, it's a good way to avoid manila rainy season in June. October.

I lived in Paris for a long, long time, and believe me I understand about getting spoiled with the food and the wine. Let me assure you, that the best you will do in Davao (Cafe de Ville) is, at its best, equivalent to a neighborhood bistro or even a good tabac in the city of light. If you judge by French standards, Davao will fall far short, not only in food of course, but in about every dimension (except women) I can think of. But of course, I'm a total Francophile and for me, everyplace in the world falls far short of Paris.

Having said that though, Swiss Deli is owned by two Swiss/Germans; one a butcher and one a baker, and they make all of their own sausages and hams and cut and cure all of their own beef. The sausages (and even some saucissons) are truly European, and very good. I buy literally dozens of them at a time and freeze them at home. They also import some excellent European cheeses, including a nice Roquefort, and their bread--baguettes, multi-grains, pumpernickel, and rye--are baked every few hours, so they're fresh and very good, or about as good as you can get European bread in a tropical climate. Their pastries are also good and made on premises. Hola Espana, a Spanish restaurant across the street from Swiss Deli has lousy food, but does import some excellent cheeses, and you can buy nice chorizo, imported from Spain, at Spirale, in Damosa Gate.

Swiss Deli also has a reasonably large wine cellar, and you can buy nice reds for as little as Php1,200 or so, up to Php20,000. It's properly chilled and stored, and good value for money, though I confess I've never opted for the Php20,000 range. About the only thing you cannot find in Davao is decent, vintage Champagne, though you can find the garden variety Moet et Chandon at lots of places. I also remember Claude's (Cafe de Ville) selling a very drinkable Champagne that Dragon Slayer once purchased and which we shared over a meal.

If you're in Manila, you might want to try Toscas at the Dusit. It's not Gourmet class, but it has an Italian chef, is managed by a German, and the food is quite good. I once had a duck ravioli there that was superb. The selection of Italian reds is pretty extensive, though somewhat on the pricey side. The service is impeccable and the ambiance is quite pleasant.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I lived in Paris for a long, long time, and believe me I understand about getting spoiled with the food and the wine. But of course, I'm a total Francophile and for me, everyplace in the world falls far short of Paris.

If you're in Manila, you might want to try Toscas at the Dusit. It's not Gourmet class, but it has an Italian chef, is managed by a German, and the food is quite good. I once had a duck ravioli there that was superb. The selection of Italian reds is pretty extensive, though somewhat on the pricey side. The service is impeccable and the ambiance is quite pleasant.

GE[/QUOTE]
GE
Are you saying that one cannot find quality British food in Davao....:( I know your views on UK food (:D) but you have not tried it with a real 'connoisseur' .... maybe there is an opening in the market :D

Or shall I bring my own delicacies...with the Gevrey Chambetin :D

I agree about Tosca's it is a nice place great service nice staff etc

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]GE
Are you saying that one cannot find quality British food in Davao....:( I know your views on UK food (:D) but you have not tried it with a real 'connoisseur' .... maybe there is an opening in the market :D

Or shall I bring my own delicacies...with the Gevrey Chambetin :D

I agree about Tosca's it is a nice place great service nice staff etc[/QUOTE]
Oh, sorry Roger, I forgot the mention that the height of the British culinary experience, beans on toast, is widely available. As to the Gevrey Chambertin, need I point out that it's French?

GE

Ge: thanks for those tips I'll give it a try this summer!

Perhaps we should speak to michelin to get them to hire us to do a "guide rouge" of the Philippines, after all they did one for HK & Macao and for Tokyo!

The japanese near casa laeticia is descent. Well considering the overall offer in Davao. I'm always worried when eating raw fish in the Phils because who knows how it's been conserved during the phils food industry supply chain!

WR: UK cuisine please! Don't fool yourself! Unless "the fat duck" opens a branch in Davao, (very unlikely me thinks), there is no english cuisine!

Nobody wants to eat jelly or pudding under the tropics!

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Oh, sorry Roger, I forgot the mention that the height of the British culinary experience, beans on toast, is widely available. [/QUOTE]

Ah … but you probably haven’t troughed at The Fat Duck in Bray. I have, way back in 1997, well before Heston Blumethal got his 3rd Michelin star and was acclaimed as one of the worlds best young chefs and branched out as a TV celebrity. The food back then was the best I’ve ever tasted (and I’ve although I'm no epicure, I’ve noshed in some decent joints). And yes, despite his name, he is British and unlike most top British chefs, his dishes might be described as modern British fusion, although I’m not too sure about the snail porridge or the bacon and egg ice cream that feature on his recent menu’s.

And as for The Greasy Spoon Caff in Grimsby….mmmm….heaven:D.

Most people are avoiding Mr Blumethal's establishment nowadays GH after he had a mass food poisoning scare, there were over 400 complaints. Never ate there myself, dog adobo was always good enough for me.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Oh, sorry Roger, I forgot the mention that the height of the British culinary experience, beans on toast, is widely available. As to the Gevrey Chambertin, need I point out that it's French?

GE[/QUOTE]
:D:D:D

A good Gevrey with beans on toast would be ideal.......I am British after all

See you soon with the Gevrey..will leave the beans and the greasy spoon food behind where it will be better apprecaited ;)

The tuna for the suhi comes from General Santos City, the self-proclaimed "tuna capital of the world," and most of the good tuna goes to Japan. Given that it's only 3 hours or so from Davao, I give the food preservation chain the benefit of the doubt. I've eaten the sushi there many times and I've never gotten sick.

GE

Just got back from yet another trip to Davao. The fourth this year I think. You do not go to Davao for the food alone, that is for sure. But except for GE:s advices on more or less fine establishments, I want to give a recommendation for Cusina Selera on Camus (?). If you travel down San Pedro in the direction you are allowed to drive you take a right and then you have it just to you left after a few meters. Right after the Starbucks look alike. Traditional Pinoy dishes with a touch of fine dining. The mohitos with fresh herbs alone are worth a visit in this city of few food&drink-options.

On the topic of raw fish: revisited Tsuru on Legaspi. They clearly made an effort since last time to serve better and fresher food. This time it was just about worth the 6000 peso we spent for 5 eating persons. The sake is always good at least.

Had a go at the thai place at Robinson. The best in Davao but still far from my top ten list.

More white guys on the regular places. The same scene of entertainment as always. No changes in that respect, except the temporary fluctuation in what is “hip and in” that month. A lot of SW around San Pedro, Rizal and as always over at C Bank.

Tried a few massage places. One place right opposite the entrance of Gaisano South was a pleasant surprise. I think there where three spas in a row, and this one was the one to the right. In through a barber shop and up some narrow stairs. The girl had steel muscles, and really worked me through good. Visit to the hotel was negotiable but no sex. Yea right... The next evening they texted me frenetically to come and massage me again. Another place right in that area offered a massage that was significantly less good for my back and significantly more interesting for my TRex. 750 P for piano play and a superb HJ. Cheap and dirty place with just curtains to cover the “door” of the dressing rooms they used for this enterprise. A small room, a sign saying “Absolutely no sex” and those walls that stop about 0.5 meters from the floor and 1 meter from the ceiling. I picked a cute 21 year old girl with bad teeth. Did not even want to put my dick in her mouth but fondled her tits and lifted her skirt to slide a finger in her little damp clam while whispering... well lets not go into that. After the deed was done I realized what the bucket of water and damp cloth was used for and I said “HELL NO!”, snatched her bottle of alcohol and used the bed sheet. Had a nice talk with dance outside with the girls while waiting for my buddies. Age ranging from 21 - ~50. The once I was dancing with was the oldest mama of them all. All happy and wired up because she just made a fortune. Experience before beauty paid off that night for her. Got the number of another quite cute girl with a belly not matching her face. Texted with her but my schedule did not allow me to see that particular girl again during this particular trip.

Back in a coupe of months.

Cheers Barba!

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I've heard other people mention C. Bank, what is it? I don't see it on a map.

[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I've heard other people mention C. Bank, what is it? I don't see it on a map.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what Barba's referring to so cannot help you.

On another topic, we were at Henny's (De Bonte Koe) last night, and we didn't get there until about 9. By the time we arrived, Some Place Else, the bar next door, was packed with young people smoking their water pipes and drinking their Red Horse beer. The place must be making great money since it's jammed every week end, and I think it stays open until about 3 in the morning. Again, there are very few ladies who come there alone. Usually, it's populated by tables of five or six people---often men and women---who look like they're having a good time. I suspect however, that with a little game and a little patience, some of the ladies are available.

The good news here is that the summer is over, which means that the nursing schools are in session again starting this week. This in turn means that the deluge of women in white will begin anew.

GE

I was in Davao last week on business and I hired a taxi to take me around to the streetwalkers and Casa's. We spent about a hour and visited nine places. The best sw site was Victoria Plaza and the best Casa was Sawsu. The sw were asking around 1500 LT and the Casa's the same. I found one really hot sw, but she said she was 18 and the gay pimping her asked me why I wanted ID and I told him that she looked 16 and he said, well don't ask the age. Whatever!!! I stayed in the Marco Polo and there was no way that I was going to take a girl who could be questioned. At every site I would say there were at least 10 girls and some had 20. My taxi fare was 120P and I gave the driver 100p tip.

I took a 20 yr old from Sawsu Casa and she was awesome. She wouldn't allow pictures, but I have contact number for anyone who is interested.

Robb

Thanks Robbaf for the report on casa. This is a scene I have little knowledge about.

When I/people refer to Central Bank it is actually all of Tionko street. If you drive down Torres and pass K1 and the thai place (it is on your left) you take a left right at the high school. First you see the older girls. They are normally also on the streets off Tionko street. Think they are named Arellano street and Mapa street. As you travel down Tionko you will see groups of girls with their mamasans sitting there just waiting for you (r wallet). Many of them are skanks and they normally have a horrible attitude, but some are sweet. As always. Make the deal with the mamasan and make an effort to remember her name if you need to "motivate" the girl. The mamasans come down hard on the girl if she gives you trouble. They will normally ask 1500 for the younger girls. 1000 is no problem. 800 requires some dealing. 500 can work if you are a returning visitor. I normally always pay 1000 and make everyone overwhelmed by happiness and motivation. I see it as an investment in my future. The older, I. E. 25+, will start and end at about half of that of a 18 year old girl.

I have visited C Bank many times over the years but the SW: s interest me less every visit since there is a big possibility one will end up disappointed on her performance or attitude. If I go pro I want to go pro all the way, and not hassle with some tattooed teenage mother that needs to convince herself that she is better than this using a crappy attitude and every possible moment to get off the hook or text her friends on the corner. I need actresses or gf: s.

Barba

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I got a call Thursday while I was in Manila, from a friend of mine who lives here in Davao. He's an American, and had a restaurant in New Orleans that got wiped out by Katrina. He's now semi-retired, and takes consulting assignments from time to time from groups or individuals opening new restaurants. He'll do the menu planning and oversee the kitchen for the first few weeks. He called to invite me for dinner at a new restaurant, for which he developed the menu and the recipes. It's called Grub, and it's located on Duterte St. just down the street from Galleria Hotel and to the rear of Gaisano South mall.

The place has been open for about three weeks. It's very attractively decorated and the owners have obviously spent some money on the furnishings and decoration, and they have just as obviously had some very professional interior design advice. The menu is unlike that of any other in Davao; a bit eclectic and not at all expensive. Entrees include crispy chicken, ribs, fish and chips, beef stew, and sauteed vegetables. There's a chicken fried steak sandwich, a meatball sandwich and an egg and cheese sandwich and three pasta dishes and there are two desserts; Homerun pie, which is made with peanut butter and chocolate kiss, which is a very rich pastry.

Did I mention there's also a seafood chowder, served in a bread bowl, and an enormous grilled pork chop? The most expensive single item on the menu is Php220 and the two of us ate for under Php700. The bread is all home made, as are the desserts.

The food, or at least the food that I sampled was acceptable, but not outstanding though the service was excellent. The owners, who also did the cooking were gracious and very friendly. The parking in that area is not abundant, but I assume that most of the folks going there from this board will not be driving, and any taxi can find it easily.

I was told repeatedly that as soon as the new flat grill arrives, in two or three weeks, the restaurant will be serving Philadelphia Cheese Steaks. If that's the case, and if they're real Philly Cheese Steaks, I may become a devotee.

GE

We went last night again to Henny's place, De Bonte Koe, which is not exactly earth shattering news, since we've probably been there about 200 times. From time to time however, I forget how good the food really is. I was reminded again last night with my steak tartar. Now to my knowledge, there are only two places in town where you can order the dish--as least only two where I would eat it--Claude's (Cafe de Ville) and Henny's. The steak tartar at Henny's is, at least in my opinion, far superior.

Henny's and Claude's are, again in my opinion, the best restaurants in Davao and the quality of the food is extremely consistent at both places. I go to Claude's when I get a strong craving for French food, especially duck, and I'm rarely disappointed. I go to Henny's when I want really good beef, cooked properly.

There are new restaurants in Davao opening all the time, and when the new SM and Ayala malls are completed, there will doubtless be even more. But these two remain for me, the best in the city for European food served well.

GE

Been following this thread for awhile ... thought everyone would find this article interesting re: LE environment in Davao:


Death Squads: A Murderous Plague
by Kenneth Roth

Posted May 20, 2009

When does closing one’s eyes to mass murder become encouragement? The Philippines present that question head-on. An electoral democracy with a vibrant press and competing political parties, the country has moved beyond most aspects of the Marcos dictatorship. But at least one legacy of that dark time remains—a dangerous willingness to use execution as a clandestine tool of government.

Until recently, the victims tended to be leftist party members and activists as well as sympathetic journalists and clergy. International condemnation led the government to curtail these extrajudicial killings, although the failure to prosecute the perpetrators remains worrying. Today, attention is turning to new categories of victims, mostly poor and marginalized, such as alleged petty criminals, drug dealers, gang members and street children.

The death squad capital of the Philippines is Davao City, the nation’s third largest city, located on the southern island of Mindanao. The city’s long-time mayor, Rodrigo Duterte, is famous for projecting an image of being tough on crime. Yet despite his hands-on approach to governance, Mr. Duterte claims ignorance about the so-called Davao Death Squad, denying that it even exists.

A recent Human Rights Watch investigation made a mockery of his denials. Nine insiders described the machinery of death. Current and former Davao police officers and local officials select the targets and equip local thugs with handguns or knives. Riding a motorcycle without license plates, the death squad members approach their victim in broad daylight, often in busy markets, and with no attempt to hide their identities, kill him in cold blood. The killers then nonchalantly drive off, confident that the police, who had been warned of the murder and thus conveniently absented themselves, will take their time to return, and will then perform at best a perfunctory investigation. Witnesses are too terrified to identify the death squad members for fear of becoming their next victim.

More than 800 Davao City residents have fallen victim to the Davao Death Squad over the last decade, and the trend is accelerating; 33 were killed this past January alone. Moreover, death squads have now sprung up elsewhere in Mindanao and beyond.

Mr. Duterte’s response to this epidemic of murder in his city has been cagey. While denying any connection to death squads, he announced this past February that if you’re a criminal, “you are a legitimate target of assassination.” No translator was needed to understand his drift. President Arroyo, who once appointed Mr. Duterte her adviser on peace and order, only recently began to confront the ugly reality of the death squads.

Mr. Duterte’s denials would be one thing if there were serious questions about the existence of the Davao Death Squad. The lack of evidence that Mr. Duterte is personally directing the killing is beside the point. Rather, his denial of the undeniable signals to death squad members and those directing them that he is willing to cover up for their murderous activities. The death squad members are not stupid; they can read between the lines. Mr. Duterte’s blinking at reality suggests a nod and a wink.

Sadly, given the continuing inadequacy of the Philippine justice system, many Filipinos seem to accept the need for such brutality in approaching the nation’s crime problem. But it’s not only wrong to summarily take someone’s life; it’s also extraordinarily dangerous.

Contrary to expectations, the Davao Death Squad has not reduced crime. In the decade since it began operating, crime in Davao City has mushroomed ten times faster than the population. That’s not surprising, since contempt for the law breeds further lawlessness.

Moreover, once the police start playing God, the temptation becomes enormous for them to expand the class of victims. Today, the city’s supposed low-life; tomorrow, political or personal enemies. As Latin America of the 1980s showed, the business of death squads can consume a country, creating an environment where no one is safe.

So it is time for the Philippine government to move beyond unconvincing denials. President Arroyo took a first step this month by ordering the police to “get to the bottom” of vigilante killings. Her powerful executive secretary, Eduardo Ermita, added that “criminality is a social malaise that can never be remedied by such executions,” which he called “illegal” and “immoral.” The test now will be whether the Philippine government takes these strong statements to heart and launches vigorous investigations and prosecutions of those behind this murderous plague.

Kenneth Roth is the executive director of Human Rights Watch.

[url]http://www.feer.com/politics/2009/may56/Death-Squads-A-Murderous-Plague[/url]

kenneth roth should send his daughter to walk through paris, new york, berlin, london, etc at 3 in the morning. she would be raped and robbed. 100% sure. why do the west keep on pointing finger to asia?

there is no evidence that an increase in crime rate has anything to do with this kind of way of dealing with the scum and druggies. this "conclusion" is only made because the rest of roths "report" is just based on his personal view of how the world should work. f*ck the so called democratic ways where normal people have to lock them self in their prisons (barred apartments), old people can not even walk the street in broad daylight and teenagers have robbery and beating up people as a hobby.

if we, like good utilitarianists, look at the “accumulated bad” in each system we can only come to the conclusion that roth should focus on his own neighbourhood instead of clinging to his colonial attitudes towards asia. that train left many decades ago, so forget about teaching the rest of the world how to live! asia will eat europe and us the coming 20 years and i know where i will be.

who is roth to criticise duterte when he is documented as being one of the worlds most popular leaders for a city,area or country ever? asia works for a large number of the "normal population" - more that most western countries can say about their left wing democratic melt downs.

barba

As usual, a single article does not convey an in-depth understanding of the situation here, and to do so would probably take all of the bandwidth available on this forum. Though what's said in the article is largely indisputable, it's important to put the issue of summary executions into a much larger social and historical context as illustrated by the following two points:

1. Prior to the ascension of the current local administration in Davao, the city was dangerous, crime-ridden, and destitute. It attracted little investment, was poorly managed, and a volatile, unsafe place to live. Since the current administration has taken over, the city has become totally safe, and is attracting enormous investments that in turn are creating jobs and enhancing the overall quality of life for local residents. The justice system of the country is utterly corrupt and ineffective, and the alleged death squads are a testament to such ineffectiveness. The fact is that those who get killed are those who would otherwise plague the citizenry, threatening to return to city to its prior state.

2. The problem is not unique to Davao or even to Mindanao. This is an extremely violent country, and disputes of all kinds tend to get settled with guns. Davao has gained notoriety in this area only because the Mayor makes no apologies for his approach to law and order while other, less forthright politicians hide behind the veil of circumlocution and lies.

For me, the bottom line is that Davao has become an excellent place to live. It's clean; it's safe; it's relatively uncongested and, in in relation to other places in the country, it's booming economically. Part of the reason that the city has begun to attract so much investment is that it's perceived as a stable, safe region in which to do business.

GE

Are there places like Sunflower and Juliana in Davao.

I will be in Cebu for 6 months. I figure I will get bored in the 4 month.

Is it worth the trip I love live music and discos?

Thanks

[quote=barba]kenneth roth should send his daughter to walk through paris, new york, berlin, london, etc at 3 in the morning. she would be raped and robbed. 100% sure. why do the west keep on pointing finger to asia?

barba[/quote]you better get your facts straight before talking like this. i suggest you do some cross dressing and test your assertion. but that would assume that you wanted to be taken seriously. sorry for the strong language, but you asked for it.
for those who have a heart for killers of children: i guess as long as it is good for business and the company you work for, anything goes, right?

my last visit to davao was nice. i was however appalled at the living condition of those homeless children. maybe some investment in shelters rather than guns would be in place. before some smart ass offers a different view: i did contribute.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]As usual, a single article does not convey an in-depth understanding of the situation here ... GE[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the feedback. I've never been to Davao, but have been reading the forum because, if I'm not mistaken, there are (or were) direct flights from Taiwan, where I'm based. Anyway, balance between the article and feedback jibes with what I've seen throughout Southeast Asia. Benevolent dictatorship usually turns out to be the best form of government. (Singapore is a good example.) I'm certain all of Phils would do best with an all-powerful, intelligent, and benevolent dictator. Only someone with that level of control can get at the root of so many problems. And hold his own against the Catholic Church, which is outright evil, in my view. Good for Davao, that they may have found something resembling a local equivalent.

Just be careful when the current police chief is replaced, or the death squads go rogue. This form of governmental control attracts all sorts of characters, and can turn sour in the wrong hands.

[QUOTE=Houziwang]Thanks for the feedback. I've never been to Davao, but have been reading the forum because, if I'm not mistaken, there are (or were) direct flights from Taiwan, where I'm based. Anyway, balance between the article and feedback jibes with what I've seen throughout Southeast Asia. Benevolent dictatorship usually turns out to be the best form of government. (Singapore is a good example.) I'm certain all of Phils would do best with an all-powerful, intelligent, and benevolent dictator. Only someone with that level of control can get at the root of so many problems. And hold his own against the Catholic Church, which is outright evil, in my view. Good for Davao, that they may have found something resembling a local equivalent.

Just be careful when the current police chief is replaced, or the death squads go rogue. This form of governmental control attracts all sorts of characters, and can turn sour in the wrong hands.[/QUOTE]
Well said, and of course you're correct. So far though, the situation appears to remain under control. As to the replacement of the Mayor, no worries. His daughter will likely replace him. Remember too the dynastic nature of politics here. Offices get passed around like appetizers at a cocktail party, with the tray going from father or mother to son or daughter...no newcomers need apply.

GE

as ge mentions. discussing the full extent of this would take up far more bandwidth than it deserves. ok, i was exaggerating a bit but let us just say that the ones that like western cities filled with crime and drugs can stay there, and the rest of us can visit asia.

singapore is, as mentioned, a great example of what can be achieved when humanity in some cases is put aside for the best of the majority. did it never amaze you that these crimes are often executed in western societies where everyone have money? no one needs to kick anyone in the face for a cell phone. it is just done because people are sick and free to do whatever they want. it is not crimes related to survival, but crimes related to drugs, inflated egos or just plain boredom and depression.

i unfortunately spent most of my life in western cities so i am not totally lost when it comes to the saturday night scumbags scouting the streets for victims. why don't you visit amsterdam as a good example where freedom and liberalism has had a decade or two to prove it's colors? the bar owners are all armed since the crack addicts routinely try to mug them or their customers while the legal system is just doing. correct. nothing as always!

i am no florence nightingale but have contributed way more than most visitors to the needing in davao. this was done thanks to the climate for companies and visitors that duterte created. so just pointing finger at the absolute harshest part of his policy is like focusing on the mosquitoes while the elephants slip by.

the horrible living condition of those homeless children is not because of the guns, but because of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] western countries have been a part of for 400 years. the guns are not that expensive and their presense allows some of us to come back and reinvest. this is not about killing children, this is about creating a working society that allows me and other to invest and create wealth, also for locals. a win-win situation.

but for gods sake. be my guest and stay in europe/us and point finger to asia. twenty more years and that will be the the only thing the degenerated europeans and americans can afford.

regards,

barba

We've probably done this topic to death and I apologize for prolonging the death throes, but there remain a couple of comments I want to make.

Virtually all of the problems in the Philippines are attributable to the overwhelming poverty and to the corruption that is its breeding ground. All of the myriad social problems can be traced back ultimately to this root cause. The sad fact here is that it's not in the interest of politicians and the feudal lords who run the place to alleviate the conditions which allow them to engorge themselves continuously and to perpetuate themselves in power forever. The odds on a young, impoverished Filipino rising about his station in life through dint of talent, hard work and creative energy are extraordinarily small, which is why so many intelligent young people will do whatever they can to get the hell out to where there are actual opportunities.

In Davao at least, there's an overt, successful attempt to create a working civil society from the maelstrom that is most of the rest of the country. One can perhaps criticize the means by which this is being done, but with so few alternative mechanisms available, I'm not really sure what other viable options there may be.Without meaning to be condescending, you really do have to either live here, or to have spent quite a bit of time here to understand.

Situations such as those that prevail in Amsterdam are, in my opinion, what happens when civil society confuses freedom with license, and most social control is loosened to the extent that the right of the public gets sacrificed to the rights of individuals.

Just my two pesos on the state of the world.

GE

I was reading the posts about poverty in Davao, and in the Philippines. Very few people understand what poverty is about, and what causes it. Most blame the wicked west for sucking the poor places dry.

There are three primary drivers of poverty. The first is endemic corruption. The second is unstable government. The third is an ineffective land administration system.

Endemic corruption causes poverty because it means that the decisions on award of contracts etc are not based on best value, but on who pays most. Mahatir Mohammad in Malaysia solved this problem by charging everyone ten percent. Of course the really corrupt senior politicians like GMA also suck very large amounts of money out of the economy.

Unstable government causes corruption because it means that investors won't invest unless they are sure that their business will remain.

Ineffective land administration causes poverty because when the system is like that in the Phils, title is not assured, then banks will not lend against property to leverage wealth. In developed countries, about 80% of the total wealth of the country lies in the value of property owned.

If any one of these exists in a country, then there will be poverty. In the Phils, there is all three. And the politicians will not change the systems because it is not in their interest.

Gangles

[quote=barba]as ge mentions. discussing the full extent of this would take up far more bandwidth than it deserves. ok, i was exaggerating a bit but let us just say that the ones that like western cities filled with crime and drugs can stay there, and the rest of us can visit asia.

singapore is, as mentioned, a great example of what can be achieved when humanity in some cases is put aside for the best of the majority. did it never amaze you that these crimes are often executed in western societies where everyone have money? no one needs to kick anyone in the face for a cell phone. it is just done because people are sick and free to do whatever they want. it is not crimes related to survival, but crimes related to drugs, inflated egos or just plain boredom and depression.

i unfortunately spent most of my life in western cities so i am not totally lost when it comes to the saturday night scumbags scouting the streets for victims. why don't you visit amsterdam as a good example where freedom and liberalism has had a decade or two to prove it's colors? the bar owners are all armed since the crack addicts routinely try to mug them or their customers while the legal system is just doing. correct. nothing as always!

i am no florence nightingale but have contributed way more than most visitors to the needing in davao. this was done thanks to the climate for companies and visitors that duterte created. so just pointing finger at the absolute harshest part of his policy is like focusing on the mosquitoes while the elephants slip by.

the horrible living condition of those homeless children is not because of the guns, but because of the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] western countries have been a part of for 400 years. the guns are not that expensive and their presense allows some of us to come back and reinvest. this is not about killing children, this is about creating a working society that allows me and other to invest and create wealth, also for locals. a win-win situation.

but for gods sake. be my guest and stay in europe/us and point finger to asia. twenty more years and that will be the the only thing the degenerated europeans and americans can afford.

regards,

barba[/quote]my godness, where have you been? you will have to search for trouble in paris and berlin. if you lucky you might find some skinheads if you really try hard and in paris it takes a ticket to the suburbs to find what you state. i do my walk in north paris and enjoy the nights, berlin is safer than a pi police station. i do not see your increase in danger.

last week in nyc was not bad either. felt fine in manhattan, the real danger were obese women. they slip and fall you're done.

the rambos in davao keep a nice distance from foreigners which i do appreciate. i also walk back to my hotel after that nice show down in my favorite disco on c m recto. never a problem, admitted.

i like a small restaurant (cheap place but ok food) near victoria plaza. the kids in the area live on the waste from macdonalds customers. hunting for left overs from the tables.

i just had returned to town, went to the old place around 9. 30 pm or so. two small kids, brother and sister approached, the girl half naked. well i bought them dinner and the kids were happy to watch tv during dinner. i felt totally helpless with the situation. the girl asked for some dress as she was half naked (3-4 yrs old at best). i arranged with the waiter, who knows me, that she would buy stuff for her the next morning and meet with them up. nothing great i did, just did was my jetlaged mind could figure out. next morning to a small place on the coast where food is best and other nice things happen too. perhaps i should have adopted the two right away. at least my mind would be at peace, which it is not since then.

really bad it got when i read about the murdering of street kids by the davao task force and their killing expeditions to tagum etc. they are not against those criminals (guilty until proven otherwise. easy task with a bullet in the head) but against the poor and those who spoil the nice picture.

in other words, the two small kids are in lethal danger. the davao task force might be welcomed by those who are working locally for the big companies and macro economic analysis (if we may call that apologetic talk this way) might offer some excuses. the basic issue is murder and human rights. these standards are not up for discussion. making qualifications just suggest that some guys have gone 'local'.

by the way, there are some minor issues with some misbehaving teenagers (loud kids) in the small town i like. but that is just their jealousy when i walk by with four pretty girls. no kidding. davao is after all a little tame.

[QUOTE=Barba]Why don't you visit Amsterdam as a good example where freedom and liberalism has had a decade or two to prove it's colors? The bar owners are all armed since the crack addicts routinely try to mug them or their customers while the legal system is just doing. Correct. NOTHING as always![/QUOTE]Im not sure how long you spend in Amsterdam but i lived there for about 30 years. And I think you description of Amsterdam is totally wrong. Sure you can get drugs and mushrooms easy, sure it a liberal country, but no bar owner is armed. Coz one thing is illegal in Amsterdam and that is beineg armed.

The number of robberies of bars is close to zero.

I also visited Phils 5 times already and in most provincies I never felt scared.

I won't comment on the other issues raised.

I'm coming to the Phils next week, staying til late August.

I've decided to spend the first 2+ weeks in Davao, then do a bit of island-hopping and visit Cebu, then back to Davao.

I already have at least 25 girls there who I have contacted through sites, and now have their mobile numbers.

One in particular I will meet the first night I get there seems a guaranteed score, but it seems like she wants to see me whenever she's free. She works til at least 7 every night, 6 days a week, and depending how much I like her in person it might be good to have her as my regular.

But I don't want to limit myself to just this one girl - not looking for a girlfriend as I only separated from my wife a few months ago and just not into the idea of a long-term relationship.

So what I want to know is, what are the options for daytime mongering in Davao?
Do the bar girls work during the day also, what are the massage parlor options and other possibilities?

I'm staying a way out of the city, so I'd also be interested in hearing about short-term hotels in the city that I could use for mongering.

Would appreciate some advice.

Broko it was a long time ago, I admit. Mid 90: s. I am totally un-updated. And perhaps my and my buddies "state of mind" did contribute to us being targeted. And maybe we did search for trouble in the sense that we did not avoid a certain areas (is this actually "searching for trouble"? ). I remember one crack head targeting me and one friend. When we walked in a coffee shop the owner just showed a baseball bat and the annoying crack head went away. When I talked to the bar owner he told me that this was an every day routine since these guys would always try their tricks on tourists.

Twice I experienced that crack heads picked up a piece of plastic, staggered across the street and bumped in to me and "dropped the drugs" and requested me to pay for it. They followed us until we once again got tired of the blabbering and walked in to a coffee shop for a drink.

At one time in A-dam me and my friend was threatened by a man in a madras! Yes, all nude and a foam madras around him. "Give me your money or I'll kill you." I asked him how he would do that. If he would rub the madras on us until we stopped breathing.

Another incident I saw was how a guy, with no embarrassment, was stealing bikes in the middle of the day. About 30 people around. The only one that said anything, including the two catatonic cops 100 meters away, was an old lady leaning out from a window shouting at the young man. The reply from the bike acquiring man did not sound friendly or understanding.

Well I could go on about those incidents I saw in just a few weeks in Amsterdam.

Or about coked up guys in the night life industry (door men as well as visitors), well known teenage gangs robbing 5-10 victims per week end with no direct consequence, bikers living next to the law and retiring at the age of 45, various crime families or constellations inventing debts to people, east Europeans scouting residential areas for houses to break in to (and they do get broken in to), etc. All in societies where this is not really required to survive or feed your infant baby. In my opinion it is out of hand. No real consequence and this invites people to keep f*cking up the life of ordinary citizens.

This is quite an interesting study. Some years old, but still it indicates that some of the riches democratic countries have an unreasonably high crime rate. [url]http://www.unodc.org/pdf/crime/eighthsurvey/8sv. Pdf[/url]

I have been in many weird places all over the world and, if my recollection is correct, the only places someone ever tried to rob me was in the Mexico, US, Amsterdam, east London, Copenhagen and Milano. And some other super lame attempts in Europe. And once in a rough place in Venezuela when the light went out in a bar and I just had to take a leak (stupid I know). I never handed over a cent but the pure fact that people try indicates that there is a lack of motivation to stay on the narrow road.

I have off course been robbed by the government as well, but then it is called progressive taxation and double taxation. LOL. When it comes to "recreational violence" I would imagine Scandinavia is extreme. Fights would be a regular part of the weekend fun for many teenagers, and even amongst adults the atmosphere is quite often very tense. Men with inflated egos, to much alcohol/drugs in their blood and no sex fight it out after 3 when all bars are closed. Hell they have every reason to be depressed and beat each other up. Beats another Saturday wank off in your depressive two room shoe box.

I moved around in the so called toughest areas in Davao, and never ever did anyone even omit the "sir" when talking to me. Sure they might bend their backs due to fear of Duterte and due to a history of being occupied, but I still prefer this to what I most likely would face in Neukölln or Clichy-sous-Bois.

I am biased by my infatuation for Asia and judge western society to hard. I should not make comments about places I did not visit recently, but I still find it amazing that so many in the west believe themselves to have so much to teach Asia, and yet Asia has been functioning as societies for so long. Pure luck?

I did not know that Dutertes death squad kills children. No sane person supports this, of course. Neither do I.

Guitar man, if you look at the reports of distinction covering Davao you will read about Plaza Roman, mall hunting, short term hotels, etc. The solution to your day time mongering is all there just waiting for you to find it.

Ok, time to hit the road so over and out from Barba for a while.

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Hmmm. if you go by the lack of contributions to this page you'd think that not too much happens in Davao..lol

Anyway, for what it's worth an update on my mongering of recent. I have been back this time nearly two months and have found an exceptionally beautiful, just turned 18, live in gf....who always wants to fuck....

Tall, athletic, perfect tits and a pussy at the beginning..so tight it was like fucking a virgin everyday.....

Anyway, the hectic rate of 'relationship' fucking has settled down and I now have surplus for extra short time fun...

Again, met lots of girls on-line and have fucked about 8 of them.....

I also passed through Manila on the way here and spent 2 nights fucking P4P ..I dont know why I bothered.......no challenge and I dont care what anyone says, a bargirl's pussy has had literally miles and miles of cock through it....doesn't compare to the non professional and willing girls that are so easy to meet.

Im trying to limit myself to one extra encounter per week but haven't been successful..averaging about 2....

Davao is a really great place for mongering.......

GE, sorry to put the business out in the street but I've been trying to contact you, your mail box is likely as full as mine, can you give me a PM
need to discuss something private like.

Thankx

Spamhog

[QUOTE=Gangles]I was reading the posts about poverty in Davao, and in the Philippines. Very few people understand what poverty is about, and what causes it. Most blame the wicked west for sucking the poor places dry.

There are three primary drivers of poverty. The first is endemic corruption. The second is unstable government. The third is an ineffective land administration system.

Endemic corruption causes poverty because it means that the decisions on award of contracts etc are not based on best value, but on who pays most. Mahatir Mohammad in Malaysia solved this problem by charging everyone ten percent. Of course the really corrupt senior politicians like GMA also suck very large amounts of money out of the economy.

Unstable government causes corruption because it means that investors won't invest unless they are sure that their business will remain.

Ineffective land administration causes poverty because when the system is like that in the Phils, title is not assured, then banks will not lend against property to leverage wealth. In developed countries, about 80% of the total wealth of the country lies in the value of property owned.

If any one of these exists in a country, then there will be poverty. In the Phils, there is all three. And the politicians will not change the systems because it is not in their interest.

Gangles[/QUOTE]Agreed, good estimate of the situation.

I can add one more reason for poverty in the Phillipines.

The first is their annual growth rate of population, almost 3 %!

This means that the population of the country roughly will double in 25 years from 90 million to 180 million. When you add the fact that the country cannot produce enough food now for the 88 million living there then you can maybe see a disaster in the future and at least poverty for long, long years to come.

Anyone know where I can rent a furnished apartment in Davao. What is the approximate cost? Will be in Phils. for a month. Don't want to stay at the relatives and don't want to spend a fortune on hotels.

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Anyone know where I can rent a furnished apartment in Davao. What is the approximate cost? Will be in Phils. for a month. Don't want to stay at the relatives and don't want to spend a fortune on hotels.[/QUOTE]
There are a few alternatives you might try. I suggest Red Knight Garden in Guadelope Village, since it's got efficiencies, as well as one, two and (I think) three bedroom apartments, plus a small pool, decent grounds and an acceptable, if somewhat small restaurant. You can get an efficiency there for about $15-$16 a night for a monthly rental, and I do not know the cost of the other, larger apartments.

There's also a place called Drifters, that has only efficiencies. It's got an even smaller pool and an English pub. It's a bit further north than Red Knight, but it's newer and I have friends who stay there nine months at a time and love the place.

There's also a place called White Mansions on Bakaka Rd. It has a pool as well, and I know someone who stayed there for years, but I've never been inside the place so I really don't know.

GE

You have hundreds of options in Davao. I bum around just to check places out, and find many good option for less than 1000 peso a day. Many of them never mentioned on ISG. My number one priority is privacy. I do not want 10 pair of eyes staring me down and I do not want to become friends with the staff. Neither do I need wannabe_five_star_European_standards_staff. They never get it right anyway, and the formalities just annoys me. No I am not a perverted creep, I just save the fancy places fro wife and stay in these relaxed privacy-options when I am on my own.

Besides GE: s info, Casa Ruby is also an option. They have a couple of houses and one studio type option. Last I checked they where 45 000 peso a month for their big apartments, including Smart Internet connection. A bit over the top in my opinion, if you looking for a budget option.

[url]http://casarubydavao.com/[/url]

I stayed in their house and that means no privacy. Sort of awkward to bang a 8 month pregnant teen all over the room, and then sneak her out the next day.

One good place for finding cheap apartments is here: [url]www.davaosale.com[/url].

You can get cheap rooms at C5 dormitel. Not so bad considered the price and very private when I stayed there. Close to Marco Polo.

082-2286186, [email]c5dormitel[at]yahoo.com[/email]

You can also try this one: [email]terraromana[at]yahoo.com[/email]. Nice apartments in Bajada. Furnished and unfurnished. Price ranging from 10 000 and up, depending on furnishing and how long you rent for.

Regards from Barba (back in Davao in a couple of days)

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[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Anyone know where I can rent a furnished apartment in Davao. What is the approximate cost? Will be in Phils. for a month. Don't want to stay at the relatives and don't want to spend a fortune on hotels.[/QUOTE]Hi Tungsten,

I have looked at this myself. I did not end up doing it in Davao because i just found the city too boring. But i remember looking on google and found a lot of nice houses and apartments for very cheap.

My opinion is book into a hotel you can be comfortable in for 2-3 days. Spend several days visiting and checking the place out before you ever make your decision. I think the rule of thumb for the Philippines is dont pay for anything until you have inspected the merchandise.

Tower Inn I always enjoyed as well and good option. Its about P1000 a night and about P850 for small single bed if you really a cheapo. I consider Tower Inn in Davao the best hotel accomadations/location/ and comfort that money can buy in Philippines for the P1000 rate. Its near down town and about 3 blocks fom Doctors Hospital and about 5 minute walk to Peaples Park. Its on the main Street as well. Surprisingly they Have a Tower Inn in Pasay City which I do NOT recommend. Yes of course its girl friendly as well.

Thanks to all for the replies regarding apartments. I'm going to be with my wife, son, and the helper. I'm willing to dish out a few bucks for a decent place. Not over 40, 000p though. Anyone famaliar with the Rosal Apartelle?

G. E.: The Red Knight Gardens. Do they rent just rooms or do they have monthly occupancy? I checked out the website and seen rates per day. Nothing per month unless I didn't see the other links.

Tower Inn was horrible in my opinion, but maybe I got there on the bad attitude and shit-smell-day. Location is good, I agree.

Red Knight will give you a monthly quotation. A few percentages less than normal rate. If your looking at up to 40K I would absolutely advice you to take a less established option than those monger holes. RKG is perhaps not the place I would take my family, but then again maybe I was there the wrong day. Hell, you can get a newly built condo for 30-35K a month.
princess_qj[at]yahoo.com have some various option. One suite in Bajada and some condos out towards Ecoland. Nice fenced areas with various distractions such as pool, tennis, basket, etc.

Just as a reference, I had a two bed room apartment with kitchen and bathroom for 6500 peso a month. It was not a bad place. Not fance, but clean and efficient. I left it because the land lord was extremely curious and I did not feel I had any privacy. And I wanted to see something new. Just time to move on sometimes. I am sure you know what I mean.

Good luck in your search.

Barba

[QUOTE=Tungsten Chef]Thanks to all for the replies regarding apartments. I'm going to be with my wife, son, and the helper. I'm willing to dish out a few bucks for a decent place. Not over 40, 000p though. Anyone famaliar with the Rosal Apartelle?

G. E.: The Red Knight Gardens. Do they rent just rooms or do they have monthly occupancy? I checked out the website and seen rates per day. Nothing per month unless I didn't see the other links.[/QUOTE]
Red Knight offers weekly, monthly and yearly rates as well. I have a friend and colleague who has been living there for two years. I am not familiar with the Rosal Apartelle. Where is it located? I've never heard of it, which means nothing really, as the only apartments with which I'm familiar are those in which friends and acquaintances have stayed.

The Php40,000 you cite in your post is about $850 which would work out to about $28 a day. Assuming that you want a two bedroom place if you're accommodating four people, that's probably somewhat on the low side, though you might be able to get one at Red Knight for that amount.

Barba, I just sent you a PM with my new private number. Give me a call if you want to get together again for some food and wine.

I just glanced at Barba's assessment of the Tower Inn and decided to edit this post. I agree completely with him; the place is a hole. Dragon Slayer stayed there once for a single night several years ago when he could not find any alternatives. He said he had what they told him was the best room in the place, equipped with a small bed, cement floor and a TV that he said looked like it had been there for 30 years.

GE

For the first time in a long time, I had dinner at Swiss Deli with some friends. Since the place is about a 5 minute walk from my office and I probably eat lunch there three days a week, I do not normally consider it as a place to have dinner. However, the Davao Kidayawan festival starts tonight and I assumed the downtown area around Henny's and Claude's would be a nightmare, so we decided to eat north of the downtown areas where there would be less congestion.

I had the mixed grill: a combination of small portions of bacon, chicken, pork, sausage, and mashed potatoes and most of a bottle of Bordeaux Superieur. All in all, it was quite good (particularly the wine). The service was prompt, without being hurried, and the food was quite acceptable. As the upstairs was crowded, and we had a group of nine, we ate downstairs in the wine cellar, and we had our own dedicated waitress. I think the entire bill for the nine of us, excluding the wine, was Php2,200, or less than $5 a person, which by any standard is pretty reasonable. Even with the wine at another Php1,000, it was hardly excessive.

This was the second time today that I had eaten there since I met Xman for lunch in the outdoor smoking area (I smoke but Xman does not) earlier in the day. It's always good to see X, and we had not seen each other for more than a year.

GE

[QUOTE=Huis Wijn]Agreed, good estimate of the situation.

I can add one more reason for poverty in the Phillipines.

The first is their annual growth rate of population, almost 3 %!

This means that the population of the country roughly will double in 25 years from 90 million to 180 million. When you add the fact that the country cannot produce enough food now for the 88 million living there then you can maybe see a disaster in the future and at least poverty for long, long years to come.[/QUOTE]For the expats who are living there, because I'm thinking of retiring there, I have heard horror stories about the PI, like how they dynamite reefs for fishing, how is the

Crime/Safety in Davao?

Any good shore-based or in-shore saltwater fishing on the coast of Davao?

Been busy getting work related things in order and didn't realize my handle had been mentioned here at the Davao thread.

I'll try to report more on Davao later, but I don't have much that's new.

GE, as usual, was an interesing lunch partner, providing wit, humor, and a wealth of information about Davao and CDO.

Oh, Davao doesn't allow smoking inside, so you should definetly start a heavy smoking habit if you want to have a conversation with GE for more than five minutes. Swiss Grill has a special section for smokers.

GE, glad to see you looking slim and trim and healthy and happy. Sorry I couldn't make it to your evening event. Hope you didn't have the same waitress as we had for lunch!

X
[QUOTE=GoodEnough]For the first time in a long time, I had dinner at Swiss Deli with some friends. Since the place is about a 5 minute walk from my office and I probably eat lunch there three days a week, I do not normally consider it as a place to have dinner. However, the Davao Kidayawan festival starts tonight and I assumed the downtown area around Henny's and Claude's would be a nightmare, so we decided to eat north of the downtown areas where there would be less congestion.

I had the mixed grill: a combination of small portions of bacon, chicken, pork, sausage, and mashed potatoes and most of a bottle of Bordeaux Superieur. All in all, it was quite good (particularly the wine). The service was prompt, without being hurried, and the food was quite acceptable. As the upstairs was crowded, and we had a group of nine, we ate downstairs in the wine cellar, and we had our own dedicated waitress. I think the entire bill for the nine of us, excluding the wine, was Php2,200, or less than $5 a person, which by any standard is pretty reasonable. Even with the wine at another Php1,000, it was hardly excessive.

This was the second time today that I had eaten there since I met Xman for lunch in the outdoor smoking area (I smoke but Xman does not) earlier in the day. It's always good to see X, and we had not seen each other for more than a year.

GE[/QUOTE]

I agree about the four/five-star fake politeness. Shouting a greeting to me in the hallway strikes me as extrordinarily rude to the people who may want to be sleeping or relaxing in their rooms. I just smile in reply.

Of course I agree with everything that Barba says, except for the part where he says, "No, I am not a perverted creep".

X

[QUOTE=Barba]You have hundreds of options in Davao. I bum around just to check places out, and find many good option for less than 1000 peso a day. Many of them never mentioned on ISG. My number one priority is privacy. I do not want 10 pair of eyes staring me down and I do not want to become friends with the staff. Neither do I need wannabe_five_star_European_standards_staff. They never get it right anyway, and the formalities just annoys me. No I am not a perverted creep, I just save the fancy places fro wife and stay in these relaxed privacy-options when I am on my own.

Besides GE: s info, Casa Ruby is also an option. They have a couple of houses and one studio type option. Last I checked they where 45 000 peso a month for their big apartments, including Smart Internet connection. A bit over the top in my opinion, if you looking for a budget option.

[url]http://casarubydavao.com/[/url]

I stayed in their house and that means no privacy. Sort of awkward to bang a 8 month pregnant teen all over the room, and then sneak her out the next day.

One good place for finding cheap apartments is here: [url]www.davaosale.com[/url].

You can get cheap rooms at C5 dormitel. Not so bad considered the price and very private when I stayed there. Close to Marco Polo.

082-2286186, [email]c5dormitel[at]yahoo.com[/email]

You can also try this one: [email]terraromana[at]yahoo.com[/email]. Nice apartments in Bajada. Furnished and unfurnished. Price ranging from 10 000 and up, depending on furnishing and how long you rent for.

Regards from Barba (back in Davao in a couple of days)

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[QUOTE=Gangles]I was reading the posts about poverty in Davao, and in the Philippines. Very few people understand what poverty is about, and what causes it. Most blame the wicked west for sucking the poor places dry.

There are three primary drivers of poverty. The first is endemic corruption. The second is unstable government. The third is an ineffective land administration system.

Endemic corruption causes poverty because it means that the decisions on award of contracts etc are not based on best value, but on who pays most. Mahatir Mohammad in Malaysia solved this problem by charging everyone ten percent. Of course the really corrupt senior politicians like GMA also suck very large amounts of money out of the economy.

Unstable government causes corruption because it means that investors won't invest unless they are sure that their business will remain.

Ineffective land administration causes poverty because when the system is like that in the Phils, title is not assured, then banks will not lend against property to leverage wealth. In developed countries, about 80% of the total wealth of the country lies in the value of property owned.

If any one of these exists in a country, then there will be poverty. In the Phils, there is all three. And the politicians will not change the systems because it is not in their interest.

Gangles[/QUOTE]I have always wondered about Poverty and the dynamics of 3rd world nations. Yes, as a Westerner visiting the country you are considered RICH. But, how rich are you?

Yes, it is a poor country, I think the presence of Wealthy Phillipinos and also foreigners do drive the prices up. In America, the minimum wage is appx $60/day. To get FS with a non-skank 20-30 year old street provider costs $60. One day's wages for one lay. (This is for 30-60 minutes of her time). Most are ugly skanks, but if you look long enough, you can find a pretty decent looking one.

In the PI, the average wage is $2/day. Yet the price of FS with an amateur from the street is 500PHP = $10. This is 5 times the daily wage. Granted in the PI you get 90 - 120 minutes for the payment and it is with a younger woman 18-25 who is certainly more attractive than our american SWs. In the PI, the 500PHP includes a "foreigners price premium," I think I read that the local price is 200-300PHP.

Fact: The wealthy elite get all the money, in fact, the wealthy in PI are wealthier than your average American. He who has the money, has all the pvssy. So wouldn't the wealthy Phillipinos suck up the most attractive Pinays and leave those of us who are less wealthy with the leftovers?

[QUOTE=Water Boy]Fact: The wealthy elite get all the money, in fact, the wealthy in PI are wealthier than your average American. He who has the money, has all the pvssy. So wouldn't the wealthy Phillipinos suck up the most attractive Pinays and leave those of us who are less wealthy with the leftovers?[/QUOTE]
The "wealthy elite" in the Philippines constitutes a very, very small percentage of the population, and a huge percentage of that small percentage is concentrated in Manila. I wouldn't worry about them sucking up "the most attractive Pinays..." There simple aren't enough of them. There are basically three classes of elites: the Spanish-descended Filipinos and the Chinese-Filipinos. Both of these groups possess enormous inherited wealth. Then, there are the politicians, who regard all public transactions and public resources as personal property to be used for their own gain.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough] Then, there are the politicians, who regard all public transactions and public resources as personal property to be used for their own gain.
GE[/QUOTE]Hmmm ... the last set of elites sounds like the USA

All kidding aside: Thanks, GE, I appreciate your insight on this.

[QUOTE=Water Boy]Hmmm ... the last set of elites sounds like the USA

All kidding aside: Thanks, GE, I appreciate your insight on this.[/QUOTE]
Trust me on this, it's nothing at all like the US. Having worked/visited/lived in more than 50 countries, I've concluded that this is the most corrupt I've ever seen.
GE

Can someone recommend a good Open Water Dive Course in the Davao area? I'm gonna have some time on my hands this trip so I think I'll get certified. Diving during the day...Muff diving during the evening! Who could ask for a better vacation?

Yella Man

I'm confused - as is often the case... The doctor tells me it is NOT alzheimers...but tells me to drink less.

I thought the topic was poverty and it's causes! How do we go from there to "the presence of wealthy Pilipinos and also foreigners drive the prices up"...of sx workers?

Dang, I hate it the way those wealthy Pilipinos do that.

? Wait, if these elite are a drag on the economy, as we suspect they are, they are not driving UP the price of sx workers. Quite the opposite, I would think.

I have no reason to celebrate the poverty in the Philippines - it is sometimes a very shocking thing. But as long as it exists, I will enjoy my holidays there, confident that my spending is helping the economy.

Maybe that is the next topic. If the primary reason for many people to visit is that everything is cheap (and they can score easily), is that part of the solution or part of the problem?

X

[QUOTE=Water Boy]I have always wondered about Poverty and the dynamics of 3rd world nations. Yes, as a Westerner visiting the country you are considered RICH. But, how rich are you?

Yes, it is a poor country, I think the presence of Wealthy Phillipinos and also foreigners do drive the prices up. In America, the minimum wage is appx $60/day. To get FS with a non-skank 20-30 year old street provider costs $60. One day's wages for one lay. (This is for 30-60 minutes of her time). Most are ugly skanks, but if you look long enough, you can find a pretty decent looking one.

In the PI, the average wage is $2/day. Yet the price of FS with an amateur from the street is 500PHP = $10. This is 5 times the daily wage. Granted in the PI you get 90 - 120 minutes for the payment and it is with a younger woman 18-25 who is certainly more attractive than our american SWs. In the PI, the 500PHP includes a "foreigners price premium," I think I read that the local price is 200-300PHP.

Fact: The wealthy elite get all the money, in fact, the wealthy in PI are wealthier than your average American. He who has the money, has all the pvssy. So wouldn't the wealthy Phillipinos suck up the most attractive Pinays and leave those of us who are less wealthy with the leftovers?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE= Wait, if these elite are a drag on the economy, as we suspect they are, they are not driving UP the price of sx workers. Quite the opposite, I would think.

I have no reason to celebrate the poverty in the Philippines. But as long as it exists, I will enjoy my holidays there, confident that my spending is helping the economy.

Maybe that is the next topic. If the primary reason for many people to visit is that everything is cheap and they can score easily, is that part of the solution or part of the problem?X[/QUOTE]

X Man

Very droll. Glad to see you provide quality insight and not quantity. Hope your holiday activities are similarly motivated ? How much do you inject into their economy and what is the best or most productive stimulus package ?

ET

How many pseudonyms do you need? You were rarely humerous with the first identity, so why stretch it thinner and thinner?

X

[QUOTE=Eric Tile]X Man

Very droll. Glad to see you provide quality insight and not quantity. Hope your holiday activities are similarly motivated ? How much do you inject into their economy and what is the best or most productive stimulus package ?

ET[/QUOTE]

x man, i just now stumbled upon your comment:

of course i agree with everything that barba says, except for the part where he says, "no, i am not a perverted creep".

lol, you have me seen through my attempts to fake a normal facade behind a family and a normal job.

speaking of perverted. i have (had) this one girl on the team who is 5 months pregnant now. she has a shitty attitude but keeps on referring to herself as my gf. one of those girls that rarely smiles and think this is normal. orders tons of food from room service and pigs away. still pretty and elegant when you see her, so quite a contrast to hear her oink away on a bowl of chicken. she claimed to have been raped by her cousins friend; hence the pregnancy. yea right. "are you mad at me honey? " "does it matter, since i pay to fuck you anyway? " well, in her world she is my gf. i could not help myself but to tell her that a real gf takes the load in her mouth and plays with it before she swallows. maybe mean but i was tired, hung over and a bit annoyed at her constant nagging about extra money for this and that. however no improvement in her attitude, even though sperm is supposed to be rich in folic acid and proteins. or was it the other way around? folic acid is good for the swimming team? i forgot, but either way she just got worse after taking a facial. grumpy and demanding. still loves me and still text me 10 times a day. but has this aura of negative energy around her. and i found some nasty wart looking thing close to her lower lips. not a winning combination.

her sister married some rich gloomy, miserable japanese fart (that i met once), so i guess she has seen what a real pro needs to endure. facials and then some. and she is prepared to sell out as well for a new cell phone and a life where she never has to lift a finger.

i decided never to put my dick anywhere in her again. even deleted her number and ym not to get tempted to call her in after a bucket of morning beers at cogot. now tell me isn't that normal?

all the best from barba

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Can someone recommend a good Open Water Dive Course in the Davao area? I'm gonna have some time on my hands this trip so I think I'll get certified. Diving during the day...Muff diving during the evening! Who could ask for a better vacation?

Yella Man[/QUOTE]Around St Anna wharf you have 3 dive shops. They all offer this package.

Wind and water I had the most to do with. Just as you enter the gate of St Anna wharf, you look to your right.

Barba

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Can someone recommend a good Open Water Dive Course in the Davao area? I'm gonna have some time on my hands this trip so I think I'll get certified. Diving during the day...Muff diving during the evening! Who could ask for a better vacation?

Yella Man[/QUOTE]1 1/2 years back went to Camiguin and I got re-certified and a family member did the open water course. She had the manual and the DVD in advance and then completed the course in 2.5 days. We stayed right by the dive shop at Secret Cove. PM me for more details, a bit of a hike from Davao, and you would be advised to bring a gal.

Camiguin is one of the nicest places in the Philippines

[QUOTE=Barba]Around St Anna wharf you have 3 dive shops. They all offer this package.

Wind and water I had the most to do with. Just as you enter the gate of St Anna wharf, you look to your right.

Barba[/QUOTE]

Thanks B! I just emailed Wind and Water to inquire about cost and length of course because there was nothing on their website about it.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Thanks B! I just emailed Wind and Water to inquire about cost and length of course because there was nothing on their website about it.

Yella Man[/QUOTE]
The best of the three shops is, in my opinion Carabao, from which I've always gotten excellent service. I think the shop owns five boats, so its always got some dive trips going out. Their instructors, as is the case with Wind and Wave, are okay, but only that. The best instructor in Davao is Henny Smits, the owner of De Bonte Koe. He's more expensive, but gives individual lessons and you will be a much, much safer and more knowledgeable diver if you take your course from him. He's ex special forces, and he's PADI certified to teach every course that PADI offers. Some of the dive shops offer courses taught by Dive Masters, not instructors, and this is against PADI regulations. It's also not very safe.

Anyone who wants to know how to contact Henny can PM me and I'm happy to provide his phone number. My strong advice for neophyte divers is not to look for the cheapest route to certification.

GE

I should add that I never contacted WAW for diving. I bought stuff there and talked about renting boats.

GE, don't they also have some diving activity out on Paradise Beach resort? I always see asians in wet suits and with O2 on their back. Normally they stay in the shallow waters it seems.

Barba

Thanks GE! Let me look at some options first before I move on your recommendation.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Barba]I should add that I never contacted WAW for diving. I bought stuff there and talked about renting boats.

GE, don't they also have some diving activity out on Paradise Beach resort? I always see asians in wet suits and with O2 on their back. Normally they stay in the shallow waters it seems.

Barba[/QUOTE]
Yes, there's a small dive shop on Paradise. I've rented tanks from them, but the problem there is that at Paradise you're limited to diving immediately offshore, and there's not a lot to see. The dives are relatively shallow and the current is fairly strong, so when you come up you may be hundreds of meters from the beach where you started, and it's exhausting to have to trudge back to the starting point with all your gear. I would not recommend it highly unless you're burning to dive and have no alternatives.

My best diving here has always occurred when a small group of us--maybe ten people--rent a banca for the day and go off ourselves to dive. Virtually all of the dive shops will pack as many people as possible onto a boat, and it's a hassle changing into and out of the gear and then waiting for the boat to collect all of the divers at the end. Plus, unless you're with a friend, you might not find an appropriate dive buddy. Maybe I've gotten more conservative as I've gotten older, but I'm all about safety. I want to know the person with whom I'm diving and I want to have some reasonable confidence in his or her skills. When I was diving a lot, four or five of us would go down together and hang out as a group on the reef.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]My best diving here has always occurred when a small group of us--maybe ten people--rent a banca for the day and go off ourselves to dive. Virtually all of the dive shops will pack as many people as possible onto a boat, and it's a hassle changing into and out of the gear and then waiting for the boat to collect all of the divers at the end. Plus, unless you're with a friend, you might not find an appropriate dive buddy. Maybe I've gotten more conservative as I've gotten older, but I'm all about safety. I want to know the person with whom I'm diving and I want to have some reasonable confidence in his or her skills. GE[/QUOTE]Im a diver my self, GE. This is very good advice & applies everywhere I have dived in the world. Dive shop dives are always rushed/crowded. Lost track of the number of times a dive was ruined for me by being buddied up with somebody who was willfully stupid or completely unconcerned with safety.
Back when I first started, before getting certified diving, a bunch of us friends would organise a boat & a bit of gear & go do the dive. We learned safety & trust 'on the job'. When I certified (PADI 1981, god i feel old hee hee!) it was a shock to be dragged on 'organised' dives - YUCK!

Cheers mate
AV

[QUOTE=Amavida]Back when I first started, before getting certified diving, a bunch of us friends would organise a boat & a bit of gear & go do the dive. We learned safety & trust 'on the job'. When I certified (PADI 1981, god I feel old hee hee! ) it was a shock to be dragged on 'organised' dives. YUCK! [/QUOTE]I am also an avid diver, hence the name Water Boy.

As for private tutoring versus group tutoring: the group tutoring is alot cheaper and just as effective. The only plus with private tutoring is that is it is faster. I got my PADI in group and other training one-on-one. The only plus to one-on-one is that the class moves faster.

I learned to dive before I got my C-Card, just as did Amavida. I think going out on a private boat for your first dive is a pretty risky way to do things, because safety is a bit more lax on the informal dives.

Organized dives CAN BE boring for the experienced diver, yes, but only after your first several dozen organized dives. What AV & GE says is true, but it only applies to experienced divers.

While, personally, I hate cattle boats (organized dives). I know that they are exciting and interesting for a new diver. Don't listen to AV and GE, Yella Man, you should do your first dives on the cattle boats. These are much safer than than the self-chartered excursions, because there is safety in numbers. Plus, consider your first dozen or so organized dives as part of the training process. On the cattle boats, they are very safety conscious and they make sure you follow all the safety rules. This drills the safety rules into your head.

As for shore diving. It is harder to do than boat dives, because you have to fight waves and you get sand in your gear. Plus you have currents to contend with. With boat dive, if you get carried off by the current, at least the boat can come get you. Shore diving usually offers less "pretty things" to see than boat diving. HAving said that, I find myself doing more shore dives lately, because of its simplicity and some great dives. Hold off on shore diving until you get experienced.

GE and AV,

When u go diving in PI - do you see plenty of things of interest for the underwater hunter? Lobster? Snapper? Grouper?

What are the quantities of these creatures? HAve you guys been diving lately?

Well with 24 years of military experience under my belt (retired now), and having been an Army Master Parachutist, I understand the importance of listening to the experts in their field of expertise. I'll go as slow as needed to master all the fine and safe points of diving.

Yella Man

Water Boy, I understand your point, but in the Philippines, or at least in Davao, I don't agree. I've seen how the "group training" works here, and it's often conducted by unqualified trainers (usually Dive Masters, not Instructors), with too few trainers and too many students. Again, in my view, it's unsafe, and I've gone diving with a few of the "products" of such training whose view of buoyancy control seemed to me that it was nice in theory but didn't work in practice. I spent an entire hour-long dive going up and hauling one of of these folks back down to reasonable depth and finally just gave up and held her down for the balance of the dive.

I once saw a single Dive Master here take down five people at once on an exploratory dive. There's no way, had more than one of them gotten in trouble, that he could have attended to them.

Most of the decent diving in and around Davao takes place in Davao Bay, where there are some very nice reef walls. What you tend to see most are lots of tropicals, snakes, the usual lobsters and schools of fish. Sporadically, I've seen tuna, rays, and turtles, but not often. I've had some great drift dives across the faces of the walls at about 20-25M, which is about the ideal depth for diving here. At 30M and below there's not that much to see.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]He's ex special forces, and he's PADI certified to teach every course that PADI offers. Some of the dive shops offer courses taught by Dive Masters, not instructors, and this is against PADI regulations. It's also not very safe.[/QUOTE]

No...he can't teach every course PADI offers...according to PADI Asia Pacific.
And you are right about DM's teaching courses against PADI regulations...but... an instructor signs off on the final paperwork and no one is wiser. Students do not know if they learned correctly as they have nothing to compare it to...it's best to ask around, get recommendations and go with your gut instinct...ask diver's who have been certified and diving for a few years for recommendations.

[QUOTE=Water Boy]GE and AV,When u go diving in PI - do you see plenty of things of interest for the underwater hunter? Lobster? Snapper? Grouper?
What are the quantities of these creatures? HAve you guys been diving lately?[/QUOTE]
Every dive is a good dive! Even on a bad day. Sometimes you will see "quantities of these creatures," and other times no. It does not matter.... cause you can dive another day!!
Sometimes you have good pussy and bbbj's and other times no! But there is always another day!

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Water Boy, I understand your point, but in the Philippines, or at least in Davao, I don't agree. I've seen how the "group training" works here, and it's often conducted by unqualified trainers (usually Dive Masters, not Instructors), with too few trainers and too many students. Again, in my view, it's unsafe, and I've gone diving with a few of the "products" of such training whose view of buoyancy control seemed to me that it was nice in theory but didn't work in practice. I spent an entire hour-long dive going up and hauling one of of these folks back down to reasonable depth and finally just gave up and held her down for the balance of the dive.

I once saw a single Dive Master here take down five people at once on an exploratory dive. There's no way, had more than one of them gotten in trouble, that he could have attended to them.[/QUOTE]GE,

Good point. My comments only apply to dive training in the USA as I do no know anything about training in the PI. As to training recommendations, I will defer to you.

As well, I have not been on an organized dive in the PI, so I hope that the PI is like other countries organized dives. Despite my loathing of cattle boats, I still feel it is a cost-effective and convenient way for Yella Man to get his first dozen or so dives.

I should add that the cattle boats in other countries are less strict about safety than USA. This varies from country to country.

[QUOTE=Ben2]Every dive is a good dive! Even on a bad day. Sometimes you will see "quantities of these creatures, " and other times no. It does not matter. Cause you can dive another day!

Sometimes you have good pussy and BBBJ's and other times no! But there is always another day! [/QUOTE]Thanks Ben2. I heard there are a lot of Phillipina nurses, and it is good to have one around in case I need someone certified in "mouth-to-cock resucitation." I will have to interview many phillipina nurses to find the one who can provide clinical-strength services in this area. I enjoy a post-dive cleaning of my pipes as a medically indicated way for me to delay the onset of the mini-bends.

It has been my experience that a town with good diving means a town with limited pussy. It's tough to go down in the morning and then find a chica to "get down" with in the evening. You must pack your own lunch to these dive towns. Perhaps Davao and Pattaya are exceptions to the rule.

The view from Royal Mandaya Hotel.

Am in Davao for a few days.

If anyone is here drop me a line. Boy the gal at the Galleria Hotel is major cute!

We went tonight, as we do every couple of weeks or so, to Claude's (Cafe de Ville) and, as typically happens whenever we eat there, I reminded myself why I'm willing to spend Php6,000 on dinner for two....to feel coddled, civilized, and at peace. I had the escargot with shirred eggs to start, and she had fettuccine with small clams; I followed with duck a l'orange, and she had some sort of prawns with sauteed potatoes. She had pana cotta, and I had creme brule for desert, followed by coffee and Calvados (courtesy of Claude) with the whole thing washed down by a lovely Sancerre Rouge. The dinner took more than two hours; we dined, rather than ate; the place was full and Claude was turning away lots of people for lack of tables, and it was worth every peso.

Between Cafe de Ville and Farfalla (opened recently by Claude's daughter), there's ample opportunity now in Davao to really dine if that's your thing. I've eaten several times now at Farfalla, most recently Friday for lunch, and, though different than Claude's, it's got a similar very European ambiance. The daughter has learned well from her father and has created a lovely place.

Last week, I had the pleasure of eating at Farfalla with Barba, among others, and he too thoroughly enjoyed the place. Two weeks prior to that, we had dined together at Claude's.

These restaurants are, admittedly, not going to suit everyone's tastes. But for those who crave real French and/or Italian cooking, and who do not mind paying for the nice table cloths, the fresh flowers, the candles, and the intimate atmosphere, these are the places to go.

GE

Yes Farfalla is indeed worth at least one visit every week. Good food, good wine and beauties to rest ones eyes upon. Soon enough the staff will have been trained to not fill the glasses and lift their feet when waking. What a challenge.

The fact that the kitchen stays open until midnight helps. I often like to start my dinner at 9.30-10 PM and by then most other decent places closed.

Great meeting you there the other night GE. Hope I will be back soon for a rerun.

One word of advice: stay away from Pico Bello in Gaisano Suth. Just about everything was wrong. The Styrofoam ball on my pizza did not help the over all impression of this dump. Never again.

Once again I was surprised by the numerous massage places around San pedro and Querino. Surprised since I always perceive Davao as almost_out_of_P4P. As you turn left when coming off San Pedro in the traffic direction you see Ladystar. This fine cockroach (not cock roast) farm is is followed be numerous of more or less sleazy establishments. Some are just barber shops that stay open late and others are full featured Red Horse pushers.

Best from Barba!

[QUOTE=Barba]Once again I was surprised by the numerous massage places around San pedro and Querino. Surprised since I always perceive Davao as almost_out_of_P4P. As you turn left when coming off San Pedro in the traffic direction you see Ladystar. This fine cockroach (not cock roast) farm is is followed be numerous of more or less sleazy establishments. Some are just barber shops that stay open late and others are full featured Red Horse pushers.

Best from Barba![/QUOTE]
Anyone know which massage places are a sure thing during the day? So I don't feel so bad when I don't score with the young 20 something the night before.

I have seen some quite mature females hanging around Ladystar in the afternoon.

On the back of Plaza Roman on Cabagio you have a bunch also before 6 PM. The live there and can accommodate your need for massage just about any time. Ask the guard. They are not so pretty either, but once in a while there can be a hottie. 1000-1500 is what you can expect to pay. 500 if you bargain.

In Hotel Galleria the front desk can arrange erotic massage with a woman they have the number to. I never tried but made an inquiry once.

I advice you to go to any massage place around Gaisano South. Buy a regular massage in the open rooms with many beds and start to joke around about erotic massage. You will notice that one or two of the girl laughs less nervous and look at you a bit longer than the rest. Ask her if she do in call massage to the hotel and get her number.

Do the "now time for the front side"-routine if you get a room with just one bed.
These girls massage on provision and makes only 40-60 peso some days, so if you text them about making 1000 peso many will come in minutes. Quite often the massage is very good and strong as well.

Around Central Bank you have girls from 2-3 hours after the sun sets. STD central many says, and yes many are pretty skanky, but if I am edgy and can not be bothered with one of the regulars I once in a while get a hand job or more from one of the little teens. I do it rarely and the outcome is always the same. They do anything to get off the hook and I get relieved but disappointed. Pinoy rate is 200-500 peso. You can as a white man bargain hard down to 500-700 pesos and 400-500 after 2-3 am, but I never do. Always pay 1000 flat rate and 100-200 tip if she is slightly friendly. Such small amounts makes no difference in the big equation. If they do - stay at home! Mamasan takes up to 60-70% direct and then rent, electricity, water, etc for the shit holes they stay in (I visited one a couple of years ago). I collect their numbers and sometimes call them in during the day for a "massage". 500-1000 direct in their pocket is a lot. You just need to play the "do not tell your mamasan"-game so that she feel safe to come visit you without the mamasan scolding her for not using the mamasan "protection service". The mamasan makes enough anyway and I never cared much for brokers in any form.

Maybe goes without saying but be nice and behave, even if the girl are poor and in bad need of money. A shitty attitude just fuck things up for everyone.

Over all not a very exciting scene for P4P or massage, but a pro can be found any time of the day.

Barba

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[QUOTE=Barba]I have seen some quite mature females hanging around Ladystar in the afternoon.

On the back of Plaza Roman on Cabagio you have a bunch also before 6 PM. The live there and can accommodate your need for massage just about any time. Ask the guard. They are not so pretty either, but once in a while there can be a hottie. 1000-1500 is what you can expect to pay. 500 if you bargain.

thanks Barba,
Good info
I finally hit paydirt with a girl from CB, within 2 hours of picking her up from the the Bus station. 8 hours ride each way, and she was gone the next day. Sweet girl.

Was back in Davao recently and again visited Farfallas, lovely meal (paella, tomato salad), nice ambience and good to meetmy old mate Makhu as well in the city. Been a long time since we met but he is his busy self with a number of cute girls (well I met at least 4).

Also went to Spirale which does excellent pizza IMHO, osso buco and salads.

And I walked around the malls to confirm that there are plenty of beautiful ladies here...I liked the Xmas special gift/prize girls in their Santa mini skirts in Gaisano Mall, worth spending the cash to get a chance of a prize......and a mobile number

Hello! I think best piza you can eat in Grand Regal Hotel.

Is there any girls close to Apo wiew hotell during afternoon and evening? I will stay at that hotell so it would be nice to know. I have read that Apo Wiew offer massage but maybe its just ordinary massage and not erotic? Someone who knows?

Just one more question, are there any gogo or stripclub close to Apo wiew hotel?

Kind regards

Is there any girls close to Apo wiew hotell during afternoon and evening? I will stay at that hotell so it would be nice to know. I have read that Apo Wiew offer massage but maybe its just ordinary massage and not erotic? Someone who knows?

Just one more question, are there any gogo or stripclub close to Apo wiew hotel?

[QUOTE=Anle Anle]Hello! I think best piza you can eat in Grand Regal Hotel.[/QUOTE]
I think the pizza at Spirale is orders of magnitude better than that of the Grand Regal.
GE

It's Apo View.

Streetwalkers and go go dancing exist within walking distance, but it's all a bit hit or miss -- nothing like you find places like Angeles or even Cebu Mango. For more details read back thru the files.

X

[QUOTE=Joppen]Is there any girls close to Apo wiew hotell during afternoon and evening? I will stay at that hotell so it would be nice to know. I have read that Apo Wiew offer massage but maybe its just ordinary massage and not erotic? Someone who knows?

Just one more question, are there any gogo or stripclub close to Apo wiew hotel?[/QUOTE]

Yea, just as X-Man points out they are right outside the door in any direction from Apo.

But as X also points put you should expect to find 10 ower weight and over the hill skanks and 10 tatooed teens with craters in their front teeth, for very 2 sweet hearts. Or rather for THE two sweet harts you will find. Davao does not mean abundance when it comes to P4P in the good old way. But in other ways. ;-)

Barba

Anyone in Davao right now. I'll fly in today. PM me.

Now in Davao. I can't say much for the clubs because I haven't bothered. Initially, my DIA contacts didn't pan out very well - probably because of the holidays.

Street action: as has been reported before you can find it here and there. Victoria Mall parking lot after hours had quite a few -- at least one that I was tempted to take, San Pedro street -- but this tends to be low quality, etc.,

Luckily, I had something really nice in my little black book from a previous visit. She's late 20s and has given birth, but really does her share of the work when it comes to copulation. Also charming, humorous and damn nice to look at. I bought her a bikini and it was well worth the 800 pesos. Oh, and numerous single sisters...I might invite the whole bunch of them to the beach tomorrow.

Hotels: Apo View and Galleria (full reviews only if requested since I've reviewed both in the past two years)

I stayed at Apo view Hotel where on a clear day like today you can see Mt. Apo, the highest mountain in the philippines, as well as the hideous backside of the downtown Gaisano mall. Best reason for staying here is the pool.

Galleria; I like the location and I like the big balcony on the top floor.

X

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I think the pizza at Spirale is orders of magnitude better than that of the Grand Regal.
GE[/QUOTE]
I will second that opinion GE, excellent pizza at Spirale...and if you dont like pizza then plenty of other choices

Flew into Davao from Manila on New Years Day. It sucked being in the air on the 31st, but the payoff once I had arrived was worth it. My ticket on a Cebu Pacific flight cost around P2500...my excess baggage fee was over twice that at P5500! Got in after 6PM, went to the Marco to check in, cracked my bottle of Grey Goose, had a shower, and took a taxi to Plaza Roman. I was too tired to mess with any of my Chat contacts. Dealing with them can be a long and laborious process when your trying to set something up. Plaza Roman was closed, probably due to the holiday. Taxi driver suggested Hot Legs so I went.

Hot Legs is a hole in the wall with about twelve girls dancing. They was a Shower Show going on when I got there. Funny thing is it looked exactly like two girls taking a shower at home! There was nothing sexy about how they where scrubbing there legs. I barely payed attention to it. A couple of girls sat down next too me. Both of them 6's on my scale. Very doable! Small and slim just like I like them. Chatted them up a bit to feel them out. They in turn went immediately for the kill by asking me to buy LD's. I wasn't feeling the love so I told them that I was looking for a girl who really liked to fuck and is not shy at all. I told them that's the girl I'm going to buy a drink for. It was funny to see the expression on their faces, but they shouted to another girl and called her over. Short Slim and about a 7 in looks. Bought her a LD (P300 or so), Chatted her up and was liking her attitude, so I payed her barfine and went back to the Marco. The rest is just about sex and not interesting at all so no need to cover that here....hahaha! Goood damn sex! Will I see her again? Probably on her day off.

GE and X I'm diving during the day, but I'd like to share a few drinks and stories with you guys before I leave. Just PM me.

YM

So I get off the dive boat and turn my phone on. It blows up with texts immediately so I page thru them trying to put the numbers to faces. One chat-mate from DIA tells me she wants to meet me, but she's says she is shy, so she wants me to meet her sister instead. Hmmmm... We dance around her sisters statistics a bit and then agree on a C2C chat on Yahoo Messenger so I can see her before we meet.

Back at the hotel I logon to the internet using my Smart Bro internet USB modem. I paid around p1200 for it at a phone shop in Gaisano Mall. Well worth the price because Marco Polo charges p581 for 24hrs of service. The Smart Bro, after purchase price, charges me p10 for 30 minutes of use. The connection is slow at times but it gets the job done. So anyway I fire up the YM, add her sister to my contacts and begin chatting with her. She pops up on Cam and didn't look half bad so I decided to do her.

I invited her to the Marco for dinner, which we had at the lounge near the pool. I ordered a very strong Long Island Ice Tea mixed drink for her which really took down her defenses and made her like putty in my hands. A few photos by the pool to further relax her and then off to my room for some decent sex. I say decent because although girl #2 had a great personality, she just didn't do it for me in bed like girl #1 did the first night. Her attempt at a BBBJ was basically a cleaning of the surface of my penis with her tongue. She could barely get an inch or so in her mouth. She wasn't a kisser either. Kissing is very important to me. It helps set the mood. Trying to pry her legs apart for some DATY was tough when she kept my head in a scissor lock the whole time. Eventually she relaxed and finally had an orgasm. She had no problems with my size when we started the fucking part of the evening….that part was ok...actually pretty good. I gave her some chocolate and p1500 the next morning and showed her the door. I’ll continue to text her younger sister to see if I can talk her into meeting me. No diving today…hmmmm What’s a man to do with his time? :)

YM

Day 4 was spent running around Gaisano Mall not looking for a pickup, but booking my next stop to CDO at Cebu Pacific and taking care of mobile phone issues. Contacted GE and setup a dinner meet. He suggested Buona Terra on Torres St because they have such good Crepes (does GE have a sweet-tooth?). Met him and his better half at around 7pm and from one look at her I do believe Mr. GE has a sweet-tooth!

I’m always apprehensive when meeting people from this board because there are some real winners out there. People whom I wouldn’t even let walk my dog, but GE is quite the gentleman and his friend was adorable. I enjoyed dinner with the two of them.

After dinner I Took a taxi over to Rizal St. to have a glass of wine at a place called De Bonte Koe at GE’s recommendation. They were out of Reisling so I had a glass of their house wine. Surprisingly good! The owner Henny (I think) told me the crisp flavor of the red wine comes from his sweaty feet. His words, not mine. I’m sure he was pulling my leg.

I rolled out of there and hit a few bars in the Auto Shop area. Pretty dead, but it was Monday night, So off two Hot Legs II I went. This Hot Legs is even more of a whole-in-the-wall than the last one I went to. It was dank. I think the word dank describes it best. The girl crowded me as soon as I walked in and sat down. They wasted no time in asking me for LD’s. I told I had to look around and pick a girl first.

There was nude dancing…totally nude dancing on stage which surprised me because I have never seen that in the Philippines during any of my many trips here. I even saw the girls come off stage and straddle a few customers in the buff! Interesting!

There were about 15-20 girls in the place. Lots of 6’s and 7’s, but only one girl caught my eye. She was as skinny as a rail and cute as hell. I knew immediately I was taking her home. I called her over, ordered a LD and another Gin and Tonic and chatted up my new friend. P2500 (BF) later she was back at my hotel room providing me with some of the best sex I have had in the Philippines in a long time. Or maybe I have been away too long? Whatever the case, girl #3 was a keeper….in the bedroom sense of the word.

My alarm rang too soon it seemed, waking us both up. Is it time to dive already? Every time I visit this country I forget to schedule in sleep. Chasing women and drinking all night, diving during the day, going to the gym and exercising, and sleeping very little. It’s killing me! Giving me a very enjoyable slow death, but I can’t think of a better way to go. I’m dead tired already and it’s only going into day 5. Anyway, I exchange digits with girl #3, tip her p1000, and show her to the door with each of us promising to text one another.

YM

I got off the Dive boat around 3PM and decided I needed a nap before going out that night. The nap never happened. I got caught up replying to emails and stuff and by the time I ordered dinner and had a shower, it was after 7PM. Time to hit the streets.

It’s Tuesday night so there’s not a lot going on in regular bars and pubs so I decided to use this night to check out a few more places. First stop, Apollo on F Inigo Blvd. The place is a shit hole! All the girls I saw were bottom rung type in quality. Don’t bother with this place.

Next stop Starrett Night Club, also on F Innigo Blvd. A more appropriate name would have been Starrett Night Mare! Girls had a sleazy quality to them, and the bar had no liquor. Not even one bottle of Tanduay! Stay away!

On the same street not far away is Hot Legs III. I walked in and ordered a drink. There were 15 or so girls all in the 4-6 range in looks. More chubsters than in the other two Hot Legs I visited. The girls are very friendly, as fat girls often are. They were constantly around me boxing me in on the couch. No skinny spinners there so I left.

I decided to go to Hot Legs 1 on Palma Gil St. not far from the Marco Polo Hotel, and directly across the street from the Madayan (spelling?) Hotel. This Hot Legs has by far the best looking girls out all the places I have visited so far in Davao. Same moderate pressure for LD’s from the girls, and they try to up sell the VIP room which is P1500. I order a gin and tonic and fend off the girls until I get a chance to perouse through the twenty or so girls there. The shower show is much better here. At least the girls sexed it up a bit more as they showered, giving us men in the audience a better visual fantasy by mock licking and sucking, smiling, and slowly and playfully washing themselves and each other.

I called a short little spinner over and chat her up to get a sense of her. She had to be no more than 4’ 7” and weighed 85lbs if you spit on her. My type of women! She was a little concerned with my size, but she had a great attitude and was willing give me a try. P2500 BF and back to the hotel room we go.

The drawback with the type of women I like, meaning small, is they usually have small mouths as well, so getting a good BJ is hard…no pun intended. Girl #4 was no exception to this problem. An “A” for effort though. The sex was good. Not as good as girl #1 or 3, but somewhere in between I guess. I did have to slap on shit load of lube to finish the job. I don’t think girl #4 will text me back for another meet. It was a little rough for her.

YM

[QUOTE=Yella Man]

Every time I visit this country I forget to schedule in sleep. Chasing women and drinking all night, and sleeping very little. It's killing me! Giving me a very enjoyable slow death, but I can't think of a better way to go. I'm dead tired already

YM[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you mean. I keep meaning to do it better " next trip" but never seem to manage it.

I am in Davao during the last week of January.

Barba

Just got back to home base myself and slept 14 hours. I didn't even unpack. Sorry I missed you in Davao.

Also, Cuba tourist, your mailbox is full. X


[QUOTE=FreebieFan]I know exactly what you mean. I keep meaning to do it better " next trip" but never seem to manage it.[/QUOTE]

I received a very typical text asking me “how I am?”, and “what are you doing?” from girl #3 from Hot Legs on San Pedro St. I sent her a text back saying, “I’m waiting for you.” She replied by saying, “I’ll be right there.”

We had lunch at Café Marco. A buffet that wasn’t half bad. Girl #3 weighs about 85lbs so she nibbled on her food like a rabbit. We talked about this and that. I asked her how much her salary was at Hot Legs. P300 a week. She said she works seven days a week, and if she misses a day and doesn’t have a doctor’s note excusing her from work, she has to pay the club P5000 if she missed a weekday, and P10, 000 if she missed a weekend. I’m not the brightest person in the world, but if you multiply her weekly salary by four, she only makes P9000 a month, not including LD’s and BF’s. If she misses work one day on the weekend, she could end up owing the club P1000. Talk about indentured servitude!

After it was apparent she wasn’t going to eat much, I asked her if she was ready to go to my room and make mad passionate love. She simply said, “oh oh”, meaning yes. I love it when they say that. It sounds so sexy.

Girl #3 is amazing in bed! I think I’m sprung! For her size she really knows how to take care of business. We fucked and sucked like teenagers for an hour or so, and then snuggled together and fell asleep until she had to go to work. I gave her P1500 and told her to text me when she gets off work at 2 or 3AM.

So I was free for the evening. I showered and took a taxi to a place called Joke on Torres St. It was mainly a Filipino bar that had beautiful waitresses who would do a group dance on stage several times a night. People from the audience would go on stage and sing Karaoke, and the DJ would occasionally play dance music for people to dance to. I think there was stand-up comedy as well, but it was in Tagalog or Visayan so I couldn’t understand much of what was being said. I just know the audience was laughing.

I pretty waitress came and took my order and then stayed with me the rest of the night. I’m not sure if BF’s are aloud there because it didn’t seem like that kind of place, but I asked her what her job was and she told me she had to dance and drink with customers. I bought her a drink. We danced and drank the night away. I took her number and caught a taxi to Hot Legs 1 on Palma Gil st.

Girl #1 and Girl #4 were both there. I sat down with girl #4 because she was so cute, and bought her a drink. I told her to text me after work so she could swing by my room and let me suck on her for a while. She laughed loudly at that statement. I finished my gin and tonic and caught a taxi back to the Marco to await the start of the text message game.

Back in my room I took a shower and spread out on the bed to watch some TV. I dozed off fairly quickly, and the next time I opened my eyes several hours had passed. Needless to say, I didn’t hear any of the text messages the girls sent after they had finished work. I needed the sleep anyway.


YM

I just arrived in Davao yesterday. I had become quite attached to a woman named Shane but I was a little bit anxious to move on. I've been in Manila a number of times before and it wasn't new and fresh. The hotel was overpriced and not that great. In the future, I may go either upscale or downscale. The middle priced hotels charge too much for too little.

I arrived at about 6 PM and met a young man and young lady in my row. The guy was in the middle so he had better access to the very very attractive woman but once we got off the plane and were waiting for our baggage, she gravitated to me. We may meet later today. She seems very eager.

I met Grace, who was beautiful and very sexy. She spent the night and all morning with me. I helped her put some photos on Friendster and I gave her 800 pesos taxi money, which she took with a big smile.

I'm staying in a small hotel. When I first arrived at the airport, a guy wanted 500 Pesos to drive me into town. Eventually I found one for 250. He showed me three or four hotels until I found this one for about 1200 pesos a night. Ponce Suites had art all over the place and was truly unique for about 700 pesos, but there were terrible rooms.

I'd love to meet anyone who is here now. I cleaned out my mailbox so there is now room to send me a message.

Yesterday I met three women in Davao. The first one met me alone. Her name is Jill. 19 years old and a college student in business administration. Her father was killed in a car crash when she was three. She works four hours a day in her uncle's business. She talked about her Protestant evangelical church repeatedly. We walked around for a few hours and she declined even a hamburger. No way was she sleeping with me.

Then I met a 27-year-old girl who brought her friend. The two of them were friendly but also spoke about their church. They also seem quite conservative. I got a text that another woman had arrived at my hotel so I excused myself after eating a small pizza and shakes with them.

The last girl had spoken about money problems on the phone so I was optimistic but when I met her she showed up with her aunt and friend and told me how she had met about eight or 10 foreigners over the past three years since she had been on the dating site and did not like any of them because they all wanted to have sex. Her aunt said that I was much nicer than any of these previous guys but I did not find that terribly encouraging.

The friend was extremely cute, much more so than the girl that I had corresponded with, whose name was Karen. The other girl's name was ching ching. Anyway after dinner at the hotel, the four of us went to my room to watch a movie. When I started touching ching ching she moved off the bed and onto the little night table. I asked her what was wrong and she said nothing. But I tried to touch her back and she stood up. She'd been smiling at me throughout dinner so I was a little bit surprised. Anyway they quickly excused themselves and left.

The last posts on Davao bring slowly some reality to the board. Davao has been pushed on the board (not on this thread though) in a kind of adolescent fashion that misled probably quite a few readers. So some caution is good when reading some of those reports and bizarre claims. Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot.
True down the street, some 100 - 150 yards away, some SW were often active but those were nothing for guys with timid nature, sense of risk or simply those who were still somewhat sober.
In due course, doubts were voiced and when those became louder, the adolescent and his deputy had to find an escape. Now we learned that the P4P Central had been the P4P Central of past times. Too bad this had no been made clear before. Less friendly readers would smell BS.

The Davao P4P central is near a bank building not far from the Venue. Dozens and dozens of SW but again, nothing for concerned consumers.

The small places on the CM Recto fall into the same category.

These are the low low low end places and locations anywhere found in RP. From the very big cities to the small towns. Old moms trying to make an extra peso to pay for the kids or grand kids breakfast.

The Venue itself had also been promoted as a pick up place. THe place was a hangout for regional mafia leaders who entertained the audience, at least once, with their shooting practices, leaving a body behind. Great place so to say.

The entertainment clubs cant be overlooked. They are mostly the only lighted place on the streets where they are found. Which tells a lot. The prices quoted by many posters make it more than doubtful that overpriced company makes Davao a special destination.

So the P4P scene is not that great. But then there all these freebies waiting for us. Right. Or better, not quite so right. Reading about the solid tens and nines obtainable on arrival some readers would have wondered. Again, some research is helpful. Look for the photographic evidence that accompanies from time to time those glorious victory news. Counting is a problem. While for most of us 4 is followed by 5, some think it's 10. Top stunners, once recorded on jpg and posted, turned out to be what the average Pattaya tourist knows as a solid 400 Baht Beach Road value. The difference is, nobody takes them to a 5 star hotel with jacuzzi, for that you need to go to Davao.

Ok, tastes vary greatly. The mall and internet procedures to meet somebody nice do work but it takes time and that is not what makes Davao the center of P4P but one place among many. Admittedly there are more malls in Davao than, say, Dumaguette or Iligan, but that changes not too much the overall picture. Davao is stretched out and the places were people meet are limited. Any girl who meets a white guys will stick out. Chaperons are essential to protect reputation and avoid gossip. Will it be for free? Not really, once the man is accepted as a bf, that is girl's perspective after all, he is expected to act like a proper local bf. He has to help with making life easier for her and take care of her. This is not scamming but a necessity. A tricycle fare is a major daily expense for most students and workers, including the mall ladies.

Guys who want to scored quick and consecutively need quite some preparation, use deception, have luck, and a good dose of disregard for the women to go ahead with this.

For guys who want nice company and are open to something more durable Davao is not too bad. Enough infrastructure and amenities are to be found. I dont mean going for the removed expat life stile with imported goods and exclusive locations, but going local with fresh seafood and other product. Most importantly with an open mind to try to understand the mindset of the women and the constraints they have to struggle with. Once this is understood true gems are fully appreciated.

In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.

[QUOTE=Thaifun]The last posts on Davao bring slowly some reality to the board. Davao has been pushed on the board (not on this thread though) in a kind of adolescent fashion that misled probably quite a few readers. So some caution is good when reading some of those reports and bizarre claims. Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot.
True down the street, some 100 - 150 yards away, some SW were often active but those were nothing for guys with timid nature, sense of risk or simply those who were still somewhat sober.

In due course, doubts were voiced and when those became louder, the adolescent and his deputy had to find an escape. Now we learned that the P4P Central had been the P4P Central of past times. Too bad this had no been made clear before. Less friendly readers would smell BS.

The Davao P4P central is near a bank building not far from the Venue. Dozens and dozens of SW but again, nothing for concerned consumers.

The small places on the CM Recto fall into the same category.

These are the low low low end places and locations anywhere found in RP. From the very big cities to the small towns. Old moms trying to make an extra peso to pay for the kids or grand kids breakfast.

The Venue itself had also been promoted as a pick up place. THe place was a hangout for regional mafia leaders who entertained the audience, at least once, with their shooting practices, leaving a body behind. Great place so to say.

The entertainment clubs cant be overlooked. They are mostly the only lighted place on the streets where they are found. Which tells a lot. The prices quoted by many posters make it more than doubtful that overpriced company makes Davao a special destination.

So the P4P scene is not that great. But then there all these freebies waiting for us. Right. Or better, not quite so right. Reading about the solid tens and nines obtainable on arrival some readers would have wondered. Again, some research is helpful. Look for the photographic evidence that accompanies from time to time those glorious victory news. Counting is a problem. While for most of us 4 is followed by 5, some think it's 10. Top stunners, once recorded on jpg and posted, turned out to be what the average Pattaya tourist knows as a solid 400 Baht Beach Road value. The difference is, nobody takes them to a 5 star hotel with jacuzzi, for that you need to go to Davao.

Ok, tastes vary greatly. The mall and internet procedures to meet somebody nice do work but it takes time and that is not what makes Davao the center of P4P but one place among many. Admittedly there are more malls in Davao than, say, Dumaguette or Iligan, but that changes not too much the overall picture. Davao is stretched out and the places were people meet are limited. Any girl who meets a white guys will stick out. Chaperons are essential to protect reputation and avoid gossip. Will it be for free? Not really, once the man is accepted as a bf, that is girl's perspective after all, he is expected to act like a proper local bf. He has to help with making life easier for her and take care of her. This is not scamming but a necessity. A tricycle fare is a major daily expense for most students and workers, including the mall ladies.

Guys who want to scored quick and consecutively need quite some preparation, use deception, have luck, and a good dose of disregard for the women to go ahead with this.

For guys who want nice company and are open to something more durable Davao is not too bad. Enough infrastructure and amenities are to be found. I dont mean going for the removed expat life stile with imported goods and exclusive locations, but going local with fresh seafood and other product. Most importantly with an open mind to try to understand the mindset of the women and the constraints they have to struggle with. Once this is understood true gems are fully appreciated.

In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.[/QUOTE]Excellent post.

Finally some objectivity and realistic reporting on Davao City.

Now the hype artists will chime in , lol.

Thanks pal for some sensible reporting , its been a long time coming , but you will most probably be crucified for your frankness and objectivity.

Actually, a pretty good summary despite being a bit on the negative side.

Dragonslayer thread still provides information about Davao and other areas.

Because of the nature of ISG, many people assume that if someone is boinking a woman half his age, then it must be p4p. Think again. Davao is not really a good p4p destination, although it exists.

Davao is more for the wife hunter or p4p weary man who wants to experience the adventure of the hunt of a regular woman. I will add that my observations seem to indicate that MIndanao women are a bit taller and more buxom than their northern sisters.

The convenience store still exists and as Thaifun suggests, it was never much of a p4p destination. It does have seating inside (receently expanded) and outside. You can buy a beer, or whatever, and enjoy it right there.

The outside seating has a view of the entrance of the very popular People's Park. Entrance to the park is regulated so there is sometimes a queue. I have no intention of over-hyping Davao, but this is still a good place to sit down, have a beer, and observe who is entering the park. Dusk is the time you'll see more adult women in the park.

Every trip I try to do something new. This time (Jan 2010) I went down to Talikud island. Is anyone interested in a review?

X


[QUOTE=Thaifun]
Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot..[/QUOTE]

X----I dove Talikud Island today. Would love to read your impressions.

You do your dive review, I'll do a simple Talikud review.

You didn't contact the girl I pm'd you? Damn, as ACDC would say, "the girl's got rythym".

X
[QUOTE=Cuba Tourist]X----I dove Talikud Island today. Would love to read your impressions.[/QUOTE]

It's always a rare treat to get the straight goods from someone who really

Knows the score. Thaifun's recent report on Davao hits the mark. I've read numerous other writers' observations, some with the flavour of local

Chamber of Commerce boosters. I like Davao, have every intention of going back. Had my share of luck, there, too. However, Thaifun gives the

Most realistic summary I've read on Davao.

Cheers,

Mate!

Thank you Thaifun for that well balanced report.

I as well might have come across as overly positive about Davao at times. Sorry. As I said before I spent one night in Cebu and saw more pretty girls there during these 48 hours than in a week in Davao. Not to mention Manila or BKK.

Davao is provincial. Like a small town where everyone knows each other and keep track of each other. Less pretty girls and less girls that are up for anything out of the ordinary. My buddies who lives on site have been talking for two years about organizing a pool party like the ones from Angeles you can find on YoutuB. It is yet to happen. The girls on Skank Street. Sorry Bank Street will not join you for a pool party unless they can bring their family and a big pot of rice along to the pick nick. And I doubt that any hotel would even let them in more than one at the time.

Davao is rural and simple. There is a beauty in that but forget just walking out and pick up adventurous girls en masse. Find a good girl and take her to Talicud for some days and you will see the real good side of Davao. Rizal st and Torres st, and the faces that you constantly see there, will bore you in a week or tow.

The best thing to do at the mentioned convenient store is to eat the grilled chicken. Maybe you can get to talk to a giggly teen coming from the park, but it is a useless spot for picking up girls.

Davao is a great place, but not for the reasons many travel to the Philippines for.

Barba

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Has anyone stayed in this hotel called My Hotel in Davao? It has a very nice website and looks very clean and nice there but I realize that marketing sometimes trumps reality. Would appreciate feedback from anyone who has any experience there.

Promotional prices around 1000 PHP looks great.

[QUOTE=Polyorchid]Has anyone stayed in this hotel called My Hotel in Davao? It has a very nice website and looks very clean and nice there but I realize that marketing sometimes trumps reality. Would appreciate feedback from anyone who has any experience there.

Promotional prices around 1000 PHP looks great.[/QUOTE]
I was going to give it a try too doing my next trip. It is new and indeed very well marketed all over Davao with bill boards and a sleek website.

Its in San Pedro Street and pretty close to most of the downtown action. It is a pretty noisy area with all the traffic and sidewalk markets. Towards Quirino Ave it seems to be a congregating area for pimps, pros and pick pockets!

Just around the block in Rizal Street is Las Casitas Inn. It is relatively new, 3 years I think, and I have stayed there a couple of times. Rizal Street sites like Rizal Promenade, Club 183, Chicos, De Bonte Koe, Claudes are all within a minute or two. I can recommend Las Casitas Inn [url]http://lascasitasinn.com/[/url]

Try "My Hotel" and I will be interested in your report Polyorchid

Kongking

[QUOTE=KongKing]I was going to give it a try too doing my next trip. It is new and indeed very well marketed all over Davao with bill boards and a sleek website.

Its in San Pedro Street and pretty close to most of the downtown action. It is a pretty noisy area with all the traffic and sidewalk markets. Towards Quirino Ave it seems to be a congregating area for pimps, pros and pick pockets!

Just around the block in Rizal Street is Las Casitas Inn. It is relatively new, 3 years I think, and I have stayed there a couple of times. Rizal Street sites like Rizal Promenade, Club 183, Chicos, De Bonte Koe, Claudes are all within a minute or two. I can recommend Las Casitas Inn [url]http://lascasitasinn.com/[/url]

Try "My Hotel" and I will be interested in your report Polyorchid

Kongking[/QUOTE]
I pass it frequently though I've never been inside. To me, the place looks like a dump, and it's not in an area that's convenient to much of anything. Barba has stayed there a couple of times and, as I recall, he told me during his last visit that he would never stay there again. You may want to PM him directly and ask him why.
GE

Try order in the restaurant and you will C.

Or try to get a room that corresponds to what you booked.

Or try chasing down the cockroaches..

TV out of order. Phone out of order. No bed lights. Super bad cleaning of the floors.

You get what you pay for, but there are worse or better places also in the 1000-1200 peso range.

The location is fine but either you face the back side with the constantly hammering constructors, or the front side and the noisy San Pedro street. Get me a sniper rifle and I will take out all the ballot horns some morning.

Did anyone try Hotel Hari Royale on Sta Anna Ave, I. E. China Town? Newly built.

Promo rate at 999 / 1200 peso.

Phone +63 823000111.

Looks pretty good on the flyer I got sent to me.

Barba

There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?[/QUOTE]
I was there tonight and the place was pretty full, but I didn't see anyone corresponding to your description.

GE

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?[/QUOTE]
Barba......is that you as it cant be GE...big boned, different girls sounds like you IMHO :D ;)

I wish, but nope it is not me. I am not in Davao yet.

And I am not sure I am that big boned either.

First Singapore and then Davao after that.

Barba

Nope. Can't be Barba. I chatted with him yesterday and he's still in his home country but coming here this week. I did see a table with a couple of large expats. They finished when we were halfway through our meal, but these guys were with older women. I thought the women were most likely their wives, so I doubt if one of them was the person being referred to.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Nope. Can't be Barba. I chatted with him yesterday and he's still in his home country but coming here this week. I did see a table with a couple of large expats. They finished when we were halfway through our meal, but these guys were with older women. I thought the women were most likely their wives, so I doubt if one of them was the person being referred to.[/QUOTE]

If they were in their late 20s to early 30s that can be considered old for a filipina. That's jail bait for me and my preference.

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]If they were in their late 20s to early 30s that can be considered old for a filipina. That's jail bait for me and my preference.[/QUOTE]
However, they were in the late forties to early fifties, and trust me, there's no way they were for hire.

[QUOTE=Thaifun]In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.[/QUOTE]
I think you meant to type "Davao" not "Angeles". sorry for nitpicking. hehe.

[QUOTE=Laylow3]I think you meant to type "Davao" not "Angeles". sorry for nitpicking. hehe.[/QUOTE]
No, I think he meant Davao is not for someone who enjoys/wants the cheap of Angeles diba?

Laylow, I just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a Filipina?

Robb

[quote=robbaf]no, i think he meant davao is not for someone who enjoys/wants the cheap of angeles diba?

laylow, i just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a filipina?

robb[/quote]

exactly. reading that other area of the forum, some guys might think davao's airport code should be changed from dvo to foa (fuck on arrival).

most of the time i just read and keep silent as debating makes little sense or produces few results. but it seems many readers who have been to davao found realities on the ground entirely different from the adolescent's and his deputy's claims.

i have had many memorable nights at a local dance club. sitting in the back with some lady friend and seeing some 'americano' walking in. getting his drink and beaming with expectation. be sure, he/they left alone after an hour or so. the girls know the score. going with a guy like that would out them among their peers and the label '*****' is used. yes, you might have a nice talk with the ladies on the next table, join them, and get the number from one. but that's a start and not the done deal. and all of this depends on proper behavior, the right answers, and not being a 2-3 day visitor to the area. the sexy dance competition is nice but that's not a strip club situation, for this you need to turn left at the next corner.

yes most girls are looking - but mr right not mr short time. the girls routinely refer to westerners patrolling torres at night looking for a pick up. some also read, believe or not, this web forum. this all should serve as a hint that the ladies, at least some of them, are not stupid and ignorant. some have been burnt and are very bitter. dia girls have stories to tell. like that of an aussie. got his lady coming in from bislig. she sneaked away from her family claiming to visit her friend in panabo. no job or perspective, very poor. he was her first man, three times a day. a little bad luck for the man as anal did not really work, too much pain. he left, some more emails and then faded away. she is back in bislig and sometimes making some money from doing laundry. cheap fuck, just some promises. great guy. i think i read his report somewhere on the forum. so think about that "other" report she would write. p4p standards are hardly the right way to treat "good" girls in provinces. dia girls often state that they are "simple" (read modest). maybe that's often misunderstood.

davao is not a small town but is big. pointing to single women going out in groups is stating the obvious and a common phenomenon valid for most towns in rp. women go out in groups, they are single, they are looking, but won't fuck you on first contact. exceptions prove the rule for sure but assuming that you're in for that for sure, think twice.

this is not being negative about davao. my issue is the conscious blurring of the distinctions of the p4p scene, which is pretty gross in davao, and the dating scene which is a bit more complex than some people would like to have it.

the degree of arrogance and disregard for women in davao exposed on some thread of this forum is difficult to stomach. most of the girls are hard working for 180-250 peso a day. they have only contracts and no rights like workers have in other countries. once the contract has run its time they are on the street and need to survive from what they could save. plus they support their families from this meager income. in other words, the 2x 7 peso jeepney fare to meet a western man exceeds more of 10% of what is left of their daily income. convert that into us averages and anyone gets the picture. ok, not all as we know just too well. mocking their poverty and often desperate situation, conditions that make them ask for 500 peso (11 us), tells a lot about poster.

i think some simply confuse matters. it is not the issue of 'over-paying' for services rendered, like in, say, angeles or pattaya, but something entirely different. most of these women are very conservative and dream of a different life. realizing the fundamental difference between the angeles and davao situations is probably the basis for any 'good' time in davao without exploiting a woman.

dinner in a 5 star hotel, the day on the beach etc. are all nice but help hardly when it comes to the bottom line. the 1000 or 2000 peso dinner have the same effect like a 50-100 peso dinner, it is one meal after all nothing more. she needs to eat again, memories dont help. the winner is not the girl but the person who took her there as an additional piece of furniture to be discarded within a second. so nobody impresses me with talk about dinner prices while being greedy about those 10 us when it does matter.
davao is good as long as the guest shows some consideration, understanding, interest and even some respect. living in davao on a us income with all benefits and then adopting some kind of anthropological view on the local 'indios' exposes a degree of racism that is well understood.

one important addition; contraceptives are difficult to get and too expensive. so most girls "trust" you. this has lead to some discussion with pretty bizarre results. following expert opinion on the matter from a boy who has knocked up three girls already with doubtlessly many more to come, is plain stupid. aside from std, remember those warts...., the "safe" days are not always as secure as it is claimed. why? sperm can survive up to three days inside the female body (info from a nurse). do the math...


all those complains, right? so what does he do himself? i pay for some drinks at the dance club with the lady i accompany or those i do join at their table. they are happy for the beer or the cali. i make sure i always take care of the fare (both ways plus a few peso extra usually a small 50 p bill does it most of the time). this is the difference between helping and paying. yes i pay the dinner in non fancy but ok places (by local standards). the trip to a nice place on the day off is paid and when it gets tight at the end of the month, i m there. sometimes a bit shopping is fine. usually the girl is happy to go to a mall with her friends and do the ladies' mall experience. a simple jeans is a major expense (500 or so, maybe a little less), a nice t shirt etc. so 1000 peso do help.
have a bdo or metrobank savings account with atm card. during absence this takes care of unforeseen issues, there will be some for sure. just transfer into that account (it is in your name, she has the pin and card).

i can only say that filipinas compare most favorably with thais, american and also european women. show respect and you will be treated with respect. take care and you will see what happens when your sick and need some assistance yourself. the girls are conservative but with the right guy they will open up and broaden their horizons (not just in bed by the way).

davao is an excellent place if you observe some discretion and show consideration. in short: being and acting mature is a good idea.

[QUOTE=Robbaf]Laylow, I just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a Filipina?

Robb[/QUOTE]
Yes I am married to filipina. I know I know, sooner or later I'll get caught. Thanks for bringing me back to reality again. I got the same warning when I posted about my upcoming trip to the P.I. last year. In actuality, I know full well that you are 100% correct and that I AM going to heed your warning. I guess I keep asking about it because secretly I hope someone will tell me that it is in fact possible. But until that day, I won't mess around anywhere near her hometown. Damn!

I thought the first report was well balanced and I said so in my response. Barba, a good source of Davao info, reported in a similar way

I think this followup is a long winded rehash and tends to be a lot more on the negative critical side. It also doesn't include any specifics.

I've been to Davao four times, usually just for a 3 to t5 days, and have been well cared for......in every respect of the word.

Thaifun...how much have you been to Davao? If you've given this detail earlier, I'm sorry for not rtff....but it seems you have only a few posts.

I only ask because if you've got a harem in Pattaya, it might be a disappointment to visit a new place like Davao and not get penile satisfaction in the first 15 minutes. We envy you.

X

[QUOTE=Thaifun]exactly. Reading that other area of the forum,

SNIP about 1200 words deleted here SNIP

Davao is an excellent place if you observe some discretion and show consideration. In short: Being and acting mature is a good idea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thaifun]exactly. Reading that other area of the forum, some guys might think Davao's airport code should be changed from DVO to FOA (fuck on arrival).

[/QUOTE]

Good analysis. I'm here thinking that you are new to the Philippine scene as i could not read more post of you here.

What you say is correct as an initial perspective. However, once you start living here and get to know them better, you would realize that filipinas are much stronger mentally and physically than what we think.

Living here for close to 2 years now. My perspective has gotten better as i grow older and look into the view of how an expat thinks and how a filipina lives.

From my personal experience. 90% of filipinas and mongers are well behaved, respectful and generally nice. You could read one other forum just do Google search living in cebu forums and get to meet cebu expat community which is well connected and go out of their way to help.

Generally people across the world are nice, if only one takes the time to know them. Its the authority and the need for some people to control others lives that creates all sorts of problems.

I have been with many filipinas to say really that you need to stay for over six months to know what Philippines is all about. Your judgement of Davao and general life is what a monger sees when he first comes to the PH. I cannot stress that enough that your perspective will change once you start living here.

What you call unfairness and cheating will soon open new view on life here. You haven't included the strength of filipinas and the family attachment they have for one another and various other factors that you start sensing it when you start to living here.

Good Luck

Guys,

Do I detect some quibbling here, regarding Thaifun's second report?

The suggestion that his few reports on this particular forum equates with his being a 'rookie' who doesn't have a grasp of the the real picture

Are questionable.

What's the real message he's giving us? Isn't it that showing respect and making a concerted effort to think with your other head, is necessary to understand the filipinas of Davao.

I, for one, have found both his reports well balanced, thoughtful, and displaying perspective and sensitivity.

Surely there is room on this forum for such observations.

Thaifun, thanks for an excellent, well balanced report. As I've said herein several times, Davao is probably not the best destination for those seeking immediate and varied gratification. If P4P is your thing, there are many more productive areas of the Philippines in which to indulge yourself.

As you point out, Davao is slightly more genteel than many other cities here, and there appear to be more women interested in actual relationships. That said, some simple kindness and respect go a long way toward establishing such relationships and finding a lady who is fairly compatible with you is not particularly difficult so long as you're not overly anxious and too obviously on the prowl.

There are, it seems to me, three more or less generic categories of women here: the straight P4P variety found in the clubs or on the street or in the casas; the "part-timers," who are more often than not students looking for tuition help; and the non-pros (the largest group), who are looking for some sort of actual relationship. It's this latter group that's most often found at places like Someplace Else (and adjoining areas), Bar 183, the bars on Torres St., the Auto Shop and so on. If it's these types of women you're after, then Davao can be a truly great town.

Within the last group, most of the girls, while certainly needy by Western standards, are actually at the edge of the middle class by local criteria. That is, they're not desperately needy and getting to know them takes some effort.

What embarrasses me about some Westerners here is that they fail to distinguish among the various groups, take no time to study the situation, and act on the assumption that all of the women they see alone or in groups, are hookers who will find them somehow irresistible. They appear to think that so long as they have some funds, all women will be willing and even anxious to hit the sack with them. This would be amusing if some of these guys were not so arrogant in their stupidity, and were not so loud and obnoxious in their pursuit of the ladies. They do not seem to know or care that a little respect for all people goes a very long way here.

GE

[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Barba......is that you as it cant be GE...big boned, different girls sounds like you IMHO :D ;)[/QUOTE]It was around nov 1. Nov 15. Short hair, about 6ft3. Claude said he comes daily and always grabs a wine bottle. Big boned like 280 lbs+ and native english speaker.

Anyway that guy seemed well introduced.

Next time I see one of you I'll go ask him to hook me up with some premium girls and I'll buy the dinner! LOL.

[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]Good analysis. I'm here thinking that you are new to the Philippine scene as i could not read more post of you here.

What you say is correct as an initial perspective. However, once you start living here and get to know them better, you would realize that filipinas are much stronger mentally and physically than what we think.

Living here for close to 2 years now. My perspective has gotten better as i grow older and look into the view of how an expat thinks and how a filipina lives.

From my personal experience. 90% of filipinas and mongers are well behaved, respectful and generally nice. You could read one other forum just do Google search living in cebu forums and get to meet cebu expat community which is well connected and go out of their way to help.

Generally people across the world are nice, if only one takes the time to know them. Its the authority and the need for some people to control others lives that creates all sorts of problems.

I have been with many filipinas to say really that you need to stay for over six months to know what Philippines is all about. Your judgement of Davao and general life is what a monger sees when he first comes to the PH. I cannot stress that enough that your perspective will change once you start living here.

What you call unfairness and cheating will soon open new view on life here. You haven't included the strength of filipinas and the family attachment they have for one another and various other factors that you start sensing it when you start to living here.

Good Luck[/QUOTE]

we have about the same PI years on our shoulders. I have been in Thailand for the better part of the recent years before switching.
My issue is just the blurring of distinctions and the, yes, sometimes totally out of context conduct of some guys. Really embarrassing. Perhaps more important is even the arrogance shown by some in real life and their postings.
I agree that filipinas are good at sustaining awful situations. Having said that there is no need to accept that as the rule or a condition. Meaning: Be nice and dont exploit some naive provincial girl. Sure some are not and only play that game.
My point is just to get those over and over reposted misconceptions on Davao out of the way. There were enough justified complaints from girls who have a kind of good job and going out. Interested in a white guy and then the idiot starts financial discussion and inquires on services offered. Maybe wrongly, but I do suspect that some readers of the forum were among those guys.
As for my own part, I m doing really fine. Being honest to a good extent, generous within in clearly defined and declared limits, and the use of ignore buttons/number screening to weed out the bad apples assures a good life.

Back to the Thailand comparison. Generalizations dont work well, they describe more averages. With that qualification in mind, I find filipinas much nicer than thais.

[QUOTE=X Man]I thought the first report was well balanced and I said so in my response. Barba, a good source of Davao info, reported in a similar way

I think this followup is a long winded rehash and tends to be a lot more on the negative critical side. It also doesn't include any specifics.

I've been to Davao four times, usually just for a 3 to t5 days, and have been well cared for......in every respect of the word.

Thaifun...how much have you been to Davao? If you've given this detail earlier, I'm sorry for not rtff....but it seems you have only a few posts.

I only ask because if you've got a harem in Pattaya, it might be a disappointment to visit a new place like Davao and not get penile satisfaction in the first 15 minutes. We envy you.

X[/QUOTE]

I dont post my own experiences cos it wont tell too much about the place and more about me and i m, i m afraid, not the object of general desire here. The 20th reference to the dance club with the 2 am competition wont add much. I m anyhow more in the dating scene.

Davao? Sometimes 10 days or more, now much less. Other places attract me more. Usually every 3-5 months, i m in Davao. I posted in the Davao thread cos it attracts more attention and visitors. But it could have been another place in Mindanao as well. Davao is my place to rest, fly in and out, spend a night in a club, or do some shopping before heading into the woods. The sea in Davao is not really great, seafood is overpriced. Those crabs on the plate have after all the long ride from San Fernando barangay in Bislig on their shoulders. Try them at the source...Takes about 7 hrs to get to the bridge with the small market.

I dont want to come across as being negative about Davao. The place has its very good sides.

Sorry about being repetitive, i thought some clarifications had been requested. Plus that contraception discussion stuck in my mind. I hope that the 72 hrs reminder came in handy.

[QUOTE=Thaifun] xxxxxxxxx But it seems many readers who have been to Davao found realities on the ground entirely different from the adolescent's and his deputy's claims. Xxxxxxxxxxxxx[/QUOTE]Hope those new to this thread, read and re-read that, LOL, 100% correct.

Plus agree with most other stuff you have written.

Amuses me, guys ride in with their dollars and reckon they are gods gift to women. Reality is quite different.

Thaifun, I have just caught up with your second of your two comprehensive postings. I share with Questor 55, Born Loser 5, Goodenough, Sxxxx their views of a well balanced thoughtful contribution.

You don’t say it as such but you are clearly referring to the Dragon Slayer Davao forum. Should you have posted there your contribution probably would not have seen the light of day. Some of us have experienced that! Despite the fact that the DS Davao forum seems to be recently dominated by upper-end food and fashion reports, occasionally there’s good ISG information and entertaining stuff there. So I don’t write it off. In my view your comments go wider than this other Davao forum.

The major point to me that you are making is that you/we treat the Filipina with respect and not as a chattel or a slab of meat to be skewered. “Most girls are looking – but Mr Right but not Mr Short Time”. Well said Thaifan. You are obviously a considerate guy and you are prepared to get on a wave length, share and understand your Filipina partner. And that does not mean throwing around dollops of dollars to impress.

I chuckled at your comment about Filipinas whose scorings were rated as 9 or 10 revealed “counting is a problem” when compared with the actual posted photos which wouldn’t rate half that score. DS says he has 100s more photos so if ever revealed we may see a better scoring match-up!

Minor quibble, but it was X Man that first suggested that Thaifun's (first) post was "well balanced".

KongKing, it's sad to see you still angry at the guy who runs the other Davao thread. Since he cannot post here, maybe Thaifun was correct in not naming names. Of course you can probably guess who the "deputy" is also!

Lastly, is there some post here in the Davao thread that suggested NOT treating women with respect??? It strikes me as common sense, so I'm surprised with the sudden clamor for everyone to say how important it is to treat women well. ]

X

[QUOTE=KongKing]
I share with Questor 55, Born Loser 5, Goodenough, Sxxxx their views of a well balanced thoughtful contribution.

SNIP
The major point to me that you are making is that you/we treat the Filipina with respect and not as a chattel or a slab of meat to be skewered.

SNIP![/QUOTE]

talikud island

for beaches near davao city, most people would cross over to samal island. a popular place is paradise island (resort) which is not an island. it's a resort. i would really like to explore samal island more, but this post is about talikud island. as for women, you’d best bring one with you.

i'll write it one more time for any newcomers on the way to davao. ask the locals about a beach and they will tell you to to go paradise island. it is not an island. it is a resort on samal island.

to get to talikud island (as in a piece of land surrounded by water -- a real island) you go to santa ana wharf in davao and pay 50 pesos per person. the transit is pleasant and takes about one hour. i was on a boat that carried 120 people and i don't know how often they run. i waited about an hour before they departed. with that in mind this is best done as an overnight trip. they seemed flexible about landings -- we were dropped off at a private pier outside of one of the towns. i imagine you can hire a private boat as well.

i think cubat and ge have both dived around t. island, so maybe they know more about private boat hires.

i struck up a conversation with the only other foreigner on the boat, a friendly european guy. he in turn met a group of filipinos on the boat who happened to speak his language (wow, what a coincidence) and were enroute to a resort owned by a european friend. the group, including my new friend, my companion and i, disembarked at this resort which is just north of the town of sta. cruz. the resort is still under construction -- it doesn't even have a name yet. i rented a very nice cottage on the waterfront for 1500 pesos. it was a kilometer or two north of the town of sta cruz on the east side of the island. (see map) pm me if you want more details about the resort.

at low tide it didn't look so good for swimming, but was actually very nice when the tide was up in the evening. also, we went to the beach resort just south of sta cruz called isla reta (see pics). there was no entrance charge at the time we went in late afternoon. the beach was very nice with white sand. the cottages looked very simple and had common walls -- not really cottages at all. you probably wouldn't want to stay here unless you were on a budget. after our swim, we wandered into the town. my new friend and i bought a bottle of red horse and drank it there at the table in front of the sari store. considering the attention we received, foreigners are not so common here -- not yet.

i never made it to the west side of the island, but it seems this is where the best beaches / snorkeling / diving is. the whole island is only about eight kilometers north to south and four kilometer east / west. i wish i'd had a mountain bike.

the island electricity is shut off from 1am to 6am. no one bothered to tell me this. waking up in the middle of the night in an unfamiliar room, with no light is kind of a pain in the arse. i had to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url]! i groped around for my phone, which has a light, but couldn't find it. i walked outside and pissed off the balcony under the full moon, enjoying the view of the water and coconut trees. a full moon isn't guaranteed, so take a flashlite or two!

oh, and another tip. this is not the type of place where they regularly trim the coconut trees so that some hapless foreigner doesn't get catastrophic brain injury while on holiday. the trees looked like they were ready to burst, so don't spend too much time under the trees when it's windy.

worth a visit if you want something quiet and remote. x

pic 1 isla reta resort beach view.
pic 2 the bit of green is the far northern tip of talikud island with mt. apo in the background.
pic 3 isla reta resort beach view looking south -- south tip of samal island in the background
pic 4 talikud island map, including south tip of samal island

It's part of Davao del Norte province, whereas the Big Apple is part of Sur.

You can convince guys into rustling up a wild coconut crab for dinner. Money does talk but, the people who are money-oriented have already moved to the Big Apple. So, you need to have ==some== social engineering skills.

Not sure if I should say thank you XMan but I do anyway. I spent about 30-40 nights over the years in Talicud in varios places, and it is indeed the one of the better get away spots around Davao. It changed a lot just during the last four years. Especially the last two since me and some other guys reported on it here (search the RODs and read my badly formatted report about rented boats, ferries and all). Much more people coming there, and not only foreigners that got up their eyes for this gem.

Isla Reta is named after the owner Mr Mario Reta and I tried to buy it several times.. Had some co financing at one time but he turned down a 15 000 000 peso bid. I do not think we would have bought it for such an hefty amount, but at the time me and my bro was in love with the place and the vision we had for it. Glad I did not buy Retas place since time will change also this little pearl. Isla Reta is in my opinion unbearable during weekends nowadays.

I checked out some other properties on the island as well. One full scaled but quite simple resort for some 2 200 000 peso. Six houses, a banka, 50 meter beach line, and so on. I left the idea of owning anything myself in Davao now, but have a couple of friends who is slowly consuming lot after lot on this island. I advice you to have a look at erosion patterns on Talicud before you buy anything.

I guess change is inevitable but sometimes we just want to stop time and preserve a newly found breathing whole like it was the day we first stumbled of the boat.

All the best from Barba!

Sorry guys if this is a lame query, but I don't recall hearing anything about 'Big Apple' in the past. I would appreciate some enlightenment.

I'm a bit of an 'info. junkie', so the more, the better.

Thanks

I've never stayed overnight on Talicud, and thus cannot offer any insights into the resorts mentioned. However, I trust Barba's judgments as he's a man of exquisite taste.

I have dived off the island many times, and there are some great walls there with an infinite variety of sea life and corals. Also, the beaches are very nice and, at least when I was there, largely unspoiled.

GE

Oh GE, Isla reta is a VERY simple place. The concrete bungalows are on the verge of being unhealth due to insects, mold and humidity. I took a gf "from home" once and she cried the first evening. They are built totally wrong for that climate. The toilets in the bungalows are just a notch better than the ones in Victoria mall.

The place XMan mentions is owned by a friend of mine. The houses there are new and waaay nicer, but the beach on Isla Reta is much longer and better, with less coral and rocks. I tend to dislike these caged in resorts. If Philippines would have the Thai style resorts with open beaches where you can stroll for hours, it could actually become an alternative for European sun starved tourists.

The native huts on poles on Isla Reta are airy and quite OK if you are in to simple life, but you can not be to shy when you shag your mrs since the walls are just split bamboo. Anyone seen these native huts know that this is basically one big structure where every room has a separate ladder, 2-4 beds with thin madrases, a patio with some chairs and tables, and a next door neighbor who can hear you fart. No toilets so you have to wear your wet suit and try to make it to the dirty and flooded shared toilets. bring a flash light. Or why not do as a friends mountain gf did - just pulled down her panties and pissed through (on) the bamboo floor. "What! It is bamboo... it will go right through anyway." Cultural differences, but I just love to see these mountain girls getting in to killing the chickens and cooking the dinner while I sip my beer with a buddy in the 30 degree water. Yes I am European and use SI units - 30 degree F would be... well, just like home almost.
I spent many nights just sleeping in my hamaca on the beach of Isla Reta. Dozing off to the sound of the gulf. Few things are more relaxing. So I advice you to try this, but not in a weekend if you do not enjoy listening to 100 drunk Philippinos camping instead of the waves.

While we are on the give away, I want to encourage XMan and everyone else with some adventure in their blood to get of at Kaputian and try the "resort" there. Simple, but an experience. Try the three houses.

Cheers from Barba!

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I've never stayed overnight on Talicud, and thus cannot offer any insights into the resorts mentioned. However, I trust Barba's judgments as he's a man of exquisite taste.
GE[/QUOTE]

Maybe I should add a few points on the motives and points of my criticism.

I was motivated to put it in writing by reading one report where a BM was actually not too happy with his exploits in Davao. His disappointment is understandable once anyone takes too serious those raving claims about Davao.
Another reasons was that I have been told and that more than once by girlfriends of lady friends about rather gross misunderstandings when going on a date. This might be also partly a result of those incorrect characterizations of many women in Davao by that adolescent.
I do not claim that the forum or its members as such promote such rude or let's say insensitive behavior. As the justified criticism of my earlier posts show, the forum has, like many others, as nicely balanced way of discussing and balancing out statements and alert readers get a good idea. This holds true for this thread but not for another part of the forum which is largely a self-glorifying playground. I acknowledge KongKing's in my view correct remark that there still useful bits and pieces in that other segment but, honestly, far and between. I read for amusement and some kind of challenge to figure out the mindset exposed there.

To add a bit of info: Travel in the Southern Mindanao area is pretty safe right now. The police is closely guarding the overland roads. As long as you're not a US citizens and therefore suspected of working for some agency I guess staying in Muslim areas is ok. The Zamboanga Peninsula is not though. South of Ipil with the exception of Zamboange city perhaps is very dangerous right now. I talked to some guys at checkpoints who would not answer and just smirked. My advise would be to talk to Van drivers. They usually are very careful where to go with their own Van. Bus drivers are less helpful.

I want to add a few words of caution to Thaifun's statement that S. Mindanao is "generally safe." It's important to remember that the reverberations from the Maguindanao Massacre are still being felt, and it's even more important to remember that this is the election season--a notoriously unstable period even during more settled times. I suggest that, for the uninitiated, there are only two rock-solid safety zones right now in Mindanao; Davao and Cagayan de Oro. Zamboanga, though generally okay, should I think be avoided for the present by those who are not familiar with the city. It's just too easy to get in some trouble there if you don't know your way around.

Though I know I've made this point many times, Davao is probably not for everyone. It's not nearly as "in your face" with its attractions as say Angeles, Cebu or Manila. It's P4P scene pales in relation to the aforementioned. That said, there are multiple venues for meeting non-professionals and, for those who enjoy the chase and the challenge, there are unparalleled opportunities here. Granted, it takes some work and a modicum of decorum. If that's not your scene, and you're more interested in bagging as many women in as short a time as possible (nothing wrong with that at all), then this place is probably not going to satisfy your expectations.

As to the other forum's serving as a venue for self-glorification, I guess that value is in the mind of the individual reader. I think that it's unbeatable for getting an overview of where to go and where to stay here. Those who don't agree, or who get annoyed at the tone should probably avoid looking at it. Maybe the problem is that some of the members take all of this stuff too seriously; it's supposed to be fun, and when reading/posting ceases to be fun and achieves too much importance, then I think that something's out of balance.

I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GE

Yes, it is spelled Talicud. And yes, it is spelled Talikud (but less often). The Isla Reta Resort sign says "Talicud". They should know! E-Z MAP spells it "Talikud" on its Mindanao and Davao maps.

Google search: Talicud 140,000 hits / Talikud 38,000 hits

I don't know what a "wild coconut crab" is, but maybe you can use some of your social engineering skills and tell us what that might be! :-)

[url]http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/new-adventure-island-called-talikud[/url]

X


[QUOTE=Bronxnik]It's part of Davao del Norte province, whereas the Big Apple is part of Sur.

You can convince guys into rustling up a wild coconut crab for dinner. Money does talk but, the people who are money-oriented have already moved to the Big Apple. So, you need to have ==some== social engineering skills.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GE[/QUOTE]I went to Davao in March & April last year for just over 4 weeks. I had read widely on this board and that of Dragon Slayer and had prepared lists of all sort of things that I wanted to do, places I wanted to go and things I wanted to see. Yes mongering was a high priority. But for a complete experience of Davao I had learnt so much from the very generous contributions from GE and others such as Barba and Dragon Slayer such that my trip was an unforgetable and very full experience of Davao. I love the place and I particularly love the people. What I wouldn't give now to take a stroll down Torres Street, drink cold beer and listen all night to those fantastic musicians all for the price of a hamburger here where I live.

This forum is about sharing information and many put enormous time and energy into this. I am not a great contributor but thank all those who do - because I know that there are many people reading who benefit. Mongering is the first reason we all read this forum, but to appreciate the place, I think you have to get out of your hotel room and experience the city and everything that goes with it.

P

About 70 km east of Davao, as the crow flies, is the town of Mati. Maybe twice that using the roads. I thought about going there but never made it. Mati is not mentioned in my Lonely PLanet, but the E-Z map identifies it as a "local seaport"

Apparently it is a five hour bus ride. This didn't appeal to me. I inquired with one taxi driver and he suggested a 2.5 hour drive (one way) for about 3000. You could probably bargain down a bit.

But, when I was at Santa Ana wharf on my way to Talicud, there was a more modern boat docked nearby. My inquiries indicate that it goes to Lupon town. Lupon is on the opposite side of Davao Gulf and is only about 20km from Mati. If anyone has any information about this alternative route, I'd appreciate it.

Looking at the map, I wouldn't be surprised if there are also boats that cross from west Samal to Lupon. Other than that, I suspect Mati is the port of destination for many of the eastern villages of Compostela Valley which appear to have mostly unpaved roads connecting them.

.... the more I know, the more questions I have....

X

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]As to the other forum's serving as a venue for self-glorification, I guess that value is in the mind of the individual reader. I think that it's unbeatable for getting an overview of where to go and where to stay here. Those who don't agree, or who get annoyed at the tone should probably avoid looking at it. Maybe the problem is that some of the members take all of this stuff too seriously; it's supposed to be fun, and when reading/posting ceases to be fun and achieves too much importance, then I think that something's out of balance.

I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GE[/QUOTE]My apologies as this has nothing to do with Davao but GE's post struck a cord.

I boast on these forums but for me as I have stated countless times its all for entertainment purposes. I tell guys if you’re not a millionaire you have no room to boast about your financial status.

GE I am big fan your posts and have been for the last 4 ½ your isms on PI should be collected and placed in a FAQ somewhere.

All ISG members contribute in some form or another whether it is knowledge, directions or entertainment.

It’s the guys who complain about and harass (in an uncivil manner) other members who make the forum a hostile environment.

And again as for guys talking about fine dining, nice hotels and clothes, I would much rather read about that than some guy posting about how he rubbing pennies together just to monger. For me this is just short of pathetic.

GE has many years of excellent posts at ISG. Amazingly he has avoided the petty (and not so petty) squabbles that come up from time to time.

I certainly never remember him ever taking the tone that Warbucks does in his post quoted below. Warbucks, instead of praising the man, try to follow his examples. (yes, me too....)

He consistently gives detailed and useful reports without insulting anyone directly or indirectly.

X

[QUOTE=Warbucks]It’s the guys who complain about and harass (in an uncivil manner) other members who make the forum a hostile environment.

And again as for guys talking about fine dining, nice hotels and clothes, I would much rather read about that than some guy posting about how he rubbing pennies together just to monger. For me this is just short of pathetic.[/QUOTE]

You never picked a pissing match about something innocuous? OK, maybe you didn't when you were sober.

You information is valuable. Best to keep it in that context.

[QUOTE=X Man]
He consistently gives detailed and useful reports without insulting anyone directly or indirectly.
X[/QUOTE]

.... and we all could probably learn from his example. But we don't and that why the threads can be edgy sometimes. Wouldn't it be so tedious and unnatural if we all were sweet and polite to each other all of the time?

Mind you I do recall him having a pop at somebody who had wound him up sometime. Perhaps it was on the DS forum. Or maybe I dreamed it:).

Unfortunately he doesn't seem to monger much anymore, certainly in The Philippines, so few actual reports. His reports from Cambodia of a couple of years back were the epitome of good report writing and were of great use to me as I visited PP shortly after he had been there.

Thanks X, CS and Warbucks for the kind words. CS, I'm planning to go back to Cambodia in a couple of months, and, if I see anything interesting, I'll report back on that forum. I'm in a pretty settled relationship here in Davao and I don't want to do anything that would unsettle it, which is why I tend to restrict my posts to fairly mundane topics, though I read others' posts about the less-than-mundane regularly and enjoy them.

The problem for me, as it probably is for many who are in relationships, is that you can never be sure who reads these posts, and thus you can never anticipate when one will come back to haunt you. I suspect that there are many more lurkers than posters, and if just one of them knows someone who knows someone who knows your partner, it's nothing but trouble. Besides, being well above the median age of most members of this illustrious group, I've pretty much "been there and done that" during earlier stages of my nomadic life.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]The problem for me, as it probably is for many who are in relationships, is that you can never be sure who reads these posts, and thus you can never anticipate when one will come back to haunt you. I suspect that there are many more lurkers than posters, and if just one of them knows someone who knows someone who knows your partner, it's nothing but trouble.[/QUOTE]GE,

You are so right, mate. And the potential for embarassment or more rests not only with girlfriends or wives. I used to post in the Colombia forum and someone there, who remains unknown to me to this day, copied some of my posts from this forum and published them in another non-ISG like forum to cause me professional embarassment.

Although I have found many, many, upstanding, generous and helpful posters here, our numbers are not without some very sick and spiteful bastards as well.

[QUOTE=Warbucks]I boast on these forums but for me as I have stated countless times its all for entertainment purposes. I tell guys if you’re not a millionaire you have no room to boast about your financial status.[/QUOTE]
Does Peso millionaire count:D

Robb

[QUOTE=Robbaf]Does Peso millionaire count:D
[/QUOTE]

Maybe he meant in Indonesian Rupiah, in which case I am a billionaire:D.

I wanted to thank everyone who helped me with advice before my trip to Davao about four weeks ago. I had the opportunity to meet one very nice gentleman who lives in the city and received help with a particular lady from another gentleman who lives on a faraway island in a much colder part of the world.

I certainly had a good time but could've been a lot better. I take full responsibility for what could have been. Specifically, I made two big mistakes. Both of them deal with how I dealt with that date in Asia website. The first mistake that I made was in not spending a lot more time figuring out how to keep better records. What ended up happening is that I just e-mailed a bunch of women the day before I arrived. I would then check to see who had responded most recently and I would answer them. I met several of these women and they turned out to be very fearful of sexual interaction.

Once I returned to the United States, are found that I had corresponded with dozens of women from this city, most of whom gave the impression of being much more together. If I had very carefully constructed files, I would've had a much wider selection and would have had a much better time.

The other thing that I did wrong was not to be sufficiently clear. In Cebu, this was not necessary. Women understood that we wanted to meet them in order to have a relationship with a lot of sex in that relationship, and we wanted that sex to start from the very beginning. But in this city, many of the women -- at least the ones I met -- wanted to avoid exactly that.

It would have saved a lot of time and frustration to have made it clear -- as my English friend has advised -- exactly what I wanted. It didn't have to be crude as in I want to fuck you immediately but it could have simply taken the form of the date will start with a little walk around town, progress to dinner, and then end with an overnight in the hotel.

There is something about the city which is quite nice. It is a little bit primitive, using that term in a positive sense. I might consider going back, although I would do a lot more preparation.

After reading the latest reports in DS Davao "private" forum here on ISG, and posting a comment which need to be approved by the "Dragon Slayer" himself I am sure he will be deleting the report as he is in charge of sensoring whatever is posted in his thread.
Therefore - this is what I posted in comment to his totally ridiculous report on the comments people post in "his thread".

I am very pleased with the fact that Jackson a long time ago limited his posting possibilites to his own thread, but nevertheless, Jackson should still limit his posting possibilities whenever the smell of alcohol or other illegal substances may be the reason for his stupidity to post instead of reading reports and comments, and sit back for a day or two, reflect, and then post a comment on fellow ISG'r posts.

QOUTE
DS,
You are a LOW LIFE CREATURE.
I have been following you for some time, and you do have good info in between, but most of your posts are truly low life.

I am sure most of the member of ISG are happy that you are limited to post here, as you are an embarrasement to human beings, mongerers or not. BASTA.

GET A LIFE - Mr. Low Life.
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[QUOTE=Dragon Slayer]
Whoever you really are you are a pathetic hypocrite and an ass! What you are doing to Spooks is not only dishonest and unethical, it IS ILLEGAL! You are a sick creature and you belong in jail!
It was only yesterday that I learned what you were pulling and the Extortion and Threats you are making against decent people. I thought Spooks was just paranoid or something until someone informed me of YOUR ACTIONS.

GOT YOU OUT OF YOUR CLOSET YOU PATHETIC ASS! Next is to see you arrested and in jail where you belong. Whether a religious fanatic orjust another criminal (most likely), you are disgusting.

And STUPID! I accomplished a part of what I wanted to do. Determine if Spooks concerns for his safety were real as explained to me by someone last night via telephone.

Now stay the hell off my Forum you creep!

Jackson this creature is trying desperately to destroy a decent guy and is blackmailing and extorting others from this Forum. He belongs in jail but will do what he can to disrupt us all here. Sick, twisted fuck.

Spooks, I owe you an apology for not taking your concerns serious. Just thought you were paranoid or scared of your own shadow. Again, I apologize to you.

Dragon Slayer[/QUOTE]

I've been reading and posting for years on Dragon Slayer's forum and I don't see what the problem is. You might criticize him for being bragadocious. Big F'in Deal.

If you don't like his forum, great. Don't go there.

Personally, I enjoy his posts and go there all the time. If you think he's full of crap, why go there? Why post antagonistic crap on his forum? Just go elsewhere.

You've got to give him credit for posting a lot of info on Mindanao. When your output matches his, then I'll be more sympathetic to your complaints.

[QUOTE=SergeantRay]I've been reading and posting for years on Dragon Slayer's forum and I don't see what the problem is. You might criticize him for being bragadocious. Big F'in Deal.

If you don't like his forum, great. Don't go there.

Personally, I enjoy his posts and go there all the time. If you think he's full of crap, why go there? Why post antagonistic crap on his forum? Just go elsewhere.

You've got to give him credit for posting a lot of info on Mindanao. When your output matches his, then I'll be more sympathetic to your complaints.[/QUOTE]I agree with you totally SergeantRay - everyone has a choice on this forum and I have learnt heaps from him and the postings on his board.

P

I was just reading Marconista's post in DS's forum. It sounds like the spittle was flying from his enraged mouth as he was writing! It's unfortunate that he's not a better writer.

I've never pretended to understand guys like him, who seem to extract some pleasure from their own red-faced outrage. My reaction, if I found a site that angered me every time I read it, would be to simply stop reading it, but guys like this seem to revel in their own self righteousness. They've obviously got some serious psychological issues.

There's another guy (or maybe it's the same guy using two different names) who is ranting on DS' forum about his moral crusade to "shut down the brothels." Guys like this are actually hysterically funny, immersing themselves in sex forums only for "research" purposes no doubt, so that they can gather ammunition to go tilt at windmills. Why these imbeciles think anyone with any authority would actually pay any attention to them is mystifying, but they do add entertainment value to this site I suppose, and to any other site on which they routinely post their outrage.

Since DS cannot post on this forum without giving up his own forum, it seems a bit unfair to attack him, knowing that he cannot respond. On the other hand, I have no such constraints. I think that DS has probably posted more useful information...on bars, clubs, restaurants, hotels and other vital areas of information, than anyone else who writes about Mindanao. The information that he presents is accurate, interesting and timely. Those who aren't interested in what he has to say can simply avoid reading his forum.

Though I don't know (thankfully) either of the two guys currently ranting and raving about DS, I imagine they're misplaced on this board, and would be better off on a site dedicated to moral crusades.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]There's another guy (or maybe it's the same guy using two different names) who is ranting on DS' forum about his moral crusade to "shut down the brothels." Guys like this are actually hysterically funny, immersing themselves in sex forums only for "research" purposes no doubt, so that they can gather ammunition to go tilt at windmills. Why these imbeciles think anyone with any authority would actually pay any attention to them is mystifying, but they do add entertainment value to this site I suppose, and to any other site on which they routinely post their outrage. [/QUOTE]
I must have way too much time on my hands today... I thought that poster name sounded familiar so I did a few searches. That poster name has a rather vile history on display in at least one other Philippines-related forum. Disclaimer: that we might be talking about the same guy is only an assumption, but it is curious if nothing else. After all, his writing style in DS's forum is not that far off his writing style on display at this link.

[url]http://www.vap-ripoff.org/Blog/A_guy_living.html[/url]

Some interesting stories about him have surfaced in at least one of the Yahoo Philippines forums that I know about.

[QUOTE=Finrod]I must have way too much time on my hands today... I thought that poster name sounded familiar so I did a few searches. That poster name has a rather vile history on display in at least one other Philippines-related forum. Disclaimer: that we might be talking about the same guy is only an assumption, but it is curious if nothing else. After all, his writing style in DS's forum is not that far off his writing style on display at this link.

[url]http://www.vap-ripoff.org/Blog/A_guy_living.html[/url]

Some interesting stories about him have surfaced in at least one of the Yahoo Philippines forums that I know about.[/QUOTE]

Thanks very much. I followed the link and made a PDF copy of the page. I'll send it to DS tomorrow. With his picture and with that description, and knowing that he's likely in Cebu, he shouldn't be hard to track down, particularly thought DS' contacts.

GE

No idea about anything here, but it seems this Dean fucked up this guys life pretty good once.

[url]http://www.fortheloveofrex.com/[/url]

B

After weeks in the hills I decided it was time to restock supplies and go to the big city.
It was the first time in 18 or more months that I stayed overnite in Davao. Having been stuck in rather small clubs for a long time I figured to refresh my love for Station 91. I had good times there and meet nice people.

On Friday night the place was almost deserted. The setting had changed. The stage was altered while the main hall had remained pretty much the same.

I noticed a sad lack of female patrons. Before it was easy a ratio 1/2-3 now hardly 1-1. Maybe the girls were tired from work or had a long Saturday shift ahead of them. The sexy dance show did not generate any candidates so they swapped it for sexy male dance. OK, I m out of the place and strolled back home after a while. Bad luck, it happens.

Saturday afternoon I touched base with a gal from DIA. She works as a supervisor for 4 mall shops in Davao. Beverly something. Good looking. Not too small, shapely with all in the right place. On my inquiry what her plans for the evening were, she came up with some problem. She's so shy. Alright. In the end she needed 4K peso as her salary was too small. I signalled that fully understood her situation and advised her to work for a porn website or as a cam girl. Better money and no real intercourse. Adding that I doubt that her performance would merit 4K and guys might feel cheated. I really dont know why she was mad at me after all that good and free advice. Some other DIA contacts turned out to be, yes, gays or simply useless as that Beverly.

Saturday night. I walked in around 12 and the place was packed. First I noticed increased entry prices. Now 40 for the main floor and 30 for the upper parts. Never saw that and never had paid more than 20 (a price that keeps the life stile experts away :) ).
The place had a ratio of 3-1 men. Worse a f..ing gay and a ladyboy on the stage. I did not believe my eyes. The waiter said that they would be gone soon. They carried on singing worse than KTV noise and did a joke set. I was getting pissed like hell. Then came Miss Valentine Day 2010. 5 gals. I tried to detect some fake woman but light was not too good and 2 suspects had their numbers strategically place covering up any incriminating evidence. Next comes, right, the fucking gay and his ladyboy ****. I had a good look around and noticed that at least 50 % of the whole crowd were either gays or ladyboys. Time to leave. The 5-6 good looking ladies were surely busy with their gay friends.
At the entrance/exit I told the old chinese guy at the cashier that he had turned his place into a disgusting piece of shit and that they would never see me again. He made a stupid face. I just added that he could read my thoughts on the web together with a warning. A promise kept. Fuck them.

Sad that station 91 is gone. Venue was no big loss as it was a place for waitresses with an attitude on their day off.

I had a look at Torres and the open air dance places on the top floors. Walked in, immediately surrounded by the same buttfucker crowd. They had no idea how narrowly they escaped a jump over the edge of the floor. Lots of nice gals but mostly escorted. Another time.

I ended up in a rock club. Had some snacks and listened to the music. It was late 2 AM so all women had found their saturday nite lover already.

In sum, 2 disappointing nights but it was good to update. I got the shopping done, fixed the date for tonite back at the other place and will be gone for the next weeks till my flight is due.

Fine dining:
Golden Chicken opposite Gaisano is open 24 hrs. The attractive ladies serve fine deep fry chicken with rice. It goes well with some Pepsi or bottled water. Make sure you catch the pieces when they are freshly out of the fryer. Due to their huge success this place went upmarket. Now it is 26 peso for a piece of chicken with rice. Just chicken is 20 as opposed to 18 before. Never good sick and it is a sure watering hole in the middle of the night. There is a discussion if Jenny's Fried chicken 20 meters up the road is better or not. Well, the jury is still out. Jenny's sometimes suffers from the KTV right next to it which could spoils the atmosphere. Perhaps more critically - they dont keep open all night. Both places draw a splendid array of people. A knowledgeable local business crowd (taxi drivers), aspiring young talent (student ladies), Davao yuppies from the local call centers, and an expat food critic = me. For blowjobs after midnite just cross to the Gaisano drop off zone on the other side of Laurel. Expect to pay little more than for the fried chick but better keep you're eyes closed. It's just like at the bank.
Security is provided by some odd street dog outside that rightly expects some left overs. I m particularly popular as I dont eat the fatty skins. Dogs love me even more than the ladies.

Another item:
As for safety. We had some general advice on this board that rural Mindanao is not safe for election reasons. Well, the last shootout was in Gaisano South with 1 man down and more to come this past Thursday.

I spent weeks in the area, walked alone through dark alleys at night, was in buses, vans, jeepneys etc. Perfectly safe. Unless you're a dirty missionary (evangelical idiots) or a US citizens. The various groups operating in the region do not like visits of US and government forces and make sure no spies come close. When new to a place, I have my 5-10 people inquiring my details and then it's fine. Muslims in Mindanao are very reasonable and after being approved of they make sure you're fine.

Not much to do in the line of hookers unless you're into the scene along the bank near quirino in davao. So be either drunk or terminally ill. I spend my time with the good gals from DIA and in the small clubs.

While walking around Davao alone this weekend. Last weekend I walked into the club in another place, the bouncer greeted me his old acquaintance. We sat down and chatted. A pretty gal came by, not much English. I learned she is the singer of the hiphop band and she likes me. 20 Minutes later she had me in my room. She left around 8 am, I was happy that I could check all joints and a now terrible sore and soft part of mine. Expense? 100 peso for the taxi. She wanted to join me at the beach but we lacked a common language other than sex. Too bad.

Finally:
I m pleased with the energetic debate on Davao. For a long time, I had asked myself can those guys be serious when reading their stuff on the other section. Well, now we know they are not. As we learned here, they (2) write for entertainment and dont want to be taken too seriously. Problem is, the attitudes towards even mildest criticism or expressions of doubt over there do not confirm the disclaimer. Looks to me like a cheap way out and a backing off in face of the facts. Some might think that I m too harsh, dont have the right to make such statements due to a lack of posts or we should just be nice to each other. The last point is well taken but does not apply given the history of flame established by others. Posts? Well, I have probably more days in Mindanao on my shoulders and the dates that come with those than the majority of posters who are not residents here. As my dates are not P4P it is of little value here, plus one needs enough time and sensitivity to operate in those places. Add to that hours on buses and jeepneys. Finally, I do think that harsh criticism is absolutely in place and even mandatory. The entertainment writers simply maintained claims even when proven wrong for a long time as in the case of Camus Str and the convenience store there. They might think that this is funny. Well, it is not. Like with a lot of their other junk, unsuspecting newbies took their info and fell flat on their face. In more developed segments of the board such bluffs would have been outed a long time ago. In the case of Davao there is limited input plus a fairytale land had been created. Thus, the reality check and somewhat energetic discussion here will, I have no doubt, save some other readers from sad disappointments.

Almost noon, time for the bus to the hills. Davao it was nice but tonite is the nite!!!

Thaifun, thanks for fun reading. A balanced picture of Davao, indeed. And to be frank the place gets more dull every month. People seem to have less money. Wonder why, Sherlock? :-) Much has been exaggerated over the years, but a lot of what was written is and was true. But the repetition if these facts made Davao come across as heaven, and it is simply not such an exciting place for neither night clubs or P4P. As both GE and DS pointed out as well, many times.

The pure fact that Station 91 was ever considered one of the best clubs bear witness of what this city can offer. Sometimes when we fall in love with a lifestyle, we get carried away and confuse this lifestyle with the place we are living it in. Once the reality goggles get adjusted we see the location more balanced.

I often get the question from colleges or friends if I can recommend Davao for vacation, and I NEVER said yes. It is useless for vacation, if you do not own a boat or some other mean of transportation. And even then it is pretty far behind many places in Asia, Europe or South America. To go there with your gf is pointless, unless you plan to live there for some reason. Paradise Beach or Camp Holiday gets boring the third time you visit, and where else can you go for a spontaneous beach visit?
I love Davao, and I welcome the adjusted picture of this place. A retired expat who lives with his wife, or a guy with many local friends can and will have a good time, just as anywhere. But to trade Davao for Chaweng, Ibiza, Singapore or London is a mistake.

My last trips I experienced Davao as duller and more quiet than ever. It used to be that you could go out 3-4 nights a week and find loads of people in several places. Music events and pretty ambitious night club attempts was common. Today you risk rubbing elbows with a only a hand full of pinoys and some desperate mongers even on a Saturday.

Barba

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ROFLMAO... me - moral crusade?
I may have only about 200 posts, but been around since the older days of WSG, and there is only one "me" here, with no other agenda.

And - as most posters in the RP, I also dont suffer from verbal diarrhea which some most certainly do. Before commenting on languageskills again, as I have seen is a cool and fun thing by some to do to dupe people; Its a second language to me and most members of the ISG.

Enough said by me on this.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]...his moral crusade...
GE[/QUOTE]

Some very disturbing flaming we have here. Guys threatening to go to the LA on other guys. Guys putting up wanted posters like the old west.

Only thing that is missing is Mattrick who never failed to show up during my flame wars. Perhaps after discussing cheap airport taxis and pointing newbie's in the direction of the nearest SOGO/Eurotel he can weigh in with his immaculate insight.

Marconista

Yes hats off to you people who write in English when your first language is not English. Those who criticise, quite often can not spell cat in any other language than their own. Yet they claim otherwise, LOL.

Thaifun

Thanks for update on Station 91. Sad the faggots have taken over that place.

Entertainment writers, you refer to. I like them if they are not arrogant, braggard, bullying types etc. But sadly that is not the case in that particular forum you were referring to. When Entertainer degrades other people, its not entertaining at all.

I liked posters like 'The Departed', who shouldn't be taken seriously, and new kid on the block Kumba in Bangkok reports. Maybe tiring of latter by now, but he was good for a short while. Departed was crucified by the prudes and has move on, unfortunately. He was a character.

Yes, I think your kind of reports will help the newbies arrive at a more sobering view of Davao City and its potential. As we know, fairytale reports are for adolescents, LOL.

[QUOTE=Barba]Thaifun, thanks for fun reading. A balanced picture of Davao, indeed. And to be frank the place gets more dull every month. People seem to have less money. Wonder why, Sherlock? :-) Much has been exaggerated over the years, but a lot of what was written is and was true. But the repetition if these facts made Davao come across as heaven, and it is simply not such an exciting place for neither night clubs or P4P. As both GE and DS pointed out as well, many times.

The pure fact that Station 91 was ever considered one of the best clubs bear witness of what this city can offer. Sometimes when we fall in love with a lifestyle, we get carried away and confuse this lifestyle with the place we are living it in. Once the reality goggles get adjusted we see the location more balanced.

I often get the question from colleges or friends if I can recommend Davao for vacation, and I NEVER said yes. It is useless for vacation, if you do not own a boat or some other mean of transportation. And even then it is pretty far behind many places in Asia, Europe or South America. To go there with your gf is pointless, unless you plan to live there for some reason. Paradise Beach or Camp Holiday gets boring the third time you visit, and where else can you go for a spontaneous beach visit?
I love Davao, and I welcome the adjusted picture of this place. A retired expat who lives with his wife, or a guy with many local friends can and will have a good time, just as anywhere. But to trade Davao for Chaweng, Ibiza, Singapore or London is a mistake.

My last trips I experienced Davao as duller and more quiet than ever. It used to be that you could go out 3-4 nights a week and find loads of people in several places. Music events and pretty ambitious night club attempts was common. Today you risk rubbing elbows with a only a hand full of pinoys and some desperate mongers even on a Saturday.

Barba

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Thanks Barba for your judicious comments which are, as always, accurate. I would differ with Thaifun on his choice of eating places as fried chicken eateries don't make it onto my list. Other than that, I have no quarrel with it.

As you indicate, and as DS and I have said many times, this ain't the best place for paid sex--in this country, Cebu, Angeles and Manila are doubtless better. There are P4P establishments here to be sure--though it's been years since I've been to one--but there are more an better such places in the aforementioned cities.

However, as your own experiences, and certainly those of DS tend to demonstrate quite well is that, with some style and a little game, it's a very easy place to meet non-pros. I've never said, nor did I ever mean to imply, that Davao is any sort of edenic experience. It's clean. It's safe. On balance, it's a good place to live, with four or five decent restaurants and one or two decent shopping areas. I prefer it to Manila since I cannot stand the traffic there and, aside from Greenbelt and a couple of other small areas, the place is unappealing to me. I also prefer Davao to Cebu, because I don't like Cebu's traffic, it's air pollution or its ever-dwindling water supply.

Out of all the countries in SE Asia, the Philippines is (my opinion only) not the best in which to live. I would prefer Singapore, or Thailand, or Vietnam and perhaps Malaysia. But you don't always get to pick and choose, and on balance, it's not a bad place.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Thanks Barba for your judicious comments which are, as always, accurate. I would differ with Thaifun on his choice of eating places as fried chicken eateries don't make it onto my list. Other than that, I have no quarrel with it.

Out of all the countries in SE Asia, the Philippines is (my opinion only) not the best in which to live. I would prefer Singapore, or Thailand, or Vietnam and perhaps Malaysia. But you don't always get to pick and choose, and on balance, it's not a bad place.

GE[/QUOTE]GE,

How are things politically in terms of safety following the imposition of martial law. I was in Davao over March and April last year and had a fantastic time and wish to repeat but the media I get is very much concentrated and probably exaggerated. I know you travel widely throughout the island but I am specifically talking about Davao. My Manila based GF says I'm crazy to think about going there now but she also said that last year before she fell in love with the place herself. The massacre was shocking and the discovery of the huge cache of arms across the island was scary from an outsider's perspective. The apparent involvement of the elected officials and police makes one have to think about how close things got to a civil war.

I know this goes a long way from the original purpose of this board but you are on the spot and would appreciate your perspective on how things are at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

P

You did not ask me but I just got back from Davao, and it is just as safe or unsafe as ever. Maybe even safer due to the 1000 000 road blocks and check points.

Barba

[QUOTE=Pompolino]GE,

How are things politically in terms of safety following the imposition of martial law. I was in Davao over March and April last year and had a fantastic time and wish to repeat but the media I get is very much concentrated and probably exaggerated. I know you travel widely throughout the island but I am specifically talking about Davao. My Manila based GF says I'm crazy to think about going there now but she also said that last year before she fell in love with the place herself. The massacre was shocking and the discovery of the huge cache of arms across the island was scary from an outsider's perspective. The apparent involvement of the elected officials and police makes one have to think about how close things got to a civil war.

I know this goes a long way from the original purpose of this board but you are on the spot and would appreciate your perspective on how things are at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

P[/QUOTE]
As horrific and shocking as the massacre was, it didn't occur anywhere near Davao, but in Maguindanao, the province adjacent to Cotabato. I've been to Maguindanao on business a couple of times, and believe me, there's no reason for anyone to ever go there unless he has to.

Davao is and will remain safe and secure. On the other hand, it's important to remember that this is election season, and Filipinos settle disputed candidacies with guns and assassinations. This is true not only in Mindanao, but throughout the country. So while Davao is safe, the threat of potential violence (not directed at foreigners), increases throughout the country during the election period.

Naysayers will point to the recent shoot-out on the fourth floor of Gaisano South Mall to dispute the contention that Davao is a safe city. However, the shooting involved one of the Ampatuan (the perpetrators of the massacre) bodyguards trying to kidnap one of the children of Mangadadatu (the intended victim of the massacre). It's most likely that this was an isolated incident.

The atmosphere here is strictly business as usual. The restaurants and bars are full on the week ends, the streets are crowded, and the city is calm. My judgment is that Davao is, and will remain safer than Manila. The press paints all of Mindanao as a Filipino version of the wild west which of course it is not. Most of the violence, whether the Muslim insurgency, the NPA or clan rivalries, occurs in places that no foreigners would ever think of going. CDO and Davao are well-protected, well-policed and remain safe. You need have no worries about coming here.

GE

Ampatuan (the perpetrators of the massacre) bodyguards trying to kidnap one of the children of Mangadadatu

That's the claim of the gunman. The local newspapers repeaterd it verbatim. Pegs my bullshit meter.

Dvo is neutral ground for the maguindanons. There is zero history of them even trying one time, to wreck the peaceful oasis which they both need. Until these Mangadatu guys chased down the Ampatuan guy and murdered him in cold blood. He panicked and ran into a dead end. The cul-de-sac where they have the kitchenware.

Kidnappings are always for ransom in Mindanao. And they are orchestrated. It's a business.

A random encounter in the supermarket, leading to a kidnapping? Not in their playbooks.

History teaches: filipinos never have original ideas. These are not Mossad agents. They are tribals.

Let it be a lesson for the foreigners. You knock up/bug-out-on a chick in Dvo, it's not like being in Manila or Cebu. A police problem.

It's a family-grudge problem, and the fuses are short around here.

[QUOTE=Bronxnik] xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Let it be a lesson for the foreigners. You knock up/bug-out-on a chick in Dvo, it's not like being in Manila or Cebu. A police problem.

It's a family-grudge problem, and the fuses are short around here.[/QUOTE]Correct. But some have to find out the hard way , lol.

I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages/disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?

The advantages / disadv. In relation to what? We aren't mind readers.

Obviously you have the beach, obviously this would be better if you had a gf (or other suitable equivalent) with you. Obviously you won't be able to enjoy some of the nice bars/restaurants that are in Davao proper.

And sorry, I don't understand your last sentence at all. "pay for them"?

[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages/disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?[/QUOTE]

It is an advantage to be on the beach if you like to be there, but a disadvantage if you rather would be in the city.

If you have no vehicle you will be a bit stranded in a Samal resort.

They will in many places charge all guests sleeping in the resort. They will know who sleeps there because they can see them as they enter the premises and the bungalow. I suggest you check in with you girl and pay for a double room.

Barba

[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob]I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages / disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]The advantages / disadv. In relation to what? We aren't mind readers.

Obviously you have the beach, obviously this would be better if you had a gf (or other suitable equivalent) with you. Obviously you won't be able to enjoy some of the nice bars/restaurants that are in Davao proper.

And sorry, I don't understand your last sentence at all. "pay for them"?[/QUOTE]

I mean, the resort wants you to pay the room rate for an extra person.

By advantages/disadvantages, I mean vs. staying in Davao.

I've been in Davao before, I stayed at the Casa Leticia and the Apo View. I didn't like that "room key to get Air conditioning" crap at Leticia so I moved to Apo View, which was scarcely better.

I've spent the last week or so in Davao. I'd been warned that this was a much more conservative place than Cebu but thought that maybe the better foreigner/chic ratio than say Cebu would play in my favour.

After checking TripAdvisor I went for their no 1 recommendation Drifters which is located in an upmarket residential village about 5km out of town. Though not perfect I'm very happy with that choice. Its a small villa style place owned by a really decent British guy called Bert and his wife. Just 6 rooms starting at 1300P (discounts for over 21 days). The rooms and pool area have good free wifi reception there is a pleasant little pool half shaded by palm trees and generally there si a breeze running through the courtyard. the staff are great and after a day oir two if you the sociable type you will get to know all the residents. Mostly foreign guys with a Phils wife or looking for a Phils GF. There is a small pub there which 1 or 2 local regulars hang out in and the food is really very good both British and Phils and reasonably priced. taxis to the centre cost around 100-200P.

The only real downside is the location which is a bit tricky to find (Bert can arrange a free pickup from the airport) . Being a bit out of town its not easy to meet a girl on line and say meet me at my hotel, some will but its obviously easier if you stay at a well known hotel that everyone knows. I would say its a great place if you plan to meet a girl and stay with her for a few days, not so great if you are thinking of getting 3 or 4 different girls a day.

I didn't bother checking out the bar scene here as i heard it is overpriced and poor quality but instead hit my DIA contacts.

If you spend much time on DIA you will probably get quite a few cuties from Davao and surrounding cities such as GenSan, Bislig, Digos, etc. I found that there is alot of "bait and switch" going on. ie girls that will promise or intimate that they will do anything then when you actually arrive reveal that they are no longer in Davao or yes but only when we are married"

The girls 2-5 hours out of Davao in eg Bislig, GenSan will generally say that they will come and fuck your brains out for as long as you want if you can only send them the fare by money transfer. The real one way fare is probably around 100-200P bus fare plus say 100P to get to your hotel by taxi. They will typically ask for 500-2000P . I never send this money as i guess there is a 80% chance you will never see the girl or money. This is awkward if the girl is for real as they will genuinely struggle to get 250P together and need to be 100% sure you will show up and accept them (many guys flake out too).

Most of my DIA / tagged contacts flaked out and actually only one girl was ready to meet in reality. She turned out to be very nice but claimed she had mens (infact she had an Ozzie bf I later found out. Anyhow when she found out I was a decent guy she got on her phone and got a friend to join me who turned out to be better looking than her and red hot in bed.

Unfortunately this girl turned out to be quite high maintenance - rather sulky much of the time and high expectations about being spoiled. Eventually she transferred to the guy in the next door room who is probably more her style, heavy smoker and not as much a cheap charley as my good self. Further work on DIA produced a very nice low maintenance girl - very honest and straightforward 20 year old who hadnt been fucked for a couple of months and wanted to to be banged as hard as possible with no financial reward requested. (Though I gave her 700 for a "taxi" home in the morning.)

In general Davao feels very spread out (and thus 100-200P taxi fares common) , its quite a pleasant place with nice restaurants, but i prefer somewhere more compact. The girls are more Long term GF / wife material than short time funsters (as far as I could see.).

There is a great Korean massage place near Chow King Opposite Victoria mall. Charges about 250-300P per hour depending on type of massage, iT not sexy but you get a nice young girl giving you a proper massage in nice ambient surroundings. i got A Swedish Oil (actually a mixture of all types of massage) massage from Mary Ann she likes to to gymnastics on your back if you are a big guy, which i really like so i recommend her if you like that too.

Thanks for mentioning Drifters Greg London. I always seem to forget that place when I'm asked for recommendations, and it's quite a decent alternative to some of the larger hotels. The problem, as you said, is that it's a bit complicated to find and it's a bit outside the main thoroughfares. I have two friends who stayed there for a year and took three adjoining apartments, treating them as a single unit with two bedrooms and a living room/kitchen area. It turned out very well for them.

GE

Some places have massage, do they also have erotic massage?

I will live on Apo View hotel. I saw that they have massage there, do you think they can give erotic massage if you pay extra?

Joppen, you have many places around San Pedro. Many are very skanky.

Plaza Roman on Cabagio Street is another that was mentioned here about 8000 times.

Many hotels, as well as Apo, can and will arrange erotic massage if you ask (preferably a male from the non upper management staff).

In Galleria they had two numbers. One for a masseuse and one for a masseuse that would fuck you as well.

I met at least one who got a happy ending in the Apo massage. Try and ask. They will not kick you out for asking.

Barba

It's been a long while since I've been to Davao although my last visit there several years ago had been pleasant. I've never tried hooking up with any of the girls there (although I've heard from my long time buddies there about some good looking ladies there that you could bang your balls out for less than 10 dollars). But I'm just curious. Which places in Davao can you actually roam for a pick-and-score? And what are the usual rates? It's been awhile since I last banged a woman and I figured I could find a potential score there. Female college students, from what I hear, are just some of the most exciting things to come by.

Any suggestions or opinions or take into anything about Davao girls will do. I welcome any contact numbers especially from any potential gals you guys might want me to refer to. Just leave it to my e-mail [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue].

Thanks in advance!

Rikki

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[QUOTE=T Pain]It's been a long while since I've been to Davao although my last visit there several years ago had been pleasant. I've never tried hooking up with any of the girls there (although I've heard from my long time buddies there about some good looking ladies there that you could bang your balls out for less than 10 dollars). But I'm just curious. Which places in Davao can you actually roam for a pick-and-score? And what are the usual rates? It's been awhile since I last banged a woman and I figured I could find a potential score there. Female college students, from what I hear, are just some of the most exciting things to come by.

Any suggestions or opinions or take into anything about Davao girls will do. I welcome any contact numbers especially from any potential gals you guys might want me to refer to. Just leave it to my e-mail [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue].

Thanks in advance!

Rikki

[size=-2][u][b]EDITOR's NOTE[/b][/u]: [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove email addresses in the text[/u]. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size][/QUOTE]Why don't you read realistic posts like GregLondon , Barba , ThaiFuns , and others below ? Why don't you read through this thread. All the information is here.

The information you are quoting is comic book stuff.

If it was like you said, Davao would be very popular and full of foreigners, but it is not!

Realistic information is on this thread , all you have to do is read it.

And yes phone numbers of those pokes that cost less than $10 and those College Girls , if you secure them , would be appreciated. No hurry.

Thanks.

atSxxx

I have read the threads like you said. I don't rely on things that are posted eons ago. But I have come across some recent posts that mentioned more than what I was expecting. Thanks anyhow. And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade. It's annoying and the thrill of looking for amateurs is next to zero.

[QUOTE=T Pain]atSxxx

I have read the threads like you said. I don't rely on things that are posted eons ago. But I have come across some recent posts that mentioned more than what I was expecting. Thanks anyhow. And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade. It's annoying and the thrill of looking for amateurs is next to zero.[/QUOTE]

Well my post was just 2 weeks ago.

I think in summary, Davao is a large but reasonably pleasant city. The girls are at least on the surface considerably more conservative than in Cebu and Manila. But with patience and technique you can certainly find some nice ones, however the impression given by your post is of what we would term a bull in a china shop, and Davao is not the sort of place where that kind of approach is going to work.

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Well my post was just 2 weeks ago.

I think in summary, Davao is a large but reasonably pleasant city. The girls are at least on the surface considerably more conservative than in Cebu and Manila. But with patience and technique you can certainly find some nice ones, however the impression given by your post is of what we would term a bull in a china shop, and Davao is not the sort of place where that kind of approach is going to work.[/QUOTE]

Greg L is exactly right. I lived in Davao for 2 years and it is a very conservative city. The girls are very careful about being seen and talked about, and that especially means if being seen with a foreigner.
If you want that College girl scene you described, you will need to put in a lot of work and patience to get anywhere. Unlike Cebu, the girls will prefer that you have your own place and NOT a hotel room.
Even the "organised" sex trade including go-go bars in Davao is much smaller scale than in most of the other big cities.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Greg L is exactly right. I lived in Davao for 2 years and it is a very conservative city. The girls are very careful about being seen and talked about, and that especially means if being seen with a foreigner.
If you want that College girl scene you described, you will need to put in a lot of work and patience to get anywhere. Unlike Cebu, the girls will prefer that you have your own place and NOT a hotel room.
Even the "organised" sex trade including go-go bars in Davao is much smaller scale than in most of the other big cities.[/QUOTE]
I would second the above.. The Davao and Mati girls I know and see in the biblical sense tend not to want to be sen out too much especially if in heels and mini skirts.

When I was last there I went out with a cutie but she was dressed nice but conservatively. The Mati girls I know who bussed to Davao just liked to spend the whole time in the hotel room...lovely :D...but would rarely venture to the mall with me in case realtives saw them So my solutiuon is fly them to Cebu or Manila where they can be less inhibited outside the room and inside....am full of good ideas :))

[QUOTE=T Pain]atSxxx

And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade..[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I was of course referring to a poster by the pen name of Thaifun, I was not referring to Thailand. Thaifun is one of the realistic posters I was referring to, not any country by the name of Thailand.

Philippines is superior to Thailand in some ways, but Thailand is superior to Philippines in other ways.

Main thing I hope guys do not venture to Philippines to exploit the poor unfortunate Filipinas. Treat them fairly, cause compared to us, they have a hard lot in life.

Less than $10 for sex in 2010 is not a fair recompense in my opinion, and should not be aimed at. But then, I can not tell people what to pay, other than a fair price. Whats fair for me and whats fair for others varies a lot.

We look forward to your many and varied posts.

Judging from the last few posts. I see that a few have thrown in their share of opinions. And I am grateful to know that there are people out there who can share a thing or two about the city. Yes. By far. And strongly suggested. Davao sounds and seems more conservative for every post that I see being put up. At least I'm getting a clearer picture as to how the place is going to be. I have been to Manila and Cebu several times and it's been great. But thing is. Shelling out that much for a bunch of sweet honeys just doesn't cut it for me. I've had some worthy trophies in the past but I'm more leanient in terms of financial scale. The thing that attracts me the most about the city (Davao) is that everything there is cheap. And just recently foreigners have suddenly popped up in numbers. At least that's what I heard. I plan to retire there regardless. I think if you get to know some people I could have a chance of landing a gal on my lap. You'll never know. But I intend to give the place a shot. And it's about time I explore the south for once. And. I appreciate the recent posts two fold. But if you folks know any gal willing to hook up I'm willing to take any info that I can get. It's been very helpful exploring through these entries I tell ya. :D

I guess that each guy's experiences are different. However, what's written below about the reluctance of local women to be seen with foreigners, and about how hard you have to work to succeed with a college girl is inconsistent with the experiences of my friends and my own observations. I've said before, and I still believe, that Davao is probably the best place in the universe to score with non-pro, "regular" women. DS, Barba and others have written profusely about their successes in so doing, and I have witnessed this. Before I got involved in a long-term relationship I too had the same experiences. In short, I've witnessed none of the conservatism that others have described.

GE

[QUOTE]Main thing I hope guys do not venture to Philippines to exploit the poor unfortunate Filipinas. Treat them fairly, cause compared to us, they have a hard lot in life.[/QUOTE]It's refreshing and nice to see this caring sentiment, and I couldn't agree more. Most Filipinas have a pretty hard lot, and for them to be treated with respect and kindness by us is a very small price to pay.

atGood Enough:

I'm looking to explore more non-pros. And yes. From what I've been hearing from my buddies down there it takes a bit of work to get around college women. I've been around pros for as long as I can remember. And I don't find it much exciting like I used to. I hear some women (college) do their own freelancing while others still need an aid of a pimp or a mamasan. Either way. I'm hoping I could get a clean score left and right (hehe). It beats having to settle for several of the expensive escorts that I had in Makati and Quezon City way back then. Was also thinking if Davao has any of those low lying massage parlors that gives a bit of that "extra" on the side. I know I did back when I was in Makati. I'm betting since Davao is still a progressing city I can bang a few bucks there for a good massage.

Dragon Slayer and Barba have both written extensively on this subject. DS' posts can be located in his forum. Almost anywhere here--Internet cafes, restaurants, shopping malls, coffee shops, restaurants, clubs--can be productive areas. All it takes is a little game and a willingness to get rejected some of the time. I've said often, that if I were in the market, I would probably just go hang around the area near any of the nursing schools or universities and take a newspaper, a cup of coffee and sit in a high traffic area. To my knowledge, no one has ever taken this suggestion, but it's likely to work.

Dress decently, smile a lot and don't be overly aggressive and you'll succeed.

GE

[QUOTE=T Pain]atGood Enough:

I'm looking to explore more non-pros. And yes. From what I've been hearing from my buddies down there it takes a bit of work to get around college women. I've been around pros for as long as I can remember. And I don't find it much exciting like I used to. I hear some women (college) do their own freelancing while others still need an aid of a pimp or a mamasan. Either way. I'm hoping I could get a clean score left and right (hehe). It beats having to settle for several of the expensive escorts that I had in Makati and Quezon City way back then. Was also thinking if Davao has any of those low lying massage parlors that gives a bit of that "extra" on the side. I know I did back when I was in Makati. I'm betting since Davao is still a progressing city I can bang a few bucks there for a good massage.[/QUOTE]Im no expert on Davao but if you want college girls or other straight girls they are there for the taking. Many are quite game as long as you are friendly in a non threatening way.

CB, DIA & Tagged will get you plenty lining up before you arrive. My experience of college girls is that many, _MANY_ are up for snagging a foreigner BF for fun & profit.

Hanging out in Malls & cafe's near the universities will see you approached.

If you must go for rough trade then trike drivers & taxi drivers will take you to see selections of girls.

Have fun!
AV

It is absolutely harder to get fast punani in Davao than in Manila or Cebu. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Yes, there are many college girls and store clerks that will date you, but it will cost you money and/or commitment in one form or another. If you want to find ONE girl and settle with her you need not to worry for a sec, my friend. You target will be fixed within hours of arriving. No need to look for contact info to girls here. The tricky part, if any, is to get her in bed. In all honesty I often spend a lot of money on girls. And if anyone is still in doubt - so do Mr DragonSlayer. I also find it very easy to get contact with anyone, so I hook up with 1-3 different girls every day normally. Having this said, I have a few friends, as well as other visitors in Davao I met during the years, that did not meet anyone. Just occasional street walkers. Most often these guys relied fully on me or someone else introducing a girl to them. Or else they where doomed to once again jerk off in their hotel room. Sad but true.

So to summarize.

<B>Pro</B>
few(er) options and many times ugly girls.

<B>Short term girlfriends / dates (note the plural)</B>
Many available but expect to pay, one way or the other. And expect to have to use some charm. If you are shy, Davao can a bit tricky.

<B>Long term commitment</B>
Easy to get contact with some prospects, and if you send out the "I am with you to stay"-signals to the girl it will be simple to develop something beautiful with a pleasant and fairly pretty girl.

You write that you will retire in Davao. I would not worry a minute about meeting someone, mate. Unless you have to have a 10 pointer, a just turned 18-girl, a social class A girl, or some other preference that narrows your selection significantly, it will be unavoidable to hook up with a woman.

[QUOTE=Barba]It is absolutely harder to get fast punani in Davao than in Manila or Cebu. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Yes, there are many college girls and store clerks that will date you, but it will cost you money and/or commitment in one form or another. If you want to find ONE girl and settle with her you need not to worry for a sec, my friend. You target will be fixed within hours of arriving. No need to look for contact info to girls here. The tricky part, if any, is to get her in bed. In all honesty I often spend a lot of money on girls. And if anyone is still in doubt - so do Mr DragonSlayer. I also find it very easy to get contact with anyone, so I hook up with 1-3 different girls every day normally. Having this said, I have a few friends, as well as other visitors in Davao I met during the years, that did not meet anyone. Just occasional street walkers. Most often these guys relied fully on me or someone else introducing a girl to them. Or else they where doomed to once again jerk off in their hotel room. Sad but true.

So to summarize.

<B>Pro</B>
few(er) options and many times ugly girls.

<B>Short term girlfriends / dates (note the plural)</B>
Many available but expect to pay, one way or the other. And expect to have to use some charm. If you are shy, Davao can a bit tricky.

<B>Long term commitment</B>
Easy to get contact with some prospects, and if you send out the "I am with you to stay"-signals to the girl it will be simple to develop something beautiful with a pleasant and fairly pretty girl.

You write that you will retire in Davao. I would not worry a minute about meeting someone, mate. Unless you have to have a 10 pointer, a just turned 18-girl, a social class A girl, or some other preference that narrows your selection significantly, it will be unavoidable to hook up with a woman.[/QUOTE]

The above is what I call realistic reporting.

And therefore is helpful to newcomers.

The other hyped up stuff , viz , ride into town screw many college students , find short time free sex or $8 sex etc etc is in my opinion misleading.

You can get college students , you can get $8 sex but its just not on every corner , there are things to do , prices not necessarily cash to pay etc before you get your hands on it.

Other towns have more options. Davao city is provincial in outlook , has its advantages , but if your a whiz bang , thanks ma'm guy , I would recommend other places over Davao City.

Total Pain gave me the impression he thought it was a cinch , it aint , there are things to do , prices not necessarily cash to pay. More so in Davao cause provincial attitudes reign. Give me Cebu City where the ***** mentality reigns supreme amongst the regular girls , lol. There's a little ***** in every one of them , bless their souls , lol.

Thanks Mr Barba , formerly Barbaric Barba , now muchly reformed thankfully , for your realistic posting as above. Nowadays I just sit back and let you tell em how it really is. Job well done. Keep up the good work , I am heading for retirement , having landed in Davao first time , way back in early 1970's.

Mr Barba , what happened , this report of yours deserved Report of Distinction classification. Have they changed the software and you have yet to crack the code ? lol.

Realistic reporting , I like it. Hype I detest. Hence you will see me jump in from time to time when blatant hype appears , lol.

For now , end of this particular subject , for me.

Advance Merry Christmas. Don't forget T Pain we need those phone numbers just as much as you do , lol.

I enjoyed Davao, but it is a bit of work to get the girls there. I only had one DIA contact who was willing to jump into bed with me right away. Everyone else needed more time, multiple dates, meals, chocolates, etc. It was rare for me to be approached in the malls, only happened once that week and I couldn't do much with that girl as I was on my way to a date. That said, there are a lot of nice girls there if one has enough time to explore the scene.

If you want the sure thing, there's always the streetwalkers and the Hot Legs gogos which are not like the AC or Cebu gogos.

Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

I suspect the ROD triggers on long reports from posters with less than say 150 posts. Or maybe there is someone who really reads them all and decides. No idea, but there is at least a slight element of randomness.

Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

B

[QUOTE=Barba]Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.
Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

B[/QUOTE]
Barba I agree you are a pervert....I like to learn from you as I am an innocent :D And yes reporting FRs etc gets a tad boring and sometimes pictures and contacts are abused by some so you get the grief. But for good perverts like you there is no issue :))....but no preggies for me even I am not that kinky or naughty :D

Trust we meet soon

[QUOTE=Barba]Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

I suspect the ROD triggers on long reports from posters with less than say 150 posts. Or maybe there is someone who really reads them all and decides. No idea, but there is at least a slight element of randomness.

Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

B[/QUOTE]Yours was a Report of Distinction , if ever there was one.

You must be a psychic , how did you know I am a pervert who enjoys a bit of sleaze from time to time ?. With its sleazy street scene , that is one area Davao City beats Cebu City.

My apologies to Davao fans , all six of them. Davao is a nice place to visit if you want a change of pace and want to be reminded just how good the rest of the country is for whoring.

KongKing in the Other Areas thread has come up with a comprehensive report on another Mindanao destination , Cagayan de Oro. Recommend folks read it for an update on that scene. I will use his report for my upcoming trip in September.

It's 7pm , time for my nightcap and then tuck into bed.

[QUOTE=Barba]The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

B[/QUOTE]I live in KL and am totally fed up of posting there.

Divorced myself from ISG as theres too many dumb boys and shy boys who either don't believe the adventures we can get ourselves into, or who have a bit of WhiteBoy envy.

Frequently when I've made a stunning report about a great night out with public sex for example, 25 private messages follow, asking for name and contact of the girl. As if she would fuck a stranger who calls her ourt of the blue. I gues to those who live in basements etc the stories can seem a bit surreal. But as we know in the world of mongering, great things can happen when you are in the mood, got game and of course got some readies in the wallet!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]. I guess to those who live in basements etc the stories can seem a bit surreal. But as we know in the world of mongering, great things can happen when you are in the mood, got game and of course got some readies in the wallet![/QUOTE]True, those who have lead sheltered lives will not accept the things we can get up to. But I think most of us can tell the real from the unreal on ISG.

I was hospitalised once, and to entertain the lads in beds around me I told them some of the adventures I have had in life, none of them whoring by the way. Not appropriate in a hospital, lol.

On being discharged one guy turned to me before he walked out the door and said, "God you can bullshit".

He couldn't handle the fact, that he had been married all his life to the same woman and had never been outside his suburb, let alone his own country, and in effect had experienced nothing but the 9 to 5 syndrome, lol.

But I claim those with experience can tell the real from the unreal. That guy in hospital had no experience in life other than paying off a house mortgage and sending kids to school.

I'll be touching down in Davao in a few days. I can't say if the threads posted here are at all helpful. I'll have to see for myself and dive into action (if there's any). But one thing is for sure though. That being a dj can be an ultimate chick magnet (I do a bit of spinning here and there the past several years). I've heard recently from a friend that some popular hangout along Torres Ave. Has closed temporarily due to some business permit issues and whatnot. I couldn't believe my ears. Says MTS or along Rizal Ave. Is still up. Maybe I'll head right through there first thing when I touch down. And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?

[QUOTE=T Pain]And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?[/QUOTE]Nurses, now thats another one, LOL.

There is a person who posts regularly re Davao who invited an internet friend of mine to davao to partake of the abundant supply of Davao Nurses. Friend returned empty handed, said it was all hogwash. They were there yes, but ISG poster could not help him get anywhere near them, LOL. Maybe you can, especially if your young.

Internet friend died about two years later without partaking of the much promoted Davao nurses.

Just about everything is possible providing you put the time and effort into it. Just do not think it will be a piece of cake, like some would lead you to believe.

Nurses and Students in Cebu City are not so difficult to get, but still need technique and strategy.

Yes DIA can be a total waste of time too, as some posters have indicated on this thread before. Its a % thing. You will get some nookie, but you have to work on it, especially with the provincial minded Mindanao girls.

The simple fact is you will have to find the girls yourself, very few if any ISG guys are going to hand over phone numbers of girls to someone they do not know. If your living in Davao City, you have all the time on your hands to develop fruitful relationships.

Take up the challenge, and lets know your results.

[QUOTE=T Pain]I'll be touching down in Davao in a few days. I can't say if the threads posted here are at all helpful. I'll have to see for myself and dive into action (if there's any). But one thing is for sure though. That being a dj can be an ultimate chick magnet (I do a bit of spinning here and there the past several years). I've heard recently from a friend that some popular hangout along Torres Ave. Has closed temporarily due to some business permit issues and whatnot. I couldn't believe my ears. Says MTS or along Rizal Ave. Is still up. Maybe I'll head right through there first thing when I touch down. And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?[/QUOTE]
Some of the bars along Torres were closed by the Mayor after he dropped by and found them serving alcohol after 2AM. I understand they're all open again.

Nurses are bountiful there. I suggest you hang around the nursing school at Davao Doctors College. You can't get into the campus (unless you feel like bullshitting the security guards) but the streets around the school are forever thronged with nursing students. However, it is the summer break here, so you will be limited to those enrolled in summer school classes.

There are also lots of nurses and nursing students around Brokenshire and Limasol Hospitals and the Davao Medical Center Foundation Hospital.

GE

I'll give these ladies a shot on my own when I get there. After all. Money is power. Especially to Filipinos these days. It's one thing that will reassure me for the time being.

Conservatism is a big thing that I notice in the Philippines. I am praying that I could get several women off the hook. And I'm talking about non-pros. As bad as luck may have it since I'm practically new to this forum I will give it a run and see how my encounter goes.

It's too bad I do not have the necessary connections to reach out to anybody. Not that it's a bad thing. I mean.

Yes. Yes. As I've heard recently nurses and students can be quite as tough to approach unless you've got that right timing (and means of getting to the person). I feel like a hawk circling in the sky with this one. For all I know I could end up sitting by the school/hospital the whole day and get nothing. But it's worth a try. And it won't hurt to begin with

I'm leaving for the Phils tonight and will be in DC sometime tomorrow evening. Will be back and let you guys know how this will all play out. Hopefully it'll be the right "bang for the buck." Otherwise I'll spend the rest of my stay prowling day in and out without a catch. Lol.

[QUOTE=GregLondon] [20th March] After checking TripAdvisor I went for their no 1 recommendation Drifters which is located in an upmarket residential village about 5km out of town. Though not perfect, I'm very happy with that choice. It’s a small villa style place owned by a really decent British guy called Bert and his wife. Just 6 rooms starting at 1300P (discounts for over 21 days). The rooms and pool area have good free wifi reception there is a pleasant little pool half shaded by palm trees and generally there is a breeze running through the courtyard. The staff are great and after a day or two if you the sociable type you will get to know all the residents. Mostly foreign guys with a Phils wife or looking for a Phils GF. There is a small pub there which 1 or 2 local regulars hang out in and the food is really very good both British and Phils and reasonably priced. Taxis to the centre cost around 100-200P.

The only real downside is the location which is a bit tricky to find (Bert can arrange a free pickup from the airport). Being a bit out of town it’s not easy to meet a girl on line and say meet me at my hotel, some will but it’s obviously easier if you stay at a well known hotel that everyone knows. I would say it’s a great place if you plan to meet a girl and stay with her for a few days, not so great if you are thinking of getting 3 or 4 different girls a day.

If you spend much time on DIA you will probably get quite a few cuties from Davao and surrounding cities such as GenSan, Bislig, Digos, etc. I found that there is alot of "bait and switch" going on. ie girls that will promise or intimate that they will do anything then when you actually arrive reveal that they are no longer in Davao or yes but only when we are married"

The girls 2-5 hours out of Davao in eg Bislig, General Santos, will generally say that they will come and fuck your brains out for as long as you want if you can only send them the fare by money transfer. The real one way fare is probably around 100-200P bus fare plus say 100P to get to your hotel by taxi. They will typically ask for 500-2000P . I never send this money as I guess there is a 80% chance you will never see the girl or money. This is awkward if the girl is for real as they will genuinely struggle to get 250P together and need to be 100% sure you will show up and accept them (many guys flake out too).

Most of my DIA/Tagged contacts flaked out and actually only one girl was ready to meet in reality. She turned out to be very nice but claimed she had mens (in fact she had an Ozzie bf I later found out). Anyhow when she found out I was a decent guy she got on her phone and got a friend to join me who turned out to be better looking than her and red hot in bed.

Unfortunately this girl turned out to be quite high maintenance - rather sulky much of the time and high expectations about being spoiled. Eventually she transferred to the guy in the next door room who is probably more her style, heavy smoker and not as much a cheap charley as my good self. Further work on DIA produced a very nice low maintenance girl - very honest and straightforward 20 year old who hadn’t been fucked for a couple of months and wanted to be banged as hard as possible with no financial reward requested. (Though I gave her 700 for a "taxi" home in the morning.)

In general Davao feels very spread out (and thus 100-200P taxi fares common) , it’s quite a pleasant place with nice restaurants, but i prefer somewhere more compact. The girls are more Long term GF / wife material than short time funsters (as far as I could see). [/QUOTE]

[b] Drifters Apartelle[/b]
I took GregLondon’s suggestion and tried out Drifters Apartelle, and I too thoroughly recommend it. Drifters is great value for money and a good place to stay for a reunion with your chat mate (my situation), or with a girl friend who will stay the distance. As GregLondon says, it is not the sort of place you would bring in 3 or 4 different girls a day. Speaking of distance, Drifters is about 9kms north of downtown, and a bit tricky to find. There are some good local eateries on the main highway and it’s a short jumping off point to Samal Island.
Drifters Apartelle would be good for a longer-term Davao stay. The rooms are large and the kitchenette is useful if you want to prepare your own meals, breakfasts. I liked the cellar restaurant/bar atmosphere; and the staff were friendly and helpful. An airport pick-up and drop-off is available. More information is available at [url]http://driftersdavao.com/[/url] and a couple of my photos are supplied.

[b] Davao Girls[/b]
There has been a lot of discussion subsequent to GregLondon’s posting about Davao girls and their availability. I think GL was spot-on with his conservative assessment. Davao girls and in particular their provincial cousins require more patience and wooing (gez, that is an old-fashioned word!). And there are more misses than with most other parts of the Philippines is my humble assessment. I have said before that there are 4 stages in a relationship (see: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#post754259[/url]) and for provincial Davao the “sniffing” and “fun” stages take more effort to achieve to reach stage three.

KongKing

Davao is more of a city for meeting chat mates and establishing friendships than for pay for play (P4P). So as part of the relationship building process there is a need to do things, have fun, outside of the bedroom. You can only go to the malls or to People’s Park just so many times before you are looking for new things to see and do with your partner, at least during the daytime. I have been to Davao four times and spent many weeks there over the last few years, and I have previously reported on a number of the local attractions. Blue Jaz Resort is a new one for me, so I report on that and briefly summarise some of the others.

The BlueJaz Resort and Waterpark, is on Samal Island, and is just a 5 minute (15p) boat ride from the Mindanao mainland (not too far from the Waterfront Insular Hotel). It is a new two year old resort, upgraded from what was known as Samal Beach Park. It is alongside, to the east of Paradise Island resort. Entry fee is 90p per head with full use of the facilities except the giant water slide, which is extra. The open-air bar and restaurant have reasonable prices. Last scheduled return trip is 5pm but special hires can be arranged. Some new accommodation is on offer from simple backpacking, to matrimonial units (2700p), to cottages and houses. There are some nice pools, slides, and rest areas; a sandy beach ok at high tide but not much at low tide. It is a good place to rest, or waste, a few hours with your lady. I am giving it a mention here because I have not seen it mentioned before in this forum. More information at [url]www.bluejaz.net/Home_Page.html[/url] A few photos below.

Other locations I or others have previously mentioned are:
Paradise Island (adjacent to BlueJaz Resort on Samal island). See: [url]www.paradiseislanddavao.com/[/url]
Pearl Farm Resort: Far more exclusive and upmarket: [url]www.pearlfarmresort.com/home.shtml[/url]
Eden Nature Park: This is well south of the city and 3,000 feet on the lower slopes of Mt Apo. By the time you have paid for a return taxi from Davao, a local tour and lunch, you would be close to spending 3000p. A few hours there and a local tour shows you much of the horticulture, agriculture, forestry and wildlife of the Philippines. There is a nice swimming pool with a great outlook on a clear day. [url]http://edennaturepark.com.ph/main/[/url]
Philippines Eagle Centre: This is located about at Malagos, an hour’s drive south of the city. It is the breeding home of the severely endangered Philippines Eagle; only one egg hatched here in 2 years! Also on caged show are some 10 other species of birds and a few reptiles Entry fee 50p from memory. [url]www.philippineeagle.org/[/url]
Davao Crocodile Park: Filipinos are proud of their crocodile park, but it is pretty ho hum compared to some international reptile parks. There are other severely penned reptiles and mammals. [url]www.davaocrocodilepark.com[/url]
Jacks Ridge: This is close to the city and a nice place to be on a setting sun. It is the site of a little World War 2 history. It’s a place for a relaxing dinner and serenaded by some local buskers. [url]www.jacksridgedavao.com/[/url]
Climbing Mt Apo: If you need a bit of fresh air and exercise on your own there is always Mt Apo. At 10,000 feet, Mt Apo is the highest mountain in the Philippines. It is a two to three day trip for those who are more energetic. I reported on this climb 2-3 years ago. A permit is required, and a guide is a must. Fire restrictions (like now?) sometimes limit the opportunity to climb.

KongKing

It's nice to see some reality in reports here about Davao. First I would say that there are some absolute beauties in Davao, to me better here than anywhere else. I'm referring to non-WG's or non-pros. I'm no were near the mongering pro as many of you are but can pick up the ladies fairly easy, that being said I would hate to go to Davao cold and no leads. Yeah you can hook up there but you better be ready to work for it. FH was good to me but I did get caught lining up dates with cousins.

If you enjoy paying quintuple the going retail price for a beverage, and listening to melodramatic music played so loud that it drives the speakers into painfully annoying distortion, while surrounded by alcohol-stupor-ified pedicab drivers. The tacky strip clubs of downtown Davao would be your Mecca.

Except as of now, the girls don't strip down any further than bra and thong-panties.

Might change after the election. Or maybe not. Their target audience isn't about to fly up to Cebu, so why should they bother quarreling with the females on the City Council?

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao?

Just trying to find out if its girl friendly and if any one has experiences why not to stay here. Just planning to spend a couple of nights here to meet a girl from DIA, then will take the bus overland to Butuan on route to relax on Siargao Island.

I am still uncertain about even going to Davao as the girl will not send me any photos other than the one I can see on DIA says she dies not know how, Mmmmm, we will C.

Thanks in advance.

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Barba stays there frequently, and the place is definitely friendly. I don't know anything about the quality of the rooms or the services, but you might want to PM Barba for an overall assessment of the place.

The ride to Butuan from Davao is a pretty long one. As an alternative, you might want to consider flying there from Cebu or Manila. When I was in Butuan about 6 weeks ago, the power outages lasted up to 12 hours, so make sure wherever you stay has a generator.

GE

He GE. Its the girlfriend's birthday coming up soon and she has never been on an airplane. Game plan is to take her from Manila to Davao and she will never know about it until we are near the airport.

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.

I did that once at Dakak outside of Dipilog and won't do it again. Maybe I just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I reckon I have met the same girl Coogee. Butuan is a hole of a place and the road from Davao is long , difficult and sometimes dangerous. Lots of banditry along that road and my employer will not allow me to travel it any more. There is a flight between Cebu and Butuan (Cebu Pacific and very short) and also Davao and Cebu so that is a better way to go IF you think this girl is worth the effort.
Why not chase down a few DIA Cebu girls instead? There are far more of them and the experience is likely to be much better. If you are really hooked on the Butuan girl, then make her take the bus trip to Davao and offer to reimburse her. She will need somewhere to stay in Davao (with you of course) so it could work out well and you will be away from the relatives too who may want to freeload off you.

If you decide to go it can be frustrating in Davao as lots of the girls are rather conservative. As I wouldn't want you to go there for nothing, feel free to drop me a line and tell me a little about yourself and if you are this girl's type I'll give you details of the world's sexiest turkey farmer as a backup.

GL



[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao?

Just trying to find out if its girl friendly and if any one has experiences why not to stay here. Just planning to spend a couple of nights here to meet a girl from DIA, then will take the bus overland to Butuan on route to relax on Siargao Island.

I am still uncertain about even going to Davao as the girl will not send me any photos other than the one I can see on DIA says she dies not know how, Mmmmm, we will C.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

several of my girls in Davao recommended this hotel to me so i think it will be fine

[quote=puerto la cruz]i did that once at dakak outside of dipilog and won't do it again. maybe i just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

thank you.[/quote]i also once did the dakak thing many years ago. one hour by noisy exhaust rblowing trike to dipolog, where at that time many trucks were full of soldiers on an npa chase.

dakak had no idd calling system so periodlically had to go into dipolog for idd calls.
dakak, aside from being owned by jaloysius of child [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] fame, also had incredibly expensive beers as it knew its market was totally captive.

avoid at all costs.

For me, the choice would be simple: I would stay at the Marco, as I find the Pearl Farm nice, but way overpriced and boring, with little or nothing to do at night and no place really to go on Samal. You could book a nice room at the Marco, and have an elegant dinner at Claude's Cafe de Ville, or Farfalla or Entree at the Apo View; a place that Dragon Slayer really likes but that I've never tried. Afterward, you could go dancing at Chico's or listen to the live band at the Blue Room, again at the Apo View.

This is of course, just my opinion, and I'm a city boy who gets enough of solitude at the beach after about an hour.

GE

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]He GE. Its the girlfriend's birthday coming up soon and she has never been on an airplane. Game plan is to take her from Manila to Davao and she will never know about it until we are near the airport.

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.

I did that once at Dakak outside of Dipilog and won't do it again. Maybe I just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz].....

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.
...[/QUOTE]

GE is spot on. Unless you and the gf are very cosy with each other the novelty of the Pearl Farm will soon fade (if Dakak was flat for you). I love PF but only good if you want peace and quiet. Take GE's advice. Stay at Marco P. Dine at Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.
Blue Room at Apo is cool. Pizza at Picobellos on top of NE Mall. Some of the bars and videoke places behind Victoria Plaza are fun too, especially if you are alone hehe

[QUOTE=T Pain]I'll give these ladies a shot on my own when I get there. After all. Money is power. Especially to Filipinos these days. It's one thing that will reassure me for the time being.

Conservatism is a big thing that I notice in the Philippines. I am praying that I could get several women off the hook. And I'm talking about non-pros. As bad as luck may have it since I'm practically new to this forum I will give it a run and see how my encounter goes.

It's too bad I do not have the necessary connections to reach out to anybody. Not that it's a bad thing. I mean.

Yes. Yes. As I've heard recently nurses and students can be quite as tough to approach unless you've got that right timing (and means of getting to the person). I feel like a hawk circling in the sky with this one. For all I know I could end up sitting by the school/hospital the whole day and get nothing. But it's worth a try. And it won't hurt to begin with

I'm leaving for the Phils tonight and will be in DC sometime tomorrow evening. Will be back and let you guys know how this will all play out. Hopefully it'll be the right "bang for the buck." Otherwise I'll spend the rest of my stay prowling day in and out without a catch. Lol.[/QUOTE]So long as you try, that is the main thing.

Think you have got a reasonable perspective of things in Davao from the hype masters and the realists.

You keep wanting contacts. Geez if you can't make contact with the girls on your own initiative there is something wrong with your self confidence. Piece of [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] stepping up and talking to them ANYWHERE in the Philippines. The worst they will do is smile and say no thanks.

You say your going to try, thats the main thing.

Thanks guys, Marco Polo it shall be.

I would be hesitant in travelling all the way down there for a girl u have only seen on a pic in DiA. It can be a ladyboy or someone not to your liking.
Even to see her on webcam is not always enough

[QUOTE=Coogee]

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Hello!

Figured I would share some discoveries about buying punani from the streets of Davao. This only apply to short term transactions and has nothing to do with the art of sustaining long term relations or girl friend relations. I am sure many here could add some real wisdom, but since I keep doing the same errors over and over again I better scribble this down and use it as a reminder for myself at least.

The principal of avoiding prime spot girls.

This simply means that the girls holding the prime spots of say Tlonko or Mapa around see Bank are the ones you want the least. Even if they are pretty you need to understand that they earned this position due to hard core whoring over many months or years, This little band of young females are about as far from GFE as you can come. Apply the following equation: Looks 8 (which many of the prime spot girls easily are). Attitude 3. Performance 3. Total score 4. 6 And this is if you get lucky. Many of the prime spot girls will give you a a hard time to even let you stick your dick in them. They are simply useless. Venture off and pick the grateful ones that did not have 800 km of T-Rex in them already.

Do not avoid the ones that do not speak English.

These girls will normally not be found on the prime spots, but rather in the back waters. They are new to the scene and, as log as a mamasan do not get their hands on them, and will most often neither smile or be very talkative. They are insecure and pretty afraid, The difference between these provincial pearls and the hard core *****s holding the primes spots, is massive to say the least. The provincial pearls are girl friend material that will often trigger your male disposition to care for them and to treat them good. In my experience, some of the girls taking a more peripheral position in the sales&display game on the prime spots, will be of this provincial caliber but I did not yet learn how to separate these from the "are you finished yet"-girls.

Avoid tattoos.

This is one simple. 8 girls out of 10 that have either real tattoos or henna tattoos are a waste of time if you are looking for anything even remotely resembling a GFE.

Never pay more than 1000 peso.

Needs no explanation. Even if you have two girls you pay maximum 1000. They second is only there to hide the first girls inability. Or you have picked up older girls and still should not pay more than 1000 peso for both.

Pick up in pairs.

If you can, you should pick up girls with a buddy. This makes the girls feel more safe and, no matter how useless attitude she has, she will perform slightly better since she feel safe and can split the ride back to see Bank with her companion *****. This strategy can however backfire if you happen to get lucky and get GF material. Then your buddy and his hard core hoe will just be inconvenient.

Do not tip.

1000 peso is to much already. No need to tip just because you want to be loved. The girl will forget you within 3 minutes anyway.

200 peso for a ST room is enough.

If you use a room on say Cabagio you need never to pay more than 200. If you want better rooms you should pick Queensland. The so called yacuzzi rooms at Plaza Roman are pretty far from the spa experience you might hope for when you fork up the 350 peso.

She is never what she seems to B.

Both looks and attitude will often fall like a rock in the ocean once you arrived to the ST hotel. This starts already in the taxi normally. Davao is conservative so the ones that actually prostitute themselves openly have mega issues with attitude and compensation behaviors.

The looks in reality is normally 60-70% of a photo (am I not correct all you DIA users?). Take away another 10-15% once she gets her clothes off.

Take the mamasans number and appreciate the benefits of dealing directly with "the manager".

The Philippines is a culture of middlemen and brokers. No matter what you need to achieve, it is often best done with a middle man. The concept of dealing face to face with anyone involves principles as accountability, transparency, independence and pride of ones achievements. God forgive this ever surfacing in any form in the Philippines. So make a point of getting to know the mamasan and plant the seed of future business in her money hungry mind.

The girl is normally totally uninteresting here since she most likely have about the same ambitions for her future as a hooker, as anyone else doing a job you hate and just want to leave. Talk to the mamasan. She is feared and has the power to revoke a deal. Make a point of becoming a returning customer to the same mamasan. She can normally get you what you want.

In my opinion Davao is pretty crappy when it comes to street action. Or I just got picky from having semi serious relations here.

On a side note – Rizal 183 is happening (again). And the Some Place Else area. But the 2 AM ban for alcohol still stands. Only in the Philippines you would try to win votes by closing bars earlier. May this parody be over with so we can enjoy a drink also after 2 o'clock again.

Yes, MyHotel is a good place. Bring a bed lamp though. The light (yes one lamp) in the room is pretty far from ambient. At 1000 peso it is one of the best values IMHO. Location is good if you want to be close to the "tourist attractions" on Rizal.

All the best from Barba

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I agree. Maybe you should pick a very public place for your meeting; one from which you can escape easily if the lady who arrives doesn't resemble the picture you saw. Even more importantly, it's probably a good idea if you don't tell her where you're staying or for how long you're going to stay. At least that way, the worst that can happen is that you waste an hour or so before making up an excuse and bolting away.
GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I agree. Maybe you should pick a very public place for your meeting; one from which you can escape easily if the lady who arrives doesn't resemble the picture you saw. Even more importantly, it's probably a good idea if you don't tell her where you're staying or for how long you're going to stay. At least that way, the worst that can happen is that you waste an hour or so before making up an excuse and bolting away.
GE[/QUOTE]
When I was in Davao, I met someone with a nice picture on DIA near my hotel, but turned out to be a ladyboy. Fortunately, she was well-behaved and went away quickly and quietly. I went back to the picture again, it was real hard to tell because of the way the picture was posed and cropped(?). So yes, a neutral place is advised. I met most girls at a mall or at People's Park. If your date turns out to be a ladyboy, it's OK to exit out right there, just tell them sorry, not interested and leave. Also tell her not to show up with the family in tow. You don't want to be on the hook for their lunch or dinner. You might want to develop other contacts into possible dates in case this one doesn't go anywhere.

[QUOTE=Coogee]Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
My Hotel..good advice given thoiugh personally like the Marco..though am staying Apo View next time

DIA girl...my rule...YM chat and cam and insist on the cam, see her and make sure she is who she says, could be an awful long way to find a LB or worse....(not sure what is worse but you get the drift)...but Coogee if she wont cam with you on chat then she is hiding something and you need to weigh up the risks...or go to Cebu...

[QUOTE=Marconista]I would be hesitant in travelling all the way down there for a girl you have only seen on a pic in DiA. It can be a ladyboy or someone not to your liking.

Even to see her on webcam is not always enough[/QUOTE]100% correct and sobering advice.

Who says its the pic of the girl your going to meet?

I suggest everyone takes the advice of Barba the Beast in respect of Davao street scene.

I consider him the expert in this area nowadays.

Before the beast , it was me and most probably half dozen others , but not any more , lol.

I rented a Honda XRM125 from Benteuer for 800 pesos per 24 hours. The bike was like new, and these guys treated me very well. Their website is [url]www.ardavao.com[/url].

Afternoon Chaps,

I never expected to get so much response, thanks for all the useful information.

Looks like I did not explain myself clearly on my first message. The DIA lass I was planning to meet is in Davao and I was only going to go to Butuan as a stopping point on route to Siargao Island. After my visit in Davao I will now look at flying to Cebu and on to Siargao Island instead of taking the over land trip.

I was to anxious to get a flight booked so have already booked my flight to Davao with Cebu Pacific from Manila. So Davao defiantly happening though only going to spend 2 nights, I have booked myhotel as it seems it has everything I need (cheap rooms, girl friendly and wifi)

Common sense has warned me that something is afoot with the Davao DIA girl not wanting to show me any other photos and the view of the board has just confirmed this. I am a sucker for any one being really nice managed to ripped off in China last year in a tea house scam by a girl with a pretty smile and good conversation, £50 for a cup of tea, lol I should be more wary now.

So I still have 2 nights in Davao. If I decide to meet the lass I have been speaking to on DIA I will take the advice on here and not meet at my hotel so I can make my excuses and make a quick escape if she is not the princess that she has made herself out to be.

I will be taking a copy of ‘Barba’ message with me for some travel reading

My Philippines holiday starts in 2 weeks with flights booked a year ago so can’t wait to get there now. I will let you know how I get on in Davao.

Thanks again chaps.

I suggest you arrange to meet the lady in People's Park. It's got the advantage of being very public and very safe. Also it's located adjacent to many small eateries if you decide you need to take the lady for a cheap meal. There are taxis around all the time in this area if you need to make a quick escape, and it's only a 5 minute ride or so from your hotel.

GE

[QUOTE=Coogee]I never expected to get so much response, thanks for all the useful information.[/QUOTE]Folks on this thread talk less about themselves , and try to help those in need. Nothing spectacular on this thread , cause Davao is not spectacular in itself. It's a place of respite after all the other hot pussy towns cities.

If the person you meet turns out to be a nightmare , please share with us , could make for interesting reading.

Whilst waiting in the park you will get a lot of smiles from young ladies , which you will have to ignore cause DIA might turn out to be a winner. Nominate a specific spot in the park otherwise another ISG monger might snare your lady before she locates you. Indicate what colour clothing your wearing etc , that will help her identify you.

I will be there in October or November. Of late some good posters on this thread , so will carefully read thread before travelling to Davao.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]I suggest you arrange to meet the lady in People's Park. It's got the advantage of being very public and [/QUOTE]It is also a hooker pick up joint at night. Fucking hell. This is not Gorki park. The KGB won't be on your tail.

I feel a lot of guys here have never been on an actual date and have next to zero tact.

If you cannot talk yourself out of a tight situation, you should not be in this game.

If you pay the concierge/security guy a few pesos, he will do your bidding. And if it all goes wrong for you, play dumb. Nothing could be easier.

There are lots of steet walkers in Davao and 500baht should be your maximum. All you need is tact.

interesting that some guys are deadly scared of spending 50-100 peso on a date. I know it can add up but some preparation and screening can limit this.

I like the McDonald at Victoria. Nice to sit outside and meet there. Meeting in a mall and offering an ice-cream is no crime and the ladies usually dont have the change to afford even that. Euro bakery in Gaisano has some nice pastry now and then. So a little consideration, even if the date does not go anywhere, might be nice. Nothing wrong with being polite.

Dunking donuts is also not too expensive and has aircon if it is hot. Often the girls prefer a meeting spot that does not present them out in the open in front of the whole world. People's park is in my view a bit on the cheapo side. I dont suggest, like some adolescent repeatedly did - just to state the opposite a few posts later (understand those turn-arounds who can) and advise an upscale restaurant. It would be just putting up a show, making her uncomfortable, and establishing yourself as a smug.

The Davao discussions often suffer from an unacknowledged misunderstanding. While the ISG is about prostitution, the Davao environment is mostly non-pro, non-semi-pro and just simple dating.

The monetary aspect of dating in RP is often misunderstood as compensation for services. It is, however, mostly due to the simply fact that the girl has no money for the bus, jeepney etc. and, yes, they do need help. Anyone ever helped his ex-gf back in the old country? Hands up! Mine is already. So there is not too much difference in principle.

I would meet in a place she can reach easily without too much jeepney switching. A place that is down to earth like mentioned above or a small and inexpensive restaurant, chowking is still bearable - or try to Mandarin Garden, a little better.


Aside from the coffee or icecream etc. You might like to dress in a shirt and jeans, not shorts. Use of a deodorant is not prohibited in RP, being shaved equals being clean. Ah, maybe the beer can wait an hour or two.

Last time in Davao I saw two sad specimen on Quirino near the Italian restaurant trying to chat up two girls, right on the sidewalk. Aside from a 35-40 years age difference, that might not count, they looked like, well, sorry, skunks although they had obviously the money to do better.

I approach girls in Mindanao like I would in my old place. Respectful, attentive, and not afraid to pay for that pepsi or ice-cream. It also shows some self-respect.

Hi folks,

Spend 5 days reading the whole entire 160 pages. Thats mildly horrible.

I actually seem to be doing this thing of getting to know Davao the reverse way.

Signed up at DIA 3 weeks ago and secure a few worthy targets.

Secured my tickets and rooms two weeks ago.

Start doing research last week.

Digest this 160 page thread in 5 days. Had to work in the meantime, so was a bit slow.

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular..

I just need a quick advice. I will be boarding Cebu at the Budget Airport in Singapore, anyone knows if the DFS sells good Champagne or Sparkling Wine?

[QUOTE=Gust81]Hi folks,

Spend 5 days reading the whole entire 160 pages. Thats mildly horrible.

I actually seem to be doing this thing of getting to know Davao the reverse way.

Signed up at DIA 3 weeks ago and secure a few worthy targets.

Secured my tickets and rooms two weeks ago.

Start doing research last week.

Digest this 160 page thread in 5 days. Had to work in the meantime, so was a bit slow.

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular..

I just need a quick advice. I will be boarding Cebu at the Budget Airport in Singapore, anyone knows if the DFS sells good Champagne or Sparkling Wine?[/QUOTE]

Davao can be hit and miss re DIA girls as in general many are rather conservative when you actually get there (yet have no shame in overpromising and being naughty on YM). A couple of the girls I had good luck with 19 and 24 have been messaging me frequently as to when I will go back (answer could be a long time) so I am sure would be keen to meet you assuming you are half decent. The 19 year old is a beauty who is very passionate and sexy in bed (at least she was with me), is articulate and interesting but has some attitude/moodiness/prima donna issues. The 24 year old is more of a 7 / 10 in looks but slim /no baby very willing and easy going friendly reliable personality.

PM me if you would like these as back ups to your existing prospects.

PS I see you are a regular member so u will have to decide whether its worth to sign up to send messages, its up to you but I cant post contact details here as they will get swamped by messages from all the lurkers here.

Really thankful for the help.

Actually would like to explore first.

In the event that I strike out with the DIA gal,

Don't worry, I will scream for help.

Enjoy Davao on my own first.

Real grateful for the offer of helping hand.

8

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If theres any communication, you can find me with my DIA moniker. Its hidden up in the above message.

Wow the Davao thread is so sleepy right now. If anyone is in town and wants a date a chatmate of mine is keen to meet.

She's 21 av build rather cute, and very keen on sex. College graduate with a real job in an office. Says she is just looking for a fun night out and a good seeing to with a half decent guy though i guess some sort of present wouldnt be unwelcome. If interested, PM me and I'll pass on contact details as Im unlikely to make it back to Davao till next year.

[QUOTE=Gust81]

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular............[/QUOTE]

What about a report Gust81?
I lived in Davao for 2 years back in the early 2000 days. I love the place and had a ball when I was working there.

I am interested to find out what the current scene is like.

Was Insular Hotel OK or was it too far out of the city for you?

I sure could use some company. PM me her contact details while you can :) I'm thinking of getting back into the game once this thing sits through. I was supposed to leave a post-report thread on my current encounters about girls here in Davao. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.

[QUOTE=T Pain]............. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.[/QUOTE]

T-Pain I cannot work out if you are complaining or scoring well or just going with the flow and accepting it..
You seem to have met a few girls including the FLs you prefer but you oscillate between sounding satisfied and then wishing you could do better, even down to asking GL for a hook-up.
I think you should play U2's "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" over and over again.
In my experience, Davao is the sort of place where you don't go desperately seeking but just take it easy, chill out patiently in a good "spider & fly" spot in a coffee shop in any mall and just wait.
If it doesn't happen today it may well happen tomorrow.

[QUOTE=T Pain]I sure could use some company. PM me her contact details while you can :) I'm thinking of getting back into the game once this thing sits through. I was supposed to leave a post-report thread on my current encounters about girls here in Davao. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.[/QUOTE]


I agree this is a rather confusing post but Davao can be a bit like that. Its not the easiest place in the phils to score with non pros and I think the pro scene is rather weak. I do have three good girls there and am willing to PM contact details but I can only PM to senior members or premium members not regular members. As these are non pro girls i cant post their YM/profile or they are going to get lots of dodgy guys contacting them and blame me.

If you do decide to pay site membership and PM me please tell me a little about yourself eg nationality, race , age etc so I can let the girls know what to expect.

[QUOTE=Polyorchid]...rented a Honda XRM125 from Benteuer for 800 pesos per 24 hours. ..... Their website is [url]www.ardavao.com[/url].[/QUOTE]
Can highly recommend this.
Owned by a German pilot, who is in and out of DVO, and run by his in-laws.
Nice staff.
Car and bikes are in good shape, and they dont need much paperwork for Europeans drivers license acknowledement.

-G.H-

For those of you looking for a quickie with a SW, you will find a reasonable selection at the intersection of San Pedro and Pelayo Streets. I paid 500pesos for the girl, and there is a ST hotel very close by. The room is closet-like and the bed is a single that is covered by a loose clean sheet. The room rental is 80 pesos (non aircon). It is very low end. 3 of the 4 girls I had were childless. BTW none of them washed their twats after doing the deed. They just whipped their 20pesos knickers back on, and headed back out the door. They invariably ask for a tip, so I handed over 20pesos.

Very close to this intersection is “My Hotel” (on San Pedro St), which looks like it could be Ok to stay but I didn’t check it out. Room rates on a sign outside indicate prices around 1000p per night.

[QUOTE=Franga]......................
Very close to this intersection is “My Hotel” (on San Pedro St), which looks like it could be Ok to stay but I didn’t check it out. Room rates on a sign outside indicate prices around 1000p per night.[/QUOTE]

"My Hotel" is a new chain starting up all over the Phils.
They are marketing themselves as a "family hotel" so they may not be welcoming to mongers with multiple bed mates. This is just a warning in advance because I really don't know how it might play out so if anyone has any updates on this I'd like to know

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]"My Hotel" is a new chain starting up all over the Phils.
They are marketing themselves as a "family hotel" so they may not be welcoming to mongers with multiple bed mates. This is just a warning in advance because I really don't know how it might play out so if anyone has any updates on this I'd like to know[/QUOTE]

I didnt stay there but a couple of girls i was with who had stayed there recommended it

[QUOTE=GregLondon]I didnt stay there but a couple of girls i was with who had stayed there recommended it[/QUOTE]

Thanks GL but were the girls staying there as bona fide guests or as guests of mongers?
I guess it is a silly question but they may have been with family.

I am interested because there is a big new "My Hotel" along EDSA in Manila and the promo says "Family Groups welcome" which usually, but not always, means that sex tourists are not. Prices look good too.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Thanks GL but were the girls staying there as bona fide guests or as guests of mongers?
I guess it is a silly question but they may have been with family.

I am interested because there is a big new "My Hotel" along EDSA in Manila and the promo says "Family Groups welcome" which usually, but not always, means that sex tourists are not. Prices look good too.[/QUOTE]


They were guests of mongers

The expert on My Hotel in Davao is Barba, who has stayed there many times. I'm quite sure, given that Barba stays, or did stay there, that the place is friendly. In Davao, My Hotel is on San Pedro St. within easy walking distance of Hot Legs 2, but there's not much else to recommend it in terms of location.

GE

Oh yes. Friendly indeed.

They did ask me a few times to turn down the music after 10-11 PM when we had champagne and orgies, but I dragged in multiple girls per days, for weeks in that hotel with no problems what so ever. Some of the guards can hook you up with their working friends. Very cute and young girls at times. Have even some of the staff in my phonebook (many pretty OTJ cleaning girls in MyHotel).

Have fun and maybe see you around.

Barba

[QUOTE=Barba]Oh yes. Friendly indeed.

They did ask me a few times to turn down the music after 10-11 PM when we had champagne and orgies, but I dragged in multiple girls per days, for weeks in that hotel with no problems what so ever. Some of the guards can hook you up with their working friends. Very cute and young girls at times. Have even some of the staff in my phonebook (many pretty OTJ cleaning girls in MyHotel).

Have fun and maybe see you around.

Barba[/QUOTE]

Great news Barba, and "on-the-ground" news too.
Blows my uncertainty about "guests" right out of the water.

Sounds like a great alternative to Sogo.

[QUOTE=GregLondon] .................but Davao can be a bit like that. Its not the easiest place in the phils to score with non pros and I think the pro scene is rather weak.[/QUOTE]I fully concur with that honest , objective , no hype assessment of Davao City.

Use Davao City as a short break from the other hot destinations like manila , angeles , and to a lesser extent Cebu.

Occasionally you will get an odd hot one in Davao City , but dont go there depending on it.

Personal opinion only, of course.

I second Barba. Absolutely no problem with getting guests in. However, did not manage to do any of the cute cleaning girls last time. How did you get lucky? Through the security? Did you have to go to a short time hotel? Will be back there shortly, so info will be helpful. Love to hangout with the local hulk :)

Sxxxx you are spot on as always. I see frustration in the eyes of many guys walking up and down the malls like restless Viagra doped up zombies.

If you are not seeing anyone in particular you should make sure to come newly satisfied so you are at easy with communicating a bit before trying the wiggle the panties of your provincial princess.

There will never be any action in the hotel with any of the staff. This needs to be taken elsewhere like Queensland. Just ask the prettiest one to send you a text after passing her your number. Never let any initiative hang on the girl. Send a distinct message that YOU want HER to text YOU as soon as she get's chance.

The guard-pimping was always initiated after talking to them for a while some wet evening. Just about around the same hour when I am starting to talk their gun off them to do some target practising on Davao eatery (never did succeed with this request). No big deal at all about fixing girls. Asia is a broker culture where commission is a main source of income since childhood. Just ask them if they can not introduce you to some cute teenage friend. But make sure you at some point have tipped him with 3 figures before this request.

Not directed to anyone but perhaps the Australian monkey I met last time;
Be civilized and have some self respect whilst you experience this lovely provincial city.

B

[QUOTE=GregLondon]Wow the Davao thread is so sleepy right now. If anyone is in town and wants a date a chatmate of mine is keen to meet.

She's 21 av build rather cute, and very keen on sex. College graduate with a real job in an office. Says she is just looking for a fun night out and a good seeing to with a half decent guy though i guess some sort of present wouldnt be unwelcome. If interested, PM me and I'll pass on contact details as Im unlikely to make it back to Davao till next year.[/QUOTE]

GregLondon I will be happy to give your lady some attention.

My first trip to Davao will be in October. "My Hotel" is on the list for starters until I find budget accommodations 1000 - 1500 near a beach. Anyone can recommend a budget hotel near a nice beach I would appreciate greatly.

Headed for Davao on Thursday and lining up DIA girls but with low batting average in CDO, I'm not too encouraged. Yes, have RTFF. Will use Dragon's Dining Guide. LOL

Mr. London, I will PM you. I can share some Cebu.

Cheapy

Myself, I feel a bit chuffed about a brilliant statement I made on the Manila thread, in response to folks just talking, some bragging, about free sex, I posted as follows:

"Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive".

Many mongers prefer the smooth shaved pussy but not I.

I'll take black curlys anytime. The look, the smell, the taste is fine by me.

This little lady is not a pro but warmed to the camera. Plenty of hair everywhere.

Enjoy.

Cheapy

[QUOTE=Cheapy]Many mongers prefer the smooth shaved pussy but not I.

I'll take black curlys anytime. The look, the smell, the taste is fine by me.

This little lady is not a pro but warmed to the camera. Plenty of hair everywhere.

Enjoy.

Cheapy[/QUOTE]

It seems that guys like us are in the minority these days. I really hate it when a fine looking lady shaves her pussy. It has such an artificial, antiseptic look, like a department store mannequin.

I love the way a natural, furry bush tickles my nose when I lick it, and the way it preserves a woman's natural feminine aroma. Hopefully the shaving fetish will eventually die out

I arrive in Davao today and will check in at My Hotel. I am looking for GFE and eventually maybe a future wife. Plan to stay in Philip. For 3 weeks. Anyone in town? You could join me for a beer and share your experience or contacts would be great.

Thanks for the reports. Great info!

I'll post my report when I leave.

[QUOTE=Sxxxx]Myself, I feel a bit chuffed about a brilliant statement I made on the Manila thread, in response to folks just talking, some bragging, about free sex, I posted as follows:

"Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive".[/QUOTE]Great statement Sxxxx, for those to whom it applies.

For me, free sex never cost me more than was stated in the reports. Guess its all about choosing the right demographic and sticking with a tried and tested plan. And being a tad familiar with ones surroundings.

[QUOTE=Mjames37]I arrive in Davao today and will check in at My Hotel. I am looking for GFE and eventually maybe a future wife. Plan to stay in Philip. For 3 weeks. Anyone in town? You could join me for a beer and share your experience or contacts would be great.

Thanks for the reports. Great info!

I'll post my report when I leave.[/QUOTE]

I'll be arriving in Davao on Nov. 20 for a week. I'll be staying at the Marco Polo and would love to have a beer and hear about your progress to date.

RG

[QUOTE=Sxxxx]I fully concur with that honest , objective , no hype assessment of Davao City.

Use Davao City as a short break from the other hot destinations like manila , angeles , and to a lesser extent Cebu.

Occasionally you will get an odd hot one in Davao City , but dont go there depending on it.

Personal opinion only, of course.[/QUOTE]I've had good luck with DIA girls the few times I've been to Davao. I've made a point of studying maps and becoming familiar with the local geography. I then concentrate my correspondence on those living in the hinterland, nearby, rather than in town. Then I can suggest coming to Davao for a day or two, to meet up. So, Tagum, Samal, Digos, and GenSan are my preferred 'target' area. The girls know that although they 'could' get back home if necessary, that it would be inconvenient and not expected. However, that proximity to home is both a 'security blanket' for them and an 'escape hatch' for me. I'll probably try the same approach next time I go to CDO.

Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.

I don't know where Claude buys his beef, but I've personally ran into him buying stuff at the cheap wholesale Macro outlet on McArthur. From there, he moved on to Gaisano Main supermarket. Yep, he buys stuff there, too.

I suspect he buys the faux Australian beef which Lisa's distributes. The animals are australia-descended and raised on ranches upcountry in Bukidnon province. It's actually excellent quality and I bet my next cup of 25-peso (with one free refill) coffee at McDonalds Ilustre that none of the clowns on this board could tell the difference in a blind test. Lisa's can (usually) supply Turkey by special order. You might have to cut a deal with a bakery to find an oven that can handle one, though. Filipinos think that frying is cooking.

If you want to buy the actual imported beef, go to Swiss Deli just across the street from Damosa Gateway.

There's a steak joint on Torres which has the imported steaks on the menu.

I like to do morning coffee at McDo Ilustre because not only is it economical, but also because I can watch all the Pharma company sales reps faking their breakfast invoices before they head over to Davao Doc. Amazing how much paperwork they generate.

If you don't publicly present yourself like a used dishrag (rules out most of you clowns, I suppose), you can get the McDo gals to put on a fresh pot of coffee for you. There's your 180-peso MarcoPolo coffee for 25 pesos.

[QUOTE=Bronxnik]Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.
.............................It's actually excellent quality and I bet my next cup of 25-peso (with one free refill) coffee at McDonalds Ilustre that none of the clowns on this board could tell the difference in a blind test. .....................

If you don't publicly present yourself like a used dishrag (rules out most of you clowns, I suppose), ...............[/QUOTE]

Not sure why you are so determined to randomly insult everyone on this board as "clowns" when you sure as hell don't know me or at least 3 other members here who I know personally. All of us are as far away from clowns as you could imagine.

I happen to agree with most of your observations about Claude and his steaks. His secret is in what he does with it after he buys it - ask him sometime.
Unfortunately, your gratuitous insults leads me to believe that you are a bit of a smart arse.
You also obviously don't really have much sophistication when it comes to drinking coffee either, but I will allow you your right to enjoy your 25 php coffee.

Actually, I know where Claude buys his meat, and it is surely not Lisa's meats, but then if you're seriously into McDo's coffee you probably couldn't distinguish the difference anyhow. The best meat sold by Swiss Deli is American Black Angus, and it's excellent. They will cut steaks to your specs with a day's notice.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough]Actually, I know where Claude buys his meat, and it is surely not Lisa's meats, but then if you're seriously into McDo's coffee you probably couldn't distinguish the difference anyhow. The best meat sold by Swiss Deli is American Black Angus, and it's excellent. They will cut steaks to your specs with a day's notice.

GE[/QUOTE]Everything that I've eaten at The Swiss Deli has been good. I find their excellent bread is a particular treat after the hopeless stuff sold in local bakeries. I think they must use cane sugar to make Philipino bread, as it is invariably sweet.
The Swiss Deli bread is the real deal. Several varieties - all of it crusty, chewy, and delicious. To quote Michelin, "worth a journey."

[QUOTE=Questor55]I've had good luck with DIA girls the few times I've been to Davao. I've made a point of studying maps and becoming familiar with the local geography. I then concentrate my correspondence on those living in the hinterland, nearby, rather than in town. Then I can suggest coming to Davao for a day or two, to meet up. So, Tagum, Samal, Digos, and GenSan are my preferred 'target' area. The girls know that although they 'could' get back home if necessary, that it would be inconvenient and not expected. However, that proximity to home is both a 'security blanket' for them and an 'escape hatch' for me. I'll probably try the same approach next time I go to CDO.[/QUOTE]I havent read any of your other reports, but going on this one, you sound like you know what you're doing.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt]Not sure why you are so determined to randomly insult everyone on this board as "clowns" when you sure as hell don't know me or at least 3 other members here who I know personally. All of us are as far away from clowns as you could imagine.

I happen to agree with most of your observations about Claude and his steaks. His secret is in what he does with it after he buys it - ask him sometime.
Unfortunately, your gratuitous insults leads me to believe that you are a bit of a smart arse.
You also obviously don't really have much sophistication when it comes to drinking coffee either, but I will allow you your right to enjoy your 25 php coffee.[/QUOTE]


I dont think that he was going after the bms as such. Reading closely it becomes apparent that he makes some very valid observations about certain parts of the forum which I gave up to read.
Nothing wrong with 25 peso coffee by the way. It is a better price than at Donkin Ds.

Khun Larry, there are several very cheap places both north ans south of the Samal "gold coast" where Blue Jazz, Paradise, Chemaz, Bali Bali and the others are lined up. You can find accommodation for around and even under 500. But you need a vehicle to take you to/from the ferry. These places are simple and do not be surprised if you encounter bed bugs. I even had this at Camp Holiday in an 1800 peso bungalow.

Going out to(wards) Times Beach and beyond on the Davao side you have several places to stay. I do not want to recommend any since the few ones I tried where crap.

The real problem is to be on a beach where you would even consider sticking your toes in the water AND so be close to anything in Davao.

If the winds are favorable and there is not a lot of rain, the water out at Seagull resort and the point can be OK on the Davao side, but this is an extreme wild card. The water on the Davao side is filled with mud, pollution and shit from the squatter areas. Some days the water at the marina out in Lanang can be clear but then there is all the crap floating in the water. And the green belts of puke looking sea weed.

Since the Sasa-Babak ferry runs until 23:00 you an stay on the Samal side, but still will loose quite a lot in flexibility, and have to spend some time and money on transportation.

I have a bike and drive around a lot, and my opinion is that unless you have access to a vehicle, Davao is absolutely not a place where you can combine a clean beach with being close to the action, as for example in many places of Thailand.

As I mentioned before, Isla Reta on Talcud is worth a visit. First time I was there some five years ago it was more quiet but nowadays I would avoid it on weekends unless you enjoy drinking and listening to karaoke mixed up with beach singing. But this can be quite fun on the other hand.

Kaputian can also be fun to try. Have a go at sleeping in the three houses.

On the east side of Samal you have a couple of places to crash. Very simple and calm places. You can for example take aim for Kaanan going the coastal road and just drive down into the villages you see on the way. But this is far from Davao and Rizal street so bring a companion.

Have fun!

Barba

I just got back from ten days in Davao, my first trip to Davao in several years. Davao has its charms, but I noticed some changes for the worse.

First, Hot Legs 1 and 2. I was immediately swarmed in both places. I resisted intense LD and VIP room scam pressure. There was only one decent looking woman in both places. One woman wrapped her arms around my arm and would not let go until I was climbing the stairs out of Hot Legs 2, insisting I give her milk money for her baby. Her waist suggested she has no baby, unless adopted. I imagine this is what Burgos Steet must be like, except homelier. I used to be able sit in Hot Legs and enjoy the nude show.

No more. Bikinis only.

I know some here have always disliked Hot Legs, but for me it compared favorably to the better bars in Angeles. Feminine looking women from Mindanao are more attractive to me than the Samar types in Angeles. Bar fines were negotiable down to P1200 or P1500, and you could sit and have a decent conversation. That is all history now. I escaped both places with only P100 damage (entrance and mineral water).

Hot Legs 1 has temporarily moved next to Station 91 on Recto.

Second, panhandlers are now more aggressive, perhaps due to rice prices or tools caving in to their demands. The more people give to aggressive panhandlers, the more of it we get.

I can't imagine how "Hey, Joe. Gimmee money," in a voice tone from the Exorcist succeeds, but it must. I saw one street punk a couple hours after he accosted me gambling with other punks across from San Pedro College, with a pile of coins sitting next to him.

None of the aggressive panhandlers looked malnourished. The malnourished are quietly sitting on the ground with a hand in the air.

One overweight guy rubbed his stomach and shoved his hand in my face. I said no. He turned around and hopped on a jeepney. He can't afford food, apparently, but he can afford a jeepney ride.

Third, I took a long walk just after midnight on Illustre, San Pedro, etc. I was approached by only one woman. There was nothing near Casa Leticia. Most street sex workers must have moved to the Central Bank area or disappeared.

Next time I visit Davao I won't bother with anything other than normal women.

On the bright side, day passes at the Holiday gym on Torres are only P125. The normal women are as friendly and good looking as before, despite the poverty and influx of cads.

Earthb, the next time you're here, I suggest you visit some of the more upscale places like Someplace Else, Bar 183, or any one of the dozens of bars onTorres St. I do ont cruise around here anymore, and it's been years since I've been in any of the Hot Legs places, but the others I've mentioned seem to attract more middle class women,who appear to be looking for a good time, though not necessarily of the P4P variety.

GE

I skip upscale places unless I have a superb wing person.

My favorite way of meeting Davao women now is to walk down side streets and flirt with women in eateries, sari sari stores, etc. I like the senses of spontaneity and serendipity. These women, unused to foreigners flirting with them, seem the most grateful for attention and affection.

The cell numbers of mall clerks are easy to get, but mall clerks seem a little more world weary, not that I blame them. Wearing caked on make up, standing next to Dickies underwear displays day after day, for a mere few dollars, seems like a soul crushing waste of a degree.

Meeting women by Internet is too canned and boring for my tastes.

Anyone that do not just want to take the boat over to Paradise Beach might find this useful:

[url]http://samalbeaches.com/index.php/Resort-in-Samal-Island/Beach/Resort/[/url]

I was here for 15 days in September. Girlie action was provided by Dateinasia, Filipino Kisses, and some introductions by an old flame that was on her way to get married in the US.

This was the first time I used Dateinasia and I met several girls this way. However, only one was up for any bed sports and even she, a nursing student, wanted some financial compensation. The others were good for dates but proved elusive for anything more intimate.

I've had good results with Filipino Kisses before and it was true again this time, providing 2 petite, slim and ready to go beddy bye. With FK you do need to pay something like $40 to get contacting privileges. But once you do pay you can get the contact info for something like 300 girls.

The intro from my old squeeze was busty and lusty, although her being from Tagum limited the number of times we could meet. I've always found it worthwhile to keep in touch with and stay on good terms with girls from past trips even if they get engaged or married. These girls know my type and also know the girls with just the right intentions (i.e. ready to have some fun even if they really hope for something more serious). What's really fun is to be invited to the old flame's wedding and be turned loose on all the bridesmaids and other female attenders.

Even in 2 weeks most of my time was spoken for and I didn't have a chance to do any real pickup cruising in the bars. I could only observe while I was wining and dining girls that I was taking out.

In September and maybe still now, the hot and trendy place to be was Hybrid bar in the Autoshop complex between Victoria and Gaisano malls. I went here early on a Saturday night with one of my FK girls and two of her Gaisano co-workers. All of the other tables were occupied by groups of 2 or 3 girls, all hungrily staring at me with beady eyes when they weren't staring angry, jealous daggers at my companions. I think it's often true that early in the evening in the clubs is better for male/female ratio and ease of making an approach. Perhaps the more timid girls like to be out early and get a taste of the nightlife and go home before the masses of horny dudes hit the clubs. It would have been interesting to happen on this scene alone and free.

Matina Town Square usually has a good band and it's a good place to take girls on dates. The two times I was there I only saw mixed groups that would have been hard to approach.

The great masses of party goers head for the clubs on Torres Street. These can be packed and heaving, especially on weekends. As it gets on past midnight dance floors get crowded, and that may be the best time to make an approach, while a girl is somewhat separated from her friends compared to when she's sitting at a table. It's sweltering hot in these places. In fact most of your going out in Davao will be in the open air and not in air conditioning, so be prepared to sweat a little.

One cool refuge is the Blue Room in Apo View Hotel. It has bands that play Jazz and Latin music. The clientele here is slightly older, so it's a good place to look for late 20s and 30s women.

There's always Rizal Street. Someplace Else is one place in town that isn't empty even on the Sunday and Monday dead nights. Most of the time I only see mixed groups here that are hard to crack. On an earlier visit in June I did pick up a 30ish pharmacist girl at the inside bar. Henny's De Bonte Koe is always a good place to start the evening with a dinner date and some drinks.

The old Venue complex is now going strong as a call center. So the nearby cafes and Gaisano mall could be seeing an increase in young, well-spoken, service-oriented lovelies.

I stayed in Marco Polo again. Lately I've been making heavy use of the club lounge. The girls love the pastry time from 3 to 5. It seems to make them eager for more sweetness later in the bedroom. Then there are cocktails and eats from 5:30 to 7:30. I got this for $118 a night, pretty good value for what you get.

However, a snitch in the hotel apparently tattled on me to one of my FK girls some time after my trip. My contacts with this one girl have gotten a bit chilly as a result. It's the risk I took for being more visible about my comings and goings with various girls. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened more often on various trips up until now.

[QUOTE=Barba]Anyone that do not just want to take the boat over to Paradise Beach might find this useful:

[url]http://samalbeaches.com/index.php/Resort-in-Samal-Island/Beach/Resort/[/url][/QUOTE]
Barba, lots of good info in that site. Samal is my favorite
place for day trips, I plan to stay overnight on the next trip.

I will be visiting Davao soon and wondering if anyone can recommend any good dentists there. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mahku]
This was the first time I used Dateinasia and I met several girls this way. However, only one was up for any bed sports and even she, a nursing student, wanted some financial compensation. [/QUOTE]
I find this true of 95+ percent of my dating site contacts. I'm quite good at weeding out those that don't want naughty contact. The rest often mention help in chat before I get on the airplane. Regardless the dating site that I use, they usually need 'help'.

Looking for a furnished (upscale) house or condo for February. March in Davao. Preferably Near or between NCCC and SM malls. Need internet access. Must be clean and safe. I am not looking for the cheapest deal, just a great place to stay for the family.

I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help.

[QUOTE=Heehaw; 1101518]I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help.[/QUOTE]Yes well some people have a propensity for hype. They think it makes them important, but in reality quite the opposite.

And the continual promotion of Davao City as some kind of Sex Heaven suits me fine. Less people at other places, where the real action is, LOL.

Head straight for Davao City. Nurses, students, free sex etc galore. That's why on average, there are about six mongers in Davao City at any one time. Got to love it, LOL.

Will be in town briefly for business. PM me.

Spmhog

[QUOTE=Radical Guy;1098841]I will be visiting Davao soon and wondering if anyone can recommend any good dentists there. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Second floor of SM mall. The annex area, not the main area. Cebu quality work at half to quarter of the price.

[QUOTE=Heehaw; 1101518]Looking for a furnished (upscale) house or condo for February. March in Davao. Preferably Near or between NCCC and SM malls. Need internet access. Must be clean and safe. I am not looking for the cheapest deal, just a great place to stay for the family.

I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help. [/QUOTE]It was me that posted the great Marco Polo rate. At the time I booked it, last October, it was $58 (not $55) per night plus tax on Agoda. Com. I stayed at Marco Polo for 7 nights for a total of $490, tax inclusive (about $70 / night with tax).

Now, the price has gone up some, but still a good deal on agoda. Com

[QUOTE=Bronxnik;1106174]Second floor of SM mall. The annex area, not the main area. Cebu quality work at half to quarter of the price.[/QUOTE]I use Dr. Marunel Tan-Gono in Damosa Gate. She's a member of the American Dental Association and is by far the best dentist I've found in Davao. By local standards, she's expensive, though by Western price standards, she's a true bargain. I don't think I can include her phone number in the forum, but if you're interested, PM me and I'll send it to you.

GE

The general pace of work in the Philippines slows to an almost imperceptible crawl during the Christmas/New Year's period, and it's an excellent time to take much-needed leave. It's also an excellent time to catch up with friends. Thus, the notorious Wicked Roger and I decided to take a couple of nights--together with our respective ladies--at a resort on Samal. Since I live here, and have easier access to word-of-mouth information about the growing number of resorts on the island, it was left to me to select am appropriate venue and to book the rooms.

Samal is becoming an increasingly popular mini holiday destination for Davao residents, and there are several new resorts, most of them owned by foreigners, from which to choose. So I asked several expat friends, some of whom had hosted recent company functions on the island, and finally decided on Höf Gorei, a new place owned by a German. I was hoping for a mix of local scenery and charm amplified by a bit of German efficiency.

Beach front rooms, all of which are situated in small, individual cabins, were being sold for P4,500 a night included breakfast and taxes, and this is what I booked, guaranteeing the reservations, as required, with a credit card, with reservations confirmed promptly by email.

What should have been the first inkling of less-than-Germanic efficiency occurred at Santa Anna wharf where, I was assured, the boat would arrive at 11 o'clock, and would be instantly recognizable as belonging to the resort. Well, not exactly. In fact I would not have even known the boat had arrived unless an American guy, who was also en route, told me it had come in. Turns out it was moored at the stern of another boat, and that we would have to walk (while carrying luggage) up the steep, narrow, and somewhat decrepit gangplank of the first boat, wend our way down a narrow aisle fairly crowded with Filipinos, then cross a relatively narrow plank (still with luggage) to the much smaller banca that would take us to the resort. I forgot to mention that prior to the boat's arrival I had called the resort to confirm the location of the boat, so there would have been ample opportunity to give me accurate information.

There were about 12 people on the banca, and the crowd was comprised of foreign men and their girlfriends. To be fair, I should point out that there was a resort staff member on the boat who did assist with the stowing of the bags, to the extent one can actually stow something on a banca. The trip took approximately an hour. For those familiar with the geography of Davao Gulf, we ended up at a spot about a kilometer from Pearl Farm.

We were met on arrival at the resort boat landing by several staff who offloaded the luggage, and presented us with welcome drinks served in a small, not unattractive one- room structure at the head of the pier, following which we were lead promptly to our rooms.

As promised the cabins were mere meters from a small, but very attractive white sand beach. Our cabin was furnished quote simply, with bamboo furniture, and was extremely clean, with a small veranda, with three chairs and a table, all of which looked out over the gulf. The cabin was set in the midst of dense local flora, consisting of a cornucopia of tropical plants and flowers of variegated colors. The setting itself was lovely and the cabin, if not sumptuous, was adequate, though the bed was the typical Philippine platform covered by a thin foam mattress.

I noticed, on entering the cabin, that neither the air conditioner nor the lights were on, and the reason, we were told, was that there was a "brownout." Well, those of us to who live here know that brownouts come and brownouts go, and they usually don't last very long, so we were unconcerned. That is, until WR's lady inquired exactly how long the power outage had been in effect. Imagine our surprise when we found that the resort had been without power for the past 36 hours; not because of a brownout, but because some vital component of the electrical system had exploded. This was downright disconcerting, especially after discovering that no electricity also meant no water, since water delivery is dependent on electric pumps.

WR, perspicacious man that he, is inquired why I had not been informed, when I called earlier, that the resort had no electricity and the query was met by a blank, uncomprehending stare of the sort that Filipinos give when confronted with unpleasant questions. It was then about noon, and figuring that we were stuck in any case, we decided to go to the dining terrace for some lunch.

The resort is built into and against a steep hill, and the terrace, naturally, was at or near the top. So we walked up a pleasant flagstone path and stone stairs, stopping frequently to admire the colorful birds caged along the periphery of the path. I won't belabor the egregious dining experience. Suffice it to say that we ordered food slightly after noon, and when, by 2 o'clock it had not arrived, and our increasingly shrill demands were met by more blank stares and mumbles, we descended, famished now, to our room. At some point during this near starvation experience, we asked when the electricity might come back, and were told that workman were on the scene and that "maybe it will come on by 4 o'clock." Now again, those of us who live here know that the word "maybe" in this context can be interpreted as "I have no fucking clue." The owner of course, was nowhere to be seen, and was, we were told, in Davao.

Fortunately, as we were sitting starving and disconsolate on the small veranda, WR found the hapless young manager, and demanded that he find us another boat so that we could get the hell out of dodge. As this colloquy was taking place, our food began to arrive! The good news is that, as the platters arrived, one by one on the porch, our immediate hunger was sated. The bad news is that the food was cold and thoroughly mediocre though expensive. To cut to the bottom line, we agreed to pay for the food and the P3,700 cost of chartering a special boat, and left the place four hours or so after having arrived for what we had hoped would be a restful, two-day sojourn.

Surprisingly, none of the other guests left, at least none that we could see, and we were told that the resort was full. I guess they were made of heartier stuff and/or had lower standard and expectations.

Our arrival back at Santa Ana required negotiating the same two wobbly, rickety gangplanks, though this time, our luggage has offloaded by hotel staff. Disembarking from the boat, we met two couple who were waiting to tait it back to the resort. We warned them that there was no electricity and not much service to speak of. One of the women told me that they had been staying there, sans electricity, for the past two days, and had left all of their baggage at the hotel, so they had no choice but to return.

The bottom line is that, though we had a somewhat wretched experience (an adventure WR dubbed it), I imagine the resort would have been reasonably pleasant had the electricity been functioning. Under no circumstances however, is it worth the P4,500 price tag, and a more appropriate range and value would be in the area of P2,500-3,000. Next time, I think I'll just go to Pearl Farm.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1107440]The bottom line is that, though we had a somewhat wretched experience (an adventure WR dubbed it) , I imagine the resort would have been reasonably pleasant had the electricity been functioning. Under no circumstances however, is it worth the P4, 500 price tag, and a more appropriate range and value would be in the area of P2, 500-3, 000.

GE[/QUOTE]haven't been to Samal but In most resort islands you can find a place to stay for 1000 php with aircon, indoor plumbing and breakfast. And these days, even wifi internet

4500 is 5 star hotel rate and is way too much (in my opinion, its way too much even if you actually get 5-star hotel service, but I am not the kind of guy who likes to pay extra for asskissing butlers "let me carry your bags sir")

[QUOTE=Fast Buck Artist;1107463]haven't been to Samal but In most resort islands you can find a place to stay for 1000 php with aircon, indoor plumbing and breakfast. And these days, even wifi internet [/QUOTE]I guess we can agree to disagree. I quite like the ass kissing. You cannot find much here for Php1, 000, unless it's a very basic place with zero amenities.

GE

GE,

Let me suggest Bali Bali as an option to Pearl Farm.

Make them turn of the religious shit on the radio in the morning and you will be staying in one of the best resorts on Samal. IMHO Bali Bali and PF are the only resorts that in any way could match an upper-average Thai resort. Assuming you appreciate Asian food, the (non buffet) food in both places has been great when I have visited. If I remember correct the chef on Bali Bali used to be chef on Marco, and he knows how to cook Asian food with style and personality.

Barba

[QUOTE=Barba; 1107739]GE,

Let me suggest Bali Bali as an option to Pearl Farm.

Make them turn of the religious shit on the radio in the morning and you will be staying in one of the best resorts on Samal. IMHO Bali Bali and PF are the only resorts that in any way could match an upper-average Thai resort. Assuming you appreciate Asian food, the (non buffet) food in both places has been great when I have visited. If I remember correct the chef on Bali Bali used to be chef on Marco, and he knows how to cook Asian food with style and personality.

Barba[/QUOTE]Well the email from the 'owber' to explain her side of the cock was interesting and total BS.

As for Bali Bali. Sound a great place for a God fearing man like myself, would fit right in you think. We swapped emails so I know you will enjoy

WR, just as I was spreading the legs of my lovely 19 year old D cup friend, the words of The Lord penetrated the paper thin walls of my bungalow. She closed her eyes, pulled her knees up and apart even further, and praised this mornings blessings to her."Deeper daddy, deeper".

Fine start to another lovely day in paradise.

Seriously, apart from that radio in the morning I have nothing but compliments for this quiet and ambient resort.

Barba

This is my fifth trip to Davao. The first time I stayed at Casa Leticia, downtown.

IMHO Leticia is okay, but that's all. Then tried Apo View, the classic upper class hotel in the same area.

Apo view was nice, with decent pool and good breakfast.

Looked around Marco Polo, but busy location and lack of balconies don't really suit.

Also, the Marco swimming pool is a scorching sun trap located on an upper floor, just waiting to

Inflict 3rd degree burns on the pale of skin.

My preference has long been for The Waterfront Insular Resort Hotel located about 8km north of downtown.

In Lanang. The Insular is located on the beach (not recommended for swimming) with extensive

Well tended gardens and palm groves. Service is very good. Breakfast buffet is outstanding.

Poolview rooms in buildings 2 and 3 have large balconies and lovely views over the gardens, pool and.

Ocean to Samal Island about 2km distant.

Rates for the best rooms run in the $80-$100 range with negotiable discounts for longer stays.

Waterfront is reasonably girl friendly if you are discreet and don't parade a street hooker through the lobby.

I have had several chatmates stay with me and no problems. So for a calm resort style holiday.

I consider this hotel to be one of the most enjoyable in the country. Girls love the ambience of the place!

Hello!

Recently checked out of Apo View and that is still a hotel on my deprecated-list. I just list my main reasons:

- Door men and "guards" are plain unfriendly. Arrogant pricks.

- Front desk staff are uninformed at best. Slow and complicated to deal with. Like an old eastern European hotel, but without the accuracy and knowledge. Just unsmooth in that irrational Philippino way.

- The doors between the rooms lets all sounds and odors / fumes in from the neighboring room. I am a smoke allergic and the neighbor is a smoker.

- The air con is infested with mould; hence it is a constant trade off between fucking your breathing organs up or living in a sauna.

- The windows does not open.

- The pool is dirty.

- Did not bother with the restaurant this time. Had to many bad incidents in the past where the mega rat running undisturbed under the buffet table maybe was the worst. But tried the café, and as always it would be a compliment to call the staff untrained, inattentive and unreceptive. This includes whom ever cooks. A good example of the total lack of ambitions is the "Chicken delight" at 290 peso. I am not exaggerating when I say that the amount of chicken hidden between the two slices of bread could fit on the finger nails of my left hand. Surreal that anyone would actually serve this in a restaurant. A total of five small flakes of chicken, with an area of 3-4 square mm and thickness of approximately 0, 5 mm each. This was mixed with 6-8 tiny cubicles of onion and some mayo. Spread on lightly roasted bread, and served with fifteen (yes fifteen) French fries or the thin and wobbly type. Would rather call it "chicken surprise". Who will get the meat today?

One of endless stupid dialogs with the staff at Apo:

"Are these spring roles, vegetarian?"

"Yes, sur"

"So no meat in them?"

"Yes sur, meat. Pork."

"Ah, so that means they ate NOT vegetarian."

"Sur?"

A few positives to balance this review.

+ Nice old bell boy / man.

+ Good size tea cups.

+ Pleasant jazz in the Café Josefina and restaurant. Billie Holiday and similar style jazz.

+ Location on of the best if you wish to be close to Torres, Peoples Park, Rizal, Tlonko SW:s, etc.

+ At least they have a pool.

+ Decoration in lobby.

+ The garden.

+ Ambient piano entertainment in the café in the afternoon (I know, this sounds like I am 80 years old).

However nice the head manager is, this is just a hotel with very low ambitions. I used to be a member of their loyalty program called Diamond Club, before I realized that I have options that are better. If you can see beyond the slightly better varnish, I would say you are better off in places like MyHotel or similar. There you will at least not pay for a four star hotel, while living in a two star.

Anyone in town should try Buena Terra on Torres. This is in my opinion on the top five restaurant list in Davao.

/Barba

Barba, you should find yourself a job with Tripadvisor. Outstanding talent for hotel reviews. Really funny.

Hi all,

Been in Davao a couple of days now. Have seen very limited talent either in People's Park area or near the Central Bank. Want to keep searching, but would love to have a wingman to travel around with to show me some of the places. Would be liberal with buying drinks and sharing current re: AC, HK, or Macau.

Cheers,

CA

I suggest you take an hour or so and read back through some of Barba's multiple posts on the street walker scene here. There are also several clubs where the ladies are readily available, and all of them have been mentioned on these pages several times. Also, as today is Saturday, you might want to consider hitting Someplace Else, Chicos, Bar 183, all on Rizal St. From about 9 tonight onward. Then there are the dozens of bars on Torres St, all of which will be packed tonight.

I've said often, and I'll repeat, Davao is not like Cebu and Manila. It's much less in-your-face, but the venues abound and they're not difficult to find. If you want more specific information send me a PM.

GE.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami; 1145491]Hi all,

Been in Davao a couple of days now. Have seen very limited talent either in People's Park area or near the Central Bank. Want to keep searching, but would love to have a wingman to travel around with to show me some of the places. Would be liberal with buying drinks and sharing current re: AC, HK, or Macau.

Cheers,

CA[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1145528]I suggest you take an hour or so and read back through some of Barba's multiple posts on the street walker scene here.

GE. [/QUOTE]Thanks. I'm aware of the information; I read through every page all the way back to 2006. I was just saying that I would appreciate someone to share some beers with and share some info firsthand; could have put it into travel reports, but who reads that thread? So I included the information that I had from my (admittedly) limited explorations already done.

I've also pulled up DIA and dusted off my account there, and I'm getting some contacts arranged, but that's slow, and I'm here in Davao for work; I didn't even know I was coming until 2 days before, and it's my first time to the city, so no time to set anything up. :/

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami;1145632]I've also pulled up DIA and dusted off my account there, and I'm getting some contacts arranged, but that's slow, and I'm here in Davao for work; I didn't even know I was coming until 2 days before, and it's my first time to the city, so no time to set anything up. :/[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about the Davao scene but it is never too late for DIA trust me. I just did a search for on line members showing themselves as coming from Davao and there was 6 pages of girls averaging ten girls per page. This search was done at 9. 15pm Davao local time so I am sure you can get a last minute date, I have used this method a few times before when looking for a girl at the last minute.

It's now slightly after midnight, and we've just returned from Henny's immediately adjacent to Someplace Else, the outside terrace of which was packed when we left, with the overflow spilling onto the tables at The Patio next door. And these were only two places. Chico's directly in front of these two places was also jammed. I didn't use Torres St. To get home, so I didn't get a look at the dozens of bars there, but I will bet thy attracted a large crowd as well. As I've said perhaps a dozen times herein, it's easy to find women here if you have just a little game and a couple of hours of patience.

The new Abreeza Mall (which is enormous) opens in mid-May and I'm told that it will house 35 new eating establishments including an Italiannis and a TGI Fridays. I would bet that, as is the case with the TGI's in Glorietta in Manila, this one will also be a very popular gathering place, as will some of the other restaurants that will be housed there. I did hear a rumor, as yet unconfirmed, that Hard Rock Café will also open in the new mall, and if so, I'm sure that it will, as in Manila, offer similar pick up possibilities.

The bottom line is that Davao is teeming with women on the prowl. You just have to know here to look.

GE

Since I am going to be spending the best part of a week in CDO in July GE, you have just convinced me to make the effort and give Davao a try for 4-5 days. It all sounds very sophisticated compared to what I am used to in CDO.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1145758]Since I am going to be spending the best part of a week in CDO in July GE, you have just convinced me to make the effort and give Davao a try for 4-5 days. It all sounds very sophisticated compared to what I am used to in CDO.[/QUOTE]When I moved here seven years or so ago, Davao was a quiet, fairly provincial place, but it gets more sophisticated with each passing year. It is not-and I hope it never becomes-Manila or even Cebu, but the number of high end shops, eating establishments and clubs continues to grow. There's a new high end SM (SM Presitge or someting like that) rising a couple of kilometers from Abreeza. That mall will also doubtless house new places to hang out when it's finished at the end of the year. Unfortunately, perhaps as a consequence of its rapid growth, the city has also started to attract more low end expat residents, but I guess that was inevitable.

Mortman, if you want to get together for a beer during the time that you're here, send me a PM.

GE

Thanks, Mortman and GE, for the ideas, and yes, it was extremely successful last night. Beautiful 19-yr old college student from DIA met me on Roxas, then we went to the same Chico's that was mentioned for drinks and conversation. She just left my room about 20 minutes ago. .

Davao is an interesting place. Definitely less in-your-face than Manila or AC (where I live now) , which is quite refreshing. And I love being able to talk to a girl about culture and politics (I. E. College girls like this one) rather than doing the standard bargirl Twenty Questions.

Thumbs up for me. Be back next month with the same goal.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami; 1145905]Thanks, Mortman and GE, for the ideas, and yes, it was extremely successful last night. Beautiful 19-yr old college student from DIA met me on Roxas, then we went to the same Chico's that was mentioned for drinks and conversation. She just left my room about 20 minutes ago. .

Davao is an interesting place. Definitely less in-your-face than Manila or AC (where I live now) , which is quite refreshing. And I love being able to talk to a girl about culture and politics (I. E. College girls like this one) rather than doing the standard bargirl Twenty Questions.

Thumbs up for me. Be back next month with the same goal. [/QUOTE]If you come back after the 12th of May, Abreeza and it's many new venues should be open. Let me know if you want to meet over a beer when you're next back here. I've never been to LA and I'd love to know that makes it appealing as a longer term place to stay.

GE

Hi,

I read some where about a smallish hotel that has condo type rooms as well, but now can not find the name, maybe some one knows the name has pool as well I think near sm mall/

Cheers,

Ron

Wow it has been awhile since I have posted. I will be visiting Davao again for the 1st time since 07. I stayed at Hotel Galleria near Davao Doctors Hospital before. A friend of mine mentioned a hotel called "The Manor" that is new and in the general area. Can somebody else give me some information.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Andre007; 1148161]Wow it has been awhile since I have posted. I will be visiting Davao again for the 1st time since 07. I stayed at Hotel Galleria near Davao Doctors Hospital before. A friend of mine mentioned a hotel called "The Manor" that is new and in the general area. Can somebody else give me some information.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Never stayed there but one have to say that the location is ok.

Someone was not happy.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298459-d1229025-Reviews-The_Manor_Hotel-Davao_Mindanao.html[/url]

There is always MyHotel that is quite good. Useless staff and no bed lights, but still quite good value.

Please, do report back if you try Manor.

B

[QUOTE=Barba; 1148596]Never stayed there but one have to say that the location is ok.

Someone was not happy.

[url]http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298459-d1229025-Reviews-The_Manor_Hotel-Davao_Mindanao.html[/url]

There is always MyHotel that is quite good. Useless staff and no bed lights, but still quite good value.

Please, do report back if you try Manor.

B[/QUOTE]Thank you for the information on Myhotel. It seems as thou everything is booked her because of the Mason convention and something else. I am actually staying with a "friend" and I think I will head back to Cebu because there are no openings anyplace and it is defeating my purpose

Preparing for the action and giving me a good time

[QUOTE=Sumart;1150793]Preparing for the action and giving me a good time[/QUOTE]Nice work Sumart. Where did you meet them.

WC

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1150921]Nice work Sumart. Where did you meet them.

WC[/QUOTE]I will second that and since I am planning a few days in Davao would love to know where you found them, especially the shorter one of the two, she has the perfect body

Bet there is some guys here that recognize them. .

Glad you had fun Sumart.

B

One defenitely not, because I was her first foreigner.

Enjoy the view guys.

Nice score, Sumart. I think the best looking girls in Phil can be found in Davao. I like them dark.

What a nice sandwich. Thank you for sharing.

I spend a fair amount of time in Davao and Lostwodpun, your statement clearly indicates that the taste between men varies a lot. I find the girls in Cebu in general much prettier. I also like dark girls, and always spend time with them in the sun if we go to the beach. But in general I think there are much fewer pretty girls available in Davao, than say Cebu. Quite a lot of the poor girls in Davao lack of the most basic dental hygiene. Felt like the amount of available hit girls in Cebu was way more than Davao, and that they are slightly more civilized in a good way. For me it is a challenge to, in Davao, find a pretty girl that does not only have air in her head and that actually knows how to chew her rice with the mouth closed. Maybe I exaggerate, but there is some truth to the fact that many of the pretty girls know their potential and seek themselves to the bigger cities to find that pot of gold. Yesterday I had a chat with one really cute girl with a slim waist and heavy tits. 22 years old IT educated girl who traveled to Manila to start a new life. Brain drain often correlates with looks drain, especially if one consider the girls above 22-23 years where the uneducated and / or poor girls starts to become dented by life (read carbohydrates in various forms).

B

I agree with Barba. I visited Davao once, but do not see any reason to go back. Although the people are very friendly, the place is boring and girls can be found prettier, better educated and more available and approachable in many other places in the phils. Incomparable to Cebu, Manilla, Angeles and Subic for girls.

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1155985]I agree with Barba. I visited Davao once, but do not see any reason to go back. Although the people are very friendly, the place is boring and girls can be found prettier, better educated and more available and approachable in many other places in the phils. Incomparable to Cebu, Manilla, Angeles and Subic for girls.[/QUOTE]I completely agree.

Hype artists will say otherwise though, LOL.

I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

Casa leticia boutique hotel,

Casa Leticia business inn,

Apo view hotel.

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

Topmanten

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1156220]I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

Topmanten[/QUOTE]I stayed at the MP hotel before and it was ok, no problems bringing my girl back. But I had arranged to meet in advance so did not need to trawl for a girl so don't know if it is near any particular good hunting ground

[QUOTE=Topmanten; 1156220]I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

Casa leticia boutique hotel,

Casa Leticia business inn,

Apo view hotel.

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

Topmanten[/QUOTE]All of the hotels you mention are quite central, though I suggest you avoid Casa Leticia because it's so poorly run and the food as been cited as among the worst cooked products available on the planet. The Marco is the best hotel in town, central to everything, and totally friendly if you don't mind walking through the lobby of a five star hotel with someone who may be, shall we say, inappropriately dressed. The Apo View is also quite central, and there are those who prefer it to the Marco. It's got much nicer grounds, though the walk to the room can be somewhat lengthy. The Marco has more restaurants, but Entrée at the Apo View has, or so I'm told, better wines and better beef. It's a girl friendly place and also houses the Blue Room which is a nice venue for listening to live music.

GE

Hi GE,

Thanks a lot, so will choose Maroco or apo. Hope both are GF.

TMT.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1156255]All of the hotels you mention are quite central, though I suggest you avoid Casa Leticia because it's so poorly run and the food as been cited as among the worst cooked products available on the planet. The Marco is the best hotel in town, central to everything, and totally friendly if you don't mind walking through the lobby of a five star hotel with someone who may be, shall we say, inappropriately dressed. The Apo View is also quite central, and there are those who prefer it to the Marco. It's got much nicer grounds, though the walk to the room can be somewhat lengthy. The Marco has more restaurants, but Entrée at the Apo View has, or so I'm told, better wines and better beef. It's a girl friendly place and also houses the Blue Room which is a nice venue for listening to live music.

GE[/QUOTE]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1156305]Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.[/QUOTE]I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1156308]I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)[/QUOTE]I am now in Geylang, Singapore and will cover this area. As soon as I printed these pictures I am hitting the streets in search for these wonder knockers.

B

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1156305]Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.[/QUOTE]I hope you believe this yourself.

Cheers!

I thought I had found her but she turned out to be Thai. Tight clam though.

B

[QUOTE=Irony Monger;1156308]I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)[/QUOTE]Then they will all turn into pumpkins. Lots of small and large pumpkins

I think she's actually from CDO.

[QUOTE=Barba; 1156822]I thought I had found her but she turned out to be Thai. Tight clam though.

B[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1156999]I think she's actually from CDO.[/QUOTE]No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.

Hi what is the speciality of cebu nipples?

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1157119]No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Fslag338;1157119]No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.[/QUOTE]Ah yes. I can see that now. Sorry for the mistake.

X

Topman is so full of it, but great to see the fun way people respond. I miss Davao. X

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1156305]Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.[/QUOTE]Actually I bumped into her, she had a photo of your big penis and was wondering who was the owner of it, as she'd like to meet up again.

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1156305]Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.[/QUOTE]Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them?

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1160066]Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them?[/QUOTE]I commend you for being so observant, I thought someone like D Cups would have picked up on that. You have a trained eye, Sir. Hope Topmanten takes your suggestion seriously, and doesn't just skip cost. I await for results from HK.

Great idea, even I haven't noticed it, even after sleeping 3 nights with her!

Hope to find her some place some time, because the world is round.

QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1160066]Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them? [/QUOTE]

We just came back from our first night-time venture to Ayala-Abreeza Mall, as I had made reservations at Italiannis for 8 this evening.

The first word of caution; do not take your own car. The underground parking lot was full, as apparently it always is on Saturdays and Sundays. Fortunately, I knew this, so we arrived by taxi which is the much smarter alternative.

As we were early, we went first to TGI Fridays for a drink, before going across the entrance hall for dinner at Italiannis. Both restaurants are owned and managed by the same group, so it's easy to flit between the two. Ti's was packed. There was not a seat to be had at any table. This is a typical TGI's serving basically American comfort food, but very well done. The service was, in a word, perfect, and ambience typical TGI and the crowd was festive. There's no doubt that Davao was ready for this. The prices are about the same as in the US and Manila, so this is no bargain restaurant and it's pretty clear that the people eating here are upper middle class folks. The crowd was well dressed, well behaved, and hungry. We sat at the bar, which was also full, and had ample opportunity to view the scene. The 15-20 tables outside were also full. This is not a place to pick up women. However, it's a great place to take your conquest of the night before for drinks and dinner and its obviously become, in very short order, a place to see and be seen. There were lots of expats with their local ladies, but by and large the crowd was upper middle class Filipinos.

The same goes for italiannis, which is a bit higher end, a bit more expensive, and as the name implied, with an Italian menu. The wine list is disappointingly small, but the Chianti (P1575) was served chilled, presented with appropriate wine glasses and served well. I was impressed that I was offered a taste of any wine on the list. This is the first time I've ever been offered this service in the Philippines.

The service was impeccable. The place has only been open for a couple of weeks but it's obvious that the company spent lots of time training the staff. The four of us started with three appetizers: stuffed mushrooms, antipasto, and mussels, and they were all excellent. Served hot, well presented and the portions were large. I had a fettucini alfredo with proscutto ham that was excellent, and again, well presented. The bill for the four of us was Php5, 900, so it's not an inexpensive place to eat, but it's good value for money. Again, this is not a pick up place, and there's zero chance of meeting someone here by chance. The restaurant seats about 120 people and it was full, turning over at least once while we were there, and our reservation was for 8 o'clock, so presumably the place turned over 3 or 4 times.

Italiannis is not a "dressy" or a "formal" restaurant, as those who have visited the restaurant in Greenbelt or Glorietta in Manila will recognize. However, it's extremely attractive and the food is very good. I'm sure it will become part of our regular circuit. For those wanting a standard of cost comparison, it's about 20% more costly than Henny's and about the same as Claude's Café de Ville, but a much difference ambience than either.

All in all, the two restaurants are, for me, welcome and needed additions to the Davao restaurant scene, and offer additional alternatives to the normal fare.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1162486]We just came back from our first night-time venture to Ayala-Abreeza Mall, as I had made reservations at Italiannis for 8 this evening.

The first word of caution; do not take your own car. The underground parking lot was full, as apparently it always is on Saturdays and Sundays. Fortunately, I knew this, so we arrived by taxi which is the much smarter alternative.

As we were early, we went first to TGI Fridays for a drink, before going across the entrance hall for dinner at Italiannis. Both restaurants are owned and managed by the same group, so it's easy to flit between the two. Ti's was packed. There was not a seat to be had at any table. This is a typical TGI's serving basically American comfort food, but very well done. The service was, in a word, perfect, and ambience typical TGI and the crowd was festive. There's no doubt that Davao was ready for this. The prices are about the same as in the US and Manila, so this is no bargain restaurant and it's pretty clear that the people eating here are upper middle class folks. The crowd was well dressed, well behaved, and hungry. We sat at the bar, which was also full, and had ample opportunity to view the scene. The 15-20 tables outside were also full. This is not a place to pick up women. However, it's a great place to take your conquest of the night before for drinks and dinner and its obviously become, in very short order, a place to see and be seen. There were lots of expats with their local ladies, but by and large the crowd was upper middle class Filipinos.

The same goes for italiannis, which is a bit higher end, a bit more expensive, and as the name implied, with an Italian menu. The wine list is disappointingly small, but the Chianti (P1575) was served chilled, presented with appropriate wine glasses and served well. I was impressed that I was offered a taste of any wine on the list. This is the first time I've ever been offered this service in the Philippines.

The service was impeccable. The place has only been open for a couple of weeks but it's obvious that the company spent lots of time training the staff. The four of us started with three appetizers: stuffed mushrooms, antipasto, and mussels, and they were all excellent. Served hot, well presented and the portions were large. I had a fettucini alfredo with proscutto ham that was excellent, and again, well presented. The bill for the four of us was Php5, 900, so it's not an inexpensive place to eat, but it's good value for money. Again, this is not a pick up place, and there's zero chance of meeting someone here by chance. The restaurant seats about 120 people and it was full, turning over at least once while we were there, and our reservation was for 8 o'clock, so presumably the place turned over 3 or 4 times.

Italiannis is not a "dressy" or a "formal" restaurant, as those who have visited the restaurant in Greenbelt or Glorietta in Manila will recognize. However, it's extremely attractive and the food is very good. I'm sure it will become part of our regular circuit. For those wanting a standard of cost comparison, it's about 20% more costly than Henny's and about the same as Claude's Café de Ville, but a much difference ambience than either.

All in all, the two restaurants are, for me, welcome and needed additions to the Davao restaurant scene, and offer additional alternatives to the normal fare.

GE[/QUOTE]Well it's nice to see Davao finally getting some decent non-Asian dining alternatives to Farfalle and Henny's. But I have to say I was not that impressed by the Italiannis in Manila (I've eaten at the ones in Pasig and Makati) so I have avoided them since wherever I find one. Maybe it is better now?

Regarding TGI Friday's, I've eaten at the one in Robinson's Place, Ermita and I wasn't that impressed by it either. But I can see the demand for these places in a city like Davao so I hope this is a precursor to more alternatives by enterprising chefs and restaurant owners willing to locate there. Dang I got to get back there someday.

I wasn't trying to indicate that either of the two restaurants mentioned in my post-Italiannis and TGI Fridays-represent gourmet tastes. Both offer decent food and enjoyable experiences, and there isn't an abundance of such places in Davao. I should have added that Tshuru (sp?) , the Japanese restaurant with a large branch in downtown Davao has also opened in Abreeza as has, I think, Hanoi, its sister restaurant that serves of course Vietnamese food. A small Starbucks and larger Coffee Bean have also opened or are about to open, thus presenting more alternatives. Someone told me that there are approximately 35 places to eat in the mall, though some of these are no more than fast food eatery-type establishments, including McDo. I like Friday's hamburgers, wings and other, similar fare and I appreciate the generally friendly attitude of the wait staff. However, Davao has lamentably few options offering a real "dining" experience. It's not Makati-or even Cebu- by a long shot and probably never will come close to the variety offered there.

There is only (sadly) one French restaurant in Davao. Fortunately it's an excellent restaurant, serviing very typical Bistro / Brasserie-type food. I speak of course of Café de Ville (Claude's) on Rizal St. Claude has been absent for the last six months, having returned to France to attend to some serious health-related concerns, and the restaurant suffered from his absence. The good news is that he's back and the food and service are as impeccable as ever. Tonight, we went there, five of us, both to welcome him back and to enjoy, once again, a little corner of France amidst the urban chaos of Davao. The food and service were excellent, though the bill for the five of use was, at Php19, 000 fairly steep. I should point out though that the total included a bottle of Taittinger Champagne (perfectly chilled) , a lovely bottle of ChateauneufduPape, and a decent Remy Martin after dinner. So basically Php11, 000 of the total was attributable to wine of one sort or another.

If you're a devotée of French food, this is still the place to go in Davao. I had an excellent Magret de Canard (duck breast) in orange sauce, preceeded by perfectly cooked escargots provençal that were the equivalent in quality to what I would have gotten in France. The desert of crêpes suzettes was also excellent. If you're looking for quality dining à la façon française in Davao, then this is the place to go. We got to the restuarant at about 7:30 and left at about 10:30, so this really was a dining, as opposed to a more prosaic eating experience.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1165068]There is only (sadly) one French restaurant in Davao. Fortunately it's an excellent restaurant, serviing very typical Bistro / Brasserie-type food. I speak of course of Café de Ville (Claude's) on Rizal St. Claude has been absent for the last six months, having returned to France to attend to some serious health-related concerns, and the restaurant suffered from his absence. The good news is that he's back and the food and service are as impeccable as ever. Tonight, we went there, five of us, both to welcome him back and to enjoy, once again, a little corner of France amidst the urban chaos of Davao. The food and service were excellent, though the bill for the five of use was, at Php19, 000 fairly steep. I should point out though that the total included a bottle of Taittinger Champagne (perfectly chilled) , a lovely bottle of ChateauneufduPape, and a decent Remy Martin after dinner. So basically Php11, 000 of the total was attributable to wine of one sort or another.

If you're a devotée of French food, this is still the place to go in Davao. I had an excellent Magret de Canard (duck breast) in orange sauce, preceeded by perfectly cooked escargots provençal that were the equivalent in quality to what I would have gotten in France. The desert of crêpes suzettes was also excellent. If you're looking for quality dining à la façon française in Davao, then this is the place to go. We got to the restuarant at about 7:30 and left at about 10:30, so this really was a dining, as opposed to a more prosaic eating experience.

GE[/QUOTE]GE your post just reinforces my view that French cuisine is pretentious and over-priced; much like its wine and it is the perfect companion for food snobs. I have travelled all over the world but never had the slightest inclination to take the one hour journey across the Channel, from my home in England. Give me plain traditional English food anytime over (in my humble opinion) unappetizing French fare, after all what other nation in the world would consider eating snails and frogs legs! In fact it is only the over abundant use of garlic to hide the true taste of the food that makes it palatable in the first place (especially the two foods mentioned). Actually it surprised me that America is actually one of the worlds top importers of frogs legs alongside France and Belgium.

Yes I am prejudiced I admit it, firstly being English does not help and secondly the fact that I was force fed French language lessons for 8 years as a kid didn't help either. Thank God I have never had to use those language skills since I was a child (and sorry to all you French guys out there but I know you have never forgiven us English for Agincourt).

I guess we're on opposite sides of the French / English divide. I spent lots of time in England eating what I thought was the worst, most bland, and thoroughly tasteless crap I've ever encountered, whereas I find French cuisine the best in the world. As to French wines, there are simply none better on this planet in my opinion. Having lived in France for a long time, and being pretty fluent in the language, I would happily spend my remaining years on that side of the channel, whereas I'm not sure anyone could pay me enough to live on the other side. I guess the twain will never meet in our case.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1165098]GE your post just reinforces my view that French cuisine is pretentious and over-priced; much like its wine and it is the perfect companion for food snobs. I have travelled all over the world but never had the slightest inclination to take the one hour journey across the Channel, from my home in England. Give me plain traditional English food anytime over (in my humble opinion) unappetizing French fare, after all what other nation in the world would consider eating snails and frogs legs! In fact it is only the over abundant use of garlic to hide the true taste of the food that makes it palatable in the first place (especially the two foods mentioned). Actually it surprised me that America is actually one of the worlds top importers of frogs legs alongside France and Belgium.

Yes I am prejudiced I admit it, firstly being English does not help and secondly the fact that I was force fed French language lessons for 8 years as a kid didn't help either. Thank God I have never had to use those language skills since I was a child (and sorry to all you French guys out there but I know you have never forgiven us English for Agincourt). [/QUOTE]

I've been to Claude's only once. The food was great, the wine wonderful, the company interesting, and the women of high beauty and intellect. The bill was high for Philippines, but it was a night well spent. Oh, and the after dinner jazz at Chico's was nice enough.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1165106]I guess we're on opposite sides of the French / English divide. I spent lots of time in England eating what I thought was the worst, most bland, and thoroughly tasteless crap I've ever encountered, whereas I find French cuisine the best in the world. As to French wines, there are simply none better on this planet in my opinion. Having lived in France for a long time, and being pretty fluent in the language, I would happily spend my remaining years on that side of the channel, whereas I'm not sure anyone could pay me enough to live on the other side. I guess the twain will never meet in our case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man;1165350]I've been to Claude's only once. The food was great, the wine wonderful, the company interesting, and the women of high beauty and intellect. The bill was high for Philippines, but it was a night well spent. Oh, and the after dinner jazz at Chico's was nice enough.[/QUOTE]I think it's all a wiling suspension of disbelief thing. I miss France, and I miss Europe in general, and Claude's is the only place in Davao that makes me feel, for just a small fraction of time, that I'm back there. It's also the only place where I can speak French for the night and eat the food I love. If I have to pay somewhat more than I normally would for that privilege, then so be it. I do it willingly. I understand that it's not everyone's priority, in fact it's probably the priority of a very few, but that's fine. On Saturday night when we were there, the place was almost packed, largely with wealthy, well-dressed Filipinos, and I like that as well as I get tired to looking at shorts, flip flops and tee shirts.

Thanks X for the endorsement. I know that paying that much and eating that type of food is simply not important to lots of other people, perhaps most other people. That's fine with me. I don't try to impose my tastes on anyone else, though I'm thankful my asawa shares it. I wish there were more places here that offered similar ambience and a similar quality of food.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1165683]. . . . . . . Claude's is the only place in Davao that makes me feel, for just a small fraction of time, that I'm back there [in France]. . . . . . . . <SNIP . . . On Saturday night when we were there, the place was almost packed, largely with wealthy, well-dressed Filipinos, and I like that as well as I get tired to looking at shorts, flip flops and tee shirts.

GE[/QUOTE]On my last visit to Davao early in May for 2 nights only I planned in advance to catch up with GE and I specifically asked if we could have dinner at Claude's. I cannot imagine ever visiting Davao without dinner at Claude's no matter who is waiting for a text.

As always, we had a great meal in splendid ambient surroundings.

I am a staunch fan and have been for exactly 9 years.

Going off topic somewhat but more intersting than some of the nonsense I see here.

As an englishman living in Scotland for 16 yrs I feel I have one of the best larders there is on my doorstep. And the locals seem to have woken up to the fact too.

My family still live in the south of England and I am afraid I could never go back.

Some of the french pomposity and arrogance is annoying, but they have a culture and education system that teaches the value of good food cooked well. They also have an enormous and irrational focus on regional cuisine. For the sake of my heart I would choose southern France. Although I would pick southern Italy over all of them, if forced.

My second trip to Phil looms. 2 weeks sampling Cebu and Davao with a short stop in Manila.

Bon appetite

For me it is the snobbery and superior elitist attitudes that often seem to go hand in hand with French cuisine and French wines that is the aspect I find least palatable (forgive the pun) or at least that seems to be the case from what I have experienced in my own country. Whilst I understand French very well, I dislike the attitudes of some restaurants who insist on using only French for their menus and wine lists (in the UK) and then take a patronising stance when customers need help. I admit my perception has been marred by one or two unfortunate experiences in my own country and clearly there is a demand for such establishments otherwise they would not continue trading. Not wishing to generate another off topic discussion but in some ways the attitudes and behaviour remind me of Golf Clubs and Associations in the UK that seem to attract a snobbish and elitist element and is the one reason I have never become a member. I once had unknowingly broken one of the rules of a club I had attended to play a round of golf with my father many years ago. I was in the bar after coming in off the course and having changed into a jacket, smart shirt, tailored jeans and shoes and was told publicly by a member of the Committee not to come again if I ever wore jeans. Perhaps not a great comparator to the original topic, but the feeling I had at the time reminds me a lot of the way I feel about French dining in the UK.

I don't much care if it's off topic or not. It's an interesting discussion. I lived for several years in Paris, eating from time to time in some of the "grande" restaurants and most of the time in much more modest bistros and brasseries. Never, in any of these establishments, did I feel that the service or the food was presumptuous or elitist. However, what I experienced as in situ. Maybe it's quite different in the UK and elsewhere outside of France. I don't remember ever having felt that way in French restaurants in the US, but it's been quite sometime since I've lived in the States, and my perceptions are well out of date.

As to printing menus exclusively in French, even in non French-speaking countries, I don't think this is limited to French restaurants. I've noticed, for example, in Thailand, where few speak and / or read English, the menus in English pubs in Bangkok are always printed in English. Maybe insisting on English or French for the menus is a way of stressing the authenticity of the food or wine.

In France, I think the attitude is that the English (or Americans) don't bother translating their menus into French for us so why should we translate ours into English for them?

Finally, the really good French restaurants in which I've eaten in Makati and Fort Bonifacio-Je Suis Gourmand and ÇI Cou for example-print their menus in French and English.

GE

GE.

My bad experiences were with two very upmarket and well known restaraunts in London, one of which currently has two Mitchelin stars. Some guests in my party did not understand French and lacked knowledge about wines and I just thought they were treated patronisingly and with contempt. I do like to poke fun at the French (after all I am English) and can take as much as I give, hence the motivation underlying my original post. But I do find some attitudes to French wine by those that like to think they are very knowledgable, often snobbish and disdainful of those that do not have the same level of understanding. If I do venture to Davao next month then I will visit Claudes just to be able to say "I have been there" to all you fans of the place and to be able to have a more informed discussion about the merits of the place. I will try to leave my prejudices behind when visiting (together with my shorts, flip flops and T shirt).

Mortman, I hope I'm in town when you get here. It would be a pleasure to accompany you. Hopefully, by then Claude will have restocked his cellar.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1165106]I guess we're on opposite sides of the French / English divide. I spent lots of time in England eating what I thought was the worst, most bland, and thoroughly tasteless crap I've ever encountered, whereas I find French cuisine the best in the world. As to French wines, there are simply none better on this planet in my opinion. Having lived in France for a long time, and being pretty fluent in the language, I would happily spend my remaining years on that side of the channel, whereas I'm not sure anyone could pay me enough to live on the other side. I guess the twain will never meet in our case.[/QUOTE]Being a proud Englishman I'm not even going to get into a reply to this. Except to say having lived in both sides of the said Channel I would way rather stay in Asia, eating Thai food and enjoying either high end Californian or Australian wines. The twain will surely never meet. Vive la difference!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1166633]Being a proud Englishman I'm not even going to get into a reply to this. Except to say having lived in both sides of the said Channel I would way rather stay in Asia, eating Thai food and enjoying either high end Californian or Australian wines. The twain will surely never meet. Vive la difference![/QUOTE]I fully concur. Pompous types like to rant about French this / that. Thai food and Australian wines, now that is something. Saw in International paper today, Brit wines are coming of age nowadays too."May the road be long or short, rough or smooth, we mean to reach our journeys end"

Eating pussy, now thats a different one. Think Barba the Beast might have something to say on that subject. See he has seen the light and moved on over to Cebu City nowadays. I'll try and get some Cebu Filipinas pregnant so he can breast feed, LOL.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1166633]Being a proud Englishman I'm not even going to get into a reply to this. Except to say having lived in both sides of the said Channel I would way rather stay in Asia, eating Thai food and enjoying either high end Californian or Australian wines. The twain will surely never meet. Vive la difference![/QUOTE]It's hard to disagree with the staying in Asia and living in Thailand part. I thought we were limiting options to France and the UK. I've had excellent California and Australian wines in Bangkok, as well as some good French Bordeaux, and I'd put Thailand high up on the list of possible retirement destinations. By the way, I wasn't trying to denigrate the UK. My comment was restricted to the food, but then, I'm an American and not much of a fan of American food either.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1166749]It's hard to disagree with the staying in Asia and living in Thailand part. I thought we were limiting options to France and the UK. I've had excellent California and Australian wines in Bangkok, as well as some good French Bordeaux, and I'd put Thailand high up on the list of possible retirement destinations. By the way, I wasn't trying to denigrate the UK. My comment was restricted to the food, but then, I'm an American and not much of a fan of American food either.

GE[/QUOTE]Mr GE I love it when guys answer sensibly, maturely and not with the total intention of denigrating or refuting the words of the poster. Thanks for that! I have my days when a nice plate of ribs is well appreciated etc, but most American good leaves me quite uninterested. And the portions leave me shocked, at the sheer waste. I would certainly put BKK higher than JB.

Well, just read three pages of threads, and found almost zero information about the girl scene in Davao. Maybe a change of name is needed for this forum. Banalrandomchit-chat. Com?

There are no fun girls in Davao. They've all left and work in AC. Go there Yiddo.

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167838]Well, just read three pages of threads, and found almost zero information about the girl scene in Davao. Maybe a change of name is needed for this forum. Banalrandomchit-chat. Com?[/QUOTE]

Yiddo, have a look at the Reports Of Distinctions. This form of board is bound do have a lot of distortion since many of us are friends and maintain some form of relation on the boards, just filling them with nonsense. Normally you need to read some 15-20 pages back to get an idea of the updated status of for example Davao.

Sxxxx, would I have to call you uncle, then? :-D My last trip I had zero preggos. Sad but true. I actually have had more virgins than preggos in Cebu and Davao, yet no one offer these to me. I am always just extended a helping hand (dick) in the part where some girl is getting impregnated.

By the way, is there any fellow monger out there with some preggo contact for July and / and September?

H

Anyone with recommendations out there please

Colislaw

[QUOTE=Col Law; 1168582]Anyone with recommendations out there please

Colislaw[/QUOTE]Not sure what a pension house is (I am non English) but do you mean a cheaper place to stay, with breakfast and dinner included?

B

[QUOTE=Col Law; 1168582]Anyone with recommendations out there please

Colislaw[/QUOTE]There are several around town. The largest is probably the Sampagita Inn on Quirino St. Which is quote large and pretty inexpensive. There are lots of inexpensive hotels like the Orange Grove on Bajada and the Habana Hptel just off Rizal St. You won't have any problem finding a place.

GE

Hi I will be staying at mako polo hotel, is there is any action near by, what will be the present ongoing rates for LT

[QUOTE=Barba; 1167934]Yiddo, have a look at the Reports Of Distinctions. This form of board is bound do have a lot of distortion since many of us are friends and maintain some form of relation on the boards, just filling them with nonsense. Normally you need to read some 15-20 pages back to get an idea of the updated status of for example Davao.

Sxxxx, would I have to call you uncle, then? :-D My last trip I had zero preggos. Sad but true. I actually have had more virgins than preggos in Cebu and Davao, yet no one offer these to me. I am always just extended a helping hand (dick) in the part where some girl is getting impregnated.

By the way, is there any fellow monger out there with some preggo contact for July and / and September?

H[/QUOTE]Well Uncle as you call him, code language for the most knowledgeable guy on Cebu's sex scene or any other Cebu scene for that matter, he having lived as an expat in Cebu for about 30yrs now at a guess would know if anyone knew, LOL. Keep that inside info for yourself of course, as I know you will, that is, Uncle. There are just some things you just don't pass around and Uncle is one I know you will keep to yourself. For sure a book or movie could be written about him, that is for sure. The rest of us guys have done nothing and experienced nothing compared to him, although he has been in retirement mode for sometime now, and has gone to the dogs re weight etc etc. Must admit haven't seen him for about 5 years now, he scared me, last time I met him. Getting scarey that guy, tread warily, be well mannered, LOL. Respects me cause of the old days, but he is still scarey, LOL, especially maybe for someone who has not met him before, LOL.

We veterans follow you younguns on this website. Nice to know new deviates are coming through from time to time. My time is nearly up, but still good for a few more stands, hopefully. Keep up the good work.

[quote=topmanten;1170844]hi i will be staying at mako polo hotel, is there is any action near by, what will be the present ongoing rates for lt[/quote]davao is not really geared towards st and lt or p4p at all in that respect. if you go to central bank / tlonko street, san pedro or the area around apo view you will find streetwalkers that ask you 2000 and settle for less than half if you push them. you can have them for hours and more. one stayed with me for three days a long time ago (when i had three days for the same girl) , and i just fed her and bought some clothes for a few hundred pesos. these places are called "the std central" but i am not sure they are worse than hot legs and the other strip dumps. if you are not prepared to share your love, you should expect 1000-1500 php for an encounter of some hours up to a night. sometimes i have paid 500, but i don't care much about bargaining for a few hundred pesos. only the real hard core hoes will count pops and minutes in davao.

if you are nice to them, they do not ask for money, but there is of course nothing that stops you from still sharing. if you are up for adventures you ask the cab driver to take you to a casa (someone living room where they have 2-3 girl. be aware of **** girls and setups. or you go to bungoyan beach for some hard core mongering. the bungoyan chicks are sometimes addicts and this is one of the hang out for rougher boys as well, so do not go there with the general visitors "i am the king of the world"-attitude, unless you wish to practice your kick boxing.

happy hunting!

b

[QUOTE=Yiddo;1167838]Well, just read three pages of threads, and found almost zero information about the girl scene in Davao. Maybe a change of name is needed for this forum. Banalrandomchit-chat. Com?[/QUOTE]But its people like you who make it all worthwhile, LOL.

[QUOTE=Topmanten;1170844]Hi I will be staying at mako polo hotel, is there is any action near by, what will be the present ongoing rates for LT[/QUOTE]Depends on the size of their boobs, LOL.

Sxxxx, you said that for years. You will live to be 120.

Hello. I posted this in DragonSlayers forum, and figured I would share it here as well for the ones that do not visit his board.

My itinerary:

July 13-15: Batam.

July 15: Cebu from noon and for the afternoon and night.

July 16: Davao (with islands) from noon and for 1 week.

Ping me and we can share a coke / SML or a trip to Samal on the bikes.

B

A must see about the Mindanao wild west.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7GG1pfdDNo[/url]

B

Hello, ,

Doas anyone have some experiences with Crown Regency hotel in Davao?

Is it friendly hotel to bring in girls?

[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1184245]Hello, ,

Doas anyone have some experiences with Crown Regency hotel in Davao?

Is it friendly hotel to bring in girls?[/QUOTE]Yes on both questions.

Barba

I doubt that there's a single hotel here that isn't "friendly." I live here, so I don't know the intimate details of most hotels. But the Crown Regency doesn't look like it would be at the top of my list of places to stay, as it appears fairly seedy and down market. On the other hand, I've known people who have stayed there and considered it an okay type of place, as long as you don't have high expectations for the quality of the room. I wouldn't however, worry about the friendliness of any hotel in Davao.

GE.

[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1184245]Hello, ,

Doas anyone have some experiences with Crown Regency hotel in Davao?

Is it friendly hotel to bring in girls?[/QUOTE]

Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster.

Is CNBC or Bloomberg readily available in Davao City via Cable? Can you verify they cover the US Markets during the US Trading day?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=WhatsUrName; 1184981]Hi! Long time lurker, first time poster.

Is CNBC or Bloomberg readily available in Davao City via Cable? Can you verify they cover the US Markets during the US Trading day?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Bloomberg is available on Sky Cable, which is, I think, what most hotels have. I'm not sure about CNBC. The US trading day is night time here, so I've never watched it then as I prefer to sleep, but I'm sure the market's well covered.

GE

Why not just log into bloomberg. Com or cnbc. Com? BTW Geithner is whining a tantrum right now about the downgrade.

[QUOTE=Pilot Alex; 1184245]Hello, ,

Doas anyone have some experiences with Crown Regency hotel in Davao?

Is it friendly hotel to bring in girls?[/QUOTE]Alex,

I stayed a few months ago and I can give you the low-down on the Crowne Regency Davao.

First the rooms are run-down and old by Western standards. It needs a major renovation to say the least, but if you are looking for a basic place to crash and bring a girl then it might be ok.

When you check in you are required to count the towels and glasses and extra blanket and sign for them. The bellman will ask you to do this when you are taken to the room and it made me laugh and I asked if he was serious but clearly you are not staying at a five star hotel. The CR Davao was built in a motel style which means when you open your hotel room door you are outside and this can lead to major air conditioning and noise issues. The beds need new mattresses, and the sheets had holes in them but the TV remote kind of worked.

This hotel does not have a refrigerator in the rooms so if you want to bring back a few drinks to enjoy you can't keep them cold. You can go get some ice at the restaurant but I forget if they charged me or not.

The free wifi worked well in the room when I arrived but by Friday night it was cut off and it only worked in the lobby. Both Saturday and Sunday there was no wifi available and they turned it off to save money. I checked out early because of the conditions which is very unusual for me.

Also alot of the rooms are located in the back wing of the hotel and you have to enter the "50's cafe" hotel restaurant to get to your room and this can lead to big walk of shame issues when families are there to eat as all eyes will be on you.

Also the Crowne Regency Davao is sandwiched between a drive-in short time hotel, and people come and go all hours of the day and night to get a little jerjer and it was not unusual for taxi's or whoever to use the horn at 4am. On the weekend you can forget about getting any sleep because the short time hotel was very popular. I walked around one day and every room of the short time hotel has a theme. From firehouses, moon landscapes, farmhouses, egyptian themes, dungeon themes but I did not check it out.

It was also a long taxi ride to SM mall, but close to a few other smaller malls.

I liked the Crowne Regency hotels in Cebu and Makati and I booked expecting the same level and this place came up way short. I would not stay there again.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1185069]Alex,

I When you check in you are required to count the towels and glasses and extra blanket and sign for them. The bellman will ask you to do this when you are taken to the room and it made me laugh and I asked if he was serious[/QUOTE]I have some friends who are GM's of "proper" 5 star hotels. Will have to send them this very funny story. Could be a whole new revenue stream for them!

When will the Philippines hit the 21st century instead of having these backward antiquated customer turn off activities.

Counting the towels and glasses is a new one for me as well. I bow to Stroker Ace's opinion of the place, which is about what I expected-very basic, somewhat shoddy but reasonably safe. As an alternative, someone may want to try Galleria on Gov. Theétente St. Just above Quirino. It's close to all, or most of the "action spots," though getting to these will still require a taxi ride, but I've had good reports from people to whom I've suggested the hotel. There's another place called Las Casitas or maybe La Casita just at the end of Rizal St. Where some people have had good experiences as well. There are also a few newish apartelles around but as I live here, and never stay in hotels, I forget their names. Another excellent value, as I've said many times before is Red Knight Garden Apartments where you can rent a studio for less than $20 a night or so. The downside is that it's about 25 minutes by taxi from the center of town, but the good news is there are plenty of taxis and they're cheap.

GE

When will you understand that the reason you love the Philippines is that it is not a 1st world country that does things exactly the way you want? Be careful what you wish for.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1185072]I have some friends who are GM's of "proper" 5 star hotels. Will have to send them this very funny story. Could be a whole new revenue stream for them!

When will the Philippines hit the 21st century instead of having these backward antiquated customer turn off activities.[/QUOTE]

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[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1185069]Alex,

I stayed a few months ago and I can give you the low-down on the Crowne Regency Davao.

First the rooms are run-down and old by Western standards. It needs a major renovation to say the least, but if you are looking for a basic place to crash and bring a girl then it might be ok.

When you check in you are required to count the towels and glasses and extra blanket and sign for them. The bellman will ask you to do this when you are taken to the room and it made me laugh and I asked if he was serious but clearly you are not staying at a five star hotel. The CR Davao was built in a motel style which means when you open your hotel room door you are outside and this can lead to major air conditioning and noise issues. The beds need new mattresses, and the sheets had holes in them but the TV remote kind of worked.

This hotel does not have a refrigerator in the rooms so if you want to bring back a few drinks to enjoy you can't keep them cold. You can go get some ice at the restaurant but I forget if they charged me or not.

The free wifi worked well in the room when I arrived but by Friday night it was cut off and it only worked in the lobby. Both Saturday and Sunday there was no wifi available and they turned it off to save money. I checked out early because of the conditions which is very unusual for me.

Also alot of the rooms are located in the back wing of the hotel and you have to enter the "50's cafe" hotel restaurant to get to your room and this can lead to big walk of shame issues when families are there to eat as all eyes will be on you.

Also the Crowne Regency Davao is sandwiched between a drive-in short time hotel, and people come and go all hours of the day and night to get a little jerjer and it was not unusual for taxi's or whoever to use the horn at 4am. On the weekend you can forget about getting any sleep because the short time hotel was very popular. I walked around one day and every room of the short time hotel has a theme. From firehouses, moon landscapes, farmhouses, egyptian themes, dungeon themes but I did not check it out.

It was also a long taxi ride to SM mall, but close to a few other smaller malls.

I liked the Crowne Regency hotels in Cebu and Makati and I booked expecting the same level and this place came up way short. I would not stay there again.[/QUOTE]

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Does the Blue Room bar still exist in the Apo View?

I liked that place and there was a gorgeous Vietnamese looking girl working there when I was there.

[QUOTE=Orangevale Rob; 1186500]Does the Blue Room bar still exist in the Apo View?

I liked that place and there was a gorgeous Vietnamese looking girl working there when I was there.[/QUOTE]It's still there. I haven't been in for more than a ear ao I can't comment on the staff.

[QUOTE=X Man;1185219]When will you understand that the reason you love the Philippines is that it is not a 1st world country that does things exactly the way you want? Be careful what you wish for.[/QUOTE]You meanlike putting ice in warm beer to make it appear as cold beer. Nah I'm ok ig the 21st century intrudes on some of these practices. LOL

This is My 2nd visit to Davao. I will be there 31st Aug for three days. My first visit was just to explore the city and to eat durian.

I have seen plenty of girls hanging out SM and even at McDonalds late at night,

Hope any experienced mongers in Davao could advice on any pick joints even advice on nice clubs. Not KTV bars. But dj music and a alot of potential.

Last times, I drove around with a taxi guy around people's parke area around 3 am, there were street girls standing with pimps. I had a very bad experienced though. It was too rush and filthy.

It has been one year since I was there. Appreciate all the help I can. I am really in to small bulit girls. Prefer school / college girls.

Happy and Safe Mongering Guys.

Two Sexy bigirls need a man to complete the fun. And all done just for fun, no money to change hands. Send me your cell number qnd I wil pass along. Move FAST, THIS HAPPENS TODAY.

[QUOTE=Wjmpsr;1190769]Two Sexy bigirls need a man to complete the fun. And all done just for fun, no money to change hands. Send me your cell number qnd I wil pass along. Move FAST, THIS HAPPENS TODAY.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I land in Davao at 10. 30pm today.

What is happening there?

[QUOTE=Micky Mouse; 1192315]Hi,

I land in Davao at 10. 30pm today.

What is happening there?[/QUOTE]Not a lot 10. 30pm or any other time. Although "Mickey Mouse Town" would be a good name for the place. Go back to airport and catch a flight to Cebu City. After that Angeles. You seem to have a preference for mickey mouse sex scenes, LOL.

[QUOTE=WhatsUrName;1184981]Is CNBC or Bloomberg readily available in Davao City via Cable? Can you verify they cover the US Markets during the US Trading day?[/QUOTE]If you're that concerned about the US Markets, you have got to get your news online.

Last night we went for dinner to the newly relocated Café de Ville, often referred to as Claude's. It's diagonally across the street from his old location on Rizal St, and is now situated in an historic old Spanish home. The restaurant occupies the second floor. It's a truly gorgeous place, with the renovations done in perfect taste that blend French colonial styles with distinctly oriental influences, and the dining room looks like it might have been lifted intact from a late 19th to early 20th century French colonial outpost in Cambodia or perhaps Laos. It's about three times larger than his prior location, and can accommodate more than 70 customers. Last night it was full, and Claude's daughter Charisse told me it's been that way since they opened in the new location a week ago.

As I said in a post I tried to submit to the Slayer's forum last night, Claude's has long been the priciest restaurant in town, and that hasn't changed. It's certainly the prettiest. The new location features quite a substantial garden with small tables and chairs for those who want to drink or smoke al fresco. The theécor is lovely and though the place is much larger, it's still fairly intimate, with dim lights, white linen, and excellent service. Last night's dinner cost Php3, 000 a person, and that did not include desert, but did include two bottles of Red Sancerre and some Calvados. I had the duck breast (magret de canard) in orange sauce which was, as always, excellent, as were the escargots provençal with which I began the meal, and the pâté that all of us shared, which was served with carmelized red onions. For those who want to dine, and not merely eat, and who don't mind spending some money, it's the place to go in Davao. I think we spent about two and a half hours eating, drinking, socializing and having fun. We were the last customers to leave.

There's another restaurant called The Cellar on the ground floor of the house, and Claude told me that he was impressed by the quality of the food. It too is extremely attractive, though the menu of Filipino / Spanish cuisine didn't appeal much to me. It too however, has small tables and chairs set up in its portion of the garden.

At about 10:30, four of us strolled across the street to Chicos for nightcaps. The live band was playing 60s rock and roll, and there were several couples who had clearly come there to dance the night away. The crowd, as usual, was older with lots of single people and couples in their late 40s and early 50s. There were a few women-not young-who may have been on the look out for willing partners, and were surely eager to find guys with whom to dance. Had I been looking, they would not have interested me. In addition to my friends and me there were three or four other foreigners there, some with partners, others who were alone. Again, this is not a pick-up spot, but if you're with someone with whom you enjoy spending time, it's a fun place to go and listen to music, drink and dance.

On the way home, traveling up Bajada, we passed the turn-off for the Auto Shop, which looked like it must have been packed judging by the profusion of cars and taxis lined up around the area. We didn't go in, so this is strictly an inference on my part but it did appear to be jammed. I imagine the crowd was younger.

For the more sedate among us, who are content to enjoy good food, wine and music, and who don't mind paying for the privilege, Claude's and Chicos offer an excellent means of passing an enjoyable evening.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1200292]For the more sedate among us, who are content to enjoy good food, wine and music, and who don't mind paying for the privilege, Claude's and Chicos offer an excellent means of passing an enjoyable evening.[/QUOTE]I do enjoy reading yours and Slayer's posts on fine dining in the provinces. I will certainly try some of those places next time I get to Davao. The thing that gives me pause is, do I want to spend the $ on a girl who won't appreciate it. Perhaps they have, like in the states they have a "children's menu". Perhaps they might have a "My Pinay GF's Menu" with rice and a bit of lechon or chicken? (sorry in advance!)

I have admired that home several times and now it's possible to go inside. Wonderful. Yet another reason to make it back to Davao.

SNIP.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1200292]Last night we went for dinner to the newly relocated Café de Ville, often referred to as Claude's. It's diagonally across the street from his old location on Rizal St, and is now situated in an historic old Spanish home. GE[/QUOTE]

Thank you for that encouraging report, GE. I know it is politically incorrect but do you know if Claude serves foi grass?

Why are all good things in life bad?

GE, those cars are always there. To make you think exactly what you did. 30 guys parking, backing, going forward and turning a total traffic disaster into a PR event. In reality the place is empty, the DJ useless and the toilets filled with ladyboys pissing on the floor.

Barba.

3 more days to go

Yes, Barba, Fois Gras is still on the menu. What would a truly French restaurant be without it? Thanks for clarifying the Auto Shop situation. I've been there exactly once and that was years ago, and I don't ever plan to return, so it's good that the guys who read this forum can get a more accurate picture of the place than I could ever provide.

Jambo, I feel your pain, but there's no kiddie menu. I do agree though, that paying those prices for a lady who would much rather have pandit or chicken adobo is something of a waste. I've seen guys doing this, I guess in an effort to impress their ladies for the night, and it never seems to work out very well. First, the girls are intimidated because they don't recognize anything on the menu, and they probably leave as hungry as when they arrived since they don't appear to like the food.

X it's a beautiful building and the renovations that Claude and his family did are consistent with the original style of the place, so it all blends together quite nicely. One of the friends with whom I had dinner there said the place closely resembles some of the old French colonial buildings that are still found in Phnom Penh and I agree. This house would not be out of place on the banks of the Mekong River. I forgot to mention in my original post that there's a lovely veranda which would be an ideal spot on which to sip coffee and after dinner drinks while looking at the river. If there was a river.

GE

Thanks GE for the update. What is the 1st floor used for? Hopefully it hasn't been sacrificed to become the kitchen.

Autoshop. I've been there two or three times. Loud and crowded on the weekends. I think it's mostly a stand bar, and people just dance next to their tables. There may be a tiny dance floor. But where else can you dance the night away in Davao?

X

Yummi. I am going and I WILL contribute to the world evil and eat some fat liver. I heard that there is an Italian producer that won prizes for his well tasting foie gras. Instead of stuffing them gavage style he waits until the little birdies are well due for the yearly migration and then just kill them before they fly off. The effect of the birds eating to prepare for the long journey is supposedly equal to force feeding these poor birds. What is the correct spelling anyway? Foi grass, foie gras, fois gras?

Having made my point about Autoshop (Hybrid nowadays) I must admit it CAN be steaming sometimes. Starr next door also. And one more place next to Star if I remember correct. Fat Bobby's I think there is one called as well, and the area itself is well worth a visit if you are in a party mood. Just go early since they close at 2 AM (more like 3 AM). After this you will have to go home, go to a karaoke place or some of the more seedy places that serves beer and Tanduai illegally.

I used to have fun at Station 91, but a younger and poorer crowd. No idea if it even still exists. Rizal 183 seems quite dead but there will be a reopening under new management in "some time". Evibe in Torres was fun sometimes with quite a few available young girls, but last visits it was dull, just like the rest of Torres. The adventurous head to bunguyan beach and hope for some improvised red horse and shabu rave party.

Pops bar next to the poker place and former Cogot (now called something else but still serve morning beer on the roof I have heard) aspires to be some sort of club with cool music and adult classy people. Here Duterte Junior fed me screwdrivers once, but I was to drunk to finish it. I was even to pissed to fuck the photo model that was hanging over me, so it was not a good evening.

I am not 100% updated on what is happening in Davao, but it was never a huge party city, and unfortunately changed for the worse the last 2-3 years. Please post a review if you find some other cool places.

Barba

[QUOTE=Jambo;1200399]I do enjoy reading yours and Slayer's posts on fine dining in the provinces. I will certainly try some of those places next time I get to Davao. The thing that gives me pause is, do I want to spend the $ on a girl who won't appreciate it. Perhaps they have, like in the states they have a "children's menu". Perhaps they might have a "My Pinay GF's Menu" with rice and a bit of lechon or chicken? (sorry in advance!)[/QUOTE]You're very highly unlikely to meet a girl who will appreciate it so you would be better off taking her to a local BBQ place where the menu will be familiar to her. Or go for the Filipino food courts in the local malls. Or if you can stomach it, there's always Jollibee's, KFC and Chow King. This is a mistake I've made several times. Shame on me. Heck, even did it again in Cebu on my last trip.

If you still want the fine dining experience and don't want to dine alone, try finding other expats of similar tastes and bankrolls.

At about 5 o'clock this afternoon the sky over Davao turned black, warning everyone who lives here of the imminence of a severe storm. Undaunted, I got into my car and girded myself for the short ride to my house, a mere 4 or 5 kilometers distant. During that short ride, which took about 25 minutes, I witnessed more insane driving behavior than I could possibly see over a five or six year period in the West. The topper was a truck coming out of a small side street, managing to cut off two lanes of traffic while trying to turn, but blocked from doing so by the smaller cars, that clustered around the behemoth like gnats around an elephant. Not intimidated at all, a guy in a small Toyota decided he simply had to turn onto the small side street at the same time that the truck was trying to exit, with the result that nothing moved at all, until finally a few cars in the opposing lanes gave way to allow the truck some room. I've noticed that Filipino drivers are quite capable of creating a traffic jam with fewer than five cars.

Naturally, as soon as it started to rain heavily, both the electricity and the cell phone service went out, leaving me sweltering in the 100% humidity, and unable to make a call to the electric company to determine if there's enough masking tape and glue left in inventory to make repairs that will last until the next wind blows or the next heavy rain begins.

The ready availability of young, responsive ladies-the favorite subject of most who write herein-is about the only upside of living here.

GE

I was in Samal at the time and the power was knocked out by a fallen tree. What did surprise me was how good the Smart Internet was working on my phone. It is my old iPhone 3G that I had jail broken in Manila for 500 peso.

Oh, stop complaining. At least you didn't have a few nuclear reactors fart out radiation just 200km from your home. Living in the first world also has it's complications. GE, shouldn't you be riding a Harley? They need less space, and you are certainly cool enough.

X

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1201668]At about 5 o'clock this afternoon the sky over Davao turned black, warning everyone who lives here of the imminence of a severe storm. Undaunted, I got into my car and girded myself for the short ride to my house, a mere 4 or 5 kilometers distant. During that short ride, which took about 25 minutes, I witnessed more insane driving behavior than I could possibly see over a five or six year period in the West. The topper was a truck coming out of a small side street, managing to cut off two lanes of traffic while trying to turn, but blocked from doing so by the smaller cars, that clustered around the behemoth like gnats around an elephant. Not intimidated at all, a guy in a small Toyota decided he simply had to turn onto the small side street at the same time that the truck was trying to exit, with the result that nothing moved at all, until finally a few cars in the opposing lanes gave way to allow the truck some room. I've noticed that Filipino drivers are quite capable of creating a traffic jam with fewer than five cars.

Naturally, as soon as it started to rain heavily, both the electricity and the cell phone service went out, leaving me sweltering in the 100% humidity, and unable to make a call to the electric company to determine if there's enough masking tape and glue left in inventory to make repairs that will last until the next wind blows or the next heavy rain begins.

The ready availability of young, responsive ladies-the favorite subject of most who write herein-is about the only upside of living here.

GE[/QUOTE]

LIttle danger of nuclear fallout here X. The only reactor in the country was built more than 20 years ago at a cost of tens of millions of dollars, and has never generated a single kilowatt of electricity, though the government spent years paying off the loans used to finance the project. Just as well, since relying on the government here to maintain nuclear generating facilities would be a sure recipe for disaster. Remember, that this is the country that can't figure out how to build and operate a new airport terminal, so something like a reactor would be well beyond its capabilities.

I used to have a Chinese copy Harley, which meant if you looked at it from 50 meters and squinted a little it slightly resembled a Harley. I gave it up a couple of years ago, figuring I was just too old to risk the insanity of the other drivers here and opted instead for the protection of a larger vehicle. I'm not sorry I made the decision.

GE

I have heard two statements this week, on two separate occasions, that I think-if not perfect metaphors for the country-are at the very least insightful, and lend some understanding to this place.

The first occurred while I was eating lunch with some colleagues: the same colleagues with whom I eat lunch almost every day, at Spirale, in Damosa Gate. The four of us were trying to engage in some conversation with each other, but were largely prevented from doing so by three women, none of them particularly young, sitting at an adjacent table, and literally shreiking with laughter throughout their-and our-meal. They were so loud, and so oblivious to the discomfort they were causing to all other diners, that it was a wonder to behold. At some point during our abortive attempts to be heard, my friend who was sitting next to me remarked: "I'm so tired of living in a country of fifteen year olds," and I thought that the characterization of large portions of the population as eternally adolescent was accurate and perfect for its assumption of lack of impulse control, emotional immaturity and under-developed ability to think reflectively or, some may argue, to think much at all.

The second event occurred today. I was at Chardin tailors, to pick up a sports jacket and some slacks. It's the third time I've been back for these items. The last time I finally made them realize that the jacket was so small, there was no way to alter it and it would have to be remade. When I got there, the jacket needed some minor adjustments, but overall it was fine (having been re-made once.) The pants, made of a lovely cashmere blend, were so badly tailored, with the pleats misplaced, that I told the owner I wouldn't take them, and wouldn't return. Then I asked her why, since her cutters and sewers made so many mistakes that, in my case at least, cost her a lot of money, she didn't just fire them after the 6th or 7th costly error. Her response?"Sir, what do you expect? This is a third world country." In other words one shouldn't have high expectations, and should accept inferior work products. It occurred to me that most Filipinos probably accept the lowered expectations that are concomitant with third world country status, thus dooming the place forever to third world country status in a self-perpetuating, self-justifying cycle.

So, there you go, a third world country inhabited by perpetual adolescents: two rather good metaphors for the state of the Philippines that might help explain to all of us why it is how it is.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1211530].and under-developed ability to think reflectively or, some may argue, to think much at all.[/QUOTE]Mind is a terrible thing[B]. [/B]

I didn't know this, truly frightening. WHere is this incompleted reactor?

I understand there are / were safer ways of generating nuclear power. Molten salt something or other. Apparently rejected because they didn't provide fuel for those little nuke bombs that used to be so important. But this is the world we live in. X.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1211378]LIttle danger of nuclear fallout here X. The only reactor in the country was built more than 20 years ago at a cost of tens of millions of dollars, and has never generated a single kilowatt of electricity, though the government spent years paying off the loans used to finance the project. Just as well, since relying on the government here to maintain nuclear generating facilities would be a sure recipe for disaster. Remember, that this is the country that can't figure out how to build and operate a new airport terminal, so something like a reactor would be well beyond its capabilities.

I used to have a Chinese copy Harley, which meant if you looked at it from 50 meters and squinted a little it slightly resembled a Harley. I gave it up a couple of years ago, figuring I was just too old to risk the insanity of the other drivers here and opted instead for the protection of a larger vehicle. I'm not sorry I made the decision.

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1211530]Then I asked her why, since her cutters and sewers made so many mistakes that, in my case at least, cost her a lot of money, she didn't just fire them after the 6th or 7th costly error. Her response?"Sir, what do you expect? This is a third world country." In other words one shouldn't have high expectations, and should accept inferior work products. It occurred to me that most Filipinos probably accept the lowered expectations that are concomitant with third world country status, thus dooming the place forever to third world country status in a self-perpetuating, self-justifying cycle.

GE[/QUOTE]Lowered expectations. Right on the money. The first time I took a PAL flight from the US west coast to Manila, I was the only kano on a full 747. From the long line of pilipinos checking in with boxes (I was the only human being in line at the time with real luggage) , witnessing the slow / underperforming check-in counter clerks, the slow / underperforming flight attendants ("What's that sir? This is the fourth time you asked for some water? Oh yes, I remember now.") , I remember thinking: Am I the only one who notices how slow / inept the employees are? Little did I know that the following two items are part of many people's lives:

1. Slow / poor service (if at all) , and.

2. An acceptance of this slow / poor service by everyone else.

Another airline example: If you have ever been in the old Cebu-Pacific office at the Manila domestic side, where they have the chairs in the waiting area with the call-slip numbers. Watching the 6-8 counter clerks walking around, doing what appears to be nothing, while 50 customers sit idly by for an hour or two, with narry a handful of numbers being called, can be a nightmare, especially if you had to catch a flight and were making a change in itinerary or paying for the change. Yet, nobody complains, and the employees walk about like everything is hunky-dory great day. I'm not quite sure what the employees are doing (maybe 15 of them) , but they are not serving the customers.

GE's tailor's quote of "What do you expect? This is a third world country," was echoed back to me by a hotel manager. She said it this way: "You foreigner expect all things now. Its just not our way." There are many hard-working pilipino: cabbies, factory workers, farmers, etc. But I find that many people in the service industry, which caters to both pilipino and foreigners, are woefully lacking in the "customer-comes-first" ethic.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1211570]Lowered expectations. Right on the money. The first time I took a PAL flight from the US west coast to Manila, I was the only kano on a full 747. From the long line of pilipinos checking in with boxes (I was the only human being in line at the time with real luggage) , witnessing the slow / underperforming check-in counter clerks, the slow / underperforming flight attendants ("What's that sir? This is the fourth time you asked for some water? Oh yes, I remember now.") , I remember thinking: Am I the only one who notices how slow / inept the employees are? Little did I know that the following two items are part of many people's lives:

1. Slow / poor service (if at all) , and.

2. An acceptance of this slow / poor service by everyone else.

Another airline example: If you have ever been in the old Cebu-Pacific office at the Manila domestic side, where they have the chairs in the waiting area with the call-slip numbers. Watching the 6-8 counter clerks walking around, doing what appears to be nothing, while 50 customers sit idly by for an hour or two, with narry a handful of numbers being called, can be a nightmare, especially if you had to catch a flight and were making a change in itinerary or paying for the change. Yet, nobody complains, and the employees walk about like everything is hunky-dory great day. I'm not quite sure what the employees are doing (maybe 15 of them) , but they are not serving the customers.

GE's tailor's quote of "What do you expect? This is a third world country," was echoed back to me by a hotel manager. She said it this way: "You foreigner expect all things now. Its just not our way." There are many hard-working pilipino: cabbies, factory workers, farmers, etc. But I find that many people in the service industry, which caters to both pilipino and foreigners, are woefully lacking in the "customer-comes-first" ethic.[/QUOTE]Lack of service is something you have to get used to if you want to enjoy your time in the Philippines. Airports, immigration offices, and also quite a few of the hotels I used so far are definitely worse when it comes to service compared to for instance Thailand. The abundance of young hot willing girls who also speak English compensates for this which makes Philippines the best country I visited yet. After being here for 6 weeks now I am getting used to the pace and start to actually enjoy it when I see some other foreigner getting pissed when it doesn't go his way. Just relax and enjoy this country, and make sure you don't get yourself in real trouble. After that you can go back to the "first-world" and enjoy the benefits there.

If native people keep their expectations low here, we can enjoy some nice time here for a very reasonable price.

[quote=goodenough; 1211530]so, there you go, a third world country inhabited by perpetual adolescents: two rather good metaphors for the state of the philippines that might help explain to all of us why it is how it is.

ge[/quote]funny you write about this now ge. i have had this theory for some time about different mental stages of (the philippino) people i have had the fortune to interact with. me and my friend (you know who) spent a great deal of time discussing this during our last visit to davao. it is not so politically correct to do research on, or even talk about, differences in physical development between various groups of humans and i have no clue or guess about nature versus nurture in this particular question, but would be highly interested in reference studies if anyone knows where to find it.

take it for what it is, partly joke and partly an initial observations of a pattern i seem to have noticed, but the three mental stages i believe to have observed i choose to call those of a child, an adolescent and an adult. what a surprise, isn't it? these definitions are separated from the physical development, and even if i hope that it is totally obvious i still want to state that we are talking about individuals of age 18 year or more. one can apply this to anyone in society, but it can be fruitful to think about chasing punani to understand the idea.

the adult.

adults are not that many, at least in davao. these individuals are responsive, responsible and realistic. you will feel like you could have been talking to this person anywhere in the world. most often these individuals will be a pleasant surprise for mongers that learned to expect little and be happy for the simplest of conversations while indulging in yet another carbohydrate bomb. being a realist with a certain amount of life experience, the adult will actively choose to oversee certain flaws in you, and let you please her in ways she needs to be pleased. sex will most often be slightly inhibited, but pleasurable and free from transactions, guilt and shallow qualifiers.

the adolescent.

the adolescent individual can make you feel young and alive, but she is unpredictable. most people i meet in the philippines, both in private and in the line of my work, belong to this group. qualifications, symbolism and a somewhat prideful ego are normally a part of the adolescent individuals world, but the effects of these are random. one could for example see a continuous flow of a rather predictable behavior or performance, only to be struck by what seems to be an unpredictable change or error. the same pattern goes for mood and changes in this. the adolescent individual will never question the group, no matter how irrational or stupid it behaves. this is likely the largest group of individuals in the adult part of the philippines, so you will meet them frequently in clubs, parks, eateries, etc. it can be a challenge to qualify if the girl is pretty and / or financially stable, but she is normally both material and vain, and will spread her legs for consumption. a standard answer, cunningly used to probe your intentions in any situation will be "it is up to you".

a key for me to understand these adolescent individuals is to think about the "as if-world". when used correctly this way of thinking will in fact be a very powerful tool. a simple practical example of an "as if" would be to meet the the adolescent individual for a ice cream on your way back from work. after a brief meeting you go home alone and pick up your andros, and then you meet her again. you have now erased the imaginative threshold that stipulates that there can be no sex on the first date. it is important for her image to follow rules like this, so we pretend as if we are observing protocol. another example is to answer a question by simply just asking another question in the returning text message. we pretend as if we answer, but we are in fact voiding all responsibility to answer the first question by asking a second.

the adolescent individual will normally always be looking for a (better) job and will normally never manage to answer to more than one question in any context. she will always have a somewhat plausible excuse for being late, but you will both know that she is just using a standard template excuse, pretending as if it was impossible for her to affect the parameters that caused her delay.

the child.

the child individual is lively, random and can be quite funny to hang out with, at least the first minutes. she makes errors that seems unsystematic at best. her ability to extrapolate and avoid similar errors are close to zero. she will reply to 90% of your questions with a "huh". her excuses for coming late are most often to absurd to even have an opinion about. her status is normally "in school" or "i don't know, oi". she will find it hilarious if you say "pagsureoi" and her immediate comment to seeing your wad of 1000 php bills will be "you are handsome". setting out for any form of intelligent conversation with this group of individuals is bound for disaster. sex is as dramatic as eating an egg and she will most often enjoy it in a natural and unpretentious way. after the act she will immediately start to brush her hair and she will say "look i am peeing" when she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133][CodeWord133][/url] in the shower over barba's feet.

b.

[quote=barba; 1212022]funny you write about this now ge. i have had this theory for some time about different mental stages of (the philippino) people i have had the fortune to interact with. me and my friend (you know who) spent a great deal of time discussing this during our last visit to davao. it is not so politically correct to do research on, or even talk about, differences in physical development between various groups of humans and i have no clue or guess about nature versus nurture in this particular question, but would be highly interested in reference studies if anyone knows where to find it.

take it for what it is, partly joke and partly an initial observations of a pattern i seem to have noticed, but the three mental stages i believe to have observed i choose to call those of a child, an adolescent and an adult. what a surprise, isn't it? these definitions are separated from the physical development, and even if i hope that it is totally obvious i still want to state that we are talking about individuals of age 18 year or more. one can apply this to anyone in society, but it can be fruitful to think about chasing punani to understand the idea.

the adult.

adults are not that many, at least in davao. these individuals are responsive, responsible and realistic. you will feel like you could have been talking to this person anywhere in the world. most often these individuals will be a pleasant surprise for mongers that learned to expect little and be happy for the simplest of conversations while indulging in yet another carbohydrate bomb. being a realist with a certain amount of life experience, the adult will actively choose to oversee certain flaws in you, and let you please her in ways she needs to be pleased. sex will most often be slightly inhibited, but pleasurable and free from transactions, guilt and shallow qualifiers.

the adolescent.

the adolescent individual can make you feel young and alive, but she is unpredictable. most people i meet in the philippines, both in private and in the line of my work, belong to this group. qualifications, symbolism and a somewhat prideful ego are normally a part of the adolescent individuals world, but the effects of these are random. one could for example see a continuous flow of a rather predictable behavior or performance, only to be struck by what seems to be an unpredictable change or error. the same pattern goes for mood and changes in this. the adolescent individual will never question the group, no matter how irrational or stupid it behaves. this is likely the largest group of individuals in the adult part of the philippines, so you will meet them frequently in clubs, parks, eateries, etc. it can be a challenge to qualify if the girl is pretty and / or financially stable, but she is normally both material and vain, and will spread her legs for consumption. a standard answer, cunningly used to probe your intentions in any situation will be "it is up to you".

a key for me to understand these adolescent individuals is to think about the "as if-world". when used correctly this way of thinking will in fact be a very powerful tool. a simple practical example of an "as if" would be to meet the the adolescent individual for a ice cream on your way back from work. after a brief meeting you go home alone and pick up your andros, and then you meet her again. you have now erased the imaginative threshold that stipulates that there can be no sex on the first date. it is important for her image to follow rules like this, so we pretend as if we are observing protocol. another example is to answer a question by simply just asking another question in the returning text message. we pretend as if we answer, but we are in fact voiding all responsibility to answer the first question by asking a second.

the adolescent individual will normally always be looking for a (better) job and will normally never manage to answer to more than one question in any context. she will always have a somewhat plausible excuse for being late, but you will both know that she is just using a standard template excuse, pretending as if it was impossible for her to affect the parameters that caused her delay.

the child.

the child individual is lively, random and can be quite funny to hang out with, at least the first minutes. she makes errors that seems unsystematic at best. her ability to extrapolate and avoid similar errors are close to zero. she will reply to 90% of your questions with a "huh". her excuses for coming late are most often to absurd to even have an opinion about. her status is normally "in school" or "i don't know, oi". she will find it hilarious if you say "pagsureoi" and her immediate comment to seeing your wad of 1000 php bills will be "you are handsome". setting out for any form of intelligent conversation with this group of individuals is bound for disaster. sex is as dramatic as eating an egg and she will most often enjoy it in a natural and unpretentious way. after the act she will immediately start to brush her hair and she will say "look i am peeing" when she [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133][CodeWord133][/url] in the shower over barba's feet.

b.[/quote]great post!

after being in the philippines for about 6 weeks now, i am still surprised about the number of girls i meet who seem to live in a completely different world. answering a simple question, following some easy instructions about where to meet etc, with some of them it just seems to be impossible.

coming weeks i plan to visit davao and cagayan de oro, so far i was in manila, cebu, ormoc, dumaguete and iloilo. so far so good, every day is a new adventure here. my favorites are the smaller places, i just love the girls from the provinces. but i learned to check the weather forecast before traveling. from experience i can tell now that even if you can see the other side of the water, spending an hour on a ferry here with heavy winds is not for office nerds like me.