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Excellent report Gonad Man. Was the name of the Paradise Anma written in Korean or English? Also, could you shed more light on its location with respect to the Subway Station (Jang An Pyeong) and if the station had many exits, which one was the closest? I will be in Seoul in 10 days and I would love to give it a try.

[QUOTE=Gonad Man]Well it was a rather lame Christmas Eve. After spending the whole night in a club with little options available, my korean buddy and I decided that the only thing that could cheer us up was some slipping and sliding and general fucking that only a paid experience can provide.

We took a cab to Jang An Dong. I had never been there before, but I did notice that it is easily accessible by subway, and not as far as I thought. Jang An Pyeong station on the Purple (No.5) line and a little walk down the street. It is a neighbourhood with many many An Mas (look for the signs that say 안마). So anyway, after a scout that was walking around convinced us to go to a place and we entered, got changed and saw the old and average girls that were going to service us, we re-clothed and exited. I would advise against scouts, unless you give them specific instructions about what you want. The thing is, I guess many people feel a little intimidated once their clothes are off... but don't be worried. There are plenty of nice girls in that area and it is so worth it when you find a hottie.

So we kept walking and due to the season, most places didn't have any girls. Some places won't take foreigners (I'm white as a sheet and don't speak Korean) so we just kept going. Another scout told us about a place called Paradise. We gave it a shot and what a blessing it was!

Inside it was clean and another customer told us that it was famous for its service and one of the most popular places there. I didn't really care, as long as the girl was hot. We paid our money. 90,000W for my friend (Korean) and 110,000W for me. It's a little more than I like to spend in a night, but it was christmas and I deserved a present. After a little waiting, I entered a room with a double bed and an adjoining shower room. I sat there and there was a little knock at the door. In came a pretty girl with big eyes and a perfect tight little ass. She was wearing these tiny little pants that clung to each cheek like a second skin. I got hard right then and there. She locked the door and put on some music and then it gets blurry... Either she showered me and then gave me an oil massage or the other way around. But whatever it was, it was a good massage and not rushed. She then took me to the shower room and had me lie on the bed in there while she soaped me up, scrubbed me and rinsed me. Then she applied oil all over me and all over her and started sliding around on my body, first with her tits, then with her pussy. I turned over and she slid her pussy all the way up to my face, then slid it all over my cock. Oh man, was that good. I still think about it now. A wet pussy sliding around on my chest is probably what I think heaven should be like.

After this, the same happened on the bed; another slip and slide, followed by some dick licking. I was a little tired, so I was drifting off, but something deep inside told me to get it together and enjoy the show. Next thing I know, I was getting blown...WELL. After all this I was so ready to bust a nut. She got on top of me and started slowly riding me. The key word is slowly. She was so gentle and I just enjoyed the feeling. I sucked on her tits which were not too big or small, just right. Eventually, I wanted some fast pumping so I threw her down and hit that shit. She didn't like the hard stuff much, really only letting me put 30% inside. That's only 2 inches, so I wasn't really cool with that. But whatever, she was hot and I got off.

All in all, an awesome experience. I don't know her name, but all I know is that the place is called Paradise and the service is damn good. There's no way I can ever go to a window again.

Gonad Out[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

Not been to Seoul for a while and I was wondering if anyone knew what was happening to Gina (or Jina) from one of the bars top of Hooker Hill on Right side. She has been there for three or four years (because I have visited her a few times on trips) but now I not go to Korea for 10 months and wondering if she still there. Anyone know? She offers the best sex/BBBJ/CIM/AR and total GFE I have had in Seoul. Last time came to hotelroom after finished work and stayed the night. Great Girl.

Please let me know of she is still there and give her my best good wishes! Tell her "Peter misses her"

Thanks guys

Peter E.

Nedski, I wonder that you and FunPlanet are talking about the same girl. Yumi is a suprisingly common name in that neighbourhood. I've heard it from no fewer than three girls.

I also know Yumi at the Tiger and I can confirm that she does not do [I]anything[/I] without coverage. Zip, doodoo, nada, not at thing. So it's not just you and you're missing nothing whatsoever.

About the place two doors up: I think maybe you're talking about Capital and that place has got to be the biggest clip joint on the hill. It doesn't matter how much or little you spend, all you will get is to cop a feel and a hand-job. And the middle-aged broad who owns the place is a *****-and-a-half. Extremely not recommended.

Jina's back. I saw her for the first time the other night, in almost a year.

She is good!

I went back for a little Yu Mi action last night...it's the bar next to Starbutts...I've know her for 3 years so maybe that's why it's possible to get a little extra...who knows..She sometimes, not always, will do CIM but I got her to last night, along with a little rimming action..

There is also a new girl working for her who I want try soon. Nice looking girl with, from what I could tell, a nice body. Much better than the cow who used to work with Yu Mi, by the name of Candy...ugh!

Leaving Yu Mi the chick from Starbutts pratically assaulted me coming out but told her I just got "relieved" and was going home...I went down the street and snuck back up and had an extra BJ from her...afterall, I'm still in the Christmas mood.

Not a bad evening but too much $$$$...gotta get back to Thailand soon

Miya from Fantasy Bar has been the one constant for me throughout this crackdown. I know she is moody but her service to me has always been top notch. I visted her the past week and once again she was great. she sucked for a good 25 mins without stop and never complained or stop to ask "are we there yet" nice and sloppy BJ too." Even after the release she doesn't just pull away she takes the last drop and continued to move her tongue around my head. I think you get better service from her if she gets use to you. Where else can you get service like this for W40,000? I just had to give her a W20,000.00 tip. Don't know why she would run customers off because she's always complaining about how slow it is. but hey,the first time I went to her club she ran me off too, but the next time I went back I started playing her little poodle and worked my way in so it can be done. I know USFK and all the patrols they have are irritating the shit out of her

She gave me her digits and I know there are others out there that have it because when I arrived someone was calling to make an apointment with her for later that night. As we all know too well YMMV

Happy New Year to all. Much Success in 05 :)

Saw Gina 12/28. She still works at Rous Club, but has taken lots of time off due to her mother's illness.
Thunderbolt

[QUOTE=Peter Eastwest]Gentlemen,

Not been to Seoul for a while and I was wondering if anyone knew what was happening to Gina (or Jina) from one of the bars top of Hooker Hill on Right side. She has been there for three or four years (because I have visited her a few times on trips) but now I not go to Korea for 10 months and wondering if she still there. Anyone know? She offers the best sex/BBBJ/CIM/AR and total GFE I have had in Seoul. Last time came to hotelroom after finished work and stayed the night. Great Girl.

Please let me know of she is still there and give her my best good wishes! Tell her "Peter misses her"

Thanks guys

Peter E.[/QUOTE]

NY Jimmy,

I'm not sure if you got the help you wanted so here's another suggestion for ya. Try 69 Anma. It's the closest Anma to the subway stop (just north) with a huge neon sign saying 69 and also Japanese and Korean signs. You can't avoid seeing it. You enter just below the small neon sign in Japanese and go downstairs and then there's a door to the left. I paid 100kwon in the massage room to the receptionist. They don't speak english at all so you may have trouble. I use sign language, I try to smile a lot, and I try to dress nicely. I can't guarantee what will happen if you can't speak some Korean.

The girls are mid-20's and pretty good looking, especially as compared to Itaewon, but maybe not as good as what you might see in 588 at the good shops. Service is complete with scrub, toothbrush, etc. although the massage may be disappointing. The massage is in a semi-public area and then off to the locked vaults with showers for the thorough washdown. They ask for a tip so I gave 10-20kwon.

A word of advice. You're better off being gentle with the girls and maybe letting them be in control. In general if they indicate to not insert deeply, it's not because you're bigger than Rocco, although it is a nice fantasy to have. It's more likely they're afraid of your big gut, or don't want to get their pelvic area hit, or don't want to be squashed under your overweight ass. If you feel uncomfortable with using their condoms (someone previously posted about a place reusing condoms - yuck I've never heard of this before), then you can buy high quality Japanese ones at any convenience store. And oh god don't look like a fool and demand larger American-size condoms. Easily verified by looking on the web or on the package, the size of all major brand condoms are basicly the same (i.e. EU standard).

I've never seen the sign for Paradise before in any language. The Korean "P" is pretty easy to recognize so maybe it's not easy to find although I'm far from an expert on Korean or on the area. I've seen others post about touts/scouts approaching them so if you could always ask a tout for Paradise. Personally I've never been approached by one. It must be my gangsta look ;o)

Good luck,

CB

CB,

I'm surprised you payed 100,000 KRW for the services as most places in Jang Ahn Dong are about 80,000 KRW and 90,000 KRW if using plastic.

Perhaps these were so called "foreign prices" but in any event the going rate is 80,000 KRW. It was especially nice of you to give that extra tip as I never do but it leaves a good impression and perhaps better servicing.

I just wanted to make sure that if you do wander around again in Jang Ahn Dong, make sure that 100,000 KRW is not the norm and tell the owner no thanks next time.

DH

Guys,

I am in Seoul for a week. I went to Anma 69 (it has a sign saying SIX NINE)yesterday with a Korean friend and guess what happened. They said NO FOREIGNERS ! My friend was extensively talking to the owners (in fact a woman and man owns the place) who claimed they never entertain foreigners.

My friend also told me that the area Anma69 is in is less open minded hence the ban for foreigners.

I am not saying the report posted about Anma 69 is not real I am just saying that I had a bad experience there as a foreigner even with a Korean present.

Now for Paradise : Actually there are two places that go by the name Paradise in Seoul. One of them is the one mentioned in Jang An Dong. I showed the report to my friend who said that that is the less popular and performant place.

The other Paradise he took me to yesterday is in Yuksamdong. You take Yeoksam station, Green Line2, exit 8 (100 meters walk). You are taking the good way if you have to walk up some long stairs and in the end you are facing the SAMSUNG SDS building (so you being on the opposite site of it). Then if you walk 100 meters up (right from the station, uphill) then the first street on your right will be the one hosting Paradise. The way you will recognize it is that it looks quite exquisite from the outside (standing out from the other buildings in quality) and is also illuminated by blue light. It also has some carpet laid in front of it covering the street also, partly.

Should you be lost you can hop in a taxi and ask to bring you to SAMSUN Mart. Then you end up exactly in the same street.

As you enter you turn left and go towards the receptionist, who will be located at the end of the corridor on the left side of it. On the right side there are some waiting rooms, mostly for those who are waiting for a specific girl to free up, or for a friend if they finished earlier than him (was the case for me).

So you talk to the receptionist, they speak very basic English and have no problem with foreigners. Since being foreigner my Korean friend managed to negotiate a special policy for me which is not normal in Anma's in Korea according to him. I had the chance to decline the first girl if I did not like her and be presented with a second on a take-it-or-leave-it basis with a full money refund if declined. I did not have a problem with the first girl at all :o)

Price is 180.000 KRW. One might find it hefty but I spend 150 EUR easily for a two hour session in Europe as well.

I won't detail the classic anma procedure, everybody is familiar with it I guess.
What I found outstanding is the attitude of the girl. DFK, DATY very intensively. In the end I got a nice classic massage, hot towels, facial massage and a shower in the end, being dried up afterwards like a baby.

I also have their phone number, PM me if you need it.

My girlie was KKachi (long black hair, firm body, decent tits and beautiful, full sized lips). My friend took Woojung of whom I cannot give a description.

Happy Mongering

Thrillseeker

Just a little update because I was a bit drunk I was there last time :o)

You take exit 8 from the Metro station and you start walking uphill from the station. You have to turn LEFT at the first street (not right coz otherwise you end up on the road :o)). Once in that street you will see a lot of NEON lights, proceed ahead and take the 3rd street on your right. This is the street where Paradise is. Carpet is removed and there is Green coverage on their parking now.

Thrillseeker

Two buddies of mine were "ripped off" on the hill in Itaewon and one in Osan. No bar names were given, they did not remember the names. They went in, gal sits next to you, small talk, etc. you buy a few drinks, start the touchy touchy routine and you're fingering her, the gal takes your cock out and starts playing with you, your pants are down around your knees, she excuses herself for a few minutes, comes back and plays with you somemore then "acts" startled and has to leave quickly. She tells you that you must leave quickly for whatever reason. You leave. What has just happen? While she had your pants down, she also took you wallet with her, returns and puts your wallet back into your pants while playing with your cock. Your wallet is now missing some money. One buddy lost $500.00. What can her do? Nothing at all. Just chock it up as a lesson. Be on your guard!

I am sure that most of us always "watch" our wallet/money. But, sometimes, we let our guard, er, pants down.

Both are military and can't complain. Off limits areas.

By Teri Weaver, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Sunday, January 9, 2005

SEOUL — A top 8th Army official is considering putting the string of bars and clubs in Itaewon known collectively as “Hooker Hill” off-limits to all U.S. servicemembers, workers and contractors.

Col. Timothy McNulty, the Area II commander who ultimately decides which businesses and areas in Seoul are off-limits to American personnel, said he has been working with Itaewon businesses and police officials for 90 days to encourage them to limit the prostitution and propositioning common on the hill.

The results have been slow, he said during a recent interview.

“If we can’t get this under control, one of my options would be to put the whole area off-limits,” McNulty said Wednesday. “There’s nothing set in stone. It’s something I reserve the right to do.”

The policy change under consideration is part of U.S. Forces Korea’s efforts to keep servicemembers from hiring prostitutes, a practice USFK and others believe supports [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url] on the peninsula, the commander said. Many bars and businesses on the hill — which is one block south of the main drag in Itaewon — support the effort, he said.

A meeting last week between McNulty and more than a dozen bar owners reflected some of that support, but also aired some grievances.

Some of the bar owners present were wary of other American policies, a point they made clear to McNulty during a meeting Thursday afternoon at the King Club.

They say business has dropped after USFK imposed a new drinking age and stricter curfew requirements late last year. The changes are driving servicemembers either to clear out a few minutes before midnight to meet the curfew, or to spend their money in other parts of Seoul where U.S. military police don’t have permission to patrol, they told McNulty.

It’s a frustrating position, both sides acknowledged, especially for bar owners who have been following requests by U.S. officials to help ensure a safer social environment. And that frustration is part of an ongoing dialogue between McNulty and the bar owners to air concerns and offer suggestions about improving the business and nightlife in Itaewon.

At last week’s meeting, McNulty handed out 23 certificates of appreciation to the bar owners for cooperating with USFK and making some changes in the last few months.

For example, USFK has asked the bars to hire bouncers, to discourage parking near the front doors, to refuse to serve alcohol to high-school students and to stop serving people — especially servicemembers — who already have had too much to drink. Many bars have complied.

The owners, in turn, graciously accepted the recognition and read a letter of thanks.

Then they got down to business.

Once again they asked McNulty to consider changing the curfew policy, which directs all U.S. personnel associated with USFK, including private contractors, to be home by midnight. They again objected to last fall’s change in the drinking age, which made it against military policy for servicemembers under 21 to drink, even off-base. The South Korean drinking age is 20.

McNulty said he would pass both requests along, but offered little hope that the policies would change. The drinking age was changed to bring it in line with U.S. laws, he said, and the curfew aids USFK’s protection of its personnel from terrorists and other threats, he said.

Another objection involves the “courtesy patrols,” where U.S. military police and South Korean police tour Itaewon to look for curfew violators or people who might be in off-limits bars. Those patrols are distinct to Itaewon, and the servicemembers know it, the bar owners said Thursday. More and more American customers are going to the Hong-ik University area in Seoul, where USFK has no agreement with local police.

McNulty acknowledged the concerns, and said he’s working to get patrols added to Hong-ik and other areas in Seoul. In the last couple of weeks, there were two fights among servicemembers in areas of Seoul outside of Itaewon, he said, adding that one victim still was recovering in the hospital.

“We’ve been putting on the full-court press,” he told the group. “I understand. And I do voice your concerns.”

Still, all this has hurt business, said Kim Sam Sook, who owns the Grand Ole Opry and East N West on the hill. She favors cleaning up the hill. If it’s put off-limits, however, that means no U.S. servicemember, worker or contractor could even walk by her bars.

“Itaewon is my life. I don’t want this kind of business,” she said of the prostitution and of the bar her family has run since 1969. “I know many, many soldiers. Now they say off-limits. It pisses me off.”

The decision about closing access to the hill hasn’t been made, McNulty stressed during an interview in his office on Wednesday.

Prostitution is illegal under South Korean law, and McNulty said he’s been encouraging local South Korean police officials and bar owners to enforce their own laws. There is little U.S. officials can do, however, other than limit customers and hope to affect supply and demand.

The majority of bars on the hill already are off-limits to U.S. personnel, he said. The remaining ones are traditional bars and dance clubs and don’t like that their customers often must walk by propositioning women just to come in and play pool or dance, he said.

“It’s good,” said Oh Chang-Kun, the manager of King Club, a bar at the foot of the hill that his family has run since 1975.

“They are going to change it soon,” he predic

The JoongAng Ilbo in their Jan 11 edition printed a pretty dreadful story about a section of the English Spectrum website called Ask The Playboy. The gist of it is that English teachers come over here and brag about how the money is easy and the Korean girls are even easier.

You can imagine the Koreans' reaction.

The piece (in Korean, I doubt it will be translated and put in the English JoongAng) can be found here:

[url]http://news.joins.com/society/200501/11/200501110731533631300030103011.html[/url]

Perhaps some kind soul on this board will print a translation.

Setting aside issues of journalistic integrity and anti-foreign sentiment pandering by the JoongAng, all of us can expect a backlash while walking down the street with a homegrown hottie. Lots of swearing, possible attacks by some of the more militant young bucks who fancy themselves.

Just a heads up is all.

Hope the lack of activity on this board is due to the server problems and not indicative of what's going on in Seoul.

I'll be in town for three days next week. Seoulman, I've sent you a PM and looking to meet your girl.

Thanks

Hi Guys,

I have been doing alot of mongering these past weeks and I must say that things look like they are back to normal in the RLDs post Crackdown but it seems that only about half the shops are open.

Have been to Yongsan RLD 3 times and have had mixed results.

588 I have only been once and The girls there are HOT!!! but the service was really clinical.

Miari - have been twice and have had a good time there both times.

I asked all the girls I was with what the story was with the crackdown and they said that things are back to normal for now.

I still have yet to find some real GFE in Seoul. Anyone have any suggestions.

Thanks

Kudos to Jackson for getting this board back up. Now just need to get all the folks in Korea back up and posting. I'm starting to run out of ideas.

Went to Seoul for the first time in almost a year last week and had two great experiences in one night. If you want specific clubs, PM me and I'll send you the names.

First encouter was with Chewie. She's the tallest Korean I've ever seen. Something like 6'2 and very well proportioned. I had been with her before last year. Was really surpriosed when I saw her in one of the bars.

Three drinks (Won 60K) got me a fantastic strip tease and BBBJTC. Was great to find her again and will visit again soon.

Went and go something to eat and walked around some more. Gal popped out of a club and said "I know you". This is a common routine to get you to stop. In this case, it was true. Don't know which of us was more surprised. Name was Sun Me and she has more of a traditional Korean body. Around 5'0 and maybe 95 lbs, also very well proportioned.

Negotiated two hours back in my room for WON 200k. She showed up wearing those low cut, tight jeans with high heels that I love. After some conversation, got down to business with round one. Something about this gal really trips my trigger. Started with a great BBBJ and CFS in multiple positions.

Smoked a cigarette and talked for a while and decided to go for round two. Since I was trying for the third nut of the night, was having some problems coming. After about 10 minutes of great head, she laid back on the bed and started playing with herself. I was kneeling over her and she was looking me right in the eye and telling me to come on her tits. That's all it took and I blasted her.

This gal is the bomb. Unfortunatley, she doesn't do CIM, CIF or anal. Told me for an additional 200k, I could have her all night. And it was only 10pm. I was sorely tempted but exhausted and had to pass.

Only observation is seems prices are down and girls much more willing to negotiate. Seemed in the past 200k an hour was the standard to come back to the room and 600k for an all nighter.

All the girls I talked to started at 300k but came down before I said anything. For a grand total of 260K, I had two different girls and got to bust three times.


This board is dead. Would appreciate others sharing information, if only in a generic fashion in order to protect the establishment.

Cruised the hill on Saturday night but not much to report. The girls seem desperate and was offered a 20k bj by some worn out looking girl about halfway up the hill. Sunny was there and was quite desperate to get me in the bar but just was not in the mood...does anyway, besides me, think she is a chick with a dick? Just a feeling, only had a bj from her a couple of years ago.

The old Tiffany's is up and running by the same old gal. It seems the previous owner got married and sold to the gal and her sister. She had a newbie working (dyed blonde hair), bought her a drink but did not like the way her hands felt (hot and sweatie). Seemed to have some purple marks on her skin (HIV???)

Saw some LB's at Ambrosia but weren't even worth talking to for the hell of it...skanky looking

Saw two young ones working at Mage's, across from Tiffany's. Went in and talked but they were too $ hungry...100k for a bj??? told 'em I take both of them for that much if they swallowed but they said it was 100k for one girl...[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off

Didn't see many mongers out, perhaps cause it was fairly cold...I'll wait until warmer weather.

Seoul seems dead for mongering. Can't wait to get back to Thailand in April.

Halfway up the hill, Where was the chick offering 20k Bj. There are two on the hill I would like to experience. One being this short haired chick with huge tits and the other with long curly hair. I dont think they are LB.

Debating whether to head up there later tonight.

So feel free to post the bargains on the hill! :)

It appears that the Military has extended the curfew to 1AM on Fridays, Saturdays and Holidays. The curfew also is lifted for DOD Civilians and Contractors, the off limit areas still are off limits though. Now there will be more competition after hours.

I have heard that there is a street of Russian pros near Itaewon. Does anyone know where this is? Or does anyone know an area where Russian girls are many?


Thanks


RM

As you make a right at the traffic light to head up 'the hill' in Itaewon, you'll find a Russian bar on the left. In there you'll find Russian SWs. Mean and expensive beeyatches most likely on crack.

Ok boys, fess up. Which of you has ever done any of those putrid street women?

hope this helps, nick

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Anyway I just got back from a trip where I was surrounded by sexy teenagers. I came home got changed and headed up the hill before it got too busy or I could get scrutinised going in and out of a place.

So I hit up a place that is opposite grand ol opry. A little down tho. Went in got a beer for 5k and tried to negoiate a blowjob without all that lady drink crap.

She wanted 100k for a BJ and we would go back to her house, I went ummmm No.. Also she said all the bars are doing it. I went ummm no they arent and prompty left. It was about 7.30pm Saturday and not many bars were open.

Ambrosia opened her door, but I heard a rumour she was a LB so I sheered away. The chick at VIP looked nice but it was too close to the main road for my liking. Also I got a LB vibe from her as well.

I swore I wasnt gonna go to fantasy again because im sick of that place and the dog makes the place smell. So I went to a place opposite Fantasy called sweethearts.

Got a CJB for 50k. She was talented and I wish I could have cum from that but I can only come in strange wierd ways. Anyway I wanted her to strip for my while she blew me but she really freaked me out when she said no. I said I want to see your pussy and she said, No Pussy only dick and im LIKE WTF.

I did the adams apple test when I came in and it wasnt there and I patted her down and didnt feel any bulge. So she then said she was joking.

Decent enough service. Felt the tits, didnt feel fake at all.

Face 6.
Body 5
Service 9.

She caught the cum in her hands. Very wierd.

On another note, my friend was telling me his brother just became a policeman and now has 4 AnMas under his "protection" and he is gonna treat me next week.

This should be fun.

Stay Tuned.

Thrillseeker II,

Thanks for your previous lead. In fact, I used your previous instruction but could not find Paradise. In fact, I found another one called Elise.

The entrance fee is also W180,000. I was directed to a room, which is quite spacious. Here came the lady, she was tall, face OK but with small boobs. I knew that the mamasan was not going to bring the girl that I wanted (big) since she did not know any english other than collecting money. Anyway, I have to live with it.

She started off with a shower, very gentle and washed every part of my body. Then the rest is funny. She asked for all special service to me, like nail cutting, hair washing, etc. My mind was that let's go for the real action. However, she did not give up and at last, I let her to cut my nails since they were a bit long. I thought it would be a so-so job but it turned out that she spent 15 min cutting my nails, really taking care of them. I looked at the watch and one hour was done without any real action. I was a bit worried since I was not told how long I was given. Again, I had to live with what had been offered since it was just impossible to communicate since the lady did not speak any English. Then, she started massaging me, starting with hands and legs. Then, she became attacking some sensitive parts, like my knees, and the feeling was so wonderful!

Finally, the real action was about to start she started catbath my thighs and then my balls, and then a wonderful bj. After 5 min., we started off fj. It was a SOP and the small size of her did not really turn me on. Fortunately, the foreplay that she had on me had got me a bit excited that I finished the job in 10-15 mins

Overall, I thought it was expensive but with the funny side jobs she had on me (nail cutting, etc) and the catbath (different from girls from other countries like Malaysia or China), it is worth a try and in particular, those glass-house and Hooker Hill became less available.

Does anyone know what happened to the girls at Cheers? Last time I was there in December 2004 no one was there and the owner/bartender doesn't speak english well. One of them had short hair, incent looking (not that she is) and worked during the day at some office in Kangnam. I was there in 2003 and was my first time there and she said they didn't do anything illegal but had to buy them 20k drinks to talk. After 80k of drinks over 2 hours she finally agreed to go to my hotel for 200k. She did bbbj and covered fs for a few hours and was a gfe. There also was another girl with long hair, cute, and talked alot. I will go back again next week and check again. They were great compared to the others on the hill that only want money and have an attitude. Any info would be great, please pm me.

Poor Japanese guy busted by the cops at 588:

(in Korean for those who can get this translated):

[url]http://news.naver.com/news/read.php?mode=LSS2D&office_id=020&article_id=0000289050&section_id=102&section_id2=249&menu_id=102[/url]

careful mongering out there gents...

smoke and mirrors,

There usually are no obvious signs of drug use among hookers but there is a drug called " Bong " pronouce the O as you would in bone, from what I hear they inject it and it's pretty pricy. All other drugs are pretty difficult to find except for weed which can be purchased in itaewon.

Sam Katz aka ...

About the Japanese guy getting busted at 588, what are the odds of getting caught in Yongsan, do you think? I thought things were pretty much back to normal now, what's going on? How come some of you can go to Hooker hill without any worries and that guy gets cayght in 588?

You can get pop, its just like any where else you go. You have to use good judgement. The Cops patrol the Hill and the RLDs, just don't be too obvious. I posted a report about In and Out a while back after the so called crackdown where the Cops pulled the curtain while I was being serviced, they scared the shit out of me.

Who knows what this poor guy's story was and why he got popped? Maybe he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, didn't say the right thing to the Cops, you just don't know, There's still a lot of great service to be had over here but You must always proceed with caution these days in every sense of the word.

Visited that place twice (SoongSil line 7). Nice place and nice guy, long massage then HJ in small comfortable rooms. The girls were 7's, the service fairly good. As others have said, it's not for everybody, as you really don't get anything more than massage and HJ, you can't even touch the girls all that much. 60,000 is a little steep for just that I think, I wouldn't mind paying a bit more to get more, but it's not possible there. Might go there once in a while, but a good 'barber shop' is a better deal I think.

Mongers,

I made another trip back to Janh Ahn Dong and did not see any cops whatsoever. My understanding is that these places are still somewhat illegal yet everyone knows that business is still operational.

I believe I do not have to explain what the Jang Ahn Dong experience is like for I have posted about this topic in the threads before. I just wanted to state that cops are not out in full force like before but mongers should beware of the consequences.

DH

Just to remind everyone the new law will punish foreigner & police will inform their respective embassy for release- Guys beware.

In a truly heart-wrenching story, the Dong-A Ilbo reports that a Japanese tourist — a 24-year-old university student known only as Mr. M — was busted on Saturday night for attempting to solicit sex from a prostitute in Cheongnyangni’s infamous “588″ red light district. The unfortunate tourist had just forked over W60,000 to a 23-year-old Ms. Kim and was about to complete the business transaction, so to speak, when the blue boys swooped in for the arrest. To add to the embarrassment, the Japanese embassy was informed of his transgression. Mr. M told police that “588″ was quite famous on the Internet (perhaps he saw this film), so he paid the naughty neighborhood a visit out of curiosity. He also said that in Japan, men are not usually punished for purchasing the services of a young lady. Police stressed, however, that Korea is NOT Japan, and foreigners will be punished according to the nation’s tough new anti-prostitution laws as well.

I was in Seoul over the summer and had no problem meeting the Russian women, if you were willing to take a little risk. There is a strip club in the general area of Hooker Hill, and the International clinic. This club is owned by russians, presumably russian mob. If you look western, for the right tip and a cover charge for the club, they are happy to tell you all the places where the Russian ladies can be had. There is actually a little Russian area near the Mosque, but my memory is not allowing me to give clear directions. It is that general area though.

Hey guys,

I visit Seoul about once a month on business. Just wanted to let you know that my "go to" BBS is still going strong, but it's noticeably more cautious since the crackdown.

Now I'm not sure if they're foreigner friendly since I'm Korean-American. But my Korean is okay, but definitely not fluent.

If you want to give it a try, it's across the street from the COEX between the Intercontinental (the new one) and the airport bus terminal. In fact, there are three BBS's to be seen across the street from the terminal, all within a 100m walk. The one I'm referring to is the furthest on the right to the north, near the Outback Steakhouse. When you reach the poles, you have to walk another 20 meters down the side street until you see it on the right side, next to a club called "Shall We". The BBS in the basement.

My latest visit was around 1am. Was escorted to the massage cubicle where I disrobed and paid the 90000K for the "special" massage. Once ready, in walks a 23ish gal (face: 7, breast: 8, body: 8) who gave a great massage. During the massage, she'd flirt with Mr. Happy by brushing against it time to time. After a 30-minute rubdown, here comes the BBBJ. After donning the protection, she hops on for a great ride. Although she was far from GFE, she was into the FS and didn't disappoint.

They are definitely more cautious as I could hear the gal telling the papasan to keep an eye out, just before she came back to give me FS.

By the way, if you didn't know, many of these places offer a good night's rest if you arrive late. No extra charge from this place.

My two cents.

BC

Had a long weekend of drinking and partying in Itaewon this past weekend. Let me tell you, Itaewon has definately under gone some changes. The Sex scene is still there, but it's a far cry from what it use to be.

Anyway, after hanging out Friday night at Gecko's, King Club and the Lime Light, and looking for, but not finding that drunk Korean girl that could be pryed away from her friends, I hit Hooker Hill at around 0530 am Saturday morning. I started at the top of the hill and decided to try a place called No 1 Club. Don't go there! The lady was a real head trip and started talking about Jesus Christ and the bible. She wanted 400,000 won for FS off site and I didn't ask about the BJ. The place stank like shit too. So I blew outta there.

I walked down and got the usual propositions from all the regulars in the clubs on the right. Not a big showing of girls though. I guess many of them have gone elsewares since the crack down. I decided to go into the VIP down the hill on the left. They always have a nice selection of girls. There was a 22 year old Korean girl whose skin color was darker than most. Kinda like the same complexion as a Thai girl. She offered to go off site for $400. I opted for the 60,000 won BBBJ instead. She took her clothes off, let me suck on her very small breasts, and gave a pretty decent BJ. Maybe I'll try her again later.

Saturday night left me doing the same thing. Hitting the clubs, collecting phone numbers, but not finding that one drunk girl to take back to the motel.
Around 0600 Sunday morning, I headed for Star Butts, across the street from th King Club. I've been there many times so the owner, who is very good looking, was happy to see me. She told me she was on her period and couldn't do FS with me, but to try her girl Kimmie. So for $100, I gave Kimmie a try. She was pretty good. Gave BBBJ then moved on to CBJ. She Hopped on and rode me for awhile then turned over and offered me some doggy action without being prompted. Worth the $100. I probably go back next time my regular is on the rag again just so I can do Kimmie. She was Fun.

On a side bar, I use to post as Travaholic but when Jackson changed to the new server it dumped me or something. I have requested a new name. I think Yella Man will work. Anyway, Keep it real guys!

Yella Man

Here is another unbelievable story, be careful out there

South Korean police bust spouse swapping website for obscenity

By William Sparrow and agencies
March 23, 2005

Police have busted the operator and members of an online swingers community in South Korea. The nation’s largest partner-swapping site with more than 5,000 registered members, had in one year arranged over 400 sexual encounters involving both unmarried individuals and married couples.

More than 150 suspected South Korean swingers have been questioned by police so far for possibly violating pornography laws by posting naked pictures of themselves on a Web site for spouse swapping.

Members are said to include upper-class Koreans. Busan police detained on Tuesday a 37-year-old man identified as Yu for founding and operating the website and arranging for what police described as "abnormal" sexual relations between the community's members.

Yu founded the site in September 2003, recruited members for the site, and arranged for sexual encounters including partner swaps and group sex. Videos and pictures from the encounters were put on the site, and police suspect Yu made over W50 million (US$50,000) from membership fees.

The website included some 1,200 photos and videos, 300 of which were taken by members during their sexual encounters.

Among the trysts Yu is suspected of having arranged was a December 16, 2004 orgy in a guesthouse in Yangpyeong, Gyeonggi Province involving 16 members who engaged in partner swapping and two-on-one sex. Police believe site members engaged in over 400 sexual encounters in all and plan to call 200 members suspected of involvement for questioning.

Yu told police members would look at nude photos or videos of couples having sex, and if they liked what they saw, they would contact the site and arrange to have sex with the individuals in places like hotels. He said high-income earners including the CEO of a mid-sized firm made up the bulk of the community's members.

Yu classified members into four categories according to their activity, taking into account the photos they took of themselves, their sexual encounters and payment of membership dues. Men were required to be over 25 to join, and women over 23. Membership fees were W32,000 for two months, with the option of a W120,000 lifetime registration fee. Police said about 450 users were lifetime members.

The police have evidence of more than 400 meetings between members on the Web site where they swapped partners or engaged in group sex, media reports said. However, police admit to being on shaky ground. They say while swinging may be detrimental to public morality, it is a consensual activity and there are no legal grounds for punishing it.

Authorities hope to pursue the matter under related pornography and obscenity laws.

The Web site called "Bubu Plus" had attracted more than 5,000 fee-paying members over the past two years simply from word of mouth.

It seems that tough times have forced some vendors to increase the attractiveness of the service. It certainly is the case with Friends. I've been a regular visitor for about a year, but lately I haven't been as much due to the poor quality of girls. However, my latest outing gave me quite a surprise.

Not only do they have more than twice the number of new girls, but also the girls are twice as hot.. AND it's no longer just a massage HJ deal. Now, the girls are topless and give a little kissing service. I have to say, it was a welcome surprise. Not only that, their price has gone down from 60K to 50K for the next week or so I think. I kid you not.

The massage was the same as it always has been and personally I'm not that into the massage part. It's nice and all, but hey, that's not where most of my stress is. The kissing element all over my back and chest however was a nice sensation, as was the sight of some nicely formed breasts to lighten my mood.

For those who don't know, Friends is at Soongsil Station (Line#7 I think.. Dark Green) exit 2, 200 meters down the hill. I think the name has changed now and I forget the name, something like Sol Lay Im or something. Anyway, it's downstairs next to some big fish tanks. The guy there speaks good English so it's very foreigner friendly.

I plan to head back in a week to check out the other girls. I went there at night, but I hear there are more girls during the day.

Gonad

Hi Guys,

I was feeling like some fun last night and headed towards Yongsan RLD. Noticed there was alot of activity but the wrong kind. I noticed that the lights were on in all the shops but no girls were out as usual. Also noticed there were some undercover and uniformed cops going door to door to each shop and checking for any "illegal" activities.

I am thinking that this crackdown is due to the fire in a brothel on sunday that caused the death of 5 working women.

Just watch it guys and be careful cause it looks like the crackdown on.

Wow, Gonadz, does that include the lovely Hyun-joo?

Hi guys,

I was just with a girl in Yongsan RLD and asked her about the Crackdown.

She said that the crackdown was going to start again and she didnt know when? I was about to walk out when I heard this but I didnt. After my service she walked me out but before she let me out she called the mama san to check that the coast was clear. WOW. If things are this bad I am not going again. Guys watch it out there. It is tricky.

Stop going to the most popular places for services such as Yongsan,588,Yeungdengpo and Miari. Ofcourse the cops are going to concentrate on those places. Go to an Anma and you should be much safer. I seen it happen at Yeungdengpo, they had a regular small car with 5 cops packed inside as you can see from the outfits. and another car on the other end of the RLD doing the same not moving. And a cop car with lights on driving 2 miles per hour throughout the whole row every 10 minutes. At 588 I have seen cops walking around on foot atleast 8 of them. Back to yeungdengpo, across the street are a jeep and regular car with pimp secuirty guards(I forget the specific name for these gangsters) letting the brothel girls know when to shut off all lights and when the cops are coming. I was cruising with my friend in his lexus and ironically all the girls were yelling at us that it is safe and to come in, yea and this is all in the dark, not one brothel had a light on. I laughed at them and said I would rather not go to jail tonight and we drove off. Moral of the story, stay away from RLDs if you can. Play safe mongers.


Sam Katz aka ....

I have to agree with Sam on the topic of red light districts here in Korea. With the possibility of getting caught and the consequences of fines and even deportation, just go to the massage places.

Of course there also lies a risk but you do not see patrol cars running around. Not to mention the service is better.

DH

Anyone can advise any agents which can arrange girls to hotel in Seoul?

In and Out Massage has an unsual girl working there by their standards in that she is older than their typical teenage type workers. I consider her a pro or at least pro-like. She said she is 32 and was living in NJ and just recently return to Korea, bummer forgot her name, I think is Jin-e of Gina. Btw, stay away from So-Phe, she's a young slender 22 yr old but will not allow any touching and is very business like.

Back to the Pro, you can tell she's been around but she's very accommodating, spreading her legs and allowing fingering all in the way in, very much a GFE type girl but came on her money problem story towards the end. Still she is enjoyable, the girl I really liked there because she did oblige with head from time to time is Hyun-jae, but they said she is away,who knows for how long

As far as that goes, you can always look up in the English newspapers for outcall massage services. if your Korean is good, you can even call those business cards you find on cars but let me advise you that the picture on the card is not the same girl that will come to your place.

Usually they are a notch or two below.

Happy hunting.

Where's In and Out? Can't seem to find directions.

Thanks

This report was posted on this thread by someone else before. I had it saved in one of my folders.

HYU GE TEL DIRECTIONS:

(1) FRIENDS - Soongsil Univ Station (Line 7). Exit 2. Walk straight. 2 mins. Basement. Easy!

(2) ORANGE - Hwagok Station (Line 7) Exit 7. Walk straight. 6 minutes. Basement.

(3) APPLE - Yeoido Station (Line 5) Exit 3. Walk straight. Cross main road. Enter Yeoido Park. Walk through. Cross street. Walk in direction of Chong Wah Dae (National Assembly). At next main road will be HYUNDAI CAPITAL building on the corner. Turn right. Walk one block. Next to LG store is ECLAT building. Take elevator to Level 5. Walk to DOOR 507 and Ring doorbell. Time from station - around 15 minutes.

(4) PRADA - Dangsan Station (Line 2) Exit 2?? Walk on main street PERPENDICULAR to station, in direction of Yeongdeungpo. On Level 2 above KB Star? bank (or very, very nearby). Warning, if you can't read Hangul, give it a miss as no English sign. Time 6-8 minutes from station.

(5) CREAM - , Seoul Univ Station (Line 2) get a taxi driver who knows where it is. Should cost around 2 500 Won from Station.

(6) BVLGARI - Yeoksam Station (Line 2). Exit 7. Walk straight. At major intersection where Cha Hospital stands, turn right. %0 m up the road. Level 2 above ski shop. 15 minutes from station.

(7) - BLUE Take Number 300 bus and get off at NOSTALGIA HOTEL. Look for CONTINENTAL HOTEL NIGHT CLUB. Across from there you can see a side street with BLUE sited on Level 2 above a restaurant.

(8) IN & OUT - Itaewon Station. Exit 3. Walk to intersection. Turn right. Walk up to where Indian Joe's is and turn left, in direction of Mosque. Opposite LG 25 Store. Basement. Time - 10 minutes from station.

(9) HAVANA. Yeongdeungpo Station. Walk to Rotary, turn left on hairpin. 30 m. Level 3. Look for blue sign.

Well walked up the hill on the way to pollys and I got touted by Tiger Tavern. It was Yu-mi again. She is back. She was too cute not to say no to.

So went in and negoiated 70k for 45 mins. CBJ and just talking and stuff. Credit carded it up as the ATMS were closed. Anyway she didnt have any money for her machine so she wanted to take my card down to VIP to charge it there. I was like Um no way. My card doesnt leave my sight. So she says lets go down together and im like Um no because I dont want to be seen down there.

So she rang around and got some paper for her machine. She charged me and away she goes. CBJ for like 10 mins before she complained about her jaw. I got to finger her with a condom on my finger while she blew me.

It was a bit of a mood killer to hear her say Hurry up hurry up. But after a good hand job, I got her to bend over and finger herself while I jerked off.

After that I had about 25 mins of her talking to me and her laying on top of me. It was actually nicer then the BJ part of the night.

Got into her head a bit about what she does what she does. Like I know she is out for the money, but not a two faced ***** bout it tho.

Will go back again sometime just for the company.

Any other good stories on the hill?

Fellow posters & mongers,

I'm flying back from Aus to UK for a visit home in early May on Korean Airlines. The flight schedule means I have to overnight in Seoul. The travel agent hasn't advised the name of the hotel yet, but I'm assuming it will be in the vicinity of the irport rather than the city. Can anyone advise where/how I can find some action? Allowing for airport formalities and travel time, etc, I expect to have from around 6pm until 11 am the following day to kill. Not necessarily looking for anything "super special" but wouldn't want to have that time there and not use it. For example, any chance the hotel might have a gym/health club offering massage with BJ/HJ as extras? Any advice from you more experienced Korean mongers much appreciated.

Dear all,

I am going to Seoul in May and would like to find high class Korean escort services. Can anyone help?

Awotam, check out my post in the "other areas" section on 11-04-04. You will probably be staying at "new city" about 5 miles outside the airport. It is a stopover place for travellers and is full of hotels, restraunts, bars and a few MPs. I found a good MP. Directions are in ref'ed post. Enjoy

[QUOTE=Business Class]Hey guys,

If you want to give it a try, it's across the street from the COEX between the Intercontinental (the new one) and the airport bus terminal. In fact, there are three BBS's to be seen across the street from the terminal, all within a 100m walk. The one I'm referring to is the furthest on the right to the north, near the Outback Steakhouse. When you reach the poles, you have to walk another 20 meters down the side street until you see it on the right side, next to a club called "Shall We". The BBS in the basement.

My latest visit was around 1am. Was escorted to the massage cubicle where I disrobed and paid the 90000K for the "special" massage. Once ready, in walks a 23ish gal (face: 7, breast: 8, body: 8) who gave a great massage. During the massage, she'd flirt with Mr. Happy by brushing against it time to time. After a 30-minute rubdown, here comes the BBBJ. After donning the protection, she hops on for a great ride. Although she was far from GFE, she was into the FS and didn't disappoint.

They are definitely more cautious as I could hear the gal telling the papasan to keep an eye out, just before she came back to give me FS.
BC[/QUOTE]Bro BusinessClass,

I found the place and it is down the stair and on your right, is that the right place? I don't speak Korean and can you tell me more what I should said in English when I enter the place ? From your report, 90K Wons for 30mins massage plus FS is worth it assuming the gal is presentable.

I finally made my way back to Seoul. The last time I was there (Oct 04), it was right in the midst of the crackdown. Suffice to say, that was my worst experience in Seoul as far as the hobby is concerned.

Back to the matter at hands. I was sure that this trip, things can only get better. Due to my busy schedule, I did not have the chance to visit 588. Rather, my friends took turn taking me to massage club.

The first night, we were supposed to go to this massage club where their USP (unique selling proposition) was two girls. Instead, the taxi recommended us to try another place where most of his customers go to. We gave it a shot. Good call. The whole experience was very nice.

First, we changed our clothes and did some hot bath sauna action. Then we got massage from the blind masseuse. The third session, I was guided to yet another room where the main course await. The girl was pretty nice...I would rate her a 7 with her breast rated as an 8.

Nice back scrub with some herbal product. Followed by a mini bath (Bangkok MP is a bit better and more luxurious). Then I was seated on this contraption that with a floating toilet lid and nothing underneath.

The girl squirted this edible oil on me. Started to lick and suck me...doing things with her mouth that made me jump. The best part is when she slid down beneath the toilet seat and give me a really sensual rim job.

Then i was asked to stand up where she continued to masage me from behind. Then off to the bed. Then to the main action. She even asked me afterward if I enjoyed her service.

The whole experience took about 2 and a half hour. 180,000 won. Worth every penny. Since my other friends picked up girls from the discotechque, the one that took me to the massage club decided to sleep over at this place. And they have such accomodation!!! This is just way cool.

The second time, my other friend took me to the other Massage Club called Ace. One of them is the VIP there and made sure that I got the best that they have to offer at that time (3am). Face-wise, this one is a 7.5...a bit better than the first one. However, the service is not as good as the first massage club. Same price. I mean, it's not bad at all but the first one just gave me couple things that I hadn't experience before.

I talked to my friend who took me to the first one to compare experience. He told me that the two girls place is still a bit better...mainly because it's two girls. Same price. Seems like 180,000 is the standard for this type of place. The idea is taht one of the girls wears only a mask and while the other one you can see her face fully. The masked one service you with her mouth while you have sex with the one who's not wearing a mask.

I'm going back to Seoul tonight. I'll try my best to go to this 2 girls place and report back.

PS I think these places do not normally get foreigner and have failry solid arrangement with LE. As such, I do not sense any danger at all from the crackdown at both places.

Brother Seeknewss,

Sounds like you found it. When you get to the place, you'll find a papasan who usually looks half asleep. I assume if papasan is okay with a foreigner (I assume you're not Korean), then he'll present you with either an Anmo massage or "other" massage. Tell him, "Jo-won massagee jusaeyo" which basically means "Please give me the good massage." He'll get the message.

By the way, the gal I saw was one of the better ones at this establishment. There have been others around 30+, so YMMV.

Brother ThaiDude,

Where is the first massage club located? These days, I'm more interested in a great massage than the FS (I know this is heresy in this forum). Don't get me wrong, brothers. I love the FS, but a great massage really sets the mood for me for a strong finish in the end.

BC

Cruised by Yongsan RLD Saturday Night to see how things are going. They waved at me then saw that I was White and then sat back down. One even said sorry. I guess they are not foreigner friendly with all the pressure coming down from the U.S. and the Police to non koreans.

[QUOTE=Denny2000]Thrillseeker II,

Thanks for your previous lead. In fact, I used your previous instruction but could not find Paradise. In fact, I found another one called Elise.

The entrance fee is also W180,000. I was directed to a room, which is quite spacious. Here came the lady, she was tall, face OK but with small boobs. I knew that the mamasan was not going to bring the girl that I wanted (big) since she did not know any english other than collecting money. Anyway, I have to live with it.

She started off with a shower, very gentle and washed every part of my body. Then the rest is funny. She asked for all special service to me, like nail cutting, hair washing, etc. My mind was that let's go for the real action. However, she did not give up and at last, I let her to cut my nails since they were a bit long. I thought it would be a so-so job but it turned out that she spent 15 min cutting my nails, really taking care of them. I looked at the watch and one hour was done without any real action. I was a bit worried since I was not told how long I was given. Again, I had to live with what had been offered since it was just impossible to communicate since the lady did not speak any English. Then, she started massaging me, starting with hands and legs. Then, she became attacking some sensitive parts, like my knees, and the feeling was so wonderful!

Finally, the real action was about to start she started catbath my thighs and then my balls, and then a wonderful bj. After 5 min., we started off fj. It was a SOP and the small size of her did not really turn me on. Fortunately, the foreplay that she had on me had got me a bit excited that I finished the job in 10-15 mins

Overall, I thought it was expensive but with the funny side jobs she had on me (nail cutting, etc) and the catbath (different from girls from other countries like Malaysia or China), it is worth a try and in particular, those glass-house and Hooker Hill became less available.[/QUOTE]Denny 2000,

I had the same experience at the After flight Center at the Amari Hotel just outside the Bangkok Airport in late January this year. The lady did a pedicure after sex and wanted to do a manicure. I couldn't see wasting my time doing this so I had skip all of that and head to round two.

[QUOTE=Business Class]


Brother ThaiDude,

Where is the first massage club located? These days, I'm more interested in a great massage than the FS (I know this is heresy in this forum). Don't get me wrong, brothers. I love the FS, but a great massage really sets the mood for me for a strong finish in the end.

BC[/QUOTE]

Brother BC,

Sorry to say but I had no idea where we went accept that it was in Kangnam. I remembered trying to look at the sign but of course my memory went out as quickly as my money for the hobby.

There are only two names I ever remember from my experience in Korea and that's because they are room salon girls that I actually had/have pseudo relationship with. Having said that, my friend who took me to the place will soon return from his vacation to Vietnam. I will contact him and ask to see if he remembers direction to the place.

That's a segue for me...so I returned Seoul as mentioned in my earlier post. My said friend was in Vietnam and he was the only one of all my friends who knows about this two girls place. Suffice to say, that was a no-go for me.

I did get to use the serviceat 588 A-row. Those girls were indeed gorgeous and compatible to girls at B-grade room salon. Some A-row girls will accept me although not all.

I scouted 588 the night before after I finished off an anma experience with a friend. He's an American working there. He basically got rejection from all rows at 588 although he took it quite well...under the circumstance. With him, my chance at row A was zero with some at row B willing to accept me. Luckily I finished off at the anma earlier so I'm cool with just looking that night although my friends did try hard with his Korean to score.

I returned the next day with my Korean friend and it became 100% at row B and 70% at row A. Anyways, I chose one of the girls I'd looked at the night earlier. Asked her about special service where she will come out to a hotel with me for one hour (this was suggested by our taxi driver...didn't know before that I can do this...and not all of them will do it). She quoted 180,000.

I decided a quickie is enough since the 588 would be my first one for the night...I planned to cap it off at either an anma or room salon. The girl was typical K-pop cute with gobs of make-up and gravity defying platform.

The experience was nothing to write home about. She's definitely an 8 in term of look. I guess I was spoiled by the amazing acrobatic at anma that I found myself only partially hard. Kinda disappointed but I would return again next trip just because I'm a sucker for looks.

This trip is still very fun as I ended up with two anma experiences and one 2nd course from room salon. Next trip will be in June. I will plan things out better this time as this last trip was decided less than 8 hours prior to my flight.

So went to the HAHA Ho Ho show.

We got there towards the end. Best go around 8:30 to see the whole show.

We only saw 2 strippers as there were other misc acts in between. The first stripper was quite nice and walked around the crowd and for 10,000 extra she would lap dance which was like for 10 secs. In hindsight, not worth it. Then we saw some other acts.

I swear the last act is just to get you the fuck out of there. A friggen man dressed as a woman with a severely fucked up face.

All up cost 40k. I could have got blown on the hill for that much.

Doubt I will go again

Hi fellows,
this is my first time in Korea and I had to fly in on short notice, so no time to prepare. I am just now sitting in my room at the Ritz Carlton trying to identify a good FS Massage place to go. However the information in this forum is quite cryptic, maybe due to the recent crackdowns?
So anyways, if somebody can send me some information about good FS Massage places to go I would be very thankful.
I need sufficient information to tell the taxidriver the way, and they should be welcoming foreigners as well.
Thanks in advance,
Hitman (before Jackson converted my Name into C3PO or so.....)

I'm going over to Seoul for a month on the 27th and would like to look up your friend. I've been going there for 15 years for 5 weeks each year and have done the massage trips, bar girls, etc and now I'm always open to dates that my Korean friends set up. Anyway, if you've got a name and number, I'd love to call her to see if she's up for a date some evening. I know Seoul well and get all over the city. I'm there or business and my nights are open.

Thanks for the reply.

A girl friend here recently called me a "Pyeong gong sa" after I woke her up at 3am for more. She says it means that I'm a guy who likes sex a great deal (very true btw). Just curious if this is a compliment or a slight?

My report of my first night out in Seoul.

I went to Hookers Hill at Itaewon. First the location: take Metro line 6 to Itaewon station. Exit 3, walk down the street and pass Bellagio. Take a right and you are there. First club you see is Rio at your left hand.

I went to 3 different bars. The system is the same. Your drink is 4.000 Won (USD 4). For the girls drink two possibilities 10.000 Won or 20.000 Won. For the latter price you can sit seperate and she starts to touch you and you can touch her. My very nice Korean girl let me touch her tits and pussy, all wet. But Ok to continue another drink for 20.000 (after two drinks of 10.000 at the bar). She gets really horny and takes of my pants and closes the curtains. For fucking on the spot she asks 200.000 Won. That is to much for me so I said that I am only willing to pay another 50.000. She agrees to do BBBJ for this and starts a delicious sucking. This turns her really on and she jumps on me. Before I know she comes twice while tong kissing me. Then it is my turn, we do it doggy style. Quite bizarre, just a curtain between you and the rest of the bar !

But actually this is what I like and I have no problem to come.Fantastic. So total costs for the girl including drinks is 110.000 (110 USD). Probably a bit expensive, but for me no regret because it was a terrific experience with a very nice and sexy girl. Name of this bar was private cabins (at the end of the hill left) and her name is Mimi.

My tip: be clear want you want. Ask prices before. If you explain what you want, for example only to drink a beer the girls will just make fun and not hassle you.

Funny is that I saw at least three times military police come in to check if any american soldiers inside. Poor guys !

Hey everyone,

Since the forum moved addressed I haven't posted anything, so here's my inaugural post, and I think it will be helpful as there doesn't seem to be a lot of info here on outcall in Seoul - so on with my experiences.

I travel extensively to Seoul, and when I do travel, I really don't have the energy of going out to "get some", hence the reliance on outcalls (in HKG I rely on ****** and best161 - wish there was something like this in Seoul- sight).

So, I have been trolling the ads that you find in the Korean Times and Joon Ang Daily (included in Herald Tribune) and have tried a few places. Prices are pretty standard: 100,000 Won for 1 hour massage only, 150,000 Won for 1 hour massage and 30 mins "extra". Basic 1-shot rule applies as far as I can see.

Report 1:
There is one service called "Rose Massage" or something like that that quoted 200,000 Won for 1 hour - I tried iit thinking it might be higher quality - well, let me tell you, just avoid it like the plague - horrendous service, butt ugly girl, couldn't wait for her to leave. So don't do it.

Report 2:
This has become my favorite place - can't remember name but phone number looks like 016-743-8***. Always same man who answers the phone, good English. All of his girls do this as part time (most stories he indicates hold up with girls I talk to). Have seen three girls - I'll describe them all, and name one.

Girl #1: First time I used the service, this was an "office girl" (don't remember name), did good massage for one hour, but didn't smile much. After one hour did the standard BJ (covered) - no kissing, standard positions. Not great, but not that bad.

Girl #2: Miyun (pronoucned Mee-Yun I think). During the day is an ICU nurse (I know a bit about pharma and it really sounds as this is the real deal). Early 30's I would say, though guy says early 20's, that's crap because she says she's been nursing 7+ years. Best massage of the lot, after which I offered to give her a massage, which she gladly accepted, which led to a much more GFE-like session - DFK, an EXCELLENT BBBJ, flawless. Then cover on and standard positions. Saw her twice and would have kept on seeing only her if only on the one night she been unavailable that I saw the ultimate.

Girl #3: Will not name her, nor tell you what she does for a living, I want to be a bit possessive with her. Saw her 3 times in the matter of 8 days. Oh my God. About 25 years old, very shy, very demure (bowing saying Kom Sam Hamidah and all that all the time), massage is really not that good (I pass on it now), but it's amazing what I have unlocked.

First meeting with Girl #3 was the standard massage, then I offered to massage her, which led to a VERY GFE session. BBBJ, DATY, 69, the works. She amazingly tight and the sex was amazing. She was screaming and creaming during DATY, it was great.

Second meeting I can only describe as the most surprising session with an SP ever. Start with her massaging me, then reverse roles. Get into a bit, soon I've got her on her back with her legs up by her ears and I'm eating her out from hole to hole like there's no tomorrow - she's going nuts. She then proceeds to BBBJ (9.6/10 - not quite like Girl #2 but very close).

After a while (don't want to finish fun yet) I turn her over onto her side and siddle up beside her and start teasing her from one hole to the other with my fingers. After 5 minutes, start inserting a finger - she gasps but asks me to continue (!?!). Then, on her own volition, takes some of the aromatherapy oil and puts it onto my finger so I can insert it easier. At this point I am going over the edge. I start slowly and get her "used" to this for a while. I'm getting really hard now and start prodding her back with my dick.

For kicks I start saying "so you want this, eh?", and she starts murmuring yes. OMG. She takes the oil again, and starts smearing it on my dick. I think to myself, "this can't be happening, can it". BBBDA*? I think 5 seconds about whether I should cover up (probably should have), but figured that it took some work to get her so risk, although not 0 (never is), is relatively low. So I start having my way with her up her ass, and what a tight little hole it was. Went on for ~10 minutes and came right up her ass. Wow, what a feeling.

She leaves me with a huge smile on my face.

So don't go anywhere, there's some more (not too much though).

The following night I saw her for the third time. This time, I just dispensed with the massage and had her come straight to bed with me. This was much more relaxed, kissing, cuddliing, fondling. Then a nice BBBJ with CIM (she went to spit - my next challenge is to get her to swallow - will report back if I get there).

After that, we hung out in bed, and then went for a round of sex in various positions (didn't want to do A again, didn't want to seem to pushy, investing in her for long haul). Quite frankly, she got so hot, and my dick was so close to her pussy 2-3 times, I think she'd let me go commando if I wanted, but will not do this, and will keep on asking for condom. I want this girl for me. She hasn't offered me her direct number so I can cut out middle-man and have her stay overnight, but I'm hopefully that i can get there.

So - I spent a lot describing this report about someone I hope you guys won't see - but I hope you enjoy the journey 1% of how much I enjoyed it.

If there's anyone in Seoul with other good info on outcalls, please PM me, if it's REALLY good info I'll fill you in on the identify of Girl #3.

Take care everyone

James B

* Bare Back Back Door Action - New acronym, haven't seen it before.

Bungy Jim,

Nice story, but don't gloat! The Military Police are not only looking for GIs, they're also looking for (signs of) prostitution and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908][CodeWord908][/url]. The MPs also have direct links to the KNP who can arrest you because prostitution is illegal in Korean and even though enforcement is selectively carried out.


[QUOTE=Bungy Jim]My report of my first night out in Seoul.

Funny is that I saw at least three times military police come in to check if any american soldiers inside. Poor guys ![/QUOTE]

Hey guys, it's been a while. I haven't been out in a long time. It's been over six months I'd say. Anyway, my Japanese friend has been living in Seoul for the past year and he's moving back to Japan on Saturday.

This Friday, he wants to hook up. Now, I don't know what's up. It seems like people can still get in trouble going into the RLD's, so I was wondering what some of you current players are doing.

Has anyone been to Jangan-Dong lately? How is it there now?

Basically, we're cool with anything that's safe (no cops) and relatively easy on the wallet (no room salons, etc.). Thanks guys for the info.!

I promise I'll start putting up more info. when I start getting in on the action again.

As for Jang-Ahn-Dong, it's seems completely safe, as we went on Saturday night and the place was just filled with groups of business men and even soldiers. Not a single cop was in sight and everything was legit.

Went to a place called Walker Hill, a neon green sign, 5th floor establishment, located about 40 yards from the subway station exiting from the GS convenient store (might have been Family Mart).

Always a good experience there. I'm sure all the fellow mongers here know what to expect there so no need to explain myself.

As for my girl, she was a bit older, I presume upper 20's, but had a great pair of tits and nice legs (I'm a leg man guys). She seemed very warm and since she knew I was younger, she kept grabbing my dick and squeezing it like if it was one of those tension reliever moosh balls to relieve stress. Kind of the kinky type I suppose.

My only complaint about Jang-Ahn-Dong is that whenever you start to fuck, these women always moan to the point that it seems like they want you to finish immediately but I take that as a sign to just hang in longer and punish the girls.

Total damage will come out to 80,000 KRW (90,000 KRW if using plastic).

Happy Mongering.

Bikerider,

Byun gang sae is the proper spelling and indeed it means that you are very much enjoying sex, have a good size and deliver well. It is indeed slang and is coming from an old Korean fuck-movie.

In the movie the guy's name is Byun gang sae, he moves around Korea and fucks like hell nice and beautiful women. So that's where the slang came from.

Ong nyu is the girl character in the movie, so if you want to say something back to her, say Ong nyu. This means the same as Byun gang sae but referring to a female who likes sex very much. She will appreciate you knowing the background and coming with a proper answer :o)

I learnt all this from my Korean girlfriend so don't think I am so Korea-educated :o)

Thrillseeker

I am in Seoul again this week, so went mongering on Tuesday night.

I returned to my last discovery : Paradise Anma. Place was modernized compared to my last report, in evey room you have an elevated wooden floor, not slippery when flooded with water (unlike the previous stone imitation). They also put a special massage seat, which looks like an electrocution chair. This gives room enough for you and for the girl to play while being showered by her. Very nice.

They also adapted the feature from Chinese Massage Parlors : a rack on the ceiling which can be used by the girl hang upside-down and give you a blow-job in this position. Also can be used to hold herself while riding you in the special massage chair. So all in all big imporvements on the interior front.

The girls are completely new, I did not see any of the ones I have been with.

Hyang Gy (means good scent in Korean). She was the first Korean girl who I would dare to call busty. Very nice tits, they could not fit in my palm eventhough I am not a small guy. Nice attitude during the session, though did not do the upside-down blow job but she gave a superb massage.

Then she wanted to hop on me, but I suggested reversing roles, so I massaged her, then went to DATY. This had a phenomenal effect, as she came in 5 minutes (maybe fake but looked real). Then she started to DFK me as soon as she calmed down, licked my balls and my ass. I put on cover and fucked her for a good 30 minutes. I ended up in her mouth getting me satisfied for the day.

My Korean friend took I-seul (means dew), he was also very satisfied.

There is a slight price increase : they told me that there is an increase of foreigner customers since January (maybe other ppl went there based on my previous posts) so they increased the price to 200.000 KRW for foreigners. Koreans still pay 180.000 KRW. I was also informed that they do not do the special 2-girl scheme during night time but to increase customer's during daytime they do. So if you go there before 18:00 say : 2 dea 1 (pronounce : E DAY IL). They will understand...

So all in all Paradise is still highly recommended, 2 hours of fun and quality time.

Ofcourse one place is not good place so I went yesterday to FROG ANMA. This is highly rated amongst Koreans so my friend told me to give it a try... So why not. The place was very easy to find, I met my friend there and went by taxi. I hopped in a taxi at Seoul Station and went to RAMADA SEOUL HOTEL (Samsung Dong if the driver does not know).

Now if you stand at the exit of the hotel (like as if you've just come out of it) you walk to the right side of the hotel and stop there. Right in front of you on the opposite site of the street is a Familiy Mart. Cross the street and walk towards the Family Mart and enter the street ahead of you (on the left side of Familiy Mart). If go forward you will see a restaurant logo facing you : THE PLATE. Before you reach this logo turn right. There is a small cube like entrance, color is green. The sure way to recognize it is that it has small windows with plants and flowers in it. If you can read Korean the ANMA sign is also on top of it in RED. The Korean name Gae Gu Ri Anma.

So once in they quote the same 200.000 for you as a foreigner. For this you you get a blind massage, use the sauna and spa the get a nice fuck in the end. The good thing is that you can also sleep there. So you can save your hotel costs. If you wanna sleep there better make a booking in advance, coz over the weekend it is quite crowded. So I like to think about it as a wellness hotel :)

I was there for a good 4 hours, blind massage, spa, sauna then I asked for a girl. I don't know what is happening in Korea but I again got a busty babe with firm tits. We went down to the room. It is almost the exact replica of Paradise for the interior but from higher class materials. Additionally the shower is just above the massage chair so not on a hose like in Paradise.

The girls was 25 and reminded me to Lucy Liu, very sexy. She spoke medium English so I told her to skip the massaging part as I had it from the blind chick already, so she got down to business. She sat me down in the massage chair and sat on my lap and started to stroke my member with her trimmed(!) pussy. Wow. I got hard. She continued to a nice blowjob and before I knew myself I ended up in her mouth.

I said okay, that's it, I blew 200K. But no.... She did not let me rest, washed my member and started massaging it again. In good 10 mins time I was hard again and she rode me in cowgirl style using the ceiling racks to lift herself up and down. Very nice experience. I asked her sit on me in reverse cowgirl and that's how I came while holding her firm breasts.

So after 4 good hours of sex I left the place. There is one thing you have to pay attention to : do not arrive after darkness as they do not want the Korean customers to see the foreigners using the facility. This strange prejudice comes from the fact that Korean men think that all western ppl spread STD-s and are affraid of fucking girls who had been with foreigners. Funny but true as per my friend's info.

So simply come earlier then you should have no problem as all Koreans monger after 20:00 or so...

All the best

Thrillseeker

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]As for Jang-Ahn-Dong, it's seems completely safe,.[/QUOTE]After a break of 3 years, I'll be in Seoul next week.

Can you pls enlighten me where is this J-A-D? Any subwaystation?

And then, is it similar to the old Myari or similar places?

Thanks,

Thrill seeker do you remember the name of the girl you had at Frog anma?

Some Lucy Liu action would be nice.

Okay, I'm back from Jangan-Dong.

I went to the same place I went to last July. I asked for the same girl (knowing there was a 90% chance she wouldn't be there), and guess what? She wasn't working there anymore.

I went with my Japanese friend since he's leaving the country on Saturday.

We went in, paid 80K each. We got booths next to each other.

My friend is really picky, and he didn't like the first girl. So they sent in someone else. He didn't like her either. So they sent in a 3rd girl. He didn't like her either and wanted to change again, but the manager I guess gave him a scary look and my friend said, "alright, fine, I'll take the third." From what I could see, she was tall (184cm, about 5'8.5"), thin, and looked cute.

I went with my first one. She was pretty, short hair, not tall, not short. Average body. I didn't care, I was there to get my friend laid.

So, same as last time, I change into shorts, get some facial, massage, etc. Then I'm led into a private room somewhere. There's a shower room, I lay there, and I get another massage, showering, brushing my teeth, etc.

Then onto the bed, a full body lick, rim job. BBBJ, then with ice, then mouth wash, then it magically turns into a CBJ. Then onto the sex. For some reason I couldn't get off, so I had her use her hand on me. I came and felt something warm on my arm. I shot onto my arm.

Anyway, had a cigarette and an energy drink afterwards. I gave her a 10K tip, even though she didn't ask.

My friend was already waiting for me when I got out. He finishes fast I guess (he had started later than I did, due to his 'pickiness').

Overall, another decent experience.

The funniest thing though, is that when we were in the booths next to each other, he kept calling out to me and saying silly things. He was cracking me up. His Korean is good, but he just has a funny Osaka accent, so it was the funniest thing. I guess you had to be there.

BTW, to get there, exit Jang-han-pyeong station. I'm not sure which line, but I believe it's the purple line. I know that you go out of exit #2, keep walking a little bit, walk past the alley, then you'll come across a pojang macha type place on your left. It's more of a restaurant/store, but whatever. As soon as you pass it, there's the hyu-ge-tel right there. I believe it's part of the same buliding as the pojang macha. It's down in the basement. I didn't catch the name of the place, although I believe it might be "Hyu-Ge-Land"... written in the Korean script, of course. Perhaps, 휴게랜드.

I believe it was just about right across the street from the GS25 market. I don't know if they accept foreigners (other than Japanese, and maybe Chinese), but it doesn't seem likely.

PS: The one thing different about this experience than the last time was that this time the rimming lasted a lot longer. However, the milk bath, where the girl pours milk on your and herself and 'floats' around on you did not happen. It didn't happen for my friend either. I guess they stopped this service. Or maybe they just didn't like us. Who knows.

That's all for this report.

Took an afternoon walk up the Hill (same story) and ended up in Fantasy Bar with Mya, still one of the better bargains anywhere in the world. Not too many places offering Full Course Meal for W40,000.00 these days, if you can get past that dog (I remember when it was a puppy) she has coming around, and her moods, although I've come a long way from the days when I couldn't even enter her club to now having her digits. The other two bars across from her's were hopping with other girls, will probably check them out later.

Nice to see people posting on this thread these days, hey where is Chopper Pilot?

It's good to hear that Mi Ah is still around. Everytime I go by the door is locked or she's "busy!" Someday I will get around to trying her out.

I did a quick cruise of the Hill last night but found life boring around there. Will make another trip Sunday evening. Any fellow mongers plan on being out and about Sunday?

I swear there were 2 LB's at Ambrosia's last night? any thoughts on that? If so, I will stay away from there for sure.

You know how these “first time” visits sometimes start. 1 day lead time no way to prepare, everything happening in a rush.
This is exactly how my first trip to Seoul started around 2 weeks ago. After checking in at the Ritz Carlton Hotel, I connected the laptop and checked out the forum. To my surprise I found out that almost every other word used was “crackdown”. Sure – crackdowns happen everywhere, what should be different here? Despite my best efforts, I couldn’t retrieve any useful information precise enough to locate an address I could hand to a taxi driver. Time ran out as my colleagues waited downstairs in the lobby to bring me to the office. I decided to send some PMs to senior Member in the Seoul forum hoping to get some useful information the same day.

I returned back to the hotel around 10 pm and check my PMs: Hurray! 2 PMs, both from the same author, proposed a sauna place at the Hamilton Hotel in Itaewon. The price estimation was 200.000 Won. No time to loose I rushed out of my room, counting my cash in the elevator. Unfortunately I had only around 160.000 left so I decided to get extra cash at the ATM. First surprise there – the ATM gets shut down at 9.30 pm. I asked the Concierge about the next closest ATM. He called the Hotel next door but they had their ATM also switched off. Luckily I saw a Bank sign just across the street and tried there. They would not accept my card. I started to get somewhat nervous as nobody in the hotel would be able to give me an alternative. So I started to walk along the roads around the hotel to find a functioning ATM. It took me almost an hour until I finally found one that worked, inside a Metro station. Out of the station – into the next available Cab.

Amazingly there were crowds of drunken Koreans on the street – very interesting impression. The Cab driver knew the place and took off. We crossed a river and went up a hill then he dropped me off in front of the Hamilton Hotel. Interesting enough, there was a police station just across the street from the hotel and many police cars were driving around this area. Whatever….. just right hand side from the hotel’s entrance door I saw the Massage sign saying “only foreigners” – now that sounded just like the place I was looking for. The reception guy offered a menu card, with the most expensive type of massage being 120.000 Won. I told him I wanted the 200.000 Won Massage but he said there is no such massage. There was one Indian guy there, obviously also a potential customer who indicated that the place would not offer such kind of services anymore.

Frustrated as hell I left the place. I started to walk down the road a bit when I heard steps approaching me from behind – the Indian guy. He stopped me and explained that the recent crackdown had changed everything and it would be hard to find what I was looking for. He suggested to take a Black Taxi (because they speak English) and ask the driver for a massage place where “Special massages” are offered. I took me almost another 20 minutes until I found an available black cab and did as the guy suggested. The driver thought about my request for 30 seconds and asked me whether the “Gangnam” district would be okay – I almost laughed out loud, as this was where my hotel was located. So off we went and the driver dropped me off a tiny little side street with a lot of interesting places.

Several Hotels or Motels with car ports where the entrance was covered by some sort of blinds to avoid people walking by can actually see the faces of the person standing inside. You would only be able to see the legs of the people inside. The taxi driver dropped me off at a massage place with a similar setup. I entered the place and was asked to change shoes. By that time it was already past midnight but I would get what I wanted in just a couple of more minutes – at least I thought I would……

After 2 minutes of waiting the reception lady started to point at the clock on the wall. She obviously tried to tell me that I would have to wait some more time. When asking how much more time, she told me maybe around 30 minutes. I had no plans to wait that long and left the place – frustration level 2.
Back on the street I decided to check out the area in more detail. First thing that showed me I was a t the right place was tons of address cards with photos of girls where lying on the ground. My mood got somewhat better and I saw that 2-3 girls where standing around as if they would wait for somebody. As I watched one of the girls, a guy came walking out behind the blind of a car park spoke to her and they disappeared inside the car park.

Another one was there all on her own playing with her mobile phone. In Shanghai where I live, this is a very typical behavior for semi professionals. The moment I started to walk her direction, a guy walked over from the other side of the street and they disappeared in one of the car parks. Damned - frustration level 3.

I decided to check out one building at the end of that small street. It had some of these rotating white red and blue columns in front, and I remembered that the Indian guy had mentioned them as an indication for action – “the more columns rotate the more you can get”. I entered the building and something seemed to be going on down in the basement. I walked down the stairs and opened one of the doors - nobody there. I opened the other one where a girl was looking at me with no indication to invite me in. So I decided to leave and walked back to the place the taxi had dropped me off. When I entered they still indicated I would have to wait, this time until 1.30 am.

I thought it might be best to just call it a night and leave back to the hotel, then decided to give it one more try at one of the “car park places”. A friendly guy cam out of his little cabin and asked me in. We walked upstairs to a reception area and the girls there seemed to be very nice and friendly also to foreigners. I said I was looking for a special massage and they quoted 220.000 Won. I gave them the money and the led me upstairs on more level into a room with a massage bed, a side board with microwave and all kinds of utensils and a bathroom with toilet, whirlpool shower and an inflatable mattress.

The girl that entered the room 5 minutes later was just what I was looking for, petite nice ass and nice firm boobs. Looking at the time it was already 1.30 and she did not look very enthusiastic. I barely got a smile from her. She asked me to undress and lay down on the bed. After I did, she applied some kind of facial mask, which I found kind of funny – never happened before. Meanwhile she filled the bathtub with water. After removing the mask, she asked me to turn over and she stated to massage my back – not a really great massage. She then asked me follow her into the bathroom where she showered me and made me sit down inside the bathtub where she joined me. She started some rubbing and some minutes of BBBJ – nothing spectacular. When I just started to feel a bit more comfortable she asked me to get out of the bathtub again and onto the mattress. There she did all kind of body rubbing with lots of soap and foam – kind of nice but also too rushed. After one more shower, we finally ended up back on the bed where she practiced some fire & ice and got on top of me. She realized that I wasn’t about to come as fast as she obviously hoped, she asked to change positions and get on top of her. After I shot my load, she cleaned me and asked me to dress again. The entire business was way too rushed and lasted all together around 80 minutes.

I left the same morning back to China. Next time I really want to be better prepared. So if any of you can shed some light on the scene, please PM me with Details.

Judt back in K-land - but outside Seoul.

Does anyone know if the "New Age" Massage is still available at Kim's Massage, Itaewon? (Across the street from Outback Steakhouse, if I remember...)

That massage is still available, but you have to ask for it because it's no longer written on the menu. It appears that only one girl (Jean-I think her name is) gives this massage, at least that's what the receptionist told me the last time I was there.

The girl in Frog Anma who looks like Lucy Liu is called Jade. I don't know her Korean name she did not say. But the receptionist was also referring to her as Jade it should be no problem to find her under this alias.

Happy Mongering

Thrillseeker

Been to Yeoido a few times. Still haven't figured out which places to go. Can anyone PM me and give me some insight?

Anyone tried to meet university students (non pros) or pros over the Net? Which sites can you recommend? I heard it's possible to arrange one-nighters for 150,000 - 300,000.

Also, any suggstions on where to go to pick up non pros in Seoul (no Itaewon/HongiK please)

Thanks for the info

PS: avoid Ga-Young at 'Friends', annoying chick.

Seems like the more popular dating websites are as follows:

1) [url]www.koreanfriendfinder.com[/url]
2) [url]www.ublove.com[/url]

This sites are obviously more orientated for the local Koreans interested in possibly meeting with foreign men, as their intros are usually written in English.

As for students, we all love fresh, untainted pussy but the more obvious areas would be around the Sinchon, Sillim and any university areas where students infest the areas. Dance clubs are usually the places to meet non-pros and if your Korean is very good, then you need to go booking and do the night club thing.

Wish you luck! As far as my experience goes, getting the non-pros takes several tries and copious amounts of alcohol for both parties.

DH

For my money, I reckon that Annie gives the best BJ in Itaewon. She now works at Ambrosia.

Lifers may remember her as the good-looking chick at ABC who used to wear dead sexy horn-rimmed glasses.

Unfortunately she doesn't need the glasses anymore thanks, or perhaps no thanks, to laser surgery but I have encouraged her to put in plain lenses and wear them nonetheless. Goddamn, those glasses were hot. That sexy librarian look used to drive me up the wall.

The trannies are gone from Ambrosia and she now works there alone.

Runn Mann

Thanks alot. I shall try it out upon my first trip to Itaewon and report.

Seems I missed the crackdown and the whole furore over the "student molestation" scandal while I was away!

Let me kill some fantasies for middle agers+ coming to Seoul looking to pick up some 20 year old in a miniskirt and kneesocks:

Seoul isn't the sticks of China. Seoul is the capital of one of the world's top economies. In short, women aren't looking for a meal ticket out of here, especially the ones who speak english. They're middle classed and have good career opportunities. You have to ask yourself, "what luck do I have with college girls back at home?" Those are your odds here.

If you want to meet university aged women, much like back at home, you pretty much got to be in your 20s yourself. The chances your visiting middle ager can plunk himself down in one of the university club districts and score a "freebie" is probably slim to none. If you're in good shape and stylish, your odds increase. If your wardrobe is limited to wearing khaki pants and a vendor supplied golf shirt and you got a beer gut, well, best of luck :)

Young Korean women are generally about getting an Mrs and paying their parents back for massive educational costs by settling down with a nice Korean jr executive and producing sons. They've got a few short years to do it and most aren't interested in flings with older foreigners.

Assuming there's some kind of underground pay for play industry over the net, most are probably Korean only speakers and are looking for Korean men. AIDs is a huge fear here. And there's a huge market of Korean men willing to pay for play.

Can you guys help me out.

I will be in Seoul next week and I do not know where to go.

I will be staying at Westin in Seoul.

I need some Korean Pussy. Can someone help?

Thanks

Okey Guy,

You sure have a lot of posts asking for information, read the Forum Guy. Information is out there, you just have do a little work by reading, there's over 140 pages of info in this thread, granted some of it garbage, but information is available if you read.

[QUOTE=Okey Guy]Can you guys help me out.

I will be in Seoul next week and I do not know where to go.

I will be staying at Westin in Seoul.

I need some Korean Pussy. Can someone help?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

I will be traveling to Seoul on Sunday afternoon from Germany. I'll be there for 6 months working as an advisor for a very big car company.

Can anyone give me a tipp or two? I will be in the Prima Hotel. How is it there? Anyone been there?

Greets Tim

Okey Guy,

Thanks for the PM and not to put you on display, but for the benefit of the board so these questions are repeated later (right), what specifically are you looking for? what price range? some people want to get laid for under W50,000. and some don't mind paying W200,000 and more, price range, type of girls, quality of girls massage services, university students, RLDs, are all factors, if you are a little more specific in what you want, I can probably lead you in the right direction.

In the meantime if you want a cheap, quick lay go to the hill in Itaewon, or go to Kim's massage in Iteawon and use her OUTCALL services ($$ pricey) if you want young quality girls to come to you. Check out the back of any of the local english version of the newspapers (Korea Times/Herald) for outcall massage with FS option.

Oh! At the end of your sessions share your experiences with the board, don't hold back. :)

This story may turn out to be a smack in the face of Cute Guy's post about Korean women being well off and aren't looking for a meal ticket out of here.


[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Let me kill some fantasies for middle agers+ coming to Seoul looking to pick up some 20 year old in a miniskirt and kneesocks:

Seoul isn't the sticks of China. Seoul is the capital of one of the world's top economies. In short, women aren't looking for a meal ticket out of here, especially the ones who speak english. They're middle classed and have good career opportunities. [/QUOTE]


US Club owner arrested in Korean trafficking, prostitution case

By Bill Miller and agencies
May 3, 2005

Dallas - A Texas businessman faces federal charges of harboring seven Korean women who, according to federal agents, were illegally brought to the United States to work as party hostesses in his Dallas karaoke club.

(Name Removed), 39, of Coppell, was released on his own recognizance during a preliminary hearing Wednesday before U.S. Magistrate Irma C. Ramirez in Dallas. He was arrested early Tuesday at his home during a raid by 20 federal agents, including a heavily armed tactical team.

Special Agent David Popp of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement testified that agents believe (name removed) worked with an "international alien smuggling ring" to recruit Korean hostesses for his business, the WA Club.

(name removed), a Korean-American, declined to answer questions from reporters as he rushed from the courthouse. A federal grand jury will decide whether there is enough evidence to bring the case to trial.

"I think the truth will come out," said his lawyer, William Bratton of Dallas. "I think it's a complicated case for the government to prove."

Bratton said (name removed) came to the United States in 1986 and became a naturalized citizen last year. He described his client as a legitimate businessman with a wife and child, whose livelihood is rattled by media attention on the case.

Especially harmful, he said, are inferences that He was running a sex slave ring.

But Sarah Saldana, a federal prosecutor, noted that (name removed) doesn't face any charges relating to prostitution.

"This case concerns the concealing and harboring of illegal aliens," she said. "It has nothing to do with the purpose that these women were brought here."

Concerns about prostitution, however, were what started the investigation.

According to Popp, his neighbors complained to police last year that women were constantly coming and going at night from (name removed)'s home in Coppell, northwest of Dallas.

Popp said vice detectives notified his office, which investigates human smuggling cases. Meanwhile, he said, one of the women escaped from name removed's home by jumping out of a second-story window.

He said she fled to a Korean minister who referred her to law enforcement officers. Popp said she later told him that the women worked at (name removed)'s club to pay the fees charged by the smugglers, about $12,000.

Popp said the woman reported that she was never forced to have sex with any of the Korean businessmen who came to the club, but some of the other women "chose to do so to pay off their debts quicker."

What's the deal with Friends (Soongsil) these days? I'm not sure, but am under the impression that they do not want foreigners there anymore. Are you still getting regular service there without any hassles?

[QUOTE=Run Mann]This story may turn out to be a smack in the face of Cute Guy's post about Korean women being well off and aren't looking for a meal ticket out of here.

US Club owner arrested in Korean trafficking, prostitution case.[/QUOTE]I'm not talking about all Korean women. Any society will have poor women who will turn to prostitution. And there are certainly women who ran up huge credit card debts and have had to turn to the sex industry to pay them off.

I'm talking about Korean women who speak English and the fantasy that they're willing to jump on anything white. I'm assuming if you're looking for a freebie in a bar with a 20something woman, your Korean skills are slim to none. Hence, you're hitting on the subset of Korean women who speak English. And that subset comes from a middle/upper class family and her expectations are quite different. She's not looking for an older foreign meal ticket like a Filipina might be. If she's in her 20s and she's looking for a foreigner, she'll probably go after a 20something Marine or a ESL teacher type.

If you're an older business man here, you're up against a lot of competition, including young Korean men who have no inhibitions about the most over the top displays of romantic attention and are willing to drop huge amounts of money on the object of their affection. If she's looking for a guy to show her a good time (measured by the amount of won spent on a date), it's not too hard for her to find local, moneyed Korean talent.

You certainly didn't say that in your original report, really this just appears to be your opinion, you presented no facts or data to back up what you're saying, it's an opinion and that's how your piece should have been presented. There's lots of assumption in your story, how do you know the women in the news story don't speak English? And what does speaking English have to do with being middle class, from my experience, it appears that most Koreans have some concept of the English language and they learn it in school too. The literacy rate in Korea is 93 to 97 percent depending on whose statistics you use, so even the lower class citizen have the learning ability, it has nothing to do with being middle class.

Using logic from your story, women in the USA are well off because its a wealthy country, but we all know too well that there are millions of Americans living in poverty so what make you think that because Korea is a top economic country that the citizens are doing well. And if they are doing so well, why is my masseuse a 22-yr. university student working out call? I never asked but maybe I will ask her next time what motivates her to do what she does if she has such good career opportunities. If you saw her on the street you would never believe what she does on the side.

Travel to NYC and visit some of the Massage Palors in Manhattan and ask your self why are there so many young Koreans (including other Asian races) working there.

Unless you go out and conduct a scientific survey and have data and FACTS to back up your claim, your story has little or no value because it’s not base on any quantifiable data, its your opinion, and that's ok if you say so. Presenting a story the way you did would make one believe you made your claim base on something other than your opinion or experience. There are no absolutes in the world, anything is possible. People are not adjuncts of each other; they can't be classified as a lockstep group because they all have different motivations. Some women like old men, some like fat men, some like skinny, they’re all different, different things motivates different people, I don’t know what the fat guy’s chances are with a Korean chick but the
percentage may not as be as low you seem to think.

If you think that its so hard for the overweight ball guy from the USA to get connected, I invite you to go to Yongsan Army Garrison and conduct a survey with the many civilian contractors working over here. Ask them how, where and with whom they go to bed with at night. You may be surprise, at the end of the day unless you see it, you’ll never know what people are doing in private, no matter how they may present themselves to you in public.



[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]I'm not talking about all Korean women. Any society will have poor women who will turn to prostitution. And there are certainly women who ran up huge credit card debts and have had to turn to the sex industry to pay them off.

I'm talking about Korean women who speak English and the fantasy that they're willing to jump on anything white. I'm assuming if you're looking for a freebie in a bar with a 20something woman, your Korean skills are slim to none. Hence, you're hitting on the subset of Korean women who speak English. And that subset comes from a middle/upper class family and her expectations are quite different. She's not looking for an older foreign meal ticket like a Filipina might be. If she's in her 20s and she's looking for a foreigner, she'll probably go after a 20something Marine or a ESL teacher type.

If you're an older business man here, you're up against a lot of competition, including young Korean men who have no inhibitions about the most over the top displays of romantic attention and are willing to drop huge amounts of money on the object of their affection. If she's looking for a guy to show her a good time (measured by the amount of won spent on a date), it's not too hard for her to find local, moneyed Korean talent.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann]You certainly didn't say that in your original report, really this just appears to be your opinion, you presented no facts or data to back up what you're saying, it's an opinion and that's how your piece should have been presented.[/QUOTE]Of course it's opinion. I live here. I've dated Korean women. I talk to them. I'm just offering my observations and what these women have told me. If you're 50 and looking for a 23 year old Korean woman who is fluent in English, you can't think of them as being like a 23 year old thai woman or flipina. My educated opinion is your best chance is pay for play if you're not young, in shape, or stylish. Your ability to pick up a young lovely for a freebie is slim to none.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]And what does speaking English have to do with being middle class, from my experience, it appears that most Koreans have some concept of the English language and they learn it in school too. [/QUOTE]Koreans learn English in school but the English educaiton is generally a pitful joke. The only people who can really learn to speak it are those who come from middle classed families who can afford to send them to private night schools.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]The literacy rate in Korea is 93 to 97 percent depending on whose statistics you use, so even the lower class citizen have the learning ability, it has nothing to do with being middle class.[/QUOTE]Koreans have a 97% Korean literacy. Sure. But I'm not sure how this is evidence they're fluent in English. Again, we come back to the unavoidable fact that women who speak English in Korea (beyond some basic words) are middle and upper classed. As a culture, these young women are consumed with the idea they have to pay their parents back and the way they do it is marrying a Korean man. They're really, really not out scoping the scene for a middle aged white man.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]If you think that its so hard for the overweight ball guy from the USA to get connected, I invite you to go to Yongsan Army Garrison and conduct a survey with the many civilian contractors working over here. Ask them how, where and with whom they go to bed with at night. You may be surprise, at the end of the day unless you see it, you’ll never know what people are doing in private, no matter how they may present themselves to you in public[/QUOTE]I see lots of them. And they're not exactly being mobbed by young lovelies in the bars. Given the lack of women on their arms, they're a pretty lonely looking bunch.

Hey, don't believe me. Come to Korea. Spend your time and money in the university districts trolling for a freebie from some young lovely or plunking yourself down in Starbucks in Edae waiting for the line to form at your table.

Gentlemen,

I have read conflicting reports on acceptance of foreigners in these areas. I have not visited an RLD in a few years, but I remember one area where the chances for white guys was higher. Maybe it was Miara, but I am not certain. The alleyways were a bit darker if I remember. I think I paid 60k for BBBJ + FS. The girl was only about a 6-7, but the service was pretty good. I visited another two brighter areas where nearly all the girls refused.

What is the current situation? I do not want to pay more than 60-70k ST, but I am looking for better quality than one can find on the "hill". Any suggestions?

Thanks.

OAH

Now all you poor fat guys know that this is just someone running off his mouth about his experience, people don't learn too speak languages only from private schools, that's just utter garbage, there are other ways, chat rooms, internet groups, many organizations offering free English classes are some of the many ways, there's so many insane comments in your story, but saying that only middle and upper class Koreans can learn English, I suppose that all those Koreans working on the many military bases in Korea and speak English are all middle and upper class people working for low to medium wages, yeah right! The many Korean translators that are employed by the U.S Military are all middle classes making the kinda of money they're making. Be for real! The occasional hooker one might meet with better english skills than some native speakers must be upper and middle class too. There are thousands of Korean soldiers know as "KATUSAS" that speak english, granted some better than others and never attended a day of private school (ever spent time with them), they learn it in public school and from being around GIs. I know this from my many years of interacting with them, research and write offer facts to back up your claims if you want to make these types of statements, this will give your piece the creditbility it's lacking. Learning to speak a language is depended on an individual's dedication and commitment to it. Unless you've dated a representative sample of Korean girls and you've obviously not, you shouldn't make blanket statements. You don't and can't speak for a whole race of people, no one can.

I know you don't know the majority of the civilian contractors, if you classified them as lonely and they're not the only ones, these people are living large, check out the Hyatt Hotel on a Friday night, but now I know you're making unfactual statements just to make your point. Because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, even if you don't see these girls out there scooping out men doesn't mean that given the opportunity even from the poor fat slob they won't be receptive. We never know what people will when presented with the opportunity.

You obviously have some slant to this subject and have skewed it to the most extreme, maybe you just don't want the fat guy to succeed, I don't know, but don't believe you've convinced any reasonable thinking person with what you presented here, other than to show some bias on your part. Arguably the most complicated being are females especially in an austere environment as Korea can be, ergo their reaction cannot be predetermined by someone who professes to know what they will do because he dated some of them. If any of you have money to burn, can act the role of a "shinsa", regardless of how you look and you want to take a chance, my advise is to go for it, no one knows how far you will go. This we know more than ever after reading this exchange.



[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Of course it's opinion. I live here. I've dated Korean women. I talk to them. I'm just offering my observations and what these women have told me. If you're 50 and looking for a 23 year old Korean woman who is fluent in English, you can't think of them as being like a 23 year old thai woman or flipina. My educated opinion is your best chance is pay for play if you're not young, in shape, or stylish. Your ability to pick up a young lovely for a freebie is slim to none.

Koreans learn English in school but the English educaiton is generally a pitful joke. The only people who can really learn to speak it are those who come from middle classed families who can afford to send them to private night schools.

Koreans have a 97% Korean literacy. Sure. But I'm not sure how this is evidence they're fluent in English. Again, we come back to the unavoidable fact that women who speak English in Korea (beyond some basic words) are middle and upper classed. As a culture, these young women are consumed with the idea they have to pay their parents back and the way they do it is marrying a Korean man. They're really, really not out scoping the scene for a middle aged white man.

I see lots of them. And they're not exactly being mobbed by young lovelies in the bars. Given the lack of women on their arms, they're a pretty lonely looking bunch.

Hey, don't believe me. Come to Korea. Spend your time and money in the university districts trolling for a freebie from some young lovely or plunking yourself down in Starbucks in Edae waiting for the line to form at your table.[/QUOTE]

I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with the girls at On y Va, Black Penny, or Justin bar in Itaewon, you know the more upscale places in Itaewon. The girls I've seen there are hot. Is it possible to take them out? How much?

I must add I've been a regular up the hill for a while now. Miya at the Fantasy bar is always around for an afternoon romp and is well experienced at giving a nice sloppy blow job followed by a good fucking. She's worth visiting a few times because she puts out even more. I had one of the best experiences the other nite at paradise club with this girl about 7 face, 8 body. It was late so i think she was pretty loaded up on booze and right away she grabbed me and led me inside, locking the door as she closed it. i was following my little head so as soon as she showed me some tits and grabbed my cock i could hardly think about shopping around. A hundred g's quickly slipped from my pocket and I was nailing her doggy style next to the bar within a minute. All in all a good time.

*****s are in abundance in Korea, no doubt. Most are from the provinces and less educated. Many leave the country due to the shame of being identified or the idea that they may make more money(lies, especially with the current exchange rate). Their ability to speak english? Well, being ladies of the night is as low as one can get in the Korean heirarchy. Just right below to a standard bar girl (non p4p). I'm just gonna take a guess that their shyness of practicing "brothel" english is nonexistent in comparison to their situation.

Most Koreans are educated in English in the school system early on. Yes, they can read and sometimes write proficiently. But their ability to converse in English is minimal to shutdown mode when approached. I think what CG9k is talking about the Apgu Kgirls whom can converse in somewhat competent English, instead of the "you no have money" vernacular of p4p girls.

If you're a middle aged foreigner with minimal Korean skills "ul ma yo" and aren't able to pickup decent uni poon back home, fuck it. The ones you do "score", most definitely pros or moonlighting. Remember, this is still a country where 90% of the population consider the Korean female with a foreigner a prostitute straight up. Ask the Kgirls, they'll agree with that as well! If you could give a fuck, more power to you, but don't delude yourself.

CG9k is right. Korea is one of the most viscious and aesthetically obsessed nations in the world. It's all about the wad, in your wallet, that shows one's desirablity. Listen, it ain't all shits and giggles on the K front as well. You don't know how many times I've seen absolute troll adjushi's with hyperinflated K pr0n stars to innocent country girls chowing down at the Hyundai food court... Yet that adjushi with a sweaty balding head has got a gaudy ass $10k Rolex and Armani suit while engulfing jajangmyun.

The hot girls that are actually worth some human merit... well line up boys. Matchmaking adjummas are all on their ass with countless suitors whom own a BMW fleet in their garage. Booking clubs are just a laymen's glimpse on the feeding frenzy for the "hope" of legitimate hookups. Of course those too have become bastardized and the ho's have come storming in. No that's not a good thing for p4p. It equates to overinflated won for shit service...

Let me add one final thing. I'll let you guys in on a little "secret". There are TONS of hot 25+ professional women out there. Attorneys, doctors, marketing directors, the list goes on. I've heard countless times that there aren't enough Korean men for them. Here's the thing though... many are waiting for the "big one", the Samsung or multinational execs, etc... Some do hookup with a foreign exec, but their natural preference is Korean, regardless of their English proficiency. In their world, perception IS status in the social heirarchy. Therefore, alot get a bit long in the tooth (29-30) and settle for a Korean 5' nothing prematurely balding minor exec... Its a motherfucking travesty! Korean women? They're as hardcore as they come, whether they be a full blown RLD ho or some hiso Boondang baby.

Don't assume to know the game here. It's no holds barred mma style with barbed wire rings. If you try the western sensitive guy route, expect a rude awakening... If somehow you are able to... fuck'em n dump'em. That's priceless words of wisdom here.

[QUOTE=Jake III]I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with the girls at On y Va, Black Penny, or Justin bar in Itaewon...[/QUOTE]I dated a girl for nearly a year who later went on to work at Onyva. She was nice during the time we dated but turned into the biggest feckin' mercenary once she turned hostess. And the same is true for all those girls. They are merciless.

They are hot and they know it and they will make you pay and pay and pay. You'd better have pretty deep pockets and be willing to stick around until the bar closes in reasonably sober condition if you want to pick up. Be prepared to spend at least W500,000 before any of those girls will even consider leaving with you. And even then there is no guarantee. And no matter what they won't leave until the bar closes -- anywhere from 2am to 5am depending on how busy it is.

You could always go the direct route and ask, "What time do you finish and how much to f*ck you?" but I don't think you will be quoted anything less than the aforementioned W500,000. Probably more. A lot more.

I visited the hill last night. Not really all that. For 120,000 BJ and normal from a good looking girl in the Fantsy Bar. she pulled me in as I walked by. Not bad, it it was not really that great.

Is there anything else out there for the same price or cheaper?

I am in Seoul, Gangnam-gu. Anyone know that area?

I would also be looking for a long term thing, i'll be here 6 months.

Please let me know.

Tim

[QUOTE=Run Mann]People don't learn too speak languages only from private schools, that's just utter garbage, there are other ways, chat rooms, internet groups, many organizations offering free English classes are some of the many ways, there's so many insane comments in your story, but saying that only middle and upper class Koreans can learn English[/QUOTE]Of course there are people that have a talent for language and learn English outside of the expensive private school system. And the public school system, despite itself, can produce some fluent english speakers. But we're talking averages here. There are probably 23 year old english fluent Korean women out there happy to hop into bed with a 50 year old she meets in a bar or Starbucks. But, I wouldn't lay money on it.

All what I'm saying is don't assume there's an abundance of young English speaking Korean women who are waiting for their middle aged white man to swoop into Korea, take them to TGI Fridays and then bang them in their hotel. There's nothing quite sadder than seeing a middle aged man strutting around Seoul thinking he's a sex god because of his white skin. The fluent ones generally come from good families and have very high expectations and Korean society offers her a lot more in terms of career and status than a woman in China or Thailand.

Best of luck in your hunt. And choose what you want to believe. But the white guys who live here generally aren't running around screaming what a paradise of easy, white loving women this land is.

I visited the hill Last night. The Fantasy bar, she pulled me in, she was a 7. small and sweet.

120,000won for BJ and Normal aktion. Was not the best I've had, but it was good.

Is there somewhere closer to me? Gangnam-gu.

Is there something cheaper in the area.

Let me know please. I'll be here a while. Laugh.

Tim

[QUOTE=Mofaka]
Let me add one final thing. I'll let you guys in on a little "secret". There are TONS of hot 25+ professional women out there. Attorneys, doctors, marketing directors, the list goes on. I've heard countless times that there aren't enough Korean men for them. Here's the thing though... many are waiting for the "big one", the Samsung or multinational execs, etc... Some do hookup with a foreign exec, but their natural preference is Korean, regardless of their English proficiency. In their world, perception IS status in the social heirarchy. Therefore, alot get a bit long in the tooth (29-30) and settle for a Korean 5' nothing prematurely balding minor exec... Its a motherfucking travesty! Korean women? They're as hardcore as they come, whether they be a full blown RLD ho or some hiso Boondang baby.
[/QUOTE]

I have to agree with Mofaka here. I'm late 30's and speak basic Korean, and most of my GF's in Seoul have been late 20's early 30's (some married but most single) and professional: TV reporter, IT consultant, business manager. I usually don't have a problem finding them. Although, I have noticed as I approach the big 40 it is becoming more difficult to hook-up. But, that's being offset slightly by being able to speak Korean better. :-)

My impression has been in some cases that they're hooking up with me as a last resort in an attempt to find a husband. In other cases, the girls have been fairly straight up with things "I just want to have fun and a nice time with you". In an example of the former, the girl I picked up on a flight from Osan (she was in business class) this summer became mad at me when I dumped her (she was getting way too sticky as most k-girls do). She said "I went out with you and let my friends see me with you." Her point was not that I look like a hunchback (or perhaps it was), but that she lost face with her friends because she was dating a foreigner.

Don't let it bother you, but know the situation. Just use it as an excuse when you dump them!

since we're still on the "guidebook to humping good kgirls part googleplex", the sheer truth is, it's way the fuck cheaper to go straight p4p than to be a shiny white playa. if one tries to play the prada obsessed hyolee lookalike, you better be pulling in 6 figures at minimum! you need to be banking shitloads while having every korean in your social group aware of it without being crass (if possible at all in korea).

nice boyfriend and nice girlfriend senarios are just as rare for the korean korean couple. foreigner korean couples that don't look like ass? fuggitaboutit. urban fucking legend created by some fob uni grad turned esl guru.

ffs! there's a freaking korean tv show that spoofs this sheer fact! here's the setup. average-hot kgirl brings her new foreign beau to meet with the unsuspecting parents. parents are in silent and utter shock. foreigner throws in some korean skills, anyunghaaaaaaseyoooooo. actually ends up looking like a ******* (and not johnny knoxville sheik neither) to foreigners as well! foreigner takes a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] break. parents shit bricks at their newly dubbed ho daughter. dude comes back and the jig is up! all around laughs, family fun! roflmaowpm! whatever...

quick tangent: all male foreign extras whom volunteer to "act" in dramatizations or any korean tv shows need to be publically bitchslapped, flayed, and basted with iodine. wtf are they thinking?! i wanna be on ktv and be the dumbest representative to my home country! cool dude!

my point from this whole diatribe? if you wanna do the hump n dump with hot legit kgirls in seoul, be invisible. midnight hookups with rich inebriated kgirls speaking gibberish on their "handuhphones" to you will be your microscopic window of opportunity. daytime or public dates hand in hand? go to krungthep or guangzhou, unless you'll take the amazingly mediocre korean female stock. you want the good shit and you're a foreigner 10 degrees short of being ck models? be insanely wealthy. if you're somehow the outlier, you won at life. seriously. of course, you probably wouldn't be reading an mb about p4p worldwide.

=m=

Good to see the modification to your report and you contradicting yourself. In the end, no matter how much we may think we know about this subject we actually never know. People who come out and make blanket statement as if the world revolved around only them are just full of themselves. No one knows it all about anything; our experiences may or may not apply to others.

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000].

Koreans learn English in school but the English educaiton is generally a pitful joke. The only people who can really learn to speak it are those who come from middle classed families who can afford to send them to private night schools. [/QUOTE]

Contradiction, first you said the only people who CAN really lean are middle class, but reversed yourself below.

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Of course there are people that have a talent for language and learn English outside of the expensive private school system. And the public school system, despite itself, can produce some fluent english speakers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]. There are probably 23 year old english fluent Korean women out there happy to hop into bed with a 50 year old she meets in a bar or Starbucks. But, I wouldn't lay money on it.[/QUOTE]

I like this statement above, now it at least acknowledges the fact that it can happen, the irony is that I share the same view as you in regards to this, but I just don't know so I don't want to discourage the fat guy, don't want to encourage him either though.

You should read this board before you step out. Mya at the Fantasy bar is probably one of the cheapest deals on the hill; there's a report less than two weeks old on this thread that addresses her. She charges anywhere from 40, to 60,000W for her services including affection and annoyance from her dog.

[QUOTE=Shadoe]I visited the hill Last night. The Fantasy bar, she pulled me in, she was a 7. small and sweet.

120,000won for BJ and Normal aktion. Was not the best I've had, but it was good.

Is there somewhere closer to me? Gangnam-gu.

Is there something cheaper in the area.

Let me know please. I'll be here a while. Laugh.

Tim[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Good to see the modification to your report and you contradicting yourself. In the end, no matter how much we may think we know about this subject we actually never know. People who come out and make blanket statement as if the world revolved around only them are just full of themselves. No one knows it all about anything; our experiences may or may not apply to others.

Contradiction, first you said the only people who CAN really lean are middle class, but reversed yourself below.[/QUOTE]Good lord, I would hope people could read between the lines and understand I'm talking majority and not special cases. Do I have to footnote everything?

"I love all pie!" "Well, do you love insect pie?" "Come on, dude."

We all learn math in grade school and high school but I don't know too many people who only went to high school who can still do algebra. Yeah, there are special cases... but all I'm trying to say is those hunting for a freebie outside of Itaewon or areas where the subset of Korean women who want a white meal ticket go will find the going very difficult. Economic and cultural conditions in Korea aren't the same as Thailand, China, the Philippines, etc. One should not come to Seoul expecting Korea to be a carbon copy of less developed places in Asia. Why do young asian women in, say, the Philippines attach themselves to an older white guy? Economic and cultural reasons. Those rules don't apply here.

The vast majority of young Korean women in university are there because their parents have financial resources. To get into university in Korea you have to spend nearly every waking hour in expensive night schools preparing for exams. The only people who can afford those schools are middle and upper classed families. The daughters of those families have expectations similar to a woman in a good university in North America. If college debs aren't throwing themselves at you in North America, don't expect your white skin to make much of a difference in Korea. That's the reality.

Koreans in Korea view Korean society as the superior society. Americans are the barbarians. The majority of Koreans I encounter can't imagine living any place else. This place is perfect to them. They're like Texans.

If they're female, fluent in English, and have a university degree, they can make a good life here. Of course what passes for good English ability in Korea would seem FOBish to North Americans in a professional environment. They understand a life in North America means starting at the bottom again. No more sweet office job at Samsung. It's two years working in a Korean restaurant as a waitress and two years of intensive English education. They're not willing to trade that because you have a backyard. And let's not even talk about that they know they'll be disowned by their family and called ***** by their friends and coworkers.

The other reality is vying for the 20something's attention is a legion of 20something English teachers and GIs. So there you are 40, in your khaki pants and your vendor supplied golf shirt in Sinchon or Edae. And there's a 19 year old GI who looks like Usher. And there's a 25 year old ESL teacher who looks like Beckham. And there's a 21 year old hottie in a plaid mini skirt and kneesocks and she's on the hunt. Yeah, you got a shot. C'mon.

You made a definite statement that said the ONLY Koreans that can learn English the ones from middle class who can afford night school and that the public school was a joke it relation to learning English because they could ONLY learn it in private school. There is no reading between the lines those are "absolute” statements. There’s no ambiguity about that statement, read what you wrote and be a man about it. You seem to think you know so much about Korean women because you've been with a few. You're about as much of an expert as these hookers at relationship. I don't read this board to read between the lines, I read what is presented as is. If you were clear about what you write and don't write crap you would be better understood. Your pie analogy is way out of whack, its totally different from your absolute statement. If your talking about the majority of cases then say that, don't say "only", no reasonable reader would know you mean majority when you say “only”, the word only is a definite and absolute word, it leaves no room for anything else. You still cannot show no matter how much garbage you write what the fat guy's chances are. Your limited experiences (as everyone's else) are yours and should be presented as just that.


[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Good lord, I would hope people could read between the lines and understand I'm talking majority and not special cases. Do I have to footnote everything?

"I love all pie!" "Well, do you love insect pie?" "Come on, dude."

We all learn math in grade school and high school but I don't know too many people who only went to high school who can still do algebra. Yeah, there are special cases... but all I'm trying to say is those hunting for a freebie outside of Itaewon or areas where the subset of Korean women who want a white meal ticket go will find the going very difficult. .

.[/QUOTE]

These people are living in one of the world's top economy, I hope they've started to pay their bills, maybe a fat guy with money could come in and lend some assistance. Out of 3.7 Million Koreans defaulting on their loans, the fat guy should be able to score with at least one percent of the women involved.

More Koreans behind on loans

A surge in credit is now coming back to bite Koreans - 3.7 million are in default of their loans.

SEOUL, South Korea (Reuters) -- The number of South Koreans unable to repay loans and make credit card payments was at a record high by the end of December, a new report says.

One in ten aged 15 and older -- 3.72 million citizens -- were classified as credit delinquents, up 1.98 percent from a month earlier, the Korea Federation of Banks said Thursday.

The federation defines a credit delinquent as someone who misses debt payments worth at least 300,000 won ($250) for at least three straight months.

As the economy has slumped and authorities have tightened regulations on card firms' risk management, South Korea saw the number of defaulters rise by 1.08 million in 2003, the federation said.

and more of the same
[url]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3382497.stm[/url]

[url]http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_28/b3891090.htm[/url]


[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Let me kill some fantasies for middle agers+ coming to Seoul looking to pick up some 20 year old in a miniskirt and kneesocks:

Seoul isn't the sticks of China. Seoul is the capital of one of the world's top economies. In short, women aren't looking for a meal ticket out of here, especially the ones who speak english. They're middle classed and have good career opportunities. . And there's a huge market of Korean men willing to pay for play.[/QUOTE]

Why are we talking, and taking up space, about Korean credit card debt and ability to speak English...I thought this was a SEX forum.

Quote by Cute Guy 9000...The vast majority of young Korean women in university are there because their parents have financial resources. To get into university in Korea you have to spend nearly every waking hour in expensive night schools preparing for exams. The only people who can afford those schools are middle and upper classed families. The daughters of those families have expectations similar to a woman in a good university in North America. If college debs aren't throwing themselves at you in North America, don't expect your white skin to make much of a difference in Korea. That's the reality.

Koreans in Korea view Korean society as the superior society. Americans are the barbarians. The majority of Koreans I encounter can't imagine living any place else. This place is perfect to them. They're like Texans.

If they're female, fluent in English, and have a university degree, they can make a good life here. Of course what passes for good English ability in Korea would seem FOBish to North Americans in a professional environment. They understand a life in North America means starting at the bottom again. No more sweet office job at Samsung. It's two years working in a Korean restaurant as a waitress and two years of intensive English education. They're not willing to trade that because you have a backyard. And let's not even talk about that they know they'll be disowned by their family and called ***** by their friends and coworkers.end quote

My response, BS. Why? What are these so called rich daddies girls going to college for anyway? Korean companies do not keep Korean women working once they reach around 30 years of age! These women go to college for one big reason...to meet a man. Period. They are looking for the sons of rich parents. Very few Koreans are fluent in English. Kongolish, yes. English, no.
Most Korean women who marry Korean men are miserable! Husbands are spending all their time in fuck houses, chasing tail, etc. just like the rest of us. These same women who went to the better Korean universities are not working in high profile companies! Very very few Korean women are working in big name companies as VP's or Presidents. So much for going to college in Korea.
And I'll close with this; Is Korea the desirable choice for visitors or those looking for fun times? No. Most of the time, Koreans are their own worse enemy. Many people I know make it a point never to buy any Korean products on principle. Why? They do not want to support such a rabidly nationalistic, xenophobic and mercantilist economy. Koreans are so predatory and nationalistic. They have a closed economy and a zero-sum attitude to trade. Protectionism in the early stages of an economy is not unreasonable. Dealing with Koreans is like dealing with bright adolescents. They're full of energy and want to do everything yesterday. But they throw tantrums and are prone to dangerous and erratic behavior if their whims are not indulged. In most countries, intellectuals become universal. You learn that great ideas and values have no national boundaries. What is profoundly disturbing is that Korean intellectuals become more xenophobic and nationalistic, and perpetuate the idea that all of Korea's problems are the result of willfulness by foreigners. This is the mark of a scoundrel. Korean society makes a sharp distinction between an individual's inner circle of family, friends and business colleagues, and outsiders. Members of the inner circle must always be treated with absolute respect and courtesy, while strangers are treated with indifference. Korean society is not egalitarian: a person's status is strictly defined in relation to others. How do foreigners and or the US military fit into this scheme? The simple answer is they don't. Koreans however do want your money but once they get it, you are useless to them. Look at the Japanese that visit Korea. Many Koreans hate the Japanese, but to their faces, they welcome them because they want their money. Behind their backs, many Koreans are backstabbers.
I'm not anti Korea nor am I flaming them. They do a great job of that themselves.
This is not meant to sound sexism...but the women are great...it's the Korean men that ruin everything

Hold on SCUBA,

I am here for advice on how to get laid more often, but since we are on the topic. Let get something right.

Only an ignorant person would make such denagrating generalities about an entire culture and its people. Korean's are not much different than anyone else. They are subject to the same human imperfections that the rest of us are. It would be safe to say that they are pursuing the same self promotion that we took when penetrating foreign markets a few decades ago.

I believe that your distaste for Koreans is probably due to your poor experiences with them, which is probably a refelction of your deficient personality. All I can say is that I am usually well treated in this country. I think that the disgust that you are displaying on this site is indicative of the way you interact with others. If I met you on the street, and saw you demonstrate such spite and racisist tendencies towards others, I would treat you like a stay dog starved of affection from even bloodsucking fleas. I don't think that anyone should tolerate the tone of your remarks because they represent only the worst in people. Oh yes, In America, we have major problems with Road Rage and violent assaults; does this make all American Violent Barbarians.

One more thing, Korean women don't go to college to get married. That is the most absurd thing that I have heard. People, regardless of race or nationality have dreams and desire even though those dreams and deisres may have a glass ceiling on them; hell, we still have that problem back in the States. Bye the way, I am sure that most people (anywhere) want to marry well; Dont' tell me that you would prefer to marry a convicted criminal with a sordid past instead of someone friendly and well educated from a good family.

Hey Scuba Dork,

You are no expert on Korean Society or economics so drop it because you make yourself sound like an idiot. Korea is the 11th largest economy in the world and it has penetrated markets that most others have failed to enter (you know...the trade barrier thing > do you sense the sarcasim?). It is also going to actively pursue tactics to protect its economy and global interests, just like any other industrialized economy. Try writing about something that you know about.

Oh yes, Korean women prefer Korean men because they better understand each other. That is a "no brainer". There are many expressions in Korean that cannot be expressed with words in English. This alone makes a huge difference. I happen to know many Koreans and Cute GUY 9000 is correct, Middle class and upperclass Koreans have no reason to leave Korea. It is their country, they understand it, they are familiar with it, and they have everything that they would need in any fully developed economy. how would you like to move to Nigeria or India for the rest of yor life? Think about it SCUBA. How dare you think that we are superior to anyone. how dare you think that any Korean woman would leave her country just to live in ours. You need some lessons in maturity and humility because you make me sick. I hope that you grow up and then go back in the future, so that you can open your eyes to these people and their culture. Unfortunately, people don't usually change, so I think that you will continue to deprive yourself of the beautiful things that this country and its peopl have to offer.

You know, I remembe the days when the post were about how to get laid in RLDs by hot Korean and foreign chicks, but Crap, what the hell happened. I am sitting here thinking what the HELL!!!!. Half of the post on this web site are lies about some lame ass middle aged fantasy and the other half it about some punks lame ass fantasy.

I am an American that lives in Korea. I am well educated, work for one of the World's largest Banks, and I look pretty damn good; however, I have a hard time hooking up with the more educated college girls, so what the fuck is everyone talking about. Lets be honest. The only chicks that we are going to lay are the ones that sell the shit to us. So why doesn't someone post something useful, like how to get girls to give us Scope or Listerine BJs without a coat on, or better yet, which Barber shop to hit in order to pound some nice Korean Pussy instead of a used up 30 year old with a messed up face and nasty teeth. No on here is dating any Korean Girls and if you were you would not be wasting your time here. That is the fucking truth.

No how about them post, aye boys. Lets get some juicy fucking tips on how to really get laid at a nice discount from the pros that can really satisfy. Beside, if any of you really laid a real korean lady, then you would know that they play hard to get first and then they are pretty damn bad in bed because the don;t want to sucky sucky of get off their backs. MAN.

I hope that I don't have to continue because I will drill down any liars with worthless information; beware, you might be able to tell a good story, but if you can't answer my questions when I drill you down, then your a punk and you have jsut been busted.

Hey Some new phots would be good if anyone has any. Seeeeee Yahhhhh.

[QUOTE=Bangalot]Hold on SCUBA,

.[/QUOTE]

Oh you poor thing...did I hit a sore spot?! Get a life.
I stand by the post.
And again...where are all these college women working? Very few are running Korean companies and even fewer are in upper management. Or even lower management!
It is not an attact on Koreans, so don't put words in my mouth. And I have no problems in Korea with either men or women.
I am only pointing out the facts as I have seen them since living in Korea for 29 years.
You can post whatever you like..it's a free world...but...don't show me or the world your ignorance by personal attacks/name calling on this site.
I don't think anyone is superior to another, we are all the same. Even you.
I'm not going to even respond to any further comments from you.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]You made a definite statement that said the ONLY Koreans that can learn English the ones from middle class who can afford night school and that the public school was a joke it relation to learning English because they could ONLY learn it in private school. There is no reading between the lines those are "absolute” statements. There’s no ambiguity about that statement, read what you wrote and be a man about it. You seem to think you know so much about Korean women because you've been with a few. You're about as much of an expert as these hookers at relationship. I don't read this board to read between the lines, I read what is presented as is. If you were clear about what you write and don't write crap you would be better understood. Your pie analogy is way out of whack, its totally different from your absolute statement. If your talking about the majority of cases then say that, don't say "only", no reasonable reader would know you mean majority when you say “only”, the word only is a definite and absolute word, it leaves no room for anything else. You still cannot show no matter how much garbage you write what the fat guy's chances are. Your limited experiences (as everyone's else) are yours and should be presented as just that.[/QUOTE]Think a moment. The better prostitutes in Korea have standards and won't sleep with non-Asians. If that's not indicitive of the state of affairs here, I don't know what is. If you could point to some stories on this board of middle aged men having great success trolling outside Itaewon for younger english speaking Korean women, I'd love to read it. I can't recall seeing any. Check the Thailand or Flip boards and lots of men have their little lists of web cam babes they're going to meet in country. Odd you don't see that here on the Korean board, no?

I see a lot of white middle aged men walk into Starbucks. I don't see many Korean women raising their eyes to take a look. I don't even see them taking a look at a good looking younger guy.

Yes, please, come to Seoul and believe whatever you want. Don't take the advice of people who live here and deal with Korean women every day and know the score. The majority opinion of ex pats in Seoul is Korean women are image conscious and spend their early 20s looking for a Korean man who can provide them with designer purses and satisfy their parents ego. I take the less materialistic view that Korean women are actually cognizent of their opportunities in Korea and the ones with education and fluency don't assume a white guy is their ticket to success but they can build a good life here. Yeah, many of us came here thinking being a westerner would be like being the guy with a british accent in a North American pub. Oh how the women swoon. Ain't like that here. The queston is why. Economics, opportunity, and cultural pressures are different here, elements you don't tap into until you live here.

The first time I came to Korea, in year 2000, you would get a lot of random young women talking to you in Starbucks or the subway. But after World Cup and the introduction of foreign teachers in high schools and grade schools, Koreans seem to have gotten their fill of foreigners. And with the recent ESL teacher scandal, there are fewer Korean women really anxious to be seen on the arm of a white guy. Image is king here.

If you're looking for a nation with easy, white lovin' Asian women who think white people are all rich, I don't know too many people who would put Korea, or at least Seoul, near the top of their list.

But again, you know, have your own fantasy.

[QUOTE=Bangalot]... So why doesn't someone post something useful, like how to get girls to give us Scope or Listerine BJs without a coat on, or better yet, which Barber shop to hit in order to pound some nice Korean Pussy instead of a used up 30 year old with a messed up face and nasty teeth. No on here is dating any Korean Girls and if you were you would not be wasting your time here. That is the fucking truth.

No how about them post, aye boys. Lets get some juicy fucking tips on how to really get laid at a nice discount from the pros that can really satisfy. Beside, if any of you really laid a real korean lady, then you would know that they play hard to get first and then they are pretty damn bad in bed because the don;t want to sucky sucky of get off their backs. MAN.

I hope that I don't have to continue because I will drill down any liars with worthless information; beware, you might be able to tell a good story, but if you can't answer my questions when I drill you down, then your a punk and you have jsut been busted.

Hey Some new phots would be good if anyone has any. Seeeeee Yahhhhh.[/QUOTE]Writes someone who has a grand total of ten posts, the two most recent of which were useless diatribes. You have to give a little to get a little, freeloader.

And can someone please explain to me why so many f*ckups who brag of being so good-looking and well-educated with good jobs can't write or spell worth a damn?

Nothing but garbage, prostitutes won't sleep with non-Asians because of their standards? What? Their standards? What is the qualification for classifying them as "better" and how do you know it's because of "standards" that they won't sleep with non-Asians. Again you're speaking for a whole group and offer nothing to back up your claim. How in the world do you know this stuff? I've live here way before 2000, but will never speak for any group as you have unless I have facts to back it up. Write stuff you can back up not crap that revolve around you, it's not reflective of any nation or group as a whole. Quit while you're behind.

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Think a moment. The better prostitutes in Korea have standards and won't sleep with non-Asians. If that's not indicitive of the state of affairs here, I don't know what is.

.[/QUOTE]
How silly is this? The fact that something is not written on a sex board with a limited (relatively speaking) number of members does not mean that it doesn't happen. Really intelligent comment! This comment really says it all about you. Using this board as a barometer to measure events in a country or group really tells so much about your research or lack of. Keep pulling stuff out of the air. Middle age guys come on over those of you not already here and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] this crusader off, he just doesn’t want you to succeed.

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]I don't know what is. If you could point to some stories on this board of middle aged men having great success trolling outside Itaewon for younger english speaking Korean women, I'd love to read it. I can't recall seeing any. Check the Thailand or Flip boards and lots of men have their little lists of web cam babes they're going to meet in country. Odd you don't see that here on the Korean board, no?

.[/QUOTE]

For fans of In and Out Massage, they've added a new twist to their service. You now have to shower before the massage. This normally would be a good thing if the girl was washing you down, but no, you perform a solo act. They have a robe for you to use to go to the shower room. BTW, they don't change that robe or that oversize pants after every customer as they should. I don't use that pants though, I just use my drawers.

Too many smelly dick johns, the girl said. The girls are a little smarter too (or someone is) , the last couple told me "mens Isayo" when my hands went down there. Nothing more than not wanting you to finger them, but pretty creative. Try Gina if she is there, you can perform a pap smear on her and she won't mind.

[QUOTE=Darren 33]What's the deal with Friends (Soongsil) these days? I'm not sure, but am under the impression that they do not want foreigners there anymore. Are you still getting regular service there without any hassles?[/QUOTE]Not sure Darren but I was thinking of popping over there on the weekend, the last report here was very very good, have you experienced something different?

I tried to refrain from this fool, but gee it's hard, so here goes.

You sound like some 25 year old punk without a clue, but you'll make every effort to sound off on your "expertise" on hooking up with K-Girls. Have not read one success story from you yet. Maybe you should try wearing kahkis and golf shirts, gain 100lbs, and get a job that pays you well enough to try a night at Lotte or Shilla. You even strike out in BBS's

Here is a rundown of your adventures:

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
I went to a twin barbershop up in a northern suburb of Seoul. The woman was a solid 6 in face and body. She looked late 20s. Using minimun Korean skills and some international sign language I indicated I was looking for a HJ. She quoted 60K. I'm a white guy and there didn't seem to be any problem with that, even though I was up in an area where they might not get many foreigners.

It was your typical BBS experience. Led to a room and given a foot washing. Following a quick shoulder massage she pulled down the standard issues shorts and began to work my member. I stopped her and tried to indicate I'd like her naked. She would only let me get her topless and feel her boobs. She didn't seem to want me to suck her tits.

After some manipulation I stopped her again and tried more international sign language indicating I'd like her to use her mouth.

"Mouth?" she asked.

Neh. [/Quote]Paid 60K for a HJ, you smooth cat you. Didn't let you suck the titties either. Got to study that international sign language a little more.

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
Started chatting with this 20something Korean woman on MSN and after a couple weeks talked her out of her clothes, at least on cell phone camera. Never got her to my place as she seems to have vanished. I suspect she gave up on Seoul and went back to her family in Busan. Anyway, I wanted to spice up the photo section a bit. She claimed she was about 5'7" and in chat seemed open to a wide range of rather dirty things, being tied up, cum on face, etc. And she had huge jugs. Damn she got away. [/Quote]And have you seen those pics? IMHO that is not a hot 20 some year old, but to each his own. Same story here though, she dumped you.

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
It might seem a little strange to go to Korea to have sex with a white woman but if you're American consider there are a lot of horny Canadian women ESL teachers. If they're not given to Korean men, they find it a bit hard finding a white guy. The white guys are all chasing Korean women, of course. Canadian women, like American women, are much more used to the idea of a one night stand and know the score. You're not interested in being their English teacher.

Canadian women find exotic and charming American GIs, especially if you're a fine southern man with what amounts to a very charming accent to a Canadian. Latino men also drive Canadian women wild. There are not many Latinos in Canada. If you're black too you'll find a much more receptive audience in Canadian women. And regardless of race, if you're larger down there, it won't scare them off. Nothing worse than having sex with a Korean woman not used to a dick over 4" and a look on her face like "when will this be over with?" [/Quote]Well charming southern dude, how was the Canuck lay? Oops no mention of it in your post, guess your still trying. Matter of fact are you Southern, Latino, or Black?

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
That said, it still is easy to get a date in Seoul. But mostly women here want to practice their English and have dinner with a foreigner.[/Quote]Maybe you should try whipping out your cell phone camera, snap some shots of her tits, have grits and bacon served up while you do the Salsa to some P-Diddy tune.

Dude, I've been over here for the last 12 years straight, first came in 1981.

Rule #1- Learn some of their language and customs, it will take you a long ways. I don't care if you are 50 and weigh 250lbs.

Matter of fact you sound like the "example" that I experienced 2 weeks ago. "Bob" all 265lbs of him, speaks fluent Korean, can sing along to Karaoke to any song, been here for the past 20 years. Young 20 some yr old punk "gods gift to women in his own eyes" says "There is no way that any good looking young girl is going to hang with you when I'm around, me in my GQ outfit, you in kahkis and a polo shirt. 30 mins later, 20 yr is teaching a cute K-girl how to play cribbage in a coffee shop. (that's original, wish I thought of that one). Bob eyes the karaoke box and starts singing famous tune perfect. Took about 2 mins for cute girl to drop her new found desire NOT to learn cribbage and hang with young punk who didn't have a clue, but to go hang with "Bob" and his no BS approach to hooking up.

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
Think a moment. The better prostitutes in Korea have standards and won't sleep with non-Asians. If that's not indicitive of the state of affairs here, I don't know what is [/Quote]HA HA- I haven't slept with a non-Asian since 1980. And should I mention my standards are a little high. No uglys here.

[Quote=Cute Guy 9000]
The other reality is vying for the 20something's attention is a legion of 20something English teachers and GIs. So there you are 40, in your khaki pants and your vendor supplied golf shirt in Sinchon or Edae. And there's a 19 year old GI who looks like Usher. And there's a 25 year old ESL teacher who looks like Beckham. And there's a 21 year old hottie in a plaid mini skirt and kneesocks and she's on the hunt. Yeah, you got a shot. C'mon. [/Quote]You are good. I'm 42 and that hot girl sounds just like what my 26 year old non-pro girl freind for the past 12 months looks like and wears. Must say she looks pretty good in those goods. And hell she even washes my kahkis and golf shirts.

And in the words of the 90's Motley Crue hit;

Don't go away mad, just go away.

K-Girls ROK Me ==since 1981==

Scuba,

You poor slob, I am sorry if my comments personally struck a nerve but hey, the comments you made were racist and ignorant. They demonstrate your poor understanding of Korean Culture and its people. Common sense dictates that people are going to associate with people similar to them; in this case, Korean men are more similar to Korean woman then foreign men. Doh!

Bye the way, it is a little hard to cover up your tracks after the previous postings that you submitted, which are clearly indicative of someone who has self esteem issues and poor social skills.

Let's see here. I have rarely seen Korean girl out in public with white guys since moving to Seoul a few years ago and again, I am an attractive younger male and I don't get to many looks and many many turn downs, so please, don't tell me that some droopy old 50 year man can pick up all of the hot college rich girls that he wants. "COMMON SENSE" It doesn't really happen anywhere except for maybe thrid world countries and Korea is not one of them. If a Korean girl does consider dating a foreigner, he better be the kind of man that any woman would want to bring home to mom and dad "COMMON SENSE". Oh wait, maybe every well educated girl from good family and a bright future want to be some middle aged mans fuck toy for the rest of her life. Why on Earth would she at least be considering having beautiful little kids and a happy home life with her family. Nahhh, Not a chance. The just want to fuck us white boys all day. DOH!

Oh wait, f you think that all Korean men treat their women badly, you are mistaken. Korean women run the households and it is actually the man that is submissive to the wife. She only displays her submissiveness in public for her husbands face. DON"T EVEN TRY TO CONTEST THIS > it is inherent in Korean culture. Korean men actually treat their wives with the utmost respect and most of you would know this if you lived in Korea for any length of time.

Get real boys.

Run mann,

All people have some standards. Even the lowliest street walkers in the States won't just get into any car. Bye the way guys, Most Korean prostitutes don't have sex with foreigners, so relax boys. It is getting tough to get laid in Korea and our dollar isn't exactly as strong as it once was (losing over 25% of it value in Korea over the past year). THIS MEANS that it is also getting relatively expensive for all of you ENGLISH teachers making about $22,000 - $28,000 USD a year.

I have a question? If you think so poorly of Korea and its people, then why are you here? The only reason I ask is because I haven't seen any good post with useful information in it. I mean heck, you talk about things like korean credit debt and delinquincy ratios, but ours are higher in the States, so that has to make us even more stupid and incapable of handling our debt. Remember that the average U.S household has approximately $8,000 in credit card debt alone and that our debt to income ratios hit over 46%. We also have the lowest savings rates of all industrialized countries and South Korea has the second highest behind Japan. hmmmm. you should get your facts straight RUN MANN because Koreans are still dong much better than we are in this area even though their default rates are going up.

Come on guys! Is there so few opportunities to get a shot of ass here in Korea since the crackdown that we have resigned ourselves to busting each others balls? Lets get back to the meat and potatoes guys. You know, the whole purpose Jackson started the forum in the first place and let our sorry assess participate. To locate pussy! The only thing I have located from the South Korea section lately is a bunch of mongers with different opinions about how they perceive things to be in Korea. Great guys, but thats not getting me stroked, smoked or laid. Lets get back to locating ass guys! Thanks!

Yella Man, previously Travaholic, but somehow became Member#2966

[QUOTE=Member #2966]Come on guys! Is there so few opportunities to get a shot of ass here in Korea since the crackdown that we have resigned ourselves to busting each others balls? Lets get back to the meat and potatoes guys. You know, the whole purpose Jackson started the forum in the first place and let our sorry assess participate. To locate pussy! The only thing I have located from the South Korea section lately is a bunch of mongers with different opinions about how they perceive things to be in Korea. Great guys, but thats not getting me stroked, smoked or laid. Lets get back to locating ass guys! Thanks!

Yella Man, previously Travaholic, but somehow became Member#2966[/QUOTE]AMEN, been too much of this in many weeks past.

On 3/27/05 in Other Areas section:
[Quote=Girls Rok Me]
Lets talk about tits, ass, and kimchee flavored girls...[/Quote]

Well said 2966!

You wankers have finally fucked this thread!

PLEASE TAKE IT TO PMs if you MUST - where is all this alpha male shit coming from? Next, you'll be competing over dick sizes!! Come on, fellas, give it a rest!

Message to Darren 33 re: Friends. First of all, Friends has had a change of name: It is now called "Seollaem", which means, I think, "anticipation", or something like that.

Secondly, I don't think it helped that you slagged off one of the girls working there.

Thirdly - AND THIS BIT IS IMPORTANT - just as WE have "world sex guide", so too do korean speakers. Not so long ago, a Korean customer of Seollaem posted a complaint on the Korean equivalent of this site that an unnamed venue - though he dropped enough clues for the dumb and not-so-dumb to surmise that it was, indeed, Seollaem, was servicing foreigners. As of last week, his comments were viewed by more than 1500 readers!

This has caused alot of problems for the owners of Seollaem who, believe it or not, much prefer their foreign guests to their Korean ones. The boss there is my closest friend in Korea, so please believe me when I tell you of his angst. Whilst he (and, he says, his employees) prefer OUR company because there are never any problems caused when we visit, the harsh reality is that, compared to korean customers, we make up a miniscule percentage of turnover and, thus, income.

It IS still possible to visit (at least, I have found it so) but, for now, it is not easy. He is trying to work out how best to deal with everything so that all comers can be welcomed again.

It should be noted that this negativity certainly does NOT come from all Koreans - far from it - just a few ignorant racists, that's all. Most people in Korea are quite laid back and I've met some great guys through the doord of what was "Friends". As soon as there is better news, I promise to let you all know via this forum.

HoMan, thanks for the info. Too bad, I liked the place, so I hope the owner will solve the problem soon. I had three possible theories in mind (police/bad behavior from foreigners/complaints from Korean customers) and apparentlty the third one is the right one.

Btw, I didn't 'slag off' anyone, just briefly gave my opinion about 1 girl, just like it has been done hundreds of times on this forum, and this has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening at Friends these days (or Solleim, I know the name has changed, I'm not blind).

You really take the cake, read and get informed before you start writing. I've haven't seen one useful post from you, your 12 post are nothing but calling other members names. Go back and read and show me one post where I disparaged Koreans or show where "I think so poorly of Koreans." The reference to standards was directed to a post where the writer said that the better prostitute rejected non-Asians because of their "standards", my question was how did he determine it was because of their standards? Not that they didn't have standards. If you read the reports you would have seen the connection. You again didn't see the credit cards debts piece as a reference to some thing else, not to highlight their debts solely. If you're so well educated, how could you not have seen that my posts were just replies to counter another person’s point? They were not necessarily my views, Ah! The benefits of a classical education. Sure hope you use some of your education in that Large Bank you work in, because you did not use it here. You don't even deserve any further explanation so I'm going to join Scuba and turn you off. Keep writing about things you don’t know about and calling other member’s names, it really shows your "intelligence"


[QUOTE=Bangalot]Run mann,

All people have some standards. Even the lowliest street walkers in the States won't just get into any car. Bye the way guys, Most Korean prostitutes don't have sex with foreigners, so relax boys. It is getting tough to get laid in Korea and our dollar isn't exactly as strong as it once was (losing over 25% of it value in Korea over the past year). THIS MEANS that it is also getting relatively expensive for all of you ENGLISH teachers making about $22,000 - $28,000 USD a year.

I have a question? If you think so poorly of Korea and its people, then why are you here? The only reason I ask is because I haven't seen any good post with useful information in it. I mean heck, you talk about things like korean credit debt and delinquincy ratios, but ours are higher in the States, so that has to make us even more stupid and incapable of handling our debt. Remember that the average U.S household has approximately $8,000 in credit card debt alone and that our debt to income ratios hit over 46%. We also have the lowest savings rates of all industrialized countries and South Korea has the second highest behind Japan. hmmmm. you should get your facts straight RUN MANN because Koreans are still dong much better than we are in this area even though their default rates are going up.[/QUOTE]

Need I say more?

[QUOTE=Bangalot]

I am an American that lives in Korea. I am well educated, work for one of the World's largest Banks, and I look pretty damn good; however, I have a hard time hooking up with the more educated college girls, [/QUOTE]

Wow, is all I can say. Get out of Itaewon. Take a look around Sinchon or Kodae or SNU or Myeong Dong or Dongdaemoon or Jongno. Look at all the young hot Korean girls. See any on the arm of a middle aged white man? Head to a Starbucks. Watch Korean women when a lone white man walks in. See any heads turning? Go to Thailand or the Philippines and sure you see a lot of older men with their little fun time honey for the week. But that's a rare sight here. Again, there's a good reason.

(Once in a while you see a nice looking Korean woman with a real pig but that sure doesn't imply they're a couple. There's a lot of "language exchange" dates going on here. Which generally amounts to the Korean woman thinking "oh I'm going to meet a foreigner and practice my English for free" and the foreigner thinking "I'm gonna get lucky!" Sometimes, sure. But again don't lay money on it. Curiously, this is a land where the direct approach works better. Probably because Korean men are very direct about what they want. "Give me your cell phone number because I want you to be my girlfriend.")

I guess it's a little much to expect career Asian prostitute mongers to accept the idea that there exists a place on earth where young Asian women don't all speak English and the ones that do are typically middle and upper classed and aren't willing to over look a big age difference and your slovenly dress because you're a white man. In a nation where females were aborted regularly and where men outnumber women by 15%, a woman of breeding age has lots of options domestically and can command a lot from highly paid Korean professionals where the tax rate is 3%.

I know it's hard to believe because, you know, you understand how Seoul women think because you pay a Korean woman in New York to jerk you off.

Here's the skinny:

Hurdle One: A Korean woman who dates or even considers marrying a westerner runs the very real risk of being disowned by her family. Family is everything in Korea. A Korean without a family is a persona non grata. The Korean social welfare system almost wholly relies on an extended family to take care of their own.

Hurdle One point one: Being called a ho by older Korean men. This is a culture where women aren't allowed to smoke in public because an older man will swat the cigarette out of her mouth. With the recent English Spectrum controversy and the never forgotten "those Americans like to run over our school girls with tanks" incident, a Korean woman doesn't generally view a white man on your arm as a social status marker like an LV purse.

Hurdle Two: English. Even those that can speak it don't for fear of looking stupid. Losing face is a huge thing here. One of my female friends is quite good at English, works at an international hotel in marketing, and if she's stopped on the streets by a foreigner for directions she'll suddenly adopt the "me no speak englishee!" Your ability to go outside of the Itaewon/Yongsan track (where Korean women with real white fever go) and try your pickup skills is much more limited.

Hurdle Three: Expectations. A Korean woman fluent in English with a university degree doesn't need a white guy and a green card to fashion a good life here.

Hurdle Four: Korea is the superior culture. Koreans like some aspects of Western culture, sure, but Koreans are some of the most partisan, xenophobic people in the world. Korea is the only nation on earth where McDonald's is not the number one fast food restaurant and domestic movies out gross Hollywood films and Wal-Mart is floundering, badly. Koreans like made in Korea. Everything here is better, in their view. One of the hardest things for Koreans to believe is other countries have four distinct seasons too. They literally learn from birth that Korea is the only nation on earth that has four seasons. Other crazy things they have a hard time believing is, like, Korean food actually came from some place else, like China or Japan or Mongolia. Telling a Korean their food isn't always the most wholesome food on the planet would win you no friends. It's not uncommon for Korean tourists to pack their own Korean food and never actually eat the local cuisine when they visit Europe or Thailand.

Hurdle Five: The nail that sticks out gets hammered down. Korea is one of the great monocultures. Being different here isn't generally considered a good thing. The ultimate insult is being called a "wang ta", an outsider. Your average status conscious Korean woman wants exactly what her status conscious friends want: designer purses and a future husband who is a doctor or Samsung executive.

Hurdle Six: AIDS and other diseases. Foreigners they think bring these things. Why do A row prostitutes wave white people along? Disease fears.

Hurdle Seven: The ex-pat competition. You've got ESL types that have been here long enough to speak Korean. You've got young GIs.

If you like Korean women, Korean culture, and food, come here. Expect your chances with women here to be roughly equivalent to your chances with women back at home. Time and luck. Don't come expecting a nation full of women burning with white fever. You'll be very disappointed. If you want a sure thing, pay for play or stick to Itaewon or join ten million other men who message every Korean woman who lists her ID on MSN or Yahoo and set up a sure thing. Get out of Itaewon for some of the most remarkable eye candy, especially in summer. Skirts seem even shorter this summer. If you want to take your shot, well, go for it. But the safe money is that your little trip to Apukjong or Gangnam or Sinchon or Dongdaemoon will result in a world class case of blue balls.

I'm done. Welcome to Korea.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]That massage is still available, but you have to ask for it because it's no longer written on the menu. It appears that only one girl (Jean-I think her name is) gives this massage, at least that's what the receptionist told me the last time I was there.[/QUOTE]Runn Mann,

When was the last time you were there. I went to Kim's after reading the above post and was told they don't do New Age. There were a lot of people there at the time. So I am going to go back after typing this and see what's up.

Hey don't look now but you've got forum members calling you a punk and a fool for posting the same repetitive unsubstantiated junk over and over. Keep it up, you may eventually convince yourself this is true.


[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Wow, is all I can say. Get out of Itaewon. Take a look around Sinchon or Kodae or SNU or Myeong Dong or Dongdaemoon or Jongno. Look at all the young hot Korean girls. See any on the arm of a middle aged white man? Head to a Starbucks. Watch Korean women when a lone white man walks in. See any heads turning? Go to Thailand or the Philippines and sure you see a lot of older men with their little fun time honey for the week. But that's a rare sight here. Again, there's a good reason.

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I'm done. Welcome to Korea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Wow, is all I can say. Get out of Itaewon.

(snip)

I'm done. Welcome to Korea.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Every foreign male I know with a Korean-raised spouse or a long-term relationship with a local either 1) got married in the 1980s or earlier, 2) is fluent in the Korean language and lived in Korea long-term before marriage, or 3) married an extremely open-minded Korean, something that is rare indeed. I've always had far better luck with Korean-Americans or Korean-Canadians visiting or studying here.

Korea is a very Confucian society, built on hierarchical relationships. Everyone, upon first meeting, determines their relative social status. Foreigners' status in this system is undefined. Therefore, they have no status.

Korean women with foreign men here risk total ostracization by family, society and government. One who is ostracized by their family risked (until very recently) being crossed out of their family's geneaology, meaning they were no longer citizens in the eyes of the Korean government.

Hurdle 4 is very true - Koreans think deep down that their way is the best. Buying a foreign car is almost an act of treason and opens the door to an instant tax audit. Koreans really do think that theirs is the only country in the world with four distinct seasons. Koreans ridicule Kyopos (overseas Koreans) who use Western logic and do not exhibit the correct Korean 사고방식 ("sago-bang-shik" - way of thinking).

Hurdle 6 goes like this: "AIDS is a foreign disease, therefore all foreigners have AIDS."

There is a national museum in Chonan, about 60 miles south of Seoul - the Independence Hall of Korea. In it, there is (or there was; the last time I was there was 1993) a little display on the supposed cranial capacities of all the "races." (Koreans consider themselves a separate and distinct race, as different from Chinese as white is from black) Guess who they say averages the world's biggest brains? And this is an official national museum!

This is a country that has been invaded hundreds of times over their history and yet has maintained the most homogeneous society in the world. It was the "hermit kingdom" whose kings posted stone markers throughout the countryside warning people of foreigners and had to be opened to the world at gunpoint in the late 19th century. Every year, bills to counter racial discrimination are introduced in the National Assembly and never make it out of committee. Another telling sign of the "official" Korean governement attitude towards foreigners is the legal definition of murder: "causing the death of a Korean citizen." That's right: if a Korean kills a foreigner wrongfully, it is not murder under Korean law; merely a serious class of assault.

If you're a foreigner in this part of the world, and have neither the time nor inclination to settle here for years, Angeles City is only a plane ride away.

Hey guys,

I have firgured out why we are all having a hard time getting Korean Pussy. Because there are enough fucked up and perverted foreign guys in Korea who think so lowly of the people and cons't stand the fact that the girls here are not like the girls in south east Asia. The balls you all have gt to be enormous and they probably swell up to the size of mellons when you walk down the street and see all of that nice Korean pussy with their arms around Korean me. CUTE GUY 9000, keep it up. You seem to be one of the only guys online that actually tells the truth. Damn, what a bunch of scum suckers.

Oh yes, the writing, I write well. It's the typing that sucks, but hey, that is what my administrative assistant is for. What do you do? Beat off in front of a computer screen all day. oh. My point Nick Belane, is that you are not going to see any older foreingers with their hands around Korean girls as much as you will back in the states. It is not a racist mentality, Korean women just feel more comfortable with Korean men. It is not that big of a deal. I have given up on finding someone to marry, I am just looking for some tight pussy that I can pay for. I will go back to the states for a serious relationship with a nice girl from Chicago.

Dear Jackson

If it is within your ambit, PLEASE do regular readers of this forum an almighty service and suspend the membership of Run Mann and Cute Guy 9000. They are ruining the Seoul thread for many other contributors by engaging in a never-ending flame war.

I used to enjoy Run Mann's contributions - but he has allowed himself to get sucked in by Cute Guy 9000, whose only "contributions" seem to be aimed at agitating responses in kind from Run Mann. It's a lot of shit to trawl through, just to get to matters of importance. You know WHY this forum was set up by your predecessor. It used to be so good...

I have never had a problem finding a nice goodlooking girl and getting good service. I have seen people of mid-eastern origin get refused. I have also seen Russian people told to take a hike! I suppose alot of it depends on you too. A few tips would be dont dress like a slob as this is Korea and appearance is the most important thing. I am as blond and blue eyed as they come so I will never be confused for a Korean. I have had a few chicks turn me down and Im thinking that the number would be something you could count on one hand.


Problems I have had have been with Korean men who are also looking to get some. I am basically verbally abused. Now given the fact that I could plant these guys in one second.....I really question there sanity. This really pisses me off but if I do give them the beating they deserve I will get fined and deported and shit will happen to them. I have known way to many people who have suffered this fate. (Most Koreans I know are reasonable people but when it comes to chicks that changes everything) Anyway I will never take shit from anyone. If your gonna descriminate against me cause Im a foreigner then go a head I will tell you to F-Off, not a problem! So I hope you guys go hunting proudly and dont worry if some guys give you some flap they wont do anything. I have asked some of them oh do we have a problem here and they look away or just walk away.



Anyway just my thoughts on this.....


RM

As I posted before, the only one as far as I know that does it is the girl name "Jean,” she also does outcall. Your best bet may be to set up an appointment with her for outcall. I must tell you though that she is not the most attractive girl of the bunch. If this was your first visit, or as you said lots of people were there, they may have been a bit cautious. Try the regular massage with her and ask for it towards the end of the session may be another way to go. Also try the other outcall massage girls from the newspaper too, I'm sure they would be glad to offer that type of service.



[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]Runn Mann,

When was the last time you were there. I went to Kim's after reading the above post and was told they don't do New Age. There were a lot of people there at the time. So I am going to go back after typing this and see what's up.[/QUOTE]

Great first post! Now what are the chances that this post is written by the same person that he is purporting to validate? 100 percent.

S & M

Check your pm box, I just responded.



[QUOTE=Deep Kimchi]Absolutely. Every foreign male I know with a Korean-raised spouse or a long-term relationship with a local either 1) got married in the 1980s or earlier, 2) is fluent in the Korean language and lived in Korea long-term before marriage, or 3) married an extremely open-minded Korean, something that is rare indeed. I've always had far better luck with Korean-Americans or Korean-Canadians visiting or studying here.

Korea is a very Confucian society, built on hierarchical relationships. Everyone, upon first meeting, determines their relative social status. Foreigners' status in this system is undefined. Therefore, they have no status.

Korean women with foreign men here risk total ostracization by family, society and government. One who is ostracized by their family risked (until very recently) being crossed out of their family's geneaology, meaning they were no longer citizens in the eyes of the Korean government.

Hurdle 4 is very true - Koreans think deep down that their way is the best. Buying a foreign car is almost an act of treason and opens the door to an instant tax audit. Koreans really do think that theirs is the only country in the world with four distinct seasons. Koreans ridicule Kyopos (overseas Koreans) who use Western logic and do not exhibit the correct Korean 사고방식 ("sago-bang-shik" - way of thinking).

If you're a foreigner in this part of the world, and have neither the time nor inclination to settle here for years, Angeles City is only a plane ride away.[/QUOTE]

To stop all the Bullshit that's going on in this thread, I have suggested to Jackson to create an "Advice and Opinions" section in South Korea. Go to "Site Administration" which is at the bottom of the page when you first enter the WSG site. Then click on "Suggest New Topic". Then tell Jackson you would like an "Advice and Opinions" Section in the South Korea section so that you can vent whatever the hell you want to vent about. The Seoul thread is for locating sweet, tight pussy, not bashing each other with your opinions, no matter how much validity they hold. Do this Fellow hunters, and free us of the "No-it-alls" who have been ruining this thread.

Yella Man

I apologize to Run Mann - your posts are usually first class. Cute Guy 9000, some of your observations are informative - but would, perhaps, be better expressed in an "Advice and Opinions" section, as suggested by #2966. That way, this page can be reserved for what we all crave.

I called Kim's today and asked to speak to Jean. The girl who answered told me that there are TWO Jeans (and she was one of them). I asked about the New Age Massage and she told me that it was the OTHER Jean who used to offer that service - but that it had been discontinued since January.

After further probing, she agreed that it was something best discussed with the other Jean, in person, rather than over the telephone.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get near Itaewon for about 4 or 5 weeks, so it would be appreciated if another WSGer could test the veracity of the above paragraph sooner - and post his findings.

On another Itaewon matter, does anyone know what has happened to "Chez Vous", the place that served a variety of beers, authentic Thai food and massage?

Anyhow after being at pollys and not picking up anything, I decide to go down to tiger tavern for some fun with Yu-Mi or whatever her fucking name is.

Anyway she once again complains that she hasnt had any customers that night *cough* whatever *cough* so I say how about another 75k for bj and talking and she turns it down. Im like WTF, its not like im the incredible hulk but since im not the typical GI that walks in there and she sucks 5 times and bam he's done. She actually has to earn her money makes her disinterested. So I went whatever im not coming back then and going to spread the word.

Hell gentlemen, looks will only get you so far. But compared to the Thai women, SK prostitutes are spoilt.

I wasnt that fussed when I walked out, but I did want a massage from the place just up from Seoul pub and Nashville.

Tell you one thing, these girls must chug back shots of Soju between clients because they were NUTS! But I got a good massage and declined the happy ending, but they persisted and I said whatever. But afterwards I kinda felt dirty. The massage was only so so at that.

Anyone know what other barbershops are about in Itaewon? I thought there was on down the alley next to Geckos but i couldnt find it.

Oh and also the Barbershop said 60k cash and 70k Credit Card and I went bull shit. 65k Credit card. So she does the card, I look at it and she has charged 75k. I said gimme 10k and we will call it even. She obviously thought I was drunk and wouldnt notice.

Bah!

What a weird thread this is. Oh well, here is my 2 pence.

I love Seoul. What a city for hobbying. I have no experience at all north of the river. I always stay south in Gangnam or Jamsil/Olympic park area. The place I really like is the area just across the street form the Grand Intercontinental (nice Hotel by the way). Gotta love it. There are a lot of places with rotating barber signs. When there are more than one sign rotating, it is an AMP Korean style. Worked every time so far. You just walk in, mumble the word massage and off you go. The standard price seems to be 70,000 Won ($70).

They have a great routine: First you take your cloth off and they put you in a sort of shorts. Then you lay down on your belly, they give you a 2 minute rub and then they take the shorts of which is not easy since you lie on it. No idea what the shorts is about - maybe some legal deal.

Then they start with the serious massage business. I have massages all over the world (both types) and I have to say that I really like the Korean style. Sometimes they put a plastic sheet under you and then wrap you in a lot of hot towels and then cover you with plastic on top, thereby creating a local sauna effect. Then they walk on your back. Heaven! And it goes on and on, for about 40 - 50 minutes. Oil, hot towels, you name it. And all done in a similar way, I think the Korean guys expect a certain standard.

Then you turn around and from here I had a lot of variations. One lady offered FS or hand job, but FS consisted of a faked intercourse with her on top using her hand to simulate, you know the drill. Another (my favourite) offered mutual masturbation (she was hot!), another did hand job with prostate massge, and so on. Wonderful.

You pay the girls when you leave the 70,000 and then you tip them. Whatever you tip, they always ask for 10,000 more. Must be in their manual. So I offer them a 20,000 tip and pay 30,000 tip plus 70,000.

You do not seem to be able to chose a girl. However, they are all lovely and cute (as you can tell I like the Korean girls).

Happy hunting

Thanks Ho Man, I accept and I understand, but I took your post more as a frustrated member not wanting to keep reading the same garbage we were posting here daily.

Now that the storm appears to be over, l hope we all get the quality and informative posts we want from all posters.

Finally a note the news posters on this board, if your post are filled with nothing but asking for information and not sharing, please don't PM me asking for info, or if we can meet. My advice is to read the board, yes some of this stuff is outdated, but a lot of it is still good.


[QUOTE=Ho Man]I apologize to Run Mann - your posts are usually first class. Cute Guy 9000, some of your observations are informative - but would, perhaps, be better expressed in an "Advice and Opinions" section, as suggested by #2966. That way, this page can be reserved for what we all crave.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ho Man]I called Kim's today and asked to speak to Jean. The girl who answered told me that there are TWO Jeans (and she was one of them). I asked about the New Age Massage and she told me that it was the OTHER Jean who used to offer that service - but that it had been discontinued since January.

After further probing, she agreed that it was something best discussed with the other Jean, in person, rather than over the telephone.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to get near Itaewon for about 4 or 5 weeks, so it would be appreciated if another WSGer could test the veracity of the above paragraph sooner - and post his findings.

On another Itaewon matter, does anyone know what has happened to "Chez Vous", the place that served a variety of beers, authentic Thai food and massage?[/QUOTE]I went by Kim's to get another massage and asked about the new age again. They said no more. I thought the young lady was pulling my leg, because there is a room next to the massage room that is locked. Since there were other folks there I left. Before doing so, I asked if they did outcall and the young lady said yes, gave me the number. I called I was told it was going to be a half hour wait, she came an hour later. Went back to my place, great massage, hell, great full service. She even straightened up my place before and after her. The young lady that came gave me her number to call direct. I will.

I recently read a Joongang Ilbo piece on the spread of Bukchang-dong style room salon experience to the Kangnam area and beyond. The Korean term used for this style of wild, heavily-sexual entertainment is "hardcore" but to my understanding this means naked dancing around, getting blown openly, and perhaps some 69 action while your friends and their "partners" are singing and groping each other around the karaoke machine.

However, recently I was in Bukchang-dong at one of my usual haunts and during discussion with the "bujang" (male host/pimp) I was informed that this spread of licentious play is having an effect on Bukchang-dong as well. He says it is three years at most before Bukchang-dong becomes an in-room orgy. I can't wait.

But it might be sooner. Two weeks ago, my Bukchang-dong "partner" asked me to bring lube next time so I could fuck her ass in the room. Her friend will take photos.

[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]I went by Kim's to get another massage and asked about the new age again. They said no more. I thought the young lady was pulling my leg, because there is a room next to the massage room that is locked. Since there were other folks there I left. Before doing so, I asked if they did outcall and the young lady said yes, gave me the number. I called I was told it was going to be a half hour wait, she came an hour later. Went back to my place, great massage, hell, great full service. She even straightened up my place before and after her. The young lady that came gave me her number to call direct. I will.[/QUOTE]

Dark - how much did you pay - and was the girl one of the "Kim's" masseuses or an escort girl? How old was she, how long did she stay? Will you get a discount by calling her direct?

I am posting here because I have been having trouble posting PMs today and I am fed up trying.

Firstly, to Darren33: I am going to Seoul in a month's time, to meet with my friend from Sollaem. Together, we will try and trash out a solution to the current problem. Warning, it may require a bit more effort by punters to attain the desired product - but, hey, this IS Korea!

Secondly, to Seoul Survivor and Bike Rider: the address of the Korean site which has fucked us at Sollaem is: [url]www.bamgi.com[/url]

You will need an ID to contribute - but you do here, too (and this IS the best site, after all).

[QUOTE=Ho Man]Dark - how much did you pay - and was the girl one of the "Kim's" masseuses or an escort girl? How old was she, how long did she stay? Will you get a discount by calling her direct?[/QUOTE]She came with her massage oils and a change of clothes. I paid 200k total. She was 27. She seemed to have fallen for me and told me to call her directly. I did, paid 175K, trying to work it where I pay for either or but get both, and then where I pay nothing.

Cruised the Hill late Sunday night. Same ole skanks with a few new girls here and there. I saw a girl who use to work at the Dragon Bar (?) several years ago (it's on the left at the bottom of the hill) who, by the way, was a fine lay 2-3 years ago...always wet and willing....but last night, oh my...she has gone down hill in a big way (no pun intended).

Went in Magic and fondled a nice leggy thing but she would not go less than 100K for a bj...wtf? I told her "good luck" and that before long she'd be giving them away...

I then went across the street to Tiffany's (?) oh, Starrbutts was closed???...and shot the breeze with the 2 older ladies there...one of them practically begged me to f* her in the ass but would not go less than 200K...wtf???? I really wanted to 'cause she get rubbing her ass (bare) all over my crotch and let me butt fk her with my finger, which did get her dripping wet...but she would not go less than 200K!! aisssshhhh, mama mia....what was I to do?

went up to Fantasy and got a nice, sloppy wet CIMBJ from Miya for 40K...what a champ!!!

[QUOTE=Smoke & Mirrors]What happened to all the hype, that Kogals don't like it in the ass? This tide is changing? or just a rarity?[/QUOTE]I think the easy availability of pornographic materials, most of which are produced in the United States, Europe, and Japan (and all of which are countries with a healthy appetite for anal erotica), is changing Korean attitudes toward sex. And Koreans are pretty randy to start with.

Also, in Itaewon the demand for anal sex is stronger simply because of the foreign clientele who are also "reared" (so to speak) on pornographic videos. Supply always expands to meet demand. In Itaewon, it seems like 30% of the providers these days, and 20% of the sluts you can pick up in a disco, will take it up the ass.

O. K. , I'll submit a report and finally contribute to this wonderful site full of hints and delight.

On the contrary of what "Byoung" and "Dizz Hizz" mentioned about Jang-ahn-dong (Janghapyeoung station: purple line) in their previous posts about a month ago, I've had no luck in finding a BS that adheres to foreigners in this area.

Went there last week. Surely enough, lots of places to choose from. So, I decided to try some out. Guess what, strike one. strike two. strike three. I'm outta there; none of the 3 places I tried around the GS25 store near the subway station would allow me to get some action. They were all 3 or 4 pole places. The last mamasan/papasan(whatever) was actually a cool guy who spoke a little english, sat down with me, gave me a free Baachus, and tried explaining that his *****s don't wanna be penetrated by any Waygooks/foreigners because their penises are too big compared to Koreans. What could I do, I couldn't argue with that. Both of us were frustrated; he wanted the business and I sincerely wanted to contribute. During our conversation, he agreed to go down from 150K to 120K for FS but the girls didn't wanna do crap. I couldn't believe that he was so submissive and passive, yielding to the girl's wishes. I think there were only 2 girls there. He repeatedly entered their rooms and tried talking them into it. By this point, I didn't wanna be there so I just thanked him for the free energy drink and left. He even told me to come back some other time and try again. (huh? ). Place looked safe, he had surveillance cameras of the stairway and the parking lots leading to his establishment. This place was right around the corner from Exit #2, first alley on your left.

All these places around this area are the same. They're all called Hyu-Ge-Tel's or Hyu-Ge-Land (? ). I didn't try the Walker Hill on the 5th floor which, apparently, accepts foreigners. So, I went home with blue balls that night.

I miss the good ol' days when one could freely roam around Chongyangnee or Yongsan RLD's, not worry about the cops, and just choose the Korean nymphet of his liking. It's too risky now, the law that came into effect just scares the shit out of me. Barber Shops are safer but more difficult to gain entrance/acceptance.

I'll try Gangnam this weekend and post my adventures.

"Seek and you shall find". hopefully.

The Guru

Happy Camper,

Sorry to hear about your unfortunate event when visiting Jang Ahn Dong.

Unfoprtunately, maybe I haven't explained my background, but I am a "kyopo" (Korean American) and thus finding and entering these premises are not a problem for me.

I think that your next adventure in Kangnam should be prosperous if your willing to shell out the money. No one should have to go home with blue balls if they don't have to, given the right financial situation.

Wish you luck.

DH

Happy Guru,

It seems you went to the place I go to. Hyu-Ge Land. I didn't know the owner spoke English, then again, I always speak Korean with him. I recall mentioning in a previous report that foreigners (or non-Korean/Japanese/etc) might not get serviced in the area.

As for the girls there, there are quite a few, but I haven't seen any really hot ones yet. Most of them are doable though, with a few "hoggish" ones in the mix as well. Why I go there is because right outside there's taxi's waiting, there's food next door, and I've never been anywhere else. Habit, I guess.

Anyway, too bad you couldn't get serviced there. I find it a great alternative to the RLD's, which I have no idea what's going on with those right now.

I am planning on going back to Jangan-Dong tomorrow, will do another report if I do go. I'm also going to Qingdao, China in a few weeks, will report on that in the Chinese section.

PS: What is going on with the RLD's now? I have a few friends coming soon and they have never been to 588, and are really dying to go, even if just to check it out.

It was a slow night on the hill. MP's were everywhere.

I talked Mya (fantasy) into a full service for 60,0000. what a sport. she played you 15min will me, the I was on it for a long time.

That you Military Police!

Tim

Guys,

There is a fairly large article in the Korea Herald today about the sex business here in Seoul. It did state that it was still indeed operational despite the laws. It covered two different aspects of the sex/entertainment services, from the Itaewon side to the red light districts.

Anyways, good reading material if you decide to take a shit.

DH

Just curious.

Which of you boys rides that black Harley that was parked right in front of Itaewon's Fantsy this (Sunday) afternoon?

Whoever it was, THANK YOU~

Deciding not to wait around till Miya is finished with Easy Rider, I drove to Yongsan and was suprised to find a pretty good B-row crew ready to tango.

:-)

Just wondering, what are Miya's hours at Fantasy? I've gone past there during the nights and found no one about. Does she work days?

I'm going to Korea this summer and I wonder how the action is in the RLD nowadays? Is it secure to go there or are other options better?

I was at Yongsan last year and had a good time! Also tried to find 588, but think I went to the wrong cheongnyangni. Which one is it, the station number 125 or K125?

I'm a sucker for good looks. Where are my best options?

Aren't there any WSG members in Seoul who want to do Bukchang-dong?

[QUOTE=SeoulSurvivor]Aren't there any WSG members in Seoul who want to do Bukchang-dong?[/QUOTE]What the hell is that? I am in Seoul, and love to experiment, but not sure what that would be?

LOL.

Tim

[QUOTE=SeoulSurvivor]Aren't there any WSG members in Seoul who want to do Bukchang-dong?[/QUOTE]I just saw the report on the other thread. Damn soeulsurvivor, you are the man. Where is this place? I am in Gangnam-gu. Nonhyeon-dong. love to visit this place. What will it cost me for some fun there?

Tim

Where is Buk-chang dong? I've looked at my map and cannot find this place. What is significant about this area of Seoul?

Guys,

Yes, the infamous Buk-Chang-Dong. To find all the excitement, you need to wander in the area near the Seoul Plaza Hotel (actually behind it), nearby City Hall. There are numerous Business Clubs in the proximity and simply look for the neon lights in the back alleys. To give you a better sense of directions, look for the Outback Steakhouse and just wander around and you cannot miss it.

Mu-gyu-Dong also has it's fair share of Business Clubs with the so called Buk-Chang-Dong flavor, offering a mix concoction of whiskey and beers (pok-tan-ju) and a blow job at the end with your buddies in the same room. I'm sure all you guys are aware that going to these clubs is common business practice amongst Korean companies.

Seoul Survivor - I'm very happy to see your contributions in the photo section. As most of us would love to entertain the thought of going to one of these very fine establishments, it's the initial cost that will set me back as many others. These places are usually charged on the corporate expense as I recall it will run about KRW 200,000 minimum a head (also need to tip).

Although I do have to say that I work around the Mu-gyu-Dong area and when I go home at about 7 pm, these working girls are just starting their day and I simply turn my heads when they pass by. I would love to simply fuck those girls in a heart beat.

Even crazier, the more upscale Room Saloons in Kangnam will provide the top girls in Korea, no doubt. Simply gorgeous girls who will not play as dirty and will give you the biggest blue balls in your life. Of course, to sit and drink with these girls it will cost you, anywhere from KRW 500,000 to even a whopping KRW 1.5 million per head.

And of course some arrangements can be made to go to round two for an additional lump sum that might put a teacher on a strict kim-bap dietary plan for the remaining days of his salary month.

Every man needs to experience the Business Clubs here in Korea if money is not an issue.

DH

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Yes, the infamous Buk-Chang-Dong. To find all the excitement, you need to wander in the area near the Seoul Plaza Hotel (actually behind it), nearby City Hall. There are numerous Business Clubs in the proximity and simply look for the neon lights in the back alleys. To give you a better sense of directions, look for the Outback Steakhouse and just wander around and you cannot miss it.[/QUOTE]One of the challenges of the Bukchang-dong room salons is the fact that many of them -- at least, when I was younger -- initially refuse entry to foreigners. It took going with Korean friends to gain entry, and then after proving my bona fides I have been welcomed back ever since.

The real concern for them is that nobody there speaks English, so your Korean ought to be real good (actually not so much a problem, as I do know girls there who speak English, some real well), but also it is generally feared that you, Mr. Foreigner, won't understand their pricing or the fact that a fuck is not guaranteed (indeed, it's not on the program at all) and will cause a scene, possibly hurting someone and bringing unwanted police into the house.

Thanks, 2ID soldiers!

The service definitely is better if you can connect with the girls, so Korean helps a lot. But, if you go with a group that has a larger proportion of Korean speakers you'll be okay. My recommendation also is that no Korean males come with you -- your service will initially be inhibited by their presence and the implied social disapproval of "our women" diddling with the foreigners. You know, since we all have AIDS and all. (If it's all foreigners, you can have a really good time.)

[QUOTE]Seoul Survivor - I'm very happy to see your contributions in the photo section. As most of us would love to entertain the thought of going to one of these very fine establishments, it's the initial cost that will set me back as many others. These places are usually charged on the corporate expense as I recall it will run about KRW 200,000 minimum a head (also need to tip).[/QUOTE]I would recommend you plan on W250,000 - W400,000 apiece. (Better to have pocket money going home than to run out early.) The initial program is 90 minutes, but extending it another 90 is oh-so-delightful.

[QUOTE]Even crazier, the more upscale Room Saloons in Kangnam will provide the top girls in Korea, no doubt. Simply gorgeous girls who will not play as dirty and will give you the biggest blue balls in your life. Of course, to sit and drink with these girls it will cost you, anywhere from KRW 500,000 to even a whopping KRW 1.5 million per head.

And of course some arrangements can be made to go to round two for an additional lump sum that might put a teacher on a strict kim-bap dietary plan for the remaining days of his salary month.[/QUOTE]The Kangnam yi-cha (2d round) fare is, I hear, only about W200,000 - W250,000. In context, that's pretty reasonable once you're already in for millions.

Seoul Survivor,

Perhaps you may not want to share this information, but if you do, can you tell me the name of the club that you have blessed this Seoul forum with?

Do you also get those stupid text messages at about 5:30 pm everyday from the madams as well?

LOL.

Thanks in advance.

DH

[QUOTE=Durianfan]Just wondering, what are Miya's hours at Fantasy? I've gone past there during the nights and found no one about. Does she work days?[/QUOTE]I think she starts at about noon and goes home around midnight or 0100.

Good for a quick beer and a BJ.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Perhaps you may not want to share this information, but if you do, can you tell me the name of the club that you have blessed this Seoul forum with?[/QUOTE]You got that right. I won't write it down here in this open forum (de po-po can read too), but perhaps one day we can drop by together. Since it's cheaper by the dozen, I would like to organize a WSG get-together. If we are diligent, we can probably organize an outing like the "Brown Sugar" KTV runs in Singapore. (Maybe for that it's better to rent a room at some mountain resort and import talent.)

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Do you also get those stupid text messages at about 5:30 pm everyday from the madams as well?[/QUOTE]What do you mean? I thought I was special!

I'm up for hitting a Bukchang-dong room salon with anybody who wants to go. Also if anybody knows when Deja Vu in Itaewon or that hostess bar next door will have a lingerie or costume party, please post here.

I was over by Yongsan this morning around 11am so I decided to make the rounds. I was walking down the main street (which runs past Sookmyung down to the river and over to Sangdo tunnel) when I saw a cutie on B row??? in a short, white skirt, small yellow top, and those knee hi frilly stockings which give me a boner just by looking at them. Hmmm, what the hell?!

I walk over to test the waters and she smiles when she sees me coming and as I get to the doorstep she opens the door with a big smile on her face. I ask her if she takes waygooks and she shakes her head "yes." After a little negotiating, she agrees to 60K (down from 100K), which is probably a little too much but it's 11am on a Sunday morning and I am getting horny just looking at her shapely legs in those stockings.

I go in and she washes me up and proceeds to give me a very sloppy wet bj (uncovered) for about 5 minutes. She was pretty darn good...I really wanted to cum in her mouth but...another day.

Anyway, we proceed to the mattress, we strip and she has the cutest little titties, firm and round with cherry red nipples...and a flat belly to boot...damn, i start thinking she's about 16yo but she tells me she's 20.

Before I know it she's riding on top and we switch around for some doggy and missionary. We change a few more times (she likes missionary, she says, because I can get deeper and she likes watching my face while we fuck)...she's pretty darn wet for an industry worker and so I ride her for about 20 minutes (the damn clock's running) before I start to cum. But just before, she turns all red and starts shaking and I swear she came as well...she got nice and sloppy....maybe a potential squirter!!!!! gotta work on her again...

We cleaned up and she asked me to cum back again soon.... I may take her up on that...

A very nice way to begin my Sunday!!

Saw an underground report where club owners in and around the Hill area are starting to refuse access to the MP/CPs into their establishment claiming harassment. Some club owners are even assaulting the MP/CPs by pushing them out the door or putting their hands in their chest denying them access to the club. I'm actually surprise this type of conflict took so long to get to this point. After all this curfew/crackdown stuff has really put a financial dent in some of these businesses to the point where they have had to close shop. The Military is alleging that some of these clubs are harboring curfew violators and protecting them. Really?

Mya is not getting enough business lately, this is the second Sunday in as many weeks that she has called me, but I was occupied with my very nosy and jealous GF who's trying to put the clamps down on me these days. For Mongers inquiring about Mya, Sundays seems to be the best day to visit that Salad Tosser.

It's been a while I've been on here. Sorry I haven't been as active these past few months as I was last year! I notice a lot of the same names on here everytime I check the site out.

Perhaps it's time for a WSG meet? Perhaps go out, eat, drink, then maybe head to a MP or go for some room salon action? It's just an idea for now, but hey, why not, right? A bunch of different guys from all different backgrounds, all brought together by the need for play.

I'm not good at organizing things, and I wouldn't really know how to get it started. In my opinion, a room salon would probably be the best thing, but that is an area where I know little about. Perhaps some more experienced WSG members can figure this one out.

Before we even get into any of that, is anyone even interested in this?

So let's see who's down, and we'll go from there.

[QUOTE=Byung]Perhaps it's time for a WSG meet?

Before we even get into any of that, is anyone even interested in this?

So let's see who's down, and we'll go from there.[/QUOTE]I'm up for it!

I don't live in Korea but will be in Korea from 9.july-5.august. I will be away from Seoul 1 week, most likely between 14-21 july. I'm a Korean adoptee living in Norway.

[QUOTE=Byung]... is anyone even interested in this?[/QUOTE]I am interested and in particular would be very enthusiatic about the room salon option.

In the photo section I saw some photos of Red light districts in Seoul.

I will be in Seoul at the end of June for some days. Are there any RLD
in the area of the Hyatt hotel, or what is the best to go if the time is short?

Thank you for any recommendadtions. Report will follow.

Hi,

I'm in Korea in early August until the end of the month. Have been lurking on this site for a while and whilst I am Korean, I can't speak the lingo. Any help whilst I am out there will go down a treat. If you guys arrange a meet, would be interested too.

Frank,

Nice hotel. Unfortunately there are no red light districts in the immediate area but you do have Itaewon and the infamous hooker hill. Read previous posts to get more information.

Any cab driver can take you to these red light districts and the service is either hit or miss. You also need to take account of your skin color as well, as some rows may or may not service you. It's unfortunate but I'm sure some members on the Seoul board have experienced this before.

As for short time means, your best bet is to go to a massage parlour unless you happen to find some lovely meat on the street, but the chances are unlikely.

Have fun in this city and use this forum as a guide.

DH

For any one who would like to go, I'm taking a trip to Angeles City Philippines from the 9th thru the 17th of Sept. Flight will be into Clark Airfield so we don't have to do the two hour ride from the airport thing. Price: around $420 round trip. I have already reserved a room at the Orchid Inn, right smack in the middle of all the action. A few other friends are going so there are three of us right now. You don't even have to stay the whole eight days. Just book your flight accordingly. If you want to go, hit me with a PM for details.

Yella Man

I'll be in in AC the same time (taking the OZ flight into CLK as well and am also staying at the Orchid).

Too bad the Wild Orchid (also owned by Orchid, right on Santos Str.) construction weren't able to open on time, wouldda been great.

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Fellas,

I have a 12 hour layover in Seoul en route to the LOS the 23 of June. I come with a hard dick, and a thirst too fuck!. Any suggestions on were to go? As of now I am RTTF and the only place that comes to mind is Itaewon. Would that be the best bet? any "streetmeat"(hookers working the street for the ones who don't get it) in that vicinity?

Thanks for the help

[b] MeatMan[/b]

I finally did Miya at Fantasy in Iteawan. Stopped by at around 11:50 pm Friday night and she was standing outside the club. Asked her if her name was Miya and she looked surprised and invited me into the club. You know the rest from previous posts by other punters. 40,000 won changed hands, some titties were sucked, I took my pants off and she gave me some excellent head. She even layed down on the couch and let me gently fuck her mouth. Took my load all over her tits! Great women! I'll go back again and see what else she has to offer.

I stayed at the Hilltop Motel at the top of the Hooker Hill that night and noticed that Fantasy Club was still open at 10:45 am when I checked out this morning. Maybe business is bad and she needs the cash or maybe she gets more customers at odd hours because of the MP's and what not. Who knows, who cares, as long as she stays open for business at that price with that kind of good service.

Yella Man

Meatman, your best bet is to find a taxi driver tout at the airport who speaks halfway decent english and ask him to take you to some poojee (pussy in Korean) close by. Make sure he knows you only have a few hours. Don't head to Iteawan. Korea is changing so there is no streetmeat to be had there quickly anymore. If you do go to Iteawan just hit Starrbuts or any of the other clubs around Hooker Hill near the Hamilton Hotel, and tell the girls your ready to fuck and not play games or buy juice. Eventually you'll find what your looking for. You can try Yongsan RLD at Yongsan Station, but as a foreigner you gotta stick to the B row girls on the side streets. Some B's look pretty hot, but most look like old female dogs that have given birth to too many puppies. You'll learn quickly who the A's vs B's are when you get snubbed by the A row main street girls. Anyway, I hope you make the best of your twelve hours here.

Yella Man

Thanks Yella, Ok I will scratch Iteawon. You mentioned "close by" well, what's close by? In the meantime I'll RTTF again to see for myself what's available.

The In and Out are no longer doing foreigners. Fuck.

[QUOTE=MeatMan]Fellas,

I have a 12 hour layover in Seoul en route to the LOS the 23 of June. I come with a hard dick, and a thirst too fuck!. Any suggestions on were to go? As of now I am RTTF and the only place that comes to mind is Itaewon. Would that be the best bet? any "streetmeat"(hookers working the street for the ones who don't get it) in that vicinity?

Thanks for the help

[b] MeatMan[/b][/QUOTE]

Twelve hours. Not long enough, I don't think. Well, it's possible, but it'll be tiring. Since you'll arrive at ICN (Incheon Int'l), conservatively think about an hour and a half to get to Itaewon. Though if it's around 5-6am, it will take less than an hour. Then you can go to "the hill". I've only been there twice, and never did play there. The girls weren't my type.

Or, from what I read on here, you can try the Yongsan RLD. I've walked through only once with a female cousin, just to look around. Never partaken in any play there.

Miari might be a bit far, and it's been ages since I've been there. Jangan-dong is where I go now, but from what I've read here, no foreigners are accepted there.

I think Itaewon is your best bet. There's also "Yellow House" in Incheon. I've never been there, but I've only heard about this place. Just ask a cab driver about "Yellow House". Don't know if they take foreigners, but you can try there, and if you can't get it there, I suggest head to Itaewon.

'The In and Out are no longer doing foreigners. Fuck.'

What's going on? After 'Friends', 'In and Out' are refusing service to foreigners? so who are their customers then, as they're located in Itaewon?

Where are you guys going to get that kind of service these days?

[QUOTE=Darren 33]'The In and Out are no longer doing foreigners. Fuck.'

What's going on? After 'Friends', 'In and Out' are refusing service to foreigners? so who are their customers then, as they're located in Itaewon?

Where are you guys going to get that kind of service these days?[/QUOTE]Dunno Darren,

It's embarrassing enough entering those places, and dodgy to boot so perhaps it's a blessing in disguise. It was only a bloody hand-job, I can do that myself. Just a bit annoying, not having that option to treat myself to someone else doing it.

If I had to take care of business in Korea with 12 hour layover, I would go to a massage parlor (An-Ma). I saw a few near the airport, within 15 min by taxi. I haven't tried these places so can't tell you the quality but the repertoire is the same. W160-180,000 and it gets you about 2 hours of bath (or jacuzzi), body-to-body rub, FS, etc.

I am sure you will be relaxed and ready for the real combat in LOS.

Going into Seoul not only takes time but you will also pay more for the transportation.

Yes In and Out has gone native only, but there's many more of these type massage joints still available. There's a comparable Massage place right across the street from the entrance area going towards the Youngsan RLD/Electronic Market. Take the number 4 train to Sinyonsan Station when you exit the station walk right and the place is about two shops down. There are two spinning barber signs in front of the building. You have to go up to the 2d-floor (2F). Everything is written in Korean though, from the sign outside that reads "Massage" to the menu. Prices start at 40,000W all the way up to 150,000.W depending on the type of massage you select.

The two girls I saw were pretty enough but again, spoke no English, I actually wanted the slimmer one to service me, but I guess it was this girl's turn, but she had a very pleasant persona and smiled a lot when she talked. I had the oil Massage for 80,000W. They have about 10 to 15 cubicles/partition off and the girl said foreigners are welcome.

First she told me to change into the shorts and shirt on the bed and then ten minutes later she took them both off and oiled me down, at the end she asked if I wanted a HJ for 20,000W, I offered her 10,000 and she accepted. She's stroking and my hands are roaming, she has tiny tits, so I went downstairs and she claimed to be on the rag, this seem to be a good ploy for the girls who don't want you to practice your gynecological skills on them. I told her I would be back next week when she was off the rag and she laughed. Overall a very pleasant unrushed experience.

There's also a massage shop across from the KAYA hotel, Spinning barber sign in the front of the building, with the typical barber shop massage and HJ in the guise of a BJ from a cute chubby chick for 50.000W.

[QUOTE=Tahoe]If I had to take care of business in Korea with 12 hour layover, I would go to a massage parlor (An-Ma). I saw a few near the airport, within 15 min by taxi. I haven't tried these places so can't tell you the quality but the repertoire is the same. W160-180,000 and it gets you about 2 hours of bath (or jacuzzi), body-to-body rub, FS, etc.

I am sure you will be relaxed and ready for the real combat in LOS.

Going into Seoul not only takes time but you will also pay more for the transportation.[/QUOTE]

I get this feeling that it wouldn't be worth it..None the less I'll be around Seoul checking out the scenes and if anything comes about I'll be sure to post it..thanks for the info guys!

[b]MeatMan[/b]

not strictly a HC run, but I was wondering if anyone would want
to go to Korean clubs (dance clubs and such) this Saturday evening June 18th.

We were hoping for a local to help with the table invites.

Anyone?

Thanks!

I'm wondering if the RLD's are safe to visit these days? Is the crack down over?

I asked the same question around 2 weeks ago, but got no answers. I don't know if that is because nobody knows for sure.

Does anyone know?

Officially the crackdown is still in effect and the Cops are still around albeit not in the same force as they were when it first started. However, You can get serviced safely without being hassled by the Cops. Yongsan RLD is up and running and many of the girls are back to touting their regular hooker presentations, there's a variety of factors that may decide which girl provides service to you, (race, dress, presentation, etc).


[QUOTE=Mojoman74]I'm wondering if the RLD's are safe to visit these days? Is the crack down over?

I asked the same question around 2 weeks ago, but got no answers. I don't know if that is because nobody knows for sure.

Does anyone know?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Yongsan RLD is up and running and many of the girls are back to touting their regular hooker presentations, there's a variety of factors that may decide which girl provides service to you, (race, dress, presentation, etc).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer Run Man. I don't think getting serviced is a problem since I am an adopted korean. I had no problems last year at least.

Anyone know if 588 is up and running. Didn't get the chance to visit it last year. Would like to go there this year. Which cheongnangy(probably misspelled) station is the correct one?

Had a great time at Yongsan last Thursday night. The main road had some great talent so I picked the first hottie I saw. I paid 70,000 won, but I think someone else on this board managed 60,000. The chick tried to stick her tongue down my throat and i wasn't having any of that. I simply told her that I didn't want her to fall in love with me so i wouldn't embarass her. anyway, I ended up pretty quick that night so I actually had some time to ask her some questions about the popo. Apparently, they've laid off on the crackdowns since these girls were pretty damn adamant during the demonstrations. Also, they say if you look pretty young, any cop that would be around wouldn't bust you. They also said that the main road does not service foreigners (only korean and japanese), but the back alleys did. on the way back, I asked a cabbie how miyari and 588 were doing these days. he told me not to go to 588 but that miyari was picking back up again.

I'm kinda new to seoul and have no idea what to do at these barber shops. Is it that I can go into any barbershop with two poles side by side in Seoul, or is it just certain ones? What's the protocol after that?

Guys,

I am looking for something a bit more cheap something in the range of 50,000 to 60,000 won. Any recommendations? I do have a 12 hour layover and I have short attention span. Again, any info would be appreicated

In the meatime....R'ing TTF now.

If you have never tried one of the local neighborhood non-descript multiple barber pole establishments, here's my story.

One night I was out with friends, got back to my place (in the Jeki-dong area) at 4AM, horny. With 80,000 won in my pocket, I decided to go walking. I came across a place with a lot of barber poles spinning, more than four as I recall. Went in.

It was dead; the two women in the place were asleep. The one who answered the knock (door was open) was in her mid-40s, thin, fair to say a 6 in looks.

The place was small; I counted about 4 stalls with beads hanging down with roller-types screens installed. She quoted 100,0000 but all I had was 80 so I gave it to her and that was no problem. She rousted up another woman, definitely worse looking, late 40s and that was generous. But, not fat, but a 4. Whatever, I was in for the experience.

I was motioned to change into a smock. Waited a little while she did whatever (heating towels I imagine) then got a massage, basically a lot of rubbing on the legs and arms. Then got towels put on me and the technician disappeared for awhile. Laid there on my stomach awhile, getting as hot as hell. Someone did stop by the entrance, as I heard a man’s voice. I figured some Korean spotted me entering and called to cops out of spite.

But that conversation died down and no other customer entered from what I heard. My technician came back, removes the towels, then rolled the white shade screen down. I had stashed a condom in the shelf for easy access when I changed into the smock, but that proved unnecessary. She produced one and I was so fitted. No BJ by the way and no kising thank goodness. After purely mechanical intercourse cow girl style, the deed was done. Got cleaned up, she disappeared and I changed (and retrieved my unused condom).

The two women had a lot of smiles as I left, with the obligatory “Do-o-ship-shi-yo” and I am sure they went right to bed.

If you are dying to visit this place (doubtful and I am sure there are many more in your reading area) the directions are as follows. Go to Historical site # 361 (King Sejong Memorial Center, the Congnamul map says Yeonghwiwon), go south until you get to a major intersection, called Hongueug, then hang a left. Walk to the next major intersection. The place is on the right going west; all the barber poles are a spinning. The place is in the basement. Maybe they have better looking women in the early night time but I doubt it.

Hello all. I've been trolling the boards here for a while and have gotten some good advice. I'm finally moving to Seoul this weekend. I hope to be able to be regular provider of info for others.

Happy Hunting,

Jay

Jayemm: Cool. I just moved out here 3 weeks ago from la. happy hunting.

Snas: I heard those places were 40,000 no? and do the establishments have to have 4 barber poles or is 2 side by side just fine? There's 2 side by side near my neighborhood i want to check out. do i just walk in and they know?

Anyway, I went to a great Jadgie Massagie place the other day called Izzy with my friend near Kangnamno (?). I'd have to check it again. I never used to be of fan of these places cause i figured why not go and get the whole shabbam for the same price (70,000). They just give you a great massage and a hj at the end. The total time spent with shower is about an hour. These are all college students who need the extra spending cash but who are too afraid to do the deed. i didn't see anyone under 25 over there. this is not your regular hj place you find in america. in this day and age, these girls have this procedure down to an artform. the technique, the teaser spots, the body oils. an overall great massage.

I also asked if foreigners were allowed at this place and she said she didn't see why not.

Right now i'm saving up some cash for ace anma. 180,000 for 2 great hours. i last visited that place sometime back in february. does anyone still know if its around? Also, i tried to post a pretty lengthy version of this very same post. i pressed submit and it didn't go through. pressed the back button and everythying i had written was wiped out. just remember with this bulletin, sometimes you have to copy and paste your posts just in case this sort of thing happens to you guys. good luck and happy hunting out there.

[QUOTE=AMPM]Had a great time at Yongsan last Thursday night. The main road had some great talent so I picked the first hottie I saw. I paid 70,000 won, but I think someone else on this board managed 60,000. The chick tried to stick her tongue down my throat and i wasn't having any of that. I simply told her that I didn't want her to fall in love with me so i wouldn't embarass her. anyway, I ended up pretty quick that night so I actually had some time to ask her some questions about the popo. Apparently, they've laid off on the crackdowns since these girls were pretty damn adamant during the demonstrations. Also, they say if you look pretty young, any cop that would be around wouldn't bust you. They also said that the main road does not service foreigners (only korean and japanese), but the back alleys did. on the way back, I asked a cabbie how miyari and 588 were doing these days. he told me not to go to 588 but that miyari was picking back up again.

I'm kinda new to seoul and have no idea what to do at these barber shops. Is it that I can go into any barbershop with two poles side by side in Seoul, or is it just certain ones? What's the protocol after that?[/QUOTE]I was in Yongsan last night. i went to the RLD across from the station, it was about 2 am, but lots to choose from. i got a little hottie for about 70,000. she was real sweet and had bif natural breasts for a Korean woman. i enjoyed it, i will return for more. she was riding like a champ.

i did not see any action on the main road. was just wondering, was i in the wrong place? but it was good to be there!

See ya

So whats the average price for the B Rows in Yongsan. Like how much for how long.

Like I dont think that much with my dick when it comes to this hobby. Im about to head out and debating whether to pay 60k for a lay in Yongsan or 40k for head at Fantasy.

What would you choose?

[QUOTE=Nedski]So whats the average price for the B Rows in Yongsan. Like how much for how long.

Like I dont think that much with my dick when it comes to this hobby. Im about to head out and debating whether to pay 60k for a lay in Yongsan or 40k for head at Fantasy.

What would you choose?[/QUOTE]I was quoted 70k for the B Rows in Yongsan. I didn't try to bargain, as I was just looking, much to the chagrin of the pushy ajummas around. You get 20 minutes.

As to your other question, well, it depends on what kind of experience you want. If you want a straight-up fuck with a hot girl, go to Yongsan. If you want a massage and a HJ or BJ (possibly) from an ajumma, go to a MP. Miya at Fantasy is another thing entirely. She's often very busy on the weekends, but if you do get her she's very nice. But don't expect FS if it's your first time. Hope this helps.

In that article? What are those? Where do I call?

So anyway I went ahead to Yongsan, hit the B rows.

Oh my god, I couldnt believe what I found. A cute little spinner with a sexy face and body and attitude.

She wanted 70k and I wasnt gonna argue. But I was worried she was gonna be a 15 min deal but turns out I got 30 mins.

Started off with a BBBJ for a few mins before the condom came out and she started riding. Had these nice mirrors on the walls so I could see her bouncing around on top.

I swear to god she came twice and she was tight as anything. I think towards the end she was a bit of a clock watcher but just seeing her hot body bent over in front of me. Oh wow.

Like the *****s on the hill, i usually have to finish myself off and I thought it was my fault, but this girl at Yongsan, I had no trouble coming. She was beautiful to look at.

She was 21 and her name was Hyun Jun. After it was up, I tipped her 10k and she was surprised. I will definately be hitting that again.

But seriously, leave the *****s on the hill alone. They are overpaid spoilt monsters compared to the honeys at Yongsan!

[QUOTE=Nedski]But seriously, leave the *****s on the hill alone. They are overpaid spoilt monsters compared to the honeys at Yongsan![/QUOTE]Totally agree. The *****s on the hill usually want 2 or 3 times as much, and they're not nearly as hot (although they'll usually let you kiss them).

I haven't sampled the wares at Yongsan yet. Honestly, I'm a bit worried, with the crackdown and everything. I've only got a few more weeks left in my contract, and I'd be a real dumbass to get myself deported in the last week. Am I right to be worried?

Well in this case I quote AFN.

Be aware of your surroundings.

Before I went in I looked around to see if there were any cops in an unmarked car. Thats how they usually work apparently.

But the doors are locked as well, so like they would have to bang to get in. By that time you have time to get dressed and lay on the bed pretending you know the girl and are watching TV.

Stopped by the Fantasy last night at around 11:00pm and the door was locked but the light was on. Does it usually open late after curfew to keep out the GIs? Had a buddy with me that needed some action and was going to go back at 5 but couldn't get myself out of bed.

Any non-Korean who managed to get some Yongsan A-row action? If yes, what side, and what time?

Mya doesn't have conventional hours, but around 11:00pm, if the doors are locked and the light are on, she's more than likely in there making her money. She's always complaining about the CPs, but doesn't want them to put her off limits, so she tolerates their annoyance and accepts GIs, especially the ones breaking curfew.

There's a real skankisk type girl working in the First Class Club giving Mya a real run for her money (or your money) in the bargain department. BBBJ for W40,000.00, personnally I wouldn't do any things else with that chick. She's not as beautiful, whatever that means or as refined as Mya, in fact you may say she's a bit callous, but does her best to please.

They have a clandestine spot in the club if you want to do business there, but the atmosphere is kinda spooky.

[QUOTE=Darren 33]Any non-Korean who managed to get some Yongsan A-row action? If yes, what side, and what time?[/QUOTE]

Dude, read my post again. I said B Row. But there was an A-row qualifer there. I cant stop thinking about her. I honestly wish I had never gone because its torture knowing im only gonna get laid with a girl like that at 70k a pop!

Well, myself and a friend of mine managed to locate and explore the Yong San RLD at 8 in the morning. I was really surprised by what I saw on 'A' row. The few girls that were out were some of the hottest korea girls I've seen in my combined 3 years here. So, what's the hang up with not allowing foreigners on 'A' row? Is it just the price? Looked around 'B' row too but didn't see much of anything that looked good...then again, the sun was in my eyes. They did seem more friendly though; saying "hi" constantly like I'm a deaf person or something. Going to give it a look later on today and see if I can manage to make it through 'A' row without drooling too much. Might even wear a shirt with buttons.

They get looked down upon if they are seen going with a foreigner. Koreans have penis envy. They like their women pure.

This one I saw on B row was awesome man, total A row quality. Kinda makes you wanna be korean to check out the A row.

Went to 588 tonight for the first time, not how I imagined it. We got a taxi driver to go thru and do the rounds so we can do the tour. Some hot girls there, but didnt see any in costumes tho which kinda sucked! :(

Anyone know where the sex shows are so we can go check them out, or if some people wanna group up and go see one together. Maybe that could work.

Given all my experiences at RLDs here in Korea (588, Miari, Yong San, Youido, etc.), not to mention only going for A rows being a Kyopo, let me tell all you gentlemen that the service is purely shit.

Of course I've seen some drop dead gorgeous girls working those stalls but a face can only take you so far. Maybe perhaps I like fucking these girls doggy and reverse cowboy style that a beautiful face does not look as good as a nice piece of trim inhaling my dick but to each is own.

Its been about 3 years as I last visited these places and I still have no desire to go. Even some of my coworkers went all the way to Yong-Ju-Geul, a KRW 20,000 cab ride from Ilsan, the most notorious of the RLDs, yet their expectations were let down as service was merely mediocre and the basic 30 second suck and 2 minute fuck was all to desribe of the place.

RLDs are excellent eye candy but for services, drop the additional funds and get a scrubbing while your at it.

DH

That would be miyari. and they are dressed up in "costumes". they are just dresses. I thought 588 was dead as in a doornail.

[QUOTE=Nedski]They get looked down upon if they are seen going with a foreigner. Koreans have penis envy. They like their women pure.

This one I saw on B row was awesome man, total A row quality. Kinda makes you wanna be korean to check out the A row.

Went to 588 tonight for the first time, not how I imagined it. We got a taxi driver to go thru and do the rounds so we can do the tour. Some hot girls there, but didnt see any in costumes tho which kinda sucked! :(

Anyone know where the sex shows are so we can go check them out, or if some people wanna group up and go see one together. Maybe that could work.[/QUOTE]

I had no idea there was an RLD in Youido. Can you tell me exactly where? I love these places for the price.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Given all my experiences at RLDs here in Korea (588, Miari, Yong San, Youido, etc.), not to mention only going for A rows being a Kyopo, let me tell all you gentlemen that the service is purely shit.

Of course I've seen some drop dead gorgeous girls working those stalls but a face can only take you so far. Maybe perhaps I like fucking these girls doggy and reverse cowboy style that a beautiful face does not look as good as a nice piece of trim inhaling my dick but to each is own.

Its been about 3 years as I last visited these places and I still have no desire to go. Even some of my coworkers went all the way to Yong-Ju-Geul, a KRW 20,000 cab ride from Ilsan, the most notorious of the RLDs, yet their expectations were let down as service was merely mediocre and the basic 30 second suck and 2 minute fuck was all to desribe of the place.

RLDs are excellent eye candy but for services, drop the additional funds and get a scrubbing while your at it.

DH[/QUOTE]

visited your fine city last weekend and stayed at the novotel in gangnam. i visited a double-twirly-barbershop-pole place just down the road, with favorable results. i have no idea what the place is called, but from the front of the novotel, turn right and walk for about 5 minutes, and right before you hit the first light, look across the street for the double-twirly-barbershop-poles in front of a dark awning.

i speak zero korean, which was not a problem. (i managed to get by in english and a bit of nihongo.) the routine is pretty close to what has been described by others: lie down, girl comes in, she washes your feet and gives about a 20 minute massage, you go take a shower, and visit a separate chamber of whoppee. in said chamber, it starts with a tongue bath, followed by cbj and full service whoppee.

my spermatozoa extraction assistant was a 25 year-old spinner with dark skin, long hair and cute face. while i was getting the massage, a second girl (also 20s and cute) came in and asked if i wanted 2 girls – i declined, but fyi, it's on the menu. service was pretty good, not rushed. i went back a second time the next day and had the same girl – she was friendlier and i was in there for about 70 minutes. total damage: kw100,000.

one last thought: i was in seoul for a wedding. i donated spermatozoa right before i left for the wedding, which made the wedding service and the interminable post-wedding reception actually somewhat bearable.

Was it 100,000 each day or 100,000 for the two days? If its 50,000 I'll be going there every day next month while i'm there. The dollar finally seems to be going up this week.

Dollar's coming down, according to Fx futures. But it'll still be KW100,000 per visit.

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]Given all my experiences at RLDs here in Korea (588, Miari, Yong San, Youido, etc.), not to mention only going for A rows being a Kyopo, let me tell all you gentlemen that the service is purely shit.

RLDs are excellent eye candy but for services, drop the additional funds and get a scrubbing while your at it.[/QUOTE]Brother Dizz Hizz is absolutely correct. The RLD service is the lowest assembly-line service going. For a small premium you can get a much better experience in a barber shop or turkish sauna.

Im going to Seoul. Read many different postings, with varied information. I don't want to through off any fee scales so can one of the vets tell me the following.
1) going prices for BBBJ, FS, etc...
2) info on the RLD, "specialty clubs", and in calls

Thanks in advance
If any of you decide to hit the midwest or east coast let me know i'll return the favor

Member 1731,

I guess in this land prices vary according to skin color, eye shape and probably most importantly your personal network. Although I have never received head from the Itaewon establishments and from the infamous Miya everyone hear so dearly considers for just KRW 40,000, just have that ATM card ready at your disposal.

At the lower end spectrum, from RLD's and BBS, be expected to bring at least KRW 80,000. At the extreme polar opposite, you could merely drop over a million for the high end business clubs (I intuition tells me you will not be visiting these establishments) and a second round at a motel. You can even get in call service from KRW 120,000 - 150,000 by looking at your local Korean-English newspaper advertisements.

And of course there is free sex depending on your conversation skills but that might cost you a dinner, some alcohol and a motel fee.

Sky's the limit here in this land. Just bring your wallet and have that card at all times.

DH

Anyone can guide me to a good barbershop that cost under 80k? I been to some but need to know if there's somewhere better.

BTW how much do usually Turkey bath costs? any nice place?

yes, i would like some clarification on these barber shops as well. i went to a place with 2 poles side by side and they said it was a room salon. should i be looking for anything written in korean? from what i know, "eeh-bahl-gwan" would mean a REAL as in a LEGIT barber shop. would that be the same name i should be looking for out here?

also, i went to oasis anma the other night with a friend. i'm not sure exactly where it is, but its on near jong-no-sahm (3) dong. from that stop we took a cab a little ways to the samsung hospital. i think the price was around 150,000 won because my friend paid for me. i just saw him dish out 3 100k checks so i'm assuming it wasn't more than that. the place here wasn't as good as ace in terms of the girls and overall style of the rooms, but the service was just as exceptional. its the same 2 hour service, but no blind man giving you a massage. if anyone knows of this place, could you please provide me with the exact location?

another thing guys. i just heard last night of THE LARGEST RLD IN KOREA. its somewhere an hour away from seoul. anyone heard of this? what's it called and is there a bus that will take you there?

Thanks.

AMPM

That would be Yong-ju-geul (20,000 Won by cab from Ilsan).

Dizz Hizz - totally agree with your assessment. By the way, did you really mean "Yoeido"? I suspect you were actually talking about the nearby "Yeungdungpo".

In line with the current trend for denying service to foreigners, you can add "Orange", in Hakdong, to the blacklist.

What a shame,after the good write-up I gave it, last year.

The little weasel at the desk just said: "No service!" When I asked him if it was because I am "weygook", he nodded and said: 'Yes."

I'm starting to hate this fucking country, now. It might be time to save money for a vacation in Thailand. Better looking women and better attitudes to life, sex and farangs.

I think you were correct when you stated Youngdungpo as opposed to my original listing of Youido. My drunk ass obviously could not recall the name of the area but my drunk dick did recall the service.

As for barber shops with multiple poles, is this the standard for foreigners assuming that this place offers sexual services? My understanding is that these barber shop places are for the older male clientele here in Korea, presumably "ahjushees". I tried to avoid these places since as the last thing I want rubbing my balls is a lady who might be old enough to be my aunt.

DH

[QUOTE=Ho Man]In line with the current trend for denying service to foreigners, you can add "Orange", in Hakdong, to the blacklist.

What a shame,after the good write-up I gave it, last year.

The little weasel at the desk just said: "No service!" When I asked him if it was because I am "weygook", he nodded and said: 'Yes."

I'm starting to hate this fucking country, now. It might be time to save money for a vacation in Thailand. Better looking women and better attitudes to life, sex and farangs.[/QUOTE]Geez mate. Chill. How can you hate a country cause they dont serve you in brothels. I understand that It can be upsetting but to say that you hate the country because of this is a bit shallow. Chill mate.

[QUOTE=Asian Phetish]Geez mate. Chill. How can you hate a country cause they dont serve you in brothels. I understand that It can be upsetting but to say that you hate the country because of this is a bit shallow. Chill mate.[/QUOTE]I would like to defend the *****s and pimps of Korea. Believe it or not, the problem is NOT race -- it's language. I have lived here for something like 15 years and am as white as Casper the Friendly Ghost, but I can count on one hand the number of times that refusal has taken place outside of the "glass houses". Those are an unusual case and yes, the glass houses suffer from a racism problem. However, barber shops, outcall massage, room salons, turkish saunas, and all the other places are wide open to a decent Korean speaker. It is incredibly rare to be turned away from these places.

Well Im sure Ho Man can come up with other reasons to hate this country. It is frustrating in being given shitty service or no service and I am not just talking about brothels. I am perpetually saving for Thailand as its simply the best. I will not even waste my time with the chicks on the hill or in Yongsan......Why have the rest when you can have the BEST.....also for all night for about half of what it would cost for a quickie in Yangsan....










[QUOTE=Ho Man]In line with the current trend for denying service to foreigners, you can add "Orange", in Hakdong, to the blacklist.

What a shame,after the good write-up I gave it, last year.

The little weasel at the desk just said: "No service!" When I asked him if it was because I am "weygook", he nodded and said: 'Yes."

I'm starting to hate this fucking country, now. It might be time to save money for a vacation in Thailand. Better looking women and better attitudes to life, sex and farangs.[/QUOTE]

Is this thread turning into an advertisement for Thailand's sex services?

I live in Germany. I have been sent here now for 6 months. Does anyone know of a swinger club or swing group here in this area?

Please let me know.

Well, this is a long shot as this forum isn't that friendly any more but I wondered if anyone had successfully ordered Viagra or Cialis into the country online, or could I just go to the International clinic and get a prescription? Korean guys are pretty obsessed with their hard-on, I'm surprised it's not more readily available.

Dear Asian Phetish

I hate the food and I hate the weather. The pussy at least gave me a reason to look forward to weekends.

My point - and it has been well made by others before me - is that places that have offered me really good service, less than twelve months ago, are closing their doors to me now, for no other reason than my race. I gave "Orange" a favourable write up, last year - and was subsequently thanked by the manager for the increase in foreign custom that ensued.

What has happened, since? I was only out of the country for eight months!

Orange, Friends and places like them, provide the knd of service I prefer, rather than the 20-minute thrash and bash available from the red light zones. Not to mention the fact that they are generally more discreet.

If it were not for Friends (Sollaem) being owned by a friend of mine, I might find this trip to be totally boring.

There are still a few of my old haunts to check out - but I'm not holding my breath, as one complaint, in "Bamgi" by a Korean, seems to be enough to focus all "stress clinics" to close ranks and deny service to foreigners. THe irony is that, in Melbourne, Korean students can be had for far less than they charge here...only 325 days to go (sigh).

[QUOTE=Shadoe]I live in Germany. I have been sent here now for 6 months. Does anyone know of a swinger club or swing group here in this area?

Please let me know.[/QUOTE]Kannste vergessen.

Wenn du lust hast koenne wir ja mal auf piste gehen.

mfg,

AM

As far as I'm concerned, Seongnam MP's/2-pole Barber shops are foreigner friendly. It doesn't matter which ones. I have been to 3 different kinds and they never refused me. The problem is that most of them only provide the standard massage and HJ for about 70k.

However, about 3 weeks ago, I ventured into a 2-pole place right across from the Hyundai Department Store's Main Entrance, heading south, and received a standard massage with a bonus BBBJ for 70K. It was around 11:00pm on a Saturday. The place looked dead and there weren't any young chics, but a woman in her mid 30's agreed to provide a little more after I motioned with my hand that I wanted a BJ as well (Yep, I felt gay doing that but it worked).

Myself, I love getting BJ's and don't need the FS to cum from here till Tuesday. Man, sometimes I wish there was a nice way to ask in Korean, "Do you provide Oral?" so that they dont get offended and can give a simple reply. If any Kyopo knows a short phrase and could contribute regarding this issue, it would be immensely appreciated by this fellow monger.

Anyway, I wasn't expecting anything amazing that night, I just wanted to blow my load. So, yes, she was a bit old. Her face was a 7 for an "agashi", her body a 6, and technique 7. She was very quiet, and after the standard massage she went down on my purple soldier BBBJ style. I wasn't expecting that. I thought CBJ. The only thing I didn't enjoy was the fact that it was so friggin dark in the cubicle and I couldn't see her face devouring my head because of her long hair. Anyway, it felt good as I blew in her mouth. She lingered a while for the remaining drops, sucked it up, and spit it out into the napkin...(ohh man. the Osaka days are coming back to me now. Boys, Japan's the place for BJ's). And yes, I know what you're thinking. It wasn't one of those hand job thingys where the girl pretends it's a BJ in the dark. I've heard about that mischevious technique in this forum. Apparently, many Korean girls do this to fool you while you are in a state of perpetual bliss. How rude and unprofessional of them.

Well, just thought I would give you guys an update.

happy guru,

the phrase you are looking for is: "chaji mogo?"

correspondingly, if you wanted to eat some pussy, you could ask: "poji mogo?"

hope this bit of knowledge speeds you on your way to bliss.

lexluther

The girls in those barber shops have a specialty degree in giving fake BJs. Why the hell do they always turn the lights down so low? It’s precisely because they don't want you to see what they're doing, after all seeing the act is a lot more stimulating. Unless you see her with it in her mouth and then spitting it out, it's all-slight of hand, not mouth

[QUOTE=Mickey Race]Well, this is a long shot as this forum isn't that friendly any more but I wondered if anyone had successfully ordered Viagra or Cialis into the country online, or could I just go to the International clinic and get a prescription? Korean guys are pretty obsessed with their hard-on, I'm surprised it's not more readily available.[/QUOTE]

Mickey, I used to be able to get shipments of V or anything else from Overturepharmacy.com, but that site has vanished or changed. Your only other option is to order it from [url]http://www.rx-mex.com/[/url] and have it shipped to someone in the States first, and then have them ship it here.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Nedski]Dude, read my post again. I said B Row. But there was an A-row qualifer there. I cant stop thinking about her. I honestly wish I had never gone because its torture knowing im only gonna get laid with a girl like that at 70k a pop![/QUOTE]I am well aware that you wrote B row. My question was: has any white guy recently succeeded in getting served on A row? If yes, how, where exactly, and at what time of the day?

Or whatever they're called. I've noticed quite a few in downtown Seoul recently and I'm wondering what they are about. Do you get a girl in your booth, or is it just you alone and a video? How much for how long? Just curious.

A few weeks ago I was feeling fairly frustrated as Miya had locked up and it was about 3 in the morning and I decided to take a stroll around Yongsan and check out the BBS action. There are 2 main BBS near the station. Both have about 6 or 7 poles. Went into the first one and they wanted 70k, and the girls weren't really that great looking. Went across the street to the other one, and they charged me 60k; the girl was about a 7. Really nice, and she took her time. She gave me kisses and a B2B massage, and started making out with me while she gave me a slow HJ. Very nice. But then she went and gave me a BBBJ, which was a surprise. I put my hand down there to make sure it wasn't fake, and she slapped it away when I touched her lips. Her technique was a 9. CIM, and she spit it out into the sink. Afterwards, she praised me by touching my dick and saying "Very good! Very good!" Tipped her 10k and she gave me a deep bow on the way out.

Happy Guru,

Isn't that samseong station across Hundai Dept. Store. I've been to the one across the cross walk on the south side. There is one by the corner and also one a block behind Dunken Donuts a block east of the cross walk. Both didn't have any customers when I went there and only had Ajumas around 5-7 in looks, thats being nice. I didn't partake but if you find one please post or PM me. I will be back to Seoul early next month and would like to check it out. Will be staying across the street at the Intercontinental Hotel. I heard from my other half access to the business clubs in Gangnam are for Koreans only or maybe if you speak Korean. Didn't tell her I was going but she was talking about the business clubs with her girl friend one day, I think her friend works there. Maybe she was trying to stop me from checking them out.

[QUOTE=Yella Man]Mickey, I used to be able to get shipments of V or anything else from Overturepharmacy.com, but that site has vanished or changed. Your only other option is to order it from [url]http://www.rx-mex.com/[/url] and have it shipped to someone in the States first, and then have them ship it here.

Yella Man[/QUOTE]The easiest place to get V in Korea is at Incheon Airport at the Pharmacy in the transit area. Just walk up and ask for it. The last time I did that, I bought a bottle of 30. I'm not sure if they will sell smaller quantities.

AR

Happy Guru,

As Lex stated for blowjob in Korean, perhaps that might come out as a bit too strong when entering the premises of a parlour and asking for oral.

I think a more polite way of asking is just to mention "service" as most Koreans understand this term and when regarded in the sexual content, the locals should get the picture.

Chaji mogo(yo) might be a bit harsh. Just say "paera-jo-yo".

Hope this helps.

DH

Dizz Hizz,

Lex did not intend for da Brudda to utter that phrase upon entry to the establishment. That's something to be said once in private.

LexLuther

Lex,

Either way, I'm sure he can build his vocabulary skills. It can never hurt learning how to say "oral" in more than just one way, especially when asked in a polite way.

Apologies for the misunderstanding though.

DH

[QUOTE=Durianfan]A few weeks ago I was feeling fairly frustrated as Miya had locked up and it was about 3 in the morning and I decided to take a stroll around Yongsan and check out the BBS action. There are 2 main BBS near the station. Both have about 6 or 7 poles. Went into the first one and they wanted 70k, and the girls weren't really that great looking. Went across the street to the other one, and they charged me 60k; the girl was about a 7. Really nice, and she took her time. She gave me kisses and a B2B massage, and started making out with me while she gave me a slow HJ. Very nice. But then she went and gave me a BBBJ, which was a surprise. I put my hand down there to make sure it wasn't fake, and she slapped it away when I touched her lips. Her technique was a 9. CIM, and she spit it out into the sink. Afterwards, she praised me by touching my dick and saying "Very good! Very good!" Tipped her 10k and she gave me a deep bow on the way out.[/QUOTE]

Dude this place sounds like it has promise. Where exactly is it, I might want to check this place out when I get back.

Like I said, there are 2 main ones by the station; they are across the street from each other. They are both facing the street, but one charges only 60k - that's the one you want. Don't remember the exact location, but I'll try to go up there this weekend and get more exact details.

Went to Yongsan on Sunday morning around 0630. Was already bright outside. Found 7-8 girls in the A-row, mostly 7-9's and maybe some 10-12 in the B's, mostly girls I would not touch with one exception, a very cute looking girl, an 8 sitting all the way in the top right looking from the station exit.
But to my luck (in this case) I am a Korean, although have been living my whole life abroad so can't speak Korean - so I decided to try for the A-row which turned out to be no problem. They all could speak and understand enough English to explain the rate and time, not much more though. Was quoted 70k for 15-20 minutes or 210k for an hour.
I decided to wait around a bit though, as I was curious to see the action, and just sat around having a coke, reading a newspaper, going for a stroll for about an hour. Was very strange to see the local passing by the street to go to the station. Also wanted to see if there would be any non-koreans coming so I could see how they would be greeted by the girls. But none came so I took a final round to make my pick. Was charmed by a girl that looked very much like Tamlyn Tomita(?) the actress in Karate Kid 2. I had the hots for her when I was a kid so this was a nice chance :)
The girl had quite big natural tits, although I am not good enough to estimate the size, she quoted 70k for 15 minutes, I got it prolonged to 20 and was happy to go in.
Inside she led me to a room, probably went out to inform her pimp, came back, we undressed, she "washed" me with some wet towels - cleenex thingy. Then some licking from her on my chest, down to my balls, some bbbj - very nice. Then on with a condom, tried several positions, no limit here I think, even put half a thumb in her ass, but she didn't like that so I stopped when she asked me to. When I was getting ready, I asked to come in her mouth which was ok. Off with the rubber and back to bbbj, at the same time the pimp knocked on the door, the girl shouted and we continued, I don't like rush so I needed to jerk off a bit while she licked my balls, she was then a bit worried about where I would come and pointed at her tits, said not face because of her make up - I was afraid this meant that CIM was not possible any longer, so I asked, but that was ok, just as long as I did not mess up the make up. No problem by me of course :)

The room had a one wall mirror, so it was nice for your eyes as well. All in all a good session I think. Well worth the money. The girl was at the rightmost end looking from the station. I you know how Tamlyn looked as young you will recognise her. Age 24.

Anyone know how much it costs to stay at the hotel/ motel at the top of Hooker Hill (by Miya's place) in Itaewon?

D,

The cost is 30,000 won. Ask the guy for the room over looking the Hill. That way you can keep an eye on the action in the weeee hours of the morning. I've caught Miya as early as 11:00 AM still working after I had checked out of the Hilltop on a few occasions.

Yella Man

Hi everyone,

I am a kyopo and I am wondering if anybody want to join me to have fun because I am kinda sick to go alone to the anma and all the other stuffs.

I only know the yongsan area and the o2.

PM if you are interest.

How many speak English in Korea?

Thanks

I Jags,

You're asking the same question on the Vietnam board, what's the punchline?

[QUOTE=Darren 33]Or whatever they're called. I've noticed quite a few in downtown Seoul recently and I'm wondering what they are about. Do you get a girl in your booth, or is it just you alone and a video? How much for how long? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Did you find the answer?

Where are these places at?

Anyone know what the deal is?

I also heard about sex sauna's?

Anyone know about where they are, and how they work?

Thx,

Shadoe

DH,

Thanks for the "Paera-jo-yo" advice.

As for Itaewon, I noticed that Miya is very popular with the boys on this site. So, after all the good reports on her BJ skills, decided to pay her a 40K visit last week. Not much to report here. She's a 6 on the face, and a 5 body, but by god she loves sucking up the milk of human kindness, and I love long black hair. After my helmet plugged and cleansed her dirty mouth with the elixir of life, she thanked me for the experience and gave me a complimentary Cider drink..BJ Skill-I'd say a 7.

Nevertheless, good service for a quick satisfying release on a hot day. Hate that friggin' dog of hers though.

Happy G.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]I Jags,

You're asking the same question on the Vietnam board, what's the punchline?[/QUOTE]

And on the Malaysia Board.

I'll be heading back to Thailand in November, and I have to put up with a 10+ hour layover in Incheon in order to take advantage of a free KAL ticket that I got with Delta miles. Now I know that Incheon is a beautiful airport, with a great Internet Kiosk, among other benefits, but I still would like to come up with something useful to kill the time. I can really only surf the web for a couple of hours, then maybe a couple more hours for napping and grabbing some food, but more to the point, are there any nearby opportunities (other than self-service) for me to relieve the semen build-up that I'll surely experience on the long trans-pacific leg on my way to paradise?

How rough would customs in Incheon be, and do I need a visa to leave the airport for a several hour trip for some hobbying? And what type of mongering opportunities are within a short cab ride from Incheon airport.

Member 2041,

Some one asked this same question about four or five weeks ago and some posters resonded too. Probably nothing around the Airport area that is overt enough for Mongers to know about. However the ride to Seoul is less than an hour, so you can go to the RLDs (yougsan, Miari,most taxi drivers can take you to these places) or the infamous Hill in Itewon.

Depending on your finances, you could book a Hotel Room and pick up a copy of the Korea Times/Herald and call one of those massage places in the paper or also visit a Barber shop (Taxi driver can take you there).

You don't need a VISA to leave the Airport, but will have to go through the secutity screening to get back in. At Incheon you have to take off your shoes and wear a pair of slipper/sandal to go through the metal detector.

Your best bet may very well be your Final destination where you can get all you want and then some, but who knows, things may change between now and November, but I wouldn' bet on it.

2041

I have visited Korea 2 (once for visa purposes) times in the last 7 years and regularly read this thread of the ISG. My overall impression is that our money is really not all that welcome there. Which means you will probably stand a better than 50/50 chance of being disappointed by taking a quick jaunt into Seoul. I wouldn't do it, especially if I felt jet lagged, which is likely.

I have visited Thailand at least 10 times in the last 7 years, and will return in December. Our money is much more than just welcome there.

Why bother being treated like an outcast, when if you keep your pants zipped up for an additional 10 hours, you can have that much better explosion with someone who is likely to treat you like a king? For that matter, 2 or 3 explosions with the money you will save.

2041,

Just wait until you get to Thailand. Trust me. If you go into Seoul you're going to pay 10 times as much as you would in Thailand. Even at a Barbershop you'll pay at least 70k (with tip). Just wait - you'll have a better time for a much cheaper price, and with a MUCH more beautiful girl. If you want sex from a hottie in Korea, expect to pay at least 100k. Maybe 70k if you go to Yongsan. But even then, Thai girls are hotter by far.

Thanks Run Mann and Ralph, I appreciate the honest advice. Believe me, as I am not a newbie to Thailand, I know very well that later that night, I will have access to all the action I need in the area around Sukhumvit once I arrive. I was simply trying to find some worthwhile diversion to kill some time while waiting between flights. I guess I will simply try to grab some sleep on the reasonably comfortable chairs which the Koreans have thoughtfully set up without arm rests so that one can lie across three of them - and save up my loads for the lovely thai ladies who will certainly appreciate receiving them from a "hansum man" bearing gifts such as I!

Has anyone been to O2 in Yongsan lately? How much is it and are foreigners still welcome?

Had a trip recently to Yongsan. Quick shot with a busty but slender lady in the back row closest to Emart. She looked like she was wearing a mask, she had that much makeup on, but she was cute and even spoke some English. She complained when I didn't last the whole 20 mins. Poor girl, it was probably a slow Saturday..

It's hard these days to monger in Seoul. Just a few a-holes on the Korean equivalent of the WSG (or should I say ISG) forum have caused most shop owners to stop the servicing of foreigners. I'm sure that most people don't care, and even the shop owners and girls don't mind. But when they're blackballed as a result, they inevitably have to protect their larger market share. I'm hanging out for a visit to Jang An Dong, but have reservations about a long trip and a blue balled rejection.

Some may say Thailand, but while I'm here I'm sure that the easy girls around Itaewon can give me a few free rides. Seems a shame to let all that pussy go to waste doesn't it?

Gonad

The price of O2 is 160k won.

There are some nice girls but if you want to go during the night, i advice you to do a reservation.

I think it s welcome for foreigner but no one is speking english there so i don't know if you will be really welcome.

If you don t want to go alone there give me a message i will be please to go with someone there.

Amen to that..
but you know the sluts in itaewon love the foreigners money! you see they love the fact that youngsan and other places dont take us..
becuase they charge 300-500.000 for a shagg, giorgios, or of such places should be blacklisted in my book! and foreigners that pay that should be smacked around the head!!! who pays 500USD for a root!! come on!!!!
get real!!!
even the hookers in the hill when they quote me 200 I just laugh at them and say WHAT!! are you a doctor?? are you a lawyer???
what makes you think you deserve 200USD for 10-20minutes work???
DREAM ON!!! I dont even make that much an hour!!!
then I say I will give 70K and thats it!! of course they take it.. but its foreigners out there who are rich or expense account holders who are feeding them!! STOP IT!!! no one deserved 200 or 300 500 dollars for a root!!
unless she is a superstar video porno actress or something.. not just some **** korean ***** who charges those prices becuase foreigners are banned from RLDS ...

anyway.. ok enough of the rant.. hahahaha

anyway got in tips on new girls working itaewon which bars?
which bars have hot girls now?

Being a lazy ba****d I did try to "UTFSE" but there were to many results and not really up 2 date.

I'll be spending a whoppin 4 days in Seoul ( 3 nights) while being on a vacation tour to China, NK and SK.

So I won't have much time to learn the layout of the city and looking for places to visit. So, if (I stress IF) one would like to testdrive some local poon what's the easiest solution? Just for the novelty of a "first" I guess 150k for an hour+ is a rather ok price. But paying more then 100k for a very short time (under an hour).. then I pay my right hand instead *lol*.

A MP that works just like those in fishbowls in Bangkok would be the best solution. Looking for the right bar to score is out of the question due to the fact I have a short time in town AND travelling in a group.

Or, should I just drop the idea? I'll have one night in Busan/Pusan before flying back to "good old europe". I guess it's easier there!

Sorry for a n00b question but it's a first trip and a short one too.

I have enjoyed reading the posts and hope when I visit in Jan (freezing cold, right?) that I get to experience a lot of hot Korean women. I, too, am a kyopo, but I have been mistaken for being Chinese, Japanese, any native of the Spanish speaking countries, and even Samoan (too small for a Samoan). I'm sure my goatee doesn't help also ;). But, if I can steal away from my buddy and his family, would any one of you guys be willing to show me around? I would be most appreciative and would be happy to buy the beers for the "tour". Hehe.

Day 1:

The Hill is as bad as ever, since the 9pm curfew was imposed back in 2001. At the top of the Hill on the left as you ascend, there's dark bar/disco - here there were more MPs than mongers and pussy combined. Yeesh!
Couple of freelancers in 3s/4s on the road just off the main road near Hamilton Hotel - quoted 150k. Screw that!

Further down the road where it gets darker and darker, this is like the 3rd World, met a solo SW. She prepositioned me - 100k, 90k, she was desparate. Nice body, wore glasses. Deal = 75k.

Cab rounded up the fare to the next highest, usually, its the lowest (tourism friendly wannabees). In the room, she lights up - got her before she could. Fought long and hard for a non-smoking floor (1 minute to check in 10 minutes to get NS floor) at Novotel Ambassador, Gangnam.
Next she raids the mini-bar. Got her again, just in time. Asks for money upfront. This is turning out nicely. Later, I say - she walks out.
Got my beauty sleep that night.

Day 2:
Ate a lot of Bougerley with Soju - these dinners end up late, very late.

Day 3:
Stuck in this dump - last flight outta Incheon to HK is at 6pm. Met this Korean American in the gym who suggested I go to some hot babes meat market. Wrote down the directions. Figured, the Hill was easier (Hotel has a bus), so headed there.
Met this nice guy in a suit (no tie) - a consultant for the Forces, who gave me the run-down was what was available and whos a rip-off (all, actually) and reminiscing about the old days.
Together, we headed off to the "meat market" - takes a while to get there 2 cabs, walk up alley and all. Nice, place. The young attendant was a bit annoyed with me wearing shorts. We get in, plenty of babes, very few guys all Korean.
This is place Korean girls get down to hard drinking. Saw a display case with half-full bottles of pricey liquors - locked. What happens is patrons buy/bring a bottle, drink as much as you can, then leave it in the display (until the next visit) for a fee - you take the key.
To score will take time, money, good looks, youth and so much more. None of which I have. So, I beat it - the Suit, stayed put, got talking to somene.

Another night of beauty sleep.

I have recently been hearing a lot about "booking bars" and "missy bars," supposedly places where us white folks can go and meet married ladies and younger single ladies...the women supposedly frequent these places for the sole purpose of meeting foreign men...

Sounds like a good deal for some cheap to free pussy. Does anyone have the lowdown on this? Locations and such?

[QUOTE=Huitzli Smokapetl]Day 1:

The Hill is as bad as ever, since the 9pm curfew was imposed back in 2001. At the top of the Hill on the left as you ascend, there's dark bar/disco - here there were more MPs than mongers and pussy combined. Yeesh!

Couple of freelancers in 3s/4s on the road just off the main road near Hamilton Hotel - quoted 150k. Screw that!

Further down the road where it gets darker and darker, this is like the 3rd World, met a solo SW. She prepositioned me - 100k, 90k, she was desparate. Nice body, wore glasses. Deal = 75k.

Cab rounded up the fare to the next highest, usually, its the lowest (tourism friendly wannabees). In the room, she lights up - got her before she could. Fought long and hard for a non-smoking floor (1 minute to check in 10 minutes to get NS floor) at Novotel Ambassador, Gangnam.

Next she raids the mini-bar. Got her again, just in time. Asks for money upfront. This is turning out nicely. Later, I say - she walks out.

Got my beauty sleep that night.

Day 2:
Ate a lot of Bougerley with Soju - these dinners end up late, very late.

Day 3:
Stuck in this dump - last flight outta Incheon to HK is at 6pm. Met this Korean American in the gym who suggested I go to some hot babes meat market. Wrote down the directions. Figured, the Hill was easier (Hotel has a bus), so headed there.
Met this nice guy in a suit (no tie) - a consultant for the Forces, who gave me the run-down was what was available and whos a rip-off (all, actually) and reminiscing about the old days.

Together, we headed off to the "meat market" - takes a while to get there 2 cabs, walk up alley and all. Nice, place. The young attendant was a bit annoyed with me wearing shorts. We get in, plenty of babes, very few guys all Korean.

This is place Korean girls get down to hard drinking. Saw a display case with half-full bottles of pricey liquors - locked. What happens is patrons buy/bring a bottle, drink as much as you can, then leave it in the display (until the next visit) for a fee - you take the key.

To score will take time, money, good looks, youth and so much more. None of which I have. So, I beat it - the Suit, stayed put, got talking to somene.

Another night of beauty sleep.[/QUOTE]Huitzli Smokapetl,

I spent the better part of nine years in the ROK. The place surely has changed a lot, from the prices and the modus operandi that used to be in the ROK, at the Hamilton Hotel and the "Hill."

Perhaps the "brothers of this forum" are approaching this situation in the ROK in the wrong manner. Perhaps, we should proposition the MPs for ST or LT. Look on the bright side. They might be cheaper and better than 3 or 4's you saw. (LOL)

Hope that your good night's sleep is cut off soon. Good Luck.

Can anyone tell me the directions to Yongjookul by car? I am having a hell of a time trying to find where it is on a map, let alone directions. Mebbe the korean spelling may clear things up. What is the place across town that has the girls dresed up as school girls called as well? Thanks for the help!

AL

[QUOTE=Fun Planet]I have recently been hearing a lot about "booking bars" and "missy bars," supposedly places where us white folks can go and meet married ladies and younger single ladies. The women supposedly frequent these places for the sole purpose of meeting foreign men.

Sounds like a good deal for some cheap to free pussy. Does anyone have the lowdown on this? Locations and such?[/QUOTE]I know of 2 possible locations. One of them is a married woman hook-up but requires some K-language proficiency. The other is not much to write of. I don't know of any good ones. I haven't been myself, but PM me if you want.

I've gone through 10 or 11 pages of this thread, looking for directions to "O2", in Yongsan. Eventually, I ran into the "flame war" that went on a few months ago - got frustrated and stopped looking.

First, can anyone make it easy for me and tell me how to get to O2? Thanks, in advance.

Second, perhaps this is best addressed to Jackson: Can we have a page on the South Korea site, called "Directions"? We are almost unique, here, in that Korea does not generally have street names (except for major roads), so that directions to this place or that, generally have to be wordy and descriptive - you can't just describe a place as being at: "123 Plain Street" - because that would be too sensible for this country.

Walk down the main road that runs in front of the Yongsan electronics market heading in the direction of Wonhyo bridge. Once you pass the home appliances market called Electroland, look up for the O2 sign. It's fairly large and is just before a Hyundai Motor dealership.

[QUOTE=Azian Luver]Can anyone tell me the directions to Yongjookul by car? I am having a hell of a time trying to find where it is on a map, let alone directions. Mebbe the korean spelling may clear things up. What is the place across town that has the girls dresed up as school girls called as well? Thanks for the help!

AL[/QUOTE]My info may be dated and not terribly accurate but its about 10km East of Munsan. Camp Gary Owen used to be there before it moved to the former Camp Pelham and took the name with it. If you can get a military map that would be the easiest way to find it. There used to be over 100 clubs there. It was heaven before the Olympics and the US forces moving off the DMZ. Hope that helps, a little.

Route no1.
Grab a cab and ask to take you to "Land Cinema, Yongsan."
The Driver will drop you beneath the overpass that hanging between
two buildings. From there, walk to the South / to the river-bound.
O2 is on the left side as you walk. If the driver drops you right,
you will see a parking garage on your right side, and the Big Electronics
market on your left. When the building on your leftside finishes, O2 is
on B2 floor of the second(?) or third bulding, where the first floor holds
the Hyundai car dealer.

Route No 2.
If you don't want to spend few bucks on the taxi, here is the long
(and somewhat confusing) way to get to O2. Get a subway to Yongsan Stn (#1).
When you exit, try to find the sign "Yongsan Electronics Market".
(Mindlessly following junior kids is a good strategy here. Probably they are heading
the Electronics Market, but not O2) Unless you are lost or something,
you will walk over the railroad through the glass corridor, and will land
near the large parking lot. From there, go strait up, hit the first/busy 6-lane road,
take a left turn, then walk all the way down. (You are heading South / again to the River).
When you begin to think you might lost, you will see the overpass I mentioned
in the Route No.1. method. The rest is the same.


Comment 1: Does O2 serve the "foreigner community"? Last time I check with their mamasan,
she said "only when accompanied with the locals" and she kindly reminded me of
the surcharge of 40,000 won (total in 200,000 won).
There must be a phone number somewhere on the board, which I believe I wrote long time ago.



Comment 2: If they do accept you, be sure to ask the mileage card, which entitles
a free service with 10 stamps. I was skeptical about that card, but once I got a free f**k,
there was no such sweet experience.


-- Play Thing

O2 via subway ([url]http: //www. urbanrail. net/as/seou/seoul-map. htm[/url]):

When I attempted to go a few months back, it took a while for me to get my bearings in the station. Here's what I remembered:

The Yongsan subway station is also the railway station. Head up to the main level. When you are facing the railway ticket counters, exit via the doors behind you. You will be in-between two tall commercial buildings. The one infront is a mall. To your right wide stairs lead down to street level. Go right. You'll end up at a balcony, overlooking the rail tracks. The building across is a small shopping complex. To your right, there's a covered overpass. Use it to get across and into the shopping complex. Exit that building on the opposite side from the subway/railway station. Go left toward the circular building, the Electronics Market. When you pass the parking lot entrance to this building on your left, you will come up to the main street. To your left along this building is the street leading to Wonhyo Bridge and O2. Follow this street until the E Market building ends. At this corner, you will see O2 sign on the next building across the street.

Lotto Anma: At the corner above, turn right and look across the intersection. There's a parking area next to a tall building. That building contains a mini-mart, restaurant, and Lotto Anma. (I forgot which floor, but you can't miss it.) I decided to give it a try. The whole floor is devoted to this place, so when the elevator doors open, you will step right into the reception area. What a surprise. Anyway, it costed W170K (with a credit card). The service is similar to O2 that others have described in Oct 2004: soapie, BJ, FS, massage, food, etc. The shower/bath rooms are to the left, waiting area on the right, and massage rooms behind the wait room. I had to catch a train back to Busan, so I didn't check out the whole place or all the offerings. Plus, they hardly spoke English, so I couldn't communicate what I wanted. I declined the massage and sleepover options, but wanted a quick meal, but they couldn't deliver in time, so the male attendant brought a tray of apple slices. Oh well. He was very courteous, even so far as coming down to the street and catching a taxi for me. Next time I am definitely using them as an overniter place with a happy ending. Or, happy beginning.

Good luck,

Seeko

I just heard of a RLD that exists down by boon-dahng where the girls dress up in high school uniforms and sailor suits. I heard of another one where they where dress up in wonder women costumes, etc. I don't care much for this one, but if anyone can shed some light as to where the first place is, I'd return the favor somehow.

AMPM,

thats sungnam RLD al bowing at you when you walk by in stewardess, highschool..etc outfits

I strolled through it once and found it wierd because everygirl looks the same. Like dolls, not even real people, I don't know i guess that's just me.


have fun

Been to O2 Anma yesterday and asked if they provide the service to the foreigner. The answer was a clear "No. Without an exception".
But that very phrase of "Without" usually means there is always an exception. Didn't bother to ask how.

Sorry for the not-so-much-welcome news.

-- Play Thing

There was that guy who wrote before about the Yongsan BBS.

I am eager to give these a go, but still need better directions and im curious how long it goes for. EG spend the same at the Yongsan row and get a 10+.

So any info about Yongsan BBS' would be great. Or any other BBS's in the area, except the Itaewon one, ewwww ugly ugly ugly.

Did anyone try the new renovated massage place at the Dynasty Hotel (right across for the Ritz Carlton Hotel in Gangnam)? The place was good before renovation and it opened few months ago. I have not been there since it opened.

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]AMPM,

thats sungnam RLD al bowing at you when you walk by in stewardess, highschool..etc outfits

I strolled through it once and found it wierd because everygirl looks the same. Like dolls, not even real people, I don't know i guess that's just me.

Have fun[/QUOTE]Hey Katz,

Just got into Korea yesterday from Irvine, CA and I am staying in Bun-Dang for two months but have no idea where to go. I am avid in the California area but have never known where to go around here. I am staying near the Samsung Plaza Mall. Do you know any areas I can go around there or how I can get to the sungnam RLD? Any information would be greatly appreciated.

First time posting here, have been a viewing member for a while, but now I am in Korea, leaving soon. Anyway...

I went to Yongsam at around 12 noon. This is the messed up part. I did not know what was Row A or Row B. I walked past the stuff and found the alley, and if you walk more theres another alley. Both alleys are good looking girls, so I have no idea. Can someone shed some light? Thanks.

Also, I went to Itaewon tonight. I am Korean, and I couldnt not get any action! This may be the first time you are hearing a Korean who does not get service by Korean women! They were hollering at the white men, but told me they dont "offer anything besides drinking", maybe cuz I look young (im 19 but I look young man). So yeah.

I'm thinking about going to yongsam again.

I have 100 000 won and I am currently in Konkuk university on intersection LINE 2 and LINE 7. Any help would be appreciated. Theres barber shop poles here, but I want a real good one.

Thanks

Never posted in this thread but I think I should.
I've been to Korea quiet a few times. Been of korean family.
About 8 years ago I was supposed to meet a friend of mine from NY in Seoul.
He got there before I did and couldn´t get any luck.
He tried some of the karaoke places and clubs but no luck.
One of the places wa owned by one of my dad's oldest friend.
When we met in Seoul, we went out for dinner with business associates and then for afterhours we decided to go sing(korean passtime).
I called uncle and asked which place was closest to where we were. He owns quiet a few places in Korea. We got there and my friend recognized the place as been one of the ones he couldn´t get any action.
We got there and my uncle had 10 girls waiting for us. We were in 5 and the other ones had gone home.
It was funny because the girls that wouldn´t speak to him the time he tried, now were hands all over.
We end up spending a week going out with 4 of the girls. We ventured into clubs and by no means my koreans is perfect but it was all a matter of atittude.

James,

Get your ass up to Jang Ahn Dong and look for a place called Walker Hill or further down the street look for Full Course (both places will be displayed in Hangul).

There is no need to go to Itaewon. If you even have some more money, try the places near Kangnam or in Apkujong.

BTW - I'm talking about massage parlours.

DH

[QUOTE=Dizz Hizz]James,

Get your ass up to Jang Ahn Dong and look for a place called Walker Hill or further down the street look for Full Course (both places will be displayed in Hangul).

There is no need to go to Itaewon. If you even have some more money, try the places near Kangnam or in Apkujong.

BTW - I'm talking about massage parlours.

DH[/QUOTE]Thanks Dizz Hizz for the info. I might check it out tmrw. But today I went to yongsam to see was good. A few chicks. Then I went to a PC bang and read your report LOL. I was debating whethedr to go to walker hill, but I decided to stay put. Ate at a chicken place nearby (dont go) and checked the scene out. I hated how these girls would be all nice but when you do the fucking they want you to go fast. Anyway I checked out the B rows and I met this girl. Well lady sort of old in ur late 30s, was like a 6-7, but I aint only into hot girls. Im into women period. Obviously not the old ones and the butt ugly ones but she was nice. She said 50 000 for unlimited time? I knew this was too good to be true but after 40 minutes it was alll gravy. She tossed my salad and sucked nice for 20 minutes ALONE!. Then she rode it all the way. VERY VERY GFE.. hell ME (married experience LOL).. it was great. PM if you want her name. Mind you shes not amazing, but I respect the women's body in any form (cept the butt ugly ones). She works at night starting from 7pm.

HOLLER!. DIZZ I might check out walker hill tmrw.

Can anyone tell me if 19 years older ususally go to these places? I had many chances to go in, but I feel so weird thinking these people stare at me.

Sorry for the long post.

Dude, 19? Get yourself over to a Korean nite club over in Kangnam and do some booking!!! Boss, Julianna's, or whatever is happening these days. If you have some basic korean skills and being a gyopo, you should have no problems hooking up with a little young hottie! Treat them nice you're good to go. Don't waste your time over in Itaewon. Or if you got some summer job money to burn, get yourself to one of the local massage places for an assrimming. Or head up to 588 for a quickie. Or hang out at the clubs around Hongdae and pick up some Korean-american chicks studying at Yonsei for the summer.

James,

You are a young kid, given that you're barely legal to drink in this country. You should be enjoying your time at clubs over in Hongdae or in Kangnam, but I think that the nightclub scene might be a bit hard on your wallet not to mention that the girls in the club might be a bit too old for you and expect an older guy.

I have to agree with the previous poster, go out and have fun. And as for Korean American girls, don't even bother. You can deal with them back at home so get some local flavor.

DH

I had a cool but very expensive trip to the hill a few weeks ago. I went into one of the bars walking up towards the mosque, on the right, next to Starbutts. Can't remember the name but I think it's the first one right past Starbutts. I was wasted and knew I'd do something foolish.

I was horny as hell and hit all the bars on the hill looking for a lady who would go to my house in Shinchon for under 700K. Finally found a real sweet and hot girl, young with a hard body. She agreed to come and stay for several hours for about 400K and do it as much as I liked. So off we went.

Then after our first shag at about 5 a.m. she said she had to leave but that she'd come back on the way to work at 1 p.m. for a second go round. I was beat, and I trusted her so I said okay (after I tried to talk her into staying). She said she had to go home to change and get some real sleep before her next shift.

Surprisingly, about an hour later my phone rang and it was her saying she changed her mind and was on her way back to sleep with me until she had to go to work. She showed up, we slept a bit, woke up and shagged, I cooked her a late brunch. She was supposed to leave then but asked if I was up another round when she saw my hard on. She was a real trooper and really went out her way to give me money's worth.

Was it worth it? Probably not that kind of dough but she was hot, young and fit.. perfect body in my opinion. And she really made the effort to make me happy.

I hesitated to share this with anyone because I found a wicked place in my own backyard. Haven't been going as much as I thought so I figured I might as well share the info.

At Shinchon Station (line 2) behind Grand Mart (and walk through the little market there) 1 block off the main road across from Hyundae Dept. Store there is a little basement massage parlor (it's got the barber poles) that just opened a few months ago. A Korean friend told me it was good but I didn't know what he meant til I tried it myself with another Canadian buddy.

We walked in one rainy late night and the little lobby had a few very young Korean dudes. Surprisingly they greeted us kindly in broken English and welcomed us in. We saw several nice young ladies ranging form so-so to pretty hot walking around.

For 60,000 we got taken to two very clean, new and warmly lit little cabin-like rooms behind curtains. A few seconds later a guy came and told us that we had to take a shower and we were led to a shower room with towels, robes (or shorts), got cleaned up and went back to our respective rooms. After about 20 minutes a very fine young gal with a great rack and slim brown body came in and started to give me a great full body massage complete with walking on my back.

She was somewhat of a country girl I gathered. She said she'd worked in Gangnam hostess bars but after the crackdown was forced to change jobs. Lucky for me.

After the massage, she got undressed down to her panties, soaped up her breasts and started giving me the soapland massage. After a bit of that she filled up her mouth with garglin, to make me stay hard or for the tingle, I'm not sure which, and gave me a nice BJ. Then she switched to ice cubes and continued the job. After a while she oiled up my johnson and started a handjob.

I actually asked her if I could finish in her mouth and she said it was too late because she'd already oiled me up. When I pressed a little she agree to go back to oral. What a giving girl. Unfortunately because of the garglin I was a little sore by then so after a few minutes I told her to go back to hand and she finished me off that way.

It was well worth the 60,000, maybe one of the best deals in Korea. Next time I'm down there I'll get the name and post it here.

Jameskim, oh whoops. I didn't see your budget. Well again, I'd say work up the locals your age and get a freebee or try one of the RLD's for a quick and cheap pop.

[QUOTE=Kimochi]Dude, 19? Get yourself over to a Korean nite club over in Kangnam and do some booking!!! Boss, Julianna's, or whatever is happening these days. If you have some basic korean skills and being a gyopo, you should have no problems hooking up with a little young hottie! Treat them nice you're good to go. Don't waste your time over in Itaewon. Or if you got some summer job money to burn, get yourself to one of the local massage places for an assrimming. Or head up to 588 for a quickie. Or hang out at the clubs around Hongdae and pick up some Korean-american chicks studying at Yonsei for the summer.[/QUOTE]Yo, thanks for the info, its 8:40pm in seoul and Im heading to Kangnam in a bit. Boss and Julianna's? Alrite, I'll go there first man. Then tmrw I'm going back to canada! Wish me luck!

kimochi,

It's easier said then done.

I've seen many many kyopos fail.

Jameskim,

19?let you in?

Show them the money and you can bring your younger brother too.

this is Korea money talks BS walks.


Sam Katz aka SKPIMP

This is one of the many anma's on the hill near Yoksam Stn (Line 2, Exit 10) across from the Samsung SDS bldg. I've tried Paradise, Baeksong (a new one with fancy interiors), and then, most recently, Zeus. The girl I met was called Sun. She is a great GFE--the works. I don't know if she likes Waygooks as much as she liked me (I'm a gyopo), but I encourage you to try her if you are in the area.

Come out Exit 10, walk straight up the hill, then go downhill a little. There will be an alley on your left with at least eight different anma's and countless bars. I haven't been to any bars, but I saw some of the girls going to work--they were all great looking. There are guys in the alley offering Russian girls (25K+room), too, if you want to try something different.

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]kimochi,

It's easier said then done.

I've seen many many kyopos fail.

Sam Katz aka SKPIMP[/QUOTE]True, but let's not discourage the kid. Positive encouragement only. Yeah I should have warned him the strike out rate can be bad but that's the beauty of those booking clubs. Just put on your teflon shirt and have your waiter keep bringing those young beauties in. And remember to get those digits. Edit: oops again. didn't realize he (Jameskim) was heading out the next day. And forgot to warn him that you can rack up a good bill on the way especially for someone on a student budget. :O

BTW, anyone been to "Don't Tell Mama's" in Kangnam lately. Its more of a caberet/ nite club for older folks. Years ago, I got taken there by some locals and boy was that place filled with some fine and willing Korean MILF's (late 30's and up). Riverside hotel nite club also seemed to have a slightly older crowd (late 20's and up).

PS: Sam, words of wisdom. I second that on "money talks and bs walks"... although money AND BS can get you a LOT of fine punani in the land of the morning calm.(always helps if you're on an expat budget ;))

Cheers

Has anyone used these. I have been using the home service from Kim's. Found out later it was in the paper. I have had two different services come. Some refuse because it is my house (add says house service) and only come to hotel room. Don't always feel rush except for a few instances. Usually cost 200K won.

[QUOTE=Kimochi]BTW, anyone been to "Don't Tell Mama's" in Kangnam lately. Its more of a caberet/ nite club for older folks. Years ago, I got taken there by some locals and boy was that place filled with some fine and willing Korean MILF's (late 30's and up). Riverside hotel nite club also seemed to have a slightly older crowd (late 20's and up).[/QUOTE]I've been to both of these fine establishments and found them a little bit boring. They're way too loud for any conversation. Sure, you can get booked with some nice ladies to sit down next to you for a minute or two, but the time required to sift through to the players who are ready and able to fuck that night is a little bit much. In the best case, your humpty dance won't get started until midnight at the earliest and probably not much before 2:00 a.m. You will, of course, need to secure a room for the deed, adding to the cost. And the cigarette stench in these places is so strong, basically you need to throw away your suit in the morning.

All four times I've been to these places, it ended with hot "free" (if you ignore the cost of the club, and the hotel room) sex with a nutty Korean girl -- and one time, hot sex with [b]two[/b] nutty Korean girls, each of which pretended to be asleep while I fucked them in succession). I just didn't find it to be much of a good value time- or money-wise. I guess if I wasn't as focused on finding a hookup right that night I probably could have collected up a mess of phone numbers. No thanks.

[QUOTE=SeoulSurvivor] I just didn't find it to be much of a good value time- or money-wise. I guess if I wasn't as focused on finding a hookup right that night I probably could have collected up a mess of phone numbers. No thanks.[/QUOTE]Very true on it not being good value/ vs time and $ required especially for those just visiting for a short period. But you do gotta admit you can find some fun nutcases in those places. ;)

BTW, SS, Great pics in the gallery you've been posting. Brings back memories of visiting bukchang dong when I first got transferred to Seoul years ago and didn't know the city that well yet.

BTW, how do you survive in Seoul if you can't stand the cigarette stench? Its friggin everywhere.

Cheers

Them Korean milfs?

Try pulling one nighters with them 21-23 year olds with no boyfriends because they are all in the army, now that's what I call fun.


Although the young ones like to come with cock blocks so bring a friend because the younger ones don't let there friends run off to the motel with a stranger they were booked to that easily.

And SeoulSurvivor is right, phone numbers mean squat in Korea, they give there number out like it's no big deal, it can take you a mile or a centimeter.

happy hunting you mongroids

Sam Katz

Hello fellow hunters.

Great posting everybody. I'm planning to visit Seoul in mid-september and looking for a place to shag with a nice Korean. There are so much to choose from. Not sure which one would be the best for a first-timer. Any suggestions? Thanks ahead.

Cgfog

Can someone please help Cgfog out, I would hate for him to keep posting his message, 4 times should be enough for a reply.

Sorry Cgfog I can't help but one of the other mongers will, watch out for that submit report tab.

[QUOTE=Asia Rocks]The easiest place to get V in Korea is at Incheon Airport at the Pharmacy in the transit area. Just walk up and ask for it. The last time I did that, I bought a bottle of 30. I'm not sure if they will sell smaller quantities.

AR[/QUOTE]Curious to know if anyone has tried to get V from the Pharmacy at the Incheon Airport. Also Asia Rocks what is the price for a bottle of 30? And AR you say all you have to do is ask, the pharmacy doesn't require anything else?

Hi,

I know exactly which one you were in. You were in Club Nymph my friend and I fucked that new young one too. She is great. The bar manager, Yumi, has been reported with praise by other posters on this board. I just love the both of them, I think the country should give them each some kind of ambassadorial pin of hospitality or something. I paid 200K for her to come to my motel room and she stayed for a couple of hours. After showering and toweling off she started oral and then I flipped her over and we did doggy-style but I couldn't get enough of her sweet soft round pert little ass so I had her plant it right on my face and ride me which she did like a champ, grabbing my hair, my ears, the bedframe... That was trippy, I loved it. Then I finished off with her on her back. She was just a delight, I'd go back there in a heartbeat.

Yumi was actually the first one to pull me in the door last fall and I had never been in these places. She came out on the rainy street in a red teddy and pulled me in, she shocked the shit out of me! She was gentle, sweet, accommodating all sorts of requests (it was 3pm on a Sunday, rainy, and no business, maybe that's why) We agreed on 150,000 but I didn't have quite enough and I apologized and tried to excuse myself but she took my face in her hands, smiled, told me she liked me, took my money, and fucked the hell out of me anyway. What a great country! Of course I visited her after that and took her out for longer times, but she was the one who introduced me to her young new friend. I no longer remember her name though because I've found some young favorites across the street.

[QUOTE=Candyman2005]Curious to know if anyone has tried to get V from the Pharmacy at the Incheon Airport. Also Asia Rocks what is the price for a bottle of 30? And AR you say all you have to do is ask, the pharmacy doesn't require anything else?[/QUOTE]All the pharmacy required was the KRW equivalent of about $300.

i dropped by miari rld last night about 9:30. i would say about 95% of the shops are closed. a few are wide open and ready for business and some are blacked out with curtains but have some ajumas hustling the alleys and they'll open the curtain for a peek if they like you.

otherwise is was about the same as in the past. i got called a monkey from one ajuma and a shipalseki from a drunk korean man. the shops out front with the hottest girls ignored me but quite a few ajumas welcomed me. unfortunately their girls were the chunkiest ones.

i finally found one girl who looked pretty cute and she and her ajuma were giggly and funny, which is half the point for me. as always the signs said 70k but most of the ajumas were telling me 60k. they kept saying "discount" as they are all pretty desperate for business.

my ajuma asked me if i wanted 2 girls. at first i said no but since i'd never been offered that in korea before i changed my mind and asked her how much. i'd already paid cash for the first girl (60k) and needed to use the card for the additional cost.

she then pulled some hokey pokey konglishee con game by saying yes to all my questions ("so you're just going to charge me 70k for the other girl?" - credit cards being extra - "yes" "so the total will be 130k?" "no, 70 for extra girl and 2 table charge" and so on) she really planned on getting a total of 200k from me in the end. i wasn't too pissed because that's what they do. so i canceled that deal and went on down with the first girl.

she was very sweet and had a pleasant face even if she was a little worn around the edges and not as skinny as i like when she got undressed. she gave me a few minutes of just lying next to me nude, talking, caressing faces, etc.. which is how i prefer to start. then she gave a nice bbbj followed by letting me go down on her. that's a weakness for which i will surely pay someday but to date i've been lucky. she seemed exceptionally clean down there.

finally we finished in the missionary position. i asked her where she wanted me to cum and she said "inside". i asked her if she didn't want to swallow it just to test her but i didn't really care. she "this time inside, second time i'll eat it".

after we finished, she asked if i was ready for a second time but when i asked her if it would be more expensive she said 70k more so i declined.

so the point is mia is not totally a dead horse (and by the way i walked yongsan a few months ago and had a similar experience but i didn't partake. it's still got some girls though).

happy carousing.

A friend got some vitamin V from the Yongsan market sans prescription, not sure exactly where though.

[QUOTE=Cgfog]Hello fellow hunters.

Great posting everybody. I'm planning to visit Seoul in mid-september and looking for a place to shag with a nice Korean. There are so much to choose from. Not sure which one would be the best for a first-timer. Any suggestions? Thanks ahead.

Cgfog[/QUOTE]My recommendation would be that you RTFF now or postpone your trip and RTFF later.

It is all here-la.

AR

Candyman,

Best place to get V is on-line at [url]http://www.rx-mex.com/[/url]
You'll have to have it shipped to a friend in the USA first and then have them ship it here because they won't ship to APO AP's. I've used them several times for various meds and they are very reliable. Of course, you won't have them before our trip to the Philippines on the 9th. I'm sure you'll manage to keep some wood available for all that fine ass running around Angeles!

Yella Man

My plan is to pick some up in AC, I'll proberly come out cheaper. But I'll know where to look once I'm out. You know I have to be ready for the 24/7 action going down starting on the 9th, look out AC here cums the candyman (dick don't fell me now).

AMPM & Sam Katz,

A couple of weeks ago you guys mentioned something about a RLD in BoonDang (sungnam) where girls wear funky costumes (stewardess,etc..) and are quite inviting...Where the hell is this place?..I tried looking for a Sungnam station on the map, but there is no such subway stop in and around the Boondang area. Are you guys sure you got the right place? Wouldn't mind taking a stroll there one night for the f***k of it, literally.

Feedback would be appreciated,

-The Guru

So I decide to try out these cool BBS's in Yongsan, unfortunately I cant find them. one that was on the main street was an Anma and i didnt want to spend that kinda money. It was right outside the Sinyongsan Exit right next to where some buses pull up.

So I go to this other BBS over the road from the red light district going in the direction away from space 9. I have to cross an overpass to get there. Its up this kinda side street and there were 4 poles and it was next to a Norae ban. I walked upstairs and the woman that greeted me did not excite me in the least. Must have been about 40 and chubby. I made my apologies and left.

So i then decided on this Sports Massage place I think outside exit 2 of sinyongsan. There were all these riot police standing outside the exit and I was worried about them seeing me go in, but it was no problem. It was 40k and I thought hmmm Im only gonna get a massage for that price.

So laid me down on the table, she was kinda cute but in her late 30's and it was the worst fucking massage of my life. She hardly put any effort into it. Like no kneading of the muscles or anything. Went for a decent amount of time. I got to feel her breasts at the end and there was no communication because of the language barrier. So I walked out of there with a hard on and decided to cut my losses and just get a BJ from Miya.

I spent another 50k for a blowjob, 10k was so she would get undressed fully and i could finger her while she blew me. One of her more better efforts.

But before I went in there there was another guy in there already, old fat dude. He wouldnt leave. It was uber wierd. He finally left and I went back in. You really dont want to know what the last customer she had just blown was.

I should have just paid 70k at Yongsan at one of the side alley girls. Probably a nicer experience.

*sigh*

Happy G,

The place is Songnam. Some of the girls dress up and most girls do this continuous bowing thing as you walk by the windows. Never saw any thing like it before here in Korea. A Korean friend took me to the place a few years back, and unfortunately I haven't been back since. He paid for the whole thing so I can't speak on price. Also, the experience was much nicer than a regular RLD because my friend and I selected two girls, went upstairs and drank beer for awhile in a small Karaoki style room...naked! The girl I selected was very cute, gave some good oral and could fuck like a rabbit. She even squated, stuck an egg in her pussy and squeezed it out in my glass of beer and had me drink it. Yeah....I was about drunk as hell by then! Great experience! I wish I knew how to get there. The only thing I remember is we were in Songnam when he took me there. Also, we visited several window shops in that RLD before we could find a place that would take a Migook(American). Anyway, if anyone finds the exact location of the place again give me a holler. I gotta go PAY (pun intended) another visit.

Yella Man

Went to the massage parlor in Hannamdong, at the major intersection that runs under Hannamgyo (bridge). If you stand with the river to the right, walk in direction of the hill. The entrance I use on the back street. This is my second time going there. The first time I went was great too, just one girl. When I arrived this time, the same girl greeted me and escorted me to the room. She asked if I wanted two this time, I said sure. Paid twice as much. Which is negotiable by the way. The first girl was a 5, looked to be in her upper 30's. The second girl was a 7, looked to be in her 20s. The both started massaging me, then the third (that greeted me and was the first one had on my first visit) came in to make sure I was enjoing myself, and started giving me a BBBJ, while the other two were massaging me. Almost ready to explode, the massage was over. They took me to take a shower, two girls were in bathing me. When finished they dried me off and took me to another room. One began giving me a BBBJ and one was licking the rest of me. The first girl than performed a reverse mount and just started riding, I fondled the other. When the girl riding came, (or as she pretended) we switched. The third woman (from first visit came in to watch. I heard her locking the doors before doing so. While f--king the lights out of the second girl, the first one started licking my a-hole. The third came in and mounted the girl's face that I was fucking. I began to suck her breast. When the third girl thought I was about to blow my load, she called for a switch. We did, and within a few minutes afterwards, splash. Couldn't hold it with the other two lick my ass and balls. I had to lay there for a minute. They then showered me up and helped me get dressed. As I was leaving, they told me to bring friends. Not sure when I'll be back, so I will at least tell folks.

That threesome in Hannam Dong, How expensive was it?

[QUOTE=Nedski]That threesome in Hannam Dong, How expensive was it?[/QUOTE]The third girl was involved in the cost. Just the two. My guess is she got horny and decided to join. I had been with her at least twice before. It is true that if you build a repoir with some of these places, no telling what could happen.

I've been in Korea for about a year and haven't heard of any of these places. I suppose the right friends can make all the difference eh? Anyhow, I was wondering if any of you guys want to meet and hit up these places. I'm a Gyopo and my Korean isn't perfect but I think it is enough for us to get around.

Maybe we can get into those "no foreigners" allowed places since you would be with a Gyopo? Who knows, let me know.

[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]The third girl was involved in the cost. Just the two. My guess is she got horny and decided to join. I had been with her at least twice before. It is true that if you build a repoir with some of these places, no telling what could happen.[/QUOTE]DI,

Assume you meant to report that the third girl was NOT included in the cost. So, what did it cost?

Thanks,

AR

Dark, you didnt answer the question!

You said you paid twice as much, so how much was one then? Like the base price?

Doesn't anyone know where I can meet some Russian or Eastern European girls?

[QUOTE=Business Class]Hey guys,

I visit Seoul about once a month on business. Just wanted to let you know that my "go to" BBS is still going strong, but it's noticeably more cautious since the crackdown.

Now I'm not sure if they're foreigner friendly since I'm Korean-American. But my Korean is okay, but definitely not fluent.

If you want to give it a try, it's across the street from the COEX between the Intercontinental (the new one) and the airport bus terminal. In fact, there are three BBS's to be seen across the street from the terminal, all within a 100m walk. The one I'm referring to is the furthest on the right to the north, near the Outback Steakhouse. When you reach the poles, you have to walk another 20 meters down the side street until you see it on the right side, next to a club called "Shall We". The BBS in the basement.

My latest visit was around 1am. Was escorted to the massage cubicle where I disrobed and paid the 90000K for the "special" massage. Once ready, in walks a 23ish gal (face: 7, breast: 8, body: 8) who gave a great massage. During the massage, she'd flirt with Mr. Happy by brushing against it time to time. After a 30-minute rubdown, here comes the BBBJ. After donning the protection, she hops on for a great ride. Although she was far from GFE, she was into the FS and didn't disappoint.

They are definitely more cautious as I could hear the gal telling the papasan to keep an eye out, just before she came back to give me FS.

By the way, if you didn't know, many of these places offer a good night's rest if you arrive late. No extra charge from this place.

My two cents.

BC[/QUOTE]


I tried that place last time I was in Seoul. Very awkward experience. I don't speak a word of Korean but they let me in anyways, writing the amount they are asking on a piece of paper.

In my case it was 120.000 Won, maybe they have a premium for western guys.

I was led to some area only separated by curtains, no real door. I laid down on a massage table my feet hanging in some kind of sink (man my ankle hurt) when a decent young girl starting to massage me. All of a sudden the older lady from the reception joined in to help her with the massage. I prayed that she would not start something else that would have killed my arousal.

After the massage was done (poor) the young one started riding me on top, or at least she intended. She started to complain like "too big", etc... and finished me with a CBJ, which of course is somewhat little satisfactory.

All in all pretty poor experience.

I will be visiting Seoul in early october 2005. Would much appreciate if can shed some light on the nightspots to visit.

Thanks

Brother Hitman,

Sorry to hear about your experience. Clearly, this place has a bias against westerners. You're right about your experience all the way through the sink. I'm pretty tall for an Asian, so it bothered me, too. I have always received BBBJ and then covered FS, usually cowgirl. The fact that they charged you 120k is a ripoff.

Hope it gets better for you out there.

BC

[QUOTE=Khk10]Doesn't anyone know where I can meet some Russian or Eastern European girls?[/QUOTE]There are a large number the hang out in the Itaewon Club area, there are a few russian clubs on the street disecting hooker hill. If you like to hang out in the middle of the week. The Hilton's night club has a ladies night and lot of them hang out there, as well as others. Pretty nice time each time I go, ladies drinks are free, so they come.

[QUOTE=Nedski]Dark, you didnt answer the question!

You said you paid twice as much, so how much was one then? Like the base price?[/QUOTE]Price is negotiable. Each time I have gone it has been different.

Thanks to you Dark Imperious, I did try this place, the price I paid was 60,000W plus $10,000W tip to the girl. There is another Barber Shop a little ways down from this one too. All in all, a good time but nothing on the exceptional scale.

[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]Price is negotiable. Each time I have gone it has been different.[/QUOTE]

Dark Imperious,

You didn't even get to shoot twice with three chicks? Was it 180x2 for 3 girls?

In and Out Massage has reversed themselves and are now accepting foreigners again. Same set up as before but the guy at the door and the girl tell you not to touch. Held out until she starting to choke the chicken and then I had to hold on to her ass she had almost in my face, but by then she too was ignoring the no touching rule.

I always wondered about the economics of these places not accepting foreigners, especially at In and Out, I mean it’s not like they ever had a full house when I visited them. However it may have had something to do with the Cops why they were refusing service to foreigners. Whatever the reasoning, hopefully no one will do anything stupid to have them reverse themselves again.

Maybe someone else can check on some of the other popular massage joints downtown to see what the status is there. The best part about this place to me is that you get a good hour massage from a young good looking Korean as opposed to some of the barber shops/massage joints where some of the girls look old enough to be my mother.

[QUOTE=AMPM]Dark Imperious,

You didn't even get to shoot twice with three chicks? Was it 180x2 for 3 girls?[/QUOTE]I was there a long time before I got the shot off. Hit it and split. Other places to go. I don't like to spend to much time in one spot. I am set for the next time I visit. 180x2. That's an overnighter.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]In and Out Massage has reversed themselves and are now accepting foreigners again. Same set up as before but the guy at the door and the girl tell you not to touch. Held out until she starting to choke the chicken and then I had to hold on to her ass she had almost in my face, but by then she too was ignoring the no touching rule.

I always wondered about the economics of these places not accepting foreigners, especially at In and Out, I mean it’s not like they ever had a full house when I visited them. However it may have had something to do with the Cops why they were refusing service to foreigners. Whatever the reasoning, hopefully no one will do anything stupid to have them reverse themselves again.

Maybe someone else can check on some of the other popular massage joints downtown to see what the status is there. The best part about this place to me is that you get a good hour massage from a young good looking Korean as opposed to some of the barber shops/massage joints where some of the girls look old enough to be my mother.[/QUOTE]They were doing it topless before they stopped letting foreigners in, is this still the case?

Only when she started play-time did she go topless, she remained dressed during the massage.


[QUOTE=Mickey Race]They were doing it topless before they stopped letting foreigners in, is this still the case?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]There are a large number the hang out in the Itaewon Club area, there are a few russian clubs on the street disecting hooker hill. If you like to hang out in the middle of the week. The Hilton's night club has a ladies night and lot of them hang out there, as well as others. Pretty nice time each time I go, ladies drinks are free, so they come.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dark. What night is ladies night?

[QUOTE=Khk10]Thanks Dark. What night is ladies night?[/QUOTE]Sorry about that. Wednesday nights. Get there b/w 9-10 so you can post yourself when they come in. Oh yeah, if you drink do most of it before you get there. The drink prices increase as the night goes on.

Arrive late afternoon and leave the following night. Info on a decent hotel and of course where to find lovely ladies & massage parlors in the short time I'll be there would be great.

Maybe some some site seeing recommendations also.

Does one need a visa (American citizen)?

Much appreciated!

This question has been asked more than enough on this thread. Go back to read pages 5 and 6 and scroll back some more pages, the answer is still the same.

[QUOTE=Artisto Art]Arrive late afternoon and leave the following night. Info on a decent hotel and of course where to find lovely ladies & massage parlors in the short time I'll be there would be great.

Maybe some some site seeing recommendations also.

Does one need a visa (American citizen)?

Much appreciated![/QUOTE]

Has anyone been to Miss Young's? If so what is your experience. If you haven't, watch yourself. They will get you to drink with them, but their drinks are watered down, sometimes, they are just water. They are not the only one that do it. When I go there, I just tell them what I want, no drinking. They aren't getting drunk anyway.

I'm due to spend a bit of time in Korea in Oct - Seoul / Busan / Daegu.

Last time I was here was just as the crackdown was starting - the question I have is are there any places left that give the same sort of services that Friends used to (massage / HJ)?

I think I read that Friends had stopped accepting foreigners - but without trawling through every report posted since last year I'm not sure what the current state of play is.

Alrighty then. I decided to treat myself to a birthday present and loaded up with Won and headed towards the Mosque. Went down Itaewon street until I got to the stairs across from Better-than-Beer (not really, they could use some cleavage) Walked up the stairs and turned right. Saw two girls, one fat and the other was pretty nice. Not wanting to buy at the first store I saw I walked on staying at the crest of Hooker Hill. Didn't find a damn thing that was more interesting than the "Pretty Nice" girl I saw first. Went back and entered a "club" called "Fantasies" and motioned the pretty nice girl to follow me. She did, of course, and locked the door behind her and turned on the camera watching the street. She had a cute little poodle that had red highlighted fluffs, not a bad dog really. Anyway, the girl, Miya was her name and I believe I have seen postings in here about her before was quite accommodating. After the initial awkwardness she initiated the negotiations by claiming to be the best blowjob giver around. We settled on a price, 90,000, and hopped across the street to her place. Wooo buddy, first of all she has a great body, I would rate it an 8 for outward appearance but go to 10 for overall usability. For someone who utilizes her pussy for work she was rather tight. Either that or y'all are very little. She was decidedly interested in making sure I had a good time. She started off with a BBBJ and then moved to a CBJ when she thought I might blow a load. Didn't but I was quivering. I stopped her and had her climb on top and she started to go to town. This was very interesting visually as she has very nice boobies. After a while she wanted me on top but I asked to cum in her mouth. She went for it, pulled off my condom and gave me a finale that was very wonderful. Never shot a load in a girls mouth before but that was nice. She gave me a shower after we were done and I was on my merry way. I would say I spent a lot more for a lot less in the States and Germany. This was real good.

Seoul Mongers,

I have been to O2 a number of times, but have not been to the other Anmas like Friends, Orange, etc.

I am arriving around 5 in the evening and leaving on an early morning flight the next day.

I'll leave most of my luggage at the airport, but will still be wandering around Seoul via public transportation with a carry-on bag.

Any suggestions on some other Anma's aside from O2 along with some general directions? I look like a kympo but can't speak Korean. I usually don't have any problems at O2.

Also how early.late is the cutoff for the overnight stay? Since I have an early morning flight, I'd rather get into the Anma by 9 and stay the night, but I don't know if that would be considered too early.

I will be in Seoul on September 23rd for a meeting. Would like to get out and have some fun that evening if anyone is around.

I read today (sept 21, 2005) in the paper that the cops are cracking down once again on the red light districts. So, fair warning.

I also noticed when I was talking my morning shit in the Korea Herald a small article on the crackdown and the figures it effectuated. Seems like the majority of the evildoers were the pimps who coerced the women into prostitution.

More importantly so, other places have surfaced to cater to the needy men of Korea, such as video rooms and even male facial spas!

Be careful out there nevertheless!

Anyone interested in good prices on Cialis shoot me a PM.

Yella Man

What is Cialas?

Spell Check.....sorry bout that!

Yella Man

bump...Anyone have an comparisons or suggestions for other Anmas other than O2?

I'd to like to know if people thought the facilities or girls etc were better compared to O2 otherwise its back to O2.

Anybody been to Miari lately? That place seems dead with all curtains closed. What about 588?


Jan Ang Dong should always be safe in my opinion, those places got hidden buttons that open up a portion of the wall that you would never think opens which leads to the bedroom. It was very well run in the secure aspect. The RLDs are no good with the cops patrolling the streets all day, although native korean guys don't mind them and go into brothels while the cops are walking right by them, odd.


Sam Katz aka SKPIMP

[QUOTE=Adrenal]bump...Anyone have an comparisons or suggestions for other Anmas other than O2?

I'd to like to know if people thought the facilities or girls etc were better compared to O2 otherwise its back to O2.[/QUOTE]If you are in the same area as O2, then, check out Lotto. I posted directions here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=379961&postcount=2294[/url]

I'll be in Seoul next week, so I'll be exploring BBS and Anma's, since I'm kinda put off by the crackdowns at RLD's. Hopefully, I'll get some time off for play...

Seeko

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]Anybody been to Miari lately? That place seems dead with all curtains closed. What about 588?

Jan Ang Dong should always be safe in my opinion, those places got hidden buttons that open up a portion of the wall that you would never think opens which leads to the bedroom. It was very well run in the secure aspect. The RLDs are no good with the cops patrolling the streets all day, although native korean guys don't mind them and go into brothels while the cops are walking right by them, odd.

Sam Katz aka SKPIMP[/QUOTE]Where is Jan Ang Dong?

I plan to be in Seoul next weekend and would greatly appreciate precise directions (nearest subway stop, for instance), and any necessary "how to" information. If this place isn't readily identifiable as an RLD, how do you locate the knocking shops? And do they serve foreigners?

Thanks,

Sukhumvit

It is north of the han river pretty far east. Best Way is to take Chonho Dae Gyo (Bridge) or Olympic Bridge. Where the roads of those two bridges converge (about two miles north of river) are the best places.

[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]Where is Jan Ang Dong?

I plan to be in Seoul next weekend and would greatly appreciate precise directions (nearest subway stop, for instance), and any necessary "how to" information. If this place isn't readily identifiable as an RLD, how do you locate the knocking shops? And do they serve foreigners?

Thanks,

Sukhumvit[/QUOTE]

Look out for the Seoul map called Beetle Map and it's free. Usually available at the Hotel lobby.

It will tell you the places at Seoul.

If you are a foreigner and desperate. Get a local English newspaper and you will able to get some contacts. Starting from Won 100k, full service and massage. Need to ask for what is full service. Or else will be tricked. Can negotiate.

I reported earlier about the nice sports massage place in Shinchon behind Grand Mart. Returned this morning and realized that I had given some wrong details.

The place is not the one with the barber poles as reported earlier. It's about 10 feet to the left of the barber poles in a very non-descript stairwell, but if you can read the sign it says something like "yeosung masagi" and "juliette" in Korean.

Went for my second visit today. Had a very similar experience as written about before but this time the girl gave me her phone number without my even asking. She said, "do you have a phone?" so I said yes and handed it to her. She dialed her number and told me to listen to the song and repeated a few times... "It's my number." Then she told me her days off. She seemed a bit infatuated with me because I guess, as I am wont to do, I treated her with a lot of respect and tenderness. After we'd finished the massage and 'service' she wouldn't even let me get dressed. She just wanted to lay there and make out for a while.

When I walked out into the lobby, two uniformed cops were sitting there sipping coffee. I was a little freaked out so ignored them and played with the giant Siberian Husky that must belong to the parlor owner. One of the cops commented that I was good with dogs. I just walked out without acknowledging them too much but I was thinking, "Oh shit, I'm going to be watched now". Hopefully not. If anything pans out with the girl, which I'm sure it will, I'll post it.

Tried another massage from the Korean Herald. Don't remember the name of it. Price posted was 90,000. I really needed the massage and little full service never hurt. (that cost more) I may have to stick with my regular that is promoted by Kim's Massage. This girl that came was about a 5 or 6. For me if the massage is at least a 7 you got me. This massage was a 5, just liked she looked. I didn't seem like she was rushing at first but when we went to the next phase and she lost her breath when I began probing her, she was saying hurry up come. Then when she came she was really rushing me. I was losing interest because she was rushing. Knowing she was about to dry up, I started to beat the pussy faster. Finally I came. She wanted to take a shower, I told her no, I have to hurry up and leave. She pouted, she received her donation, I opened the door and wished her a nice day. I began to wish I went to one of the four pole places then. Oh well.

Had to spend a few days in Seoul this week on business. Had free time one night and swung by Fantasy around 7:30 PM. Had never seen Mia before but looking for a quickie.

Pretty much what I expected. $50 BBBJCIM quickly negotiated and executed. You guys didn't tell me she had steel teeth. And despiter her claim, only a mediocre sucker.

Grabbed some supper and went back to the room. Called the Lovely Massage out of the Korea Times. Dude took my name and room number over the phone and then called me back to verify. About 30 minutes later Yumi showed up.

Probably mid 20s, tall and skinny. Had a great ass and tan lines. Tan lines drive me crazy. She also spoke english fairly well so along with my Kanglish, we had a pretty good conversation.

Gave a great massage on the bed, followed by a shower, lots of naked groping, BBBJ and then CFS. All told it was about 90 minutes long. Damage was 200k, 90 for the massage and 110 for the extras. Guy wo answered the phone told me older girls were available for about 50k less.

Was very enjoyable and she had great attitude. Will call again.

Was back in the states recently and while visiting an AMP, got a gal who was thrilled I live in Korea. She took my number and told me she would call on her next visit, 2nd week of October. Said she used to work in Gannam (SP?) district and we could go out partying. That she would introduce me to many young girls, "very cheap" and we would have a great time.

Doubt it will pan out, but if it does, will let you know.

Stay safe and happy hunting.

Hey guys,

I am having a 10 hour layover in Seoul on my way back from Bangkok. First time in Seoul and wondering in anyone can point me to a close bar with full service girls close to the airport to make the best of the layover? Names? Maps?

Anything appreciated

Thanks

It will be my first time over there. Any recommendations for complete GFE type girls will be greatly appreciated. Mybe phone number or web site.

Thanks

Anyone down to drink tonight? Its on me!

[QUOTE=Khk10]Anyone down to drink tonight? Its on me![/QUOTE]

Wooohooo....surrrrrreee :-)

Lead the way, oh noble one.

If anyone wants to go drink with me tonight at the Hilton send me a pm.

We can meet up around 9 or 10.

Thanks,

Mike

Anyone down to drink? My offer still stands. PM me.

Mike

Has anyone seen the car that advertises for better than beer dot co dot kr? I saw it around today and went to the website, looks promising. My Korean friend said he thinks it is off limits, but I didn't see it on the list. Any info?

Thanks,

Poon Hunter

folks,

apologies first as i'm maybe repeating a question that i'd posed earlier without getting a reply - i'm sure that this isn't the best website etiquette - but then again i'm in korea for a short time so getting a bit desperate on time.

apologies second as no doubt a few of the other questions i've got have no doubt been asked and answered on here in the past - i'm not really a regular visitor to the s. korea board so may have missed some of the stuff.

anyhow, for what it's worth i've got a few random questions - answers / thoughts on any of them individually appreciated, even if the thought of answering all is understandably a bit much:

1. does friends still accept foreigners? last time i was here i experienced the hj of my life, but it was right as the crackdown was starting and i've heard that since they've changed the door policy.

2. if friends doesn't - is there anywhere else (seoul / daegu / busan) that offers the same type of service - i.e. great 45 mins massage followed by even better 15 mins hj / bj - administered by young fresh looking girls (or at least my (the youg side) of 35)

3. what's the deal with the barbers poles - never managed to work that one out even when i was living here in 1994/5. always thought that 2+ meant possibility of action - however every barbers shop i see has at least 2 - they can't all be - can they?

4. what possibilities at 'love hotel' type places - was thinking of checking in and asking them to call one of the girls from the calling cards rep001tered about for me - although i could see this becoming very embarassing very quickly if that kind of service isnt on offer.

5. keep reading bits about the crackdown - frankly could do without being arrested / deported - i steer clear of 588 / miari type places anyway, but anything else to avoid?

sorry once again for the ramble - i'm in the difficult position of speaking no korean (and looking western) with only a short time in korea but so much temptation around - any help in ridding me of the blue balls much appreciated.

I have read that there is a sizeable RLD in Cheonho Dong. Does anyone know where it is?


Let me know


Thanks


RM

rugby man,

yes, cheonho has a huge rld. however, the dark narrow alleys are not as inviting, lit up, or in-your-face type of places like in yongsan/588/ or miari..

the girls don't sit behind the windows and there's no one to call you in if
they want the business. the windows are covered with black drapes on the inside so you can't see the girls. you actually have to make the effort or should i say "have the balls" to open the door, walk in, and check out the action. i doubt if the girls even speak minimal english. i use to live in the area a couple of years ago and explored the ominous alleys. never went in though.

where is it you say?

difficult to explain. from the main street, keep walking towards "nabi" (나 비) shopping mall, pass it, pass another tiny intersection, keep walking another 200 metres until you hit a t-section (by this time you should have passed all the clothing stores and bars). from here, you can only go right or left. go left (in other words, north). stay on the right hand side of the street (on the side where the cars go north)keep walking. then you will find a small street that turns right. go there. keep walking. you'll see the windows and the dark drapes. literally, dozens of places with interwinding alleys. if you go at night, it's a labyrinth; not for the faint at heart. good luck bro'.

hope this helps. if you find it, share your experience with us..

in general,

what's with this minor crackdown? is it actually happening? went to yongsan in the morning and only like 3 chics in the a rows were there.

+ anyone find the seongnam rld? (right next to bundang)

only the pink subway line goes in and out this district, but which station?.

where to start?..which alley to head down? ay, there's the rub!

happy g

Hi all,

I will be in Seoul next week and, rather than just picking a provider at random from teh Korean times, wanted to see if anyone has a recommendation for great In-Call service. ST is ok but LT is preferred. I will be at the Grand Intercontinental, so please PM me if you know someone.

Thanks HG,


I shall do some recon and check it out. I have heard that the cops are keeping a pretty close eye on the RLD in Cheonho Dong. I am able to pull of this dumb lost foreigner look.


I was in Yangsan a few weeks back. I have only been there a few times. Anyway I noticed what appeared to be a brand new police station right in front of the RLD. Anyway I went for a walk to see what kind of business was going on. Only a few girls were out and there were cops in the alleys and 6-7 standing at one of the entrances. (from an alley)


So it seems like Yangsan will be a difficult situation.



Cheers


RM

I just got back in from Itaewon. As I passed the subway entrance near the Hamilton, I got propositioned by two Korean chicks. The better looking was about 40, tons of makeup, but was wearing the long, black leather, hooker boots that I so love.

The second crack ***** was about 60 and smiling at me. Both said hello and tried to get me in a conversation. So I walked by 5 minutes later, same thing. WORKING GIRLS. A little older, so cheaper, but sometimes you just need a quick release.

Poon Hunter

Check out the hooker boots :)

Hi guys,

Anybody got some info on the Bellagio club in Itaewon?

I have been reading about tabongs and want to know if anyone has any experience w/ these. IE: how much $, where are they, what could i expect. Do they speak english in their?

I would like to try a tabong, if anyone could give directions and info, I would ppreciate it.

Thanks,

Poon Hunter

Hey,

Just wondering. I've been trying to call up Miya at fantasy few times but seems like I have a wrong number. Does anybody here have her digits? If you give it to me I'd appreciate it very much

Thanks!

ad from the korea herald promised massage for 90k. phone is 016-743-8455, name is eddie. gave me the whole speech about 90k is massage only, massage + extras is 150k for a model looking girl etc. i said o.k., come on over. so this girl shows up 30 minutes later, all business (which i don't like at all) and demands 200k. now, she's good looking, no doubt, but she's no model for sure. i have her call eddie and yell at him instead of me, then she says 180k is her minimum. so i figure, let's go over specifics just to make sure my korean princess agrees with my plans. when we get to the bj part she doesn't eve want to know if it's bbj or cbj, she is so shocked! for a measly 200k! why, she never...
at that point i just laughed and showed her the door, but of course i was still horny as hell.

Fortunately one of our members had PM'ed me with an alternate location for service close to the hotel and so I took the 200k I saved and had a great massage session in one of the little barber-shop-pole massage parlors within walking distnce of the.
Seems like there's a lot of them and all seem to quote 90-120k. Mine was 120 and well worth it. Young hardbody, smallish tits and all the right moves. Got teh whole show with soapy body rubbing, Fire and Ice BJ and the she finished me off in record time.

Hi brothers,

I will be travelling to seoul in 1-2 weeks and would like to get some advice:

1. can anyone PM me the address or clear directions (as i do not know korean) for massage & full services... for young pretty gals?

2. Any In-Call phone no., names of gals, etc. that are good?

If good in-call available, i prefer that as it would be hard to find when not speaking Korean.

Thanks for help in advance.

Ken

i have similar experience as you. newpaper ads 100k for full service. on the phone ask for more specific, you will know. fj, my experience is 160k cheapest, look around 5-6, age late 20's., this price is included fj + massage, so i said do not want massage only fj, then 120k. what to do? rabbit that fellow!

go to barber shop is cheaper, with 4 turning (red and white) tubes. no hair cutting business barber shop.

can get one at the air terminal - bus station. just opposite the main entrance.

[quote=captain america]ad from the korea herald promised massage for 90k. phone is 016-743-8455, name is eddie. gave me the whole speech about 90k is massage only, massage + extras is 150k for a model looking girl etc. i said o.k., come on over. so this girl shows up 30 minutes later, all business (which i don't like at all) and demands 200k. now, she's good looking, no doubt, but she's no model for sure. i have her call eddie and yell at him instead of me, then she says 180k is her minimum. so i figure, let's go over specifics just to make sure my korean princess agrees with my plans. when we get to the bj part she doesn't eve want to know if it's bbj or cbj, she is so shocked! for a measly 200k! why, she never.

at that point i just laughed and showed her the door, but of course i was still horny as hell.[/quote]

I visited one night this week at around 11:00pm. The place was operating at around 60-70% of capacity. There was no LE presence whatsover, but there were very few customers around.

OAH

Happy Guru,

Can you be a little more specific? Like when you're talking about the main street, what main street are you talking about? Do you have a starting point I can reference? I am very interested in checking it out as well.

AL

Was in Suwon the other day, there's a nice RLD near the station. I was offered some 60,000 (50,000 even) deals. Cheaper than Seoul for sure. I declined though, no time. Any reports from there?

Where to go these days? Where are you guys going? Any ideas welcome.

I think I can help here. I think he is talking about the street with the Emart and the Hayundae dept store. I still havent found it yet..........


Let me know if you have any luck.........


RM

I think i reported on Izzy which is at the NE corner #7 line 강남구청 stop.

[QUOTE=Jokey Jok]I'm due to spend a bit of time in Korea in Oct - Seoul / Busan / Daegu.

Last time I was here was just as the crackdown was starting - the question I have is are there any places left that give the same sort of services that Friends used to (massage / HJ)?

I think I read that Friends had stopped accepting foreigners - but without trawling through every report posted since last year I'm not sure what the current state of play is.[/QUOTE]

I had to try out Cheong Ho Dong and I have to say it wasn't that bad. I went on a weeknight so they were running at about 50% capacity, but then again, who knows how big it gets on the weekend. The price was 70,000 for cash 85,000 for card. From what I understand, this place used to be known for having the youngest girls before the crackdown. funny thing is that the alley where all the girls are starts right where there is a police station. trust me. They people don't care. Its just if you act like an idiot they'll do something.

[QUOTE=Rugby Man]I think I can help here. I think he is talking about the street with the Emart and the Hayundae dept store. I still havent found it yet.

Let me know if you have any luck.

RM[/QUOTE]

Is this the same place as Jang Han Pyun where the #8 and #5 lines meet? I gave this place 3 tries and 3 times its failed me. Sure its cheap, 80,000 won for a measley massage, table shower at everything else, but they places are disgusting, the women are ugly and they have the worst attitudes. I refuse to go to the barber shop places there. i'd much rather pay the extra cash for the fs anma.

[QUOTE=Love Taipei]It is north of the han river pretty far east. Best Way is to take Chonho Dae Gyo (Bridge) or Olympic Bridge. Where the roads of those two bridges converge (about two miles north of river) are the best places.[/QUOTE]

Went to this rld the other night and I must say I was impressed. Just right behind the Shinsagae Mall around the Yong Dong Poh She Jang station. The girls are hot, but not as hot as Yongsan or Chungyangee. I will say that the service there was premo for 70,000 won. I'll definitly go back and check the consistency, otherwise I'm just gonna go back to the same chick.

One thing that got me was that when we were done, I was walking out and all the lights were out. They said the cops were patrolling so they turned off all the lights and that we'd have to wait for a bit. I didn't mind cause my chick kept fondling me while we were waiting so it was all good. About 10 minutes later, the lights were all on and eveyone was back in business. Scary at first, but it just kinda tells you all this crackdown is just formality.

So that's not really an issue anymore. What is an issue is that every girl I've been with these days have been asking me whether I want to use a condom or not. I'm not talking for just the BJ either. The answer is always yes, but why am I even being given an option? These Korean guys have brainwashed these girls saying that STDs are no longer an issue. Just be careful out there.

Anyway, still looking for that RLD in Bundang. Also thinking about taking a trip to that huge RLD outside Seoul. I heard its only 20,000 won by cab from Ilsan? What about bus or ktx from Seoul Station?

Can anyone tell were I can go close to the Grand Hyatt in Seoul?

[QUOTE=Sex Hunter101]Can anyone tell were I can go close to the Grand Hyatt in Seoul?[/QUOTE]You can use Taxi or bus (Blue) No.402

Yong Dong Po is trash and shady and every night you will encounter the lights being off and cops patrolling, that whole area is known for it's dirty girls.

Chon Ho Dong is OK I guess but it has like probably 5 brothels that are active maybe. Regulars and neighborhood people are the only people that go to this place, nobody goes out of there way to go like they would for Miari 588 and yongjugul.

Save your money for Anmas they are the real deal

Sam Katz aka .....

Sam-

I may be inclined to agree with that assessment and I may be inclined to disagree too. The other day, in a drunken state I decided to spoil myself to a nice massage and screw at a local Ahn Ma in Yeoksam, called Paradise. The price was 200,000 won. This was a good deal more than the 160,000 I was quoted a year ago. Nevertheless I went to the room, met a girl with no strengths or weaknesses in the looks department and got a rushed oil rub and fuck. Half way through I was told to hurry up. That got me a little mad and I started fucking her twice as hard and took my good time to bust that nut. After, I asked them what happened to the whole slow seduction of it, plus I remembered that there should've been a blind massage prelude. They said it was just a service. Hmph. What a waste, I thought as I left. On my way home I calculated and re-calculated just how many Thai hookers I could've bought that though uglier would have left me warm and fuzzy afterward.

On the other hand I can think back to a visit I made to Paradise in Jang An Dong which blew my mind, about 9 months ago. It was unrushed and the girl was mega hot.

So use caution. The word from my Korean friend is that there is a place called Temple around Jang An Dong and it's the bomb. I'm not sure of the foreigner status of the place, but if you can get a service there you will have every need catered to. But personally I think that a nice Thai girl is both friendlier and much better in bed. In fact, I'm yet to meet any Korean girl who is better in bed than your average Thai.

Someone asked earlier about Friends. Don't bother. It's not that the owner doesn't like foreigners or doesn't want them. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's just that some fool on the Korean WSG has made trouble for his shop. Who knew that handjobs carried risk from dirty foreigners eh? Maybe some eraser dick is scared the girls will laugh when he whips it out after the comparison. Anyway, there's nothing special there these days so you're not really missing out on anything.

It seems that there's fun to be had everywhere but Korea these days...

I am trying to find a place to go to find a SW or a BBS within walking distance of the Grand Hyatt in Seoul.

Can anyone tell me were to go. I will be happy to report back.

I have never been in Seoul before so I have no idea of how to get around.

[QUOTE=Sex Hunter101]Can anyone tell were I can go close to the Grand Hyatt in Seoul?[/QUOTE]
JJ's, level B1.

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]Yong Dong Po is trash and shady and every night you will encounter the lights being off and cops patrolling, that whole area is known for it's dirty girls.

Chon Ho Dong is OK I guess but it has like probably 5 brothels that are active maybe. Regulars and neighborhood people are the only people that go to this place, nobody goes out of there way to go like they would for Miari 588 and yongjugul.

Save your money for Anmas they are the real deal

Sam Katz aka .....[/QUOTE]Where can you find the nice anmas?

Or a nice free aujima. LOL

The RLD in Bundang is Seonho Shijang (Market). To get there, get off Moran subway station and then take a short bus trip to the market.

To get to the RLD in Bundang, get off Moran subway station. Then you need to take a bus to Seonho Sijang (Market) and then in the back, you can find it.

I just heard there's an active street walker scene near Namsandong.

Anybody else hear the same? Price, etc?

RM & AL,

Ok. I see that my directions for the RLD in Cheonho were a bit difficult to decipher for you guys.

Here goes:

When I said "the main street," I meant the narrow, yet busy, one that has the "Nabi" shopping center on it. NOT, i repeat, NOT the one with the Hyundai department store and E-mart. Actually, if you hit E-mart, just keep walking down the sidewalk towards the Face Shop and follow through until you hit the first small one way street I'm talking about. You'll see cars going out of this "one way" street. From here, just follow my directions as I mentioned before...In short, from here, go East, pass the Nabi shopping center (looks like Migliore), hit T-section, go North, then turn right into the small street.

Hope this helps.

Fly Pelican,
Thanks for the Info on Bundang. Finally! I will check it out soon.

Just a thought, you guys should take a leisure tour around Hyundai Department store's cosmetics section in Cheonho. Wow, the girls here are phenomenally beautiful. I always wondered how much they get paid per hour to look so f***ing hot, lonely, bored, and provide eye candy for us horny folk. Same goes for the sexy Supermarket outfits. How the hell do the managers get away with this stuff? And the women don't even complain about exploitation in this country. Hey, don't get me wrong, I enjoy every minute of it when I go shopping. Just curious about this Koreanism.

Lead out,

Happy G.

[QUOTE=Happy Guru]Wow, the girls here are phenomenally beautiful. I always wondered how much they get paid per hour to look so f***ing hot, lonely, bored, and provide eye candy for us horny folk. Same goes for the sexy Supermarket outfits. How the hell do the managers get away with this stuff? And the women don't even complain about exploitation in this country.[/QUOTE]Yes, they do complain. You must not speak Korean.

she has a great body, speaks English, in her early 30's has a great set of tits and great ass! she charges good rates , no rush, easy going, real GFE
pm me if you are interested in having a wild night in seoul..
you wont be dissappointed believe me..
she has the figure, she speaks the language, has the assets, and fucks like minx! not to mention a nice face!! she works during the day as a cpa but moonlights at night. as many do..economy and all .. anyway..
pm me if you are interested and I will pass your details onto her..

Just curious if anyone has any idea where I can find any tea rooms or karaoke sex places or bath houses and lastly booking clubs. I also need the location if you can.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Clr Sout]Just curious if anyone has any idea where I can find any tea rooms or karaoke sex places or bath houses and lastly booking clubs. I also need the location if you can.

Thanks[/QUOTE]There are 2 really good booking clubs. Boss at the Sunshine Hotel and Juliannas at the Elle Lui Hotel. Make sure you go very late though. From 6p to about 1 or 2 you will find alot of young college kids looking for a significant other. later you will find alot of room salon girls coming in after work.

[QUOTE=Seoulman]she has a great body, speaks English, in her early 30's has a great set of tits and great ass! she charges good rates , no rush, easy going, real GFE
pm me if you are interested in having a wild night in Seoul.

You wont be dissappointed, believe me.

she has the figure, she speaks the language, has the assets, and fucks like minx! not to mention a nice face!! she works during the day as a cpa but moonlights at night. as many do. Economy and all.

Anyway, PM me if you are interested and I will pass your details onto her..[/QUOTE]Do you have any pictures or link to a web site. I 'll be in Korea next week. Can you PM her contact information.

Thanks

Been there and could not spot it.

[QUOTE=AMPM]I just heard there's an active street walker scene near Namsandong.

Anybody else hear the same? Price, etc?[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info on the booking clubs, but is there any tea rooms or karaoke sex places?

Thanks

What is a booking club? What costs are involved?

Thanks

I have been browsing the reports on this forum to find where I can go in Seoul to find sex, and especially soapy massage. I was in Seoul over a year ago and could not find soapy place. If any of you can post here or PM me with updated info on Seoul since I am sure a lot has changed in the last year or so I would really appreciate it as I will be there in a few weeks.

From last years experience I tried 'barber shops' and had variable experience from very liberal service (near Haewha and Gangnam subway areas) to them appearing very wary of me being a foreigner. If I learn anything useful on this trip I will post it on the forum when I get back.

Is there absolutely no action in Korea any more? This thread is loaded with nothing but silly questions after questions. Oddly enough, there are few if any follow-up reports from the posters who ask these questions and get an answer. There has to be somebody other than Miya that we can write about, such a shame, this used to be such a lively place. At this stage, make it up if you have to but stop with the questions.

Btw, are foreigners still being serviced at Yongsan RLD? :rolleyes:

[quote=run mann]is there absolutely no action in korea any more? this thread is loaded with nothing but silly questions after questions. oddly enough, there are few if any follow-up reports from the posters who ask these questions and get an answer. there has to be somebody other than miya that we can write about, such a shame, this used to be such a lively place. at this stage, make it up if you have to but stop with the questions.

btw, are foreigners still being serviced at yongsan rld? :rolleyes:[/quote]mann,

i'm sorry to have to answer your request for more informative posts with what will sound uninformative. however, i do want to respond.

i've been in korea almost without interruption for nearly five years now. most of that time was spent in seoul, though i'm now in busan, and will be here through next summer.

the rld girls were truly my "sisters of mercy" during the first few years. some of my visits to yongsan, in particular, were just extraordinary: gfe, with lots of french kissing and hugging and groping, and pumping like mad until totally satisfied. then a goodbye kiss, an embrace, a "come again," and all for about 60 usd! i lived for these visits. they kept me sane.

since the crackdown, my sex life here is reduced to a farce.

i sought out the haeundae rld, swung by four or five times, in fact. every single damn time, the police were out there patrolling, the pink lights all out. i'm bold, but not bold enough to walk right into a prison cell.

checked out texas street. tried a massage, but nothing "special" was on offer. nice massage, for about 50 usd, but nothing more.

tried a sports massage place. i was laughed right out the door. "sorry! foreigner!" they might as well have said.

tried a tabang. i was shown to a table and then completely ignored. couldn't even get a glass of tea, let alone anything more.

so i finally got a tip from a fellow expat on a local massage parlour (suyoung subway station in busan, exit 7, third floor right ahead of you as you emerge.)

the first time i had a so-so experience. so-so massage from a so-so-looking youngish woman followed by sex in the bathroom, too slippery and uninspired (on her part) to be much fun. besides, the cubicle smelled of mold. not fun.

i went back a couple of weeks later. (desperation leads you to . . . desperate acts, it would seem.)

got the same girl. even worse service. she ranted in korean about how fat she is (not at all fat, really, more like anorexic, if anything), and then showed me the scars on her torso where she hits herself to knock out the fat. somehow i hadn't noticed them before. even through the language barrier (my korean being just rudimentary), i was picking up a very nutty vibe. it felt as though i was preying on a girl locked up in a mental institution: very, very much a turnoff, since i do like to at least imagine i have some some sense of ethics, and while i may be a customer, am not a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url]. she played dead in the bathroom later on, and i couldn't come.

a month went by, and i must have been truly at wits end, because i went back to that place yet again. in fairness to myself, i had spotted one cutey working there and thought that i'd go on the gamble that i'd get her this time.

instead, i got "new girl,", who enthusiastically told me that this was her first day on the job. (neither miss cutey nor miss batty was anywhere in sight when i entered. i then lay facedown on the massage table as miss new girl went to work.)

a menopausal ajumma helped out with the massage, instrucing newbie all the time on procedure.

from beneath my facecloth, i caught a glimpse of twelve-inch calves on the new girl, and knew that something was desperately wrong.

sure enough, i was later confronted, in the bathroom, with the sight of a ghastly, 200-pound young agasshi au naturel. i may be distorting her weight somewhat. two hundred fifty might be closer to the truth.

i don't even want to remember what happened next. suffice it to say that i left unsatisfied, and will absolutely never again return there. (hell, miss fatty should be paying me for the privilege. seriously not an exaggeration: here's a woman who probably couldn't get sex if she paid for it, and so now . . . she's getting paid for it? something's seriously effed up here!)

if i were more enterprising, adventurous, less adverse to the possibility of jail time and/or deportation, i suppose i'd go exploring a bit more (as by necessity, i eventually will), but in the meantime i'm sad to have to report that south korea is now hell on earth for the single man.

thanks a lot to the so-called "liberal" government now running this place. the old-time corrupt conservatism, which turned a blind eye to so much whenever the right price was paid, was so much better.

sam

p.s. anyone with info on busan, care to help me out? i need precise information. thanks.

Well, you can still get a sports massage at the Capital Hotel near Itaewon, although this is usually handjob or simulated sex only, for about 180,000 (IIRC). Many of the others (hamilton, Kaya) have shut down, either because of the crackdown or just for other business reasons. The Hamilton was my favorite due to the full service and the fact I had a regular girl there, but unforunately it is no more.

I have not been there for a few months, but it is a nice experience if you can afford it.

Lately, I have been more into the barbershop experience. It's close to a sports massage without the bath/shower, and I've found a place that employs some young tight gals, so for 1/3 the price of a sports massage, I can have 80% of the experience.

I was at Yongsan for a walk through a few weeks ago. I got a few touts from girls in the back and off to the side. Anyway the place was crawling with cops so it might be risky. There were cops at the entrance and also in the narrow passage ways.


Hope this helps


RM

News from Seoul:

- In and Out are now refusing foreigners again

- Yongsan: some cops here and there, some action in the A row (not for us of course) and a few girls in the B rows but weird vibe, too risky I think.

I have absolutely no idea where to go as I refuse to go to Itaewon.

I used to live there so i kinda know the area. anyway i proceded to knock on the cafe doors up around the station. Sorry you got to walk away from the station towards Jungge. There are all these cafes off to your left. I oppened and asked how much. Most of them said W50,000 (kibbun) I passed on most of them, because I had a feeling I would get nothing for my money. anyway I come to one where the young girl says W30,000. i looked at her and she was quite cute. Probably an 8

I said Ok and went in. My Korean is passable so i managed to set a good mood. Payed my "sonbul". They were flattered that i knew the word, and went and got the beer. the cute one sits down next to me with her minidress and the other one sits opposite me. They pour me a drink, and in a minute I opened my pants pulled it out and grabbed the girls hand and put it on my dick. She rubbed it nicely. The other one reached over and said "nice". she got called away by another customer, so we were left alone. I proceded to stick my hands in her pants, and got a nice hand full. She kept edging over to me, so i took this as a sign that she might give me a blow job. I moved her head to wards my dick, and she moved to the table and rinsed her mouth and then proceeded to give me anexcellent blow job. remmember this was all for w30,000. i had to force myself not to come, because I didn't want it to be over. She really went at it. Anyway i started a conversation with her to stop from cming. was great.

after that she wanted to go to the toilet, so she grabbed me and told me to come with her. great I PISSED IN THE CORNER AND SHE DID HER BIT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO ME. She had a nice enough body though and was kinda nice, so i enjoyed being there with her. She then yanks off her pants and proceeds to wash herself between her legs. interesting. i tried to reach up from behind her under her bum to help. She brushed my hand away. Too bad

went back and asked her if she would lick my arse. She says in a loud voice "OK". she motioned me to pull my pants down and position my arse for her. I readily obliged, and man she gave me anexcellent tongue job. It was great.

I pulled my pants up and she then leaned against me with her legs apart. i then proceded to stick my finger up her as far as I could. She just leaned back against me with her legs apart and said "no Problem"

real great. had my arse licked again in the next 15 minutes, and decided to ^call it quits. found out that she was a mus^ic student. gave me her number

[QUOTE=Red 73]Well, you can still get a sports massage at the Capital Hotel near Itaewon, although this is usually handjob or simulated sex only, for about 180,000 (IIRC). Many of the others (hamilton, Kaya) have shut down, either because of the crackdown or just for other business reasons. The Hamilton was my favorite due to the full service and the fact I had a regular girl there, but unforunately it is no more.

I have not been there for a few months, but it is a nice experience if you can afford it.

Lately, I have been more into the barbershop experience. It's close to a sports massage without the bath/shower, and I've found a place that employs some young tight gals, so for 1/3 the price of a sports massage, I can have 80% of the experience.[/QUOTE]How bout a PM with the location of the place where it is 1/3 the price and the tight gals are.

I am in Gangnam, not much here.

I was told in the empire hotel there are russian girls for money in the bar there. Been there twice. place was empty.

The club at the Sunshine Hotel mentioned before sucks. There is a sign out side, no Booking and i try 3 different nights to get in there, No American Allowed.

Sorry guy.

Still looking for some good places in gangnam, I am a cheap bastard! Any other idea.

Thanks,

Tim

In Itaewon down the street away from the BK and Gecko. There is a members only club. Do anyway no anything about it? Got so bored these last couple of days, I almost went in.

I have visited a few Karoake Bars and have yet to find any good ones. Can anyone help?

Went to Mairi twice this last month, October. First time had a good experience, second time was short on time so left without doing anything. Both time went during the day so was all shut up. Saw no LE just one really old KNP on the edge of the district. I go to the Giareum Station on the #4 blue line and take the #10 exit from the station, beleive it say for the post office. Was dead during the day just old ashumas sitting in the street. They took turns dragging me to there glass houses. Which where closed with curtains drawn. They can be too grabby and you have to be an ass to get out if you don't like what you see. Guess they are hard up these days as I'm a white foreigner and the ashumas where on me like a pack of wolves. Finally found a house with good looking gals in their mid-twenties. Language barrier was a problem but stubble through it. Agreed on 100 thousand won for two. Wasn't sure it was for two girls or the same twice. Turned out to be the same twice, but she was a pretty good lay. Started out with a shower before we went to the room. She gave a decent bj and then let me take her in several different positions. She indicated that she would go bare back if you are crazy enough to try. Size seemed to hurt her a little but she didn;t complain. Waited for half an hour after she brought a beer. Wasn't getting impatient, was on a schedule, so ashuma hurriedly brought her back and we repeated as before minus the shower. They were friendly and gave me a business card. Second time i went just out of curiousity without much time and got drug around by ashuma. Saw one smoker and should have took her. But had to go. So Mairi is still there though a shadow of its former glory. Haven't went at night as past experience taught me that they are more receptive to foreginers in the day.

Nate5022,

Good job! Way to join the board and share immediately. Bad as it is over here, its good to know there are people out there still having fun.

[QUOTE=DuneLover]What is a booking club? What costs are involved?

Thanks[/QUOTE]A booking club is basically a regular nightclub where the waiter brings girls to your table all night long. You cant just go up to a girl and talk to her like at an american nightclub you have to have a waiter bring her to you. usually you can set up a date to meet her later on in the week but if you meet someone who is really drunk or just a ho..you can then take her to your place. costs depend on how much you drink. Average I would say 250 to 300 per.

I went browsing Yongsan and almost collapsed. I have never ever seen that kind of quality. This was during the day and plenty of cops. Not that manu chix but those flaunting their goods were amazing. So darn pretty. And since they didn't accept foreigners I can only say "YES!" to the new policy of removing all RLD from Seoul.

It's s darn unfair for korean to sample those foxes and not us. So, in the name of equality I am suddenly pro-legal now :D Never been that before.

Last day in Korea and still hadn't tested korean poon. Got a quote in Gyeongju for 160k for a sport massage that suddenly turned into 250k.. "korean ladies don't like foreigners"... no way I'd pay 250 for unseen poon. Even if the time was 60 min.

Now, time was running out. Went to Itaewon trying to find hooker hill. But since i had no effing idea where it even could be I just strolled along outside Hamilton. Some girls offered ST but none was what I was looking for. If I was to pay plenty of won for a korean poon I wanted a nice one.

And one of the bars on a road from the main road presented the best ride I ever have had. I am now spoiled for live. Never again will thai or philipino pussy be as good as korean.

The girl was 21 and had "worked just for tvo days". Who cares. For me that was a 10. Only drawback - very louse english skills. Paid 200k for a single pop and it was the most expensive pussy I have had. But it was the best.

Just felt so weird bumping her in a small bar, with only a thing plastic door covering the sofa. Ah.. I was in heaven. Well worth it. Last night in korea and the first poon.. was a number 10 in form, flavour and tightness.

Only problem will now be, a trip to bangkok, pattaya or Angel City will never give me the same quality. Perhaps quantity, but never the same quality! *buhuu*

Good news from one of my favorite areas of Seoul. As soon as I got out of the subway exit (not sure, i think exit #2), the first BBS adishee confronted me. He said 200k. I laughed and walked another 10 feet. Another adishee saw that i was interested w/ the previous adishee and told me 140k. In english, i told him that i know the regular "foreigner rate" is 120k. He said ok and brought me inside (DAMN, I SHOULD HAVE SAID 100K). As we were walking in, I heard him tell the first adishee in hangul, 12, so they were working together even thought price fixing is illegal in Korea :)

Inside, adishee tells the front desk adishee 120k, then the front desk adishee tells me 1 hour of service for 120k. ok. Decent deal!

Got the works, facial, finger nails, toe nails, etc. Then she takes me to the hidden room. She showers me, then the soapy slip and slide, then another shower. Then we move to another room with a bed on the ground. Fire and Ice BBBJ. Then the hat. Pretty much any position I wanted. Overal service was a 7.

My bad, the girl. She was in mid 20s, tall, and petite. Small teacups, but great nips. SHE HAD A KOFRO (Korean fro (AFRO)). This KOFRO was huge. It was a little distracting at first, then i realized she did have a pretty face. I would rate her a 7 on looks, 7 for skill, overall a 7.

Words of wisdom for foreigners. Arrive after it gets dark, but before 11PM. After 11PM, the Koreans come out by the masses and the places are a lot less willing to accept foreigners. I know it sounds bad, but the faster you accept it and follow it, the more Poon you will see.

Over all, Janghanpyeong (Janghandong) is money hungry and will accept foreingers, but not when the Koreans are out.

Happy Hunting,

Poon Hunter

Went to Mairi this week, during the afternoon. Saw a few KNP's around Gireum station so went out a diffent exit since they seemed interested in the only foreigner. Went around the long way and ended up at the same place. Hard to describe how to get there but if you go out the #10 exit from Giruem go straight till you find a curtianed entrance before a construction zone. Its the big gray sheetmetal fence, go in here. Forgot to count how many glass houses down it is. Was the same two gals there from my last report and a third. The third was a nice and thin, didn't seem as enthusastic about as the other girl and seemed frustrated at my bumbled korean. Called herself suji, said she was 27 but looked much younger. Gave a good bj and a decent ride for 60 thou won. Asked her about pics and got an extend no in korean that I couldn't understand, think she wanted to know why. Could have snuck a couple I thinks as she kept her eyes closed most of the action. maybe next time.

Will have to check out 588 one of these days.

What is the status of the action on the Hill, with the crackdown going on in Korea? Is there anything going on? Does anybody know if Gina is still working at the top of the hill on the right side?

Ahhhhh.... Gina. Now that's one girl who knows how to please a fella!

You know what? I'm gonna call her tomorrow (number's at the office) and check out how she is. I ain't been in KOR for a couple of years but before that she was always my favorite!

Great service. She enjoyed it as much as I did. SHE was the one who woke ME up in the morning for a farewell pop before she left!

I'll post up "synopsis" of conversation tomorrow.

PE


[QUOTE=JimHart69]What is the status of the action on the Hill, with the crackdown going on in Korea? Is there anything going on? Does anybody know if Gina is still working at the top of the hill on the right side?[/QUOTE]

Tried calling Gina's cell today.... No answer. Might have changed number. Last time I called her was about 8 months ago.

Come to think about it - maybe she's aged a bit since I saw her. Two years is a long time in hooker-land. A girl ages twice as fast in hooker-land as in the real world. Anyone able to update Jim Hart and me (and other bros) about Gina?

PE


[QUOTE=Peter Eastwest]Ahhhhh.... Gina. Now that's one girl who knows how to please a fella!

You know what? I'm gonna call her tomorrow (number's at the office) and check out how she is. I ain't been in KOR for a couple of years but before that she was always my favorite!

Great service. She enjoyed it as much as I did. SHE was the one who woke ME up in the morning for a farewell pop before she left!

I'll post up "synopsis" of conversation tomorrow.

PE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seoulman]she has a great body, speaks English, in her early 30's has a great set of tits and great ass! she charges good rates , no rush, easy going, real GFE
pm me if you are interested in having a wild night in Seoul.

You won't be dissappointed believe me.

She has the figure, she speaks the language, has the assets, and fucks like minx! not to mention a nice face!! she works during the day as a cpa but moonlights at night. as many do..economy and all. Anyway.

PM me if you are interested and I will pass your details onto her..[/QUOTE]Been in Korea for over two weeks now. Might be in Seoul next week. What are the details? PM me. Thanx.

OK you guys.This is the way it happened just like I said. I got my directions wrong. Sorry. As you walk away from the station towards Junnge. You gotta look to your right. You gotta cross over a very big intersection. dont turn right at the joints near the station. Theyre old hags. Keep going like I said untill you cross over the intersection (its a major one). after crossing keep looking down the streets on your right until you see the cafes. It will be on the first street with the cafes that you see. Walk down that street on your right and it will be the first on your left.

Might add that when the two of us walked into the toilet together, the other girl was a bit startled. Korean guy she was with was just drinking and didnt give a heck. He actually yelled a lot of translated words from Korean to English back to our booth to help us a long. I guess he got sick of listening to my mangled Korean and her mangled English.

we were served the ojingaa with the white sauce and the red sauce. I actually had her dress down around her waist for a while, so I plopped a blob of the white sauce on her brests and sucked it off. boy did she moan

There are quite a few cafes like that in the area. cross over to the other side of the street and walk towards jungge again, but turn left at the next intersection. there is a whole swag of cafes down the way there. Check em out. If you like what you see, and your in the right mode (not Drunk and presentable) then you can probably jew their price down a bit

Nowon Station

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I used to live there so i kinda know the area. anyway i proceded to knock on the cafe doors up around the station. Sorry you got to walk away from the station towards Jungge. There are all these cafes off to your right. I oppened and asked how much. Most of them said W50,000 (kibbun) I passed on most of them, because I had a feeling I would get nothing for my money. anyway I come to one where the young girl says W30,000. i looked at her and she was quite cute. Probably an 8

I said Ok and went in. My Korean is passable so i managed to set a good mood. Payed my "sonbul". They were flattered that i knew the word, and went and got the beer. the cute one sits down next to me with her minidress and the other one sits opposite me. They pour me a drink, and in a minute I opened my pants pulled it out and grabbed the girls hand and put it on my dick. She rubbed it nicely. The other one reached over and said "nice". she got called away by another customer, so we were left alone. I proceded to stick my hands in her pants, and got a nice hand full. She kept edging over to me, so i took this as a sign that she might give me a blow job. I moved her head to wards my dick, and she moved to the table and rinsed her mouth and then proceeded to give me anexcellent blow job. remmember this was all for w30,000. i had to force myself not to come, because I didn't want it to be over. She really went at it. Anyway i started a conversation with her to stop from cming. was great.

after that she wanted to go to the toilet, so she grabbed me and told me to come with her. great I PISSED IN THE CORNER AND SHE DID HER BIT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO ME. She had a nice enough body though and was kinda nice, so i enjoyed being there with her. She then yanks off her pants and proceeds to wash herself between her legs. interesting. i tried to reach up from behind her under her bum to help. She brushed my hand away. Too bad

went back and asked her if she would lick my arse. She says in a loud voice "OK". she motioned me to pull my pants down and position my arse for her. I readily obliged, and man she gave me anexcellent tongue job. It was great.

I pulled my pants up and she then leaned against me with her legs apart. i then proceded to stick my finger up her as far as I could. She just leaned back against me with her legs apart and said "no Problem"

real great. had my arse licked again in the next 15 minutes, and decided to ^call it quits. found out that she was a mus^ic student. gave me her number

You said : I PISSED IN THE CORNER AND SHE DID HER BIT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO ME....

That reminds me of an occasion a few years ago on The Hill. I was just about to go into a bar called The Lantern, halfway up on left side to warm up and I almost knocked over a girl coming out. She was "going home for a rest" because it was mid-week and busines was slow. She gave me that "fuck me for money" look and I said "yes" with my eyes. (Obviously wanted to avoid the barfine to increase the tip.)
She took my hand and led me up the Hill about five yards and then into an alleyway that went back behind the bar. Into her apartment - one room, with heated floor and parafin stove... Real warm inside.
I needed to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] before we got to business and she did too, so we went to the "bathroom" which just a 3 foot by 3 foot closet outside with no door. It was really cold - minus 10C or minus 15F and the place was frozen.
She crouched down and took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] while I watched and then I took a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and I swear the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] froze before it hit the ground.

We had a great session for about two hours unrushed and it was one of the best I have had in KOR. She was young and tight with small firm boobs and she really enjoyed her work and her favorite position was scissors. Trouble is she had some beers there which we drank and of course we had to go out again to take a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] and we had to get all dressed again TWICE because it was so cold.
There was no running water in the room and she washed herself and me with water from pails warmed on the stove.
That was about 5 or 6 years ago. She was 19/20 then and is probably a mother now in the suburbs. Great girl! Lousy sanitation!
PE









[QUOTE=Medic]OK you guys.This is the way it happened just like I said. I got my directions wrong. Sorry. As you walk away from the station towards Junnge. You gotta look to your right. You gotta cross over a very big intersection. dont turn right at the joints near the station. Theyre old hags. Keep going like I said untill you cross over the intersection (its a major one). after crossing keep looking down the streets on your right until you see the cafes. It will be on the first street with the cafes that you see. Walk down that street on your right and it will be the first on your left.

Might add that when the two of us walked into the toilet together, the other girl was a bit startled. Korean guy she was with was just drinking and didnt give a heck. He actually yelled a lot of translated words from Korean to English back to our booth to help us a long. I guess he got sick of listening to my mangled Korean and her mangled English.

we were served the ojingaa with the white sauce and the red sauce. I actually had her dress down around her waist for a while, so I plopped a blob of the white sauce on her brests and sucked it off. boy did she moan

There are quite a few cafes like that in the area. cross over to the other side of the street and walk towards jungge again, but turn left at the next intersection. there is a whole swag of cafes down the way there. Check em out. If you like what you see, and your in the right mode (not Drunk and presentable) then you can probably jew their price down a bit

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I used to live there so i kinda know the area. anyway i proceded to knock on the cafe doors up around the station. Sorry you got to walk away from the station towards Jungge. There are all these cafes off to your right. I oppened and asked how much. Most of them said W50,000 (kibbun) I passed on most of them, because I had a feeling I would get nothing for my money. anyway I come to one where the young girl says W30,000. i looked at her and she was quite cute. Probably an 8

I said Ok and went in. My Korean is passable so i managed to set a good mood. Payed my "sonbul". They were flattered that i knew the word, and went and got the beer. the cute one sits down next to me with her minidress and the other one sits opposite me. They pour me a drink, and in a minute I opened my pants pulled it out and grabbed the girls hand and put it on my dick. She rubbed it nicely. The other one reached over and said "nice". she got called away by another customer, so we were left alone. I proceded to stick my hands in her pants, and got a nice hand full. She kept edging over to me, so i took this as a sign that she might give me a blow job. I moved her head to wards my dick, and she moved to the table and rinsed her mouth and then proceeded to give me anexcellent blow job. remmember this was all for w30,000. i had to force myself not to come, because I didn't want it to be over. She really went at it. Anyway i started a conversation with her to stop from cming. was great.

after that she wanted to go to the toilet, so she grabbed me and told me to come with her. great I PISSED IN THE CORNER AND SHE DID HER BIT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO ME. She had a nice enough body though and was kinda nice, so i enjoyed being there with her. She then yanks off her pants and proceeds to wash herself between her legs. interesting. i tried to reach up from behind her under her bum to help. She brushed my hand away. Too bad

went back and asked her if she would lick my arse. She says in a loud voice "OK". she motioned me to pull my pants down and position my arse for her. I readily obliged, and man she gave me anexcellent tongue job. It was great.

I pulled my pants up and she then leaned against me with her legs apart. i then proceded to stick my finger up her as far as I could. She just leaned back against me with her legs apart and said "no Problem"

real great. had my arse licked again in the next 15 minutes, and decided to ^call it quits. found out that she was a mus^ic student. gave me her number[/QUOTE]

Yongsan was very slow at about 5:00a.m. this morning. It was the worst that I have seen it. There were no police, so that wasn't the problem. The place was just dead. Only about 30% of the glass windows had the lights on. Whole stretches were blacked out. The main rows were lacking, and the back rows even more so.

Are the good times really over for good?

As a foreigner, I headed to the back rows and was quoted W70,000 by a young, slightly chubby but cute girl, and W50,000 by an older woman, but wasn't in the mood, mostly because of the state of things in the area, so I left.

At Seoul National University station, I checked out various barber pole places. I enjoyed walking around and taking a survey, as it were. (My Korean is passable.) I went to maybe six places. All were W60,000, with the exception of the first and best one, which was W70,000.

I went back to that first one, and the girl with whom I'd talked earlier, who was wearing a cute orange-and-black, Bengal-tiger, Flinstone-ish bikini top and little skirt, led me to a back room. There were about 8 rooms in the place. It was well maintained. I didn't see any other girls, but heard one other.

Anyway, my girl's name was Suji. She is about 30, I'd guess. I undressed, put on the cotton shorts, and climbed up on the table. She washed my feet and gave a good 30-minute massage, including straddling me on the table and giving my back a good workout.

She left for a bit, and I expected a hand job when she returned, so I was pleasantly surprised when she came back in and took off her top (nice), put a condom on me, and climbed on top for sweet, slow sex. I sucked her tits. Then she asked that we move to missionary, where I finished. No kissing, of course.

She was kind and cute. Afterwards, she explained to me that the service there is W60,000 for massage and hand job, and W70,000 for massage and sex.

I'd recommend it and would go back.

Directions: If you leave Seoul National University station and go out exit #4, walk about 400 meters to the first barber pole on your left (not counting the barber pole at about 200 meters -- that is for a sauna). It is next to a small furniture store. Downstairs. Open every day but Sunday.

Suji said that they sometimes get foreign customers.

Visited Mairi again last friday, was going to go to 588 but changed my mind. Explored the whole length of it this time, but more then a block in from Gireum Station the place was dead. Saw some glass houses getting torn down, not sure if from the fire there awhile back. Saw a KNP sitting outside of one of the entrances but didn't seem to be paying much attention to Mairi. When I left Miari saw another old KNP Office sitting next to one of the entrances, he just nodded and smiled. Seemed to care less about me, guess he is there to keep kids out. Also didn't seem to care I was a foreigner. But ajuma showed me a girl, looked pretty good, ajuma wanted 70000 won but gave her 60. Then the girl was complaining in korean about it i think. Gave a great CBJ, and then alright sex, seemed it was hurting her and was in a hurry. Alright experience. May go try Suwon next weekend, heard from some fellows who have been there, no details but guess they will accept foreigners.

Keep in mind, booking clubs such as boss are just clubs with regular locals. they are not in the business of prostitution. Go to these places as you would any other club anywhere in the world.

[QUOTE=Khk10]A booking club is basically a regular nightclub where the waiter brings girls to your table all night long. You cant just go up to a girl and talk to her like at an american nightclub you have to have a waiter bring her to you. usually you can set up a date to meet her later on in the week but if you meet someone who is really drunk or just a ho..you can then take her to your place. costs depend on how much you drink. Average I would say 250 to 300 per.[/QUOTE]

Just a quick reply to some of your PMs. Sorry it's taken a while. The girl's name at Juliette, which is behind Grand Mart and on the other side of the little covered market, is Siah. But so far I and my friends have been pretty much equally happy with any of the girls. See my post below for details (Sept. 29 I think).

Does anyone have any phone numbers they would be willing to share with a very well-mannered professional? I would even be willing to meet you over a few beers if you have someone whose number you would share but you want to screen a little bit. PM me if you have anything for me. Cheers.

Visiting Seoul on Thursday - Sunday and looking for some phone numbers.

PM if you have any info.Do any of the providers work the Hotel bars?

Does anyone know what the typical price of just a BJ is at a barber shop? RLD? Or is it just the same price?

[QUOTE=AMPM]Does anyone know what the typical price of just a BJ is at a barber shop? RLD? Or is it just the same price?[/QUOTE]

Any non full sex service at a barbershop would be about 60,000 won. But you're probably going to get it by some 40 year old woman. For 10,000 won more and a pleasant demeanor you can get a really nice looking 20something in Miari.

Would appreciate some more info on the actual local of Miari.. In Itaewon? or outskirts?

N_R

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]Any non full sex service at a barbershop would be about 60,000 won. But you're probably going to get it by some 40 year old woman. For 10,000 won more and a pleasant demeanor you can get a really nice looking 20something in Miari.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=nite_runner]Would appreciate some more info on the actual local of Miari.. In Itaewon? or outskirts?

N_R[/QUOTE]Go to the Gireum Station on the #4 Blue Line, leave the station through exit 10, I beleive. Mairi will be on the right, the alleys with the curtains over them.

I had your instructions, couldn't follow them man. I was walking around for over 2 hours. I tried all possible subway exits. I have narrowed it down to two zones I think you are talking about, but no success.

I needed poon, so I went into a place that literally said "CAFE". It had no name, just cafe. It is in the basement. As soon as you walk in, it looks like a typical anma. It was 80k won and it lasted about two hours (early afternoon).

Very good massage, normal service afterwards. I think if you come in the daytime, you get a lot more time. I didn't feel rushed at all. Maybe since I wasn't drunk, I lasted longer too :)

All in all, lots of shopping opertunities, but a little far from Seoul.

Happy Hunting,

Poon Hunter

[QUOTE=Medic]OK you guys.This is the way it happened just like I said. I got my directions wrong. Sorry. As you walk away from the station towards Junnge. You gotta look to your right. You gotta cross over a very big intersection. dont turn right at the joints near the station. Theyre old hags. Keep going like I said untill you cross over the intersection (its a major one). after crossing keep looking down the streets on your right until you see the cafes. It will be on the first street with the cafes that you see. Walk down that street on your right and it will be the first on your left.

MEDIC,

What is your email address? I tried going to nowon 4 times this weekend and couldn't find it. Even better if you can your phone#.

Thanks

Later I will post some reports about karaoke places and new places discovered.

Hello everyone,

My first visit to Seoul, I cannot speak any Korean. Has anyone tried the services offered on "Massage & Event" cards with call center number? I picked up 4 different cards from the street, they were on the pavement at the exit of one restaurant.

Do they deliver for non-Korean speakers? How much is the charge if they send the chick to my hotel room? Do they charge per shot or per hour in Korea?

Thanks in advance for helping me out!!

You get them for the hour, all you can shoot. I have had them send several at a time to pick which one I wanted, more $$'s then normal.

You can try the bp bbs and offer to buy girl out for the night - I have had good experience there

If you have time and like hunting. Go for the Hyatt you can score amateur or cheaper p4p

[QUOTE=Aerosmith2007]Hello everyone,

My first visit to Seoul, I cannot speak any Korean. Has anyone tried the services offered on "Massage & Event" cards with call center number? I picked up 4 different cards from the street, they were on the pavement at the exit of one restaurant.

Do they deliver for non-Korean speakers? How much is the charge if they send the chick to my hotel room? Do they charge per shot or per hour in Korea?

Thanks in advance for helping me out!![/QUOTE]Hi Aerosmith,

I am in Seoul right now, tryiing to find outcall services but couldnt find any at all on any maps, newspapers, guides etc. I would love to have those numbers that you mentioned to try out.. Mind to share?

Best,

Heroman

Whats a bp and bbs?

[QUOTE=Hanol]You get them for the hour, all you can shoot. I have had them send several at a time to pick which one I wanted, more $$'s then normal.

You can try the bp bbs and offer to buy girl out for the night - I have had good experience there

If you have time and like hunting. Go for the Hyatt you can score amateur or cheaper p4p[/QUOTE]

Yeah I got to that cafe too. I couldn't even find the "hags" on the joints of the intersection. Did we have the right major intersection?

[QUOTE=Poon Hunter]I had your instructions, couldn't follow them man. I was walking around for over 2 hours. I tried all possible subway exits. I have narrowed it down to two zones I think you are talking about, but no success.

I needed poon, so I went into a place that literally said "CAFE". It had no name, just cafe. It is in the basement. As soon as you walk in, it looks like a typical anma. It was 80k won and it lasted about two hours (early afternoon).

Very good massage, normal service afterwards. I think if you come in the daytime, you get a lot more time. I didn't feel rushed at all. Maybe since I wasn't drunk, I lasted longer too :)

All in all, lots of shopping opertunities, but a little far from Seoul.

Happy Hunting,

Poon Hunter

[QUOTE=Medic]OK you guys.This is the way it happened just like I said. I got my directions wrong. Sorry. As you walk away from the station towards Junnge. You gotta look to your right. You gotta cross over a very big intersection. dont turn right at the joints near the station. Theyre old hags. Keep going like I said untill you cross over the intersection (its a major one). after crossing keep looking down the streets on your right until you see the cafes. It will be on the first street with the cafes that you see. Walk down that street on your right and it will be the first on your left.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dark Imperious]I have visited a few Karoake Bars and have yet to find any good ones. Can anyone help?[/QUOTE]Look for places that say "norae ppang" in korean of course, instead of the regular "norae bang". there are also places that say "norae jjang" there alot of ok karoake place right off han nam bridge and shinsadong. Alot of cute girls.

[QUOTE=Seoulman]are you looking for a date in seoul?

I know a girl who is a real fun date.
she is fun, sexy, slim and intelligent
going out for dates or whatever..
no stress, no bs, real fun and just wants to have a fun time.
wine, dine etc.. all welcome too.
you feeling loney? then give a pm , ill hook you up with her.
she is very sexy..[/QUOTE]Hi Seoulman,

I am in Seoul now, thinking to look for some nice girls for fun. How much is her service? And what service does she provide?

Looking forward to your reply.

Thx,

Heroman

Found this article from the Seoul Times about night life in Itaewon and the working girls of Seoul interesting.

[url]http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=1203[/url]

Does anyone have any good leads on action around the Millenium Hotel in Seoul?

I'm off there soon for a week and fancy a local lady.

Hey guys,

Finally found the Songho Shijang (market) RLD. It's in Seongnam around the Bundang area. Sadly, the whole place was shutdown. It almost looked like they had a crackdown there or something. Then again, maybe it was because I went there around lunchtime on a Saturday afternoon. Anyway, dozens of windows and quiet alleys, but not a single girl in site. Not even old hags looking for money. Everything was closed, dead.

Anyway, the whole place looked bigger than 588 (Cheyongyangnee)and more in the style of those nocturnal-ajumma Cafe places with the curtains down. However, some looked like the standard RLD windows that you find in Yongsan and 588. Maybe there's some action happening there late at night, I don't know.

If you wanna have a stroll, here's how to find it:

Get off at Moran Station in Bundang. Take PINK line Exit #12 (not yellow line). As soon as you come out of the exit, there's a bus stop next to a BIG crab place restaurant. Take a yellow bus, going to "Songho Shi-jang" for about 1 km. You will hear the voice message in the bus saying "Songho shijang." Get off, then walk about 300 metres in the same direction of the bus' route. You will pass the market and a small intersection. After the intersection, keep walking in the same direction until you hit "Popey's". Now, turn right into a narrow alley. You are there. At least a hundred windows with interwinding streets.

If anyone has a different experience, do share.

-Happy G.

[QUOTE=Khk10]Whats a bp and bbs?[/QUOTE]It should have been DB BBS ( double Pole barber shop) --- as for the cards or escort numbers -- walk around any KTV and the cars will be littered with business card size escort phone numbers.

Hi there,

I will be taggig along my wife's business trip in Seoul next week. Looking for some daytime adventures. It sounds like Barbershops and Sports massage are the only possibilities I have in the day? Will e staying at the Ritz Carlton in the Coex rea. Any daytime action around there?

Thanks man!

Just went there today and it was in full force. Every shop had at least 5-6 girls and stretched for golmoks. After the shijang I couldn't find a popeyes but I turned right anyway and then bingo. There they all were. Saturday night about 11: 00, girls all wearing different attire like high school and stewardess uniforms as well as import model gear. That seemed to be the favorite look and style.

Went into one place and they take you into a separate room like the ones at miari. Theres karaoke and basic service on the menu is 6 beers all for 150, 000 won. I think there was also what's called at box set where the also do a show for 250, 000 won, but that was way too expensive. I just wanted to see what the place was like. I wasn't too impressed. They take their time with you in the rooms but its still not worth 150, 000, not to mention the commute out of seoul. Just had a mediocre conversation not even finishing all 6 beers and then she asked me to go back outside and wait for her in the back alley. She then took me into a shotty motel room where we did our thing. For me, it definitly wasn't worth it and probably will not go back unless I hear from you guys saying its the bomb and that I just got ripped off.

[QUOTE=Happy Guru]Hey guys,

Finally found the Songho Shijang (market) RLD. It's in Seongnam around the Bundang area. Sadly, the whole place was shutdown. It almost looked like they had a crackdown there or something. Then again, maybe it was because I went there around lunchtime on a Saturday afternoon. Anyway, dozens of windows and quiet alleys, but not a single girl in site. Not even old hags looking for money. Everything was closed, dead.

Anyway, the whole place looked bigger than 588 (Cheyongyangnee)and more in the style of those nocturnal-ajumma Cafe places with the curtains down. However, some looked like the standard RLD windows that you find in Yongsan and 588. Maybe there's some action happening there late at night, I don't know.

If you wanna have a stroll, here's how to find it:

Get off at Moran Station in Bundang. Take PINK line Exit #12 (not yellow line). As soon as you come out of the exit, there's a bus stop next to a BIG crab place restaurant. Take a yellow bus, going to "Songho Shi-jang" for about 1 km. You will hear the voice message in the bus saying "Songho shijang." Get off, then walk about 300 metres in the same direction of the bus' route. You will pass the market and a small intersection. After the intersection, keep walking in the same direction until you hit "Popey's". Now, turn right into a narrow alley. You are there. At least a hundred windows with interwinding streets.

If anyone has a different experience, do share.

-Happy G.[/QUOTE]

You have several options in Korea. IMHO, the best thing is AnMa, which means massage. It's rather expensive (180,000 KRW = 180 USD) but quality of girl-wise and service-wise, it's much better than RLD, Barbershop (I have never tried those because of cleanness issues), collegegirl handplay shops :)

AnMa is everywhere, 24/7. The best ones are in GangNam district in Seoul. They let you feel the heaven, but I don't think I have read a review in this forum about AnMa yet. Has anyone experienced non-friendly atmosphere to foreigners? Or are you mongers too busy dealing with nonpros to try AnMa?

There should be anma places up the a hole in that area.

[QUOTE=Bummer1973]Hi there,

I will be taggig along my wife's business trip in Seoul next week. Looking for some daytime adventures. It sounds like Barbershops and Sports massage are the only possibilities I have in the day? Will e staying at the Ritz Carlton in the Coex rea. Any daytime action around there?

Thanks man![/QUOTE]

How much are those places? How long do you get?

[QUOTE=Khk10]Look for places that say "norae ppang" in korean of course, instead of the regular "norae bang". there are also places that say "norae jjang" there alot of ok karoake place right off han nam bridge and shinsadong. Alot of cute girls.[/QUOTE]

I had a pretty good booking experience last week. Wandering through Chongno I was suprised to be invited by some "pikis" into a Korean night club. (When I called him a piki though he got offended and insisted that he was a "bodyguard". Haha.) Anyway, we asked about booking and he said okay so we tried it.

Got a fruit plate - yee ha- and about 5 or 6 beers for 50,000 won and as promised the guys started bringing girls to our table. The first few were bored, boring and very unfriendly. Things didn't look good. Then one really unattractive girl came over and seemed to really be into me. I was trying to get rid of her but she wanted to dance so I finally agreed, mainly to check out the dance floor action. When she stood up I realized she had a smoking hot bod so I decided to go for it.

Then when we got back to the table, the waiters had brought another girl for my buddy. She was the hottest one yet and they seemed to hit it off right away. My ugly girl went back to her table to get some cigarettes and while she was there a waiter grabbed her and took her to another table for booking so I lost out.

But then, my buddy's girl asked us to go back to her table and hang with her friend. Another round of beer, I think it was about 10 bottles cost us 30,000 and by then my bud was making out with his girl.. and would be for the rest of the night.

Turned out that her friend, who was now my date, was even better than my buddy's girl. After finishing about half the beer the girls left with us and we ended up in a hof until about 5 a.m.

I have a date with my girl next weekend and she's been keeping in touch quite a bit so it seems to have paid off. And it wasn't as expensive as some of the reports here say about booking clubs.

The club is called "Jack 2" in Korean, not sure if that's the right translation into English. It's on the street that cuts through Chongno bar area towards Cheongye-cheon (the newly restored creek). It's the street that has giant piano keys or something installed on the ground. The club is close to the creek on the right if you are walking toward the creek.

Several weeks ago I read a report about someone wandering into a BS and getting amazing service. He ended up shagging the girl on the table and said she was very nice and cute. I thought it was near Seoul National Unversity on line 2 but it may have been Korea U. Can't remember. Anyone remember that? Can you help a brother out? Thought about trying it today but can't find that report?

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Nightlife]You have several options in Korea. IMHO, the best thing is AnMa, which means massage. It's rather expensive (180,000 KRW = 180 USD) but quality of girl-wise and service-wise, it's much better than RLD, Barbershop (I have never tried those because of cleanness issues), collegegirl handplay shops :)

AnMa is everywhere, 24/7. The best ones are in GangNam district in Seoul. They let you feel the heaven, but I don't think I have read a review in this forum about AnMa yet. Has anyone experienced non-friendly atmosphere to foreigners? Or are you mongers too busy dealing with nonpros to try AnMa?[/QUOTE]

There are plenty of reviews already, so I won't repeat them. Just check out the following posts:

JangAnPyeong-Paradise: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=330758&postcount=2002[/url]

Yeoksam-Paradise: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=333308&postcount=2014[/url]

Elise: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=344207&postcount=2032[/url]

Zeus Anma: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=382551&postcount=2311[/url]

Paradise and Frog Anma: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=355607&postcount=2078[/url]

O2 and Lotto Anma: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=379961&postcount=2293[/url]

Near the COEX: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=346390&postcount=2043[/url]

Near Grand Intercontinental: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=359388&postcount=2157[/url]

Jang-han-pyeong (purple line #5, #543): [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=404267&postcount=2432[/url]

Outcalls in Seoul: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=355237&postcount=2073[/url]

Personnally, I haven't tried Outcalls, but have checked out Anma and BBS.
In Gangnam-Gu, west of Seollung Station (Green Line, #220), there is Boss Anma on the south side of the main boulevard (Teheranno), and Wink Anma/Motel is on the north side, in the alley to the right, just before the next big intersection (Teheranno & Eonjuro).
Across from Air Terminal, there are many BBS's interpersed with bars and restaurants.
In JangAn-Dong/JangHanPyeong Station, there is one by Exit #5, and if you head north along the big avenue (JangHanno), you will find BBS and Anma, such as Red Rose, Soap Bubble, Mona Lisa, King, Venus, O2, Heart, and Caravan/Carribean. Note: the names are in Hangul, so it took me a while to read them and then figure out most likely English names via pronounciations.

Good luck,
Seeko

So tried out that Barber shop in Hannam that Dark Imperious described. Man that was not 200 meters from the intersection. More like 100. Also someone said there were two close to each other. I didnt see another one. So I went to the one that said Sports Massage.

They wanted 90k, i said 70, then they agreed on 80.

Got the standard wash, scrub, massage. I had complaints with the shower as she didnt get naked and I felt like an idiot sitting in there by myself getting washed. Like I was 5 y/o again.

Anyway they took me to this other room and she got naked and blew me, rimmed me and fucked me. All covered. She kept playing with my ass as she was fucking me and goddamn that made me cum. After wards she smirked about being a sex pro.

There were two girls there, well women, I would say late 30's to early 40's. Service was overall good except for the shower fiasco. But that service isnt worth 80k IMHO.

Next month I might try an Anma with a Korean friend and see how they compare.

I had a quick sexperience with a outcall in Seoul..with special thanks to Aerosmith2007 who was so kindly to give me some of the outcall calling cards numbers that he has gotten.. (I was a desperate men looking for these numbers on the net, papers etc but to no avail). Aerosmith2007, I thought of putting up my little report I sent you to share with others in the forum, hope you dont mind.. BTW, hope you had a good time with the outcall? I do frequent china once in a while, hope we could share some experience again.. ta!

Best,

Heroman

>> Here's something to share with you. I tried the 2nd number (01692143663), lady picked up said "no english" and hanged up. 01058148007 insisted on USD200, where 01072631560 quoted USD150. Knowing that chances of getting a good deal is tough on cold calling, hence i settled for the USD150/h offer. Due to her limited english, I couldnt really negotiate things like multiple shots per hour. Her vocabulary is only limited to "US150, young girl, massage and sex, 1 (shot)"... I then confirmed and asked how long it takes her to arrive my hotel (CoEX), she said 20min.. I ended up waiting for close to 75min (I called up twice to chase her, almost ended up cancelling it, but then my "smaller" was thinking, hehe).. Finally then the door bell rang, a 5'2/3" girl, look 6, body 6, age ~ mid 20s, limited english.. She went shower, then straight up to rubbing my bro. As I have already lost the mood (waited too long), so I dived onto the bed and get the work started.. She wasted no time, a simple cat bath over nipples.. and hands started to roaming my little brother.. After making it hard, she pulled out a rubber, slot it on and did some rush bj... I could tell then she was really trying to get the job done... well, to cut the story short, all was over in less than 15min... She didnt show any hesitation then to go straight to shower, came out, got dress, and ready to go! Well, I wasnt exactly enthusiatics to keep her longer.. So thought of better letting her go so that I could start getting ready for my sleep..
All in all, USD150 for that, not worth it.. and bcos of that, I didnt even bother to ask for her handphone number.. <<

Ashton,

To answer your question: I wrote that SNU report back on 11/4, post #2440.

If you go, please post and let us know how it was, as I'm curious if the quality of service there is consistent.

Thanks

Thanks Vox. I must have looked over that post 5 times today but the start about Yongson threw me off the trail. By the way, you sent me on a bit of a wild goose chase tonight too. The post is 2440, not 2240 and the date is the 5th not the 4th. Just in case anyone else is trying to find it. No worries, though.

If I go, I'll post it.

Cheerio.

I've been to Seoul several times, but have yet to experience the Ta-Bang scene. I've been to several Ta-Bangs in Ga-Ri-Bong-dong area, but nothing happened. It seemed like regular coffee shops. I was expecting hot mamasan or girls to have a drink with me with some sexual favors here and there. I was also expecting the place to be kinda partitioned for some privacy, but the places I went to were too much open. Did I go to wrong Ta-Bang? I thought all Ta-Bangs give u sexual services. Can you give me some of your experiences?

Thanks

Handi,

I've been going to Dabangs for years and never had much happen. One time, at a Gangneung bus terminal area dabang my friend and I got served by two very young and extremely ugly girls. After our coffee they begged us to go to a video room with them but we had to catch the bus to Seoul plus they were disgusting. Not sure what they had planned for us.

Once in Seoul, an ajuma at a dabang seemed to really be interested in hooking up with me. She told me that she was a hostess bar owner by night and gave me her phone number and told me to come by her bar. I think I was getting some at the time so I never followed up on it.

Why do I keep going back? I just like the old Korean feel on a cold winter day, and the mystery and the small chance that something might happen. Plus the "chilk chup" or arrowroot tea and puree is really good and good for you when you are hungover as a rat's arse. I also found that the smaller the town, the better looking and younger the women are. Seoul's dabangs seem to be all 40 something ajumas. So it is possible to get a really nice looking, good bodied young lady to sit with you for a while.

Here's my advice: Never be scared to ask the women in a dabang, "Hey, do you know where I can meet a lady?" They'll either help you or they won't but they won't be offended. Also, remember that most dabangs close around 8 p.m. I think, so lots of the ladies in them are off to work somewhere else afterwards. Pursue that. Ask them what they are doing after work. If they want your money or companionship they'll let you know.

I'm sure there will be some other good tips on dabangs and the whole "ticketing" system I have long heard of but never seen. I look forward to some enlightening stories too.

I am visiting Seoul for the first time in a couple of weeks. I'm not a heavy duty monger (here in the states) I just like a good AMP style massage. Can anyone give me some advice on the activities in Seoul?

Scroll down and read on this very page Seeko's post dated 11-20-05.

[QUOTE=SS Goldma]I am visiting Seoul for the first time in a couple of weeks. I'm not a heavy duty monger (here in the states) I just like a good AMP style massage. Can anyone give me some advice on the activities in Seoul?[/QUOTE]

Sorry, it's been a while since I've been on here. My computer broke down and I've been too lazy to fix it and can only go online at PC bangs now. And usually when I'm at PC bangs, I don't want to be seen on this site.

Anyway, I haven't been doing much of anything these days, though I did have a nice experience at Seoraksan with some girl from Shangai.

Also, I was curious if anyone has been to Yongjukol lately. In the Paju area. I was there approximately 2 years ago, and there were some hot chicks, but the place was pretty dead. I did enjoy the rimming and shower though.

So if anyone has any info. on this, please inform! And I will report back with my own info. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Scroll down and read on this very page Seeko's post dated 11-20-05.[/QUOTE]

Well, better than saying something else entirely rude.
You know, we don't have an FAQ post for Seoul/Korea, or any post in Reports of Distinction.
With some of my spare time, I can skim through past reports and put them up in RoD Section. However, since I don't monger frequently in Korea, maybe someone else can compile an FAQ...

Seeko

Good thought, but I don't know how much that would help. You have those FAQ on other thread and still get these same type questions. In this case, he was beggin to for it, but that is not my style. I mean if the info you want is posted on the very page you are on and you don't scroll down and read it, why would you do all that work of clicking a link to go to another page.

No offense but I know one day someone will submit a post on this board asking asking how to screw a chick, or if someone else can do it for them. :rolleyes:


[QUOTE=Seeko]Well, better than saying something else entirely rude.
You know, we don't have an FAQ post for Seoul/Korea, or any post in Reports of Distinction.
With some of my spare time, I can skim through past reports and put them up in RoD Section. However, since I don't monger frequently in Korea, maybe someone else can compile an FAQ...

Seeko[/QUOTE]

Ya know, for someone who has never been to the area reading posts filled with abv and codes that are specific to the area dosen't help that much. I've never been to Seoul let alone Korea and there are a lot of places that don't like westerners. I'm not looking for someone to tell me how to screw a chick! so go roll your eyes at someone else!

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Good thought, but I don't know how much that would help. You have those FAQ on other thread and still get these same type questions. In this case, he was beggin to for it, but that is not my style. I mean if the info you want is posted on the very page you are on and you don't scroll down and read it, why would you do all that work of clicking a link to go to another page.

No offense but I know one day someone will submit a post on this board asking asking how to screw a chick, or if someone else can do it for them. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

SS Goldma,

You are very welcome! The sarcastic comment at the end of my post was open and not specific to anyone but based on your reply it now seem to fit you perfectly. Read through the posts and if you have specific questions ask, but don't expect anyone to write reports specifically for you. There are many people who have never been to Seoul or other countries for that matter who read the appropriate boards (with all the codes, as you put it) and survived.

Break!!

Kim's Massage in Iteawon is done, stopped by and the building was empty. The outcall number in the paper was still there though.

I was in one of those dumb moods again today. The hunt was on and I needed my medicine. For some strange reason, I went to the Itaewon (the hill) and saw the same old faces. Miya is looking older. Her normal: 30k, 100k. She said for 140k, she had a "younger" friend (3some). I actually turned her down.

Stopped in VIP. Forgot her name. She was a little on the larger side, but had a nice ass. She said 200k, settled for 120k. I don't know why I did, but I aggreed.

She was maybe 5'8" to 5'10", small tits, HUGE ass. I got a 15 minute lap dance. She was ok. Upon completion, I pulled it out, uncovered, and aimed for a protein mask, but she closed her eyes. Mission complete.

There are a lot of better ones out there, but for some strange reason, I wanted it from her. The hill seems to be dead now.

Hell, for 140k, I should have taken Miya's offer.

Hunt safely,

Poon Hunter

[QUOTE=Run Mann]There are many people who have never been to Seoul or other countries for that matter who read the appropriate boards (with all the codes, as you put it) and survived.[/QUOTE]

I concur. I've mongered mainly in Asia, and prior to going to any location (old or new) ISG and USASG are there on the top of my list of research websites (i.e. travel advisories, hotel bargains, local newspapers online).

Previously, I hardly post, since I can just read the forum, find the places, and enjoy myself thoroughly. Now, I felt that I should contribute...

To new members: I recommend that unless you have specific question for a specific post or want some clarification on a certain venue, don't bother posting. The forums contain "reports," not "messages" or "requests."

I am being nice here. Check out Bangkok forums if you want to see more harsher treatment.

Seeko
p.s. BTW, newbies kept asking, too. A guy just ask for an itinerary for his 20-hour layover in Bangkok. Unbelievable...

Got to Korea late last night and decided to head to the Hill and see what was happen. I would say more of what not happen! It was dead!!! Not many girls at all. Most of them 5 to 6. It sucks!

When to the UN club and this place was just like the hill, dead. The UN club had about 8 girls working, none of them were Korean.

Came back to the Hyatt and when to JJ in the basement and there was not much happen there either. But it was sunday night.

[quote=vox jox]at seoul national university station, i checked out various barber pole places. i enjoyed walking around and taking a survey, as it were. (my korean is passable.) i went to maybe six places. all were w60,000, with the exception of the first and best one, which was w70,000.

i went back to that first one, and the girl with whom i'd talked earlier, who was wearing a cute orange-and-black, bengal-tiger, flinstone-ish bikini top and little skirt, led me to a back room. there were about 8 rooms in the place. it was well maintained. i didn't see any other girls, but heard one other.

anyway, my girl's name was suji. she is about 30, i'd guess. i undressed, put on the cotton shorts, and climbed up on the table. she washed my feet and gave a good 30-minute massage, including straddling me on the table and giving my back a good workout.

she left for a bit, and i expected a hand job when she returned, so i was pleasantly surprised when she came back in and took off her top (nice), put a condom on me, and climbed on top for sweet, slow sex. i sucked her tits. then she asked that we move to missionary, where i finished. no kissing, of course.

she was kind and cute. afterwards, she explained to me that the service there is w60,000 for massage and hand job, and w70,000 for massage and sex.

i'd recommend it and would go back.

directions: if you leave seoul national university station and go out exit #4, walk about 400 meters to the first barber pole on your left (not counting the barber pole at about 200 meters -- that is for a sauna). it is next to a small furniture store. downstairs. open every day but sunday.

suji said that they sometimes get foreign customers.[/quote]

vox, followed your tip and tried this place tonight (monday). i could just about cut and paste your entire message as it pretty much sums up my visit to a t - with a few small differences. but i'll give a full report. fyi: all reported speech below was in korean. no english spoken here as far as i know. price was 70,000 with one complimentary vita500!

i liked the idea in your report of actually being an active participant in the sex instead of just lying back for a massage and bj or hj so i wanted to give the place a shot. it was right where you said, straight down the street from snu station exit 4, second set of barber poles, in the basement of a furniture store. forgot to jot the name down as i was in a rush when i left. it's a pretty dark and grimy stairwell right at the newspaper kiosk and bus stand. maybe not even 400 meters as reported. can't miss it though.

a really nice flirty ajuma and not half bad looking greeted me. i asked for suji and she smiled and said she wasn't in yet but that "there was another pretty agashi." but she said she would try suji's phone to get an eta. she actually tried her about 3 times during which the other girl peeked her head around from their little tv/sleeping room. i thought she looked pretty good but i told the ajuma that suji gave expecially good service. she told me the other girl would give even better so i said ok.

she walked out and had a nice little body, petite yet curvy, small but perky breasts and a nice hourglass figure and great skin under a satin looking lingerie. the ajuma had taken me to one of the middle booths but the girl, (who told me to just ask for "ipeuni" next time) took me to an end one when i came back from the john. i took this for her wanting to be more secluded so i took it as a good sign. her face wasn't bad, not great either. dare i say a 7. but in the low light looked like an 8. she had really nice hair, soft and clean and sweet smelling and a nice style. not typical ironed and permed smelly hair. it was a nice touch and i found myself burying my face in it and kissing her head while fucking her. she seemed about mid 30's. overall i was pleased with her package.

got a firm thorough massage for about 45 minutes i think (seemed longer than previous trips to bbs). first though her foot washing must have been the longest i've ever experienced at about 10 minutes. after the massage she said "sex" and then went out of the room for about 5 minutes. came back with a bowl full of hot towels and lube. she stripped then lubed herself up before washing my whole body with the hot towels. it felt great.

then she hopped up on the table and started to rub my cock all over her face for like 5 minutes. at times i thought she was trying to fool me with the fake blow job thing but then it felt like she was just rubbing on her face for my pleasure. not sure which it was. meanwhile she was letting me run my hands anywhere i wanted, on and slightly in her asshole, inside her very wide lips and into her somewhat dry ****. then she started sucking my head where i could see it so i know that wasn't fake.

then she put a condom on me with her mouth and got up on top to do the squat ride, which for me is a little strange and very business like. too mechanical. but i was enjoying it anyway and planning on changing positions soon.

then my cell phone rang - a girl i met on ub love and was supposed to be meeting at that very moment in gangnam. ( i hadn't had any in a couple of weeks so i figured i better let off a little pressure in the bbs just in case the ub girl date paid off.. i wanted to last) i almost finished the whole business at the ring of the phone so i pushed her off of me and regained my composure. this paid off because then she told me to get on top of her missionary at which point we had a good long shag. she even told me to take my time and "finish whenever it's comfortable."

she was probably faking but pretended to really enjoy it, told me i was handsome and good at sex several times. she even called me chagiya and told me she loved me a couple of times while we were going at it. it was cute so i played along and told her the same and we both laughed a few times while we were fucking. i was able to last a longer without the phone ringing and with my own rythm instead of the squat jackhammer thing.

this was one of the best bbs experiences i've had in korea. she asked me to come back every week. i told her if she's lucky i'll be back once a month but it's more like twice a year at the bbss for me. but the service there might get me back a slight bit more. i asked her if she minded if i pass along the location to some friends and she said no prob.. so all are welcome i suppose.

i probably go into too much detail here but hope it helps. please let us know if any of you try the place out.

[QUOTE=JimHart69]Got to Korea late last night and decided to head to the Hill and see what was happen. I would say more of what not happen! It was dead!!! Not many girls at all. Most of them 5 to 6. It sucks!

When to the UN club and this place was just like the hill, dead. The UN club had about 8 girls working, none of them were Korean.

Came back to the Hyatt and when to JJ in the basement and there was not much happen there either. But it was sunday night.[/QUOTE]Try the Hilton on Wednesday nights. Its ladies night.

I decided to try O2 last night (Tuesday), after searching for it. Realizing I had passed it a couple times when I went to the BBS in the same building. When I walked in there were three girls and a guy at the front door. The ladies smiled, and the guy did the no sign with his hand, and the ladies said sorry. So I left, decided to go to Yeoksam, I stumbled upon the Elise and Sun Clubs. Of course, no foreigners. Disappointed after seeing numerous beautiful women walk in them, even being asked by one to come in. Oh well, so I settled for the BBS. Went to the one that said Best BBS, great message, got a facial, manicure, pedicure, and a HJ, while I fingered her to orgasm. Good thing I have an imagination, otherwise I would still be there now trying to come or my dick would have been beaten to a pulp. I did get the girls number and I will call. Trying to find some good places that don't mind non-Koreans with big sizes. Can I get some help? I also find an area in eastern seoul, as soon as get the name, I will report.

Ashton, Thanks for the excellent report man.

I am definately gonna check this place out within a week.

So ask for Suji or Ipeuni?

Cant wait.

If you wanna know anything about seoul's, ask me I can explain you.

Why I do this kind of thing is that I could be helped by this site when I was in other countries.

That't it.

GG.

Gents,

Just arrived in Korea for a conference and had some extra time last night so I wandered around Itaewon for a bit and found it quite depressing. I then took a cab to the Yongsan station area and walked through the RLD...again no luck...so I found another cab driver and asked him where to find a girl...how about a BBS, I asked. He drove a few blocks over to a four pole BBS and dropped me off. The ajuma inside was not young, probably upper 30s, but had a hot body. For 60K I got a nice massage, BBBJ, and covered FS. She gave me an energy drink and I left. Since I was lost, found another cab (after 3 passed me by) and paid the 10,000 won to return to my hotel.

Have fun, be safe.

Guy

Hey Medic,

I tried to find these places like you said, but to no avail. Are you sure you are suppossed to walk towards the Junghye station as you leave the
Nowon station??...or did you mean towards "Sanghye" station. The place is god damn huge, at least 12 different exits from Nowon station; tons of shops, highways, intersections, Hyundai Department store..etc..
There is only one enormous intersection right in front of the Hyundai Department store. Is that the one you were talking about?..Anyway, in this area it's all shops and Apartment buildings.

You know, if you just give us the exit number you left from, then the journey in search of pussy would be much easier.

Is the "kibbun" an entrance fee??...And what is a "sunbul?"

If you go there again, try to remember the exit number...thanks

-The Guru

[QUOTE=Medic]OK you guys.This is the way it happened just like I said. I got my directions wrong. Sorry. As you walk away from the station towards Junnge. You gotta look to your right. You gotta cross over a very big intersection. dont turn right at the joints near the station. Theyre old hags. Keep going like I said untill you cross over the intersection (its a major one). after crossing keep looking down the streets on your right until you see the cafes. It will be on the first street with the cafes that you see. Walk down that street on your right and it will be the first on your left.

Might add that when the two of us walked into the toilet together, the other girl was a bit startled. Korean guy she was with was just drinking and didnt give a heck. He actually yelled a lot of translated words from Korean to English back to our booth to help us a long. I guess he got sick of listening to my mangled Korean and her mangled English.

we were served the ojingaa with the white sauce and the red sauce. I actually had her dress down around her waist for a while, so I plopped a blob of the white sauce on her brests and sucked it off. boy did she moan

There are quite a few cafes like that in the area. cross over to the other side of the street and walk towards jungge again, but turn left at the next intersection. there is a whole swag of cafes down the way there. Check em out. If you like what you see, and your in the right mode (not Drunk and presentable) then you can probably jew their price down a bit

Nowon Station

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I used to live there so i kinda know the area. anyway i proceded to knock on the cafe doors up around the station. Sorry you got to walk away from the station towards Jungge. There are all these cafes off to your right. I oppened and asked how much. Most of them said W50,000 (kibbun) I passed on most of them, because I had a feeling I would get nothing for my money. anyway I come to one where the young girl says W30,000. i looked at her and she was quite cute. Probably an 8

I said Ok and went in. My Korean is passable so i managed to set a good mood. Payed my "sonbul". They were flattered that i knew the word, and went and got the beer. the cute one sits down next to me with her minidress and the other one sits opposite me. They pour me a drink, and in a minute I opened my pants pulled it out and grabbed the girls hand and put it on my dick. She rubbed it nicely. The other one reached over and said "nice". she got called away by another customer, so we were left alone. I proceded to stick my hands in her pants, and got a nice hand full. She kept edging over to me, so i took this as a sign that she might give me a blow job. I moved her head to wards my dick, and she moved to the table and rinsed her mouth and then proceeded to give me anexcellent blow job. remmember this was all for w30,000. i had to force myself not to come, because I didn't want it to be over. She really went at it. Anyway i started a conversation with her to stop from cming. was great.

after that she wanted to go to the toilet, so she grabbed me and told me to come with her. great I PISSED IN THE CORNER AND SHE DID HER BIT ON THE GROUND NEXT TO ME. She had a nice enough body though and was kinda nice, so i enjoyed being there with her. She then yanks off her pants and proceeds to wash herself between her legs. interesting. i tried to reach up from behind her under her bum to help. She brushed my hand away. Too bad.

I went back and asked her if she would lick my arse. She says in a loud voice "OK". she motioned me to pull my pants down and position my arse for her. I readily obliged, and man she gave me anexcellent tongue job. It was great.

I pulled my pants up and she then leaned against me with her legs apart. i then proceded to stick my finger up her as far as I could. She just leaned back against me with her legs apart and said "no Problem"

Real great. had my arse licked again in the next 15 minutes, and decided to ^call it quits. found out that she was a mus^ic student. gave me her number[/QUOTE]

Another BBS mongering experience.

So today (Sunday) I decide to try out that BBS near SNU. However I forgot that its closed on Sundays. I was sooo pissed.

So I walked around in the cold for like an hour trying to find another one. I gave up and walked back to the subway when I decide to have a look around the area closer to exit 4.

Walking out of exit 4 if you take the first left, then first right then first left again you see a BBS in a basement with like 3 spinning poles. One huge one and 2 normal sized ones. I think well lets try it out and see if we can help find another outstanding BBS experience for fellow mongers.

I walk in and the Ajuma says 60k. She aint that hot but 60k for a massage and a tug aint bad.

She leads me to a bed, lays me down and another woman comes in. Im saying late 30's. I would say she was a 6. But she did give a friggen decent massage tho. Even put this wierd face mask on that smelt awful. But she clicked all my joints tho which was cool.

Since the massage was so good, I didnt think it would be a happy ending kinda place, imagine my surprise when she turns out the lights and starts lubing up my dick and jerking it. Felt quite nice. She wouldnt let me touch her tits tho. I think she had these fakies that you put in your bra. I was allowed to gently finger her tho. I think she also did a fake blow job. Too dark to tell.

She then takes off her underwear and gets up on the table. I feel my dick and dont feel a rubber on it. I say, "Whoa, Hold on. Where is the condom" She says obsa-yo. So I say get back to sucking and jerking me.

Over all it was a good experience for the price. Probably wont go back. But DYING to try that place with Suji and Ipeuni. Might even go there on Monday night. A double treat for the week. I am also going to thailand in January so my P4P action is going thru the roof.

Keep it safe out there.

Just to add in reflection. There were a shitload of Ta-Bangs in the area. Someone go into these places and find out what they are like! I wanna find a decent one!

Hades

Sometimes I think I'm (we're) crazy. I knew when I went to that BBS that I had a trip to the Philippines coming up in a couple of weeks and I'll be able to get three good nights with girls ten years younger, hotter and more fun, all in a tropical locale, for the price of (or less) one hour in a Seoul barber shop. What makes us do it!? (I won't even go into the fact that a week after the BBS trip I was getting some free from a girl 10 years younger and times hotter. )

If you have even an iota more will power than me, save your money! You're just weeks away from poon heaven!

Guys, pls use a jimmy at all costs.

A lot of the BBS gals just go bareback I'd say 50% of the time - and I know guys who have caught the clap, crabs and others... if you've got significant others try explaining that. These gals are very much like freelancers (come and go with the wind) and just don't get regular check-ups like at other places (turkey or RLDs).

I know its tough using your big head in the heat of the moment, but afterwards, is it really worth all of the stress, worrying and catching something nasty? Really it's not worth it.

Safe mongering gents.

Condoms don't protect against crabs, scabies, or venereal warts. Of course, I already have all of those, so I don't care.

[QUOTE=agoodfella]Guys, pls use a jimmy at all costs.

A lot of the BBS gals just go bareback I'd say 50% of the time - and I know guys who have caught the clap, crabs and others... if you've got significant others try explaining that. These gals are very much like freelancers (come and go with the wind) and just don't get regular check-ups like at other places (turkey or RLDs).

I know its tough using your big head in the heat of the moment, but afterwards, is it really worth all of the stress, worrying and catching something nasty? Really it's not worth it.

Safe mongering gents.[/QUOTE]

One more benefit of shaving (well.. it doesn't really work on warts). This seems to be anathema to most K-girls, at least until they emigrate to the West.

I DID have a Korean freebie once, college stuedent who came to visit me in SF on her way to NYC. She was the only native K-girl i ever new that shaved, but she was brought up in the US, so maybe she doesn't count. HA!!

[QUOTE=Paul D]One more benefit of shaving (well.. it doesn't really work on warts). This seems to be anathema to most K-girls, at least until they emigrate to the West.

I DID have a Korean freebie once, college stuedent who came to visit me in SF on her way to NYC. She was the only native K-girl i ever new that shaved, but she was brought up in the US, so maybe she doesn't count. HA!![/QUOTE]

I think most Korean women don't shave since it's a bit of a communal bathing culture. They all go to the sauna. If she has a shaved snatch, she's going to get some weird looks. And Koreans are exactly the kind of people who keep their opinions to themselves. She'll probably be called a **** to her face if she showed up in the sauna with a landing strip. And then add in she might be secretly hooking (to pay off credit card debt) and living at home. What's her mother and grandmother going to think at the sauna when she shows off her shaved pussy?

The notion also dovetails into why Korean women tend to wear granny panties. They live at home until they're married. Mom does the wash. They're rather not have to explain to mom why she's suddenly wearing thongs...

Previously, I gave directions on how to get to the Song-ho Shijang RLD (Bundang / Seongnam) where chics wear funky costumes like stewardesses and Racer girlz stuff.

Nevermind those directions, i have much easier ones this time around:

Take the Pink Line #8 to Sinheung station. Leave Exit 1, turn into any alley.
You are there!

Doesn't get easier than that.

The Guru

Just a question: Is this place in Bundang foreigner friendly? If I can get by in Korean and dress nicely (suit) will it not be a problem?

I'm an american that visited Seoul last week. I stayed at the Imperial Palace Hotel which I heard used to be the Amiga. Directly across the street from the hotel is a place that is called hotel massage or something like that. You can't miss it if you go to the Imperial Palace Hotel and just look out the front door. It is a very upscale place and they charge 180,000 won (US$180) for full service for one hour. Although similar to what I would pay at a AMP back home I decided to do it because I was really horny.

Once in the room the girl came in and told me to take my clothes off. She was pretty short but very good looking with a nice body and did not speak much english. She took off her clothes and told me to lie down on my back. She then put a warm towel over my eyes. Then started applying something to my face which I could'nt see because of the towel. After a few minutes I figured out she was shaving my face for me. If she had asked me before I would have passed but couldn't do anything about it now. Took her 10 minutes or so but its actually better than any shave I have given myself.

Next she put me in to a bath tub filled with soap. She put some kind of cleaning mask on my face while she soaped me everywhere. Then after a few minutes she dried me off and put some mouthwash in her mouth and started to give me BBBJ, while also sucking and kissing my balls. Then we went to the bed.

She told me to lie on my stomach with my ass in the air. She proceeded to lick my asshole and balls from behind while jacking me off while reaching around. Then flipped me over and started to suck me again. At this point I told her I wanted to fuck her. She said ok and put on the condom and started to ride me cg. After a few minutes she said time was almost up. I told her I wanted to fuck her doggy style but she said my cock was too big and something about "korean much smaller". My cock is not that big so I'm not sure if she just didn't want to do it. I settled for missionary with condom to finish and pulled out and blew my load all over her tits. This seemed to surprise her but she didn't say anything to me.

She cleaned me up and said that a man was going to come in to massage me. That didn't sound great so I passed and just left. It was a good experience overall and a very safe and upscale place. I think a good place for a foreigner to go. Have fun in Seoul.

Darius

After trying Janghanpyeong after reading an earlier post and finding nothing there that wanted anything to do with foriegners, got back on the train. Got off at Hak-dong station (dark green line) thinking I would walk over to Yeoksam station area. I went out the number eight exit I beleive, walked about half a block and saw quite a few bbs poles. Took a right up a small hill and went into one. It's in the basement next a hof. Paid 100 and had excellent service. Gal was older,thirtish, but gave excellent service. Not as young and hot a Miari but service and attitude so much better. Walked around and check out the area moving towards Sinsa Station. Lots of BBS in the area and they seemed quite receptive to a white foreigner, of course this was early. A good area for bbs though.

[QUOTE=Darius Miles]I told her I wanted to fuck her doggy style but she said my cock was too big and something about "korean much smaller". My cock is not that big so I'm not sure if she just didn't want to do it.[/QUOTE]Koreans are much smaller on average. The room salon girls will talk about it if you can speak Korean. They oughta know, being presented with at least one penis for inspection every day. Based on what they tell me, the average Korean male has a four-inch weiner. If you have a regular 'ol American prick, you have a horsecock here in Korea.

Things are slow so I thought I'd post a Miari experience I had. Never went to any of the red light districts and this one is pretty close to where I live. I've been to a couple double pole places but never really liked the hags you'd get. 60K won for a hand job and she doesn't even take her top off... sure you can feel her up and stuff. But still.

I thought it would be fun just to see the sights. You know? That I had 100,000 won in my pocket. Well.

Anyway, it's really hard to find and not obvious like Yongsan. It's behind these "curtains". I eventually figured it out and went in. The place was quite dead. About half the shops were closed. The women are all dressed in hanbok-ish type outfits. I like the slutty Yongsan style better. But the women were all incredible looking. The mamasans are outside and kind of say something to you as you walk past. Although this doesn't seem to mean "hey white man, come on in." In my broken Korean I asked a couple if I was okay and got a no. But one mamasan took me. There were two women. One was a 10 and one was a 8.5. The 10 seemed only interested in fixing her hair. The 8.5 seemed to react to the request to screw a white guy with a somewhat comical look but agreed. 70K won. We quickly went up to her little shag room. I got naked. Off came her hanbok. She apologized for her small boobs. No problem. I like small boobs. She also had long black hair in a pony tail.

She wiped my naughty bits, began some uncovered oral, and some GFE. On went the condom, she got on for a ride. I got on top for a bit. She got back on top. I had her sit on my face and ate her out a bit. She went back on her back and finished off missionary style.

Nervous I was trying to dress quickly and get out of there but she kept telling me to slow down. She seemed rather quite nice and tender through out the experience.

I'd go back. For 10K more than a BBS hag, it was great.

On my way to So East Asia I visited Korea for about three times. I visited
the ***** joints but was never able to find someone to be attracted to.
Without knowing the language, and Koreans not being friendly if you asked
them for some help with directions, it is difficult. I was never able to screw
a Korean ***** in Korea,

I have had better luck in Santa Monica, LA. I think it was in the late 80´s
the place was a massage joint on Wilshare blv. There was no parade of girls
for you to pick, the mamasan would send the girl to the room.

Some of you might have met :Kimbekly: she was tall, nice legs, very nice
ass. I met her only two times, I remember her because of her body, great
in my opinion. Another time, at the same joint, I met another young Korean
girl. She really had a very, very tight pussy. She stopped in the middle of
the action to apply more oil on her pussy. At the end you had to tip the girl
for screwing her. I handed her a $20 bill, which was what I usually would tip
at others massage joints. Now that I remember, I don´t think she liked!

At about the same time, after Kimberly left, another girl started working. She
also had great body, not as tall. She was young, she said she was Shinese-
Korean. I would take lots of time to climax, I would not feel anything when
screwing her, her pussy was stretched, she had lots of mileage.

Before I started going to massage joints which I did not know existed, I
would go to Sunset blv one or two blocks past Fairfax. There was a tall, very
attractive Armenian girl. She took me to her apartment on Hollywood blv.
Great legs, great ass. I think I have enough material to write one or two
books on ***** chasing. Las Vegas, LA, So East Asia, So America, Japan,
Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Korea, Burma, Pattaya,
Chiang Mai, Siem Reap.

Unbelievably, I took my small video camera to some places, I would tape
all the action, nobody, ever found out!

NEVER call them. Made a bad move last night and called one, terrible, terrible, cynical service. I wish I'd had a wank instead.

Awful.

Seoul Survivor is right, I am average and the gilrs tell me that I am big. This is followed by a gesture with their fingers to indicate how long or large a Korean is. I usually just take it easy and say that it is not large and that we should just try and see how it goes and that always worked for me. If you get a difficult girl, that approach may not work.


[QUOTE=SeoulSurvivor]Koreans are much smaller on average. The room salon girls will talk about it if you can speak Korean. They oughta know, being presented with at least one penis for inspection every day. Based on what they tell me, the average Korean male has a four-inch weiner. If you have a regular 'ol American prick, you have a horsecock here in Korea.[/QUOTE]

I have seen many korean girls in anams, Korake, and room salons. I have only encountered one that was shaved clean (in Daejeon). I am not sure that the communal baths is the only reason, it just may be it is not done. I could have asked the girl I was with tonight (landing strip), but I only logged on after she left, oh well, maybe next time.

[QUOTE=Cute Guy 9000]I think most Korean women don't shave since it's a bit of a communal bathing culture. They all go to the sauna. If she has a shaved snatch, she's going to get some weird looks. And Koreans are exactly the kind of people who keep their opinions to themselves. She'll probably be called a **** to her face if she showed up in the sauna with a landing strip. And then add in she might be secretly hooking (to pay off credit card debt) and living at home. What's her mother and grandmother going to think at the sauna when she shows off her shaved pussy?

The notion also dovetails into why Korean women tend to wear granny panties. They live at home until they're married. Mom does the wash. They're rather not have to explain to mom why she's suddenly wearing thongs...[/QUOTE]

It is now 2 months since my trip to SK. I envy all korean men so much. I have never seen that many pretty working girls as in Seoul. Effing pornstar quality!!

I pity the rest of us "white boys" who are only allowed to see and no touch.

I was "robbed" in Itawon getting laid but I have never had any better ride. So with that kind of quality I don't mind spending 200k ONCE! It was a great lesson and another nationality-notch in my belt. (a very very small belt)

But I wonder if I, as a fat, short white westerner, could hump one of those lovely girls working at Yongsan RDL if I went there with a local? They were pornstar quality when I walked by. And as a white n00b, I never even had the chance to get inside their glass doors.

Darn.. I still can't forget that Itawon-poon. Still, the weirdest experience! Having a young pretty girl all over you, very little english skills so all conversation was between me and mama-san.

Then settle on the price and sat down at a table. Mama-san kept her eyes on a set of monitorns and the girl closed of the sofa/table with a curtain. Getting your clothes off was a thrill, having no place to move on, exept on the sofa. Then some interesting humping... and .. Game Over..

Darn, that was an experice I don't like to have again. Once is enough. Just wish I had the time, money and place to get her back to my hotel.

The pub/bar is/was called Apple. And there was only one girl "working".

During my walkabout in itawon I got approached by several women offering massages.. but a short, fat 40+ woman.. isn't the kind of game I am interested in. It was interesting, even if I missed what everyone calls "the hill".. to bad..

In Itaewon two weekends ago, I was walking around about midnight on the night of the first snow. Having left my friend dancing at Helios, I was in the mood to see what was happening out on the street.

A walk up the hill was aborted, as I could not get any traction on the ice. So I was walking at the small intersection a block east of the bottom of the hill (just south of Gecko’s and Burger King), when I saw a Korean girl who looked like she was working. We talked for a bit, she had a nice smile and personality (the things that matter most to me), and she started with an offer of W100,000. I did not have that much. She steered me toward the cash machine inside the local convenience store, we talked some more, she went down to 60,000, I offered W50,000, and after a few minutes we agreed.

She took me to a small inn (I do not know the Korean word for this kind of place) just 20-30 meters away to the south. The surly Korean owner (unlike his kind wife the next morning) gave us a warm room for W30,000. So the whole deal cost me W80,000 total.

Her name was Soo Bin. She did not speak much English, but we got by in my limited Korean. Once in bed, we cuddled and got warm. I liked her relaxed style. She asked me to scratch her back.

Everything oral was allowed. All positions but doggie style were okay with her. She was not into full kissing, but a little bit was all right. After about 45 minutes, I finished inside her. She got ready to go. I thought I had to leave, too -- thinking the W30,000 was a short-time rate -- but she encouraged me to stay the night there and I did.

She was about 30, nice little body, and I'd do it again.

By the way, she said that W100,000 was her all-night rate.

Streetwalkers aren't usually my thing, but I had a good feeling about this one.

Later, the shrieks of a different Korean girl, who was going nuts out on the street as her friends tried to console her about something (probably some dude), only briefly disturbed my peaceful, satisfied slumber on the snowy night...

hey brothers..
been reading some of the posts and it seems some times people are having hard times..
well I know an escort who is a lot of fun, she is true GFE, fun and speaks English..
she is sexy, fit, has long hair, great ass and breasts, no rush with her either!
she only does this part time because of financial reasons, she is intelligent and lots of fun
if you would like to meet her send me a pm and I will pass on the info to her
I met her couple years ago while on business staying at the hyatt she is one of the gems.

Took a trip to Fantasy Bar and was treated to a double feature. Older gal, not a looker but man she's got a vice grip of a mouth, what suction? Meanwhile Miya is behind tossing my salad; remember that the next time you kiss her in the mouth. :)

The bar now has an aquarium, TV with DVD showing porno, and a computer where you can probably post your reports on ISG from there. I know I haven't been there in a while but Miya looks like she has loss some weight.


Still by far one of the best deals around, especially since I haven't seen her in some time.

Went to the BBS at SNU tonight. Thought I'd try Suji or Ipeuni as mentioned in earlier reports. OHHH my GOD. Ya, Suji is 30 years old. And what a friggin' dissapointing body. I guess she has those full lips, but it could have been the lighting and lipstick. We sort of haggled about the price for a while. She was gonna do the standard service for 60K. Even though I was horny, something came over me, I looked at her body again, and just got the fuck outta there.

I don't know, I was thinking, "Shit, even Miya is old, but at least she has a better body/nice tits, and you can blow your load in her mouth. "

Man, there must be other "Miyas" out there with great potential. I'm tired of the Fantasy experience (s).

Well, New Years is coming. Maybe you boys or myself will have some interesting tales to tell.

Keep safe,

The Guru

Hi Friends,

I read some posts here on 'cafes' but could not really get what kind of service they offer. I anybody so kind and give me a briefing on what to expect there?

Few weeks ago I visited the BBS at Seoul National University Station, thanks to very clear and easy to understand instructions from this site. I asked for Suji, but I was told that she is not there and I got another lady, called Ms. Chang, mid-30s', body 5, face 5. She did give me a 20 min reasonable quality massage and then she dissapeared for about 5 mins. Thanks God I read that in the previous report, kind of scary moment. Anyways, she came back with a rubber, gave me CBJ, then she mounted on top and did cow girl for a while. Not my favorite, so I switched on top. I was pounding her quite strongly and she kept on telling me to make less noise, 'cause there was another Korean guy getting service in the next cubicle. Well, I was hearing that guy having sex too, so I just kept doing my thing.

After it was over she was very friendly, wiped me with a hot cloth, gave me a "tonic drink(?)" and asked for a tip. Service was good, so I tipped her 10,000. She seemed very happy about it.

Overall damage: 70,000 + 10,000 = 80,000 won. Experience was ok, but I wouldn't do it again unless really in despair. Glass houses are so much better (I will post a separate report on my glass house experience)

Tried Bundang RLD at 6PM on Sunday and it looked like they were just starting to open. Many shops were closed and the others were washing their windows, putting make-up on and eating. So, no luck there. To get there, I parked my car at Sinjang St and hopped over 1 stop to Sinheong St on the pink line, took exit #1 turned right into the 1rst alley, walked to the next alley. To the left were a few shops and bars, to the right was were most of the shops were. Went right, all the way to the end and took another right and there was one more alley with shops.

If going by car you can pass Sinjang St and park on the opposite side of the big Korean Post Office. It's hard to spot the subway exits on that street. Look for a big square pole with the subway info on it in Korean you won't see any english untill you look down the stairway.

Next went to Yongsan and got a B-row girl on the side by Yongsan St. She was 24, gave good head and had a good attitude about it all. Some of the hotties on B-row refused to give service. Maybe they have dreams of getting on A-row and don't wanna mess up their chances of getting promoted.

Rub.

I went to check out the Sinheung RLD area last Friday afternoon. It was a bad idea, all shops were closed. I strolled around a big area next to Exit #1 of Sinheung station on Line 8. The instructions from the site were useful, but the place was dead, appearantly opens only late at evening/night.

As I was really horny, I decided to spend another 40 mins on the subway and check out Yongsan RLD, which I have never been before either. I arrived there around 4 PM, the A-row street was completely empty, one police car was parked there and another car with 2 Korean men that didn't look friendly at all, I am not sure if there are undercover cops in the RLD areas. Anyway, there were only a handful of ladies in the glass houses on A-row, but GOSH, they did look stunning. However, as expected, they did not show any friendliness in their eyes as I was walking by.

I did check the B-rows and there were empty except two fat ladies. Just as I was thinking to quit searching and head back I encountered a very lovely B-row lady waving at me. She invited me in and quoted me 70k for 20 mins. I was so surprised that I can get such a gorgeous lady, and also so desperate for sex, that I even didn't bargain at all. She was tall, about 168-170 cm, face 6, body 8. Nice B-size cup and lovely ass. Anyways, the service was very friendly, BBBJ then raincoat on, and allowed me different positions.

I would definitely say that for 10k more than BBS, glass houses are a much better option!

It has been a while since I've been in Korea, and I tried RLD only a few times when I was here last. I heard about the crackdown, but I read somewhere back that it was a formality. Sometimes, police makes a display in cracking down, and other time, police just smiles and let you be. I wasn't what to make of it. Anyway, I thought I see myself. Reading the reports here, I expected most actions in Yongsan and went straight there around 4 pm.

I found as expected that most shops were closed at 4 pm. But, I wasn't sure if it was due to crackdown or due to business hours. Let me tell you, as soon as I got to the RLD and couldn't see any police, my mind was on how to approach these places without embarrasing stares in daylight. I saw on one street block four girls. All were decent, and I approached what I can tell quickly was the best looking girl.

Being a Kyopo (Korean-born foreigner), I went straight up and she opened the door. This was the one of two main streets I can tell, not on the side. She was quite pretty but had too much slutty makeup. A little turn off because I was getting horney and lonely looking at some lovely Korean women in the subway with good and natural-looking makeups/styling.

Anyway, she was very tall and thin and had good looking face. She didn't allow kissing and everything was covered. She didn't rush me, though.

My questions are:

1. Did I by pure chance avoid the police - because I didn't look around a lot and stayed around one block and I got into the building quick? And, that I could have been busted? I noticed I could have crossed the street and looked at another block, but I didn't.

2. Did I get an "A-row" girl? Anyway, the girl I had, though pretty, was no big deal, although I am sure there are more extremely good looking Korean girls in Korea and possibly RLD?

3. Do A-row girls typically give poor service and do only all covered? I prefer my bj bare and fs covered.

4. What time is a good time to go to Yongsan - to avoid police and tired girls?

5. What the heck is anma - in case a search I do after I submit this report shows up nothing?

I usually stay at the Hilton Itiwan, how far is Yongsan from there, I take taxi's.
There is an area near the Hilton, if you walk out of the Hilton, make a left and go down the hill, at the bottom of the hill well before the main street, make a left and walk in the small side streets, plenty of mamasan's selling the ladies for say 25,000 Won, I went into a couple small cubes before I bought, I did find an attractive lady who was a no rush lady, there to please.

Hi guys. It's been a while since I've posted. I'm back in Seoul for the holidays, just this week. If any of you guys want to hang out (either clubbing or mongering), send me a private message.

[QUOTE=pussy_dog]It has been a while since I've been in Korea, and I tried RLD only a few times when I was here last. I heard about the crackdown, but I read somewhere back that it was a formality. Sometimes, police makes a display in cracking down, and other time, police just smiles and let you be. I wasn't what to make of it. Anyway, I thought I see myself. Reading the reports here, I expected most actions in Yongsan and went straight there around 4 pm.

I found as expected that most shops were closed at 4 pm. But, I wasn't sure if it was due to crackdown or due to business hours. Let me tell you, as soon as I got to the RLD and couldn't see any police, my mind was on how to approach these places without embarrasing stares in daylight. I saw on one street block four girls. All were decent, and I approached what I can tell quickly was the best looking girl.

Being a Kyopo (Korean-born foreigner), I went straight up and she opened the door. This was the one of two main streets I can tell, not on the side. She was quite pretty but had too much slutty makeup. A little turn off because I was getting horney and lonely looking at some lovely Korean women in the subway with good and natural-looking makeups/styling.

Anyway, she was very tall and thin and had good looking face. She didn't allow kissing and everything was covered. She didn't rush me, though.

My questions are:

1. Did I by pure chance avoid the police - because I didn't look around a lot and stayed around one block and I got into the building quick? And, that I could have been busted? I noticed I could have crossed the street and looked at another block, but I didn't.
[b]The police usually show up from around 8pm. Most of the shops open from 8pm. You went a little too early. The best time to go is around 8pm. The worst time to go is on a Friday or Saturday night from midnight until 3am. These are the worst times to go! [/b]

2. Did I get an "A-row" girl? Anyway, the girl I had, though pretty, was no big deal, although I am sure there are more extremely good looking Korean girls in Korea and possibly RLD?
[b]If it was on the main street then it was an "A" row girl. But most "A" row girls sleep or work another job during the day and do not work until 8pm.[/b]

3. Do A-row girls typically give poor service and do only all covered? I prefer my bj bare and fs covered.
[b]I am surprised that she did not give you a BBBJ or GFE experience.[/b]

4. What time is a good time to go to Yongsan - to avoid police and tired girls?
[b]8pm to 9pm is a good time to go.[/b]

5. What the heck is anma - in case a search I do after I submit this report shows up nothing?[/QUOTE]
[b]anma means "massage". But these places are usually hit or miss. The girls at anmas are usually in their 30s.[/b]

[b]Since you are a Korean-American, I recommend that you pick up a few Korean phrases. Try to break the ice with these girls. I think the girl did not give you a BBBJ or GFE because she thought you were a "non-Korean".[/b]

[b]But 4pm was too early. Next time, go at around 8pm. Most shops will be open.[/b]

[QUOTE=pussy_dog]It has been a while since I've been in Korea, and I tried RLD only a few times when I was here last. I heard about the crackdown, but I read somewhere back that it was a formality. Sometimes, police makes a display in cracking down, and other time, police just smiles and let you be. I wasn't what to make of it. Anyway, I thought I see myself. Reading the reports here, I expected most actions in Yongsan and went straight there around 4 pm.

I found as expected that most shops were closed at 4 pm. But, I wasn't sure if it was due to crackdown or due to business hours. Let me tell you, as soon as I got to the RLD and couldn't see any police, my mind was on how to approach these places without embarrasing stares in daylight. I saw on one street block four girls. All were decent, and I approached what I can tell quickly was the best looking girl.

Being a Kyopo (Korean-born foreigner), I went straight up and she opened the door. This was the one of two main streets I can tell, not on the side. She was quite pretty but had too much slutty makeup. A little turn off because I was getting horney and lonely looking at some lovely Korean women in the subway with good and natural-looking makeups/styling.

Anyway, she was very tall and thin and had good looking face. She didn't allow kissing and everything was covered. She didn't rush me, though.

My questions are:

1. Did I by pure chance avoid the police - because I didn't look around a lot and stayed around one block and I got into the building quick? And, that I could have been busted? I noticed I could have crossed the street and looked at another block, but I didn't.

2. Did I get an "A-row" girl? Anyway, the girl I had, though pretty, was no big deal, although I am sure there are more extremely good looking Korean girls in Korea and possibly RLD?

3. Do A-row girls typically give poor service and do only all covered? I prefer my bj bare and fs covered.

4. What time is a good time to go to Yongsan - to avoid police and tired girls?

5. What the heck is anma - in case a search I do after I submit this report shows up nothing?[/QUOTE]

BTW, how much did you pay?

I need a good method of dodging the ajummas at miari. I keep getting tackled by them, dragged in and tied down. They've ripped the buttons off my jacket and steal my shoes. I love the service there, but getting to the girl you want is like playing red rover. I've tried football rushing techniques, called them names and tried to cold treatment. Nothing seems to work. Does anybody have any good tactics in terms of getting past these washed up *****s? they are relentless and they are starting to not be fun anymore.

I've been noticing a common theme with anmas and some rlds. They have the curtains that come half way down in front of their establishments. If you go to to the anmas in gyo-dae and other parts of kangnam, you'll see these curtains. At miari, you'll see them once you enter the premises. Is this a common sign for prostitution? the reason why I ask is because there are a few hotels and motels around my area and they have these same curtains, but no anma or rld in the vicinity. Are these hotels that offer special services? can someone please advise on this?Thanks.

From what I understand, the back alleys of Yongsan are foreigner friendly.

Try non peak hours maybe.

[QUOTE=Divine Baal]It is now 2 months since my trip to SK. I envy all korean men so much. I have never seen that many pretty working girls as in Seoul. Effing pornstar quality!!

I pity the rest of us "white boys" who are only allowed to see and no touch.

I was "robbed" in Itawon getting laid but I have never had any better ride. So with that kind of quality I don't mind spending 200k ONCE! It was a great lesson and another nationality-notch in my belt. (a very very small belt)

But I wonder if I, as a fat, short white westerner, could hump one of those lovely girls working at Yongsan RDL if I went there with a local? They were pornstar quality when I walked by. And as a white n00b, I never even had the chance to get inside their glass doors.

Darn.. I still can't forget that Itawon-poon. Still, the weirdest experience! Having a young pretty girl all over you, very little english skills so all conversation was between me and mama-san.

Then settle on the price and sat down at a table. Mama-san kept her eyes on a set of monitorns and the girl closed of the sofa/table with a curtain. Getting your clothes off was a thrill, having no place to move on, exept on the sofa. Then some interesting humping... and .. Game Over..

Darn, that was an experice I don't like to have again. Once is enough. Just wish I had the time, money and place to get her back to my hotel.

The pub/bar is/was called Apple. And there was only one girl "working".

During my walkabout in itawon I got approached by several women offering massages.. but a short, fat 40+ woman.. isn't the kind of game I am interested in. It was interesting, even if I missed what everyone calls "the hill".. to bad..[/QUOTE]

Anmas rock and the ones I've been to are in their early 20s. The best one I've been to so far are in gyo-dae. Orange anma there sucks and I know they used to serve foreigners (who knows now) the best ones are star anma and gold river or guhm gahn anma. Both places I've been to twice so far and they are by far the best anmas I've had in seoul. At star they toss your salad real good. I'm talking vacuum style suction. But the best is guhm gahn. Everyday they give you two girls for the same price 180, 000. On saturdays they give you 3 girls. If you are a foreigner, I'd try bum rushing the place. Its that worth it.

[QUOTE=New World Order][b]anma means "massage". But these places are usually hit or miss. The girls at anmas are usually in their 30s.[/b]

[QUOTE=AMPM]I need a good method of dodging the ajummas at miari. I keep getting tackled by them, dragged in and tied down. They've ripped the buttons off my jacket and steal my shoes. I love the service there, but getting to the girl you want is like playing red rover. I've tried football rushing techniques, called them names and tried to cold treatment. Nothing seems to work. Does anybody have any good tactics in terms of getting past these washed up *****s? they are relentless and they are starting to not be fun anymore.[/QUOTE]


You can do two things.

#1. Get the number of the girl who you last met. Before you enter the RLD of Miari, call that number and tell the girl to have the mamasan of that place meet you. The mamasan can then walk you to the place.

#2. Get a business card from the place you went. If a different mamasan grabs you, then show them the business card.

[QUOTE=AMPM]I've been noticing a common theme with anmas and some rlds. They have the curtains that come half way down in front of their establishments. If you go to to the anmas in gyo-dae and other parts of kangnam, you'll see these curtains. At miari, you'll see them once you enter the premises. Is this a common sign for prostitution? the reason why I ask is because there are a few hotels and motels around my area and they have these same curtains, but no anma or rld in the vicinity. Are these hotels that offer special services? can someone please advise on this?Thanks.[/QUOTE]


Those hotels are also fuck places.

It's a call-girl place. Or a hotel that has girls. These places are hit or miss.

Some of these places are foreign-friendly and some are not. Some have girls in their 20s and some have girls in their 30s. so its a hit or miss.

New World,

I paid 70k – every time.

Thanks for the insights. Anyway, I recently hit Yongsan again but this time twice on same day. First time, I hailed the cab and explained to the driver that I need to see an agashi in Yongsan RLD. In my poor Korean he understood what I said and he said it was nothing to be embarrassed about, and he even explained some stuff. I was like very horny dog (hence my name) at 4 in the freakin morning, and I asked him if RLD activity was still going at 4, and he said it's not too late, finding girls 24hrs. He even suggested that he drive through the main street slow while I pick out who I want.

Evidently, even at 4, there were a lot of girls - many who were hailing for me to come to their glass cases - as we drove up real slow on one side of the road. Interesting window shopping I thought. A lot of girls were pretty but I was looking for someone exceptional. After I passed approximately 7th or 8th cases (i.e. approximately 15 girls), I know I had more to see but I saw one that I couldn't pass up. She wasn't a model-type - big eyes etc, but she looked like a nice girl and had a type of look that I have seen and really liked. Like all of them her physique was thin and good. She treated me really well, and having made my conversation really short so she didn't ask me if I was a foreigner. Bb oral was in order, and covered FS. She even asked if condom was ok. I asked stupidly ‘why? Could we not use it?” And, she said no. You can argue I should be safe, but at the moment, she facially (physically 8.5 or 9) looked to me like heaven. Dream asian girl – sweet. I asked one more time to go bare and gave up. She said she was 25. Fantastic and I took my time.

I had to leave Seoul that night, and I really enjoyed my 4 am girl, so I went back at 11 am and walked through the row myself again. Still, there were quite a number of girls, most hailing me to come in and I saw another cute and nice looking face, probably 29-32 (I didn’t bother to ask), and probably a notch down in looks from my 4 am girl but in par with all other girls at the main street. I think physically all 3 women I have seen in Yongsan have been the same. But, this girl gave me exceptional service – kinda wild. Bb oral (few deep throats included - although Asian I have a long shaft and she struggled a bit) and covered fs. After I came, she did something unusal, which was she wiped my john with one of those small baby wet towels (comes in packages) and then she like deep throated me few times as if to finish me – although she had yanked me earlier to get all juices out. Wow, kind of like cim but not quite. She was very energetic throughout the whole long session.

I thought I share this story, just to let you know a perspective from Koreans, albeit Korean American. I don't post very often nor travel a lot but I've been reading this board for many years.

I saw the previous post that Jang-han-dong was not accepting not-accepting non-Korreans, so I decided to prove it wrong. Over 30 minutes, I was walked up and down, three times. I was only approached by a hustler/pimp/audishee twice! Best of all, it was the same dude.

What has the world come to that I can walk around Janghandong and only get approached by one adishee! Last time I was there (last month), I had numerous hustlers approach me. They were literally 10 feet from each other. Now only one adishee, and he spoke Korean to me. I just kept walking.

I decided, what the hell, and I walked inside an anma. After a little language barrier, adishee said 120k won. COOL. Total time: 90 minutes. Typical massage, shower before/after, bbbj for about 10 seconds until the flag went up, then the cover, cowgirl, missionary, etc. Normal experience, but the chick was something else!

This chick had the absolute largest breasts I have ever seen on a Korean(now the second largest breasts are in Dongducheon. IM me for info). Best part, they were real. I was feeling for the implant and there were none. This chick was about 5'5', maybe 130lbs. She is a little larger than the other skinny girls I have had in Janghandong, but by no means fat. She had to be a real "D" cup. Just being able to play with her twins and the soapy massage was worth the 120k.

However, she was a non-performer. She was one of the girls that just let you fok the hell out of her, and she just lays there. I always work it so the girls will eventually let me slide a little finger in the Ahole, but this girl was not having it. She got an attitude and only did a handjob from there on out. The worst thing about this girl is she would not make any eye contact! Absolutely none! She was a non kisser. She only knows a couple words in English. Worst of all, the massage sucked.

All-in-all:
Looks: 8 (pretty face, minimal makeup)
Tits: 10 (my god, they could sufficate me (literally))
Body: 8 (had some ass for a Korean)
Service: 3 (I could get a better massage and jerk from a machine)
Value: 7 (small body and big tits, you can't go wrong!)

If I remembered which anma it was, I would probably go back to play with the twins. I have definately noticed that Janghandong is cleaning itself up. Three years ago, when my friend introduced me the land of endless barber pole, I was in heaven. Now there are hardly any barber poles. These places still exist, but now you have to be able to read hangul signs. Most of the old bbs took down there poles and but up karaoke signs, business clubs, and a whole bunch of stuff I didn't understand. Another note, I saw a lot more couples walking down the street. Usually, it is a couple adishees or a small group. Now you can see adishee walking his girl down the stripe. Oh well, Korea is going to hell, time to move to China!

Keep up the hunting and be safe,

Poon Hunter

any idea in terms of price, protocol?

[QUOTE=New World Order]Those hotels are also fuck places.

It's a call-girl place. Or a hotel that has girls. These places are hit or miss.

Some of these places are foreign-friendly and some are not. Some have girls in their 20s and some have girls in their 30s. so its a hit or miss.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AMPM]any idea in terms of price, protocol?[/QUOTE]

It depends on the quality of the place. Some places are very nice. For example, one nice hotel would have a sauna/spa, a whirlpool, and a fantasy room to fuck in. :)

Two hours with a girl at such a place is between W150,000 to W200,000.

On the other hand, there are motels/cheap hotels that only has a bed and a bathroom (nothing fancy). Two hours with a girl at such a place is between W50,000 to W80,000.

So it all depends.

In the Gangnam area (south of the Han River), most of the places are nice and quite expensive.

In the Gangbook (north of the Han River), most of the places are cheap.

Anyone found a decent backdoor provider in Seoul? Only ever been quoted a rediculous 30 man won for it on the hill.

[QUOTE=Possessed Seoul]Anyone found a decent backdoor provider in Seoul? Only ever been quoted a rediculous 30 man won for it on the hill.[/QUOTE]

You were quoted 300,000 won?!? LOL

Oh well. Good luck.

New World Order,

If you want to window shop Miari without being haggles, just carry a yogurt drink around with you. This will make them all think you've already had your fun and just browsing before exiting.


Works everytime.


Sam Katz

[QUOTE=New World Order]You were quoted 300,000 won?!? LOL

Oh well. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

Said quoted, not paid.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Took a trip to Fantasy Bar and was treated to a double feature. Older gal, not a looker but man she's got a vice grip of a mouth, what suction? Meanwhile Miya is behind tossing my salad; remember that the next time you kiss her in the mouth. :)

The bar now has an aquarium, TV with DVD showing porno, and a computer where you can probably post your reports on ISG from there. I know I haven't been there in a while but Miya looks like she has loss some weight.


Still by far one of the best deals around, especially since I haven't seen her in some time.[/QUOTE]How much is Miya charging right now for a good old oral pipe-cleaning?

[QUOTE=Possessed Seoul]Said quoted, not paid.[/QUOTE]


I'm sorry. My bad.

Are you a non-Korean? If you are, then I recommend that you go to a Red Light District with a Korean friend.

If you go with a Korean friend, then you will also get the local rate (60,000 won for 20 to 30 minutes of fun).

This is the safest and best way to go to a RLD.

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]New World Order,

If you want to window shop Miari without being haggles, just carry a yogurt drink around with you. This will make them all think you've already had your fun and just browsing before exiting.


Works everytime.


Sam Katz[/QUOTE]

You are correct!!! :)

In Miari, they provide yogurts.

In 588, they provide sports drinks or sodas.

In Yongsan, they provide yogurts.

This is an excellent idea to avoid the mamasans.

Around the red light districts, you may see a few guys walk up to you and tell you if they can show you around. Say no!

A foreign friend of mine said yes and these two guys drove him to a nearby motel and promised him a cute girl for half the price.

He paid for the motel (20,000 won) and the guys never showed up.

Also, if you walk into a red light district, zip your pockets. Some mamasans will try and take your wallet.

A lot of Korean sluts hang out in the Itaewon bars and clubs. These are good places to score pussy.

Or in the Korean Herald or Korea Times newspapers, there will be ads for a massage from a girl. Call them and see if they speak good English.

Two years ago, there was a VERY OPENMINDED Korean girl who posted a massage ad in the Korea Herald. I forgot her name. But she speaks pretty good English and she used to work as a tour guide in Itaewon.

While I was banging her, she said, "Harder Greg, Harder."

Well, my name is not Greg. LOL It shows that she is open to meeting many men. LOL

Paid a visit (pun intended) to the VIP Club on the Hill in I-pay-won...I mean Itaewon at around 10:30 AM today. Girl named Ji Na was in. Not a bad looker either. Told her I was in a hurry and needed some oral action pretty quickly because I had to meet someone soon. She quoted 60,000 won, but ended up taking 40,000 won after a little haggling. BBBJCIM was worth it. Better BJ than Mia at the top of the Hill IMHO. I'll go back again when I get some time.

Yella Man

Checked out the Barbershop in the Youngsan Electronic Market area. There are many of these shops in that area but this one is located near the Daewoo Car dealership going towards the electronic market from Iteawon. You can see the spinning barber pole from the street if you are driving. There are two more on the same side of the road if you drive a little further down.

You have to go down a flight of small red stairs, 60,000W for the standard barber shop massage, girl was pretty enough, but after the massage finish with only a HJ. Lifted up her dress and poked her liberally and she did not complain. She had absolutely no smell down there, probably won't return but a good change of pace from the GF.

Saw my regular in call massage girl last week and she is looking for work. I have been using her off and on for the past two years. She is a graduate student, age 25, excellent boobs, and great body. She charges 125,000W, if anyone is interested send me a PM. I will pass your info to her. Her English is not that good though so if you don't speak a little Korean, it probably won't work. She is kind of a card, but her massage skills need work, but I don't really see her for massage that much. So if you’re up for it and you are in Korea, hit me up.

PS: I am not into this Sr member/newbie crap but if you have zero and one or two posts, then this is not for you. Korea still has a crackdown and since I don't know who is who...get it?
Merry Christmas All!

Okay, I am back in Seoul after traveling a bit round Korea. Is there any cheap but good Anmas? There was a post some time back about Paradise in Jang An Peong being around ~100k won, but I was wondering if it still holds true. Otherwise, I may try to Froggie place in Yeoksam, but it's expensive at 180k won.

Also, if anyone has info for two-girl place at non-outlandish price (under ~150k), it would be welcome.

Sam Katz,

I had a recommendation to hit Yong Dong Po for better service from taxi driver, but I read your post that the girls there are dirty. Can you elaborate on what you mean by 'dirty'? Unwashed? Sex disease carrying? Dirty as in kinky?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sam Katz]Yong Dong Po is trash and shady and every night you will encounter the lights being off and cops patrolling, that whole area is known for it's dirty girls.

Chon Ho Dong is OK I guess but it has like probably 5 brothels that are active maybe. Regulars and neighborhood people are the only people that go to this place, nobody goes out of there way to go like they would for Miari 588 and yongjugul.

Save your money for Anmas they are the real deal

Sam Katz aka .....[/QUOTE]

Yong Dong Po is just known as a poorer neighborhood, if you ask taxi drivers they would agree so. There are bums right across the street and the street old *****s on the main street next to the rusty garages. And the girls all seem trashier then other RLD girls.


just my opinion I guess


Sam Katz aka ....

Can someone hook me up with some phone numbers? I'm staying in Seoul for one more night, but I don't feel like going out, its too cold.

Thanks and Happy New Year.

A new trend in Seoul are "stress shops," or stores with signs that say nothing about what the stores sell. They are not easy to find but for 60,000 won, you get a massage from a very cute and young girl. Depending on establishment, you'll either get just a hand job or blow job but usually the girls takes her top off and licks your bod.

I went to one by Dangsan station and man, it was GOOOOOOOOOOD. The massage was good but the real treat was how religiously the girl gave me head and licked all around.

By the way, I'm not sure if the place will accept non-Korean customers.

How do you get to gyo-dae?

[QUOTE=AMPM]Anmas rock and the ones I've been to are in their early 20s. The best one I've been to so far are in gyo-dae. Orange anma there sucks and I know they used to serve foreigners (who knows now) the best ones are star anma and gold river or guhm gahn anma. Both places I've been to twice so far and they are by far the best anmas I've had in seoul. At star they toss your salad real good. I'm talking vacuum style suction. But the best is guhm gahn. Everyday they give you two girls for the same price 180, 000. On saturdays they give you 3 girls. If you are a foreigner, I'd try bum rushing the place. Its that worth it.

Went over to Walker-Hill for some gambling action the other night. Tonight I got lucky and walked away with a handful of cash so I decided to drop by 588. The taxi driver recommended a particular place so I decided to try it. I know he is getting some kick back for his service and I'm OK with. Everyone has to play his angle. It was a small place with only 4 girls to choose from. One was recommended so went for it. Since I had some cash to blow from the gambling, I decided on all night action. She turned out to be a winner. She was definitely GFE. I stayed there for 4-5 hours, doing what comes natural. What was different about this experience was that after our section, she walked me out to get a taxi. Then, she asked me if she can come and see me later that afternoon. This was totally unsolicited. Since I had a good exprience, I gave her my contact info and we later hooked up. She did not even ask for any money. But, being a nice person that I'm I gave her a good tip.
I'm interested to know if this happened to anyone else.

Like an idiot, I lost her contact info. I'm planning on getting back to the place when I get back to Korea.

[QUOTE=Khk10]Can someone hook me up with some phone numbers? I'm staying in Seoul for one more night, but I don't feel like going out, its too cold.

Thanks and Happy New Year.[/QUOTE]

Its much cheaper if you do incalls. If you do outcalls, the girl will use that as an excuse for a big tip.

In what area will you be staying? Let me know and then I can find the closest place for you.

There are a few massage ads in the Korea Herald and Korea Times.

But I would stick to incalls. Because with outcalls, you have no idea what the girl will look like. She may be a hottie or she may not.

[QUOTE=Lonestar69]How do you get to gyo-dae?

[QUOTE=AMPM]Anmas rock and the ones I've been to are in their early 20s. The best one I've been to so far are in gyo-dae. Orange anma there sucks and I know they used to serve foreigners (who knows now) the best ones are star anma and gold river or guhm gahn anma. Both places I've been to twice so far and they are by far the best anmas I've had in seoul. At star they toss your salad real good. I'm talking vacuum style suction. But the best is guhm gahn. Everyday they give you two girls for the same price 180, 000. On saturdays they give you 3 girls. If you are a foreigner, I'd try bum rushing the place. Its that worth it.[/QUOTE]

Where will you be travelling from? If it is during rush hour (7am to 9am and 5pm to 8pm), then subway is best. Make sure you have all of your personal belongings secured.

I once had my cell phone stolen in the subway. So be careful.

To everyone! Here's to happy hunting and many informative posts in 06.

Does anybody know a place in Seoul to meet Russian girls, escorts, etc.

[QUOTE=New World Order] Some places are very nice. For example, one nice hotel would have a sauna/spa, a whirlpool, and a fantasy room to fuck in. :)

Two hours with a girl at such a place is between W150,000 to W200,000.

[/QUOTE]NWO,

Can you provide more info/directions where to find one of these love motels with a whirlpool and fantasy rooms. I want to check these out. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Timeoff]I decided on all night action. She turned out to be a winner. She was definitely GFE. I stayed there for 4-5 hours, doing what comes natural.[/QUOTE]Timeoff, are you Asian, or can any foreignor hit up this place? How much did you pay for the 5 hours? I'm a real big fan of the extended ***** experience.

Thanks for the post.

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What's the best way to get an all-nighter with a girl - at reasonable cost? I mean which places and what are the best approach?

Happy New Year to everyone!!! :)

I have received several emails about commuting by subway.

Here is a website which I hope all of you find helpful.

On the top of this website, you will see the subway lines. Click on them for more details.

[url]http://www.smrt.co.kr/english_smrt/cyberstation_smrt/cyberstation.jsp[/url]

I have not been to Seoul in a year so I am unable to give specific details about commuting by subway.

Happy Holidays! :)

P.S.

#1. "Gyo Dae" is Seoul National University of Education. "Gyo Dae" is on the 3 line between "Gangnam" and "Seocho".

#2. "Gireum" is Miari Texas RLD.

Fly Pelican,

Can you give me some more info on the " stress shops " and what it would be called in Korean. How did you find out about the place? is there a pimp? lineup? just walk in the door?


Thanks

Timeoff,

Yes I have taken a 588 girl out before for free. Maybe because of the E pill I gave her. For about 2 hours of free sex and taxis paid for me, not bad.

Sam Katz aka SKman

I was staying at the W. I got bored, so took a walk down the street and saw a huge red sign that said Anma. I walked in and took the elevator to the 4th floor. They said 180k. I paid and the guy took me into some hotel room witha small jacuzzi. There was a girl already in there. Her face was a 5 but her body was like an 8. She filled the jacuzzi. I sat in. She told me to come out and she scrubbed me down while I brushed my teeth. Then I layed on the bed face down. She rubbed me down with some oil and started rubbing me all over with her tits. Weird. It didn't really get me going. It was more ticklish than anything else. She then wiped me off and gave me a tongue bath, then a bbbj with some mouthwash in her mouth. Nice. Then on the hat and multiple positions. All in all not a bad experience.

Question: Has anyone been to any "high end" Anmas? I don't care if I pay more if the girls are better looking.

Has anyone been to a fantasy room in Seoul? Where they have themed rooms and girls are in uniforms ie. schoolgirl or stewardess?

I was in a taxi and in the Yeoksamdong / Samsungdong area and I saw a nice building that said "6 hands anma". Anybody been there? Can you tell me where it is?

Thanks and Happy New Year everyone.

Went to a Kangnam Anma. I don't know where it was because the 3 of us took a taxi. But it was on a "major" east-west street. The anma was in the middle of a long block. Went inside, they charged my Korean friends 110k and charged me the foreigner price of 150k. I said what the hell, New Years Eve and stuff (3am). In came a hot 22ish chick. Nice rack, body, nice everything.

The weird thing was that the anma lasted for about 5 minutes, if that. I think it was a New Years special. Minimal anma, all service. Total time was about 45 minutes.

All in all, chick was hot, service was good. But at 150k, an anma would have been nice.

Happy New Years everyone,

Poon Hunter

Was in Seoul two weeks ago and decided to see if Maya was offering the two girl deal mentioned in earlier posts.

Was making my first loop of the Hill checking things out when Maya grabbed me and asked me "Two girls?". The second gal was younger than Maya and, based on her tits, two or three months pregnant. They were great. We negotiated 120 for both of them and she locked the door.

I stripped and the new gal started working on me while I played with Maya's tits. Then they changed position for a while.

Had two problems. First, the little TV with the street cameras was on and second, YOU horny bastards kept knocking on the door. What's worse, Maya would jump up, throw on her clothes and answer.

I would be ready to bust and then one of YOU would come around the corner. I'd watch you come around the corner and up to the door and then the inevitable knock, followed by Maya jumping up to answer. Definitely wrecked the moment. Also pretty funny.

In the mean time, I'm 10 feet away face f*&%$ng or doggying the other girl. It must have gone on for about 30 minutes like that.

I finally got smart and faced away from the TV and reminded Maya I was here for the two girl deal and to please stop answering the effing door. That if they would give me 5 minutes of undivided attendtion, I would be out of there.

Got the new girl down on all fours, jamming it down her throat with Maya playing with my balls and me sucking on her tits. Maya started moaning "Come for me", which I find to be an incredible turn on, and I finally blew in the other girls mouth.

Still a great deal. Wish more of the places on the Hill were like that. No BS with drinks or trying to con you into spending money. Just a straight deal.

Have a great New Year all.

Hi monger friends,

My company sends me to Korea from Feb this year. As part of my preparation I was reading this forum already for quite 3 months and of course I will study and try to avoid asking questions already answered here. However some of the experts I might ask for advise.

Coming from Germany I am used to have a variaty of choices, starting with normal 'activity' houses, the famous FKK Sauna clubs, escorts and as well various group activities such as Couple and Couple and Single party clubs, Party clubs, gang bang sessions and even hidden participation in porn movies (without face shown). That all for reasonable prices compared to other places in the world.

Now to my question:

(I know Sauna clubs I can forget due to ban of prostitiution)

Is there anything like 'private group activities' in Korea.

- Swinger Parties (for couple only or for couple and singles)
- Private party clubs or similar 'get together' to do sex
- gang bang activities
- anything else with the same intention.
- not any website reffering to such events?

What would be closest in Korea to those activities?

Of course in the beginning I don't know any word in Korean Language, so I would need some assistance or a guide with the same interest. (but my company will spend lessons for me)

Of course my behave to ladies whatever nation and profession is pretty gentle as it should be and so far nobody (better: no lady-'body') was dissapointed, as I can give something in return (besides potentially money). Anyhow the companies never send the 'boring average' of their staff as Expats to Asia.

So don't worry to give me good information, here or as PN.

Thanks in advance for any support

Brain666

Who extends the mongering scene in Korea soon.

[QUOTE=Brain666]Hi monger friends,

My company sends me to Korea from Feb this year. As part of my preparation I was reading this forum already for quite 3 months and of course I will study and try to avoid asking questions already answered here. However some of the experts I might ask for advise.

Coming from Germany I am used to have a variaty of choices, starting with normal 'activity' houses, the famous FKK Sauna clubs, escorts and as well various group activities such as Couple and Couple and Single party clubs, Party clubs, gang bang sessions and even hidden participation in porn movies (without face shown). That all for reasonable prices compared to other places in the world.

Now to my question:

(I know Sauna clubs I can forget due to ban of prostitiution)

Is there anything like 'private group activities' in Korea.

- Swinger Parties (for couple only or for couple and singles)
- Private party clubs or similar 'get together' to do sex
- gang bang activities
- anything else with the same intention.
- not any website reffering to such events?

What would be closest in Korea to those activities?

Of course in the beginning I don't know any word in Korean Language, so I would need some assistance or a guide with the same interest. (but my company will spend lessons for me)

Of course my behave to ladies whatever nation and profession is pretty gentle as it should be and so far nobody (better: no lady-'body') was dissapointed, as I can give something in return (besides potentially money). Anyhow the companies never send the 'boring average' of their staff as Expats to Asia.

So don't worry to give me good information, here or as PN.

Thanks in advance for any support

Brain666

Who extends the mongering scene in Korea soon.[/QUOTE]While I'm far from being an expert, I will suggest that the kinds of things you express an interest in will be difficult to find in Korea--if not EXTREMELY difficult--unless, that is, you have exceptionally good connections.

This is in some ways still a very closed society, where foreigners are not always accepted. It's also a society which manages to be simultaneously promiscuous and puritanical--think Victorian Britain and you'll just about get what I'm driving at.

Also, just to complicate things, the crackdown on prostitution is, by all reports, real. Some months ago it was a Japanese tourist caught, literally with his pants down, in one of the big Seoul RLDs. The Japanese embassy was informed, and his name (as I recall) was splashed all over the newspapers.

Not that prostitution isn't still thriving here: it's just mutating a bit. And making itself that much harder for the foreigner to find. Or rather, you'll very easily find the unappealing sorts (snaggle-toothed ajummas who will give you a quick HJ in a seedy "barber shop"), but might have to look a bit harder for the good stuff.

Given enough money, of course, you'll be fine when it comes to finding sex for cash. (Read: business clubs.) However, the parties of the type you describe are likely as not going on among natives who have no intention of letting you, a foreigner, join in. Sorry, but that's how it looks from here.

SS

Hi there guys,

I'm another newbie in Seoul slowly adjusting to the place and reading past post with great interest. I'm on page 9 of 171 so still a long way to go.

It seems to me that most of you can speak passable Korean and read it at least but I've absolutely no knowledge of the language at all so the signs are a mystery to me.

I have seen though some motels with a symbol like a red line with 3 red flames standing vertically above it. And I've also seen the same symbol on places that are not motels.

So what are these places and what's available there? Are they saunas? Massages? or Coffee Shops?? (a la the Java logo) and what can I expect when I visit one?

Also what's the deal with the barber shops? Is 1 pole a regular haircut and more than one extra services or what? (Just in case I need a haircut sometime)

Thanks.

Went to Yongsan RLD yesterday at around 7pm. Got a nice girl from the B-row at the far right allet away from the train station. It was the first time I got a girl from that area and her room was pretty nice with all the right mirrors in the right places.

The girl is 23yro, with a nice face and good body, just really short. Sex was pretty good, but I would've liked a shower afterwards. She said I was her first customer and ended up creaming all over my groin area. She let me finger her ass, there was a puddle of her cum there to help lubricate everything. I'm hoping if I'm a repeat customer she'll let me stick something else in there.

I paid 70,000 won, I asked her how much for 2 hours and she quoted me 240,000 won. I guess it's 120k per hour, I'll hold off on that till I find a hotter girl.

Hi guys,

I'm new in Seoul and slowly adjusting to life here and looking forward to trying some of the places detailed in your reports.

I'm only on page 25 of 171 so I've still a long way to go.

Being new I don't know any of the language but have noticed signs on some motels, a red line with 3 flames vertically above it. Also on some buildings that are not motels.

Are these places

1) Massage?
2) Sauna?
3) Coffee shops ( a la Java logo)?

Or any other combination?

Please let me know what I can expect to find there and what the system is.

Also what's the deal with the barber shops? Is 1 pole a pukka haircut place and 2 and more indicating extras?

I know what you mean, wish more places everywhere was like her, not just the hill. I am personnaly tired of her show but its always good to hear other people having a good time with her. She may not be the heavyweight cock-sucking champion of the world anymore, but does put forth a tremendous effort to please.

[QUOTE=Gas Can]

I Wish more of the places on the Hill were like that. No BS with drinks or trying to con you into spending money. Just a straight deal.

Have a great New Year all.[/QUOTE]

Went into Peach Fuzz last night. It is the typical small bj bar the hill is known for. She asked me to buy her drink. I asked how much for a bj. She said 200k. I started to laugh and put my coat back on. I ran through my routine: I have lived here 3 years. 40k bj, 100k fs. After a minute, she got it. She told me it is her routine for new people. I explained that I have heard that a bunch.

Bottom line: 30 minutes of fs for 100k. She wasn't bad looking and had fake chee-chees (one of my turn-ons). Great oral skil. Unfortunately, she performed great for a couple minutes, then expected me to do the rest.

To summerize: if I am going to pay 100k for fs, i minus well go to Janghanpyeong and get a massage out of it.

Peace,

Poon Hunter

[QUOTE=Dxb Cat]Hi guys,

I'm new in Seoul and slowly adjusting to life here and looking forward to trying some of the places detailed in your reports.

I'm only on page 25 of 171 so I've still a long way to go.

Being new I don't know any of the language but have noticed signs on some motels, a red line with 3 flames vertically above it. Also on some buildings that are not motels.

Are these places

1) Massage?
2) Sauna?
3) Coffee shops ( a la Java logo)?

Or any other combination?

Please let me know what I can expect to find there and what the system is.

Also what's the deal with the barber shops? Is 1 pole a pukka haircut place and 2 and more indicating extras?[/QUOTE]Welcome to Korea, Dxb Cat!

I've been here nearly five years. While that doesn't make me an expert, by any stretch of the imagination, I'll share with you what I can.

The sign which you describe (three flaming red lines) does not necessarily indicate anything to do with sex. Typically, I think, it indicates a sauna, which may be purely legitimate (read, nothing sexual in nature on offer). Otherwise, it may simply indicate a yeogwan (cheap hotel) which is equipped . . . er . . . with hot water. A bit of an anachronism, I think: South Korea was a third-world country just a few short decades ago, the kind of place where hot water was something to advertise as a kind of luxury.

If you're looking for sex in Seoul:

Best bets used to be the RLDs (red light districts). I always found Yongsan to be the best. Go to Yongsan station (easily findable on any subway map), and directly opposite the station you will find a huge, pink-lit RLD. Most of the women won't take you if you aren't Korean or at least Korean-looking; however, down the side alleys which are easily locatable all around, you could find women who would happily service you. I say "could," and not "can," because the crackdown which has been in effect for just over a year now means that RLDs are not normally running at full capacity. Many of the houses are at least temporarily closed, and some very likely permanently closed. So you may find Yongsan and other RLDs in Korea to resemble ghost towns. They've been intimidated by the local police into all but closing down.

I had some great times at Yongsan RLD in years past. More recently, sad to say, the crackdown on prostitution here in Korea has made visiting such places a risky business. If the police show up, you may very well be in trouble. I DON'T MEAN TO BE A FEAR-MONGER, just a realist. RLDs here, in my own recent experience, have been heavily police-patrolled. Live dangerously if you want to.

One place which seems to have escaped the crackdown so far (though no one seems to know why!) is Hooker Hill in Itaweon. Took me a long time, originally, to find this place, but I'll give you simple instructions. Look for the mosque at the top of one of Itaewon's hills. Head upwards toward the mosque from the main drag. In this vicinity, you'll find lots of girly bars. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Unfortunately, many of these bargirls will attempt to cheat you--if past experience is anything to go by. You could easily find yourself paying 100,000 won or more in return for very little but a beer or two and lots of promises. Be hard-nosed about it, and negotiate for what you want upfront. All of the bar girls here are hookers, but many if not most of them will try to drain your wallet dry in exchange for little or no work, if they can. Be shrewd and be proactive.

Barbershops are hit-and-miss. Most will give a mediocre massage followed by some sort of handjob, after which, frankly, you may walk away feeling used to no purpose. Satisfactory sex is normally best looked for elsewhere. Seriously, you will often as not be serviced by an ugly middle-aged housewife who will not even remove her top for you. She'll just vigorously stroke your member and/or climb or top, without removing anything but her panties, avert her head, and let you bang away at her from below until finish without eye contact, nakedness of any sort, playfulness of any sort, or anything at all but the basic mechanics of Mr. P. entering Miss(us) V. Surprisingly unsatisfactory: call it "factory sex."

If you've got the cash, I'd recommend an anma, or upscale massage place. These are not hard to find, though you may need to be able to read the Korean. You can typically enjoy a nude bath, massage, and sex with a young, sexy woman--though you may pay over 150,000 for the pleasure. Trust me that after having been ripped off a few times on Hooker Hill, buying overpriced lady drinks in return for little or nothing, the price may seem worth it to you.

In conclusion, Yongsan RLD is still my favorite, although it might be completely shut down by the police if you arrive at the wrong time, and is frankly a bit hit-or-miss. Some of the gals are wonderful; others are crassly commercial, in it only for the quick buck, and will treat you quite poorly. USE YOUR DISCRETION, read body language and eyes, and accept a genuine invititation if you can. But don't forget that the police are right around the corner, either.

SS

[QUOTE=Dxb Cat]
Being new I don't know any of the language but have noticed signs on some motels, a red line with 3 flames vertically above it. Also on some buildings that are not motels.

Are these places

1) Massage?
2) Sauna?
3) Coffee shops ( a la Java logo)?
[/QUOTE]

That are straight saunas. No sex. Just your typical Korean public bathing place.

This is great advice, bet everyone thats been busted since the crackdown wished they were given and heeded this advice.

[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]

I had some great times at Yongsan RLD in years past. More recently, sad to say, the crackdown on prostitution here in Korea has made visiting such places a risky business. If the police show up, you may very well be in trouble. I DON'T MEAN TO BE A FEAR-MONGER, just a realist. RLDs here, in my own recent experience, have been heavily police-patrolled. Live dangerously if you want to.

SS[/QUOTE]
Not true, this area is heavily patrolled by the military guard dogs and Korean police are always out there although not as much as before. People do get popped on the hill. Even if you are not military,the idea that you have to stop and show ID to prove who you are makes this environment unattractive to monger in. This place is so bad that the GIs have given up on it and move on to other areas. The best time to visit it is during the day, but don't expect to get much here but dogs, it aint nothing like it once was. Anmas are expensive but probably one of the best bet in town. Interesting to see what will happen in 2007,the scheduled shutdown of the RLDs in Korea.

[QUOTE=Sukhumvit Sam]
One place which seems to have escaped the crackdown so far (though no one seems to know why!) is Hooker Hill in Itaweon. Took me a long time, originally, to find this place, but I'll give you simple instructions. Look for the mosque at the top of one of Itaewon's hills. Head upwards toward the mosque from the main drag. In this vicinity, you'll find lots of girly bars. Shouldn't be too difficult.

SS[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hi Rub]Timeoff, are you Asian, or can any foreignor hit up this place? How much did you pay for the 5 hours? I'm a real big fan of the extended ***** experience.

Thanks for the post.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm Asian. If you don't speak the language it would be tough to build a rapport, that is if your ultimate goal is to take the girl out of the place. The deal was all nighter for 500K won. I could have stayed longer, but I left early.

Thanks for the info Sukhumvit Sam.

I guess from your handle you're more used to the LOS scene. Me too!!

I found both Yongsan and Hooker Hill in my first week!! Quite by accident of course ;-) I went shopping at the E-Mart at Yongsan and fell over the RLD there. Had a walk up and down and there was very few girls.

I'd also been warned about HH so only had a few beers and a rekkie.

If those plces are the 'best' Seoul has to offer I'd better stick to the missus.

Good comments on the Military Police checks on Hooker Hill. They can be a pain-in-the-ass, although it's mainly just an inconvenience if you're a civilian.

If the Hill is still your preference. And despite everything, it still has its gems and a bargin or two. You can avoid the military by going before 9PM and after 1AM. The patrols officially start at 7PM, but the guys doing them don't make it to the Hill until later. They officially stop 1 hour after curfew (usually 1AM), but by 1: 00-1: 30AM, most of the guys doing the patrols are just looking to get out of there as soon as possible. Especially when it's cold.

Many of the clubs don't bring their "A" girls on until after 10PM, so you aren't missing much during "Primetime" anyway. For day time action you can hit the Royal/VIP, Fantasy (with the ever popular Miya), and a few non-Hill clubs like Nymph and the Cabin. Most are open between 2-4PM, and Miya is usually on the job by 1PM.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]This is great advice, bet everyone thats been busted since the crackdown wished they were given and heeded this advice.


Not true, this area is heavily patrolled by the military guard dogs and Korean police are always out there although not as much as before. People do get popped on the hill. Even if you are not military, the idea that you have to stop and show ID to prove who you are makes this environment unattractive to monger in. This place is so bad that the GIs have given up on it and move on to other areas. The best time to visit it is during the day, but don't expect to get much here but dogs, it aint nothing like it once was. Anmas are expensive but probably one of the best bet in town. Interesting to see what will happen in 2007, the scheduled shutdown of the RLDs in Korea. [/QUOTE]

There is an abundance of Filipina flesh in Osan, Pyongtaek, Uijongbu, and Tonducheon. But I was wondering. Has anyone found a reliable source of Filipina providers in Seoul?

I know they work in a lot of the higher-end room salons, but $1000 a pop for chep beer, squid, and the "possibility" of something afterward isn't appealing. On the other hand, it would be good to not have to drive an hour to try a non-Korean flavor.

Went back to Seoul recently after some time and wanted to check out a nice Anma place I'd been to before, two houses up from the Novotel Kangnam (which in turn is next to the Ritz). Had been there before, even post-crackdown, but was told 'No Foreigners' this time.

Went diagonally across the road, slightly downhill, there's another Anma called 'King's Anma'. Got the service there, for the usual price.

Has anyone had a similar experience? I've never been turned away by an Anma before, are some just following the RLD policy of 'No foreigners for A-Row girls'?

Friends is now totally fucked, as is Orange, in Hakdong.

I don't actually believe that the owner DOES want foreigners, as Gonad states. I have known him a long time and, in the past, he would have "solved the problem" by now. These days, I fear, he feels it's just not worth the hassle. I mean, there are 101 ways he COULD be creative, in his thinking that would enable foreign custom, without threatening his Korean base - don't expect it to happen in my lifetime, though. The truth is, he is sick of the whole massage business.

I have it on first hand authority that he now runs a service station (gas station and auto repairs) near Ilsan.

I asked the guy at Orange (Hakdong) if any of the places nearby would take care of foreigners. He rang the owner of Tiffany, who said "yes" - but since it was New Year's Eve, it was closed. To find Tiffany, you need to know where "Neighbour" is. Neighbour is the former BVLGARI STRESS CLINIC, around the corner from Cha Hospital, 10 minutes walk from Yeoksam Station (Exit 7). Incidentally, I was the first foreign customer to visit Bvlgari, when it opened in late 2003. I was regular enough to sleep over on weekends - and got to fuck a girl from there a few times, when she was off duty. I called the other day and, even though they remembered me, it was the same story. "Sorry - no foreigners." I'm sure that only applies to white and black foreigners and, that if you look like a Korean, you should be fine.

Anyway, Tiffany is directly across the road from there. I believe it is the same road as the fancy hotels, just a little further down, past the lights.

Don't know when I'll be there again, so if anyone DOES manage to visit, please report.

Have not ventured out to BLUE near Hwagok as I can't remember which bus gets me near there from Seoul. Maybe I have saved time and money if, indeed, it turns out to be as big a dud as Friends, Orange and Neighbour.



[QUOTE=Gonad Man]Sam-

I may be inclined to agree with that assessment and I may be inclined to disagree too. The other day, in a drunken state I decided to spoil myself to a nice massage and screw at a local Ahn Ma in Yeoksam, called Paradise. The price was 200,000 won. This was a good deal more than the 160,000 I was quoted a year ago. Nevertheless I went to the room, met a girl with no strengths or weaknesses in the looks department and got a rushed oil rub and fuck. Half way through I was told to hurry up. That got me a little mad and I started fucking her twice as hard and took my good time to bust that nut. After, I asked them what happened to the whole slow seduction of it, plus I remembered that there should've been a blind massage prelude. They said it was just a service. Hmph. What a waste, I thought as I left. On my way home I calculated and re-calculated just how many Thai hookers I could've bought that though uglier would have left me warm and fuzzy afterward.

On the other hand I can think back to a visit I made to Paradise in Jang An Dong which blew my mind, about 9 months ago. It was unrushed and the girl was mega hot.

So use caution. The word from my Korean friend is that there is a place called Temple around Jang An Dong and it's the bomb. I'm not sure of the foreigner status of the place, but if you can get a service there you will have every need catered to. But personally I think that a nice Thai girl is both friendlier and much better in bed. In fact, I'm yet to meet any Korean girl who is better in bed than your average Thai.

Someone asked earlier about Friends. Don't bother. It's not that the owner doesn't like foreigners or doesn't want them. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's just that some fool on the Korean WSG has made trouble for his shop. Who knew that handjobs carried risk from dirty foreigners eh? Maybe some eraser dick is scared the girls will laugh when he whips it out after the comparison. Anyway, there's nothing special there these days so you're not really missing out on anything.

It seems that there's fun to be had everywhere but Korea these days...[/QUOTE]

You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS. However, I took my western friends and asian friends to ANMA many times and always accepted. I think this is because I am a Korean and I can push them to accept my firend as a guest by offering little more money depending on the situation.

Regarding RLD crackdown, now the government is loosing its tension and people have started to go to RLD, ANMAs, barber shops, etc and no more worries. you can go there and fuck them without any problems because the meat shops still open are have informers or connection with jurisdiction or police.

You still can find many freelancers at Itaewon or many other places where foreigners gather. I spend my x-mas eve of 2005 at Itaewon and saw many korean free lancers looking for customers. many of them were pretty and sold over 8 out of 10.

Anyway, members of this forum do not have a roundtable? It would be of great fun if we are on round table and share our experience like other forums. lol.

[QUOTE=New World Order]Around the red light districts, you may see a few guys walk up to you and tell you if they can show you around. Say no!

A foreign friend of mine said yes and these two guys drove him to a nearby motel and promised him a cute girl for half the price.

He paid for the motel (20,000 won) and the guys never showed up.

Also, if you walk into a red light district, zip your pockets. Some mamasans will try and take your wallet.[/QUOTE]I had some guy offering russian girls, karaoke room girls who would spend the night at my motel, or anma experience. After talking about it at great length, he convinced me on the karaoke girls idea at 170k W. However, he wanted me to get in his car because it's supposedly not walking distance, and I said no way for safety reasons.

Later I talked to desk clerk at my motel, and he told me those karaoke places are drinking places. And, they will milk you for your money while you are getting slammed by alcohol. And, they might charge you funny on your credit card at end.

Earlier somebody was inquiring about karaoke sex places that he heard about. I am not sure if he meant these kinds. And, maybe in some places, girls actually give it up right there by the table like in Japan's pink salons or in a side room. But, being here alone in Seoul, I wouldn't want to chance it. Kyopo or no Kyopo. Plus, my Korean is not that strong.

Ho Man,

You mentioned that you were 'regular' to stay over night and sleep at one anma. Is over-night sleep-overs available at most anmas? I've been paying for Seoul hotels anyway, so why not get some good time and then fall asleep I figure. (I would go over now and ask, but I am outside Seoul right now.) Can you or one of you mongers tell me an experience of staying over-night at an anma, especially the protocol and cost in addition to the normal service? Are these clean? Much appreciated if you can reply to this post or PM me about this.

Also, if there is any anma that offers more than a single shot on girl's goal, time (over 1 hr with girl), or anything else unusal, please let me know. Or,let me know if there is any anmas charging less than the normal 180k W.

I am kind of tired of the pink room girls at RLDs now, and time is running out before I have to leave Korea. The reason why I'm getting bored.

Ok, so far I've been to Yongsan and Yong Deng Po RLD. Being Kyopo, I've been to only A-row girls. Except for my very first girl, bj's were all bb, and fs all covered. Except for one A-row girl who was over 30 and a notch-down in looks who was amazing, all these girls were pretty good, with some kissing, but hardly gfe. One of them actually said no kissing, no touching the tits, and only missionary (I became limp and she had to finish me with her hand). And, after 10-15 minutes of deed, they tell me that time is running out and to hurry up. Yongsan girls tend to be on the 10 minute side. Except for occasional super eye candy experience, the experience is getting redundant now. Oh, how excited I was when I got here few weeks ago.

So, I am little bored now having had about 9 sessions with Yongsan and Yong Deng Po girls in two weeks that I've been in Seoul so far. With 9 times, I don't have the deepest experience with RLD pink room actions but still able to say a few things. I've gone in mornings, evenings and middle of nights. Just as my impression, the best time probably is at 4 am, when customers are passed through, street is empty except for girls in business and girls too tired to not give a too much crap anymore (which can be bad or good for you) and not hurry you up. Also, Yongsan A-row non-evening girls are not so good, while Yong Deng Po non-evening girls (only A-row in Yong Deng Po... sorry) are always great. I tried to look for B-row action in Yongsan, so I can get some anal, bbbjcim, longer time, or ANYthing different from what I had - what I have heard on the board. However, every time I've been there, I can't see anybody on the side streets except for this strange girl in white who always has her face away from the street. But, then again, I always looked very quickly.

So, I am now going to try anmas, preferrably ones where I can stay over night in, because I have to pay for hotel while in Seoul anyway. I figure BBS are like pink rooms of fast sex without the selection of girls.

I think I will try out Jang An Dong area and report back.

[QUOTE=Cocoroso]You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS. However, [b]I took my western friends and asian friends to ANMA many times and always accepted. I think this is because I am a Korean and I can push them to accept my firend as a guest by offering little more money depending on the situation.[/b]

Regarding RLD crackdown, now the government is loosing its tension and people have started to go to RLD, ANMAs, barber shops, etc and no more worries. [b]you can go there and fuck them without any problems because the meat shops still open are have informers or connection with jurisdiction or police.[/b]

[b]You still can find many freelancers at Itaewon or many other places where foreigners gather.[/b] I spend my x-mas eve of 2005 at Itaewon and saw many korean free lancers looking for customers. many of them were pretty and sold over 8 out of 10.

Anyway, members of this forum do not have a roundtable? It would be of great fun if we are on round table and share our experience like other forums. lol.[/QUOTE]


Very true.

For foreigners, it is best to go to the RLD, massage parlor, or barbershop with a Korean friend.

When I go to 588, Miari Texas, a massage parlor or barbershop, I bring my foreign friends along. And I would kindly tell the mamasans to accept my friends. And they will (especially is I am their loyal customer).

There is a massage parlor in southern Seoul (right next to the Renaissance Hotel) called Zeus. This place accepts foreigners. The price is 180,000 won for two hours of fun. One hour of a massage from a blind man or lady. And one hour of shower and fuck. Foreigners also pay the same local rate (180,000). I'm sorry but I do not have their phone number.

The policemen at the red light districts are nothing but show. It's just a stupid P.R. stunt. Just do your thing (fuck the girl) and leave quietly, then you will be fine. Even if you make eye contact with the police, just smile, bow your head a bit, and leave.

As for freelancers, if you pick them up, please take care of your personal belongings. Either put them in a safe or zip your pockets. And wear a condom. These freelancers are not as clean as the *****s. Because the *****s get their regular AIDS and STD checkup once a week.

[QUOTE=pussy_dog]Ho Man,

You mentioned that you were 'regular' to stay over night and sleep at one anma. Is over-night sleep-overs available at most anmas? I've been paying for Seoul hotels anyway, so why not get some good time and then fall asleep I figure. (I would go over now and ask, but I am outside Seoul right now.) [b]Can you or one of you mongers tell me an experience of staying over-night at an anma, especially the protocol and cost in addition to the normal service? Are these clean? Much appreciated if you can reply to this post or PM me about this.[/b]

Also, if there is any anma that offers more than a single shot on girl's goal, time (over 1 hr with girl), or anything else unusal, please let me know. [b]Or,let me know if there is any anmas charging less than the normal 180k W.[/b]

I am kind of tired of the pink room girls at RLDs now, and time is running out before I have to leave Korea. The reason why I'm getting bored.

Ok, so far I've been to Yongsan and Yong Deng Po RLD. Being Kyopo, I've been to only A-row girls. Except for my very first girl, bj's were all bb, and fs all covered. Except for one A-row girl who was over 30 and a notch-down in looks who was amazing, all these girls were pretty good, with some kissing, but hardly gfe. One of them actually said no kissing, no touching the tits, and only missionary (I became limp and she had to finish me with her hand). And, after 10-15 minutes of deed, they tell me that time is running out and to hurry up. Yongsan girls tend to be on the 10 minute side. Except for occasional super eye candy experience, the experience is getting redundant now. Oh, how excited I was when I got here few weeks ago.

So, I am little bored now having had about 9 sessions with Yongsan and Yong Deng Po girls in two weeks that I've been in Seoul so far. With 9 times, I don't have the deepest experience with RLD pink room actions but still able to say a few things. I've gone in mornings, evenings and middle of nights. Just as my impression, [b]the best time probably is at 4 am, when customers are passed through, street is empty except for girls in business and girls too tired to not give a too much crap anymore (which can be bad or good for you) and not hurry you up.[/b] Also, Yongsan A-row non-evening girls are not so good, while Yong Deng Po non-evening girls (only A-row in Yong Deng Po... sorry) are always great. I tried to look for B-row action in Yongsan, so I can get some anal, bbbjcim, longer time, or ANYthing different from what I had - what I have heard on the board. However, every time I've been there, I can't see anybody on the side streets except for this strange girl in white who always has her face away from the street. But, then again, I always looked very quickly.

So, I am now going to try anmas, preferrably ones where I can stay over night in, because I have to pay for hotel while in Seoul anyway. I figure BBS are like pink rooms of fast sex without the selection of girls.

I think I will try out Jang An Dong area and report back.[/QUOTE]


I used to sleep at a massage parlor called Finkle. I do not know if this place still exists. It is located between the Hyundai Department Store in Samsung-Dong and the Renaissance Hotel.

This massage parlor is behind a Starbucks. Sorry but I do not remember the exact directions.

Business at this place was slow after 4am. So I would just take a 3 to 4 hour nap. I was not charged for taking a nap. But I would give a 10,000 won tip and say thank you to the mamasan.

The best times (in my opinion) to visit a RLD is 8pm. Because there are not many customers and the girls are fresh, clean and ready to work. :)

4am is the best time to get a good deal.

For example, at Miari, it is 70,000 won (if you pay by cash). But pretend that you only have 50,000. 9 out of 10 times, the mamasan and the girl will accept only 50,000. After all, it is time for them to close and call it a day. And you can take your time (take an extra 15 minutes or so) with the girl.

All anmas in Korea provides sleeping rooms(95%) or matress in a huge room with other customers(5%). The anmas in Kangnam area even prepared canned beers and meals(ramen and bab(rice and side dishes). All these services are included in 180,000.

For miari, they lock the price at 70,000 for one fuck and if you pretend to have only 50,000 or 60,000 they will give you a cold back of them.

Even Koreans have to pay 70,000 and as far as I know no more foreigners at Miari because when Koreans see foreginers they think this place is history and never want to return.

Additonally, RLDs have 2 shift that normally 6:00~18:00 and 18:00 ~ 6:00 or 7:00 and if you go to late like 4:00am you can have a more relaxed session but that does not mean you will get more than you paid.

[QUOTE=Cocoroso]All anmas in Korea provides sleeping rooms(95%) or matress in a huge room with other customers(5%). The anmas in Kangnam area even prepared canned beers and meals(ramen and bab(rice and side dishes). All these services are included in 180,000.

For miari, they lock the price at 70,000 for one fuck and if you pretend to have only 50,000 or 60,000 they will give you a cold back of them.

Even Koreans have to pay 70,000 and as far as I know no more foreigners at Miari because when Koreans see foreginers they think this place is history and never want to return.

Additonally, RLDs have 2 shift that normally 6:00~18:00 and 18:00 ~ 6:00 or 7:00 and if you go to late like 4:00am you can have a more relaxed session but that does not mean you will get more than you paid.[/QUOTE]


to cocoroso

Do you know mirari service other asians , I am chinese got service there 2
year ago I know thing probably change now , they have some hot girl there
but service is too rush.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=New World Order]I used to sleep at a massage parlor called Finkle. I do not know if this place still exists. It is located between the Hyundai Department Store in Samsung-Dong and the Renaissance Hotel.

This massage parlor is behind a Starbucks. Sorry but I do not remember the exact directions.

Business at this place was slow after 4am. So I would just take a 3 to 4 hour nap. I was not charged for taking a nap. But I would give a 10,000 won tip and say thank you to the mamasan.

The best times (in my opinion) to visit a RLD is 8pm. Because there are not many customers and the girls are fresh, clean and ready to work. :)

4am is the best time to get a good deal.

For example, at Miari, it is 70,000 won (if you pay by cash). But pretend that you only have 50,000. 9 out of 10 times, the mamasan and the girl will accept only 50,000. After all, it is time for them to close and call it a day. And you can take your time (take an extra 15 minutes or so) with the girl.[/QUOTE]I'm staying at the Renaissance right now and yes, Pinkl is still there. I saw it yesterday on my taxi ride home.

I'm going to check out this anma called Lexy either tonight or tomorrow. I'll write up a report then.

[QUOTE=Cocoroso]You know why?

Because Korean people do not like to see foreigners at their venues no matter you are western or asian or black person. This is because of the fear at ADIS.

lol.[/QUOTE]

I don't know why they don't see non Koreans but I don't think fear of AIDS is the reason. I am sure Chinese or Indians have lower Aids percentage among their populations than Koreans. I really don't know why they will not see non Koreans, may be due to police raid they will get more trouble if the get caught with foreigners.

When I read the posts here and on other boards, I think Korean and Janpanese are racist, they will not let foreigners to enter some places such as some restaurants or Suana places. This is just not right.

welcome to the strife of the han. blame the japanese for them to be so xenophobic

[QUOTE=Tica Man]I don't know why they don't see non Koreans but I don't think fear of AIDS is the reason. I am sure Chinese or Indians have lower Aids percentage among their populations than Koreans. I really don't know why they will not see non Koreans, may be due to police raid they will get more trouble if the get caught with foreigners.

When I read the posts here and on other boards, I think Korean and Janpanese are racist, they will not let foreigners to enter some places such as some restaurants or Suana places. This is just not right.[/QUOTE]

do not get in their cars. i repeat...do not get in the cars. they take you way to ssoome remote area that you'll never know how to get out of. i was drinking and they tried to slip empty bottles in my karaoke room thinking i wass trashed. i knew what was going on but they still wouldn't let me leave until i paid. worst experience of my life. be careful.;

[QUOTE=pussy_dog]I had some guy offering russian girls, karaoke room girls who would spend the night at my motel, or anma experience. After talking about it at great length, he convinced me on the karaoke girls idea at 170k W. However, he wanted me to get in his car because it's supposedly not walking distance, and I said no way for safety reasons.

Later I talked to desk clerk at my motel, and he told me those karaoke places are drinking places. And, they will milk you for your money while you are getting slammed by alcohol. And, they might charge you funny on your credit card at end.

Earlier somebody was inquiring about karaoke sex places that he heard about. I am not sure if he meant these kinds. And, maybe in some places, girls actually give it up right there by the table like in Japan's pink salons or in a side room. But, being here alone in Seoul, I wouldn't want to chance it. Kyopo or no Kyopo. Plus, my Korean is not that strong.[/QUOTE]

does anyone know of any korean websites that have forums such as this? i would think that would be the best place to look for what's new these days.

i went back to gyodae/nambu bus terminal last night and the 3 on 1 was just a temporary promotion. fortunately i had the opportunity to try it out a few times before it expired. i guess this is what a lot of anmas try to do to spur business from time to time. i guess its upon us to report these things as they occur. gonna try one of these fuck hotels as soon as the next pay day comes by. got any tips before i check them out? recommendations? i'll report my experiences, i promise.

also, does anyone know about the places in buhk chang dong? aka bcd?