Hanoi

[URL]https://vietnam.craigslist.org/w4m/d/sweet-heart-girl-hanoi/6445135606.html[/URL]

Her name is Lina, an upright, dignified, English-speaking woman of 26. She's married with a 2 YO baby and want to remain faithful to her husband and baby.

She will provide sigh-seeing tours and local info, but no sex. She may be able to steer you to the right directions for what you need locally. Contact her through Craigslist and mention Captain sends you. She will understand.

How well does Carig's List serve you? Had any success?

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;2137856][URL]https://vietnam.craigslist.org/w4m/d/sweet-heart-girl-hanoi/6445135606.html[/URL]

Her name is Lina, an upright, dignified, English-speaking woman of 26. She's married with a 2 YO baby and want to remain faithful to her husband and baby.

She will provide sigh-seeing tours and local info, but no sex. She may be able to steer you to the right directions for what you need locally. Contact her through Craigslist and mention Captain sends you. She will understand.[/QUOTE]

She's serious about her job.

She said she does not want to do sex, unless there is love.

Maybe you would get lucky with both love and sex.

Hello!

I have tried to put together a list of ways to hook up with girls in Hanoi.

All of which are tested good.

1. Massage parlors, here is a list some of the better ones now, but they are not the only options:

Blue Spa 5/5 Nguyen Khanh Toan.

Mai Spa next door to Blue Spa.

Moscow Sauna Club 11/11, F361 An dng, Ho Tay.

TLT VIP Club 24-26 Phan Văand Trng Đa.

Windy VIP Massage Villa B9 Nguyen Thi Dinh.

Windy VIP Massage 265 Kim Nguu.

Windy VIP Massage 18 Ng 76 Duy Tand.

Sakura Club 217 you c, Twhy H.

Sakura Club 39 Vũ Thnh.

Sakura Club 6 I Nhand, Ba nh.

Sakura Club 175 Quan Hoa, c u Gi y.

De Palace Spa Fortuna Hotel 6 be Lang Ha.

Read more [URL]http://guysnightlife.com/finding-girls-sex-hanoi-vietnam/[/URL].

Read more [URL]http://guysnightlife.com/happy-ending-massage-spasms-hanoi/[/URL].

2. Motorcycle girls are abundant in the old quarter at night I have not tried any because I don't want them to determine where I go. But they are real and I have seen.

3. Every busy street corners at night old quarter near Hoah Kiem Lakee will have a man at the corner, he will ask you if you would like a date for the evening.

I prefer girls at my own hotel.

4. Wechat. I think WeChat is the best way to go. Fully 30% plus of the girls on WeChat are girls looking to hook up for money. Half escorts / massage service. Others free lance. Come to your hotel.

ST 1200-1500 vnd.

LT 2000-3000 Vnd.

5. [URL]https://kynu.net/gai-goi/[/URL].

6. [URL]http://thiendia.com[/URL].

Prices listed. Seems they try to jack prices up.

Find phone numbers of call girls at sites like [URL]http://td.servepics.comnv/[/URL] and GI GọI H n I. GI G I SI Gand. GI GọI Sinh Viand.

Send SMS text message to a girl to ask for a date.

If available, the girl will reply with a hotel name and address. She will meet you there.

Reply to tell what time you can come to the hotel.

Go to the hotel and book a room for 1 hour (VND 50 k-100 k / hour, about USD 3-5/ hour, pay when you check out, you can casually extend the hour), then send another message to let her know the room number.

She will come promptly, have fun. You pay for the shot, not for the time, so no need to rush.

After having fun, pay the girl the price as listed there (on average VND 300 k-500 k / shot, about USD 15-25).

7. Red Light Districts.

Sex in Hanoi red-light district is cheap and openly available. When the night comes, hundreds of girls put on sexyoy clothes to show off and sell their bodies at red-light cafes on many roads. These red-light districts in Hanoi are:

Phan Dang Luu road in Gia Lam district is only several meters long but it has been known for years as a hot spot for prostitution. At 7 pm, this street is died in red color by red light from cafes along the road. In the dim red light, girls wearing short skirts or topless sit at the door of cafes to invite men.

There are a dozen of red-light cafes on Mai Lam road in Dong Anh district.

Dozens of red-light cafes are located on a road in the suburban district of Quoc Oai. Girls are offering there a "quick train" (slang of prostitutes for one service).

In La Duong village in Duong Noi commune, Ha Dong district, there are many disguised coffee shops. There are girls in show-off clothes solicit men. Prostitutes are sitting in coffee shops along the road and waiting for "clients".

However, a bit of knowledge and research beforehand can help you find girls easily without the risk of getting cheated by fraudsters. If you are a beginner, then it would be always helpful if you choose to consult or ask someone who has an experience of visiting the red light districts of Hanoi. That person can probably help you with details and relevant information that are needed for a person to have before visiting such places.

Hanoi street hookers operating.

Phan Dang Luu (Gia Lam district).

Mai Lam (Dong Anh district).

Duong Noi and Ba La (Ha Dong district).

This list of options should get the bros many girls. I always like Northern girls. They are very sweet, gentle and sexy hehe. Will have to try them soon.

I went to the massage place at hotel Fortuna. There was no sex, not even a hand job. People were laying in beds in cubicles separated by low glass walls. Don't see how any hanhky panky can take place.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2148785]Hello!

I have tried to put together a list of ways to hook up with girls in Hanoi.

All of which are tested good.

1. Massage parlors, here is a list some of the better ones now, but they are not the only options:


Read more [URL]http://guysnightlife.com/finding-girls-sex-hanoi-vietnam/[/URL].

Read more [URL]http://guysnightlife.com/happy-ending-massage-spasms-hanoi/[/URL].

2. Motorcycle girls are abundant in the old quarter at night I have not tried any because I don't want them to determine where I go. But they are real and I have seen.

3. Every busy street corners at night old quarter near Hoah Kiem Lakee will have a man at the corner, he will ask you if you would like a date for the evening..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2148785]
2. Motorcycle girls are abundant in the old quarter at night I have not tried any because I don't want them to determine where I go. But they are real and I have seen.

3. Every busy street corners at night old quarter near Hoah Kiem Lakee will have a man at the corner, he will ask you if you would like a date for the evening.

4. Wechat. I think WeChat is the best way to go. Fully 30% plus of the girls on WeChat are girls looking to hook up for money. Half escorts / massage service. Others free lance. Come to your hotel[/QUOTE]I'm staying in the old quarter and I can't take ten steps after the sun goes down without somebody trying to sell me pussy. I passed for the same reason as the OP, I'm not putting myself under somebody else's control.

I tried Wechat and their verification process was a pain in the ass, you have to know somebody using it in order to get verified.

I didn't really come to Hanoi to get laid, I've been in BKK for the last two months so my dick can use a break so no biggie.

Thanks for the great report.

A2.

Hi Friends,

I am from Delhi and planning my first Vietnam trip in second week of April. Doing my own research and I am confident about HCMC but Hanoi seems tough. Would love to get more tips and help to make my 3-4 Hanoi stay memorable. Girl friendly hotels, pickup places, VIP MPs with FS etc in Hanoi. Please help me. Additionally is it worth to spend one night at Halong Bay? Can I take any girl there?

Looking forward help from some seniors.

Thanks,

Ge.

Still here in Hanoi now. Met up with a regular girl that I was introduced to by a former hanoi GF. This girl is very sweet with cute dimples. She was billed as not good english (true), shy (true) and a traditional Vn woman. Well, Sunday was day 1 and she got her pussy licked until she squealed loudly in my bed. Tonite after a quick dinner she said "lets go to your hotel" so we did. This girl was almost like a virgin, tells me she never touched a guys "junk". So that was a lesson to her tonite. Tomorrow will be an oral lesson. So, after giving her 2 tongue lashings down below (she never heard the term pussy she says). Turned her over and entered that tight pussy and dropped a big load in her. WOW.

Cute little boobs and butt!!

So we will see each other the other nights I'm here. But WOW. She says "you have a lot to teach me" (and so little time) hehehe.

A sweetie for sure.

GG.

Hi guys,

Let me introduce you a little bit about myself. I am 40 something male born and raised in Northern of Vietnam, then our family immigrated to Canada when I was about 20 something. I Lived / worked in Canada and northern US for about 20 years. Now I come back to Vietnam for work / fun about 3-4 months a year. So I am going to share you guys some of my limited information, since I spent my of my time in vietnam in the North, so I will discuss more about the north especially Hanoi. Hope to help you guys to stay save, have fun, and don't have to spend too much money.

First of all, prostitution in Vietnam is illegal. Mama and Papa San can go to jail for it. But the fine for Buyer (Joe) is very light, nothing serious, you get minimal fine if any. And if you are tourist / foreigner, it is even easier. Not much of problem at all, since they (the government) want to attract more tourists so they will to look other way, and let it slide if you every got caught up in some of the joints enjoy the services.

Further more, almost all the local fun places (karaoke, Massage, hotels.) are under police protection (bribery) to operate. So it is very safe, at least in big cities like Hanoi / HoChiMinh / Danang / Hai Phong.

1/ Cheapest option to have fun with local Vietnamese girl is:

- go to motels / restaurant where they have girls available: these type of setup are only available in small, rural cities / town like: B Xy D ng in & S N (H I Phng city), or Qut Lm (Nam & nh City). Girls are very cheap, from $10-20 $ for 1 shot. These motels Just go to the motels lobby, if you see lot of young girls in shorts / walking by / biking around, this is the places, tell the guy door guy which one you like and he will call her for you, the fuck room is likely within that very small motels, restaurant, room are small, often dirty, but hey, for $10 all inclusive, what do you expect right?

When I was younger, me and group of about 10 guys, usually hire a bus from Hanoi to Do Son (only 1 hr30 each way now, before used to be 4 hrs ride), each guys did about 3-6 shots, and had some sea food dinner, then come back. The total cost is still very cheap and lot of fun. We also organized orgies there, too cheap not to do it. Oh fun time.

- Using the internet to check for working girls' phone number, call or text them (of course in Vietnamese, most of them don't understand English at all, since they are not very well educated), then they will tell you what hotel they work, you go to that specific hotel, get a room (about 5 $-10 $ for the first 2 hours) when you get to the hotel, text her back your room number. She will arrive within 3-20 min. Most likely she is working in another room with another customers. This is assembly like service, she is very busy because the price is cheap. So expect to be in and out without 30 min or less. If you want her to stay more, you can discuss / negotiate before hand via text or call. These hotels are safe since most of all have shares of local polices forces.

The site I normally go to this: [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/[/URL].

They have subforum for specific area by the district. Photos are real and recent. You can use google translate to read the reviews of the vietnamese guys, provide very good info.

Each girl has very clear / specific information such as: Name and phone number, ages, body photos, when and where they work, kind of service they provide. Prices are varies. They noted the prices in Vietnamese such as 500 K = 500,000, 300 K = 300,000. These prices are normally for 1 shot on goal in 30 min sessions. The motel fee are not included and normally from $5-10 $/2 HR.

Alot of people using [URL]http://kynu.net[/URL], I tried them couple times, prices are higher and sometimes they Photoshop too much. But some nice girls to be had too.

2/ Go to Massage places:

- This options is normally more expensive then the above. Ticket are about 500 K and you need to tip at least 500 k to 1 M. And in Hanoi, not fucking allowed, only HJ or BJ. In smaller cities like Nam Dinh, the Nang, Nha Trang. You can fuck them right at the massage places. Famous places to go in Danang is M ng Thanh Hotel, Eden plaza Hotels, you can fuck them there.

- I Ha Noi, I go to Geisha, naru,. They have body slices massage, total cost for BJ would be around 1. 5 M.

3/ Go to karaoke KTV.

- This option is the most expensive, I think, but the quality of girls is better (at least from my personal experience) to be honest, I don't like this, and can only afford it sometimes. Because after said and done this cost a lot of money. But this is suitable for a night out after business meeting, to treat your business partners.

- So the way this Karaoke KTV works is: you go to the places, get to the singing room, then you ask for hostess, they will bring you girls, if you don't like, you change. You can even double up, which mean you can have 2 or 4 girls for 1 guys. But it is costly. To seat and sing without you only, you need to tip 500 K each girls, then to get them fully naked, about 1 M each. Then you can sing and dance in there. But no BJ or Full service provided at the Karaoke. If you like them you can negotiate a price with them, to your hotel or something. This could cost 2 M and up.

- The place I normally go to is Mc Queen Karaoke, 1 ch ; D a st. Nice girls, good service, but expensive.

I hope it help.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2161178]Hi guys,

Let me introduce you a little bit about myself. ...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report.

I'd only query the ST hotel room prices, usually $3 or so for 2 hours in my experience.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2161178]Hi guys,

I hope it help.[/QUOTE]Dear David,

Of course it helps. Thanks mate. It is a true pleasure to get some great info from someone who knows the country well. I know Hanoi and Hai Phong (& Do Son) quite well and already shared the info about the nice locations in some previous posts.

Thanks again!

David Cohen. Please spring for a membership so we can send you a private message. Your report was most informative.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2161490]Thanks for the detailed report.

I'd only query the ST hotel room prices, usually $3 or so for 2 hours in my experience.[/QUOTE]You are right, lower price motels can start from $3 for first 2 hours. But I tend to go for the one with starting price of $5 and up, much cleaner and it makes the experience better.

[QUOTE=Beijing4987;2161656]David Cohen. Please spring for a membership so we can send you a private message. Your report was most informative.[/QUOTE]I just did.

Let me know if I can be of help.

So one of the cheapest option to fuck young local Vietnamese girls (18-30), have an three some, orgies, four some, 5 some. Is to go Do Son, Hai Phong.

Most of the information from this topic is from [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/an-choi-do-son-thang-4-2018.1156777/[/URL].

This is a dedicated thread updated monthly on girls, and information regarding Do Son.

So Do Son is very famous for this kind of quick, cheap assembly line service. In Do Son, the famous area is called: Bo Xay Dung. More girls, and the quality is better. Same price. If you get there by taxi, they will charge you 300,000 VND / shot all inclusive. But you can negotiate to 250,000 VND / shot. Overnight is normally 750,000 VND from 2 am to 6 am. Or 1,5 M from 12 AM to 6 am.

You can rent a room there, about 300,000/ night, try to get rooms on higher floors, they are often more clean, the room in lower or main floor get too much actions, and are very dirty.

IF you want 3 some 4 some 5 some, just tell them, just multiply the cost. So if I want to get service from 3 girls at the same time. I am going to pay 750,000 or 900,000 depend on what the negotiated price for each shot is. Sometimes it is 300,000 sometimes 250,000 (local guy price).

To get to Do Son from Ha Noi, you guys can go by bus (cheapest). So from Ha Noi, you take bus to Hai Phong, I think about $5 or less, take about 1 hour 15 min. Then from Hai Phong, you take another bus to Do Son, about $2 or less, take about 1 HR min.

Here are the list of girls with there name and their number, this number is the last 3 digits of the phone number of the motel they stay. So just go to any motel in Bo Xay Dung, and ask for the name and 3 digit, they will call her over.

Last updated April 1, 2018.

Teen. Younge.

-Ngoc 887 (night only) -Tit 301-Mit 301-Thao 566-Tuyet 985-Chi 532-Van 569-Trang 555-Diep 555.

-Hang 002-Trang 686-Hien 301-Phuong 569.

-Hoan 569-Van 555-Bich 434-Phuong 434.

-Linh 169-Thao 169-Van 821.

-Huong 434-Huyen Anh 985-Huong 894-Thanh 887 (night only) -Thao 056-LE 555-Mai 907-Yen 166.

-Tram 907-Vy 907-Nhu 907-Nhi 555.

-Nhi 483-Hang 681-Lan 985.

-Ngoc 056-Linh 569-Huyen 569.

-Duong 930-Thuong 930-Giang 930.

-Linh 887 (tốI) -Ha 915.

New girl, very young but over 18.

-Quynh 301-Linh 532.

U20 to U25.

-My 887 (nnight) -Hiand 887 (night) -Uyen 056-Bich 930-Nhi be 566-Nhu 747 (night) -Trang 915.

Veteran with nice body.

-Thuy 532-Phuong 686-Ngoc 193.

Skillful Service.

-Duong 930-Tit 301-Nhu 747-Hanh 555-Thao 434.

Veteran skilful service.

-Lan 532-My 639.

Big tits.

-Duong 930-Ngoc 681-Hang 301-Phuong 720.

Taller than 1 m65.

-Tit 301-Hoan 569-Hoai 434-Ngan 868-My 083.

Note: if they see you as an foreigner, they may afraid you have a bigger dick and last longer, they get tired, tried to offer her some tips. Because out of 250,000/ vnd / shot you pay, she only get 100,000 VND / shot. Which is less than $5/ shot, very low. So they have to serve a lot of customers everyday. Some said, they served up to 22 customers a single day on high season (lot of customers last less then 15 min).

Try to avoid weekend or holiday like 30/4 and 1/5, because the line up will be bad, you spend alot of time waiting.

Also, about Do Son, said NO to the Xe Om (motorcycle guys) they will upsell you 500.000 k / shot for nice girl but actually you get the same girls and service as 250,000 k.

I'm going to be in Hanoi for three days this month. Would like some recommendations for skillful FS. Tempted by threesome. As you may have seen, I'm A fan of KYNU but doesn't seem so popular in Hanoi. Thanks for any tips. Private message is possible on my account.

Hi everyone,

I will be travelling during for 4 nights next month.

Thank you in advance for those sharing through here as I gained lots of info about the location and place to find.

But anyhow, I was wondering is there anyway I can make a appointment with the girls for whole day session (which I can bring them out as well).

If there is, anyone know about the charges if I'm taking them full day?

Dear Mongers,

I will be visiting Hanoi for 3 days towards the end of the month. Any recommendations on sure shot massage parlor with full service, where the staff knows basic english? I am inclined to try rose vip. Is it still open and english friendly?

Also, my very first time in viet, do the masseur understand basic words like BJ, CIM? If not, can any kind soul please PM me the Vietnamese equivalent of the same?

Thanks in advance friends.

Safe Mongering,

LC.

I just joined the community, but have benefited a lot from reading your posts. So time to give something back. I recently discovered 2 websites with a pool of hundreds beautiful ladies [URL]http://kieunuviet.info/[/URL] and [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan********trung-tam-share-hang-gai-goi-ha-noi-mien-bac.189/[/URL] The good thing are the photos and the price, given per shot, the phone number and many more details. I tried about 10 girls so far, and was happy in 8 cases. Mostly you will get exactly what you selected and pay for. Standard prices are 300-500 k. Of course tips are welcome, but the girls do not ask for it. Now, everything on the websites is in Vietnamese, and normally the girls know little to nothing English. But actually it is pretty easy. All you need is a phone and googlemaps. The girls are listed according to towns (Hanoi, HCMC) and then areas / streets where they work, such as Tran Duy Hung or Nguyen Khanh Toan. Once you made your selection, you text the girl something like "Kieunuviet (or Thiendia). Anh John muon gap them Linh Chi. 21:00 ok?" The first word is the reference to the site, where you found her. Then it says "Mr John (your name) wants to meet Ms Linh Chi (name of the girl)". Within 15-30 minutes (the girls are busy, some have regular jobs or study), you will get a message with the name and address of a guest house (nha nghi) or little hotel, normally in a small alley off the main road. You should find it on your map or get help from your taxi / grab driver. Get a room (anywhere from 100-200 k for 2 hours, no need for papers) and text the room number to the girl. Within another 15-30 minutes she should be there and make you happy. Good luck!

Went to Rose VIP today. Chose the Japanese VIP massage 90 minutes for 700 k (includes a drink etc. Too). Didn't have to wait was asked to follow the guy and was immediately put into the room. Must mention that the reception staff was very friendly and helpful, also you need to pay later.

In comes a beautiful viet lady (told her name as Ha), mid 20's, perhaps pretty face, medium racks and some flesh around thighs and bums overall 6-7/10 in my books (I must mention that I have a bias towards viet women now, I have traveled to 20+ countries and somehow, find them most beautiful, to each one his own. Haha). Was fun but knew zero English not even Money Honey. So, while we talked throughout, none of us understood what the other one was saying and we kept laughing.

She got me into birth day suit, playing with Johnny right from the beginning; followed by Sauna for 10-12 minutes, while she prepared the bath. Bath, followed by dry massage, followed by Nuru. Dry massage skills were zero, so please don't look forward to it not sure because of the lady or that's true for the entire place. Nuru is worth mentioning I didn't know they use their mouth too with hot water and Listerine was something new and a turn on for me. Was a good experience. Followed by slight BBBJ and release (no CIM).

Although I liked the lady, wasn't satisfied with overall experience. Maybe because a) zero english so it was very difficult to tell her what to do. B) We finished everything in 60 minutes, I am pretty sure some things would've been rushed (I look like a proper tourist with very diff ethnicity etc.), might have played a part C) BBJ skills very very bad in fact she was focusing mostly on balls and didn't do Johnny more than 5 seconds overall even after asking through actions. D) The window on the door is of glass (you can close it if you open the almirah door adjacent to it) and despite asking multiple times she never closed it was a bummer.

My first pop in Vietnam will learn for sure. Also, felt Hanoi is cold for mongering (or maybe I haven't found the right places) - Looking forward to better experiences in Saigon.

Face 8/10.

Body 7 /10.

Dry Massage 0 /10.

Nuru Massage 8/10 although don't have any benchmark here.

BJ 2/ 10.

Damages 700 counter + 700 tips (not VFM considering good Kynu girls are 500 k; Saigon hot tocs are 400k).

WIR. Place yes; Lady no. Saw one very pretty spinner in one of the other rooms while going to the bathroom.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2162098]So one of the cheapest option to fuck young local Vietnamese girls (18-30), have an three some, orgies, four some, 5 some. Is to go Do Son, Hai Phong.

Most of the information from this topic is from [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/an-choi-do-son-thang-4-2018.1156777/[/URL].

This is a dedicated thread updated monthly on girls, and information regarding Do Son.

So Do Son is very famous for this kind of quick, cheap assembly line service. In Do Son, the famous area is called: Bo Xay Dung. More girls, and the quality is better. Same price. If you get there by taxi, they will charge you 300,000 VND / shot all inclusive. But you can negotiate to 250,000 VND / shot. Overnight is normally 750,000 VND from 2 am to 6 am. Or 1,5 M from 12 AM to 6 am.[/QUOTE]Hi David,

Great post. Probably one of the most informative about Do Son I have found yet. Do you have any recommendations on where to stay in Do Son that's close to the action? Google reviews for Khách sạand Xâwhy theựng, are decent, but the photos on google make it looks like a regular hotel and not one for having guest stop by. Would you suggest this hotel or going down the street more? Recommendation for hotel that is in the action, decent hotel (not dirty) has a room safe, offers over night instead of short time, and of course guest friendly or even provides line up.

Thanks again for your help!

[QUOTE=FigTree;2168316]Once you made your selection, you text the girl something like "Kieunuviet (or Thiendia). Anh John muon gap them Linh Chi. 21:00 ok?" The first word is the reference to the site, where you found her. Then it says "Mr John (your name) wants to meet Ms Linh Chi (name of the girl)". Within 15-30 minutes (the girls are busy, some have regular jobs or study), you will get a message with the name and address of a guest house (nha nghi) or little hotel, normally in a small alley off the main road. You should find it on your map or get help from your taxi / grab driver. Get a room (anywhere from 100-200 k for 2 hours, no need for papers) and text the room number to the girl.[/QUOTE]Thanks FigTree for the post, I just joined too. A few quick q's if you or anyone can help.

Is that text exactly what you send, or good enough to get a response? "Kieunuviet (or Thiendia). Anh John muon gap them Linh Chi. 21:00 OK?

And when you get to the hotel, do they always offer a short time room or is it a special request?

I can confirm what David said is 100% correct. I'm Vietnamese and occasionally I go to Do son where prob one of the best value for money in Vietnam. There are few other places but from Hanoi, do son is the easiest to reach.

[QUOTE=NewToTheWorld;2174358]I can confirm what David said is 100% correct. I'm Vietnamese and occasionally I go to Do son where prob one of the best value for money in Vietnam. There are few other places but from Hanoi, do son is the easiest to reach.[/QUOTE]Hey,

Do you know some good value places like that which are near to Saigon?

Thank you.

[QUOTE=NewToTheWorld;2174358]I can confirm what David said is 100% correct. I'm Vietnamese and occasionally I go to Do son where prob one of the best value for money in Vietnam. There are few other places but from Hanoi, do son is the easiest to reach.[/QUOTE]Hey NewToTheWorld,

Any recommendation of hotels, hostels to stay in Do Son that's right in the action? Are they all short time? I'm Vietnamese, born in US. Third time to VN but first time to Do Son and been wondering how this place is. Much needed advice.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=BlueBaron;2174646]Hey,

Do you know some good value places like that which are near to Saigon?

Thank you.[/QUOTE]BlueBaron,

Have you been to Vung Tau, its not quite the same as Do Son but I have plans to check out that city due to other reports I have found. Interested in what you think.

[QUOTE=Adaptivia;2174117]Thanks FigTree for the post, I just joined too. A few quick q's if you or anyone can help.

Is that text exactly what you send, or good enough to get a response? "Kieunuviet (or Thiendia). Anh John muon gap them Linh Chi. 21:00 OK?

And when you get to the hotel, do they always offer a short time room or is it a special request?[/QUOTE]Sorry, the spell check spoiled my Vietnamese. It should read correctly: "Anh (your name) muon gap (girl's name) (time)". And yes, all the mini hotels (or Nha Nghi) will know exactly what you came for.

Sorry, the spell check spoiled my Vietnamese. It should read correctly: "Anh (your name) muon gap (girl's name) (time)". And yes, all the mini hotels (or Nha Nghi) will know exactly what you came for.

First of all, thank you guys very much for sharing how to get girls in Hanoi city.

I have read pages and now I arrive to Hanoi city for a weekend.

I found it is relatively difficult to have FS or good experience here.

And I found one thing: there are many girls message me on wechat and beetalk.

Some of them understand English and some do not.

Most of them just offer sex, and the price is about 1 M / one hour.

They even send some photos.

Have anyone meet up with this kind of girl and have some experience to share?

Many thanks.

This has been discussed many times. Avoid these options because they are all bait and switch. There are some websites that provide better options. Even then the info is photoshopped and touched up. There are limit the options for mongering in vn. There are bars, karaoke venues that you can try. However, these options are not cheap.

[QUOTE=AKimmy;2182013]First of all, thank you guys very much for sharing how to get girls in Hanoi city.

I have read pages and now I arrive to Hanoi city for a weekend.

I found it is relatively difficult to have FS or good experience here.

And I found one thing: there are many girls message me on wechat and beetalk.

Some of them understand English and some do not.

Most of them just offer sex, and the price is about 1 M / one hour.

They even send some photos.

Have anyone meet up with this kind of girl and have some experience to share?

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]

I have heard some success from Badoo users (comparable to tinder). Locals use to this dating app. It may take some effort such as dinning prior to closing a deal, but there is no guarantee of any action. It may take too much time at the end of the day.

[QUOTE=AKimmy;2182013]First of all, thank you guys very much for sharing how to get girls in Hanoi city.

I have read pages and now I arrive to Hanoi city for a weekend.

I found it is relatively difficult to have FS or good experience here.

And I found one thing: there are many girls message me on wechat and beetalk.

Some of them understand English and some do not.

Most of them just offer sex, and the price is about 1 M / one hour.

They even send some photos.

Have anyone meet up with this kind of girl and have some experience to share?

Many thanks.[/QUOTE]

Buy local SIM card.

Download WeChat to your phone.

Setup WeChat account.

Go to Discover. People Nearby. Top right 4 dots select females only. Start search.

It will show girls in order of distance from your location.

Choose girl. Send friend request to several pretty girls you see nearby. Again, It tells distance.

Do not worry language. WeChat translates if you touch conversation.

There are many many girl's available.

Everyone I've met, which has been many are real girl.

I would guess 50% are looking to hook up.

More for money but not all.

If you cannot Get laid, something wrong.

It works everyday. Great!

Good hunting!

Hi,

I will be in Hanoi next week. Are the hotels in Hoan Kiem girl friendly? Is there any particular street to pick up freelancers for a night of fun? I managed to get a lady for a night at 2 million dong last month. Is this the rate in Hanoi too for one night?

Thank you for sharing. A couple of questions 1. How long would you say it takes to get these wechat girls to bed (1 date, 3 dates, etc)? 2. Do you have to pretend you are interested in a long term relationship (boyfriend / girlfriend)? (Personally, I just cannot misrepresent myself in these situations).

I will be in Vietnam for 2 weeks and plan to try Zalo, Wechat and Tinder. Additionally, I would like to try a legit massage place and get a date with the girl. I have been RTFF but have not seen stories on this. Any recommendations for a massage parlor with the intent to get the girl on a date?

On another, it would be great to hook up in Vietnam, when it is closer to my trip I will PM you and AddisonVo. Best,

TC.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2182783]Buy local SIM card.

Download WeChat to your phone.

Setup WeChat account.

Go to Discover. People Nearby. Top right 4 dots select females only. Start search.

It will show girls in order of distance from your location.

Choose girl. Send friend request to several pretty girls you see nearby. Again, It tells distance.

Do not worry language. WeChat translates if you touch conversation.

There are many many girl's available.[/QUOTE]

Thank you for sharing. A couple of questions 1. How long would you say it takes to get these wechat girls to bed (1 date, 3 dates, etc)? 2. Do you have to pretend you are interested in a long term relationship (boyfriend / girlfriend)? (Personally, I just cannot misrepresent myself in these situations).

I will be in Vietnam for 2 weeks and plan to try Zalo, Wechat and Tinder. Additionally, I would like to try a legit massage place and get a date with the girl. I have been RTFF but have not seen stories on this. Any recommendations for a massage parlor with the intent to get the girl on a date?

On another, it would be great to hook up in Vietnam, when it is closer to my trip I will PM you and AddisonVo. Best,

The WeChat players will go to bed by coming straight to your hotel room.

The innocent girls maybe 3-4 dates from experience.

Good hunting.

I return July.

Rainman.

Hi,

I will be in Hanoi next week. Are the hotels in Hoan Kiem girl friendly? Is there any particular street to pick up freelancers for a night of fun? I managed to get a lady for a night at 2 million dong last month. Is this the rate in Hanoi too for one night?

2,000,000 vnd fair price all night.

Some more.

Central Park Hotel great location. 58 Hang Be. No problem with girls Fair price.

WeChat will work great.

You will have 50 girls near this Hotel looking for You online.

Remember, discover people Nearby goes by distance from your location. Hotel is central location.

Good hunting!

Rainman.

I lived in Hanoi for a few years when I was single but last time I was there I was not so had to do the sneak-outs.

My last visit was about 5 years ago and I still had a big roster of ex girlfriends who I could text and meet at a mini hotel. They were all married professional women with good jobs but like most Viet women, love a good off the books pounding in their lunch break.

Another thing I did was to visit a hot toc, get a BJ and exchange numbers with the girl if I like her, arrange a mini hotel meeting. Had great results doing this.

I'm back in Hanoi in a few months and will have to be extra sneaky. No time to mess around and don't want to be seen in public. I may try one of those websites where you order one to a mini hotel.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2182783]Buy local SIM card.

Download WeChat to your phone.

Setup WeChat account.

Go to Discover. People Nearby. Top right 4 dots select females only. Start search.

It will show girls in order of distance from your location.

Choose girl. Send friend request to several pretty girls you see nearby. Again, It tells distance.

Do not worry language. WeChat translates if you touch conversation.

There are many many girl's available.

Everyone I've met, which has been many are real girl.

I would guess 50% are looking to hook up.

More for money but not all.

If you cannot Get laid, something wrong.

It works everyday. Great!

Good hunting![/QUOTE]We Chat is great but in Vietnam, Zalo is the King of the chat apps. It works the same as we chat but it is a Vietnam based app and is available in Vietnamese and English. I use it to hunt down the Vietnamese here in Bangkok and Lao. But in Vietnam, it will be swamped I am sure.

The issue with Zalo is that it doesn't have an option to find people according to a set criteria. If you don't know their phone number, it is impossible to locate them.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2183554]We Chat is great but in Vietnam, Zalo is the King of the chat apps. It works the same as we chat but it is a Vietnam based app and is available in Vietnamese and English. I use it to hunt down the Vietnamese here in Bangkok and Lao. But in Vietnam, it will be swamped I am sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bleble;2183585]The issue with Zalo is that it doesn't have an option to find people according to a set criteria. If you don't know their phone number, it is impossible to locate them.[/QUOTE]You can set up zalo to find only males or females or both in an age range. I find that good enough to find ladies. And, you can get zalo for the mac and windows computers as well as your phone which I find helpful since my fingers are big to type on a phone LOL.

As far as wechat goes, in the South (HCMC), when you sign in and search you will get bombarded with requests. Most are working ladies.

GG.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2183585]The issue with Zalo is that it doesn't have an option to find people according to a set criteria. If you don't know their phone number, it is impossible to locate them.[/QUOTE]This is interesting. Please tell me what the We Chat people nearby feature can do that the Zalo people nearby feature cannot do? Both apps allow you to search by gender and age range. What else do you need? What other app allows you to do more? Each profile shows their distance away as well in both Zalo and We chat Apps. What do you want? Would you like the app to post their exact address? You are comparing the app to an escort website and its not. Its a chat app that just so happens to have some working girls on it. We chat is the same. Line is the same. Its just another way to meet ladies P4P and non P4P. Its amazing how some punters want everything handed to them on a silver platter. I myself like variety and the thrill of sometimes playing the game in a bar or on an app. Other times Im happy to call an escort from a site. Think about it. Now CL is gone and those providers didnt always leave their numbers. You had to add them on some chat app or send them an email through the CL system. The same idea I think.

So there is no issue here. You can search by location, gender, and age. Good enough for me.

Yes!

Zalo is used by the majority of Vietnamese people.

However, big difference is that WeChat can translate the conversation for you!

You write your message in English, they can read it in Vietnamese or whatever language they use. I. E. Chinese.

They can respond to you in Vietnamese, and you touch conversation and ask WeChat to translate to English. That beats cutting and pasting to translate in another program.

I basically find Zalo much more difficult to communicate with others.

Yes, I've met people on Zalo, but, with much more effort.

From my personal experience, there are at least 5 X more players to hook up with on WeChat.

I find Zalo to be more chat and friend type hook ups.

My observations are from about 9 months experience in Vietnam and about 3 years in China.

If you are unable have good hunting on WeChat, something is wrong.

Good hunting my friends!

Rainman.

This is interesting. Please tell me what the We Chat people nearby feature can do that the Zalo people nearby feature cannot do? Both apps allow you to search by gender and age range. What else do you need? What other app allows you to do more? Each profile shows their distance away as well in both Zalo and We chat Apps. What do you want? Would you like the app to post their exact address? You are comparing the app to an escort website and its not. Its a chat app that just so happens to have some working girls on it. We chat is the same. Line is the same. Its just another way to meet ladies P4P and non P4P. Its amazing how some punters want everything handed to them on a silver platter. I myself like variety and the thrill of sometimes playing the game in a bar or on an app. Other times I'm happy to call an escort from a site. Think about it. Now CL is gone and those providers didn't always leave their numbers. You had to add them on some chat app or send them an email through the CL system. The same idea I think.

So there is no issue here. You can search by location, gender, and age. Good enough for me.

I stand corrected on Zalo as I have never had experience with Zalo and connecting with a working girl. Wechat on the other hand is bait and switch. Girls do not match photos, and person you contacting most of the time is the pimp.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;2185349]This is interesting. Please tell me what the We Chat people nearby feature can do that the Zalo people nearby feature cannot do? Both apps allow you to search by gender and age range. What else do you need? What other app allows you to do more? Each profile shows their distance away as well in both Zalo and We chat Apps. What do you want? Would you like the app to post their exact address? You are comparing the app to an escort website and its not. Its a chat app that just so happens to have some working girls on it. We chat is the same. Line is the same. Its just another way to meet ladies P4P and non P4P. Its amazing how some punters want everything handed to them on a silver platter. I myself like variety and the thrill of sometimes playing the game in a bar or on an app. Other times Im happy to call an escort from a site. Think about it. Now CL is gone and those providers didnt always leave their numbers. You had to add them on some chat app or send them an email through the CL system. The same idea I think.

So there is no issue here. You can search by location, gender, and age. Good enough for me.[/QUOTE]

Zalo pro: it's a Vietnamese app therefore more likely to find services for locals unlike wechat which is for foreigners.

Zalo con: everyone has it. Unlike Wechat, the search function has a lot more people on it so the search takes a lot longer.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2185496]I stand corrected on Zalo as I have never had experience with Zalo and connecting with a working girl. Wechat on the other hand is bait and switch. Girls do not match photos, and person you contacting most of the time is the pimp.[/QUOTE]

Anyone want to hit the clubs tonight?

I have mongered in China, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Never in Vietnam. The post shown below couple of websites. OMG the Vietnamese girls are gorgeous!

As I speak "zero" Vietnamese and most of the girls no English, definitely will be a challenge to connect. I do have a trip coming up with nine nights in Hanoi. Looking to stay in the Old Quarter.

I guess I will have to find some spa with some English spoken. As far as the "thiendia" site. Amazing. Too late to learn Vietnamese now. LOL.

Many reports show the use of WeChat as being able to translate and connect although many reports show this to be a "bait and switch".

I will follow the forum to see if I can obtain some other information.

Stay Safe and enjoy.

[QUOTE=FigTree;2168316]I just joined the community, but have benefited a lot from reading your posts. So time to give something back. I recently discovered 2 websites with a pool of hundreds beautiful ladies [URL]http://kieunuviet.info/[/URL] and [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan********trung-tam-share-hang-gai-goi-ha-noi-mien-bac.189/[/URL] The good thing are the photos and the price, given per shot, the phone number and many more details. I tried about 10 girls so far, and was happy in 8 cases. Mostly you will get exactly what you selected and pay for. Standard prices are 300-500 k. Of course tips are welcome, but the girls do not ask for it. Now, everything on the websites is in Vietnamese, and normally the girls know little to nothing English. But actually it is pretty easy. All you need is a phone and googlemaps. The girls are listed according to towns (Hanoi, HCMC) and then areas / streets where they work, such as Tran Duy Hung or Nguyen Khanh Toan. Once you made your selection, you text the girl something like "Kieunuviet (or Thiendia). Anh John muon gap them Linh Chi. 21:00 ok?" The first word is the reference to the site, where you found her. Then it says "Mr John (your name) wants to meet Ms Linh Chi (name of the girl)". Within 15-30 minutes (the girls are busy, some have regular jobs or study), you will get a message with the name and address of a guest house (nha nghi) or little hotel, normally in a small alley off the main road. You should find it on your map or get help from your taxi / grab driver. Get a room (anywhere from 100-200 k for 2 hours, no need for papers) and text the room number to the girl. Within another 15-30 minutes she should be there and make you happy. Good luck![/QUOTE]

Ok guys, if you read through this Hanoi section you will get the gist that Hanoi is no monger paradise. That is an understatement!! Geez it was tough to get action here, possible, but not really worth the hassle compared to Saigon. If you are heading to Vietnam for the purpose of bonking sweet, young Viets, then stick with the South would be my rule from now on.

Here's my take on what was available.

Wandering through the old quarter during the day looking for a massage shop is a waste of time. I enquired at a few and even if they had a cutie at the front, they were just promotion girls and don't do massage. I actually didn't try any of these as the vibe indicated nothing would be available. Happy to be corrected if that's not the case. At night time I did get the moto taxi offering girls etc, so I decided to follow one lady as long as it was walking distance and I was in control of the situation. She said there is only one place in walking distance and it would "all inclusive for 1 M", so off we walk for 5 minutes to what would be like a "hot toc" in Saigon. About 6 decent girls to choose from and 3 skinny, heavily tattooed pimps minding them.

I paid the $1 M and up the stairs we go for our romp. The room upstairs was exactly like I had seen in some places in Saigon, with a massage table separated by a curtain, and around 5 tables in the room altogether. The girl was 22 and started off very friendly with some cuddling and gentle massage. After 15 minutes I started to remove her clothes and that's where things took a turn for the worse. She was asking for another $1 M for a BJ. I decided to cut my loss and get dressed as mr happy wasn't so happy anymore and I didn't know what sort of situation was develop with the skinny dudes. As I got dressed she indicated that she can do BJ without the tip, so off we go again and I eventually get a pretty fine BBBJ to completion. Back downstairs the lady who took me there is waiting and also asks for a tip. I give her $50 K to keep the peace, knowing full well that she probably already been paid $200 k finders fee. As I go to leave the boss indicated I can go back tomorrow for $800 K.

So the next evening I walked back myself, choose another girl and have a much better experience with BBBJ to completion and no further whinging by the girl. In the table a few curtains away another Aussie guy was having a great time getting blown by 2 girls at the same time. I think I heard he tipped them $100 K each at the end and they seemed happy – although no idea how much he paid at the entrance. I saw a few tourists being dropped off there on motorbikes on my way out. The address is 16 Hai Tuong Alley, Ta Hien St according to the business card.

On the way out I spoke with a guy and he told me there is a similar place about 200 m away on the same street (back towards the lake). I did find it and go in and have a look. They wanted $900 K entrance for what seemed like a very similar operation. The address from the business card for that is 20 Hang Muoi. Both places are walking distance from the centre of old quarter.

Tomorrow I will update on the wechat / zalo experiences.

[QUOTE=Firebird;2195248]I have mongered in China, Philippines, Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia and Singapore. Never in Vietnam. The post shown below couple of websites. OMG the Vietnamese girls are gorgeous!
[/QUOTE]Yes you are right they are damn gorgeous, but if you have mongered in those countries, then don't have too high expectation on the Vietnam mongering scene, especially 9 days in Hanoi will be tough. Hopefully your ticket home goes via one of those other countries. Or at least you have time to pop down to Saigon.

[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;2195818]Ok guys, if you read through this Hanoi section you will get the gist that Hanoi is no monger paradise. That is an understatement!! Geez it was tough to get action here, possible, but not really worth the hassle compared to Saigon. If you are heading to Vietnam for the purpose of bonking sweet, young Viets, then stick with the South would be my rule from now on..[/QUOTE]These places the real price is under 300 k, last year I paid 250 k and this is again confirmed by Viet language forums.

[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;2195821]Yes you are right they are damn gorgeous, but if you have mongered in those countries, then don't have too high expectation on the Vietnam mongering scene, especially 9 days in Hanoi will be tough. Hopefully your ticket home goes via one of those other countries. Or at least you have time to pop down to Saigon.[/QUOTE]Hey Asian Lover OZ, many thanks for your FR concerning the massage places in the Old Quarter. I will try the first place you mentioned. Yes I too heard that HCM City is much better place to find "talent" than in Hanoi. Unfortunately this trip does not include HCM.

So in Hanoi I will do the best with what is being offered. If I find something worthwhile, I will report. Thanks for providing the address.

After Hanoi, I will be in the Philippines for close to two weeks. There talent is plentiful to stay overnight for little money. Definitely will be the better part of the trip.

[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;2195821]Yes you are right they are damn gorgeous, but if you have mongered in those countries, then don't have too high expectation on the Vietnam mongering scene, especially 9 days in Hanoi will be tough. Hopefully your ticket home goes via one of those other countries. Or at least you have time to pop down to Saigon.[/QUOTE]Hey Asian Lover OZ, when I travel, especially in the Philippines, I usually bring the girl to my hotel and keep her overnight. Lot more relaxing.

From what I have read, this is not possible in Vietnam? Especially in Hanoi I guess. Or is it?

And the next question, I would assume that most hotels in Hanoi are not girl friendly. Correct?

Look forward to your further reports.

[QUOTE=Firebird;2195884]Hey Asian Lover OZ, when I travel, especially in the Philippines, I usually bring the girl to my hotel and keep her overnight. Lot more relaxing.

From what I have read, this is not possible in Vietnam? Especially in Hanoi I guess. Or is it?

And the next question, I would assume that most hotels in Hanoi are not girl friendly. Correct?

Look forward to your further reports.[/QUOTE]I have had NO trouble in Hanoi and Haiphong keeping a girl overnight, only trouble was in HCMC. I tend to stay in the smaller "boutique" hotels (20-30 rooms per hotel), there are many in the old quarter. They are cheaper, comfortable, usually good wifi, include breakfast and very friendly. Many will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for about $15 USD which takes the pressure off using some scammer offering you a ride. Also, I find the staff is more than willing to go with you to a nearby shop to get a local sim card or whatever you need. Its easy to get to know the staff, manager and even the owners and they are cool with it as long as the girl has her IC (or ID) with her. No problem, no questions, not even any looks hehehe. I have been going to these cities for 10 years now, not an issue as far as I am concerned. Be polite, smile, chat a bit and you will be able to do what you want to in terms of guests (and hopefully you will be able to do what you want to the overnight guest hehe). And don't be a Cheap Charlie, leave the staff a nice tip (there usually is a tip jar) and feel free to tip the maids too, 100,000 VND each for the maids and 500,000 for the hotel tip jar. that is less than $50 USD total.

The only non-local that stayed with me was a friend from singapore who wanted to visit hanoi with someone she knew..that was me. No problem at all. And if you are going to ask how I find girls..i use tagged, vietnamesecupid, wechat and zalo (you can use google translate to chat and keep your sentences short and to the point). Sorry, no contacts to share, I'm greedy and keep them to myself hehe. Many of these girls are hungry for affection and oral sex (seems that the Vn guys aren't into eating pussy from what the girls tell me)...you do that and you will be a hero. Some of the ones I have met have been 'regular girls" that know little about sex other than missionary and the guy finishes and its over...so they appreciate a westerner giving them something they rarely got (as in they get to cum).

GG.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2195914]I have had NO trouble in Hanoi and Haiphong keeping a girl overnight, only trouble was in HCMC. I tend to stay in the smaller "boutique" hotels (20-30 rooms per hotel), there are many in the old quarter. They are cheaper, comfortable, usually good wifi, include breakfast and very friendly. Many will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for about $15 USD which takes the pressure off using some scammer offering you a ride. Also, I find the staff is more than willing to go with you to a nearby shop to get a local sim card or whatever you need. Its easy to get to know the staff, manager and even the owners and they are cool with it as long as the girl has her IC (or ID) with her. No problem, no questions, not even any looks hehehe. I have been going to these cities for 10 years now, not an issue as far as I am concerned. Be polite, smile, chat a bit and you will be able to do what you want to in terms of guests (and hopefully you will be able to do what you want to the overnight guest hehe). And don't be a Cheap Charlie, leave the staff a nice tip (there usually is a tip jar) and feel free to tip the maids too, 100,000 VND each for the maids and 500,000 for the hotel tip jar. that is less than $50 USD total.

The only non-local that stayed with me was a friend from singapore who wanted to visit hanoi with someone she knew..that was me. No problem at all. And if you are going to ask how I find girls..i use tagged, vietnamesecupid, wechat and zalo (you can use google translate to chat and keep your sentences short and to the point). Sorry, no contacts to share, I'm greedy and keep them to myself hehe. Many of these girls are hungry for affection and oral sex (seems that the Vn guys aren't into eating pussy from what the girls tell me)...you do that and you will be a hero. Some of the ones I have met have been 'regular girls" that know little about sex other than missionary and the guy finishes and its over...so they appreciate a westerner giving them something they rarely got (as in they get to cum).

GG.[/QUOTE]WOW Geneva Guy! Super information! Now I am feeling bit more positive that my nine nights in Hanoi will be with "talent" to keep the fun going. Hopefully overnight. One of the things I absolutely maintain with my travels is to EVERY Morning leave a large tip (what they consider large) on the bed for the hotel help. The amount of "extras" I find when I return is unbelievable. Yeah you are right. You give "extra" and you get lot more back.

Can you off hand recommend some hotels in the Old Quarter? I read in the forum that wechat is good approach as it provides translation. So I will try that and hopefully will be lucky.

What ever it takes to make the girls happy. I am willing to do. From toes to nose and in-between. Haha!!

Once again many thanks for the info. Have fun and stay safe!!

So I joined Vietnamese Cupid to gain access to some of the girls for my visit. Perhaps I did it incorrectly.

After immediately receiving a whole bunch of "email messages", I was alerted that I need to sign up for either gold or platinum program to view the message.

So I signed up for the 3 month platinum but when I went to view the incoming message I received another alert that I need to complete this long safety form!

Definitely no completing the form. This is BS.

Perhaps I did it incorrectly? Have you received this "safety message" to complete?

Appreciate some input. Thanks!

I had a one month gold subscription last month without any "safety form".

But I did notice a behavior in that there are lots of messages sent to you when you don't have a paid account. Then after you sign up, the messages sort of dry up.

Can't say for sure if that's what they are doing but it would be make good business sense (albeit unethical) to send these random messages to encourage guys to switch to a paid account to unlock the message.

I never had any luck finding open minded girls from VC. I did meet some wonderful girlfriend types but with limited time wasn't able to seal the deal.

[QUOTE=Firebird;2196141]So I joined Vietnamese Cupid to gain access to some of the girls for my visit. Perhaps I did it incorrectly.

After immediately receiving a whole bunch of "email messages", I was alerted that I need to sign up for either gold or platinum program to view the message.

So I signed up for the 3 month platinum but when I went to view the incoming message I received another alert that I need to complete this long safety form!

Definitely no completing the form. This is BS.

Perhaps I did it incorrectly? Have you received this "safety message" to complete?

Appreciate some input. Thanks![/QUOTE]

My experience in Hanoi on wechat in particular is completely different to Saigon.

1) There were actually minimal girls openly advertising on wechat.

2) The very very few obvious ones on Zalo seem to get shutdown within 24 hrs.

I never received any "cold calls" from Wechat. Unlike Saigon where I was bombarded with dozens of contact requests every day.

Despite that, I did have some success.

There was one average looking lady that was advertising massage on wechat and she responded positively with photos of 4 ladies that could come to the hotel for massage. I mentioned I was in 5 star hotel and she said it would be no problem.

Of the 4 photos, only 1 was sort of interesting so I gave it a shot. Massage price was 800 K for 90 mins. It was during the day and I had no idea what would happen with the hotel, being a luxury hotel in the French Qtr.

Sure enough 10 minutes later the phone rings and says Mr ALO, Ms Thuy is here to see you, shall I send her to you room? Absolutely Mr Reception that would be most helpful. Up to room come a late 20's, possibly early 30 reasonably looking lady that did match the picture (although the picture was probably a few years old). I didn't beat around the Bush and immediately disrobed by myself and asked her to join me in the bed, to which she eagerly agreed. A lovely 90 minutes went by with some cuddling, kissing, BBBJ and then onto an amazing BBxx which I couldn't help, it's very rare that I would go there, but she was so tight and hungry for some Aussie loving we just went for it with me finishing all over her stomach. She ended with some actual massage and she was very happy with another $800 K tip. A fantastic surprise session compared to the previous couple of days in the old quarter.

The next day I messaged the same owner and said I would pay more if she can find a lady under 21 yo, but she replied saying she only has the 4 girls working in her massage shop and she's not a pimp (or words to that effect). She talked me into trying another who looked reasonable in the photo, but actually when she turned up she looked even better. Unfortunately, she was a single mum so when the clothes came off I lost a bit of interest in taking it all the way as I'm a fussy bugger and like my ladies unblemished. Never mind, I had my Japanese school girl uniform with me and she put it on, which suited here to a T (help cover up the baby signs). She was super keen for FS as well, but I was content for some extended BBBJ with photos as well. Gobbled up and swallowed the lot with heaps of video and photos. Also, she made sure she stayed for the entire 90 minutes by doing massage as well. Tipped the same $800 K.

I messaged many ladies on we chat, and this lady owner was basically the only one that responded, which turned out ok, but I did waste a hell of a lot of time in the process. At least it wasn't a bait a switch like 99% of Saigon Wechats.

Here's my few words on a trip I had in Vietnam few months ago.

Arrived in DaNang for a couple of days, then went to Hanoi then Sapa.

Danang.

Prior to arriving in DaNang, had some Tinder action and chatted with this funny Viet girl. We got along and she even picked me up at the airport. Short hair, tattoos, not as attractive as on the pictures but fun.

She was going to a party with some friends at a bar and I joined. Few hours later, trashed, she takes me out for dinner and picks up the bill: her way to welcome me in DaNang!

We headed to my hotel to finish off the night, but she was a little chubby and not quite to my taste. She was also playing the dead-fish. I did a bit of touching here and there and then just decided to sleep.

Next day decided to try out Bamboo Green. Was mid afternoon. Premises are pretty old. Small cost (can't remember) for massage. Brought to a room with shower where I'm told to wait. Comes in I'd say some 35+ woman, thin but ugly. Tells me to strip and take a shower. After the shower I hop on the massage table and she starts her massage. Was pretty decent and eventually offers me a BJ for 500 K. I would have gladly accepted but she was just too damn scary. I then felt sorry for her and tipped her 100 and then left.

Hanoi.

Had this girl that I connected with on Tinder. We spent the evening together and she was quite fun. She just didn't want to come back to my hotel that night. We agreed to see each other the next day, but prior to meeting, I wanted to make sure that some action would take place, in order not to waste my time. Follows some blablabla where she tells me, she's not that kind of girl and so on. I drop the idea and we never met again.

Decided to to go to that Moscow Sauna thing. It's a short bike ride from the old quarter. It's located in a residential area, basically surrounded by apartment buildings and almost no shops.

I end up paying 900 K and I'm led upstairs. They offer some sort of membership for a cost, but as I was not going to come back, I just declined. What follows is a series of different rooms and baths. First a steam room, where a girl in bikini joins you and plays with you for like 10 minutes. You're then brought to a dry heat room, always with the girl. She was bubbly, playful and kept smiling. After that I think we ended up in a hot pool. That's where a bit more action took place, she started giving me a HJ and I played with her pussy. Then she leaves and you continue your journey alone in various other steam / hot / dry tubs / rooms. It ends with a decent massage with the girl coming back. She then finishes you off with a BJ. It was nice, especially after all that playing we had before, but it was too mechanical to my taste. After that, took a shower, got dressed and left. Forgot to mention. There were what looked like teenager boys, that worked there. They were very kind and helpful and basically are the ones leading to each room, but was a bit awkward. It was middle afternoon, and I was the only customer there. I believe that during peak time you would be sharing all the facilities (except the final massage room), with a bunch of other people.

Next day I meet this other girl Tinder girl. We go out for drinks, dinner. We want to hit some club but as we walk there, we start making out in a small alley. She was moaning like crazy and I'm like, this sounds promising! We make out for a good 30 minutes and it reaches a point where I'm actually liking and sucking on her nipples, in that same back alley. She didn't want to come back to my hotel at first, with the same kind of blabla the other Tinder girl gave me. I was like, here we go again. After more making out, I said, OK then I'm going home. We grab a taxi and I tell her that I'll drop her off. She then tells me, let's just go to your hotel. Sweet! Once back at the hotel, the same moaning continues and I'm like, man this is going to be wild! She starts telling me crazy stuff like "you like my boobs? You want to lick my boobs?" Hell yea and more! Turns out once serious things started, she turned into another dead-fish and that's when it got super boring. In any case, was still happy, she was a freebie (if you exclude the fact that I did pay for the diner and the drinks).

After that, headed to Sapa where I can say, there is basically no action. There's a lot of construction going on, I think mostly Chinese funded. I'm sure there will be more action happening in the future, as more tourists flock into the area, but as in my case, you don't really come to Sapa for that, so I didn't care.

In conclusion, I'd say the mongering scene in Danang and Hanoi is pretty dead. You really need to do some research. Also I "kind of" got lucky with some freebie action but oh boy, that is time consuming. And the girls are definitely not easy to bring back home. It's easy matching and chatting, eventually meeting, but more than that (if you're only on a short trip), it will be difficult. As I like the whole seduction game thing, I don't mind, but it's not for everyone.

Went to Manila after that (a lot more action), will report on it in the Manila forum soon.

[QUOTE=Squashed;2204608]Here's my few words on a trip I had in Vietnam few months ago.

Arrived in DaNang for a couple of days, then went to Hanoi then Sapa.

Danang.

Prior to arriving in DaNang, had some Tinder action and chatted with this funny Viet girl. We got along and she even picked me up at the airport. Short hair, tattoos, not as attractive as on the pictures but fun.

She was going to a party with some friends at a bar and I joined. Few hours later, trashed, she takes me out for dinner and picks up the bill: her way to welcome me in DaNang!

We headed to my hotel to finish off the night, but she was a little chubby and not quite to my taste. She was also playing the dead-fish. I did a bit of touching here and there and then just decided to sleep.

Next day decided to try out Bamboo Green. Was mid afternoon. Premises are pretty old. Small cost (can't remember) for massage. Brought to a room with shower where I'm told to wait. Comes in I'd say some 35+ woman, thin but ugly. Tells me to strip and take a shower. After the shower I hop on the massage table and she starts her massage. Was pretty decent and eventually offers me a BJ for 500 K. I would have gladly accepted but she was just too damn scary. I then felt sorry for her and tipped her 100 and then left.

Hanoi..[/QUOTE]Very nice report, thank you. It mirrors my experience with civilians in HCMC. I like the courting game too so I look forward to your report on Manila as I am seriously considering my next destination. I found the semi pros to be best bet in HCMC. Bar girls, massage girls, KTV girls but you also need time to find out if services are available for each individual girl. Peace out, TC.

1. Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by. Room, 700 k, girl tip 700 k / girl. Room was nice, large, comfy and luxurious (hence the price tag).

- First time, had 2 girls, total damage 2100 vnd. The hot one wasn't very enthusiastic but the second one was crazy horny. The massage wasn't bad either and the session lasted fulll 90 minutes. Usually 1 shot / girl.

- Second time, had a single girl but she straight upfront told me she was tired and I was last customer for the day. Session was ok-ish but she did give me Nuru massage for 70 bucks!

2. Went to windy Vip this time. 2 girls, Room 600 k, girl tip 500 k / girl, total damage 1600 kvnd. Man the girls are hot and insane. Imaging this: One giving you a hot-milk BJ with her other hand on your butt, the other sucking your nipples while I was sucking hers. Both my hands were in each of their panties. I did not last very long. LOL.

But the rooms were shaby, massage was non-existent and once I had my 2 shots within 50 ish minutes, out the door. May repeat.

So between these at least, if you prefer a nicer ambience and better massage, Rose is the place. If you want to get blown, Windy.

3. Wechat / Zalos. Zalos came to be a dead end. Wechat, found a few mongers, and a couple of independent girls. Haggled down to 500/ shot or 1500 overnight. The girl who agreed turned out to be a no-show. Second was. Wasn't big enough to catch my taste. Anyways, worth it if you have the dedication.

4. [URL]theindia.com[/URL] , still need to try. Msged a couple of them but got no response back. Maybe I am doing something wrong.

What is [URL]theindia.com[/URL]? Redirects to another page?

[QUOTE=RaviJambua;2209372]1. Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by. Room, 700 k, girl tip 700 k / girl. Room was nice, large, comfy and luxurious (hence the price tag).

- First time, had 2 girls, total damage 2100 vnd. The hot one wasn't very enthusiastic but the second one was crazy horny. The massage wasn't bad either and the session lasted fulll 90 minutes. Usually 1 shot / girl.

- Second time, had a single girl but she straight upfront told me she was tired and I was last customer for the day. Session was ok-ish but she did give me Nuru massage for 70 bucks!

2. Went to windy Vip this time. 2 girls, Room 600 k, girl tip 500 k / girl, total damage 1600 kvnd. Man the girls are hot and insane. Imaging this: One giving you a hot-milk BJ with her other hand on your butt, the other sucking your nipples while I was sucking hers. Both my hands were in each of their panties. I did not last very long. LOL..[/QUOTE]

Last year Nov, went to Rose Spa, near Intercon since it was close by.

Can you provide the address for Rose Spa near the Intercon?

Walking to my hotel last night in the Old Quarter a moto driver stopped and asked if I wanted a pretty girl, showing me all these glamorous photos on his cell. As I was walking away rejecting his offer, he convinced me "just to look". So I hopped on to do some are&the. Haha!. I guess against my better judgment. The ride was short and we arrived at this place with sign "Lady Massage". Hmmm. Interesting!

Anyway, walking in, I was led to a very small room where four girls were sitting waiting for customers. One or two looked pretty. But the place was a mess. I said "thanks" and walked out.

Oh yeah on the way in, there were three "burly" guys sitting. Must be the enforcers. The fee was 1000 K VD, but I am sure there would be many "extra payments" for standard services that the enforcers would squeeze out of you if you objected.

I am still trying to figure out the area around Hanoi Old Quarters and how to find "safe" talent. I sure miss the bars of BKK or MNL where you can free to select.

I hear in HCM it is much easier to find girls. Well back to some are&the to see what I can come up with here in Hanoi Old Quarter.

Stay safe!

I tried one of those websites offering girls to come to meet you at local hotel. Have never tried this so why not. Used the checkerviet site and set and appointment to meet a girl. Did not want to for the low cost, so went bit higher. I got to the hotel and got a room for short time. Sent a tx message to girl advising the room number.

Well to make the long story short, this was really a "slam bang. Thank you ma'am" type of event.

Once the deed was done, she was dressed and gone in a flash. It was okay but not something I will again repeat.

Having enjoyed the girls in Sao Paulo, Prague, Singapore, Manila, Shanghai, Hong Kong, Jakarta and many other places, I must in summary state that Hanoi is not the best place to punt.

I am sure I did many things here not right in the short time I am here, but the two girls I did have, one overnight from KTV and the second ST from one of the internet site I met in hotel, were very mechanical and just wanted the VD. Nothing more. Jakarta is better and so is Manila and Shanghai. In the end the game here is not the best.

Once again, I must state that I did not do things correctly and I definitely overpaid!! Lesson for the future. I am sure others had better luck and more fun.

Tuesday I fly to the Philippines. Girls really take care of you there!!

To all. Stay safe!

Firebird.

Hey guys,

I am back.

It really depends on each girl, but typically easy. So my routine for ZALO / WECHAT is search in Look around, see the girls I like, add her, chat with her for a bit, if she answer promptly it means she is interested. Then I ask for facebook or / and phone number. Facebook is to check for more photos, cause sometimes they post only 1-2 best photo on Zalo / WC and it does not show clearly. And if I really like her I will call to talk more, when talking on the phone I can hear the voice / accent and get a feel of where she is from, work, school. Then if I feel she likes me too, I will setup a date. It could be at a bar, or at bubble tea shop, or coffee, depends on what they like.

Upon meeting, if I like what I see, I can move to dinner or even hotel right away. Depends on situation.

Or some times I have to wait until second or 3rd date to bring her to hotel.

My limit is 3 dates. If it is not going anywhere. I will quit.

And these girls I don't pay them anything except foods, drinks, hotels.


[QUOTE=TakingChances;2183303]Thank you for sharing. A couple of questions 1. How long would you say it takes to get these wechat girls to bed (1 date, 3 dates, etc)? 2. Do you have to pretend you are interested in a long term relationship (boyfriend / girlfriend)? (Personally, I just cannot misrepresent myself in these situations).

I will be in Vietnam for 2 weeks and plan to try Zalo, Wechat and Tinder. Additionally, I would like to try a legit massage place and get a date with the girl. I have been RTFF but have not seen stories on this. Any recommendations for a massage parlor with the intent to get the girl on a date?

On another, it would be great to hook up in Vietnam, when it is closer to my trip I will PM you and AddisonVo. Best,

TC.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Any chances to find in the city (places / clubs or online), super girls with good service (no rush like the cheaper ones), even paying them 1.500 k - 2. 000 k and over vnd?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Emzchi;2213265]Hi guys,

Any chances to find in the city (places / clubs or online), super girls with good service (no rush like the cheaper ones), even paying them 1.500 k - 2. 000 k and over vnd?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Do not WASTE your money. I had the same thought to go for "you get what you pay for!" - that is absolute BS.

As I wrote in previous post. I used the checkerviet site and set and appointment to meet a girl. Fee was VD2000 - one shot. I thought too that it would be nice and pleasant. Did not want to for the low cost, so went bit higher. I got to the hotel and got a room for short time. Sent a tx message to girl advising the room number.

Well to make the long story short, this was really a "slam bang. Thank you ma'am" type of event. She was all business! Get it done fast and quick and she was out of there like lightning!!

Once the deed was done, she was dressed and gone in a flash. It was okay but not something I will again repeat.

Go for the 300 or 400. You will get the SAME performance and save your money. Just my suggestion for you.

Hi David Cohen / guys.

I have enjoyed reading your informative posts.

I was in haiphong for a night, few weeks ago on the way Halong bay.

I met motor guy near my hotel and he said he could bring me 15 minutes to a place where I can get 1 HR 2 shots w a girl. No charge for the ride, just pay him 500 k after the deed.

As I was alone and it was 7 pm I did not go w him for fear of scam and my safety.

Could you advise whether there are such brothels in Haiphong? He said its not the beach area. I m making another trip next week and appreciate any info.

[QUOTE=Firebird;2213468]Do not WASTE your money. I had the same thought to go for "you get what you pay for!" - that is absolute BS.

As I wrote in previous post. I used the checkerviet site and set and appointment to meet a girl. Fee was VD2000 - one shot. I thought too that it would be nice and pleasant. Did not want to for the low cost, so went bit higher. I got to the hotel and got a room for short time. Sent a tx message to girl advising the room number.

Well to make the long story short, this was really a "slam bang. Thank you ma'am" type of event. She was all business! Get it done fast and quick and she was out of there like lightning!!

Once the deed was done, she was dressed and gone in a flash. It was okay but not something I will again repeat.

Go for the 300 or 400. You will get the SAME performance and save your money. Just my suggestion for you.[/QUOTE]Exactly, customer service is not good in Vietnam in general (socialist). They have a long way to catch up with the capitalist in term of customer service.

The only way to get a GFE is to try to use: wechat, zalo, tinder (more popular now) and girls on tinder are tend to speak English and like foreigner too.

[QUOTE=AsianLoverOz;2197115]My experience in Hanoi on wechat in particular is completely different to Saigon.

1) There were actually minimal girls openly advertising on wechat.

2) The very very few obvious ones on Zalo seem to get shutdown within 24 hrs.

I never received any "cold calls" from Wechat. Unlike Saigon where I was bombarded with dozens of contact requests every day.

Despite that, I did have some success.

There was one average looking lady that was advertising massage on wechat and she responded positively with photos of 4 ladies that could come to the hotel for massage. I mentioned I was in 5 star hotel and she said it would be no problem.

Of the 4 photos, only 1 was sort of interesting so I gave it a shot. Massage price was 800 K for 90 mins. It was during the day and I had no idea what would happen with the hotel, being a luxury hotel in the French Qtr..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, would it be possible to share the WeChat contact, thanks.

[QUOTE=Datiao;2213690]Hi David Cohen / guys.

I have enjoyed reading your informative posts.

I was in haiphong for a night, few weeks ago on the way Halong bay.

I met motor guy near my hotel and he said he could bring me 15 minutes to a place where I can get 1 HR 2 shots w a girl. No charge for the ride, just pay him 500 k after the deed.

As I was alone and it was 7 pm I did not go w him for fear of scam and my safety.

Could you advise whether there are such brothels in Haiphong? He said its not the beach area. I m making another trip next week and appreciate any info.[/QUOTE]Smart move! 15 minute ride could turn to 20-25 minutes and be exposed to unsafe conditions.

I too was offered to take a ride recently "few minutes" away in Hanoi. The guy looked okay and I took a chance.

The place I was brought to was dirty and there were several big guys in the place which most probably would have made it uncomfortable for me.

I immediately left. When you cannot control the situation nor are you familiar with the place, the risk is high. IMHO!

New massage place was just opened in Hanoi. Looking good if anyone wants to try. They are having 50% discount until the end of month.

[URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/vip-neko-massage-29-de-la-thanh-chat-luong-dang-cap-khai-truong-50-off.1185286/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2214214]New massage place was just opened in Hanoi. Looking good if anyone wants to try. They are having 50% discount until the end of month.

[URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/vip-neko-massage-29-de-la-thanh-chat-luong-dang-cap-khai-truong-50-off.1185286/[/URL][/QUOTE]Is the discount 50% of the list price.

600 k = 300 k?

[QUOTE=TheGreenHorn;2214654]Is the discount 50% of the list price.

600 k = 300 k?[/QUOTE]So went there today at 4 pm so it was quiet.

The place is brand new (1-2 weeks).

Came in sat down. Mama asked me for type of girl I liked, so said beautiful face and skinny. To be fair, I speak fluently Vietnamese so it helped. Quoted Thiendia To get 50% off.

Off we went and they gave me a nice room. It has a mirror on top so you can see all the action.

The girl was a 9 in face, 9 body with a nice tattoo on her ass.

She washed me all over very well. Then proceeded to a quick massage. Then she put nuru gel on me and used her boobs to massage me. Then she started to use her tongue on me. Very sensual, great stuff. Then turned me over and started a BBBJ.

I fingered her, came on her body and we cuddled. She gave me a head massage.

Super GFE. Her name is Yen.

Tipped her 1.5 m which is more than required but we did not discuss money upfront and it was a really great experience so I went for it.

Paid 525 k for the room. This 900 k room + 100 k for nuru gel + 50% discount.

Having a 5 hour layover in Hanoi. Are there any similar spas as described below closer to the airport. Also any good food options close by?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=TheGreenHorn;2214654]Is the discount 50% of the list price.

600 k = 300 k?[/QUOTE]Yes it is, was there last week. Everything is new, and was a great experience.

Ticket 300 k and tipped 600 k including massage, sauna, Nuru, and BBBJ.

[QUOTE=TheGreenHorn;2215003]So went there today at 4 pm so it was quiet.

The place is brand new (1-2 weeks).

Came in sat down. Mama asked me for type of girl I liked, so said beautiful face and skinny. To be fair, I speak fluently Vietnamese so it helped. Quoted Thiendia To get 50% off.

Off we went and they gave me a nice room. It has a mirror on top so you can see all the action.

The girl was a 9 in face, 9 body with a nice tattoo on her ass.

She washed me all over very well. Then proceeded to a quick massage. Then she put nuru gel on me and used her boobs to massage me. Then she started to use her tongue on me. Very sensual, great stuff. Then turned me over and started a BBBJ..[/QUOTE]Nice review, I am very impressed with their setup, clean and smell good with lemon grass oil.

Also like the mirror on the ceiling, its fun to watch the girl slide massage you and giving you head.

I talked to the manager and Was told: Yen and Ngoc Anh provided GFE and very skilled.

If you are into young girls like 20's then they have Diem, My and My Anh.

I only checked Diem and was great as well.

[QUOTE=Siriuscom;2215177]Having a 5 hour layover in Hanoi. Are there any similar spas as described below closer to the airport. Also any good food options close by?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]5 HR layover is very tight. Especially if you flight international. I would suggest stay at the airport and chill.

But if you still wants to goes out. And have fun, the airport is like 30-40 min to city centre by taxi (around 500 K round trip), so you going to need around 90 min for the round trip.

Then you have about 2-3 HR. So you could visit some of the massage nuru, BBBJ places to relax and shower. About 1000 k to 2000 k depends on where you go.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2215435]5 HR layover is very tight. Especially if you flight international. I would suggest stay at the airport and chill.

But if you still wants to goes out. And have fun, the airport is like 30-40 min to city centre by taxi (around 500 K round trip), so you going to need around 90 min for the round trip.

Then you have about 2-3 HR. So you could visit some of the massage nuru, BBBJ places to relax and shower. About 1000 k to 2000 k depends on where you go.[/QUOTE]Thanks David. I will be on a connecting flight from China so my luggage will be checked already and I will have my boarding pass. That will help. Whats one of the nuru BBBJ places that's pretty close 30-40 min from the airport? Feel free to PM. Thanks.

Maybe it almost makes more sense to take a room at the airport hotel, and get some to come over for massage ++.

What's the best website for outcall girls?

[QUOTE=SiriusCom;2216277]Maybe it almost makes more sense to take a room at the airport hotel, and get some to come over for massage ++.

What's the best website for outcall girls?[/QUOTE]Out call is not very popular in vietnam for local people. Most people just dine in.

It is even harder because Airport is far from city centre.

[QUOTE=SiriusCom;2216271]Thanks David. I will be on a connecting flight from China so my luggage will be checked already and I will have my boarding pass. That will help. Whats one of the nuru BBBJ places that's pretty close 30-40 min from the airport? Feel free to PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]The massage The GreenHorn checked out couple days ago is new and pretty decent.

Hi,

I am currently residing in Japan and the passport visa is until early September or so. Thus, I am choosing the next place to reside for the next 2 months. Possibly 3 months.

I resided in Hanoi a few years ago and had a sweet Vietnamese GF. If she had been more slender and had perkier breasts, I maybe would have married her.

Anyway, she was most definitely the best part about Hanoi. By far!

So. Although I do prefer lighter skinned northern Viet girls so far, and I like some things about the area around the Cathedral and lake. I still am not sure if I want to risk moving to Hanoi again. Or honestly anywhere in Vietnam.

Basically, resided in Danang last winter and that was generally a horrible place. And so were the women. Bleh. Was so horrible there!

Some people here seem to recommend Saigon. In Saigon there was some fun I remember, such as the hot tocs. Yet there was also some f'ing horrible Korean BS in Saigon. F'ing jealous Korean cockblockers and "Koreans only" brothels. In Vietnam. No Viet guys allowed. Wtf?

Also there were maybe too many Western tourists in Saigon so it felt a little too similar to Bangkok occasionally. And there was a little bit of that "[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] Aussie guys and their naive overspending over tipping cuck White guy counterparts have ruined this place a little already" sort of feeling in Saigon. Generally avoid SE Asia partially because Aussie guys seem to have ruined some of it a little.

I am thankful for what "David Cohen" posted and I have been wanting to enjoy some girls in Hai Phong and some of the thiendia girls.

That said, I also have a long term visa for China and know the girl scene there pretty nicely. Although the China p2 p scene was maybe more abundantly easy a few years ago.

So anyway, China is an option, Hanoi is, Saigon is, and so is the phillippines. Although the "women" I saw in the "score birds" Angeles City pool party videos are not My type. At all. In any way whatsoever.

To note, I resided in Pattaya for a month and only remember seeing 1 or 2 "professional" girls there that I would have considered having sex with. I actually had a girl (maybe she was) with nice breasts nude in the bed and I skipped it because wasn't sure she hadn't been a boy before.

Basically I like slender light-skin girls (that have definitely always been girls) and I like residing in a very, very clean hotel or apartment or house in an area that is comfortably safe.

There are some places in China like that. Although making sure the cleaners do things properly has sometimes been a hassle.

I imagine there are some places similar to a China girls sex barbershop at a lower price in or near Hanoi.

Basically I would truly appreciate some great advice on the best place to move where there are many FS with BBBJ options with fun, pretty 18-22 girls for Hai Phong Do Son prices or at least thiendia prices. While also having a nice clean hotel room with a window and fast Internet for 20 US Dollars per night or lower.

Partially considering hanoi and saigon now because of that Grab app. I explored Hanoi by cab a few years ago though and that place was relatively barren regarding fun girl shops.

Where is best to move to this autumn on a 1000 US Dollar monthly budget?

Thanks in advance!

To clarify, was simply saying some horrible Aussie guys (not all Aussie guys) had seemingly made the attitudes of locals in some parts of se asia less pleasant than if there hadn't been some horrible aussie guys in those places before.

AKA: I sometimes wish that aussie guys weren't White, because many seemingly haven't behaved "White" enough in the civilized ways in some places in se asia.

Sorry, Sex God you won't find exactly what you are looking for.

If you want nice lady and clean, expect to pay somewhere $100/ HR.

For girls that are 10 $-20 $ service not good, and location is not the best.

Ahh, good old Hanoi! My old stomping grounds of years gone by. I'll be headed there for two weeks early next month, with a goal of having a different woman each night. Now, I know what you're thinking, "wtf, it's Hanoi not Bangkok!" But with a little bit of knowledge, it's no problem. I really miss writing reports of my adventures and meeting up with people from these forums to go exploring. So expect some detailed reports coming soon.

Hi,

I'm sorry if this is a noob question but browsing the forum just left me very confused. I'm planning a trip to Cambodia and Vietnam next week for a few weeks. And I just wanted to find out what the scene is like. Where one should go, places to stay, etc.

I'm thinking Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. Is there any place else I should think of?

I know asking for a lot, but I hope ya'll don't mind.

[QUOTE=TheGreenHorn;2215003]So went there today at 4 pm so it was quiet.

The place is brand new (1-2 weeks).

Came in sat down. Mama asked me for type of girl I liked, so said beautiful face and skinny. To be fair, I speak fluently Vietnamese so it helped. Quoted Thiendia To get 50% off.

Off we went and they gave me a nice room. It has a mirror on top so you can see all the action.

The girl was a 9 in face, 9 body with a nice tattoo on her ass.

She washed me all over very well. Then proceeded to a quick massage. Then she put nuru gel on me and used her boobs to massage me. Then she started to use her tongue on me. Very sensual, great stuff. Then turned me over and started a BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I am a little confused, so the normal price is around 950 k, and will need extra tips?

Right.

[QUOTE=Smartsu;2229071]Hi,

I am a little confused, so the normal price is around 950 k, and will need extra tips?

Right.[/QUOTE]No try reading again but the answer is the entry price is 600 of which he got a discount of 300 then he tipped the girl 600 hence the 900 total price as you prob won't be able to get the discount off entry you will be paying 600+600 = 1.2 milk.

Are there a lot of Hanoi and Hai phong and do son area Viet girls with lighter skin (more northern Chinese style)?

I like pink pussies, although light tan labia is alright.

Simply don't like hairy pastrami pussies.

My GF in Hanoi thankfully had lighter skin and a wonderful little pink pussy. Is that fairly common in Hanoi and Hai phong and do son?

Asking before buying a ticket today. China is the other main option.

Thanks in advance!

(No troll answers).

The scene is great. No there is no gogo bars like in thailand. Read back a few pages the other parts of the forum and all the answers will be there.

[QUOTE=Pilkey;2227076]Hi,

I'm sorry if this is a noob question but browsing the forum just left me very confused. I'm planning a trip to Cambodia and Vietnam next week for a few weeks. And I just wanted to find out what the scene is like. Where one should go, places to stay, etc.

I'm thinking Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. Is there any place else I should think of?

I know asking for a lot, but I hope ya'll don't mind.[/QUOTE].

I'm not alone this trip so have limited opportunities, must all be on premises.

Snuck out to a tac toc in beùI thị xuân, nearly all the way up the end near Vincom Tower.

A Viet guy walked in just before me and scored a sexy little thing. I got a 30 year old, 6/10 but she could such a golf ball thru a garden hose.

300+300.

Can anyone recommend the best on premises full service with a bunch of sexy early 20's hotties.

People here recommend Hanoi or Shanghai for a young handsome White male?

Aside from rent prices and winter weather, Shanghai seemingly has the lead by far obviously. Still though, a good hotel seems to maybe be about 600 US dollars monthly near the lake in Hanoi. So better to choose Shanghai if I prefer lighter skinned pussy?

Prefer not needing to pay girls obviously, so the place with easier day and night "game" girls is best.

At the Taipei airport deciding where to fly to. My "compass" points toward pretty Chinese girls, because My compass has very happy memories of pretty Chinese girls. Sadly the glass showrooms in many neighborhoods in China aren't as common as before. And has been a little more challenging to find the best girls at the best prices in China the past few trips.

Are there many light skinned ethnically Chinese girls in Hanoi and do son area?

Thanks in advance for a quick and truly known answer.

Seems like there were some in Hanoi before. But walked across the border from China in the north once and the quality of the girls there was not My style. Darker and chubby and so on.

So far have basically crossed Chiangmai off the possible places to move list. After saw badoo. The Phils also. And have a bad memory of a kinda seemingly not-completely human woman in Saigon. So ha noi and north seems safer.

[QUOTE=SexGod;2234645]At the Taipei airport deciding where to fly to. My "compass" points toward pretty Chinese girls, because My compass has very happy memories of pretty Chinese girls. Sadly the glass showrooms in many neighborhoods in China aren't as common as before. And has been a little more challenging to find the best girls at the best prices in China the past few trips.

Are there many light skinned ethnically Chinese girls in Hanoi and do son area?

Thanks in advance for a quick and truly known answer.

Seems like there were some in Hanoi before. But walked across the border from China in the north once and the quality of the girls there was not My style. Darker and chubby and so on.

So far have basically crossed Chiangmai off the possible places to move list. After saw badoo. The Phils also. And have a bad memory of a kinda seemingly not-completely human woman in Saigon. So ha noi and north seems safer.[/QUOTE]If you like light skinned girls, China has more of them.

But I think Vietnamese girls are more beautiful, some are light skinned, but not as light as Chinese though.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2235286]If you like light skinned girls, China has more of them.

But I think Vietnamese girls are more beautiful, some are light skinned, but not as light as Chinese though.[/QUOTE]Flew to Xiamen. Still deciding if it's worth staying in Xiamen. Some things seem better than in some other cities in China. Yet having easy access to pretty girls that are affordable is much, much, much more important to me than some other aspects of choosing a place to reside the next few months.

Went to a mall yesterday and met a bunch of girls, although only one was borderline in my bed yesterday night. Then today she said she has a BF. BS.

So necessary to have beautiful and affordable girls for BBBJ and sex, because otherwise pussy gets used for manipulation of males.

And honestly. Some pussies look similar to monsters. Why the f pay more than 300,000 vnd to put a beautiful dick in some of these pussies?

That equivilant in other currencies should be maximum standard rate around the World for a BBBJ and FS with a beautiful girl.

Anyway, maybe go to Hanoi and do son and other beach towns to explore next month.

I like the slender hour glass type Viet girls with perky breasts. Also prefer light skin though. Hmmmm.

Any advice or recommendations?

[QUOTE=SexGod;2236424]Flew to Xiamen. Still deciding if it's worth staying in Xiamen. Some things seem better than in some other cities in China. Yet having easy access to pretty girls that are affordable is much, much, much more important to me than some other aspects of choosing a place to reside the next few months.

Went to a mall yesterday and met a bunch of girls, although only one was borderline in my bed yesterday night. Then today she said she has a BF. BS.

So necessary to have beautiful and affordable girls for BBBJ and sex, because otherwise pussy gets used for manipulation of males.

And honestly. Some pussies look similar to monsters. Why the f pay more than 300,000 vnd to put a beautiful dick in some of these pussies?

That equivilant in other currencies should be maximum standard rate around the World for a BBBJ and FS with a beautiful girl.

Anyway, maybe go to Hanoi and do son and other beach towns to explore next month.

I like the slender hour glass type Viet girls with perky breasts. Also prefer light skin though. Hmmmm.

Any advice or recommendations?[/QUOTE]With all due respect, you are asking for too much but you want to pay too little.

Good luck and enjoy your journey!

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2236734]With all due respect, you are asking for too much but you want to pay too little.

Good luck and enjoy your journey![/QUOTE]Are there some clean new or new-ish hotels in do son or quat lam or a similar fun beach town near Hanoi for around 450,000 vnd per night? Looking at moving there for a month or so.

Largely because China has not been as fun as the possibly delusional and possibly somewhat dated memories I have of the most beautiful Chinese girls I have been with. Free "normal" dating and otherwise.

Anyway, basically want to enjoy at least one more fun month of choosing any pretty girl in sight and bringing her right to bed.

My body is very, very, very clean so no worries about any danger to the scene there.

Maybe get on a plane later this week or next week if I know there are some nice clean hotels in that price range.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2236734]With all due respect, you are asking for too much but you want to pay too little.

Good luck and enjoy your journey![/QUOTE]Also, if read my post thoroughly, I said it should be that price or lower "around the World". Because women have intentionally been trying to use pussy to scam and manipulate males too much.

Remember to not go into that completely ridiculous, yet humorously common Asian guy mode of trying to show off by paying ridiculously overpriced prices for things to impress people. That is a common Asian guy pitfall in Asia, although not as much outside of Asia obviously.

Anything that has become more abundant, such as girls and pussy, should actually always cost less than it did before actually. Prices should go down, if anything. That is simple economics.

And never ever empower a pussy. Keep those prices down and those pussies subjugated or otherwise risk being subjugated by them.

Hello everyone,

I just touched down in Hanoi and I will be here for a while.

Can anyone recommend any hot tocs (BJ bars) here in the 400 range? Is there anything like Saigon's NPK here?

Thanks in advance.

Beast.

Well, I know many people think that hanoi is a mongering desert. Me, not into hookers really, so when my former "regular girl" decided to get odd, I decided that I would try some new tactics to find regular girls.

First BADOO. I'm not too thrilled with Tinder, but Badoo resulted in a contact within a couple of hours. A MILF (I like those) very cute face and nice body, divorced and educated (I like that). We video chat to check each other out, and will have dinner tomorow night. Let's see, but she seems quite small and sexy on video.

Then. We Chat, the search function mostly turns up hookers (I do love to play with them when they say "I like money" I say "I like to eat pussy and fuck pussy and ass", that is generally the end of them). Found an office girl, early 30's, a bit chunky, speaks good English. We met for coffee and within 10 minutes she was telling me how great my eyes are, leaning over to get our faces closer, etc. I wasn't up for going back to the hotel, but she made it clear that next time, fucking is on the table. We will see.

So, as long as I was around Hoa Kiem lake, I took in the Sunday sites. Was listening to a bunch of teens sing and play guitar when some woman tried to get through to take a picture. I stepped aside and gave her my up front spot. After the picture, she started a long chat with me, maybe late 20's, early 30's. With her hair up, she was cute, but then she put it down and wow, very pretty lady. We talked, exchanged pics and I met her 7 year old boy who was with her cousins there. We set up a date for later this week and she is sending me kissy icons already. She has a very pretty face and nice body, speaks good english, educated with a good job. This one may be a real hit (I can't wait to get those panties off hahaha).

In fact ALL have good jobs, so no financial outlay for me!

I'll keep all informed. I have my fingers crossed for the 3rd one (first) and then maybe #2 (cause I think she will be aggressive in bed, gave me a big hug in public when I left her).

If you want hookers they are here but well. Not for me.

GG.

[QUOTE=Beast415;2238141]Hello everyone,

I just touched down in Hanoi and I will be here for a while.

Can anyone recommend any hot tocs (BJ bars) here in the 400 range? Is there anything like Saigon's NPK here?

Thanks in advance.

Beast.[/QUOTE]There are some massage parlor (BJ bar really) that is cheap about 200 K - 400 K, but the quality is not great and not clean. You can check the Tam Trinh st (along the Kim Nguu river), total of 10 shops on that st.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2238680]Well, I know many people think that hanoi is a mongering desert. Me, not into hookers really, so when my former "regular girl" decided to get odd, I decided that I would try some new tactics to find regular girls.

First BADOO. I'm not too thrilled with Tinder, but Badoo resulted in a contact within a couple of hours. A MILF (I like those) very cute face and nice body, divorced and educated (I like that). We video chat to check each other out, and will have dinner tomorow night. Let's see, but she seems quite small and sexy on video.

Then. We Chat, the search function mostly turns up hookers (I do love to play with them when they say "I like money" I say "I like to eat pussy and fuck pussy and ass", that is generally the end of them). Found an office girl, early 30's, a bit chunky, speaks good English. We met for coffee and within 10 minutes she was telling me how great my eyes are, leaning over to get our faces closer, etc. I wasn't up for going back to the hotel, but she made it clear that next time, fucking is on the table. We will see.

So, as long as I was around Hoa Kiem lake, I took in the Sunday sites. Was listening to a bunch of teens sing and play guitar when some woman tried to get through to take a picture. I stepped aside and gave her my up front spot. After the picture, she started a long chat with me, maybe late 20's, early 30's. With her hair up, she was cute, but then she put it down and wow, very pretty lady. We talked, exchanged pics and I met her 7 year old boy who was with her cousins there. We set up a date for later this week and she is sending me kissy icons already. She has a very pretty face and nice body, speaks good english, educated with a good job. This one may be a real hit (I can't wait to get those panties off hahaha).

In fact ALL have good jobs, so no financial outlay for me!

I'll keep all informed. I have my fingers crossed for the 3rd one (first) and then maybe #2 (cause I think she will be aggressive in bed, gave me a big hug in public when I left her).

If you want hookers they are here but well. Not for me.

GG.[/QUOTE]Yeah, if you have willing to spend sometimes to talk and date, you going to have a lot of fun and cost is minial. Just casual bubble tea date, hot pot dinner date and you can fuck lot of them the first of second date easily.

I met the first girl in my report below, she is a MILF with a very tight body and cute face. Business woman, divorced. We met for dinner, it was great, lots of smiles and eye contact and talk. I invited her up to my room and then the shyness began. We got upstairs and it was obvious this was going nowhere. SO after 15 minutes I said "probably time for you to go home. ".

I walked her to her GRAB car, and she gave me a hug and quick kiss on lips and into the car. I walked back to my hotel and then the text messages started from her. SO. I suggested she tell the driver to turn around and bring her back. Didn't happen. More chatting when she got home. Finally I said "if you are so interested in me, do something crazy. Get a ride and come back" and her response was "wait for me I will come to you. ".

Needless to say, in about 30 minutes she is back at hotel. And 10 minutes later, we were in bed. She is clearly a businesswoman, not shy in her job, not shy in public until things get more serious, but in bed, wow. She was fun. We slept afterward and round 2 in the AM. She told me she takes birth control pills so I could go "au natural" and unload deep inside of her. I do love real girls!

Tonite I meet the girl that I had met at Hoa Kiem lake. She has a very nice body and great smile and face. So we will see.

GG.

Well, this night didn't start out so good. The big rain made girl #2 late by 90 minutes. Turns out this gal has a bit of money. She has a huge SUV, her cousin is paid to do the driving, she owns 2 flats in Times City (vincom property) and has traveled to many places.

Her cousin drove us to dinner (I told her we could walk there in 10 minutes), we got there and she said "I don't eat a lot" so we ordered an entree and veggies and she devoured most of it on her own hahaha. She wanted to pay the bill, I couldn't let her do that. Sometimes during our meal I wondered if she was a bit "off" because she was laughing and carrying on about stuff I could not understand, but I decided that is her personality. I got invited to stay at her second place (with her mother), and told her I appreciated it but if I stay, I'd prefer to stay with her in her bed. She said OK.

Got a ride back to the hotel and she came up, some small talk, she wanted to try some of the black licorice I brought, didn't like it and then kissed me. We had a brief hugging and kissing session and she announced that she had not had sex for 6 years, and while she didn't miss it, she wants it again now. Can't stay tonite cause her kid is at grandma's and she needs to get him. But can she come back tomorrow night and sleep over. Well, I can't turn this down, so we will see.

She certainly has a hot little body hehehe. I still love regular girls!

Stay Tuned.

GG.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2238730]There are some massage parlor (BJ bar really) that is cheap about 200 K - 400 K, but the quality is not great and not clean. You can check the Tam Trinh st (along the Kim Nguu river), total of 10 shops on that st.[/QUOTE]I tried this street. I went to 5 places. Two were cheap but woman were probably 40's fat old. Two other places quoted 900 k and 950 k I didn't stay. 5 was 200 massage plus tip 200 HJ 400 BJ, this place I agreed to as I was fucking tired already. Paid 200 k went to room. Decent room, had ac and shower, chick came, started to massage, but its not a massage its like she's poking me with a stick, then she starts telling me I'm fat, she's fat for a Vietnamese hooker, after 10 minutes of this I tell her stop, I get dressed, and leave, if service will be like this I'm not going to pay more money for more shit service. Get dressed tell receptionist girl is no good and leave. I would not recommend anyone waste time in this area without information of possible better experienced provider.

Bare sex for sure feel great but please watch out for STD / HIV, it is more common in Vietnam than western countries.

[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2239429]I met the first girl in my report below, she is a MILF with a very tight body and cute face. Business woman, divorced. We met for dinner, it was great, lots of smiles and eye contact and talk. I invited her up to my room and then the shyness began. We got upstairs and it was obvious this was going nowhere. SO after 15 minutes I said "probably time for you to go home. ".

I walked her to her GRAB car, and she gave me a hug and quick kiss on lips and into the car. I walked back to my hotel and then the text messages started from her. SO. I suggested she tell the driver to turn around and bring her back. Didn't happen. More chatting when she got home. Finally I said "if you are so interested in me, do something crazy. Get a ride and come back" and her response was "wait for me I will come to you. ".

Needless to say, in about 30 minutes she is back at hotel. And 10 minutes later, we were in bed. She is clearly a businesswoman, not shy in her job, not shy in public until things get more serious, but in bed, wow. She was fun. We slept afterward and round 2 in the AM. She told me she takes birth control pills so I could go "au natural" and unload deep inside of her. I do love real girls!

Tonite I meet the girl that I had met at Hoa Kiem lake. She has a very nice body and great smile and face. So we will see.

GG.[/QUOTE]

Reporting live from Do Son. Staying at a Nha Nghi, for VND250 k per night inclusive of lunch & dinner. But the place have an unwritten rule. Guest must fire min 2 shots per day. Girls at VND300 k per shot.

[QUOTE=Scorpioangel;2241600]Reporting live from Do Son. Staying at a Nha Nghi, for VND250 k per night inclusive of lunch & dinner. But the place have an unwritten rule. Guest must fire min 2 shots per day. Girls at VND300 k per shot.[/QUOTE]My advice to you, never stay at the Nha Nghi (motel) where they have girls rigt there, because the rooms are often dirty, and you will have less selection as they will try to get you to fuck the girls they have to have more profit. Because if you choose girls from another motel, they have to pay them.

So next time, choose a Motel within 10 min walking distance to the Bo Xay Dung Area, so whenever you feel like to go in, just walk in to any Nha nghi, have a seat, have a beer, and choose, if you don't like move to next one. No hard feeling, and the price should only be 250 K. Tell them you come directly, and you know the price.

Gluck mate and be safe

[QUOTE=Scorpioangel;2241600]Reporting live from Do Son. Staying at a Nha Nghi, for VND250 k per night inclusive of lunch & dinner. But the place have an unwritten rule. Guest must fire min 2 shots per day. Girls at VND300 k per shot.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reporting! Please be physically kind to the girls and people there. (Don't pay higher than normal prices and don't tip like a naive idiot though. Thanks in advance for basically making sure the place stays nice for when I arrive.).

Also seems very, very advisable to listen to advice posted by Cohen on this.

A little shocking to see that the first post from a non-Viet visitor, that is seemingly there because of Cohen's reports, has already been paying more than Cohen stated the price is there.

Attention any and all visitors to Vietnam: Don't overpay! Morons have already ruined Thailand and Angeles city prices by overpaying and tipping like idiots there! There aren't many places that naive fools and idiot showoffs haven't basically ruined for themselves and the rest by overpaying and tipping in countries where there is no tipping culture among locals.

Remember that a person that overpays in Vietnam is viewed as a fool, a chump, and an easier target of more scams by locals in Vietnam. That is especially true of foreign fools that leave a large tip to show off or try to get a girl to like them by tipping her more money than any other guy would, which generally in Vietnam I don't think guys tip the girls at all generally. Maybe some rare guys do, but likely only a small percent of the main payment. Some places maybe there is a payment to the location and then a payment to the girl, but that is not a tip.

Again, don't pay more than prices recently posted on this forum. Especially from reports like those Cohen posted. (Unless haggling has truly been tried and the sellers didn't budge at all. Then maybe start walking away. Then look back. Haha. That is Asia).

Only budge on that a little if have already said "I know the price is 250,000 and not higher. " at least a couple of times and tried haggling to the point where none of the people are showing any flexibility and that is basically that. Then go to 260,000. Then maybe 275,000. 275,000.

Remember that this is mainly about preventing inflation in the long term. And actually the local viet customers don't want anybody to overpay either. Those guys want to keep the prices as low as possible.

Thus to maintain affordable prices and maintain friendliness from local customers, truly try to keep the prices at 250,000 there.

Likely coming there soon. Maybe next week. Sitting at a hotel in China now and Xiamen in China has been an example of how utterly bafflingly retarded a nation such as China can get when some overpay for years.

Some bubble tea shops in Ciamen sell a cup of bubble tea for almost 4 US dollars. In craphole China. Anyway, China is crashing and burning like a flaming turd now and most of the Chinese population obviously can't affordably buy that bubble tea and nor can most mainland Chinese afford the rents in China.

Ah. Such is the evils of Chinese oligarchy.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2242127]My advice to you, never stay at the Nha Nghi (motel) where they have girls rigt there, because the rooms are often dirty, and you will have less selection as they will try to get you to fuck the girls they have to have more profit. Because if you choose girls from another motel, they have to pay them.

So next time, choose a Motel within 10 min walking distance to the Bo Xay Dung Area, so whenever you feel like to go in, just walk in to any Nha nghi, have a seat, have a beer, and choose, if you don't like move to next one. No hard feeling, and the price should only be 250 K. Tell them you come directly, and you know the price.

Gluck mate and be safe[/QUOTE]Things have changed. There're now less girls and more male customers. At least on Sun & Mon when I'm there.

There're no girls at any Nha Nghi permanently. They're all delivered by bikes. I walked a few rounds in & out of the dead end of BXD area, can't even see one sitting inside any Nha Nghi.

And feedback from frequent customers with me at the same Nha Nghi confirmed that the price went up.

The girls never ask for any tip, and tell you to pay straight to the counter. When they walk out, they collect 150 k from the owner.

In fact, attractive girls are so rare now, there's this 1 girl, was F 4 straight times by 4 different men, as soon as she got down to the counter, she's taken again. She never gets to leave the building for 3 hours continuously.

[QUOTE=Scorpioangel;2244177]Things have changed. There're now less girls and more male customers. At least on Sun & Mon when I'm there.

There're no girls at any Nha Nghi permanently. They're all delivered by bikes. I walked a few rounds in & out of the dead end of BXD area, can't even see one sitting inside any Nha Nghi.

And feedback from frequent customers with me at the same Nha Nghi confirmed that the price went up.

The girls never ask for any tip, and tell you to pay straight to the counter. When they walk out, they collect 150 k from the owner.

In fact, attractive girls are so rare now, there's this 1 girl, was F 4 straight times by 4 different men, as soon as she got down to the counter, she's taken again. She never gets to leave the building for 3 hours continuously.[/QUOTE]Are you Vietnamese and speak the language because if not then you will be told the price that included the "commission" IE 300 k, regulars still pay 250 k, ie how did you get feedback. Also if you are a foreigner the BEST girls are never brought to you as they get requested by regulars by name and number etc, only the uglier girls will be brought to you as they are the ones not so busy. Further the best ones will refuse most foreigners, I have seen them refuse most Caucasians, All Indians and many east Asians eh Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. I stay there 24/7 for up to two weeks and I'm Vietnamese and I speak the language.

First off I find Hanoi info very sketchy and contradictory over the internet, so I'm going by provide as many facts as I can and hope this post doesn't get flagged for some commercial advertisement rule. So here we go.

November 2018 I go to Mai Spa on 47/5 Nguyen Khanh Toan. It's about a 20-25 min scooter ride from the old quarter. If you see the Lotte Plaza tower you are almost there. There are also a few other massage places around there too, such as Dich Blue Massage which is 3 buildings down and Sakura Spa maybe 2 blocks on 175 Bo Song. To get to Mai Spa you can ask your driver to take you to Highlands Coffee at the beginning of the block. There's a ton of construction in that area, so maybe tricky to find as Mai Spa is off the main road. It's on a small road parallel to the main one. It's like a frontage street.

So you walk in, they speak absolutely no English but they have an English menu (see my uploaded pic). Walk in and the guys will straight up say, 450 k + 500 k tip. You pay 450 k as you leave. 500 k goes to the girl in the room.

They take me upstairs and I use Google translate and ask the guy for a "skinny girl" and tipped him 100 k. He leads me to a room and I ask him about the window in the door but they all have it. I wait and within 5-10 minutes true to my request a tall skinny girl shows up maybe a 6/10 on my scale. She wasn't really doing it for me and seemed grumpy. I didn't have a good vibe so I took out Google translate and made up some bull crap about asking for English speaker and she said none. Then I asked her to change. Next girl shows up. Rounder face, all smiles, Asian see cups, kind of whimsical type of girl. She's a keeper. Thuy #17 age 25. Speaks absolutely no English but she's cheery and fun so no prob.

She preps the bath and starts sauna and takes off my clothes piece by piece. After 5 minutes can't get sauna working. No big deal, I don't care for it, so it's straight to the tub. Turns on the Jets and Washes me head to toe. Not super thorough like I had at Minh Minh Tam in HCMC but good enough. Plays a little with my little man. After bath we go to shower room and she rinses me off then tower dries me.

Table time. I hate how the towels smell. It's the stupid milk bath. She cracks my joints, punches and rubs. It's ok, but not the pro level massage at Minh Minh Tam. Next she leaves get some stuff, ties up her hair,. Takes off her clothes and goes shower. Nice full tits, perky nipples, almost pink. Hair pussy, one small tattoo on her back.

She comes back and exclaims action time comments in Viet. Its really cute and (BTW table is out of view from the window in my room) she's playful the whole time. She does the yogurt and milk licking and sucking all over your body which I didn't really care for. The towels have a milk smell that won't go away. Flip and she works on the ground and chest, licking sucking titillating. Turns me on. BBBJ, stroke, BBBJ strike, strokes while sucking my nips. I grab her boobs and finger her. Fake moans, explosion time. Relieved we smile and she wipes and cover me with towel. She goes to shower off. She comes back, leads me to shower by myself and she dresses. I dress and we try to chat a little. Fun little girl. I tip her and ask her for a pic. It's a huge no, I even offer to tip her and pull out money. It's still a no. Shame. I joke more and she takes me down. They ask me for 450 k. BTW forgot but she turning off half the lights but setup was funny in the room so she just left them on. I like it on to see her hot body.

The girl at the front desk speaks one of my languages and we chat like 5 - 10 minutes and she translates to the other guys. I get a card and writes the closing time of 1:30 am on the card. I should have asked her if I can get 2 girls but I forgot. Walk out and I visit the Nha Nghi's at the end of the street. I walk in and ask 2 of them if they have girls there. I use Google. They say no. But. Earlier. I saw a van pull up and drop me off 2 girls at one of them. So I call BS. He could probably arrange but doesn't want to deal with a non-native.

Would I repeat? Don't think so. That milk smell really bugs and the rooms are just so so. Value wise. 950 k total no haggling. That's $40 USD. That's a bargain compared to what spent in Tokyo the other day.

Anyways. I'll upload the menu, card and pics. So there are the facts.

Went Oasis weekday 1:30 pm. Across from Fortuna Hotel and two buildings from the US Embassy. The hotel is going through some major renovations, building a new tower, but the lobby is shabby. Take elevator to 5th floor, the spa floor. They will direct you without asking. They know why people are coming here. 600 k for #1 option (cheap massage), 700 for vip #2 90 min, and if I recall, it was 900 for 4 hands massage, 90 minutes.

I choose #2. They lead me to the room and goodness the place is a dump. I got their card. I asked them to write the hours. 10 am to 2 am.

I wait 5 minutes and 23 year old Nhi #85 shows up. OMG she's a 9/10 in a red dress and 3 inch heels. White smooth skin, skinny waist, such a pretty face and not even a mole. Petite. About 5 ft 1. Perfect for me. She is probably the hottest wg ever had. Speaks 0 English and we'll. She's kind of no personality. At Least she's not a smoker.

1. Undress myself.

2. Sauna while she preps.

[URL]3.Com[/URL]e out she puts exfoliating scrub all over you.

4. Sauna again.

5. Bath time. She cleans you head to toe. Plays a little the baby.

6. Dry massage. Kind of crappy but she does take her time and jump on top of you.

7. Now she asks. Kiss baby or boom boom? She wants over 2 mil. I really try to bargain with her but she won't budge at all. She was content to just walk away. I say yes then.

8. Clothes come off and OMG. So freaking hot. A-cup, tiny eraser nips. PINK nipples. Porcelain skin. Only a small tattoo.

9. BBBJ, she gets on top, sitting possible cradle. Fucking amazing spinner. Explosion.

10. She cleans up, makes horrible spitting throat noises the whole time.

11. I clean up by myself.

I ask her for a pic. It's a very big no. I get my wallet and I'm short. I'm 150-250 k short. I open and show her my wallet. She watches me fish around my pants and backpack. I actually wasn't sure if I had enough money but I knew I had around what she asked for. I have secret stash buried in my backpack in case I lose my wallet but I play the game. I open everything up she won't let me get away with it. I find the extra 500 k I have for emergencies like this. She's happy now. I think, should I try to get her phone number? Nah. She's got no personality and we can't communicate, all we can do is just fuck.

I hang around the lobby for 20 minutes watching the talent. OMG the talent is amazing. All 7,8,9's. I got to come back. I was planning to go to Sakura tonight but fell asleep and woke at 3 am. Crap. I have a date tomorrow night and it's my last day. So maybe not be able to repeat Oasis.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2244333]Are you Vietnamese and speak the language because if not then you will be told the price that included the "commission" IE 300 k, regulars still pay 250 k, ie how did you get feedback. Also if you are a foreigner the BEST girls are never brought to you as they get requested by regulars by name and number etc, only the uglier girls will be brought to you as they are the ones not so busy. Further the best ones will refuse most foreigners, I have seen them refuse most Caucasians, All Indians and many east Asians eh Chinese, Koreans and Japanese. I stay there 24/7 for up to two weeks and I'm Vietnamese and I speak the language.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're right. 250 k for Vietnamese customer.

BTW, I did notice the hottest chics were delivered to Do Son Star.

Anyhow, IMO, Do Son is just good for banging young pussies. Because in comparison, back in my home country, to bang a Viet girl just cost double of Do Son, but the service is much much better.

Not to mention the girls at Do Son don't shower before each session.

[QUOTE=Scorpioangel;2245735]Maybe you're right. 250 k for Vietnamese customer.

BTW, I did notice the hottest chics were delivered to Do Son Star.

Anyhow, IMO, Do Son is just good for banging young pussies. Because in comparison, back in my home country, to bang a Viet girl just cost double of Do Son, but the service is much much better.

Not to mention the girls at Do Son don't shower before each session.[/QUOTE]Where are you from the cheapest place I know for Viet girls is kl where its 70-130 rng which is 400-700 vnd the lower range not much better service wise than doson but you are right given the distance the lack of other entertainment options in doson its not a great option for a holiday.

Here is the list of HOt, Teen, Young, big tits, great service. Copied from vietnamese forum and updated by the local here [URL]https://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/an-choi-do-son-thang-11-2018-mua-bao-gia.1198644/[/URL].

Price has been updated to 300 K most places, some still charge 250 K. Over night price starting from 900 K from 2 am-6 am to 1500 K for nice one from 12 am to 6 am. These are the price locals are paying.

The list here has the girl name, and last 3 digits of the phone number of the hotel she lives in.

Teen. Nice face. Cute.Teen
---Tuyết 985---Ngân 579---Hà 915---Hoàn 569---Tít 301---Diệp 555---Hà 370---Phương 002
---Hằng 002---Trang 686---Hiền 301---Yến 166
---Trang 434---Phương Ú Òa 907---Trang 907---Linh 569---Thảo 617---Mai 872---Miên 083
---Thương 930---Giang 930
---Uyên 682---Thảo 682---Xuân 002---Yến 642---Quỳnh 301---My 301
---Thủy 750---Thủy 868
---Quỳnh Anh 370---Lan 985---Linh 094
---Hương 894
---Phương 985

very young 18-20
---Hà 532---Vy 301---Hà 907---My 907---Yến 907(nhà Vạn Lợi)---Thủy bé 569---Hậu 569---Mai 821---Ngọc169---Lan 569
U20 đến U25
---Ngọc 555---Huế 930---Ngọc 566

Nice body
---Thuý 532--Nhi bé 566

Great Service
---Tít 301---Thảo 301---Thủy 569---Quỳnh 555---Thương 930---Giang 930---Hồng 916---Hồng 560

Best service
---Lan 532---My 639---Xuân 750(tối)---Phương 740---Thảo 740---Ngọc 002

Big tits
---Vân 301

Tall over 1m65
---Tít 301---Hoàn 569---Hoài 434---Trang 915---Ly 555

Enjoy guys!!

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[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2251206]Here is the list of HOt, Teen, Young, big tits, great service. Copied from vietnamese forum and updated by the local here [URL]https://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/an-choi-do-son-thang-11-2018-mua-bao-gia.1198644/[/URL].

Price has been updated to 300 K most places, some still charge 250 K. Over night price starting from 900 K from 2 am-6 am to 1500 K for nice one from 12 am to 6 am. These are the price locals are paying.

The list here has the girl name, and last 3 digits of the phone number of the hotel she lives in.

Enjoy guys!![/QUOTE]Thanks Cohen!

By the way, know which of the supposed "18-20" girls is prettiest and most slender and petite? (Nice skin and teeth and good hygiene).

Also, certainly don't want to insult Vietnamese, but sadly many Chinese women blatantly stink. Mainly many Chinese have an oral hygiene problem because seemingly many don't brush the teeth often.

That includes Taiwanese Chinese and so on sadly.

How are Viet women under 30 generally in that respect? (And the do son girls).

Thankfully don't remember any Viet girls having that bad of hygiene. So mainly asking about do son girls.

Hello everyone,

I am visiting Vietnam this December. Can someone guide me on how to hire a girl for whole day?

I looked into the website of Kynu and thienid, cannot contact these girls from the website on WhatsApp.

Thanks!!

[QUOTE=SexGod;2256296]Thanks Cohen!

By the way, know which of the supposed "18-20" girls is prettiest and most slender and petite? (Nice skin and teeth and good hygiene).

Also, certainly don't want to insult Vietnamese, but sadly many Chinese women blatantly stink. Mainly many Chinese have an oral hygiene problem because seemingly many don't brush the teeth often.

That includes Taiwanese Chinese and so on sadly.

How are Viet women under 30 generally in that respect? (And the do son girls).

Thankfully don't remember any Viet girls having that bad of hygiene. So mainly asking about do son girls.[/QUOTE]You are going for bottom barrel prices so I would not expect quality or clean there. Cheap release with lot of choices that all they are.

[QUOTE=Attila1201;2256664]Hello everyone,

I am visiting Vietnam this December. Can someone guide me on how to hire a girl for whole day?

I looked into the website of Kynu and thienid, cannot contact these girls from the website on WhatsApp.

Thanks!![/QUOTE]You could get a local sim card ($5) and contact their number listed. Book her for hh or HR first. Why do you want to spend more money with someone you never met?

So after meeting for hh or HR, you you like her and she likes you then you can negotiate full day rate etc.

That way you can sure you will have a whole day of fun not disappointment.

Dear friends,

I will be travelling to hanoi from 22 Dec. Till 30 Dec. 2018 and will be staying in Phan Dinh Phung Street, Ba Dinh.

I would really appreciate if you could recommend clean and nice massage parlour proposing extra near this area as I will be on foot.

I also wish to know if there is nuru massage near this area.

For all of the guys never been to Do Son, Hai Phong.

This is a video showint exactly what is like, when you are in Do Son.

So you get to one of the motels. They will bring you the girls to your room so you can choose. And sometimes the girls will reject you, because they see you are foreigner (especially African dudes with big cock) .

[URL]https://lauxanh.org/3461/toan-canh-choi-gai-goi-o-bo-xay-dung-do-son-hai-phong-viet-nam/[/URL]

This is kind of line up you will see there as well. Do not expect super hot models for $15/ shot but there are some gems to be have.

p/s: the guy in videos properly had like 20 girls there, and you can hear the girls often asked the pimp: is his penis big? lolz

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2263116]
[URL]https://lauxanh.org/3461/toan-canh-choi-gai-goi-o-bo-xay-dung-do-son-hai-phong-viet-nam/[/URL]...

is his penis big? lolz[/QUOTE]Awesome video. Thanks!

[QUOTE=RVP2020;2262484]Dear friends,

I will be travelling to hanoi from 22 Dec. Till 30 Dec. 2018 and will be staying in Phan Dinh Phung Street, Ba Dinh.

I would really appreciate if you could recommend clean and nice massage parlour proposing extra near this area as I will be on foot.

I also wish to know if there is nuru massage near this area.[/QUOTE]Try taking a GRAB to the Rockstore in old town and there is a guy that works that corner just south that finds single guys for fun after 9-10 PM and the place is just east 3 blocks in an unmarked store front but the girls upstairs where beautiful (the guy is 20 ish and full of energy and looks like he's offering scooter rides).

Best of luck I was there first of November.

Have booked into a 4* in old quarter and wondering if the massage services advertised typically throw up any extra service options?

In past found Hanoi quite lacking for mongering and am re-visiting for other reasons but wondered if hotel massage services hold as much potential as in other locations.

FWIW I'm staying at Hai Bay Hotel. Don't know at the moment if massages are in-room or in a spa.

I just came back from Hanoi and stayed inside the old quarter.

There was no one in the Nearby search.

Very disappointed as I was hoping to game some from Wechat as if of some review here.

Zalo girls can't fu*king speak simple English. There were some girls available on Zalo but they don't come over to the hotel.

They asked you to come to their places which were hard to find even on the google map.

So the mission failed but only had BJ at the massage place. I wanted to F.

Alert: Wechat search is out of the options.

Forget WeChat for now, my wife in Hanoi is on a free pass for an encounter while she is there so hit me up for more info and pics.

I am interested?

Forget WeChat for now, my wife in Hanoi is on a free pass for an encounter while she is there so hit me up for more info and pics.

I am interested?

Forget WeChat for now, my wife in Hanoi is on a free pass for an encounter while she is there so hit me up for more info and pics.

[QUOTE=Grndz;2272672]Forget WeChat for now, my wife in Hanoi is on a free pass for an encounter while she is there so hit me up for more info and pics.[/QUOTE]I love wives. Would be happy to take care of her needs.

I would avoid wechat and the like. Theyre all managed by their bosses, I've had some longer talks with them trying to get some good girls. Usually you will get a girl that looks nothing like in the picture and has halitosis. If you're unlucky she will throw a hiss fit until you pay her substantial money for her "cab" (her moto driver is, of course, always waiting nearby). In Sai gon, I usually managed to barter prices around 1 mil VND 2 shots, 2 mil overnight. But the goods sent to me prevented were not at all pleasing so I can't confirm this. So once I befriended a boss, he sends me some "unaltered" pics, promised young girl, GFE, BBJ etc etc. But would cost 1.5 mil per shot or 2 for 2. I accept, although found it pretty steep (remember, normal VN working girls in Sai gon start at 300 k, you have to visit them in hourly hotels). Girl was even prettier in the pictures, my blood went south and she asked payment up front which I paid (I thought I was on the safe side having the boss on my side) and she even asked for a tip up front! Well it all went downhill from that, safe to say it was one of my worst p6 experiences.

Oh the split for the wechat girl: 300 k for 1 shot, the rest of the 1. 5 mil goes to the boss, 500 k for the 2 mil option. No wonder they're not motivated.

I'd stick to the several forums in Vietnamese. I use google translate to communicate and to read it, as I don't speak a single word. Had some OK experience in Saigon with those.

I'm in hoi an right now, everything is overpriced thanks to all the tourists here. Hope I will find some time to try some girls in the Nang or Hanoi.

[QUOTE=Oiosux;2268471]I just came back from Hanoi and stayed inside the old quarter.

There was no one in the Nearby search.

Very disappointed as I was hoping to game some from Wechat as if of some review here..[/QUOTE]

In Hanoi I used Badoo and Cupid in the past. After lots of time and wasted communication I would find a woman to come to my apartment.

I've been to the websites and visited the hotels, but having fun at my place is easier and more convenient.

I've never used WeChat although I do have it. It sounds like WeChat is not so good now. ?

Any other ways or better ways to get a freelancer to come to my apartment?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Huffer246;2273065]I love wives. Would be happy to take care of her needs.[/QUOTE]Cool! How can I contact you to set up a meet with her?

Thanks for your review, now I know this place, it is not far from my my hotel. I've been here for 2 weeks and checked out some places but there are not as clean. Cleanliness is very important to me.

My experience was great overall. Here is some more details:

First I found the manager's number in the ads, then I texted her via Zalo for some information, and direction.

Upon arrival, I am impressed it is a big tall building, like 10 stories tall. Which has beer club, restaurant, cafe and even Karaoke KTV, and massage parlor. It is like a big entertainment all in one shop, so you can come in and you can eat, you can drink, you can sing, and you can have a massage and a happy ending, all within this building.

The massage shop in is 4th floor, and after I sited down, have a drink, I talked in mama for a bit, and she asked me what kind of girls I like. I asked for Yen, but they told me Yen is not working today. And she told me they have a new girl named Thu, very beautiful with great body / service. I agreed, and chose the Vip Room for 600 K VND (about $28 US) ticket for 60 minutes.

The guy showed the to the room, when I get in, it was very new, clean and smell good. I feel good already.

When Thu entered, she was really cute, with big boobs and nice ass, not skinny but curvy and firm body, which I like, we tried to have a small talk but she did not speak English so I have to do some body language but it was alright, I was not there to chit chat, I had quick sauna, then she bathed me in the tub, then onto the Nuru oil massage on the bed. Her BJ skill and nuru skill was good, nothing to complain here except the oil was kinda cool, I would prefer the massage oil to be warmer / hot instead, but no big deal.

Here is the best part, there is a big mirror on the ceiling, this is a big plus for me as I can enjoy watching her giving me BJ, HJ and do body sliding all over me. Which was great experience.

The downside is, it is single bed, so she has to lay on top of me all the time even after I finished, next time I would opt for King room, with king size bed. Because I like the girl to be on my side and cuddle a bit after finish.

After that she took me to the shower area and washed me all over again with soap. Then help me dress up. I tipped her 650 K (about $30) which she was very happy and said thank you. When I left the room and I checked the time, it was about 80 min since I got in (and I booked for 60 min room). So they are not clock watcher and I was not charged extra when I pay my bill, which is a nice touch.

So all in all, the damage was about $60 all inclusive, needless to say I will repeat when I am back in Hanoi.

Their info here:

[URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/vip-neko-massage-29-de-la-thanh-chat-luong-dang-cap-khai-truong-50-off.1185286/[/URL]

I took some photo with my phone of the room they gave me, and the photos of the girls was sent to my via zalo by mama. I think Yen is the one with tattoo on her ass. Maybe next time I will try her.

Thanks The GreenHorn again for the review.

[QUOTE=TheGreenHorn;2215003]So went there today at 4 pm so it was quiet.

The place is brand new (1-2 weeks).

Came in sat down. Mama asked me for type of girl I liked, so said beautiful face and skinny. To be fair, I speak fluently Vietnamese so it helped. Quoted Thiendia To get 50% off.

Off we went and they gave me a nice room. It has a mirror on top so you can see all the action..[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I am due to stay in the old quarter, and I was wondering if anyone could confirm that the places in this link:

"[URL]https://vietnam.adultsearch.com/hanoi/coffee-shop-blowjob[/URL]".

Were any good? I am not sure how reliable Vietnam. Adultsearch dot com is? I am planning to stay at Hanoi little town hotel, and I noticed there are establishments on Phuc tan near the red river.

Any pointers gratefully received.

[QUOTE=Abigbulge;2275830]Hi guys,

I am due to stay in the old quarter, and I was wondering if anyone could confirm that the places in this link:

"[URL]https://vietnam.adultsearch.com/hanoi/coffee-shop-blowjob[/URL]".

Were any good? I am not sure how reliable Vietnam. Adultsearch dot com is? I am planning to stay at Hanoi little town hotel, and I noticed there are establishments on Phuc tan near the red river.

Any pointers gratefully received.[/QUOTE]Never been to those place, you may as well TOFTT, but be warn, those photos arent look so good. Please do report back.

I've been there last week, I came around 12 pm, there were only two girls. I don't know why, but I thought that I will have sex too, but girl told to me that I cannot have sex in this place. Overall massage + HJ was nice but for 1,2 mln dongs, it's way too expensive.

Hey guys,

How do you contact women on sites like: 'kieunuviet' & 'thiendia', I try, Zalo, WhatsApp, Viber with no results at all, regarding answers from them.

I'm looking for massage + HJ / BBBJ, prefer the girls to be good looking and slender. OK to pay a bit more.

Worried that since it's lunar new year here most good ones are closed for the week.

[QUOTE=Snacker;2282350]I'm looking for massage + HJ / BBBJ, prefer the girls to be good looking and slender. OK to pay a bit more.

Worried that since it's lunar new year here most good ones are closed for the week.[/QUOTE]You are in bad luck, most places will closed until Feb 10 because of lunar new years, the girls will be back to their hometown where they spend sometimes with family.

[QUOTE=Lefar123;2280716]Hey guys,

How do you contact women on sites like: 'kieunuviet' & 'thiendia', I try, Zalo, WhatsApp, Viber with no results at all, regarding answers from them.[/QUOTE]This time of the year, most of them are back in their hometown and won't answer to call / text / zalo. Wait atleast until Feb 10 then try again.

This is the worst time of year (lunar new year), not many selections, also more expensive too.

[QUOTE=Lefar123;2280691]I've been there last week, I came around 12 pm, there were only two girls. I don't know why, but I thought that I will have sex too, but girl told to me that I cannot have sex in this place. Overall massage + HJ was nice but for 1,2 mln dongs, it's way too expensive.[/QUOTE]I don't think they ever advertise you can have sex there, also, you came in during Lunar new year, most girls go back hometown (far away) and won't be back until 2 weeks later.

For the price I think they are reasonable because of new facilities, and very clean. But to each his own. If you like to fuck cheap get the girls number on vietnamese sites and call the, m.

It will be my first time in Vietnam and I refuse to overpay.

So a couple of basic questions:

- How does one know the ticket price? Other posts have explicitly said NOT to ask for prices, so how are you supposed to know the prices for different establishments?

- It seems common to tip equal to the ticket price, which to me seems incredibly odd. The tip is voluntary, right? If the ticket price is 300 k I can simply pay that and tip absolutely nothing right?

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2288089]It will be my first time in Vietnam and I refuse to overpay.

So a couple of basic questions:

- How does one know the ticket price? Other posts have explicitly said NOT to ask for prices, so how are you supposed to know the prices for different establishments?

- It seems common to tip equal to the ticket price, which to me seems incredibly odd. The tip is voluntary, right? If the ticket price is 300 k I can simply pay that and tip absolutely nothing right?[/QUOTE]Most reputable place have their price clearly listed and should charge the same price for locals or tourists. IF you don't see price clearly listed, leave, you might in for trouble. There are some places even dangerous for locals. Ie, after the terrible service they will charge you 5 x 10 x the promised price. If you don't pay, there are thugs waiting around there already. Even if you call the police it could be too late. So do your home work, ask around of refer from friends.

- to answer the questions why there are ticket price and mandatory tip.

Ticket price are for the shop owner (rent / heating / cooling / water / cleaning / facilities / protections / employee not ladies / profit) and the Mandatory tips are for the ladies, because they don't get paid at all by the owner / shop. So your tip is their salary, and they live on it. Many shop they have minimum tipping policy is the same as ticket price. Some terrible shop / owner even get a % cut from the ladies' tip to make more money. That means, the girl even have to pay the owner to work there (so they can make money). So sometimes, if you get terrible service / attitude, mostly because the lady don't get paid enough / not happy with with what they are doing / making.

Of course, if you not happy with the service / price, feel free to talk to manager / owner. They might get you discount or something.

- Thats why, sometimes when I go massage in Hanoi, I always ask my locals buddies where they like to go, it could cost a bit more, but I get much better quality time and service, and reduce lot of risks (robs / thef / bad services /.).

FYI I've been cruising around on my bike and every single one of these places here seem to no longer be in existence:

[URL]https://afarangabroad.com/blowjob-bars-in-hanoi/[/URL]

There is a string of BJ places along this road, between these two points:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/caJNgf8iwGL2[/URL]

Down south to.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/1HEd7EkerrQ2[/URL]

There are about 10. I did not see any more beyond these two points.

There is also one random BJ place here:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/ayeQcrbWL8v[/URL]

There is also a random one here with curtains covering everything. I don't know what they provide, FS or just BJ.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/Qqw5gwLqoRz[/URL]

The BJ places are really easy to identify. It's a small shop front with the garage door rolled up. The inside has purple lighting and there are always several women sitting inside and sometimes a man sitting outside. I didn't partake at any of them though.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2291357]FYI I've been cruising around on my bike and every single one of these places here seem to no longer be in existence:

[URL]https://afarangabroad.com/blowjob-bars-in-hanoi/[/URL]

There is a string of BJ places along this road, between these two points:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/caJNgf8iwGL2[/URL]

Down south to.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/1HEd7EkerrQ2[/URL]

There are about 10. I did not see any more beyond these two points.

There is also one random BJ place here:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/ayeQcrbWL8v[/URL]

There is also a random one here with curtains covering everything. I don't know what they provide, FS or just BJ.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/Qqw5gwLqoRz[/URL]

The BJ places are really easy to identify. It's a small shop front with the garage door rolled up. The inside has purple lighting and there are always several women sitting inside and sometimes a man sitting outside. I didn't partake at any of them though.[/QUOTE]I guess you are into the bottom barrel stuff, blow and go, it cost about $15-30 ticket / tip included at those places, but you get what you pay for, dirty places, beds are separated by curtains, you can hear exactly what the other guys doing. Those area are extra high risk with STD. So pay extra attention and get yourself checked too.

Thanks I also found this place after reading reviews here and other blogs, seem decent reviews and new. So I checked it out last week, around 5 pm, not very busy but there were some customers come in and out, both locals and tourists.

I opted for the VIP package which is 60 minutes. They gave me a very nice room, and clean and it also had a big mirror on the ceiling, which is a nice touch.

First lady came in, not to my liking, I asked for another, then another girl came in with beautiful face and curvy but not fat body (to me). She told me her name was Ngoc with her broken English. Good enough.

Service I got: Sauna, jacuzi, she helped me taking bath, washed my hair, clean my junior, gave me a HJ then we moved onto the massage bed. She gave me a quick decent massage then onto the Nuru body slide with oil, her skill was awesome, I came after a series of combination HJ, BBBJ and I played with her pussy for a bit.

Also, it was my first time I see my self sucked and slided over by a nice ladies. Won't be easy to forget.

Took another shower and left with a smile. Paid with my visa card, total about 53 USD including Tip.

Have fun and be safe guys!!

[QUOTE=YaoMinh;2275501]Thanks for your review, now I know this place, it is not far from my my hotel. I've been here for 2 weeks and checked out some places but there are not as clean. Cleanliness is very important to me.

My experience was great overall. Here is some more details:

First I found the manager's number in the ads, then I texted her via Zalo for some information, and direction.

Upon arrival, I am impressed it is a big tall building, like 10 stories tall. Which has beer club, restaurant, cafe and even Karaoke KTV, and massage parlor. It is like a big entertainment all in one shop, so you can come in and you can eat, you can drink, you can sing, and you can have a massage and a happy ending, all within this building..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2291743]I guess you are into the bottom barrel stuff, blow and go, it cost about $15-30 ticket / tip included at those places, but you get what you pay for, dirty places, beds are separated by curtains, you can hear exactly what the other guys doing. Those area are extra high risk with STD. So pay extra attention and get yourself checked too.[/QUOTE]Try 150 k-200 k for bjs, where are you getting 15-30 usd.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2291743]I guess you are into the bottom barrel stuff, blow and go, it cost about $15-30 ticket / tip included at those places, but you get what you pay for, dirty places, beds are separated by curtains, you can hear exactly what the other guys doing. Those area are extra high risk with STD. So pay extra attention and get yourself checked too.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Although I'm honestly looking for something straightforward. I'm really really not looking for an hour massage or some other random stuff added on. All of that is a waste of money for me. I personally prefer things like walk-up brothels or similar. You go in, have sex for a certain amount of time, pay, and that's it. I've done a couple of massages and it's not really my thing. The worst are the ones that only end in a HJ.

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2291811]Thanks. Although I'm honestly looking for something straightforward. I'm really really not looking for an hour massage or some other random stuff added on. All of that is a waste of money for me. I personally prefer things like walk-up brothels or similar. You go in, have sex for a certain amount of time, pay, and that's it. I've done a couple of massages and it's not really my thing. The worst are the ones that only end in a HJ.[/QUOTE]OK then I think you better to to Bo Xay Dung, Hai Phong, 300 K, suck, fuck and go all inclusive. You can take the bus from Hanoi to there, cost is not much and you can have lot of fun.

Hey guys,

Looking for some hot tips for some quality boom boom time. I'll be heading out to Thailand (Pattaya / Bangkok) and then onto Vietnam (Hanoi) from this weekend. I have a one week break to explore SEA whilst on a month long business trip in HK. Any dark skinned, mixed blood Kendall Jenner types most welcome.

There is so much reading to go through in a short period of time. So anyone kind enough to compile an adult Tripadvisor version of the top 5 to 10 attractions for Hanoi with associated prices would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Howie.

[QUOTE=Howie;2292763]Hey guys,

Looking for some hot tips for some quality boom boom time. I'll be heading out to Thailand (Pattaya / Bangkok) and then onto Vietnam (Hanoi) from this weekend. I have a one week break to explore SEA whilst on a month long business trip in HK. Any dark skinned, mixed blood Kendall Jenner types most welcome.

There is so much reading to go through in a short period of time. So anyone kind enough to compile an adult Tripadvisor version of the top 5 to 10 attractions for Hanoi with associated prices would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Howie.[/QUOTE]If you are too busy to read the thread for your own benefit, I'm sure most people are just too busy to compile a summary for you in which they gain zero benefit, kindness aside.

Visited Neko Nuru massage yesterday and was happy I did. I arrived at about 10:45 AM just before they opened (they open at 11:00). Walked into the first floor lobby and a young man asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes and he took me to the elevator and rode with me to the fourth floor. He gave me a glass of cold water and asked me to wait. When he came back he handed me the menu card and I told him I wanted the one hour VIP. It costs 600 k dong for the room plus 600 k dong for the tip. I paid the full amount and he took me to a nice, clean massage room with a bed, steam shower and jacuzzi tub. He turned the water on to let the tub fill and asked me to wait. I waited for about 10 minutes when a beautiful, tiny girl knocked on the door and came in. She was wearing a tight red dress and high heels. She was very cute and had a perfect little body. Not too big in the chest, but perfect. Why shaped. She invited me to undress and get in the steam shower. The glass on the steam shower was fogged up but I could see her undress and get into the tub. I was in the steam shower for about 10 minutes and finally came out on my own. She had a towel wrapped around her naked body and invited me to get in the tub. She took off the towel and joined me in the tub washing my body. Paying special attention to my sensitive spots. We got out and dried off then she asked me to lay face down on the bed. She gave me a so-so dry massage and then brought out the Nuru jelly. She spread the slippery jelly all over my back side and rubbed with her tiny hands, reaching under me occasionally and playing with my balls and my dick. She made some exaggerated sexy sounds that I knew were fake, but it was all part of her show. She then had me flip over and did some quick rubbing on my legs and stomach and then started the main event. She used her hand on my dick and pointed to the overhead mirror where I could watch her do her thing. She gave me a great BBBJ and then went back and forth between using her hand and her mouth. She finally finished me with her hand while sucking on my nipple. Her name is Kim Anh. I would highly recommend Neko Massage and especially Kim Anh.

Are there areas of Hanoi where there are street walkers? I have read about the spas but also enjoy window shopping. What areas or streets do they work?

Happy hunting.

Snook.

[QUOTE=Snook;2298151]Are there areas of Hanoi where there are street walkers? I have read about the spas but also enjoy window shopping. What areas or streets do they work?

Happy hunting.

Snook.[/QUOTE]There used to be some street with walkers, but not many because with internet, everything is available online.

Check out site like [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/tim-gai-goi[/URL] or [URL]https://timgaigoi.com/[/URL].

You might find something you like, good luck.

Is there a version in English?

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2298913]There used to be some street with walkers, but not many because with internet, everything is available online.

Check out site like [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/tim-gai-goi[/URL] or [URL]https://timgaigoi.com/[/URL].

You might find something you like, good luck.[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Just wondering if amidst all the fun anyone has looked / found a gal who is interested in something a bit more than the missionary position.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2298913]There used to be some street with walkers, but not many because with internet, everything is available online.

Check out site like [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/tim-gai-goi[/URL] or [URL]https://timgaigoi.com/[/URL].

You might find something you like, good luck.[/QUOTE]Honestly was looking for some street action last December. But couldn't find any. A local guide also told me he wouldn't know. Which I personally thought was "a bit suspicious" though. He would know. And I am sure there is some.

Thanks for your help!

[QUOTE=IAmTrout;2291357]FYI I've been cruising around on my bike and every single one of these places here seem to no longer be in existence:

[URL]https://afarangabroad.com/blowjob-bars-in-hanoi/[/URL]

There is a string of BJ places along this road, between these two points:

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/caJNgf8iwGL2[/URL]

Down south to.

[URL]https://goo.gl/maps/1HEd7EkerrQ2[/URL]

There are about 10. I did not see any more beyond these two points..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Snook;2299370]Is there a version in English?[/QUOTE]They have translate button, to translate to your language, not 100% cirrect but close enough I think.

Hi there,

Been a long-time lurker but thought I'd offer some advice as I've been living and working in both Hanoi and HCMC for a good few years now.

Wechat seems to be dead or close to dead in Hanoi, been like this since around November time last year and all I seem to get are very few female profiles, and those that I get are all ones with Chinese text.

Note that I've tried with multiple different SIMs on Vietnamobile, Viettel, etc and it doesn't seem to make a difference unfortunately.

I did have a good time with Wechat last year and the year before. The majority of the girls I met were students and they lived in the Cau Giay / My Dinh areas of Hanoi. I was arranging to meet girls in Nha Nghis around that area and paying around 1 million for one hour (and as many shots as wanted), however that is certainly not the norm any more unfortunately.

For HCMC it was the opposite. Pimps controlling the profiles, standard $60/ shot and no negotiation. Way more mechanical and not worth the effort.

There is an alternative, all the WGs have moved to Line. Get that app on your mobile and you shouldn't have too much problem for ST hookups, prices range from 1. 2 million to 1. 5 million for one shot and there are some seriously beautiful girls out there (although many are just going through the motions and want to get out as quick as possible. Connections are rare but I have made some that are now regular calls away).

Some are possible to negotiate to 1 shot for the same price, but it needs effort and a connection to get there or they will raise up to 2 million minimum.

For those that have the time, there's also Tinder and VietnamCupid for dating girls. Seems to work aok and if you have the time to date, it has a better hit rate.

I'm generally going on two dates before sex, and then I have 3 on the go at any one time.

Now I have a question. Has anyone tried using Adagrin? It's Sildenafil citrate but manufactured by a Vietnamese pharma company, only sold in VN. 3 pack is around 90000 VND, wondered if it's legit / safe and worth the effort?

Cheers,

J.

[QUOTE=JohnJShell;2304467]Hi there,

Been a long-time lurker but thought I'd offer some advice as I've been living and working in both Hanoi and HCMC for a good few years now.

Wechat seems to be dead or close to dead in Hanoi, been like this since around November time last year and all I seem to get are very few female profiles, and those that I get are all ones with Chinese text.

Note that I've tried with multiple different SIMs on Vietnamobile, Viettel, etc and it doesn't seem to make a difference unfortunately.

I did have a good time with Wechat last year and the year before. The majority of the girls I met were students and they lived in the Cau Giay / My Dinh areas of Hanoi. I was arranging to meet girls in Nha Nghis around that area and paying around 1 million for one hour (and as many shots as wanted), however that is certainly not the norm any more unfortunately.

For HCMC it was the opposite. Pimps controlling the profiles, standard $60/ shot and no negotiation. Way more mechanical and not worth the effort.

There is an alternative, all the WGs have moved to Line. Get that app on your mobile and you shouldn't have too much problem for ST hookups, prices range from 1. 2 million to 1. 5 million for one shot and there are some seriously beautiful girls out there (although many are just going through the motions and want to get out as quick as possible. Connections are rare but I have made some that are now regular calls away).

Some are possible to negotiate to 1 shot for the same price, but it needs effort and a connection to get there or they will raise up to 2 million minimum.

For those that have the time, there's also Tinder and VietnamCupid for dating girls. Seems to work aok and if you have the time to date, it has a better hit rate.

I'm generally going on two dates before sex, and then I have 3 on the go at any one time.

Now I have a question. Has anyone tried using Adagrin? It's Sildenafil citrate but manufactured by a Vietnamese pharma company, only sold in VN. 3 pack is around 90000 VND, wondered if it's legit / safe and worth the effort?

Cheers,

J.[/QUOTE]Don't waste your money on drugs made in VN. They have no standards for dissolving and absorption into the body, this is why many hospitals don't use VN made drugs (this is slowly changing, but a long ways off to be better). YOu can buy viagara in pharmacies, 4 pack of tabs and still pretty inexpensive as I recall.

GG.

[QUOTE=JohnJShell;2304467]Hi there,

Now I have a question. Has anyone tried using Adagrin? It's Sildenafil citrate but manufactured by a Vietnamese pharma company, only sold in VN. 3 pack is around 90000 VND, wondered if it's legit / safe and worth the effort?

Cheers,

J.[/QUOTE]Have not tried Adagrin. Have tried Megafort, also Vietnamese, suggested by my pharmacist friend. Works for about 2.5 days for me but is very hard to find. D5 is your best bet. Pharmacy in Vui Vien street knew what the product but did not have it on hand. Offered to order it for me. Good luck.

[QUOTE=MySeason;2293879]Visited Neko Nuru massage yesterday and was happy I did. I arrived at about 10:45 AM just before they opened (they open at 11:00). Walked into the first floor lobby and a young man asked if I wanted a massage. I said yes and he took me to the elevator and rode with me to the fourth floor. He gave me a glass of cold water and asked me to wait. When he came back he handed me the menu card and I told him I wanted the one hour VIP. It costs 600 k dong for the room plus 600 k dong for the tip. I paid the full amount and he took me to a nice, clean massage room with a bed, steam shower and jacuzzi tub. He turned the water on to let the tub fill and asked me to wait. I waited for about 10 minutes when a beautiful, tiny girl knocked on the door and came in. She was wearing a tight red dress and high heels. She was very cute and had a perfect little body. Not too big in the chest, but perfect. Why shaped. She invited me to undress and get in the steam shower. The glass on the steam shower was fogged up but I could see her undress and get into the tub. I was in the steam shower for about 10 minutes and finally came out on my own. She had a towel wrapped around her naked body and invited me to get in the tub. She took off the towel and joined me in the tub washing my body. Paying special attention to my sensitive spots. We got out and dried off then she asked me to lay face down on the bed. She gave me a so-so dry massage and then brought out the Nuru jelly..[/QUOTE]How many shots do they allow?

[QUOTE=EatALotOpus;2304652]Have not tried Adagrin. Have tried Megafort, also Vietnamese, suggested by my pharmacist friend. Works for about 2.5 days for me but is very hard to find. D5 is your best bet. Pharmacy in Vui Vien street knew what the product but did not have it on hand. Offered to order it for me. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2304623]Don't waste your money on drugs made in VN. They have no standards for dissolving and absorption into the body, this is why many hospitals don't use VN made drugs (this is slowly changing, but a long ways off to be better). YOu can buy viagara in pharmacies, 4 pack of tabs and still pretty inexpensive as I recall.

GG.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys, I can give you an update.

Went to Family Medical Practice on Kim Ma and two European doctors that I spoke to there suggested that it's worth trying Adagrin even if the standards for dissolving / absorption aren't tested properly, as the active ingredient is still the same.

At the same time, I also obtained a prescription for Pfizer Viagra (50 MG / tab) which was fairly expensive at just over $8 per tablet. However these are the real deal and I got them from the pharmacy in the Medical Practice.

Will give Adagrin a go soon so will report back with whether it's any good, especially as it's an eighth of the price of Pfizer Viagra.

Cheers,

J.

My back was in need for a massage, so I visited one of the many AMPS in the old quarter. I forgot the exact name but it was on Pho Ma May. The rate for 1 h of Vietnamese massage I negotiated down to 300 k Dong. The room on the 1st floor was quite basic, but was spacious, clean and offered complete privacy. There was only a common shower on the corridor, but since my hotel was nearby, this was not a problem.

Miss W was quite attractive (my guess late 20 ies), but her English was very limited. Her massage was a bit on the softer side, but this sent me off to sleep for a few minutes. My junior was awakened when she worked the inside of my tights. She asked whether he also wants a massage. Communication was bit difficult, but I understood that only HJ is available. She asked for 500 k for the extra service. I countered 300 k to which she agreed after a while – I hope I didn't spoil too much the local prices. The HJ was nothing special, but relieved me of any tensions left in my body.

Place: 6/10.

Lady: 7/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Extras: 5/10.

WIR: nothing special, for sure there are better options in Hanoi.

Maybe you could try Nuru massage with oil.

A video Hanoi nuru massage my buddy sent me [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEI0AcyKlnU[/URL].

[QUOTE=RudyR;2306956]My back was in need for a massage, so I visited one of the many AMPS in the old quarter. I forgot the exact name but it was on Pho Ma May. The rate for 1 h of Vietnamese massage I negotiated down to 300 k Dong. The room on the 1st floor was quite basic, but was spacious, clean and offered complete privacy. There was only a common shower on the corridor, but since my hotel was nearby, this was not a problem.

Miss W was quite attractive (my guess late 20 ies), but her English was very limited. Her massage was a bit on the softer side, but this sent me off to sleep for a few minutes. My junior was awakened when she worked the inside of my tights. She asked whether he also wants a massage. Communication was bit difficult, but I understood that only HJ is available. She asked for 500 k for the extra service. I countered 300 k to which she agreed after a while I hope I didn't spoil too much the local prices. The HJ was nothing special, but relieved me of any tensions left in my body.

Place: 6/10.

Lady: 7/10.

Massage: 7/10.

Extras: 5/10.

WIR: nothing special, for sure there are better options in Hanoi.[/QUOTE]

Guys,

I will be in Hanoi for about three days in the third week of May. Request pointers to some good girl friendly hotels and other mongering tips.

[QUOTE=BeirutGuy;2316735]Guys,

I will be in Hanoi for about three days in the third week of May. Request pointers to some good girl friendly hotels and other mongering tips.[/QUOTE]Most hotels in Hanoi are girls friendly.

Lot of information here already, if you have specific questions feel free to ask.

Enjoy!

The good and the bad:

If all was good I would probably not bother contributing to the forum, just keep leeching your good advice.

First came to Hanoi October 18', had enough fun with a couple of girls who wanted to fuck for their own selfish reasons. Nothing beats a girl that's actually hot for you. Under normal circumstance. So didn't do much mongering. Just once.

**I wasn't trying to be a player, but with enough ground work on dating apps was lucky to find a couple of consenting adults who weren't looking for anything serious, or any pretensions and promises I wouldn't keep. Both well above average good looking.

Still couldn't ignore one piece of ISG advice "go to Windy the girls are hot and crazy".

Windy massage:

Took an extra for mutual bath. In hindsight could have done without. Can't remember now, but think it was 1200000 vnd (or 1500000.2 and 5 are visually interchangeable. With time and ripe age).

Should be an even million without.

Passed on the first girl. I totally could have, but. Wasn't a knockout and I was curious to see who else was around.

In came a smallish cutey, who became smaller and flatter ass-side when the heels came off.

The blowjob was unfair. Mind bending. I was struggling to hold, didn't want it to stop. No spoilers will be disclosed, just try it.

Sometimes I tend to pop my first rather quickly, other times it takes a blessed forever. There's a whole psychology to it. I might figure out when it's too late. One way it sometimes works, is that when I'm at ease I can last longer, and when I'm stressed I pop. At Windy's I might have been quick regardless. This theme will be continued, under the BAD column for Hanoi, as 2 pops are an expensive rarity.

After I was done, she went to the bath and coughed like bloody hell to sort something out in her throat. Was a bit off putting but also seemed part of the routine.

Her massage skills were actually good. She was a natural. Cracked my back with expertise many massage-only therapists lack.

Some previous posts talked about amateurs / semi-pros who fucked them at leisure, not minding time, hanging out and repeating. Apparently this was a wechat thing, and switched now to Line app. Where you can browse for random people around you.

From my experience, every hot girl that propositioned me. On dating apps or messenger apps like wechat or Line. Uniformly will ask for more than 1 million vnd for 1 shot. If you counter with asking for 2 shot, they just double the asking.

Did not luck on an amateur with a longer game yet.

If their photos are so-so, they might offer a longer massage + sex for the same amount (1. 2-1. 4 m), body massage for less, or just sex for less. Today I had one girl with honest photos offering everything for 800 k, another offering body massage for 500 k, and another offering 90 minutes massage + 1 shot sex for 1. 2 m.

Went with the last, who seemed cute, willing, and followed up with a cute face on a videocall. (no body visible though).

When she came she was on the short and stocky side, and I was trying to figure out what to do without making it a scene for the neighbors.

Once inside I offered her to do half the time for half the money, take some nice BJ pics, and la di the. But instead of just saying I'm tired as excuse for opting out of the full 90 min, I did the mistake of pointing out the pictures were misleading.

She didn't take it well, the half and half offer didn't register, she was upset. Honestly I'd rather go through with it than playing to a big girl's insecurities, hooker or not. She was a nice girl. But maybe I felt a little cheated with the pics, and didn't come up with the obvious "sorry I'm tired lets cut it short".

She asked for taxi money, how much? 200 k. Gave her 400 k and apologized for sending her away.

Messaged another girl from line, who earlier offered the usual 1 shot for 1.3 m. Couldn't bring her down because she had a long way to get to my neighborhood.

I was running through 3 different ATMs to make up for the money I was now missing, excited though because she was gorgeous on the pics, like real special pretty and super nice legs. Actually ran back home with flip flops because she was already waiting at my door.

Arrived at my building, girl wasn't amazing like I hoped. But hot. The English she wrote on Line evaporated. Barely 2 words strung together. She tried more Viet than Eng.

Still, not bad looking, nice enough, and cheery enough. Up the stairs.

Rush job. Cut the BJ short, didn't like being on top, wanted me to fuck her quick and get it over with.

I wouldn't cooperate. Fought the pop. When it came close I slowed or pulled out, trying to change positions. Most of the time she complained. I did ask her at some point if she was OK, google translating, when she seemed dejected and generally pooped.

She urged me to get it over with already because she wants to go home. I asked her if she wanted to just go home, she pointed to her ass and gestured. I finally did as asked and popped.

BTW, I'm not even 40 and still in good shape, teeth all there fairly straight, not really at all ugly. Barring delusions. So that's not the reason for anything. She complained about size at first, but honestly I'm the universal average so I call BS.

She gets dressed, still nice but now a little antsy, gets paid, out the gate, and I stayed long enough to see someone was waiting for her with a regular bike (not a grab, not a car), and not the expensive taxi she said she had to take as excuse for not going below 1. 3 m.

In general, I'm not completely bummed, but could do without tonight.

The girl calls herself Thao Mai on Line, the phone she used to call me was 09020##486 (obscuring some numbers, just in case there's some forum rule about this).

Probably a bait and switch. Not the worst, but not for me.

Could be a good experience for a Master Dongler (username anyone?) with no hangups who just wants to destroy some pussy and still thinks in $$ western currency buying power (what's 50 Euro).

For me, this isn't the way to go in VN.

I would rather find a hotel used by several girls I like on Kynu or GaiGoi, and string 2-3 300-600 k girls one after another.

When considering the 1 shot system, I've had possibly my best sex in Europe for 120 e / HR, without a pop limit. This released me from the pressure and I could blow as pleased and make my 2nd and / or 3rd pop last much longer. Which I did.

With decent girls asking for 400 k (1 shot), to pay a girl 2.4 million for 2 shots, is the European equivalent of paying a hooker upwards of 800 euro an hour, which makes for a different kind of experience. Less casual, and more like a skinning ritual of rich foreigners.

I might try another one of those Line girls, just to contribute a fair statistical sample to the forum. But the judgement for now, is go for the more common local option of 300-800 k hotel hookers (kynu, gaigoi etc), go to specialty massage places you might want to try out, try hooking up with bar / club hookers, but careful with the app propositions in the 1.2-1.5 m a shot range. Its probably pot luck.

And if you can, find a local who just wants an honest dick, and give it to her. My thumb rule. If you don't see yourself sleeping with her twice, don't do it once. Mutual is good. Bad karma goes straight to the ulcer.

Vietnamese are generally easy about sex. And at the same time many are traditional. One girl I dated gave me a free pass, asked me straight if I was seeing other girls, didn't flinch when I said I did, told me I should try some hookers, and that she'll let me know when she starts liking me enough for it to be a problem.

Photo: Thao Mai (or actually not Thao Mai).

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2298913]There used to be some street with walkers, but not many because with internet, everything is available online.

Check out site like [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/tim-gai-goi[/URL] or [URL]https://timgaigoi.com/[/URL].

You might find something you like, good luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this, looks like this might be the easiest way to monger in Hanoi.

I read the past few pages and information on thiendia / timgaigoi; would like someone to confirm if my understanding of communicating with a lady is correct.

1. Use a local Vietnam SIM.

2. Contact the phone number provided and ask the lady for here availability. Does the website that her information was found on need to be mentioned?

3. If everything works out OK, she will reply with the hotel address.

4. When you reach the hotel, do you ask the front desk for a room for 2 hours? Is an ID usually needed?

5. Does the front desk only charge for the room, and is the tip for the lady paid to her directly?

Apologies if the questions were too basic, but some things were probably lost in translation in my reading, and this being my first time in Vietnam would greatly appreciate understanding the basics.

Cheers lads.

Hai Bay Hotel is girl friendly and after 10 pm guests must leave ID at reception.

This is not my first time in Hanoi, and have found the Hot Tocs to be a bit impersonal though a great source for action which is what I am after. However, I wanted to try to get some in my hotel this time around.

Using weChat I quickly got some ads and asked for pictures. Mistake number 1: don't believe the pictures.

Some negotiation in very broken English and we agreed on 500 K. I wisely let the hotel desk know that a "work friend" would be coming around to deliver some papers.

She showed up at my hotel and, surprise, was not the picture I had expected! She tried to convince me that the picture was her, just perhaps a bit dated. Yea, right. I let her know I was disappointed but. Have RTFF. Remember someone mentioning that with age comes experience, and it might be a good trade off. So, on to a back massage which was not terrible but not the best, then straight on giving junior some attention. Tickling and manual work led to a very average but slow and efficient BJ, partial CIM and HJ finishing. Somewhat disappointing final, but a final none the less. Far from the best I've ever had.

When I handed her the pre-prepared 500 K, I then realized my Mistake #2: she (or whoever was writing her wechats, because her spoken English was far from even the partial fluency of her written English.) had actually written "Massage 500 K", which I showed her, then later in the chat "Massage Baby 500 K", which she showed me. Apparently "Baby" is the key word and she was implying 500 K for the BJ on top of the massage. A debate ensued, she in Vietnamese, me in English, and we agreed on 700 K (which is all I had visible in my wallet).

Advice #1: picture is no guarantee of what will show up;.

Advice #2: warn your hotel! In mine it worked a treat, no problems.

Advice #3: prepare the maximum amount you are prepared to spend (imagine a tip if all goes well) and hide the rest of your cash, passport, etc.

I am still on the prowl for 18 - 20)girls willing to party, and in Hanoi & HCMC for another couple of weeks. If anyone is interested in doing some mongering together (sharing a girl or two?) I'm up for the challenge, PM me!

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Some time ago I discovered the various "gaigoi" (call girls) websites kieunuviet, kynu, thiendiam gailamtien, girlchanh. And normally found quickly what I want. Straight forward sex at a pre-agreed price. However, recently things got a bit complicated. Some of the pages seem to be inactive or have changed names. Check when the girl last posted a picture or a guest wrote a comment. Many girls do not respond, perhaps they are afraid when they see there is a foreigner asking. Of course most do not speak any English, but technology can solve this. One girl, priced at 300 k, recently showed me a google translation "from foreigners I take 800". Also the mini-hotels get nosy, asking for your passport (copy). But as I am leaving Vietnam soon; I would like to share my favourite girl "Ngan Body". I did not see her on any of the websites anymore, but she is still working. And how she is working! The best BJ I ever had, and real good FS. Here is the 1st part of her number 097. And the best of all. She speaks a decent English. The hotel she is using is a bit difficult to find the first time "Phuong Dong", off Nguyen Khanh Toan st, but its worth the search. 25963, that is how the number ends. Have fun!

[QUOTE=FigTree;2331359]Some time ago I discovered the various "gaigoi" (call girls) websites kieunuviet, kynu, thiendiam gailamtien, girlchanh. And normally found quickly what I want. Straight forward sex at a pre-agreed price. However, recently things got a bit complicated. Some of the pages seem to be inactive or have changed names. Check when the girl last posted a picture or a guest wrote a comment. Many girls do not respond, perhaps they are afraid when they see there is a foreigner asking. Of course most do not speak any English, but technology can solve this. One girl, priced at 300 k, recently showed me a google translation "from foreigners I take 800". Also the mini-hotels get nosy, asking for your passport (copy). But as I am leaving Vietnam soon; I would like to share my favourite girl "Ngan Body". I did not see her on any of the websites anymore, but she is still working. And how she is working! The best BJ I ever had, and real good FS. Here is the 1st part of her number 097. And the best of all. She speaks a decent English. The hotel she is using is a bit difficult to find the first time "Phuong Dong", off Nguyen Khanh Toan st, but its worth the search. 25963, that is how the number ends. Have fun![/QUOTE]Good to have a specific rec like this girl. Is that number correct? Is she on zalo, line etc? Did she offer 2 shots for extra? I assume BJ was a BBBJ?

Also, the girls met through the sites mentioned- I assume it included FS, BJ (BBBJ is common? Typically 1 shot, 2? Google map seems to locate street and hotel mentioned ok.

Thanks for extra info available.

Sorry for late reply.

1/ Yes.

2/ Contact via text in VNese as they don't speak english, you google translate. You can mention the sites where you got her number too.

3/ If she works she will reply you what time and hotel name, you can ask her for address, or google it.

4/ When you reach hotel, ask for a short stay room 1 h-2 h. Normally local don't need ID, but you can give them your ID, no problem. When you get to the room, text the girl your room number and wait, normally she should be there in 5-10 min.

5/ Hotel / Motal only charge the room, the tip you give the girl directly in the room, after the service, not before.

From my experience, when you mention you are a [URL]ThienDia.Com[/URL]'s member (the biggest vietnamese adult review community) they tend to provide better service, because they know if they don't do good job, they may get a bad review on a popular site. Which hurts their business.

Tips:

- You can text multiple girls in the same area, chances are they may also works in the same hotel or very close. So if one of them does not show up (sometimes happens) or does not look too good, you can kindly refuse and get another girl in the same area. So you don't get blue balls lolz.

[QUOTE=FordHarsh;2322079]Thank you for this, looks like this might be the easiest way to monger in Hanoi.

I read the past few pages and information on thiendia / timgaigoi; would like someone to confirm if my understanding of communicating with a lady is correct.

1. Use a local Vietnam SIM.

2. Contact the phone number provided and ask the lady for here availability. Does the website that her information was found on need to be mentioned?

3. If everything works out OK, she will reply with the hotel address.

4. When you reach the hotel, do you ask the front desk for a room for 2 hours? Is an ID usually needed?

5. Does the front desk only charge for the room, and is the tip for the lady paid to her directly?

Apologies if the questions were too basic, but some things were probably lost in translation in my reading, and this being my first time in Vietnam would greatly appreciate understanding the basics.

Cheers lads.[/QUOTE]

Looking for some high end escorts. Can someone tell me if this is legit: [URL]https://www.vietnamdolls.com/[/URL].

And are there other sites like that one I can check out?

Thanks.

Hey David,

No need to apologize. I started looking this up as soon as I knew I had to travel to Hanoi for work and it was well in time.

Thank you for all the tidbits, they definitely helped. I generally picked out the 600 k+ profiles, just to weed out the low barrel noise and then checked if the numbers were reachable on Zalo. Established contact after friend requests were accepted.

Managed to get 3 meetings sorted with pretty impressive girls, I miss Hanoi now given how easy it was to engage, confirm and enjoy what was on offer.

That said. The more I read about Neko, the more I was intrigued and then they certainly peaked my interest after their account on Zalo sent me some 30+ photos of girls who were available late into the night till about 2 am. One visit and I was hooked even though there was no full service available. I went another 2 times trying out both their King Room and VIP Room options, easily enjoyed more out here than with the ladies from the websites.

I'll put out a couple of posts later with more information in a bit.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2332956]Sorry for late reply.

1/ Yes.

2/ Contact via text in VNese as they don't speak english, you google translate. You can mention the sites where you got her number too.

3/ If she works she will reply you what time and hotel name, you can ask her for address, or google it.

4/ When you reach hotel, ask for a short stay room 1 h-2 h. Normally local don't need ID, but you can give them your ID, no problem. When you get to the room, text the girl your room number and wait, normally she should be there in 5-10 min.

5/ Hotel / Motal only charge the room, the tip you give the girl directly in the room, after the service, not before..[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I will be in Hanoi for the first time for a few days.

I stay in a girl friendly hotel near the old quarter.

Do you have any recommendations what is the best way to get some girls to my hotel?

Since I do not have the time to go out and look for some.

Which website is reliable to find girls?

Which apps are working well? WeChat, Badoo, Zalo, BeeTalk?

Thanks for your help!

See that there is a lot of chatter about Neko in the past few pages, and since I explored this business quite a bit, thought of penning down a few thoughts in case it helps someone.

Google them up, and their number will come up instantly. Add the numbers on Zalo, usually the guy called Linh is very responsive in accepting friend requests and answering any other questions you might have. During business hours of 1100-0200, he will also share photos of all the girls that are available and working that day. He will also offer options for services provided for your needs. Big Boobs, CIM, Rimming etc. If there is someone you like based on these inputs, you also have the option to schedule the room type and girl.

They are located in a building called OCD plaza. Grab is plenty useful in Hanoi, and I usually took a GrabBike to Neko. If you don't want your location history to show up your visits to Neko, try looking up Aries Coffee. It is in the same location, and your locaton history stays cleaner. The Neko Massage signage are on both sides of the building, it is very hard to miss this place. Once you enter the building, you will see attendants in black shirts and trousers that will guide you to the elevator, and then send you up to the 4th floor.

Once the elevator doors open, you enter a small room which is essentially the reception and a few chairs. Once seated they will bring you a small drink. And then ask for your choice of room. Ask them to bring the tablet which will have the girls available on the day in case you did not schedule an appointment prior. If you don't ask, they will just ask you for your choice of room, and send one of the available girls. So always better to ask. The pricing is in two pieces, one for the room and one for the girl each in equal parts.

VIP: 60 minutes. 600,000 VND Room + 600,000 VND Girl = 1,200,000 VND ($52 USD).

VIP: 90 minutes. 800,000 VND Room + 800,000 VND Girl = 1,600,000 VND ($69 USD).

King: 90 minutes. 950,000 VND Room + 950,000 VND Girl = 1,900,000 VND ($82 USD).

There's also a master pool suite that might tend to the needs of a bachelor party. Having tried both the VIP 60 minutes and King 90 minutes, I do feel that the King Package is definitely worth the extra outlay. It makes up for a much better experience. They will confirm the total price before taking you to the room and never asked me to prepay. I always paid while leaving. They will accept credit cards, USD at 1:22,000 VND and of course VND.

Once your room is ready, they lead you down the hallway to the room, switch on the sauna for you and ask for you to wait for the girl. You could choose to undress while waiting for the girl, I generally prefer the girl to do it since it is the first time she comes close, and you can gauge how the session is going to go based on the first interaction. If you did not choose the girl and do not prefer the one that came in, you have the option to ask for a different girl. I personally hate sending girls back, so my advice is to always pick the girl before you reach the place. I have had FS at massage parlors, but the overall level of quality of the place and the choice of girls easily makes it the top MP I've been to.

Hi there,

Does anyone know pick up bars in Hanoi which are like Judy's or Manhattan in Shanghai?

Thanks!

This is the most basic option provided. The room has a sauna, a single bath and a single bed, laid out in a neat pattern that divides the room into the needed sections for activites. Perhaps the best part of this room is the long rectangular mirror on the ceiling over the bed. More on this later. Since the glass panels of the sauna steam up, consider putting your items locked in your backpack since you will probably not have visibility for a period of time. If I had to nitpick, lacking a locker in a massage room would have been the one, but after 3 visits, I never felt that there would be a chance of something going missing.

I had picked #4 (Ann) since she was one among the few that offered CIM and Rimming. A pleasant surprise when she walked in and started conversing in broken English. She had a black dress on without a bra revealing her ample bosom. She came close, started unbuttoning my shirt and tried to engage in chit chat asking where I'm from etc. As she was unbuttoning me, I took the chance to pull her in slightly and she partook in a good tight hug. Firm tits and ass, I knew this would be good from that moment on but got shot down with the turn to the cheek when I leaned in for a kiss. She then undressed me wholly and led me to the sauna. The sauna was very good, with consistent heat and they have leaves of eucalyptus (or maybe some other herbs) in the sauna which lends an aroma. I can see her clean up the bath tub, lay out the towels etc while inside the sauna. After 5-6 minutes, I step out and she takes me to the tub.

After adjusting the water temperature, Ann then proceeds to baby wash me. Head wash is optional and she generously washed my upper chest, armpits, legs and then a good thorough soapy handjob. She took cleanliness very seriously, with each part of the body being washed quite a bit, specially when I was asked to stand up and she washed me between my legs with subtle ass fingering. She then went for a quick wash herself in the sauna, came out in a towel and then proceeded to dry me. And off we went to the massage table.

She asked me to lay on my back, and came sat over my ass with her towel still on. Was a slight bummer having this piece of cloth between us. I asked her to remove it and she obliged. Massage started with the legs. Picking up each leg, held it under her breasts and started kneading the muscles in this bent knee posture. Proceeded to systematically massage up the body right up to my shoulders which took about 12-15 minutes. She then stepped away to go get the small bottle of gel / hot liquid. Applies some over my body and then takes a sip from this mug and starts kissing my legs with the liquid oozing out of her mouth. She kissed the whole back of the body this way. Feeling her lips over parts of my body was a bit awkward at the start, but I started enjoying it towards the end. She then applied some over her tits to start the nuru massage. Stood on the side of the table and rubbed her tits starting from the lower back all the way down to my feet a few times with excellent energy and pressure. Then repeated the same on the other side with the left leg. Once the legs were done, she moved to the bum and then proceeded to the back. It's a lovely feeling of those perky nipples gliding across your body.

Now after turning around and lying on your back, watching all of this go down on the mirror above takes it to a different level. Her lubed breasts gliding back and forth around my erect shaft and then moving upward to hiss at and kiss my ear lobes. Turns around and then rubs my chest with her bum and her hands going all the way down to the legs. Great view of her firm ass, prefect for a squeeze. Then turns around again and now holds on to my shoulders while sliding up and down. You keep thinking why there is no FS here, it's so freaking close with all the sliding. Once I had hold of her ass while she was on top, she submitted to any direction I wanted to move her in at the speed I wanted to. And I cannot re-iterate the pleasure of watching all of this in the mirror above.

Ann then sat herself down between my legs, got some more of the liquid in her mouth, held my dick and dropped it slowly over my hard shaft wrapping her lips around it. This hot liquid flowing down my dick as she moved to deep throat was one of the most magical feelings ever. She didn't continue with the BJ at this moment, but moved to kiss around my nutsack with the liquid around. Rimming was excellent, she held my legs up in the air and licked aplenty. Then stroked me for a while before she started the BJ. Enthusiastic and energetic, she gave it her all but the fake moaning sounds were such a turn off. I asked her to come closer so that I had access to her as well. But with so much gel that I did not want to taste, all I did was finger her tight kitty while she continued with the blowjob. I wasn't close to coming yet and while she switched to stroke with her hand to relax her mouth I asked if she could do the hot gel thing again. Unfortunately she showed me that the cup was empty but somehow took it on to go full crazy with the blowjob. Had an excellent release inside her mouth, and she kept stroking to get every single drop.

She then looked at me and smiled, and make a quick run to the bathtub where she washed her mouth a few times and then also rinsed with mouthwash. Wrapped a towel and came back, and then asked me to get into the sauna where she washed me again. Opened up her towel and dropped it on the floor and all she did was gently smile. Spun her around for a great grab of her tits from behind and told her that I absolutely loved the way she pleased me. After washing me she asked me to step outside and get a towel to dry myself. She closed the door behind her to continue her bath, but I told her to keep the door open so that I could keep watching her beautiful body. She finished her bath, dried herself and then put on her lace panties and black dress. Gave me a tight hug again asked how long I am going to be in Hanoi etc. Showed her a few photos of Ha Long Bay where I was the previous day and she said that I should have went to some National Forest area which is about 2-3 hours from Hanoi. Never looked at the time, it was well over an hour when we finally walked out of the room. Tipped her an additional 10 $ since she definitely aimed to please. Her thank you in broken English and dimpled smile were such a great end to the hour.

Walked out and paid the 1,200,000 VND at the reception. They ask for feedback on the tablet, for both room and girl Selected 5 stars all the way through and went on my way figuring out who to try next.

[QUOTE=FordHarsh;2344363]This is the most basic option provided. The room has a sauna, a single bath and a single bed, laid out in a neat pattern that divides the room into the needed sections for activites. Perhaps the best part of this room is the long rectangular mirror on the ceiling over the bed. More on this later. Since the glass panels of the sauna steam up, consider putting your items locked in your backpack since you will probably not have visibility for a period of time. If I had to nitpick, lacking a locker in a massage room would have been the one, but after 3 visits, I never felt that there would be a chance of something going missing.

I had picked #4 (Ann) since she was one among the few that offered CIM and Rimming. A pleasant surprise when she walked in and started conversing in broken English. She had a black dress on without a bra revealing her ample bosom. She came close, started unbuttoning my shirt and tried to engage in chit chat asking where I'm from etc. As she was unbuttoning me, I took the chance to pull her in slightly and she partook in a good tight hug. Firm tits and ass, I knew this would be good from that moment on but got shot down with the turn to the cheek when I leaned in for a kiss. She then undressed me wholly and led me to the sauna. The sauna was very good, with consistent heat and they have leaves of eucalyptus (or maybe some other herbs) in the sauna which lends an aroma. I can see her clean up the bath tub, lay out the towels etc while inside the sauna. After 5-6 minutes, I step out and she takes me to the tub...[/QUOTE]Will be in Hanoi soon and this (and previous one) is very useful. Thanks for taking time and for such detail. Hope I can offer some future feedback too.

Kynu, thiendia, timgaigoi, girlchanh are all sites with frequent updates. Just use the number from the profile page of the girl you want to meet and initiate contact with an SMS or on Zalo. Use Google Translate, specially the 'did you mean' part.

If you have an international number they might ask for a different rate, or mention that they charge more for foreigners. Make sure you know what you are paying.

Sometimes the address that they provide isn't too precise, I usually didn't pursue that further. I was able to ask one girl to come to my hotel too, but when you are headed to the hotel you will usually see that they have the short term room rates of 2-3 hours.

At one hotel, the guy at the reception told me that there were no rooms available. I think it was just racist towards someone brown skinned, but the 2 next times I just gave out my US DL when I walked in and had no trouble.

One thing that puts you off is that the girls from these sites are rushed for time.

[QUOTE=Tcooks;2341649]Hi guys,

I will be in Hanoi for the first time for a few days.

I stay in a girl friendly hotel near the old quarter.

Do you have any recommendations what is the best way to get some girls to my hotel?

Since I do not have the time to go out and look for some.

Which website is reliable to find girls?

Which apps are working well? WeChat, Badoo, Zalo, BeeTalk?

Thanks for your help![/QUOTE]

I'll write up the King room exp during my next flight. But if you are in Hanoi sometime sooner do take the King room for 90 minutes at 1,900,000 VND.

IMO it is the best VFM option at Neko. If I could go back in time and change the two times I went with the VIP 60 min option, I definitely would.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2344586]Will be in Hanoi soon and this (and previous one) is very useful. Thanks for taking time and for such detail. Hope I can offer some future feedback too.[/QUOTE]

Hello VietNam!

I am going try and tell you all you need to know to monger Happily in Hanoi based upon my experiences.

Arrival. Grab works from airport. Taxi is more expensive. Plan About 250,000 vnd to Old Quarter. WiFi works in airport so your phone will work to order Grab. Remember tag number (important not to get in wrong cab), take screenshot, go outside 2nd island to meet.

Where to stay? Best Hotel, Pretty Much any in Old Quarter will work fine.

I recommend, Central Park Hotel, price fair, located between 2 straight massage parlors, very nice staff, girl friendly and seems to be centrally located when doing Wechat or LINE search for girls, Yes, location is important for search distance order in programs. Oh yes, frequent visitor, they store luggage for up to 1 year and will store your motorbike free. Really great for frequent travelers. Best location. Hotel Center of most things to do. Free big breakfast eggs, omelet, fruit, juices, toast etc. If friends, they invite you supper also. Good Good Guys.

Central Park Hotel.

56 Hang B.

Hoah Kiem Hanoi, Hanoi.

Next, after check in hotel? Do I need a local Telephone / Sim card? Yes, You need a local sim card for your phone if you want to communicate. Best way to buy is go to the store of carrier you choice. No problem to buy with passport. I recommend Viettel, Why? Viettel network Installed and maintained by the military, owned by the government and has by far the Best coverage for All of VietNam. Viettel, the store right, 2 blocks from hotel front door.

OK, so you are ready?

Instant meet? Gaigoi (call girls) websites all of these work Kynu, thiendia, (2 best) or timgaigoi, girlchanh, kieunuviet, thiendiam, gailamtien, girlchanh. Find girl you like (prices quoted), best to look at most recent dates, that helps find most active girls, text her message from your phone of what you want. You need to translate into Vietnamese, use google translate. IE. 1 shot? Meet? Etc. The price quoted is normally for 40 minutes 1 shot, some allow 2 shots within that time. They will send You back a message of hotel name and address to meet. Go there and get room for 1-2 hours normally, hotel will tell you price, cheap, cheap. Text girl room number, she will then come to your room. All has been honest to my knowledge. None will work without condom for FS. My experience, girl in picture is same girl with photo shop. Most only speak Vietnamese.

Meet girls online.

Wechat, Yes, it still works, not as good as previous years. Still good to setup an account on your phone. Your location helps, reason I say stay old quarter. Search people nearby. Send friend request to girls you like. Girls usually start working about 9 pm. Average Prices 1,400,00 vnd ST, 2,500,000 vnd LT. I had at least 4-6 offers per night this week. All pretty girls. July 2019.

LINE, (The Best) set up account, do search people nearby, send friend request to girls you like pictures. I got 20 hits within 1 hour. All pretty girls.

Zalo, Setup account, Yes, can meet girls, but difficult. I have succeeded. Line and Wechat much easier forums. More regular / real girls on Zalo.

Craigslist still works. Look under activities or missed connections.

[URL]https://vietnam.craigslist.org/?lang=en&cc=us[/URL]

Finally, to make things easy for You. I am giving you names / ids of real girls you can meet. Look at picture and names information. Pictures attached. Look at ID. Search in Wechat or Line, find girl, make friends. Later Good Friends?

Do I need a motorbike? I say Yes. Makes travel easy and fun. Unrestricted and timely travel as to your schedule. If you decide No motorbike, Grab is best 2nd choice. Install on your phone and setup an account. Works great. I even got laid from lady Grab driver. Do I need a VN drivers license, NO. I got one, never checked in 4 years. Can I get license, Yes. Complicated. [URL]https://www.vietnam-immigration.org.vn/news/view/how-to-convert-driver-license-for-foreigner-living-in-vietnam-part-2.html[/URL].

Motorbike. What should I buy. I suggest You Buy a Yamaha Nouvo. $200-$300. Easy to drive, easy to repair, cheap price. First get it serviced. Good mechanic near hotel. They give you name. Drive it and sell it on Craigslist when leaving. Or give it away to another monger coming Hanoi. Leave hotel for next guy? Play it forward. How to buy. Look on Craigslist, or call this guy. I bought several for girls. Don't pay asking price. Ride and check brakes and lights. Make them repair anything wrong. Then good to go. I suggest, Buy good helmet, HJC makes good reasonable priced helmets. Don't buy junk on street. Oh yes, buy cheap rain poncho, put in storage motorbike.

ED or Need some help to build up steam? Vietnamese Adagrin / Viagra or Megafort / Cialis both work available and are available at drug store no prescription needed.

OK, Now bored, You are interested in wild weekend or 3 some or 4 some? This is how to do it easy.

Go to Do Son, South of Haiphong, it is very famous for this kind of quick, cheap assembly line service. In Do Son, the famous area is called: Bo Xay Dung. More girls, and the quality is better, they will charge you 300,000 VND / shot all inclusive. But you can negotiate to 250,000 VND / shot. Overnight is normally 750,000 VND from 2 am to 6 am. Or 1,5 M from 12 AM to 6 am.

You can rent a room there for about 300,000/ night, I suggest try to get rooms on higher floors, they are often more clean, the rooms on lower or main floor get too much actions, and are very dirty.

IF you want 3 some 4 some 5 some, just tell them, just multiply the cost. So if I want to get service from 3 girls at the same time. You are going to pay 750,000 or 900,000 vnd depending on what the negotiated price for each shot is. Sometimes it is 300,000 sometimes 250,000 vnd.

To get to Do Son from Ha Noi, you guys can go by bus (cheapest). From Ha Noi, you take bus to Hai Phong, About $5 or less, it takes about 1 hour 15 min. Then from Hai Phong, you take another bus to Do Son, about $2 or less, this take about 1 HR min.

Coordinates Google maps.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Special[/URL]++++++Collections / at 20.6834437,106.7948661,19.92 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x314 a6 c8 aa9069599 azingx895181 d45 d8 b5 e7 a!8 m2!3 d20.6836979!4 d106.7946561.

Most of the information from this topic is from [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/...-2018.1156777/.[/URL].

I hope this has helped You!

Happy Hunting!

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[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2345332]Hello VietNam!

I am going try and tell you all you need to know to monger Happily in Hanoi based upon my experiences.

Arrival. Grab works from airport. Taxi is more expensive. Plan About 250,000 vnd to Old Quarter. WiFi works in airport so your phone will work to order Grab. Remember tag number (important not to get in wrong cab), take screenshot, go outside 2nd island to meet.

Where to stay? Best Hotel, Pretty Much any in Old Quarter will work fine.

I recommend, Central Park Hotel, price fair, located between 2 straight massage parlors, very nice staff, girl friendly and seems to be centrally located when doing Wechat or LINE search for girls, Yes, location is important for search distance order in programs. Oh yes, frequent visitor, they store luggage for up to 1 year and will store your motorbike free. Really great for frequent travelers. Best location. Hotel Center of most things to do. Free big breakfast eggs, omelet, fruit, juices, toast etc. If friends, they invite you supper also. Good Good Guys.

Central Park Hotel..[/QUOTE]Great info. And on social media, prices etc.

I use line at the moment with Thai girls before my arrival but I can't find a vicinity search, like on WeChat. How can I do this?

After installing Line and ready to find friends go to bottom right hand corner of screen and select MORE.

A new screen appears.

Noe look top right hand corner, second row Down.

Select people nearby.

A New page appears showing pictures of people nearby sorted in order by distance from you. (Reason I say hotel location helps).

Many have Captions. IE Massage Men, Massage, Lonely, those are hints.

Go ahead and send friend request to pictures you like. Make sure you allow location services ON when asked.

I got 20 replies in 2 hours. Most Girls P4 P.

You will also get Friend Request from girls you did not contact yourself.

Duh? Most of these girls are P4 P.

Negotiate your best deal.

They all will come to you at Hotel.

Tell front desk you have a girl friend dropping by.

Have a great time!

I am going try and tell you all you need to know to monger happily in Hanoi based upon my experiences.

Arrival. Grab works from airport. Taxi is more expensive. Plan about 250,000 vnd to old Quarter. WiFi works in airport so your phone will work to order Grab. Remember tag number (important not to get in wrong cab), take screenshot, go outside 2nd island to meet.

Where to stay? Best Hotel, pretty much any in Old Quarter will work fine.

I recommend, Central Park Hotel, price fair, located between 2 straight massage parlors, very nice staff, girl friendly and seems to be centrally located when doing Wechat or LINE search for girls, Yes, location is important for search distance order in programs. Oh yes, frequent visitor, they store luggage for up to 1 year and will store your motorbike free. Really great for frequent travelers. Best location. Hotel Center of most things to do. Free big breakfast eggs, omelet, fruit, juices, toast etc. If friends, they invite you supper also. Good Good Guys.

Central Park Hotel.

56 Hang BE.

Hoah Kiem Hanoi, Hanoi.

Next, after check in hotel? Do I need a local Telephone / Sim card? Yes, You need a local sim card for your phone if you want to communicate. Best way to buy is go to the store of carrier you choice. No problem to buy with passport. I recommend Viettel, Why? Viettel network Installed and maintained by the military, owned by the government and has by far the Best coverage for All of VietNam. Viettel, the store right, 2 blocks from hotel front door.

OK, so you are ready?

Instant meet? Gaigoi (call girls) websites all of these work Kynu, thiendia, (2 best) or timgaigoi, girlchanh, kieunuviet, thiendiam, gailamtien, girlchanh. Find girl you like (prices quoted), best to look at most recent dates, that helps find most active girls, text her message from your phone of what you want. You need to translate into Vietnamese, use google translate. IE. 1 shot? Meet? Etc. The price quoted is normally for 40 minutes 1 shot, some allow 2 shots within that time. They will send You back a message of hotel name and address to meet. Go there and get room for 1-2 hours normally, hotel will tell you price, cheap, cheap. Text girl room number, she will then come to your room. All has been honest to my knowledge. None will work without condom for FS. My experience, girl in picture is same girl with photo shop. Most only speak Vietnamese.

Meet girls online.

Wechat, Yes, it still works, not as good as previous years. Still good to setup an account on your phone. Your location helps, reason I say stay old quarter. Search people nearby. Send friend request to girls you like. Girls usually start working about 9 pm. Average Prices 1,400,00 vnd ST, 2,500,000 vnd LT. I had at least 4-6 offers per night this week. All pretty girls. July 2019.

LINE, (The Best) set up account, do search people nearby, send friend request to girls you like pictures. I got 20 hits within 1 hour. All pretty girls.

Zalo, Setup account, Yes, can meet girls, but difficult. I have succeeded. Line and Wechat much easier forums. More regular / real girls on Zalo.

Craigslist still works. Look under activities or missed connections.

[URL]https://vietnam.craigslist.org/?lang=en&cc=us[/URL]

Finally, to make things easy for You. I am giving you names / ids of real girls you can meet. Look at picture and names information. Pictures attached. Look at ID. Search in Wechat or Line, find girl, make friends. Later Good Friends?

Do I need a motorbike? I say Yes. Makes travel easy and fun. Unrestricted and timely travel as to your schedule. If you decide No motorbike, Grab is best 2nd choice. Install on your phone and setup an account. Works great. I even got laid from lady Grab driver. Do I need a VN drivers license, NO. I got one, never checked in 4 years. Can I get license, Yes. Complicated. [URL]https://www.vietnam-immigration.org.vn/news/view/how-to-convert-driver-license-for-foreigner-living-in-vietnam-part-2.html[/URL].

Motorbike. What should I buy. I suggest You Buy a Yamaha Nouvo. $200-$300. Easy to drive, easy to repair, cheap price. First get it serviced. Good mechanic near hotel. They give you name. Drive it and sell it on Craigslist when leaving. Or give it away to another monger coming Hanoi. Leave hotel for next guy? Play it forward. How to buy. Look on Craigslist, or call this guy. I bought several for girls. Don't pay asking price. Ride and check brakes and lights. Make them repair anything wrong. Then good to go. I suggest, Buy good helmet, HJC makes good reasonable priced helmets. Don't buy junk on street. Oh yes, buy cheap rain poncho, put in storage motorbike.

ED or Need some help to build up steam? Vietnamese Adagrin / Viagra or Megafort / Cialis both work available and are available at drug store no prescription needed.

OK, Now bored, You are interested in wild weekend or 3 some or 4 some? This is how to do it easy.

Go to Do Son, South of Haiphong, it is very famous for this kind of quick, cheap assembly line service. In Do Son, the famous area is called: Bo Xay Dung. More girls, and the quality is better, they will charge you 300,000 VND / shot all inclusive. But you can negotiate to 250,000 VND / shot. Overnight is normally 750,000 VND from 2 am to 6 am. Or 1,5 M from 12 AM to 6 am.

You can rent a room there for about 300,000/ night, I suggest try to get rooms on higher floors, they are often more clean, the rooms on lower or main floor get too much actions, and are very dirty.

IF you want 3 some 4 some 5 some, just tell them, just multiply the cost. So if I want to get service from 3 girls at the same time. You are going to pay 750,000 or 900,000 vnd depending on what the negotiated price for each shot is. Sometimes it is 300,000 sometimes 250,000 vnd.

To get to Do Son from Ha Noi, you guys can go by bus (cheapest). From Ha Noi, you take bus to Hai Phong, About $5 or less, it takes about 1 hour 15 min. Then from Hai Phong, you take another bus to Do Son, about $2 or less, this take about 1 HR min.

Coordinates Google maps.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/Special[/URL]++++++Collections / at 20.6834437,106.7948661,19.92 z / data=!4 m5!3 m4!1 s0 x314 a6 c8 aa9069599 azingx895181 d45 d8 b5 e7 a!8 m2!3 d20.6836979!4 d106.7946561.

Most of the information from this topic is from [URL]http://thiendia.com/diendan/threads/...-2018.1156777/.[/URL].

I hope this has helped You!

Happy Hunting!

Rainman.

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[QUOTE=FigTree;2331359]Some time ago I discovered the various "gaigoi" (call girls) websites kieunuviet, kynu, thiendiam gailamtien, girlchanh. And normally found quickly what I want. Straight forward sex at a pre-agreed price. However, recently things got a bit complicated. Some of the pages seem to be inactive or have changed names. Check when the girl last posted a picture or a guest wrote a comment. Many girls do not respond, perhaps they are afraid when they see there is a foreigner asking. Of course most do not speak any English, but technology can solve this. One girl, priced at 300 k, recently showed me a google translation "from foreigners I take 800". Also the mini-hotels get nosy, asking for your passport (copy). But as I am leaving Vietnam soon; I would like to share my favourite girl "Ngan Body". I did not see her on any of the websites anymore, but she is still working. And how she is working! The best BJ I ever had, and real good FS. Here is the 1st part of her number 097. And the best of all. She speaks a decent English. The hotel she is using is a bit difficult to find the first time "Phuong Dong", off Nguyen Khanh Toan st, but its worth the search. 25963, that is how the number ends. Have fun![/QUOTE]Good and practical Info, much needed.

Can you check the tel Number, something is wrong (Too short).

Best.

Hello,

I am planning my first trip to Hanoi and a few other places in Vn in August.

Have been able to establish contact with a bunch of girls through various websites, but they all seem to use Zalo!

Though I can setup Zalo from my own country using my own mobile number, there seems to be no way to hide the number. Is it possible to create a Zalo account with a fake or virtual mobile number?

Please assist.

OopsBoy.

I was in Hanoi for the past 3 months. Got multiple encounters in Neko Nuru Massage.

Decided I need to go to a happy ending massage. So googled and found neko nuru massage. I took a girl named "chi" since I am not petite person. We started with the naked batching in the tub followed by dry massage. Shen then poured the nuru oil all over the body and started to move her tongue all around the body. Took good care of the important places. Jonny was hard enough she noticed that started with the BBBJ. It was one of the awesome BBBJ ever. It went for close to 15 minutes. Came all over her mouth which she swallowed. Asked her if she can do a FS. She said it is not possible here but gave her contact. Came out like a happy man.

Damage: 1. 9 million VND.

I called her up next day asked if she came to come my hotel in Old quarter and asked her how much and she came down to 1. 5 million VND for 2 hours. She said OK and came over. We got naked and I was kissing her all over. Then she slowly started with the BBBJ Once johnny hard enough I put on the protection and entered her in mission. Fucked her for 10 minutes then asked her to get on top of me. We banged for close to 15 minutes in WOT, then came over inside protection.

Damage: 1.5 million VND.

WIR: maybe if come back to Hanoi.

[QUOTE=Oopsboy;2350712]Hello,

I am planning my first trip to Hanoi and a few other places in Vn in August.

Have been able to establish contact with a bunch of girls through various websites, but they all seem to use Zalo!

Though I can setup Zalo from my own country using my own mobile number, there seems to be no way to hide the number. Is it possible to create a Zalo account with a fake or virtual mobile number?

Please assist.

OopsBoy.[/QUOTE]You can buy 1 local sim card, it's fairly cheap. 2-3 dollars per one.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2351365]You can buy 1 local sim card, it's fairly cheap. 2-3 dollars per one.[/QUOTE]Add to that you don't need to give your passport or any ID. Which seems strange.

[QUOTE=Samarth;2352210]Add to that you don't need to give your passport or any ID. Which seems strange.[/QUOTE]Normally, you need to have an ID to register, but the shops usually sell already registered phone sims.

I'll be visiting Hanoi in October and I have a weekend to kill before my guided tour starts. I was eyeing some of the ladies on [URL]cityoflove.com[/URL] and I'm skeptical they are legit simply because they are so damn attractive. Is my radar failing me here? My experience with sex work is that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. However I have no experience in SE Asia. Has anyone used this website?

I know the quoted prices are high but I only have one weekend and given that my usual haunts are US strip clubs a few hundred for a beautiful woman is cheap. I did send a Whatsapp message and got a fairly prompt response, so that's something I guess. I would much prefer to just order a lady to my hotel as I'm not huge on the bar scene. I'll venture out if necessary though.

Either way, thanks for all your contributions. Hopefully I'll have something to add come October.

[QUOTE=BamFurlough;2354334]I'll be visiting Hanoi in October and I have a weekend to kill before my guided tour starts. I was eyeing some of the ladies on [URL]cityoflove.com[/URL] and I'm skeptical they are legit simply because they are so damn attractive. Is my radar failing me here? My experience with sex work is that if it seems too good to be true, it probably is. However I have no experience in SE Asia. Has anyone used this website?

I know the quoted prices are high but I only have one weekend and given that my usual haunts are US strip clubs a few hundred for a beautiful woman is cheap. I did send a Whatsapp message and got a fairly prompt response, so that's something I guess. I would much prefer to just order a lady to my hotel as I'm not huge on the bar scene. I'll venture out if necessary though.

Either way, thanks for all your contributions. Hopefully I'll have something to add come October.[/QUOTE]I won't make a decision for you but I grabbed a random lady in my case its Mina whatsapp Mina +8613 xxxxx519 firstly considering that +86 isn't even Vietnamese country code but is China and that the pictures actually belong to (when I image searched) Instagram model vyvan LE [URL]https://www.instagram.com/vyvan.le/...you[/URL] make up you own mind when not thinking with your penis.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2354469]I won't make a decision for you but I grabbed a random lady in my case its Mina whatsapp Mina +8613 xxxxx519 firstly considering that +86 isn't even Vietnamese country code but is China and that the pictures actually belong to (when I image searched) Instagram model vyvan LE [URL]https://www.instagram.com/vyvan.le/...you[/URL] make up you own mind when not thinking with your penis.[/QUOTE]Yup. After messaging a couple more numbers I definitely agree. Why can't every place be as simple and easy as Montreal?

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2354469]I won't make a decision for you but I grabbed a random lady in my case its Mina whatsapp Mina +8613 xxxxx519 firstly considering that +86 isn't even Vietnamese country code but is China and that the pictures actually belong to (when I image searched) Instagram model vyvan LE [URL]https://www.instagram.com/vyvan.le/...you[/URL] make up you own mind when not thinking with your penis.[/QUOTE]I approached this girl, calls herself Laura Blanco (of all names in the world), ads on Cityoflove, number +843 xxxxx605 . She didn't even resist when I put it in her face that her pics are fake. She immediately suggested a video call. That's your best bet.

Not in Hanoi, but in Saigon, the one calling herself Vy is the exception. Real pics, not as cheap, but worth the effort! PM me for more details.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2353977]Normally, you need to have an ID to register, but the shops usually sell already registered phone sims.[/QUOTE]So I'm guessing picking up a SIM card at the airport won't be a pre-registered, ready-to-go one? In the city centre do most or many phone shops sell pre-registered ones? Any reliable shops I could use?

[QUOTE=BamFurlough;2355083]Yup. After messaging a couple more numbers I definitely agree. Why can't every place be as simple and easy as Montreal?[/QUOTE]Places are easy as Montreal when you are a local. But I don't think Montreal is easy as I'm not interested in paying 300 CAD for 1 HR with a 40 yr old who weighs 60 kgs, what I want is 20 usd for a 21 yr spinner, now if you can easily find something like that in Montreal, then ill agree with you.

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2355262]Places are easy as Montreal when you are a local. But I don't think Montreal is easy as I'm not interested in paying 300 CAD for 1 HR with a 40 yr old who weighs 60 kgs, what I want is 20 usd for a 21 yr spinner, now if you can easily find something like that in Montreal, then ill agree with you.[/QUOTE]You and I have had very different Montreal experiences. I saw a lovely 24 year old women for 250 CAD an hour and I'm definitely not a local. I'll gladly pay half that for a competent Vietnamese girl.

[QUOTE=Jon1967;2355187]I approached this girl, calls herself Laura Blanco (of all names in the world), ads on Cityoflove, number +843 xxxxx605 . She didn't even resist when I put it in her face that her pics are fake. She immediately suggested a video call. That's your best bet.

Not in Hanoi, but in Saigon, the one calling herself Vy is the exception. Real pics, not as cheap, but worth the effort! PM me for more details.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip. I've got lots of time. I'll keep at it and see what I find.

I found Miss Vy in Saigon and I am going to be there as well but I won't have time to make an appointment. She definitely provides the type of service I'm looking for.

[QUOTE=BamFurlough;2355399]You and I have had very different Montreal experiences. I saw a lovely 24 year old women for 250 CAD an hour and I'm definitely not a local. I'll gladly pay half that for a competent Vietnamese girl.

Thanks for the tip. I've got lots of time. I'll keep at it and see what I find.

I found Miss Vy in Saigon and I am going to be there as well but I won't have time to make an appointment. She definitely provides the type of service I'm looking for.[/QUOTE]Shame you won't have the time for her. She most definitely is your best bet in HCMC, and I have been with more than half of the real girls on these sites (and that makes no more than 5-6 girls, unfortunately). For anyone who does have the time, call her up. She is the one.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2355206]So I'm guessing picking up a SIM card at the airport won't be a pre-registered, ready-to-go one? In the city centre do most or many phone shops sell pre-registered ones? Any reliable shops I could use?[/QUOTE]Most small shops in the city sell these SIM cards (not big stores like Thegioididong, FPT).

[QUOTE=Rebornhaxor;2350728]I was in Hanoi for the past 3 months. Got multiple encounters in Neko Nuru Massage.

Decided I need to go to a happy ending massage. So googled and found neko nuru massage. I took a girl named "chi" since I am not petite person. We started with the naked batching in the tub followed by dry massage. Shen then poured the nuru oil all over the body and started to move her tongue all around the body. Took good care of the important places. Jonny was hard enough she noticed that started with the BBBJ. It was one of the awesome BBBJ ever. It went for close to 15 minutes. Came all over her mouth which she swallowed. Asked her if she can do a FS. She said it is not possible here but gave her contact. Came out like a happy man.

Damage: 1. 9 million VND.

I called her up next day asked if she came to come my hotel in Old quarter and asked her how much and she came down to 1. 5 million VND for 2 hours. She said OK and came over. We got naked and I was kissing her all over. Then she slowly started with the BBBJ Once johnny hard enough I put on the protection and entered her in mission. Fucked her for 10 minutes then asked her to get on top of me. We banged for close to 15 minutes in WOT, then came over inside protection.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! I will check the place out. Although you paid 1.5 mil for 2 hrs, did you get multiple shots? Every girls I have been with only do single.

[QUOTE=Mnp25;2357722]Thanks for the info! I will check the place out. Although you paid 1.5 mil for 2 hrs, did you get multiple shots? Every girls I have been with only do single.[/QUOTE]I think he only got 1 shot. He should get multiple shots, 1. 5 million for 15 minutes is pricey.

[QUOTE=Jovak;2321067]The good and the bad:

If all was good I would probably not bother contributing to the forum, just keep leeching your good advice.

First came to Hanoi October 18', had enough fun with a couple of girls who wanted to fuck for their own selfish reasons. Nothing beats a girl that's actually hot for you. Under normal circumstance. So didn't do much mongering. Just once.

**I wasn't trying to be a player, but with enough ground work on dating apps was lucky to find a couple of consenting adults who weren't looking for anything serious, or any pretensions and promises I wouldn't keep. Both well above average good looking.

Still couldn't ignore one piece of ISG advice "go to Windy the girls are hot and crazy"...[/QUOTE]Where did you get the information of girl.

[QUOTE=Frankzhang;2362274]Where did you get the information of girl.[/QUOTE]You can try [URL]timgaigoi.com[/URL] I see many hundreds girls there different cities in vietnam.

[QUOTE=Rebornhaxor;2350728]I was in Hanoi for the past 3 months. Got multiple encounters in Neko Nuru Massage.

Decided I need to go to a happy ending massage. So googled and found neko nuru massage. I took a girl named "chi" since I am not petite person. We started with the naked batching in the tub followed by dry massage. Shen then poured the nuru oil all over the body and started to move her tongue all around the body. Took good care of the important places. Jonny was hard enough she noticed that started with the BBBJ. It was one of the awesome BBBJ ever. It went for close to 15 minutes. Came all over her mouth which she swallowed. Asked her if she can do a FS. She said it is not possible here but gave her contact. Came out like a happy man.

Damage: 1. 9 million VND.

I called her up next day asked if she came to come my hotel in Old quarter and asked her how much and she came down to 1. 5 million VND for 2 hours. She said OK and came over. We got naked and I was kissing her all over. Then she slowly started with the BBBJ Once johnny hard enough I put on the protection and entered her in mission. Fucked her for 10 minutes then asked her to get on top of me. We banged for close to 15 minutes in WOT, then came over inside protection.

Damage: 1.5 million VND.

WIR: maybe if come back to Hanoi.[/QUOTE]Wow good for you to get her contact info and have some extra fun. She must like you alot.

[QUOTE=FordHarsh;2340777]Hey David,

No need to apologize. I started looking this up as soon as I knew I had to travel to Hanoi for work and it was well in time.

Thank you for all the tidbits, they definitely helped. I generally picked out the 600 k+ profiles, just to weed out the low barrel noise and then checked if the numbers were reachable on Zalo. Established contact after friend requests were accepted.

Managed to get 3 meetings sorted with pretty impressive girls, I miss Hanoi now given how easy it was to engage, confirm and enjoy what was on offer.

That said. The more I read about Neko, the more I was intrigued and then they certainly peaked my interest after their account on Zalo sent me some 30+ photos of girls who were available late into the night till about 2 am. One visit and I was hooked even though there was no full service available. I went another 2 times trying out both their King Room and VIP Room options, easily enjoyed more out here than with the ladies from the websites.

I'll put out a couple of posts later with more information in a bit.[/QUOTE]Glad I was able to help. And you look like you had some good memory at Neko: the.

[QUOTE=Frankzhang;2362274]Where did you get the information of girl.[/QUOTE]Or you could try "Call Girls Hanoi" on [URL]thiendia.com[/URL]. They have many members and many reviews about escorts.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2364456]Or you could try "Call Girls Hanoi" on [URL]thiendia.com[/URL]. They have many members and many reviews about escorts.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I get it.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2364456]Or you could try "Call Girls Hanoi" on [URL]thiendia.com[/URL]. They have many members and many reviews about escorts.[/QUOTE]Good advice, I met a few girls there, alot of fun.

4th time in Hanoi. Not much happening like other places, but still some good stuff.

Windy Spa:

Last year, I had written a review on Windy Spa, that the girls were batshit crazy and horny (in a good way) and man o man, they don't disappoint. They have upped their prices, 1000 k tip per girl, so 2 x girl option is out for me. However, I had this number 23, and things she did to me in the bathtub. Everything except stick my tool in her part. Did finger fuck her, she pretended to cum. Best part was the titty-job and she made sure I shoot my load all over her tits. Best part was that her massage was a genuine massage, not something girls do to kill time in the middle. She.

Neku Massage:

The setting is very nice. The wooden walls, tiles on the floors give the impression of a high-end place. My girl was pretty average, nice ass but no boobs. OK attitude, below par massage. 1200 k down the drain, didn't get much from it.

Thiendia:

- Tried a couple of girls. First girl, oh what a disappointment. She gave me hotel info, got a room, pretty shitty but OK whatever. She shows up, no lingerie, gives me BJ while checking her phone (total turn off). Refuses to have sex and asks me to hurry up, next customer is waiting in the room over. Wtf.

- Second girl, gives me hotel info. Show up there, the guy at the desk doesn't speak a word of English. I use translator app and ask for a room. His translator keeps showing me that he is on vacation for a few weeks. I text the girl back that hotel isn't giving room but she didn't get it or whatever, ended up with blue balls. And that's when I went to Windys (see top).

Hi Borthers.

I was told that there are two hotels that you can have in room service, Fortuna and hanoi hotel. Anyone has any experience? I will arrive later night at Land in the hanoi airport at about 10 pm, by the time get to the hotel may be midnight? Would like to have a company for the night eight short term or long term.

Any suggestions?

If anyone interested, I will treat you a beer the next day when I am recover from the long trip and the jetlag.

Thank.

Jb.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2375106]Hi Borthers.

I was told that there are two hotels that you can have in room service, Fortuna and hanoi hotel. Anyone has any experience? I will arrive later night at Land in the hanoi airport at about 10 pm, by the time get to the hotel may be midnight? Would like to have a company for the night eight short term or long term.

Any suggestions?

If anyone interested, I will treat you a beer the next day when I am recover from the long trip and the jetlag.

Thank.

Jb.[/QUOTE]By this you mean call girls? If so, I recently had wechat girls join me at Hai Bay Hotel and La Storia Hotel.

[QUOTE=Penguin69;2375259]By this you mean call girls? If so, I recently had wechat girls join me at Hai Bay Hotel and La Storia Hotel.[/QUOTE]No what you are referring to is GF hotels IE they allow you to have female companions join you, what he is referring to is that the hotels themselves provides the girls which is something slightly different.

Yeah both Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel allow girls from their basement club / KTV come up to your room.

You can't simply call they to your room, you need to sit down with them first which incurs a sitting fee and drinks $65 US). If you take the girl upstairs you waive the sitting fee. ($40). $120 short time and $170 overnight.

By 10 all the hot ones would have been taken.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2375106]Hi Borthers.

I was told that there are two hotels that you can have in room service, Fortuna and hanoi hotel. Anyone has any experience? I will arrive later night at Land in the hanoi airport at about 10 pm, by the time get to the hotel may be midnight? Would like to have a company for the night eight short term or long term.

Any suggestions?

If anyone interested, I will treat you a beer the next day when I am recover from the long trip and the jetlag..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Johnnyblu;2375469]Yeah both Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel allow girls from their basement club / KTV come up to your room.

You can't simply call they to your room, you need to sit down with them first which incurs a sitting fee and drinks $65 US). If you take the girl upstairs you waive the sitting fee. ($40). $120 short time and $170 overnight.

By 10 all the hot ones would have been taken.[/QUOTE]I think you are overly optimistic with your overnight pricing 300-400 usd is more likely.

[QUOTE=Johnnyblu;2375469]Yeah both Fortuna and Hanoi Hotel allow girls from their basement club / KTV come up to your room.

You can't simply call they to your room, you need to sit down with them first which incurs a sitting fee and drinks $65 US). If you take the girl upstairs you waive the sitting fee. ($40). $120 short time and $170 overnight.

By 10 all the hot ones would have been taken.[/QUOTE]
Thank you all for the advises.
Of the two hotels, which one have better chance to get a girl to you room around midnight? I have booked the Hanoi hotel with good deal, but certainly willing to change to other one if I can get better chance. May be the Fortuna hotel is in a better location in terms of activity. Is the Hanoi in a quite place, not much activity?

[QUOTE=MutantChicken;2375603]I think you are overly optimistic with your overnight pricing 300-400 usd is more likely.[/QUOTE]170 probably is an old rate. Price has increased probably a few time since then.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2376040]Thank you all for the advises.
Of the two hotels, which one have better chance to get a girl to you room around midnight? I have booked the Hanoi hotel with good deal, but certainly willing to change to other one if I can get better chance. May be the Fortuna hotel is in a better location in terms of activity. Is the Hanoi in a quite place, not much activity?[/QUOTE]You may want to check with the hotel to see if the KTV closes at midnight. The selection won't be good that late

[QUOTE=Nounce;2376046]You may want to check with the hotel to see if the KTV closes at midnight. The selection won't be good that late[/QUOTE]I did checked, the spa closed at 1 am, and the KTV close at 2 am. That is why I booked this one because I hope after I can check in, I can have a massage in the spa before go to sleep.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2376179]I did checked, the spa closed at 1 am, and the KTV close at 2 am. That is why I booked this one because I hope after I can check in, I can have a massage in the spa before go to sleep.[/QUOTE]The spa may offer HJ if it is a girl, you can negotiate privately to have FS in your room with the girl in the spa. If you find a girl that agrees to FS, you can ask the Spa to send the girl to your room next time or just after.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2376195]The spa may offer HJ if it is a girl, you can negotiate privately to have FS in your room with the girl in the spa. If you find a girl that agrees to FS, you can ask the Spa to send the girl to your room next time or just after.[/QUOTE]Great, hopefully, I can find one. I assuming I can still go to KTV to pick up one if there is no one available in the spa.

Thank.

Jb.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2376566]Great, hopefully, I can find one. I assuming I can still go to KTV to pick up one if there is no one available in the spa.

Thank.

Jb.[/QUOTE]Just wonder if anyone on this board has stayed in Hanoi hotel before? How was it?

Fortuna would be the better choice. More selection at their stable than Hanoi Hotel.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2376040]Thank you all for the advises.
Of the two hotels, which one have better chance to get a girl to you room around midnight? I have booked the Hanoi hotel with good deal, but certainly willing to change to other one if I can get better chance. May be the Fortuna hotel is in a better location in terms of activity. Is the Hanoi in a quite place, not much activity?[/QUOTE]

Central Park Hotel. I've stayed there over 180 days easy in my travels. They will become Your friends.

56 Hang Be.

Small sign, good breakfast. Great service. Rooms ok.

Rate OK.

Best location Hoan Khiem.

Why? Hotel is Great Location. Also center location To Find girls & it is girl friendly.

No questions asked about girls to visit or over night.

1st get local sim card. Local phone number. Easy and cheap. Viettel store 100 yards away. $25.

Download the Program LINE.

Select more located bottom right corner.

Select people nearby. From Menu.

Look at girls pictures, choose girls you like, send friend request.

You will get replies, soon they ask if You want sex.

You will quickly have replies from 10 or more beautiful girls selling sex. ST 50-$75 & LT. $90 - $125.

Good hunting!

This is a sure bet!

[QUOTE=JohnnyBlu;2377840]Fortuna would be the better choice. More selection at their stable than Hanoi Hotel.[/QUOTE]But the spa close at midnight at fortuna, 1 am at Hanoi, will see what happen.

Thanks.

Which is currently a better choice for fun 18-20 yo women at low prices?

1. do son beach area.

OR.

2. Hekou (on China border) (and lo cai area).

Is hekou (and lo cai) still fun and highly active?

Thanks in advance to any with recent info answering!

(Appreciate if "David Cohen" posts answers to this).

[QUOTE=SexGod;2381032]Which is currently a better choice for fun 18-20 yo women at low prices?

1. do son beach area.

OR.

2. Hekou (on China border) (and lo cai area).

Is hekou (and lo cai) still fun and highly active?

Thanks in advance to any with recent info answering!

(Appreciate if "David Cohen" posts answers to this).[/QUOTE]I think it would be 1. Do son. Hard to beat the selections and value of Do Son.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2386206]I think it would be 1. Do son. Hard to beat the selections and value of Do Son.[/QUOTE]Do you know, by chance, how to get to Do Son from Hanoi, on low budget?

Will arrive in Hanoi middle of November, so to take an excursion, as it sounds worth to be.

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2386371]Do you know, by chance, how to get to Do Son from Hanoi, on low budget?

Will arrive in Hanoi middle of November, so to take an excursion, as it sounds worth to be.[/QUOTE]

Sure this is the google map address of the area:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/X%C3%A2y+D%E1%BB%B1ng+Hotel/@20.6831161,106.7960091,17.56z/data=!4m8!3m7!1s0x314a6c8aa9069599:0x895181d45d8b5e7a!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d20.6836979!4d106.7946561[/URL]

To get there:

- From Hanoi, you can get on a bus to Hai Phong, about 1 h15 min, cost you about 4.5$ 1 way [URL]https://hoanglongasia.com/dat-ve-chuyen-ngan[/URL].

- Then You can get grab bike from Hai Phong to Do Son.

Thanks a lot.

Although I booked hotel in Hanoi already, does it make sense to have an overnight stay in Do Son ?

Amd, if yes, any recommended hotel / bar / club?

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2386206]I think it would be 1. Do son. Hard to beat the selections and value of Do Son.[/QUOTE]Currently visiting China where there is still some light-ish colored pussy. Are most of the labia brown and the pussies (and bungholes) hairy in Hanoi and Do Son and so on?

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2386547]Thanks a lot.

Although I booked hotel in Hanoi already, does it make sense to have an overnight stay in Do Son ?

Amd, if yes, any recommended hotel / bar / club?[/QUOTE]If you're only want to visit Do Son, it doesn't make sense to me. Outside the beach and the area around Xay Dung Hotel, there is nothing that Hanoi doesn't have.

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2386515]Sure this is the google map address of the area:
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/place/X%C3%A2y+D%E1%BB%B1ng+Hotel/@20.6831161,106.7960091,17.56z/data=!4m8!3m7!1s0x314a6c8aa9069599:0x895181d45d8b5e7a!5m2!4m1!1i2!8m2!3d20.6836979!4d106.7946561[/URL]

To get there:

- From Hanoi, you can get on a bus to Hai Phong, about 1 h15 min, cost you about 4.5$ 1 way [URL]https://hoanglongasia.com/dat-ve-chuyen-ngan[/URL].

- Then You can get grab bike from Hai Phong to Do Son.[/QUOTE]Seems that link URL's get shortened in the forum. Can post the google map coordinates for fun area in Do Son and Nam Dinh?

Thanks in advance! Basically China hasn't been very fun recently so thinking of moving to Vietnam this month or early next month.

Besides, on average a Viet girl is much more likely to be a wonderful wife.

I am Korean and in Korean 'night life' community, there are some rumors that Do Son is torn down now and will be disappear soon.

This is the picture they uploaded. Even though this picture is maybe fake, there are 5 or more posts that talking about tearing down Do Son.

Is this really true? Can anyone who is near Do Son or Hai Phong explain for me?

I heard Do Son has competitiveness in price, so I was planning to visit Do Son soon.

I hope Do Son to remain and not disappear until I go.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2378037]Central Park Hotel. I've stayed there over 180 days easy in my travels. They will become Your friends.

56 Hang Be. ...... ........ .....

Why? Hotel is Great Location. Also center location To Find girls & it is girl friendly.

No questions asked about girls to visit or over night.
[/QUOTE]One small correction. Think address 58 Hang Be. 56 there is also a small corridor but leading to nothing. I'm staying that hotel now. Good value for money.

[QUOTE=PattayaSoi6;2392279]I am Korean and in Korean 'night life' community, there are some rumors that Do Son is torn down now and will be disappear soon.

This is the picture they uploaded. Even though this picture is maybe fake, there are 5 or more posts that talking about tearing down Do Son.

Is this really true? Can anyone who is near Do Son or Hai Phong explain for me?

I heard Do Son has competitiveness in price, so I was planning to visit Do Son soon.

I hope Do Son to remain and not disappear until I go.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I just stayed in Hai Phong 2 months ago and went to Do Son 1 day, it's still the same as 5 years ago even though it seems the number of tourists is less than before (not torn down through).

[QUOTE=Morton219;2392505]I just stayed in Hai Phong 2 months ago and went to Do Son 1 day, it's still the same as 5 years ago even though it seems the number of tourists is less than before (not torn down though).[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention I just lurking around the usual place that everyone goes to, so there might be other areas looking torn down that I didn't see.

[QUOTE=PattayaSoi6;2392279]This is the picture they uploaded. Even though this picture is maybe fake, [/QUOTE]Photo was taken in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2392627]I forgot to mention I just lurking around the usual place that everyone goes to, so there might be other areas looking torn down that I didn't see.[/QUOTE]Hey Morton,

I was wondering how if you can help me with this Bitcoin membership. I live in Hanoi. Any way to get in touch with each other. John.

[QUOTE=SexGod;2381032]Which is currently a better choice for fun 18-20 yo women at low prices?

1. do son beach area.

OR.

2. Hekou (on China border) (and lo cai area).

Is hekou (and lo cai) still fun and highly active?

Thanks in advance to any with recent info answering!

(Appreciate if "David Cohen" posts answers to this).[/QUOTE]The Problem w doson is unless you are a young, good looking chap, the prettier, younger girls will turn you down.

Hekou does not have this Problem and have better services.

I would anytime choose hekou over doson since prices almost the same. 100 yuan and 300 k.

I had a whale of time in hekou about a year ago after disappointed w doson.

If you are over 40 yo, I suggest avoid doson.

[QUOTE=Datiao;2393980]The Problem w doson is unless you are a young, good looking chap, the prettier, younger girls will turn you down.

Hekou does not have this Problem and have better services.

I would anytime choose hekou over doson since prices almost the same. 100 yuan and 300 k.

I had a whale of time in hekou about a year ago after disappointed w doson.

If you are over 40 yo, I suggest avoid doson.[/QUOTE]Is this Hekou or more specific "fun place", at China side or Vietnam side? If it's on the Chinese side, do you need visa to enter?

[QUOTE=ScorpioAngel;2394146]Is this Hekou or more specific "fun place", at the China side or Vietnam side? If it's on the Chinese side, do you need visa to enter?[/QUOTE]It is on the China side. You do not need a visa if you are Vietnamese (still need to apply for entry permit) and visa if you aren't.

Long over due report.

I was in Hanoi for one day two night. Thank you all in this board to provide the useful information. Before I landed the airport, I did reviewed this section and got good information. As I will arrive late and do not want to miss any opportunity, I booked the Hanoi hotel which has KTV and not too far from the Nuru massage place. Landed in Hanoi airport at about 10 pm, after collect my bags, greeted by the taxi driver at the exit and arrived the hotel about 11:30 pm. Quickly checked in and went down to the KTV. They still open until 12 ad got a lineup about 15, choose one that has eye contact with me several times and had a beer with her, then went to upstair to my room. Showered together, then spend about 2 hours in my room for 1. 2 m. We did almost everything except the anal. She has white skin and great body which I like. I was suprise when she told me that she has a 4 years old daughter because she was so young and beautiful. I gave her 400 k tip before she left.

Great place and enjoy.

Jb.

[QUOTE=JudeBright;2395792]Long over due report.

I was in Hanoi for one day two night. Thank you all in this board to provide the useful information. Before I landed the airport, I did reviewed this section and got good information. As I will arrive late and do not want to miss any opportunity, I booked the Hanoi hotel which has KTV and not too far from the Nuru massage place. Landed in Hanoi airport at about 10 pm, after collect my bags, greeted by the taxi driver at the exit and arrived the hotel about 11:30 pm. Quickly checked in and went down to the KTV. They still open until 12 ad got a lineup about 15, choose one that has eye contact with me several times and had a beer with her, then went to upstair to my room. Showered together, then spend about 2 hours in my room for 1. 2 m. We did almost everything except the anal. She has white skin and great body which I like. I was suprise when she told me that she has a 4 years old daughter because she was so young and beautiful. I gave her 400 k tip before she left.

Great place and enjoy.

Jb.[/QUOTE]How much for 2 hours? 2 million vnd?

[QUOTE=Morton219;2394438]It is on the China side. You do not need a visa if you are Vietnamese (still need to apply for entry permit) and visa if you aren't.[/QUOTE]How to get to Hekou without getting on a long bus ride though? Currently visiting Shenzhen. And is that info about hekou current? (past few months?

Like the hekou idea mainly because some things seem safer in China. Visited another border town about 5 years ago and on China side the raids had already seemingly started happening. So it was a little boring.

The prettier Viet girls were on the China side. There weren't many though. Only one little shop mainly. On the vietnam side there were a lot more, but quality was not so great.

Also how is doson in December? I want to make sure there are plenty of pretty girls there in winter before making the trip there.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. Had read something about girls in Nam Dinh. Any info on that?

[QUOTE=Kenhoang85;2396809]How much for 2 hours? 2 million vnd?[/QUOTE]Actually he said 1.2 million. And he tipped her more than he should have because he doesn't seem to care about preventing scammers from raising prices more than the already overpriced amount.

Seems ridiculous that he bragged about it here in addition to trying to brag to the girl by tipping her that much. As if anybody here would be impressed by a tourist moron trying to ruin the market prices.

Oh, he will likely regret it later though.

Hello,

I will be in Hanoi for a single night in December. Don't really have time to hit up bars.

Is there a good website / outcall service anyone recommends where I can have a girl come to my hotel? Looking for premium escort or model.

Would also appreciate if you can give me an idea of what I should expect to pay.

[QUOTE=SexGod;2396824]How to get to Hekou without getting on a long bus ride though? Currently visiting Shenzhen. And is that info about hekou current? (past few months?

Like the hekou idea mainly because some things seem safer in China. Visited another border town about 5 years ago and on China side the raids had already seemingly started happening. So it was a little boring.

The prettier Viet girls were on the China side. There weren't many though. Only one little shop mainly. On the vietnam side there were a lot more, but quality was not so great.

Also how is doson in December? I want to make sure there are plenty of pretty girls there in winter before making the trip there.

Thanks in advance!

P.S. Had read something about girls in Nam Dinh. Any info on that?[/QUOTE]That place in Nam Dinh is called Quat Lam, it is similar to Do Son that is all girls are fixed price, and the girl comes to your room just like in Do Son. However, Quat Lam is kind of far out of the way, it is quite a hassle for foreigners to get there. Mainly for local customers. Do Son is easier to travel for non-Vietnamese.

Enjoy Vietnam,

[QUOTE=SexGod;2396824]How to get to Hekou without getting on a long bus ride though? Currently visiting Shenzhen. And is that info about hekou current? (past few months?

P.S. Had read something about girls in Nam Dinh. Any info on that?[/QUOTE]That information is for when you go from Vietnam to China, I'm not sure about the other way around. Maybe you can fly from Shenzhen to Wenshan then from there to Hekou to avoid having to take a long bus ride.

Hello my fellow hunters,

I am not so great on posting a report. However I am better at providing information to aid in your hunt. I do hope I have been helpful to some of you from my previous posts in your travels and adventures. I certainly am not the ace of the base. Certain cities I know well and Hanoi maybe I know the best, with well over 180 days hunting the streets of Hanoi meeting many many fair maidens.

Anyways, in the past, Wechat was the place to meet girls in my opinion thru last year. Now very few girls use Wechat. Wechat still works great in China. The Internet Nazis started blocking massage and working girls on Wechat in VietNam is the main reason for its decline. Most Regular Viet girls went to Zalo or Facebook. Of course you still have Spas, Karaoke and all the Knu / Gaigoi internet sites to meet girls. Or go on the hunt at the beer gardens most every night, weekends of course are much better.

IF, You want to hunt girls from the comfort of Your room, use the application LINE. I have posted about how, when and where to use this great connection.

Anyways, LINE has provided to Me more good girls and working girls than any application I have Ever used. You should be able to meet at least 5-10 pretty girls any night and most days in short time. Some good lonely girls, most P4P. Most beautiful girls. Most pictures are real.

My most recent experience was to meet a girl named Linh using LINE from my hotel room in Hoan Khiem. Your location helps in the hunt as to align you with most girls in search that goes by proximity. I recommend Central Park Hotel on Hang Be because it is ground zero for location, it is girl friendly and price is right. No, not the Ritz.

Anyways, I started chat with Linh who was a New massage girl to Hanoi. You will learn most massage girls are players for P4P. Most are recently divorced with with 1 or 2 children, now living with their mother and the girls are on the prowl for work and future opportunities. IE. Find sugar daddy.

Linh was like most every other girl, agreed to meet at hotel for LT 1,500,000 vnd. Started at 2,000,000 and left with 2,000,000 after great service and good GFE. Most everything was offered. Not the most beautiful figure, but, she tried to make up with a very nice and tight pussy and enthusiasm that never stopped. She certainly made me happy happy. I told her that she needed to learn how to do a prostate massage so she could find many customers. She was most interested to learn. She had to leave early next morning as her mother and child were coming to Hanoi for a few days visit. She gave me her number and begged to stay in touch and a repeat.

The next weekend approaches and it appears I may have another hall pass from my GF, as she was going to visit her family way South of Hanoi. Linh had been writing for me to meet her again. I did not want to get another hotel as before and did not want to take her to my apartment on West Lake as she may later start showing up at the wrong times. I asked could we meet at her room, have fun and maybe go eat. She was all OK. So, I quickly showered and dressed and drove to her location. Before I went to her hotel I went to Hang Chieu Street in Hoan Khiem to buy some toys for her to play with. Then, I met her at her place in the middle of back packer heaven and near the beer gardens. Now, another happy afternoon of bliss and great pussy, except the added introduction of a massager. She liked it and I tried to teach her how to use on me, not that I was experienced, but, always wanted to learn about prostate massage. She was a great student.

After finishing up round 1, we decided to go eat, she took me to a great inexpensive restaurant near her room. The food was great, the service was good and the price was right.

Linh then asks if We can go listen to music at a bar just adjacent to the beer gardens. We grabbed a nice bench seat with a great view of the street and on goings. We each had 1 drink when her friend Lan called. Link asked was it OK for Lan to join us for a drink and music. Of course it was OK. Cheap drinks, pretty girls, music what else could I ask for that night? Lan arrives, dressed most beautiful. Lan works same Spa as Linh. After buying another drink each, Linh asked me did I like Lan? I said Lan was fine and A pretty girl. Linh then asked would I like Lan go back to room with US? Hell Yes I think. How can the night be better?

We return to the room and everyone takes a shower. Linh tells me to start with Lan as she looks or plays. I kiss Lan a little then decide missionary was my favorite attack. Next thing I know, Linh decides to practice the prostate massage with toy on me as she gently caresses my balls. Boy what a force multiplier she created. I thought I would blow Lan's head off with my orgasm. I had to rest for a while because they both wanted to continue to play. Linh needed something from the store and I told them both to go and let me rest.

They both returned in 45 minutes to an hour and quickly undressed to get back in the bed with me. Now, I start with Linh kissing and hugging soon to mount and bang her missionary, soon to follow was Lan with the clean toy. Needless to say my staying power was short and after shots fired, I thought they blew my balls off. Great was not the words.

From there We all 3 fell asleep in each others arms to wake in the morning for 1 more round on Lan. Again, the feelings were unforgettable.

I needed to go as my GF was to return to Hanoi in a few hours and I needed to go home and shower good and try and wipe the grin off my face.

By afternoon, both Linh and Lan each are calling wanting me to take them out. I could not.

A week later my GF returned home and Lan came to my apartment, sexual bliss again, but, mistake coming to apartment. Lan stayed 2 days, the visit was great. She is a sweet and beautiful girl, problem, I already have a younger and sweeter girl living with me. In the mean time Linh is writing for me to meet her. Lan sees Linh try to video call me. She gets mad and sends picture of her and me together. Cat fight begins.

Anyways, Both girls treated me great. I gave each 1,500,000 vnd. Lan the next few days gave her 1,000,000 vnd for each day.

Yes, I had Happy endings.

Lan and Linh are no longer friends.

Rainman.

Nice but honestly, if you have a GF, you could have very easily get both of the girls down to like 500 k without much effort and they still would have been extremely happy to milk you (in every way).

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2398356]Hello my fellow hunters,

I am not so great on posting a report. However I am better at providing information to aid in your hunt. I do hope I have been helpful to some of you from my previous posts in your travels and adventures. I certainly am not the ace of the base. Certain cities I know well and Hanoi maybe I know the best, with well over 180 days hunting the streets of Hanoi meeting many many fair maidens.

Anyways, in the past, Wechat was the place to meet girls in my opinion thru last year. Now very few girls use Wechat. Wechat still works great in China. The Internet Nazis started blocking massage and working girls on Wechat in VietNam is the main reason for its decline. Most Regular Viet girls went to Zalo or Facebook. Of course you still have Spas, Karaoke and all the Knu / Gaigoi internet sites to meet girls. Or go on the hunt at the beer gardens most every night, weekends of course are much better.

IF, You want to hunt girls from the comfort of Your room, use the application LINE. I have posted about how, when and where to use this great connection.[/QUOTE]

Dear Binh Thanh,

Yes, I have GF in Hanoi, a beautiful and good girl.

She would not be my GF if I asked her to participate or she knew what was doing.

I do take exception to your comments.

Your idea of prices in Hanoi or any place I know in VietNam is absolutely crazy.

I've been mongering 5 years in Hanoi and other places in VietNam with I would guess about 100 girls. I've never found a girl for ALL night FS charging 500,000 Vnd. The cheapest All night FS I've been offered was 800,000 Vnd.

500,000 Vnd for ST FS charge is most believable.

I think I would hate to see the girl You found for 500,000 VND all night.

1,000,000 Vnd is a low price for all night FS in Hanoi.

2,000,000 Vnd total for 2 girls All night is a Bargain.

Obviously We are hunting different grounds and different girls.

Take me hunting sometime and show me?

Rainman.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2399193]Dear Binh Thanh,

Yes, I have GF in Hanoi, a beautiful and good girl.

She would not be my GF if I asked her to participate or she knew what was doing.

I do take exception to your comments.

Your idea of prices in Hanoi or any place I know in VietNam is absolutely crazy.

I've been mongering 5 years in Hanoi and other places in VietNam with I would guess about 100 girls. I've never found a girl for ALL night FS charging 500,000 Vnd. The cheapest All night FS I've been offered was 800,000 Vnd.

[/QUOTE]I think he misunderstood you. I doubt any girl that looks average and above would be happy to milk you all night for 500.000.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2399477]I think he misunderstood you. I doubt any girl that looks average and above would be happy to milk you all night for 500.000.[/QUOTE]700 k is the average for whole night if you definitely have to pay. And the girls are not super stunners but everyday chicks, like yours in Hanoi. More often than not, I believe at least 60% the case they do whole night without compensation even. But if you definitely want to or have to pay to get pussy, then pay 700 k and no more for whole night. 1. 5 and 2 is super out of this world. You always forget the starting price these chicks quote you are the "lets try the sucker for this much, I am OK to give 50% off anyway."

Too bad very few guys actually have the frame to tell them to fuck off with 1. 5.

[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2399737]700 k is the average for whole night if you definitely have to pay. And the girls are not super stunners but everyday chicks, like yours in Hanoi. More often than not, I believe at least 60% the case they do whole night without compensation even. But if you definitely want to or have to pay to get pussy, then pay 700 k and no more for whole night. 1. 5 and 2 is super out of this world. You always forget the starting price these chicks quote you are the "lets try the sucker for this much, I am OK to give 50% off anyway."

Too bad very few guys actually have the frame to tell them to fuck off with 1. 5.[/QUOTE]This is true. Normally, I get around 5 700 for all night and If I like the service, I give an additional 2 or 300 as tip just to be nice.

Most of time, I get short time around 250 500 and if the mood is right, it goes to all night. In this case, I double it as tip.

1.5,2 mil? Better be a supermodel working hard all night not wasting any sec.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2398356]Hello my fellow hunters,

I am not so great on posting a report. However I am better at providing information to aid in your hunt. I do hope I have been helpful to some of you from my previous posts in your travels and adventures. I certainly am not the ace of the base. Certain cities I know well and Hanoi maybe I know the best, with well over 180 days hunting the streets of Hanoi meeting many many fair maidens.

Anyways, in the past, Wechat was the place to meet girls in my opinion thru last year. Now very few girls use Wechat. Wechat still works great in China. The Internet Nazis started blocking massage and working girls on Wechat in VietNam is the main reason for its decline. Most Regular Viet girls went to Zalo or Facebook. Of course you still have Spas, Karaoke and all the Knu / Gaigoi internet sites to meet girls. Or go on the hunt at the beer gardens most every night, weekends of course are much better.

IF, You want to hunt girls from the comfort of Your room, use the application LINE. I have posted about how, when and where to use this great connection.

Anyways, LINE has provided to Me more good girls and working girls than any application I have Ever used. You should be able to meet at least 5-10 pretty girls any night and most days in short time. Some good lonely girls, most P4P. Most beautiful girls. Most pictures are real.

My most recent experience was to meet a girl named Linh using LINE from my hotel room in Hoan Khiem. Your location helps in the hunt as to align you with most girls in search that goes by proximity. I recommend Central Park Hotel on Hang Be because it is ground zero for location, it is girl friendly and price is right. No, not the Ritz.[/QUOTE]I will be checking Hanoi out for the first time during Christmas, 24th to the 27th. Will look into the hotel you mentioned, Central Park Hotel. Appreciate the clarification on expectations on how much to spend on girls for all-nighters. Will go to Bangkok from 27th to the 2-Jan. , then back through Vietnam. Not sure when I come back through if I should do Hanoi again or fly down to HCMC for my 2nd visit, any recommendations between the two cities in Vietnam.

Again, great post and feel free to send me more information here or by messages.

Tex.

Beware. Fierce Vietnamese ladyboy had invaded Hanoi. Many can be found via people nearby apps. They will not meet you at lobby or accept video call. Even if they accept call, you cannot guarantee is a real girl. You need to meet at lobby only and do not accept them up to your room. Otherwise they will barge in and demand full payment or extortion.

[QUOTE=BinhThanh;2399737]700 k is the average for whole night if you definitely have to pay. And the girls are not super stunners but everyday chicks, like yours in Hanoi. More often than not, I believe at least 60% the case they do whole night without compensation even. But if you definitely want to or have to pay to get pussy, then pay 700 k and no more for whole night. 1. 5 and 2 is super out of this world. You always forget the starting price these chicks quote you are the "lets try the sucker for this much, I am OK to give 50% off anyway."

Too bad very few guys actually have the frame to tell them to fuck off with 1. 5.[/QUOTE]Now, lets hear where would you find girls for this price in Hanoi? Even in Do Son, which is already very cheap, the LT price is already more than 700 K / night.

[QUOTE=Morton219;2353977]Normally, you need to have an ID to register, but the shops usually sell already registered phone sims.[/QUOTE]Hi guys. With pre registered sim, 1) where is best place to go, kiosk around the city? 2) how is service? 2-3 dollars for phone only? Or does it include internet? I heavily relied on internet when I came. My cousin who lives in VN got a pre registered sim for me also but it was just voice. No data. I wasn't aware of it until we popped it in and although cheap. It's hard to trust those kiosk at their word for whatever service you get.

I've used the kiosk at the airport, cause needed service as I walked out the airport. Internet was fast and got unlimited everything for 400 k. But then half way through my trip the data got throttled and I was annoyed as hell. Thinking about doing the prereigstered sim and get new one once the service dies or slows down. Hate getting new numbered though. I was texting girls so new number just throws it out of sync.

VN cracked down on the sale of unregistered sim cards.

Yes, you can still buy a card from some street vendors, but, these are cards someone never used up and sold or stolen.

You can check the remaining time, just call. *101# Or *102# To get balance with sim card installed.

Best thing I have learned after buying street vendor cards, registering thru girl friend etc buying card and finally buy sim card your self. Buy Your self. They are cheap.

Go to Viettel store, ask to buy a sim card and data. Register in your name, they need passport. About $14 for lots of data and minutes for 1 month.

Why? Now easier to setup, Wechat, WhatsApp, Zalo and Line accounts to your phone, your number. If you have someone else's number the phone number will be registered to their accounts under that number. Once this was a benefit to me as this previous guy Dung's friends All started writing me, thinking him. I met a 24 year old divorced with child lonely girl for a while. I chatted few more. Overall, Better start with New card, to your name and setup your own accounts.

Finally why Viettel? Viettel is owned by VietNam military and used by them. They have more cell towers and more coverage of VietNam than any other carrier, result, more service area.

Download Application LINE. Do search friends nearby. You will find lots of pretty girls to chat.

Calling, Best Application I think to use is WhatsApp.

Good Luck!

I am planning a long trip here. Will split the time in Hanoi and HCMC.

I am interested in short term. Massage, nuru with all actions.

I am going through the post to get better understanding.

Suggestions, hotel recommendations, place to visit, or any other info would be helpful.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2412853]VN cracked down on the sale of unregistered sim cards.

Yes, you can still buy a card from some street vendors, but, these are cards someone never used up and sold or stolen.

You can check the remaining time, just call. *101# Or *102# To get balance with sim card installed.

Best thing I have learned after buying street vendor cards, registering thru girl friend etc buying card and finally buy sim card your self. Buy Your self. They are cheap.

Go to Viettel store, ask to buy a sim card and data. Register in your name, they need passport. About $14 for lots of data and minutes for 1 month.

Why? Now easier to setup, Wechat, WhatsApp, Zalo and Line accounts to your phone, your number. If you have someone else's number the phone number will be registered to their accounts under that number. Once this was a benefit to me as this previous guy Dung's friends All started writing me, thinking him. I met a 24 year old divorced with child lonely girl for a while. I chatted few more. Overall, Better start with New card, to your name and setup your own accounts.

Finally why Viettel? Viettel is owned by VietNam military and used by them. They have more cell towers and more coverage of VietNam than any other carrier, result, more service area.

Download Application LINE. Do search friends nearby. You will find lots of pretty girls to chat.

Calling, Best Application I think to use is WhatsApp.

Good Luck![/QUOTE]Good info.

Will buy new sim and start fresh.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2412817]Hi guys. With pre registered sim, 1) where is best place to go, kiosk around the city? 2) how is service? 2-3 dollars for phone only? Or does it include internet? I heavily relied on internet when I came. ...s it out of sync.[/QUOTE]You can buy them from most kiosks around the city or any e-commercial platform. $2-3 is for the SIM only, you still have to top up it. The advantage is you don't have to use your real name to use it. After a few months of use, the network will eventually send messages asking you to confirm your identity, you can verify your identity or throw them away and buy another one.

Viettel is the best network operator in Vietnam. But the data plan they provide is very small. Vietnammobile has the best data plan but the signal is not good. You only get the full signal in big cities.

You should buy a Viettel SIM with your real ID for voice and a pre-registered Vietnammobile SIM for data.

I was in Hanoi with company for a week and had only a limited free time, read 30-60 minutes alone. I went through the options and picked up n*ko nuru massage. I am still surprised by relative ease of doing things, given this is my first visit to the country and its allegedly difficult to monger in Vietnam due to attitude of the gov here. Add to it, I can't speak Vietnamese. I had a local sim and got the whatsapp contact of the massage center, messaged the handler and asked for profiles. He / she sends dozens pics to my mobile and assured no bait / switch. OK then I get grab around midnight, companion asleep and I sneak, and come to the massage center. I am surprised its only a 10 min ride from city center. No dingy suburbs. I enter and couple of mens, in 20's not threatening, in the lobby direct me politely to lift and use their access card for the lift and send me to 4th floor. More men in 20's rush to explain process. I just say I know about them and pick a package. I get directed to a room by another man in 20's. I convey to him, the masseuse of my choice from whatsapp pic. He says she is busy. I pick second choice, she is busy too. Luckily my third choice is available. My third choice has well endowed boobs and ass perfect for massage though a bit old. She hardly speaks English but communication isn't necessary for what we do. Sauna and scrub followed by massage. The massage was good with plenty attention to balls and a'hole. The boob slide get my dick hard. She finishes it with good hard bbj. It costed me 1. 6 VND for 90 min package. I know a lot of you would say its too costly but for foreigner who can sneak for couple of hours it sounded fine. The masseuses were really good looking with hard tits and ass and not milfs in 40's. During my second visit, the same process repeated but I got my second choice. She had one of the sluttiest face in my 15 years of mongering and solid boobs. Totally worth it. I think she was No 45. I just want to put in a report for all the business traveller who can afford only couple of hours and less familiar with vietnam. Though nuru massage are costly, they do serve purpose. The available profiles are good as I had to chance to ogle at their lineup when another customer wanted a show.

[QUOTE=Nazgylg15;2431919]I was in Hanoi with company for a week and had only a limited free time, read 30-60 minutes alone. I went through the options and picked up n*ko nuru massage. I am still surprised by relative ease of doing things, given this is my first visit to the country and its allegedly difficult to monger in Vietnam due to attitude of the gov here. Add to it, I can't speak Vietnamese. I had a local sim and got the whatsapp contact of the massage center, messaged the handler and asked for profiles. He / she sends dozens pics to my mobile and assured no bait / switch. OK then I get grab around midnight, companion asleep and I sneak, and come to the massage center. I am surprised its only a 10 min ride from city center. No dingy suburbs. I enter and couple of mens, in 20's not threatening, in the lobby direct me politely to lift and use their access card for the lift and send me to 4th floor. More men in 20's rush to explain process. I just say I know about them and pick a package. I get directed to a room by another man in 20's. I convey to him, the masseuse of my choice from whatsapp pic. He says she is busy. I pick second choice, she is busy too. Luckily my third choice is available. My third choice has well endowed boobs and ass perfect for massage though a bit old. She hardly speaks English but communication isn't necessary for what we do. Sauna and scrub followed by massage. The massage was good with plenty attention to balls and a'hole. The boob slide get my dick hard. She finishes it with good hard bbj. It costed me 1. 6 VND for 90 min package. I know a lot of you would say its too costly but for foreigner who can sneak for couple of hours it sounded fine. The masseuses were really good looking with hard tits and ass and not milfs in 40's. During my second visit, the same process repeated but I got my second choice. She had one of the sluttiest face in my 15 years of mongering and solid boobs.[/QUOTE]How many shots did you get in one session?

[QUOTE=PoohKeyLover;2433365]How many shots did you get in one session?[/QUOTE]I wasn't there for the shots. I didn't have condoms and I don't think you could get shots there. Usually HJ or CIM. If you have a rapport with the masseuse, then shots could be possible. Most girls don't speak English, so it would be hard to negotiate unless you prefer the hassle of translating things on phone.

I might be having to go to Hanoi soon (once the Covid19 is over) and though I've scrolled through the last 20 pages or of this forum but can't find a good guide for first timer of how to monger in Hanoi. There is a report from 2011 about the different types of bars etc but if someone can summarise the various options I'd be glad. I'm used to German and Swiss FKK clubs. I prefer the most beautiful girls (looks over service) and don't mind paying extra if it can guarantee both. Also, what is the escort scene like?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2438183]I might be having to go to Hanoi soon (once the Covid19 is over) and though I've scrolled through the last 20 pages or of this forum but can't find a good guide for first timer of how to monger in Hanoi. There is a report from 2011 about the different types of bars etc but if someone can summarise the various options I'd be glad. I'm used to German and Swiss FKK clubs. I prefer the most beautiful girls (looks over service) and don't mind paying extra if it can guarantee both. Also, what is the escort scene like?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I would suggest massage shops. They have alleys of shops with girls sitting outside. Give them a try. If you're looking for long-time, you can always use reputable agencies. I usually prefer Tinder when in Hanoi, it has given me best results in Hanoi as compared to rest of se asia.

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2438183]I might be having to go to Hanoi soon (once the Covid19 is over) and though I've scrolled through the last 20 pages or of this forum but can't find a good guide for first timer of how to monger in Hanoi. There is a report from 2011 about the different types of bars etc but if someone can summarise the various options I'd be glad. I'm used to German and Swiss FKK clubs. I prefer the most beautiful girls (looks over service) and don't mind paying extra if it can guarantee both. Also, what is the escort scene like?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]There are several options: simple HJ / BJ, massages with (many) extra's, nuru massages and FS.

For FS you can browse the known websites with in / outcall escorts. You can also try the local chat apps like LINE, WeChat and Zalo. Many girl provide their offers using this type of media.

[QUOTE=NguyetLang;2397080]That place in Nam Dinh is called Quat Lam, it is similar to Do Son that is all girls are fixed price, and the girl comes to your room just like in Do Son. However, Quat Lam is kind of far out of the way, it is quite a hassle for foreigners to get there. Mainly for local customers. Do Son is easier to travel for non-Vietnamese.

Enjoy Vietnam,[/QUOTE]I am Indian tourist traveling to Vietnam for 20 days in Aug. 2020 I am highly impressed by MutantChicken posts girl selection and prices.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1550-Photo-Gallery&p=2440519[/URL]#post2440519.

Please suggest which places are best for mongering?

Hanoi,

Saigon,

Nam Dinh is called Quat Lam.

Please suggest affordable girl friendly hotel, reliable girls profile websites agencies independent girl profile.

Where to get nice looking girls at affordable prices highly appreciate all your kind soul help.

I booked flights to Vietnam on Vietnam Airlines for March but had to cancel due to Coronavirus. Vietnam Airlines refunded 100% within days of my cancel request via email, even with extremely heavy volumes of cancellations. Did not even have to call them to talk to anyone. The money was credited to my credit card in 2 weeks.

My wingmen canceled ANA flights, got docked for 50% cancellation fee, got back only half.

I like Vietnam Air's flight attendants in their long, graceful, colorful silk dresses that show lots of feminine shapes and curves besides the pretty, smiling faces, a feast for the eyes in long flights hehe. I had some training exercises and socializing with Vietnam Air's pilots who are fairly young, but nice, clean, happy, helpful good kids, highly experienced ex Air Force pilots, flying MIGs, old Tupolevs, Illushins, now flying brand-new B777's, B787's and Airbuses on lease. We were hanging out at a bar in Hanoi talking shit. They kept taking turns buying me whiskeys after whiskeys hehe.

With Vietnam Air's excellent customer services, hot, young flight attendants, brand-new airplanes and highly-experienced pilots (or is it the reverse? Tasty food and endless Hanoi, Saigon beers and wines on long flights, I would book flights with them again, even if their prices are slightly higher than competition.

Sorry cannot copy text from LA Times.

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[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2446484]Sorry cannot copy text from LA Times.

[URL]https://enewspaper.latimes.com/desktop/latimes/default.aspx?edid=f764fd6c-ce6c-47aa-b626-9b757c4a382c[/URL][/QUOTE]Let me know if you reschedule your trip, Solo. I might head out there myself. Got a really hot j-bar girl that says she wants to start turning tricks.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2447470]Let me know if you reschedule your trip, Solo. I might head out there myself. Got a really hot j-bar girl that says she wants to start turning tricks.[/QUOTE]Any pics of her?

First, thanks for the tips and reports to all the members that contribute to the forum. Now please, I need your help. I have Line app but can not locate "people nearby" function. I did some google research and it seems the problem is that I have to turn ON Line app at Location Services. But on the list of apps there is no Line, it's just missing. I did some more research and found that it is common problem for people that are using iOS but can't find solution. I try to uninstall the app, then to reboot the phone. Nothing. Any ideas?

One more question. Is Tinder popular in Vietnam? I have some experience traveling the world (Asia & Africa) and so far Tinder is like a gold mine for finding more "adventurous" girls. I was thinking that it will be the same in Vietnam but reading the posts I found reports only for Line.

Cheers,

Onojdi.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;2454983] I need your help. I have Line app but can not locate "people nearby" function. I did some google research and it seems the problem is that I have to turn ON Line app at Location Services. But on the list of apps there is no Line, it's just missing. I did some more research and found that it is common problem for people that are using iOS but can't find solution. I try to uninstall the app, then to reboot the phone. Nothing. Any ideas?.[/QUOTE]That feature is not enabled everywhere. It seems to depend on the country of the app store you download from.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2454996]That feature is not enabled everywhere. It seems to depend on the country of the app store you download from.[/QUOTE]Yeah, you are correct. I just got a message from Line support centre:

People Nearby function is only available in certain countries and regions. Target countries include Cambodia, India, Myanmar, Vietnam, United States, Indonesia, Hong Kong and Macau.

So I will try it when I arrive in Hanoi. Sounds useful. But what about Tinder, I guess it's popular too?

[QUOTE=DavidCohen;2386206]I think it would be 1. Do son. Hard to beat the selections and value of Do Son.[/QUOTE]Hi David, looking to doing the ha giang loop tour and visit Lao Cai since it's closer by. For foreigners, can you still get to the Heoku side or you need a visa to enter. Is the fun the same on the VN side? Is it worth staying in the area for a day or two? Any rec or warnings? Not sure how easy it is to get a Chinese visa or even its worth it. Sounds like interesting place and near where I plan on traveling. Any info helps.

Thansk.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2442835]
With Vietnam Air's excellent customer services, hot, young flight attendants, brand-new airplanes and highly-experienced pilots (or is it the reverse? Tasty food and endless Hanoi, Saigon beers and wines on long flights, I would book flights with them again, even if their prices are slightly higher than competition.[/QUOTE]VN airline is coming to SFO. Curious if you took VN airlines in VN or from US? Would save at least 5 hour traveling time with direct flights to vn rather than layover. Anyone know when that will happen. 20+ travel time from US is a killer.

[QUOTE=Mushuu09;2456542]Hi David, looking to doing the ha giang loop tour and visit Lao Cai since it's closer by. For foreigners, can you still get to the Heoku side or you need a visa to enter. Is the fun the same on the VN side? Is it worth staying in the area for a day or two? Any rec or warnings? Not sure how easy it is to get a Chinese visa or even its worth it. Sounds like interesting place and near where I plan on traveling. Any info helps.

Thansk.[/QUOTE]If I can contribute to this:

Tourists have always needed a visa to enter China. I don't think arranging this will have got any easier.

Last reports I have is that the Hekou scene is kaput.

Lao Cai has never been worth the detour.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2456601]If I can contribute to this:

Tourists have always needed a visa to enter China. I don't think arranging this will have got any easier.

Last reports I have is that the Hekou scene is kaput.

Lao Cai has never been worth the detour.[/QUOTE]Haha black cat, cool name. Thanks for the info. It was a $140 visa to enter China for. One night. Not worth it. I want to do the Ha Giang loop so I was already in the area. So follow up question, is there a Sapa scene. Or how does Lao Cai compare? I saw it.

Mentioned as to bring your own beer type of party but ehh I prefer a buffet but at the very least the cafeteria. Anyone with experience in that north highland region? TIA.

Currently visiting China and been waiting for Vietnam border to open to visit Hanoi and do son.

Been pondering visiting hekou first, because Vietnam opens on July 1.

Was coronavirus the only reason there were maybe not as many girls as usual in hekou recently? Was it because border was closed and so most are waiting until it opens?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2438183]I might be having to go to Hanoi soon (once the Covid19 is over) and though I've scrolled through the last 20 pages or of this forum but can't find a good guide for first timer of how to monger in Hanoi. There is a report from 2011 about the different types of bars etc but if someone can summarise the various options I'd be glad. I'm used to German and Swiss FKK clubs. I prefer the most beautiful girls (looks over service) and don't mind paying extra if it can guarantee both. Also, what is the escort scene like?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You can use Line app near by feature also other websites like kynu, Tim goigai. ,but there are a lot of scams happening online, photos are highly Photoshoped, different girl might come or you may get a lady boy. It is better to call them outside the hotel and verify first. Also there are people on bike which will come to you and ask if you want boom boom. Overall Hanoi is quite dull as compared to HCMC.

MuShuu.

Vietnam Air is not flying direct from SFO or LAX yet. The flight from LAX to SGN was code share with Korean Air with 3 hours lay over in Seoul.

They have been approved fro direct flight in Jan but will need a few months to set up operations besides the CoVid delay. Vietnam Air has bought a couple B787's for this route. The collapse of air travel under CoVid will undoubtedly take a big bite out of their capital budget.

Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo.

With Vietnam Air's excellent customer services, hot, young flight attendants, brand-new airplanes and highly-experienced pilots (or is it the reverse? Tasty food and endless Hanoi, Saigon beers and wines on long flights, I would book flights with them again, even if their prices are slightly higher than competition.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2476507]MuShuu.

Vietnam Air is not flying direct from SFO or LAX yet. The flight from LAX to SGN was code share with Korean Air with 3 hours lay over in Seoul.

They have been approved fro direct flight in Jan but will need a few months to set up operations besides the CoVid delay. Vietnam Air has bought a couple B787's for this route. The collapse of air travel under CoVid will undoubtedly take a big bite out of their capital budget.

Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo.

With Vietnam Air's excellent customer services, hot, young flight attendants, brand-new airplanes and highly-experienced pilots (or is it the reverse? Tasty food and endless Hanoi, Saigon beers and wines on long flights, I would book flights with them again, even if their prices are slightly higher than competition.[/QUOTE]What is the latest to enter Vietnam, is it possible to come and relax for a few days.

Guide me friends what is the latest on ground position any flights available and visa restrictions.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2476573]What is the latest to enter Vietnam, is it possible to come and relax for a few days.

Guide me friends what is the latest on ground position any flights available and visa restrictions.[/QUOTE]As I understand it, still no entry or visas unless you are special worker, business, diplomat etc. And with mandatory 14 day isolation at state sponsored facilities on your dime. 2021 maybe.

The Nang is locked down tight. My friends are staying in the mountains and can't return home w / o 14 days isolation.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2476507]MuShuu.

Vietnam Air is not flying direct from SFO or LAX yet. The flight from LAX to SGN was code share with Korean Air with 3 hours lay over in Seoul.

They have been approved fro direct flight in Jan but will need a few months to set up operations besides the CoVid delay. Vietnam Air has bought a couple B787's for this route. The collapse of air travel under CoVid will undoubtedly take a big bite out of their capital budget.

Quote Originally Posted by CaptainSolo.

With Vietnam Air's excellent customer services, hot, young flight attendants, brand-new airplanes and highly-experienced pilots (or is it the reverse? Tasty food and endless Hanoi, Saigon beers and wines on long flights, I would book flights with them again, even if their prices are slightly higher than competition.[/QUOTE]You are so right. The flight attendants on both VA and KAL are smokin' hot for sure. I flew first class on both. I saw an older 80'ish oriental man get a virtual warm rag sponge bath after dinner on VA.

Too bad they didn't buy 2 Airbuss A350 series.

Alex73.

Vietnam is shut down again after CoVid outbreak in the Nang. All passengers arriving from out of the country must undergo 14-day quarantine. Domestic air passengers from infected areas, like the Nang, have to do 7 days.

Visas have to be applied at consulate prior to departure. Visas on arriving have been very difficult to obtain. Without current visas airlines will deny boarding as they don't want to deal with stranded passengers.

So I must have read 30 pages back in this Hanoi forum, and I have to say how disappointed I am in the state of mongerdom in Hanoi so far. I recently moved here and I figured there would at least be an abundance of happy ending massage parlors for reasonable prices (considering the extremely low cost of living and average monthly wage). But wow. You guys are routinely paying around $50-60 USD for a massage with a jerk off ending by mostly mediocre women in a developing country where most people make like $200-300 a month in wages? Just wow. You must be recent expats.

Obviously, I'll need to look around and go off the beaten path because I certainly won't be paying these prices. By the way I've been an expat for many years- Indonesia, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Russia, etc. Etc. You guys are paying more than in any of these destinations. Makes no sense.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2476720]Alex73.

Vietnam is shut down again after CoVid outbreak in the Nang. All passengers arriving from out of the country must undergo 14-day quarantine. Domestic air passengers from infected areas, like the Nang, have to do 7 days.

Visas have to be applied at consulate prior to departure. Visas on arriving have been very difficult to obtain. Without current visas airlines will deny boarding as they don't want to deal with stranded passengers.[/QUOTE]Vietnam-[URL]visa.com[/URL] is the firm I used to apply for a visa online. I paid for the additional option for fast track processing and to my way of thinking it was well worth the expense to have them get my visa stamped without going through the que myself. I think both the application and fast tracking totaled about $50.00 USD. They offer very professional customer service with excellent English to clarify any questions you may have by e-mail. From the time your application is processed they offer regular updates and reminders about your application along with helpful hints for your trip. If you plan to travel outside the country and return to Vietnam make sure you request the multi entry visa.

While they were arranging to have my visa stamped I bought my SIM card from the kiosk located inside the customs area. I believe it was offered by Viettel. Again they offered very reliable and inexpensive service. I think it was something in the range of $25.00 for thirty days for a 10 gig a day data package. Given that free wifi is offered almost everywhere in Vietnam, it is actually overkill. Packages for sending and receiving texts messages are sold separately and required if you wish to send texts to phone numbers. Skype and other messaging apps will work with a data only package.

A woman I know in Da Nang has been telling me about the atmosphere around the city and country. She and others I have talked to are terrified about the current spread. Vietnamese respect and follow their government's directions and social pressure. Individual rights and freedoms are not open to discussion in situations like a pandemic. I have no doubt in my mind that the Vietnamese government will get this latest outbreak under control in relatively short order. I suspect the general lack of willingness to try to control the pandemic in the U.S, will mean its going to be long long time before Americans will be welcomed back to Vietnam or most other places in Asia for that matter. It's just my thoughts, but those are the differences I feel when comparing a country that stresses individual freedoms to a Communist country, however under normal circumstances you would almost never know you are in a Communist country when you are in Vietnam.

Flu season is coming so be prepared for a long delay before Vietnam is willing to reopen other than to Asian countries with similar records of controlling the virus.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2477145]So I must have read 30 pages back in this Hanoi forum, and I have to say how disappointed I am in the state of mongerdom in Hanoi so far. I recently moved here and I figured there would at least be an abundance of happy ending massage parlors for reasonable prices (considering the extremely low cost of living and average monthly wage). But wow. You guys are routinely paying around $50-60 USD for a massage with a jerk off ending by mostly mediocre women in a developing country where most people make like $200-300 a month in wages? Just wow. You must be recent expats.

Obviously, I'll need to look around and go off the beaten path because I certainly won't be paying these prices. By the way I've been an expat for many years- Indonesia, Venezuela, Colombia, Panama, Russia, etc. Etc. You guys are paying more than in any of these destinations. Makes no sense.[/QUOTE]I don't agree. There are plenty of options to have a massage incl. Extras without paying too much. The going price in decent massage parlours range from VND200 K-VND400 K excl. The tip for the girl. I had FS for as low as VND400-500 K if you know the places.

[QUOTE=Amanut;2477270]Vietnam-[URL]visa.com[/URL] is the firm I used to apply for a visa online. I paid for the additional option for fast track processing and to my way of thinking it was well worth the expense to have them get my visa stamped without going through the que myself. I think both the application and fast tracking totaled about $50.00 USD. They offer very professional customer service with excellent English to clarify any questions you may have by e-mail. From the time your application is processed they offer regular updates and reminders about your application along with helpful hints for your trip. If you plan to travel outside the country and return to Vietnam make sure you request the multi entry visa.

While they were arranging to have my visa stamped I bought my SIM card from the kiosk located inside the customs area. I believe it was offered by Viettel. Again they offered very reliable and inexpensive service. I think it was something in the range of $25.00 for thirty days for a 10 gig a day data package. Given that free wifi is offered almost everywhere in Vietnam, it is actually overkill. Packages for sending and receiving texts messages are sold separately and required if you wish to send texts to phone numbers. Skype and other messaging apps will work with a data only package..[/QUOTE]This information is past or for current scenario my friend.

Have you been in Vietnam now?

Sorry I am a bit confused. No pussy since 2 weeks now in USA closes my brains.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2477773]This information is past or for current scenario my friend.

Have you been in Vietnam now? [/QUOTE]It is based on my last trip to Vietnam in September and October last year.

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2477463]I don't agree. There are plenty of options to have a massage incl. Extras without paying too much. The going price in decent massage parlours range from VND200 K-VND400 K excl. The tip for the girl. I had FS for as low as VND400-500 K if you know the places.[/QUOTE]Thanks for giving me some hope! I recently moved here so I will have to research / explore more.

For the best experience in Hanoi, you should have a close local. Or you can talk to your own guide (if you're traveling) or with your male colleagues where you work. They will give you suggestions that will save you a lot of money. Vietnam has a lot of pretty girls that easily accept foreigners, as long as you have to understand them. LOL.

Since the Hanoi forum is so dead and with such a dearth of actionable information, I though I'd relate an experience I had recently. I won't say the name of the place but will give clues at the end that most will figure out with a little bit of effort. I entered the joint and saw they had a 3 tiered price system. I took the standard sauna, bath, massage deal for 500 dong. I was led to the room, which was pretty nice containing a small sauna (which looked more like a shower), a bath tube, and a massage table. After a few minutes 6 women in their 20's and 30's came into the room and I was told to choose. They were all at least OK ranging on my 10 pt. Scale from 5's to 7's. I choose a perky 7 who called herself (what sounded like) "Tree. " She spoke very little English but was pleasant and playful. I started off in the sauna for 10 minutes while she ran the bath and made up the massage table. She then coaxed me through hand gestures to jump into the bath tub, where she scrubbed me head to toe, paying a disproportionate amount of time on jerking my junk to insure I was good and hard.

After the 15 minute bath, she gestured to me to get out of the bath tube, where she thoroughly dried me off and then I laid on the table, face down. She gave an average 40 minute massage and then told me to turn over. After I did she went right for my shaft and balls to get me hard again while sucking on one of my nipples. I reached over and noticed for the first time that she wasn't wearing shorts or panties under the shirt she was wearing and subsequently enjoyed myself caressing her soft ass cheeks and slightly hairy pussy. She seemed to be wet but I can't confirm whether that was natural or (more likely) had slipped some sort of lubricant in when I wasn't looking. I started fingering her and she moved her ass into to it, seemingly encouraging it. She then asked, "Boom boom?" I countered by making the jerk off motion (since I didn't know how much FS would set me back I wanted to start off with something more conservative). She quickly added some oil to her hand and started to aggressively jerk me off for a few minutes while I continued to explore her nether regions. After finishing, she had me shower and she dried me off again. I didn't have a clue how much I should tip her as tips are all over the place on this forum but I figured another 500 to her should do the trick. She seemed fine with it.

The whole session lasted about 1 hour and 15 minutes and I was reasonably satisfied. For $40 total it was ok but I highly suspect I overpaid with my tip. For a happy ending perhaps she would have been fine with 200 an 500 for FS? The place I went to is named after the national flower of a nation that in 2013 registered 21.3 million cats and dogs living there.

I returned to the same place I described in my post of 9/13/20. Same deal (500 dong package) but this time I picked a reasonably cute girl with glasses who goes by "Ms. An." Her massage wasn't as good as the one last week, however, she did offer me FS on the flip through her translation program. She started at 1500 and quickly went down to 1000. I decided it wasn't worth it so we agreed on the standard happy ending for 500. Not sure if FS is always offered by every girl at this place but I can confirm it's on "Ms. An's" menu at least.

[QUOTE=OngTay;1559083]Maybe what is happening at the Tam Quats is they don't think foreigners can speak Vietnamese, so they just hold up two fingers or say "hai tram", which is a hell of a lot easier than trying to explain 150. Or maybe they charge by the inch so I had to pay more and MutantChicken got it for a lot cheaper LOL. Anyways I'm just reporting what happened when I went to some random places, since that's what most people on here can expect. Just to be an ass, from now on I vow that I'm going to pay 300k to each Tam Quat heheh[/QUOTE]With members like ong tay after being told what is the correct price rather appreciating the intel and keeping the price down by paying the correct price he proceeds to ridicule the messenger and vows to over pay, thus who will share intel now.

Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]Just wow, not daring to speaking for others, but personally from reading your posts I figured out you are the premier mongerer, and thus there was nothing I could tell you or add. After all you scoffed newbies for paying $80 for a HJ, then you go and showed us all by paying $60 all in your first week in Hanoi.

[QUOTE=TomMAffolter;2496095]Just wow, not daring to speaking for others, but personally from reading your posts I figured out you are the premier mongerer, and thus there was nothing I could tell you or add. After all you scoffed newbies for paying $80 for a HJ, then you go and showed us all by paying $60 all in your first week in Hanoi.[/QUOTE]LOL That's just rich! A "premier monger"? You need to find better idols in life. I'm simply a guy who has mongered and shared information about mongering for a long time, all thankfully documented on this website and others. I've subsequently backed it up recently with actual information in several posts right here in the Hanoi forum for your reading pleasure about where to find some P4 P even though I only arrived recently.

What have you contributed? Nothing that I can see except photos where you claim to get cheap sex here in Hanoi. Why even post the photos without context about how to access such talent? Anyone can see photos of naked girls on the internet through a simple Google search so your posts add little value. I guess you just want attention.

You should work on you math skills as well as I paid exactly 1000 (at today's exchange rate USD $43, not $60 like you claimed) for a massage and HJ at a pretty nice spa. Sure, more than I'd like to pay but as I have mentioned, contributions on the Hanoi forum are quite frankly, pathetic in recent years. I hope to change and will continue to help those who want some help navigating the scene.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry that posting pics with actual prices, so that readers can have context as to what they should be paying vs the looks of a certain girl they are negotiating with, isn't deemed of value a premier monger such as yourself.

Sorry I didn't actually do the, math on converting 1 m VND to USD. I understand it takes great intellect to plug in 1000000 into xe dot com, I posted without looking carefully at your valued previous posts, I tried to recall the actual figures, and I failed. My point was that you scoffed at guys paying 60 usd for a HJ, and in your greatness you paid 43 USD, I congratulate you. I am only capable of finding girls to fuck for 15 usd, so I bow to your greater knowledge.

Maybe I got confused with the 60 Usd for the 40 yr old ugly prostitute your greatness managed to find in St Petersburg?

[QUOTE=Zippy;2496043]Since nobody in Hanoi gives any actionable information except pretty photos of naked girls, which means nothing (I'd love to meet these guys in person to see how they are but they are mostly keyboard warriors and legends in their own mind). I guess I will be the lone cowboy who will help the average monger. I've only been here a couple of months but I can say I've found at least a couple of venues to find a little fun for a reasonable price. If you are looking for some P4 P that doesn't involve apps and online wishful thinking, then the best places to frequent are late night clubs. I've been to a few and the best are Birdcage and another place called the "hidden bar" in Tay Ho. Both are places that don't get going until around 1 am and usually have half a dozen or more available girls throughout the night for take out. Helps if you dress decent, are clean, and are decent human beings. Go there and be nice and you'll see groups of 1-3 Vietnamese girls who will do you short-time for USD 20-30.[/QUOTE]I forgot to add, and I do realize it is in no way as good as your contribution, but just as there is a "hidden bar" in tay ho, there is a "secret bar", a "password required bar" and a "secret door bar" where girls are available for sexual interactions.

Premier monger aka Zippy.

I do believe where I post my pics ie in the photo gallery, which from my understanding is not location specific apart from being in vietnam. Just because you are in Hanoi and you think the world revolves around you doesn't mean that people's posts have a connection to you. I also don't recall any ISG rule regarding posting in the photo gallery requiring anything more than actual photos posted. Maybe you can work on your reading skills.

But here just for you a girl I found in Hanoi at today's exchange rate 21.58 usd she 23 and slim I met her 7 mth earlier.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2497278]LOL That's just rich! A "premier monger"? You need to find better idols in life. I'm simply a guy who has mongered and shared information about mongering for a long time, all thankfully documented on this website and others. I've subsequently backed it up recently with actual information in several posts right here in the Hanoi forum for your reading pleasure about where to find some P4 P even though I only arrived recently.

What have you contributed? Nothing that I can see except photos where you claim to get cheap sex here in Hanoi. Why even post the photos without context about how to access such talent? Anyone can see photos of naked girls on the internet through a simple Google search so your posts add little value. I guess you just want attention.

You should work on you math skills as well as I paid exactly 1000 (at today's exchange rate USD $43, not $60 like you claimed) for a massage and HJ at a pretty nice spa. Sure, more than I'd like to pay but as I have mentioned, contributions on the Hanoi forum are quite frankly, pathetic in recent years. I hope to change and will continue to help those who want some help navigating the scene.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the contributions now and hopefully in the future.

Truth is I have been to Hanoi once for 7 days about 5 yrs ago and was so disappointed with the whole hard to find talent scene that I never went back. Hope to change that in the future.

Hey guys,

Thought it would be nice to actually share some information which will guide you directly to some nice spa's worth going. I hope all of you can do the same and share some useful info.

92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum (massage one).

Trung Yen 3, at the corner with Duong Trung Yen 10 (Geisha Spa).

NGO 5 Nguyen Khanh Toan (Blue Spa). There is another one in the same alley. This alley is located parallel from the main street.

NGO 118 Nguyen Khanh Toan (TLT massage).

Phan Van Tri (close to the temple of literature).

Tran Khat Chan (around number 394 in the district Hai Ba Trung).

Have fun and keep sharing!

[QUOTE=Sharka;2515316]Thanks for the contributions now and hopefully in the future.

Truth is I have been to Hanoi once for 7 days about 5 yrs ago and was so disappointed with the whole hard to find talent scene that I never went back. Hope to change that in the future.[/QUOTE]Hoping that I can eventually uncover some hidden gems in Hanoi. I've been busy lately but will post what I uncover.

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2515374]Hey guys,

Thought it would be nice to actually share some information which will guide you directly to some nice spa's worth going. I hope all of you can do the same and share some useful info.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info, OneUw84! I'll check out some of these soon!

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2515374]Hey guys,

Thought it would be nice to actually share some information which will guide you directly to some nice spa's worth going. I hope all of you can do the same and share some useful info.

92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum (massage one).

Trung Yen 3, at the corner with Duong Trung Yen 10 (Geisha Spa).

NGO 5 Nguyen Khanh Toan (Blue Spa). There is another one in the same alley. This alley is located parallel from the main street.

NGO 118 Nguyen Khanh Toan (TLT massage).

Phan Van Tri (close to the temple of literature).

Tran Khat Chan (around number 394 in the district Hai Ba Trung).

Have fun and keep sharing![/QUOTE]Hi,

Can I get full service from these massage shops or are they strictly massage only?

Not looking for jerk off ending either, looking for full service.

I am going to work in Hanoi in Q3 of 2021 in Hanoi. Any advice from fellow mongers in Vietnam? Seems pretty quiet here due to Corona virus.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2517206]Hi,

Can I get full service from these massage shops or are they strictly massage only?

Not looking for jerk off ending either, looking for full service.[/QUOTE]In general it is HJ / BJ. Just ask the girl if she is willing to, and more often than not, she will offer FS outside the parlour. Sometimes FS is available inside.

I am getting ready to go to Vietnam as soon as the quarantine is lifted. Went to a few massage places in Hanoi, including the one at New World hotel, strictly legit, no hanky panky.

I had some of the best sexeperiences with young. Hot girls at a few saunas / business resorts in China. It costed about $200 for a 90-minute session in a luxury suite with sauna and bath at a "business" resort in China, including the company of a girl you can pick among 30,40 on a fashion show catwalk. This girl Xiao Xien was young, sweet, sexy, pampered me in sauna and a huge bed with porno movies playing on a big screen. She got me hard and pop 4 times in 90 minutes. She went to the front desk to collect her 4-pop fees. A line of men and women manager walked by me to see the guy who popped 4 times hehe.

Wishing to find same facilities in Hanoi or HCMC Any suggestions? Thanks.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2556105]I am getting ready to go to Vietnam as soon as the quarantine is lifted. Went to a few massage places in Hanoi, including the one at New World hotel, strictly legit, no hanky panky.

Wishing to find same facilities in Hanoi or HCMC Any suggestions? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Reading your past posts, I for one would have thought you to be the resident expert here.

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2515374]Hey guys,

Thought it would be nice to actually share some information which will guide you directly to some nice spa's worth going. I hope all of you can do the same and share some useful info.

92 Nguy Nhu Kon Tum (massage one).

Trung Yen 3, at the corner with Duong Trung Yen 10 (Geisha Spa).

NGO 5 Nguyen Khanh Toan (Blue Spa). There is another one in the same alley. This alley is located parallel from the main street.

NGO 118 Nguyen Khanh Toan (TLT massage).

Phan Van Tri (close to the temple of literature).

Tran Khat Chan (around number 394 in the district Hai Ba Trung).

Have fun and keep sharing![/QUOTE]Hi.

It would be helpful if you provide how much for the service if possible.

[QUOTE=Rajesh30;2562547]Hi.

It would be helpful if you provide how much for the service if possible.[/QUOTE]In general the access fee is VND400-700 K per hour. This is excluding tip for the girl (depending on you negotiating skills.

EequalSMC.

Commercial sex is widely available to locals in Vietnam, but is still allegedly illegal and heavily persecuted by the authorities when it involves foreigners, just to save face for the party. Wealthy locals have access to semi pros, famous singers beautiful models and movie stars for very steep prices, the proverbial trophy fucks so they can brag to their friends. Wherever I travel, I prefer authentic sexual experiences with typical girls, not high-priced hoes, just like the average mongers. Over a few visits, I had some loving sessions with some of the sweetest and most beautiful girls in Vietnam.

I have access to hot girls in VN with some time and effort, but not luxury resorts where one can go and select the hottest girls among 50-60, get the VIPs' treatment, loved, pampered and seduced by hot girls to pop 4 or 5 times in a session, like what existed in a few cities in China.

Looking forward to upcoming visit when a few local big shots will introduce me to the finest pleasures with the hottest girls in Vietnam, without getting ripped off or black mailed.

Here is the list of Hot, ig tits, great service. Copied from Vietnamese forum and updated by the local here [URL]https://gaigoi.tokyo/[/URL].

Price has been updated to 300 K most places, some still charge 250 K. Over night price starting from 900 K from 2 am-6 am to 1500 K for nice one from 12 am to 6 am. These are the price locals are paying.

The list here has the girl name, and last 3 digits of the phone number of the hotel she lives in. Forum gai goi [URL]https://kynu.vip/[/URL].

Nice face. Cute.

-Tuyết 985-Ngâand 579-Hà 915-Hoàand 569-Tít 301-Diệp 555-Hà 370-Phư417;ng 002.

-Hằng 002-Trang 686-Hiềand 301-yến 166.

-Trang 434-Phư417;ng Ú Òa 907-Trang 907-Linh 569-Thảo 617-Mai 872-Miêand 083.

-Thư417;ng 930-Giang 930.

-Uyên 682-Thảo 682-Xuâand 002-yến 642-Quỳnh 301-My 301.

-Thủwhy 750-Thủwhy 868.

-Quỳnh Anh 370-Lan 985-Linh 094.

-Hư417;ng 894.

-Phư417;ng 985. 18-20.

-Hà 532-Vy 301-Hà 907-My 907-whyếand 907 (nhà Vạand LợI) -Thủwhy beé 569-Hậyou 569-Mai 821-Ngọc169-Lan 569.

U20 đ7871;and U25.

-Ngọsee 555-Huế 930-Ngọsee 566.

Nice body.

-Thuý 532--Nhi beé 566.

Great Service.

-Tít 301-Thảo 301-Thủwhy 569-Quỳnh 555-Thư417;ng 930-Giang 930-Hồng 916-Hồng 560.

Best service.

-Lan 532-My 639-Xuâand 750 (tốI) -Phư417;ng 740-Thảo 740-Ngọsee 002.

Big tits.

-Vâand 301.

Tall over 1 m65.

-Tít 301-Hoàand 569-HoàI 434-Trang 915-Ly 555.

WeChat was the Gold standard to meet girls in China & VietNam until about 2017, then, WeChat started weeding out profiles for working girls / massage. Massage hotel is normally a nice way to say sex hotel for right price aka extras.

Line gained acceptance in VietNam specifically after the stricter rules were enforced by WeChat.

I've made 6 trips to Vietnam between 2015-2020 each for about 3 months, only 1 time did a different girl appear from contact / negotiations than what was represented in the conversation. Note, ask for them to send a current picture because the picture for profile many times can be different.

Search for persons nearby, who meet your parameters and send a Hello,. Most of the girls online are players. Not once did I ever get a mamasan. The girl you chat with is the girl you are negotiating to meet. If they say massage Only, my experience says bull, they are players once they show up.

Only 1 time did I ever experience a no show.

Almost every girl has at least 1 child and broken marriage leaving them to support child and many times family.

Most are sweet, lonely girls looking for a dream come true or at least short term. Not hard core workers.

Most girls are amendable to LT / overnight.

IF, you are wanting short time, little to No negotiations, go to internet sites.

Straight forward, pretty cheap short term. Yes, many times switch and bait meet short term hotel.

IE.

[URL]https://donggai.xyz/khu-vuc/ha-noi[/URL]

Good hunting.

Rainman.

Rainman.

Wechat girls are some of the crudest, most hardened and mercenary humans on earth.

Websites girls are some of the prettiest and sweetest, but they target locals, not foreigners. They can be persuaded.

Hi guys,

Currently in Hanoi for work, any updates of what is going on?

Places to go (sauna, cbars to pick up)?

Recommend escorts?

Many thanks for your help, this is my first time in VietNam.

Hey guys,

I want to know if the Fortuna Hotel and Hanoi Hotel bars are open for business?

Last time I went long time back, it's been years.

Are these two iconic spots still functional post COVID?

I want to know Lo Cai new sex place.

Because the old place at already no have so much girl.

Any one know the new sex place in 2022? I know there are more then 80 girls here, but I don't know where, I will go next month to find it.

I have a question for those of you who use Tinder, Insta, Facebook and so one. In other words. Looking online for freelancers. Can you describe briefly what is the online situation in Hanoi? Is there many girls looking for some fun with financial benefits?

I do this in every place that I visit and so far excluding Cuba, it was always great fun. And I had pretty good success finding really attractive freelancers with whom I spent the night, or even the next few days toghether if we click.

I am totally not interested in visiting those barber shop kind of places or massage parlors. Tried them few years ago when I was unexperienced Monger but now I'm looking for a quality which I found only with freelancers. Kind of escort thing. Going to bars, tourist places, just hanging around kind of things. Maybe coming with me in Ha Long for the weekend kind of things. Banging in some strange room and then go back is not my kind of fun. Not jugging or something like else. It's just not my kind of thing.

So please, any of you who have my taste of fun, can you please share your experience in Hanoi? Is there a nice choice of girls online or it's hard in that regards in Hanoi?

BKKDog,

I visit Hanoi frequently but it's a tough mongering place in my experience. Saigon is a little better. 100% of my experiences are from KTV bar with a group of Vietnamese friends. Her the girls are lots of fun. There are many to choose from and most will return to your hotel with you after sometime in the KTV. In the private rooms with your friends and drinks the girls can get very active. If you tip them 500,000 ($22) they will usually get pretty close to naked and will allow extensive groping and even fingering. The Saigon KTV girls won't do that.

[URL]http://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

These are all 18-24 year old and very attractive: 7-9's. I have taken home a couple but I don't know the price because the host paid for me. But I've been told they are 2 - 4 million ($90-$180) for overnight. I also don't know the price of the KTV, but if you PM me I can give the location. I would think you could just take a small room for yourself and order some booze and party with 2-3 girls before picking one and returning to your hotel. It won't be cheap, but the quality will be very good. Once you meet the girls you would be able to set up appointments outside of the KTV during the daytime.

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I've never done it in Hanoi but I have many times down in Ha Noi. Just go to the site (my go-to is.

[URL]https://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi//[/URL]) and find a girl you like and text her something like "Chao them" she should reply with the name of a hotel and address. Go there, get a room for 1 or 2 hours then text the girls your room number. That's it! She will show up within minutes ready to fuck!

I will be going to Hanoi in couple of weeks. Could you please share the KTV details like name, location etc.

Tia.
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[QUOTE=RayLotr2;2710155]BKKDog,

I visit Hanoi frequently but it's a tough mongering place in my experience. Saigon is a little better. 100% of my experiences are from KTV bar with a group of Vietnamese friends. Her the girls are lots of fun. There are many to choose from and most will return to your hotel with you after sometime in the KTV. In the private rooms with your friends and drinks the girls can get very active. If you tip them 500,000 ($22) they will usually get pretty close to naked and will allow extensive groping and even fingering. The Saigon KTV girls won't do that.

[URL]http://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

These are all 18-24 year old and very attractive: 7-9's. I have taken home a couple but I don't know the price because the host paid for me. But I've been told they are 2 - 4 million ($90-$180) for overnight. I also don't know the price of the KTV, but if you PM me I can give the location. I would think you could just take a small room for yourself and order some booze and party with 2-3 girls before picking one and returning to your hotel. It won't be cheap, but the quality will be very good. Once you meet the girls you would be able to set up appointments outside of the KTV during the daytime.[/QUOTE]

Links given in this pist says access denied. How do I get access to this?

[QUOTE=Gaigoi;2576525]Here is the list of Hot, ig tits, great service. Copied from Vietnamese forum and updated by the local here [URL]https://gaigoi.tokyo/[/URL].

Price has been updated to 300 K most places, some still charge 250 K. Over night price starting from 900 K from 2 am-6 am to 1500 K for nice one from 12 am to 6 am. These are the price locals are paying.

The list here has the girl name, and last 3 digits of the phone number of the hotel she lives in. Forum gai goi [URL]https://kynu.vip/[/URL]..[/QUOTE]

I owe it to this forum. I'the asked for advice here on the open forum and I am grateful to a few who contacted me on PM and gave me their recommendations for my trip. It was my first trip to Vietnam and I did commit a few mistakes as anyone would but learned a lot. I simply booked a flight to Hanoi and went with an open mind, without any plan as to what to do, what and where to explore.

I spent 6 days in Hanoi. In fact 7 nights to be precise. My flight landed late at night and I checked in around 12.30 am. I was in touch with a local girl from Hanoi; recommended by a friend. It was really great of him to share the contact and recommend my name to her and vice versa. I am obliged to him. My first mistake that I cancelled my hotel booking near Haon Kiem lake area right in the middle of action and booked a property in Hang Bong, around 1. 5 kilometer from the lake said by the girl. Paid 100 USD extra on my previous booking. That girl asked me 200 USD to spend the night. I was taken aback as my friend had guided me on her financial expectations. She got bitter and I simply did not respond to the chat after that. Ended up paying a lot of taxi money to the lake area as I used to go every evening and spend my time at a coffee shop viz The Note Coffee. Awesome location and fantastic coffee. Must visit. Lesson learnt; always heed the advice of veterans here and not of Pussy which I did. It was not the cab fare which pinched me but taxi drivers did not want to go on meter's as it was a very short distance. I couldn't walk much owing to leg pain. Grab and Wechat apps were not downloading on my Samsung Android phone. Don't know why? Communication in English is also a pain and used Google Translate to the max.

Met 5 girls all through Line App. Asking rate is 1. 5 million short time. I paid 1. 20 million to 3 girls and 1. 5 million to 2. I am not ashamed to admit that my 2 experiences with 1. 20 million girls were awesome and the best ones of the trip. One was total crap wherein I was cribbing and blaming myself, the last one as wanted to meet one final chick before my departure. One chick I met was actually an agent on Line which the girl said is her boss. No regret as the chick was very beautiful and hot. My deal was 1. 5 million and over that she politely requested for 100000 dong cab fare. I told her make me happy, I'll give you. I had a CIM from her.

I was connected with 4 to 5 girls from seeking arrangements. It's shite in Hanoi. Same drama as in everywhere. Some of their excuses. We are busy in work now, later. We will meet on weekend; we will meet on coffee date and then go with the flow, meet at 9 am as I have to work from 4 pm to 2 am. Fuck you bitches, I don't have the time for this bull shit in 6 days. I got to know SA works well in HCMC.

Tinder and Bumble; got a lot of matches. Met one 42 year old lady for 3 hours. She is a teacher of Japanese Language in University. I wanted to kill my time and we spent 2 hours chatting at Highlands Coffee. I proposed private time, she said not that type. Diverted the topic and went to Giangs coffee for Egg coffee. It is a 1946 establishment and very famous in Hanoi. Said Bye to her. She was typical MILF and very beautiful. Total 3 hours spent with her and good time pass.

5 nights I went to clubs in different areas. Had my Beers and enjoyed for a couple of hours till 2/3 am. Didn't pick up anyone as I am not a night time guy. I need my couple of hours of sleep and cannot share my room and bathroom with anyone. Need my privacy and peace of mind. They were fun nights.

Day time I was connected with my office till 3 PM. Post that couple of hours at Lake side area for coffee, one body or a foot massage at a spa close to my hotel, strolling and ice cream in night at Lake. In between a one-time session with a girl and my day and night was sorted. I wouldn't rate it as one of my best mongering trips but I am not disappointed too. Not super ecstatic but I'm more than happy that I went and ticked off one city on my list. I will go again when I get an opportunity or will combine it with Saigon and better planning. No regrets at all. Many thanks to guys who gave me valuable tips before the start of my Hanoi trip.

Regards.

Arrived in Hanoi (very clean and gentlemanly White male, so NE Asian guys should be comfortable replying) and been working on arranging gai goi services.

Any here can advise why the Viettel phone number I bought at airport seemingly can't message some viet phone numbers?

Also planning a trip to Do Son beach. Maybe wait until cooler weather though. Would like to figure out how to get there without sweating.

Thanks in advance for answers and advice! I can post reports after there is a wonderful experience worth mentioning.

[URL]https://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

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[URL]https://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

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[URL]https://chogai.net/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

Hello guys, I will be in hanoi in August for 10 days planning to relax see the place a bit and plow through as many hot girls as possible.

Can someone suggest a good area to look for decent hotel / airbnb so that I can bring the girls back.

I see rates ranging from 300 k to 1. 2 mil for ST and 1 mil to 5 mil for LT. What are current rates?

Is it possible to find 2 girls who will agree for a threesome?

I am getting a lot of matches on tinder and bumble is it worth trying out those avenues or is that something only possible for people who stay long.

Any advice is welcome.

Thanks in advance guys.

The phone plan you got at the airport doesn't include text package. Every sms costs few hundreds VND. You need to reload first. You can also purchase sms package online if you text a lot.

[QUOTE=SexGod;2721167]Any here can advise why the Viettel phone number I bought at airport seemingly can't message some viet phone numbers?[/QUOTE]

Can you share how to meet girls with Line?

[QUOTE=DevSagar;2721036]Met 5 girls all through Line App. Asking rate is 1. 5 million short time. I paid 1. 20 million to 3 girls and 1. 5 million to 2. I am not ashamed to admit that my 2 experiences with 1. 20 million girls were awesome and the best ones of the trip. One was total crap wherein I was cribbing and blaming myself, the last one as wanted to meet one final chick before my departure. One chick I met was actually an agent on Line which the girl said is her boss. No regret as the chick was very beautiful and hot. My deal was 1. 5 million and over that she politely requested for 100000 dong cab fare. I told her make me happy, I'll give you. I had a CIM from her.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

Staying in Hanoi for couple of days. Any pointers for getting girls to the hotel room for short term or overnight stay.

Cheers,

[QUOTE=Kirahell2;2721828]Hello guys, I will be in hanoi in August for 10 days planning to relax see the place a bit and plow through as many hot girls as possible.

Can someone suggest a good area to look for decent hotel / airbnb so that I can bring the girls back.

I see rates ranging from 300 k to 1. 2 mil for ST and 1 mil to 5 mil for LT. What are current rates?

Is it possible to find 2 girls who will agree for a threesome?

I am getting a lot of matches on tinder and bumble is it worth trying out those avenues or is that something only possible for people who stay long.

Any advice is welcome.

Thanks in advance guys.[/QUOTE]Same here, looking to find quality girls for overnight or ST stay at hotel.

[QUOTE=DannyH;2723443]The phone plan you got at the airport doesn't include text package. Every sms costs few hundreds VND. You need to reload first. You can also purchase sms package online if you text a lot.[/QUOTE]Saw now. Thanks for explaining about that. Seems weird that some Viet phone numbers can't be messaged from a Viettel phone card, while other Viet phone numbers can be messaged. Maybe it's only Viettel customers that can be messaged?

Also, noticed that some gai goi phone numbers and some profiles on social apps that look like freelancers have phone numbers listed that are a number too short for a correct viet phone number. Any here know why that would be and how to resolve that?

Thanks in advance!

Sure Danny, just download Line app. There's a feature; people nearby. Click on the pics you like. Mind you they are all fake but anyways do it. They will revert with a simple message do you want sex.

Ask their pics, negotiate and you're good to go.

Do not have high expectations. Out of 5, mine 2 were very good, 2 were average and 1 was absolutely shite.

Regards.

[QUOTE=DannyH;2723448]Can you share how to meet girls with Line?[/QUOTE]

Hello brothers.

I am from California.

I am visiting hanoi for a week. Could any kind soul suggest me with some contacts of girls whom I can talk to directly. Or if you suggest any good massage parlours or KTV's. Please help out a fellow brother.

My PM is open.

Looking forward for some positive response.

TLDR. Friendly and sexy Vietnamese girl gives Westerner great body-to-body nuru massage with happy ending.

Hot Japanese girls covering their naked bodies with Nuru massage oil. Their asses and tits glisten and become slippery. They grind their privates against yours in wonderful ecstasy. After watching so many JAV girls doing this, I had to try it for myself.

I searched the big G for "Nuru Massage Hanoi" and Neko Massage popped up. Logan wrote a detailed review of it in the SMF in 2019.

[URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/neko-massage-review-with-pictures-nuru-massage-hanoi-vietnam.254/[/URL]

Neko Massage has 2 locations. I tried the one at So 29 because it was closer to my hotel. It's located in a huge office building. The top floor has a small nightclub. Their music can be heard while you're in Neko. There's also an outdoor rooftop cafe with a view of the city. People are just drinking coffee and chatting while all sorts of debauchery takes place just a few floors below.

I messaged Neko on Zalo beforehand. They sent me the menu. I chose the King Room for 1,900,000 VND (90 minutes). That includes the tip. The King Room will get you a private room, a sauna, bath together with the girl of your choice, body-to-body nuru massage and a happy ending.

The first 3 girls they brought to the room were too rough around the edges for me. They didn't have the body type I'm looking for. I said to bring more but they only brought 2. I went on a Friday night so I guess the other girls were busy. One of them was the same as the first 3. But it didn't matter because the other girl was a stunner. She had the face and the body type I was looking for. Slim with a great ass. Her tits were a little more than a handful. Her name is Tien.

Tien and I chatted while she prepared the room. I thought she wasn't wearing any panties as she bent over to fill the tub. She was wearing a skin tight maroon dress which showed off her legs. Later I found out she was wearing lacy, red panties. Tien's English was pretty bad but she was savvy with using Google Translate. She cozied up to me on the bed and didn't mind if I caressed her thighs or ass. We got naked in the tub together after she politely undressed me. In the tub she washed me down. She soapily stroked my cock and took it in her mouth. I asked Tien to see her ass and she turned around, bent over and shook it inches from my face. I'm an ass guy and for me this was incredible. Then we moved to the sauna and I got to see more of her fantastic body. Tien's attitude was friendly, playful and sexy. After the sauna we got on the circular bed. The ceiling had a mirror which was a plus. She gave me a teasing massage. Then she proceeded to cover me in nuru. She rubbed her tits against my back. Then she smooshed her slippery ass against my chest. I wish the nuru part lasted longer. She interlaced her fingers and slid her hands up and down over my cock. She told me this move is like "boom, boom" (slang for fucking). The happy ending part was a mixture of a handjob and blowjob (no condom). She let me finger her and rub her pussy as much as I wanted to. In fact, she kept pushing my hand down there so I would play with her more. This was what sent me over the edge and I blasted into her hand. I didn't ask if I could cum in her mouth but she would probably be down for that. She did say 2 shots (for an extra 400,000) are available but I didn't try. What I liked the most about Tien was her friendly attitude (and her assets of course). She was really playful and definitely knew how to take care of me. This was my first time at Neko and probably not my last.

Attached is the menu they sent me on Zalo.

[QUOTE=GoldenGorilla;2728991]TLDR. Friendly and sexy Vietnamese girl gives Westerner great body-to-body nuru massage with happy ending.

Hot Japanese girls covering their naked bodies with Nuru massage oil. Their asses and tits glisten and become slippery. They grind their privates against yours in wonderful ecstasy. After watching so many JAV girls doing this, I had to try it for myself.

I searched the big G for "Nuru Massage Hanoi" and Neko Massage popped up. Logan wrote a detailed review of it in the SMF in 2019.

[URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/neko-massage-review-with-pictures-nuru-massage-hanoi-vietnam.254/[/URL]

Neko Massage has 2 locations. I tried the one at So 29 because it was closer to my hotel. It's located in a huge office building. The top floor has a small nightclub. Their music can be heard while you're in Neko. There's also an outdoor rooftop cafe with a view of the city. People are just drinking coffee and chatting while all sorts of debauchery takes place just a few floors below.

I messaged Neko on Zalo beforehand. They sent me the menu. I chose the King Room for 1,900,000 VND (90 minutes). That includes the tip. The King Room will get you a private room, a sauna, bath together with the girl of your choice, body-to-body nuru massage and a happy ending.

The first 3 girls they brought to the room were too rough around the edges for me. They didn't have the body type I'm looking for. I said to bring more but they only brought 2. I went on a Friday night so I guess the other girls were busy. One of them was the same as the first 3. But it didn't matter because the other girl was a stunner. She had the face and the body type I was looking for. Slim with a great ass. Her tits were a little more than a handful. Her name is Tien.

Tien and I chatted while she prepared the room. I thought she wasn't wearing any panties as she bent over to fill the tub. She was wearing a skin tight maroon dress which showed off her legs. Later I found out she was wearing lacy, red panties. Tien's English was pretty bad but she was savvy with using Google Translate. She cozied up to me on the bed and didn't mind if I caressed her thighs or ass. We got naked in the tub together after she politely undressed me. In the tub she washed me down. She soapily stroked my cock and took it in her mouth. I asked Tien to see her ass and she turned around, bent over and shook it inches from my face. I'm an ass guy and for me this was incredible. Then we moved to the sauna and I got to see more of her fantastic body.[/QUOTE]CIM or COF is not usually available at Neko. I visited neko twice last week. With the help of Google translate, asked for CIM / COF both times. Both girls refused. Performed 80-90 percent handjob and 10-20 percent blowjob. For the same amount of money, one can get 3 CIM blowjobs in HCMC hot tocs. Although nuru massage itself was great and worth once in a while.

I'll be arriving in Hanoi next week. Are there any difficulties in getting a Grab or Bolt in the Hanoi airport? Is there a specific location I need to go to get a ride? I want to avoid riding a taxi at all costs.

Sinful,

I replied to you but post did not show up. There are all kinds of transport from the airport to downtown Hanoi. I used UBER all the time, no problem.

Check out these sites or google GAI GOI. Lots of hot girls in Hanoi and Saigon work online for $20-50ST, prettier, fresher, cleaner than Thailand. Pick the girls and make appointments. Anyone you like you can arrange for all nights or multiple day dates.

Let us know how it goes.

[URL]KYNUVIET.NET[/URL]

[URL]DONGGAI.INFO[/URL]

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2734994]I'll be arriving in Hanoi next week. Are there any difficulties in getting a Grab or Bolt in the Hanoi airport? Is there a specific location I need to go to get a ride? I want to avoid riding a taxi at all costs.[/QUOTE]I had no problems getting a vina cab from the airport. Well, aside from the language barrier, I just showed the driver my hotel info and he was good to go. Grab was also readily available but I like vina cabs in VN. But yea, just exit the baggage claim, and you'll see all the cabs lined up, while there you can call a grab. Tons are are camped out near by and arrive in a few minutes.

[QUOTE=Ricky3234;2728848]Hello brothers.

I am from California.

I am visiting hanoi for a week. Could any kind soul suggest me with some contacts of girls whom I can talk to directly. Or if you suggest any good massage parlours or KTV's. Please help out a fellow brother.

My PM is open.

Looking forward for some positive response.[/QUOTE]I still have a touts number from Hanoi that was solliddddddd (drove me back to my hotel at 5 am when I was drunk as a skunk on scooter (I'm a fat Fuck) after a BBBJ from one of his ladies at a MP), this was days before the pandy. I'm happy to give you his info but not sure if its still active. Lmk.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2734994]I'll be arriving in Hanoi next week. Are there any difficulties in getting a Grab or Bolt in the Hanoi airport? Is there a specific location I need to go to get a ride? I want to avoid riding a taxi at all costs.[/QUOTE]No issues at all, just exit after baggage claim and you will see can pickup area. Or you can also book from various Taxi outlets near the exit and they will help you with all directions. I have a number of a solid guy who does airport transfers to the city, his rate is around 3-4 M VND. PM me if you want his digits.

Hello folks, visiting from the USA and big sucker for CIM. Can someone share the best ways of getting one in Hanoi?

Are there BJ bars in Hanoi like in Thailand?

Any pointers please?

[QUOTE=MoskvaDesi;2738264]No issues at all, just exit after baggage claim and you will see can pickup area. Or you can also book from various Taxi outlets near the exit and they will help you with all directions. I have a number of a solid guy who does airport transfers to the city, his rate is around 3-4 M VND. PM me if you want his digits.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I ended up finding a bus from the airport to Old Quarter for 50,000 VND. Then walked about 10 minutes to my hotel (Lavender Central). I think Grab would only cost about 350,000 VND, too.

[B]Currency Exchange[/B]
Check out some of the shops selling gold. Some have amazing exchange rates. The shop I went to (I'll find and post the shop info later) had an exchange rate of 23,500 VND to $1, which is actually higher than the standard exchange rate! It was a happy surprise.

I arrived late night Tuesday. Had some drama with Airbnb and had to book a night at a hotel instead. Walked around Old Quarter for a bit. Checked out a couple FS massage shops, guided by some touts. But didn't see what I liked and called it a night.

The next night, I was determined to get laid. I was contacted via Line (nearby people). The girl didn't want to video chat, but sent some very cute pictures. I knew she probably wouldn't be the girl in the photos. The agreed upon price was 1,300,000 VND. She showed up to my hotel at about 5:30 PM. She got through the lobby without issues and showed up at my room. I was disappointed with her looks, but I knew it was a possibility, even likely, that she'd look nothing like her pics. I'd put her at a 6 for looks. But very fuckable. She had a nice smile and a good personality. She was pretty tall (about 5'6" or 5'7") and had a bit of a tummy. Nothing too bad, though. I'd already washed, so she took her quick shower.

I got ready and laid on the bed naked. She came back out with a towel wrapped around her. I made sure we'd have sex about the covers in case any bodily fluids leaked. I didn't want to sleep on them. Of course, if she was a squirter, I'd be in trouble. Fortunately she wasn't.

She started by sucking on my nipples then worked down for a BBBJ. It was OK with decent amount of suction. Not too deep, but I did give her a helping hand to go deeper. I brought her up for some LFK (very light tongue) while she played with my shaft. She then reached over to get a cover. I told her I didn't want one. She held 2 fingers up, and I thought she said it'd be 200,000 VND more for BBFS. But just to make sure, I typed it out. She looked surprised and told me it'd be 2,000,000 VND for BBFS. I declined and said OK to the condom.

With all this negotiation, I'd started to get soft. So we started making out again and she got me hard relatively fast, then applied the cover. She asked for me to get on top so we started in MISH. She seemed to get really into it and closed her legs. It felt really good and tight. I needed to slow down to make sure I didn't pop too soon. After a while, we switched to doggy. This felt amazing as well. And after a few minutes, I came inside the cover.

Afterwards, we talked (via google translate, she spoke no English) for a little bit. She said her friend makes appointments for her. I showed her the pics her friend sent me and she laughed. She said if I want to fuck a girl like that, I'd need to pay 40,000,000 VND. I said no thanks. I gave her the 1300000 VND and she left.

All in all, I know I overpaid. But I needed to get laid and there's not a lot of info for getting FS in Hanoi. I checked out Gai Goi and KYNU. But it seems a lot of time and effort is required to book a girl as lots are unresponsive and you got to converse in Vietnamese, translating everything via Google translate. I wouldn't have minded paying her 800,000 VND. For my first outcall escort experience, I'd say it was worth paying $55, if nothing else for the learning experience.

I'll be checking out Neko Nuru massage tonight (based on another review [URL]https://singlemanforum.com/t/neko-massage-review-with-pictures-nuru-massage-hanoi-vietnam.254/[/URL]) and will post my experience later.

Sinful,

Line and Wechat women are some of the oldest, ugliest and most hardened species in Vietnam. They are all trained to do the exact routine of sucking nipples, cow girl then a quick roll over for mish. I would avoid them even if they pay me.

I guess your Kim Jong Un's hair cut and heavy accent are not helping you.

Try to work the sites you mentioned. You will find some of the prettiest, sweetest young girls who will give you passion and sweet love.

I arrived late night Tuesday. Had some drama with Airbnb and had to book a night at a hotel instead. Walked around Old Quarter for a bit. Checked out a couple FS massage shops, guided by some touts. But didn't see what I liked and called it a night.

Do you know why I can't send any message with my mobile? My operator is viettel. Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2738936]Sinful,

Line and Wechat women are some of the oldest, ugliest and most hardened species in Vietnam. They are all trained to do the exact routine of sucking nipples, cow girl then a quick roll over for mish. I would avoid them even if they pay me.

I guess your Kim Jong Un's hair cut and heavy accent are not helping you.

Try to work the sites you mentioned. You will find some of the prettiest, sweetest young girls who will give you passion and sweet love.

I arrived late night Tuesday. Had some drama with Airbnb and had to book a night at a hotel instead. Walked around Old Quarter for a bit. Checked out a couple FS massage shops, guided by some touts. But didn't see what I liked and called it a night.[/QUOTE]Have you ever heard your own accent?? Hahaha. You crack me up.

I tried texting a couple numbers on chogai. But I got no responses. So I didn't pursue further. I only have 3 more nights here in Hanoi before heading down to HCMC. In the meantime, I did hit up Neko Nuru. So I wasn't too desperate to try the online sites again.

The problem with the online sites is the need to use google translate for everything. I had an easier time using FiwFans in Thailand. It seems they (VN escort sites) only book in Vietnamese. So this may come easier for someone like you. But for most of us, it requires a lot more effort. I'll probably try it one more time. But between having some other options (I. E. KTV, Massage shops) and my short stay, I don't know if it's really worth it. Especially since you're going in blind.

[QUOTE=Jonathan1356;2739146]Do you know why I can't send any message with my mobile? My operator is viettel. Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]Your Viettel line only includes data and calls to Viettel numbers. If you want to text or call, you need to recharge your line by adding credit. The only way I know of how to do that is by going to a Viettel store (or other stores that sell Viettel subscription) and giving them money to charge your line with credit. You can also check how much credit you have by dialing *101# + send.

I decided to check out Neko Nuru based on SMF (singlemanforum) posts after a disappointing encounter via Line. I got to Neko at around 7 PM. Entered the OCD building where I was escorted to the elevator and taken to the 4th floor. In the lobby, I told them I wanted the 600 (60 min) + 600 tip + 150 extra tip (shared bath). I asked if I could take a look at the line up, which I thought they'd have via a tablet. But I was told that they don't do that anymore. Instead, she told me that I'd have to wait inside the room while they bring the girls out.

So they took me into the room. The room had a nice theécor to it. Pretty wide massage table, steam sauna / shower, and a bathtub. I sat on the table as they brought out the first of the lineup. 3 girls who were all non starters for me, so I declined. The second group were just 2 girls (#01 and #168). 01 was cute, but looked slightly chubby and overly smiley. So I chose 168. She was a bit shorter and had very light skin. Her looks were about a 7 for me. I was honestly a bit disappointed with their selection after reading SMF reviews. But maybe I should've waited for a few more lineups.

168 turned on the steam sauna while she exited briefly to get ready. I was in there for about 10 minutes. I did feel a bit uneasy not being able to see my belongings while in the sauna. After 10 minutes, she took me to the bubble bath. As she lathers me up and shampoos my hair, I caress the inside of her thigh and start playing with her pussy. She then joins me in the bathtub. I thought there would be some B2 B foreplay here. But it was just her joining the bathtub while she gave me a thorough wash. When we finished with the bath, she had me lay face down on the massage table. She started with an OK massage, good amount of pressure. As she worked up to my back, I could feel her bare pussy rubbing against my calves. After a few minutes of this, she got the nuru gel, applied it on my legs and started gliding on it with her tits. I was a bit surprised at how cold it was. I also felt something very warm above the cold nuru being applied. I thought it was a hot stick of some sort. But it turned out to be her tongue and mouth. She spends a good amount of time using the hot nuru for rimming and reaches down under simultaneously for a nuru HJ. Then, she glides up and rubs her titties all over my back. I turn over and she basically does the same on the flip, except she adds some very hot (thanks to the hot nuru gel) BBBJ. It feels absolutely amazing, almost as good as BBFS. One thing I was disappointed in is there's no camel slide. I ask her for 69 and she turns around. I instantly regret as it tastes salty. I didn't notice a bad scent, but definitely tasted it. But I championed on, making sure I spit out any bodily fluids coming into my mouth. After a while, I finally blow in her mouth. She was a champ and kept her mouth there until I finished completely. After spitting it out, she proceeded to use the hot nuru again to keep giving me a BBBJ after completion. It felt amazing. Not too many girls do this after I cum.

After that, we take a joint shower. As I'm about to pay her, she asks if I can tip her a little. Since I was supposed to pay 1,350,000 VND total, I round up and give her 1400000. As I exit, the lobby guy asks me to pay for the room / time. I tell him I paid the full amount to the lady. They look for her and she hands over the 600,000. Not sure if she thought I was giving that to her as tip. I thought I read that you're supposed to give the lady the full amount. I guess not.

All in all, I had fun and it was a very different experience than any other BJ and nuru massage I've ever had. I plan on going back to another nuru massage, but will probably not go back to Neko again.

Planning my bi-annual trip to Vietnam. For those of you recently traveled to there, is health insurance proof still required or even checked on arrival? I'm getting conflicting info from websites and reports. Reports say not asked for, website say is Required

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=EatALotOpus;2739875]Planning my bi-annual trip to Vietnam. For those of you recently traveled to there, is health insurance proof still required or even checked on arrival? I'm getting conflicting info from websites and reports. Reports say not asked for, website say is Required

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]No insurance is needed. Only a visa, if required for your country.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2740153]No insurance is needed. Only a visa, if required for your country.[/QUOTE]Thank you for helping me out!

Hello,

I'm new to Hanoi, do you have any recommendations for Hanoi? Places to meet Vietnamese women? Red light districts? I went to Gia lam today and saw nothing. If you have any advice I'm a taker thank you.

[QUOTE=Jonathan1356;2740744]Hello,

I'm new to Hanoi, do you have any recommendations for Hanoi? Places to meet Vietnamese women? Red light districts? I went to Gia lam today and saw nothing. If you have any advice I'm a taker thank you.[/QUOTE]Tons of info can be found in these forum pages. Just read back some of the pages and you should be able to find all the info you need.

[QUOTE=Jonathan1356;2740744]Hello,

I'm new to Hanoi, do you have any recommendations for Hanoi? Places to meet Vietnamese women? Red light districts? I went to Gia lam today and saw nothing. If you have any advice I'm a taker thank you.[/QUOTE]Check out KTVs, Japanese style bars [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/FZxFKYwxfHYT9Q8F7[/URL], and VIP massage (that's literally what you google).

Gai Goi is also interesting, if you have the patience for it. You can find that in my recent post (check my post history).

[QUOTE=DirtyTom;2738362]Hello folks, visiting from the USA and big sucker for CIM. Can someone share the best ways of getting one in Hanoi?

Are there BJ bars in Hanoi like in Thailand?

Any pointers please?[/QUOTE]There are no BJ bars in Hanoi. In south east Asia, outside Thailand, full fledged BJ bars exist only in Ho Chi Minh City. Hanoi might not be the best place for getting CIM blowjob. Your may try your luck in MPs asking beforehand with the help of Google translate.

After Solo's encouragement to keep at it, I decided to try KYNU 10 times. I initially tried 2, and nobody responded. So I decided to power through and just send out texts en masse. After the 8th text, I finally got a response back from [URL]https://kynuviet.net/threads/ngoc-huyen-ms-1387.1539/[/URL]. I followed the Gai Goi texting guide listed here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3662-Finding-Girls-Online&p=1851092&viewfull=1#post1851092[/URL]. But when I verified the price and time, she suddenly started replying "yes". So it seems like she knew I was a foreigner.

I followed her instructions to go to the hotel she mentioned. I checked in (paid upon leaving) and texted her my room number. She replied yes again. I waited with my clothes on in case she was ugly and I'd have to just walk out. Fortunately, she was very pretty. She came in and barely spoke. She asked me to take a shower. I undressed, but took my wallet with me to the bathroom. We each took our separate showers and I waited on the bed. She started a little foreplay, but no kissing. I noticed a large dark spot on her lower lip. As she was giving me a BBBJ, I was fingering her pussy: no bad scent. I was tempted to DATY, but there wasn't much of a connection and her snatch was pretty hairy, so I skipped it. She applied the cover and was about to get on. But I motioned her to lie down and I inserted in MISH. She was very pretty and had long curly hair. She had nice see cups which were nice to look at and suck on. She avoided eye contact and turned her face when I tried to kiss. It was a bit of a turn off. We switched to doggy. The view was very nice, she has some amazing curves. I finished while holding the bottom of that perfect hourglass figure.

She went to wash up. I got the 800 k from my wallet, which I handed when she got out. I gave the front desk 200 k as I checked out.

All in all, it was an OK experience. She was very hot. Face a 9, body an 8 (nice curves, but some skin blemishes all over). Service was probably a 6. The language barrier really hinders the chemistry. I'll probably give it another try in HCMC before I head over to Thailand. Between Gai Gon and FiwFans, I personally much prefer FiwFans. Not because of the looks, but because of the service, chemistry, and language.

I had planned to visit this country in 2020 but got cancelled due to COVID.

I am planning now in December 2022. Hopefully all will be good.

Previously I had gone through posts but seems need to redo. Not sure how much has changed in 2 years.

But quick info.

- Should I buy sim card from Airport or Street vendor?

- any recommendations (I think Viettel is best).

[QUOTE=Taehyun;2741747]I had planned to visit this country in 2020 but got cancelled due to COVID.

I am planning now in December 2022. Hopefully all will be good.

Previously I had gone through posts but seems need to redo. Not sure how much has changed in 2 years.

But quick info.

- Should I buy sim card from Airport or Street vendor?

- any recommendations (I think Viettel is best).[/QUOTE]Getting it from the Airport is fine. If you go to a few SIM stalls, they'll keep discounting to get your business. They start at 350 k. I got 300 k and my friend got 250 k a few days after. Viettel was very good.

[QUOTE=DirtyTom;2738362]Hello folks, visiting from the USA and big sucker for CIM. Can someone share the best ways of getting one in Hanoi?

Are there BJ bars in Hanoi like in Thailand?

Any pointers please?[/QUOTE]Look up VIP massage on google maps. Those are usually blowjob nuru massage shops. The one I went to was Neko Nuru. I wrote a review on it.

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2741082]After Solo's encouragement to keep at it, I decided to try KYNU 10 times. I initially tried 2, and nobody responded. So I decided to power through and just send out texts en masse. After the 8th text, I finally got a response back from [URL]https://kynuviet.net/threads/ngoc-huyen-ms-1387.1539/[/URL]. I followed the Gai Goi texting guide listed here [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3662-Finding-Girls-Online&p=1851092&viewfull=1#post1851092[/URL]...

As she was giving me a BBBJ, I was fingering her pussy: no bad scent. I was tempted to DATY, but there wasn't much of a connection and her snatch was pretty hairy, so I skipped it. She applied the cover and was about to get on. But I motioned her to lie down and I inserted in MISH. She was very pretty and had long curly hair. She had nice see cups which were nice to look at and suck on. She avoided eye contact and turned her face when I tried to kiss. It was a bit of a turn off. We switched to doggy. The view was very nice, she has some amazing curves. I finished while holding the bottom of that perfect hourglass figure...[/QUOTE]Her snatch doesn't look hairy from the pics. Sure you weren't bait and swapped? LOL.

Hi guys,

Will be travelling to Hanoi for a few days and wondering any guidance / tips in Hanoi? Probably a FS or Happy Ending?

[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2739621]So they took me into the room. The room had a nice thecor to it. Pretty wide massage table, steam sauna / shower, and a bathtub. I sat on the table as they brought out the first of the lineup. 3 girls who were all non starters for me, so I declined. .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed report. This was also my experience at the Cau Giay branch of Neko. It seems their MO is to initially send up 3 bottom-barrel gals, hoping you take one of them (since I imagine they don't get chosen a lot). Of the 2nd group of girls they sent up to me (like you only 2 girls this time), one was acceptable (about a 6 on my scale) and the other a non-starter. I wish I would have sent both of them back as well to see what a 3rd group would have looked like. For the price they charge, all girls there should be a cut above.

Hello brothers, first time to Hanoi, Vietnam. Willing to pay but can someone provide contacts of good classy ladies that I can bring to the room for few hours or overnight? Assuming it's safe to do so.

If it's advised against doing so then let me know.

Hi can anyone share there reviews about J Spa & Massage. Thinking of visiting there. Is it better than Neko Nuru or not? Please help.

Has anyone here tried J spa massage parlour in Hanoi. If yes please share your review.

Also please suggest whether Neko Nuru is better or J Spa.

Hello fellow mongers, I am visiting Vietnam for 8 days, 2 of which are in Hanoi. I would like to get some outcall action to my hotel, but most comms with Kynu, Gaigu girls have yielded nothing. I am coming from New Zealand and because of my short time, I don't want to go hunting and would rather them come to me. Happy to pay a premium for them, but am having no decent luck. Any advice?

Thanks in Advance.

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Am looking for the exact same because I have the same constraints, please share with me if anyone is helping you out.

[QUOTE=BearCub;2744275]Hello fellow mongers, I am visiting Vietnam for 8 days, 2 of which are in Hanoi. I would like to get some outcall action to my hotel, but most comms with Kynu, Gaigu girls have yielded nothing. I am coming from New Zealand and because of my short time, I don't want to go hunting and would rather them come to me. Happy to pay a premium for them, but am having no decent luck. Any advice?

Thanks in Advance.[/QUOTE]

Staying only 2 nights you have no time to search. Talk to a few hotel security guys, specify size and shapes of girls you like. They have contacts and can bring girls to your room.

It's easier to find help in 2, 3,4-star hotels, but I know a few 5-star hotels in Hanoi and HCMC have women who pay management to work housekeeping jobs and are available for sex with guests. Of course the proceeds are divided up with people in the management.

Another way is to stay in cheap hotels in the backpacker district. You can find women and their pimps on the streets, or ask security guys to bring girls.

[QUOTE=NoMoneyNoHony;2741024]There are no BJ bars in Hanoi. In south east Asia, outside Thailand, full fledged BJ bars exist only in Ho Chi Minh City. Hanoi might not be the best place for getting CIM blowjob. Your may try your luck in MPs asking beforehand with the help of Google translate.[/QUOTE]I found a place where this is possible. I might be just a hit or miss, but the girls at the massage place located at NGO 167 Pho Duong Quang Ham, Quan Hoa, Cau Giay, (small alley behind Nguyen Khanh Toan) did it without asking.

Am coming for work to Hanoi, can book any hotel anywhere.

Want to know where and which hotel to stay at for good walkable access to massage and sex places.

Also, any hotel known for arranging good ladies for coming to the room?

Any recommendations are welcome!!

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2745998]Staying only 2 nights you have no time to search. Talk to a few hotel security guys, specify size and shapes of girls you like. They have contacts and can bring girls to your room.

It's easier to find help in 2, 3,4-star hotels, but I know a few 5-star hotels in Hanoi and HCMC have women who pay management to work housekeeping jobs and are available for sex with guests. Of course the proceeds are divided up with people in the management.

Another way is to stay in cheap hotels in the backpacker district. You can find women and their pimps on the streets, or ask security guys to bring girls.[/QUOTE]Yeah not much time to hunt. Also am staying in 5* accommodation, would rather them come to me. Same for my trip to HCMC. Will take your advice and ask security if I end up stuck for options.

[QUOTE=BearCub;2747077]Yeah not much time to hunt. Also am staying in 5* accommodation, would rather them come to me. Same for my trip to HCMC. Will take your advice and ask security if I end up stuck for options.[/QUOTE]Before you book a 5* hotel assuming that you can bring a girl back to your room, you may want to contact them to confirm. Ask if you book a room for 2 that you can have a female guest overnight. Otherwise, you may find out that the hotel does not allow you to bring in a girl or have her spend the night. This happened to me. Not all hotels are girl friendly, and 5* hotels are the least girl-friendly hotels there are.

[QUOTE=BeCharming;2748808]Before you book a 5* hotel assuming that you can bring a girl back to your room, you may want to contact them to confirm. Ask if you book a room for 2 that you can have a female guest overnight. Otherwise, you may find out that the hotel does not allow you to bring in a girl or have her spend the night. This happened to me. Not all hotels are girl friendly, and 5* hotels are the least girl-friendly hotels there are.[/QUOTE]Again, appreciate the advice.

Do any off the Bike tours run by female allow cheeky fondles on the quiet while you are sitting behind them. Don't want to do something pervy and make the girl feel awkward because I am a horn dog. 🙃

I will ask, but it could be an awkward ride if the girl was to decline and I am still sitting behind her for the rest of the tour.

Hello my friend.

Be very careful of bike tour, especially night, in Hanoi.

Many these girls either take you for sex or take you for rob.

Either way get your money and maybe more.

You can easily do much better hunting.

Catch Grab motorbike if wanting a ride or I can provide you safe contact (friend) for motorbike tour, normal sites or sex sites.

Rainman.

Again, appreciate the advice.

Do any off the Bike tours run by female allow cheeky fondles on the quiet while you are sitting behind them. Don't want to do something pervy and make the girl feel awkward because I am a horn dog.

I will ask, but it could be an awkward ride if the girl was to decline and I am still sitting behind her for the rest of the tour.

[QUOTE=BearCub;2749891]Again, appreciate the advice.

Do any off the Bike tours run by female allow cheeky fondles on the quiet while you are sitting behind them. Don't want to do something pervy and make the girl feel awkward because I am a horn dog. 🙃

I will ask, but it could be an awkward ride if the girl was to decline and I am still sitting behind her for the rest of the tour.[/QUOTE]Most of these bike tours (food tours, city tours) with young girls as drivers are legit businesses. If they speak good English, then you should try chatting first to get to know them. Look for signs of them being flirty or open to advances or not before you start groping or fondling them, especially in traffic and during daylight. If you really like her, ask for her phone number so you can call her after she finishes working. If she doesn't give her number, then stop, and just enjoy the rest of your tour. Last thing you want on your trip is to grope a girl bike driver in public and having her reject you and make a scene. You may get a beating from the locals.

I haven't heard of bike tours at night, so don't know if they're legit or not.

Wrongfully posted my query in the HCMC forum, now posting in Hanoi.

Will be travelling next month as a tourist. Better be safe in a foreign land rather than land in jail.

So zeroed in this parlour.

Has anybody taken service over here. What to expect and what not over here. Is FS available or only BBBJ.

Will the service stop if we cum early (LOL) or I can cum multiple times.

Its saying 950 k plus 950 k tip. Total around 162 dollars.

Any other authentic and secure massage service with extra in lower budget available.

Please suggest.

Caught on the Viet bandwagon due to the super cheap flights offered by vietjet from India. I had few tips from my friend here who lived here for few years plus guidance from this forum.

Love the country and might visit again. Great food, super culture and tourism in the north & northeast, $10 GF hotel rooms in Hanoi, cheap mongering & easy transportation.

Landed in Phu Quoc and toured it for a day. Very scenic & affable people. Got a cab from the airport exit coffee shop, $70 for a whole day tour. No mongering here.

Flew to Hanoi (there is a ship + road option to HCMC if you want to do that), took the bus 10 X from the airport which takes you to old town (55 k vnd).

Stayed in one of the hotels listed in this forum, walking distance to the lake & beer street, there are. Lot of massage parlours. A grab biker got hold of me & persisted me to visit the MP, Promised me look and decide, no need to pay. Went with him and wow the girls there behind the curtain were very pretty, hard to choose one. Rate was 1 m for an HR all included. Chose a slim korean and she took me upstairs, the guy there asked for payment first & card swipe was available.

Room with beds right next to each other separated by curtain, not great at cleanliness & I could hear the moaning from 2 beds next.

The massage was pretty lame and she started asking for tips, said that guy you hear moaning paid her 3 m, I said no, service first. Lot of that sanitizer during the HJ, grabbed her non existent boobs falsified by the push up. The BBBJ was not bad with BLS, got naked, bit of hair there but no smell. 2 positions, fake moaning but couldn't top the moaning next to us which is what distracted me. Took out cover and started BJ again to CIM. I had a bit of cash, gave it to her without counting, she didn't seem pleased.

I went there again late night but selection was lame.

The same driver was showing me vids on his phone for karaoke bar when I mentioned it to him, kept stating 2 m with unlimited beer and girl for 2-3 hrs. Other tour had said 3 m.

I told him I will venture by myself and went to hote fortuna the next day, it is expensive and the girls state random prices above 1. 5 m. Some demanded extra to come to old town hotel, guess it is easier if you stay at the hotel itself.

Line & gagou didn't work much for me, most of them seemed overly plastic and asked for 1. 5 m to 2 m for coming to out rooms.

Didn't try the other massage places listed here as I had to tour ha long bay early next day.

HCMC is more easy & like bkk, will post my report there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2735684]Sinful,

I replied to you but post did not show up. There are all kinds of transport from the airport to downtown Hanoi. I used UBER all the time, no problem.

Check out these sites or google GAI GOI. Lots of hot girls in Hanoi and Saigon work online for $20-50ST, prettier, fresher, cleaner than Thailand. Pick the girls and make appointments. Anyone you like you can arrange for all nights or multiple day dates.[/QUOTE]Going to be in Hanoi for a week. Can you let me know where's good places to go for girls?

Since there's no forum for ninh binh tam coc I assume there's not much action there? Or at least some worth of posting? I had a great mongering week in ho chi minh recently and now heading up north. Will be there for a week and any info would be much appreciated!

[QUOTE=Zagal;2762863]Since there's no forum for ninh binh tam coc I assume there's not much action there? Or at least some worth of posting? I had a great mongering week in ho chi minh recently and now heading up north. Will be there for a week and any info would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]Can you please share your HCM experience?

Which hotel you stayed and how did you monger?

Also which Hotel in Hanoi?

I am planning to visit Next week. Thanks.

[QUOTE=CcoollGuy;2762993]Can you please share your HCM experience?

Which hotel you stayed and how did you monger?

Also which Hotel in Hanoi?

I am planning to visit Next week. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I know this is the Hanoi forum but I will answer your questions about HCM, here's the Update, I just went to 2 parlors in tam coc and were both just massages with no extras. It was my first day here in tam coc and didn't know anything about the monger potential, I mainly came for the the scenery. From what I can see, these parlors don't have individual rooms. Anyone have any other info about that area? As for Hanoi, I just got picked up there directly from the airport and driven here, no time spent in Hanoi. As for HCM, I stayed at the TN Central Hotel, it was less than a 10 min walk to little Japan town and I went to Linh Cherry. I asked to see the lineup, there was about 15 to 20 girls to choose from, half were decent not bad, and half were really hot, most looked in their 20's or early 30's, there is no grannys thankfully. There will be several you will like I am sure. I picked a girl that sounded like her name was "Osua", her face was cute and young, 24 she said. Her body was absolutely banging, I give it a solid 9. Round ass and nice be cups. Had a skinny tattoo going down her back that read something in cursive. Started with a shower, then BBBJ, decent tequnique, rode me for a bit then doggy, I didn't last long and finished in the bag. She was very polite and took instructions well. 500 k for the door fee and 2 mil dong for the girl. Prices are firm. I hear some of the girls do CBJ and others BBBJ, thankfully she was BBBJ.

I checked out this alley. The two massage places are VIP massage places. BJ will always be included without question. FS is also on the table but has to be negotiated.

[QUOTE=OneUw84;2746322]I found a place where this is possible. I might be just a hit or miss, but the girls at the massage place located at NGO 167 Pho Duong Quang Ham, Quan Hoa, Cau Giay, (small alley behind Nguyen Khanh Toan) did it without asking.[/QUOTE]

I kind of stumbled on this place yesterday while exploring the area. It is a VIP massage joint even though it doesn't say that in their name. They had a 500 K massage with a 500 K tip that would go for 80 minutes. You don't get to choose the girl but you can change her out if you're not happy. The facility was very clean. Sauna was good. The bath was very nice. She actually got in there with me and was not in any hurry whatsoever. In fact she stayed with me for a full 78 minutes. I think she was early 30's. Decent body. No English. BJ skills were amazing. I think she would've allowed me to pop twice if I wanted to. For FS, she wanted 2 million. I passed on that. I ran into two more therapists in the elevator and they were beautiful. I think this is a hidden gem spot. I would definitely go back.

Taco.

Little bit off topic.

I have one travel from Hanoi to ha-long.

What would be best way to travel. ?

Any site which can be used for reliable bus, train booking.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Taehyun;2766043]Little bit off topic.

I have one travel from Hanoi to ha-long.

What would be best way to travel. ?

Any site which can be used for reliable bus, train booking.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Well can't help with bus or train but my fave is.

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Hello,

I'll be in Hanoi for the first time over the coming holidays. Does anyone have recommendations for things to do on New Year's Eve (ie, 12/31, not lunar new year)? Just something vanilla, like a hotel or street party (if such things exist). Also up for a beer for any seasoned vets or travelers that are in town for the first week in January.

Visited Hanoi during the mid December. Had an evening free. So visited this palce called Neko Nuru. They have 2 branches and visited La Thanh.

It is a seprate building where they house KTV, Strip club etc. Once you enter the reception person guides you to floor 4 for the Nuru. When I went in late evening about 3 mamasen were there and one of them greeted me and showed me the photos of about 20 ladies on duty, I chose 3 and he bought them to my room. #117 was the one who impressed me, a warm smile and she showed intent. Later I understood that if I was not happy with the 3 they would have showed me more, no questions asked.

Once the things were settled, she made small talk with her broken english while she was disrobing me. She then ushered me into the steam bath for 5 minutes while she disrobed and prepared the tub for our bath together. After the steam bath she bathed me throughly while she let me play with her. She was a sport always. She then wiped me dry and made me lie on my belly.

She then proceeed to give a fairly good massage with baby oil. What made this exciting was she made sure her tits and pussy were constantly in touch with my body parts to keep me excited. After the massge she asked me if I was ready for the Nuru.

The Nuru was nothing like I had experienced before. She prepared a bowl of nuru gel with warm water which she spread all over me. Her warm tongue then proceed to trace every inch of my back, while her other body parts were in full contact. Heavenly feeling.

FInally she took some warm gel in her mouth and proceeded with a BBBJ. Wow. Just wow. This warm nuru BBBJ was the closest experience to a BBFS. She even did a 69 on my request. I coulbn't last long and shot my whole load in her mouth which she cleaned up like a champ.

Finally, she bathed me again, dried me up and robed me. A final parting warm hug and kiss did my day. By far one of the top hours I have enjoyed in my life.

Hey Bros, I am arriving on Feb and planning to stay in Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. My trip will be 70% mongering and 30% sightseeing.

For Saigon, I have booked my hotels and apartments nearby little Japan and bui vien street but confused about Hanoi. Most of the famous hotels seem to be in the old quarter area. I am planning to try Lady windy massage and Fortuna hotel spa but they seem bit far from this area.

Can you guys recommend any good hotels or areas where I should stay for mongering. Also does the hotel spas in old quarter provide any service?

I hope this post help who are traveling here.

My apology, it's not FR.

I arrived in morning here.

Took the local sim from Airport. Viettel 300 vnd (or 13 $). Very reasonable price I would say for 4 gb / day for 30 days and 50 local calls. Sufficient for my stay.

I carried USD, at airport they are paying 23500/ usd, which is very good price. I found the same price near to my hotel as well.

Local transport. Immediately I installed grab taxi and booked for my hotel. Price is good. Driver arrived in time and no problem at all.

Even for local transport nearby, I used grab taxi all the time. No problem anywhere, anytime. Sometime grab driver call you, I look for some local help. I always got help from somebody.

Food. Just great with variety and for price.

People I found little shy to talk with foreigner but they do listen, try to understand and help. Nice people.

FR in next post.

Took a grab taxi and reached there.

You directly land to second floor, from there lift reception boy opens lift and swap the card and you reach to destination, which is at 4 floor.

Immediately they hand over menu.

Price range for Room type, time to be spent etc.

I chose 600 K room, 750 k for service, total 1350 k package.

They show the girl, you can refuse and ask for more options.

I chosen Vee I gues (that's what I remember).

Service starts with Sauna, jaccuzi bath, baby oil massage and BJ. For me it was CBJ. She didn't offer FS nor I asked.

I should have asked before selecting the girl for BBBJ.

Hi brother.

In Hanoi, you can stay near Beer street. HCMC is best for mongering purposes, you have the bars, walking street there, also spa offers extras. But in Hanoi you will get limited options, you can try Spas there for extras. Usually for 1 shot the girls charge 1 million VND. Install ZALO app, it's like watsapp, used by all in Vietnam. The girls there are petite, very fair and friendly.

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2774157]Hey Bros, I am arriving on Feb and planning to stay in Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi. My trip will be 70% mongering and 30% sightseeing.

For Saigon, I have booked my hotels and apartments nearby little Japan and bui vien street but confused about Hanoi. Most of the famous hotels seem to be in the old quarter area. I am planning to try Lady windy massage and Fortuna hotel spa but they seem bit far from this area.

Can you guys recommend any good hotels or areas where I should stay for mongering. Also does the hotel spas in old quarter provide any service?[/QUOTE]

How open are massage and escorts to BBFSCIP in Hanoi? I've been all through Asia and find some places are more open than others

Thanks bro. Any spas and massage places you can recommend in HCMC or Hanoi?

[QUOTE=Thanos1;2774784]Hi brother.

In Hanoi, you can stay near Beer street. HCMC is best for mongering purposes, you have the bars, walking street there, also spa offers extras. But in Hanoi you will get limited options, you can try Spas there for extras. Usually for 1 shot the girls charge 1 million VND. Install ZALO app, it's like watsapp, used by all in Vietnam. The girls there are petite, very fair and friendly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2775832]Thanks bro. Any spas and massage places you can recommend in HCMC or Hanoi?[/QUOTE]HCMC, you can just search and visit any massage place.

Hanoi. Try neko.

Stayed a couple of nights in old town. First time in Hanoi for 12 years. What a difference! Every corner there will be a pimp offering girls for a good time. Avoid! Matrons on motors bikes. Similarly avoid! Tom's Bar in old town. Very busy in the street and then fills up inside with party goers as the night progresses. Locals and tourists / expats. I was ushered in by a female staff member and guided to where the local ladies of the night were waiting. Mixed bunch but I found a nice companion. Small hotels no problem for having someone join you.

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Quick Questions on Finances.

Do you recommend bringing only big bills or a mix of smaller bills (USD)?

Do you recommend bringing a few 100.00 USD in Dong (have a decent money exchange near me)?

ATM fees?

ATM, hotels and businesses accepting American Express?

Recommended places for exchanging USD for Dong?

On departure, how badly will I get ripped changing Dong back to Dollars at the airport?

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2782978]Quick Questions on Finances.

Do you recommend bringing only big bills or a mix of smaller bills (USD)?

Do you recommend bringing a few 100.00 USD in Dong (have a decent money exchange near me)?

ATM fees?

ATM, hotels and businesses accepting American Express?

Recommended places for exchanging USD for Dong?

On departure, how badly will I get ripped changing Dong back to Dollars at the airport?[/QUOTE]As a general statement, when traveling overseas:

For exchange, bring USD100 bills for exchange. Bring the newest type (3 D security ribbon; bell in the inkwell); specimens that are clean and crisp as possible. Keep in mind, the money changer doesn't have ability to "trade up" without cost.

There are some jewelry stores who also do currency exchange, either openly or discreetly. In those situations, an incrementally better rate can be had--if only because the store wants the US currency for its own use.

For my trip to VN, I was able to purchase dong from my bank before departure. The rate wasn't bad. It gave me a sense of security to know I had some dong on me, and wasn't under pressure to find somewhere to trade currency upon arrival. I did not trade excessively, so I didn't have too much left over when I left. What little I had, I gave to VN friends in the States who were departing for VN.

Hey Guys.

I need the suggestions.

I'm starting my trip from Hanoi and ending at HCMC.

Need below help.

1. Which are decent and safe hotels to stay. Including Girl friendly ones.

2. Which is the best way to Travel intercity in Vietnam.

3. What good, trusted and genuine sites for Finding escorts? Also is it wise to engage travel escort?

Appreciate the help.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2782978]Quick Questions on Finances.

Do you recommend bringing only big bills or a mix of smaller bills (USD)?

Do you recommend bringing a few 100.00 USD in Dong (have a decent money exchange near me)?

ATM fees?

ATM, hotels and businesses accepting American Express?

Recommended places for exchanging USD for Dong?

On departure, how badly will I get ripped changing Dong back to Dollars at the airport?[/QUOTE]Decided to bring five one-hundred dollar bills, five hundred dollars in dong and both American Express and MasterCard. Family / Group trip, so hotels sightseeing (tour guide and driver) and meals already covered. Only a 5 day /4 night trip, so cash should be enough w / cards available just in case.

Checked any excess dong can be changed at home, at a not to painful rate.

Might only have time for 1 daytime legit barbershop visit and 1 late night spa visit. Any recommendations, Top Legit Barber / Top Spa to visits if you only had 1 option per.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2785341]Decided to bring five one-hundred dollar bills, five hundred dollars in dong and both American Express and MasterCard. Family / Group trip, so hotels sightseeing (tour guide and driver) and meals already covered. Only a 5 day /4 night trip, so cash should be enough w / cards available just in case.

Checked any excess dong can be changed at home, at a not to painful rate.

Might only have time for 1 daytime legit barbershop visit and 1 late night spa visit. Any recommendations, Top Legit Barber / Top Spa to visits if you only had 1 option per.[/QUOTE]Try Neko nuru massage. You can choose the girls once you pay the room charges and massage there is one of a kind experience in itself. Though they don't allow full service there, but you can get mind-blowing HJ and BJ there and for some extra money you can try to persuade the girl to meet you outside or call her to your hotel. Enjoy bro.

[QUOTE=VincentX;2785746]Try Neko nuru massage. You can choose the girls once you pay the room charges and massage there is one of a kind experience in itself. Though they don't allow full service there, but you can get mind-blowing HJ and BJ there and for some extra money you can try to persuade the girl to meet you outside or call her to your hotel. Enjoy bro.[/QUOTE]Just reading the forum, Neko Nuru Massage was definitely in my Top 3 of Spa / Massage options, guess it's #1 now.

Any recommendations for a legit barber experience with a hot Viet (female, of course). Only talking about a good haircut (wash and conditioning), manicure / pedicure, facial / foot massage and ear cleaning? Some place that I can bring the entire family (wife, daughter and niece) along. Just for the experience.

Side Note: Any good poker rooms in Hanoi? Wouldn't mind blowing a few hours playing some cards, as haven't played live poker in years.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2785890]Just reading the forum, Neko Nuru Massage was definitely in my Top 3 of Spa / Massage options, guess it's #1 now.

Any recommendations for a legit barber experience with a hot Viet (female, of course). Only talking about a good haircut (wash and conditioning), manicure / pedicure, facial / foot massage and ear cleaning? Some place that I can bring the entire family (wife, daughter and niece) along. Just for the experience.

Side Note: Any good poker rooms in Hanoi? Wouldn't mind blowing a few hours playing some cards, as haven't played live poker in years.[/QUOTE]Though I didn't try any casinos, but I think there is one in Hanoi Hotel. The club name is Winners club. Enjoy.

Tried Neko massage at OCD building few days back. First time there.

Seems like even with all the prices upfront, there are still ways they will short-change or cheat you.

Went at 4 pm. Order the King room 90 minutes. 950 k + tip 950 k.

Chose a girl, Japanese tattoo on left shoulder.

Ask me to do sanua alone, for about 10 minutes.

Shower with me in big tube, massage my hand and leg a bit sitting down in tub. 10 minutes.

Ask if I want 2 girls. I said no need.

Tried to make me cum in tub. Keep insisting to make me cum early. Told her no.

Go onto bed, immediately tried BBBJ and HJ. After 5 minutes, told her not in the mood yet, can start massage me.

Gel Massage 15 minutes. Just some pressing and slapping of back. No body to body massage.

Lousy massage.

Turn over. BBBJ and HJ. Done.

Then she lie next to me. I shut eye a bit. Then she ask me go shower up.

I am out at the counter, to my surprise, its only 4. 50 pm.

The guy at the counter mentioned I need to pay full 1900 k. I said no.

He mentioned KING room minimum 1. 5 HR. Say can go back in for the rest of 30 minutes.

What is the girl trying to do? Work for less than an hour, expect 1. 5 hours? Is it customer duty to keep watch of the time?

Things might turn really ugly, but luckily, there are constant stream of customers going out, coming in. So they know there is a commotion going on.

In the end, paid for room for 1. 5 h, and tip for gal at 1 h.

They have tons of foreign customer going for a single time. So I don't think they care.

The girl mentioned the customer here are mainly foreigner and they have about 20 girls on the premise.

To the establishment, DO NOT presume that customer are trying to cheat. Check on your own protocol first.

Go at your own risk.

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Tried Lady windy massage yesterday. Took the 500 k + 500 k tip option. I told will give tip to the girl upstairs. Asked for selection but was told can't select but can change. Paid 500 k at counter and went upstairs. I asked for a change of 1st girl as she was quite average looking. The 2nd one was also kinda above avg looking but accepted her as I was fed up with the waiting times. Both girls took 8-10 minutes to appear. The sauna had started leaking steam into the room, the bathtub half full and my patience half gone.

Went to sauna for few minutes while she undressed. Once I came out was directed to the bathtub. The girl asked "bom bom?” I said ofcourse yes. She replied "bom bom 2 m, thank you". I indicated with fingers 1. 5 m max I will give. She was not ready but I was also not ready to pay 2 m for an above avg chick. This negotiation went on for the rest of bath and during the massage. I think that's the only English words she knows "bom bom 2 m, thank you". Finally she agreed for 1. 5 m and we started the deed. Did DATY+FS. She was worried someone will find out but didn't hurry much. Quite cooperative actually.

Overall the experience was ok but won't be repeating this place or any place with this kind of selection hurdles. I think they have quite a few average looking girls so they don't allow direct selection.

During my time in Vietnam (coming from Pattaya), I found that I couldn't get any attraction whatsoever from Vietnamese girls.

I found this quote in another forum, which explains things:

Vietnamese girls think differently. Massive culture shock. They do tend to be fuckable virgins though. (unlike Indian women) You just need to be serious to them. Most girls are virgins till married.

Tried Neko nuru 2 times.

1st girl:

She was good, looks wise a 7 with a nice figure. Although I knew FS was not on offer, got so excited on seeing her in her Neko uniform. She bathed me in bathtub then asked me to relax while she takes bath in sauna room. Seeing her sexy body getting washed, I was desperate to taste her. Was hoping she would at least allow some body kissing, and boy o boy, what an experience it was!

She was so damn cooperative- munched her boobs, bit her tits. No complaints. Munched her pussy and bit her vertical lips. Slightly complained but with a smile. Asked to give some nuru sliding. Again what a great feeling! Then came the final part I. E, BBBJ + HJ. Fingered her to heart's content while she was blowing me. I whispered multiple times "I want to boom boom you". She smiles and opens google translate to tell me that it will get her fired. Such a downer. I was in total mood to bang her brains out!

While getting dressed, saw her boobs were still red with my hungry munching. Felt so great. Tipped a little extra to her and left a very happy man.

2nd girl:

After the great 1st encounter, decided to visited neko again. This time was an average experience. Firstly, the neko staff is not so friendly in answering customer's queries. I was just given a one line reply with a straight face for anything I asked. "You can select the girls in the room sir", whereas I had already whatsapped them in advance of my preferred selection of girls.

Coming to the girl, she was a 21 Yr old, looks wise 7. Had a lovely body with puffy type nipples. She was not as cooperative as 1st one. Felt a bit mechanical. Kept reminding me of time left. No DATY allowed, with short boobs kissing. The nuru sliding was also sub par. Did horizontal sliding instead of the standard vertical. Took this opportunity to start fingering her. Her pussy was damn tight. Found it difficult to insert 2 fingers. Few minutes later, she started BBBJ + HJ which she wanted to finish quickly, but I still got her to do it for few more minutes, thanks to the morning jerking I had done at hotel haha.

While casually chatting later, she was quite friendly to talk but again I am not here to chat, I am here for a sexperience, which was pretty ordinary to be honest. No extra tips for her.

The straight faced neko staff were all smiles once I paid the monney, but I think they need to work on their customer friendliness. If you don't understand what customer is asking use the fucking google translate, rather than repeating same line again and again!

Date & Time: FEB 2023.

Location: 26 P. Phan Văand Trị, Quốsee Tử Giám, Đ7889;ng Đa, Hà andộI, Vietnam.

Name: Didn't ask.

Nationality: Vietnamese.

Language: Didn't talk, only translated trough her phone.

Age: Born 2003.

Face: 4/5.

Body: 5/5 (Tiny tits, the way I love it).

Service: 3/5.

GFE: 2/5.

Price: 600 k VND (Sauna + Bath together + massage + Nuru 100 mins) + 600,000 VND (Tips for HJ / BBBJ).

WIR: I whish I had time.

I decided to try emperor instead of Neko (2/3 of the price) in Hanoi last night. The location is in a side street with noth much to do around, but easy to find with the address. Once you arrive, there is a girl at the counter showing you only the 60 k+60 k option (I read somewhere shorter and cheaper was possible, but I needed a relaxing moment anyway as I walked a lot that day). You pay everything at once and you are led to a room by a man, sending a girl over. I told him I liked tiny and slim, and I don't know if he got it, but he said OK OK. About 5 minutes later a girls shows up. Really pretty face (almost babyface) and really nice body in the uniform they wear.

She heated up the sauna room and led me to it. Waited me to finish in there. After the session I laid on the bed while she massaged me with some kind of herbal paste. She showed me a message "I'm new here, Do you mind or would you like another girl?" I told her she could stay and she smiled, we then proceeded to the shower where she joined me and washed me off. From the shower we went to the bath where she washed me entirely, giving me a few nice strokes on the way.

We were back on the bed where she proceeded with the Nuru. This is where her skills were still limited, although it felt good have her naked body against mine, it was not very applied, and she turned me over after 5 minutes to then do the front side. She wanted to the BJ from the side of the bed, but I asked her to come in 69 position. I started licking and she didn't stop me, so I continued. Unfortunately it was more HJ than BJ and with all the nuru gel, it's difficult to control the This part ended way to fast. AS some time was left, she proposed to give me a normal massage, she remained naked the whole time, and give me a really good massage, there I was surprised as I didn't expect this. We ended up showering together again, and as the 100 minutes were almost over, I didn't feel like waiting until the end. Got dressed, and got back outside. During the dressing I asked about her tattoo that had some dates. Showed 2003, I asked if that was her, she noded yes. Really a nice girl to pass some time.

I must warn tough: Facilities are run down, humidity marks everywhere. So the hardware is not optimal, but the software was definitely soft.

Yea, wacky question. But like hitting 711 after a long night.

Couldn't find them in my trip, at least around my hotel area in old quarter. Had to make do with circle k stores.

In HCMC saw many 7-11 and familymarts.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2794497]Yea, wacky question. But like hitting 711 after a long night.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2794516]Couldn't find them in my trip, at least around my hotel area in old quarter. Had to make do with circle k stores.

In HCMC saw many 7-11 and familymarts.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Circle K works for midnite snacks and beer nightcap.

Tried the other areas section and not a word. Anybody know if this town outside Haiphong is still a going concern?

[QUOTE=SouthEaster;2794584]Tried the other areas section and not a word. Anybody know if this town outside Haiphong is still a going concern?[/QUOTE]Yep have spent a lot of time in Haiphong. First you need to speak some vietnamese or use google translate. Second, the incidence of HIV in the girls is higher in that area. I work in the medical area in Haiphong when I visit so got this info from an Infectious disease doc. Do Son is not very big so you have to move around.

Try LINE app. I've had good luck using that one.

GG.

Searched but not getting any luck. Any of the decent hotels with a bar where can find freelancers / working girls? Assume the bar at Metropole too fancy? Ideally something like Brix at Grandy Hyatt in Singapore or the old JJ Mhoneys at Grand Hyatt Seoul (where while not super busy, still had freelancers). At the Pulman but nothing herr.

Will be spending a night in Ha Long after cruising Ha Long Bay before returning to Hanoi. What's the nightlife like there?

Date & Time: FEB 2023.

Location: theịch Vọng, seeầyou Giấwhy, Hà andộI, Vietnam.

Name: Didn't ask.

Nationality: Vietnamese.

Language: Didn't talk not even trough her phone (didn't mind tough, the naughty looks and smiles were enough for me).

Age: no idea. Mid 20's I guess.

Face: 3/5.

Body: 2/5 (fake tits).

Service: 5/5.

GFE: 4/5.

Price: 500 k VND (Sauna + Bath together + massage + Nuru 60 mins) +700 k VND (Tips for the girl).

After reading about this place on another forum I was in the neigborhood and decided to pop in. I was actually trying to check out the girls, but they lead you to a room immediately, and only send one up. I did see quite a few ones on my way down with some partying Vietnamese, overall quality is good!

The Girl I had, I didn't feel very comfortable at first. Her body seemed nice, but the tits looked fake. I don't have the courage to say no, so she stayed, but they were indeed silicone. Not the best feeling for the Nuru. Butfor the rest she was actualy super sweet. Nice bath together and then Nuru. First the back and it felt weird because of the Silicone, but then she asked me to flip and that almost felt like dry (or oily) humping! No penetration, but such a great feeling. Every time she went up she came so close to my mouth like teasing me to kiss (didn't try to, don't want to ruin it). She the proceeded to th BBBJ, and damn she sucked! But in a GREAT WAY! Realy nice, long, deep strokes with her tongue going 360. I held it together and then tapped her ass and signaled to give it to me. She smiled like she was almost happy I proposed. We 69 for a while and she kept blowing, no HJ (a miracle, as most experiences I had is 1-2 min BJ and the rest HJ.) As I was ready to shoot, I tapped her for a warning, but she didn't budge. She continued and kept it all in her mouth. I continued my part while and she must have liked it, as gave me a big smile as she turned around. Proceeded to the bath, and spit it all out. She then came on top of me and started cuddling.

She saw that I was holding my head quite often (migraines) and she then asked me to come lay on her lap to give me a head massage.

My only regret was that 60 minutes was over so soon. I paid the same as at Emperor, but got 40 minutes less. Facilities are a little better, and the girl was way better than the Emperor girl, but that one did warn me she was new.

I stayed at Fortuna hotel during my short visit to Hanoi. Visited the Boss club at the basement yesterday. A lot of working girls available, manager said 150 girls. Quality much better compared to Old Quarter bar freelancers. The selection process is a pain in the ass with super pushy mamasans and it is not really easy to talk to the girls. And the place is dark. Many of the girls don't speak english. Best to ask mamasan to present a few girls according to one's taste and then select. I named my preferences and was offered a small young 21 YO from Hanoi with natural tits. After paying the drinks plus other costs and the girl I went to my room and she came 5 minutes later. Standard procedure at the hotel. We took shower together and then moved to bed. She had really nicely shaped round, rather large firm natural tits and a cute face. Sex was great, no complaints from her or other crap which sometimes happen. Just a good straightforward fuck with a pretty young girl.

Total cost was 2,1 M for the bar plus 3,6 M for the girl. Worth every VND for me.

Is 3. 6 m inclusive of the 2. 1 m or you spent 5. 7 m in total for 1 girl 1 shot?

[QUOTE=ArnPoddict;2795425]I stayed at Fortuna hotel during my short visit to Hanoi. Visited the Boss club at the basement yesterday. A lot of working girls available, manager said 150 girls. Quality much better compared to Old Quarter bar freelancers. The selection process is a pain in the ass with super pushy mamasans and it is not really easy to talk to the girls. And the place is dark. Many of the girls don't speak english. Best to ask mamasan to present a few girls according to one's taste and then select. I named my preferences and was offered a small young 21 YO from Hanoi with natural tits. After paying the drinks plus other costs and the girl I went to my room and she came 5 minutes later. Standard procedure at the hotel. We took shower together and then moved to bed. She had really nicely shaped round, rather large firm natural tits and a cute face. Sex was great, no complaints from her or other crap which sometimes happen. Just a good straightforward fuck with a pretty young girl.

Total cost was 2,1 M for the bar plus 3,6 M for the girl. Worth every VND for me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ulalaulala123;2795947]Is 3. 6 m inclusive of the 2. 1 m or you spent 5. 7 m in total for 1 girl 1 shot?[/QUOTE]As I wrote; 2,1 PLUS 3,6 = 5,7 M for the total cost. The young girl was better than good.

My friend I am glad you had good time, but, for money you paid certainly should have been much more entertainment.

You paid about 3 times the going rate for pretty girl, GFE in Hanoi.

This site can hook you up with many beautiful girls VN. Get 5 for your price.

If you want it translated, paste the URL into Google Chrome Browser.

Good hunting.

Rainman.

Will be spending a night in Ha Long after cruising Ha Long Bay before returning to Hanoi. What's the nightlife like there?

Forgot to post link.

[URL]https://gaigoixx.com/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

Happy Times.

Rainman.

My friend I am glad you had good time, but, for money you paid certainly should have been much more entertainment.

You paid about 3 times the going rate for pretty girl, GFE in Hanoi.

This site can hook you up with many beautiful girls VN. Get 5 for your price.

If you want it translated, paste the URL into Google Chrome Browser.

Good hunting.

Rainman.

[QUOTE=Mosquito2002;2796249]Will be spending a night in Ha Long after cruising Ha Long Bay before returning to Hanoi. What's the nightlife like there?[/QUOTE]Intel on Ha Long City and Sapa, please!

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2796189]My friend I am glad you had good time, but, for money you paid certainly should have been much more entertainment.

You paid about 3 times the going rate for pretty girl, GFE in Hanoi.

This site can hook you up with many beautiful girls VN. Get 5 for your price.

If you want it translated, paste the URL into Google Chrome Browser.

Good hunting.

Rainman.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your answer but that is meaningless for me. I don't mind about the high price. Time is money for me when I am on vacation. I don't have time to search for cheapest pussy like you. I take the best available hooker at sight and pay the price. Period.

Any places with gtd fuck in HaNoi, so far only found the SPA in Hanoi Hotel (2 RHC+4 HG D8, P. Giảng Võ, Giảng Võ, Ba Đình, Hanoi 10000, Vietnam).

It's alright, nice facilities, but girls are 7's at bests, room are dark and the girls ask 2 M.

I'm in Hanoi now. Anybody cares to meet at a cheap HTGD with nice girls? Please PM me.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2796630]Forgot to post link.

[URL]https://gaigoixx.com/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

Happy Times.

Rainman.

My friend I am glad you had good time, but, for money you paid certainly should have been much more entertainment.

You paid about 3 times the going rate for pretty girl, GFE in Hanoi.

This site can hook you up with many beautiful girls VN. Get 5 for your price.

If you want it translated, paste the URL into Google Chrome Browser.[/QUOTE]Great info, rainmaker, much appreciated.

Have any more?

The rates are incredible, better than BKK.

[QUOTE=JustAwny;2792807]During my time in Vietnam (coming from Pattaya), I found that I couldn't get any attraction whatsoever from Vietnamese girls.

I found this quote in another forum, which explains things:

Vietnamese girls think differently. Massive culture shock. They do tend to be fuckable virgins though. (unlike Indian women) You just need to be serious to them. Most girls are virgins till married.[/QUOTE]Who said That?

I live in vietnam, the medium age where start to fuck whit boyfriend is 15.

[QUOTE=Qeast;2783301]As a general statement, when traveling overseas:

For exchange, bring USD100 bills for exchange. Bring the newest type (3 D security ribbon; bell in the inkwell); specimens that are clean and crisp as possible. Keep in mind, the money changer doesn't have ability to "trade up" without cost.

There are some jewelry stores who also do currency exchange, either openly or discreetly. In those situations, an incrementally better rate can be had--if only because the store wants the US currency for its own use.

For my trip to VN, I was able to purchase dong from my bank before departure. The rate wasn't bad. It gave me a sense of security to know I had some dong on me, and wasn't under pressure to find somewhere to trade currency upon arrival. I did not trade excessively, so I didn't have too much left over when I left. What little I had, I gave to VN friends in the States who were departing for VN.[/QUOTE]If I may give you ad advice.

I have been living in vietnam FR a 4 years.

Don't need to bring your own DONG.

Is full of ATM, when you need take 3 million.

In the Airport too.

The % is the same to all the world.

Never go to exchenge offices or jewelry stores.

All place accept VISA and MasterCARD.

For the Taxi use the GRAB app.

For Hotel the best in VIETNAM is AGODA, same company as booking but whit lower prices.

[QUOTE=RainmanSahut;2796630]Forgot to post link.

[URL]https://gaigoixx.com/gai-goi-ha-noi/[/URL]

Happy Times.

Rainman.

My friend I am glad you had good time, but, for money you paid certainly should have been much more entertainment.

You paid about 3 times the going rate for pretty girl, GFE in Hanoi.

This site can hook you up with many beautiful girls VN. Get 5 for your price.

If you want it translated, paste the URL into Google Chrome Browser.

Good hunting.

Rainman.[/QUOTE]Are the pics real? Pics look fake.

Why does it say prices in CZK? Shouldn't it be in VND?

Good price, but not sure about pics or the currency it displays.

Are the pics real? Pics look fake.

Real girl photo, normally phot shopped to improve.

Why does it say prices in CZK? Shouldn't it be in VND?

VND in my browser.

Use Chrome to translate.

Good price, but not sure about pics or the currency it displays Yes VND.

Many do not want Farangs.

Based on your recommendations, I decided to stay in the Fortuna hotel.

Went to the basement club, and ordered one beer. Been brought 7 cans - 150,000 each (market price 15,000). They explained this by "minimum spend limit" - I have to order for 1 mln. That is ok, but I prefer to choose what to order myself.

Girl who joined me offered to get to my room for 3 mln. She was nice, so I agreed and asked for the bill.

The bill was 2,000,000 - I have to pay for her sitting with me 1 mln more, and it is not included in her 3 mln price!

Still ok. Looks like a bar fine, I should be warned in advance, but ok.

But then mamasan demanded payment for herself! Then I refused. She took my wallet and took several 200,000 bills! It is not ok!

I said I do not want to deal with them, and that I want leave immediately. And they said I cannot! If I do not take the girl with me. I have to pay 1 mln more, or they will not allow me to leave! Thai is totally not OK!

I never conflict with locals, so I have paid.

So, less than 1 hour in a mediocre bar and 3 Heineken cans cost me 3 mln.

What do you think? Should I be paying 1 mln to mamasan too? Do you think 6 mln for ST is a good bargain?

I have lived in Hanoi for 10 years. I am able to speak Vietnamese. There is so much misinformation and terrible places that people go to when they come to Hanoi. If anyone wants to meet up when they come to Hanoi let me know. I can show you around and give you some tips on how things work in Hanoi. I have been on this site for years but decided to make an account.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2805255]Are the pics real? Pics look fake.

Why does it say prices in CZK? Shouldn't it be in VND?

Good price, but not sure about pics or the currency it displays.[/QUOTE]I live in Hanoi for the last 10 years. That is just one of the sites. We have better ones here. All the girls use photoshop for the pictures. There are better ways for girls than those sites. There are some good ones on there but have to read the reviews. I am able to read Viet so it is easier for me. Any help just let me know.

[QUOTE=Ablaze001;2807002]Based on your recommendations, I decided to stay in the Fortuna hotel.

Went to the basement club, and ordered one beer. Been brought 7 cans - 150,000 each (market price 15,000). They explained this by "minimum spend limit" - I have to order for 1 mln. That is ok, but I prefer to choose what to order myself.

Girl who joined me offered to get to my room for 3 mln. She was nice, so I agreed and asked for the bill.

The bill was 2,000,000 - I have to pay for her sitting with me 1 mln more, and it is not included in her 3 mln price!

Still ok. Looks like a bar fine, I should be warned in advance, but ok.

But then mamasan demanded payment for herself! Then I refused. She took my wallet and took several 200,000 bills! It is not ok![/QUOTE]Relocated to Hanoi Hotel. Same system, with few differences:

1) No spend limit. So people just select girls and leave immediately, club is empty. 1 beer 150 k.

2) ST (2 h) 4 m ($172), LT (until 6 am) 5,5 m ($236).

3) Night club is hidden. You will not find it except if guided by someone from hotel (and it is not on G floor actually).

4) only 10 girls to choose from (Fortuna has 40+ I believe).

And you still have to pay 1 m for girl company, deal with mamasan money demands, and pay 1 mln to leave the place if you decide you don't want sex.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2807025]I have lived in Hanoi for 10 years. I am able to speak Vietnamese. There is so much misinformation and terrible places that people go to when they come to Hanoi. If anyone wants to meet up when they come to Hanoi let me know. I can show you around and give you some tips on how things work in Hanoi. I have been on this site for years but decided to make an account.[/QUOTE]Cannot write private message to you, don't know why.

I cannot find place with sex price less than 5 mln here. Can you give some advice?

5 m is 7 x Pattaya Beach Walk prices, while Vietnam has twice less nominal GDP / capita comparing to Thailand, it should be much cheaper.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2807029]I live in Hanoi for the last 10 years. That is just one of the sites. We have better ones here. All the girls use photoshop for the pictures. There are better ways for girls than those sites. There are some good ones on there but have to read the reviews. I am able to read Viet so it is easier for me. Any help just let me know.[/QUOTE]Do you have experience for mongering in Saigon?

I was looking for a premium Nuru experience. And saw the site for J Nuru Massage. It's located just a little south of Hanoi's Old Town. Inside a park like complex, in a building on a lake. Using Grab I was dropped off at the park gate, and walked the short driveway. While walking some security guys mentioned "Spa?" and walked me to the section of the building the Spa uses, put me in a elevator and sent me up. Above, a worker intercepted me, and walked me to a big opening, filled with massage chairs, and the manager who spoke really good English welcomed me. And informed me of their system. I initally was going to go with the "Luxury" but after talking to him changed to the "King" reason being is that the King for 1. 2 mil comes with a you and girl bath. The Luxury, just has a table shower. It also comes with 2 glasses of basic wine and snack. Which didn't really matter. After being escorted back, they sent in the girl. In Vietnam I think the standard system is they send a girl, and you decide if you wish to keep. If not they send another. Went with the first, a long hair natural thin beauty. "No Silicon!" She told me. And left my 1. 2 + 1 million on the night stand. Clean and lux facilities. Check out their website, it's pretty clear and that's really what it looks like. Had a nice bath with her, she took her time cleaning me up. Switched to table, gave a nice little massage, did a nice nuru experience with the real nuru gel. She had a good attitude the whole time. No full service allowed though, there was upsell offered to CIM, but I declined. After, took me back the main waiting area, offered tea / water. And offered to have me relax in the massage chair until I was ready to leave at my leisure. Nice place, enjoyed the experience. And yeah it did have that luxury type pampered experience I was after. Left and took a grab back.

[QUOTE=HelloIm;2807469]Do you have experience for mongering in Saigon?[/QUOTE]Yes, but I don't like it, Hanoi is much better but it is very different how things work here.

[QUOTE=Ablaze001;2807357]Cannot write private message to you, don't know why.

I cannot find place with sex price less than 5 mln here. Can you give some advice?

5 m is 7 x Pattaya Beach Walk prices, while Vietnam has twice less nominal GDP / capita comparing to Thailand, it should be much cheaper.[/QUOTE]How do I get my pm able to receive? Who can turn it on? Vietnam prices range dramatically, I know places as cheap as $8 and up to $250 depends what you want. Average for something really hot $20-35, but these are local prices, I speak Vietnamese and know my way around etc etc, as a foreigner things are different if you can't communicate but there are tons of options here for anything and everything. I am constantly discovering little pockets of action, its great!

[QUOTE=Ablaze001;2807002]Based on your recommendations, I decided to stay in the Fortuna hotel.

Went to the basement club, and ordered one beer. Been brought 7 cans - 150,000 each (market price 15,000). They explained this by "minimum spend limit" - I have to order for 1 mln. That is ok, but I prefer to choose what to order myself.

Girl who joined me offered to get to my room for 3 mln. She was nice, so I agreed and asked for the bill.

The bill was 2,000,000 - I have to pay for her sitting with me 1 mln more, and it is not included in her 3 mln price!

Still ok. Looks like a bar fine, I should be warned in advance, but ok.

But then mamasan demanded payment for herself! Then I refused. She took my wallet and took several 200,000 bills! It is not ok!

I said I do not want to deal with them, and that I want leave immediately. And they said I cannot! If I do not take the girl with me. I have to pay 1 mln more, or they will not allow me to leave! Thai is totally not OK![/QUOTE]Stay away from that place, that is for people that have no idea where to go or what to do, complete rip off.

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;2802387]I'm in Hanoi now. Anybody cares to meet at a cheap HTGD with nice girls? Please PM me.[/QUOTE]I can show you some good spots, send me a message.

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[QUOTE=Mitchell123;2800596]Any places with gtd fuck in HaNoi, so far only found the SPA in Hanoi Hotel (2 RHC+4 HG D8, P. Giảng V, Giảng V, Ba Đnh, Hanoi 10000, Vietnam).

It's alright, nice facilities, but girls are 7's at bests, room are dark and the girls ask 2 M.[/QUOTE]Tons of places here, are you still here?

[QUOTE=Ablaze001;2807357]Cannot write private message to you, don't know why.

I cannot find place with sex price less than 5 mln here. Can you give some advice?

5 m is 7 x Pattaya Beach Walk prices, while Vietnam has twice less nominal GDP / capita comparing to Thailand, it should be much cheaper.[/QUOTE]Try the spa inside Grand Vista hotel on Giang Vo street. Many beautiful girls to choose, just tell the guys at the reception of your preferences. You should visit the place after 2-3 pm, that's when most girls will start working so you'll have more options.

Basic entrance fee is 700 k VND, tips for the girls depend on what she would do with you. ATW (all the way) is possible (which is not very common in spas in Hanoi because it's generally forbidden for the therapists to provide ATW). Normal service (HJ, BJ.) is around 1 mil and ATW is 2-3 mil. Most girls are available for outcalls also, just get her number and she'll come to your place (hotel room if you're a visitor here, or you can rent a hourly room at those cheap motels).

Going Hanoi next week. Any activity around Bac Ninh area? More interest in barbershop BJ or nuru.

Fortuna hotels are owned by Singaporean interests. Lots of Singaporean, Korean and Taiwanese business guys stay at the Fortuna and pay for quick access to entertainment and sex with their business expense accounts, but these rip offs are just ridiculous. Of course the pimps, mamasans, management, local LE, government officials, middlemen, Viet mafias ect exploit and abuse the poor girls, keep most of the proceeds and give the girls very little money for selling their bodies. Hotel girls are usually older and hardened, controlled by mafias or security police, have been known to entrap and extort foreigners for intelligence or bribes.

I took a few expensive women from Karaoke dens in big hotels with my business associates. In street light they looked horrible, old and ugly like apes, acted crude and stupid, then their pussies stank so horribly I had to quickly push them out of the room. Damn disgusting.

I just hate these brothels in disguise where everyone have their hands out hustling clients for money like robbers. I would rather deal directly with independent girls who are hot, sweet and sexy but also honest and fair over the organized crime brothels any time. Tens of thousands hot sweet young girls work independently in internet sites. I posted links how to find them before. The government has been looking the other way for internet hook sups. Use Translate and understand that unlike Thailand's old, well developed commercial sex industry, many Viet girls are still afraid of foreigners.

Guys with local connections have access to the most beautiful models, singers, actresses, beauty queens at higher prices but still nowhere near what this Fortuna Fuck Factory's rip offs. Yep. Actresses and beauty queens do escort work for big ballers, a few rings have been busted in recent years.

Mongers should contact guys like HanoiMonger, take time to enjoy the country and its unique culture, also relationships with hot, honest girls without the abuse and coercion of local mafia. Would be a lot more fun and far sweeter and sexier.

Unlike people in HCMC with their fast and loose lifestyles, lots of people in Hanoi still hold their traditional values, living highly principled, moral life. Many beautiful, educated, virtuous, dignified, unmarried women in Hanoi may be open to love and LTRs with foreigners. Be civilized, treat them with love, care, respect and dignity. I had the pleasure of companies of refined girls from the upper class society, educated young professionals, down to illiterate hot peasants, so I think I have some insights into their life.

Checkout the popular cafes and make some friends. Available women tend to hang together in groups for strength. Talk to them and offer to buy them coffees. You will make a lot of quick friends.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2807025]I have lived in Hanoi for 10 years. I am able to speak Vietnamese. There is so much misinformation and terrible places that people go to when they come to Hanoi. If anyone wants to meet up when they come to Hanoi let me know. I can show you around and give you some tips on how things work in Hanoi. I have been on this site for years but decided to make an account.[/QUOTE]Hey would love to meet but I cannot message. Can you help me out our meet at cafe? I'm in old district.

[QUOTE=Sasukeuchiha9;2813043]Hey would love to meet but I cannot message. Can you help me out our meet at cafe? I'm in old district.[/QUOTE]Also interested in Hanoi, I cannot message either.

Planning to go end of May.

[QUOTE=Tigrelic;2813502]Also interested in Hanoi, I cannot message either.

Planning to go end of May.[/QUOTE]I am trying to figure out how to pay to get my messages. Sure we can meet. I am going to message the admin for help.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2809845]Fortuna hotels are owned by Singaporean interests. Lots of Singaporean, Korean and Taiwanese business guys stay at the Fortuna and pay for quick access to entertainment and sex with their business expense accounts, but these rip offs are just ridiculous. Of course the pimps, mamasans, management, local LE, government officials, middlemen, Viet mafias ect exploit and abuse the poor girls, keep most of the proceeds and give the girls very little money for selling their bodies. Hotel girls are usually older and hardened, controlled by mafias or security police, have been known to entrap and extort foreigners for intelligence or bribes.

I took a few expensive women from Karaoke dens in big hotels with my business associates. In street light they looked horrible, old and ugly like apes, acted crude and stupid, then their pussies stank so horribly I had to quickly push them out of the room. Damn disgusting.

I just hate these brothels in disguise where everyone have their hands out hustling clients for money like robbers. I would rather deal directly with independent girls who are hot, sweet and sexy but also honest and fair over the organized crime brothels any time. Tens of thousands hot sweet young girls work independently in internet sites. I posted links how to find them before. The government has been looking the other way for internet hook sups. Use Translate and understand that unlike Thailand's old, well developed commercial sex industry, many Viet girls are still afraid of foreigners.

Guys with local connections have access to the most beautiful models, singers, actresses, beauty queens at higher prices but still nowhere near what this Fortuna Fuck Factory's rip offs. Yep. Actresses and beauty queens do escort work for big ballers, a few rings have been busted in recent years.

Mongers should contact guys like HanoiMonger, take time to enjoy the country and its unique culture, also relationships with hot, honest girls without the abuse and coercion of local mafia. Would be a lot more fun and far sweeter and sexier.

Unlike people in HCMC with their fast and loose lifestyles, lots of people in Hanoi still hold their traditional values, living highly principled, moral life. Many beautiful, educated, virtuous, dignified, unmarried women in Hanoi may be open to love and LTRs with foreigners. Be civilized, treat them with love, care, respect and dignity. I had the pleasure of companies of refined girls from the upper class society, educated young professionals, down to illiterate hot peasants, so I think I have some insights into their life.

Checkout the popular cafes and make some friends. Available women tend to hang together in groups for strength. Talk to them and offer to buy them coffees. You will make a lot of quick friends.[/QUOTE]I agree with everything you said about Fortuna but the one thing you are way off on is Viet girls are afraid of foreigners. That is not the truth in any shape or form. I have had many girlfriends here, hooked up with many random one night stands, when I feel like paying for it, I know where to go, all the places off the beaten path that are not on the internet. Viet girls are very friendly and open to foreigners. A lot of it is the way someone comes off to them, that could be the case with you.

[QUOTE=Climax2U;2809705]Going Hanoi next week. Any activity around Bac Ninh area? More interest in barbershop BJ or nuru.[/QUOTE]Hanoi doesn't have the barber shop experience, that is in HCMC, we have many different places to go just like it though.

Try looking here.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2813830]I am trying to figure out how to pay to get my messages. Sure we can meet. I am going to message the admin for help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2813830]I am trying to figure out how to pay to get my messages. Sure we can meet. I am going to message the admin for help.[/QUOTE]Trip to Hanoi confirmed next week.

I want to look for more day / night escort, GFE types can do tours or restaurants together, she doesn't have to speak English well.

It does seem the easiest way is to just go pick one up at Fortuna? Gaito is all short time?

I was in Hanoi a couple nights recovering from a long flight staying in the Old Quarter. Constantly approached by guys showing me pictures of a naked girl on the phone and offering happy ending. Aside from being too exhausted to partake in anything and headed to greener pastures in Thailand, my assumption is that jumping on the back of the bike would not necessarily result in that happy of an ending with the girl almost certainly not being the same girl and all covered service at best. Luckily Viet touts are so non-aggressive it's very easy to decline.
Anyone taken a trip down this rabbit hole?

I might be mistaken but there is also what appeared to be something resembling a hostess bar on Beer Street, or at least a bar where they paid some hot girls to sit outside and smile at the men passing by.

Beer Street seems a lot like KhaoSan road with loads of patchouli scented backpackers and strange Germans, but Viet girls don't appear to have caught the Farang Fever quite as much.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2817079]I was in Hanoi a couple nights recovering from a long flight staying in the Old Quarter. Constantly approached by guys showing me pictures of a naked girl on the phone and offering happy ending. Aside from being too exhausted to partake in anything and headed to greener pastures in Thailand, my assumption is that jumping on the back of the bike would not necessarily result in that happy of an ending with the girl almost certainly not being the same girl and all covered service at best. Luckily Viet touts are so non-aggressive it's very easy to decline.
Anyone taken a trip down this rabbit hole?

I might be mistaken but there is also what appeared to be something resembling a hostess bar on Beer Street, or at least a bar where they paid some hot girls to sit outside and smile at the men passing by.

Beer Street seems a lot like KhaoSan road with loads of patchouli scented backpackers and strange Germans, but Viet girls don't appear to have caught the Farang Fever quite as much.[/QUOTE]Well not not the most timly reply but I was there 4 years ago and one night fallowed one guy to a massage joint 2 blocks off of the main drag through old town as I had seen him working the same area the previous 3-4 days. The girls where ok not my thing and I had only USD in my pocket so passed on option, but most deals in Hanoi were just people making money so I didn't feel I was ripped off just as most places some deals are better than others and play safe.

[QUOTE=RakSopheni;2817079]I was in Hanoi a couple nights recovering from a long flight staying in the Old Quarter. Constantly approached by guys showing me pictures of a naked girl on the phone and offering happy ending. Aside from being too exhausted to partake in anything and headed to greener pastures in Thailand, my assumption is that jumping on the back of the bike would not necessarily result in that happy of an ending with the girl almost certainly not being the same girl and all covered service at best. Luckily Viet touts are so non-aggressive it's very easy to decline.
Anyone taken a trip down this rabbit hole?

I might be mistaken but there is also what appeared to be something resembling a hostess bar on Beer Street, or at least a bar where they paid some hot girls to sit outside and smile at the men passing by.

Beer Street seems a lot like KhaoSan road with loads of patchouli scented backpackers and strange Germans, but Viet girls don't appear to have caught the Farang Fever quite as much.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Was in Hanoi 2018, got the offers from the touts. Jumped on the back of the bike and was taken round to a BJ place on the edge of the old town. Half a dozen ladies in the back of a nondescript shop. Tout said there was another one if nothing took my fancy, and it didn't. A bit further up the round to the next shop and same same. There were some modestly attractive light skinned late 20's girls, but the price was too steep so I decided to bail. The price tumbled, I can't remember what it was but it ended up at a quarter or so of where it started so I ended up say saying yes. They really sidnt want me to leave without paying at least something. Upstairs with a decent looker, but crap service. She tolerated a bit of groping but didn't get undressed, more handjob than BJ, and zero passion, not that there was ever a chance to build any in that environment and the price negotiation probably meant she didn't get much. There might have been more on offer, idk.

Greetings,

I am seeking pointers to some posts that explain how mongering works in Hanoi. Any pointers would be helpful in doing my homework before I arrive. I am a bit of a MILF lover and any pointers to that specific affliction would be greatly appreciated.

TIA.

Hello brothers,

I am planning a little Asian tour after few months and thinking to stay a week in Hanoi. I am more of a Tinder / Instagram contact person that usually finds a normal working / studying girls that want to have some fun with a passing by tourist.

Wondering what is the usual rate for that kind of company in Hanoi?

To give you an example what I am talking about. I just go back from Philippines and there I found a pretty little angel that I gave something like 250 euro and she joined me for a 4 days while I was exploring the amazing El Nido. Beaches, day trips, bars and clubs in the night. Everything. Then she decided that she likes it too much and stay for 4 more days without wanting any money. More than a week is too much for me, I got bored at the end but I am thinking about spending 2-3 with one girl, then resting a little bit, then repeat. And taking someone with me while exploring for 3 days Ha Long bay.

So for you brothers that have similar preferences as mine, instead of the standard bar girls / street massage parlour, can you share some financial data? I am completely aware that the figure varies greatly depending on many factors, so maybe you could share what it cost you if you've had similar experiences. And I guess something like that can be expected as an average.

BTW my naughty traveling around the world experience started with going to massage parlours and bars but the last few years I prefer to find a horny non-pro girl that is open to some naughty adventures. . It's much more quality time when you're not the next product on the assembly line. Thanks for the info!

[QUOTE=FlyingSparkz;2818109]Greetings,

I am seeking pointers to some posts that explain how mongering works in Hanoi. Any pointers would be helpful in doing my homework before I arrive. I am a bit of a MILF lover and any pointers to that specific affliction would be greatly appreciated.

TIA.[/QUOTE]I'll be in Hanoi next Tuesday-Friday and interested in exploring with other mongers.

I will be in hanoi, 3 weeks from now. Any tips around mongering, decent hostel stays, food and the right hanoi bay cruise would be most helpful.

[QUOTE=LonoGod;2820203]I'll be in Hanoi next Tuesday-Friday and interested in exploring with other mongers.[/QUOTE]

I'm probably going to catch some flak for even going here, but I have my reasons. Neko doesn't offer FS. Nothing I saw at Tom's bar or thereabouts seemed interesting. I'm not a regular traveler to Vietnam on business who has connections. I was just there to have fun, and 95% of what I was focused on was above-board tourism, and I didn't particularly want to waste precious time with apps that may not pan out. Frankly I had more money than time on my hands -so off to try my fortunes at Fortuna. Here's my story.

Night 1: Well first off, their "system" is not ideal, but I suppose I knew that going in. There's a $50 "drinking" fee. I don't know how much drinks it covers, but I never ran up against the ceiling, and knew I probably wouldn't unless drinks were outrageously priced. The $40 "sitting fee" is more objectionable, but at that point it's "in for a penny, in for a pound. " Then there's a "suggested" tip for the mamasan, strongly hinted at around $30-40. You can't simply come in and seat yourself at the bar and peruse the scene the way I would have wanted.

Plus $130 for the girl.

They bring them out in groups of 10 or so, and if you don't like what you see, they bring out another group. So selection is good. I hear there's another room in the back, where they supposedly have "better," "newer" talent. But they said it was "full. " Hmmm. Maybe I should've held out. But I found one smiling young cutie who was acceptable. Looks 7/10, but she was friendly and that helps.

Oh, and there's the matter of the room. My hotel is supposedly "guest friendly," but I'd already asked them for a lot, and I just didn't feel like the hassle of testing it out was worth it. $40 gets you a decent room right there in the hotel. Just to make things hassle-free. Service was good. Body wasn't perfect -once she took off the dress, you could see she wasn't amazingly fit, but again, friendly and enthusiastic. Practically begged me for a second shot (more money, I'm sure). But by then I was good.

Night 2: This time I was determined to hold out for someone really hot, and I would've insisted on seeing the second room if I hadn't found someone who interested me. As it turned out, I did. Looks. 9/10. Maybe 10, depending on what you're into. She also knew some English, which was nice. Says she's a professional who works in a big international firm by day (won't say her name, or what she does, or what firm, and you'll understand why in a minute). But the salary is low, and a friend told her she should try this place and she'd make a lot more money.

Anyway, can't complain about the sex. I think she wanted me to finish quicker, but she definitely tried to put on a good show.

I can just imagine. Your company sends you on a business trip. You're fantasizing about that Viet hottie in say, marketing, and there she is for the asking at Fortuna!

I knew I'd be back in Hanoi one more time mid-week, so at the end, I asked her what my prospects were of running into her again. Unfortunately she said no -like she said, she has a regular job, and only does this on the weekends. Well then. What about meeting up Outside of this place in the middle of the week? She said I can't tell mamasan, because she'd get in trouble if she did that, but basically, Yes. So we exchanged WhatsApp numbers and off I went.

So there is definitely that option -go there, find someone you like, and see if you can arrange to meet elsewhere on her day off. Should definitely cut down on costs.

As it happened, when I came back, I met some people, we went out drinking, and the rest was history. I usually find that if you try and relive the same experience, it rarely lives up to expectations anyway.

So did I overpay? Of course. Some would call it a ripoff, and they're not wrong. Everybody gets their cut -mamasan, the bar, the hotel, probably the mafia. But at the end of the day, you get hassle-free, enthusiastic full service -not with an average-looking girl, but with a real Viet hottie with zero prior time investment.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2808280]How do I get my pm able to receive? Who can turn it on? Vietnam prices range dramatically, I know places as cheap as $8 and up to $250 depends what you want. Average for something really hot $20-35, but these are local prices, I speak Vietnamese and know my way around etc etc, as a foreigner things are different if you can't communicate but there are tons of options here for anything and everything. I am constantly discovering little pockets of action, its great![/QUOTE]Can you post recommendations? Going to VN soon and your messages don't work.

[QUOTE=BRCitizen;2821948]I'm probably going to catch some flak for even going here, but I have my reasons. Neko doesn't offer FS. Nothing I saw at Tom's bar or thereabouts seemed interesting. I'm not a regular traveler to Vietnam on business who has connections. I was just there to have fun, and 95% of what I was focused on was above-board tourism, and I didn't particularly want to waste precious time with apps that may not pan out. Frankly I had more money than time on my hands -so off to try my fortunes at Fortuna. Here's my story.

Night 1: Well first off, their "system" is not ideal, but I suppose I knew that going in. There's a $50 "drinking" fee. I don't know how much drinks it covers, but I never ran up against the ceiling, and knew I probably wouldn't unless drinks were outrageously priced. The $40 "sitting fee" is more objectionable, but at that point it's "in for a penny, in for a pound. " Then there's a "suggested" tip for the mamasan, strongly hinted at around $30-40. You can't simply come in and seat yourself at the bar and peruse the scene the way I would have wanted.

Plus $130 for the girl.

They bring them out in groups of 10 or so, and if you don't like what you see, they bring out another group. So selection is good. I hear there's another room in the back, where they supposedly have "better," "newer" talent. But they said it was "full. " Hmmm. Maybe I should've held out. But I found one smiling young cutie who was acceptable. Looks 7/10, but she was friendly and that helps.

Oh, and there's the matter of the room. My hotel is supposedly "guest friendly," but I'd already asked them for a lot, and I just didn't feel like the hassle of testing it out was worth it. $40 gets you a decent room right there in the hotel. Just to make things hassle-free. Service was good. Body wasn't perfect -once she took off the dress, you could see she wasn't amazingly fit, but again, friendly and enthusiastic. Practically begged me for a second shot (more money, I'm sure). But by then I was good.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing a very detailed Fortuna experience. Totally get why you'd go this route on a short trip. I happen to live here so that wouldn't be the best option for me, however, I do use your method when I visit some massage parlors I visit (getting their # for a follow up visit for FS at a hotel, if they are game). Thanks again!

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2807025]I have lived in Hanoi for 10 years. I am able to speak Vietnamese. There is so much misinformation and terrible places that people go to when they come to Hanoi. If anyone wants to meet up when they come to Hanoi let me know. I can show you around and give you some tips on how things work in Hanoi. I have been on this site for years but decided to make an account.[/QUOTE]Also interested in meeting up if, were you able to unlock messaging?

I am considering a trip to Vietnam. I'm not a billionaire, but I am not on a tight budget either. Having quality experiences with hot Vietnamese women is the priority. For me hot is under 30, no baby, no silicon, no tattoos, and slender.

Reading through the posts in both sections, it seems that before covid the consensus was that HCMC was the better place to monger. But reading more recent posts, you get the impression that there is more fun to be had now in Hanoi. At least Hanoi has the Foruna hotel. What does HCMC have over Hanoi these days?

Hi. There doesn't seem to be a Hanoi hotels thread. Can someone kindly suggest a hotel or two in Hanoi, ideally in the Hanoi Old Quarter, or another lively neighborhood. A nice hotel (the best hotels in Hanoi are not expensive) preferably guest friendly, but nothing overly pretentious. Thanks!

In my view, Little Japan places (like Linh cherry) in Saigon are far better than fortuna hotel in Hanoi. Not sure what's the view of veterans here as I have been to both places only once.

[QUOTE=CanadaWet;2825074]I am considering a trip to Vietnam. I'm not a billionaire, but I am not on a tight budget either. Having quality experiences with hot Vietnamese women is the priority. For me hot is under 30, no baby, no silicon, no tattoos, and slender.

Reading through the posts in both sections, it seems that before covid the consensus was that HCMC was the better place to monger. But reading more recent posts, you get the impression that there is more fun to be had now in Hanoi. At least Hanoi has the Foruna hotel. What does HCMC have over Hanoi these days?[/QUOTE]

This time I had a few Sundays to pursue the hobby. WeChat if your friend. If you are in one of the posh business travel centered hotels, you will get many women adding you. Rates are a bit high 2 m to 2. 5 m for 2 shots in your hotel ROOM. They bring ID and you meet them downstairs and register.

Service was awesome. Looks average. It is convenient as hell.

Civilian vagina is a complete different issue. Fish I caught extracted more money in dining and gifts that what I would have paid for 4 hookers. I will avoid all civilians in my future trips.

Best of luck. Hanoi is alive and well. Be careful do not meet anyone in a strange place. Many cat fishes going around. If the talent forgets to bring ID send them back. It is not worth antagonizing the hotel staff.

Money changers do not advertise and they prefer larger bills. Use grab for taxi and have fun.

WeChat is your friend.

I got 3 excellent encounters from WeChat. Just have them come before the curfew and bring ID. Most know the rules and play well. My guess is that the coof hit tourism industry very hard and there is a lot more fresh talent on the flesh market.

[QUOTE=ScrewMachine;2830058]This time I had a few Sundays to pursue the hobby. WeChat if your friend. If you are in one of the posh business travel centered hotels, you will get many women adding you. Rates are a bit high 2 m to 2. 5 m for 2 shots in your hotel ROOM. They bring ID and you meet them downstairs and register.

Service was awesome. Looks average. It is convenient as hell.

Civilian vagina is a complete different issue. Fish I caught extracted more money in dining and gifts that what I would have paid for 4 hookers. I will avoid all civilians in my future trips.

Best of luck. Hanoi is alive and well. Be careful do not meet anyone in a strange place. Many cat fishes going around. If the talent forgets to bring ID send them back. It is not worth antagonizing the hotel staff.

Money changers do not advertise and they prefer larger bills. Use grab for taxi and have fun.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ablaze001;2807002]Based on your recommendations, I decided to stay in the Fortuna hotel.

Went to the basement club, and ordered one beer. Been brought 7 cans - 150,000 each (market price 15,000). They explained this by "minimum spend limit" - I have to order for 1 mln. That is ok, but I prefer to choose what to order myself.

Girl who joined me offered to get to my room for 3 mln. She was nice, so I agreed and asked for the bill.

The bill was 2,000,000 - I have to pay for her sitting with me 1 mln more, and it is not included in her 3 mln price!

Still ok. Looks like a bar fine, I should be warned in advance, but ok.

But then mamasan demanded payment for herself! Then I refused. She took my wallet and took several 200,000 bills! It is not ok!

I said I do not want to deal with them, and that I want leave immediately. And they said I cannot! If I do not take the girl with me. I have to pay 1 mln more, or they will not allow me to leave! Thai is totally not OK!

I never conflict with locals, so I have paid.

So, less than 1 hour in a mediocre bar and 3 Heineken cans cost me 3 mln.

What do you think? Should I be paying 1 mln to mamasan too? Do you think 6 mln for ST is a good bargain?[/QUOTE]Such a rip off at Fortuna.

I have been to Kiev in Ukraine always but sadly now it is under war. I am trying to go for Hanoi now as I like Chinese type of fair girls. I think Hanoi is near China as compared to HCMC and so ending up going to Hanoi even though HCMC has better monger facilities.

Let me know if Hanoi has fairer girls than HCMC.

Heading to Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh soon.

Has anyone used Massage Republic or City of Love Escorts. They have many ads for each city and prices are varied. Hoping to find a local, possibly from one of these services to act as a tour guide and GFE. Willing to pay for 24 HR service, hoping someone on this board has knowledge and or experience of this arrangement. I have been on a couple of dating sites, but appears to be too much hassle and drama on these.

Thanks.

I'm in Hanoi. Where can I pick freelancers off the road? Also, what is the price point I should look at? I would not like to pay more than 800,000 dong for st.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2813830]I am trying to figure out how to pay to get my messages. Sure we can meet. I am going to message the admin for help.[/QUOTE]Bitcoin works well if you can get some. I think we'd all donate a bit for your DM capabilities at this point, as it's not much money. Haha!

I'll be going to Hanoi soon myself and would be down to meet you. Cheers.

[QUOTE=MDave1981;2842412]I'm in Hanoi. Where can I pick freelancers off the road? Also, what is the price point I should look at? I would not like to pay more than 800,000 dong for st.[/QUOTE]Anywhere between 500 k to 1000 k for st is normal. At some shops cartering foreigners they charge 1000-2000 k for st. But to be honest, even for 300 k you can find decent girls for a good release. Nothing beats release in a good looking MILF for 300 k.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2813830]I am trying to figure out how to pay to get my messages. Sure we can meet. I am going to message the admin for help.[/QUOTE]HanoiMonger, Are you still active in this forum? I just arrived in Hanoi for a long-term gig and would like to buy you a subscription for PMs if you can show me around to your favorite places.

[QUOTE=TangoTomorrow;2846095]HanoiMonger, Are you still active in this forum? I just arrived in Hanoi for a long-term gig and would like to buy you a subscription for PMs if you can show me around to your favorite places.[/QUOTE]Hi guys,

Would also be willing to meet this Monday if interested!?

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I have read the Forum here, and it sounds like Hanoi is pretty bleak right now.

You would have to desperate to go to Fortuna, with their million dong beers, and $40 mamasan tips.

WeChat is always a risk, and nobody is posting about the hotels that accept female guests that you find on WeChat. Another red flag.

When a forum has more general questions than reports of actual experience, that's a red flag.

Bummer for me since I will be in Hanoi soon.

I have read the Forum here, and it sounds like Hanoi is pretty bleak right now.

You would have to desperate to go to Fortuna, with their million dong beers, and $40 mamasan tips.

WeChat is always a risk, and nobody is posting about the hotels that accept female guests that you find on WeChat. Another red flag.

When a forum has more general questions than reports of actual experience, that's a red flag.

Bummer for me since I will be in Hanoi soon.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2807029]I live in Hanoi for the last 10 years. That is just one of the sites. We have better ones here. All the girls use photoshop for the pictures. There are better ways for girls than those sites. There are some good ones on there but have to read the reviews. I am able to read Viet so it is easier for me. Any help just let me know.[/QUOTE]What sites would you recommend using? Can always use Translate for the sites only in Viet. Much appreciated!

Recent arrival to Hanoi and first two experiences not good. First one, met on Line, negotiated a price. She came to my hotel. Mistake to go directly to my room and not force her to leave ID at front desk. Once in my room, no kissing (even though she agreed on Line), no BBJ (again, promised beforehand on Line), fake cartoon tits. After I protested, she stopped after 1 minute, put on her clothes and threatened to call someone if I didn't pay the full amount. I didn't want trouble and just paid, but was fuming.

Second experience, met someone on Kynuvienet. Went to cheap hotel, was overcharged for the room. Girl who showed up was not the same one in photo. She was older, shorter, fatter than photo. It was only 500 VND so I just did the deed and paid quickly and left. Be careful of fake photos on the websites, even ones with good reviews.

Overall a bit disappointed. The women in this country are beautiful, though.

I have been to J massage multiple times. The experience always is a hit or miss. Can you guys recommend any other place for nuru or recommend a girl at J?

[QUOTE=BRCitizen;2821948]I'm probably going to catch some flak for even going here, but I have my reasons. Neko doesn't offer FS. Nothing I saw at Tom's bar or thereabouts seemed interesting. I'm not a regular traveler to Vietnam on business who has connections. I was just there to have fun, and 95% of what I was focused on was above-board tourism, and I didn't particularly want to waste precious time with apps that may not pan out. Frankly I had more money than time on my hands -so off to try my fortunes at Fortuna. Here's my story.

Night 1: Well first off, their "system" is not ideal, but I suppose I knew that going in. There's a $50 "drinking" fee. I don't know how much drinks it covers, but I never ran up against the ceiling, and knew I probably wouldn't unless drinks were outrageously priced. The $40 "sitting fee" is more objectionable, but at that point it's "in for a penny, in for a pound. " Then there's a "suggested" tip for the mamasan, strongly hinted at around $30-40. You can't simply come in and seat yourself at the bar and peruse the scene the way I would have wanted.

Plus $130 for the girl.

They bring them out in groups of 10 or so, and if you don't like what you see, they bring out another group. So selection is good. I hear there's another room in the back, where they supposedly have "better," "newer" talent. But they said it was "full. " Hmmm. Maybe I should've held out. But I found one smiling young cutie who was acceptable. Looks 7/10, but she was friendly and that helps.

Oh, and there's the matter of the room. My hotel is supposedly "guest friendly," but I'd already asked them for a lot, and I just didn't feel like the hassle of testing it out was worth it. $40 gets you a decent room right there in the hotel. Just to make things hassle-free. Service was good. Body wasn't perfect -once she took off the dress, you could see she wasn't amazingly fit, but again, friendly and enthusiastic. Practically begged me for a second shot (more money, I'm sure). But by then I was good.

Night 2: This time I was determined to hold out for someone really hot, and I would've insisted on seeing the second room if I hadn't found someone who interested me. As it turned out, I did. Looks. 9/10. Maybe 10, depending on what you're into. She also knew some English, which was nice. Says she's a professional who works in a big international firm by day (won't say her name, or what she does, or what firm, and you'll understand why in a minute). But the salary is low, and a friend told her she should try this place and she'd make a lot more money.

Anyway, can't complain about the sex. I think she wanted me to finish quicker, but she definitely tried to put on a good show.

I can just imagine. Your company sends you on a business trip. You're fantasizing about that Viet hottie in say, marketing, and there she is for the asking at Fortuna!

I knew I'd be back in Hanoi one more time mid-week, so at the end, I asked her what my prospects were of running into her again. Unfortunately she said no -like she said, she has a regular job, and only does this on the weekends. Well then. What about meeting up Outside of this place in the middle of the week? She said I can't tell mamasan, because she'd get in trouble if she did that, but basically, Yes. So we exchanged WhatsApp numbers and off I went.

So there is definitely that option -go there, find someone you like, and see if you can arrange to meet elsewhere on her day off. Should definitely cut down on costs.

As it happened, when I came back, I met some people, we went out drinking, and the rest was history. I usually find that if you try and relive the same experience, it rarely lives up to expectations anyway.

So did I overpay? Of course. Some would call it a ripoff, and they're not wrong. Everybody gets their cut -mamasan, the bar, the hotel, probably the mafia. But at the end of the day, you get hassle-free, enthusiastic full service -not with an average-looking girl, but with a real Viet hottie with zero prior time investment.[/QUOTE]You'd have to be either very ignorant or a mug to go to the Boss Club in Fortuna now. This *used* to be a phenomenal place back in the day and was once my default choice of venue. Then they introduced minimum pricing policies at least 10 years ago. It was then that I decided to bow out of this place for good.

Price is not really a good way to infer quality of service. I have had my share of duds in this place as well as star performers (think wife material). At other end of the market, I've been in the Old Quarter and picked up moto girls for just $20 and had a mindblowing time. Mind you, that's 2007 prices. Could be a little more now.

Gent's first time going to Hanoi and was wondering if anyone could give any recommendations on what areas to stay at or hotels to stay at that is lively vibrant and close to p4 p action. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

GV.

Can someone explain why Hanoi and Ho Chi Ming is so different in nightlife?

[QUOTE=Golds;2861934]Can someone explain why Hanoi and Ho Chi Ming is so different in nightlife?[/QUOTE]A lot of it has to do with cultural differences. See back during the Vietnam War, the North (Hanoi) was communist and more conservative. The South (Saigon) was invaded by western troops. Women flocked to Saigon for the soldiers and the riches to be had from them. The tradition has mostly stayed over the years. Also HCMC is far closer to other sex life hot spots like Phnom Penh and Bangkok.

[QUOTE=Golds;2861934]Can someone explain why Hanoi and Ho Chi Ming is so different in nightlife?[/QUOTE]When I meet a Viet girl I say North or South. If they say south I say good. If its North I walk, usually. Its the whole mentality linking the cultural / economic conditions based on the Viet War as stated.

If you are taking to a girl from HCM always call the city Saigon. You'll gain mickey mouse points. Southerners strongly dislike people from the North for obvious reasons.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2813831]I agree with everything you said about Fortuna but the one thing you are way off on is Viet girls are afraid of foreigners. That is not the truth in any shape or form. I have had many girlfriends here, hooked up with many random one night stands, when I feel like paying for it, I know where to go, all the places off the beaten path that are not on the internet. Viet girls are very friendly and open to foreigners. A lot of it is the way someone comes off to them, that could be the case with you.[/QUOTE]I will be in Hanoi on 30 Nov. Lets go for a drink if you are at Hanoi.

[QUOTE=ThrowAway3602;2862020]A lot of it has to do with cultural differences. See back during the Vietnam War, the North (Hanoi) was communist and more conservative. The South (Saigon) was invaded by western troops. Women flocked to Saigon for the soldiers and the riches to be had from them. The tradition has mostly stayed over the years. Also HCMC is far closer to other sex life hot spots like Phnom Penh and Bangkok.[/QUOTE]I have been many times in Vietnam over the last thirty years, north an south.

Just for a start, but I will not waste my time on you. It has been the French ho started the hole misery.

I just posted some info about HCMC with escort sites listing 20 K+ escorts in HCMC alone, also thousands more in Hanoi and other major cities.

The tips should work for Hanoi. SearCh under: GAI GOI" try to work them with Translate. They provide the girls' direct tels for booking. Text them with a Viet SIM. It works better.

GAIGU10. TV.

[URL]https://gaigoivietnam.org/ky-nu-q9/[/URL]

Have to agree, doesn't know what he is on about. I first went in 1995, probably 30 visits since. I won't go into the country wide rise in prices and deterioration of quality and service. You probably have seen it as well. I am curious as to what misery you are talking about. Colonization in general or war? The French were booted almost 70 years back.

Hello Hanoi Guys.

Hope you out there fine and well with all the exciting events.

Plan to visit Hanoi next month probably early of December for a work visit and pleasure.

Glad if any member available to guide and share info over a drink in Hanoi.

Kinna silent lately for me as I focus more on YONI MASSAGE here and having my scandel.

Thanks for any respond.

Mr DaengISG.

Well guys,

Seem already few days since my posting to visit Hanoi, WONDER where the Guys Regular in HANOI goes.

Few reading in this thread seem no Listed Trusted Info to gain or share.

If any of you regular in Hanoi and have few free time, I looking forward few review of any trusted site location service and info of the damage.

HANOI is a great place to be as in have been visiting Ho Chin Meng before but due to tight schedule, I can't squeezy for happy hours.

Hope my coming visit, I shall not disappointed.

Me,

DaengISG.

I'm planning a trip to this beautiful country soon. Just saw a bunch of pics available in the threads. Intrigued by the common thing in most pics that girls keep a small Bush above the pussy.

Is this a trend here? BTW I love that neatly kept Bush.

Cheers,

Rahul.

Chinese and Vietnamese believe women with bald pussies are bad luck to those interacting with them.

So women here will never go bald. Young girls have thin bushes; older women have thicker bushes, most times trimmed, but sometimes untrimmed and left overgrown like jungles.

You can have lots of bushes in Vietnam.

The cause and effects of prostitution in Vietnam are less likely anything long term like the war, but more immediate, like corruption of local law enforcement when they have the chance.

Hanoi and Beijing are the capitals of 2 authoritarian communist countries, where top government leaders live and work.

In both cities the leaders can see what's happening first hand, therefore policing is stricter and laws are far more seriously enforced, compared to cities far away like HCMC and ShenZhen.

Huahin in Thailand is where the king and his family sometimes vacation, therefore prostitution is severely curtailed there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871977]Chinese and Vietnamese believe women with bald pussies are bad luck to those interacting with them.

So women here will never go bald. Young girls have thin bushes; older women have thicker bushes, most times trimmed, but sometimes untrimmed and left overgrown like jungles.

You can have lots of bushes in Vietnam.[/QUOTE]Not sure where you get this information. I have lived in Hanoi for almost 11 years, I speak Viet and I bang tons of girls here. Most have completely bald pussies.

[QUOTE=Daeng;2868062]Well guys,

Seem already few days since my posting to visit Hanoi, WONDER where the Guys Regular in HANOI goes.

Few reading in this thread seem no Listed Trusted Info to gain or share.

If any of you regular in Hanoi and have few free time, I looking forward few review of any trusted site location service and info of the damage.

HANOI is a great place to be as in have been visiting Ho Chin Meng before but due to tight schedule, I can't squeezy for happy hours.

Hope my coming visit, I shall not disappointed.

Me,

DaengISG.[/QUOTE]I am an expert on the Hanoi scene, lots of great areas! Just depends what you want.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2873542]I am an expert on the Hanoi scene, lots of great areas! Just depends what you want.[/QUOTE]I live in Hanoi.

I can speak enough Vietnamese to talk about simple things.

I do use the websites to visit ladies and had some freelances visit my apartment. Some I've known several years.

Finding anal for just a couple minutes of a session seems difficult.

Any ways to find anal more easily in Hanoi?

First time in Hanoi in 5 years and last time didn't have time for fun. This time was great. As usual, everything gets more crowded, but food is as great as ever and mongering is a little more easier. J Spa is excellent and professional and clean. There was a lot of construction in the building, so mildly difficult to navigate, but lots of security guards who will help you and they all know where you are going LOL! I did the Emperor massage. For the experience and there were many options from pictures on the tablet; I chose an 18-yo masseuse recommended by the manager and her partner who was pretty, a little older and more experienced, obviously teaching the young one what to do. She had very nicely done, large man-made breasts and the young one was all-natural. Excellent service and attitude and I gave a tip to both. You get exactly what is described in the price list. [URL]https://jspamassage.com/en/161-2/[/URL].

This was kind of interesting. In the hotel spa, you get the same service as J spa, massage / BJ. However, since I was staying in the hotel, I was allowed to have massage in my room. However, I was not allowed to pick the masseuse, who was not that attractive, but did offer FS. I don't think her picture was on the tablet of masseuses available in the spa. A friend had arrived in Hanoi a day earlier than me and had gone to the spa and was only offered the massage / BJ. BUT when he wanted an in-room massage, he was allowed to choose the girl he had already had in the spa, who was pretty and in the room, he was offered FS.

Yes, yes, yes. Everything that is posted about this place is true. It is probably the most expensive option in Hanoi. Yes, the manager wants a tip. But yes, there is a huge line-up to choose from and some very pretty girls. I would also suggest, you have to come early, definitely before 10 and probably better before 8 for best choice. We ended up getting a karaoke room and bottle sevice. Partially for singing and talking and partially to see what we were getting, the main room is really loud and very dark. Also, we didn't have to count the number of drinks. For the line-up, they sent around 7 girls at a time. Again, it was great to have a clear view of what was available, when I went through the main entrance it seemed that everyone was incredible looking, when I saw them come up to the room with better lighting, it was clear that there many were just average. And that 's not what I was there for!

If I was staying in Hanoi for awhile, I might not come to the club and instead shop around, knowing that I will have some off nights. For those who are in town for a short time and don't want to take the chance of an off night and are willing to pay the price, I would recommend this place.

Big Karaoke joints in Hanoi and HCMC are big rip offs, catering to Chinese, Korean, Taiwanese business guys with bribes and entertainment budgets to burn.

It's ridiculous everyone had their hands out for tips. These places are so dark and music ear splitting. I took a girl back to the hotel she looked horrible like an ape in bright light, her pussy stank extremely disgusting. Had to kick her out quickly.

Avoid bars and clubs and search on line where thousands nice, clean, fresh, pretty girls are avail for 10% club rates.

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It says FS, no need to tip the staff.

Neko Massage 29 De La Thanh campus is the first establishment of our Neko Massage chain, the business motto since the opening of that shop is PRICE must be standard. Service must be classy, so those who have experienced at our facility are very assured to introduce to partners, friends.

Highlights of the facility: Staff:

Many beautiful girls for you to choose from, all 3 domains, super service, including Quail Egg Stone, Shovel Baby Fuel Tank, 69, pluck herd, both BJ, HJ, cow ants, Nuru essential oil. In addition, the children also have regular health check-ups, so they can rest assured to have fun coming to the wharf.

- Cost: Publicize the fare. Tip, no surcharge outside the menu, no need to spend more money for the receptionist, staff to choose beautiful girls, choose and change staff comfortably, until the doctors are satisfied.

- Location: City center, 2 fronts (De La Thanh and O Cho Dua), with car parking. After entering the lobby, the brothers told the receptionist to lead to the 4th floor to enter Neko's headquarters.

- CSVC: Japanese style, luxury, sophistication targeting the high-end massage experience segment Service packages (with price list).

- VIP package. Ticket: 600 k .

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2873541]Not sure where you get this information. I have lived in Hanoi for almost 11 years, I speak Viet and I bang tons of girls here. Most have completely bald pussies.[/QUOTE]I am happy to hear that. However, I've been reviewing Saigon girls on gaito for an upcoming trip and the majority are NOT shaved. Is there a difference between Hanoi and Saigon girls?

P.S. - I've mongered in many countries but not Vietnam.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2871977]Chinese and Vietnamese believe women with bald pussies are bad luck to those interacting with them.

So women here will never go bald. Young girls have thin bushes; older women have thicker bushes, most times trimmed, but sometimes untrimmed and left overgrown like jungles.

You can have lots of bushes in Vietnam.[/QUOTE]I have heard that mainland Chinese men don't like hair nor do they eat pussy. And we all know they have NO GAME haha.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2873541]Not sure where you get this information. I have lived in Hanoi for almost 11 years, I speak Viet and I bang tons of girls here. Most have completely bald pussies.[/QUOTE]I am happy to hear that. However, I've been reviewing Saigon girls on gaito for an upcoming trip and the majority are NOT shaved. Is there a difference between Hanoi and Saigon girls?

P.S. - I've mongered in many countries but not Vietnam.

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2860471]Gent's first time going to Hanoi and was wondering if anyone could give any recommendations on what areas to stay at or hotels to stay at that is lively vibrant and close to p4 p action. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

GV.[/QUOTE]I will be following your foot steps soon. Any intel you or someone else here wants to share. Specially where to stay and search for talent?

Just Twenty five USD for all in. Where do I sign up?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2882283][URL]https://thiendia1.cc/diendan/threads/neko-massage-29-de-la-thanh-tuyet-dinh-massage-ha-noi.1185286/[/URL]

It says FS, no need to tip the staff.

Neko Massage 29 De La Thanh campus is the first establishment of our Neko Massage chain, the business motto since the opening of that shop is PRICE must be standard. Service must be classy, so those who have experienced at our facility are very assured to introduce to partners, friends.

Highlights of the facility: Staff:

Many beautiful girls for you to choose from, all 3 domains, super service, including Quail Egg Stone, Shovel Baby Fuel Tank, 69, pluck herd, both BJ, HJ, cow ants, Nuru essential oil. In addition, the children also have regular health check-ups, so they can rest assured to have fun coming to the wharf.

- Cost: Publicize the fare. Tip, no surcharge outside the menu, no need to spend more money for the receptionist, staff to choose beautiful girls, choose and change staff comfortably, until the doctors are satisfied.

- Location: City center, 2 fronts (De La Thanh and O Cho Dua), with car parking. After entering the lobby, the brothers told the receptionist to lead to the 4th floor to enter Neko's headquarters.

- CSVC: Japanese style, luxury, sophistication targeting the high-end massage experience segment Service packages (with price list).

- VIP package. Ticket: 600 k .[/QUOTE]

She started working at 9 AM, gave me hotels name and address, about 5,6 miles from Old Town, $5 Grab car.

She advert everything 400 K or $18, nice, clean hotel $5 for 2 hours. She showed up in 5 minutes, young and pretty, nice clean, soft smooth clear skin, natural A cups. It was her answering tel and text, no bait and switch, prettier than the pic.

She refused mouth kiss. I was sucking her tits toying her clit until she was squirming and moaning. She gave a weak BBBJ, put on a condom and we made passionate love. She was wet and snug, had her eyes closed, bucking hip, moaning softly.

I stay at hotel A25 on Luong Ngoc Quyen next to Ta Hien beer street. Couple girls asked to go to rooms, showed their IDs and quickly walked right in, nothing recorded. Looks like they were doing 3 somes.

Still waiting to hook up with more girls.

Booked her in the afternoon, set a time with her, took a bus from Old Town to Cau Giay, 8 K to go about 8 miles in extremely heavy and chaotic commuter traffic, in which Grab cars cannot go any faster.

Cau Giay has always been a decadent working-class district, traditionally with lots of hoes houses and entertainment venues stretching back to early 1900's, where corrupt old men went to smoke opium, sang with geishas, screwed young girls and talked shit with their friends about their bullshit battles against Chinese, French, Japanese invaders for their kings, when in fact they were only beating up their sick old wives and weak young kids. I am eating local food and screwing hot girls with full historical and cultural perspectives, just like Anthony Bourdain, hehe.

Google Maps showed a short walk to bus stop. Bus runs every 10,15 minutes. Bus drivers were aggressive, competing against thousands of moto and car drivers on busy, narrow streets, lurching into intersections, blocking traffic, blowing their extremely loud horns every 5 minutes like they own the streets. Got off at bus stop half a mile from hotel, negotiated with a moto driver for a 20 K or 75-cent ride. Turned out Maps was wrong. Hotel was in an alley about 3 miles back. Driver knew I was going for girl. Felt bad for his long ride for only 20 K but I had no more small change to tip him.

Love hotel was again 150 K for up to 2 hours, nice, clean with towels. Couple local guys were riding the elevator up to screw girls. Thuy Linh lives on the high floor, asked me to shower before she comes down.

Her only pic in the web looked like a fresh young girl, 400 K too good to be true. She showed up looking about 10 years older with fake be cups, large tats on shoulder and back, not my fav, but looked nice enough for sex. Mod showed her pic unconfirmed. So girls with only 1 pic or no pic are suspects.

She was very horny and sexy, got turned on red, hot with just a little foreplay. She smelled nice and clean, no bad odors, commented my dick was big, gave me a strong BBBJ with lots of suction until I was ready to pop and had to ask her to stop. These girls are nice, clean, hot that I quickly got erected.

She got on top ramming me hard with her wet and tight pussy, breathing heavily, moaned and groaned, having a better time than I did. This girl was a horny sex fiend, had to ask her to slow down a few times.

Had a long, sexy energetic session with this horny girl. She took 400 K not asking for tip. Seems tips are not the norm in Vietnam And Thailand. She said guys do her all night for 3 Mil or about $120. Not sure if I could survive a whole night with this horny girl. I would do all night only with the hottest, nicest, gentlest girls, wine, dine, party, tour city.

Girls were all avail at the time I wanted. Looks like they were hungry for business. Will leave out girls without full body pics.

Had a sexy session with a horny girl full of local flavors.

Saturday night Ta Hien Beer Street was packed tight with thousands young people drink and eat on the streets. I did not want ride out to Cau Giay again so searched the sites for girls in Hoan Kiem and Long Bien. Gaigu11. Tv, gaito1. VIP, Thiendia1. CC list thousands girls with hot sexy pics and videos in Hanoi.

Long Bien is East of Hanoi, across the Long Bien bridge over the Red river, which US attack jets dumped hundreds thousand tons of bombs in the 70's but could not break. It's a seedy and dusty area with hundreds of fuck hotels along the main street.

The room was 120 K for 2 hours, well-worn room, not as nice as others. An old ugly and chunky woman showed up. I got pissed off, told her I hated bait and switch and would leave. She said Quynh Nhu was eating and would show up in a few minutes. She showed up looking like the pic but had gained about 15 lbs in her big butt and thick thighs. I told her I only wanted pretty spinner. She said she would send her friend down.

Khanh Ly showed a skinny woman in mid to late 30's. I told her I only wanted young slim spinners. She said a hot young spinner in the house wanted 1. 3 M, about $50, was busy with 3 other guys waiting. She said she would do me for a discount 200 K or $8. I was running out of time so told her to go in the room.

Her body was aged, soft and mushy with small droopy A cups. She wanted me to wash my dick then gave me a long, slurpy BBBJ. I was only semi erect due to her lack of youthfulness and beauty.

She got on top did a credible cowboy. Unpinned her down for mish, ramming her hard for a long time, shaking the bed. She was grabbing my butt with her feet, pulling me in, grunting loudly. She said she already came. I did not feel passionate we with her so was only semi erect, could not pop, kept on ramming her hard. She was making loud noise, then said she came again.

I popped but felt no passion for her so would never repeat. Hotel called a taxi to make me back, only 43 K or $1. 50 ride. Cau Giay has a lot prettier young girls in.

Nekumassage. Vn.

29 La Thang, Dong the Dist, Hanoi.

Saturday night I loaded down with $9 ayce Viet Kor grill Wagyu beef, delish and good value, preparing for hot sex with more sexy girls, planning to check out Neko.

It's on 4 tj floor of a modern bldg on a major street about 5 miles West of Old Town, $5 Grab Car ride, about half a mile past the US Embassy on Lang Ha. You may even find a few old CIA station guys with fried brains and limp dicks hang out in Neko all day all night, allegedly recruiting mercenaries for the upcoming war against the rude, stupid, nasty, greedy Chinese bullies.

Couple guys were in front of building, welcomed me to 4th floor.

Reception guy presented me with deals. I picked the basic, 600 K for 1 HR room plus 600 K tip for 1 hour nuru with a girl, flat rate, no haggling, no dickering with hoes as usual in Vietnam. Their web site stated girls regularly tested for diseases, guaranteeing guys safe, hot times, implied BB FS. I told the guy I have to be able to pick the right girl, would walk if he does not have hot ones.

Neko has a dozen massage rooms and a large karaoke room, quiet, not much business. Hall ways are covered with wet shiny pebbles.

Saw an Indian guy walk out with a girl looking drained and stressed.

Room was small, well worn, wet and damp with a single massage table, small shower and bath tub, smelling moldy, musty with paint peeling and mold growing on walls.

He brought in 3 girls, small spinners looking homely, unhappy with an attitude, one sporting large tats on hip. I told him to bring in more. The next 3 were chunkier, cruder, all with more larger uglier tats. I was disgusted, told the guy to bring back the last spinner in the red dress.

She quickly came back, drew a bath, asked me to take my clothes off. I took mine off, squeezing her tiny padded boobs in the red velvet dress, asked her to take her clothes off. She asked what for? I said I wanted to fuck you honey, without your clothes in the way. She said girls here don't fuck. I put my clothes back on, said no fuck I have to cancel.

She called in reception guy. I expected the guy to turn nasty but he was smiling, explained they only do nuru, at most hand or blow job for guys to pop, no fuck.

I walked out to the lobby, eyeing the 4 beefy guys, expecting a fist fight when my retarded CIA station guys were never where I need them, but the guys were cool. I quickly exit to the street.

I will not pay 1.2 Mil or $45 for a hand job in an old, filthy room with an average looking girl when lots of nice, young, sweet, pretty girls are avail on line any time for 400 K or $15 with hot sexy full service.

NEKO Nuru Massage is bullshit, wasting my time, not recommended.

Various sites list Cau Giay with close to 1000 hot girls. I wanted to try Hai Ba Trung district nearer to the hotel, with girls looking nice, slim, pretty, innocent like Quynh Anh in the pic.

HBT dis is about 5 miles South of Old Town, $4 Grab car ride, along the tall dike of Red river. The population used to be dirt poor fishermen but the area has been urbanized with hundreds thousands family restaurants and store fronts selling the same craps nobody buys. I had serious concerns how this country manage to feed the 100-million plus population, not producing anything, only reselling cheap Chinese craps and renting out rooms in fuck motels.

The area is low land with a huge 200-foot wide, dozen miles long drainage canal running through the middle, full of rotten muck like sewage. The motel was grimy bldg in an alley with a large sign showing a leather fuck couch, very suggestive. People just ride their bikes through thin shade, rent ST rooms to fuck hoes. Thousands of fuck motels are everywhere.

Rooms looked old with dingy sheets and towels smelling sweaty. Bathroom was old, run down with mold on walls. This area is like low -class ghetto, compared to new, nice, clean room in Cau Giay. Damn.

Texted Quynh Anh room number, waited a few minutes, she came in an older, crude, chunky country woman in mid 30's, arms and legs bigger than mine hehe, completely different from the sweet young girl in the pics.

I got really pissed off, told her I wanted the hot girl in the pics, I would never fuck someone like her. She argued she looked exactly like the pics, but in real life only about twice as old and twice as thick.

She said she had not been paying Gaito, did not know why they kept listing her. It sounded like stupid bull shit, Gaito alters pics, lists the girls hoping for payment. She wanted moto ride money but I said bullshit to it.

I rode elevator down to the grimy front desk, complained to the guy about old, ugly women using fake pics, had not done anything with her, did not want to pay 100 K room rent. He said he only rented room, had nothing to do with the hoes and I owed money. Shit, wasted my time and money, I was pissed off.

Cau Giay lists close to 800 girls whom I found looking exactly like their pics, nice, clean, pretty, pleasant girls in nice, clean, upscale fuck motels. They seem to be serious and better organized than stupid, ugly old women in the other districts.

Damn. I was pissed off of the shameless baits and switches.

I never had baits and switches in HCMC.

With stupid shenanigans in Hanoi, I will ask girls for video calls before heading out.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2884311].....[/QUOTE]Great field reports. Thanks for the effort and the detail.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2884437]I never had baits and switches in HCMC.

With stupid shenanigans in Hanoi, I will ask girls for video calls before heading out.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reports. Can you give more info about booking? Do you call them just with a regular phone call? Language ability? Also do they tell you where to go or you find your own room and give them the info?

Curious if I would be able to even book anyone with English and a foreign number.

The girls have to deal with lots of guys just window shop, kick tires, not buy, so they are pretty busy and prefer to be brief and quick.

You can use foreign tel. Girls will figure out the foreigners anyway. Use Translate and ask quick questions in their language:

Are you XXX? Them la XXX?

Where is the hotel? Hotel o dau?

ZZ: ZZ OK? ZZ: ZZ gio OK?

They would quickly give you name, address of the hotel and the time they can meet you.

Get to the hotel. Text them the hotel name and room number and wait in the room. They usually show up in 5 to 10 minutes.

Insist on seeing the girl in the picture since some hot girls are busy and may let their fat, ugly friends take the date.

I am planning a trip To Viet Nam next month, I have been to Thailand, Brazil, Mexico, and 3 other South American countries. This is my first time going to Vietnam. I am asking for your advice. Which is the better place for my first time? Your help is appreciated.

HCMC is definitely better for sex with 10 x more girls than Hanoi listed on line.

Lots of Hanoi girls move South to HCMC to work. About 2 out of 3 come from the North. I find it much easier to find and book hot girls without baits and switches like in Hanoi.

Besides a lot more on line girls in HCMC, hundreds girls work in bars and massages in Japan town. Traffic is also better in HCMC.

But everything in Vietnam is fucked up compared to Thailand, where everything is nice, clean, easy, relaxed, safe and cheap.

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2885049]I am planning a trip To Viet Nam next month, I have been to Thailand, Brazil, Mexico, and 3 other South American countries. This is my first time going to Vietnam. I am asking for your advice. Which is the better place for my first time? Your help is appreciated.[/QUOTE]Please see the report I just posted in the HCMC thread. Was a ton of fun, but sorry I can't compare that city to Hanoi as I've not visited the north yet.

Hello everybody! I was wondering if anybody has ever encountered a barbershop which offers massage and a he and other, extra services in Hanoi? Saw some videos on YouTube and was wondering if the concept is real. If yes, where are such shops found? Anything to report?

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2885152]HCMC is definitely better for sex with 10 x more girls than Hanoi listed on line.

Lots of Hanoi girls move South to HCMC to work. About 2 out of 3 come from the North. I find it much easier to find and book hot girls without baits and switches like in Hanoi.

Besides a lot more on line girls in HCMC, hundreds girls work in bars and massages in Japan town. Traffic is also better in HCMC.

But everything in Vietnam is fucked up compared to Thailand, where everything is nice, clean, easy, relaxed, safe and cheap.[/QUOTE]I disagree with this statement. Hanoi is way better than HCMC, you just have to know where to go. Hanoi is a gem.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2886893]I disagree with this statement. Hanoi is way better than HCMC, you just have to know where to go. Hanoi is a gem.[/QUOTE]Want to share any info because it seems pretty limited here.

If you wanted a happy ending a $5 or maybe a $10 tip in US cash dollars was all you needed. Anyone know what it is today?

[QUOTE=TConor;2888114]If you wanted a happy ending a $5 or maybe a $10 tip in US cash dollars was all you needed. Anyone know what it is today?[/QUOTE]It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2892039]It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.[/QUOTE]Will be in Hanoi soon and would love some intel on blow and go places if you're willing to share. I've always found the landscape in Hanoi much more challenging than HCMC, but I've never been a long term resident so don't have the time to explore widely.

I got the impression people don't like tourists that much, they hardly greet when you do first.

They turn away, are not friendly.

[QUOTE=HanoiMongers;2892039]It all depends the quality. I know places in Hanoi you can get sex for 200 k ($8. 20) the girls are gross but it is what it is. There are many blow and go places for $8-12 all over the city. I am an expert here in Hanoi. I speak Vietnamese and I have taken my Viet friends to very out of the way places, they had no idea existed.[/QUOTE]Would be good if you could list your favorite places to hook up with pay girls.

It depends on where you went. Where did you go and what kinds of people you meet? May be you were wearing a flight suit, looking like a be-52 pilot who dropped 1,000 dumb bombs.

On Hanoi during the war.

Hanoi is way too densely populated, difficult to scratch out a living for almost everyone. Life is very hard and people very competitive. Thousands after thousands high-rent store fronts sell the same goods or food with very few buyers. Tens thousands motor bikes, buses, vans, cars rush around on narrow colonial streets, every one trying to seize every inch of the road in front of them regardless of traffic signals or potential accidents. Working people are so stressed and sullied, they don't greet each other even among families, close friends ect.

Went to Neko, one of the top massages in Hanoi near US Embassy. Workers looked depressed, not doing much business. Took a hot girl into the room, got naked while she was filling the tub. When I found out she was not going to screw, I put my clothes back on and bailed. Was expecting a fist fight or at least a nasty confrontation with the 5 reception and security guys, but they were cool, did not get upset or demand payment.

Couple times I took long bus rides from Old Town to Cau Giay district to screw GAITO. ORG girls. People on the roads were neutral, not hostile but not friendly or helpful. Buses are cool since they move as fast as any cars or bikes on narrow, congested streets with drivers blowing their loud horns at encroaching traffic every 2 minutes. I took long bike rides and Grab cars to various red light districts. Drivers were cordial, some even chatty, offering to steer me to good spots where locals go.

Northern girls had more flexible and less aggressive attitudes when dealing with conflicts. Like when I turned them down for not looking like posted pics, they would back down and negotiate for lower rates. One was wailing in disappointment after I turned her down. Southern girls would likely swear obcenities and and try to attack me.

Over all I would rate Hanoi people generally gentle, fun, warm. Saigon is far worse, where people are ruder, more ruthless and offensive, shouting loud obscenities among themselves and with tourists, fighting on the streets. Every time I go out, walking or riding, I actually have to be prepared to fight aggressive, rude, nasty people.

Lacking infrastructure and unique cultural offerings, Vietnam is not a good tourist spot, besides lots of hot girls cheap. Vietnam should manage its prostitution better to bring in tourists and employment to hot girls, raising GDP.

[QUOTE=Golds;2893224]I got the impression people don't like tourists that much, they hardly greet when you do first.

They turn away, are not friendly.[/QUOTE]

I am not talking about massage places, I mean just in general, talking to girls on the streets, tourists are not seen here as guys with a golden dick. They are not really interested in you despite you are loaded with cash. There are other countries in the world with the same poverty but where you as a white guy be treated as a king. They really are not interested. And I don't make a comparison with Thailand because also there the golden years are over.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2893578]It depends on where you went. Where did you go and what kinds of people you meet? May be you were wearing a flight suit, looking like a be-52 pilot who dropped 1,000 dumb bombs.

On Hanoi during the war.

Hanoi is way too densely populated, difficult to scratch out a living for almost everyone. Life is very hard and people very competitive. Thousands after thousands high-rent store fronts sell the same goods or food with very few buyers. Tens thousands motor bikes, buses, vans, cars rush around on narrow colonial streets, every one trying to seize every inch of the road in front of them regardless of traffic signals or potential accidents. Working people are so stressed and sullied, they don't greet each other even among families, close friends ect.

Went to Neko, one of the top massages in Hanoi near US Embassy. Workers looked depressed, not doing much business. Took a hot girl into the room, got naked while she was filling the tub. When I found out she was not going to screw, I put my clothes back on and bailed. Was expecting a fist fight or at least a nasty confrontation with the 5 reception and security guys, but they were cool, did not get upset or demand payment.

Couple times I took long bus rides from Old Town to Cau Giay district to screw GAITO. ORG girls. People on the roads were neutral, not hostile but not friendly or helpful. Buses are cool since they move as fast as any cars or bikes on narrow, congested streets with drivers blowing their loud horns at encroaching traffic every 2 minutes. I took long bike rides and Grab cars to various red light districts. Drivers were cordial, some even chatty, offering to steer me to good spots where locals go.

Northern girls had more flexible and less aggressive attitudes when dealing with conflicts. Like when I turned them down for not looking like posted pics, they would back down and negotiate for lower rates. One was wailing in disappointment after I turned her down. Southern girls would likely swear obcenities and and try to attack me.

Over all I would rate Hanoi people generally gentle, fun, warm. Saigon is far worse, where people are ruder, more ruthless and offensive, shouting loud obscenities among themselves and with tourists, fighting on the streets. Every time I go out, walking or riding, I actually have to be prepared to fight aggressive, rude, nasty people.

Lacking infrastructure and unique cultural offerings, Vietnam is not a good tourist spot, besides lots of hot girls cheap. Vietnam should manage its prostitution better to bring in tourists and employment to hot girls, raising GDP.[/QUOTE]

Hanoi people have character and lots of pride in their heritage. They are not easily impressed by crude foreigners with a few bucks in their pockets.

If you think white guys with a few bucks should be treated like kings, you would be making friends only with the stupidest trash of the world.

Is WeChat still used and reliable to find girls in Hanoi? Visiting soon and curious.

If your reply on my statement is only some massage places and dating sites then you really don't understand what I mean.

Pride can be also put away as arrogance.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2893610]Hanoi people have character and lots of pride in their heritage. They are not easily impressed by crude foreigners with a few bucks in their pockets.

If you think white guys with a few bucks should be treated like kings, you would be making friends only with the stupidest trash of the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JZJustin;2893651]Is WeChat still used and reliable to find girls in Hanoi? Visiting soon and curious.[/QUOTE]I would say yes. I have received quite a lot of invites for massages and 'boom-boom'. Be aware they often bait and switch. I had one recently who had great photos and surprise, surprise, another girl turned up at my hotel. She was still attractive so I had a fairly decent massage, uncovered BJ with a good technique. Price was 1500 k vnd which I know is way over what I should be paying. I was jet lagged and too tired to get into a debate.