Angeles City

Thanks for the feed back guys.

I had my frist night with some AC pussy last night. Found a nice looking girl from La Pasha. Lucky me I could score here, because from the whole line up, she was the only one appealing to my tastes.

I'm getting to understand why everyone likes pussy here. First it's a cheap pussy 1500 PHP is only 22. 50 euros. Kind of a cheap overnight.

Second all Ph. Girls seems to go bareback. Yes everyone likes it BB here, the girls told me, 90%+ of the customers are going BB. But no problem she said "we are getting health check". Riiight

In BKK I've booked about 20 girls from various places, MP like Emmanuelle, Poseidon, GoGo's from NEP, bars from Soi 33, various bar girls. NONE offered BB or let me think BB was possible (well I never kept a girl in BKK more than one night so maybe they offer it afterwards).

Another question I have for you guys. WHERE TO GET A DESCENT MEAL IN AC.

I'm staying at the Pacific Breeze. Friendly staff, sure thing, descent and clean rooms, sure thing too.

But the food. OMG this is terrible.

I had a cheeseburger last night, and for the frist time in my life, I wish I had a dinner at Mc Donalds.

I'm not talking about a 3 stars Gourmet Michelin restaurant (well if you know any give me the adress hehe). But just something descent. I'm willing to shell out 1K + PHP for a descent meal

Another question I saw that the hotel near PB, Orchid Inn I think there are some posters for a poker room. Is that ok to go there, or is it a rip off? Asking because of PB help manual it says, never get to play card games with the locals!

Just trying to find something to do this afternoon as Fields avenue is kind of deserted during the afternoon.

Where to get descent pussy for an afternoon session? I was at the DollHouse yesterday at 3PM, there were only shitty girls.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan] Angeles is nothing but a dump with bar filled with girls.[/QUOTE]Correct, its nothing more than a red light area essentially. You mean you did'nt know that??? You did'nt do your homework my lad!
[QUOTE=Escort Fan] I arrived in the middle of the afternoon so most places were closed, except for the Doll House. I checked it. Honnestly the line up is very poor and three girls rushed to try to get me to barfine them! Problem is, I wouldn't fuck them even if they paid me Compare to Thai girls, this is very poor.[/QUOTE] Its a mistake to judge an afternoon line up (the lowest ebb of the bar day) at ONE bar as representative of ALL Pinay's.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Even for those who actually fuck in AC, let's say for 2 hours a day, what is there to do to occupy the remaining 22 hours. No seaside, no sight seeing, no malls like Siam Paragon. God I'm bored.[/QUOTE] Actually when in AC I fuck 22 hours a day :D
Expats that live in AC will point out that there are things to do there but really it's not a beach resort area and nobody ever pretended that it is.
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Hopefully tonight I'll find some Ph. Girl that will cheer me up![/QUOTE] Oh they will find you, dont worry mate! ;)
[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Can someone who has been to places like BKK explain me what's so great in his opinion about Angeles City? Are the girls providing special services that aren't on the menu in BKK? Are they all stellar in bed? I mean I need to understand, if all of you come here there must be a reason.[/QUOTE] Well, do your homework & go where you WANT to be.
If you want beach resort area + sex then you would be far better off in say, Cebu. Pinay BG's are less business like & more likely to be GFE then their Thai cousins. It depends on what you like as RM said. There is nothing exactly like Pattya in the Phils. AC's attraction is Cost. Lots of pussy at bargain prices... all within meters of your hotel.

Have fun in Cebu!
AV

Dcand4, please correct me if I am getting confused in my old age, but Gangles and you are on the wrong tram.

Southern Cross Hotel is in Ermita, Manila. I have drunk there but not used the rooms. It has an Internet site and a daily modern coach service between Manila - Angeles City - Angeles.

Having met the Australian owner, I can vouch for what a pleasant chap he is. There is even a drinks card: every sixth beer is free if I recall.

[QUOTE=Notanocker]Dcand4, please correct me if I am getting confused in my old age, but Gangles and you are on the wrong tram.

Southern Cross Hotel is in Ermita, Manila. I have drunk there but not used the rooms. It has an Internet site and a daily modern coach service between Manila - Angeles City - Angeles.
[/QUOTE]

The map shows it behind the Clarkton off Perimeter Road but its now called the Sydney Hotel.

STANDARD Php 1,400 about $35.00

• Individually-controlled air-conditioning units
• 21" color TV with international cable channels
• Safety Box
• Cold and hot water
• 24 hour room service

DELUXE Php 1,680

• Individually-controlled air-conditioning units
• 21" color TV with international cable channels
• Safety Box
• Cold and hot water
• 24 hour room service

PRESIDENTIAL Php 1,960

• Individually-controlled air-conditioning units
• 21" color TV with international cable channels
• Safety Box
• Cold and hot water
• 24 hour room service

Large open-air swimming pool with Gazebo huts and a fully equipped gym and fitness centre.

Savor delightful international and local cuisine and sing your favorite songs with our 24 hour videoke bar.

Airline Ticket Confirmation,Wide Parking Area, Airport Pick-Up Transport Service, Foreign Currency Exchange, Laundry Service, Massage Theraphy, Visa Extension and 24 hour internet service.

[url]http://www.sydneyhotelcorporation.com/index.html[/url]

Slim

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Thanks for the feed back guys.

I had my frist night with some AC pussy last night. Found a nice looking girl from La Pasha. Lucky me I could score here, because from the whole line up, she was the only one appealing to my tastes.

I'm getting to understand why everyone likes pussy here. First it's a cheap pussy 1500 PHP is only 22. 50 euros. Kind of a cheap overnight.

Second all Ph. Girls seems to go bareback. Yes everyone likes it BB here, the girls told me, 90%+ of the customers are going BB. But no problem she said "we are getting health check". Riiight

In BKK I've booked about 20 girls from various places, MP like Emmanuelle, Poseidon, GoGo's from NEP, bars from Soi 33, various bar girls. NONE offered BB or let me think BB was possible (well I never kept a girl in BKK more than one night so maybe they offer it afterwards).

Another question I have for you guys. WHERE TO GET A DESCENT MEAL IN AC.

I'm staying at the Pacific Breeze. Friendly staff, sure thing, descent and clean rooms, sure thing too.

But the food. OMG this is terrible.

I had a cheeseburger last night, and for the frist time in my life, I wish I had a dinner at Mc Donalds.

I'm not talking about a 3 stars Gourmet Michelin restaurant (well if you know any give me the adress hehe). But just something descent. I'm willing to shell out 1K + PHP for a descent meal

Another question I saw that the hotel near PB, Orchid Inn I think there are some posters for a poker room. Is that ok to go there, or is it a rip off? Asking because of PB help manual it says, never get to play card games with the locals!

Just trying to find something to do this afternoon as Fields avenue is kind of deserted during the afternoon.

Where to get descent pussy for an afternoon session? I was at the DollHouse yesterday at 3PM, there were only shitty girls.[/QUOTE]It can take a few visits to a/c to get the hang of the place.

Because of the shit food in the fields area bars and hotels, I now stay at the Clarkton Hotel as it serves the best food imho, I like fresh salads, grilled fish, lean meat, so as it is on perimeter road, its quite fun walking into all the bars on the way to fields.

I love playing pool so thats what I end up doing in the bars in the afternoon, apart from barfining. Don't limit yourself to just fields there are lots of good bars for afternoon fun on perimeter road.

A/c is the place for hard core mongers, perhaps Subic is better if you want to be by the sea, I am going there in May for a few days, as a side trip to the main a/c one.

red wings over angeles city

as i mentioned in an earlier report, i had found a cluster of four nudie bars during my first trip to angeles city during the mid-80s. these were my favorite hunting grounds because i like watching girls dancing naked while i drink cold beer. you also know exactly what you are getting, furry or bald, firm or saggy, shy or bold.

on my second trip to ac, i couldn’t wait to try out the nudie bars for the first time. the bars opened at 12 noon and i was thirsty in several ways. i took a jeepney most of the way and walked down a side street for a couple of blocks. there was a young filipino standing out front who opened the door for me. the bar was dark except for the stage, the air con mostly worked; the girls looked ok to pretty good, so i stumble to a table in front of the low stage. a waitress took my order for a san miguel. there were three girls on stage. one in a bikini, one topless and the third was bare-ass naked. i leaned back sucked on my beer and enjoyed the show. as the naked girl finished her third song, she was replaced by a bikini-clad dancer, topless girl drops her panties and the bikini girl took off her top. there must have been 12-15 girls working each shift. during the 8th or 9th song, a door bell rang and all the girls ran off stage screaming. mamasan came over and told me not to worry. it was just an alarm by the guy out front who saw something suspicious. nude dancing was not allowed and this is how they got around the law. i asked mama to join me for a drink while the dancers returned to the stage in bikinis. mama filled me in on what the score, beer cost (p10), ladies drinks (p35) and bar fines. bar fines were p250 or about $12.00 at that time. after a few minutes, mama gave the all clear and the nudity continued.

a new girl entered the line up that really got my attention. “angel” was the cutest little pinay i had seen. she was about 5’0”, 100 lbs; small firm “a” cups, and tight ass. she had the sweetest smile that would melt the most hardened monger’s heart. mama noticed my attention and asked if i liked her. i stammered a “yes”. she said she would send here over after her dances. i watch as she sort of danced, removed her top, and finally her bottom. she was nearly naturally bald down there. when her three songs were over, mama motioned for her to come over after dressing and refreshing. angel came out in the little black bikini she wore on stage. i stood and pulled out a chair for her and she just giggled shyly. mama asked if i would like to but angel a drink and i said of course. mama left us and the waitress brought over a ladies drink. i gave her p50 and told her to keep the change. big smile from the waitress.

angels started to ask the standard questions. name, where from, job, like ac, etc. i let her finish and started my queries. her name, how long in bar, her age, etc. she looked **** so i asked for her id badge. i held up the badge so i could read the birth date. i asked her when she was born and she correctly matched the id badge. conscience soothed. she had been in angeles for three weeks and the bar for a week. she was young, fresh, and unspoiled. after some small talk, she excused herself and returned shortly. i pulled her chair next to mine. while we watched the dancers, i ran my hand over her thigh and felt the smoothest skin ever. i got a little more adventurous and slid my fingers under the leg band of her bikini bottom. angel squirmed a little when i ran my fingers over her bare pussy lips and i thought that was enough for now. i did not want to scare her off. she excused herself to get ready for her next dance. mama came over and sat down at the table. she asked if wanted to bar fine angel. she told me she was new and inexperienced and asked if i would treat her nice. she was not a cherry girl but only been with a pinoy and one customer. i was a bit reluctant but just could not pass up such a sweet, young pinay. i promised mama i would be gentle and not abuse her. she motioned to angel on stage and got a smile and nod back. i gave mama p300 and told her keep the change. after angel completed her third song she came by the table naked holding her bikini over her goodies and said she would change and be back.

angel returned dressed in the standard jeans, t-shirt, and tennis shoes. she had a small bag of personal stuff slung over her shoulder. i bought angel another drink, this time a san miguel like i was drinking. she said she waited until she was “off duty” to start drinking alcohol. i told her we would go out later to eat and do some bar hopping. we talked a little while i tried to keep an eye on the dancers. there were several that looked really nice. one was more petite than the others and actually looked ****d. angel said she was indeed 18 and her best friend. she asked if i liked her and i lied and said she was o.k. i asked about a couple of the other girls and got positive reports on each one. it was about 4 pm and the beers i had started to affect me. i told angel we were going back to the hotel so i could freshen up and put on a clean shirt. we walked up to perimeter road and caught a jeepney.

when we got to the room, i cranked the air con up high and peeled off the sweaty shirt. i washed my pits and face and combed my hair. angel was quietly sitting on the end of the bed. i took her hand and had her stand. i put my arms around her and leaned down to kiss her. her lips were soft and pliable. i took it slow and inched my tongue between her lips. she responded by playing with my tongue with hers. when i broke the kiss, i told her she made me really horny and i wanted her now. i helped her strip by pulling her t-shirt over her head. next came the tennis shoes and jeans. i unclasped her bra and dropped it with the rest of her clothes. i ran my tongue and lips over her firm little tits and felt the nipples harden. we kissed some more and she seemed to be getting into it. i knelt down and slid her panties down to her thighs. i leaned forward and kissed her mons. i continued kissing as i slid her panties down and off. she tried to cover her pussy with her hands as my tongue slid down between the lips. i pushed her back on the bed and spread her legs. i kissed her inner thighs and worked my way towards her naturally bare lips. she was squirming and i looked up and asked if she did not like what i was doing. she leaned up on her elbows and said she did not know as no one had ever done that before. she said her ex-boy friend thought it was nasty. i told her i just loved to lick young filipina pussy and to just lie back and enjoy it. she looked very embarrassed that some one would really enjoy eating pussy. i smiled and said if she did not like it i would quit. she lay back and relaxed her legs. i really enjoy new girls but it sure takes a lot of patience. i gentle worked my tongue and lips along the inside of both thighs. angel started giggling and i looked up. she told me it tickled. not the reaction i was expecting. i slowly ran my tongue up between her nether lips and tasted a mixture of young pussy and sweat. quite intoxicating. i probed her little holes with my tongue with short jabs. i licked upward and found her little clip. her body twitched each time i tongued her clit. i looked up at her and asked o.k. she had her eyes closed and just nodded her head. i lapped at her pussy top to bottom and back up. i swirled her clit with my tongue. she started squirming again but this time in a positive manner. i sucked on her clit pulling it between my lips. i caught her clit between my lips and stroked her little button with my tongue. she grabbed my head with both hands and pushed my face harder into her pussy. i felt her legs clamp against the sides of my head as she finally came. she was breathing hard and making soft moaning sounds. she was dripping pussy juice and it was running down the crack of her tight ass. once she relaxed, i licked up as much of her juice as i could and tongue fucked her little hole. i got up and washed my face. it seems filipinas do not like the taste of their own pussies as much as we do.

when i returned to the bedroom, angel was just lying there limp with her legs hanging off the end of the bed where i left her. i stripped off the rest of my clothes and helped her move to the center of the bed. she looked so peaceful just lying there naked enjoying her orgasm. i leaned over and kissed her. she wrapped her arms around my neck and held me tight. after the kiss, i asked if she like me licking her pussy and she said yes, it made her feel good. i asked if she was willing to return the favor and she looked at me puzzled. i said i wanted to put my cock in her mouth. she said no. i asked why not, and she said she had never done it before and was scared. i did not want to press the issue. she did reach down and massage my cock. her hand was so soft and smooth i was soon erect. i said i was ready to fuck her and she lay back and spread her legs. i put a towel under her ass. she looked embarrassed and i explained she got really wet. i told her not to worry it was a good thing. i tease her clit with the head of my cock. i slid my erect phallus down between her lips and found her hole. i gently slide into her watching for any pain on her face. she was really wet but so tight i had to slowly work it in. she was not very deep and i bottomed out with cock to spare. i started a slow in and out rhythm. after a while i rolled us over into a cowgirl position. this was also new to her and i explained she just had to raise her little ass up and down and my cock would go in and out. she found a comfortable position and got the hang of it. i reached up and fondle her little titties and played with her nipples. i told her how good her pussy felt wrapped around my cock. she looked embarrassed again. i pulled her face down to mine and kissed her deeply. her tight ass started pumping up and down faster. she sat erect and was breathing hard. she put her hands on my chest for leverage and really started humping. her face had this screwed up look with her eyes closed tightly. the low moaning started again and i grabbed her hips to help her hump. i was getting close also. i used her tight, wet pussy to jack myself off. she came and started to slow down but i kept thrusting up into her. i told her not to stop that i was cumming. it must have been quite a load as i could feel it running out of her pussy and down my balls. she collapsed on top of me breathing hard. i just laid there catching my breath and stroking her back and massaging those tight ass cheeks. my cock slowly deflated and i felt more liquid run down my balls as it popped out. after relaxing for while i told her it was time to clean up. she crawled off me and headed to the bathroom. she felt my cum running down her thigh and touched it. she said (i swear to god) “eew, white blood.”

after we cleaned up, we went out to eat. it was sundown and the heat was finally dissipating. she was amazed i would let her order whatever she wanted. chicken for her and steak for me. beer for both. we hit some of the bars on perimeter road working our way towards fields avenue. one snotty cashier asked if angel was my daughter. i introduced her to frozen mixed drinks. she liked pina coladas most of all so i made sure she had a fresh one in each bar. i was making mental notes in each bar for later reference. we bumped into a good looking friend of angels working in one of the bars, so i bought her a ladies drink and she joined us. the bar was a bikini bar with a big projection screen behind the dancers. we were sitting in a booth, angel on one side and her friend on the other. angel told her friend how much fun she was having with me. while they talked, i watched the dancers. i had one hand in angel’s lap, and reached over and felt her friend’s silky thigh. the friend did not miss a beat in the conversation and just smiled at me. angel was starting feel the drinks and her speech was slurring. i asked if she wanted to return to the room. she said she was having too much fun. i ordered another round of drinks and enjoyed the dancers. after finishing the drinks, i insisted we head back to hotel. i did not need a drunk and sick pinay on my hands. angel was giggling a lot and i had pushed her into the jeepney.

got her back to the room and stripped her down. i started the shower and pushed her in. i stripped down and joined her. she was all over me. said she loved me. i soaped her up and finger fucked her tight little pussy. i played with butt hole and inserted a finger up to the first knuckle. she did not protest. angel just stood there with her arms tightly around my neck. i washed as best i could and rinsed us off. i dragged her out of the shower and dried her off. i used the towel to tease her nipples which were soon standing erect. i dried off and we headed for the bed. i dumped her in the middle on her back. she looked up at me with glazed eyes and said she loved me again. i really didn’t want to take advantage of her but i did. i asked her if she loved me enough to suck my cock. she just nodded yes. i got on the bed next to her and she asked me how to do it. i explained the basics and laid back. she did her best and was probably not that bad for a first time. i did not cim because that would have freaked her out. once i was hard, i asked her what she wanted to do next. she shyly said lick my pussy. i had her lay back and draped her legs over my shoulders and slowly licked her sweet little pussy until she came. she was beginning to enjoy sex. when i went to wash my face, i looked in the mirror. it looked like i had been cut from ear to ear. angel had stared her period and neither of us had not noticed it. i took a towel with me. i looked down at her spread out on the bed and sure enough her crotch was red and there was a dark spot on the bed. i called out her name and asked her about the period. she felt between her legs and looked at her fingers. she looked mortified that it had happened in front of somebody. she started crying. great. all i needed was drunken crying girl on her period. she jumped up and ran crying into the bathroom closing the door behind her. i gave her a few minutes and went in to console her. she was sitting on the toilet pouring water down her crotch washing. she apologized profusely through her tears. i told her not to worry about it, that she was so cute and pretty that i still wanted to have sex with her. she said even though i have ministration. i said yes. we went back into the bedroom and i stretched a towel across the bed. i lay down and had her blow me back to erection. i got her on her hands and knees and fucked her doggy. as i slowly stroked in and out, i played with her butt hole. i put some spit on my finger and slowly massaged her brown eye. she did not protest until i tried to push a finger in. i did not force the issue. i grabbed her hips and started pumping faster and harder. she was pushing back as i pushed forward. she started cumming and collapsed on the bed. i fell on top of her and continued thrusting until i came. the towel caught the worst of the mess but i had to shower to clean up. when angel came out of the bathroom, she was dressed in t-shirt and panties with a wad of toilet paper in her hand. i watched as she folded the tp neatly and used it as a sanitary pad. we curled up on the bed and slept.

next morning not much was said. she could not look me in the eye without flushing with embarrassment. i sat on a chair and had her sit in my lap. i told her i was not upset with her period or the mess it made. i said i liked her a lot and would bar fine again when i returned to ac. we kissed a little and felt those fine little tits. we had breakfast and i gave her p50 for jeepney fare. i saw her later at the nudie bar and she was not dancing. i bought her a ladies drink to help with her income. mamasan came over and i invited her to join us. we all had a drink and mama apologized for the little problem. i took angel’s hand and explained to the mama that it was no problem. i told both that angel was my favorite but not exclusive and i would see her again on my trip. there were two other nudie bars in the area i wanted check out.
angel walked me to the door and gave me a big kiss before i left which got lots of hoots from the dancers and waitress.

i went to the nudie bars quite often and bar fined many of the dancers. angel was bar fined at least once per trip until she left the bar. i saw her again about a year and a half later working in another nudie bar but she was just not as cute as before. maybe the bar life had taken its toll.

slim

p.s.

since some of you may think this is a penthouse story, i have pictures.

Hello Notanocker,

I had thought that Fast Eddie was pretty clear as to the location of the Southern Cross. It is in Ermita, very close to the Swagman hotel, and very close to the LA Cafe.

The hoteel that he and I are referring to is not in AC.

Gangles

Great post slim, very nostalgic (although I only got to Pi in early 90s). Also VERY common about the no oral sex experience. My only quibble is the 50 Piso tip; even back then when a dollar only bought 20 Pisos 50 is not a very good tip for a sweetheart like Angel. That aside, I nominate your report for reports of distinction.

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Thanks for the feed back guys.

I had my frist night with some AC pussy last night. Found a nice looking girl from La Pasha. Lucky me I could score here, because from the whole line up, she was the only one appealing to my tastes.

I'm getting to understand why everyone likes pussy here. First it's a cheap pussy 1500 PHP is only 22. 50 euros. Kind of a cheap overnight.

Second all Ph. Girls seems to go bareback. Yes everyone likes it BB here, the girls told me, 90%+ of the customers are going BB. But no problem she said "we are getting health check". Riiight

In BKK I've booked about 20 girls from various places, MP like Emmanuelle, Poseidon, GoGo's from NEP, bars from Soi 33, various bar girls. NONE offered BB or let me think BB was possible (well I never kept a girl in BKK more than one night so maybe they offer it afterwards).

Another question I have for you guys. WHERE TO GET A DESCENT MEAL IN AC.

I'm staying at the Pacific Breeze. Friendly staff, sure thing, descent and clean rooms, sure thing too.

But the food. OMG this is terrible.

I had a cheeseburger last night, and for the frist time in my life, I wish I had a dinner at Mc Donalds.

I'm not talking about a 3 stars Gourmet Michelin restaurant (well if you know any give me the adress hehe). But just something descent. I'm willing to shell out 1K + PHP for a descent meal

Another question I saw that the hotel near PB, Orchid Inn I think there are some posters for a poker room. Is that ok to go there, or is it a rip off? Asking because of PB help manual it says, never get to play card games with the locals!

Just trying to find something to do this afternoon as Fields avenue is kind of deserted during the afternoon.

Where to get descent pussy for an afternoon session? I was at the DollHouse yesterday at 3PM, there were only shitty girls.[/QUOTE]


I recomand Swiss chalet resto, just walkin distance from Pacific breeze or Bohemian Restaurant its along mc arthur hi way, you pass blue nile then turn left, you see a sign called video city (video rental) you pass this and walk a bit, on the left you see Bohemia resto..

C dining is also ok, its upper fields, near Brettos after Phoenx hotel (mexican food)
Have you tried shanos bar?? its beside wild orchid where IM sitting right now hehehehe..international menue, draft beer..

hope that helps..


Enjoy

Blink

Hey Blink,

I think the Bohemia has closed for renovations and/or relocation.

I was there a couple of weeks ago and feasted on their last week specials. (The half duck was just as good as in Prague).

I think that it was going to be at least a month before they reopened at that stage - so maybe a few weeks yet.

The other problem is that their blurb said they were re-opening as a burger bar/bistro - so be aware.

It was a very good restaurant though.

Hi. Just to check. Is there any money changer in angeles? Anyone knows the rate to change USD 1? Wanna see if rate is better in my country.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
I'm not talking about a 3 stars Gourmet Michelin restaurant (well if you know any give me the adress hehe). But just something descent. I'm willing to shell out 1K + PHP for a descent meal
[/QUOTE]
I usually go Cottage Kitchen up Perimeter Road. Great food IMHO.
Trike drivers know it or go there by Jeepney.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
I had a cheeseburger last night, and for the frist time in my life, I wish I had a dinner at Mc Donalds.[/QUOTE]
McDonalds is in SM Mall.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]

Another question I have for you guys. WHERE TO GET A DESCENT MEAL IN AC.

I'm staying at the Pacific Breeze. Friendly staff, sure thing, descent and clean rooms, sure thing too.

But the food. OMG this is terrible.

I had a cheeseburger last night, and for the frist time in my life, I wish I had a dinner at Mc Donalds.

I'm not talking about a 3 stars Gourmet Michelin restaurant (well if you know any give me the adress hehe). But just something descent. I'm willing to shell out 1K + PHP for a descent meal

[/QUOTE]

C' Italian has very good food, IMHO. It is located well down Fields.

[url]http://www.citaliandining.com/content/index.php[/url]

Thanks for the help and the good tips for restaurants.

You got to admit that getting a descent food in AC is quite a challenge : )

If a michelin inspector would come to AC, he would hang himself! : )

I'm now in Cebu and when I arrived at the Marriot I had a delicious sole fish.
Let's hope Cebu girls are nice too.

Acutally why are you guys mongering in AC rather than a more friendly place like CeBu? Girls are better in AC?

Yes Cottage Kitchen is good. Also on Perimeter is a Mexican place, which is adequate. I used to live in S. California and became used to good Mexican fare, so I may be overly picky. Closer to the action ...I think it's called Bourban something.... is a good place and had nice music the night I was there.

If you don't mind getting your fingers dirty, eat with the locals. BBQ chicken!

Harry the Horse often gives restaurant reviews in his monthly column and of course you can eat at his place called La Casa also on Perimeter. I seem to remember some talk about a Philly cheese steak in his March note...(I also used to live in South Philly!). I love Philly chessy steaks!

X

[QUOTE=Ekspat]I usually go Cottage Kitchen up Perimeter Road. Great food IMHO.
Trike drivers know it or go there by Jeepney.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

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In other words, I don't want to hear anymore about the subject except in the [url="http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1084"]Safe Sex Thread[/url].

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4. It provides a "cover" for Serial Antagonists to provoke other members.

To address the usual arguments:

1. If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

2. If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

3. If [u]YOU[/u] want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then [u]YOU[/u] should use a condom for sex all the time and thus [u]YOU[/u] will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.

Thanks,

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[QUOTE=X Man]Closer to the action ...I think it's called Bourban something.... is a good place and had nice music the night I was there.
X[/QUOTE]
Hi X, 'Bourbon Street' is what you are thinking of & yes its ok.
Located right on Fields just down from the big bars.
The waitress's are usually on the menu also.. bonus!
Cheers
AV

Just arrived home from a trip to A/C. Although I usually go once every six months I missed a cycle to visit Thailand.

Normally I prefer the smaller more cozier bars where you can have more interaction. However, I did make the rounds to the bigger bars.

The first thing that struck me was how many unappealing (chubby, stretch marks, no tits, mushy tits, etc.) girls are showing up in the bars, including the so-called “show clubs” (what a laugh). My own (unscientific) poll revealed that all had one or more babies.

Had a problem at Insomnia, which is not unusual from other mongerer I talked with. The mammason was her usual rude self, tying to force drinks and actually telling the girls not to talk with you unless you buy drinks for many of them. If you want to be hassled, this is the place to go.

The second I noticed was the slow demise of Santo’s Street. It should be self-evident to any regular visitor to A/C this area is going through its death rattle. Every time I come to A/C finding a respectable bj bar with decent women is more and more difficult.

For you Black Pearl enthusiasts I tried to look up Chadra (the last name in bj’s), but could not find her. Tried her sister (Mia Lynn), who was awful. She gave a bj like she was drinking a milk shake, then left me (literally) high and dry at that tender moment. Eventually got a decent bj from a girl who worked at Heaven. Can’t remember her name, but she was a cherry-girl. Not bad and a great tight body.

Did have a very good time in the Bird Cage (next to Confetti’s). On Thursday and Saturday they go topless, while painting their tits and the rest of their body(s) as some type of animal. Met a waitress there who I eventually barfined, she was a demon in bed. Look for the one with the stud in her tongue.

Stopped at the “Gentlemen’s Club” for a beer. I was on my way back from Perimeter Road and stopped just to get out of the heat. Had been there a year or two ago and it was a real dump. What a surprise, the new owners have redone the entire place making it easier to maneuver. Also, the owner was very friendly, literally buying round after round for hours. I would recommend you stop and have a beer. Friendly and agreeable place.

Yes, thanks for filling in the blanks.

I seem to remember the waitress being quite fine and very friendly, especially when my date was in the rest room.

X

[QUOTE=Amavida]Hi X, 'Bourbon Street' is what you are thinking of & yes its ok.
Located right on Fields just down from the big bars.
The waitress's are usually on the menu also.. bonus!
Cheers
AV[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Just arrived home from a trip to A/C. Although I usually go once every six months I missed a cycle to visit Thailand.

Normally I prefer the smaller more cozier bars where you can have more interaction. However, I did make the rounds to the bigger bars.

The first thing that struck me was how many unappealing (chubby, stretch marks, no tits, mushy tits, etc.) girls are showing up in the bars, including the so-called “show clubs” (what a laugh). My own (unscientific) poll revealed that all had one or more babies.

Had a problem at Insomnia, which is not unusual from other mongerer I talked with. The mammason was her usual rude self, tying to force drinks and actually telling the girls not to talk with you unless you buy drinks for many of them. If you want to be hassled, this is the place to go.

The second I noticed was the slow demise of Santo’s Street. It should be self-evident to any regular visitor to A/C this area is going through its death rattle. Every time I come to A/C finding a respectable bj bar with decent women is more and more difficult.

For you Black Pearl enthusiasts I tried to look up Chadra (the last name in bj’s), but could not find her. Tried her sister (Mia Lynn), who was awful. She gave a bj like she was drinking a milk shake, then left me (literally) high and dry at that tender moment. Eventually got a decent bj from a girl who worked at Heaven. Can’t remember her name, but she was a cherry-girl. Not bad and a great tight body.

Did have a very good time in the Bird Cage (next to Confetti’s). On Thursday and Saturday they go topless, while painting their tits and the rest of their body(s) as some type of animal. Met a waitress there who I eventually barfined, she was a demon in bed. Look for the one with the stud in her tongue.

Stopped at the “Gentlemen’s Club” for a beer. I was on my way back from Perimeter Road and stopped just to get out of the heat. Had been there a year or two ago and it was a real dump. What a surprise, the new owners have redone the entire place making it easier to maneuver. Also, the owner was very friendly, literally buying round after round for hours. I would recommend you stop and have a beer. Friendly and agreeable place.[/QUOTE]Just a couple of things. Although the reports of quality declining, we also hear reports of ''more beautiful women than I know what to do with'' which comes down to what we hear alot: Your average girl is my 10 and vica versa. Just for perspective

I also want to comment on the baby fat/stretch marks comment. Now, there is no scientific proof, but I would bet most babies are born to momgers. The Philippines has got to be the #1 mongering spot for bareback sex. Yeah yeah yeah we always use condoms. I doubt it. Ask ANY WG and she will tell you 9/10 guys don't. Manila is a little better, but not much.

So I would beg you guys PLEASE use condems. I not only have mongered in the PI but married a pinay (not a wg) and I adore them. The last thing these girls need is a baby from a monger. So when you complain about all the girls with baby bodies, just remember most likely it is a selfish mongers fault.

I'm not trying to flame anyone, nor turn this into a safe sex thread. This isn't the forum. I'm just making a passing comment.

best BJ bar on Santos nowadays is WOW, the TINY dive right on the corner across from SHANO's Irish pub (the road where you would turn RIGHT to Pacific Breeze if coming from Wild Orchid). No onsite ST rooms though, so you gotta have your own room. NOT open late.

Regarding food, the choices are MUCH better than a few years ago, but true epicures should NOT go to Angeles to satiate their hunger. Makati/Manila has way better food options at the upper end.

But if yiou want to go cheap on girls but expensive on foiod, you need not starve. C's is among the most haute cuisine but it is WAY overpriced for Angeles. The prices would be high even in Milan or New York, but for Angeles they are absurd (a small pizza is $14).

Azzure Restaurant, upstairs from Lacelot's, offers very good Italian food at reasonable prices. I also like the Maranao Grill at Oasis Hotel quite a lot. l SM Mall has several very acceptable eateries and the food at Wild Orchid is not bad at all.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Just arrived home from a trip to A/C. Although I usually go once every six months I missed a cycle to visit Thailand.

Normally I prefer the smaller more cozier bars where you can have more interaction. However, I did make the rounds to the bigger bars.

The first thing that struck me was how many unappealing (chubby, stretch marks, no tits, mushy tits, etc.) girls are showing up in the bars, including the so-called “show clubs” (what a laugh). My own (unscientific) poll revealed that all had one or more babies.

Had a problem at Insomnia, ....... If you want to be hassled, this is the place to go.

The second I noticed was the slow demise of Santo’s Street. .....

For you Black Pearl enthusiasts .........

Did have a very good time in the Bird Cage ........

Stopped at the “Gentlemen’s Club” for a beer. ........ Friendly and agreeable place.[/QUOTE]

Thanks man, excellent up to date info on a number of bars.

Ever wondered why decent Reports from Senior Members seem to fail to make the (Automatic) ROD recommendations??

Cheers, F/Fifty

I am moving to subic in a couple of weeks. I used the new expressway for the first time last week (coming from Subic to AC), but.

I drove right through clark, entered NLEX, went two exits to Angeles, and then took another 10 minute drive to Fields. Did I do something wrong? Someone told me that is the only way, but it makes no sense. Why would it be called the Clark-subic expressway if there was no clark exit.

[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]Why would it be called the Clark-subic expressway if there was no clark exit.[/QUOTE]
They ran out of money and in true Filipino fashion will construct the Clark exit in the near future. :o

[QUOTE=LoveAsian*****s]I am moving to subic in a couple of weeks. I used the new expressway for the first time last week (coming from Subic to AC), but.

I drove right through clark, entered NLEX, went two exits to Angeles, and then took another 10 minute drive to Fields. Did I do something wrong? Someone told me that is the only way, but it makes no sense. Why would it be called the Clark-subic expressway if there was no clark exit.[/QUOTE]The Manila Times Internet Edition, Feb. 8, 2008

Save GMA from ‘shame’

"ANGELES CITY: Pinoy Gumising Ka Movement (PGKM) Chairman Ruperto Cruz yesterday called on all allies of President Gloria Arroyo to “save her from shame and disgrace before it is too late” as the Subic-Clark-Tarlac Expressway (SCTEx) is set to open on April without the access to the DMIA.

“The President will face criticisms when the SCTEx opens in time for her birthday on April because the Clark Freeport has no direct access to the expressway,” Cruz told The Manila Times.

He blamed Clark Development Corp. (CDC) President Levy Laus’ alleged opposition to the Clark North Interchange in Dolores.

Clark has only two interchanges: the Clark North Interchange in Dolores, which was supposedly linked to an access road to Expo Pilipino, and the Clark Logistics Interchange connected to the North Luzon Expressway Spur Road in Mabiga, Mabalacat.

The Clark Logistics Interchange is only a connection between the two expressways, SCTEx and NLEx but was not completed.

“It is just a loop connecting SCTEx and NLEx, and it doesn’t take you inside Clark because there are no arterial roads entering Clark. It will only serve commuters coming from Manila going to Subic and Tarlac, and back,” explained Cruz."

Hello LAW,

At the present time, there are no easy exit or entry points for Clark. You must drive through Clark, exit the MABALACAT gate, go to Mc Arthur Highway and turn left as if you are heading to Tarlac on the old road. Then, right after the Kamikaze Memorial (before Bambam Bridge) there is an entrance exit named Clark North. There is another entry/exit named Clark Logistics Interchange. Supposedly, you go out the Dau Road to the NLEx a few kilometers and there is an access point on the new expressway.

From the map SCTEx 2, you can see there will be three interchanges into Clark due for completion sometime in the near future. The reason for the incompletion was a political one as specified in the Manila Times Internet Edition, Feb. 8, 2008. Two overpasses have been completed which connect Tarlac to Subic and NLEx via a " spur......"

Travel safe and ingat palagi. (take care, always.)

Wazza :-)

[QUOTE=Mattrick]They ran out of money and in true Filipino fashion will construct the Clark exit in the near future. :o[/QUOTE]

"Filipino fashion??" I thought it was typical "government anywhere" fashion.

[QUOTE=Seva Lurker]"Filipino fashion??" I thought it was typical "government anywhere" fashion.[/QUOTE]As I am sure the previous three esteemed senoir members of this forum might say, " welcome to the Philippines".

thanks for the report. its nice to see the vintage pics from ac the way it used to be! you can still find new innocent 18 year olds in ac. my last trip a month ago i met a newbie also named angel and my experience was very similar to yours. had to teach her everything but there is a charm to that.


[quote=nvslim]red wings over angeles city

as i mentioned in an earlier report, i had found a cluster of four nudie bars during my first trip to angeles city during the mid-80s. these were my favorite hunting grounds because i like watching girls dancing naked while i drink cold beer. you also know exactly what you are getting, furry or bald, firm or saggy, shy or bold.

on my second trip to ac, i couldn’t wait to try out the nudie bars for the first time. the bars opened at 12 noon and i was thirsty in several ways. i took a jeepney most of the way and walked down a side street for a couple of blocks. there was a young filipino standing out front who opened the door for me. the bar was dark except for the stage, the air con mostly worked; the girls looked ok to pretty good, so i stumble to a table in front of the low stage. a waitress took my order for a san miguel. there were three girls on stage. one in a bikini, one topless and the third was bare-ass naked. i leaned back sucked on my beer and enjoyed the show. as the naked girl finished her third song, she was replaced by a bikini-clad dancer, topless girl drops her panties and the bikini girl took off her top. there must have been 12-15 girls working each shift. during the 8th or 9th song, a door bell rang and all the girls ran off stage screaming. mamasan came over and told me not to worry. it was just an alarm by the guy out front who saw something suspicious. nude dancing was not allowed and this is how they got around the law. i asked mama to join me for a drink while the dancers returned to the stage in bikinis. mama filled me in on what the score, beer cost (p10), ladies drinks (p35) and bar fines. bar fines were p250 or about $12.00 at that time. after a few minutes, mama gave the all clear and the nudity continued.

a new girl entered the line up that really got my attention. “angel” was the cutest little pinay i had seen. she was about 5’0”, 100 lbs; small firm “a” cups, and tight ass. she had the sweetest smile that would melt the most hardened monger’s heart. mama noticed my attention and asked if i liked her. i stammered a “yes”. she said she would send here over after her dances. i watch as she sort of danced, removed her top, and finally her bottom. she was nearly naturally bald down there. when her three songs were over, mama motioned for her to come over after dressing and refreshing. angel came out in the little black bikini she wore on stage. i stood and pulled out a chair for her and she just giggled shyly. mama asked if i would like to but angel a drink and i said of course. mama left us and the waitress brought over a ladies drink. i gave her p50 and told her to keep the change. big smile from the waitress.

angels started to ask the standard questions. name, where from, job, like ac, etc. i let her finish and started my queries. her name, how long in bar, her age, etc. she looked **** so i asked for her id badge. i held up the badge so i could read the birth date. i asked her when she was born and she correctly matched the id badge. conscience soothed. she had been in angeles for three weeks and the bar for a week. she was young, fresh, and unspoiled. after some small talk, she excused herself and returned shortly. i pulled her chair next to mine. while we watched the dancers, i ran my hand over her thigh and felt the smoothest skin ever. i got a little more adventurous and slid my fingers under the leg band of her bikini bottom. angel squirmed a little when i ran my fingers over her bare pussy lips and i thought that was enough for now. i did not want to scare her off. she excused herself to get ready for her next dance. mama came over and sat down at the table. she asked if wanted to bar fine angel. she told me she was new and inexperienced and asked if i would treat her nice. she was not a cherry girl but only been with a pinoy and one customer. i was a bit reluctant but just could not pass up such a sweet, young pinay. i promised mama i would be gentle and not abuse her. she motioned to angel on stage and got a smile and nod back. i gave mama p300 and told her keep the change. after angel completed her third song she came by the table naked holding her bikini over her goodies and said she would change and be back.

angel returned dressed in the standard jeans, t-shirt, and tennis shoes. she had a small bag of personal stuff slung over her shoulder. i bought angel another drink, this time a san miguel like i was drinking. she said she waited until she was “off duty” to start drinking alcohol. i told her we would go out later to eat and do some bar hopping. we talked a little while i tried to keep an eye on the dancers. there were several that looked really nice. one was more petite than the others and actually looked ****d. angel said she was indeed 18 and her best friend. she asked if i liked her and i lied and said she was o.k. i asked about a couple of the other girls and got positive reports on each one. it was about 4 pm and the beers i had started to affect me. i told angel we were going back to the hotel so i could freshen up and put on a clean shirt. we walked up to perimeter road and caught a jeepney.

when we got to the room, i cranked the air con up high and peeled off the sweaty shirt. i washed my pits and face and combed my hair. angel was quietly sitting on the end of the bed. i took her hand and had her stand. i put my arms around her and leaned down to kiss her. her lips were soft and pliable. i took it slow and inched my tongue between her lips. she responded by playing with my tongue with hers. when i broke the kiss, i told her she made me really horny and i wanted her now. i helped her strip by pulling her t-shirt over her head. next came the tennis shoes and jeans. i unclasped her bra and dropped it with the rest of her clothes. i ran my tongue and lips over her firm little tits and felt the nipples harden. we kissed some more and she seemed to be getting into it. i knelt down and slid her panties down to her thighs. i leaned forward and kissed her mons. i continued kissing as i slid her panties down and off. she tried to cover her pussy with her hands as my tongue slid down between the lips. i pushed her back on the bed and spread her legs. i kissed her inner thighs and worked my way towards her naturally bare lips. she was squirming and i looked up and asked if she did not like what i was doing. she leaned up on her elbows and said she did not know as no one had ever done that before. she said her ex-boy friend thought it was nasty. i told her i just loved to lick young filipina pussy and to just lie back and enjoy it. she looked very embarrassed that some one would really enjoy eating pussy. i smiled and said if she did not like it i would quit. she lay back and relaxed her legs. i really enjoy new girls but it sure takes a lot of patience. i gentle worked my tongue and lips along the inside of both thighs. angel started giggling and i looked up. she told me it tickled. not the reaction i was expecting. i slowly ran my tongue up between her nether lips and tasted a mixture of young pussy and sweat. quite intoxicating. i probed her little holes with my tongue with short jabs. i licked upward and found her little clip. her body twitched each time i tongued her clit. i looked up at her and asked o.k. she had her eyes closed and just nodded her head. i lapped at her pussy top to bottom and back up. i swirled her clit with my tongue. she started squirming again but this time in a positive manner. i sucked on her clit pulling it between my lips. i caught her clit between my lips and stroked her little button with my tongue. she grabbed my head with both hands and pushed my face harder into her pussy. i felt her legs clamp against the sides of my head as she finally came. she was breathing hard and making soft moaning sounds. she was dripping pussy juice and it was running down the crack of her tight ass. once she relaxed, i licked up as much of her juice as i could and tongue fucked her little hole. i got up and washed my face. it seems filipinas do not like the taste of their own pussies as much as we do.

when i returned to the bedroom, angel was just lying there limp with her legs hanging off the end of the bed where i left her. i stripped off the rest of my clothes and helped her move to the center of the bed. she looked so peaceful just lying there naked enjoying her orgasm. i leaned over and kissed her. she wrapped her arms around my neck and held me tight. after the kiss, i asked if she like me licking her pussy and she said yes, it made her feel good. i asked if she was willing to return the favor and she looked at me puzzled. i said i wanted to put my cock in her mouth. she said no. i asked why not, and she said she had never done it before and was scared. i did not want to press the issue. she did reach down and massage my cock. her hand was so soft and smooth i was soon erect. i said i was ready to fuck her and she lay back and spread her legs. i put a towel under her ass. she looked embarrassed and i explained she got really wet. i told her not to worry it was a good thing. i tease her clit with the head of my cock. i slid my erect phallus down between her lips and found her hole. i gently slide into her watching for any pain on her face. she was really wet but so tight i had to slowly work it in. she was not very deep and i bottomed out with cock to spare. i started a slow in and out rhythm. after a while i rolled us over into a cowgirl position. this was also new to her and i explained she just had to raise her little ass up and down and my cock would go in and out. she found a comfortable position and got the hang of it. i reached up and fondle her little titties and played with her nipples. i told her how good her pussy felt wrapped around my cock. she looked embarrassed again. i pulled her face down to mine and kissed her deeply. her tight ass started pumping up and down faster. she sat erect and was breathing hard. she put her hands on my chest for leverage and really started humping. her face had this screwed up look with her eyes closed tightly. the low moaning started again and i grabbed her hips to help her hump. i was getting close also. i used her tight, wet pussy to jack myself off. she came and started to slow down but i kept thrusting up into her. i told her not to stop that i was cumming. it must have been quite a load as i could feel it running out of her pussy and down my balls. she collapsed on top of me breathing hard. i just laid there catching my breath and stroking her back and massaging those tight ass cheeks. my cock slowly deflated and i felt more liquid run down my balls as it popped out. after relaxing for while i told her it was time to clean up. she crawled off me and headed to the bathroom. she felt my cum running down her thigh and touched it. she said (i swear to god) “eew, white blood.”

after we cleaned up, we went out to eat. it was sundown and the heat was finally dissipating. she was amazed i would let her order whatever she wanted. chicken for her and steak for me. beer for both. we hit some of the bars on perimeter road working our way towards fields avenue. one snotty cashier asked if angel was my daughter. i introduced her to frozen mixed drinks. she liked pina coladas most of all so i made sure she had a fresh one in each bar. i was making mental notes in each bar for later reference. we bumped into a good looking friend of angels working in one of the bars, so i bought her a ladies drink and she joined us. the bar was a bikini bar with a big projection screen behind the dancers. we were sitting in a booth, angel on one side and her friend on the other. angel told her friend how much fun she was having with me. while they talked, i watched the dancers. i had one hand in angel’s lap, and reached over and felt her friend’s silky thigh. the friend did not miss a beat in the conversation and just smiled at me. angel was starting feel the drinks and her speech was slurring. i asked if she wanted to return to the room. she said she was having too much fun. i ordered another round of drinks and enjoyed the dancers. after finishing the drinks, i insisted we head back to hotel. i did not need a drunk and sick pinay on my hands. angel was giggling a lot and i had pushed her into the jeepney.

got her back to the room and stripped her down. i started the shower and pushed her in. i stripped down and joined her. she was all over me. said she loved me. i soaped her up and finger fucked her tight little pussy. i played with butt hole and inserted a finger up to the first knuckle. she did not protest. angel just stood there with her arms tightly around my neck. i washed as best i could and rinsed us off. i dragged her out of the shower and dried her off. i used the towel to tease her nipples which were soon standing erect. i dried off and we headed for the bed. i dumped her in the middle on her back. she looked up at me with glazed eyes and said she loved me again. i really didn’t want to take advantage of her but i did. i asked her if she loved me enough to suck my cock. she just nodded yes. i got on the bed next to her and she asked me how to do it. i explained the basics and laid back. she did her best and was probably not that bad for a first time. i did not cim because that would have freaked her out. once i was hard, i asked her what she wanted to do next. she shyly said lick my pussy. i had her lay back and draped her legs over my shoulders and slowly licked her sweet little pussy until she came. she was beginning to enjoy sex. when i went to wash my face, i looked in the mirror. it looked like i had been cut from ear to ear. angel had stared her period and neither of us had not noticed it. i took a towel with me. i looked down at her spread out on the bed and sure enough her crotch was red and there was a dark spot on the bed. i called out her name and asked her about the period. she felt between her legs and looked at her fingers. she looked mortified that it had happened in front of somebody. she started crying. great. all i needed was drunken crying girl on her period. she jumped up and ran crying into the bathroom closing the door behind her. i gave her a few minutes and went in to console her. she was sitting on the toilet pouring water down her crotch washing. she apologized profusely through her tears. i told her not to worry about it, that she was so cute and pretty that i still wanted to have sex with her. she said even though i have ministration. i said yes. we went back into the bedroom and i stretched a towel across the bed. i lay down and had her blow me back to erection. i got her on her hands and knees and fucked her doggy. as i slowly stroked in and out, i played with her butt hole. i put some spit on my finger and slowly massaged her brown eye. she did not protest until i tried to push a finger in. i did not force the issue. i grabbed her hips and started pumping faster and harder. she was pushing back as i pushed forward. she started cumming and collapsed on the bed. i fell on top of her and continued thrusting until i came. the towel caught the worst of the mess but i had to shower to clean up. when angel came out of the bathroom, she was dressed in t-shirt and panties with a wad of toilet paper in her hand. i watched as she folded the tp neatly and used it as a sanitary pad. we curled up on the bed and slept.

next morning not much was said. she could not look me in the eye without flushing with embarrassment. i sat on a chair and had her sit in my lap. i told her i was not upset with her period or the mess it made. i said i liked her a lot and would bar fine again when i returned to ac. we kissed a little and felt those fine little tits. we had breakfast and i gave her p50 for jeepney fare. i saw her later at the nudie bar and she was not dancing. i bought her a ladies drink to help with her income. mamasan came over and i invited her to join us. we all had a drink and mama apologized for the little problem. i took angel’s hand and explained to the mama that it was no problem. i told both that angel was my favorite but not exclusive and i would see her again on my trip. there were two other nudie bars in the area i wanted check out.
angel walked me to the door and gave me a big kiss before i left which got lots of hoots from the dancers and waitress.

i went to the nudie bars quite often and bar fined many of the dancers. angel was bar fined at least once per trip until she left the bar. i saw her again about a year and a half later working in another nudie bar but she was just not as cute as before. maybe the bar life had taken its toll.

slim

p.s.

since some of you may think this is a penthouse story, i have pictures.[/quote]

WTF? WOW bar the best BJ bar on Santos? I would put it as the worst bar in SEA! I won't get into details since it's against forum rules to mention, but unless it's your cup of tea then you better do a crotch test before sampling from WOW bar.

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]best BJ bar on Santos nowadays is WOW, the TINY dive right on the corner across from SHANO's Irish pub (the road where you would turn RIGHT to Pacific Breeze if coming from Wild Orchid). No onsite ST rooms though, so you gotta have your own room. NOT open late.

Regarding food, the choices are MUCH better than a few years ago, but true epicures should NOT go to Angeles to satiate their hunger. Makati/Manila has way better food options at the upper end.

But if yiou want to go cheap on girls but expensive on foiod, you need not starve. C's is among the most haute cuisine but it is WAY overpriced for Angeles. The prices would be high even in Milan or New York, but for Angeles they are absurd (a small pizza is $14).

Azzure Restaurant, upstairs from Lacelot's, offers very good Italian food at reasonable prices. I also like the Maranao Grill at Oasis Hotel quite a lot. l SM Mall has several very acceptable eateries and the food at Wild Orchid is not bad at all.[/QUOTE]

WOW has friendly girls during the daytime. That's all I'll add.
[QUOTE=Mongering1]WTF? WOW bar the best BJ bar on Santos? I would put it as the worst bar in SEA! I won't get into details since it's against forum rules to mention, but unless it's your cup of tea then you better do a crotch test before sampling from WOW bar.[/QUOTE]

I see a few reports about finding good food in AC. Try Rosalinos on McArthur
Hwy if you want a good meal at a reasonable price. The local expats go there
and it's been a favorite for years.

Chickenlegs

Ahhh, back in AC.. good times!

Just got in last night. Decided to try out the La Mirage Apartelle (above Carousel Bar, right on Fields). All I can say is, I'm very impressed. It's your standard room, clean, and surprisingly quiet! A lot quieter than the Royal Apartelle (above Camelot), where I stayed last night. Damn chickens in the back kept waking me up at 4 am..if I was asleep, that is. La Mirage is 1300p/night for a standard ("Deluxe") room.. no view, but a window that lets in light and keeps your privacy. I like that. Also, free internet and room service from the Bistro downstairs. If you want cheap, close to the action, and don't need a pool, I highly recommend it.

As for WOW, I made my way there last night. Seems they finally realized that the baklas were bad for business, so there's a sign in the bar that says they're not allowed inside. There's still one or two outside sometimes, but inside the bar they're okay. Although I do recommend you go there reasonably sober just in case.

I also went in a few clubs last night just to get back in the swing of things. Hit the Viper Room (my perennial favorite, I just like the atmosphere and the management there) to play some BAD pool, then tried out Atlantis for the first time. Got attacked by one of the 'cultural' dancers who complained she hadn't had a barfine in 3 weeks. Very nice, petite body, but had terrible teeth and some kind of weird disfigurement scar on her chin. Definitely put me off with the aggressive attitude, though.

I will say, however, that Atlantis' staff was not bad. They did not hassle me for ladies' drinks (they only asked me once in the hour I was there). I like the stage setup, it seemed closer than Dollhouse (although it wasn't really), and the music was decent (at 3 in the morning). I might be persuaded to check it out again.

I will be in AC until the 21st if anyone wants to meet me for a drink/hit some bars. Just shoot me a PM.

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I've never lingered at WOW, but just quickly pulled a girl (have a semi regular) and left. That sign about no baklas has been there for awhile. The baklas hang outside across the street and can be aggressive, but I've never seen one inside or working there.

Atlantis is remarkably low pressure and the drinks are priced very similarly to most the other upper end gogos. Thursday night is their photo shoot (it's still Wednesdays at Dollhouse), and its definitely worth a look.

For nudity, the perimeter road bars are where it is at, what little is left that is. In the mid 90s, before the faux morality, there was a helluva lot more skin shown than today.

Any veterans here that can compile a list of all the bars, nightclubs, massage parlours and other monger points-of-interest into a concise single report? Your effort will be greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Almotu]Any veterans here that can compile a list of all the bars, nightclubs, massage parlours and other monger points-of-interest into a concise single report? Your effort will be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]
Thats a nice thought Almotu but that would be a monumental task. There has to be something like 150+ bars and keeping track of all the new ones not to mention the ones that have changed hands could be tedious. What is needed here are more FR by the membership. Failing that, you can refer to Wayne's AC map for starters.

[QUOTE=Almotu]Any veterans here that can compile a list of all the bars, nightclubs, massage parlours and other monger points-of-interest into a concise single report? Your effort will be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]Hi Almotu welcome! Firstly it sounds fun but things change so anything i did would be out of date soon. Secondly its not really necessary, just start at the end of Perimiter Rd where the bars are small cheap & cheerful, work your way along to the end of Fields Ave where the bars are big expensive & sometimes ignore westerners. Its one long strip of P4P. Some guys have made maps & bar lists in the past (just use the search). Go to the SM mall walk into the book shop & buy a 'EZ Map Angeles' its P100. It shows all the bars clearly in an inset called 'Balibago Entertainment District'. It helps get your bearings quickly. I have an excellent sense of direction but easily get lost in Phils towns without a map coz it all looks the bloody same when Im new in town.
Have you thought of using the search to compile a list for us poor old worn out mongers? hehehe :)
I attach a quick scan of the map to give you an idea of the layout. Please BUY A COPY & make it worthwhile for the authors to keep producing these very helpful maps.

AV
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I'm going to try to keep a running tally of every day on here for my trip. I've tried this before, but have never been able to get through the whole trip with reports. Let's see how this time goes!

So yesterday, after my girl o' the night left, walked down to the SM Mall to see if they could open-line my out-of-country phone (couldn't, stupid new models). Bought a book, and then went down and ate at the food court. Yes, I know, risky, but I'm actually quite fond of sisig, and I had a decent sisig/fried chicken/ice tea meal for 100P. Wasn't spectacular, but the price was perfect.

Got back, chilled in the room, then hit the Wild Aces Poker Room (inside the Wild Orchid Hotel, Santos St). No limit poker, 2, 000 P min buy-in, 25/50 P blinds. Last night there was a crazy crowd (some angry, some incredibly drunk, some just in their own little world) and I ended up playing for 6 hours. As a snack, I highly recommend the Shanghai Lumpia that WO can bring to you at the table for a snack.

Pros: Relaxed atmosphere, comfortable chairs, great location.

Cons: Still relatively new, so the dealers have some kinks to work out. No language rules, so you've got people talkin' Tagalog, Korean, and Arabic all over the table. Kind of scary when they're both betting against you. And a small problem with GRBs (Guest Relations Bugs).

Overall rating: 7, probably since I hadn't played poker in a while. I'll keep going back until I start losing!

After Wild Aces, went out with another poker guy to Gecko's, Typhoon, Blue Nile/Nero's, and Dollhouse. Thoughts:

Gecko's: Crowded! No seats, and this was at 12:30 am. I like the Gecko's management, so I felt good at my reason for leaving.

Typhoon: Nice crowd, girls were okay. New papasan there, JR, very young (27), looks Korean, but is full-on Filipino and is a great guy. Get into a conversation with him, he'll help you find the good ones in the bar.

Blue Nile/Nero's: First walked into Blue Nile, my buddy ran into the girl he BF'd last night, didn't want her again, so we wandered into Nero's. I found my girl for the night, Rachel, 20, nice black/red/brown dyed hair, great petite body, looked like a hip-hop dancer, but sweet, not dirty. Found out from talking to her that the Korean/Japanese visitors are not so common right now, so everyone was even nice to us 2 white guys! If you want to check out the large selection at the Blue Nile group, apparently now is the time. Although a warning to people coming soon, Japan's Golden Week (when everyone takes a vacation) is last week of April/first week of May. There will probably be an influx of Nihon-jin around the end of this month. Plan accordingly.

As Rachel just left with her nice tip, I'm going to shower, shave, do my taxes, and then head to the poker room at around 6. Again, if anyone on the board wants to meet up, just shoot me a PM.

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Reports still coming. Hope someone at least is enjoying them.

Yesterday, left around 2 and bought a cheap celfone (1100 P) on the street so I could send some texts; the SM mall people didn't have the software to make my usual phone open-line - I swear, with SMART and Globe's international services, this is the perfect country to buy a completely anonymous celfone, if you had someone in the PI to keep you topped up. Anyway, I digress.

Lunch - at Kokomo's. They've changed the menu since I came here last, and the service has just gotten worse. Ordered an Aussie beef pie, took 45 minutes to get to me. Good thing I had a book. The beef was dry and the gravy on the mashed potatoes had brown sugar in it? That was..odd.

Afternoon - Did my taxes online. Fun.

Evening - Played poker for a while, then headed out to some clubs. I got pretty drunk, so this is what I remember:

Atlantis: Went back to see if my opinion was unfounded from the last report. Still no problems with the staff. Not pushy at all. Very pleased. Stayed for a while, had some food from Dollhouse Cafe (not great, but not too expensive either..probably the cheapest thing about the Dollhouse group), and played some pool. One of the waitresses told me that Atlantis alone had over 800 employees. Boggles the mind. There were a pair of what I think are sisters among the dancers, but I left after some drunk guys started throwing 20 pesos in bundles off the 2nd floor.

Camelot: Waitresses never gave me a damn chance to just sit back and watch the show. I hate pushy waitresses, and I left after 1 drink.

Treasure Island: Blech. Admittedly, it was late (around 1 AM), but there was about 6 girls, all sub-standard, and the typical pushy waitresses who wouldn't leave me alone. 2 door girls actually jumped on me and wouldn't leave me alone. Shoved them off and left before my drink was finished.

Champagne's: Probably better earlier in the night, but nothing special.

La Pasha: Walked in and out. Probably didn't give it enough of a try, but I was pretty drunk by this time.

Finally, after about 10 whiskys (if you like whisky, I recommend White Castle, the local PI distilled whisky, it's quite good, and no more than 85P in all the bars), I just grabbed a ST girl from Santos St., had her do her thing, and settled down for a nice sleep.

I think I'll try to go to some bars earlier tonight.

Crazy Ami

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]Reports still coming. Hope someone at least is enjoying them.
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Sure, brings back memories. Got any photos to add?

Maple, sorry, no pictures as of yet. I'll try to improve on that though.

So, yesterday. Started off by waking up and heading for lunch at Molly Malone's. The food is not bad, but the menu needs some correcting. I ordered a taco salad (you know, with the deep fried shell and all the stuff put in it like a bowl), and I get 2 tacos, with the hard white shells and not nearly enough lettuce/tomato for my taste, not to mention no sour cream or guacamole. When I complain about this, they tell me "This is how our chef makes taco salad." Whatever, welcome back to the PI! I ate the tacos, and paid the bill, but I sat and watched the staff put white-out over all the "Salad" markers in the menu. :-)

After that, got a massage at IMEE Massage on Fields. It was pretty decent, as always. The masseuse told me that the other IMEE (the one I usually go to, on Friendship, in one of the little strip mall buildings) is closing down next month due to lease expiry. FYI. Then, feeling relaxed, I walked from the end of Fields to Honey-ko's on Friendship. Refreshing! I went there to see a girl that I had previously known from another bar, and we've kept in touch via email occasionally. As I walked in, she was walking out with her barfine for the night. I forgot how early Friendship started up! Ah well, I'm heading out there again right after I post this report.

Walking back from Honey-ko's, I stopped at the small little Japanese restaurant in the storefront next to Gentlemen's Club/Dr. Holm's. Nice food, if you like real Japanese food (Japanese curry-rice, katsu-don, gyuudon, etc., not just your typical sushi). Met up with a Japanese friend and hit Fields. Bar report to follow, but first this side note. I noticed, walking around with my friend, how the kids, the beggars, and the vendors always approached me for a handout or a purchase, but NEVER ONCE did they accost him. What's up with that? He's got more money than me, but because I'm white, I get beggared at. Interesting.

Anyway, bar report:

Coyote Ugly: Gone WAYY downhill since the last time I was here (7 months ago). Maybe 8 girls on the stage, low quality, and not a customer to be seen. A shame.

Paradise: Formerly Angels, on Fields, not much has changed except they built a sitting bar around the stage (previously it was just a step up from the rest of the bar. I kind of liked the closeness). Lots of pretty (but unfortunately mostly cherry) girls. Also met a guy who had a bodyguard (!!!) hired from Central Park (?!?!?!?! When did they start renting out bodyguards? And who needs it on Fields??)

Gecko's: Not bad. I like the close up bar, and Gecko's always seems to have a good number of pretty attractive girls. Nice place to chill out with the music, too.

Atlantis: My buddy wanted to see the "Brazilian Thong Show" that Atlantis has every Tuesday. Meh, not bad, but we sat way too close and got to see all the bad makeup jobs. It is interesting to hear the aspirations of the models for their future (Announcer: "Jenny plans to be a news broadcaster someday. Wow, look at that Thong!!")

Blue Nile: Sat upstairs, had some drinks. Friendly waitress helped us point out girls and get the cherry girl up/down. My poor buddy struck out 5 times; all the girls he liked were cherry. I had picked one girl, who was TALL (I think at least 5'10"), nice chest, and long legs, but when she got up to our seats, she was, for me, a definite butterface ("You know, everything's hot.. but her face"). Bought her a drink, thanked her for her time, and went next door to..

Nero's: Just wanted to say hi to Rachel (from 2 nights ago) and give her my number, since she had asked for it but I didn't have my phone yet. They said it was her day off, and then the mama san started texting her, telling her to get her ass to the bar! Hey, I'm not in that big of a snit about it. Told them to forget it, and they said "No, no, she come." Well, I finally got them to let her have her day off, and headed out. My buddy went home, and I went to..

Carousel: Downstairs from my apartelle, was very pleased with the selection and service. I think I was lucky to get one of the mini-mama's as my waitress , because I wasn't hassled so much. Found a great girl, Gillian, 20, from Samar, great chest, short brown hair with blond highlights, monster in bed. Great times, great times. She really seemed to enjoy it, so maybe she'll text me for a follow up visit.

So far, my only plan for today is to ***** out the booth I got my celfone from, and hopefully get them to give me a new charger, since the one that came with my phone broke off in the outlet the first time I tried it. Well done, that.

And so it goes..

The Crazy Ami

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Back in the mid 80', there were a series of bars on MacArthur Highway that specialized in ST and BJs. Leaving Fields Ave, turn left and go down about 1/2 mile. Bars were on the left. Fire Empire is a name I remember. Neepa Hut (known for live sex shows were a guy from the audience was dragged on stage and fucked and the space ship from the "Planet of the Apes") was across the highway.

I haven't heard any one mention them. Are these bars still in business?

Thanks,
Slim

[QUOTE=Nvslim]Back in the mid 80', there were a series of bars on MacArthur Highway that specialized in ST and BJs. Leaving Fields Ave, turn left and go down about 1/2 mile. Bars were on the left. Fire Empire is a name I remember. Neepa Hut (known for live sex shows were a guy from the audience was dragged on stage and fucked and the space ship from the "Planet of the Apes") was across the highway.

I haven't heard any one mention them. Are these bars still in business?

Thanks,

Slim[/QUOTE]Not there anymore. The Neepa Hut owner was assinated due too violence he gave to his female employees. He forced the girls to perform anal sex. Girl told her brother. The rest is history. Those were some wild days.

Crazy Ami: Note that being a 'Cherry' is a cop out excuse, maybe menstruation, maybe has infection, maybe sore from last night's big one, maybe not in mood. In any case, BEFORE you buy a girl a ladies drink, ask her if she does bar fine. Forget the talking and seduction bit, she is in the bar for MONEY. Go a few days later and the Cherry may not feel so Cherry and go with you.

If she wants to go with you, then ask if she has a baby. If she has, ask if it is in town. If it is, you can be sure she will be a Runner.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Crazy Ami: Note that being a 'Cherry' is a cop out excuse...
If she wants to go with you, then ask if she has a baby. If she has, ask if it is in town. If it is, you can be sure she will be a Runner.[/QUOTE]Hi FP, the way I see it 'cherry' is a polite way of saying 'no thank you'. I have not had trouble finding willing partners who were attractive to me. I have not had a runners although I did walk one back to the hotel entrance from my room when it was clear there was no chemistry. Many of the girls I've had stay overnight have had a kid. They have stayed the full night & were in no hurry to leave. If they want to leave there is a reason & its not always crookedness.
I think focus on having fun & dont get hung up on why some say no or why some wish to leave. My god, there are so many to choose from.. just have fun!
My 2c
AV

Ahh, a good night's sleep and continuing on with the reports.

Fastpiston: I agree with Amavida. I have never had any runners either, and I have also walked a girl out if the chemistry was just not there. And, for the record, it wasn't me who was getting all the girls who said they were 'cherry,' it was my Japanese friend, which may account for something. And, also for the record, we had bought a waitress a drink, and she was doing all the research for us.. my friend or I would point out a girl, and she would either tell us from her knowledge or go down and ask the girl if she was cherry or not. I always ask first.. makes for easier conversation later.

Anyway, my day.

Lunch: Ate at the Wild Orchid restaurant. Not bad (better than Kokomo's), but still not great. I had Chicken Parmesiagna with salad and mashed potatoes. The salad was okay (though too many onions), and the chicken was a little dry, but not bad. With 2 ice teas, set me back 325P.

Afternoon: Went to the celfone kiosk to get a replacement for my charger, since the plug broke off my first one the first time I tried to use it. They gave me a new one, no questions asked! Here's the lowdown, if you want a cheap cheap celfone to use for texting your girls:

What: Celfone kiosk, cheapest price on Fields (1100P for a Nokia 3315, most places only have the same Nokia for 1200 or a higher model for 1450), with a one-month, no questions asked service warranty.

Where: In front of JJ's Supermarket, on the right side of the entrance (there's another one on the left, but I don't know if it's affiliated).

How: Just ask for the cheapest celfone. If you ever have any problems, BRING YOUR RECEIPT, and they will deal with it, no questions asked. For me, they took me across the street to a repair shop, where they got another charger, tested it, and handed it to me. Took 2 minutes. Saw another guy trying to get his phone fixed, but didn't have his receipt. No dice.

Why: Great way to keep in touch with girls, drinking buddies, and anyone else. Also probably the cheapest open-line phone anywhere. If you travel, you can just buy a prepaid SIM card anywhere and use it while you're in town.

After the phone business, played some poker, then went out. I went to a LOT of bars last night, so I won't account for them all (even if I could). Just the notable ones:

Body Shop: Was having a party for the papasan. Nice girls, don't know about a regular day there, though.

Byrd Cage: Topless body painting. Quite nice, although I heard that Dollhouse was doing a similar thing that night, didn't check it out.

Club New Icarus: Korean management, who pays no attention to you. Mamasan's friendly, though. When we got there, all the hot girls had been barfined (we saw them sitting). Cultural dancers at Icarus are terrible (no coordination).

Dollhouse: All I will say is, there's a reason that these particular girls are on the morning shift (after 3 am). Ouch.

After the barhopping, just wanted a ST and then go to bed (I usually don't sleep as well with a girl in my bed). Got a girl from Heaven bar, Michelle, 21, who gave a very nice, relaxed performance in my room. Recommended.

I think I will check out the far side of Friendship today. I've heard some interesting things about Stargate AC-1, which is way down there. Stories about some fresh girls who aren't spoiled by the Fields' atmosphere. We'll see how it goes.

Stay tuned..

The Crazy Ami

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[QUOTE=SirBoneman]Not there anymore. The Neepa Hut owner was assinated due too violence he gave to his female employees. He forced the girls to perform anal sex. Girl told her brother. The rest is history. Those were some wild days.[/QUOTE]

That's a shame the bars are gone. They were side by side for about a 1/2 mile. Could always find some thing you liked. I was a walker and walked all the way down to McDonald's (2-3 miles) stopping in the bars for beers and a little slap and tickle.

Neepa Hut was a rough place. Always went with friends and never BF'ed the girls. They would give you a little taste during the strip shows.

Slim

[QUOTE=SirBoneman]owner was assinated due too violence he gave to his female employees. He forced the girls to perform anal sex[/QUOTE]I just love this freudian slip :) I imagine the cops on the murder scene saying "They put the gun where..??"
AV

[QUOTE=Noguera]Where can one find this famous Jo Jo (Joanne Asuncion)? Does she still hang out at Kokomo’s in the afternoon? Will she hook-up with ST customers? Price? Is there a phone number where she can be reached to setup a get-together? She is really cute.[/QUOTE]The report about Jo Jo was made by a jealous ex-boyfriend. He has been stalking her for months and has now been arrested on several charges including assaulting her (among other things). About the only true things in he post were her pics and her full name. Think about it. What guy is going to post a full name on the Internet of a hooker?

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]
Lunch: Ate at the Wild Orchid restaurant. Not bad (better than Kokomo's), [/QUOTE]
I have the impression, nowadays [u]every[/u] restaurant is better than Kokomoz.

Cheers!

Thanks Amavida & Mattrick.
I have only scratched the surface in researching the Philippines thread. Did not realize that everything was so concentrated, so all the places would be easy to find. Although, an informal straw poll of the 'Top 10 A.C. Bars' based on quality of the girls and bar customer service may make a good starting point of a A.C. Newbie like myself. Other locales that I have been to are not as user-friendly.

Any recommendations on a reliable taxi driver to make the trip from Manila to A.C.?

[QUOTE=Almotu]Thanks Amavida & Mattrick.
I have only scratched the surface in researching the Philippines thread. Did not realize that everything was so concentrated, so all the places would be easy to find. Although, an informal straw poll of the 'Top 10 A.C. Bars' based on quality of the girls and bar customer service may make a good starting point of a A.C. Newbie like myself. Other locales that I have been to are not as user-friendly.

Any recommendations on a reliable taxi driver to make the trip from Manila to A.C.?[/QUOTE]You're welcome. Im just one man & by no means an expert. I'd say if you are stopping in a reputable hotel in Manila before coming to AC then just ask the hotel desk to book 'a hotel car'. Alternatively if your going straight from Manila airport you can book a 'car' (usually a modern minivan) to drive you up. Prices should include fuel & tolls from these reputable sources. Around P2500 - P2750 each way all in all. Margarita station in AC has a pick service ([url]http://www.margarita-station.com/forms/airport_pickup_form.html[/url]) said to be ok also. The 'budget' travelers (god bless 'em) say that the bus service leaving from ermita is ok also. (Search the forum for 'Fly the Bus').
Hope this helps
AV

[QUOTE=Almotu]Thanks Amavida & Mattrick.
I have only scratched the surface in researching the Philippines thread. Did not realize that everything was so concentrated, so all the places would be easy to find. Although, an informal straw poll of the 'Top 10 A.C. Bars' based on quality of the girls and bar customer service may make a good starting point of a A.C. Newbie like myself. Other locales that I have been to are not as user-friendly.

Any recommendations on a reliable taxi driver to make the trip from Manila to A.C.?[/QUOTE]
AV is right. Use Margarita Station, or have your AC hotel arrange a car for you. I've never bothered to stay in Manila, so I can't vouch for which hotels there have service available.

Almotu - Since I'm always coming in from Tokyo (and hence, arriving around 11, getting through immigration by 11:30-45), I use the private car service from Margarita Station that he posted the link to. It's very professional. All the hotels in AC offer the service, but Margarita's is a little cheaper (2400P), and very secure. I have used it over 5 times I think, and they are always on time, show you your receipt, and bring drinks for you too (you can choose your preference on the form). They will also stop somewhere if you want to pick up snacks, smokes, etc. The management is also pretty serious about reputation, so they give you a feedback form to fill out, which will get you a free local drink if you give it to the Margarita staff. Recommended above other hotel services, such as Central Park's (the driver showed up with his wife in the car, which was..awkward..she slept the whole time in the front seat).

Anyway, my report for Day 6.

First, took a trike down to Friendship Gate. My Japanese friend recommended a restaurant down there called Hana-mi. After a week of dismal food, this was the BEST meal I've had in a long time, outside AC included. If you like Japanese food, you must try this place. It's a bit expensive, but worth it. I had the Hana-mi Set (590P), with sashimi, sushi, tempura, miso soup, eel, and tofu for dessert. Amazing.

Walked down from Hana-mi towards fields, and hit Stargate AC-1. Impressive motif with the sci-fi stuff in there; I like the gimmick. Very nice selection of girls, and they even had a great system where the cherry girls wear a white sash around their waist. Ingenious! I guess if the girls still wanted to say "No thank you," they can claim the ol' rag.

But I was on a mission, and I continued my walk down to Honey-ko's (quite a long way). Tried to find my girl from a previous trip and found her. I know most veterans probably know this, but I was very surprised that the barfine at Honey-ko's is still 1000P, probably the cheapest in AC. My girl was also telling me about the commissions at the bar, which turn out to be a bit higher than the other bars in the area, and also that the girls are allowed to simply say "No!" to a customer. Interesting!

By this time, it was about 8, so I went to play some poker then took my girl to Blue Nile for a show; there was a group called "Bad Influence," which apparently was girls from Japan, HK, Korea, and Brunei, cultural dancers, with a barfine of 5,000 pesos. I say apparently because we never friggin' saw them. We were sitting upstairs on a couch, and when the dancing started, all the Blue Nile girls stood *right in front of us* and would not move, even after I, my girl, and 2 waitresses asked/told them. Too crowded to get a mama upstairs, so we just left.

After some videoke, went home and had some fun. Now I need to figure out what to do today!

The adventure continues.

Crazy Ami

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I think it was over a year ago that I used "Fly the Bus" at about 500 pesos, but at the time it was more like "stall in traffic" bus. They may have upgraded by now. There have been posts about a new bus service going from the Brass Knob. If you decide to go the bus route let me know and I'll try to dig up the details...or just rtff.

X

[QUOTE=Amavida]Margarita station in AC has a pick service ([url]http://www.margarita-station.com/forms/airport_pickup_form.html[/url]) said to be ok also. The 'budget' travelers (god bless 'em) say that the bus service leaving from ermita is ok also. (Search the forum for 'Fly the Bus').
Hope this helps
AV[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Thanks for the help and the good tips for restaurants.

You got to admit that getting a descent food in AC is quite a challenge : )

If a michelin inspector would come to AC, he would hang himself! : )

I'm now in Cebu and when I arrived at the Marriot I had a delicious sole fish.
Let's hope Cebu girls are nice too.

Acutally why are you guys mongering in AC rather than a more friendly place like CeBu? Girls are better in AC?[/QUOTE]


Cebu is a better place to monger than AC?

Wow, that's one of those questions that has an endless answer depending on your intentions / likes / etc. I'll keep it simple.

I would say AC is better since there are so many bars and prices are low.

Cebu is nice because there are so many other things to do...and you can meet regular woman...and still do p4p if you need to. There are a limited number of bars and if you visit regularly like I do, you start to see the same women -- which has its pros and cons.

Have fun, X



[QUOTE=Tulip777]Cebu is a better place to monger than AC?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nvslim]Red Wings over Angeles City

As I mentioned in an earlier report, I had found a cluster of four nudie bars during my first trip to Angeles City during the mid-80s. These were my favorite hunting grounds because I like watching girls dancing naked while I drink cold beer. You also know exactly what you are getting, furry or bald, firm or saggy, shy or bold.

P.S.

Since some of you may think this is a Penthouse story, I have pictures.[/QUOTE]

Outstanding reportage! Great photography. I wish there'd be "where are they now" thread.

[QUOTE=Blink157]its the cheapest place on earth and thats why we here ....talkin about to beauty, you need to search more, but IM sure u find something for the niight.

staying at orchid inn now and typing while its dark, my gf sleeping ....hehehehehe....

Life is gud LG


Blink[/QUOTE]


Cheapest place on Earth? Too bad you didn't have time to think about that because your girl was there. I'm currently in Angeles right now for my first time and about to go out soon, so soon I can have my own personal experience of Angeles. When I drove through Angeles today it really did seem like there is nothing else to do besides bars/girls and maybe a mall.

I know Cambodia was at least half the price for girls and hotels. Cambodia really is a lot less developed than the PI , and many girls don't speak any english, but a lot of fun can be had for less than half the price of Angeles.
Cambodia didn't really seem much less developed than Angeles however.

Fly the bus has improved lately but they were really bad for a while. I think they now have one new bus and one old one. For the first time visitor my opinion of he easiest thing to do is to arrange a driver to pick you up at he airport. I personally use margarita if I arrange for a car. It should be about 2200p to 2500p range. Its easier to arrange the bus trip back to Manila from AC. There is a free shuttle to the airport from Swagman hotel in Manila (where the bus stops). Trying to get from the airport to swagman hotel sucks if re driver doesn't know where it is, and many don't.

Gagoo: how long since you were in Cambodia? A good friend is there this week and he has been going for more than a decade. He says pricing is worse than ever with ST AT LEAST $15-20 (was $5 as recently as 2 to 3 years ago). In some places, including Martini's, they wanted $40 for ST!

In Angeles ST should be between 600 and 700Pesos, less than $20 and nowhere near "double" the cost in Cambodia. I agree it is not the cheapest place in the World, but neither is Cambodia any more.

PP is much more developed and "safe" nowadays, but a LOT less fun. MANY guys who live in Thailand who used to go to Cambodia for a change of pace now go to Angeles instead.

Thanks for the update. If the taxi doesn't know Swagman Hotel, a newbie might say "Ermita church". That would get you pretty close -- or better yet download directions from their web site.I can't find any alternative bus service in my files, so maybe I was thinking of the Margarita service which was mentioned earlier.

Disclaimer: this information is out of date, so go the Swagman website to double check...

FLY THE BUS 500 peso [email]bookings@swaggy.com[/email] (probably not necessary except during high season)
MLA-AC 500 11:30 - 3:30 - 8:30
AC-MLA 8-12 - 3:00
AC - Subic 400 pesos Mon-Wed-Fri-Sun 10:00 AM to Any Hotel in Subic Bay
Subic - Angeles Mon-Wed-Fri-Sun 12:30 PM to Swagman Narra Hotel

Manila - AC shuttle. [url]http://www.margarita-station.com/airport.html[/url]

*** the bus is cheaper of course, but another plus is that you can often chat with other riders and get information. Occasionaly there is a single lady on the bus too, but they are most often on their way to meet someone.


[QUOTE=Fizzin]Fly the bus has improved lately but they were really bad for a while. I think they now have one new bus and one old one. For the first time visitor my opinion of he easiest thing to do is to arrange a driver to pick you up at he airport. I personally use margarita if I arrange for a car. It should be about 2200p to 2500p range. Its easier to arrange the bus trip back to Manila from AC. There is a free shuttle to the airport from Swagman hotel in Manila (where the bus stops). Trying to get from the airport to swagman hotel sucks if re driver doesn't know where it is, and many don't.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tulip777]Cebu is a better place to monger than AC?[/QUOTE]
Hi Tulip, I didn't see anyone respond so I just throw in a few words. AC & Cebu are both great places to monger but for very different reasons. Both have an international airport.

AC is one big collection of bars. if you are on limited time or keen to get your rocks off quickly this is the place. It is cheap & the number of P4P girls is big. Many (most?) girls in AC bareback. I mention it only so you can make an informed choice. There are SW's there and it is possible to find FL's/amatuers also. AC has little else to offer. There is a beach resort area not far away by expressway at Subic. There are P4P bars there also.

Cebu has less P4P bars, some quite expensive that cater to east asian clients, other P4P bars there are cheaper. There are plenty of opportunities to meet FL's & amateurs, freebies. There is a beach resort area nearby which is expensive with very average beaches. There is also nice islands nearby with fantastic beaches.

Accessibility is an issue for many sex tourists on limited time frames, AC, Manila, Cebu & Davao are directly accessible internationally.
The further you go away from these areas the girls are less sophisticated & more likely to give freebies/be GF's, however family entanglements can make life difficult/dangerous.

Here's a checkllist the sex tourist should consider before making a choice :
- How much money can I afford to spend
- How long can I stay
- Is my stay for sex only, sex + vacation or vacation with a little sex
- Do I prefer ST, LT or GF

General comments for new visitors. PI P4P girls are less 'commercial' than other areas os South East Asia. They will behave more like GF's than pro's. Prices are relatively cheap. They speak more english than elsewhere in SEA. Freebies take no responsibility for contraception, use it or be prepared to pay for the abortion/child care costs. The place is full of young girls with fatherless eurasian babies already. Please don't add to the problem. The people are warm & very friendly to foreigners. Use common sense, crime risk is proportional to your behavior. The country is struggling to emerge from third world status, don't get hung up on small frustrations.
AV

Ah, the one week milestone. Only 2 and a half more days left.

Today, walked down to Metrobank on McArthur Boulevard to get some money. It's the closest ATM for my card. Just as a note, the closest ATMs (AFAIK) from Fields are as follows, if you have these cards:

Mastercard/Maestro/Cirrus: Banco de Oro (BDO), right at the entrance to SM Mall.
Visa/Plus: Metrobank, across from Pagcor Casino (go to the end of Fields, turn right, and walk for about 5-10 min. til you get to the casino. Metrobank is across the highway. The building is set off from the road and looks kind of shady, but they have guards (with shotguns!) and I've never had a problem with the ATM for the 3 or 4 trips that I've used it. 10,000P withdrawal limit. If you can't find it, look for the BPI (Bank of the Philippine Islands) building, then look 2 or 3 buildings to the left.
JCB/Bank of China/Korean banks: Couldn't tell ya. Should probably inquire at your hotel.

After the money run, crossed the street again to the Pagcor Casino and the 5th Street Poker Room. If you're into that sort of thing, they have a 550P buy-in tournament everyday (registration begins 2 PM) with a 10,000P guarantee for the winner, and other prizes up to 4th place. Not bad, but loud, lots of Tagalog spoken (even though they say tables are English only), and the cards look a bit worn out. Still, good for some excitement. After the tourney, headed back to Wild Aces (at the Wild Orchid) and played until about 7 o'clock, then met up with my buddy and started the bar hopping. My notes:

Body Shop: Went back for a regular day. Very nice girls, relaxed atmosphere. I recommend stopping by for a quick drink.

Las Vegas: Part of the Korean-owned Agasya group, I always have to say that I like the style of those bars, even if they are sometimes less than welcoming to non-Koreans. More music than the 27 standard AC Hits collection, and a very pretty group of girls, combined with non-pushy waitresses makes me a happy monger. Saw a few girls to my liking, but they were taken, so we moved on.

The Honey Pot: Part of the Viper Room/Coyote Ugly group. Facilities look almost identical to the Viper Room, complete with comfy chairs, curtains, and pool table. Girl selection was quite limited, but nice atmosphere. Played (and lost) a couple of days of pool, and moved on.

Roadhouse: Walked in, seemed crowded and most girls taken, so moved on.

Edelweiss: Walked down to Perimeter to this nice little bar connected to a German restaurant. AFAIK, the only bar with real German weissbier (although they bring it to you in a can, you pour yourself into the glass). As a Perimeter bar, it closed at 1. We both found girls that we liked, but I decided not to because I was in the mood for a different body type, and my friends' choice was talking with the owner, and (according to the waitress) she was going back to the province the next day, so we left.

Dollhouse: Wednesday night I had seen a few girls that I liked, but I was quite drunk and didn't call them over before the shift change at 3 am (see previous report). Got there at 1 this night and called one of them over. Marilyn, 23, from Bicol. Very slender, great wide smile. We had a good time talking and watching my friend get rejected by one girl after another.

My poor friend. He told me earlier that it happens to him about 20% of the time. He's not ugly by any means, and he's only 30, so it shocked me to see so many rejections. We think it's because he's Japanese, but as he said, "I'm too handsome..they just get too shy!" Anyway, the excuses for tonight:

Girl #1: Waitress said no cherry, she came over and said cherry girl.
Girl #2: Seemed interested, but then she came over, talked to him for about 20 minutes, had a drink, and then said no to the barfine invitation. "Didn't like."
Girl #3: She said "Too shy," but ended up introducing him to her friend (or twin, they looked almost exactly the same to me), who finally managed to click with my friend, and off they went.

It's a good thing that we have different tastes in women!

Now, I'm just waiting for my laundry that reception *promised* me yesterday would be back by 3:00 pm today when I dropped it off. I guess I didn't hear "3 pm.. Philippine time."

The Crazy Ami

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[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]Gagoo: how long since you were in Cambodia? A good friend is there this week and he has been going for more than a decade. He says pricing is worse than ever with ST AT LEAST $15-20 (was $5 as recently as 2 to 3 years ago). In some places, including Martini's, they wanted $40 for ST!

In Angeles ST should be between 600 and 700Pesos, less than $20 and nowhere near "double" the cost in Cambodia. I agree it is not the cheapest place in the World, but neither is Cambodia any more.

PP is much more developed and "safe" nowadays, but a LOT less fun. MANY guys who live in Thailand who used to go to Cambodia for a change of pace now go to Angeles instead.[/QUOTE]

Greetings,

I was in Cambodia about 3 months ago. ST was $15 and LT was $30 if you got them out of one of the clubs. You can take as many of them as you wish to. So I took 2 upstairs for ST and they didn't rush me at all.

If you meet freelancers in a bar you can get $20 LT. My friend didn't negociate and when she left that afternoon gave her $20 and she was OK with it. A few days later I took home her sister, which was quite a coinidence. I negociated first for $25 LT. This girl was super hot though.

I guess there are still the place for $5 or $6, but you walk in, have a fuck, but there are stories of them trying to steal money out of your pants. I didn't want to go to somewhere like that. So I guess you can still get the $5 or $6 girls, but I won't give it a try. I only had one night in Angeles so far and didn't learn how to get a girl for 600 or 700 Pesos yet. I'll post a report on that later.

Yeah, not much else to do in Phnom Pehn. Me and my friend went to Siem Reap to see the Angkor Wat (maybe to justify a trip to Cambodia from Bangkok). Girls wanted more money in Siem Reap. I met a really hot looking one and told momasan I wanted to keep her for 2 days. We agreed to $70 and momasan wouldn't go any lower. So I had this girl stay with me for 2 days, had some fun, took her along pretty much everywhere, problem is she only knew a dozen English words. She did know some Thai, so it was interersting for me to use my very little Thai and her little Thai to talk to each other, it reminded me of seeing Japanese guys trying to talk to Thais' in English.

Someone mentioned which bars are top right now. In my opinion, any or all of the following bars are great to visit (basically in order geographically from Blue Nile on down)

- Blue Nile (not as good as in its heyday, but still big with lots of girls)
- Champagne (small, but good selection, good mamasans)
- Typhoon (probably my favorite, smaller but great selection, friendly wait staff)
- Las Vegas (big, friendly all around)
- Gecko's (small, but always a good time)
- Dollhouse (huge selection, second floor pool tables)
- Carousel (revolving floor makes it easier to choose, good selection)
- Atlantis (I was kind of disappointed at the selection, but it's new and big and shiny, definitely worth checking out)

Pretty much anybody would name all of these as the obvious places to go. I tend to stick with the tried and true (and any big bar has enough girls rotating in and out for a lifetime anyway!). Anyone like to suggest any others that are not as obvious, and mention their highlights?

[QUOTE=BK Big Fish]Someone mentioned which bars are top right now. In my opinion, any or all of the following bars are great to visit (basically in order geographically from Blue Nile on down)

- Blue Nile (not as good as in its heyday, but still big with lots of girls)
- Champagne (small, but good selection, good mamasans)
- Typhoon (probably my favorite, smaller but great selection, friendly wait staff)
- Las Vegas (big, friendly all around)
- Gecko's (small, but always a good time)
- Dollhouse (huge selection, second floor pool tables)
- Carousel (revolving floor makes it easier to choose, good selection)
- Atlantis (I was kind of disappointed at the selection, but it's new and big and shiny, definitely worth checking out)

Pretty much anybody would name all of these as the obvious places to go. I tend to stick with the tried and true (and any big bar has enough girls rotating in and out for a lifetime anyway!). Anyone like to suggest any others that are not as obvious, and mention their highlights?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've gotten to the point where "huge" isn't a plus. To each his own, of course. Carousel or LaPasha are about upper limit on how big of a bar I like. Some smaller bars I liked last time:

- the Mo's group of Paradise, King of Diamonds, and Voodoo. Never had a bad time with any girl from those places. Last trip I went to Voodoo for the first time in 6 months, and the Mama still remembered me and which girls I barhopped with.
- Angelwitch. Possibly a personal choice on my part but I get treated well here. Different shooter special every day, 6 for 500 pesos if you're so inclined.
- Bar Hoppin. Nice layout, nice girls, nice shooters list, and usually not busy. Good ratio in your favor.
- Gecko's. Agreed. Small though, so it doesn't actually have to BE busy to LOOK busy. Lots of nice looking girls here.
- Stampede. Just on the far side of ABC. Most underrated bar in town from what I've seen.
- Bunny Ranch. One of the least conspicuous storefronts in town, but I went in to see more than a few pretty girls, and only a few customers. The downside here is that half of the bench seating opposite the girls stretches all the way down the bar, so getting a good seat can be a problem if they're busy.

Also, the way-out Perimeter bars are nicer than I expected. Lost in Asia, Roadie's, and Mirrors were all pleasant surprises.

EDIT: added a missing "and"

[quote=amavida]it is cheap & the number of p4p girls is big. many (most?) girls in ac bareback. [/quote]
fellow mongerers,

that's a good citation to tell the latest story.

so far i had twice a std. the first was 2002 from a visit in cambodia and relatively easy to get rid off by taking a cocktail of doxycycline and ciprofloxacine. 5-6 days and it was fine.

i used condoms all the time after it. lets say till 2005, then i relaxed it a bit,
but nothing happened and i got careless.

coming back from ac last time (march 2008), my willy started dropping again. i have to admit, some rounds have been bb.

i took some pills as above and nothing worked, it even got really worse. peeing razor blades, you know what i mean?
had to go to the doctor but too late. it was a nice combination of gonorrhea and chlamydia and after that time it threatened already to spread into the blood and into the eyes.

finally, i needed 3 shots of cephtriaxone im in my thigh, each 1g (!) to get it removed. every 24 hrs and thats quite a lot.
supported by some new antibiotics i've never heard of.
3rd generation i was told.

it was not only the dropping out of the penis, the whole "thing" was in pain.
being touched was painful and every morning erection wasn't fun either.
you won't consider any boomboom with such an inflammated tool.
simply too painful.

just for consideration for the guys going raw.
these strains of gonorrhea aren't that easy to treat and the usual 1st generation antibiotics back from the 80ies or 90ies don't work anymore.
im shots or even iv is necessary nowadays to get rid of it quickly.
and these strains are available in ac.

since i travel to ac each time for a few days only, when i get symptoms, i'm back home and can treat it.
but if anyone is there for 2 weeks or more, it can spoil your complete annual holiday.

anyway, up to you, but i've learned my lesson.

cheers!

a good informative post without any moralizing. i'm glad to hear you and your little buddy survived the ordeal.

thanks for the heads up. (pun intended)

x

[quote=ekspat]fellow mongerers,

that's a good citation to tell the latest story.

so far i had twice a std. the first was 2002 from a visit in cambodia and relatively easy to get rid off by taking a cocktail of doxycycline and ciprofloxacine. 5-6 days and it was fine.

i used condoms all the time after it. lets say till 2005, then i relaxed it a bit,
but nothing happened and i got careless.

coming back from ac last time (march 2008), my willy started dropping again. i have to admit, some rounds have been bb.

i took some pills as above and nothing worked, it even got really worse. peeing razor blades, you know what i mean?
had to go to the doctor but too late. it was a nice combination of gonorrhea and chlamydia and after that time it threatened already to spread into the blood and into the eyes.

finally, i needed 3 shots of cephtriaxone im in my thigh, each 1g (!) to get it removed. every 24 hrs and thats quite a lot.
supported by some new antibiotics i've never heard of.
3rd generation i was told.

it was not only the dropping out of the penis, the whole "thing" was in pain.
being touched was painful and every morning erection wasn't fun either.
you won't consider any boomboom with such an inflammated tool.
simply too painful.

just for consideration for the guys going raw.
these strains of gonorrhea aren't that easy to treat and the usual 1st generation antibiotics back from the 80ies or 90ies don't work anymore.
im shots or even iv is necessary nowadays to get rid of it quickly.
and these strains are available in ac.

since i travel to ac each time for a few days only, when i get symptoms, i'm back home and can treat it.
but if anyone is there for 2 weeks or more, it can spoil your complete annual holiday.

anyway, up to you, but i've learned my lesson.

cheers![/quote]

[QUOTE=Ekspat] ... These strains of gonorrhea aren't that easy to treat and the usual 1st generation antibiotics back from the 80ies or 90ies don't work anymore. IM shots or even IV is necessary nowadays to get rid of it quickly.
And these strains are available in AC ...

[/QUOTE]


to Ekspat:

I am most impressed that you have shared these information with us! Thanks for the well-meant warning, brother!


Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I am most impressed that you have shared these information with us! [/QUOTE]
Why not? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Why not? I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one.
Cheers![/QUOTE]
Hello Ekspat, Thank you for your honestly mate. This is a warning to all the guys going to AC & 'forgetting' to use protection or being told by the girls 'Im clean, I have tests'.

BTW, most people infected with Gonorrhea are infected with Chlamydia also.

Current treatment of choice for Chlamydia is Azithromycin 1 or 2 Gram or in a single oral dose. Followed by 10 day course of Doxyclycline 100mg twice daily.

For Gonorrhea, If you're lucky you could get away with oral doses of cefixime 400 mg, ciprofloxacin 500 mg, ofloxacin 400 mg, cefpodoxime 400 mg, or levofloxacin 250 mg daily but it is unlikely to work in asian countries where antibiotic resistance ia already prevalent.

Current treatment of choice for Gonorrhea is Injections or Intravenous Cetriaxone/Cefotaxime/Ceftizoxime or Spectinomycin 2 grams intramuscularly every 12 hours.

Spare a thought for the girls left behind there suffering from these infections...

Cheers
AV

I've often spared a thought or two or three...

How do the bars handle this? Do they pay for their employees's job related illnesses?

I think I know the sad answer, but am curious nontheless.

X

[QUOTE=Amavida]
Spare a thought for the girls left behind there suffering from these infections...

Cheers
AV[/QUOTE]

Well fellow mongers it is homebound for me. Back to sweet home of Sydney Australia. I will miss all my gf but that is the way the life us mongers go till June I wait!

Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm new to the site, still trying to take it all in.

So, question: I'm thinking of coming out to AC in June or July. I know it's off peak, but it's really the only feasible time for me. Is there still a good bit of action to be had there? Is the weather absolutely abominable, or are you OK as long as you've got a hotel room with AC?

Any advice would be appreciated.

JO

Where are the Blow Job spots in and around Fields Ave?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Joe Olangar]Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm new to the site, still trying to take it all in.

So, question: I'm thinking of coming out to AC in June or July. I know it's off peak, but it's really the only feasible time for me. Is there still a good bit of action to be had there? Is the weather absolutely abominable, or are you OK as long as you've got a hotel room with AC?

Any advice would be appreciated.

JO[/QUOTE]Id love to have answers to these questions as well.

And I always thought its best to go in the low season. More girls, cheaper prices right?

[QUOTE=Dollars]Where are the Blow Job spots in and around Fields Ave?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

"A. Santos St." Just find Kokomo's (also known as Mo's) and you're there. Every bar in front of Shano's Irish pub is part of blow, row.

[QUOTE=Joe Olangar]Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm new to the site, still trying to take it all in.

So, question: I'm thinking of coming out to AC in June or July. I know it's off peak, but it's really the only feasible time for me. Is there still a good bit of action to be had there? Is the weather absolutely abominable, or are you OK as long as you've got a hotel room with AC?

Any advice would be appreciated.

JO[/QUOTE]

Jo

June/July is the slow season for punters, but there willbe plenty of girls, so that makes it an excellent time to go!

June is the start of the rainy season so you will have the odd day when it will rain constantly but apart from that the weather is fine. The weather will only impact upon your trip if you decide to go to a beach venue like Borocay/Bohol, if your sticking to AC then it won't matter.

I'll be there from June 8th and will be happy to show you around if your dates match

Gentlemen,

I have been a member and a avid lurker on this board for a few years now. This is a great site. It helped immensely in planning my Asian trip. I visited Angeles City in Jan. Of this year for a few days while I was touring Asia. I had a great time and looking forward to returning as I will be in Asia for the best part of 2 months at the end of the year or first of next year. Will be staying in Angeles for at least a week this time and maybe longer. I will be staying at the Pacific Breeze again because IMO it is a first class facility with first class service and a great location. Great for a newbie. Not many reports from me about my trip because it was a quick visit and I am not much of a writer or photographer but I will be ready for my next trip. Thanks to all the great writers here that made my visit more enjoyable. I made a few mistakes but nothing to serious. Would love to buy some of you wise men some drinks when I am there and get a few pointers. For now just wondering if anyone has heard anymore about the direct Bangkok to Clark flight that Cebu Pacific was suppose to start up. I hated the drive from Manila to Angeles.

Thanks in advance.

Kenya69

[quote=ekspat]fellow mongerers,

that's a good citation to tell the latest story.

so far i had twice a std. the first was 2002 from a visit in cambodia and relatively easy to get rid off by taking a cocktail of doxycycline and ciprofloxacine. 5-6 days and it was fine.

i used condoms all the time after it. lets say till 2005, then i relaxed it a bit,
but nothing happened and i got careless.

coming back from ac last time (march 2008), my willy started dropping again. i have to admit, some rounds have been bb.

i took some pills as above and nothing worked, it even got really worse. peeing razor blades, you know what i mean?
had to go to the doctor but too late. it was a nice combination of gonorrhea and chlamydia and after that time it threatened already to spread into the blood and into the eyes.

finally, i needed 3 shots of cephtriaxone im in my thigh, each 1g (!) to get it removed. every 24 hrs and thats quite a lot.
supported by some new antibiotics i've never heard of.
3rd generation i was told.

it was not only the dropping out of the penis, the whole "thing" was in pain.
being touched was painful and every morning erection wasn't fun either.
you won't consider any boomboom with such an inflammated tool.
simply too painful.

just for consideration for the guys going raw.
these strains of gonorrhea aren't that easy to treat and the usual 1st generation antibiotics back from the 80ies or 90ies don't work anymore.
im shots or even iv is necessary nowadays to get rid of it quickly.
and these strains are available in ac.

since i travel to ac each time for a few days only, when i get symptoms, i'm back home and can treat it.
but if anyone is there for 2 weeks or more, it can spoil your complete annual holiday.

anyway, up to you, but i've learned my lesson.

cheers![/quote]

i was just in angeles a couple days ago. i barfined 2 girls, and both of them were definately willing to let me do them bareback, and ohhh... i thought about it and was pretty close to doing it, but i didn't want to go home wondering if i caught something, so i covered up.

now i just wonder if the girls just expected that you would pull out and not cum inside of them, or if they didn't worry about that either. but then do i have to wonder if i have a baby in the pi somewhere.

i sat next to the momasan at... angel witch or was it honey pot, had a pool table in it. she answered any question i asked. she said all the girls have to get a hygiene check from a clinic once a week, and if they don't get their weekly they can get fined and banned.. i won't say barred.

i asked about cherry girls and she said it's up to the girls. but the doctor will let momasan know if they really are a cherry girl. cherry girls only need to do a hygiene check once every 3 months. she said one korean guy paid 120,000 pesos to take a girls' cherry. she also mentioned she was trying find someone to buy one of the other girls cherries.


she also mentioned that she hires most of her girls from samar. she will hire some girls from manila or local, but she doesn't like to do it because some girls make some money and just leave, so she has less control over these girls. it reminds me of the tactics momasans use in japan against the filipinas working in bars there.

Hi Gagoo! Im always interested in the inner workings of the bar scene. I like to pick up bits & pieces of inofrmation about it all. I have some BG GF's so I know a little about it.

[QUOTE=Gagoo]I was just in Angeles a couple days ago. I barfined 2 girls, and both of them were definately willing to let me do them bareback, and ohhh... I thought about it and was pretty close to doing it, but I didn't want to go home wondering if I caught something, so I covered up.[/QUOTE] Actually its not so much 'willing to let me do them bareback' as they just expect that you will because they think of themselves as 'clean' :(
[QUOTE=Gagoo]Now I just wonder if the girls just expected that you would pull out and not cum inside of them, or if they didn't worry about that either. But then do I have to wonder if I have a baby in the PI somewhere.[/QUOTE]Some take oral contraceptive pill (usually the ones who ALREADY have a orphan kid). The average girl is so shy about contraception that she will take no responsibility. Kinda explains why guys get knock backs, some will only go with a guy they like for that reason amongst other reasons.
[QUOTE=Gagoo]I sat next to the momasan.. She answered any question I asked. She said all the girls have to get a Hygiene check from a clinic once a week, and if they don't get their weekly they can get fined and banned.. I won't say barred.[/QUOTE]Actual rule depends on the bar management but usually they get a fine & stood down for 2-3 weeks (no work/income). It appears to be up to the girls to get themselves treated. How they gonna do that with no income to pay for the treatment? Im skeptical about the quality of the health checks. Even if they are thorough, unless you're first cab off the rank after she gets a clean bill of health, you still are playing russian roulette by barebacking. Girls with HIV are sent packing. Angeles is a big meat grinder. Young girls go there from all over, they are not educated to use condoms & when they get riddled with disease they are pushed out on to the street to fend for themselves.[QUOTE=Gagoo]I asked about cherry girls and she said it's up to the girls. But the doctor will let momasan know if they really are a cherry girl. Cherry girls only need to do a hygiene check once every 3 months. She said one Korean guy paid 120,000 pesos to take a girls' cherry. She also mentioned she was trying find someone to buy one of the other girls cherries.[/QUOTE]'Cherry girls' are a well known con. When you see Koreans paying these crazy sums of money, its no bloody wonder! The absence of a hymen does not indicate she is not a virgin. Its actually not easy to prove virginity from a medical standpoint. Its very easy for a girl to feign virginity, all she has to do is act shy, clench her pelvic muscles & show pain & bingo she just made P120,000. Im surprised more don't do it.. I would be skeptical of 'doctor say's it so' reassurances. Think about it. She claims cherry status & is not checked for disease for 90 days. On day 91 she is on her menstruation & so misses the check. How often are they REALLY checked? Meanwhile she is screwing her trike driver BF who is like most working class pinoys, screwing around. Hmmm... [QUOTE=Gagoo]She also mentioned that she hires most of her girls from Samar. She will hire some girls from Manila or local, but she doesn't like to do it because some girls make some money and just leave, so she has less control over these girls. It reminds me of the tactics momasans use in Japan against the Filipinas working in bars there.[/QUOTE]The mommas actively pimp local girls from right in their own neighborhood. No girl is above being pimped by them. They are always on the lookout for fresh meat. Yes they do bring in girls from samar/leyte and any where else they can get them. If a girl gets a BF & wants to leave the scene the BF is asked to pay a large sum as a final exit bar fine. If he does not agree the girl is sternly threatened with life time ban from bar work. But you know what? Within weeks the girl is being solicited again. Its all bullshit to keep the girls under their thumb & extract as much money as possible at all times.

How much do they get paid? In AC the average girl gets a 'salary' of P1500 as a retainer + share of LD's + share of occasional bar fine.
In Makati (P.Burgos) the average girl gets a 'salary' of P2500 as a retainer + share of LD's + share of occasional bar fine. Makati *****s are educated to use condoms. They are usually handed one or two as they walk out of the bar with you.

I think Blink157 has more insider info about running bar's.
AV

[QUOTE=Amavida]... Kinda explains why guys get knock backs, some will only go with a guy they like for that reason amongst other reasons.[/QUOTE]

Umm, what do you mean by "knock backs"?

[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the update. If the taxi doesn't know Swagman Hotel, a newbie might say "Ermita church". That would get you pretty close -- or better yet download directions from their web site.I can't find any alternative bus service in my files, so maybe I was thinking of the Margarita service which was mentioned earlier.

Disclaimer: this information is out of date, so go the Swagman website to double check...

FLY THE BUS 500 peso [email]bookings@swaggy.com[/email] (probably not necessary except during high season)
MLA-AC 500 11:30 - 3:30 - 8:30
AC-MLA 8-12 - 3:00
AC - Subic 400 pesos Mon-Wed-Fri-Sun 10:00 AM to Any Hotel in Subic Bay
Subic - Angeles Mon-Wed-Fri-Sun 12:30 PM to Swagman Narra Hotel

Manila - AC shuttle. [url]http://www.margarita-station.com/airport.html[/url]

*** the bus is cheaper of course, but another plus is that you can often chat with other riders and get information. Occasionaly there is a single lady on the bus too, but they are most often on their way to meet someone.[/QUOTE]

How are people getting to/from the international airport to Olongapo/Barrio Barretto these days?

[QUOTE=Kenya69]Gentlemen,

For now just wondering if anyone has heard anymore about the direct Bangkok to Clark flight that Cebu Pacific was suppose to start up. I hated the drive from Manila to Angeles.

Thanks in advance.

Kenya69[/QUOTE]Hi Kenya,

No flight yet from DMIA Clark to Bangkok but don't imagine they will long in coming, although don't hold your breath as this is, after all, the Philippines.

Seems there are ambitious new plans to develop DMIA, which if they come to fruition (see last statement above) would mean big changes, and much needed regeneration, to the Clark/Angeles area. What effect this would have on the bar scene is anyone guess.

See [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diosdado_Macapagal_International_Airport[/url] for more details.

Didn't realize that DMIA is capable of accepting the Space Shuttle. Wow, astronauts in Angeles! Makes sense actually as the place is full of space cadets anyway :D

GH

P.S where did you come by your handle. Are you one of those intrepid souls who monger in Africa?

Not clear from reports here what the standard Angeles bar fine is. Is it paid to the bar and then more to the girl? Or is the bar paid only and they pay her?
In Sabang, Puerto Galera for instance it is a 1000P to the bar and 1000P for the girl. Worth a visit even if you are not diving (sea type).

Um, Maple Red, by "knock backs" I think AV is referring to the fact that lots of ladies will not go with someone if they don't like them.

The usual excuses are either they are 'cherry girls' or 'menstruating' either of which may be true, but just as easily might mean they don't want to go off with someone.

Lots of these ladies do NOT see themselves as hookers, and have quite a bit of choice as to whether or not to go off and do horizontal aerobics with anyone.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]Not clear from reports here what the standard Angeles bar fine is. Is it paid to the bar and then more to the girl? Or is the bar paid only and they pay her?
In Sabang, Puerto Galera for instance it is a 1000P to the bar and 1000P for the girl. Worth a visit even if you are not diving (sea type).[/QUOTE]In AC Its in the range of P1100 - P1500, most commonly about P1300 - p1350 all in all plus a small tip if the monger so desires. I rarely tip unless there is very good reason as they are already well paid by the standards of everyday working filippinas. I do give small gifts often.
Compared those prices to Makati around P3000 (Bar) + P3000 (Girl). Yikes!
AV

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hi Kenya,

No flight yet from DMIA Clark to Bangkok but don't imagine they will long in coming, although don't hold your breath as this is, after all, the Philippines.

Seems there are ambitious new plans to develop DMIA, which if they come to fruition (see last statement above) would mean big changes, and much needed regeneration, to the Clark/Angeles area. What effect this would have on the bar scene is anyone guess.

See [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diosdado_Macapagal_International_Airport[/url] for more details.

Didn't realize that DMIA is capable of accepting the Space Shuttle. Wow, astronauts in Angeles! Makes sense actually as the place is full of space cadets anyway :D

GH

P.S where did you come by your handle. Are you one of those intrepid souls who monger in Africa?[/QUOTE]Thanks GH,

No I have never mongered in Africa. Might go sometime though. I am Canadian and that was my first trip outside North America or the Carribean and my first real monger trip.I will probably return to Asia every year from now on out. The winters here really do suck. Got the sweet smell now. Maybe we can get together for beers when i am there. Thanks for the imformation and have a good summer.

Kenya69

Hello to evrybody,
have a hard time to catch up to ISG lately cause im waiting since a month for the f...n PLDt line in my home..I heard yesterday some dude dropped by and installed it..but not sure if its workin or not my room mate will txt me laters.

As soon its fixed I come up with more info and reports, Im just to busy these days :D

yesterday I went grand opening Tropix. It belongs to the atlantis/dollhouse group. They shift some stunners over there, so maybe today u will have the usual 90% of dogs dancing there....hehehehe...

Took 2 gurls with me, they told me they both work tomrow in Atlantis again, cause nobody gives them a tip there LOL (also me I didnt gave, just 2 choclate bar from my fridge when I send them home next morning)

Tonight I will back at agassya I saw a gurl there I wanted to barfine longer time ago, but she stop workin for a while, maybe had some sugar daddy who cut her off now..so she is back and lets see how and where things will go..

barfine in tropix is 1300..nice lay out but later the aircon gets really cold brrrrrr...

I will hit the sheets again and and ctach some sleep..typical weekend for me in AC .....sleep, drink, f..k ,sleep, remote control hahahaha


happy hunting

Blink

PS I have to read 4 weeks back to catch up with you guys and post then I will reply to some post

Well sad to say back to business at home. But a quick note, I noticed on Perimeter Road a huge 5 star hotel going up on the left side heading away from field ave. Anyone know what the name of it will be. Its in a strange spot as well where it is away from field ave and near the more relaxed bars on Perimeter. Its right next to the big Catholic church. Be interesting to know what others know about it for it seems like it close to opening up within the next few weeks.

[QUOTE=Dcand4].... I noticed on Perimeter Road a huge 5 star hotel going up on the left side heading away from field ave. Anyone know what the name of it will be. Its in a strange spot as well where it is away from field ave and near the more relaxed bars on Perimeter. Its right next to the big Catholic church. Be interesting to know what others know about it for it seems like it close to opening up within the next few weeks.[/QUOTE]It is the Grand Lewis Hotel that hopes to open on 1-May.

[QUOTE=Amavida]
Actual rule depends on the bar management but usually they get a fine & stood down for 2-3 weeks (no work/income). It appears to be up to the girls to get themselves treated. How they gonna do that with no income to pay for the treatment? Im skeptical about the quality of the health checks. Even if they are thorough, unless you're first cab off the rank after she gets a clean bill of health, you still are playing russian roulette by barebacking. Girls with HIV are sent packing. Angeles is a big meat grinder. Young girls go there from all over, they are not educated to use condoms & when they get riddled with disease they are pushed out on to the street to fend for themselves.
AV[/QUOTE]
Hi AV,
Just got back home from my trip, chatting to a friend of mine she always says I am clean. She has a pussy swab once a week and takes 5 minutes to return a negative result LOL.

As for the girls getting pushed out on the street, I think it was in the Body Shop they had the bucket of ping pong balls and on the bucket it said xx for girls xxx for bar to put into an emergency fund for girls.

My friend says ( now this may not be true for every bar..) but the bar she was in would help out the girls in trouble and all the other girls in the bar would chip in to assist the girl, out of their own pockets. But in saying that she likes to lie to me too. Maybe someone on the ground can ask around as to what ready happens to the girls in trouble.

You can see in many bars, that they have girls working that are clearly pregnant, but it was funny to find out that there are a number of dancers still on stage that are 2/3 months pregnant. If you just looked at them you may not know but it helps if you have friends to tell you who is pregnant and who is not.

[QUOTE=Dcand4]Well sad to say back to business at home. But a quick note, I noticed on Perimeter Road a huge 5 star hotel going up on the left side heading away from field ave. Anyone know what the name of it will be. Its in a strange spot as well where it is away from field ave and near the more relaxed bars on Perimeter. Its right next to the big Catholic church. Be interesting to know what others know about it for it seems like it close to opening up within the next few weeks.[/QUOTE]i am in ac now, asked a guy there he said it will be a american/phillpino run hotel looking for catering for westeners, he told me name is greystone

It is fucking huge, all the other hotels must be shitting themselves, but this can only be good for us a bit more quality competition.

[QUOTE=Joe Banana]Not clear from reports here what the standard Angeles bar fine is. Is it paid to the bar and then more to the girl? Or is the bar paid only and they pay her?

In Sabang, Puerto Galera for instance it is a 1000P to the bar and 1000P for the girl. Worth a visit even if you are not diving (sea type).[/QUOTE]I am in ac now for 3 weeks, barfine is mostly 1300 peso, you pay this to the mamasan in bar, the girl gets half of this, thats it.

If the girl gives good service then tip her up to 500 peso final limit.

I mostly give 300 peso, they are happy with that.

For really shit service i gave a blue nile girl nothing tip, usual bola bola " your dick hurts me, its too big rubbish, i want to go home", begged me for security trike fare, but told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. No service no tip, simple.

The new hotel is called the Lewis Grand, it will be opening very soon.

Here is a link: [url]http://www.lewisgrand.com/[/url]

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Any Hole]I am in ac now for 3 weeks, barfine is mostly 1300 peso, you pay this to the mamasan in bar, the girl gets half of this, thats it.

If the girl gives good service then tip her up to 500 peso final limit.

I mostly give 300 peso, they are happy with that.

For really shit service i gave a blue nile girl nothing tip, usual bola bola " your dick hurts me, its too big rubbish, i want to go home", begged me for security trike fare, but told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. No service no tip, simple.[/QUOTE]Is 1300 peso for LT of ST?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Sagramore]The new hotel is called the Lewis Grand, it will be opening very soon.

Here is a link: [url]http://www.lewisgrand.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
Website will be up on opening day, May 1st.
Have reservations for the soft opening (with promo discount) next month.
From what I hear, they will give PB and WO serious competition.
Will give a complete report!

[QUOTE=Oakwood99]Is 1300 peso for LT of ST?

Thanks[/QUOTE]


For that much I got LT both times I had a girl there. One girl didn't really want to be barfined and wanted to go home early, so I said she could go after we boom boomed one more time... did it and let her go about 5AM.

The other girl didn't seem to want to leave and made it easy for me to know I can boom boom her all I wanted. She left about 3:30PM the next day. I actually wanted her to leave earlier so I could do a few thing around town, but I was too much of a nice to kick the naked girl that was willing to give me all the sex I wanted out of my bed.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Um, Maple Red, by "knock backs" I think AV is referring to the fact that lots of ladies will not go with someone if they don't like them.

The usual excuses are either they are 'cherry girls' or 'menstruating' either of which may be true, but just as easily might mean they don't want to go off with someone.

Lots of these ladies do NOT see themselves as hookers, and have quite a bit of choice as to whether or not to go off and do horizontal aerobics with anyone.[/QUOTE]


I saw a girl I really wanted to have at the Honey Pot. I guess she really didn't want to be barfined, but I guess the momasan told her she should do it because I'm handsome.

Later after we did our deed, then went to a disco, and did the deed again, she told me she hasn't gone with a customer in quite awhile and told me all of her excuses she tells the customers. Seems like the I'm on my period is the most common excuse. Then she told me what momasan told her.
The girl had stories of how boyfriends screwed her over this and that and it seems like she became a man hater. She wanted to go home after we came back from the disco, but I told her only after we did the nasty again, she was reluctant, but I guess she wanted to go home, so I got my way with her before I let her go. I wanted to finish the second time from behind and she seemed reluctant again, but let me do it. After that she told me she never did it doggy style before. Hard to believe though because she has worked there a year and has had some boyfriends before.

[QUOTE=Any Hole]I am in ac now for 3 weeks, barfine is mostly 1300 peso, you pay this to the mamasan in bar, the girl gets half of this, thats it.

If the girl gives good service then tip her up to 500 peso final limit.

I mostly give 300 peso, they are happy with that.

For really shit service i gave a blue nile girl nothing tip, usual bola bola " your dick hurts me, its too big rubbish, i want to go home", begged me for security trike fare, but told her to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] off. No service no tip, simple.[/QUOTE]

Did the price go up so much? 500p tip? I paid 600p - 700p for ST less than 3 years ago, 800p for 2 girl blow job on Fields just off Santos. And that's when it was 50+ pesos per $1US.

nah tulip, he said 500p is the absolute upper limit - not the normal tip.

think pse + gfe + whips and chains + [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] + photos + all day and night = 500p tip.

people from non-tipping cultures (like australia and the phils) don't tip as much as others, if at all. i often do not tip if i just get normal gfe - it is not expected.

check out a few travel websites - the phils is not a tipping culture, so even a small tip is regarded as an extra for most people. of course as more people tip, the more people get used to it and expect it.

(in fact, a story against me - i had a 380 bill at mo's, and had 420 out to pay, and the american guy who was a regular, and was sitting next to me that day told me to only put out 400 tops - the waitress seemed quite happy)

I have just left AC the price in the lower end of fields ave is 1350 peso there is no distinction between lt or st, you would be advised to sort out how long they stay before paying, but that is no guarantee as two times last trip I was told " I will stay all night " left around two hours after walking in the door.

Some tell you what you want to hear, which is in fact a lie but you can't do anything about it.

Tipping I don't agree with it (had one low life throw the tray down on the floor when I left no tip) The more people give tips the more they expect it whether the service was good or bad, but if I talk to a girl and the waitress does not bug me I will leave a tip.

[QUOTE=Sagramore]The new hotel is called the Lewis Grand, it will be opening very soon.

Here is a link: [url]http://www.lewisgrand.com/[/url]

Cheers![/QUOTE]

hmm...whenever I pass it I had the feeling they built a menthal institute, but now as you mentioned it...yeah could be a hotel :D

May 1st? I will check it.

happy hunting

Blink

I spend many times in SE Asia, also the Philippines.

I had a lot of SW the first times in Bilbao, on the corner of A Santos and Real streets( near the good Swiss Hotel/Restaurant).

They are not the pritiest girls, see the picture.

But if you just arrive for the first time you think they are the top.

Some girls took care of me - protecting me from doing stupid things.

Thats the one on the right of the picture called "Mirasol".

If you walk arround there and you are shy like me it feels like having a date.

Benefit is that you pay them AFTERWARDS , so when they did what you asked them to do.

After a while I get less shy and went into the clubs.

Most clubs put up the volume high so if you want to speak with a girl you need to buy a ladies drink. Thats with most bars North of Magarita station (the main drag at Bilbao - so Fields avenue). I have no experience with those bars. To big step for me.

South of Magarita station (from Chowking so arround the good/affordable/safe American Hotel) I have expriences.

There the volume is less and you can sit close to the "dancing" ladies and ask things like if they want to go with you long time just when they are dancing.

A good place is Emotions and the bar just from the left of it (same owner I think). Als 1km further south in the Mayon Street you can have some fun at Club Nifty (I can advise you Lisa - not pretty but she will do all with you to pleasure you - also get another girl which feel herselfe to good to go with you alone; phone 0982787911). I can garantee you - many girls are lazy but she will keep on going until you are satisfied!!!

Asside Club Nifty there is club Rio. It was difficult to get a girl for long time there and when I had one she told me she had to email with her friend arround midnight but she never came back. But all to money is already in the pocket of mamasan. Next day the girl was not at Rio so I could not point to here.

Same thing I had with a girl "Vivian" from Dr Holmes, asside the (noisy) Club Gentelmans. With Vivian I had sex and then we went out and arround midnight we aarived at her former bar "Edelweis". A verry dirty and sleezy bar with chairs with holes in the seats so you can see the foam. Vivian dindn't liked that I didn't liked to spen whole night in Edelweis with her friends and she left me. Next morning I want back to Dr Holmes and I spoke with the (I believe Norwegian) barowner. If they have your money and if you had one time sex with the girl your money is gone.

Well, I think most girls just hate to dance whole night and go with you out LT to have fun with you. If you are lucky they even sleep the night with you (you offer a better bed). But if you get older like me you can have sex at evening and then again the next morning. I can tell you - the most wont give you sex at the morning. I spend many times a lot of money whole night, let them sleep in my bed, and next morning NADA, no like sex.

So IF you like LONG TIME in Bilbao, NEVER pay alle the money in advance.

That meens that you have to get a SW/freelancer.

The only barlady I could always trust was Lisa from club Niftys.

Also Roxane from a club close to Chow King (Someting like Styreetwise) is a nice girl. I spend a lot of money on her and others in that bar.

But now for all the members who think the girls do realy like you the next.
I returned to the same bars when I was with my wife in the hotel so i couldnt barfine the girls who i was thinking they liked me. I just took a drink at the same bars. The girls rememberd me but were only asking if I wanted to take them with me again. If I said I cannot do that toneight they lost all interest in my. To think I gave them so much (including nice tops).

Realy, I can close this report with the line a waitress was telling to me (at streetwise and later at Silver Dollar in Cebu) Its all for the money.

If you realy want to find out if a girl realy loves you (and not your money) then you have to return once without money to the same bar.

Someone who loves you will also TALK with you in the bar wen you are out of money! And that realy never happend to men in Bilbao.

Except the SW (see picture) and in less extend Lisa(Nifty) would talke with you "for nothing"...

So NO bad word about Bilbao SWs, especially kind Marisol.

They are good!

Bbut dont take Minors in front of other girls-they get jalous and call the police to get 10.000$ tip money!

But a lot of bad words on many many bars, with one exclussion; Lisa(Niftys).

Happy Hunting on the Bilbao streets and take care in the Bilbao bars!

Andre

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Hello

In most places the barfine is the same when you take a girl out!

About 1200P average(little higher to the north, little lower to the perimeter streets in the south - south of magarita Station/Chow King)

Therefore Many nice girls will not go with you out.

They must like you or expect that you spend a lot of money on them, or they are less attractive and they are tired to dance whole night.

Normally I give a tip of 200P if they did what they promissed (also sex next morning). At LT we spend also a lot of money on food and drinks!

In some bars they have ST rooms, then you go inside and you just pay 600P for one pop. If you like ST (one pop a girl) better go to bars with st rooms.

Where you can find ST bars?

If you walk from along Kokemos bar to the east, take the first street to the right and then imidiately again to the left. You pass the entrance of Swiss hotel, pass Swiss hotel and go further to the east to the end of that street, there you go right(only way possible) and at the end of that street you see to the right a lot of ST bars (also called BJ bars).

So one pop lover - save money and go to the one pop bars!

They are waiting for you with open mouths (shouting welcome) untill you fill them with 600P and a creamy desert.

Andre

[QUOTE=Philip]I have just left AC the price in the lower end of fields ave is 1350 peso there is no distinction between lt or st, you would be advised to sort out how long they stay before paying, but that is no guarantee as two times last trip I was told " I will stay all night " left around two hours after walking in the door.

Some tell you what you want to hear, which is in fact a lie but you can't do anything about it.

Tipping I don't agree with it (had one low life throw the tray down on the floor when I left no tip) The more people give tips the more they expect it whether the service was good or bad, but if I talk to a girl and the waitress does not bug me I will leave a tip.[/QUOTE]

Leaving after 2 hours when agreed on all night is being a runner. That's what I hate about paying upfront. They throw trays down not because there are outraged but because it worked for them before with weak guys.

You had me worried there Blink. I'm thinking to myself, what is a "menthal institute"? Does this have something to do with tobacco? Have I been away from AC so long that I don't understand the lingo anymore.

Oh, then it clicked. Just a typo, I assume.

X (We'll be looking forward to hearing about the smoking policy at the menthal institute after you visit)



[QUOTE=Blink157]hmm...whenever I pass it I had the feeling they built a menthal institute, but now as you mentioned it...yeah could be a hotel :D

May 1st? I will check it.

happy hunting

Blink[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]
That meens that you have to get a SW/freelancer.
[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report. I would just like to comment on this bit: Please be very careful with freelancers in AC!! There have been several police setups in AC with freelancers.
If you are not 100% sure of what you're doing and know AC well better pick your girl from the bars.

[QUOTE=Andre Cuipers]So IF you like LONG TIME, NEVER pay alle the money in advance ... That meens that you have to get a SW/freelancer...

... If you realy want to find out if a girl realy loves you (and not your money) then you have to return once without money to the same bar...

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Andre:

with all due respect, but I would rather discourage everybody to take a freelancer! I always chose bargirls and pay the barfine - of course well in advance (there is no other option, isn't it!?)! However, I agree that some cuties like to disappear after 2 hours or so, but most of them will stick to their promise if LT was agreed beforehand.

One more tiny little remark: you have indeed a fair chance to find "a girl who really loves you and not your money" in Bilbao, but certainly not in Balibago! :) IMHO, of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels

1 year ago, the bar fine is 1200peso, now 1350peso

6 months ago, pacific breeze hotel is US$41, now $48

2 years ago, you can choose the hotel when arrived AC, now you need to reserve the rooms 3 month before coming, unless you stay further hotel like Clarkton.

It is still cheaper than Manila, but the good old times was gone.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]I have the impression, nowadays [u]every[/u] restaurant is better than Kokomoz.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Kokomoz is slow and terrible taste.

It is a good place to have a drinks, but not for eating.

Try the Chow King, cheap but not too fast for a fast food shop.

[QUOTE=Malibu21]1 year ago, the bar fine is 1200peso, now 1350peso
6 months ago, pacific breeze hotel is US$41, now $48
2 years ago, you can choose the hotel when arrived AC, now you need to reserve the rooms 3 month before coming, unless you stay further hotel like Clarkton.
It is still cheaper than Manila, but the good old times was gone.[/QUOTE]We're talking about an increase in BF's of just over $3.00? .. and for that you get a girl to stay all night with you & fuck you as many times as you want.. c'mon let's come back down to earth.
It's MUCH cheaper than Manila & is still arguably the best overall value for money of any place in Asia.
AV

Had a great time in AC last month. 5 fun filled days.

Blow Row has changed, some.

[quote]Malibu21:
2 years ago, you can choose the hotel when arrived AC, now you need to reserve the rooms 3 month before coming, unless you stay further hotel like Clarkton. [/quote]
I can handle the small increase, it seems to be happening everywhere. But what is the real situation with hotel reservations?

I'm arriving May 7th, for 2 weeks. I was hoping to book 2 nights online at a popular place (maybe Pacific Breeze), then find something cheaper (like $20-30). That's what I've done in Pattaya a couple times.

I'd be open to hotel suggestions from anybody. I need internet and a convenient location, but not a pool. I've been reading this forum and another pi forum like crazy, but the number of hotels seems staggering and the different areas of AC have me confused.

If anybody will be there in mid-May, feel free to PM me. I've met up with many guys from this forum over the years. It's always worth it to share stories.

[QUOTE=Dboy]I can handle the small increase, it seems to be happening everywhere. But what is the real situation with hotel reservations?
I'm arriving May 7th, for 2 weeks. I was hoping to book 2 nights online at a popular place (maybe Pacific Breeze), then find something cheaper (like $20-30). That's what I've done in Pattaya a couple times.
[/QUOTE]Well I have often emailed a reservation a day or two in advance. I even make bookings over the phone as im being driven from Manila to AC. But common sense should prevail If your coming during a holiday/peak time. (I prefer to visit outside these times)
AV

i had a planned my first visit to angeles last month, thanks to amavida and others for the tips i received however i will not be posting any ac reports as in the end i went back to pattaya and indonesia.

the reasons for my change of mind were numerous, i tried to book a flight into clark direct from singapore with tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with singapore airlines to manilla.

i wanted to stay at the pacific breeze but it was full so i booked into the clarkton.

after reading some reports on the internet about police scams with **** girls (the clarkton was the hotel in question in one report) and many people saying not much to do during the day apart from doing what you do at night.


not looking forward to the drive from manila.

i changed my ticket with singapore airlines to bangkok sorry guys.

PB is a good place, but not my favorite. You were "hoping"? What does that mean...you couldn't get the reservation?

I like swimming pools, but maybe you'd like a central location, good food downstairs, and mirrors?

Swiss Chalet?



[QUOTE=Dboy]I can handle the small increase, it seems to be happening everywhere. But what is the real situation with hotel reservations?

I'm arriving May 7th, for 2 weeks. I was hoping to book 2 nights online at a popular place (maybe Pacific Breeze), then find something cheaper (like $20-30). That's what I've done in Pattaya a couple times.

I'd be open to hotel suggestions from anybody. I need internet and a convenient location, but not a pool. I've been reading this forum and another pi forum like crazy, but the number of hotels seems staggering and the different areas of AC have me confused.

If anybody will be there in mid-May, feel free to PM me. I've met up with many guys from this forum over the years. It's always worth it to share stories.[/QUOTE]

Was on a recent business trip to San Diego and stayed in what I would call a modest hotel:

Breakfast: $22.75
One beer in their lounge (looking at middle age fat women)$8.00.

I agree, lets not loose perspective here, prices everywhere inevitably go up.


[QUOTE=Amavida]We're talking about an increase in BF's of just over $3.00? .. and for that you get a girl to stay all night with you & fuck you as many times as you want.. c'mon let's come back down to earth.
It's MUCH cheaper than Manila & is still arguably the best overall value for money of any place in Asia.
AV[/QUOTE]

I agree with what was said earlier about ST = LT.

I'm booking early around 8PM or so, because I'm horny. As during the afternoon pretty much everything is closed on fields, so hard to pick up a good girl. DollHouse afternoon lineup is rather pathetic.

So when you pick up early, you have a drink, you go home at 8. 30 or 9. You talk a bit, you shag, then a little bit of social time.

And around 11PM the girls asks if she can leave, generally before she tells you a sad story about the baby she had with a client and of course he doesn't provide any support, her sick mother whatever, after you hear that:

1- unless you're on vitamin V; pretty impossible to get hard again.

2- how can you refuse to let her after hearing her sad stories.

So can anyone give me the tips to get the girls to respect their overnight term. I like my second round in the middle of the night, and my morning round

Thanks for the tips.

Also what's the position of the clubs on this topic? I mean more barfines for them, they can't be totally against this.

Crikey X-Man, Sweet As is a cracker, any more photos? Put the bar fines up I say if that's what you get. Does Swiss Chalet have a good swimming pool?

Hmm. Breakfast in San Diego 22. 75

Looking at Fat Chick while drinking beer 8. 00

A girl all night in ac fucking you endless for $30. Priceless.

[QUOTE=Dboy]I can handle the small increase, it seems to be happening everywhere. But what is the real situation with hotel reservations?

I'm arriving May 7th, for 2 weeks. I was hoping to book 2 nights online at a popular place (maybe Pacific Breeze), then find something cheaper (like $20-30). That's what I've done in Pattaya a couple times.

I'd be open to hotel suggestions from anybody. I need internet and a convenient location, but not a pool.[/QUOTE]If you come to AC for the 1st time, stay at Pacific Breeze $48 or Central Park $32 is recommend, under the same group.

For booking of popular hotel like Pacific Breeze, you better do it now.

I need to book 10+ rooms everytimes, that's why I need to book at least 3 months advance.

[QUOTE=X Man]PB is a good place, but not my favorite. You were "hoping"? What does that mean...you couldn't get the reservation?

Swiss Chalet?[/QUOTE]Wow, the Swiss Chalet is better than i think.

Don't think they have the Swimming Pool.

I try to reserve with them b4, but the email reply is quite slow.

[quote=lukeskywanker]i had a planned my first visit to angeles last month, thanks to amavida and others for the tips i received however i will not be posting any ac reports as in the end i went back to pattaya and indonesia.

the reasons for my change of mind were numerous, i tried to book a flight into clark direct from singapore with tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with singapore airlines to manilla.

i wanted to stay at the pacific breeze but it was full so i booked into the clarkton.

after reading some reports on the internet about police scams with **** girls (the clarkton was the hotel in question in one report) and many people saying not much to do during the day apart from doing what you do at night.

not looking forward to the drive from manila.

i changed my ticket with singapore airlines to bangkok sorry guys.[/quote]dear singaporean,

maybe you should try to pay the tiger with online banking the airasia allow me to pay by the online bank too. balai & batam is a good cheap place, but you should give ac a try. angeles city is more safe than indonesia in my opinion it is just 2 hour by bus from manila.

[QUOTE=Malibu21]
2 years ago, you can choose the hotel when arrived AC, [/QUOTE]
You still can choose your hotel. I'm now in AC and almost every hotel has a sign "vacancy" outside.
The hotels can't be fully booked, not many customers here.
Reservations only in December/January necessary IMHO.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Amavida]It's MUCH cheaper than Manila & is still arguably the best overall value for money of any place in Asia.[/QUOTE]
Last weekend I've been to Jakarta, got a 9/10-BBBJ for 70k IDR.
The girls look was easily on par with Santos' girls, no time limit, and the room provided with shower and fresh towel was way cleaner than those in Santos.
70kIDR = 7.6 USD = 320ps.
Thats value for money! :D

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Dboy]If anybody will be there in mid-May, feel free to PM me. [/QUOTE]
Me now in AC for the weekend, hope to back 16th-20th May.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Dboy]I can handle the small increase, it seems to be happening everywhere. But what is the real situation with hotel reservations?

I'm arriving May 7th, for 2 weeks. I was hoping to book 2 nights online at a popular place (maybe Pacific Breeze), then find something cheaper (like $20-30). That's what I've done in Pattaya a couple times.

I'd be open to hotel suggestions from anybody. I need internet and a convenient location, but not a pool. I've been reading this forum and another pi forum like crazy, but the number of hotels seems staggering and the different areas of AC have me confused.

If anybody will be there in mid-May, feel free to PM me. I've met up with many guys from this forum over the years. It's always worth it to share stories.[/QUOTE]You shouldn't have any problems finding a hotel. The rainy season starts in may so its not quite as busy. Don't let the different areas of AC confuse you. They are all in the same basic small area. Perimeter road and fields are really the same road it just changes names. Santos st. Intersects fields so its a side street. Things get more spread out as you travel further up perimeter road from field which translate into a long walk or trike ride instead of a short walk.

[quote=lukeskywanker]i had a planned my first visit to angeles last month, thanks to amavida and others for the tips i received however i will not be posting any ac reports as in the end i went back to pattaya and indonesia.

the reasons for my change of mind were numerous, i tried to book a flight into clark direct from singapore with tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with singapore airlines to manilla.

i wanted to stay at the pacific breeze but it was full so i booked into the clarkton.

after reading some reports on the internet about police scams with **** girls (the clarkton was the hotel in question in one report) and many people saying not much to do during the day apart from doing what you do at night.

not looking forward to the drive from manila.
[/quote]

just wanted to comment on reports and what they are worth and decisions to change plans like that. some of the things reported here are blown way out of proportion and i'm afraid, it's caused someone who was intending to go to ac to change his mind. not being able to book a flight into clark to me is no reason to change your itinerary. the whole manila to ac travel time and stuff to me is way overdone. really, is an extra 1.5 to 2 hours each way going to make that much of a difference? shoot there is lots of time to kill in ac so what's the big deal? the ride isn't that bad.

pacific breeze is a very nice hotel. the staff there and central park have historically been very good. it's probably the most recommended hotel for angeles for mongers. i try to stay at one or the other because i have a past with them, but that doesn't mean there aren't other good to very good hotels there. there are actually plenty for a variety of price ranges. it's nice when the staff greets you by name, but it doesn't make my trip. all i need is clean and quiet for me, and there are plenty around for that. if i can't get a room there i just get another hotel.

police scams? heard about them but just through message boards and some of the stuff sounds like rumors gone wild. i'm not saying there aren't scams going on, but for one, if you are a common sense type of person, the chances are pretty low of you getting involved in something shady like that. if you aren't then mongering is dangerous anywhere as you are prime to get screwed eventually.

yes ac could get boring for some during the day but it's not that bad. it's chill. you can barhop, you can just relax and recover from the night before, you can hang out with your woman from night before go eat or watch a movie. there are bars to go that are only good really during daytime and early early evening. the other big bars start opening around 6 or 7 so that's pretty early compared to venues in jakarta. i find the daytime can be really boring in jakarta. trying to get back and forth to one side of jakarta can take an hour or more almost as long as it takes to get to ac from manila, but of course cheaper.

it's all perspective. i've traveled to a lot of different places in se asia, and to me all the reasons mentioned for changing the itinerary were way too small of a deal to do so. maybe there are some other mitigating factors, but if not, i wouldn't have changed for those reasons. some people like to make little things into big things. ac is worth crossing off a checklist for a monger. it's not my favorite destination, but it is something i don't mind doing now and then.

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]I tried to book a flight into Clark direct from Singapore with Tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with Singapore airlines to Manilla.[/QUOTE]
On the webpage of Tiger Airways is clearly stated, that payment by Credit Card is possible. Here:
[url]https://booking.tigerairways.com/help/booking_info.php[/url]

Scroll down to step-5 referring to payment.
So whats your point?

Well said, @Key Master.

Cheers!

I always fly Tiger airways only problem I had was I was late arriving in Singapore one time and missed my connecting flight to Clark. I just spoke to the girl at the service counter at the Budget terminal in Singapore and paid cash for a new ticket to Clark the next day. You can always try Cebu Pacific from Singapore to Cebu then fly from Cebu to Clark if you have to.

I think they are usually fully booked, which may explain their laziness about answering emails. No excuse, but that's the way things are in Phil.

No swimming pool, sorry for my earlier post which was misleading.

And yes, there were more pictures, including one with the bedside mirror. Unfortunately, I've already posted it so ISG won't let me post it again.

X


[QUOTE=Malibu21]Wow, the Swiss Chalet is better than i think.

Don't think they have the Swimming Pool.

I try to reserve with them b4, but the email reply is quite slow.[/QUOTE]

Ekspat,

I have had some problems with Tiger Airways and credit card payment myself. I tried to use a M/C from one bank and it spat. Tried a couple of times - same result. I tried another M/C from another bank and ok. Not sure what the problem is, but it is definitely possible that Tiger is having merchant vs bank problems from time to time.

Pity, because I like them. They fly right into Clark - what's not to like. :)

Hello to all,

just want to tell what happen to me yesterday on my usual weekend trips to angeles city.

I decided to take swagman bus to angeles city, had a breakfast in Swagmann hotel, Beef tapa (terrible meat)made me a little pxxd cause I was in holiday mood, long weekend
Some noisy couple went in,guy with his 2 horrible noisy kids and his wife (look to me she work in the P4P busness before...I decided to get my headset out and put it on high volume to my favoured Old skul of rock CD.

After the bad breakfast I decide to order sM LIGHT to get started for AC.

Anouncement came to "board the fly the bus" which I did. Its May now and its really really hot. When "on board" I ask for SM light..."Sorry sir, out of stock" WTF....how can a resto get out of stock with SM light or any oher cold drinks...stupid excuse....I put my headset on again, and higher the volume..
I looked out of the window and the Driver still in Manila. what took him so long? I guess it was May 1st, so some rallys where going on and blocking some mayor roads..or...he just stupid :D..who knows...

We made the usual stop at a gas station with 7/11. At this time the sorry-sir.fly-the-bus-***** could get some cold drinks...nada...of we went again..

3 Km before san fernando a loud BANG occured...Bus stops , we had flat tire..Great!!! I get off the bus and me and some other guys standing in the shades having bets on how long it will take that we got picked up from their other bus....traffic police arrived..after the discussion with the drivers they told that if they dont remove theis bus within 30 minutes somebody esle will do it...Swagmann was called and they assure they will be here on time.

45 minutes later we heard another loud BANG..another truck lost his tire..instead of parking his truck on the right lane, he parked just on the left..causing allmost-accidents. from overtakin cars , cause normally the left line should be free for overtaking.right?? no, not right, we in the Philippines.. I watched the traffic control, they were still in their car, doing nothing..havent they seen the accident?? havent they heard the load BANG??? I went to them and told them they was anothr accident. "Yes sir, many acciddents here" I told them that there was another accident right now..They looked at me like I was from planet mars.. I took the guys hand and showed them where the truck parked..ON the f...ing left lane!!!They react very quick, took them just 5 minutes to decide to do something.

Now what they did wasnt to kick the drivers ass and just pull down the Truck to the right lane so it wont cause any trouble, no they closed the left lane so that the low life truck driver could repair his flat tire...

That was to much for me...I need a cold beer, I guess it was 40 degrees...I think I haluzinate I saw a young gurl walkin with an umbrella coming from nowhere, aproaching the highway..she passed by with a smile and then kept on walkin along the high way to san fernando...not a halluzination....its the PHILIPPINES!!

after an hour or so we were sitting in a cold aircon bus again..heading to angels city. I heard some mechanical noise again...please dear god, just bring us to AC, please....no cold beer on board...I should know it...

1st of may, labour day, yeah , I should know it, some f.kersdecide to do a rally...of course it happend when we were on the way to fields to load off the mongers from fly the bus..I got off the bus, I need a shower, a cold beer, maybe both at the same time...called my fav hotel, sorry sir we fully booked, called my secound one, sorry sir we.....called swis chalet, sorry, sorry, went to ochid inn, yesss...they had a room for me, just for a night, who cares I need a beer, a shower. Price was 2750p but they give me allways 10 percent discount.

Took some nap after shower and cold beer, dressed and went to Gecko bars. Looked at the tall waitress. She was smiling to me, told me it was her first day as wettres , she worked as a cashier before. Barfined her, went to my hotel, she was hot and super horny..bum2 her all night..had to kick her out on the mornng, gave her a tip..txt my german buddy who decide to went to Puerto gallera this weekend about my recent luck with the barfine. he txt me back "F U..nothign happends in here its all sh..t"

Well, some guys get all the luck :D

Over and out

Blink 157

PS yes xman it was a spellin mistake after this trip i was ready for the mental thing, not menthol menthal..btw Im non smoking :D

PPS Expat, lucky you that you get a room, Im now transferd from deluxe to standard in orchid inn, noisy noisy but still can access wifi from my room :)have some stomach problems..thats why I have a time writing all the stuff here, hopefully Im better later or tmrow, I just want piece and some quiteness and maybe later some pussy

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello to all, just want to tell what happen to me yesterday on my usual weekend trips to angeles city.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the FR Blink. memo to me : forget the bus!
AV

Hi to all,
thanks AV for the warm words :D

Sitting at orchid inn now and typin this. Got some stomach ache last night, took first dia tab, doesnt worked, then went back to pharmacie and request something molu...or lasmitol...not sure about the spelling and that seems to work now..
Went to bed early but couldnt sleep well, so off I went to Dollhouse, knowing that my so called GF workin in atlantis nearbye which I decide not to meet cause of my "problems" Loaded with gatorate I decide to talk to a gurl named Mona lisa, one of the famous gurls there, solo dancer, spotlight, 25 and still virgin and she wanted 3000 p for barhop LOL..anyway I didnt want to take any body oiut so I waved her over and we talked and when i told her where I live her eyes get gloomy and I could see the green money blinkin :D. I gave her my adress and my cp number , she had relatives living nearby, so maybe i get lucky..Anyway, thats not the point of my story. When i was in DH I realized some gurls eying me, when I left i ve been asked where I go, I asnwerd home, cause Im sick. Once Iwas in orchid inn, suprise, surprise who comes in with 2 asian guys, acording to their noise and behavior they must be korean. My so called GF with another hottie from atlantis..When she saw me she died instantly :D and turned into something like Lot`s wife....
I greet her a hello...then went to bed..Well, I tell you guys, dont fall in love with a gurl from ac, u can be sure if u dont get her out of the bar or barfine her, she be back and somebody else will do it. Im on site , so even Im here evry weekend shit also happens to me, I thought I was cool about my feelings to her, but when she showed up with a fu..er , coolness were gone, knowing they in the same hotel...SO to all the guys out there who fall in love to a gurl, be carefull, even ur on site, you only have 2 options, accept the fact she works in a bar and she fucks around, or get her out of the bar, which means u have to pay and support her and her bitchy lazy family.

Lets see what will happen next, Im here until sunday. If anybody here for a coffee or softdrink, cant drink alohocol yet, Im at orchid inn, at the bar, staring on the tight black pants of the wetress hahahaha...

Happy day to all

Blink

Blink,

Sounds like a nightmare indeed. I'm sure you won't be giving your business to Swagman anytime soon!

Should have taken the Southern Cross shuttle; brand new Hino bus.

Btw, the entire Swagman empire is for sale except for the Narra and hopefully the potential new owner will fire the chef and buy some new buses!

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi to all,
thanks AV for the warm words :D
Sitting at orchid inn now and typin this. Got some stomach ache last night, took first dia tab, doesnt worked, then went back to pharmacie and request something molu...or lasmitol...not sure about the spelling and that seems to work now..[/QUOTE]G'day Blink, sorry to hear you are not well mate. Hope you are feeling much better soon! You think it was that bad tasting meat you mentioned?[QUOTE=Blink157]Went to bed early but couldnt sleep well, so off I went to Dollhouse, knowing that my so called GF workin in atlantis nearbye which I decide not to meet cause of my "problems" Loaded with gatorate I decide to talk to a gurl named Mona lisa, one of the famous gurls there, solo dancer, spotlight, 25 and still virgin and she wanted 3000 p for barhop LOL..anyway I didnt want to take any body oiut so I waved her over and we talked and when i told her where I live her eyes get gloomy and I could see the green money blinkin :D. I gave her my adress and my cp number , she had relatives living nearby, so maybe i get lucky..Anyway, thats not the point of my story. When i was in DH I realized some gurls eying me, when I left i ve been asked where I go, I asnwerd home, cause Im sick. Once Iwas in orchid inn, suprise, surprise who comes in with 2 asian guys, acording to their noise and behavior they must be korean. My so called GF with another hottie from atlantis..When she saw me she died instantly :D and turned into something like Lot`s wife....
I greet her a hello...then went to bed..Well, I tell you guys, dont fall in love with a gurl from ac, u can be sure if u dont get her out of the bar or barfine her, she be back and somebody else will do it. Im on site , so even Im here evry weekend shit also happens to me, I thought I was cool about my feelings to her, but when she showed up with a fu..er , coolness were gone, knowing they in the same hotel...SO to all the guys out there who fall in love to a gurl, be carefull, even ur on site, you only have 2 options, accept the fact she works in a bar and she fucks around, or get her out of the bar, which means u have to pay and support her and her bitchy lazy family.
Lets see what will happen next, Im here until sunday. If anybody here for a coffee or softdrink, cant drink alohocol yet, Im at orchid inn, at the bar, staring on the tight black pants of the wetress hahahaha...
Happy day to all
Blink[/QUOTE]No matter how cynical & worldly we think of our selves its always hard to deal with your feelings when you start blurring the line between business & pleasure. I agree, if you & a BG girl want to cross over from a business deal to a personal relationship then you must be prepared to take her out of the scene. Most of us here know how you must feel & commiserate with you mate. Are you sure you really want a GF?
Once again hope you are feeling much better very soon.
AV

[QUOTE=Amavida]Are you sure you really want a GF?[/QUOTE]
AC, Pattaya, Phuket, K11, BlokM, BATS, 30, CJ, Jaksa, Stadium, Dolly's, Martini's, Sharkeys, Sophie, Desperados,
Orchard Towers, Chang Ping, Geylang, Beach Club, KTV's, Nana, LA Cafe,
etc. etc. to be continued.......
For a GF I'd search everywhere but there.
IMHO.

Sorry to use two cliches in one sentence...but, been there, done that ...and I feel your pain. Jealousy/hearbreak has to be one of the worst emotions. Fear can be fun, people sky dive and ride rollar coasters and watch horror movies. Jealousy/heartache is just a fkd emotion that it's best to just get over it....it's amazing how many people react and overreact to such feelings -- the Filipinos especially!

On the bright side, AC is a good place to forget about a woman.

And I'll add something...even if the girl IS NOT a bar girl...if you aren't on site 24/7 you have to understand that she might stray or otherwise look for greener pastures. And even IF you take her out of the bar and give her an allowance, you still have no guarantees if you aren't there.

Way back when, when I was in the military and made six month voyages to the ends of the earth...I seem to remember the cheating and/or divorce rates being very high. If any American "old salts" are reading, do you remember the Westerner in National City? Wow, what drama, what debauchery!

Although I quoted Blink below, this post is meant as general info and not advice to Blink. Thanks for sharing Blink.

X

Hmmm, maybe this should be in the Filipinas thread.


[QUOTE=Blink157]
My so called GF [/QUOTE]

Hi to all,
thanks for the warm words guys and for the PM`s as well..AFter some txting and calls today I got more info from her,what still makes me pissed is, that when she saw me she could kick her barfine, or just tell him to get his money back or even tell me to pay him, I dont care at all, I would do it, cause when i actually see a guy takin your regular gurl, even she works in bar, you get mixed feelings and as I said , she stop working and only went back cause I didnt send her some money, but maybe also family forced her into it again.

Anyway, we txt so I found out the guy is malaysian, not what I thought korean..BTW expat, where you from? :D...well I guess it wasnt you, cause first the guy had to spend huge money on drinks on her..then he pay 3000p barfine..plus he gave 2000 pesos tip..She told me that..

SO...WTF!!! ARE THEY ALL IDIOTS!!! 2000p tip!!! no wonder , no wonder....

Good news at least..I bought Lomotil, and it apprntly works. no more suprising visits on cr so far, means I can go barhop again and visit the hot wettress from champange..I saw her before, she is new and have a pretty face, tall and the right curves, lets see..

But I guess I will also stop in Atlantis to see my regular...well , lets see, have to get dressed now guys, I come up with more info laters..

as for infos on hotels, XMan would like orchid inn, cause the jasmine wing has mirrors. Price is 2750 p with a 10% discount. Its quiet, cause Im facing the backside of the new Wing, not the streets.


Happy barhop

Blink

[QUOTE=Blink157]
Anyway, we txt so I found out the guy is malaysian, not what I thought korean..[/quote]
Most likely one of our Chinese Malaysians.
Don't worry 5,000ps is pocket money for the most of them.
KTV's in KL are much more expensive.
[quote]BTW expat, where you from? :D...well I guess it wasnt you, cause first the guy had to spend huge money on drinks on her..then he pay 3000p barfine..plus he gave 2000 pesos tip..She told me that..
[/QUOTE]
Me German based in Malaysia.
No worries, it wasn't me, I don't take Spotlight dancers.
Had a waitress yesterday.....

Cheers!

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]I had a planned my first visit to Angeles last month, thanks to Amavida and others for the tips I received however I will not be posting any AC reports as in the end I went back to Pattaya and Indonesia.

The reasons for my change of mind were numerous, I tried to book a flight into Clark direct from Singapore with Tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with Singapore airlines to Manilla.


I've booked a flight from Macau to Clark with Tiger using my Visa. They do take credit cards on-line.

[QUOTE=Key Master] There are bars to go that are only good really during daytime and early early evening. It's not my favorite destination, but it is something I don't mind doing now and then.[/QUOTE]

That was a common sense report. Just curious, what is your favorite destination?

[QUOTE=Tulip777][QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]I had a planned my first visit to Angeles last month, thanks to Amavida and others for the tips I received however I will not be posting any AC reports as in the end I went back to Pattaya and Indonesia.

The reasons for my change of mind were numerous, I tried to book a flight into Clark direct from Singapore with Tiger they would not take a credit card online so ended up with a flight with Singapore airlines to Manilla.


I've booked a flight from Macau to Clark with Tiger using my Visa. They do take credit cards on-line.[/QUOTE]

The budget airlines sure screw around with credit cards. With Cebu Pacific they make the booking but say pending confirmation. Often this status status for about 2-5 days depending on their vibrations...

Hi Tulip,
Don't want to drag this out more than needed but I tried with a Master card and a Visa card, I have used both cards all over the world no problems.
The end result was the same with both cards, I went all the way through the booking process and hit the confirm key at the end I was then given an error message but it didn't say it was refused! after trying the second time with the same outcome I was then worried maybe I had booked 2 flights so I rang my card issuer to check no money had been taken as Tiger say they have a strict no refund policy even if you double book a flight It cost me 75SGD to change my flight from Manila to Bangkok with Singapore airlines.
By the way I have flown with Air Asia, Jetstar Asia and Value air and always use my credit card online as I live in England.

May the force be with you.

[QUOTE=Rubberyman]...I tried to use a M/C from one bank and it spat. I tried another M/C from another bank and ok. Not sure what the problem is, but it is ... possible that ... merchant vs bank problems...[/QUOTE]Exactly!

If your card is rejected try a card issued by another bank.
I have two Aussie issued cards, both expensive to use & frequently rejected.
The Aussie banks are shit scared of fraud in Asia.

I have a citibank issued card which works everywhere, anytime.
AV

Stayed in a Swiss Chalet suite about a year and a half ago - $52 and it was a great room with canopy bed. Only problem was the steps. Also, the steps in the room, i.e., the bathroom is another flight up inside the suite.

[QUOTE=Malibu21]Wow, the Swiss Chalet is better than i think.

Don't think they have the Swimming Pool.

I try to reserve with them b4, but the email reply is quite slow.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Malibu21]If you come to AC for the 1st time, stay at Pacific Breeze $48 or Central Park $32 is recommend, under the same group.

For booking of popular hotel like Pacific Breeze, you better do it now.

I need to book 10+ rooms everytimes, that's why I need to book at least 3 months advance.[/QUOTE]I just decided to return to PI (Oct 08) vs Rio and booked myself into one of the Executive Jacuzzi Suites. For $75 it looks pretty nice and reserving online was SIMPLE! Last time I was in AC, I stayed at ABC. A very nice hotel, for the price, but the room interior was a bit much for my liking. Not to mention, I think being a little closer to the action will be good.

I like the honor system with follow-up confirmation a few days before your arrival, but the lack of a confirmation number and guaranteed reservation always a bit worrisome. Same process as ABC used, and that worked out just fine. Hope Pacific Breeze doesn't loose my reservation being that I made it so far in advance of my trip.

I had the same problem with Tiger Airways. You need to make sure your card is signed up for the "verified by visa/mastercard" service. Visa.com has more info about that.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4]...Same process as ABC used, and that worked out just fine. Hope Pacific Breeze doesn't loose my reservation being that I made it so far in advance of my trip.[/QUOTE]Just remember this _is_ the Philippines we are talking about. Sometimes you turn up have to wait quite a while for your room to actually become available. At PB just leave your baggage in secure storage with the porter & go have a drink/meal in the dining room. Bonus : you can get the phone numbers of the (extremely fuckable) waitress's for off duty action ;)
AV

[QUOTE=Amavida]Just remember this _is_ the Philippines we are talking about. Sometimes you turn up have to wait quite a while for your room to actually become available. At PB just leave your baggage in secure storage with the porter & go have a drink/meal in the dining room. Bonus : you can get the phone numbers of the (extremely fuckable) waitress's for off duty action ;)
AV[/QUOTE]

You are right, this IS The PI.......Expect the unexpected. Just because it should be that way, doesn't mean it will be so.......LOL I guess the positive thing is this is not a major travel period, from what I remember.

What is the quality of the waitresses these days? What is the going rate for a "hottie"? Does one need to go somewhere else or are they OK coming to your room in the hotel they work? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[QUOTE=Amavida]Bonus : you can get the phone numbers of the (extremely fuckable) waitress's for off duty action ;)
AV[/QUOTE]

This sentence got me thinking.

Normally, it hotels when waiting for a room, you'll be at an almost deserted bar, or, in an almost deserted restaurant where the waitress will simply pop over and drop off whatever you've ordered before skipping back behind the scenes....

One cannot offer to buy her a drink nor really try and engage her in conversation too much (being mindful she is on the clock), so, how does one metamorphose this situation into a telephone number and happy moist feelings?

[QUOTE=Blunderer]This sentence got me thinking.

Normally, it hotels when waiting for a room, you'll be at an almost deserted bar, or, in an almost deserted restaurant where the waitress will simply pop over and drop off whatever you've ordered before skipping back behind the scenes....

One cannot offer to buy her a drink nor really try and engage her in conversation too much (being mindful she is on the clock), so, how does one metamorphose this situation into a telephone number and happy moist feelings?[/QUOTE]

How about - "Hi, this is my first visit here....blah blah, where is there to go..blah blah....Wow that sounds interesting, would you like to be my guide...blah blah, what time do you finish your shift...blah blah, OK can I get your number?

Come on guys, it is not Rocket Science. The opening B/S lines work well in most places, but in the Phils they seem to work better than anywhere, mainly due to the staff being so ''keen to please'' and the "Fuckability Factor" of the LBFMs that these places employ.

Any other ideas???

Cheers, F/Fifty

[QUOTE=Blunderer]This sentence got me thinking.

Normally, it hotels when waiting for a room, you'll be at an almost deserted bar, or, in an almost deserted restaurant where the waitress will simply pop over and drop off whatever you've ordered before skipping back behind the scenes....

One cannot offer to buy her a drink nor really try and engage her in conversation too much (being mindful she is on the clock), so, how does one metamorphose this situation into a telephone number and happy moist feelings?[/QUOTE]hehehe.. in Pacific Breeze as in other hotels of AC there are 3 or 4 girls in the dining room. They will flirt with you. All are 'available' usually. If you llike one & she appears to be receptive (most are), just hand them a card with your cp number (and name?) and ask them meet you after work. That's it.
AV

Nice quiet location with 24 hour security guard. Neighbor breaking the lease so can rent short term if needed so he doesn't lose deposits.

5 min walk to Perimeter Rd, aka Don Juico. Rent is P10,000 for one year lease. Other options are available for shorter terms. It's non-furnished but options are open on that as well.

No bad dogs or roosters nearby!


Contact me here or 09195097885.

The reason I put this here is just in case a monger is thinking about moving here but not yet checking the classified section.

Bud

Hello Everyone

I will be traveling between Thailand and the Philippines. I have never visited Angels city, and I any thinking about visiting. Can anyone tell me the differences between Angels City and Bangkok/Pattaya. I am trying to best spend my time.

Thanks for any help

[QUOTE=Traveling1]Hello Everyone, I will be traveling between Thailand and the Philippines. I have never visited Angels city, and I any thinking about visiting. Can anyone tell me the differences between Angels City and Bangkok/Pattaya. I am trying to best spend my time.

Thanks for any help[/QUOTE]Hello & welcome!
Your question has been asked/answered/debated many MANY times on this thread. Please search for Pattaya and you will see many informative opinions.

Quick summary : Bangkok is a big crowded brash city roughly comparable to Manila.

Pattaya is a beach resort, AC is a town next to an ex millitary base.

Thai hookers are all business but will do anything you want (PSE). Phils hookers are shyer & act like GF (GFE) YMMV.

Prices in both cities are roughly comparable.

AC hookers usually bareback, this is not an opinion about this just the fact.

AV

Hello Again

Thanks Amavide about the advice in the search function. But I have visited and searched pattaya/bangkok many times. My question was how AC compared to Pattaya / Bangkok. I am trying to decide if i should make the time to go to AC for 2 or 3 days. Or if this time would be better spent in Thailand?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Traveling1]My question was how AC compared to Pattaya / Bangkok. [/QUOTE]
And exactly this question was discussed here many times to completion.
Do your homework first.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Traveling1]Hello Again, Thanks Amavida about the advice in the search function.[/QUOTE]Your're welcome.[QUOTE=Traveling1]But I have visited and searched pattaya/bangkok many times. My question was how AC compared to Pattaya / Bangkok.[/QUOTE]What I meant was search for Pattya in the ANGELES thread. You will find a lot of info.

Both AC & Pattya have a lot of P4P available cheap. Some guys prefer the look of Thais or Filippina's. Some guys prefer PSE over GFE. Please do a search of the ANGELES threads for Pattya or Bangkok first then come back with specific questions. There really is a LOT of posts recently discussing the pro's & cons of both places. No body can tell you which is better because each tourist has his own likes & dislikes.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=677172&postcount=1325[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=676644&postcount=1323[/url]

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=625950&postcount=839[/url]


[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=624777&postcount=828[/url]

AV

Hello

Thanks for the help!

[QUOTE=Mongering1]Nice quiet location with 24 hour security guard. Neighbor breaking the lease so can rent short term if needed so he doesn't lose deposits.

5 min walk to Perimeter Rd, aka Don Juico. Rent is P10,000 for one year lease. Other options are available for shorter terms. It's non-furnished but options are open on that as well.

No bad dogs or roosters nearby!


Contact me here or 09195097885.

The reason I put this here is just in case a monger is thinking about moving here but not yet checking the classified section.

Bud[/QUOTE]Huh? No roosters? Are you sure its in the PI?

I kid, I kid.

[QUOTE=Blunderer]One cannot offer to buy her a drink nor really try and engage her in conversation too much (being mindful she is on the clock), so, how does one metamorphose this situation into a telephone number and happy moist feelings?[/QUOTE]
If you are talking about waitresses in the bars of Angeles of course you can buy them a drink. You can also bf them but this is too easy. Currently have a waitress cumming by every day for a get together since they are more genuine then the dancers, some of which are all show and no go!

[QUOTE=Amavida]Exactly!

If your card is rejected try a card issued by another bank.

I have two Aussie issued cards, both expensive to use & frequently rejected.

The Aussie banks are shit scared of fraud in Asia.

I have a citibank issued card which works everywhere, anytime.

AV[/QUOTE]I've lived here three years and except for Philippine airlines, I have never had any luck using a credit card online to by airline tickets. I usually end up doing it over the phone or sending someone to the local sales office. But I make it an absolute rule to only pay credit card. I have been burned twice by paying cash, so NEVER AGAIN. The first was a travel agency on Roxas blvd. THey sold me a ticket for which the return date was sold out. Even the airline didn't know how they did it. They trip had to be extented by two weeks just to get a ticket home. Fortunately, I had bought the ticked for someone else, but she was quite pissed off to say the least. The other time I bought the ticket directly fom the Asian Spirit sales office. Would you believe, the exact same thing happened! I was able to get on a flight the next day, but only after paying A REBOOKING FEE. What kind of fucking airline overbooks a flight and then makes you pay an extra fee just to get on the next flight. I would have charged back both of those tickets if I had used a credit card. I've learned my lesson. If I can't use my credit card, I won't buy the ticket.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]If you are talking about waitresses in the bars of Angeles of course you can buy them a drink. You can also bf them but this is too easy. Currently have a waitress cumming by every day for a get together since they are more genuine then the dancers, some of which are all show and no go![/QUOTE]

I believe they are talking about the waitresses in the hotels, as for the waitresses in the bars you will find many of them are ex-dancers, one thing I like about waitresses in the bars is when they decide to get up and dance, they really do dance not just move there hips from side to side. They dance because they want to not because they have to.

Not clear on current pricing. I hear there is little difference in price between ST and LT in large bars on Fields, which says to me they charge LT prices for ST. What is the breakdown, lets say, in one of these smaller places on Santos for instance? Haven't done AC in almost 3 years.

[QUOTE=Tulip777]Not clear on current pricing. I hear there is little difference in price between ST and LT in large bars on Fields, which says to me they charge LT prices for ST. What is the breakdown, lets say, in one of these smaller places on Santos for instance? Haven't done AC in almost 3 years.[/QUOTE]

Well, LT is 1100-1300 depending on the bar. ST is usually 500-900 depending on bar and the girl.

With the new big glitzy clubs opened up (Atlantis, Tropix) the spotlight girls are EXPENSIVE in comparision.

As far as LT prices for ST..well, its more like the girl agrees to LT in the bar, then 1am comes around and her cousin is sick...she has to go to Manila...her baby is sick...whatever, and she bails. This is becoming a little more common. This is one reason I dont like pay first, but..that is AC.

[QUOTE=Blackangst]Well, LT is 1100-1300 depending on the bar. ST is usually 500-900 depending on bar and the girl.

With the new big glitzy clubs opened up (Atlantis, Tropix) the spotlight girls are EXPENSIVE in comparision.

As far as LT prices for ST..well, its more like the girl agrees to LT in the bar, then 1am comes around and her cousin is sick...she has to go to Manila...her baby is sick...whatever, and she bails. This is becoming a little more common. This is one reason I dont like pay first, but..that is AC.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Blackangst. I guess ST is the way to go.

It's a matter of preference...I prefere the GFE, so I pay LT. I found it's rare to get a runner, but maybe it's my natural charm that keeps 'em in my grip all the night...

Or maybe it's the handcuffs...who knows?

X

[QUOTE=Tulip777]Thanks Blackangst. I guess ST is the way to go.[/QUOTE]

My experience with waitresses has also been great, although some ISG members have been very critical of them in the past. Yes, some may be hiding some flab and/or stretch marks under their waitress uniform, but others are simply too shy, or maybe too proud, to get up on stage in a bikini. Hmmm, or maybe trying to preserve a "good girl" image in order to hook some guy who doesn't realize that waitresses get barfined too.

I've also seen waitresses metamorphose into very hot go go girls....

X



[QUOTE=Mattrick]If you are talking about waitresses in the bars of Angeles of course you can buy them a drink. You can also bf them but this is too easy. Currently have a waitress cumming by every day for a get together since they are more genuine then the dancers, some of which are all show and no go![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]
I've also seen waitresses metamorphose into very hot go go girls....

X[/QUOTE]

My one experience is just opposite. On a trip to AC I met the cutest little Pinay who was serving beer in a nudie bar. Tried then to BF her but she claimed "cherry girl". About a year later she as stripping naked. BF'ed her and what a waste. She just laid there. Pussy was tight and wet but absolutely no motion in the ocean. Sent her home after one go and found another girl for dinner and bar hopping who stayed all night and performed excellently.

Slim

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[QUOTE=Traveling1]Hello Again

Thanks Amavide about the advice in the search function. But I have visited and searched pattaya/bangkok many times. My question was how AC compared to Pattaya / Bangkok. I am trying to decide if i should make the time to go to AC for 2 or 3 days. Or if this time would be better spent in Thailand?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

AC is a miniature of Pattaya. A tenth of it or even smaller with no beaches.
Just a road actually. I was there for a few days mid April. I do not thing I will ever go back there again. IMHO Pattaya is way much better with hundreds more options.

There is nothing to do during the day except a dirty swimming pool (America hotel) or going to a new shopping mall on the other side of the road. Already forgot its name. See also

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727523&postcount=2023[/url]

My two cents

[QUOTE=El Greco]AC is a miniature of Pattaya. A tenth of it or even smaller with no beaches.
Just a road actually. I was there for a few days mid April. I do not thing I will ever go back there again. IMHO Pattaya is way much better with hundreds more options.

There is nothing to do during the day except a dirty swimming pool (America hotel) or going to a new shopping mall on the other side of the road. Already forgot its name. See also

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727523&postcount=2023[/url]

My two cents[/QUOTE]

Thats whats awesome about this board and this hobby-theres something for everyone :) My personal taste is the opposite-I'll probably never go back to Pattaya or Bangkok again because the women, although they are nice to look at, speak shitty english, and perform with the personality of a latex doll. *Shrug* For some people its OK though :)

AC does have stuff to do, although for alot of it you have to travel an hour or so, but its not meant to be a anything but adult Disneyland. If you want stuff to do monger in Manila or Cebu. Oh and as far as beaches go? The beaches of Cagayan de Oro or Boracay beat Thailand hands down :D

[QUOTE=Blackangst]Thats whats awesome about this board and this hobby-theres something for everyone :) My personal taste is the opposite-I'll probably never go back to Pattaya or Bangkok again because the women, although they are nice to look at, speak shitty english, and perform with the personality of a latex doll. *Shrug* For some people its OK though :)

AC does have stuff to do, although for alot of it you have to travel an hour or so, but its not meant to be a anything but adult Disneyland. If you want stuff to do monger in Manila or Cebu. Oh and as far as beaches go? The beaches of Cagayan de Oro or Boracay beat Thailand hands down :D[/QUOTE]

Speaking our minds is free and IMHO a must in this forum.

I agree that we disagree. No hard feelings.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=El Greco]Speaking our minds is free and IMHO a must in this forum.

I agree that we disagree. No hard feelings.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]

yessir =) Id buy ya a beer were we in the same country and same bar hehe

/salute my friend

[QUOTE=Blackangst]I'll probably never go back to Pattaya or Bangkok again because the women, although they are nice to look at, speak shitty english, and perform with the personality of a latex doll.[/QUOTE]Agree.
Having been to Thailand the last time in 2004 I think. Hardly remember.
Since then I've used up two passports, full with chops from Indonesia, Philippines and Singapore.
Everyone have fun! :D
Cheers!

I've never been to Pattaya, but I do disagree with some of the opinions about AC.

1) To say there's nothing to do during the day isn't quite accurate. It's more accurate to say there's nothing ELSE to do during the day, heh. But quite a few bars open early (noon, and one at 10 am even). Not to mention the 24 hour ones. I rarely find myself bored during the day.

2) Some hotels and pools are better than others. ABC, Orchid Inn, Pacific Breeze, and Wild Orchid all have nice pools. The Wild Orchid is possibly the best pool of the four but I think their rooms are overpriced.

3) The food is almost certainly better in Pattaya, I'm guessing. AC food is lacking, to say the least.

For 2 or 3 days, you can surely stay busy and have fun in AC. If you have something more like a month, I can see where it would get old. My longest trip has been 10 days so it hasn't been a problem for me.

Also, if you only have a few days in AC, you're going to want to interview the girls thoroughly before you take them out. One bad performer could ruin half your trip. Because of this, I'd stay away from the mega bars on a short trip.

[QUOTE=Traveling1]Hello Again
But I have visited and searched pattaya/bangkok many times. My question was how AC compared to Pattaya / Bangkok. I am trying to decide if i should make the time to go to AC for 2 or 3 days. Or if this time would be better spent in Thailand?
[/QUOTE]

I'm not going to bother comparing as they are real different. If you are going to to be in Thailand and you are only willing to sacrifice 2 or 3 days to see Angeles or some other part in the PI, I recommend you pass unless the airfare is no big deal for you. You used to be able to get pretty cheap fares going back and forth, but I think those days are over for now with oil at it's price now. It's kind of a hassle to go through all the traveling for only a couple of days.

[QUOTE=Key Master] You used to be able to get pretty cheap fares going back and forth, but I think those days are over for now with oil at it's price now. [/QUOTE]
Yeah, the ticket is still cheap, but when it comes to fuel surcharge.....
Oooouuch! :(

Fellow mongerers...
Since two days now in AC, whaaa, I love the low season. :D
What a fine selection available. So many girls but so little time. :(

Some bars in Fields charge now 95ps for a SMB, but I forgot which bars.
One is KOD if I remember correctly, I think others will follow soon.
Anyway, who cares.

IMHO Fields Ave is changing more into an entertainment area or party zone, almost every day somewhere some Photoshooting,
Lingerie show, body painting or whatsoever.
5 yrs ago there was nothing like this.
And if you see how many guys nowadays throw these pingpong balls.
One Asian guy was shooting folded 20ps bills with a rubber band on stage and so on....
Amazing.

Life is good, di ba.
Cheers! :D

Since I haven't found any information like this in this forum before, I thought it may be helpful to first timers!

1. there is a bus shuttle service between Manila-Angeles-Subic (and vv)
->Southern Cross Bus Shuttle

I tried it myself (from AC to MNL) and it was on time, reliable and comfortable at 550 Pesos!

See the jpgs

2. please also find maps of AC entertainment area.

See the pdfs

Cheers

Dars Veider

Been reading this board for about a year now but have never gotten around to posting. I've finally come upon an opprotunity to visit AC but have some logistical concerns. My current situation (Iraq) and my employer (Tito Sam) aren't big fans of exact dates when it comes to R&R. All I know is I will be taking a "break" for 18 days sometime late June/early July. I'm pretty sure they'll fly me to the PI but just in case I'm planning on flying out of San Francisco if they fail. I need to arrange transport to AC from Manila and I think I've got that covered via a private car and driver. My biggest concern is hotel. I can't make reservations because I don't have exact dates. Is it hard to get a room for a couple of weeks this time of year. I've been looking at Wild Orchid, Orchid Inn, Pacific Breeze, etc. All the usuals. What do you guys think is my best bet? Are there other options. I'll have more questions in the coming weeks. I want to land on the ground ready to rock and roll. Any of you all going to be in AC around the same time? Any other advice or info you guys may have would be greatly appreciated!

[QUOTE=Dars Veider]Since I haven't found any information like this in this forum before, I thought it may be helpful to first timers!

1. there is a bus shuttle service between Manila-Angeles-Subic (and vv)
->Southern Cross Bus Shuttle

I tried it myself (from AC to MNL) and it was on time, reliable and comfortable at 550 Pesos!

See the jpgs

2. please also find maps of AC entertainment area.

See the pdfs

Cheers

Dars Veider[/QUOTE]

DV...Does that service begin and terminate at the Airport? Or is this town-town service?

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4]DV...Does that service begin and terminate at the Airport? Or is this town-town service?[/QUOTE]

As Dars says ''see the jpgs''

The picture shows a board which on the left hand side states exact Departure and Arrival points and times!!!!

Ok back to sleep.

F/Fifty

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]As Dars says ''see the jpgs''

The picture shows a board which on the left hand side states exact Departure and Arrival points and times!!!!

Ok back to sleep.

F/Fifty[/QUOTE]

I did look at the jpegs, just overlooked what the location picture really showed. Not as convenient upon arrival into MNL, but an excellent option as I usually spend 2 nights in Manila before my return to the states. Thanks.................

Sure looks like it will simplify me getting to Subic from AC. I return to AC in October and want to check out Subic as I have never been there.

LOL expat, yes life is gud...

I agree with AC, it becomes more and more a party place and while Im a chosy guy I have my regular and seldem barfine new gurls, except if they really like me and if I like them, which aint allways be the case.

So, if I go barhop with my regular I chose those bars who have some shows and entertainment.

Yes some guys, mostly koreans think its a great deal to pay 3k plus tip and burn money or throw ping pong balls...Its fine with me.. I rather spend my money on good food, drinks and on shopping, specially for me :D

For some LB, life is a bxxtch, for me its LG :D

Happy party

Blink

[QUOTE=Dars Veider]

2. please also find maps of AC entertainment area.

See the pdfs

[/QUOTE]

Dars, thanks for contributing the maps. How up-to-date are they?

[QUOTE=Maple Red]Dars, thanks for contributing the maps. How up-to-date are they?[/QUOTE]Since I got the map on my last trip to AC (May 2008). They should be up-to-date!

[QUOTE=Mildoted]Been reading this board for about a year now but have never gotten around to posting. I've finally come upon an opprotunity to visit AC but have some logistical concerns. My current situation (Iraq) and my employer (Tito Sam) aren't big fans of exact dates when it comes to R&R. All I know is I will be taking a "break" for 18 days sometime late June/early July. I'm pretty sure they'll fly me to the PI but just in case I'm planning on flying out of San Francisco if they fail. I need to arrange transport to AC from Manila and I think I've got that covered via a private car and driver. My biggest concern is hotel. I can't make reservations because I don't have exact dates. Is it hard to get a room for a couple of weeks this time of year. I've been looking at Wild Orchid, Orchid Inn, Pacific Breeze, etc. All the usuals. What do you guys think is my best bet? Are there other options. I'll have more questions in the coming weeks. I want to land on the ground ready to rock and roll. Any of you all going to be in AC around the same time? Any other advice or info you guys may have would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]

I wouldn't worry about getting a hotel or transportation. All can be taken care of the day you arrive if you must. Don't get hung up on certain hotels. There are plenty of decent to good ones around. You are there for the entertainment mostly. Just go and have fun. I believe it's rainy season during that time, so getting something won't be difficult last minute. Pacific Breeze and Central Park, the same owners reply within 24 hours and can arrange a pickup for you. But like I said, don't get hung up on the hotels. It's not that big of a deal.

[QUOTE=Dars Veider]Since I haven't found any information like this in this forum before, I thought it may be helpful to first timers!

1. there is a bus shuttle service between Manila-Angeles-Subic (and vv)
->Southern Cross Bus Shuttle

I tried it myself (from AC to MNL) and it was on time, reliable and comfortable at 550 Pesos!

See the jpgs

2. please also find maps of AC entertainment area.

See the pdfs

Cheers

Dars Veider[/QUOTE]

There is a shuttle that leaves the Sunset Gardens Hotel everyday at around 10am goes to By The Sea and returns at around noon. Double check but I think that is correct. I think it is 500 pesos per.

[QUOTE=Mildoted]Been reading this board for about a year now but have never gotten around to posting. I've finally come upon an opprotunity to visit AC but have some logistical concerns. My current situation (Iraq) and my employer (Tito Sam) aren't big fans of exact dates when it comes to R&R. All I know is I will be taking a "break" for 18 days sometime late June/early July. I'm pretty sure they'll fly me to the PI but just in case I'm planning on flying out of San Francisco if they fail. I need to arrange transport to AC from Manila and I think I've got that covered via a private car and driver. My biggest concern is hotel. I can't make reservations because I don't have exact dates. Is it hard to get a room for a couple of weeks this time of year. I've been looking at Wild Orchid, Orchid Inn, Pacific Breeze, etc. All the usuals. What do you guys think is my best bet? Are there other options. I'll have more questions in the coming weeks. I want to land on the ground ready to rock and roll. Any of you all going to be in AC around the same time? Any other advice or info you guys may have would be greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]Asiana Airlines flies directly from Incheon to Clark Air Field in Angeles, and flys out of San Francisco direct to Incheon. If you have to fly from SF you may want to look for this routing.

1) I'll probably be there for a week in early July.

2) You could use the Margarita Station website to book your hotel. You list your top few options and they'll do the legwork for you getting it booked. If the notice is VERY short you might have to move once or twice during your stay. Margarita Station also has the cheapest airport pickup rate, and will show up with a cooler full of your favorite beverage.
[QUOTE=Mildoted]My current situation (Iraq) and my employer (Tito Sam) aren't big fans of exact dates when it comes to R&R. All I know is I will be taking a "break" for 18 days sometime late June/early July. I'm pretty sure they'll fly me to the PI but just in case I'm planning on flying out of San Francisco if they fail. I need to arrange transport to AC from Manila and I think I've got that covered via a private car and driver. My biggest concern is hotel. I can't make reservations because I don't have exact dates...Are there other options.[/QUOTE]

Okay, so Margarita Station's info and services are good to go? I've been reading through their website and also Jimmy Reginas, but haven't heard much talk about if they are reporting good info or if the folks running the sites are good peoples.

Keymaster already gave you great advice. If you're coming out of Iraq...I can't help wondering why you're getting the willies about booking a hotel in AC.

Margarita Stn has been in business a while, and I assume they make money from the bookings. It's not my favorite place to eat, nor hang out, but I think you should give them the benefit of the doubt. Mr. Woodrow has suggested it, and it sounds like he's used the service.

I can't help but think it's a bit disrespectful to post a message doubting the validity of the recommended site -- much less failing to thank the poster.

I have no idea about "jimmy regina". Who dat?

If you prefer a pool, as I do, you can start with Hotel America on the low end, and of course most of the more expensive places have a pool.

Have a good trip.

X


[QUOTE=Mildoted]Okay, so Margarita Station's info and services are good to go? I've been reading through their website and also Jimmy Reginas, but haven't heard much talk about if they are reporting good info or if the folks running the sites are good peoples.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]I have no idea about "jimmy regina". Who dat?....X[/QUOTE]


Jimmy Regina is a young (same age) Caucasian male via his infamous website is how I first heard about AC. Google his name the site will appear magically before your eyes. He runs a blog and forum. Every so often he blows through AC like a hurricane and tells the world all about it. Generally cool guy also.

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Hey Guys , Does anyone have any info on Flights between Guam and AC?[/QUOTE]

Google is your friend...

[url]http://www.guamportal.com/guam_flight.html[/url]

"Northwest Airlines one of the major US operators offering Guam flights and US passengers can connect to airlines in a number of other countries. Philippine Airlines, China Airlines, All Nippon Airways, Japan Airlines and Korean Air all operate frequent Guam flights. This combination of airlines connect Guam with Hawaii, Micronesia, Hong Kong, Australia and other international ports."


[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Also, can anyone update us on what other flights there are to and from Clark anywhere in PI or SEA ? Thanks HUSKY[/QUOTE]

Here's a start : Cebu Pacific

[url]http://www.cebupacificair.com/index.html[/url]

Cheers
AV

It's amazing what huge flight packages are being arranged just to get laid.

Maybe a domestic flight in the US,
then SF--> Guam
Guam--> MNL
then somehow to AC
bumbum bumbum...... :D
and all the hassle again going back.

Always wondering, if all counted together including these high fuel surcharges nowadays, what is the price per pop?

But I can understand, because just being back from AC.... :D
Having every night such a firm 19y/o body and good GFE is simply priceless.

Now 50 days and counting till next trip.... :p
But I don't wanna complain, trips to JKT and Phuket are within these 50 days,
and KL isn't bad either.

Cheers!

Gents,

I was checking out some music today and came across a goofy song that has nothing to do with Angeles City but I liked the melody and general idea behind the song in it's regard to women.

So I edited the song a bit and added pictures from my recent trip.

Hope my monger brothers enjoy the video on You Tube.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrRSVqoFfXw[/url]

In the meantime I'm off back to Colombia again tomorrow.

Cheers,

Cubanut

[QUOTE=Ekspat]It's amazing what huge flight packages are being arranged just to get laid.

Maybe a domestic flight in the US,
then SF--> Guam
Guam--> MNL
then somehow to AC
bumbum bumbum...... :D
and all the hassle again going back.
[/QUOTE]

Hey Eks - you think that is amazing, check out my flight itinary of a couple of years ago when returning to Philippines from UK.

1. Cheap charter from Luton to Istanbul.
2. Overland from Istanbul to Cairo through Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Israel & Egypt.
3. Air Arabia from Luxor to Sharjah UAE.
4. Air Arabia from Sharjah to Cochin, India.
5. Overland from Cochin to Bangalore.
6. Jetstar from Bangalore to Singapore.
7. Overland from Singapore to KL.
8. AirAsia from KL to Clark.

Whole thing took me better part of 2 months. Am I mad. Quite probably but it was also a trip of a lifetime but by hell was I ready for that SM and LBFM when I hit Angeles :D GH

true! don't go to ac. you might be raped by wild transvestites on drugs.

Yea, trip of a lifetime? Why?

Let us know when your book comes out.

X

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hey Eks - you think that is amazing, check out my flight itinary of a couple of years ago when returning to Philippines from UK.

1. Cheap charter from Luton to Istanbul.
2. Overland from Istanbul to Cairo through Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Israel & Egypt.
3. Air Arabia from Luxor to Sharjah UAE.
4. Air Arabia from Sharjah to Cochin, India.
5. Overland from Cochin to Bangalore.
6. Jetstar from Bangalore to Singapore.
7. Overland from Singapore to KL.
8. AirAsia from KL to Clark.

Whole thing took me better part of 2 months. Am I mad. Quite probably but it was also a trip of a lifetime but by hell was I ready for that SM and LBFM when I hit Angeles :D GH[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]Yea, trip of a lifetime? Why?

Let us know when your book comes out.

X[/QUOTE]

Because I could kiddo.

Could have written a book about the experience, particularly when I hired a car in Jordan and got lost one evening on the Palestinian West Bank. Thought I was an ex-Gamahucher. Should have known better - the Palestinians are one of the most hospitable people on earth and took me in, providing food, a bed for the night and an escort the following morning to put me on the right road.

Also got in a spot of Mongering along the way :D GH

Your passage sounds very interesting, especially the mongering in the West Bank. I know Jordan and Syria offer good mongering opportunities, including Iraq war refugees turning to the oldest profession, but the Palestinians? IMHO you have balls to mess with girls of a culture known for honor killing of female relatives who flirt with infidels.

You mention how hospitable they were, and I have heard that from others as well (even from American Jews). It really is counterintuitive as other Arabs, particularly from the Gulf, describe them as untouchables who they only support because the Quran REQUIRES solidarity with Muslim brothers in conflict with infidels.

Be fascinated to read a post (maybe not a "book" as Xman suggested) about your trip.

The only domestic flights (of which I am aware) is the MWF morning flight to Cebu, and the SEAir daily flight to Caticlan (Boracay).

Tiger goes to SIN and Air Asia to both KL and KK (Kota Kinabalu). Asiana to ICN (Seoul, Korea) and somebody flies to Macau and BKK now I believe. There has been lots of buzz about Thai Airways flying to CRK from BKK but still no conformation of that.

The DMIA website will list all connections I think.

Gamma, the word "escort" is a term of art on this board. Kindly employ a synonmym. Grin Grin

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Hey Eks - you think that is amazing, check out my flight itinary of a couple of years ago when returning to Philippines from UK.

1. Cheap charter from Luton to Istanbul.
2. Overland from Istanbul to Cairo through Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Israel & Egypt.
3. Air Arabia from Luxor to Sharjah UAE.
4. Air Arabia from Sharjah to Cochin, India.
5. Overland from Cochin to Bangalore.
6. Jetstar from Bangalore to Singapore.
7. Overland from Singapore to KL.
8. AirAsia from KL to Clark.

Whole thing took me better part of 2 months. Am I mad. Quite probably but it was also a trip of a lifetime but by hell was I ready for that SM and LBFM when I hit Angeles :D GH[/QUOTE]Awesome adventuring dude! :) I bow to my sensei! :D
AV

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]Your passage sounds very interesting, especially the mongering in the West Bank. I know Jordan and Syria offer good mongering opportunities, including Iraq war refugees turning to the oldest profession, but the Palestinians? IMHO you have balls to mess with girls of a culture known for honor killing of female relatives who flirt with infidels.

You mention how hospitable they were, and I have heard that from others as well (even from American Jews). It really is counterintuitive as other Arabs, particularly from the Gulf, describe them as untouchables who they only support because the Quran REQUIRES solidarity with Muslim brothers in conflict with infidels.

Be fascinated to read a post (maybe not a "book" as Xman suggested) about your trip.[/QUOTE]

No Horny, I did no mongering on the west bank - purely in traveller mode then. As you mentioned those lads mean business if you mess with their sisters. You don't evn see the young pubescent female members of a family when you enter a Arab home, only the kids and grannies. They strive to keep temptation out of your way, which is OK by me as I am quite attached to my nuts.

I did my mongering in Aquaba in Jordan and Eilat, its nearby twin in Israel. Was tempted in Damascus but the quality was poor so didn't weaken. Funnily enough I was offered a Bedouin girl in Petra of all places, but she looked none too clean, so again I declined. But there are definate mongering opportunities in the middle east and I would love to give more info but this being the AC board, I don't want to rouse the ire of the 'Jobsworthy's':) GH

Anybody know Lorna who waitresses at Orchid Inn? Does she "date"? Trying to find out about her cuz she's hitting me on FH. Any info would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Some bars in Fields charge now 95ps for a SMB, but I forgot which bars.
One is KOD if I remember correctly, I think others will follow soon.[/QUOTE]
If you are a member of certain organizations and/or boards, you are eligible for up to 20% off your drinks depending on the bar.

Anybody ever been at the "Clark Eagle Gun Range" or the "Mountain Clark firing range" in AC?

Is it worth it? What kind of guns can you rent?

I own a few guns (AR15 rifle, Rem700 Police, etc.), have been in the German Army and also shoot with the US Army several times. So I will not go there if they only have some. 22 lfR guns. Hope you understand what I mean.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Germanfritze]Anybody ever been at the "Clark Eagle Gun Range" or the "Mountain Clark firing range" in AC?

Is it worth it? What kind of guns can you rent? ...................[/QUOTE]

Sorry no info, this forum contains info regarding hunting and the use of guns of a different type ;)

Anybody know where I can buy some decent camo gear for an upcoming trip to Phils, I have this fantasy..................:)

Cheers, F/Fifty

[QUOTE=Fifty Fifty]

Anybody know where I can buy some decent camo gear for an upcoming trip to Phils, I have this fantasy..................:)

Cheers, F/Fifty[/QUOTE]

Jackboots ..ahh ...jackboots ... bet my fantasy's would leave yours at the post Fifty ... ;) Now where can you get jackboots? .. Shoemart ??

GH :D

P.S Don't mention the war!!!

[QUOTE=Mattrick]If you are a member of certain organizations and/or boards, you are eligible for up to 20% off your drinks depending on the bar.[/QUOTE]
To be honest, I'm not too keen on being any member of any organization in AC.
Can pay full price of my drinks, no big deal.
How about July, mate? I'll be there in 3rd week.
Cheers!

i have visited ac once back in sept 2007. lots of pussy at a low price. place was a real dump, safety a big issue.

presently, i have been getting reports from friends who stay in ac that safety has become a serious issue this time a year. low season, fewer tourists = desperate locals in need of cash $$$

can anybody confirm that locals are picking fights with tourists to fleece them out of money? i also hear about ****d girls and the police setting up tourists.

[quote=ace of spades]i have visited ac once back in sept 2007. lots of pussy at a low price. place was a real dump, safety a big issue.

presently, i have been getting reports from friends who stay in ac that safety has become a serious issue this time a year. low season, fewer tourists = desperate locals in need of cash $$$

can anybody confirm that locals are picking fights with tourists to fleece them out of money? i also hear about ****d girls and the police setting up tourists.[/quote]

imho its just the usual blah blah blah. there was a foreigner murdered in his hotel room (70 years old or something) last month (if i find the link again i'll post it), but other than that...its fine if you stay within the city. it really isnt that much more dangerous in off season either. the read the forum and learn how shit operates and you'll be fine :)

as far as **** girls, meh. its happens from time to time, but mostly the set-ups youre talking about happen in manila like at the malls and such, not at the bars. the bars are pretty good about keeping 18+ girls only. again,l every once in awhile you hear of a bar getting raided and ua girls found, but it's really not that common.

[quote=ace of spades]i have visited ac once back in sept 2007. lots of pussy at a low price. place was a real dump, safety a big issue.

presently, i have been getting reports from friends who stay in ac that safety has become a serious issue this time a year. low season, fewer tourists = desperate locals in need of cash $$$

can anybody confirm that locals are picking fights with tourists to fleece them out of money? i also hear about ****d girls and the police setting up tourists.[/quote]like blackangst said, most of that is just talk. stay in the main areas, avoid freelancers and pay the bar fines and you'll be fine. the cops, while there are some crooked ones, do a pretty decent job imo of keep it on the up and up because they know that if the places gets a bad rep, the number of tourists decreases even more meaning that they lose even more money there which in turn means less cops need to be employed. in 17 years of going to ac for months on end during this time of the year i have never encountered a problem.

also like he stated, on the few occasions were a raid is done and an ua girl found you will know it because the bar is usually shut down for around a week.

[quote=ace of spades]i have visited ac once back in sept 2007. lots of pussy at a low price. place was a real dump, safety a big issue.

presently, i have been getting reports from friends who stay in ac that safety has become a serious issue this time a year. low season, fewer tourists = desperate locals in need of cash $$$

can anybody confirm that locals are picking fights with tourists to fleece them out of money? i also hear about ****d girls and the police setting up tourists.[/quote]
everything completely true and..... actually it's even worse.
better all stay away from ac, so more choice for me....
:d :d :d

[QUOTE=Blackangst]There WAS a foreigner murdered in his hotel room (70 years old or something) last month (if I find the link again I'll post it)[/QUOTE]
That was in a subdivision and not in a hotel. His next-door neighbors did it. Pretty brutal.

Anyone worried should just stay on the main drag. Stay at one of the main Fields hotels and you never have to go more than 100-200 meters (and sometimes significantly less). Or stay at Clarkton and have all your fun in Mirrors, Lost In Asia, Roadie's etc. Take a trike to Fields from there if you like.

Yes, there is the potential for violence, but I doubt per-capita it's any worse than a western city. The standard advice applies--use the in-room safe, only carry as much cash as you need. If you're a big spender, plan to go to your hotel room to refill a few times.

Or just stay away, Ekspat and I will miss you though. :D

[quote=ace of spades]i have visited ac once back in sept 2007. lots of pussy at a low price. place was a real dump, safety a big issue.

presently, i have been getting reports from friends who stay in ac that safety has become a serious issue this time a year. low season, fewer tourists = desperate locals in need of cash $$$

can anybody confirm that locals are picking fights with tourists to fleece them out of money? i also hear about ****d girls and the police setting up tourists.[/quote]

stay away you may be fucked to death :) truly gruesome i barely escaped balls saturated with the juices of third world pussies truly horrific.

on a real note man its cool only thing i will tell you don’t make yourself a target and watch out for those street vendors they will drive you nuts.

Well, just read the first two pages of reports about AC, and found ZERO info about mongering! Plenty of crap about safety though, and lots of stuff about the Middle East. Hmm. OK, I'll do some. AC is NOT dangerous, unless you are stupid enough to go back to a stranger's place and play cards, or something like that (in which case you get what you deserve). Lots of bars, thousands of girls, 90-something percent ordinary with babies etc. , but shop around, stay sober and you will find a good looking one. Lots of cuties who won't go ('cherry girls'). AC is renowned for this. Prices have risen steadily, but still cheap at around P1200 barfine, which is all-inclusive, although tips are optional. Increasing numbers of girls won't stay all night these days, especially the best lookers from the busiest bars such as Blue Nile. AC is still a craphole in general, although there is now a nice big mall (SM mall). Lots of better (and quite expensive) hotels have opened up. I recommend Pacific Breeze at around US$60 per night, nice pool etc.come on guys, lets have useful info, not sad-assed rumours and private conversations.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]That was in a subdivision and not in a hotel. His next-door neighbors did it. Pretty brutal.

Anyone worried should just stay on the main drag. Stay at one of the main Fields hotels and you never have to go more than 100-200 meters (and sometimes significantly less). Or stay at Clarkton and have all your fun in Mirrors, Lost In Asia, Roadie's etc. Take a trike to Fields from there if you like.

Yes, there is the potential for violence, but I doubt per-capita it's any worse than a western city. The standard advice applies--use the in-room safe, only carry as much cash as you need. If you're a big spender, plan to go to your hotel room to refill a few times.

Or just stay away, Ekspat and I will miss you though. :D[/QUOTE]

Bah youre right I just looked at it again...was in Villasol subdivision in Anunas.

Thanks for the correction :)

I just got some info about dollhouse getting raided and the NBI taking all the girls wearing body paint. Does anybody know anything about it?

Several postings mention a concern about safety in AC. I have been to AC 24 times since Jan 2004. I stayed in the Orchid Inn and now the Wild Orchid since it opened.

I never had an unsafe incident except maybe a few ladies wanting to go bareback. :)

I don't go in less traveled areas. I don't go with street girls. I don't get drunk and wander back streets or start talking trash to anyone who will listen. I don't play card games.

I do visit all the clubs to review the talent. I do just say "No thanks" to vendors. I do pay bar tabs after every round. I do barfine everyday. I do use condoms. I do treat the girls well. I do tip for performance. And....

I do have my ticket for August.

Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm heading to AC in early July to do some mongering. I've got seven nights, so I'm looking to enjoy a variety of ladies.

Question: Part of me is not too keen on having to find a new good-looking girl every single morning. Methinks if I find a nice one (or two) I may want her companionship for a few evenings at a time. Can arrangements like this be made? At any place in particular?

Joe

[QUOTE=Yiddo]Well, just read the first two pages of reports about AC, and found ZERO info about mongering! [/QUOTE]
Well, just read your post and found ZERO [u]new[/u] information.
All you have written is well known and has been posted much earlier.
So, come on Yiddo, any useful info, maybe from you? ;)

Enjoy! Cheers! :D

[QUOTE=Joe Olangar]Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm heading to AC in early July to do some mongering. I've got seven nights, so I'm looking to enjoy a variety of ladies.

Question: Part of me is not too keen on having to find a new good-looking girl every single morning. Methinks if I find a nice one (or two) I may want her companionship for a few evenings at a time. Can arrangements like this be made? At any place in particular?

Joe[/QUOTE]Well if you tell a bargirl out of any club you want to bar fine her for two or three days 9 times out of ten they will do back filps. Yes, at any club!

Seems to be this issue all of a sudden about safety in AC. From a guy thats been there many times in last few years and just got back from AC last month I can assure you that it has not changed from the first time there.

Whether it be AC, Manila, Cebu, New York, Los Angeles or any other place that has high crime rate. Don't MAKE YOURSELF A TARGET. Be alert, don't look and sound stupid, leave the jewelry at home and obviously do not go in area where tourist do not go. Golden rule. If it looks bad, sounds bad, and just looks bad. Well duh. Its problably bad and get out of there.

Hi guys,

I'll be in Angeles City late next week, staying for a week at Pacific Breeze. This is my 2nd trip but the 1st was in 1984 during the Marcos era and Clark Air Base. So I'm totally a newbie. I've been reading practically all the reports on the place posted here and in some other forums as well. Very informative.

But I have some questions:

1. Apparently money changers are widely available. I'm coming from Singapore via Clark. Can I readily change Singapore $ in Angeles or should I bring US$ instead?

2. Are credit cards widely accepted? In the hotels at least?

3. How far is it to Baguio from Angeles. Are there any regular bus services?

Kindly oblige. Thanks

[QUOTE=Konaman]Hi guys,

I'll be in Angeles City late next week, staying for a week at Pacific Breeze. This is my 2nd trip but the 1st was in 1984 during the Marcos era and Clark Air Base. So I'm totally a newbie. I've been reading practically all the reports on the place posted here and in some other forums as well. Very informative.

But I have some questions:

1. Apparently money changers are widely available. I'm coming from Singapore via Clark. Can I readily change Singapore $ in Angeles or should I bring US$ instead?

2. Are credit cards widely accepted? In the hotels at least?

3. How far is it to Baguio from Angeles. Are there any regular bus services?

Kindly oblige. Thanks[/QUOTE]

CC are accepted by all hotels and some of the larger bars but be careful of the CC supplement charge which can be as high as 4%.

Anyone can clarify where to find the cheaper indian Viagra in AC?

I see the touts in the streets and they ask a lot and I would not trust their stuff even if it was free.

I think I am going to need it.

yes you can change sing dollars no problem at the moneychangers on fields.

yes there is regular bus service to baguio (about 3.4 hours). do not go to baguio for action! other method of getting to baguio is asian spirit which flies mwf mornings from manila (not from clark though). quicker to take bus.

be prepared not to recognize balibago at all.

one huge change is prevalence of scams involving **** freelancers. beware. tolerance of any kind of drugs in angeles (other than the freelance viagra salesmen lol) is gone.

another huge change is that the koreans have descended on ac in huge numbers. things will shock you just how different they are.

enjoy yourself.

If you were in AC in 1984 obviously there has been a significant down sizing since then but the fun is still there. Use your credit cards if you must only at the hotels. Preferably I use cash where you not have to worry about your credit card information ever taken.

Money changers are everywhere, WATCH OUT! Not all are respectable. Counterfit money is every where here. Seedy money changers have been known to slip in a few conterfiets while getting your money back. Norma's in AC in there is problably the most wildly used and they are the respectable money changer establishment in Angeles. When you get to AC ask where Norma's is. Everyone knows.

Personally I would bring only american 100 bills and no smaller denomination.

Smaller bills usually get smaller exchange rate. Make sure also the 100 bills are the newer version as well and in good shape. May sound crazy but make sure corners are not cut as well

Baguio is about 1 hour plane ride away. I have friend who from usa that knows Baguio well and I beleave he said its about 5 hour drive from AC along Marcus Highway.

You picked good Hotel in Pacific Breeze where your in the middle of all the action. During the day venture down to Perimeter for some day fun as well.

[QUOTE=Konaman]1. Apparently money changers are widely available. I'm coming from Singapore via Clark. Can I readily change Singapore $ in Angeles or should I bring US$ instead?

2. Are credit cards widely accepted? In the hotels at least?

3. How far is it to Baguio from Angeles. Are there any regular bus services?[/QUOTE]
Hello Konaman,

Welcome to the board!

Yes Singapore dollars will work but you will get a better rate with USD.
For the best exchange rates try Norma's on Teodoro, one block south of Fields.

Most established businesses will take credit cards. PB hotel and some others will except USD.

Baguio is about a two hour ride, sometimes longer and buses are readily available.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Joe Olangar]Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm heading to AC in early July to do some mongering. I've got seven nights, so I'm looking to enjoy a variety of ladies.

Question: Part of me is not too keen on having to find a new good-looking girl every single morning. Methinks if I find a nice one (or two) I may want her companionship for a few evenings at a time. Can arrangements like this be made? At any place in particular?

Joe[/QUOTE]
It's not difficult to arrange at all. In fact there's a good chance she'll ask you to go see her again that night, especially if you've been nice, and bought a plural number of lady drinks the night before.

I'm with you, sometimes finding a new one is too much hassle. I'll alternate between known and unknown quantities as the mood strikes.

It's low season now, so I think girls would love to have repeat visits with guys they like. Whoever mentioned backflips earlier wasn't exaggerating by much.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]but when it comes to fuel surcharge.....[/QUOTE]
In all the past years I was used to prices somewhat 60-100 USD to get to AC.
Roundtrip of course.
Just got flight tickets for September and October for my annual Ramadhan Getaway, nowadays it's nearly 200 USD with all the hidden costs.
Anyway.

Cheers!

Hi guys,
read about your safety concerns for ac...and my friend just told me last week from 2 incidents. One guy was brutally murdered. Australian guy, around 65 or more. Stabbed and put into a suitcase. Neighbours found him, cause the smell becomes awfull.

Another guy, prob US, got shot in the face on fields last week. He survived it. Propbly you will hear more and read more about this on other ac specialized boards later.

So, if somebody ask you for your money and cphone, hand it out, its better, cause for sure the shxTbag have a gun and cause there aint much going on in those brains, better do what you been told, otherwise you will find yourself in a nice coffin back home.

But Pattaya also has his up and downs. I was in Ac last week, like evry weekend and heard nothing bout this, found nothing unusual going on, except I barfined 2 gurls from DH...of course the prettiest and one I just saw on the nice youtube video. She tells evrybody she is a virgin hahahaha LOL...

Happy and safe mongering, heads up!!

Blink

Thanks for the update.

AC does have serious safety issues -- but this is the price we all pay to have for an oversupply of cheap pussy.

This next trip, I am going to skip AC until things calm down a bit.

Ask at the bars -- either they have it or can steer you in the right direction. I've paid 150 per box of 4 Cialis tabs. Some people have said you can get it cheaper. I've had touts in Cebu ask for outrageous sums -- and then I bargained them down to 150.

X

[QUOTE=Romeu4]Anyone can clarify where to find the cheaper indian Viagra in AC?

I see the touts in the streets and they ask a lot and I would not trust their stuff even if it was free.

I think I am going to need it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcand4]If you were in AC in 1984 obviously there has been a significant down sizing since then but the fun is still there. Use your credit cards if you must only at the hotels. Preferably I use cash where you not have to worry about your credit card information ever taken.

Money changers are everywhere, WATCH OUT! Not all are respectable. Counterfit money is every where here. Seedy money changers have been known to slip in a few conterfiets while getting your money back. Norma's in AC in there is problably the most wildly used and they are the respectable money changer establishment in Angeles. When you get to AC ask where Norma's is. Everyone knows.

Personally I would bring only american 100 bills and no smaller denomination.

Smaller bills usually get smaller exchange rate. Make sure also the 100 bills are the newer version as well and in good shape. May sound crazy but make sure corners are not cut as well

Baguio is about 1 hour plane ride away. I have friend who from usa that knows Baguio well and I beleave he said its about 5 hour drive from AC along Marcus Highway.

You picked good Hotel in Pacific Breeze where your in the middle of all the action. During the day venture down to Perimeter for some day fun as well.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the update, all!

24 years is a long time, and much has changed in the Philippines at large, not just in AC I suppose. I remember changing all my money (US$) only at the bars and other such places and avoiding the licencesd moneychangers because the official fixed rate was so artificially low.

But I was in Manila just in Feb this year and the Sing$ was just as acceptable there. Was hoping it would be the same in AC as I would prefer to avoid the hassle of double conversion. Perhaps I'll just bring pesos from Singapore...

Speaking of changes, I believe not everything has changed. AC was an amazing sex haven then (and apparently still is). Also, my buddy and I picked up a couple of freelancers and paid for LT. But right after the first round both gave some excuse and left, never to return. So, we were in it with the pioneers of the art, apparently!

Hopefully better luck this time.

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[QUOTE=Konaman]
1. Apparently money changers are widely available. I'm coming from Singapore via Clark. Can I readily change Singapore $ in Angeles or should I bring US$ instead?

2. Are credit cards widely accepted? In the hotels at least?

3. How far is it to Baguio from Angeles. Are there any regular bus services?

Kindly oblige. Thanks[/QUOTE]

US $ has the lowest spread ie gives you the best rate in AC. There's no need to go to Norma's these days as they no longer offer any better rates than the most favorable rates available in Field's (just check the signs). The only reason to go to (the "wholesaler") Norma's would be if you'd want to change a large amount, something the smaller shops along Field's may not be able to handle.

Credit cards are accepted in the hotels, but usually at a surcharge. Personally I limit my CC use in PI, much better to withdraw from ATM and pay ca$h, which also limits the cloning risk..

Buses to Baguio are available 24/7 from Dau bus terminal (a trike ride away). IMO it's realistic to budget about 5 hrs for the trip incl. rest stops etc.

Enjoy your stay :)

[QUOTE=Joe Olangar]Hey everyone,

Joe here. I'm heading to AC in early July to do some mongering. I've got seven nights, so I'm looking to enjoy a variety of ladies.

Question: Part of me is not too keen on having to find a new good-looking girl every single morning. Methinks if I find a nice one (or two) I may want her companionship for a few evenings at a time. Can arrangements like this be made? At any place in particular?

Joe[/QUOTE]

Joe,

Anything can be worked out. It's all about the money and they will accomodate you. A few days, a week, the longer the better for the Bars and the Mama-sans. I would suggest just bar fine the girl and take it day to day. Something may catch your eye and it's sometimes good to have that flexibility. The good one's are hard to find, so if you do land one, it's very easy to go back to the bar and just bar fine the girl for another night as needed. I have done 2 to 3 nights in a row, but usually move on after that.

Sometimes if it goes on too long, they get tooooooooooooo attached! LOL! Have fun!

AT2

[QUOTE=Yiddo]Well, just read the first two pages of reports about AC, and found ZERO info about mongering! Plenty of crap about safety though, and lots of stuff about the Middle East. Hmm. OK, I'll do some. AC is NOT dangerous, unless you are stupid enough to go back to a stranger's place and play cards, or something like that (in which case you get what you deserve). Lots of bars, thousands of girls, 90-something percent ordinary with babies etc. , but shop around, stay sober and you will find a good looking one. Lots of cuties who won't go ('cherry girls'). AC is renowned for this. Prices have risen steadily, but still cheap at around P1200 barfine, which is all-inclusive, although tips are optional. Increasing numbers of girls won't stay all night these days, especially the best lookers from the busiest bars such as Blue Nile. AC is still a craphole in general, although there is now a nice big mall (SM mall). Lots of better (and quite expensive) hotels have opened up. I recommend Pacific Breeze at around US$60 per night, nice pool etc.come on guys, lets have useful info, not sad-assed rumours and private conversations.[/QUOTE]

Yiddo,

Safety is always a concern for newbies. Just remember to stay on the main busy drag, stay away from anyone who is too friendly or pretends to know you. Stay away from blind spots (bushes, corners, etc.), where someone can jump out without you seeing them. Bottom line, be smart. Ok, back to the info.

AC does have a lot of girls who are friendly at the bar and hit the off switch as soon as your key hit's the lock on your hotel room door. Often, you can feel the girls personality change as soon as you get a block from the bar.

The Pacific Breeze is good, but I think the AC hotels are overpriced, considering you are in the middle of no where. The prices are very close to what you would pay in Bangkok! LOL!

The barfines have gone up, and while most are P1,200, there's also a few bars at P1,350 and the "model", "spot light" girls at the Doll House and Atlantis, who are available at P3,000. That's very high, considering how inconsistent the performances are in AC. Atlantis currently has a very good lineup, but the best performances still seem to be the mid range girls, who are above average in looks but not so much that they go starfish on you. Many of them around in AC for the P1,200.

Peace,
AT2

[QUOTE=Ghost 13]I just got some info about dollhouse getting raided and the NBI taking all the girls wearing body paint. Does anybody know anything about it?[/QUOTE]The "raid" was conducted by the CIDG out of manila. All of the girls that were taken "into custody" were the ones who were painted. The girls were NOT given any other clothes to bring with them and hauled away with what they had on (meaning body paint and a small t-back panty). Soon after the girls were at the Manila CIDG location, they were subsequently released WITHOUT charges being filed against them. HOWEVER, they were just put out onto the streets and NOT given a ride back to AC. The DHG (dollhouse group) did arrange transportation back to ac for them.

[QUOTE=Pute Nut]US $ has the lowest spread ie gives you the best rate in AC. There's no need to go to Norma's these days as they no longer offer any better rates than the most favorable rates available in Field's (just check the signs). The only reason to go to (the "wholesaler") Norma's would be if you'd want to change a large amount, something the smaller shops along Field's may not be able to handle.

Credit cards are accepted in the hotels, but usually at a surcharge. Personally I limit my CC use in PI, much better to withdraw from ATM and pay ca$h, which also limits the cloning risk..

Buses to Baguio are available 24/7 from Dau bus terminal (a trike ride away). IMO it's realistic to budget about 5 hrs for the trip incl. rest stops etc.

Enjoy your stay :)[/QUOTE]

hi guys,

credit surcharges are against the law..of course some spots will allways do that and try to get away with that. My fren recently came back from PGalera and will report the resort. They can get big trouble and can be fined quite high. YOu cant put a service and then charge again for the service you offer LOL...thats plain BS.

When Im back home to Manila I ask my fren and give you the exact words and what Law and where you can go and complain if that happens to you.

Its illegal guys, DONT PAY IT!!


Blink

[QUOTE=Blink157]hi guys,

credit surcharges are against the law..of course some spots will allways do that and try to get away with that. My fren recently came back from PGalera and will report the resort. They can get big trouble and can be fined quite high. YOu cant put a service and then charge again for the service you offer LOL...thats plain BS.

When Im back home to Manila I ask my fren and give you the exact words and what Law and where you can go and complain if that happens to you.

Its illegal guys, DONT PAY IT!!


Blink[/QUOTE]

Credit Surcharges are against the contract with VISA/ MC etc. Report to them.

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]Yiddo,

Safety is always a concern for newbies. Just remember to stay on the main busy drag, stay away from anyone who is too friendly or pretends to know you. Stay away from blind spots (bushes, corners, etc.), where someone can jump out without you seeing them. Bottom line, be smart. Ok, back to the info.

AC does have a lot of girls who are friendly at the bar and hit the off switch as soon as your key hit's the lock on your hotel room door. Often, you can feel the girls personality change as soon as you get a block from the bar.

The Pacific Breeze is good, but I think the AC hotels are overpriced, considering you are in the middle of no where. The prices are very close to what you would pay in Bangkok! LOL!

The barfines have gone up, and while most are P1,200, there's also a few bars at P1,350 and the "model", "spot light" girls at the Doll House and Atlantis, who are available at P3,000. That's very high, considering how inconsistent the performances are in AC. Atlantis currently has a very good lineup, but the best performances still seem to be the mid range girls, who are above average in looks but not so much that they go starfish on you. Many of them around in AC for the P1,200.

Peace,

AT2[/QUOTE]Guys you can avoid the higher prices by going Perimeter. Lower Barfines, lower drink prices, less boof-boof-boof, and less bargirl attitudes. You can find future "spot light" girls there for a 1000 peso barfine.

Hotels are less out there too.

Don't be an idiot. I've found this true overseas as well as in the US. Don't flash a lot of money around you are just asking for trouble. Use that thing on your shoulders for something other than a hat rack. If the area looks bad most likely it is. You wouldn't go down a dark alley in a bad neighborhood in the states so why take the same chances overseas.

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi guys,
read about your safety concerns for ac...and my friend just told me last week from 2 incidents. One guy was brutally murdered. Australian guy, around 65 or more. Stabbed and put into a suitcase. Neighbours found him, cause the smell becomes awfull.

Another guy, prob US, got shot in the face on fields last week. He survived it. Propbly you will hear more and read more about this on other ac specialized boards later.

So, if somebody ask you for your money and cphone, hand it out, its better, cause for sure the shxTbag have a gun and cause there aint much going on in those brains, better do what you been told, otherwise you will find yourself in a nice coffin back home.

But Pattaya also has his up and downs. I was in Ac last week, like evry weekend and heard nothing bout this, found nothing unusual going on, except I barfined 2 gurls from DH...of course the prettiest and one I just saw on the nice youtube video. She tells evrybody she is a virgin hahahaha LOL...

Happy and safe mongering, heads up!!

Blink[/QUOTE]

another thing that is rampant is rumors and mis-information. The gunshot to the head incident was actually in Cebu, and one man is being held. The police say its drug related.

You know what...people die in every city in the world. But all things considered AC is pretty safe. It really is.

Actually, there was a man shot in the face in Angeles. He is actually a local, owner of The Viper Room and Honey Pot.

The incident took place in the middle of May outside Baretto's Meat Market, aparently a robbery gone bad. Luckily he survived the ordeal.

I do agree that crime happens everywhere but one must be aware that Angeles is a city with it's share of crime. Personally, I will still continue to visit as often as I can...

Cheers!

[QUOTE=FireWalker]Guys you can avoid the higher prices by going Perimeter. Lower Barfines, lower drink prices, less boof-boof-boof, and less bargirl attitudes. You can find future "spot light" girls there for a 1000 peso barfine.[/QUOTE]
Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!

[QUOTE=Blackangst]The gunshot to the head incident was actually in Cebu, and one man is being held[/QUOTE]
Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!


Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.[/QUOTE]

Oh yeah the ray shooting. I misinterprated the time I guess. For some reason I thought he was talking about in the last 2 weeks..which is the one I WAS REFERRING TO. fair enough =)

And yeah thx for telling everyone about perimeter..haha

Spent the last weekend (Friday to Sunday nights) in AC with 2 friends. Stayed in Clarkton Hotel. Found the hotel very clean and nice. Unfortunately, the constant rain restricted our our mongering, particularly around the Perimeter area.

We spent our first afternoon/evening in Mirrors Club in Clarkton. The numbers have girls have increased since the last time but they have now dancers to provide alternate entertainment. Girls vary from 5.5 to 7, some 8s and 8.5s amongst the dancers. Hanging around Mirrors allowed us to play pool, slosh ourselves with Vodka and mingle with the girls. With the rain, we ended up with girls from Mirrors. Mine was a 6.5 but she although she was initially shy, she was really service with a smile. BBBJ, Cowgirl, Missionary, Reverse Cowgirl, we went on most of the night. I just loved when she blew the load off me, taking everything in her mouth. Anyway, she left at 9am the next morning and I went back to sleep.

Day 2 - got up late afternoon and had lunch. Just as we were ready to leave for Perimeter, it started pouring again. Played pool and had drink at Mirrors before leaving late evening for the Fields. Somehow ended up in Camelot and stayed there the whole night. Watch the waitresses here as they are real guzzlers pushing for LDs. Anyway, I ended up with a petite babe from Mindanao - wonderful locks. I enjoyed using every part of the room but just couldnt cum with all the alcohol I consumed. Anyway, gave up halfway and tried again in the morning whne I succeeded blowing it all over her face. She was nice company and didn't seem to want to leave until I shoosed her away at 12.30pm. Time to recover and off to bed I went.

Day 3 was our last night and we headed out to the Fields.

Geckos - Most are past out date;
La Bamba - Dead fish on stage;
La Pasha- Quite a good collection of girls, some really friendly from the stage. The waitresses seemed better, iuncluding the girls promoting some drink called 'Rosie'.
Atlantis - They need to clear out all the Old moms there. The dancers were decent but were more keen dancing facing the mirrors on the side than entertaining the crowd. Nice set up though;

Bronw Sugar - mostly 6s but one 7. She was trying hard to impress us with her dancing, sending the body signals, but my 2 friends were planning an orgy and we gave it a miss

Ended up in Camelot again and on show were talent that we did not see the previous night. Anyway, my friend ended up barfinined the bartender (she was quite good looking) whilst I ended with the girl he humped the night before. Whilst my 2 friends settled into the balcony and slowly began the orgy, I was totally wasted and settled for a nice long BBBJ before turning in.

Wished we could stay longer. Certainly a great experience.

Will certainly be back again this year.

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My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.

[QUOTE=Konaman]My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.[/QUOTE]Perhaps I will run across you there as I get into town on Saturday.

Just take an umbrella, and spend your time indoors. The best activities happen there anyway.
[QUOTE=Konaman]My trip starts this friday and I can't wait!

Current weather sounds like a dampener though.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure this place is exactly paradise, but parts of it sure are!

(I) The weather

Being of English heritage, the first thing we should do is talk about the weather (I know you want to hear about the girls! )

I've been here for almost a week and the weather has been great. A monster rain a couple of nights ago with big thunder and lightning, but other than that a lot of sunshine and nice still conditions.

(ii) The hotel

I'm staying at Clarkton. It's very good value, quiet and relaxing with a good pool, gym and one of the best hotel restaurants in Angeles. The food and service in the restaurant is great. And I also like being able to open the window to let some ‘’fresh’ air in.

Another good thing here is the internet connection is very fast with a lot of rooms using wireless.

I haven't been inside, but the new studios look very classy.

On the downside, it's a quite long jeepney ride from the action in fields. It's kinda nice just to walk out of your hotel down there and go to a cafe or for a drink whenever you like, particularly if the rain does hit.

Also the front desk is kinda weird with the girls there hidden sitting way down from a pretty high wall in front of them. This reduces the friendly interaction you get from the front desk at the other hotels.

One funny thing is I still have Clarkton's details in my phone book from a long time ago when I stayed here before. I'm not sure if it's from my last visit about five years ago or even earlier than that, but I have the price there as 476 pesos less a pay in advance discount!

The prices now are still very reasonable, around 1800 pesos for a small, but reasonable room.

However the cheaper rooms are showing their age. The aircon is pretty noisy and a few things weren't working when I checked in. The tv volume wouldn't come on, but the tech guy came immediately, checked it and then immediately brought a new tv. Good friendly service and he deserved his 100 p tip. I know some kuripots will say, but he just fixed something that shouldn't be broken, but my attitude was he put the extra

Then the shower nozzle was spraying water everywhere and they fixed that too.

Finally the toilet lid won't stay open, but I think I've done enough complaining!

(ii) Nice husbands

Without naming names, a girl I know who works in a hotel had a big bruise just next to her eye. She’s married and her husband whacked her the night before.

She works and the guy just gets drunk and spends her hard earned. She said she can’t divorce because she can’t afford the legal fees, and she has kids and it would look bad to her family. I wish people would get those old fashioned ideas out of their head about loss of face.


(iii) Mirrors

Mirrors is full of very delectable lasses. The only thing is I'm fairly quiet and just basically sat there. It was hard to see a lot of the girls and the girls seemed to just sit in groups and chat amongst themselves with little interaction with the guests.

The "cultural show" where a group of around 8 very pretty girls do a "cultural dance" was very good and entertaining. A couple of those were very barfinable, but I'm not sure if you can take those out. Anyone had any luck with the cultural dancers?

(iv) Other bars

Sorry guys, but so far I’ve only been with previous girlfriends and a girl from one of those massage places.

However I was interested in a really hot girl from Lost in Asia (right next to the Clarkton) who I met on the jeepney, but when I went there to buy her a drink and maybe bf her, she was with a guy who was already in the process of barfining her. She sent me a text saying ‘sorry, but maybe I’ll catch up with her another time.

I also went down to that group of three small bars in the side street near Phoenix. The guy I went with wasn’t too impressed – they do look pretty grungy – so he left and I stayed on to buy a couple of girls a drink.

I would have barfined both, but one of the girls told me she doesn’t like boom boom. She said she had scar tissue in her pussy from giving birth and sex was very painful for her. And she also told me she had a barfine the previous night and the guy wasn’t happy when she wouldn’t boom boom him. Lucky I didn’’t waste my money there.

(v) Romantic night gone commercial

The last time I was in Angeles (around Feb) a good English friend of mine introduced me to one of his girlfriends, a really sweet, pretty educated girl doing a college degree.

She was great company and very hot in bed. She wanted about 2, 000 pesos to help fund her education, no problem with that.

Lots of emails since with her telling me all the normal bola bola about how wonderful I am (yeah sure I’m more handsome than Brad Pitt! ) She also said her dream phone is a samsung E250, cost in Philippines about 5, 000 pesos. So being the nice guy I am? I brought her a new one from Australia (phones and computers are a little cheaper in Oz).

We had a wonderful, very romantic dinner at the very classy Italian restaurant above the bar opposite Kokomos. Good food, service and lots of gentle, romantic, soft kisses with this classy girl. Damage for a very nice dinner was 1100 pesos – good value. And she loved the phone and seemed very happy.

Then the normal hot fun in my hotel. To me it was nice to have a normal date, rather than a hard core bar action. However the mood for me was kinda ruined when just as she was leaving, she asked about her allowance. WTF! I gave her 200 pesos for her transport.

She wants to go out for a movie tonight (Saturday), but I sent her a text saying I was a little unhappy that she asked for the money after I gave her the phone. She now claims she wanted money for the transport, but I find that hard to believe.

I guess I wanted to believe I twas aa genuine date with a beautiful girl, but to be honest about it, I’m twice her age and not so much in common.

Sometimes it’s better to keep it simple, barfine some honey and take it easy.

(v) Have you eaten yet?

I’ve read some other guys laughing at the constant questioning in texts of «have you eaten your breakfast yet? » I read in a magazine on the way over that « have you eaten yet is a common greeting in the Philippines. I also used to laugh at the inanity of that question, but at least I know now it’s a form of greeting. I think there’s a similar saying in Chinese too.

(vi) Norma’s money change

I didn’t do an exhaustive comparison, but I checked the Aussie dollar exchange rate at two money changers first, and norma’s was substantially better. The only thing is the side street is a bit dodgy. I once was accosted by this solid fiipino older guy there after changing money. He was asking me to go to see his shop which sold some crap. I politely refused and he started getting « friendý » by moving closer and patting me near my pockets to try to pickpocket me. At that I got pretty angry and left immediately. I realise, of course, my mistake in politely acknowledging him and stopping. Not fun.

Enjoy

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Well Victorian it sounds like all is going well for you in Paradise. May I suggest a Perimeter Bar called "Touch of Class" Its a "laid" back bar where its a relax atmosphere. Girls are not all "10" but they are some cute ones. I will tell you that you can short time upstairs as well at Perimeter Hotel and I have NEVER been disapointed with these girls cuz they are aiming to please. Nothing is off the table. Momma B. Is the Mamasan. Talk to her if you need too. Food is actually pretty good here as well.

On my recent trip in March, I had a real date with one of those cultural dancers at Mirrors. She told me they could barfine, but they could not leave until after 1am. She actually quit the Clarkton dance show a month before we met in person so I can not confirm this, but she seemed very honest and sincere.

The night i arrived in Angeles on March 14, we met at the Irish Pub, had a few drinks and she spent the night with me. We had a great time together except that she was unbelievably shy and quiet.

[QUOTE=Victorian]
(iii) Mirrors

The "cultural show" where a group of around 8 very pretty girls do a "cultural dance" was very good and entertaining. A couple of those were very barfinable, but I'm not sure if you can take those out. Anyone had any luck with the cultural dancers?

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[QUOTE=Towelboy2010]On my recent trip in March, I had a real date with one of those cultural dancers at Mirrors. She told me they could barfine, but they could not leave until after 1am. She actually quit the Clarkton dance show a month before we met in person so I can not confirm this, but she seemed very honest and sincere.

The night i arrived in Angeles on March 14, we met at the Irish Pub, had a few drinks and she spent the night with me. We had a great time together except that she was unbelievably shy and quiet.[/QUOTE]

She is pinay? She looks middle eastern to me. Especially the nose. But we all know how pics are :p

Fate brought me back to Angeles.

I didn't quite enjoy the first time because I was here for just 48 hours and didn't know where to go. Now to avoid the afternoon boredom I go to the casino and the wild aces at the wild orchid!

Bah some dude last night broke us all; he took easily 20K or 30K home for a buy in of 2K.

To forget this I went to Viper Room, as they were advertising the lingerie night and the australian BBQ. Frankly the lingerie was very cheap, quite pathetic, don't they have La Perla or Agent Provocateur in the Phils?

Someone should open a franchise at SM Mall already!

My time at the Viper Room was oppressing, I was constantly asked to buy ladies drink for the girl I was talking too, and those annoying waitresses also wanted LD for themselves! Wtf why should I buy them drinks every hour!

Also I was pressured to buy some kind of roses necklaces that you give to the girl who are doing the lingerie show.

The first LD I bought to my date, ended up being spilled by the girl, so another was ordered and billed instantly (wtf! I don't care for 140P but sure I'll never go back to viper room, they don't know shit about working for repeat customers).

I bar fined Vanessa, a fine girl. I bar fined her because she talk easily about her job, she was quite honest said she hated Angeles, that it was full of crazy people, and told me to be careful about those shitty waitresses that push you to buy LD. Great attitude so I bar fined her.

In bed she was quite boring & passive, despite being quite reactive it was a boring session.

On a side note, did someone preach about safe sex during the last couple of months? The last time I was here I didn't hear the word 'condom' now I see the aids red ribbon everywhere, and all the girls asked for a condom. I tried to trick one saying "I don't have any" she replied "nevermind" so there is quite more to do regarding safe sex but it seems at least the girls have been informed about STD's and that can only be a good thing! Means they'll be more careful about barebacking guy who have a dick that doesn't look too healthy and do their monthly tests carefully!

Vanessa told me she used to be a super star for a few weeks at the Atlantis (I wonder if it's true) but she said the girls have to repeat their routines everyday and it's very tiring and she couldn't deal with so much pressure!

The night before I bar hooped after waking up at 4AM, I'm afraid at this time there are only left over. So I went to Atlantis and got a girl who was there. Quite friendly.

By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.

I noticed a new club, the crystal palace which wasn't here two months ago. It belongs to the doll house group. Omg those guys must be loaded, DH + DH hotel + Atlantis + Crystal Palace. A girl told me the owner of the group was some Hawaiian dude who died recently. It wasn't really clear who took over, she said her family or something, but if someone has the full story, I'd be curious to hear, I wonder who's the running the show here, it sure seems not to be the Filipino, as in many clubs you see Australian owner, or German owner etc.

I still have the same problem about finding descent food in Angeles. Especially the breakfast is an issue. I tried the Mc Donalds they don't even serve Mc Morning here. Where can one get a descent breakfast with scrambled eggs, bacon, cereals, etc. (apart from Sub Delicious)

And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?

As a European I would like to watch EURO 2008, does anyone which channel shows it if any? I mean wtf I’m staying at pacifying breeze, and they seems to have cable or satellite, and I couldn’t seem to find a channel that showed the match live, instead there was some basket and some baseball games. Boring!

On a final note, I'd like to report the raining season has been quite dry for now!

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[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
... By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.../QUOTE]



EF:

I am most surprised to read that! According to my experience at various places a bbbj belongs to the "standard program"! I suppose you simply had bad luck!


Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]
And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?
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ABC has set lunch which was very good though not cheap when I was there.
Best (but expensive) restaurant in AC by far is C's Italian Dining IMHO. It's on Perimeter.

escort fan,

try solar sports, they show the cup live. Go to shanos you can watch it there. Its near pacific breeze. If you want to watch it with some guys.

Excellent breakfast buffet avaible in CLarkton hotel until 12 noon.

Good breakfast and good coffee in swiss chalet. Its also near PB.

Hope that helps.


Blink

no divorce is allowed, only "annulment" (same thing but costs much more and must be negotiated with the church-the real power center here).

c's is nice but the prices are out of whack for a third world country (rome prices). azzuro restaurant, above camelot where santos dead ends at fields, is much more reasonably priced and has excellent italian food.

abc redid their kitchen a few months back and now the chef from azzuro runs the kitchen i believe.

not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates.

some scumbag apparently spread an std among the perimeter road bj bars and the girls are pissed about it. beware.

the high front desk at clarkton helps minimize the wall of shame it sounds like (never stayed there).

rain is a good thing. you can buy umbrellas for 50 pisos from street vendors (with bargaining), so the rain should not be that big a deal walking around. keeps the air much cleaner and cooler too. and the girls huddle under the overhangs seeking shelter giving you a captive audience to flirt. offer them a trike ride to a dry hotel room. do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.

in the post eruption years rain was like a blessing from heaven because it gave you a break from the blowing lahar (powder like volcanic dust that got everywhere on your body).

the philippines gets lots of rain, make no mistake about that. and dry" season (now over) is a relative term. this dry season was anything but.

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[quote=hornygeorge]not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates...

...do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.[/quote]
1) abc used to include breakfast in their rates, but the last time i was there they did not. it is possible they do now, but as of mid-january they didn't. pacific breeze didn't last time i was there either. i believe the new lewis grand will include two breakfasts in their room rate. the third one is on you.

2) i would not recommend a new visitor to take a freelancer, at all. there are too many girls in the bars to risk it, and there aren't that many decent fl's anyway. also, do not let a bar girl invite a "friend" over. the friend might be ****.

this is probably the wrong place to put weather inquiry, but since hg has hit upon the topic.....here goes.

i'm looking for a good web site that provides information about different areas of the philippines. here is one example, but unfortunately only has z city and mnl.
[url]http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/225/climate/south-east-asia/philippines.html[/url]

in the past i've left rainy cebu and found great weather in davao. nevertheless, i hear that davao is flooded at the moment.

x

[quote=hornygeorge]no divorce is allowed, only "annulment" (same thing but costs much more and must be negotiated with the church-the real power center here).

c's is nice but the prices are out of whack for a third world country (rome prices). azzuro restaurant, above camelot where santos dead ends at fields, is much more reasonably priced and has excellent italian food.

abc redid their kitchen a few months back and now the chef from azzuro runs the kitchen i believe.

not a breakfast eater so cannot comment on that other than to note nicer hotels include breakfast in their rates.

some scumbag apparently spread an std among the perimeter road bj bars and the girls are pissed about it. beware.

the high front desk at clarkton helps minimize the wall of shame it sounds like (never stayed there).

rain is a good thing. you can buy umbrellas for 50 pisos from street vendors (with bargaining), so the rain should not be that big a deal walking around. keeps the air much cleaner and cooler too. and the girls huddle under the overhangs seeking shelter giving you a captive audience to flirt. offer them a trike ride to a dry hotel room. do be very careful of **** setups if taking freelancers as this has become a cottage industry in balibago in recent years.

in the post eruption years rain was like a blessing from heaven because it gave you a break from the blowing lahar (powder like volcanic dust that got everywhere on your body).

the philippines gets lots of rain, make no mistake about that. and dry" season (now over) is a relative term. this dry season was anything but.

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[QUOTE=McJohn]ABC has set lunch which was very good though not cheap when I was there.
Best (but expensive) restaurant in AC by far is C's Italian Dining IMHO. It's on Perimeter.[/QUOTE]

A lot of girls feel awkward about it and need coaxing. Ask if they do in "interview",

[QUOTE=Escort Fan]Fate brought me back to Angeles.

I didn't quite enjoy the first time because I was here for just 48 hours and didn't know where to go. Now to avoid the afternoon boredom I go to the casino and the wild aces at the wild orchid!

Bah some dude last night broke us all; he took easily 20K or 30K home for a buy in of 2K.

To forget this I went to Viper Room, as they were advertising the lingerie night and the australian BBQ. Frankly the lingerie was very cheap, quite pathetic, don't they have La Perla or Agent Provocateur in the Phils?

Someone should open a franchise at SM Mall already!

My time at the Viper Room was oppressing, I was constantly asked to buy ladies drink for the girl I was talking too, and those annoying waitresses also wanted LD for themselves! Wtf why should I buy them drinks every hour!

Also I was pressured to buy some kind of roses necklaces that you give to the girl who are doing the lingerie show.

The first LD I bought to my date, ended up being spilled by the girl, so another was ordered and billed instantly (wtf! I don't care for 140P but sure I'll never go back to viper room, they don't know shit about working for repeat customers).

I bar fined Vanessa, a fine girl. I bar fined her because she talk easily about her job, she was quite honest said she hated Angeles, that it was full of crazy people, and told me to be careful about those shitty waitresses that push you to buy LD. Great attitude so I bar fined her.

In bed she was quite boring & passive, despite being quite reactive it was a boring session.

On a side note, did someone preach about safe sex during the last couple of months? The last time I was here I didn't hear the word 'condom' now I see the aids red ribbon everywhere, and all the girls asked for a condom. I tried to trick one saying "I don't have any" she replied "nevermind" so there is quite more to do regarding safe sex but it seems at least the girls have been informed about STD's and that can only be a good thing! Means they'll be more careful about barebacking guy who have a dick that doesn't look too healthy and do their monthly tests carefully!

Vanessa told me she used to be a super star for a few weeks at the Atlantis (I wonder if it's true) but she said the girls have to repeat their routines everyday and it's very tiring and she couldn't deal with so much pressure!

The night before I bar hooped after waking up at 4AM, I'm afraid at this time there are only left over. So I went to Atlantis and got a girl who was there. Quite friendly.

By the way, is there something wrong with Philippines girls, they hard give BJ, is this not common practice here? I don't want to push for BJ, but I do like a good BJ as an appetizer.

I noticed a new club, the crystal palace which wasn't here two months ago. It belongs to the doll house group. Omg those guys must be loaded, DH + DH hotel + Atlantis + Crystal Palace. A girl told me the owner of the group was some Hawaiian dude who died recently. It wasn't really clear who took over, she said her family or something, but if someone has the full story, I'd be curious to hear, I wonder who's the running the show here, it sure seems not to be the Filipino, as in many clubs you see Australian owner, or German owner etc.

I still have the same problem about finding descent food in Angeles. Especially the breakfast is an issue. I tried the Mc Donalds they don't even serve Mc Morning here. Where can one get a descent breakfast with scrambled eggs, bacon, cereals, etc. (apart from Sub Delicious)

And what are the finest tables of the city? I thought perhaps ABC being the finest hotel is town has maybe excellent food, did anyone test it?

As a European I would like to watch EURO 2008, does anyone which channel shows it if any? I mean wtf I’m staying at pacifying breeze, and they seems to have cable or satellite, and I couldn’t seem to find a channel that showed the match live, instead there was some basket and some baseball games. Boring!

On a final note, I'd like to report the raining season has been quite dry for now!

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Fields area bars don't care about repeat business, they only care about NOW BUSINESS. If you want bars that care about repeat business go to Perimeter bars.

Sunset Gardens has pretty good food, you need to venture off the well worn path.

Don't get so enamored with any new bars that open. Generally, they are stocked with "old fish" from other ponds. Yea, it is fun to stop in and check out the new bars as they open, but they are not the wisest place to find your "picks". They rely on your naivete to make quick dollars.

You are buying the expensive lights and hot sound systems for these guys. Also, the extra makeup that the girls wear. It is all about getting your money as fast as possible, for as little effort as possible. Think about it, wouldn't you?

[QUOTE=FireWalker]Don't get so enamored with any new bars that open. Generally, they are stocked with "old fish" from other ponds. Yea, it is fun to stop in and check out the new bars as they open, but they are not the wisest place to find your "picks". They rely on your naivete to make quick dollars.

You are buying the expensive lights and hot sound systems for these guys. Also, the extra makeup that the girls wear. It is all about getting your money as fast as possible, for as little effort as possible. Think about it, wouldn't you?[/QUOTE]Its true that the girls are dragged in from surrounding bars but the nice thing is they are all excited & motivated about being in a flashy new bar with new costumes on & the prestige of being seen working there.

Taking a girl to a newly opened bar for an outing works well for me, they really appreciate seeing something new for a change. Getting them happy & excited leads to better sex in my personal experience. ;)

I would really hate to see the bars stagnate. Opening new bars is part of the life cycle of bars. Old bars become decrepit & close, new ones open.
AV

Hi,
yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...


Blink

Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

[url]www.lewisgrand.com[/url]

thanks for this post.

I pasted it last month when I was in Angeles during May.

I will have to check it out.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

[url]www.lewisgrand.com[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=X Man]This is probably the wrong place to put weather inquiry, but since HG has hit upon the topic.....here goes.

I'm looking for a good web site that provides information about different areas of the Philippines. Here is one example, but unfortunately only has Z City and MNL.
[url]http://www.worldtravelguide.net/country/225/climate/South-East-Asia/Philippines.html[/url]

In the past I've left rainy Cebu and found great weather in Davao. Nevertheless, I hear that Davao is flooded at the moment.

X[/QUOTE]

X is this what you are looking for.

[url]http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Philippines&MR=1[/url]

Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks

Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.

X


[QUOTE=Bob Down]X is this what you are looking for.

[url]http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Philippines&MR=1[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Now you've done it, letting the bargirl out of the bag!

Actually no. He is talking about the Aussie Ray Kelly who is a bar owner in AC and Subic. He was shot in the face in front of a store a while back. Two guys are in custody and revenge seems to be the motive.[/QUOTE]I know Ray Kelly from my many trips to AC. How is he, was he badly wounded, do you know? Do you know when the shooting actually happened?

Thanks in advance.

What was the net charge on this?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Had the pleasure of staying at this property last month and it was very enjoyable indeed! Hard to miss this hotel located on Don Juico Ave., perfect for visiting the Perimeter Road bars.

Although not 100% complete, I got the full tour by Sir Lewis, a great host by the way. He is putting the finishing touches on what will soon be the place to stay in AC.

Spent three days in a deluxe king room that featured LCD flat screen TV, king size bed, waterfall shower and massive wood storage cabinets with in room safe.
Every room comes complementary with breakfast of your choice for two but since the dinning room was not quite finished, we were served breakfast in bed!

Overall service was top notch, like something you would expect from a five star hotel. The hotel should be in full swing by the end of the month.

[url]www.lewisgrand.com[/url][/QUOTE]

Whats the cost for Lewis Grand?

[QUOTE=X Man]Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the site is good. Usually 1 day before my flight to Clarke I have a look there whether there are typhoons around. I don't like bumpy flights and if, I wanna know why.

29 days to go! :D

Cheers!

[QUOTE=X Man]Wow, great site for weather forecasts in Philippines. Thanks

Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.

X[/QUOTE]

Not sure if this helps but the site has a history link, so for example you can look at the weather that Davao had in the month of june 2007. It might give you an idea about how many rainy days to expect.

[QUOTE=Hunny Buns]What was the net charge on this?[/QUOTE]
That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.

[u][b]To Bees11 :[/b][/u]

Not sure on the exact date but it was sometime in the second week of May.
The bullet went through his head without doing much damage but he still needed an operation.
Looks like he will make a complete recovery.
He was lucky.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.

[u][b]To Bees11 :[/b][/u]

Not sure on the exact date but it was sometime in the second week of May.
The bullet went through his head without doing much damage but he still needed an operation.
Looks like he will make a complete recovery.
He was lucky.[/QUOTE]

LOL...went tru his head without doing much damage :D..I know the topic is serious but that s kinda funny how you explain/report/describe it...

on the serious side. I heard the bullet went from his left cheek to his right cheeks and didnt hit any teeth or any other lifethreatening parts of his head including his brain....So he was dam lucky I guess..

Happy day..

Blink

[QUOTE=X Man]Actually, I was thinking more about overall trends in weather. In my limited experiences, I find I get rained on less often in Davao, Mindanao than Manila or Cebu or Bohol.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.weatherbase.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Mattrick]That room is a 'Deluxe King' and is the cheapest they offer at 2600p net.[/QUOTE]
Seems reasonable. And good location.
Cheers!

I heard that Champayne Bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. Anyone know about this? Of course I am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.

[QUOTE=Dcand4]I heard that Champayne Bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. Anyone know about this? Of course I am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.[/QUOTE]I just returned home from having spent the last 7 days in AC and was in champagne everyday but one and they were open that day also so unless it happened today ( or after I passed by yesterday) I think it's a rumor. could be wrong though.

well, i too have just returned from 5 nights at angeles. and i am still recovering...!

some of us newbies have been slagged off by the vets here for taking all the info available here and not returning anything, so, i shall pen a small report on my take of angeles city.

first off let me state a little background info. i'm an asian of indian origin from singapore who travelled with two others of similar origin. myself and friend1 have been to angeles city back in 1984 when we were in our early 20s. i'm now 48, friend1 is 50 and friend2 ( a real newbie to the philippines) is 55.

before our trip one of our concern was how we would be received by the bars and the girls. our early years mongering was always in thailand as it is much nearer to singapore. and i had seen thailand change so much over the years in this respect. i stopped mongering in thailand altogether in 1992 when i was denied entry to every single groundfloor bar in patpong only because of the colour of my skin. thailand has become a white man's near exclusive play area. i did make subsequent trips to phuket, pattaya and bangkok and, while the racism is not as obvious, its still there. i did not even bother with the bars in pattaya, places which had given me some great pleasures in early years...

coming back to topic, we stayed all 5 nights at pacific breeze. a great hotel in a great location. and the front desk constantly manned by a bevy of beauties. pity they were not available, at least not to us!

now much has been said about "blowrow" and i was really interested in checking out these unique establishments. but it was a total let-down. as far as i could see there were only 3 bars still around - black pearl, honktonk and gobbles. in fact it is a misnomer to even describe the black pearl and gobbles as "bars". all 3 are basically dumps with the ambience of a junkyard. and there are no girls there, only matrons in whom you would be a very brave man to stick your precious tool in. still, on our first day we tried to actually sit and have a beer at black pearl and gobbles. the "ladies" at black pearl entirely ignored us, imagine what that did to our confidence.. but surprisingly friend1, who had retired from such activities for the past 20 years, took a fancy to one fat lady who was hitting on him at gobbles and took her back to his room. this left friend2 and me totally stunned!

now let me speed up things a bit...

1st night. we walked around fields a bit. the door girls at the bars didn't seem too eager to welcome us. we tried a couple of bars. after the initial orders we were left alone. and one of the bars had the worst collection of girls i had ever seen. oh dear...

then we entered owl's nest. one pretty petite girl led me in. while the girls dancing were not many and not all that great, friend2 was attracted to one of the bartenders. and i was smitten with the petite one who clung on to me. we both paid the barfine of p1300 and took our beauties home.

and it was a wonderful night with a good gfe. she was a little shy and refused to shower with me. but the sex was okay and she clung to me throughout the night. she left early the next morning after another round. i gave her a p300 tip.

i think i best post this before i lose the report... to be continued.

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2nd Night. Well, start with the day. Friend2 went early morning with his girl to meet up with her sister. They had breakfast at the Swiss Chalet. No, nothing happened thereafter as his girl left. Friend1 and I met up at Mo Cafe after our girls left. We ordered breakfast there. And this place holds the distinction of serving me the worst western breafast in my whole life. Same for my friend too. I mean, how bad can mash be? Try it at Mo's

We spent the afternoon at SM Mall. God, it's huge. A pretty needed distraction to while away the day. before the bars open in late afternoon. I know, I know, there are some 24 hrs bars, but we didn't try any.

Given our age we were not too eager to have another night of action. So we decided to take it easy. But the events of last night convinced us that we too could have some real fun here.

So we just did some good ol bar hopping. Can't remember all the bars, but we did try out Cambodia and Doll House. Our personal views: Both are lousy! We didn't find any girl who could even remotely stir us from our self-imposed celibacy. Really, you should spend your money elsewhere! But Brown Sugar is good...

3rd Night. We spent the entire day finding our way to Subic Bay and back. It's been said before and I'll say again: it aint worth the trip

Nightfall, we again hit the strip and tried out a few bars. D Club has some real pretty girls who are also pretty friendly. The mama there works pretty hard to get you to hook up with the girls at least for a drink. I picked a real cute one to sit with me. Same for my friends. But Friend2 didn't feel the right chemistry with his truly cute one and decided to head for Brown Sugar. Both me and Friend1 stayed a little longer with our own cuties. Both of them were interested in coming with us, but they also made it clear they don't do blowjobs. Somehow that sort of dampened our interest. We left the place a while later.

We then met up with Friend2 at Brown Sugar. The mama here is a very hardworking lady. By now both my friends were really in the swing of things. I mean they were no longer the same guys who had started the trip with me. Friend2 became even pal-y with the mama and started buying her and some others lady drinks. Then both Friend1 and 2 for some reason decided to pick a couple of real plump chicks. The majority of the bar girls are very slim with many positivly under-nourished. Yet this 2 jokers ended uip picking a couple of real heavyweights. Well, to each is own I suppose.

Me? I too was much emboldened after 2 nights. When the mama kept bringing girls to me to select I had no problems rejecting. Of course she was trying to push me only distinctly average ones! She then brought me another cute demure thing. I was smitten. But, I immediatlely enquired through the mama whether she would do bj. And right before me the mama posed this question to her and she said okay. So I said okay to her and paid the barfine of P1350. By then my friends and arranged with their girls to go swimming at the hotel pool. When my girl heard this she too went to get her swimming costume.

So, we immediately made it back to our rooms and changed into our swimming gear. By the time me and my girl came down to the pool Friend1 was already down with his girl. And he had persuaded her to remove her bikini top. Friend2 then came with his girl and we had a great time in the pool at midnight. Unbelievable fun! I'm glad I took up the advice of some forummers and booked a hotel with a pool.

We then broke up and went to our respective rooms. My night session with my girl was good. And yes, she did give me a decent bj, both at night and the next morning. Again it was a nice gfe experince with her clinging to me the whole night. I had also to tell her to leave the next morning about 10 as I had other plans. I gave her a P500 tip. She was worth it.

to be continued...

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Thanks for the interesting posts Konaman.

How did you get to Subic, and why did you dislike it?

Pool? So, what hotel were you at? Was there no closing time for the pool?

You gotta love those 24 hour pools!

X

Hi,
nice report Konaman..not sure about Thailand, but in ac some bars prefer koreans LOL...but I dont care about that also, since its low season now and bars are empty..

The good thing in AC is, never give up, there are many places to explore and things can change evry day..One day, one bar sucks, you go there the next day and you find many gurls of your li(c)king :D

My previous experience from last weekend...I went to Viper club or bar, not sure if thats the name, it belongs to Bourbon street which is just beside..

I know the guy who is papa san there now from other joints , so I went in for a beer or 2..

Spot allready a cute sexy doorgurl, pretty face and pretty slim body..when enterd the joint a sexy dancer gurl caught my attention, Slim, 5"6 and cute ass :D..infact a very good ass...

I ordered drinks for her and she told me straight she lost her cherry 3 weeks ago from a guy she doesnt liked much...I wonder why all the gurls get f..d by guys they dont like, lose their cherry by guys they dont like...Nice bullshit ehehehe....she offered me short time but I told her I wanted all night and she accept...Now we txting and Im consider her to take her to subic next weekend. She has the smoothest skin I ever experienced..not much tits but in the ass department which I personally like very much, she is a straight 10...

The last time I went to Viper was 5 years ago..so things can change and evry day there is a new day ..


Blink out

[QUOTE=Blink157]I wonder why all the gurls get f..d by guys they dont like, lose their cherry by guys they dont like...[/QUOTE]Money Talks. She obviously found an acceptable price for something she could part with.

[quote=konaman]well, i too have just returned from 5 nights at angeles. and i am still recovering...!

some of us newbies have been slagged off by the vets here for taking all the info available here and not returning anything, so, i shall pen a small report on my take of angeles city.

first off let me state a little background info. i'm an asian of indian origin from singapore who travelled with two others of similar origin. myself and friend1 have been to angeles city back in 1984 when we were in our early 20s. i'm now 48, friend1 is 50 and friend2 ( a real newbie to the philippines) is 55.

before our trip one of our concern was how we would be received by the bars and the girls. our early years mongering was always in thailand as it is much nearer to singapore. and i had seen thailand change so much over the years in this respect. i stopped mongering in thailand altogether in 1992 when i was denied entry to every single groundfloor bar in patpong only because of the colour of my skin. thailand has become a white man's near exclusive play area. i did make subsequent trips to phuket, pattaya and bangkok and, while the racism is not as obvious, its still there. i did not even bother with the bars in pattaya, places which had given me some great pleasures in early years...

coming back to topic, we stayed all 5 nights at pacific breeze. a great hotel in a great location. and the front desk constantly manned by a bevy of beauties. pity they were not available, at least not to us!

now much has been said about "blowrow" and i was really interested in checking out these unique establishments. but it was a total let-down. as far as i could see there were only 3 bars still around - black pearl, honktonk and gobbles. in fact it is a misnomer to even describe the black pearl and gobbles as "bars". all 3 are basically dumps with the ambience of a junkyard. and there are no girls there, only matrons in whom you would be a very brave man to stick your precious tool in. still, on our first day we tried to actually sit and have a beer at black pearl and gobbles. the "ladies" at black pearl entirely ignored us, imagine what that did to our confidence.. but surprisingly friend1, who had retired from such activities for the past 20 years, took a fancy to one fat lady who was hitting on him at gobbles and took her back to his room. this left friend2 and me totally stunned!

now let me speed up things a bit...

1st night. we walked around fields a bit. the door girls at the bars didn't seem too eager to welcome us. we tried a couple of bars. after the initial orders we were left alone. and one of the bars had the worst collection of girls i had ever seen. oh dear...[/quote]

i am sorry but i find it hard to believe you where turned away in thailand. thai girls and thai people in general have got to be the most money hungry pieces of work i have seen. second filipinas for the most part are shy if they don't show interest that doesn't necessarily mean she is not interested. i am late 20s black guy and when i was in angeles i was beckoned to come in all clubs i passed. some times dragged down the street. in los its even worse. my problem was i kept comparing the two places los and pi and thats what led to me not enjoying ac that much. that being said angeles is still a great place.

[quote=dcand4]i heard that champayne bar got closed do to not having proper license for one of the girls. anyone know about this? of course i am interested for this is one of my favorite hangouts.[/quote]there have been a series of "inspections" done by the barangay in ac in the past two weeks or so (this only applies to fields ave as perimeter is located in a different barangay even though it is only a short distance from fields).

the reason behind these "inspections" are they are trying to extort money from the bars by telling the bars that in order for the girls to work in the bars they must have a barangay clearance certificate (which costs p50, not a lot of money to a foreigner, but to the girls it is). at first many of the bars said no to paying for this, but once the "inspections" started the bars changed their minds rather quickly and either the bar or the girls paid the extortion fee to get the clearance certificate from the barangay. (i call/term it extortion because my reading and interpretation of the law with regards to this issue is that it is illegal for the barangay to "require" this and as supporting evidence of its legality, acta (angeles city tourist authority) is also having their legal council look into this matter.

what generally has happened to cause a closure is that they barangay and his cronies go to a bar and ask the bar to produce the "proper" paperwork for all of their girls (meaning they want to see the barangay clearance certificates) if they fail to produce the certificates (which most bars did not originally have) they threatened to close down the bar. the threats were null and void as anytime any type of "authority" figure visits a bar, the girls of the bar rep001ter and leave and in most cases do not return that night (the reasoning of this is [i'm quoting/summarizing from a girl who works in an ac bar and has previously experienced a "raid" or "inspection"] is that they are scared of what will happen as the girls who have had the traumatic experience before have informed to the others what they have experienced and the other girls who have been lucky enough to never have experienced it are determined to not experience it, thus they rep001ter when "authorities" visit. so the bottom line is that it is really not the barangay closing the bar, but rather the bar choosing to close themselves for the night as they usually have no girls (or in a rare instance, very very few girls) that are still there to work for the rest of the night.

there are other "authorities" that are currently present in ac that some feel are alarm for concern i will post about this in a separate/new thread.

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The new AC is alive and well, at least for the corrupt "authorities". One of these groups, known as the "jojo" group. They have been for weeks now after the bars with some ridiculous demands. They are currently demanding that the bars (and all foreign owned businesses) pay P3 MILLION per month and no receipts will be given. The "jojo" group states that failure to pay the P3 MILLION will result in bars being raided and shutdown.

Prior to this DEMAND, the "jojo" group wanted the following:

1. All establishments to pay 10% on all EWR's.
2. All establishments to pay 10% of all Ladies Drinks.
3. All establishments to pay P5 on all Customer drinks.
4. All establishments to pay P5,000 in addition per month.

Of course the bars told them where to stick this DEMAND

This is the same group that hiked the hygiene fee and still no receipts have been issued with the higher price on them, still the old number/figure is given (if it is given at all).

On many other websites, this information can be verified, so I stand behind this post.

Does this mean there is cause for concern? That is not for me to determine, it is (imo) and should be a determination that each individual should make for themselves. I will say that the next few weeks should tell a lot about what will happen or the direction that AC is headed towards.

Hi,

Was this fella wearing a RED jersey?

On independence day right?

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,

yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...

Think[/QUOTE]

Was the guy wearing a red jersey?

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,

yesterday I witnessed about an US guy, propbl Marine, was handcuffed and taken into custody from those yellow dressed Brgy cops, which I saw the first time in fields. This happens infront of Atlantis around 9pm when I was on my national day evening barhop.

However I didnt arrived when it started. All I can say the young guy was involved in some trouble with locals.He pointed to them that they start the fight. He was a quite tall guy, 6 foot something and trained. He was forced to stand on their car and súrrouned by those yellow brgy cops holding sticks in their hand. Papasan of atlantis made some pictures and told me its harrasam. Cops looked quite angry and tackled the guy allways, pushed him against the car and provocate him. At this time he shout he is american and he need help and he dont want trouble. Another guy next to me had allready another opinion on this, he told me the Guy (us) was an asshole and was taken down now, he would do it himself but he was to big for him..

This all came to an end when they guys tackled and provocted him again, he wanted to free himself punshed some guys but then was handcuffed from "10 guys" taken into the car and brought somewhere...Cops arrived later , questioned somebody for a minute and hurried up to chase the car. I wasnt quite sure what was all about this. Cops were cheered by the crowd..The brgy cops were very agressive and Im sure if I would interfere I would be taken also just for showing up and question all this...

Of course there are many ass...les in AC and I met a new assh..le evry day, question is , you dont have to shoot them....happend recently with a barowner, neither if they admit their mistakes you dont need to harrass them, punsh them or do other things.

The inicident left a bitter taste on me. I was thinking if I run into trouble, nobody would help me also, cause Im just a fuc..n foreigner with no rights, just to spend money here and even that would put me in trouble.

Thats one reason I dont live in AC and after this I realized in what world we living. Philippines is a fu..ckn police state...

Not sure wht happen to the guy...mabe we can read it later somewhere...

Blink[/QUOTE]

Let me just continue with my report before I lose it. Given my age hope you understand.

4th Night. Well today was again a day of rest. Joined my friends about 11-ish after sending my girl back. Friend2 was returning early to Singapore to catch a flight to Perth. That left just the 2 of us.

After lunch and some rest we headed towards Perimeter to check out the action there. Walked up to ABC Hotel and checked out the hotel. Nice. Didn't see much beyond so decided to backtrack. Stopped for a haircut (S$2. 40 ha! )before stopping at this small bar at about 5. Edelweiss. Only about 6 dancers, some ok, some really not ok. By now we had developed a modus of walking in to a bar, making a quick check of the goods and beating a hasty retreat if the scene was not promising. We would have done the same here. But what made us stay was the sudden switch to Indian music. This was the absolute first time and we decided to have a drink and enjoy the music. Of course we the only 2 guys at the bar.

As we sat drinking our beer talking to the mama, I spotted this cute little number with a black dot on her forehead. I don't know how many of you guys have heard of Aishwarya Rai, the former Miss World and present Indian Bollywood actress. She has also acted in a few English movies. Well there was this girl in this small bar along Perimeter Rd who bore a striking resemblance to her! The sooner I pointed this out to my friend, he bought her a drink and got her beside him, the bugger.

Just then the mama brought another girl, not in bikini but in jeans and t-shirt to me. She said that this girl was the other girl's sister. At first I thought yeah, right. But then I looked closer and I could see the resemblance as well.

Would you believe it, 2 sisters who looked like a former Miss World and we had them for company. With our kind of music to boot! Unbelievable.

My friend wanted to barfine his girl (younger sister) but she claimed that she was having menses. The poor guy, without the benefit of the info on this forum actually believed her. For me, I was just contented to enjoy the scene.

And it was a pretty good scene. Younger sister was really wild one. She made all the noise, was pretty showy. At one stage she took off her top, poured her drink on her tit and made my friend lick it off. Seeing me watch, she treated me to a drink on her other tit. Wild! Not to be outdone, elder sister then went on the bartop and started dancing in her jeans. For added titilation she too lifted up her top to give us a good look. And boy could she move. We stayed there about 2 hours and only left when more people started coming in. The rest of the night was pretty uneventful compared to Edelweiss.

Well, now to answser some questions. I stayed at the Pacific Breeze. Great hotel, great pool. And yes, its open through the night, I believe. We swam after midnight. My friend swam after 2am on the last night.

Subic. We only went to the bay where the beach is poor. Very little attraction. Had lunch at an expensive seafood restaurant where the food was average and the service the worst I've experienced in the Philippines. But there was a frisbee competion on and the girls in the bikinis looked good. If you could avoid looking at the unfriendly looking hunks that is.

We went to Subic by a long route. Jeepney to local bus station, waited in vain for 1. 5 hrs for the local express, gave up, took another jeepney to San Fernando, caught a private van to Olangopo, then jeepney to Subic. Unbelievably hot weather. Negotiated and got a private to bring us back to AC. Won't do it again, if ever.

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The June newsletter is now available at

[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/jun08/[/url].

Updates on Ray Kelly shooting, extortions mentioned in earlier posts, reports and photos of bars (nice pics of scantily dressed girls), and the Doll House raid.

Slim

Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

Devo

[QUOTE=Vibrations]Was the guy wearing a red jersey?[/QUOTE]
Hi,
no he didnt. if you refer to the us guy, he was a 6 footer, wearing a black t shirt..normal haircut and if my GF was here, she would say he very hunsum :D

So, a young guy, propbly now with less cash in his pocket cause Im sure he had tobuy his way out of trouble....

regards

Blink

PS yes on the PI independence day/Monday

Hi,
nice report Acfreddy, but corruption is normal in the Phils and thats Pi style how to get money out of the foreigners...and to think about how to get money out of them..
Seems to be that the golden years are over and bars have to pay the price now...on my last visit this weekend I found fields quite empty...but that doesnt prevent me from barfine a nice gurl there and we will go to subic next weekend...
Of course Im also mad if those assxxles and whatever their name is behave like this..Maybe they want to milk the cow until no more milk is left.

I suggest move the bars to Olangapo LOL, or maybe La union..so koreans can buy expensive drinks for the gurls and can still sing in their karaoke joints in friendship and pay the cops over there :D and the rest of the 3000 gurls can entertain us where "authorities" maybe not too greedy for the start and welcome the new dollar /euro flow and bars can make up and earn again..

Of course the new built hi way to AC would be useless, cause nobody wants to go there LOL and when arriving at the PI NAia I seldem spot any "families or couples" arriving there...So , lets face it guys....Philippines missed the big grow after the 1980...Ermita was shot down by this chinese Idiot Lim who caused billions of dollars which now flow into Thailand and other asian locations.......Enough aint enough...if you give money to them its never enough...I ask my ex pampangan GF once..she says , yes , its not enough its never enough cause you foreigners have many money and thats why its never enough, we want allways more..


Anyway, I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom....I dont need AC, dont need bars, dont need gurls....BUT THEY NEED ME!!


Happy day to all

Blink

[QUOTE=Blink157]I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom....I dont need AC, dont need bars, dont need gurls....BUT THEY NEED ME!![/QUOTE]
Well said, I also enjoy AC every time, but if the greedy guys ruin it,
I don't care, enough other places in SEA available and waiting for money.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Devoman]Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

Devo[/QUOTE]You could try using Tiger Airways who fly from Macau to Clark. It is a lot easier than it first sounds and is my preffered route. From Hong Kong you can remain airside without going through immigration and catch the special bus down to the ferry terminal. 5 mins. Then the ferry goes to Macau. 45mins. Taxi from Macau ferry port to Macau airport. 5 mins. Piece of cake.

I guess it depends a bit on timing as Tiger, I think only have one or two flights a day. If the timings right I think it's by far the easiest and cheapest way to get from Hong Kong to Clark.

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,

Nice report Acfreddy, but corruption is normal in the Phils and thats Pi style how to get money out of the foreigners. And to think about how to get money out of them. Seems to be that the golden years are over and bars have to pay the price now. On my last visit this weekend I found fields quite empty. But that doesnt prevent me from barfine a nice gurl there and we will go to subic next weekend. Of course I'm also mad if those assxxles and whatever their name is behave like this. Maybe they want to milk the cow until no more milk is left.

I suggest move the bars to Olangapo LOL, or maybe La union. So koreans can buy expensive drinks for the gurls and can still sing in their karaoke joints in friendship and pay the cops over there: D and the rest of the 3000 gurls can entertain us where "authorities" maybe not too greedy for the start and welcome the new dollar /euro flow and bars can make up and earn again.

Of course the new built Hi way to AC would be useless, cause nobody wants to go there LOL and when arriving at the PI NAia I seldem spot any "families or couples" arriving there. So, lets face it guys. Philippines missed the big grow after the 1980. Ermita was shot down by this Chinese Idiot Lim who caused billions of dollars which now flow into Thailand and other asian locations. Enough aint enough. If you give money to them its never enough. I ask my ex pampangan GF once. She says, yes, its not enough its never enough cause you foreigners have many money and thats why its never enough, we want allways more.

Anyway, I will enjoy AC until its last and because I live here I have enough pussy to get into my bedroom. I don't need AC, don't need bars, don't need gurls. BUT THEY NEED ME!

Happy day to all

Blink[/QUOTE]Yes it is the usual style for the AC, but it has just gotten worse and worse and worse over the past few months. They "extortionists and "jojo" group are seemingly going to milk the bars until there are no more bars. Classic case of what I term to be Filipinoitis (which is where they take a knowingly loaded gun, point it at their feet, pull the trigger, blow their foot off and then complain/***** to the entire world that it was not their fault). I understand that they live and think for the second with no consideration for the future whatsoever, but the potential is certainly there for many to lose their "playground" and that imo just sucks.

I agree and like your suggestion and there are many bars that are seriously considering moving operations to that area (subic and surrounding areas). There are also a few newer bars in that same area and I expect that there will continue to be more new bars opening there in the future as well. Not as many as in AC, but certainly more than there currently are now.

Excellent example of the local pamangan thinking/logic. It is so very true that they think and live their lives like this.

I am in the same boat as you, I live here as well and the bars certainly need me more than I need them. I have my favorites and those bars have earned it by treating me right the first time and every time since then that I visit them.

Like it or not the new AC is vastly different than just a years ago and all sings point to that it will continue on this (imo) downward trend, but there are other places in SEA to go to and/or live in, so all is not lost.

Devoman, on my recent trip I used Cebu Pacific for one return trip domestically, not internationally.

It was within 10 minutes of schedule on both legs. Perfectly adequate.

However if you look at the blogs at [url]www.tripadvisor.co.uk[/url], under 'Philippines', there are some negative comments about late running on occasion.

The airline's fares seem generally quite cheap and I have never had a problem, but take the time to read these blogs to see if you agree with me.

Nobody flies from HKG to CRK at this time. From HKG you must fly to MNL then take a bus or taxi for the 2 hour (or so) ride to Angeles.

Cebu Pacific is OK; yes delays are not unusual but the bigger hassle is buying a ticket outside the country. US or UK credit cards will not work on their website so you must call (Manila or Cebu so not cheap) and expect long hold times. They do not interline baggage either.

Check out PAL and if the price is not much different (sometimes there is no difference in cost, other times it is a big difference), take PAL instead. Both have 3 flights a day.

OasisHongKong used to fly the route, and may still, but getting tickets or info online has proved impossible.

[QUOTE=Notanocker]Devoman, on my recent trip I used Cebu Pacific for one return trip domestically, not internationally.

It was within 10 minutes of schedule on both legs. Perfectly adequate.

However if you look at the blogs at [url]www.tripadvisor.co.uk[/url], under 'Philippines', there are some negative comments about late running on occasion.

The airline's fares seem generally quite cheap and I have never had a problem, but take the time to read these blogs to see if you agree with me.[/QUOTE]I use them domestically all the time. Yes there are departure delays but other domestics flying out of Manila airport for instance suffer these delays also. I dont have a problem with their service or aircraft & their prices are very good if you book well ahead.
AV

[QUOTE=Nvslim]The June newsletter is now available at

[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/jun08/[/url].

Updates on Ray Kelly shooting, extortions mentioned in earlier posts, reports and photos of bars (nice pics of scantily dressed girls), and the Doll House raid.

Slim[/QUOTE]Robbery I take in my stride but killing expats (gruesomely) is a big worry for me. Don't think I wanna ever make a home in Pampanga..
AV

Hi,
yes acfreddy they not much keen :D

Some examples of encounters I had recently.

in a hotel in subic

Me: Do you have also rooms with bayview where I can see the beach?
rumboy: Sir, if you want to see the beach you go there and you can see it

Me: Do you have wifi access in the lobby?
frontdesk: No, sorry we dont have
Me: whats that? (pointing at the blue wifi box)
frontdesk: Thats internet sir


I swear to god that really happend in a newly built hotel in Subic..Hint...they run also 2 hotels in AC :D

If you spend ur dollars on building the thing you have to safe up some money , just dont safe it on the staff LOL

With Subic nearby I will just take the gurls to SUbic from Ac and have a good time there. I dont wana deal on my precious weekends with "stupid authorities" Im there to relax and have fun and if that wont work any more I will just go somewhere else..As I have mentioned before, I dont need AC to get laid :D..but AC needs ME and MORE TOURISTS or it will just get LAID OFF..
which means you guys can switch back to plant rice fields, sell your cars and buy more calabao and chicken cause Why the fxxck a foreigner should go to AC if there aint no playground any more..is there any beach???...no...anything worth seeing and visiting?...no

Anyway, looking forward to go there tomrow, get drunk, get laid and then go to subic with whatever gurl suites me :D

Happy days

Blink

Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed. I've made over ten attempts (I've lost count), all were declined. My bank (Wells Fargo) says it isn't them. They have recieved no requests from the Cebu Pacific Web Site attempts. I called Cebu Pacific and the rep made an attempt and that was declined. I've called Wells Fargo more times than I care to admit. I did get them to tell me that attempts to charge my card had hit the incredibly awful "Verified by Visa (VBV)" system twice but that those attempted purchases which were approved by VBV never came into the Wells Fargo system. My bank also told me that the requests that hit Verified by Visa were for $3700 vs 3700 Baht ($112). (Even at $3700, my bank says the purchase would not have been declined.

The air tickets I want to purchase on Cebu Pacific's site are at a great price compared to everything else I've scene on the web. For example, the one I have been trying to make from BKK to Manila is only the $112 noted above. Nothing else I have found is even close. I did find another site that offered tickets for Cebu Pacific, the same flight was $50 US more; but still a good deal. They got declined also and the hit on VBV was approved for $4200 US.

Needless to say I'm a bit upset that I can't make this and the other purchases from Cebu Pacific that I require.

After two weeks of attempts at dealing with Cebu Pacific and my bank, I've been left no alternative but to -- drink

I have heard that online purchases from Phillipine vendors are on some sort of hot list. I've made other purchases from other international airlines for this upcoming trip that have not had this problem (e.g., Royal Jordanian Airlines).

I'm looking for a work around. I tried finding a US travel agency that deals with Cebu Pacific reservations. I think that this could be a solution to my problem, but I can't find one.

Help Please!

N1

PS. I am posting this request for help on another site. Sorry, I'm getting...

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed. I've made over ten attempts ...[/QUOTE]I live in Taiwan and went through this recently also. Apparently, for some reason or another, the Cebu Pacific site cannot process charges on US-issued cards. Not sure why, but it is widely recognized among expats here and has been an issue for a couple years. My suspicion is that US cards have had to deal with too much fraud out of Phils, and just don't want to deal with small internet charges from a Phil origin. Or they are charging Phil orgins with extra fees to cover fraud protection, and CP just refuses? (I was using Citibank Visa, and when I called Citibank's call center in Phils, they swore up and down that they would accept the charge and shouldn't be an issue. Still, the CP website couldn't process ...)

I went to my local Cebu Pacific office and paid cash for my ticket - but had to pay an additional, significant charge for the privilege!

I was also told that a best option is to get a card issued in Taiwan, and then book my tickets online with that. Haven't gone that route yet, but you get the point.

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]Nobody flies from HKG to CRK at this time. From HKG you must fly to MNL then take a bus or taxi for the 2 hour (or so) ride to Angeles.[/quote]
Clarke schedule I've found here.
[url]http://www.visitclark.com/flights/showsched.asp[/url]
But be aware it's Oct 2007, so 9 months old.
[quote]OasisHongKong used to fly the route, and may still, but getting tickets or info online has proved impossible.[/QUOTE]
Huh? Oasis Hongkong is long time bankrupt.
They don't take off anymore.

Huh? I thought you lived there six months out of the year?

[QUOTE=Amavida]Robbery I take in my stride but killing expats (gruesomely) is a big worry for me. Don't think I wanna ever make a home in Pampanga..
AV[/QUOTE]

I had the same problem last December with them also. You were lucky to get a company rep to help you. I tried many times but to no avail. Since I had a friend from Bangkok, I had her get me some tickets at an agent in Bangkok. I had to Western Union money to her, and then the trouble of her taking the time to get them. You could try and get a travel rep I guess from Bangkok or Manila to get the tickets for you. It seems they should have straightened things out by now. It worked fine 2 years ago. I had sent them numerous e-mails complaining, and you think enough Americans would also complain over time. Then again, the Philippine way of during things. Fucked up as normal. After I made a trip to their ticket office in Manila, things were so screwed up there. I was able to use an American credit card at their office with no problem, so it has to do with the internet payment process.

Purchasing on the internet is really hassle free, but I said. F--it. And ended up going Philippine Air from Bangkok to Manila. They had better times to depart and arrive, and it was about $50 more. Cebu Pacific has some great prices, but the international times to fly really suck. All pretty much red eye flights except ones going to Hong Kong.

Cebu won't take cards from UK either. Or is it the other way round!

[QUOTE=Devoman]Hi guys,

I am planning a trip to Angeles City and need some advice. I was thinking of flying from Hong Kong directly to Clark using Cebu Air. I have been told that this could be a bad idea as Cebu Air is notoriously late and unreliable.

I don't want to miss my connection in Hong Kong so this concerns me. Does anyone have any info on Cebu Air, or travel from AC to HK? I greatly appreciate any advice provided.

Devo[/QUOTE]If you want to fly to AC from HK, the cheapest and best way is to take the boat to Macau, then take Tiger Airways directly to Clark. The return ticket is less than 1K HK dollars. I have booked mine already for next week and it was 862 Hk$ incl tax. Very cheap.

Even tickets bought on PAL.com often trigger fraud blocks by cc issues, but you can get around that by calling your cc issuer. However, before you can fly you must go IN PERSON to a PAL office to show the cc used. My friend left the cc at home and had to buy a whole new ticket (full fare of course) and is still awaiting the refund of the original ticket.

By calling OR going to ticket office, I never had a problem using my credit card for Cebu Pacific. Trouble is LOTS of waiting.

If you have a friend in PI you trust, have them buy it (they do eticketing BUT not good about emailing and to enter airport you need a printout).

My suggestion to the guy having such difficulty is to find a travel agent IN THE PI (few/any foreign travel agents will sell CP tickets). They will charge about $10 service fee, and if you want a refund or want to change it you must go through the travel agent.

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]My suggestion .. is to find a travel agent IN THE PI (few/any foreign travel agents will sell CP tickets). They will charge about $10 service fee, and if you want a refund or want to change it you must go through the travel agent.[/QUOTE]Nice. In theory. Beeline Travel told me the airlines don't let them buy tickets that don't originate in Phils.

Guys it depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not when booking a flight with say Cebu Pacific for example.

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE AIRLINE.

One VISA card will be refused where another VISA will not. Same for Mastercard.

I use a platinum VISA Issued by Citibank & covered by insurance. It is never refused. Other VISA & MASTERCARDS that I have, issued by Australian Banks, are often refused.

It depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not.

AV

I used a Barclays Bank Mastercard to purchase an incredibly cheap ($192) roundtrip ticket between Manilla and Bangkok on Cebu Pacific's web site and had no problems whatsoever. My flights are in November, however, and I guess there is still plenty of time for something to go wrong!

[QUOTE=X Man]Huh? I thought you lived there six months out of the year?[/QUOTE]Hello X, you're not keeping up mate! As of January I live here in PP (Pussy Paradise) full time. p.s. here's another pic of me for you to deface... could you use a green crayon this time?
AV

[QUOTE=Nuevo]Online attempts at booking on the Cebu Pacific web site have failed.[/QUOTE]Try dumbing your browser cache and rebooting. Sometimes the old transaction cookie will sit there until it is wiped off.

[QUOTE=Amavida]Guys it depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not when booking a flight with say Cebu Pacific for example.

IT IS NOT THE FAULT OF THE AIRLINE.

One VISA card will be refused where another VISA will not. Same for Mastercard.

I use a platinum VISA Issued by Citibank & covered by insurance. It is never refused. Other VISA & MASTERCARDS that I have, issued by Australian Banks, are often refused.

It depends on the ISSUING BANK of the Credit Card as to which is refused or not.

AV[/QUOTE]

Normally you're correct but it is Cebu Pacific's website that is the issue. It will take some credit cards from different countries but not others. It will take a credit card from China but not the United States, Canada, Australia etc. due too too much fraud from these countries. My friends have tried the Visa Verified and Mastercard Secure but it still doesn't go through. When they call Cebu Pacific, the representatives are not very helpful.

Congratulations on living in Philippines. Hopefully, you'll be posting some great field reports. Have you been anywhere other than AC?

I'll be visiting next month. Maybe we should get together, drink a few brews, and reminisce about all of our great exchanges at ISG. Maybe not...

You once told me you spent too much time in AC, sorry to have assumed that that is the place where you live.

Mate, you can't use a crayon to change a digital photgraph. Sorry to state the obvious.

note: AV is making a joke referring some posts made in the Filipinas thread where there was some antagonism after AV posted the private picture of an older gentleman who apparently is engaged to someone AV cares about. The original picture has since been removed.

X

[QUOTE=Amavida]Hello X, you're not keeping up mate! As of January I live here in PP (Pussy Paradise) full time. p.s. here's another pic of me for you to deface... could you use a green crayon this time?
AV[/QUOTE]

I am in Macau now. Tommorow, I will be flying to AC with Tiger Air.

I have flown out of HK previously. Macau is the better of the two places, most things are cheaper, such as food, transporation, internet, etc.. if you have to stay for a few days to catch your flight.

Small hotels expect to pay 250 to 300 HK dollars at least. Guest houses: 120 to 200 HK dollars.

There are plenty of casinos to keep gamblers busy --- casinos offer free drinks and some even have lounges where you can use the internet for free, such as ther Lisboa Casino top floor.

My ticket to AC from Macau was about 800 or 900 HK dollars. You can buy directly at the airport (11pm to 3pm) or through a travel agent/internet cafes, especially those located where the filipinos live and work.

If anybody needs exact information, send me a PM.

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin]Have you or any other ISG member ever flown Tiger ?
I would really like to save the money, but I am concered about this Carrier. Can you or anyone give some info on Service and Equipment.[/QUOTE]
Yes I have flown Tiger and I would highly recommend them!
All new equipment and the service is probably the best amongst the discount carriers because they are owned by Singapore Airlines.

[QUOTE=X Man]You once told me you spent too much time in AC...[/QUOTE]
Yes he visited one time and now he thinks he is an expert! :o

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin][QUOTE=Mattrick]


Glad to hear this, I believe I will give it a try .
I will land in HKG for two-nites and come to Macau by Ferry . Is the airport far from Ferry ?
Anymore recommendations are appreciated.
What would you guys do for one day and nite in Macau before I leavr for Mecca!
I have NO interest in Gambling. My main interest is what we all have in common and a little site seeing.Thanks HUSKY[/QUOTE]

Macau has it's own thread, you could start there for ideas of things to do.

You can get the ferry from the airport.

[QUOTE=Bob Down][QUOTE=Husky Babalin]

Macau has it's own thread, you could start there for ideas of things to do.[/QUOTE]

I arrived in Manila and met some fellow mongers at the airport and hitched a ride with them. They had the Hotel Amsterdam van waiting for them. Willy, the driver was pretty cool. He stops when you need him to for whatever. We ate at KFC and got some San Mig for the road. Beware of the ride to AC. It’s only about 50 km, but Manila traffic is ruthless, and the airport happens to be on the other side of the city (south side)so it takes about an hour just to leave the urban sprawl. At the airport, I changed 360 USD at the booth all the way at the end. They usually give the best rates because they are out of the way. I got about 15, 000 pesos. Don’t change all your money at once. Use ATMs. The ones near Fields Ave give out 10, 000 pesos at once. The out of the way ones tend to stop you at around 5000. I learnt this the hard way in Subic where I tried about 8 before I finally found an ATM that would spit out money for my US issed Mastercard ATM. There is also one at SM Mall that takes (gasp) American Express. Beware of the Visa only ATM next to Jollebee. That walk in the 33 degree C heat was pretty self-critiquing.

I ended up staying at 3 hotels for various reasons that I will not discuss to protect the guilty. I will, however, tell you about my experience.

Swiss Chalet. Friendly staff. Almert and Ming at the front desk are pretty cool, Bong the afternoon door attendant, and the night security guard all come to mind that went out of their way to help. Pretty girl friendly, they sign the girls in and out after a certain hour to protect you. It’s a pretty small place, but the rooms were a good size, with a fridge, minibar with chocolate, water, beer, wine, etc. Internet signal in the room, but the connection was pretty sluggish and annoying. The bed did its job for business, if you get my drift. The best bathrooms out of any place I stayed. Restaurant was ok, the waitresses are real cool though. I also loved the location. Right behind Blow Row (yuck, I tried it out once, 600 pesos is unbelievable, but the girls reflect it. I think I could see HIV in some of those girls faces) next to Crystal Palace and Tropix, Las Vegas is around the corner for quick shows. I think my favorite thing was the safe in the room.

After a week, I stayed in Clarkton. The Deluxe room. Mirror was cool, but it was mounted too high so I couldn’t really see myself fucking. It was relatively clean, but it was beat down and old with a musty smell. Nothing special. I paid 1800 pesos a night. Best minibar though.

America Hotel is for the budget minded traveler. Rooms are like 1000 pesos. I got the 1200 peso room with the fridge and minibar. It is huuuuuge! I could fit a Filipino family in here. It is a very old hotel though, rooms look real beat up, stuff is leaking, the clock is broke, the bathtub is cracked, towels are ripped, ants everywhere, etc. But hey, you get a pool, a balcony, an awesome mirror and a place to bang! I will give the staff one thing though, everytime a girl comes in or out the are very aggressive about making sure that you are ok with it, so if you like security in that manner, this hotel is for you. I did not like the fact that there were no safes. I hated having to stop at the front desk and wait for the girls to give me my stuff every time. They are also very pushy about paying every day. Swiss Chalet only requires you to pay when you reach 15, 000 pesos. One thing that pisses me off still is the fact that they did not have an iron. I’ve never been to a hotel without an iron at the front desk. It still irks me.

Ok, enough about hotels, I’ll talk about my "bar-hopping" experience, as the locals like to call it.

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Get a cell phone! Buy a Globe or Smart SIM and pre-program your Yahoo Messenger in a text/SMS template folder in your phone, because if you are proactive you will text your number and YM to every girl you meet. Don't be like me and get drunk and leave your phone in a trike and have to start from scratch, however.

Talk to your fellow mongers! Too many unfriendly fellows here, I had a smile on my face the whole time for obvious reasons. You are here to have fun! Do it!

I met some cool folks from India, Malaysia, NZ, and USA doing the same things as me. It's interesting talking to guys, I found out about happy hours and shows that otherwise I would have been in the dark for.

I also built a relationship with some of the folks at my hotels, so they looked out for me, went the extra mile, and even introduced me to their young, beautiful family members and friends. A housekeeper at one of my hotels even introduced me to her daughter because she thought I was a nice guy!

AC Map dot Com. Study it! Bookmark it! All the bars are on there.

I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details because I don’t remember. 11 days in this place all runs into each other. I’m going to tell you though, in my experience, how a 23 year old kid found some fun.

I know everybody has different preferences, but stay away from the Doll House type establishments the first couple of days you are there. Go with a girl if you want to check out the cool shows and painting or whatnot. It’s the wrong type of atmosphere for new guys. You can tell the type of place by looking at the bell ringing price (not that I recommend that) and LD price. If the bell is over 4000 pesos and ladies drinks are over 100, then you need to head somewhere else. Perhaps out to Perimeter Road.

Perimeter bars are a friendlier atmosphere, cheaper, and less crowded. IMO the girls generally look the same to me depending on the bar as the Fields institutions. One thing you have to be careful about is going there late. A lot of girls disappear. I chased this one slender hottie three nights in a row at Foxy bar and gave up because she got BFed early each night. Around midnight you need to head over to Fields. I recommend Champagne, Typhoon (take the tequila girl home, their outfit is just so hot) Welcome Inn (there are a couple of girls that will suck your dick during the daytime there if there is nobody is looking if you’re nice to them). Alaska because the girls dance in regular thongs. Pretty seedy place. Edelweiss is good fun, few girls, but very energetic. Another place I recommend is Emotions, the girls there are really fun, I got a BBBJ by 4 girls for the price of an LD. One girl had a blanket so that made it ok. Hahah Allan, the guy that runs the two bars there also likes to hand out shots.

I recommend the new bar in the Tartz building, next to Roadies and Lost in Asia. Owned by a Scottish dude, beautiful girls in awesome red bikinis. Check it out.

About the girls. It seems like at the bars there are an equal amount of waitresses as dancers. All are up for grabs, including the door girls, and probably even mamasan if you want. Heh. I found a lot of the waitresses more attractive than the dancers a lot of times, but whatever floats your balls.

First, LOOK AT THEIR ID. If you see a red V on the right side, she is a cherry girl. Don’t even waste your time with that.

The biggest piece of advice I can give you, is build rapport with the bar. If your waitress is cool, buy her an LD and they usually are pretty helpful in your selection. If you’re really having trouble, find a cool mamasan and buy her a drink and get her to work for you. But that is last resort, as the waitresses are the same age as the dancers so usually they are good friends and know which girls are willing to explore. In Champagne for example I found a group of waitresses that specialized in girl shows! There are some good adventures to be found that you would have not known if you didn’t ask.

This goes without saying, but NEGOTIATE WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN YOUR ROOM BEFORE BF. Slim chance, but worse case you will get a girl that won’t get to business because you didn’t ask beforehand. This goes for BFing more than one as well. You may end up taking them one at a time, no DATY while the other waits if you do that without negotiating.

Last, smile and have a good time about it, don’t treat it like a business transaction, your experience will improve. Give her some change for a trike when you’re done.

BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD

Last but not least, I spent like 11-12 days in AC and only paid 3 bar fines, but fucked way more women than that. Lots of free pussy everywhere. 7-11, Chow King, SM Mall, the street (beware of the LB SWers though, unless that is your thing), your hotel front desk, The Earth is your playing ground. I especially like Sky Trax and R&B bar. The woman to man ratio was about 3:1 everytime I went. I know the crowd here is older and many do not like this type of music, but I saw some old hairy foreigners hooking up with young girls there and dancing and grinding on them for free. You can’t beat that. I know a tactic that I used that worked really well was inviting the girls who said they enjoy dancing to hip hop music from the bar to Skytrax when they got off at 1am, then later on lead them to my room. I feel so guilty. No BF, no cash exchange, sometimes maybe I bought them a drink at the club. Heh

Enjoy

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Nice reports and some excellent information, I am on my way !!!

Cheers, F/Fifty

Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.

[QUOTE=Horntoad]Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]

50 pesos a pop is not going to kill you. :)

[QUOTE=FiveNinerZero]I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details.....[/QUOTE]

Great Report. Most of what you wrote I discovered to be true on my cherry trip in Jan 08.

[QUOTE=Horntoad]Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
You could carry an umbrella to save money ;)

Cheers, F/Fifty

[QUOTE=Husky Babalin][QUOTE=Mattrick]Yes I have flown Tiger and I would highly recommend them!

All new equipment and the service is probably the best amongst the discount carriers because they are owned by Singapore Airlines.

Glad to hear this, I believe I will give it a try.

I will land in HKG for two-nites and come to Macau by Ferry . Is the airport far from Ferry?

Anymore recommendations are appreciated.

What would you guys do for one day and nite in Macau before I leavr for Mecca!
I have NO interest in Gambling. My main interest is what we all have in common and a little site seeing.Thanks HUSKY[/QUOTE]Yo Husky, Tiger airways is great being its owned by Singapore Airlines as Mattrick said before. U dont get anything to eat or drink, beers cost about 5 Singapore dollars, i thinks that aprox 20 HKD. At least the flights only 1 1/2 hours straight into clark, beat flying direct to manila then another 2 hrs to get to AC.

The airport is 15 mins away from the ferry terminal in Macau, in a taxi it cost aprox 50HKD.

When are you going, 5 of us are going to AC on the 27th.

Hi to all,
after all this rain from the weekend a fast update from AC..

Management changes in bars...blue nile group kicked or swapped their papa sans. so dont be suprised of the new/old faces when you enter their bars...

Dollhouse has a back door entry to Crystal palace(Heartbreaker/pickupdisco) which means if you enter DH and have a beer, just go upstairs and take a look at Crystalpalace----one beer, 2 looks :D

When in Ac I realized many cops around bars, heavily armed..not sure if that should encourage me to enter the bars or discourage me to stay the fxxk away.
Well, I found out that when enter atlantis 2 days ago, 90% of the guys were asian..most be a holiday somewhere :D

Happy hunting

Blink

Thanks for a lot of useful tips. Will be making my first charge into the Phils sometime over the next few months and your posting will come in very handy. Cheers...

[QUOTE=FiveNinerZero]Get a cell phone! Buy a Globe or Smart SIM and pre-program your Yahoo Messenger in a text/SMS template folder in your phone, because if you are proactive you will text your number and YM to every girl you meet. Don't be like me and get drunk and leave your phone in a trike and have to start from scratch, however.

Talk to your fellow mongers! Too many unfriendly fellows here, I had a smile on my face the whole time for obvious reasons. You are here to have fun! Do it!

I met some cool folks from India, Malaysia, NZ, and USA doing the same things as me. It's interesting talking to guys, I found out about happy hours and shows that otherwise I would have been in the dark for.

I also built a relationship with some of the folks at my hotels, so they looked out for me, went the extra mile, and even introduced me to their young, beautiful family members and friends. A housekeeper at one of my hotels even introduced me to her daughter because she thought I was a nice guy!

AC Map dot Com. Study it! Bookmark it! All the bars are on there.

I’m going to skip the bullshit and day to day details because I don’t remember. 11 days in this place all runs into each other. I’m going to tell you though, in my experience, how a 23 year old kid found some fun.

I know everybody has different preferences, but stay away from the Doll House type establishments the first couple of days you are there. Go with a girl if you want to check out the cool shows and painting or whatnot. It’s the wrong type of atmosphere for new guys. You can tell the type of place by looking at the bell ringing price (not that I recommend that) and LD price. If the bell is over 4000 pesos and ladies drinks are over 100, then you need to head somewhere else. Perhaps out to Perimeter Road.

Perimeter bars are a friendlier atmosphere, cheaper, and less crowded. IMO the girls generally look the same to me depending on the bar as the Fields institutions. One thing you have to be careful about is going there late. A lot of girls disappear. I chased this one slender hottie three nights in a row at Foxy bar and gave up because she got BFed early each night. Around midnight you need to head over to Fields. I recommend Champagne, Typhoon (take the tequila girl home, their outfit is just so hot) Welcome Inn (there are a couple of girls that will suck your dick during the daytime there if there is nobody is looking if you’re nice to them). Alaska because the girls dance in regular thongs. Pretty seedy place. Edelweiss is good fun, few girls, but very energetic. Another place I recommend is Emotions, the girls there are really fun, I got a BBBJ by 4 girls for the price of an LD. One girl had a blanket so that made it ok. Hahah Allan, the guy that runs the two bars there also likes to hand out shots.

I recommend the new bar in the Tartz building, next to Roadies and Lost in Asia. Owned by a Scottish dude, beautiful girls in awesome red bikinis. Check it out.

About the girls. It seems like at the bars there are an equal amount of waitresses as dancers. All are up for grabs, including the door girls, and probably even mamasan if you want. Heh. I found a lot of the waitresses more attractive than the dancers a lot of times, but whatever floats your balls.

First, LOOK AT THEIR ID. If you see a red V on the right side, she is a cherry girl. Don’t even waste your time with that.

The biggest piece of advice I can give you, is build rapport with the bar. If your waitress is cool, buy her an LD and they usually are pretty helpful in your selection. If you’re really having trouble, find a cool mamasan and buy her a drink and get her to work for you. But that is last resort, as the waitresses are the same age as the dancers so usually they are good friends and know which girls are willing to explore. In Champagne for example I found a group of waitresses that specialized in girl shows! There are some good adventures to be found that you would have not known if you didn’t ask.

This goes without saying, but NEGOTIATE WHAT WILL TAKE PLACE IN YOUR ROOM BEFORE BF. Slim chance, but worse case you will get a girl that won’t get to business because you didn’t ask beforehand. This goes for BFing more than one as well. You may end up taking them one at a time, no DATY while the other waits if you do that without negotiating.

Last, smile and have a good time about it, don’t treat it like a business transaction, your experience will improve. Give her some change for a trike when you’re done.

BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD

Last but not least, I spent like 11-12 days in AC and only paid 3 bar fines, but fucked way more women than that. Lots of free pussy everywhere. 7-11, Chow King, SM Mall, the street (beware of the LB SWers though, unless that is your thing), your hotel front desk, The Earth is your playing ground. I especially like Sky Trax and R&B bar. The woman to man ratio was about 3:1 everytime I went. I know the crowd here is older and many do not like this type of music, but I saw some old hairy foreigners hooking up with young girls there and dancing and grinding on them for free. You can’t beat that. I know a tactic that I used that worked really well was inviting the girls who said they enjoy dancing to hip hop music from the bar to Skytrax when they got off at 1am, then later on lead them to my room. I feel so guilty. No BF, no cash exchange, sometimes maybe I bought them a drink at the club. Heh

Enjoy

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[QUOTE=D Etat]50 pesos a pop is not going to kill you. :)[/QUOTE]

Can you still get a 50 peso trike in AC? it's more like 70 peso now. Got a trike from Preimeter to Pacific Breeze once, and the cheeky bugger wanted a tip! I don't feel the need to use a trike unless you have a girl with you, and you are in Perimeter.

[QUOTE=Blink157]Dollhouse has a back door entry to Crystal palace(Heartbreaker/pickupdisco) which means if you enter DH and have a beer, just go upstairs and take a look at Crystalpalace----one beer, 2 looks :D

When in Ac I realized many cops around bars, heavily armed..not sure if that should encourage me to enter the bars or discourage me to stay the fxxk away.
Well, I found out that when enter atlantis 2 days ago, 90% of the guys were asian..most be a holiday somewhere :D

Happy hunting

Blink[/QUOTE]About the cops, every couple of days while I've been here, the SWAT team or task force or whatever they are show up in their Toyota Hilux that looks like a chopped up paddy wagon, decked out in tactical gear and what looks like ancient M16A1s, which if you are familiar with jam up a lot. Not that I'd still mess with them. No clue what they are after, or if they are just for "prevention. "

I saw a working dog the other day, so don't carry drugs on Fields Ave.

It can't be that bad though, in front of DMZ bar I met a copper fellow in a blue uniform (the typical cops you see on Fields) that was rather friendly. Turns out his wife is a waitress at doll house.

Wish I had known about the DollHouse backdoor while I lived in the Swiss Hotel! Shortcut to Fields.

An update about hotels. Today I checked out ABC Hotel. Imelda, the Sales/Marketing Manager (very good looking also mind you) was nice enough to give me a tour. I wish I would have known about it sooner! The cheapest room is 99 bucks US a day, but it is sooooo worth it! The pool and the jacuzzi just seal the deal. Don't forget that they also have a spa, gym, and free shuttle bus! Where I come from a room like that would cost 200 bucks a night. I'll also let you know, today I did some experimentation in the bars, and I casually mentioned to a few girls that I was staying in ABC Hotel. The reaction I got was eyes bugging out of their sockets, and all of a sudden the rubbing on my dick got more intense. Too bad I had to say just kidding. Heh There must be a reason why one of the first questions the girls always ask when you buy them LD is where are you staying. : D

So you guys keep that in mind, perhaps you could do some mental math and weigh the cost of staying in ABC minus Hotel America next door's price versus possibly getting lots of free pussy because they want to stay in a nice hotel for the night. Next time I'll consider that.

Ok, update from today. I splurged (no pun intended) on 3 girls at Touch of Class bar, two dancers and a waitress. The waitress was preggo and barely showing, while the two dancers were roomates with great hips. I pick my girls based on eagerness and willingness to go the extra kilometer, not outright beauty. I got several assurances that they would devour each others pussy, and boy did they deliver. I used a total of 5 condoms, heh, and the fun included BBBJ with two girls rubbing my nipples and cupping my balls, two girls on my dick and one on the balls, cowgirl while my nipples got sucked by two girls, doggy while my asshole was fondled, and goodness knows what else, I don't even remember.

The preggo chick kissed me while two girls jerked me off and licked my chest, but I had to take over and milk myself before my two hour short time room expired!

I stayed in Perimeter Hotel, and it actually wasn't too bad. It served its purpose and was way cleaner and newer than America Hotel!

And yeah if you pay more than 70 pesos for a trike in the local area, you got ripped. I can get a trike from Fields to Stargate, which is the farthest bar, for 70 pesos. Most of the time I pay 50, but some trike drivers will not even take you for the correct price because you are a foreigner. Just keep on walking if that is the case.

If you are further out from Fields onto Perimeter, the fee is 70. Clarkton Hotel to Fields is 70, but I'd be happy to drop 100 for that distance.

Don't expect them to give you change for large bills (500). Plan accordingly, or walk go into a shop or your hotel to get change.

If you have doubts about the fee, ask the staff at the hotel or bar you happen to be in. If you do a barfine, ask her.... Or better yet, give her 100 and ask her to take care of business. She's usally the one sitting closest to the trike driver anyway.

X

[QUOTE=Bob Down]Can you still get a 50 peso trike in AC? it's more like 70 peso now. Got a trike from Preimeter to Pacific Breeze once, and the cheeky bugger wanted a tip! I don't feel the need to use a trike unless you have a girl with you, and you are in Perimeter.[/QUOTE]

I stayed out at Clarkton my only trip to Angeles and I paid 50 to Fields. I never got even a reproach from the trike guys. I asked what the fee should be from a few in the hotel and they said 50p. I once did a round trip from Clarkton to the mall and back and we negotiated 150 but he waited for me to hit a few ATMs until I found one that was working. The driver also knew he had me by the balls as I was on my way to airport and needed the taxi fare ASAP, I started the negotiations at 100.

No mean to offend but this was as recent as February.

Has the price changed since then?

Travelfox

[QUOTE=Horntoad]Can anyone tell me how much it costs to take a trike from Pacific Breeze to SM Mall and also to Perimeter? Usually walk to SM or take a Jeepney to Perimeter but since it is rainy season, probably will be taking more trikes on my next trip.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Most of your dough is going to go to barfines, tips, eating (eating for two) and lady drinks. why are you worried about the price of trike rides?

[QUOTE=Travel Fox]I stayed out at Clarkton my only trip to Angeles and I paid 50 to Fields. I never got even a reproach from the trike guys. I asked what the fee should be from a few in the hotel and they said 50p. I once did a round trip from Clarkton to the mall and back and we negotiated 150 but he waited for me to hit a few ATMs until I found one that was working. The driver also knew he had me by the balls as I was on my way to airport and needed the taxi fare ASAP, I started the negotiations at 100.

No mean to offend but this was as recent as February.

Has the price changed since then?

Travelfox[/QUOTE]Just as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns. Its still cheap & convenient transport tho so dont worry. It occurs to me that although these guys are charging 10x the going rate elsewhere, they still look like dirt poor grubs.. and another thing, the girls have the potential to earn a weekly salary far in excess of her square sisters but like all hookers they are always broke... hmmm...
AV

[QUOTE=FiveNinerZero]BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD[/QUOTE]
Santos girls blow the same customers as Fields girls. Why would you think Fields girls are any cleaner?

[QUOTE=X Man]If you are further out from Fields onto Perimeter, the fee is 70. Clarkton Hotel to Fields is 70, but I'd be happy to drop 100 for that distance.

Don't expect them to give you change for large bills (500). Plan accordingly, or walk go into a shop or your hotel to get change.

If you have doubts about the fee, ask the staff at the hotel or bar you happen to be in. If you do a barfine, ask her.... Or better yet, give her 100 and ask her to take care of business. She's usally the one sitting closest to the trike driver anyway.

X[/QUOTE]

I know a bargirl who refuses to give her money to trike drivers, she would rather take a Jeepney and walk than give them anything. As AV has pointed out, and I found out for myself than you can go the same distance in Subic for 15 peso as you can for 70 peso in AC. Even the doorman at Pacific Breeze had a laugh to himself when he heard this trike driver ask me for a tip for a 70 peso ride.

Trike drivers don't treat the girls any differently to us, they know the girl have money or they think the girls have money. Trike drivers never carry any change and they try that on the girls that I have spoken to aswell.

After all that said, you'll still see a number of girls that use trikes to get too and from work.

[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]Santos girls blow the same customers as Fields girls. Why would you think Fields girls are any cleaner?[/QUOTE]

Rob, ask a Fields girl if she is cleaner than a Santos girl. I would be interested in her answer.

In Cebu the taxi are not only cheaper, but they are also much bigger.

You can stand up in them to get in and out. In AC you have all the big western guys and the smallest back-breaking trike even. Go figure!!


[QUOTE=Bob Down]I know a bargirl who refuses to give her money to trike drivers, she would rather take a Jeepney and walk than give them anything. As AV has pointed out, and I found out for myself than you can go the same distance in Subic for 15 peso as you can for 70 peso in AC. Even the doorman at Pacific Breeze had a laugh to himself when he heard this trike driver ask me for a tip for a 70 peso ride.

Trike drivers don't treat the girls any differently to us, they know the girl have money or they think the girls have money. Trike drivers never carry any change and they try that on the girls that I have spoken to aswell.

After all that said, you'll still see a number of girls that use trikes to get too and from work.[/QUOTE]

Over the years I have had very bad experiences with the trike drivers. I purposley stay in an area where I can limit there use. Indeed, I have walked to perimeter road and back just to avoid them.

[QUOTE=Amavida]Just as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns. Its still cheap & convenient transport tho so dont worry. It occurs to me that although these guys are charging 10x the going rate elsewhere, they still look like dirt poor grubs.. and another thing, the girls have the potential to earn a weekly salary far in excess of her square sisters but like all hookers they are always broke... hmmm...
AV[/QUOTE]

I avoid trikes in Angeles except where absolutely necessary. They are scum, pure and simple. NOWHERE else in the PI are trike rates even half of the ridiculous amounts they charge. The jeepneys are not 5 times as expensive as elsewhere and there is no reason th trikes should be. They gouge filipinos also.

Taking a jeepney is more comfortable and provides a good chance to meet nice girls you'd never get a chance to flirt with otherwise.

Just found out that Cat 2 typhoon Fengshen passed through Philippines over the weekend. On wunderground it shows the track as being close to Boracay and going through Manila, and Angles City. All my favorite places.

Any reports? Is AC still standing? Everyone OK? Girls still fucking?

[QUOTE=FiveNinerZero]
BF prices.
Fields Ave-1350
Perimeter-1200 (beware of Perimeter “ST” it is the same as LT but they push it because most of the bars have hotels upstairs so you pay them 300 pesos an hour for the room and the girl gets back to work for more money the same night, not worth it IMO)
Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD[/QUOTE]

Your report was very good and accurate; however your STD comment is very misleading. Look. A girl who takes 100 clean loads is safer than a girl who takes 1 infected one diba? You really dont know. There was a cherry girl at Alaska that went to Atlantis. She was bf'd more than alot of the regular girls. Why? She was smoking hot and she swallowed. Sure, she was technically a virgin, but she had more cocks in her mouth than a KFC manager. She was more at risk than alot of non-cherry girls just by the odds.

Im not flaming you man youre one of us, and gave a very helpful report for the noobs. But this whole notion blow row girls have a higher rate of infection is wrong. Most mongers go bareback. Thats a fact. So it doesnt matter WHERE a girl takes a load, if a guy is infected so is she. Ive heard this assumption for so many years and the stats just dont support it.

Anyway. Stay safe out there =)

Well I heard from some of my "girlfriends" Only damage I heard was there was small electrical fire at touch of class on Perimeter RD. My frind from "Bodyshop" has informed me that after storm business is as normal. Good time to go cuz she told me this is low season and Mongers are wanted.

"Just as a matter of interest, the prices being charged for trikes around the bars of AC are very high in comparison to 'normal' areas of Phils cities/towns."

I guess the idea is to find out what the price actually is as opposed to taking what a couple may be paying as being the gospel. In Pattaya this sort of thing used to happen (arbitrary pricing) and then probably after a few foreigners got the shit kicked out of them, the baht bus council or what ever started to post the fares even though they were already "established". Even though the prices were well established they had to post them in order to let the first time visitors or uninitiated know what the prices were. It was the greed of the drivers that started to get out of hand if I remember correctly. And I may be wrong but am probably closer to what happened than further...

Funny thing is that in Pattaya, and relatively few foreigners know this, the correct fare for all persons is 5 baht. But some first worlder probably went and said "hey that aint fair, we should be paying 10 baht". And the baht bus drivers said (in Thai) "well so be it" and that was the price thenceforth (is that a word? haha) and all baht bus drivers smiled and drank large Singhas.

I once, on a whim during a trip to Pattaya 3 years or so ago, told my friends that the baht bus was 5 baht for everyone. They told me I was crazy and that for us it is 10 baht (yes I normally pay 10 and locals pay 5). And on the next ride I acted like I did not know them and paid 5 baht and walked away without even a whisper from the bus driver. They refused to believe even after I paid 5 right in front of them and then screamed at me the fare was 10 baht for us. That moment, gave me a lot of insight on the western way of thinking and that no matter what there are guys out there who will superimpose western views on a third world situation.

Travelfox

[QUOTE=FiveNinerZero]Blow Row-600 ST, 1000 LT and an STD[/QUOTE]
Not necessarily.
I've got my one and only STD from a Fields girl.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Bob Down]Rob, ask a Fields girl if she is cleaner than a Santos girl. I would be interested in her answer.[/QUOTE]
No, I don't believe in poking the hornets' nest. Still, I don't see why I should trust her answer on that any more than I would trust her to review my 401k to make sure my investments are balanced.

[QUOTE=Travel Fox]Funny thing is that in Pattaya, and relatively few foreigners know this, the correct fare for all persons is 5 baht.[/QUOTE]That was true till a couple months ago, but my Thai friends say that they also pay 10 baht now. Pretty reasonable considering the cost of diesel has about tripled since the 5B fare first went into effect.

[QUOTE=Dcand4]Good time to go cuz she told me this is low season and Mongers are wanted.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, good to know, for me 15 more days till next visit..... :D

Cheers!

"Scum" - your being too kind.

A few years ago I was in AC with my son and nephew. A trike driver tried to take them to "play cards." We all know what that means. Had it not been for the fact I warned them, and told them what direction they should be going in, they would have had a bit of a problem on their hands.

Walk, its good exercise.

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]I avoid trikes in Angeles except where absolutely necessary. They are scum, pure and simple. NOWHERE else in the PI are trike rates even half of the ridiculous amounts they charge. The jeepneys are not 5 times as expensive as elsewhere and there is no reason th trikes should be. They gouge filipinos also.

Taking a jeepney is more comfortable and provides a good chance to meet nice girls you'd never get a chance to flirt with otherwise.[/QUOTE]

I am in AC presently -- this is my second trip in a year. Already, the trike drivers have started to get on my nerves. I was in Manilla recently, I took a taxi around town, I was amazzed at how cheap the fare was to go from point A to B. The same distance in AC or shorter a trike driver would want double or even triple the price.

Stay away from the trike drivers. Find out a hotel in the middle of Fields, walk to the mall, walk to bars or if you live close to Perimeter road use your hotel's transporation, some hotels have their own trikes, buses or vans. The alternative is to take a jeepney -- as most it will cost is 8 pesos, a better deal than the 80 or 90 pesos the trike driver wants!

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I am in AC presently -- this is my second trip in a year. Already, the trike drivers have started to get on my nerves. I was in Manilla recently, I took a taxi around town, I was amazzed at how cheap the fare was to go from point A to B. The same distance in AC or shorter a trike driver would want double or even triple the price.

Stay away from the trike drivers. Find out a hotel in the middle of Fields, walk to the mall, walk to bars or if you live close to Perimeter road use your hotel's transporation, some hotels have their own trikes, buses or vans. The alternative is to take a jeepney -- as most it will cost is 8 pesos, a better deal than the 80 or 90 pesos the trike driver wants![/QUOTE]
Just watch out for pickpockets on the jeepneys. They usually work in threes. Try sitting on the front seats on the jeeps.

I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices. I know some might be getting a free ride pesos wise, but at the same time there are women paying the pesos. I can possibly understand using them late late night or early morning, but when jeepneys are plentiful during the daytime, I just never understood how they are willing to pay a ladydrink at least each trip. Economically it doesn't make sense.

[QUOTE=Key Master]I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure it is a status thing. Most BG get up to a 50% discount depending.

I've been warned personally that there is a higher incidence RIGHT NOW at the ST row. This is fact coming from long term residents with unquestioned credibility. There are always anecdotes all over, and your are correct about the frequency of BBFS, but something is going round right now on blow row. The girls are even talking about it. It appears one MF may have spread it to several girls who then pass it on and so on.

[QUOTE=Key Master]I'm always amazed when in Angeles to see mainly the bar girls use the trikes and pay their prices. I know some might be getting a free ride pesos wise, but at the same time there are women paying the pesos. I can possibly understand using them late late night or early morning, but when jeepneys are plentiful during the daytime, I just never understood how they are willing to pay a ladydrink at least each trip. Economically it doesn't make sense.[/QUOTE]Bargirls it is Easy Comes Easy Go.

[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]Just watch out for pickpockets on the jeepneys. They usually work in threes. Try sitting on the front seats on the jeeps.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I've been 'pocketed twice on jeepneys in the Philippines, once in Manila and once in AC. They are experts at their craft and neither time did I feel the 'lift' although the second time I recognised the distraction technique of one of the trio but by that time it was too late and my wallet had gone. In neither incident did I lose much (never carry much in my wallet on the streets anyway) and in the second incident my otherwise empty wallet only had P200 in it - the team must have been gutted:D.
So if you ride the jeepney in AC, either keep your hand on your wallet, your main money stash secreted elsewhere (I use one the elasticated bandage thingies secured to my lower calf) or as Darth suggest grab the front pews, if free.

I have been out of the USA at least 70 times and never once have I carried a wallet. Why would do that? It has my driver's license, health insurance card, phone numbers of USA snatch, and other IDs.

I sometimes carry a photocopy of my passport, particularly in the Phils and I am always playing "pocket billiards" when I am there. That keeps whatever little money that I carry with me safe. The thieves thieves know what I am doing and so do I.

I take transportation on the safer carriers and wonder why others inquire about 50 peso vs. 70 peso trike rides. Dudes!!!! You are posting about less than 50 cents!!!! I would rather travel safely and secure

I have digressed enough.

PLC f/k/a Slippery

I see a lot of hand wringing & cursing about these transportation methods & criminal actions in general.
I think its important to apply a little zen to all this instead of getting high blood pressure about it all.
I know jeepney's are not safe for westerners to travel on unaccompanied so I don't do it. I don't fret about it.. its just part of the world I live in.
I know trikes in Angeles are charging P70 for a ride that should be P7 elswhere. I don't use them unless it is convenient. I enjoy walking from fields to the SM Mall or along the streets. I dont get friggin ulcers about it..
I use taxi's in Manila a lot, I know Taxi's occasionally overcharge me there even when I tell them clearly 'I am not a tourist' clearly in Tagalog. I don't fly into a rage about it.. I just take note & avoid them If I see them again.
Native Filippinas get treated like this also, you tourists are not unique, just more likely to be uninformed.
Just keep your eyes & ears open, learn form your experiences, build up a mental map of how to get around without too much hassle & enjoy your stay!

AV

First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex

[QUOTE=Carmex]First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex[/QUOTE]

I have learned a hard and painful lesson when dealing with Filipinos. Remove all emotion. Go there... fuck and go home. As for sending money...Forget it. The requests will never stop. Don't even start.

Go there... enjoy... go home or like me relocate there but still no emotion. Disney land? It feels that way because these girls need money and you have it. Western countries are Disney land to millionaires and billionaires. Smell what I am cooking?

If you are the marrying type stay away from the bars and look for one who is educated and making her own dough. In most cases her salary will be small compared to western standards and she will still feel as if she has some "debt" to her family but she won't be looking for a handout right way....

About going and or going alone. I have found traveling alone to be great. Last time I went mongering co-workers you had guys talking behind the other guys back. He is in with the "hookers" etc... Guys running out of money, some sad because they are not having any luck with the ladies, whining saying "I don't like paying for it"... ridiculous.

I carry a wallet, but it is an extra and doesn't have any critical cards -- maybe an extra phone load card.

Not carrying a wallet would be too troublesome for me. If you have bills wadded up in your pockets, you'll end up dropping some of those.

Like Gamahucher, lost a wallet on an AC jeepney. We were crammed in tight and the guy to the right of me kept squirming. He couldn't have done it, so I suspect he had an accomplice to the right of him who reached his arm around the back. I was back in action pretty quickly, but I still would rather blow money on women and booze rather than lose it to sleezeballs.

X

[QUOTE=Puerto La Cruz]I have been out of the USA at least 70 times and never once have I carried a wallet. Why would do that? It has my driver's license, health insurance card, phone numbers of USA snatch, and other IDs.

I sometimes carry a photocopy of my passport, particularly in the Phils and I am always playing "pocket billiards" when I am there. That keeps whatever little money that I carry with me safe. The thieves thieves know what I am doing and so do I.

I take transportation on the safer carriers and wonder why others inquire about 50 peso vs. 70 peso trike rides. Dudes!!!! You are posting about less than 50 cents!!!! I would rather travel safely and secure

I have digressed enough.

PLC f/k/a Slippery[/QUOTE]

Sorry, does anybody knows a location in Angeles to get an erotic-massage (=sexmassage incl. blowjob) like in Thailand?

Onkelpitzz

Get a wallet with a chain and tie your cell to your pants. Sure they can cut them but it's one extra step. Keep both on the same side of you and make sure that side is always gaurded by your girl, a buddy, or the back wall of the jeep. I know well over a hundred expats currently living here and have met at least a thousand tourists over the past 6 years and can count on my fingers the bad experiences I've heard first hand, internet doesn't count unless I've met them personally.

As far as seeing girls taking trikes, a lot come from areas not within walking distances to the main roads to take the jeeps, especially if they are dressed for work. The "other" girls you see paying full fair can afford it:Moneykos!

Bud

Dear Carmex,
I beg to differ. I met online - then in person - a bunch of nice girls on Filipina Heart. You need to find a way to separate the wheat from the chaff. I did this by composing a 7 page letter being very direct about what I was looking for. About 50% of the FH girls either didn't respond or said they are not the girl I am looking for.

Those that responded were genuine.

Of the dozen I met on 4 trips, only 1 was a waste of my time ( and I only let her waste 2 hours till I left)

I have a Fiance visa in the works for a nice lady - 37 yrs old - from Negros Occidental.

Good Luck in whatever you do.

[QUOTE=Carmex]

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex[/QUOTE]

I have a friend she used to work in Champayne and is now currently working in Bodyshop. I met her last February 2007 when she was new to he seen (3 weeks). Any way, I have seen her change from shy and not great in bed to "wowowee". She cried when I left that February (the usual) an I saw her in May 2007, August 2007, November 2007, February 2008 and April 2008. We write and we are blatenly honest. She tells me her bf and I tell her mine. She gets jealous but says she would rather know than have one of her girlfriends say they saw me and she not know. She says she has loved me for the past year. But you know what! She has NEVER asked me for moey. Not even hint it. Is this an exception to bar girls. I don't know but when I am there the sex is free and absolutely the best.

I am somewhat confused about your questions:

"I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support."

AC is for sport fucking. Is that what you want? If you are looking for a wife A/C is not the place. You are far better off checking out the province girls.


[QUOTE=Carmex]First time posting, long time reading. Was in AC just last month and am going back next week. Here is what I found:

The place was safe.

I had more sex than I could handle.

Every girl I met just wanted to have fun and fuck.

Every rumour I had ever heard about the PI was true. (and then some)

I met as many non BF girls as I did BF girls.

I haven't fucked that much since I was in High School.

Unfortunetly, after reading these posts I realize the place was not Disneyland and now my reality is shattered. It is kind of a bummer when you learn the truth. Like when you first learn there is no Santa Claus. One girl I hooked up with and exchanged emails just asked me for help (money) because her kids were sick, she was sick, couldn't work, etc. Bummed me out.

Also signed up for filipinaheart.com and now I find out that all those girls are pros and scammers. Even the sweet and innocent looking ones! Right now my buddy just backed out of going back to AC because of funds, but I still have my ticket. I am wondering if I should even go alone? Let me know guys I need some moral support.

Thanks

Carmex[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mongering1]Get a wallet with a chain and tie your cell to your pants. Sure they can cut them but it's one extra step. Keep both on the same side of you and make sure that side is always gaurded by your girl, a buddy, or the back wall of the jeep. I know well over a hundred expats currently living here and have met at least a thousand tourists over the past 6 years and can count on my fingers the bad experiences I've heard first hand, internet doesn't count unless I've met them personally.

As far as seeing girls taking trikes, a lot come from areas not within walking distances to the main roads to take the jeeps, especially if they are dressed for work. The "other" girls you see paying full fair can afford it:Moneykos!

Bud[/QUOTE]Gentleman,

I personally leave my wallet in my bags or carry it in my front pocket. I have found money belt useful. Best trick my father taught me was to put a large rubberband around your wallet or wad of bills. The rubber creates friction with your pants and it is not easily slipped out.

Meluvulongtime

If you put your wallet in your front pocket on a jeapney, they will never get it out with your knees tucked up under your chin.

I Also have a special holiday wallet, with a steel ring in that I attach a retractable security pass holder. As perviously stated not 100% proof but another obsticle for them to get over, especially if they don't know it is attached.

Not lost a wallet yet, but I did leave bank card in ATM. Luckily no loss tho!

[QUOTE=D Etat]... Remove all emotion. Go there... fuck and go home. As for sending money...Forget it. The requests will never stop. Don't even start...
Go there... enjoy... go home or like me relocate there but still no emotion... [/QUOTE]



So very true, D Etat! Especially your point about "requests". There is nothing more to add!


Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Dcand4]I have a friend ... She has NEVER asked me for moey. Not even hint it. Is this an exception to bar girls. I don't know but when I am there the sex is free and absolutely the best.[/QUOTE]Despite the very cynical posts you may see here, I also have some girlfriends who never ask money. These are all non P4P girls.
As for BG's.. they are in that industry because they NEED MONEY not because they like standing there almost naked listening to deafening mind numbing dumf dumf crap music & being indiscriminately fucked by a never ending succession of fat ugly depraved old men.. (Sorry to shatter anyones illusions of any glamour to this flesh trade) Chances of BG's requesting support are much higher than non P4P girls for that reason.
If you have a BG who is doing the 'I love you' routine & not asking support she may really like you & is thinking of you as a long term support (husband)... or maybe she already has a sucker or 3 already sending her money & just enjoys screwing you..
AV

Thanks guys for the responses. I am the marrying kind. However, I am not above sport fucking. I went to AC because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. Now I have 3 or 4 different girls on FH that want me to come down to Manila. I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.

My buddy lives in Bangkok, and wants me to come there. Not sure what I am going to do. One thing I know is, I luv PH pussy. Feels good and the chicks are cool.

[QUOTE=Amavida]Despite the very cynical posts you may see here, I also have some girlfriends who never ask money. These are all non P4P girls.
As for BG's.. they are in that industry because they NEED MONEY not because they like standing there almost naked listening to deafening mind numbing dumf dumf crap music & being indiscriminately fucked by a never ending succession of fat ugly depraved old men.. (Sorry to shatter anyones illusions of any glamour to this flesh trade) Chances of BG's requesting support are much higher than non P4P girls for that reason.
If you have a BG who is doing the 'I love you' routine & not asking support she may really like you & is thinking of you as a long term support (husband)... or maybe she already has a sucker or 3 already sending her money & just enjoys screwing you..
AV[/QUOTE]


There it is again. Some guys think they are the only ones who know non-bar girl type in PI or other places.......Moving this to the proper thread... [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1511[/url]

[QUOTE=Carmex]Thanks guys for the responses. I am the marrying kind. However, I am not above sport fucking. I went to AC because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. Now I have 3 or 4 different girls on FH that want me to come down to Manila. I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.

My buddy lives in Bangkok, and wants me to come there. Not sure what I am going to do. One thing I know is, I luv PH pussy. Feels good and the chicks are cool.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I read ur post and have to agree...PI is to dangerous..specially AC..lots of gurls you can bang for small money..cheep beer, good food....dont go there unless you can make ur own decession and dont have to ask evrytime your command what to do :D
If you have a BKK fren go there, many Ladyboys, you will like it :D

Seriosly..BKK is great but its more expensive then AC...it has more things to offer cause AC has just sex :D
If you looking to get married, you need to live with somebody first and see where its going..Geez I dont know why so many guys think, they just go windowshopping and get marry to a gurl they know for 3 hours...

Ok, both places are fun, but dnt make us mongers look bad, we here for the sex, the pussy, cheap beer, good food and fun..I didnt go to the Philippines to get married and specially not to a hooker :)

Blink out

breaking rules? wow, how do they justify that? when i was in the navy -- on a ship operating temporarily out of subic, i actually took leave while i was there in the philippines. that was when the bases were there though.

i know there has been a lot of bad press about us military (the gangbang [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] a while back) so maybe they are worried about some kind of retribution...or just trying to keep you guys restricted in order to avoid another incident.

what about filipino-americans in the us military??? surely they can go to the philippines.

tell your command that you have an ex-miltary friend living in the philippines and you plan to visit. i'm sure some of the old ex-grunts and ex-swabbies would be happy to let you call them a "friend" if you buy them a sm.

tickets in bkk are cheap. you might consider a round trip out of bkk to mnl or ceb or dvo. i'm not sure if that solves the problem.

good luck,

x

[quote=carmex]thanks guys for the responses. i am the marrying kind. however, i am not above sport fucking. i went to ac because we had a contact there to show us around and tell us what to do. now i have 3 or 4 different girls on fh that want me to come down to manila. i am in the army stationed in korea, so getting to pi is cheap, but not easy. my command would no way support going there alone. so, if i did, i would be breaking some rules.

my buddy lives in bangkok, and wants me to come there. not sure what i am going to do. one thing i know is, i luv ph pussy. feels good and the chicks are cool.[/quote]

[QUOTE=Carmex]I am in the Army stationed in Korea, so getting to PI is cheap, but not easy. My command would no way support going there alone. So, if I did, I would be breaking some rules.[/QUOTE]Uhm, No. First. Ask your squad leader to find our from your Plt Sgt what all you need to do. For the most part it will be this: Prep your leave packet, include an address (hotel is fine) where you will stay you should know the drill. You will need a current level 1 anti terrorism cert (you can do it online and print it out), an S1 brief or maybe it was S2 Can't remember. (Usually some bored E4 reading a printout from the State Dept. Website telling you that there are pickpockets and price gouging cabbies in that town. You will have to wait for someone up the chain of command to call the embassy or consulate closest to where you are going to get the political weather report (Catholic part of the country = cool, Muslim part = not so cool). That is about the only thing you will have to worry about. Jeez dude, they let me go to the Chinese Mainland last year by myself and my chain of command and I are damned near at war! Just do as advised and get someone to vouch that you are visiting them. And when you get there stay out of trouble. Use both heads not just the one that dangles, hooah?

Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.

[QUOTE=Proudpinoy]Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.[/QUOTE]

aside from RTFF here my suggestions

where to stay: Fiesta garden hotel, downtown AC, gud prices, close to the action :D
where to eat: Burgermashine,jolibee, mc donald....plenty there
where to party: ac downtown, many chicks :D, wild and cheap

things to watch out for: if ur butt hurts and ur barfine ask for shavinng foam next morning..be aware and tell him to leave the room discretly..
Dont pay more then 100p for the toothless streethookers, 150p would be a ripp off.

Happy 4th of july

Blink :)

PS Better RTTF

Blink, you ornery old bastrd. What would we do without you!

X

[QUOTE=Blink157]aside from RTFF here my suggestions

where to stay: Fiesta garden hotel, downtown AC, gud prices, close to the action :D
where to eat: Burgermashine,jolibee, mc donald....plenty there
where to party: ac downtown, many chicks :D, wild and cheap

things to watch out for: if ur butt hurts and ur barfine ask for shavinng foam next morning..be aware and tell him to leave the room discretly..
Dont pay more then 100p for the toothless streethookers, 150p would be a ripp off.

Happy 4th of july

Blink :)

PS Better RTTF[/QUOTE]

[quote=proudpinoy]should be very busy on the 4th of july weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from manila to angeles city for about 3-4 days. for most of us, it's the first time there. any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? we are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

thanks in advance fellas.[/quote]hotels:

high end. abc hotel. rooms are about $90 up to $385 pacific breeze. rooms here about $48 to start and jacuzzi rooms at about $90 lewis grand hotel (brand new). rooms between p2, 600(deluxe king) and p12, 200 (presidential suite) [url]www.lewisgrand.com[/url]

mid to high end. orange lion hotel. rooms about $50

middle end. phoenix hotel. rooms between $30 and $40 swiss chalet. rooms between $36 and $72(suite) clarkton. rooms betweeen p1, 500 basic and p3, 900(suite)

low end. hotel hana. rooms between p995 (basic) to p2, 300 (family suite)

food:

kokomo's. located on fields ave

margarita station (the ville). located on fields ave, near the checkpoint end of fields)

azurro (sp? ) restaurant. located on fields, above the lancelot bar, across from la bamba/rhapsody bar. good place for steaks and italian type foods and also italian style pizza

c' italian dinning. located on perimeter road, one of the best restaurants in town (if not the best), expensive, but quality food

things to watch out for:

**** girls! do not pick up freelancers in ac, there have been numerous scams (planned together with "authorities") in which case you can expect to pay anywhere between p50, 000 and p200, 000 to have no "complainant" (meaning that the persons who set you up will not file charges for a "fee".

take girls out from the bars, the cost is generally p1300-1400 on/in fields bars and p1200 on/in perimeter bars. note the exception is at the dollhouse group of bars, where they have a tiered system in place, you could (and likely will if you take girls out based on looks, like stunner's) pay p3, 000 for those "showgirl" girls.

change money during daylight hours at moneychangers and not at your hotel, the hotels offer a horrific rate. how do you tell the moneychangers, there are many of them on fields ave, they have signs displaying their current exchange rates (i also recommend norma's, just ask any foreigner for directions and someone will tell you, but its easiest on fields).

do not change money if there are many local (filipino) males around that area, this is just a safety precaution to take as in the past there have been problems.

what to do (other than girls). usually not much, but on the 4th, they are having a pool party at the lewis grand hotel (from 12noon to 4pm)- the costs are (i think) p1, 000 for all you drink (local drinks) and free food and p1, 500 (imported drinks) and (p500 or p750 for a girls ticket).

as for fireworks, just try to hang around the fields ave area and you should be able to see them from the street or you can try to get information about specific places once you are in ac, as things change and are frequently announced at the last minute.

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contrary to the statement catholic areas=ok, muslim=not ok, most muslim areas are no problem at all. most of mindanao is fine, safer than angeles or manila really. crime, **** scams, gangs of trike drivers with weapons are all bigger risks than terrorism. the armm and sulu don't have much (any?) in the way of mongering options anyway.

the worst crime is always in catholic areas (namely in and around manila squatter camps). in terms of terror groups, neither npa nor mnlf are a threat; only abu sayyaf has targeted white foreigners, and that was one very publicized incident more than 5 years ago. yes they have kidnapped a few rich chinese filipinos recently, but that was in manila! don't let fearmongering prevent you from seeing the real beauty of the philippines.

those who are paralyzed with fear should just stay home.

[QUOTE=Proudpinoy]Should be very busy on the 4th of July weekend and a bunch of us will be leaving from Manila to Angeles City for about 3-4 days. For most of us, it's the first time there. Any advice on where to eat, good hotels, things to watch out for? We are all going to look like fish out of water and more than anything, just want to be safe and not get ripped off.

Thanks in advance fellas.[/QUOTE]

Too many places to eat in SM mall. Good hotels ABC, Wild Orchid. I only stay at the Wild Orchid will try the ABC on my next visit. They are expensive but I am a snob when it comes to my lodging.

Get ripped off...hmmm. The only way I can see that happening is overcharging for trikes and barfines and tips but its relative little money.

Safety just dont't make yourself a target. I love wearing diamonds but when in PI I leave the watch at home and just keep the earring even that got to much damn attention. I had local guys just standing staring my ear.

You have the leg up you are a Pinoy...

Take It Sleazy

Hi All,

Phew! This site is soooo full of information. Wish I access at work! But then, I would absolutely get no work done. Heading down to PH for the long weekend from Korea. 2nd will be in Manila for one night maybe two, and then head to Angeles for the 4th and maybe another night, then to Cebu to meet a "Virgin" I met on the internet. Last time I was in Angeles was one for the record books, so I now have begun training. Funny, you would think being in the Army, I would be working out to improve my PT score, but alas, it is for sport fucking. Question, does anyone know "jean" from the Nasty Duck? I want to hook up with her again, very nice GFE. Don't know if I should buy a triband phone down there or not. Maybe in Manila. Happy Mongering to all of you.

C.

Thanks again guys,

I really enjoy reading your posts. Hmmm, as for the Army thing, I am a senior officer, so I can pretty much do what I want. Except, if something happens down in AC, then I am toast.command likes nothing better over here in Korea than to burn people.

As for the contacts, yea I know several ex pats that I can use. All retired military that keep a lookout for me. As for the girls, all I can say is WOW!

Bars I enjoyed were, Viper Room, Nasty Duck, and some others I can't remember. One night, the 4 guys in my party each BF three girls each! I only brought one home, but eventually everyone was naked in my room and had a BF girl video the whole thing. We all ended up in the pool for more naked time. Wish I had that video. Anyway, mind is pretty made up, going to Manila for July 2nd maybe 3rd, then AC for the 4-6, and then down to Davao for 7-8.

When you guys go back do you ever get the same pussy or do you go for new stuff? I've read AC is small and there is no secrets so, are the girls cool with butterflying? My thought is, "if the pussy's good, then why not go back? " I don't know. I am excited though.

Happy 4th everyone.

C.

hi to all,

ouch X men that hurts :D

ok some more usefull news to those guys intersted to date hotel staff from central park and/or Pacific breeze..

PB told me they have a dance/singing and what so ever contest/show on friday 4th of July in PB at the pool.. SO thats a chance to get know the gurls better. I saw the fotos of their last party....;-)

Now some sad news for the more frequent visitors to angels city..

maybe you guys rember the old Lady with grey hair who selling flowers on the street ??? She passed away last week, having a heart attack.. the more frequent visitors to ac know bout which flowervendor Im talking about...

Happy sunday to all.....germany will be playing laters and I guess I will watch that game in one of those german owned bars with big screen....next to Atlantis..hint ;-) which will answers the question to the german and spain mongers where to watch the game


Blink out

June to October? I think in high season the ladies will demand more money than in rain season.

[QUOTE=Munich1976]June to October? I think in high season the ladies will demand more money than in rain season.[/QUOTE]

Hi Munich,

interesting, but are you really sure? Do they have nowadays different prices for high and low season? Or are you just referring to their 'taxi money'?


Cheers - Hesekiels

[quote=hornygeorge]contrary to the statement catholic areas=ok, muslim=not ok, most muslim areas are no problem at all. most of mindanao is fine, safer than angeles or manila really. crime, **** scams, gangs of trike drivers with weapons are all bigger risks than terrorism. the armm and sulu don't have much (any?) in the way of mongering options anyway.

the worst crime is always in catholic areas (namely in and around manila squatter camps). in terms of terror groups, neither npa nor mnlf are a threat; only abu sayyaf has targeted white foreigners, and that was one very publicized incident more than 5 years ago. yes they have kidnapped a few rich chinese filipinos recently, but that was in manila! don't let fearmongering prevent you from seeing the real beauty of the philippines.

those who are paralyzed with fear should just stay home.[/quote]i know that, you know that. now you need to tell the army and the state dept. people who give paranoid anti-terrorism briefings to soldiers vacationing overseas. i was told that while i was in china i should try to "blend in" and not look "too american" i am a little over 6' with light brown hair and blue eyes. never did get clarification on how to "blend" with the locals.

i actually have no problems in the philippines other than occasional petty theft and one unfortunate fender bender that cost me about 2700p. can't wait to retire so i can stop visiting and settle down. beats the hell out of bouncing around a desert for a year at a time.

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Hi Munich,

interesting, but are you really sure? Do they have nowadays different prices for high and low season? Or are you just referring to their 'taxi money'?


Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

Nope same price all year, just selection is smaller in low season, but so are visitors. A lot of bars run specials for LD, drinks, food, etc but BF don't change.

Unfortunately, I've never been to AC yet, but in Pattaya (Thailand) ladies charge more in December/January than in low season.

[QUOTE=Blackangst]Nope same price all year, just selection is smaller in low season, but so are visitors. A lot of bars run specials for LD, drinks, food, etc but BF don't change.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the update, Blackangst! I will be back in two weeks time and if somebody is around then simply pm me. The first round SM is on my account! :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]
I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.[/QUOTE]

Sorry to hear, but probably better that way. You'll probably hear from her in time, but there is probably a lot more going behind the scenes you'll never know about unless you somehow run into it. You won't hear it from her most likely. My recommendation is even if she contacts you again and she probably will, rescind the offer. Got to remember where you are and who they are. You want to believe in people, but when we are in that scene, we are already behind the 8 ball and that's a tough place to be.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.[/QUOTE]Ace, I sympathize as I have been through a similar situation recently. Girl who never bs'ed me and was brutally honest with me for over 18 months suddenly began lying about everything after I made the offer. As soon as I got home, she had changed her tune to I fucked up, I love you, I accept, etc. Face it-no point in going down that road (whether to with any girl is open for debate) with anyone who gives you any reason to be suspicious. She has her own reasons which you may never understand. Find another one and move on. If you really want to get a response, make sure her friends or mamasan sees you with another girl and your phone will soon be blowing up with texts from her.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.[/QUOTE]

Man why do you want to get involved with a bar girl? PI is perhaps the easiest place to meet ladies who never worked in that trade.

Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.

Ace,

I have been mongering for over 20 years now in the US, Australia and most recently in PI.

Though i have complete respect for the girls you have to remember what they do for a living. In my experience and i am sure others will disagree the girls we deal with are not the same as a "regular" girl.

You will never get a true relationship with one and believe me I have tried.

[QUOTE=Figures]Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.[/QUOTE]You dont say where in US you are flying from, but if you can fly to BKK cheap, then why not go via there and do BKK - MNL on PAL or another local carrier to save a bit?? Plenty of regular flights too.

Shoe sizes = small, usually around 34-36 average but some go much lower. There are plenty of reasonable quality ''very high heels'' to be purchased in most big Malls at incredibly low prices - much cheaper than getting them in the US and probably more variety. Take your girl ''shopping for shoes'' she will love you long time ;)

As for your fetish, I like heels too, but size 46 are getting difficult to find :D

Cheers, F/Fifty

I'm thinking about going to Angeles City during September. From doing research, I see that it is Typhoon season. Should I be worried about this? I don't mind a little rain but don't want to be swept away in a typhoon.

[QUOTE=Figures]Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.[/QUOTE]

Man shop around. Check airline consolidator, expedia, orbitz and Travelocity. $1700 that’s a little steep I am sure you can find something cheaper then that.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I am in AC.

Recently I offered a bar girl a way out of the bar. We have known each other for a year over two visits. My offer was 8000 pesos a month for her to stay home and look after her family (she has an elderly mother and a school aged daughter). Apparently, she has been in the business for 7 years. I found her to be nice and very sweet. Her looks were not that great, but for me her heart stood out.

Recently the girl has vanished, something totally out of character because she been VERY consistent/reliable to date. Last we spoke she was supposed to speak to her Mamasun about leaving the bar to go back to the province and to collect her final pay. This of course was her cover to stay with me.

I have not heard from her in 3 to 4 days. I have left messages for her, but no answer. I am very angry and pissed. I take this all as a bad sign.

I am ready to move on and cut her loose.[/QUOTE]

Hi,
just at the office, reading your post and doing some paperwork :D...

Just some questions for you for answering urself..

First, why in the world you want to support somebody you dont live with permantly, why you want to support a hooker (excuse me, a bargurl is a hooker, she screws men for money..)do you love her? You want her to follow you into your own country?
I do not want to flame you, but just get realistic, we all have to.., open your eyes. Your in Ac, hooker-men-dream-city and you should enjoy it. DOnt get serious to the bargurls, DONT GET SERIOUS >TO any gURLS in ANgeles city...They all know the game and we foreigners have an excellent reputation to the "local nonworking bargurls" means, those who have a job...which means we dont have any :D, we sexmaniacs..bola2, only want sex, bla bla bla.....so forget AC gurls, FFF and then move on to the next...
Im there evry weekend and you know what IM allready bored...I have some steady GF I met up with and just go barhop for fun...I dont found any hooker I was able to hook up with more then a week, then its bored, why is that?? Sex aint evrything and mostly but likely there aint much brain in their little heads..so I just enjoying it, but if I loook for a talk , I go to a pub and talk with some expats or with my friends...If you really looking for somebody serious to be with, you should hook up with some working gurls..Just go to a mall..start with deprtmentstore gurls and then work urself up to those who are in a Management position LOL.....ok....my last comment was a joke, but I guess you get me ;-)

So, you allready made a decession , you pissed and you cut her lose. Stick to that what your instincts telling you, most of that is true :)

Enjoy Angeles city

Blink

[QUOTE=Figures]Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.[/QUOTE]Figure,

You should go to the travel plan forum to post this.

Try cheap ticket.

The fare is high.

Next month is high season and the Bejing 2008 games, but you should get ticket round trip from US for about 1400 USD flying coach with PAL.

Fast eddie 48

Blink is right on target. You may have seen my reportabout week ago. I have girl I give no money to but yet everytime I am there we friends and she blows my mind away. Yup we talk about getting together but lets face it. She is a ***** and I am a *****. When you understand this then maybe you can be together. Now the double standard. Of course I not want to share my love who is a ***** with anyone. So once you understand the game then you will get it.

Somethings to think about and what I have seen. Even families in on the get guys to support us. Are you sure she not have Pinoy hubby. You be surprise even knowing her a whole year what she not tell you. After all she just has to protect her secret for a week or two when you are there every so often. These girls are very good at showing deep emotion. This is my thought on your situation and I am just guessing. I think girl has good intention with you. I think also that these girls get caught up in knowing this one thing they ever known and that is sex, bar hop, sleep, eat. And fuck again. Its kinda like the woman in abusive relationship. She would rather be in situation she is familar with than get out into the unfamilararity.

With saying that. If you want to meet nice girl. Go to Province and meet nice cherry girl and she will cling onto you for life. I GUARENTEE THAT! SHE WILL feed you, cut your nails, treat you like a king. Besides that you can train her to be your own personal ***** to beckon all your needs. If you want wife this is best suggestion. If you prefer variety and fun. Then join the rest of us *****s in A. C. Cuz we play well!

[QUOTE=Figures]Trying to first trip to AC mid August. Does anyone know what airlines to try to find a reasonable flight from the US? I'm finding airfares that start around 1700 USD! Man, I can fly to BKK for way less than that. Also does anyone know what the most common size shoe size is for women is in PI? I was going to bring high heels for the gals to wear for me. Yeah I know it's a fetish thing.[/QUOTE]I am going to Manila In early September and got a flight from Portland to San Francisco then Manila for $1086. 42. I just went through an agent and let her do all the work for me, it is on United then Philippine Air, same for return flight.

The shoes I would wait till there, alot of places make and sell shoes that are nice plus sexy. Yow would probably save money and have your girl be extra nice after the shopping.

Good luck in your hunt for the airfare!

Thanks for all the good advice.

I am going to hit the provinces. and get as far as away as possible from AC. AC is ok to just get laid - but a descent girl seems hard to find.

We as bar men will probably never understand filipina bar girl mentality. I know for sure it cannot always be about money. These girls have such F*** UP emotions because of life experiance that it seems to impair their better judgement even when an oppourtunity is to their advantage. Committment seems to scare them off!

For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month, but also I offered to take her to my country so she could find a real job. For that amount of money, she would not have to fuck strange men every night, she would be a respectable woman once again looking after her family. Who in their right mind would turn that down?

My conclusion is:

Either she is totally stupid and goofed up.

OR


Has a pinoy boyfriend and/or some bar guy who already financial supporting her.

There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.

Ace, just curious as you say you are in AC now, but have you gone in to her bar to see if she is there? Rather than wonder what happened, just swallow your pride and go find out what happened.

A possibility that nobody else mentioned, but you said that she was going to talk to the mamasan about leaving. Never underestimate the pull mamasan has with the girls especially if as you say she has been in AC for 7 years. The mamasan may have her own agenda as if the girl leaves, mamasan is losing money. If she is working in a smaller bar with only a few girls then mamasan probably put an even bigger guilt trip on her.

I was in AC a few weeks ago and my barfine one night got drunk and started bitching about how much her life sucked, what assholes most of the guys who bf'ed her were, etc. In the middle of her crying spree, she did however say something profound-"I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart". Good advice for everyone

If you knew the amount of guys that promise a girl the world and only go back to country and forget them you would understand how some feel. They call it 'bola bola". Soo you see go to province meet that cherry girl and make her yours. Have the dream life of wife kid 2 car garage and don't forget the white picket fence. Leave us shallow party animals to to say. Hmmm one day I just may have the life ace has. On second thought. Who do I screw tonight. Lolipop, Champayne, Dollhouse, Neros, T. I. , Dirty Duck and the list goes on and on. Hmmm isn't life not being tied down wonderful.

I have a girl in AC that I have maintain contact with for about two years now. We have always maintained they we are just friends and it wasn't until my last trip that anything ever happened between us.

It was about a month before I was due to arrive in AC (April this year) that she decided to tell me she was inlove with me. I have always told her that she is not the one for me, she even knew about my other girls else where. After telling me how she loves me, out came all the lies she had been feeding me since we first meet, along with the emotional games that go with it. I almost got sucked in with the games. Now it's just water of a ducks back.


We still maintain contact, I even ask if we should stop talking but she says she can not help needing to chat to me. Although she still loves me she has softened, she gave me a new name last week. Fubu ( fuck buddy). I think I joking told her a couple of weeks ago she was just a fuck buddy and she is now throwing it back at me.

She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.

I have hurt her feelings a number of times but she keeps coming back for more. I have never promised her the world, and I have never lied to her even though she says I bola bola.

For me she is alot of fun to be with, when she is not playing emotional games. The only thing I ever give her is food, drink and smokes. I am not sure how things will go on my next trip, as she wants to watch me fuck two girls and I believe she already has two girls in mind. But that could still be more bullshit.

This is for ACE, my girl tells me she has married off five girls in the bar, so there's still hope. I know of girls that have left the bars to study, either high school or college with the help of their new boyfriends. In saying that, good luck finding a good one.

[QUOTE=Munich1976]Unfortunately, I've never been to AC yet, but in Pattaya (Thailand) ladies charge more in December/January than in low season.[/QUOTE]

Munich1976,

The system in AC is not at all like Thailand. In AC, it's strictly a barfine system and that covers it. Yes, guys occassionally tip, but it's not really expected. The barfines stay the same year round, so there's no high season or low season pricing in that regard. The problem with the flat barfine system, is that the YMMV issues go through the roof. Some girls flake out right after you leave the bar. The upside is if you do get a good one, it's hard to beat the price at 1,200 Pesos for an all nighter.

Good luck!
AT2

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]For example, I offered the girl in question 8000 pesos a month...[/QUOTE]Not to be the lone voice of disagreement with you and the others, but to be honest most chicks wokring in the bars make more than peso 8,000 a month unless they are ugly or fat. So I ask why would she stop working for something that is less than she is used to making. Most girls get into that line of work to support their baby or other family members and those family members will still continue to beg for cash support regardless of where she is working so taking less cash just to get out of that line of work isn't realy an option for many of them.

I do agree though that she probally has someone else taking care of her or a boyfriend. If there is one thing I have learned over 39 years of association with the Philippines is that the women always have a "Plan B" in case thing don't work out with their primary plan. You were probally a plan b.

I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.

I'm sure Bob has already considered this, but this is also an indirect way to ask for money. I suspect a lot of guys, after hearing the story, would refund the woman the money she was fined. I know I have once.

But you have to wonder -- was she really fined like she said she was?

X

[QUOTE=Bob Down]

She never asks for money, just found out last night that the two nights she took leave from the bar to stay with me, papasan found out why she was on leave and fined her. She did not even ask for me to cover the fine for her.
[/QUOTE]

Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I will keep the bar nameless.

The girl in question works at a smaller bar -- is one of the most popular girls and does earn a fair bit for the bar, despite her age 35 years old and number of years in the bar. Last week, the Mamasan had warned the girl not to spend too much time with me, strange huh? But this was before the girl indicated her decision to leave.

Most likely, the Mamasan who likes to bully girls likely said or did something to discourage the girl from leaving the bar. The girl became afraid hence she disappeared.

I have no plans on returning to the bar -- I would be unwelcome.[/QUOTE]

Fourth possibilty:

Someone paid a one week barfine to go to Borocay. Look out for the tan lines, and a damn good excuse, when she resurfaces.

Ace, lots of decent women out there. Get out to the provinces and enjoy yourself. I'll be looking forward to your next reports.

X



[QUOTE=Vittu]There is a third possible explanation that I kind of hate to raise:
That even in her emotionally fucked up state she has concluded she has no future with you.
Just a possibility.[/QUOTE]

Name and examples of bullying behavior please!

I try to talk to most mamasans as little as possible. I'm especially annoyed by the type who start the conversation by saying, "Which one?"

Of course it's best to be polite because if she gets bad vibes she'll give you the thumbs down to the female staff and you may as well avoid that bar for the rest of your trip. Unless of course the female staff hate her, in which case you might become more attractive.

On the other hand, if you're too nice, she'll be asking for her drink in no time at all.

If I see a mamasan having friendly conversations with the staff, see the dancers / staff approaching her, touching her (nothing sexual here, if you've been to Phil., you know what I mean), then I know this is probably a good mamasan and I'll make more efforts to get to know her.

Any nominations for best Mamasan in AC?

X






[QUOTE=Billpsu]Insomnia is home to the bully you speak of.

This Mamasan, despite all the buisness I once brought there, managed to such the fun out of any semblance of a good time I ever tried to have in that bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I will keep the bar nameless ... -- I would be unwelcome.[/QUOTE]


AoS:

I cannot imagine that! As long as you pay some drinks you are always welcome! You are the customer and money talks! IMHO of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Well I have to give my top mamasan report to "Baby Momma" of "Touch of Class" down on Perimeter Road. She has good relationship with the girls and very honest in putting you with the right girl in the needs you want. Very friendly, not pressured and in a way she is careful with her girls and at the same time makes sure you come back smiling looking for more.

X,

Here is part of the chat I had with my girl the other day, note I did change the names. Also it has been 2 1/2 months since I was in AC, you would have thought she was have brought the subject about fines up well before now.

girl: just tell me wen ur plan to come here in ac so i can tell to **** (owner)
Bob: why u want to tell owner when I arrive
girl: coz f ur here i not work so u wont pay me barfine
Bob: ok
girl: i just tell him i leave for 1 day so he wont think i go sneak out
Bob: what u say to him
girl: my friend invite me to go dinner.. coz he know i dont have bf.... its ok to leave if the man is my bf
girl: n he know that i just broke up with my bf b4.., everybody in the bar they allow to leave without paying barfine if they have only 1bf
Bob: but not same for all bar is it
girl: all the bar is same policy
Bob: ok
girl: remember in bar
girl: i leave 2days in i say i meet a friend
girl: **** (friend A) come to the bar with **** (friend B) looking for me...
girl: but they know wer im n hus with me
girl: daddy fine me 2days barshare
Bob: why u not tell me before
girl: its ok

I don't know if what she says is true or not, but I did find it interesting.

[QUOTE=Bob Down]X,

Here is part of the chat I had with my girl the other day, note I did change the names. Also it has been 2 1/2 months since I was in AC, you would have thought she was have brought the subject about fines up well before now.

girl: just tell me wen ur plan to come here in ac so i can tell to **** (owner)
Bob: why u want to tell owner when I arrive
girl: coz f ur here i not work so u wont pay me barfine
Bob: ok
girl: i just tell him i leave for 1 day so he wont think i go sneak out
Bob: what u say to him
girl: my friend invite me to go dinner.. coz he know i dont have bf.... its ok to leave if the man is my bf
girl: n he know that i just broke up with my bf b4.., everybody in the bar they allow to leave without paying barfine if they have only 1bf
Bob: but not same for all bar is it
girl: all the bar is same policy
Bob: ok
girl: remember in bar
girl: i leave 2days in i say i meet a friend
girl: **** (friend A) come to the bar with **** (friend B) looking for me...
girl: but they know wer im n hus with me
girl: daddy fine me 2days barshare
Bob: why u not tell me before
girl: its ok

I don't know if what she says is true or not, but I did find it interesting.[/QUOTE]

I dont understand at all what she says :D Can you translate it into english??

Your a brave man, I would turn off ym allready after the 2nd line :D

Blink

Gents (and maybe ladies)

I find myself with a months vacation starting immediately and I've decided on the philippines and in particular AC. While searching the net and reading many of the AC posts,I notice the following:

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I dont hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the philippines?

Blaktea

P.s Be careful with your posts, I will act on them!

Drinks notwithstanding, I wish it were so.

Some people just have a mean streak in them.

X Man made me think about something I had noticed, but could not put my finger on. When I did go to Insomnia it always seemed the girls went out of there way to be freindly to me, especially when the Mamasan was around.



[QUOTE=Hesekiels]AoS:

I cannot imagine that! As long as you pay some drinks you are always welcome! You are the customer and money talks! IMHO of course!


Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

1. Drink and get in a parting shot with the previous nights bf or a txt date. Begin new search for Ms Right Now.

2. Some of the higher end hotels do have a small gym. There is also a gym further out Perimeter which you can join on a short term basis.

3. To each there own-depends on much you like smog, expensive prices, and traffic. Some love Manila, some hate it. Personally, the only time I spend in Manila anymore is the time between landing at NAIA and hitting the tollway and then the reverse for the trip home. If you haven't been there before, maybe spend 2-3 days there

4. You will most likely get tired of AC (gasp-odd but true) after a few weeks. You can only do so much drinking and fucking before it becomes repetitive. Why not plan on staying in AC two weeks, then figure out your favorite and most attentive bf of the trip, make a deal with the papasan and take her to Boracay for a week. After that maybe Cebu for another week. 99. 99% of the bargirls would jump at that offer.

5. See # 4 above. A month in the Phils assuming you are not on a strict budget will be something you will never forget. You will not want to come back to "civilization"

[QUOTE=Blaktea]Gents (and maybe ladies)

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. What do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I don't hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? Taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the Philippines?

Blaktea

P. S Be careful with your posts, I will act on them! [/QUOTE]

I guess the authorities are once again flexing some mucsle. My contant has informed me that AGASYA Bar was raided along with the usual Bedrock and few others. Anyone there no anything about this?

Well AC has only one thing other wise nothing else. Sure you can take a tour to see mount P. Or maybe side trip to Subic. But why a whole month in one place escapes me. You may find a girl you really like and take her to Barocay, Cebu, but leave yourself flexable and not stay in one place. Yes Manila is not great. Yes Pleasure everywhere and massage places, bars, clubs and more excitement. But more money. It is well known that one night of pleasure in manila is the cost equal to 3 nights in a. C. Bar fines are triple in manila. Drinks more, lodging more. However having said all this I would suggest 2 nights in manila when you get there. Good affordable Hotel I like is Maramar Hotel, Aloha Hotel or Executive Plaza. All are in the entertainment area. If you want right in middle of excitement then Oxford Suites in bar area of makati is good but again pricier. Side trips from AC for few days are not to bad. I suggest Cubu, baracay, and maybe if you want a little cooler weather head for Baguio City. Enjoy if this is your first trip. Keep your mind aware of your surroundings. Remember you are a target cuz your a foriegner and to them you are money man. Girls know this, taxi know this, hotels know this. And con men on street know this. Stay in areas that tourist are in. Learn from the board how much it cost to get somewhere cuz if you not know you will be taken for. #1 suggestion. Act like you been there before. Act like a newbie and newbie will be taken for money ride. If you have question (s) ask some of the regulars on this board. We all had our first trip way back when.

Good Luck

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[QUOTE=Blaktea]Gents (and maybe ladies)

I find myself with a months vacation starting immediately and I've decided on the philippines and in particular AC. While searching the net and reading many of the AC posts,I notice the following:

1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?

2) Also I like to stay in shape and again very little on hotel gyms, are there any?

3) I dont hear many positive comments on Manila, is it worth a visit as the capital or should I give it a miss?

4) Is a whole month too long to stay in AC? taking into consideration 2.) above?

5) And finally what would you do with a month in the philippines?

Blaktea

P.s Be careful with your posts, I will act on them![/QUOTE]


Hi,
as for the gents speaking I assume you arrive on Nia..what time?? Well, after a long flight I recommend you stay first in a nice hotel and get adjusted to the weather here...Its not so hot now, cause its the rainy season, but it could also get quite hot sometimes.

For the first night I recommend to give Manila a try...If you take a cab its about 25 minutes from airport, depends on the traffic..A quite good and quiet hotel is Bayviewpark , facing Manila bay, best rates you get at asiatravel.com.

The good thing about bayview is, you just walk around the corner and you at Swagman hotel, where you can take fly the bus to angeles city..or just pass Swagmann , walk straight and turn left on 7/11 and go to souther star and take their Bus, its newer, the only donwturn is, swagman have 3 departures (11.30am, 3.30pm and 8.30pm)a day and southern just one(3.30pm), if Im not mistaken..

When staying in Manila, try LA cafe...enough info here just RTTF. Take any decent cab from there (decent means turn on the f..n meter) and tell him to go to Edsa entertainment complex Pasay..maybe 10 minutes from LA..Take a look there..Many bars inside..plenty of info here so, RTTF :D

if you into massage try Airforce one on pasay road..its near the airport or go to Don pedro massage in Makati (see my post).

I suggest after one night in Manila you take fly the bus to Angels city..where to stay look up on balibago.com...many hotels there...many info here also , RTTF :D

Ac has many bars, is cheaper and food is much better, better value for money..Now, withthe new superhi way from AC to Subic, you can get there easily and without any hassle. Just take fly the bus around 9.30 am or what I recomand take Southern star (new bus) around 8.45 am from orchid inn resort. price is around 400p if im not mistaken..

Subic has a beach, less nightlife as AC, but it has a beach :D, so either you bring ur honey ko to subic or u go there alone, after some hard drinkin nights in AC..plenty places to stay..cheap or upscale (wild orchid subic 3000p)

I go to ac evry weekend , so its ok, a week is also ok, two weeks also LOL, depends how much u can drink and how long you like to party..AC has not much to offer. they have some malls, but not a big as in manila or makati. You can watch a movie, enjoy some good coffee, take ur honey ko shopping.

AC has some good hotels with decent swimming pool, best of all in my opinion has wild orchid..you can allways use the pools, some hotel charge for that, some not, depends if u bring ur own 7/11 san migule beer with you ehehehe..

AC has also an airport. From Clark you can take a plane to many destinations in the Philippines. I recomand you fly when there is no TYPHOON around..its not so funny to fly into a typhoon..

So, to answer your questions, I cant..you have to try it out and then see for urself if its ok for you or if you bored about all the bargurls there who just want sex sex sex :D

Have a nice day

Blink

It's true that AC is short on daytime activities. I'm generally only there for a week, so it never becomes an issue for me; I just barhop or play pool or swim or screw my previous night's BF again.

Other options:

1) Spend some time in Subic, Cebu, Boracay, Baguio, or elsewhere. Read up on the PI on wikitravel or something and find out where you want to go. Depends on what you like to do.

2) Take a girl on vacation! I'm sure you can find a girl you like who would love to go to any or all of the above places with you. You'll have a harder time getting rid of her after than you will have getting her to go in the first place. Just find one you have some chemistry with, and pay her barfine for a few consecutive days. Find out what her off day is to make sure you don't pay the barfine on that day. If you don't want or can't afford to take one on a long trip, take one to Subic for a few days. The bus is probably 400-500 pesos each. Hotels are priced similarly to AC. Hit the beach a few days, come back, "divorce", find another girl, repeat.

3) Go to the mall, see a movie.

4) Diving is available in nearby Subic. If you're not certified, you can probably get certified and fill some afternoons.

5) If your hotel has a pool, there you go. You'll have lots of girls asking to come swimming.

When I'm surrounded by these girls, I always manage to find something to do.

[QUOTE=Blaktea]1) No real commentary on things to do during the day. what do you guys do during the day?
[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

agassya and vegas got raid last night....well, what can I say..that makes me quite sad :D


More info later on that :)

Happy weekend to all

Blink

[QUOTE=Blink157]I dont understand at all what she says :D Can you translate it into english??

Your a brave man, I would turn off ym allready after the 2nd line :D

Blink[/QUOTE]

Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?

[QUOTE=Bob Down]Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?[/QUOTE]

ok,
thanks for the translation, now I understand...that must be a very nice bar, cause my GF got fined when she absent, cause they know Im her boyfriend..well at least for them...I dont pay a steady barfine (whats that? LOL) when she work I have to pay her regulary or she will come after work to me if I txt her and I give her money. She went back to the bar cause she needs money and Im not so much in love to feel to support her, why should I do this?? doesnt make sense to me, but when she comes around I allways give her money, no big deal for me...she works in the bar and most of her money went home to her relatives and other suckers...poor gurl, but I told her many times, get rid of ur family, you did allready worked in a bar and now they will suck evry penny out of you, cause ur the one who knows foreigners....maybe one day she will understand....

Its going to be rainy, one hour more and I will hit the road, I decided to go straight to ac, they have a pool party at Pacific breeze with stunners from other bars and staff so I give it a try over there and I hope we dont get raided hahahaha...

Blink out

I met a girl, from bar a in bar b. Girl A was a dancer and Bar b was a dance club too, and I met her in front of the toilets. She was on bar fine but remembered me from bar a. We chatted, and I gave her my card. Before the end of my trip we got together, fkd like rabbits, and her pictures once adorned the ISG thread.

Six months later, I gave her a call, and we were once again doing the rabbit routine. Then she invited me to her bar. What? She introduced me as her boyfriend and everything was cool.

I assume the boyfriend excuse can happen only so often - I never asked for it.


[QUOTE=Bob Down]Ok Blink, in english just for you.

Last time I was in AC she took two night off to spend with me, told daddy she had a friend visiting.

If a girl in the bar has one and only one boyfriend, he doesn't have to pay her barfine every night. But as I am not her boyfriend I would have to pay to take her out.

I am wondering about your girlfriend and long time barfine in AC. Are you still paying the bar to take her out? or will mamasan let her leave as she is your girlfriend.

I have read about long term barfines, but you have to pay xxx amount up front before the girl is free to take out of the bar at anytime. Is this what you did?[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen (and clearly no ladies)

Thanks for your advice, I’ve decided to stay 2 nights in Manila just for a look see. As I love malls and people watching I’ve chosen the Holiday Inn Galleria which I believe is attached to the popular Robinsons mall and is a small distance from the Megamall, plus they also have a hotel gym. Any tips on Mall Mongering? Is it simple eye contact and make your move?

I’m a little hazy on the location of LA café and EDSA in relation to the holiday Inn but I assume it’s a short taxi ride for both as I intend to hit both spots before heading off to AC. By many accounts it appears that Makati is not worth a visit and is going down hill, I wouldn’t know but many posts suggest that the best looking girls are still in this area but the service is often below par, I haven’t made up my mind on this area yet.

Now in regards to AC, clearly nobody recommends more than a couple of weeks in AC and quite frankly I’m shocked! So I need to rethink my options and bone up on Subic, Cebu and Boracay. I’ll research this while staying in AC if I need to (I. E. If I get bored) however I do like the idea of finding a sweetie and taking her away for a few days, only thing is how clingy are these girls after you do this? I don’t want to spend my time dodging possessive women as I look for my next sweetie.

Thanks to all for the advice. PI newbie will follow.

Blaktea

Ps whats the ATM situation like in AC?

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi guys,

agassya and vegas got raid last night....well, what can I say..that makes me quite sad :D


[/QUOTE]


Don't tell us that Las Vegas is closed now!?


Cheers - Hesekiels

I just booked my flight. I am surprised it ended up as low as it did. Round trip NWA with using 30, 000 ff miles, $784. 30. I fly out of Rochester, NY at 12:39pm on the 24th and arrive in Pi at 10: 30pm the 25th. 23 hours total, thats pretty good from the east coast. I leave Pi August 5 at 7:45am and get home at 4:29pm the same day (sorta) LOL. The flight actually went down $200. 00 this week. Anyone in town at this time?

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Don't tell us that Las Vegas is closed now!?


Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

It's open.

Blaktea,

I enjoy the PI, but I am not enamored with it and prefer Thailand. Still, I make an annual trek to the PI, as it can be fun for a while. Take my comments in that context, and I'm sure other more diehard fans can give you the other side of it from their perspective.

[QUOTE=Blaktea]<cutAny tips on Mall Mongering? Is it simple eye contact and make your move? [/QUOTE]

This is just a generalization. It's similar to other parts of the world, since the basic game is the same, but of course it's more difficult in the so called "developed" countries. The girls are a little more open, so the signals a bit more clear. They seem to keep eye contact a bit longer and usually flash a smile back. It really will depend on your confidence, willingness to make your move and pickup skills. You will have your chances.

[QUOTE=Blaktea]<cut>By many accounts it appears that Makati is not worth a visit and is going down hill, I wouldn’t know but many posts suggest that the best looking girls are still in this area but the service is often below par, I haven’t made up my mind on this area yet.[/QUOTE]

I have enjoyed my visits to the Burgos Street bars and other Makati bars. Some nice talent available, but the main drawback is price. It's 3-4 times what you pay in AC, but of course, there's better talent on display. Some will argue different on the looks available, but that's my opinion. Worth a few days, if you have never been there. I don't mind the prices, so it's worth a stop for me. I have not encountered the recent LE hassles, so that could change my mind, but AC is having some issues of it's own.

[QUOTE=Blaktea]Now in regards to AC, clearly nobody recommends more than a couple of weeks in AC and quite frankly I’m shocked! So I need to rethink my options and bone up on Subic, Cebu and Boracay. I’ll research this while staying in AC if I need to (I. E. If I get bored) however I do like the idea of finding a sweetie and taking her away for a few days, only thing is how clingy are these girls after you do this? I don’t want to spend my time dodging possessive women as I look for my next sweetie.[/QUOTE]

A week is all that I need in AC. The drinking and girls are all that is there. Some like the "slow to a crawl" life style and can stay longer, but I can't put up with it for too long. The routine becomes eat at 6pm, drink at 7pm, start the real party at 8pm and drink till 2am to 4am, barfine the girl and shag her back at the hotel. Sleep through noon, have lunch, and either hit the mall, play pool, swim in the pool, or take a Siesta till the routine starts up again. The girls can be sweet and some can turn frigid the moment you take them from the bar. The better looking the girl, the more likely you will have issues, since the average to below average girls will try harder to keep you as a regular. Many will get clingy, others understand the game better. There are some real GFE's, that make some visits worth while. The lack of dining options is a drawback.

Cebu and Boracay are worth a visit, but Subic even with the improvements\development just sucks IMHO. Too long a drive to get to nowhere and see nothing.

Enjoy your visit, since in the end, it will be an experience and have it's ups and downs. There will be things that will open your eyes, and some very humorous moments. In the end, you will get laid many times and meet some sweethearts.

Good luck!
AT2

If anyone can help me I'd truly appreciate it. Does AC have anyplace like BKK's Eden or Pattayas Hell club? What I mean is there anyplace that offers the yellow line option with pretty much whatever you want service? I have a high heel fetish. For the BG's not me haha. Can traditional high heel pumps be purchased somewhere in AC? When trying out the blowrow I don't pop very fast that way usually not at all. Any idea what the time limit would be? Do they do the "come on baby you need to get your business done" hurry up routine? Have I got the pricing as a newbie to AC right. 1200-1300 all inclusive + tip depending 300? Anyone got any thoughts on pricing when taking 2 or more out? Do you get a discount for multiple girls. Everywhere else I've been I would offer less than double the going single rate. Less as the number of girls goes up. Last question for now. Do the AC BGs do the brazil feista thing? Is doing a fiesta with say half dozen BGs workable or shiifts of girls doable there? Thanks for any help you can through my way. Wheels up mid August. Still trying to find a reasonable ticket somewhere. Best so far from the midwest is $1600 USD.

with all this talk about raids in ac...you have to keep things in perspective. most of the time a "raid" is simply authorities coming in and randomly checking girl's id's and health checks, and making sure the bar has proper paperwork. ive actually been in a bar twice during such a "raid", and probably 1/3 of the girls simply vanish into no where (where the fuck do they go?!?!?!), otherwise its not that big of a deal. and yes, they will close bar for something as silly as a girl's forgotten health check for the week. it's not often it happens though. every once in a very blue moon a bar will be shut down "semi-permanently" due to employing an **** girl...but frankly i havent heard of that in a long time.

ymmv of course, and just my observation. but make sure you arent caught carrying drugs or anything. every once in awhile they'll check out the visitors.

[QUOTE=Blink157].....She went back to the bar cause she needs money and Im not so much in love to feel to support her, why should I do this?? doesnt make sense to me, but when she comes around I allways give her money, no big deal for me...she works in the bar and most of her money went home to her relatives and other suckers...poor gurl, but I told her many times, get rid of ur family, you did allready worked in a bar and now they will suck evry penny out of you, cause ur the one who knows foreigners....maybe one day she will understand....
Blink out[/QUOTE]

Hi Blink

How long have you been living in PI? To ask a Filipino to turn on their family is like asking ole Dub to give up on Iraq. Like asking Bin Laden to sit down for a cup of tea with the Pope.

I watched my ole lady's mother work herself to the bone in Japan to take care of her family back in PI. Slaving away at some cosmetic factory. Now she needs assistance and the bastards are nowhere to be found. Yeah I could step in with my deep pockets and wipe the slate clean but I am trying to teach her and my ole lady about the true value of "family." No one in the "family" is volunteering to help not even her cousin who is worth in money and assets damn near $500,000.

Boy I tell you this is a fucked up world....

[QUOTE=X Man]I met a girl, from bar a in bar b. Girl A was a dancer and Bar b was a dance club too, and I met her in front of the toilets. She was on bar fine but remembered me from bar a. We chatted, and I gave her my card. Before the end of my trip we got together, fkd like rabbits, and her pictures once adorned the ISG thread.

Six months later, I gave her a call, and we were once again doing the rabbit routine. Then she invited me to her bar. What? She introduced me as her boyfriend and everything was cool.

I assume the boyfriend excuse can happen only so often - I never asked for it.[/QUOTE]

Sadly for me my girl can not use the boyfriend excuse, the owner knows my girl pretty well.

Blink,

In my report about my chat with my girl she spoke about friend A and friend B, one night I was walking past friend A's bar when she called me in. I bought one drink and asked her if she wanted me to barfine her. She said she was going to quit the bar that night and if I pay her barfine she would not get comission, so she agreed to meet in kokomos at 8 pm.

At 8 pm she turned up with friend B, we went to Atlantis for the body painting show ( maybe I have a picture of your girlfriend? ) then friend A and B came back to my room. Friend B only gives blow jobs as she has a pinoy bf, but I fucked friend A who also has a pinoy bf. Go figure! I gave friend A some money and friend B got half price for the blow job.

Did see friend A one more time before I left, she went barhopping with some guy told me she would meet me at 1 am at my room. She ended up knocking on my door at 2am. Too tired to fuck her at 2am so went back to sleep and fucked her in the morning.

[QUOTE=D Etat]Hi Blink

How long have you been living in PI? To ask a Filipino to turn on their family is like asking ole Dub to give up on Iraq. Like asking Bin Laden to sit down for a cup of tea with the Pope.

I watched my ole lady's mother work herself to the bone in Japan to take care of her family back in PI. Slaving away at some cosmetic factory. Now she needs assistance and the bastards are nowhere to be found. Yeah I could step in with my deep pockets and wipe the slate clean but I am trying to teach her and my ole lady about the true value of "family." No one in the "family" is volunteering to help not even her cousin who is worth in money and assets damn near $500,000.

Boy I tell you this is a fucked up world....[/QUOTE]

I have a girl in Bangkok, same story. Her cousins father comes from a rich family but her cousin could not lend her the money that she needed.

Think about it this way, you have earned big money through hard work or other means. Why give that money to someone who hasn't earned it. Family or other wise. Look after parents and children, everyone else is on their own.

They can have any number of extended family and you can't save them all. Give to one give to all.

Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls!

I'll be in Manila the first few days of August. PM me if you're up for a pub crawl. I'm also using NWA, but leave on the 4th.

X

[QUOTE=Fordtech]I just booked my flight. I am surprised it ended up as low as it did. Round trip NWA with using 30, 000 ff miles, $784. 30. I fly out of Rochester, NY at 12:39pm on the 24th and arrive in Pi at 10: 30pm the 25th. 23 hours total, thats pretty good from the east coast. I leave Pi August 5 at 7:45am and get home at 4:29pm the same day (sorta) LOL. The flight actually went down $200. 00 this week. Anyone in town at this time?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mozzee]Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. [/QUOTE]


... you are planning to take a girl together with your wife!? Why not - if she is that open minded! :) However, no problem at all! :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Pute Nut]It's open.[/QUOTE]


Thank G*d! Las Vegas was namely always my "last hope"! :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

Hi,

I just wanted to add my experience with threesomes. Even though we are talking about bar girls here, some have an undercurrent of conservatism still running through them. Bottom line.- you've got to be careful about choosing the right girl.

My GF and I always ask them in a relaxed manner about whether they have ever been with a girl, whether they liked it etc etc. The other one I like is to tell them when we pulled them out of the lineup is that I didn't choose them but my GF did. I tell them that my GF always chooses the girl.- true. (I've picked lots of gorgeous duds over the years) Gives them the hint. Also, my GF usually tries to do the eye contact thing with prospective girls to see if they are game prior to buying a drink.

My GF is Filipina and so I've often asked her why some bar girls are reluctant to go with girls. She says that a lot of Filipina just view it as weird, and again an undercurrent of conservatism. As an example of the undercurrent, one time I was sucking and banging the. Out of a Filipina bar girl. She was having a great time and I said ". , you're such a bad girl" She immediately interjected mid performance "No! I'm a good girl! ". OK. Didn't miss a beat ". You're such a good girl! ".- true also!

The good news. There are lots of hot Filipina bar girls who are totally game. There are plenty who are totally curious also. And there are those who won't be into it. (I'd go light on the toys to begin with)

Regardless, of the advice in picking up the right chick, bar girls are generally happy to see other chicks in the bars. I think they find it interesting as compared to the day in day out middle aged dudes (like me.). Also your wife should tell them how beautiful they are etc etc.

We've had better luck with girls in Manila regarding the threesomes. Ace from Flamingos a total porn star.- she and I simultaneously licked by GFs **** to orgasm.-get excited just thinking about the two tongues. Crystal from Hollywood not far behind. I watched her and my GF lick each other to orgasm prior to banging them both. If in Manila, Flamingos is a good spot for uninhibited girls. You can just ask at the bar for the girl by name.

Final recommendation is that if you really get along with a hot chick, take her to Boracay with your wife. A totally hot time.

At AC, I would stay at ABC with a jacuzzi.- enough said.

JC

P.S. Your wife is hot.- have a great time!

[QUOTE=Mozzee]Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls![/QUOTE]You won't have any problems. I've seen other couples doing the same. I expect you'll both be quite popular.

[QUOTE=Mozzee]Hey Guys,

My wife and I are planning a trip to AC in August and I am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. And whats it like in AC in August?

I've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls![/QUOTE]

You'll find some T-Birds at Dollhouse and other Fields bars. Your wife is blonde so that should be no problem. I'll be there after August 25th if you want to double (or triple) date.LOL

[QUOTE=Figures]If anyone can help me I'd truly appreciate it. Does AC have anyplace like BKK's Eden or Pattayas Hell club.[/QUOTE]

No,nothing that organized. That would be too close to "prostitution" in the Phils.

[QUOTE=FireWalker]You'll find some T-Birds at Dollhouse and other Fields bars. Your wife is blonde so that should be no problem. I'll be there after August 25th if you want to double (or triple) date.LOL[/QUOTE]T-Birds are threesome girls I take it? We'll be having a girl each rather than three-in-a-bed, the wife just wants to handcuff them, so long as the girl has a willing tongue!

Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.

Be safe, Ric

[QUOTE=Mozzee]T-Birds are threesome girls I take it? We'll be having a girl each rather than three-in-a-bed, the wife just wants to handcuff them, so long as the girl has a willing tongue!

Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.

Be safe, Ric[/QUOTE]Most hotels have both 220 and 110 outlets, but just to be safe 220 is the widely accepted standard.

I have been able to confirm last night that the Agasya bar is closed. Unconfirmed sources are saying that the reason for the NBI raid that happened a few days ago (at both Agasya and Las Vegas club) were that Agasya was allowing EWR'S (local term Early Work Release, been in use for a while to replace the word/term barfine). If this proves to be true, then AC is in the same mode as january 2008 when this happened (EWR's were deemed illegal) and raids continued to happen for almost a weeks time. This is (YET AGAIN) a sad time for AC.

Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mozzee]
Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.

[/QUOTE]

The RATING as I understand it is usually 220 (and 110) Volts. Right now I'm GETTING about 233-235 ;)

Many modern chargers etc are multivoltage type (typically 100-240 V) and those should be usually no problem, but anything sensitive that requires a stable voltage should NOT be plugged into a PI outlet w/o a voltage regulator.

[quote=mozzee]hey guys,

my wife and i are planning a trip to ac in august and i am wondering what the reaction will be when we go looking for girls in bars. and whats it like in ac in august?

i've added a pic of the wife with a few of her toys she likes to use on pretty girls![/quote]
you wife will love it. pinay girls will lick a snatch but don't like being licked by a girl. at least my recruits. i can talk them into it, and the lapper is all gung ho, but the lapee girls get upset after a little while. it is like they are enjoying something they shouldn't be enjoying and get this sad, scared look on their face. even a butt licking girl i pal around with that recuits some great prospects for me started crying when a hot 3-holer from her bar started licking her. . we had to hold one girl down she was squirming so bad and she started crying so we let her go. this was my experiences when i get 3 in my sack. i thought it was very strange that they were so willing to lick but wierded out when getting licked themselves.

Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mozzee]Does anyone know what the mains power is rated at in Angeles...220v ? I'm thinking ; recharging camera batteries / wifes hair dryer, tongs etc.[/QUOTE]Many hotels in AC have both 220 and 110 available.
Have a great trip!

Yes club class is onon the second floor I beleave its near Caresel but correct me if I am wrong. It is a small disco and yes the girls can be BF but its more of a disco than anything else. The girls usually only about 5 or 6 of them stay together and dance on same dance floor with usually men that have bf from girls from other clubs. The Papason is very young in his early 30s maybe late 20s. Nice kid who is married to a pinay. Can not remember his name but irish guy and will make you feel at home.

[QUOTE=Andre007]Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Its a disco on Fields ave. Music is very loud and the girls love to go there.

[QUOTE=Andre007]Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks[/QUOTE]It is located above the Bunny Ranch bar on Fields ave. It is a mixture. It is a disco type place but they have GRO's (Guest Relations Officers) there dancing in club wear that you can at your option barfine/ewr, but most of the guys i know go there with girls already in tow.

[QUOTE=Madness2169]Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks[/QUOTE]#1 Most guys I know plan to spend between $150 and $200 per day in AC. If you are a bell ringer or like to have more than one girl per day/night then add another $50 or so.

#2 Reliability and Internet are honestly two words that here in AC and the Philippines should NEVER be used together, that said, most of the middle to high end hotels have in room or wireless Internet. I have heard that PB (Pacific Breeze) usually has a good wireless Internet signal on most days (remember the hotel cannot do anything if the Internet service provider sucks and most of them here do suck).

#3 Sound to me like you have two category choices - #1 would be the BIG bars (Such as Doll house, Atlantis, Crystal Palace) in the big bars, you are far away from the girls as these are 2 and 3 story/level buildings. #2 would be the smaller bars up on perimeter road that are known to be customer friendly and not aggressive (perimeter bars prices average P60 for local drinks, vs P85-P95 for fields drinks). Perimeter bars I would suggest are LIA (lost in Asia), Roadies, Stargate, Honey Ko's, Fire and Ice, Emotions, Cherry's club and Stampede.

#4 - I live here so that would not be a problem, when it gets closer to your arrival, shoot me a PM and we can try to hook up and party around the town.

I can also suggest that if you are a newbie in town to go to the BIG TABLE (is the large wooden table) inside of Kokomo's sit down and order a drink, there are usually many guys at the BIG TABLE (both tourists and expats), just introduce yourself, tell them you are new in town and ask anyone if they would like to bar hop.

[QUOTE=Andre007]Has anyone ever heard of this place?? Is it Disco or Barfine Bar?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
hi,
maybe the name is topclass disco..Its a disco for foreigners, I think no pinoy kid allwed to go inside..unlike skytrax where all the scumbags hang around(sorry but as of now I havent seen any decent "local" going there)..

Its near bunny ranch , you need to climb some stairs up then you in..I think all the staff can be barfined, inlcuding the guard :D..

Oh , I forgt, no barfine in AC , that would be prostitution, would it?

Blink :)

[QUOTE=Acfreddie]I have been able to confirm last night that the Agasya bar is closed. Unconfirmed sources are saying that the reason for the NBI raid that happened a few days ago (at both Agasya and Las Vegas club) were that Agasya was allowing EWR'S (local term Early Work Release, been in use for a while to replace the word/term barfine). If this proves to be true, then AC is in the same mode as january 2008 when this happened (EWR's were deemed illegal) and raids continued to happen for almost a weeks time. This is (YET AGAIN) a sad time for AC.[/QUOTE]

Hmm, korean owned places :D...well Im quite sad now....

nice gurl working there...wonder where they are now? Maybe on dateinasia.com? hahahahaha...


Blink :)

[QUOTE=Madness2169]Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

1. Roughly, how much money should I bring with me to AC for 3 weeks (Ex. flight/hotel)? To be safe, what percentage should I actually bring with and what percentage should I be taking from the ATM?

2. Which hotel offers the most reliable wireless internet?

3. I'm more laid back and private individual, so which bar(s) should I be focusing on?

4. Is anyone else planning to be in AC around Nov. and willing to show this newbie some pointers? I'll buy the drinks :)

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Hi,
ACfreddy gave allready good info. Just let me add some facts..

Never carry more cash around as what you like to spend for the day/evening.

Which means if you draw from ATM just only take the cash with you, you really wanted to spend for this day..Deposit the rest in your hotel safety box or elsewhere..I m going to SEA since many years and now living here..I never got anything stolen in the Philippines..thailand yes..thats another story :D

Why im telling you this?? Cause the more you drink, the more you will e encouraged from the gurls to spend and buy and later you will find urself somewhere in ur hotel room, big head and the money from last night is just gone :D Happens to me all the time....

Secound, get a wing man who watch you on ur first barhopping..Kokomoz is ok to get some contacts..guys will sureley help you.

Third, if you smell trouble, walk away, no need to play the hero. Phils aint ur country, if u mess with one guy , you mess with them all :D.....so be smart, walk away, smile, you be ok

Fourth, avoid streethookers,if you want a gurl, barfine in the bar, avoid anything which will be offerd you on the street..Cialis, viagra , etc..ask some papa sans from bar , they will help you to get the right stuff.Check out the bar named "The club" if you into those things..Its allready been told many times, but I will tell it once more in here. AVoid any invitation from locals to a cardgame..or maybe house cooking, drinkin session etc etc etc..Its unusal for a normal filipino that they will approach you with something, exception is they want some thing from you..YOUR money :D so, skip those "people"

I guess that be all for today ....PM me for more info.I be around also ;-)


Blink

[QUOTE=Madness2169]Hello guys,

After months of research, I've finally decided to take my first trip to AC. I'll be leaving in Nov. and flying from LAX to MNL(roughly, $1000-1200 round-trip) for about 3 weeks. I'm still feel little nervous, even after practically reading all the reports on here and other similar site. I still have some questions, if you guy can help me out with:

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It looks like acfreddie has you covered, but I would like to add that the ride from the airport to AC is an experience in itself. It takes you through most of the city, where you will see block after block of poverty. People selling food on the roads, weaving their way through traffic, and it will take a long while before you even hit the "freeway". If you are arriving at night, it's even more depressing. Then you start to wonder if you will ever reach the damn place. After a few hours and change, you finally arrive and it takes a while to get comfortable with the environment.

On my first visit, I was lost and it was also nothing like it is now. It was my 2nd trip that I began to figure things out. You have the benefit of this forum and someone like acfreddie! Be thankful! I do, however, have some fond memories of all the mistakes that I made!

Peace,
AT2

Just a theory....

The earlier Western bar shake downs were because the K places gave up a bit too much booty, and those who can do shakedowns tried to get the same from the Western oriented bars.

When Western oriented bars were reluctant, started talking about moving to a more friendly beachside place, just down the new road ...the shakedowners had a moment of reflection.

But of course the K places probably got an earful about how things work in Angels city ...so they decided to fall in line and pay the going rate. Shakedowners probably weren't happy with that at all, so they did the thing they believe will best increase cash flow.

Koreans are proud and stubborn, and usually good business men. It'll be interesting to see how things turn out.

Blink, stop being so sarcastic.

X

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hmm, korean owned places :D...well Im quite sad now....

nice gurl working there...wonder where they are now? Maybe on dateinasia.com? hahahahaha...


Blink :)[/QUOTE]

AT2, this is an excellent post.

I try to put myself in the newcomers shoes, and post accordingly, but I rarely get the mood as you do so well in this post.

If you've never been to a third world country, it is (or should be) a life altering experience.

As for Manila is starts as you leave the airport, walk out the door and see hundreds of people standing behind the barriers....it may see like they are all looking at you. They are, for the moment.

DISCLAIMER: My first Philippines adventure included a seaside view of Mt. Mayon and a walk across "Shit River Bridge". This was the time before air travel.

Some neighborhoods look really run down and many Westerners equate that with high-crime areas. Well, you never know what can happen when people are desperate, but generally Filipinos are curious about you, usually not dangerous. I'm a big ugly American, and I've walked down some strange Philippine paths, but have always prevailed with my best weapon -- a smile.

If you are scared out of your boots, you will increase your risk. Look calm, and talk calmly to people. Smile. Don't be rude.

Oh, and let's be real, lock the doors of the taxi.

AS2, we need more post like that. Thanks. Got me to thinking all kinds of shit from my many PI adventures.

X

[QUOTE=AsiaTraveler2]It looks like acfreddie has you covered, but I would like to add that the ride from the airport to AC is an experience in itself. It takes you through most of the city, where you will see block after block of poverty. People selling food on the roads, weaving their way through traffic, and it will take a long while before you even hit the "freeway". If you are arriving at night, it's even more depressing. Then you start to wonder if you will ever reach the damn place. After a few hours and change, you finally arrive and it takes a while to get comfortable with the environment.

On my first visit, I was lost and it was also nothing like it is now. It was my 2nd trip that I began to figure things out. You have the benefit of this forum and someone like acfreddie! Be thankful! I do, however, have some fond memories of all the mistakes that I made!

Peace,
AT2[/QUOTE]

Thanks everyone. Your posts were both very informative and extremely helpful. All my major hang-ups have been resolved and I'm going to book my flight/hotel now. Just have to wait patiently until November now.

Thanks again

[QUOTE=X Man

Blink, stop being so sarcastic.

X[/QUOTE]

sorry I dont like them...in general speaking..can you belive that in subic some bars have plates/signs on the entree which says: ONLY KOREANS ALOWED...hahaha....now ok I wont go there anyway and Im sure they also dont like me, but as a pinoy(Im german) living there...hell, if somebody would post that in my country...well...that wont gona happen anyway...With all due respect, we just guest here and if we dont like things, we can allways go back into our country or some other country. you have to be here xman and then you can see how those "excellent business man" behave in public..

Anyway, Im not sad :D

Blink out

I am with Blink completely. THEY are the racist MFs trying to keep EVERYBODY else out of "their" places.

The Koreans think they have their own places in the PI where no one else can go. They need to be confronted and challenged about that; they can do it in Korea, but the Philippines is a sovereign nation and they do not own it. I'd like to see even more hassling of Korean businesses by the police, mayor's office, the association of bar owners you name it. Everybody should gang up on them to make them feel unwelcome in every non Korean owned bar or hotel until they stop the discriminatory BS. Banning smoking in bars would have the same effect as they ALL chain smoke and would not stay long in any place that bans smoking (well they would light up anyway ignoring the ban until they were forced to put out their death sticks or leave-it is a shame that smoking related illness is so slow to develop!)

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi,

Maybe the name is topclass disco. Its a disco for foreigners, I think no pinoy kid allwed to go inside. Unlike skytrax where all the scumbags hang around (sorry but as of now I haven't seen any decent "local" going there).

Its near bunny ranch, you need to climb some stairs up then you in. I think all the staff can be barfined, inlcuding the guard: D.

Oh, I forgt, no barfine in AC, that would be prostitution, would it?

Blink [/QUOTE]Thank you to all who assisted.

Andre

I will be in Ac on July 26th and leave the 5th. of August. This is trip #5 and I have never had a problem at all. Your cherry trip you will be very nervous but like many of said you will meet alot of guys that will give you pointers along the way. I only carry enough cash to get thu the night, I have had to come back to the hotel for more cash but thats not a problem. I am not a heavy drinker at all and I advise not being one either. I have seen drunk guys taken advantage of.

I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Figures]I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Wild orchid is a nice place and I would say it has the nicest pool in angels city, sunken bar etc..
YOu get either their deluxe room for 3900p or 2900p on special days during week (when Im not there...typical grrrrr) or their suite rooms, which I havent taken yet. I stayed there one time some weeks ago when evrything was fully booked and I had a special gurl with me...
High Heels to buy for the gurls? Well I guess they bring that for you, but ok, you can allways bring them to sm clark and take them to a shopping tour. I just wouldnt show up on sundays(family days) with a hooker, wearing heavy make up and high heels , hehehehe...but even you do, its ok, who cares...

wild orchid has a very gud location. you walk out , cross the street and you can have a bj for 600p if you like (and if you brave enough, coz some of them have really scary looks :D)
walk right and you find shanos.which is affilated to wildorchid..has sportsbar, gud menue, draft beer and waitresses you can barfine..

You will have a good time :)


Blink

[QUOTE=Figures]I'm thinking of staying at the Wild Orchid Hotel do to it's close proximity to Santos and I have heard the pool is nice. I was quoted a balcony room overlooking the pool for P4, 400 VAT included per night. Does anyone have any knowledge of this place? I thought hanging out at the pool during the day would cool. Also does anyone know if I can buy high heels at the mall for the BG's to wear for me or buy them here and bring them with me to be sure. If anyone is going to be around I would like to find a wingman. I'll be there for a week arriving August 20th.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

The Wild Orchid is a great option. I highly recommend it. Its close to all the action the food is great and the staff are friendly. I will be staying at ABC next visit though just for a test run. ACPD is setting in.

Take it sleazy

Hey, that might have been me! Please elaborate!

X

[QUOTE=Fordtech]I have seen drunk guys taken advantage of.[/QUOTE]

Blink,

Have you ever thought that their teeny dinkies (guys at ISG tell me this, I really never saw a Korean dick) and their notorious inability to speak English may make them so insecure that would rather not have competition from the likes of you?

It might be interesting to go to those exclusive places and ask "WHY"?

Recently AC Hrry the Horse had some very negative comments about K guys, mostly for the same reasons as Blink mentioned. His intent was to bar any K from his establishment (Blue Boar Inn and Restaurant). Wow, that shocked me. Any Korean that would wander down that direction and find the place, and be ready and willing to speak English should be give a beer on the house. That is the kind of guy that we need to encourage.

If Hrry keeps his word and bars entry, that K guy will be posting a message in Hangul about how the friggin westerners hate Koreans and you should avoid them at all costs. BTW, Koreans are wired...very wired.

I have a Korean friend who helped my buy the computer I'm now working on. Loud, sometimes obnoxious, but a good guy and a good friend. One of my best sexual experiences was as a teenager being ravished my an older Korean divorcee (in USA). Vagina muscles that were out of this world.

Yes, I know they tend to be loud, exclusive, and sometimes aggressive.

Damn, if your country was a perpetual battlefield ,unfortunately located between such large and "friendly" neighbors as Russia, China and Japan, you might be a bit cranky too! :-)

I'm not disagreeing with you Blink, just want to give a different perspective.

X


[QUOTE=Blink157]sorry I dont like them...in general speaking..can you belive that in subic some bars have plates/signs on the entree which says: ONLY KOREANS ALOWED...hahaha....now ok I wont go there anyway and Im sure they also dont like me, but as a pinoy(Im german) living there...hell, if somebody would post that in my country...well...that wont gona happen anyway...With all due respect, we just guest here and if we dont like things, we can allways go back into our country or some other country. you have to be here xman and then you can see how those "excellent business man" behave in public..

Anyway, Im not sad :D

Blink out[/QUOTE]

Acqua

Your barfine of a couple of weeks ago who said, "I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart." was she from Dollhouse? I would really like to know.

Noguera

[QUOTE=Noguera]Acqua

Your barfine of a couple of weeks ago who said, "I knew when I came to AC not to bring my heart." was she from Dollhouse? I would really like to know.

Noguera[/QUOTE]Noguera,

Nah, she was from either Lollipop or La Bamba-I can't remember which as I was pretty blitzed. Either way, I haven't bf'ed from Dollhouse in over two years.

Just curious. A couple of months ago I had a Dollhouse girl tell me almost the exact same thing. She was actually really quite sweet.

Noguera

[QUOTE=Noguera]Just curious. A couple of months ago I had a Dollhouse girl tell me almost the exact same thing. She was actually really quite sweet.

Noguera[/QUOTE]Noguera, no problem man. The girl I was referring one was actually pretty sweet also. I was chatting with her on ym earlier and the bar was Lollipop. She says she never worked at Dollhouse, but who knows if she is telling me the truth or not.

A link to Angeles City Magazine, a freebie giveaway in AC, which has a complete listing of hotels with contact information and prices, as well as bar listings and map, upcoming events, articles on life in AC.

[url]http://www.cityofangelsmagazine.com/[/url]

Hope some of you heading to AC find thie useful!

Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

Spitz

[QUOTE=HornyGeorge]I am with Blink completely. THEY are the racist MFs trying to keep EVERYBODY else out of "their" places.

The Koreans think they have their own places in the PI where no one else can go. They need to be confronted and challenged about that; they can do it in Korea, but the Philippines is a sovereign nation and they do not own it. I'd like to see even more hassling of Korean businesses by the police, mayor's office, the association of bar owners you name it. Everybody should gang up on them to make them feel unwelcome in every non Korean owned bar or hotel until they stop the discriminatory BS. Banning smoking in bars would have the same effect as they ALL chain smoke and would not stay long in any place that bans smoking (well they would light up anyway ignoring the ban until they were forced to put out their death sticks or leave-it is a shame that smoking related illness is so slow to develop!)[/QUOTE]I want to tell you one experience in Manila. I was leaving the LA cafe and took a cab to Miss Universal. Wanting to see some nookie before taking it back hopefully. I got there. And they were not open yet. Blah blah. Etc. Thank goodness this driver waited to see if I got in or not. He suggested that he could take me to a spot that he knew about. I only remember that is was about 6-8 blocks away from the Miss U. We parked in the back and waited for a few minutes. He assured me that the girls would be starting to work in a few minutes. There was this big picture window. And sure enough about 25 gals came out standing around this window for about 3 minutes. They were all knock outs. And one tall one really caught my eye. They then left the area apparently to another area. The driver took me to the entrance. There were 3 filipinos at the entrance and looked at me and said I was not welcome. I started laughing and was intent on getting that one knockout. I pulled out a $100 bill and said that this might change their mind. The look on the driver's face. Hahaha. The guy at the front door. Said no way yank. Korean only. I then pulled out another $100 and said that maybe my friend wants to join me also. Again I got refused. ! The driver looked at the guy guarding the door and called him a dumb f*ckin Filipino. And we left. We laughed so hard in the taxi on the way to Burgos. And talking about the Korean attitude in Manila. As he said probably some type of higher end of Korean business men funding the place. Set up with philippine women searching for the talent. It was a good experience to see how things can work in the Philippines. But damn. That girl was hot.

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[QUOTE=Onkelspitzz]Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

Spitz[/QUOTE]Are you sure that you had gonohrrea from a BBBJ, would be interessing to know as I always had think that you could not get gonohrrea or syphillis from receiving oral sex.

[QUOTE=Onkelspitzz]Just returned from my 2 weeks trip in Angeles. It was great but after one week my dick was burning by pissing! The doctor examined a sexually transmitted disease: Gonorrhoea!

I am not sure where I got it.

I got blow jobs from girls from Doll-House, Blue-Nile, Welcome Inn and Santos street (Honky Tonk)!!! Don´t make sex - fuck and blow jo without condom!

Spitz[/QUOTE]

STDs go with fucking like death with war. Always keep the plastic.

Have any of you stayed at Medgar Executive apartelle In angeles. I would love to here any feedback on this place verse staying at the usual hotels. I just do not remember ever seeing it in my trips in AC. But hey I was not there to check out where to stay. Obviously my"checking out" was more focused in other directions.

[QUOTE=Dcand4]Have any of you stayed at Medgar Executive apartelle In angeles. I would love to here any feedback on this place verse staying at the usual hotels. I just do not remember ever seeing it in my trips in AC. But hey I was not there to check out where to stay. Obviously my"checking out" was more focused in other directions.[/QUOTE]Hi,

I didnt stayed there but I went there to check the rooms, they look ok and nicely and new decorated. Why I didnt stay there? The noise, its on the main street and if you love noise its the place to stay. Maybe its more silent during night. Not sure. I gues they give now some more discount, I would only stay in the bigger rooms. YOu have to go there and check out the noise level, if its ok for you its a good place to stay.

I prefer Central park or orchid inn , swiss chalet or pacific breeze..They have really quiet rooms, not all, but I make sure I get one :D

Blink

[QUOTE=D Etat]STDs go with fucking like death with war. Always keep the plastic.[/QUOTE]I will keep that in mind when I am in AC next week! I just hope that the rubbers won't break as often as last time!

Cheers,

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I will keep that in mind when I am in AC next week! I just hope that the rubbers won't break as often as last time! :)


Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]On my various pillages of Bangkok and Pattaya I have found KY to be an effective eliminator of broken condom syndrome.

Take It sleazy but not like Marv Albert....:)

I am not absolute sure whether I got from BBBJ but I assume very much. Because I only fucked two girls without condom in two weeks but at least BBBJ from 10 girls. I am sure you can get gonorrhoea only by BBBJ! I also have to do now AIDS-test! In this forum some mongers reported Santos street is very dangerous! ? May be! I informed some of the ladys I had sex in Angeles and asked them to go to doctor. Nearly all refused because they have no money and "medicine is very expensive". I should send them money for doctor! Pay attention!

Spitz

[QUOTE=Elmerfud]Are you sure that you had gonohrrea from a BBBJ, would be interessing to know as I always had think that you could not get gonohrrea or syphillis from receiving oral sex.[/QUOTE]You most assuredly can.
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