Rio de Janeiro Reports

Just re-read the rules. Will send this to Jackson... (post edited)

Travelfox

[QUOTE=Admin][blue]Greetings Everyone,

Jamaicanceo has suggested that I place the Brazil Forum on full moderation.

This would result in every report being held for moderation before being visible in the forum.

Tell me what you think.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]
Of course, it shouldn't have to come to this. I'm sure Jackson has better things to do with his time than moderate threads on the ISG. But I had to go back to page six to find a properly written trip report, with names, descriptions, etc. Six pages of chit chat, travel plans, reminiscing about Help, racial BS, etc. Maybe moderation is needed. If anyone has followed the Colombia threads, it's certainly helped there.

IMHO, the Rio de Janeiro reports section used to be one of the best on the ISG; thorough, detailed reports, great photos, etc. I'm not sure why it's gone downhill in the last few years.

They didn't insist on everything up front, but they did ask that I pay for my 40 minutes before the trip to a room. Some girls were very good looking over there, and definitely most of them much more fluent in English. Not to say that this is worth the price difference.


[QUOTE=Ee2002]The prices on that guide went up like 2 years ago to the price that you posted. I haven't been to that place in maybe 4 years or so. I'm not sure if there is or ever was a gringo price, but they definitely would charge gringos everything up front with no refund whether you get a girl or not. Some people used to get by just paying the entrada upfront if you were a regular, other than that they would not budge. I don't know if they have relaxed the rules since 2005, but I'm not willing to risk $420R to find out. Plus at the time their girls were not any better than the other termas imho.[/QUOTE]

I intend the following report for working class mongers (like myself) who have never traveled to (let alone mongered in) Rio.

(That said, instead of reading this report, such readers could do just as well by printing-out Sperto’s Central Termas review and booking an apartment with Amerioca Tours ([url]http://www.amerioca.net[/url]).

Then, when you get to Rio, Ken (and presumably Don) will point you in the right direction, providing you’re not too cheap and twisted. They are knowledgeable, trustworthy folks with competitive prices.)

[b]Biases[/b]: To give you some idea of what sort of foreign object Brasilians see when they look at me, consider that I am a middle age, pasty white, medium height, so-so looking gringo, probably a seven, although a gay British guy once said I was a two.

I make no effort to be mistaken for a local, or, in the case of Rio, a “caricoa.” Quite the contrary, I affirm my identity as a tourist by, among other things, wearing a panama straw hat, the Monte Crisi Folder, in fact,

[url]http://www.lockhatters.co.uk/Monte_Cristi_Panama_Hats-Monte_Cristi_Folder-P109.aspx[/url]

To be sure, no one in Brasil would mistake me for anything but a gringo tourist, if that’s not redundant.

[url]http://bad.eserver.org/issues/2002/60/blanchette.html[/url]

And no one else should wear that hat!

[b]BrazilCupid.[/b] I had read that the Brazilian women on this site were on the “program,” a euphemism for actively trading sex for money. So, a few months before going to Rio, I eagerly posted a photo and a modest profile saying I was traveling to Rio and would like to meet-up for coffee, etc. Of the 70 members I sent messages to, only two hot ones (i.e. members with hot fotos) replied. Don’t bother.

[b]Rio airport (GIG).[/b] Piece of cake. Walk out the door, turn right, look for RealAuto Bus. Fuck the taxis, although there might be something to be said for having Amerioca pick you up. (There is certainly something to be said for having Ken take you to L’oumas six hours before your flight and then put you in their taxi while your mind is still in that post-sex, heavenly daze.)

[b]CasaMangoMango.[/b] (Brazilian literai room, specifically, which is in the basement and next to an independent entrance.)

[url]http://www.casa-mangomango.com/rooms.htm[/url]

I cannot praise this place enough. The service is excellent, even though the rooms are moderately priced. The owner is especially knowledgeable about the music scene, and most of her staff take genuine pleasure in serving people. The staff even includes a couple of sizzling hot chamber maids, albeit off limits.

It is not a “girl friendly” place, though, i.e. no one there will telephone an escort for you. But in paying for the room, you pay for a two-person occupancy. So they did not charge me a fee when a special friend visited me for two hours one Saturday night.

I should think it would be a great place to stay during Carnival because it is away from the maddening crowd and yet the staff will surely give you the low-down on where (and where not to go) when you’re ready to party.

[b]Mel @ Flavia Massagista.[/b] AV Rio Branco, 181, sala 1006. Segunda a Sexta: T (21) 2215-3606; 10:00 to 19:30; 1 Massagista: R70 (30 minutes), R110 (1 hour); 2 Massagistas: R105 (30 Minutes), R150 (1 hour)

(Friday, about 1pm)

When our esteemed colleague sperto uses the wonderful expression, “gems can be found!” he may be talking about Mel.

A dark morena with shiny fine but dense black hair, and big dark nipples, she was not particularly enthusiastic when she greeted me. But I didn’t care. I wanted a pretty face with black hair, and she fit the bill.

She has a fairly tight and, as predicted, extremely pretty pussy, visible inner lips and a bulging clitoral hood snuggled together by her dark, puffy outer lips.

And in terms of performance, she does a better than the average TJ blowjob.

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[QUOTE=Sui Generis]Nossa! The Rio thread is hot...

Am I missing something?

I was just about to ask a question about cockroaches in Rio, I think I'll come back later...

Remember to turn lights off when you are the last one to leave the room. LOL[/QUOTE]

To be fair, that [i]was[/i] in the apartments thread. But I get your drift. The discussion about what to do had gone on for a seeming eternity. I'm starting to think full moderation would be a good thing. At least it would cut out the cr*p and mean a forum where there was a chance of finding useful info.

Mongers,

I arrived in Rio yesterday about 10am and I am staying in one of Gringo Management's apartments for the 5th or 6th time over the past two years or so. The apartment I am in this time is perfect and as always I have had none of the issues that others complain about with this company. At about 7pm I went to Centaurus for the first time ever even though I have been to Rio many times before. I am not generally a terma or any on-site sex fan; however I have to say that Centaurus was extremely impressive and absolutely blows away L'uomo, which is the only other terma I have visited (I've been there twice). Yes, Centaurus is expensive (R$400 cash, R$440 credit card) but the selection of high end beautiful women is unmatched in Rio and maybe anywhere in the world I have been. There were probably about 50 women working and 40 of them were probably doable by my standards (which are sky high). I can't remember the name of the girl I banged but she is half Lebanese, is a law student, has braces and speaks about six languages, is very tall and has well done fake tits operated on by her uncle. This girl was a filthy animal in the room and insisted on doing things that I never ask for such as butthole licking, prostate massage, and cumming in her mouth/on her face after intercourse.

After a nap and some dinner, I went over to Help to find a victim for round two of the day. There were many doable girls but not a single stunner that had the face/body/ass combo to really put it all together. However, I did take home a petite girl with a giant fake rack who ended up living directly next door to the apartment I am renting. I went up to her apartment, she smoked a joint and got changed and then we went back to my place. Sex was average even though she let me bang her bareback probably because it was round two and I was not very motivated and just wanted to get it over with. She did give a decent BJ and a very nice, firm massage after the main event. I paid her R$ 300 which was for all night but I ended up kicking her out after 3 hours so I could sleep in peace.

More to come as it happens.

Suerte,

Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]The problem with the Rio forum is that it is basically unecessary...[/QUOTE]
I think the Rio forum is very necessary, not at least as most Brazil mongers only go to Rio.

The problem with the "Rio de Janeiro Reports"-thread is that it get filled up with a lots of reports that don't specifically has nothing to do with Rio (like my post :)) or posts that belongs in other sections (e.g questions about hotels, escorts).

If forum members would use the very useful search-function a lot of issues wouldn't have to be repeated over and over again.

[b]Camila & Danubia @ Monte Carlo.[/b] (Sunday, about 8pm)

This was the hottest dupla I had in Rio, and one of the hottest sex scenes in my life. Unfazed that I had cum inside her, Danubia continued to chow-down on Camila. Danubia was lapping so intensely, and Camila enjoying it so much, that, when I came, I left johnson in Danubia’s pussy so that I did not disturb the lovers. My only mistake was not returning to Monte Carlo the following Sunday.

Camila is a petite, pretty, muscular mullata, an eight, a camel-toe without a large clit. I don’t think she’s doing steroids. Danubia is a relatively tall, midnight black woman who would be a 9.5 if she had not gotten a boob job. And from some angles, it does not matter. For a white boy, she’s frightening hot. With her being more attractive than Camila, I was surprised (and that much more excited) to see Danubia methodically eat Camila’s pussy with so much loving passion. God I love watching authentically bisexual women eat pussy.

[b]Help Disco[/b] (Saturday night or early Sunday morning after Pietra).

Whatever Help once was, it is now filled with too many bimbo has-beens and low-class johns. Would you believe that a fight broke out over a prostitute? Imagine that: Two men were willing to risk their bodies over the claim they thought they had to a prostitute’s affections. Do the fucking math, morons!

And I was told by two different prostitutes that every night at least one fight among the prostitutes breaks out.

I say the place needs new management, or it should be shut down.

[b]Gabriela and Jaqueline[/b] (freelancers, R450 for 2hrs.)

These two little bombshells strolled by Rue Arimente Goncalves one day and said they were looking for business. They didn’t want to work in a terma, and the late night disco scene was probably more than they could handle.

They struck me as fiesty good girls, smart and great looking. In the vocabulary of porn, I’d cast them as college girls, too much woman for the teen genre but not a stretch mark anywhere, firm flesh. Gabriela, probably commercially more attractive, has a classic hour glass figure, big, firm natural boobs, a very thin waist, and a great ass, volume, as Lettermen would say. No self-respecting lecher would not turn his head.

But two hours is too much time for both of them, not until they get into eating each other with passion. Now, they just play around as if they don’t want to get their tongues wet. A safe bet is Gaby for one hour, if that goes well, buy-up a second.

Jacqueline is a gem and sucks cock very well. But she is inexperienced and very much a live wire, not yet a geisha. If you hit it off, she’d be great, a porn star experience.

But for now, I give them both a cautious recommendation.

[b]Areila. [/b] Avenida Presidente Vargas 590, Suite 1005. 2203-1565; 2263-8540. (Monday afternoon)

If you like sucking on big clits that are NOT seriod enhanced, Areila’s will do the trick. Actually, her dark pussy is sensational, very tight. She’s probably in her thirties and her thighs are admittedly getting too big. She also couldn’t recognize a word of I uttered. But I found her extremely appealing, nonetheless, and we had a vigorous fuck, as her thighs cushioned the adult-strength banging I gave her tight pussy.

The most erotic part, though, was watching her start the session by stroking the top of her clitoral shaft with her thumb to make it erect, a sweet image I'll carry forever, and a striking contrast to those providers who slap their pussies with lube and couldn’t care less if they're aroused.

At R80, she’s a reasonably good value. And she responds very well to people who make appointments. I arrived at the same time as a younger, better looking guy. But she was focused on finding out which one of us made the appointment. If those numbers don’t work, try [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

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got it. sorry. I didn't intend to give her personal number. I think I got those from her former webpage on destak.

[QUOTE=Pelongera][b]Camila & Danubia @ Monte Carlo.[/b] (Sunday, about 8pm)

This was the hottest dupla I had in Rio, and one of the hottest sex scenes in my life. Unfazed that I had cum inside her, Danubia continued to chow-down on Camila. Danubia was lapping so intensely, and Camila enjoying it so much, that, when I came, I left johnson in Danubia’s pussy so that I did not disturb the lovers. My only mistake was not returning to Monte Carlo the following Sunday.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your research paid off for you and you really had a great time. Congrats. Danubia is a really smoking hot sweetheart. She is always on my list of "to do's" in Rio - sometimes solo - sometimes in a dupla. She sure does love pussy and can deep throat with the best of them. Agree with your boob job assessment - she had cute little titties before. Has a great, great ass. She is a lot of fun and it just doesn't grow old with her.

[b] Shiela & Pricella, a dupla; later, Shayla, a fucking goddess.[/b]

Quatro por Quatro (4by4) Monday, about 4PM.

You know you look at too much porn when in 4by4 you recognize faces, even though you’ve never been to Brazil!

Shayla, spelled phonically, was featured in one of Mike in Brazil’s films. As you might imagine, I was star-struck.

(But I have no intention of searching MB’s site for her film. Ken of Amerioca showed me the page, and that was enough. Seeing the movie would be frustrating in a self-destructive way.)

Hers was an affecting pussy, an earthly delight. She has it all and then some, such as juicy outer lips, a wide, silky clitoral tip, very responsive, protruding and retreating markedly when she orgasms, and, in the crib itself, strong PC muscles, Kegels, whatever--the things that grip your cock.

I invited her up to my apartment, and she said okay. But she never showed. Ken reassured me that it is not atypical for terma girls to no-show. And I have to admit that hearing stunning Shayla tell me she would come over was a thrill in itself. In the future, I’ll mention money. Maybe that’ll motivate her (and/or them). At the time, I was so shocked when she said yes that I didn’t want to say anything else for fear of screwing it up.

An hour or so before I sessioned with Shayla, though, I did a dupla with Shiela & Pricella. I should not have taken Priscella. For me, she was not sufficiently unique. I took her up out of deference to her good friend Shiela, whom I did find very appealing. And sheila proved to be a great performer. Admittedly, her kagals were a little loose, but she is an active sex partner and a sexy woman.

When our (Amerioca) group arrived in the joint, females outnumbered males 2 to 1. By the time we left, about 8PM, the ratio was closer to 1 to 1, which was interesting. I was expecting that, since the brothel extends a discount if you take a provider before 5pm, the place would thin out by 8pm. Not so.

Personally, I didn’t notice any difference in the quality of the looks of the providers before and after the discount hour. They’re all fine looking women. Indeed, if you can’t find a women in 4by4 who appeals to you, it may be time for you to experiment with another anatomical form.

[b] Carol & Rafiela, Flavia Massagista.[/b] AV Rio Branco, 181, sala 1006. Segunda a Sexta; 10:00 to 19:30; 1 Massagista: R70 (30 minutes), R110 (1 hour); 2 Massagistas: R105 (30 Minutes), R150 (1 hour) (Tuesday, about 1PM)

The operative word in all that is “massagista,” not dupla. Don’t expect them to eat each others’ pussies, an omission that might have been okay, except that they also cut 10 minutes into my time with some half-ass back massage.

Actually, in fairness to Rafiela, I don’t think she would have put me through the silly massage if Carol wasn’t there. I’m guessing Carol was rookie, although she looked older. Her pussy was tighter, and she was too controlling. Maybe she’s in management.

Rafiela, though, was a great lay, a proud but accommodating lover, another gem to be found among the centro termas. Like Mel, she doesn’t come on strong in the interview. But she warms-up in the session. Tiny clit, though. I actually had trouble locating it and keeping it in my sights, so to speak.

At this stage, my tongue is a petry dish full of god knows what. But I have just 12 hours left in Brasil, and who the fuck cares! I’ve never seen so many consistently juicy pussies, impossible to resist. I hadn’t expected Brasilian pussy to be appetizing. I thought it was all about banging the bunda. In any event, I think I know where the SA cannibals started their feasts!

[b]Jamialya @ L'uomo[/b]: Rua Siqueira Campos, 143. Copacabana. [url]http://www.luomo.com.br[/url] (Tuesday, about 5PM)

Smokin hot women! There were at least two unequivocal tens in this place, i.e. above and beyond any provider I've seen in Tijuana, San Jose, Bangkok, Amsterdam, Barcelona, Madrid, Lisbon, and Havana. I kid you not.

Feeling a little insecure from Shayla’s stand-up, if not by the ten who was walking around the floor in a weird cross between a hostess and a snob, I settled for an 8.5, Jamialya (SP?), sexy legs, great tits, right on the border between tits and boobs, and one of those forward-tilting bubble butts--as if her entire torso was selected to scoop-up cock or smash its pussy in peoples' faces.

And as a provider, she’s an exception to the rule that the aggressive ones are let-downs in the room. Actually, I’m not sure if that rule applies to a tightly-run brothel like l’uomo.

Anyway, Jamailya was a sweet, convincing performer who kissed me in the boite even after we finished.

A lovely woman and a perfect ending to a great tour.

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Mongers-
After sleeping most of the day, I finally made it to Sushi Leblon around 2pm for some top-notch sushi in a top notch environment. The food was excellent as always and in addition to the usual rolls and sashimi I had some Scallop skewers that were excellent. After a nap I walked over to BodyTech on Avenida Copacabana. The last time I went to the Copacabana branch it was R$40 for a day pass. This time, they charged an absolutely ridiculous R$100 for a day pass. I went to over to Lapa for dinner and had a delicious Moqueca de Camarao at Mangue Seco, which is located across the street from the Rio Scenarium.

After dinner, my buddies and I headed over to Frank's to catch the 1am live sex show and see what was going on. Help was closed tonight for a private party. Frank's had a decent selection, two of my buddies pulled girls, and I will probably regret not pulling a beautiful bodied girl named Simone from Mato Grosso de Sul (who participated in the lesbian sex show) with a large tattoo around her waist. Frank's charges R$ 15 for a bacardi and coke, which is not too bad considering there is no cover and the shows they provide. I have a non-pro coming over in a few minutes but I think tomorrow I am going to have to slip into Frank's and bang this women with the tattoos.

Tomorrow I am probably going to take my first time visitor buddy up to Pao de Acucar and possibly go to Centaurus again in the late afternoon. More to come as it happens.

Suerte,
Rock Harders

PS- Funkignitator is obviously a nitwit for not even looking at my 100% reliable post history spanning six countries across the South American continent and ignoring the fact that Jackson is a close personal friend of mine in Buenos Aires.

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
After sleeping most of the day, I finally made it to Sushi Leblon around 2pm for some top-notch sushi in a top notch environment. The food was excellent as always and in addition to the usual rolls and sashimi I had some Scallop skewers that were excellent. After a nap I walked over to BodyTech on Avenida Copacabana. The last time I went to the Copacabana branch it was R$40 for a day pass. This time, they charged an absolutely ridiculous R$100 for a day pass.[QUOTE]

Body Tech intentionally discourages the casual tourist and day visits. Last time I checked the monthly rate was R$252. Still expensive, but a much better deal if you plan 3 or more visits.

[url]http://www.abodytech.com.br/unidades01.asp?nomeunidade=copacabana[/url]

I should add that there are much cheaper options throughout Copa and Ipanema.

Okay, so, I usually end up not writing trip reports because I spend waaay too much time trying to organize my thoughts; well, here goes my mixed up collage of a remembrance of the most excellent 9 days of my life!

Day 1: I arrive in Rio after a short 45 minute hop from Sao Paulo and the 7 1/2 hour flight from Miami. Amazingly enough, my dick got hard the instant the plane touched down; its something how your body knows whats going on! I had arranged a studio apartment through Rio Bay Housing ([url]www.riobayhousing.com[/url]). The property manager, Petra is a Belgian national who speaks perfect English and Portuguese and was very helpful in everything from going down on the security deposit (from $500 to $350). The suite I stayed in (on Copa) is called the Amazon Suite and I think I was the first person to stay there since it was acquired by the property manager. Anyway, the spot came with a local cell, a small-medium sized refrigerator, two burner stove and all the other stuff you'd expect in an apartment, including mood dimmers on all the lights in the place. It is located on Rua Paula Freitas, about 3 blocks over and 4 blocks down from the Siquiera Campos Metro Station, not a bad walk at all!

After getting unpacked, it was time to get to the mission: a$$! I took the walk to the Siqueira Campos Metro Station and purchased a Metro Ride card with 10 rides for like 30R. Destination number one: 4x4! I take the walk from Uruguaiana Station past the market to Buenos Aires (BA), left on BA, down the street, past the the dude with the two clean circles on the sidewalk (from the sidewalk cleaner he wants to sell), across Avenida Rio Branco and finally to Quatro por Quatro! After I get in, chave'd, showered and robed, who do I see first as I'm walking down to the boite? My fave from last trip. Anita. If you don't know who she is, she wears thigh-high black, patent-leather boots, has an Asian looking face with a great ass and a nice tight little waist and frame. I knew I was going to have to give her the obligatory first fuk, in order to enjoy the rest of my 4x4 visits drama free. I sat down and enjoyed about 3 caipirinhas before taking her back to a cabine after about an hour and a half. All the while, I'm getting my fill of the beautiful girls strutting back and forth in front of me. I mentally make a checklist of all the girls I want to do and try to schedule them for particular days in my head. After I plug Anita (sorry, no pics. Actually, I can post a pic I took of her last year), I go back down to the boite for a couple of hours when I see. One of the most beautiful woman I have EVER seen. She had a face like an angel and was appropriately named. Angelica! She spoke English perfectly and was very smiley, affectionate and sexy beyond belief. She had the biggest doe eyes and I was hooked. Just look at the pictures bro! So, of course, I smashed her, and, yes, it was good. A perfect end to the day. Or so I thought.

I left 4x4 after two very fulfilling sessions and headed for Help. Yes, I know the debates, I know the pros and cons, and, I don't give a shit. Pound for pound, this place has the highest volume of good looking pussy one can find in one place. Period. The price you get depends on your game and what you are willing to pay; two things I am very firm about. I go in at about 1am and the place is in full swing! I'm starved as hell, so I decide to go upstairs and order some food (chicken wings) and post up where I can look down on all the garotas downstairs. The first one that really caught my eye was a shorty with a body that was amazingly like that of the porn star Luana. You know, with the wide ass? She interested me, but, I saw that she had a line of guys trying to approach her and figured her asking price was probably a bit much at this point in the night. The next one to catch my eye was Alessandra. She was a short (understatement) morena, fake blond who was draggin' a mean waggon in the back. Now, in the days after I banged this broad, I talked to a few guys, and even some garotas who call her a midget. I didn't really think she was midget short, although she did seem to have really short arms when I pinned them back when I was smashing it. She definitely didn't have the little sausage fingers. Hell, I don't know, even if she was a midget, that was some fine midget ass and, yes, it was good. For 250R for all night, I'd highly recommend her to anyone. Word I got from some of the other bros is that she takes alot of guys for 5-600R, usually white or European guys. Sad! I found out later that Alessandra has done some work with Mike in Brazil. I'm a Mike in Brazil fan, but I don't remember her. I'll have to check again. I just know she gave me a helluva run in the sack and had a vicious head game. I'm telling you, catch her at the right time and price and, that a$$ is what's up!

A great end to Day 1! More later pervs.

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
After sleeping most of the day, I finally made it to Sushi Leblon around 2pm ..

After dinner, my buddies and I headed over to Frank's to catch the 1am live sex show and see what was going on. Help was closed tonight for a private party. Frank's had a decent selection...

PS- Funkignitator is obviously a nitwit ..[/QUOTE]

Rock, I initially glossed over your comments because I don't like Shshi. On second read you mentioned the private party at Help. Given the rumors of an August 28 closing, I can't help but wonder about the significance of this.

Thanks for your report, Rodeo. Both Angelica and Alessandra looked great. Nice bunda!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]I left 4x4 after two very fulfilling sessions and headed for Help. Yes, I know the debates, I know the pros and cons, and, I don't give a shit. Pound for pound, this place has the highest volume of good looking pussy one can find in one place. Period. The price you get depends on your game and what you are willing to pay; two things I am very firm about. I go in at about 1am and the place is in full swing! I'm starved as hell, so I decide to go upstairs and order some food (chicken wings) and post up where I can look down on all the garotas downstairs. The first one that really caught my eye was a shorty with a body that was amazingly like that of the porn star Luana. You know, with the wide ass? She interested me, but, I saw that she had a line of guys trying to approach her and figured her asking price was probably a bit much at this point in the night.[/QUOTE]It would have been interesting if you had sessioned with this Luana-lookalike, to see pictures of a great bunda like that. If it would have been me that spotted that girl, I for sure would have lined up with those other guys to try to get her to my apartment. In Rio there are many sexy girls with great bundas but those with extraordinarily sexy bundas, that makes men line up, are not that very common. Now I'm looking forward to the rest of your report! Hope you have some more nice bunda-pictures to show us. It would also be interesting to see those pictures of Anita from last year.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Rock, I initially glossed over your comments because I don't like Shshi. On second read you mentioned the private party at Help. Given the rumors of an August 28 closing, I can't help but wonder about the significance of this.[/QUOTE]Can anyone on the ground in Rio update on the Help Disco situation? Thanks

Mongers-
I can report from here in Rio that Help was fully open for business tonight, Saturday August 29th and was jammed packed. The talent level tonight was pretty good, but again there was a lack of complete stunners. There were many 5,6, and 7's but not really any 8+ garotas. On the way out, I spoke with one of the managers behind the coat check and asked him if the place is going to close. He told me that for "o momento" that the place will remain open; more than that, he would not elaborate. I am starting to believe that Help will not be closing in the immediate future and that if Rio is denied in its bid to host the 2016 Olympics that Help will not close at all. The bottom line here is CASH; Help is a fucking ATM machine and in a country such as Brasil cash rules at the end of the day.
Sorte,
Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-

I can report from here in Rio that Help was fully open for business tonight, Saturday August 29th and was jammed packed. The talent level tonight was pretty good, but again there was a lack of complete stunners. There were many 5, 6, and 7's but not really any 8+ garotas. On the way out, I spoke with one of the managers behind the coat check and asked him if the place is going to close. He told me that for "o momento" that the place will remain open; more than that, he would not elaborate. I am starting to believe that Help will not be closing in the immediate future and that if Rio is denied in its bid to host the 2016 Olympics that Help will not close at all. The bottom line here is CASH; Help is a fucking ATM machine and in a country such as Brasil cash rules at the end of the day.

Sorte,

Rock Harders[/QUOTE]Help is one of the reasons why the dollar is so weak. There are too many dollars on the street, and it's not good for dollar users when too much is in circulation amongst the general public. The government and Brazilian exporters make deals in dollars, so they are losing money. Therefore, with Help being a bigger tourist attraction than the Christ Redeemer, that is a major strike against Help than the GDP monger business.

Great report and pics as always rodeo,

Please more pics of alessandra that shorty is fire!!!!!!!!!!!1



[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Okay, so, I usually end up not writing trip reports because I spend waaay too much time trying to organize my thoughts; well, here goes my mixed up collage of a remembrance of the most excellent 9 days of my life!

Day 1: I arrive in Rio after a short 45 minute hop from Sao Paulo and the 7 1/2 hour flight from Miami. Amazingly enough, my dick got hard the instant the plane touched down; its something how your body knows whats going on! I had arranged a studio apartment through Rio Bay Housing ([url]www.riobayhousing.com[/url]). The property manager, Petra is a Belgian national who speaks perfect English and Portuguese and was very helpful in everything from going down on the security deposit (from $500 to $350). The suite I stayed in (on Copa) is called the Amazon Suite and I think I was the first person to stay there since it was acquired by the property manager. Anyway, the spot came with a local cell, a small-medium sized refrigerator, two burner stove and all the other stuff you'd expect in an apartment, including mood dimmers on all the lights in the place. It is located on Rua Paula Freitas, about 3 blocks over and 4 blocks down from the Siquiera Campos Metro Station, not a bad walk at all!

After getting unpacked, it was time to get to the mission: a$$! I took the walk to the Siqueira Campos Metro Station and purchased a Metro Ride card with 10 rides for like 30R. Destination number one: 4x4! I take the walk from Uruguaiana Station past the market to Buenos Aires (BA), left on BA, down the street, past the the dude with the two clean circles on the sidewalk (from the sidewalk cleaner he wants to sell), across Avenida Rio Branco and finally to Quatro por Quatro! After I get in, chave'd, showered and robed, who do I see first as I'm walking down to the boite? My fave from last trip. Anita. If you don't know who she is, she wears thigh-high black, patent-leather boots, has an Asian looking face with a great ass and a nice tight little waist and frame. I knew I was going to have to give her the obligatory first fuk, in order to enjoy the rest of my 4x4 visits drama free. I sat down and enjoyed about 3 caipirinhas before taking her back to a cabine after about an hour and a half. All the while, I'm getting my fill of the beautiful girls strutting back and forth in front of me. I mentally make a checklist of all the girls I want to do and try to schedule them for particular days in my head. After I plug Anita (sorry, no pics. Actually, I can post a pic I took of her last year), I go back down to the boite for a couple of hours when I see. One of the most beautiful woman I have EVER seen. She had a face like an angel and was appropriately named. Angelica! She spoke English perfectly and was very smiley, affectionate and sexy beyond belief. She had the biggest doe eyes and I was hooked. Just look at the pictures bro! So, of course, I smashed her, and, yes, it was good. A perfect end to the day. Or so I thought.

I left 4x4 after two very fulfilling sessions and headed for Help. Yes, I know the debates, I know the pros and cons, and, I don't give a shit. Pound for pound, this place has the highest volume of good looking pussy one can find in one place. Period. The price you get depends on your game and what you are willing to pay; two things I am very firm about. I go in at about 1am and the place is in full swing! I'm starved as hell, so I decide to go upstairs and order some food (chicken wings) and post up where I can look down on all the garotas downstairs. The first one that really caught my eye was a shorty with a body that was amazingly like that of the porn star Luana. You know, with the wide ass? She interested me, but, I saw that she had a line of guys trying to approach her and figured her asking price was probably a bit much at this point in the night. The next one to catch my eye was Alessandra. She was a short (understatement) morena, fake blond who was draggin' a mean waggon in the back. Now, in the days after I banged this broad, I talked to a few guys, and even some garotas who call her a midget. I didn't really think she was midget short, although she did seem to have really short arms when I pinned them back when I was smashing it. She definitely didn't have the little sausage fingers. Hell, I don't know, even if she was a midget, that was some fine midget ass and, yes, it was good. For 250R for all night, I'd highly recommend her to anyone. Word I got from some of the other bros is that she takes alot of guys for 5-600R, usually white or European guys. Sad! I found out later that Alessandra has done some work with Mike in Brazil. I'm a Mike in Brazil fan, but I don't remember her. I'll have to check again. I just know she gave me a helluva run in the sack and had a vicious head game. I'm telling you, catch her at the right time and price and, that a$$ is what's up!

A great end to Day 1! More later pervs.

Rodeo

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Wednesday: A'ight, so, after I kicked Alessandra's ass out this afternoon, I put on some fresh gear and trekked down to the metro, bound for Massagem Tijuca. This private massage place is located near the Maracana stadium. To get there from Copa, you take the Metro to the Estadio (or Estacio) station where you transfer to the other line, from here, you get off at the Maracana station. This is one stop past where you would get off for Vila Mimosa by the way!

When you get off, you exit via the bridge off to your right; when the bridge forks, take the 'straight ahead' tine of the fork and follow it down to ground level. Follow the street around the stadium--Rua Profesor Eurico Rabelo--(keeping the stadium on your left all the while). Once you get to a big cross street, you should cross first a curved street that has traffic headed toward you and follows the curve of the stadium, then, cross the main street--Avenida Maracana--perpendicular to where you were. One block past this main street is Avenida Paula Sousa--the street where Massagem Tijuca is on. Hang a left, go down maybe 6 or 8 blocks (looking for 214 as the street address) to a large metal gate.

Anyway, I had been here once under the righteous tutelage of Voyager1 on my first Rio trip. On that trip, I had made a connection with a girl who worked there named Raica. I was here to see if she was available again. And she was. You can check out the pics of the available girls (no faces shown) at their website: [url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com. Br/[/url]. I chose Raica for the 90R for one hour. She was as I remembered, now 30 y/o, great ass, great tits, and just a genuine, smiling sex machine! She'll remain a staple of my visits to Rio for years to come. I asked and she agreed to come to the apartment on Saturday. I told her to bring Michele, who also works there. I saw that chick in person and she is incredible! Part of me knew the Saturday thing wouldn't happen because of my busy schedule or the inherent unreliability of Cariocas. Raica gave a good session and I left with a smile on my face!

After taking the metro back to my place, I went shopping at the nearby Pao de Azucar supermarket. Picked up some eggs, bacon, OJ, Coca-cola, bread, butter, Paper towels and ice cream. I like to fix my own breakfast as I'm almost always disappointed by b'fast prepared by restaurants. The girls love it as well and think I'm doing it for them. Whatever, I'll take it! I'm not sure what I ate during this time, but, I found that the empanadas which are available at almost every corner (or more often) come in numerous varieties and are pretty damn good! So, I think I munched down a few of those in lieu of an actual dinner.

I decided to forego 4x4 tonight--not because I didn't want to go, but, in order to force myself to try someplace else. Since Monte Carlo ([url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com. Br/[/url]) was right around the corner (literally) from my place, I hit it up at about 8/9pm. I found the place kinda small, but, it had some real stunners on tap tonight. I don't think I saw one morena or black girl that night--all fair skinned girls. None of the big, oversized bundas that we normally find in 4x4, but still some asses that were right on the cusp and, in my opinion, would catch the eye of any self-respecting ass man. To this end, I present my conquest as Exhibit A, or, as she calls herself--Bia! Interestingly enough, I saw Bia even before I headed to the boite. She was speaking to one of the staff members in the open hallway just past the cashier and I just thought she was absolutely gorgeous. I passed her and she smelled like a bowl of fresh berries. As I was leaving the shower area, I saw her again, talking to the shower attendant. Call me naive, but I don't think she was targeting me, just happened to keep catching my eye. In my defense, she wasn't looking at me nearly as much as I was looking at her!

So, I go into the boite and was a little disappointed in the size and seating arrangement. It was very plain and, in my opinion would be very challenged to host the numbers of people you would find in 4x4 on a Friday. The women here were nice looking overall. Different, but, no better I would say, than the girls you'd find at 4x4. After a couple of caipirinhas, I opted for the one girl who, in my opinion, had it all--Bia! I don't remember what the total damage was, but, it was reasonable--I did 40min and it may have even come out to the same as an hour in 4x4 (210R) plus the entry fee. All in all, I probably stayed at Monte Carlo for about 3 hours. Bia, for all her being hot, was not the GFE that I have come to expect in Rio. For my part, I didn't really spend too much time trying to warm her up or get to know her or any of that shit. I did get her to agree to a few pics, but I think the fact that I was sweating like a turkey on Thanksgiving may have broken any mood that would have ensued. The puss was good and she definitely had a hot body; I'd have to give her the benefit of the doubt and recommend her. I might even try her again another time. Although, I probably would only go there with friends/other mongers, as the vibe in Monte Carlo just didn't gel with me.

After leaving MC, I went to, you guessed it, Help! I posted up on the top again, hoping to avoid being sized up, etc. I've found that if you actually sneak up on a girl and catch her off guard, it helps throw off her negotiation if she hasn't already seen you and sized you up. This tactic worked on Alessandra I think, as well as a couple of other Help girls. Anyway, I'm eating my Frango Passarinho (pieces of chicken) and caipirinha and watching the crowd when I spot this tall, but thick drink of water with a badunkadonk ass covered in a clingy sundress. Her name was Juliana (not the famous one); sorry, no pics! Interesting. From atop, she looked like a MILF, a bit older with a body that would turn boys to men. She kept eyeing me from below and tried to get me to come down to dance. I brushed her off a few times and then just decided to be nice and invite her up. She spoke English very well and was very outgoing. I could sense that she was good at netting customers. I had already kinda decided I liked her and would see what she was talking about. Her game was that she wanted to encourage me to come down and have fun and not stay up there looking square and mean/sad. I assured her that I was fine and just eating my food. I then sensed a little bossiness/attitude, so I sent her away and told her I'd find her later. By the way, once she came up, I was stunned to find out how much of a baby face she actually had. She was only 24 y/o! She had amazing eyes and a really cute smile. Although I was playing hard to get, I knew I was going to take her. After I headed downstairs, we played some headgames with each other and I had to put her in place a few times (I. E. Checking her about TELLING me to buy her a drink or TELLING me to FOLLOW her--I told her that I didn't want to buy her a drink right now, if she was nice, I might buy her some water or juice later; I also told her I don't follow women anywhere, if she wanted me to go somewhere with her, she had to say please--she looked puzzled by both of these demands at first, but complied and fell in line like all putas should). This shit was turning me on that she was doing everything I said. I asked her what she wanted to drink and she said in a puzzled voice, "Juice? " I smiled and said, "how about a Red Bull and Vodka, I'll give you my juice, later." I could visibly see her get turned on by this and knew it would be a good night. After I was confident that she was happy, I asked her about the price and told her, "if you say something stupid, something you tell the Europeans, I'm going to walk away and never look at you again." She said, very timidly: 350R? I told her that this was not a stupid price; 5 or 600R would have been stupid. I'm not going to pay 350R, but its not stupid. How about 200R? I said (I had already decided in my head on 250R). She countered with 300 of course and, we settled on 250R for all night. Check please! Man, I took that thing home and rode that ass like a horse all night! She had great head game--that's my shit by the way! My bed had wheels on it and that thing was on the other side of the room and perpendicular to the headboard by the time the night was over. I probably hit it like 4 times over the course of our time together. I'd recommend her, but, you need to take charge, or she WILL take advantage of you. As with all these girls, first lay down the law, then lay down the pipe! It's a game biches!

Rodeo. Out!

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[QUOTE=Brugal8]Great report and pics as always rodeo,

Please more pics of alessandra that shorty is fire!!!!!!!!!!!1[/QUOTE]I was just about to reply that I didn't have any more pics of her when I remembered a few cameraphone pics I snuck in Help. They're a little grainy, but, you get the point! Haha, "that shorty" is right! Enjoy.

Rodeo

Closing Help is a part of a major cleaning up in Rio. The cariocas will be more than happy when they close Help.

Worshippers of Help, open your eyes and realize that Rio's tourism industry isn't depending on gringo mongers spending their $ on GPs in Copa.

Mongers-
I agree with Sperto that Cariocas obtain absolutely no benefit from Help and that 99% of then would love to see Help get shut down in a wider effort to clean up Copacabana. However, the OWNER/S of Help are earning some serious cash in a country where serious cash gives one the ability to do just about anything they want. There are probably no Cariocas that ever go to Help other than GDP's; as everyone knows the clients are almost exclusively Brasilian and foreign mongers. The collective goal of bringing the Olympics to Rio and the vested interests behind the effort who stand to profit enormously from it have more cash to spread around than the owners of Help. However, if the Rio bid gets denied, I bet that Help stays.
Sorte,
Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]However, the OWNER/S of Help are earning some serious cash in a country where serious cash gives one the ability to do just about anything they want...[/QUOTE]
I have no idea if the owners of Help have a lot of cash.

What I heard is that the Spanish guys who got a long time lease on Help had a lot of problems. Some of them got expelled from Brazil and the rest havn't paid the rent for ages. It seems like there is a kind of law in Brazil that makes it difficult to kick somebody out who isn't paying his rent. However, their long time lease (25 years (?)) is supposed to finish very soon.

Break of some of these round blue plastic-circles which they covered the walls of Help and keep it as a souvenir. :D

[QUOTE=Sperto]Closing Help is a part of a major cleaning up in Rio.[/QUOTE]

What does the drive to clean up Rio say about the future prospects of the termas? If they shut those down, then one of my favorite vacation spots in the entire world will be ruined for me! Kinda like some guys feel about Help. Man I hope and pray that doesn't happen! I also selfishly hope that Rio loses its bid for the Olympic Games. I just don't see how a successful Rio bid would be good for us, the monger nation. The 3 other cities in the running are Chicago, Madrid, and Tokyo.

i do not think termas are in the direct line of fire in the efforts to "clean up" rio. they are not so much out in the open, and gdp's are not seen congregating in the street. as much as i enjoy helpee between terma runs, it really does attract riff-raff outside looking to take advantage of drunk tourists. if/when helpee ever closes, the gdp's will simply ply their wares at a few of the nearby cafes until a replacement reappears.

[quote=thick cane]what does the drive to clean up rio say about the future prospects of the termas?[/quote]

[QUOTE=Sperto]Break of some of these round blue plastic-circles which they covered the walls of Help and keep it as a souvenir. :D[/QUOTE]
LOL. Did that years ago brother!

If one could guess, how many millions do you estimate mongers pump into Brasil's economy each year? Maybe we could make it easier and just say Rio. We wont include the thousands that mongers send every month to their wives/novias and girlfriends. Lets just try to add up all the money spent on GDPS, hotels, taxis, food, etc.....

[QUOTE=Rock Harders]Mongers-
I agree with Sperto that Cariocas obtain absolutely no benefit from Help [/QUOTE]


Cariocas obtain no benefit from Help?! I dont think you are looking at the BIG picture. There are literally THOUSANDS of cariocas who benefit (monetarily wise) directly from the GDPs working at Help!

From the internet cafe owners in Copa, to the taxi drivers, to the people who sell gum, cigarretes, food and photos in front every night. To the hundreds of apartment owners who rent their places to both GDPs and mongers. To the beauty salon owners who do hair and nails everyday. To all the employees in the clothing, cell phone, electronics, purses and sunglasses stores! Lets not even mention the thousands of family members, baby sitters and drug dealers who receive money directly from the GDPS. I could literally go on and on writing about all the cariocas who owe a portion of their revenue to the money that mongers pump into Rio.

I was asking a friend of mine who has lived in Copa for quite some time what her and her neighbors think of Help Disco. It's a bit choppy, but this is a translation of what she said:

If there are girls it is because they have customers. If there were not people willing to pay there would not be any. It doesn’t make a difference to me because it does not change anything in my life. There will be a place for prostitution even if it is a common place like Baronet in Ipanema.

I like to respect the space of the others. It does not make me uncomfortable in the least bit that there are hookers on the beach, because I stopped feeling ashamed of their attitudes. Just like gays. They don’t respect themselves. They look hard in the face of any man, even if they are married. The same with Club Help; nobody pays it any attention.

The case of Help doesn’t matter. It is a political thing. Nobody talks about it because it is not important. Brizola (former governor of RJ) tried to close it before. But they are the guilty ones. Today the hookers are less scandalous but I still do not respect them and I feel bad when I see a woman abusing her body all day. I have clients who are hookers and they do not realize there is a time and place for everything. They are dressed like hookers 24 hours doing dirt and not respecting people with their low-level of Portuguese. If you work at the beach or in Help at night, walking around all day dressed like a hooker. The truth is that whatever they try to do around the beach, Copa will always have hookers. They are not going anywhere.

And the crime is not going to stop. It has nothing to do with the disco. It is because the money flows like water. I’m talking about the gringos, because they are the biggest victims of this type of violence. The violence will continue as it has been. I have never been robbed. Foreigners are robbed. But the reality of the moment is sending many people in the same space. Where they sent one before, they now send four. And once again gringos will still be fucking because they will be able to get a broad from anywhere. I have clients who are prostitutes and sometimes they tell me things. I feel sorry for anyone who picks up prostitutes but it is the end of times and it has to be like that, so be it.

Who benefits of Help?

The Help-owners, GPs, beggers, shoeshine-boys, vendors, taxidrivers, muggers and some corrupt police. For those people it's very convenient to have such a large number of gringos concentrated in one place. Most of them willing to overpay in one way or other.

For the locals living in Copa, Help is a big disgrace. Molesting street-kids sniffing glue, shitting and sleeping on the side/back streets. Muggers doing their thing and making the area unsafe. Regular girls are ashamed of passing by in front of Help as they risk that some overaged fat gringos in baseballcaps will flirt with them while waiving some green dollar-bills. Mongers might think Help is a paradise, but for the locals it's a very ugly scene.

Very few people will suffer if they close Help. The tourism (both the domestic and foreign) will continue just fine. Copa will always have plenty of GPs. If there are monger-tourists who stop visiting Brazil just because Help is closed, they propably are very few (maybe not that few among the posters in this thread). Visiting Rio (monger or not) isn't synonymous with visiting Help.

Rio getting the Olympic Games is good news for any monger in Rio at that time. Imagine the hords of GPs from all over Brazil that will head to Rio. :)

[QUOTE=Sperto]Rio getting the Olympic Games is good news for any monger in Rio at that time. Imagine the hords of GPs from all over Brazil that will head to Rio. :)[/QUOTE]I hope you are correct my friend.

Beijing gaining the Olympics in 2008 did nothing short of FUCK the whole P4P scene in Beijing - all thanks to the Chinese Govt who were not going to let the rest of the world see it's seedy underside - and it still suffers from it today.

Until March 2008 Billy could not get to Beijing quick enough - the main w.h.o.r.e bars in Maggies and Hollywood were IMHO just behind Help in terms a mongering experience - literally hundreds of Russian, Mongolian, Uzbek, Kazah, Chinese w.h.o.r.e.s all plying their trade - today they are ghost houses.

Now Billy avoids Beijing like the plague - as do many of my 'associates' who enjoyed this Asian paradise previously.

Hello mates,

I'm going to Rio for the first time in about 2.5 years. This may be a longshot but since I see people still talking about ingrid from luomo, figured it might be worth a shot to ask about three other hotties from luomo.

Sheyla.- tall blond, pretty face, nutty in the cabina. Hates to drink alcohol, hangs with ingrid, bi, likes it in the ass, etc. One of the best dancers there as well.

Lana.- tall, thin, pointy nose, pretty face. Says she is a nurse during the day, actually owns a car, seems responsible. This one is conservative for the most part except she does like it in the ass. Will do threesomes as well but is usually tame.

Luiza.- tall, thin, one of the most incredible asses ever. Not the pretties face, brunette, no tits, conservative as well.

Again, I haven't been there in a long time but I definitely had fun with all three so it doesn't hurt to ask right?

Also, where is the best place for 8's, 9's and 10's?

Will anyone be in brazil during set 5-15?

I'm friends with dave from balcony bar. And also chill at nildo's barraca in ipanema. Any of you hear of these places?

I'm a newbie, sorry for all the questions.

Thanks in advance,

Gg

[QUOTE=Sperto]Who benefits of Help?

The Help-owners, GPs, beggers, shoeshine-boys, vendors, taxidrivers, muggers and some corrupt police. For those people it's very convenient to have such a large number of gringos concentrated in one place. Most of them willing to overpay in one way or other.

For the locals living in Copa, Help is a big disgrace. Molesting street-kids sniffing glue, shitting and sleeping on the side/back streets. Muggers doing their thing and making the area unsafe. Regular girls are ashamed of passing by in front of Help as they risk that some overaged fat gringos in baseballcaps will flirt with them while waiving some green dollar-bills. Mongers might think Help is a paradise, but for the locals it's a very ugly scene.

Very few people will suffer if they close Help. The tourism (both the domestic and foreign) will continue just fine. Copa will always have plenty of GPs. If there are monger-tourists who stop visiting Brazil just because Help is closed, they propably are very few (maybe not that few among the posters in this thread). Visiting Rio (monger or not) isn't synonymous with visiting Help.

Rio getting the Olympic Games is good news for any monger in Rio at that time. Imagine the hords of GPs from all over Brazil that will head to Rio. :)[/QUOTE]Very well said Sperto, I go to help about 4 times per trip, usually once per week I am there. I leave with a girl about 1 once per month I am there. Usually go there and party, go home alone, or go straight to vips after with a few garotas. It is a good atmosphere to party in, but a rip off to pull garota from.

Billy, you are right, they tightened up even in Germany during the football world cup, even with liberal attitude of Germans on sex. Now South Africa is starting up a huge clean up operation, I think they are even introducing new laws !!? Now imagine the long term effect of that. They try to tackle it temporarily, but the effects are very permanent...

Of course the hurd of girls will come for that few weeks but then due to new laws and clampdowns it will be far worse afterwards....

(Although FKK -termas - in Germany were not affected as they were like private clubs and behind closed doors, but anything else got hit, I think places like VM, BA85 and the like might suffer, more raids on prive/biotes and so on. All speculation of course - I've never been to Rio.....!)

The fact of the matter is Brazil is coming into its' own as a country. And closing Help and cleaning up the area is an important step in this process. It is a highly visible statement as it front and center on the oceanfront.

GDP's and p4p will always be available - it will just be less visible. Agree with Sperto, any lost $ from any mongers that stop coming to Brazil because of Help's closing will be insignificant and easily replaced with other tourist $.

[QUOTE=Uzinuzin]Billy, you are right, they tightened up even in Germany during the football world cup, even with liberal attitude of Germans on sex. Now South Africa is starting up a huge clean up operation, I think they are even introducing new laws !!? Now imagine the long term effect of that. They try to tackle it temporarily, but the effects are very permanent...

Of course the hurd of girls will come for that few weeks but then due to new laws and clampdowns it will be far worse afterwards....

(Although FKK -termas - in Germany were not affected as they were like private clubs and behind closed doors, but anything else got hit, I think places like VM, BA85 and the like might suffer, more raids on prive/biotes and so on. All speculation of course - I've never been to Rio.....!)[/QUOTE]Interesting discussion on the possible impact of Rio (possibly) getting the Olympics in the distant future.

But I for one would prefer this particular thread restricted to substantive reports on pay for play action in Rio today, not tomorrow.

IMHO.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCoqZNesnM[/url]

A lot of venues near water. Watching the vid reminded me of how much water pollution there is in Rio. If they win the Bid, they'll have a lot of cleaning up to do. Especially Lagoa.

[QUOTE=Sperto]Who benefits of Help?

The Help-owners, GPs, beggers, shoeshine-boys, vendors, taxidrivers, muggers and some corrupt police. For those people it's very convenient to have such a large number of gringos concentrated in one place. Most of them willing to overpay in one way or other.

For the locals living in Copa, Help is a big disgrace. Molesting street-kids sniffing glue, shitting and sleeping on the side/back streets. Muggers doing their thing and making the area unsafe. Regular girls are ashamed of passing by in front of Help as they risk that some overaged fat gringos in baseballcaps will flirt with them while waiving some green dollar-bills. Mongers might think Help is a paradise, but for the locals it's a very ugly scene.

Very few people will suffer if they close Help. The tourism (both the domestic and foreign) will continue just fine. Copa will always have plenty of GPs. If there are monger-tourists who stop visiting Brazil just because Help is closed, they propably are very few (maybe not that few among the posters in this thread). Visiting Rio (monger or not) isn't synonymous with visiting Help.

Rio getting the Olympic Games is good news for any monger in Rio at that time. Imagine the hords of GPs from all over Brazil that will head to Rio. :)[/QUOTE]
OK. But I also wish to announce that many gringos hate Copacabana because we cannot sit down and have a decent meal without GDPS harrasing us!
This is the undiscussed aspect of all of this. Wherever we go in Copa we get harrased by GDPS. I was in the grocery store and had two separate GDPS ask if I wanted a massage; it was very embarrassing.

The Brazilian man in front of me actually got into another line.
Of course, I will bet the story when he got home was: Those gringos come here and solicit girls everywhere.

The truth:
I was buying groceries!

Yes, some gringos act irresponsibly but I agree more with what MR. E's friend below said. She sounds honest. The GDPS are the one's coming on to us 24/7, 365!

I was in Copacabana in the early 1990s and there was even more postitution (of a worse sort that I will NOT mention here). There were few gringos and virtually NO Americans, of course.

Gringos are not the problem at all. This is mostly the usual case of people blaming outsiders for their problems.
This talk about "cleaning" up Copa is interesting because they can only have this convesation now. In the past prostitution was much worse in Copacabana. They had to clean it up for it to look the way it does NOW.

In fact, since we seem to be linking everything that happens in Copa to gringos why not claim that the gringo presence raised the average age of prostitutes! Those who have been around Rio for a long time get this point!

TJ

Hi Bad Boy,

I know both scenes very very well.

Beijing never ever came close to the mongering scene in Rio.

Yes, there had been and are Uzbeks, Mongolians, Russians and also Chinese girls, but never to these numbers as in Rio. Maggies is by far not the size of Help and there is no TA in front of Maggies with all the girls standing around on the street.

Can you also imagine the Brazilian "efficiency" matches the Chinese one??? I can not.

Anyhow, I must agree that the Chinese P4P scene was utterly destroyed by the Olympics and has not been since as it was before. I have to travel to Beijing again in a few weeks time but I do not have great expectations.

Carlos Primeros

Sorry, I forgot these pics of fine ass Bia from Monte Carlo! Day 3 coming soon.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Wednesday: A'ight, so, after I kicked Alessandra's ass out this afternoon, I put on some fresh gear and trekked down to the metro, bound for Massagem Tijuca. This private massage place is located near the Maracana stadium. To get there from Copa, you take the Metro to the Estadio (or Estacio) station where you transfer to the other line, from here, you get off at the Maracana station. This is one stop past where you would get off for Vila Mimosa by the way!

When you get off, you exit via the bridge off to your right; when the bridge forks, take the 'straight ahead' tine of the fork and follow it down to ground level. Follow the street around the stadium--Rua Profesor Eurico Rabelo--(keeping the stadium on your left all the while). Once you get to a big cross street, you should cross first a curved street that has traffic headed toward you and follows the curve of the stadium, then, cross the main street--Avenida Maracana--perpendicular to where you were. One block past this main street is Avenida Paula Sousa--the street where Massagem Tijuca is on. Hang a left, go down maybe 6 or 8 blocks (looking for 214 as the street address) to a large metal gate.

Anyway, I had been here once under the righteous tutelage of Voyager1 on my first Rio trip. On that trip, I had made a connection with a girl who worked there named Raica. I was here to see if she was available again. And she was. You can check out the pics of the available girls (no faces shown) at their website: [url]http://www.massagemtijuca.com. Br/[/url]. I chose Raica for the 90R for one hour. She was as I remembered, now 30 y/o, great ass, great tits, and just a genuine, smiling sex machine! She'll remain a staple of my visits to Rio for years to come. I asked and she agreed to come to the apartment on Saturday. I told her to bring Michele, who also works there. I saw that chick in person and she is incredible! Part of me knew the Saturday thing wouldn't happen because of my busy schedule or the inherent unreliability of Cariocas. Raica gave a good session and I left with a smile on my face!

After taking the metro back to my place, I went shopping at the nearby Pao de Azucar supermarket. Picked up some eggs, bacon, OJ, Coca-cola, bread, butter, Paper towels and ice cream. I like to fix my own breakfast as I'm almost always disappointed by b'fast prepared by restaurants. The girls love it as well and think I'm doing it for them. Whatever, I'll take it! I'm not sure what I ate during this time, but, I found that the empanadas which are available at almost every corner (or more often) come in numerous varieties and are pretty damn good! So, I think I munched down a few of those in lieu of an actual dinner.

I decided to forego 4x4 tonight--not because I didn't want to go, but, in order to force myself to try someplace else. Since Monte Carlo ([url]http://www.termasmontecarlo.com. Br/[/url]) was right around the corner (literally) from my place, I hit it up at about 8/9pm. I found the place kinda small, but, it had some real stunners on tap tonight. I don't think I saw one morena or black girl that night--all fair skinned girls. None of the big, oversized bundas that we normally find in 4x4, but still some asses that were right on the cusp and, in my opinion, would catch the eye of any self-respecting ass man. To this end, I present my conquest as Exhibit A, or, as she calls herself--Bia! Interestingly enough, I saw Bia even before I headed to the boite. She was speaking to one of the staff members in the open hallway just past the cashier and I just thought she was absolutely gorgeous. I passed her and she smelled like a bowl of fresh berries. As I was leaving the shower area, I saw her again, talking to the shower attendant. Call me naive, but I don't think she was targeting me, just happened to keep catching my eye. In my defense, she wasn't looking at me nearly as much as I was looking at her!

So, I go into the boite and was a little disappointed in the size and seating arrangement. It was very plain and, in my opinion would be very challenged to host the numbers of people you would find in 4x4 on a Friday. The women here were nice looking overall. Different, but, no better I would say, than the girls you'd find at 4x4. After a couple of caipirinhas, I opted for the one girl who, in my opinion, had it all--Bia! I don't remember what the total damage was, but, it was reasonable--I did 40min and it may have even come out to the same as an hour in 4x4 (210R) plus the entry fee. All in all, I probably stayed at Monte Carlo for about 3 hours. Bia, for all her being hot, was not the GFE that I have come to expect in Rio. For my part, I didn't really spend too much time trying to warm her up or get to know her or any of that shit. I did get her to agree to a few pics, but I think the fact that I was sweating like a turkey on Thanksgiving may have broken any mood that would have ensued. The puss was good and she definitely had a hot body; I'd have to give her the benefit of the doubt and recommend her. I might even try her again another time. Although, I probably would only go there with friends/other mongers, as the vibe in Monte Carlo just didn't gel with me.

After leaving MC, I went to, you guessed it, Help! I posted up on the top again, hoping to avoid being sized up, etc. I've found that if you actually sneak up on a girl and catch her off guard, it helps throw off her negotiation if she hasn't already seen you and sized you up. This tactic worked on Alessandra I think, as well as a couple of other Help girls. Anyway, I'm eating my Frango Passarinho (pieces of chicken) and caipirinha and watching the crowd when I spot this tall, but thick drink of water with a badunkadonk ass covered in a clingy sundress. Her name was Juliana (not the famous one); sorry, no pics! Interesting. From atop, she looked like a MILF, a bit older with a body that would turn boys to men. She kept eyeing me from below and tried to get me to come down to dance. I brushed her off a few times and then just decided to be nice and invite her up. She spoke English very well and was very outgoing. I could sense that she was good at netting customers. I had already kinda decided I liked her and would see what she was talking about. Her game was that she wanted to encourage me to come down and have fun and not stay up there looking square and mean/sad. I assured her that I was fine and just eating my food. I then sensed a little bossiness/attitude, so I sent her away and told her I'd find her later. By the way, once she came up, I was stunned to find out how much of a baby face she actually had. She was only 24 y/o! She had amazing eyes and a really cute smile. Although I was playing hard to get, I knew I was going to take her. After I headed downstairs, we played some headgames with each other and I had to put her in place a few times (I. E. Checking her about TELLING me to buy her a drink or TELLING me to FOLLOW her--I told her that I didn't want to buy her a drink right now, if she was nice, I might buy her some water or juice later; I also told her I don't follow women anywhere, if she wanted me to go somewhere with her, she had to say please--she looked puzzled by both of these demands at first, but complied and fell in line like all putas should). This shit was turning me on that she was doing everything I said. I asked her what she wanted to drink and she said in a puzzled voice, "Juice? " I smiled and said, "how about a Red Bull and Vodka, I'll give you my juice, later." I could visibly see her get turned on by this and knew it would be a good night. After I was confident that she was happy, I asked her about the price and told her, "if you say something stupid, something you tell the Europeans, I'm going to walk away and never look at you again." She said, very timidly: 350R? I told her that this was not a stupid price; 5 or 600R would have been stupid. I'm not going to pay 350R, but its not stupid. How about 200R? I said (I had already decided in my head on 250R). She countered with 300 of course and, we settled on 250R for all night. Check please! Man, I took that thing home and rode that ass like a horse all night! She had great head game--that's my shit by the way! My bed had wheels on it and that thing was on the other side of the room and perpendicular to the headboard by the time the night was over. I probably hit it like 4 times over the course of our time together. I'd recommend her, but, you need to take charge, or she WILL take advantage of you. As with all these girls, first lay down the law, then lay down the pipe! It's a game biches!

Rodeo. Out!

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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Sorry, I forgot these pics of fine ass Bia from Monte Carlo! Day 3 coming soon.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Bia looks absolutely great! That's the kind of bunda we love to find in Rio. Thanks for posting those pictures! When I saw the last pictures of Alessandra, from the inside of Help, I recognized her. I have seen her many times at Help, she seems to be there most of the times. She has an interesting body.

Please take the post in the spirit it was meant. I was not suggesting Beijing did approach Rio in terms of P4P action - I was merely pointing out that Governments when they have an agenda can do whatever they want whenever they want.

Overnight bars / clubs / w.h.o.r.e hangouts can be decimated at the whim of the government of the day.

On march 12 2008 the Chinese government decreed that Maggies would no longer be the western guys 'supermarket' for w.h.o.r.e.s in Beijing.

LE raided Maggies - rounded up 50 mongolian girls and deported them - all BLACK stamped which means they cannot get back into China for 5 years.

The owners / managers of Maggies were thrown in the slammer for 'fire prevention violations' where they spent 12 months.

YES what happened in Beijing may well be totally irrelevent to Rio which is on the other side of the world - but it is what happens when Governments want to 'chest beat' on the world stage.

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Maggies is by far not the size of Help and there is no TA in front of Maggies with all the girls standing around on the street.[/QUOTE]I agree Help is considerably bigger than Maggies at it's peak - add Hollywood when it was at it's peak which is just around the corner from Maggies and the numbers change again.

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]Anyhow, I must agree that the Chinese P4P scene was utterly destroyed by the Olympics and has not been since as it was before. I have to travel to Beijing again in a few weeks time but I do not have great expectations.[/QUOTE]If you have expectations of finding Maggies or Hollywood as they were in their hey days then you will be disappointed. I have been in Beijing 5 times so far this year - there is still plenty w.h.o.r.e.s of around.

There is a new 'headquarters' - Chocolate - again right beside Ritan Park - 100mtrs from front door of Hollywood - go there after midnight - wall to wall Mongols, Russians, Uzbeks etc.

I also have a list of 20 or so Mongolian girls ALL looking for work as they are too scared to go out at night to the bars - and if you like I will put you in touch with my mate Sammy T who has the phone numbers of half the w.h.o.r.e.s working in BJ.

One further point about Governments taking action against P4P outlets where major international events are concerned - Shanghai is now on 'meltdown curve' due to World Expo coming there next year.

OK I know you guys are getting bored with this - you will just never know how much it hurts until your 'playground' is taken away from you - I just hope Rio / Brazil does not suffer the same fate.

No more on Beijing from Billy - here are some Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s for you guys.

Thursday: Okay, so today was gonna be my day to do some different things. I decided to call up an escort agency (Karla's Models: [url]http://www.karlamodels.com.br/[/url]). I had to call the last two numbers on the website, as the first two did not work since my landline only worked for calls to numbers in Rio (so, I assume those other numbers were from out of town). There was lots of talk as to needing to speak Porto in order to utilize the services of one of these agencies; well, here's how my conversation went, after FIRST viewing the ladies on the website and deciding who I wanted:

Me: Halo, fala ingles?
Karla's: Nao, um pouco.
Me: Eu quero Jamile Cortat en minha apartamento.
Karla's: Direcco? (I guessed that was the time to give my address)
Me: Gave my address.
Karla's: Ta bom. Numero de telefono na casa? (home phone number)
Me: Gave the number.
Karla's: Trinte minutos, ta bom?
Me: Ta bom, obrigado!

20 minutes later, I had the smoking hot blonde pictured below gagging on my rod. Bottom line: know what you want before you call, know what info you are supposed to give, don't ask any fucking questions--no, I don't claim to know Porto by far. If it had gotten one iota more complex, I don't think I would have been successful, but.

When Jamile showed up a good 2 hours after I kicked out the last girl, I knew that all was to be right in the world. She came in wearing a white tank top, jeans, and pumps--a typical model's basics! I offered her something to drink and showed her around the apartment to help her feel more at ease (I've found this is a good tactic so girls don't worry about hidden cameras or dudes jumping out of closets or any such shit. Of course, if that's what you're planning, better not show her around). Now, to be fair, Jamile was not as attractive in the face department as I would have liked to go along with the body, which I guess is where the book comes into play. But, she wasn't ugly and had a smokin' little frame with big tits and a nice, plump ass. And I was in the mood for a blonde, so, she fit the bill. I had her start off with a BJ, which I believe was probably the best I had ever had (in life) up until that point! Really great technique done with some nice, plumped up lips. Having both showered, I decided I'd treat her to dinner at the Y. She was very sensitive and gyrated wildly and got super wet! She then started begging me to fuck her, but I tortured her and made her wait (which I love to do)! She didn't do anal, but, everything else was on point. Great visuals of her big ass titties plopping up and down while she rode cowgirl and her juicy ass oiled up while I hit it doggy style are forever etched in my head. I got some good pics of her ass. On a platter. As I call it when it is perched up on a barstool as the pics show. I bought a few cheapie America's Next Top Model Tee shirts from Wal-Mart for like $5 each, and she was definitely a candidate for one! She was a great lay and, for only 120R for 2 hours, it couldn't be beat! She was really into the pics and let me take alot, as well as video. I planned to call Karla's again, but never got around to it with my busy schedule. I highly recommend both Jamile and Karla's to anyone looking for a hot time without leaving your home away from home!

Next, I met up with this smooth old school player named, well, let's call him A158! Dude had just arrived in Rio and was leaving in two days. We arranged to meet in front of 4x4 and find a bite to eat somewhere nearby. Ended up going to a shitty "por kilo" place on Buenos Aires, near the Uruguaiana Metro Station. Ehh, we didn't get sick, so I guess it wasn't too bad. Next, we decided to hit up the Centro Massage spots. All of them! Well, as many as we could before the pressure to go to 4x4 was too intense! We started out in Rio Branco 156 and hit 3320, 2622, and 2114. Of these three, 3320 had the best selection, though nothing caught our eye. The mamasan said that they had 30 girls working, but, all but 8 were occupied. We decided to return later to see the full selection. We also hit 1703 and 2537, but they were both either closed for the day or out of business. Next, we hit Rio Branco 185's 1829 and 2114 (Bel Prazer). I recognized the later as being a place I visited during my last trip. They began parading out the girls and I started telling A158 about the girls I had there last time; wouldn't you know, as I was about halfway through my story, they walk out to present themselves! I had to work to not pick Raquel again because she really rocked my world last time. I recommended her to A158 and he took my advice; I think he would agree with my assessment. I decided to go with a short cutie with a nice, phat ass named Suany. She was not very interactive, perhaps due to the warmth of the room and my resulting sweating, but, I enjoyed watching her ass move in the mirror. She really didn't show any affection at all, but, even still, I would see her again because the combination of her cuteness and her phat ass! Sorry, no pics of this one!

Next, we went off to 4x4. Tonight, I would pick a girl with one of the most perfect bodies God, errrr, man ever created. Gentlemen, I give you Mayara (pronounced Mai-ee-da). She is about 5'7" tall, morena skin, Carioca, a smile that just begs you to get to know her and thighs and buns of steel! She is one of the hard bodies of 4x4. Now, it would usually take a long time for me to decide to take a girl like this because of thoughts of the masculinity. But, with her, she just exuded femininity, despite her strong disposition. She was one of those girls who I could not keep my eyes off of all night. I just had to have her. So I did! This was the best sex I have ever had. Everything started out normal. Some kissing, caressing, oral, penetration; then, out came the baby oil! By the time I oiled up her ass and thighs and it oozed down onto my thighs, the cowgirl was just ridiculous. She was riding like a champ and I was pounding like a jackhammer. I started talking shit and she did too. I even slapped her in the face a bit, which she seemed to like. I think she liked the fact of a guy taking control since she is obviously so strong. The shit definitely turned me on. Anyway, here's the pics!

You would think I was done for the night, right? You would be wrong. See, as I explained to the guys I hung out with in Rio, I have this thing where I don't like to sleep alone at night. So, when I'm feeling lonely at night, I need to get a little Help!

Truth be told though fellas, this may be the one night that I don't remember what garota I took for the night! Oh well, there's always Friday, Day 4!

Rodeo

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Doesn't really matter much if Help closes as long as something similar become available. I mean there should be a 'take-out' alternative to the fuck-on-the spot options like Termas and VM.
For all I care, they could name the new place "Pleh" and put it on the otherside of NS copacabana.

[QUOTE=Bizzie]Doesn't really matter much if Help closes as long as something similar become available. I mean there should be a 'take-out' alternative to the fuck-on-the spot options like Termas and VM.
For all I care, they could name the new place "Pleh" and put it on the otherside of NS copacabana.[/QUOTE]


Help means nothing to me. The fact of the matter is, an average monthly salary is R400. GDPs who clear that in a night or two like the money. These hot chicks are not going to work in Bob's for R400 per month.

So close Help for all I care. These girls will just find another place to gather, to sell themselves. Gringos will follow wherever they go, trust me..no issue here.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]

No more on Beijing from Billy - here are some Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s for you guys.[/QUOTE]Pic 2093 with the 4 girls is an awesome sight. The stuff of dreams.

I concur with your gov't comments. Same thing has happened in Tokyo with the Kabukicho district. Olympics.

Personally I think it's lame when a city 'cleans up' for the Olympic bid. It's like a disrepect to the local culture and the day-to-day way that local people want their city to be run, like saying that 'we were wrong to have this, yeah we are backward'. Although I think the excellent P4P is the best reason to visit these two cities. I say, fuck the Olympics. The rest can float off into the ocean, burn in hell, or whatever and have their games there, but leave my Rio GDP's and Japanese dominatrices alone.

Now we don't even have to talk about Chicago, the town hit menopause 30 years ago. They have no P4P there.

Friday: Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little!

2- They expect you to counter their overpriced offers. If you just say no, without countering, they won't lower the price; you have to go the extra step to actually tell them what you think they are worth. HINT: always lowball, because they will only go down a bit initially from their original price, then they expect you to go up a bit from yours and then, you meet somewhere in the middle. If you're smart, you can actually use this negotiating time to get other extras (photos, anal, other freaky shit) thrown in.

3- The GDPs from HELP work there almost, if not every night. Money is constantly at the forefront of their mind. However, the HELP GDP, just like all women want to get away and feel and be treated like a lady whenever possible. If you can offer them something of value, besides money (its a hard sell, but your game has to be tight); I. E. A cool, comfortable bed with nice music, good food and good sex, as well as respect, she will be putty in your hand. 4- As if it hasn't been hammered home already on this forum, the earlier you go to HELP, the higher the prices are likely to stick. Anytime after 1:30am was good for me. The more standoffish you are, chances are, the more likely you are to find the GDP for you. You can watch for the ones who are watching everyone, then watch the ones that are only watching you. I even like to try to sneak up on the ones who haven't even noticed me yet--throws off their negotiations.

5- These bitches TALK! Yo, by the end of my trip, I had HELP girls telling me who I took from HELP, what we did together, how my apartment looked; it was actually kind of scary. Of course, WE talk as well! So, I knew alot about some of the bitches beforehand, allowing me to make informed decisions.

6- Don't go to HELP with the baby milk on the brain! Meaning, don't go to HELP with a NEED to fuck some *****. Get one earlier in the night (from Meia Pataca or Balcony or wherever), then you can just go to HELP and chill; if something happens, then it happens, if not, you're not desperate and don't make dumb decisions!

7- Learn how to give these garotas. Da DICK! Its amazing how low the prices will go once word gets around that you're either giving girls multiple orgasms and fucking their back out or makin' them drip with a hurricane tongue! Think about it, if some dude told you a ***** gave him a 1 hour BJ, swallowed, kept going after you came, was drooling all over the whole time without using her hands, wouldn't you be looking for her ass the next night? I know I would!

8- Watch what dudes you hang with. For better or worse, the GDPs will associate you with whomever you are talking to. If you're talking with a bunch of losers, cheapskates, or otherwise assholes, you will be labeled as such. On the other hand, if you are around a bunch of cool ass dudes, like I always seem to run into, you'll be surprised how the ass magnetizes to you. Serious. Yeah, its all about the mighty Real, but, girls like game too, no matter where they are.

9- Never let a GDP know how beautiful she is. Treat her initially like she is just another fish in the sea, no matter how much you like her. Your indifference, if she is remotely interested in you, will drive her crazy and cause her to try harder to stand out and make you happy.

Okay, back to the report:

So, I had to meet up with A158 and we were supposed to hit up some more Centro Massage spots prior to hitting 4x4 again. We ended up not hitting any massage places, stopping for some food and hooking up with two other debonnaire players from ISG: Sami and BigBlkBootyLuvr. We gave them the lowdown on what we had done so far, then were off to 4x4, where, yes, I smashed some major ass. Now look, I can't remember this *****'s name, only that she had a ridiculous ass and some small, gray eyes! Doesn't matter, I got pics! I gave some recommendations to Sami, BlackBooty Lover and A158 and they all took my advice. Once again! After all that shit was over, we headed out to Help!

We couldn't have been in Help for 45 minutes when I spotted. Her! Her is Juliana, the porn star.coming out of the bathroom and unattached! I pointed her out to Sami and was like, "dude, did you see that. You think I should? " Before I could finish the thought, I grabbed her by the arm and said, "hey, how much? " She was as thrown off and shocked as I was, but gave the warmest smile and said "Wow! How about 300R? " Although I was willing to pay 300 easy for those tits alone, I had to put up a fight. I went down to 200 and we met comfortably at 250R. And, dude, all the prices I've quoted you for HELP have been all-night prices (meaning from the time we leave until like 1pm). If you are paying all night prices and kicking the girl out after 2 hours, you are getting robbed! Now, I have to let you know, it wasn't until a few days later that anyone told me she was a porn star (yes, I missed the whole long thread on Juliana including the video links and all). But, I had no doubt after we got to my apartment that she had porn star virtues. Seriously, I think this girl is a nymphomaniac, for real. She WOULD NOT STOP! We fucked on and off from about 3am to 7:30am. I remember telling her I was going to take a break and get us some chocolate ice cream from the fridge. I came back with the ice cream and started eating it. She said "I don't want no fucking ice cream, I want the chocolate bar" and started sucking my dick like her life depended on it while I was eating ice cream. I was in heaven. Later that morning after a few hours of sleep, after I had made us breakfast (which she didn't eat), while I was eating breakfast, she starts going to town on my dick again! Man, I love this girl. I thought seriously about just keeping her the rest of my time there. Once again, I had just had the best sex of my life! I think she REALLY dug me because she left 3 email addresses, 2 cell phone numbers and the number to her mom's house in Bahia. She will always be on my must see list when I go to Rio. She's the truth--Juliana--bet! By the way, her body is fucking tight! She may have a little bit of a belly, but in no way would I call her fat. Definitely not enough to be a disqualifier. Do not pass her up, I'm tellin you!

That was my day bitches! Hope you like the pics.

Rode-fuckin-o

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Got a call rite before I boarded the plane from a fellow mongerer.

I hope I was able to help mate.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]OK, no more on Beijing from Billy - here are some Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s for you guys.[/QUOTE]Hey Billy, I love your selection, MAN! Thanks for sharing.

RR

[QUOTE=RonnyRon]Hey Billy, I love your selection, MAN! Thanks for sharing.
[/QUOTE]A very wise man told me many years ago - "No point in fucking a w.h.o.r.e unless you have the pictures to show your mates".

Thank you for your posting and the excellent pictures - you have a good taste.
I will follow your recommendation and will go to Chocolate - this one is new to me.

Carlos

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Personally I think it's lame when a city 'cleans up' for the Olympic bid. It's like a disrepect to the local culture and the day-to-day way that local people want their city to be run, like saying that 'we were wrong to have this, yeah we are backward'...[/QUOTE]
I also want my hunting grounds untouched, that is Centro and VM. Cleaning up termas and casas de massagem is mostly political theater. Soon things go back to normal.

What is more important for the cariocas is the cleaning up the police are doing in the favelas. First BOPE scares away the bandits and then the PM establish a minibatalhão in the favela, like they have recently done in Morro da Babilônia in Leme.

Rodeo again great images bro

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Sorry, I forgot these pics of fine ass Bia from Monte Carlo! Day 3 coming soon.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

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Rodeo you have put together some of the best reports and pics of 2009.

Mayara is fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Thursday: Okay, so today was gonna be my day to do some different things. I decided to call up an escort agency (Karla's Models: [url]http://www.karlamodels.com.br/[/url]). I had to call the last two numbers on the website, as the first two did not work since my landline only worked for calls to numbers in Rio (so, I assume those other numbers were from out of town). There was lots of talk as to needing to speak Porto in order to utilize the services of one of these agencies; well, here's how my conversation went, after FIRST viewing the ladies on the website and deciding who I wanted:

Me: Halo, fala ingles?
Karla's: Nao, um pouco.
Me: Eu quero Jamile Cortat en minha apartamento.
Karla's: Direcco? (I guessed that was the time to give my address)
Me: Gave my address.
Karla's: Ta bom. Numero de telefono na casa? (home phone number)
Me: Gave the number.
Karla's: Trinte minutos, ta bom?
Me: Ta bom, obrigado!

20 minutes later, I had the smoking hot blonde pictured below gagging on my rod. Bottom line: know what you want before you call, know what info you are supposed to give, don't ask any fucking questions--no, I don't claim to know Porto by far. If it had gotten one iota more complex, I don't think I would have been successful, but.

When Jamile showed up a good 2 hours after I kicked out the last girl, I knew that all was to be right in the world. She came in wearing a white tank top, jeans, and pumps--a typical model's basics! I offered her something to drink and showed her around the apartment to help her feel more at ease (I've found this is a good tactic so girls don't worry about hidden cameras or dudes jumping out of closets or any such shit. Of course, if that's what you're planning, better not show her around). Now, to be fair, Jamile was not as attractive in the face department as I would have liked to go along with the body, which I guess is where the book comes into play. But, she wasn't ugly and had a smokin' little frame with big tits and a nice, plump ass. And I was in the mood for a blonde, so, she fit the bill. I had her start off with a BJ, which I believe was probably the best I had ever had (in life) up until that point! Really great technique done with some nice, plumped up lips. Having both showered, I decided I'd treat her to dinner at the Y. She was very sensitive and gyrated wildly and got super wet! She then started begging me to fuck her, but I tortured her and made her wait (which I love to do)! She didn't do anal, but, everything else was on point. Great visuals of her big ass titties plopping up and down while she rode cowgirl and her juicy ass oiled up while I hit it doggy style are forever etched in my head. I got some good pics of her ass. On a platter. As I call it when it is perched up on a barstool as the pics show. I bought a few cheapie America's Next Top Model Tee shirts from Wal-Mart for like $5 each, and she was definitely a candidate for one! She was a great lay and, for only 120R for 2 hours, it couldn't be beat! She was really into the pics and let me take alot, as well as video. I planned to call Karla's again, but never got around to it with my busy schedule. I highly recommend both Jamile and Karla's to anyone looking for a hot time without leaving your home away from home!

Next, I met up with this smooth old school player named, well, let's call him A158! Dude had just arrived in Rio and was leaving in two days. We arranged to meet in front of 4x4 and find a bite to eat somewhere nearby. Ended up going to a shitty "por kilo" place on Buenos Aires, near the Uruguaiana Metro Station. Ehh, we didn't get sick, so I guess it wasn't too bad. Next, we decided to hit up the Centro Massage spots. All of them! Well, as many as we could before the pressure to go to 4x4 was too intense! We started out in Rio Branco 156 and hit 3320, 2622, and 2114. Of these three, 3320 had the best selection, though nothing caught our eye. The mamasan said that they had 30 girls working, but, all but 8 were occupied. We decided to return later to see the full selection. We also hit 1703 and 2537, but they were both either closed for the day or out of business. Next, we hit Rio Branco 185's 1829 and 2114 (Bel Prazer). I recognized the later as being a place I visited during my last trip. They began parading out the girls and I started telling A158 about the girls I had there last time; wouldn't you know, as I was about halfway through my story, they walk out to present themselves! I had to work to not pick Raquel again because she really rocked my world last time. I recommended her to A158 and he took my advice; I think he would agree with my assessment. I decided to go with a short cutie with a nice, phat ass named Suany. She was not very interactive, perhaps due to the warmth of the room and my resulting sweating, but, I enjoyed watching her ass move in the mirror. She really didn't show any affection at all, but, even still, I would see her again because the combination of her cuteness and her phat ass! Sorry, no pics of this one!

Next, we went off to 4x4. Tonight, I would pick a girl with one of the most perfect bodies God, errrr, man ever created. Gentlemen, I give you Mayara (pronounced Mai-ee-da). She is about 5'7" tall, morena skin, Carioca, a smile that just begs you to get to know her and thighs and buns of steel! She is one of the hard bodies of 4x4. Now, it would usually take a long time for me to decide to take a girl like this because of thoughts of the masculinity. But, with her, she just exuded femininity, despite her strong disposition. She was one of those girls who I could not keep my eyes off of all night. I just had to have her. So I did! This was the best sex I have ever had. Everything started out normal. Some kissing, caressing, oral, penetration; then, out came the baby oil! By the time I oiled up her ass and thighs and it oozed down onto my thighs, the cowgirl was just ridiculous. She was riding like a champ and I was pounding like a jackhammer. I started talking shit and she did too. I even slapped her in the face a bit, which she seemed to like. I think she liked the fact of a guy taking control since she is obviously so strong. The shit definitely turned me on. Anyway, here's the pics!

You would think I was done for the night, right? You would be wrong. See, as I explained to the guys I hung out with in Rio, I have this thing where I don't like to sleep alone at night. So, when I'm feeling lonely at night, I need to get a little Help!

Truth be told though fellas, this may be the one night that I don't remember what garota I took for the night! Oh well, there's always Friday, Day 4!

Rodeo

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Rodeo,

First off. Thanks for taking the time to write such detailed and informative reports about your Rio adventures. And for sharing the great pics. Seems like your experiences support much of what has been written here about venues, the ladies, negotiating tactics, etc. I enjoyed reading them and will certainly take your recommendations under consideration when I visit these locations later this month and again in November. Much appreciated.

However, I do have a few comments to make on your most recent report:

Your claim that "many-a-garota" don't like white men as lovers and prefer black men and "they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners" is ridiculous. You stated you do not think they were saying this to you because you are black. You should know by now that GDP's will say whatever they have to to close a deal and make someone feel special. And it seems you bought into it. I can tell you that I have had a dozen different garotas (black, white, mulata) all complain that they do not like to go with black Americans as they are way too rough (like to pull hair and slap their asses and faces). Of course there are different strokes for different folks and there are garotas that like it rough. But I also did not discount the fact that they may have been saying some of this to me because I am white. And they may have felt it would make some difference to me (it wouldn't have.) But they all seemed to describe the rough behavior in the same way. And I can tell you personally that the ladies I am with have to work hard for the money, and they don't seem to complain.

You also seem to infer that it is the white mongers that are bad negotiators and are driving up the prices. Not sure if that was your point. If that was indeed your point. It is ridiculous. Your negotiating tips are simple common sense and "Negotiating 101" for mongers both black and white. Many members (both black and white) have written chapter and verse on negotiating tactics and inexpensive places.

I personally do not understand why race has to even enter into the discussions here. Your reports were of great interest without having to go there. Of course, we had that idiot posting a few weeks back and that was unfortunate. C'mon guys. It is all pink inside!

Thanks again for all the enjoyable reading and pics.

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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners.[/QUOTE]
Rodeo, thanks for sharing great reports and photos.

Just a small comment directed to the mongers who havn't yet had the opportunity to meet brazilian GPs. Don't worry about your skin colour. No matter whatever colour you are you will hear that the GPs prefer your colour. Doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, yellow or green.

MY experience in Brazil, with both GPs and regular girls, is that they prefer blond and blue eyed men. Specially the blue eyes got me very far and opened up for a lot of free bunda. :D The explanation to this might be that being blond and having blue eyes is a bit of rarity in Brazil. Opposites attracts...

What I heard from the GPs, in Copa, is that on the toplist of their favourite customers are black americans as they pay so well. ;)

[QUOTE=Sperto]My experience in Brazil, with both GPs and regular girls, is that they prefer blond and blue eyed men. The explanation to this might be that being blond and having blue eyes is a bit of rarity in Brazil. Opposites attracts.

What I heard from the GPs, in Copa, is that on the toplist of their favourite customers are black americans as they pay so well.[/QUOTE]I've heard the same thing being I am blond with blue eyes. I also hear that here in the states when I attend a Brazilian party or festival in Newark, NJ. I occasionally get together with a few different women from there. One calls me "My Blue Eyes" and the other "Azul". I believe they are genuinely fascinated with the different look. I also believe the GDPs like it in Rio. But I never fully believe anything they have to say as they are always in sales mode.

[quote=sperto]rodeo, thanks for sharing great reports and photos.

just a small comment directed to the mongers who havn't yet had the opportunity to meet brazilian gps. don't worry about your skin colour. no matter whatever colour you are you will hear that the gps prefer your colour. doesn't matter if you are white, black, brown, yellow or green.[/quote]

[quote=hughdad] but i never fully believe anything they have to say as they are always in sales mode.[/quote]the girls will tell you pretty much anything they think you want to hear. the only real color they see is green. don't worry about it. just go and have a ball. in a figure of speech, if loving them is wrong, i don't want to be right.

rr

Everone knows this girl.

She's in some movies too.

Anyone knows if her dark haired, and beautifully colored friend Lana is still working in Help?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Friday: Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little!

2- They expect you to counter their overpriced offers. If you just say no, without countering, they won't lower the price; you have to go the extra step to actually tell them what you think they are worth. HINT: always lowball, because they will only go down a bit initially from their original price, then they expect you to go up a bit from yours and then, you meet somewhere in the middle. If you're smart, you can actually use this negotiating time to get other extras (photos, anal, other freaky shit) thrown in.

3- The GDPs from HELP work there almost, if not every night. Money is constantly at the forefront of their mind. However, the HELP GDP, just like all women want to get away and feel and be treated like a lady whenever possible. If you can offer them something of value, besides money (its a hard sell, but your game has to be tight); I. E. A cool, comfortable bed with nice music, good food and good sex, as well as respect, she will be putty in your hand. 4- As if it hasn't been hammered home already on this forum, the earlier you go to HELP, the higher the prices are likely to stick. Anytime after 1:30am was good for me. The more standoffish you are, chances are, the more likely you are to find the GDP for you. You can watch for the ones who are watching everyone, then watch the ones that are only watching you. I even like to try to sneak up on the ones who haven't even noticed me yet--throws off their negotiations.

5- These bitches TALK! Yo, by the end of my trip, I had HELP girls telling me who I took from HELP, what we did together, how my apartment looked; it was actually kind of scary. Of course, WE talk as well! So, I knew alot about some of the bitches beforehand, allowing me to make informed decisions.

6- Don't go to HELP with the baby milk on the brain! Meaning, don't go to HELP with a NEED to fuck some *****. Get one earlier in the night (from Meia Pataca or Balcony or wherever), then you can just go to HELP and chill; if something happens, then it happens, if not, you're not desperate and don't make dumb decisions!

7- Learn how to give these garotas. Da DICK! Its amazing how low the prices will go once word gets around that you're either giving girls multiple orgasms and fucking their back out or makin' them drip with a hurricane tongue! Think about it, if some dude told you a ***** gave him a 1 hour BJ, swallowed, kept going after you came, was drooling all over the whole time without using her hands, wouldn't you be looking for her ass the next night? I know I would!

8- Watch what dudes you hang with. For better or worse, the GDPs will associate you with whomever you are talking to. If you're talking with a bunch of losers, cheapskates, or otherwise assholes, you will be labeled as such. On the other hand, if you are around a bunch of cool ass dudes, like I always seem to run into, you'll be surprised how the ass magnetizes to you. Serious. Yeah, its all about the mighty Real, but, girls like game too, no matter where they are.

9- Never let a GDP know how beautiful she is. Treat her initially like she is just another fish in the sea, no matter how much you like her. Your indifference, if she is remotely interested in you, will drive her crazy and cause her to try harder to stand out and make you happy.

Okay, back to the report:

So, I had to meet up with A158 and we were supposed to hit up some more Centro Massage spots prior to hitting 4x4 again. We ended up not hitting any massage places, stopping for some food and hooking up with two other debonnaire players from ISG: Sami and BigBlkBootyLuvr. We gave them the lowdown on what we had done so far, then were off to 4x4, where, yes, I smashed some major ass. Now look, I can't remember this *****'s name, only that she had a ridiculous ass and some small, gray eyes! Doesn't matter, I got pics! I gave some recommendations to Sami, BlackBooty Lover and A158 and they all took my advice. Once again! After all that shit was over, we headed out to Help!

We couldn't have been in Help for 45 minutes when I spotted. Her! Her is Juliana, the porn star.coming out of the bathroom and unattached! I pointed her out to Sami and was like, "dude, did you see that. You think I should? " Before I could finish the thought, I grabbed her by the arm and said, "hey, how much? " She was as thrown off and shocked as I was, but gave the warmest smile and said "Wow! How about 300R? " Although I was willing to pay 300 easy for those tits alone, I had to put up a fight. I went down to 200 and we met comfortably at 250R. And, dude, all the prices I've quoted you for HELP have been all-night prices (meaning from the time we leave until like 1pm). If you are paying all night prices and kicking the girl out after 2 hours, you are getting robbed! Now, I have to let you know, it wasn't until a few days later that anyone told me she was a porn star (yes, I missed the whole long thread on Juliana including the video links and all). But, I had no doubt after we got to my apartment that she had porn star virtues. Seriously, I think this girl is a nymphomaniac, for real. She WOULD NOT STOP! We fucked on and off from about 3am to 7:30am. I remember telling her I was going to take a break and get us some chocolate ice cream from the fridge. I came back with the ice cream and started eating it. She said "I don't want no fucking ice cream, I want the chocolate bar" and started sucking my dick like her life depended on it while I was eating ice cream. I was in heaven. Later that morning after a few hours of sleep, after I had made us breakfast (which she didn't eat), while I was eating breakfast, she starts going to town on my dick again! Man, I love this girl. I thought seriously about just keeping her the rest of my time there. Once again, I had just had the best sex of my life! I think she REALLY dug me because she left 3 email addresses, 2 cell phone numbers and the number to her mom's house in Bahia. She will always be on my must see list when I go to Rio. She's the truth--Juliana--bet! By the way, her body is fucking tight! She may have a little bit of a belly, but in no way would I call her fat. Definitely not enough to be a disqualifier. Do not pass her up, I'm tellin you!

That was my day bitches! Hope you like the pics.

Rode-fuckin-o

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[QUOTE=Sperto]The explanation to this might be that being blond and having blue eyes is a bit of rarity in Brazil. Opposites attracts...
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hughdad]I occasionally get together with a few different women from there. One calls me "My Blue Eyes" and the other "Azul". I believe they are genuinely fascinated with the different look. [/QUOTE]
Another explanation might be that being light-skinned, blond, and blue-eyed is clearly interpreted a certain way in Brazil (as a matter of fact, all over Latin-America): you're upper class. It doesn't matter whether you actually are upper-crust or any of the things that Latin-Americans usually associate with that (well-to-do, educated, etc.), it's their perception that matters in that respect: light-skinned generally means rich, dark-skinned generally means poor. That's what they've learned over centuries. As a light-skinned, blue-eyed, blond European guy, I can specifically vouch for Mexico, where I live :)

Just take a look at all the announcers on TV, the models, and the vast majority of soap opera actors in Brazil, and you get that point. Or in any Latin-American country, for that matter, really. (Northern) European looks are the looks of the rich and famous, plain and simple. They are so vastly non-representative of the average skin color in Latin-America that it's pretty disgraceful, actually.

In other words: as soon as you meet their perceived ideal of beauty, you might just be their "trophy" guy. Or "trophy" client.

EA

P.S.: A very good British friend of mine here in Mexico always tells me that, compared to Europe, as a European, you bat at least 2 above average in Mexico, meaning that if you manage to pull 6s and 7s in Europe, in Mexico you will manage to pulls 8s and 9s. Just because you're: white, blond, and blue-eyed, nothing else. Based on my personal experience, Brazil isn't any different in this respect.

[QUOTE=Hughdad] You should know by now that GDP's will say whatever they have to to close a deal and make someone feel special. (...)[/QUOTE]
To paraphrase this priceless advice of Hughdad, here is one line that has served me very well when I was in Rio, "If the girl's mouth is moving, she's lying". You simply cannot trust anything a GDP tells you unless there is irrefutable evidence to the contrary, and no, that doesn't include her GDP friends saying that she is right.

Anything she tells you that might make her appear in an even slightly more favorable light, let alone outright benefits her, you might as well just ignore. Especially GDS recounting their preferences over one type of monger over others, just total BS. I recall numerous experiences overhearing garotas at TA or MP bitterly complaining about (insert any nationality/race) and, five minutes later, after being approached by (insert any nationality/race), greatly exhorting their virtues. I even recall cases where they figured, hey, the guy doesn't speak any Portuguese, they would call (insert any nationality/race) their preferred customers ever in English while, at the same time, plotting in Portuguese with their friends how to rip them off for any penny they had.

They are just like used car salesmen. Just prettier and more feminine, but also more used :)

EA

[QUOTE=Bizzie]Doesn't really matter much if Help closes as long as something similar become available. I mean there should be a 'take-out' alternative to the fuck-on-the spot options like Termas and VM.
For all I care, they could name the new place "Pleh" and put it on the otherside of NS copacabana.[/QUOTE]

Well there is more than one scenario for this:

Help management might not want to give up their business and and want to open up a similar type club and have all the GDP's go there after Help is closed. The government might strike a deal with them to do this just to get them out of Help, this is just my opinion. They could offer them Bingo Arpoador even though it has already been expropriated, they could relax that and let them have it just to take over the Help location.

On the other hand if Help just closes then the Gdp's can take over any club in Copa, what could stop them? After all Help was a regular club once back in 1984, it wasn't until the late 80's that the Gdp's infiltrated the place completely and the rest is history.

For example they can start going to Bunker 94 in Copa, near the Sofitel, Mongers can follow, the current clientele would be pushed out, the GDp's could establish a new home base. They can do this anywhere, can't deny them entrance and you can't deny the mongers entrance.

You'll see, after Help is closed and I hope it doesn't another ground zero will be established somewhere in Copa. After all the monger business is more 7 days a week as opposed to local partiers who party mostly on the weekend, so the owners might welcome this new steady business.

Geez, and all along I thought the ladies ( insert gdp and/or regular ladies)were into the color green......I am such a fool!!!!!!!!!!!

RonnyRon......you got it right....and it can be applied to almost every woman on this planet.

[QUOTE=Carlos Primeros]I will follow your recommendation and will go to Chocolate - this one is new to me.[/QUOTE]Carlos - all details on this link - have fun.

[url]http://www.mobilenative.com/record.php?poi_id=Gz_AZMjmVeA%3D[/url]

On my August trip to Rio, I met up with Geofagus in order to check out some of the Centro termas.
Using Sperto’s map as a guide we started with the infamous BA85. This place has to be seen in order to be believed! A spiral wrought iron staircase extending up 5 floors! Despite what anyone says, it is only wide enough for only ONE person. We walk to the top and work our way down. And work it is, very hard on the thigh muscles! On each floor there is a large room with the classic sleazy red lighting. Usually a bar at one end, maybe a few chairs, and some half naked women strolling about. The numbers vary from as few as 3 to as many as 7 or 8. Quality was not over 7, and that’s being generous. However that could vary depending on the day or time. The girls also hang around outside of the casa near the staircase, giving you a better view. Some floors also have prices (drinks) posted on the wall near the entrance. You need to speak at least basic Porto. Also, each floor has music (usually funk) blaring!
Next was Rua do Ouvidor, 130, #707 (aka Stella/Hollywood). Nice selection of girls (about 6 or 7) wearing little jaguar outfits, rooms in the back. Excellent prices (R20 a pop/ R40 per dupla).
Then on to Travessa do Ouvidor, 37, A large room, well lit with and older lady behind the counter. Only 2 girls at that time (one mulatta spinner), but very friendly and tried very hard to convince us to stay!
After that Geo had one not on the list Av. Almirante Barroso, 6 #304/305. We went there twice, and saw 3 out of 4 girls, an average blond, a short muscular morena, and a thick mulatta with a great personality. Geo’s eyes lit up. I think she’s his next baby’s mama! :)
On to Av. Rio Branco, 156 #1706 was some kind of school, #1825 no answer, #3330 a CD/DVD transfer business, and #3320, a nice clean setup, nice selection of good-looking women, however one of them told us that all the girls do covered BJ’s.
Rio Branco 181, 2 girls, sheets should have been changed about 2 months ago. If you want a girl with a gap between her teeth, then this is the place for you.
Rio Branco, 185 #1829 (Flavia massagem) no answer, #2114 paradise! This place had an excellent selection of about 15 to 20 girls, very clean, got very busy around 6pm. And I can also verify that Susanny (about 5’4) is carrying considerable “junk in the trunk”!

It was great hanging with you Geo! Next time we hit the rest of the list!

[QUOTE=Cho 637]On to Av. Rio Branco, 156 #1706 was some kind of school, #1825 no answer, #3330 a CD/DVD transfer business...[/QUOTE]
Nice report.
Cho, I think you were using the list from March 2007
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82884[/url]
Sala 1706, 1825 and 3330 all moved two years ago.

Next time try the list from March 2009
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=875442&postcount=1030[/url]

[QUOTE=Mangera]Geez, and all along I thought the ladies ( insert gdp and/or regular ladies)were into the color green......I am such a fool!!!!!!!!!!!

RonnyRon......you got it right....and it can be applied to almost every woman on this planet.[/QUOTE]

Exactly, you have guys on here who actually think that brasilian women prefer one race over another!! Thats the stupidest shit I have ever heard of, especialy, considering you can find every shade under the rainbow in brasil!!

[QUOTE=Hughdad]Rodeo,

First off. Thanks for taking the time to write such detailed and informative reports about your Rio adventures. And for sharing the great pics. Seems like your experiences support much of what has been written here about venues, the ladies, negotiating tactics, etc. I enjoyed reading them and will certainly take your recommendations under consideration when I visit these locations later this month and again in November. Much appreciated.

However, I do have a few comments to make on your most recent report:

Your claim that "many-a-garota" don't like white men as lovers and prefer black men and "they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners" is ridiculous. You stated you do not think they were saying this to you because you are black. You should know by now that GDP's will say whatever they have to to close a deal and make someone feel special. And it seems you bought into it. I can tell you that I have had a dozen different garotas (black, white, mulata) all complain that they do not like to go with black Americans as they are way too rough (like to pull hair and slap their asses and faces). Of course there are different strokes for different folks and there are garotas that like it rough. But I also did not discount the fact that they may have been saying some of this to me because I am white. And they may have felt it would make some difference to me (it wouldn't have.) But they all seemed to describe the rough behavior in the same way. And I can tell you personally that the ladies I am with have to work hard for the money, and they don't seem to complain.

You also seem to infer that it is the white mongers that are bad negotiators and are driving up the prices. Not sure if that was your point. If that was indeed your point. It is ridiculous. Your negotiating tips are simple common sense and "Negotiating 101" for mongers both black and white. Many members (both black and white) have written chapter and verse on negotiating tactics and inexpensive places.

I personally do not understand why race has to even enter into the discussions here. Your reports were of great interest without having to go there. Of course, we had that idiot posting a few weeks back and that was unfortunate. C'mon guys. It is all pink inside!

Thanks again for all the enjoyable reading and pics.

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Don't be a fool and belive them.

Only someone weak or suffering from retardation will belive what a GDP tells them. They love fools like that. It's all part off there game.

[QUOTE=Sperto]Nice report.
Cho, I think you were using the list from March 2007
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=82884[/url]
Sala 1706, 1825 and 3330 all moved two years ago.

Next time try the list from March 2009
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=875442&postcount=1030[/url][/QUOTE]

Thanks. I had the original blown up so I could read it. Have to do the same with this one.

This has been my humble observation with non-pros inside of Brazil:
[QUOTE=Bravo]Exactly, you have guys on here who actually think that brasilian women prefer one race over another!! Thats the stupidest shit I have ever heard of, especialy, considering you can find every shade under the rainbow in brasil!![/QUOTE]
This has been my humble observation with the majority of Brazilian non-pros I have come across who live outside of Brazil:
[QUOTE=El Austriaco]Another explanation might be that being light-skinned, blond, and blue-eyed is clearly interpreted a certain way in Brazil (as a matter of fact, all over Latin-America): you're upper class. It doesn't matter whether you actually are upper-crust or any of the things that Latin-Americans usually associate with that (well-to-do, educated, etc.), it's their perception that matters in that respect: light-skinned generally means rich, dark-skinned generally means poor. That's what they've learned over centuries. As a light-skinned, blue-eyed, blond European guy, I can specifically vouch for Mexico, where I live :)[/QUOTE]
Being a black American guy, I have raised this issue with several Brazilian friends. Those who have never been outside of Brazil can not believe the latter, and those who have been abroad will notice it only after the issue is brought up. I live in a large city with a respectable amount of Brazilians and have seen a black guy with a Brazilian woman at a Brazilian restaurant, disco, or other places approaching zero times. I also get shot down by them many more times in the U.S.A. than I do in Brazil.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I live in a large city with a respectable amount of Brazilians and have seen a black guy with a Brazilian woman at a Brazilian restaurant, disco, or other places approaching zero times. I also get shot down by them many more times in the U.S.A. than I do in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Most of the Brasileiras that I come across living in the US (not including strippers) are not anywhere near as hott as I encounter in Brasil. The only exceptions are in Europe...particularly Spain, Portugal and Switzerland.

I would much rather travel to Brasil for the women. I have no interest in Stateside Brasileiras.

I enjoy going to help. I understand why some guys don't like help. That is the great think about Brazil, there is something for everybody. From Barbarealla to VM, there is something for everyone.

I understand why the Government would want to close Help because of its high profile location. But I don't understand the talk about how it is going to help tourism by closing Help. I go to Rio often, sometimes with the boys and sometime with my girl. I usually stay at the Hotel Copacabana when I go with my girl. I don't go to Help or in the direction at night and my girl has no idea it even exist! I can not believe that one person is refusiing to go to Rio because of Help and what goes on there at night.

Now, a lot of guys go to Brazil BECAUSE of Help and there is a chance that some of them will no longer go to Brazil. But I don't think that it will hurt Brazil not having help. It will not make that much of a difference in tourism.

I do think that some of the girls that work in Help will see their quality of life go down a little. I hope that something similar to Help starts up once Help closes but even if it doesn't, I will be back in a month and in the years to come.

[QUOTE=Hughdad]The fact of the matter is Brazil is coming into its' own as a country. And closing Help and cleaning up the area is an important step in this process. It is a highly visible statement as it front and center on the oceanfront.

GDP's and p4p will always be available - it will just be less visible. Agree with Sperto, any lost $ from any mongers that stop coming to Brazil because of Help's closing will be insignificant and easily replaced with other tourist $.[/QUOTE]

the Olympics are coming!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090902/ap_on_sp_ol/oly2016_bids[/url]

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]the Olympics are coming!

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090902/ap_on_sp_ol/oly2016_bids[/url][/QUOTE]

Not so fast. Although the Evaluation Commission report seems tilted to Rio, the final voting by the Olympic General Congress on October 2 will be highly political and can turn things upside down. There are usually several rounds of voting to arrive at consensus on the selected city.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]Only someone weak or suffering from retardation will belive what a GDP tells them. They love fools like that. It's all part off there game.[/QUOTE]Hahahaha! What a vag! Only someone with a weak dick who feels bad for overspending would give a shit. Kick rocks kid!

Rodeo

Saturday: Okay, so after I finally recovered from Juliana I met up with the mongering crew at Meia Pataca in the early afternoon. One thing I hadn't mentioned was that the weather thus far had been really crappy! Mostly overcast and light rain with a slight chill (nothing that really required more than a long sleeved shirt, but, looking at the cariocas, you would thing you were in Colorado in December). So, I'm there with Sami and BlkBig BootyLuvr and we meet up with a bunch of other mongers from Memphis and some other places. As soon as I sat down at the "monger" table though, I make eye contact with a very beautiful, very "normal" looking girl. She was brown skinned and really looked like a regular, beautiful looking African American girl that you'd see in any city in America. We locked eyes and she gave the biggest smile and I was in love! Those that know me know that I am a sucker for a pretty face; I can resist the great asses, the tits, the reputations, but something about a beautiful smile and eyes gets me everytime no matter what the rest of the package looks like. I immediately start talking to Sami (or, my conscience, as he seemed to play that role in my selections) and getting his confirmation on how beautiful she was. Then, she started talking to her girlfriend as she was staring and me and smiling even harder. I stared at her smiling as I was talking to Sami and mumbled "Do not smile at me, do not fucking smile at me because you'll end up with a dick in your ass. Please! " 30 seconds later, I was excusing myself from the monger table and headed for her table. I sat directly across from her and introduced myself to both her and her friend, Viviane. This angel of my dreams was named. Ingrid! Yes, since my return I have seen reporting on, this, apparent staple of the mongering scene on Copa, but, hey, I'm a Rio newbie, so, she was new to me. I spoke to her like she was a normal girl (as she of course spoke perfect English). She was very cordial, submissive and open in her conversation. In contrast, she had the most annoying fucking friend I had ever met! This ***** makes the cockblocking fat friend from the clubs in the US seem friendly. Viviane just had this real aggressive tone to her voice and that annoying know it all attitude as if just because she spoke English well, she knew everything about Americans and men in general. Still, I tried to remain polite as still, I thought they might be normal girls. I know, I know, how naive. In my conversation, with Ingrid, she mentioned that she was going to work soon. When I asked where she worked and she responded Lluomo's I felt the shocked look come across my face. My little fantasy had come to an end. At the same time, that dumbass in the back of my head kept saying "maybe YOU can get her for free." Hahaha, I was sooo stupid! So, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom, I took her seat next to Ingrid to get closer to her and a little more intimate. Things were going well, until that ***** Viviane came back and started going off about me taking her seat. I told her to chill out and I'd be up in a second, I was just having some conversation with her friend. She kept bitching and having an attitude, but moved to another seat.

Me and the crew were already planning to hit Lluomo's tonight, so, Ingrid just gave me more of a reason. Now, I have to point out, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom and when she came back, all eyes were on her. She had a really great ass with a thickness that went all the way down to her ankles, topped off with a great rack, and an okay face, the only downside was her shitty attitude. Oh well! So, I go back to the crew and we shoot the shit some more.

. A couple of hours go by and we've eaten and drank a bit. By now, Ingrid had left, Viviane was still there along with a new girl, Danieli, I think. One of the guys in the crew arranged a driver, GG, to take 8 of us to Lluomo's. Now, we were all going to be able to get there for a total of 10R. Not bad in my opinion. This was GG's offer, not ours. As we were all figuring this out, do you know this ***** Viviane had the nerve to tell GG that he should charge us more because we have so many people and she told us that we should pay him 20R? ! Are you serious *****? ! Look, I'm not a cheapskate. I was on a budget, but still, I believe in being fair to everyone. We had already talked about giving him a good tip, but to have this girl basically try to screw up what we had negotiated, well, that really pissed me off! So I told her, "how are you going to tell someone else how much money I need to pay them? " I told her she needed to stick to selling pussy and let the men take care of business. Needless to say, that pissed her off and she started being all loud about us being cheap and taking advantage of Brazilians and being disrespectful by stealing her chair earlier! Yo, I gave it right back to her though asking her why she was the only girl who had been here for so long and didn't have any guys interested in her. My boy Sami told me not to even waste my time on her; everybody thought we were about to come to blows. Another, older, seasoned Rio monger even came over to try to calm me down. Fuck that, I didn't need to calm down, I was calm; I just needed this chick to stay in her place. I don't go on her job kickin dicks out of her mouth, so I don't expect her to intervene when I'm handling business. About a half hour later, after wrangling all the guys together, we were off!

Lluomo's, as has been reported is located inside of a shopping center (I wouldn't call it a mall though) on the second floor. Closer set up to Monte Carlo than 4x4. Put on my robe and went into the sauna and, to my surprise, there was a full, complimentary buffet out: black beans and rice, prime rib, beef ribs, salad, assorted fruit, and a few other items I couldn't identify. All free! I grubbed down for about 20 minutes before heading into the Boite. I sat down and started downing the Caipirinhas (had about 2 before noticing Ingrid in the corner dancing). There were probably about 4 real hotties in there out of maybe 12-15 girls. It seemed like alot of girls because the place is so small. There weren't many guys in there either. Music got better the longer we were there. I had my eye on one in particular. She had long, curly blonde hair and a mean ass with an ample rack. Unfortunately, by the 4th Caipirinha (those shits are serious), I ended up having some other blonde sit next to me and I started talking to her. She talked back, very seductively and I kind of led her on. Massaging her shoulders and kissing her neck. All the while, I'm watching this other sexy ass blonde walking around and winking at her, undressing her with my eyes on the sly. Finally, I saw her break for the bathroom and decided to make my move. I told the other blondie that I was going to the bathroom and would be back. I left the boite and waited for. Doris to come out of the bathroom. When she came out, all I said was "vamos! " I had already spoken to her and done introductions earlier in the night, so, it wasn't as cold as it seemed. She looked surprised because she had seen me with the other girl, seemingly sold for the night. Man, this Doris was a real doll. She asked me to give her a minute and she returned in a red satin robe which hid a purple bra and panty/garter set, which replaced her red bra and panties from the boite. This outfit along with the hair, the super great attitude and, just overall beauty made her a fantastic lay for the night. You'll all be happy to know that she was also very open to allowing photos!

As the night was still young, me, Sami and Blk BigBootyLuvr decided to switch things up and see how the other half lived. We caught a taxi (who took us for a 'ride') to Club 00 (cero cero). Don't ask me where it was, I have no clue. We went there after first going to our crib to throw on some nice clothes. This was a NICE club! Everyone was dressed to impress. Imagine a club in NYC or Miami or LA and you'll get the picture; it had a nice outdoor area, an inside dance floor and a restaurant. After we ate and walked around a bit, it was clear that this was not a circle that is easily penetrated, especially if one did not speak Porto. Nevertheless, we had a great time, just people watching, reminiscing, cracking jokes and just all around bullshitting like us guys like to do. I think I added 3 more Caipirinhas (including a strawberry one which I don't recommend) to my count at 00. We all decided to check out Terraco Atlantico, but didn't plan to go into Help. Errr, well, THEY didn't plan to go in; I know I have a problem, and I was not ready for rehab tonight! Oddly enough, our night in front of help started out kinda weird. It all started with Sami plugging sublimenal suggestions of trannies into Blk BigBootyLuvr's head. Then, in reference to a female at the table next to us, Sami suggests to him: "Dude, I think that's a man." BBBL in his slightly inebriated, mostly not givinafuck attitude actually got the girl's attention and asked her if she was a man! Why did this dude start with this woman. Yo, she went off about traveling all over the world and only in Brazil, her home land do people ask her this question. She starts crying and shouting and asking people if she looked like a man and talking to Brazilians (women and men) and pointing at us. At that time, we felt it was probably best to get BBBL out of here. We hustled him into a cab like we were the Secret Service and he was the President or some shit; it was actually quite funny! At the same time, some poor joe looked like he might have been drugged by two girls who were trying to hustle him into a cab. I think the Help/Terraco Atlantico staff intervened. They had him sign something, possibly just his bill or maybe a release, then put him in a cab by himself. Had those girls tried to get in with him, I would have intervened. The old guy was really out of it. Dudes, be careful and watch your drinks!

As for me and my deviant ass, I was back on the prowl in Help again! Yo, every fucking night I was there, there was tons of eligible GDPs. And by eligible I mean fuckable; and by fuckable, I mean attractive faces with nice asses and/or tits. Interestingly enough, guess who we saw looking delicious like a damn sirloin steak? Viviane. When I saw her, I looked at Sami and he was like "You're gonna fuck her! You need to fuck the shit out of her for all of that shit earlier." I laughed, but, he was right. However, I could not approach her. As we were talking and trying intently not to show her that we were paying any attention to her. She recognized and began smiling and started talking cordially, and in a more conciliatory, almost apologetic tone. This was getting interesting. Then she started touching me. Nothing sexual, just the hand on the bicep, hand on the chest kind of thing. All the time, I had the shittiest look on my face like, "Are you for real? Do you seriously think after all that shit, I'm gonna give you my money? " So, I asked her the one question that I think any monger in my position would have asked."How much? " She smiled and rather than answer me, she ASKED me to go to the terrace so we could talk. She then proceeded to tell me all about her life and the type of guys she runs into and how she has an attitude as a defense mechanism and how she was sorry about earlier, yada yada ya. Then she said, and I quote: "Listen, I really want you, and, I know you want me, so, let's talk about what we need to do to get past any bad feelings between us." I was like. This ***** is good! It was so thick, I could feel the 'game' oozing out of her mouth as she spoke. It was great. But, you see, I had a little something up my sleeve as well. So, I kept pressing her about her attitude and what guarantee would I have that she wouldn't go apeshit again once she got to my apartment. Then, we got to the key question. How much? Her first offer 300R. I was surprised at her low initial bid, but kept my cool. I thought about it for a second and told her: "I think that's a fair price." and added, "but, I don't know if I'm comfortable agreeing to that amount with you." I told her that I would be comfortable with 200R and if not only did she NOT raise her voice or argue with me, but also made me come 3 times, let me do anal twice and sucked my dick twice for at least 30 minutes each time and let me take at least 3 pictures, I would give her 300R. She responded: "Wow, you are good; I like it! " She thought about it for awhile, struggled, then agreed. I could not believe this was about to happen; this was probably the most sexual tension I've had with any woman and I basically got her to agree to let me ream her till my heart's content. Gentlemen, we must do what we must do! And I did. And I did it well. I brought that thing home and had her screaming, begging, moaning, sucking, fucking, bucking and drained. Oh, I almost forgot, to give you an idea of how much I HAD to ream this girl, when we were arguing earlier, she also said, very loudly I might add: "You probably can't fuck anyway! " So, I had her to scream out the open window while I was drilling her: I can't fuck that's why my ass is getting drilled! I talk to much that's why I have to eat dick. I shit you not, I made her say these things in English, so I know she said it though, she'll probably never admit it. She didn't seem to mind, probably because most people didn't understand what the hell she was saying. I wish I had it all on camera, but alas, no video. Pictures are not the best, but, ehh, you get the point. Hahaha! Viviane. One for the books. Nighty night bitches, Vila Mimosa and my homey Voyager tomorrow! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Brugal8]Great report and pics as always rodeo,

Please more pics of alessandra that shorty is fire! 1[/QUOTE] did anyone find if Alessandra came out in a video of any kind? Mike of Brazil or any of those? If anyone wants to share the info let me know.

[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]did anyone find if Alessandra came out in a video of any kind? Mike of Brazil or any of those? If anyone wants to share the info let me know.[/QUOTE]

Alessandra/Mini Me told me a few years ago she would be open to doing a porno, as long as they paid her well. However, I dont think she ever did one.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Saturday: Okay, so after I finally recovered from Juliana I met up with the mongering crew at Meia Pataca in the early afternoon. ! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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These are some serious reports my friend...I Wish I had more time in Rio to see it first hand, as I have witnessed two of your reports. I can say the women here are just f**ken awesome. The sad part is I have a hard on every morning just thinking about all the eye candy I saw in my two days in Rio. I need to get back to this place and soon ...

On a side note, I admire your restraint after reading some of the racial comments some of the guys are posting here. Well since I have met you, these guys don't have a clue when it comes to making these comments about you. ......See you soon my mongering friend

Cheers

A158

[QUOTE=A158]These are some serious reports my friend....Wish I had more time in Rio to see it as I have witnessed two of your reports first hand. I can say though the women here are just f**ken awesome. The sad part is I have a hard on every morning just thinking about all the eye candy I saw in my two days in Rio. I need to get back to this place and soon ...

On a side note, I admire your restraint after reading some of the racial comments some of the guys are posting here. Well since I have met you, these guys don't have a clue when it comes to making these comments about you. ......See you soon my mongering friend

Cheers

A158[/QUOTE]I am sorry, but I don't understand why people find that there are racist coments here, all people are saying is that gdp's say what ever to who ever to help there buisness and weak people belive them. I spend about 3 to 4 months a year in Rio and belive me GDP's will say what ever suits the moment to get the buisness.

Thanks for your reports, I enjoyed very much.

Thanks for sharing photos too and keep on have fun :)

P.S. you have PM

[QUOTE=Rastaman]Most of the Brasileiras that I come across living in the US (not including strippers) are not anywhere near as hott as I encounter in Brasil. The only exceptions are in Europe...particularly Spain, Portugal and Switzerland.

I would much rather travel to Brasil for the women. I have no interest in Stateside Brasileiras.[/QUOTE]Very true, I hang out in Newark which basically has a lil brasil and the chicks that immigrate here are just a couple steps below what you get in rio or Sao Paolo, almost like they are only letting the defective ones leave, lol

[QUOTE=Bravo]Exactly, you have guys on here who actually think that brasilian women prefer one race over another!! Thats the stupidest shit I have ever heard of, especialy, considering you can find every shade under the rainbow in brasil!![/QUOTE]

When girls start talking about this crap to me I generally say thanks, but no thanks. I don't need that type of ego stroking. If some hot gdp wants to impress me, she can suck my dick, play with my balls, make me a sandwich, and let me go the fuck to sleep!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryjerrob,

You could not have said this any better!

[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]When girls start talking about this crap to me I generally say thanks, but no thanks. I don't need that type of ego stroking. If some hot gdp wants to impress me, she can suck my dick, play with my balls, make me a sandwich, and let me go the fuck to sleep!!!!!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

That Viviane is something else, great work Rodeo.

No country better than Brazil.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Saturday: Okay, so after I finally recovered from Juliana I met up with the mongering crew at Meia Pataca in the early afternoon. One thing I hadn't mentioned was that the weather thus far had been really crappy! Mostly overcast and light rain with a slight chill (nothing that really required more than a long sleeved shirt, but, looking at the cariocas, you would thing you were in Colorado in December). So, I'm there with Sami and BlkBig BootyLuvr and we meet up with a bunch of other mongers from Memphis and some other places. As soon as I sat down at the "monger" table though, I make eye contact with a very beautiful, very "normal" looking girl. She was brown skinned and really looked like a regular, beautiful looking African American girl that you'd see in any city in America. We locked eyes and she gave the biggest smile and I was in love! Those that know me know that I am a sucker for a pretty face; I can resist the great asses, the tits, the reputations, but something about a beautiful smile and eyes gets me everytime no matter what the rest of the package looks like. I immediately start talking to Sami (or, my conscience, as he seemed to play that role in my selections) and getting his confirmation on how beautiful she was. Then, she started talking to her girlfriend as she was staring and me and smiling even harder. I stared at her smiling as I was talking to Sami and mumbled "Do not smile at me, do not fucking smile at me because you'll end up with a dick in your ass. Please! " 30 seconds later, I was excusing myself from the monger table and headed for her table. I sat directly across from her and introduced myself to both her and her friend, Viviane. This angel of my dreams was named. Ingrid! Yes, since my return I have seen reporting on, this, apparent staple of the mongering scene on Copa, but, hey, I'm a Rio newbie, so, she was new to me. I spoke to her like she was a normal girl (as she of course spoke perfect English). She was very cordial, submissive and open in her conversation. In contrast, she had the most annoying fucking friend I had ever met! This ***** makes the cockblocking fat friend from the clubs in the US seem friendly. Viviane just had this real aggressive tone to her voice and that annoying know it all attitude as if just because she spoke English well, she knew everything about Americans and men in general. Still, I tried to remain polite as still, I thought they might be normal girls. I know, I know, how naive. In my conversation, with Ingrid, she mentioned that she was going to work soon. When I asked where she worked and she responded Lluomo's I felt the shocked look come across my face. My little fantasy had come to an end. At the same time, that dumbass in the back of my head kept saying "maybe YOU can get her for free." Hahaha, I was sooo stupid! So, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom, I took her seat next to Ingrid to get closer to her and a little more intimate. Things were going well, until that ***** Viviane came back and started going off about me taking her seat. I told her to chill out and I'd be up in a second, I was just having some conversation with her friend. She kept bitching and having an attitude, but moved to another seat.

Me and the crew were already planning to hit Lluomo's tonight, so, Ingrid just gave me more of a reason. Now, I have to point out, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom and when she came back, all eyes were on her. She had a really great ass with a thickness that went all the way down to her ankles, topped off with a great rack, and an okay face, the only downside was her shitty attitude. Oh well! So, I go back to the crew and we shoot the shit some more.

. A couple of hours go by and we've eaten and drank a bit. By now, Ingrid had left, Viviane was still there along with a new girl, Danieli, I think. One of the guys in the crew arranged a driver, GG, to take 8 of us to Lluomo's. Now, we were all going to be able to get there for a total of 10R. Not bad in my opinion. This was GG's offer, not ours. As we were all figuring this out, do you know this ***** Viviane had the nerve to tell GG that he should charge us more because we have so many people and she told us that we should pay him 20R? ! Are you serious *****? ! Look, I'm not a cheapskate. I was on a budget, but still, I believe in being fair to everyone. We had already talked about giving him a good tip, but to have this girl basically try to screw up what we had negotiated, well, that really pissed me off! So I told her, "how are you going to tell someone else how much money I need to pay them? " I told her she needed to stick to selling pussy and let the men take care of business. Needless to say, that pissed her off and she started being all loud about us being cheap and taking advantage of Brazilians and being disrespectful by stealing her chair earlier! Yo, I gave it right back to her though asking her why she was the only girl who had been here for so long and didn't have any guys interested in her. My boy Sami told me not to even waste my time on her; everybody thought we were about to come to blows. Another, older, seasoned Rio monger even came over to try to calm me down. Fuck that, I didn't need to calm down, I was calm; I just needed this chick to stay in her place. I don't go on her job kickin dicks out of her mouth, so I don't expect her to intervene when I'm handling business. About a half hour later, after wrangling all the guys together, we were off!

Lluomo's, as has been reported is located inside of a shopping center (I wouldn't call it a mall though) on the second floor. Closer set up to Monte Carlo than 4x4. Put on my robe and went into the sauna and, to my surprise, there was a full, complimentary buffet out: black beans and rice, prime rib, beef ribs, salad, assorted fruit, and a few other items I couldn't identify. All free! I grubbed down for about 20 minutes before heading into the Boite. I sat down and started downing the Caipirinhas (had about 2 before noticing Ingrid in the corner dancing). There were probably about 4 real hotties in there out of maybe 12-15 girls. It seemed like alot of girls because the place is so small. There weren't many guys in there either. Music got better the longer we were there. I had my eye on one in particular. She had long, curly blonde hair and a mean ass with an ample rack. Unfortunately, by the 4th Caipirinha (those shits are serious), I ended up having some other blonde sit next to me and I started talking to her. She talked back, very seductively and I kind of led her on. Massaging her shoulders and kissing her neck. All the while, I'm watching this other sexy ass blonde walking around and winking at her, undressing her with my eyes on the sly. Finally, I saw her break for the bathroom and decided to make my move. I told the other blondie that I was going to the bathroom and would be back. I left the boite and waited for. Doris to come out of the bathroom. When she came out, all I said was "vamos! " I had already spoken to her and done introductions earlier in the night, so, it wasn't as cold as it seemed. She looked surprised because she had seen me with the other girl, seemingly sold for the night. Man, this Doris was a real doll. She asked me to give her a minute and she returned in a red satin robe which hid a purple bra and panty/garter set, which replaced her red bra and panties from the boite. This outfit along with the hair, the super great attitude and, just overall beauty made her a fantastic lay for the night. You'll all be happy to know that she was also very open to allowing photos!

As the night was still young, me, Sami and Blk BigBootyLuvr decided to switch things up and see how the other half lived. We caught a taxi (who took us for a 'ride') to Club 00 (cero cero). Don't ask me where it was, I have no clue. We went there after first going to our crib to throw on some nice clothes. This was a NICE club! Everyone was dressed to impress. Imagine a club in NYC or Miami or LA and you'll get the picture; it had a nice outdoor area, an inside dance floor and a restaurant. After we ate and walked around a bit, it was clear that this was not a circle that is easily penetrated, especially if one did not speak Porto. Nevertheless, we had a great time, just people watching, reminiscing, cracking jokes and just all around bullshitting like us guys like to do. I think I added 3 more Caipirinhas (including a strawberry one which I don't recommend) to my count at 00. We all decided to check out Terraco Atlantico, but didn't plan to go into Help. Errr, well, THEY didn't plan to go in; I know I have a problem, and I was not ready for rehab tonight! Oddly enough, our night in front of help started out kinda weird. It all started with Sami plugging sublimenal suggestions of trannies into Blk BigBootyLuvr's head. Then, in reference to a female at the table next to us, Sami suggests to him: "Dude, I think that's a man." BBBL in his slightly inebriated, mostly not givinafuck attitude actually got the girl's attention and asked her if she was a man! Why did this dude start with this woman. Yo, she went off about traveling all over the world and only in Brazil, her home land do people ask her this question. She starts crying and shouting and asking people if she looked like a man and talking to Brazilians (women and men) and pointing at us. At that time, we felt it was probably best to get BBBL out of here. We hustled him into a cab like we were the Secret Service and he was the President or some shit; it was actually quite funny! At the same time, some poor joe looked like he might have been drugged by two girls who were trying to hustle him into a cab. I think the Help/Terraco Atlantico staff intervened. They had him sign something, possibly just his bill or maybe a release, then put him in a cab by himself. Had those girls tried to get in with him, I would have intervened. The old guy was really out of it. Dudes, be careful and watch your drinks!

As for me and my deviant ass, I was back on the prowl in Help again! Yo, every fucking night I was there, there was tons of eligible GDPs. And by eligible I mean fuckable; and by fuckable, I mean attractive faces with nice asses and/or tits. Interestingly enough, guess who we saw looking delicious like a damn sirloin steak? Viviane. When I saw her, I looked at Sami and he was like "You're gonna fuck her! You need to fuck the shit out of her for all of that shit earlier." I laughed, but, he was right. However, I could not approach her. As we were talking and trying intently not to show her that we were paying any attention to her. She recognized and began smiling and started talking cordially, and in a more conciliatory, almost apologetic tone. This was getting interesting. Then she started touching me. Nothing sexual, just the hand on the bicep, hand on the chest kind of thing. All the time, I had the shittiest look on my face like, "Are you for real? Do you seriously think after all that shit, I'm gonna give you my money? " So, I asked her the one question that I think any monger in my position would have asked."How much? " She smiled and rather than answer me, she ASKED me to go to the terrace so we could talk. She then proceeded to tell me all about her life and the type of guys she runs into and how she has an attitude as a defense mechanism and how she was sorry about earlier, yada yada ya. Then she said, and I quote: "Listen, I really want you, and, I know you want me, so, let's talk about what we need to do to get past any bad feelings between us." I was like. This ***** is good! It was so thick, I could feel the 'game' oozing out of her mouth as she spoke. It was great. But, you see, I had a little something up my sleeve as well. So, I kept pressing her about her attitude and what guarantee would I have that she wouldn't go apeshit again once she got to my apartment. Then, we got to the key question. How much? Her first offer 300R. I was surprised at her low initial bid, but kept my cool. I thought about it for a second and told her: "I think that's a fair price." and added, "but, I don't know if I'm comfortable agreeing to that amount with you." I told her that I would be comfortable with 200R and if not only did she NOT raise her voice or argue with me, but also made me come 3 times, let me do anal twice and sucked my dick twice for at least 30 minutes each time and let me take at least 3 pictures, I would give her 300R. She responded: "Wow, you are good; I like it! " She thought about it for awhile, struggled, then agreed. I could not believe this was about to happen; this was probably the most sexual tension I've had with any woman and I basically got her to agree to let me ream her till my heart's content. Gentlemen, we must do what we must do! And I did. And I did it well. I brought that thing home and had her screaming, begging, moaning, sucking, fucking, bucking and drained. Oh, I almost forgot, to give you an idea of how much I HAD to ream this girl, when we were arguing earlier, she also said, very loudly I might add: "You probably can't fuck anyway! " So, I had her to scream out the open window while I was drilling her: I can't fuck that's why my ass is getting drilled! I talk to much that's why I have to eat dick. I shit you not, I made her say these things in English, so I know she said it though, she'll probably never admit it. She didn't seem to mind, probably because most people didn't understand what the hell she was saying. I wish I had it all on camera, but alas, no video. Pictures are not the best, but, ehh, you get the point. Hahaha! Viviane. One for the books. Nighty night bitches, Vila Mimosa and my homey Voyager tomorrow! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Doc Simp]Very true, I hang out in Newark which basically has a little brasil and the chicks that immigrate here are just a couple steps below what you get in Rio or Sao Paolo, almost like they are only letting the defective ones leave, LOL[/QUOTE] I live around that area myself and to be honest with you what we have here is no comparison to what is out their. We, for some odd reason, get the rejects. And I go to the dances that they have at the euro-palace. Or guitar bar which is famous for playing there music. And once they are here they aim for the Caucasians than there own. And that is the truth. Once here they just aim for the Residency or Citizenship. Hey have you ever been to adega?

Good place to see the Brazilian bunda in Ironbound.

Hi Rodeo,

Great reports and nic pic. Regarding 00, it's in Gavea. But be careful when you go there, it use to be a really cool hangout for the money people in Rio, but know it's well known for being a hangout for gays some of the week days.

Keep up the good reports man it's good entertainment even for a guy that have been there a few times.

Chico

[QUOTE=Doc Simp]Very true, I hang out in Newark which basically has a lil brasil and the chicks that immigrate here are just a couple steps below what you get in rio or Sao Paolo, almost like they are only letting the defective ones leave, lol[/QUOTE]The hot Brasileiras are poor for the most part, and cannot get a visa to travel to the US...whereby the affluent Brasileiras which mostly aren't so stunning can get a visa to travel to the US. Many just stay, and get married in the US.

Ha ha ha! Go around kick'n dicks out of her mouth. LOL. You are a damn fool. You were not in love your dick was kick'n you in your stomach. LOL. I'm glad I avoided that chick. She was a pain. The Nipples on Doris are ridiculous!

And Ingrids show was hot and sexy wasn't it.! Damn!

OMG. LOL Ican't believe your tell'n the tranny story. NOOOOOOO! Damn almost got beat up by hookers for call'n her a tranny. LOL. OMG . I am busting up reading this LOL. I can't believe you. LOL. Sami. I hate you! LOL. She wasn't that bad look'n I wish I just left her alone. LOL bwahahaha.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Saturday: Okay, so after I finally recovered from Juliana I met up with the mongering crew at Meia Pataca in the early afternoon. One thing I hadn't mentioned was that the weather thus far had been really crappy! Mostly overcast and light rain with a slight chill (nothing that really required more than a long sleeved shirt, but, looking at the cariocas, you would thing you were in Colorado in December). So, I'm there with Sami and BlkBig BootyLuvr and we meet up with a bunch of other mongers from Memphis and some other places. As soon as I sat down at the "monger" table though, I make eye contact with a very beautiful, very "normal" looking girl. She was brown skinned and really looked like a regular, beautiful looking African American girl that you'd see in any city in America. We locked eyes and she gave the biggest smile and I was in love! Those that know me know that I am a sucker for a pretty face; I can resist the great asses, the tits, the reputations, but something about a beautiful smile and eyes gets me everytime no matter what the rest of the package looks like. I immediately start talking to Sami (or, my conscience, as he seemed to play that role in my selections) and getting his confirmation on how beautiful she was. Then, she started talking to her girlfriend as she was staring and me and smiling even harder. I stared at her smiling as I was talking to Sami and mumbled "Do not smile at me, do not fucking smile at me because you'll end up with a dick in your ass. Please! " 30 seconds later, I was excusing myself from the monger table and headed for her table. I sat directly across from her and introduced myself to both her and her friend, Viviane. This angel of my dreams was named. Ingrid! Yes, since my return I have seen reporting on, this, apparent staple of the mongering scene on Copa, but, hey, I'm a Rio newbie, so, she was new to me. I spoke to her like she was a normal girl (as she of course spoke perfect English). She was very cordial, submissive and open in her conversation. In contrast, she had the most annoying fucking friend I had ever met! This ***** makes the cockblocking fat friend from the clubs in the US seem friendly. Viviane just had this real aggressive tone to her voice and that annoying know it all attitude as if just because she spoke English well, she knew everything about Americans and men in general. Still, I tried to remain polite as still, I thought they might be normal girls. I know, I know, how naive. In my conversation, with Ingrid, she mentioned that she was going to work soon. When I asked where she worked and she responded Lluomo's I felt the shocked look come across my face. My little fantasy had come to an end. At the same time, that dumbass in the back of my head kept saying "maybe YOU can get her for free." Hahaha, I was sooo stupid! So, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom, I took her seat next to Ingrid to get closer to her and a little more intimate. Things were going well, until that ***** Viviane came back and started going off about me taking her seat. I told her to chill out and I'd be up in a second, I was just having some conversation with her friend. She kept bitching and having an attitude, but moved to another seat.

Me and the crew were already planning to hit Lluomo's tonight, so, Ingrid just gave me more of a reason. Now, I have to point out, when Viviane got up to go to the bathroom and when she came back, all eyes were on her. She had a really great ass with a thickness that went all the way down to her ankles, topped off with a great rack, and an okay face, the only downside was her shitty attitude. Oh well! So, I go back to the crew and we shoot the shit some more.

. A couple of hours go by and we've eaten and drank a bit. By now, Ingrid had left, Viviane was still there along with a new girl, Danieli, I think. One of the guys in the crew arranged a driver, GG, to take 8 of us to Lluomo's. Now, we were all going to be able to get there for a total of 10R. Not bad in my opinion. This was GG's offer, not ours. As we were all figuring this out, do you know this ***** Viviane had the nerve to tell GG that he should charge us more because we have so many people and she told us that we should pay him 20R? ! Are you serious *****? ! Look, I'm not a cheapskate. I was on a budget, but still, I believe in being fair to everyone. We had already talked about giving him a good tip, but to have this girl basically try to screw up what we had negotiated, well, that really pissed me off! So I told her, "how are you going to tell someone else how much money I need to pay them? " I told her she needed to stick to selling pussy and let the men take care of business. Needless to say, that pissed her off and she started being all loud about us being cheap and taking advantage of Brazilians and being disrespectful by stealing her chair earlier! Yo, I gave it right back to her though asking her why she was the only girl who had been here for so long and didn't have any guys interested in her. My boy Sami told me not to even waste my time on her; everybody thought we were about to come to blows. Another, older, seasoned Rio monger even came over to try to calm me down. Fuck that, I didn't need to calm down, I was calm; I just needed this chick to stay in her place. I don't go on her job kickin dicks out of her mouth, so I don't expect her to intervene when I'm handling business. About a half hour later, after wrangling all the guys together, we were off!

Lluomo's, as has been reported is located inside of a shopping center (I wouldn't call it a mall though) on the second floor. Closer set up to Monte Carlo than 4x4. Put on my robe and went into the sauna and, to my surprise, there was a full, complimentary buffet out: black beans and rice, prime rib, beef ribs, salad, assorted fruit, and a few other items I couldn't identify. All free! I grubbed down for about 20 minutes before heading into the Boite. I sat down and started downing the Caipirinhas (had about 2 before noticing Ingrid in the corner dancing). There were probably about 4 real hotties in there out of maybe 12-15 girls. It seemed like alot of girls because the place is so small. There weren't many guys in there either. Music got better the longer we were there. I had my eye on one in particular. She had long, curly blonde hair and a mean ass with an ample rack. Unfortunately, by the 4th Caipirinha (those shits are serious), I ended up having some other blonde sit next to me and I started talking to her. She talked back, very seductively and I kind of led her on. Massaging her shoulders and kissing her neck. All the while, I'm watching this other sexy ass blonde walking around and winking at her, undressing her with my eyes on the sly. Finally, I saw her break for the bathroom and decided to make my move. I told the other blondie that I was going to the bathroom and would be back. I left the boite and waited for. Doris to come out of the bathroom. When she came out, all I said was "vamos! " I had already spoken to her and done introductions earlier in the night, so, it wasn't as cold as it seemed. She looked surprised because she had seen me with the other girl, seemingly sold for the night. Man, this Doris was a real doll. She asked me to give her a minute and she returned in a red satin robe which hid a purple bra and panty/garter set, which replaced her red bra and panties from the boite. This outfit along with the hair, the super great attitude and, just overall beauty made her a fantastic lay for the night. You'll all be happy to know that she was also very open to allowing photos!

As the night was still young, me, Sami and Blk BigBootyLuvr decided to switch things up and see how the other half lived. We caught a taxi (who took us for a 'ride') to Club 00 (cero cero). Don't ask me where it was, I have no clue. We went there after first going to our crib to throw on some nice clothes. This was a NICE club! Everyone was dressed to impress. Imagine a club in NYC or Miami or LA and you'll get the picture; it had a nice outdoor area, an inside dance floor and a restaurant. After we ate and walked around a bit, it was clear that this was not a circle that is easily penetrated, especially if one did not speak Porto. Nevertheless, we had a great time, just people watching, reminiscing, cracking jokes and just all around bullshitting like us guys like to do. I think I added 3 more Caipirinhas (including a strawberry one which I don't recommend) to my count at 00. We all decided to check out Terraco Atlantico, but didn't plan to go into Help. Errr, well, THEY didn't plan to go in; I know I have a problem, and I was not ready for rehab tonight! Oddly enough, our night in front of help started out kinda weird. It all started with Sami plugging sublimenal suggestions of trannies into Blk BigBootyLuvr's head. Then, in reference to a female at the table next to us, Sami suggests to him: "Dude, I think that's a man." BBBL in his slightly inebriated, mostly not givinafuck attitude actually got the girl's attention and asked her if she was a man! Why did this dude start with this woman. Yo, she went off about traveling all over the world and only in Brazil, her home land do people ask her this question. She starts crying and shouting and asking people if she looked like a man and talking to Brazilians (women and men) and pointing at us. At that time, we felt it was probably best to get BBBL out of here. We hustled him into a cab like we were the Secret Service and he was the President or some shit; it was actually quite funny! At the same time, some poor joe looked like he might have been drugged by two girls who were trying to hustle him into a cab. I think the Help/Terraco Atlantico staff intervened. They had him sign something, possibly just his bill or maybe a release, then put him in a cab by himself. Had those girls tried to get in with him, I would have intervened. The old guy was really out of it. Dudes, be careful and watch your drinks!

As for me and my deviant ass, I was back on the prowl in Help again! Yo, every fucking night I was there, there was tons of eligible GDPs. And by eligible I mean fuckable; and by fuckable, I mean attractive faces with nice asses and/or tits. Interestingly enough, guess who we saw looking delicious like a damn sirloin steak? Viviane. When I saw her, I looked at Sami and he was like "You're gonna fuck her! You need to fuck the shit out of her for all of that shit earlier." I laughed, but, he was right. However, I could not approach her. As we were talking and trying intently not to show her that we were paying any attention to her. She recognized and began smiling and started talking cordially, and in a more conciliatory, almost apologetic tone. This was getting interesting. Then she started touching me. Nothing sexual, just the hand on the bicep, hand on the chest kind of thing. All the time, I had the shittiest look on my face like, "Are you for real? Do you seriously think after all that shit, I'm gonna give you my money? " So, I asked her the one question that I think any monger in my position would have asked."How much? " She smiled and rather than answer me, she ASKED me to go to the terrace so we could talk. She then proceeded to tell me all about her life and the type of guys she runs into and how she has an attitude as a defense mechanism and how she was sorry about earlier, yada yada ya. Then she said, and I quote: "Listen, I really want you, and, I know you want me, so, let's talk about what we need to do to get past any bad feelings between us." I was like. This ***** is good! It was so thick, I could feel the 'game' oozing out of her mouth as she spoke. It was great. But, you see, I had a little something up my sleeve as well. So, I kept pressing her about her attitude and what guarantee would I have that she wouldn't go apeshit again once she got to my apartment. Then, we got to the key question. How much? Her first offer 300R. I was surprised at her low initial bid, but kept my cool. I thought about it for a second and told her: "I think that's a fair price." and added, "but, I don't know if I'm comfortable agreeing to that amount with you." I told her that I would be comfortable with 200R and if not only did she NOT raise her voice or argue with me, but also made me come 3 times, let me do anal twice and sucked my dick twice for at least 30 minutes each time and let me take at least 3 pictures, I would give her 300R. She responded: "Wow, you are good; I like it! " She thought about it for awhile, struggled, then agreed. I could not believe this was about to happen; this was probably the most sexual tension I've had with any woman and I basically got her to agree to let me ream her till my heart's content. Gentlemen, we must do what we must do! And I did. And I did it well. I brought that thing home and had her screaming, begging, moaning, sucking, fucking, bucking and drained. Oh, I almost forgot, to give you an idea of how much I HAD to ream this girl, when we were arguing earlier, she also said, very loudly I might add: "You probably can't fuck anyway! " So, I had her to scream out the open window while I was drilling her: I can't fuck that's why my ass is getting drilled! I talk to much that's why I have to eat dick. I shit you not, I made her say these things in English, so I know she said it though, she'll probably never admit it. She didn't seem to mind, probably because most people didn't understand what the hell she was saying. I wish I had it all on camera, but alas, no video. Pictures are not the best, but, ehh, you get the point. Hahaha! Viviane. One for the books. Nighty night bitches, Vila Mimosa and my homey Voyager tomorrow! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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Good post.

I second that.

[QUOTE=A158]These are some serious reports my friend...I Wish I had more time in Rio to see it first hand, as I have witnessed two of your reports. I can say the women here are just f**ken awesome. The sad part is I have a hard on every morning just thinking about all the eye candy I saw in my two days in Rio. I need to get back to this place and soon ...

On a side note, I admire your restraint after reading some of the racial comments some of the guys are posting here. Well since I have met you, these guys don't have a clue when it comes to making these comments about you. ......See you soon my mongering friend

Cheers

A158[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Web site costs include hard drive space and bandwidth. Quoting a long post only to add an "attaboy" really doesn't add much value but does cost the operator of the site...[/QUOTE]Yeah shit, I didn't realize my report was gonna be so long! Once the reminiscing starts, the words start pouring out. For those that don't know, if you quote someone and you want to quote a specific portion, you can delete all of the text you don't want to quote and leave what you want in between the two QUOTE words in brackets. It lets you get your point across without quoting all the ramblings of dudes like me with Rain Man syndrome!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Man, this Doris was a real doll. She asked me to give her a minute and she returned in a red satin robe which hid a purple bra and panty/garter set, which replaced her red bra and panties from the boite. This outfit along with the hair, the super great attitude and, just overall beauty made her a fantastic lay for the night. You'll all be happy to know that she was also very open to allowing photos![/QUOTE]

I see that she's permed her hair since I saw her a couple of months ago. I noticed her rack and thought "too good to be true," and so I passed. Since you've been with her, I must confirm the hopefully obvious and ask: are her breasts fake?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]So, I'm there with Sami and BlkBig BootyLuvr and we meet up with a bunch of other mongers from Memphis and some other places.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]This must be the time of camaraderie or competition. I was in Rio for 4 days in late June, hit this whole list (below) of places and only saw 2 foreign mongers. They were hanging out at L'uomo. On the bright side, it meant I had little competition for girls because the places are full of Brasilian guys that are just there to drink beer and cop a feel, and then the GDP's see gringo Puta Playa walking in like a payday. I about got my shirt torn off in the staircase at BA85 due to the scarcity of customers; they were hungry for the Reais. On the bad side, after the third day, I was wanting to find someone to speak English to. It can get boring even when there is an unlimited supply of pussy, if there is one to hear me say, "man, you wouldn't believe that b. Itch! , that was some good shit, she."

So there is a tip, if you want no real competition, visit in the latter part of June. I can't even relate to the stories you guys tell about the backward hat guys and all that in 4 x 4, there were about 80 girls, 3 normal Brasileros and me. Of course this gave me a lot of options. I like the loira Carol with the big bunda, with the tattoo of a fairy on her ankle throwing stars onto her foot. Energizer bunny garota. Recommended!

L'uomo, 4 x 4, Bar 22, BA85, U24, Caesaro's, NS Copa 583, Bel Prazer, Flavia

Sunday: So, after Viviane and I eat breakfast, I kick her ass to the curb and check my phone which Sami had been blowin up all morning. The sun was out! Dude and Blk BigBootyLuvr had been out at the beach all morning and scoping out the local assets! I opened my blinds and sure as shit, the sun was beaming. It was like 1:30, so I needed to get there quick to get some time in before meeting Voyager1 at his hotel to link up for further "activities." Got to the beach after linking up with Sami at Meia Pataca and man, it was packed! The homie even had a beach chair waiting for me. Its good having bros to hang out with. So, we commenced (well, I joined in) on eyeing and commenting on the eye candy. Snapping the occasional picture. You guys should bug the shit out of Blk BigBootyLuvr because he's got all the beach pics! I bugged out to go meet up with Voyager1 at his hotel and we caught a taxi back to the beach spot. I did the intros and it was like all of us were long time friends. You know, its the monger way!

So, we're chillin', mindin' our own business, not bothering anyone when I look up and see this vision of beauty. You guys know I'm weak for the normal looking girls; of all the hot chicks on the beach with bikinis and hot, oiled up bodies, this girl wearing a full length sun dress with designer shades looked up and flashed the biggest smile. She caught my attention. Even more alluring was that she was with another guy. We exchanged glances and smiles and both gave each other a look like we knew each other. But, since she was with a guy, I did the respectful thing and turned away. So, I turn to my conscience (aka Sami), BBBL and Voyager1 (aka my advisor) and we start swapping opinions on her, then, moved on to the next one. After I got to thinking about it, I realized I did not know her at all. The fellas saw her stand up and walk away toward the street and commented on how she was a cutie. Then out of no where, she looks over at me and motions for me to call her. I shrug my shoulders that I don't have her number and she points to some tent and again says to call her. So, right about now, I'm thinking this girl is a few limes short of a Caipirinha. About 5 minutes later, some random European woman walks over and hands me the mystery girl's number. Her name was Viviane (no, not the same one as last night). I'm thinking, wow, this could get interesting.

Fuck her, on to bigger and better things. The sun was eclipsed by the clouds again, and it was getting chilly. So, we decided to get cleaned up and changed and head over to Vila Mimosa. We hit Sami and BBBL's spot first, really nice pad; maybe they'll post the link to it on here. Then, we hit my place, then Voyager's hotel, then jumped on the Metro at Siquera Campos station. Figured we'd eat some meat on a sticks and empanadas at VM for dinner. So, we get there pretty early, like 8pm and things were just starting to get jumping: they turned the music up, more girls started arriving, the cabbies started dropping off people. This was Voyager's show and tell, so, he took us around through all the nooks and crannies and let us know the ins and outs, price structure, etc. 25R gets you 45 minutes I think. The thing is, the place is pretty grimey. All the way around! Now, we walked to VM from the Metro, so, we had to go through "the hood" before we got to VM. This part made me a little nervous, just because it was my first time and I wasn't familiar with the area. After we got through that part, and into VM and I looked around and walked through the area, sat around and observed the people, I was good. I actually considered coming back on my own the next night (but didn't). We sat around and ate and drank for a couple of hours and then decided to go on the hunt. Blk BigBootyLuvr was the first to go down. He fell for an older girl with gorgeous tits hanging out of a mesh top as she sat in an elevated bar. We pretty much waited for him right outside of the bar. After him, Sami spotted an Asian looking girl with a hot ass body and snatched her up as she was walking into a bar. We walked around a bit as we waited on Sami. I was pretty resigned that I wouldn't find anything that just grabbed me even though I saw some great looking girls hanging out. I guess I just figured that they would be waaay too aggressive and ghetto and I didn't want to have a bad experience. That and I was a little apprehensive about what the "rooms" would look like for doing the deed! Well, as we were waiting for Sami, two slim hotties with nice, plump asses walked by and started browsing one of the vendors. I looked at them, and one in particular, then looked at Voyager and he was like "she got you, now go get her". I walked up behind her and asked her if she wanted to go with me. She looked me up and down and gave the biggest smile, grabbed my arm and said let's go! So, I represented! Her name was Monica and, turns out the other girl was her sister! I asked for her number but she said she didn't have a cell. In retrospect, I should have taken her and, maybe her sister for the night; probably could've gotten each for 150R. Oh well, maybe next time!

After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.

Well, I decided to call Viviane, the one from the beach and maybe save myself a trip to Help. Unfortunately for you, I am tired and my S. O. Is bitching, so I'll have to continue that part later. For now, enjoy the pics of Monica from VM!

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]I see that she's permed her hair since I saw her a couple of months ago. I noticed her rack and thought "too good to be true," and so I passed. Since you've been with her, I must ask: are her breasts real?[/QUOTE]They felt great, but they are not real! She was a real sweetie though, and that was without trying to get to know her and chatting her up. Go for it! If nothing else, she's a cutie with a great ass.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Josechung][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url][/QUOTE]

Josechung, what did you think of the video? Muito engraçado!

[QUOTE=Rastaman]The hot Brasileiras are poor for the most part, and cannot get a visa to travel to the US...whereby the affluent Brasileiras which mostly aren't so stunning can get a visa to travel to the US. Many just stay, and get married in the US.[/QUOTE]
True. The same goes for Europe.

There is also another reason for the lower standard of brazilian women in Europe. The majority of the these women were brought here by gringo boyfriends. Propably 95% of these women are ex-putas. By some mysterious reason these gringos have chosen women that are mostly 3s to 6s.

Mongers-
I have to strongly disagree with the poster below who claims that most of the hot Brasileiras are poor. The hottest Brasileiras are from the South of Brasil, namely Santa Catarina, Parana and Rio Grande de Sul. These are the most affluent areas of the country. There are also loads of hot women from Goias and Minas Gerais, and these are also affluent areas. Although there are hot women in Rio de Janeiro, most of the hot girls working and studying in Rio are from other areas of Brasil.

I guess this may also have to do with personal preference; if you prefer very dark skinned girls then it is true the the vast majority of good looking dark skinned girls in Brasil are poor.
Suerte,
Rock Harders

[QUOTE=Sperto]...Propably 95% of these women are ex-putas. By some mysterious reason these gringos have chosen women that are mostly 3s to 6s.[/QUOTE]

Here, where I live in center of europe, in the last couple of years we got a big increase of brazilian pro and they are just average too, but what was a rarity, now is easy to find.

I think these gringos that choose from '3 till '6 is because they thought to have higher chances the marriage or relationship could work and last successfull all life time LOL

p.s. in south of brazil, it is true, brazilians look almost like russian devuski, blond hair and blue or green eyes, but with attitude of girls of west europe too and that's not so good....IMHO:

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little! [/QUOTE][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.[/QUOTE]Rodeo,

Again, I don't see the correlation between race and what guys agree to pay GDPs. I think what a man agrees to pay a GDP is an individual negotiation. As someone here noted so perfectly - to the ladies the only color that truly matters is the color green. I have enjoyed reading your posts for the most part. I found them informative and entertaining (you have an engaging writing style and at times I felt like I was riding shotgun on your adventures). I also appreciate you taking the time to write them (by the way have you ever read the best selling book "I Hope They Sell Beer in Hell."?) But in several of your reports you seem to take the slant that white guys generally overpay GDPs and are bad lovers. I understand that you qualify these comments with "this is what all the GDPs" tell you or what one anonymous "white monger" at Balcony Bar tells you. I think we already established that you should discount what a GDP tells you as they are always in sales mode and will slant their conversation to their client. Same as how I discount it when a GDP tells me they like some of my features as I am always mindful that they will say whatever it takes to close the deal. And then your buddies chime in and tell you to ignore the racist comments that are coming YOUR way??? Sad that we even need to go there on this forum. I can tell you that I never felt I overpaid for my experiences in Rio, and I've never been kicked out of bed by a GDP for lack of performance. And guess what - I'm not black. And from what I read here many others certainly seem to know how to negotiate and then perform in bed - and I am certain they are not all black guys or possess "the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca."

I am sure you are still living the dream, feeling your oats and on a pussy high - but for a guy who seems so independent, confident, out going and fun-loving - I am not sure why you need to seek out and accept the opinions of others that have their own agendas and report them here. IMO, reporting their opinions on the matter of race here adds nothing and actually detracts from your otherwise fun reports. I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.

But, thanks again for taking the time to write your reports. It does sound like you enjoyed yourself. Enjoy yourself on that budget while you can. From where I sit, things are definately changing for Brazil, and even faster for Rio. Olympics are looking good. Property values going up. Investments coming in. Major economic indexes looking good. Rio was just voted the friendliest city in the world.

You have just become my personal hero. Been a while since I laughed that hard. Thanks for the fantastic report!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]... Oh, I almost forgot, to give you an idea of how much I HAD to ream this girl, when we were arguing earlier, she also said, very loudly I might add: "You probably can't fuck anyway! " So, I had her to scream out the open window while I was drilling her: I can't fuck that's why my ass is getting drilled! I talk to much that's why I have to eat dick. I shit you not, I made her say these things in English, so I know she said it though, she'll probably never admit it. She didn't seem to mind, probably because most people didn't understand what the hell she was saying. I wish I had it all on camera, but alas, no video. Pictures are not the best, but, ehh, you get the point. Hahaha! Viviane. One for the books. Nighty night bitches, Vila Mimosa and my homey Voyager tomorrow! I love Rio!

Yippie Kiyay,

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Hughdad][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Ahh yes, Friday, or as they say in Rio: sexta-feira! It was another late start for me, finally giving the boot to whatever ***** I took from Help last night. For those that are curious, yes, the GDPs are starting their asking prices at 500-600R. It doesn't seem like most of them really expect to get that much, or, at least, they know WHO to expect that much from. Over the past few days, I've talked to many-a-garota from Help/Meia Pataca/etcetera who broke down their logic: 1- They don't like white men as lovers, whether Brazilian, American, Canadian or European, that was the honest breakdown I got from at least 5 girls; what was odd about this is that most of the women that said this were white-skinned. They claim to prefer 'black' men because black men give them good, long sex and orgasms more often than not. Of course, one could argue that these girls were playing to me because I am a black man, but I don't think so; it seemed genuine when they said it and they seemed to delight in the idea of taking large sums of money for little work with their white sex partners. I'm not judging anyone, just putting out there what these women are saying behind our (collective) backs. Stop overpaying; none of them are worth it and you're only hurting yourself, just sac up and resist a little! [QUOTE][QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.[QUOTE]Rodeo,

Again, I don't see the correlation between race and what guys agree to pay GDPs. I think what a man agrees to pay a GDP is an individual negotiation. As someone here noted so perfectly - to the ladies the only color that truly matters is the color green. I have enjoyed reading your posts for the most part. I found them informative and entertaining (you have an engaging writing style and at times I felt like I was riding shotgun on your adventures). I also appreciate you taking the time to write them (by the way have you ever read the best selling book "I Hope They Sell Beer in Hell."?) But in several of your reports you seem to take the slant that white guys generally overpay GDPs and are bad lovers. I understand that you qualify these comments with "this is what all the GDPs" tell you or what one anonymous "white monger" at Balcony Bar tells you. I think we already established that you should discount what a GDP tells you as they are always in sales mode and will slant their conversation to their client. Same as how I discount it when a GDP tells me they like some of my features as I am always mindful that they will say whatever it takes to close the deal. And then your buddies chime in and tell you to ignore the racist comments that are coming YOUR way??? Sad that we even need to go there on this forum. I can tell you that I never felt I overpaid for my experiences in Rio, and I've never been kicked out of bed by a GDP for lack of performance. And guess what - I'm not black. And from what I read here many others certainly seem to know how to negotiate and then perform in bed - and I am certain they are not all black guys or possess "the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca."

I am sure you are still living the dream, feeling your oats and on a pussy high - but for a guy who seems so independent, confident, out going and fun-loving - I am not sure why you need to seek out and accept the opinions of others that have their own agendas and report them here. IMO, reporting their opinions on the matter of race here adds nothing and actually detracts from your otherwise fun reports. I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.

But, thanks again for taking the time to write your reports. It does sound like you enjoyed yourself. Enjoy yourself on that budget while you can. From where I sit, things are definately changing for Brazil, and even faster for Rio. Olympics are looking good. Property values going up. Investments coming in. Major economic indexes looking good. Rio was just voted the friendliest city in the world.[/QUOTE]

Dudes, sorry about band width and all that shit, but this man made a SPECTACULR post, This racist shit affects everyones thinking, all we have to do is discard it. We are all the same black white yellow. Hughdad you are a legend!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Hughdad] I guess we can only conclude that the fact that you choose to include such viewpoints here again and again reveals your personal feelings.[/QUOTE]Hey man, thanks for your constructive comments. No, your quote above is, fortunately not accurate. I tried to caveat that these were not my personal feelings, but, just that it is what is being said or relayed to me. Whether it is true or not, I'm just passing on the going gossip. If it were my opinion, you might see something like: "I don't understand why white/European guys overpay so much; they're stupid for doing so and shows x, y, z." The closest I may have come to that is my "rules for approaching a Help girl" when I mention the general hazards of overpaying. Thinking back on it (I'm not actually going back to the report, but), maybe I could have worded some things differently.

To all who have commented to this end on my observations and relaying of information, let me be clear: I don't care who overpays for whatever reason (hell, I'm sure to some, I even overpaid--which I'm pretty sure of myself. The right price comes with experience in country and with women in general), I don't care how anyone is in bed--I only care about what my personal experience is. I don't want to discourage anyone from visiting Rio for fear their skin color might give them a bad experience, but, I do want to offer. To all mongers. Information on perceptions that may be able to arm them for their trip, so they can be prepared for what is going to be thrown at them (I. E. Potentially higher prices or expectations of quick service by the GDPs). I have friends from every shade of the rainbow and have all of my life. I have also mongered side by side with mongers from all over the world in Brazil, Colombia, DomRep, Panama, Germany and Amsterdam--its not about race. I have personally talked to guys (white and European) that have approached a girl and she flat out told them that she prefers men with darker skin for whatever reason. Also, I have personally been told by women and mongers (the guys, who, interestingly enough used this to brag that they could get any girl) that they will try to go with white/European men first because they can get more money. These are facts (as presented to me, characteristic of some chicas and GDPs), not my opinion.

Now, this part is my opinion. My observations are NOT out of the realm of reality. For those that know the dynamics of the Americas, to include colonization, slavery and the relatively recent integration/mixing of the races, it all makes sense. In the Americas (South and Central, Caribbean and North), over time, it has generally been those with white skin that are the more well-to-do financially, due in part to historic limitations put on the advancement of people of color during and since slavery (not being allowed to read, go to school, hold a job with good wages, allowed to advance in society, etc). Then, of course, there are institutional biases and long-standing family-taught descrimination that is prevalent in some societies (Colombian, Cuban, Dominican and Brazilian to name a few that I have had personal experiences with). In a "thing" I had going on with a Colombian girl here in the US, she told me how she had to explain to her mother that I wasn't "too" black. A fair skinned Dominicana whom I had been with on 4 separate occasions for the same price, once told me that she would have to postpone our session because she was going to be with an Italian man who was going to pay twice the going price for the same amount of time. Of course, any American knows the adage "Once you go black, you never go back, " which was popularized by the curiousity of white women since reconstruction and the later end of segregation when interracial relationships began to be more common.

No one can argue that the rumors/stereotypes do exist of the virility and potency of those with African ancestry. These are even bought into by the very existence, at high levels, of mongers who travel to places where interbreeding with those of African ancestry has created those magnificent asses and sensuality of the women that we love so much (hint: this didn't come from the Spanish).

Hughdad, I respect your comments and thank you again for the constructive dialogue. For anyone else who has commented constructively, thanks to you as well. However, anyone wishing to label me some sort of racist or being gullible, I get your point. Now, let it go. Let the thread get back to its purpose and if you have further comments, just PM me. That way, I can read it, you get your point across to me and others don't have to be bothered with the back and forth. I also won't have to waste time responding to bullshit and can get on with finishing my trip report for other dudes like me who like to fuck rather than engage in philosophical bullshit.

Keep your pimp hand STRONG!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Beach Star]We are all the same black white yellow. Hughdad you are a legend!!!!!!![/QUOTE]

Hey Beach Star

On that note bro, if we keep f.u.c.k.i.n.g each other like we do, eventually we will all be the same color :-)

Cheers

A158

I read the posts about how GDP's prefer black men, bla bla bla. Well this is my 10th trip in 3 1/2 years and I can tell you, when the subject came up, I was told the exact opposit. They tell me they don't like black men, for various reasons. So I can only conclude they stroke the ego of whatever client they are with. When they are with a black man they say they don't like white men, when they are with a white man they say they don't like black men. Remember they are working, we are playing. Bottom line is they tell us what we want to hear, the only danger here is if we believe this shit.

No Stress!

LL

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca.[/QUOTE]
* Rodeo I enjoy your reports, but why the need for discussing the colours of the mongers? Who cares?

* My opinion of MP and Balcony:
- MP: Low-standard, overweighted and spoiled girls with no chance of finding a good bargain.
- Balcony: Also low-standard. Lower prices, calmer and a bigger chance of finding something worthy to pay for.
I dislike both places, but I noticed that many long-timers prefers Balcony.

* The MP-issue: MP used to be very good (hundreds years ago...). Then the standard went bottom-low and the prices sky-high. Why? Partly because of the MP-mongers who keeps pushing the prices up, like "this is our daytime-Help".

* Why do many of the "older" mongers avoid MP nowadays:
1. Because of the low-standard of the GPs.
2. The high prices of the GPs.
3. Because of the mongers that attend MP. The clientele now is mostly a bunch of loudspeaking mongers that loves to hear their own voices and bringing their own music to MP (in their ghetto blasters). At least during high-season the majority of these mongers are black americans.

* Me, being white european coming from a country with 33% immigrants, couldn't care less of the colour of the mongers at MP. What interest me is the women. What disturbs me is when gringos can't keep the volume down instead of acting as a Brazil-vacation is one big f**king music-video.
No need for giving me a racial shitstorm because of my little statement. I've met a lot of nice educated and polite black guys at MP. The colour of your monger-skin means absolutely nothing to me. What interest me is the colour of the bunda. Anything between snow-white and coal-black serves me fine (with a preference of light brown :D)

* I know that many of our best forum posters here are coloured. They have no need to comparing races when reporting, neither have I. I can deal with a post from a white redneck writing racist posts (Mr Brazilm*n), I just scroll by as he got nothing to add to the forum. With you, Rodeo, it's different. You write entertaining posts, and you have no need for adding discussions about skin colours.

I could care less about the race of anyone here. I have enjoyed my of the entertaining posts here and have garnered some terrific information along the way. I have said repeatedly that this site is like a Masters in Mongering if used properly (using the search and diving back through the archives instead of just asking the same questions over and over.) I have gotten some great advice in PM as well. Thanks to all.

While I do not know anyone here personally and never met anyone, I believe there are some great intelligent guys here with terrific senses of humor and some great sarcastic skills. And I would be more than happy to have a beer with anyone here when in our favorite city. I have to say that Sperto and Rodeo both have recently given us some great info. And Sperto's Centro casa maps are priceless. I really enjoy what he has to say and how he says it. And Rodeo - your reports were entertaining and a good read. As I said you really have an entertaining writing style. I just have no interest in reading opinions of how the races are perceived in Rio by garotas or whomever. I too love ladies of all colors and nationalities, with mulatas being my weak spot.

I really wanted to say thanks to all the members here who take the time to share their vast knowledge of all things Rio.

Sperto,

Hey, thanks for the post. I wish this would just die. I was merely trying to make some of the same points that you made:

[QUOTE=Sperto]Why do many of the "older" mongers avoid MP nowadays:

3. Because of the mongers that attend MP. The clientele now is mostly a bunch of loudspeaking mongers that loves to hear their own voices and bringing their own music to MP (in their ghetto blasters). At least during high-season the majority of these mongers are black americans.

* Me, being white european coming from a country with 33% immigrants, couldn't care less of the colour of the mongers at MP. What disturbs me is when gringos can't keep the volume down instead of acting as a Brazil-vacation is one big f**king music-video.[/QUOTE]I actually have a different opinion of the quality of girls at MP. While I did see my share of fat, ugly ones, who themselves didn't even seem to try to make a sale. Off the top of my head, I can count at least 10 hotties at MP (3 of which I banged) that had every guy drooling. And the prices, with some good negotiating always seemed fair. No doubt you would normally get some flack for your comments about the ghetto blasters (maybe not this time because of its context referring to another's post), but, I agree. I don't have a problem with that mind you, but, it is your honest observation, which is all I was trying to offer as well.

I hope to run into you on a trip one day; maybe we can share a pitcher or something! I think we should all just learn to agree to disagree and not judge each other based on what are merely observations.

Rodeo

Rodeo9112,

Good report I been hearing **some guys** crying about the so called "Ghetto Blasters" code word wink wink? At Mia P. For decades but never once heard or seen any of the girls complain about it? Wonder why? I GUESS because they busy dancing to it LOL

As far as "Now mostly the clientele going to Mia P are so called Loudspeaking mongers"? Haven't notice hell in Rio who isn't loud speaking? Just sound like a another code phase to me.

Rodeo9112, IF some can use these code words like:

A. Ghetto Blasters

B. Loud speaking mongers

C. Fucking music video

You can speak on race at least you not using code words to make a point of what you seen or heard.

Keep up the good work.

Kid Cisco

Rodeo9112,

Damn. Great report!! I run my game in SP but damned if your report doesn't make me want to head to RJ for a weekend!

Props to you and your crew for what sounded like a hell of a time!

Well, speaking as one of the "coloured" mongers on this board! I wish the race baiting BS would stop.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Hey man, thanks for your constructive comments. No, your quote above is, fortunately not accurate. I tried to caveat that these were not my personal feelings, but, just that it is what is being said or relayed to me. Whether it is true or not, I'm just passing on the going gossip. If it were my opinion, you might see something like: "I don't understand why white/European guys overpay so much; they're stupid for doing so and shows x, y, z." The closest I may have come to that is my "rules for approaching a Help girl" when I mention the general hazards of overpaying. Thinking back on it (I'm not actually going back to the report, but), maybe I could have worded some things differently.

To all who have commented to this end on my observations and relaying of information, let me be clear: I don't care who overpays for whatever reason (hell, I'm sure to some, I even overpaid--which I'm pretty sure of myself. The right price comes with experience in country and with women in general), I don't care how anyone is in bed--I only care about what my personal experience is. I don't want to discourage anyone from visiting Rio for fear their skin color might give them a bad experience, but, I do want to offer. To all mongers. Information on perceptions that may be able to arm them for their trip, so they can be prepared for what is going to be thrown at them (I. E. Potentially higher prices or expectations of quick service by the GDPs). I have friends from every shade of the rainbow and have all of my life. I have also mongered side by side with mongers from all over the world in Brazil, Colombia, DomRep, Panama, Germany and Amsterdam--its not about race. I have personally talked to guys (white and European) that have approached a girl and she flat out told them that she prefers men with darker skin for whatever reason. Also, I have personally been told by women and mongers (the guys, who, interestingly enough used this to brag that they could get any girl) that they will try to go with white/European men first because they can get more money. These are facts (as presented to me, characteristic of some chicas and GDPs), not my opinion.

Now, this part is my opinion. My observations are NOT out of the realm of reality. For those that know the dynamics of the Americas, to include colonization, slavery and the relatively recent integration/mixing of the races, it all makes sense. In the Americas (South and Central, Caribbean and North), over time, it has generally been those with white skin that are the more well-to-do financially, due in part to historic limitations put on the advancement of people of color during and since slavery (not being allowed to read, go to school, hold a job with good wages, allowed to advance in society, etc). Then, of course, there are institutional biases and long-standing family-taught descrimination that is prevalent in some societies (Colombian, Cuban, Dominican and Brazilian to name a few that I have had personal experiences with). In a "thing" I had going on with a Colombian girl here in the US, she told me how she had to explain to her mother that I wasn't "too" black. A fair skinned Dominicana whom I had been with on 4 separate occasions for the same price, once told me that she would have to postpone our session because she was going to be with an Italian man who was going to pay twice the going price for the same amount of time. Of course, any American knows the adage "Once you go black, you never go back, " which was popularized by the curiousity of white women since reconstruction and the later end of segregation when interracial relationships began to be more common.

No one can argue that the rumors/stereotypes do exist of the virility and potency of those with African ancestry. These are even bought into by the very existence, at high levels, of mongers who travel to places where interbreeding with those of African ancestry has created those magnificent asses and sensuality of the women that we love so much (hint: this didn't come from the Spanish).

Hughdad, I respect your comments and thank you again for the constructive dialogue. For anyone else who has commented constructively, thanks to you as well. However, anyone wishing to label me some sort of racist or being gullible, I get your point. Now, let it go. Let the thread get back to its purpose and if you have further comments, just PM me. That way, I can read it, you get your point across to me and others don't have to be bothered with the back and forth. I also won't have to waste time responding to bullshit and can get on with finishing my trip report for other dudes like me who like to fuck rather than engage in philosophical bullshit.

Keep your pimp hand STRONG!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,

Wanna know something.? The price you pay the GDP does not depend on your skin colour nor where you come from. And I totally agree with the ones saying that a GDP will tell you all the sweet words you want too, just to get the deal. There is one way you can actually influence on the price and that is to learn portuguese in such away that you can have a conversation. It's amaizing how sweet talk in their own language makes them soft. Regarding the preformance in the sack, if the GDP is with a black guy, God bless you, then you are the greatest. And the contrario if you are white, yellow or any other colour. The main thing guys. If you have a great experince in bed. And the GDP as well. Who the hell cares about what the rest of the world does and thinks. Think the focus is totally wrong if all you can talk about with a GDP is your performance compared to other mongers. I mean keep on f****** the GDP's and have fun! Enjoy Rio.

Chico

[QUOTE=Sperto]* Rodeo I enjoy your reports[/QUOTE]
I personally can't believe the guy is a Rio newbie. He has done more in six days than people who I know have done there in six years of mongering.
[QUOTE=Sperto]* Why do many of the "older" mongers avoid MP nowadays:
1. Because of the low-standard of the GPs.
2. The high prices of the GPs.
3. Because of the mongers that attend MP.[/QUOTE]
Number 1 check. They are just as ghetto and sloppy as can be these days. Being a gdp at MP used to mean something!
Number 2 check. I remember when I would get 2 gdp for 100 reais special at MP with no time restraints. Now one girl of lower quality will want at least 200 reais for probably an hour or so.
Number 3 I could care less about. That won't stop the show.
But number 4, "Because of the high prices of the food and drinks" should be added. Before, one could dine like a king at MP for the low-low. But now, as I previously reported, one caipirinha will take you for 12 reais. That is reee-fucking-diculous.

[QUOTE=Bravo]Well, speaking as one of the "coloured" mongers on this board! I wish the race baiting BS would stop.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you 100%. There's just no reason or place for it here. I am going to add the following though. Typically, when it comes to the "baiting", you'll usually find one of the white mongers doing that. Somebody always has to throw in some gratuitous comment about how they are "preferred" because they're white, or they got "special treatment" or a better price because they're white. Or sometimes, the comment is just outright racist.

Now, when that happens, I don't see any white guys coming out of the woodwork saying that it's wrong and has no place here. Most just sit back on their hands and do and say nothing. If it's wrong, then it's wrong, and our objections to it must always be strenuous, whether the words in question are coming from the black, the white, the red, the yellow, or the brown. Let's get back to the reports guys. And let's stand up against any race baiting that raises its ugly head from any quarter!

I think there's two issues:
1) Do girls prefer certain types of men?
Sure they do. But apart from the rich-not-poor, nice-not-rude, gentle-and-kind-versus-treats-me-like-a-dump categories, individual girls will have individual likes and dislikes. Young or old. Black, White, Asian. Muscular, not.

It might do ego good to say, from my experience, and it might be true, but it means squat. Women are women and have different prefs.

2) Do mongers prefer certain types of other men hanging around the pick-up places? Sure they do. Europeans tend to speak quietly and Americans tend to speak loudly. Not always true, but common enough to be recognised as a cultural characteristic. Europeans live in small countries, I wonder if that has anything to do with it(?) :rolleyes:. On a level playing field, the latter might reasonably winge that loudness is intrusive to those that don't like it, but not the other way round. As a subset of Americans, black Americans enjoy talking loudly more often. They often have bigger physiques, and a big voice goes with a cracking good body.

None of these things are racist, or even objectionable - except to people who find them objectionable or use the information to be offensive to a sub-group ( at which point it becomes racist, fattist, classist, etc)

I used to write highly descriptive reports, mini-articles, to create as best I could a feeling of being in a certain place. After a furore and a lot of attacks because I had used the phrase 'a loud black man' I decided not to bother with those long posts any more and took a back seat. I'm not at all racist, but realise some people are very sensitive about such issues. There was an upset on the UK forum recently when an Indian called another Indian a racist cos he thought he was being discriminated against. My suggestion is, if you personally find a post offensive, rather than discussing it (which takes up a lot of space and detracts from the subject), just report it. Let Jackson make up his mind on it and accept his decision, one way or the other. He may even comment from time to time - it's his Board. Otherwise the same old stuff gets recycled and the only option will be full moderation to keep it down - which it seems people don't really want!

[QUOTE=Thick Cane]I agree with you 100%. There's just no reason or place for it here. I am going to add the following though. Typically, when it comes to the "baiting", you'll usually find one of the white mongers doing that. Somebody always has to throw in some gratuitous comment about how they are "preferred" because they're white, or they got "special treatment" or a better price because they're white. Or sometimes, the comment is just outright racist.

Now, when that happens, I don't see any white guys coming out of the woodwork saying that it's wrong and has no place here. Most just sit back on their hands and do and say nothing. If it's wrong, then it's wrong, and our objections to it must always be strenuous, whether the words in question are coming from the black, the white, the red, the yellow, or the brown. Let's get back to the reports guys. And let's stand up against any race baiting that raises its ugly head from any quarter![/QUOTE]


I agree totally!!!

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think there's two issues:
1) Do girls prefer certain types of men?
Sure they do. But apart from the rich-not-poor, nice-not-rude, gentle-and-kind-versus-treats-me-like-a-dump categories, individual girls will have individual likes and dislikes. Young or old. Black, White, Asian. Muscular, not.

It might do ego good to say, from my experience, and it might be true, but it means squat. Women are women and have different prefs.

2) Do mongers prefer certain types of other men hanging around the pick-up places? Sure they do. Europeans tend to speak quietly and Americans tend to speak loudly. Not always true, but common enough to be recognised as a cultural characteristic. Europeans live in small countries, I wonder if that has anything to do with it(?) :rolleyes:. On a level playing field, the latter might reasonably winge that loudness is intrusive to those that don't like it, but not the other way round. As a subset of Americans, black Americans enjoy talking loudly more often. They often have bigger physiques, and a big voice goes with a cracking good body.

None of these things are racist, or even objectionable - except to people who find them objectionable or use the information to be offensive to a sub-group ( at which point it becomes racist, fattist, classist, etc)

I used to write highly descriptive reports, mini-articles, to create as best I could a feeling of being in a certain place. After a furore and a lot of attacks because I had used the phrase 'a loud black man' I decided not to bother with those long posts any more and took a back seat. I'm not at all racist, but realise some people are very sensitive about such issues. There was an upset on the UK forum recently when an Indian called another Indian a racist cos he thought he was being discriminated against. My suggestion is, if you personally find a post offensive, rather than discussing it (which takes up a lot of space and detracts from the subject), just report it. Let Jackson make up his mind on it and accept his decision, one way or the other. He may even comment from time to time - it's his Board. Otherwise the same old stuff gets recycled and the only option will be full moderation to keep it down - which it seems people don't really want![/QUOTE]

I agree with most of what you said, but I' like to offer a couple of thoughts on our perceptions of others.

1. I have read so many times "Americans are loud", then Americans write it's not so. I remember reading about a study that showed that people perceive that others speaking in a foreign language or accent speak loudly -- the "loud foreigner syndrome". I think I have heard just about every race and culture being loud and behaving badly.

2. My experience is that when people drink, just about everyone gets loud. I ran into a group of Italians the other night in Rio and they could not have been characterized as soft spoken. I ran into a group of Scottish futbol fans in Norway and OMG. Germans on holiday in the Netherlands, Chinese in the US, Russians in Dubai, Saudis in KL, and on and on. All playing the loud foreigner.

Interestingly, people also tend to say people from other countries have big noses -- French, Italians, Spanish, Arabs, Jews ... and OMG, the size of noses of the Dutch!!! Fortunately, Asians excape this, but, of course, their noses are too small. And Africans noses are too flat, but they make up for it elsewhere. And of course the Chinese don't have any noses to speak of, or dicks for that matter, but, of course they are smarter than the rest of us.

Now that I have put the entire world in order, my only point is we all have our perceptions and biases. And we all get loud and obnoxious when we drink. And WE DRINK!

Generally speaking, tourists are perceived to be loud and to behave badly. And it is probably true if they are drinking. I just try to remember this when I am the "fish out of water" and try to tone it down. Not only is it the polite thing to do, it is safer as well.

Monger on.

Congrats Rio De Janeiro is Number 1 happiest city in the world due to a survey.

Wel, being a naturalized American, I will say that Americans just speak louder than many europeans, and it has nothing to do with tourism. I think, Americans do in general have bigger voice. I'm not an expert in any way, but it's gotta to do something with articulation, not language. I think, British speak much quieter.

I agree with Slimholedrill (great handle, btw). What does have something to do with tourism, is that we are here to have fun. So after a few drinks folks lose their inhibition, so we get even louder. I don't see it as a problem, as long as people don't become rude and obnoxious. Then it may become a problem and often will.

I will say this about Russian tourists (coming from Russia, so no offence to anyone). Russians are very different before and after the drinking. Before - they are quite, inhibited and very aware of their environment, even kind of shy because of their lanquage limitations. After a few - the world is my oyster, fuck all. LOL.

Still, with everything said above, Americans tourists are certainly not the loudest bunch. Anyone who says that, never heard Germans. Now THEY are really loud. Again, no offence. I like everyone.

Peace.

Rodeo don't believe the hype bro. Take it from a blackman that has been going to Rio for years, while there might be a small percentage that do fall under that category, the vast majority do not. The ones you talked to were either the ones that were blowing smoke like they all mostly do and/or they were probably that very small percentage that actually feel that way. But it's definitely not representative of the whole Rio scene or even the Copa triangle.Trust me there are garotas who even in Help aren't down at all. Bottom line is that this is all a fantasy just like that old TV show, they will lead you to believe whatever it is they think you wanna believe. Here are a few:you have biggie dicky, saudades pra voce, te amo, I wait for you til you come backy,I no fuck for long timee, eu gozei muito, you fuck me good, gostoso, I no like Brazilian mens, first time I do_____ with cliente, I love _____ men, nao gosto de _____ men, etc. If I had a dollar for everytime I heard these I would be a multi millionaire, LOL.

Good one KC and TC on the code words, it doesn't take much to get some to express how they really feel (second time in a 2-3 week period). Where the hell did the loud mouth, rap video wannbe and ghetto blaster stuff come from, LOL.

Anyways good report glad you had a great time.

[b]intro[/b]
this is my 7th trip to rio and i'm here for just about 2 weeks. i will try to report my daily mongering activities, albeit they're pretty one-dimensional. i'm not a help guy, nor a vm, guy. i occasionally dabble in the casas like duda massagems, but i just love the termas and that's my thing. so these upcoming reports may not be as entertaining as rodeo's, but they should be informative...

[b]termas cancun/whiskeria manhattan[/b]
after taking a nap and leaving the apartment at 6pm, i decided on trying a different place for my opener - 4x4 is usually the terma of choice if it's a weekday, and luomo if it's a weekend. i hopped on the metro to centro uruguiana stop and walked down buenos aires past 4x4, a few blocks later i end up on rua do carmo 44/64 where termas cancun is. i wanted to try the whiskeria as i heard some pretty good things about it. so i was wearing shorts and flip-flops and they didn't want to let me into the whiskeria, which is right next door and is called "whiskeria manhattan". so i took a peek into the terma at termas cancun - only like 10 girls in the boite at 6:45p! i then walk next door again and told them it was my first time at the whiskeria so they decided to let me in. the set up here is very tranquil - basically a rectangle room with chairs and tables lined up on each side. lots of locals in business suits, so i was definitely underdressed! there were about 30 girls and maybe 15 guys. seemed like there were 2 or 3 girls each sitting at a guy's table. i saw about 3 or 4 that i would session with, but they were busy so i decided to buy one drink. chatted with a couple of girls, but nothing of interest. so i got up and paid the bill - $r20 cover + r$5 for my drink, so damage was r$25.

[b]4x4[/b]
i always had this as plan b if cancun didn't work out. so i walked over to 4x4 and got into the robe. it was close to 8p by now, and damn that boite was packed with dudes! wall-to-wall! i would say the ratio was close to 1-to-1.

i ended up chatting with some girl named milena. curly blondish hair girl. i've talked to her before on a few trips. she always talked a good game in her broken english, ie, "i want you to cum in my mouth. i want your milk. i want you fuck my ass, yada yada". so out of morbid curiosity, i wanted to give this girl a spin. in the boite, she was pretty passionate - lots of kissing, groping. we eventually went to the cabine, which i chose the 1-hour option.

so she gives me a bbbj/hj and when i reached the brink, she just puts her right cheek against my willy, so no swallowing, nothing - just a literal side-facial. ha. round 1 was a total waste. she also totally lacked any energy in the cabine, so i mentally checked out of the session. she tried to revive me for round 2, but i already made up my mind that i wasn't even going to fuck her. i was just not feeling it, and i didn't care. i rather save my bullet in the chamber for another encounter.

so i leave the cabine and go back to the boite just to see what's going on. while there, the tall and gorgeous adriana waves me over. i chat for a bit, kind of perplexed as to why she is even giving me the time of day. i've seen her in the boite on so many trips, and she's always been ice cold. she is the tall one that has that short little friend anna belle - who was a total dud in bed. i've heard good and bad things about adriana, so i don't know if she is a future do or don't. most likely don't.

after leaving the boite, i paid my bill and the damage was r$250. inflation yet again. the one-hour cabine is now r$210 (was r$200 a few months ago) and entry is still r$40.

Get over it. I haven't seen one particular race that's truly preferred over the other in Brazil. The gals will tell you anything if they think it will make you like them more and have a session with them (ie., give them money). I've had garotas tell me that they didn't like Asian men and that they have small dicks but it has never stopped an Asian guy from having the time of their life in Brazil. Hell, the Asian guys I've met all had big smiles on their faces just like everyone else.

I've had garotas tell me that they love bald men. Since I'm bald I ask them why and I always get some line about how bald men are sexy and good in bed. Yeh right! I know it's all bullshit but who cares. You have to take anything you are told with a grain of salt.

When I'm in Europa I have no problem hooking up with Caucasian ladies nor dames of other nationalities (granted that many of them are working girls). Does this mean that European women prefer black guys? Of course not. They like the dinheiro!

Doesn't matter what color or nationality you are; if you are decent looking guy with money, a nice disposition, good hygiene, and treat the ladies well - you can always get plenty of buceta in Brazil. It's not that way in all countries, but in Brazil (and especially Rio) it is.

So if you want to feel special and preferred then more power to you. Live the fantasy. Just remember that I'm better than all of you bastards.

"O tempora, O mores" - DSK

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Don't ask me which electronic mail she checks most often, I don't know; same with the cell phone numbers. Hopefully, this contact info will make some guy's day or night. Call it a trump card! She speaks perfect English, so, feel free to call even if you're a newbie! Just make sure you eat your Wheaties with Red Bull and sprinkled with Viagra!

Rodeo

PS: She only likes black guys with big dicks or white guys with money! Hahahaha!!! Just kidding guys.

[QUOTE=Chicobarca]

And I totally agree with the ones saying that a GDP will tell you all the sweet words you want too, just to get the deal. There is one way you can actually influence on the price and that is to learn portuguese in such away that you can have a conversation. It's amaizing how sweet talk in their own language makes them soft. .... Think the focus is totally wrong if all you can talk about with a GDP is your performance compared to other mongers.

Chico[/QUOTE]Chico,

That is exactly what I was referring to: guys that choose to believe everything that the GDPs are saying when they are clearly negotiating and then report it here as the absolute truth. It really does not help the new guys that come here for advice and read this as they may believe it to be fact.

Rather than get all "raucus and in your face loud" out in public in Rio and giving Americans a bad name (no, not all Americans are loud mouths that think we run the ultimate game when in Rio), I am investing a great deal of time focused on learning Porto. I will be spending a great deal of time in Rio in the coming years. Speaking the language obviously is essential to conducting business there - but I really look forward to getting the additional benefit you describe above of striking up a conversation in the ladies' own language. Then the conversation can get beyond the pre-packaged small talk, and it certainly widens the pool of ladies.

Now back to my language studies.

[b]Termas Monte Carlo[/b]
It was a Friday and I wanted to hit Centro one more time before the weekend came. Unfortunately, that plan was squashed since I had already made plans with my landlord to go to Lapa at 7p, so I had to figure out where to go and get back to the apartment by 6:30 p. I felt under time constraints, just like those usual last terma sessions right before you head to GIG to go back home.

I ended up choosing Monte Carlo since it was within 15 minutes walking distance from the apartment. I got there at 4:30p - pretty dead, only about 12 girls in the boite. This dud named Isabela that I sessioned with on my last trip sat down and started trying to get friendly. She was a total dud in the cabine last time, so I told her I had to go to the sauna and left. I came back to the boite 20 minutes later and there were about 20 girls now. I would say there were about 5 or 6 that I would consider sessioning with.

I ended up chatting with some girl named Rosie - 18 years old. She wasn't a stunner, but she did have a great body. She was also nice and a good kisser so I decided to give her a whirl. In the cabine, she was pretty good (about 8/10), but not great. Overall, I was quite satisfied but wasn't interested in getting her number for any outside action. I left and paid the R$260 for the entry+room+garota.

[b]Lapa - Rio Scenarium[/b]
My landlord and I took the bus from Ave Princesa Isabel to Lapa. Pretty cool area that I've never been to before. Lots of bars and locals hanging out. We had a meal at some bar and then went to Rio Scenarium a little before 9:30p, so the wait in line was only about 10 minutes. By 11p, the line is a mile outside the door.

This place was impressive. It had 3 floors - a live band on floor 1, a lot of tables to just chill and drink on floor 2, and a discotheque on floor 3. All walks of life were at this place - old, young, locals, and a sprinkling of tourists. All I can say is the women at this place were off the charts! Talk about heavenly creatures. I will have to beef up my Portuguese one day to be able to run with these garotas. My time will come, but not yet. We left right at midnight - I paid my cover and one drink, which came out to R$28. Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed the tour of Lapa nightlife.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Termas Monte Carlo[/b]

[b]Lapa - Rio Scenarium[/b]
My landlord and I took the bus from Ave Princesa Isabel to Lapa. Pretty cool area that I've never been to before. Lots of bars and locals hanging out. We had a meal at some bar and then went to Rio Scenarium a little before 9:30p, so the wait in line was only about 10 minutes. By 11p, the line is a mile outside the door.

This place was impressive. It had 3 floors - a live band on floor 1, a lot of tables to just chill and drink on floor 2, and a discotheque on floor 3. All walks of life were at this place - old, young, locals, and a sprinkling of tourists. All I can say is the women at this place were off the charts! Talk about heavenly creatures. I will have to beef up my Portuguese one day to be able to run with these garotas. My time will come, but not yet. We left right at midnight - I paid my cover and one drink, which came out to R$28. Overall, I thoroughly enjoyed the tour of Lapa nightlife.[/QUOTE]



I will be back in Rio in a few weeks and plan on spending more time in Lapa by the Arch. This club you went to, can you eat diiner there? I plan on going with a few people and eant to see the live bands, They serve food there? Do you know if you need to make a reservation if they do?

Geo

[QUOTE=Geofagus]I will be back in Rio in a few weeks and plan on spending more time in Lapa by the Arch. This club you went to, can you eat diiner there? I plan on going with a few people and eant to see the live bands, They serve food there? Do you know if you need to make a reservation if they do?

Geo[/QUOTE]
Yes, they serve food there. I didn't get a look at the food menu, though. My tourguide/landlord pointed out some people eating and said "Look..tourists eating dinner". She basically said locals only order appetizers at this club. To get a table on the first floor where the live band is, you will need a reservation. I think the 2nd floor is first come/first serve, and after we finally got a table we saw other people eating there.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Intro[/b]
So I was wearing shorts and flip-flops and they didn't want to let me into the Whiskeria, which is right next door and is called "Whiskeria Manhattan".[/QUOTE]Dress code. This is good information. Based on what you saw, what was the minimum acceptable dress code?

The pretense of a dress code is amusing. I think whiskeria gentlemen and termas mongers all end up buck naked fucking the same set of garotas in the same cabines. Maybe some garotas are super classy whiskeria-only at Cancun, but at least at 4x4 the same always troll both areas.

As for this girl named Milena at 4x4, AZN, my serious sympathies. Perhaps you could have left the cabine and asked mgmt for a different girl to finish the session, given that you had bought a full hour. Granted, this is my newly adopted strategy for dealing with "sim, completa"s who don't deliver the culo, and I haven't tried it myself, so I can't claim to have walked-the-talk yet.

I believe some other mongers here have lodged an early-session complaint on a bad girl and gotten another replacement garota for the remainder of the paid time, if I am not mistaken. Can you discriminating consumers sound-off on the topic?

[QUOTE=Geofagus]This club you went to, can you eat diiner there? I plan on going with a few people and eant to see the live bands, They serve food there? Do you know if you need to make a reservation if they do?
Geo[/QUOTE]
Yes, you can eat there. The food is very good and reasonable priced. No need for reservation at the top floor.
[url]http://www.rioscenarium.com.br/nossacozinha.aspx[/url]

[QUOTE=Chicobarca]Think the focus is totally wrong if all you can talk about with a GDP is your performance compared to other mongers.

Chico[/QUOTE]

Completely. If you are telling that shit to a GDP, she is silently laughing at you.

[QUOTE=Devilspinkick]Get over it. I haven't seen one particular race that's truly preferred over the other in Brazil. The gals will tell you anything if they think it will make you like them more and have a session with them (ie., give them money). I've had garotas tell me that they didn't like Asian men and that they have small dicks but it has never stopped an Asian guy from having the time of their life in Brazil. Hell, the Asian guys I've met all had big smiles on their faces just like everyone else.

I've had garotas tell me that they love bald men. Since I'm bald I ask them why and I always get some line about how bald men are sexy and good in bed. Yeh right! I know it's all bullshit but who cares. You have to take anything you are told with a grain of salt.

When I'm in Europa I have no problem hooking up with Caucasian ladies nor dames of other nationalities (granted that many of them are working girls). Does this mean that European women prefer black guys? Of course not. They like the dinheiro!

Doesn't matter what color or nationality you are; if you are decent looking guy with money, a nice disposition, good hygiene, and treat the ladies well - you can always get plenty of buceta in Brazil. It's not that way in all countries, but in Brazil (and especially Rio) it is.

So if you want to feel special and preferred then more power to you. Live the fantasy. Just remember that I'm better than all of you bastards.

"O tempora, O mores" - DSK[/QUOTE]We are making up levels of preference to make an assessment to come to a conclusion which race a GDP would prefer! Come on brother mongers, let us be honest with each other, they prefer GREEN or what ever color the monetary coin is in your country. Some might take what ever legal tender you might have in your pocket at the time, being real, pound, dollar etc. We make these brazileras seem more than what they are. Mental note people, they are toys. Do we treat them with respect? . Yes. Do we partake in the culture? Yes, of course we do. Let us not forget one major part of the equation. It is all about the MONEY and like a Cheap Lawyer, they will twist and say anything if the price is wright. It is your Dollar and they will say anything you want to hear as long as the money does not run out.

It was a Saturday night, so I decided to go to Solarium. I wanted to try to take the bus there from Copacabana (R. Barata Ribeiro/Princesa Isabel). I looked at Rio Onibus routes online and they showed a 125 bus that was supposed to be labeled (Central - Jardim (Hotoro)) and ran every 20-25 minutes. So I waited on R. Barata Ribeiro for this bus but kept seeing the other 125 (General Osario) bus which came every 5 minutes. After about 35 minutes, I gave up and took a cab. I want to try to take the bus to Jardim Botanico again on Monday. [b][color=blue]Does anybody know of a bus that I can take from Copa to Jardim Botanico? I think the 583 might, but I am unsure.[/color][/b]

I arrived at Solarium at about 6:30p. There were about 25-30 girls and about 10 guys, so a pretty good ratio. I ended up chatting with some little blonde named Dominique. I'd say she was a cross between Cameron Diaz and Elisha Cuthbert, but more on the Diaz side which brings her looks down a couple of notches. She said she has been working there for 2 months. I think she was actually telling the truth, since I didn't see her at Solarium back in May when I went a few times. Seems these GDP's like to lie and say they've only been there a short time in order to appear to have less mileage or wear-and-tear. Can't say I blame them. Who wants to test drive some beat up used car anyway. Ha. So we ended up going to the cabine an hour later. The session was pretty good, nothing earth-shattering. I'd say a 7.75/10. I didn't bother to get her number. In retrospect, I'm not even sure why I picked her as she wasn't anything special in the boite in terms of "foreplay". I guess I'm a sucker for the cute girl-next-door type.

After the session, I returned to the boite just to chill for an hour chatting with some girls. Saw some prospects for my return on Monday, which is free cabine night [color=red](R$70 off with a coupon)[/color]!!! And yes, they are open on Monday even though it's Independence Day! I eventually left at 9:30p - total damage was R$285 (entry+room+girl) excluding drinks.

....thanks for your daily report, I really enjoy it.

Just 2 fast questions, how is the situation at the beach right now ? Besides the weather, I guess nice, from the photo posted from Bimbo Boy, I mean pros in front Caesar Palace hotel, for example, or you did not check ?

So far, which terma, for girls and price, you like more ?

I am sure somebody will suggest you how to get to Solarium without taxi.

Keep on have fun

Cheers

[quote]Does anybody know of a bus that I can take from Copa to Jardim Botanico? I think the 583 might, but I am unsure.[/quote]
128, 136, 154, 434.

583 looks like the Cosme Velho / Leblon Metro bus and should manage it eventually - it's one of the circulars.

But apart from the provisos about which bits you want to go to/from (JB covers quite an area), remember the traffic on those routes and especially round Lagoa can be horrendous. Worth keeping some numbers in your head and bus change in your pocket then, maybe on a nice day, just leg it, and grab a bus if you see one. I only go to JB for it's many other attractions. Couldn't tell you about the terma there.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]....thanks for your daily report, I really enjoy it.

Just 2 fast questions, how is the situation at the beach right now ? Besides the weather, I guess nice, from the photo posted from Bimbo Boy, I mean pros in front Caesar Palace hotel, for example, or you did not check ?

So far, which terma, for girls and price, you like more ?

I am sure somebody will suggest you how to get to Solarium without taxi.

Keep on have fun

Cheers[/QUOTE]
Lukasek,

I have been to Posto 9 in front of Caesar Park Hotel on a Sunday a few times. I never really can spot out the pros there. I have seen some Solarium girls drinking juice, but other than that, there just seems to be a lot of people in that Posto 9 area. Maybe I just have a bad eye for pros. One giveaway is eye-contact, but I haven't really had any while on that beach.

Today is very bad. Rainy, so no chance to go to Posto 9.

I think for value, 4x4 is still the best if you can get a session before 5pm for the price of R$210. After 5pm, the price at R$250 is getting close to the same as the Copa termas although you get a full hour, so there is still some good value there. It's just with this damn inflation, Centro is getting up there in price and gone are the good ol' days. For my taste, I like how the Solarium girls look the best. For performance in the cabine, I have had my best experiences at Monte Carlo and Luomo. I have also had the most luck pulling girls from Luomo to go to my apartment. I really like Mondays and Tuesdays at the Copa termas though, because I can use the promotional coupons from their respective websites at Solarium on Mondays and at Monte Carlo on Tuesdays. This cuts the cost down to about R$215 for Solarium and R$200 for Monte Carlo.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I have been to Posto 9 in front of Caesar Park Hotel on a Sunday a few times. I never really can spot out the pros there. I have seen some Solarium girls drinking juice, but other than that, there just seems to be a lot of people in that Posto 9 area. Maybe I just have a bad eye for pros. [/QUOTE]
Posto 9 is an excellent spot for meeting hot regular girls. If you want to meet pro's, move down a bit in front of Caesar Park (or head to the beach in front of Othon Palace, in Copa).

Azn Safado,

good idea to use coupon ;) but I was not able to find it in the webpage of solarium, neither if you click on promocoes it does not appear, so where is it ?

On the contrary I noticed the coupon at luomo gives you entrance 50% off but everyday, not only on tuesday.

Sperto, just to be sure I understood good, all posto 9 is good and the part of it in front of Caesar is the best for pro, right ?

I always been in front of Caesar Park, that's why I am asking.

Thanks

You can absolutely meet regular garotas on that beach, if you are in good shape and not an obvious monger, a few will even speak English as it is a higher class of people, I really like Ipanema Beach better.

There are a small handful of Solarium & Centaurus GDP's plying their wares in front of Caesar Park, it is a totally different scene than Othon beach in Posto 5, worth the trip for a few hours just for the eye candy, if nothing else!


[QUOTE=Sperto]Posto 9 is an excellent spot for meeting hot regular girls. If you want to meet pro's, move down a bit in front of Caesar Park (or head to the beach in front of Othon Palace, in Copa).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Azn Safado,

good idea to use coupon ;) but I was not able to find it in the webpage of solarium, neither if you click on promocoes it does not appear, so where is it ?
[/QUOTE]
Lukasek,

You can go to this URL and enter in your name and email address:
[url]http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php[/url]

They will email you the coupon, which is good for only 15 days from the date of issue. So don't submit a request too early. I usually do it a day before my trip.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Lukasek,

You can go to this URL and enter in your name and email address:
[url]http://www.solarium.com.br/festadointernauta.php[/url]

They will email you the coupon, which is good for only 15 days from the date of issue. So don't submit a request too early. I usually do it a day before my trip.[/QUOTE]
Right-click the saved file
Open with Notepad
Edit, Find enviado
change the date to the current date (remembering that it is dd/mm/yyyy
Save or Save as

Not that I have ever done this.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Right-click the saved file

Open with Notepad

Edit, Find enviado

change the date to the current date (remembering that it is dd/mm/yyyy
Save or Save as

Not that I have ever done this.[/QUOTE]ExecTalent,

It doesn't work. There is no "enviado" in the text, and there is no dates as well.

What am I doing wrong?

Fellas,

Does tomorrow being a holiday means there are no options no Centro?

Does anybody know?

Thanks

What a crappy Sunday! Cloudy and rainy all day. I got up, watched some of the US Open tennis on SporTV2, then went to a kilo place (Temperata Restaurant) at 3p to grab some lunch.

I took the Metro Subway to Siqueira Campos and walked into Luomo at around 6:30p. After hitting the showers, I came into the boite around 6:45p. Whoa...so many dudes! I counted 18 guys sitting around, compared to about 20 girls. It felt like a roomier version of 4x4! After about 20 minutes of walking around and looking around, I finally started chatting with some blonde named Lunah. She had nordic looks and I found out she is from Goiânia. Looks-wise, I would say she was a dead-ringer for Barbara Bach (the actress from James Bond's [i]The Spy Who Loved Me[/i]). This girl seemed like the party-type, high energy. Conversation was spotty - I wouldn't say she'd ever qualify for Mensa. Ha. In the boite she was a good kisser and given what selection there was on this night, I was pretty set on taking this garota back to the cabine.

In the cabine, the tempo was very slow and sensual. In NBA terms, I would say Lunah had a slow-tempo, half-court offense of an East coast team. Ingrid, on the other hand, would probably have the high-octane showtime fastbreak offense of the 80's LA Lakers. I guess this session was more like making love than having sex. No complaints here, it's always nice to have different styles and tempos with these garotas. Session was good - I'd say 8/10. I got her number but doubt I will call her because we didn't really connect intellectually or emotionally. Ha. I'm starting to sound like some kind of chick.

I came back into the boite at around 9p. The girl-guy ratio became much better - about 25 girls to 10 guys. Still, I didn't find one garota that I would session with in the near future which is disappointing. I left about 30 minutes later. Paid R$240 excluding drinks thanks to the 50% cover charge discount. [color=red]Luomo has a promotion every day where as long as you get there before 7p, you will get get 1/2 off the R$60 cover charge if you wind up sessioning with a girl.[/color] Otherwise, looks like their prices have gone up R$10 since I was last there.

ISG Board,

It will be my first trip to Rio. I noticed many of the posts talking about entering the Termas and putting on a robe. Please explain the proper etiquette upon entering the Termas. Do you walk in, then they issue you a robe? Where do you put your clothes? Do they also issue shower shoes or should you best bring your own? Have traveled to many monger spots I. E., Colombia, Dom Rep, Costa Rica, etc., but never to Rio.

The termas etiquette I leave to the other members to answer.
I can provide some etiquette for Vila Mimosa.

1. Choose a girl that appeals to you.
2. The price is R$ 25-27. Negotiate about the time. Most casas allows 30 minutes, but some will try to only give you 20 minutes.
3. Make sure you know what you will get. BBBJ, anal?
4. Take a leak before the session if you need to, just to avoid wasting valuable time upstairs. Take the opportunity to wash junior.
5. Pay at the counter to the person in charge (often an agressive-looking lesbian). Before handing the money over make sure to point out that you want a room with a ventilador, if there is no AC. Also, very important, make sure to point out the starting time and tell them that no way you want them to ring the bell before the session finished.
6. Head upstairs. Choose the most decent vacant room. Clean sheets is nice, but to much to expect. A new sheet doesn't necesssarily means it's clean.
7. Undress. Put your clothes where you can see them e.g on top your shoes.
8. If you want, take some quick photos and go down to business. Try not to pay attention to the noise from the cabin next door and avoid looking at the roaches running over the old condoms on the floor.
9. Positions where you have less contact with the sheet/matress are recommended. Lie on top or doggy.
10. Most likely the bell will ring a couple of minutes before the time finished. Then it's time to hurry up! Make sure to pop.
11. Use the toilet paper to clean up. You're propably sweaty by now, use the toilet to wash up in the basin. Don't use the towel hanging in the toilet.
12. Give the girl a kiss on the cheek and leave.

[QUOTE=Iamsmooth]ISG Board,

It will be my first trip to Rio. I noticed many of the posts talking about entering the Termas and putting on a robe. Please explain the proper etiquette upon entering the Termas. Do you walk in, then they issue you a robe? Where do you put your clothes? Do they also issue shower shoes or should you best bring your own? Have traveled to many monger spots I. E., Colombia, Dom Rep, Costa Rica, etc., but never to Rio.[/QUOTE]

for answer to this question try this:
Go back to the main Brazil menu, scroll down to "Bubba's Guide", then go to last post. From there go back (one page) to part 2 of 12 where he covers thermas.


TJ

[QUOTE=Iamsmooth]ISG Board,
Please explain the proper etiquette upon entering the Termas. Do you walk in, then they issue you a robe? Where do you put your clothes? Do they also issue shower shoes or should you best bring your own? Have traveled to many monger spots I. E., Colombia, Dom Rep, Costa Rica, etc., but never to Rio.[/QUOTE]

When you enter they will ask you if it is your first time. For you, the answer will be "yes". They'll explain the pricing to you and sometimes you might even get a quick tour of the facilities (depends on who the staff is and what mood he/she is in). If you decide to stay then you'll be given a key with a number and you then make your way to the locker area where you change into a robe and they provide you with flip-flops. Store your clothes in the locker corresponding to your key number. This same key number is what the girls and bartenders use to apply charges to your account, so keep your key close at hand and don't lose it. Most people keep the key around their wrist or in their robe pockets.

You should SHOWER after changing into your robe and BEFORE playing with the girlies. Hygiene is important and the gals like it when you are clean .... especially if they are stroking you in the boite. Some people wear underwear under their robes and some don't, but only clueless tourists try to wear their shorts/pants and t-shirt under their robes. You'll look pretty silly and it's a definite faux pas.

Other than that, don't get overly drunk and act like a jerk and treat the ladies well. Garotas like guys that are friendly and like to have fun. You pay for all activities when you leave (the one exception being Termas Centaurus).

Have fun - DSK

[QUOTE=Sperto]The termas etiquette I leave to the other members to answer.
I can provide some etiquette for Vila Mimosa.

1. Choose a girl that appeals to you.
2. The price is R$ 25-27. Negotiate about the time. Most casas allows 30 minutes, but some will try to only give you 20 minutes.
3. Make sure you know what you will get. BBBJ, anal?
4. Take a leak before the session if you need to, just to avoid wasting valuable time upstairs. Take the opportunity to wash junior.
5. Pay at the counter to the person in charge (often an agressive-looking lesbian). Before handing the money over make sure to point out that you want a room with a ventilador, if there is no AC. Also, very important, make sure to point out the starting time and tell them that no way you want them to ring the bell before the session finished.
6. Head upstairs. Choose the most decent vacant room. Clean sheets is nice, but to much to expect. A new sheet doesn't necesssarily means it's clean.
7. Undress. Put your clothes where you can see them e.g on top your shoes.
8. If you want, take some quick photos and go down to business. Try not to pay attention to the noise from the cabin next door and avoid looking at the roaches running over the old condoms on the floor.
9. Positions where you have less contact with the sheet/matress is recommended. Lie on top or doggy.
10. Most likely the bell will ring a couple of minutes before the time finished. Then it's time to hurry up! Make sure to pop.
11. Use the toilet paper to clean up. You're propably sweaty by now, use the toilet to wash up in the basin. Don't use the towel hanging in the toilet.
12. Give the girl a kiss on the cheek and leave.[/QUOTE]
I read this as though it were a story. I felt as though I was there while reading this report. The " aggressive lesbian", "roaches running over old condoms".......laughing my ass off.....cause its all true. Very true.

Sperto, what can I say......just classic. Great info. and to the tee!

Disappointment yesterday, but that´s often the case on sundays. Will check again today, althought it´s Indepence Day in Brazil. Let´s see if any attractive garotas around.

[QUOTE=Sperto]The termas etiquette I leave to the other members to answer.
I can provide some etiquette for Vila Mimosa.....

....Most casas allows 30 minutes, but some will try to only give you 20 minutes.
....Clean sheets is nice, but to much to expect. A new sheet doesn't necesssarily means it's clean.
....avoid looking at the roaches running over the old condoms on the floor.
....Positions where you have less contact with the sheet/matress are recommended. Lie on top or doggy.....[/QUOTE]
Thank you, Sperto. I can't think of better or more succinct illustrations (although the photos taken there do a pretty good job) of why I have never patronized VM, and never will. Yuck! Oh well, "de gustibus non est disputandum," as the saying goes.

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Thank you, Sperto. I can't think of better or more succinct illustrations (although the photos taken there do a pretty good job) of why I have never patronized VM, and never will. Yuck! Oh well, "de gustibus non est disputandum," as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]
Variatio delectat,
Corpore bucetinum bundasis necesse est,
Quot homines, tot sentientiae.

[QUOTE=Sperto]....bucetinum bundasis.... [/QUOTE]
Hmmm.....somehow I don't recall learning these words in the Latin curricula I studied. Perhaps they're in the revised texts?

[QUOTE=Jon_the_Man]Disappointment yesterday, but that´s often the case on sundays. Will check again today, althought it´s Indepence Day in Brazil. Let´s see if any attractive garotas around.[/QUOTE]Curious. What is the avg./max amount of girls one might see at Monte Carlo and Lluomo and what day is best for #of girls. I went to both on my last trip and there were only about 15 girls. Not a big problem because there weren't many guys either. Thanks!

Rodeo

[b]Independence Day[/b]
Today was a holiday - Brazilian Independence Day. Seemed like any other day. They don't do fireworks like the US or anything. Banks and business offices were closed, but a lot stores and restaurants open. This holiday seems just like the US Labor Day, which also was today.

I woke up early, well early for me at least, at 11a today. Made plans to meet with a local Uni student who I've known for a couple of years through MyLanguageExchange.com. She's not hot, but good to converse with and learn Portuguese. We had lunch in Arpoador at a place called Koni Store, which is right next door to the Bingo Arpoador (rumored future home of HELP). We had temaki, which is some kind of sushi hand-roll. Pretty good stuff.

[b]Bus ride to Solarium[/b]
Man it was a perfect day outside. Sunny and clear, tons of people at the beach so I walked around a bit after lunch. Eventually, I was sweaty and tired so I went back to the apartment to take a shower and get ready for Solarium. I checked the bus routes on rioonibus.com one more time and decided on the [color=blue]584 [/color](COSME VELHO - LEBLON CIRCULAR) bus. This one starts from R. Cosme Velho (wherever that is) but then goes to R. Princesa Isabel and then to R. Barata Riberio. So I caught the bus right outside my apartment at 4:55p at the corner of R. Belfort Roxo. The bus then goes through Ipanema on R. Prudente de Morais and eventually onto R. Jardim Botanico. Pretty cool route to check out some of Ipanema. Once the bus passed the Jardim Botanico garden itself, I yanked the stop chain and the bus dropped me off on R. Jardim Botanico literally 2 blocks away from Solarium. It was now 5:40p, thus a 45-minute bus ride. Not too bad. So I finally have a new way to get from Copacabana to Solarium for R$2,20.

[b]Termas Solarium[/b]
Into Solarium we go. I handed the ladies up front my printed coupon for R$70 off the cabine. I hit the showers again to freshen up and head into the boite. It was about 6p by now. Wow, kind of dead inside the boite. About 12 girls and 5 guys. Where did everyone go? They must all be in the cabines doing early programmas.

I then walked past some nice looking garota who smiled at me. Originally, I wanted to try this blondie that I had met on Saturday but I didn't see her around. So I finally motioned this garota that had smiled to have a seat. She had quite a pretty face, with auburn colored hair. Her name was Geovana and she lived in Jacarepaguá. We chatted a bit and I find out she worked for a year at Solarium, then quit and worked in Centro, and just came back to Solarium 2 weeks ago. She spoke Spanish too and said she worked in Spain back in 2004. I was then thinking "this broad must have a bunch of mileage on her". I guess she's no spring chicken. Ha. Come to think of it, this garota might have been over 30 years old, but still very attractive nonetheless. She did look a bit like a younger Kelly Preston (John Travolta's wife). Well, younger compared to the present-day one - a Kelly Preston in her early 30's, if you will. Anyway, turns out she was a fantastic kisser - very soft lips and not hyper-aggressive.

In the cabine, the session was good. I'd say it was a solid 8/10. She was a nice person and seemed very intelligent. It's just that she had a bit too much mileage on her for my taste. She was in good shape but her boobs were a bit saggy. Thus, I didn't pursue getting her number for any potential apartment action. After we bid adieu, I went back into the boite.

It was about 8p now, and boy did the numbers change. There were now 20 guys and 35-40 girls. This place was jumpin'. I got a drink and sat down to scope out potential garotas for next time. Soon after, this garota named Suzanna sits down. This girl was a stunner - long black hair, gorgeous face, perfect body. Well, almost perfect body - turns out she had implants. If I want a gorgeous woman with implants, I'll go to Medellin, Colombia. I love garotas here because they are mostly au naturel. We chatted a bit but I told her I already had a programma and would probably not pursue another one tonight. She got up and some guy snagged her immediately. Literally, within 2 minutes after they did the standard introductions, they were off to the cabine! I doubt he was in a hurry for a flight, since it was already close to 8:30p. He was either horny as hell or had no screening requirements whatsoever.

I chilled a bit more and spotted this beautiful blonde. I walk up to her and chat a bit. I then realize it's the blonde that I met on Saturday that I wanted to session with today. I just didn't recognize her because her hair looked different today. Anyway, she says "You already programma, huh? With Geovana..." I said "yeah, so I will have to come back for you". I didn't even bother to ask how she knew about my programma (she wasn't in the boite at the time I was with Geovana). It was that damn GDP network again! More powerful than the CIA and Interpol combined. Ha. I guess I could have sessioned again, but I usually don't do doubles in such a short time span for both budgetary and physical reasons. I frankly don't know how some of the mongers do it 3-4 times a day for like 7 days straight! After so many sessions in a short period, I get numb. I guess I'd rather save some bullets in the chamber just to have some remaining sensation during the latter sessions at the tail-end of my trip.

Oddly enough, Geovana never came back to the boite. Well, at least in the 90 minutes after we were done. Some girls come back to the boite after 10 minutes, and others disappear for a couple of hours. [i]Where do they go?[/i] Anyway, I finally left at about 9:30p and with the R$70 cabine discount, ended up paying $R215 (entry+girl) excluding drinks.

A quick post to thank Rodeo for his fantastic reports! Not only detailed but very entertaining as well. Made me think I was there all along with you. Reminded me of some good time each time I am in Rio. Great stuff man!The blonde from Karla's Models has a great body. Was the face as good as the body? If yes, that's a hell of a deal for 2 hours at only 120R. That's one thing I have yet to try when in Rio, escorts. I am more a terma guy. Time to expand my activities I guess...

AZN, great reports as well. I have yet to visit Solarium, will be on my to do list next time in town. Keep up the great work.

Sperto and Lorenzo, your latin exchange was quite entertaining to say the least. :D

This is simply classic stuff Sperto!:D
Variatio delectat,
Corpore bucetinum bundasis necesse est,
Quot homines, tot sentientiae.
Yesterday 12:19

Keep banging guys, I'll be in town soon!:)

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Independence Day[/b]
Today was a holiday - Brazilian Independence Day. Seemed like any other day. They don't do fireworks like the US or anything. Banks and business offices were closed, but a lot stores and restaurants open. This holiday seems just like the US Labor Day, which also was today.

I woke up early, well early for me at least, at 11a today. Made plans to meet with a local Uni student who I've known for a couple of years through MyLanguageExchange.com. She's not hot, but good to converse with and learn Portuguese. We had lunch in Arpoador at a place called Koni Store, which is right next door to the Bingo Arpoador (rumored future home of HELP). We had temaki, which is some kind of sushi hand-roll. Pretty good stuff.

[b]Bus ride to Solarium[/b]
Man it was a perfect day outside. Sunny and clear, tons of people at the beach so I walked around a bit after lunch. Eventually, I was sweaty and tired so I went back to the apartment to take a shower and get ready for Solarium. I checked the bus routes on rioonibus.com one more time and decided on the [color=blue]584 [/color](COSME VELHO - LEBLON CIRCULAR) bus. This one starts from R. Cosme Velho (wherever that is) but then goes to R. Princesa Isabel and then to R. Barata Riberio. So I caught the bus right outside my apartment at 4:55p at the corner of R. Belfort Roxo. The bus then goes through Ipanema on R. Prudente de Morais and eventually onto R. Jardim Botanico. Pretty cool route to check out some of Ipanema. Once the bus passed the Jardim Botanico garden itself, I yanked the stop chain and the bus dropped me off on R. Jardim Botanico literally 2 blocks away from Solarium. It was now 5:40p, thus a 45-minute bus ride. Not too bad. So I finally have a new way to get from Copacabana to Solarium for R$2,20.

[b]Termas Solarium[/b]
Into Solarium we go. I handed the ladies up front my printed coupon for R$70 off the cabine. I hit the showers again to freshen up and head into the boite. It was about 6p by now. Wow, kind of dead inside the boite. About 12 girls and 5 guys. Where did everyone go? They must all be in the cabines doing early programmas.

I then walked past some nice looking garota who smiled at me. Originally, I wanted to try this blondie that I had met on Saturday but I didn't see her around. So I finally motioned this garota that had smiled to have a seat. She had quite a pretty face, with auburn colored hair. Her name was Geovana and she lived in Jacarepaguá. We chatted a bit and I find out she worked for a year at Solarium, then quit and worked in Centro, and just came back to Solarium 2 weeks ago. She spoke Spanish too and said she worked in Spain back in 2004. I was then thinking "this broad must have a bunch of mileage on her". I guess she's no spring chicken. Ha. Come to think of it, this garota might have been over 30 years old, but still very attractive nonetheless. She did look a bit like a younger Kelly Preston (John Travolta's wife). Well, younger compared to the present-day one - a Kelly Preston in her early 30's, if you will. Anyway, turns out she was a fantastic kisser - very soft lips and not hyper-aggressive.

In the cabine, the session was good. I'd say it was a solid 8/10. She was a nice person and seemed very intelligent. It's just that she had a bit too much mileage on her for my taste. She was in good shape but her boobs were a bit saggy. Thus, I didn't pursue getting her number for any potential apartment action. After we bid adieu, I went back into the boite.

It was about 8p now, and boy did the numbers change. There were now 20 guys and 35-40 girls. This place was jumpin'. I got a drink and sat down to scope out potential garotas for next time. Soon after, this garota named Suzanna sits down. This girl was a stunner - long black hair, gorgeous face, perfect body. Well, almost perfect body - turns out she had implants. If I want a gorgeous woman with implants, I'll go to Medellin, Colombia. I love garotas here because they are mostly au naturel. We chatted a bit but I told her I already had a programma and would probably not pursue another one tonight. She got up and some guy snagged her immediately. Literally, within 2 minutes after they did the standard introductions, they were off to the cabine! I doubt he was in a hurry for a flight, since it was already close to 8:30p. He was either horny as hell or had no screening requirements whatsoever.

I chilled a bit more and spotted this beautiful blonde. I walk up to her and chat a bit. I then realize it's the blonde that I met on Saturday that I wanted to session with today. I just didn't recognize her because her hair looked different today. Anyway, she says "You already programma, huh? With Geovana..." I said "yeah, so I will have to come back for you". I didn't even bother to ask how she knew about my programma (she wasn't in the boite at the time I was with Geovana). It was that damn GDP network again! More powerful than the CIA and Interpol combined. Ha. I guess I could have sessioned again, but I usually don't do doubles in such a short time span for both budgetary and physical reasons. I frankly don't know how some of the mongers do it 3-4 times a day for like 7 days straight! After so many sessions in a short period, I get numb. I guess I'd rather save some bullets in the chamber just to have some remaining sensation during the latter sessions at the tail-end of my trip.

Oddly enough, Geovana never came back to the boite. Well, at least in the 90 minutes after we were done. Some girls come back to the boite after 10 minutes, and others disappear for a couple of hours. [i]Where do they go?[/i] Anyway, I finally left at about 9:30p and with the R$70 cabine discount, ended up paying $R215 (entry+girl) excluding drinks.

Watch this....

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]

[QUOTE=Lorenzo]Thank you, Sperto. I can't think of better or more succinct illustrations (although the photos taken there do a pretty good job) of why I have never patronized VM, and never will. Yuck! Oh well, "de gustibus non est disputandum," as the saying goes.[/QUOTE]LOL, OMG just when you thought you heard it all after all of my years going to Rio I never even thought of going up there to VM seem like I haven't miss anything.

Kid Cisco

Sunday (late evening): Okay bitches, I hope you didn't think I was done tempting you with more of my exploits of daring do! Anyway, so, where was I? Oh yeah, so, So, picking up where I left off, I called the beach Viviane and she was very happy to get my call. Remember, she was the nice, normal-looking girl with the sundress from the beach. Anyway, we got to talking and decided she would come out and meet me at Balcony Bar as she was finishing up some shopping nearby. She showed up wearing another sundress of some sort and a couple of shopping bags. She gave me a warm embrace and kiss as if we were old lovers. Up close, she was not as "cute" as she had seemed from afar, but, still very attractive. She started asking me about my plans for the evening and I told her that I hoped to spend the night with her. She seemed open to that idea.

TAKE NOTE, HERE'S WHERE THINGS START GETTING WEIRD!

Next, she starts asking if I wanted to just meet her at Help and that she was thinking of going to Help. I told her I didn't need to go to Help if I was with her. It was now obvious more than ever that she was a working girl. She kept plugging Help and I would later find out why. Amongst the guys I was with ogling her and making comments about her and other girls, she asked if we could step aside, which I obliged. So, we began conversation about the price to which she responded 500. Dollars! I looked at her like she had a dick hanging from her forehead, like, "***** whathefuck? ! " I said, uh, I don't have any dollars and probably no one here has any dollars. Why would I have dollars, no one takes dollars for payment.

THIS IS THE FIRST POINT AT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE DISMISSED HER ASS!

She then challenges that since I'm an American, she "knows" I have a stash of dollars for emergencies or can get dollars from the ATM. I again educated her that, A: no such stash existed and B: you can only get Reais from the ATM machine. Then, I challenged her that 500 dollars, converted to Reais was STILL waay too much. I pulled out the calculator on my phone and did the conversion: it was fucking 925R! Lucky for her I had a lot of caipirinhas or I would have walked away from her at this point. Instead, I put on my negotiation hat. After I stopped laughing at her and looking at her like a newbie (which clearly she was not), she started explaining how she "vacations" abroad and needs dollars for the better exchange rate (don't know where she's finding good exchange rates for the dollar, but, whatever. Not my problem. So, I did what any self-respecting monger did and countered with 150R. She looked at me like I had shit running down my face and said $250! I'm thinking, is this ***** retarded? "I don't have fucking dollars" I told her. At least now, she was down to a range that I had experience with (paying that price in the US). So, I was able to compare her to some of the fine ass Colombianas, Brasilheiras and Venezolanas I banged in S. Florida and told her: "There's no way I'm paying $250 for YOU, even if I had it." I said this in a very condescending tone and half expected this to end it all. So, she said, "look, I really like you, what do you think is fair for me and 150R is not fair." I countered with 250R and we met at 300R. More than I wanted to pay, but not out of the realm of normalcy for an all nighter at this point in the night, about 10: 30, 11pm with a girl with her body. So, we go to her place to drop off her stuff and get some overnight stuff, meanwhile, I'm waiting in the taxi and getting pissed because its taking her so long and the meter was running. Finally, she comes out with a big smile on her face and some really racy lookin lingerie in her hand. I thought. Ehh, this might not be such a bad night after all! So, we take the taxi back to my crib. Then, the shit starts getting thick again. As she's settling in, putting her things to the side, getting a drink and trying to get comfortable, she starts nervously looking for her "document" aka her ID card. She starts getting frustrated because she says she will be leaving the country soon for one of her "vacations." So, I ask her where she was going and. Do you know her ass said RWANDA! ? Rwanda! Now, I know the Don Cheadle flick was just a movie, but it was based on real events and I followed the whole genocide thing pretty closely. I looked at her like.***** are you crazy? ! In fact, I think my exact words were "*****, are you crazy? ! She laughed. I asked her if she knew what happened there and she said yes. She said all that was over and it was a really nice place now. Hmmm. All this time, I thought Miami was a nice place; Rio is a pretty nice place; hell, DC is even pretty nice in the Spring time; Hawaii is the kinda place I would go to if I'm looking for a nice place. Italy, Australia, Spain. Hell, I can think of about 100 other countries that would be "nicer" places than Rwanda. Okay, so, of course I had to ask her what business was like there and that's where she told me she would get the $500 per customer. I said "you must not get much business" and she said yes, she does, but only the elite and government officials. She said they treat the Brazilian women very nice. She said she began going there because a friend of hers suggested she join her there as there is apparently a large number of Brazilian GDPs working there. You know, I thought I would go just about anywhere for a good piece of Brazilian ass (there ain't many not-good pieces of Brazilian ass in my experience), but I'll be damned if I'm ever ever ever going to Rwanda, I don't care if its gold plated, diamond encrusted pu$$y, I ain't gonna be able to do it! Anyway, back to her looking for her document. Me knowing how a worried hoe can make for an unpleasant evening, I offered her the chance to go back to her apartment to look for it. She figured it was either there or at Help. At first she was leaning toward going to Help, then decided to check her apartment first. We chilled for a bit, then she started on some weird shit about wanting me to go dancing with her at Help later and we could get drinks yada yada ya. Well this was all a no brainer for me. Why would I go to Help and spend my money on drinks for her ass on top of what I was already paying her, wheeeeen, I could just stay here and fuck? Hmmm, I'll take option 2 please. She was really insistant though, to the point of being annoying. I'm like "Why the fuck do you want me to go to Help so bad? " After asking her like 3 times, she said some girl said something about me and she couldn't remember what it was, so she wanted me to go there so she could point me out to the girl and find out what it was? I was like, no, I'm not doing any stupid shit like that, that's childish. Then she started going off about how I MUST have something to hide, yada ya. I'm like, look, you better let this shit go or, we're gonna have a problem. THIS IS THE SECOND POINT AT WHICH I SHOULD HAVE KICKED HER ASS TO THE CURB. But, I didn't. We jumped in a cab to her apartment (this time, I didn't have the cabbie wait). She ended up finding her ID and all was well. For her. So now, I'm ready to flag down a cab to get back to the spot and start G'ing this ***** before I end up kicking her to the curb. So, I'm standing in a spot where all the cabs are coming by, the first few just happen to have people in them. But, she's pulling on me (in a playful manner mind you) trying to get me to walk toward Atlantic Ave. I'm like no, I'm not walking all the way up there. Then, I look at the street signs. This trick is trying to drag me to Help. I stopped and held firm. I said "If you want to go to Help, you go, I'm going to my apartment. I don't follow behind women and that was the first and last time you're going to raise your voice at me." She looked at me and her panties were so wet her eyes were watering! So, we get in the cab to my place and she's all apologetic and shit and I'm like Mmm hmm, yep, uhhh huh, just let me get your ass back to my crib and you're gonna get the same treatment as the last Viviane that got smart out of the mouth with me. Dumb ass broads. If it weren't for them, the game would just be soooo boring! So, we get to the crib and boom! It was on from the second the door slammed closed. I raised up that long ass sundress, threw her ass on the counter and just started tagging it! That was money! It was a great night after that. She wasn't really the aggressive type, a real pussycat, but did everything I wanted (didn't try the backdoor) and was very responsive. Something about this one that just left me wanting more; I think it was just her "normal" look. She actually had a pretty good personality beyond all the Help shit. Oh, by the way, after she had her second orgasm, I brought her a bottled water and she looked up at me and remembered what the other girl had told her about me. That I spoil girls and the girls don't want to leave when I'm finished. I smiled and said, "Aww, that's cool, but you're gonna have to get your ass outta here in a little bit baby! " Again, don't love these hoes too hard! No pics of Viviane, but, she was another great night of sex and a great lead in to my last full day in Rio! Obrigado for your attention till Day 7 homies!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Sunday: So, after Viviane and I eat breakfast, I kick her ass to the curb and check my phone which Sami had been blowin up all morning. The sun was out! Dude and Blk BigBootyLuvr had been out at the beach all morning and scoping out the local assets! I opened my blinds and sure as shit, the sun was beaming. It was like 1:30, so I needed to get there quick to get some time in before meeting Voyager1 at his hotel to link up for further "activities." Got to the beach after linking up with Sami at Meia Pataca and man, it was packed! The homie even had a beach chair waiting for me. Its good having bros to hang out with. So, we commenced (well, I joined in) on eyeing and commenting on the eye candy. Snapping the occasional picture. You guys should bug the shit out of Blk BigBootyLuvr because he's got all the beach pics! I bugged out to go meet up with Voyager1 at his hotel and we caught a taxi back to the beach spot. I did the intros and it was like all of us were long time friends. You know, its the monger way!

So, we're chillin', mindin' our own business, not bothering anyone when I look up and see this vision of beauty. You guys know I'm weak for the normal looking girls; of all the hot chicks on the beach with bikinis and hot, oiled up bodies, this girl wearing a full length sun dress with designer shades looked up and flashed the biggest smile. She caught my attention. Even more alluring was that she was with another guy. We exchanged glances and smiles and both gave each other a look like we knew each other. But, since she was with a guy, I did the respectful thing and turned away. So, I turn to my conscience (aka Sami), BBBL and Voyager1 (aka my advisor) and we start swapping opinions on her, then, moved on to the next one. After I got to thinking about it, I realized I did not know her at all. The fellas saw her stand up and walk away toward the street and commented on how she was a cutie. Then out of no where, she looks over at me and motions for me to call her. I shrug my shoulders that I don't have her number and she points to some tent and again says to call her. So, right about now, I'm thinking this girl is a few limes short of a Caipirinha. About 5 minutes later, some random European woman walks over and hands me the mystery girl's number. Her name was Viviane (no, not the same one as last night). I'm thinking, wow, this could get interesting.

Fuck her, on to bigger and better things. The sun was eclipsed by the clouds again, and it was getting chilly. So, we decided to get cleaned up and changed and head over to Vila Mimosa. We hit Sami and BBBL's spot first, really nice pad; maybe they'll post the link to it on here. Then, we hit my place, then Voyager's hotel, then jumped on the Metro at Siquera Campos station. Figured we'd eat some meat on a sticks and empanadas at VM for dinner. So, we get there pretty early, like 8pm and things were just starting to get jumping: they turned the music up, more girls started arriving, the cabbies started dropping off people. This was Voyager's show and tell, so, he took us around through all the nooks and crannies and let us know the ins and outs, price structure, etc. 25R gets you 45 minutes I think. The thing is, the place is pretty grimey. All the way around! Now, we walked to VM from the Metro, so, we had to go through "the hood" before we got to VM. This part made me a little nervous, just because it was my first time and I wasn't familiar with the area. After we got through that part, and into VM and I looked around and walked through the area, sat around and observed the people, I was good. I actually considered coming back on my own the next night (but didn't). We sat around and ate and drank for a couple of hours and then decided to go on the hunt. Blk BigBootyLuvr was the first to go down. He fell for an older girl with gorgeous tits hanging out of a mesh top as she sat in an elevated bar. We pretty much waited for him right outside of the bar. After him, Sami spotted an Asian looking girl with a hot ass body and snatched her up as she was walking into a bar. We walked around a bit as we waited on Sami. I was pretty resigned that I wouldn't find anything that just grabbed me even though I saw some great looking girls hanging out. I guess I just figured that they would be waaay too aggressive and ghetto and I didn't want to have a bad experience. That and I was a little apprehensive about what the "rooms" would look like for doing the deed! Well, as we were waiting for Sami, two slim hotties with nice, plump asses walked by and started browsing one of the vendors. I looked at them, and one in particular, then looked at Voyager and he was like "she got you, now go get her". I walked up behind her and asked her if she wanted to go with me. She looked me up and down and gave the biggest smile, grabbed my arm and said let's go! So, I represented! Her name was Monica and, turns out the other girl was her sister! I asked for her number but she said she didn't have a cell. In retrospect, I should have taken her and, maybe her sister for the night; probably could've gotten each for 150R. Oh well, maybe next time!

After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.

Well, I decided to call Viviane, the one from the beach and maybe save myself a trip to Help. Unfortunately for you, I am tired and my S. O. Is bitching, so I'll have to continue that part later. For now, enjoy the pics of Monica from VM!

Rodeo

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So, we're chillin', mindin' our own business, not bothering anyone when I look up and see this vision of beauty. You guys know I'm weak for the normal looking girls; of all the hot chicks on the beach with bikinis and hot, oiled up bodies, this girl wearing a full length sun dress with designer shades looked up and flashed the biggest smile. She caught my attention. Even more alluring was that she was with another guy. We exchanged glances and smiles and both gave each other a look like we knew each other. But, since she was with a guy, I did the respectful thing and turned away. So, I turn to my conscience (aka Sami), BBBL and Voyager1 (aka my advisor) and we start swapping opinions on her, then, moved on to the next one. After I got to thinking about it, I realized I did not know her at all. The fellas saw her stand up and walk away toward the street and commented on how she was a cutie. Then out of no where, she looks over at me and motions for me to call her. I shrug my shoulders that I don't have her number and she points to some tent and again says to call her. So, right about now, I'm thinking this girl is a few limes short of a Caipirinha. About 5 minutes later, some random European woman walks over and hands me the mystery girl's number. Her name was Viviane (no, not the same one as last night). I'm thinking, wow, this could get interesting.

Fuck her, on to bigger and better things. The sun was eclipsed by the clouds again, and it was getting chilly. So, we decided to get cleaned up and changed and head over to Vila Mimosa. We hit Sami and BBBL's spot first, really nice pad; maybe they'll post the link to it on here. Then, we hit my place, then Voyager's hotel, then jumped on the Metro at Siquera Campos station. Figured we'd eat some meat on a sticks and empanadas at VM for dinner. So, we get there pretty early, like 8pm and things were just starting to get jumping: they turned the music up, more girls started arriving, the cabbies started dropping off people. This was Voyager's show and tell, so, he took us around through all the nooks and crannies and let us know the ins and outs, price structure, etc. 25R gets you 45 minutes I think. The thing is, the place is pretty grimey. All the way around! Now, we walked to VM from the Metro, so, we had to go through "the hood" before we got to VM. This part made me a little nervous, just because it was my first time and I wasn't familiar with the area. After we got through that part, and into VM and I looked around and walked through the area, sat around and observed the people, I was good. I actually considered coming back on my own the next night (but didn't). We sat around and ate and drank for a couple of hours and then decided to go on the hunt. Blk BigBootyLuvr was the first to go down. He fell for an older girl with gorgeous tits hanging out of a mesh top as she sat in an elevated bar. We pretty much waited for him right outside of the bar. After him, Sami spotted an Asian looking girl with a hot ass body and snatched her up as she was walking into a bar. We walked around a bit as we waited on Sami. I was pretty resigned that I wouldn't find anything that just grabbed me even though I saw some great looking girls hanging out. I guess I just figured that they would be waaay too aggressive and ghetto and I didn't want to have a bad experience. That and I was a little apprehensive about what the "rooms" would look like for doing the deed! Well, as we were waiting for Sami, two slim hotties with nice, plump asses walked by and started browsing one of the vendors. I looked at them, and one in particular, then looked at Voyager and he was like "she got you, now go get her". I walked up behind her and asked her if she wanted to go with me. She looked me up and down and gave the biggest smile, grabbed my arm and said let's go! So, I represented! Her name was Monica and, turns out the other girl was her sister! I asked for her number but she said she didn't have a cell. In retrospect, I should have taken her and, maybe her sister for the night; probably could've gotten each for 150R. Oh well, maybe next time!

After I was done, we took a cab to Balcony Bar and had some more monger-sation with other dudes. I observed the difference in the women here vs. Meia Pataca. Again, this is my observation, not anything racially driven, and also based on what I was told by other mongers. Basically, the clientele here are mostly Europeans and/or caucasians who are looking for a "higher class" of girls than would be found at Meia Pataca. They also seek to avoid the raucus, in your face personalities of the many black mongers that tend to hang at Meia Pataca. To each his own. What I was also told (by a white guy) is that the girls at Balcony charge waaaay more there than at Meia Pataca, like 400-500+Reals! Funny, because some of the same girls can be found at Help or Meia Pataca at different times of the day for waaay less.

Well, I decided to call Viviane, the one from the beach and maybe save myself a trip to Help. Unfortunately for you, I am tired and my S. O. Is bitching, so I'll have to continue that part later. For now, enjoy the pics of Monica from VM!

Rodeo

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For those who prefer a bit more illustrative depiction of a monger's exploits, please use the links below to view my vids on zshare dot net. You know, as much as I plan to, I never get the girls as wild as I want them to on video. Lighting is crappy in some of the videos, but, well, you get the point. Turn up the volume, I've got some good background music going in some of them!

[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65277269517a8e89/]Angelica[/url] Video 1.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65277668e59bcdb3/]Angelica[/url] Video 2.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652774832ee41c8d/]Jamile[/url] Video 3.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65277518103fd7a9/]Jamile[/url] Video 2.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65277708cdcc6f95/]Jamile[/url] Video 1.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652776796b295fc6/]Jamile[/url] Video 4.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65277729b778442d/]Mayara[/url] Video 2.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652779550c3f29e0/]Mayara[/url] Video 3.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652782928f70ab2f/]Mayara[/url] Video 1.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652784405eba6216/]Julianna[/url] Video1.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/65278373999e81ea/]Julianna[/url] Video2.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/6527834174ec876b/]Julianna[/url] Video3.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/6527788238e2a00f/]Raica[/url] Video.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/652779869a15d943/]Unknown[/url] Video.MOV
[url]http://www.zshare.net/video/6527929898e6bb88/]Doris[/url] Video.MOV

One more left that I'll post after I give the Day 7 report.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]LOL, OMG just when you thought you heard it all after all of my years going to Rio I never even thought of going up there to VM seem like I haven't miss anything.
[/QUOTE]

Yeh, next time I want to travel 7,000 miles to have cheap sex in a crackhouse I'll keep VM in mind. Think I'll stick with the pricier Termas, boites, & agencies. Prefer to do my pooning with a touch of class.

"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK

[b]Moving Day[/b]
Today was moving day. A buddy of mine flew into Rio from San Francisco, so I had to move out of my 1-bedroom apartment in Posto 2 of Copacabana and move into a 2-bedroom apartment in Posto 9 of Ipanema. After checking out of the Copa apartment, we cabbed it to the Ipanema apartment. I've never stayed in Ipanema before. Petra from Riobayhousing.com shows us the apartment. Holy crap - so modern, with a gas heater! Bye bye, electric shower. Ha. Whoa, no street noise whatsoever? Now I can finally sleep like a baby in Rio. Great location in relation to the beach too - only 5 blocks from Caesar Park Hotel.

[b]Termas Monte Carlo[/b]
Once we got settled in, my buddy J took a nap. Since today was Tuesday and free cabine day at Monte Carlo (with coupon), I decided to head there around 5p. I took the bus from Ipanema which dropped me off at NS Copacabana/Siqueira Campos, so only 1 block away from MC. I handed the front desk ladies the promotion coupon and hit the showers. I got into the boite at 5:15p and there were only 6 guys and about 12 girls. I bought a drink and chilled. Talked to a couple of girls but nobody really caught my eye. By 6p, there were 10 guys and 22 girls. Only one girl in the room I considered sessioning with, but she was busy. I ended up leaving and just paying the cover of R$60 + my drink.

[b]Termas Luomo[/b]
For dinner, J and I headed to a little sushi place called Yuuki in Ipanema. Great little place - the owner is a pretty hot Carioca too. After dinner, we took the bus to Luomo and arrived at 10:15p. There were about 4-6 guys and maybe 15 girls. J ended up sessioning with a garota named Raessa. She had one of the cutest faces I've ever seen in a Terma girl. J said she was a good lay, but he doesn't like to kiss these girls for "fear of falling in love". Ha. To each his own. Meanwhile, I bounced around the boite and the relax room. Nobody really caught my interest. Near closing time, Lunah the blonde from the other night sat down and had a drink with me. I didn't end up sessioning with her though. J and I took off around midnight and he paid R$270 excluding drinks, while I paid my R$60 + drinks.

All in all, an uneventful day for me mongering-wise. I made dinner plans to meet up tomorrow with a garota that used to work at 4x4 but is no longer in the business. I will adhere to the rule a wise man on this message board once said, [color=blue]"Use the 50/100"[/color] rule,ie, [color=red]50% chance she'll flake and 100% chance she'll be late.[/color]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]TAKE NOTE, HERE'S WHERE THINGS START GETTING WEIRD!

[/QUOTE]

Wow, though your report seems that it may be funny, those run on sentences and lack of paragraph breaks just kill me.
Can't get thru it.

Glad you're having fun though ... :)

Rodeo9112,

WOW! Loving your work Rodeo! Good to see vids from a report! Thanks mate!

Rodeo9112,

thanks for the videos, but it is a pity that lightining in some video, is almost zero, why ? As I can understand in termas lightining is low, but about the video you played in your apartment, why you just did not turn on light ?

However the way Julianna blow job seems very interesting ;) and body of Jamile is amazing nice, for me perfect !

Thanks.

P.S. which songs are in the video ?

[QUOTE=Ricker]Wow, though your report seems that it may be funny, those run on sentences and lack of paragraph breaks just kill me.
Can't get thru it.

Glad you're having fun though ... :)[/QUOTE]Are you serious dude?! Man, get with the program. This forum is for sharing info on boning broads; I already turned in my thesis and got my Master's degree; when I start my PhD next year, I'll crack open my grammar book again. On here, I write like one of the bros in a bar telling a story. Sorry if your delicate sensibilities can't handle a little toilet grammar; have fun fucking bitches though!

Ya boy,

Rodeo

I have been traveling to Rio since 1986, and during these past 6 years I became friends with a Help regular. Whenever I am in Rio, we always spend a few days together, and she never charges me in money, although I pay her in many other ways ie. Gifts, perfumes from the US, nice meals, . You get the picture. Over the past two years, I really developed a very special feeling for her, and I felt maybe she is the 1 in a million. Being that she has been going to Help for 6 years should have been a HUGE red flag for me! Well, over the past few weeks, I, for the first time told her how much she truly means to me. Three times in the past 4 weeks, she has requested money from me for various problems with her and her families life. She had never requested anything from me in the past. Just last Friday, she very calmly requested 1000 dollars. I responded by telling her that I thought she was different from the rest, but now I realize that she is not. She responded by calling me an idiot, and I am not to bother her anymore. Some of these girls will work on a gringo for years, especially ones that visit often, and when they think the time is right, they will go right for the "jugular" or should I say "wallet".

[QUOTE=Ricker]Wow, though your report seems that it may be funny, those run on sentences and lack of paragraph breaks just kill me.

Can't get thru it.

Glad you're having fun though ... :)[/QUOTE]Another unnecessary critique of an innocent monger having fun. This is not an english class! No one as time to run grammar check for you Ricker. Many of us are grateful Rodeo took time out f=to do a report. And this time there was no racial overtones. That's rare here.

[QUOTE=Ricker]Wow, though your report seems that it may be funny, those run on sentences and lack of paragraph breaks just kill me.
Can't get thru it.

Glad you're having fun though ... :)[/QUOTE]You could've kept the negativity to yourself!

[QUOTE=Johnath12]Rodeo9112,

WOW! Loving your work Rodeo! Good to see vids from a report! Thanks mate![/QUOTE]I didn't know that was allowed. But thanks for the video.

Yeah Luka, I suck at filming, I'll admit it! I get so caught up in the moment, I forget my obligation to the fans and just focus on my own greedy needs! I just need to get it in my head that "I need to fuck with the lights on!" My next trip to DomRep will definitely incorporate some booty shaking. Uh, I don't remember what songs were there. I don't really wanna go back through all the videos, sorry.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Rodeo9112,

thanks for the videos, but it is a pity that lightining in some video, is almost zero, why ? As I can understand in termas lightining is low, but about the video you played in your apartment, why you just did not turn on light ?

However the way Julianna blow job seems very interesting ;) and body of Jamile is amazing nice, for me perfect !

Thanks.

P.S. which songs are in the video ?[/QUOTE]

[b]4x4[/b]
Today I had plans to meet an ex-terma girl for dinner, so I had to get some afternoon action going at 4x4. I had lunch with my buddy J, who didn't want to go to 4x4 because he fears Centro for some reason, and then took the Metro subway to 4x4, arriving at 4p. I was definitely intent on the "early bird special" today, ie, session before 5p to get the R$40 cover waived. After a quick shower, I headed to the boite. At 4:15p there were 8 guys and 35-40 girls line up all along the walls. Talk about a great ratio!

I kept making eye contact off and on with a beautiful garota, then she finally motioned me to sit down with her. So I complied and found her name was Anjelica. She had a very petite frame, with a perfect bunda. After chatting for a bit, a couple of her friends came by - Annabelle and Adriana. I wasn't really thrilled to know that she ran with those 2 girls. I just get a bad vibe from them, maybe because Annabelle was one of the worst sessions I've ever had in Rio. And Adriana just comes off as so cold and stuck up. Anyway, I ended up agreeing with Anjelica on a 40-minute session since I needed to get back to the apartment for dinner.

In the cabine, the session was very good. I would rate it a 9/10, as it was one of those sessions where you think "yeah, I'd repeat with this girl" while it was going on. This girl spoke some decent English and could be somebody I'd like to hang out with. Only thing is there were a few red flags - Movado watch, IPhone, and owns a car. I usually prefer those that come from modest means and don't own a lot of flashy stuff. Flashy stuff indicates a "player" who may be getting these things from other mongers. Anyway, just a gut feeling I have. She could have just as well bought all that stuff herself. I got her number and may session with her again before my trip is over. I left 4x4 by 5:30p and paid R$190.

[b]Flake City[/b]
After getting home and showering, I get a message from the garota I was supposed to meet for dinner that she couldn't make it. Some ridiculous excuse that I don't want to really get into, but it literally came an hour after I talked to her on the phone when she confirmed that she was getting ready to head over. Oh well, it ain't the first time a garota's flaked on me and surely won't be the last time. I already had a plan B in mind anyway, which was to take J to Solarium.

[b]Solarium[/b]
We got to Solarium at 9:30p. There were about 30 girls and 20 guys. I was looking for the blondie from the other 2 nights that I have yet to try. I asked one of the girls there if Erica was there and she said she wasn't working tonight. Damn. I was set on sessioning with her tonight. After about an hour, J and I didn't really find anybody we wanted so we decided to leave. We paid the R$65 cover and called it a night.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]For those who prefer a bit more illustrative depiction of a monger's exploits, please use the links below to view my vids on zshare dot net. You know, as much as I plan to, I never get the girls as wild as I want them to on video. Lighting is crappy in some of the videos, but, well, you get the point. Turn up the volume, I've got some good background music going in some of them![/QUOTE]
I heard the "unknown" girl tell you no, no, no, no.
Had the R. Kelly playing in the background. Boy youze a FREAK!

Gents,

I wonder if you can help. I'm thinking of going to RJ in October. I prefer using agencies as opposed to incalls and clubs since I only speak Dutch and English.

So anyway, I mailed an agency called 'bellaspacompanhantes' to see what they would charge for me to spend 3 days with a girl and their response was 900USD per day!

Am I right in thinking this is extortionate? Would a request in Portuguese have made a difference?

Also, if anyone knows how I can go about getting someone long term (3 - 7 days), I'd appreciate the info.

[QUOTE=Billy Irani]So anyway, I mailed an agency called 'bellaspacompanhantes' to see what they would charge for me to spend 3 days with a girl and their response was 900USD per day!
Am I right in thinking this is extortionate?[/QUOTE]
It's a major rip-off.

3 days makes US$ 2700, equal to R$ 5000. That could give you 200 girls at VM. :D

[QUOTE=Sperto]It's a major rip-off.

3 days makes US$ 2700, equal to R$ 5000. That could give 200 girls at VM. :D[/QUOTE]Hey Sperto,

Touché!! Damn, I think I need to learn some Porto superfast or else my holiday is going to consist solely of sight seeing because there's no way I'm paying that much.

So, what's this VM then?

I checked out Rodeo's vids and just realized that the Angelica in his vids and his earlier Day 1 report, is the same girl I had yesterday. Of course, his pics and vids paint a better picture than my words!
[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]4x4[/b]
I kept making eye contact off and on with a beautiful garota, then she finally motioned me to sit down with her. So I complied and found her name was Anjelica. She had a very petite frame, with a perfect bunda. After chatting for a bit, a couple of her friends came by - Annabelle and Adriana. I wasn't really thrilled to know that she ran with those 2 girls. I just get a bad vibe from them, maybe because Annabelle was one of the worst sessions I've ever had in Rio. And Adriana just comes off as so cold and stuck up. Anyway, I ended up agreeing with Anjelica on a 40-minute session since I needed to get back to the apartment for dinner.

In the cabine, the session was very good. I would rate it a 9/10, as it was one of those sessions where you think "yeah, I'd repeat with this girl" while it was going on...
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Another unnecessary critique of an innocent monger having fun. This is not an english class! No one as time to run grammar check for you Ricker. Many of us are grateful Rodeo took time out f=to do a report. And this time there was no racial overtones. That's rare here.[/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with you - glad that Rodeo kept out the racist comments and observations this time around. Certainly no need for it.

But remember - this is an open forum and if a subscriber wants to critique someone's report or self-promoting writing style they are certainly entitled to.

[QUOTE=Scotob]I have been traveling to Rio since 1986, and during these past 6 years I became friends with a Help regular. Whenever I am in Rio, we always spend a few days together, and she never charges me in money, although I pay her in many other ways ie. Gifts, perfumes from the US, nice meals, . You get the picture. Over the past two years, I really developed a very special feeling for her, and I felt maybe she is the 1 in a million. Being that she has been going to Help for 6 years should have been a HUGE red flag for me! Well, over the past few weeks, I, for the first time told her how much she truly means to me. Three times in the past 4 weeks, she has requested money from me for various problems with her and her families life. She had never requested anything from me in the past. Just last Friday, she very calmly requested 1000 dollars. I responded by telling her that I thought she was different from the rest, but now I realize that she is not. She responded by calling me an idiot, and I am not to bother her anymore. Some of these girls will work on a gringo for years, especially ones that visit often, and when they think the time is right, they will go right for the "jugular" or should I say "wallet".[/QUOTE]Very good example..Paragraph of a day in the life of a GDP unfortunetly old saying true give them an inch and they'll take a mile!

You can play them at their own game but give into anything and its all about the $£$£

[QUOTE=Billy Irani]Also, if anyone knows how I can go about getting someone long term (3. 7 days), I'd appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]I'm more of a short-time guy myself, but I've spoken with some of the independent gals from Hotside.com. Br who have given me the option for long time (a couple of days to a week or more).communication might be a problem if you speak very little Portuguese. Some of the ladies speak English well.

Other than that. If you have good social skills I doubt you'll have much problem meeting a gal in Rio and arranging something long-term assuming you find someone you have good chemistry with.

DSK

[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]Another unnecessary critique of an innocent monger having fun. This is not an english class! No one as time to run grammar check for you Ricker. Many of us are grateful Rodeo took time out f=to do a report. And this time there was no racial overtones. That's rare here.[/QUOTE]
Don't be to hard on him. I only think he meant that the 43 (?) line paragraph was a bit hard to read.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Are you serious dude?! Man, get with the program. This forum is for sharing info on boning broads; I already turned in my thesis and got my Master's degree; when I start my PhD next year, I'll crack open my grammar book again. On here, I write like one of the bros in a bar telling a story. Sorry if your delicate sensibilities can't handle a little toilet grammar; have fun fucking bitches though!

Ya boy,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]Rodeo (and Jamacianceo),

Not sure why you are so confrontational and defensive. The guy actually paid you a compliment in his message as well as slightly complained about your run-on writing style. He was simply suggesting a few page breaks would have made it a more enjoyable reading experience for him (and all of us. It would be easier to read and not lose your place in the long story.) He obviously was into what you were writing. And Rodeo. Aren't you looking for as many "fans" (your word. Not mine) here as possible? There are a lot of new people coming here looking for useful info for their first experiences. You have provided them with some. Leave it at that. This is an open forum for everyone.

[QUOTE=Billy Irani]Hey Sperto,

Touché!! Damn, I think I need to learn some Porto superfast or else my holiday is going to consist solely of sight seeing because there's no way I'm paying that much.

So, what's this VM then?[/QUOTE]A good place to start research is the Bubba Boy Reports thread here. Also google Bwana Dik Rio report. Will give you tons of great info.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Are you serious dude?! Man, get with the program. This forum is for sharing info on boning broads; I already turned in my thesis and got my Master's degree; when I start my PhD next year, I'll crack open my grammar book again. On here, I write like one of the bros in a bar telling a story. Sorry if your delicate sensibilities can't handle a little toilet grammar; have fun fucking bitches though!

Ya boy,

Rodeo[/QUOTE]


Ok baby, I get your drift. Keep on typing! Great reports! Fun Videos! Thanks.

Disculpa por favor my 'delicate sensibilities' and 'negativity'.
Truth is, I've been on this ISG for many years, and every major forum takes on it's on personality.
I kind of butted in on your style in Rio.

Think I'll run back to Sao Paulo and Colombia were I belong.

Good luck with 'boning broads' and the PhD ... :)

Ya boy,

Ricker

[QUOTE=Hughdad]Rodeo (and Jamacianceo),

Not sure why you are so confrontational and defensive. The guy actually paid you a compliment in his message as well as slightly complained about your run-on writing style. He was simply suggesting a few page breaks would have made it a more enjoyable reading experience for him (and all of us. It would be easier to read and not lose your place in the long story.) He obviously was into what you were writing. And Rodeo. Aren't you looking for as many "fans" (your word. Not mine) here as possible? There are a lot of new people coming here looking for useful info for their first experiences. You have provided them with some. Leave it at that. This is an open forum for everyone.[/QUOTE]You are right.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Sperto]Don't be to hard on him. I only think he meant that the 43 (?) line paragraph was a bit hard to read.[/QUOTE]You are right.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Sperto]Don't be to hard on him. I only think he meant that the 43 (?) line paragraph was a bit hard to read.[/QUOTE]

Yes please guys, don't be too hard on me. I really am a sensitive cat.

Besides, I retract the post, and will keep my writing style comments to myself ... I promise.

Hey, kinda like that congressman who yelled "liar" at Obama, and later apologized :)

Guys, you got to see this Help-video.

"Bonuspoints" to Mangera for reporting the video the first time.

(all you guys who have been to Rio, this is really funny :-)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]

Cheers, Ken Apples

[QUOTE=Ken_Apples]Guys, you got to see this Help-video.
"Bonuspoints" to Mangera for reporting the video the first time.
(all you guys who have been to Rio, this is really funny :-)
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VBlaromJY[/url]
Cheers, Ken Apples[/QUOTE]
That video is truly good.
Don't forget to give bonuspoints to Josechung and Ryjerrob as well. ;)

[QUOTE=Ricker]Yes please guys, don't be too hard on me. I really am a sensitive cat.

Besides, I retract the post, and will keep my writing style comments to myself ... I promise.

Hey, kinda like that congressman who yelled "liar" at Obama, and later apologized :)[/QUOTE]
Dude, just keep doing what you are doing, and how you do it. Your intentions are good and most importantly, your reports are accurate.

Your reports are about facts along with some helpful info. regardless of the city, country, culture and/or situation. I know my fair share of Medellin as well, and all of your reports and opinions/suggestions have been right on. So just keep doing what you are doing, including giving some constructive criticism.

Side note-I truly love and enjoy Medellin and its colombianas ( they are definitely a special breed), but my heart is in Brasil. I am glad you have been able to experience both plenty such as myself. And please don't hesitate to continue your reports in the same fashion. Ate logo!

[b][color=blue]Day 8[/color][/b]
J and I had a Corcovado tour scheduled in the morning but it was so cloudy that we rescheduled it for the next day.
We didn't do a whole lot during the day, so we took a bus to Copacabana to eat at Amir Restaurant. Good Mediterranean food, especially their lamb chops.

[b]Termas Solarium[/b]
After dinner, we took a bus from Copa to Solarium. We arrived at about 8p. I hit the showers and went to the boite. Considering how many times I have been to Solarium this week alone, I think Thursday night is peak night. There were about 25 guys and 50 girls crammed in that little boite. The blondie, Erica, that I've been trying to session with was not there yet again. So this time, I sat with another blonde named Melanie. Pretty girl - her face kind of reminds me of Bridget Wilson (Pete Sampras' wife). She's a good kisser and a very nice, playful girl. After about 30 minutes of getting to know each other in the boite, we tried to get a 40-minute cabine. She said because there were so many people, we had to wait another 20 minutes. So we went back to the boite and had another drink...

We finally got into the cabine after the 20-minute wait. The session was good - I'd say 8.25/10. Slow and intimate tempo, more on the love making side than wild sex. Afterwards, I got her number and will probably try to call her up this weekend.

Once I returned to the boite, my friend J was not around. He ended up sessioning with Suzanna - the stunning brunette with the fake tits that I had chatted with earlier in the week. He said she was good, but didn't kiss her or anything. He doesn't like to kiss these GDP's. J didn't really mention any other details except Suzanna had worked in Spain and made bank, something like 200 Euro an hour, and has a goal of doing 5 programas a day. Good luck to her in achieving those lofty goals.

We finally left Solarium at 11p. J and I each paid R$285 excluding drinks.

[b]Shenanigan's[/b]
Tonight was the NFL season opener, so we needed to get our NFL fill. Seems like our options were JW Marriot, Mudbug's, or Shenanigan's. Since we were staying in Ipanema, Shenanigan's it was. Pretty cool little Irish bar - R$5 cover. Some very cute Brazilian waitresses there too. They were playing the US Open on 2 TV's and the Titans/Steelers game on the other 2 TV's. Surprisingly, I didn't see one Gringo tourist there - just some Europeans and Brazilians hanging out. After the game ended, we called it a night.

[b][color=green]Day 9[/color][/b]
J and I got up early to go on the Corcovado tour. The weather was better today, with the sun showing itself about 70% of the time. Of course, once we got up to Christ The Redeemer statue, it was mostly cloudy. Luckily, there was a small window where it cleared up and we got some decent photos.

[b]Caesar Park[/b]
We headed to Posto 9 in front of Caesar Park at around 3p. Personally, I always thought GDP's hanging out in this area was an Urban Legend as I had never really seen any out here. That was until today. J and I got some beach chairs and happened to be sitting within an earshot of 3 Gringo tourists. One guy was chatting it up with a group of pudgy Irish girls situated next to us. They seemed pretty disinterested and it was entertaining to watch. Later 3 garotas come and situate themselves about 10 feet from us. One of them walks over to the group of 3 Gringos and introduces herself. I get up and throw away my drink and pass by the other two garotas, who say "Ola, tudo bom?". I just smiled and said "Sim, bom" and walked back to observe. Less than 5 minutes later, the GDP that was talking to the 3 Gringos gets up and walks off the beach holding hands with one of the Gringos. They headed across the street to his hotel or apartment. So now I am a believer, ie, I finally had witnessed some GDP action on this Posto, albeit these garotas were not much to look at. I'd say they were maybe 6.25/10 in looks. In retrospect, I should have talked to the other 2 garotas just to see what they think their market value is. I will be back on this beach on Sunday, so I will try to get a gauge of their asking prices if I happen to see some GDP's again.

[b]Rio Scenarium[/b]
J and I took the 571 bus from Ipanema to Lapa, getting off right after the bus passes the Arcos Do Lapa (Arches of Lapa). We ate at a restaurant called Mangue Seco, which had good, inexpensive food with excellent service. The pastel de camaron, which is a crispy pastry dish filled with shrimp, was especially tasty, and highly recommended. After eating, we got into Rio Scenarium at around 10:30p. The line was short, about a 5-minute wait. It was busy tonight, but not as many gorgeous women as there were last Friday. We hung out till about midnight and paid the R$25 cover plus whatever for drinks, and took the 464 bus back to Ipanema. I felt like ordering in, so I went on Karla Model's website and it said 9a-12a. Weird, for some reason I thought they opened till like 2am. Oh well, I'm not a Help guy, so I called it a night.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]We headed to Posto 9 in front of Caesar Park at around 3p. Personally, I always thought GDP's hanging out in this area was an Urban Legend as I had never really seen any out here. That was until today... So now I am a believer, ie, I finally had witnessed some GDP action on this Posto, albeit these garotas were not much to look at.[/QUOTE]
Azn, very nice reports. You are obviously having a good time.

Did you mean in front of Caesar Park or in front of Posto 9? Quite different people hanging out at these two places. GPs in the Ipanema beach usually choose two work in front of Caesar Park. If they head to Posto 9 it's propably just for smoking pot.

BTW, don't miss a stroll in front of Posto 9. Lot's of beautiful babes. :D
[QUOTE=Azn Safado][Surprisingly, I didn't see one Gringo tourist there - just some Europeans and Brazilians hanging out.[/QUOTE]
Europeans are not gringos? ;)

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Surprisingly, I didn't see one Gringo tourist there - just some Europeans and Brazilians hanging out.[/QUOTE]
In Brasil a gringo is anyone whose "brasilianess" is not established. Brasilians make no differences between europeans or north americans. For them even other south-americans are gringos. I often heard "gringo" being applied to argentinians, colombians or chilians.

Even africans are usually called gringos. Nonetheless asians are always called "chines" or "japas", wherever they come from, and arabs or persians "libanes". Which is really weird.

Brasilians are VERY unworldly-wise people. True burros I'd say.

I'm going to be 59 yo in a couple months. I've been going to the Dominican Republic recently to monger and haven't had any problem I am gray haired and over weight, but I do dress well and personable. I don't flash my cash nor do I present myself as a wealthy guy. I am thinking of taking the long flight from Chicago to Brazil solo. Before doing so, I need to have some kind of inner assurance I will be safe, ( I am an experienced traverler in hot spots), and I will be able to score without a jacked up price and without much difficulty only due to my age.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Brasilians are VERY unworldly-wise people. True burros I'd say.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of when the US presidential election was taking place and a friend of mine in Rio was swearing Obama was muslim and arab.

[QUOTE=Prosal]Brasilians are VERY unworldly-wise people. True burros I'd say.[/QUOTE]
"True burro" is also the definition for a person who feels a strong hostility against a country and still keeps going there (or at least engaging himself in a forum doing nothing but criticizing the country).
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=92602[/url]

[QUOTE=Sperto]"True burro" is also the definition for a person who feels a strong hostility against a country and still keeps going there (or at least engaging himself in a forum doing nothing but criticizing the country).[/QUOTE]
Oh well, once more Mollah Sperto in his best role. Censor. The first to jump on anyone who dares offering about brasilians another perspective from the usual one of the friendly, smart, cultured, honest, trustworthy and sincere people, or dares risking himself to talk about the dark sides of Brasil.

So, according to you, brasilians ARE worldly-wise people ? ROFLMAO

Anyhow, yeah, I know pretty well this country, and post about it since the pre-ISG days, when Jackson revived the original Atta's WSG site. Nonetheless I admittedly don't see it through pink-tinted glasses. It's a country which is great for the libido and the ego, but is far from the paradise that the daydreamers and other blind believers promote. In any case, believe me, it's not the flames and the censures of a taliban-like obtuse, biggoted and obviously pretty stupid flag-waver like you that will prevent myself to post here.

You should broaden your horizons and travel a bit BTW. You don't seem more worldly-wise than your beloved brasilian people. I'm pretty sure that if I'd tell you about things like the fantastic ethnic mixes in Georgia or Uzbekistan or the physical features of Sundanese women in Indonesia I'd get the same stare than if I'd talk of quantic physics to my dog.

:rolleyes:

I highly suggest you read Bubba Boy's pdf from cover to cover!
Termas & Agency Outcall are a fixed price, learn some Portuguese and you will do just mine with the freelance GDP's.


[QUOTE=Fuddzie]Before doing so, I need to have some kind of inner assurance I will be safe, ( I am an experienced traverler in hot spots), and I will be able to score without a jacked up price and without much difficulty only due to my age.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prosal]Oh well, once more Molla Sperto in his best role. Censor. The first to jump on anyone who dares offering about brasilians another perspective from the usual one of the friendly, smart, cultured, honest, trustworthy and sincere people, or dares risking himself to talk about the dark sides of Brasil.

So, according to you, brasilians ARE worldly-wise people ? ROFLMAO

Anyhow, yeah, I know pretty well this country, and post about it since the pre-ISG days, when Jackson revived the original Atta's site. Nonetheless I admittedly don't see it through pink-tinted glasses. It's a country which is great for the libido and the ego, but is far from the paradise that the daydreamers and other blind believers promote. In any case, believe me, it's not the flames and the censures of a taliban-like obtuse, biggoted and obviously pretty stupid flag-waver like you that will prevent myself to post here.

You should broaden your horizons and travel a bit BTW. You don't seem more worldly-wise than your beloved brasilian people. I'm pretty sure that if I'd tell you about things like the fantastic ethnic mixes in Georgia or Uzbekistan or the physical features of Sundanese women in Indonesia I'd get the same stare than if I'd talk of quantic physics to my dog.

:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Prosal -- Maybe you should stick to discussing topics you know something about, which would result in you not posting here or for that matter anywhere. You also might want to expand your reading list. For starters maybe try:

[url]http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Physics-Dummies-Math-Science/dp/0470381884/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252769235&sr=8-1[/url]

Sperto certainly is capable of defending himself, but he shouldn't have to. He provides more useful information in one post than you have in all your posts combined. While I might not always agree with him, his choice of locations or women, he does inform.

Your sole purpose here seems to be in putting down Brazil and Brazilians. Like any country, there is good and there is bad. However, a little lesson in investing - if you had bet on the unworldly Brazilians starting say three years ago or even as recent as 3 months ago, you would have come out quite well.

I meant the GDP sightings were in front of Caesar Park which I thought was still part of Posto 9.

For some reason, I always thought Gringo meant "American" in Spanish. What I meant by Gringo in the context of my report was a person from the U.S., which is a bit too narrow in scope for the term I guess.

[QUOTE=Sperto]Azn, very nice reports. You are obviously having a good time.

Did you mean in front of Caesar Park or in front of Posto 9? Quite different people hanging out at these two places. GPs in the Ipanema beach usually choose two work in front of Caesar Park. If they head to Posto 9 it's propably just for smoking pot.

BTW, don't miss a stroll in front of Posto 9. Lot's of beautiful babes. :D

Europeans are not gringos? ;)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Reminds me of when the US presidential election was taking place and a friend of mine in Rio was swearing Obama was muslim and arab.[/QUOTE

Hey..... probably got that from fox news which you can get on cable in brazil!!!!!

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]I'm going to be 59 yo in a couple months. I've been going to the Dominican Republic recently to monger and haven't had any problem I am gray haired and over weight, but I do dress well and personable. I don't flash my cash nor do I present myself as a wealthy guy. I am thinking of taking the long flight from Chicago to Brazil solo. Before doing so, I need to have some kind of inner assurance I will be safe, ( I am an experienced traverler in hot spots), and I will be able to score without a jacked up price and without much difficulty only due to my age.[/QUOTE]
When I took my first trip to Brazil I was 55. I am now in my mid-60s and have been to Rio a total of 12 times, and I plan to keep coming back until I am drooling in my oatmeal in a nursing home. You should not be concerned about safety as long as you use common sense, just as I hope you would in any large city. Be conscious of your surroundings at all times; don't walk down dark streets alone at night; don't walk on the beach at night; don't get too drunk; never accept a drink from anyone else; don't show money in public; don't wear expensive jewelry or show expensive cameras in public. If you would normally carry your gear in a tote bag, don't; this will make you a target for a snatch and grab. Use a plastic bag from a supermarket instead. Better yet, wear cargo pants with a lot of pockets and put your camera and stuff in there. Use a money belt instead of a wallet. Carry a small amount of money in your pocket, say R50, to satisfy robbers in the unlikely event that you are robbed at gun or knife point. Not essential, but it's probably best to take taxis everywhere at night in Copa. None of these precautions is foolproof, but it should make the probability of your having a safe trip extremely high.

Regarding jacked up prices, your age should have absolutely nothing to do with that. GDPs think all gringos are rich, and they will try to play you for a sucker accordingly. RTFF and see what the going rates are, then don't pay more than that. If you can't reach an accommodation with a GDP, walk away. Never, ever pay in advance. If you bring a GDP back to your apartment or hotel, don't pay her until she is ready to leave. If she insists on being paid first, show her the door. If you frequent the termas you will never have to worry about this, because the prices are fixed.

So stop hesitating and book your trip. You'll have a great time.

Lorenzo

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Reminds me of when the US presidential election was taking place and a friend of mine in Rio was swearing Obama was muslim and arab.[/QUOTE]
Hell, a lot of dumb-assed Americans believe that too. There are no national boundaries on stupidity.

[QUOTE=Prosal]

Brasilians are VERY unworldly-wise people. True burros I'd say.[/QUOTE]

"Unworldly-wise???" Man, it takes guts to call others--let alone an entire nationality--burros using language like that.

Truth is, there are lots of burros in the US, and everywhere. And they seem to love to show it on the internet.

Here I am, to try to make feel here with my reports from Rio, the ones that sit down at their own home.

Shortly, I did not have to be here, as I had to go to Tashkent, Uzbekistan, but I got back pain 2 days before to go and I lost the chance to taste Uzbek pussy. Then 3 days ago I got almost totally recovered and I was able to bullshit my boss at work, telling him I need to go to warm place to get totally healthy....so here I am, I arrived yesterday via madrid with Iberia, good price, 575 euro, but not much amenities on the board, only 3 movies and neither nice.

When I hit copa was 19:20 so all the travel agency in praia lido where I was used to change money, where already closed, I did not want to change at airport at too low rate, so I tried ATM at banco do brazil a bit in worry, cause my dick was in need of soon money, read pussy LOL.

Difference from january, it worked with all my 4 cards and I went out with 2.000 reais and this made me feel much better as I was sure if I saw some good food, my dick got nice dinner.

Once in hotel, I thought to take shower, sleep a bit, have a dinner and go out.....After 20 minutes I was already inside Montecarlo as I did only shower....yes, I can eat at my home place food :)

I was too tired, jet lag did not help me, I was up almost 24 hours, so even if I was horny, I was not sure I could have a great session, however Montecarlo was packed, neither free place to sit down and I saw no one of the girls I saw in march, however some 8' and many 6,5', none 9 or above.

I drunk my sprite and went to terraco atlantico, without no sex at all, just a chit chat with some girls.

In front of Help even if it was friday evening, it was very slow about midnight, I can say on monday evening in january much more persons than yesterday and no new girls, the same old faces....not good.

Inside it was, even at 1:00 am half empty, considering it was already weekend and no one girls really inspired me to spend money, that btw seems to be 400 reais, quickly down to 300 with 2 girls I asked.

I drunk only caipirinha, but I was so tired that I had the feeling I did not walk inside the disco, but just flying....at sea level ;)

Then I was almost sure it was a first day with no sex...yes my dick started to get pissed off....I decided to check a place that even if I neither took girl,too expensive, but has nice stuff....Barbarella.....

To make long short.....WOOOOOOOW!!!!

They wanted to charge me 80 reais, that I got immediately down to 60 reais, cause I told them, it is late night or 60 or I go and hey, it worked, even if maybe I got only the non gringo price. Good enough I saw my portuguese was even better than last time....Pimsleur works good LOL

Inside I neither had time to sit down that a girl approached me....petite thin brunette from porto alegre......there was immediately chemistry as we touched softly with almost no conversation and she kissed me...I though, ok with this expensive place, maybe it is normal....the conversation then was nice, but nothing special....special was the way she kissed me.....and the fact that after half hour she still ordered nothing to drink.....when I offer her to buy a drink, she said, wait and she came back with a glass of water...very good sign !!!!

I asked how much for how much time..she said, the girls here want 500 reais and I said, they can ask whatever they want......you ? She said 300 reais and I said, I arrived today, I have only 200 reais....she said no and I was almost happy as I was always more tired, but I kept on kissing her, as it is free LOL

After a bit, she suddendly said, ok for 200 and obviously I start the usual questions about what she likes in sex and she said, me gosta todo de todo..........let's go I replied !!!

It was a very good sessione, specially cause I was very surprised I cum twice, first in shower with her on her knees bj me with cif.....so good !

And then on the bed, with no anal, as I was too tired and lazy to go to search in the suitcase where the fuck I put the lube, as without it she said it little hurts her and I am not big dick man....nevermind.

However I let her go away and I check the time I woke up, I mean I started my travel 32 hours before......shit, when I realized this, I close the door and I slept as a child.

So with a bit of luck even in the turist rip off place it is possible to get very good experience at very good price.

Today all the day at the beach, about =28C., very pleasent weather and sun, posto 9 packed with a lot of pussy, but I slept even at the beach LOL.

To tomorrow dear friends when it will arrive my bro from NY, cause even if I have no problem to stay alone, there is nothing better than to meet with a bro, from this forum btw, whom last time I had really a lot of fun and btw, he is the one who showed me termas.....dear one, I owe you more than one beers :)

Suerteee

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Prosal -- However, a little lesson in investing - if you had bet on the unworldly Brazilians starting say three years ago or even as recent as 3 months ago, you would have come out quite well.[/QUOTE]Well stated, and so true.

[QUOTE=Mangera] ... Side note-I truly love and enjoy Medellin and its colombianas ( they are definitely a special breed), but my heart is in Brasil. I am glad you have been able to experience both plenty such as myself. And please don't hesitate to continue your reports in the same fashion. Ate logo![/QUOTE]

Thanks amigo.

I´ll tell ya what, I too love the Colombiana, especially the sweet Paisa, but as far as the `lovin`goes, the Brasiliera for me, wins easily.

I´m back in Sao Paulo, just had the best sex of my life with a new garota I met. Report coming in the SP section, in a few days that is. Too busy chasin out here :)

Gentlemen (and the rest of you who are members of this forum),

As a result of well-noted and constructive critiques of my archaic, yet, inspiring and informative style of prose, I have decided to put forth an extra degree of effort in this report--and this report only--to attempt to provide a well-thought-out, well-structured essay void of any references that might be construed as racism or any other such derogatory or inflammatory rhetoric.

Let us begin, shall we?

Monday: I woke up later in the afternoon, due mostly in-part to the proper reaming I delivered to Ms. Viviane over the course of the previous night and morning. Upon our resumption of consciousness, we bid each other adieu after first strolling over to the local grocery, which also boasted a 24-hour accessible ATM. When I first informed the young, vivacious Viviane that we would have to parade over to the 'cajero' in order to retrieve the necessary funds to satisfy our agreement, she expressed some discontent. Likely, she did not want to subject herself to the leering eyes of others, who might judge her to be what she actually was--a prostitute. Of course, she had no choice; if she did not agree to go with me to the ATM, she would only get the Reais I had on hand--about 50Reais. Needless to say, she eventually relented. We settled the debt, kissed and parted ways.

Per previous arrangement, I was supposed to meet up with my fellow mongering crew (Sami, Voyager1 and Blk Bigbootyluv) for lunch, then, move on to make our pilgrimage to 4x4. Well, since I am normally a late riser when I have a bellywarmer stay overnight, I missed the rendezvous. However, I called Sami to let him know that I was still planning to meet the group at 4x4.

I arrived at 4x4 at about 3:30pm, well beyond the initial 2pm opening, which I originally planned to make. During my last couple of visits to 4x4, I observed a quite intriguing lass whose name I forget, but, I nicknamed her "the S-girl, " for the shape made by the curve of her back and buttocks--it was really quite amazing! She was a blonde and had, what I considered to be a very seductive voice and a perfect body. We talked on several occasions prior to this visit and, I had put her on my "must-do list" for this trip. Today, was my last day, so, I had to make good on my promise. One thing that should be noted about my hobbying activity in a termas, is that I don't ever grab a girl right away. I like to sit back, have a few drinks, talk to the girls and the mongers, then make my decision--hopefully, before the discount deadline.

As luck would have it, at the time when I was ready, S-girl had been snatched up by another lurking monger. I subtly, yet feverishly searched for a suitable replacement. I found one. This girl had an onion on her that would make any Brasilheira envious. She was wearing a red bra and panties set and as soon as she walked by, I knew I had to have her. Additionally intriguing about her was this mid-western farmgirl face that she had, topped off with a very genuine, innocent smile. Although I initially planned to see two girls at 4x4 tonight, I knew that she was going to be all I needed. I was right; by the time it was all over, she would bring me to orgasm four times! That, and I had arranged for Mayara (the bodybuilder) from earlier in my trip to come by my apartment in the morning and I knew I had to save up for her!

Luckily for you, she wasn't camera shy. Gentlemen, I present for your viewing pleasure. The amazing Gracie! Thank me later.

[URL=http://www.zshare.net/video/652782999a856f35/]Grace Video.MOV[/URL]

Rodeo

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Gone are the days when this board said anything new.

Folks,

I caught up with a friend other day who was telling me his adventure down in Florida strip, Centro. He ended up having a dupla, then one of the girls 'milked' on him LOL I been trying to rack my brains for the abbreviation ie like CIM, BBBJ for getting milked on. Was hilarious story verging on the bizarre, does anyone have the term or abbreviation? Party for useful knowledge, other part to wind him up. For being milked on.

Said was bizarre one girl down south other started milking all over him. Guess just another one of that bizarre ones to tick off the list LOL

It was actually the last Monday he was down where everything was shut in Centro but he thought he would give Florida a try (first time there) and it was open, arrived early (11pm) only guy there about 7 or 8 girls all huddled watching TV seemingly a soap opera so no point trying to engage in conversation at this point. When it finished the fun started and some drinks bought and he had a private club with about 6 of the girls doing shows and dragging him up and all the shenanigans and fun.

Eventually settled on a dupla as was low on funds went only for the 30 mins $R140 (incl cabin) and $R10 Enterance with $R5 per Skol, so prices as of last sperto update (March 09) still valid.

He did get approached leaving the cabin by couple of local dodgers offering viagra amongst 'other' things despite their persistance he stuck to his guns and left hassle free.

That Grace has got a monster booty, hopefully she will still
be there in April.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Here I am, to try to make feel here with my reports from Rio, the ones that sit down at their own home.

Shortly, I did not have to be here, as I had to go to Tashkent, Uzbekistan, but I got back pain 2 days before to go and I lost the chance to taste Uzbek pussy. Then 3 days ago I got almost totally recovered and I was able to bullshit my boss at work, telling him I need to go to warm place to get totally healthy....so here I am, I arrived yesterday via madrid with Iberia, good price, 575 euro, but not much amenities on the board, only 3 movies and neither nice.

When I hit copa was 19:20 so all the travel agency in praia lido where I was used to change money, where already closed, I did not want to change at airport at too low rate, so I tried ATM at banco do brazil a bit in worry, cause my dick was in need of soon money, read pussy LOL.

Difference from january, it worked with all my 4 cards and I went out with 2.000 reais and this made me feel much better as I was sure if I saw some good food, my dick got nice dinner.

Once in hotel, I thought to take shower, sleep a bit, have a dinner and go out.....After 20 minutes I was already inside Montecarlo as I did only shower....yes, I can eat at my home place food :)

I was too tired, jet lag did not help me, I was up almost 24 hours, so even if I was horny, I was not sure I could have a great session, however Montecarlo was packed, neither free place to sit down and I saw no one of the girls I saw in march, however some 8' and many 6,5', none 9 or above.

I drunk my sprite and went to terraco atlantico, without no sex at all, just a chit chat with some girls.

In front of Help even if it was friday evening, it was very slow about midnight, I can say on monday evening in january much more persons than yesterday and no new girls, the same old faces....not good.

Inside it was, even at 1:00 am half empty, considering it was already weekend and no one girls really inspired me to spend money, that btw seems to be 400 reais, quickly down to 300 with 2 girls I asked.

I drunk only caipirinha, but I was so tired that I had the feeling I did not walk inside the disco, but just flying....at sea level ;)

Then I was almost sure it was a first day with no sex...yes my dick started to get pissed off....I decided to check a place that even if I neither took girl,too expensive, but has nice stuff....Barbarella.....

To make long short.....WOOOOOOOW!!!!

They wanted to charge me 80 reais, that I got immediately down to 60 reais, cause I told them, it is late night or 60 or I go and hey, it worked, even if maybe I got only the non gringo price. Good enough I saw my portuguese was even better than last time....Pimsleur works good LOL

Inside I neither had time to sit down that a girl approached me....petite thin brunette from porto alegre......there was immediately chemistry as we touched softly with almost no conversation and she kissed me...I though, ok with this expensive place, maybe it is normal....the conversation then was nice, but nothing special....special was the way she kissed me.....and the fact that after half hour she still ordered nothing to drink.....when I offer her to buy a drink, she said, wait and she came back with a glass of water...very good sign !!!!

I asked how much for how much time..she said, the girls here want 500 reais and I said, they can ask whatever they want......you ? She said 300 reais and I said, I arrived today, I have only 200 reais....she said no and I was almost happy as I was always more tired, but I kept on kissing her, as it is free LOL

After a bit, she suddendly said, ok for 200 and obviously I start the usual questions about what she likes in sex and she said, me gosta todo de todo..........let's go I replied !!!

It was a very good sessione, specially cause I was very surprised I cum twice, first in shower with her on her knees bj me with cif.....so good !

And then on the bed, with no anal, as I was too tired and lazy to go to search in the suitcase where the fuck I put the lube, as without it she said it little hurts her and I am not big dick man....nevermind.

However I let her go away and I check the time I woke up, I mean I started my travel 32 hours before......shit, when I realized this, I close the door and I slept as a child.

So with a bit of luck even in the turist rip off place it is possible to get very good experience at very good price.

Today all the day at the beach, about =28C., very pleasent weather and sun, posto 9 packed with a lot of pussy, but I slept even at the beach LOL.

To tomorrow dear friends when it will arrive my bro from NY, cause even if I have no problem to stay alone, there is nothing better than to meet with a bro, from this forum btw, whom last time I had really a lot of fun and btw, he is the one who showed me termas.....dear one, I owe you more than one beers :)

Suerteee[/QUOTE] Lukasek, Parabens amigo - 200 R for a girls from Barbarella??? This must be some sort of record. Very good!!!! I think this trip will be much better for you than the last!!!!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Upon our resumption of consciousness, we bid each other adieu after first strolling over to the local grocery, which also boasted a 24-hour accessible ATM. When I first informed the young, vivacious Viviane that we would have to parade over to the 'cajero' in order to retrieve the necessary funds to satisfy our agreement, she expressed some discontent. Likely, she did not want to subject herself to the leering eyes of others, who might judge her to be what she actually was--a prostitute. Of course, she had no choice; if she did not agree to go with me to the ATM, she would only get the Reais I had on hand--about 50Reais. Needless to say, she eventually relented.

Rodeo[/QUOTE]I can see why Vivian was upset - there was no need for her to be subjected to that public embarrassment. Yeah, she's a prostitute but there is a proper discreet way to conduct YOUR business. She has to live in this city long after you have had your 7 days of non-stop pussy partying. Is that hard to comprehend? If you negotiate a transaction, be prepared to pay your bills in the proper way. Do you go to dinner and tell the waiter you have to run down to the ATM to pay for the meal? Do you go to 4x4 and tell them on the way out that you are light on cash and need make an ATM run? You knew you were going to go with her, you actually made arrangements to meet with her. It wasn't a surprise business transaction. It really just comes down to class. And you write about how special you treat the ladies and they can't get enough of you, how you look away out of respect because a woman was with another guy at the beach. I like to party and get laid as much as anyone here - but I am not going to lose my sense of common human decency doing it. Yes --- they are humans.

I am done reading your posts, ignoring them from now on.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gentlemen (and the rest of you who are members of this forum),

As a result of well-noted and constructive critiques of my archaic, yet, inspiring and informative style of prose, I have decided to put forth an extra degree of effort in this report--and this report only--to attempt to provide a well-thought-out, well-structured essay void of any references that might be construed as racism or any other such derogatory or inflammatory rhetoric.

Let us begin, shall we?

Monday: I woke up later in the afternoon, due mostly in-part to the proper reaming I delivered to Ms. Viviane over the course of the previous night and morning. Upon our resumption of consciousness, we bid each other adieu after first strolling over to the local grocery, which also boasted a 24-hour accessible ATM. When I first informed the young, vivacious Viviane that we would have to parade over to the 'cajero' in order to retrieve the necessary funds to satisfy our agreement, she expressed some discontent. Likely, she did not want to subject herself to the leering eyes of others, who might judge her to be what she actually was--a prostitute. Of course, she had no choice; if she did not agree to go with me to the ATM, she would only get the Reais I had on hand--about 50Reais. Needless to say, she eventually relented. We settled the debt, kissed and parted ways.

Per previous arrangement, I was supposed to meet up with my fellow mongering crew (Sami, Voyager1 and Blk Bigbootyluv) for lunch, then, move on to make our pilgrimage to 4x4. Well, since I am normally a late riser when I have a bellywarmer stay overnight, I missed the rendezvous. However, I called Sami to let him know that I was still planning to meet the group at 4x4.

I arrived at 4x4 at about 3:30pm, well beyond the initial 2pm opening, which I originally planned to make. During my last couple of visits to 4x4, I observed a quite intriguing lass whose name I forget, but, I nicknamed her "the S-girl, " for the shape made by the curve of her back and buttocks--it was really quite amazing! She was a blonde and had, what I considered to be a very seductive voice and a perfect body. We talked on several occasions prior to this visit and, I had put her on my "must-do list" for this trip. Today, was my last day, so, I had to make good on my promise. One thing that should be noted about my hobbying activity in a termas, is that I don't ever grab a girl right away. I like to sit back, have a few drinks, talk to the girls and the mongers, then make my decision--hopefully, before the discount deadline.

As luck would have it, at the time when I was ready, S-girl had been snatched up by another lurking monger. I subtly, yet feverishly searched for a suitable replacement. I found one. This girl had an onion on her that would make any Brasilheira envious. She was wearing a red bra and panties set and as soon as she walked by, I knew I had to have her. Additionally intriguing about her was this mid-western farmgirl face that she had, topped off with a very genuine, innocent smile. Although I initially planned to see two girls at 4x4 tonight, I knew that she was going to be all I needed. I was right; by the time it was all over, she would bring me to orgasm four times! That, and I had arranged for Mayara (the bodybuilder) from earlier in my trip to come by my apartment in the morning and I knew I had to save up for her!

Luckily for you, she wasn't camera shy. Gentlemen, I present for your viewing pleasure. The amazing Gracie! Thank me later.

[URL=http://www.zshare.net/video/652782999a856f35/]Grace Video.MOV[/URL]

Rodeo

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I preferred the rambling stylings of a drunken bastard on a mission actually.
Great Post! LOL!

Is it absolutely neccessary to quote an entire 1/2 page post, you know it's possible to just quote a line or two to reference who you are responding to!

Thanks for the report Lukasek, Barbarbella does have a few stunners, I never fancied those prices, we went last year and the bar bill alone was enough of sticker shock @R500, but there were four of us and a bunch of GDP's, and a generous host picked it up!

My god just when I thought I have seen all the asses brazil had to offer.

Grace appears.

Rodeo you are killing it with these reports and pics.

Excellent work.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gentlemen (and the rest of you who are members of this forum),

As a result of well-noted and constructive critiques of my archaic, yet, inspiring and informative style of prose, I have decided to put forth an extra degree of effort in this report--and this report only--to attempt to provide a well-thought-out, well-structured essay void of any references that might be construed as racism or any other such derogatory or inflammatory rhetoric.

Let us begin, shall we?

Monday: I woke up later in the afternoon, due mostly in-part to the proper reaming I delivered to Ms. Viviane over the course of the previous night and morning. Upon our resumption of consciousness, we bid each other adieu after first strolling over to the local grocery, which also boasted a 24-hour accessible ATM. When I first informed the young, vivacious Viviane that we would have to parade over to the 'cajero' in order to retrieve the necessary funds to satisfy our agreement, she expressed some discontent. Likely, she did not want to subject herself to the leering eyes of others, who might judge her to be what she actually was--a prostitute. Of course, she had no choice; if she did not agree to go with me to the ATM, she would only get the Reais I had on hand--about 50Reais. Needless to say, she eventually relented. We settled the debt, kissed and parted ways.

Per previous arrangement, I was supposed to meet up with my fellow mongering crew (Sami, Voyager1 and Blk Bigbootyluv) for lunch, then, move on to make our pilgrimage to 4x4. Well, since I am normally a late riser when I have a bellywarmer stay overnight, I missed the rendezvous. However, I called Sami to let him know that I was still planning to meet the group at 4x4.

I arrived at 4x4 at about 3:30pm, well beyond the initial 2pm opening, which I originally planned to make. During my last couple of visits to 4x4, I observed a quite intriguing lass whose name I forget, but, I nicknamed her "the S-girl, " for the shape made by the curve of her back and buttocks--it was really quite amazing! She was a blonde and had, what I considered to be a very seductive voice and a perfect body. We talked on several occasions prior to this visit and, I had put her on my "must-do list" for this trip. Today, was my last day, so, I had to make good on my promise. One thing that should be noted about my hobbying activity in a termas, is that I don't ever grab a girl right away. I like to sit back, have a few drinks, talk to the girls and the mongers, then make my decision--hopefully, before the discount deadline.

As luck would have it, at the time when I was ready, S-girl had been snatched up by another lurking monger. I subtly, yet feverishly searched for a suitable replacement. I found one. This girl had an onion on her that would make any Brasilheira envious. She was wearing a red bra and panties set and as soon as she walked by, I knew I had to have her. Additionally intriguing about her was this mid-western farmgirl face that she had, topped off with a very genuine, innocent smile. Although I initially planned to see two girls at 4x4 tonight, I knew that she was going to be all I needed. I was right; by the time it was all over, she would bring me to orgasm four times! That, and I had arranged for Mayara (the bodybuilder) from earlier in my trip to come by my apartment in the morning and I knew I had to save up for her!

Luckily for you, she wasn't camera shy. Gentlemen, I present for your viewing pleasure. The amazing Gracie! Thank me later.

[URL=http://www.zshare.net/video/652782999a856f35/]Grace Video.MOV[/URL]

Rodeo

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[QUOTE=Hughdad]I can see why Vivian was upset - there was no need for her to be subjected to that public embarrassment. Yeah, she's a prostitute but there is a proper discreet way to conduct YOUR business. She has to live in this city long after you have had your 7 days of non-stop pussy partying. Is that hard to comprehend? If you negotiate a transaction, be prepared to pay your bills in the proper way. Do you go to dinner and tell the waiter you have to run down to the ATM to pay for the meal? Do you go to 4x4 and tell them on the way out that you are light on cash and need make an ATM run? You knew you were going to go with her, you actually made arrangements to meet with her. It wasn't a surprise business transaction. It really just comes down to class. And you write about how special you treat the ladies and they can't get enough of you, how you look away out of respect because a woman was with another guy at the beach. I like to party and get laid as much as anyone here - but I am not going to lose my sense of common human decency doing it. Yes --- they are humans.

I am done reading your posts, ignoring them from now on.[/QUOTE]

I completely and totally agree. What makes some guys treat the people they just had sex with as though they aren't deserving of dignity completely escapes me, but it's common enough to make a person feel sick. Or angry. Usually both.

Hey bro,

I still can't get my friends back home to understand that asses of these chicas in Brazil. That picture of the light chick with that monster ass took me back to my first day in 4x4 and watching the parade of giant dump truck booties walk thru the door one after the other.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Gentlemen (and the rest of you who are members of this forum),

Let us begin, shall we?[/quote]

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]I completely and totally agree. What makes some guys treat the people they just had sex with as though they aren't deserving of dignity completely escapes me, but it's common enough to make a person feel sick. Or angry. Usually both.[/QUOTE]It's all ego with that guy. It is one thing to have a great, off-the-hook time - it is another to disrespect the people you are with and the places you are visiting. (And yes, we are visiting them as guests in THEIR country.) That dude is looking to be the big man on campus and build his "fan" club here (his words). He tosses around race-baiting comments and tries bullying anyone that does not think his reports are the bombdiddy. He likes bullying and bashing new members seeking advice for asking a "Rookie Question!" (Hey, we were all rookies at mongering at one time and many guys here who have far more going on than him have been gracious with their invaluable advice.) On and on.

I suppose a psychologist would say there are many reasons a person can act in that manner: perhaps that person was a dweeb that was picked on growing up and unpopular with the girls, or they did not get the love and attention they needed, or they were never properly taught about respecting others, weren't breast fed, etc.. Or, of course, it could just be that the person was simply a tool.

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]I completely and totally agree. What makes some guys treat the people they just had sex with as though they aren't deserving of dignity completely escapes me, but it's common enough to make a person feel sick. Or angry. Usually both.[/QUOTE]

I think it's one of the reasons I like VM. People don't get away with that kind of behaviour for long. They don't get the chance to 'get one up on the locals' that they have such a low opinion of. And fortunately most such people think VM's beneath them anyway.

I did, however, once find myself 'light' as I was leaving 4x4. I had just lost track of how long I'd partied for, how many drinks I'd bought and so on. It was a genuine mistake, I was most apologetic and they were very civilised about it. We were discussing various possible arrangements when another customer who was going the same way as me very kindly offered to pay the balance of my bill and get the rest on our way home in a shared taxi. He wasn't show off-ish. Just a calm, decent guy. If he's reading this, I hope I bump into him again one day and can buy him a drink.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I think it's one of the reasons I like VM. People don't get away with that kind of behaviour for long. They don't get the chance to 'get one up on the locals' that they have such a low opinion of. And fortunately most such people think VM's beneath them anyway.

I did, however, once find myself 'light' as I was leaving 4x4. I had just lost track of how long I'd partied for, how many drinks I'd bought and so on. It was a genuine mistake, I was most apologetic and they were very civilised about it. We were discussing various possible arrangements when another customer who was going the same way as me very kindly offered to pay the balance of my bill and get the rest on our way home in a shared taxi. He wasn't show off-ish. Just a calm, decent guy. If he's reading this, I hope I bump into him again one day and can buy him a drink.[/QUOTE]Aren't you all overracting? Rodeo honored the agreed upon price; what's the big deal, they had to come to ATM for him to pay up? How do you know he didn't pay her discreetly? Come on, guys: those girls ain't shy, they walk around Copa in their oversexed outfits and ply their wares, Jesus! Let me ask you this: how many of you can tell a hooker when you see one? I bet, Rodeo misunderstood her discontent: maybe the girl was simply concerned Rodeo would try to skip out of payment, that's all.

[b]citibank[/b]
i know this little blurb belongs in the [i]real vs dollar and other currency issues[/i] section, but i might as well mention it here. j and i went to lunch and headed to citibank afterwards for him to withdraw some money. he has a citibank account in the us, but for some reason they put a cap on his atm daily withdrawal amount of r$300. the first day here, he was able to withdraw r$800. we ended up having to call citibank from an internet cafe to have them lift the daily cap and increase it to the standard r$1000. they stated they noticed unusual withdrawal activity and decided to place the cap. word to the wise - those with citibank accounts should call ahead before their trip to rio and let them know you will be withdrawing money.

[b]caesar park[/b]
what a perfect day for the beach - sunny and clear. we headed to caesar park hotel again at 3p. i forgot to mention yesterday that we got some beach chairs and forgot to initially ask how much. when we settled the bill, the guy tried to charge us r$10 per chair saying "it's caesar park". i said "caesar park meu bunda" and gave him r$3 per chair. he agreed of course. today, we found a guy that would sell us beach chairs in the same spot for r$2, so go figure. we spent 2 hours on the beach and i was scoping out the talent, and there was plenty on hand. kept looking for sets of girls that might be gdp's, but no luck. in that sea of bodies, it seems i might get luckier seeing the lochness monster. ha.

[b]luomo[/b]
i had dinner and club plans later tonight, so i had to get a session in and get back to the apartment by 7:30p. i got to luomo at 5:30p and hit the showers. i got in the boite and there were about 6 guys and 22 girls. saw many of the usual suspects - ruby, jamela, bea, diana, and even giselle. damn, i wanted giselle but she was occupied. i sat around for about 20 minutes in the boite and it was about 6p now. in came lunah from earlier in my trip. i was under time constraints so i decided to give her another spin. the session was very good - seems repeat sessions get better and better. it was just passionate lovemaking, if you will, no anal or anything. i left luomo at 7p and paid $r240 thanks to the 50% off r$60 entry if you enter before 7p and session with a girl at anytime.

[b]luomo's relax room - rip soon...[/b]
say it isn't so! upon leaving luomo, i heard an older monger say that they are getting rid of the relax room and turning it into some kind of computer chat room??? as i checked out, i asked the front desk lady if they were getting rid of the relax room. she said it was true and should be done in 4-6 weeks, by november or so. she wasn't sure what will become of the relax room, but she said the owner is intent on getting rid of it. i asked if they were going to somehow expand the boite and she said it is doubtful. anyway, i said that totally sucks because the relax room was always a great place to escape the boite. it was also a great place to chat with some girls in peace and quiet.

[b]ten kai restaurant[/b]
earlier in the day, i tried to make reservations at sushi leblon. seeing how it was saturday, they said they were fully booked for tonight. so we went with plan b - ten kai in ipanema. this place is pretty upscale and i would consider pricey. a 23-piece sashimi order was r$58 and an order of oysters (which you only get 2) cost r$17. service is good and sushi is fresh, so it's a good option.

[b]club 00[/b]
my uni friend wanted to take us to a nightclub so i suggested one with hot young girls. she decided on taking us to club 00.

[color=blue]location[/color]:
this club is located in gavea. cab ride from ipanema posto 9 was only 10 minutes and the fare was r$10. it is located across the street from a large university - puc (pontifícia universidade católica), pronounced [i]pookie[/i].

[color=blue]layout[/color]:
when you enter the club, there is an outside courtyard that has tables and benches to sit and drink at. then there is a room where there is a dance floor that plays the club music. people mingle in the courtyard and go inside to dance, so it's a cool setup. the dance floor room is a semi-circle type room with a radius of about 50 feet, so not a huge place. there's also a restaurant connected to the dance room.

[color=blue]clientele[/color]:
on a saturday night, we arrived at 10:45p and there was no wait in line. the club was at 25% capacity at this time. there were so many girls compared to guys though, about 3 to 1. by 1 am, the club was nearly full. the ratio almost evened out, i'd say 1.25 girls to 1 guy. this club caters to a [b]very young crowd[/b]. i would say 40% are in the 18-23 age range, with a lot of the patrons going to puc school across the street. as for the girls, oh my god. heaven on earth. i would say they 70% of them were above an 8, with quite a few 9's in the mix. saw one 50-year old hag who stuck out like a sore thumb. i only saw one guy that looked like he was over 40.

[color=blue]the action[/color]:
when we got there, the 3 of us got drinks and just scoped out the place. it was me, the uni girl, and my friend j. my uni friend said a lot of these girls at this club speak english. i decided after about 20 minutes to go practice getting rejected. found a 2-set: cute girl standing with her broke friend. i just said "oi, tudo bem?" the cute girl replied "sim". so we chat a bit but she spoke no english. with my less than stellar portuguese, i could only maintain about a 3-minute conversation with her. found out she was a physio therapist and didn't go to the puc school. i told her i was heading back to my friends and we bid adieu. that was good practice and some mild entertainment for my friends.

so we went and danced in the club for awhile. around 3am, i was walking to the bar to get a drink and a girl grabs my arm and pulls me over to her group of friends. she then speaks portuguese saying "o meu amigo quer um beijo de você" (my friend wants a kiss from you). at this point, i was thinking "is this really happening?" it was kind of surreal. her friend was super cute, girl-next-door type. so i tried to make her laugh by asking her if she spoke these far-off asian languages "fala coreano? fala japonais?" she then says "nao fala" and starts speaking english. all of a sudden, all these girls surrounding me start speaking english. turns out, they all go to puc. anyway, the girl didn't really want a kiss. her friends were just screwing around with her. another girl points to her friend and says in english "my friend wants a one-night stand with you". of course, i just play along and say ok. nothing happened after that, as i knew they were just teasing. i found it interesting that my uni friend said that for these young kids, a "one-night stand" meant just "kissing and messing around". i said "oh yeah, in the us it means sex and sleeping over". i don't know if she was just naive or what. i stayed with these girls for about 30 minutes, just talking and drinking. it would have been nice to hook up with a university student, but alas no dice. still, it was fun and opened my eyes to a whole new world! i think i learned that if these educated english-speaking brasileras want to speak english to you, they will. if not, they will pretend not to know english. i think i blended in ok "age-wise" with the crowd though, as i have been told i look 25 even though i am in my late 30's. so i would say this club really isn't for people who look older.

[color=blue]cover[/color]:
r$40 for both men and women. how do these uni kids afford this? when i was in college, i could hardly scrounge up $22 usd for food and going out!

[QUOTE=Hughdad]I am done reading your posts, ignoring them from now on.[/QUOTE]Oh no! Hughdad is not reading my posts anymore!! I don't know how I'll go on...Eat a dick dude, like I care!

For anyone who is curious, I had Viviane go into the grocery store while I was conducting my business at the ATM. I doubt most guys here would have trusted leaving a GDP in your apartment unsupervised. Anyone who has been in Copa (not sure about the rest of Rio), knows that there is a limit put on some of the ATMs with respect to withdrawals after a certain hour. That, and, who the hell is gonna go hunting for an ATM at that hour when you have a GDP ripping and running you back and forth to her apartment. Finally, remember...for those who actually read my report, you'll note that I wasn't planning to go home with a girl at the time Viviane and I left my group of friends.

So, when you think its cool to judge somebody that you haven't even met, especially when you don't have all the details, don't pull a Hughdad and make yourself look like an asshole...rookie!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Ten Kai Restaurant[/b]Ten Kai in Ipanema. This place is pretty upscale and I would consider pricey. A 23-piece sashimi order was R$58 and an order of oysters (which you only get 2) cost R$17. Service is good and sushi is fresh, so it's a good option.

[b]Club 00[/b]This club is located in Gavea. Cab ride from Ipanema Posto 9 was only 10 minutes and the fare was R$10. It is located across the street from a large university - PUC (Pontifícia Universidade Católica), pronounced [i]pookie[/i]. [/QUOTE]FYI Club 00 has sushi on the menu. (It looks pricey.)
Avenida Padre Leonel Franca, 240 - Gávea,
[url]http://www.00site.com.br/[/url]

No, NOT Help.
Oglobo reporting that Clubs Nuth and Melt were closed by the City Friday night for code violations: Unapproved Exhaust and Air Conditioning.

Melt was cited back in May, and was repeatedly warned, but did not correct the problem.

Both can only re-open once they've corrected the problems.

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/mat/2009/09/12/duas-boates-melt-a-nuth-sao-interditadas-na-zona-sul-767583913.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=Xpartan]Aren't you all overracting? Rodeo honored the agreed upon price; what's the big deal, they had to come to ATM for him to pay up? How do you know he didn't pay her discreetly? Come on, guys: those girls ain't shy, they walk around Copa in their oversexed outfits and ply their wares, Jesus! Let me ask you this: how many of you can tell a hooker when you see one? I bet, Rodeo misunderstood her discontent: maybe the girl was simply concerned Rodeo would try to skip out of payment, that's all.[/QUOTE]

I was commenting on a general attitude that Jesuscola mentioned and that I personally dislike as much as he does. Regarding Rodeo, I don't personally much care for his recent posts but plenty of other people do and he puts plenty of work in them: there's room for more than one reporting style in here hopefully!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]For anyone who is curious, I had Viviane go into the grocery store while I was conducting my business at the ATM. I doubt most guys here would have trusted leaving a GDP in your apartment unsupervised. Anyone who has been in Copa (not sure about the rest of Rio), knows that there is a limit put on some of the ATMs with respect to withdrawals after a certain hour. That, and, who the hell is gonna go hunting for an ATM at that hour when you have a GDP ripping and running you back and forth to her apartment. Finally, remember...for those who actually read my report, you'll note that I wasn't planning to go home with a girl at the time Viviane and I left my group of friends.

So, when you think its cool to judge somebody that you haven't even met, especially when you don't have all the details, don't pull a Hughdad and make yourself look like an asshole...rookie!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

You posted a video ON THE INTERNET of a girl sucking you off while saying, "No filmie, no filme..." You can't be claiming to treat them respectfully after that. Do you really expect people to be impressed because you paid a girl to suck your dick? Or do you need other people to acknowledge that it actually happened or else you might not believe it yourself? If you weren't seeking some kind of glory or attention here, why would you trample everyone in your path?

YOU DON'T LIVE IN RIO. You don't know what it's like for these girls. You don't talk to them every day. You're either so sick to be acknowledged that you don't think about anyone else involved, or you lack the basic equipment required to be a decent fucking human being. If you ever find yourself wondering why you have to pay for ass, I suggest you start there.

And me, I'm not a praying man, but dear God, I pray that you come back in the next life as a Brazilian hooker and have to take some dirtbag's huge dick in your ass several times every day, and then have the money for the towels, the robes, the soap, and even the fucking condoms extracted from you on a weekly basis. There would be some justice in that.

The last days we hade long reports from Azn Safado, Lukasek, Rodeo9112 and Genghis Khan. Four mongers describing four different mongering-styles. That's not bad.

Reading about how other mongers makes the girls "cum" and how they f**ked them four times in one night, that's not in my interest. I find info presented in the GPGuia-way far more useful. Address, price, time, names and notes on how the girls performed.

Still, well-written reports might have value even though they lack any useful info. They might have value as being entertaining. Tungurahua and his old VM-reports were masterpieces in the art of making entertaining reports.

[quote=azn safado][b]citibank[/b]
i know this little blurb belongs in the [i]real vs dollar and other currency issues[/i] section, but i might as well mention it here. j and i went to lunch and headed to citibank afterwards for him to withdraw some money. he has a citibank account in the us, but for some reason they put a cap on his atm daily withdrawal amount of r$300. the first day here, he was able to withdraw r$800. we ended up having to call citibank from an internet cafe to have them lift the daily cap and increase it to the standard r$1000. they stated they noticed unusual withdrawal activity and decided to place the cap. word to the wise - those with citibank accounts should call ahead before their trip to rio and let them know you will be withdrawing money.

[b]caesar park[/b]
what a perfect day for the beach - sunny and clear. we headed to caesar park hotel again at 3p. i forgot to mention yesterday that we got some beach chairs and forgot to initially ask how much. when we settled the bill, the guy tried to charge us r$10 per chair saying "it's caesar park". i said "caesar park meu bunda" and gave him r$3 per chair. he agreed of course. today, we found a guy that would sell us beach chairs in the same spot for r$2, so go figure. we spent 2 hours on the beach and i was scoping out the talent, and there was plenty on hand. kept looking for sets of girls that might be gdp's, but no luck. in that sea of bodies, it seems i might get luckier seeing the lochness monster. ha.

[b]luomo[/b]
i had dinner and club plans later tonight, so i had to get a session in and get back to the apartment by 7:30p. i got to luomo at 5:30p and hit the showers. i got in the boite and there were about 6 guys and 22 girls. saw many of the usual suspects - ruby, jamela, bea, diana, and even giselle. damn, i wanted giselle but she was occupied. i sat around for about 20 minutes in the boite and it was about 6p now. in came lunah from earlier in my trip. i was under time constraints so i decided to give her another spin. the session was very good - seems repeat sessions get better and better. it was just passionate lovemaking, if you will, no anal or anything. i left luomo at 7p and paid $r240 thanks to the 50% off r$60 entry if you enter before 7p and session with a girl at anytime.

[b]luomo's relax room - rip soon...[/b]
say it isn't so! upon leaving luomo, i heard an older monger say that they are getting rid of the relax room and turning it into some kind of computer chat room??? as i checked out, i asked the front desk lady if they were getting rid of the relax room. she said it was true and should be done in 4-6 weeks, by november or so. she wasn't sure what will become of the relax room, but she said the owner is intent on getting rid of it. i asked if they were going to somehow expand the boite and she said it is doubtful. anyway, i said that totally sucks because the relax room was always a great place to escape the boite. it was also a great place to chat with some girls in peace and quiet.

[b]ten kai restaurant[/b]
earlier in the day, i tried to make reservations at sushi leblon. seeing how it was saturday, they said they were fully booked for tonight. so we went with plan b - ten kai in ipanema. this place is pretty upscale and i would consider pricey. a 23-piece sashimi order was r$58 and an order of oysters (which you only get 2) cost r$17. service is good and sushi is fresh, so it's a good option.

[b]club 00[/b]
my uni friend wanted to take us to a nightclub so i suggested one with hot young girls. she decided on taking us to club 00.

[color=blue]location[/color]:
this club is located in gavea. cab ride from ipanema posto 9 was only 10 minutes and the fare was r$10. it is located across the street from a large university - puc (pontifícia universidade católica), pronounced [i]pookie[/i].

[color=blue]layout[/color]:
when you enter the club, there is an outside courtyard that has tables and benches to sit and drink at. then there is a room where there is a dance floor that plays the club music. people mingle in the courtyard and go inside to dance, so it's a cool setup. the dance floor room is a semi-circle type room with a radius of about 50 feet, so not a huge place. there's also a restaurant connected to the dance room.

[color=blue]clientele[/color]:
on a saturday night, we arrived at 10:45p and there was no wait in line. the club was at 25% capacity at this time. there were so many girls compared to guys though, about 3 to 1. by 1 am, the club was nearly full. the ratio almost evened out, i'd say 1.25 girls to 1 guy. this club caters to a [b]very young crowd[/b]. i would say 40% are in the 18-23 age range, with a lot of the patrons going to puc school across the street. as for the girls, oh my god. heaven on earth. i would say they 70% of them were above an 8, with quite a few 9's in the mix. saw one 50-year old hag who stuck out like a sore thumb. i only saw one guy that looked like he was over 40.

[color=blue]the action[/color]:
when we got there, the 3 of us got drinks and just scoped out the place. it was me, the uni girl, and my friend j. my uni friend said a lot of these girls at this club speak english. i decided after about 20 minutes to go practice getting rejected. found a 2-set: cute girl standing with her broke friend. i just said "oi, tudo bem?" the cute girl replied "sim". so we chat a bit but she spoke no english. with my less than stellar portuguese, i could only maintain about a 3-minute conversation with her. found out she was a physio therapist and didn't go to the puc school. i told her i was heading back to my friends and we bid adieu. that was good practice and some mild entertainment for my friends.

so we went and danced in the club for awhile. around 3am, i was walking to the bar to get a drink and a girl grabs my arm and pulls me over to her group of friends. she then speaks portuguese saying "o meu amigo quer um beijo de você" (my friend wants a kiss from you). at this point, i was thinking "is this really happening?" it was kind of surreal. her friend was super cute, girl-next-door type. so i tried to make her laugh by asking her if she spoke these far-off asian languages "fala coreano? fala japonais?" she then says "nao fala" and starts speaking english. all of a sudden, all these girls surrounding me start speaking english. turns out, they all go to puc. anyway, the girl didn't really want a kiss. her friends were just screwing around with her. another girl points to her friend and says in english "my friend wants a one-night stand with you". of course, i just play along and say ok. nothing happened after that, as i knew they were just teasing. i found it interesting that my uni friend said that for these young kids, a "one-night stand" meant just "kissing and messing around". i said "oh yeah, in the us it means sex and sleeping over". i don't know if she was just naive or what. i stayed with these girls for about 30 minutes, just talking and drinking. it would have been nice to hook up with a university student, but alas no dice. still, it was fun and opened my eyes to a whole new world! i think i learned that if these educated english-speaking brasileras want to speak english to you, they will. if not, they will pretend not to know english. i think i blended in ok "age-wise" with the crowd though, as i have been told i look 25 even though i am in my late 30's. so i would say this club really isn't for people who look older.

[color=blue]cover[/color]:
r$40 for both men and women. how do these uni kids afford this? when i was in college, i could hardly scrounge up $22 usd for food and going out![/quote]

puc university is a a catholic institution founded by the jesuits and it is
private, so only the more affluents can study there. a lot of women there
of the high society that did not made the vestibular for the federal university,
so they make the degree at this private university and enhance there market
value on the market with an university degree. also girls of conservative/catholic family bakground. normally this girls merry in
their own social group. so quite strict social norm and pressure to conformity.
mostly, the girls are open to cultural exchange with younger foreigners which are professionals. some girls obviously try to make their own life, so chances
for relationsship and scoring, but the dependence from daddy's wallet weighs
haevy. do not need to sell the pussy to finance the studies as daddy is
paying the bills, also for a comfortable living.

[QUOTE=Taurus1]PUC university is a a Catholic institution founded by the Jesuits and it is
private, so only the more affluents can study there. A lot of women there
of the high society that did not made the vestibular for the Federal University,
so they make the degree at this private university and enhance there market
value on the market with an university degree. Also girls of conservative/catholic family bakground. Normally this girls merry in
their own social group. So quite strict social norm and pressure to conformity.
Mostly, the girls are open to cultural exchange with younger foreigners which are professionals. Some girls obviously try to make their own life, so chances
for relationsship and scoring, but the dependence from daddy's wallet weighs
haevy. Do not need to sell the pussy to finance the studies as daddy is
paying the bills, also for a comfortable living.[/QUOTE]

Dude this is your own view. I did a language course at PUC, and possibly know more than you. It is very difficult to get into PUC, and the academic level is very high. Not just anyone can get in, in the first place, and complete the course. It is one of the very best universities in brazil, not just rio de janeiro

Taurus1 and Beach Star, you're both right.

Taurus1 is right, the goal for rich kids is to get into the Federal Universities. If they don't succeed they go to a private university.

The students at PUC are a mixture of rich kids and students from middle-/lowclass who got a scholar ship.

Beach Star is also right, the academic level at PUC is high and PUC has a very good reputation.

I also did a language course at PUC. As a foreign student at PUC the scoring chances are very high. When you get to know the rich PUC girls they are just as safada as their poorer "sisters" living on the morro. :D

[b]Beach Star/Sperto[/b],
I am planning to move to Rio at the end of next year.

Would it be difficult for me to enroll in a language course at PUC? I would like to take a Portuguese course. What is the application process like if I will not be enrolled full-time? Fill out a form and pay the tuition? Any other qualifications necessary?

Thanks for any information you can provide.

[QUOTE=Sperto]Taurus1 and Beach Star, you're both right.

Taurus1 is right, the goal for rich kids is to get into the Federal Universities. If they don't succeed they go to a private university.

The students at PUC are a mixture of rich kids and students from middle-/lowclass who got a scholar ship.

Beach Star is also right, the academic level at PUC is high and PUC has a very good reputation.

I also did a language course at PUC. As a foreign student at PUC the scoring chances are very high. When you get to know the rich PUC girls they are just as safada as their poorer "sisters" living on the morro. :D[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Oh no! Hughdad is not reading my posts anymore!! I don't know how I'll go on...Eat a dick dude, like I care!

For anyone who is curious, I had Viviane go into the grocery store while I was conducting my business at the ATM. I doubt most guys here would have trusted leaving a GDP in your apartment unsupervised. Anyone who has been in Copa (not sure about the rest of Rio), knows that there is a limit put on some of the ATMs with respect to withdrawals after a certain hour. That, and, who the hell is gonna go hunting for an ATM at that hour when you have a GDP ripping and running you back and forth to her apartment. Finally, remember...for those who actually read my report, you'll note that I wasn't planning to go home with a girl at the time Viviane and I left my group of friends.

So, when you think its cool to judge somebody that you haven't even met, especially when you don't have all the details, don't pull a Hughdad and make yourself look like an asshole...rookie!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]You are an idiot, who thinks he knows everything after a pathetic little week in Rio, next time some gdp's police friend will be marching you down the atm machine. You would be suprised how fast news travels in Rio.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Beach Star/Sperto[/b],
I am planning to move to Rio at the end of next year.
Would it be difficult for me to enroll in a language course at PUC? I would like to take a Portuguese course. What is the application process like if I will not be enrolled full-time? Fill out a form and pay the tuition? Any other qualifications necessary?
Thanks for any information you can provide.[/QUOTE]
It's 16 years ago since I studied at PUC so I can't provide you with any updated info. Send an email to Departamento de Letras/PUC and ask for info.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Beach Star/Sperto[/b],
I am planning to move to Rio at the end of next year.

Would it be difficult for me to enroll in a language course at PUC? I would like to take a Portuguese course. What is the application process like if I will not be enrolled full-time? Fill out a form and pay the tuition? Any other qualifications necessary?

Thanks for any information you can provide.[/QUOTE

Further to Sperto`s post try [url]http://www.cce.puc-rio.br/letras/portuguesingles.htm[/url]

Good luck!!

Damn Rodeo you have pissed of these sensative guys in this room. You've fuck the shit out of their Beauiful Brazilian *****s and belittled them and now they are hoping that you get jammed up by the cops. What part of the gam is this. Sounds like these guys love dem hoes. LOL.

LMAO.come back to the DR thread where you belong. LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]You are an idiot, who thinks he knows everything after a pathetic little week in Rio, next time some gdp's police friend will be marching you down the atm machine. You would be suprised how fast news travels in Rio.[/QUOTE]

Thats a phat juicy ass Rodeo!!! I hope you were able to handle all that ass.. Beast ass post, keep doin your thang.

[QUOTE=Sperto] As a foreign student at PUC the scoring chances are very high. When you get to know the rich PUC girls they are just as safada as their poorer "sisters" living on the morro. :D[/QUOTE]

But I bet you don't call them "safada" to their faces or you might get slapped. You are so safado!

Heading down to Rio tomorrow and will be seeking out the cuties who are "magrinha, com bunda linda, e safadinha".

- DSK

"So we went and danced in the club for awhile. Around 3am, I was walking to the bar to get a drink and a girl grabs my arm and pulls me over to her group of friends. She then speaks Portuguese saying "o meu amigo quer um beijo de você" (my friend wants a kiss from you). At this point, I was thinking "Is this really happening?" It was kind of surreal. Her friend was super cute, girl-next-door type. So I tried to make her laugh by asking her if she spoke these far-off Asian languages "fala coreano? fala japonais?" She then says "nao fala" and starts speaking English. All of a sudden, all these girls surrounding me start speaking English. Turns out, they all go to PUC. Anyway, the girl didn't really want a kiss. Her friends were just screwing around with her. Another girl points to her friend and says in English "My friend wants a one-night stand with you". Of course, I just play along and say OK. Nothing happened after that, as I knew they were just teasing. "

Thanks for the intel on this club. That goes on my to-do list for next trip.

So, you got PHYSICALLY pulled into set, the first girl SAYS her friend wants a kiss, another friend SAYS a different girl wants a one night stand, and they all speak ENGLISH to keep you in set. Dude, the set was yours to lose. Of course they were teasing, but THEY started it. And its simply your cue to tease back (saying you heard PUC girls CAN'T kiss, or you normally charge for something like that, but if they're nice you'll give them a sample, or the friend can have a ONS with you only if she asks nicely in Portuguese, etc.) Or teasing the friend who pulled you in set with "do you always pick up foreign guys for your friend or just today?" At least you hung in there. Which girl seemed most interested? You could have gone for the isolation within the club with her, or have her help you with your Portuguese, show you around PUC, find out what they're doing after, etc.

Again, thanks for the reports, info on non-pro venues ALWAYS appreciated.

I can honestly say rodeo has given one of the most amazing reports so far this year.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]You are an idiot, who thinks he knows everything after a pathetic little week in Rio, next time some gdp's police friend will be marching you down the atm machine. You would be suprised how fast news travels in Rio.[/QUOTE]Shut up bro; give it a rest. It was an oversight, not malicious!

[QUOTE=Sperto]The last days we hade long reports from Azn Safado, Lukasek, Rodeo9112 and Genghis Khan. Four mongers describing four different mongering-styles. That's not bad.

Reading about how other mongers makes the girls "cum" and how they f**ked them four times in one night, that's not in my interest. I find info presented in the GPGuia-way far more useful. Address, price, time, names and notes on how the girls performed.

Still, well-written reports might have value even though they lack any useful info. They might have value as being entertaining. Tungurahua and his old VM-reports were masterpieces in the art of making entertaining reports.[/QUOTE]I admit to my deficiencies. I definitely waited too long to post and forgot alot of details; sorry!

[QUOTE=Beach Star] [url]http://www.cce.puc-rio.br/letras/portuguesingles.htm[/url]

[/QUOTE]

I viewed the link above and I discovered that the cost for one semester (90 hours) of Level 1, 2 or 3 is 2910 Reais (or approximately $1600 US Dollars using an exchange rate of 1.82). This is about $18 US Dollars an hour (1600/90). Is this a fair price?

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]You posted a video ON THE INTERNET of a girl sucking you off while saying, "No filmie, no filme..." You can't be claiming to treat them respectfully after that. Do you really expect people to be impressed because you paid a girl to suck your dick? Or do you need other people to acknowledge that it actually happened or else you might not believe it yourself? If you weren't seeking some kind of glory or attention here, why would you trample everyone in your path?

YOU DON'T LIVE IN RIO. You don't know what it's like for these girls. You don't talk to them every day. You're either so sick to be acknowledged that you don't think about anyone else involved, or you lack the basic equipment required to be a decent fucking human being. If you ever find yourself wondering why you have to pay for ass, I suggest you start there.

And me, I'm not a praying man, but dear God, I pray that you come back in the next life as a Brazilian hooker and have to take some dirtbag's huge dick in your ass several times every day, and then have the money for the towels, the robes, the soap, and even the fucking condoms extracted from you on a weekly basis. There would be some justice in that.[/QUOTE]Nope. Don't care. It's all about me. I paid my tokens, so I get to play the game until I run out. By the way, I doubt most here HAVE to pay for ass; its a choice, just like what the girls choose to do for a living. Even if they don't seem to have a choice, they do. No, I don't live in Rio, but I do know what its like...trust me. As for your character assaults on me, well, I'm gonna take the high road and just chalk it up to your being an insecure prick who got beat up alot as a kid, never got a girl yourself, and just sits around all day hiding behind his computer and making negative comments about other people as you download snuff videos, eat Funyons and big gulp soda while you jerk off to the stories that pimp ass dudes (not unlike myself) relay for your entertainment pleasure. I won't tell you to eat a dick cuz, well, I know you like to keep certain things private!

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Christopherd]I was commenting on a general attitude that Jesuscola mentioned and that I personally dislike as much as he does. Regarding Rodeo, I don't personally much care for his recent posts but plenty of other people do and he puts plenty of work in them: there's room for more than one reporting style in here hopefully![/QUOTE]Thanks for the benefit of the doubt! I admit that my posts can come across pretty harsh, especially since I try to only write them when I've had a few to drink...makes 'em funnier in my opinion; some may disagree. Truthfully, I have no intent of ever offending anyone or "relishing" in the misery of the girls. I may use some harsh language for effect, but, fuck, we're all adults here and I figured folks could handle it--I suppose I was wrong. Thanks again for being agreeable in your disagreement.

Rodeo

[QUOTE=Beach Star][/QUOTE

Further to Sperto`s post try [url]http://www.cce.puc-rio.br/letras/portuguesingles.htm[/url]

Good luck!![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the link. It is has the information I needed!

[QUOTE=Drgn]

Thanks for the intel on this club. That goes on my to-do list for next trip.

So, you got PHYSICALLY pulled into set, the first girl SAYS her friend wants a kiss, another friend SAYS a different girl wants a one night stand, and they all speak ENGLISH to keep you in set. Dude, the set was yours to lose. Of course they were teasing, but THEY started it. And its simply your cue to tease back (saying you heard PUC girls CAN'T kiss, or you normally charge for something like that, but if they're nice you'll give them a sample, or the friend can have a ONS with you only if she asks nicely in Portuguese, etc.) Or teasing the friend who pulled you in set with "do you always pick up foreign guys for your friend or just today?" At least you hung in there. Which girl seemed most interested? You could have gone for the isolation within the club with her, or have her help you with your Portuguese, show you around PUC, find out what they're doing after, etc.

Again, thanks for the reports, info on non-pro venues ALWAYS appreciated.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, I've thrown some playful negs at Brazilian girls before and sometimes they take it the wrong way, or it gets "lost in translation". So I am way more cautious nowadays. The girl that supposedly wanted the one-night stand seemed most interested, but it didn't really cross my mind to pursue anything because I only had a couple of days left in Rio and wasn't really willing to work at pursuing a non-pro under time constraints. I would have taken a different approach if I stayed longer term in Rio, which will happen in the future.

[QUOTE=The Watcher]I viewed the link above and I discovered that the cost for one semester (90 hours) of Level 1, 2 or 3 is 2910 Reais (or approximately $1600 US Dollars using an exchange rate of 1.82). This is about $18 US Dollars an hour (1600/90). Is this a fair price?[/QUOTE]
I find it very expensive. When I studied at PUC they had two kinds of programs. One program was for paying foreign students and the other was as like a kind of exchange-student. I went for the latter, even though there were no real exchange.

I took Portuguese and two more courses in one semester and only paid a small fee each month. I guess things have changed.

The teaching was excellent. Still I find US$ 18/hour expensive. That's R$ 32/hour. R$ 0,5/minute... half the BA85-price.

Lots of talk on these boards about Brazilian girls, etc... She is a 5, she is a 10.

Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise).

She is 10.

You go to Help, Meia pataca, etc.. big money will buy a 9. But Michael Jordan with $10,000 will not get a girl like her in Help or anywhere in Rio.

Sorry if I bug anyone. That is 10 in Brazil, OK?

Guys when you go to Brazil, just play it cool.

The best thing about Rio is honeymoon sex in Buzious or Parati

[QUOTE=Misinformation]Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise).
She is 10. [/QUOTE]
37 year-old MILF.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]an insecure prick who got beat up alot as a kid, never got a girl yourself, and just sits around all day hiding behind his computer and making negative comments about other people as you download snuff videos, eat Funyons and big gulp soda while you jerk off to the stories that pimp ass dudes relay for your entertainment pleasure. I won't tell you to eat a dick cuz, well, I know you like to keep certain things private!

Rodeo[/QUOTE]

Wow....That is one hell of a scary image you painted Bro.:-) When are you going to RIO again? I have a free ticket waiting .....

Cheers

A158

For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)[/QUOTE]
Doing a little research, I fond this article which also might be of interest.
[url]http://www.postoseis.com.br/default.asp?coluna=Reportagem+especial[/url]

[QUOTE=Misinformation]Lots of talk on these boards about Brazilian girls, etc... She is a 5, she is a 10. Ivete Sangalo is 10. Google her. (seriously. I am not into thiis celeb-bullshit but you will like what you see - I promise). She is 10.. That is 10 in Brazil, OK?[/QUOTE]

A ten in Brasil is a six with money. :D

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)[/QUOTE]
The only thing you left out is R$s! So I take it that's the type they prefer.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]The only thing you left out is R$s! So I take it that's the type they prefer.[/QUOTE]

Since you asked, it's the premature ejaculators ;o)

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]Since you asked, it's the premature ejaculators ;o)[/QUOTE]
I knew I was good for something (or somebody)!

[QUOTE=Sperto]37 year-old MILF.[/QUOTE]

Damn !!
Does that make Daniela Mercury a 44 year old Grand-Milf ??

M

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]For anyone who reads Portuguese well and really wants to know what goes on behind the scenes at a termas, I can recommend the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. She gets some things wrong--she doesn't try to understand the men--but she gets a lot right. She gets close. It's actually a lot darker and more cynical on the girls' side of things than she understands. She spends more time putting them down for lack of education than she does trying to understand their experience and perspective. So she comes off as more than a little stuck on herself.

But if you want the inside information, that book will get you a taste. Make sure you want it, though. You might not be pleased by what you read. (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)[/QUOTE]

For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Dwilso39]For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Jesuscola is your man for this. According to him (see previous posts) he is a paid pimp for all the termas in Rio. He should be able to tell you without reference to a book.

Rodeio, I didn`t like your style or attitude either, but you do not deserve cricism from people like this.

[QUOTE=Beach Star]Jesuscola is your man for this. According to him (see previous posts) he is a paid pimp for all the termas in Rio. He should be able to tell you without reference to a book.

Rodeio, I didn`t like your style or attitude either, but you do not deserve cricism from people like this.[/QUOTE]

Hahahahahah!!! That's hilarious. You must be in politics. ;o)

[QUOTE=Dwilso39]For those of us that do not read protuguese well, can you give us a breif book report; or give us five "new" facts about termas that we don't know?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Well, I'm about halfway through it so far. The funniest story yet involves a girl yelling at a client "Shit out my press-on nail! I want it back! " According to the book, about 85% of guys want something or other stuck up their asses. The numbers I get from the girls is more like 50% Americans, 80% Brazilians, and %100 percent Italians, but who am I to quibble.

She also really gives it to the termas owners. I don't think she's got a single good thing to say about them. She barely changed the names--just a letter or two, so it's pretty easy to figure out who's who.

As for the other stuff, I learned a long time ago that most guys really don't want to hear the truth. They pay for the fantasy--which the girls work hard to maintain. And you can rarely say, "This is 100%, in all cases, true." There are always exceptions--but they're strongly in the minority. I don't really want to get deep into discussing those parts of the book. But it's out there if you've the will to get to it. Maybe another member will contribute.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jesuscola] ... the book "O Primeiro Sexo," by Carolina Boechat, a former receptionist at L'uomo. ... (You will learn definitively, for example, which men the girls prefer. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with skin color, race, nationality, eye color, religion, politics, age, or how well you hit it. I'll leave it at that.)[/QUOTE] Where can one buy this book? It is not available on Amazon.
And which kind of men do the girls prefer? That would be nice to know ...
Regards.
B.B.

[QUOTE=Bimbo Boy]Where can one buy this book? It is not available on Amazon.
And which kind of men do the girls prefer? That would be nice to know ...
Regards.
B.B.[/QUOTE]

I picked it up at a bookstore in Rio. It just came out a few weeks ago.

As to the other question, I revealed the book's answer to that further down. The truth, as I understand it, is a little more complicated. If she's actually physically attracted to the guy, then, yes, she may enjoy the sex. OTOH, I know a girl who worked in a termas for six years. She tells me she only ever had a real orgasm twice--both times with guys she was physically disgusted by. Go figure. As to what really physically attracts a girl, well, as near as I can tell, they're all different. A few girls have a thing for a certain look, other girls can't stand that type of guy.

You can only make a rule for about 99% of cases. The other 1% is the tricky part.

This bookstore might have it. Don't know if they'll deliver to the US or not.

[url]http://www.livrariasaraiva.com.br/[/url]

EDIT: Yes, it appears they will deliver to North America.

Best to you.

[QUOTE=Jesuscola]I picked it up at a bookstore in Rio.....[/QUOTE]

Surely not in a carstore ;) but please tell us where you bought it, instead of where it should be found, as I called ALL the library listed here right now and no one have it.

Obrigado.

[url]http://copacabana.com/livraria.shtml[/url]

There is an article and accompanying author interview (video) to be found here.

[url]http://odia.terra.com.br/portal/rio/html/2009/8/livro_desnuda_o_templo_do_sexo_31025.html[/url]

The author says in the interview, in ET's link, that the book is sold in Livraria Bolivar, Rua Bolivar. Close to cinema Roxy.

[QUOTE=Sperto]The author says in the interview in ET's link that the book is sold in Livraria Bolivar, Rua Bolivar. Close to cinema Roxy.[/QUOTE]

That's where I got mine.

The garden in question being the Jardim Botanico area of RJ, as opposed to your Judeo-Christian garden of eden. It had been a couple of years since I had visited Solarium. One reason is that it´s rather out of the way. Another reason being that I haven´t been overly impresed with the talent there the past few years. I remember the days when a lady by the name of Priscilla would work at the desk. I always thought she was a rather attractive lady who practically oozed sex. Back in those days I had many good nights spent at the Solarium. Anyway, I arrive there around 6PM and greet the new dames at the front desk. They inform me that Priscilla hasn´t worked there for quite a while, é uma pena, but I she had always said that she was studying to get into a different line of work.

I got changed and said hi to some of the regular staff and yakked a bit with some of the local clients. Get showered, opt not to use the sauna this night, and head into the boite. Maybe I´m just jaded from all my travels, but though there were plenty of ladies to choose from only one or two really caught my eye. Half of them being to "thick" for my tastes. I took in the scene for maybe 20 minutes when all of a sudden Lila strolls up the stairs. This lovely lady has been bouncing back and forth from Monte Carlo to Solarium for the past few years. I saw her at MC fairly recently, but obviously she´s back at the Jardim. As soon as she saw me she plopped on my lap and gave me some kises. I prefer to go with gals on my first day of a trip, but I couldn´t turn down her advances this time. She´s a MILF-type with slightly reddish hair and a well maintained body.

After a bit of drinking and catching up we go to the one a only suite and spent a good hour in the hydromassage (she loves the hydro), on the cama, and even had some fun on the sex chair. Always have a good time with her and I´ve been with her far more often that I go with most ladies. She told me that she plans to work as a tour guide by the start of next year and will retire from the GDP biz. I certainly wish her the best with her goals. Apparantly she´s studying English, but we spent the entire time speaking in Portuguese. We traded contact info - after getting cleaned up we chatted a bit more back out in the boite.

I hung out for a while longer but in the end opted not to take another gal because I simply wasn´t all that hot on any of them. Call me picky. Left around 10PM and the total damage was around R$440. Fair price and a decent way to star my Rio trip. Perhaps tomorrow I will dive into more decadent ventures ..... a saruba perhaps?

"O tempora, O mores"
- DSK

I got the book in the livraria bolivar, thanks guys.

I will read it and take it as chance to improve my portuguese,but I do not believe I will get some original or new info about termas, as on one side I think Carolina was very smart writing one book that was not written before, but I think she wrote more than one bullshit, as the fact that girls are not allow to take drugs....we know they take it, not every, but many of them.

And even more, I think that a woman that worked at front desk all the time, doesn't know much about girls, surely less than a barman and much less than the girls themselfs.

Btw she was supposed to work at luomo,but there nobody know her and her book.

However once I will read it, I will report my POV.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]I got the book in the livraria bolivar, thanks guys.

I will read it and take it as chance to improve my portuguese,but I do not believe I will get some original or new info about termas, as on one side I think Carolina was very smart writing one book that was not written before, but I think she wrote more than one bullshit, as the fact that girls are not allow to take drugs....we know they take it, not every, but many of them.

And even more, I think that a woman that worked at front desk all the time, doesn't know much about girls, surely less than a barman and much less than the girls themselfs.

Btw she was supposed to work at luomo,but there nobody know her and her book.

However once I will read it, I will report my POV.[/QUOTE]

Hahahah! And so it begins...

First of all, there's a difference between not being allowed to take drugs and taking them anyway. I know girls who've been fired for getting too drunk, too often. Second, I know someone who spent a lot of time in Luomo and remembers her working there and saying she was writing a book. Third, she may not know as much as the girls themselves, but everything she says is perfectly in line with what I know.

But of course, you won't believe it if you really don't want to.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado][b]Citibank[/b]

[b]Club 00[/b]
My Uni friend wanted to take us to a nightclub so I suggested one with hot young girls. She decided on taking us to Club 00.
[/QUOTE]

Club 00 is GLS on a number of nights during the week, choose your night carefully, I recommend checking the listings in the newspapers before going. Food is excellent.
Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.

[QUOTE=Abzsafado]......Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.[/QUOTE]

[url]www.00site.com.br[/url]

Avenida Padre Leonel Franca, 240 - Gavea, Planetario - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Tel: 55 21 25408041

[QUOTE=Abzsafado]Club 00 is GLS on a number of nights during the week, choose your night carefully, I recommend checking the listings in the newspapers before going. Food is excellent.
Can be hard to find if you don't know exactly where it is.[/QUOTE]

What does GSL mean?

Just to try something different I decided to pay Termas Aeroporto a visit. I´ve never been a fan of this place because IMO it´s always staffed with a bunch of fat chicks. However, I´ve already visited the majority of the better Termas so I figured a trip there for a couple of hours couldn´t hurt (going with low expectations helps). I was greeted at reception and surprised to learn that they no longer require you to pay for the entrance in advance. I got changed and showered and then toured to facilities. Since I come her so rarely I get a little lost - and this place isn´t even very big.

As I figured, the stafff was 95% fat chicks. But this seems to be what the well-to-do Brasilian business guys like .... they of course make up the vast majority of the clients that come here. So for you guys that like your women "thick", ie. "fat" this may well be the place for you. The facilities are quite nice and at least they had a good DJ who was spinning out mixes of forro, pegode, and other MPBs - no rap or funke; thank goodness. The only thin lady there was quite attractive, ironically when I spoke with her she told me that we had been together a couple of years ago when she worked at Solarium. I must say that I don´t remember her at all, but she said that back then she was well defined and muscular. Her arms are puny now so I found that hard to believe. She said that she used steroids back then but had to stop because the stuff was damaging her heart. Good idea. She told that we had good sex together in the past. Scheisse! I can´t even remember her name. We talked for a few minutes and then I decided to head out.

Had a nice chat with the lady at reception, though she seemed to take offense when I told her I only like thin gals - she being being rather "curvy" herself. Maybe I´ll check it out again in another 3 to four years.

- DSK

I got right now the first 3some of my life, I will be short, as I am going out.....the potencial to have 2 girls at same time is great, but the chance to be ripped off are double too....I thought could be better, I do not regret and will follow full report as usually.
Have fun guys
p.s. I am more horny than 1 hour ago :(

[QUOTE=Bravo]What does GSL mean?[/QUOTE]

Gay Lesbian Sympathizer

Writing from bedroom....she is sleeping....after 3some....I could not be more lucky......more to follow ;)

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Writing from bedroom....she is sleeping....after 3some....I could not be more lucky......more to follow ;)[/QUOTE]
Why don't you just move this to Twitter[SIZE="1"]®[/SIZE]? :rolleyes:

From when my friend arrived I really had no free time to post, as we always did something, that I stayed in my flat just for sleep,but today is cloudy here, so let's write something.

We went a couple of times to the all the main termas, so:


Montecarlo:
The first one I visited, what I have to said it is that never judge a terma by sunday night, as the first time on sunday MT disappointed me, cause there were about 14 girls and only 2 nice, but during the week I count often something as 35-40 girls. I guess all the girls who have kids choose sunday as day off.
Actually I took from there just one girl, but totally GFE, included a quite nice prostatic massage ( for the second time in my life....) during a great bbbj, anal included too, the same as dfk and daty.
I am a bit exigent and I like to have at least 20-30 minutes of conversation before to decide to take the girl to cabine, but from the 3 girls I took from the 3 different termas I was satisfied at 110% !!!
I like MT and so far as I remember I did not see there any of the girls I saw in jan-march.
Maybe if I have to find one weak point is that most of girls just sit down and no dance at all, I mean, you have the atmospere of relax, but you do not get much fun to looking to the girls.



Luomo
Luomo surprised me in a very good way, as it was nothing special for me in march, mainly cause the girls were very "tired",passive, how can I explain ? I meant they just sit down, some almost falling asleep.
Not during this week, when I enjoyed all the time I went there, now luomo has really a feeling of a party, the girls are happy, they smile and I saw some new girls and nice ones, I did not see in jan-march.
I took a nice, very nice blond, white skin that gave me the feeling to be too nice to be passionate in bed, but during my conversation with her, the way she french kissed me, made me feel, maybe I was wrong and, surely I was, as again it was a GFE full service and I only regret I cannot bang her all night long instead of the 1 hour I took her. ( yes, 40 minutes was too little time for such a nice girl).
What looks strange to me, the kinds of girls you see at luomo, you never see walking in the streets, so it seems that a girl 9' (from 1 to 10) is a real not common stuff in Rio. I do not regret too much, as I do not need 100 girls top notch, but maybe this 9' girls are sometimes a bit selfish cause they feel they are not common stuff.
Not that mine girl was cold, the opposite, but maybe I was just lucky or maybe it is a good idea to have a long conversation with her before to decide and to ask about what she likes or not likes in sex and yes....I never took a girl to cabine that does not passionate french kiss me.
So overall luomo not big place, not big selection, but it surely worth it, great atmospere and million times better than 6 months ago.



Cheap termas:
I always listen and read here about the many cheap terma in centro but I was too lazy to check the forum and to to find them, also I was afraid there I could get a fuck with cheap price but not with a great quality girl and...indeed I was right.
I asked my friend to bring me there, so:


BA65,if correct, I mean the one on 5 or 6 floors with a very little stair.....I never saw a such dirty place with such a ugly girls, oh yes, cheap, something as 23 reais 20 minutes of fuck, but I surely can get a much deeper and nicer orgasm with my hand instead to get a girl there with the big difference that after an handjob I do not feel sad as surely I did if I banged someobdy there.....
The stair is amazing little and I am not a big guy, it worth to see where local go to have sex, but nobody will convince me to have sex there, cause if the bar,table,floor looks so old and dirty, I think on the bedroom you can get and catch all the diseases you want.....


Bigger stair, same floors:
the second one, is similar to the first one, many floor connected with a circle stair, it looks a bit better, they have a quite nice girl, thin, petite, cute, but the place is dirty as the first one, so I was only waiting to move to another place once we finished our beers.


504 or 502 (something like that)
After we took an acai, we saw a nice girl walking "too" fast in the street, so we thought, lets just follow her for a while, she went inside this a bit better level of terma, I do not remember exactly the number, the experts here surely can understand about which terma I am talking about.
It looks better, but the girl that went inside talked for about 10 minutes with a barman and then she left and the other girls were pretty garbage, so we again drunk our beers and we went out.


However what can I say is that even an afternoon like this, is a really great day if you are, as I was, together a good friend, cause you joke, share experiences, have fun, so at the end not much matter if sex or not, friendship over every kind of girls you can have. Have a great buddy and not much matter where you are.


Solarium:
It disapppointed me, but I was there on sunday, so I really need to go there again to judge correctly.........it seems on sunday is slow everywhere.


4X4
Here we are :)
The biggest terma with cheaper price than the ones in copa.
It was the first time I saw 4x4 not much packed, so it was a very nice surprise as there you cannot enjoy all the time, cause too many persons in the same place.
It was monday, I soon found about 5 girls I could be very happy to bang, so I started to speak with one.....that was so sweet, we started to dance,to kiss, I bought her a drink....she did anal.....that's all what I need LOL.
Seriously, I remember her from march, but in that time she was very shy, this time, very friendly and I did not have to watch her long time, as I knew she has an amazing body.
What was very nice is her attitude, if she born in another country, and if maybe a bit taller, she could easily be a model and earn tons of money, here is a pro so friendly as only a 100 kg woman usually is.....she was the kind of woman that makes you think.....hey,maybe to get married is not a very bad idea, at least to have a girlfriend like this, as her only bad point-mistake is she lives on the other side of the world where I live, but from the quality of her body till her attitude, from her fire in sex till....yes, till the great smell and taste of her wet pussy, she was just......perfect !!!!
Am I in love with her ? No, but one more time I hate the sex prison where I live....yes, the same old story for every of us.....somebody could say I am writing nothing new here, it is true, but maybe there are some mongers at home that never been to terma in Rio, so I try to make them understand that for experience as I had it surely worth to come here and to worth, at least for me, to stay away from cheap termas, to pay a bit more, to get model type.
Maybe I am really exigent, but I am middle 30 years old, used to go often to Russia, so I like as I am, cause when I will be older, I will remember the top notch girl I had and not how many garbage girls I got. It is just me, I do not judge anybody here, I just share my point of view.
However monday at 4x4 not many customers and at least 5 great girls, yesterday, friday, full of customers and I saw only 2 of the 5 great girls I saw. Honestly, yesterday it seems to me another terma, me and my friends we thought that maybe some nice girls earned enough money during the week that they did not showed up on friday and they started the weekend one day earlier. ( we were there about 2 hours, so we saw all the girls).
Nice to report the first girl I got, when she saw me, she did not came to kiss me and hug me, but she....jumped to me, ok maybe she only had nice time and she is working trying to get me for another 40 minutes, but I really got the feeling she was happy to see me, the same as me for her.


So now I wrote something more than twitter ;) (but nice joke indeed), I hope you enjoyed the report and so far as one photo is better than 1000 words, I add something :)

More to follow asap.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Bigger stair, same floors:
the second one, is similar to the first one, many floor connected with a circle stair, it looks a bit better, they have a quite nice girl, thin, petite, cute, but the place is dirty as the first one, so I was only waiting to move to another place once we finished our beers.[/QUOTE]
I imagine that "BA65" would be BA85, but what place is the other one; "Bigger star", "circle stair"?

[QUOTE=Sperto]I imagine that "BA65" would be BA85, but what place is the other one; "Bigger star", "circle stair"?[/QUOTE]
I imagine he means Uruguiana

Yes I think BA85 if I remember correctly it is the same street of 4x4 so buenos aires rua, right ?
And yes again, the second place has the same circle stair as BA85 has, but a bit wider stair.
Back now from solarium, my friend got nice experience, me the first one bad session in a week here, so I am more than happy and however was my fault, I did not test her enough with long conversation, I was too horny, too in hurry.
I will report this too later.
Have a nice saturday night fever ;) to everybody :)

Very nice report Luka!
Was that Cassandra, a curly brunette with an amazing body? I saw her at MC during Carnaval week and she was awesome specially orally and with prostate massaging. It was also my first time and she blew me away with her out of this world oral skills.
Btw, there was also another fabulously orally skilled girl at the time at MC, a tall, brunette with short hair and very sexy, very cool chic to talk to as we spent a good hour just chatting there. Her name is Patricia. She had an incredible technic when it comes to BJ, words cannot describe it other than it makes go gaga. Try her, you'll know what I mean...If you see her, do not miss her, she will blow your mind. And a wonderful kisser too. Very ninfetinha and namoradinha inside the cabin. If you're into a passionate lovemaking session, she'd be a great pick.
Btw, are these 2 still at MC (Cassandra and Patricia)?

[QUOTE=Lukasek]
Montecarlo:

Actually I took from there just one girl, but totally GFE, included a quite nice prostatic massage ( for the second time in my life....) during a great bbbj, anal included too, the same as dfk and daty.
[/QUOTE]

From Sperto's guide, Bubba's or just RTFF-ing you'll get all these (though admittedly harder to find on the ground on your first visit).

All approx 1R a minute, times are approx and facilities (floors open, numbers of girls) vary widely outside of main weekday daytime hours or 1-6pm.

[b]Rua Buenos Aires 85[/b] 10am-8pm
This is the legendary narrow spiral staircase. Same street as 4x4 but on the other side (Metro side) of the main road (Rio Branco). Some parts are filthy but otherwise some good pickings and private arrangements possible with some girls. Budget end. What do expect? Sheepskin rugs?

[b]Rua Buenos Aires 113. [/b]9am-9pm
Same street again, but even nearer the Metro. Pink entrance, normal staircase. Girls just stand around in one big poorly lit room when you walk in. Single floor, with a further level to consummate the business once you've picked a girl On the whole, mostly mingers but an occasional doable. Unhygeinic even by donkey droppings standards.

[b]Rua Uruguaiana 24[/b] 10am-8pm (open till maybe 3pm Sat)
In the pedestrianised street that runs alongside the metro of the same name but at right angles to Rua Buenos Aires. Entrance hidden behind a newsstand so easily missed. Often has a guy selling overpriced fake watches at the door. Circular staircase but, unlike Buenos Aires 85, wide enough to pass someone without rubbing against their crotch or climbing onto the railing. Several levels, similar to BA85. A bit closer to the Carioca metro station that the Uruguiana one.

Most 'spender' visitors might avoid such places. But a lot like them. Just repeating the info here for anyone wandering thru the labyrinthine forum with aching feet.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]All approx 1R a minute, times are approx and facilities (floors open, numbers of girls) vary widely outside of main weekday daytime hours or 1-6pm...[/QUOTE]
A very good description.

Of these three I prefer BA85 without doubt.

I also had some very nice girls at Uruguaiana 24, but it's a bit annoying that the cabins are next to the tables where the guys are drinking beer. Very noisy. Makes it a bit difficult to concentrate...

BA113... I entered there many times when heading for BA85. I have never seen any doable girls. The smell is awful.

P.S Speaking about staircases. BA85 is the most narrow. Still it's amazing how people manage to pass each other in the staircase. It takes some training, especially when you try to descend quickly wearing Havaianas and some shopping bags. Imagine a fire in BA85 and everybody running for the stairs...

Going to Brazil in late November. Anyone have any updates on help. How is the talent there these days? Also how is the season like?

Sprite13,

honestly I do not remember her name, as I spoke with about 40 girls in 10 days here and hard to remember the name they use inside the terma if often after a while they tell you the real name too :(

[QUOTE=Lukasek][url]www.00site.com.br[/url]

Avenida Padre Leonel Franca, 240 - Gavea, Planetario - Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Tel: 55 21 25408041[/QUOTE]
I had the address was with a Brasileira, carioca, and still struggled. It was half hidden behind the planetario.

[QUOTE=Abzsafado]I had the address was with a Brasileira, carioca, and still struggled. It was half hidden behind the planetario.[/QUOTE]Most taxi drivers in zone zul will have no problem finding it.

Do you mean you trust less the address written in the web page of 00 than what your friend told you ? LOL

It is so hidden everybody seems to know it.....and yes, there is only one 00 club in all Rio, so no chance to get to another club with the same name....

Hey sprite13, I just take a look to gpguia, Montecarlo thread, that's what they say about Cassandra that oral is her bad point, so who knows ?

05.5) Ponto Fraco e Ponto Forte segundo a sua ótica;

Fraco : oral e o desempenho.

Forte : O anal. O rosto.

Right now got girl from ciaplus...i sent her back in 5 seconds....she neither was surprised....more to follow

Luka,
That's very strange because I found her oral skills her best asset when I took her to the cabin back during Carnaval week. Before taking her, I spent about a good 30-40 minutes chatting and making out with her. I found her very responsive that time.

However, on another night, when I returned to MC and saw her, she was a bit cold and distant so didn't repeat with her. I guess it's all a matter of her mood and how you get along with her. A classic case of YMMV.

P.S. I love your twitter updates!:D Is there a Rio Mongers Twitter group? How about you create one? I'd be the first to join!:D

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Right now got girl from ciaplus. I sent her back in 5 seconds. She neither was surprised. More to follow[/QUOTE]On subject of ciaplus I set up a call out for an amigo, was told luana would be turning up and price as advertised on promotion on website was $R100 for 2hrs (plus taxi) Bait and switch turned up but dooable, she then said $R100 was for 1hr & said $R130 for 2hrs, basically she scammed the extra $R30 as was getting late on, she was timid poor\no performer adament she was infact luana so no real name to advise here. My amigo was in centro took her to near by LIPS motel $R55 for 4hrs for top suite on a Sat night. Room was adaquete but appears this motel in the past could have been a top motel but its just ageing and run down but handy location, cheapest is $R35 for room.

Apart from these problems tried several agencys for considerable time with no joy then remembered ciaplus, woman answered phone quickly and seemed genuine with her responses to questions asked and she ableit the wrong girl turned up bang on time for the meet, basically quite like their website and some of the girls, so wouldn't write them of yet, well depends what Lukasek got to say on his next twitter post LOL.

Yeah, the twitters are funny!

Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sunday

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sunday[/QUOTE]

I felt like I just got out of a washing machine right after reading this report! :)

[QUOTE=Mangera]I felt like I just got out of a washing machine right after reading this report! :)[/QUOTE]

....that's how I feel too after living all this and that's maybe cause I am not able to fall asleep now....if I do not sleep in half hour, it will be 1:00 am and I go out again cause....I love to sleep with a girl close to me.....not to mention how my little friend is happy to wake up at morning close to sweet wet strawberry with 4 lips.....damn it....I am in Rio....nobody should sleep alone here LOL ;)

p.s. anybody interested to open a terma working in night time in copa ? LOL

Guys I'll be in Rio in 2 weeks and going to explore Lapa in the evening. Anyone have recomendations about where to go? I was thinking of going to Rio Scenarium for dinner, drinks and the live music show. Any suggestions?

Geo

Amazing girl,amazing body and service too from 4x4....I feel so good...p.s. I have pictures too :)

[QUOTE=Geofagus]Guys I'll be in Rio in 2 weeks and going to explore Lapa in the evening. Anyone have recomendations about where to go? I was thinking of going to Rio Scenarium for dinner, drinks and the live music show. Any suggestions?

Geo[/QUOTE]
I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there. There's a good restaurant called Mangue Secos diagonally across from Rio Scenarium that is worth a try.
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[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there.[/QUOTE]
I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.

Imagine my surprise when I strolled out of the dressing room, took the turns to go to the relax room on the way to the showers and found a new wall. No relax room! It is not clear what is going on because one girl said something about a new room having internet that the girls would somehow use but they told me in reception they were putting in a better relax room. We will see eventually.

They have added an LCD in the boite running various Luomo adds. They will put
on football if you ask. One interesting development is that L is celebrating its 30th anniversary. The 30th of every month, they have a special show. Was there Aug. 30 and it was very funny. Thursdays are advertised as having a lingerie show.

It was pretty quiet, not many guys,cold and raining which is all good IMHO. Girls are bored so they are fresh and enthusiastic when you choose them. Lots of fresh new talent.

BTW, no dinner, but they do have soup every night. Maybe dinner will come back with the new relax room. Maybe competion is improving things. Personally, I would rather see the price lowered but that is not likely. Most likely they would raise it after the renovation.

Anybody have more information?

I need a fiador urgently in the next 2 days. I am willing to pay a substantial amount per month. It is for 2 locations in Rio. If anyone is able or knowing a fiador, please contact me ASAP. The fiador is for the place of business(building). They basically need someone that has real estate already in Rio, that will cosign on the real estate rental contract. Thanks.

Viper10

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Imagine my surprise when I strolled out of the dressing room, took the turns to go to the relax room on the way to the showers and found a new wall. No relax room! It is not clear what is going on because one girl said something about a new room having internet that the girls would somehow use but they told me in reception they were putting in a better relax room.[/QUOTE]

Yeh, L´uomo just isn´t the same without the relax room to chill at. Hopefully they are in fact making a better lounge with computers/internet to boot. Then we can catch up on our e-mails while snuggling up with a Brasilian hottie.

When I visited there last week they were showing some rather graphic porn on the new LCD in the boate. I wasn´t super impressed with the talent but I´ve definitely seen worse. Unfortunately I won´t be around for the festa at the end of the month. Have been clocking a lot of hours at Quatro por Quatro.

- DSK

Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?[/QUOTE]

You will see a few in Rio, but Sampa has the highest concentration of Japanese Bunda.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Montecarlo...nothing interesting.....then to Centaurus, closed on sunday, to Solarium...much worst than yesterday, when I got a disaster with MILF,today half disaster...still horny so let's been ripped off....to Marius....terraco atlantico very slow...it's raining....back to apartment to write e mail to my slovak girlfriend :) ....sunday definetely sad sunday[/QUOTE]You have to get used that you need to take a day off on Rio's sundays.

After all the whole western world does. LOL

I usually go to Canecao for a good show. Especially if it is a rainy Sunday!

On the ground and running well not quite needed a nap after the 9.5 hour flight from the US.

Here in Copa for a week for the first time in 6 months.

Weather looks a little iffy but hell if the beach is closed who cares?

See ya at Quatro por Quatro, adios amigos Bert

[QUOTE=Sperto]I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Agreed on all points. I think my tour guide was bored and wanted to play a "spot the tourist" game of some sort, so she made that observation about the meal.

[QUOTE=Sperto]I have to ask just out of curiousity.
The food is great at Rio Scenarium, both the appetizers and the "dinners". Is there a difference if you eat a filé mignon or pasteis? Don't you think that the locals will know that you're a gringo anyway. :)

IMO I appreciate that the local girls notice that I'm not a brazilian. That's one of the triumph cards when looking for non-pro's in Brazil.

What might be embarrassing is that if you give the impression that you are a stranger to brazilian nightlife and don't know how to act with the ladies, but that depends more on other factors than what you eat. ;)

Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.

I visited Rio recently and experienced a fantasy of mine – two girls at the same time. I used the International Sex Guide to gather all the info I needed to prepare so the experience was amazing.

Before going to Rio I practiced my Portuguese and learned all the phrases of what to ask for using the section on sexual phrases in translation (chupar sem camisinha etc.) I even brought a cheat sheet with the words I was looking for to Brazil.

When I arrived in Rio, I bought some Viagra and Vagisil lubricant over the counter at a local Brazilian drug store (I don't need either normally but I figured that I was going to fuck 2 Brazilian *****s so I had better be prepared). I brought extra condoms from the US because I don't trust Brazilian condoms.

My friend and I went to L'oumos at 4 when they open. We paid the entrance fee (60 reais), changed into our robes and put our stuff in our lockers taking a shower. Then I started to talk to all the Terma girls, asking them the questions that Bubba suggests in his guide to screen a girl. I was looking for 2 girls who would BBBJ at the same time, have sex with each other and lick my ass. Anal is not my thing. If a girl refused to BBBJ, lick my ass or to have sex with her friend, I stopped talking to her. In this way I interviewed about 7 cute girls. One girl complained that I was talking to all the girls but fuck her. I settled on a cute Blonde and a Brunette named Pia. They agreed to everything I asked for and kissed each other to prove it. They said they would do BBBJ as long as I was clean. I asked for a room for 40 minutes with both, (paying 390 reals (210 each for a room with a 30 real discount because it was before 7)). While I was waiting for them Pia (cute brunette) backed out. I think she expected me to get a 300 real for a 1 hour suite instead 210 of a single room. Anyway she gave attitude so I immediately dropped her like Bubba recommended. I found another cute brunette (who was friends of the blonde) and off we went to our threesome. My friend who was with me was very impressed by the way I handled these chicks. Since I had never been to a *****house before, I credit the international sex guide for my knowledge and monger-sense.

The girls showered and we went to the room. They had lube and condoms and cleaning cloths. I entered a single room about the size of a king size bed with a mattress for a floor and 2 pillows. I locked the door, sealing myself in a room with 2 hot girls. First I took of my own cloths, then I had the girls take off everything except their g-strings. We kissed, I pushed them down so they could kiss my nipples. Then I motioned they should suck my cock. They took out a cleaning cloth and cleaned it off good (it was already clean) before sucking it at the same time, one head on each side of my shaft. I had one of them suck my cock while the other sucked my balls. Then one sucked my cock BBBJ while the other licked my ass (with a condom). I switched girls and responsibilities. It was amazing.

Then we transitioned to sex. I fucked the blonde doggie while the brunette licked my ass. (Both with condoms). Then I fucked the brunette missionary while the blonde licked my ass. We continued to rotate positions. Every time I switched girls we changed condoms until we ran out. Luckily, I had 2 extra of my own. The girls acted well but I could tell they were just going through the motions. With 10 minutes left, I finally came in the brunette while I was kissing the blonde. We were out of condoms, so the girls had to call for more. They refused to double BBBJ after I had come, so one of them HJ me while the other ate her out. I quickly got back in the mode and fucked the blonde who I had not come in until time ran out. Overall, a great experience for 450 real.

My friend wanted to have a girl but didn't get Pia because of the attitude she gave me. Met 2 guys in the club who spent a lot of money but didn't get the same great experience I did because they were not prepared.

Thanks to Bubba, Jackson and the International Sex Guide for enabling me to experience a formerly unfulfilled sexual fantasy.

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[QUOTE=Dwilso39]This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.[/QUOTE]


go into bars or clubs and try and act like Brazilians. It doesnt work, trust me. I speak 110% fluent Brazilian Porto (3 guys out here can verify that) and yet I am 110% Gringo. I agree with you totally!! Be Yourself! Brazilian women really like American men because its our nature to treat women kind and loving. I will always here stories from Brazilian women (even real hotties) that Brazilian men suk big time. There are so many women in Brazil, that infidelity and faithfulness is a tremendous issue.

Thats where I got a major upper hand. I'm a Gringo, speak their native language real well and I act myself, dress like a gringo and eat like one. I have made over 25 plus trips to Brazil, was married to one and never, ever, ever had to be or act someone I wasnt to get attention from a local woman..ever.

[QUOTE=Jadedmd]I was looking for 2 girls who would BBBJ at the same time, have sex with each other and lick my ass.[/QUOTE]
I'll make a note that I will not deep-kiss any Luomo-girls.

Hi,

I will go to Rio 1st week of March. I have change my plan. I will be there instead of Fortaleza.

I have booked an apartment from [url]www.gringomanagement.com[/url] in Posto 5. David seems to be a great guy.

It will be my second time in Rio and I will go alone.

1st time, I spent 2 weeks last February during Carnaval.

I was with a friend but he is not really in our favorite game. So I couldn't apreciate.

I just went twice to Terma Luomo. I really liked it except a tall blond girl with fake breast who was to much pro for my taste. She seems to come from northern Europe.

I went 2 times to Help. Each time I got a goof experience. They were not the most beautiful but really GFE and "complethina".

Price R$200 for TLN.

First one told me that usually she ask for R$400 but she will come with me for half.

I do not have any pictures but for my next trip, I will do my best to bring you a great report.

I am doing my homeworks to prepare my trip thanks to your great reports.

My goal is to have 2 girls/ day and try my first 3some.

PS: I apologize for my english. I manage better in french and english.

If some of you are un Rio, I will glad to share a beer and hunt some cuties.

Thanks for the report, one question, when did L'uomo start charging upon arrival, I have been there over 20 times and always paid the "entrance fee", along with my bar tab and any programs upon exit?

[QUOTE=Jadedmd]My friend and I went to L'oumos at 4 when they open. We paid the entrance fee (60 reais), changed into our robes and put our stuff in our lockers taking a shower.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sperto]I'll make a note that I will not deep-kiss any Luomo-girls.[/QUOTE]

Hilarious!! He did, however, state that the girls did use a condom to lick his ass. What these girls do before they are with you is like the sausage making process - it is better not to know! lol

[QUOTE=Geofagus]go into bars or clubs and try and act like Brazilians. It doesnt work, trust me. I speak 110% fluent Brazilian Porto (3 guys out here can verify that) and yet I am 110% Gringo. I agree with you totally!! Be Yourself! Brazilian women really like American men because its our nature to treat women kind and loving. I will always here stories from Brazilian women (even real hotties) that Brazilian men suk big time. There are so many women in Brazil, that infidelity and faithfulness is a tremendous issue.

Thats where I got a major upper hand. I'm a Gringo, speak their native language real well and I act myself, dress like a gringo and eat like one. I have made over 25 plus trips to Brazil, was married to one and never, ever, ever had to be or act someone I wasnt to get attention from a local woman..ever.[/QUOTE]

Well, thats cool man, but I am not sure what you are trying to say. Anyway, congratulations on your fluency in the portuguese language!!! Great.
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????

[QUOTE=Beach Star]Well, thats cool man, but I am not sure what you are trying to say. Anyway, congratulations on your fluency in the portuguese language!!! Great.
Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????[/QUOTE]
Ooh, Ooh. I know. I know.

You hold your sandwich in your bare hand rather than using a waxy napkin!

Now, what do I win?

[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Ooh, Ooh. I know. I know.

You hold your sandwich in your bare hand rather than using a waxy napkin!

Now, what do I win?[/QUOTE]You have won a roundtrip from Copacabana to Leblon at your own convenience.

Congratulations!

[QUOTE=Beach Star] Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????[/QUOTE]Speaking about eating.

Have you noticed that many brazilians eat their hamburgers holding them upside down?

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I recently wrote a couple of brief reports on Lapa and how to get there by bus from Copa. My tour guide said you can spot a tourist at Rio Scenarium because he/she is eating dinner there. Apparently, locals only eat appetizers there.[/QUOTE]I've be going to Rio Scenarium from its very begining when only the ground floor was operating and hardly any tourist there. I didn't notice anything like that.

It was one of the very few places, back then, that I could enjoy a perfect esspreso after my dinner there. I remember entrance fee, a couple of Bohemias, a nice fillet mignon dinner and an espreso for less than 50 Reais when euro was 3.9 Reais just before Lula was elected first time. It was like stealing from them. Good old times.

[QUOTE=Fuddzie]Brazil has the largest concentration of Japanese outside Japan. Has anyone encourtered any in the mongering treks?[/QUOTE]SuiGeneris has posted an excellent list of japanese or half japanese GDP's in the Sao Paulo thread.

[QUOTE=Dwilso39]This is a good point that I make to my friends all the time: be yourself. Lots of guys think they have to try to "be Brasilian". BullShit! Be who you are becuase there are "MANY" Brasilian women that are dying to meet a gringo. Bottom line: be yourself.[/QUOTE]I will go one step above this and when a well seasoned monger friend of mine from the US is visiting Rio, i will introduce him, to the local garotas,(pro or non pro) as my shy cousin from the US, that has never even had a girlfriend. He plays along very well and you should see them competing to teach him a thing or two! Works every time and in any environment, as long as he manages to keep his game on.

Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

Greengo

[QUOTE=Greengo]Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

Greengo[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Greengo]Anyone currently in Rio that can provide info?

I've seen this terma mentioned on other websites and it seems to be top-notch. Any brave souls care to give it a try and report?

Thanks in advance,

Greengo[/QUOTE]Hi Greengo!

I have been in June and I can tell you that it is not one of the best Termas. Yes there are some pretty girls but not comparable to MonteCarlo, Centaurus or Termas 65.

[QUOTE=Beach Star]Just curiosity, but how do you eat like a gringo?????[/QUOTE] Also eating your pizza with your hand and not with a knife and fork.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Also eating your pizza with your hand and not with a knife and fork.[/QUOTE]

Heheh...and entirely devoid of any trace of ketchup or mayonnaise to boot...

Back home, let's try to write something usefull for all.

First suggest is that if you are going to use escort, better that you are sure the first thing you are gonna to do once you arrive in Brazil is to spend at least couple of hours reading gpguia and write on piece of paper name of agency and which girls of this agency have at least couple of positive rates, then think to call....

Yes you maybe do not understand much of portuguese to be able to read all the comments, but at the end, all you need is to know which girls have good rate and for this you need zero portuguese....

Then when it is about to call an agency, you need very basic portuguese, the kind of girl you want and the address of your hotel or apartment.....another thing is to get what you want....

Karlamodels:
I called on sunday and nobody answered, I called on monday to order 4 girls for me and my buddy and they had one girl available to the first number I called and other 3 girls available to the second number they gave me, so it was a bit too complicated, as it was hard the girls could be arrive at same time, so nothing more to report.

Ciaplus:
I asked for a thin, white or light skin and completa and the receptionist told me Camila does anal for 20 reais more, I agree, cause I saw the pictures of her but the girl arrived was totally different. Yes thin, but brown skin and enough ugly face, I only told her she is much different from photo, she smiled and said no problem, just 20 reais for taxi. She called the receptionist, I gave her 20 reais and she left less than 2 minutes from the moment she arrived and the way she smiled to me, made me think I am not the first one who sent her back.I am pretty sure that if she travel by metro or minibus, even with only the money of taxi, she can earn enough money at the end of the day....
P.S. I asked that to receptionist for Camila take the book, so I could see the real pictures of girls, but she said, they have no book !?!

Riosexsite:
This is a web page of only freelancers, so you call directly the girl and not a receptionist that, listening you are a gringo, send you what she wants.
Yeah, the price are higher, but if I pay about 300 reais for 40 minutes with terma girl, why not the same price for 60 minutes with a real nice model type girl ?
So I choose and I called Livia Werneck....when she arrived I almost fall down to the floor.....very nice girl ! Thin, nice face, white skin, little ass and very polite as she said 300 reais for one hour, taxi is 20 reais and 50 reais for anal, only if we will have anal. I paid her 370 reais and before to leave she gave me back 50 reais cause she said I have dick too big for anal.

So...if it is a rainy day, maybe you can have some fun try to get, from cheap escort agency as karla and ciaplus, the girl you like, but if you are as me before to leave for airport, with not enough time to go to 4x4 and you want to be sure, I only suggest riosexsite. There are there even girls for 200 reais 1 hour or 250 2 hours, so just try. At the end, I think it is hard you get something different from the photo, as the girl I got was even better live.

And....read gpguia...very helpfull even when it is gonna to choose a girl inside terma....

P.S. yes, I got also a 3some from megaclassrj, but I will report lately cause that day, was the best day of all my holiday so it deserves a long report :)

Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.

[QUOTE=The Watcher]Hilarious! He did, however, state that the girls did use a condom to lick his ass. What these girls do before they are with you is like the sausage making process. It is better not to know! LOL[/QUOTE]I think a lot of Brasilian girls just like ass play.

I was molested by a girl in Bacos in Sao Paulo who snuck in from BBBJ and ate my ass with no condom. And I'd just finished a long day at the office, no shower. Stinky ass. I was a real greenhorn monger at the time, so it shook me up a bit.

A couple months ago, Brenda at Flavia Massage was also trying to go for the ass with her tongue in the middle of BBBJ. And she had also wanted to be anally fucked right away without even requring any vag stimulation. I had no problem obliging her fetish for being ass fucked, but didn't let this girl lick my ass.

Anyone know how you can access this site from the US?

It used to work just fine but now?

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I was molested by a girl in Bacos in Sao Paulo who snuck in from BBBJ and ate my ass with no condom. And I'd just finished a long day at the office, no shower. Stinky ass.[/QUOTE]
Great, I was just preparing my lunch.

[QUOTE=Greengo]Anyone know how you can access this site from the US?

It used to work just fine but now?

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]With a Brazilian Proxy.

Try this: [url]http://www.proxy4free.com/page1.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Sperto]Today at 05:21 - Great, I was just preparing my lunch.[/QUOTE]

Lunch at 05:21?

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Lunch at 05:21?[/QUOTE]

....Breakfast at the Y :) :)

[QUOTE=Iamsmooth]Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.[/QUOTE]Crooks can easily install card readers over the top of exsiting card readers to steal info. They had a news story a few months back in Philadelphia and they demostrated in real time how quick they can do it. And these guys were doing it in high-traffic areas at BoA bank branch ATMs!

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Lunch at 05:21?[/QUOTE]
Time zones...

[QUOTE=Sperto]Time zones...[/QUOTE]

Central Europe?

[QUOTE=Hughdad]Crooks can easily install card readers over the top of exsiting card readers to steal info. They had a news story a few months back in Philadelphia and they demostrated in real time how quick they can do it. And these guys were doing it in high-traffic areas at BoA bank branch ATMs![/QUOTE]

There was a report about this on the news in Rio a couple months back. They showed security camera footage of the guys at work. They actually open up the machine and put their stuff inside, so it's damn near undetectable. HSBC in Copa is also a regular target.

[QUOTE=Sperto]Great, I was just preparing my lunch.[/QUOTE]Okay, sorrrry Sperto. I couldn't resist. I'll pm you and buy you lunch the next time I'm in town.

Does anyone else have stories about any GdP's with peculiar sexual habits or requests? Certainly, if I've experienced a couple of GdPs who like quirky stuff, you long-time veterans must have a wealth of humorous experiences.

Just got off the phone with my amiga in Rio. She stated that Help will remain open until after Carnival. LOL, this place will never close.

Speaking of Help, I heard a cool techno song on my most recent visit. The lyrics went...."Give it to me....All the love that you have......Give it to me.... As much love as you can.....Give it to me.....All I need is you....." Shazam did not pick it up.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Okay, sorrrry Sperto. I couldn't resist. I'll pm you and buy you lunch the next time I'm in town.

Does anyone else have stories about any GdP's with peculiar sexual habits or requests? Certainly, if I've experienced a couple of GdPs who like quirky stuff, you long-time veterans must have a wealth of humorous experiences.[/QUOTE]
I do not think you want to go there. Sperto would never be able to eat and read the forum at the same time again. There are reasons some of us are not graphic in our reporting.

Dose anyone twitter their reports? And if you so do you do it from the Blackberry or from the laptop? I will be in Rio in November and I will twitter and add a detail report here along with my pic's.

[QUOTE=Iamsmooth]Today I received a call from my bank that two charges via my Bank Debit Card was made three days after my return from Rio for $1,004.00 and $268.00. Of course the card was cancelled and the charges are still in a pending state. If they go through I will have to file a fraudulent claim to get the money credited back.

The only ATM I used in Rio was at the JW Marriott Hotel in Copacabana. I will have the US Embassy, where I working on business call the hotel and let then know of the incident. Hopefully, the hotel can pinpoint it to the owners of the ATM who must have installed one of those devices that steal bank card information.

I should have known better, but who would expect that this would happen at the Marriott.[/QUOTE]

That has happened to me every time I have been to RIO or SP. Why I use to love the American Express Travel cards and now only use my Amex to get money. Very secure and they know how I handle my money and will immediately kick any charge back. Ill take the shitty exchange rates for security and ease of mind. Too much made of exchange rates IMHO. Unless it like 10% Difference no use in shopping around and its never greater than a 5% differential.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]I think a lot of Brasilian girls just like ass play.

A couple months ago, Brenda at Flavia Massage was also trying to go for the ass with her tongue in the middle of BBBJ. And she had also wanted to be anally fucked right away without even requring any vag stimulation. I had no problem obliging her fetish for being ass fucked, but didn't let this girl lick my ass.[/QUOTE]

What difference is there really in the end product if a girl sticks her tongue up your ass or does a bit of ATM, the shit ends up in the same place.

The one that gets me is the number of them that get off on really violent sex, that want to be slapped or choked, freaked me out the first time it happened to me.

AMEX rocks. With the Plat or Black cards, you can purchase AMEX Traveller's Checks, and cash them at an AMEX, without any charges. There was an office at Copacaban Palace....did not see it the last time I walked by. Did they relocate or close down? Also, when exchangin TCs as a Plat or Black Member, they give you a better rate than what is posted.

[QUOTE=Alex Deuce]That has happened to me every time I have been to RIO or SP. Why I use to love the American Express Travel cards and now only use my Amex to get money. Very secure and they know how I handle my money and will immediately kick any charge back. Ill take the shitty exchange rates for security and ease of mind. Too much made of exchange rates IMHO. Unless it like 10% Difference no use in shopping around and its never greater than a 5% differential.[/QUOTE]

Safado Lover, I tried couple of brazilian proxy in mozilla just a while ago, but still not able to get into gpguia. Did you try ? Does it works ?

This time I did ATM only once, the first day, inside banco do brazil in nossa senhora de copa, then I changed only cash all the time.
I went back home with thousand of reais, so next time I will never use ATM, specially after that I read how easily they steal bank card infos.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Safado Lover, I tried couple of brazilian proxy in mozilla just a while ago, but still not able to get into gpguia. Did you try ? Does it works ?

This time I did ATM only once, the first day, inside banco do brazil in nossa senhora de copa, then I changed only cash all the time.
I went back home with thousand of reais, so next time I will never use ATM, specially after that I read how easily they steal bank card infos.[/QUOTE]
I think bringing cash is the best route - you just have to be careful about carrying it and transporting it to the apartment or hotel safely. On the trip I was on 2 weeks ago, I brought a lot of USD and was able to get a rate of 1.88-1.90 at a cambio (changing $500 at a time) even though xe.com quoted 1.82. My friend was withdrawing from Citibank ATM everyday and getting hosed with a rate of 1.76-1.78. The 6%+ discrepancy (cambio vs ATM) matters quite a bit, since for every $500 you are getting screwed out of $30 or more USD, ie, almost the equivalent of one entry fee at a terma. Those costs start adding up.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I think bringing cash is the best route - you just have to be careful about carrying it and transporting it to the apartment or hotel safely.[/QUOTE]

I agree on both points personally (just personally - I'm not saying it's a preferred option for everyone, just one of my main preferred options.) This should maybe go on the crime and safety thread though I'm not entirely sure of the wisdom on posting a 'how to avoid getting robbed' on the internet apart from the obvious. Happy to take PMs on stuff like the above is they're not too numerous.

Do you know this website? www.muraldoprazer.com/

There are some cute girls. Have you already tested it ?

[QUOTE=Abzsafado]The one that gets me is the number of them that get off on really violent sex, that want to be slapped or choked, freaked me out the first time it happened to me.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but ever since then I have been choking the shit out of them!

[QUOTE=Amerioca]AMEX rocks. With the Plat or Black cards, you can purchase AMEX Traveller's Checks, and cash them at an AMEX, without any charges. There was an office at Copacaban Palace....did not see it the last time I walked by. Did they relocate or close down? Also, when exchangin TCs as a Plat or Black Member, they give you a better rate than what is posted.[/QUOTE]Wasn't AMEX in Brazil bought out by Bradesco? Amex exchange rates on purchases suck.

[quote=zingadoon]wasn't amex in brazil bought out by bradesco? amex exchange rates on purchases suck.[/quote]two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.

[quote=jamaicanceo]two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.[/quote]what? you did not see that in the midst of all the helpful financial information exchange, mr. enternational posted this gem about gdps:

"yeah but ever since then i have been choking the shit out of them!"

so, not all the class and charm have disappeared from here!

[quote=jamaicanceo]two day of posts regarding financial services and few of none on bunda. when we're done talking about helpee, we talk about finances, huh? just asking.[/quote]you got something to post on bunda, so post it.

no one telling you what you can and can't say.

After friday afternoon with my buddy at 4x4 but not in mood to go to cabine, cause my plan was to have later in my apartment my first 3some, I went back to copa and in front of pc I started to search for an agency.

I never had before a 3some, cause I knew very well it worth it only if the both girls like each other, otherwise you only spend twice for not double fun.

However, it was about 22:00 and I decided to use [url]www.megaclassrj.com[/url]

Obviously I did my homeworks as best I could and I wrote on a piece of paper in portuguese something about this:

- 2 girls for dupla

- thin and white or light skin

- both completa

- the address, name of building and number of my apartment

- the numbers of my cell phone in portuguese, just in case.

Then I call and the receptionist, told me, that she called me after a while to check which girls were available for my requests.

She called me and she gave me 6 names, I was in front of my computer, but more or less, all the girls looked nice to me, so I said to her clear, that if the girls were be really good in beauty and service, so I will use their agency often in future as I was foreigner but living in Rio.... ( just an innocent BS to try all I could to have something good ).

So she said, I send you Livia and Hellem..... now before I keep on posting.... go to search in the site these 2 girls and tell me if they look at least similar to the first photo I post here.... obviously not !
That what I was afraid and now I am pretty sure, all the foto in the site are fake cause when I asked to receptionist for girls to bring me the book of girls, she said they have not.

However.... she said in half hour they will knock my door.... so I just drunk a beer and enjoy the wating of my first 3some.

When they knocked the door, I open and.... who are they ?!?
In a while they were inside and went to sit on sofa....yes, I could easily pay taxi fee and let them go back, but I thought: " let's take the risk, they are almost thin as I like...maybe it will be a double GFE...".

I was enough wrong....

I paid them, 200 reais each and total 20 for taxi, then we all started to dress off and... I have to honestly say, it was very nice, to get naked together 2 girls in the same place....

Problems began immediately as while one was kissing me in the bed the second one put condom on my brother....I immediately told her, I asked for full service and she said, my friend does it....so I kissed the second one, while the first bbbj me....

It was really cold session, almost sad, specially when they told me, they wanted 100 reais each one to french kiss each other, obviously I did not pay and I tried to get fun from a clear cold experience...

Not much to say, beside that I was fucking them and already thinkng what after ???
As I was sure, they left and me still horny as a dog with 3 balls.

I can add that next time I will have 3some it will be or in terma, expensive I know, but with higher guarantee of GFE or using karlamodels for half the price of megaclassrj.

The worst thing was that they really worked alone, I almost laugh when I was banging one in doggy style and the second one.....started to give me massage to my shoulders telling me: " relax " .....despite the size of their pussies, I could say they were virgin for the zero attitude to good sex....

However.....it was about midnight, one more time alone in front of my pc, horny as well and with the choice of riosexsite or help.
I called about 8 girls supposed to work 24hrs, none answered, so, shower and I was at Help.

There were some nice girls, but as always, the problem with Help girls is the attitude and not the beauty, I was already ripped off once, so after 2 sharks I did not want to risk for the third lazy one.
I even chit chat with couple of girls, but no one really interested me, so it was 2:00 and still horny on friday night in Rio in holiday.....too bad, so bad !

The last, last chance was.... my "beloved" prado junior ....

Going there I stopped for a beer to balcony and nothing even there....

At prado junior I tried pussycat, only 2 ugly girls.....Senso, 5-6 girls and nothing really nice......Erotica seems to me a gay party, cause full of customers and almost no girls.

I have to say that I did not pay entrance, I just asked to the man at front door of the clubs if I could check the girls before to decide to pay and they all agree easily. So the last one.....

Cicciolina was not much better, but I decided to stay there, cause it was the last place. ( yes theoretically Barbarella too, but I was lucky my first day there, not sure I could be lucky twice in the biggest rip off place of all copa... ).

To make long short, after a couple of cigarettes was 3:00 am and I really started to lose my hope to have a real GFE when suddenly get into the club and directly to toilet a girl familiar to me.....

I went close to toilet waiting for her, that came out with different clothes and.....shit !!! She was HER !!!!

Now, so far as really news in Rio go fast, I covered her face and I do not write her name, but I spoke with her in a terma a couple of days before, even if I did not session with her, but I saw her in bikini, great body and we french kissed a lot......so I really got a nice smile on my face !!!

I asked her if she is busy, she said, she arrived a while before, ;) , I offer her a drink and....how much do you want ?

She smiled and said 300 reais. I wanted to start to negotiate, but first of all I was tired, really, second, in very need of good sex, third....why to negotiate the price with a surely GFE with terma girl and not.......ok for 300 reais but you stay till noon !

She asked me if I was in apartment or hotel and she try to agree till 8:00 am.
Thank to the fact I was tired and so horny ( I mean I wanted to have sex at the morning with her in total relax and not in hurry), so I said 300reais but till noon or I go to sleep.

Probably she likes me as I liked her from when I saw her in terma, probably she thought why not and that better 300 reais now for longer time instead of maybe same price, or nothing at all, for shorter time.

So.... I got the best night of all my holiday, not only cause she was the only girl I slept with, but mainly cause terma girl are for 99% GFE and have one of them for almost 9 hours at the price of 1 hour in terma....is not bad...IMHO.

For my second travel to Rio, that's all folks, enjoy the pictures.

P.S. special thanks to Jake993 for his suggests by PM.... hey, I owe you much more than a beer ;)

[QUOTE=Amerioca]Just got off the phone with my amiga in Rio. She stated that Help will remain open until after Carnival. LOL, this place will never close.

Speaking of Help, I heard a cool techno song on my most recent visit. The lyrics went...."Give it to me....All the love that you have......Give it to me.... As much love as you can.....Give it to me.....All I need is you....." Shazam did not pick it up.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like Madonna "Give it to me" I bought the CD from the DJ at Help, I am listening to it now.

Help will remain open until after Carnival? Great

I guess I'll see it one more time in my life, It's what I live for.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]
...
Cicciolina was not much better, but I decided to stay there, cause it was the last place. ( yes theoretically Barbarella too, but I was lucky my first day there, not sure I could be lucky twice in the biggest rip off place of all copa... ).
...
Probably she likes me as I liked her from when I saw her in terma, probably she thought why not and that better 300 reais now for longer time instead of maybe same price, or nothing at all, for shorter time.

So.... I got the best night of all my holiday, not only cause she was the only girl I slept with, but mainly cause terma girl are for 99% GFE and have one of them for almost 9 hours at the price of 1 hour in terma....is not bad...IMHO.
...
[/QUOTE]
Nice report!

I've only been to Ciccolina's twice, and based on the girls I've talked to over there, it seems the going rate is anywhere between R$150 - R$250 for an all-nighter. I've only taken one girl out of there and she was very cute - cost me R$250 for an all-nighter. So R$300 for a top girl from Ciccolina's seems reasonable, especially considering she's a terma girl and how hot her body looked in your pictures. In comparison, a girl at Solarium a couple of weeks was asking for R$300 for 1 hour at my apartment with no wiggle-room, so negotiations ended in a stalemate.

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Help will remain open until after Carnival? Great
I guess I'll see it one more time in my life, It's what I live for.[/QUOTE]
You can continue living... until March.
[url]http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.asp[/url]

[QUOTE=Lukasek]

For my second travel to Rio, that's all folks, enjoy the pictures.

P.S. special thanks to Jake993 for his suggests by PM.... hey, I owe you much more than a beer ;)[/QUOTE] Lukasek - happy to help and glad to hear that your second trip to Rio was better than the first! I am in Moscow this week freezing my ass off. They tell me that we will have the first snow of the season this week. Fuck - I am not dressed for this!!!!
But the girls are hot and as good looking as ever so I will survive!

[QUOTE=Sperto]You can continue living... until March.
[url]http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.asp[/url][/QUOTE]I wish it will remain open untill end of march. I will be there the first week.

I got an apartment just near Help.

So far as here it seems slow in the last days, I share something.

This time I got 7 girls from termas, 3 from 4x4, 2 from solarium, 1 from luomo and from montecarlo too.

During my first trip, my favourite terma was solarium, but during this trip both the girls were a... disaster.

However I can say it was my fault, cause with the first one I was in hurry, not much patience to "test" her and she was smarter too. She was one of the few that are older than 30 yo, nice face and smile, but big ass. She was smart as, when we spoke, she seems very friendly, but once in cabine after less than half minute of bbbj wanted to start immediately sex; even FK in cabine was not nice as at the bar. I should understood even cause she was almost the only one girl alone for all the time, neither customers or the other girls went to speak with her....just me LOL.
The second one was a bit drunk and instead to mean more fun in cabine, it turned to make her so lazy I got the feeling she paid me as she wanted daty and only a bit of bbbj.

However despite these 2 girls, all the others were fabulous as you can expect from terma girls.

4x4 for me it is a solid guarantee of GFE, yes it has the little bad point that it get so crowded that it is often hard to find a place where to sit down a while, so I never was able to have quite long and nice conversation with the girl, but once in cabine....you forgot how many hours it took you to get to Rio :)

Luomo and Montecarlo has for me a bit higher quality of girls, even if, obviously, much less choice, but with the good point that you can really relax there, as if you was in normal bar full of girls in bikini, these 2 termas do not have the feeling of sex factory that has 4x4.
To sit down and have nice conversation with the girl, for me it is part of the fun too.

I "regret" I did not see Centaurus, as I know it is very expensive and the rip off terma, but in january I saw there really many beautiful girls, so next trip I will go there and not on sunday as this time ;)

Cheers

[QUOTE=Sperto]You can continue living... until March.

[url]http://jbonline.terra.com.br/leiajb/2009/09/24/primeiro_caderno/diretor_da_help_diz_que_nao_fecha_antes_de_marco.asp[/url][/QUOTE]Does this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?

[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]Does this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?[/QUOTE]
No, no and yes.

Who knows? At least nobody on this forum knows for sure.
We all just hope. Personally I hope it close before New Year.

[QUOTE=InBrazilSoon]Does this person have any control over when it closes? I have no idea if it will or will not stay open until then but is this article proof of anything really? Or is it just someones "desire" or statement that it must?[/QUOTE]

This is the first time I have ever seen a director of Help admit that Help will actually close as a result of this government action. Because of this my Opinion is that a deal was struck behind the scenes to give them one more Carnaval before the gravy train shuts down.

This also gives them 5 more months to get an alternate location ready, this way they can continue the gravy train. But if not hopefully the girls will just take over another club.

Who's the girl in your pictures and from which Termas?

She looks fantastic, except for the jizz stains on her. LOL.

[quote=sperto] personally i hope it close before new year.[/quote]
you helpee hater, you:)
some of you regulars are so spoiled. but for the rest of us out on bail from the sex prison, despite sometimes poor quality, helpee was still a unique experience.

[QUOTE=Zingadoon]Wasn't AMEX in Brazil bought out by Bradesco? Amex exchange rates on purchases suck.[/QUOTE]

No. AMEX shut down their office at the Copacabana Palace. BTW, American Airlines office is gone too. Oh well.

[quote=bizzie]you helpee hater, you:)

some of you regulars are so spoiled. but for the rest of us out on bail from the sex prison, despite sometimes poor quality, helpee was still a unique experience.[/quote]i agree the ones who want help closed are the ones who have been going for years.

go figure

WOW!! Down to Madrid and Rio!!! Looks like Rio is far and ahead the favorite!

Yep... I am afraid it will win Rio....I bet 1 reais lol

[b] Congratulations! Rio to host the 2016 Summer Olympics, Games of the XXXI Olympiad!

GO! Rio 2016 [i] "LIVE [u] YOUR [/u] PASSION"[/i]!

AUGUST 5 – 21. 2016 [/b] :D :D

[b]The CunningLinguist[/b]

Rio won.... May God HELP us all, pun intended.

[url]http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/02/world/main5358718.shtml[/url]

If I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio?

What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on.

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]....if I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio ?

What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on....

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there...[/QUOTE]The Golden Age* of Rio is already dead, I think. This will only make it worse, as it will throw supply and demand even further out of whack. Like you, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and would appreciate someone playing Devil's Advocate on these theories.

*=by "Golden Age," I refer to a time when Rio was relatively cheap, and not overrun by uninformed tourists. As a result, the GDPs had to provide better service to keep your interest and were willing to hang out with you for longer periods of time to protect their investment.

I think people are perhaps over reaching on the impact. In terms of numbers, this is barely a bigger event than Carnival spread out over a larger part of Rio.

The Exchange rate may react at first but brazilian currency is so amazingly artificially inflated right now that I suspect well prior to 2016, it will tumble for many of the same reasons the dollar has recently.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]What I am afraid is, that prices will go up and no more down and the city will be invaded to every kind of potencial monger, that as minimum will overpay GDP and so on....

I hope I am really wrong, however thieves and bandits will be very happy of this decision, they are gonna to have great "business" out there...[/QUOTE]

From personal experience, I have seen how big events like this drive prices up for everything, not just for the girls, and then they never, ever come back down. This really, really sucks for mongering in Rio. Big time! Do you realize how many horny guys are already zeroing in on Rio de Janeiro??? Puttin' push-pins into big, colorful wall maps!

Plan to go to Rio before Help is closed forever and before the weak dollar loses even more value to the gaining real! I expect the heat to be turned up on the termas and the whole of the sex industry in Rio. Just like in Beijing where they shut it down. They clamped down good!

Many China travelers report that things still haven't recovered to where they were before the Beijing games. Even if plenty of termas do remain open, prices are going to go sky high, and they won't come back down anytime soon after that. This is just awful news for the Rio monger nation!

It's going to be intriguing to watch Rio de Janeiro transform itself over the upcoming years leading up to the games. We don't know exactly what is going to happen, but based upon prior experience, I'm confident that Rio will be changed forever as a mongering destination, and specifically for the worse for seasoned international mongers.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]....if I think that with soccer on 2.014 and Olympics on 2.016 better to enjoy Rio right now as much as possible, cause these are the last golden years even for Rio ?[/QUOTE]
No need to worry about something that's 7 years ahead.
You guys love to worry about everything. :D
The GP-prices, the dollar-rate, the quality of the water and now the olympics.

Hmm...don't like it. I really hoped they would choose Madrid. Wonder though how they ever gonna get it done. They will have to break down whole parts of the city centre and create new highways from and to the airport. In fact they better tear down the entire airport and build a whole new one, now that I'm thinking about it. Then they will have to build lots of new hotels, clean up some of the central favela's, etc etc etc. It's going to be a HUGE challenge to get this one done.

...and I yes, I think it will be bad for our hobby, but only in the last 2 years before the Olympics. The coming years I think we won't see any significant changes.

Dutch44

[QUOTE=Dutch44]Hmm...don't like it. I really hoped they would choose Madrid. Wonder though how they ever gonna get it done. They will have to break down whole parts of the city centre...[/QUOTE]
Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.

[QUOTE=Sperto]No need to worry about something that's 7 years ahead.

You guys love to worry about everything. :D

The GP-prices, the dollar-rate, the quality of the water and now the olympics.[/QUOTE]Ditto Sperto!

[QUOTE=Sperto]Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.[/QUOTE]
Ditto Sperto!

[QUOTE=Sperto]I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.[/QUOTE]

Congratulaions to Brazil and Rio! The winning of the Olympics is a great opportunity for the Brasilian people to showcase that wonderful country. Will this change the P4P scene in Rio? Most likely, but I reckon us mongers will have to adapt a bit.

Now I'm wondering if I'd like to visit Rio during the summer of dois mil dezesseis.

- DSK

[QUOTE=Sperto]Howcome? They will build a stadium on Praça Quinze? There are plenty of room in Rio to build whatever they need. They managed the Pan American Games without any major problems. The Olympics is bigger, but they are very capable of managing that, even though it will cost quite a few reais.

I advice you to have a look at a map and do some study, and you'll discover that Rio doesn't consist of the area Copacabana-Centro. They have vast areas after Barra. Where do you think they held the Panam games? Av Rio Branco?

I think the Olympics in Rio is great news and I'm happy for all the brazilians.[/QUOTE]Here is their presentation

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TCoqZNesnM[/url]

Sperto you are right about to not worry, as we cannot do nothing, so better to take it easy and relax.

However I do not think it is something 7 years ahead, as consider we are almost in 2.010, only 4 years to world soccer championship there and even for this Rio and its prices will start to change.

Even more they will start to feel it a bit in advance, so we do not have so much time before to see the begin of change in Rio.

No doubt that as scenary and view, Rio is a great city to host the Olympics, specially after seen the video of master plan, but from our point of view, specially mine that I could care less about sport that other and not me do, this is not something will help us in our hobby, despite a bit improvment about transportation.

Honestly I fan for Chicago, even if I am european and not american, Madrid and Tokyo fine too, but what for me it is not very "fair", is to give to the same city 2 great world events in only 2 years.

Is it a sort of awake of Brazil to the eyes of world ? I do not know, but I am afraid reais will get soon stronger than weaker in comparison to Usd and Euro and it does not help too.

Gfe Finder you are right, thanks for correction, golden years are gone, these are only....let's say silver years in comparison of what was Rio in the past, but still golden years regarding what Rio will become in couple of years.

Help will be close and I guess now nobody could care less, they will just move, where ? We will see.

I guess termas will stay open and termas in copa will be during Olympics more packed than the beach on new years eve.....maybe we mongers, should think for 2.016 to open in copa a new terma with all girls speaking english, it would not be a bad business ;)

We will have and we can to adapt, for sure, but I am afraid GDP will adapt much better than us in terms to get used to have much more customers they can afford. It is good for the sharks, they will work as never before, but more or less every pro will get used in a while to get much money with little effort, so I think service will gonna to get worst, much worst.....we can forget GFE during Olympics....

I imagine there will be so much testosterone in the air and so little pussy to cool down....even if girls will arrive to Rio from all the Brazil to get easy and fast money.

Again the suggest of Sperto is wise, do not worry, let's enjoy now Rio, maybe in the 2.016 we will be happily married ;)

However.... Chicago indeed was much better choice :)

[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]The Golden Age* of Rio is already dead, I think. This will only make it worse, as it will throw supply and demand even further out of whack. Like you, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and would appreciate someone playing Devil's Advocate on these theories.

*=by "Golden Age," I refer to a time when Rio was relatively cheap, and not overrun by uninformed tourists. As a result, the GDPs had to provide better service to keep your interest and were willing to hang out with you for longer periods of time to protect their investment.[/QUOTE]


Rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.

I totally agree that Brazil is not what is use to be but what mongering spot still is?

However to me Brazil is still and will always be TOP because of all of the options and the variety of women.

Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

Brugal

[QUOTE=Brugal8]Rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.

I totally agree that Brazil is not what is use to be but what mongering spot still is?

However to me Brazil is still and will always be TOP because of all of the options and the variety of women.

Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

Brugal[/QUOTE]The people will tell you that the average Brazilian doesn't get the benefits of their country's prosperity. I think mongers are overreacting to the Olympic and the oil discoveries, because the prosperous Brazilians don't want things to change. The upper-class minority prosper while the majority try and survive with their large country's weak infrastructure. Like Spring time, new flowers sprout as the old die. There will be new GDPs asking for what she needs, and it will be R$150 BBBJ, completa, etc. all night.

The issue is what airfare and exchange rates. I've been to Rio 3 times this year from Los Angeles. But the freaking airfare and exchange rate isn't to my liking. And if the airfare and exchange is not favorable, then many mongers will avoid Brazil. This will cause the GDPs to be less greedy with less mongers. A monger I met in March 2009 who lives in Atlanta and gets buddy passes from a relative is in the Dominican Republic today, because of the real dollar exchange rate alone.

And as for the Olympics, who gives a damn. When I watch it on TV, it's to watch the big ass and big leg track and field sprinters. the Olympics is more of a family thing, and I don't think it will affect mongering. Maybe the apartment rates will climb, but there will be too girls converging on Rio which will over saturate the GDP market. Therefore, the GDP rate will either stay the same or decline.

[QUOTE=Brugal8]
Brazil is now officially a SUPER POWER and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

Their economy is strong.

As far as garotas it all depends is just with time brazilian GDPs know how much we love their bundas and are now asking top dollar.

Also they are handling some serious EUROS.[/QUOTE]

Agreed, and from this point of view it's good that they got the Olympics. Hopefully, they'll showcase what a great country and rising power that they are.

[QUOTE=Brugal8]Remember Brazil is bigger than Europe excluding Russia so we are not talking about a small country. I have always said this let's explore more and not focus only on RIO and SAO PAULO.

Brugal[/QUOTE]

I think this may be the answer, at least in terms of being cheaper and exploring a broader variety of venues. I can only hope that the women would be eager to please! :)

[quote=brugal8]rio in terms of being cheap you got a point.

brazil is now officially a super power and playing with the big boys in every sense of the word.

their economy is strong.
...
brugal[/quote]
well, i'm moving to rio at the end of 2010 and was planning to live there for only a couple of years. it is reported they will spend [b]$14.4 billion[/b] on infrastructure for the olympics and brazil will become the world's 5th largest economy by 2016. maybe i'll stay past the olympics now, only for its booming economy of course. :)

i wonder what will happen to the facilities after the olympics.
[color=#8b2323]will it go the way of athens...?[/color]

[b]ruined athens olympic facilities a warning to london[/b]
[i]by malcolm moore, the daily telegraph | june 2, 2008[/i]
[color=#104e8b]
athens — the buildings constructed in athens for the olympic games four years ago are fly blown,
closed to the public, and covered in graffiti, a forewarning of the possible aftermath of the
london games in 2012.

of the 22 venues in the city, 21 are in a state of disrepair and under guard to prevent vandalism.

athens spent more than $18 billion on staging the olympics, slightly less than the current estimate
for the london games.

the hangover from the games was tremendous. greece was left with a national budget deficit of 6.1%,
more than twice the maximum allowed under european union rules.

the infrastructure, which was installed in such haste, has proven to be far too extravagant for the city.
it is difficult to imagine there was ever much local interest in continuing to use the baseball, kayaking,
fencing, and handball facilities down the coast at hellenikon.

a few miles outside the city center, the sprawling faliron complex that once hosted the beach volleyball
and taekwondo competitions is deserted and a lone security guard has not been able to deter youths from
spraying the walls with slogans.

inside one of the buildings, puddles of water are dotted across the marble floor.

the baseball stadium was briefly used for football matches, until the organizers realized that the shape
of the baseball diamond resulted in all the television cameras standing at the corner flag.

elsewhere at hellenikon, piles of rubbish are mounting behind heavily padlocked gates and electrical cables
hang loose from the walls. on one bridge, every light fitting has been wrenched out, while crumbling concrete
is ubiquitous, a sign of the speed at which the complex was built.
[/color]

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]...I wonder what will happen to the facilities after the Olympics.
[color=#8B2323]Will it go the way of Athens...?[/color]...[/QUOTE]

Surely, they will have much stuff they no more use and need. If you ask me if I would like to have Olympics in my home town, the answer is a definetely NOT !

P.S. we had here the world soccer many times ago and even now you see a lot of stuff, hotels and new streets, made just for that occasion and now totally useless.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]Well, I'm moving to Rio at the end of 2010 and was planning to live there for only a couple of years. It is reported they will spend [b]$14.4 billion[/b] on infrastructure for the Olympics and Brazil will become the world's 5th largest economy by 2016. Maybe I'll stay past the Olympics now, only for its booming economy of course.[/quote]

I wonder what will happen to the facilities after the Olympics.

[color=#8B2323]Will it go the way of Athens...?[/color]

If they are smart they will do what USA did in Atlanta. They had pre-sold everything to the private sector and now it is being used for mayor league teams and so forth. But I do not believe they can pull that off. I am happy the USA did not get the Olympics it needs to clean house first before entering the realm of host. The USA has enough on its plate with the economy and its infrastructure, which has to be stabilized. I witch Rio well in hosting the Olympics and I really mean it. And those people or experts that predict the unpredictable good luck, no one can say what will happen in 2016. If they could, tell them to play the lottery and become an instant millionaire. Please give me a break.

[QUOTE=Hitmanm3]If they are smart they will do what USA did in Atlanta. They had pre-sold everything to the private sector and now it is being used for mayor league teams and so forth. But I do not believe they can pull that off. [/QUOTE]They did this for the pan american games pre-selling condos/apartments in zona oeste. Now those buidlings are sinking/slanting becuase they built them on unstable ground. Right where the olypic village will be for 2016. So I guess they were smart enough and pulled it off and the people who invested lost much of their money.

Crumbling infrastructures, polluted beaches, tirotios that on a weekly basis close the highways to the airport, favelas all over the places, crimes, thefts, abductions, assassinations, unpredictable weathers, pickpocketing, shit on shoes, etc....

Yet the suits in Denmark choose Rio.

Hosting an Olympic event is a privilege and not a right.

Rio did not deserve to host the Olympics.

Guys I must re-enforce the heading - I am NOT whinging here - just expressing my views.

I recently spent 5 nights in Rio - Sept 17 to 22. Prior to my arrival I posted 2 posts in the 'Travel Plans and Announcements' thread regarding my visit.

I have been an inconsequential contributor to the Rio - and indeed whole Brazil - sections of ISG - most of my 770 plus posts have been regarding China - Beijing and Shanghai in particular.

I was very surprised that no senior member living in / visiting Rio at the same time as me responded.

Again - THIS IS NOT A WHINGE - it is just so foreign to me. If similar circumstances arose in Beijing or Shanghai when I was there and I saw a brother with that number of posts seeking no more than company whilst in town - indeed myself and 4 or 5 other senior / regulars in those cities would have welcomed him with open arms - even pm'ing him with meeting locations and times and he would have been shown the ropes.

Billy DOES NOT need hand holding - Billy DOES NOT require babysitting - just the lack of response was somewhat surprising.

Still managed to bowl over 17 w.h.o.r.e.s in 5 days - 3.4 w.h.o.r.e.s per day - well down on the average of last visit of 5.1 w.h.o.r.e.s per day - but still - I did need a couple of friends to make that 3 guy / 12 girl fiesta happen - but there was no interest.

Once again - this is NOT a whinge - just expressing my feelings.

If any of you guys are ever in Beijing, Shanghai, Angeles City, Batam just drop Billy a note - we will arrange invaluable assistance for you.

AND - Billy always gives more than he takes - actually met a great guy in 4 x 4 - turns out he was a pilot with a major US carrier - first time in Rio - I gave him some advice from my limited database and I know I have developed a friendship for life.

He is already angling to get a gig to Beijing in November to sample some of the Mongolian delicacies there.

AGAIN - this is not a whinge - enjoy the pics guys.

Billy loves taking pics - so enjoy.

I must add YES some of you guys did consistently offer advice on apartments and the journey to get from Australia to Rio - that was greatly appreciated.

The points I was making above relate solely to period when I was actually in town.

Still a great 5 days - already booked for next June - June 8 to 15 - how is the fare guys - US$1,290 business class Sydney-LAX-Rio and return?

Impossible? Nah - booked and paid for.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes]Crumbling infrastructures, polluted beaches, tirotios that on a weekly basis close the highways to the airport, favelas all over the places, crimes, thefts, abductions, assassinations, unpredictable weathers, pickpocketing, shit on shoes, etc....

Yet the suits in Denmark choose Rio.

Hosting an Olympic event is a privilege and not a right.

Rio did not deserve to host the Olympics.[/QUOTE]I am very happy Rio will host the games.

Congratulations

What is a whinge?

[QUOTE=Bravo]What is a whinge?[/QUOTE]

That's Aussie spelling for whine.

Billy Boy was disappointed but he is not whinging about it. Say it with a nasal twang. :)

[QUOTE=Bravo]What is a whinge?[/QUOTE]
[url]http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/whinge[/url]

whinge - 2 dictionary results

–verb (used without object), whinged, whing⋅ing. British and Australian Informal. to complain; whine.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Billy Boy was disappointed[/QUOTE]Not 100% correct my friend.

How could anybody ever be 'disappointed' with a trip to Rio?

Surprised YES - disappointed NO.

Accommodation:

Originally wanted to book this apartment - [url]http://www.rioapartments.com/0-20_aluguel_de_imoveis_conjugado_copacabana/[/url] - US$75 / night - but it was not available for this period. Had this apartment booked - US$90 / night - [url]http://www.rioapartments.com/0-46_aluguel_de_imoveis_conjugado_quarto_e_sala_copacabana/[/url] - but you just can’t give those w.h.o.r.e.s a serious workout with that hard sided bed – so settled on this apartment through Amerioca Tours – Apt 1205 - [url]http://www.amerioca.net/onebedrooms.html[/url] - US$100 / night.

Could not recommend Amerioca high enough – Don was superb. He even helped me explain the address to Karlas to help me get the first 2 w.h.o.r.e.s there – and he also got me home from 4 x 4 when I just could not get the taxi driver to understand where I wanted to go – perfect customer service.

Food:

Dinner - Billy was so disappointed to find Kilogram closed for remodeling. I usually eat here most nights – settled for a place opposite which was called Cena I think – same deal – paid on weight – but quality nowhere near as good as Kilogram.

Cena did have an ‘all you can eat’ pizza deal which was cool – they continually bring different pizzas to your table and you can have a slice or 2 of many different varieties for R20 I think – not sure on price – but it was quite reasonable.

Breakfast - Billy ate at Lopes every morning. Morning to Billy in Rio is 11am to midday – Lopes would cook whatever I wanted – cheap also. Great coffee. To get to Lopes from Rua Almirante Goncalves – cross across Avenida N S Copacabana and turn left – walk 2 or 3 blocks – go past Police Station – another block or 2 and it is on your right.

Agencies:

As usual had 1 or 2 girls from Karla / Scortshow every day at 1pm. When I was there 2 years ago there was a girl who answered the phone in Karlas who spoke English – this time no English at all. Don from Amerioca explained the address for first visit – girls brought the book – from there on easy. I got the girls to call Karla and arranged the next day’s delights before they left.

Some of the Karla girls are less than stunning – the pictures in the book are certainly flattering to the girls – but the performance of EVERY girl I had was faultless.

Interesting point here is that 2 days after I returned from Rio Karla's update their web site to incorporate an 'english' version also. May help a bit if you cannot read / speak Port - but pretty useless if those answering phones don't speak english.

Termas:

Luomo’s first day – 2 or 3 stunners – but tailed off quickly IMHO. Had 3 superb girls here over 2 visits – I love this place.

Monte Carlo – really average line-up – really had to struggle to find something suitable – but again service sublime.

Solarium – exactly same deal as Monte Carlo. I am not sure which of these 2 it was but when I visited one all the girls were in kinda sexy street clothes – fucking hated it – had to work doubly hard to check the bodies.

4 x 4 – This was the third time I have been to 4 x 4 – first time I sampled w.h.o.r.e.s there. First visit 3 years ago it was closed for renovations – second visit 2 years ago the guy I went with suffered an asthma attack 5 minutes after we got there – this time no such bad luck.

Arrived at approx 3.30pm – had the first stunner naked before 5 – followed with a second session with a stunning blonde – R210 for an hour in a standard suite both sessions is great value.

Could easily spend all day in 4 x 4.

Centaurus – Did not make it this time – I fucked up the days and Sunday ended up the day I had for Centaurus. YES – many of you will say I missed nothing. I do not agree – 3 previous visits there had clearly yielded the best quality girls I saw in Termas IMHO. YES – cost higher – but I do not go to Rio to penny pinch.

Help – Was in Help every night – YES I know many of you will immediately think this classifies Billy as a ‘retard’. Billy loves being in bars surrounded by w.h.o.r.e.s – Billy loves Help – if only they would not make the drinks so strong – clouds ones judgment.

Seriously did not think overall quality was up to what it was 2 years ago – a small handful of stunners – those asking R400 to 500. Took a girl from here each night at R200 – EVERY one was a stellar performer – but Billy does treat them well.

General – You quickly forget just how good Rio is – it is not until you are actually back on the ground knee deep in w.h.o.r.e.s that you realize this is as close to ‘PARADISE” as life on earth could be. Whilst I have to travel half way across the world – 35+ hours to get there and 40 odd hours to get home – it is still ‘PARADISE” and must not be missed.

Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input!

Good to see you back in the saddle BBB! I feel the same way about Help.

[QUOTE=Cho 637]Good to see you back in the saddle BBB! I feel the same way about Help.[/QUOTE]Have not been out of the saddle mate - just been riding a different pony.

Rio so far from Australia - I have been to Angeles City 24 times in last 3 years - 2 to 4 day stopovers on way to or from China.

Consistently run into Wes, Disco, X Man, Singhop, Saywoow - many of the old UMV gang.

But as good as AC is - nothing compares to Rio - Brazilians are just the BEST w.h.o.r.e.s.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Dinner - Billy was so disappointed to find Kilogram closed for remodeling. I usually eat here most nights – settled for a place opposite which was called Cena I think – same deal – paid on weight – but quality nowhere near as good as Kilogram.[/QUOTE]

Bob Dole thinks Bad Boy Billy might be his long lost Aussie cousin. That's what Bob Dole thinks.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ApPllm1ZfA[/url]

[QUOTE=Lukasek]So far as here it seems slow in the last days, I share something.

This time I got 7 girls from termas, 3 from 4x4, 2 from solarium, 1 from luomo and from montecarlo too.

During my first trip, my favourite terma was solarium, but during this trip both the girls were a... disaster.

However I can say it was my fault, cause with the first one I was in hurry, not much patience to "test" her and she was smarter too. She was one of the few that are older than 30 yo, nice face and smile, but big ass. She was smart as, when we spoke, she seems very friendly, but once in cabine after less than half minute of bbbj wanted to start immediately sex; even FK in cabine was not nice as at the bar. I should understood even cause she was almost the only one girl alone for all the time, neither customers or the other girls went to speak with her....just me LOL.
The second one was a bit drunk and instead to mean more fun in cabine, it turned to make her so lazy I got the feeling she paid me as she wanted daty and only a bit of bbbj.

However despite these 2 girls, all the others were fabulous as you can expect from terma girls.

4x4 for me it is a solid guarantee of GFE, yes it has the little bad point that it get so crowded that it is often hard to find a place where to sit down a while, so I never was able to have quite long and nice conversation with the girl, but once in cabine....you forgot how many hours it took you to get to Rio :)

Luomo and Montecarlo has for me a bit higher quality of girls, even if, obviously, much less choice, but with the good point that you can really relax there, as if you was in normal bar full of girls in bikini, these 2 termas do not have the feeling of sex factory that has 4x4.
To sit down and have nice conversation with the girl, for me it is part of the fun too.

I "regret" I did not see Centaurus, as I know it is very expensive and the rip off terma, but in january I saw there really many beautiful girls, so next trip I will go there and not on sunday as this time ;)

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hey Lukasek,

I posted this question back a couple pages but didn't receive a response from you, not sure if you missed or just didn't want to respond? Anyway, what's the name of the girl and which terma does she work at that you took the photo's of?

Thanks!

RS911

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy] US$1,290 business class Sydney-LAX-Rio and return?

Impossible? Nah - booked and paid for.[/QUOTE]

I would appreciate your help in getting that price for business class from the US.

Great report and awesome pics BBB!
I also would like more info on how you got that deal for business class.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Crchico]Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input![/QUOTE]

You you may see a 50%+ decline in the line up of available girls as most will spend that time with their families. However, you should still be able to get some actions. A word of advise: for Christmas day and New year's day, make sure you arrange something with a girl you've previously been with as on those days, not much hobby wise going on.

Welcome to the Marvelous City, you'll have the time of your life. :)

[QUOTE=The Watcher]I would appreciate your help in getting that price for business class from the US.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sprite13]I also would like more info on how you got that deal for business class. [/QUOTE]Billy is more than happy to share the info guys but there are a couple of problems involved.

1. You definitely need to OWN or have COMPLETE CONTROL of the company you work for. There are a series of somewhat complicated financial transactions involved - you need to have COMPLETE CONTROL of the finances of a company.

2. Here is the big problem - I will never put this in writing - I need to be sitting beside you and explain it to you step by step. It took me like 6 months to devise this strategy - I will never jeopardise it's potential by putting it out in the public domain. I can get it to work pretty easily here in Australia - I assume same could be acheived in other locations.

Sorry guys - but if we ever sit down over a beer or 3 it's available then.

[QUOTE=Redsox911]...I posted this question back a couple pages but didn't receive a response from you, not sure if you missed...[/QUOTE]

Yes, I missed, sorry, I guess your posts do not get posted immediately as regular member.

However where is the point to hide their faces, tatoos and so on and then to tell names and places where do they work ? ;)

I do cause I do not want in none way to put girls in troubles.

Rio sometimes is too small, news go too fast, however I have been in only 4 termas, at least you do not stay in Rio only 3 days, you should be able to find her :)

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Yes, I missed, sorry, I guess your posts do not get posted immediately as regular member.

However where is the point to hide their faces, tatoos and so on and then to tell names and places where do they work ? ;)

I do cause I do not want in none way to put girls in troubles.

Rio sometimes is too small, news go too fast, however I have been in only 4 termas, at least you do not stay in Rio only 3 days, you should be able to find her :)[/QUOTE]Hi Lukasek,

No, unfortunately my posts are moderated for some reason, not sure how to get around that. As for not naming the gal, I'll be there for 10 days soon so hopefully I'll run into her somewhere.

RS911

[QUOTE=Redsox911]...No, unfortunately my posts are moderated for some reason, not sure how to get around that...[/QUOTE]

Hi, the reason should be this: "Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports." ;)

[QUOTE=Crchico]Thanks in advance for the help of you experienced Rio guys! I need to get out of the States over Christmas and have never been to Rio. I've been to other countries at this time and it usually has about a 50% reduction in ladies to play with. Is that the case in Rio too or because of the larger population will I still be able to have a good selection to pick from.

Again, thanks for your input![/QUOTE]


The holidays are occuring at the worst dates this year:

X-mas eve falls on a Thursday, and X-mas falls on Friday. As such, no termas from Thursday to Monday.

Same for New year's celebration. No termas from Thursday to Monday.

p.s.: Brazilians take religious holidays very seriously. I actually had a girl telling me she won't hump on Christ day.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Hi, the reason should be this: "Regular Members are automatically upgraded to Senior Member when they have been a Forum Member for 6 months AND have posted 25 or more reports." ;)[/QUOTE]Thanks for the explanation! I appreciate it.

Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Solarium – exactly same deal as Monte Carlo. I am not sure which of these 2 it was but when I visited one all the girls were in kinda sexy street clothes – fucking hated it – had to work doubly hard to check the bodies.
[/QUOTE]

I think Friday is evening wear day/night.

[QUOTE=Holandês Voador]Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?[/QUOTE]

NO, NOT yet

Help is still limping along.

Latest news it will close March 2010.

BBB,

Great posts, keep it up. Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considerad them friends with whom were have a business relationship.

[QUOTE=Holandês Voador]Guys,

Just a quick question: is it true that Help closed down last august? I read some things about it on the internet, but I couldn't find any confirmation.

Is it true?[/QUOTE]

That was one day for a private party.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]BBB,

Great posts, keep it up. Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considerad them friends with whom were have a business relationship.[/QUOTE]Agreed, Billy has provided some terrific posts, info and pics here. Regardless of the terminology used (remember there are guys from different cultures, countries, etc. Participating here). It seems that BBB takes good care of the ladies/w. H. O. R. E. S. He is with and then speaks highly of them. Unlike some others that have posted here that just are looking at being abusive to them. Like you, I like his gung-ho attitude and free-wheeling partying spirit.

Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.

[QUOTE=Rss910]Is there a place to report on dirty girls? Meaning a place to warn others to avoid girls that are known to be dirty? OBVIOUSLY we all take a risk, even with safe practice, but we should all look out for each other right? It just occurred to me, because a friend of mine told me to avoid this beautiful girl named Tiffany (dark skinned, long black hair, eyebrow and tongue piercing, panther tattoo on side of stomach yes she was THAT hot) due to a rep of particularly prolific wart and herp giving. Ring a bell with anyone? I would hate to come home with a string or circle of mushrooms down there.[/QUOTE]You reported in the right place. Thanks for helping fellow hobbyists to stay clean.

I believe you may be the first person to report an STI in Rio this year. The garotas down there are all virgins, you know, and that's why no one ever reports getting anything. It's just idyllic.

I think I might have missed something. What is the big stigma about Help? I just talked to some random broad online who lives in Copa. I asked her what she thought about Help Disco. She was quick to shoot it down, saying there are so many drugs and prostitutes there. I asked her if she had ever been and she said no and did not want to. Then I asked her if she had ever been to Paris. She said no. I said so what do you think about Paris? She said that she couldn't tell me because she had never been there. So duhhh. Why is she so quick to have an opinion on once place she has never been but does not even think to have one for another?

Her idea was that there are people just fucking and snorting cocaine in the open air as free as the wind. I told her don't you think if that was the case the police would be all over the place? Any reasonable person who went to Help would not be able to discern that the general population of women there were working (or rather looking for work), and I seriously doubt they would ever see any drugs (at least I haven't in countless visits; but I have been propositioned on one of the side streets). I know several guys who went on their first visit and just thought it was a regular disco. Sure the informed of the population knows that girls go there to pick up guys and later go to their place in exchange for money. But they also know girls find work at Copacabana beach as well. Why aren't they bitching about that and trying to shut that down? There are no illegal activities per se going on at the place so what the fuck?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Have not been out of the saddle mate - just been riding a different pony.

Rio so far from Australia - I have been to Angeles City 24 times in last 3 years - 2 to 4 day stopovers on way to or from China.

Consistently run into Wes, Disco, X Man, Singhop, Saywoow - many of the old UMV gang.

But as good as AC is - nothing compares to Rio - Brazilians are just the BEST w.h.o.r.e.s.[/QUOTE]Triple B, this is X-Man of UMV and I was in AC three weeks ago and Wes was there last month. I'm off to Berlin (Artemis) in two weeks and I'll be going back to Rio (my 13th trip this year) first week in Nov.

As always I like how you set the standard by showing the ful pics and not hidng the face (UMV standards).

We all have to find some time to hook up either in Rio or AC. I'll be heading to BKK a lot next year because I miss that place, ditto Singapore but Rio will always be Rio.

You need to try Germany's FKK. You will be surprised as to how fun it can be.

For those who want more on the planned build for the Olympics, see:

[url]http://www.philly.com/philly/photos/Brazil_celebrates_2010_selection.html[/url]

(slide 55 is a classic! The 2 bodyguards really complete the picture!)

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational] Any reasonable person who went to Help would not be able to discern that the general population of women there were working (or rather looking for work), and I seriously doubt they would ever see any drugs (at least I haven't in countless visits; but I have been propositioned on one of the side streets). I know several guys who went on their first visit and just thought it was a regular disco. Sure the informed of the population knows that girls go there to pick up guys and later go to their place in exchange for money. But they also know girls find work at Copacabana beach as well. Why aren't they bitching about that and trying to shut that down? There are no illegal activities per se going on at the place so what the fuck?[/QUOTE]

I have to 2nd this to the fullest!

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Why is she so quick to have an opinion on once place she has never been but does not even think to have one for another?[/QUOTE]
I've never been to Somalia, but I still have a strong opinion about the place. :) Just joking...

I've never seen any girls at Help TAKING drugs, but I've seen plenty of them high on drugs. What I heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. I think the majority of the GPs in Copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. Just my opinion.

Closing Help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.

[quote=sperto]i've never been to somalia, but i still have a strong opinion about the place. :) just joking...

i've never seen any girls at help taking drugs, but i've seen plenty of them high on drugs. what i heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. i think the majority of the gps in copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. just my opinion.

closing help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.[/quote]

do you know if they have security in the women's bathroom, to try and stem the drug use? i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.

[quote=bravo]do you know if they have security in the women's bathroom, to try and stem the drug use? i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.[/quote]
no security, only an attendant.
imagine the stories this attendant could tell. she must have seen and heard a lot of funny stories, and also seen quite a few ugly catfights.

[quote=bravo]...i know the mens room attendant will frequently walk up and down and peer over the door to make sure you are not using drugs in the bathroom.[/quote]

correct....think that in february, i stayed a bit too long time inside the bathroom cause i took out the money i hide in my socks and i was counting them and put some in wallet and some in front pockets when the bodyguard looked over the door with a angry face that suddenly changed in a smile when he saw i was not there taking some drugs.

it is "funny" cause they control so well the men's bathroom when i have the feeling the ones who uses drugs are especially gdp and not gringos.

[QUOTE=Dollars]Triple B, this is X-Man of UMV[/QUOTE]Great to hear from you again mate - damn shame you were not in Rio when I was there - I am desperate to try Vila Mimosa.

Am off to Changping in China on Oct 16 - 2 nights hunting 'China Dolls'.

There is a place in Changping called the 'catacombs', the mafia recruit 18 to 20yo from the farms to work on contract - the girls live, eat and shit in a room 5ft x 5ft - you do them on site for US$5 - cannot wait to try it - they tell me it makes Vila Mimosa look and smell like the Marriott.

Off to AC for 4 nights after China - Disco was going to join me - Singhop will be there - Saywoow too maybe.

How the fuck do you get to Rio 13 times? Fuck man that is sensational - I thought I was doing a great job to get to China 8 times so far this year and Angeles City 6 times.

I have booked my next Rio trip - June 8 to 15, 2010 - I swapped Singhop 1 x business class Melbourne-LAX-RIO for 3 business class flights Sydney-Sing-Manila.

Stick the dates in your calendar - don't be afraid to email me.

Aint that just the truest statement - NO PLACE LIKE RIO - NO W.H.O.R.E.S on the planet like Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Am off to Changping in China on Oct 16 - 2 nights hunting 'China Dolls'.
There is a place in Changping called the 'catacombs', the mafia recruit 18 to 20yo from the farms to work on contract - the girls live, eat and shit in a room 5ft x 5ft - you do them on site for US$5 - cannot wait to try it - they tell me it makes Vila Mimosa look and smell like the Marriott.[/QUOTE]
I like sleazy places like VM, but this place the "catacombs" only sounds disgusting. It would propably be illegal in Brazil. I guess they would consider it to be forcing girls to become sexslaves under miserable conditions.
[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]NO PLACE LIKE RIO - NO W.H.O.R.E.S on the planet like Brazilian w.h.o.r.e.s[/QUOTE]
I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."

[QUOTE=Sperto]....
I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."[/QUOTE]


A great quote to you Sperto !!!

The first time I saw he used this word, I said ok, he just does not get it, then it started to be boring, now I am happy I did not PM him to meet for a beer and my buddy even more than me LOL.

After read his bullshit about airfare strategy, much more than happy....

Using this word so often to call the pros, and almost in every sentence it shows how zero respect he has for the girls.....and btw it is not our business what they do with their lifes so far as it exists free choice.

Moreover I am sure more many GDP are much better human being than "some" mongers.

And yes, for me it is a big luck he lives 35 hours from Rio LOOOOL :) but I am happy for him he developed scientific quantum rocket strategy to get business class for couple of bucks and indeed he is a "big" heart guy that shares this strategy with everybody....will PM to meet him in june, so he will feel not so sad as this time when nobody cares to meet him :)) ....poor baby....

Respect and do not denigrate the others, especially GDP that gave you exactly what you wanted....no need to say more...

Is this terma still open? How far is this from Copa and what are the prices?

How many gordas?

[QUOTE=Sperto]I've never been to Somalia, but I still have a strong opinion about the place. :) Just joking...

I've never seen any girls at Help TAKING drugs, but I've seen plenty of them high on drugs. What I heard from the girls there is a lot of snorting going on in the womens toilets. I think the majority of the GPs in Copa use some kind of drugs on a more or less regularly basis. Just my opinion.

Closing Help has nothing to do with the visitors using drugs.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I've never seen anything overt except the time I saw them throw a dude out of MC for lighting up some weed in a room.

But I have noticed a lot of girls with the sniffles. All year round. So I have always suspected something was going on in the restrooms. Of course, this is not why they are closing Help. That has been very well documented in O Globo.

[QUOTE=Sperto]I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).

You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."[/QUOTE]I agree with the above in so far that I wouldn't call it disrespect but childish and immature in this case. Nevertheless I observe here regularly pejorative descriptions of the women who offer us their services, mostly by the same repetitive offenders. This behaviour harms the business which can not flourish without a minimum of social tolerance.

Fyi

There is a Tiffany at Monte Carlo that has been there for 5 days and she looks very similiar to a Tiffany at Love Story in Sao Paulo. Look at post 321 in Sao Paulo Reports. Does anyone know if her tattoo is of a Panther? If so she is the same Tiffany from Sao Paulo who may have been transmitting HPV and Herpes to a lot of customers.

Thanks to all you guys who took the time to post your interesting, insightful and constructive responses to Billy’s post below.

The one thing that Billy loves about life the most is that we are all DIFFERENT – we have different wants and desires – we all like and pursue different things in life – we all ‘march to the beat of a different drum’ – it is this variety that makes up ‘the rich tapestry of life’.

Please indulge Billy for a moment or two as I do a bit of ‘housekeeping’.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]BBB……..Great posts, keep it up………Just one thing and please take it for what it is -- an observation. You spend a lot of time putting those periods in between the letters to get around the auto checker. It would be easier and nicer to use other words like garotas or even ladies. Everybody would still get it. It's just that some of us considered them friends with whom were have a business relationship. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sperto]I know you enjoy the word wh*re very much, but your reports would be more enjoyable if you could change it something more decent (GP, GDP, garota de programa).........You should also respect Jacksons rules: "The words "Whor*e", "*****" and "****" are not allowed because these words are commonly used to denigrate women, and that's not what this website is all about."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lukasek]A great quote to you Sperto !!!........The first time I saw he used this word, I said ok, he just does not get it, then it started to be boring,……..Using this word so often to call the pros, and almost in every sentence it shows how zero respect he has for the girls.....and btw it is not our business what they do with their life’s so far as it exists free choice.[/QUOTE]SlimHoleDrill, Sperto, Lukasek – I was not aware of the sensitivity in this thread to the usage of the term w.h.o.r.e.s as I did. It will never be Billy’s intention or desire to cause concern, angst or distress to any forum reader.

Indeed yesterday I contacted the site administrators to clarify the usage of this term – please see below:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy] I would like clarification on the Administrators view on the usage of the term w.h.o.r.e when talking about / descibing multiple prostitutes in general?

Is this term considered offensive?

Is the usage of this term permissible / discouraged? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jackson] Hi,

"w.h.o.r.e" is a word that is often used to degrade women.

I would prefer that members use the term "working girl" or "Prostitute", or simply "girl".

Thanks,

Jackson [/QUOTE]
It is also never Billy’s intention to post any material that is in breach of site guidelines. If I have offended you guys please accept my apologies
[QUOTE=Lukasek] now I am happy I did not PM him to meet for a beer and my buddy even more than me LOL……….. will PM to meet him in June, so he will feel not so sad as this time when nobody cares to meet him :)) ....poor baby.... [/QUOTE]Lukasek – do I detect a note of sarcasm in your response of did you genuinely shed a tear that we did not meet?

I will give you the benefit of the doubt and go with the notion that you were genuinely upset that we did not meet. No problems mate – keep in touch – I am sure our paths will cross some day – I am equally sure we will end up great friends after we sit and chat over a beer or two.

As for your friend – well please pass on to him that Billy will try to not lose too much sleep tonight knowing that HE did not want to meet me. [QUOTE=Lukasek]After read his bullshit about airfare strategy, much more than happy....[/QUOTE]Now Lukasek – how should I read this response? Was it a measured, rational, intelligent response? Or was it borne out of jealousy, ignorance and naivety?

I will go with the former – I will grant you that what I provided in information regarding my airfare strategy might indeed lead some people to doubt that it could ever be achievable.

Billy put this information on the table and then said I will not go further – OK then I guess I do owe it to those reading to provide SOME information which might allow a ‘reasonable’ man to decide on its possible ‘workability’ or otherwise.

Again – I WILL NOT spell this out chapter and verse – rather you guys reading this and that POSSIBLY could make this work for yourselves will need to put your thinking caps on and fill in the blanks. Trust me – Billy is no rocket scientist – so if I can get to work many others will be able to do the same.

As I previously stated – you need to have own your own company / entity OR have complete financial control over a company / entity.

You need a credit card with a HIGH ‘rewards points’ feature built in.

You need to have the ability to continually roll over funds through your credit card into a bank account and rotate those funds around in a circle to re-process on an ongoing basis. The trick here is to minimise the ‘gap’ between % 'earn' in rewards points terms and % ‘cost’ in merchant facility terms.

If you are lost by now – then forget it – it isn’t going to work for you.

That’s about all I will say – go do the maths – do your research – it does work.

2 critical things to keep in mind – 1. Consult your accountant or taxation advisor – no point in earning a shit load of free flights then having the tax man bite you on the arse on the other end 2. Be prepared to have to deal with the back room boys from your credit card company and merchant facility provider – they will almost definitely require you substantiate the ‘bona fides’ of the transactions.

Once again thanks guys for bearing with me in addressing these matters – good hunting out there – and treat the girls well

BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?

[QUOTE=Christopherd]BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?[/QUOTE]
Overcourse:
Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality: Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]BBB - how about just using the first person while you're doing the makeover?[/QUOTE]
Bob Dole thinks Bad Boy Billy should use the first person. That's what Bob Dole thinks.

After seeing him hawking Viagra, I assumed that Bob Dole was experiencing erections lasting more than four hours. Maybe the same can be said of Bad Boy Billy.

[QUOTE=WaynesWorld]Fyi

There is a Tiffany at Monte Carlo that has been there for 5 days and she looks very similiar to a Tiffany at Love Story in Sao Paulo. Look at post 321 in Sao Paulo Reports. Does anyone know if her tattoo is of a Panther? If so she is the same Tiffany from Sao Paulo who may have been transmitting HPV and Herpes to a lot of customers.[/QUOTE]How do you know she's been spreading HPV Herpes to A LOT of customers? Did she give you Herpes or you angry at her?

[QUOTE=Sperto]Overcourse:
Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality: Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.[/QUOTE]

Great and great !!!!

No doubt he is a narcissist. I am sure that if he doesn't understand that the term "w***e" is offensive and needs to contact Jackson to realize it, maybe somebody will have to explain to him the meaning of narcissist....It's a never ending story I guess...

Just one example of what narcissistic person does and thinks it is a common thing that everybody else does:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]...
If you see any of the attached buttons around you will know Billy is / was close by - please say 'gday mate'.[/QUOTE]


Another example about what a great super monger he "thinks" he is:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]...- I do not need 'hand holding' .....
Billy DOES NOT need hand holding - Billy DOES NOT require babysitting[/QUOTE]

BUT:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Don was superb... and he also got me home from 4 x 4 when I just could not get the taxi driver to understand where I wanted to go[/QUOTE]

Congratulations bad boy billy, I guess you are the first one here not able to get home alone from 4x4.

Even a normal common tourist knows that the first and most important thing to do once you arrive at your apt or hotel, is..... to know the street and the number where you are. Bad boy billy.....I'll share with you a secret.....it is called the address....do you know it ? You do not....

It is easy go out, but first you have to be sure you are able to come back by yourself if it is true you do not need babysitter.....I know it is so obvious, but not for everybody....

And it really does not matter if you do not know portuguese and have bad short term memory, just write the street and the number on a piece of paper, show it to EVERY taxi driver and you will be able to get home..... alone !

Unbelievable ? Yes, sometimes a piece of paper for somebody does wonders....

bbb enjoy China, where, considering how difficult the language is there compared to portuguese, you will need the owner of your apt to come bring you home every night. But with the money you save with your airfare ticket strategy, surely you can afford it.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Congratulations bad boy billy, I guess you are the first one here not able to get home alone from 4x4.

Even a normal common tourist knows that the first and most important thing to do once you arrive at your apt or hotel, is..... to know the street and the number where you are. Bad boy billy.....I'll share with you a secret.....it is called the address....do you know it ? You do not....

It is easy go out, but first you have to be sure you are able to come back by yourself if it is true you do not need babysitter.....I know it is so obvious, but not for everybody....

And it really does not matter if you do not know portuguese and have bad short term memory, just write the street and the number on a piece of paper, show it to EVERY taxi driver and you will be able to get home..... alone !

Unbelievable ? Yes, sometimes a piece of paper for somebody does wonders....[/QUOTE]
Once again thank you Luka my boy for your sound advice.

Please see picture attached.

Lucky for Billy that you are such a man of the world and possess far greater knowledge / experience than I do - I am sure the assistance you are now willingly supplying will stand me in good stead in the future..

Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was - but then again if he did you and I would not be continuing with our open, enjoyable and informative discussions.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Once again thank you Luka ...
Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was ..[/QUOTE]

Rua Almirante Goncalves is a one-block long street blocked on the west end by a park and exiting on Ave Atlantica. It can only be accessed from Rua Aires Saldana. Because of this obscurity, many taxistas are unfamiliar with Rua Almirante Goncalves. Ironically many taxistas know how to get to Debret Hotel but they do not know the name of this little street where it is located.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Rua Almirante Gobcalves is a one-block long street blocked on the west end by a park and exiting on Ave Atlantica. It can only be accessed from Rua Aires Saldana. Because of this obscurity, many taxistas are unfamiliar with Rua Almirante Gobcalves. Ironically many taxistas know how to get to Debret Hotel but they do not know the name of this little street where it is located.[/QUOTE]
PL kinda funny twist to this story.

I came out of 4 x 4 about 9pm and it was pouring rain - the road outside 4 x 4 was actually 3 to 4 inches deep with water - no taxis in sight - I waited in the rain for 3 or 4 minutes before running out to the main road to right of 4 x 4 entrance.

I grabbed a taxi and showed him the address. He spoke no english - me no Port - and he just shrugged his shoulders.

I called Don and he tried to explain the address - then I heard the taxi driver say oh ALCAZAR - oh ALCAZAR - he knew where Alcazar Restaurant was but had no idea of the street name. Had it not been for the downpour I guess I would have just kept grabbing different taxis til a driver recognised the address - but that rain sure put a 'dampener' on that plan.

From then on I tried that strategy on several taxi drivers - didn't show them the address just repeated ALCAZAR - ALCAZAR - most took me straight there.

for the record – billy is old, fat and seriously ugly – i need all the help i can get to find suitable willing ‘bed partners’.

now i realize i am not the first person on earth to adopt this strategy – but whenever i go a’huntin ‘ladies of the night’ i always go armed with a shit load of ‘gifts for the girls’.

pics fiesta gift1 and fiesta gift2 show the gifts we gave to our fiesta friends’ a couple of years ago:
1. fake designer sunglasses from china – dior, chanel, gucci, dolce & gabana – all these brands adored by the girls
2. genuine ‘victoria secret’ panties from usa
3. tiny ‘koalas’ from australia
the fake sunglasses i buy in the markets in beijing / shanghai for us$3 to 4 each. the victoria secret panties i think cost us$5 each – not 100% sure – my mate mel sourced them – the tiny little koalas cost like us$.20 each.

this time i gave every girl i sessioned with a pair of fake sunglasses - see pic gifts 3 us$3 to 4 each - and t-shirt from australia – see pic gifts 4 – us$4 each.

i had 2 girls from karla first day i arrived – gave them their gifts after the session – they loved them. by the time the next karla girl arrived next day she knew all about the gifts and was asking for her gift before we even started.

in the termas i always gave the girls their gifts in the boite after the session – you can imagine the interest from all the other girls as my recent ‘horizontal tango partner’ was trying on her new sunnies and t-shirt in the bar and checking herself out for like 10 to 15 mins.

helpeee girls as we all know too talk very much between themselves – after your first girl gets back to her friends and associates to report her new acquisitions it’s amazing how many new friends you yourself will acquire.

One problem when it comes to buying the girls pantys, they are HUGE compared to the underwear they normally wear. Even the VS thongs are really big and most of the girls just laughed when I gave them as present.

[QUOTE=Bravo]One problem when it comes to buying the girls pantys, they are HUGE compared to the underwear they normally wear. Even the VS thongs are really big and most of the girls just laughed when I gave them as present.[/QUOTE]I do not really remember whether that was an issue or not.

I do know I headed off with 20 Extra Small and 20 Small T-Shirts - the Extra Small fitted perfectly whilst the girls could 'swim' in the Small sized ones - it floored me.

Thats the beauty of the fake designer sunglasses - one size fits all.

[QUOTE=Trafukin]I heard Luana worked at Black and white that's the only reason I am intersted in going. I may give it a try but will be PISSED if she's not working there.[/QUOTE]


She said on Hotside that she doesnt work there anymore. However that may have been a business maneuver, so guys will pay her the 300R for two hours she is asking for as an escort, instead of going to B&W and fucking her for only 90R.


Best to try and get a phone number to black & WHite and calling first, see if she is working that day.

[QUOTE=Saopaulob]I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.[/QUOTE]
While that well might happen (or they'll get to the area and drive about till you say stop) with some drivers, it's also easy to believe you're being taken advantage of just cos they're navigating a one-way system - as in many countries. I usually stay in a small street myself and would get into the habit of saying it is [I]near[/I] (perto) such-and-such. Or have it written down - though basics like, left, right, here, stop, slow, will make you feel much more in control when using a taxi. I'm not fluent in some conversational areas, but I can switch from dumb friendly gringo to giving rapid, fluent directions to get to my apto, which helps dispel ideas of taking me for a further 'ride'. Especially to the garota sitting next me too. For journeys within Copa, it is easy to get to know the streets, routes, and that no journey at night should be over 10R, even if you're generous enough to agree it without meter.

For some reason I could not respond directly to his long post. But in it he provides an overview to his travel miles plan which seems to involve making charges on his credit cards through his company's merchant cc accounts to get credit for miles. Then I suspect his company would pay off the card(s) and/or issue refunds. He warns:

"2 critical things to keep in mind – 1. Consult your accountant or taxation advisor – no point in earning a shit load of free flights then having the tax man bite you on the arse on the other end 2. Be prepared to have to deal with the back room boys from your credit card company and merchant facility provider – they will almost definitely require you substantiate the ‘bona fides’ of the transactions."

I will only say that if you plan on pursuing this plan, adhere to his warnings.

Termas Black and White, Av. Paris, 634 - Bonsucesso, Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil, 21041-020, (21) 2280-7499
Entrada: R$ 10,00 (consumação)
30 minutos: R$60,00
60 minutos: R$90,0

I found the above info using Google advance search, (search in Portuguese Language.) It will take you to a competing forum. Use Google maps to locate the address in Rio. (It's surrounded by Favelas!)
Somewhat difficult finding the above info, as the address is not listed in Gpguia nor BitchMaps, and regular Google search did not find it.

BTW, Luana has 2 termas B&W reviews at GPGuia. Most recent is from 05, 2009. Nao for anal per the reviews.

[quote=bad boy billy]for the record – billy is old, fat and seriously ugly – i need all the help i can get to find suitable willing ‘bed partners’.

now i realize i am not the first person on earth to adopt this strategy – but whenever i go a’huntin ‘ladies of the night’ i always go armed with a shit load of ‘gifts for the girls’.

pics fiesta gift1 and fiesta gift2 show the gifts we gave to our fiesta friends’ a couple of years ago:
1. fake designer sunglasses from china – dior, chanel, gucci, dolce & gabana – all these brands adored by the girls
2. genuine ‘victoria secret’ panties from usa
3. tiny ‘koalas’ from australia
the fake sunglasses i buy in the markets in beijing / shanghai for us$3 to 4 each. the victoria secret panties i think cost us$5 each – not 100% sure – my mate mel sourced them – the tiny little koalas cost like us$.20 each.

this time i gave every girl i sessioned with a pair of fake sunglasses - see pic gifts 3 us$3 to 4 each - and t-shirt from australia – see pic gifts 4 – us$4 each.

i had 2 girls from karla first day i arrived – gave them their gifts after the session – they loved them. by the time the next karla girl arrived next day she knew all about the gifts and was asking for her gift before we even started.

in the termas i always gave the girls their gifts in the boite after the session – you can imagine the interest from all the other girls as my recent ‘horizontal tango partner’ was trying on her new sunnies and t-shirt in the bar and checking herself out for like 10 to 15 mins.

helpeee girls as we all know too talk very much between themselves – after your first girl gets back to her friends and associates to report her new acquisitions it’s amazing how many new friends you yourself will acquire.[/quote]what a great idea.

i will be doing this on my next trip.

thanks bad boy billy.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]....I usually stay in a small street myself and would get into the habit of saying it is [I]near[/I] (perto) such-and-such....[/QUOTE]

Christopherd, that's what only a wise person can do.....

bad boy billy was pretending a taxi driver knows all the little streets of a city of 9 million inhabitants cause he need babysitter bringing him in front of the building of her apt, even better if in front of the door, possible at the right floor too...LOL

He wrote this:

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy...
Damn shame that the taxi driver that day did not know where Rua Almirante Gobcalves actually was....[/QUOTE]

I just told him one word, "Help", cause what bad boy billy did not realize is that Rua Almirante Goncalves is far less than 2 minutes from Help. ( he wrote is old, so maybe 3 minutes instead of 2).

Yes damn shame LOL

P.S. actually there is another option, 4x4 to metro stop uruguaiana, less than 1 euro and you are out of cantagalo stop, down along miguel lemos until one street before avenida, aires saldanha, where you get to right and that's all....yes this is an advanced tecnique only for more experienced mongers who are able to buy and read a map of copacabana or to use google maps....

This should end the debate.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Christopherd, that's what only a wise person can do.....I just told him one word, "Help", cause what bad boy billy did not realize is that Rua Almirante Goncalves is far less than 2 minutes from Help.[/QUOTE]Exactly Luka my friend.

Thats why I need your help.

Why don't we team up - imagine the lethal combination we would make - your brains and my looks - we would make Batman and Robin look like rank amateurs.

Well if the Rio girls wanna have fun - who am I to stand in their way?

Inflation in Brazil IS rampant.

Took this girl from Help 2 years ago - R200 all night. She told me she was a student at uni - but no idea what she was studying.

She was a fabulous performer - limited english - we got on exceptionally well - I loved this girl.

I kept in touch - regularly called her - emailed her - even sent her a small gift for XMAS last year.

Return to Rio this trip - she wants R400 for 2 hours and just would not budge. I assume she stioll 'loves' me - so I guess that is just an indication of the Brazilian inflation rate.

[QUOTE=Bravo]She said on Hotside that she doesnt work there anymore. However that may have been a business maneuver, so guys will pay her the 300R for two hours she is asking for as an escort, instead of going to B&W and fucking her for only 90R.

Best to try and get a phone number to black & WHite and calling first, see if she is working that day.[/QUOTE]Does she go by another name on hotside? I don't see her on there.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]...
Thats why I need your help....[/QUOTE]

Billy you are obviously joking me right now, you are ironical, thanks for make me smile. We both know you do not need help at all, maybe Help LOL

Seriously Australia is a country always interested me, despite the girls I am sure it offers really a lot to see and visit. It is in my plan to visit A. in my future when I will get retired especially if together one devushka or garota ;)

In only 2 years from 200 reais all night to 400 reais 2 hours it is so fucking huge difference !!! ( even more considering the worst change usd/euro VS reais ).

This is a great example about how was great Rio just couple of years ago in comparison to now.

Not to mention, the fact you was all the time in contact with her, + present for Xmas, it should gave enough good chance to get better and not worst price.

Amazing how GDP they get ruined in a while by money.

Thanks for sharing info and photos.

[QUOTE=Java Man]Termas Black and White, Av. Paris, 634 - Bonsucesso, Rio de Janeiro, RJ
Brazil, 21041-020, (21) 2280-7499
Entrada: R$ 10,00 (consumação)
30 minutos: R$60,00
60 minutos: R$90,0

I found the above info using Google advance search, (search in Portuguese Language.) It will take you to a competing forum. Use Google maps to locate the address in Rio. (It's surrounded by Favelas!)

Somewhat difficult finding the above info, as the address is not listed in Gpguia nor BitchMaps, and regular Google search did not find it.

BTW, Luana has 2 termas B&W reviews at GPGuia. Most recent is from 05, 2009. Nao for anal per the reviews.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!

The closer I get to leaving Rio, the crazier I tend to get, trying to get one last adventure in. I have promised Tina to see her at L’uomo at 4:30, and she wants to pick some L’uomo girls for me. Since this is a Saturday afternoon and all of the downtown options are closed, L’uomo is happening in a major way now, with about 20 guys and 30 girls crammed into the boite. I meet a first-timer in the shower area, and I fill him in on my favorite way to proceed at L’uomo.

I take my seat next to Tina on the couch in the back corner, massage her sore upper thighs to relief some of the pain she still feels. (No bruising visible, though …). I must say I am getting a stiffie doing this. I consider boning her. But even though I am a safado, I feel that I should not do this to my buddy Rob. Tina waves over a couple of girls, and they climb all over me, kiss, grope, massage my wood, and drink with me. Oh yeah, baby! While these girls are on top of me, I occasionally reach over to play a bit with Tina’s legs, which she seems to find just as much a turn-on as I do. Just compare this setup in your mind to what you get in a typical US strip club, where you have to put down a quite a few c-notes to get anywhere near the same time with the girls, but where the contact is just not really there. What a great great bargain L’uomo is!

Jamile has made the best impression on me. She has an incredibly beautiful pair of natural headlights, which she is very proud of. Since she shows me all of her assets on sofa and lets me get a feel between her legs, too, I am ready. At 6 pm I hand over my key, and we head for 40 minutes of bliss. Jamile tells me that she came twice, and I believe it.

Now I really need to leave for the airport, because it’s 7 pm. After a quick shower, I make a last round through the boite, say goodbye to some of the fellows and many of the girls (with beijos/DFK and bunda-grinding and …). Ahh, but it’s time to go. I go to the hotel and pick up my luggage and get a taxi. As I get to the check in for the flight to the US, I say to myself “how about one more day”. I change my flight to the next night, grab my bags, head back to the hotel, get my room for one more night, and walk across the street to L’uomo.

The girl at the entrance recognizes me, and I do not have to pay the entrance fee again. It takes me literally less than a minute to change back into the robe, and I am in the boite again. It is just a little after 9 pm, and several of the guys I hung with earlier are still there. They whoop and holler, and several girls come running over, laughing and screaming. The song “I got a feeling (that tonight’s gonna be a good night…)” from the Black Eyed Peas is playing as one of those heavy-beat dance remixes, and I know that I made the right decision to stay for one more. When L’uomo is good it is, for me at least, the best place in the world; and tonight it is very good. Just the right mix of guys and girls: Enough men to keep the girls at constant attention, but not so many guys that it turns into a sausage-fest.

At 11 I head to the cabina for one more battle with Jamile. We only booked a small room for 40 minutes, but as we pass the door of the super-suite, Tina comes out and waves us in. She and Rob and another girl are in there and just getting ready. OK, let’s join that party. First, Jamile and I just stand against the wall, Rob and the third girl (sorry, never got introduced by name) are on the giant round bed, and he is eating her out as she sits on his face, Tina is on the phone ordering drinks. Then Jamile and I move onto the bed, too, and we really get into each other. While she is on top of me, I barely register a lot of commotion, sharp words in Portuguese, the drink tray spilling. I notice, though, that the third girl is now gone from the room, and Tina and Rob are moving into the suite bathroom, continuing their argument. They then leave, and we have the suite to ourselves. It’s actually a really good first pop, and she comes twice as well, the second time happens way after I am done already and somewhat limp inside her, but the drawback is that we have lost the condom inside her. This week sure turned out to be not exactly a safe-sex visit to Rio!

We clean up in the shower and have time enough for one more session before the knock on the door comes and the hour is over. Jamile cannot find another condom (they have vanished, together with my bathrobe as the others exited). So Jamile decides to reuse the one we just fished out of her. I have a hard time not laughing, but it makes her feel better; so why not. What exactly this would prevent now, who knows. We agree to meet in the boite after the shower, but then the boite is already closed. I see Ingrid is still hanging around and send her (yes, she is a sweetheart and does this kind of thing for me. Did I mention I love her?) into the girls' changing room to ask Jamile to meet me “after hours”. Since this part is non-programa, I follow my usual custom and do not report on it. BTW, one of my new L’uomo buddies, a first-timer from Holland, who I gave my entire playbook on how to pull the after hour take home, also met up with his girl downstairs. I seem to be no isolated case.

that's all for this one - now back to the usual bickering
euro

Friday. Around 6 I hopped on the metro got off at the next exit and went to Cervantes for an out-of-this-world delicious steak sandwich with cheese and pineapple. Ate it standing at the counter, washed it down with draft beer, and got out for under 20R. Christopherd showed me this place, and now its one of my favorites. Back onto the metro an on to Uruguaiana station.

I had walked by 502 Alfandega on the day before and wanted to reacquaint myself. So I do my usual metro ride again, but stop at the last doorway on the right side of Alfandega before it runs into Rio Branco. There is no sign on the building, but the door is open and shows the stairs lit with little Xmas light that leads up. Entrance is 20R, but counts towards your drinks. You get a plastic card with your number on it, and off you go (fully clothed, btw) into the boite. There are only 20 girls or so, several of them below my threshold (not judging, just stating what goes on in my mind), but three nice candidates. For me the face is the most important body part of a girl, and I have to be physically attracted to the face to select somebody. 502 is not exactly conducive to face recognition, because the boite is such a dark tunnel. But I just park myself a couple of feet in front of the bar, with my back to it. The bar illuminates the first 10 – 15 feet sufficiently that you can see what you are getting into.

Even though I try to blend in, the girls smell the gringo in me right away. Susa, one of the girls I had smiled at because she was in my top three, comes over to me and simply asks “do you want sexo”. (Yes, even here the girls speak enough rudimentary English to get the transaction done!) Hmmm, that’s a little too uncomplicated for me; so I say no, but I smile promisingly to her. She tries a little more sophisticated sales pitch and DFKs the hell out of me. “Do you want a Skol”; “Sim”. As we get a little more friendly, she asks me if she can have a Red Bull with her beer. Hmmm. OK. Mixing these sounds disgusting to me. But I am not the judgmental kind. We go to a room. I have options of 20, 40, or 60 minutes. 20 minutes is enough for what I have in mind. 90R. (Which is quite a bit higher than what I remembered, but OK, still a bargain in comparison.) Even the 20-minute cabina comes with a shower and a big bed. BTW, when I check out my 4 Skols, 1 Red Bull and the cover fee together cost me 36R. In other words, total damage for this little expedition is only 132R, if I count the two subway fares. So 502 remains a decent option for bargain shoppers, for whom VM is just too dirty.

Around 9 I head back to Siquiera Compos, because I agree with “Rob” to meet there. He wants to introduce me to “Tina”. But when I get there, no trace of him. Of course, I really want to meet Tina; what Rob has told me sound very intriguing. Not here, either. I ask Melina to call her friend Tina and get me Rob’s number. Rob agrees to come over, but Tina will stay at his place, because she has bruised her legs taking a fall.

From 10 to 11 or so on that Friday evening I am the only guy in the boite, and 25 girls are watching me more to see if I pick her. That’s a lot of pressure on a guy! :D I do a lot of drinking and kissing and groping with several of my amigas, but do not commit. Rob and I leave for Veranda Help. He calls Tina, and she comes down from the apartment (which is very close) to meet with us. She limps, but is happy to hang and chat with us. Her plan is to act as my gdp procurement agent. We drink a few rounds, decide to go to Balcony. A few more rounds, but the pickings are slim. Tina orders tequila, because she says that girls look better with tequila in one’s blood. We have a great time talking shit, though, and by the time we decide to grab a cab, it is almost 5 am. I have gotten pretty hammered trying to drink the women present at Balcony beautiful, and I must say that I am reasonably proud of myself when I wake up the next morning withOUT some multiple-tequila enhanced beauty next to me.

on the second day i hop on the metro, get off at uruguaiana station, and waddle through the rain to 4*4. by the time i get there, it is 7 pm, and the place is its usual chaotic mix of unbelievably loud dance re-mixes, drunken horniness, and selling and buying of copulation urges. i love this place just as much as l’uomo, but for entirely different reasons. little tidbits of new info: the keys now have tags with barcodes, and all drink purchases are logged through barcode readers. (now more getting hit on for a few reais of tips, either.) upstairs lounge: closed!

so i drift through this raunchy debauchery. quality by quantity, i seem to remember someone in this forum once stated. exactly right! i allow a few of the girls to make eye contact, touch, bunda grind. many of the girls are very attractive, but since last night at l’uomo took the initial pressure off, nothing that i see overwhelms me right away. i take my time, watch a few girls strip. then a girl gets onto the dance floor part and strips, … because it is her turn. the dj urges her on in his usual over-the-top nasty way, and she is clearly uncomfortable, probably because it is her first time. guys, i am not making this up, but out of nowhere this angelic vision of a girl appears next to the dance floor. she is blond, has a small well-proportioned frames, perfect teeth, and sparkling eyes. and she is wearing this pink satin ensemble of a short negligee and a (very tiny) slip. she seems to glow. ok, she stood right under a floodlight, but still, the effect is there. she smiles at the girl on the dance floor, and i am hopelessly in love. (yeah, yeah, i know, i fall in love often :d). then my vision in pink gets on the dance floor and dfks the hell out of the stripper girl. when she steps away from the dance floor, all of the nervousness is gone from the other girl. i know that i have to have this pink fairy princess victory’s secret catalog model.

briefly the angel vanishes from my sight, and i panic, move over to where she has been. then she appears again, actually not far from where i had been before. i waive her over, and to my delight she complies. she does not do the usual on-floor foreplay, but just takes my hand and leads me to a room (one hour is still 210r). this session with chris turns out to be just the opposite of yesterday’s with melina. but this is not to say bad in any way, just very different. all soft and warm and gentle. i bust a good one during bbbj, and we have to take a mid-workout break to take a shower, then more cuddling and massaging and rubbing and petting and caressing, an more sexo. a really great hour of my life!

she tells me much more about herself than i should put down here. but i give you one detail that is interesting: she is a law student. once i move a part of my business down to brazil, she will likely be the first tax lawyer i hire. she gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to porcao flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. alas, when i call her phone after her law class on the next morning, i can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. i try it again with another phone; same result. i then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time i thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (it must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. :( maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. kismet, i guess.

almost midnight, the metro is closed after 11 on thursdays; i take a taxi, and again get a low-altitude flight experience as my driver races other taxis over near empty boulevards at speeds of more than double the speed limit … with only his parking lights on. i am tired and go to sleep uncharacteristically early.

A few days in Rio have passed; time to write a report. My first impression: As good as ever, but significantly more expensive than in the past. I wasn’t really there to do bargain hunting, but still. The real-dollar exchange rate was bad; I got quotes of 1.6R/$ at the worst places, 1.7 at the Premier Copacabana hotel, 1.7 at 4*4 and 1.8 at L’uomo. L’uomo also accepted euros at a rate of 2.65.

First day, Wednesday: I arrived at the International airport at 8 pm, has to wait a bit for the Real bus (still the same bargain at 7R), took the 40 min. ride to the Copa through the rain, and arrived at the Premier Copacabana across from the Siquiera Campos metro station (still very highly recommended; reasonably priced, free wireless in the room, clean, and girl-friendly) at 9 pm. Tossed my bags into the room, showered and shaved, and was in L’uomo at 9:20.

Ahhh, I was HOME again. There are on the order of 30 girls present every night, and I must say that there isn’t an ugly one in the bunch. The blond girl at the reception recognized me, asked me why it had been so long; the girl in the locker room joked with me about the short bathrobes again, barman Peter remembered my name. Just like in the old TV series “Cheers”, except with a hell-of-a-lot better bunda selection :D.

Prices at L’uomo have gone up. 4R for a mineral water, 5R for a coke, 6R for a Skol, 15R for a tequila or a vodka, 16R for a Red Bull, 240R for a 40 minutes session in a room with a twin bed, 350R for the one hour romp in the suite. The relax area seems permanently closed, which also means no more food or quiet conversations. But all of this does not bother me enough to quit on the place.

I recognize a few girls from last year. Safina, Ingrid (who comes over for a few nice beijos, even though she was booked solid by a brother from the US for the whole evening; she is still a star … and a real sweetheart! I love this girl!), Pietra, Jamile (who now has her braces off and has perfect teeth) remember me from last year and give me the appropriate welcome with gestures ranging from air kisses, to cheek kisses, to tonsil-removal attempts (Pietra :)), and of course the obligatory bunda-grinding.

Pietra and her new friend Melina tag-team me and put on the pressure to do them dupla. I let them try to sell me for a while, buy then the “fodshka-hedgebull” they want, and have an all-around good time on my barstool for at least half an hour. Again, the rule is never to wear underwear under the robe! This way these sales pitches turn into dry-hump sessions, with almost partial insertions. OK, these two vodka-Red Bull drinks for the girls cost me around $40, but that’s two lap dances in a US strip joint, where you cannot even use your hands or kiss. Here I had my hands on all body part of both of the girls for the entire time, and both of their tongues in my mouth at the same time quite often. No friggin way to lose in this negotiation process ;)

Melina exudes the same primal Amazonian animal urge as Pietra, but comes in a smaller package. She has a face that looks stunningly like Rhianna’s. I am not one for big bundas, but like smaller well-shaped ones instead. Melina definitely scores well in this category. So I knew right away I had to have her. She has VERY perky nipples, too.

Off to the initial 40-minute session we go. My reading of Melina’s performance was dead-on, I found out right away. She was attacking me … HARD. Well, I guess the half-hour auditioning period had turned her on just as much as me. Plus she had won out over Pietra! We get so hot that we forget to put on the condom. (I know, I know, no need to lecture me.) I don’t even last 5 minutes, just have time to pull out and bust all over the sheet, creating a nice big puddle. But Milena has not had enough yet, wipes off my dick with her hand, keeps massaging it to prevent it from deflating, and rubs it hard against her clit. As she gets wilder and wilder under me, she grabs my member and rams it hard into herself. OK then, there is no holding back any more, and I go at it like an animal, too.

OK, I am giving a lot of details here, but part of the reason I am writing this is that when I am 90 and sitting in a retirement home, drooling into my oatmeal, I plan to re-read these reports and trigger those memories :D. And I don’t want to forget that feeling of her shuddering under me. Yum!

I shower and get back to the boite on wobbely legs. I sit on the couch with a beer, and Luna and Fernanda come over to join me. Yes, I am a safado, and yes I buy them Skols, and yes I make out with both of them at the same time and let them massage my dick under my robe. I love this place! I would have gone with them for a dupla, but it is closing time.

I get dressed and chat with a guy on my way out. Let’s call him Rob to protect his identity. He is just as impressed with Rio as I am and actually has moved down to Rio for at about half the time each year. We decide to chat a bit longer and to move the conversation to Veranda Help. He sees one of the L’uomo terma girls on the side, and she lives part of the time at his apartment. Let’s call her Tina. They have a very interesting relationship; she calls him about each hour while I am out with him, just to make sure that he is not porking another girl instead of drinking with me. We retire around 4 and agree to meet up two days later.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Billy you are obviously joking me right now, you are ironical, thanks for make me smile. We both know you do not need help at all, maybe Help LOL....................Thanks for sharing info and photos.[/QUOTE]
And thank you for your kind words Lukasek

This time I am not joking - I am serious - keep in touch - I would love to meet up sometime.

[QUOTE=Euro100]Ahhh, I was HOME again.[/QUOTE]Your reports certainly do indicate you were right at home Euro - you painted such a good picture - close my eyes and L'uomo and 4 x 4 are exactly as you describe.

As I sit here in the lounge at MIA, I cannot imagine a better way to prepare for my flight to Rio. Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.

Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Saopaulob]I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes you get a driver from Zona Norte who doesn't really know his way around very well and you have to guide him.

Great reports as usual Euro! Reading your adventures at L'uomo made me get a lot of saudades of that place and Rio! Keep'em coming!:)

BBB,
Could you please ask your alter ego, Billy if he can be kind enough to share contacts of the girl on the far right (the morena with the white top and blue jeans) on the following pic such as where he found her, how much and for how long and how skilled she is?

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=123346[/url]

Cheers mate.

Wow. Great reporting. I've been missing Rio for almost 8 months now and you brought me back with your tales from Luomo. Man I love that place. the only real downer now is how crappy the dollar/real rate has become. It has been in free fall mode since March of last year and shows no signs of letting up. By the time February rolls around, we might be dollar for dollar. Thanks again Euro....

....what a great reports !!!

Thanks so much, cause I was in Rio just 2 weeks ago, but you gave me the feeling to be there again....not to mention I cannot wait to be there again...

Just one note, I really think what makes Rio....the-H-E-A-V-E-N is termas !

The way terma girls are so friendly and their cheap prices.

Rio without termas will be nothing different from one of the other 4 cities I visited (Recife-Foz-Curitiba-Floripa), expensive prices and not great attitude of GDP.

Yes only last time I discovered gpguia and had enough level of portuguese to understand almost all, so maybe I will check Belo Horizonte, so cheap fly there from Rio and escorts looks great, but even a top notch escort at reasonable price does not offer the fun you have to sit down at bar in terma and have great conversation with girl.

Thanks for report Euro100

Is this place in Copa? If so, where at exactly?

Thanks in advance for anyones help.

[QUOTE=Chris H]Is this place in Copa? If so, where at exactly?

Thanks in advance for anyones help.[/QUOTE]

Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.[/QUOTE]

cool, thank you!

[QUOTE=TomChadwick1]Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

How can we answer your question if you don't tell us what country's passport you are holding. Simple isn't it?

[QUOTE=TomChadwick1]Do you need a special visa to visit Rio? I have read that you have to have a roundtrip ticket and send your passport to the Brazil embassy to get one. Need some info.
[/QUOTE]
If you are form the US, you do. If you are from the European Union, on the other hand, you don't. Just one of these instances of tit-for-tat.

And, yes, you need to send your passport to the embassy with a copy of the itinerary. Be prepared for this process to take 2 weeks. Even if you show up in person at the consulate or embassy, it will not be faster (yes, I have tried that!).

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]Yes. It's on Rua Prado Jr right at the corner of Rua Barato Ribiero. It is a well-known restaurant to the locals and it is open till 4 or 5:00 in the morning. They serve generous sandwiches as well as hot meals. The place has simple decor with Don Quihote pictures and wholesome food.[/QUOTE]
Exactly! I actually like to use the stand-up bar, which is open to Rua Barato Ribiero. I consume my sandwich and beer standing up at the bar, and I don't sit down in the restaurant portion.

[QUOTE=Chezz]As I sit here in the lounge at MIA, I cannot imagine a better way to prepare for my flight to Rio. Thanks for taking the time to write a great report.[/QUOTE]
No need to thank me. Just please do some reporting of your own when you get done with your adventures.

Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa!

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa![/QUOTE]

I've gone to L'uomo a few times, and still in FKK mode, took out the entrance fee to pay up front. Every time, they have refused to accept it. Since they discount the entry fee for sessioning with a girl, they wouldn't know what to charge anyway.

[QUOTE=Euro100]If you are form the US, you do. If you are from the European Union, on the other hand, you don't. Just one of these instances of tit-for-tat.

And, yes, you need to send your passport to the embassy with a copy of the itinerary. Be prepared for this process to take 2 weeks. Even if you show up in person at the consulate or embassy, it will not be faster (yes, I have tried that!).[/QUOTE]

I dropped off my passport with the application & $130 money order (ouch) at a specific time @ The Brasilian Embassy in NY, and picked it up the next day with the Visa attached. The website indicates several days I noticed?

[url]http://en.brazilny.org/index.php?/consulado/anchor/tourist/[/url]

[url]http://en.brazilny.org/index.php?/consulado/anchor/horarios/[/url]

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Not too long ago, there was a question about Luomo charging 'up front' for the entry fee. I had never seen this but as I was leaving the other night, a newbie was coming in and they asked for the 60 up front. Not a good trend. I wondered if they gave him the 'girl discount' on the way out. I consider the management to be good friends, but, this is Rio. Don't forget how Centauras has gone. Nossa![/QUOTE]

At AMPs, Termas, Strip clubs, wherever, one should never identify theirself as a newbie. Did the newbie say something to cause them to believe he might not session, i.e. "just checking the place out?" Perhaps Luomo front desk was just covering their bet.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]At AMPs, Termas, Strip clubs, wherever, one should never identify theirself as a newbie. Did the newbie say something to cause them to believe he might not session, I. E. "just checking the place out? " Perhaps Luomo front desk was just covering their bet.[/QUOTE]I am willing to bet he said something like I (DON'T WON'T A GIRL OR NOTHING LIKE THAT I JUST WANT TO LOOK), yeah right LOL

Just like down around those bars around Mabs some will allow you to walk in and take a look and some will NOT unless you pay a fee.

It's always to do your homework or allow them to tell you what's up IF you don't like what they saying keep on steppin.

Kid Cisco

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]And thank you for your kind words Lukasek

This time I am not joking - I am serious - keep in touch - I would love to meet up sometime.[/QUOTE]

Bobby wants Billy not to change, Billy should read this way:

Billy thanks you for your kind words Lukasek.

This time Billy is not joking, Billy is serious, keep in touch with Billy, Billy would love to meet up sometime.

[QUOTE=Euro100] She gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to Porcao Flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. Alas, when I call her phone after her law class on the next morning, I can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. I try it again with another phone; same result. I then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time I thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (It must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. :( Maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. Kismet, I guess.
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Wow this had to hurt especially when you figured out her phone was broken, maybe you could have text her?

[QUOTE=Euro100]
She gives me her phone number by writing it on the palm of my hand; we agree to go on a date to Porcao Flamengo and then out to dance on the next day. Alas, when I call her phone after her law class on the next morning, I can hear her talk and she cannot hear me. I try it again with another phone; same result. I then remember that she got two calls while she was in the room with me, and she could not hear anything either; at the time I thought those were prank calls, but now it dawns on me that her f*cking phone is broken! (It must have happened when we kicked it off the bed during sex) … and so ends our romance. Maybe this is a good thing, because this one could have seriously roped me in. Kismet, I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangue Bon]Wow this had to hurt especially when you figured out her phone was broken, maybe you could have text her?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, good point. But I don't use a cell phone in Brazil. So my only way to call her was through the hotel phone from my room. And I do not know how to send a text this way. Come to think of it: I never text via my cell phones in Europe or the US either.

Plus, as you can see from my reports on the following days, the heartache didn't last that long for me ;) That's the beautiful thing about Rio: There is always a next "love of my life".

[QUOTE=Saopaulob]I believe the taxi drivers know all the streets they just play el stupidito.[/QUOTE]

I'm inclined to agree, actually found a taxi driver who didn't know the location of 4x4.

[QUOTE=Trafukin]Does she go by another name on hotside? I don't see her on there.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I wonder the same thing myself. I don't see her there either, maybe someone here can give us a clue how to find her on Hotside.

She had her own post on the "FALE COM AS ACOMPANHANTES" thread. Doesnt appear to be there now. She was charging 300R for 2 hours! You can always try going to black and white and look for her. If she isnt there, offer to buy one of the girls a drink, if she will give you her cell number.

[QUOTE=Euro100] The real-dollar exchange rate was bad; I got quotes of 1.6R/$ at the worst places, 1.7 at the Premier Copacabana hotel, 1.7 at 4*4 and 1.8 at L’uomo. L’uomo also accepted euros at a rate of 2.65.[/QUOTE]


I know some folks who think the US doallar is going to tank soon. Though we can probably count on the dollar being weak for the near future, I don't think that it's going to depreciate so much that it becomes a third-world currency. Not an economist so I have no idea, but since I earn my money in dollars I certainly hope not.

I'll be in Europe for a few weeks this November (causing trouble & chasing Euro-babes); I reckon that instead of converting my Euros at the end of my vacation I'll keep a few hundred and then exchange them in Rio when I return there in January.

- DSK

[QUOTE=Torinofreak]Yeah, I wonder the same thing myself. I don't see her there either, maybe someone here can give us a clue how to find her on Hotside.[/QUOTE]
I believe the Luana on Hotside is the wrong girl. We want the big ass porn star. In March-May 2009, I heard she was at Black and White. But I was warned not to visit that neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Jamaicanceo]I believe the Luana on Hotside is the wrong girl. We want the big ass porn star. In March-May 2009, I heard she was at Black and White. But I was warned not to visit that neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

Thats the same girl i am talking about, she worked/works at B&W. She also had her own thread on hotside at one time. Maybe some of the americans who live in brasil can look on the brasilian sites and see some updates about her.

[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]I've gone to L'uomo a few times, and still in FKK mode, took out the entrance fee to pay up front. Every time, they have refused to accept it. Since they discount the entry fee for sessioning with a girl, they wouldn't know what to charge anyway.[/QUOTE]I just want to confirm, does L'uomo always discount the entry when you session with a girl or is it only on a certain day they offer this special?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Poucolouco]At AMPs, Termas, Strip clubs, wherever, one should never identify theirself as a newbie. Did the newbie say something to cause them to believe he might not session, i.e. "just checking the place out?" Perhaps Luomo front desk was just covering their bet.[/QUOTE]

I didn't hear the whole conversation but its kind of hard to not look like a newbie when you are one. But I think that is the great thing about the top line places -- newbies don't have to worry. They don't getnripped off. I'm just wondering, now that a newbie who had done his homework posted this (sorry, forgot the name) and I saw it happen, if they are putting in a new policy. At least for first timers? I think they would have a problem with the rest of us. But Centauras did it. I would probably come around given the alternative of not going in. LOL!

[QUOTE=Bravo]Thats the same girl i am talking about, she worked/works at B&W. She also had her own thread on hotside at one time. Maybe some of the americans who live in brasil can look on the brasilian sites and see some updates about her.[/QUOTE]My friend that lives in Brasil is going to visit B &W. I gave him her name and photo. Told him to make sure she is in there. He\I also heard it's a rough hood but was told if you straight to spot from bus\cab should be ok. Plus was told the security was tight in the spot. I will update you after he goes.

If anybody get's update before please let me know.

[QUOTE=Redsox911]I just want to confirm, does L'uomo always discount the entry when you session with a girl or is it only on a certain day they offer this special?

Thanks![/QUOTE]
I think Luomo used to automatically discount R$10 when you sessioned with a girl on any day.
I know that they now discount R$30 (50% off) if you arrive before 7pm on any day of the week and session with a girl anytime during that stay. But I don't know if the R$10 discount above is still true.

[QUOTE=Bravo]Thats the same girl i am talking about, she worked/works at B&W. She also had her own thread on hotside at one time. Maybe some of the americans who live in brasil can look on the brasilian sites and see some updates about her.[/QUOTE]The girl on hotside is has the same name but not the thunder bunda and thighs of the porn star. Maybe I', on the wrong hotside site.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I think Luomo used to automatically discount R$10 when you sessioned with a girl on any day.

I know that they now discount R$30 (50% off) if you arrive before 7pm on any day of the week and session with a girl anytime during that stay. But I don't know if the R$10 discount above is still true.[/QUOTE]Thank you AS, I appreciate that.

[QUOTE=Azn Safado]I think Luomo used to automatically discount R$10 when you sessioned with a girl on any day.
I know that they now discount R$30 (50% off) if you arrive before 7pm on any day of the week and session with a girl anytime during that stay. But I don't know if the R$10 discount above is still true.[/QUOTE]
Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.

[QUOTE=Euro100]Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.[/QUOTE]
That's cool that you can leave and come back later without paying the entry again. I remember your recent airport story - "I think I want to stay another day" and end up back at Luomo a few hours later. Ha.

Hi,

I just answered a PM by a new member, who I had chatted with in L'uomo on Friday. I replied, but it seems that the message bounced. So I am replying here, hoping that my answers are also a little bit interesting for others:

[Quote=...]
I've passed at l'uomo three of my all time best five experiences. So I'm missing it big time... and the worst is that is not easy to me 'justify' another trip to Brazil in some years... is it possible to get in Europe an experience with Brazilians (or other) similar to Brazil?.

I would have loved to learn more from you on how to enjoy the girls outside the termes. I've never done that, but this time was necessary, mainly with Paola with who I had a terrific time. It's something I have to learn to do.

BTW given you're much more experienced than me, could you tell me what's the way of obtaining the most enjoyable experience with those girls?. Meeting with them outside of the club?. To be like boyfriends for some days?. Others?.

Many questions. Thanks. Looking forward to hearing from you. Best.
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Brazilians in Europe? Germany has the FKK places. They are very attractive alternatives. There is a whole section in this forum on them, and they are actually cheaper than L'uomo. The occasional South American girl is there, but the majority are from Germany and Eastern Europe.

Also, a lot of Brazilian girls travel to Spain and in particular Portugal. But I have not mongered there.

London has the Lady Marmalade Parties (also a separate section in this forum). On my only visit (very enjoyable!!!) 4 out of 5 girls were from Brazil. But this is real group sex and may not be your thing.

The kind of connection you can make with the girl in a terma like L'uomo is, however, unrivaled anywhere in Europe.

How do I get the girls to go with me after hours? First, I concentrate all evening on just one girls and do not try to sleep with more than one. I have to do a little pre-screening, because I want to know if they have a boyfriend (most don't, but if they do, then that's a deal beaker right there). Also, they need to speak at least a very small bit of English. Then I get them the drinks they want and make them feel special, commenting on their beauty (whatever they are proud of: bunda, eyes, mouth, ...). I make sure I do plenty of kissing and touching and try to session no earlier than 11 pm. This way I know that there will not be time to get another customer after me. I make sure to make an attempt to use Portuguese when talking with them. After I session with them, I ask them to sit with me in the boite after the shower. More drinks, perhaps cigarettes. Then I ask if she wants to go dancing with me. Lapa, Help, her choice? If yes, great, let's do it. If no is the answer, I invite them to lunch or dinner to the restaurant of their choice. If they don't have a restaurant preference, I suggest Porcao in Flamengo, where they get the royal treatment. I always treat them like a girlfriend in public, not like a wh0re. Complimenting them, being real attentive, asking about their parents/kids/dogs/favorite soccer team. Once I suggest to go to my hotel, they are then always game.

Addition: once I am ready to pop the question to go to my hotel, I always hasten to say not for "sexo", but for "amor". (Translation: I want a freebie - but my version sounds better). "Es muito bonita", "Gusto muito de ti", and phrases like that you should learn by heart, even if you know no Portuguese (like me). When I throw them in with my English, they really appreciate the attempt. Holding hands and smiling like a love-drunk teenager also help. Yes, it may be all an act, but if you want the full experience of theatre, you have to immerse yourself ;)

No matter who a women is or what her intentions are, they all get jealous once you make a connection. This means in particular: [i]do not check out other chicks when you are on your date[/i]. For any girl this is an absolute buzz-killer.

Two more things that are really important:
1. Be prepared that they become clingy! Make sure that you are willing to spend several days with the same girl, or otherwise have an escape route planned. Alternating between termas alone does not seem to be enough in some cases. In other words: [b]select your girl very carefully[/b]!

2. NEVER give her real information about you (where you live, what your full name is, your phone number, your email). I know, many guys do this. But this is my one rule that I do not violate. [b]What happens in Rio STAYS IN RIO![/b]

Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?

Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?

Thanks ;)

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?

Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?

Thanks ;)[/QUOTE]I sessioned with a girl at a Copa terma in March 2009 at 11p. After we cuddled and she came me her information. I returned to Rio in May, she came to my apartment and stay 3 nights and 4 days. I only took her out to eat as a GFE, and we fucked for free every night. On one day she took me to my first trip to Barra Tijuca mall by van and bus. I treated her to her favorite restaurant, Outbacks, at the big mall. We went window shopping at a smaller mall. She tried on a dress at one shop. While she was in the dressing room, I bought her a scarf I saw her staring at with glee.

The shop girls rush and wrapped it. When she came out of the room and was ready to go, I surprised her with the scarf at the glee of the sales girls for being romantic. At the mall the terma girls got me a new cellphone and turned it on using her name and west zone address.

The next day my girl bought me lunch. On the third day we screwed that morning. She showered first. But I got screwed. When it was my turn to showered, the city of Rio turned off the water the how day in all Rio to fix a treatment pipe. So she went to the Zona Sul market on Copa Blvdto get me bottled water to shower and breakfast.

So she took off from her terma for 4 days to be with me. And we had sushi with a buddie who date another terma girl.

My girl and I talk all the time. When she is traveling from her west zone to her Copa terma she calls me. And when she's home after work or on a day off she calls me. I usually acknowledge her call then call her on my international long distance card.

We talk and she is too proud to ask. But she is pretty and busy making money. One of the things she ask me in the beginning if I was jealous. That fctor give me the ability to see other women. She is so predictable.

Jamaicanceo thanks for sharing your experience.

Surely to do it, you do not have jealous and I am not, but I think your experience, that she took 4 days off, it happens very seldom, so congratulation for it ;)

What had Euro100, have her all night, it happens more often.

I think also that to have experience as you had, you need to go to Rio quite often, 2 or 3 times per year as me it is not enough.

And obviously to live there, give you great % to have an experience like this very very often.

I believe many mongers try to date them, so they choose and they probably have problem to choose too LOL.

I got until now only one terma girl with me to noon and surely it was the best night I had in Rio for quality, services, attitude and prices, I got the feeling I slept with an angel LOL....in comparison Help girl it just does not worth it at all.

[QUOTE=Euro100]Yes, this is still true. Their entry is 70, but down to 60 if you session. If you come in before 7 pm, it goes down to 30 with session and 35 without. (10R discount for a 240R transaction is a real joke, but oh well). One thing I found out this time: you can come in before 7, get the discount, stay a while, then leave and return later without paying another entrance fee.[/QUOTE]

Hang on now. I have a live brain cell somewhere that says entry is 60, did they go up while I was not looking? Also, I had the strong impression that 3 sessions wiped out the entry fee, but don't remember the details. I agee with the 50 pct reduction before 7 but you have to watch them on this one. I plan to check closely. It may be small for the occasional user, but it adds up.

[QUOTE=SlimHoleDrill]Hang on now. I have a live brain cell somewhere that says entry is 60, did they go up while I was not looking? Also, I had the strong impression that 3 sessions wiped out the entry fee, but don't remember the details. I agee with the 50 pct reduction before 7 but you have to watch them on this one. I plan to check closely. It may be small for the occasional user, but it adds up.[/QUOTE]
Well, I may be wrong here. I never really examined my bill that closely, and I was quoting what I seemed to remember. Actually, the only time I ever kept my bill was last Saturday, when I left at 7. And there I just wanted to check that they have charged me the R30 for early entry (... which they did).

As for 3 sessions: cannot tell either, because the most I have ever done at L'uomo was two sessions in one day. I just like to take advantage of the opportunity of the ultra-long foreplay in the boite, and then time seems to fly.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Euro100 thanks for your advices, may I ask you, if she agree to spend all the night with you, how much you pay her ? Something as 300 reais, an average price for Help girl or maybe 200 reais is enough ? Do you ask how much she wants or you just give her the money you think it is right ?

Usually on second or third day spent with her, you no more pay her, despite entrance in disco or the dinner at Porcao or you keep on pay her as the first night ?

Thanks ;)[/QUOTE]

Oh, sorry that I was not more clear on this point. I [i]always[/i] try to get them to my hotel for free. For me that's the whole point of this game and clearly my favorite part of hunting in Rio. It's not that I could not afford it; I am spending enough in Rio as it is, and sometimes my bill for drinks alone in L'uomo is R400 or so. And, yes, I pay for dinner and drinks and entrance to the clubs. And, yes, this can easily add up to R300 or R400. So I am not necessarily ahead financially when I play my game. But I want to feel that I have accomplished something more than P4P, that I have established at least a little bit of a connection.

Why would this work, you ask? Once I sessioned with her in the terma, she has already earned enough for the day (at least R150, I believe, go to the girl). Then she can afford to make an investment into getting me into a long-term relationship and give me sugar for free in my hotel. That allows her to see herself also more in the role of a regular girl and not a gdp, and I get WAY better loving this way ... as does she (at least, I hope!). Plus, when I go back to L'uomo the next day I make a point of only having a session with her and taking care of her while I am there. This makes it pleasant for both of us, and lucrative enough for her. (That's why the "not sexo, but amor" talk is important when I negotiate for her to come to my hotel.)

The first time I tried this was with the famous Ingrid, about five years ago. And it worked. After that I figured that if it works with Ingrid, who is the queen of L'uomo, then it works with everybody. If memory serves me right, I have tried this a total of 9 time now, and it worked 6 times. Twice the girl did not show up at my hotel as promised, and once the girl wanted money (I reported on this incident a couple of years back), and then I sent her home.

"Big deal!," you may say. "The girls that do this make a calculation, too, just like you do. And their calculation is to get you into longer relationships that may be more profitable in the long term." Yes, maybe true. But to some degree all interactions between two people, lovers or not, are like this. Or maybe, just maybe, these girls have just as much of a need as I do to get out of the P4P business for just some time, and to get treated like a real lover with real feelings and real needs. That's what I am hoping for.

Euro 100 (and your new member friend)...

Is Paola (straight, long black hair with a fringe, indian looking) still at L'uomo?

I had a great time with her in Spring but I was told in June she had retired?

[QUOTE=Euro100]Or maybe, just maybe, these girls have just as much of a need as I do to get out of the P4P business for just some time, and to get treated like a real lover with real feelings and real needs. That's what I am hoping for.[/QUOTE]I think you're onto something here, at least with some of the girls. Let's keep in mind that most of the local men wouldn't be caught dead with a gdp outside of a terma setting, since many of them have a wife or girlfriend; or even if they didn't they don't want people gossiping that they're boinking a gdp.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]I think you're onto something here, at least with some of the girls. Let's keep in mind that most of the local men wouldn't be caught dead with a gdp outside of a terma setting, since many of them have a wife or girlfriend; or even if they didn't they don't want people gossiping that they're boinking a gdp.[/QUOTE]Few Brazilian men could afford to go to top shelf termas. I asked my girl if her brothers or father knows she works at her terma. She said yes, but they don't know what goes on inside because they can't afford to go in. Plus she and her family lives in Bangu RJ 2 hours from Copa. She takes, a van to the bus stop, then to the metro, a total of 3 hours travel. At night she takes a cab.

With working 6 days a week, she loved the time we spent together. I helped her go from GDP to GFE. I think if you treat most of the girls special, they'll do the same to you. All SOME want is love.

Hi everyone here,

This is my first post, I can't get into this site very often. But I enjoy it each time I have the opportunity.

I would like to ask if you don't see a real 'risk' of falling in love with one these Brazilian goddess when you go out of the termas with them. The whole situation might be a theater but for sensitive people, as myself, I see difficult no to feel a crush after going for dinner, talking, sleeping, etc with a very pleasant beauty. Sometimes I have even difficulty of getting a girl out of my head if have had chemistry with her.

[QUOTE=July Gan]Euro 100 (and your new member friend)...

Is Paola (straight, long black hair with a fringe, indian looking) still at L'uomo?

I had a great time with her in Spring but I was told in June she had retired?[/QUOTE]
I don't know Paola, but I am pretty sure I saw a girl that fits this description. Retiring from this job is not easy for a lot of these girls.

[QUOTE=Phunluv]I think you're onto something here, at least with some of the girls. Let's keep in mind that most of the local men wouldn't be caught dead with a gdp outside of a terma setting, since many of them have a wife or girlfriend; or even if they didn't they don't want people gossiping that they're boinking a gdp.[/QUOTE]I think it's great fun also, but it's nothing new.

I've been taking out pros on normal dates from Colombia to Venezuela to Brasil for years and years.

Treat them with some TLC and taking them out as regular girls pays off in dividends for sure.

PS ... Once they get out of the PFP environment, and dress appropriately, they look like normal girls.

Not like they have GDP stamped on their foreheads.

[QUOTE=Euro100]2. NEVER give her real information about you (where you live, what your full name is, your phone number, your email). I know, many guys do this. But this is my one rule that I do not violate. [b]What happens in Rio STAYS IN RIO![/b][/QUOTE]Well, though I love your ideas on taking out the GDPs on normal dates, I have the opposite take on you your rule number 2.

I keep in touch with the girls and pick up where we left off when I return to their city and it only gets better and better.

Of course I visit Brasil constantly, I'm there about half the year, in and out, I like having various "amigas" available to hang with, without the GDP rushed feeling or payout. Ya get 'Muito mais amor e carinho' (much more love and affection)

Of course I avoid the barracudas who ask for money, ask me to send them money, etc. Weed them out immediately.

All depends on your situation back "home" really. If ya got someone back home to answer to, well of course, your rule nbr 2 holds.

[QUOTE=Euro100]... Addition: once I am ready to pop the question to go to my hotel, I always hasten to say not for "sexo", but for "amor". (Translation: I want a freebie - but my version sounds better). "Es muito bonita", "Gusto muito de ti", and phrases like that you should learn by heart, even if you know no Portuguese ...

[/b][/QUOTE]I agree 100 percent, stress the love :)

"Voce e muito linda (bonita)" , "GOSTO muito de voce"

Great advice!

[QUOTE=Ricker]I think it's great fun also, but it's nothing new.
I've been taking out pros on normal dates from Colombia to Venezuela to Brasil for years and years.
Treat them with some TLC and taking them out as regular girls pays off in dividends for sure.
PS ... Once they get out of the PFP environment, and dress appropriately, they look like normal girls.
Not like they have GDP stamped on their foreheads :)[/QUOTE]
I agree with most of you said.
Just a comment.

A gringo with a "XXX": will by the locals to be considered to be a...
1. White regular girl: Maybe not a puta:
2. Dark regular girl: Propably a puta.
3. White GP: Most certainly a puta.
4. Dark GP: 100% puta.

This specially goes for Rio. In the rest of Brazil the judging isn't that hard.

Enjoy your romatic dates with the GPs, but don't fool yourself that the locals can't tell her profession.

You don't need to have a very trained eye to tell which girls that are GPs. It's actually is "written" on their foreheads. Their bodylanguage, the way they dress, the way they look at people and the way they speaks tells it all.

I enjoy GPs very much, but I prefer dating regular girls. When I make an exception and date a GP (free sex is always welcome :D) I try not to care what the locals think. The local women knows that gringos are "supposed" to date GPs. The local men are just envying my catch.

My strategy might be easy because I date the GPs on Kice Suco and not Porcão or Marius.

Sup people.

I've got several questions to ask

To make a critical decision.

'where the fuck should I go?'

Options in consideration.

- Sao Paolo
- Rio
- BA
- DR
- Colombia

little background...

I live in Korea. never been to anywhere in south america

Planning on whats called 'Penis Trip' (Korean term..) with some of my friends..

may be 3.. possibly 4... and we will departure at the beginning of NOV.

i searched for a cheap flight today... and i found cheap one from here to Sao Paolo

other places i mentioned above. cost about 200~300USD more than sao paolo.

Trip is gonna be for 7 days.

budget is around 1500 USD per person excluding airfare.

Actions wanted by our crew...
- 3some (aggressive one. like the ones in porn)
- one sex party night. ( in a rented suite, 3 or 4 of us and 5~8 chicas with lots of alcohol and fun stuff)
- at least one short time session (1~2hours) per day.
- GFE, PSE (BBBJ is very important)
- Cheap TLN would be very strong pulling factor.
- YOUNG GIRL!!! ( not over 30)

so.. given the situations...

1. which place? to meet most of those actions?

2. flight fares from Sao Paolo to BA or RIO? ( 130 for RIO and 300 to BA are what i found from web search)

3. would we need a guide since none of us speak any spanish? (if so... how could this be arranged?)

4. any safe issue? against asian ppl?

5. do we have to worry about this new influenza thing while travelling south america?


I really need to make this trip worth something...

Please help me ppl!!

thank you

[QUOTE=Ricker]Well, though I love your ideas on taking out the GDPs on normal dates, I have the opposite take on you your rule number 2.

I keep in touch with the girls and pick up where we left off when I return to their city and it only gets better and better.

Of course I visit Brasil constantly, I'm there about half the year, in and out, I like having various "amigas" available to hang with, without the GDP rushed feeling or payout. Ya get 'Muito mais amor e carinho' (much more love and affection)

Of course I avoid the barracudas who ask for money, ask me to send them money, etc. Weed them out immediately.

All depends on your situation back "home" really. If ya got someone back home to answer to, well of course, your rule nbr 2 holds.[/QUOTE]I agree with you Ricker. There are GDP who can cause trouble, and they are tose who could get you out of trouble. So I keep in touch with good ones, and bring inexpensive gifts. When I leave Rio, I give my friends my food and household stuff. Why throw it out when other could use it. My main girl loves the the tall cans of Lysol and bath tube cleaner that I bring from the states to sterilize my apartment. So I will bring her 4 cans of each because they can't get it in Brazil. But if I get in a jam, I'm sure she'll be there for me. I was impress on how aggressive she was getting me a phone. She is 26 without kids, and she owns her own house. She shows me Rio de Janeiro state unlike I would by myself. And she loves Brazil and is not in a hurry to leave for the USA.

Euro100 thanks again.

My buddy dated many days a terma girl, he paid dinner, disco and so on, but many times he had to give her cash too and btw he is nice guy, young and behave with her as if she was his girlfriend too.

It all depends if she meets you just to have more cash, so then she almost neither care to go to clubs and so on or if she really likes you and want to have the feeling to have boyfriend.

With such girls as the sweety Ingrid, that earn much money, if she agree to meet outside terma, it is cause she likes you, so she is one that not really need more money as for example girls that do not earn so that much.

However there was a big difference when in january I was in terma and girls asked me how long I was stayed in Brazil and I answered 2 months between last time when I answered 10 days.
I could easily imagine their reaction if you say, I live in Rio, then she is more than happy to build, special friendship or relationship, with you.

Many times I stayed to Luomo till the end and when I walked out, I saw the girls in normal clothes going out of the shopping center there, most of them or almost all, look as normal girl, but I think that even a normal girl together gringo can easily looks like a GDP. It is more whom is together than which job she does.

And yes, so far as they are first of all human being, then GDP, behave with them as normal girls, can give you better chance.

And again as Bubba said in his guide, your chance to meet her outside terma go higher if you session with her 2 times as I believe most of mongers session only once with the girl, so go back to the same terma and take her second time, instead to take one of the many other girls, makes you special to her eyes and makes her to feel the special one.

Bottom line..... why in a world so big, we have terma only in Rio ? LOL :)

[QUOTE=Euro100]Germany has the FKK places. They are very attractive alternatives. There is a whole section in this forum on them, and they are actually cheaper than L'uomo. The occasional South American girl is there, but the majority are from Germany and Eastern Europe.

Also, a lot of Brazilian girls travel to Spain and in particular Portugal. But I have not mongered there.

London has the Lady Marmalade Parties (also a separate section in this forum). On my only visit (very enjoyable!!!) 4 out of 5 girls were from Brazil. But this is real group sex and may not be your thing.

The kind of connection you can make with the girl in a terma like L'uomo is, however, unrivaled anywhere in Europe.[/QUOTE]

If you're looking for sex in Europe, Germany is hard to beat as an option. If you're looking specifically for Brazilians, Spain is hard to beat. I used to live there, and outside most major cities you'll see clubs that are basically converted roadside motels. The lobby and reception become bars to meet and mix with the girls, and then when you're ready (and only when YOU are ready, because they have a nasty habit of pushing you into this) you can go to a room.

Club Riviera in Barcelona is one famous spot. I believe that they were raided and closed, but they should be open now. If so, it would be good as I've yet to find more optifucks than I did there.

It's not impossible to see a GDP outside of work in Europe-- I've done it myself, but only because I was a local who'd seen her many times before. I do agree that it is considerably more difficult, expensive, and rarer than anywhere in Latin America. Anyone interested in seriously pursuing Brazilian GDPs in Spain would of course be advised to inquire in that part of the forum.

How much does it cost in Rio for.

- TLN

- 1 hour session?

- 3some.

With girls with rating 8 9

And for those sevices. Should I go to terma? Or escort? Or any other source?

I've been looking in to different forums tooo much.

All of infos are mixing and confusing me right now.

I want simple price range for those in Rio

And if you know BA well enought.

Please let me know about BA too!

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Drepente]Hi everyone here,

This is my first post, I can't get into this site very often. But I enjoy it each time I have the opportunity.

I would like to ask if you don't see a real 'risk' of falling in love with one these Brazilian goddess when you go out of the termas with them. The whole situation might be a theater but for sensitive people, as myself, I see difficult no to feel a crush after going for dinner, talking, sleeping, etc with a very pleasant beauty. Sometimes I have even difficulty of getting a girl out of my head if have had chemistry with her.[/QUOTE]

I think I speak for quite a few people on this forum in saying that it is [i]extremely[/i] easy to fall in love with GDPs, particularly if you see her outside of work. It is undoubtedly a risk, which can be mitigated in at least 2 ways:

1. As Euro100 says, what happens in Rio stays in Rio. It's love, but it's more or less theater for the both of you. Remember this, and try to put up a mental block and barrier as you leave. And oh yes, make sure she can't track you down. He might tell you to throw away phone numbers but as of yet I don't make a habit of this.

2. You'll fall in love with one. And the plane ride home will be painful. And then you'll come back and forget about her when you fall in love with another. And then you'll leave, come back, and fall in love with a third. And then you'll leave, forget about her, come back, and fall in love with yet another. You probably see where I'm going with this.... :)

Other thoughts are welcome of course.

[QUOTE=Drepente]I would like to ask if you don't see a real 'risk' of falling in love with one these Brazilian goddess when you go out of the termas with them. The whole situation might be a theater but for sensitive people, as myself, I see difficult no to feel a crush after going for dinner, talking, sleeping, etc with a very pleasant beauty. Sometimes I have even difficulty of getting a girl out of my head if have had chemistry with her.[/QUOTE]

Definitely, this is a risk that I do not want to pretend is not there. I have come close several times and too close a few times, and I have become really attached. Because invariably I find that there is a beautiful human being with real feelings behind the front of the gdp. So, yes, I have suffered pretty bad sometimes on the flight back from Rio. But it's a price I am willing to pay. Let me quote the eminent poets Goo Goo Dolls (Iris): "you bleed just to know you're alive".

I'll be down 12-17--12-31-09 I have and apt rented at Copa for all but my last night. I have to be out of the apt 12-30-09 at noon and my flight leaves New Years eve at 10:45pm. I'm thinking I might meet someone who has a couch to loan for a night after I arrive however I'm also open to any ideas from the board. If someone has a link to a good map I could use one. It would be nice if someone had a map with all the places talked about on the board marked.

[QUOTE=Idwib]Sup people.
...
'where the fuck should I go?'
...
Options in consideration.
- Sao Paolo
- Rio
- BA
- DR
- Colombia
...
4. any safe issue? against asian ppl?
Please help me ppl!!
thank you[/QUOTE]
On my first trip to South America, I went on a 3-country sex tour. Here's some information I reported comparing Colombia, Brazil, and Argentina:
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=743174&postcount=855[/url]

I'm Asian and I didn't run into any racial issues in any of those countries. As for safety, just use common sense and avoid areas you are not familiar with or look like trouble (dark alleys, dark streets, bad neighborhoods).

It seems like everyone has been talking of only the good parts of seeing a terma girl outside of her job. There are some bad parts too that I have found out by doing this. I am the guy Luca was referring to. Luca, I appreciate the "young" comment but I am 38. The girl I see outside of the terma is 19.

I met this girl last January and I thought she was amazing. She had recently started working and didn't speak a word of english and I only spoke two or three words of portuguese. It was a match made in heaven.

The next time I saw her was in June and we had kept in touch in between by email using google translator. In June I was very happy to see her and of course have sex with her. Also, it was kind of a different adventure as I hung out at other places I would not normally go. We went to some other clubs with her GDP friends and the mall etc. While on my trip I still went to other termas. It wasn't all perfect though. I mentioned that I went to another terma with a friend. She was not happy about that. I guess she thought it might be competition or upset her income stream from me. I told her I didn't have sex there which was true. Anyway it was a pretty good adventure all in all even though a little bit of the shine about her had worn off in my eyes.

I still stayed in touch and came out again in September. This time I saw that she gained some weight and to tell you the truth, I was a little bored of having sex with her. (that's the danger of getting used to having a room full of 30 or more girls to choose from in the termas). Anyway I still hung out with her outside of work and in between going to other termas. I realize that I like her and I don't mean just sexually. Maybe it's the age thing. Maybe I just like her smile. Other times she gets on my nerves and can be childish or jealous.

I plan to see her again on my next trip but I can see that this is probably leading to nowhere and will end soon.

As for the money, I have realized what many smart men on this board have realized. Paying for a girl in a terma and then going home by yourself is a very cheap and hassle free way to have a lot of different girls. The GFE experience is really great while you are having sex but it becomes not that great when you are just hanging out and she starts taking up all the bad qualities of a real girlfriend. I'm sure it's a nice ego boost to say that you took a terma girl out and had sex for free but we all know there is no free pussy. You have to exchange food, drinks, more time etc. To get the "free" pussy. Even then it is still not free because they are angling for a bigger payoff down the road usually. My best advice is to pay them everytime you have sex because it seems to be cheaper that way. If you are not paying for sex they are usually looking to get paid in other ways eventually like presents, shopping trips or marriage.

Anyway, I am not saying you shouldn't do this. It can be a lot of fun and different than just going to the termas, but it can be a lot more expensive in terms of money, time, or drama/headaches. Also, while you are spending time with your terma gf, the other termas are filling up with hotter, younger talent every day!

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Gffinder,

Come here to Portugal, 50 % of the working girls are Brazilians. For them the entry into Portugal is easy, they speak the same language and have the same culture. In Lisbon there are at least 20 "Privados" and each one has minimum 2.3 Brazilians. In the night-spots like Elefante Branco of 100 girls at least 60 are from Brazil. Easy to meet outside, just take them out for dinner or a disco. They will love it to be treated as a normal GF.

Carlos Primeros

[QUOTE=Firecrew]I'll be down 12-17--12-31-09 I have and apt rented at Copa for all but my last night. I have to be out of the apt 12-30-09 at noon and my flight leaves New Years eve at 10:45pm. I'm thinking I might meet someone who has a couch to loan for a night after I arrive however I'm also open to any ideas from the board. If someone has a link to a good map I could use one. It would be nice if someone had a map with all the places talked about on the board marked.[/QUOTE]


I was going to sarcasticly say rent a hotel room before I found out that the louziest/ dirtiest hotels in Rio were charging at least $ 300 per night during the new year holidays. E.g. Savoy Othon, Ducasse, Martinique, etc.

Sadly with Rio winning both the world cup and the olympics, the residents of Rio went completely off their heads and are acting very cocky for a 3rd world jungle.

I don't like what I am seeing.

[QUOTE=Firecrew]I'll be down 12-17--12-31-09 I have and apt rented at Copa for all but my last night. I have to be out of the apt 12-30-09 at noon and my flight leaves New Years eve at 10:45pm. I'm thinking I might meet someone who has a couch to loan for a night after I arrive however I'm also open to any ideas from the board. If someone has a link to a good map I could use one. It would be nice if someone had a map with all the places talked about on the board marked.[/QUOTE]

Maybe you can use a short term motel for the last night? I am not sure how they price around new years eve.

For a map I like: [url]http://www.isaw-db.com/map_rdj.html[/url]

Junior

[QUOTE=Tiradentes]I was going to sarcasticly say rent a hotel room before I found out that the louziest/ dirtiest hotels in Rio were charging at least $ 300 per night during the new year holidays. E.g. Savoy Othon, Ducasse, Martinique, etc....[/QUOTE]

I thought too, that to spend the new years Eve in Rio, especially with hot weather, could be very cool and something new for me living in Europe so cold in december, but after I saw the prices, I decided it surely not worth it: same stuff at 3x higher price....too bad !

[QUOTE=Firecrew]If someone has a link to a good map I could use one. It would be nice if someone had a map with all the places talked about on the board marked.[/QUOTE]

Firecrew,

Sperto has assembled a map of places in Copa and Centro.

[post]875442[/post]

[QUOTE=Tiradentes]I was going to sarcasticly say rent a hotel room before I found out that the louziest/ dirtiest hotels in Rio were charging at least $ 300 per night during the new year holidays. E.g. Savoy Othon, Ducasse, Martinique, etc.[/QUOTE]

New Year is an expensive time with big parties and popular with Brasilians, not just cariocas and foreigners.

You can get much cheaper than USD$300, though I'd suggest you hurry.

[url="http://www.ibishotel.com/gb/reservation/multirates.jshtml"]This place[/url], at USD$150 on New Year's Eve just now, has a good standard and is fairly girl friendly (Ibis rent by the room, not the number of people - I've never had any problem in the similar Ibis down the road that is now full, although I know someone who had some hassle.) But there again it's in [b]Centro[/b] - which is great if you're experienced and know the city centre (knock shops are walking distance, though not as close as with the other Ibis) and experienced at getting from there to Copa (this Ibis is easy by bus, a few mins walk for metro). Here's [url="http://www.riosnicehotel.com.br/tarifas.htm"] another main Centro (Lapa side) hotel[/url] you could try. [url="http://www.riospresidentehotel.com.br/index.htm"]Presidente[/url] is also offering a good rate just now for 31st Dec - R227 - probably about USD$132. It's close to cheap Rua Carioca monger holes, the Metro, and Lapa/Centro. But (like the more central of the two Ibis and Formule) it's in Tiradentes, which would give a pretty run-down impression of Rio to any newcomer.[i] (Haven't stayed there, so no idea what they think of you hangin' with yo' ho' in the reception or entertainin' someone who looks like yo ho even if she is non-GDP - see Sperto's previous post lol and add, 'If XXX is a fraction of your age/looks, they will think she's a ho whether she is or not.' And if you have little negligible public rapport and rapid interaction, yes, they'll think she's a ho.)[/i]

I haven't decided whether I'm in Rio over New Year yet. If I am, I'll get my usual Copa apartment if it's available and my landlady isn't having a 'market surge moment.' If not I'll probably book somewhere in North Centro when I arrive (these places are sh*t cheap at any time - but most punters would baulk at them - most can not be booked online).

I'd (personally) advise any first timers to stay in [b]Copa[/b] or [b]Ipanema[/b] until they know their way around this huge city. It's not that Centro is unmanageable to an experienced traveller. Just that the beach party areas and the almost Disneyland atmosphere of mongering in Copa/Ipanema is something you would not want to miss. New Year is also pretty big on parties. I found my first Copa beach party a bit claustrophobic. Good preparation for Carnaval though (which makes organising a mere World Olympics look a bit of a doddle. ;))

[QUOTE=Christopherd]New Year is an expensive time with big parties and popular with Brasilians, not just cariocas and foreigners.

You can get much cheaper than USD$300, though I'd suggest you hurry.


;))[/QUOTE]


I respectuffly disagree. For the 2007 reveillon, I booked a hotel room in Windsor Plaza Copacabana Hotel (princessa isabel) and round trip airfare from the US for under 3000 dollars. I believe I stayed about 10 days. I got there before christmas and left two days after new year. I booked my flight in early December of that year.

Checking expedia.com., the same trip is costing today $5850. That's double the price what I paid before.

Cariocas are asking for first world countries prices for a 3rd world services.

I would advise anyone NOT get a hotel room in Centro for NYE, unless you know for a fact that the metro will run all night. You can absolutely forget betting a cab in Copa or Ipanema on NYE, its just not happening (I found this out the hard way). The buses are jammed packed, sometimes you cant get even get on, there are so many people! So unless that metro is going to run all night long, forget about getting a hotel in centro.

[QUOTE=Bravo]I would advise anyone NOT get a hotel room in Centro for NYE, unless you know for a fact that the metro will run all night. The buses are jammed packed, sometimes you cant get even get on, there are so many people![/QUOTE]

I have no problem with crowded buses personally. But you are right, you are taking your life in your hands a bit if you want to do New Year from Centro lol. I have no idea about airfares from the US. From Europe or Australia I expect them to be expensive, but you are paying for the party. I'm looking multi-trip so might come in from B.Aires anyway. I'm sure people considering it are checking fares and hotels themselves and making their own minds up. I was just quoting a few sample prices in case it helped anyone. I don't mind paying airfares but I never pay a lot for hotels and never book anything till I get where I'm going. I know my way doesn't suit most people, so I'm sure there's plenty of room for more mainstream advice. :)

Re Tiradentes [quote]I respectuffly disagree.[/quote]
Disagree with what?? I just quoted some available hotel prices off the Web (in response to a hotels post). You agree New Year is expensive.

[QUOTE=Bravo]I would advise anyone NOT get a hotel room in Centro for NYE, unless you know for a fact that the metro will run all night. You can absolutely forget betting a cab in Copa or Ipanema on NYE, its just not happening (I found this out the hard way). The buses are jammed packed, sometimes you cant get even get on, there are so many people! So unless that metro is going to run all night long, forget about getting a hotel in centro.[/QUOTE]

The metro is running ok but the queue is going to be five blocks long.
Take it from my experience when I was staying at Flamengo.

That's why I prefer Fortaleza. They have a similar event on Praia Iracema. I park my car 4-5 blocks away and try to leave late from there.

[QUOTE=Abzsafado]What difference is there really in the end product if a girl sticks her tongue up your ass or does a bit of ATM, the shit ends up in the same place.
[/QUOTE]Blowback during end-of-session DFK. It will get you every time.

If this keeps up they may revoke Rio's winning bid for the 2016 Olympic Games.

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/10/17/brazil.drug.violence/index.html[/url]

This may be deemed an act of war between drug gangs and police. In a country like Brazil that had a very recent "junta" past, such violence will give birth to a "shadow" police squad to control the violence. I believe such crime will generate a right-wing government in the next presidency that will support a war on Rio gangs to protect tourism.

2 hrs 23 mins ago

"RIO DE JANEIRO – Drug traffickers shot down a police helicopter during a gunbattle between rival gangs Saturday, killing two officers and injuring four in a burst of violence just two weeks after the city was chosen to host the 2016 Olympic Games."

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]...they may revoke Rio's winning bid for the 2016 Olympic Games...[/QUOTE]

Are you sure it is possible to revocate ? Do they already did in the history of Olympic Games ?

I am just curious, I am only asking.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]If this keeps up they may revoke Rio's winning bid for the 2016 Olympic Games.

[url]http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/10/17/brazil.drug.violence/index.html[/url][/QUOTE]

I don't think so. This kind of thing happens frequently in Rio. It is also in the Northern part. Far away from where most tourists will be staying. It is just being sensationalized by the media. What's new.

[QUOTE=BH Bound]I don't think so. This kind of thing happens frequently in Rio. It is also in the Northern part. Far away from where most tourists will be staying. It is just being sensationalized by the media. What's new.[/QUOTE]I disagree with you here. Granted, while yesterday's main action took place in the Norte, there was what was described on the news as "an incursion" into a Zona Sul favela.

A few months ago, I was hanging out on Rua Almirante Goncalves and saw these helicopters circling that little favela directly up the street. Next thing I know, POW POW POW POW. These cops start blasting into the favela. Who knows if they got their mark, but it was a hell of a show and drew a decent size crowd on the street.

Just yesterday there was a commotion just across from Amerioca Tours. Turns out these 2 security guards spotted a guy they had been looking for. The ID'd him as the guy who had been breaking into cars on that street recently. They proceeded to beat the fuck out of him with a wooden stool and billy club, which caused quite the commotion on the street. Almost on que, as soon as the guards got their pound of flesh and walked away, the clouds opened up and it started pouring on this poor sap. It was quite a sight as he laid motionless on his back getting rained on. The gathered crowd just walked away and about 10 minutes later, so did he. After a while we continued on our scheduled trip to L'uomo, which sucked by the way. Many more men than women, and the ones that were working (aside from the always popular Ingrid and Diane) were either sleeping on the couch or just plain fugly. Sometimes Rio gets like this. Shitty weather every day, violence and ugly girls. But I know in a week the situation could be reversed and it's a paradise again. And that's the beauty of Rio for me.- you never know which one you'll get when you walk off the plane. One minute you're on the most beautiful beach in the world and in the arms of a model, next moment you're watching a guy pour rubbing alcohol over his head and light a match.

As for the Olympics, it's not the violence they have to worry about, it's the weather. They've decided to hold the summer Olympics in the friggin' winter. Good luck with that beach vollyball.

Has anyone been to NumberOne, a new place, I think, downtown at Rua da Quitanda 74, not far from 81? The lady at the door said there are five floors with two boates. Thirty reis to get in.

By the way the metro runs all night on Newyears, but you need special prepaid tickets available at a separate ticket window in the Carioca station during the preceding weeks.

[QUOTE=Idwib]Sup people.

I've got several questions to ask

To make a critical decision.

'where the fuck should I go?'

Options in consideration.

- Sao Paolo
- Rio
- BA
- DR
- Colombia

little background...

I live in Korea. never been to anywhere in south america

Planning on whats called 'Penis Trip' (Korean term..) with some of my friends..

may be 3.. possibly 4... and we will departure at the beginning of NOV.

i searched for a cheap flight today... and i found cheap one from here to Sao Paolo

other places i mentioned above. cost about 200~300USD more than sao paolo.

Trip is gonna be for 7 days.

budget is around 1500 USD per person excluding airfare.

Actions wanted by our crew...
- 3some (aggressive one. like the ones in porn)
- one sex party night. ( in a rented suite, 3 or 4 of us and 5~8 chicas with lots of alcohol and fun stuff)
- at least one short time session (1~2hours) per day.
- GFE, PSE (BBBJ is very important)
- Cheap TLN would be very strong pulling factor.
- YOUNG GIRL!!! ( not over 30)

so.. given the situations...

1. which place? to meet most of those actions?

2. flight fares from Sao Paolo to BA or RIO? ( 130 for RIO and 300 to BA are what i found from web search)

3. would we need a guide since none of us speak any spanish? (if so... how could this be arranged?)

4. any safe issue? against asian ppl?

5. do we have to worry about this new influenza thing while travelling south america?


I really need to make this trip worth something...

Please help me ppl!!

thank you[/QUOTE]

With your budget, requirements, and inexperience in Brazil, I have one word for you.......RIO!

[QUOTE=Puta Playa]Blowback during end-of-session DFK. It will get you every time.[/QUOTE]

Excuse my lack of maturity here, but that's just SICK!!

[QUOTE=Chezz]I disagree with you here. Granted, while yesterday's main action took place in the Norte, there was what was described on the news as "an incursion" into a Zona Sul favela.

A few months ago, I was hanging out on Rua Almirante Goncalves and saw these helicopters circling that little favela directly up the street. Next thing I know, POW POW POW POW. These cops start blasting into the favela. Who knows if they got their mark, but it was a hell of a show and drew a decent size crowd on the street.

Just yesterday there was a commotion just across from Amerioca Tours. Turns out these 2 security guards spotted a guy they had been looking for. The ID'd him as the guy who had been breaking into cars on that street recently. They proceeded to beat the fuck out of him with a wooden stool and billy club, which caused quite the commotion on the street. Almost on que, as soon as the guards got their pound of flesh and walked away, the clouds opened up and it started pouring on this poor sap. It was quite a sight as he laid motionless on his back getting rained on. The gathered crowd just walked away and about 10 minutes later, so did he. After a while we continued on our scheduled trip to L'uomo, which sucked by the way. Many more men than women, and the ones that were working (aside from the always popular Ingrid and Diane) were either sleeping on the couch or just plain fugly. Sometimes Rio gets like this. Shitty weather every day, violence and ugly girls. But I know in a week the situation could be reversed and it's a paradise again. And that's the beauty of Rio for me.- you never know which one you'll get when you walk off the plane. One minute you're on the most beautiful beach in the world and in the arms of a model, next moment you're watching a guy pour rubbing alcohol over his head and light a match.

As for the Olympics, it's not the violence they have to worry about, it's the weather. They've decided to hold the summer Olympics in the friggin' winter. Good luck with that beach vollyball.[/QUOTE]I was there in May. I had an apartment at Copacabana Blvd and Rua Miguel Lemos, I first heard the helicopter then the gun fire. I've had experience with helicopters and gunfire. It was the morning the Rio city water was cut-off during my shower. The combat action was loud and clear.

[QUOTE=Chezz]As for the Olympics, it's not the violence they have to worry about, it's the weather. They've decided to hold the summer Olympics in the friggin' winter. Good luck with that beach vollyball.[/QUOTE]
I would have said you had a good point if they would not have already pulled it off in Sydney in 2000.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I would have said you had a good point if they would not have already pulled it off in Sydney in 2000.[/QUOTE]

The 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney was held from September 15 through October 1, not exactly winter.

[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Nope! Brazil has already bribed their way to get the olympics so there is nothing that can change it now.

It already has been bought and sold.[/QUOTE]SPB,

You crack me up. So - again - please provide your evidence of bribes and wrongdoing..

[QUOTE=Lukasek]Are you sure it is possible to revocate ? Do they already did in the history of Olympic Games ?

I am just curious, I am only asking.[/QUOTE]Stop this silly talk about revoking the Olympics. They have 7 years to put things in place. Should we give them a chance? They will do a major housecleaning and there will be more stories like this. They will shut down the soccer stadium next year for two years and will redevelop all around it during the stadium refurishment. If you are upset that Rio will change drastically - that's one thing. But if you do think the Brazilian gov't can pull off hosting the games that is another.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]I would have said you had a good point if they would not have already pulled it off in Sydney in 2000.[/QUOTE]Good point. But I was here for the entire summer Pan American Games a couple of years ago. And it was rainy the whole time. Cold and rainy. I remember actually having to buy a jacket because I never pack one for a Rio trip. The closing ceremonies were particularly brutal -- as miserable weather as I've experienced anytime in the past in Rio. So bad that I just decided not to go and still have my tickets for them (the closing ceremonies that is).

As an aside, I really doubt crime or security will be much of an issue at the Olympics. I remember during the Pan Am Games the streets seeming safer than at any other time.

[QUOTE=Chezz]As for the Olympics, it's not the violence they have to worry about, it's the weather. They've decided to hold the summer Olympics in the friggin' winter. Good luck with that beach vollyball.[/QUOTE]

Rio's Olympics will be held from August 5 through August 21, 2016. Average temperature in August is 21, average precipitation is 46mm. By comparison, Chicago summer temperature averages 21.1 with average precipitation 93mm.

[QUOTE=Sunset]Has anyone been to NumberOne, a new place, I think, downtown at Rua da Quitanda 74, not far from 81? The lady at the door said there are five floors with two boates. Thirty reis to get in.[/QUOTE]

If it's a mere R$30 to get in you could have TOFTT, checked it out, and reported your findings here on the board.

[QUOTE=Chezz]
As an aside, I really doubt crime or security will be much of an issue at the Olympics. I remember during the Pan Am Games the streets seeming safer than at any other time.[/QUOTE]

Indeed it was. I was there as well, and my guess was that there were 2 factors driving this:

1. A series of raids against favelas beforehand
2. At least in Copacabana, you couldn't walk more than one block without running into a uniformed police officer armed with an assault rifle

It seemed like such a good way to keep order. Not the friendliest way, but certainly an effective one.

[QUOTE=Saopaulob]Prove they don't, Do you also need evidience wallstreet paid for scumbag obama presidentcy? Do you also evidence bush is a war criminal. Do you also need evidence that corporate run the white house. Do you also need evidence wallstreet and corporate amercia are responsible for the USA recession.[/QUOTE]The point being that on some of your examples evidence can be presented to support the assertions. You dismiss all the hard work and vision that the government and committee did to land the games. And claimed they were awarded the games simply because they paid more in bribes than other countries were willing to pay. Evidence please.

I live in Rio, and I can tell you that violence is more midiadic than a real unsafe feeling spreading all around the city, like media seems to show.

I had never any kind of security problem, and never saw any act of violence in first hand. Only mediated. For the average tourist foreigner, the city is very safe if you took some basic urban security measures, like avoid to be on the streets alone at night, avoid favelas, use taxis, etc.

Be rasoable and you will be fine, and have a lot of fun, don't worry.

Welcome,

Brazil Rio

[QUOTE=Gfe Finder]Indeed it was. I was there as well, and my guess was that there were 2 factors driving this:

1. A series of raids against favelas beforehand
2. At least in Copacabana, you couldn't walk more than one block without running into a uniformed police officer armed with an assault rifle

It seemed like such a good way to keep order. Not the friendliest way, but certainly an effective one.[/QUOTE]

It was like that when I was there in July. Cops on every corner. Not necessarily assault rifles, but pistols. They went away at night. It felt like Disneyland and with GDP's.

It could be interesting to know, how many members here had safety problems.

I start, I dress low profile, never drunk ( unless couple of beers), walking alone in the night sometimes but always open eyes and I was in Rio 3 times for total 7 weeks and no one problem, but still I do not know if I was lucky or if it is safer than it appears from the media.

Anybody else who wants to share his experience about safety is more than wellcome.

[QUOTE=Lukasek]It could be interesting to know, how many members here had safety problems.

I start, I dress low profile, never drunk (unless couple of beers), walking alone in the night sometimes but always open eyes and I was in Rio 3 times for total 7 weeks [/QUOTE]

Hey Lukas,

Your description sounds just like me. Low profile dressed, never drunk etc. I was in Rio 3 times for a total of 6 weeks. BUT I was robbed.
It happened one block away from Help, the time was around 1.30 am and I was walking alone. All of a sudden 3-4 kids, age about 14 yo, surprises me and before I knew it they were searching my pockets. One of them showed some kind of knife, something like a kitchen knife. Everything happened very fast and they took a small amount of cash, only like 20 R$. Small money but it wasn't a nice experience being robbed. I never felt very scared though, those kids didn't feel too threatening. I guess it would have been much worse to be robbed in an abandoned alley with a knife to the throat...

glad you did not get hurt, but the 4 blocks surrounding helpee are bandito central after 12, i take a cab one block from helpee to rue xavier da silveira.

[quote=torinofreak]it happened one block away from help, the time was around 1.30 am and i was walking alone. all of a sudden 3-4 kids, age about 14 yo, surprises me and before i knew it they were searching my pockets. one of them showed some kind of knife, something like a kitchen knife.[/quote]

I have been in the streets around HELP and beyond at all times of the night and early morning, and never have had any issues. You just gotta be street smart and have a look that these thugs know that you are not gonna play their games.

Now, I am not recommending that every gringo do this, but I am saying, dont be to afraid, have fun, and just be smart.

Chris H

[quote=buscemi]glad you did not get hurt, but the 4 blocks surrounding helpee are bandito central after 12, i take a cab one block from helpee to rue xavier da silveira.[/quote]1 block from help a cab, i am suprised that any cab driver would take you. i have just returned from my 4th trip this year, spent just over 3 weeks in rio, walked around all hours off the day and night in zone zul and didn't feel one bit threatened. i would be more worried about getting robbed by police stoping a taxi late at night, i always have around 2 or 3 thousand reals on me too. some guys on this board are just way too paronoid. being paranoid will get you robbed. if you fear the streets off rio that much it is best that you monger else where, so you feel comfortable at all times.

Wait and see what happens to Copa once Help closes!! All of copa will be a "target rich enviorment" for the banditos, not just that 4 block radius!! Drunken gringos walking up and down the strip, looking for pussy? It will be like ringing a dinner bell for the lions!!

[QUOTE=Bravo]Wait and see what happens to Copa once Help closes! All of copa will be a "target rich enviorment" for the banditos, not just that 4 block radius! Drunken gringos walking up and down the strip, looking for pussy? It will be like ringing a dinner bell for the lions! [/QUOTE]when help closes it will be the best thing that happened to copa. It just gets worse and worse in there as time goes on. Took one girl from there, she quoted 400r we settled on 300r tln multiple pops. Got back to the apartment and she demanded money upfront. I showed her the money and explained in the morning when she leaves it is there for her. She said no upfront or no sex. I said fine fuck off then. She then threatened and wanted cab money and re entry money for help. I told her to fuck off and removed her from the apartment. She was the only garota who I hadn't seen in there for the past 3 years. Help is a shithole that has become infested with hoes that can't make money elsewhere. Termas are the only option in Rio.

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz]1 block from help a cab, I am suprised that any cab driver would take you. I have just returned from my 4th trip this year, spent just over 3 weeks in Rio, walked around all hours off the day and night in zone zul and didn't feel one bit threatened. I would be more worried about getting robbed by police stoping a taxi late at night, I always have around 2 or 3 thousand reals on me too. Some guys on this board are just way too paronoid. Being paranoid will get you robbed. If you fear the streets off Rio that much it is best that you monger else where, so you feel comfortable at all times.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for getting the truth out there!

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz] I always have around 2 or 3 thousand reals on me too. Some guys on this board are just way too paronoid. Being paranoid will get you robbed. If you fear the streets off Rio that much it is best that you monger else where,[/QUOTE]
Walking around at all times of day and night, all over Rio with 2-3 thousand reis in cash doesn't show confidence, but foolhardy!!!!! Not being paranoid, but common sense has to play a roll at some point. Just my opinion.

Ryjer

[QUOTE=JohnnyBraz] I would be more worried about getting robbed by police stoping a taxi late at night, I always have around 2 or 3 thousand reals on me too. [/QUOTE]I am curious about a few things: (a) why do you carry so much money with you?; (b) how do you carry it (e.g. do you keep your money in a money belt or in separate pockets or all in one pocket?); and (c) have you ever been robbed by the police or anyone else while carrying so much money?

JohnnyBraz is genuinely an extremely hard nut, judging by his past posts. His style is not one to be copied by others even if it works for him.

Iraq or even Afghanistan is safer than Rio.

I would think twice before venturing to that jungle....


Read 4 urself: (Warning- Disturbing pictures)

[url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1221898/Just-day-Rio-Residents-stroll-past-mans-body-dumped-supermarket-trolley-death-toll-reaches-25.html[/url]

[QUOTE=The Watcher]I am curious about a few things: (a) why do you carry so much money with you?; (b) how do you carry it (e.g. do you keep your money in a money belt or in separate pockets or all in one pocket?); and (c) have you ever been robbed by the police or anyone else while carrying so much money?[/QUOTE]Nice catch phrase, "Robbed by the police," I've seen a Centro street churrascaria vendor beat down by the Rio cops for no apparent reason. I can't imagine that a gringo would fare any better when encountering cops who want money.

JohnnyB wears Armani and Boss clothes around Rio. He's safe because nobody wants to put a knife or bullet hole or blood stain in the clothes. If they did mug him, they'd forget the money and take the clothes.

Some people here seem to think that 2 or 3 thousand reals is alot off money here. Well if you hit a terma it can easily set you back over 1000r. If you hit vips motel with drinks and food for 8 to 10 hours it always runs around 1000r without the cost off girls. And I like to do duplas in termas and have 2 or 3 women when I hit vips. What I can't understand is why people here are afraid to walk around zone zul. If you can't be yourself in a place. Don't go there. Most days I hit termas. Around once per week I hit vips. And I do stuff on the spare off the moment. I don't see the point in heading back to the apartment everytime I decide to do something to get money. And I don't use debit or credit cards in Rio except for citi bank atm machines.

[blue]Greetings everyone,

In recognition of his many great contributions to the Forum, I have given Quincas his own thread titled "[b]Quincas in Brazil[/b]".

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3095[/url]

Those of you who wish to join him in the discussions in his new thread are welcome to do so.

I've also moved all of his previous "contributions" to this new thread, creating a sort of "[i]The Collected Works of Quincasl"[/i]" for those of you who are interested.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]