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Hi there,

Is any good apartment or Hotel GP Friently in RJ? I planning to go for about 2 weeks April or May.

Thanks,

Demetris

[QUOTE=Christopherd; 1503740]Seriously, I'd plan differently. Do one or the other. SP is the biggest city in the Southern Hemisphere. Rio is also a big city fractured into diferent areas. And Brazil itself is a big culture shock. To do the two cities in ten days you would need to have a very exact timetable plus back-up plans in case you hit delays (which are a constant SP problem and common enough in RJ especially if it rains. If you are only going to dip your toes, you might want to get someone to buddy you in SP and possibly RJ. Possible. Five in each because, even if there's 'more to do' in RJ, it will take you longer to do what you do in SP.

A couple of other points as SP and RJ are incredibly different. The tourist spots in RJ are straightforward "sights" (Cristovao, Sugar Loaf, Botanics) and all you have to do is plan how to get them without wasting lots of time. And of course RJ has a beach (32 beaches to be more exact). In SP, the distances are bigger, and the best tourist attractions (IMO) are things like the galleries or the ambience of the different city neighbourhoods (eg Madalena, Paulistana, Liberdade). It's only a short trip between the two, but the trip from the airport in SP can take longer than the flight. Your essentials for RJ are Bubba's guide, Sperto's lists, and a map and a plan. Your essentials for SP are working out how to get to the monger spots of your choice and the tourist spots of your choice (get the wrong turning and half a day or more can be wasted).

But unless you are very determined to do both, stick to one. Five days is not long enough to get much of a taste. And even everything aside I'd have to say do RJ for a first Brazil visit as it is definitely simpler than SP.[/QUOTE]Many Thanks Chris & Albert.

[QUOTE=curacaoman; 1503546]Hi all,

First time travel to Brazil. My primary purpose of the trip is visit the tourists spots and get laid. Planning to visit Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro.

My stay is 10 days is total. How would you guys divide the days? 5 5 or 4 days SP. 6 days RIO?

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you live in the US, most of the airlines will let you fly into one city and return from the other so all you need is one internal flight between Rio & Sao Paulo. But 10 days is not long enough to explore both cities, IMHO.

There is Princess Promenade Hotel in Rua Xavier the Silveira.

Consider a room in my apartment. PM me to get details.

[QUOTE=Easyrider; 1504139]Hi there,

Is any good apartment or Hotel GP Friently in RJ? I planning to go for about 2 weeks April or May.

Thanks,

Demetris[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]Consider a room in my apartment. PM me to get details.[/QUOTE]
BS, as our inside man in Rio, do you notice the lack of mongers tourists or can you profit be the new record of normal tourists record in Rio?
What's your expectations of Copa do Mundo when it comes to rental?

Anybody ever see this kind of behavior in a terma?

[url]http://nesn.com/2013/12/mass-fan-brawl-halts-brazilian-soccer-game-leaves-three-seriously-injured-video/[/url]

I say shut down the football and leave the termas open!

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1505900]Anybody ever see this kind of behavior in a terma?

[url]http://nesn.com/2013/12/mass-fan-brawl-halts-brazilian-soccer-game-leaves-three-seriously-injured-video/[/url]

I say shut down the football and leave the termas open![/QUOTE]Ha! I hear you but the termas are a thorn in their public image despite many of the government officials, politicians, mid to high level Policias, doctors, judges, municipal clerks and lawyers frequent them-especially 4 x 4! (I have met a few myself!)

The hypocrisy with which they operate will backfire spectacularly I feel when the world witness the shambles that is current day Brazil.

A GDP from MC told me via email today that it will stay open as they are upping the bribes.

I'm not so sure it will hold up this time.

Outcalls will boom and the streets, clubs, bars, expos, restaurants etc will be crawling with gdps-watch. I personally have spoken to many about the upcoming scenario and for them its (more) business as usual.

Here is all that remains of the Copa Linda Motel. It had been closed for a year or so. It will be replaced by another hotel. This may be part of the gentrification of Copacabana, but is more likely just a different business model for the property. There are numerous small hotels under construction throughout Copacabana, reflecting greater emphasis on the pure tourism market.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1506343]Here is all that remains of the Copa Linda Motel. It had been closed for a year or so. It will be replaced by another hotel. This may be part of the gentrification of Copacabana, but is more likely just a different business model for the property. There are numerous small hotels under construction throughout Copacabana, reflecting greater emphasis on the pure tourism market.[/QUOTE]
That was absolutely no loss at all. A overpriced really shitty motel.
I get nightmares just remembering the night I spent there. With AC turned on it was freezing cold. Without AC it was sweaty as hell. Gliding around on top of a plastic mattress was not a nice experience.
Rio has lots of good value motels. The worst ones are/were Copa Linda and Vanity (very overpriced) in Copacabana.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1506403]That was absolutely no loss at all. A overpriced really shitty motel.

I get nightmares just remembering the night I spent there. With AC turned on it was freezing cold. Without AC it was sweaty as hell. Gliding around on top of a plastic mattress was not a nice experience.

Rio has lots of good value motels. The worst ones are / were Copa Linda and Vanity (very overpriced) in Copacabana.[/QUOTE]Vanity should be demolished as well. It was convenient for a quickie from Help or Terraco Atlântico. But with those attractions gone, Vanity is not convenient to anything.

Copa Linda was a favorite of GDPs because they earned the highest rebate there.

I have many fond Vanity memories. One time I was walking the beach in Copa around 7:00 AM when I came upon a girl who obviously had been up all night. We started talking and told her that I would love to spend time with her but had no money on me and no way of getting any. I told her if the manager at Vanity would agree, we could go there and I would bring her some money later. Off we went. I told the manager I had absolutely nothing on me. No ID, no credit cards and no cash but would be back before noon to pay the room and the girl. Without hesitation he handed me a room key. Had a great time with the girl and made it back before noon to make good on my promises. The fact that it reminded me of the seedy motel in the movie Big never bothered me. What got to me was how many gay couples I saw scampering about (not that there is anything wrong with being gay or even scampering. GLAAD members).

Hello,

I just booked my trip to Rio and Sao Paulo during the world cup. But I can't find an hotel Under 200USD anymore on the websites. Where can I find an small place? Off course I would have to be able to bring girls in my room.

If anyone interested to share next summer. I'm a 35 year old man, good looking, speak English French and little Portuguese.

Thank you

I saw a preview for this program recently and thought some might be interested. The upcoming season will include women from Brazil, Colombia, Russia, Ukraine, and the Philippines:

[url]http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tlc-goes-international-90-day-665840[/url]

[QUOTE=MichaelSchoefs; 1513521]Hello,

I just booked my trip to Rio and Sao Paulo during the world cup. But I can't find an hotel Under 200USD anymore on the websites. Where can I find an small place? Off course I would have to be able to bring girls in my room.[/QUOTE]Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1518395]Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Renting vacation apartments will be your best bet. I have been to Rio twice and both times have used vacation apartments. Both were girl friendly.

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1518395]Hotel prices are high just now anyway, and they will not be shy about raising them for the World Cup. But if you are not too concerned about quality, places in Centro are still being offered in June at around $130 a night. Some of these are 'motels' which is Brasilian-speak for an adults-only hotel for sexual encounters (not all of these are with hookers, the women you see there may mostly be having discreet affairs). But these places are in very cheap areas. As long as you are careful, they are safe enough, but the streets may be dirty and not so well lit. Good luck.[/QUOTE]To Christpherd

I don't know that you want to stay near Centro this is a bad area I stay at Libertdade area near Japan town you can find some clean Hostel there for around 70 USD a night in july , many massage place and good looking Japanese mix girl around the area.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1518790]To Christpherd

I don't know that you want to stay near Centro this is a bad area I stay at Libertdade area near Japan town you can find some clean Hostel there for around 70 USD a night in July, many massage place and good looking Japanese mix girl around the area.[/QUOTE]Only problem is that Liberdade is in Sao Paulo and they are talking about Rio.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1518817]Only problem is that Liberdade is in Sao Paulo and they are talking about Rio.[/QUOTE]Yes Mr Enternational.

I not sure he mean RIO both city have a Centro area and Zone centro in Sao Paulo, trying to get a decent hotel in RIO for under 100 USD during world cup is tough most hotel is book solid already or they are just holding the room and rise the price.

Fast Eddie 48

I was in Rio during June, July, and part of August last year during the soccer torunament, and there were many demonstrations and so forth. Streets were closed off, buss. were closed, and ofcourse some idiots began to rob and destroy properties while others were peacefully protesting for a valid cause. There has been very little talk about how more of these actions can take place again during the World Cup games. That being said, I have a hunch more planned, and detailed protests are being planned in the upcomming months. It even has me thinking and hesitant on buying a ticket for a visit during the games. Might just play it safe, and go after the games.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1521015]I was in Rio during June, July, and part of August last year during the soccer torunament, and there were many demonstrations and so forth. Streets were closed off, buss. were closed, and ofcourse some idiots began to rob and destroy properties while others were peacefully protesting for a valid cause. There has been very little talk about how more of these actions can take place again during the World Cup games. That being said, I have a hunch more planned, and detailed protests are being planned in the upcomming months. It even has me thinking and hesitant on buying a ticket for a visit during the games. Might just play it safe, and go after the games.[/QUOTE]My friends who are students said thats its going to kick off big time in every city where games are staged-and so it should!

Fuck the Brazilian government, Rousseff, Dilma and every other thief and criminal. Especially as the media of the world will be there so its perfect time to expose Brazil's dictatorship-like rulers. It is also election year so its all going to backfire spectacularly on Brazil. I want to see changes so hopefully this helps somehow.

Also with internet technology readily available to everyone, the media can't censor street activities or blow smoke-screens and invalidate protestors as violent thugs-these are everyday people from all walks of life tired of the corruption and missappropriation of public funds.

I also predict a property crash of gigantic proportions as the economy starts to struglle in the wake of both these events as right now parts of Rio have the priciest real estate in South America (Leblon).

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1521145]I also predict a property crash of gigantic proportions as the economy starts to struglle in the wake of both these events as right now parts of Rio have the priciest real estate in South America (Leblon).[/QUOTE]I agree 100% Once the games are over, property value will fall like panties on prom night!

Well this was timely. I saw this article today. It gives a wholly positive spin on Brazil. I actually find the comments from the readers that follow the article to be far more interesting (and telling) as many of them give a fuller picture:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0.id=maing-grid7[/url]

I guess if you can have a good income in Brazil and a solid middle-class lifestyle, then life can be pretty good. And if not, then it can suck. But, how does that make Brazil any different than any other place on earth?

Let's try this again:

[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/28/what-brazil-can-teach-the_0_n_4662253.html?&icid=maing-grid7[/url]

Rio bus fare increasing to $R3 Feb 8, (a Friday,) per Oglobo. This is a 25 cent increase. All the nation wide protests in June were for a 10 cent increase. I expect to see a new round of protests and street clashes in Rio soon. Why a Friday? Maybe to let everyone protest over the weekend?

[url]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/passagem-de-onibus-vai-subir-para-3-em-8-de-fevereiro-11445621[/url]

[QUOTE=Java Man;1525766]Rio bus fare increasing to $R3 Feb 8, (a Friday,) per Oglobo. This is a 25 cent increase. All the nation wide protests in June were for a 10 cent increase.[/QUOTE]Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.

I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1526702]I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?[/QUOTE]My official source says it means to keep what she told you a secret.

[QUOTE=Exec Talent;1526885]My official source says it means to keep what she told you a secret.[/QUOTE]Hummm, maybe that gesture has a couple of different meanings because it wasn't a secret she was telling at the time she made the motion.

Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1528266]Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.[/QUOTE]I have been living here in RJ for over 3 years, and I can't say I've seen this behavior. In fact, my chick took home the better part of her lunch from Bibi Sucos the other day, left it in my fridge, and then forgot it when she left. I texted her saying "hey someone left this delicious lunch in my fridge!" and she responded with a stream of obscenities about how she was pissed she forgot it because it was going to be her lunch the next day. So I don't know. Every time I go to Cervantes, the chick takes her uneaten half of the sandwich home.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1525774]Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]$1. 50 to take the bus here in Los Angeles, $5 for a day pass, $84 for monthly pass, $34 for students / disabled / elderly.

If you really got it hard, DPSS will give you $20 in bus tokens.

[QUOTE=Bravo; 1528266]Why do Brazilians hate "left overs"? I don't know what it is, but every brazilian girl I have ever dealt with on a personal level, won't eat left overs. (doesn't matter if its a GDP or regular chick). Every time we go out to eat in a restaurant, the females take like 4-5 bites of their food and then claim that they are full. When I ask the waitress to bag everything up so we can take it to go, the girls make a face. If I say "Well you can have it tomorrow for lunch" they have all told me that they won't eat it and will only throw it out. My x-fiancee always did that shit and it used to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] me off because I would spend all that money to take her out and she would never eat the whole meal.

In Brasil, I can kinda understand because maybe not everyone had a microwave in their home, but in America, I don't get the reason why they won't eat it. Maybe its a cultural thing.[/QUOTE]Bravo,

I seen things change over the years in the bad and hard times I seen some girls ask for their food to be bag up and they would warm them in my apt. BUT I seen others that would bag up food and give away the food to the street kids that would hang out in front of Club Help, it didn't matter if the food came from Bob's or Mia P or one of the buffet houses. BUT within the last few years some of the girls seem to look down on anyone that bag up or ask for to-go boxes now like that have it like that. $$$ I look at it this way if she is paying for her food she can eat it all there or take it home or leave it BUT if I am paying she better eat it or take it with her OR she is going to pay her half I can't stand a chick that beg to go to a nice place that cost me money and then take a few bites and fold her arms and say she ready to leave. BUT here is the worst I am Facebook a lot and Twitter I have watch many girls from Brazil that will have horny ass tricks take them to 5 stars hotels and high end places to wine and dine and they will post picture after picture of steak and crabs and other food that cost a lot $$$ and then after they take a few bites and take their pictures they ready to leave and then I had a Simp tell me this chick wanted to go by Bob's and eat after he spent a ton of reals for dinner. WTF?

The bottom line these girls in Brazil LOVE to floss and show off and act like they are big shots and rolling in money $$$ that's ok BUT don't be the sucker and Simp they get to buy them red bottom shoes and high-end hand bags and iphone's and Apple Mac Book Pro etc. So they can post them on Facebook and then play like they are disgusted if you ask for some pussy LOL.

I ready for them to be a FRONT door hooker and not a backdoor Gold-digger in other words either you pay them up front for some ass or leave them alone and not be used.

Kid Cisco

[url]http://www.acasadasbrasileirinhas.com.br/home[/url]

[QUOTE=Kid Cisco; 1529615]Bravo,

I seen things change over the years in the bad and hard times I seen some girls ask for their food to be bag up and they would warm them in my apt. BUT I seen others that would bag up food and give away the food to the street kids that would hang out in front of Club Help, it didn't matter if the food came from Bob's or Mia P or one of the buffet houses. BUT within the last few years some of the girls seem to look down on anyone that bag up or ask for to-go boxes now like that have it like that. $$$ I look at it this way if she is paying for her food she can eat it all there or take it home or leave it BUT if I am paying she better eat it or take it with her OR she is going to pay her half I can't stand a chick that beg to go to a nice place that cost me money and then take a few bites and fold her arms and say she ready to leave. BUT here is the worst I am Facebook a lot and Twitter I have watch many girls from Brazil that will have horny ass tricks take them to 5 stars hotels and high end places to wine and dine and they will post picture after picture of steak and crabs and other food that cost a lot $$$ and then after they take a few bites and take their pictures they ready to leave and then I had a Simp tell me this chick wanted to go by Bob's and eat after he spent a ton of reals for dinner. WTF?

The bottom line these girls in Brazil LOVE to floss and show off and act like they are big shots and rolling in money $$$ that's ok BUT don't be the sucker and Simp they get to buy them red bottom shoes and high-end hand bags and iphone's and Apple Mac Book Pro etc. So they can post them on Facebook and then play like they are disgusted if you ask for some pussy LOL.

I ready for them to be a FRONT door hooker and not a backdoor Gold-digger in other words either you pay them up front for some ass or leave them alone and not be used.

Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Exactly!

I slipped once and paid one phone bill of 100 Rheais.thats it-and as soon as they see that a massage is next etc etc. Other than that, I see my gdps outside of work or they take time off and we hang for nothing-if I eat, they eat but no different to back home. Even the stars of their upscale termas get same treatment or I just don't call them.

You just have to be firm, charming and kill them in bed and all will be good-let some other Donald Duck fill their bottles up.

Non-pro game is a little different in the sense that you must-like at home- never start by being overly generous or they expect it for the duration.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1525774]Paid R$3 last week in Sao Paulo.[/QUOTE]It's well worth getting a Bilhete Unico card for Sampa. Much simpler than Rio. Load up the card with as much or as little as you like and it never expires. It also gives you discounts when you use it more than once in a given time period on a single day and can be used on buses, Metro and even the trains (CPTM). Available from many stations, and machines are available to top up or check your balance. Saves money, time and hassle.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1533620][url]http://www.acasadasbrasileirinhas.com.br/home[/url][/QUOTE]Stopped watching after 5 seconds. Looks and sounds like a Transvestite.

Could be "I swear" or could be they refer to something religious?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1526702]I have seen girls do it many times but I have no idea what it means. What is the significance when they form an X with their two pointer fingers, place it in front of their mouths, and then kiss the X symbol?[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

I've never been to Brazil and was curious how the girls looks there. I have attached a picture of a girl that look identical to one of my favorite girls at a German FKK club. She is half German and other African. I was wondering if lots of girls look like her in Brazil.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1538526]I've never been to Brazil and was curious how the girls looks there. I have attached a picture of a girl that look identical to one of my favorite girls at a German FKK club. She is half German and other African. I was wondering if lots of girls look like her in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Why not just go to the Photo Gallery to look? Brazil is a multi-racial country. If you must have a girl who looks like that why not stick to the FKKs where you found that one?

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1538586]Why not just go to the Photo Gallery to look? Brazil is a multi-racial country. If you must have a girl who looks like that why not stick to the FKKs where you found that one?[/QUOTE]I've been telling this bloke the same thing repeatedly. I've even posted some pictures. And yet, he keeps asking the same questions about Brazil over and over again! At some point, you have to either fish or cut bait. Do your research. Check out the many, many pics. Then if you're still interested, plan a trip so that you can go see for yourself.

The only caveat I would issue is not to have your decision hinge entirely on other mongers' pictures of the tutes. I mean, before my first Rio trip I felt like I was seeing so many "ugly pics" that I really had no desire to go to Brazil. Well, a buddy was pleading with me to go. Screaming even LOL! Well, he was right. He understood my tastes perfectly and what I like, and he knew I would consistently find exactly what I want in Brazil.

The rest was history. And I learned a valuable lesson too. Never, ever let the pictures other members take 100 per cent sway your decision whether to go or not to go to any particular destination. It should be a factor, but not the predominate one. There's so much more to consider. I would have never gone to Brazil the first time had I followed my own instincts. And boy am I glad there was an "intervention"!

You see, it could just be that the guy who took those pics has no taste LOL! I mean, why would somebody fly all that way just to pay to fuck that you say to yourself! OK, let's be nice and say that maybe his tastes are vastly different from your own. Also consider that maybe his budget is smaller than yours, which means that he can't afford places that will offer greater numbers of the better looking women. Of course, the more money that you pay doesn't always add up to better service, but I do find a positive correlation between coin available and willing to be spent and access to the hot girls. This is how it works in life.

So that said, one should just keep all of this in mind. Then go fish or cut bait! In PL's case (and others like him) he's so concerned about whether or not the women will be "white enough" that I think he should just stick with Germany and the FKKs. I love those too, but only second to Brazil! Also, the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go.

[QUOTE=Albert Punter;1534614]Could be "I swear" or could be they refer to something religious?[/QUOTE]I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1538697]I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.[/QUOTE]Is Kelly still there? Man I saw her like 2005 there!

Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?

[QUOTE=RockTimes; 1543543]Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?[/QUOTE]Just download a good offline map that works from GPS alone. I've had no problems. PM if you've still got a problem.

[QUOTE=RockTimes;1543543]Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio? I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.[/QUOTE]I have a Garmin Nuvi 3590LMT, it takes sometime for it to lock onto the satellites, but works well in Rio. It has Garmin's Rio CityXplorer and South America 2013 map. If you're downtown, the tall buildings will obscure the signal. Some of those Brazilian GPS units also receive TV signals. They cost around $150USD+ Good site for free Garmin maps of the world is
http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

[QUOTE=RockTimes; 1543543]Does anybody have any problems with GPS signals reception in Rio?

I have a Garmin nuvi 200w with Brazil map loaded, but the problem is the satellite signals is nonexistent.

A taxi driver has another brand of GPS and he does not have problems.

Anybody experiences this?[/QUOTE]I always use google maps on my cell phone. No maps to load and no extra devices to carry around.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1543618]I always use google maps on my cell phone. No maps to load and no extra devices to carry around.[/QUOTE]Google is OK if you have wifi or a cheap download plan. But I still find it slow compared with a good offline GPS app. You can get one for the whole of Brasil for pennies and it is more accurate than Googlemaps. Googlemaps is helpful for streetview, but it has taken me to the wrong location several times in Brasil. Things like street numbers in a long street or just not recognising a place name. But whatever works for you. [url]http://www.skobbler.co.uk/apps/navigation[/url]

If a brazilian applies and gets a Tourist Visa to America, how long do they have before they have to travel? I think as Americans we must travel to brasil within two weeks of us receiving a Brasilian visa, so I wonder if it is the same for them.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1550566]If a brazilian applies and gets a Tourist Visa to America, how long do they have before they have to travel? I think as Americans we must travel to brasil within two weeks of us receiving a Brasilian visa, so I wonder if it is the same for them.[/QUOTE]Proof of travel is not required. Almost all applications are being approved.

Where or from who can I get these food stuff:

Premium quality beef franks for hotdogs or beef franks of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.

Quality beef patties for hamburgers, or beef patties of acceptable quality, similar or comparable to American counterparts.

Mustard, spicy mustard, relish of good quality.

Hot dog and hamburger buns of good quality.

Maybe suggestion on Brazilian brands of good quality.

All information greatly appreciated.

Hope this is an appropriate place to post this question.

I will be in Rio next week and would like to see if I can buy World Cup tickets while I am there. I want to buy tickets for the Portugal vs USA match in Manaus. I missed the third and final FIFA ticket sale a week ago, but I have a feeling that my unfamiliarity would have left me empty handed anyway.

Anyone know a good reliable source of tickets in Rio? If I can get tickets, I'll buy an air ticket to come back to Brazil during the game.

Thanks in advance!

Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Manny51;1560846]Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]
1. You are obliged to always carry some ID. Get a copy of your passport certified at a cartório.
2. Yes. VM.
3. I always swim in the water and never got sick, so does millions of other people as well. Some days the water is cleaner and other days it's not as clean.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1560846]Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?[/QUOTE]The ocean is your least worry. You should be more worried about the food. You will probably get traveler's diarrhea since you aren't used to the bacteria. So bring some lactobacilin or some probiotc.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1560846]Only a few more days till I am in Rio! Tee hee! (My best Al Bundy!)

Just a couple of quick general questions:

1. Do I really have to carry my passport everywhere? I read in a general travel book, I forgot which one, that you can get away with a photocopy of the face page if it is "certified." I assume that that is some kind of notarization and stamp. Is this true? And if so, where do I get it done? At a cambio? I would really prefer not to let some cop innocently ask for my passport and refuse to give it back.

2. I read somewhere that May 1 is a brazilian Labor Day. Do the termas and massage parlors / prives close? What are my options if so?

3. Also wanted to get an idea of how many people actually swim in the water. I like to surf (strictly small time) , but don't want to get sick in the water. I remember reading some really nasty posts in the recent past about sewage. Just how bad is it?

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Just to add a couple more points to sperto's response. Aside from a copy of your passport, I would also make a copy of your visa showing the dates to carry along with your passport copy. As for going for a swim, I have heard from my brazilian friends that the water on the Copa side is actually a bit cleaner than the Ipanema side. The Ipanema side has the sewer outlet closer. However, Ipanema has nice eye candy :)

[QUOTE=Mangera;1561023]Just to add a couple more points to sperto's response. Aside from a copy of your passport, I would also make a copy of your visa showing the dates to carry along with your passport copy. As for going for a swim, I have heard from my brazilian friends that the water on the Copa side is actually a bit cleaner than the Ipanema side. The Ipanema side has the sewer outlet closer. However, Ipanema has nice eye candy :)[/QUOTE]1. When you arrive, they stamp your passport, also there is a arrival / departure card you get on the plane, they stamp that one too. And when you leave, they take back the arrival card and stamp your passport on the way out. I leave my passport in hotel in a safe box. Copy the front one with the passport number and leave in a hidden place in the room. I never have cop asking for passport. I do carry the arrival card and a business card of my hotel.

2. My guess is they close. Call first to confirm.

3. Water in Copa and Ipanema are polluted. The water condition is listed daily on the local newspaper. Your best shot is farther South called Barra de Tijuca. Miles and miles of beach. But be careful at night. And you must watch for your property left on the beach. Better go in groups. Take turn to surf.

I'm going to visit Rio this August.

Is there any up-to-date guide I can use?

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1561955][url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.html[/url][/QUOTE]Damn they beat me to it! Nah thats cray

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1561955][url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10793257/Air-France-executive-and-wife-ran-2m-prostitution-ring-through-airline.html[/url][/QUOTE]I highly doubt that all the females were forced into prostitution, more than likely, they were already hoes and went to Paris in search of the euro. The woman that "escaped" was probably just pissed that the pimps were charging so much but she was making so little!

On this note, I met a guy from Queens who used to get girls from Help 3 month working visas to the states. Once in NY, he would have them dance in his strip clubs in LIC. The problem was that once the girls got to the states and saw how much money they could make from stripping, they didn't want to go back to Rio once their visa was up.

OK everyone, just got back from a 8 days in brazil! This won't be a classic 'field report, ' which is why I am posting it in the 'general info' section and not the 'reports' section. Take it as travelog, which is how it is intended. I speak as if to a newbie, like if I could go in the DeLorean and talk to the me of 10 days ago.

First of all, the venues. I would echo the observations that most other punters have made. The attractiveness of the women does not vary much from club to club, regardless of any cost differences. Some, but not all of the women have the 'bunda' look, meaning the normal sized legs tapering upward to a disproportionately large and round butt. Of course, there were those who were just fat. It is the sudden change in size from the leg to the butt that's the key. 4 x 4 (which I will hereafter refer to as 44) was the most packed. I was able to speak to some of the Brazilian guys hanging out, and they all told me, without exception, that 44 was THE place to be, the most highly regarded club. I started asking about other places- Centaurus? Sure that is a high end place, but nobody really goes there. Its a rip off. MV30? Monte Carlo? Never heard of them. So there you go.

44 was smaller than I imagined. Packed with people on a Friday night, but not the once in a lifetime circus that it has been hyped up to be. No biker chicks, firebreathers, or goth chicks with black fingernails. I was imagining the Cantina from Star Wars, but it was just typical chicas. Imagine an FKK with only the bar and you get the idea. I also checked out Monte Carlo on a Saturday, which was not appreciably nicer, just smaller. Interestingly, MC (9/8/20) ends up being only marginally more expensive than 4 x 4 (5/26). I thought that the girls were prettier at 4 x 4, and with more variety. So for those on a limited schedule, if you can only go to one place. 4 x 4 is it. Whatever your tastes are, you will find it there. Oh and also, for future reference, the centro termas are closed on May 1, their Labor day. I physically stopped by several of the venues to find them all shuttered.

Incidentally, T22 is a little dive bar across the street from MC. I took one look out of curiousity and bailed in about 10 seconds. Don't even bother. As for Bel Prazer, keep in mind that it is a massage parlor, and a small one at that. That means that there are no beds, just a real massage table: hard, narrow, and high. Everyone was very friendly, and pretty enough, but not quite 44 standards. For local office workers cutting out from work, I can understand the appeal. But tourists shouldn't bother. Just go for the Termas.

I was expecting Balcony bar to be at the top of some old seedy building. But actually it is a nice beachside bar and restaurant, the type you see in South Beach spilling into the sidewalk. In the daytime, it looks, and is, completely respectable. But for whatever reason, at midnight, tons of hookers way past their due date congregate there. I don't think its worth your time, especially at the prices that others are posting. I stopped by on a Saturday.

Getting back to the women, I found myself immediately comparing them to Colombian women in my head. Brazil has a very heterogeneous population, with women ranging from African heritage, latino looking, streaked tanned hair Portugese, and even redhead. You can see some absolutely stunning, Cosmopolitan Magazine women at the clubs and beaches, but that quality does not translate to the termas. Colombian women, on the other hand, have a more singular, 'latin' appearance and a more homogeneous population. I found the drop in looks from the Brazilian general population to the termas to be steep. Colombian women are more predictable in appearance, with a smaller standard deviation and thus, have beauty standards that translate better into the puta population. I am sure that veterans like Sperto and those living in Brazil can meet regular women and establish longer term relationships with true hotties. But I thought that women in the Termas were a little disappointing in looks. However, Brazilian women do make up for a lot of it by being better in the sack. Those rumors are all true!

So overall, based on my admittedly short experience, I would give Brazil a B+ in terms of punting destinations. For me, it was good, but not great. That being said, let me tell you why Rio de Janeiro jumps to an 'A' grade in the overall category. It can be summed up in one word: Lapa.

Lapa is one of the primary nightlife districts. It used to be the red light district in the early 20th century, and then fell into dilapidation. Then, about 10 years ago, the samba musician community began moving back in, setting up impromptu, bohemian style nightclubs. Now it is totally off the hook. The main draws are the live samba clubs. Of course, as the area has grown, there are some more generic clubs playing pop and rock and roll, but the heart of the place is traditional music. Brazil is South American, but it is very different from its Spanish speaking counterparts. There is no salsa here my friend. Samba is a mix of acoustic guitars and heavy percussion, and they sing in portugese. Live samba is infectious. I went to a samba club called 'Carioca da Gema' four nights in a row. That place is the bomb. At most of the clubs in Lapa, people are spilling into the street. But it is not pretentious in the way that jet-set Hollywood clubs are. There is no velvet rope, and everyone is welcome. The closest thing that I can think of for comparison for vibe and energy is New Orleans, my favorite nightlife town. Imagine a fusion of Frenchman and Bourbon St and you'll get the idea. Lots of gorgeous women, most wearing daisy dukes. On the weekends, there are tons of food and bar stands selling good and cheap food and booze all night long. All of it cleanly prepared. I did not get sick. If you just want to hang outside and take it all in, Afro-brazillian rumba style music is being played impromptu outdoors. If I lived in Rio I would be there every weekend. I remember choosing to stay in Lapa instead of checking out Centaurus on Saturday night. Going to a Terma seemed like a waste of time. Seriously.

So in summary, if you go to Rio seeking punting nirvana, you will be disappointed. From what I understand, those days have past. But if you visit Rio / Brazil as a fun and adventure region with decent punting easily available, you'll have a much better time.

Just a couple of odds and ends. I spoke to the Federal police at Customs and immigration. You do NOT need to carry your actual passport around. A photocopy is just fine, and it doesn't need to be stamped / certified. There is also a small departure card document that they give you at customs when you arrive. You must keep this form and return it when you leave. Losing it results in a fine of over $100, not to mention a whole lot of hassle. You must also carry a copy of this with you. Don't carry around the original. It is thin and fragile and won't last one night in your pocket.

And in regards to safety, I personally thought that the 'danger' in Rio was way way overblown. I read the postings, scoured the internet, saw the youtube clips. I started out with the money belt, the shoe money, the whole nine yards. But after a while, I started to feel like a paranoid idiot. I felt safe everywhere at all times. I took the metro until it closed at midnight. I walked from Centro to Lapa at night. Even Centro at night seemed ok, more abandoned than unsafe. Why would criminals seeking to rob people hang out there? There are no people to rob. That being said, I did not go north of Vargas Ave, nor did I go anywhere near a favela or VM. Think of Rio as Manhattan. Be aware of your surroundings, don't dress or act like a rich asshole, and walk with a purpose.

Yes, Rio is getting more expensive, but it seems more expensive than it is because the two things we are most interested in are getting the price hikes the worst: hotels and putas. Most tourists stay in Ipanema, which I also highly recommend. Compared to Copa, Ipanema is more intimate, and probably a little safer. Ipanema has smaller tree-lined blocks, with more quaint shops, restaurants and bars. The beach, which is shorter than in Copa, is flood-lit. You can see clearly to the breaking water, so I can imagine people swimming at night. Copa has bigger blocks, many lined by barren locked up store fronts. The thing about Ipanema is that it is a very small area. There just aren't enough hotels there, so prices go up. A decent hotel starts at $150. As for the prices of the Termas, well, I can't speak intelligently about why those prices are going up, but they are. Food and booze, though, are cheap. Public transportation, and even the prices of taxis (relative to other big cities) is also cheap. A subway token costs 3. 2 Reals, which is about 1. 50 cents. And a late night plate of barbecued skewered carne asada with all the fixings was about $4. 25.

And by the way, if you ever need some advice and want to speak to a knowledgeable expat in American English, there is a small all-purpose tourist shop next to Monte Carlo called 'Blame it on Rio. ' I got wind of it because one member posted them as a good place to exchange dollars in Copa, and he was right. They gave me 2. 2 Reals to the dollar, which is just a hair below the financial exchange rate of 2. 24. You can get that rate in Centro, but everywhere else in Copa was 2. 1. The proprieter there is a guy named Bobby. He is very cool and can answer all of your questions. There is an internet terminal there, and laundry facilities. It is also a magnet for American visitors, and I ended up chatting with random people there several times.

Rio and Brazil are a must go. Just don't let your imagination run away with you and you'll have a great time. Just my dos pesos. Excuse me, Reals.

[QUOTE=Manny51;1563606]there is a small all-purpose tourist shop next to Monte Carlo called 'Blame it on Rio.[/QUOTE]Nice report Manny. Slight correction, lest some newbies get lost and confused: Blame it on Rio is located on Rua Xavier da Silveira, 15 B. Monte Carlo is on Hilário Gouvêa, 19, both in Copa. MC is between the Hotel Oceano Copacabana and an apartment building. MC is blocks from Blame it on Rio. And yes, Bobby is a cool guy. I rented from him my first few trips to Rio.
Dive bar T22 is not across from MC. Its across the street from the park near MC, near the corner of Praca Serzedelo Correa and Siqueiria Campos, next to Boteco Cevada, a tavern. Yes, it's a dive, but good for a few beers.

Thanks for the correction. When I last stopped by there on Sunday, I could have sworn it looked like I was on the Monte Carlo street! But when I look at the maps again, that was a stupid mistake. Must have been too many beers!

Yes,"Blame it on Rio" is just down the street from the first Copa subway stop. Monte Carlo, I think was down the street from the second subway stop. And the bus to Cristos Redeemer is at the last subway stop.

BTW, for any newbies going to the area soon, I can also tell you about Foz Iguazu and the waterfalls. Iguazu requires some some tips in advance to see efficiently. Feel free to PM me with questions.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1538640]I've been telling this bloke the same thing repeatedly.

The only caveat I would issue is not to have your decision hinge entirely on other mongers' pictures of the tutes. I mean, before my first Rio trip I felt like I was seeing so many "ugly pics" that I really had no desire to go to Brazil. Well, a buddy was pleading with me to go. Screaming even LOL! Well, he was right. He understood my tastes perfectly and what I like, and he knew I would consistently find exactly what I want in Brazil. And I learned a valuable lesson too. Never, ever let the pictures other members take 100 per cent sway your decision whether to go or not to go to any particular destination. It should be a factor, but not the predominate one. There's so much more to consider. I would have never gone to Brazil the first time had I followed my own instincts. And boy am I glad there was an "intervention"!

So that said, one should just keep all of this in mind. Then go fish or cut bait! In PL's case (and others like him) he's so concerned about whether or not the women will be "white enough" that I think he should just stick with Germany and the FKKs. I love those too, but only second to Brazil! Also, the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go.[/QUOTE]Responding to this post a bit late, but I agree with all. I am often dumbfounded by the pictures that people post in thus forum (not necessarily Brazil) , calling this girl a hot spinner and such. I try to be polite and not comment, but holy crap, if you can't get a girl that looks like that in the states, then something is wrong with you. The only way to know if the women in a country appeal to you is to go.

By the way, what did you mean by "the Brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go." Please explain.

[quote=manny51; 1563857]responding to this post a bit late, but i agree with all. i am often dumbfounded by the pictures that people post in thus forum (not necessarily brazil) , calling this girl a hot spinner and such. i try to be polite and not comment, but holy crap, if you can't get a girl that looks like that in the states, then something is wrong with you. the only way to know if the women in a country appeal to you is to go.

by the way, what did you mean by "the brazil sex scene is going through a bit of transition right now, so it may not be the best time for a noob to go." please explain.[/quote]well, i think you touched on it in bits and pieces of your report. prices are up. for everything it seems. plus places have closed. help shutting down was a huge blow to the scene. i admit that, even if i was never a help fan. it was well past its prime by the time i started going down. l'uomo closed. rio antigo closed. termas aeroporto closed. some of the privees that people liked are gone. places aren't open on sundays anymore. although i haven't heard of any raids lately, there were some raids that got places like centaurus and 4x4 shut down for periods of time. i think that will happen again.

i think plenty of us are surprised that balcony is still open. i'll bet money that it won't be by the time the olympics roll around, if not much, much sooner than that. it just seems that on the heels of the demise of helpee the whole "tone" began to change. i knew it would happen too as soon as brazil was awarded with the world cup and the olympic games! now they want to put on a "good face" for the rest of world. show they've "arrived".

i sincerely believe that more stringent measures and attacks against mongerdom in brazil are coming. at the same time, i cannot and will not ever give up on the marvelous city! we're just going through a phase right now. a phase that will begin to reverse itself after this damned world cup and the games are over! and the economic crash that is sure to ensue afterwards. oh you can bet your bottom dollar there will be an "economic adjustment"! we need that adjustment too to help things get back to "normal".

with good fortune i hope to get to brazil again. but when i do, i want things to be trending my way. the monger's way! i'm glad you enjoyed your first trip, even if you were a bit limited in where you went and what you saw. may that b+ turn into an a+ the next time! i know my first trip was an a++! man i wore myself out so damn bad from butt fucking all those hot brazilian girls that i had to take a whole damn week off of work when i got back home i was so damn run down hahaha!

[quote=the cane; 1564003]well, i think you touched on it in bits and pieces of your report. prices are up. for everything it seems. plus places have closed. help shutting down was a huge blow to the scene. i admit that, even if i was never a help fan. it was well past its prime by the time i started going down. l'uomo closed. rio antigo closed. termas aeroporto closed. some of the privees that people liked are gone. places aren't open on sundays anymore. although i haven't heard of any raids lately, there were some raids that got places like centaurus and 4x4 shut down for periods of time. i think that will happen again.

i think plenty of us are surprised that balcony is still open. i'll bet money that it won't be by the time the olympics roll around, if not much, much sooner than that. it just seems that on the heels of the demise of helpee the whole "tone" began to change. i knew it would happen too as soon as brazil was awarded with the world cup and the olympic games! now they want to put on a "good face" for the rest of world. show they've "arrived".

i sincerely believe that more stringent measures and attacks against mongerdom in brazil are coming. at the same time, i cannot and will not ever give up on the marvelous city! we're just going through a phase right now. a phase that will begin to reverse itself after this damned world cup and the games are over! and the economic crash that is sure to ensue afterwards. oh you can bet your bottom dollar there will be an "economic adjustment"! we need that adjustment too to help things get back to "normal".

with good fortune i hope to get to brazil again. but when i do, i want things to be trending my way. the monger's way! i'm glad you enjoyed your first trip, even if you were a bit limited in where you went and what you saw. may that b+ turn into an a+ the next time! i know my first trip was an a++! man i wore myself out so damn bad from butt fucking all those hot brazilian girls that i had to take a whole damn week off of work when i got back home i was so damn run down hahaha![/quote]

i agree with your analysis 110%. help closing was devastating. at the beginning i didn't care because, as you, i wasn't a big fan and thought that rio had a lot more to offer. however, after help my rio experience was never the same, no other mongering place has the quantity, quality, diversity of babes that help offered. that balcony shithole is not even 10% of was the help experience was, and 2-3 times the help prices in drinks.

like you, i hope it comes back to normal some day.

[QUOTE=Papi Muy Rico; 1564130]I agree with your analysis 110. Help closing was devastating. At the beginning I didn't care because, as you, I wasn't a big fan and thought that Rio had a lot more to offer. However, after Help my Rio experience was never the same, No other mongering place has the quantity, quality, diversity of babes that Help offered. That Balcony shithole is not even 10% of was the Help experience was, and 2-3 times the Help prices in drinks.

Like you, I hope it comes back to normal some day.[/QUOTE]Wait untill the FIFA WC and the Olimpics are over.

Don't romanticize how great Help was. I was never any Help fan but I went there many times anyway. Help didn't close during it's heydays, which were in the nineties. The final years when Help were open it had gone downhill. Less girls, ridiculous prices and not impressive quality on the girls. After Help closed, that part of Copacabana became safer with less thieves, streetkids, drugdealers and scumbags. Of course it also became more boring. Even I missed the action on the outside of Help.

After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough privées in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.

That makes a lot of sense. The economy, and generally people's lives, got better, so punting declined. I have been reading in "The Economist" about the BRIC countries being on the rise for years now. Brazilians are a fun, good natured people, so I wish them well.

I just assumed that Help closed because it was shut down by the police. It never occurred to me that its business model may have became obsolete, and it just closed.

I have to disagree. I don't think the quantity of girls dwindled because of an economic boom for brasilians. (Shit, those girls were still living 5 deep in a 1 bedroom apartment! Middle class explosion had nothing to do with GDPs) The numbers dwindled because the girls started going to Europe in chase of the euros.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1564343]I have to disagree. I don't think the quantity of girls dwindled because of an economic boom for brasilians. (Shit, those girls were still living 5 deep in a 1 bedroom apartment! Middle class explosion had nothing to do with GDPs) The numbers dwindled because the girls started going to Europe in chase of the euros.[/QUOTE]Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1564352]Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.[/QUOTE]It depends on the country. Countries in the lower half of economic development, in poverty, usually see substantial growth of the poor upwards to the middle class. But countries that are already near the middle, who are rising to the upper ranks, who already have the infrastructure for finance and big business, generally have the rich just get richer, with only some "trickle down" wealth in the form of better civil services via taxation.

Interesting, but I never thought of Brazil as a country where girls would travel to work. The developed western world speaks either English or Spanish. Brazilian portugese is so different, that I would think they would have a hard time working and living abroad, except maybe obviously Portugal. They would need an organized "brothel" type system, like an FKK in Germany. Although I have not been to many, I have never seen a brazilian girl in an FKK.

Off topic, I will watch with great interest how Brazil deals with the world cup, and the time afterword. From what I saw, I don't think that Rio has the hotel volume or the infrastructure to handle the masses. I saw construction crews still building highways and bridges, with the games only one month away! I saw a CNN report that said that the Sao Paolo fresh water reserve is just about empty. How are hotel guests going to like turning on the shower and getting nothing? Brazil is investing a lot of money into these games. The only way they get some of it back is with tourists spending money. Apparently, the majority of tickets have been sold to Brazilians. But if the rest of the world is staying home on watching it on TV, that doesn't bring in any money.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1564352]Well the rich got richer. Who are the people you knew to be poor before, but are now a member of the middle class? Brazil don't work that way.[/QUOTE]37 million "poor brazilians" became middle class.
[url]http://www.sae.gov.br/site/?p=17665[/url]
I find it quite obvious that the big majority have better conditions now than before. Just see how they spend money.

[QUOTE=Manny51; 1564375]Interesting, but I never thought of Brazil as a country where girls would travel to work. The developed western world speaks either English or Spanish. Brazilian portugese is so different, that I would think they would have a hard time working and living abroad, except maybe obviously Portugal. They would need an organized "brothel" type system, like an FKK in Germany. Although I have not been to many, I have never seen a brazilian girl in an FKK.

Off topic, I will watch with great interest how Brazil deals with the world cup, and the time afterword. From what I saw, I don't think that Rio has the hotel volume or the infrastructure to handle the masses. I saw construction crews still building highways and bridges, with the games only one month away! I saw a CNN report that said that the Sao Paolo fresh water reserve is just about empty. How are hotel guests going to like turning on the shower and getting nothing? Brazil is investing a lot of money into these games. The only way they get some of it back is with tourists spending money. Apparently, the majority of tickets have been sold to Brazilians. But if the rest of the world is staying home on watching it on TV, that doesn't bring in any money.[/QUOTE]Spain is a popular place for Brazilian girls to go for work. The languages are similar enough that Brazilian girls will often ask me to speak to them in Spanish rather than in English because they can understand me better. Also, Spain has a large, well-developed sex industry that offers many venue options for a garota de programa to work and earn money. I have met more than a few Brazilian girls working in Spain. Often times they are among the small handful in any particular setting who will offer anal.

I too will be watching the World Cup with great interest. I'm anticipating that there will be a lot of organized protests. We should not forget that this isn't the first time that Brazil has hosted the World Cup though. Brazil hosted the Cup in 1950. But, that was a very different time then with very different expectations. A different Brazil and a different world. No 24/7 international TV all over the place and the common man jumping on airplanes and flying around the world as spectators. Not like what we have today.

By the way, they weren't ready in 1950 either! I just watched a documentary last night and you could see people cheering away in a clearly unfinished Maracana Stadium. If there are any Brazilian tutes working overseas, I imagine that a hell of a lot of them will be coming back home to cheer on the home team and get paid! I'm just hoping that Brazil doesn't embarrass itself the way India did with the 2010 Commonwealth Games that were held in Delhi.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1564441]Spain is a popular place for Brazilian girls to go for work. The languages are similar enough that Brazilian girls will often ask me to speak to them in Spanish rather than in English because they can understand me better. Also, Spain has a large, well-developed sex industry that offers many venue options for a garota de programa to work and earn money. I have met more than a few Brazilian girls working in Spain. Often times they are among the small handful in any particular setting who will offer anal.[/QUOTE]Spain, huh? Darned. I have another vacation in a few months. I was debating between Spain OR Eastern Europe (Prague, Budapest, Vienna) and I decided on Eastern Europe. Maybe I chose wrong.

I am sure that they do well there. The comfort level that Brazillian women have with anal is very uncommon in other parts of the world.

[quote]After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough privées in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.[/quote]Sperto is correct, based on my observations having visited several years running before moving here 4 years ago. Also the economic boom meant that the GDPs were priced out of Zona Sul and had to start living (and coming) from way farther beyond. They used to live 2-3-4 in apartments in Copa, Botafogo, etc. This stopped being the norm as housing prices skyrocketed in Zona Sul. And the girls started living / coming from way father away. Past Barra (Jacarepagua and way beyond). Nova Igauzu and way beyond. The Baixada. Realengo / Bangu. Never used to see a lot of that. Now it's the norm.

The hotter girls who still want to work moved to SP to chase the money. Rio's GDP scene got hit particularly hard, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Sperto; 1564241]Don't romanticize how great Help was. I was never any Help fan but I went there many times anyway. Help didn't close during it's heydays, which were in the nineties. The final years when Help were open it had gone downhill. Less girls, ridiculous prices and not impressive quality on the girls. After Help closed, that part of Copacabana became safer with less thieves, streetkids, drugdealers and scumbags. Of course it also became more boring. Even I missed the action on the outside of Help.

After the brazilian economy improved people got better off. Lots of poor people became the new middle class. This means less poor women who becomes prostitutes. This doesn't only affects the quantity but also the quality. There are still more than enough prives in Rio, but the quality of the girls has gone down. More fatties with giant bundas de gelatina.[/QUOTE]Maybe during the last few years Help wasn't the same, but compared with what you have now (Balcony) looks like a million bucks!

Another dies working on "Pharaoh's" unfinished stadiums:

[url]http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/08/brazilian-worker-electrocuted-at-site-world-cup-stadium-construction/[/url]

[b]ioc chiefs 'make secret plea' to use london 2012 venues as rio 2016 olympic games fall behind schedule[/b]

so worried are olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 rio games has fallen, london has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. according to the london evening standard, an informal approach has been made by ioc chiefs to ascertain whether london's 2012 olympic venues could be brought back into use.

the build-up to the rio games has been labelled a shambles, with every venue badly behind schedule, spiralling costs and accusations of negligence. ioc vice-president john coates has already called brazil's preparations "the worst i've experienced", with just two years to go and a football world cup to host in between.

an "unprecedented" special task force has been set up to try and speed up preparations but the situation on the ground is said to be "critical".

full article:

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/ioc-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-london-2012-venues-as-rio-2016-olympic-games-fall-behind-schedule.html[/url]

[QUOTE=SavePros321; 1565245][b]IOC chiefs 'make secret plea' to use London 2012 venues as Rio 2016 Olympic Games fall behind schedule[/b]

So worried are Olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 Rio Games has fallen, London has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. According to the London Evening Standard, an informal approach has been made by IOC chiefs to ascertain whether London's 2012 Olympic venues could be brought back into use.

Full Article:

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/IOC-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-London-2012-venues-as-Rio-2016-Olympic-Games-fall-behind-schedule.html[/url][/QUOTE]Great article. Brazil is only 10% ready at this point? Wow. I guess the pleas is not so secret anymore. I bet they would do it if olympic village didn't have to be evacuated.

[quote=savepros321; 1565245][b]ioc chiefs 'make secret plea' to use london 2012 venues as rio 2016 olympic games fall behind schedule[/b]

so worried are olympic organisers by how far behind schedule the 2016 rio games has fallen, london has reportedly been asked, in secret, if it could host the event at the last minute. according to the london evening standard, an informal approach has been made by ioc chiefs to ascertain whether london's 2012 olympic venues could be brought back into use.

the build-up to the rio games has been labelled a shambles, with every venue badly behind schedule, spiralling costs and accusations of negligence. ioc vice-president john coates has already called brazil's preparations "the worst i've experienced", with just two years to go and a football world cup to host in between.

an "unprecedented" special task force has been set up to try and speed up preparations but the situation on the ground is said to be "critical".

full article:

[url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/10819420/ioc-chiefs-make-secret-plea-to-use-london-2012-venues-as-rio-2016-olympic-games-fall-behind-schedule.html[/url][/quote]if true, my hunch would be that real estate prices begin to plunge in rio after that anouncement. the economy begins to take a dive. i don't wish for this to happen, just speculating. thats all.

The IOC has denied the story. But of course! What else are they going to say? They did confirm that so far progress on the preparations for the 2016 Olympics are "the worst ever seen". Well, let's hope that in the end the Brazilian Games somehow live up to all the hype in the advertising spot (see link). We shall see. That is, if they don't move the Games to London!

[url]http://www.sportsworldnews.com/articles/13219/20140510/olympics-2016-ioc-denies-london-will-replace-rio-de-janeiro-brazil-as-host-city-video.htm[/url]

They have to get the World Cup right first. Why somebody thought this country could handle both the World Cup and the Olympics one after the other is beyond me! They don't need these super sporting spectacles. What they need are roads, improved mass transit, schools, hospitals, affordable housing, and jobs. That's what they need. Among other things. I hope the Brazilian people spill out into the streets en masse in protest!

rio admits that it is not going to be able to clean up guanabara bay in time for the olympics! not sure what that will mean for all the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118][CodeWord118][/url] that were slated to take place, i wonder where they will move them to.

[url]http://news.yahoo.com/mayor-rio-fail-keep-pledge-clean-bay-202539530.html[/url]

I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!!

Brazil and Rio have already lost the WC in the way that matters; economically by an serious observer.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1579824]I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!![/QUOTE]

The simple fact that IOC has not quashed the rumor speaks for itself; Brazil has already lost in the way that matters; foreign investment; and mongers, who are a source of dinero for poor Brazilians, should take note and follow suit.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1565526]If true, my hunch would be that real estate prices begin to plunge in Rio after that anouncement. The economy begins to take a dive. I don't wish for this to happen, just speculating. Thats all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;1579824]I met up with a former Rio vet for dinner last night and we were talking about the upcoming World Cup. I mentioned that a number of my friends had asked me if I was going to Rio for the WC and they expressed surprised when I told them "Not in a million years!" My buddy said to me "I know Brazil is a favorite to win the World Cup, but then again, they are a favorite to win every time! Imagine the chaos and protests that will happen if Brazil gets bounced early!! They are already protesting about how much money brasil is wasting! How much more angry will the Brasilians be, if the team loses early!" Rio will be a fucking mess!![/QUOTE]

As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

São Paulo did not became a mess !

This is a 10 page article about the Brazilian sex culture as you travel from the Southern tip of the country to the northern end covering various cities.

Cities: Sao Paulo, Rio, Curitiba, Fortaleza, Brasilia, Florianopolis, Salvador, Recife, Vitoria, Belo Horizonte and much more; the original and complete article is here: [URL]http://www.classificados.xxx/escorts-acompanhantes-brazil-expectations-2014-and-beyond.php[/URL].

Before going into the discussion of escorts in any of the Cities in Brazil, it is important to point out how vast the country is, and how the sex culture varies as you move from the North to the South, and vice versa. Approximate population is about 200 million inhabitants as of 2014. The population is extremely diverse by the admixture of many races: Indians, Africans, Europeans, Asians. Not only do the sexual cultures change across the vast nation but as well as the ethnic make ups of the populations, hence the type of escorts you will find.

For the simplification of this article I will breakdown the Country in 4 different regions as pertains to sexual mongering namely; the south, the center, the north-east and finally the north. So let's journey together across from the Southern State of Rio Grande do Sul, neighboring Uruguay and Argentina to the Northern State of Amazonas, neighboring Venezuela, at about 600 nautical miles per week which will take us about 5 weeks to cross.

Escorts in the Southern region of Brazil: Porto Alegre, Curitiba, Florianopoli, Joinville, Londrina.

The southern part of the Country which include large and medium cities like Porto Alegre, in Rio Grande do Sul, Florianopolis, Joinville in Santa Catarina, Curitiba, Londrina, Maringa in Parana are populated by people of about 80% European descent (Germans, Italians, Portuguese etc). Which means if you had to go to these places for sexual reasons, then you should expect escorts of Caucasian descent. White girls as referred to in some parts of the World. Girls in this region are reserved and very educated, which is not surprising because, generally speaking, everything in the South is very well organized than in most part of the Country. As an example, you will not see much difference between Curitiba and any medium size American city in terms of organization and provision of services.

To better understand the Brazilian ethnicities or racial composition, just look at this way: The people become more racially mixed as one moves from South to the North. More like a color gradient. So if you are looking for a girl like those highly publicized in "exotic beauty" magazines, then don't go to the South, go to the Central or the North-eastern region.

In Curitiba or Porto Alegre, if you are into kink sexual stuff you might have some difficulties finding girls to play along, unless you will be offering more money than the average customer or become a regular customer for her to feel comfortable and be able to participate. Most escorts in Curitiba for instance does not do anal sex, unlike their counterparts in Sao Paulo, and Rio de Janeiro. Like I said, they are mostly reserved but passionate. They are not as outgoing as those of Rio in all perspectives.

Sex clubs (locally called Termas) are very prevalent in the Southern part than in any part of Brazil. And they are cleaner and modern. While the Southern girls maybe somewhat reserved, their respective State governments have allowed the flourish of sex clubs (which are night spots for guys to go and pick a girl). Last time, I was in Curitiba and Porto Alegre, there were a lot of such Clubs opening around 9 pm. All taxi drivers knows where they are. Taxi drivers are a little bit more trustworthy than their cousins in Rio or Sao Paulo. Most of the clubs operate a little bit different from the popular Termases of Rio de Janeiro. Different in a way such that you go there to have a drink and converse with the girls, and if you like one, you negotiate then take her out of the Club (after paying a fee to the Club) to your hotel or apartment. Some have rooms within the Club, but as not abundant as in Rio places. This is easy to understand because people there are more conserved and tend to conduct sexual activities in their private places.

Where do you really get beautiful escorts in Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Londrina, Florianopolis and other southern cities. ?

This one is a no brainer, the simple answer is the INTERNET. Yes, since the culture is more conserved than the Central and Northern part of Brazil, most girls advertise their services solely on the internet. They have basically migrated from the earlier mentioned Sex Clubs to the internet for so many reasons. Reasons which includes avoiding running into a family member if they worked in a sex club, and the flexibility of working hours (since some are really students) and more money as independent escorts.

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BETTER YET, you could do the research before you even get on the plane to Brazil. You can actually call and lined up the escorts that you will see when you arrive. It is cheaper to call Brazil from overseas than within Brazil. So you can call some girls tell them when you want to see them so that they are expecting you. It will save you time and headaches when you arrive. Continued: [URL]http://www.classificados.xxx/escorts-acompanhantes-brazil-expectations-2014-and-beyond.php[/URL].

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1580412]As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess ![/QUOTE]OMG, can you imagine what would happen if the Brazilian team lost? Even with all the discussion about protests and corruption, that scenario just never occurred to me.

The Brasilian's love of soccer is the only thing keeping things together now. Its like a countdown. Once that hope and passion of winning the whole thing goes away, and all the sports bars are filled with foreigners cheering their teams, the whole country is going to start to break down.

Can you imagine the stress on that coach? That explains what I hear was a bogus call on the part of the referrees.

Watched the game with paulistas and some hot non pros at a bar, not in SP, but another state of Brazil. About as interested as I will ever get in the beautiful game. The beautiful fans.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1580412]As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess ![/QUOTE]

By the way, ABG, are you corinthians?

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1580925]Watched the game with paulistas and some hot non pros at a bar, not in SP, but another state of Brazil. About as interested as I will ever get in the beautiful game. The beautiful fans.[/QUOTE]

It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586221]It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!![/QUOTE]We all knew it would happen. It really was a matter of when.

Protester: Hey Fernando, are you coming with me to the protest?

Fernando: Well, you know I would but Brazil is playing Mexico.

Protester: Really, I have been trying to keep my mind of off football and focusing on how much I hate FIFA and how our own government has screwed us over.

Fernando: The game is at 3:00.

Protester: I'll bring the beer.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1580927]By the way, ABG, are you corinthians?[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm corintiano!

[QUOTE=Manny51;1580708]OMG, can you imagine what would happen if the Brazilian team lost? Even with all the discussion about protests and corruption, that scenario just never occurred to me.

The Brasilian's love of soccer is the only thing keeping things together now. Its like a countdown. Once that hope and passion of winning the whole thing goes away, and all the sports bars are filled with foreigners cheering their teams, the whole country is going to start to break down.

Can you imagine the stress on that coach? That explains what I hear was a bogus call on the part of the referrees.[/QUOTE]But Brazil is still winning!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1586417]But Brazil is still winning![/QUOTE]

In a way or in another (you know what I mean) Brazil will win.
This is general thinking here.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586221]It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police.[/QUOTE]I agree that Brazil has done a good job. On and off the pitch so far. But there's no opportunity to think it has been perfect. There was a Black Bloc attack on English tourists in the papers last week, in a pub just yards from the official fanfest area in Anhangaba Sao Paulo.

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2662942/England-fans-Sao-Paulo-attacked-fireworks-Brazilian-thugs-leaving-10-hospital.html[/URL]

A couple of reporters (CNN & AP) were seriously injured in clashes on the opening Thursday night. I saw pictures of bank windows and cars being vandalised. Locals clashed with Argentina fans in Belo last week throwing bottles and police used shock grenades. There's some pictures here [URL]http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/16/world-cup-2014-17-pictures-of-shocking-violence-police-open-live-fire-anti-fifa-protesters_n_5498351.html[/URL] of police looking like they are dressed for Star Wars. A specialist unit has been set up in Kent, England, to deal with increases in domestic violence. And some of the Metros (Rio and Sampa) have struggled (but what's new!

On the whole though it has been more peaceful and good-natured than many doomsday sayers predicted. Both police and fans have generally behaved wonderfully and I hope Brasil continues to do well in the next round.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1586221]It seems like Brazil has done a very good job so far with the World Cup! I haven't seen a single news broadcast of violence against tourists or protestors clashing with the police. It looks like they passed the first test, so maybe they will be just as successful the Olympics!![/QUOTE]
Considering all the delays of constructing footballs stadiums, airports etc I guess Brazil have done pretty well as a WC host.
There have been protests in all the Copa cities, but not that many protestors and police handled the situations quickly. At least as long as Brazil plays well the protestors will be too busy watching the games, eat churrasco and drink beer.

It's interesting to read the local papers and read about the robberies of tourists. Not surprisingly many gringos have been robbed in the Copa cities. In Salvador 25 Dutch fans got mass robbed.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1580412]As a Brasilian I'm very happy that we won the first game and our people is celebrating the victory!

Protest were almost none here in So Paulo!

So Paulo did not became a mess ![/QUOTE]Confratulations to both teams, very good match!

The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.

Buy rumor, sell news: copa do mundo

Now how to discount political risk, volatility ahead of Oct.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1586456]Considering all the delays of constructing footballs stadiums, airports etc I guess Brazil have done pretty well as a WC host.
There have been protests in all the Copa cities, but not that many protestors and police handled the situations quickly. At least as long as Brazil plays well the protestors will be too busy watching the games, eat churrasco and drink beer.

It's interesting to read the local papers and read about the robberies of tourists. Not surprisingly many gringos have been robbed in the Copa cities. In Salvador 25 Dutch fans got mass robbed.[/QUOTE]

Yes, you are probably right.

I have read that airlines and hotels are not happy.
Many fans travelled to Brazil but businessmen and standard tourists refrain from coming during this month.
So basically airlines and hotels turnover is as usual.
However, the payback for this investment is supposed to materialize later when all these fans maybe will come back for tourism or others will come attracted by what they are learning about Brazil during World Cup period.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1587477]The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.

Buy rumor, sell news: copa do mundo

Now how to discount political risk, volatility ahead of Oct.[/QUOTE]

A site where people register where they get robbed. Covers only some of the major capitals in Brazil.

The number of registered cases on the site are very few but it stills give quite a good picture.

[URL]http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.br[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1589153]A site where people register where they get robbed. Covers only some of the major capitals in Brazil.

The number of registered cases on the site are very few but it stills give quite a good picture.

[URL]http://www.ondefuiroubado.com.br[/URL][/QUOTE]So I am in a taxi on the way to the airport. The driver is using his GPS to identify where there is traffic. Problem is he was using it to drive into the traffic not away from it. Took forever to reach the airport and I missed my flight. He then took me back and of course gave me his card.

Thieves could use the info from this site in the same way. Where is it good to rob people? Lately in Rio I have seen it even on what used to be safe neighborhood streets. Lot of people who thought they were going to get rich from the Cup have not. After the Cup, when unskilled laborers no longer have high paying construction jobs it will get worse. Times are going to be tough for Brazilians.

The Scorpion's Sweet Venom: The Diary of a Brazilian Call Girl.

Is worth a read. SP GDP. Moema. ABG, you must be familiar with this book, blog, etc?

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1589338]The Scorpion's Sweet Venom: The Diary of a Brazilian Call Girl.

Is worth a read. SP GDP. Moema. ABG, you must be familiar with this book, blog, etc?[/QUOTE]Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha[/URL]

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29[/URL]

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1589359]Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha[/URL]

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29[/URL][/QUOTE]Not a particularly interesting read. But it won't take long, only 170 pages.

The movie is available with English subtitles.

Already watched the movie. That lead me to the book, which I read in an afternoon. It's the counterpart to Bubba Boys' Rio Guide.

Mad language skills?

Do you mean that "Vc fala portoguese muito mal. " and "Vc no intenda nada" are not compliments?

As long as I can put porta dos fundos on a HDTV while I am banging her gi quatro, eu falo perfeita! Kkkkk.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1589359]Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha[/URL]

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1589359]Pretty sure you are talking about Bruna Surfistina.

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha[/URL]

Worth watching the movie, to brush up on your mad language skillz.

[URL]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1587828/[/URL]
[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruna_Surfistinha_%28film%29[/URL][/QUOTE]I used to be her costumer in the Brooklin prive. IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality.

ABG

ABG, you wrote, "IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality. ".

I'd be interested in knowing in as much detail, why? No rush.

I think it would be very informative and useful.

BTW, I will head to SP sooner than later, and PM you.

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1589494]I used to be her costumer in the Brooklin prive. IMHO the book & movie are just fantasies, nothing even close to reality.

ABG[/QUOTE]

Something very, very disturbing out of all of the positive thus far:

[URL]http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/flyover-bridge-collapses-in-world-cup-host-city-of-belo-horizonte-at-least-one-dead-in-tragedy-30405501.html[/URL]

This was construction that was supposed to be completed in time for the 2014 World Cup, but they didn't make it in time. And, they still haven't finished! Meanwhile, more have died along the way. Also, if you want to know about some outrageous construction-related stories in connection with World Cup preparations, take some time to investigate what's going on in Qatar right now as they prepare to be the next host country for the Cup.

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1587477]The economic benefit to Brazilian economy of wc probably already peaked, most likely in week or two before copa started.[/QUOTE]From TIME: "Brazil is throwing a party that, in the end, will cost it somewhere between $15 billion and $20 billion, according to a report in Sports Business Journal. FIFA keeps the revenue from TV rights, tickets, corporate sponsorships and marketing. Brazil gets to keep, in my estimate, around $500 million from tourist spending. That's not a very favorable equation. " "It will all be over in a few weeks and the Brazilian government will have a massive bill to pay both to its bondholders and to its people. The party's hangover is coming."
[URL]http://time.com/2930699/world-cup-brazil-spending/[/URL]

Another article on WC costs:
"In terms of long-run development potential, of most concern to economists is the $3.6 billion in total spending on the 12 new and refurbished stadiums that are being used for the event. The overwhelming conclusion of scholarly research on the subject of stadiums and arenas is that they provide little to no long-term economic benefits. " "Before the Cup, Reuters reported that Brazil only delivered half of the projects it pledged, and many of them didn't finish in time for the Cup. Brazil is now left with half of the planned general infrastructure benefits but all of the planned costs. " "At the very least, the country is left with 12 new state-of-the-art soccer stadiums. From a development standpoint, the only thing worse than an expensive, publicly financed stadium is an empty, expensive, publicly financed stadium."
[URL]http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/were-the-billions-brazil-spent-on-world-cup-stadiums-worth-it/[/URL]

And they still have the costs of the Olympics to add.

7 to 1, hilarious!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1592096]7 to 1, hilarious![/QUOTE]I'd call it sad.

I was in a house full of Brazilians today for the game. I am not brazilian, and even I felt embarassed. I felt bad to see my friends in a state of shock. God forbid they meet Argentina for third place on Saturday, and lose that one too. Heads will be bashed in Copacabana beach:).

I was in a beach bar full of hot assed Brazilian women (and a few guys too, I guess), and to their credit, after the game, they partied even harder to electronic music.

This does validate my idea that the Germanic (and perhaps Italian) Brazilians in Rio Grande do Sul are perhaps the best place in the world to be -- the only Brazilians who could cheer today's soccer result.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1592140]I was in a house full of Brazilians today for the game. I am not brazilian, and even I felt embarassed. I felt bad to see my friends in a state of shock. God forbid they meet Argentina for third place on Saturday, and lose that one too. Heads will be bashed in Copacabana beach:).[/QUOTE]

There's still "work" to be done!

[URL]http://www.buzzfeed.com/mrloganrhoades/fires-looting-and-mass-robbery-have-started-in-brazil-after[/URL]

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-28222612[/URL]

[QUOTE=PatmarBeleza1;1592164]I was in a beach bar full of hot assed Brazilian women (and a few guys too, I guess), and to their credit, after the game, they partied even harder to electronic music.

This does validate my idea that the Germanic (and perhaps Italian) Brazilians in Rio Grande do Sul are perhaps the best place in the world to be -- the only Brazilians who could cheer today's soccer result.[/QUOTE]I remember being in the Rocincha watching brazil lose to France in the semi a few years back with some friends. Yes, they partied like if they had won. But yesterday's loss was different. Its not the fact that they lost, its how they lost, and at home. Its just a game:).

Per Oglobo, 26 buses were burned in SP last night, (17 of which were out of circulation due to old age,) and a Ponto Frio store was ransacked.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/sao-paulo/noticia/2014/07/sp-registra-ataques-onibus-na-capital-e-em-duas-cidades-da-regiao.html[/URL]

I was on the streets of Copa immediately after Argentina beat the Netherlands. It was pretty quiet other than a few Argentina fans celebrating in the streets. Went to dinner at a popular restaurant and was surprised by how few people were there. On TV they were rehashing the loss and repeating often the embarrassment felt by Brazilians. On the way out of Copa, traffic was light. Many times during normal times it has been much heavier.

I am in a very lucky situation. I was introduced to a female on Facebook thru a mutual friend. This woman works for TAM and she has offered to buy me a ticket to fly to brasil to visit her. Now I haven't been to brasil in almost 4 years, so my visa has expired. My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1593314]I am in a very lucky situation. I was introduced to a female on Facebook thru a mutual friend. This woman works for TAM and she has offered to buy me a ticket to fly to brasil to visit her. Now I haven't been to brasil in almost 4 years, so my visa has expired. My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?[/QUOTE]That is no longer the case. They give you a 10 year visa and you can start using it whenever you want.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1593363]That is no longer the case. They give you a 10 year visa and you can start using it whenever you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mr E, that is great news!! I remember before you had to show that you had purchased a ticket and you had to fly within 30 days of the visa being issued. Its nice to know that things have changed.

Where in the world is Ray Whelan? Definitely not at the Copacabana Palace anymore!

[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2689454/Ray-Whelan-not-fugitive-insist-FIFA-official-ticket-hospitality-firm-MATCH.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/watch-british-fugitive-ray-whelan-3844428[/URL]

No one of color was at the World Cup either at Maracanã or Fan Fest. This included the favela rats. Though a friend of mine did get robbed of her cell phone waiting in line at Fan Fest. Police were everywhere and when a fight broke out at Fan Fest reinforcements were quick to arrive. German Chancellor, Merkel, was happier than I have ever seen her. German fans are the most respectful on the planet. While Brazilians were suggesting that Argentineans get the hell out of their city, the Germans celebrated quietly. A lot of people paid way too much to stay in a cramped crappy places. I have to admit I kind of enjoyed reminding them. Brazil really knows how to throw a house party even if the sod, lawn ornaments and driveway was not finished when you arrived. The Kiosk next to Fan Fest where I sat drinking a 6 Reais Caipirinha watching the installation of the countdown to World Cup clock still charged 6 Reais during the World Cup. I like these people.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1593314]... My question to the board is this. Do I have to have a plane ticket in my hand when I go to the embassy to apply for a visa? If I remember correctly, you had to have proof that you were flying to brasil within 2 weeks in order to be granted a visa, is that still the case?[/QUOTE]Bravo,

I believe proof of airline reservation is still required along with your visa application, passport, photos and fees. It is best to check the requirements at the Brazilian Consulate serving your state because they are not uniform in administration.

Yep! This about sums it up!

Note: This was a follow up to a post in the Rio Thread entitled [B]"Pfffooou... What a relief!!!"[/B] That should have been placed here.‏..

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1594221]No one of color was at the World Cup either at Maracan or Fan Fest. This included the favela rats. Though a friend of mine did get robbed of her cell phone waiting in line at Fan Fest. Police were everywhere and when a fight broke out at Fan Fest reinforcements were quick to arrive. German Chancellor, Merkel, was happier than I have ever seen her. German fans are the most respectful on the planet. While Brazilians were suggesting that Argentineans get the hell out of their city, the Germans celebrated quietly. A lot of people paid way too much to stay in a cramped crappy places. I have to admit I kind of enjoyed reminding them. Brazil really knows how to throw a house party even if the sod, lawn ornaments and driveway was not finished when you arrived. The Kiosk next to Fan Fest where I sat drinking a 6 Reais Caipirinha watching the installation of the countdown to World Cup clock still charged 6 Reais during the World Cup. I like these people.[/QUOTE]How pathetic that Brazil are celebrating an Argentinian loss-grow up. And worry about your own pathetic excuse of a national team and shambles of a football infrastructure in general.

Bad News. I went to the Brazilian consulate in NY today to apply for a tourist Visa. I had my passport, 2 pictures and my money order for 160 bucks. It turns out, you definitely do need proof of a purchased airline ticket!! I wasted 3 hours for nothing because I have not purchased my airline ticket yet.

WORSE News. When the Brazilian consulate was in the Rockefeller Center area, you could get your visa very quickly. You dropped it off and it was ready for you to pick up the very next day. The consulate has since moved, it is near Grand central on 42nd street. Now there is a 3-5 fucking business day wait for the visa to be processed and returned to you!!

Wow. When I got my visa last year in Atlanta I didn't need a ticket. I think my appointment was at noon and I had to go back after 3 pm the same day to pick it up.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1594941]Bad News. I went to the Brazilian consulate in NY today to apply for a tourist Visa. I had my passport, 2 pictures and my money order for 160 bucks. It turns out, you definitely do need proof of a purchased airline ticket!! I wasted 3 hours for nothing because I have not purchased my airline ticket yet.

WORSE News. When the Brazilian consulate was in the Rockefeller Center area, you could get your visa very quickly. You dropped it off and it was ready for you to pick up the very next day. The consulate has since moved, it is near Grand central on 42nd street. Now there is a 3-5 fucking business day wait for the visa to be processed and returned to you!![/QUOTE]I have gotten two visas recently and did not need an itinerary for either of them. Also, they were processed in one day.

Also, even though not in their jurisdiction my visa was processed through NY and the other one was also.

I remember specifically asking the service about the travel itinerary requirement and was told not to worry about it.

Now I see that it is clearly on their website and also that those with World Cup event tickets do not need a tourist visa.

It could be that this now being required again (it was for my first visa) because of the demand for World Cup visas and only wanting to process visas for people with an actual need to travel.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1594950]Wow. When I got my visa last year in Atlanta I didn't need a ticket. I think my appointment was at noon and I had to go back after 3 pm the same day to pick it up.[/QUOTE]Another board member told me the same thing (He didn't need a ticket). I am assuming that different consulates locations have different rules. I would think there would be uniformity, but evidently, there isn't. In NY, you must have your itinerary when you submit your application for a tourist visa.

Renewals might be different than 1st time applicants.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1594738]How pathetic that Brazil are celebrating an Argentinian loss-grow up. And worry about your own pathetic excuse of a national team and shambles of a football infrastructure in general.[/QUOTE]Sorry mate. If you knew anything of Brasilians and the World Cup you'd realise how way off beam that is. At the final, every Brasilian was German. They are still still talking about Germany with great warmth. Great hospitality was also offered to the Argentine fans. But the German team made a big effort to get to know Brasil before the match and it was reciprocated. Feelings between Argentina and Brasil are historic. It was quite a beautiful poster of support for Brasil that the German fans dsiplayed.

Even before the final match there had been a number of stories about the kindness and generosity of German fans and players making the rounds among my Brazilian friends. Here are a couple examples.

[URL]http://video.xin.msn.com/watch/video/german-fans-spread-world-cup-joy-to-favela-kids/2lgx1yygf?preview=true&sf=Relevancy[/URL]

[URL]http://metro.co.uk/2014/07/16/mesut-ozil-makes-incredible-gesture-after-donating-world-cup-bonus-to-brazilian-projects-4800500/[/URL]

Instead of rubbing their 7-1 victory in the face of Brazilians, the interactions I heard were apologetic and started with how much they respected the Brazilian football tradition and how much they were enjoying the World Cup in Brazil. While here the German fans and players endeared themselves to Brazilians. The Argentineans. Not so much.

HOLY SHIT!! I haven't been to Brasil in almost 4 years, however, I might be headed down next week for a quick trip. I called my old time connection for an apartment (I have been renting from him since 1998) and the prices for his apartments have gone thru the roof. His small 1 bedroom apartment near the Cantagalo metro stop is $125 fucking dollars a night! It used to be 40 bucks a night!! Its small as hell with no WIFI and no Cable TV! I was in shock when he told me how much he wanted!!

Can anyone from the board hook me up with a good connection? It doesn't have to be beach front, but since its winter in Brasil, I expect a much better price than 125 dollars a night for a small ass apartment with no Wifi or cable!! Post links here or feel free to PM me if you want! Thanks in advance!!

I made a really stupid mistake this week that could have bit me in the ass, hopefully others can learn from it.

I went to the Brazilian Consulate on Monday to get a new Visa. I learned that I needed to have an itinerary to submit with the money order, picture and forms. I got up and left because I didn't have a ticket to show to the agent.

This morning, I called BACC (Travel agency that specializes in discount tickets for Brazil) in order to book a trip to Brazil. While the agent was looking Thur. Different airlines and dates, she casually asked me if I had my Visa. I told her that I needed to buy a plane ticket so I could take it to the consulate and get a visa. She told me "Oh no! I can just issue you an itinerary and you can take that with you. Don't buy a ticket now because you may not get your visa in time for you to go on the trip!

All these years, I thought an "Itinerary" was a print out of your actual ticket and reservations. I had no idea that it was a trip that you were planning on taking, not an actual ticket. Sure enough, I took that paper with the suggested dates and flights and they accepted it. I am picking up my Visa in 2 business days.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1596344]I made a really stupid mistake this week that could have bit me in the ass, hopefully others can learn from it.

I went to the Brazilian Consulate on Monday to get a new Visa. I learned that I needed to have an itinerary to submit with the money order, picture and forms. I got up and left because I didn't have a ticket to show to the agent.

This morning, I called BACC (Travel agency that specializes in discount tickets for Brazil) in order to book a trip to Brazil. While the agent was looking Thur. Different airlines and dates, she casually asked me if I had my Visa. I told her that I needed to buy a plane ticket so I could take it to the consulate and get a visa. She told me "Oh no! I can just issue you an itinerary and you can take that with you. Don't buy a ticket now because you may not get your visa in time for you to go on the trip!..[/QUOTE]And make sure you use the visa by actually entering brazil in 90 days or the visa becomes invalid and you have to submit a new application with a new fee.

[QUOTE=RockTimes;1596404]And make sure you use the visa by actually entering brazil in 90 days or the visa becomes invalid and you have to submit a new application with a new fee.[/QUOTE]Brasil is now issuing Americans 10 yr. Visas (in reciprocity for us issuing them 10 yr. USA Visas for all these many years). AND when they hand you back your passport with your shiny new visa in it, the visa is active. The first entry within 90 days ordeal was the old way of business.

Is it still around 60-70R for a taxi from the airport to Copa? A brasilian told me it was around 100 R now, but I don't know whether she really knew or was just throwing a number out there.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1598071]Is it still around 60-70R for a taxi from the airport to Copa? A brasilian told me it was around 100 R now, but I don't know whether she really knew or was just throwing a number out there.[/QUOTE]The most you should pay is 60 R. It does depend if you arrive on Sunday or after 9:00 when banda 2 is in effect. It is 1.95 per large bag. When I last came in before the World Cup there was a guy on the departure floor procuring taxis. He was very helpful including helping with my bags. He never asked but I gave him a 5 because I have a soft spot for people who actually do their jobs. You can negotiate a better rate if you go to the arrival floor because taxis are looking for return fares (which is what all the Brazilians do) but the hassle of waiting in line for the elevator really is not worth the difference.

Calculate your taxi fare by going to this site. Just enter your locations. Works in many Brazilian cities. In Portuguese.

[URL]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/URL]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1598127]Calculate your taxi fare by going to this site. Just enter your locations. Works in many Brazilian cities. In Portuguese.

[URL]http://www.tarifadetaxi.com/rio-de-janeiro[/URL][/QUOTE]That is fucking cool! I have never seen that before, thanks! Says it should be a little more than 50 R to Copa, so if I offer 60 R at arrivals, I should get a quick acceptance.

I just showed this program to the brasilian girl I am going to go visit. She swears that every taxi is asking for 100R to Copa. Despite the fact that I told her "You have to remember, you arrived during the World Cup! So everyone was ripping off Gringos!: But she swears that I am wrong and dont know what I am talking about! LOL! We will see.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1598142]That is fucking cool! I have never seen that before, thanks! Says it should be a little more than 50 R to Copa, so if I offer 60 R at arrivals, I should get a quick acceptance.

I just showed this program to the brasilian girl I am going to go visit. She swears that every taxi is asking for 100R to Copa. Despite the fact that I told her "You have to remember, you arrived during the World Cup! So everyone was ripping off Gringos!: But she swears that I am wrong and dont know what I am talking about! LOL! We will see.[/QUOTE]
You're both right.
The correct fare should be maximum R$55 (bandeira 1, normal traffic) if the taxi use the taximeter. The taxi-booths at Galeão and many drivers at the arrival section will try to charge you R$100 or even more.
If you act cool at departure floor you'll get a taxi ride to Copa paying R$50. The driver will be happy not leaving Galeão empty. Just do it discreetly so the fiscals don't see you.

The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.

I obviously got departures (upper floor with taxis returning to Copa, etc.) switched with arrivals (lower floor) in a previous post.

Make over 10 trips a year and must say that taxis no longer are trying to get over and this last time was right before the World Cup final. The taxis to watch out for (which is included in the taxi fare program) are the radio taxis. The key is to ask them to use the taximeter.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1598174]You're both right.


The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.[/QUOTE]Thats exactly what I was thinking. If nobody at Departures wants my 60 R, I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1598394]Thats exactly what I was thinking. If nobody at Departures wants my 60 R, I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.[/QUOTE]
Head right when leaving the exit on the arrival floor. Almost at the end. Ask for the "frescão".

I understand the airport buses situation has changed. I don't begrudge 55 Rs too much if I'm tired.

[URL]http://www.aeroportogaleao.net/en/galeao-airport-bus-service[/URL]

Or the shuttle if I'm staying in Centro.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1598394]I will just hop on a bus! I just have to find out where the buses are at the airport.[/QUOTE]Beginning of the year, I used the bus service, fare had increased since my previous trip, cost $R12, IIRC. Took the one headed to Zona Sul, made stops in Centro, and Santos Dumont, and Gloria, before heading to Copa. Took over an hour due to traffiic. 4 yrs ago that bus ride was MUCH cheaper! It maybe more now.

They are also suggesting using the Metro now, in conjunction with the new BRT bus:

"Passengers traveling from the airport to the Zona Sul are encouraged to get the BRT to Vicente de Carvalho and then take the metro (subway) from there," although I am not convinced (only Rs3 plus your Metro fare for anyone that's interested). I think the Real Bus to Zona Sul is Rs13.50. Also if you use the shuttle to Santos Dumont (12 Rs) then the set fare for a taxi is apparently Rs23-28.

Here's the links.

[URL]http://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/rio-real-estate/brt-transcarioca-opens-linking-barra-to-galeao-airport/[/URL]

[URL]http://www.realautoonibus.com.br/Site/NossasLinhas-Premium-00[/URL], REAL68983320121012131824-95. Html.

[URL]http://www.viagensvamosnessa.com.br/2014/01/alternativas-de-transfer-entre-o.html[/URL]

As it's a General Info thread, might as well add the info for Sao Paulo's main airport, just to keep all the transit stuff in one place.

Rs38 gets you (by bus) to a couple of useful Metro stations (Tiete or Barra Funda) or a choice of two downtown destinations (Republica also has a main metro stop; Paulista has three, but I don't know how close it drops you there). If you really want to save money and don't have too much luggage, a local (cheap) bus will drop you from the airport to Tucuruvi, on the end of the Metro system. A taxi will normally be as little as Rs70-80 to Republica / Paulista but over Rs100 at night or if using special taxis. Hope that helps.

[URL]http://www.aeroportoguarulhos.net/transporte-onibus-aeroporto-guarulhos[/URL]

[URL]http://www.orbitapublicidade.com.br/linhas/linhas.aspx[/URL]

[URL]http://www.metro.sp.gov.br/pdf/mapa-da-rede-metro.pdf[/URL]

[URL]http://www.taxiautofare.com/br/Default.aspx?LocationID=178&Distance=31.127&Source=guarulhos%20airport&Destination=paulista&Time=1963[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1598174]You're both right.
The correct fare should be maximum R$55 (bandeira 1, normal traffic) if the taxi use the taximeter. The taxi-booths at Galeo and many drivers at the arrival section will try to charge you R$100 or even more.
If you act cool at departure floor you'll get a taxi ride to Copa paying R$50. The driver will be happy not leaving Galeo empty. Just do it discreetly so the fiscals don't see you.

The majority of the taxidrivers at most airports in Brazil are sharks trying to overcharge. Luckily most airports have excellent bus connections.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.

I see that Independence Day in Brazil, Sept. 7, is on a Sunday this year. Does that mean that Monday Sept. 8, will be a holiday for everybody?

I'm planning my arrival / departure schedule and am trying to figure out if the termas, MC / Solarium /4 x4 will be open on Monday the 8th. I know that they're all closed on Sunday. Obrigadu!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1598585]Totally agree, except there are a number of drivers now starting to be dicks about the are $1. 95 per "baggage item" that they are allowed to charge when coming from airports. I had one guy do it to me coming back after a 25+ hour trip from China, and he even counted my duty free bags. I was too tired to argue and my bag was in his trunk / boot, so I couldn't just pay and dash. Just a heads up.[/QUOTE]Damn, that taxi driver was an asshole. Luckily, I didn't have any issues. I went up to the arrival area, saw an Taxi SUV and asked him to take me to Copa using the meter. It ended up being around 55 R. No extra charge for the three bags I had or my duty free bags either.

Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in São Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in São Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1602818]Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually it's now R$30/ programa.

Generally both these places are pretty low rent.

I've been stopping by these buildings occassionally for years, and have even got to know most of the Tias (madams) that run each apartment.

Every once in a while though, a gem can be found.

I've found a few and have had some real GFE, especially when we've met up outside.

Be careful though, the area, especially after dark, can be sketchy.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1602818]Interesting reportage about the working rules for the GPs in Rua dos Andradas 69 in So Paulo. "69" and Edificio Itatiaia are two most famous trash-buildings in So Paulo. Both building has about 10 floors with 4 casas/floor. R$20/programa.
[URL]http://noticias.r7.com/cidade-alerta/videos/o-predio-do-sexo-casa-de-prostituicao-atrai-clientes-no-centro-de-sao-paulo-30062014[/URL][/QUOTE]Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1603121]Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.[/QUOTE]It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1603191]It's been closed for some time now. They moved across the street to #80 per GPGuia. Per Sperto it's not like the ole 85. Only 2 reviews from late last year, both negative on GPGuia. Most recent post on HotForum is from Feb 2014, (Not a TD).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. Think I will not check it out.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1603121]Reminds me of Buenos Aires 85 in Rio. That being said, I passed by Buenos Aires 85 on Thursday around 5:30 pm, and it was closed. Chains and lock outside the door.[/QUOTE]The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent privée that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1605618]The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]The whole description you just gave in the last post about getting off metro, walking 50 yds, and the whole bit. That's what I just did today. Where you following me, LOL!

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1605618]The thing I liked about BA85 was the sense almost of a party atmosphere, as well as excellent value that could be had. Andrade 69, for anyone who likes exploring the trashy venues and goes thru to SP for biz, is much bigger. (I've just mentioned it on the SP thread.) Quality can vary a lot. I've seen stunners walk in, but you can also climb 11 floors on another day and not find anything remotely attractive. Very "grabby", like the Rio Uriguiana trash walk-up. If you are carrying a bag, you have to check it in at security on ground floor before you go up. Much louder is S. P. 's Alameida Barao de Limeira 134, music blaring into the street, but a longer walk from the Metro. Same deal, with a very large number of floors (great if you don't mind a lot of steps). At least in Rio's downtown you can get of the Metro, walk 50 yards, go up an elevator and find a decent prive that's as clean as a dentist's waiting room with girls to match, go down and have a good lunch, then head to the beach. It would be nice to have a few more well-populated trashy walk-ups (there's still some in North Centro, the area north of Vargas on the way to Maua, but sparse) but then they have maybe had their heyday. With a beautiful city such as Rio, good p4 p at a reasonable price and obtained with reasonable ease, is just the reasonably available icing on the cake.[/QUOTE]
I miss BA85. It used to be a good option when needing a quick and cheap session. I had many really beautiful GPs there. The only disadvantage were the lack of showers and the narrow spiral staircase.

Among the really trashy ones the options are becoming less. Several have closed: BA85, BA113 (no loss), R Carioca 44 (?)(the one on the second floor which I think you liked Chris) and R d Acre 120. The two casas on R Leandro Martins are still working but I havn't seen any nice GPs there the last years. R d Carioca 59 is still worth visiting but the gems are very rare. U24 is a good option when wanting to go sleazy and trashy. Several cute girls. Just a shame about the loud music, filthy cabins and the dark stairs.

The great with mongering in centro in Rio are the wide options. Expensive "robe-termas", topclass prives with nice suites, simple prives with cabins and showers in the hall and finally the Trashy ones. All gathered within 5-10 minutes walk from each other. That's quite unique. It's very convenient that you can take a bus/metro at 9AM, arrive in centro 15 minutes later, 15 minutes more and you are starting a 30 minutes-session. By 10AM you have released your load and 30 minutes later you can sit down at the beach drinking an ice-cold Matte Leão and enjoying the sun.

This year's line up.

[URL]http://fotografia.folha.uol.com.br/galerias/27797-miss-bumbum-2014[/URL]#foto-427351.

A few of them have faces like a horse but focus on the lower half of the body. I like the look of Miss Rondonia.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;1607358]This year's line up. [URL]http://fotografia.folha.uol.com.br/galerias/27797-miss-bumbum-2014[/URL]#foto-427351.
A few of them have faces like a horse but focus on the lower half of the body. I like the look of Miss Rondonia.[/QUOTE]Is it that time of year again?

Better pics at: [URL]http://www.excelsior.com.mx/global/2014/08/12/975743[/URL]#imagen-2.

The official site is currently down: [URL]http://missbumbumbrasil.com.br/[/URL].

This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as [URL]GPGuia.net[/URL] from outside Brazil.

[URL]http://brazilproxy.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Christopherd;1607783]This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as [URL]GPGuia.net[/URL] from outside Brazil.

[URL]http://brazilproxy.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you very much Christopherd.

What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1609602]What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.[/QUOTE]Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?

[QUOTE=AdsuchWow;1609628]On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?[/QUOTE]Unlicensed and unregulated. Local Authorities have allowed them to police themselves. I remember a post, a few years back, did not end well, with broken bones, long hospital stay and recovery period. Last year, I think, a relative to a Brazilian singer was killed. There was talk of imposing regulations and licensing. Not sure what became of that. It being Brazil, proceed at your own risk. The GDP's should give you enough of a thrill.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1609602]What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.[/QUOTE]I usually spend a couple of months a year in Rio, and I rarely, if ever catch a cold there. That being said, if I do get sick, its usually a stomach thing for just a couple of days. I do not know to what extent it helps, but I know that it helps to always have and use antibacterial gel or wipes. I usually take the individual "Wet Ones" wipes. They work like a charm. Especially after riding on the metro and grabbing the handles or pole for stability. Those things are nasty.

Another sugestion is to always have one of the smaller listerine size bottle with you. So after you finish a session at your favorite spot, wash and rinse right away. Just a couple of habitual things that I practice that contributes to avoiding getting run down by whatever is out there. Boa Sorte!

[QUOTE=AdsuchWow;1609628]Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.riohanggliding.com/reservations[/URL]

Check out there website for FAQ. Has all the info. You need if you want to give it a shot. I used them a while back. Good Luck!!

[QUOTE=AdsuchWow;1609628]Same deal for me. Have been twice and both times got sick. Once from a girl, once form the plane. This time I am going to LOAD UP on Emergency-see and any other preventative measure I can think of. My only thoughts are that when I have been in Rio I have typically attacked the city like a mad man and have just worn my immunity system down to the point that I am susceptible.

On another note, thinking of hang gliding while there. Has anyone done this?[/QUOTE]It is a lot of fun and a great experience. Contrary to what most people who have never been to Rio think, it is rare to see a girl sunbathing topless on the beach. Even mulatas like tan lines. When I went there was girl sunbathing topless on the beach below. I asked the instructor how close he could get to her. He laughed and said very close. He did.

The only scary part of the experience was the number of times we ran to the edge of the cliff and stopped because there was not enough wind. Once you are in the air, it is amazing. I know a guide who used to take people. He is not an instructor but speaks English and could advise you on the best ones. I will check to see if he is still doing it and if so, PM you with his contact info.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1609602]What is it about the germs in Brazil? Holy shit!!

I rarely get sick in America. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have been sick in the past 10 years. Normally, it takes 2-3 days for the cold or flu to work its way out of my system. (I don't even bother to take medicine when I am sick because I know it will pass soon).

However, the past 4 trips to brasil, I have caught horrendous colds. They last 3-4 weeks long! Painful chests coughs, rib cracking sneezing and we won't even talk about the runny noses. I bombard my system with Advil, Dristan and cough medicine, none of it does any good. No matter what I do, I can't shake this cold. 4th trip in a row that this has happened.[/QUOTE]Every time I'm in Brasil I get a stomach bug or a mini-flu. It is after all a tropical climate and the food-hygiene is a lot lower than in Europe.

Water shd be bottled and ice is usually dirty + churrascos can be bad. I got really sick for 5 days in Minas Gerais after eating at a BBQ right before it closed!

Won't be doing that again!

Hey its an involuntary diet so all the drinks I consume and junk -I actually come back thinner-well the gap work out at night and Formula Gym in morning also helps!

Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9[/URL]

[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1617103]Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9[/URL][/QUOTE]
Wonderful comments on the article, no 1 and 3 (filho da puta...). :)

[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1617103]Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9[/URL][/QUOTE]Vogue Club for swingers in Barra de Tijuca. $R130 cover for single guys, ($R250 cover on Sat.) Couples $R70 before 1130p, $R100 thereafter, ($R90 and $R110 respectively on Sat.) No GDP's allowed, (how they going to know.)

[URL]www.voguerio.com.br/programacao-rio.htm[/URL]

World Cup was bad business for the GPs in Rio.

The study was made by Laboratório de Etnografia Metropolitana da Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (try to print all that on a business card). The study was made on 83 GP locations in Rio, including Vila Mimosa. On 60 locations the business fell between 30-50% during the WC. Explanations are many holidays closing centro venues, South-American tourists with little money to spend, high costs left no money to spend on P4P and single men preferring to drink with friends instead of mongering. Copacabana had a rise of GPs working the orla.

[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/copa-do-mundo-foi-considerada-ruim-pelas-prostitutas-no-rio-de-janeiro-13831773[/URL]

[QUOTE=Carlos3000;1617103]Gents, WAPO just did a big expo on sex in Brazil. The following is the URL:

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/what-a-prostitutes-tale-tells-us-about-sex-and-a-womans-role-in-the-new-brazil/2014/09/04/86285214-2e2c-11e4-bb9b-997ae96fad33_story.html?hpid=z9[/URL][/QUOTE]I just read that article. I pretty strongly disagree with its assertions relating to the dichotomy between a highly sexualized image publically but very conservative privately. There are lots of non-GPD women in Brazil who ready and willing to be sexual on relatively short notice, ie. Sex on first date. Like most other countries, there are women who put out only after making the man jump through dozens of high hoops. But I think there are fewer of them in Brazil than in, say, the US.

After some thought, the article seems more like spin to bolster the reputations of Brazilian women. In my opinion, their reputations DO NOT need any bolstering!

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1617275] No GDP's allowed, (how they going to know.)

[URL]www.voguerio.com.br/programacao-rio.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1617635]They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.[/QUOTE]I am not expert of swingers club, but I suppose you use condom everytime there, as you will be fucking with unknown women and not with your couple (real or GDP).

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1617635]They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.[/QUOTE]By the time they see you with a condom it's way too late, you're already in.

They may screen you if you're old and your girl is 18, I've seen this and it is very obvious what is going on.

I'm old but when I go to a swing club in Rio I try to go with a gdp who doesn't look that young and if it's my first time with her I will get our story straight and I have never had a problem bringing a gdp into a swing club in Rio or from what I have seen nobody else has either.

This place looks new, I will keep it on my radar on an upcoming trip.

[QUOTE=AlbertPunter;1617644]I am not expert of swingers club, but I suppose you use condom everytime there, as you will be fucking with unknown women and not with your couple (real or GDP).[/QUOTE]Yes, condom use is required. Usually, only bare activity is a BJ. Change condoms when exchanging partners, and when going from the front door to the back, (if permitted.)

[QUOTE=Sperto;1617378]World Cup was bad business for the GPs in Rio.
The study was made by Laboratrio de Etnografia Metropolitana da Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (try to print all that on a business card). The study was made on 83 GP locations in Rio, including Vila Mimosa. On 60 locations the business fell between 30-50% during the WC. Explanations are many holidays closing centro venues, South-American tourists with little money to spend, high costs left no money to spend on P4P and single men preferring to drink with friends instead of mongering. Copacabana had a rise of GPs working the orla.

[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/sociedade/copa-do-mundo-foi-considerada-ruim-pelas-prostitutas-no-rio-de-janeiro-13831773[/URL][/QUOTE]On that note, I'd bet the Olympics will have similar results.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1617635]They can easily tell by seeing the 'couple' has sex with condom while every other couple is barebacking. They could also easily figure when a man opens his mouth and see he is a not a native Portuguese speaker.[/QUOTE]In Sao Paulo swing clubs barebacking is forbitten!

[QUOTE=AltoBomGosto;1617692]In Sao Paulo swing clubs barebacking is forbitten![/QUOTE]I think the point he was making was that if you are having bareback sex then the woman is probably your wife or girlfriend not a gdp. I've seen this before, I once swapped with a couple, he was banging his chick bareback and had no condoms with him. When he went to insert in my girl she turned around to me and asked me for a condom.

For sure nobody goes bareback in a swing club unless you're banging your own girl.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1617703]I think the point he was making was that if you are having bareback sex then the woman is probably your wife or girlfriend not a gdp. I've seen this before, I once swapped with a couple, he was banging his chick bareback and had no condoms with him. When he went to insert in my girl she turned around to me and asked me for a condom.

For sure nobody goes bareback in a swing club unless you're banging your own girl.[/QUOTE]When I was there, no bareback sex only bareback BJ is allowed. That is confirm and woudn't want to risk myself too. The ladies are great too. Will be heading there again soon in Nov.

Maybe somebody else is looking for flight tickets within Brazil?

The last month I've been checking national flight tickets (TAM and GOL) for my trip Dezember-March. As always the prices varies a lot. One day can be about 7 times more expensive than the day after.
By some reason today, 1st of October, many low prices appeared on all my chosen destinations on the dates I wanted to travel. Really bargain prices, even cheaper than bus tickets.

Be quick and buy!

i used to date a girl in barra who told me that this was common in rio, i always thought she was just giving me some bs story until i read this article. she said it was normal for police to kidnap drug dealers and then call the head honcho of the favela and ask for a ransom. if the gang they were from didn't pay or the price they offered was too low, the police would just call the favela they were at war with and offer to sell the drug dealer to them. (she also told me that the police would sell drugs and weapons that they confirep001ed from one favela to another favela).

i read this article today and it backs up everything she used to tell me. a whole police unit was busted for this activity.

[url]http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/brasil/secretaria-desmantela-balcao-de-negocios-de-pms-na-ilha-do-governador[/url]

[quote=bravo;1633085]i used to date a girl in barra who told me that this was common in rio, i always thought she was just giving me some bs story until i read this article. she said it was normal for police to kidnap drug dealers and then call the head honcho of the favela and ask for a ransom. if the gang they were from didn't pay or the price they offered was too low, the police would just call the favela they were at war with and offer to sell the drug dealer to them. (she also told me that the police would sell drugs and weapons that they confirep001ed from one favela to another favela).

i read this article today and it backs up everything she used to tell me. a whole police unit was busted for this activity.

[url]http://veja.abril.com.br/noticia/brasil/secretaria-desmantela-balcao-de-negocios-de-pms-na-ilha-do-governador[/url][/quote]this is old news. police have been doing this for years bro.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=333666550084964&set=vb.304157456369207&type=2&theater[/URL]

Anyone know the name of the group the last 2 min?

[QUOTE=Auriflama;1634065][URL]https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=333666550084964&set=vb.304157456369207&type=2&theater[/URL]

Anyone know the name of the group the last 2 min?[/QUOTE]Timbalada.

I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see. I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.

[QUOTE=Mexicano1208;1636469]I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see. I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.[/QUOTE]Most language schools in portuguese are decent and cheap cause not many use them. English is expensive. Rio can be cheap but depends if you go to the tourist traps or you don't mind bargain hunting. Also my idea of gostoza may not be another gringo's,which tend to work in my favour.

I'm touching down all of November to bang out.

[QUOTE=Mexicano1208;1636469]I want to go to Brazil to enhanced my Portuguese. I can already communicate at an average rate, but want to make it stronger. Do you guys have any recommendations? Besides learning more about the language I also want some extracurricular activities I have been to Rio, but now it is too expensive. I was in Rio in 2006 and had a blast. I was in Rio again last year and man what a change. The prices are plain expensive. I have also been to Fortaleza and Manaus but was not impress with the mongering scene. [b]I was told to stay away from Salvador since it is just a dirty city and not much to see.[/b] I hope someone has some good ideas and maybe the names of some schools.[/QUOTE]I would like to know who told you to stay away from Salvador and why. I have been to Salvador 6 or 7 times since 1999, though my last time was in 2006. Salvador was the original capital of Brazil. The original government buildings are still standing (or were in 2006) though they are not well kept. There is an Old City spit into Upper and Lower. The Upper Old City has many historic churches and includes the tourist neighborhood of Pelourinho. The Dutch invaded the city not long after its founding and held it for several years. Eventually the Portuguese fought for it back and a war was fought in the All Saints Bay. Wrecks of old ships are still at the bottom of that bay. It is not entirely safe to scuba dive in most of the bay because of the shipping traffic, but it may be possible to dive and see some of those wrecks.

There are many Portuguese schools in Salvador. The better ones teach Brazilian history and culture along with the language. They will give you assignments involving visiting historic sites, describing what you saw, explaining its significance, and telling what you learned from the visit. When you have learned enough Portuguese, you can explore the clubs and P4 P action.

Hey guys,

Thank you for the input. My Portuguese is good enough to monger around. I am fluent in Spanish and have studied Portuguese before. I just want to get better. George90 I heard the bad comment about Salvador in a website, but didn't believe it. I knew that someone in this site would clarify it. I have found a lot of Portuguese language schools in Salvador and I am tempted to try it. How is the mongering scene in Salvador? Is it better than in Rio? A plus for Rio it's their subway. You can use it and save money in Taxis.

[URL]http://www.geradorcpf.com/[/URL]

Thought some members might find this useful (tried and tested on purchases).

[QUOTE=Jan156;1607783]This would appear to be a good site if you want to access Brazil-only sites such as [URL]GPGuia.net[/URL] from outside Brazil.

[URL]http://brazilproxy.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the info!

Off topic. Looking at my brazilian amigas on their Facebooks they all love to do those ridiculous duck-faces, like they are going to do a beijo grego. Now the tendency seems to be sticking their tongues out when posing. What's wrong with just smiling? :)

[QUOTE=Sperto;1647134]Off topic. Looking at my brazilian amigas on their Facebooks they all love to do those ridiculous duck-faces, like they are going to do a beijo grego. Now the tendency seems to be sticking their tongues out when posing. What's wrong with just smiling? :)[/QUOTE]I HATE the "duck face or the sending a kiss face"! I think it looks incredibly stupid! Unfortunately, my ex would make that face in about 95% of her fotos. No matter how many times I told her "Just smile, stop making that dumb face, she would still do it!

I've noticed the tongue out of the mouth pose too. Especially when its more than one female, they will aim their tongues at each other. I don't find anything sexy about it at all. Hell, if you want to be sexy, flash your tits or show that thong!!

[QUOTE=Bravo;1538697]I was in MC with two girls in the room. One a big booty mulatta and the other, Porn star Kelly. The mulatta was sucking my dick while Kelly was kissing my neck. I stopped Kelly and pointed at my dick to let her know it was her turn to start sucking. That is when she did the X symbol with her fingers, kissed them and shook her head no.[/QUOTE]Bravo what was the deal with Kelly? Price number of shots? Where did you book her? I will be in Brazil soon, and would love to do her. Any info on her would be a big help man. She is my ultimate dream girl to do.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;1662375]Bravo what was the deal with Kelly? Price number of shots? Where did you book her? I will be in Brazil soon, and would love to do her. Any info on her would be a big help man. She is my ultimate dream girl to do.[/QUOTE]Sorry AL, this was damn near 7 years ago! She used to bounce around at different termas and would work at Help on the weekends. To be honest, she was terrible in bed! She was more interested in women, so she only fucked with men to make money. Since she didn't care for men, it showed in her performance! I haven't seen her in many years, no idea where she is now a days.

I just spent 3 days in Las Vegas. The best options were a massage and HJ for $150 or a Massage, BBBJ no swallow and FS for $230 usd. With the sex part lasting all of about 10 minutes and really shitty acting included. Oh baby, Oh baby. If would be better if she just shut up.

For that money you can have a playboy model in Centarus, bang her 3 times in the bunda and get 5 sloppy bjs from her. Or repeat all of this 3 times in Centro.

So, the worst days in Rio are way better than most of the best days in Las Vegas.

If you are in Brasil on vacation, spend all of your money and have a fucking good time, pun intended.

And do not waste one cent in Las Vegas. Although I did talk to a nice hooker in the casino and looking back I should have taken her, she was actually cute with a great body. I fucked up. There are almost all dogs in the casinos.

Look up every night and count your lucky stars you are in Brasil.

Enough crying, Enjoy Rio.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1670028]I just spent 3 days in Las Vegas. The best options were a massage and HJ for $150 or a Massage, BBBJ no swallow and FS for $230 usd. With the sex part lasting all of about 10 minutes and really shitty acting included. Oh baby, Oh baby. If would be better if she just shut up.

For that money you can have a playboy model in Centarus, bang her 3 times in the bunda and get 5 sloppy bjs from her. Or repeat all of this 3 times in Centro.

So, the worst days in Rio are way better than most of the best days in Las Vegas.

If you are in Brasil on vacation, spend all of your money and have a fucking good time, pun intended.

And do not waste one cent in Las Vegas. Although I did talk to a nice hooker in the casino and looking back I should have taken her, she was actually cute with a great body. I fucked up. There are almost all dogs in the casinos.

Look up every night and count your lucky stars you are in Brasil.

Enough crying, Enjoy Rio.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Great post!

Great perspective!

Look at this, in the news today:

CBS Sports analyst Greg Anthony — who played for six NBA teams, including the Knicks — was arrested Friday for soliciting a prostitute, according to Washington, the. See. Police.

LT. Kelvin Cusick told The Associated Press that Anthony was arrested at 5:46 pm On Friday. He said Anthony faces a misdemeanor solicitation charge that is punishable by up to 180 days in jail.

Poor guy wants to get a little, and they run a sting and bust him.

Most likely ending his broadcast career and destroying his personal life.

There are terrorist cells popping up in europe, and most likely hiding in the US as well, but they waste time busting guys for this.

Just great!

Yes, it's good to be in Brazil!

I thought I posted this already but guess it didn't go through. I am arriving on the 19th and need a room for 4 night. I really need just basic but clean with WiFi would be nice.

Thanks boys

Prime location, Av Atlantica, Copacabana. Equipment and furnishings for sale separately or as part of package.

[QUOTE=JoeyDude;1670395]I thought I posted this already but guess it didn't go through. I am arriving on the 19th and need a room for 4 night. I really need just basic but clean with WiFi would be nice.

Thanks boys[/QUOTE]Try the Ibis near Cardeal Arcoverde metro in Copacabana. It's right after carnval ends though, so might still be pricey.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1675170]Try the Ibis near Cardeal Arcoverde metro in Copacabana. It's right after carnval ends though, so might still be pricey.[/QUOTE]Wi-fi at Ibis is slower than an English pensioner after 3 pops in the Clinica in the rooms. You have to come downstairs in the lobby to use it really. It is girl-friendly though!

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1674925]Prime location, Av Atlantica, Copacabana. Equipment and furnishings for sale separately or as part of package.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the picture Balcony closed! In the past 5 times in Rio and every night in Balcony Bar many good souvenir.

Although the primary purpose of this forum is sex related, it is greatly appreciated that members take the time to provide helpful information which extends beyond that narrow topic. Thanks for taking the time to post and to Jackson for providing the platform.

Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1687377]Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.[/QUOTE]Doesn't some email to the effect of not being able to use the "in" instant messenger of the day anymore go around every year?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1687377]Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/internacional/en/brazil/2015/02/1595038-judge-bans-whatsapp-in-brazil-and-says-he-wants-app-to-contribute-with-police.shtml[/URL]

At least till a few minutes ago.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1687377]Is it true that the there will no longer be access to Whatsapp in Brazil? I had a few friends who are in a panic because they said the government will block access today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AlbertPunter;1687568]At least till a few minutes ago.[/QUOTE]Holy Frack! Almost spilled my coffee when I read this. Fear not, all is well. Simply inputting "whatsapp Brazil" into Google reveals that an Appeals judge stopped the original judges order. Original order was issued Feb 11, in the interim, 2. 5 million Brazilians joined Telegram, another messaging app.

[URL]http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/26/8116945/brazil-whatsapp-suspension-end-to-end-encryption[/URL]

Sync Whatsapp between your phone and computer. WhatsApp Web is a computer based extension of the WhatsApp account on your phone.

You need to use the latest version of Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox, or Opera as your web browser. You must first pair your phone and computer:

1. Visit web. [URL]https://web.whatsapp.com/[/URL] on your computer.

2. Open WhatsApp on your phone and go to Menu WhatsApp Web.

3. Scan the QR Code on your computer, using WhatsApp.

To avoid data usage charges on your phone, it's recommended that you are always connected to Wi-Fi when using WhatsApp Web.

[URL]http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/web/28080003[/URL]

What the price from Sao Paulo to Rio air flights round trip?

Looks like the girls in Macae are hurting because of the oil corruption situation in Brazil. (I read over 50 K people have lost their jobs). The GDPs used to make money hand over fist, now they are starving for business.

[URL]http://odia.ig.com.br/noticia/economia/2015-03-13/crise-do-petrolao-afeta-ate-prostituicao.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bravo;1693888]Looks like the girls in Macae are hurting because of the oil corruption situation in Brazil. (I read over 50 K people have lost their jobs). The GDPs used to make money hand over fist, now they are starving for business.

[URL]http://odia.ig.com.br/noticia/economia/2015-03-13/crise-do-petrolao-afeta-ate-prostituicao.html[/URL][/QUOTE]I spoke to the manager of a hotel in Macae the other day. He said it's a dead zone.

I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds.

I know there are trust-fund guys and super-wealthly tech guys who wouldn't bat an eye at that. I've been told that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. I went to public school (not the British kind) and have been supporting myself for 25+ years, so that's a different world to me I guess.

Just curious what my fellow board members think would be reasonable. I come back to my previous post about the 'instagram models' who are supposedly getting flown to Dubai for USD 25 K to do all sorts of nasty things for 2 days. I can't help thinking that maybe I am just missing out on some level of crazy sexcapades that I never dreamed of.

Not sure really how to justify that kind of expense.

What do you think?

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1694112]I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry. For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds. What do you think?[/QUOTE]I always go with my motto. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid! It's easy for me to pay my bills because I make sure I don't have many. I have virtually no debt. I contribute to two different pension funds, and I invest in a 401 K plan. Plus I have a money market account and a mutual fund account. That's what I feel I need to do in order to set myself up right financially for the future. And then, I'm fortunate enough to still have enough disposable income left over to take pretty Latina and European girls in all three holes. Everybody's circumstances are different, but I would start your inquiry by asking a different question. Before asking how much is it OK to spend on the tutes, I would ask how much money do you need to pay your bills and to save sufficiently for the future? Once you've done that analysis and you're successfully executing your long-term financial plan, then how much money you can spend on the tutes really answers itself. As much of what's left over as you would like to! Hehehehehe!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1694112]I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

For example, I have a hard time thinking I should spend, say, BRL 5 K per month on GDPs or even USD 5 K. Not that I couldn't spend it, but that I'd start to feel stupid for not sticking that money into mutual funds.

I know there are trust-fund guys and super-wealthly tech guys who wouldn't bat an eye at that. I've been told that if you have to ask, you can't afford it. I went to public school (not the British kind) and have been supporting myself for 25+ years, so that's a different world to me I guess.

Just curious what my fellow board members think would be reasonable. I come back to my previous post about the 'instagram models' who are supposedly getting flown to Dubai for USD 25 K to do all sorts of nasty things for 2 days. I can't help thinking that maybe I am just missing out on some level of crazy sexcapades that I never dreamed of.

Not sure really how to justify that kind of expense.

What do you think?[/QUOTE]Its difficult to compare as I don't live in Rio and only indulge when I am but I think money can be spent many ways in Rio-there are clearly bargains to be had but I have no doubt I would be spending 5 a month if I lived there. $.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1694112]I have been doing some pondering. If anyone wants to share, I'm curious about the following: what % of your monthly income (pre or post tax) do you think it's OK to spend -- or to reasonably spend -- on GDPs etc (or internet porn or whatever), without starting to worry.

What do you think?[/QUOTE]The other 2 posters gave you great advice on this, I would just like to add a few things. In the 80's I was working for Pan American World airways, I was young, single and I had free first class international travel at my fingertips and I didn't make a lot of money. I worked with other young people like myself who were conservative, didn't travel much, saved their money and were very careful. I on the other hand told myself that the position you are currently in is only going to happen now, that you won't be young for long or even single or work for an international airline where you can travel free all over the world.

So I travelled as much as I could sightseeing and mongering to Europe, Rio wherever and there were many trips I went on where I didn't have any money so I went to the credit union and borrowed so as not to miss the current oppurtunities. When I eventually left Pan Am on my own to make more money I was in debt but I had the time of my life of memories and mammaries that I will never forget. Sometimes I talk to my old colleages from Pan Am who were more conservative than me and they tell me they regret being so careful at the time and wished they had travelled more, I on the other hand feel I did the right thing and have no regrets at all, I lived it to the fullest.

So I guess what I'm saying is the answer to your question depends upon how long do you think you'll be able to do what you are currently doing because nothing lasts forever. Don't cut yourself short get it all in. So if you plan to live in Rio for a long time then you have plenty of time and you need to cover all bases save and monger but if you think you only have a few months left or a year then get it all in, always time to save later.

Hi guys,

I can't see the trees in the forest anymore with so much information on this great forum. So that's why I have a simply question.

I want nightlife, beach, unspoiled girls and a direct flight. Where I should go?

Anyone used the visa agencies shown below to get a visa to BraSil and are they reliable? Hate to waste anentire day fighting the traffic in order to get to the consulate.

[URL]http://cgwashington.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/submitting_through_a_travel_or_visa_agency.xml[/URL]

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1694527]Anyone used the visa agencies shown below to get a visa to BraSil and are they reliable? Hate to waste anentire day fighting the traffic in order to get to the consulate.

[URL]http://cgwashington.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/submitting_through_a_travel_or_visa_agency.xml[/URL]

Thanks[/QUOTE]Have used Its Easy multiple times and for different people in different jurisdictions and they always have come through ahead of promised date.

[URL]http://www.itseasy.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;1694292]I always go with my motto. [b]Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid![/b] It's easy for me to pay my bills because I make sure I don't have many. I have virtually no debt. I contribute to two different pension funds, and I invest in a 401 K plan. Plus I have a money market account and a mutual fund account. That's what I feel I need to do in order to set myself up right financially for the future. And then, I'm fortunate enough to still have enough disposable income left over to take pretty Latina and European girls in all three holes. Everybody's circumstances are different, but I would start your inquiry by asking a different question. Before asking how much is it OK to spend on the tutes, I would ask how much money do you need to pay your bills and to save sufficiently for the future? Once you've done that analysis and you're successfully executing your long-term financial plan, then how much money you can spend on the tutes really answers itself. As much of what's left over as you would like to! Hehehehehe![/QUOTE]

And an [U]excellent[/U] motto it is! I am adopting the ditty I bolded. It is very catchy!

Your bills get paid, your investments get made, [I]before[/I] you get laid!

[QUOTE=George90;1694985]And an [U]excellent[/U] motto it is! I am adopting the ditty I bolded. It is very catchy!

Your bills get paid, your investments get made, [I]before[/I] you get laid![/QUOTE]Romance with no finance is a damn nuisance!

I hopefully moved this discussion (which like the you can't turn a housewife into a garden implement one, seems to come up every two months) off the Rio Reports thread.

When Brazilians travel to Europe they adopt European ways unless you speak Portuguese and they enjoy your company. I have encountered many Brazilians around Europe and have gotten the same level of service as I have received in Brazil. Many places they actually control how much time they spend with you and if they are enjoying themselves they are in no hurry. I also have been in clubs where once the girls find out your speak Portuguese they will come by and say they don't usually do this or that but in your case they will. The best advice that anyone on this forum will ever give you is to learn Portuguese and not the guttural version claimed by some of the "experts. " If anyone who has made serious contributions wants to know where to find Brazilians throughout Europe, send me a PM.

As for comparisons, I hesitate to bring this up but do think the girls of the former USSR and Czechs are right up there.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1695132]
When Brazilians travel to Europe they adopt European ways unless you speak Portuguese and they enjoy your company. I have encountered many Brazilians around Europe and have gotten the same level of service as I have received in Brazil. Many places they actually control how much time they spend with you and if they are enjoying themselves they are in no hurry. I also have been in clubs where once the girls find out your speak Portuguese they will come by and say they don't usually do this or that but in your case they will. The best advice that anyone on this forum will ever give you is to learn Portuguese and not the guttural version claimed by some of the "experts. " [/QUOTE]Exect Talent, you know I respect your opinion, yet my experience with the BR girls in Europe (specifically Spain) was actually the opposite.

Whenever I called an escort girl, and I spoke to her in Potuguese, they kind of freak out and ask me whether I know them etc.

And they only calm down once they are sure I am not from Brazil.

More than once, girls have told me flat out "no dice", and I couldn't meet them because of speaking Portuguese.

However, the same girls, calling from a different number and speaking English were a lot more willing and receptive.

Of course this didn't happen in 100% of the time, and is limited to my experience with Brazilian escorts in Spain, but hey, some people can have a different experience in the matter.

Clearly though speaking Portuguese in Brazil is an advantage with the girls (although it was not good in the good old HELP because girls used to think I am a Brazilian impersonating a gringo in order to impress them or something, but I was also negotiating the prices which because of the "union" they had in HELP was a big no no).

My experience had also been that Brazilian girls in Spain are not as GFE as in Rio (yet still better than other nationalities), but that may be because most of the girls I have met in Spain are from Sao Paulo rather than Rio, so they could be the same was back in Sampa.

I had a lot of girls in Rio giving me extra services for free, like girls who don't do CIM offering it to me, or anal, and even an expensive 700 Reais an hour girl spending the whole night with me for free just because she said she hates dealing with "clients". Great girls, I consider the Cariocas to be the very best women in the world.

What are they protesting about now?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1695466]What are they protesting about now?[/QUOTE]The demonstrations are against corrupt government, inflation, Petrobras graft and its effect on a failing economy.

Forty nine political figures, including close allies of Rousseff, and former Petrobras executives are under investigation over a kickback and money laundering scheme that saw an estimated $3. 8 billion creamed off inflated contracts over a decade. Petrobras is majority owned and operated by the State of Brazil. Petrobras can't complete a valid audit of its balance sheet as losses and write-downs keep mounting and its bond rating was recently downgraded to junk by Moodys.

Last week, Brazil's Supreme Court announced it would investigate the speakers of both houses of Congress and more than 30 other congressmen and senators all but one of whom are from Ms Rousseff's ruling PT (Workers Party) and its coalition allies. Prosecutors believe that for much of the past decade Petrobras executives and the country's largest construction companies conspired to cream billions of dollars off Petrobras contracts, part of which was used to fund political parties and line the pockets of politicians. Millions of dollars were laundered through Swiss banks. Ms Rousseff, who has denied any involvement in the scheme, was chairman of the Petrobras board when much of the alleged graft took place.

In addition to the corruption scandal at Petrobras, Rousseff is also facing rising inflation and a Brazilian economy that is on the brink of recession.

Granted, Rousseff was recently reelected but it was by a narrow margin of 51 percent of the vote, the closest election in Brazil's history. The electorate is clearly divided by far left socialists and center to moderate voters.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1695150]My experience had also been that Brazilian girls in Spain are not as GFE as in Rio (yet still better than other nationalities), but that may be because most of the girls I have met in Spain are from Sao Paulo rather than Rio, so they could be the same was back in Sampa.[/QUOTE]I have had outstanding experiences with Brazilian girls in Spain, Germany, and Switzerland (I go for the PSE over the GFE). Indeed, the best BBBJ / CIM service I have ever had in my entire life (not exaggerating) was at Club Globe in Zurich, and it was provided by a Brazilian girl going by "Sara". My whole body seized up in almost unbearable pleasure from her talented lips and tongue. Sometimes, I have crazy thoughts of flying to Switzerland just for the weekend so that Sara can suck my dick again. It was that good! I've also had some good anal sessions with Brazilian women in Europe. When nobody else in the club was butt fucking, of course the hot Brasilieras were! As I always say, they are simply the best on any continent where you find them! And they always love it when you tell them that Brazil is your favorite country and that you have been there many, many times. Sara laughed her head off when I called her "popozuda" LOL! Damn I love me some pretty, bubble butt Brazilian tutes! By the way, Sara told me that she got to Switzerland by marrying a Swiss guy. I bet she sucked his dick and he fell for her immediately hahaha! Well, they were no longer married by the time I met her (and two other Brasilieras) at Club Globe.

Browse [URL]www.voegol.com.br[/URL] or [URL]www.tam.com.br[/URL] and check yourself.

[QUOTE=Auriflama;1689267]What the price from Sao Paulo to Rio air flights round trip?[/QUOTE]

Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?

[QUOTE=Shemp;1698255]Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?[/QUOTE]General Osório, Ipanema.

[QUOTE=Shemp;1698255]Does the metro line currently stop at Cantagalo in Copacabana or does it extend into Ipanema?-if so, where is the stop (s)?[/QUOTE]Yes, the metro stops at Cantagalo and continues to General Osorio. Both stations are operating normally now.

Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

Dutch

[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908;1698548]Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

Dutch[/QUOTE]I don't know if this is a trick question, but how about trying a farmácia?

[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908;1698548]Hello mongers,

Having a great time in Sao Paolo. But I did run out of my pills. Went to a sex shop but seems they are not selling the kamagra etc at these shops. Any more experienced mongers know of places to buy? Or does someone have some extra supply.

All info would be very much appreciated!

Dutch[/QUOTE]Farmácia. Haven't been to one in Brasil for a while but generally very easy to find in Latin America. Was offered Cialis in Bogota at a pharmacy without even asking.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1698637]I don't know if this is a trick question, but how about trying a farmcia?[/QUOTE]Hi Sperto,

Available at pharmacies I understand. Thanks for the tip. Understand your remark but just didn't want to get bookmarked as spam for promoting Viagra etc.

Will go and see if I can get some!

Happy times ahead.

[QUOTE=Dutchboy7908;1698751]Hi Sperto,

Available at pharmacies I understand. Thanks for the tip. Understand your remark but just didn't want to get bookmarked as spam for promoting Viagra etc.

Will go and see if I can get some!

Happy times ahead.[/QUOTE]Walk into any pharmacy and show them a piece of paper with the following written on it: Citrato de Sildenafila 50 MG. It costs me 18R a box last year. 4 per box.

Actually, you might want to grab one of their flyers inside the store and check out the prices. Then go to the counter and show them the piece of paper. This generic brand of Viagra works like a charm. I buy the 50 MG tablets and break them into 4 pieces. More than enough for me with just a quarter. This varies depending on the individual. I use it when seeing multiple chicks on the same day. No prescription necc. Enjoy!

Tonight and it will be my 1st time attempting to monger there although I have previous experience in Tijuana. What advice can you guys provide?

[QUOTE=PeteMarqdadon;1698974]Tonight and it will be my 1st time attempting to monger there although I have previous experience in Tijuana. What advice can you guys provide?[/QUOTE]My advice is RTFF, enjoy yourself and report back on the forum.

This report is provided to supplement my response to MRusa007 in the Rio de Janeiro thread. It is posted here to rebut the charge that I had posted miss information. I personally have several years of first -hand experience assisting Brazilians with B1, B2, J, and H3 nonimmigrant visas as well as IR1 immigrant visas.

US Visa processing at the Brazilian Consulate.

This can be an easy process if you qualify within the framework of screening performed by the Consular official who handles your application. It can also be very frustrating if the applicant does not precisely demonstrate strong ties to Brazil, self sufficiency, financial means and proven intent to not exceed their temporary visit. Each year 3 to 5 percent of applications (35 to 40 thousand persons) are denied for these reasons.

Form DS-160 questions:

Work / Education / Training Information.

Primary Occupation.

Present Employer or School Name:

Address.

City.

State / Province.

Postal Zone / Zip Code.

Month Salary in Local Currency.

Briefly Describe your Duties.

According to the Immigration and Naturalization Law, all non-immigrant visa applicants must demonstrate to the consular officer that they have strong ties to their country of residence, and must show that they intend to depart the USA After their temporary visit. While there is no specific list of docum ents to be provided or things that must be done in order to demonstrate strong ties outside of the United States, applicants may wish to bring a variety of materials that can assist in demonstrating these ties. .

If someone else will pay for your travel, then it can be important to bring documents demonstrating that person's or organization's ties outside of the United States, as well as documents that can help demonstrate the applicant's own ties to his or her country of residence.

Source: [URL]http://brazil.usembassy.gov/instnvisaforms.html[/URL] [URL]http://travel.state.gov/conten[/URL] t / visas / english / general / ineligibilities. Html#visa.

Consular officers will generally apply a means test to determine if the applicant meets the minimum income level established by the Department of Homeland Security. In 2015 this is $19,512 for a family of two. (Reais =58,500).

Brazilian Nonimmigrant Visas Granted and Denied 2006 - 2014.

Year Applications Granted Denied.

2014 1112148 982463 35588.74 3. 20%.

2013 1047867 925678 36675.36 3. 50%.

2012 1188248 1049689 38023.93 3. 20%.

2011 907152 801371 34471.77 3. 80%.

2010 629461 556061 32731.97 5. 20%.

2009 547931 484038 38355.17 7. 00%.

2008 509274 449889 28010.09 5. 50%.

2007 407220 359735 39093.12 9. 60%.

2006 321219 283762 42400.85 13.20%.

Source: [URL]http://travel.state.gov/content/visas/english/law-and-policy/statistics/non-immigrant-visas.html[/URL].

To stress the point that figures don't lie but liars figure, Visa data should not be confused with admissions data, which counts visits to the USA.

Non immigrant admissions: 2013 - 2,143,154 2012 - 1,792,425 2011 - 1,539,015.

Source: US Department of Homeland Security. Note: In this report, nonimmigrant admissions refer to the number of events (I. E. , admissions to the United States) rather than to the number of individual nonimmigrants admitted. One person visiting 3 times counts as 3 admissions.

What does the increase in admissions tell us?

According to a recent survey from research firm Data Popular, more than 6. 5 million Brazilians plan on traveling by August 2014. In 2013 Brazilians spent more than US $25 billion on international trips, a hefty increase from the US $22 billion they spent in 2012.

Class "see" Spending Spikes Between 2002 and 2012, Brazil's Class "see" middle class increased its travel expenditures by 242%. And the upward trend did not stop in 2012: we recently reported that Class see Brazilians will spend even more on travel in 2014.

Brazilian Travel to the United States Will Continue Surging Braztoa (the Associao Brasileira das Operadoras de Turismo or Brazilian Association of Tour Operators) noted that in 2005,485,000 Brazilians visited the United States and spent US $2. 2 billion. By 2013 Brazilian travel to the United States increased by 332% as nearly 2. 1 million Brazilians visited the United States and spent US $10.5 billion. This year more than 2. 2 million Brazilians will visit the USA And by 2018 the total will reach 3 million.

Brazilians Travel Frequently More than 4 out of 10 Brazilians (41%) travel 3 times a year or more, while 36% travel twice a year and 19% travel once a year.

Source: [URL]http://latinlink.usmediaconsulting.com/2014/05/reaching-the-brazilian-travel-market/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1699511]This report is provided to supplement my response to MRusa007 in the Rio de Janeiro thread. It is posted here to rebut the charge that I had posted miss information. I personally have several years of first -hand experience assisting Brazilians with B1, B2, J, and H3 nonimmigrant visas as well as IR1 immigrant visas.

US Visa processing at the Brazilian Consulate.

This can be an easy process if you qualify within the framework of screening performed by the Consular official who handles your application. It can also be very frustrating if the applicant does not precisely demonstrate strong ties to Brazil, self sufficiency, financial means and proven intent to not exceed their temporary visit. Each year 3 to 5 percent of applications (35 to 40 thousand persons) are denied for these reasons.

Form DS-160 questions:

Work / Education / Training Information.

Primary Occupation.

Present Employer or School Name:

Address.

City.

State / Province.

Postal Zone / Zip Code.

Month Salary in Local Currency.

Briefly Describe your Duties.

According to the Immigration and Naturalization Law, all non-immigrant visa applicants must demonstrate to the consular officer that they have strong ties to their country of residence, and must show that they intend to depart the USA After their temporary visit. While there is no specific list of docum ents to be provided or things that must be done in order to demonstrate strong ties outside of the United States, applicants may wish to bring a variety of materials that can assist in demonstrating these ties. .

If someone else will pay for your travel, then it can be important to bring documents demonstrating that person's or organization's ties outside of the United States, as well as documents that can help demonstrate the applicant's own ties to his or her country of residence.[/QUOTE]This sounds really tough especially if the girl is a GDP. Sounds like they would have a low probability of success.

Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.

[QUOTE=PeteMarqdadon;1700067]Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.[/QUOTE]You can pay everything by card, but there is usually a quite steep surcharge for using a credit card.

[QUOTE=PeteMarqdadon;1700067]Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.[/QUOTE]Yes, you can pay for everything (gal, room, drinks, entrance, tips) with credit card only or with cash only, or part in credit and part in cash. Please do not tip the gal extra for services in cabina. You might begin a bad trend by doing so. You are free to do as you wish, but so you just know, Brazilians do not normally give tips for service in cabina. Tips to bartender and waitresses might be a different story. Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Pete Marqdadon;1700067]Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.[/QUOTE]
No, you didn't RTFF. If you had you should have learn't that you shouldn't tip the girls. Guys like you ruin this business. That's one reason why I limit the information I share on this forum.
Go ahead, pay with your card, get scammed and give a big tip just to show the staff that you're new to the game.

[QUOTE=PeteMarqdadon;1700067]Just spent a few hours trying to "RTFF" as suggested last time I asked a question before I asked a question but still need a little clarification to make I understand everything. Basically. I'm in Copacabana and I want to got to Termas Monte Carlo. I gather I need some cash to tip but My question is can I put everything on my credit card or do I need to pay the girl in cash? Thanks for any help you guys can provide a newbie here in Rio for the 1st time.[/QUOTE]Mr 4 Posts. Tipping is VERY VERY BAD and sets a bad precedent. Don't do it. Just because you are a newbie clueless gringo, please don't act like one.

Nobody expects tips in Termas, nor in taxis. Restaurants add the service charge so you don't have to think about it. Don't be *that guy*.

[QUOTE=Junior;1700154]You can pay everything by card, but there is usually a quite steep surcharge for using a credit card.[/QUOTE]The 30 % surcharge is because the CC transaction is registered and hence the terma has to declare / come up with an excuse for this payment officially.

Cash payments 'don't exist' officially.

Do not tip people in termas except the lady in changing room in MC-she's cool as fcuk, old and doesn't earn much and has such a great, helpful personality.

No one else gets any. 4 X 4 are obsessed with it-they only get away with what you allow them to-and many do hence the safado attitude and cheekyness.

Bartenders there are crap, service lousy and many drinks wrong-and they still want tips. GTF out of here. LOL.

Went on a mad one yesterday from 9 pm to 5 AM-went to boate be / W in Bonsucesso-decent girls-deep zona norte-then went to Olimpo-big outdoor and on-pro club with zero gringos and ended up at Villa Mimosa where I got a nice light-skinned.

Chick for 1 hour-100 Reais. BBBJ.

Nina, the change room attendant at Monte Carlo, has been there forever. She is more attractive than some of the girls who work upstairs. She is sweet as they come, always is in a good mood and helps you any way she can. Please tip her generously. It also wouldn't hurt to give her a hug and a couple pecks on the check while telling her she is "linda" if for no other reason than to see her smile and blush.

Fully agree with other posters that tipping request have become absurd in many termas. People who have provided no real service or even worse whom I have never seen or spoken to before are asking for tips. Passing the cleaning lady on the way to a suite and you may get asked for a tip. Cashiers asking for tips just for adding up your bill incorrectly.

I am certainly not a cheapskate and have no problems tipping people who provide good service. That could be the ladies or the staff, but the numerous requests for tips from everybody is really annoying.

So just say "No" unless you feel a tip is warranted.

Having said that, tipping the right people can be a good idea if you frequent the same place numerous times. In my view the right people are the ladies, the manager who can sort out any problems and very importantly the lady who manages the rooms and will knock on the door when time is up. Her, you want to keep on your side.

One thing that I have noticed is that in Rio there seem to be more and more of the monster ass thunder thigh women. When I have commented about a girl with a small or normal bubble butt to a Brazilian guy, they told me she was cute but not for them. Throughout Europe the Brazilians I have encountered have been normal sized. Even in the US, the Brazilians I have met were mostly of normal size. This leads me to conclude that Brazilian women take steroids, get butt implants and workout because they find it attractive and attractive to others whether be it male or female. This also seems to be a growing trend in the termas. Used to be that there would be 3-5 large women out of 30. Now it seems like it is 10 - 15. Could be when the Real got strong and fewer foreigners were coming to Rio they catered more to the Brazilian market. Also, African Americans who like big asses. I have a buddy whose girlfriend's ass should have its own zip code.

For those of you who haven't looked at airfares lately I just noticed today that airfares toward the end of the year have dropped $400 to $500 rountrip from New York area to Rio. Now of course YMMV depending upon your dates and origin location. For example I saw Tam at about $750 RT and AA at about $850, these are not bad fares and some of you may even be able to do better than that. Hotel prices are coming down too. Some hotels are about the same price as some apartments being offered or not much more.

It has been my experience that prices like this usually don't last long, could be days or even a couple of weeks but prices will go back up. Recently I noticed a $700 price drop to Rome in the afternoon, I thought about it for a couple of hours and purchased the ticket by 7:00 PM. That night at about 11 PM I checked the price again and it went back up to where it was so I was lucky I grabbed it.

I had various plans for Rio this year and already have a ticket using points, I may cancel that ticket and get a cash ticket rather than use points and I had another trip planned too, if I'm going to do it I'll probably do it by the end of the day today. I'm also waiting for the stock market to come down and that hasn't happenned yet but it will.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1702674]For those of you who haven't looked at airfares lately I just noticed today that airfares toward the end of the year have dropped $400 to $500 rountrip from New York area to Rio. Now of course YMMV depending upon your dates and origin location. For example I saw Tam at about $750 RT and AA at about $850, these are not bad fares and some of you may even be able to do better than that. .[/QUOTE]I am afraid that your analysis about airfares is flawed because you picked NYC as the originating destination. Airfares from NYC are the cheapest in the country for all the international destinations. Why, you may ask? Heavy competition among US and overseas airlines. That is it. No airline in the world is large enough to control the NYC market.

All other major hubs in the country are monopolized by one major airline. E. g. , United in Chicago, DC, SFO. American in Miami, Dallas, Philli, (due to US Air merger) Delta in Atlanta, Detroit. Etc. Good luck getting good prices at these destinations. On top of that, you add 'codeshare' and you are royally screwed

An United/Air Canada flight to Montreal from DC is more expensive than flying JFK-GIG.

[QUOTE=Tiradentes;1702677]I am afraid that your analysis about airfares is flawed because you picked NYC as the originating destination. Airfares from NYC are the cheapest in the country for all the international destinations. Why, you may ask? Heavy competition among US and overseas airlines. That is it. No airline in the world is large enough to control the NYC market.

All other major hubs in the country are monopolized by one major airline. E. g. , United in Chicago, DC, SFO. American in Miami, Dallas, Philli, (due to US Air merger) Delta in Atlanta, Detroit. Etc. Good luck getting good prices at these destinations. On top of that, you add 'codeshare' and you are royally screwed

An United/Air Canada flight to Montreal from DC is more expensive than flying JFK-GIG.[/QUOTE]I said NY to Rio there was no analysis, LOL. Too bad for you that you can't take advantage of it.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1702674]For those of you who haven't looked at airfares lately I just noticed today that airfares toward the end of the year have dropped $400 to $500 rountrip from New York area to Rio. [/QUOTE]The USA airlines drop fares from mid September till March. They increase fares again from April. Happens every year. But if the demand during the 'slow' season picks up, then they may increase the fares. I have noticed that some overseas airlines also drop fares during that period.

Fellas, last time I checked the real was closer to the dollar and prices in Rio were about what one would find in the US.

Has the situation changed dramatically. What can I expect to spend now in terms of compensation for the girls and a nice hotel room?

Is Brazil currently a better value? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Kafka;1705270]Fellas, last time I checked the real was closer to the dollar and prices in Rio were about what one would find in the US.

Has the situation changed dramatically. What can I expect to spend now in terms of compensation for the girls and a nice hotel room?

Is Brazil currently a better value? Thanks![/QUOTE]Brazil keeps pushing their prices up as Real loses value but is decent value ATM yes. The Petrobas collapse has seen the Real freefall with rumours it will drop to 6 reais for 1 £ -that's 4 to a $ by end of the year.

That means 1 hour in VM would cost me. Ehhh 16 £. That's nuts.

[URL]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2014/11/19/move-over-kim-kardashian-indianara-carvalho-crowned-miss-bumbum-2014/[/URL] Enjoy!!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1705324]Brazil keeps pushing their prices up as Real loses value but is decent value ATM yes. The Petrobas collapse has seen the Real freefall with rumours it will drop to 6 reais for 1 -that's 4 to a $ by end of the year.

That means 1 hour in VM would cost me. Ehhh 16 . That's nuts.[/QUOTE]Thats great!

I am looking at an August trip, any idea whatthe preferred hotels 4 stars and what is the best way to book?

Next Monday and Tuesday are holidays. Do any of you down in Rio know if the casas will be open?

Obrigado,

SS

[QUOTE=SunsetStrip;1707493]Next Monday and Tuesday are holidays. Do any of you down in Rio know if the casas will be open?

Obrigado,

SS[/QUOTE]Only Monday and Tuesday in Brazil. It lasts 360 plus days in the USA.

[URL]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2015/01/20/women-bare-their-breasts-in-rio-to-lobby-for-right-to-go-topless/?intcmp=obnetwork[/URL]

Interesting, but I doubt there will be any change on the current law in place.

[QUOTE=Mangera;1708566][URL]http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/lifestyle/2015/01/20/women-bare-their-breasts-in-rio-to-lobby-for-right-to-go-topless/?intcmp=obnetwork[/URL]

Interesting, but I doubt there will be any change on the current law in place.[/QUOTE]This line up won't win a lot of supporters for their cause. Kkkk.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1708575]This line up won't win a lot of supporters for their cause. Kkkk.[/QUOTE]Its the thought that counts. Rsrsrs.

When I first embarked on this adventure and found myself in lands unknown, I spent a lot of time researching different options. When I came across forums like this one I would print out relevant information and assemble it in a binder. Then I went through the binder and highlighted areas of interest. Only then did I ask questions of forum members.

Like life in general too many people are happy for others to do the work for them. When you really have done your homework, you will have pointed questions to ask.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1711866]When I first embarked on this adventure and found myself in lands unknown, I spent a lot of time researching different options. When I came across forums like this one I would print out relevant information and assemble it in a binder. Then I went through the binder and highlighted areas of interest. Only then did I ask questions of forum members.

Like life in general too many people are happy for others to do the work for them. When you really have done your homework, you will have pointed questions to ask.[/QUOTE]Exc Talent, you are absolute right!

ABG.

[QUOTE=Mongmann;1712005]The only way to get a cab from the airport is to go upstairs to the departures level and get in a cab that just dropped someone off. Try to be discreet since they're not supposed to be picking you up. I do it every time I go to Rio. As far as I know it's the cheapest route.[/QUOTE]Actually, the taxis on the departures level will drive down to the arrivals level after dropping off their passengers. There are two types of taxis, yellow taxis and radio-dispatched taxis. The radio taxis are various colors (white, blue, green) and will quote a fare of [NOPARSE]90 100[/NOPARSE] reais for a trip to Copacabana or Ipanema. Yellow taxis operating on the meter will cost about [NOPARSE]40 50[/NOPARSE] reais. You can also negotiate a price with the yellow taxis.

When you leave passport control, and enter the terminal reception area, there will be people aggressively offering taxi services. You can decline these offers and pass through the terminal doors to a street where taxis usually group together with their own service. Most of the taxis in the first lane are radio taxis (various colors) but there is usually also a queue of yellow taxis. Most of the yellow cabs are in the second lane. At this point, you can select which option or service you prefer and take the next available in line. Ask the approximate price for your ride and make sure the driver resets the meter. The starting price on the meter is about [NOPARSE]R$ 4.80[/NOPARSE].

People who travel to Brazil can be broken down into two categories, those who speak Portuguese and those who don't.

When I read the advice on here that says you can ask or negotiate or say anything it is completely inappropriate. If someone is asking basic questions, they have been too lazy to research the internet and certainly are not going to speak Portuguese. The average person in Brazil is not going to speak English and even if they do if it is not to their advantage, they are going to act like they don't. Not any different from any other country. Think American in Paris.

Sometimes this nave advice is harmless, but other times (like suggesting someone go to a baile funk party in a favela) can be dangerous.

There are people on this forum who have the desire to be genuinely helpful and then we have those who feel the need to be recognized as the expert. Someone who travels often to Rio and speaks the language is going to be able to be able to do things that those who don't, can't. Know yourself and know that some people here share some great experiences. They may just not be your experience this visit they may have to wait until a future visit.

"Andressa Urach, a runner-up in Brazil's Miss BumBum pageant, has become a walking warning label for dangerous cosmetic surgery. All that junk in the trunk is making her sick. Cheeky Brazilian model Andressa Urach has returned to the hospital to fight a nasty infection from her prodigious butt implants".

[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bumbum-back-hospital-infected-butt-implant-article-1.2137962[/URL]

Couldn't help but notice Ricker's contributions so decided to send him a little insider information private message.

Rather than chastising those who do not report, this might be a way to reward those who do and encourage the takers to give. So those of you who give back, expect a welcome PM from me. Maybe a few others in the know could do the same.

The Stadiums are a bust.

They were only required to build 8, but built 12.

[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brazils-3-billion-world-cup-170000993.html[/URL]

This is one of the many reasons Brazilians are pissed off with politicians.
You know, more stadiums = more money budgeted = more robberies.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1720627]The Stadiums are a bust.

They were only required to build 8, but built 12.

[URL]http://sports.yahoo.com/news/brazils-3-billion-world-cup-170000993.html[/URL][/QUOTE]

This October, I have an opportunity to go to Sao Paulo for three days for work. During those three days I won't have any opportunity to play with any of the fine Brazilian ladies, as I will be chaperoned the whole time. However, I will be taking an extra 3-5 days, during which I'd love to spend as much time as I can with Brazilian pussy. I am considering leaving Sao Paulo for Rio de Janiero for the majority of my extra time. Are the cariocas worth the cost and hassle of an extra trip, or should I just stay in Sao Paulo and enjoy the paulistas?

I am an experienced traveler, with many trips to Venezuela, Colombia, and Central America, but have never been to Brazil. My preference is casas and termas. I am not one for the free-lance or club scene. The last thing I want to do is to take a girl out for drinks and dancing all night only to head back to my hotel for drunk and exhausted sex.

My spanish is adequate, but I do not speak any portuguese -- although I am sure that I can pick up a few phrases between now and then.

So, is it worth the expense and hassle to fly to Rio for a few days, or should I just stick it out in Sao Paulo and accept that the prices are higher (aren't they?) and there aren't as many choices (or are there?

[QUOTE=KCQuestor;1727527]This October, I have an opportunity to go to Sao Paulo for three days for work. During those three days I won't have any opportunity to play with any of the fine Brazilian ladies, as I will be chaperoned the whole time. However, I will be taking an extra 3-5 days, during which I'd love to spend as much time as I can with Brazilian pussy. I am considering leaving Sao Paulo for Rio de Janiero for the majority of my extra time. Are the cariocas worth the cost and hassle of an extra trip, or should I just stay in Sao Paulo and enjoy the paulistas?

I am an experienced traveler, with many trips to Venezuela, Colombia, and Central America, but have never been to Brazil. My preference is casas and termas. I am not one for the free-lance or club scene. The last thing I want to do is to take a girl out for drinks and dancing all night only to head back to my hotel for drunk and exhausted sex.

My spanish is adequate, but I do not speak any portuguese -- although I am sure that I can pick up a few phrases between now and then.

So, is it worth the expense and hassle to fly to Rio for a few days, or should I just stick it out in Sao Paulo and accept that the prices are higher (aren't they?) and there aren't as many choices (or are there?[/QUOTE]Since you are on a limited visit with the structure of business travel, it would be a waste of time to shuttle to Rio and back when there are plenty of options available in Sao Paulo. Consult with ABG and make the best of your SP visit.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1727536]Since you are on a limited visit with the structure of business travel, it would be a waste of time to shuttle to Rio and back when there are plenty of options available in Sao Paulo. Consult with ABG and make the best of your SP visit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. I'll definitely consult with ABG, but I am starting to think that a side trip to Rio is still needed. I'm thinking that I'll some in a day or two early to do SP before my business, then fly to Rio for a few days after I'm done with the job. I can fly home straight from Rio. I am thinking that every guy should see Rio once.

Hi Kc,

If you decide to do both, check out Gol airlines. Roundtrip from both domestic airports in Rio and S. P. Go for a low $37.00 one way fee depending on the time you leave.

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1712224]Actually, the taxis on the departures level will drive down to the arrivals level after dropping off their passengers. There are two types of taxis, yellow taxis and radio-dispatched taxis. The radio taxis are various colors (white, blue, green) and will quote a fare of [NOPARSE]90 100[/NOPARSE] reais for a trip to Copacabana or Ipanema. Yellow taxis operating on the meter will cost about [NOPARSE]40 50[/NOPARSE] reais. You can also negotiate a price with the yellow taxis.

When you leave passport control, and enter the terminal reception area, there will be people aggressively offering taxi services. You can decline these offers and pass through the terminal doors to a street where taxis usually group together with their own service. Most of the taxis in the first lane are radio taxis (various colors) but there is usually also a queue of yellow taxis. Most of the yellow cabs are in the second lane. At this point, you can select which option or service you prefer and take the next available in line. Ask the approximate price for your ride and make sure the driver resets the meter. The starting price on the meter is about R$ 4.8.[/QUOTE]Ignore the transportation company reps as you clear immigration. Go to the upper level, take any cab with a meter. Make sure the meter is set on are R $4,80 when he takes off. Even with heavy traffic it should not take you more than 30-40 minutes to get to Copa or Ipa. Final damage no more than are are $80,00.

Reminds me of the my first trip to RdJ, I was staying at 8 Miguel Lemos. Met some friends for a drink somewhere. Just so happened we were near Centaurus. So we went. After we were done we all went our separate ways. I took a cab back to Copa. The trip took 40 minutes, the fare are are $90,00. A few days met up with same crew at Mei Pataca. They wanted to go back to Centaurus, there was some promotion going on. I go to tell the cab driver who's always at MP, my boys look at me and say "it's close enough to walk!" .

Thinking back to 2005-2007, prices in Centro were about are $80 for 1 hour, but that was mostly at 2. 2 Real per dollar. So, it was about $36.36 per hour.

Today at are $120 per hour and exchange at 3. 15, the current price is about $38.00.

Wow, inflation of $2. 64 in 8-10 years, that is a great deal for anybody visiting Rio these days. It's still priced just like the good ol' days.

The only ones taking it in the ass both literally and figuratively are the girls. Their percentage of the $R120 is worth about half, or less of what they could buy with it in 2005.

Enjoy the good ol' days as they are here now.

Many places in the world $38 would not include a set of teeth for a lovely BBBJ!

Have fun. Just food for thought.

Ibiza.

I looked but didn't see a list of good, mid-Range hotels to go to in Leme / Copa / Ipanema any suggestions. I will report back.

Today is Dia dos Namorados. Remember to send greetings to all your brazilian girlfriends.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1733087]Today is Dia dos Namorados. Remember to send greetings to all your brazilian girlfriends.[/QUOTE]And to all your amigas colouridas, GDPs etc!

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;1728440]Ignore the transportation company reps as you clear immigration. Go to the upper level, take any cab with a meter. Make sure the meter is set on are R $4,80 when he takes off. Even with heavy traffic it should not take you more than 30-40 minutes to get to Copa or Ipa. Final damage no more than are are $80,00.[/QUOTE]Recently when I landed I was laden with boxes and duty free bags after an extremely long flight, so I decided to risk the Radio Taxi booth right when you exit the immigration area, in the main airport. I walked past the radio taxi booths still inside the immigration area and exited the doors.

There outside is a booth for the official airport cabs that takes credit cards and debit cards. As I had no cash on me except dollars and didn't want to haul all my stuff up to the ATMs, I decided to risk it.

To my great surprise, charge with 1 extra bag (hate when they do that) was BRL 70 to Copa. I was surprised because normally a metered taxi these days, especially on weekends when it is Bandeira 02, are going to be are $66 or so.

Paid with debit card, got my receipt, walked outside and handed receipt to taxi, straight to copa with no worry about him fucking about on the route to try to overcharge me.

Pleasant surprise really.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1729324]Thinking back to 2005-2007, prices in Centro were about are $80 for 1 hour, but that was mostly at 2. 2 Real per dollar. So, it was about $36.36 per hour.

Today at are $120 per hour and exchange at 3. 15, the current price is about $38.00.

Wow, inflation of $2. 64 in 8-10 years, that is a great deal for anybody visiting Rio these days. It's still priced just like the good ol' days.

The only ones taking it in the ass both literally and figuratively are the girls. Their percentage of the $R120 is worth about half, or less of what they could buy with it in 2005.

Enjoy the good ol' days as they are here now.

Many places in the world $38 would not include a set of teeth for a lovely BBBJ!

Have fun. Just food for thought.

Ibiza[/QUOTE]There are girls that know the exchange rate has changed and will ask for more. Then there one that don't know the difference. But I have paid the same what I use to pay when the rate was 1.6. To when it was 3.3 a few months ago in boates but all depends on the girl.

Clinicas are not the same though, what use to cost 150 R now cost 250 R they have gone up with inflation.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1735987]Retiring from mongering career.

Of course, I'm not talking about myself. In less than 24 hours two of our more contributing members, PatmarBeleza1 and Ricker, have declared that they will retire from their mongering careers.

I doubt that they will get golden watches as retirement gifts. Maybe they'll get free blowjobs at Uruguaiana 24 as retirement gifts?

Meeting the big "amor da minha vida" is a great thing, so I want to congratulate both of them and also thank them for all their interesting and funny reports.

Personally I see no problem combining a "amor da minha vida"-relationship with mongering. Two different things. Just have to do the mongering discreetly.[/QUOTE]You also could take your amor along on your adventures. If she is hot, you should have no problem scoring threesomes and moresomes. Happy to help both of you guys ease into your retirement.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1734136]Recently when I landed I was laden with boxes and duty free bags after an extremely long flight, so I decided to risk the Radio Taxi booth right when you exit the immigration area, in the main airport. I walked past the radio taxi booths still inside the immigration area and exited the doors.

There outside is a booth for the official airport cabs that takes credit cards and debit cards. As I had no cash on me except dollars and didn't want to haul all my stuff up to the ATMs, I decided to risk it.

To my great surprise, charge with 1 extra bag (hate when they do that) was BRL 70 to Copa. I was surprised because normally a metered taxi these days, especially on weekends when it is Bandeira 02, are going to be are $66 or so.

Paid with debit card, got my receipt, walked outside and handed receipt to taxi, straight to copa with no worry about him fucking about on the route to try to overcharge me.

Pleasant surprise really.[/QUOTE]I normally go to Rio by myself and I always have big luggage with me. Whatever taxi I take since I am alone with my big luggage it always just fits in the taxi and I am good to go.

But 1 trip I will be taking to Rio this year I will have 2 companions with me and all 3 of us will have big luggage. Does anyone think I would be able to get a taxi or a van that could take all 3 of us into Zona Sul in the same vehicle. I never really noticed before because I'm alone but maybe some of you guys have come across this?

Recommend the free app for "EASY TAXI" in Rio to hail cabs. Works very well especially if you are traveling in Barra / Recreio / Jacarepagua areas where it is difficult to get cabs on the street.

The next time I'm in Rio, I think I might want to check out a concert. Can anybody recommend a good site where I can go online and see who's going to be playing around town before I get down there, and that will allow me to purchase and download my ticket online? It doesn't matter to me if the site is in English or Portuguese. I'll be able to navigate my way around either way. What I'm looking for is something like this site for events in Mexico: [URL]http://www.dondehayferia.com/.[/URL] I don't need anything that covers the whole country like the Mexican site does since I'm really primarily interested in Rio. If anybody has any good sites you can refer me to, that would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1739271]The next time I'm in Rio, I think I might want to check out a concert. Can anybody recommend a good site where I can go online and see who's going to be playing around town before I get down there, and that will allow me to purchase and download my ticket online?[/QUOTE]Found these sites to purchase tix online. You'll have to register and will need a CPF to buy. [URL]http://premier.ticketsforfun.com.br/[/URL].

[URL]http://www.ingresso.com/rio-de-janeiro/home/show[/URL]

[URL]https://ticketbrasil.com.br/uf/rj/[/URL] BTW, I've never used them. Best of Luck.

[QUOTE=MikeDoesBookz;1731873]I'm not sure if links are allowed here but you can Google and see that Us Pres. To Meet with Brazilian Pres. June 30th and killing the Visa is part of the talks and part of the reason is to increase Olympic / US visitors.[/QUOTE]I saw their press conference today but I didn't hear any mention about relaxing Visa requirements at all unless I missed it or they just didn't mention it, anybody know better?

[QUOTE=RioBob;1741000]I saw their press conference today but I didn't hear any mention about relaxing Visa requirements at all unless I missed it or they just didn't mention it, anybody know better?[/QUOTE]It was a little vague. Not a lot of coverage about it. "They also agreed to take steps so that Americans and Brazilians can travel between the two countries without visas, and to allow Brazilians to apply for expedited "Global Entry" clearance when visiting the United States in early 2016."

[URL]http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/30/us-usa-brazil-statement-idUSKCN0PA25620150630[/URL]

[QUOTE=BeachStar;1736937]Recommend the free app for "EASY TAXI" in Rio to hail cabs. Works very well especially if you are traveling in Barra / Recreio / Jacarepagua areas where it is difficult to get cabs on the street.[/QUOTE]Uber also works pretty well now.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1742454]Uber also works pretty well now.[/QUOTE]A friend in Rio the other day had her cellphone stolen while she was sitting waiting for a bus. She noticed guys on motorcycles surveying the area before another guy knocked the cellphone out of her hand, picked it up and ran off with it. Other friends tell me there is hardly any work and people are getting more and more desperate.

Can think of no easier way for a bandit to rob someone, especially a tourist, than to have them voluntarily get into his car. Uber fare - 40 Reais. Passenger's cash, phone, let's make a visit to an ATM and BTW, how much are those credit cards and your passport worth to you?

Fellow mongers,

I am in urgent need of your help. My partner in crime and I have booked my trip to Rio for October however, our usual girl friendly apartment ([URL]RioApartmentRentals.com[/URL]) looks like it may have gone out of business (no replies to multiple emails or phone calls). I have tried numerous legit websites and all apartment owners so far are saying no to visitors as they don't want their apartments to be used for sex tourism (party poopers!

Do any of you have any recommendations for apartments to stay in the Copa area?

Many thanks in advance.

MT

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1742557]A friend in Rio the other day had her cellphone stolen while she was sitting waiting for a bus. She noticed guys on motorcycles surveying the area before another guy knocked the cellphone out of her hand, picked it up and ran off with it. Other friends tell me there is hardly any work and people are getting more and more desperate.

Can think of no easier way for a bandit to rob someone, especially a tourist, than to have them voluntarily get into his car. Uber fare - 40 Reais. Passenger's cash, phone, let's make a visit to an ATM and BTW, how much are those credit cards and your passport worth to you?[/QUOTE]I thought the same, but lots of people I know are using it. Uber screens their drivers and has logs of who is driving the cars, etc. Taxis are less safe, theoretically.

Again, I had the same theory but I see a ton of people using it and swearing they believe it's safer than getting into a taxi where you really have no idea if the driver is a real driver.

I've had female friends jacked by taxi drivers, so who knows.

Use at your own risk, I suppose.

Entrance Visas in Brazil. Updated on June 25,2015.

[URL]http://www.portalconsular.mre.gov.br/estrangeiros/1qgrv-simples-ing-25.06.2015.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1743126]I thought the same, but lots of people I know are using it. Uber screens their drivers and has logs of who is driving the cars, etc. Taxis are less safe, theoretically.

Again, I had the same theory but I see a ton of people using it and swearing they believe it's safer than getting into a taxi where you really have no idea if the driver is a real driver.

I've had female friends jacked by taxi drivers, so who knows.

Use at your own risk, I suppose.[/QUOTE]In my two years using Uber, I have logged 403 trips. I was surprised, but that's what Uber's anniversary Email to me said.

I have used them all over the Globe, and have felt immensely more secure in them than a Taxi, mostly because I -always-. -anywhere-. Had someone speaking English.

Your location is tracked via GPS in real time, and even the Uber app has a panic button feature IIRC.

I will use local taxis, but only with a local. Or with a local's specific guidance.

Fellow mongers,

I have lived vicariously through your reports for years, never thinking I would get a chance to practice our craft in Brazil. Now I have a very slim window of opportunity as I am visiting Rio and Sao Paulo in Aug 15. Unfortunately our dollar has tanked big time so I am looking to make the most of my visit with both limited Funds and Time (yes far from ideal.) Does anyone know of Monger friendly Tour Guides in Rio that can show me the sights including a trip into VM?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Andeze;1743690]Fellow mongers,

I have lived vicariously through your reports for years, never thinking I would get a chance to practice our craft in Brazil. Now I have a very slim window of opportunity as I am visiting Rio and Sao Paulo in Aug 15. Unfortunately our dollar has tanked big time so I am looking to make the most of my visit with both limited Funds and Time (yes far from ideal.) Does anyone know of Monger friendly Tour Guides in Rio that can show me the sights including a trip into VM?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Dear Andeze,

I am just on the same boat as you. I will arrive at Sampa by the 16th of Aug. As a gringo, perhaps we needed some local intel to help us out. PM me if you would like to.

Chill out together at Sampa.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Andeze;1743690]Fellow mongers,

I have lived vicariously through your reports for years, never thinking I would get a chance to practice our craft in Brazil. Now I have a very slim window of opportunity as I am visiting Rio and Sao Paulo in Aug 15. Unfortunately our dollar has tanked big time so I am looking to make the most of my visit with both limited Funds and Time (yes far from ideal.) Does anyone know of Monger friendly Tour Guides in Rio that can show me the sights including a trip into VM?

Cheers[/QUOTE]Hi Andeze,

I'm about to arrive at Sao Paulo by the 16 of Aug. As a fellow monger, perhaps it would be great to hang out and discover the local punters scene.

PM me if you are interested.

I have a friend who is begging me to send her some Hair Weaves so she can sell them in her salon in Caxias. What is the cheapest way to mail them to her? I am nervous that it might cost more money to send them to Brazil than it is to buy the hair. LOL.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1746265]I have a friend who is begging me to send her some Hair Weaves so she can sell them in her salon in Caxias. What is the cheapest way to mail them to her? I am nervous that it might cost more money to send them to Brazil than it is to buy the hair. LOL.[/QUOTE]And besides that, what about the import duty?

[QUOTE=SouthernGunner;1744061]Dear Andeze,

I am just on the same boat as you. I will arrive at Sampa by the 16th of Aug. As a gringo, perhaps we needed some local intel to help us out. PM me if you would like to.

Chill out together at Sampa.

Cheers[/QUOTE]I'm born in Sao Paulo and would be glad to help you two. Please,. PM me for details.

ABG.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1746299]And besides that, what about the import duty?[/QUOTE]Import duty? How much is that? If I drop 100 bucks on hair, I wonder how much it would cost to send to Rio and then how much it they would charge me for the import tax?

[QUOTE=Bravo;1746407]Import duty? How much is that? If I drop 100 bucks on hair, I wonder how much it would cost to send to Rio and then how much it they would charge me for the import tax?[/QUOTE]You'd better buy yourself a ticket to Brazil. If you use ordinary mail, they might disappear on the way. That is the reason why many companies don't do business with private people in Brazil, because their merchandise never arrive to their destinations.

Here is some info about duties in Brazil. [URL]http://www.dutycalculator.com/country-guides/Import-duty-taxes-when-importing-into-Brazil/[/URL].

I can second that from experience. Stuff mostly does arrive but it can be months late. Literally. Even stuff with a tracking code that they tell you it will arrive in so many days. It doesn't.

Anybody know of any proxy servers besides Brazilproxy? My spyware doesn't like them. Trying to get on GPguia. I did a search on the forum but I didn't find anything.

[QUOTE=Cho637;1750775]Anybody know of any proxy servers besides Brazilproxy? My spyware doesn't like them. Trying to get on GPguia. I did a search on the forum but I didn't find anything.[/QUOTE]What's been going on player? You need to come out and join me and Pipe Layer in Thailand sometime.

I am increasingly amused by the guys in the SP and Rio threads who are posting about not finding girls who speak English.

I haven't posted on this board in quite some time but I frequent it a lot. Most of my trips that included mongering really didn't provide any new information so I never posted anything. Here is my situation, I have a unlocked Iphone 4's that I will bring. I am aware of how to get it set up prepaid with the local carriers. Any one with tech information its greatly appreciated as when I was down there last year I had a old Samsung flip phone and Ipod Touch 4th generation that worked OK.

Thanks.

Whatsapp.

I have already downloaded Whatsapp but it ask for my country and my cell phone but I never put any information in so I am at that status. I currently don' t have the phone hooked up to any USA carrier at the moment and when I hit Brazil and get a prepaid cell number do I use that or should I use my current number provided by my other non prepaid phone carrier. And will this effect anything should I use it in another country or change sim cards.

Uber.

I have downloaded this app and nothing more. Question here it ask for phone and email. As states above its not hooked up to any USA carrier. Once I get my prepaid sim card in Brazil can I use that or my non prepaid phone carrier. I also plan on going to Colombia after Brazil and more than likely get a sim card there. After being set up to a Brazil sim card and changing it to a Colombian sim card can or will it effect the use from one country to another.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1750894]What's been going on player? You need to come out and join me and Pipe Layer in Thailand sometime.[/QUOTE]Whats up!

Thinking about it next year, since Brazil will be "hosting" the Olympics. Going to avoid the jacked up prices. Hitting Rio and Samapa this October.

[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1751450]Whatsapp.

I have already downloaded Whatsapp but it ask for my country and my cell phone but I never put any information in so I am at that status. I currently don' t have the phone hooked up to any USA carrier at the moment and when I hit Brazil and get a prepaid cell number do I use that or should I use my current number provided by my other non prepaid phone carrier. And will this effect anything should I use it in another country or change sim cards.[/QUOTE]You need to use your normal number. It will send a text to that number to verify. Then when it is time to pay it will do it for that number as well. No problem changing SIM cards, because after you have service it goes by the device. You can not add the same whatsapp account to run on a different device at the same time.

[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1751450]Uber.

I have downloaded this app and nothing more. Question here it ask for phone and email. As states above its not hooked up to any USA carrier. Once I get my prepaid sim card in Brazil can I use that or my non prepaid phone carrier. I also plan on going to Colombia after Brazil and more than likely get a sim card there. After being set up to a Brazil sim card and changing it to a Colombian sim card can or will it effect the use from one country to another.[/QUOTE]Again you would want to do this with your normal phone number and email. When setting up an account you have to add a credit card. And when you request a car the phone number in the account is how the driver contacts you if need be. When you arrive at your destination the amount is subtracted from your credit card and a receipt is emailed to you.

I don't think you can switch SIM cards and still use the Uber account. But you can switch SIM cards and still be in your normal whatsapp account. The best thing is to have T-mobile's simple choice plan where you have free international data. That way you really don't even need a local SIM card. I have let my numbers in various countries fall by the wayside because between whatsapp and line there is really no need for me to physically call chicks. Hell you can even call them through the apps if need be.

Hi.

I was wondering if anyone has stayed in this area before? Is it reltively
a safe area and with grocery stores, gym etc near by?

With the real hovering at 5. 40 I feel it's time to venture back to Rio. But I'm
still undecided whether Rio will be a better place to hobby before or after the Olympics.

Anyways I'm putting in the homework now. Thanks for any infos and will do daily reports when I'm there like before.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1757192]Hi.
I was wondering if anyone has stayed in this area before? Is it reltively
a safe area and with grocery stores, gym etc near by?[/QUOTE]
Rua Barão de Ipanema. A very good area! Specially between NS Cop and Av Atl.
Nice bars, botecos, sucobar and restaurantes on the same street. Supermercado Princesa one block away. Cinema Roxy as well. Banco do Brasil on the same street. Bodytech gym, 1,5 block away.

Safety. There used to be a lot of muggings on that street 10 years ago. Now it's much calmer. Just a bunch of homeless people sleeping outside the school. You should feel safe on that street. As always, just use common sense.

What street no will you stay at?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1757206]Rua Baro de Ipanema. A very good area! Specially between NS Cop and Av Atl.
Nice bars, botecos, sucobar and restaurantes on the same street. Supermercado Princesa one block away. Cinema Roxy as well. Banco do Brasil on the same street. Bodytech gym, 1,5 block away.

Safety. There used to be a lot of muggings on that street 10 years ago. Now it's much calmer. Just a bunch of homeless people sleeping outside the school. You should feel safe on that street. As always, just use common sense.

What street no will you stay at?[/QUOTE]

Hi Sperto,thanks for your quick detailed reply.
It's 2 blocks back from the beach on the right. If my memory is correct there is a metro station not too far away too.
So I'm thinking this location will be cool.

Thanks.

Hello all,

Sorry for the ignorance but can someone explain what's a club, boite, clinica, prive please.

Thanks very much.

Places with chicas.

[QUOTE=Aardvaark2010;1757556]Hello all,

Sorry for the ignorance but can someone explain what's a club, boite, clinica, prive please.

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aardvaark2010;1757556]Hello all,

Sorry for the ignorance but can someone explain what's a club, boite, clinica, prive please.

Thanks very much.[/QUOTE]A club or boite in this context is a bar where you typically pay an entrance fee, which gives you some number of drinks, and inside are supposed to be some working girls. You negotiate a fee with the girl, and then take her either to an onsite room or some hotel.

A prive is simply a brothel in a house, apartment or business. It may be a massage parlor.

A clinica is typically a massage parlor.

Usually boates are ripoffs, with only a handful of girls inside, no show, or really high prices.

I am wondering if anyone else who lives in the USA is noticing what I am noticing. I live in South Florida. For all of 2015, I have been hearing more and more Brazilian Portuguese in public places. In a Publix grocery store there was a Brazilian family in the next aisle. Yesterday in a Walmart, there was a group of Brazilian ladies shopping. A recently graduated Brazilian student was a customer at my job, who was starting her 1 year 'professional training' part of her F-1 student visa. She told me her family told her to stay in the US because there were no jobs for her in Brazil.

In the prior 4 or 5 years, I have only occasionally met Brazilians, and almost always in places that cater to Brazilian ex-pats like Brazilian restaurants. Now I am encountering Brazilians everywhere! Are any of you?

[QUOTE=George90;1760535]I am wondering if anyone else who lives in the USA is noticing what I am noticing. I live in South Florida. For all of 2015, I have been hearing more and more Brazilian Portuguese in public places. In a Publix grocery store there was a Brazilian family in the next aisle. Yesterday in a Walmart, there was a group of Brazilian ladies shopping. A recently graduated Brazilian student was a customer at my job, who was starting her 1 year 'professional training' part of her F-1 student visa. She told me her family told her to stay in the US because there were no jobs for her in Brazil. In the prior 4 or 5 years, I have only occasionally met Brazilians, and almost always in places that cater to Brazilian ex-pats like Brazilian restaurants. Now I am encountering Brazilians everywhere! Are any of you?[/QUOTE]A guy I know at the health club I go to is Brazilian. He teaches Martial Arts. His school is named after his father who taught him everything. Though he is built like a rock, he's a cool guy. He goes back to Brazil every year to see his family.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1751302]I am increasingly amused by the guys in the SP and Rio threads who are posting about not finding girls who speak English.[/QUOTE]LOL like what a surprise! Brazil only has one of the worst general levels of English I've ever experienced.

Learn some damn portuguese and take advantage of this great place and many local beauties who would love to meet someone different who treats them better but still speaks their language so they can relate.

[QUOTE=George90;1760535]

In the prior 4 or 5 years, I have only occasionally met Brazilians, and almost always in places that cater to Brazilian ex-pats like Brazilian restaurants. Now I am encountering Brazilians everywhere! Are any of you?[/QUOTE]Last time I was in South beach a few years ago I saw Brazilians all over the place and people I know who live in south Florida told me there are plenty of Brazilians there.

I live in the north east, the Brazilians have been here for many years in Boston, Newark NJ and New York has had a little Brazil street for many years. Every September they have their Brazilian independence day, this year it will be Sept 6th and it's a huge party.

I now live in a NY suburb, not many Brazilians live here but many come to work in various businesses and homes for cleaning. Every morning I take a walk past the commuter train station and the workers are getting off the train to go to homes in the neighborhood as cleaning ladies and such, sometimes we wave and say Oi and other times we stop and have a brief conversation about the weather and things, always good to hear and practice Portuguese as much as you can. Now I got my eye on a young Mexican lady, lets see what happens, she's very friendly and nice.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1760920]Last time I was in South beach a few years ago I saw Brazilians all over the place and people I know who live in south Florida told me there are plenty of Brazilians there.

I live in the north east, the Brazilians have been here for many years in Boston, Newark NJ and New York has had a little Brazil street for many years. Every September they have their Brazilian independence day, this year it will be Sept 6th and it's a huge party.

I now live in a NY suburb, not many Brazilians live here but many come to work in various businesses and homes for cleaning. Every morning I take a walk past the commuter train station and the workers are getting off the train to go to homes in the neighborhood as cleaning ladies and such, sometimes we wave and say Oi and other times we stop and have a brief conversation about the weather and things, always good to hear and practice Portuguese as much as you can. Now I got my eye on a young Mexican lady, lets see what happens, she's very friendly and nice.[/QUOTE]Brazil is the fifth largest country by population in the world.

[URL]http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats8.htm[/URL]

I meet Brazilians everywhere. Anytime there is a domestic economic downturn, people of that country look for better opportunities elsewhere.

Actually, some can't wait that long: [URL]http://www.foxsports.com/olympics/story/photo-team-mugged-while-covering-rio-olympic-test-event-081615[/URL].

[QUOTE=George90;1760535]I am wondering if anyone else who lives in the USA is noticing what I am noticing. I live in South Florida. For all of 2015, I have been hearing more and more Brazilian Portuguese in public places. In a Publix grocery store there was a Brazilian family in the next aisle. Yesterday in a Walmart, there was a group of Brazilian ladies shopping. A recently graduated Brazilian student was a customer at my job, who was starting her 1 year 'professional training' part of her F-1 student visa. She told me her family told her to stay in the US because there were no jobs for her in Brazil.

In the prior 4 or 5 years, I have only occasionally met Brazilians, and almost always in places that cater to Brazilian ex-pats like Brazilian restaurants. Now I am encountering Brazilians everywhere! Are any of you?[/QUOTE]Even in a town like Atlanta, the number of Brazilians living there has noticeably increased. The last time I was in Brazil, it was funny because I could hear the tutes talking about the arrival times of flights coming into Rio from Atlanta full of horny gringos bearing gifts LOL! They knew when those flights from the ATL were supposed to be landing LOL! Also those from the New York City metro area.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1760920]Last time I was in South beach a few years ago I saw Brazilians all over the place and people I know who live in south Florida told me there are plenty of Brazilians there.
e.[/QUOTE]When the housing bubble burst back in 2008, Brazilians and Russians started buying up all those multi-million dollar condos in Miami for cheap! My cousin is in real estate in Miami and he said Brazilians flooded the city because they were selling their homes in Rio and buying mansions in Miami for less money.

Can anyone tell me if the hotels in Sampa are still girl friendly? Its been a while since I've been there, I used to stay in Jardim near Avenida Paulista. I am also considering Ibirapurea.

Guys, not too long ago I met a fantastic girl in Brazil.

The more time we spend together, the better we get along, the more I respect and admire her and the more I genuinely care and love her.

The chemestry between us is crazy good!

I mongered for a long time, and had lots of fun, however, the time was right for me to find someone "special".

Being together and traveling together and knowing that someone really 'digs' me is great and totally satisfies me.

The 'mongering game' is obviously fun and enjoyable, and I wish all you guys the best of the best in your travels.

I still get on the ISG, mainly to get some chuckles, check up on old mates, give a little advice at times, and make some occassional sarcastic remarks.

Thats all great! However.

The funny thing is and the main reason I'm sharing this is to say it's just crazy how there is a member of this ISG that messages my girlfriend to tell her I'm still posting on the ISG (she already knew about the site itself), that I'm posting about hook-ups (which I'm not), and that I'm generally a lying scumbag, and that she should be with him, though he's never even met her in person. Crazy guy, really!!

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so pathetic really.

I've told my girlfriend everything about my past, and I know of hers.

We've put it in the past.

I'm happy now, only with her.

We talk about this guy too, that writes her, and it just baffles me how pathetic this dude is.

Dude, I know you'll read this post.

I know who you are, I'm a nice guy, but not stupid, and neither is she.

Just move on with your life.

Between Brazil and Colombia, you have literally millions of other girls to choose from!

I feel sad for you, for your actions, however, I wish you luck in moving on.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1769692]The funny thing is and the main reason I'm sharing this is to say it's just crazy how there is a member of this ISG that messages my girlfriend to tell her I'm still posting on the ISG (she already knew about the site itself), that I'm posting about hook-ups (which I'm not), and that I'm generally a lying scumbag and that she should be with him, even though he's never even met her in person. Crazy guy for real!
Between Brazil and Colombia, you have literally millions of other girls to choose from!

I feel sad for you, for your actions, however, I wish you luck in moving on.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of about 10 years ago when I was dating a chick in Montreal. I went to Rio with a buddy of mine who I had known for 15 years. When I returned from Rio, I went to my girl's house in Canada. I woke up one morning to her crying. I said what is going on? I looked over at the computer and there he is sending her X-rated pictures of me with other girls from our trip and saying what a terrible guy I am and how he would treat her right. And the kicker is that he had just recently married a Canadian chick! Seriously? All I could say to my girl was, "Well you told me to have fun. ".

I've just checked my dates again on Skyscanner and alot of new flights have been added for my dates.

For early next year. 40% down on the prices I've been seeing over the last month. It pays to wait and be patient.

£378 for a return is the best I've seen, although the return leg has an 8 hour stop wait in Paris.

If the exchange rate holds and or gets better. It's going to be a perfect trip!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1769712]Reminds me of about 10 years ago when I was dating a chick in Montreal. I went to Rio with a buddy of mine who I had known for 15 years. When I returned from Rio, I went to my girl's house in Canada. I woke up one morning to her crying. I said what is going on? I looked over at the computer and there he is sending her X-rated pictures of me with other girls from our trip and saying what a terrible guy I am and how he would treat her right. And the kicker is that he had just recently married a Canadian chick! Seriously? All I could say to my girl was, "Well you told me to have fun. ".[/QUOTE]Great Story! Your last line caused me to LOL! Thanks for sharing, and the laugh.

Excerpted here so not to clutter Reports thread.

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1775243]I don't know what the old prices were, but the cost here seems pretty high. I don't know WTF these prive owners are trying to do, but charging almost [NOPARSE]R$200[/NOPARSE] for a prive should finally provide the nail in the coffin for this casa. These places cater to 98% Brazilian men, so the positive dollar / real exchange rate does not affect them one iota. Why raise prices in accordance with the rising exchange rate? Talk about Bizarro Law of Supply and Demand. Bizarro as in the Seinfeld reference to Bizarro World. Where everything is opposite. Up is down and down is up and Bizarro Superman lives underwater and says bad bye instead of good bye.[/QUOTE]Regarding the increase in rates at Emporio do Banho, and in general in Brazil: The rate of inflation was 9. 53% in August. Few things are capable of killing an economy as fast. Wages, which often change on an annual basis, just can't keep up. Many of the middle class work for the government which is under pressure to reduce, freeze or limit increases in wages and benefits. During the US Recession, Washington DC was one of the few areas not impacted. The same is not going to happen in Brazil. How this impacts tourists in not so much financially, but through increased crime. Be careful and carry Reais, not dollars.

Help Disco closed on Jan 6, 2010. In it's place the Museum of Image and Sound, was to be built, with construction to be completed in the end of 2012. 2012 came and went. It's now 2015, and it's still not finished. Previous trips, I'd go by the area and one could hear construction noise, even at night. My last two trips not as much noise nor activity. But my last trip, saw a sign stating it would open around April 2016. (Those Brazilians are a positive bunch.) Going on 4 years behind schedule, initially budgeted at $R70 Million, I wonder how much over budget it's gone. It's finally starting to look like sumthin.

Anybody attending? Wish I was there!

[URL]http://rockinrio.com/usa/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;1775792]Anybody attending? Wish I was there!

[URL]http://rockinrio.com/usa/[/URL][/QUOTE]Globo is posting a lot of vids on youtube. Look for "multishow rock in rio 2015".

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1775344]Excerpted here so not to clutter Reports thread.

Regarding the increase in rates at Emporio do Banho, and in general in Brazil: The rate of inflation was 9. 53% in August. Few things are capable of killing an economy as fast. Wages, which often change on an annual basis, just can't keep up. Many of the middle class work for the government which is under pressure to reduce, freeze or limit increases in wages and benefits. During the US Recession, Washington DC was one of the few areas not impacted. The same is not going to happen in Brazil. How this impacts tourists in not so much financially, but through increased crime. Be careful and carry Reais, not dollars.[/QUOTE]Actually the union-negotiated wage increase (for people who have worked 12 full months) will be about 10.6% this year (this September), by law, at least for technology employees. It's a vicious circle.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1776638]Actually the union-negotiated wage increase (for people who have worked 12 full months) will be about 10.6% this year (this September), by law, at least for technology employees. It's a vicious circle.[/QUOTE]While IT jobs are increasing in Brazil, the number is small compared to those employed in the governmental sector which is where the belt tightening, not increases, will take place.

[URL]http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-14/brazil-government-said-to-unveil-14-6-billion-austerity-plan[/URL]

The minimum wage in Brazil is scheduled to increase 8.37% in January 2016 to BRL 854 a month from the current 788. The actual amount is somewhat higher when taking mandatory annual and holiday bonuses into account. Brazilians also receive a month's paid vacation.

One of the problems Brazil has is government pensions and some government salaries (which is a huge component of the Brazilian budget) are based on multiples of the minimum wage. Increase the minimum wage to help the poor and government pensions are increased.

A myopic view in this area is clearly a case of a little bit of knowledge being a dangerous thing.

Do the Centro Prives still offer 4 hands at a discount?

Used to be are $80 for one and are $120 for two, so now maybe are $120 and are $180 or so. Is that still available, it was always a great deal, and at 4 to 1 exchange an extra 15 bucks get a spare set of lips. Nice!

Cheers.

Ibiza.

Real devalued rapidly to a high of over BRL$4. 25 today before getting slammed back down after hours (to BRL$3. 93) when the head of the Brazil Central Bank announced he believes the country's dollar reserves should be used to prop up the Real.

Amazing to see such a strengthening in the Real just on his words. Let's see what happens.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1778505]Real devalued rapidly to a high of over BRL$4. 25 today before getting slammed back down after hours (to BRL$3. 93) when the head of the Brazil Central Bank announced he believes the country's dollar reserves should be used to prop up the Real.

Amazing to see such a strengthening in the Real just on his words. Let's see what happens.[/QUOTE]All except his words had nothing to do with nothing. A couple of the currencies that I monitor (including the Thai baht and the Mexican peso) did the same fall and surge against the USD within the same time period.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1778461]Do the Centro Prives still offer 4 hands at a discount?

Used to be are $80 for one and are $120 for two, so now maybe are $120 and are $180 or so. Is that still available, it was always a great deal, and at 4 to 1 exchange an extra 15 bucks get a spare set of lips. Nice!

Cheers.

Ibiza.[/QUOTE]Yes, sometimes they do have these offers.

Last year one of my favourite fast-foda casas had R$50/1 girl or R$60/2 girls. This year the priced was raized to R$50/1 girl or R$100/2 girls.
A strange way to have a dupla discount, but it works with less smart guys. I remembered once this year, while sitting in the waiting room, an average-da Silva came in for a lunch-quickie. He chose a girl and went up to the desk to pay his fifty-note. The girl asked him, why don't you enjoy our special discount R$100/2 girls? They guy said "woooow great" and quickly pulled up one more fifty-note, took another girl and went to the cabins satisfied with his good deal.

I noticed your old wingman Full Throttle in the São Paulo thread. Any chance of reading some new Full Throttle & Ibiza007 centro reports in the future?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1778807]Yes, sometimes they do have these offers.

Last year one of my favourite fast-foda casas had R$50/1 girl or R$60/2 girls. This year the priced was raized to R$50/1 girl or R$100/2 girls.
A strange way to have a dupla discount, but it works with less smart guys. I remembered once this year, while sitting in the waitingroom, an average-da Silva came in for a lunch-quickie. He chose a girl and went up to the desk to pay his fifty-note. The girl asked him, why don't you enjoy our special discount R$100/2 girls? They guy said "woooow great" and quickly pulled up one more fifty-note, took another girl and went to the cabins satisfied with his good deal.

I noticed your old wingman Full Throttle in the So Paulo thread. Any chance of reading some new Full Throttle & Ibiza007 centro reports in the future?[/QUOTE]FT is going to soon be back on the ground. I wish I could hit the town with him, but probably not this trip. If anyone is around I highly recommend they try to connect with him and a great will be had for sure.

I miss the duplas, what a great way to spend an hour or two.

Ibiza.

As some of you long term posters and lurkers may know I've been looking to get down to BR for almost a decade.

Well I finally have things in order and was originally planning to go down for a month or more.

However I have seen some aggressive online flight pricing and I might take advantage. The problem is the best price thus far is for seven days in early Dec. Is seven days accounting for jet lag on both ends enough?

This is not a 100% mongering trip, I want to find somebody special as some of the long time posters have found. But I also want to experience some delights of GDP's.

I know about the areas more in-town than near the beach with some good affordable options, any favorites stand out and how much should I budget for these experiences?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DJFourMoney;1781463]As some of you long term posters and lurkers may know I've been looking to get down to BR for almost a decade.
Is seven days accounting for jet lag on both ends enough?

This is not a 100% mongering trip, I want to find somebody special as some of the long time posters have found. But I also want to experience some delights of GDP's.[/QUOTE]Damn. I thought you had gotten married. Aren't you coming from USA? There should not be any jet lag going to South America. Then again I am used to going back and forth to Asia and Europe so it may be more noticeable to you. Just take a nap at the right time and you should be okay.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1781524]Damn. I thought you had gotten married. Aren't you coming from USA? There should not be any jet lag going to South America. Then again I am used to going back and forth to Asia and Europe so it may be more noticeable to you. Just take a nap at the right time and you should be okay.[/QUOTE]LOL! Not yet; maybe in the next 24 months will see. Of course I'm coming from the US (LAX). I don't think I'll experience jet lag, haven't thus far.

I have been assisting some friends on getting a Brazilian visa. We went through a visa service for NY, it takes 5 weeks just to get an appointment at the embassy and then it takes 4 more weeks to get the visa done. Each consulate or embassy might have different timeframes so keep this in mind.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1782172]I have been assisting some friends on getting a Brazilian visa. We went through a visa service for NY, it takes 5 weeks just to get an appointment at the embassy and then it takes 4 more weeks to get the visa done. Each consulate or embassy might have different timeframes so keep this in mind.[/QUOTE]That is wild. Here in Atlanta you get the visa the same day as your appointment. I went about noon and came back at 3pm to pick it up. Also, it was easy to get an appointment. You just go online and click a date and time that was open. Try doing it on your own instead of paying a service (unless you do not live in the vicinity of an embassy or consulate.)

I recently got a visa in NY. I panicked when I saw that the consulate's website said something like 3 weeks (15 business days) for a visa, however I just went anyway and got one in about a week. You need to schedule an appointment on the website, and time slots can fill up fast. Bring a book, though, due to delays from dumbasses not coming when their number is called.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1782172]I have been assisting some friends on getting a Brazilian visa. We went through a visa service for NY, it takes 5 weeks just to get an appointment at the embassy and then it takes 4 more weeks to get the visa done. Each consulate or embassy might have different timeframes so keep this in mind.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;1782457]I recently got a visa in NY. I panicked when I saw that the consulate's website said something like 3 weeks (15 business days) for a visa, however I just went anyway and got one in about a week. You need to schedule an appointment on the website, and time slots can fill up fast. Bring a book, though, due to delays from dumbasses not coming when their number is called.[/QUOTE]How long do the visa last? 5 or 10 Years? I'm confused because of the website. I wish Brazil would get rid of this stupid visa process. Especially with there economy in free fall. They need all the tourist they can get!. The Visa Hassle Makes it a pain.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1782172]I have been assisting some friends on getting a Brazilian visa. We went through a visa service for NY, it takes 5 weeks just to get an appointment at the embassy and then it takes 4 more weeks to get the visa done. Each consulate or embassy might have different timeframes so keep this in mind.[/QUOTE]Los Angeles is about a week I just checked.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1782751]How long do the visa last? 5 or 10 Years? [/QUOTE]The visa is good for 10 years.

This article gives a good, brief look at how the carnival system works in Rio.

[URL]http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20140228-the-biggest-carnival-to-date[/URL]

Cheers.

Ibiza.

One way to deal with non-contributors is to put them on ignore that way they will not see your contributions and cannot PM you. There are ways around this but it is at least good first cut.

I wan to provide a link to the new plan being offered by Google. It is pretty new.

[URL]http://www.androidauthority.com/google-project-fi-review-641204/[/URL]

Is has international roaming for free and international text messages for free. So it could be a way to cheaply text every girl in Rio for free with a USA phone and not have to buy local chips and sims. The calling rates are really cheap to use your phone to a cell in Brasil.

It just looks easier than dealing with Vivo, TIM, Oi, etc, if you are just there for a few days. I remember when I lived in Rio it was fucking expensive to use a phone, maybe better now.

All the details are on google's site. It is called the google "fi" program, really low cost to use and runs on T-mobile and Sprint, (I think they have both in Rio), so it is both CDMA and GSM in one package.

Maybe as info is learned on this it could develop its own thread as this will be a cost effective way to have a phone in Brasil, and buying data is affordable, which I do not think short term data buys in Brazil are cheap now. For searching this forum from a cafe it will be really cheap if no Wi Fi is freely available. Buying data is super low cost (global data), and they refund what you do not use each month. $10 for a gig, and they refund $5 if you only use 500 mb that month.

I would be curious to see how it compares to even using a local phone, as I remember burning through local pone cards in minutes and even contract plans had shit for minutes and super high priced data rates for the cell network. Anybody living in Rio might look at it and see how it compares.

As we all know, wi fi is free, so no need to compare to Wi Fi, just the pay as you go rates, and local plans.

One catch is you have to have a google 5 x or 6 phone.

Check out the google nexus site for more info. I need to study it more, but even better is to have this group look at it and decide if it is worth a shit for certain situations.

So, I hope this helps. I will use this traveling globally as it looks like a great deal, and super cheap. Google is always up to something good!

Cheers.

Ibiza.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1789217]I wan to provide a link to the new plan being offered by Google. It is pretty new.

[URL]http://www.androidauthority.com/google-project-fi-review-641204/[/URL]

Is has international roaming for free and international text messages for free. So it could be a way to cheaply text every girl in Rio for free with a USA phone and not have to buy local chips and sims. The calling rates are really cheap to use your phone to a cell in Brasil.
[/QUOTE]T-mobile Simple Choice Plan offers unlimited data and text, also 20 cents / minute to call local number. Project Fi also charging 20 cents / minute to call local number. The problem in Brazil with the data is the speed, it's slow. Texting was a little slow too. Brazil's cellular networks can not handle the capacity. Tmobile Simple Choice Plan is also Global. [URL]http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/roaming.html?icid=WMD_TM_INTRNTNLVR_N8J6LRGJILD2658[/URL].

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1789391]T-mobile Simple Choice Plan offers unlimited data and text, also 20 cents / minute to call local number. Project Fi also charging 20 cents / minute to call local number. The problem in Brazil with the data is the speed, it's slow. Texting was a little slow too. Brazil's cellular networks can not handle the capacity.

T-mobile Simple Choice Plan is also Global. [URL]http://www.t-mobile.com/optional-services/roaming.html?icid=WMD_TM_INTRNTNLVR_N8J6LRGJILD2658[/URL].[/QUOTE]I thought T. Mobile had a good internation plan, but I am not sure as I have not used it.

Google fi rates (Wi fi calls to land lines and mobile).

Country / Region Rate per minute USD.

Brazil. Belo Horizonte 1 .

Brazil. Landline 1 .

Brazil. Mobile 6 .

Brazil. Rio de Janeiro 1 .

Brazil. Sao Paulo 1 .

(source. Google).

These are the google Wi Fi rates, to land lines and cellular phones in Brazil, should be the same rate if calling via wifi from a cafe in Rio, using Fi.

I do not see SP mobile but I bet it is 6 cents like Rio. I think this is way better than the local rates from Claro, Oi, Tim, Vivo, etc. When you buy pay as you go.

Maybe Skype and Viber are just as cheap to mobiles.

One drawback to google is you need a google phone, at least for now, looks like it will be available on other devices soon. But you can use google Fi on other devices according to their web site. It says ipads etc will work? Probably just the Wi Fi calling, as a phone needs to have both CDMA and GSM radios, so only a few phones have that dual radio with all the bands (Iphone 6 /6 + does).

How do these local calling rates compare to T- Mobile?

It looks like cellular to cellular is 20 cents, but the wi fi rates look good.

Probably similar as Google Fi uses either T mobile or sprint.

I hope this helps, I am just offering it as an idea to maybe save some money and the hassle of having to buy a local chip. Do you need a CPF to get a chip? Probably not anymore. Last time I was in SP, they were selling 5 real chips everywhere on the street.

Does WassApp have direct calling of mobile to mobile (non WiFi) for a fee? I only use the messenger part for free.

The whole Fi thing could be crap, I am just learning about the details. Maybe there are many better options.

I don't think I've used wifi calling to call a local number when I've been in Rio. I have used wifi calling to call back to the US from Rio and other places. Big difference between Tmobile and Goggle Fi: Tmobile wouldn't charge you.

"And it's super easy to get unlimited talk and text over Wi-Fi. Every time you connect to a Wi-Fi network your phone is ready to go. And the great news: Your phone will automatically connect whenever you're in range. The greater news? You don't have to install an extra app, it'll just work. At no additional cost. For all T-Mobile customers with a Wi-Fi Calling capable device. "

[URL]http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/wifi-calling-wifi-extenders.html[/URL]

The big caveat here is the WiFi connection. All good if it's strong. If not, dropped calls, echo when talking and sometimes you can't hear each other. Another thing I noticed, the phone would disconnect from the WiFi signal even if it was strong. Sometimes I had to reboot to reconnect. (This on my Galaxy S4, since upgraded.) I experienced this in other countries too. Lastly, in order to activate wifi calling, (Tmo requirement, don't know about other carriers,) a wifi call has to be made prior to leaving the US.
BTW, there is a "Using Cell phones in Brazil" Thread here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2833-Using-Cell-Phones-in-Brazil[/URL]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1789727]I don't think I've used wifi calling to call a local number when I've been in Rio. I have used wifi calling to call back to the US from Rio and other places. Big difference between Tmobile and Goggle Fi: Tmobile wouldn't charge you.

"And it's super easy to get unlimited talk and text over Wi-Fi. Every time you connect to a Wi-Fi network your phone is ready to go. And the great news: Your phone will automatically connect whenever you're in range. The greater news? You don't have to install an extra app, it'll just work. At no additional cost. For all T-Mobile customers with a Wi-Fi Calling capable device. "

[URL]http://www.t-mobile.com/offer/wifi-calling-wifi-extenders.html[/URL]

The big caveat here is the WiFi connection. All good if it's strong. If not, dropped calls, echo when talking and sometimes you can't hear each other. Another thing I noticed, the phone would disconnect from the WiFi signal even if it was strong. Sometimes I had to reboot to reconnect. (This on my Galaxy S4, since upgraded.) I experienced this in other countries too. Lastly, in order to activate wifi calling, (Tmo requirement, don't know about other carriers,) a wifi call has to be made prior to leaving the US.
BTW, there is a "Using Cell phones in Brazil" Thread here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2833-Using-Cell-Phones-in-Brazil[/URL][/QUOTE]If you are not on T mobile already, what is the minimum to use for month, or just to use few days even? Is it a $50 minimum for the service with international data, etc.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1792930]If you are not on T mobile already, what is the minimum to use for month, or just to use few days even? Is it a $50 minimum for the service with international data, etc. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, $50 bucks a month if you go with the contract. Add about $30 in taxes. They also have a $30 prepaid plan with no data, the $40 prepaid doesn't include international. (Prices are in USD.) For more plan info goto:

[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JavaMan;1792945]Yes, $50 bucks a month if you go with the contract. Add about $30 in taxes. They also have a $30 prepaid plan with no data, the $40 prepaid doesn't include international. (Prices are in USD.) For more plan info goto:

[URL]https://www.t-mobile.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]What is the best rate from your mobile, on wifi connection, to a honey, say on the bus? 20 cents or less a minute? Does T mbl have a plan for less than 20 cents, non wifi.

Skype would be 5-6 cents. The t. Mobile customer service said 20 cents, no special rate for wifi to mobile. Is that correct?

If I want / need to make 300 minutes of calls in 2 weeks from my cell (in Rio), on wifi, to her / any non-wifi mobile, would it cost me $60 (300 x 20 cents) plus my monthly fee ($50)? I could do the same minutes with skype for $15 vs $110.

I would not get the free data and texts without t-mb, just comparing the actual calling.

Thanks, it sounds like you are on T mb, but I am ATT and would need to buy it for one month only.

Thanks.

The t mbl rate for cell to cell (20 cents) , both phones non wifi is good, and handy if no wifi available, that is a benefit of the service, and could be worth the monthly fee just for that feature. Their rate is much better than other US carriers when roaming, for sure.

What are the rates now within network, say Tim to Tim? How about crossing networks, that is expensive, about twice as much or more?

100 reals buys how many minutes?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1792964]The t mbl rate for cell to cell (20 cents) , both phones non wifi is good, and handy if no wifi available, that is a benefit of the service, and could be worth the monthly fee just for that feature. Their rate is much better than other US carriers when roaming, for sure.

What are the rates now within network, say Tim to Tim? How about crossing networks, that is expensive, about twice as much or more?

100 reals buys how many minutes?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]T-mobile, while in Brazil you can make any call to any phone in Brazil for. 20 cents a minute whether on wifi or not it's the same price.

If you live in the states and you are in Brazil for a holiday you can call home for. 20 cents a minute non-Wifi or free on Wifi.

I just used it and called many numbers in Rio and reception was perfect, calling home whether wifi or not was perfect also.

I have an Iphone and used WhatsApp thru tmobile all the time as well as texting back to the states via wifi.

I'm very happy with this T-mobile feature, comes in very handy when travelling.

Also data and text are free at 3G while in Brazil.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1793921]T-mobile, while in Brazil you can make any call to any phone in Brazil for. 20 cents a minute whether on wifi or not it's the same price.

If you live in the states and you are in Brazil for a holiday you can call home for. 20 cents a minute non-Wifi or free on Wifi.

I just used it and called many numbers in Rio and reception was perfect, calling home whether wifi or not was perfect also.

I have an Iphone and used WhatsApp thru tmobile all the time as well as texting back to the states via wifi.

I'm very happy with this T-mobile feature, comes in very handy when travelling.

Also data and text are free at 3G while in Brazil.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I will use both T mobile and the google fi and see how it shakes out.

Obrigado.

How easy is it now to buy a 'Pay as you go' SIM card for my phone? When I was.
in Brazil last, I think a brazilian had to buy one for me, and show a utility bill for ID or somthing?
Is this still the case?

Is there a shop in Copa that I can go to, to get one?

Thanks for help.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1795585]How easy is it now to buy a 'Pay as you go' SIM card for my phone? When I was.
in Brazil last, I think a brazilian had to buy one for me, and show a utility bill for ID or somthing?
Is this still the case?

Is there a shop in Copa that I can go to, to get one?

Thanks for help.[/QUOTE]Actually there is a cell phone thread. You'll find the information you're looking for in the thread "Using Cell Phones in Brazil".

Thanks Sperto.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1795636]Actually there is a cell phone thread. You'll find the information you're looking for in the thread "Using Cell Phones in Brazil".[/QUOTE]

An example of an absurd price increase:
Correios, Brazil Post, increases their prices.

E.g sending a parcel 20 kg from Brazil to Europe using Mercadoria Econômica, which is the cheapest option.
Price:
-2007 (?): R$58
2007-2013: R$296
2014: R$419
2015: R$541

Today Daniela Cicarelli won the contest, Miss Bumbum Brasil 2015.
[URL]http://odia.ig.com.br/diversao/celebridades/2015-11-10/sosia-de-daniela-cicarelli-vence-miss-bumbum-brasil-2015.html[/URL]
[URL]http://missbumbumbrasil.com.br[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1798881]Today Daniela Cicarelli won the contest, Miss Bumbum Brasil 2015.
[URL]http://odia.ig.com.br/diversao/celebridades/2015-11-10/sosia-de-daniela-cicarelli-vence-miss-bumbum-brasil-2015.html[/URL]
[URL]http://missbumbumbrasil.com.br[/URL][/QUOTE]Did a search to make sure the "woman" in the video, Juliana Isen, was not a transvestite. The squaring of the jawline, deepening of the voice is what happens when these women overdo the steroids.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1798881]Today Daniela Cicarelli won the contest, Miss Bumbum Brasil 2015.
[URL]http://odia.ig.com.br/diversao/celebridades/2015-11-10/sosia-de-daniela-cicarelli-vence-miss-bumbum-brasil-2015.html[/URL]
[URL]http://missbumbumbrasil.com.br[/URL][/QUOTE]Hi Sperto.

Isn't Daniela Cicarelli the past host of a TV show? The show was like an MTV show with frog costumes and a dating game for kisses. She even has a beer bottle named after her, because of her big mouth.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniella_Cicarelli[/URL]

I think they are saying the winners ass looks like Cicarelli. Maybe I am reading it incorrect, But Cicarelli is no spring chicken these days.

Here is a link to google photos of her, she is now 36.
No link, it just put her name in google images and hundreds of nice fotos of her there. She is 5'10. super cute.

"Daniela Cicarelli look-alike Butt wins Miss Brazil 2015". from site

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1798947]I think they are saying the winners ass looks like Cicarelli. Maybe I am reading it incorrect, But Cicarelli is no spring chicken these days.[/QUOTE]You're right. The winners name is Suzy Cortez. I just payed attention to the steroid-asses, not the article.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1798968]You're right. The winners name is Suzy Cortez. I just payed attention to the steroid-asses, not the article.[/QUOTE]The asses are amazing! Thanks for the link.

Cheers.

Sorry to be so ignorant, but what is a Prive and how does it work?

I've seen the term in some of the trip reports and have not heard it before.

I mongered for a while in the early 2000 nds and am looking to take it up again.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=SlutLuster;1802936]Sorry to be so ignorant, but what is a Prive and how does it work?
I've seen the term in some of the trip reports and have not heard it before.[/QUOTE]Privê is an anonymous brothel without any signs. When you arrive, normally a "receptionist" leads you to a waiting room (or a cabin) and tell their prices. The girls comes by one by one, present themselves, answer your questions about what they do or don't. Now it's the time to make a quick interview. Does she do BBBJ, CIM, anal and if possible check out her body closer.

When the presentation is over the receptionist comes back and ask you if you want any of the girls. You tell her which girl you want. Payment can be in advance or afterwards. You take a shower, sometimes in the room, sometimes in the hall and sometimes there are no showers to use.

Then the girl arrive in the room/cabin and you session. When the time is finished they let you know. You shower again and leave.

There are the upscale privées like Belprazer, Dudas, Massagem Tijuca with many girls and good comfort. Those are expensive. The customers are usually businessmen.
Then you have the middlescale privées with fewer girls. Often with shower outside the room/cabin. Decent prices.
Lastly you have the cheap lowscale privées, like U22, Carioca 59 etc. Very simple cabins with walls that doesn't reach the ceiling and no showers for the customers. The average customer is the local guy with a small wallet.

The more you pay the better comfort you get, but not necessarily better quality of the girls. The cheaper privées can have gems.

Good luck!

To all my many Brazilian friends, Happy Zumbi dos Palmares day.

And, for those sucking on the government teat, either now or collecting that generous pension, a belated Happy DIA do Servidor Público.

For those of you planning your Rio excursion and worried that your favorite haunt might be closed, here is site with a list of holidays.

[URL]http://www.officeholidays.com/countries/brazil/[/URL]

Wouldn't it be fun of we had a Hall of Fame with old Rio characters?

The guys at the ho-beach had a lot of odd characters.
Fiscal da Natureza, the slippery guy who sold sun protection to the GPs and passed the days passing sun oil on GP-bundasAssistente, Fiscal da Naturezas assistente. Came to the beach every day at 7.30 building a perfect sand pyramid to the Fiscal da Natureza to put his products on.
Balls guy, the fat old beer vendor with the huge balls.
Paulinho, the beer vendor, with something that looked like a bullet wound next to his belly button.
Weird Italiano, the old fat Italiano who always spent the whole day at the beach. Always on the exact same spot. He had Balls guy to mark his spot every morning with his specially made beach bed with a sun roof.
The bearded photographer. The old guy at the beach taking photo of gringo's and GP's on ho-beach. Probably the most lousy photographer ever born, but he made a show out of taking his pictures.
The Crazy dog, the black and white totally crazy dove-chasing dog running around on ho-each barking and scaring everybody.
The Chiclete lady. The old toothless lady selling chewing gum outside Help. Always standing at the entrance of Help trying to sell expensive chiclete to gringo's.

And the mongers..
The Colonel. An old brit living in Rio. Always sitting outside Help telling fake stories and being very proud of not setting his feet on the beach for at least 10 years.
Bob, the American guy struggling with his business on Rua Xavier da Silveira. Slippery American always looking like a living dead.
O Professor, an old thin haired Swedish guy giving language lessons at Meia Pataca. Always broke and with a weakness that got him beaten up more than once.
The Sheep, the old Italian guy with colored black hair and white shirts, hanging outside Help. Exactly looking an old sad sheep. Sometimes armed with a revolver.
The Hunchback, an old very fat bearded American guy with a deformed neck and a weird neckless hanging outside Help.
Fat Charlie Chaplin, another old fat guy hanging on ho-beach smoking cigars. His belly was the size of a planet. He probably paid well as he always left with new girls.

The list could go on forever.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Wouldn't it be fun of we had a Hall of Fame with old Rio characters?

.........

The list could go on forever...[/QUOTE]Probably! But I suspect the GP's would want add one Sperto to the list. . LOL.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Wouldn't it be fun of we had a Hall of Fame with old Rio characters?

The guys at the ho-beach had a lot of odd characters.
Fiscal da Natureza, the slippery guy who sold sunprotection to the GPs and passed the days passing sun oil on GP-bundas
Assistente, Fiscal da Naturezas assistente. Came to the beach every day at 7.30 building a perfect sand pyramid to the Fiscal da Natureza to put his products on.
Balls guy, the fat old beer vendor with the huge balls.
Paulinho, the beer vendor, with something that looked like a bullet wound next to his belly button.
Weird Italiano, the old fat Italiano who always spent the whole day at the beach. Always on the exact same spot. He had Balls guy to mark his spot every morning with his specially made beach bed with a sun roof.
The bearded photographer. The old guy at the beach taking photo of gringo's and GP's on ho-beach. Probably the most lousy photographer ever born, but he made a show out of taking his pictures.
The Crazy dog, the black and white totally crazy dove-chasing dog running around on ho-each barking and scaring everybody.
The Chiclete lady. The old toothless lady selling chewing gum outside Help. Always standing at the entrance of Help trying to sell expensive chiclete to gringo's.


The list could go on forever...[/QUOTE]Anybody remember Louis, who worked for Washington, he could spot you across the street and have your chair, umbrella and skol ready before you crossed over Ave Atlantica. I remember that dog too, I was so amazed he lived crossing Ave Atlantica every day. And the guy selling the belly bags with the oversized zippers that he bought in centro and simply doubled the price. Anybody remember a skinny blond inside Help, she was always with the high rollers, the bottle guys, a real pros pro. I never knew her name, but she was always busy.

There was a little white girl at ho beach every day, she was tanned almost black. I wonder if her skin looks and feels like a catchers mitt these days.

It was heaven. Helpeee was an amazing place full of old Italians with bad rugs.

Thanks for the memories Sperto.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Bob, the American guy struggling with his business on Rua Xavier da Silveira. Slippery American always looking like a living dead.[/QUOTE]Its a shame what happened to Bobby. I hope his establishment makes a full recovery.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Wouldn't it be fun of we had a Hall of Fame with old Rio characters?

The guys at the ho-beach had a lot of odd characters.
Fiscal da Natureza, the slippery guy who sold sunprotection to the GPs and passed the days passing sun oil on GP-bundas
Assistente, Fiscal da Naturezas assistente.

The list could go on forever...[/QUOTE]I remember Fiscal, he also used to water the girls down to keep them cool and apply that white paste to die their hair, I have some videos of him somewhere and a pic of the old Chiclette lady.

I also knew the Professor, spoke to him a few years back but don't see him anymore. There was also a guy name Jefferson who found out about Rio during a car race from Ohio to Argentina, he lived in Rio and drove like a purple Volkswagen bug, he had a friend called Video Bob who always walked around with a video camera on the beach and in Help during Carnaval, you mentioned him before plus he had a friend Bob Wilson who was like crippled and had a Christmas tree in his apartment because he said everyday was Christmas in Rio.

There was a group of guys called the Carioca Brothers bunch of guys from DC and elsewhere, one guy was a doctor and married, he wouldn't tell his wife ahead of time he was going to Rio until he got to the airport then he would call her and get on the plane.

There were a bunch of characters at Meia Pataca back in the day that a lot of them have passed now, such a shame.

I knew Bobby from Blame it on Rio for close to 20 years now, he tried starting several different businesses through the years one was trying to sell Pretzels to the Cariocas and he got the name Pretzel Bobby. A friend of mine recently went to his latest wedding but I heard he went back to the states to Miami but will be back by Christmas, What happen to him? Health, business down?

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;1803820]... he had a friend called Video Bob who always walked around with a video camera on the beach and in Help during Carnaval, you mentioned him before...[/QUOTE]In the beginning of the nineties I filmed many hours in the Carnival Balls. Baile Vermelho e Preto (Flamengo) at Scala, Baile das Panteras at Monte Libano and Baile de Adão e Eva at Help. Tons of naked titties, bundas and pink flesh. I also filmed quite a lot on ho-beach. Back then videocameras was quite a novelty so the girls posed very happily. No risk of somebody putting them on social networks.

Wherever I went filming I always saw Video-Bob around, filming with exactly the same Sony Camcorder as I had. He mentioned he made Carnival films which he sold on VHS. Maybe some of his films can be found on the internet?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Wouldn't it be fun of we had a Hall of Fame with old Rio characters?

The guys at the ho-beach had a lot of odd characters.

Balls guy, the fat old beer vendor with the huge balls.[/QUOTE]Don't know what was bigger, his balls or his belly.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]The bearded photographer. The old guy at the beach taking photo of gringo's and GP's on ho-beach. Probably the most lousy photographer ever born, but he made a show out of taking his pictures.[/QUOTE]He also took pictures in front of Help. They stopped selling Polaroid film in Brazil so he would always have me or my buddy bring it for him from the States.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]The Chiclete lady. The old toothless lady selling chewing gum outside Help. Always standing at the entrance of Help trying to sell expensive chiclete to gringo's.[/QUOTE]Damn lady tried to get me to take her with me last December when I was in Bal-Co-Nee.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803712]Bob, the American guy struggling with his business on Rua Xavier da Silveira. Slippery American always looking like a living dead.[/QUOTE]Joker went from tour agency to laundromat. I guess the pretzels were before my time.

Need to add a buddy of mine to the list. He would bring 800 outfits and change clothes 3 times a day to be around hookers. He also had them keep his personal bottle of hot sauce in the kitchen at Meia Pataca.

Damn Copacabana. That was the shit.

A buddy of mine is making his maiden trip tomorrow night. One of his friends hooked him up with some chick that was supposed to meet him at the airport. She also said she could get him an apartment, but told him he would have to Western Union the money, $300, beforehand. Good thing he is a seasoned traveler. He told her that he would just take his chances and wait until he got there. So he is going down with no Portuguese and no place to stay. My man. Here is a picture of the girl.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1803890]
Wherever I went filming I always saw Video-Bob around, filming with exactly the same Sony Camcorder as I had. He mentioned he made Carnival films which he sold on VHS. Maybe some of his films can be found on the internet?[/QUOTE]Yes he sold those VHS tapes, he made about 2 every year and made enough money each year to fund all his trips to Brazil. I knew him well and I have most of his tapes, I had them on youtube few years back but they require so much editing because of the nudity. He was a very interesting character, passed away in 2012 at 79 but up to that point was still going strong in Rio going to centro everyday visiting the prives with his possy.

An ex GDP from a high-end Termas here, who is approaching the Wall (30), just took a job as a receptionist at a salon where she makes about are $850/ month for 8 hours of work 5. 5 days per week.

Do the math on that next time you think about overpaying girls here "because you can afford it. ".

Oh yeah, the money above is before tax but doesn't include Vale Tranporte. She doesn't get health insurance or Vale Refeicao.

-Cartman.

Thanks Sperto and Mr Ent.

I heard from sources that Paulinho passed away recently. I will be back in Rio in ten days after a two year hiatus, AA had theses crazy fares ($443 round trip) that I couldn't pass up.

Bobby recently sent this mass email asking for $25,0000 from all his friends and clients, heard he was robbed at gunpoint last year and the thieves took at least 40,000 Reais from his store.

[QUOTE=Carrib;1803994]Bobby recently sent this mass email asking for $25,0000 from all his friends and clients, heard he was robbed at gunpoint last year and the thieves took at least 40,000 Reais from his store.[/QUOTE]I got that e-mail (didn't send any money). Apparently he got robbed twice. Question I had is what the hell did he have that much money laying around in his store for anyway? And you'd think he would learn a lesson after being hit the first time. According to his e-mail, if he didn't get the money he was asking for, then he would have to go out of business like after 15 years or something like that.

[QUOTE=Carrib;1803994]

Bobby recently sent this mass email asking for $25,0000 from all his friends and clients, heard he was robbed at gunpoint last year and the thieves took at least 40,000 Reais from his store.[/QUOTE]Glad I'm not on his mailig list anymore, this is typical Bobby, I got one of these emails over 15 years ago from him telling me how much he had helped me in the past making hotel reservations and now he needed my help. What a joke!

Here is the youtube video link for those who want to know about the situation. I think its quite sad. Never done any business with Bobby but I did find him conveniently resourceful a time or two.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wE6QLFx4SY[/URL]

A shame that Blame It On Rio got robbed. Most Casa de cambios seems to have quite good security with a closed secure area where they stack the money, at least one armed guard and probably alarm buttons. Maybe Bobby lacked in security? Then he should blame it on himself (and not on Rio).

Being a gringo in Rio, who does business involving large amounts of money, means that you easily becomes a target. Balcony David also got robbed and lost way more than Bobby lost.

[QUOTE=UpCountry;1804445]Nice Picture. Great Arse. Que culo mas grande. Temptating.[/QUOTE]During the middle ages some of the royal courts had court jesters. They were short guys in funny costumes and hats with small bells. Their job was to entertain, perform in comic styles and make funny jokes and songs. I.e, as soon as somebody post a photo the court jester shows up with a comment in misspelled Portuñol.
Keep up the good work, UpCountry.

Looks like for the Olympics they are going to waive the visa for some countries. Which is just as well because in order to get a Visa now in New York the next available date for an appointment is January 12 and it takes 1 week after that to process the paperwork. I recently got visas for some travel partners and first I sent everything to a VISA service called CIBT, they knew my travel dates but never informed me that they will have my visas 1 week after my trip is supposed to start. I found this out myself by checking the status online. Then they sent me all my paperwork back and I made my own appointment where I would have received the visas 3 days before departure which is not so bad but they say processing times can vary. Then I checked everyday to see if there were any cancellations and I got one I noticed on a Friday for the next week, I quickly re-did all the paperwork and made another appointment and got the visas in one week. Plan accordingly!

[URL]http://www2.anba.com.br/noticia/21869706/sports/rousseff-sanctions-visa-waiver-law/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RioBob;1806732]Looks like for the Olympics they are going to waive the visa for some countries. Which is just as well because in order to get a Visa now in New York the next available date for an appointment is January 12 and it takes 1 week after that to process the paperwork. I recently got visas for some travel partners and first I sent everything to a VISA service called CIBT, they knew my travel dates but never informed me that they will have my visas 1 week after my trip is supposed to start. I found this out myself by checking the status online. Then they sent me all my paperwork back and I made my own appointment where I would have received the visas 3 days before departure which is not so bad but they say processing times can vary. Then I checked everyday to see if there were any cancellations and I got one I noticed on a Friday for the next week, I quickly re-did all the paperwork and made another appointment and got the visas in one week. Plan accordingly!

[URL]http://www2.anba.com.br/noticia/21869706/sports/rousseff-sanctions-visa-waiver-law/[/URL][/QUOTE]Well it makes sense especially if they want alot of tourist. The whole paying $160 for a visa will deter anybody, I almost did not want to get my visa because the whole hassle of paying $160 for a stupid visa, Its only because I get the best pornstar experience Sex in Brazil, If these Brazilian women were like DR chicks in bed, I would never visit Brazil ever again if I had to pay a visa fee.

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Hi.

I've just realised that I am arriving on Sat 26th March. Will the whole
of Rio be on shut down for this weekend holiday? And is it just the Friday.
and Sunday?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1803895]
A buddy of mine is making his maiden trip tomorrow night. One of his friends hooked him up with some chick that was supposed to meet him at the airport. She also said she could get him an apartment, but told him he would have to Western Union the money, $300, beforehand. Good thing he is a seasoned traveler. He told her that he would just take his chances and wait until he got there. So he is going down with no Portuguese and no place to stay. My man. Here is a picture of the girl.[/QUOTE]We did WU to prepay our apartments in Rio. The broker was a Brazilian chick, a friend of a guy we knew from Sosua and Medellin. WU for apartment rental is a red flag, and WU warns against it on their website. I googled it and found that it wasn't uncommon for Rio. I wasn't the first person who was uneasy about sending my cash into a black box. We pulled the trigger and sent about $250 each as a prepay for two apartments on Avenida Atlantica and Miguel Lemos.

We arrived in Rio. Our apartments were ready and just as advertised. Feel free to PM me for the contact.

[QUOTE=KConstant;1808205]We did WU to prepay our apartments in Rio. The broker was a Brazilian chick, a friend of a guy we knew from Sosua and Medellin. WU for apartment rental is a red flag, and WU warns against it on their website. I googled it and found that it wasn't uncommon for Rio.[/QUOTE]That is funny. I wonder if the guy in Sosua is the same guy that hooked my buddy up with the girl. I originally met my boy in Sosua because we were both dealing with two girls who were sisters. Get back home and go to the barber shop and just so happen that he and I go to the same damn barber shop. Small world. He did end up meeting up with the girl and getting a 2 BR apartment from her on Av. Atlantica for $70.

Lets say 10 years ago, before Brazil became expensive and the forum turned into take-without-sharing forum with just sex-stories about mongers who smokes d*pe, get their ass licked and gave multiple orgasms to GPs. Before that the forum used to be really good.
One good discussion was what to give as gifts to the girls. Not just gifts to be kind, but also gifts for exchange for sex.

Chocolate still works. No Brazilian girl can resist some good European chocolate.
Perfumes, yes. At least in Europe they could be bought for much less than in Brazil.
Silver piercings used to be equal to a f*ck, but that's history.
Cellular phones, no. They want the latest models which are expensive.
Victoria Secrets underwear. Maybe.
Victoria Secrets lotions. Yes.
Digital cameras, a bit too expensive.

I usually bring chocolates. Sometimes they finish earlier than planned, after a wet night out partying. Then it's good to have a reserve, a bunch of small gifts that takes up no space, like necklaces with hearts made of cristals (can be bought for 50 centavos in Brazil).

Somebody else happy to sharing gifts ideas? Christmas is close.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1809330]Lets say 10 years ago, before Brazil became expensive and the forum turned into take-without-sharing forum with just sex-stories about mongers who smokes d*pe, get their ass licked and gave multiple orgasms to GPs. Before that the forum used to be really good.
One good discussion was what to give as gifts to the girls. Not just gifts to be kind, but also gifts for exchange for sex.

Chocolate still works. No Brazilian girl can resist some good European chocolate.
Perfumes, yes. At least in Europe they could be bought for much less than in Brazil.
Silver piercings used to be equal to a f*ck, but that's history.
Cellular phones, no. They want the latest models which are expensive.
Victoria Secrets underwear. Maybe.
Victoria Secrets lotions. Yes.
Digital cameras, a bit too expensive.

I usually bring chocolates. Sometimes they finish earlier than planned, after a wet night out partying. Then it's good to have a reserve, a bunch of small gifts that takes up no space, like necklaces with hearts made of cristals (can be bought for 50 centavos in Brazil).

Somebody else happy to sharing gifts ideas? Christmas is close.[/QUOTE]Sperto, I still always pick up the following when I am in the USA and (except for VS) out of Brazil at duty-free in other countries:

1) Victoria's Secret.

- panties (usually V-strings or thongs), usually the 5 for $30 type deals they run.

- cremes (both the bottles and the ones that look like large toothpaste tubes) -- the Vanilla one is a classic, and the richer scented ones like Love Potion are loved by the girls.

- occasionally for girls I really like, a nice bra to match the panties.

- extra gift bags and gift paper -- if you ask nice they give you these at the counter.

- free duffel bag, usually if you buy like $120 USD they give you some free bag, which I regift to the girls.

2) Amazon sex toys.

- jeweled butt plug that costs like $7 USD: [URL]http://amzn.com/B00B2XTM1C[/URL] - so cheap and amazing. Make them wear it under the panties when they try on the panties.

- for girls I really like and who I know are nasty, NYMPH (as praises sung by Vagabundo), it costs $29 USD.

3) Memory card (SSD) for their phones -- buying micro-SSD cards for Samsung phones etc in Brazil is CRAZY expensive vs USA.

- I usually buy a nice jewelry gift box with a ribbon, and put the card in it. They think I'm going to propose, it's hilarious (I say I want to give them this because they are very special to me etc).

4) Wine.

- Most brazilian chicks love wine, even though they don't really know a damn thing about it.

- you can find some nice bottles that don't exist in Brazil -- like good California red zin, or cab, or 20 year tawny port, or 30 year sherry, and make a night of it.

- works with Liquores too (like Grand Marnier, Amarula) or even Tequila.

5) Make up -- all chicks usually have some brand of trendy makeup that costs way too much or you can't find in Brazil. Like a palette from MAC.

- I usually ask the chick if she has something she wants, then I buy it on Amazon or buy it at duty free.

6) Confirm perfumes still work -- often I take pictures of the selection at duty free and ask them what they like.

- there is some weird brazilian superstition about if you buy perfume for a girl it means your "relationship" will end. 50% bring this up and I tell them it only applies when both people are Brazilian.

Generally you can make a nice little "gift bag" putting the above items into the VS bag.

As BubbaBoy used to say, the half-life of a gift is about 24-36 hours -- they'll thank you "extra" for about that long, and then it's forgotten. So I tend to give stuff that I like (see butt plug and panties) and that helps me (see wine).

I've bought more expensive stuff in the past and it's a waste.

PS if you are passing through China and get get some high quality counterfit handbags, those are great too - but ask the girl what brand/type she wants first, and then you really have to know what to look for in the fake one to make sure you're not getting screwed on price or quality

Good luck to ya!

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1809330]Lets say 10 years ago, before Brazil became expensive and the forum turned into take-without-sharing forum with just sex-stories about mongers who smokes d*pe, get their ass licked and gave multiple orgasms to GPs. Before that the forum used to be really good.
[/QUOTE]Ouch! I got my ass licked for the first time ever and I share this with the community and I am crucified for writing about it on the forum? I fucked myself silly before returning to my own personal hell in suburbia! A hell I created for myself prior to my knowledge of Brasil, Montreal, FKK Land, etc. Etc. And the joy money can buy outside the USA. But I digress.

To expand this to more than just the GDPs I would say the following: I bring over electronics. Inexpensive tablets and cameras I have given away 4 years ago are in constant use and treasured here. I brought over head lamps for my friends last visit. The lights were inexpensive but really good quality products that I discovered. I bought them on Amazon prime for a deeply discounted price and they were very popular (my friends are sportsmen). I also brought DVDs of country and rock music. I also sent the girls inexpensive charm braclets that were quite popular the past few years in the USA. Are you familiar with the bracelts and lockets that look like they have a watch crystal? They call them Oragami Owls. [URL]https://www.origamiowl.com/.[/URL] They are really not that expensive and it has been a craze here. I put some sets together for some of the non-GDP woman I know and they really seemed to love them and now I can send them a charm or two. I tried movies and that was not a very big hit. Even though my friend Gus speak English very well he had a vary hard time following the movies. Gus went out and rented some of the DVDs that were translated in Porto and like the movies. I also always bring team gear from my favorite MLB and NFL NCAA teams. They always want to give me shirts from their favorite Futebol time or escola de samba so I will give back in return hats and T-shirts and game Jerseys.

Another thing about Brasil. And something that I like. Is that cleanliness and fragrance are very important. The freshness and hygiene of the Brasileiras GDPs I have met here is above reproach. They value perfume. I've bought some purfumes in duty free that I saw some trendy girls from France buying. This was a hit.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1809330]Lets say 10 years ago, before Brazil became expensive and the forum turned into take-without-sharing forum with just sex-stories about mongers who smokes d*pe, get their ass licked and gave multiple orgasms to GPs. Before that the forum used to be really good.
.[/QUOTE]Lighten up. The forum is still a good source of info.

As for gifts you are correct. Chocolate and perfumes always hit the spot, so to speak.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman;1809358]Sperto, I still always pick up the following when I am in the USA and (except for VS) out of Brazil at duty-free in other countries:.... [/QUOTE]Thanks, Eric. Many good suggestions for gifts. Great!

Chocolates, perfumes, lotions, make-up, underwear are all excellent and takes up little space in the bags.
Micro-SSD cards is a very good idea! Thanks.

I had dozens of mini-skirts for the beach that were very popular in Europe in the late nineties. They cost me about USD1 each. The Brazilian girls loved them.

I skip sex-toys and buttplugs. I rather see the girls playing with my dick than stuffing up plastic toys in their holes.

Yes, wines are excellent. It's very true that they like wine even though they have zero knowledge about wines. Even the toughest favelada from Jacarezinho feels sophisticated when she drink wine and eat some blue cheese. As I can bring 2x32 kg when going to Brazil I usually fill up the bags with wine bottles.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1809330]Lets say 10 years ago, before Brazil became expensive and the forum turned into take-without-sharing forum with just sex-stories about mongers who smokes d*pe, get their ass licked and gave multiple orgasms to GPs. Before that the forum used to be really good.
One good discussion was what to give as gifts to the girls. Not just gifts to be kind, but also gifts for exchange for sex.

Chocolate still works. No Brazilian girl can resist some good European chocolate.
Perfumes, yes. At least in Europe they could be bought for much less than in Brazil.
Silver piercings used to be equal to a f*ck, but that's history.
Cellular phones, no. They want the latest models which are expensive.
Victoria Secrets underwear. Maybe.
Victoria Secrets lotions. Yes.
Digital cameras, a bit too expensive.

I usually bring chocolates. Sometimes they finish earlier than planned, after a wet night out partying. Then it's good to have a reserve, a bunch of small gifts that takes up no space, like necklaces with hearts made of cristals (can be bought for 50 centavos in Brazil).

Somebody else happy to sharing gifts ideas? Christmas is close.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with your first paragraph.

[URL]https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avanafil[/URL]

Anyone use this, or have luck finding it for sale in Brazil?

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1810559][URL]https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avanafil[/URL]

Anyone use this, or have luck finding it for sale in Brazil?[/QUOTE]The Brazilian women I hang with would kick me to the curb if they even suspected I was using Erectile Dysfunction (ED) drugs.

They think if they can't get you and keep you hard, you need to be with someone who can.

When Bob Dole was hawking Viagra all that came to mind was Elizabeth gave a lousy blowjob.

This site might be more helpful for the Portuguese impaired.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avanafil[/URL]

The big advantage of Avanafil over other ED drugs seems to be the 15 minutes it takes to produce results.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1810564]
This site might be more helpful for the Portuguese impaired.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avanafil[/URL]

The big advantage of Avanafil over other ED drugs seems to be the 15 minutes it takes to produce results.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I cited to Portuguese site in case people had seen it in Brazil. But the English entry has more info. Besides acting faster, it is reported to have fewer side effects like headaches and redness of face.

If anyone has used it -- or even better, found it in Brazil -- I'd appreciate a heads up.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1810564]The Brazilian women I hang with would kick me to the curb if they even suspected I was using Erectile Dysfunction (ED) drugs.

They think if they can't get you and keep you hard, you need to be with someone who can.


The big advantage of Avanafil over other ED drugs seems to be the 15 minutes it takes to produce results.[/QUOTE]You know I had a 3 sum with two young girls Corumba and they suspected me of "juicing. " They told my friend this like this was a bad thing. They really acted strange. I didn't care that one had fake tits. I don't get it?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1810564]The Brazilian women I hang with would kick me to the curb if they even suspected I was using Erectile Dysfunction (ED) drugs.

They think if they can't get you and keep you hard, you need to be with someone who can...[/QUOTE]That's funny, my Brasileira girlfriend and I are very active, and she even offers to supply me if needed.

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[QUOTE=Ricker;1811207]That's funny, my Brasileira girlfriend and I are very active, and she even offers to supply me if needed.[/QUOTE]The Brazilians have a term for those kinds of relationships. Banca.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1811375]The Brazilians have a term for those kinds of relationships. Banca.[/QUOTE]They also have another term for the relationship. Maravilhosa. 😄

Exercise is the best remedy, especially swimming. Finding a decent swimming pool in Rio can be hard. I have one in my apartment complex, but it is small. 30 minutes is about 400 laps. Clube de Botafogo has a nice pool, but requires some kind of doctor's note. Clube de Flamengo has a nice one in Leblon. It's about 150 r a month for a socio membership.

The Nymph vibe is a great toy, not a replacement for dick so much as a replacement for my tongue when she is giving me head. The girls love that thing. The nymph is a great call by master Jedi monger Cartman. The key is that it's so cheap (29 dollars on amazon), that it's pretty much disposable, yet much more durable than the Brazilian sex toys which break quickly with any kind of use.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1811046]Thanks. I cited to Portuguese site in case people had seen it in Brazil. But the English entry has more info. Besides acting faster, it is reported to have fewer side effects like headaches and redness of face.

If anyone has used it -- or even better, found it in Brazil -- I'd appreciate a heads up.[/QUOTE]

I just cleaned out my inbox.
Shockingly, 20% of the PMs from members who post regularly on the forum and the rest from members who never contributed anything on the Brazil forum, asking for privê-lists.
I learnt my lesson, sharing addresses openly in the forum is bad idea. Giving out addresses by PMs is also a bad ideia as only 10% gives something back.
Lurkers!

Thanks god, in 48 hours I'll be back in Rio and will be able to study the current privê-scene. Reading through all the posts with misinformation, it's difficult to pick up new info.
Feliz Natal!

[QUOTE=Sperto;1813194]I just cleaned out my inbox.
Chockingly, 20% of the PMs from members who post regulary on the forum and the rest from members who never contributed anything on the Brazil forum, asking for priv-lists.
I learnt my lesson, sharing addresses openly in the forum is bad ideia. Giving out addresses by PMs is also a bad ideia as only 10% gives something back.
Lurkers!

Thanks god, in 48 hours I'll be back in Rio and will be able to study the current priv-scene. Reading through all the posts with misinformation, it's difficult to pick up new info.
Feliz Natal![/QUOTE]Hi Sperto,

I think you are one of the best in the Rio scene. As you said there are about 5 people that really put up good info.

When I lived in Botafogo for about 4 months there were little one and two girl prives there, as well as in Gloria, etc. It seems like these little shops are almost never mentioned, but I do think they are there. The info usually came from [URL]GPguia.net[/URL] (which appears to be working again from the US). I know you are excellent at finding these great little casas. They are difficult to find and often require a lot of hit and miss. I am guessing there are even a few in Copa that this board does not know about.

As much as we gringos think we know Rio, the Cariocas that live there know 5 times more.

Q: What happened to the beach kiosk scene? In front of the old ho beach was the little kiosk where you could either sit and wait to be propositioned or walk by and see who was there waiting to proposition you. With the new kiosks did that game go away? Not that the quality was great but it was a fun part of the game.

It also seems like there are tons more Copa independents on [URL]hotside.com.br[/URL] than ever before. Many ads are promoting privates in Copa, and that was not always the case before. Some look quite nice.

Have fun exploring.

I look forward to hearing what you are are up to and how your adventures go.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1813528]As much as we gringos think we know Rio, the Cariocas that live there know 5 times more.[/QUOTE]Those of us who live among Brazilians know which girls in the neighborhoods are GDPs. Very few people, however, are going to get that information (or be told how we got it in the first place) and it is not something conveyed publicly. WhatsApp has taken Brazil by storm. Reminds me of the Orkut days. For many non-pros and definitely these closet GDPs, it is their primary means of communication. Be sure to install and test the app before you get to Brazil.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1813558]WhatsApp has taken Brazil by storm. Reminds me of the Orkut days. For many non-pros and definitely these closet GDPs, it is their primary means of communication. Be sure to install and test the app before you get to Brazil.[/QUOTE]It is my primary means of communication too. My mom and dad even know that is the best way to contact me and send me a whatsapp instead of calling leaving voice messages - although you can voice message on whatsapp too.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1813558]Those of us who live among Brazilians know which girls in the neighborhoods are GDPs. Very few people, however, are going to get that information (or be told how we got it in the first place) and it is not something conveyed publicly. WhatsApp has taken Brazil by storm. Reminds me of the Orkut days. For many non-pros and definitely these closet GDPs, it is their primary means of communication. Be sure to install and test the app before you get to Brazil.[/QUOTE]You are so right. People living there know so much and they do not need to share with the world. My good friend is a Carioca and he never ventured much into the hobby until about 10 years ago. He lives in Tijuca and works for the government. He now knows places that he learned from his friends and work associates. There are a few that I have never seen listed anywhere, and I promised not to share them.

The point is, local guys (Cariocas and long term ex-pats) have info they just do not need to share. But, the good news is there are plenty of known places and many more to be explored. The info changes often, as Copa had many tiny Casas, as well as even in Leme, and now it seems only a few places in Copa get mentioned. Times change.

When I lived with him in Tijuca there were some small dives right near his house, near the shopping center Tijuca, that were way off the radar. Mostly 2 girl shops. I guess the point is, just keep asking and hunting for the ones of the grid.

Feliz Natal.

I did provide Francis7854 with some information via PM.

Members do need to be aware that leading up to the Olympics there will probably be some journalists showing up here looking for information. It has happened before, will happen again and maybe already has. Journalists are not too bright, unethical and notoriously lazy. They chose journalism as a major because they erroneously thought it would help them score girls, not because it ever would lead to meaningful employment or they knew how to research and write.

Keep this in mind in case you are not inclined to have your information show up (without your permission) on the internet.

The economy sucks, crime is getting worse, the real sucks (great for foreign investors), interest rates are going through the roof. What is holding property values up? Foreign buyers and the Olympics? Oil $33. Commodities stink, no exports hardly. Offshore rigs are cancelled for lack of money. 10 billion for the Olympics. The list goes on.

50 million Brasilians have been lifted out of poverty, yep, they now make over $R760 reals per month so they are no longer poor, ye haww. Try feeding a family of four on that.

I want to buy some land but I will wait for the 50% correction to come.

Any thoughts. Post Olympics?

Real inflation is over 10%. Not Govt inflation numbers.

What is holding the values up?

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1823247]The economy sucks, crime is getting worse, the real sucks (great for foreign investors), interest rates are going through the roof. What is holding property values up? Foreign buyers and the Olympics? Oil $33. Commodities stink, no exports hardly. Offshore rigs are cancelled for lack of money. 10 billion for the Olympics. The list goes on.

50 million Brasilians have been lifted out of poverty, yep, they now make over $R760 reals per month so they are no longer poor, ye haww. Try feeding a family of four on that.

I want to buy some land but I will wait for the 50% correction to come.

Any thoughts. Post Olympics?

Real inflation is over 10%. Not Govt inflation numbers.

What is holding the values up?[/QUOTE]If your going to buy land wait until after the Olympics. The Real will be 6 to 1 maybe even 7 to 1. Brazil is in huge massive debt, and they don't produce nothing. All they had was oil which is pennies now with the slowdown on chinca.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1823257]If your going to buy land wait until after the Olympics. The Real will be 6 to 1 maybe even 7 to 1. Brazil is in huge massive debt, and they don't produce nothing. All they had was oil which is pennies now with the slowdown on chinca.[/QUOTE]Correct! Whats holding prices up is fake hype-the property prices were inflated by 130-150% in Rio that even a drop would still keep prices way inflated.

Once olympics have passed and the population once again are paying the bill and with the world fear of investing in Brazil and China's problems-Brazil could return to the dark ages economically.

Great for me! As all the ex-pats are heading back to Europe, Ill be there buying my apartment by the beach in Rio.

A duplex penthouse with 2 bedrooms I saw at 600.000 euros in 2014 is now 375.000 euros and falling- One block from Copa.

[QUOTE=ForceSteeler;1823257]If your going to buy land wait until after the Olympics. The Real will be 6 to 1 maybe even 7 to 1. Brazil is in huge massive debt, and they don't produce nothing. All they had was oil which is pennies now with the slowdown on chinca.[/QUOTE]Yes! Also The Saudis are happy to sell cheap oil so that undercuts everyone else and now that US is more self-sufficient, Brazil is taking the hit and with China not buying Brazilian now. Its going downhill fast.

With Rousseff stubbornly clinging on furthering the worlwide scepticism abut investing in a politically unstable, corrupt place!

Some of the massage places offer "body to body" massages. Anyone have experience with these that can relate exactly what is on offer?

Any websites where you can arrange to have girls visit your apartment? Is this advisable given security in the city?

It is much harder to find a strictly therapeutic massage in Rio than it is to find one which includes full service.

The basic service includes a HJ. If there is another price level then you can assume that more is available.

If you are staying in a hotel, have reception take the ID of your guests and return to her when they have confirmed with you that everything is OK. This deters any security issues.

If you are staying in an apartment, and I cannot emphasize this too much, bring some things for your doorman. Buy him a coffee, ACAI, sandwich, etc. Let him know when you will have guests.

The only issues I have ever had with girls in my hotel or apartment is them thinking they were my girlfriend and not wanting to leave. Be cautious, but don't be paranoid.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1823366]Correct! Whats holding prices up is fake hype-the property prices were inflated by 130-150% in Rio that even a drop would still keep prices way inflated.

Once olympics have passed and the population once again are paying the bill and with the world fear of investing in Brazil and China's problems-Brazil could return to the dark ages economically.

Great for me! As all the ex-pats are heading back to Europe, Ill be there buying my apartment by the beach in Rio.

A duplex penthouse with 2 bedrooms I saw at 600.000 euros in 2014 is now 375.000 euros and falling- One block from Copa.[/QUOTE]There's a podcast I have faithfully listen too for four-five years.

The host has been speaking about the Latin American property bubble and suggest renting until the bottom falls out.

[URL]http://ourfiniteworld.com/2016/01/19/why-oil-under-30-per-barrel-is-a-major-problem/[/URL]#more-40536.

I believe I will be in a position to take advantage of the property bubble in LA when it burst.

Let's just hope hedge funds don't jack the prices back up with piles of cash in reserve.

So can anyone see a difference on the ground in the declared effort to eradicate Zika? Would tourists notice? Are hotels doing anything? Or is all happening in the poorer areas?

[URL]http://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2016/01/24/Zika-has-been-around-for-years/stories/201601240108[/URL]

Just don't get pregnant.

[QUOTE=Troyster;1835139]So can anyone see a difference on the ground in the declared effort to eradicate Zika? Would tourists notice? Are hotels doing anything? Or is all happening in the poorer areas?[/QUOTE]

There used to be a member here who loved Carnaval. We finally chose to agree to disagree.

Other than the costumes and floats in the Sambadrome, which are awesome, I found the music repetitive and poorly played, and Carnaval just an excuse for people to get drunk, more than usual and wet the streets, more than usual.

My advice to anyone who wants to see the costumes and floats is to arrive on Friday after Carnaval and go to the Champion Parade in the Sambadrome on Saturday.

As for the girls, I prefer mine sober. Have not found the sober ones any more or less willing during Carnaval times. Brazilians are pretty much horny all the time.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1836719].....
Brazilians are pretty much horny all the time.[/QUOTE]I agree 101%.

I had two friends who just returned on Monday from Brazil, they were questioned extensively by immigration because they had spent two weeks in Rio. While they were in Rio they saw on the news that Government Officials were recommending that any man who visits Brazil, should wear a condom for 6 months after he goes back to his country. So I guess all you married men men better stay away from Brazil until the Zeka virus is eradicated. LOL! They also said that women who visited Brazil should not get pregnant for a 2 year period after they return in order to make sure they don't have a baby with issues.

I'll be in Brazil for two week, with the Easter days in the middle. I guess this is a family thing, everything closed and all the GDPs back home. Might get a bit boring, what do you guys think?

I will be in Rio this Wednesday February 24 for 6 months.

I am a gringo I speak Portuguese fluently I know the Brazilian culture and mentality.

So if someone is interested in finding some GPS and being with other people, just send me a PM.

Rose, the ex manager of Sensacao is now in charge of Tangará. We all wish her a warm welcome!

Hello,

Been reading through the Rio reports a lot there but not clear on a couple of things. I know of balcony bar and that that has closed, I would like to know what the similar alternatives are and where the girls that used to hang out there will have gone?

I noticed that people in the forum tend to speak of Mab's and not in such a positive light. What are the best bars where you can chill out talk with girls and decide if you want to do something?

Have been reading the forum and hearing of termas (spas) these not really what I am looking for I don't think because would rather meet girls and decide if I want to do something with them then, never been to a brothel.

Can you guys assist and suggest the best course of action.

Also are these girls in places like Mab's and Barbarellas (what is that place a strip club or casual bar?) overcharging generally although that can always be negotiated.

Any help is welcomed.

No help for a novice guys? Just joined the forum and would appreciate some guidance on the post.

[QUOTE=SergioA;1842710]I know of balcony bar and that that has closed, I would like to know what the similar alternatives are and where the girls that used to hang out there will have gone?[/QUOTE]If you have been reading the Rio reports then you would know that just a couple of days ago Sperto posted a couple of alternatives to Mabs that are located in Ipanema. Where did the girls from before go? Probably back to the favela where they came from.

[QUOTE=SergioA;1842710]What are the best bars where you can chill out talk with girls and decide if you want to do something?[/QUOTE]What are you trying to decide? People go to Rio because the girls in those venues are available for fucking. It's not like you are going to marry them; although some guys have gone and done just that.

[QUOTE=SergioA;1842710]Can you guys assist and suggest the best course of action.

Also are these girls in places like Mab's and Barbarellas (what is that place a strip club or casual bar?) overcharging generally although that can always be negotiated.[/QUOTE]The best and cheapest course of action would be the privees. But you do not go there to sit down with girls and make decisions. They show you the girls and you choose one. Mabs is a cafe / restaurant. Barbarella's is a strip club. Overcharging is in the eye of the wallet holder. Fair exchange is no robbery. Would I pay 500 reais for a piece of pussy in Brazil? No fucking way.

Have read through the reports but missed the one where he mentioned alternative's to Mab's, its a restaurant but from reviews of the place sounds like a bar, as for the question regarding where they wen't was asking about venues.

Not looking for marriage, don't like brothels because have to like a girl to go with her, not into picking them out in that fashion.

Trying to decide if I am attracted enough to the girl and negotiate etc what do you think I am trying to decide, everyone has their preference.

Had hook ups there with no money exchanged so those places can be good options.

Strip clubs don't appeal overcharging for drinks to look not ideal.

Negotiation is of course where the figures are decided. As for 500 that is crazy no chance, nunca pay that.

Thanks for the info.

I'm planning to visit Brazil for the first time for a few days, then head to Buenos Aires. I'm trying to decide on Rio or Sao Paulo. I've read about termas and prives on another site but am confused about the difference. I'm really just looking for something like the FKK's in Germany where you go to a brothel with lots of young hot skinny girls, pick one, then fuck them. This was different from a club as you don't have to buy girls drinks and the girls are there specifically for one reason. Now in the FKK, I'd have to pay an entrance fee, then a set rate for specific services. From reading about termas and prives, this sounds like what I'm looking for, but it is hard to tell if this information is old. I like to do this earlier in the day (afternoon) and not at night so I wouldn't be interested in overnights either. I just want to go there, fuck a girl or two, then leave. I don't want to bring her back to my hotel or have to buy a hotel room. Also, I can only understand english, I hope this won't be an issue. I'd appreciate any recommendations with which city to pick.

A privee is pretty much an office that has rooms where you can fuck chicks. You go in and they show you the girls and you pick one. You go to the back and shower and then fuck the girl and then shower again and pay the receptionist on your way out.

A termas you go in and there is an entrance fee (payable at the end in your total bill.) In some you go to a locker room and take your clothes off and put on a robe and flip flops. You go to a bar area and can drink and order food. All the girls are there in bikinis socializing and some may be on stage dancing. You can pick one and go to the rooms they have there. In some termas you can get a haircut or massage. When you are ready to leave you go back to the locker and put back on your clothes and pay your total bill at the cashier before exiting.

Privees cost way less than termas. The entrance fee to a termas could be over 50 reais where you can get full service at a privee for only 80 reais.

Thanks! I assume at a terma, in addition to the $50 entrance fee, you have to pay some amount for the girl too. Is that usually the same price for any girl or do you have to negotiate. Terma sounds most like a german FKK. Although a privee sounds fine to me. Are the prices there usually fixed?

Will I be able to get by ok with only english at either of these places? Thats why I ask how much I have to negotiate. For example, asking if BBBJ or CIM is extra.

Would you recommend Rio or Sao Paulo? When I read the Rio wikisex page, it seems to only mention termas. On the SP page, it mentions privees. Are there no termas in SP and no Privees in Rio?

Interesting documentary. Darlene looks like she's in a bad way now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkURgKEgxM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Torgoch;1848396]Interesting documentary. Darlene looks like she's in a bad way now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkURgKEgxM[/URL][/QUOTE]Would have never known about it had you not posted.

Thanks for bringing it to our attention. It is interesting how porn and prostitution is reported on in the mainstream media.

[QUOTE=Torgoch;1848396]Interesting documentary. Darlene looks like she's in a bad way now.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBkURgKEgxM[/URL][/QUOTE]I've known Marcia "Darlene" for a number of years and she has to be one of the absolute sweetest person you could ever meet. Just a super nice person, I can't say enough good things about her. She got started in the life kinda late, not until her 30's and the started doing pornos in her late 30's, so she isn't a spring chicken. She has really gone thru hell after making her movies because she has two children. She told me how the teenage boys in her neighborhood would walk back and forth in front of her house calling out her name and saying they want their dick sucked and other shit like that. Her teenage daughter was ridiculed because of what he mom did and he son caught hell too. She has tried to leave the business a few times, but at her age, what else is she going to do that will allow her to make enough money to take care of her kids? Its not like she makes a lot of money shooting pornos. I think the girls only get like 5-600 bucks for the orgy scenes and 3-400 for one on one scenes.

She is definitely one of those women that if you could save some one, she would be the person that I would save and help start a new life.

When Brazil entered in crisis my hope was that the crisis would lead to more women wanting to sell their bundas and that would lead to a upturn in the privê-situation. Actually it's the opposite. The crisis results in a decline in the privê-situation.

Many brazilians can no longer afford to spend money on GPs. I've spoken to many of the bosses at the privées in Centro and Tijuca. They all said they only have about 40% of the customers they had one year ago. Not only the small privées suffers but also the large ones like Dudas, Belprazer, Emporio do Banho and Massagem Tijuca. The girls get less customers, earn less, less girls seek work at privées and many GPs choose other work. I also noted that many privées in Centro have closed.

More gringo mongers heading to Rio will not help the situation. Outside of Copacabanas gringotraps the gringomongers only represent a tiny fraction of the customers in the Centro privées.

Conclusion: It's very enjoyable that the real is cheap right now, but the playground is definitely smaller than it used to be.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1849554]When Brazil entered in crisis my hope was that the crisis would lead to more women wanting to sell their bundas and that would lead to a upturn in the priv-situation. Actually it's the opposite. The crisis results in a decline in the priv-situation.

Many brazilians can no longer afford to spend money on GPs. I've spoken to many of the bosses at the prives in Centro and Tijuca. They all said they only have about 40% of the customers they had one year ago. Not only the small prives suffers but also the large ones like Dudas, Belprazer, Emporio do Banho and Massagem Tijuca. The girls get less customers, earn less, less girls seek work at prives and many GPs choose other work. I also noted that many prives in Centro have closed.

More gringo mongers heading to Rio will not help the situation. Outside of Copacabanas gringotraps the gringomongers only represent a tiny fraction of the customers in the Centro prives.

Conclusion: It's very enjoyable that the real is cheap right now, but the playground is definitely smaller than it used to be.[/QUOTE]Word from my friend who works in a Centro privee supports your statements. Big fall-off reported in Brazilian customers. Big uptick in Gringo customers.

She said 5 people from "LOS Angeles" visited her privee in the last few days. The BRL has been strengthening -- from 4. 01 to 3. 68 in like 10 days -- so something is going on, besides the market thinking impeachment is more likely.

However the economy is definitely in the worst recession for 20+ years, from what I can tell.

Could someone tell me where this mountain top is located? I pulled these pics from the internet but they didn't mention where you could go to see this incredible view.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1850050]Could someone tell me where this mountain top is located? I pulled these pics from the internet but they didn't mention where you could go to see this incredible view.[/QUOTE]Take a look at the second picture. That is the Jockey Club in Gávea on the left with Lagoa Rodrigo de Freitas next to it.

Now go to Google Earth -- where would you have that view?

Free lap dance at LE Boy to the first guy who gets it right.

[QUOTE=Bravo;1850050]Could someone tell me where this mountain top is located? I pulled these pics from the internet but they didn't mention where you could go to see this incredible view.[/QUOTE]
The first picture I can for sure tell it's taken from Pedra da Gávea as I've taken a picture just like that one. I highly recommend this trekking. It only have one tricky part, the carrasqueira.
The second picture is from Morro Dois Irmãos. Some caution if you do this trekking. There can be some bandits from both Vidigal and Rocinha on the trail.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1850131]The first picture I can for sure tell it's taken from Pedra da Gvea as I've taken a picture just like that one. I highly recommend this trekking. It only have one tricky part, the carrasqueira.
The second picture is from Morro Dois Irmos. Some caution if you do this trekking. There can be some bandits from both Vidigal and Rocinha on the trail.[/QUOTE]Bandits on the trail? Well, looks like I won't be going up there! LOL.

I would like to work out most mornings when I am in Copa.

I have been looking at BodyTech webiste on and. S Copa 801. From what I can work
out from there site they do not do daily rates or 1/2 monthy which I need.

[URL]http://www.bodytech.com.br/PlanosProgramas[/URL]

Can anyone recommend any gyms in this area that can offer a pay as you walk
in deal?

Thanks.

Koolkid,

Bare bones gym Golds Rio on Nossa Señora. Really basic if your looking short term but has enough, and can do weekly for about 75 Reals. Hope that helps.

Thats pefect and just what I wanted. Thanks for your info. KK.

[QUOTE=BjjDom;1854653]Koolkid,

Bare bones gym Golds Rio on Nossa Seora. Really basic if your looking short term but has enough, and can do weekly for about 75 Reals. Hope that helps.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1854539]I have been looking at BodyTech webiste on and. S Copa 801. From what I can work
out from there site they do not do daily rates or 1/2 monthy which I need.[/QUOTE]
Bodytech used to have daily rates, 10 years ago, R$40.
Just about every second block in Copacabana has a gym. Another option would be to use the outside mini-gyms along the orla. They are good for some basic exercises.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1854917]Bodytech used to have daily rates, 10 years ago, R$40.
Just about every second block in Copacabana has a gym. Another option would be to use the outside mini-gyms along the orla. They are good for some basic exercises.[/QUOTE]Weekly at Formula is like 139. I got a monthly one which was 200 I believe. Body Tech is 430 for a month.

Brazil, just like Argentina had 1991-2001, a overvalued currency; it can bring growth since it brings stability; importing high-tech becomes 50% discount, which stimulates growth.

Argentinas convertibility fell when exports and the constant expectation of a fall of the system had led to a yearly higher and hinger capital flight.

When the Peso fell, from 1:1 to 1:4, the Argentines with wealth, came back and bought, what they sold a few years ago for 3 times more.

This has repeated itself since BNP / capita growth stagnated permanently in the 1960th. In various forms of currency manipulation.

Brazil exports are not high-tech and are sensible to fall of demand of raw material or products with low added value.

Like China and Russia.

[URL]http://www.global-rates.com/interest-rates/central-banks/central-banks.aspx[/URL]

With 14% interest rate and 10% inflation; Brazil have had it's period of growth, by a certain system.

Now the country has to become cheap again, to attract FDI, tourism, mongering, create work by a desperation about, long-term 50%.

The problem is to find a strategy for this change, the risk of hyperinflation is very high, but a change is a must.

Foreign debt is also a catch 22. It's very high, so a depreciation (devaluation) will of 50% will double it. Brazil is stuck.

IMF programs can buy Brazil time; but the country needs a new strategy.

Letting the interest rate down from 14% to 5% in combination with IMF program. That would be an organized retreat.

Remember Argentinas default 2002!

1998 Argentia was called "Economic Tiger", before a first crisis came, sweeping down the currencies of Russia and hitting the South East Asian "Economic Tigers".

Brazil have build strong institutions, but that doesn't mean constant high growth. Crisis and for us mongers a healthy 50% discount and 200% supply of Hotties, like Help, but 5 one's in every metropol or million city; that is good news for us.

Just like Argentina had to swallow it's pride and restart, Brazil are getting closer and closer to that inevitable depreciation.

I had not read anything, just drew my own conclusions, but other members, visiting or living partly or permanently in Brazil, have seen this process started. The over-rated REAL down to "normal", is still requerir the Central Bank told hold a 14% rate, even so, inflation is 10%.

[QUOTE=Ibiza007;1823247]The economy sucks, crime is getting worse, the real sucks (great for foreign investors), interest rates are going through the roof. What is holding property values up? Foreign buyers and the Olympics? Oil $33. Commodities stink, no exports hardly. Offshore rigs are cancelled for lack of money. 10 billion for the Olympics. The list goes on.

50 million Brasilians have been lifted out of poverty, yep, they now make over $R760 reals per month so they are no longer poor, ye haww. Try feeding a family of four on that.

I want to buy some land but I will wait for the 50% correction to come.

Any thoughts. Post Olympics?

Real inflation is over 10%. Not Govt inflation numbers.

What is holding the values up?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bravo;1848769]I've known Marcia "Darlene" for a number of years and she has to be one of the absolute sweetest person you could ever meet. Just a super nice person, I can't say enough good things about her. She got started in the life kinda late, not until her 30's and the started doing pornos in her late 30's, so she isn't a spring chicken. She has really gone thru hell after making her movies because she has two children. She told me how the teenage boys in her neighborhood would walk back and forth in front of her house calling out her name and saying they want their dick sucked and other shit like that. Her teenage daughter was ridiculed because of what he mom did and he son caught hell too. She has tried to leave the business a few times, but at her age, what else is she going to do that will allow her to make enough money to take care of her kids? Its not like she makes a lot of money shooting pornos. I think the girls only get like 5-600 bucks for the orgy scenes and 3-400 for one on one scenes.

She is definitely one of those women that if you could save some one, she would be the person that I would save and help start a new life.[/QUOTE]Marcia must move to another barrio, or to another city. Brazil is 40% of both area and population of South America, and then we have Portugal.

MILF might don't pay much, but she is still in good shape, look at Lisa Ann, she has been on-off as a MILF for +15 years, and with some botox etc. She can manage. Why not move to another city, hang on to an European or US man.

Radical situations requerir radical action, I have done it myself several times and life returns. First comes the euphoria of leaving the stigma, then hard time getting to know the new place and new friends, then a normal life is back again. Adopting to new situations are on of humans best skills. Look at the Eskimos at North Pole, -50 C, only eating fat and meat. Their fellow humans in the deepest parts of Amazonaz live in +50 C, and life of honey, fruits. It's a 100 C difference, and a 100% difference type of calories they eat. Still they have survived for 10.000 years!

Help Marcia mentally; she is depressed and it can kind of freeze your mind, create apathy, that hardly let go. I've been there. Benzo helped me that time. I got new job at new places and people liked me a lot! It was kind of a revolution! I remeber World Cup 2010; I had such an anxiety I could not enjoy it at all. 2012 at the Euro Cup, just 2 years later, my income had rosen by 75%, I enjoyed relaxing with some new friends and the Euro Cup as the marker of overall mental feeling.

When I was at my lowest, I formed an alliance with a girl from Colombia, we helped each other. Today, not has much has changed on the outside; but on the inside Marcia can get get life back! But she needs help! I would also marry her, or help her out, but I need to focus on my own economical balance. It's going straight back to Medellin-compability aiming at living there every second month, possible due to my work scheme, but I have also started to look at north Eastern Brazil; according to Ricker, who have seen it all, says those girls are the sweetest in the world.

Maybe, just maybe she can be my teacher in Brazil-Portuguese! Brazil REAL fall means that 40% of the continent opens up. If Maduro's regime falls, the sister country of Colombia also becomes available.

Marcia is a woman that love sex! If she let's go of the excuses and say it openly; she attract porno-producers around the globe! We have examples of where former female pornstars right after their careers have got new ones. The crying-story does not work anymore!

Change of identity or openly be a role-model for girls that want to do porn but don't dear, she can be a good agent, scout.

Marcia's first move, change her mind, endorfine comes. Hard work-outs looking even hotter, focusing on her ass, give her the self-confidence, to take action to move, which seems to be a must.

Roman-Catholic countries have their typical double double moral. Hookering a little, going to hookers, "everybody does it", as long as you don't mention it. Therefore porn give such stigma. That double moral is what keep many alive, those Extra Reis.

Help her do someting! Moving or saving for moving ASAP is a must!

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1823366]Correct! Whats holding prices up is fake hype-the property prices were inflated by 130-150% in Rio that even a drop would still keep prices way inflated.

Once olympics have passed and the population once again are paying the bill and with the world fear of investing in Brazil and China's problems-Brazil could return to the dark ages economically.

Great for me! As all the ex-pats are heading back to Europe, Ill be there buying my apartment by the beach in Rio.

A duplex penthouse with 2 bedrooms I saw at 600.000 euros in 2014 is now 375.000 euros and falling- One block from Copa.[/QUOTE]We are in Euros here, having fallen 37% even before the Olympics.

I don't by, I rent. It would be in Fortazela, Natal, Joao Pessoa, or one of many "undiscovered cities with wtie beaches along the coast from.

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During many years I've been thinking about buying a terreno/land in Brazil. I've friends who bought land in Brazil in the early nineties. If they would sell the land today the profit would be extremely good. Some other friends bought apartments in Rio, around 2004. The prices now are many times more what they have paid.

Even in the favela in Rio, where I stay, the prices have multiplicated the last years. Recently there have been lots of shoot-outs so the prices are going down, but the prices are still absurd.

If you want to buy land in Brazil, let say beachfront in a postcard like setting, there are still a lot of possibilities. You just have to find these places before they get discovered, get tourism, get asphalted roads and high prices.

The only thing that make me not buying land/apartment in Brazil is because I travel a lot. I can't stand staying in one place.

Some of my friends who bought apartments and coberturas when the prices where low about 10 years ago have let their places out to be rented. It used to be good business in the Help-era. Now the money from the renting business is very low.

If I would by land it would be interesting to buy land in a small city along the coast, a place not considered touristy now, or buying an apartment in Rio. I wouldn't buy an apartment in Rio with the intention of renting it out when I'm not in Rio, I couldn't stand the thought of some fat ******** f*cking a crackwh*re in my bed.

Buying a house in favela in Zona Sul is fine for me, but it's annoying when they have shoot-outs. There is always the risk of some bullet going the wrong way.

I probably continue to rent an apartment/house or stay in a hotel/pousada.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1862543]During many years I've been thinking about buying a terreno/land in Brazil. I've friends who bought land in Brazil in the early nineties. If they would sell the land today the profit would be extremely good. Some other friends bought apartments in Rio, around 2004. The prices now are many times more what they have paid.

Even in the favela in Rio, where I stay, the prices have multiplicated the last years. Recently there have been lots of shoot-outs so the prices are going down, but the prices are still absurd.

If you want to buy land in Brazil, let say beachfront in a postcard like setting, there are still a lot of possibilities. You just have to find these places before they get discovered, get tourism, get asphalted roads and high prices.

The only thing that make me not buying land/apartment in Brazil is because I travel a lot. I can't stand staying in one place.

Some of my friends who bought apartments and coberturas when the prices where low about 10 years ago have let their places out to be rented. It used to be good business in the Help-era. Now the money from the renting business is very low.

If I would by land it would be interesting to buy land in a small city along the coast, a place not considered touristy now, or buying an apartment in Rio. However I wouldn't buy an apartment with the intention of renting it out when I'm not in Rio, I couldn't stand the thought of some fat ******** f*cking a crackwh*re in my bed.

Buying a house in favela in Zona Sul is fine for me, but it's annoying when they have shoot-outs. There is always the risk of some bullet going the wrong way.

I probably continue to rent an apartment/house or stay in a hotel/pousada.[/QUOTE]Sperto this is a very good post-thanks.

I totally agree.

The rental market has bottomed-out in Rio for example and is not a good investment.

Would only make sense to buy for personal use so would have to be a good deal and one would have to spend sufficient time there.

Brazil has so many undiscovered areas but it has to be balanced with what to do there. Part of the excitement is also being close ot some type of action, night life etc at least for me.

Its a tricky one and yes the rental market is now very favourable.

For example in Leblon you can now rent 2 bedroom apartments for 23-2500 reais a month. Thats less than 500 £ a month-not that I want to live there but it illustrates their struggles.

I rented a coubertura in Nossa Senhora and was given it for a month but only had to pay for 2 weeks.

Crisis is real.

Hello everybody,

My first visit to Brasil is coming soon.

I will go to Sao Paulo and some days to Belo Horizonte.

How do I get cash?

Bank card or exchange Euro?

Thanks for your help.

Peek

[QUOTE=Peek001;1867566]Hello everybody,

My first visit to Brasil is coming soon.

I will go to Sao Paulo and some days to Belo Horizonte.

How do I get cash?

Bank card or exchange Euro?

Thanks for your help.

Peek[/QUOTE]I would bring some Euros as a backup. But generally you can use your ATM card at one of the various banks, though you may have to try a few to find a machine that works.

Note that most ATMs in Brazil are only open during day / business hours, and at night close because it's relatively unsafe to take out money.

Plan ahead. Do not walk around with a ton of cash. Always plan to head back to your hotel and secure it.

-Cartman.

Thanks Cartman,

Next questions.

Did anybody try a escort service to a Hotel, since I will not have too much time by myself?

Recommendations are welcome.

How are the Brazil in general?

I will meet with some coworkers, is it OK to ask them for help with woman or is that a topic to avoid?

Thanks.

Peek

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1867997]I would bring some Euros as a backup. But generally you can use your ATM card at one of the various banks, though you may have to try a few to find a machine that works.

Note that most ATMs in Brazil are only open during day / business hours, and at night close because it's relatively unsafe to take out money.

Plan ahead. Do not walk around with a ton of cash. Always plan to head back to your hotel and secure it.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Peek001;1868415]Thanks Cartman,

Next questions.

Did anybody try a escort service to a Hotel, since I will not have too much time by myself?

Recommendations are welcome.

How are the Brazil in general?

I will meet with some coworkers, is it OK to ask them for help with woman or is that a topic to avoid?

Thanks.

Peek[/QUOTE]Hmm. What about in your own country? Would you end a business meeting with people you meet for the first time; "by the way, would you help me to find some prostitutes?" I would not.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1868462]Hmm. What about in your own country? Would you end a business meeting with people you meet for the first time; "by the way, would you help me to find some prostitutes?" I would not.[/QUOTE]Right, I'm form Germany, here it depends who your talking with.

In general you find out during the conversation.

But different countries different cultures, that's why I asked.

Thanks.

In the Wall Street Journal.

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[QUOTE=Peek001;1868473]Right, I'm form Germany, here it depends who your talking with.

In general you find out during the conversation.

But different countries different cultures, that's why I asked.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And in some cultures (especially Latin American ones) you are expected to partake in fun before any business discussions. If not, you could be seen as a boring lame and then could lose out on the contract or whatever.

Does anyone have a recommendation of which visa service company to use?

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[QUOTE=Shamester;1873531]Does anyone have a recommendation of which visa service company to use?

[URL]http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/approved_visa_agencies.xml[/URL][/QUOTE][URL]https://www.itseasy.com/[/URL]

Easy online process and should you need help, excellent live support.

Highly recommended. Used for friends and family in various jurisdictions.

Quick turnaround and reasonably priced.

Gents.

Which website do you go on for independent female escorts?

Chaser.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1873531]Does anyone have a recommendation of which visa service company to use?

[URL]http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/en-us/approved_visa_agencies.xml[/URL][/QUOTE]No visa will be needed from June 1st this year until Sept 18th because of the Olympics. I am highly certain I will take advantage of this.

It might be more crowded in the RIO area and some of the popular areas. But if you stay out of Rio I don't think it will be too crowded.

I would have been to Brazil a long time ago if I didn't have to apply for a visa. Now I will show Brazil that they get more money spent in their country when they aren't so proud and dumb to have a reciprocal visa policy. If they bring in big tourist money during the Olympics, I'm sure they will start to relax their Visa policy within the next couple of years. Maybe getting rid of their puta President will help.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1875508]No visa will be needed from June 1st this year until Sept 18th because of the Olympics. I am highly certain I will take advantage of this.

I would have been to Brazil a long time ago if I didn't have to apply for a visa. [/QUOTE]The thing is that you would have come out better getting the visa and going during a different time (unless you are going specifically for the games). If you go during those dates you are going to pay overinflated prices for everything anyway which are going to total more than you would have spent for the $140 visa.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1875556]The thing is that you would have come out better getting the visa and going during a different time (unless you are going specifically for the games). If you go during those dates you are going to pay overinflated prices for everything anyway which are going to total more than you would have spent for the $140 visa.[/QUOTE]A buddy I once worked with from Brazil told me the same thing. I also spoke with people that went down to Brazil for the World Cup and were amazed how overpriced everything was. Down time is the time to go.

I'm pretty sure I've seen mention of people taking girls on "side vacations" before on the Rio forum, but doing a search couldn't dig them up.

Anyone have tips on inviting a girl to go on a side trip? Mostly on agreeing on a rate I guess.

There's a girl in SP I've seen for overnights on a bunch of occasions since October. A couple of the last dates were probably 15-16 hours where we'd go to a museum or art exhibition, dinner, then motel. She didn't ask for more than her standard overnight rate of are $800.

Was chatting on WhatsApp since I expect to be back in a few weeks. It being "cold" now in SP came up so I jokingly asked if she wanted to go to the Northeast with me, not expecting her to say yes, since she has a civilian job and is studying. But it's semester break and she is actually willing to take off from her job to go with me.

Not sure how to approach the price issue. Anyone have experience and a tip on that? Paid vacation is obviously a pretty good deal for any GP and I'd be providing a flight. Should I make an offer and hope to not offend her? Solicit a rate from her?

[QUOTE=Munamies;1876627] Solicit a rate from her?[/QUOTE]Asking her is setting yourself up to pay too much. If for five days she'll likely want R800 x 5. For a five day trip, I'd off all expenses paid (since you're already committing to that) and R2000 (maybe R2500 since you've already established a high tln) shopping fund.

How long of a trip are you planning?

[QUOTE=Munamies;1876627]I'm pretty sure I've seen mention of people taking girls on "side vacations" before on the Rio forum, but doing a search couldn't dig them up.

Anyone have tips on inviting a girl to go on a side trip? Mostly on agreeing on a rate I guess.

There's a girl in SP I've seen for overnights on a bunch of occasions since October. A couple of the last dates were probably 15-16 hours where we'd go to a museum or art exhibition, dinner, then motel. She didn't ask for more than her standard overnight rate of are $800.

Was chatting on WhatsApp since I expect to be back in a few weeks. It being "cold" now in SP came up so I jokingly asked if she wanted to go to the Northeast with me, not expecting her to say yes, since she has a civilian job and is studying. But it's semester break and she is actually willing to take off from her job to go with me.

Not sure how to approach the price issue. Anyone have experience and a tip on that? Paid vacation is obviously a pretty good deal for any GP and I'd be providing a flight. Should I make an offer and hope to not offend her? Solicit a rate from her?[/QUOTE]You have spent some time with this girl, so lay out the plans and ask her what she thinks is fair. You might be surprised. One famous termas girl spent a week with me and never once mentioned money. At the end of the week she says, hate to bring this up but my rent is due (she shared a small place with other girls). I asked how much do you need and she said 120 Reais. Keep in mind these girls get banged on all the time. Treating them with respect goes a long way. BTW, when I tried to give the girl more than 120, she gave it back to me and said that was all she needed.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1876805]Asking her is setting yourself up to pay too much. If for five days she'll likely want R800 x 5. For a five day trip, I'd off all expenses paid (since you're already committing to that) and R2000 (maybe R2500 since you've already established a high tln) shopping fund.

How long of a trip are you planning?[/QUOTE]That's still being worked out. I'm guessing probably 5 days, maybe 6. I don't think she can get too many days off from her call-center job. A weekend, there's some holiday coming up, plus whatever she can get off.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1876816]You have spent some time with this girl, so lay out the plans and ask her what she thinks is fair. You might be surprised. One famous termas girl spent a week with me and never once mentioned money. At the end of the week she says, hate to bring this up but my rent is due (she shared a small place with other girls). I asked how much do you need and she said 120 Reais. Keep in mind these girls get banged on all the time. Treating them with respect goes a long way. BTW, when I tried to give the girl more than 120, she gave it back to me and said that was all she needed.[/QUOTE]That's pretty much what I was leaning towards.

When I was last in SP I went to Rio for a few days to meet with a friend from Ceara. I had wanted to stop at Ilha Grande on the way back but decided I'd probably not have too much fun there alone. Mentioned that to her as why I didn't when I got back to SP early and she said she would go with me to the beach.

It would be to a place she told me she dreams of going to, so I figure she'd probably want to spend more time there than less if she's getting the flight and other expenses covered and can get the extra time off. That's her main opportunity cost I'm guessing, as opposed to a full-time GP. I doubt I'm not her only customer, but she's not advertising at the moment (It's her personal number I have. Her GpFace, Twitter, GP-Whatsapp have all been long deleted. GP Guia topic is archived and no longer publicly visible) so she's probably not missing out on a whole lot of other clients.

You definitely have that right that treating them with respect goes a long way. I was apparently the first monger to take her out to dinner and she was surprised I let her choose where. The dates were longer after that. Last time I had a rental car and her glasses somehow ended up under the seat and she realized they were missing at 10 PM the day after. She couldn't believe I was willing to drive an hour each way to bring them to her in ABC on the night before I was leaving, as opposed to her trying to get to me and then to work in the morning to get them back.

So I kind of have the feeling it'll be an extremely good deal but didn't want to be insulting about it. Or I've marked myself as a potential sucker. In which case it'll be a shorter trip or my visit falls through until her university starts up again and the matter is settled that way.

Does anyone know if the HSBC branch in Centro (Rio) has English speaking staff on hand that can assist me with opening an account when I get there? I know the requirement for a tax ID number. I plan to obtain one prior to travel.

Thanks in advance!

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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1877805]Does anyone know if the HSBC branch in Centro (Rio) has English speaking staff on hand that can assist me with opening an account when I get there? I know the requirement for a tax ID number. I plan to obtain one prior to travel.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]You are going to need a resident visa as well to open a bank account in Brazil, unless things have changed.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1876816]You have spent some time with this girl, so lay out the plans and ask her what she thinks is fair. You might be surprised. One famous termas girl spent a week with me and never once mentioned money. At the end of the week she says, hate to bring this up but my rent is due (she shared a small place with other girls). I asked how much do you need and she said 120 Reais. Keep in mind these girls get banged on all the time. Treating them with respect goes a long way. BTW, when I tried to give the girl more than 120, she gave it back to me and said that was all she needed.[/QUOTE]Yes Exec Talent's example def happens. She would have to dig you like dating a normal guy which in their minds does happen. I wouldn't recommend paying a daily rate to anyone if you're taking them away to paradise for free.

Some gifts or help with stuff should suffice. If not, hold off untill you meet one who does feel like that. Once the lines get blurred between customer and someone they date-that's where you win.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1877866]You are going to need a resident visa as well to open a bank account in Brazil, unless things have changed.[/QUOTE]I think you're correct, in general. It seems HSBC and sometimes CITI will allow you to open one with a student or temporary resident visa.

I think step 1 is getting the CPF (tax ID) number though, which I'm trying to do before I get there. Also trying to get a certification in Teaching English as a Second Language to apply for online teaching jobs. For the work permit! Looking into property (residence) as well. Hoping to maybe have something just on paper for a nominal fee to get a notarized document to certify residence.

On my last trip to Brasil (unfortunately I can do it only once a year) I asked Ligia at Brooklin in So Paulo, if she wants to go with me to Floripa for a couple of days. Her answer was: what an indecent proposal. I asked her what kind of a girl is she, when asking her if I can use her back door is ok, but asking her for a weekend trip to a paradise, is indecent. Had a good laugh and great session, but next few days I had to satisfy myself with shrimps and oysters alone.

I would like to ask the guys with deeper knowledge of the Brasilians, if Floripa is an attractive destination for Paulistanas. I found it a great place and I'm planning a weeks side trip there or Balneario Camboriu, when the summer comes to Brasil again. I know a girl who would go with me, but I try to get somebody else, if possible.

Can anyone offer experience in using NFCU debit cards in ATMs in Rio? Wondering if I need to figure out other options.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Nordico;1877965]On my last trip to Brasil (unfortunately I can do it only once a year) I asked Ligia at Brooklin in So Paulo, if she wants to go with me to Floripa for a couple of days. Her answer was: what an indecent proposal. I asked her what kind of a girl is she, when asking her if I can use her back door is ok, but asking her for a weekend trip to a paradise, is indecent. Had a good laugh and great session, but next few days I had to satisfy myself with shrimps and oysters alone.

I would like to ask the guys with deeper knowledge of the Brasilians, if Floripa is an attractive destination for Paulistanas. I found it a great place and I'm planning a weeks side trip there or Balneario Camboriu, when the summer comes to Brasil again. I know a girl who would go with me, but I try to get somebody else, if possible.[/QUOTE]Floripa is nice but it's all about the beaches and the nightlife in Jurere (sp?) . And both of those are really only "happening" during the summer season (Dec-Mar). Which is exactly when it is super busy and full of tourists / visitors including Argentinians.

If you want a nice downtown with some cool restaurants that's easy to walk around, and not much else, rest of the year is fine. I like the Sofitel which is girl-friendly (always book room for 2 people).

FYI it can be cool / cold during winter.

Porto Alegre probably has more happening off the summer season.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1877965]I would like to ask the guys with deeper knowledge of the Brasilians, if Floripa is an attractive destination for Paulistanas. I found it a great place and I'm planning a weeks side trip there or Balneario Camboriu, when the summer comes to Brasil again. I know a girl who would go with me, but I try to get somebody else, if possible.[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't it be? Most Brazilians (people in general actually) never leave from where they are born. It trips them out to find out I know more of Brazil than they do. Me and my ex-girlfriend had a blast in Florianopolis as well. But then we used to enjoy each other's company so much that the setting really didn't matter for us.

[QUOTE=Nordico;1877965]On my last trip to Brasil (unfortunately I can do it only once a year) I asked Ligia at Brooklin in So Paulo, if she wants to go with me to Floripa for a couple of days. Her answer was: what an indecent proposal. I asked her what kind of a girl is she, when asking her if I can use her back door is ok, but asking her for a weekend trip to a paradise, is indecent. Had a good laugh and great session, but next few days I had to satisfy myself with shrimps and oysters alone.

I would like to ask the guys with deeper knowledge of the Brasilians, if Floripa is an attractive destination for Paulistanas. I found it a great place and I'm planning a weeks side trip there or Balneario Camboriu, when the summer comes to Brasil again. I know a girl who would go with me, but I try to get somebody else, if possible.[/QUOTE]Floripa is great between December and March. The rest of the year it's dead. During the summer it's sort of like a Brazilian version of Vegas from a party perspective (minus the gambling). Very hot women all over the place and surprisingly friendly.

The Paulistas love it as it's home to some of the world's best night life (Green Valley and Warung are perpetually rated in the 10 best clubs on the planet. More Balneario than Floripa). Can get expensive, but bottle service is about 25% of what Vegas costs these days.

During the day, check out Jurere Internacional (Cafe de la Musique is pretty fun), and in the evenings head into the city center (Confraria and El Divino are both pretty fun).

If you don't mind spending a few reais, Bokarra generally has some very hot women on offer, although you should expect to pay about are $800 which is not great value.

Also about the only place in Brazil where you can consistently get decent MDMA, which the working girls tend to love.

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1877836][URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/05/09/brazil-soccer-great-rivaldo-urges-foreigners-not-to-come-to-rio-for-the-olympics/[/URL][/QUOTE]If I were a conspiracy theorist, I'd think Goldman Sachs is working diligently to devalue the real. It seems someone is hating on Brazil. Breaking news, someone is murdered in a big city. (Sarcasm emoticon) Lots of hysteria and they forgot to mention the ridiculous rental fee on some Airbnb apartments.

Thanks for everybody for the great info. Looks like there are good chances to get somebody interested going there with me. Have done it with few Brazilian and Colombian GDP's when I was living in Spain.

I still have time to get myself in shape for the beach parties, but I haven't yet figured out, how to get 20 years younger.

Any good hobbying within an hour or two drive from Rio?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1879630]Any good hobbying within an hour or two drive from Rio?[/QUOTE]With the current traffic situation, it'll take you between 1 and 2 hours just to get out of the city limits! However, there are a few options on the outskirts of Rio.

Not sure if you consider Barra to be part or Rio (feels more like its own city to me), but Perola Negra in Barra and Paris Cafe in Recreio are decent options. Both alternate between terma style establishments (without the robes) and swinger clubs, so check the day on their websites.

Niteroi is stacked with attractive women, but I don't know any specific destinations. Decent incall options from [URL]niteroivips.com.br[/URL].

If you're in Buzios, there is an interesting house of ill-repute just on the outskirts. All the cab drivers know where it is, but I can't recall the address offhand. Just hop in a cab and ask for "putaria". About 15 minutes from the city center (rua das pedras).

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1880431]With the current traffic situation, it'll take you between 1 and 2 hours just to get out of the city limits! However, there are a few options on the outskirts of Rio.

Not sure if you consider Barra to be part or Rio (feels more like its own city to me), but Perola Negra in Barra and Paris Cafe in Recreio are decent options. Both alternate between terma style establishments (without the robes) and swinger clubs, so check the day on their websites.

Niteroi is stacked with attractive women, but I don't know any specific destinations. Decent incall options from [URL]niteroivips.com.br[/URL].

If you're in Buzios, there is an interesting house of ill-repute just on the outskirts. All the cab drivers know where it is, but I can't recall the address offhand. Just hop in a cab and ask for "putaria". About 15 minutes from the city center (rua das pedras).[/QUOTE]BackDoorD,

If there were Like and Follow buttons on this forum, I would be clicking both.

You have made some outstanding right-on contributions in just a few posts. Great to have you here.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1880431]With the current traffic situation, it'll take you between 1 and 2 hours just to get out of the city limits! However, there are a few options on the outskirts of Rio.

Not sure if you consider Barra to be part or Rio (feels more like its own city to me), but Perola Negra in Barra and Paris Cafe in Recreio are decent options. Both alternate between terma style establishments (without the robes) and swinger clubs, so check the day on their websites.

Niteroi is stacked with attractive women, but I don't know any specific destinations. Decent incall options from [URL]niteroivips.com.br[/URL].

If you're in Buzios, there is an interesting house of ill-repute just on the outskirts. All the cab drivers know where it is, but I can't recall the address offhand. Just hop in a cab and ask for "putaria". About 15 minutes from the city center (rua das pedras).[/QUOTE]Good stuff. Thanks bro!

For those that have a lot of time on the ground in Rio, can you give some insight on how folks dress in mid-August? Looking for both locals dress and tourist dress.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1881235]For those that have a lot of time on the ground in Rio, can you give some insight on how folks dress in mid-August? Looking for both locals dress and tourist dress.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Local dress is pretty much the same year around. Jeans, collared shirt, polo or T-shirt with design and black name brand tennis shoes. Beach weather is cargo shorts, T-shirt with design and Havaianas or tennis shoes. Sometimes sandals but those mostly are worn by tourists. I have seen girls dressed to the 9's in clubs requiring a 100 Reais cover with guys wearing jeans, a t-shirt and tennis shoes, but it is safer to wear a collared shirt when going out. BTW, Bob Marley is revered in Brazil.

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[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1881235]For those that have a lot of time on the ground in Rio, can you give some insight on how folks dress in mid-August? Looking for both locals dress and tourist dress.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Echoing Exec Talent's sentiments, the men in Rio generally don't dress well. They wear Havaianas pretty much everywhere, and getting dressed up implies jeans and a polo (maybe a dress shirt if they're feeling fancy). This manner of attire holds even at the fanciest restaurants in the city (Pre-Catalan, Olympe, Oro, etc).

If you're going out in Ipanema, Leblon, or even some of the nicer places like Nuth in Barra, there's no harm in dressing up as there are a lot of hedge fund / banker types in the area who do rock suits. These guys are generally pretty douchey, but the dress up routine does draw a certain breed of vagina.

If you're out in Copa, Lapa, Centro, or any of the other more middle class regions, dressing better than the locals will only make you a target for petty crime, which is really on the upswing at the moment.

In August the temperature can drop into the mid-teens (the coldest I've ever experienced in Rio is 14 C or about 72 F), and it's not uncommon to see guys with blazers over their jean / polo ensembles. Have a look at the forecast before you head down, but in rainy / cooler weather, having a few warmer clothing options will serve you well.

Sao Paulo is a different animal entirely, and slacks / dress shirts are a far more common site at the swisher bars in the wealthier neighborhoods.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1881235]For those that have a lot of time on the ground in Rio, can you give some insight on how folks dress in mid-August? Looking for both locals dress and tourist dress.

Thanks![/QUOTE]ExecTalent / Backdoor,

Thanks for the insight! BD, I have to say you scared me when you said the temps get in the teens! Damn metric system! Yes, I know the rest of the world uses it exclusively. I'm waiting for one of our Presidents as their last Executive order to abolish the "standard" system.

Rodeo

Hope members are smart enough to know which contributors are speaking from real-world experiences and those who seem to jump on every thread offering comments which don't ring true.

Sometimes these comments are harmless others can send someone in the wrong direction or waste their time. Some are downright dangerous. I have joked around with some ass clowns from time to time but generally try to provide helpful insights. Notice which members other members support and those who constantly are asked WTF are you talking about? Some bullshit can be ignored, but when it comes in such large volumes and in such great frequency it needs to be set straight.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZGb0kmHP7E[/URL]

All this is going to affect the number of people going to the games, Rio going to take a big hit on this!

[URL]http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/nation-now/150-health-professionals-call-for-olympics-in-rio-to-be-postponed-due-to-zika/217903931[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1885928]All this is going to affect the number of people going to the games, Rio going to take a big hit on this!

[URL]http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/nation-now/150-health-professionals-call-for-olympics-in-rio-to-be-postponed-due-to-zika/217903931[/URL][/QUOTE]It is amazing how Brazil finds ways to screw itself. The Zika virus, it might be argued in not exactly their fault.

Time and time again I have considered making major investments in Brazil and time and time again I have reached the same conclusion. Just not worth the risk.

By the time you deal with all the corruption, taxes and labor laws, the chance of a decent return on investment is almost nonexistent.

If someone wants to have a child, do you think they are going to chance a visit to Brazil?

More bad news for Rio de Janeiro. The mass r*pe of a young girl.
According the social media in Brazil the girl was used to hang out with the local bandits and to be their sex toy. Lots of photos of her posing with guns. The Comando Vermelho is now very pissed off as they thinks they are being falsely accused of a crime. The girl and her family needs to hide.
Sad that there are so many negative images of the host city for the Olympics.
[URL]http://oglobo.globo.com/rio/estupro-coletivo-no-rio-repercute-na-imprensa-internacional-19383596[/URL]

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1886017]It is amazing how Brazil finds ways to screw itself. The Zika virus, it might be argued in not exactly their fault.

Time and time again I have considered making major investments in Brazil and time and time again I have reached the same conclusion. Just not worth the risk.

By the time you deal with all the corruption, taxes and labor laws, the chance of a decent return on investment is almost nonexistent.

If someone wants to have a child, do you think they are going to chance a visit to Brazil?[/QUOTE]You know, you can really make the case that Brazil is one of the world's best investment opportunities at the moment (or in the near future). The BRL has lost over 50% of its value relative to the USD in the last year and for the first time in 20 years there are actually distressed asset plays available.

Personally, I suspect the BRL is going to get absolutely shit kicked once either Banco do Brasil or Caixa Federal (two of the state owned banks) require a bail out. Take a look at their non-performing loan levels. They are completely fucked. Also interesting is that fully 40% of Brazilians are currently in default on at least one form of personal credit. Once it becomes broadly understood how unsustainable the government, corporate and even private citizen debt levels really are, I suspect there will be a major flight from the "risk" of Brazil (especially if commodity prices stay low for the next 3-9 months). Petrobras is probably also going to need a bail out if oil doesn't get back above 60 in 12 months. Politically, one of the new president's generals was just recorded trying to kill the ongoing "Lavo Jato" corruption investigation. Once Dilma is officially impeached, if Temer doesn't hold new elections, there may actually be blood in the streets; there's a very low likelihood Temer stays a full year and half. Add it all up and you have a recipe for a major economic hiccup.

If the BRL goes to 5 against the USD or lower, I'd pile in. Easy money to made in real estate in Rio. Banks only lend at 80% LTV (at best), and they won't let you get a loan if the payment is on that loan is more than 30% of the gross of your salary. Amazingly, they don't, nor have they ever actually had, a housing bubble. Real estate prices have spiked from 2004-2014 on the back of a rising economy and the "availability" of mortgages. But you still needed 20% down and the mortgage ran at least 8%/ year (currently 10-14%, depending on where you bank and the size of the loan you need).

Eventually commodity prices will start climbing, and the BRL will go up with it, and people will wish that they'd invested in Brazil while everything went to shit. I've seen this movie before.

BackdoorD,

Nice, overview of Brasil's economic outlook! Can I ask what sources you generally rely on for your insight? Obviously, you put together your own analysis probably of various sources. I'd like to follow some of the better sources of the Brazilian financial and economic world for my own better understanding.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1886323]You know, you can really make the case that Brazil is one of the world's best investment opportunities at the moment (or in the near future). The BRL has lost over 50% of its value relative to the USD in the last year and for the first time in 20 years there are actually distressed asset plays available.

Personally, I suspect the BRL is going to get absolutely shit kicked once either Banco do Brasil or Caixa Federal (two of the state owned banks) require a bail out. Take a look at their non-performing loan levels. They are completely fucked. Also interesting is that fully 40% of Brazilians are currently in default on at least one form of personal credit. Once it becomes broadly understood how unsustainable the government, corporate and even private citizen debt levels really are, I suspect there will be a major flight from the "risk" of Brazil (especially if commodity prices stay low for the next 3-9 months). Petrobras is probably also going to need a bail out if oil doesn't get back above 60 in 12 months. Politically, one of the new president's generals was just recorded trying to kill the ongoing "Lavo Jato" corruption investigation. Once Dilma is officially impeached, if Temer doesn't hold new elections, there may actually be blood in the streets; there's a very low likelihood Temer stays a full year and half. Add it all up and you have a recipe for a major economic hiccup..[/QUOTE]Oh, I have made money in Forex and other markets all along.

I was talking about real investment. Every time I get ready to pony up, it becomes abundantly clear all over again why I didn't the last time.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1886554]BackdoorD,

Nice, overview of Brasil's economic outlook! Can I ask what sources you generally rely on for your insight? Obviously, you put together your own analysis probably of various sources. I'd like to follow some of the better sources of the Brazilian financial and economic world for my own better understanding.

Thanks![/QUOTE]The best source for information on the BR economy is probably Valor ([URL]www.valor.com.br[/URL]). It's the BR version of the Wall Street Journal, but far less sophisticated. A yearly subscription is about USD 100, and you've have to used your browser's embedded translation function to get it in English. If you're looking for something free, Itau, the largest bank in Brazil, has a research app that you can download for free from apple's store or google play and publishes a lot of English research. Their research is pretty good, but they, and every other big bank in Brazil, don't stray too far from the government's message, as banking the Brazilian government is hugely lucrative. If you have access to other investment bank research, JP Morgan's Brazil desk is pretty good. Goldman has been really bearish of late, while 18 months ago they advised a good friend not to hedge BRL 5 m (against my advice) because it was going to cost 10% a year. Would have saved him 40%. I've had other issues with Goldman's Brazil's calls, and I just don't think they've done a good job of fully understanding this market, although I generally do like their research.

Folha de Sao Paulo's economic section is pretty good, while OGlobo's is hit and miss. FSP has an English language option on their site.

There's also a magazine called Exame that's pretty good, but again it's in Portuguese. Good luck!

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1887041]The best source for information on the BR economy is probably Valor ([URL]www.valor.com.br[/URL]). It's the BR version of the Wall Street Journal, but far less sophisticated. A yearly subscription is about USD 100, and you've have to used your browser's embedded translation function to get it in English. If you're looking for something free, Itau, the largest bank in Brazil, has a research app that you can download for free from apple's store or google play and publishes a lot of English research. Their research is pretty good, but they, and every other big bank in Brazil, don't stray too far from the government's message, as banking the Brazilian government is hugely lucrative. If you have access to other investment bank research, JP Morgan's Brazil desk is pretty good. Goldman has been really bearish of late, while 18 months ago they advised a good friend not to hedge BRL 5 m (against my advice) because it was going to cost 10% a year. Would have saved him 40%. I've had other issues with Goldman's Brazil's calls, and I just don't think they've done a good job of fully understanding this market, although I generally do like their research.

Folha de Sao Paulo's economic section is pretty good, while OGlobo's is hit and miss. FSP has an English language option on their site.

There's also a magazine called Exame that's pretty good, but again it's in Portuguese. Good luck![/QUOTE]Good stuff; thanks!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1886554]BackdoorD,

Nice, overview of Brasil's economic outlook! Can I ask what sources you generally rely on for your insight? Obviously, you put together your own analysis probably of various sources. I'd like to follow some of the better sources of the Brazilian financial and economic world for my own better understanding.

Thanks![/QUOTE]Nothing beats it. Daily I read an outrageous amount, keeping in mind that what is happening in China, for example, may impact the Brazilian economy. News Now is a great site to keep you up to date. I enjoy reading The Economist and Foreign Policy for a more detailed long-term perspective.

[URL]http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Business[/URL]+&+Finance / Economy / International / Brazil.

However, want to know what really is going on? When you are in country, get to know some Cambio and business owners. Want to find out about the real estate market, get to know the people who deal with it every day. When in Rio I regularly visit with hotel owners and staff. Centaurus, Solarium and Monte Carlo are great places to meet and chat with Brazilian businessmen and politicians. Back in the day, those lawn chairs in L'uomo used to be a haven for international businessmen. So much so that the manager would send girls in to distract us from our conversations. You will need to get up to speed on Portuguese paying particular attention to business terminology. And, don't forget the man or woman on the street. Even when you are in the US, there are many opportunities to interact with Brazilians. Join the Brazilian American Chamber of Commerce, for example.

Do avoid 99.99% of Ex-Pats who will try to convince you that they have the next great business idea. Black holes are not only located in space.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1887376]Nothing beats it. Daily I read an outrageous amount, keeping in mind that what is happening in China, for example, may impact the Brazilian economy. News Now is a great site to keep you up to date. I enjoy reading The Economist and Foreign Policy for a more detailed long-term perspective.

[URL]http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Business[/URL]+&+Finance / Economy / International / Brazil.

However, want to know what really is going on? When you are in country, get to know some Cambio and business owners. Want to find out about the real estate market, get to know the people who deal with it every day. When in Rio I regularly visit with hotel owners and staff. Centaurus, Solarium and Monte Carlo are great places to meet and chat with Brazilian businessmen and politicians. Back in the day, those lawn chairs in L'uomo used to be a haven for international businessmen. So much so that the manager would send girls in to distract us from our conversations. You will need to get up to speed on Portuguese paying particular attention to business terminology. And, don't forget the man or woman on the street. Even when you are in the US, there are many opportunities to interact with Brazilians. Join the Brazilian American Chamber of Commerce, for example.

Do avoid 99.99% of Ex-Pats who will try to convince you that they have the next great business idea. Black holes are not only located in space.[/QUOTE]Well said sir!

Just wondering what a good price would be on a domestic airline flying from Rio to SP? I'm looking for just an average round trip price for a spur of the moment, last minute, overnight trip. Please note which airline as well.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1889337]Just wondering what a good price would be on a domestic airline flying from Rio to SP? I'm looking for just an average round trip price for a spur of the moment, last minute, overnight trip. Please note which airline as well.

Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Azul is often cheap ([URL]voeazul.com.br[/URL]), and so is Gol (sometimes, [URL]voegol.com.br[/URL]). When booking go from SDU to CGH (the smaller domestic airports). Book the cheapest flight later in the day you want to travel and then just show up at the airport whenever you actually feel like going and they'll just put you on the next flight for no additional fees. About the only thing Brazil does well is domestic air travel. It's like catching a bus. Just got to the "ponte aerea" desk at the airport if you want to fly earlier. Ponte Aerea literally means air bridge. Rio / SP is the most serviced air travel route in the world, apparently, so you've got a lot of options.

You can get return flights for as low as about are $250, but average is probably closer to are $350 return.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1889482]Azul is often cheap ([URL]voeazul.com.br[/URL]), and so is Gol (sometimes, [URL]voegol.com.br[/URL]). When booking go from SDU to CGH (the smaller domestic airports). Book the cheapest flight later in the day you want to travel and then just show up at the airport whenever you actually feel like going and they'll just put you on the next flight for no additional fees. About the only thing Brazil does well is domestic air travel. It's like catching a bus. Just got to the "ponte aerea" desk at the airport if you want to fly earlier. Ponte Aerea literally means air bridge. Rio / SP is the most serviced air travel route in the world, apparently, so you've got a lot of options.

You can get return flights for as low as about are $250, but average is probably closer to are $350 return.[/QUOTE]Cool, thanks! I wonder if anyone has gone garota hunting in SP and brought his blonde / blue eyed beauty back to Rio for a stay.

Besides Rio and São Paulo, where are the best cities / towns for mongering in Brazil? Why?

What does "sou sarada e tarada" mean? "I'm all healed and tared" in the context of adult classifieds does not really make sense to me.

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1892296]What does "sou sarada e tarada" mean? "I'm all healed and tared" in the context of adult classifieds does not really make sense to me.[/QUOTE]Ok, Sarada more or less means I am in great shape, like a body builder, do you have a picture of her? I don't know what tarada means but it's probably related since she says and tarada.

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1892296]What does "sou sarada e tarada" mean? "I'm all healed and tared" in the context of adult classifieds does not really make sense to me.[/QUOTE]Sarada = shredded / lean muscle physique.

Tarada = generally high sexual prowess.

Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in BRL)?

-Electricity.

-Water.

-Gas.

-Groceries (family of 5).

-Childcare.

-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131][CodeWord131][/url].

-Milk (baby formula).

-Airline ticket (say, Roundtrip Rio-Salvador).

-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).

-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.

-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo

It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?

Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?

[QUOTE=Jan156;1895230]It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?
Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?[/QUOTE]I miss your quality reports in the Brazil forum.

[QUOTE=Jan156;1895230]It's a strange request Rodeo, and one you've just posted in the Colombia board as well. Why?

Are you planning to sugar-daddy a chica and choosing a country to hit on?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm visiting both countries shortly. I'm just entertaining the idea of speaking to girls in terms of their needs instead of just dollars / pesos. I think this would especially be effective with semi / non pros. If I'm small talking with a non pro at a bar and she keeps emphasizing that she needs to buy groceries for her mom, I'd like to know what a cart of groceries costs so I don't offer 150 mil COP, when 40 mil would do the trick. Or, for her to tell me groceries cost 150 mil, and I agree not knowing the scale. Just trying to increase my understanding of costs and needs. Nothing more cosmic than that!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1895284]Well, I'm visiting both countries shortly. I'm just entertaining the idea of speaking to girls in terms of their needs instead of just dollars / pesos. I think this would especially be effective with semi / non pros. If I'm small talking with a non pro at a bar and she keeps emphasizing that she needs to buy groceries for her mom, I'd like to know what a cart of groceries costs so I don't offer 150 mil COP, when 40 mil would do the trick. Or, for her to tell me groceries cost 150 mil, and I agree not knowing the scale. Just trying to increase my understanding of costs and needs. Nothing more cosmic than that![/QUOTE]Fair enough. But not sure it wil work quite like that in the modern Brazilian cities. Common stories for needing money are medical bills for a mother (imposible to estimate). I would maybe take a non-pro shopping at the supermarket if we were going back to her place. I think you would have to be incredibly smooth just to give a non-pro money for groceries without it sounding patronisingly rude. Getting cash from foreigners is programa, usually in exchange for sex or in exchange for sfa, so the only interest is the actual amount. Brazilians in the main cities are not exactly dumb. They can think fast and manipulate emotions as easy as falling off a log. You could maybe use the 'shopping money' ruse if both of you really know it is a euphemism for something else. If you are talking with most non-pros and you are neither a great dancer or have great Portuguese, it is likely hat they are highly educated enough to speak English and have a lot more hot prospects than a foreigner popping in for a short time. Supermarket prices are fairly stable, only slightly cheaper in poor areas. Home produce is understandably cheaper whereas posh French cheese is obviously very expensive. Go down a supermarket to buy some beers to have a look (beers are very cheap compared to what you pay in any tourist bar! There's always the BigMac index of course.

Medellin Colombia is a bit different depending where you go. I don't think the shopping basket idea will help much, but good luck. Very little English spoken outside of Poblado, Medellin that I've come across. In Rio, a little English spoken in Copacabana and sex places frequented by tourists and not that much elsewhere. In SP often a casa manager will speak a bit of English and may recommend a girl that speaks English if they have one for instance. Given the high level of sophistication in much of SP they would possibly find your idea of 'helping out' a little amusing and then move on. It's not exactly the Philippines!

Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1897048]Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?[/QUOTE]Termas and clinicas are all safe to use your credit card. Ensure you've got a chip in your credit card. If you don't have a chip, you will get your card cloned at some point, most likely at a restaurant. At restaurants always make sure the waiter brings the credit card machine to you, and don't let him take your card.

Most CC cloning happens at the generic bank machines (they're called "24 horas") in supermarkets, malls, etc. The banks are all very safe. In the event your card is used without your permission at house if ill repute, when you complain, the house risks its use of that credit card going forward, so it's not worth it for them.

Even some independents take cards now. A company called PagoSeguro has a small handheld device that allows anyone to accept cards, and cost about are $700 so they are quite affordable. These are also very safe.

[QUOTE=AllTooHorny;1897048]Is the use of credit cards at termas or clinicas significantly more risky than most other businesses? Does it vary widely from one terma or clinica to another? If so, are there any you would recommend against?

Also, are there any reasons beyond the danger of fraud and the protection of privacy against using cards there?[/QUOTE]I think you will be fine using a credit card at the termas in terms of fraud. BUT they do often have a 10% surcharge or worse if using a credit card.

[QUOTE=Junior;1897098]I think you will be fine using a credit card at the termas in terms of fraud. BUT they do often have a 10% surcharge or worse if using a credit card.[/QUOTE]I think someone reported before that they used their card in 4 X4 and later there was fraud on it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1897133]I think someone reported before that they used their card in 4 X4 and later there was fraud on it.[/QUOTE]I received a fraud alert from AMEX last week. Evidently the transactions originated from Brazil. The people attempted to spend $700+ with a SA airline and also book a hotel in Peru for $400. I was last in Brazil in April and only used the card at 4 x4 and Monte Carlo. It was really strange that they waited 2 months after the vacation to take advantage of the card. The AMEX representative was extremely helpful and said not to let his spoil my weekend and everything will be taken care of. I "suspect" it is one of the smiling faces at Monte Carlo and I plan to tell Ivan the manager when I see him next week as this has happened to me before. 4 x4 at least the owners are usually around the reception / cashier so that may be a deterrent. Sorry for not posting about this experience before the question and hope this helps others.

To start a new thread, do you have to be a paid member or can only Admin do it? How do you contact Admin if their inbox is always full?

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At least it's still a good time to monger.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhP9ZCTsUM[/URL]

[QUOTE=Safado69;1901701]At least it's still a good time to monger.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhP9ZCTsUM[/URL][/QUOTE]I have watched 3 minutes and am amazed at just how well these reporters got a handle on the issues.

Wish some of the mainline media did as well.

Brazilians sure know how to fuck (themselves) but wonder in this case if they also might have had a little help from their Northern neighbor who was pissed that Olympics was not being held in their equality crime-ridden central USA city.

Maybe good for mongers now! But that will depend on how the airlines react.

Airline prices go any higher, that will kill what left of the monger scene. Right now next year showing about $1,500 out of Atlanta. Needs to be in the $900 range. Goes up to over $2,000 then its not worth it.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1902053]I have watched 3 minutes and am amazed at just how well these reporters got a handle on the issues.

Wish some of the mainline media did as well.

Brazilians sure know how to fuck (themselves) but wonder in this case if they also might have had a little help from their Northern neighbor who was pissed that Olympics was not being held in their equality crime-ridden central USA city.[/QUOTE]I'm from Chicago and I was relieved and happy that we didn't get the Olympics. And every one I know here felt the same way.

Exactly how has Brasil been helped (fucking themselves) by the US?

[QUOTE=Combo;1902387]I'm from Chicago and I was relieved and happy that we didn't get the Olympics. And every one I know here felt the same way.

Exactly how has Brasil been helped (fucking themselves) by the US?[/QUOTE]Politicians obviously were lobbying strongly for the Olympics in Chicago.

It also did not go well that the President of Brazil, Dilma Rousseff, called off her state visit because of US spying.

When you have been on the inside, it never ceases to amaze what those on the outside will believe.

Like I said, Brazil is exceptionally good as screwing themselves, but the US, as well as other countries, often have a hand in helping things along and not just in this case.

So, I had this idea for non-pro mongering. I wonder if hiring the hottie I want to bang as a cook or maid might be the best way for a girl otherwise against being a GDP, to then agree to doing the deed! Seems like it would buy them a legitimate cover story for family and friends. Of course, I know there are those non pros who might take the proposition for sex straight up but, trying not to get slapped. I know the whole pitch needs to be done carefully, but with limited Porto, my suave-ness might not come across as I would like it to. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1902560]So, I had this idea for non-pro mongering. I wonder if hiring the hottie I want to bang as a cook or maid might be the best way for a girl otherwise against being a GDP, to then agree to doing the deed! Seems like it would buy them a legitimate cover story for family and friends. Of course, I know there are those non pros who might take the proposition for sex straight up but, trying not to get slapped. I know the whole pitch needs to be done carefully, but with limited Porto, my suave-ness might not come across as I would like it to. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Thats too elaborate and unnecessary -if they are into you they don't need you to create a cover-up! They all make up lies quite easily. Brazilians lie alot! Little white lies for days. Girls got stories ready-don't worry. Just go for who you dig-a non pro will want to be treated well just like a pro. Food and drink etc go out a bit. Most popular lie is that a GDP is a nanny / babysitter (baba). This also works for Non-pros.Intruiging idea but they might just come and cook or clean and get paid!lol

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1902560]So, I had this idea for non-pro mongering. I wonder if hiring the hottie I want to bang as a cook or maid might be the best way for a girl otherwise against being a GDP, to then agree to doing the deed![/QUOTE]Ahhh yeah. But why not just get a girlfriend that knows how to cook and clean? Like Fuck said you keep bringing up all kinds of elaborate and unnecessary schemes. Just go and have fun and save the fantasy stuff for guys who are staying in their mom's basement.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1902685]Ahhh yeah. But why not just get a girlfriend that knows how to cook and clean? Like Fuck said you keep bringing up all kinds of elaborate and unnecessary schemes. Just go and have fun and save the fantasy stuff for guys who are staying in their mom's basement.[/QUOTE]Ha, okay! I guess I earned that one.

Jubby007,

Brought up a very real problem with investing in Brazil in the Rio Report thread the discussion of which I have moved here.

There is a reason so many people want to invest in the US. At the end of the day, you actually might make a profit. Most educated Brazilians want to work for the government because they see that as the only way they can get rich. The US unfortunately is also moving the way of Brazil. Do a search on private vs. Public salaries and benefits if you don't believe me.

The reason that the real estate owners are so upset is historically that is how people got rich in Brazil. You work for the government, you invest in real estate. If you are in the right position, you collect payoffs for steering contracts a certain way. The number of deals I have considered and passed on in Brazil would make your head spin. It always came down to the risk vs. Reward. Brazilians focus on the short-term and what is in it for them. They have no concept of long-term business relationships unless it is one that involves a kickback. This does not mean you cannot make money in the short-term. You just might, but when someone sees you making it, they are going to try to figure a way to get it from you.

How can an illegal business like a brothel (termas) exist in Brazil? It exists because police, judges and politicians want a place to hang out and the aforementioned get paid to look the other way. When someone makes waves or wants too big a piece of the pie, then those businesses cease to exist.

Hey all,

I've been tasked with organizing a bachelor party in Brazil (or possible Colombia) and I have to admit I have no idea where to start.

I guess to state the obvious, I'm asking on this board because I'm looking for information on;.

-What part of Brazil is the best to monger?

-What are the average costs for an attractive women?

-What are some pitfalls I should keep my eye out for.

I appreciate any info shared and will do my best to write a detailed report upon my return.

P.S. I'll be posting the same question in the Colombia section.

Thanks,

Heath

[QUOTE=Heath;1910846]I've been tasked with organizing a bachelor party in Brazil (or possible Colombia) and I have to admit I have no idea where to start.

I guess to state the obvious, I'm asking on this board because I'm looking for information on;.

-What part of Brazil is the best to monger?[/QUOTE]Hint: Go to the front page of each country. You will see the number of reports in each section. The section with the highest number of reports will generally be the best places to monger. Start reading now, or divvy up the reading between the other bachelor party goers and work from there.

[QUOTE=Heath;1910846]Hey all,

I've been tasked with organizing a bachelor party in Brazil (or possible Colombia) and I have to admit I have no idea where to start.

I guess to state the obvious, I'm asking on this board because I'm looking for information on;.

-What part of Brazil is the best to monger?

-What are the average costs for an attractive women?

-What are some pitfalls I should keep my eye out for.

I appreciate any info shared and will do my best to write a detailed report upon my return.

P.S. I'll be posting the same question in the Colombia section.

Thanks,

Heath[/QUOTE]Hey man,

I had my bachelor party in Floripa many moons ago. An awesome place for a bachelor party. The night life is insane (if you're there between Dec-Mar), and the women are the hottest in the country by a mile (if you're looking for model quality, European looking girls). From a mongering perspective, the options are pretty expensive, but there are loads of reliable websites for escorts in that region, so getting a few girls round to your apartment / condo is pretty easy and lots of fun.

If you're just looking to monger, then Rio or SP are your best bets. Rio's got the beach, so your daytime will be better in Rio than SP, but restaurants and nightlife are better in SP.

Is the south, (Floripa), hot girls run about BRL 300-500 for a couple of hours. In SP prices range from about BRL 200 - 400 (they can run about 1,000 if you want a girl who's actually been in Playboy), and in Rio prices are pretty comparable to SP. There are cheaper options in Rio, like Vila Mimosa, but that may be a bit terrifying for a bachelor party.

I hosted a friends bachelor party in Rio about 2 years ago. We rented a 4 bedroom penthouse on Copa beach with a pool on our deck and filled it up daily. Good times for all.

Easy to arrange party favors in Rio (variable quality blow is available everywhere), but easier, cheaper, and better quality in Colombia. SP is also pretty easy. Tougher to sort out in Floripa unless you know someone. However, if you see a group of gay guys, ask them, as gay dudes tend to have the best party favors the world over. Nothing like lining up a giant line in a beautiful woman's ass crack. Also easy to sort out Viagra if this type of party is up your alley, but do be careful with your heart, especially if guys are overweight.

If you don't know south America, your best bet is Rio. It's just the easiest. Weather's good, you can dress it up as a beach vacation to the fiance, and the daytime pictures will mask the nighttime debauchery. Bogota's a great city, but the weather sucks, Cartagena is a bit too romantic and the beaches are sort of shit, and tragically I don't know Medellin so can't offer a first hand account (although I'm desperate to check it out).

Good luck.

Guys,

I asked this question in my other favorite forum (Germany FKK), and decided to ask it here too in order to get more viewpoints. Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time? Is it normal to feel sad that you know you may never see that girl again? I mean with Marina (a girl I was with in Sao Paulo) and me, it wasn't just sex. We spent a lot of time talking about life, love, politics and everything. She told me some very personal things about her life. I really enjoyed her. Well, maybe it's all just for the best. These girls are prostitutes who pleasure many men from around the globe. Maybe I'm just a monger feeling a need for a little love.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1912678]Guys,

I asked this question in my other favorite forum (Germany FKK), and decided to ask it here too in order to get more viewpoints. Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time? Is it normal to feel sad that you know you may never see that girl again? I mean with Marina (a girl I was with in Sao Paulo) and me, it wasn't just sex. We spent a lot of time talking about life, love, politics and everything. She told me some very personal things about her life. I really enjoyed her. Well, maybe it's all just for the best. These girls are prostitutes who pleasure many men from around the globe. Maybe I'm just a monger feeling a need for a little love.[/QUOTE]Of course you're going to bond with some of the girls you meet.

Good chemistry, good communication, good sex, etc will lead to that.

Why not get her contact info and make an 'amizade' friendship.

Of course you can still help (her out when you hook up, but it's fun.

I do it all the time in both Colombia and Brazil.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1912678]Guys,

I asked this question in my other favorite forum (Germany FKK), and decided to ask it here too in order to get more viewpoints. Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time? Is it normal to feel sad that you know you may never see that girl again? I mean with Marina (a girl I was with in Sao Paulo) and me, it wasn't just sex. We spent a lot of time talking about life, love, politics and everything. She told me some very personal things about her life. I really enjoyed her. Well, maybe it's all just for the best. These girls are prostitutes who pleasure many men from around the globe. Maybe I'm just a monger feeling a need for a little love.[/QUOTE]Ill give it to you straight with no trivia.

I have had many mini-relationships with gdps. No pay-- it never works out. Because why would I date a hooker?. I wouldn't do it at home so because its sexy and she's good why?

Let me tell you that many of them have very sad stories, traumatic upbringings, Disfunctional homes, violence, drugs. Once you start to want to save one-and I have seen one 18 year old who was in biz for a month and then quit-and it does play on your mind some times. You can convince yourself it was just a month -2 months etc but the reality is, they stepped into it out of desperation, family debt (very normal) etc etc-lack of formal education.

Its hard to be a social worker and a monger. Doesn't really work,. Well what actually happens is you will drift out of monger scene and just have normal gfs here in Brazil.

Thats what happened to me.

I mean its great spending 4 days with Adriana from MC for free but now she's a broke chick scrambling to get an education, has no phone etc. I mean that's not that attractive a proposition.

We really have to watch the level of involvement with them. Keep it fun but always got to remind ourselves this is not marriage material. NEVER.

Most go back to it once relationships inevitably break up. The money in real life is too hard to make--this is too quick, too "easy"of course its much harder than a normal job but we just like to think they enjoy it).

They develop feelings too believe it or not and for a minute they deceive themselves away from reality of a terma into a mini-thing which then gets blurred because they ask you to meet em at terma once in a while anyway.The ones who refuse to see you at their work or wanna quite because they fear they will lose you obviously want you as their BF,but you will be father,BF,official life sponsor and to their mother etc,spnsoring education etc etc.

I'm under no illusions with them-and there are some great girls, lovely girls amongst them but some are trainwrecks-pretty train wrecks and you can't get it back on track.

Especially since in Brazil there are so many horny normal girls.

Right now I'm meeting prospects off Cupid and have a plan be overseas.

Lets enjoy them for what they are and like it was said-by all means you can be platonic friends but don't get sucked in. I think we all have a bit. Brazil doesn't help. The environment is seductive as hell.

My 2 cents.

Abracos.

[QUOTE=TheCane;1912678]Guys,

I asked this question in my other favorite forum (Germany FKK), and decided to ask it here too in order to get more viewpoints. Is it possible to "miss" one of these girls after seeing her and having sex only one time? Is it normal to feel sad that you know you may never see that girl again? I mean with Marina (a girl I was with in Sao Paulo) and me, it wasn't just sex. We spent a lot of time talking about life, love, politics and everything. She told me some very personal things about her life. I really enjoyed her. Well, maybe it's all just for the best. These girls are prostitutes who pleasure many men from around the globe. Maybe I'm just a monger feeling a need for a little love.[/QUOTE]The Cane,

I think we all have got that feeling at one time or another it's more of a withdrawal from a good vacation I was station in Hawaii in the Navy I would see tourist get hit up for timeshares all the time they are high from having a fun great trip and than get a offer for a free breakfast or boat ride and than get preyed on paying for a hotel room for 30 years LOL. I even seen married sailors with kids with 15 years in with ONLY 5 years to retire throw it all away and even miss ship movement because they met some fine chick in Rome or somewhere and think they in love. BUT what I have done in the past when I hit it off with a Terma girl etc. I ask for her Facebook, e-mail, twitter, instagram, phone info and stay in touch IF and ONLY if I know she will be coming to the States or I will be returning I have kept in touch with some girls for over 10 years I have watch some get married or have babies start business or move overseas or gain weight I seen pictures they post of their family and friends and their boyfriends etc.

One thing I notice once they hook up with a jealous Americans guy either by getting married to them or moving in with one that moved to Brazil and the guy force them to closed down ALL their social media by unfriending me and all the guys they have on their page etc. LOL BUT just like clock work sooner or later I get a e-mail or something asking how am I doing? BUT there are some that I NEVER hear from again so can a girl go and leave the game I am sure a few can BUT with all the single girls I seen these chicks hanging out with that look 10 times better than them that are their friends that have became friends with if I was still out there I rather try my luck with one of them that never been in the game because I have ran into so many Brazilian Club Help girls here in the States its not funny.

One last funny story I am friends with this one chick for a long time on Facebook I thought she was a normal chick and wasn't in the game UNTIL I seen a report online with pictures of this chick and a guy posting how much he paid her for her time till this very day she doesn't know I know she sold a trick some pussy or is selling ass from time to time the bottom line is even when you think you found a so called sweet good girl she still may have or still do sell pussy on the side.

Kid Cisco.

So, I was wondering, since I've had success in turning lesbian girls bi, I was wondering if anyone had a line on how pervasive that demographic (lesbian or bisexual women) are in Rio. Not talking gay for pay, but those that truly like being with women. Are there lesbian clubs? Is it kept under wraps? I'll tell you, nothing like giving a girl the the when she hasn't had it in years! Even better when her girlfriend joins in!

Thanks!

Well there is a gay section on Ipanema beach, that would be one place you can hang out, they have the rainbow flags flying and that section is usually packed.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1913844]So, I was wondering, since I've had success in turning lesbian girls bi, I was wondering if anyone had a line on how pervasive that demographic (lesbian or bisexual women) are in Rio. Not talking gay for pay, but those that truly like being with women. Are there lesbian clubs? Is it kept under wraps? I'll tell you, nothing like giving a girl the the when she hasn't had it in years! Even better when her girlfriend joins in!

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1914785]Well there is a gay section on Ipanema beach, that would be one place you can hang out, they have the rainbow flags flying and that section is usually packed.[/QUOTE]Are there many gay women around though? I'm not trying to just be hanging around a bunch of gay dudes!

I have a question for some of you guys who have been to Rio on NY eve. I understand that Copacabana will have millions of people up to and during midnight festivities and streets will be closed off and traffic a nightmare but I am planning to stay outside of Copacabana like near Barra for example. My question is do you think I would be able to get from Barra to Copacabana about 8 or 9 PM? Any advice on best way to get to Copa? Maybe taxi to Ipanema and walk or take the metro from Ipanema to Copa? Do you think I would be able to take a taxi all the way to Copa? What about going back at about 1 am? Any advice would be helpful, Thank you.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1915180]I have a question for some of you guys who have been to Rio on NY eve. I understand that Copacabana will have millions of people up to and during midnight festivities and streets will be closed off and traffic a nightmare but I am planning to stay outside of Copacabana like near Barra for example. My question is do you think I would be able to get from Barra to Copacabana about 8 or 9 PM? Any advice on best way to get to Copa? Maybe taxi to Ipanema and walk or take the metro from Ipanema to Copa? Do you think I would be able to take a taxi all the way to Copa? What about going back at about 1 am? Any advice would be helpful, Thank you.[/QUOTE]I have done NYE in Copa a few times, but always staying there.

It is extremely crowded and it will take a very long time to get there from Barra in the evening.

I would go in the afternoon spend some time at the beach before the celebrations and return to Barra in the morning.

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;1915180]I have a question for some of you guys who have been to Rio on NY eve. I understand that Copacabana will have millions of people up to and during midnight festivities and streets will be closed off and traffic a nightmare but I am planning to stay outside of Copacabana like near Barra for example. My question is do you think I would be able to get from Barra to Copacabana about 8 or 9 PM? Any advice on best way to get to Copa? Maybe taxi to Ipanema and walk or take the metro from Ipanema to Copa? Do you think I would be able to take a taxi all the way to Copa? What about going back at about 1 am? Any advice would be helpful, Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Go to Copacabana very early. The traffic will be very chaotic. Getting a taxi back to Barra at 1 AM will be very difficult.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1913315]Ill give it to you straight with no trivia.

I have had many mini-relationships with gdps. No pay-- it never works out. Because why would I date a hooker?. I wouldn't do it at home so because its sexy and she's good why?

Let me tell you that many of them have very sad stories, traumatic upbringings, Disfunctional homes, violence, drugs. Once you start to want to save one-and I have seen one 18 year old who was in biz for a month and then quit-and it does play on your mind some times. You can convince yourself it was just a month -2 months etc but the reality is, they stepped into it out of desperation, family debt (very normal) etc etc-lack of formal education.

Its hard to be a social worker and a monger. Doesn't really work,. Well what actually happens is you will drift out of monger scene and just have normal gfs here in Brazil.

Thats what happened to me.

I mean its great spending 4 days with Adriana from MC for free but now she's a broke chick scrambling to get an education, has no phone etc. I mean that's not that attractive a proposition.

.[/QUOTE]Man just made the connection. Yes Adriana was first team all MC. My first encounter was not even a session in the terma she straight up insisted on coming to my apartment did not ask for a cent. Every now and then I see her post something thought she met her prince charming.

[QUOTE=KidCisco;1913384]The Cane,



One thing I notice once they hook up with a jealous Americans guy either by getting married to them or moving in with one that moved to Brazil and the guy force them to closed down ALL their social media by unfriending me and all the guys they have on their page etc. LOL BUT just like clock work sooner or later I get a e-mail or something asking how am I doing? BUT there are some that I NEVER hear from again so can a girl go and leave the game I am sure a few can BUT with all the single girls I seen these chicks hanging out with that look 10 times better than them that are their friends that have became friends with if I was still out there I rather try my luck with one of them that never been in the game because I have ran into so many Brazilian Club Help girls here in the States its not funny.


Kid Cisco.[/QUOTE]Too funny I was probably one of them. As the vets already know it's not your p*ssy just your turn and if you think you're special you are delusional you probably were not the first and certainly not the last. It's is all community bunda. Enjoy the run and the company and play along. As someone already said if you are not paying money you are paying in some other form, peace of mind, time / opportunity cost for not finding new bunda, meals etc.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1911154]Hey man,

I had my bachelor party in Floripa many moons ago. An awesome place for a bachelor party. The night life is insane (if you're there between Dec-Mar), and the women are the hottest in the country by a mile (if you're looking for model quality, European looking girls). From a mongering perspective, the options are pretty expensive, but there are loads of reliable websites for escorts in that region, so getting a few girls round to your apartment / condo is pretty easy and lots of fun.

If you're just looking to monger, then Rio or SP are your best bets. Rio's got the beach, so your daytime will be better in Rio than SP, but restaurants and nightlife are better in SP.

Is the south, (Floripa), hot girls run about BRL 300-500 for a couple of hours. In SP prices range from about BRL 200 - 400 (they can run about 1,000 if you want a girl who's actually been in Playboy), and in Rio prices are pretty comparable to SP. There are cheaper options in Rio, like Vila Mimosa, but that may be a bit terrifying for a bachelor party..[/QUOTE]Dude,

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that. I'm definitely going to look into your recommendations. I've been to Colombia and I loved it. The women are beautiful and the all the things that Colombia are known for are great. One of the members traveling with us lived in Brazil for a year but I'm not comfortable asking him these questions. If it's there he will indulge but not a source to ask.

Would you say Floripa is a good place to be during Carnival, or should I avoid Brazil that time of year?

[QUOTE=Safado69;1915303]Man just made the connection. Yes Adriana was first team all MC. My first encounter was not even a session in the terma she straight up insisted on coming to my apartment did not ask for a cent. Every now and then I see her post something thought she met her prince charming.[/QUOTE]She did but is off and on. She wanted to meet up now that she's quit but what for though?

I mean she's a great girl but that post-life doesn't seem that attractive.

Enjoy it and squeeze out of it what we can-I did squeeze all I could during those 4 days but we still stay in touch.

They all want to quit Brazil for the "good life:" in Europe or US with a sucker ass gringo to cover the bills.

Theres not always an angle but just necesssity-poverty- many didn't complete high school.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1916029]They all want to quit Brazil for the "good life:" in Europe or US with a sucker ass gringo to cover the bills.

Theres not always an angle but just necesssity-poverty- many didn't complete high school.[/QUOTE]But even that shit don't work out how they picture in their head. Life is not a fairy tale. Did anyone watch 90 Day Fiance when the girl from Brazil moved with the guy in Florida and they were living with his dad and all three of them were riding in an old El Camino? That show was funny as shit.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1916031]But even that shit don't work out how they picture in their head. Life is not a fairy tale. Did anyone watch 90 Day Fiance when the girl from Brazil moved with the guy in Florida and they were living with his dad and all three of them were riding in an old El Camino? That show was funny as shit.[/QUOTE]Exactly! Its more that they get on our nerves-lack of education, skills-many can't cook cause they used to grabbin any old BS on the road.

We go there and live out our dreams, just got to be carefull when we bring the holiday romance vibe home for a reality check.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1916031]But even that shit don't work out how they picture in their head. Life is not a fairy tale. Did anyone watch 90 Day Fiance when the girl from Brazil moved with the guy in Florida and they were living with his dad and all three of them were riding in an old El Camino? That show was funny as shit.[/QUOTE]I think the one where the chick was riding around in an old El Camino with her loser fiance and her daddy (and with a filthy swimming pool in the back yard) was a Filipina, but point made. There was one that did involve a very attractive Brazilian girl (named Kirlyam) who moved to LA to be with her "principe azul" (something I learned in Colombia actually with the American equivalent being a knight in shining armor). Anyway, she moves to LA and gets into the modeling business and her fiance is all insecure and afraid he will lose her. Then there was the one with the hot Colombiana who moved to Tulsa to get with some wannabe cowboy still living at home with his parents LOL! My favorite one was where the dude moved from someplace in north Africa to get with this broke, fat white chick (he didn't know she was broke). In one episode, he's using her cell phone and gets cut off in the middle of the conversation because she hadn't paid the bill hahahaha! Yeah, that show indeed was funny!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H10zQDe5n8[/URL]

[URL]http://yourslownewsday.com/90-day-fiance-where-are-they-now-answer-hell-on-earth/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheCane;1916076]I think the one where the chick was riding around in an old El Camino with her loser fiance and her daddy (and with a filthy swimming pool in the back yard) was a Filipina, but point made. There was one that did involve a very attractive Brazilian girl (named Kirlyam) who moved to LA to be with her "principe azul" (something I learned in Colombia actually with the American equivalent being a knight in shining armor). Anyway, she moves to LA and gets into the modeling business and her fiance is all insecure and afraid he will lose her. Then there was the one with the hot Colombiana who moved to Tulsa to get with some wannabe cowboy still living at home with his parents LOL! My favorite one was where the dude moved from someplace in north Africa to get with this broke, fat white chick (he didn't know she was broke). In one episode, he's using her cell phone and gets cut off in the middle of the conversation because she hadn't paid the bill hahahaha! Yeah, that show indeed was funny!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H10zQDe5n8[/URL]

[URL]http://yourslownewsday.com/90-day-fiance-where-are-they-now-answer-hell-on-earth/[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL yes Cane, I hope they do another one soon I got some great laughs from some of the couples the one with the smelly nasty pool was a trip selling junk on EBAY for a buck LOL what was funny to me was this white chick with a kid they flew down to Jamaica by herself and met this younger black dude that dick her down for a week or two and than she came back to the states using must of her money to send him to her small town to marry her this only showed me that guys isn't the only ones that go on vacation and find some good sex and want to marry the person.

Kid Cisco.

[QUOTE=Heath;1915679]Dude,

Thank you so much for taking the time to write that. I'm definitely going to look into your recommendations. I've been to Colombia and I loved it. The women are beautiful and the all the things that Colombia are known for are great. One of the members traveling with us lived in Brazil for a year but I'm not comfortable asking him these questions. If it's there he will indulge but not a source to ask.

Would you say Floripa is a good place to be during Carnival, or should I avoid Brazil that time of year?[/QUOTE]If you're into the club scene, Floripa is outstanding during Carnival. David Guetta, Robin Shulz, Tiesto, and other big name DJs play the various nightspots every year (Green Valley and Warung are amongst the best clubs in the world), and the daytime scene at the day clubs in Jurere are really fun as well. Gets expensive though. During Carnival, Floripa is a playground for Brazilian rich kids. But you will not see more hot women anywhere in the world that in Floripa during Carnival. P4P will be pricey, but the quality will be pretty high.

If you've got some cash, Brazil during Carnival is awesome. All the beach destinations go off and as everyone has 5 days off work, it's a total gong show. A life experience, really.

I was looking on a site similar to Craigslist, and someone recently posts they are looking for a hitman. LOL.

[URL]http://anuncios-classificados.net/Viagens/c97-s.aspx[/URL]

The first one is asking for a hitman. Maybe Google translator is wrong on this one. I hope.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1921736]I was looking on a site similar to Craigslist, and someone recently posts they are looking for a hitman. LOL.

[URL]http://anuncios-classificados.net/Viagens/c97-s.aspx[/URL]

The first one is asking for a hitman. Maybe Google translator is wrong on this one. I hope.[/QUOTE]Theyre not wrong. She's looking for a hitman-normal in Brazil allthough advertising for one isn't. If you got favela connects you can organize that for cash.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1921736]I was looking on a site similar to Craigslist, and someone recently posts they are looking for a hitman. LOL.

[URL]http://anuncios-classificados.net/Viagens/c97-s.aspx[/URL]

The first one is asking for a hitman. Maybe Google translator is wrong on this one. I hope.[/QUOTE][B]Matador de aluguel[/B]

Maybe they are looking for a bullfighter?

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1921797][B]Matador de aluguel[/B]

Maybe they are looking for a bullfighter?[/QUOTE]I think FuckAfMedDig is right. They are asking for a hitman. It sure is a dumb way to look for one. Lately Brazil has caught people very quick when people were suspected of being terrorists using online sites.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1921910]I think FuckAfMedDig is right. They are asking for a hitman. It sure is a dumb way to look for one. Lately Brazil has caught people very quick when people were suspected of being terrorists using online sites.[/QUOTE]They are offering 150,000 reais! Damn right it aint a bullfighter or 95% of Brasil would change profession and apply.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1921961]They are offering 150,000 reais! Damn right it aint a bullfighter or 95% of Brasil would change profession and apply.[/QUOTE]My ex girlfriend said it is probably a joke.

I'm looking at a private rental in this area and wondering if any of the more experienced members could advise on the areas safety, restaurants and supermarkets etc?

I have always stayed Posto 4 so this area will be new.

Thanks for any replies.

[QUOTE=Koolkid;1929415]I'm looking at a private rental in this area and wondering if any of the more experienced members could advise on the areas safety, restaurants and supermarkets etc?

I have always stayed Posto 4 so this area will be new.

Thanks for any replies.[/QUOTE]I usually stay in this area and really like it.

In terms of safety it is similar to the rest of Copa. Plenty of Zona Sul supermarkets around and restaurants as well.

Thanks for the infos Junior!

[QUOTE=Junior;1929451]I usually stay in this area and really like it.

In terms of safety it is similar to the rest of Copa. Plenty of Zona Sul supermarkets around and restaurants as well.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know how often a terma or prive girl needs to get checked?

I've been on Brazil a little over a month now, and for the first time me and a girl in Rio fucked without a condom. I won't say her name so there is no trouble for her and so people don't go looking for her for sex with no condom. But it was a girl in 4 x4. She liked the foreplay so much that we just started fucking without a condom. I kept asking her if it was OK if I finish in her and she said it was OK. So I decided I might as well try a couple positions with her. And I asked her 3 more times and paused and stopped to make sure she understood clearly. She said it was OK, so I gave it to her.

I don't think I will give her name out, so please don't ask. I'll give a small description in the Rio thread when I write a report.

I made sure I washed good and pissed afterwards.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1933755]Anyone know how often a terma or prive girl needs to get checked?...[/QUOTE]I think you need to worry about yourself now and I suggest that you get checked. Most likely nothing bad happened, just for the peace of mind.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1933755]Anyone know how often a terma or prive girl needs to get checked?

I've been on Brazil a little over a month now, and for the first time me and a girl in Rio fucked without a condom. I won't say her name so there is no trouble for her and so people don't go looking for her for sex with no condom. But it was a girl in 4 x4. She liked the foreplay so much that we just started fucking without a condom. I kept asking her if it was OK if I finish in her and she said it was OK. So I decided I might as well try a couple positions with her. And I asked her 3 more times and paused and stopped to make sure she understood clearly. She said it was OK, so I gave it to her.

I don't think I will give her name out, so please don't ask. I'll give a small description in the Rio thread when I write a report.

I made sure I washed good and pissed afterwards.[/QUOTE]When you can take the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.

Especially during slow times, the girls do whatever they can to make a guy think he is special, and the only one. Maybe he will like her so much he will take her away from the life. In the least, he will become a regular.

Lover, great foreplay by the way. LMFAO!

In addition to reading this forum, before anyone ventures into the Land of Bunda, they should do a search on List of Brazilian Telenovelas. Watch a few episodes. One of my favorites is Chocolate com Pimenta. Recognize any of the exaggerated behaviors of your favorite garotas? Brazilians grow up on this stuff. These actresses are their mentors and heroines.

Get to know the girls well enough that you hang out with them at their lesbian clubs and you will hear their stories of manipulation (advanced Portuguese required). Nice try, but her girlfriend does it better.

Incidentally, making me laugh offers probably one of your best chances for taking the pebble.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1933755]Anyone know how often a terma or prive girl needs to get checked? [/QUOTE]Rarely if at all. And girls can pay to have fake negative results given if they don't feel like having blood drawn.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1933755]I made sure I washed good and pissed afterwards.[/QUOTE]You cut your chances by about 5% by washing "good" and pissing.

As Senor Exec T stated-- You really think it was your amazing foreplay skills that led her to go bareback? From my last two trips this year I would guess about 25% of girls offered bareback on first encounter. Was it my amazing skills? No. It was her trying to hook me as a repeat customer, or tipper.

Termas girls do get both physical and blood exams. Usually one week physical the next blood.

Almost everyone here thinks that the gringo is the termas owner's market. It is not. The last thing they want is for Brazilians to start posting about getting something from one of their girls on a Brazilian forum.

Also keep in mind that when you are checking her out she is checking you out. Looking for health issues and poor hygiene.

Want to really impress a termas girl? Have fresh breath and be squeaky clean.

The pebble is still in my hand.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1934122]Rarely if at all. And girls can pay to have fake negative results given if they don't feel like having blood drawn.

You cut your chances by about 5% by washing "good" and pissing.

As Senor Exec T stated-- You really think it was your amazing foreplay skills that led her to go bareback? From my last two trips this year I would guess about 25% of girls offered bareback on first encounter. Was it my amazing skills? No. It was her trying to hook me as a repeat customer, or tipper.[/QUOTE]I didn't give her any foreplay. After about 20 minutes of sucking me with 10 styles of blow jobs, she got on top and was rubbing her clit with my dick, but not my dick inside of her. She was about to orgasm then my dick went inside and she didn't stop. After realizing my dick was inside it took no more than a minute before I felt like coming, so I had to let her know. We paused awhile, then she took a condom out of the package and was about to put it on, but I said we will put it on later. She speaks English. So we fucked more and she was about to orgasm again, but so was I, so I had to stop her again and ask if it is OK for me to cum in her, and she said yes. We fucked more, and I paused more, then I asked to change to missionary. I intended to also do doggy, but I didn't last that long. While fucking her missionary I came close to cumming and stopped and asked her again if it was OK to cum in her, and I did this a couple more times. After she said yes many times I went for it and gave her my load.

I don't have some legendary skills. I am humble, but I know I look better than most of the 'members' I have met here. I'm not a senior citizen or obese, or anything of the sort. The guy showing me around Rio said I'm not the same as the other members he has met. Out of 8 days I hung out with the other member 7 days in a row. We happen to have lots in common me and the other guy. I won't mention his member name, unless he wants to chime in.

Also, she knew I was going to Foz Do Iguacu the next day. So, she was not trying to make me a repeat customer. Me and the other member were there pretty early, so I might have had the advantage of being her first fuck of the day. In my month in Brazil I had the feeling maybe 2 other girls might fuck for awhile without condom. But a woman in these places that just say go ahead and cum in me, it is hazardous for her to be doing. So yes, if I stayed in Rio longer I would go do her again, but I was leaving the next day and we both knew it. I might go back before leaving Brazil, but probably not. And once I leave Brazil I will have to apply for a visa, and I don't want to go through that crap.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1934409]Termas girls do get both physical and blood exams. Usually one week physical the next blood.

Almost everyone here thinks that the gringo is the termas owner's market. It is not. The last thing they want is for Brazilians to start posting about getting something from one of their girls on a Brazilian forum.

Also keep in mind that when you are checking her out she is checking you out. Looking for health issues and poor hygiene.

Want to really impress a termas girl? Have fresh breath and be squeaky clean.

The pebble is still in my hand.[/QUOTE]You guys have to be crazy to want to hit a termas girl raw. These Girls do about 3-4 guys per day, especially if she is attractive. I'm usually in the Termas like 4 x 4 so I see it with my own eyes.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1933806]Get to know the girls well enough that you hang out with them at their lesbian clubs and you will hear their stories of manipulation (advanced Portuguese required). Nice try, but her girlfriend does it better.[/QUOTE]Yani, you mean that the WGs in the termas are dykes? That's a turn off.

About manipulation, seems more like they are manipulating themselves into giving god service.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1934767]Yani, you mean that the WGs in the termas are dykes? That's a turn off.

About manipulation, seems more like they are manipulating themselves into giving god service.[/QUOTE]I'd say 50%+ or more are lesbians, either for real or because they're tired of taking dick from sweaty, fat, out of shape, hairy foreigners or brazilian men. One of the hottest girls working in 502 is / was a lesbian, and once I knew that, I got turned off taking her. Patmar, practical man that he is, said I should just do a dupla with her and let her pick the girl so I could watch the show -- and then get her to use a strap-on on the chick's ass while I fucked the puss, or vice versa. Ah, Patmar. Trooper!

I know girls who have "gone back and forth" (I guess that's tecnically bi), or who remain full on lesbians even after. It's all a game, son, so if you like hanging out with them and the sex is good, what's it matter?

-Cartman.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1934409]Termas girls do get both physical and blood exams. Usually one week physical the next blood.

Almost everyone here thinks that the gringo is the termas owner's market. It is not. The last thing they want is for Brazilians to start posting about getting something from one of their girls on a Brazilian forum.

Also keep in mind that when you are checking her out she is checking you out. Looking for health issues and poor hygiene.

Want to really impress a termas girl? Have fresh breath and be squeaky clean.

The pebble is still in my hand.[/QUOTE]Yep, you nailed it.

I would add "practice manscaping" -- maybe that's included in Squeaky Clean, but remove most or all hairy obstruction from the meat and 2 veg.

I've had a recent squeeze tell me she simply won't work at a casa / terma that doesn't do regular exams -- not just for her health, but for when she has to do duplas with other girls. Now granted this is not the same thing as privates or VM or dark-side casa like U24 probably. But I understand her anxiety. I believe all of the well-known termas do regular testing.

Pocket listerine is a lifesaver. When I forget it, I always ask the girl if they can bring some to the room (usually someone has some in their locker room).

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1935032]Yep, you nailed it.

I would add "practice manscaping" -- maybe that's included in Squeaky Clean, but remove most or all hairy obstruction from the meat and 2 veg.

I've had a recent squeeze tell me she simply won't work at a casa / terma that doesn't do regular exams -- not just for her health, but for when she has to do duplas with other girls. Now granted this is not the same thing as privates or VM or dark-side casa like U24 probably. But I understand her anxiety. I believe all of the well-known termas do regular testing.

Pocket listerine is a lifesaver. When I forget it, I always ask the girl if they can bring some to the room (usually someone has some in their locker room).[/QUOTE]Cartman is correct on all counts. I know for a fact that Cancun, MC,Cent,4 x 4 and Solarium have a nurse who comes and everyone gets tested-no one escapes and if they have something at least in 3 of the spots I personally know from many of girls they arent allowed to come back untill theyve been treated. In reality we all know that all this makes little difference due to incubation periods etc-undetected for a period.
I also know they dont get tested for everything(i have seen the clean bill of health from my little 18 year old friend-ex Cancun she got from in there and it only included the most obvious ones.Chlam,Gongon and Syfilis.
Yall fill in the rest.She had to ask for HIV test.........go figure..
-yes I would be VERY surprised if I saw a nurse in VM, U24,U210,Florida Bar,Subsolo,Americas, T31,MV30,T81,119,502 etc unless of course it was a kinky costume party night! I think it might scare all the WGs off if they saw one!
Those chicas run in and out of those places at will and is therefore 100 % unregulated not that it has ever stopped me. I prefer those spots for the girls but I concede the other spots on the surface might be "healthier"! LOL.
Regarding personal grooming and hygiene,for sure it makes a difference but the girls will use a wet-wipe on those they dont feel hit the necessary sanitary levels!kkk.
For sure its better to go in baby fresh and so clean clean with a back,crack and sack wax!ouch!

[QUOTE=ShooBree;1934767]

About manipulation, seems more like they are manipulating themselves into giving god service.[/QUOTE]LOL, we don't care why they're giving good service just as long as they're giving good service, keep the pebble!

Just saw a post on another forum from a guy who literally wrote the guide on Rio. One thing stood out in his post, besides all the pictures of young lovelies. The girls were enjoying themselves.

All too often guys complain about poor performers but they really should put the blame on themselves. If you have the attitude, I am paying you so you should do what I want, then you deserve everything you don't get.

Brazilian women love sex and love having a good time. Put forth a little effort and show them one.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1948941]Just saw a post on another forum from a guy who literally wrote the guide on Rio. One thing stood out in his post, besides all the pictures of young lovelies. The girls were enjoying themselves.

All too often guys complain about poor performers but they really should put the blame on themselves. If you have the attitude, I am paying you so you should do what I want, then you deserve everything you don't get.

Brazilian women love sex and love having a good time. Put forth a little effort and show them one.[/QUOTE]Like Cartman says"treat your working girl like a queen".

If you fuck the shit out of a puta, it definetely makes a difference. If they agree and love. Benefits can range from CIM, freebies, and top service when you come to their terma. BBFS can be another.

They are ordinary people contrary to popular belief.

Seeking information for the behalf of a friend (no, it's not about me). He's been together with a brazilian GF the last three years. They have stayed together a couple of months/year in Brazil and she's been visiting him back home in Europe three times.

She's not a puta, but definitively not a saint. I've have warned him many times that she's a girl with very bad energy who will do everything to milk him like a fat cow. My friend who has about 15 years of experience of Brazil chose to believe that she's an angel. He's been very generous with her all the time. Now she has shown her true intentions and my friend told her he wants to finish their relationship. She got furious.

He owns a nice apartment in Copacabana and some land outside Rio where he's construction a house (both properties bought before he met his GF). Now his ex-GF wants to take his land and apartment. She threatens with Policía Federal and lawyers. Personally I thinks it's mostly empty threats. Empty barrels make the most noise. I think she's pissed of that her milk-cow is leaving her and she wants to take any chances to grab whatever she can.

I never been in the same situation as my friend and I don't know about brazilian laws. They havn't been married or engaged. Maybe brazilian laws would consider them as a steady couple and give her the rights to half of his properties in Brazil?

Anybody who really knows how these things works in Brazil?

[QUOTE=Sperto;1949167]Seeking information for the behalf of a friend (no, it's not about me). He's been together with a brazilian GF the last three years. They have stayed together a couple of months/year in Brazil and she's been visiting him back home in Europe three times.

She's not a puta, but definitively not a saint. I've have warned him many times that she's a girl with very bad energy who will do everything to milk him like a fat cow. My friend who has about 15 years of experience of Brazil chose to believe that she's an angel. He's been very generous with her all the time. Now she has shown her true intentions and my friend told her he wants to finish their relationship. She got furious.

He owns a nice apartment in Copacabana and some land outside Rio where he's construction a house (both properties bought before he met his GF). Now his ex-GF wants to take his land and apartment. She threatens with Polica Federal and lawyers. Personally I thinks it's mostly empty threats. Empty barrels make the most noise. I think she's pissed of that her milk-cow is leaving her and she wants to take any chances to grab whatever she can.

I never been in the same situation as my friend and I don't know about brazilian laws. They havn't been married or engaged. Maybe brazilian laws would consider them as a steady couple and give her the rights to half of his properties in Brazil?

Anybody who really knows how these things works in Brazil?[/QUOTE]Lots of experience and have done the research. Happy to let you know how this work via private message. However, your box is full.

What happened to the real going 5 to 1 against the USD by year's end? Looks like it is going the other way to me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1949277]What happened to the real going 5 to 1 against the USD by year's end? Looks like it is going the other way to me.[/QUOTE]It will be don't worry, just be patient, Brazil is using their reserve to reinforce their money their reserve will be soon over it is just about money strategy, people buy reais because they think reais is good and then dollar will be good and rise at once the stock exchange is not stupid.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1949252]Lots of experience and have done the research. Happy to let you know how this work via private message. However, your box is full.[/QUOTE]Hey man why don't you postyour findings so all can benefit?

To my understanding, she is not entitled to anything other than a dialtone when she calls up!

She didn't live in his apartment full time with her address being there as well (I hope) -if no-he needs to block her number and forget her.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1949393]Hey man why don't you postyour findings so all can benefit?[/QUOTE]
Problem already solved.
Não esquenta sua cabeça.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;1949252]Lots of experience and have done the research. Happy to let you know how this work via private message. However, your box is full.[/QUOTE]Exec, what's the actual time period for common law marriage if you live together? I've heard answers from 6 months to 2 years.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1949500]Exec, what's the actual time period for common law marriage if you live together? I've heard answers from 6 months to 2 years.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.gringoes.com/gringoes-forums/topic/common-law-marriage-time/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sperto;1949418]Problem already solved.
No esquenta sua cabea.[/QUOTE]I wasnt talkin to you sperto-I know you feel the need to comment on everything. Relax.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1949500]Exec, what's the actual time period for common law marriage if you live together? I've heard answers from 6 months to 2 years.[/QUOTE]A brazilian lawyer told me it wasnt always clear cut but what will help those who wish to avoid that situation was to avoid joint bank accounts, avoid having her have address in same place, avoid purchasing in joint names.

Anything indicating plan to live and form future.

The issue here was someone staying with a carioca girl few months a year in his apartment in Rio.

Thats dubious it would stick if she's trying to take him to the cleaners he said.

He also said 2 years had been used-similar to UK but its Brazil. Money talks. Best lawyers vs those with coffee stains on the tie.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1949945]A brazilian lawyer told me it wasnt always clear cut but what will help those who wish to avoid that situation was to avoid joint bank accounts, avoid having her have address in same place, avoid purchasing in joint names.

Anything indicating plan to live and form future.

The issue here was someone staying with a carioca girl few months a year in his apartment in Rio.

Thats dubious it would stick if she's trying to take him to the cleaners he said.

He also said 2 years had been used-similar to UK but its Brazil. Money talks. Best lawyers vs those with coffee stains on the tie.[/QUOTE]Can't believe this is even being talked about. I try to not have any link (email contact, last name, Facebook friends) with these chicas. Leave the fantasy for vacation. IMO only trouble can result if they know too much about you.

Edit: I remember now, the poster is trying to help out his friend in this situation.

[QUOTE=Combo;1949965]Can't believe this is even being talked about. I try to not have any link (email contact, last name, Facebook friends) with these chicas. Leave the fantasy for vacation. IMO only trouble can result if they know too much about you.

Edit: I remember now, the poster is trying to help out his friend in this situation.[/QUOTE]
The question about common-law marriage is actually not irrelevant. "The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women." Not meaning only prostitutes but also regular girls. I agree that there is no need giving out any personal information to GPs. If you session with a GP you can be totally anonymous and exchange nothing except body fluids. For those who also enjoy f*cking regular girls or having regular girls, in Brazil, as GFs it's impossible not to exchange personal information.

I got good advice by PM and now I have put my friend in contact with a lawyer so he will solve the problem.

After three long years, I finally made it back to Brazil. It felt like my first trip all over again and didn't disappoint. After my first session, I realized why Brazil was, is and will be my number 1 mongering destination. This trip I batted 100%. There were no duds, mechanical, or lackadaisical performance. First time that has happened to me. Usually at least one so so performance but not this time. Yes, Brazil isn't cheap, but oh so worth it. Since it felt like my first trip some of this report will be geared towards any rookies thinking about going to Brazil. This time around, I went to Rio, Foz do Iguacu, Porto Alegre, Floripa, then back to Rio. First time in Rio, I stayed at the Prodigy Santos Dumont which is right next to the domestic airport and shopping mall. I picked this hotel because all my mongering was going to be in centro and I only stayed two night before leaving for Foz. From the domestic airport. Really convenient for both especially with the vlt train starting at the airport. To get the pre pago card for the vlt, there are machines at every station with attendents there to help you. For my intial card, I needed help and the guy was very helpful. Side note, my see / see didn't work on the machine and even though it says you can recharge are $50 or are $100, the machine will not take money over are#20.00, so make sure you have some smaller bills with you. Maybe it's just me, but centro at night felt safer with the vlt running until midnight. There seemed to be more people in centro at night instead of the creepy desolate feeling I had before. From the int. Airport, I took the bus to Santos Dumont airport for are $16.00. Even though the hotel is next door to the airport, it's still about a two to three block walk. The last time I took the bus from the airport, I took the 2145 because that's what I was told. This time as I was walking towards the bus stop, I saw the bus that said Barra on it. So I asked the people at the stop when the 2145 to Santos Dumont will arrive, they said this bus goes to Santos dumont. Before getting on, I asked the bus driver and he confirmed he would be stopping at Santos Dumont. Last time, they had us put out suitcase in the undercarriage, this time he said to bring in on board. Anyways, this bus went direct from the gig to Santos Dumont. The 2145 stopped at the rodavia and many stops on Rio Branco before getting to the airport. Now that the traffic on Rio Branco is diverted, I don't know where the stops for the 2145 is now. All I know is this bus was way faster to get to the domestic airport and it worked out great for me. I will write about the sessions I had in the proper treads. For the last stop in Rio, I stayed at the Windsor Guanabarra which is perfect for walking around centro. Because I didn't have any contacts from my trips from years ago, I wasn't expecting to do any overnights.

As usual I have read some amazing reviews about Brazil. Thanks so much for the commentary.

I have been living basically in San Diego / Tijuana now for almost 2 years. I've settled in and am now looking to travel again.

I've never been to Brazil and would like to go experience the food music and women.

My budget for one month would be $1,400 for housing then around $125 a day for food drinks and pfp. Would I be able to eat out and get laid every other day on that budget? Would I be wasting my time in Brazil with that budget? Can you recommend an area that would be more suited to this budget?

I am well aware that the DR and Colombia would offer me a better deal but I've already been there. I also have a genuine interest in Brazilian Culture.

Plus living in Tijuana has the benefit of me getting laid 4 times a week.

Thanks for the replies.

As far as your living budget $1,400 that's cutting it close, that's about $46 a night you could find a apartment for about $50 a night depending on what time of the year. But you would have to handle the laundry yourself (towels, bedding) as that would cost you more to have the apartment company to handle it.

$125 a day should be enough, you said p4 p every other day. Since most of the actions are in the brothels that will run you around $100 to $130,but if you are there a month after a week you should have pulled a couple of GFE's and shouldn't be paying much.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1960986]As usual I have read some amazing reviews about Brazil. Thanks so much for the commentary.

I have been living basically in San Diego / Tijuana now for almost 2 years. I've settled in and am now looking to travel again.

I've never been to Brazil and would like to go experience the food music and women.

My budget for one month would be $1,400 for housing then around $125 a day for food drinks and pfp. Would I be able to eat out and get laid every other day on that budget? Would I be wasting my time in Brazil with that budget? Can you recommend an area that would be more suited to this budget?

I am well aware that the DR and Colombia would offer me a better deal but I've already been there. I also have a genuine interest in Brazilian Culture.

Plus living in Tijuana has the benefit of me getting laid 4 times a week.

Thanks for the replies.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rio6160;1960996]As far as your living budget $1,400 that's cutting it close, that's about $46 a night you could find a apartment for about $50 a night depending on what time of the year. But you would have to handle the laundry yourself (towels, bedding) as that would cost you more to have the apartment company to handle it.

$125 a day should be enough, you said p4 p every other day. Since most of the actions are in the brothels that will run you around $100 to $130,but if you are there a month after a week you should have pulled a couple of GFE's and shouldn't be paying much.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Would the $50 per night minimum relate to both Rio and Sao Paulo? Is one location cheaper than the other?

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1960986]As usual I have read some amazing reviews about Brazil. Thanks so much for the commentary.

I have been living basically in San Diego / Tijuana now for almost 2 years. I've settled in and am now looking to travel again.

I've never been to Brazil and would like to go experience the food music and women.

My budget for one month would be $1,400 for housing then around $125 a day for food drinks and pfp. Would I be able to eat out and get laid every other day on that budget? Would I be wasting my time in Brazil with that budget? Can you recommend an area that would be more suited to this budget?

I am well aware that the DR and Colombia would offer me a better deal but I've already been there. I also have a genuine interest in Brazilian Culture.

Plus living in Tijuana has the benefit of me getting laid 4 times a week.

Thanks for the replies.[/QUOTE]You can find studios in Copacabana for 2000 2500 reais a month (600 700 dollars) or apartment for 900 dollars. 125 a day depends on your activity in Rio.

[QUOTE=Komo753;1961035]You can find studios in Copacabana for 2000 2500 reais a month (600 700 dollars) or apartment for 900 dollars. 125 a day depends on your activity in Rio.[/QUOTE]
Actually you can find apartments in Copacabana area at a price of USD200/month, if you don't mind staying in a favela.

[QUOTE=Artisttyp;1961007]Thanks. Would the $50 per night minimum relate to both Rio and Sao Paulo? Is one location cheaper than the other?[/QUOTE]I recommend that you rent a studio from Airbnb in Moema, you will be close to the CLínicas.

OK currency gurus. The "Trump effect" slammed the Brazil Real along with other emerging markets, dropping its value vs USD from 3. 24 to 3. 4+ in a 24 HR period. There was a slight recovery last week to 3. 38, but last week the Fed also announced it was "likely" to raise US interest rates (finally). So the question: is the Fed rate hike already priced in, or if it happens will the BRL get slammed again.

FYI several outlets reporting that Brasil is on its way out of the Crisis. Hard to tell.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1964311]OK currency gurus. The "Trump effect" slammed the Brazil Real along with other emerging markets, dropping its value vs USD from 3. 24 to 3. 4+ in a 24 HR period. There was a slight recovery last week to 3. 38, but last week the Fed also announced it was "likely" to raise US interest rates (finally). So the question: is the Fed rate hike already priced in, or if it happens will the BRL get slammed again.

FYI several outlets reporting that Brasil is on its way out of the Crisis. Hard to tell.[/QUOTE]Wish that drop would reflect on the flight prices. They have gone up and stayed up since the summer. In the spring, I paid one of the lowest I've ever paid for my Rio ticket. The only flights available in the price range I'm willing to pay are screwed up with long and unnecessary layovers, hence I opted to go somewhere else this month and have not regretted it at all so far. Still love my Rio though and will keep going back again whenever I can.

[QUOTE=Ee2002;1964367]Wish that drop would reflect on the flight prices. They have gone up and stayed up since the summer. In the spring, I paid one of the lowest I've ever paid for my Rio ticket. The only flights available in the price range I'm willing to pay are screwed up with long and unnecessary layovers, hence I opted to go somewhere else this month and have not regretted it at all so far. Still love my Rio though and will keep going back again whenever I can.[/QUOTE]Ee2002,

You are right about airline prices in the spring, got R/ t from Bahamas to Rio $730 jump at that to make my first trip.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1964311]OK currency gurus. The "Trump effect" slammed the Brazil Real along with other emerging markets, dropping its value vs USD from 3. 24 to 3. 4+ in a 24 HR period. There was a slight recovery last week to 3. 38, but last week the Fed also announced it was "likely" to raise US interest rates (finally). So the question: is the Fed rate hike already priced in, or if it happens will the BRL get slammed again.

FYI several outlets reporting that Brasil is on its way out of the Crisis. Hard to tell.[/QUOTE]I don't think the interest rate is priced in, but it doesn't really matter. The Brazilian government is in the business of currency swaps, thus interfering with the free market. I forget the exact number, but between buying new swaps and letting reverse swaps expire, they essentially removed about $R7 billion from the market. Currency swaps are buying, or promising to buy, USD. Considering Brazil has over $USD 100 billion in reserves, they can play this game for a while.

What will hurt them is investors selling Brazilian bonds and moving their money elsewhere. Such a move impacts USD reserves and the ability to defend the Real. I think currency markets are nearly impossible to predict. So many variables, including commodity prices, potential bank insolvencies, and a myriad of unknowns (at least to me) such as the amount of currency trading by algorithm and how many trades are based on market sentiment and technical analysis.

Shorter version: Brazil is manipulating the Real, so all bets are off. Unless you want to play for long-tail events or use options for swaps and straddles and bet on volatility. Maybe short Brazilian bonds?

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1964311]OK currency gurus. The "Trump effect" slammed the Brazil Real along with other emerging markets, dropping its value vs USD from 3. 24 to 3. 4+ in a 24 HR period. There was a slight recovery last week to 3. 38, but last week the Fed also announced it was "likely" to raise US interest rates (finally). So the question: is the Fed rate hike already priced in, or if it happens will the BRL get slammed again.

FYI several outlets reporting that Brasil is on its way out of the Crisis. Hard to tell.[/QUOTE]This morning's Valor Economico led with a story about how the 278 publicly traded companies in Brazil saw their inflation adjusted revenues fall by 10% year over year through the first 3 quarters. There does not appear to be a catalyst for a rebound outside of rally in commodities which will be slow to occur given how fucked China is at the moment. The Temer government, while market friendly, hasn't actually been able to pass much legislation short of changing the rules for pre-salt oil participation which no longer require Petrobras participation. Personally, I think the BRL will appreciate in the short term (next few weeks) to 3. 25-3. 3 against the USD before beginning a gradual decline to closer to 4 through 2017. If Caixa or Banco do Brasil end up needing a bailout, and I can't see how they won't, perceived risk in Brazil's financial sector could push the BRL further down. However, if I was actually good at making these types of predictions, I'd wealthier than I am now.

The "Trump" effect on currencies is a result of the general level of uncertainty about his pending policies. Whenever there is uncertainty, there is usually a rush to safe havens like the USD. Weirdly, gold is down, which I'm struggling to understand.

I'd say there has been an expecation of a Fed rate hike for at least the last 6 months. However, I think the expectation is for pretty gradual tightening. In the event Trump passes huge infrastructure spending bills which pressure inflation, the rates may move up faster than the market anticipates. This would hammer the BRL.

End of the day, the world is a mess and smart people have looked stupid for most of 2016, so the best thing to do is bury your face in some tasty vagina (preferably Brazilian) and stop worrying.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1964904]T
End of the day, the world is a mess and smart people have looked stupid for most of 2016, so the best thing to do is bury your face in some tasty vagina (preferably Brazilian) and stop worrying.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the comments.

I'm not "worrying" -- I'm just trying to figure out if I send a bunch of BRL (like, BRL 50 K+) back to the USA now, buying USD at something like $3. 38-3. 48, or if I wait and see if the BRL gets back into the $3. 20-3. 25 area before year-end. Fundamentally it might only make a difference of $500 USD or so, so maybe it doesn't matter. Market timing is a *****.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1965104]Thanks for the comments.

I'm not "worrying" -- I'm just trying to figure out if I send a bunch of BRL (like, BRL 50 K+) back to the USA now, buying USD at something like $3. 38-3. 48, or if I wait and see if the BRL gets back into the $3. 20-3. 25 area before year-end. Fundamentally it might only make a difference of $500 USD or so, so maybe it doesn't matter. Market timing is a *****.[/QUOTE]If you're buying USD at 3. 38 or 3. 48, you're getting screwed. I use a Sao Paulo based bank called Confidence, a subsidiary of Travelex. They are amazingly unbureaucratic. Pay about 3 points over published rate, so at 3. 33, I get USD at 3. 36. If you want the contact details, I can send you my bankers details. PM me if interested. Takes about a week to open an account with them, but worth it for the ease of FX transactions in any currency.

[QUOTE=BackDoorD;1965421]If you're buying USD at 3. 38 or 3. 48, you're getting screwed. I use a Sao Paulo based bank called Confidence, a subsidiary of Travelex. They are amazingly unbureaucratic. Pay about 3 points over published rate, so at 3. 33, I get USD at 3. 36. If you want the contact details, I can send you my bankers details. PM me if interested. Takes about a week to open an account with them, but worth it for the ease of FX transactions in any currency.[/QUOTE]Please send me details via PM, thanks. I just tried through their site and they offered a rate of BRL 3. 525 (to buy 15,000 USD. So something's off vs. What you said above. Maybe I need to talk to them.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1964311]OK currency gurus. The "Trump effect" slammed the Brazil Real along with other emerging markets, dropping its value vs USD from 3. 24 to 3. 4+ in a 24 HR period. There was a slight recovery last week to 3. 38, but last week the Fed also announced it was "likely" to raise US interest rates (finally). So the question: is the Fed rate hike already priced in, or if it happens will the BRL get slammed again.[/QUOTE]Usually, widely watched market events (such as FED policy changes) follow the 'buy the rumour, sell the news' rule. That is, a given market will begin moving in a certain direction just on the expectation of an event, and when the event is finally announced, the market will show little reaction, or even reverse direction. This means the Fed rate hike is probably already priced in, especially since Fed officials have 'telegraphed' it to the market in advance with their many public comments. The only surprise would be if they (1) announced a rate hike larger than. 25 basis points, or (2) if they announced NO rate hike. A larger-than-expected hike would send the USD flying higher and slam the Euro along with the BRL (a decision of no rate hike would probably only happen if a stock market crash occurred between now and mid December). Once the rate hike is finally announced, currency markets will begin looking more at economic reports, world stock prices, commodity prices, and the Eurozone for it's influences.

Hi everybody.

I have the opportunity to take vacation between roughly Dec 27th and January 7th.

I would like to know if people would recommend travelling to Brazil for hobby at this time (Sao Paolo and / or Rio?). Or if that would be a waste of time and money.

I've never been to Brazil, but by RTFF, I feel I'm more into "organized stuff" (clinicas, boates, termas), than just bringing a bar girl to the hotel.

Thanks in advance for any input.

You guys take care.

[QUOTE=ReefLostCause;1969137]Hi everybody.

I have the opportunity to take vacation between roughly Dec 27th and January 7th.

I would like to know if people would recommend travelling to Brazil for hobby at this time (Sao Paolo and / or Rio?). Or if that would be a waste of time and money.

I've never been to Brazil, but by RTFF, I feel I'm more into "organized stuff" (clinicas, boates, termas), than just bringing a bar girl to the hotel.

Thanks in advance for any input.

You guys take care.[/QUOTE],

new years eve night in Rio will be packed in Copa. for fireworks on the beach.

[QUOTE=Reef LostCause;1969137]Hi everybody.

I have the opportunity to take vacation between roughly Dec 27th and January 7th.

I would like to know if people would recommend travelling to Brazil for hobby at this time (Sao Paolo and / or Rio?). Or if that would be a waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]
I would chose Rio instead of São Paulo because of the New Year celebration. Hotel or apartment will be expensive. On New Years Eve and the 1:st of January the privês are normally closed. This year that's not so bad as it happens on a weekend, meaning you don't loose any "mongering days". Of course there will be less girls as many girls choose to take some days off and travel around New Year.

The New Years Eve in Copacabana is a very memorable experience, which I never miss. :)

Hey guys! I have been out of the network for a while, but planning a 2 to 3 eeek trip to Brazil. I plan to go at the end of June or early July. I was wondering what is the best city in Brazil to monger. I have only been to Rio, and Fortaleza. I want to Rio in the early 2000's and back then Brazil was heaven due to prices. I have read the threads and it seems that a lot has changed. I am fluent in Spanish and my Portuguese is intermediate. I can hold a conversation and read Portuguese extremely well. I would like to get some opinions on the best place in terms of price, and service. Thanks. I owe you guys a report when I return.

Recently someone who has never contributed anything to this forum used the lame excuse that those who contribute get criticized for providing erroneous information. Whereas the real concern should be that the regular contributors lose interest in the forum because all they do is correct misinformation from others.

For example, other than the great beach video of a thief, there really has not been any reports of New Year's in Rio. Did the poor economy and ongoing corruption investigations damper the celebration? Was tourism down? How was the entertainment and fireworks?

I was in Buzios for Christmas and Rio / Copacabana for New Years eve this year. It was not a mongering trip, it was a family holiday trip, I took 3 family members of mine on this trip all expenses paid, lucky them. Only because of time constraints and I didn't want to leave them alone I only had one mongering session in the Eden Spa that was magnificent with Bruna I believe, they presented 4 girls this one kissed me on the lips and gave some tongue which sealed the deal, she did not disappoint.

Buzios had a lot of families but there were a good amount of single girls mixed in from Brazil and Argentina, with the right language skills and game one could have scored something while on holiday, unfortunately I was not in a position to.

Copacabana was packed, my hotel was 100% full and again many families with single girls mixed in that I'm sure were looking for some fun, many tourists from Argentina, I did not hear much English being spoken the whole trip, mostly Spanish and Portuguese. On New Years eve I had reservations at Don Camillo on Ave Atlantica in Copacabana, $250 dollars plus a person which included Lobster and Champagne and live music, it was a nice experience. Other venues were charging like 800 or 900 dollars per person like the Marriott for roof top party, I would imagine the fireworks would look awesome from this vantage point. At midnight the whole restaurant went out to the street / Orla to experience the fireworks display. The fireworks display was awesome although cut short from 20 minutes to 12 minutes due to the economic crisis and even the Christmas tree in Lagoa was not there this year for same reason and it has been there for some 15 years or so. I did not see any of the entertainment provided on the beach as I was too far away and didn't want to get mixed up in the crowd of some 2 million people with a $2,000 plus camera in my hand, everybody was warning us about theft.

I also discovered a new Chuascaria that has been there for over 50 years The Chuascaria Palace. It was a new experience for me, I might have been here before years ago but it was old school style just like Mariu's was over 30 years ago and even Porcao which is closed now, I really enjoyed it.

This was my first time doing New Years eve in Copacabana and it was very exciting for me even though this year will be the 37th year since I first stepped foot in Rio and discovered my calling LOL. I took a lot of pictures of Buzios and Copacabana but unfortunately the photos I have of the fireworks are only videos. Attached are 2 photos taken from my hotel balcony at about 9 pm with all the barges in place to shoot off the fireworks and 1 from Chuascaria palace which is next to the Copacabana Palace, also mixed in some Ipanema and Buzios photos.

Unfortunately my hotel was right in front of HO beach and I sat there twice and fortunately I did not see one HO (remember family was with me), there were girls there and it was packed as they were running out of chairs and umbrellas but I didn't think they were HO's.

After all the expense and playing tour guide I owe myself a mongering trip soon.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1983130]I also discovered a new Chuascaria that has been there for over 50 years The Chuascaria Palace. It was a new experience for me, I might have been here before years ago but it was old school style just like Mariu's was over 30 years ago and even Porcao which is closed now, I really enjoyed it.[/QUOTE]Great report Rio Bob!

Churrascaria Palace is one of the GF's favorite places because they have a great selection of seafood as well as terrific BBQ pork ribs.

I am a member of their discount club and receive regular emails on their specials. If I remember correctly they emailed me a temporary card then mailed me a permanent plastic one. If you do not have a Rio address, you should be able to just give them your name or membership number which I have done when I forgot my card.

[URL]http://churrascariapalace.com.br/en/clube-palace/[/URL]

Great place for a date because it is not too large and they often have a very talented piano player in the evenings.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1983130]

I also discovered a new Chuascaria that has been there for over 50 years The Chuascaria Palace. It was a new experience for me, I might have been here before years ago but it was old school style just like Mariu's was over 30 years ago and even Porcao which is closed now, I really enjoyed it.
.[/QUOTE]Churrascaria Palace is in Copacabana on Rodolfo Dantas between Atlantica and Nossa Senhora, facing the side of Copacabana Palace. I've always thought it to be the best of the 2nd-tier Churrascarias -- that is, if you want to go to one and don't want to visit Fogo de Chao in Botafogo. Haven't been there for over a year though. About 5 minute walk at most from Metro Cardeal Arcoverde.

There is apparently an argentinan-style steakhouse called Tragga operating in Botafogo. It's on my list to check out. Some people have told me it's great, others (the Leblon crowd) have downplayed it.

-Cartman.

If anyone of you are adventurous and find yourself in Zona Norte, go here to eat. Great meat, lamb pasteis, sucos etc.

Near Nova America Shopping.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1983157]Churrascaria Palace is in Copacabana on Rodolfo Dantas between Atlantica and Nossa Senhora, facing the side of Copacabana Palace. I've always thought it to be the best of the 2nd-tier Churrascarias -- that is, if you want to go to one and don't want to visit Fogo de Chao in Botafogo. Haven't been there for over a year though. About 5 minute walk at most from Metro Cardeal Arcoverde.

There is apparently an argentinan-style steakhouse called Tragga operating in Botafogo. It's on my list to check out. Some people have told me it's great, others (the Leblon crowd) have downplayed it.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]Tragga is a bit hit and miss. I've been a couple of times; first was great, second was so-so. My go to, always outstanding steakhouse in Rio is CT Boucherie. They do a rodizio of side dishes so you don't have to choose a single side dish or pay for multiples. The 900 gram florentina for 2 hungry people is fantastic. The new Rubaiyat is good too. Beside the jockey club. Amazing setting.

I still like Fogo de Chao, always good meat; however, I cannot get over the fact there are more of them in the USA than in Brazil. California itself has more Fogo de Chaos than all of Brazil! Seems to be more of an American brand now!

SS.

So anyway, there is this new "Brazilian" porn star named Gina Valentina showing up in vids in USA.

[URL]https://twitter.com/gvalentinaxxx[/URL]

[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/gina-valentina[/URL]

I was perusing a scene of hers in "Don't Break Me" and I have some questions.

1 - Seems to speak American English with no accent.

2 - Despite saying initially "Hee-Oh" De Janeiro when asked where she was from (and then changing it to USA pronunciation as Rio when she had to say it again), seems to not speak Portuguese with a Brazilian accent.

3 - As she was saying things in Portuguese after the director asked her to, she kept saying "me pega" (which I usually do not hear during fucking, only in terms of hunting at clubs etc).

4 - Every time she said "Quero que voce. " (do something) such as "Quero que voce me foda" e "Quero que voce me pega" she used standard conjugation and NOT subjunctive, which in this case (being normal words) every BR girl would conjuage as "me fode" or "me pegue".

5 - Repeatedly said "me foda" instead of BR "fode!" or "fode caralho!" -- again, just something you don't hear. It seems like someone trying an English-language translation of "Fuck me" without knowing they usually just say "fode!

So my question is, is she really Brazilian? Or did she grow up in the USA and maybe learn PT from her parents (badly)? Or is she totally faking?

Discuss.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986742]So anyway, there is this new "Brazilian" porn star named Gina Valentina showing up in vids in USA.

[URL]https://twitter.com/gvalentinaxxx[/URL]

[URL]http://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/gina-valentina[/URL]

I was perusing a scene of hers in "Don't Break Me" and I have some questions.

1 - Seems to speak American English with no accent.

2 - Despite saying initially "Hee-Oh" De Janeiro when asked where she was from (and then changing it to USA pronunciation as Rio when she had to say it again), seems to not speak Portuguese with a Brazilian accent.

3 - As she was saying things in Portuguese after the director asked her to, she kept saying "me pega" (which I usually do not hear during fucking, only in terms of hunting at clubs etc).

4 - Every time she said "Quero que voce. " (do something) such as "Quero que voce me foda" e "Quero que voce me pega" she used standard conjugation and NOT subjunctive, which in this case (being normal words) every BR girl would conjuage as "me fode" or "me pegue".

5 - Repeatedly said "me foda" instead of BR "fode!" or "fode caralho!" -- again, just something you don't hear. It seems like someone trying an English-language translation of "Fuck me" without knowing they usually just say "fode!

So my question is, is she really Brazilian? Or did she grow up in the USA and maybe learn PT from her parents (badly)? Or is she totally faking?

Discuss.[/QUOTE]In one of her interviews I found, she says she was born in Brazil, however, grew up in Miami.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1986801]In one of her interviews I found, she says she was born in Brazil, however, grew up in Miami.[/QUOTE]That would explain it. Either she really doesn't know portuguese or what she learned from her parents is horrible. Weird that she would have such a shitty accent though if she learned it at home from Mom & Dad.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986742]S

4 - Every time she said "Quero que voce. " (do something) such as "Quero que voce me foda" e "Quero que voce me pega" she used standard conjugation and NOT subjunctive, which in this case (being normal words) every BR girl would conjuage as "me fode" or "me pegue"..[/QUOTE]I wrote this too fast before my coffe. I meant to say I think she conjugated it as "me fode" and didn't put the subjunctive (foda). That's what I get for typing too fast. For some reason I switched them around. Need more coffee when posting in AM.

Anyway, mystery seems solved.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986839]I wrote this too fast before my coffe. I meant to say I think she conjugated it as "me fode" and didn't put the subjunctive (foda). That's what I get for typing too fast. For some reason I switched them around. Need more coffee when posting in AM.

Anyway, mystery seems solved.[/QUOTE]Every girl I've been with in Brazil has said, "me fode", in bed.

Never "me foda".

Doesn't even sound right.

Whether it's perfect português or not, I really don't care, LOL.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986839]I wrote this too fast before my coffe. I meant to say I think she conjugated it as "me fode" and didn't put the subjunctive (foda). That's what I get for typing too fast. For some reason I switched them around. Need more coffee when posting in AM.

Anyway, mystery seems solved.[/QUOTE]I asked a Brazilian friend, who speaks advanced English and knows grammatical rules of Portuguese, about why Brazilians never use the imperativo tense correctly. She said most likely they are uneducated in grammar or they think it's too strong (like an order or command) to use.

On a side note, Cartman you have good taste in porn. Gina Valentina is a pretty sweet chick. I first saw her on Reality Kings site. I wish there were more English speaking Brazilian chicks in porn. Paola Rey was amazing when she was around. There's only Abby Lee Brazil as the other Brazilian porn chick. Awesome body but kind of an ugly face. She must think she herself looks like that fatty dance mom Abby Lee Miller, otherwise why would she chose a name like "Abby Lee".

[QUOTE=Balboa;1986855]Every girl I've been with in Brazil has said, "me fode", in bed.

Never "me foda".

Doesn't even sound right.

Whether it's perfect Portuguese or not, I really don't care, LOL.[/QUOTE]

For the reasons cited by AZN, as he notes, most Brazilians don't like to use Imperative (command) - which is what "me foda!" is, and likely why nobody says it. I always jokingly say I think CIM is a great way to use imperative ("Abra a boca!") but that's because I amuse myself. The classic imperative is "Faca!" (with the C with a tail, or c-cedilla, that the forum won't let me type, for some reason) for "you do it!" (now), which has some regular use, particularly by put-upon parents and some bosses.

However, normally the construct of "I want you to do (x)" calls for subjunctive, either in present (where subjunctive is generally the same conjugation as imperative) or "polite conditional" -- and in these contexts, you're more likely to hear it.

1 - Quero que voce abra a boca (I want you to open your mouth) - present.

2 - Eu gostaria que voce abrisse a boca (I would like you to open your mouth) - polite.

3 - Eu queria que voce abrisse a boca (I wanted you to open your mouth) - implied "but you didn't" <-- the Cartman may actually have used this after a BR girl cum-doged and let the boys land on her tits instead of where they should have gone, just sayin'.

(note: in these cases, the "que" is a helpful reminder of the likely subjuctive trigger).

It's in this context that her saying "Quero que voce me pega" (which should have been "pegue") rubbed me the wrong way (while she was being rubbed the right way) and made me question her PT, among the other things cited.

At least that's how I see it being used. Which is a roundabout way of saying, yes, your girl is likely to say "me fode!" but if she says "Quero que voce me fode!" then you have hit a basic conversational PT gaffe that even the Campo Grande crowd should know. Minas girls would never make this mistake LOL. Your girl saying "Queria que voce me fodesse" is highly unlikely on many fronts, not the least being that you are unlikely not to have done so ahaha.

Cartman.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986875]For the reasons cited by AZN, as he notes, most Brazilians don't like to use Imperative (command) - which is what "me foda!" is, and likely why nobody says it. I always jokingly say I think CIM is a great way to use imperative ("Abra a boca!") but that's because I amuse myself. The classic imperative is "Faca!" (with the C with a tail, or c-cedilla, that the forum won't let me type, for some reason) for "you do it!" (now), which has some regular use, particularly by put-upon parents and some bosses.

However, normally the construct of "I want you to do (x)" calls for subjunctive, either in present (where subjunctive is generally the same conjugation as imperative) or "polite conditional" -- and in these contexts, you're more likely to hear it.

1 - Quero que voce abra a boca (I want you to open your mouth) - present.

2 - Eu gostaria que voce abrisse a boca (I would like you to open your mouth) - polite.

3 - Eu queria que voce abrisse a boca (I wanted you to open your mouth) - implied "but you didn't" <-- the Cartman may actually have used this after a BR girl cum-doged and let the boys land on her tits instead of where they should have gone, just sayin'.

(note: in these cases, the "que" is a helpful reminder of the likely subjuctive trigger).

It's in this context that her saying "Quero que voce me pega" (which should have been "pegue") rubbed me the wrong way (while she was being rubbed the right way) and made me question her PT, among the other things cited.

At least that's how I see it being used. Which is a roundabout way of saying, yes, your girl is likely to say "me fode!" but if she says "Quero que voce me fode!" then you have hit a basic conversational PT gaffe that even the Campo Grande crowd should know. Minas girls would never make this mistake LOL. Your girl saying "Queria que voce me fodesse" is highly unlikely on many fronts, not the least being that you are unlikely not to have done so ahaha.

Cartman.[/QUOTE]My Portuguese teacher told me that if you use the form of "verb + object + to-infinitive", then the infinitive always has to be the present tense subjunctive.

1 - Quero que voce abra a sua boca (I want you to open your mouth).

2 - Eu gostaria que voce abra a sua boca (I would like you to open your mouth).

3 - Eu queria que voce abra a sua boca (I wanted you to open your mouth).

So I would think "Quero que voce me foda" (I want you to fuck me) or "Eu queria que voce me foda" (I wanted you to fuck me) would be the only grammatically correct way to say it. Of course, all I ever hear from the GDP's are "oiiiii, oiiieeeee, oiiieeee, me fode, me fode, vai vai vai!

Anyway, I don't know which form of the subjunctive is perfectly correct in those examples, but I do know that most Brazilians speak Portuguese incorrectly anyway. How can they not, there are like 13 verb tenses that exist! Ha.

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1987073]My Portuguese teacher told me that if you use the form of "verb + object + to-infinitive", then the infinitive always has to be the present tense subjunctive.

1 - Quero que voce abra a sua boca (I want you to open your mouth).

2 - Eu gostaria que voce abra a sua boca (I would like you to open your mouth).

3 - Eu queria que voce abra a sua boca (I wanted you to open your mouth).

So I would think "Quero que voce me foda" (I want you to fuck me) or "Eu queria que voce me foda" (I wanted you to fuck me) would be the only grammatically correct way to say it. Of course, all I ever hear from the GDP's are "oiiiii, oiiieeeee, oiiieeee, me fode, me fode, vai vai vai!

Anyway, I don't know which form of the subjunctive is perfectly correct in those examples, but I do know that most Brazilians speak Portuguese incorrectly anyway. How can they not, there are like 13 verb tenses that exist! Ha.[/QUOTE]IMHO only, I believe you are correct on #1 and #2, however Cartman got it right on #3:

Eu queria que você abrisse a boca. (Since queria is past tense).

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1986875]
3 - Eu queria que voce abrisse a boca (I wanted you to open your mouth) - implied "but you didn't" <.[/QUOTE]After further reflection, there's a good chance that "Eu queria que voce abrisse a boca" would still be interpreted as "polite" present -- just like the "gostaria" phrase.

To truly show past, I would go with "Eu queria que voce tivesse aberto* a boca" -- that's really more the "I wish you *had* done (x)" (tivesse).

"Eu queria que voce tivesse me ligado" is more the "I wanted you to have called me" (but you didn't) and runs no risk of being interpreted as polite present. Fica a dica.

*[URL]http://portuguesemforma.********.com.br/2015/12/aberto-ou-abrido.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=AznSafado;1987073]My Portuguese teacher told me that if you use the form of "verb + object + to-infinitive", then the infinitive always has to be the present tense subjunctive.

1 - Quero que voce abra a sua boca (I want you to open your mouth).

2 - Eu gostaria que voce abra a sua boca (I would like you to open your mouth).

3 - Eu queria que voce abra a sua boca (I wanted you to open your mouth).

So I would think "Quero que voce me foda" (I want you to fuck me) or "Eu queria que voce me foda" (I wanted you to fuck me) would be the only grammatically correct way to say it. Of course, all I ever hear from the GDP's are "oiiiii, oiiieeeee, oiiieeee, me fode, me fode, vai vai vai!

Anyway, I don't know which form of the subjunctive is perfectly correct in those examples, but I do know that most Brazilians speak Portuguese incorrectly anyway. How can they not, there are like 13 verb tenses that exist! Ha.[/QUOTE]Almost 100% certain that when you throw gostaria into the polite phrase, you must conjugate the request verb with past subjunctive. Even checked this with my prof today. Eu gostaria que voce abrisse. Eu gostaria que voce me ligasse. Etc.

As usual Cartman is correct.

In my experience like has already been said very few Brazilians speak correctly. It's just too difficult to say even if they know the correct way to say it. Most of the time they are using abbreviated versions of words so they can speak faster.

I only see the correct forms in written communications. Possibly high society circles speak correctly but since I'm never in their company I don't know.

[QUOTE=HoustonPlayer;1987195]
In my experience like has already been said very few Brazilians speak correctly. It's just too difficult to say even if they know the correct way to say it. Most of the time they are using abbreviated versions of words so they can speak faster.
[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/aZ0_HjjR63E[/URL]

"Mo' carcasa show tu!

I had to watch this like 10 x before I figured out WTF he is saying the whole time.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1987191]Almost 100% certain that when you throw gostaria into the polite phrase, you must conjugate the request verb with past subjunctive. Even checked this with my prof today. Eu gostaria que voce abrisse. Eu gostaria que voce me ligasse. Etc.[/QUOTE]I'm actually sitting with my professora now.

She says "Eu gostaria que você abra... " (Present tense).

And "Eu queria que você abrisse... " (Past tense).

[QUOTE=Balboa;1987313]I'm actually sitting with my professora now.

She says "Eu gostaria que voc abra... " (Present tense).

And "Eu queria que voc abrisse... " (Past tense).[/QUOTE]Interesting stuff. I believe Cartman is correct, though you are likely to only hear that in class or written on paper. And in the heat of the moment if you include some form of the verb abrir and the word boca you should be good to go. It can depend where they are from as well. I spent time in the Northeast (where I learned my Portuguese) and those kinds of things were never spoken correctly. It is funny when I start talking in Portuguese to the girls in São Paulo. They can't believe the American dude has an accent from the Nordeste. It makes them laugh.

Good stuff gents. Always something of interest here.

[QUOTE=Troyster;1987318]Interesting stuff. I believe Cartman is correct,

Good stuff gents. Always something of interest here.[/QUOTE]Yes sir, I stand corrected, Cartman was right!

I must have been in a daze yesterday, LOL.

When I spoke with my friend / professora again today, she confirmed Cartman's conjugations.

I must have heard wrong yesterday.

Always a continuous education, obrigado!

Abraços.

Sometimes the misinformation on this forum is amusing, other times it is just wrong.

For people who know what goes on in the real world of Brazil it can be annoying to constantly correct misinformation.

Knowing what goes on means that you can tell jokes in Portuguese and travel comfortably in various social circles.

As far as what happened to the all the girls, well, a couple of things. There was a female president and some of the girls became inspired. They thought why not me?

Many started taking their education seriously which has resulted in a free ride for college. A lot studied English and computers. Brazil started opening up to women and especially those of color moving up the ladder. In the past, you never saw anyone of color working as even a waiter in the nicer restaurants in Rio. There also is a practice called Banca whereby a Brazilian young lady is taken care of by a wealthy older man. This is not limited to Ipanema and Leblon, it goes on in the poorer neighborhoods and even the favelas.

Also, there was a rise in country pride from hosting the Olympics, World Cup and finally doing something about corruption.

So, the truth is all the hot girls did not just disappear. And, even though the economy is in the toilet, they won't suddenly reappear because someone opens a new club.

[QUOTE=Diegoff61;1990928]As a part of me wants to say it would be nearly impossible, if at all, to match Discoteca Help in its heyday, I will just say "to get a taste of the past" may prove to be a shadow of what it was like, a shell if you will.

[URL]www.helpdisco.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is as close as we're going to get, a glimpse into the past, lets hope the new Help is at least half as good:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93J0-uNW-U[/URL]

BRL strengthening like crazy, apparently due to (a) Central Bank reporting lowering inflation rate estimates (and targeting 9% SELIC for YE 2017), (b) investors apparently getting over their aversion of emerging markets and believing BR is close to its low-point or already bouncing back, and (c) I assume some Trump effect on the USD.

What's funny is all the domestic BR talk is about how bad the crisis is, how many jobs have been lost (RJ lost the most of any state or city, even SP, apparently), how bad the economy and crime is. And yet we see the BRL gaining on the USD all the way to USD 3. 15 today I beleive? Damn! Holy fucking shit the heyday of BRL 3. 9-4. 25 is way behind us now (only a year ago!) and now at this rate it will go below BRL 3. 00 !!

Anyone really know what's going on?

This directly impacts the price of pussy, so of massive concern LOL.

-Cartman.

This will be my first trip to Brazil. Any info on live sex on stage.

Thanks.

For those playing the home game, you might not realize that the latest pop / funk sensation to have swept Brazil is this catchy little ditty. It's refrain loosely translates as "My Dick Loves You" (there is a censored version that says "O Pai Te Ama" which is roughly God Loves You or The Father Loves You).

If you're here for a visit, just stop and smile at the girl who's blowing you and say "meu pau te ama" -- guaranteed laugh.

So for you to understand what gets even upper-class women gyrating their booties like GDPs, here you go:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZIrw7gGoCk[/URL]

Eu preciso te-[t-e-r]*.

Meu fechamento eh voce, mozo.

Eu ando preciso mais beber.

E nem fumar maconha.

Que a sua presena me deu onda.

O seu sorriso me the onda.

Voc sentando, mozo, me deu onda.

Que vontade de fuder, garota.

Eu gosto de voce, fazer o que?

Meu pau te ama.

Que vontade de fuder, garota.

Eu gosto de voce, fazer o que?

* forum autocorrects the portuguese infinitve verb "to have" to "another site" (lol). t-e-r
** pretty sure "meu fechamento eh voce" is the Brazilian portuguese equivalent of Jerry Mcguire's "You complete me."

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1991617]If you're here for a visit, just stop and smile at the girl who's blowing you and say "meu pau te ama" -- guaranteed laugh.[/QUOTE]Since one of my favorites at Centaurus (photos attached) would always tell me how much she was in love with my dick, this would have been an appropriate response!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;1991372]BRL strengthening like crazy, apparently due to (a) Central Bank reporting lowering inflation rate estimates (and targeting 9% SELIC for YE 2017), (b) investors apparently getting over their aversion of emerging markets and believing BR is close to its low-point or already bouncing back, and (c) I assume some Trump effect on the USD.

What's funny is all the domestic BR talk is about how bad the crisis is, how many jobs have been lost (RJ lost the most of any state or city, even SP, apparently), how bad the economy and crime is. And yet we see the BRL gaining on the USD all the way to USD 3. 15 today I beleive? Damn! Holy fucking shit the heyday of BRL 3. 9-4. 25 is way behind us now (only a year ago!) and now at this rate it will go below BRL 3. 00 !!

Anyone really know what's going on?

This directly impacts the price of pussy, so of massive concern LOL.

-Cartman.[/QUOTE]The national bank only released their reserve to strengthen reais, Brazil is still in Crisis, they are using their reserve, their reserve is not permanent, many Brazilians know that's why they are talking about crisis because nothing changed strong reais is temporary that's why many investors don't dare to invest at the moment, if Europe, USA, Canada or Australia also release their reserve, their money will be stronger.

A bit off-topic, but maybe somebody find it useful? If you get tired of the beach and mongering you maybe want to do some other activities. One great physical activity which is the best way to get to know Rio is biking (which also keeps you fit for the girls). As mentioned before there are great ciclovias Copacabana-Urca-Botafogo-Flamengo-Lagoa-Ipanema and Leblon.

Yesterday I tried other ciclovias I strongly recommend. Copacabana-Ipanema-Leblon-São Conrado-Barra da Tijuca-Reserva da Barra-Recreio-Prainha-Abrico-Grumari. Roundtrip it's 85 km. The scenery is absolutely fantastic! All the way to Recreio it's ciclovia and mainly flat ground. After Recreio you have to bike on the estrada, there are lots of up-hill and down-hill. No need to bring water etc as there are quiosques along the way.

Side-note 1: Ciclovia Tim Maia had an accident in April last year when a part fell down in the ocean. It's repaired, but the ciclovia is still closed by the Defesa Civil. As Brazil is Brazil it will propably take ages before they open it again. There are no guards but I assume you are not allowed to use the ciclovia, but some people still do it. The ciclovia is closed every now and then by some huge concrete blocks where you have to climb over with the bike. I prefer using the ciclovia instead of making suicide biking among the cars on Av Niemeyer.
Side-note 2: Be aware of the lunatics when you bike in Rio. Pedestrian cross the ciclovia without looking to the sides. Many bikers you'll meet behave like fools. They wobble a lot when they check their mobile phones, suddenly change bike lane, loose control when they see some nice ass and don't know how to behave when riding a bike. The worst are those who use the orange Itaú rent-a-bike, they ride bikes worse than a five-year-old.

[QUOTE=Hotrod10;1991483]This will be my first trip to Brazil. Any info on live sex on stage.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I know many many many years ago there used to be a club called Club Munchen that had live sex shows even Club Erotika back in the 80's had some type of show but today I don't think this is going on anymore. If you want to see people have sex hire a GDP for the night and take her to a swing club, even if you don't want to participate you can watch if that's your thing.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1993053]

Yesterday I tried other ciclovias I strongly recommend. Copacabana-Ipanema-Leblon-So Conrado-Barra da Tijuca-Reserva da Barra-Recreio-Prainha-Abrico-Grumari. Roundtrip it's 85 km. The scenery is absolutely fantastic! All the way to Recreio it's ciclovia and mainly flat ground. After Recreio you have to bike on the estrada, there are lots of up-hill and down-hill. No need to bring water etc as there are quiosques along the way.

[/QUOTE]Yes this is a nice addition to Rio, I didn't bike but I walked from Copacabana to the Sheraton and used this path part of the way, it's pretty good.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1993136]Yes this is a nice addition to Rio, I didn't bike but I walked from Copacabana to the Sheraton and used this path part of the way, it's pretty good.[/QUOTE]That's more or less the only part of the ciclovia that's open, up to Sheraton.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1993053]Ciclovia Tim Maia had an accident in April last year when a part fell down in the ocean. .[/QUOTE]And it killed a few people. Nothing here is built to first-world standards. They hadn't secured the deck to the columns. Corruption seems to have been involved.

Yes, good caution on pedestrians. My friend's wife has permanent leg damage due to a pedestrian stepping backwards into her bike in the bike path while admiring the ocean, and her getting thrown and breaking her leg in several places.

I will be splitting time in Sao Paulo and Rio during Carnaval. Will the termas be open during that time?

[QUOTE=LoveBite;1993938]Thanks Komo. By the way did you like Buzios when you visited?[/QUOTE]I was just in Buzios recently and have been there several times before in past years. Like others said it's a great place to bring a girl you want to spend some time with. When I was there during high season I saw plenty of single girls on vacation from Brazil and other countries in South America especially Argentina, you may even see the occasional tourist from Europe. There are many clubs and bars in Buzios where all these girls go to late at night and party, one such club is called Privilege which attracts hundreds of girls all hours of the night. Your chances of meeting girls in Buzios either on the beach or in the clubs are just as good as anyplace in the world depending on you, if you can pick up a girl and close the deal in the states then you could probably do the same here if you have the language skills. You also will probably come across the occasional GDP in these bars or on the beaches, in recent years I have met girls in clubs offering sex in exchange for money, it's definitely there but not as big as Rio is, you just have to be at the right place at the right time.

You can rent a dune buggy in Buzios to drive around to the various beaches because there are about 22 of them, cost's about $100 a day. There are many little poussadas scattered around Buzios, either you stay in one close to or on a particular beach or you stay in or near centro which is Rua das Pedras so you can be close to all the night life. If I was a single guy in Buzios I would probably stay close to centro and travel to a beach during the day but be close to the bars at night. Better to go in the high season if you go alone when tourists are there otherwise in slow season may be more couples.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1993994]I was just in Buzios recently and have been there several times before in past years. Like others said it's a great place to bring a girl you want to spend some time with. When I was there during high season I saw plenty of single girls on vacation from Brazil and other countries in South America especially Argentina, you may even see the occasional tourist from Europe. There are many clubs and bars in Buzios where all these girls go to late at night and party, one such club is called Privilege which attracts hundreds of girls all hours of the night. Your chances of meeting girls in Buzios either on the beach or in the clubs are just as good as anyplace in the world depending on you, if you can pick up a girl and close the deal in the states then you could probably do the same here if you have the language skills. You also will probably come across the occasional GDP in these bars or on the beaches, in recent years I have met girls in clubs offering sex in exchange for money, it's definitely there but not as big as Rio is, you just have to be at the right place at the right time.

You can rent a dune buggy in Buzios to drive around to the various beaches because there are about 22 of them, cost's about $100 a day. There are many little poussadas scattered around Buzios, either you stay in one close to or on a particular beach or you stay in or near centro which is Rua das Pedras so you can be close to all the night life. If I was a single guy in Buzios I would probably stay close to centro and travel to a beach during the day but be close to the bars at night. Better to go in the high season if you go alone when tourists are there otherwise in slow season may be more couples.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much. What a great way to introduce Buzios to this forum. I will definitely keep in mind the places you mentioned. Take care.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1993994]I was just in Buzios recently and have been there several times before in past years. Like others said it's a great place to bring a girl you want to spend some time with.[/QUOTE]Actually the best option would be to contact a legitimate, first class travel, apartment rental agency, tour guide and transportation service that really knows Rio and the surrounding areas. Like others here, I highly recommend.

[URL]http://www.copaapartments.com/index.html.[/URL] Eric, the owner, vacations in Buzios, so he can tell you all about it. Although he is Brazilian, he speaks and writes English better than most Americans. Service is great and prices have always been fair.

You really don't want to chance your limited vacation time on some fly-by-night tour guide operator.

[QUOTE=Patoine1;1993458]I will be splitting time in Sao Paulo and Rio during Carnaval. Will the termas be open during that time?[/QUOTE]I can not tell you about that.

But I just avoid Brazil during the carnival unless you like to watch some shows on the street and take some pictures for your family.

I have 2 US debit cards that I use to withdraw reais at ATMs in Brazil. I have always withdrawn from either HSBC or Bradesco. Now that HSBC is gone, I was using Bradesco regularly. My cards are on the Plus network which Bradesco supports. The cards were working fine until a week ago. Now whenever I go to Bradesco botj cards (issued by the same US bank) generate a "read error" on insert. I called my bank they said they are not blocking me, so it is the local ATM that is stopping me. My bank agreed that it would be very odd for both cards to simultaneously have read failures (I. E. Problem with the mag strip or chip which the ATM reads). I then tried the cards at Santander and had no problem at all. Other than being unhappy B/ C Santander charges 20 reais fee.

Has anyone had any similar problem recently with Bradesco?

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1994829]I have 2 US debit cards that I use to withdraw reais at ATMs in Brazil. I have always withdrawn from either HSBC or Bradesco. Now that HSBC is gone, I was using Bradesco regularly. My cards are on the Plus network which Bradesco supports. The cards were working fine until a week ago. Now whenever I go to Bradesco botj cards (issued by the same US bank) generate a "read error" on insert. I called my bank they said they are not blocking me, so it is the local ATM that is stopping me. My bank agreed that it would be very odd for both cards to simultaneously have read failures (I. E. Problem with the mag strip or chip which the ATM reads). I then tried the cards at Santander and had no problem at all. Other than being unhappy B/ C Santander charges 20 reais fee.

Has anyone had any similar problem recently with Bradesco?[/QUOTE]I just had the same problem with Bradesco in SP, 2 days ago, at an ATM that I've used frequently over the years.

Went back to my hotel and my same card worked fine.

Sounds like a Bradesco system problem.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1994829]Has anyone had any similar problem recently with Bradesco?[/QUOTE]I also had problems with Bradesco on NS de Copa between Xavier and ML a couple of weeks ago. One day it worked, then a couple of days later it would not.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1994829]I have 2 US debit cards that I use to withdraw reais at ATMs in Brazil. I have always withdrawn from either HSBC or Bradesco. Now that HSBC is gone, I was using Bradesco regularly. My cards are on the Plus network which Bradesco supports. The cards were working fine until a week ago. Now whenever I go to Bradesco botj cards (issued by the same US bank) generate a "read error" on insert. I called my bank they said they are not blocking me, so it is the local ATM that is stopping me. My bank agreed that it would be very odd for both cards to simultaneously have read failures (I. E. Problem with the mag strip or chip which the ATM reads). I then tried the cards at Santander and had no problem at all. Other than being unhappy B/ C Santander charges 20 reais fee.

Has anyone had any similar problem recently with Bradesco?[/QUOTE]I had the same issue last week, I thought the problem was from my card, I tried some shops and 24 hour ATM, my card worked fine I paid 24 reais fee. The problem is from the bank.

I tried Bradesco bank in Rio Branco.

[QUOTE=Balboa;1995300]I just had the same problem with Bradesco in SP, 2 days ago, at an ATM that I've used frequently over the years.

Went back to my hotel and my same card worked fine.

Sounds like a Bradesco system problem.[/QUOTE]I think it's a internal system problem particular to Bradesco. Too many gringos withdrawing their cash and they're getting jealous. Thinking its the beginning of an anti-Gringo backlash similar to what Trump is doing to Muslims in the USA. It's already started in Argentina!

Case in point, I'm African-American, I own my own consulting firm in Sao Paulo, the Polo outlet in Republica was having a 50% off sale on everything. Of course I go there, immediately I'm followed through the whole place by security. Became very annoying as I was trying to shop. After about 15 minutes told the girl following me to call the floor manager on her headset.

Asked the manager why the girl was following me. The manager talks to the girl who was following me, her answer to my question was, "I thought it was very suspicious him coming in here, blacks don't usually wear brand name clothing. " WTF? And get this, the security chick was black! When I paid for my things and checked out, they gave me a gift voucher worth Brl $50,00.

Brasil, it's not just a job, it's an adventure!

Following up on the Bradesco q below, but slightly OT.

Does anyone know if the ATMs read the mag strip OR the chip on foreign bank cards? I ask be / see if they read the chip, then it might be proactively defensive to intentionally disable the mag strip which is more easily cloned.

[QUOTE=Rovnak;1995352]Following up on the Bradesco q below, but slightly OT.

Does anyone know if the ATMs read the mag strip OR the chip on foreign bank cards? I ask be / see if they read the chip, then it might be proactively defensive to intentionally disable the mag strip which is more easily cloned.[/QUOTE]I'm on Cirrus they read the chip.

You can all go to Banco do Brasil, there is no fee to withdraw money, the problem is after 4 pm you can withdraw 500 reais maximum.

Bradesco has a problem with their system.

BR Central Bank announces reduction of SELIC rate even further to 12.25% and yet the Real continues to gain ground against the dollar (reaching BRL 3. 05 today), in part driven by booming BOVESPA. BR is rapidly becoming too expensive again!

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2002786]BR Central Bank announces reduction of SELIC rate even further to 12.25% and yet the Real continues to gain ground against the dollar (reaching BRL 3. 05 today), in part driven by booming BOVESPA. BR is rapidly becoming too expensive again![/QUOTE]If it continues, Rio de Janeiro will be more expensive than Tokyo.

Question on BBBJ and CIM quality in Brazil, especially Rio: how does Brazil / Rio compare with other countries when it comes to the quality and skill level of women at these? Mexico, Philippines, etc. Are pretty poor at this. So hoping Brazil will deliver.

I recently watched a debate over this and hope someone here can provide some clarification. An Argentine patron at Shenanigans received a caipirinha made with lemons that he was not expecting and I overheard the discussion. I really think they were messing with him but they were really convincing in their apology and ignorance. After some explaining I think they figured it out. Anyone else run into this?

Lime (green citrus fruit used to make caipirinhas) = limao.

Lemon (yellow citrus fruit) = limao too! Or.

Lemon = limao siciliano.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2011098]I
Lime (green citrus fruit used to make caipirinhas) = limao.

Lemon (yellow citrus fruit) = limao too! Or.

Lemon = limao siciliano.[/QUOTE]I haven't figured this out totally after a long time living here. I thik you are correct on (1) and (3). Ref (2), in Brasil I have not heard as "limao" -- sometimes in PT from portugual they call Limao "lima" which may cause confusion. Even Wikipedia (PT) is not a huge help: [URL]https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lim%C3%A3o[/URL].

As I have found (via the web):

A Lime is called Limão

A Lemon is called Limão Siciliano.

A key lime is called Lima da Pérsia or just Lima (I guess you call this key lime).

And there are many others like Limão Galero, Limão Capeta (Very very sour!), Limão Cravo and dozens of variations of oranges and tangerines.

[QUOTE=Safado69;2011098]I recently watched a debate over this and hope someone here can provide some clarification. An Argentine patron at Shenanigans received a caipirinha made with lemons that he was not expecting and I overheard the discussion. I really think they were messing with him but they were really convincing in their apology and ignorance. After some explaining I think they figured it out. Anyone else run into this?

Lime (green citrus fruit used to make caipirinhas) = limao.

Lemon (yellow citrus fruit) = limao too! Or.

Lemon = limao siciliano.[/QUOTE]
A good question.

The short answer is
lime: limão
lemon: limão siciliano

Every Sunday I would buy limao at the street market. On occasion one or two would make it two or three weeks. Instead of drying out, they turned yellow. Got me thinking that the limao is a green lemon, unlike the limes found in North America.

[QUOTE=MSClive;2009779]Question on BBBJ and CIM quality in Brazil, especially Rio: how does Brazil / Rio compare with other countries when it comes to the quality and skill level of women at these? Mexico, Philippines, etc. Are pretty poor at this. So hoping Brazil will deliver.[/QUOTE]I've never been to Philippines or Thailand I don't know those countries I am not really attracted to southern asian women I can tell you the skills are very good most girls do BBBJ not difficult to find girls that do CIM in Brazil I can tell you the skills are way better than mexico and most countries I ve been to you can find all kinds of woman in Brazil (all shapes and all races).

Reading the forum makes me remember the some of the lost posters that maked the brazil thread rock and rolling. Christopherd, Ibiza007, Full Throttle, El Austriaco etc etc etc. I'm grateful we still have of the oldtimers left. Nobodyof those mentioned and nobody forgotten.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2014362]Reading the forum makes me remember the some of the lost posters that maked the brazil thread rock and rolling. Christopherd, Ibiza007, Full Throttle, El Austriaco etc etc etc. I'm grateful we still have of the oldtimers left. Nobodyof those mentioned and nobody forgotten.[/QUOTE]Definitely not forgotten. I had the pleasure of doing a few downtown spots with Christopherd in the pre Sight and Sound Museum era. Full Throttle is a buddy of mine. He is still around, just not on ISG.

Shameless moneygrabs lately by the Temer government to try to fill some massive annual budget holes. This week they wiped out 5+ year old tax breaks meant to incentivize industries like IT, raising payroll tax costs by nearly 16%. They only industries they didn't touch, who had the breaks, were big ones with more political clout.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/jornal-nacional/noticia/2017/03/fim-da-desoneracao-da-folha-de-pagamento-atinge-40-mil-empresas.html[/URL]

Word on the street is to expect tax raises across the board, including the IOF monetary transaction tax. Why the Real isn't getting more hammered in the market is beyond me.

[QUOTE=EricCartman;2016886]Shameless moneygrabs lately by the Temer government to try to fill some massive annual budget holes. This week they wiped out 5+ year old tax breaks meant to incentivize industries like IT, raising payroll tax costs by nearly 16%. They only industries they didn't touch, who had the breaks, were big ones with more political clout.

[URL]http://g1.globo.com/jornal-nacional/noticia/2017/03/fim-da-desoneracao-da-folha-de-pagamento-atinge-40-mil-empresas.html[/URL]

Why the Real isn't getting more hammered in the market is beyond me.[/QUOTE]Well from what I read, Temer is trying to balance the budget, So that is good news for investors so they can pour money into the economy, Bad News for Main Street.

An odd question...

Yesterday I was organizing a cabinet with albums with x-rated photos from Brazil, starting 1991. X-rated photos counted in 4 figures. Very rarely I look at these old albums, but what I noted yesterday was how hairy the brazilian girls were in the early nineties. Not just a small Adolf mustache, but quite a large beard. Not rarely the girls walked on the beach with tiny bikinis with the hair sticking out. Today most brazilian girls just have a tiny bush or are totally shaved. So I'm wondering about what year it became fashion for the brazilian women to shave their pussies? I guess I have to ask some veterans like RioBob.

Sidenote 1: Astonishing, when looking at beach photos from the early nineities, to notize how way more fit the brazilian girls used to be.
Sidenote 2: How lovely to see how the bodies used to be all natural without plastic tits and butt injections.

Btw, Feliz Pascoa!

[QUOTE=Sperto;2022070]So I'm wondering about what year it became fashion for the brazilian women to shave their pussies? I guess I have to ask some veterans like RioBob.[/QUOTE]Thumb through some porno movies and magazines from the same time period. There you shall find the answer.

I'm thinking the trend had to start in the 70's, maybe with the popularization of the Brazilian string bikini (from Wikipedia):

It is claimed that Brazilian fashion model Rose de Primallio created the first string bikini when she had to sew one with insufficient fabric available to her for a photoshoot. The first formal presentation of string bikini was done by Glen Tororich, a public relations agent, and his wife Brandi Perret-DuJon, a fashion model, for the opening of LE Petite Centre, a shopping area in the French Quarter of the New Orleans, Louisiana in 1974. Inspired by a picture of a Rio de Janeiro fashion model in an issue of Women's Wear Daily, they had local fashion designer Lapin create a string bikini for the event. Models recruited by talent agent Peter Dasigner presented it by removing fur coats by Alberto Lemon on stage. The presentation was covered by local television stations and the New Orleans Times-Picayune newspaper, and was sent out via the wire news services of the Associated Press and United Press International.

By the way, TC is ready to drop some serious bank for the one in the pink hahahaha!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2022080]Thumb through some porno movies and magazines from the same time period. There you shall find the answer.[/QUOTE]With all respect, Mr Enternational, rarely I seek info from fellow forum members, I guess I what expecting a better answer.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2022092]With all respect, Mr Enternational, rarely I seek info from fellow forum members, I guess I what expecting a better answer.[/QUOTE]What could be a better answer than the truth?

"In the 90's, the porn industry started booming, thanks to the rise of the internet in popular culture, and as a result, finding two people fucking became easy. Young men and women no longer had to look through their parents stuff to find old copies of Playboy lying around. Sex became extremely accessible, and as a result [b]pubic hair trends depicted in porn began having an influence on mainstream society. Women began to mirror what they saw in porn, and men began to encourage their girlfriends to follow suit: and thus the Bush began to slowly but surely fade away[/b]. Trimming turned to landing strips which turned to women deciding to go fully bald down there. "

"The longer she was in the industry, however, that trend began to change. The landing strip died out and led to a period where women were completely shaven. During this time, drake recalls that the only women who were growing full-bushes were for fetish films. In the early 2000's, Bush was considered a fetish category, for a niche market of men who were comfortable with seeing "mature" women on camera. There was also, of course, the media frenzy over the popularity of Brazilians, and what that meant for women. "

[URL]https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/the-prickly-history-of-pubes-in-porn[/URL]

Like I was saying, if you go find the year where the trend started to change to hairless in porn then you will have your answer.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2022070]An odd question...

So I'm wondering about what year it became fashion for the brazilian women to shave their pussies? I guess I have to ask some veterans like RioBob.
[/QUOTE]In 2004 I was with a regular girl and I was astonished that she had such a big Bush it seemed very odd so for sure it was way before this. I even remember one girl told me few years before that that I should shave my hair in that area so I eventually did give it a little trim as suggested.

It might have happened during the late 80's to mid 90's because when I went to Rio in the 80's I don't remember the girls being much different then other girls I knew in the states and for sure they weren't shaving.

Probably during the time when Fiscal was the King of Ho beach!

Thanks gentlemen for your help. I looked through albums this morning and it seems like the trend in Brazil was:
1991: bush
1994: landingstrip
1998: shaved

While we're waiting for Rio to be great again lets take a look at when the Real was about 4 to 1 to the dollar and T / A was in full tilt. Some good ones, some bad ones but for the most part the B team.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySQJppdZLE[/URL]

[QUOTE=Rio Bob;2022514]While we're waiting for Rio to be great again lets take a look at when the Real was about 4 to 1 to the dollar and T / A was in full tilt. Some good ones, some bad ones but for the most part the B team.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySQJppdZLE[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. Fun to watch. From the mid-nineties?
Help and T&A had some gems, but the large majority were no beauty queens.

[QUOTE=Sperto;2022540]Thanks for sharing. Fun to watch. From the mid-nineties?
Help and T&A had some gems, but the large majority were no beauty queens.[/QUOTE]This was 2001 , if you look closely at time 12:03 to about 12:16 you can see a young Bobby blame it on Rio.

[QUOTE=RioBob;2022514]Some good ones, some bad ones but for the most part the B team.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySQJppdZLE[/URL][/QUOTE]But it sure did "help" set the scene didn't it? Let's make Rio great again!

[QUOTE=RioBob;2022514]While we're waiting for Rio to be great again lets take a look at when the Real was about 4 to 1 to the dollar and T / A was in full tilt. Some good ones, some bad ones but for the most part the B team.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dySQJppdZLE[/URL][/QUOTE]Rio Bob,

YES! Good ole T / A I lost count how many times I would hang out at a table eating something lite sitting at the right (angle) waiting out front getting a good view seeing what type of chicks were going inside seeing if it was worth me going in or not BUT most of the time I would call over a Terma girl that had a bad day looking to pick up some money back then it went without saying that once she went back to your place spending and sleeping overnight were understood without charging extra (I THINK now things have change so much over the years with guys coming there for the 1st time that are use to going to places were girls charge for the hour) . BEFORE you could get overnight wake up with a blowjob and hit it again and then have her cook breakfast for you. And you could give her taxi fare or take her number for a later hook up or take or see her at the beach.

So much have change over the years BUT I am glad to have been able to enjoy those times.

Kid Cisco.

Back in the Help-era I always used to stay one block from Help, in Copacabana. Not because I was a Help-fan, but because of my connections that gave me nice apartments to half the price what others payed. About 10 years ago I started to stay in one of the favelas in Zona Sul, because of a GF I met.

Staying in a favela in Zona Sul is great. The rent is cheap, the people living there are nice, you have great bars, excellent botecos (that won lots of prices), bailes do funk and there are tons of the hottest girls you can imagine. Not to forget, you get a lot of exercize going up and down those hills. About the girl part which probably sounds fine, there are shitloads of girls from XX to YY years flirting with you. There are not many blue-eyed blond gringos on the favelas, btw not many colored gringos neither, so you get a lot of attention. If I would try to f*ck around in the favela my GF would know it in no time. Also, you never know if the flirty girl is the GF of an armed bandit. Meaning, in the favela you have to behave.

Many gringos might have the idea that the people living in the favelas are scum, thieves and muggers. They do exist, but the large majority are normal workers. Hardworking families living their lifes. I've been to the majority of the Zona Sul favelas and everywhere it's the same thing. Communities on the hills. People works, party, have churrascos and dance on the rooftops. Everything is cool.

I've never had any ideas of a romantic life in the favela, "living close to the poor people". I stayed their because of practical reasons.

Most Zona Sul faves are invaded by the UPP police. This might sound great. The police moves in, build police stations, Light starts to organize (and chargingh) the electricity and everythings become tidy and cozy. Ordem e progresso, my ass. The police normally chase away the bandits from the lower parts of the favela, but they still stay in the favelas hiding in the woods. The bandits might be CV, PCP, TCP, ADA etc etc. In general the bandits control the favela. They sell their drugs (BTW I don't use drugs and I do despise people who use drugs) and keep order in the favela. With the UPP police present things becomes more complicated. Normally they find a balance where the police do some routines just to keep the image of control and let the bandits continue their business.

Things becomes more complicated when there are two gangs of bandits involved in the same favela. E.g Comando vermelho and Terceiro Comando Puro wanting to take control of the same favela with the UPP in the middle. What happens is that the gangs stake out their territories. The police are heavily armed, but they are payed to stay away from the gang wars. Meaning that one gang invade the other gangs territory to kill some people. This is very annoying! Lots of heavily armed young guys who don't know how to use arms starts to shoot and use grenades. I've spent countless nights where the shootings started and I had to grab my GF and roll down in cover on the floor. Not pleasant at all. The brick walls are like swiss cheese.

Furthermore it's very annoying to everyday have to pass a bunch of very young armed cocky bandits standing watch in the alleys. They know you and normally behave properly, but many times you get to urge to beat up some those low-lifes even though they might only half of your size. Also, it's not very nice stepping out of the doorway and have a nervous police patrol pointing a dozen of guns at your head.

IMO, the only way to get order in the favelas is to stop the corruption of the police and send BOPE into the favelas and kill of all the bandits. Amen!