FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen]Hohoho,

Well it's a long time until March you really think too much in advance. I've just decided to go Berlin for the Christmas marked and Artemis next weekend

Easy decision: Go to Artemis, big, nice, clean club, girls are nude, less Rom. Girls, great wellness facilities including fitness center, open late, enjoy Berlin in the daytime and fuck at Artemis in the evening. Public trans. Is very good in Berlin- no need to waste money on taxis.

Bring a fat wallet or the fun at Artemis stops quite soon.

Flying from UK can be done with low cost flights for less than 1 fuck at Artemis.[/QUOTE]

I just booked LHR to TXL for $350 USD during the last week of December. For logistical reasons, I was forced to use LHR. For cheaper options you need to use other airports.

[QUOTE=Macca 74]

I thought that would be the end of my activity for the day as I had a meeting at 8pm and needed to head back to the city. I was sitting on one of the sofas in the downstairs bar when a petite slim blonde came over. Fair enough, I'm always up for a chat, but I considered that I was done. She introduced herself as Danielle from Austria and appeared to be about 25 years old. Anyway, we were talking for ages and she never once suggested going to the room. Numerous subjects were covered from famous Austrians (I couldn't come up with many, apart from the obvious one) to which nationalities she liked and disliked. Japanese were in favour, apparently. I asked if this was because of the rumour “small dick, come quick”, but she laughingly denied this.
After about 40 minutes talking, my will power diminished and I just had to go to the room with her. I had a really memorable session with Danielle and she even came and sat with me a little later when I was eating. Sweet!
What a fantastic girl. Great to chat to and a wicked sense of humour. The fact she was naked, apart from black stockings and high heels, surely proves there's a higher being out there somewhere.
Danielle also mentioned that a guy is writing a book about Artemis. Apparently, he goes to the room with the lady, buys a bottle of champagne, and just talks to the girl and writes. No physical contact at all. Does anyone know anything about this? Fleetingly, I thought it might have been AM, but having read his marvellous reports, it certainly doesn't sound like his modus operandi!

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Macca74, nice FR.

To the other monger maestros, the Danielle that Macca74 describes is exactly my type of girl. Any of you guys know if there are other girls at Artemis that fit that profile of young, slim, fair and friendly? If you can, you will be doing me a great favor. I plan on going there with that list in my hand :-). Thank you.

I promise to follow up with field reports (like I always do)

-V

V
Petite blondes, recommended
Marketa Czech
Rafaela Rom
Antonia Rom
Siena Bul
Kaschia Pol

Several tall blondes who tend to be optiflicks: Jane, Pia, Mia. YMMV
Apart from that, you may be out of luck.
BSK

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Macca74, nice FR.

To the other monger maestros, the Danielle that Macca74 describes is exactly my type of girl. Any of you guys know if there are other girls at Artemis that fit that profile of young, slim, fair and friendly? If you can, you will be doing me a great favor. I plan on going there with that list in my hand :-). Thank you.

I promise to follow up with field reports (like I always do)

-V[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Vitrea]
To the other monger maestros, the Danielle that Macca74 describes is exactly my type of girl. Any of you guys know if there are other girls at Artemis that fit that profile of young, slim, fair and friendly? If you can, you will be doing me a great favor. I plan on going there with that list in my hand :-). Thank you.

I promise to follow up with field reports (like I always do)
[/QUOTE]

It depends when you're going V. Vivian and Daniella both said they are heading off for a few weeks over Christmas.

Siana from Bulgaria is slim, blonde and a great performer.

This place is great for recommendations and reports, but there is always a turnover of staff and new kids on the block.

I was a bit unsure of whether I really was making a good decision going to Artemis for another Sunday, as things can be so quiet, but I didn't really have any options lined up so I checked out of my hotel and took my bags with me to the station. When I arrived at Artemis there was a large police van outside, so I waited a little while (it was very cold!) until it had left before entering (fortunately only a few minutes).

Once inside I had breakfast and then, at about 12 noon, surveyed the scene. Pickings were poor so I read my book for a bit then went on the prowl. I met up with my pal Nina by the bar and she introduced me to a Slovakian pal of hers - Fatima. Fatima wasn't the sort of girl I'd usually pick, not that there was anything wrong with her, in fact she has a lovely ass, but she wasn't really my type (she is slim, brunette). However, as Nina recommended her I decided to give her a try. We went off to the Kino where Fatima gave a spirited performance with a blow job, during which she became quite wet while I fingered her. We then had sex, with good kissing, in several positions on the sofa but after a while I sensed that this wasn't doing much for her, so we finished the session with her giving me more oral - which was very enjoyable, particularly when she was on her knees in front of me. This was a half hour session.

After a bit of a break I approached Magda (.lv) who I had sampled yesterday as I fancied a bit more of her company. She was talking to another girl at the bar and when I suggested that she might chat with me she declined, saying that she would go to the room with me when I wanted to, but didn't want to talk to me. Well with that kind of brush off I called it a day (probably for ever!) with her and went off. To add salt to my wounded ego I spied her chatting enthusiastically with a guy on a sofa later in the afternoon.

BTW I spotted Lynn (.de) (tall, well built brunette) at Artemis yesterday and today and briefly chatted with her. She is an old flame of mine from Oase (she gave me a skilled bj there). She has had a boob job - two months ago now - and they are mega huge! She seemed to have more confidence now and was picking up men happily whenever she turned her mind to it.

Following my brush off from Magda I went for an adventure. I spotted a nice blonde by the Kino who I had fancied by the bar earlier, but hadn't chatted to. Without any introduction I just asked her to suck me in the Kino. She went at it enthusiastically and then after a minute or two I suggested we went to a room. In the room we just shagged for the rest of the half hour with little chat. Unfortunately she needed a lot of lube and put it on each time we changed positions. She finished the 1/2 hour with an extended bbbj. Turns out her name is Shana from Poland - I like her smile a lot, although her English is poor. She told me that she wasn't relaxed but next time, now she knew me, she would get more turned on and could shag for longer.

Finally I thought I would have an adventure with Jenna who was sitting at the bar in her usual spot. She has spectacular fake boobs but also a lovely ass which I had noticed the day before. Again I took her with little chat straight to the room - in fact she was keener on talking than I was. She gave a very skilled bbbj, including deep throat, and seemed to enjoy 69 too as when we had sex she didn't need to lube up. She rode me for a bit, kissed me very nicely, and this was very sexy so we finished like this (after 1/2 hour) in time for me to get my flight home. IMHO her best features are not her boobs (which look nice but obviously aren't natural looking or feeling) but her personality, which is actually very down to earth and pleasant, and her attractive rear end, which has a beautiful curve to it.

[QUOTE=Bearsk]
I am jealous, Vivian generally laughs at my "device".
[/QUOTE]

I'm sure she laughs at my physical device too, Bearsk!
However, my Kindle was very impressive with a selection of Shakespeare,
Dickens and Tolstoy. Maybe classic literature weakens the young ladies...

Hi everyone,

I'll be in Berlin in a few weeks and plan on heading to Artemis on 27 & 28 December. Can't wait!

I wanted to ask what regulars there think is the best strategy for getting a good service out of a girl? I know it is hard to say but do you have any tips on what to ask or what to look for in a girl there? do you always insist on working out the 'deal' before you go to the room? does this help?

thanks!

ahh, Vivian, its more a Mid Summers Night Dream than War n Peace. IMHO
[QUOTE=Macca 74]I'm sure she laughs at my physical device too, Bearsk!
However, my Kindle was very impressive with a selection of Shakespeare,
Dickens and Tolstoy. Maybe classic literature weakens the young ladies...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk]V
Petite blondes, recommended
Marketa Czech
Rafaela Rom
Antonia Rom
Siena Bul
Kaschia Pol

Several tall blondes who tend to be optiflicks: Jane, Pia, Mia. YMMV
Apart from that, you may be out of luck.
BSK[/QUOTE]

Bearsk and Macca74, thank you both. I have the coveted list now. I should be set even if half of them are working.

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Macca74, nice FR.

To the other monger maestros, the Danielle that Macca74 describes is exactly my type of girl. Any of you guys know if there are other girls at Artemis that fit that profile of young, slim, fair and friendly? If you can, you will be doing me a great favor. I plan on going there with that list in my hand :-). Thank you.

I promise to follow up with field reports (like I always do)

-V[/QUOTE]Try Hannah - I had a decent session with her, but various others have told me that she can be a real treat if it 'clicks'. Perhaps it will for you? Antonia is another slim blonde girl and is a terrific performer, but she may or may not qualify as sufficiently pretty for your tastes.

Enjoy,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Vitrea]Bearsk and Macca74, thank you both. I have the coveted list now. I should be set even if half of them are working.[/QUOTE]Not sure about Raffaella - I think she's a bit of a princess myself. She is also quite moody. Kimino knows her quite well. I suggest that you chat with her for a good while before you commit to the room, and if she doesn't give you the right vibe, then give her a miss.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Assmanbob2]Hi everyone,
I wanted to ask what regulars there think is the best strategy for getting a good service out of a girl? I know it is hard to say but do you have any tips on what to ask or what to look for in a girl there? do you always insist on working out the 'deal' before you go to the room? does this help?
thanks![/QUOTE]

Angus the scribe has written extensively in his blog about etiquette questions. But a few simple suggestions: don´t be a twit - that really goes a long way. It is amazing to see how some men think because they´re paying for it, that gives them unlimited license to just be beastie boys-I hear girls talking about it all the time. No grabbing, macho posturing, etc. just quiet respect and listening - taking a modest interest in what she has to say. However hardened pros you may think the staff are, they are still women. Yes sure some probably like a vague hard fuck fantasy occasionally. But, the truth is - you may be number 6 out of an ultimate 8-10 guys plowing the same field that day, so if you want it to be special, you need to pay attention bro.

By far the most useful thing is: talk a bit first-see if there is a vibe (and if not, no matter how hot she is, walk away, or if it seems she´s pushy and just wants to get to the room...don´t). The vibe is THE thing, ultimately, that separates the wow from the pointless optifuck. Watch the direct (or not) eye contact and body language - if she seems awkward, she´s probably in it for the money, honey. After a few minutes of harmless chit chat (vs. immediately like "hi, do you swallow?"), if it´s the first time, be clear on as you say, the deal expectations. Well worth asking re: kissing, as it can sometimes be a rude shock in the room when this is suddenly off the menu. Ask her what she likes. A little gentle touching while talking before heading off shows you are safe. You can even spend a whopping 3 minutes in the room giving her a massage, which I always find is a real ice breaker and often very appreciated. Otherwise, just be yourself. Often times softly softly can lead to some pretty hard stuff...But every one has their style, and I am sure you will find yours.

Of course, failing all the above, waving a ton of cash around also seems to stimulate good service...but resist this as it messes things up for the rest of us mortals.

Thanks Rocketboy! I've generally taken the same approach as you have mentioned in the past, but I think I need to be a bit more open about what they provide in the room before getting in there. I'll have to get over my natural shyness.

sir angus magee kbe, dear gentlemen, here is the story of my empty wallet:

fkkgirl: hey baby, schatz, zimmer baby?

zimmerbaby: of course!

maria hun – blond. 27 years old, wearing pink colours, spends much time time at the playingmachines. i love her eyes, they send me a message, but i can't catch the content of it, only that i like it. strange sensation. service is good, not spectacular, but sometimes maria is the right medicine for me. nice 69, bbbj, gfe. communicates in english, is intelligent and updated about the world. she is also updated about my cure and treatment. lovely would have been able to love her in ordinary life.

suny ger – maybe 26, 175 cm, silicontits, tatooes, and lot of piercings in mouth and breasts / pussy. gfe, daty, bbbjcim, something frightning about her, but she is very nice person, even though a bit sharky at times. last time i saw her, she had short blond haircut. she smokes a lot, so i prefer licking her pussy and ass.

sheenya mold – holy god! maybe 22, blond long hair. 160 cm, small breast, the most beautiful eyes at artemis. so polite, gentle, like flowers from the garden of eden. i want to listen to ave maria while i smell her hair and feel her skin. i was in a special mood caused by the atmosphere that she created, that i had a quiet session with no extras. her pussy is perfectly shaped with a light pink colour designed by armani. after the session the godess of transylvania gave me a desert consisting of beautiful smiles and 'the correct words of delight. next time i will spend 2 hours in the temple of light.

sotayon (?) thai – don't really remember her name, she is 155-160, long black hair, works at a massage parlour another place in berlin, but she will not tell me where, and it's ok for me. respect is important in every human relationship. charges 20 extra for the massage, but its worth it. the thing about thai massage is the teasing. it's priceless, lying there in a safe atmosphere and waiting for her hand to reach the balls, and her nails to give you the sensation that i estimate the value of in 1200 emotional euros. maybe more. good sex, makes my dick so hard that we have to change position. works mostly in the ground floor.

kathy: rom 23 years, short stylish black hair. her face looks just like susan dey (google) from la law (1990) speaks english perfectly. charming beautiful girl, great personality (i don't really know that, i just feel it somehow).165-170 cm, slim. kissing is obviously not her favourite act, but you still have a normal session with a great girl. lovely. looking at her eyes is worth the session in itself. yes, i am crazy.

huge breasts hun 30 years, i don't remember her name. biggest breasts i have seen in my dirty life. it was early artemis breakfasttime that particular day. she hunted me and followed me towards the slaughterhouse in 3. floor. i felt very embarrased, because i had this walk of shame with the sister of goliath from the restaurant, and everybody was looking at us, and there was no music, and i had a halfway boner, and i could almost hear that the ladies working in the bar were both laughing and praying for me. sex was ok, nothing more, nothing less. it would be better if i had brought som strawberryjam or chocolatecream from the kitchen, because kissing big tits without having no taste of it feels very sad.

gabitza hun: maybe 25 (?) sweet looks, brown hair, pretty body, problem was that she caught me in offside position. i had just finished a session in downstairs kino, and my mouth smelled pussy and perfume. she also knew that, and i hadn't been able to clean up, and the descendant of the huge and brave magyars would probably have done better if had spend a few minutes in the shower. can't blame her, will try again.

kimberley ger / bar – beautiful mix, similar face to beyonce (the artist).23 years. she approached me and i mentioned the similarity, she asked if i wanted to be with 'her', i felt i maybe sound rude and decrease her selfesteem by mentioning that, but then i said to myself: i am a sex costumer, not a social worker, so stupidy can occure some times. i had fucked a lot that day, and i told her she needed to be patient, and helping me with a happy ending. she said: when i suck your balls, you will be fucking my pussy. i liked that conversation, something started moving under the white robes of artemis. sex was full of energy, passion, eyecontact, life was very good that evening in the 3rd floor. i could not forget the session afterwards, so i went to see the beautiful strippers of artemis. catchy music and moves, and refreshing coca cola from plastic cups. made a new session with her afterwards. fantastic bbbj, ballsucking is like when you haven't seen food in 48 hours and attack it like an animal. holy god, made me ejaculate for the 5th. and 6th time that day. it must have been the peppermint tea with lots of sugar.

maya pol blond, beautful girl, i guess she is 27 years old. smiling and relaxing vibrations. service is both excellent and because of her gifts from the lord, its an optifick to repeat. pink beautiful pussy, kissing like an angel. unfortunately i don't see her at artemis so often, i presume she travels a lot.

magda pol: this girl is confusing me: by the way she looks at me sometimes, i can't really tell if she likes me and want more (of my money) , or she want me to fuck off. she is 22 years old. 175 cm, now little shorter blond hair, a bit ice queen-way of acting. been with her twice, her pussy and ass are perfect. when she is sitting on the 'bed', and spreading her long legs, and the view into her reproduction area is the centre of the universe, the rush of blood from my brain to my dick forces me to lick and rim this wonderful creature for 30 minutes. sometimes she starts teasing by crawling around like a cat while her female part are ascending upwards, and gentleman, by that time i have no idea how to control my feelings and sexuality. i am not into any kinky stuff, but this girl is a candidate to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] on my body. kissing for extra, bbbj is only ok, she doesn't like it, she use to spit out and clean her mouth while sucking. i will session her again, that's for sure. life is too short and sometimes too painful not licking her fleshy beautiful tasty pink pussy. my god, forgive me, i have dirty sinful fantacies. your son lucifer is taking over.

hanna rom or mold: maybe 24, little girl, long brown hair, sweet as turkish delight. approached me in the downstairs kino, i told her "mein schwanz ist tot", and i was sitting there to learn some german language. she asked if she could learn some words herself, so she sat down and was quiet in 20 minutes. then she started touching my fingers and stroking my stomach in 10 minutes. the tension was reaching historical peaks. gentlemen: when a naked ladys hand reaches the medium side of your legs, you must surrender. thi sensation is one of the strongest emotions in my filthy life. sex was with no stress, she spent so much time sucking and licking the balls, i was in heaven, and heaven is from this moment defined as a few kilometres outside the homeground of hertha berlin football club!

fkkgirl: schatz! zimmer baby? i suck you good.

zimmerbaby: of course!

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1100926]Maria HUN – Blond. 27 years old, wearing pink colours, spends much time time at the playingmachines. I love her eyes, they send me a message, but I can't catch the content of it, only that I like it. Strange sensation. Service is good, not spectacular, but sometimes Maria is the right medicine for me. Nice 69, BBBJ, GFE. Communicates in english, is intelligent and updated about the world. She is also updated about my cure and treatment. Lovely would have been able to love her in ordinary life.

[/QUOTE]This sounds like a girl I did in September.

What about her tits? Does she have magnificient C-cup (maybe D-cup) natural tits?

Norjan

"Huge breasts HUN 30 years, I don't remember her name. Biggest breasts I have seen in my dirty life"

Is this the return of Clarissa?

Do Messe events have a big negative impact on the workings of a club like artemis, ie that the club will fill up with plenty of men, hence making it more difficult to get time with the girls you want. The reason I ask is because I am thinking to visit artemis early March when the travel fair is advertised at the Berlin Messe. Am I worrying about nothing here, ie is an event like the travel fair unlikely to have that much of a negative impact on artemis or do I in fact have a real concern?

Thanks,

Mohab

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1101003]This sounds like a girl I did in September.

What about her tits? Does she have magnificient C-cup (maybe D-cup) natural tits?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yes, she has, but it may also have been the princess of Ostrava (CZE) Marketa you are talking about. Hard to say, but Marketa tends to use antiseptic remedies in her mouth after a BBBJCIM. Not every girl does that.

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1101076]Do Messe events have a big negative impact on the workings of a club like artemis, ie that the club will fill up with plenty of men, hence making it more difficult to get time with the girls you want. The reason I ask is because I am thinking to visit artemis early March when the travel fair is advertised at the Berlin Messe. Am I worrying about nothing here, ie is an event like the travel fair unlikely to have that much of a negative impact on artemis or do I in fact have a real concern?

Thanks,

Mohab[/QUOTE]I visited Artemis during the IFA messe in September, and your concerns are justified. I did not enjoy my visits at that moments. Things will probably be better if you visit Artemis before going to messe, things are more quiet then. In the evening the amount of dicks are as the distance of New York Marathon. The ticket is valid all day, so you can split up the visit.

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk; 1101008]"Huge breasts HUN 30 years, I don't remember her name. Biggest breasts I have seen in my dirty life"

Is this the return of Clarissa? [/QUOTE]I can not even remember the names of the atomic bombs the USA used against Japan in 1945. There is a connection between these two cases. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1101076]Do Messe events have a big negative impact on the workings of a club like artemis, ie that the club will fill up with plenty of men, hence making it more difficult to get time with the girls you want. The reason I ask is because I am thinking to visit artemis early March when the travel fair is advertised at the Berlin Messe. Am I worrying about nothing here, ie is an event like the travel fair unlikely to have that much of a negative impact on artemis or do I in fact have a real concern?

Thanks,

Mohab[/QUOTE]Mohab I've already answered your question in the Samya thread:

The club rules for party and special events applies here at Samya as well.

If special events is in the town or held at the club, be sure there are many men and girls at the clubs, if you like the party and hectic atmosphere then go, be ready to chase the girls as all the girls are very busy, the best girls would be in the room most of the time and you don't see them, also the girls are rushed because so many men are waiting and some won't go with you for more than 30min.

I guess everybody in the forum knows you ask too much and report too little. Not fair. Go out and experience it yourself and report back.

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1101196]Mohab I've already answered your question in the Samya thread:

[/QUOTE]So far I have remained silent on the Mohab questioning issue. This latest round of question though begs a response.

IMO it is not so much that he asks question and reports little. It is the sort of questions he asks. I mean-is Artemis busier during a Messe? Um-of course it fucking is. That is why the club was built within walking distance of the Messe, so that Artemis would be busy. All he has to do it take a look back in he forum, maybe search "Messe" and there are a multitude of posts on this matter. Mohab's questions are generally impossible to answer (are the girls in an Austrian FKK equal to the girls in a German FKK?) or bone-headed-ly simple as in the above example.

One can only imagine the type of customer this monger would be and pity the poor provider who ends up with him on her plate. I hope Fatima / Vivian is reading this and maybe takes the month he is due to visit off.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1101233]So far I have remained silent on the Mohab questioning issue. This latest round of question though begs a response.

IMO it is not so much that he asks question and reports little. It is the sort of questions he asks. I mean-is Artemis busier during a Messe? Um-of course it fucking is. That is why the club was built within walking distance of the Messe, so that Artemis would be busy. All he has to do it take a look back in he forum, maybe search "Messe" and there are a multitude of posts on this matter. Mohab's questions are generally impossible to answer (are the girls in an Austrian FKK equal to the girls in a German FKK?) or bone-headed-ly simple as in the above example.

One can only imagine the type of customer this monger would be and pity the poor provider who ends up with him on her plate. I hope Fatima / Vivian is reading this and maybe takes the month he is due to visit off.

AM[/QUOTE]Also he said he is a poor student, but wants to visit all the expensive clubs around the world. Sometime I wonder if this guy is going there for real or he is dreaming about the clubs.

Artemis and Samya is to different price-level. Going to expensive clubs like Artemis and worried about the money, is stingy and try to squeeze every penny out of the girls is bad style, I also pity the girls in this case. My warning to my girls. J. H. S. M. As well. Funny we are supposed to warn other guys about bad girls, in this case is the opposite.

I agree with AM and others with the Jedi code of conduct, try to be generous in your mind and money, even if you are not rich. If you threat the girls nicely and with generosity they will be nice to you.

Nille

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1101173]Yes, she has, but it may also have been the princess of Ostrava (CZE) Marketa you are talking about. Hard to say, but Marketa tends to use antiseptic remedies in her mouth after a BBBJCIM. Not every girl does that.[/QUOTE]The girl I'm talking about has the most beautiful tits I've seen at Artemis, could'nt be better. Her hair was what I think is called dirty blonde (?) (Brown and blonde mixed) and she was a bit tanned. She were sitting at one of the playing-machines besides the stairs outside the main bar and she had some pink clothing around her hips.

She were really focusing on playing (the machine had touchscreen) while I stood there beside her for several minutes, she were just ignoring me. The I asked her if she wanted to go to a room and up we went.

She said she was from germany (her english were quite good) and that her name was Jasmine (not sure about the spelling) but I could tell she were bullshitting me.

Does anyone know her?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1101313]The girl I'm talking about has the most beautiful tits I've seen at Artemis, could'nt be better. Her hair was what I think is called dirty blonde (?) (Brown and blonde mixed) and she was a bit tanned. She were sitting at one of the playing-machines besides the stairs outside the main bar and she had some pink clothing around her hips.

She were really focusing on playing (the machine had touchscreen) while I stood there beside her for several minutes, she were just ignoring me. The I asked her if she wanted to go to a room and up we went.

She said she was from germany (her english were quite good) and that her name was Jasmine (not sure about the spelling) but I could tell she were bullshitting me.

Does anyone know her?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yeah, I was with Yasmine / Jasmine the last time I was in the Artemis. I had a mixed experience with her. She's absolutely beautiful but a bit mechanical for my tastes and she didn't kiss which should have been a deal breaker for me.

My experiances with her are here.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1086327&viewfull=1#post1086327[/url]

Hi everyone,

I will be in Berlin only 1 night and in a group so will have to make my trip to the Artemis late at night. I'll probably be there between 12PM. 5AM the morning of December 16th (night of December 15th). If anyone plans on being there at that time let me know I'd love to meet up. I've been to the Artemis a couple of times but it was 3-4 years ago. My main question is what will the pick of girls be like late at night or in the early morning? Do many girls leave earlier? I've read through the forum and from my past experience it's probably difficult to go in expecting to find a certain girl because there are so many. The pictures of Coni and Siana on the website really appeal to me. I also saw some posts that seemed to recommend Siana and Coni maybe. Can I expect that they will be there or do they work earlier in the day? Sorry for the questions. I am currently in Poland and have seen many beautiful girls. I'm wondering if someone can also recommend a couple of thin, petitie Polish girls who might be good performers also.

Thanks!

sir angus magee kbe, dear gentlemen. my dick has no ph. d in economics and financial priorities.

fkkgirl: why are you lonely, zimmer baby?

zimmerbaby: yeah!

jenna 27 ger: have seen her many times during my visits, and now it was time to extend the celebration of st. nicks day at artemis. blond. 170 cm, silicon tits, pretty in a special way, i think she is very attractive. her nature is quiet, her presence is 'different' in a positive way. she was ro relaxed in the room, made me calm down without saying so much. i love that. slow bbbj, gently licking the balls (i really love that). kissing body and mouth, also gently. beautiful fleshy pink pussy, the colour was so perfect, the taste made me sigh. i found myself do visual observations of her pussy, it was high class. what a perfect invention, and people are excited about the ipad? i had a great hour long session with her. real gfe. i did not want to finish, so we stopped fucking, just kissing, stroking and some cozy talking. i needed that, maybe there is still a human being deep inside there? great sensation! will repeat.

gentlemen, is she the so called 'queen of artemis'?

ella 31 rus: short blond cut. 165 cm, i tipped her to be 34-35, she was little disappointed, and i felt a bit stupid, but she took it with a smile. tonguekisssing and especially ballicking was beyond my imagination. normally, if it's ok for the girl, i can live with long oral sessions. i have had heavier issues in life than that. i enjoyed it very much. she had a licking-technique that almost made me cum without touching the dick. this is highly graded material dear gentlemen, and it may be one of wikileaks forthcoming publications. it should be. intelligent, and has got the know-how of her profession. will repeat.

dark girl dom. republic: maybe 30, long hair. 160 cm. captured me in the kino where i was trying to learn som german. my vocabulary is improving, and i hope that i one can read the writings of karl marx and friedrich engels in original language. i have a lot to work on before this can happen, until then i must buy these hello, kitty comics whuch is easier reding. this was my lucky day, all the girls did automatically the ballicking. excellent bbbj. there is something with having the dick in a mouth of a black girl. it is forceful and strong sensation. life was good, food was ok, weather was shit.

ivy 21 ger: i wrote about her in my first post and i am strongly delighted by the positive feedback from sir angus magee by posting it in rod-tread. thank you!

i mentioned that i would examine her development, and because of that gentlemen i had a 'fuck for science'. the university of artemis has helped her to develope from being a newbie to have higher skills which can qualify for a bachelor degree at the end of 2011. the candidate was relaxed, performed creative features, licking her perfect pink pussy made me crazy and i fucked her hard in doggy worshipping her tight beautiful ass till finish. next test: july 2011.

maribelle 20 rom: 165 cm, pretty body / tits, cute face. but this went all wrong! it started well, but when the fucking began, she had this sad expression of a little girl in her face. having her looking in my eyes while fucking in mish, convinced me that she is in the wrongest place. i stopped, told her i didn't want to finish because it makes me so tired after the finish. this is my issue, not hers. maybe i was making a story / situation out of nothing. or is it that we sometimes look further than just our egoistic pleasures, and meet another human beeing with empathy? i hope so, i can see the drawbacks of this activities, and sometimes the reality bites. problem is that she has had several approaches afterwards regarding sex. looking sad when i in a polite way say no thanks while she is complaining about low income. i would rather eat dogshit in the restaurant than have this semi-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126][CodeWord126][/url] feeling again. i hope you learn and adapt to your job fast little girl, or hopefully find another way in life. i doubt she will.

but the world keeps turning / moving. and after chaos cometh light.

long black hair 30 afghanistan:. and just when you are disturbed by the misery in eastern europe, you suddenly are approached by a smiling relaxed pearl from the wastelands of war. lives in hamburg, has a 'normal' job there (as she says). spends time being passionate, nice talking to her. encouraged in the communication, bright girl. very exotic experience. gfe, bbbjcim. i did not fuck, she started kissing the body and mouth gently, afterwards i thought she was going to ride on me without protection, but she had this thing with massaging my dick by gliding her wet pussy forward and backward while she was giving massage to the balls. santa maria, what a sensation. what good in life have i done to get this kind of reward? sex like observing the sunset by the mediterranean sea with little wine and mellow melodies in the background. finished by sucking me off and made me explode in her mouth like a bomb!

halin pol 25 (?) : after the midnights, there is a special atmosphere in the kino downstairs. girls come one by one, try to make a deal, using their dirty tricks, touching you and make things hard, even though you are totally outfucked. i like it there sometimes. sound of yourself and the girl, the neighbouring rooms, from the movies, all mixed up. my best sessions starts always in the kino, and i meet many clever talented candidates. the good thing is also that i can give every girl a fair individual treatment, and pick up when i feel the chemistry. in the smokehole upstairs a lot of individuality disappears. well, halin has very beautiful green eyes. 165 cm, slim, small breasts, looks a bit like soshy who appears in timbalands music video 'morning after dark' (see youtube). good kissing, ballsucking, sexually convincing, horny looks, really good fuck.

all good things come to an end and, and this saturday is that day, but berlin and artemis, i will be back.

thanks for reading.

zb

My total FKK visits from 2008-present include FKK Palace-3 times, FKK OASE-2 times, FKK Artemis-1 time, FKK Gobe Zurich-1 time. However I only really started using this site around Easter 2010 and since then I have done 2 trips and reported on both of them. It is impossible to report on a trip I haven't done, however without the valuable information gained on this site my trip to Globe Zurich for example would have been impossible. As far as my question regarding the messe in Berlin I was referring more to the nature of the event ie the travel fair, and its impact, ie is this a large event as opposed to messe events in general which I have already read can have a negative impact on a club like Artemis in terms of ratio male to female. Also in response to stinginess, you can rest assured that I am the kind of customer who always offers before being asked to buy a drink for a girl, and at all times in and out of the rooms I will treat the girls with the utmost respect and as a gentleman should do. This is a fact about me hence completely dismissing all false notions, about me being stingy as utter nonsence. As I can only visit FKK's twice in a year as I fly in from England and budgetary limits, of course I will investigate the site for the most relevant up to date facts and I honestly can't see what the fuss is about. In order to mantain some level of standing on the site and as sign of gratitude for all the help I have recieved up until now, making some of my trips come true I will post no more questions until March when I return from my trip with full reports. Merry Christmas to you all and happy hunting.

Mohab

[QUOTE=BigBad; 1101346]Hi everyone,

My main question is what will the pick of girls be like late at night or in the early morning? Do many girls leave earlier? I've read through the forum and from my past experience it's probably difficult to go in expecting to find a certain girl because there are so many.

Thanks! [/QUOTE]If you want to know if some particular feline will be there at some particular day and time, call the reception and ask. But because of holidays, time-outs, family emergencies, home-sickness, shopping sales, the occasional flu, etc. It is impossible to say weeks in advance. Really the best you can do is to ring on the day, and even then, if your request has not turned up yet, they won't know. There are sort of patterns but even these change. Girls who start during the day tend to knock off at midnight. The days seem at least recently to be pretty quiet and IMHO probably not worth it, though I am sure others disagree if they have their favorites on the day shift. The night shift can roll in anytime starting from 1600. But there is definite bump in traffic starting at 1800 and generally by 2000 the night team is at full strength. However, there are a number of girls who come earlier, leave for a few hours, and then turn up even at 2100. How late someone stays simply varies. But I do believe there is a commitment that if U-turn up later you have to stay til some minimum time. 0300 or so.

On the Messe madness. Beyond misgivings over the questioner, the question itself seems a bit more complex. The downside, of all being just too much, is well documented, although it varies; there are Messen and then there are MESSEN. E. G. The Tourist one seems to really overload all systems. The girls will tell you that different Messen have their own character of Messe Menchen, and some are worse than others. However, on the up side (so to speak) there can be lots of new recruits who've cum in just for the event. The strategy here is simple. Turn up at 1900, enjoy yourself, and then bugger off by 2230. The thundering hordes have dinner, get loaded, and then decide to turn up for a wild night, so you just want to be gone by then.

As usual Rocketboy gives good, sensible and accurate advise. I will just ad that Artemis does have rules the girls must follow concerning the hours they must work. While I am not 100% sure of how exactly it works, I know that the girls who arrive later (18:00-19:00) are required to stick around until closing time. 05:00. This ensures that they do not just work the plum hours and disappear after the crowds have abated. So generally the selection is good through out the night.

One thing I would ad though is that by 03:00 or 04:00 many girls have mede their money and are not as interested in working. So arriving late you will have to be extra careful to find a girl who still wants to give a good performance. This can actually work in your favor for a good session it you are patient and take the time ti interview a girl properly.

AM

Siena, Conni and a goodly number of the Polish girls work late til 5am.

You can tell on any given day though.

Angus used to have a hand in the roster. Then he started working again, so its random.

[QUOTE=BigBad; 1101346]Hi everyone,

I will be in Berlin only 1 night and in a group so will have to make my trip to the Artemis late at night. I'll probably be there between 12PM. 5AM the morning of December 16th (night of December 15th). If anyone plans on being there at that time let me know I'd love to meet up. I've been to the Artemis a couple of times but it was 3-4 years ago. My main question is what will the pick of girls be like late at night or in the early morning? Do many girls leave earlier? I've read through the forum and from my past experience it's probably difficult to go in expecting to find a certain girl because there are so many. The pictures of Coni and Siana on the website really appeal to me. I also saw some posts that seemed to recommend Siana and Coni maybe. Can I expect that they will be there or do they work earlier in the day? Sorry for the questions. I am currently in Poland and have seen many beautiful girls. I'm wondering if someone can also recommend a couple of thin, petitie Polish girls who might be good performers also.

Thanks! [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin; 553141]Halenseestraße 32-36 10711 BERLIN.

Phone: 0890-44410.

Homepage:

[url]www.fkk-artemis.de[/url]

Open: Daily 11am-5am.

Entrance: 70€

Price: 60€/30min[/QUOTE]Entrance is 80€!

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen;1101563]Entrance is 80€![/QUOTE]Wow N C! You had to go all the way back to the beginning to pick out that little error. Thumbs up.

:)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1101564]Wow N C! You had to go all the way back to the beginning to pick out that little error. Thumbs up.

[/QUOTE]Ok my mistake, since the new layout, my thread order is reverse I realised it now, thanks for waking me up.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1101233]So far I have remained silent on the Mohab questioning issue. This latest round of question though begs a response.

IMO it is not so much that he asks question and reports little. It is the sort of questions he asks. I mean-is Artemis busier during a Messe? Um-of course it fucking is. That is why the club was built within walking distance of the Messe, so that Artemis would be busy. All he has to do it take a look back in he forum, maybe search "Messe" and there are a multitude of posts on this matter. Mohab's questions are generally impossible to answer (are the girls in an Austrian FKK equal to the girls in a German FKK?) or bone-headed-ly simple as in the above example.

One can only imagine the type of customer this monger would be and pity the poor provider who ends up with him on her plate. I hope Fatima / Vivian is reading this and maybe takes the month he is due to visit off.

AM[/QUOTE]


Angus, I had the same feeling about Mohabs type of questions but didi not want to put into words. Well, you did, and this is fucking funny, specially the last part of your post.

Mohab et al.

I would not get too hepped up over this Mohab, but your "account" is overdrawn and we look forward to your reports to redress the balance.

It may not be relevant to you but your line of questioning and chat may irratate some the the girls. I have a rule that if I am not Zimmer bound then I lead the conversation to a point where the girl has an exit to go ply the trade with opportunity to talk later. If they ignore and stay to chat then they know where we stand.

Peace to you.

BSK.

Angus, the venting of your seminal hypertension and Scottish spleen is noted. BSK.

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1101453]My total FKK visits from 2008-present include FKK Palace-3 times, FKK OASE-2 times, FKK Artemis-1 time, FKK Gobe Zurich-1 time. However I only really started using this site around Easter 2010 and since then I have done 2 trips and reported on both of them. It is impossible to report on a trip I haven't done, however without the valuable information gained on this site my trip to Globe Zurich for example would have been impossible. As far as my question regarding the messe in Berlin I was referring more to the nature of the event ie the travel fair, and its impact, ie is this a large event as opposed to messe events in general which I have already read can have a negative impact on a club like Artemis in terms of ratio male to female. Also in response to stinginess, you can rest assured that I am the kind of customer who always offers before being asked to buy a drink for a girl, and at all times in and out of the rooms I will treat the girls with the utmost respect and as a gentleman should do. This is a fact about me hence completely dismissing all false notions, about me being stingy as utter nonsence. As I can only visit FKK's twice in a year as I fly in from England and budgetary limits, of course I will investigate the site for the most relevant up to date facts and I honestly can't see what the fuss is about. In order to mantain some level of standing on the site and as sign of gratitude for all the help I have recieved up until now, making some of my trips come true I will post no more questions until March when I return from my trip with full reports. Merry Christmas to you all and happy hunting.

Mohab[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1101539]Siena, Conni and a goodly number of the Polish girls work late til 5am.

You can tell on any given day though.

Angus used to have a hand in the roster. Then he started working again, so its random. [/QUOTE]Thanks everyone for your information it is greatly appreciated!

One other question I have is there any ability to obtain Euro at the Artemis either through money exchange or an ATM machine? Since I arrive late in the evening into Berlin I believe the normal exchange places will already be closed. I have plenty of money in USD for my visit but I assume USD is not accepted at the Artemis. I can also get some Euro from an ATM but would like to be able to exchange some of my USD to EUR late in the evening to make sure I have plenty for my visit. Does the Artemis exchange money or if not is there anywhere else you could recommend where money could be changed late in the evening? I'll be at the Marriott Berlin and they change money but only 100 EUR / day.

The front desk of Artermis will take dollars for entry and you can negotiate with the girls but you will lose on the exchange.

There is an ATM at Artemis that takes virtually all cards for withdrawal.

Unfortunately, the airport is poor for exchange rate.

I change cash on Friederichstrasse south of the station or near the Beate museum adjacent to Zoo Garten for the best rate. These offices have hours 9am. 9pm typically.

Changing cash at ICC is not possible.

Maybe best to change for euro before you fly.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=BigBad; 1102145]Thanks everyone for your information it is greatly appreciated!

One other question I have is there any ability to obtain Euro at the Artemis either through money exchange or an ATM machine? Since I arrive late in the evening into Berlin I believe the normal exchange places will already be closed. I have plenty of money in USD for my visit but I assume USD is not accepted at the Artemis. I can also get some Euro from an ATM but would like to be able to exchange some of my USD to EUR late in the evening to make sure I have plenty for my visit. Does the Artemis exchange money or if not is there anywhere else you could recommend where money could be changed late in the evening? I'll be at the Marriott Berlin and they change money but only 100 EUR / day. [/QUOTE]

Thanks for that report! A girl from Afghanistan at Artemis? Can you recall her name (or can anyone else. Angus?)

It might be worth making a trip just for that.

Great report BTW!

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006; 1103378]Thanks for that report! A girl from Afghanistan at Artemis? Can you recall her name (or can anyone else. Angus?)

It might be worth making a trip just for that.

Great report BTW! [/QUOTE]Far be it for me to doubt the word of a working girl but I find the Afghanistan origins unlikely. I will give who ever the young lady is points for style though. At the very least she deserves recommendation for casting her net further afield than Italy or Morocco. I can not help wondering if it is Carmen who tells this whopper.

Anyway, a trip to Artemis is always (almost) fun, but I doubt you will be sampling any authentic Afghan pussy there anytime soon.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1103475]Far be it for me to doubt the word of a working girl but I find the Afghanistan origins unlikely.[/QUOTE]In April 2009, I had a kino session with Patty (or Patti or Pati) , who said she was from Afghanistan. It could be the girl on top in the picture of "Fana + Pati" on the Artemis website, the hair colour was similar. Really gorgeous girl, with excellent BJ skills. She spoke English fluently, and I think she said she had lived in the UK for several years. I didn't see her on later visits, although I might not have recognized her if she'd changed her hair colour.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1102232]The front desk of Artermis will take dollars for entry and you can negotiate with the girls but you will lose on the exchange.

There is an ATM at Artemis that takes virtually all cards for withdrawal.

Unfortunately, the airport is poor for exchange rate.

I change cash on Friederichstrasse south of the station or near the Beate museum adjacent to Zoo Garten for the best rate. These offices have hours 9am. 9pm typically.

Changing cash at ICC is not possible.

Maybe best to change for euro before you fly.

Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]I was able to visit the Artemis in the early morning of December 16th. Thanks for the info on paying the entry fee in USD. That proved helpful. I was really looking forward to meeting Siana and Coni. Unfortunately, it turns out Siana had already gone home to Bulgaria for the holidays. I did meet Coni though and had my first session with her. She was great. I had 4 sessions in total and my last was with Coni and Viktoria. That was definitely my most memorable. One session was with 2 Polish girls. One was Charlotte and the other's name escapes me but it did start with a D. It was something like Dravka although that's not correct. They were okay. My other session was with 2 girls from Moldova but I forget their names. I always found them together. One had dark black hair and the other was very thin and had brown hair. They were also fine to session with but Coni and Viktoria were special. I hope to be near Berlin again in February and will definitely make it back to the Artemis if possible. A wonderful place!

I will be in Berlin in the first week of January and plan on visiting Artemis on the nights of 3rd. 4th. 5th January.

If any fellow forum member would like to meet up please PM me.

I posted the same message on T&A thread, but thought I would post here as more likely to a response.

Thanks.

Mac75

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby; 1100926]Sheenya MOLD – Holy God! Maybe 22, blond long hair. 160 cm, small breast, the most beautiful eyes at Artemis. So polite, gentle, like flowers from the garden of Eden. I want to listen to Ave Maria while I smell her hair and feel her skin. I was in a special mood caused by the atmosphere that she created, that I had a quiet session with no extras. Her pussy is perfectly shaped with a light pink colour designed by Armani. After the session the Godess of Transylvania gave me a desert consisting of beautiful smiles and 'the correct words of delight. Next time I will spend 2 hours in the Temple of Light.

[/QUOTE]She is an angel.

One Sunday in December, I turned up at the gates of Artemis.

The snow was falling like leaves in the autumn fall, and I decided that a trip to Artemis was in order to get the winter chill out of my bones.

Somebody should tell Julian Assange about this place. Instead of risking life in prison in the US, for lousy sex with Swedish feminists, he should just walk into Artemis, where beautiful women chase you.

And that was the problem. I have been to FKK Oase twice, and now to Artemis, and I just don't know how to say no. I met Daniella, a pale blonde from Vienna first. A lot of DFK, DATY and a fabulous blowjob followed by sex in various positions. A great experience, and I will certainly repeat.

After wandering around, I settled down. Two coffees, and a long time in the sauna, refreshed me. The problem was that I had a long list from ISG in my head, and so I knew the sharks, and the ones I wanted to avoid. And then there were the untested ones. All in all, a confusing state of affairs. Wandering around, avoiding women who had not been tested by ISG, was quite a task. At times I wondered if I would get laid.

One nice place to hang out, and get picked is the kino, especially if you are a bit shy like I am. When there, I was approched by Nina from CZ who has had stellar reports here. After a bit of conversation, we went to the room, where we started with deep kissing, and then a wonderful blowjob. DATY followed, and then sex in various positions. Nina did rush me a bit, but I will not say that she is a shark for the sex was exciting, and perhaps I should have spend more time on foreplay etc. By the way, do any of you guys have sex for the entire 30 min. For me it was more like 15 to 20 min with a nice chat at the end. Perhaps the next time I should time it. 10 min blowjob. 10 min foreplay and 10 min fucking! Let me know your thoughts.

The final discovery of the day was Brena from Romania, an exotic looking woman who had Asian eyes and was very beautiful. Once we were in the room, she kissed me deeply. She was very enthusiastic, and one of the best lays. After a fabulous blow job we had sex in differnt positions. All in all a fabulous trip. The list here at ISG allowed me to avoid the sharks. Thank you!

[QUOTE=Mr Styles;1104990]By the way, do any of you guys have sex for the entire 30 min. For me it was more like 15 to 20 min with a nice chat at the end. Perhaps the next time I should time it. 10 min blowjob. 10 min foreplay and 10 min fucking! Let me know your thoughts.[/QUOTE]Ciao Mr Styles, good to know you a had a good time!

Personally I don't worry too much about the time, think it's more about quality than quantity. Who cares if you don't use your entire 30 minutes if you had a great time.

Another issue is when you get caught in the overtime trap, but this very rarely happens.

If you decide to go for a one hour session (or more) , I think it's much better to decide it before you start, this way the girl will know how to "optimize" the session for a longer time.

My 2 cents.

Best!

Kimino

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1104990]I met Daniella, a pale blonde from Vienna first. A lot of DFK, DATY and a fabulous blowjob followed by sex in various positions. A great experience, and I will certainly repeat.

[/QUOTE]I also have good memories of Daniella, she was nice and didn't smoke which is nice kissing her.

Last time I skip the BJ and we fuck hard for full 30 min. I usually like longer session as there is more time and better chance to get the girl turned on, which turn me on a lot. Of cause I'll ensure the chemistry is there.

Nille

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1105189]I also have good memories of Daniella, she was nice.

Nille[/QUOTE]Hi Guys,

Approx what age would you estimate Daniella?

VG.

[QUOTE=Gergiev; 1105362]Approx what age would you estimate Daniella?

VG. [/QUOTE]Early to mid 20s, I reckon. Great girl, and well worth spending some time with.

Need help finding the name of a girl at Artemis. She has dark brown hair, says she's from Romania, has medium sized breasts, is slim and tight everywhere else, has a very very pretty face and a decent sized rose tattoo on the left side of her stomach. I saw her last night but did not catch her name.

Anyone know this girl?

[QUOTE=Assmanbob2; 1106961]Need help finding the name of a girl at Artemis. She has dark brown hair, says she's from Romania, has medium sized breasts, is slim and tight everywhere else, has a very very pretty face and a decent sized rose tattoo on the left side of her stomach. I saw her last night but did not catch her name.

Anyone know this girl? [/QUOTE]Ina? Maybe?

Hello!

I am by no means a regular sex buyer or whatever the correct term for that is. However, I often have fantasies about buying sex from beautiful women and I dream about it regularly. Recently I was in the RLD of Brussels and saw some really hot (pornstar looking) women but I was too nervous to go up and enter one of their windows. I didn't know what to say to them, how to negotiate etc. I feel it would be much more relaxed to buy sex in a location like Artemis, but I am unsure of how hot the women here are. Are the girls here as hot as the hottest girls in the RLD? I am seriously considering a trip to Berlin just because of Artemis.

Thanks for any answers guys! .

Traveller Uk. Thanks. That could be her name although I have no idea. I'm heading back there next week so hopefully will bump into her again for another session. She was a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin; 1107452]Hello!

I am by no means a regular sex buyer or whatever the correct term for that is. However, I often have fantasies about buying sex from beautiful women and I dream about it regularly. Recently I was in the RLD of Brussels and saw some really hot (pornstar looking) women but I was too nervous to go up and enter one of their windows. I didn't know what to say to them, how to negotiate etc. I feel it would be much more relaxed to buy sex in a location like Artemis, but I am unsure of how hot the women here are. Are the girls here as hot as the hottest girls in the RLD? I am seriously considering a trip to Berlin just because of Artemis.

Thanks for any answers guys! . [/QUOTE]Hi Mrlarkin,

"Hottness" being a highly subjective quality it is difficult to say if the Artemis crew is as hot or hotter than the girls you saw in Brussels. Plus I ave not been to Brussels so can not really make a comparison. That being said, I would guess that generally they would be equal to or surpass the RLD girls. I base this on my own explorations in various other RLDs.

I would caution you though that if you found it difficult to approach a girl in a RLD, you might find it even more so in the FKK environment. After all, in an RLD you really do not have to do much talking above the pricing. If you are to get more from an FKK like Artemis you will have to engage the girls in conversation, fend off the girls who approach you who you do not want and approach those you do. As a newbie this can be an overwhelming experience.

I am not trying to discourage you, just to make you aware that the FKK environment is not the easiest one for a newbie to handle.

AM

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin; 1107452]Hello!

I am by no means a regular sex buyer or whatever the correct term for that is. However, I often have fantasies about buying sex from beautiful women and I dream about it regularly. Recently I was in the RLD of Brussels and saw some really hot (pornstar looking) women but I was too nervous to go up and enter one of their windows. I didn't know what to say to them, how to negotiate etc. I feel it would be much more relaxed to buy sex in a location like Artemis, but I am unsure of how hot the women here are. Are the girls here as hot as the hottest girls in the RLD? I am seriously considering a trip to Berlin just because of Artemis.

Thanks for any answers guys! . [/QUOTE]Ciao Mrlarkin, might add something to what Angus said.

Been to Brussel's rld a couple of times, maybe 5/6 years ago, and had fun, but, nothing I could compare to an FKK in general, and Artemis in particular, which is the one I prefer.

For what I remember the lineup in Brussels was not comparable to the one at Artemis. I remenber some nice girls but not so many and the level of the service was very low. Mechanical, in a hurry and performed in ugly places.

Walking up and down a street looking at girls behind a window, with people around you, maybe dim light, possibly cold can be fun in some situations but nothing that can be compared to staying in a place like Artemis.

At Artemis you will be in a very protected environment, where everybody is there for the same purpose, the rates and "rules" of the house are usually known and respected by everybody.

You will have time to look at all the girls and choose the one you prefer.

For sure you will be nervous before entering, but once you paid the entrance and put on your robe I think all the rest wil just flow.

Girls will start coming up to you, asking you if you want to go in the room with them, some might be sharks some not, but all you risk is to end up in a room with a beautiful girl that might act too mechanically or that might try to finish you off in the quickest of the ways. Big deal!

That's what you will get in a RLD 90% of the time anyways.

We all got our sharks I think, I did for sure, with time and experience (and the help from this forum) I learnd a bit how to move around and how to spot possible sharky girls.

In this thread you will find lots of useful information.

HTH.

Kimino

You will be asked if "This is your first time?". I was honest and was given a tour and a briefing on how the place worked by the lovely lady concerned (Polish, slim, tall, long blonde hair, called Victoria, sadly not seen here since).

The Receptionist will give you similar advice, but will not then take you to a room and f*ck your brains out.

Admitting to being a newbie can make you feel a bit vulnerable. A compromise might be to claim that you have been to other FKKs before but not Artemis.

As a new face you will attract attention from the sharking ladies, if you don't fancy them, just say "No thank you", its allowed.

Don't bang the first girl that shows interest, especially if they are tall, slim, blonde and gorgeous. I was lucky, some of these girls are the opti-ficks, who look gorgeous but deliver a very limited service.

Take your time, wait for a few hours before you make your first choice. Watch who is going up to the rooms alot, who is coming down with a smile. Some girls don't shark, some do, you can't assume that either group are good or bad in the rooms.

The older German chaps that hang out there are regulars, watch which girls they talk to and hook up with. They know their stuff.

A good start is Jenna. Can't be missed, long straight blonde hair and huge enhanced breasts. Known to many of us as "The Queen of Artemis", she will show you a great time, every time.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1107564]Take your time, wait for a few hours before you make your first choice.[/QUOTE]This will probably be the most difficult part. Ahahaha.

Go for it!

Gentlemen,

Is Loralina (the black girl from Kenya) still working at Artemis?

She seems to have been taken off the website, so I was wondering whether or not she's still available.

Thanks for any input.

Bless

[QUOTE=Mrlarkin; 1107452]Hello!

I am by no means a regular sex buyer or whatever the correct term for that is. However, I often have fantasies about buying sex from beautiful women and I dream about it regularly. Recently I was in the RLD of Brussels and saw some really hot (pornstar looking) women but I was too nervous to go up and enter one of their windows. I didn't know what to say to them, how to negotiate etc. I feel it would be much more relaxed to buy sex in a location like Artemis, but I am unsure of how hot the women here are. Are the girls here as hot as the hottest girls in the RLD? I am seriously considering a trip to Berlin just because of Artemis.

Thanks for any answers guys! . [/QUOTE]Go on the Artemis website and view the gallery of photos of the girls. Judge for yourself from that where the hotter girls operate.

Service will be on average 3/400% better in Artemis than in the Brussels' (or any other) RLD, that much I can guarantee you.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk; 1107564]You will be asked if "This is your first time?". I was honest and was given a tour and a briefing on how the place worked by the lovely lady concerned (Polish, slim, tall, long blonde hair, called Victoria, sadly not seen here since).

The Receptionist will give you similar advice, but will not then take you to a room and f*ck your brains out.

Admitting to being a newbie can make you feel a bit vulnerable. A compromise might be to claim that you have been to other FKKs before but not Artemis.

As a new face you will attract attention from the sharking ladies, if you don't fancy them, just say "No thank you", its allowed.

Don't bang the first girl that shows interest, especially if they are tall, slim, blonde and gorgeous. I was lucky, some of these girls are the opti-ficks, who look gorgeous but deliver a very limited service.

Take your time, wait for a few hours before you make your first choice. Watch who is going up to the rooms alot, who is coming down with a smile. Some girls don't shark, some do, you can't assume that either group are good or bad in the rooms.

The older German chaps that hang out there are regulars, watch which girls they talk to and hook up with. They know their stuff.

A good start is Jenna. Can't be missed, long straight blonde hair and huge enhanced breasts. Known to many of us as "The Queen of Artemis", she will show you a great time, every time.

Have fun! [/QUOTE]Excellent general advice, top-rate specific advice as regards Jenna too. Also consider Ella from St Petersburg. Both girls are porn-star 'lookers' and give superb service to all-comers.

Charlie

Thanks for the advice guys!

Very helpful information.

Happy New Year fellow Artemis dwellers! I shall be there in a fortnight.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1107676]Go on the Artemis website and view the gallery of photos of the girls. Judge for yourself from that where the hotter girls operate.

Service will be on average 3/400% better in Artemis than in the Brussels' (or any other) RLD, that much I can guarantee you.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Agree with Charlie about the service level. Even a bad session at Artemis is generally better by a factor of 10 than a typical RLD session.

The web site I find not really representative of what you will find at Artemis. None of the pics show faces and in general the pics are amateurish, not really geting good angles on the girls. Plus they all seem to wear the same blond wig to hide identity. If you like the web pics you will be blown away but the girls in real time. In any case here is a link to the web site pics.

[url]http://www.fkk-artemis.de/en/girls.php[/url]

Happy New Year everyone.

AM

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1107677]Also consider Ella from St Petersburg. Both girls are porn-star 'lookers' and give superb service to all-comers.[/QUOTE]Yes she does. Just one reminder: She's in her mid-forties.

HB

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1107727]Happy New Year fellow Artemis dwellers! I shall be there in a fortnight.[/QUOTE]That's 2 week correct?

I'll be up there on the 1st and 2nd of feb.

Would have liked meeting you, maybe next time.

If anyone is planning to be there in those dates, send a pm, if you wish to meet!

And yes, I'll repeat this further on.

Happy new years guys, hope 2011 will bring peace of mind, happiness and whatever you are looking for to you all.

Ciao!

Sorry Kimino. Yes fortnight = 2 weeks. I will be there 15 and 16 January.

Perhaps we need to be a bit more organised if we are ever going to meet there!

Have a great new year one and all.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1107796]Yes she does. Just one reminder: She's in her mid-forties.

HB[/QUOTE]Ella in her mid-forties? She looks about 30-35 or so. Must be good genes! Or did you refer to someone else?

[QUOTE=Charles Browne;1107869]Ella in her mid-forties? She looks about 30-35 or so. Must be good genes! Or did you refer to someone else?[/QUOTE]I'm also impressed, I would have said around 35. Well, we must find out what she eats because she is in great shape!

Only sessioned with her once (or maybe twice) , and didn't click with me particularly. But she is a pro and very gentle person. IMHO.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1107796]Yes she does. Just one reminder: She's in her mid-forties.

HB[/QUOTE]So cool. So I have been fucking a forty something. Hey, don't knock it until you have tried it. .

[QUOTE=Charles Browne;1107869]Ella in her mid-forties? She looks about 30-35 or so. Must be good genes! Or did you refer to someone else?[/QUOTE]Parts of her body may be 5 years or younger, so in average she could be 35. I've fucked Ella at Oase 6 or 7 years ago, then she was in her end-thirties.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub;1107903]Parts of her body may be 5 years or younger, so in average she could be 35.[/QUOTE]Ahahaha great HB.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1107875]I'm also impressed, I would have said around 35. Well, we must find out what she eats because she is in great shape!

[/QUOTE]Lots of exercise and a high-protein diet, no doubt.

Anyway, if she's really that much older than she looks, well, you get the benefit of younger looks and older experience, so it's really a win-win as far as I'm concerned.

Anybody got any recent intel on a short, blonde, round assed, Polish girl at Artemis going by Shauna? WOO this nasty little thing has a soft, tight, warm, deep, pink, Polish girl arsehole that brought me such joy and pleasure. I buggered Shauna up the butt as hard and as fierce as I have any human being. I took immense joy watching her scream and cry out and clutch and scratch at the sheets with with fingernails. . . and looking at herself in the bedside mirror at the same time . . . getting thoroughly sodomized up her arsehole. And responding YEAH when I asked her if she liked me dickin' her in her Polish asshole. GAWD I love to fuck Polish girls! Can't wait for some more of Shauna's pink Polish pooty hole. Hope she's still working at Artemis the next time I go!

I suspect that Shauna cannot wait for your next visit.

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1109036]I suspect that Shauna cannot wait for your next visit.[/QUOTE].

Hehehheehhehehehehe

[QUOTE=The Cane;1108925]I buggered Shauna up the butt as hard and as fierce as I have any human being. I took immense joy watching her scream and cry out and clutch and scratch at the sheets with with fingernails. . . . . getting thoroughly sodomized up her arsehole. [/QUOTE]Don't you love it when she does that.

Nice.

[QUOTE=Markthomas1950; 1109148]Don't you love it when she does that.

Nice. [/QUOTE]It likes it a LOT! I pray she's there the next time I'm at Artemis. Was in the early afternoon last time when she approached me and said she was into anal. Was perfect timing too because I'd already enjoyed the good breakfast they put out and had time to relax before starting out right. . . right in Shauna's butt! LOL!

Hi there,

Will be there Wednesday next week (report follows) , but before just one question: Do they still have a dessous day there (I would like to avoid it if possible).

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Mathias037; 1109973]Hi there,

Will be there Wednesday next week (report follows) , but before just one question: Do they still have a dessous day there (I would like to avoid it if possible).

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Yes they do and yes it is Wednesday.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1109974]Yes they do and yes it is Wednesday.[/QUOTE]Love it!

Thought it was on Tuesday but checked and you are right.

Must say that for what I recall in my last visits, not all the girls dress up and some of them do it also in non dessous days.

Which I think makes sense.

Bye

Anyone recognise this girl?

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/stacy.html[/url]

I have never been with her (the tats turn me off) but I am certain she was for a while an Artemis regular.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1110939]Anyone recognise this girl?

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/stacy.html[/url]

I have never been with her (the tats turn me off) but I am certain she was for a while an Artemis regular.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes, that's probably the Stacy I reported on last year here:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=983017&viewfull=1#post983017[/url]

A very nice tattoo if one likes that sort of thing.

The following two days took place during the IFA messe in September 2010. I won't reveal the dates but it was weekdays.

I'm a very busy man so it may take some time to report.

Day one, part 1:

Checked in at my home airport with a nice feeling in my mind and a grin of my face, looking at all the unfamiliar people that were also heading for Berlin. Certainly for different reasons than mine. Once through the stressful security control I made it in time to cool down with a beer and a sandwich before boarding the plane.

The flight was well, no turbulence that that disturbed my good mood and good looking stewardesses (blondes) that served me another beer short after take-off and then an Absolut with a Coke which made me feel warm and cosy. Looking at those fine looking stewardesses made me longing for Artemis. Tried to flirt with them but they didn't seemed to care about my invitations.

Landed at the airport and had, as at my previous visit, planned to take some kind of public transport but it seemed very difficult and like a waste of time so once again I took a taxi. (How come all taxi drivers in Berlin are foreigners?) Placed myself in the backseat on the right side, where I could clearly see the taximeter, the driver and the GPS screen. I had memorized the way (the map) from the airport to the hotel, don't like to get hustled.

Checked in at Swissotel Berlin Hotel (my kind of hotel) and went to the elevators. In the room, which was very very nice, the first thing I did was checking out the safe where I placed all my money. 6 credit cards, passport, flight tickets, camera, car keys, cell-phone and computer and then went straight to the mini bar.

To be continued.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1111025](How come all taxi drivers in Berlin are foreigners?) [/QUOTE]How come all cab drivers in NYC are foreigners? It's a low pay job, that's why.

HB

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1111025]The following two days took place during the IFA messe in September 2010. I won't reveal the dates but it was weekdays.

I'm a very busy man so it may take some time to report.

Day one, part 1:

Landed at the airport and had, as at my previous visit, planned to take some kind of public transport but it seemed very difficult and like a waste of time so once again I took a taxi. (How come all taxi drivers in Berlin are foreigners?) Placed myself in the backseat on the right side, where I could clearly see the taximeter, the driver and the GPS screen. I had memorized the way (the map) from the airport to the hotel, don't like to get hustled.

Checked in at Swissotel Berlin Hotel (my kind of hotel) and went to the elevators. In the room, which was very very nice, the first thing I did was checking out the safe where I placed all my money. 6 credit cards, passport, flight tickets, camera, car keys, cell-phone and computer and then went straight to the mini bar.

To be continued.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Taxi drivers in berlin you can trust. I have + 100 rides and never been hustled. Another thing, I don't think we need details about all your cash, there are better forums to show off all your stuff.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1110939]Anyone recognise this girl?

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/stacy.html[/url]

I have never been with her (the tats turn me off) but I am certain she was for a while an Artemis regular.

AM[/QUOTE]I think I remember her. Old artemis stuff.

Hi guys!

Looks like I will probably get the opportunity to spend a Friday night at Artemis pretty soon. It will be my third visit (sorry for not posting a proper report of the second one).

Now I have a question for all you Artemis pros: My previous visits have been Monday and Tuesday afternoon / evenings. Of course I understand that a Friday evening will probably be quite different when it comes to the number of girls and customers, but how big is the difference? What are the pros and cons of the slower weekday nights versus busy weekends? Will I on a Friday see tough competition for girls / seats in the bar area / rooms / showers etc, or do you think that the advantage of more girls outweighs the disadvantages?

I ask because there might be a slight chance that I can reschedule the trip if I act soon (even though I'm probably stuck with the Friday option.)

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!

By the way, do one see more action in public, for example on the circular beds in the main bar and in the kinos, on weekends that on the slower weekdays. I quite like the feeling of "sophisticated orgy" that in-the-open-sex can give (I'm thinking Eyes Wide Shut here again).

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll; 1112115]Hi guys!

Looks like I will probably get the opportunity to spend a Friday night at Artemis pretty soon. It will be my third visit (sorry for not posting a proper report of the second one).

Now I have a question for all you Artemis pros: My previous visits have been Monday and Tuesday afternoon / evenings. Of course I understand that a Friday evening will probably be quite different when it comes to the number of girls and customers, but how big is the difference? What are the pros and cons of the slower weekday nights versus busy weekends? Will I on a Friday see tough competition for girls / seats in the bar area / rooms / showers etc, or do you think that the advantage of more girls outweighs the disadvantages?

I ask because there might be a slight chance that I can reschedule the trip if I act soon (even though I'm probably stuck with the Friday option.)

Any thoughts? Thanks in advance!

By the way, do one see more action in public, for example on the circular beds in the main bar and in the kinos, on weekends that on the slower weekdays. I quite like the feeling of "sophisticated orgy" that in-the-open-sex can give (I'm thinking Eyes Wide Shut here again). [/QUOTE]Ciao Dr Jeckill, another factor that may change things a lot is if in the particular date that you will be visiting there is a expo going on or not and which one. Check here:

[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de[/url]

I visited Artemis both in very busy expo evenings and very relaxed weekday afternoons (never earlier than 2pm) and never was disappointed.

In busy nights, with many men around, you usually get also a lot of nice girls. Girls enter "production mode" and tend to maximize their earnings doing things a bit in a hurry, at times. You might have to wait for a room etc.

A couple of times I was in Artemis in very busy nigts, meaning that the place was full, but for some reason all men where drinking or lying around, all girls where complaining for the lack of action and very few where fucking. Kind of good situation.

Basically you never know. Still I never found myself in a situation where there was not enough good looking girls around. This happened to me in a couple of other fkks, in other areas.

I wouldn't worry about it, you will have fun.

My 2cents.

Kimino

It is quite difficult to call as it depends on how many Italians will arrive for their 24 hours shag-fest. As Kimino says, if they're are lots of guys around then there tends to be lots of girls.

I am there this weekend and will be interested to see whether a mid January weekend is quiter than normal because of the post Christmas lull. There have been few reports on this thread of late, so it may be that people are paying off their credit cards and avoiding the wet weather. Then again, it may be hectic.

In my experience there isn't a consistant amount of public shagging. Blow jobs and sex in the kinos happens regularly but personally I have never seen it in the bars.

Weekends are fine, just busier. As Kimino notes the Messe scene has as much to do with busy-ness as the day of the week, if not more. Unless you have a clear choice I would not worry about it to much. The main time to avoid are the very busy Messe be they weekend or week day events. The busiest one I have seen was the fruit & vegetable buyers Messe. It was a mad house with guys doubling up on lockers.

As for public sex in the bar-it happens but is not a regular occurrence at Artemis. I have seen blow jobs, MMF threesomes (a very public one on one of the bar beds) and a FFM threesome and a few public MF sessions. But it is not something you can count on unless you head to the kino.

AM

Happy New Year to you all.

Popped in this week for my first appearance of 2011. There were many girls and few fellas. Most of the girls were new, or at least unknown to me. It appears that the financial uncertainties continue to bear upon the level of female attendance at Artemis.

I had two good sessions with regular girls, including a particularly hot one with Gabicza (Hung. 23 yo. 5'3' tall, big tits, sweet face, lip stud, a few tats). I had commissioned her to do me a private lap-dance as part of our session, and she produced a very raunchy performance. We ended up having a 2 hour session which proved immensely enjoyable for us both.

I also test-drove a new provider. Elizabeth from Brazil (MILF, big bolt-ons, quite tall, angular face, quite pretty). A solid performance with all the usual acoutrements (DATY, DFK, BBBJ etc). Good session. No special reason to repeat.

Best.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1112383]Happy New Year to you all.

Popped in this week for my first appearance of 2011. There were many girls and few fellas. Most of the girls were new, or at least unknown to me. It appears that the financial uncertainties continue to bear upon the level of female attendance at Artemis.

I had two good sessions with regular girls, including a particularly hot one with Gabicza (Hung. 23 yo. 5'3' tall, big tits, sweet face, lip stud, a few tats). I had commissioned her to do me a private lap-dance as part of our session, and she produced a very raunchy performance. We ended up having a 2 hour session which proved immensely enjoyable for us both.

I also test-drove a new provider. Elizabeth from Brazil (MILF, big bolt-ons, quite tall, angular face, quite pretty). A solid performance with all the usual acoutrements (DATY, DFK, BBBJ etc). Good session. No special reason to repeat.

Best.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Nice to read from you Charlie!

New girls? Nice, gambling time for me when I'll be there!

Saw Raffaella?

Arghhh.

Ciao!

[QUOTE=Glabor;1111075]Taxi drivers in berlin you can trust. I have + 100 rides and never been hustled. Another thing, I don't think we need details about all your cash, there are better forums to show off all your stuff.[/QUOTE]OK, good to hear. I'm very surprised thou about the taxi drivers. They all seem so hmm. Dishevelled, and they smoke and they do not use the seat belt etc. I would prefer more sophisticated and more well-kept drivers.

Another thing, I don't try to show off. I haven't even mentioned how much money I brought yet. I just try to give newbies good advice how to handle things, money, valuables etc in a safe way when traveling. No one likes to go abroad and get robbed.

Norjan

I was there recently. I had cold and was really looking forward to using the steam room, only to realize that Artemis does not have a steam room. They have a 60 degree and 90 degree dry sauna but no steam room. I am sure this is a well known fact to regulars but I thought it might be helpful to less frequent visitors.

Thanks for the input guys, and the link!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1112210]

[url]http://www1.messe-berlin.de[/url]

[/QUOTE]Unfortunately it seems like my visit WILL be during a big messe. It's Internationale Grüne Woche Berlin (21. 01 to 30. 01. 2011) : "The world's biggest fair for food, agriculture and horticulture". Damn, doesn't sound too good.

Oh well, I probably can't influence the timing in any case, so I can either take my chances I guess, or just forget it and take an early flight home. Hmm. Skipping a night of naked ladies and fantasy sex is not an easy decision to make.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1112499]OK, good to hear. I'm very surprised thou about the taxi drivers. They all seem so hmm. Dishevelled, and they smoke and they do not use the seat belt etc. I would prefer more sophisticated and more well-kept[/QUOTE]I saw a white Hammer limo going around Berlin, you could try hiring that. Just kidding.

I can only confirm that I find taxi drivers in Berlin to be absolutely fine, and I definitely use them a lot.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll; 1112513]Thanks for the input guys, and the link!

Unfortunately it seems like my visit WILL be during a big messe. It's Internationale Grüne Woche Berlin (21. 01 to 30. 01. 2011) : "The world's biggest fair for food, agriculture and horticulture". Damn, doesn't sound too good.

Oh well, I probably can't influence the timing in any case, so I can either take my chances I guess, or just forget it and take an early flight home. Hmm. Skipping a night of naked ladies and fantasy sex is not an easy decision to make. [/QUOTE]I'll be there 2 days after that.

Give it a try. It's obviously personal, but extremely chaotic and busy nights can be just as good if you are in the mood and you just dive in it.

Also, usually the real chaos starts late. People leave the messe, go to eat with customers or colleagues and then get to Artemis, maybe around 23:00 or such. The majority of them.

Ciao.

Kimino

I had arranged to meet Traveller Uk. He had told me he would be there at about 11. 30. But he was early and spotted me at reception as I had said that I would arrive pretty much on the dot of 11. I enjoyed his company and it was great to have someone knowledgeable to while away the time with in between shags (which as I only went for half hour sessions was quite a lot of hours!)

Things seemed pretty quiet anyway, maybe the January lull. The atmosphere was more like a Sunday than a Saturday and talent seemed pretty thin on the ground. I selected Fatima, a 27 year old slim Slovakian girl with a pert bum, who I had seen previously and who had proved a reliable performer on that occasion in the kino. This time we went to a room and I was not disappointed by a good GFE that went on for the whole half hour with a lot of enthusiasm on her part.

Traveller Uk had recommended Alison, a beautiful blonde German lass from Cologne. 27, who was by far the most stunning woman in the brothel today. I gave her a roll and she proved to be a good session for someone so visually stunning, although she did lose a bit of enthusiasm at the end, also kissing was only without tongues and not that prolonged. However the beauty of her face and her natural D-cups, which looked spectacular hanging down in doggy, was worth the 60 euros invested.

After dinner my final selection was Jenny, a curvy 30 year old blonde German resident of Stuttgart, where she has a career and family. I pretty much grabbed her outside the kino and without exchanging many words she was soon sucking me off on her knees. Only pausing briefly to ask me where I came from (which I didn't answer, asking her to just get on with things and I'd tell her later) she did more oral sex, then I shagged her in the kino in cowgirl, missionary and doggy, before we went to the room next door to finish off. Which she did with more oral, then reverse cowgirl and cowgirl. At which she was very skilled. This energetic performer satisfied me for the day, which I finished off with a sauna.

In between the action I also had the chance to have a couple of brief chats with the gorgeous Nina. My favourite girl at Artemis, even if we haven't seen much room action lately.

I look forward to meeting Traveller Uk again tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1112383]I had two good sessions with regular girls, including a particularly hot one with Gabicza (Hung. 23 yo. 5'3' tall, big tits, sweet face, lip stud, a few tats). I had commissioned her to do me a private lap-dance as part of our session, and she produced a very raunchy performance.[/QUOTE]Private lap dance, sounds interesting. Did that took place in a zimmer? Is that a common thing among the girls, I mean, do most of them do that? 50 Euros?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1112838]Private lap dance, sounds interesting. Did that took place in a zimmer? Is that a common thing among the girls, I mean, do most of them do that? 50 Euros?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yeah, it took place in the Zimmer. It was just something fun that I suggested to her to brighten up the session. No charge for the lapdance. I have sessioned with Gabicza 5 or 6 times in the past, including duets, and there was never a suggestion that I would give her anything extra for the service.

I don't know if it's common. I never asked before. It was just something that sprang to mind on the day and she was more than happy to oblige.

C

Hit Berlin for the first time yesterday with big plans for Artemis. I have experienced Oase outside Frankfurt a couple of times and FKK Swiss down in Zurich so pretty much knew what to expect. Artemis definitely did not disappoint. Paid the 80 Euro entrance fee, got my robe & key and grabbed a good shower. It was interesting exploring the different floors to see exactly how the place was laid out. I liked the idea of having a Kino, bar & lounge on a completely different level than the pool, sauna etc downstairs. I think this did a good job of creating different atmospheres depending on your taste (I prefer lounging poolside).

Anyway, after a nap and checking out the talent I ran into Marta from Moldavia (not 100% sure on the name). Thin with dark hair, great curves, sweet and gentle. She didn't mind kissing and fooling around in the Kino until we retired to a room. She knew all the right moves and we have a great time, BBJ and multiple positions until finish.

Round two was with Isabela from Latvia. She is a sure winner in looks (petite with a killer ass, legs. The whole package) but a downer if you want any sort of connection (fake or otherwide). Isabela is a wham bam thank you sir kinda girl so be warned. We headed to the room and she went right to it with an obvious desire to finish as fast as possible. Fortunately I don't let any of this bug me and took my sweet time enjoying the sights.

Heading back today for another relaxing day in paradise before heading back to prison.

As Saturday (see below) had been more like a Sunday in feel, due to the low numbers of girls and punters, so Sunday was really much too quiet, even for my tastes. I arrived at 11 am and by 3 pm I was pretty much despairing of finding a talented girl to session with and had not been with anyone yet. The reliable Jenna had been monopolised by a regular client of hers all morning and as soon as she became free again she was snapped up. Nina, much to my embarrassment, snubbed me in front of everyone in the smoking lounge (fortunately as things were quiet this wasn't too many people). However this had a fortunate outcome, for which I suppose I should thank her (thanks Nina!) in that the only girl who gave me anything remotely like a human expression when this happened (I had tried to get Nina to sit next to me, including by calling out her name in a friendly way, but she walked pretty much straight by, pausing only to say that my 'friend' Fatima wasn't in that day) was an attractive brunette with her hair in a lovely bob, who was on the neighbouring sofa.

Shortly after the rejection from Nina I was chatting with this girl who turned out to be Paulina. 24, from Poznan in Poland. Her English wasn't as good as her German (my German is pretty much non-existent) but it was good enough and we managed to communicate well. I liked her relaxed style and girlfriend-like demeanour. She told me that she didn't like 5 minute sessions which, as I was looking for a GFE was just what I wanted to hear. In the room, which she wasn't in a hurry to go to, I took my time kissing and pleasuring her, which she seemed to appreciate, and we spent an enjoyable hour together, with one orgasm each being the final result. Throughout she was very affectionate, which is what I had been asking some other girls to do yesterday but with a lack of success, so I was really lucky to find her. I think that Paulina is my new favourite!

I will be returning to Berlin from 29th January (Saturday) for a whole week. So anyone who would like to fix up a meeting at Artemis. Please drop me a line and we can coordinate!

[quote=london traveller; 1113183]nina, much to my embarrassment, snubbed me in front of everyone in the smoking lounge (fortunately as things were quiet this wasn't too many people). (i had tried to get nina to sit next to me, including by calling out her name in a friendly way, but she walked pretty much straight by, pausing only to say that my 'friend' fatima wasn't in that day).

shortly after the rejection from nina i was chatting with this girl who turned out to be paulina. 24, from poznan in poland. her english wasn't as good as her german (my german is pretty much non-existent) but it was good enough and we managed to communicate well. i liked her relaxed style and girlfriend-like demeanour. she told me that she didn't like 5 minute sessions which, as i was looking for a gfe was just what i wanted to hear. i think that paulina is my new favourite!

i will be returning to berlin from 29th january (saturday) for a whole week. so anyone who would like to fix up a meeting at artemis. please drop me a line and we can coordinate! [/quote]hi london traveller,

nina (cz) seems to be maintaining her elusiveness that some punters have had with her stay at finca erotica and exported it to even artemis. i suppose that is how she keeps her exclusivity by limiting the exposure she has to punters.

the way you explain it tends to indicate that nina was a little peeved at you by not booking her on saturday. it is hard to read or understand the minds of these working girls who not even your girlfriend. so on the sunday she ignores you but on just to let you know that her country fellow fatima (cz) is not in that day. so sweet of her to let you know in a jealous way. is this read correct?

nice one with bagging paulina from poznan. sounds like a nice fuck.

i think it may be a little while before i return to artemis this year. the crew are not interested in exile to berlin. there is only one fkk there so there is little choice. the flat rate clubs, the brothels and other cultural interests are not on the program. we will continue to stay in hesse and nrw. even bw seems off limits.

enjoy your next trip.

It was good to meet up with London Traveller, I had travelled more quickly than normal from the airport and arrived at 10. 55. Also there was an English chap that I had met at Artemis in September. Between us we had a jolly time.

I started with Alison, who looked somewhat like porn star Caylian Curtis. An all natural body and a lingerie model figure. Too good to be true and we were convinced that the service would be pure opti-fick. She grabbed me in the downstairs kino and in a moment of weakness I went to a room. What a good move, nice BBBJ, responded well to DATY and with her riding on top I couldn't last long. The kissing was light, but with a lttle tongue was available as time went by.

A little later I fancied a brunette and spotted a tall, dark haired beauty, wearing a basque and looking good. Amelie from Serbia. Off to the room, the service was a little distant with no kissing, but what a body for the chaps who like the taller lady.

Finally I partied with Harlen, a Polish brunette, slim, petite with big enhanced breasts. Full on service with kwt and much more on offer, something of a PSE. Best BBBJ I have had in Artemis.

I was then knackered. The place was quiet during the day, getting busier in the evening, but not ridiculously busy.

Sunday was as usual, quite quiet. I partied with Alison again and had an even better time and a very nice chat afterwards about her own experiences. Nice girl.

I moved on to another Brunette, Bella by name, from Turkey she said, had a piercing on her lip and also on her shoulders. Big enhanced breasts. It was OK, no kissing and a bit mechanical.

I left at 6. 30 having had an enjoyable time and am looking forward to my next visit in late March.

Nina was OK with me, she remembered where I was from but not my name (quite reasonably) , so whenever she saw me she called out "Hellooo London-Boy", she doesn't stop to chat and is focused on sharking round to make her money.

Hello,

Been there on Wednesday, January 12, after more than one year.

First a bit pissed off, when Angus Magee told me it will be the dessous day (thanks Angus for this info) , but my plane ticked was already booked. Looking all that naked girls there is a part of joy itself for me. But on the end, it turns out that it was not such a wasted day anyway.

Arrived at about 18:30, the place was not empty and not quite full. Later that evening, some girls complained that the men / girls ratio was very bad (from their perspective) and that next week (it means now) there will be a trading fair with more guests.

Thanks to my first visit there and checking this forum, I was equipped with the go / no go list of girls. So let's go to results:

Marketa, Czech.

I choose her, because of good recommendations in the forum and because she really was friendly and was trying to chat, find an eye contact etc. Here I am a bit biased, since I like what some guys call "sharking". I like girls to show some initiative, try to establish a contact and so one. I have enough of the opposite in my real life, when men need to proceed all this steps.

She is a nice blond, slim girl with nice face and a good attitude. Sex was good, DATY. 69, no DFK (on the beginning, I was considering DFK as a must, while later, I found out, that insisting will not bring me very far). Nice chat after, a bit of GFE. Was satisfied, but will not return next time.

NINA, Czech.

Another one, which I choose based on recommendations here. Not exactly my type of girl visually, but she was nice and didn't fucked me off, when I rejected her for the first time. She met me in the kino for the second time and sat down to me. She started to climb on me, DFK, BJ in the kino, so we went to theroom. Sex vas really very good. A lot of DFK. 69, active, . The only one who didn't need to use a lubricate before puting it inside. Very satisfied with her. Maybe I will repeat next time.

Jane, German.

A girl I already met a year ago. Typical German tall blonde. Friendly, nice face and perfect body. Very active in the room, she liked her pussy to be licked very much, good wild sex, even a short DFK.

Will repeat next time for sure.

Eda, Turkish (but does not look like a Turkish)

She is a petite blonde, with lovely dark brown eyes, small ass and nice tits with a piercing in one of them. She looks more like a Polish rather than a Turkish. Used to walk in a couple around the club for the whole evening. In the room, she was the pearl in the crown of the evening. Very active when I licked her pussy, trying to show me some leg positions I haven't try yet, she wanted me to play with her ass with my fingers, . Despite my quite long record of a few hundred of girls in the clubs in the last 15 years, she is the one to remember for years and the one to plan a visit to Berlin for.

I had some opportunities, which I liked, and may try them the next time:

Cindy, Polish, blond, petite, with a lovely smile.

Maya (in the couple with Magda) , blond Polish.

Kathleen, blond German, spent the whole evening on the poker machines next to the entrance. Visually not exactly my type in all that group, but I remember her from Villach (she used to be called Steffi there, and she confirmed that). In Villach, and her performance there was the best.

Denisa, brown hair, nice face, a wild haircut. On my exit she approached and asked if I will fuck her during my next visit. For sure I will.

A Polish blond couple, one being Adriana, small, big tits, in a couple with another one, slim, named Sharlene or something like that.

Even if I am not a big fan of Artemis (facilities at Oase with the jacuzzi are much better to me, compared to the cold water pool in Artemis, but there are no low cost flights to Frankfurt) , I had quite a luck with the selection this night.

Leaving the club at about midnight.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1112843]Yeah, it took place in the Zimmer. It was just something fun that I suggested to her to brighten up the session. No charge for the lapdance. I have sessioned with Gabicza 5 or 6 times in the past, including duets, and there was never a suggestion that I would give her anything extra for the service.

I don't know if it's common. I never asked before. It was just something that sprang to mind on the day and she was more than happy to oblige.

C[/QUOTE]Charlie, you lucky bastard.

I envy you.

Norjan

[quote=basketcase; 1113200]hi london traveller,

nina (cz) seems to be maintaining her elusiveness that some punters have had with her stay at finca erotica and exported it to even artemis. i suppose that is how she keeps her exclusivity by limiting the exposure she has to punters.

the way you explain it tends to indicate that nina was a little peeved at you by not booking her on saturday. it is hard to read or understand the minds of these working girls who not even your girlfriend. so on the sunday she ignores you but on just to let you know that her country fellow fatima (cz) is not in that day. so sweet of her to let you know in a jealous way. is this read correct?

nice one with bagging paulina from poznan. sounds like a nice fuck.

i think it may be a little while before i return to artemis this year. the crew are not interested in exile to berlin. there is only one fkk there so there is little choice. the flat rate clubs, the brothels and other cultural interests are not on the program. we will continue to stay in hesse and nrw. even bw seems off limits.

enjoy your next trip. [/quote]nina is a real professional career girl. i don't think that she was 'peeved' about my not seeing her the previous day, but it is a question of effort and economics. when i first saw her she was very keen on getting the 50 euro cim bonus and i think that this is what makes the work worthwhile for her, as the 60 euro half hour rate is not enough. the last couple of times i have been with her there has been no bonus and i have managed to get her to work hard for the half hour, which she knows might be written about on this forum as a punter at artemis prints these pages out and shows them to her (hi nina!). she works the room very hard, and is nearly always busy. she has regular clients but also likes to approach new men. she doesn't really need to see someone like me who will be a lot of effort for only the minimum reward. hence she recommends me to her friend fatima, who needs the business more and will be happy to work for it, but nina herself isn't really interested in seeing me herself in the future, even when the club is fairly quiet (as it was yesterday) as she is one of the most popular and busy girls there.

however, i like nina. she speaks good english, has a good sense of humour and is very entertaining company. i was disappointed when she didn't sit with me at dinner at the weekend, but chose to be on a table with some other girls, who she didn't seem to chat to (however fatima was happy to sit with me on another occasion, even though she didn't understand too much of my english chit chat!). i'm sure if nina has a word with me about what she wants we could come to some agreeement that we are both happy with and have a great session together. however, if she doesn't want to see me any more. such is life and i'm sure she will do well without me, although i will miss her.

[QUOTE=Mathias037; 1113403]NINA, Czech.

Another one, which I choose based on recommendations here. Not exactly my type of girl visually, but she was nice and didn't fucked me off, when I rejected her for the first time. She met me in the kino for the second time and sat down to me. She started to climb on me, DFK, BJ in the kino, so we went to theroom. Sex vas really very good. A lot of DFK. 69, active, . The only one who didn't need to use a lubricate before puting it inside. Very satisfied with her. Maybe I will repeat next time. [/QUOTE]Some girls lube up in the loo before going with a guy.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1113567]Some girls lube up in the loo before going with a guy.[/QUOTE]I guess one will know if the girl has or not lubed themselves prior if you lick their pussy before fucking them. LOL.

Does anyone have an information about the mysterious VIP lounge?

I remember reading a mention of it on fkk-artemis. De but didn't really had much of an explication.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1113810]I remember reading a mention of it on fkk-artemis. De but didn't really had much of an explication.[/QUOTE]Wow, my mind seems to have wandered off for a moment there. Here's what I intended to type:

I remember reading a mention of it on the Artemis website, but it didn't really have much of an explanation.

"However, if she doesn't want to see me any more. Such is life and I'm sure she will do well without me, although I will miss her".

There is a long list of guys in several clubs who have been in this position. It is one of her many skills!

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1113566]Nina is a real professional career girl. However, if she doesn't want to see me any more. Such is life and I'm sure she will do well without me, although I will miss her.[/QUOTE]Hi London Traveller,

You sound like a love struck romeo. LOL.

Some of these girls play hard to get to maintain their exclusivity. If you are on her black ball list then I guess that is the end. I am sure your girlfriends at Oase will see you right. There are plenty more fish in the sea.

[QUOTE=Basketcase; 1114247]Hi London Traveller,

You sound like a love struck romeo. LOL.

Some of these girls play hard to get to maintain their exclusivity. If you are on her black ball list then I guess that is the end. I am sure your girlfriends at Oase will see you right. There are plenty more fish in the sea. [/QUOTE]I do tend to fall for the girls a bit. Sometimes with unfortunate consequences. I am returning to Artemis before I get to visit Oase again, so there should be plenty of chances to find out if Nina has blackballed me permanently or not.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1114262]I do tend to fall for the girls a bit. Sometimes with unfortunate consequences. I am returning to Artemis before I get to visit Oase again, so there should be plenty of chances to find out if Nina has blackballed me permanently or not.[/QUOTE]Hi London Traveller;

I have been, in the past, in the same situation, few times in fact, in differents clubs and with different women.

My feed back is " better to avoid to go in artemis during few months and change your mind right now with other girls in other clubs"; better for you and for Nina.

I have been a couple of times at the GoldenTime in Brüggen and often I go to Globe in Zurich.

Now I would like to try something new.

I am undecided between the Palace in Frankfurt and the Artemis in Berlin.

I read that line-up in Palace is better than in Artemis; also I read that girls performance in Artemis are, however, better than in Palace.

What experience do you have had in these clubs?

Just posted-the Artemis visitors guide. Everything you need to know about visiting this club in one place.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

AM

London Traveller. Remember that nothing is permanent, especially in FKK land. Nina may well decide, after she has not seen you for several months, to treat you like a long lost (half hour / one hour) friend. That has happened in the past with several guys who she avoided for a few months. It's her prerogative (and also ours. The guys). Remember that what counts is her income. Good luck

[QUOTE=Gustoomas; 1114341]Hi London Traveller;

I have been, in the past, in the same situation, few times in fact, in differents clubs and with different women.

My feed back is " better to avoid to go in artemis during few months and change your mind right now with other girls in other clubs"; better for you and for Nina. [/QUOTE]Absolutely!

Imo.

Kimino

Hi.

It's the Fashion Messe week in Berlin, so Artemis was totally overrun with visitors on both days.

On Tuesday I had spent 90 minutes on a lounger with a Romanian spinner with whom I've been with a couple of times before, but I'm ashamed to say that I have committed the cardinal sin of forgetting her name. Pretty girl, fun session. Useless report, I know.

On Wednesday I came in a bit earlier, and at 6 pm just about managed to avoid the rush-hour. There were plenty of both guys and gals around at that time, but it hadn't yet developed into the pandemonium of the night before, with scores of men hanging around in the bar and no lasses in sight with resulting 40 minute waits for a room to become free and all the attendant stress and bullshit.

I had a terrific hour with 2 previous acquaintances, Carla and Antonia. Both girls are Romanian. Carla is slightly heavy-set, medium height, fairly full-busted, speaks excellent English and is witty, sharp, intelligent and fun. Antonia is slight, blond, small tits, plain face and somewhat shy in character until she's in the bedroom where she is a real superstar. They work well together and last night was a spledid display of their joint talents. Sucking, licking, fucking, kissing, full lesbi-action. The works. Anybody who fancies a genuine duet experience could do much worse than seeking out this sexy (if somewhat ordinary-looking) pair of sweeties.

I quit at 8 pm and returned after midnight intending to have a 2nd round (actually a 3rd round, 'because I'd had a 40 minute session at the Liberty bordelle mid-afternoon). By that time though the place was mobbed, you couldn't move in the bar, changing rooms or near the staircase and the queue for rooms stretched halfway back down the stairs, so I just left.

The 2 day experience reminded me how important it is for the atmosphere of the place that there is a good balance betwen the number of men and women in the club. Too few guys and the girls get grumpy, too many and they get greedy. When it's empty they won't leave you alone for 2 minutes and when it's jumping they don't have 30 seconds to chat and just want to go straight upstairs.

Conclusion. When the Messe is on, come early. Plenty of nice girls around from early afternoon but not overrun with star-struck newbies getting drunk and being uncool.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1114649]Hi.

Conclusion. When the Messe is on, come early. Plenty of nice girls around from early afternoon but not overrun with star-struck newbies getting drunk and being uncool.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Actually, the best thing to do is visit a day or two just before a Messe start. Number of girls is higher than normal.

And the number of guys are about the same. I remember an early night before a Messe, I was alone in the main bar with over 100 naked girls, there's a picture you do not forget so easily.

But this is something you can never plan exactly, that's what makes fkk something special. You never know what will happen.

[QUOTE=Glabor; 1114815]Actually, the best thing to do is visit a day or two just before a Messe start. Number of girls is higher than normal. And the number of guys are about the same.[/QUOTE]You're right, that's probably the best solution of all.

C

hi guys i was in berlin during this week and i have tried artemis on tuesday an wednesday. both days i went in the late afternoon about 15:00

as this was first visite to the paradise i did not make hurry. i observed the place during 2-3 hours and started the sesions.

tuesday :first experience was with a young petite german blonde called liz she aws spaking fluent english and her lovely face and body attracted me. was a nice session she starts slowly but then gets the rhytm. can be repeated.

second girl was called alektra (n&304; ck) she is turkish actually grown up in hamburg germany has a pretty face and nice tits makes attraction but although i am turkish and can got a good talking first i couldn't get the right rhytym with her she was quite cold on the action with escaping from eye contact even. not recommended.

as mentioned by other fellows the club got very crowded mainly by the italian guys by mid night girls even worked non stop upstairs-downstairs there was a crowd of at least 20 men waiting at the front desk for enterance while i was leaving at 01:30.

wednesday: first session was with a lovely slovakian beauty fatima (n&304; ck) i noticed her while taking a drink at dowstairs bar had an eye contact but not wanted to make a session beacuse i had just arrived but within an hour she approached me by the main kino had a nice conversation followed was one the hottest action i have ever had she hold the mood in every second of the action. receomended.

second action was with a lovely petite blonde antonia from romania i was impressed with her sweet glances perfect match hair style with her lovely face her english provided a nice frank conversation followed by a sweating hot action ca not forget. recommended.

third action was while the club was getting crowded about 1900 and iwas thinking of leaving but i noticed the gorgeous brazilian whose name i can not remember although repeated myself much. she had a body with perfect geometry made her very conditive in the action consuming a huge amount of energy from me. was a wonderful session recommended.

so after 3 good session i decided to stay longer had the dinner got some rest dowstairs and was ready for another action with a blonde model type german beauty jane. she had aproached me before in the early hours but i said later because i was targetting antonia at that time. but later i decided to have a sesion with her because she was just the most beatiful girl left available at that time because of the growing crowd. she said she wasnt kissing and that makes me a little bit dissapointed but i had i good session all the way again she was naughty did not want to lose the control and obeyed her for a difference from the aerlier action in which i was the dominant. that would have been just magnificent if she had had kissed tooo.

fifth action was with a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] type perfect german beauty sammy. sahe was in my opinion the most beatiful girl through my visits had aproached me early in the day too but informed she wasnt kissing too so i postponed to make an action. but later about 00:00 i was dreaming of her perfect body and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901][CodeWord901][/url] face. i just missed the chance 1 hour before as aproaching her she was captured by another guy so i chose to make action with jane. but when she got available i quicky aproached and got her i had had noticed an empty cabin downstairs which i did not prefered in the previous actions but i wasnt in the mood for waiting for the reguler rooms downstairs and had the best breath taking session with her which she liked too after i told she was my fifth of the day she opened her eyes in a astonished way and said that she had realised i was crazy during the action and that confirms.

to sum up 2 days of top pleasure at artemis. definitely loking forward to the next time.

Haven't had a chance to visit Berlin since late 2009-my first to Artemis. I was there this past Tuesday start to finish (almost).

Comparing the two visits:

-building the same.

-prices the same.

-gamesmanship? I think the girls are devaluating the service for the 30 min visit.

-Best value-eye candy for hours upon end.

-Least value-time always shorter than you want, upselling constant

My sessions were:

Leia, dark short hair, thin, enhanced, tanned. Talks a good game about doing a massage and going slowly, but after the 5 min massage its upsell time and fairly complicated-prostate massage, body cum, in mouth, . All for 50 euro more (or 50 each) , spend and hour, on and on. She never did blow me-just oiled up hand job, then finish from behind. Very demanding also-"touch my tits!" "Don't touch my pussy!" Probably the oddest session ever. Enjoyed the dirty talk but would never go near that again.

Lecky-tiny Thai girl. She was there in 2009 but I could never meet up with her-she likes playing the video games all day and really doesn't troll much for work. So I approached her and off we went-perfect session: kissing, foreplay, full 30 minutes. BBBJ, multi-positions. Decent enough English. She's so little she can do lots of interesting angles.

Last two sessions-forgot names-1 German. 1 Romanian. Optically appealing girls, but basic suck / fuck / out. The Romanian really whined about wanting an hour.

Odds N' Ends: Jenna is still there-quite the queen of the castle with her massive attachments. Interesting, though, in that she was not nearly as busy as in 2009, and seemed available most of the day. I sessioned with her in 2009 and it was great but rarely repeat, so passed. Recognized a few other players from 2009 who are a bit shark like for my taste.

So maybe the 30 min session is dead. Problem is-I've done an hour before, and you end up just laying there talking about absolutely nothing true or interesting. I think the girls would make a lot more money if they gave an honest level of time / service for 60 euro, and if discounted an hour to 100 euro and upped the service further I think they would come out way ahead. Just a theory.

So despite the usual "this is unbelievable" response in 2009, I was underwhelmed this time and left wanting something different. Food and facilities are a plus-see my prior comparisons to FKK world, Oasis, Colosseum.

[QUOTE=Marwar58;1114984]So maybe the 30 min session is dead.[/QUOTE]Probably not but this upselling stuff is coming up in more and more reports.

Personally for a reason or another it's kind of rare I end up with a plain vanilla session, unless I end up in a room with a girl that disappoints me for some reason. Tipically the ones that start moaning while we are still going up the stairs or the "don't this, don't that" ones.

Boh, I'll see in a weeks time I guess! Ahahaha.

Kimino

How is the scene on Sundays? And what time is best to go in day time? Any recommendations for next Sunday?

[QUOTE=Bxyz1;1115528]How is the scene on Sundays? And what time is best to go in day time? Any recommendations for next Sunday?[/QUOTE]Please read the thread. This sort of basic info is discussed time and again and never changes that much. I also just posted to my blog a pretty extensive guide. The link is posted a few reports below but hey, I'll post it again.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

AM

I think you need to pick your girl for 30 min sessions.

On the one hand, there are girls that you can have fairly quick session with such as Leki, Samira and Danzuella / Daniela.

There are others where its an hour or nothing such as Vivian, Carmen etc.

Sometimes it varies on the moment: Siena or Victoria.

You need a plan. Most of the girls are fine if you tell them what's you need.

I have missed Leki the last couple of times. She is often a first of the day 30 min deal for me maybe with a short Thai massage added. She can be hot and cold. A few months ago, I got in early, not much happening. Leki came and lay on the downstairs back corner lounge while I had coffee and started masturbating. Told me she was horny and in need of help. What's a chap to do?

We went to the room. She politely asked about time stroking my friend. We settled on an hour with massage and DATY. She joked about me cumming twice (not happening for me). It was a great session, she was wet as hell and very verbal. Approach an hour she reverted into a BBBJ. With her kneeling in front of me she ask me to show her my cum.

I am not the biggest volume guy in the world but a week without action and a frenetic session resulted in a torrent all over her face, in her hair and down into her cute tits. Looked like something from Peter North. This girl has a bit of temper so I wondered how she would react. She started laughing and got the stuff out of her eyes and rubbed into into her breasts and tummy. I lay there wasted. Total PSE.

We cleaned up, rested there for a while and then head down. I was ready to part with E170 for an hour a COF / CIm charge. I fronted with 2 x E100 notes and she went for change. She returned with E80 and refused the extra. I had given her a lipstick she likes the color of. I still have the image of her standing near the lockers with my cum in her hair and handing me 80 Euro change. Priceless.

I repeated but only for 30 min later in the week, it was athletic but not quite as spectacular. No upsell, she had told me the second time around that she was a bit tired but would try for me. Honest?

I guess the point is she seems to want to earn the extra time, although I am sure thats not universal.

[QUOTE=Marwar58; 1114984]Lecky-tiny Thai girl. She was there in 2009 but I could never meet up with her-she likes playing the video games all day and really doesn't troll much for work. So I approached her and off we went-perfect session: kissing, foreplay, full 30 minutes. BBBJ, multi-positions. Decent enough English. She's so little she can do lots of interesting angles.

So maybe the 30 min session is dead. . [/QUOTE]

Hi,

This is a list I made in August based on the performers here. It needs to be updated, but most of the information is still true. I have a similar list for OASE that I am working on. However, if Jackson would allow it, we could have an excel file which all of us can keep updating. It will be the great international sex guide info master list. Currently excel lists cannot be uploaded, so I have converted it into a PDF file, which explains why some remarks get cut off mid way. This means that all the key information is from pages one to five. The rest are identifying details that have been jumbled up when I converted it to a PDF file. However, the key information is intact.

This list served me well and I had three great experiences, avoiding the sharks. See December 2010 report.

Mr Styles. What a brilliant piece of work. Everybody will be in your debt. Any chance of update being in alphabetical order, given the huge comprehensiveness?

[QUOTE=Cordelia Shiatsu;1115846]Mr Styles. What a brilliant piece of work. Everybody will be in your debt. Any chance of update being in alphabetical order, given the huge comprehensiveness?[/QUOTE][b]Absolutely NOT! It is OK to describe a session with a girl in words, good or bad, egal. Process the info the way you want.

But presenting list of girls on ISG shows that you have no respect. If someone wants to use such a list and walk around in a club for personal use, if you want OK.

I hope this list will be deleted from ISG. No hard feeling Mr. S. But this is my point of view.

B30 [/b]

[QUOTE=Big30; 1115858][b]Absolutely NOT! It is OK to describe a session with a girl in words, good or bad, egal. Process the info the way you want.

But presenting list of girls on ISG shows that you have no respect. If someone wants to use such a list and walk around in a club for personal use, if you want OK.

I hope this list will be deleted from ISG. No hard feeling Mr. S. But this is my point of view.

B30 [/b][/QUOTE]Got to agree with B30 here. I had a quick look through the list and found it to be. Well. Sort of off. This is just the sort of thing that I think would make us ISGers look like real jerks.

Just my opinion.

I smell a big debate coming on this one....

AM

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1115841]Hi,

This is a list I made in August based on the performers here. It needs to be updated, but most of the information is still true. I have a similar list for OASE that I am working on. However, if Jackson would allow it, we could have an excel file which all of us can keep updating. It will be the great international sex guide info master list. Currently excel lists cannot be uploaded, so I have converted it into a PDF file, which explains why some remarks get cut off mid way. This means that all the key information is from pages one to five. The rest are identifying details that have been jumbled up when I converted it to a PDF file. However, the key information is intact.

This list served me well and I had three great experiences, avoiding the sharks. See December 2010 report. [/QUOTE]I don't understand. You've been to Artemis once and you are submitting a list with votes on what. 100 girls?

I really feel this is totally useless and must agree with what Angus and B30 said.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1115841]Hi,

This is a list I made in August based on the performers here. It needs to be updated, but most of the information is still true. I have a similar list for OASE that I am working on. However, if Jackson would allow it, we could have an excel file which all of us can keep updating. It will be the great international sex guide info master list. Currently excel lists cannot be uploaded, so I have converted it into a PDF file, which explains why some remarks get cut off mid way. This means that all the key information is from pages one to five. The rest are identifying details that have been jumbled up when I converted it to a PDF file. However, the key information is intact.

This list served me well and I had three great experiences, avoiding the sharks. See December 2010 report.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much. I don't have the luxury of doing trial and error in clubs so list like these help me out a lot. There are way too many girls in a club so I don't feel like remembering all good preformers. I prefer to just have a list of bad performers to help me avoid them and then see if there is chemistry between me and the rest of the girls.

Day one, part 2.

My room was at floor eight and had a nice view and I just stood there looking out, drinking German beer planning my Artemis visit. I realized I wouldn't be able to have energy enough at Artemis without having dinner and eating at Artemis wouldn't even cross my mind so I went out in the street and just across there were a pasta restaurant where I had a good meal and a tall glass with what I think is called Weiss Bier? When paying the girl at the desk she tried to hustle me, I gave her a 50 Euro bill (the meal was 13 Euros) and she only gave me 7 Euros back. I asked her where my other 30 Euros were and she quickly gave me the money. I thought about telling some management but felt it would take unnecessary time so I just left. It was clearly thou that she tried to take advantage of me, being a non German and not used to handle Euros.

Back in my room I had a shower, then placed money in both socks and in a money belt. In my pocket 80 Euros and coins for the S-bahn, just like at my previous visit. Also brought a bag with Artemis necessities. Left my passport in the safe, but brought a scanned copy in case of a police raid at the club.

The walk to Zoo-garden took about 10 minutes and was quite nice but once inside the station stress took over. This is really a hellish place to be in. Confusing train maps, confusing ticket machines, unreliable foreigners, pocket thieves etc. Etc. Walked by the machine until there was no line and then placed gloves on my hands. Thanks to Angus I managed to change language to English and bought two tickets which was about 1, 30 Euro each. Left the change. Don't know how but, after about 15 more minutes of wandering, I managed to get on the right train and headed for Westkreuz!

On the train, a homeless person who was clearly high by narcotics came walking down the cabin. He looked at me with scary eyes and had one hand inside of his jacket. This was very unpleasant and at first I didn't know how to handle the situation but because I had nowhere to go I just stared back at him and clenched my fists in my pockets, and guess what, it worked. He went by me and sat down beside a pretty girl, maybe 18 year old, who immediately got up and rushed away to another seat. At Westkreuz I just ran the stairs like it was the final of the 100 m Olympics and got out. Cooled down at the bridge while admiring the small house between the rails and then did the walk of shame but took a short-cut at the backside of the tyre shop and also took a leak between some containers. Didn't spot a single gipsy. It was still early.

At Artemis parking lot seeing the yellow sign must be one of the most beautiful sights in the world, at least one of the most relieving. The lot were crowded with BMW:s and Benzes in the higher price range. One can wonder if they belong to customers or providers?

The door stood open and when I entered I recognized the lady at the front desk but couldn't really place her at first, then realized it was the woman in some kind of documentary about Artemis I've seen somewhere here on the forum. In line, in front of me, there were a tiny Asian guy, looked like a kid, who got the rules explained to him. When paying, the poor guy were shaking like a leaf, it was obvious that this was his first time in an FKK. Probably hadn't done his homework either, reading this forum before heading to Artemis. Of course I was nervous too, but seeing this man somehow boosted my self confidence. When waiting for my turn I saw naked girls walking between the main bar and their change room and one getting paid by a happy monger, man what a great feeling!

When it was my turn I was asked to show my bag so I opened it up and showed her the goods and then paid her the 80 Euros. Got a robe that turned out to be an XXXL and I'm a Large guy (L). Is there other sizes available? When entering the locker room I grabbed a pair of slippers but as they were dripping wet I reached for another pair but they were also wet. Hmmm. Not a nice start but what could I do. It wasn't until later in the evening when I saw one of the old cleaning ladies 'washing' sandals in some kind of beige reservoir just beside the sandal shelves that I realized where the fluid came from. I really hope it was a lot of alcohol in that reservoir and I thanked myself for having taken security preparations.

By the lockers I asked the Asian guy if he was carrying bird flu virus but strangely, considering he probably were a representative for Samsung or something at the messe, he wasn't very good at English and just shook his head. Probably he pretended not to understand. Got my clothes off and placed them in the locker (how come the lockers are so fucking small and L-shaped, Is there different sizes / lockers available?) and then carefully took my socks off and the 1000 Euros inside of them and placed them, together with the additional 500 Euros in my money belt, in a wallet. Then, before stepping in to sandals, I sprayed my feet with liquid band-aid that added a protective layer to the skin. Felt really good. Got the robe on and went to the safe with my money. Now, finally, the fun could begin!

Before my visit I kind of made up a list in my mind of some criterions of the girls I would go too a room with and it basically goes like this.

They have to be / Have to have.

1. Caucasian.

2. Petite.

3. Blonde.

4. Really good tits (silicon or real doesn't matter as long as they look good)

5. Blue eyes.

6. Smooth tanned complexion.

7. Pink lips.

8. Nice teeth.

9. High heels.

10. No hair on forearms (very little hair is OK, if it is blonde)

Once inside Artemis thou, I seemed to black out or something, cause all I could look at, and think about for the first 10 minutues or so was tits. Tits, tits, tits. So my list of criterions simply vanished into the air and my hunt for the girls with perfect tits began. Saw a pair of incredible tits in the main bar but went down to check things out there as well. There weren't too many girls present and not too many customers either, I'the expected it too be worse, considering the IFA messe. Didn't see any girl I would pay money to fuck there so I went upstairs again.

Again, as at my previous visit, a Spanish looking girl approached me, and this time my apprehensions came true. The girl kept calling me 'sweetie' and said 'Maybe you want to start with a Spanish girl? ' I told her that 'Maybe I don't' and was able to get her away from me. What was she thinking? Started searching to find the girl with the amazing rack but couldn't find her. Hmm. Damn it, had I missed her?

Searched everywhere, walked three times around the main bar, looked in the dining room, the kino in the main bar (which I hadn't even seen before) and even behind some drawn curtains at a bed with sandals and some high-heeled shoes outside of it only to see a fat old fart getting a blowjob by a rather large girl. Not a pleasant sight.

Went out to stay by the stair and stood there for about ten minutes or so. Two blonde friends were patrolling the club offering threesomes. Both looked OK but they seemed very sharky and they both had small tits, A or maybe B-cups at the best. One of them were very thin with black stockings, the other one had thin upper body but quite wide hips. I think they went upstairs and back again with two different guys in less than ten minutes and I later saw them doing that all evening. They were literally running, back and forth between their change room, main bar, downstairs, upstairs and the place were the lockers are and the girls are getting paid. Impressive. They must have fucked 50 guys that evening.

When standing there I heard tapping sounds behind me which I hadn't noticed before and turned around. By a game machine a dark-blonde girl with great tanned skin were sitting on a leather bar stool and played some kind of touch-screen game. Was that her? I went up beside her and looked at her tits. Yes! Wow, this girl really had perfect tits. Smooth skinned, natural C or maybe D-cups. I had been standing right behind her for over ten minutes but with my back against hers and she had ignored me. I immediately asked her If she wanted to go to a zimmer and she grabbed her belongings and up we went. She weren't exactly petite but I didn't care. She had some pink lingerie around her hips and pink high heels. Awesome.

In the room I turned up the light as much as possible but the lightning was still poor. Grabbed my 200 ml antiseptic gel bottle and asked her if I could rub her tits with gel and she said Ok but seemed surprised and checked out the gel first. Her tits were amazing, perfectly shaped, perfectly sized, smooth and perfectly tanned, not too dark, not pale. I got a hard on while doing this and she grabbed my dick and gave me compliments about the size. Not that I like to brag, but I'm well over average equipped between my legs and so she noticed. In a hurry I told her I wanted a covered blowjob so she took a condom from her purse and gently placed it on my dick. Then she started sucking and after maybe five minutes I told her to stop or I She told me I could come in her mouth and I responded 'Well, we'll see about that' Started fucking her in missionary and her tits were incredible while laying on her back. Realized I wouldn't be able to hold it back so we changed in to doggy with her facing the mirror and I lasted about five more minutes, including a couple of ten second breaks. She asked again if I wanted to do a CIM but I told her I could come on her amazing tits. Pulled me out of her and she quickly placed her self on her back but not quick enough. I barely got rid of the condom in time and then I lost control of my dick and blowed most of it on the bed, the mirror and on the floor. Thankfully some ended up on her thighs and on her stomach. Not a great finish but OK. When paying her by the lockers I only had 50 Euro bills so I gave her 150 Euros instead of 110. She kissed me good bye and I fondled her breasts a last time. Also asked her about her name and where she came from and she told me her name was Jasmine and that she came from Germany but I don't know what is true. Would recommend this girl to anyone. Don't know her age but she was young, hot and beautiful. Funny thing thou, I don't even remember the colour of her eyes.

Now it was time for a shower. Felt good to clean up but I waited until there where only one more guy in the showers and I used my elbows to handle the mixer tap. Don't want other guys cum on my hands. Used my own shampoo and my own soap and kept the sandals on.

To be continued.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1115841]Hi,

This is a list I made in August based on the performers here. It needs to be updated, but most of the information is still true. I have a similar list for OASE that I am working on. However, if Jackson would allow it, we could have an excel file which all of us can keep updating. It will be the great international sex guide info master list. Currently excel lists cannot be uploaded, so I have converted it into a PDF file, which explains why some remarks get cut off mid way. This means that all the key information is from pages one to five. The rest are identifying details that have been jumbled up when I converted it to a PDF file. However, the key information is intact.

This list served me well and I had three great experiences, avoiding the sharks. See December 2010 report. [/QUOTE]Never been to Artemis, but not a stranger to ISG. Just want to vote in favor of Mr. Styles report, and say lighten up. Sure, his info could be wrong, but so is probably the majority of reports on this board. It's up to all of us to take it or leave it. And if anyone is stupid enough to actually take a copy of the list with him into the club, then he deserves what he gets from the ladies.

I don't see the problem with the list.

Every day chaps post reviews and makes comments about ladies, by name. There are many photos of ladies in highly compromising positions. There are descriptions of bare-back sex and photos of bare-back sex, every form of legal sexual activity is disected, discussed, sliced and diced.

We might find all of this acceptable; but we have to be realistic, the arbiters of general social acceptability would be less than impressed.

Given the at times outrageous out-pourings that regularly appear on ISG; precisely how is this list going to bring the members of ISG into disrepute?

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1115933]There are many photos of ladies in highly compromising positions. There are descriptions of bare-back sex and photos of bare-back sex, every form of legal sexual activity is disected, discussed, sliced and diced.[/QUOTE]I must have missed the bareback-sex reports?

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1115940]I must have missed the bareback-sex reports?

HB[/QUOTE]They are there. There are German establishments that specialise such things. They have been reviewed, discussed and links to websites posted. Don't ask me where exactly, seek and yea shall find. I spotted them, read them, grunted with bemusement and moved on.

Lets face it, we collectively set quite a low moral bar to jump over. A list of Artemis ladies with views and observations is not that shocking is it?

OK, that's another subject, thought you were talking about bareback reports from Artemis.

Sure you can fuck bareback officially at LaLuna / Moers or Dolce Vita / Raubach.

HB

Hi,

Does anyone know what the name of this girl might be? She is Romanian, brown eyes, brown hair, somewhat curly hair, natural body and 22 years old.

I could write a report about my day there later, but I'm afraid it would be a bit depressing and uneventful.

Anyways, would really appreciate if someone could help me with this one.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1115946]OK, that's another subject, thought you were talking about bareback reports from Artemis.

Sure you can fuck bareback officially at LaLuna / Moers or Dolce Vita / Raubach.

HB[/QUOTE]Why mention and discuss those places here? The idiots and morons that want to visit those kind of clubs will find the clubs anyway and I see no reason to supply those people with any info.

B30

Calm down, that info is available on the net. To each his own.

HB

Plus: That there's no or few bareback reports about Artemis or other FKK / Saunaclubs doesn't mean it does not exist.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1115954]Plus: That there's no or few bareback reports about Artemis or other FKK / Saunaclubs doesn't mean it does not exist.

HB[/QUOTE]That is the problem HB. It is getting more and more a trend and pressure is increasing on the girls to go further and further.

The clubs you mention are indeed "officially" BB clubs. . All I hope it will not get normal in other Sauna-FKK clubs.

B30

[QUOTE=Big30;1115955]It is getting more and more a trend and pressure is increasing on the girls to go further and further.[/QUOTE]It has been around since Atlantis days, for years.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1115956]It has been around since Atlantis days, for years.

HB[/QUOTE]Yes, The problem is it is getting more and more a trend and people do not care about it anymore. The fact that is has been around for many years says nothing about the moral perception about it. Crime has also been around as long as mankind was there ... .

[QUOTE=Big30;1115960]Yes, The problem is it is getting more and more a trend and people do not care about it anymore. The fact that is has been around for many years says nothing about the moral perception about it. Crime has also been around as long as mankind was there ... .[/QUOTE]Hi Big30.

I am glad I am not the only one who feels strongly about this subject. However, I fear we may be in a minority. If you read the posts in the PT section you will see that AO lovers are probably dominant on that thread. We now have an AO club listed on this thread.

I don't know that its really getting a lot worse in the mainstream FKKs. It has been a common "manic" upsell in the big three Hessen clubs for as long as I can remember. I would even argue that the situation at World was worse a few years ago, and that the current girls are better behaved than they were. But that could just be chance, and my own more careful preselection.

For some reason, I have been offered AO far less at the major clubs in NRW, and never at GT. Again I don't know if this is significant, or just the luck of the draw.

The (to me) unpalatable reality is that there is a real demand out there, and there will always be girls who are desperate enough to meet that demand, and even to solicit it. Its a fact, and we are stuck with it, whatever our personal views on the subject might be.

PL

[QUOTE=Plover 23; 1115973]Hi Big30.

I am glad I am not the only one who feels strongly about this subject. However, I fear we may be in a minority. If you read the posts in the PT section you will see that AO lovers are probably dominant on that thread. We now have an AO club listed on this thread.

I don't know that its really getting a lot worse in the mainstream FKKs. It has been a common "manic" upsell in the big three Hessen clubs for as long as I can remember. I would even argue that the situation at World was worse a few years ago, and that the current girls are better behaved than they were. But that could just be chance, and my own more careful preselection.

For some reason, I have been offered AO far less at the major clubs in NRW, and never at GT. Again I don't know if this is significant, or just the luck of the draw.

The (to me) unpalatable reality is that there is a real demand out there, and there will always be girls who are desperate enough to meet that demand, and even to solicit it. Its a fact, and we are stuck with it, whatever our personal views on the subject might be.

PL[/QUOTE]Must be me. I have been going to the clubs for a long time and have never been offered AO. It could be the type of girls I choose to go with.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1116042]have never been offered AO. It could be the type of girls I choose to go with.[/QUOTE]Believe me, it's not. I can tell you that you have been with quite a few girls that do offer AO. Not for money. I've NEVER had the situation in a FKK club that a girl actively did offer AO as an extra or upsell.

And. Just use a condom, it's your choice.

HB

[QUOTE=Stifler; 1115947]Hi,

Does anyone know what the name of this girl might be? She is Romanian, brown eyes, brown hair, somewhat curly hair, natural body and 22 years old.

I could write a report about my day there later, but I'm afraid it would be a bit depressing and uneventful.

Anyways, would really appreciate if someone could help me with this one.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Stifler,

Maybe someone else can help you find your girl. The description you give should help. I guess you never remembered her name and never used her name in conversation.

As for your report I think there will be many here who would appreciate your views on the club. It may not be as depressing or uneventful as you may think since there is something to write about.

Also, think on the fact that others can learn from you sharing your story. There is a positive in that which can balance the somewhat negatives that you feel.

I hope that you do write your story Stifler.

Thank you,

What does "AO" stand for?

It's not in the abbreviation section of this site.

It's too short to be searched for.

Googled but found nothing useful.

Yes, did try!

Ciao

Go ahead Stifler,

The purpose of this forum is to exchange views, both positive and negative.

BRGD.

[QUOTE=Stifler; 1115947]Hi,

Does anyone know what the name of this girl might be? She is Romanian, brown eyes, brown hair, somewhat curly hair, natural body and 22 years old.

I could write a report about my day there later, but I'm afraid it would be a bit depressing and uneventful.

Anyways, would really appreciate if someone could help me with this one.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1116113]What does "AO" stand for?

It's not in the abbreviation section of this site.

It's too short to be searched for.

Googled but found nothing useful.

Yes, did try!

Ciao[/QUOTE]Alles Ohne or barback sex. Not for the feint of heart. I was one time perhaps offered it at Artemis. I say perhaps because the girl said something which could have been interpreted as an offer, I was not sure due to my bad German. I just let it slide and covered up. Other than that the girls are scrupulous about condoms at Artemis IME. Of course though one never knows what goes on. I doubt many girls would do it for money though. I always wonder, if she did, what recourse she would have if the punter then refuses to pay. She could not take it to management after all. So I guess if it is offered it is offered only to very well known guests.

Artemis aside, in Berlin there is plenty of bareback sex on offer if one knows where to look and the clues that are used.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1116127]Alles Ohne or barback sex. Not for the feint of heart. I was one time perhaps offered it at Artemis. I say perhaps because the girl said something which could have been interpreted as an offer, I was not sure due to my bad German. I just let it slide and covered up. Other than that the girls are scrupulous about condoms at Artemis IME. Of course though one never knows what goes on. I doubt many girls would do it for money though. I always wonder, if she did, what recourse she would have if the punter then refuses to pay. She could not take it to management after all. So I guess if it is offered it is offered only to very well known guests.

Artemis aside, in Berlin there is plenty of bareback sex on offer if one knows where to look and the clues that are used. [/QUOTE]thanks!

Couple of girls told me that "some other girls" where doing that with regulars at Artemis.

Didn't pay much attention to that.

I won't be surprise if a lot of men are asking for that though.

Beats me.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1116106]Believe me, it's not. I can tell you that you have been with quite a few girls that do offer AO. Not for money. I've NEVER had the situation in a FKK club that a girl actively did offer AO as an extra or upsell.

And. Just use a condom, it's your choice.

HB[/QUOTE]Hi HB,

Your response shocked me, so I have tried to think through whether I have been mistaken.

Since I have never taken up an AO offer, or even done AO in P4P, I must accept I cannot directly vouch what would happen if I accepted such an apparent offer. Also, on this side of the argument, I disagreed with Big30 whether this is a fast growing problem rather than something that has always been in the background. I said that because I have not in the last year, maybe two years, had any offer (in a topflight FKK) that I would construe as an invitation to AO. I have been exposed to such offers at some smaller venues to which I shall not return.

However, even upon reflection, I cannot find any different interpretation.

Firstly, the offer is always slightly ambiguous. Have you ever been offered as part of an upsell that "you can come anywhere you like", or "do you want to come in my ass", or "pussy"? The latter option gives it away since, if covered, this would obviously be included in a normal session.

An obvious example that you may know is of Gabriella "from Greece" at World a while ago. Her blatant upselling could not be construed in any other way. For me, it turned the session into a very unpleasant experience. A short while after my session with her there was a report on here by an American who had a session with a girl that matched both her physical description and MO. Unlike me, he thought it was Christmas: described graphically how he splurged in her ass; and thought he had a bargain for the €500 or whatever he paid her. There is a more recent report here of a girl being ejected from World having conducted a public bareback session in the kino. If she thought she could get away with bareback in public, can you imagine that she would be more restrained in private?

It is hard to draw general conclusions, because the codewords and cues are not usually explicit, and since it is not discussed, it is just chance (and judgment) whether one ends up in a session with a girl of this ilk.

I have tried to give a balanced response. This is a touchy subject between those (the probable majority on this thread) who dislike AO, and those (a sizeable number of the neighbouring thread) who are actively seeking this service.

So, I shall shut up now.

Have Fun,

PL

January's MIA (Monger I Admire) is finally posted. Have a look.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=705[/url]

AM

"I don't understand. You've been to Artemis once and you are submitting a list with votes on what. 100 girls?

I really feel this is totally useless and must agree with what Angus and B30 said.

Ciao "

and comments like Angus or B30


For cryin out loud!

This LIST is NOT for someone to WALK AROUND WITH! You have to take the effort to learn it (a bit of effort, but worth it) and then be remarkably polite to those whom you know are sharks. You can just learn the list of sharks, or as I did, both the sharks and the star performers. This tactic has worked for me. I dont know about the rest of you, but personally, I would rather buy a bottle of fine whiskey tthan give 60 euros to a girl for half an hour of lifeless sex. If a shark approaches you, you just politely decline. It is just a guideline not a fail safe list. NEVER, and I cant stress this enough, treat any girl badly!

It just summarises the information on this board. Of course I HAVE NOT slept with all the girls..............I just went through all the reports posted here diligently, and made an excel sheet based on all the information. The comments are cut and pasted from this board, including the comments of Angus!

SORRY PLEASE IGNORE THE REVISED ALPHABETICAL LIST. ALL THE INFORMATION IS JUMBLED UP. PLEASE USE THE ORIGINAL LIST. Please remember it is a guideline, but if someone like Lynn, or Naomi, or Isabella has sharked multiple times based on reports here, it is not likely that you are going to be the first that she is really nice with.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1116263]"I don't understand. You've been to Artemis once and you are submitting a list with votes on what. 100 girls?

I really feel this is totally useless and must agree with what Angus and B30 said.

Ciao "

And comments like Angus or B30.

For cryin out loud!

This LIST is NOT for someone to WALK AROUND WITH! You have to take the effort to learn it (a bit of effort, but worth it) and then be remarkably polite to those whom you know are sharks. You can just learn the list of sharks, or as I did, both the sharks and the star performers. This tactic has worked for me. I don't know about the rest of you, but personally, I would rather buy a bottle of fine whiskey that give it to a girl for half an hour of lifeless sex. If a shark approaches you, you just politely decline. It is just a guideline not a fail safe list. NEVER, and I can't stress this enough, treat any girl badly!

It just summarises the information on this board. Of course I HAVE NOT slept with all the girls. I just went through all the reports posted here diligently, and made an excel sheet based on all the information. The comments are cut and pasted from this board, including the comments of Angus!

Finally, in the revised list, I have tabulated the data in alphabetical order. Please remember it is a guideline, but if someone like Lynn, or Naomi, or Isabella has sharked multiple times based on reports here, it is not likely that you are going to be the first that she is really nice with. [/QUOTE]Read a few of the comments and info on the girls and IMO the list is crap!

Copy and pasting with no criteria or not balancing the context is useless, IMO.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1116263]For cryin out loud!

This LIST is NOT for someone to WALK AROUND WITH! You have to take the effort to learn it (a bit of effort, but worth it) and then be remarkably polite to those whom you know are sharks. You can just learn the list of sharks, or as I did, both the sharks and the star performers. This tactic has worked for me. I don't know about the rest of you, but personally, I would rather buy a bottle of fine whiskey tthan give 60 euros to a girl for half an hour of lifeless sex. If a shark approaches you, you just politely decline. It is just a guideline not a fail safe list. NEVER, and I can't stress this enough, treat any girl badly!

It just summarises the information on this board. Of course I HAVE NOT slept with all the girls. I just went through all the reports posted here diligently, and made an excel sheet based on all the information. The comments are cut and pasted from this board, including the comments of Angus!

Finally, in the revised list, I have tabulated the data in alphabetical order. Please remember it is a guideline, but if someone like Lynn, or Naomi, or Isabella has sharked multiple times based on reports here, it is not likely that you are going to be the first that she is really nice with. [/QUOTE]Sorry if my judgement seemed harsh Mr Styles. I guess what I worry about is things taken out of context. By this I mean that in a written report one gets a sense of the writer and this helps me to put some context with judgements made about the girls. In a spread sheet all of that context is gone and the girls become names on a list. For me this in itself has a flavour of treating the girls as statistics rather than as human beings and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

This is the nature of my objection.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1116275]Sorry if my judgement seemed harsh Mr Styles. I guess what I worry about is things taken out of context. By this I mean that in a written report one gets a sense of the writer and this helps me to put some context with judgements made about the girls. In a spread sheet all of that context is gone and the girls become names on a list. For me this in itself has a flavour of treating the girls as statistics rather than as human beings and leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

This is the nature of my objection.

AM[/QUOTE]I have no intention at all of treating the girls like statistics. However, I feel many who venture into an FKK for the first time are sharked, and this creates a bad impression, not to mention a considerable financial loss. An ideal way to use the information would be to decide on a few girls, and then look them up on the board, so that one can make a balanced judgement. With the search function that should be easy. Once in the club, treat the girls as a gentleman would, and treat the girl you choose as your girlfriend. This should dramatically increase the odds of having a good time.

Currently, given the treasure trove of information that this board is, it takes weeks to go through all the reports as I did. This list (Reminder USE THE ORIGINAL LIST, NOT THE ALPHABETICAL ONE) should make that easy.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles; 1116277]I have no intention at all of treating the girls like statistics. However, I feel many who venture into an FKK for the first time are sharked, and this creates a bad impression, not to mention a considerable financial loss. An ideal way to use the information would be to decide on a few girls, and then look them up on the board, so that one can make a balanced judgement. With the search function that should be easy. Once in the club, treat the girls as a gentleman would, and treat the girl you choose as your girlfriend. This should dramatically increase the odds of having a good time.

Currently, given the treasure trove of information that this board is, it takes weeks to go through all the reports as I did. This list (Reminder USE THE ORIGINAL LIST, NOT THE ALPHABETICAL ONE) should make that easy. [/QUOTE]We are probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one Mr. S. And as a Canuck myself isn't that how we do things in that country? All I can say is when I put myself in the position of the girls, I would not enjoy being "listed".

I might add-my second session at Artemis ever was a classic sharking. Well, maybe barracuda would be a better sea creature to compare her to. While losing the hundred or so euros was a b i t c h I sure learned my lesson in that session. I am not saying guys should be sharked, but it is a fact of FKK life that not every girl is service oriented. An experience such as this is part of the FKK education I would not have done without as I look back at it. Since that experienced I have had a few lack luster sessions. But never again was I blatantly taken for a rube.

Anyway-kudos for the effort you no doubt put into the spread sheet. Maybe some guys will like it. I myself though feel the need to voice my objection to such lists and voice my opinion that they ultimately take away from making the monger a stronger predator.

AM

[QUOTE=Mr Styles;1116277]Once in the club, treat the girls as a gentleman would, and treat the girl you choose as your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]This I like!

Anyway Mr Styles, I understand what you are saying about the correct use of the list, although I find stuff like this kills any kind of "poetry" can remain in an FKK visit.

But this is personal.

What I'm saying is that, knowing quite a few of the girls on the list and knowing the opinions of some people I trust about other girls on the list (that I didn't personally session with) I find the data to be curious at the least.

Issue closed on my side.

Ciao

[font=tahoma]I don't understand all the consternation regarding this guy's ([b]Mr Styles[/b]) hooker list.

If wannabe mongers want to run around [b]Artemis[/b] with lists of hooker names indicating which are the good, the bad, and the ugly in prostitute paradise, well good for them.

Oh you can forget about memorising these lists, few of us mongers have the time or the patience. I have heard tales of guys running around Hessen FKKs with similar lists compiled by sex forum list makers. The potential problem that such a list makers has is that he may become associated with the list himself. If a fellow monger (or mischief maker) points him out to one of the lovely ladies who did not make the good list, the List Maker could become very unpopular, very very quickly! But hey buddy, thanks for the lists, I'll bring them with me when next I vist [b]Artemis[/b] ;)[/font]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1116282]We are probably going to have to agree to disagree on this one Mr. S. And as a Canuck myself isn't that how we do things in that country? All I can say is when I put myself in the position of the girls, I would not enjoy being "listed".

I might add-my second session at Artemis ever was a classic sharking. Well, maybe barracuda would be a better sea creature to compare her to. While losing the hundred or so euros was a be I t see h I sure learned my lesson in that session. I am not saying guys should be sharked, but it is a fact of FKK life that not every girl is service oriented. An experience such as this is part of the FKK education I would not have done without as I look back at it. Since that experienced I have had a few lack luster sessions. But never again was I blatantly taken for a rube.

Anyway-kudos for the effort you no doubt put into the spread sheet. Maybe some guys will like it. I myself though feel the need to voice my objection to such lists and voice my opinion that they ultimately take away from making the monger a stronger predator.

AM[/QUOTE]I don't understand. What exactly makes a thread like this alright but a list which is basically just this thread but all the BS posts thrown out so bad?

You mention putting yourself in the girls' shoes and not liking being on a list, but if that were true wouldn't you feel the same way about having a bad report about yourself on a thread?

Another thing I don't understand is why should someone need to take any lumps? I went to a FKK got sharked my first day, and even after taking my lumps and thinking I learned something I still got sharked at least once a day. Lets face it these girls are hustlers and they will charm you outside the room, but inside the room this is where you finally see them for the type of provider they really are. Sure if you go to a club often enough and know just about everybody you'll quickly learn who the sharks are, but for those who visit so few times lists like these are a wallet saver.

Personally I feel like providing is their job. In my job I get reviewed and have a performance grade level. I'm able to live with it so they should be able to as well. If not then they are pretty much going to hate alot of jobs out there.

I can't open the list.

Is that only possible with a payment membership?

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn; 1116617]I can't open the list.

Is that only possible with a payment membership? [/QUOTE]No, anyone can open the list. You need to register, and be a member of the site however.

And remember don't take the alphabetical list.

[QUOTE=Mr Styles;1116714]No, anyone can open the list. You need to register, and be a member of the site however.[/QUOTE]I do not think this is correct. If you register right now you can't open attachment without paying the subsciption fee. Or am I wrong?

HB

Ok, since I haven't before been to any place like this nor have I before paid for sex its quite hard to make any kind of comparisons. English isn't my first language so the text will probably be flawed.

Anyways, I arrived at Artemis by S-Bahn at about 15:30. Somewhat nervous as I arrived at the reception desk but that went away quite fast after showering and change into robe.

Artemis wasn't the reason for me coming to Berlin but rather just a day where I wanted to come away from reality since a recent heartbreak (in lack of better word). I wasn't sure that I would do anything but smoke a ton of cigarettes and hang.

The quite recent love mishap has made me a bit hesitant of beginning to date again and pretty much makes you make certain strange and self destructive things, in my case I deeply inside me knew I would leave there with a bitter taste. But my curiosity and complete block about how I might feel about myself later made me go anyway.

There wasn't that many men when I arrived, but a few ladies. Most of the good looking. Wandering around like it was totally normal for them (it probably is) , which made a whole atmosphere of normality. I first went in to the bar to get a beer where I immediately was approached by a black woman (only one I later saw managing to get some guy buying her champagne) whom I politely told perhaps later (which would be my mantra this night). She looked a bit angry but eventually walked off.

Soon after I was approached by a Romanian girl (the one I asked for what her name was) and she started talking and I was a bit surprised by her seeming like an intelligent / attractive normal girl, I thought most conversations would be like "want a blow job and fuck" which pretty much removes any kind of emotional bonding between two people. However, I hadn't really settled in nor really come to terms of me being there, so I told her perhaps later when settled in.

What followed was quite a few hours of me smoking 2. 5 pack of cigarettes plus a few beers and endless amount of water (because of smoking) sitting by the bar mostly, and the only room I went to was the bathroom to get rid of all this water (and I also noticed that it was only like one out of ten who washed their hans after being on the toilet, what up with that?). During this time there was a lot of girls that went up and started talking (mostly romanians who were really nice and attractive) but I tried to cut it short since I wasn't really getting on in this environment, it was too much of a meat market for me plus I reacted badly at how some people there were (some of the other seemed like quite good guys, so I'm not making any judgement on them). It was an really unpleasant feeling though to see them walk off with one you knew was an asshole. I just hope they had the decency / intelligence (which I don't really think since they were idiots) to at least treat the girls good. This is one thing I'm now after my visit still really bothered with.

Anyways, a lot later from me coming there the place was quite packed and I was really thinking of calling it a quit but I thought that if I saw that second girl I would perhaps give it a try (also knowing that I would feel bad about it later). Well I did't had to wait that long since she approached me from the back not long afterwards. I said sure, just had to smoke up my cigarette first. Off we went, but the rooms were full so we talked a bit more, again, a really nice girl. At this time I started becoming anxious and nervous (my normal self is quite calm and not as neurotic as this text might imply, I was a emotional wreck at this time) but not in a way that could be seen that much outwardly, I believe.

Here she told me that she was 22 and some other things, I don't want to go into specifics, and it hit me that since I'm just about her age (mid twenties) and coming from a quite a good and safe upbringing there was something there (hard to explain) that made me feel not so good. She would be the kind of girl that I would date both personality wise and looks.

I look ok myself. But I think that as a young guy (not having done anything like this before) you're in a dating mode where you just ask girls out that you find attractive / interesting. This is not a place for that and I guess you have to learn how to shut some mental reactions off. Anyways, a big room got available and I felt nervous and had the guilt trip of my life, but couldn't just go away since that would probably make her think about what went wrong. She didn't upsell (or what its called) and nothing bad at all except for my performance, which I tried to make quick so she didn't loose any more time. I pretty much rushed out afterwards. In "real life" of course I would have enjoyed it more.

I paid her and went to take a shower. Going back into the bar she stood by the opening and didn't look at me / looking down as I walked by (not 100% that if it was meant or that she just didn't notice, hard not to since well she stood there trying to get new customers) and this was pretty much the last and biggest drop that made me feel shittier than I think ever before. And still one week after do feel.

Stayed a couple of hours more and then left at 03:20 something.

[QUOTE=Stifler; 1115947]Hi,

Does anyone know what the name of this girl might be? She is Romanian, brown eyes, brown hair, somewhat curly hair, natural slim body and 22 years old.

I could write a report about my day there later, but I'm afraid it would be a bit depressing and uneventful.

Anyways, would really appreciate if someone could help me with this one.

Thanks[/QUOTE]don't think I will go back but if anyone knows her name it wouldn't hurt to have it.

I'm not in any way making judgement on you guys who treat these ladies well, but to those of you who don't I honestly think you're the lowest of the lowest in this world.

Forget that I asked for her name, don't post it if you know.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1116825]I do not think this is correct. If you register right now you can't open attachment without paying the subsciption fee. Or am I wrong?

HB[/QUOTE]I have the same feeling.

[QUOTE=Bluat; 1116353]I don't understand. What exactly makes a thread like this alright but a list which is basically just this thread but all the BS posts thrown out so bad?

Sure if you go to a club often enough and know just about everybody you'll quickly learn who the sharks are, but for those who visit so few times lists like these are a wallet saver. [/QUOTE]I'm getting confused about this furore about that guy's list.

I pretty much agree with the suggestions above.

However most of the opposing views come from people on this forum that I respect and normally find myself in agreement with about most issues of P4P ethics.

What am I missing here?

Charlie

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1116253]January's MIA (Monger I Admire) is finally posted. Have a look.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=705[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Not sure if I should say thank you but I do so anyway.

Norjan, with new flight tickets to Berlin in his mailbox

Charlie, I can't forget the lap dance incident.

Was / Is there music in the rooms? I have'nt thought about that cause my focus have been elsewhere once in a room.

What does she look like, your performer?

Norjan, with new flift tickets to Berlin in my mailbox

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1117043]I'm getting confused about this furore about that guy's list.

I pretty much agree with the suggestions above.

However most of the opposing views come from people on this forum that I respect and normally find myself in agreement with about most issues of P4P ethics.

What am I missing here?

Charlie[/QUOTE]

I think the senior members do not like the way that person is treating women. Lists suggests that women are commodities to be bought and sold. In some ways this dehumanizes them and in other ways it is highly disrespectful. One of the first things you learn about lists is that it is very difficult to associate a name with a girl. Most look pretty similar if you just go by color of hair and tit size. So, that means you have to go around asking lots of girls their name and where they are from. Then you reject them until you "find" your target. Nothing makes you look like a Neaderthal than that. Have a little sophistication or meet up with a senior member who can subtlely point you out some good girls. Then learn to have a bit of charm and game. As the saying goes, you can give a man a fish or teach him how to fish.

The other thing about lists is that the best girls are often never mentioned here. Who likes his favorite to be monopolized by a bunch of newbies? On the other hand, girls with bad reputations are also not reported because some guys don't feel a need to retaliate. So, lists do not help in all circumstances. Finally, there is no sure thing. You just have to invest a few Euros. You will find some gems, but also a few duds. That is the nature of the game. If you can't afford a few misses, then you really should not be in this game.

Hi, thank you for all the good information on this forum.

I have quite a few questions about Artemis:

I see some of you guys are mentioning taking with you "your stuff"/"bringing your bag" to Artemis.

The girls got all the sex stuff of course (condoms, lube.).

So I'm wondering, what should one bring to Artemis / an FKK club?

I'm thinking of perfume, mints for your breath maybe etc. Would be nice to freshen up in between session you know.

Q: Any suggestions / tips about stuff to bring?

Q: When is lingerie nights? (it doesn't say on their page, but am I correct about every Wednesday?).

Q: Payment. Have I understood it correct if one agrees upon a price before or during a session with a girl and when done both walk together to your "money-locker" (which is a different one than where you have your clothes) and payment is done here?

Q: Are there any place where one can withdraw and maybe even taking a nap?

Q: To those who have been there a couple of times, besides being clean and fresh, are there any special hygiene precosions one should take? Because Norjan is making me nervous.

Q: The fitness room. I like to keep in shape and if I'm going to be there for a whole day I'm thinking of spending some time here. Are there any girls using this room? Can one ask a girl of choice to join for a little workout and end up in a session here? That would fulfill a fantasy or two.

Q: What's the price for a VIP suite? How does one arrange a session with 2-3 girls in here?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Turn Around;1117335]Q: Any suggestions / tips about stuff to bring?[/QUOTE]There isn't really anything crucial. Deodorant+Parfum sounds like a nice idea that I should give a try to. But, if you just be sensible and take a thorough shower after every session of sex / sauna / exercise, you should be fine. You could of course use mint, if you're smoking. And chocolate can be quite useful both to get sugar into your system (as they don't offer sweets in the dining room) and to offer a girl to score some extra points.

[QUOTE]Q: When is lingerie nights? (it doesn't say on their page, but am I correct about every Wednesday?).[/QUOTE]Every Wednesday.

[QUOTE]Q: Payment. Have I understood it correct if one agrees upon a price before or during a session with a girl and when done both walk together to your "money-locker" (which is a different one than where you have your clothes) and payment is done here?[/QUOTE]The prices are standard and you don't really need negotiate about them, though you could ask the girl beforehand just make sure how things work.

I personally keep all my stuff including my wallet in the less secure clothing lockers, so that I count my money (and maybe add a tip if I feel like it) without the girl waiting / watching behind me. Also, I tend to forget things and I'm sure I would forget to get my wallet and phone from the second locker while leaving.

[QUOTE]Q: Are there any place where one can withdraw and maybe even taking a nap?[/QUOTE]There isn't a truly private place to take a nap, but the downstairs floor has many places suitable for a power nap.

[QUOTE]Q: To those who have been there a couple of times, besides being clean and fresh, are there any special hygiene precosions one should take? Because Norjan is making me nervous.[/QUOTE]Norjan certainly seems to take things a little to the extreme, though there isn't anything wrong with being extra careful.

I would just suggest, as I said before, taking a thorough shower between every sort of activity. Some men seem to be not very comfortable with being naked around other men and therefore may tend to avoid full showering as much as they can. If you are like that, try to get over it. How do I know this? I used to be like that a few years ago. Having started to be completely comfortable with it, I can say it makes a very big difference in both enjoying the club (feeling completely refreshed and clean certainly boosts your enthusiasm) and getting a better experience with the girls.

[QUOTE]Q: The fitness room. I like to keep in shape and if I'm going to be there for a whole day I'm thinking of spending some time here. Are there any girls using this room? Can one ask a girl of choice to join for a little workout and end up in a session here? That would fulfill a fantasy or two.[/QUOTE]I heard many girls mentioning they do exercise in the fitness room, but don't count on seeing any girl doing much of an exercise during opening hours, especially later in the day. I have never asked a girl to do exercise with me, but my guess is that she wouldn't want to get tired and lose her make-up and hair styling during work. Though, just having sex in the fitness room may be possible. Most girls don't have any problem with doing it in public and the only possible problem I can think of may arise if sex is prohibited in the fitness room, like it is in the downstairs lounge area.

[QUOTE]Q: What's the price for a VIP suite? How does one arrange a session with 2-3 girls in here?[/QUOTE]No idea on that.

Also, make sure to have a look at the Artemis Guide by Angus at.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=690[/url]

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1117046]Charlie, I can't forget the lap dance incident.

Was / Is there music in the rooms? I have'nt thought about that cause my focus have been elsewhere once in a room.

What does she look like, your performer?

Norjan, with new flift tickets to Berlin in my mailbox[/QUOTE]Hi,

It really was just one of those spur-of-the moment things, and as such it was sexy and fun. The girl's name is Gabizca from Hungary, early 20's, quite short, cute roundish face with a tiny stud just above her upper lip, large and slightly pendulous breasts, speaks good English. It should be easy enough to track her down. She was there this week.

Yes, there is piped music in the rooms. Not as loud as in the bar area, but sufficient to act as an adequate backing track for any gyrations that you might elicit from your companion.

Alternatively, I am there most weeks during the midweek period; if you would like me to point her out to you then just pm me with your attendance details and we'll arrange to meet.

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Akibono; 1117104]I think the senior members do not like the way that person is treating women. Lists suggests that women are commodities to be bought and sold. In some ways this dehumanizes them and in other ways it is highly disrespectful. One of the first things you learn about lists is that it is very difficult to associate a name with a girl. Most look pretty similar if you just go by color of hair and tit size. So, that means you have to go around asking lots of girls their name and where they are from. Then you reject them until you "find" your target. Nothing makes you look like a Neaderthal than that. Have a little sophistication or meet up with a senior member who can subtlely point you out some good girls. Then learn to have a bit of charm and game. As the saying goes, you can give a man a fish or teach him how to fish.

The other thing about lists is that the best girls are often never mentioned here. Who likes his favorite to be monopolized by a bunch of newbies? On the other hand, girls with bad reputations are also not reported because some guys don't feel a need to retaliate. So, lists do not help in all circumstances. Finally, there is no sure thing. You just have to invest a few Euros. You will find some gems, but also a few duds. That is the nature of the game. If you can't afford a few misses, then you really should not be in this game.[/QUOTE]thanks for the response. I understand your point about waving lists ostentatiously around the bar area. That would be somewhat gauche. But surely a discreetly monitored crib-sheet highlighting the recommendations of a few proven judges from this forum wouldn't do any harm? I have employed similar tactics in the past without feeling that I was dehumanising the ladies.

C

[QUOTE=Norjan;1115924]Now it was time for a shower. Felt good to clean up but I waited until there where only one more guy in the showers and I used my elbows to handle the mixer tap. Don't want other guys cum on my hands. Norjan[/QUOTE]This was a terrific report, Norjan, thanks.

This penultimate paragraph of your report made me laugh. I thought I was a hygiene freak! You are on another level, man!

I'm also not in a hurry to be in contact with other men's fluids however conveyed, but worrying about coming into contact with a faint residue of cum from the shower thermostat after spending 90 minutes licking a prostitute's well-fucked pussy or DFK'ing her 30 minutes after she just took a huge load in her mouth? I suggest to you that the temperature control in the showers is not the gravest danger spot in the house when it comes to the threat of encountering male semen.

Anyway, it just seemed comic to me because I could identify with both the mania about semen-contact and the illogic of practising it minutes after willingly ingesting spoonfuls of the stuff straight off some brass's body.

Best,

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1117365]thanks for the response. I understand your point about waving lists ostentatiously around the bar area. That would be somewhat gauche. But surely a discreetly monitored crib-sheet highlighting the recommendations of a few proven judges from this forum wouldn't do any harm? I have employed similar tactics in the past without feeling that I was dehumanising the ladies.

C[/QUOTE]Ciao Charlie.

My point was not about dehumanising, although this kind of scientific approach does take some "poetry" away from the game, but was more on the quality and the criteria of putting together the list.

Not all reports are the same, not all reporters are the same. If you copy / paste having never met any of the girls involved, having visited the place once, and knowing probably very little of the writers you can't avoid big mistakes.

And the lists becomes of little use. You risk loosing some gems just because they are colored in red and vice versa.

I prefer taking my risks, as you know.

But again, it's personal and it's lovely. Ahah.

I'll think about it on Tuesday / wed, by the pool.

Yessssssssss!

All the best!

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1117369]This was a terrific report, Norjan, thanks.

This penultimate paragraph of your report made me laugh. I thought I was a hygiene freak! You are on another level, man!

I'm also not in a hurry to be in contact with other men's fluids however conveyed, but worrying about coming into contact with a faint residue of cum from the shower thermostat after spending 90 minutes licking a prostitute's well-fucked pussy or DFK'ing her 30 minutes after she just took a huge load in her mouth? I suggest to you that the temperature control in the showers is not the gravest danger spot in the house when it comes to the threat of encountering male semen.

Anyway, it just seemed comic to me because I could identify with both the mania about semen-contact and the illogic of practising it minutes after willingly ingesting spoonfuls of the stuff straight off some brass's body.

Best,

C[/QUOTE]It is quite ironic that the person who is afraid of germs ends of spraying his spunk all over the room. Then on top of that he insults both the german theke and the asia guest. Meanwhile he is the one pissing in the bushes. Priceless!

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1117365]thanks for the response. I understand your point about waving lists ostentatiously around the bar area. That would be somewhat gauche. But surely a discreetly monitored crib-sheet highlighting the recommendations of a few proven judges from this forum wouldn't do any harm? I have employed similar tactics in the past without feeling that I was dehumanising the ladies.

C[/QUOTE]No harm in memorizing a few names, but how will you find them-especially since the best seldom spend alot of time walking the floors. I follow a general rule: never go to a club expecting to find a particular woman.

The big problem with lists is they reflect someone elses taste. Some people like aggressive girls, others only care about looks, and still others want a passionate experience. So, what one person rates as good, another finds abhorant. Plus, girls are different on different days. There just isn't as fine a line as you think. One of the best clues is to watch the girls that go with the older germans. Those guys are there all the time, they don't put up with non-sense, and know all the girls. No list needed.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1117376]Ciao Charlie.

My point was not about dehumanising, although this kind of scientific approach does take some "poetry" away from the game, but was more on the quality and the criteria of putting together the list. [/QUOTE]I vote we put this topic to bed. But Kimino sums it up best. Nothing terribly wrong with the spread sheet save that it lacks poetry. I guess some of us have a more, admittedly misguided perhaps, sense of the poetry of FKK style mongering. But if having a spread sheet in your locker helps you, go for it.

[QUOTE=Kimino;1117376]I'll think about it on Tuesday / wed, by the pool.[/QUOTE]Wish I could be there with you. Maybe we could set up a white board by the stairs and do a live streamed internet play by play using your smart phone.

AM

[QUOTE=Stifler; 1116978]What followed was quite a few hours of me smoking 2. 5 pack of cigarettes plus a few beers and endless amount of water (because of smoking) sitting by the bar mostly, and the only room I went to was the bathroom to get rid of all this water (and I also noticed that it was only like one out of ten who washed their hans after being on the toilet, what up with that?). [/QUOTE, ]

I've seen this too. And worse.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Turn Around; 1117335]Q: To those who have been there a couple of times, besides being clean and fresh, are there any special hygiene precosions one should take? Because Norjan is making me nervous.

Thank you! [/QUOTE]I bring two bottles of antiseptic gel and liquid band-aid among other things.

The place is, of course, swarming with bacteriums because hundereds (thousands?) of sex acts are taking place there daily and the girl you go with maybe have been with 20 other guys that very same day. I've read reports from people that go there even when carrying flu virus etc. And, also people with STD:s are going there.

Have this in mind when planning your visit.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1117364]Hi,

It really was just one of those spur-of-the moment things, and as such it was sexy and fun. The girl's name is Gabizca from Hungary, early 20's, quite short, cute roundish face with a tiny stud just above her upper lip, large and slightly pendulous breasts, speaks good English. It should be easy enough to track her down. She was there this week.

Yes, there is piped music in the rooms. Not as loud as in the bar area, but sufficient to act as an adequate backing track for any gyrations that you might elicit from your companion.

Alternatively, I am there most weeks during the midweek period; if you would like me to point her out to you then just pm me with your attendance details and we'll arrange to meet.

Best,

Charlie[/QUOTE]OK, sounds good.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Akibono;1117440]It is quite ironic that the person who is afraid of germs ends of spraying his spunk all over the room. Then on top of that he insults both the german theke and the asia guest. Meanwhile he is the one pissing in the bushes. Priceless![/QUOTE]Insults? The asian guy? For asking him about the bird flu?

The german theke? What does that mean / what do you mean? I don't understand.

Norjan

If you're afraid of germs, unhygienic men and women. Stay away from paysex. There's a risk, life's a risk. As Keynes said: In the long run we are all dead. Let's have some fun before. No risk, no fun.

HB

Last winter I had to cancel two trips to NRW just because of all the snow. This year I wanted to be on the safe side and decided to make a trip that would not involve any driving. My choice fell upon Berlin and Artemis. I'm glad I made that decision, because I had two great days at Artemis.

First of all let me thank all of you who have written so much useful information on ISG and its Artemis-forum. I like to prepare myself before almost anything I do. I must say that reading the whole Artemis-thread for 2010 was a entertaining way to make preparations. One of the things that my reading gave was a "list" of nine girls that had many many good reviews. I made a deal with myselt that if I was lucky enough to bump into any one of them in Artemis I would give that girl a go.

[B]Day 1. [/B]

I arrived at Artemis at 14:00. I got a friendly greeting, but a very brief information, at the reception.

My plan was spend the first hour in Artemis just looking around, visit the sauna, eat something, hang at the bar, and not go to a room with the first girl who offered her services.

My plan failed completely! A few minutes after I sat down at the bar a girl with long blonde hair came up and started talking to me. She gave me very good vibes but I had my plan and was going to decline her invitation. Then she told me her name, [B]Marketa[/B], and I changed my mind immediately. Marketa is one of the girls that have many fans here at ISG, and I did not want to miss such a chance to get a good start of the weekend.

Our session was very good. Marketa is very professional and gave me exactly what I needed. Marketa was also very friendly every time we met in the club during my two days there. She would also, later, introduce me to one of my top experiences in this hobby.

After our session, I grabbed some food, and then spent a long time in the bio-sauna and then took a nap in one of the loungers by the pool. In the sauna I talked to a food salesman. He traveled around Europe and sold food, in the evenings he went clubbing. Now he was in Berlin for two days, after that he would go to Zurich. I offered to switch jobs with him. He did not accept my offer! Speaking of food,

I asked a German man in the sauna if he had any good advice to me regarding Artemis. His reply was that I should avoid a visit during the fruit-fair. Apparently, fruit merchants are a horny bunch of people who fills up Artemis to the brim every year. This German man had actually managed to get back his entrance fee back during last year's fruit-fair. He had unsuspecting gone to Artemis. When he came up to security boxes, he was was facing a wall of polar bears. He then turned to the reception and asked to get his entrace fee back. He got his money and went home and did not visit Artemis until the fruit-fair was over.

As I laid by the pool a dark-haired beauty came and sat next to me in the recliner. She asked if I wanted some company. I told her that I had just been in a room and that I needed a rest. I asked her her name. [B]Nina[/B]. Yes, a other star of the club that I had come in contact with. I told her that I wanted to go to a room with her some other time. She smiled and left me.

Dinner was fairly good. Meat, pasta and peas. Totally OK. I was joined at the table by two Thai girls. They smiled, said a few short phrases, and then devoted themselves to the food. Both were incredibly sweet. One was very slim and had long hair that was dark brown. The other had a slightly wider face, beautiful and black hair.

I left them and took a walk in the club. Visited the porn cinemas, checked out the gym and then I rested at the pool. After a while the two Thai girls came down to the relax-area. The thin girl seated herself at the bar, the black-haired beauty went into the 90-degree sauna. I followed and sat beside her and we started talking. Her name sounded something like [B]Sukanya[/B]. Does anyone know who she is, and if I got her name right?

She told me she only works at Artemis for a few days a week. Her day job is at a Thai massage parlor. She was very nice and when we showered together after the sauna, I got signals from my lower regions that I ought to get to know her a little bit closer in a room.

She told me that she was going home, but said that I could be her last customer of the day.

We had a nice time in one of the rooms in the basement. I do not like the basement rooms really. I do not care if others hear when I fuck. But I like to keep the talk before and after the sessions private. S was more of the PSE than GFE. She was really into details, I don't think my balls has ever been so well taken care of in a bed. The only drawback was that it was obvious that she was going home. When we were done with the job in bed, the session was over. I would have liked to have stayed for a while to talk and rest, but she wanted to leave. Who can blame her, I also wants to go home when my working day is over. I hope I can repeat with her somer other time.

After a brief sauna and a coffea in the bar I returned to my hotel to sleep.

[B]Day 2. [/B]

I had decided that I would do a two-part visit to Artemis on this day. I wanted to get a break to do some sightseeing. I arrived at 12:30, not much people. The car park was nearly empty. I had a coffee at the bar. Looking out over the room I could see that there were not many girls present that I actually was interested in. On the way out from the bar I saw Marketa sitting and talking with a woman who was one of the most beautiful girls I'v ever seen in a club. Marketa smiled at me and I walked over to them. When I got there, the other woman turned away to politely leave me and Marketa to ourselves. Damn. Marketa wondered if I wanted her company. I told her that I had just arrived and that I was not planning to do a session right now.

Half an hour later I was relaxing at the pool after a sauna when Marketa and her dark haired friend came into the relax-area. I looked briefly at them and smiled and then closed my eyes and tried to rest. After half a minute someone sat down next to me in my lounge chair. It was the dark-haired friend to Marketa. She asked if I wanted company. I knew right away that I did. She is one of those few women who I fall for directly. I asked her name and realized by the answer that I probably had managed to pull yet another "winning ticket". My name is [B]Fatima[/B], she said. I got a hard on by just looking at her and thinking that in just a few minutes I would get the opportunity to touch that stunning body. It's a strange feeling to walk two staircases in a club with full erection! I'm sorry I will not go into details about our session. I can only say that it became an absolute top experience. Fatima is stunning in everything she does, on top of that she is divinely beautiful. I was exhausted an hour later, and happy, very happy!

It was time for some sight-seeing. On my way out I met Nina. She was standing next to the safty-boxes, talking in her mobilphone. She smiled at me with recognition. I waited until she had finished her phone-call and then went up to her. She was working until 02:00 that night and I told her that I would be back in a few hours and that we should try to meet later in the evening. She smiled and said OK.

I took the subway to Friedrichstrasse and walked around a bit in Berlin. It was cold. I watched an auction, and visited the Mercedes showroom on Unter den Linden. When I was at Brandenburg Gate I saw a bus full of Artemis advertising all over the side. I then realized that I was in the wrong place in Berlin and took the S-bahn back to Artemis.

I was very cold when I arrived at Artemis. I needed a sauna. Afterwards I sat in the bar and talked to first Conchetta and later with Elena. Both obviously wanted to visit a room with me. I myself wanted to save my energy for Nina. Elena was very disappointed in how business was going. She had planned a week in the Artemis, but now she said she would go home to Hamburg just after three days.

At five o'clock I was hungry and decided to rest downstairs for an hour. Half an hour later when I was laying in a recliner by the pool I felt a hand in my hair and a laugh. It was [B]Nina[/B] Who found me. We talked a bit, I said to her that I was hungry. Nina then explained with authority in her voice that it is better to fuck hungry than to fuck with a full stomach. And who am I to disagree with an expert. So we went to a room and for the second time that day I had to go up the staircase with an hard on. I have read many tributes to Nina here on ISG, and it is dangerous to have to high expectations. But I was not disappointed in any way. We have a fantastic time together. Very varied sex, and a BJ that beats pretty much everything I have previously experienced. It was a pleasure to spend time with Nina. I hope I can repeat some day.

After these four very good sessions on Artemis I did not want the trip to end badly. Moreover, I feel quite satisfied. So after dinner and a short sauna so I went back to the hotel.

So lists or no lists? Well let me put it this way. I really valued all the great intel from ISG when I did my premier weekend at Artemis.

I must say that Artemis is a very good club. I met high-class women in terms of appearance and service. Everyone I met were professional. Even the one I declined to do a session with. They all took a no for an answer.

A drawback of Artemis, which is also one of the club's advantages is the expensive alcohol prices. You do not have be around extremy drunk visitors and that is good. But I miss the opportunity that I have in Samya. To go to the fridge, take a couple of ice-cold Bitburgers and go down to the sauna.

I'll be back! I hope!

T

[QUOTE=Tjohoo;1117786]Last winter I had to cancel two trips to NRW just because of all the snow. This year I wanted to be on the safe side and decided to make a trip that would not involve any driving. My choice fell upon Berlin and Artemis. I'm glad I made that decision, because I had two great days at Artemis.[/QUOTE]thanks for the report Tjohoo.

Happy you liked Artemis. Can't wait being there next week.

Also looks like there's going to be quite a few ISG members.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Tjohoo;1117786]Last winter I had to cancel two trips to NRW just because of all the snow. This year I wanted to be on the safe side and decided to make a trip that would not involve any driving. My choice fell upon Berlin and Artemis. I'm glad I made that decision, because I had two great days at Artemis.[/QUOTE]Great report Tjohoo. Like me you have a taste for the Czech / Slovak contingent at Artemis. Although I have yet to experience the pleasures of Marketa, I know Nina well and she recommended her Slovakian friend Fatima to me. Fatima is a hard worker and has one of the best asses in Artemis.

I was at Artemis earlier today. I had a later start than usual and arrived at the club at about 7. 30 pm as I flew into Berlin in the afternoon. It is really a credit to Berlin's Tegel airport and the public transport system that I could touch down at 5. 15 pm, collect my bag and be out of the airport 20 minutes later, then arrive at my apartment in Mitte before 1830 and arrive at Artemis only an hour later (I had to spend a bit of time sorting out payment for the apartment and my internet connection with the agency representative, otherwise I would have been there even quicker).

Dinner was a bit disappointing. There was some soggy fish (which I had) with rice / peas / carrots, and an alternative was some kind of beef stew, which I didn't fancy at all. The high spot of all this was the fresh salad and an apple for dessert. After a shower and shave (plus some time for the cuts to heal) I hit the Artemis bar. After a bit of sitting around in various places, I noticed an attractive brunette with glasses, and she eventually came to sit near me. Her name was Cherie. 21 years old, long straight hair, an attractive smile, a lovely curvy figure (C cups) , and olive skin. She told me that she was half Turkish and half German. But raised in Germany. We had a little chat about what I wanted, which was a GFE and she agreed to provide everything I specified. In fact she said that the only thing that she didn't like was fingers in her pussy and this was for hygiene reasons. In the room it turned out that she was obsessed with cleanliness. Firstly she gave me some alcohol hand rub. She used this too. And then she cleaned my little boy with a wet wipe. Performance wise she kind of delivered what she had said she would. It was interesting that when I went to kiss her at first she turned away but then she seemed to remember that she had promised me kissing and she did deliver some nice gentle kisses with tongue throughout the session. We had unspectacular but reasonable sex in various positions (I could just about see her in the mirror. As room 21 was very dark. The main attraction of the session was her good looks) and at the end she had a good try for her CIM bonus, but it never worked out for her. She seemed a bit disappointed by this and although she remained friendly at the lockers, she didn't pay much attention to me when she passed by afterwards. She told me that working at Artemis was her only job but I suspect she might do something else as I hadn't seen her there before an any of my trips.

I had a bit more of a rest and had brief chats with some girls, including an attractive German blonde called Daria who I didn't take up on her offer but who looked interesting. Eventually a more mature Polish brunette called Haline (or something like this) came up to me and I remembered that Traveller Uk had recommended her for a PSE so I took her for a spin in the upstairs Kino after she had put out her cigarette. We got a space at the back and she was soon applying her talents to my cock while I looked at the movie. She seemed pretty happy at a route one blowjob with no hands, taking it deep and this had the desired effect on me, producing a nice stiff result. She also allowed me to finger her pussy, which was fairly dry but very tight. I felt her body but her fake tits were rather hard and her skin elsewhere too soft for my tastes so after more BJ I let her ride me. I probably should have let her ride me to completion as she was great in the squatting position and I would have finished like this fairly quickly if I hadn't stopped her. However, I then tried a few positions but for some reason none of them really worked out and she didn't seem to like them or want to be close to me. Eventually my little boy lost some of his interest and after a bit of regrouping she gave me more BBBJ and I finished by wanking off while she sucked my balls. She then wanted to end the session. But there was 10 minutes remaining so I kept her with me for this. And at the lockers she wanted a 10 euro tip. Which I didn't provide. Overall an interesting girl but probably not a repeat for me.

I will be returning to Artemis midweek.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1117709]Insults? The asian guy? For asking him about the bird flu?

The german theke? What does that mean / what do you mean? I don't understand.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Germans in general are very honest people. You assumed that the receptionist was trying to scam you when she probably made a simple mistake. Second, you know nothing about the asian guy and assumed he was from asia and would know about the bird flu. First, if he was from asia he would probably find this both embarassing and insulting (kind of like suggesting he was a carrier). Second, if he was not from asia, the presumption that all asians are alike shows a lack of understanding and sophistication. What if I walked up to you and asked about the syphillis outbreak in your country? Would you view that as a sign of endearment? There is a reason the British only talk about the weather.

Does anybody know the german girl with black glasses? She was there yesterday and was sometimes talking with the queen of Artemis. She has long black hair.

Nice to see London Traveller yesterday. He was lying in front of the cinema.) Big brother is watching you.)

The food was not good yesterday. I was waiting for german Schnitzel (I have seen them in the citchen) but that was too late for me.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn;1117955]Does anybody know the german girl with black glasses? She was there yesterday and was sometimes talking with the queen of Artemis. She has long black hair.[/QUOTE]It may be the girl London Traveller was talking about just two posts down:

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1117817]I noticed an attractive brunette with glasses, and she eventually came to sit near me. Her name was Cherie. 21 years old, long straight hair, an attractive smile, a lovely curvy figure (C cups) , and olive skin. She told me that she was half Turkish and half German. But raised in Germany. We had a little chat about what I wanted, which was a GFE and she agreed to provide everything I specified. In fact she said that the only thing that she didn't like was fingers in her pussy and this was for hygiene reasons. In the room it turned out that she was obsessed with cleanliness. Firstly she gave me some alcohol hand rub. She used this too. And then she cleaned my little boy with a wet wipe. Performance wise she kind of delivered what she had said she would. It was interesting that when I went to kiss her at first she turned away but then she seemed to remember that she had promised me kissing and she did deliver some nice gentle kisses with tongue throughout the session. We had unspectacular but reasonable sex in various positions (I could just about see her in the mirror. As room 21 was very dark. The main attraction of the session was her good looks) and at the end she had a good try for her CIM bonus, but it never worked out for her. She seemed a bit disappointed by this and although she remained friendly at the lockers, she didn't pay much attention to me when she passed by afterwards. She told me that working at Artemis was her only job but I suspect she might do something else as I hadn't seen her there before an any of my trips.[/QUOTE]

First of all, I would like to thank you all in this community for the valuable information you provide. It is highly probable that if I knew this amount of quality information was available before my first visit to artemis fkk, it would have gone much better.

Not that my first approach to the FKK esperience was bad, but I would probably would have been more prepared to get the most out of it.

For a start, my first visit took place exactly on the 4th day of February last year. If I knew there was this huge fruit show I could have taken my precautions, just like I am doing this time. That date I arrived at around 6pm. I am usually very confident and able to keep cool, but I wasnt expecting to get as nervous as I got just by standing at the reception and having an inevitable glance at some naked ladies close by. To be truthful, I was literally shaking. I was a little embarassed by my shaking hand while paying the 80E. This overwhelming feeling made my coolness fade and felt like a virgin 16yo in highschool prom.

Anyways, I just walked to the locker room, took off my clothes and went to the main bar. I sat alone and asked for a cup of coffee so I could relax a bit. This actually worked. At this point, the place was light on males and there was a largely generous bunch of ladies fooling around. I saw a girl sitting a few barstools far from me that looked like a "nice" (nice as in next door nice) girl. I'm afraid I don't remember her name but she was skinny, had a sort of tribal tatoo on her lower back (I hadn't seen it, and I carry the inevitable prejudice of the typical "tramp stamp" tattoo thing, but this prejudice was that, a prejudice). In spite of the tattoo, she was actually very nice (in that way I mentioned). She was a natural blonde and she told me she was german.

Before engaging in any compromising deal, we chit chatted about where I was from, bla bla bla, and some useless stuff that broke the ice quite quickly. I asked everything (telling her I was new to this) and she kindly answered all my enquiries (I just list the facts, not paraphrasing her exactly) :

1. What services are included in the 60E? Vaginal sex, BBBJ, light kissing.

2. What additional services do you offer and how much are them? I offer deep kissing for a small tip, and anal intercourse for 100E (I thought this was too much maybe because I'm not that much into anal)

3. Do you take DATY? Yes, that would be just a tip.

She didn't specify the amount associated to the "tip" but I assumed it was a 10E tip.

I found the girl very sweet and gave her a shot.

She gave me a great BBBJ while I dove into her pussy. Intercourse was not as good as the BJ but the kissing was great! I did finish a bit before I wanted to during a second BBBJ not CIM or COB but over myself lying on my back. She was very easygoing and we had a small talk before my time was over.

When I came down she accompanied me to the lockers and I payed her 60E plus 20E which she gladly received and kissed me warmly on the lips goodbye.

Then I showered for about 10min and was ready to go back into the main room. This before I saw what I must describe as a horde of italian, spanish and british guys coming in. I won't lie, they kept coming. This made me just leave it there and just left the place. The famous fruit fair was taking place and the place became too crowded.

The tip about checking the schedule of important fairs or shows is very important if you don't want to have an (IMO) unpleasant experience, where all the girls are taken and sex with one of them is like sex on a war camp.

Thanks again, I will be posting again in probably two weeks on my new visit on Sunday feb 6th (at least 3 days before the same show!) so hopefully I can spend the 150E I couldn't last year (plus the new 350E reserved for this my second visit).

Good luck guys, and thank you again for this priceless forum.

The receptionist is totally distracted. She has an unrequited fantasy related to licking Norjan's feet.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1117849]Germans in general are very honest people. You assumed that the receptionist was trying to scam you when she probably made a simple mistake. Second, you know nothing about the asian guy and assumed he was from asia and would know about the bird flu. First, if he was from asia he would probably find this both embarassing and insulting (kind of like suggesting he was a carrier). Second, if he was not from asia, the presumption that all asians are alike shows a lack of understanding and sophistication. What if I walked up to you and asked about the syphillis outbreak in your country? Would you view that as a sign of endearment? There is a reason the British only talk about the weather.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn; 1117955]Does anybody know the german girl with black glasses? She was there yesterday and was sometimes talking with the queen of Artemis. She has long black hair.

Nice to see London Traveller yesterday. He was lying in front of the cinema.) Big brother is watching you.)

The food was not good yesterday. I was waiting for german Schnitzel (I have seen them in the citchen) but that was too late for me. [/QUOTE]Hi Suppenhuhn,

This is creepy! I don't know who you are but you can recognise me? Please say 'hallo' next time.)

We could have compared notes on Cherie. Who was the only girl in glasses I saw there on Saturday.

Too true that the food wasn't good. I never even saw the schnitzel. (

[QUOTE=Mikalatam;1118236]When I came down she accompanied me to the lockers and I payed her 60E plus 20E which she gladly received and kissed me warmly on the lips goodbye..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Mikalatam. Just for the record-this asking for "tips" for such things as DFK and DATY is not officially recognised and should not be encouraged from the girls. That is the €60 half hour room fee should include these things IF the girl provides them. If she does not, you as a customer should look else where for someone who does.

This is where an FKK differs, or should differ, from a regular bordello. You as a customer are free to circulate and find a girl with whom you "click" and with whom you are more likely to get the mor GFE type services. It is part of the game and part of the landscape that sometimes you will not get the experience you are after. Trouble is guys come in with the cash, willing to "tip" and the girls slowly, slowly degrade the service they are willing to give for the base price. I personally find entering into the "what will you do" negotiation before the session is a bad idea. Of course not talking about it you risk getting a session where you do not get what you want. But if you do-it is so much sweeter. Bit of a gamble in the end but this is what make FKK more pleasant than a straight bordello with a sex services menu.

Anyway, I am not as hard line with this as some but I do ask you to consider what I have suggested.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1118308]Thanks for the report Mikalatam. Just for the record-this asking for "tips" for such things as DFK and DATY is not officially recognised and should not be encouraged from the girls. That is the €60 half hour room fee should include these things IF the girl provides them. If she does not, you as a customer should look else where for someone who does.

This is where an FKK differs, or should differ, from a regular bordello. You as a customer are free to circulate and find a girl with whom you "click" and with whom you are more likely to get the mor GFE type services. It is part of the game and part of the landscape that sometimes you will not get the experience you are after. Trouble is guys come in with the cash, willing to "tip" and the girls slowly, slowly degrade the service they are willing to give for the base price. I personally find entering into the "what will you do" negotiation before the session is a bad idea. Of course not talking about it you risk getting a session where you do not get what you want. But if you do-it is so much sweeter. Bit of a gamble in the end but this is what make FKK more pleasant than a straight bordello with a sex services menu.

Anyway, I am not as hard line with this as some but I do ask you to consider what I have suggested.

AM[/QUOTE]Great advice, Angus. I will keep this in mind firmly and make the best out of the standard 60E. This cannot be but good news to me.

BTW, how are sundays usually? My visit is planned for Sunday Feb 6th@about 7 pm.

I will keep you posted on my second adventure at Artemis!

Peace

[QUOTE=Mikalatam; 1118386]Great advice, Angus. I will keep this in mind firmly and make the best out of the standard 60E. This cannot be but good news to me.

BTW, how are sundays usually? My visit is planned for Sunday Feb [email]6th@about[/email] 7 pm.

I will keep you posted on my second adventure at Artemis!

Peace[/QUOTE]Well you might find Sunday a bit slow and for sure the selection will be less than on a busy night, but there are advantages to this. Primarily the girls that are there tend to be a bit more willing to put in the bit of extra effort to get your business. Thus the type of GFE session you are looking for can be easier to find. But be alert and do not let any girl who happens upon you to drag you up to the rooms. Try to remember that in this situation you are in charge of you wallet, not the girls. That is, hold out for a girl who really seems interested in making yo happy and in having a bit of fun herself. Like I mentioned in the last post, you have to be willing not to get what you want if you are to get it without the negotiation that sort of ruins the mood (IMHO).

Good Luck.

AM

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1117817]then arrive at my apartment in Mitte before 1830 and arrive at Artemis only an hour later (I had to spend a bit of time sorting out payment for the apartment and my internet connection with the agency representative, otherwise I would have been there even quicker).[/QUOTE]May I ask which apartment do you rent? (website?)

[QUOTE=Glabor;1118441]May I ask which apartment do you rent? (website?)[/QUOTE]Hi Glabor, Unfortunately you're not set up to receive PMs. I would be happy to let you know where I am staying but I would rather not put it on the main board at the moment as this is a small apartment operation and not a large anonymous hotel. It's not particularly convenient for Artemis anyway as it's not far from Alexanderplatz. Best wishes, LT

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1118491]Hi Glabor, Unfortunately you're not set up to receive PMs. I would be happy to let you know where I am staying but I would rather not put it on the main board at the moment as this is a small apartment operation and not a large anonymous hotel. It's not particularly convenient for Artemis anyway as it's not far from Alexanderplatz. Best wishes, LT[/QUOTE]You better find your way from Alexanderplatz LT, cause I'll be waiting for you at the big A, tomorrow!

Ahahahahahaha.

Best

It was great to meet up with Kimino and Charlie 123 at the club today. Thanks for the company and conversation guys! I hope we can meet again soon.

I arrived at about 11 am and hit the gym. The machinery gave me intermittent electric shocks. Maybe because I am so unfit. Otherwise it worked well and I soon arrived very worn out, in the breakfast room where I replenished my energy.

I had difficulty again with my selection of mates. Nina was there and at one point she actually said to me that she felt like having sex. However, this wasn't said with any real or attempted pleasantries accompanying it so when I declined I wasn't surprised that she immediately headed off with a slight sense of a strop, although she did make some more friendly remarks to me later on in the afternoon. I hope we can get our relationship back on an even keel soon.

I then selected an attractive 29 year old German girl (from near Hamburg) called Kristiana, or Kris for short. Although very pleasant by the bar once we were in the room things went a bit awry. Suddenly everything was 'extra'. Kissing was an extra 50 euros, oral without a condom was similar, anal was 160 euros (this may be because she added in the 60 euro basic, but I didn't question her). The basic service that she provided was adequate apart from the fact that she was talking to me about extras whenever my cock wasn't in her mouth (covered of course). Which was quite a lot when we were having sex, as there was no kissing involved. At the end of the half hour. She told me that we had actually been together an hour. She wasn't wearing a watch. When I had sorted this out and we were on the way downstairs she said that the fee was 60 euros plus 20 euros 'for the house'. When I asked her if she had a mortgage she didn't understand. At the lockers, I gave her the 60 euros owing, but there was no kiss for me.

I was a bit wary of picking another girl after that but with the help of Kimino I selected a German girl (I can't remember her name but she was tall and slim, brunette with a lot of piercings, wearing boots and a corset) however she refused to go with me except in the company of her less attractive blonde friend, who didn't speak any English, so I declined.

I then hit on another recommendation who was Renee, a Bulgarian platinum blonde with a nice pair of enhanced C cups and a natural curvy ass to match. She produced most of the goods in the room, with french kissing and owo, but after good oral, and a lot of reverse oral from me. Which she seemed to enjoy. She didn't actually seem to like sex that much and we never really found a comfortable position. She also dried up a bit. She was very keen on the CIM bonus and the A level one too, which she told me about several times, but we didn't complete on these. It was also 50 euros apparently (at her suggestion) for her to put a finger and a vibrator up my ass. But we didn't do this either. However after the initial oral had been good I had extended to an hour and I was therefore a bit disappointed when she said that the hour was up after only 45 minutes. We then had a discussion about this, but she refused to give way. So although she had been a good performer, the session was a bit marred and I won't be repeating. It's Renee's 26th birthday on Friday. So she will be out getting pissed that night.

I hope to return later this week. Maybe one evening, if time permits, but I should pretty definitely be there on Saturday.

I'm starting to get the feeling that there are two parallel universes inside Artemis.

I visit the club on a regular basis and the last time I had a mediocre session (by which I mean the girl's service, not my performance which of course varies) was probably many months ago. And the last "awry" session was. Well, I don't remember exactly but there was something like that a year ago, perhaps.

I'm not sure what my point here is, but here's an idea: Selecting one of the "right" girls is heavily discussed in this thread. Hell, there's enough input about it that someone could compile a 15 page spreadsheet! Something that's not emphasized as much is building a right tone of relation (even if it just lasts 30 minutes.) I'm starting to believe that this issue of setting a "right" connection with the girl (which is incidentally not very dissimilar to building a connection with a girl you'd meet anywhere else) is as important, if not even more.

P. S. I'm planning to spend most of my day (and night) in Artemis tomorrow. Let me know if anyone wants to say Hi.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1118913]I'm starting to get the feeling that there are two parallel universes inside Artemis.

I visit the club on a regular basis and the last time I had a mediocre session (by which I mean the girl's service, not my performance which of course varies) was probably many months ago. And the last "awry" session was. Well, I don't remember exactly but there was something like that a year ago, perhaps.

I'm not sure what my point here is, but here's an idea: Selecting one of the "right" girls is heavily discussed in this thread. Hell, there's enough input about it that someone could compile a 15 page spreadsheet! Something that's not emphasized as much is building a right tone of relation (even if it just lasts 30 minutes.) I'm starting to believe that this issue of setting a "right" connection with the girl (which is incidentally not very dissimilar to building a connection with a girl you'd meet anywhere else) is as important, if not even more.

P. S. I'm planning to spend most of my day (and night) in Artemis tomorrow. Let me know if anyone wants to say Hi. [/QUOTE]Maybe you could actually share some of your valuable and high quality experience with someone like me, who clearly is in need of your advice and assistance. I have checked all of your five posts to date and not one girl's name is even mentioned in any of them, never mind what actually happened with her, either in the room or outside.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1118917]Maybe you could actually share some of your valuable and high quality experience with someone like me, who clearly is in need of your advice and assistance. I have checked all of your five posts to date and not one girl's name is even mentioned in any of them, never mind what actually happened with her, either in the room or outside.[/QUOTE]Even though I've very recently joined the forum, I haven't shared any girl's name on purpose. I'm not planning to name any names for the foreseeable future (though, of course, I reserve my right to change my mind about this any time I see fit) because I don't think there are right kind of girls and wrong kind of girls. This doesn't mean I'm not carefully and conservatively selective about which girls I session with. It just means someone's wrong girl can be someone else's right girl. I'd be glad to gossip about gory details of specific girls with you or anyone else when meeting in person, but I just don't trust myself to effectively comment on girls within the complete context in this forum.

This doesn't mean I'm planning to keep all the lessons I gathered over the years to myself though.

The most useful of these has been this: Your average Artemis girl is afterall *drums please* a girl. This doesn't only mean that you should respect her as a human being (which I hope any frequenter of this forum is aware of) , but also that you could treat her as if you're seducing any girl in the outside world. Of course, there are somewhat different dynamics at play here. Assuming one likes to come as close to a genuine passionate experience as possible, the down side is that it will most probably never be a complete seduction since the girl will leave you after the session ends (and, yes, I'm ignoring the usual little chitchat around the club afterwards.) The upside of this situation is, however, that there is much less effort involved in approaching a new girl and you can experiment on your technique freely since you don't need to stress about whether you will eventually "seal the deal". .

The result of a successful seduction is a more enthusiastic session which leaves a euphoria that can last for days during which you may find yourself smirking for no reason.

As to how to go on with seduction, there are varying "schools of thought" about which you can find plenty of resources online. The common feature of all of these that I also find effective in my personal experience is a daring aura of visible self-confidence. Be able to look the girl in the eye for as long as you like. Feel free to make snarky and playful comments about her. Check out other girls while she's sitting on your lap. Don't be afraid to keep some mystery about yourself. Don't act needy. And, when you're ready to session with her, keep a laser focus on her and on what you want.

Admittedly, this game play fits me all the better because I like to be dominant and in control in the sack. But, my main point is to give some effort to finding the right tone of relation with the girl. Beyond being a awesome spa, an exciting bordello and a sub-par dining establishment, Artemis is a great playground to find out more about yourself and the opposite sex.

I'll try to share more of my thoughts later on.

I agree with all these well-expressed thoughts. In my experience (mongering in 14 countries, including a dozen or so visits to the FKKs of Hessen) a sense of humor is a wonderful asset as is a willingness to go with the mood of the moment.

Also, I think that starting off in the kino, maybe even finishing there, is a pretty good way to ensure a good experience. Most girls really like to be on stage, the center of attention. And even those who are more mercenary want to advertise and don't want to be seen giving poor service. Probably one of the best expriences I have ever had was a few years back in Palace when a young brunette dressed in a short schoolgirl skirt came waltzing throgh the Palace kino asking who would give her anal lessons. I volunteered, and before a crowd of about a dozen we put on a real show. Both of us thoroughly enjoyed the role playing and laughed about it all the way to the money lockers.

(report can be found in RoD file under my old name Kahului).

I will not go witih a girl who won't at least start in the kino or some other public place.

Cheers and see you in April.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1118936]Even though I've very recently joined the forum, I haven't shared any girl's name on purpose. I'm not planning to name any names for the foreseeable future (though, of course, I reserve my right to change my mind about this any time I see fit) because I don't think there are right kind of girls and wrong kind of girls. This doesn't mean I'm not carefully and conservatively selective about which girls I session with. It just means someone's wrong girl can be someone else's right girl. I'd be glad to gossip about gory details of specific girls with you or anyone else when meeting in person, but I just don't trust myself to effectively comment on girls within the complete context in this forum.

This doesn't mean I'm planning to keep all the lessons I gathered over the years to myself though.

The most useful of these has been this: Your average Artemis girl is afterall *drums please* a girl. This doesn't only mean that you should respect her as a human being (which I hope any frequenter of this forum is aware of) , but also that you could treat her as if you're seducing any girl in the outside world. Of course, there are somewhat different dynamics at play here. Assuming one likes to come as close to a genuine passionate experience as possible, the down side is that it will most probably never be a complete seduction since the girl will leave you after the session ends (and, yes, I'm ignoring the usual little chitchat around the club afterwards.) The upside of this situation is, however, that there is much less effort involved in approaching a new girl and you can experiment on your technique freely since you don't need to stress about whether you will eventually "seal the deal". .

The result of a successful seduction is a more enthusiastic session which leaves a euphoria that can last for days during which you may find yourself smirking for no reason.

As to how to go on with seduction, there are varying "schools of thought" about which you can find plenty of resources online. The common feature of all of these that I also find effective in my personal experience is a daring aura of visible self-confidence. Be able to look the girl in the eye for as long as you like. Feel free to make snarky and playful comments about her. Check out other girls while she's sitting on your lap. Don't be afraid to keep some mystery about yourself. Don't act needy. And, when you're ready to session with her, keep a laser focus on her and on what you want.

Admittedly, this game play fits me all the better because I like to be dominant and in control in the sack. But, my main point is to give some effort to finding the right tone of relation with the girl. Beyond being a awesome spa, an exciting bordello and a sub-par dining establishment, Artemis is a great playground to find out more about yourself and the opposite sex.

I'll try to share more of my thoughts later on. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1118936]Even though I've very recently joined the forum, I haven't shared any girl's name on purpose. I'm not planning to name any names for the foreseeable future (though, of course, I reserve my right to change my mind about this any time I see fit) because I don't think there are right kind of girls and wrong kind of girls. This doesn't mean I'm not carefully and conservatively selective about which girls I session with. It just means someone's wrong girl can be someone else's right girl. I'd be glad to gossip about gory details of specific girls with you or anyone else when meeting in person, but I just don't trust myself to effectively comment on girls within the complete context in this forum.

This doesn't mean I'm planning to keep all the lessons I gathered over the years to myself though.

The most useful of these has been this: Your average Artemis girl is afterall *drums please* a girl. This doesn't only mean that you should respect her as a human being (which I hope any frequenter of this forum is aware of) , but also that you could treat her as if you're seducing any girl in the outside world. Of course, there are somewhat different dynamics at play here. Assuming one likes to come as close to a genuine passionate experience as possible, the down side is that it will most probably never be a complete seduction since the girl will leave you after the session ends (and, yes, I'm ignoring the usual little chitchat around the club afterwards.) The upside of this situation is, however, that there is much less effort involved in approaching a new girl and you can experiment on your technique freely since you don't need to stress about whether you will eventually "seal the deal". .

The result of a successful seduction is a more enthusiastic session which leaves a euphoria that can last for days during which you may find yourself smirking for no reason.

As to how to go on with seduction, there are varying "schools of thought" about which you can find plenty of resources online. The common feature of all of these that I also find effective in my personal experience is a daring aura of visible self-confidence. Be able to look the girl in the eye for as long as you like. Feel free to make snarky and playful comments about her. Check out other girls while she's sitting on your lap. Don't be afraid to keep some mystery about yourself. Don't act needy. And, when you're ready to session with her, keep a laser focus on her and on what you want.

Admittedly, this game play fits me all the better because I like to be dominant and in control in the sack. But, my main point is to give some effort to finding the right tone of relation with the girl. Beyond being a awesome spa, an exciting bordello and a sub-par dining establishment, Artemis is a great playground to find out more about yourself and the opposite sex.

I'll try to share more of my thoughts later on. [/QUOTE]Thank you so much. Your wisdom is much appreciated.

Arrived at 16:00 left at midnight.

Nice chatting with Charlie123 and meeting LT for the first time!

As soon as I entered Artemis I was immediately attracted by a tall dark haired beauty with a corset and high boots which I recognized being Helena (the one LT was mentioning before, sorry he didn't had a chance to try the girl).

I like her quite a lot, I find her super attractive and a real hot in the room. Talked about her quite a bunch of times, lots of piercing, german. I was in the mood (like allways BTW) to get some extras (the normal ones) but ended up having a standard very nice session. Perfect!

Then, Lenny, hangs around with Helena, black hair, casquette (bop) haircut, I find her very intriguing, at times. Don't remember having a session with her before but she says we did.

Sweet, pro, girl. Will repeat, maybe I'll try to get her in the room with Helena, think they are friends, professionally. Got cim.

Last, Clara (or Carla) , been with her few times, allways terrific.

Italian, long black hair, beautiful ass and very professional but also super sweet, when she wants.

This for the girls reports, probably nothing new to most.

The upselling issue.

None of the girls tryed to upsell anything, ask for tips or said that wouldn't do something. To all girls I gave a tip, in one case a very good one and all where very happy with it.

For the rest, facilities allways great, at 16:00 place was quite dead, until the time I left it was never crowded, girls complaining about nobody fucking, as usual. Ahahah.

I'll be there today, until morning. I'll try not to go there too early but the weather sucks in Berlin today.

Looking forward to meet Nebula2001 today, reading his previous post I know we will have a nice chat between sessions.

After talking with Charlie, I do think my next trip will be in the NRW area.

I'm very sorry for the guys writing in the threads related to that area, they will have to put up with my usual ton of questions and faq to fuck. Ahahah.

Ciaooo.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1118913]I'm starting to get the feeling that there are two parallel universes inside Artemis.

I visit the club on a regular basis and the last time I had a mediocre session (by which I mean the girl's service, not my performance which of course varies) was probably many months ago. And the last "awry" session was. Well, I don't remember exactly but there was something like that a year ago, perhaps.

I'm not sure what my point here is, but here's an idea: Selecting one of the "right" girls is heavily discussed in this thread. Hell, there's enough input about it that someone could compile a 15 page spreadsheet! Something that's not emphasized as much is building a right tone of relation (even if it just lasts 30 minutes.) I'm starting to believe that this issue of setting a "right" connection with the girl (which is incidentally not very dissimilar to building a connection with a girl you'd meet anywhere else) is as important, if not even more.

P. S. I'm planning to spend most of my day (and night) in Artemis tomorrow. Let me know if anyone wants to say Hi. [/QUOTE]My experience was that when I was a very regular customer I rarely had a bad or substandard session. Now that I am am infrequent visitor I can not say the same. I do not think that the girls consciously think-there goes a a non regular visitor I will give him my see-game. But it does make a difference I feel. That is, when they see your face there week after week you do tend to get a bit more consistent service. As an less regular visitor maybe you have to work harder to find the girls that give better sessions?

This erosion of service may well also have to do with my own attitude towards the place to.

AM

Met with Nebula2001 and we did have some great time, and great food in Kreuzberg, between sessions, first time I leave Artemis to come back later, all smooth.

Later on Charlie123 joined and we all stayed until closing time. Very nice day.

Not much to say.

Stayed with Manuela, well known by most of you. Real nice.

Went with Sara, spanish, really hot. Upsold a bit saying she wouldn't kiss a lot if it was only for haf an hour, but apart from this e had a great time. She was new for me, would repeat.

Then I went with Kety, she walks around with Clara (one of my favorites) , black hair, Romanian, very attractive, specially the face IMO.

Wasn't sure if to try her or not, kind of a gamble but seeing her hanging around with Clara pushed me to try.

Super nice session, a very hot girl but also sweet and relaxed.

Will definitely take her next time, with Clara, she said they work very well together and I believe her.

At around 4 o'clock I finally saw Mindy in the stairs area, she has been very busy all evening, so I took her to the room. Nice session, will repeat.

So, very nice 2 day trip!

Artemis never puts me down.

Best

[QUOTE=Mathias037; 1109973]Hi there,

Will be there Wednesday next week (report follows) , but before just one question: Do they still have a dessous day there (I would like to avoid it if possible).

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]Why avoid such a day?

Is it that you like it more when they are all naked or are there too many people visiting these days = wait in line for a room to be ready. ?

I'm curious 'cause I always find women more attractive and sexier with lingerie on than totally naked.

[QUOTE=Turn Around; 1119476]Why avoid such a day?

Is it that you like it more when they are all naked or are there too many people visiting these days = wait in line for a room to be ready. ?

I'm curious 'cause I always find women more attractive and sexier with lingerie on than totally naked. [/QUOTE]I totally agree with you and I specifically try to go to Artemis when it's lingerie day.

But this is very personal and many people prefer naked girls, like some love tatoos and other hate them, some like asians and others black girls and so on.

I'm absolutely sure that it's not because there's a crowd when it's lingerie day. I bet three quarters of the men visiting don't even know it's lingerie day before entering the club.

Ciao

Tonight was the first time that I have visited Artemis in the evening, planning only to see one girl (not that I was sure who I was seeing before I had arrived). It was very different to arrive at the club at 7 pm while things were in full swing with a lot of girls there and the laser lights on, rather than in the morning when the atmosphere is really much cooler. I would have been intimidated arriving in such an atmosphere (and such relative darkness) earlier on in my FKK career, but I felt fairly confident as I walked in and it was a good time to arrive as the place wasn't too busy and the food was still fairly warm.

Dinner was much better than on my last two visits, although not very well balanced as boiled potatoes, rice, and pasta were all available. The mushroom pasta wasn't bad and there were a few stuffed peppers (meat inside) left (clearly this had been the most popular dish. It went with the rice). And I also had a few potatoes for good measure. After stuffing myself with salad as well, I settled down on a sofa in the main room (much smokier now than when I usually arrive. There's always a downside. However as even the non-smoking girls hang out upstairs, I feel that I have no choice).

Some cute girls were sitting next to men already and they seemed very much attached. One busty maiden particularly caught my eye but she didn't separate and the couple went off to a room together never to be seen by me again. I also caught the eye of Nina and she waved Hello, she didn't settle down long by the pole but was soon up and out with a guy off to a room. There were plenty of other girls chatting but none took my fancy and I really wanted a GFE this evening. I watched for about an hour, changing position a couple of times. While I was briefly by the stairs outside I saw Fatima coming down the stairs with a very satisfied customer and I thought that she was a definite possibility, however when back in the main lounge another beauty appeared who I had seen before and I immediately went up to her to say Hello. I won't give her name as I have written about my delight in her in a previous posting and won't go into details, however we had an hour and a half session, starting in the cinema (where Nina was enthusiastically blowing then shagging a guy in cowgirl) and finishing in a room upstairs (26. Greek goddess theme) where as we came out an hour and a half later Nina was just arriving with another guy at the top of the stairs and heading off to a room. She really is amazingly busy. Anyway, this time I had an excellent experience (I think the girl did too) and was very pleased, leaving with a smile on my face which has lasted till now (midnight) as I write this.

I still hope to return on Saturday.

Hello!

After reading some post from you guys, Kimino och Nebula2001, I wounder if you will visit Artemis Saturday the 12th. I will only be in Berlin this day and you guys seems to be fun to hang out with in the club. I will be there from the morning to the night (no hotel room ha ha).

Does anyone know if it still is okey to sleep in the club for an hour or two? I remember to taking a nap downstairs under the stair.

Looking forward to vist Berlin again! =D

Arrived from Artemis an hour ago and can't seem to sleep, so here's a little stream of consciousness (and thank the gods for spellchecking software.)

This was my second night in a row in Artemis. After the great night of mongering with Kimino (Mindy says Hi to you BTW) and Charlie123, I spontaneously decided at 10:30 PM to see if a certain "crazy" lady I enjoyed the last time was there. I was in the club's sauna by 11:15.

And, yes, our girl showed her face in a short while. After enjoying my cigar for about an hour (yes, I'm one of those inconsiderate douchebags turning the main lounge into a gas chamber) I went upstairs with her. I had one of my most passionate Artemis sessions with her last night. Although this session went with a little less intensity due my tiredness, it was still unforgettable. I am not going to get into who this mystery girl was (though I'm sure Kimino can easily guess who she is) because the 'service' I got was extremely special to my case due to some emotional reasons I won't delve into and wouldn't be an indication how good or bad a session with the said girl would be for others. My main advice from the whole experience would be to give genuine care, attention and passion to the girls and things may go better than you ever expected. As I mentioned before, catch me IRL in Artemis and I'll gladly gossip further.

As a side note, I've been giving a try to bringing a deodorant and perfume and using them before each session. I haven't asked girls what they thought, but I can easily say that it certainly made things better than they already were. In the very least, the extra confidence it gives you makes it worthwhile in my opinion.

Left the club at 5 am as usual.

Both the girl quality and the girl-to-man ratio seems to be quite ideal this week. The taxi driver on my way home told me that there's a messe starting at Feb 10th. (Taxi drivers waiting at Artemis are usually quite friendly when you talk with them. I could recommend them as a source of some insight and wacky stories about Artemis mongering to anyone.)

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1119634]My main advice from the whole experience would be to give genuine care, attention and passion to the girls and things may go better than you ever expected.[/QUOTE]Totally agree, but not a technique anybody can just learn and apply. It's either you have it or not.

Happy the girl showed up yestreday, don't need to guess who it was.

Rethinking at the past days, I might procrastinate my NRW trip a bit and keep my next trip for Artemis, although it's not going to be very soon, unless I win a lottery or something. Ahahaha.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1119568]Hello!

After reading some post from you guys, Kimino och Nebula2001, I wounder if you will visit Artemis Saturday the 12th. I will only be in Berlin this day and you guys seems to be fun to hang out with in the club. I will be there from the morning to the night (no hotel room ha ha).

Does anyone know if it still is okey to sleep in the club for an hour or two? I remember to taking a nap downstairs under the stair.

Looking forward to vist Berlin again! =D[/QUOTE]Ciao Kid Icarus.

Very unfortunately I won't be in Berlin on that date. Sigh.

I usually don't go at Artemis on the weekends and I usually try to be there on wednesdays (for the lingerie day).

For sure you can sleep in the club if you find a silent spot. Around the pool or downstairs around the bar.

I don't think anybody will come there and wake you up.

Have a nice trip

[QUOTE=Kimino;1119672]/For sure you can sleep in the club if you find a silent spot. Around the pool or downstairs around the bar.[/QUOTE]I'm vast E the very best place to sleep at Artemis is at the base of the stairs as far to the back as possible (that is right under the stairs. That is if you really want to catch a good hour nap. If you want to snooze yet be awake to scope the girlies a little, better be closer to the pool room door. But there you are likely to be disturbed by a girl who thinks you should not be sleeping, rather banging (and paying) her.

For me the pool area is just too loud and echo-why.

AM-who has slept many an hour under the stairs.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1119698]I'm vast E the very best place to sleep at Artemis ...[/QUOTE]Anyone else noticing that their reports are being spellchecked (or something) but the forum? In a couple of instances in the past days I have written one ting and something different has been published. The above was supposed to read- "I M vast E" (in my vast experience) the very best etc.

As I say this has happened like this a few times. Anything in the settings I have to turn on or off? I have had a look but do not see anything obvious.

Also emoticons do not seem to work anymore.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1119734]Anyone else noticing that their reports are being spellchecked (or something) but the forum? In a couple of instances in the past days I have written one ting and something different has been published. The above was supposed to read- "I M vast E" (in my vast experience) the very best etc.

As I say this has happened like this a few times. Anything in the settings I have to turn on or off? I have had a look but do not see anything obvious.

Also emoticons do not seem to work anymore.

AM[/QUOTE]Absolutely! Jackson's grammar-spelling obsession has taken over big time it seems.

Not that I regard the use of proper spelling wrong in any way, but as you have experienced yourself in some instances this auto-adjustment takes some fun and personality away from the contribution.

Bless

One of my shortest yet most enjoyable trips to Artemis today. I am in Berlin on business but found that I had a 2 hour window for a swift visit, arrived at 12ish. The place was quiet, some good porn in the kinos so I chilled in the downstairs kino when Marketa walked in looking gorgeous. She walked over and chatted away. I wasnt warmed up yet but promised to find her upstairs. Half an hour later up I went with no sign of her. I wandered into the restaurant and there she was, talking to friends including one familiar brunette.

I went to the downstairs kindo and just spotted Marketa leaving when I was collared by a shark, by the time had said NO! Politely, Marketa was gone. Sod it! Time was pressing. I hung around the stairs and waited, luckily the guy had no stamina and down she came 15 minutes later. I grabbed her straight away and had a great time the full Marketa service, she gets more gorgeous everytime I see her. The intensity of her eye to eye stare gets me every time.

We came downstairs, I showered and 15 minutes later I saw the familiar brunette. I asked her name, it was Shelby. Now I remember, she has turned her hair from red to brunette and has lost a few pounds, but not off her breasts. Wonderful. Up we went, she knows how to use her mouth, breasts and body to please a man. I could have stayed on I would, but duty called and at 2pm I left feeling happy but disappointed that I couldn't stay for more.

So that it was, short and sweet. Like me.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1119672]Ciao Kid Icarus.

Very unfortunately I won't be in Berlin on that date. Sigh.

I usually don't go at Artemis on the weekends and I usually try to be there on wednesdays (for the lingerie day). [/QUOTE]About the lingerie day I totaly agree. I like when you can't see everything. This time I tried to come for a Wednesday but it did not work out, so Saturday it will be.

See you maybe next time =)

i am getting used to arriving a bit later now and it seems good to come in when the atmosphere is beginning to liven up but hasn't become too noisy or hectic yet. i went in for some food at around 6. 40 pm and enjoyed the bratwurst with sauerkraut, as well as some fish, rice and salad. unfortunately dessert isn't the strong point of the meal, but there are always a few apples.

as usual i spent ages looking around for a suitable girl. i had seen fatima in the dining room but she had completely disappeared (i was told later that she had a special client with her) and there were a few other interesting candidates, including a busty blonde wearing some long white bead chains and nothing else, and a busty brunette. the blonde disappeared too, and the busty brunette ignored my approach and then draped a towel around herself, i think this indicated that she wasn't available to anyone. i eventually saw nina and when i went right up to her she agreed to go with me to the kino where she gave me an great bj and then we moved to a room where this continued, followed by sex in a couple of positions until the half hour was up. nina gets cuter each time i see her and i just wish that she could be bit more intimate with me than her very professional manner has so far allowed.

i then thought that i needed so see someone new, so although a few old flames were around, i tried going up to the busty blonde with the beads who i had seen earlier. she turned out to be a 30 year old spanish maiden called sara. unfortunately she had little english but she was very attractive nonetheless, so off to a room we went. i think the first warning sign was when she criticised me at the top of the stairs when we were choosing a room for knowing too much about them! we went to 6 which has some nice mirrors and things improved a bit after she had cleaned me up with a wet wipe (i had just had a shower after seeing nina so there was really no need) and then began to give me a pretty good no hands bj which looked great, both when i looked at her and when i observed the whole thing in the mirror. unfortunately this continued for only a couple of minutes before she began to reach for a condom, although i managed to get her to prolong it for a minute or two more and she moved into a position where i could reach her ass and pussy with my hand. however, as soon as i touched her pussy she jumped up and wiped my hand, herself and her lips (the ones on her face) with some kitchen towel. she then put some lube on her pussy and told me that i could touch but putting a finger in her would be 'extra'. a bit of nice moaning ensued when i touched her but this was pretty much the high spot of the session, with me touching her moist (thanks to the lube) pussy and her pretty lips around my cock. she finished blowing and then got on top in reverse cowgirl (her choice). this is a position which looks great but unfortunately i tend not to find it very stimulating and after a short time i began to wilt a bit. she then decided, without consultation, to give me a covered blow job and tried very hard with her hand to get me to come in the condom. when i wanted some more sex she began to look a bit unhappy and said that i was being too demanding for 60 euros (at this point only about 15 minutes of the session had passed). we then did sex in missionary for a while, no kissing was allowed, including no kissing of her face, and she looked as though she was lying back and thinking of barcelona. various comments emanated from her lips in various languages, including 'mein gott' and other phrases in spanish, the purpose of which was uncertain. initially she also kept her hand on my cock. for 'condom control' she said, but eventually i managed to prise it away and she seemed not particularly happy with the deeper penetration that this allowed. after i came she was off away from me like a shot and soon putting her beads back on clearly intending to leave the room but as only 20 minutes had passed i asked her to stay. at which she complained that i had looked at my watch, and said that for 60 euros she should be allowed to finish the session and that i was the only man who had ever wanted to stay with her after coming (this might have been true given her attitude!) and, perhaps because of this, i was 'crazy'. she did stay a few more minutes, not looking happy at all, and at the lockers the unfriendliness continued, so there was no peck on the cheek for me downstairs as i parted with my cash.

After my evening visits in the past couple of days, which hadn't really been the most successful time I had experienced in the club, it was good to arrive a bit earlier. At 1 pm. I hit the place this time with my gym gear in a bag, intending to do a warm up on the treadmill before hitting the smoking lounge. The staff at reception were very helpful and when I asked for a larger locker for my bag the girl on duty was happy to assist.

Soon I was in the kit and on my way downstairs when I bumped into Nina while I was getting a glass of water at the downstairs bar (actually this proved impossible as there was nobody attending). She was her usual friendly but slightly reserved self with me. Asking me if I wanted to fuck her. And then moving on out through the pool area. I went along with her as I now needed to get my drink from upstairs. On the way upstairs we passed the busty brunette who I had seen the night before but who appeared unavailable. This turned out to be Shelby, a compatriot of Nina's from the Czech republic, probably in her early 20s. Nina introduced us and recommended me to Shelby. Well, I thought I would stay cool and still do my gym stuff as I had intended but I was thinking of Shelby from then on in. She turned up in the bar about an hour later while I was recovering from the treadmill adventure and as soon as we made eye contact she was on her way over to see me. She didn't rush and chatted very pleasantly for a good few minutes before we made our way upstairs. I was very impressed, not only with her natural figure, but with her attention to detail in the service, which was excellent and included decent kissing as well as all the usual trimmings and no offer of extras. I had got off to a good start.

Next up was an old flame who I have previously reported on here, so I will keep this very brief. I was pleased with my second choice too.

Finally I had seen Marketa around. In fact she had been hanging out with Shelby and I initially thought that I would see Marketa alone as she was on my wish list, but then I thought that they would make a good duo, so I propositioned them when they were having a cup of tea by the bar after they had an unsuccessful fishing trip down to the kino. This proved to be an excellent choice as they were both very professional but Marketa probably wouldn't have been quite my type on her own as her kissing was very limited and she didn't like being touched on the pussy much. However, Shelby made up for these limitations and we spent an excellent 20 minutes or so as a 3sum before I finished in a very satisfying way.

Before dinnner I met an old pal hanging around in the bar area and we shared our supper at a table with a couple of lovely Czech girls, which livened things up even more.

I hope to hit the club again for a short time tomorrow before heading off home.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1007397]Alleng,

I saw Selma last week and I did remember to say Hello, to her from you.

After some prompting, she did remember her session with you, and the fact that you had showed her your passport afterwards to prove your claimed age of 60. She had been convinced that you were only mid-40's (my age).

She sends her best wishes.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie, Hi everybody, here I am again, after a year I will come back to Artemis next week or the week after. During these days I read all the posts of the last year: hard work! But now I have my list of favourite girls, thanks to your reports. Thank you Charlie to have remembered to say Hello, to Selma from me: I'm not 60, by the way, only 53, but it's true, she thought I was mid-40's. Is Selma still working there? It would be nice recognize her and have a nice session with her again. But I'd like also to know some "must" like Maria, Marketa, Fatima and other girls I noted on a list of desires. The only problem for me will be "how to recognize them. Yes, I know that there are photos on Artemis site, but it's still hard to recognize a girl after watching a photo before going there. So, I will try to chat a little bit with the girls, refusing gently them at first, to catch their names. It will be fine to meet someone of the Forum there, I'll make you know some days before my movements.

Hi Kimino, I'm italian too and not "that kind of italian": I'm a quiet guy, I think it will be fine to meet, if you will be there.

Thank you again.

Alleng

[QUOTE=Alleng;1120150]Hi Kimino, I'm italian too and not "that kind of italian": I'm a quiet guy, I think it will be fine to meet, if you will be there.[/QUOTE]Ciao!

No wonder, just the fact you are here and writing in english makes you a non-standard italian. Ahaha.

Unfortunately I just came back from Berlin and I won't be going back for a couple of months, sigh.

We will meet for sure in a future occasion.

Take care!

Kimino

Alleng.

Yes Selma is still working in the club.

I have seen her very often.

Is there any rules for where to have sex? If the girl agree can you have sex in another place then in the kino? I remember that under the stairs on the sofa ther is cleaningstuff. I think its okey there too but maybe not many girls like that. But anyway, what does the rules say? .

Day one, part 3.

After the shower I began to wander the club. There weren't many girls around and not many bears either. Felt strange when there were the IFA-messe. Had an orange juice at the lower bar (had to ask twice to get a clean glass) and saw 4-5 guys who had crashed in the sofas down there, probably some forum members? All the sun beds beside the pool were occupied in the way that punters had placed there towels at them. Very annoying. This have been the case on all my visits. Please don't put your towel on a sun bed unless you are laying there.

It was clear that most of the girls didn't even bothered to go down here so I went up again. When I reached the main level, three old guys were going upstairs with drinks in their hands but without female escort and I thought that this will be fun. A couple of steps above them a girl with a guy were heading for a zimmer and she turned around and said that going upstairs weren't allowed without ladies but the oldies didn't got it so she screamed to them 'The sign, read the sign! ' and pointed out a sign in the middle of the stair with the same message. The old farts all blushed and turned around, all red in their faces. Very entertaining.

Now the time was about 19:00 and still not much action. Very strange. Most of the girls that were there I wouldn't even like to fuck at all, even if I was getting paid. A thai-girl with some black corset flirted with me, using her tongue, but I told her I had no interest in her. Finally I settled down in a couch in the smoky bar environment and just a few minutes later a dark haired girl sat down beside me. She asked me my name and I hers but can't remember it. I do remember her looks thou. Small tits and she had hairy forearms. Not my type. So I told her but she didn't seem to get it. She said ' I'll make your dreams come true' and I said 'I'll doubt that' and then, all of a sudden she reached for my cock under the robe and grabbed it while saying 'You have a nice cock'. Told her I assumed she said that to all men and that she had nothing that appealed to me and that I had no interest in going to a room with her. She looked angry but said nothing and went away.

So I just sat there fending of girls and about 20:00 things were starting to happen. Suddenly one bombshell after an other came strolling in to the bar and many of them with amazing silicon tits. Wow! Two friends were heading directly for what seemed to be regular clients and up the stair they went, damn it, I would have gone with either one of them as they both were blondes and really good looking. I walked out to the main stair ready to make business and the door to the ladies room flew up and two stunners came out. One brunette with really nice tits but as she where a brunette and she also had brown nipples I wasn't really in to her and in the corner of my eye I had seen what was behind her, a blonde. She had black high heels, a belly button, pearl necklace and nothing more. Blood where rushing to my dick just seeing her. She had her hair in a pony tail and she had fantastic C- or maybe even D-cup silicon tits with light nipples, not pink but not far from. My tongue got tied up and I thought I would miss the opportunity but she where very observant and immediately asked me 'are you waiting for someone? While grabbing my forearm with both her hands. I sort o just said 'yeah, for you! ' and she laughed and I laughed and we walked up the stair. Now there were only one room vacant and I thought of that as a good sign.

With the heels she were about 1, 75 meters and inside the room I grabbed her waist and pushed her at the bed where she landed on her back. She looked kind of like a porn star and I had to use a serious amount of willpower not to just dive in between her thighs with my tongue but I stopped my self in time. Who knows how many guys had given her oral sex earlier. She kept on laughing and asked me my name and where I came from and then I asked her. She said her name was Jeni (Jeanie?) and that she came from Poland. I didn't care and told her I would go for the hour if I liked her and she said something about that she assumed that I liked her as I had gone to a zimmer with her but she weren't very skilled in English. I didn't had an hard-on and as I would never let her blow me without a condom this became a problem. Grabbed her fantastic set of tits and they were great, but maybe a little too firm. Got an erection and asked her for a condom. She said 'how many do you want' laughed and took maybe 6-7 condoms from her purse and threw them at the bed. I told her I wanted one straight from her purse and not one that had been on the bed and she took a new one, opened it and placed it in her mouth and I just said 'no, no, no, use your hands'. So, another new condom got opened up and she placed it on my dick. She started sucking and it felt great but she used her hands a little too much and so I told her. Then told her to lay on her back and keep her high hells on and started fucking her mish. She moaned and called me her 'warrior' which just felt awkward so I told her to ride me and she did this while I squeezed her tits. Then she said she liked it doggie style and I told her that I did too so I fucked her from behind for maybe three-four minutes and then told her I wanted to come in her face and she said 'only in my mouth or on my tits' but I couldn't hold it back so I just teared the condom off and blew a serious amount on the mirror and on the bed. She laughed again and this became somewhat annoying so I told her I would pay her now and she asked 'for an hour' and I just responded 'lets go downstairs' and downstairs we went. Took my wallet from the locker and said 'I'll be back' and went to the front desk and changed some 50-Euro bills in to 10-Euros. Gave her 60 Euros and she complained and said 'It wasn't my fault ' etc. So I gave her 20 Euros more and off she went, looking sulky.

Placed my wallet in the safe and when heading for the shower I saw the asian guy heading upstairs with a stunner, holding hands. Looked really funny.

To be continued.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1120429]Got an erection and asked her for a condom. She said 'how many do you want' laughed and took maybe 6-7 condoms from her purse and threw them at the bed. [b]I told her I wanted one straight from her purse and not one that had been on the bed and she took a new one, opened it [/b]and placed it in her mouth and I just said 'no, no, no, use your hands'. So, another new condom got opened up and she placed it on my dick.[/QUOTE]What's all that hystery about? The package was closed, so who cares if the condom was on the bed?

HB

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1120370]Is there any rules for where to have sex? If the girl agree can you have sex in another place then in the kino? I remember that under the stairs on the sofa ther is cleaningstuff. I think its okey there too but maybe not many girls like that. But anyway, what does the rules say? .[/QUOTE]Basically, if the girl agrees, you can have sex anywhere in the club except for the sauna and the pool. Girls get fucked in their ass on the bar stools downstairs sometimes.

HB

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1119734]Anyone else noticing that their reports are being spellchecked (or something) but the forum? In a couple of instances in the past days I have written one ting and something different has been published. The above was supposed to read- "I M vast E" (in my vast experience) the very best etc.

As I say this has happened like this a few times. Anything in the settings I have to turn on or off? I have had a look but do not see anything obvious.

Also emoticons do not seem to work anymore.

AM[/QUOTE]I have also noticed my spelling being corrected (or fucked up). Its best to preview your post and check if anything has been incorrectly modified. I have found that removed emoticons can be added back when editting a post. :D Spellling mistakes are not corrected when in "post edit" mode.
BTW, We are expected to write in fully correct English except for offical abbreviations, I believe. SMS style is really frowned upon by Jackson.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1120429]Please don't put your towel on a sun bed unless you are laying there.[/QUOTE]Some people, actually most people, leave the towels on the beds after they leave. The cleaners usually pass and pick them up but if you want to get one immediately you simply take off the used towels and put yours.

But remember to wash your hands after touching the used towel, you never know.

This means you will need an extra towel to dry your hands after washing them.

At the same time, you should be quick enough to go back to the sun bed after washing your hands BEFORE someone else removes your new towels from the sun bed.

One strategy could be to free up 2 sun beds and relative towels, rush to wash your hands, grab the new towels after drying your hands and rush back to the sun beds hoping that at least one of them is still free.

While you rush to and from pay max attention because it's very slippery around there. Also, a big sign says "no diving" so in case you should find a particularly slippery section and loose some traction you might find yourself braking the no diving rule inadvertedly. Might not be easy to explain to the security guys.

HTH

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1120451]Basically, if the girl agrees, you can have sex anywhere in the club except for the sauna and the pool. Girls get fucked in their ass on the bar stools downstairs sometimes.

HB[/QUOTE]Oh that sounds great! Sometimes with the right girl its fun to do it in "public".

And just to make me look even more forward to my visit next Saturday, would you or anyone els say that the boobs been bigger or more girls with bigger over the last year? I am such a big (Y) lover you can't imagine.

Implants should be free from the gouvermant.

this is my final report from my week in berlin. i didn't have much time today though as i had a 6 pm flight to catch and i knew that artemis is usually very quiet on sunday mornings so i was looking out for talent right from 11 am when i showered and had breakfast there.

unfortunately there wasn't much around until a girl i have reported on already this week turned up. i smiled at her and she smiled back but she went immediately for breakfast herself. a clue as to this gir's identity. she is 23 and her star sign is aquarius. anyway, she reemerged from the breakfast room and i caught her eye again as she settled down at the bar to have a tea. i was expecting her to come over to me when she had finished drinking and had a cigarette, however when i next looked up she was chatting to some other guy. after a few minutes they went off to a room and i was prepared to wait 30 minutes for her. i went to the loo after 10 minutes and saw her guy in the changing room so i speedily returned to the lounge and yes, she reappeared very quickly. i didn't muck about this time and went straight up to her. she didn't want any chit-chat so we went right upstairs (room 15). to cut things short she was a real star and we spent an hour together, including the cim bonus. well deserved on her part.

i then hung around the club a bit more and after a sauna and a swim there was a czech girl i smiled at but next thing she wasn't at my side but blowing some other guy in the kino. so i called it a day and left.

i am returning to artemis 11/12/13 march. if anyone would like to meet up. do drop me a line! there is a travel messe on then so things should be busy, but hopefully there will be a lot of interesting girls there too.

Please file a report after your visit. Would Like to know the extent of public sex. Thanks.

Icarus; 1120506]Oh that sounds great! Sometimes with the right girl its fun to do it in "public".

And just to make me look even more forward to my visit next Saturday, would you or anyone els say that the boobs been bigger or more girls with bigger over the last year? I am such a big (Y) lover you can't imagine.

Implants should be free from the gouvermant. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Customx]Please file a report after your visit. Would Like to know the extent of public sex. Thanks.[/QUOTE]No problem, I will happily do that. :)

[QUOTE=Customx;1120514]Please file a report after your visit. Would Like to know the extent of public sex. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have never seen much in the way of public sex at Artemis apart from in the kinos. Otherwise I have just witnessed some fondling and snogging on the cushions at the bottom of the stairs. However, there are lots of indicators that it does take place, such as the strategically placed kitchen roll all over the smoking lounge.

I have had sex in the beds which have curtains in that room but the girl I was with insisted on closing them tightly (she even tried to keep them shut with her shoes). The disadvantage of these tent-like spaces is that it is very dark in there. However they do seem to be used quite frequently and it is quite fun when the occupants get noisy!

I'd be interested to know when the sex in public takes place. Although I expect that I'm usually tucked up in bed (alone) at that time.

[QUOTE=London Traveller]I'd be interested to know when the sex in public takes place. Although I expect that I'm usually tucked up in bed (alone) at that time.[/QUOTE]While public sex at Artemis is with in "the rules" it is not, in my experience, all that common outside the kino. I imagine this has more to do with us mongers than it has to do with the ladies. That is, if you are willing to pay I am sure a number of ladies would be willing to provide.

Ass fucking on the bar stools? Maybe but I have never seen it. I have seen a FFM threesome on one of the couches. And several rather public, curtains open sessions on the beds in the bar.

If you are going to see public sex I would say it is more likely to be when the place is hopping and rooms are in short supply. Personally, were I into public sex, I would look for a more swingers club or partytreff atmosphere. Insomna in Berlin might be a good place to look.

AM

Lads. I will probably get some flack for this, but am throwing it out there. There have been a number of lengthy entries recently that IMHO are really wide of the purpose of the forum: to provide useful, interesting public information, insight, helpful tips, who and what to enjoy, and who and what to avoid, etc.

Wistful entries that go on about who smoked cigars where; chronological tracking about what time they arrived, how long was spent in the loo; architectural critiques; how interesting was a meal, etc, and trysts with people who cannot be named (so what is the point of telling us?) are best kept, if at all, in a personal diary or a private notebook for a novel. These can be privately re-lived on some rainy afternoon, sipping a glass of cherry, in a rocking chair, perhaps with a little Bach in the background, recalling how it was back in the day. But please, spare us here.

I understand this is a public forum, that writing should be colorful, and I am not arguing for dry, factoid twitter-like prose. But would be auteurs really would serve us all better by brevity, by providing info of public vs. Highly private interest, and by sticking to the plot. That is all I shall say on this subject.

. . .

In passing. Some other locals and I had gone increasingly sour on Artemis's devolution over the past year, with an overreliance on young spinners and sharky girls, kitchen problems, and was even diagnosed by Herr Doktor Magee as suffering from Mongers Malaise. However, there has been a noticable fresh infusion of voluptuous new (or reconstructed) talent, and the thrill is back. Shelby & Renee seriously carrying the torch. Recommended.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1120628]While public sex at Artemis is with in "the rules" it is not, in my experience, all that common outside the kino. I would look for a more swingers club or partytreff atmosphere. Insomnia in Berlin might be a good place to look.

AM[/QUOTE]This very subject came up in a recent 1st Quarter Review discussion with the pool-side massage A-team who said last year, there was an epic performance where some wealthy, possibly coked-out monger was at it all over the place. Pool chairs, bar, stairs, back sofas, etc. Apparently this went on for more than 3 hours, non-stop. The spectacle was viewed and recounted by all in quite graphic detail, which I guess was the point, and the girl was exhausted (who'the a thunk it?). I've also seen once a blowjob given on the main stairway, towards downstairs, and all had to gingerly walk around the couple. So it does happen, but not the norm.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1120661]So it does happen, but not the norm.[/QUOTE]I will then do my best to incrase these kind of things, this weekend.

Anyone can estimate cost and time requested for a taxi from Artemis to Schönefeld airport in the early morning?

Lets say around 5am. Ahaha.

To Tegel it usually costs around 15.

Sorry for the OT.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1120753]Anyone can estimate cost and time requested for a taxi from Artemis to Schönefeld airport in the early morning?

Lets say around 5am. Ahaha.

To Tegel it usually costs around 15.

Sorry for the OT.

Ciao[/QUOTE]Using the taxi fare calculator (I am not sure how accurate this is) the fare came to €47. 61. Keep in mind that the route they seem to calculate was right through town. There must be a faster way (and presumably less expensive) way to get there. But from my own knowledge of taxi fares in Berlin I would say at least €40 +. Taxi from Art to my place in Schöneberg is between 16 & 18 Euros and I live a way from the airport.

[url]http://www.worldtaximeter.com/berlin[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1120771]Using the taxi fare calculator (I am not sure how accurate this is) the fare came to €47. 61. Keep in mind that the route they seem to calculate was right through town. There must be a faster way (and presumably less expensive) way to get there. But from my own knowledge of taxi fares in Berlin I would say at least €40 +. Taxi from Art to my place in Schöneberg is between 16 & 18 Euros and I live a way from the airport.

[url]http://www.worldtaximeter.com/berlin[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]thanks so much Angus, I didn't know the site.

It also says 22 minutes trip. Even doubling the estimate it still fits good for my plans.

Good to know.

Again thanks.

Kimino

Public sex is allowed in the bar room (I have seen it 4 or 5 times). Jenna for example can give you a blowjob there.

It's also allowed on the big couch in front of the wellness area downstairs. I've seen it only one time.

And its possible in the bar area downstairs (but not in the wellness area, that's forbidden). Maybe I want to try it while watching football in TV.). I'm early I have never seen it. But its not forbidden.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1120500]Some people, actually most people, leave the towels on the beds after they leave. The cleaners usually pass and pick them up but if you want to get one immediately you simply take off the used towels and put yours.

But remember to wash your hands after touching the used towel, you never know.

This means you will need an extra towel to dry your hands after washing them.

At the same time, you should be quick enough to go back to the sun bed after washing your hands BEFORE someone else removes your new towels from the sun bed.

One strategy could be to free up 2 sun beds and relative towels, rush to wash your hands, grab the new towels after drying your hands and rush back to the sun beds hoping that at least one of them is still free.

While you rush to and from pay max attention because it's very slippery around there. Also, a big sign says "no diving" so in case you should find a particularly slippery section and loose some traction you might find yourself braking the no diving rule inadvertedly. Might not be easy to explain to the security guys.

HTH[/QUOTE]Thanks man. I guess you are one of those persons.

But you actually made me think how to solve the problem. Next time I will just turn a bed upside down and then back again, leaving the used towel on the floor. How simple can things be?

Norjan, saving up for my next visit

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1120656]However, there has been a noticable fresh infusion of voluptuous new (or reconstructed) talent, and the thrill is back. Shelby & Renee seriously carrying the torch. Recommended.[/QUOTE]Shelby and Renee? Sounds very interesting, what do they look like?

Norjan

Dooes anyone know what the price tag for a lesbian show would be?

I mean just watching two girls going down on each other etc in a room and not participate your self.

Norjan, saving up

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1120798]Shelby and Renee? Sounds very interesting, what do they look like?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Renee, If it's the one I think, has a beautiful face, always with strong but nice makeup. Long blonde hair, almost platinum (last time I saw her). She is a very nice and sweet girl, kind of a large ass.

I went with her quite a few times but didn't session in the last 3/4 visits.

The only threesome I did in artemis I did with her and another girl.

Shelby, beats me. A very popular name, probably even sessioned with her but can't figure out who she is.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Norjan;1120796]But you actually made me think how to solve the problem. Next time I will just turn a bed upside down and then back again, leaving the used towel on the floor. How simple can things be?[/QUOTE]Please Norjan let me know when this will be. I dearly would like to be there to watch as security throws you out the front door, without giving you the chance to dress (I have seen this happen) into the clutches of the Westkreuz gypsy gang.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1120825]Please Norjan let me know when this will be. I dearly would like to be there to watch as security throws you out the front door, without giving you the chance to dress (I have seen this happen) into the clutches of the Westkreuz gypsy gang.

AM[/QUOTE]March 18, 19, maybe even 20, if lucky. So, if this is about to happen, your best chance will probably be March 18.

Norjan

I may be visiting Artemis tomorrow (Wednesday). Let me know if anyone likes to say Hi.

If anyone knows the working whereabouts of a tall slim and very sweet character Brazil girl with natural B cups (nearly C) and slim face and was working at Oase last summer under name Cynthia and previously at Palace under name Kimi, I would be pleased to hear. I am posting in Artemis since she is reported to have worked there at some point. Her standard greeting to favouries is "Honey!". . Good Deutsch and moderate English ability.

Drives a black sports car I believe.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1120506]Oh that sounds great! Sometimes with the right girl its fun to do it in "public".

And just to make me look even more forward to my visit next Saturday, would you or anyone els say that the boobs been bigger or more girls with bigger over the last year? I am such a big (Y) lover you can't imagine.[/QUOTE]I'm also at the club on Saturday. Hopefully there will be some public action!

I've just come from Artemis. The big fruit logistics messe starting tomorrow (about which I was warned about before) seems to have drawn quite a crowd. There wasn't even enough space to stand at times and dozens of people were still coming in (or at least trying to) at 2 am while I was leaving.

I managed to get some nice sessions with girls I had a relation going on before, but I wouldn't recommend visiting this week.

As for the two fellow ISG mongers who already have their plans set: Try to arrive early on.

As an upside of the messe crowd, there was a great girl selection to choose from (if you can find them in the sea of people, that is.) One could use this 'opportunity' to try new talent.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1121605]As an upside of the messe crowd, there was a great girl selection to choose from (if you can find them in the sea of people, that is.) One could use this 'opportunity' to try new talent.[/QUOTE]If ever you are going to see public sex at Artemis this is the weekend. The fruit logistics crowd are a randy bunch I hear. Go figure.

I actually turned around at the door last year during this event last year at the recommendation of the desk lady. As Nebula suggests-if your plans are set, arrive early to get a seat.

AM

Shelby told me that many ladies will be present this weekend because:

"The fruit men are here"

Something to ponder on.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1121605]I've just come from Artemis. The big fruit logistics messe starting tomorrow (about which I was warned about before) seems to have drawn quite a crowd. There wasn't even enough space to stand at times and dozens of people were still coming in (or at least trying to) at 2 am while I was leaving.[/QUOTE]I would hate to guess what the average waiting time for a room would tally during prime hours? It must be astronomical.

[QUOTE=Ortos;1121899]I would hate to guess what the average waiting time for a room would tally during prime hours? It must be astronomical.[/QUOTE]One of the very rare occasions in which I'm happy not to be there!

Maybe.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1121605]I've just come from Artemis. The big fruit logistics messe starting tomorrow (about which I was warned about before) seems to have drawn quite a crowd. There wasn't even enough space to stand at times and dozens of people were still coming in (or at least trying to) at 2 am while I was leaving.

I managed to get some nice sessions with girls I had a relation going on before, but I wouldn't recommend visiting this week.

As for the two fellow ISG mongers who already have their plans set: Try to arrive early on.

As an upside of the messe crowd, there was a great girl selection to choose from (if you can find them in the sea of people, that is.) One could use this 'opportunity' to try new talent.[/QUOTE]I was there too. A nightmare. Just too many people.

I saw you at one point. About 9pm you were ensconced on a sofa opposite the bar with some blonde wrapped around you. Wasn't feeling especially sociable, so I didn't come to say Hello. Next time.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1121913]One of the very rare occasions in which I'm happy not to be there!

Maybe. [/QUOTE]For all you worriers. It's really not a big deal if you go early say 1530 and leave by 2130 (as I did today). It was full but not overwhelmingly so, lockers were available, rooms were available without wait, if you just delay slightly eating, kitchen room was essentially empty, and most important, the A team was still relaxed. However, past 2130 the storm clouds were clearly gathering and there were lots of stories about it being insanely crowded past 2230. But really, you have to be mad to think you'the get anything like a GFE experience that late during a Messe. I mean the poor things have smoke pouring out of their privates. But cum early and it's no problemo.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1121967]For all you worriers. It's really not a big deal if you go early say 1530 and leave by 2130 (as I did today). It was full but not overwhelmingly so, lockers were available, rooms were available without wait, if you just delay slightly eating, kitchen room was essentially empty, and most important, the A team was still relaxed.[/QUOTE]Dammit, Rocketboy! Here I was thinking that I was free from my addiction this week. Now I have to go and see for myself.

I will be there from 11-05.

Eat, fuck, sleep, repeat.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1122000]Dammit, Rocketboy! Here I was thinking that I was free from my addiction this week. Now I have to go and see for myself.[/QUOTE]"Just when I thought I was out...they pull me back in." Sil doing Pacino.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si4rMCJBD3E&feature=related[/url]

AM

Hi Tjohoo.

Thanks for your reports, very nice reading.

The girls you went with, Nina, Fatima, Marketa, could you describe what they look like a little more in detail?

Length, hair colour, hair style, breast size, silicon / natural, eye colour, skin colour, clothing, jewellery, tattoos etc.

I would appreciate it very much if you did (or anyone else reading this).

I'm planning my mid-March visit.

Norjan, saving up Euros

LOL you are funny Norjan. I can see you walking around with your notbook.

And my trip? I missed the #+% plane. A N T I C L I M A X

[QUOTE=Norjan;1123328]I'm planning my mid-March visit.[/QUOTE]Same here. I'll be there on 15/16, just in case.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1121926]I saw you at one point. About 9pm you were ensconced on a sofa opposite the bar with some blonde wrapped around you. Wasn't feeling especially sociable, so I didn't come to say Hello. Next time.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hey Charlie.

I somehow overlooked your post until now. I'll probably drop by tomorrow (Thursday) to try my luck again.

Any feedback from "The weekend of the vegetable men"?

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1124330]Any feedback from "The weekend of the vegetable men"?[/QUOTE]I also wonder. I'would never even think about visiting when there is a fruit messe.

I've heard that the fruit and vegetable men are a really nasty and abnormally randy horde of rough-asses and because they visit the club so infrequent, the farmers almost go on a rampage at the club once inside. It's like they loose control of them selves. I've also heard that they don't care too much about their hygiene.

Think I'm kidding? Ask the girls.

Norjan

I've just come home from Artemis. (Couldn't make it on Thursday.) Nice girl selection. There were quite a lot of men, but it wasn't too crowded. Everything nice and smooth.

[QUOTE=Traveller Uk;1124330]Any feedback from "The weekend of the vegetable men"?[/QUOTE]It turns out that the night before the messe starts (e. G. The Wednesday night) was the worst night to visit. I guess all the messe people had arrived but didn't have much to do business-wise that day. The days afterwards were much more manageable. From my experience and from what I heard, the "sea of people" thing didn't happen again after Wednesday. Though of course it was still more crowded than usual.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1124352]I've also heard that they don't care too much about their hygiene.

Think I'm kidding? Ask the girls. [/QUOTE]Yes! In fact, I saw quite a lot of people doing bukkake which, as I'm sure you're aware of, involves ejaculating into the glasses they got from the bar. So, I'd bring my own disposable plastic glasses with me if I were you.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1124850]Yes! In fact, I saw quite a lot of people doing bukkake which, as I'm sure you're aware of, involves ejaculating into the glasses they got from the bar.[/QUOTE]Really? How did it taste?

Norjan

There are several girls at Artemis who could really benefit from an unpolished non-couth rural "seeing to". A certain Hungarian girl comes to mind.

This needs to be followed up with conventions for Mediterrean sailors and French truck drivers at ICC. Makes the rest of us seem like total gentlemen.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1124352]I've heard that the fruit and vegetable men are a really nasty and abnormally randy horde of rough-asses and because they visit the club so infrequent, the farmers almost go on a rampage at the club once inside. It's like they loose control of them selves. I've also heard that they don't care too much about their hygiene.

Norjan[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1125611]This needs to be followed up with conventions for Mediterrean sailors and French truck drivers at ICC. Makes the rest of us seem like total gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I agree. On my visits I've seen that most guys are very unsophisticated. I've seen truck drivers with 5 day beard-stubble walking in with dirty boots and clothes.

Another thing that I really dislike is guys who is laughing behind a girls back after saying something mean about her to a male friend. If anyone reading this do that, please do it elsewhere.

I wish the guests where all a little more like London Traveller, I saw him during the IFA-messe, laying on the bed at the base of the stair a whole evening, disturbing no one, just observing.

Norjan

Hi everybody, my last visit to Artemis was unfortunately a very short experience, due to my business obstacles. I was here on Tuesday, after the Messe week, and my impression was that the level of the girls was not so high, but it depend also on my arrival time, a bit too early maybe. Anyway, after one hour that I spent trying to recognize some of my favourite girls (according to your precious reports) finally I met Maria, the Hungarian blonde: wonderful body, very pretty, nice attitude, after a quick stop in the kino downstairs we went up. A good session, but not as I really wanted: she kisses, but not deeply, she likes to have her pussy licked, but no fingering, good positions and cim ending. She has a really wonderful body and that is worth enough, but. I don't know. It has not clicked something.

Unfortunately I had to leave early, so I can only wait for my next time in Berlin. In the Berlin thread I'm going to report some other brief experiences. Thanks for everything.

Alleng

[QUOTE=Norjan;1125827]I agree. On my visits I've seen that most guys are very unsophisticated.Norjan[/QUOTE]Well, maybe you've just picked some bad nights. Or perhaps you mistook the entrance for that of the Foreign Ministry, or the Ritz Carlton? But last time I checked Artemis was a large brothel. In such places, looser morals and codes of behavior rule. That's not license for blokes to be bad and boorish, but really does come with the territory. That's also why there's extensive video surveillance and security. Teddy Roosevelt's warning about heat and kitchens comes to mind. We're looking for some recent detailed reports on the high end venues to see if they're really a cut above. Perhaps you'the care to invest?

Meanwhile, the rest of us are far more interested in the women. Let us stick to the plot.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1127123]Well, maybe you've just picked some bad nights. Or perhaps you mistook the entrance for that of the Foreign Ministry, or the Ritz Carlton?[/QUOTE]LOL.

Reminds me about the (very) old joke about the tourist in Marrakech who tells the taxi driver to take him to the Embassy. The driver pulls up in front of a dingy building in the worst part of town. In the entrance lobby he can see scantily dressed ladies of ill-repute slumped on the floor next to suited business types smoking opium pipes. 'No, you fool' he says to the driver, 'not the British Embassy, take me to the Embassy nightclub'.

C

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1127123]We're looking for some recent detailed reports on the high end venues to see if they're really a cut above. Perhaps you'the care to invest?[/QUOTE]Artemis is the only place I know in Berlin, in fact I have'nt even seen any other place in the city, except for some restaurants and hotels.

High end venues? I would be happy to pay a visit, and write a detailed report, but I don't know where to find them. Also don't know the prices for that kind of club.

Norjan, counting the days

[QUOTE=Norjan;1127233]...High end venues? I would be happy to pay a visit, and write a detailed report, but I don't know where to find them. Also don't know the prices for that kind of club. Norjan, counting the days[/QUOTE]Great. You can try Bel Ami (near Olympic Stadium [url]http://www.belami-berlin.de/[/url]) and Villa Rascone ([url]http://www.rascona.de/[/url]) Konstanzer Str U bahn. No info on prices but they are surely double Art's. But perhaps the classy gentlemen, fine cultivated women, and strict high standards of hygiene will make it worthwhile. We eagerly await your reports.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1127456]Great. You can try Bel Ami (near Olympic Stadium.

[url]http://www.belami-berlin.de/[/url]

) and Villa Rascone (

[url]http://www.rascona.de/[/url]

) Konstanzer Str U bahn. No info on prices but they are surely double Art's. But perhaps the classy gentlemen, fine cultivated women, and strict high standards of hygiene will make it worthwhile. We eagerly await your reports. [/QUOTE]Thanks.

Is there a forum here on ISG to disccuss these clubs?

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1127477]Thanks.

Is there a forum here on ISG to disccuss these clubs? [/QUOTE]No specific forum discusses these clubs. However there is some info on both clubs in the Berlin thread. Info is sketchy thus the need for further reportage. I would do it myself had I the financial resources. Sadly, I do not. Some one who carries hundred of €s around in his hat & socks might just be able to crack these treasure troves.

Up for the job Norjan?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1127480]No specific forum discusses these clubs. However there is some info on both clubs in the Berlin thread. Info is sketchy thus the need for further reportage. I would do it myself had I the financial resources. Sadly, I do not. Some one who carries hundred of €s around in his hat & socks might just be able to crack these treasure troves.

Up for the job Norjan?

AM[/QUOTE]I'm very tempted, very, but the lack of information about the clubs probably makes it impossible.

It took me a lot of effort, a lot, to get my self to Artemis the first time but now I know the place quite well.

I'm heading for Berlin in three weeks and I don't think I have the time enough to make up plans.

Euros is no problem, I've been saving up a couple of months now.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1127515]I'm very tempted, very, but the lack of information about the clubs probably makes it impossible. It took me a lot of effort, a lot, to get my self to Artemis the first time but now I know the place quite well. I'm heading for Berlin in three weeks and I don't think I have the time enough to make up plans.

Euros is no problem, I've been saving up a couple of months now. Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan. Sent you all the websites, all easily within reach of Berlin's excellent transit system. All 15-20 min tops from city center. I should think 30 minutes would be enough to plan and you have three weeks yet. Plus they all look immaculately clean. You can do it; we working class stiffs are counting on you for some up to date reports.

[u]Thursday 24th Feb.[/u]

I flew into a bitterly cold Berlin on business on Wednesday. I got my work finished pretty quickly so I was able to spend a few hours at the Artemis on Thursday.

I arrived around 15. 30 and there was a good sized crowd in probably 10 men to 20 women. After taking a walk around and having a nice sauna I decided to have my first session.

[b]Petra (Bulgaria)[/b]

Petra sat beside me in the main bar and after a little chit-chat we headed upstairs. She is a reasonably pretty brunette with great tits I enquired about extras and as far as I could make out she only charges extra for anal or CIM. We had a fun session, she gave great head and was in no rush to get back downstairs after we finished. Possible repeat.

After a nice rest, some tea and cigarettes I was ready round 2.

[b]Adrianna (Poland)[/b]

I spotted this stunning little blonde at the bar and hoped to catch her eye. She was throwing a bunch of pole-dancer poses; sticking her ass out, twirling on the spot and jiggling her amazing tits. I gave her a big smile during one of her twirls and she sashay'the over to me. We had a nice conversation, she was a real delight to talk to and we soon headed up stairs.

This was one of the best sessions I've ever had in Artemis. She is a beautiful young woman, amazing tits, long blonde hair, cute face and barely 5 foot tall when she kicks off her stripper shoes. She reminded me a lot of porn star Jasmine Rouge – we had a great time and the site of her bent over the bed while I take her from behind in a standing-doggie position will stay with me for long time. I felt my orgasm building and building and when it hit I was almost knocked off me feet. Superb. €20 tip on top of the standard €60. Money very well spent.

More relaxation, a swim and some food later and I was ready to go again. There were a couple of girls that kept catching my eye that I wanted to approach but everytime I was ready for action they were no where to be seen. Frustrating indeed. After cooling my heels for a while I spotted one of my choices in the doorway of the main bar where the gambling machines are. I walked over and introduced myself.

[b]Lorreana (Columbia)[/b]

She is a beautiful, Latino Goddess. 5 foot nothing of the best curves I've seen in a long time, great tits and ass and a stunning smile. Unfortunately the session didn't match up to her great looks. This was kind of my fault as I didn't establish what I was interested in before we headed upstairs.

As soon as we got in the door she started talking about €120 for massage and sex. I told her I wasn't after a massage and just wanted the standard €60 session but according to her the standard didn't include a lot of what I would call standard activities; licking and sucking her tits for example. I probably should have bailed there and then but when one of the most beautiful women I've ever seen is standing naked in front of me I capable of clear thought. So we got down to it.

The sex was pretty great when we got going. After a few positions we shifted to doggie style, which looked amazing in the mirrors. Just as I was about to come she started rolling and bouncing her hips which produced an amazingly hard orgasm from me. I enjoyed our time together but I should have clarified what I wanted from the session downstairs.

[u]Friday 25th[/u]

I had a few hours to kill on Friday evening and I wanted to experience an Artemis Friday night atmosphere.

I arrived around 18:00 and there was a good, lively buzz in the place. There was a group of English lads gathered on the long couch behind the bar, they must have been a stag party, who were adding to the Friday atmosphere. More importantly there were loads of women walking about. It never fails to amaze me the beauty of the women who work there. Some real beauties. There was one girl that strolled through the bar a few times and I was instantly hooked. She was tall with a really pretty face and a great smile but what was cathing my eye was her most prominent feature; her tits. They were easily the biggest there, even bigger than Jennas. After giving her a little wave she sat down beside me. And after a really nice conversation we headed upstairs.

[b]Julie (Germany)[/b]

This was such a great session I'm smiling as I think about it. Her tits and face are genuinely stunning she has loads of piercing (including her one in her clit) and loads of interesting tattoos. After a killer session (those mirrors are a real godsend) we lay panting on the bed for a few minutes chatting away. She has a truly sweet personality and is a real joy to spend time with.

€60 + €20 tip. Best money I spent in my two days at the club. And possible my best ever session there.

I was pretty wiped out by now but I had to have one last session. I spotted a cute brunette at the bar and whisked her up stairs pretty promptly.

[b]Isabella (Moldovia)[/b]

This was a pretty standard session except for one thing – she wouldn't do doggie style. I was in no mood to argue so we worked our way through a variety of positions before finishing in missionary. Good session but nothing special. Not a repeat.

So that was my 2 days at Artemis. Sessions rated between 'best ever' and 'nothing special' but overall I had a great time and I love that little tingle on anticipation you get in your stomach walking from the train station to the club. You can't beat it.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1127579]Norjan. Sent you all the websites, all easily within reach of Berlin's excellent transit system. All 15-20 min tops from city center. I should think 30 minutes would be enough to plan and you have three weeks yet. Plus they all look immaculately clean. You can do it; we working class stiffs are counting on you for some up to date reports.[/QUOTE]There is just too little information on the web sites, in fact nothing at all. I need a lot more info to feel secure about going. Also you gave me the site.

[url]www.belami-berlin.de[/url]

But I found.

[url]www.belamiberlin.de[/url]

Which seem to be the right one? The sites represent two different clubs.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1127595]There is just too little information on the web sites, in fact nothing at all. I need a lot more info to feel secure about going. Also you gave me a site.But I found.

[url]www.belamiberlin.de[/url]

Which seem to be the right one? [/QUOTE]You're right-it's the second one. Sorry. Forgot there were 2. See how good you are at this. Anyway that one is pretty famous allegedly (Ben Afleck, Kevin Kosner, I bet Charley Sheen must have been there as well.). The Rascone was reviewed somewhere maybe in the Berlin site. But it's very old review and not so much detail. But all easy to reach. You'the be fine. Probably a lot less stress than Artemis. Anyway, let us know if and when.

I was at Artemis on February Thursday 18th in the afternoon. More men than average based on my experiences (my last visit was one year ago anyway) , so men were more than women but there was a nice girl selection indeed.

As usual I 'test' the girls in the kino area downstairs, where I usually get some foreplay plus blowjob before heading up to a room.

My encounters in brief were with:

Katriana: Russia (Siberia) , tall, blonde. Nice session. I would repeat.

Hellen: German, blonde, beautiful. Bad service though. I had a bad vibe but she was so good looking so I was weak. She was still like wood. I will never repeat and since I've had bad session with too many german girls now in the future I will try to avoid.

Carolina: Lituania, brown hair, not short herself as well. Good session, best of the day.

A girl from Spain, brown hair, blue eyes, she said it was her 22 birthday (well everyone spends their birthday as they wish). Not very customer oriented, bad blowjob (kind of handjob licking the top of the penis, even though the blowjob she did in the kino was better) , the rest not bad but I would not repeat.

So a mixed experience this time but I tend to remember the good encounters over the bad ones.

Sadly this is the second time I got a STD at Artemis. In 2007 I got a strong gonorrhea, this time it seems something more bland (still I have to do all the tests).

Cheers.

Buck

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers; 1127952]Sadly this is the second time I got a STD at Artemis. In 2007 I got a strong gonorrhea, this time it seems something more bland (still I have to do all the tests).

Cheers.

Buck[/QUOTE]Whats your symptoms? Seems like thera are STD:s all over FKK land now. I read in the World thread about two guys that got gonorrhea when visiting this February.

If you got it at Artemis, more people must have caught it too.

I think of cancelling my trip.

Norjan

My symptoms are not heavy but still it is something to be taken care of:

- a bit of while liquid coming out.

- a bit of burning when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url], it hurts a bit when in erection, the ejaculation hurts a bit more.

- sometime it itches

The Hospital is going to call me to visit me beetween Monday and Wednesday.

STDs are a well known risk if you decide to monger. If I think about it the girl that gave me this, she surely had a lot of other encounters and the other men had other girls as well and so on.

I don't know the % one can pass the desease to the other. The problem is that women are often asymptomatic (ex. Gonorrhea and chlamydia) so they might not know to have the desease but we notice if we got something.

In my case I hadn't mongered for a year and the first time after 1 year I got one STD right away! Lucky.

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1127952]Hellen: German, blonde, beautiful. Bad service though. I had a bad vibe but she was so good looking so I was weak. She was still like wood. I will never repeat and since I've had bad session with too many german girls now in the future I will try to avoid.[/QUOTE]Is Hellen maybe Helena? Tall, dark hair, lot of piercing, definitely good looking?

If it' her I'm kind of surprised, she is one of my favorites right now.

I remember myself writing exactly the same stuff about german girls on a report, maybe one year ago. Next time I visited Artemis I went with 3 german girls in a row and was totally happy about that. Ahaha.

All the best!

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers; 1128123]My symptoms are not heavy but still it is something to be taken care of:

- a bit of while liquid coming out.

- a bit of burning when [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url], it hurts a bit when in erection, the ejaculation hurts a bit more.

- sometime it itches

The Hospital is going to call me to visit me beetween Monday and Wednesday.

STDs are a well known risk if you decide to monger. If I think about it the girl that gave me this, she surely had a lot of other encounters and the other men had other girls as well and so on.

In my case I hadn't mongered for a year and the first time after 1 year I got one STD right away! Lucky. [/QUOTE]Buck. Sorry you're going through all this, brave of you to post all, and as Charley123 mentioned last week. It's quite useful. Please, if you feel up to it, and when you know:

Can you let us know what the actual STD diagnosis is, and

Given the normal incubation period etc. Do you really think it was via Artemis or could it have been another prior encounter? (If you think you even know who. You can PM me.).

Thanks

[QUOTE=Kimino;1128360]I remember myself writing exactly the same stuff about german girls on a report, maybe one year ago. Next time I visited Artemis I went with 3 german girls in a row and was totally happy about that.[/QUOTE]On this discussion about nationalities and talent, this has been discussed before. There are great women, and not so great, everywhere, it's difficult to judge from the population in bordellos, and your own experiences may of course vary. I would only say that based on a fair bit of (my) experience, German girls, in general, seriously rock.

Hellen: she is blonde (might be fake) but not piercing at all so it is another one. She said she was from Hamburg.

German girls: I had my luck with German girls (best experiences in apartments though, ex Koeln) but then I experienced various bad sessions in a row at Artemis. I'm sure I will try german girls again one day. The only ones that I avoid by default are Romanian girls but it is a personal issue.

Overall my best experiences are with Russian and ex USSR countries girls (such us Lithuania)

STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.

I will have my visit on Wednesday morning and they will probably give me some antibiotics but I don't know if they will be able to tell me what exactly is at once without further tests.

Mongering can be "hard" in more than one sense.

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1128457]STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.[/QUOTE]A Spanish girl. Well, at least I, am not surprised. By now, who knows how many persons hav gotten infected, girls and mongers. No one knows cause not many guys report about things like this. Buck Rogers, I hope you will recover quickly.

This I think ruin my plans, and I have flight tickets and all, bad news really bad news. I've been waiting six months.

Even thou I never go with southern european looking girls, avoiding the germs must be reallly tricky by now.

Maybe I will fly to Berlin anyway, doing normal tourist things. Yes, sounds like a lot of fun.

Norjan

You're not seriously considering to cancel your visit to Artemis? What do you think, that there's some kind of epidemic spreading rapidly in the club? Give yourself a break, calm down, go to Artemis and have a good time.

HB

This Friday, I managed to escape from my travel company for a short visit at Artemis.

I arrived a bit after 14. 00 and it was a nice, calm atmosphere. However, the "chase" seemed to increase after that and I realised I have to do a selection to not miss my "window" of time.

After some hesitations between options, I selected Marketa (CZ) , which turned out to be a good one. She was really nice and a real good encounter, as I now also read here in this thread. I just concur what others already written!

Among the options, there was a new Hungarian girl, next door type, with braces. Really tempting. Anyone having experiences? She told me she's been at Artemis for 5 days.

When reading this thread, I became a bit scared of the STD risk of course, but as HB wrote, there is no reason for panic.

If someone feels a bit nervous about the STD risk, just keep the entire session protected, after all, that is way better than running around ogling Brandenburger Tor! .

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1128457]STD: It is 100% coming from Artemis. I started feeling something on Saturday (I was at Artemis on Thursday) so a 2 days incubation period. I can't possible know which girl was but when you go to Artemis I can feel some girls are cleaner and some less (less showers?). The spanish one from Madrid was the one that gave me the sensation to be less clean.[/QUOTE]Ciao Buck Rogers, I'm sorry for the situation.

I found this page with incubation times of STD.

[url]http://std.about.com/od/overviewofstds/a/incubationper.htm[/url]

All the best!

[QUOTE=Blue Swede;1128516]After some hesitations between options, I selected Marketa (CZ) , which turned out to be a good one. She was really nice and a real good encounter, as I now also read here in this thread. I just concur what others already written![/QUOTE]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.

And you know what I did right? That's right my friends! I cornholed her deep up in that Czech butthole of hers and was saying out loud so all in the kino could hear how I was fucking her in her asshole. Was surprised that such a petite little girl like that was taking it so well up the yin yang.

That asshole was TIGHT and had to work my way up in there. Almost thought I wasn't going to make it. If that was Marketa (that's the name I remember anyway) , then she was a damn good butt fuck! Her friend didn't do anal but spit all over my dick (I LOVE that) then took one hell of a hard and rough slam fuck (received many knowing smiles from them both later throughout the evening).

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1128500]You're not seriously considering to cancel your visit to Artemis? What do you think, that there's some kind of epidemic spreading rapidly in the club? Give yourself a break, calm down, go to Artemis and have a good time.

HB[/QUOTE]I am seriously considering to cancel. What says there is not an epidemic? You think that only one single girl at Artemis is a carrier and that she only pass it on to one single guy? That's very unlikely.

If one girl gives a guy an STD, it is very unlikely that she has not given it to other guys. How many guys do you think she have been with since February 18? One hundered? That's not unlikely.

And how many girls do you think the avarage monger go with on one night at Artemis? 3-4? That's not unlikely either.

You do the math.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1128840]You do the math.

Norjan[/QUOTE]If you trust your own maths based upon only 2 reports on this board and come to the conclusion there is an epedimy then indeed you must cancel your trip.

How did you do your maths and what definition of an epedimy did you use and what was your input-data?

As stated many times already. There is always a limited risk getting infected. The 2 recent reports her (and none on German or Dutch boards) only prove this limited risk and show no prove for an epedimy.

If you do not accept this limited risk (which is difficult to quantify) then indeed better you do not visit FKK's. If you are good at maths then also perform a calaculation of the risk getting involved in a Car or flight accident and compare this risk with the infection risk in a FKK. Or even better perform a FMEA analysis where you do not take into account only the [b]risk[/b] But also the [b]effect[/b]. Goodluck with the calculations!

B30

[QUOTE=Norjan;1128840]do the math.[/QUOTE]Better stay home Norjan. Leave the higher mathematics to those with the numbers for head. What with the gypsies and the clap Berlin is a cesspool. Some things even spray on bandaids can not help.

An STD outbreak (real or imagined) at the local watering hole is after all what separates the mongers from the weekend warriors. As Big30 note below, life, and especially FKK life, involves this risk. These "epidemic" (please note the quotes) fears are basically groundless. At least from what I have read on the boards recently. Had I the funds to back it up I would be there tonight to prove it to you.

AM

[QUOTE=The Cane;1128539]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's her! I was offered a combo with them both, but decided to take one of them, took a while to decide which.

I was however pleased with the choice.

Blue

[QUOTE=Big30; 1128844]If you trust your own maths based upon only 2 reports on this board and come to the conclusion there is an epedimy then indeed you must cancel your trip.

How did you do your maths and what definition of an epedimy did you use and what was your input-data?

As stated many times already. There is always a limited risk getting infected. The 2 recent reports her (and none on German or Dutch boards) only prove this limited risk and show no prove for an epedimy.

If you do not accept this limited risk (which is difficult to quantify) then indeed better you do not visit FKK's. If you are good at maths then also perform a calaculation of the risk getting involved in a Car or flight accident and compare this risk with the infection risk in a FKK. Or even better perform a FMEA analysis where you do not take into account only the [b]risk[/b] But also the [b]effect[/b]. Goodluck with the calculations!

B30[/QUOTE]I haven't said there is an epidemy, HB used that word below and I simply responded "What says there is not an epidemy?"

I haven't done the math cause I don't have to. Any person with normal intelligence understand that STD:s do spread among prostitutes and mongers in a brothel. It doesn't take a degree in bacteriology. Comparing this with car accidents and flight crashes is very childish.

Am I wrong when I say that the girl that infected BR probably have been with a lot other men since February 18?

Am I wrong when I say that the avarage monger probably have sex with 3-4 girls when visiting the club?

Once again, I don't need to calculate.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1128845]Better stay home Norjan. Leave the higher mathematics to those with the numbers for head. What with the gypsies and the clap Berlin is a cesspool. Some things even spray on bandaids can not help.

An STD outbreak (real or imagined) at the local watering hole is after all what separates the mongers from the weekend warriors. As Big30 note below, life, and especially FKK life, involves this risk. These "epidemic" (please note the quotes) fears are basically groundless. At least from what I have read on the boards recently. Had I the funds to back it up I would be there tonight to prove it to you.

AM[/QUOTE]Well lets wait and see. If BR is diagnosed with gonorrhoea, chlamydia or whatever and the carrier turns out to be, lets say, the spanish one (not that we will ever find out but just let us assume). Would you put your dick in her mouth? If so, I'd be happy to sponsor you with, lets say 20 Euros. Maybe BR will fill in the rest?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1128845]Better stay home Norjan. Leave the higher mathematics to those with the numbers for head. What with the gypsies and the clap Berlin is a cesspool. Some things even spray on bandaids can not help.

An STD outbreak (real or imagined) at the local watering hole is after all what separates the mongers from the weekend warriors. As Big30 note below, life, and especially FKK life, involves this risk. These "epidemic" (please note the quotes) fears are basically groundless. At least from what I have read on the boards recently. Had I the funds to back it up I would be there tonight to prove it to you.

AM[/QUOTE]Aw gee. And I was so looking forward to an Artemis visit during my stay in B-Town this weekend. Now I'm all frightened.

Not sure which is more troubling: The reported STD "epidemics" at Artemis and World or our panicked reaction to them. It still seems to me that the guys with the problems should go drink a drugstore, then call up Artemis and World and let them know what the situation is. They're running a business and the last thing that they want is one of the girls running around spreading bugs on the male guests' johnsons, and scaring away customers.

And while I appreciate the warnings, they really do none of us any good unless we decide that the risk is too great and that it's time to retire this hobby once and for all.

One little STD ain't the end of the world. Best way to handle it is to get the meds and let the club know so they can deal with it.

Cheers,

Dedalus, who will still make an Artemis run on Saturday

Greetings.

I'll be spending some time at Artemis this upcoming Saturday, STD "epidemic" or not (I'm not into BBBJ's anyway). Let me know if you'll be heading that way too and want to meet up for a coffee or beer or whatever in the bar. I will probably arrive in the early afternoon and stay until late.

Really hope my favorite girl is there!

Agent Norjan.

Your mission, if you choose to accept, I to find the carrier Spanish chick and secure her three holes with spray on bandaid. Then we can all get some sleep. Or whatever.

BSK.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1128882]Well lets wait and see. If BR is diagnosed with gonorrhoea, chlamydia or whatever and the carrier turns out to be, lets say, the spanish one (not that we will ever find out but just let us assume). Would you put your dick in her mouth? If so, I'd be happy to sponsor you with, lets say 20 Euros. Maybe BR will fill in the rest?

Norjan[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll;1128920]I'll be spending some time at Artemis this upcoming Saturday, STD "epidemic" or not.[/QUOTE]That's the spirit! Be brave and take one for the team.

Seriously, from speaking to various girls it seems Artemis are pretty hot on this and test the staff regularly.

I get the feeling this scare maybe getting out of hand.

If I was due a trip to Berlin any time soon, it wouldn't stop me from visiting Artemis.

I think the problem is that 9 guys out of ten that do get an STD at the FKK clubs do NOT report it to the club. Why? Because they are ashamed.

Do german doctors report to the clubs?

Do foreign doctors report to german authorities? I don't think so.

To you guys that are so "brave and unafraid" how many times have you been infected?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1129060]Agent Norjan.

Your mission, if you choose to accept, I to find the carrier Spanish chick and secure her three holes with spray on bandaid. Then we can all get some sleep. Or whatever.

BSK. [/QUOTE]Accepted. I'd be all over her with more than one bottle.

If all guys were like me, taking precautions, no one would get ill.

Norjan

Big30.

You have'nt answered my questions?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129255]I think the problem is that 9 guys out of ten that do get an STD at the FKK clubs do NOT report it to the club. Why? Because they are ashamed.

Do german doctors report to the clubs?

Do foreign doctors report to german authorities? I don't think so.

To you guys that are so "brave and unafraid" how many times have you been infected?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan,

Regarding your point about guys that get STDs that do not tell the girl or do not tell the club I agree with you. During my times in this hobby and funnily more often heard in the FKKs are other fuckers that do get STDs but just go get it fixed then go back to the hobby like a duck to water.

Some do report it to the club but the occassional feedback is that they want to return to that club again and to create a fuss may be a black mark against them by the club and by the girls who hear of it. You become tainted by being associated with having a disease. So these guys consider this and do not make a fuss with the club. It is good to hear these stories from other fuckers. Locals and non locals. I have heard it from both sides.

I totally admire the men that do write on this forum and say that this has happened since their good conscience says that they need to warn their fellows. It is interesting that this STD spate of stories comes out now since I did hear some more stories from locals when I was last in the clubs. These guys as far as I know do not post on any forums. They are just locals. I ended up doing something a bit different which was not in the clubs with a safer bet.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1129060]Agent Norjan.

Your mission, if you choose to accept, I to find the carrier Spanish chick and secure her three holes with spray on bandaid. Then we can all get some sleep. Or whatever.

BSK. [/QUOTE]You forgot to add at the end:

"Your dick will self-destruct in 36hrs."

O

Hey Norjan,

I'm sure that your a good guy and that your intentions are noble, but I honestly have no idea what your point is.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129255]I think the problem is that 9 guys out of ten that do get an STD at the FKK clubs do NOT report it to the club. Why? Because they are ashamed.[/QUOTE]

You assume a great deal here. While I'll agree that an STD can be an embarrassing thing to deal with, I really don't see why one would be ashamed to inform a club about it. Call up the folks at Artemis, ask to speak with the manager, tell them when you were there, who you were with and what you caught. Fertig! You could also mention that you are a member of a known MB where info about FKKs is exchanged and that you were thinking about informing your fellow posters about the situation. Not that you actually do it, but it would certainly get their attention.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129255]Do german doctors report to the clubs?[/QUOTE]
Are you asking if there is a German Doc on staff at these places or if infected German Docs report their STDs to the clubs? ;-)

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129255]Do foreign doctors report to german authorities? I don't think so.
[/QUOTE]

Again, no idea what you mean here. I know a few foreign Docs who get their jollies at german FKKs now and then. Not sure that they register their visits with anyone ahead of time, much less the German authorities. You're probably right there. ;-)

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129255]To you guys that are so "brave and unafraid" how many times have you been infected?

[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm niot at all sure what bearing this has on the discussion, but I'll bite. Thankfully and knock on wood, I've been fortunate enough to avoid picking up anything more serious than a cold during all my years of debauchery. I'll also come clean and admit to having played this game somewhat dangerously a few times. Not advocating it, and in fact I strongly advise against it.

I'm not one of those "brave" guys you mention, and I'm not totally "unafraid" but I did make a decision to engage in this hobby and while I try to play it pretty safe (and do indeed long for the days when "Gesundheits Kontrolle" were "pflicht") , I'm not all that worried truth be known.

I'm also not prepared to get on this or any other MB and paint a picture bleaker than it actually is.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll; 1128920]Greetings.

I'll be spending some time at Artemis this upcoming Saturday, STD "epidemic" or not (I'm not into BBBJ's anyway). Let me know if you'll be heading that way too and want to meet up for a coffee or beer or whatever in the bar. I will probably arrive in the early afternoon and stay until late.

Really hope my favorite girl is there! [/QUOTE]Hey Dr. J,

Probably a late afternoon / early evening visit for me. Schedule is still a bit up in the air at the moment. Drop me a PM.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129255]To you guys that are so "brave and unafraid" how many times have you been infected?[/QUOTE]0 out of ca. 500-1000 sessions the last 10 years.

Out of the handful of guys I know closely in this hobby, there is one instance of STD and that is from around 3-5000 sessions (best guestimate). For me that is acceptable risk. In 10 years of FKK'ing never heard anyone catch anything that can't be cured with a simple doctors visit.

[QUOTE=Henio; 1129287]0 out of ca. 500-1000 sessions the last 10 years.

Out of the handful of guys I know closely in this hobby, there is one instance of STD and that is from around 3-5000 sessions (best guestimate). For me that is acceptable risk. In 10 years of FKK'ing never heard anyone catch anything that can't be cured with a simple doctors visit. [/QUOTE]Hey Man,

A few of us DID have our minds infected by that girl Alina's tits some years back on a Spain trip. Those were tasty looking enough that they made our normally sensible noggins stupid enough to book her despite the ho-hum service we all got. Beffen caught it bad and was loopy for the whole week!

Still dealing with that illness.)

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129258]Big30.

You have'nt answered my questions?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Hi Norjan,

No. I am still waiting for your answer about how you did your math calculations, the FMEA analysis. But also why you think that based only upon 2 non-confirmed reports, only on this board we should conclude there is an epidemy in Artemis. There is no formal prove for that.

Furthermore you act more on assumptions and not on fact based reporting. If in your opinion the risk of entering a FKK and performing activities is not acceptable then as said before better you stay home. No problem and I respect that.

B30

Comon, just use a condom when you getting the BJ! Whats the big deal here? If I go with a girl that turns me on I can even cum with a covered BJ.

Sometimes I use a condom sometimes I'm not. The times a ask for a covered BJ the girls just like me even more, for being responsible both for here AND myself!

Geez..

For my, its about the fucking, not BBBJ so maybe thats why a CBJ its not a big deal at all.

Sent you a private message re all this bruhaha.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1129311]For my, its about the fucking, not BBBJ so maybe thats why a CBJ its not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE]I have no idea how many hundreds of BBBJ I've had in the last 10 years, in clubs, Laufhäuser, apartments. And. Never did catch anything.

HB

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1129311]For my, its about the fucking, not BBBJ so maybe thats why a CBJ its not a big deal at all.[/QUOTE]Personally I think we should put this topic to bed. Lots of speculation, not much fact. This is a bad mix in my opinion.

The Kid speaks the most sense I think. If the possibility of a STD really bothers you go for a CBJ or stay home.

AM

Things have gone up some from the last time I was at Artemis. It's now 80 euros to get in versus 70. A half hour session is up from 50 to 60 euros, and it goes up 60 euros per half hour increment from there. Alcohol, including beer, is still a ridiculous 10 euros per drink. Good thing it's still only 50 euros extra to sperm in a hot girl's mouth and 100 euros extra to take her tight arsehole. I was surprised (and overjoyed!) that hot and petite Marketa takes it in her tight little pink Czech butt hole. Just goes to show it's not the size of the girl that counts. Lynn (Julia) has a big ass but she won't let me cornhole her. Kinda like it's not the size of dog in the fight but the size of the fight in the dog!

[QUOTE=Basketcase; 1129265]Norjan,

Regarding your point about guys that get STDs that do not tell the girl or do not tell the club I agree with you. During my times in this hobby and funnily more often heard in the FKKs are other fuckers that do get STDs but just go get it fixed then go back to the hobby like a duck to water.

Some do report it to the club but the occassional feedback is that they want to return to that club again and to create a fuss may be a black mark against them by the club and by the girls who hear of it. You become tainted by being associated with having a disease. So these guys consider this and do not make a fuss with the club. It is good to hear these stories from other fuckers. Locals and non locals. I have heard it from both sides.

I totally admire the men that do write on this forum and say that this has happened since their good conscience says that they need to warn their fellows. It is interesting that this STD spate of stories comes out now since I did hear some more stories from locals when I was last in the clubs. These guys as far as I know do not post on any forums. They are just locals. I ended up doing something a bit different which was not in the clubs with a safer bet. [/QUOTE]Thanks for being a sane person, something the majority here shows a lack of.

You were at a club but chose not to monger because of what you heard about STD:s?

Norjan

today i had the tests to isolate the problem (bacteria) : 3 times they inserted a sort of needle into the opening of my penis for about 15 seconds each time (where you [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord111][CodeWord111][/url] and ejaculate). each insertion hurt more than the previous one and at the last one a tear came out of my left eye from the pain. after the test i bought the antibiotics that they gave me last time.

the risk of stds is a fact, but i don't know what is the % of taking it through uncovered oral sex (passive and active). but if you get it there is pain involved and risks if not cured properly.

this is the second time i took one out of about 100 encounters (so for me is 2% of sex with prostitutes). probably unlucky but i don't know statistics.

one was in 2007 (very painful gonorrhoea) and one now (not painful but the tests were) , both at artemis (where i had most of them anyway).

it all comes down to the fact if you think it is worth the risk or not. i'm sure i will be mongering again sooner or later.

the problem shouldn't be made too big but also not too little. the pain is the pain if you get std, plus wasted time plus money on visits and meds. if you are married or something you will have also some explanations to handle. on the other hand we can fuck young beautiful girls for 60 eur.

[QUOTE=Big30; 1129290]Hi Norjan,

No. I am still waiting for your answer about how you did your math calculations, the FMEA analysis. But also why you think that based only upon 2 non-confirmed reports, only on this board we should conclude there is an epidemy in Artemis. There is no formal prove for that.

B30[/QUOTE]You obviously haven't even read my answer.

I've never said there is an epidemy.

I haven't't done calculations nor any FMEA analysis.

Norjan

I was thinking that maybe some guys are immune to STD:s?

That would explain why some can do hundereds of BBBJ:s with prostitutes and not catch anything.

And maybe some are more susceptible?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129635]Thanks for being a sane person, something the majority here shows a lack of.

You were at a club but chose not to monger because of what you heard about STD:s?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan,

When I was last in the clubs in February I did discuss with a fucker that he got a STD in the club that he picked up from BBBJ with a girl. He say he only do covered sex and do not lick the muschi so it must be BBBJ. The girl is not one that I would book but it did make me think a bit. In the end I decided to do something different outside the club. I did monger though.

[QUOTE=The Cane; 1128539]Is that the pretty, slim, petite blonde who was hanging out with a dark-haired girl who said she was also from the Czech Republic? I did both of them and both were good fucks! The blonde was really busy, and I was happy to have my turn with her. She approached me in the kino and we ended up going to one of the rooms located down there.

And you know what I did right? That's right my friends! I cornholed her deep up in that Czech butthole of hers and was saying out loud so all in the kino could hear how I was fucking her in her asshole. Was surprised that such a petite little girl like that was taking it so well up the yin yang.

That asshole was TIGHT and had to work my way up in there. Almost thought I wasn't going to make it. If that was Marketa (that's the name I remember anyway) , then she was a damn good butt fuck! Her friend didn't do anal but spit all over my dick (I LOVE that) then took one hell of a hard and rough slam fuck (received many knowing smiles from them both later throughout the evening). [/QUOTE]Hi.

I also had the pleasure of a session with this very pretty blonde last week. She sidled up to me in the bar and we got talking. She is intelligent and a good conversationalist. Mostly we spoke about the relative merits of the various FKK clubs. She appears to have worked at most of them at one time or another. She certainly had some interesting stuff to say about FKK Globe in particular.

Marketa (prob. Wrong spelling) is really pretty. Slim and blonde with perfect tits and a great butt. I guess she's in her late 20's? Service was good. Typical top-quality pro Artemis session without any of the fireworks that occasionally happen when you really click with a girl. Most of the personal stuff she told me leads me to suppose that Marketa is a girl who prefers to retain control over her life in every way possible, so full-on GFE is perhaps not on the menu with this girl, although I am happy to be corrected by anyone who has managed to extract a more personal and intimate performance from her than I did.

Were it not for the odd stellar GFE sessions that I've had in the past with some of the ladies, I would have probably described my time with Marketa as about as good as it can get. Georgeous girl, lovely body, nice personality, great BBBJ and energetic sex. Who could ask for more? Well, I've had even better times at Artemis with the half-a-dozen or so girls that I really get it on with, so Marketa won't be a repeat for me I expect, but I would highly recommend her anyway as a stereotypical top-rate professional fuck in the best Artemmis traditions.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129640]I was thinking that maybe some guys are immune to STD:s?

That would explain why some can do hundereds of BBBJ:s with prostitutes and not catch anything.

And maybe some are more susceptible?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Good general health (as in eating right and exercise) boost you immune system generally, but I really doubt there is any type of STD immunity since any such genetic or other type of immunity is usually pretty well published and often followed by a discovery of vaccine. Then again maybe there is and it is just yet to be properly researched.

[QUOTE=Henio;1129694]Good general health (as in eating right and exercise) boost you immune system generally, but I really doubt there is any type of STD immunity since any such genetic or other type of immunity is usually pretty well published and often followed by a discovery of vaccine. Then again maybe there is and it is just yet to be properly researched.[/QUOTE]A significant percentage of prostitutes are immune from some STDs. This is probably due to being exposed to minute quantites of infectious agents for a long time. Being constantly challenged, can boost your immune system if you are healthy.

Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body.

Hey guys. Unless there is some specific new factual info I.

Would appreciate if we could move on. Maybe a nice trip report.

Some of us have to live

Vicariously until we get back there (35 days. 7 hours. But

Who is counting?)

[QUOTE=Buck Rogers;1129638]Today I had the tests to isolate the problem (bacteria)[/QUOTE]Buck. Sent you a PM about this. But as you're posting here, I'll just ask again.now that Nurse Crotchett seems to have finished reaming your weener- (yikes that did not sound like fun).

What exactly is the diagnosis-you mention "bacteria" but that's a wee bit vague. Maybe you don't know yet but when you do. Chlamydia?

Are you really sure it was at Artemis vs. Say some other prior encounter. Given incubation periods which in the case of Chlamydia can be up to 3 weeks? Did your doctor say anything about this?

You can PM back. It is indeed helpful and noble of you to talk about it and share the facts, vs. All sorts of theories and speculation here. Thanks for writing.

[QUOTE=Customx; 1129749]Hey guys. Unless there is some specific new factual info I.

Would appreciate if we could move on. Maybe a nice trip report.

Some of us have to live

Vicariously until we get back there (35 days. 7 hours. But

Who is counting?)[/QUOTE]OK. Perhaps I can help you with your vicarious living.

Yesterday, I found my way to Artemis. I have never been to an FKK, in fact, I had never heard of them until about two or three months ago.

I arrived at the club at 17:00. I have read a lot about them, and I have seen the posts from many members of this site, but I have to tell you that nothing prepared me for what I saw. First of all, the building looks like a hotel. It's absolutely huge. I went in, paid my entrance fee and was surprised and (happily) shocked to see naked women in the locker area. They were everything that any man could want. I showered and went to the bar, ordering a drink. The eye candy factor alone is worth the entrance fee. I would happily have paid 80 Euro to sit at the bar for a few hours, simply watching the naked women, not a single one of which was below a 7.

10 years of mongering has taught me that I connect well and have much better sessions with the more experienced ladies. Scanning the room, I saw a girl of about 30, sitting on a couch behind the bar. (One point to make to newbies here. Virtually ANY eye contact with one of the women will bring her to you. If you want to avoid fending off the advances of ladies you don't fancy, look away quickly once eye contact is made.) Anywho, I made eye contact with Joy, the lady on the couch. She came to me at the bar, and we chatted for a bit. She has a great smile-another good omen as far as I'm concerned. The "Paris Hilton face" on some of the hotter younger women is a sign of someone who may well be distant during your session. Joy was not in any way high-pressure, and I told her that I had only just arrived and was going to sit and have a drink. She smiled and returned to her couch. After some time, I decided to join her. We chatted for a bit, and she snuggled up to me, giving me some kisses. Well, my plan to enjoy the eye candy went straight into the toilet at that point, and I chose a one hour session with Joy, who is from Lithuania. We went to the room, and proceeded to have an extremely enjoyable time. After ten years, I can usually sense if there is going to be a vibe within the first five minutes. I sensed that with Joy in the first 15 seconds. What progessed from there was amazing. She gave me a fantastic OWO BJ. I went down on her for probably half of my session. When she reaches orgasm, it's amazing. You can sense it coming, and then there is one loud yell. We had three postions, and I finished doggy style. There were only two things that were off limits. No fingers in the holy of holies, and no anal. The former was the only downside for me, but the latter doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. After I finished, I was given a very nice massage, and she asked me if I wanted to go again. When I was 25 or 30, I would have taken her up on this, but at 44, I decided against it as I knew I would want to sample the other goodies. There is a picture of Joy on the Artemis website. Body is amazing. Small breasts, small build, but extremely fit with very good muscle tone. As I mentioned, we gelled quite well, and had a very nice conversation in addition to the session.

Looks-8,

Performance-10

After this session, I had another couple of drinks, then went to the restaurant and had a very nice dinner. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food there. Back to the bar and fended off the approaches of a couple of women. Most of the ladies are not high pressure, but a couple of them are a bit more than others. However, nothing is done in too much of a pushy way. I scheduled a hamam with Farid. I have never had a hamam, or heard of one for that matter, and I think I might have lost two kilos in loose skin. I relaxed in the bar area downstairs and Joy came looking for me to say goodbye, as she was leaving. She came over, sat down and we chatted for a bit more. She kept saying,"I like you", which was a nice touch. In my mongering career, there are perhaps 8-10 ladies that I wish I would have met in circumstances other than a client / provider role. I am officially adding Joy to that list. We really clicked, and she's one of the type of people that I could fall in love with, which I don't normally do.

Went into the kindo for a bit and was joined by a short-haired Bulgarian girl. She sat down, and despite what I have read, I allowed her to start blowing me in the kino. I did not want to session with her, as I was still in recovery mode, but it's difficult to say no to a blowjob. (I cannot remember her name, but she's a tall dark-haired girl, who is probably in her late 20s. Not a stunner, but not unnattractive either.) We took a room next to the kino for a half-hour session. She was a bit of an actress, and I didn't really bond with her very well. She did put in a lot of effort to get and keep me hard, but again, it just wasn't happening for me. . . Although I did eventually manage to get off during sex.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 6 (only because of the lack of connection)

Back to the bar for some coffee and a cigarette. By this time, the night shift was there. If I had been blown away when I entered Artemis, I was doubly blown away at this point. In all my wildest dreams, I have never imagined a room with so many incredibly beautiful women with little or no clothing. There was one older lady (very long straight blonde hair and very large bulbous fake tits) that I quite fancied, but there were so many people there by that point, and I didn't want to approach her. Two other ladies that did approach me, but I declined looked yummy as well. One was Lennie, and another was a 22 year old from Bulgaria or Romania with mid-length auburn hair, perhaps her name was Jessie? Does anyone have experience with either of these two? Jessie was perhaps the most high-pressure of the ladies that I met during my 8 hour visit. She was very nice, but it was difficult for her to accept "no". When I said that I was still recovering, and that I wasn't ready to go with anyone else for an hour, she said that she would sit there until I was ready, a bit of an uncomfortable situation. I eventually excused myself, and when I returned to the bar area, she was gone.

I had noticed a dark-haired girl with a beautiful smile. Fortunately, she came and sat next to me at the crowded bar. I eventually selected a one-hour session with her. Her name is Vivian. . . I think. She's not skinny, but has just the right amount of curves. 26 years old, with a very well done boob job. We had a very nice session. Her blowjob skills are very, very good. She kept asking me to come in her mouth for an extra 50, which I respectfully declined-I personally don't care where my seed goes after it exits my body, so 50 is an additional amount that I would prefer to keep in my wallet. Anal was also available. We had a pretty good connection, and the sex mirrored that. I went down on her, and although it took a while, she did reach orgasm. She would not permit me to put my fingers inside of her, joking that she has things inside of her all the time, and that she preferred to have the outside stimulated orally. It was difficult to not come with her tremdous oral skills, but I held off, and we had sex with her on top, doggy, and me on top. After the session, she offered to try to get me off again, but I was completely spent. I haven't had sex three times in one day in a long, long time. She did however, give me a tremendous massage.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 9.

All in all, a phenomenal day at Artemis. I shall return.

Thanks for reporting about your infection. It takes guts to tell this things on the forum, I mean about your tests and shit like that. I sure hope you will recover quickly.

Have you notified the club in any way?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Akibono;1129733]Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body.[/QUOTE]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much. Also think that most mongers could be better at this.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129985]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much. Also think that most mongers could be better at this.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Use the paper towels that they have in each room.

[QUOTE=Doonan; 1129869]OK. Perhaps I can help you with your vicarious living.

Yesterday, I found my way to Artemis. I have never been to an FKK, in fact, I had never heard of them until about two or three months ago.

I arrived at the club at 17:00. I have read a lot about them, and I have seen the posts from many members of this site, but I have to tell you that nothing prepared me for what I saw. First of all, the building looks like a hotel. It's absolutely huge. I went in, paid my entrance fee and was surprised and (happily) shocked to see naked women in the locker area. They were everything that any man could want. I showered and went to the bar, ordering a drink. The eye candy factor alone is worth the entrance fee. I would happily have paid 80 Euro to sit at the bar for a few hours, simply watching the naked women, not a single one of which was below a 7.

10 years of mongering has taught me that I connect well and have much better sessions with the more experienced ladies. Scanning the room, I saw a girl of about 30, sitting on a couch behind the bar. (One point to make to newbies here. Virtually ANY eye contact with one of the women will bring her to you. If you want to avoid fending off the advances of ladies you don't fancy, look away quickly once eye contact is made.) Anywho, I made eye contact with Joy, the lady on the couch. She came to me at the bar, and we chatted for a bit. She has a great smile-another good omen as far as I'm concerned. The "Paris Hilton face" on some of the hotter younger women is a sign of someone who may well be distant during your session. Joy was not in any way high-pressure, and I told her that I had only just arrived and was going to sit and have a drink. She smiled and returned to her couch. After some time, I decided to join her. We chatted for a bit, and she snuggled up to me, giving me some kisses. Well, my plan to enjoy the eye candy went straight into the toilet at that point, and I chose a one hour session with Joy, who is from Lithuania. We went to the room, and proceeded to have an extremely enjoyable time. After ten years, I can usually sense if there is going to be a vibe within the first five minutes. I sensed that with Joy in the first 15 seconds. What progessed from there was amazing. She gave me a fantastic OWO BJ. I went down on her for probably half of my session. When she reaches orgasm, it's amazing. You can sense it coming, and then there is one loud yell. We had three postions, and I finished doggy style. There were only two things that were off limits. No fingers in the holy of holies, and no anal. The former was the only downside for me, but the latter doesn't really matter as far as I'm concerned. After I finished, I was given a very nice massage, and she asked me if I wanted to go again. When I was 25 or 30, I would have taken her up on this, but at 44, I decided against it as I knew I would want to sample the other goodies. There is a picture of Joy on the Artemis website. Body is amazing. Small breasts, small build, but extremely fit with very good muscle tone. As I mentioned, we gelled quite well, and had a very nice conversation in addition to the session.

Looks-8,

Performance-10

After this session, I had another couple of drinks, then went to the restaurant and had a very nice dinner. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of the food there. Back to the bar and fended off the approaches of a couple of women. Most of the ladies are not high pressure, but a couple of them are a bit more than others. However, nothing is done in too much of a pushy way. I scheduled a hamam with Farid. I have never had a hamam, or heard of one for that matter, and I think I might have lost two kilos in loose skin. I relaxed in the bar area downstairs and Joy came looking for me to say goodbye, as she was leaving. She came over, sat down and we chatted for a bit more. She kept saying,"I like you", which was a nice touch. In my mongering career, there are perhaps 8-10 ladies that I wish I would have met in circumstances other than a client / provider role. I am officially adding Joy to that list. We really clicked, and she's one of the type of people that I could fall in love with, which I don't normally do.

Went into the kindo for a bit and was joined by a short-haired Bulgarian girl. She sat down, and despite what I have read, I allowed her to start blowing me in the kino. I did not want to session with her, as I was still in recovery mode, but it's difficult to say no to a blowjob. (I cannot remember her name, but she's a tall dark-haired girl, who is probably in her late 20s. Not a stunner, but not unnattractive either.) We took a room next to the kino for a half-hour session. She was a bit of an actress, and I didn't really bond with her very well. She did put in a lot of effort to get and keep me hard, but again, it just wasn't happening for me. . . Although I did eventually manage to get off during sex.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 6 (only because of the lack of connection)

Back to the bar for some coffee and a cigarette. By this time, the night shift was there. If I had been blown away when I entered Artemis, I was doubly blown away at this point. In all my wildest dreams, I have never imagined a room with so many incredibly beautiful women with little or no clothing. There was one older lady (very long straight blonde hair and very large bulbous fake tits) that I quite fancied, but there were so many people there by that point, and I didn't want to approach her. Two other ladies that did approach me, but I declined looked yummy as well. One was Lennie, and another was a 22 year old from Bulgaria or Romania with mid-length auburn hair, perhaps her name was Jessie? Does anyone have experience with either of these two? Jessie was perhaps the most high-pressure of the ladies that I met during my 8 hour visit. She was very nice, but it was difficult for her to accept "no". When I said that I was still recovering, and that I wasn't ready to go with anyone else for an hour, she said that she would sit there until I was ready, a bit of an uncomfortable situation. I eventually excused myself, and when I returned to the bar area, she was gone.

I had noticed a dark-haired girl with a beautiful smile. Fortunately, she came and sat next to me at the crowded bar. I eventually selected a one-hour session with her. Her name is Vivian. . . I think. She's not skinny, but has just the right amount of curves. 26 years old, with a very well done boob job. We had a very nice session. Her blowjob skills are very, very good. She kept asking me to come in her mouth for an extra 50, which I respectfully declined-I personally don't care where my seed goes after it exits my body, so 50 is an additional amount that I would prefer to keep in my wallet. Anal was also available. We had a pretty good connection, and the sex mirrored that. I went down on her, and although it took a while, she did reach orgasm. She would not permit me to put my fingers inside of her, joking that she has things inside of her all the time, and that she preferred to have the outside stimulated orally. It was difficult to not come with her tremdous oral skills, but I held off, and we had sex with her on top, doggy, and me on top. After the session, she offered to try to get me off again, but I was completely spent. I haven't had sex three times in one day in a long, long time. She did however, give me a tremendous massage.

Looks: 7.

Performance: 9.

All in all, a phenomenal day at Artemis. I shall return. [/QUOTE]Nice report. Thanks.

I recognised your sense of wonder at all those fabulous bodies around you. Its a great thrill the first time you walk into an FKK club, but one that fades after a few visits unfortunately. It's a bit like certain hard drugs. You can, for example, never replicate the first high you get when you freebase cocaine for the first time, but many people ruin their lives trying to get there just once more. Many of us have spent fortunes 'chasing' that first 'hit' you get when you shuffle into Artemis on your first visit, but it's never quite the same again. I'm pleased you got the full benefit from losing your own 'Artemis virginity'.

I reckon you also struck gold with your first choice of girl. Joy is a real firecracker if she likes you. I've been with her ten times or so and every session has been a stormer for both of us. She gets really horny, and as you observed, she's a 'screamer' when she comes.

Shame U-turned down Jessie. Another girl I know well. She's pushy and annoying in the lounge sometimes, but upstairs she does the business and is quite a sweet girl under the tough business-like exterior. Not as intimate as Joy, but even more skilled in the bedroom.

Pleased you enjoyed your visit. Thanks for reporting.

Best,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Norjan;1129985]If you or anyone else could give good advice about how to do this, I mean remove the condom, in a really safe way I would appreciate it very much.[/QUOTE]Norjan, I'm looking forward to read your first report. BTW, will you walk around in Artemis with printed ISG-posts under your arm and have an examination corner?

[QUOTE=Bluat;1129998]Use the paper towels that they have in each room.[/QUOTE]You mean that one should wrap paper around the condom before taking it off?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1130047]Norjan, I'm looking forward to read your first report. BTW, will you walk around in Artemis with printed ISG-posts under your arm and have an examination corner?[/QUOTE]You mean my first report after this latest STD issue came up?

I have done a couple of reports of my earlier visits, read them and you will find out how I act.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Akibono; 1129733]A significant percentage of prostitutes are immune from some STDs. This is probably due to being exposed to minute quantites of infectious agents for a long time. Being constantly challenged, can boost your immune system if you are healthy.

Although condoms can reduce your risk, they can not entirely eliminate it. For example, if you are not extremely careful when removing a condom, you will contaminate your hands which then can spead the germs to other parts of the body. [/QUOTE]I'm not sure of the source for some of this stuff. One of the problems is (which can be checked with reliable sources) that some people get the bug (s) but don't get symptoms, thereby becoming reservoirs of infection for other people. Also, some girls don't seem to realise that throats can be infected with STDs as well and may not get this part of their body screened at checkup time.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1129983]Thanks for reporting about your infection. It takes guts to tell this things on the forum, I mean about your tests and shit like that. I sure hope you will recover quickly.

Have you notified the club in any way?

Norjan[/QUOTE]I didn't notify last time and I'm not notifying this time. What good would it do? I still don't know what exactly I have and I don't know which girl is.

The tests I did were done to research various different bacterias (for the different STDs). I just wish they find something so I can move on. In the meanwhile they gave me the same antibiotics they gave me 4 years ago.

In any case don't be so concerned with this. If you want to go to Artemis and fuck prostitutes, then go, I'm convinced now that at any given time the % of one girl infected is quite high either at Artemis or any other big FKK.

If instead you don't feel like taking the chance, then the only choice is to give up mongering, find a "good" girl, have only sex with her so the STD risk is hopefully 0.

When I'm cured I will be back to mongering, not probably at Artemis though (bad luck place for me I guess) but I visit some cities in Europe for work during the year and I will concentrate there, even though there will be not the FKK feeling of naked girls all around you.

Buck

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1130155]You mean my first report after this latest STD issue came up?

I have done a couple of reports of my earlier visits, read them and you will find out how I act. [/QUOTE]I've read them. You are superstrange! How could you ask the asian guy if he has the flu? WTF? If he see some red spots on your chest, he should ask you if you recently got infected with HIV? Did you even present yourself by name before you asked him? Or you just asked him out of the blue??

Then we all could read about how you brought your big dick and the 1500 euros to the club. Very funny. And then, you pay a girl 150 (!!!) euros for 10 (or was it 20?) minutes of action in the room? I guess the regulars don't like that. Now we all know were the upsellig, sharkattitude, hustle and begging for tip comes from.

Last time I were at Artemis I got a titjob and finnished all over my girls massive boobs, without paying extra. She just told me that if I hit her face that is 50 extra so I hold my hand over my friend so i would not do that.

I'm not saying that no one should giv a tip if he gets a super treatment, but your story were just ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Kid Icarus; 1130229]I've read them. You are superstrange! How could you ask the asian guy if he has the flu? WTF? If he see some red spots on your chest, he should ask you if you recently got infected with HIV? Did you even present yourself by name before you asked him? Or you just asked him out of the blue?

Then we all could read about how you brought your big dick and the 1500 euros to the club. Very funny. And then, you pay a girl 150 (!) euros for 10 (or was it 20?) minutes of action in the room? I guess the regulars don't like that. Now we all know were the upsellig, sharkattitude, hustle and begging for tip comes from.

Last time I were at Artemis I got a titjob and finnished all over my girls massive boobs, without paying extra. She just told me that if I hit her face that is 50 extra so I hold my hand over my friend so I would not do that.

I'm not saying that no one should giv a tip if he gets a super treatment, but your story were just ridiculous. [/QUOTE]Why shouldn't I ask him, whats the big deal? I asked him because he acted strange and because he were asian. I've been to Beijing once a couple of years ago and all asians were running around with masks because the were afraid of the bird flu.

I simply asked him "This is your first time at Artemis, huh? And he said "yes". You don't have the bird flu do you? And he just shook his head. The guy pretended he could'nt speak English so the conversation was over before it started. OK, maybe I should have presented my self but I just wanted to know if he was carrying the virus or not. End of the asian guy story.

Yes I brougth a lot of money to the club, but you know what, I only have been to the club twice in one year, so I guess most members here spend a lot more than I do. There is also another reason that I bring a lot of money. I split it to different places in my clothes so if I get robbed, hopefully the robbers will be satisfied with what's in my pocket and then I can continue to Artemis anyway. Thats the main reason.

And about tipping. Jasmine is the only girl I have ever actually tipped and that was just because she was so beautiful and had amazing tits and that I only had 50-Euro bills. So you think that is why girls are sharky, upselling and tip beggars, because of my one time tipping with one girl?

And by the way, it was about 15 minutes but I don't count. Maybe you do. Also I don't ejaculate on my own hand when there is a beautiful girl in bed in front of me. I understand that you do that. Maybe you were hoping for a discount?

Norjan

Gentlemen-need I remind you that the purpose of this thread is to report and comment on the comings (cummings?) and goings of the ladies of Artemis, your experiences and practical information regarding one's visits. Off course we get off topic from time to time. Also I expect a certain amount of off topic banter and fun. But lately it seem the thread has veered way off course. All we seem to do is spend the time discussing an isolated incident of a member who may or may not have contracted a minor STD at the club.

So who am I to say that the thread has become irrelevant to the point of becoming boring. But this is my feeling. If you really feel the need to discuss endlessly the possibility of contracting an STD, might I suggest opening a new thread on STD and FKK visits. Then we could leave the Artemis thread to its' intended purpose.

And Norjan-as you know I enjoy you being here. I even made you MIA on my blog not long ago. Sometimes though I am not sure. Sometimes I suspect you of trolling the forum. Can anyone really be so out of touch with the reality of human intercourse that they would not know that arbitrarily asking an Asian person if they have Bird flu is. Well. Sort of insulting and verging on racist?

I rest my case.

AM

Yes indeed. For those who would like to have further discussion on Health aspects in FKK's just start a new topic only related to Health issues. No problem with such a discussion and / or topic but that does not belong in a Club Topic.

Let us stop this discussion in the Artemis general topic.

B30

And seconded! All in favor. . . AY!

I'm sorry I ever mentioned the asian guest incident, I should have kept it to myself. People seem to get upset about it and I honestly don't think it is a big deal. He did'nt seem to think so either. The guy went upstairs with stunners a couple of times and probably had the time of his life, I even think he went with Jasmine.

Let's hope he did and that being asked about the bird flu by a european guest in a german brothel won't be a trauma in his future life. If he had asked me about the swine flu, it hadn't bothered me at all. I won't mention anything about my communication with other guests in my future reports that can be taken for trolling, racism etc. You're probably right, it don't belong in the forum. Again I'm sorry I even mentioned it. End of discussion.

Norjan

I agree. The STD discussion really should be terminated.

Hey Guys,

Just a quick update of the real time situation here at Artemis.

Arrived a little after 7.

Most girls and more than a few male guests are in Fasching costumes.

Not a crazy party type atmosphere. Actually pretty manageable.

Ran straight into Sarah who swears she is the only real Spanish girl here. Blond. 1.6 M. Mid to late twenties. Nice natural C cups!

Good choice for me. Really puts effort into her gig and no restrictions. Definite keeper for me.

Met Dr Jekyll. Good guy!

Avoiding a Romy named Jessy who who is cute but probably a sub standard session (just a guess). However she is determined that I am taking her to the room.

Antonia (ex Gabby at FKKW) and Karla (ex Palace and FKKW are here. Also Susan (ex GT).

Second session was with Carla, a different one. Tall sexy, dyed red hair, wearing a cowboy hat. Romy. Best session I have had in a while! No kissing but she bring so much more to the table. Might do that again later.

A tall German named Sammie is interesting. Could close out the evening with her.

Best line up I have seen at Artemis.

Cheers,

Dedalus, still ducking Jessy

Hey Gents,

Finished the night with Carla again. This time around kissing was on the menu. A real "wilde Katze" this on. Could be that I missed out on a good thing by passing on Sammie. She's a tall, sexy one. But Carla absolutely rocks!

She's friends with Jessie and I made Jessie's shit-list for opting to go with her friend rather than with her. Das ist doch so der Lauf der Welt.

I wish that I could hit this club and this city more often. Even though the club is pricey by Frankfurt and NRW standards, I usually have a great time here.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus; 1130460]Hey Gents,

Finished the night with Carla again. This time around kissing was on the menu. A real "wilde Katze" this on. Could be that I missed out on a good thing by passing on Sammie. She's a tall, sexy one. But Carla absolutely rocks!

She's friends with Jessie and I made Jessie's shit-list for opting to go with her friend rather than with her. Das ist doch so der Lauf der Welt.

I wish that I could hit this club and this city more often. Even though the club is pricey by Frankfurt and NRW standards, I usually have a great time here.

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]Jessy is a really good performer. You should give her a try. Her persistence in the lounge is a real turn-off I know, but she certainly does deliver in the room. Beneath it all she is also a sweet and intelligent girl as well. I have been with her a number of times, and once I enjoyed a smoking duette with her and Carla.

I understand why you would be put off by her lounge-manner, but you can trust me that she is the real deal in the bedroom. If you haven't yet quit town, you should give her a spin.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1130021]Nice report. Thanks.

I recognised your sense of wonder at all those fabulous bodies around you. Its a great thrill the first time you walk into an FKK club, but one that fades after a few visits unfortunately. It's a bit like certain hard drugs. You can, for example, never replicate the first high you get when you freebase cocaine for the first time, but many people ruin their lives trying to get there just once more. Many of us have spent fortunes 'chasing' that first 'hit' you get when you shuffle into Artemis on your first visit, but it's never quite the same again. I'm pleased you got the full benefit from losing your own 'Artemis virginity'.

I reckon you also struck gold with your first choice of girl. Joy is a real firecracker if she likes you. I've been with her ten times or so and every session has been a stormer for both of us. She gets really horny, and as you observed, she's a 'screamer' when she comes.

Shame U-turned down Jessie. Another girl I know well. She's pushy and annoying in the lounge sometimes, but upstairs she does the business and is quite a sweet girl under the tough business-like exterior. Not as intimate as Joy, but even more skilled in the bedroom.

Pleased you enjoyed your visit. Thanks for reporting.

Best,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Charlie, I reckon I should have taken Jessie's offer to sit with me at the bar, earning nothing while she was there, for one hour, as a compliment as opposed to a show of desperation. . . Would you agree with that?

As someone who has sampled many accoutrements during their time on this planet-most of them 20 years ago-I get your freebase analagy. . . Unfortunately. But as someone who is indeed an addict, I think I might just venture back to Artemis one more teeny tiny time before vacating Berlin.

You don't have any knowledge or experience with the one that I mentioned, the one with very, very long straight blonde hair and a very good silly-cone job? She could be from late 20s to 40.

I also ventured over to King George the other night and met the one and only Petronella-another substance that I could become addicted to.

I only sessioned with her once, a long time ago, and I kind of mix her up (unfortunately only in my memory) with Helena. That's because at the time I sessioned with her and immediately after with Helena.

Anyway. German, very young, I'd say dark hair. A LOT of Piercing and Tatoos. I remeber I had a great time with her but never saw her again at Artemis.

I was curious to know if she was still around or what.

@Charlie123: Jessy? Don't know her. Or maybe it's part of my "Happy of allways meeting new friends" situation. Ahahaha.

Looking forward to meet you!

Ciaoo

Anyone seen Liz?

[QUOTE=Kimino;1130917]I was curious to know if she was still around or what.[/QUOTE]Not personally but there has been some discussion about her recently on VB. All positive as far as I can tell.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1130931]Anyone seen Liz?

Not personally but there has been some discussion about her recently on VB. All positive as far as I can tell.

AM[/QUOTE]Arghh. What's "VB"?
maybe "VBulletin" meanimg on this forum?

Unfortunately "liz" is a three letter word and as such not searchable.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1131017]Arghh. What's "VB"?

Maybe "VBulletin" meanimg on this forum?

Unfortunately "liz" is a three letter word and as such not searchable.

Ciao[/QUOTE]VB is Verkerhsberichte, the local Berlin forum. It is a valuable resource for Artemis info if you can navigate the German. It is also very difficult to join unless you are willing to sign up with a credit card to get around the "youth protection" thingy. I have been a member for several years and joined when it was still possible to become a member without the Jugendschutztore.

And can you not search for 3 letter names by putting an * (asterisk) after the three letter name?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1131028]VB is Verkerhsberichte, the local Berlin forum. It is a valuable resource for Artemis info if you can navigate the German. It is also very difficult to join unless you are willing to sign up with a credit card to get around the "youth protection" thingy. I have been a member for several years and joined when it was still possible to become a member without the Jugendschutztore.

And can you not search for 3 letter names by putting an * (asterisk) after the three letter name?

AM[/QUOTE]thanks for the info. Just wanted to know if she is still working, hopefully I will meet here again one time or the other. There's plenty of alternatives anyway. Ahahaha.

Searchin for "liz*" finds "lizzie", probably "lizzard" but not "liz".

Ciaooo

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1130662]Jessy is a really good performer. You should give her a try. Her persistence in the lounge is a real turn-off I know, but she certainly does deliver in the room. Beneath it all she is also a sweet and intelligent girl as well. I have been with her a number of times, and once I enjoyed a smoking duette with her and Carla.

I understand why you would be put off by her lounge-manner, but you can trust me that she is the real deal in the bedroom. If you haven't yet quit town, you should give her a spin.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hey Charlie,

The hard sell from Jessie alarmed me less than the solala report of her service from another guest. Still, I may give her another chance on a future visit. She's pretty frosted at me and it might be interesting to see if I can turn that into something special in the room. Carla and Jessie tried to sell me on the duo thing as well (more so Jessie than Carla) but I was convinced that Carla needed my undivided attention. ;-)))

BTW, Antonia (ex Gabby from FKKW) sends "Hi" to Beffen, Henio and a few others (one in particular) who use to give her attention during her Pohlheim days. She still kinda cute. Has gone bubble-headed, bleached blond.

Spotted Nina also. Dropped some weight since that last time I saw her and is looking good. Half crossed my mind to engage in a reunion. Her service is apparently still tops from what I hear.

Going to be poppin' in and out of B-Town a few more times between now and August, so I plan on getting to know the Artemis ladies a bit better. I already have some names and faces on the To-Do list.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus; 1131156]Hey Charlie,

The hard sell from Jessie alarmed me less than the solala report of her service from another guest. Still, I may give her another chance on a future visit. She's pretty frosted at me and it might be interesting to see if I can turn that into something special in the room. Carla and Jessie tried to sell me on the duo thing as well (more so Jessie than Carla) but I was convinced that Carla needed my undivided attention..)

BTW, Antonia (ex Gabby from FKKW) sends "Hi" to Beffen, Henio and a few others (one in particular) who use to give her attention during her Pohlheim days. She still kinda cute. Has gone bubble-headed, bleached blond.

Spotted Nina also. Dropped some weight since that last time I saw her and is looking good. Half crossed my mind to engage in a reunion. Her service is apparently still tops from what I hear.

Going to be poppin' in and out of B-Town a few more times between now and August, so I plan on getting to know the Artemis ladies a bit better. I already have some names and faces on the To-Do list.

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]I might be tempted to see the sights of Berlin if Janine were there to comfort me in the evenings!

Do they spell LIZZ on VB? Rather than liz.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1131030]thanks for the info. Just wanted to know if she is still working, hopefully I will meet here again one time or the other. There's plenty of alternatives anyway. Ahahaha.

Searchin for "liz*" finds "lizzie", probably "lizzard" but not "liz".

Ciaooo[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1131288]Do they spell LIZZ on VB? Rather than liz.[/QUOTE]Usually spelt Lizz on VB as it is on the Artemis photo page.

AM

Well, I decided to visit Artemis once more before leaving Berlin. I wanted to wait until the weekend was past, so there would be less competition for the girls. I arrived at about 18:00, showered and made my way to the bar. I saw my beautiful dream girl-still don't know her name, but medium height, ass-length hair, and very large fake breast-but she was on her way upstairs with another customer. On my previous visit, the prior Thursday, Lennie (Lenny, Lenie, Leny) had approached me on a few ocassions, and she came up and sat down next to me. Because I had blown her off previously, I felt like "I owed her one", which is a feeling I hate to have. She's very attractive, with a wonderful body, but I felt like she might be a bit too "professional". My thoughts proved to be correct. While quite nice and not rushing in any way, the session was only so-so. She was actually a bit toothy on the blowjob, which kind of surprised me. To avoid long-term damage to Mr. Happy, I stopped the 69 and moved into doggy style, where I finished.

Looks-7-8.

Performance7, a bit too professional with the moaning, etc.

Had some dinner, a couple of drinks, spent some time in the sauna and pool, etc. I went back to the loungs a couple of hours later to look for my next ride. I had noticed Ella a couple of times and remembered reading on this forum that she is very talented in the oral department. I was standing at the stairway, when I saw her coming towards be from the ladies' locker room. I thought I should probably grab her, just in case my opportunity was missed, as she was definitely on my short list. I said Hello. She stopped, and I asked her to turn around. (I wanted to verify that it was actually her, since she only shows a behind view on the website.) The tattoo matched, and I told her that she had a very good reputation. She smiled knowingly-either that or she had not fucking idea what I had just said. We went down to the kino, but all the couches were taken, so we went into a room next to the kino. What proceeded from there was simply amazing! This girl can definitely suck a dick. . . My only regret is that mine is not much larger, as I would like to see what she can actually take in her mouth. I know she had no problem with mine and deepthroated with ease. When I pushed up against her face, force-feeding her, she didn't shy away whatsoever. I had not desire to end this session quickly, and she asked what amount of time I wanted. Instead of saying 8 hours, which was my first inclination, I managed a "one-hour please". She smiled and went back to a mind-blowing BJ. I knew that I had to stop her (first of all to save 50 Euros, and secondly to enjoy the amount of time with her). She reached up and passionately kissed me, without me moving in that direction or even asking. Kissing her was a treat in and of itself. I assumed the positon and spent about 20 minutes or so searching for a little man in her boat. During me search, she told me exactly where to search and with how much effort. I liked that a lot. If someone is just there to go through the motions, they would never tell you what they like and don't like, unless of course they are being bitten or blown up like a Macy's day float. Since I am well aware of my proclivities in that area, I am sure that neither was the case. I felt Ella's body tense and quiver as she reached orgasm. After a few seconds of recovery, she opened her eyes and looked down at me with a smile. I took this as an invitation to look for the man in the boat again, which I did, taking into account her earlier instructions. Again, Ella orgasmed. WOW! This woman was amazingly sensual. . . And talented. I asked her how much time we had left, as I wanted this hour to last for a very, very long time. She looked at her watch. We had 15 more minutes. I knew it would not take me long once I was inside of her, so I asked her to blow me again for a while. Eventually, she slipped on the condom and crawled on top. Despinte the fact that she was moving quite slowly, she was doing it with great determination. Phenomenal eye contact and her reaching down to suck on my tongue was all it took. I experienced and extremely powerful orgasm, and was actually sort of in a daze (haze) for a bit. We stayed and talked about various things for at least another 15 minutes, and I know we ran over our time substantially, but she never made a move to the door, and eventually I did. This woman is hot, sexy, has a very good vibe about her, and I would marry her and give her everything I make for the rest of my life. . . Okay, maybe not now, but for five minutes after finishing I would have.

Looks-10.

Performance-10.

I went back to the bar and sat down (actually "collapsed" is a better way to put it) on one of the couches, content to watch the eye candy for a few hours. By this time, it was about midnight. I was approached by Carla, who was very nice, very talkative, and had good english skills. I blew her off, knowing that my "job" in Artemis is to score with women with whom I would have little chance in the real world. Carla has an average body-nice tits thought-and isn't extremely hot, although she is cute. She was very decent about being blown off, as I did it early and in a nice way, but said she would be looking for me after I recovered.

Meanwhile, I saw a tall blonde, probably 30 years of age, with natural breasts. She is quite tall, and her name turned out to be Katrina, who is from Siberia. I had noticed her before, in the restaurant. Katrina tends to keep to herself and spends a fair amount of time at the wellness are bar, usually alone. At this point, I should say that I have a foot fetish. I know what I like, and that is long, slender feet, with no toenail Polish. In the restaurant, I saw that Katrina's feet fit that bill. I was determined to make her my final ride at Artemis. I went down to the kino, an area that she tends to cruise through fairly often. Turning down offers from others, I awaited Katrina. I was not disappointed. In she walked and I patted the seat next to me. I didn't know if I would be able to wake the dead at that point, having had a few drinks, two prior rides, and a full belly. I didn't have to wait long before getting my answer. This girl can suck a dick! She pays attention to the boys below in just the right ways. She has a tongue-flicking thingy that she does very, very well. I would almost say that she gives Ella a run for her money. We moved to a room nearby, where she proceeded to go down on me. As is my practice, I decided to return the favor. I was amazed that my technique-which has been honed over the years-was not working for her. She eventually stopped me and said that she wouldn't be able to get off that way. Actually, I was glad to hear her say that, as I really do appreciate honesty rather than false moans. Like Ella, she reached to kiss me without my asking or moving that way. We did it doggy, with her on top, and finally missionary, with me pushing those very long legs behind her against the mirror, where I could get a good view of her wonderful feet. Amazingly, it didn't take a lot of effort to reach the heights again. We chatted for a bit, and I'm sure went over our half hour time limit. Katrina is not a knockout, but she is very pretty. She has some moles on her back, but that didn't put me off in any way. She's the right age, comlpletely non-pushy, and I really don't like the young "perfect" girls who walk around like they own the place and are always looking in the mirror. Our vibe was good right from the start.

Looks:7-8.

Performance:8-9.

All in all, I had 2 half hour sessions (one very good, one okay) and a full hour session (F*CKING PHENOMENAL!) , two good meals, countless cups of cappucino. 8 cocktails, and 10 hours of oggling. . . A very good second visit. I made sure to take the advice of the poster who likened the first visit to an FKK as one's first hit of cocaine, and I made sure to have lower expectations. Doing this helped me completely enjoy my second visit to Artemis in the course of 5 days. I will return to Artemis within the next couple of months, but now my quandry is this: Do I session with three ladies that I know will rock my world (Joy, Ella, Katrina) or do I chart a new and unknown course with other women? That's a hard one.

I'll proofread these the next time. My apologies.

Part 1:

A year since my last visit to Artemis. Great to be back.

Late March 3.

Started talking to Nina and I found her really charming. After some small talk she asked me if I wanted to go to the kino and off we went. Excellent DFK before hitting a room upstairs. I would definitive repeat. Great GFE.

Also had a session with a tall blonde from Hamburg. Don`t remember her name. She was leaving this week.

She was okay but had a runny nose caused by too mouch smoke in the bar-area. Not very sexy.

March 4. I went just after opening and it was nice and laid-back. Stayed util the place started to get really crowded around 9. Had an amazing session with a girl visiting from Dusseldorf (Sorry, will try to remember their names better next time). She had dyed her hair red and gave me the best CBJ ever.

I then went with Jenna, who have black hair now. She was a bit of a dissapointment. Unfortunatly I found her booring and to mechanical.

To be continued.

Sparks

Threesome with Renee (blonde, pornish) and her friend wich name I can't remember. They where really into each other. DFK, eating each others pussys. A nice PSE, but a bit to expensive in my opinion. Damage: 4x60 euro incl. CIM.

Finished my trip with another girl from Hamburg. Short hair, tongue piercing. Excellent GFE. Amazing blowjob. She was off to Hamburg in a week she told me. Hope to repeat some time in the future.

Sparks

For the records, is Artemis crowded in these days with the ITB Messe going on?

Ciao

Day 1.

Time 60 min grade: 8.

Petra (alt name Petrja) Bulgaria: Sunny beach.

Petra dark hair Bulgarian beauty 170 cm tall, thin with brown moles on her back an one her side oblong nose that fitted her face. Thick black hair down to her shoulders ususual for women of that region. Born in 1978 douther off 4 years and divorced.

Truely female caratheristic with a dominant personality adjusted by lack off selv confidance and a desire to seek risk adjusted confidence booster by gaining the desire of men in a close secure environment. The women strikes you as pushy at first due to her wish to be the hunter, she spots likely men as soon as you get in the upstair bar-area. Which I find attractive since 'she already knows what he wants' type off mind set. Petra is looking for gentleman and good lovers.

I let her know that I would be a while downstair and would find her later. I later returned after a sauna and a quick nap to the upstair kino. Petra came by and asked if she could sit down and we started talking I waited until we had build up rapport and started slowly feel her see- cup size silicon breasts which were surprisingly soft.

Petra started off with her enticing weapon a BBBJ at which she excels and she knows it for a good while I'm starting to like were this is going. I needed to take charge of the session and led her downstair to one of the rooms behind the kino. The great chemistry we had developed upstairs feed into a wonderful foreplay were I grabbed her hard and started kissing her long and slapped her breasts. Petra slid down slowly to her knees having her nipples run down me stomach and cock she takes in her mouth and massages my balls at the same time.

Now it's my turn I bend her over so she is facing down on the bed while I massage the back of her thighs and ass. I kiss her pussy from behind and stick my finger in her ass. She starts protesting but it dies down when she is confartable that I wouldn't stick my cock in there. I stick in two fingers in her pussy and look for her g-spot which is located a bit in a stranger then usual position compared to where I usually find it.

She is now ready a straddle her ass arch her back and enter her as deep as I can and when I have the full penetration I stick in my thumb in the ass I'm now enjoying myself. Her pussy is wonderful deep and tight. This goes on for a while as I grab her hair and push her face down on the bed and then toward me so she can see me entering her.

I later turned her over and entered her but not before putting her feet beside her head with her head outside the bed so I could enter her with all off me while rocking back and forward. I'm reaching climax accelerated by her pussy sweezing tigher on me she is closer then I am.

To be con.

[QUOTE=Doonan;1131888]I'll proofread these the next time. My apologies.[/QUOTE]Doonan,

No need to apologise, thanks for the report.

Your session with Ella sounds like my session with Dorean at Artemis in 2007. Still the best provider experience I've ever had, and there's about 120 across the world since then.

It's a good feeling to get that perfect 10, they don't come about too often.

I took the approach of going back to a good thing rather than try something new during my successive vists, I'll be interested to see if you can resist Ella next time around!

Cheers

I've lurked on this thread for a long time, but had nothing to post as I was far away. Many nights I have pored over the reports of Angus Magee, Charlie 123, and others, and wished to step into the shoes of my heroes.

A few weeks ago I came to Berlin and have been sampling many different establishments. I've decided to settle here for good, as I think this is one of the most liberal and exciting cities in the world. Having received so much information from the ISG, I want to give something back and will be giving my impressions of particular places soon.

[QUOTE=Sparks;1132854]I then went with Jenna, who have black hair now. She was a bit of a dissapointment. Unfortunatly I found her booring and to mechanical.[/QUOTE]Jenna has blonde hair the whole time.

I think your session was with another girl. Maybe with a similar name. I don't know.

Day 1 Misha Hungarian

30 min grade 6.

No other way to describe this girl but over worked by the hands of man, silicone lips, silicone breasts and I almost certain silicone ass. But what a joy to ride from behind the whole session took place in the upstairs kino first oral followed by her riding me and finally doggy she was a joy to fuck but I must say I preferred Petra better on average.

Misha was clearly in it for the money compared to Petra so to speak, I found her to be a bore this was off course all my fault by not building up the session properly as I did with Petra. Her features were 'porn actress' and her pussy amazing to enter.

I had a lovely time on the 20th of February when I was there with an overall good balance between the sexes.

I hope that my two first posts have been at helpful to some people and entertaining to all I felt that I had to give back after so many visits on this forum.

Thank you for reading

Visited Artemis about a week ago. This was my fourth visit this winter, and I arrived around 15. 00, full of expectations.

Things didn't start out any good though, and I was immediately struck by two disappointments; I had really hoped to meet my favorite Artemis girl this night (had planned for an early one hour session if I could find her) , but my hopes were crushed by a negative answer when asking about her in the reception. Damn! Oh well I wasn't surprised of course since the chance of her working this particular evening was perhaps fifty fifty. Anyway, after entering the club I quickly realised that something was, well, wrong with the girls. Why weren't they naked? What's the deal with these outfits? Asked about it, and found out that there was some kind of "carnival theme" or something. Must have forgot to check the website. DAMN!

After getting over these initial annoyances I kindof started to enjoy myself. I won't go into details, but to summarize I had two really nice sessions out of four. Started out with Lecky from Thailand. Tiny girl with nice attitude. Much later Dedalus (a nice guy who I had arranged to meet in the downstairs bar) introduced me to Nina. Nina was the absolute star of the evening! The second best fuck I've had here, beaten only by Fatima.

The two others, one Moldavian girl and one German, I will try to forget. Stayed until they closed (sleeping the last two hours).

By the way, might end up in Köln soon. Can anyone recommend a good place there?

/Dr Jekyll

Buck. PM'the you re the latest research results. Any word back? Thanks.RB

Hey guys, I'll be in Berlin tomorrow and Wednesday (maybe also Thursday). Will definitely be visiting Artemis.

If anyone is around and want to meet at Artemis, send a PM!

As always I'd love to meet other peolple from the board.

Ciao!

Kimino

An interesting time this afternoon. Arrived and got the usual requests to take a "Zimmer" from a bunch of naked girls. The truth is a lot of them are just tall 6's with fake boobs. But there are definitely some gems too as I'll relate.

One of the first girls to approach me was a red-headed Romanian called Jessie. She was very keen but not quite attractive enough. I explained that I had just arrived and wanted to use the sauna and so on first. I said she should come to me later, probably a mistake as it turns out.

After enjoying lunch, the swimming pool and the sauna, I bumped into an 8 at the bar, another Romanian called Tatiana. A gorgeous body. After some chatting I decided she was my date and we went to a room. I admit I was a bit apprehensive because the pretty ones can sometimes turn cold in the room. Also there is a higher than average proportion of sharks among the Romanians. So once we got to the room, I made sure she would lie down and let me feel and kiss her body before I committed to any serious action. Some DATY: she was very sensitive in the pussy area but seemed complaisant. So I let her give me a BBBJ and she was skilled and nearly succeeded in getting me to cum in her mouth, but I stopped her just in time. Then we screwed in a few positions. Good, but not the most passionate sex I've had. I felt a bit lost in the sheer bounty of her body. That I almost couldn't do justice to it in the 30 minutes available. But still, not a bad way to spend an afternoon I'd say. Not a bad way at all.

After I paid her, I went back to the bar. Jessie latched on to me again. I apologetically told her that I'd basically spent my load, but greatly appreciated the attentions of her compatriot Tatiana. At this she said,"Oh you're so boring!" and flounced off. Ouch! In "real life" I'd never make such a faux pas, but somehow it never occurred to me that the girls at Artemis might get jealous of each other. Has anybody else run into this?

I only met one 9 today, a blue-eyed blonde bombshell of a Russian called Ella. A few minutes before I left the club, as I was coming naked out of the shower she approached me with a brilliant smile. We chatted for a couple of minutes. I asked if she was romantic and liked kissing. She adored it. I told her that she was my perfect woman, asked her what days she was there, and if I could go with her next time. She was indignant."There is no next time! I'm hardly ever here. Only now!" I thought that was a bit pushy but it's hard to dismiss such a beauty. Does anybody know if she is a shark or the real deal?

I have to say that after being at Atemis for 4 days in a raw and trying out a decent amount of ladies, the more pretty they are the less good time you have with them in bed. My personal favorite ws kathleen but all the time she was don't do this and don't do that, but her looks and body worth every penny.

One thing that really bothered me was the way some girls would hassle you all the time to spend your money on them. Especially the Romanian and bulgarian group. They were hasslers. The management should look into that.

Moreover paying for 30 minutes session when you usually finish the deed in 10 max I think they should give an option for a quicky for a lower price. That will help boost the extras anal, cim.

[QUOTE=Vostro000;1133820]I have to say that after being at Atemis for 4 days in a raw and trying out a decent amount of ladies, the more pretty they are the less good time you have with them in bed. My personal favorite ws kathleen but all the time she was don't do this and don't do that, but her looks and body worth every penny.[/QUOTE]Vostro, were those 4 days March 9 to March 13? During the ITB convention the girls have many more customers than usual. Consequently they get a bit jaded and some of them want to get things over quickly so they can maximise turnover.

I agree with you about the Romanian / Bulgarians. Also, the management has been a little weak since the main guy Ecki died last year. They could do more to filter out the sharks, but it must be difficult to find enough warm-hearted ladies to service the huge influx during ITB.

[QUOTE=Dr Jekyll; 1133403]By the way, might end up in Köln soon. Can anyone recommend a good place there?

/Dr Jekyll[/QUOTE]During one of my visits to Samya near Cologne there were some Canadians that were staying at the youth hostel in town near the Dom and Hbf. That is a budget accomodation and you are close to town and the sights of Cologne.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1133721]I only met one 9 today, a blue-eyed blonde bombshell of a Russian called Ella. A few minutes before I left the club, as I was coming naked out of the shower she approached me with a brilliant smile. We chatted for a couple of minutes. I asked if she was romantic and liked kissing. She adored it. I told her that she was my perfect woman, asked her what days she was there, and if I could go with her next time. She was indignant."There is no next time! I'm hardly ever here. Only now!" I thought that was a bit pushy but it's hard to dismiss such a beauty. Does anybody know if she is a shark or the real deal?[/QUOTE]Do a search here for Ella. You should come up with some reports as she has been reviewed several times before. Personally I would not give her a "9" in looks. Let's face it she has been in the game for a while and is showing her age. But service wise there are few better than her. If you yourself give her a "9" then a session with her should blow your mind, among other parts of the anatomy. Her bjs are out of this world.

[quote=angus magee;1134016]do a search here for ella. you should come up with some reports as she has been reviewed several times before. personally i would not give her a "9" in looks. let's face it she has been in the game for a while and is showing her age. but service wise there are few better than her. if you yourself give her a "9" then a session with her should blow your mind, among other parts of the anatomy. her bjs are out of this world.[/quote]"da, da, da"

had the (immense) pleasure recently. as angus mentions, a close look into her lovely eyes shows that she has been fortunate to attend many days at fkk`s. however, takes great pride in her appearance and it shows. also agree that she provided an absolute top performance- ticking all the boxes. i simply had to extend to a full hour and finished with a deep and wet cim. superb gfe (or so it seemed) , total attention to the client and his whims, daty with extreme appreciation shown, and a bbbj to go to heaven for. kept her black fm heels on throughout which did not distract in any way when wraping her legs around excess in mish.

very impressed and a real highlight. i did mention that i was impressed with ella ? a true daughter of mother russia with great english and all skills.

full marks.

[quote=excess; 1134036]"the, the, the"

had the (immense) pleasure recently. as angus mentions, a close look into her lovely eyes shows that she has been fortunate to attend many days at fkk`s. however, takes great pride in her appearance and it shows. also agree that she provided an absolute top performance- ticking all the boxes. i simply had to extend to a full hour and finished with a deep and wet cim. superb gfe (or so it seemed) , total attention to the client and his whims, daty with extreme appreciation shown, and a bbbj to go to heaven for. kept her black fm heels on throughout which did not distract in any way when wraping her legs around excess in mish.

very impressed and a real highlight. i did mention that i was impressed with ella? a true daughter of mother russia with great english and all skills.

full marks. [/quote]hey,

i don't get to artemis all that often, but i have seen ella on all of my visits. love her body. face doesn't quite hit my sweet spot, but she's a pleasant girl. a few weeks ago at the faschings party she was dressed in a pretty sexy cowgirl outfit. i was very close to giving her a dance, but karla was also dressed in cowgirl garb and was doing a better job of pushing my buttons.

on my next berlin run, i might have to give ella another try. she didn't leave all that lasting an impression when i went with her last fall.

cheers,

dedalus

First day at Artemis.

Arrived at 4:30 pm. Met with Charlie123, Nebula and Rocketboy. Great time with them.

To my partial disappointment, many of my favorites where missing.

Helena, Lenny, Clara, Mindy and many others where not there. In general the line up was not at it's best. Some new girls but nothing very interesting.

This said, there was enough to have fun anyways.

Sessioned with Jesse. Romanian / moldovian. Long dark hair, dark eyes, very nice body and natural tits. Not particularly intriguing face, for me. A bit pushy but not too much. Probably one of the few girls that came up to me and Charlie all evening. Maybe the girls know it' usually us choosing, or maybe we look ugly. Ahahah.

Anyway, nice session, sweet, nice BBBJ. Maybe will repeat, maybe.

Then I was attracted by a new, very good looking, very young looking girl.

"Vemena" or something like that. Bulgarian, hangs around with Conny (I did think of getting them both but didn't). Very small tits, long brown hair, very thin. From the distance she really looks very young, especially in the body but said she is 27 and that she has come to Artemis very recently, some days ago.

Good session, won't repeat.

Then, great turkish food at Hasir with Charlie.

Came back and sessioned with mythical Renee. Bulgarian, very nice face, big ass but such a great performer and so sweet. I really like her a lot. This time she has long blond hair extensions. Real good performer, lots of good chemistry going on among us. Will repeat, as usual, from time to time.

Facilities all fine as usual. Don't know about the food. Left around 2am.

Will be back today for lingerie day, the one I prefer, hope to see Nebula!

Ciaooo

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1134312]First day at Artemis.

Arrived at 4:30 pm. Met with Charlie123, Nebula and Rocketboy. Great time with them.

To my partial disappointment, many of my favorites where missing. But still enough to have fun Ciaooo[/QUOTE]K-nice to have finally met you as well. Glad Renee rang the bells. As I discussed with Charley123, it is odd sometimes how those with a tough exterior persona downstairs can be so completely different when it counts. There are others like her. And of course sometimes it is just the opposite. Lots of unpredictability to be sure, and of course, it can change depending upon day, mood, chemistry. That's why all these generalizations have to be guarded, and as Charley says within a somewhat suspect sample size. Although to be sure, when many different blokes rave about someone, that surely means something. Anyway to save some space, here, I posted a bit more on the Berlin page on the Artemis scene vs private flats-see what you think. Have fun today even when all are in cloaked mode.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1134016]Personally I would not give her a "9" in looks. Let's face it she has been in the game for a while and is showing her age.[/QUOTE]Really! But she told me she was such a romantic girl. I'm sure I was nearly falling in love with her.

Would you gents be kind enough to recommend a few Artemis ladies who provide outstanding porn star experiences? I am thinking of any or all of the following: enthisiastic CIF, swallowing, exhibitionism, and others. But above all seeking a nasty, lewd, lascivious, debauched attitude. Will be there in three weeks. Many thanks.

Rainy morning in Berlin, so I was happy to meet Charlie around 12:30 at A!

Place was very calm but after a while some of the girls that where missing on Tuesday showed up.

Lingerie day!

I don't know why exactly, but I was particularly attraceted by Kathleen. Probably because the day before, when I said "Hi" or something, I got the feeling she was very cold, almost rejecting for some reason. Wanted to see. I last sessioned with her I think a year ago, and after that some contradictory reports have been filed on her, anyways.

Had a real nice time, she was great all the time. She is now definitely in my list of favourites. Must repeat!

Then a Russian (or half Russian) girl from Oase, don't remember the name. She has been here for few days and will go back to oase in some weeks. She wears white glasses, has very nice eyes and body, dark hair, flower tatoo on the back. No chemistry, real avarage plain vanilla session. Mediocre BJ. A bit on the hurry, mechanical. Won't repeat.

To recover from the useless session, I went with Clara, as allways a top performer.

Out for a restaurant then came back and met Nebula, nice hanging around with him until 3/4 am.

During the evening sessioned with Raffaella (yes, again) , real nice. Last girl before leaving was Paola (or Paula maybe) , Dark hair, husky like eyes, Romanian / spanish (she says) , nothing special.

Airport and bye bye Berlin!

Ciaoo

[QUOTE=Customx;1134601]Would you gents be kind enough to recommend a few Artemis ladies who provide outstanding porn star experiences? I am thinking of any or all of the following: enthisiastic CIF, swallowing, exhibitionism, and others. But above all seeking a nasty, lewd, lascivious, debauched attitude. Will be there in three weeks. Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I f you are not too choosey with regard to looks I would say your chances of finding this to a satisfactory level are as follows. Exhibitionism-fairly easy. COF-reasonably easy, Enthusiastic COF-not very easy. CIM w. Swallow-quite difficult.

My reasoning-Exhibitionism, all you have to do is find a girl you click with and who has a naughty side. This is fairly easy to determine before you hit the room.

COF-finding a girl who does COF for €50, while not easy, is doable. Enthusiastic COF is generally very hit and miss in my experience. Girls who genuinely love being plastered with cum in the face are few and far between in all walks of life. Plus at an FKK like Artemis the girls have to be aware of the fact that that a face full, usually getting it in the hair as well, is not easy to recover from. That is the make up they wear gets messed and the hair needs to be washed after. This means too much down time unless you really make it worth while for them. Just a point to consider.

CIM w / swallow-finding a girl who swallows is just plain difficult. Try imagining for a moment swallowing your own load and you might see why. I really think porn has made us guys believe that a mouthful is a tasty creamy treat. I am told that this is not at all so.

I do know a girl at a bordello who might fit the bill if you are interested.

Thanks Angus and thanks for all your great work. It has been very helpful as I plan my trip.

It is really attitude I am looking for rather than a specific deed. A couple of years ago I was in the kino at Palace about midnight and a little brunette flounced in wearing a short skirt and tiny blouse with her hair in pigtails. She announced that she was a school girl looking for an anal "lesson" and hoping one of the guys would teach her. Alhough I had had no intention of doing another session she was so cute and convincing, I volunteered and we pounded away right then and there to the delight of 30 or so onlookers. Except for a quick whisper in my ear at the start to remind me that it would cost an extra 100 Euro, she remained entirely in character throughout, thanking me for the "lesson" and telling me what a good teacher I was. Sure it was all an act, but a very enjoyable one. We had a great laugh about it after. Was the most memorable session I have ever had at an FKK.

I am sure there are those at Artemis who have this kind of wicked sense of fun. Just hoping for some names to look for.

PM me the name of the bordello girl if you would be so kind. All the best.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1134768]I f you are not too choosey with regard to looks I would say your chances of finding this to a satisfactory level are as follows. Exhibitionism-fairly easy. COF-reasonably easy, Enthusiastic COF-not very easy. CIM w. Swallow-quite difficult.

My reasoning-Exhibitionism, all you have to do is find a girl you click with and who has a naughty side. This is fairly easy to determine before you hit the room.

COF-finding a girl who does COF for €50, while not easy, is doable. Enthusiastic COF is generally very hit and miss in my experience. Girls who genuinely love being plastered with cum in the face are few and far between in all walks of life. Plus at an FKK like Artemis the girls have to be aware of the fact that that a face full, usually getting it in the hair as well, is not easy to recover from. That is the make up they wear gets messed and the hair needs to be washed after. This means too much down time unless you really make it worth while for them. Just a point to consider.

CIM w / swallow-finding a girl who swallows is just plain difficult. Try imagining for a moment swallowing your own load and you might see why. I really think porn has made us guys believe that a mouthful is a tasty creamy treat. I am told that this is not at all so.

I do know a girl at a bordello who might fit the bill if you are interested. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1134768]I f you are not too choosey with regard to looks I would say your chances of finding this to a satisfactory level are as follows. Exhibitionism-fairly easy. COF-reasonably easy, Enthusiastic COF-not very easy. CIM w. Swallow-quite difficult.

My reasoning-Exhibitionism, all you have to do is find a girl you click with and who has a naughty side. This is fairly easy to determine before you hit the room.

COF-finding a girl who does COF for €50, while not easy, is doable. Enthusiastic COF is generally very hit and miss in my experience. Girls who genuinely love being plastered with cum in the face are few and far between in all walks of life. Plus at an FKK like Artemis the girls have to be aware of the fact that that a face full, usually getting it in the hair as well, is not easy to recover from. That is the make up they wear gets messed and the hair needs to be washed after. This means too much down time unless you really make it worth while for them. Just a point to consider.

CIM w / swallow-finding a girl who swallows is just plain difficult. Try imagining for a moment swallowing your own load and you might see why. I really think porn has made us guys believe that a mouthful is a tasty creamy treat. I am told that this is not at all so.

I do know a girl at a bordello who might fit the bill if you are interested. [/QUOTE]A perfect summary.

CoF is a favourite of mine, and it has been very hard to find enthusiastic practitioners. They don't like it in their eyes, and everything Angus says about the girls' concerns regarding hair and make-up is also correct. Regrettably, great porn-star facials are few and far between outside the movie world.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Customx; 1134778]It is really attitude I am looking for rather than a specific deed. A couple of years ago I was in the kino at Palace about midnight and a little brunette flounced in wearing a short skirt and tiny blouse with her hair in pigtails. She announced that she was a school girl looking for an anal "lesson" and hoping one of the guys would teach her. Alhough I had had no intention of doing another session she was so cute and convincing, I volunteered and we pounded away right then and there to the delight of 30 or so onlookers. Except for a quick whisper in my ear at the start to remind me that it would cost an extra 100 Euro, she remained entirely in character throughout, thanking me for the "lesson" and telling me what a good teacher I was. Sure it was all an act, but a very enjoyable one. We had a great laugh about it after. Was the most memorable session I have ever had at an FKK.

I am sure there are those at Artemis who have this kind of wicked sense of fun. Just hoping for some names to look for. [/QUOTE]It's great to read this story again as you have put in slightly more detail than when you described it in your post on 2 Feb, and I have not yet got round to reading the account of it which you posted under your previous identity. I wish I had been there to be delighted by your (and the girl's) performance. Good luck in your search for a similar experience.

I will be at the art this week, probably Monday and Wednesday.

Does anyone know if Siena is around? I have something for her. Apart from the usual!

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1135762]I will be at the art this week, probably Monday and Wednesday.

Does anyone know if Siena is around? I have something for her. Apart from the usual! [/QUOTE]Is that Siena from Bulgaria? If so I checked on the German forum and her name was on a list as in attendance on March 13th, last week. So I guess we can say she is around but not as definite.

AM

Dear Revevend Doctor Magee.

Thanks to Thee, I will prepare accordingly.

BSK.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1135801]Is that Siena from Bulgaria? If so I checked on the German forum and her name was on a list as in attendance on March 13th, last week. So I guess we can say she is around but not as definite.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1134923]A perfect summary.

CoF is a favourite of mine, and it has been very hard to find enthusiastic practitioners. They don't like it in their eyes, and everything Angus says about the girls' concerns regarding hair and make-up is also correct. Regrettably, great porn-star facials are few and far between outside the movie world.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Objection to the eyes is very reasonable since it can cause an infection. As to makeup, be her last session. She would not mind it and would love the bonus $$$.

Here is a list of the girls I had session with in 3 days:

Day 1, 16 March:

Nina.

Gabitza.

Vivian.

Nina.

Day 2, 17 March:

Nina.

Nadia.

Vivian.

Shaz.

Natalie.

Day 3, 18 March:

Tatiana.

Shaz.

Natalie.

Nina.

Shaz.

Just for the record, I was also at big A for three days on August last year. Sorry for not reporting, but it was due to I got very busy with work & because of a specific girl that I had many sessions with, but wouldn't write about her, as she got into some problem with another monger and was afraid that the management will close the doors of A at her.

Nina: no need to describe her, as there exists many reports about her. Had only one session with her during my last visit.

After 30 minutes of arrival on first day I spotted her. Said Hi, but got only a simple Hi back and passed by. I stopped her and asked if she could recognized me without glasses (had glasses on my first visit ). Suddenly she could remember me and told a very descriptive details of our last session. She called me the "passionate lover" (which was the exact words she told me after our sessions from last visit). Was a little shocked how she could remember details like my name, where I am from, what number room we were at, how many girls I had before her on that particular day, etc.

The best kisser I have ever meet.

Gabitza: Have read a lot about her here, and wanted to try her. Not so pretty as I expected. In the room she explained the prices and told me that CIM is 50 extra, I told her that "Yes, I know". She took that as "Yes" for CIM right away and after 10-15 minuets of BBBJ when I asked for condom and I wanted to have sex, she got a little bit upset. Then another misunderstanding happened when after 10 min. Of sex I wanted to "finish" with CIM. She told me I was finished. I said no I didn't and I want to finish with CIM. Then she explained that she had orgasm and she was "finished". We laughed about at and got a great BBBJ and titty fuck with CIM. Good session with some misunderstanding and the next two days she tried many times to repeat, but we didn't.

Vivian: pretty face, fake and big boobs (tried titty fuck, but her boobs are too apart and hard for titty fuck). A little extra meat, but still OK body. Seemed a little pushy, but meanwhile saying that she didn't mind if I needed a rest to recover and would gladly sit with me and wait ½ hour before our session. Specially on the third day, she kept reminding me that it was my last day and I shouldn't forget about her. Did DFK, but a little aggressive for my taste.

Nadia: brunette, dark brown hair, from Turkey, has worked on Frankfurt FKK. Good session, a little bit too professional.

Natalie: from poland, very very beautiful face and a body to much that face, dirty blond hair and has teeth braces. Had two session with her and both were spectacular.

Shaz: Romanian, pretty face, deep voice, tanned body, black hair. 21 years old. Very sweet girl (one of the first Romanian girl I have seen that doesn't only think about the money). Before my last session with this girl, she came to me around 1:45 pm at downstairs bar and said that she don't want to hunt guys anymore for the day and just waited for the time to pass so she can go home and asked if she can sit with me. We talked over 1 hour about different things, then we went upstairs for a smoke and then crashed on one of sofa there and talked for another hour. I was thinking about doing a repeat with Natalie, but after that long conversation with Shaz, I get to know her a little bit more and saw how sweet girl she is, I decided to do my last session on the third day with her and I don't regret it. It was the best session I had in those three days.

Tatiana: Romanian, very pretty face, brunette, dark hair. She is the reason that I booked my flight to Berlin. I had some sessions with this girl at my last visit where she has just started working in Artemis. She was like my girlfriend, every time we saw each other we just sit together and talked for hours and had great time. She was very inexperienced in this game and although not all our session went well, I couldn't resist her. When I get back I couldn't see any report about her (except one in September in berlin thread by Zabed1970). But the report of another member of the forum "The Limey" from 14 March mentioning her made my decision easy. I booked my flight right away for the 16 March. I didn't saw her in the first two days of my stay and when I asked the reception about her, they told me that she wouldn't be at Artemis. On the third day I didn't ask the reception and thought that she won't come. After arrival on third day Natalie came to me and asked if I wanted her company. I promised her that I will find her in ½ hour and will go to the room. But after ½ hour Tatiana came to me and said Hi. I was so glad to see her and asked her if she recognized me and told about my last visit and all the sessions we had. She couldn't remember nothing. After some talk we went to the room. The session was very professional and standard. She has lost her next door girl attitude and sweetness and has became a professional worker of this game.

To sum the things up, I had a great time in those three days. My dream girl that was the reason that I made this trip was not the same girl as I met her last time. But I met other sweethearts and had a great time. One big difference in my almost all sessions from this trip compared to my last visit was that I had became like a sex machine. Last visit sessions were slow and more passionate, but this time it was like in the porn movies with a little bit foreplay and then hard banging for the rest of 20-25 minuets. Nina told me after one of hour sessions that I do the act as it was sport, and when I look at my self, sweat was dropping from all my body and I was gasping for breath. The only session the I forced my self to be passionate was the last session with Shaz and it turned out to be one of the most amazing session and best orgasm I got in long time. I could also feel that Shaz was enjoying it and when I asked if she got orgasm, she answered that no, but it was because I gave her orgasm in our previous session and she had never had two orgasm in one day (the first orgasm was with my finger in her arse while giving DATY. You can feel the girls orgasm if you have finger in her arse.).

Has also made a post at berlin thread for some activities outside artemis.

Will be there this weekend. All day Saturday and most of the day Sunday, if anybody is about.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1135835]Dear Revevend Doctor Magee.

Thanks to Thee, I will prepare accordingly.

BSK. [/QUOTE]Don't mention it. Today I noticed a new post on the German forum announcing her presence on Sunday. I guess you will now that already though having been there today and hopefully slipped her your surprise.

We all look forward to the report.

AM

The other day I was enjoying Artemis, but couldn't really find a girl I really wanted badly enough to spend money on. I was about to leave when suddenly a lovely naked Colombian girl with big breasts and a great smile jumped into my path. Now I've travelled a lot in Latin America, and found that these Latina girls have a lust for life that is difficult for Europeans to match, so on the spur of the moment I changed my mind, and even forgot my rule about sitting down with a girl first and getting to know her before going to a room.

Once inside the room, Morena's attitude took a U-Turn. First she tried to upsell me, asking to do a massage, and then on my questioning revealing it would be an extra 60 euros. I denied that. As we got on with it, she started getting quite bossy, pushing my hands away and so on, refusing to do a BJ without a condom, and throughout the 30 minutes she became more and more unfriendly and was even insulting me (in three different languages). I should have stopped the session, but by the time it got really bad I was past the point of no return. It was quite cunning and sadistic of her. So I had to carry on till the end basically, and I paid her the 60 for basic service. Actually it was one of the worst sessions I've had in my life.

A note here: I think when you're having sex, positive feelings of friendliness and intimacy are enhanced by the chemicals flowing through your body. However, negative emotions are also enhanced! Bad sex is worse than no sex at all. That is why it is so important for Artemis management to filter out the sharks, something I wonder if they are up to. It's a great club in so many ways. It would be a pity if they let it slide too far.

By the way I've noticed that sharks have a specific technique you can watch out for (not just in Artemis but everywhere). You won't necessarily see it coming in the bar, but the attitude manifests itself within the first 60 seconds of a session. If you know the warning signs, you can quit the session immediately and not fund or encourage these types. Certainly I will be more alert in future and I would encourage others to do the same.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1135801]Is that Siena from Bulgaria? If so I checked on the German forum and her name was on a list as in attendance on March 13th, last week. So I guess we can say she is around but not as definite.

AM[/QUOTE]Angus, please post the link to the "German Form" you reference. I can read German.

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Forcharles; 1136317]Angus, please post the link to the "German Form" you reference. I can read German.

Thanks in advance! [/QUOTE][url]Http://www.verkehrsberichte.de/start/eingang.php[/url]

Here you go. I warn you though it is not so easy to join without the jungendschutztore.

AM

[QUOTE=The Limey;1136227]By the way I've noticed that sharks have a specific technique you can watch out for (not just in Artemis but everywhere). You won't necessarily see it coming in the bar, but the attitude manifests itself within the first 60 seconds of a session. If you know the warning signs, you can quit the session immediately and not fund or encourage these types. Certainly I will be more alert in future and I would encourage others to do the same.[/QUOTE]
True, however, once in the room pulling the plug on a session will likely involve some drama. I did this one time. Actually we had not made it to the room but were waiting for a room when I realised that the girl was under going "the change". And she was not happy. At all.

In fact after I walked away she hunted me down and dragged me to the reception demanding I pay her €60. I stood firm and management was not sure what to do. Luckily she over payed and claimed I had felt & fingered her which was a complete fabrication on her part. But I had to wait while a manager went to security and viewed security tapes (yes much of what you do in public is on tape at least for a little while in Artemis) of our supposed encounter. The manager reappeared and told her she was way off base and I had not in fact touched her.

In the end it was a very unpleasant half hour of hassel that sort of ruined the night. So by all means pull the plug if a girls does an about face in the room. But do not expect there to be no hassel. And Limey I hope you yourself at least mentioned the girl to the desk. If you have such a session and can articulate it to the desk then there is no reason not to. Artemis does listen to complaints. But be reasonable and polite about it and note to them that you paid the basic fee with no fuss.

AM

Edit: (damn short edit time)"Luckily she over payed " should read "Luckily she over played". Thought it relevant enough to the story to post a separate edit.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1136402]In fact after I walked away she hunted me down and dragged me to the reception demanding I pay her €60. I stood firm and management was not sure what to do. Luckily she over payed and claimed I had felt & fingered her which was a complete fabrication on her part. But I had to wait while a manager went to security and viewed security tapes (yes much of what you do in public is on tape at least for a little while in Artemis) of our supposed encounter. The manager reappeared and told her she was way off base and I had not in fact touched her.[/QUOTE]It's not very good for business if they give that amount of trouble to a customer who is very well established, considering that you hadn't even entered the room. I'm dismayed the girl thought she could lie like that and not get fired. Imagine if a waitress behaved like that.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1136402]In the end it was a very unpleasant half hour of hassel that sort of ruined the night. So by all means pull the plug if a girls does an about face in the room. But do not expect there to be no hassel. And Limey I hope you yourself at least mentioned the girl to the desk. If you have such a session and can articulate it to the desk then there is no reason not to.[/QUOTE]I should have done, absolutely, but unfortunately was a bit too shell-shocked.

I can confirm her presence on Monday, she is back from Sofia and looking particularly succulent. I will undertake a more detailed evaluation later in the week.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136195]Don't mention it. Today I noticed a new post on the German forum announcing her presence on Sunday. I guess you will now that already though having been there today and hopefully slipped her your surprise.

We all look forward to the report.

AM[/QUOTE]

Pleasant enough day at Artemis. Very few customers, desperate girls.

I had a couple of very pleasant hours with

Vivian

Working with trainer and in major shape (she killed me before, now I am just a marshmellow)

Just back from holiday for a few weeks, looking relaxed and toned.

Excellent brain

GFE.

Gabistza

Kinky slightly crazy large natural breasted Hungarian gal.

PSE.

In between, I made a series of errors that cost me 60 euro. I was approached by Anita for small talk, dark hair, tight body, she told me she was Jamaican (RTF, sounds familiar) , I guessed correctly that she was Moldovian from Chrisinau. She then pursued me for a couple of hours including waiting for an hour outside the sauna while I took a swim. She then joined me for dinner. Not much English, some German.

I relented and we headed to the room, no waiting this night. In the room, we had immediate (within 60 seconds) upsell for 1 hour and CIM, I suggested we start with ein halb Stunde for die erste time. This produced minor sense of humor failure but she persisted and gave an average BBBJ, we then move to somewhat rushed FS which was athletic but no eye contact and certainly nein kussen. In the midst of this she grabbed for her watch and told me 10 minutes left, better cum. This was actually the final straw, I disengaged, pulled the condom off, told her we were finished and put my robe on. I paid her the 60 euro and thanked her for her time.

Then to reinforce my stupidity, I walked out to find Siena deporting herself prostrate in front of the gaming machines. What had I been thinking?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136402]True, however, once in the room pulling the plug on a session will likely involve some drama. I did this one time. Actually we had not made it to the room but were waiting for a room when I realised that the girl was under going "the change". And she was not happy. At all.

In fact after I walked away she hunted me down and dragged me to the reception demanding I pay her €60. I stood firm and management was not sure what to do. Luckily she over payed and claimed I had felt & fingered her which was a complete fabrication on her part. But I had to wait while a manager went to security and viewed security tapes (yes much of what you do in public is on tape at least for a little while in Artemis) of our supposed encounter. The manager reappeared and told her she was way off base and I had not in fact touched her.

In the end it was a very unpleasant half hour of hassel that sort of ruined the night. So by all means pull the plug if a girls does an about face in the room. But do not expect there to be no hassel. And Limey I hope you yourself at least mentioned the girl to the desk. If you have such a session and can articulate it to the desk then there is no reason not to. Artemis does listen to complaints. But be reasonable and polite about it and note to them that you paid the basic fee with no fuss.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1136459]Pleasant enough day at Artemis. Very few customers, desperate girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Bearsk. It is unfortunate that I can not at this time join you today, Tuesday evening, and compare notes.

One thing I feel to point out to the forum is that it does indeed seem that there are two Vivians working at Artemis. Rather there is the Vivian who Bearsk mentions and she also goes by Fatima. (In fact I think her name is now Fatima as this is how she appears on the Artemis HP) This Vivian / Fatima is very slim with A cup breast. I have session-ed Vivian many times and as Bearsk can attest to she is a delight and skilled lover.

The other Vivian has large implants. She is mentioned in Shah Khan's report below and I have never knowingly met her.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan]Vivian: pretty face, fake and big boobs (tried titty fuck, but her boobs are too apart and hard for titty fuck). A little extra meat, but still OK body. Seemed a little pushy, but meanwhile saying that she didn't mind if I needed a rest to recover and would gladly sit with me and wait ½ hour before our session. Specially on the third day, she kept reminding me that it was my last day and I shouldn't forget about her. Did DFK, but a little aggressive for my taste.[/QUOTE]If you happen to read this before heading out to day Bearsk, and if it feels appropriate to you, please give my regards to Fatima. Tell her I may be making a visit sometime in early May after my cooking gig at the Tantra weekend (late April) where I hope to make a little bit of extra cash.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136471]If you happen to read this before heading out to day Bearsk, and if it feels appropriate to you, please give my regards to Fatima. Tell her I may be making a visit sometime in early May after my cooking gig at the Tantra weekend (late April) where I hope to make a little bit of extra cash.

AM[/QUOTE]Angus.

You are indeed correct but I will take it upon myself to inspect Vivian-Fatima for fake ones (they were real, A cup and tantalizing on money).

I will pass on your regards; she was panting for a visit from the Scottish-Canadian love machine last night.

I will break the Mantra weekend gig to her gently.

BSK

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1136171]Tatiana: Romanian, very pretty face, brunette, dark hair. She is the reason that I booked my flight to Berlin. I had some sessions with this girl at my last visit where she has just started working in Artemis. She was like my girlfriend, every time we saw each other we just sit together and talked for hours and had great time. She was very inexperienced in this game and although not all our session went well, I couldn't resist her. . I was so glad to see her and asked her if she recognized me and told about my last visit and all the sessions we had. She couldn't remember nothing. After some talk we went to the room. The session was very professional and standard. She has lost her next door girl attitude and sweetness and has became a professional worker of this game.

My dream girl that was the reason that I made this trip was not the same girl as I met her last time. [/QUOTE]During times of reflection, I play the Doobie Brothers: "What a Fool Believes".

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1136640]During times of reflection, I play the Doobie Brothers: "What a Fool Believes".[/QUOTE]Hehehehe. Sorry. Can't help but laugh a tiny bit at this one.

"The sentimental fool don't see, Tryin' hard to recreate what had yet to be created."

Cheers,

Dedalus, who, for better or for worse and despite his incomparable charms, is too doggone cynical to expect much special affection from the ladies

[QUOTE=Shah Khan;1136171]She is the reason that I booked my flight to Berlin. I had some sessions with this girl at my last visit where she has just started working in Artemis. She was like my girlfriend, every time we saw each other we just sit together and talked for hours and had great time. I was so glad to see her and asked her if she recognized me and told about my last visit and all the sessions we had. She couldn't remember nothing.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, they sometimes can't remember that they fucked you two hours ago.

And it goes the other way round too. She remembers who you are, where you come from, when you met, what you did, where you did it and for how long, what you wanted to do but were not allowed to do, which animal noises you got her to make to embarrass her in front of her friends, how long you argued at reception, all that routine sort of stuff; and you haven't a clue that you ever met her. One girl at Artemis remembered me in awesome detail after a gap of three years, and no longer speaks to me because after a few minutes it was perfectly obvious I couldn't remember her at all. Not even her arse. LOL.

[QUOTE=Shah Khan;1136171]Tatiana: Romanian, very pretty face, brunette, dark hair. She is the reason that I booked my flight to Berlin. But the report of another member of the forum "The Limey" from 14 March mentioning her made my decision easy. I booked my flight right away for the 16 March. I was so glad to see her and asked her if she recognized me and told about my last visit and all the sessions we had. She couldn't remember nothing. After some talk we went to the room. The session was very professional and standard. She has lost her next door girl attitude and sweetness and has became a professional worker of this game.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that, Shah Khan. It only took me about 30 minutes to convert her from being the sweet innocent country girl she was last week to the hardened pro she is today.

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1136640]During times of reflection, I play the Doobie Brothers: "What a Fool Believes".[/QUOTE]If you really want to reflect during this song, try this:

YouTube: Neri Per Caso. What a Fool Believes feat. Mario Biondi.

Almost better than the original, I do say so myself.

This excellent. I wonder if its on the Artemis play list?

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1136825]If you really want to reflect during this song, try this:

YouTube: Neri Per Caso. What a Fool Believes feat. Mario Biondi.

Almost better than the original, I do say so myself. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toscana;1136789]One girl at Artemis remembered me in awesome detail after a gap of three years, and no longer speaks to me because after a few minutes it was perfectly obvious I couldn't remember her at all. Not even her arse. LOL.[/QUOTE]Last time at Artemis, I was really embarrassed since I did not remember Marketa, until I looked down. Actually same this time with Gabistza. I am diagnosable? I enjoyed looking down and the memories.

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1136827]I am diagnosable? I enjoyed looking down and the memories.[/QUOTE]Diagnosable? No not at all. In fact if the recent studie are to be believed (and I read them on the internet so why would I not believe them?) there are measurable medical benefits associated with staring at women'are breasts.

[url]http://www.themedguru.com/20091206/newsfeature/stare-boobs-longer-life-study-86131320.html[/url]

So Bearsk, Dr Angus' prescription for you is to take two (at least) and call me in the morning if you do not improve.

AM

[QUOTE=Ortos; 1136825]If you really want to reflect during this song, try this:

YouTube: Neri Per Caso. What a Fool Believes feat. Mario Biondi. [/QUOTE]For all the lazy asses out there.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCntYrVahcE&playnext=1&list=PL8A8DDB33CAEA2A59[/url]

But it is not playable from within Germany unless you use an isp shield (damn you Sony).

This one is but I an mot 100% sure it is the same artist. It is good though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=den3dcmLdR8[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136832]For all the lazy asses out there.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCntYrVahcE&playnext=1&list=PL8A8DDB33CAEA2A59[/url]

But it is not playable from within Germany unless you use an isp shield (damn you Sony).

This one is but I an mot 100% sure it is the same artist. It is good though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=den3dcmLdR8[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Sorry, I guess I'm the "Lazy Ass" you are referring to: Mea Culpa!

Anyway the version I refer to is a studio version on Ner Per Caso's 2010 album. It features the song "What a Fool Believes" with guest vocalist Mario Biondi. Really, really fantastic, even Michael McDonald gives it a big thumb's up! I think you can find it if you google Neri Per Caso and the song title.

The version you link Angus is good too. It is indeed a live version of the song by Neri Per Caso, but without Mario! The first link, is Mario, but without Neri Per Caso! So if you want the real thing, go for the studio version with both and turn the volume up loud:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EXyPrRvbos&feature=related[/url]

See, I'm not a lazy ass after all.

O

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136832]For all the lazy asses out there.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCntYrVahcE&playnext=1&list=PL8A8DDB33CAEA2A59[/url]

But it is not playable from within Germany unless you use an isp shield (damn you Sony).

This one is but I an mot 100% sure it is the same artist. It is good though.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=den3dcmLdR8[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Like that Mario. But I still say that MM owns that tune, and pretty much anything else he sings.

Back in the day when Ruth was working the downstairs bar at World, I could give her a cd to put in the player with many favs from the Dedalus music shelve, and Michael McDonald was always part of the works. I even remember getting a nice lap grind to "I Keep Forgetting" from Georgia (now Karla at Artemis). Fond memories!

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus;1136848]I could give her a cd to put in the player with many favs from the Dedalus music shelve,[/QUOTE]What's a cd? How can I play this on my Ipod?

[QUOTE=Ortos;1136838]Sorry, I guess I'm the "Lazy Ass" you are referring to: Mea Culpa![/QUOTE]Honestly I was not calling you a lazy ass Ortos. After all it took me all of 30 secs to find and post those two clips. Unfortunately I was still not 100% sure if I had the correct version as I am only familiar with the Doobie Bros. Version of the song. Also unfortunate is the fact that I can not view the Sony material from with in Germany without firing up the Hotspot shield which I am just too damn lazy to do.

Also grooveshark is a great pace to find different versions of songs. I found this and really like it.

[url]http://listen.grooveshark.com/s/What+A+Fool+Believes/3eDQQI?src=5[/url]

And philosophically I support the foolish belief that the ladies we visit at Artemis and other establishments "love" us if only for the moment and with the aid of those "fidies" we so generously give them at the end of the half hour. At its' heart love has, among other qualities, a great deal of foolishness and I personally will take what ever little bit of the stuff is offered. Even if it comes along attached to the expectation of a cash reward. I guess that sensible love has its' place in the world but, the foolishness of an ardent monger in the throes of an FKK crush probably also feeds the furnace of that ficklest of Gods, Eros.

AM

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1136827]Last time at Artemis, I was really embarrassed since I did not remember Marketa, until I looked down. Actually same this time with Gabistza. I am diagnosable? I enjoyed looking down and the memories.[/QUOTE]Same to me with Jesse. I was almost sure it was my first session ever with her but just before I was leaving she came up and told me she remebered that we had another session before that, about a year ago. A detail convinced me she wasn't bullshitting me and she was real sweet about it.

Boh, I know I'll go with her again next time so, if it was a strategy, it's working! Ahaha.

I'll be at A on the weekend between 8 and 10. It's quite a long time I don't go to A on a wekend, and there's also a messe of some kind. Hope it's not going to be too crowded. Not worried anyways.

Ciao

Just been there for the first time.

I wii write a detailed report later, because I can't from my mobile right now.

I just want to know, cause I will be back tomorrow.

Is the 60+50 for cim negotiable at all. Because I went with 4 girls and none of them accepted anything less from 110 for owo and cim.

I just think that many girls who just sit there all night without even one customer, would accept just the basic fee of 60 euros. That's at least what common sense says.

Dear Rev. Dr. Magee.

Took both of Marketa's today.

The patients and his nurse are resting comfortably. For a few minutes at least.

BSK.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1136830]Diagnosable? No not at all. In fact if the recent studie are to be believed (and I read them on the internet so why would I not believe them?) there are measurable medical benefits associated with staring at women'are breasts.

[url]http://www.themedguru.com/20091206/newsfeature/stare-boobs-longer-life-study-86131320.html[/url]

So Bearsk, Dr Angus' prescription for you is to take two (at least) and call me in the morning if you do not improve.

AM[/QUOTE]

Visited Artemis yesterday. Not much different from my experience when Kimino was here last week.

The Good:

-Lotsa new faces eagerly waiting to be explored.

-Quite a high girl-to-monger ratio.

The Bad:

-Some of my favorites seem to have disappeared into thin air during the 3 weeks I was away.

-Slow atmosphere.

Okay, the last one could also be listed in the Good list, but in this case it has been rubbing me in a negative way. Despite being a fan of visiting Artemis on Sunday or early weekdays, the overall slowness scale seems to have slipped a little too much for my taste this month. So many gorgeous girls sitting around bored to death with comparatively few men running around. If it was my first time in Artemis, I'm sure I would have liked this atmosphere a lot. But, these days, I seem to enjoy a playing atmosphere with a high circulation where you have to keep your open to catch "that girl" or her backup, her backup's backup. In effect, it makes me want to "do it" more.

Don't despair though, fellow monger! According to my sources in Artemis, this happens every year around March, and things go back to the way it was after that. At least, until the summer slowdown. With the messes coming in early April, hopefully it will all go back to rainbows and ponies in no time.

Since the topic seems to have come to the FKK music, here's a couple of pointless ramblings:

Has anyone noticed the DJ's rickrolling people every night on the secondary playlist they're playing to the rooms upstairs and the pool lounge area?

Am I the only one to get distracted when they play the "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" song from Monty Python's Life of Brian in the rooms? It's okay during foreplay, but I just have to close my eyes and go to my 'happy place' when they play it while I'm in the middle of hardcore action.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1136973]Since the topic seems to have come to the FKK music, .

Am I the only one to get distracted when they play the "Always Look on the Bright Side of Life" song from Monty Python's Life of Brian in the rooms? It's okay during foreplay, but I just have to close my eyes and go to my 'happy place' when they play it while I'm in the middle of hardcore action. [/QUOTE]Could not agree more. Very difficult to decide which is more erotic: listening to pumped-up techno, or sticking hot pokers in one's eyes. But there is a simple solution: turn it off in the rooms. On all inside walls generally by the door, there is a black dial near the light switches which controls volume. Just shut it off completely so you can concentrate on your partner's breathing and moaning.

[QUOTE=Nebula2001; 1136972]Visited Artemis yesterday. Not much different from my experience when Kimino was here last week.

The Good:

-Lotsa new faces eagerly waiting to be explored.

-Quite a high girl-to-monger ratio.

The Bad:

-Some of my favorites seem to have disappeared into thin air during the 3 weeks I was away.

-Slow atmosphere.

Okay, the last one could also be listed in the Good list, but in this case it has been rubbing me in a negative way. Despite being a fan of visiting Artemis on Sunday or early weekdays, the overall slowness scale seems to have slipped a little too much for my taste this month. So many gorgeous girls sitting around bored to death with comparatively few men running around. If it was my first time in Artemis, I'm sure I would have liked this atmosphere a lot. But, these days, I seem to enjoy a playing atmosphere with a high circulation where you have to keep your open to catch "that girl" or her backup, her backup's backup. In effect, it makes me want to "do it" more.

Don't despair though, fellow monger! According to my sources in Artemis, this happens every year around March, and things go back to the way it was after that. At least, until the summer slowdown. With the messes coming in early April, hopefully it will all go back to rainbows and ponies in no time. [/QUOTE]Don't worry man, we will keep up the pressure when I fly up in a couple of weeks. Ahahaha.

What about "our" blonde friend?

Ciaooo

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1136986]Could not agree more. Very difficult to decide which is more erotic: listening to pumped-up techno, or sticking hot pokers in one's eyes. But there is a simple solution: turn it off in the rooms. On all inside walls generally by the door, there is a black dial near the light switches which controls volume. Just shut it off completely so you can concentrate on your partner's breathing and moaning.[/QUOTE]Music has been less and less interesting lately at Artemis. I like music when I fuck, even loud music actually, I know, It's like when I say I love lingerie day, majority don't agree, still the music lately sucks.

In my memory, the best music and sound equipment I found in an Fkk was at Paradise, Stuttgart. Awesome!

Ciaooo

Today at Artemis was busier than Monday with many experienced girls crying about making ends meet.

I saw three blondes: Marketa. Czech, Siena. Bulgaria, Antonia Romania. All three really excellent. Siena is a special favorite, would is that she may head home for a prolonged period. I guess see her while you can. She tells me Mary has return. A past favorite. I saw a new girl at the end. Heather from Bucharest, dark should length hair, cute, young. Worth exploring; I will need live vicariously through the forum for the next few months.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;]I just think that many girls who just sit there all night without even one customer, would accept just the basic fee of 60 euros. That's at least what common sense says.[/QUOTE]I think the idea is to keep the prices fixed to avoid girls undercutting each other and to keep the whole thing sort of civil. If price is such an issue there is plenty of negotiation available on the street level of "ho-dom". Artemis and the FKK model of business attempts to give the whole thing an aura of class by eliminating the somewhat unpleasant side of financial negotiation. If you want to play in this bordello be prepared to pay the going rate.

Of course you can always try to negotiate but don't be surprised if this makes you very, very unpopular with the ladies.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137115]I think the idea is to keep the prices fixed to avoid girls undercutting each other and to keep the whole thing sort of civil. If price is such an issue there is plenty of negotiation available on the street level of "ho-dom". Artemis and the FKK model of business attempts to give the whole thing an aura of class by eliminating the somewhat unpleasant side of financial negotiation. If you want to play in this bordello be prepared to pay the going rate.

Of course you can always try to negotiate but don't be surprised if this makes you very, very unpopular with the ladies.

AM[/QUOTE]Well I disagree totally.

Negotiation is one of the most basic rules in business!

One of the 5 girls I tried was a petite Moldavian, Izabelle, with a nice ass.

We agreed on 110 for half hour, but after 10 minutes she strted saying "come on, you must finish now, we cannot stay here forever"

Is this an "aura of class" or just stealing money?

I believe that the aura of class is given by the facilities, the girls, the atmosphere and definitely not by the lack of negotiation!

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1137211]Well I disagree totally.

Negotiation is one of the most basic rules in business!

One of the 5 girls I tried was a petite Moldavian, Izabelle, with a nice ass.

We agreed on 110 for half hour, but after 10 minutes she strted saying "come on, you must finish now, we cannot stay here forever"

Is this an "aura of class" or just stealing money?

I believe that the aura of class is given by the facilities, the girls, the atmosphere and definitely not by the lack of negotiation! [/QUOTE]If you disagree you should probably go and say this to the staff, they might decide to change the rules.

You are asking how it works at Artemis, and you got the answer.

If you don't like it you should probably change place as I don't think you will be sucessful in changing how things work there.

I personally love the fact that there's no negotiation happening at A.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Dim Yann;1137211]Well I disagree totally.![/QUOTE]Well go for it then. See how long you last.

And if you had done your homework (like read over the forum) you would have know that this girl has a bad rep. She is mentioned more than once in the forum as a bit sharkish.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137115]I think the idea is to keep the prices fixed to avoid girls undercutting each other and to keep the whole thing sort of civil. If price is such an issue there is plenty of negotiation available on the street level of "ho-dom". Artemis and the FKK model of business attempts to give the whole thing an aura of class by eliminating the somewhat unpleasant side of financial negotiation. If you want to play in this bordello be prepared to pay the going rate.

Of course you can always try to negotiate but don't be surprised if this makes you very, very unpopular with the ladies.

AM[/QUOTE]Just out of curiosity, and not in any sort of attempt to negotiate a lower rate, I have spoke to a few girls recently about pricing. In particular I asked whether there would be any enthusiasm amongst the girls for a new price structure based on the NRW model. In NRW, the first half hour is 50E, then 25E for another 30 minutes, another 50E for the third half-hour, the 25E for the 4th half-hour etc. It occurred to me that in the present financial climate such a pricing structure would benefit all sides. The guys would have every inducement to extend a session beyond 30 minutes whilst the girls would regularly get an extra 25E (50% increase) for time that they would otherwise be spending in the lounge trying to pick up the next customer.

The response I got was a resounding 'No! ' from all the girls I mentioned this idea to. 'I don't fuck for 25E' was the typical response.

So, even if management were amenable (which they aren't) , I don't envisage much appetite for price refinement amongst the ladies.

Charlie

One of my regular girls told me that management will be requiring all the girls to post pictures and some sort of bio on the website in future.

She was dead against it, of course, but I think it's a splendid idea.

C

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1137211]Well I disagree totally.

Negotiation is one of the most basic rules in business!

One of the 5 girls I tried was a petite Moldavian, Izabelle, with a nice ass.

We agreed on 110 for half hour, but after 10 minutes she strted saying "come on, you must finish now, we cannot stay here forever"

Is this an "aura of class" or just stealing money?

I believe that the aura of class is given by the facilities, the girls, the atmosphere and definitely not by the lack of negotiation! [/QUOTE]Hey Dim,

I wouldn't say that negotiation is an impossible dream in the FKK clubs. However I think you'll find only a minuscule number of SPs who will bother to negotiate with you; especially when it comes to the price of a basic. 30 minute session, and most of the common extras.

Now having said that, where you could have some room to negotiate is when booking extended sessions (I. E. 1.5 hours or more) and multiple extras in a single session. Recently a girl at Oase offered me an "all nighter" for 300 EUR. This was 'round midnight and would have essentially meant 4. 5 hours of room time. Not the first time I have received such an offer. This can happen on very slow nights or conversely, on nights that are VERY busy, crowded, stressful and when room waits are especially long.

Now, if you decided to try and "nickel-and-dime" most girls when it comes down to a normal session, then you will be quite surprised how fast (and I mean within a period of ca. 1.5 hours) you will get labeled by most SPs as someone to be avoided. These girls size up the clientele and usually share their observations with their clicks. Many of us "regular" club-goers would be rather surprised to know what our "guest scorecard" is amongst the working girls.

I'll give you an example: I've been hitting clubs for well over a decade and at one club in particular, I am known as a somewhat fun guy who usually sticks to his regulars and more often than not does 50 EUR sessions and no extras. This is pretty close to accurate, as I maybe extend one out of five sessions and rarely throw an extra into the mix. This tendency changes when I visit the NRW clubs since extras and hour sessions are more of a bargain.

When a couple of running mates of mine and I hit this club, and if we happen to be lusting after the same lady, I usually end up batting cleanup since these guys more often than not take hour long sessions. Plus, they are handsome dudes, and despite my many charms I might come up a tad short in the looks department compared to these bums. (I have to mention this, otherwise they will get their very sensitive feelings hurt.)

I also know a guy who tends to be very rough with the girls and I have actually had a few girls hide behind me when he comes anywhere near. These girls haven't been to the room with him. They just know his rep.

Maybe it's not important to you, but one of the best ways to make your club visit (s) enjoyable, is to have a good reputation with the girls, and that evaluation starts pretty much from the first moment you enter a club. If you are know as "cheapskate boy" then many girls, especially the better SPs, won't bother with you. Or if so, then they probably will not give you their A-game in the room. I've heard so many girls complain to me about guests who try to negotiate a 30 minute session for less than the standard house price.

Still, as AM says, go for it if you must. It's your choice.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus; 1137298]Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]Thanks Dedalus for a much more comprehensive explanation of negotiating price reductions than I had the energy to give. What I get from all of this is that if the girls like you, and if you show a willingness to pay the prices, you are more likely to get a break on a longer session with a girl you actually like and upon whom you actually want to spend time and money.

I am much like you when I make my infrequent visits these day-a half hour man, no extras. I find though that as I am pretty straight with the girls I tend to get a pretty reasonable level of service. Of course some try the up sell but as I am firm and polite about it they never end up taking my refusal as an insult.

As for the below mentioned Isabella, I remembered that when I session-ed with her (a couple of years back) the session ended when she miss timed my CIM (I used to do extras) and choked. The final 5 minutes of the already short session were spent with her hunched over the waste basket hacking up some of my man juice that apparently sprayed in her throat. How sexy is that?

She then informed me I owed her a further 50 for the swallow that would have made it 160 for a 20 minute sub par session. I invited her to discuss it with the reception and she declined the offer. She has never once so much as looked at me in my further visits to Artemis. I did have some sympathy for the girl's plight but not quite enough to pull out the extra 50.

AM

[QUOTE=Dedalus;1137298]... the best ways to make your club visit (s) enjoyable, is to have a good reputation with the girls, and that evaluation starts pretty much from the first moment you enter a club...[/QUOTE]Double quote!

And the opposite is also totally true.

This is actually the best way to "negotiate" and to make real "business" in an FKK. IMHO.

Obviously this is only possible if it's coming natural and spontaneous.

Ciaoo

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137319]Thanks Dedalus for a much more comprehensive explanation of negotiating price reductions than I had the energy to give.

What I get from all of this is that if the girls like you, and if you show a willingness to pay the prices, you are more likely to get a break on a longer session with a girl you actually like and upon whom you actually want to spend time and money. [/QUOTE]Hey AM,

More or less true. I have to emphasize that an accepted negotiation for a reduced price for services rendered ain't all that common in the clubs. Most of the better SPs will do just fine by sticking to the house prices, or even in some cases going above them. Lots of us are suckers with our Euros.

Also, if I were new at this and unknown at a club, I'd worry a bit about negotiating say, anal for 50 at Oase. Suppose a girl decides at the end of the session that she wants 100 for the extra and takes you to the front to complain. In a situation like this, I'm sure that the club will side with the girl. Far fetched? Wouldn't be the first time that a girl lost her memory about or "misunderstood" a negotiation.

Now if you are a club regular then it might be different. Also if you know a girl and have a good relationship with her, then you should be OK.

Personally, I usually decline the long term sessions. 300 for 4. 5 hours may seem like a deal, but at that point of the evening I probably only have a few pops, and I could do long-time girl and and different honey for only 100. Plus I have issues with paying a girl, even one that I like for conversation and smoke breaks.

I'm guessing that Mr. Dim might be using the p4p settings in some Asian fun centers as a model for how things are done. But it's a different game in D'land.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137319]I am much like you when I make my infrequent visits these day-a half hour man, no extras. I find though that as I am pretty straight with the girls I tend to get a pretty reasonable level of service. Of course some try the up sell but as I am firm and polite about it they never end up taking my refusal as an insult.

AM[/QUOTE]Most girls will give a solid half hour session (unless we are talking about Palace) , and I don't mind an SP offering extras. It's her job and in her interest. Also, even though I don't hit Artemis all that often, I've never had an issue with a gal getting sullen about doing just a regular 30 minute deal. I think it might be due to the 60 Eur rate.

Cheers,

Dedalus

Isabel is a lazy piece and a shark.

You don't quite get the business model or the culture.

The fact that you loudly discussed this with more than one girl gave you an instant rep, not too different to Isabel. Just as Isabel did not provide the service expected, you are asking to be different before you have developed any sort of rapport.

BNy way of further comment, some girls are reluctant to go with Asian guys for a variety of silly reasons. This sort of negotiation may further stigmatize you and interfere with your experience.

We await your report which will be your first such contribution to ISG.

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1137211]Well I disagree totally.

Negotiation is one of the most basic rules in business!

One of the 5 girls I tried was a petite Moldavian, Izabelle, with a nice ass.

We agreed on 110 for half hour, but after 10 minutes she strted saying "come on, you must finish now, we cannot stay here forever"

Is this an "aura of class" or just stealing money?

I believe that the aura of class is given by the facilities, the girls, the atmosphere and definitely not by the lack of negotiation! [/QUOTE]

Priceless. Would have paid to be fly on wall for that.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137319]As for the below mentioned Isabella, I remembered that when I session-ed with her (a couple of years back) the session ended when she miss timed my CIM (I used to do extras) and choked. The final 5 minutes of the already short session were spent with her hunched over the waste basket hacking up some of my man juice that apparently sprayed in her throat. How sexy is that?

She then informed me I owed her a further 50 for the swallow that would have made it 160 for a 20 minute sub par session. I invited her to discuss it with the reception and she declined the offer. She has never once so much as looked at me in my further visits to Artemis. I did have some sympathy for the girl's plight but not quite enough to pull out the extra 50.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1137286]The response I got was a resounding 'No! ' from all the girls I mentioned this idea to. 'I don't fuck for 25E' was the typical response.

So, even if management were amenable (which they aren't) , I don't envisage much appetite for price refinement amongst the ladies.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Some years ago I was employed by a company who hired someone to try to get us worker bees to think more like entrepreneurs. The basic idea of the seminar was that a person who works [b]for[/b] Someone tends to not want anything to change even if it ultimately might benefit them. Employees tend to think only short term when it comes to their benefits (pay scale). So asking and employee to take a hit in their salary so that the [b]might[/b] Benefit at some unspecified time in the future is an up hill battle.

That the girls at Artemis are not really employees does not seem to matter. What matters is that they seem to think of themselves as such.

I don't know but I can imagine that with the 50-25-50 (or 60-30-60 if they wanted) structure they would encourage longer sessions and in the end make more. But they would have to agree and they would have to maybe take a short term hit.

One thing I know, I would not want to be the manager who tries to implement this new structure. He / she would likely be very unpopular.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1137549]I don't know but I can imagine that with the 50-25-50 (or 60-30-60 if they wanted) structure they would encourage longer sessions and in the end make more.[/QUOTE]As a monger who does about half of his sessions 1 hour or longer, I would certainly prefer a 50-25-50/60-30-60 system. But I don't think even a 60-30-60 would offer much of an advantage for the girls' interest. Personally, when I go for one hour, I don't usually decide it rationally beforehand. In fact, I don't usually decide for it at all; it kinda just happens. Of course, the availability of a cheaper time extension would let me be more liberal, but I don't think it would make much of a difference, unless I'm feeling financially uncomfortable that day. And if that's the case, I'm not going to be a good customer that day anyway.

TBH though, I have never been to an NRW FKK, so I can't really guess how such a pricing would affect my spending. I may very well be having the "employee" syndrome myself.

Or, quite possibly, the Stockholm syndrome. (:

All this Artemis talk made me get "fever" again. I'll probably visit the club today, even if for a few hours.

I visited Artemis expecting a paradise on earth, but I can say it is a very nice place and nothing more.

THe facilities and the decoration seemed old fashioned to me.

First day I saw 4 girls.

1. Jane, slim blonde German girl. 1.75, model type. Service was good, especiall the oral and cim.

2. Isabelle, petite Moldavian with a nice ass. She wanted to finish me as soon as possible. Her owo-cim was good though.

3. Katrina, woohhhh. Brunette, monika belluci look alike. 22 years. 1.75 with huge boobs, silicon but extremely good job, almost like natural.

Nice girl, talkative and polite. Service satisfying.

4. Sienna, blonde Bulgarian with nice body, average height.

The best of all that I tried.

PSE service and without clock watching at all.

Next day.

Don't laugh at me, but I don't remember a single name from the 4 girls I met that day (Thursday night, the first visit was Tuesday afternoon)

1. I went with the reed hair, tall, Romanian, with deep tan. She told me she is Russian, but I saw her all the time sitting with ROmanian girls and speaking Italian.

ALthough she looked like a shark, in the room she provided a good service and she did not clock watch.

2. A blonde Polish girl with a strange name, Soy. Something like this.

Blonde curly hair, average height.

Avoid her, she wants to finish the session and go downstairs. Blow job average.

3. Next mistake.

Blonde BUlgarian, very tall, hair like MErilyn, tatoo all over her back.

Looked sexy in the lobby, but when I saw her in the room, she looked below average, not very pretty.

Service mechanical.

4. Romanian Ionella. Tall, brunette, with green eyes. 22 years. Very pretty girl.

Service in the room was ok.

That was it, first day was good, second day almost disaster.

40 girls. 3-4 9s'.10-15 8s' and the rest in the area of 7.

To sum up, you don't find in Artemis the amazing women from American strip shows that we see in movies (Katrina in fact was this type of girl).

The majority of women are average, but thhe fact that you see 50 women all together makes, makes this place special.

I apologize for some mistakes, but I am writing from my iPad and the conditions are not perfect for writing!

[QUOTE=Nebula2001;1137568]All this Artemis talk made me get "fever" again. I'll probably visit the club today, even if for a few hours.[/QUOTE]I hate you Nebula2001.
:-)

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1137211]Well I disagree totally.

Negotiation is one of the most basic rules in business!

One of the 5 girls I tried was a petite Moldavian, Izabelle, with a nice ass.

We agreed on 110 for half hour, but after 10 minutes she strted saying "come on, you must finish now, we cannot stay here forever"

Is this an "aura of class" or just stealing money?

I believe that the aura of class is given by the facilities, the girls, the atmosphere and definitely not by the lack of negotiation! [/QUOTE]You get what you pay for. How would you feel, and how would you perform if your boss decided to negotiate your salary and benefits to a lower level? Do you go to your local grocery store and try to negotiate the prices when the vegetables seem a bit old? As they say, if you can't afford to pay--you can't afford to play.

Hot off the press, gentlemen! The March hiatus has ended. Artemis is back on business.

Along with the new faces that joined the ranks in the last month, multiple favorites of mine have come back. Some of them even seem to have lost their extra weight during their vacation. The overall playing atmosphere is also back, even if some of the newly returned girls were complaining about "lazy men" and "stupid Italians". No offense to Kimino. (:

Get your taste while it's hot.

Apologies for the brief fatigued post below.

I am OK, I was just really tired.

I left at 4am.

Two impressions:

Customer volume. May be seasonal but I worry when some very solid performers complain about business. A couple mentioned they were going elsewhere on a website based venture to see if that works better. Hopefully we will not lose them.

On a positive note, there was a great atmosphere in the club after 3. 30am. There were very few men so the girls sort of took over the club with various types of dancing including some great belly dancing accompanied by the girls singing along with various songs. This was really nice. I stood with a drink and watched, talking to a few. Notable Sammy a very tall, slim brunette from Berlin, Victoria from Bulgaria now has red hair. Suits her. She still has a beautifully musclular back, ass and legs, I also met the legendary Connie for the first time.

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1137085]Today at Artemis was busier than Monday with many experienced girls crying about making ends meet.

I saw three blondes: Marketa. Czech, Siena. Bulgaria, Antonia Romania. All three really excellent. Siena is a special favorite, would is that she may head home for a prolonged period. I guess see her while you can. She tells me Mary has return. A past favorite. I saw a new girl at the end. Heather from Bucharest, dark should length hair, cute, young. Worth exploring; I will need live vicariously through the forum for the next few months. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1137289]One of my regular girls told me that management will be requiring all the girls to post pictures and some sort of bio on the website in future.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I also recently read that there would be some sort of on line schedule so we would know on any given day which ladies are working. Not sure myself if this is a good thing or not. On the one hand I have on occasion wanted to know if a favorite would be there. But then it does sort of take away the surprise element.

Wait and see I guess.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1137830]Interesting. I also recently read that there would be some sort of on line schedule so we would know on any given day which ladies are working. Not sure myself if this is a good thing or not. On the one hand I have on occasion wanted to know if a favorite would be there. But then it does sort of take away the surprise element.

Wait and see I guess.

AM[/QUOTE]You can still have the surprise element, just don't look at the schedule and you'll be surprised everytime.

I just want to thank all who have made the effort to post reports. I especially want to thank Angus for his wonderful "Walk to Artemis from Westkrues" video. I stumbled on to it doing a Youtube search.

I will be flying into TXL Thursday afternoon and booked a room at AVUS (51 Halenseestrabe) for 39 Euros using [url]www.agoda.com[/url] I plan to spend a long Thursday afternoon / evening at Artemis. I am visiting Germany (Europe) for the first time to visit my son studying in Greifswald. I will take a train up north the next day.

I travel extensively to Philippines, Thailand, Costa Rica and Colombia- but never been to Europe. I do have a couple of general questions:

1) I will be short of time in Berlin- where can I exchange US dollars for Euros? Are the airport ATMs or exchange booths ripoffs compared to elsewhere? (It seems that airports are often terrible places to change money- in some countries they are as good as anywhere)

2) Are there any experts here on the Greifswald area- anything going on up there?

Thanks! Troyboy

Error: I will be arriving and visiting Artemis Thursday March 31.

[QUOTE=Troyboy; 1138018]I just want to thank all who have made the effort to post reports. I especially want to thank Angus for his wonderful "Walk to Artemis from Westkrues" video. I stumbled on to it doing a Youtube search.

I will be flying into TXL Thursday afternoon and booked a room at AVUS (51 Halenseestrabe) for 39 Euros using.

[url]www.agoda.com[/url]

I plan to spend a long Thursday afternoon / evening at Artemis. I am visiting Germany (Europe) for the first time to visit my son studying in Greifswald. I will take a train up north the next day.

I travel extensively to Philippines, Thailand, Costa Rica and Colombia- but never been to Europe. I do have a couple of general questions:

1) I will be short of time in Berlin- where can I exchange US dollars for Euros? Are the airport ATMs or exchange booths ripoffs compared to elsewhere? (It seems that airports are often terrible places to change money- in some countries they are as good as anywhere)

2) Are there any experts here on the Greifswald area- anything going on up there?

Thanks! Troyboy[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Akibono;1137767]You get what you pay for. How would you feel, and how would you perform if your boss decided to negotiate your salary and benefits to a lower level? Do you go to your local grocery store and try to negotiate the prices when the vegetables seem a bit old? As they say, if you can't afford to pay--you can't afford to play.[/QUOTE]I just made a point, that it is better for a girl who doesn't make even one customer, to take 60-70-80 than nothing!

Thats common sense I think.

I don't understand your aggressive style.

Some people here speak as if they are spokesmen of the girls.

Anyway, I noticed a few other things.

1. Black girls are very busy, probably because they are exotic to us!

2. You can see model type girls sit for 5-6 hours without anyone talking to them, while other girls with not so good looks make 4-5 customers.

3. Clara the brunette Romanian has one of the best bodies in the club, really perfect body.

But she was always in the lobby. Not once did I not see her going upstairs with someone!

4. I asked before 3-4 months if MILFs work there and the reply was yes.

Unfortunately, I did not see any MILF, not even on daytime, apart from 1-2 proMILFs, at the age of 30-32.

The one was the tall red haired Romanian Laura I think her name, that I tried and she was quite good.

The ATMs at the airport give you about the same exchange as in the city and at Artemis, although I prefer Deutsche Bank which seems to give me the best rate. Nearest ATM options from where you are staying are at Artemis (the name does come up on your statement) , on K' dam near Olivierplatz or some where in Charlottenberg.

I tried changing cash at the ICC Messe once and could not. I change near Zoo Station on K'dam, prefer the one a block west of Beate Uhse Museum etc.

There is another one a block of south of Friederichstrasse Station, on the corner.

[QUOTE=Troyboy; 1138018]I just want to thank all who have made the effort to post reports. I especially want to thank Angus for his wonderful "Walk to Artemis from Westkrues" video. I stumbled on to it doing a Youtube search.

I will be flying into TXL Thursday afternoon and booked a room at AVUS (51 Halenseestrabe) for 39 Euros using.

[url]www.agoda.com[/url]

I plan to spend a long Thursday afternoon / evening at Artemis. I am visiting Germany (Europe) for the first time to visit my son studying in Greifswald. I will take a train up north the next day.

I travel extensively to Philippines, Thailand, Costa Rica and Colombia- but never been to Europe. I do have a couple of general questions:

1) I will be short of time in Berlin- where can I exchange US dollars for Euros? Are the airport ATMs or exchange booths ripoffs compared to elsewhere? (It seems that airports are often terrible places to change money- in some countries they are as good as anywhere)

2) Are there any experts here on the Greifswald area- anything going on up there?

Thanks! Troyboy[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dim Yann; 1138025]I just made a point, that it is better for a girl who doesn't make even one customer, to take 60-70-80 than nothing!

Thats common sense I think.

I don't understand your aggressive style.

Some people here speak as if they are spokesmen of the girls. [/QUOTE]I'll take a stab at this. I think that the guys who visit the clubs a lot do tend to feel a little protective of the atmosphere and even a little bit of the girls themselves We see some and hear about some of the stuff they deal with day by day and it ain't pretty.

So when someone comes on here suggesting they drop their prices at a slightest downturn of business we do tend to speak up. Hey nobody more than me would love to catch a break in the money department. But I also have to recognise that the girls do a difficult job and deserve to be fully compensated for it. If I am to receive a break it will be because I am a pleasant punter and a solid repeat customer. Not because the girl is having a difficult night.

AM

an interesting discussion on the cut and thrust of pricing and acceptance or not of the same from dim yann, angus, akibono, et al.

i also am not adverse to ensuring that i am receiving value for money, a different transaction sometimes than the lowest price for the same. while dim yann presents some valid arguments there are in life certainly in the service provider lives other undercurrents in place that can overrule simple economics that say among other things that lower prices can lead to more business and overall more income for a seller.

if i may list a few culled from observation in a number of sp environments, not just dl fkk`s.

- we are dealing with human beings in the sp world and human beings make decisions not only based upon economics short term and long term, but also pride,"face", and in interaction with other human beings, buyers and sellers.

- sp`s have made a decision to embark on this type of employement for a number of reasons. we are not always able to put ourselves fully into their thinking fully as we have differnt backgrounds and are not personally involved in tbeir reasons and decision making. for some of us, we do get for various reasons a much closer look at the pysche of the motivations and angst of some girls. there is interplay and levels of trust that occur between some pairings of cusotmer and girls often based upoon personalities and empathy as well as the financial aspect.

- girls will make decision based upon finance primarily, it is their job after all, but also on other factors as above. who they go with, how long is in the end decided mutually by the girl and the customer, even if the calculations are unspoken they are there.

- the jungle telegraph at a club works near the speed of light. good customers (who pay, are clean, and in some cases fuck well from a girl`s perspective) are clearly noted and the info passes around the club as quickly as the customers not meeting these criteria or a trouble makers. who does anyone wish to work with a pleasant person or a miserable nut case ? the girls see the broad spectrum at an fkk:

- believe it or not, most girls capaciity for earnings per day are somewhat limited. in economic terms, it can be better for a girl to turn down approaches for less money and concentrate on fewer at full tariff. a "fu*ed out" pussy can mean less earning the next day or so as it becomes very painful and therefore again, less economic income over a several day period for an uhmmm, excessive pay day on one night.

and finally, a comment on the wilds of club / fkk life and pricing. there is a great deal of competition both economic, personal and reputation between these working girls. add in the tribal nature of nationality groups, cliques of friends and other alliances, to say nothing of say 50 women in relatively close quaters for extended periods, you have the receipe for chaos and disaster lurking in an environment such as say, artemis.

the standard fee system is simply one to protect most customers and indeed the girls from chaos and economic pricing coompetition. generally it works. you know what you should expect to get, the girls ditto. always room for cheerful upselling and to decline the same as in any area of commerce. if it becomes annoying or the basic announced services are short changed or cut then this is very unacceptable.

along the same lines, many regulars in various clubs are very much against "tipping" in cash. it follows that this tends to upset the standard charge system and lead to expectations by the providers that they should receive extra cash for every session. human nature again.

rewarding meritorious service levels and sessions in the form of either extended time or another session later in the evening at standard pricing is actually the best approach froma customer`s point of view and economically for the girl. instead of € 10 or € 20 "tip", they get a good customer rapport building and a full session fee. in economic terms, it maximises long run returns to do so on both sides.

even in a pretty well club such as artemis the undercurrents for chaos are there ready to break out if customers and management are not wary all the time. personally, i have a very limited experience in visting artemis and enjoyed the environment very much when i did. enjoyed for the most part, the girls too.

as but one example, of the above. one of the known girls, a blond who commutes on a regular schedule from a large nrw city to work at artemis, is totally fluent in english and german, was discussing a number of aspects of club life at artemis with excess who is he believes a sympathetic customer, is clean, and (modestly) a good f*k. she is popular with customers and she commented that she is asked and talked about by some other girls along the lines of " how does she (l) get customers "so easily" sometimes as talking to them for only a couple of minutes and they go off to the zimmer"? she must be charging lower prices, going bare back etc.". i hasten to add that she did neither with excess or was asked to do so. in turn she has some contempt for girls who spend their time playing the machines, chatting amongst themselves incessantly and then complain that business is bad, custoemrs aren`t interested in sex, just chatting themselves, sleeping under the stairs, enjoying the pool and sauna area etc.

bottom line, dim yann, is they are women who are living in an unreal world. they make decisions according to themselves and the level of estrogen coursing through their veins at the moment. you can`t expect them to make an economic decision as rationally as you or me or for the same reasons.

posted pricing does have economic value. reduces chaos and woe betide girls who go against the "union" or management consistently. they won`t last and after all we might visit for one or two days every so often, they have to "live there" with the other girls, up to 12 hours or more a day nearly every day of the month.

a willing buyer and willing seller are usually able to sort things out with a "happy" ending.

fwiw.

e.

[quote=angus magee; 1138224]i'll take a stab at this. i think that the guys who visit the clubs a lot do tend to feel a little protective of the atmosphere and even a little bit of the girls themselves we see some and hear about some of the stuff they deal with day by day and it ain't pretty.

so when someone comes on here suggesting they drop their prices at a slightest downturn of business we do tend to speak up. hey nobody more than me would love to catch a break in the money department. but i also have to recognise that the girls do a difficult job and deserve to be fully compensated for it. if i am to receive a break it will be because i am a pleasant punter and a solid repeat customer. not because the girl is having a difficult night.

am[/quote]

[QUOTE=Excess; 1138253]A willing buyer and willing seller are usually able to sort things out with a "happy" ending.

FWIW.

E. [/QUOTE]An excellent analysis of the whole game and as far as I am concerned, the last word.

Thanks Excess for taking the time.

AM

[QUOTE=Excess; 1138253]A willing buyer and willing seller are usually able to sort things out with a "happy" ending.

FWIW.

E. [/QUOTE][font=tahoma]Superbly written piece of analysis by [b]Excess[/b] which I see has been deservedly added to the [b]ROD Thread[/b] by [b]Bearsk[/b].

Surely (as [b]Angus[/b] has said) the last word on this particular subject.

Many a newbie (or not so newbie) [b]ISG Member[/b] could do worse than read this piece of prose.

Well done to you [b]Excess[/b] :)

[b]CD[/b][/font]

[QUOTE=Troyboy;1138018]2) Are there any experts here on the Greifswald area- anything going on up there?[/QUOTE]Just try nightclub "Bar-Club Relax". Open daily from noon (weekend from 8 pm) till 5 am.

Phone: +49 3834 775144.

Adress: 17489 Greifswald, Pestalozzistraße 2.

No own website AFAIK. Please note: you can't compare it with any FKK all over Germany. Greifswald ist just a small town.

Various girls (mostly Hungarian, Russian und Polish girls) all over Greifswald in some flats, they change every week usually on Saturday / Sunday. More information:

[url]www.rotlicht-mv.de[/url]

(just select "Greifswald" as location). Prices vary, usually 50 euro / 30 minutes, BBBJ +20 euro.

Just back from a rather abbreviated trip to Artremis.

I had intended to spend all of Saturday and Sunday there but was called away on Saturday afternoon and left at 6pm.

Sad because I had a great time.

Julie. Huge breasted German girl. Limited service but happy to let me play with her enormously enhanced tits.

Laura. Dark haired Hungarian, beautiful and a good service. KWT, OWO and DATY followed by Laura on top. Made even better by the oral starting on the back sofa of downstairs kino, only for Marketa to walk in with a chap and promptly blew him on the sofa infront of us. It was nearly too much and so I dragged Laura off to a room.

Marketa. Caught up with her last. She was on good form, happy to talk and the usual excellent service. She noted that this was my third time that day, she was counting my excursions I observed. Marketa tells me that she keeps an eye on the guys she likes. I had left Marketa until later in the day because I know that my performance will not flag in her capable hands. She is a star. One of those girls that is always quite busy because is attractive, attentive, gives a good service and is honest. She manages her week to make sure that she doesn't get burnt out. Many ladies should take a lesson from her approach.

The day was turning into a fantastic experience and then I got a text that had me leaving Artemis prematurely and heading home.

Next time.

Hi All.

My first post on this forum after many months of reading with interest and picking up some really useful background and tips from the learned contributors, thank you all.

I have visited Artemis on 3 or 4 occasions now and will be heading back there tomorrow evening (Weds 30/03) for a long-overdue return visit. Can't wait!

Look forward to sharing my experiences with fellow Artemis lovers, will post an update summarising my philandering.

Cheers.

M

[QUOTE=Munter; 1139093]Hi All.

My first post on this forum after many months of reading with interest and picking up some really useful background and tips from the learned contributors, thank you all.

I have visited Artemis on 3 or 4 occasions now and will be heading back there tomorrow evening (Weds 30/03) for a long-overdue return visit. Can't wait!

Look forward to sharing my experiences with fellow Artemis lovers, will post an update summarising my philandering.

Cheers,

M[/QUOTE]I will also be there tomorrow. Feel free to seek me out and say Hello,. Look for the grey-haired old Brit with the pack of Camel Filters.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Bearsk;1137793]Customer volume. May be seasonal but I worry when some very solid performers complain about business.[/QUOTE]It's a marketplace. If there's a problem with getting business, I think it's up to the performers to figure out how to deal with it. I'm not suggesting like others that they drop their rates, but there is room to up their game, collectively speaking.

If I were in their position I would imagine consistency of quality is the key to repeat business. If customers have, say. 10 or 20% bad experiences, then even the best girls are going to lose 50% of their business based on numbers of people returning to the club. (To use my favourite restaurant analogy, imagine there were usually sumptuous servings but maggots in the soup for 10% of visits. It would affect business and people would talk about spoiled potential.) It's up to Artemis to consider the math and how to deal with it.

By the way I remember on days when there was a high guy to girl ratio, I might say to a girl,"Hey let's sit and chat for a bit," and she would say,"No, I'm only interested in sex." Now on a day when there is a high girl to guy ratio, I am not going to weep for the girls. I think it might make them relax a bit more and take more effort (enough to be civil) with the customers.

About the system of fixed prices, I agree that's a good one. Haggling would really be a vulgar experience for all participants. (At the same time people are entitled to get what they pay for.)

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1139224]I will also be there tomorrow. Feel free to seek me out and say Hello,. Look for the grey-haired old Brit with the pack of Camel Filters.[/QUOTE]Charlie is easy to spot. He is the one beating the girls off with a stick.


:)


AM

I am travelling to Berlin on 21st April and will be there for Good Friday (22nd) and the next two days. What are things like at the club over this time? Will it be very quiet? I have other things to do in Berlin as I am going to an Opera on 22nd (Wagner) and a concert on the evening of Saturday 23rd, so I'm not sure whether a trip to Artemis will be worth my while or not. Thanks for any advice!

Sacrilegious London Travel have you no shame

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1142254]I am travelling to Berlin on 21st April and will be there for Good Friday (22nd) and the next two days. What are things like at the club over this time? Will it be very quiet? I have other things to do in Berlin as I am going to an Opera on 22nd (Wagner) and a concert on the evening of Saturday 23rd, so I'm not sure whether a trip to Artemis will be worth my while or not. Thanks for any advice![/QUOTE]Easter has not much effect on the Artemis line up. No Messe happening so it will not be fully stocked but there should be the usual girls there. I think they may be planning some sort of bunny party though, with costumes so if you don't care for Dessous Day you may want to give this a miss.

BTW I did a quick and perhaps ill-considered visit there last night in the company of mater monger Iseeu. The first session I had the fortune of running into Nina (CZ). Beautiful girl who earns my highest praise imaginable. The second session with her friend, Laura (Hu) was a bit of a disappointment. Lovely girl but we just somehow did not click in the room.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1142299]mater monger[/QUOTE]Mother fucker? LOL.

Charlie123, Customx (first time I meet him, Great guy!) , Nebula and Kimino, all at Artemis today.

Place quite crowded, lots of italians, acting fine although very numerous. Wonder if tomorrow it's going to be even more crowded.

There was more than enough to have fun, at a certain point you had to wait a short while to get a free room, but that's ok.

Line up was fine. Looked all day to see if I could identify Nina but I think she wasn't there.

Only had stadard 60 euro sessions, quite proud of this, ahahah, but had great fun.

Helena, talked about here a lot. Mindy, same.

Laura, german, black long hair, beautiful face. Said she worked at Palace and Oase. She has been at A for a while now. Can't remember when but we both are sure we already sessioned. Sweet girl, will definitely repeat.

More tomorrow!

Place was kind of crowded and noisy yesterday. Obviously the people that come in in groups have all the right to have fun and it's normal that things might get noisy, especially for us latins, although I noticed a couple of english guys really making noise last night.

It's fine as long as people don't exagerate, still I prefer it when it's calm and more quiet.

Anyways. Very happily repeated with Laura, definitely in my favourites now.

I then went with Clara+Katy, I like both the girls but it didn't really work out.

I think they did their best, but all the moaning and crap was distracting me to the point where I decided to keep just Clara with which I wasn't able to finish anyways.

Still I think threesome is more of fantasy than real thing for me. Maybe if I get the rignt girls, but right now it's a waste of money for me.

I'll hang around in the sun and go to A later on, flying away tomorrow early morning.

Sundays should be much more relaxing.

Ciao!

Having recently been to oase and samya and had an overall excellent time, I am now considering the next trip from england. Having visited artemis in summer 2008, and its ease of access for someone relying on public transport, and overall club quality, its seems to be no 1. On my list now. Due to financial and other commitments August is the only time I could make this trip. I would like to know from someone if I would be at a major disadvantage visiting in August.

As girls would be on holiday etc meaning the club would be too quiet? Or is this not too much too worry about and there will in fact be a good number of girls in artemis during August, and the club lively enough etc.

Please find my oase and samya reports, as I came under criticism for not reporting enough, and please be assured.

That this is not the beginning of a list of long questions, more a genuine attempt to gain information which will be vital.

In planning my next trip. Thanks mohab

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1143787]Having recently been to oase and samya and had an overall excellent time, I am now considering the next trip from england. Having visited artemis in summer 2008, and its ease of access for someone relying on public transport, and overall club quality, its seems to be no 1. On my list now. Due to financial and other commitments August is the only time I could make this trip. I would like to know from someone if I would be at a major disadvantage visiting in August.

As girls would be on holiday etc meaning the club would be too quiet? Or is this not too much too worry about and there will in fact be a good number of girls in artemis during August, and the club lively enough etc.

Please find my oase and samya reports, as I came under criticism for not reporting enough, and please be assured.

That this is not the beginning of a list of long questions, more a genuine attempt to gain information which will be vital.

In planning my next trip. Thanks mohab[/QUOTE]Ciao Mohab, I posed this exact question at a couple of girls in the past days and both of them told me Artemis is really dead in the summer and that they would not be there.

Take it for what it's worth, no direct experience on my side.

Best!

I think it depends what you want.

I was there a couple of times last Summer, June and August. The number of girls is down but so are the number of men. The pace is a little slower. This is OK for me since I am in no rush and like the Wellness side of things. Most of my favorite girls were there.

I would be more inclined to go in the Summer if the outdoor pool is finished.

Berlin itself in the Summer is a little humid but has much to offer.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1143911]Ciao Mohab, I posed this exact question at a couple of girls in the past days and both of them told me Artemis is really dead in the summer and that they would not be there.

Take it for what it's worth, no direct experience on my side.

Best! [/QUOTE]

I was there July 2010 and it was good. I expect the same the coming summer too. Might be a little colder weather though. Why not sat 16 April?

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1143787]I would like to know from someone if I would be at a major disadvantage visiting in August.

As girls would be on holiday etc meaning the club would be too quiet? Or is this not too much too worry about and there will in fact be a good number of girls in artemis during August, and the club lively enough etc.

In planning my next trip. Thanks mohab[/QUOTE]Hi. Issue a bit more complicated. It depends a lot on when Berlin holidays end. This year, schools open 15 Aug, and a fair bit of families will be back the week before. You can imagine the stored up male libidos, having been with family on holidays for weeks and weeks, even with somewhat depleted budgets. The A Team holidays are whenever they want and some girls will knock off much of August. However, other new girls will drift in to check out the scene so it's a bit of a wash. I know for a fact that it is unlikely the new construction wing will be ready before Aug. From mid-Aug forward, things should be pretty much back to normal. It is a little quieter in summer, and Bearsk is surely right that this is not such a bad thing, but as of early-mid Aug, there will be more than enough talent around. Good luck.

August has been my favorite time of the year to visit. The crowds are way down for one. While it is true that a number of girls take vacation I have never found the line up to be lacking in any serious way. The girls that are there have are much more relaxed and willing to sit and chat & tease a bit before heading to the room. I guess this is more of a regular's perspective but I have to call it as I see it. In the end I would rather be blown Augustly than blown away (by the stunners).

And as RB notes there are sometimes other factors in play. One of the best days I ever had at Artemis was a couple of years back in late August. There was a track and field event on at the Olympic Stadium and all the girls thought it would be crazy busy. I guess track and field enthusiasts are not mongers because non of the crowds appeared. So there was a full line up and not that many customers. For some reason the girls were relaxed about it and the sessions were off the charts. So you never know.


AM

another day, another search for the perfect woman. a number of close misses. although the best girls don't come on a monday, and although there were more guys than girls this time, i felt that i got a lot of naked attention and some of it was quite sumptuous.

firstly emma, a dark turkish temptress, joined me on the sofa and tenderly explained how she loved to kiss and make love and get repeat business. it was early in the evening, so i demurred and said i was seeking only ella. (to me ella is a bit like the eiffel tower. everybody has to experience her once in a lifetime whether they want to or not.)"ella!" she said."i'm her friend and i can tell you with 100% certainty that ella isn't coming tonight! i'll give you 500 euros if you see ella here tonight." i said in that case i'd better keep my eyes peeled. as emma began to test the little hairs on my balls, my brain started to go crazy and i pulled myself away with a last-ditch wrench of willpower.

later there was a beautiful girl with rosy cheeks (her name temporarily escapes me) from eastern europe who said it was her first day at artemis. (i don't know about that, maybe it's ella's first day there too.) she had spent a year as an escort in london. she seemed nice but i started to worry that she maybe had picked up some bad attitudes in london. maybe i am just prejudiced. i have never tried the london scene. but i once saw two minutes of belle de jour and turned it off pretty quickly.

in the same way i have turned away a girl who told me she had just come from working in nevada. i just find it too heartbreaking when the innocence of a prostitute is finally taken away from her.

i had a drink with another good bet: cherie, a delicious hamburger. i offered her vodka but her doctor has forbidden her from drinking anything but champagne and water so she had water. i truly think cherie was the most gorgeous, educated package of a woman there tonight, and our conversation was heating up to a wonderfully humid conclusion, when i happened to ask if she was, like me, a hopeless romantic. to this she replied,"i don't like kissing that much. it involves emotion and this is just a job for me after all."

i appreciated her honesty. i would buy a second-hand car from her any time. just on this occasion i didn't feel like a test drive.

but i felt i was getting closer and closer to my ideal girl! i had some dinner to get my strength up.

before the glorious finale of my night, i had one embarrassing moment where i completely failed to recognize a girl i'd screwed only two weeks previously (morena). in my defense she really wasn't that memorable a bed companion anyway.

at last the stars fell into harmony. i bumped into a tan-skinned black-haired girl with a firm, slim body. i'd had my eye on her earlier, well, one part of her. i should have guessed she was from rio. i'm a great admirer of brazilian girls. it is a point of pride with them to bring the maximum possible emotion to every erotic encounter they have. i think this gives them an edge over european girls in the same way beethoven had an edge over steibelt (an excellent and calculating craftsman whose name has unaccountably disappeared from history).

the girl's name was luciana. my portuguese stood me in good stead. i followed her to a room and we started kissing. after an evening of constant titillation, i could hardly hold back, but i kissed her whole body and then her pudenda. i teased the dripping entry with a finger. she was breathing deeply and telling me how, being a brazilian, she was addicted to anal sex. she turned around and started waving her small, firm, and perfectly formed bottom around in front of my face and begging me to give it a try. all i did was give it a deep licking. then it was onto 69. i wanted to explode in her willing mouth but again forced myself to resist and told her i wanted to save it for what she called her buceta (a horribly vulgar word actually). so after that i just drilled her in as many positions as i possibly could before the swollen genital pressure overcame me. a difficult job because the brazilian pussy has more newtons per square centimeter than any other model, but somebody's got to go in there.

after some more conversation we went out and she accepted my 60 euros with a happy kiss. i'm afraid i was grinning too much on the subway home, as i got some frowns from phlegmatic german middle-aged types. basically luciana was my dream girl, and i would give everything to her, and stay with her for the rest of my life, today if not tomorrow.

Thanks for all to my August query, it does make interesting reading. Of course it makes sense that an individual would have no more or less luck in August than any other time of the year. The FKK saga unfolds!

Mohab

[QUOTE=The Limey;1144116]The girl's name was Luciana... After an evening of constant titillation, I could hardly hold back, but I kissed her whole body and then her pudenda. I teased the dripping entry with a finger. She was breathing deeply and telling me how, being a Brazilian, she was addicted to anal sex. She turned around and started waving her small, firm, and perfectly formed bottom around in front of my face and begging me to give it a try. All I did was give it a deep licking. Then it was onto 69. I wanted to explode in her willing mouth but again forced myself to resist and told her I wanted to save it for what she called her buceta (a horribly vulgar word actually). So after that I just drilled her in as many positions as I possibly could before the swollen genital pressure overcame me. A difficult job because the Brazilian pussy has more newtons per square centimeter than any other model, but somebody's got to go in there.[/QUOTE]Actually, it may just be Thomas Hardy writing for Penthouse.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1144116]. I felt that I got a lot of naked attention and some of it was quite sumptuous.

I have never tried the London scene. But I once saw two minutes of Belle de Jour and turned it off pretty quickly.

I just find it too heartbreaking when the innocence of a prostitute is finally taken away from her. [/QUOTE]I posted back in Feb that I don't think the Forum's purpose is served by using it as a diary. Maybe Jackson should create a separate thread for wannabee auteurs. Entries like the above might go there, (if the Museum for Non Sequiturs is closed during posting hours). Letters to Penthouse indeed. Send them there.

Let's try to keep it brief and informative: entries should focus on what others might find useful, vs personal musings and states of mind.

Anyone else want to weigh in on this, or am I just beating a solo drum?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1144256]Anyone else want to weigh in on this, or am I just beating a solo drum?[/QUOTE]One can always start a blog for one's more incoherent ramblings and flights of fancy.

;)

One can also make use of the ignore feature here on this forum.


Luciana has the somewhat dubious distinction of being Angus' first ever Artemis fuck. For me she was unremarkable except for the fact that she was first. This was some 2.5 years back so maybe she has sharpened her skills?

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1144256]I posted back in Feb that I don't think the Forum's purpose is served by using it as a diary. Maybe Jackson should create a separate thread for wannabee auteurs. Entries like the above might go there, (if the Museum for Non Sequiturs is closed during posting hours). Letters to Penthouse indeed. Send them there.[/QUOTE]And I would suggest that the Forum's purpose is not served by using posts to direct random vitriol at other members. If it makes you seethe to read happy reports from others, then by all means use the ignore feature. Just don't try to beat people down and discourage them from reporting their sincerely felt experiences.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1144256]I posted back in Feb that I don't think the Forum's purpose is served by using it as a diary. Maybe Jackson should create a separate thread for wannabee auteurs. Entries like the above might go there, (if the Museum for Non Sequiturs is closed during posting hours). Letters to Penthouse indeed. Send them there.

Let's try to keep it brief and informative: entries should focus on what others might find useful, vs personal musings and states of mind.

Anyone else want to weigh in on this, or am I just beating a solo drum? [/QUOTE]I like the chatting side of this thread (although I know it's not a chat) , and I wouldn't like it very much if all the reports where strictly on a personal evaluation of the girls. My and your vote on the same girl might differ a lot.

I think there should be some balance, like in everithing. For example, I don't like extended, vulgar or autocelebrating descriptions on ones sessions, but I can understand that some are interested in a few more details than others.

Even a short report, possibly by someone known, just saying he visitd the club, the lineup was such and such, and all was "normal" can be useful.

I personally start asking myself if there's any use in filing a report when I visit Artemis, I probably should do it only if I try a new girl (and if I remeber her name) or if something "new" happens.

That's how I see it.

Ciao.

I personally think that it all contributes to the pulse of the forum.

I understand RBs point but the forum serves to inform on different levels. We all want to get an optimal experience.

The thread also has a life of its own, fueled by regular postings, almost independent of content.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1144317]I like the chatting side of this thread (although I know it's not a chat) , and I wouldn't like it very much if all the reports where strictly on a personal evaluation of the girls. My and your vote on the same girl might differ a lot.

I think there should be some balance, like in everithing. For example, I don't like extended, vulgar or autocelebrating descriptions on ones sessions, but I can understand that some are interested in a few more details than others.

Even a short report, possibly by someone known, just saying he visitd the club, the lineup was such and such, and all was "normal" can be useful.

I personally start asking myself if there's any use in filing a report when I visit Artemis, I probably should do it only if I try a new girl (and if I remeber her name) or if something "new" happens.

That's how I see it.

Ciao. [/QUOTE]

[font=tahoma]Well done [b]The Limey[/b] for a nice report (have added to the [b]RoD Thread[/b]). I suggest that if it suits the occasion and if it can fit in the report, perhaps include some hard facts to establish the reality of your FKK / Sauna visit and then launch into the prose! Not a criticism, more a comment. Enjoyed your piece. Keep up the good work!

[b]CD[/b][/font]

Thanks for your report, which I personally enjoyed. Musing, switchback, and allowing yourself to follow your train of thought. I like that. Different. Everyone has their own style, and yours is interesting. Stick with it.

[QUOTE=The Limey;1144302]And I would suggest that the Forum's purpose is not served by using posts to direct random vitriol at other members. If it makes you seethe to read happy reports from others, then by all means use the ignore feature. Just don't try to beat people down and discourage them from reporting their sincerely felt experiences.[/QUOTE]Sorry if I hurt your feelings and it was certainly not my intention to beat you down. But just to set the record straight. This is not random vitriol; it is a directed comment. If you write in public, then it's fair game. And I am not seething. I just think all this personal wistful misty stuff is indeed wide of the forum's purpose. But I also do not think I am alone in this. You are often really writing for you, not for us. E. G. That bit about "the sadness you feel about a prostitute losing her innocence". That's happy, informative stuff? I'm not at all against vigorous, well-crafted, colorful writing. Just the opposite. But if others enjoy all this, well who I am to say. Guess there are many Toulouse-Lautrec's out there. I am done.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1144256]Anyone else want to weigh in on this, or am I just beating a solo drum?[/QUOTE]

I will. In a nutshell, I like reading, writing, and living interesting stories and The Limey's report certainly qualifies. If you are more interested in seeing a checklist of what a girl will/won't do, they I'd suggest some of the local German/French/Dutch forums where reports in this format are more common.

In fact, I'd argue with some stipulations that stories are actually in some ways than mere reports. Storytellers give you their state of mind, certain signs, checkpoints, and responses that they look for in the girl, what they did/said in and outside of the room to bring himself and the girl to where they were. Thus, I have a greater understanding of what that chemistry is and how to replicate it.

The stipulation is of course that I look for certain things during sex and a good story should mention/include this as appropriate.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1144273]Luciana has the somewhat dubious distinction of being Angus' first ever Artemis fuck. For me she was unremarkable except for the fact that she was first. This was some 2. 5 years back so maybe she has sharpened her skills?

AM[/QUOTE]We were all virgins once.

She may have benefited from BJ school with teacher AM.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0]Anyone else want to weigh in on this, or am I just beating a solo drum?[/QUOTE]You asking for help beating your solo drum. Now that's kinky, kind of cute as well, IMHO.

Hello, everyone.

I am planning to be in Berlin this Friday and Saturday (April 15th / 16th). And this will definately include visits to Artemis.

Does anyone have an idea about how the lineup will be? Will there be plenty of choice between hotties or will the upcoming easter have reduced the numbers?

[QUOTE=Frej Of Asgaard; 1144805]Hello, everyone.

I am planning to be in Berlin this Friday and Saturday (April 15th / 16th). And this will definately include visits to Artemis.

Does anyone have an idea about how the lineup will be? Will there be plenty of choice between hotties or will the upcoming easter have reduced the numbers? [/QUOTE]Read the forum. This very question was answered abouta week back.

AM

Just had my first visit to Artemis and had a great time. Having just done 3 Fkks in Frankfurt though I liked them better, mostly because they're slightly cheaper (65 vs. 80 euro entrance; 50 vs. 60 euro for 30 minutes) and the facilities at Oase were a notch above Artemis.

First visit, Thursday.

After spending the last 4 days sexless in Prague I was eager to get my rocks off, so when I arrived in Berlin by train late afternoon I checked into my Hotel (Concorde Hotel am Studio, I chose it for its price and close proximity to Artemis) and took the S Bahn to the closest station to Artemis, Westkreuz, which was only one stop away. If you're new to the area like I was, exit the station to the north, walk thru the parking lot and over the bridge west, and then just follow the street south—Artemis will be the giant white building on your left which you can't possibly miss. I arrived at around 4:30 pm, paid the 80 euro admission, changed into a robe and started the hunt.

Artemis has 4 floors: the lowest has the wellness area with sauna and a pool, but, sadly, no Jacuzzi—a small cinema, and a small bar that hardly anyone used; the 2nd and main floor has the men's locker room and showers and the main bar area, and is where you first enter; the 3rd is all private rooms and off limits unless you're escorted by a girl; and the 4th is apparently some kind of VIP room. Other than a trickle of girls that would periodically check the theater and wellness area the lowest floor has hardly any traffic—good if you want some alone time, but bad if you want to check out girls outside the darkened bar area. When I arrived I guess there was around 40 to 50 girls present, though I noticed some fresh faces started to appear after 6:00 and the place reached its peak of activity by 7:30, with about 70 girls and half as many men, not a bad ratio. By 9:00 the ratio was even more lopsided with about 4 girls for every 1 man I saw in the bar.

Having scoped out the area I decided on my first session for the night, a Thai spinner with fake B cups named Inca who spoke OK English. After some kissing and a BBJ she slipped on a condom and rode me cowgirl style, then switched to missionary. She was so petite though that I couldn't get a comfortable angle, so instead had her finish me off with another BBJ and HJ. She expressed surprise at how much I came; after 4 days of no sex I had stored up quite a bit. We cleaned up and parted ways. Total cost: 60 Euros.

I headed back to the bar to relax a bit and was approached by a Romanian, Nerise. Having just sessioned I wasn't sure I wanted to go again already, but talking to Nerise, and fondling her real B cup sized breasts, I began to feel a stirring below and took her to a room. DFK, followed by BBJ, than cowgirl and missionary, than a BBJCIM finish for 110 Euros.

Having had two 30 minute sessions in an hour I decided I needed to pace myself. I spotted this pretty endowed black girl and followed her to the wellness area and made my introductions there. Her name sounded like Sasha, she was from the Dominican Republic, and using a mixture of Spanish and English we had a friendly chat while I admired her body. She was slightly thicker than I would have liked, but she had all natural C cups and a beautiful smile, and when she suggested we go to the downstairs cinema I agreed. I started to fondle and kiss her breasts, and she reciprocated, though she seemed hesitant to kiss near the lips. She pulled out my cock and started sucking it before stopping after a minute and asking to go to a quieter room. I agreed. Inside she continued the BBJ. I offered to do DATY but she refused, saying she doesn't like being kissed down there. Oh well. On goes the cover, cowgirl followed by missionary. Seeing her bouncing tits inspired me and I asked to let me fuck them, she happily agreed. She put some oil in between them and lay back while I sat astride her and slid my cock in between her breasts, enjoying the view from above. After several minutes of this I asked her to finish me off with a BBJ, and I joyously erupted in her mouth. Another 110 Euros spent, but well worth it.

The next couple hours I sat on a couch facing the bar admiring the women's figures as they walked to and fro. I kept being approached for sessions but I wasn't sure if I could come again so I declined them all. By 9:00 I was debating whether I should just go back to the hotel when I saw this one brunette walking about with blue leg warmers. Something about her intrigued me, so I followed her to the wellness area and made introductions. Her name was Shaz, she's 21 and from Romania, with a nice body and natural B cups. She also spoke decent English, and unlike the other girls she seemed willing to talk instead of just immediately rushing to a room, so I spent some time chatting with her on the lounge chair. She was patient and friendly, and after awhile I started to feel a stir again and asked her to a room. Inside was a real GFE, Shaz knew I was going to need some time so took things slowly, first with DFK, a slow BBJ, then slipped on a cover and began riding me. We switched between a number of positions before I asked her to finish be off with another BBJ. 60 Euros total, a bargain and the perfect end cap to the night.

After many visits to Palace and Oase I had my maiden voyage to Artemis last Friday night. Loved it, with a couple of caveats.

Stayed at the Ibis Messe Nord (thanks Angus for all your logistical information). Could easily walk from there to Artemis and back through a well lit tunnel under the ICC section of the Messe. Good Argentinian restaurant next to Ibis.

Arrived about 17:00 and stayed until just after midnight. First impression of Artemis was that it seemed smaller than I had expected and smaller than Palace. This is a deception, however, because of the multiple floors at Artemis. The talent lineup was comparable, with a slight edge to Artemis (perhaps because it was Friday versus my Wednesday visit to Palace later that week). But all in all a very classy place with a very classy group of folks.

Had done my research and was on the lookout for Ella and Jenna. While surveying the layout I spotted somebody whom I was sure was Ella in the downstairs pool area. My mongering experience has taught me that when you see somebody you like, grab her when you can, may not get another chance. I didn't let on, of course, that I knew her reputation, and let her approach me with her "I am Russian, dahlink" routine and a big smile. Agreed to go to the back row of the kino to get better acquainted. Started with a very nice, sloppy BJ with plenty of eye contact. She has been around a bit, but I didn't think of her at all as old, just experienced and the experience showed. Followed with doggie and mish and then I asked if she would lile a facial finish."Of course, dahlink" she said, with a reminder that this would be an extra 50 Euro. Took it like a champ, being careful not to get it in her eyes or hair. But provided a full view as it drobbled down her chin adn then broke into a wide smile before wiping. Well worth the 110 price tag and would definitely repeat.

Met up with Kimino who introduced me to Charlie123. Great guys. Went out for dinner at a Turkish restaurant and traded stories about the hobby, ISG and life in general. Bakc to Artemis which had become much more crowded by then (maybe 21:00) and much more smokey in the upstairs lounge. This really bothered my sinuses and I had to retreat to the downstairs non smoking area from time to time to resurrect myself. Unfortunately most of the girls were upstairs. Also found that there was a problem because Artemis is so cut up into sections and rooms. Lots of guys on the stairs for some reason. There would be a real traffic jam whenever some big bloke decided to chat up a girl or two in the doorwayor on the stairwell.

Was on the lookout for Jenna. Spotted her a few times. Nice bolt-ons, soft, curvey figure, million- dollar smile. But she was up and down those stairs faster than a nuclear powered yo-yo. She must have taken a quarter mile of dick that night alone. Always came back smiling, but I never had a chance to add my few inches to the line.

BTW, my impression was that in general the Artemis girls are less aggressive than those at Palace. Next Wednesday at Palace I wasn't there for more than half an hour when three ladies had reached under the towel to fondle the jewels. I enjoy this kind of flirting / salesmanship and have never had trouble fending off sharks. In the whole time at Artemis this never happened except when I went to the kino.

So, after after watching the magnificent parade for a while in the upstairs lounge, headed back down for some fresh air and sat down in the front row of the kino. Fended off two ladies but relented when approached by Sabina, a tall, dark haired gal with fake DDs and a bit of an overbite. Said she was from Uruguay and had been there only a few days. Never boinked an Uruguaian before, so took the chance. She was great in the kino, nice BJ with plenty of eye contact. But then went to the rooms nearby and she wanted extra for kissing, deep throat and just about everything else. I declined and banged her doggie until the end. Another 60 Euro to add Uruguay to the map.

Back upstairs things had gotten even more crowded and smokey. Also the music was much louder than at Palace so found it hard to hear the conversation with my ISG buddies.

After a while back down and ran into Monique, with shoulder length blonde hair, and braces on her teeth, from Poland. We chatted a bit and headed for the downstairs kino, which was packed like a barrel of wriggling, freshly caught sardines. Every time the cry "zimmer frei" would ring out there would be a scramble to the room and a rearrangement of the sardines. After a few minutes I suggested we take a rain check and Monique cheerfully agreed. I like this versus the ladies who want to hang on for dear life as soon as they hook a live one.

Sure enough about 45 minutes later I was upstairs and Monique comes sashaying along. We found an open couch in the upstairs kino (sheltered a bit from the smoke) and she delivered a first rate service. Started with wet BJ with plenty of eye contact, cowgirl and doggie. Then she gently asked if I would lke to CIM reminding me it would be extra. I said sure and she proceded with a great, soft but vigorous BJ ending up with a CIM. SAhe straightened up, looked me in the eye and cheerfully swallowed, then smiling and licking her lips. Must hav ebeen a good sight for the guys in the back of the kino. I know I certainly enjoyed it. Paid the 110 Euro and was happy to do it. Would definitely repeat.

Was jet lagged and having trouble with the smoke so called it a night. Couple of days later off to Dusseldorf to sample the NRW partytreff scene and on to Palace on Wednesday. Will file reports in the appropriate sections.

[QUOTE=Customx;1145334]Had done my research and was on the lookout for Ella and Jenna. While surveying the layout I spotted somebody whom I was sure was Ella in the downstairs pool area. My mongering experience has taught me that when you see somebody you like, grab her when you can, may not get another chance. I didn't let on, of course, that I knew her reputation, and let her approach me with her "I am Russian, dahlink" routine and a big smile. Agreed to go to the back row of the kino to get better acquainted. Started with a very nice, sloppy BJ with plenty of eye contact. She has been around a bit, but I didn't think of her at all as old, just experienced and the experience showed. Followed with doggie and mish and then I asked if she would lile a facial finish."Of course, dahlink" she said, with a reminder that this would be an extra 50 Euro. Took it like a champ, being careful not to get it in her eyes or hair. But provided a full view as it drobbled down her chin adn then broke into a wide smile before wiping. Well worth the 110 price tag and would definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]Good report Customx, Thanks and I wish I could have been there.

Ella is a great ride as you found out first hand. Funnily enough she is one lady with whom I would actually discuss her reports. She knows about the forum and her reputation here and has no problem with it. I think she has been around long enough to know that it works in her favor.

AM

[QUOTE=Customx;1145334]... Sabina, a tall, dark haired gal with fake DDs and a bit of an overbite. Said she was from Uruguay and had been there only a few days. Never boinked an Uruguaian before, so took the chance. She was great in the kino, nice BJ with plenty of eye contact. But then went to the rooms nearby and she wanted extra for kissing, deep throat and just about everything else. I declined and banged her doggie until the end. Another 60 Euro to add Uruguay to the map.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had a good time.

Sabina needs to go back to orientation. There are defined extras, other things she either does or does not. No propina!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1144983]Read the forum. This very question was answered abouta week back.

AM[/QUOTE]Sorry Angus. It was not my intention to annoy you.

The earlier question which was answered about a week ago concerned the lineup on Good Friday and the following Saturday. I was asking about the lineup one weekend earlier than that.

The thing is. I was at Artemis on Good Friday and the following Saturday last year, and I was quite disappointed about the lineup. Place was almost dead. So that was why I was worried. Alhough Connie was there last year, which compensated somewhat for the lacking lineup.

Anyway. I was at artemis this evening, and I was absolutely satisfied about the lineup. Lots of hotties. I will definately be there tomorrow as well. I will try to get the time to write some reports as well.

[QUOTE=Frej Of Asgaard;1145551]Sorry Angus. It was not my intention to annoy you.[/QUOTE]And I did not mean to be so short with your question. It is just that so many guys seem to ask questions without having read the forum. I guess I misunderstood the days you meant.

But in general I find the line up at Artemis always pretty good. It is just some of the real stunners that are absent on such holidays. I find that these stunners, while visually all that, are rarely the best sessions. So holidays can be some of the better times at a club like Artemis. This however is from the perspective of someone who lives near by. A visitor may want a bit more thrill for their time at this club.

Glad yo enjoyed yourself.

AM

Every girl at Artemis should watch this video:

[url]http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to-get-a-guy-to-notice-you-while-youre-having,19984/[/url]

(ignore the 10 second ad at the start)

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1145737]Every girl at Artemis should watch this video:

[url]http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to-get-a-guy-to-notice-you-while-youre-having,19984/[/url]

(ignore the 10 second ad at the start)[/QUOTE]Hey I like the part where she makes cookies and you can put your cream on the cookies.

[QUOTE=The Limey; 1145737]Every girl at Artemis should watch this video:

[url]http://www.theonion.com/video/how-to-get-a-guy-to-notice-you-while-youre-having,19984/[/url]

(ignore the 10 second ad at the start) [/QUOTE]"stand out from the crowd". Ahaha awesome!

Thanks for sharing

First of all I must thank all of you for a terrific forum. I followed carefully every single thread in almost 2 1/2 years which has helped me enormously during my visits at Artemis. I was there the first time in December 2009 an entire weekend and I was there in December 2010 also. I will be at Artemis certainly 29 and 30 April, but perhaps also May 1 So if any of the known will be there so it would be super nice to meet and exchange some pleasant experiences. I will write soon about my adventures there, but unfortunately you have little patience with my writings.

First of all I must thank all of you for a terrific forum. I followed carefully every single thread in almost 2 1/2 years which has helped me enormously during my visits at Artemis. I was there the first time in December 2009 an entire weekend and I was there in December 2010 also. I will be at Artemis certainly 29 and 30 April, but perhaps also May 1 So if any of the known will be there so it would be super nice to meet and exchange some pleasant experiences. I will write soon about my adventures there, but unfortunately you have little patience with my writings.

My memory is hazy, but can somebody confirm the name of the girl named Blaya? Blaiya? Blairya? Something like that?

She platinum straight haired blond, German, tan skin, small be borderline A cup, has a tattoo that wraps around her side, and is always hanging out with this other blonde girl bright blonde haired girl at the bar?

[QUOTE=SoItBegins; 1146345]My memory is hazy, but can somebody confirm the name of the girl named Blaya? Blaiya? Blairya? Something like that?

She platinum straight haired blond, German, tan skin, small be borderline A cup, has a tattoo that wraps around her side, and is always hanging out with this other blonde girl bright blonde haired girl at the bar? [/QUOTE]I understood it to be "Beah" or "Bea". Like "Leah" but with a "B".

I had a session with her this Friday.

Her name is Blair.

The other blonde girl is Rachel.

[QUOTE=Suppenhuhn; 1146489]Her name is Blair.

The other blonde girl is Rachel. [/QUOTE]I took both of them in August last year for a threesome. Beautiful girls. Because I had several sessions earlier that day, I only had the energy for a blowjob.

[QUOTE=Tommyh80;1146737]I took both of them in August last year for a threesome. Beautiful girls. Because I had several sessions earlier that day, I only had the energy for a blowjob.[/QUOTE]I believe to know these blond girls. Both about same high and they usually occupie barchairs just in front of upper-bar. Very visible place! Last week I had look of them to save these beauties for the last act, but drained my energy before that. That is pity.

I had some unknown brunette from Slovenia perhaps for the starters. Quite soon dark slim a-tittie Fatima made me very satisfied. Oh those kisses were so good. Then later after some food my third bang with long dark haired Leni. For the last fake blond fake titties Iris (?) and I was out of juice. Completely. That Iris was damn hot and made me really sweat while pounding his pussy.

Fine evening. Quality girls. Excellent place to spend some time.

I was there also Saturday. Good lineup. Met natalie from ukraine, a colombian and a german lady which were all worth their money. I like artemis a lot and return every once in a while. My next couple of trips will be to mainland spain, however.

Good hunt guys!

I feel we may have met without realising. My first ever fkk visit was artemis in summer 2008 July / August. I recall meeting a scottish gentleman, who was bemused by the fact I was a brummie ie from birmingham. We then continued to the podium to dance with the girls into the early hours. I am egyptian of looks with a birmingham accent. Was this in fact you? I am intrigued.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mohab; 1147271]I feel we may have met without realising. My first ever fkk visit was artemis in summer 2008 July / August. I recall meeting a scottish gentleman, who was bemused by the fact I was a brummie ie from birmingham. We then continued to the podium to dance with the girls into the early hours. I am egyptian of looks with a birmingham accent. Was this in fact you? I am intrigued.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi,

I fear not Mohab. At the risk of outing myself, the Scots persona is only a mantel I wear. I am in fact Canadian / British, that is Canadian citizen born in the UK. The history of Angus Magee (the persona) I will gldly share but in person, not on the open forum.

Dancing with the lassies-those who know me would crack a smile at this.

AM

Hi,

On Tuesday the club laid on a party with a 'Bunny-Girl' theme. They had a Wheel of Fortune in the lobby with the possibility of winning free drinks or entries and some party decorations in the lounge. The girls all dressed up in bunny costumes, and very sweet they all looked too. Regrettably, their efforts went unrewarded as the level of male guests was lower than even the normal Tuesday traffic and not much business was done. A shame for the girls as they had all spent time and money kitting themselves out in Playboy-style outfits but the punters didn't turn up.

For my part, I had a super-hot session with Ella and a cosy hour with Moldavian blonde Lavina. She is quite tall, shoulder length blonde hair, medium tits, pretty face and speaks good English and Deutsch in a husky sexy accent. She is a really nice girl, passionate kisser, and sexy knowledgeable pro who delivers the goods with an easy charm. Recommended.

Charlie

Hi.

2 splendid hours yesterday with relative newcomer from Columbia by the name of Helen. 23 years old, slim, tall figure with appreciable curves, gorgeous face, lovely smile, perfect teeth, visually perfect; altogether she is a breathtakingly beautiful example of a hot South American girl. Probably the most naturally beautiful girl I have ever encountered at Artemis.

Plays the vamp in the lounge, but is actually terribly sweet in the room. Very skilled, slightly withdrawn and distant at first, but with careful and sensitive handling she can be prised open to delicious effect. All services available.

She says that she will only be around for a few more days, but is looking to return in early May. Availability is, therefore, limited. So get it while you can. This one comes with Charlie's 5-star recommendation!

Enjoy,

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1147451]Hi.

2 splendid hours yesterday with relative newcomer from Columbia by the name of Helen. 23 years old, slim, tall figure with appreciable curves, gorgeous face, lovely smile, perfect teeth, visually perfect; altogether she is a breathtakingly beautiful example of a hot South American girl. Probably the most naturally beautiful girl I have ever encountered at Artemis.

Plays the vamp in the lounge, but is actually terribly sweet in the room. Very skilled, slightly withdrawn and distant at first, but with careful and sensitive handling she can be prised open to delicious effect. All services available.

She says that she will only be around for a few more days, but is looking to return in early May. Availability is, therefore, limited. So get it while you can. This one comes with Charlie's 5-star recommendation!

Enjoy,

Charlie[/QUOTE]Very, very, interesting. I'l be there 10/11 may ahahaha.

Length&color of hair? Guess dark.

Color of eyes? Guess dark but hope not.

Other details to identify her, if any?

Yeah, ok, I'll just ask you to point her out to me.

Best!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1147556]Very, very, interesting. I'l be there 10/11 may ahahaha.

Length&color of hair? Guess dark.

Color of eyes? Guess dark but hope not.

Other details to identify her, if any?

Yeah, ok, I'll just ask you to point her out to me.

Best![/QUOTE]Brown hair, longer than medium length, streaked with blond highlights and arranged in tight ringlets.

Colour of eyes?. Are you serious? . Not something I notice in a girl. I couldn't tell you the colour of eyes of any girl in Artemis, could you? Let's test you out. What colour are Clara's eyes?

No tattoos at all, light tan coloured skin, large breasts, slim, quite tall. I fully expect her to be sauntering around in an 'I love Charlie' t-shirt in future, so she should be easy to spot.

You'll find her easily enough if you watch out for the drop-dead gorgeous Latina (unless I find her first, in which case she'll be gone for the evening)

Best.

C

It sounds really good, just hope that she is there next weekend. Your tips is always really good to follow.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1147451]Hi.

2 splendid hours yesterday with relative newcomer from Columbia by the name of Helen. 23 years old, slim, tall figure with appreciable curves, gorgeous face, lovely smile, perfect teeth, visually perfect; altogether she is a breathtakingly beautiful example of a hot South American girl. Probably the most naturally beautiful girl I have ever encountered at Artemis.

Plays the vamp in the lounge, but is actually terribly sweet in the room. Very skilled, slightly withdrawn and distant at first, but with careful and sensitive handling she can be prised open to delicious effect. All services available.

She says that she will only be around for a few more days, but is looking to return in early May. Availability is, therefore, limited. So get it while you can. This one comes with Charlie's 5-star recommendation!

Enjoy,

Charlie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1147565]Brown hair, longer than medium length, streaked with blond highlights and arranged in tight ringlets.

Colour of eyes. Are you serious? . Not something I notice in a girl. I couldn't tell you the colour of eyes of any girl in Artemis, could you? Let's test you out. What colour are Clara's eyes?

No tattoos at all, light tan coloured skin, large breasts, slim, quite tall. I fully expect her to be sauntering around in an 'I love Charlie' t-shirt in future, so she should be easy to spot.

You'll find her easily enough if you watch out for the drop-dead gorgeous Latina (unless I find her first, in which case she'll be gone for the evening)

Best.

C[/QUOTE]Serious? Totally serious.

As serious as I can be when we talk about this stuff. Hahahaha.

In this particular case I was asking the color just to have another detail to recognize her but in general eyes are something I notice a lot in girls.

You know me, I get attracted by "stupid" details.

If it's a new girl (not tested) I'm looking at, I notice eyes, smile, haircut, the makeup, even the nails or the way she walks before things like the size of the tits, etc.

It's those details that make me decide to try a girl, often.

Obviously I won't choose a girl that looks like shit only because she has a nice makeup, but those details makes the difference for me.

There's a couple of girls at Artemis, that I like a lot but that in general are not in my hall of fame. When they show up and we start chatting a bit I usually end up in the room with them. And that's mainly for eyes, makeup, smiles, etc. . I love it! Manuela is one of them.

Not very important but, is it just me living in this world of fantasies?

Clara? Clara who? Clara what? Touché!

I guess black.

This said, think that next time we decide to meet at 5pm at Artemis I'll show up around 4 to make sure I find her before you! :-)

All the best!

Things were very quiet today. I appreciated the Easter chocolates which were there for the taking and the Easter decorations in the main lounge. However, the girls were thin on the ground and those who were there were generally not of the highest quality. I only had the morning and early afternoon there as I was going to a show later on and was pleased when an old flame turned up at about 1pm. She told me how all the good girls I asked her about were on holiday at the moment. I spent an enjoyable hour with her and then called it a day. She was concerned about the lack of punters too and was keen to make a date with me for tomorrow.

After a vigorous workout in the gym and breakfast I spent five hours in the very pleasant company of my friend from yesterday, who was a great companion. We both highly recommend room 15. Ecstacy! She told me that the day before things had got busier in the evening and she had managed to secure both a duo (I introduced her to the term 'spit-roast') and a longer session in the evening with a repeat customer of hers.

I think I am getting jaded. Now when I go to Artemis I am no longer thrilled by the sight of the naked girls but I see women who I have had a history with. Usually unremarkable sessions which I wouldn't repeat, and generally these girls pass by without giving me a smile, or I see ladies who I don't fancy enough to want to kiss. Suitable women are fewer and further between than ever, so I search for the arms and company of a few trusted performers who I want to spend longer time with. I know that when I return to the lounge it will be difficult to make a further selection and the time will pass slowly.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1148335]I think I am getting jaded. Now when I go to Artemis I am no longer thrilled by the sight of the naked girls but I see women who I have had a history with. Usually unremarkable sessions which I wouldn't repeat, and generally these girls pass by without giving me a smile, or I see ladies who I don't fancy enough to want to kiss. Suitable women are fewer and further between than ever, so I search for the arms and company of a few trusted performers who I want to spend longer time with. I know that when I return to the lounge it will be difficult to make a further selection and the time will pass slowly.[/QUOTE]A succinct summary of the process through which I believe most (all?) FKK-regulars go.

On one's first few visits the visual thrill is paramount.

Sunsequently one has a series of blinding sessions with stunning girls, mixed in with some disappointing encounters with sub-par performers.

'Familiarity breeds contempt', and one begins to get blasé about all the naked ladies.

A stable of reliable performers who are also pleasant girls emerges. The upside attraction of sessions with unknown girls diminishes as compared to the opportunity cost of spending the same time, money and ejaculation resources with someone who is tried and tested. One gets more and more disincentivised to session with new girls and focusses increasingly on 'old stock'.

One begins to get bored of the 'old stock'. The untried material remains unappetising. The upside potential of a fabulous encounter with a new partner is more than offset by the potential frustration of another disappointment with an untried bedmate, and apathy sets in.

That's when you get to the point where:-

'I know that when I return to the lounge it will be difficult to make a further selection and the time will pass slowly'

That's why, in my view, it is important for the dedicated enthusiast to mix in some adventures at places like KLD, VK, Monrouge, gang-bang parties, escorts and flat-rates, otherwise the FKK scene gets a stale feeling to it.

Charlie

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1148433]. A stable of reliable performers who are also pleasant girls emerges. The upside attraction of sessions with unknown girls diminishes as compared to the opportunity cost of spending the same time, money and ejaculation resources with someone who is tried and tested. One gets more and more disincentivised to session with new girls and focusses increasingly on 'old stock'.

One begins to get bored of the 'old stock'. The untried material remains unappetising. The upside potential of a fabulous encounter with a new partner is more than offset by the potential frustration of another disappointment with an untried bedmate, and apathy sets in.

That's when you get to the point where:-

'I know that when I return to the lounge it will be difficult to make a further selection and the time will pass slowly'

That's why, in my view, it is important for the dedicated enthusiast to mix in some adventures at places like KLD, VK, Monrouge, gang-bang parties, escorts and flat-rates, otherwise the FKK scene gets a stale feeling to it.

Charlie[/QUOTE]So it's not I'm turning gay or something is it? Ahaha.

Seriously, deep stuff.

I can't say I'm a regular, in the sense that yes, I regularly visit Artemis, but my visits don't happen often.

Still, I do start feeling that way sometimes. Not that I don't enjoy Artemis, but for sure it's a differerent kind of experience than in the beginning.

I can see the fact that if I where to visit Artemis every week or two it would rapidly change things.

Question. You guys probably visit other fkks more than me, do you feel that way in any fkk or just in Artemis (being the fkk you visit more often)?

I recall when I went to Oase and Palace, had real fun. The game was the same as always. Different girls, slightly different rules, but still the same sport.

Don't have much experience about other kind of stuff and this is mainly because everytime I get in Berlin I don't feel like taking risks, I know I'll have fun at Artemis and so I go there. When I'm away from Berlin it's very very rare I get in this kind of things, meaning pay per fuck in general.

My2cents.

Kimino

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1148335]I think I am getting jaded. Now when I go to Artemis I am no longer thrilled by the sight of the naked girls but I see women who I have had a history with. Usually unremarkable sessions which I wouldn't repeat, and generally these girls pass by without giving me a smile, or I see ladies who I don't fancy enough to want to kiss. Suitable women are fewer and further between than ever, so I search for the arms and company of a few trusted performers who I want to spend longer time with. I know that when I return to the lounge it will be difficult to make a further selection and the time will pass slowly.[/QUOTE]I was moved by great sadness when I read this. I have read of many sufferings through many lands but yours is a serious case.

I think the first step to solving a problem is to state it clearly. Your problem is this: an excess of beautiful naked large-breasted girls willing to do you every sexual favour and perform your vilest fantasy at a minute's notice.

Now. Solutions?

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1148433]That's why, in my view, it is important for the dedicated enthusiast to mix in some adventures at places like KLD, VK, Monrouge, gang-bang parties, escorts and flat-rates, otherwise the FKK scene gets a stale feeling to it.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi Charlie, I'm not sure I am that dedicated! However, I agree with your description of the process I have been through.

The point really is made by what happened at Artemis today (Easter Sunday) which was an identical repeat of Saturday. I. E. I took the same girl to the same room for a few hours and spent about 5 hours with her in the club. Am I jaded or am I in love?

LT

[QUOTE=Kimino;1148490]Question. You guys probably visit other fkks more than me, do you feel that way in any fkk or just in Artemis (being the fkk you visit more often)?[/QUOTE]I think it's partly because I have been to Artemis more than other clubs and have become more familiar with the line-up there. But also because Easter was a particularly quiet time and a lot of the talent was absent. On recent trips to Oase I found the line-up very entertaining and had no problems making a selection of both an old flame and a great girl who was completely new to me.

Charlie.

I do understand your situation.

We have passed the hat around and taken advice.

Inga stated that there are now direct flights from FKK to BKK and that Thai womenhood (? Girldom) needs you (or your money at least).

BSK.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1148433]A succinct summary of the process through which I believe most (all?) FKK-regulars go.

A stable of reliable performers who are also pleasant girls emerges. The upside attraction of sessions with unknown girls diminishes as compared to the opportunity cost of spending the same time, money and ejaculation resources with someone who is tried and tested. One gets more and more disincentivised to session with new girls and focusses increasingly on 'old stock'.

That's why, in my view, it is important for the dedicated enthusiast to mix in some adventures at places like KLD, VK, Monrouge, gang-bang parties, escorts and flat-rates, otherwise the FKK scene gets a stale feeling to it.

Charlie[/QUOTE]

I had to spend some days in Berlin and my favorite escort was not available. So despite the fact that I don't like this sex-factory I decided to go to A. I arrived around 3pm and went to the lounge : 12 or 15 girls, not too convincing for my taste. After a while a lady from Hamburg (Jenny, Jane, Joan?) came to ask me. Blond pig-tail, blue eyes. Tall, long legs. Yes, I was interested. But I use to ask the girls what kind of services they would provide. The answer : No kissing, no anal, no fingering, no 69, no BBBJ, no CIM."After all. What am I allowed to do?". "You may fuck me!". I resigned. Then : Laura, Lora, Lara. From Italy, she said. But as far as I know there is still a difference between Rome and Romania and normally girls from Italy speak some Italien, at least. She wanted me to go upstairs immediately, but I did not. One more hour : A young girl, beautiful smile, brown eyes and long hair, very nice tiny breasts, sexy feet, completely shaven. We talked for a moment, went to the room. What a menu : A fine DATY as amuse-gueule, a great blow-job as entree, some funny cowboy-stile fucking as plat de resistance, a savorous CIM as dessert. Chef de cuisine : Michelle, from Cuba.. I love her.

[QUOTE=London Traveller;1148597]I think it's partly because I have been to Artemis more than other clubs and have become more familiar with the line-up there. But also because Easter was a particularly quiet time and a lot of the talent was absent. On recent trips to Oase I found the line-up very entertaining and had no problems making a selection of both an old flame and a great girl who was completely new to me.[/QUOTE]Hi LT,

I can recommend you to get away from Artemis for a while and go to NRW area, to Villa Vertigo (my favorite) , Goldentime, LR, PHG, Samya. I'm sure you would like the line-up there and the prices are cheaper.

See you around.

Nille

[QUOTE=Nille Copenhagen; 1149059]Hi LT,

I can recommend you to get away from Artemis for a while and go to NRW area, to Villa Vertigo (my favorite) , Goldentime, LR, PHG, Samya. I'm sure you would like the line-up there and the prices are cheaper.

See you around.

Nille[/QUOTE]Hi Nille,

You are right. In fact this is my plan. It starts with a flight to Dusseldorf on 28th May and I hope to go to at least some of your suggested venues. You are also right that I am spending too much money in these clubs. 5 hours of company in the afternoon doesn't come cheap and I need to be more economical!

Bw, LT

[QUOTE=London Traveller; 1149273]Hi Nille,

You are right. In fact this is my plan. It starts with a flight to Dusseldorf on 28th May and I hope to go to at least some of your suggested venues. You are also right that I am spending too much money in these clubs. 5 hours of company in the afternoon doesn't come cheap and I need to be more economical!

Bw, LT[/QUOTE]Hi LT, I've never done 5 hours with the same girl, if that's what you are saying.

The prices for NRW would be: 75+50+50+50+50= 275€. Or some places the girls charge 50+25+50+25+50+25+50+25+50+25=375€, still a lot cheaper than Artemis.

How long are you staying in DUS, we might team up.

Nille

I'm not looking for sexual details but just wanted to know what people do during very long sessions. Meaning hours.

It never happened to me. The longest session I ever had (in a pay for fuck situation) is maybe one hour and a half.

It's not for the money, but even if I like the girl and chat with her before and after having sex, after a while I get bored of the situation and just feel like looking for something new or relax etc.

Never asked for massages or similar.

Even with the few girls with which I enjoy chatting (not many) , after a while there's not much to say.

Still, I'm very curious and maybe I'm missing something.

I know it's probably something to talk about face to face, and hopefully I will in my next visit, but anyone wants to share some info on this?

Best!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1149895]I'm not looking for sexual details but just wanted to know what people do during very long sessions. Meaning hours.

It never happened to me. The longest session I ever had (in a pay for fuck situation) is maybe one hour and a half.

It's not for the money, but even if I like the girl and chat with her before and after having sex, after a while I get bored of the situation and just feel like looking for something new or relax etc.

Never asked for massages or similar.

Even with the few girls with which I enjoy chatting (not many) , after a while there's not much to say.

Still, I'm very curious and maybe I'm missing something.

I know it's probably something to talk about face to face, and hopefully I will in my next visit, but anyone wants to share some info on this?

Best! [/QUOTE]You don't have to do anything. The girls will find a way to keep the meter running. You just have to want to stay with the girl.

[QUOTE=Akibono;1149903]You don't have to do anything. The girls will find a way to keep the meter running. You just have to want to stay with the girl.[/QUOTE][font=tahoma] Yeah. Got to agree with the above statement. From personal experience, if you take a hooker to the zimmer for more than two hours, you will probably spend at least a third of the time talking or just fooling around. Of course, this is fine if it is what you want / require and does lend towards a more intimate (GFE type) experience. You are paying for the time though. I have heard tales of guys with chemically enhanced erections who will go at it non-stop for two hours or more with little talk or normal verbal interraction with the lady in question. In effect they will pound away for two hours (or more) with little normal verbal interaction. The hooker is in effect just a piece of meat. Ok perhaps fine fillet steak perhaps! More normal for there to be some chat during an extended session. Lets face it if you keep a hooker in the zimmer for an extended period either you are very very horny or you are having an all round pleasant time in her company and a sort of connection has been established. This is what I know from personal experience and what I have also been told anecdotally. [/font]