Saint Petersburg

Hi,

Has anyone actually used any of the websites that are mentioned in the forum? Can we have some feedback? Will travel in SPB next summer.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2051279]Hey fellas,

Well if you scroll down just a little bit, you'll see that on May 16th, I asked several questions about mongering in St. Petersburg (SPB). And despite the fact that I didn't get a single response, I'm writing a trip report to share what mongering tricks and secrets I learned while spending a week in SPB. So here we go:

1) I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel:

[URL]http://www.forumhotel.ru/en/[/URL]

This hotel is right on Nevsky Prospekt. For those of you who commented on this forum that you used bilingual (English and Russian) taxi drivers to monger in SPB, you'll be happy to know that the main taxi driver for Nevsky Forum Hotel, Alexander, is also bilingual. But interestingly, after meeting him at the airport for my airport-to-hotel transfer and thinking that he was going to be crucial to my mongering success in SPB, I never used him once. Keep reading to find out why.

Another nice aspect of Nevsky Forum Hotel is that a majority of their receptionists are beautiful, young women who are also bilingual. One of them (Julia) looks just like actress Shannon Elizabeth, I shit you not. So it was nice to pass by the reception desk of the hotel multiple times each day and have all of these beautiful Russian women smiling at me..[/QUOTE]You mention that the girls that you saw all had tattoos. None in the pictures has any. Can you please let us know if the girls you saw are actually the girls in the pictures? Especially about Vitalyna you are saying she had 6 tattoos but in the picture she looks flawless.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2089670]You mention that the girls that you saw all had tattoos. None in the pictures has any. Can you please let us know if the girls you saw are actually the girls in the pictures? Especially about Vitalyna you are saying she had 6 tattoos but in the picture she looks flawless.[/QUOTE]It is a common practice to remove tattoos from girl's photos if a girl is concerned about hiding her identity.

Go to Petersburg. Going to Moscow for p4 p is an error. People go to Moscow because it is the capital of Russia and that is all they know. Moscow is too big, too expensive (both p4 p and other things) and unfriendly (like many capitals, but among the worst in this regard). Actually there is not that much p4 p in Moscow anymore, expect for websites and online dating, and that is hit and miss. And when it can take 1-2 hours to get from one location to another hit and miss is very inefficient.

Oh, and RTFF!

[QUOTE=BlueTouch;2078003]Hi,

I am new to the games in Russia. As for the price and for the quantity / amount of the salons, which is better St P or Moscow?

Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

You are right, the strip clubs are rip off tourist traps. You have to go to the salons. It is easier to get in if you have somebody to follow you there and do 2-3 short telephone conversations for you. Like a reliable taxi driver.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2073977]Hi all,

I'm new here in St. Pete and have noticed several strip clubs near me. I researched on the forum and it seems they are all pretty much rip-off joints. Are there any strip clubs that are decent? Thank in advance. Just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2091237]You are right, the strip clubs are rip off tourist traps. You have to go to the salons. It is easier to get in if you have somebody to follow you there and do 2-3 short telephone conversations for you. Like a reliable taxi driver.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. If anyone would like to do a tour of the salons here sometime, let me know. I live here.

Thank you for your response.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2091236]Go to Petersburg. Going to Moscow for p4 p is an error. People go to Moscow because it is the capital of Russia and that is all they know. Moscow is too big, too expensive (both p4 p and other things) and unfriendly (like many capitals, but among the worst in this regard). Actually there is not that much p4 p in Moscow anymore, expect for websites and online dating, and that is hit and miss. And when it can take 1-2 hours to get from one location to another hit and miss is very inefficient.

Oh, and RTFF![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippy;2091263]Thanks for the response. If anyone would like to do a tour of the salons here sometime, let me know. I live here.[/QUOTE]Hi Zippy,

I will be up for that. I have been to one already but I would like to see the others. When are you free?

Thanks.

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[QUOTE=Holden123;2091283]Hi Zippy,

I will be up for that. I have been to one already but I would like to see the others. When are you free?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Khan99;2090189]It is a common practice to remove tattoos from girl's photos if a girl is concerned about hiding her identity.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your answer but my question still remains unanswered. Are the girls in the pictures the girls you meet?

Hi guys,

I did RTFF and didn't found any answer to my question, so have to make a new post hope anyone could enlighten me.

I'm planning to visit SPB and booking hotel right now, so anyone can tell me some girl friendly hotels? (I will stay in 4 or 5 star hotels and prefer it's not too far to city center). Currently I'm looking at Corinthia, Domina and Nevsky Forum hotel.

Thank you all!

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2091874]Thank you for your answer but my question still remains unanswered. Are the girls in the pictures the girls you meet?[/QUOTE]In my experience Markiza, Karamelki and Nezabudki salons provide only real photos of the girls. Usually edited but real.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2089670]You mention that the girls that you saw all had tattoos. None in the pictures has any. Can you please let us know if the girls you saw are actually the girls in the pictures? Especially about Vitalyna you are saying she had 6 tattoos but in the picture she looks flawless.[/QUOTE]Hi MorandUK,

My apologies to you for the tardiness of this response. I just got back last night from spending a little over a week in Trinidad and Tobago, and I don't check ISG while I'm on the road. And for the record, I never log out of ISG, so even though the ISG system says I'm online, I'm not always.

Okay, to answer your question, yes, the girls I sessioned with while in SPB appeared nearly identical in person to their official photographs posted on the salon websites.

Now Khan99 stated:

[QUOTE=Khan99;2090189]It is a common practice to remove tattoos from girl's photos if a girl is concerned about hiding her identity.[/QUOTE]And this was definitely the case with Vitalina, on whose body I really did count six tattoos (dragon, Japanese symbols, Spanish phrase, 69 symbol, etc). In fact, the more I monger, the more I realize that before girls post pictures of themselves online, they will Photoshop tattoos from their pictures, will wear clothing to hide tattoos, or will position their body in such a way to hide tattoos.

On a final note, anyone reading any of my trip reports will quickly realize that I believe in being very specific and thorough. I want to be an accurate and reliable source of information here on ISG and I want to have a solid reputation on ISG. The only thing that bothers me on this site more than someone who lies or stretches the truth (yes, there are a few of those on ISG) are mongers who write trip reports that only say "I went to a country and fucked a girl! It was awesome!" I believe in being truthful, accurate, and specific because I want mongers to read my reports, go overseas and have a safe and fun time, and then come back to ISG and say "Yeah Quagmire1974 was right and I had a great time! Thanks, Q Man!

[QUOTE=Martin5678;2092081]Hi guys,

I did RTFF and didn't found any answer to my question, so have to make a new post hope anyone could enlighten me.

I'm planning to visit SPB and booking hotel right now, so anyone can tell me some girl friendly hotels? (I will stay in 4 or 5 star hotels and prefer it's not too far to city center). Currently I'm looking at Corinthia, Domina and Nevsky Forum hotel.

Thank you all![/QUOTE]If you haven't yet booked your hotel, you might want to try this strategy: send each hotel an e-mail and tell them you are considering making a reservation with them. Tell them you've been to St. Petersburg a few times in the past, have many friends in the city, and want to know if those friends can visit you in your hotel room without staying the night. See what they say and make your decision based on their responses.

For the record, I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel. I did all of my mongering at the nearby salons and didn't try to bring girls back to my room. I would gladly stay there again if I ever returned to Saint Petersburg. They've got great reviews over on TripAdvisor:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298507-d634787-Reviews-Nevsky_Forum_Hotel-St_Petersburg_Northwestern_District.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2093141]If you haven't yet booked your hotel, you might want to try this strategy: send each hotel an e-mail and tell them you are considering making a reservation with them. Tell them you've been to St. Petersburg a few times in the past, have many friends in the city, and want to know if those friends can visit you in your hotel room without staying the night. See what they say and make your decision based on their responses.

For the record, I was lodged at Nevsky Forum Hotel. I did all of my mongering at the nearby salons and didn't try to bring girls back to my room. I would gladly stay there again if I ever returned to Saint Petersburg. They've got great reviews over on TripAdvisor:

[URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298507-d634787-Reviews-Nevsky_Forum_Hotel-St_Petersburg_Northwestern_District.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks man, that's what I'm planning to do if I couldn't get any information on this.

Where can I find some curvier, thicker girls in SPB? Are they available in the salons or is the escort route better?

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2068550]For me, the optimal location in Petersburg is Ploshchad Vostaniya / Moskovskiy railway station. This is at the more operational and less touristy end of Nevskiy Prospekt. There are lots of canteen-style stolovayas where you can go and eat ok food cheaply and not have to wait for it to be cooked. Some of them are open 24 hours. There are various hotels in the area, my favourites being Corinthia (if you can spend a bit), Helvetia (small and cosy, great breakfast, perhaps possible to bring in girls discreetly, though I am not sure) and Oktyabrskaya (soviet behemoth, the cheapest of the three, though nothing is cheap here in the summer half of the year). Oktyabrskaya and Corinthia have som ladies hanging out at night. I don't know how much they take in Corinthia, but in Oktyabrskaya they want 7000 roubles, which is way overpriced compared to the salons (and the hotel ladies are also much older). But 37 year old Svetlana from Oktyabrskaya was worth it.

Nearby there are lots of salons. This time I blasted my way through three:

- Nezabudki next to Corinthia on Nevskiy (mostly a daytime place, always something interesting there, though there were not many girls there when I was there).

- Zazerkalnoe on Nevskiy (new place for me, varied and interesting experiences).

- Krasotki (or something like that), near metro Vladimirskaya (a 15-20 minute walk).

When selecting salons there is usually little point at looking at the pics of girls on their websites. Better to see how many rooms they have (6-8 is good), and then to ask them how many girls are available when you call them). The more the merrier, and three should be a minimum..[/QUOTE]Great report bro do you have any plan to visit FKK in Oct. If not can you give some tips if you have visited Frankfurt.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2093497]Where can I find some curvier, thicker girls in SPB? Are they available in the salons or is the escort route better?[/QUOTE]There are many curvy girls in salons.

[URL]http://modeli-spb.club/model/1714/[/URL]

[URL]http://spb-putana.ru/devochka.php?id=425[/URL]

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy-girl/1496400615[/URL]#1.

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1488225213[/URL]#!223024910_167844.

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy-girl/1506504394[/URL]#!IMG_8412.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2093571]There are many curvy girls in salons.

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1488225213[/URL]#!223024910_167844.[/QUOTE]Just as a caution to JoeShmoe, avoid this girl, Masha. The pictures are accurate and she is indeed busty and curvy, but her session with me (detailed in my trip report) was very mechanical. As always, though, with mongers and providers, YMMV.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2093571]There are many curvy girls in salons.

[URL]http://modeli-spb.club/model/1714/[/URL]

[URL]http://spb-putana.ru/devochka.php?id=425[/URL]

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy-girl/1496400615[/URL]#1.

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/fontanka-girl/1488225213[/URL]#!223024910_167844.

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/index.php/parkpobedy-girl/1506504394[/URL]#!IMG_8412.[/QUOTE]I prefer a little thicker but the first one looks great! I'll take a look around although I don't know any Russian.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2093714]I prefer a little thicker but the first one looks great! I'll take a look around although I don't know any Russian.[/QUOTE]The second one is a thick girl too.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2093714]I'll take a look around although I don't know any Russian.[/QUOTE]Use Google Chrome as your browser. When you visit the Markiza salon website, Chrome will ask you if you want to translate the page. Select yes, and the page will be translated into English. If the translation fails and Chrome asks you again to translate the page, select yes. Usually by the second time, the page will translate.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2092431]Hi MorandUK,

My apologies to you for the tardiness of this response. I just got back last night from spending a little over a week in Trinidad and Tobago, and I don't check ISG while I'm on the road. And for the record, I never log out of ISG, so even though the ISG system says I'm online, I'm not always.

Okay, to answer your question, yes, the girls I sessioned with while in SPB appeared nearly identical in person to their official photographs posted on the salon websites.

Now Khan99 stated:

And this was definitely the case with Vitalina, on whose body I really did count six tattoos (dragon, Japanese symbols, Spanish phrase, 69 symbol, etc). In fact, the more I monger, the more I realize that before girls post pictures of themselves online, they will Photoshop tattoos from their pictures, will wear clothing to hide tattoos, or will position their body in such a way to hide tattoos.[/QUOTE]Cheers! That is very helpful.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2090189]It is a common practice to remove tattoos from girl's photos if a girl is concerned about hiding her identity.[/QUOTE]Hi!

If you frequently visit escorts, you will know that half of what we see in their photos is a lie. Many of them erase their tattoos, piercings, change their personal information related to age, nationality, hair color, height, etc. To avoid being recognized. You may feel let down to see that they are different or worse than what you saw. Or they could even be better. For example, tattoos turn me on and sometimes I see that they don't have them in their pics but later I am surprised when their tattooed bodies make me horny.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2093883]Use Google Chrome as your browser. When you visit the Markiza salon website, Chrome will ask you if you want to translate the page. Select yes, and the page will be translated into English. If the translation fails and Chrome asks you again to translate the page, select yes. Usually by the second time, the page will translate.[/QUOTE]Yeah I tried that and it works good enough. The search for big asses continues.

Hey guys,

Was browsing rusdosug and have a few questions.

Is there a way to find more thorough reviews / pics of girls such as a forum?

If the ad says other girls with same number, does it mean it's a salon?

Any advice on non English speakers? I was hoping to use google translate but she only accepts calls.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2097821]Hey guys,

Was browsing rusdosug and have a few questions.

Is there a way to find more thorough reviews / pics of girls such as a forum?

If the ad says other girls with same number, does it mean it's a salon?

Any advice on non English speakers? I was hoping to use google translate but she only accepts calls.[/QUOTE]Prices in rusdosug website are to high. 1 h sex in SPB cost from 2000 to 3000 roebel. (70 roebel /1 euro is the rate). For 30 euro. You can have all.

[QUOTE=JoeShmoe;2097821]Hey guys,

Was browsing rusdosug and have a few questions.

Is there a way to find more thorough reviews / pics of girls such as a forum?

If the ad says other girls with same number, does it mean it's a salon?

Any advice on non English speakers? I was hoping to use google translate but she only accepts calls.[/QUOTE]Yes, there is a Spb forum for mongers [URL]https://forumamur.com[/URL] You can try google translate, but there is obviously a lot of jargon that will be lost in translation.

In most cases it does.

Try calling her anyway (some girls speak English) or write a message explaining your situation.

Hi guys,

Quick question about Markiza and Marelki salons (and perhaps Nebudzki but haven't found it's address yet).

What's the normal etiquette for visiting these places? Can you just walk in or should you make an appointment beforehand? Do they speak English at all? My Russian is limited to few phrases.

[QUOTE=AzureDrake;2100798]Hi guys,

Quick question about Markiza and Marelki salons (and perhaps Nebudzki but haven't found it's address yet).

What's the normal etiquette for visiting these places? Can you just walk in or should you make an appointment beforehand? Do they speak English at all? My Russian is limited to few phrases.[/QUOTE]Your questions and comments are covered in my SPB trip report, written on June 22, 2017 and found on page 4 of this forum. Of course, things change over time and I'm hoping we'll get a fresh SPB trip report posted in this forum soon.

Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers. (For those who don't know already).

There are women on the streets and bars, especially on Rubestein, who will be extra friendly with you, chatty etc. They will seem interested in you and lead you on.

Then they will invite you to a bar, where they will rob, at least, 100 dollars min from you. Be careful, some of them are very unsuspecting.

I have been a victim, as well as many foreigners, whom I have met.

1. If it seems to easy, then its a red flag. 2. If they insist on inviting you to a place of their choice, avoid like the plague. 3. Do not ever go to Bar Matreshka!

4. Even be careful on Tinder. If it is too easy, don't fall into the trap.

Safest places to find women are the salons, like Karamelki and Markizaspb etc. Although there is nothing special there lately.

Nightclubs are a load of shit. I have never had luck there. Always bad attitude, and a lot of bullshit, all over the world.

Biggymot club is where all the high class hookers go, but expect to spend a shit load to probably get teased.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2102025]Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers. (For those who don't know already).

There are women on the streets and bars, especially on Rubestein, who will be extra friendly with you, chatty etc. They will seem interested in you and lead you on.

Then they will invite you to a bar, where they will rob, at least, 100 dollars min from you. Be careful, some of them are very unsuspecting.

I have been a victim, as well as many foreigners, whom I have met.

1. If it seems to easy, then its a red flag. 2. If they insist on inviting you to a place of their choice, avoid like the plague. 3. Do not ever go to Bar Matreshka!

4. Even be careful on Tinder. If it is too easy, don't fall into the trap.

Safest places to find women are the salons, like Karamelki and Markizaspb etc. Although there is nothing special there lately.

Nightclubs are a load of shit. I have never had luck there. Always bad attitude, and a lot of bullshit, all over the world.

Biggymot club is where all the high class hookers go, but expect to spend a shit load to probably get teased.[/QUOTE]Yep, while I haven't been a victim, it's obvious to me that you need to be careful here in St. Pete in terms of scams like the ones Holden mentioned. I've only been to Orchid salon and it has been decent. The clubs and bars are completely hit or miss unless you speak a lot of Russian.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2102025]Big warning. St Petersburg nightlife is swarming with scammers. (For those who don't know already).

Then they will invite you to a bar, where they will rob, at least, 100 dollars min from you. Be careful, some of them are very unsuspecting.[/QUOTE]Do you mean that they will make you buy them a drink which will be overpriced?

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2102480]Do you mean that they will make you buy them a drink which will be overpriced?[/QUOTE]I think what Holden123 is referring to is a common scam that is found in parts of Europe and Russia: You're a single guy walking down the street in a foreign country. All of a sudden, one or two beautiful girls approach you on the street and start chatting you up. You're standing there getting a hard-on and thinking "Wow, I might be able to bang one (or both) of these chicks!" After a few minutes of conversation, the girls suggest having a drink at a nearby bar. You agree and follow the girls to a bar of their choice. You all sit down and the bartender starts serving drinks. After a couple of rounds, the bartender brings the bill and you see that it's hundreds of Dollars or Euros or Pounds. You don't have nearly that much money on you and would never pay that much for alcohol anyway. You start eying the door thinking you'll make a run for it until you notice the bouncer guarding the door looks like "The Mountain" from "Game of Thrones. " You pay the entire amount or negotiate down to a slightly lower price or refuse and get your ass kicked. Scams like this one are referenced in many guidebooks (Lonely Planet, Rick Steves, Bradt, The Rough Guide, Fodor's, Frommer's) and are regularly discussed in the TripAdvisor forum. Personally, I give a very cold shoulder to anyone who approaches me on the street in a foreign country, even more so if they start speaking English in a country where English isn't the primary language. While in SPB, I did have a couple of single girls approach me on Nevsky Prospekt (across the street from Corinthia Hotel) and suggest going to a bar for a drink, but I just kept on walking. Another thing to watch out for on Nevsky Prospekt are pickpockets, who work the crowds (especially near the canals) that build up due to the traffic signals.

I might only add that this scam concerns not only girl that approach you on the street, but also girls you meet on dating websites or Facebook or [URL]vk.com[/URL] or Tinder. A date is arranged, you meet each other on the street at specific address and she almost instantly invites you to a "very nice place" that is "just around the corner". Beware!

[QUOTE=Khan99;2103558]I might only add that this scam concerns not only girl that approach you on the street, but also girls you meet on dating websites or Facebook or [URL]vk.com[/URL] or Tinder. A date is arranged, you meet each other on the street at specific address and she almost instantly invites you to a "very nice place" that is "just around the corner". Beware![/QUOTE]Ah yes, I remember this scheme all too well. On my first trip to Budapest, many years ago, I was strolling along Vatsi Utsa and fell prey to this offer. Sadly, I was the equivalent of many hundred Euro lighter after only a few drinks. Nice to see the SPB has moved up market in their repertoire of scams. Just slightly more sophisticated than the "Two Cop Shakedown" on Nevsky Prospect!!

I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around £80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also. I refused to pay for the wine and asked her to order another drink instead, so she opted for a cocktail (which I did not see the price of) and the meat tray, whilst I order a reasonably priced beer for myself. I was getting a bad feeling about the bar still, so I told her I wanted to go somewhere else midway through my first drink, however she was quite insistent that she wanted to stay in this bar. I managed to persuade her to leave after a while, and when presented with the bill it came to something like $80 which I thought was highly excessive but which I felt I had to pay as we had consumed the items. After checking the reviews of this bar on Google some time after, it was clear other people had had a similar experience to me and that this bar was clearly a scam bar. Anyway, after leaving that bar, the Date wanted to go to another bar just a few doors up from the Secret Service Pub, which again looked quite empty and ominous so I refused and instead we carried on walking up the road until I found a bar that was quite busy and looked safe. She was reluctant to go in, but I managed to persuade her saying we would just go to this bar for a couple of drinks. Anyway, when we got in there her attitude completely changed and she began constantly playing with her phone, and after 15 or so minutes two of her friends showed up and I then even get a worse feeling about events and made my excuses and left.

So after a couple more drinks on my own, I went back onto Tinder and started chatting with another girl who, quite quickly, agreed to meet me that night. I had had a few drinks by this stage so I wasn't thinking straight, as there should have been alarm bells ringing as it was around 10 pm at that point on a week day night (not the weekend) and she agreed to meet me after not such a substantial degree of conversation. Anyway, she asked if she could bring a friend, which I didn't mind, and then also asked if I would pay her taxi, which when I asked her how much, she quoted something in the region of £12. Going on UK rates, I didn't think £12 was too much so I agreed to pay it, however after later learning the taxi rates in Saint Petersburg I know that £12 is highly excessive and that taxi's do not cost that much even if you are going from the centre to the airport. Anyway, when my second "Date" showed, her and her friend seemed really nice and I did not have any suspicions this time around. They asked me if I liked Karaoke and so off we all went to a Karaoke bar (which was called Granada Bar on Stremyannaya Ul. 4 according to my credit card receipts from the night). So when we entered this place the girls wanted to order a bottle of champagne, which again seemed highly overpriced (around 5,000 Russian Rubles from memory), however I agreed to pay for just the one bottle to start things off with the intention of then going on to something cheaper as I was well aware of the expensive pricing. But after the first bottle, the waitress kept coming back and I kept ordering this clearly overpriced champagne, even though I was well aware from the first bottle that it was overpriced, which leads me to believe that the waitress must have put something in my drink to make me more suggestive to keep paying for such low quality overpriced champagne (or one of the two girls put something in my drink, either way it was apparent afterwards that both the two girls and the venue were in on this deceptive scam), and the venue even charged an excessive amount for each Karaoke song (I have been to quite a few Karaoke bars around the world and have never been charged per song for Karaoke) and also charged excessive prices for Sheisha, which again I knew was highly overpriced yet I kept paying which leads me further to believe that I was drugged in some way. You were even allowed to smoke cigarettes sat at your seat in this Karaoke bar, which should have raised alarm bells also given that smoking in bars appears to be banned at all the other bars I have been to in Saint Petersburg previous to this bar. Anyway, I cannot remember leaving the bar at the end of the night, however counting my credit card receipts up the next day including the money I took out with me that night, I spent a total in the region of $1,500 (in hindsight it was very stupid to take credit cards out with me that night but I was hungover from the previous night and not thinking straight). The bizarre thing was, that second Date was messaging me the next day asking if I wanted to go out again with her! When I questioned the pricing from the night before she said that was "normal", however we all know that type of spending on a night out is not "normal" for most people! Again, after checking the reviews of this Karaoke bar on google other people have had the same type of scam experience at that place.

Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.

Stay safe people!

[QUOTE=Dave9090;2105709]I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia![/QUOTE]I see that you posted this exact same story over on TripAdvisor in the Saint Petersburg forum under the title "Tinder Scams. St Petersburg. " I'm sorry, but some of the comments you've received over there so far make me chuckle and agree.

What's sad about your situation is that while you were getting scammed at Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Prospekt, you were literally a couple minutes walk from a salon that I visited in mid-2016 and detailed in my trip report here on ISG.

Thanks for sharing your story with us and sorry you got scammed. Since you mention here on ISG and TripAdvisor that you're "very well travelled," you might want to spend a little more time RTFF on TripAdvisor and ISG to help avoid what you experienced in SPB.

Haha, yes I did post it there and a few other places just to let as many people know as possible so as to try and help other people not experience in the future the same financial damage as I did!

I admit I was a silly boy in the whole episode though, and I could have avoided being fleeced so badly by just applying some common sense as I usually do when travelling, however I was already hung over going into the night in question so I wasn't thinking so straight as I never take credit cards out with me on a night out as that is just asking for trouble! That being said, if these [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] and shyster venues were working honestly then people could have a relaxing night out without having to think some issues could occur.

I'm not into pro's and found this site by chance when doing internet research as to where I could post online about this scam so as to inform other people. At the time of going to Russia, there was nothing online or in print relating to SPB that mentioned any tinder scams (only general internet scams which I assumed related to the old scam of people asking you to send them money etc) so RTFF wielded no useful notification in this case, and this is why I wanted to post this Tinder scam online so that people were aware of it, however I notice that people have now subsequently posted about this on this forum just a few posts before mine.

Anyway all, stay safe and be careful who you go drinking with as some people can be very deceptive and good actors. And also don't take your credit cards with you on a night out!

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2106146]I see that you posted this exact same story over on TripAdvisor in the Saint Petersburg forum under the title "Tinder Scams. St Petersburg. " I'm sorry, but some of the comments you've received over there so far make me chuckle and agree.

What's sad about your situation is that while you were getting scammed at Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Prospekt, you were literally a couple minutes walk from a salon that I visited in mid-2016 and detailed in my trip report here on ISG.

Thanks for sharing your story with us and sorry you got scammed. Since you mention here on ISG and TripAdvisor that you're "very well travelled," you might want to spend a little more time RTFF on TripAdvisor and ISG to help avoid what you experienced in SPB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dave9090;2105709]Anyway, in summary, I did not report any of this to the police as there did not seem any point as I would not be able to claim such "theft" on my travel insurance and, as I am sure you know, the police have a reputation for being very corrupt in Russia.[/QUOTE]I think you were drugged. And probably passed out and if they managed to peep your PIN they continued to use your credit card. Well actually you could go to police and file a complaint (I've dealt with similar case but I speak Russian well), and policemen might even go to the bar and check, but of course the would be a number of "witnesses" telling policemen that you bought all the drinks voluntarily. Selling overpriced drinks is not a crime in Russia, unfortunately. And you could not prove your card was used without your consent, as you do not remember anything. So yes, this is almost a risk free scam, until they cross the wrong guy. It happened once, as I read in the news.

So at least you got home safe. This was an overpriced lesson for sure, but you lost nothing you can not earn back.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2106694]I think you were drugged. And probably passed out and if they managed to peep your PIN they continued to use your credit card. Well actually you could go to police and file a complaint (I've dealt with similar case but I speak Russian well), and policemen might even go to the bar and check, but of course the would be a number of "witnesses" telling policemen that you bought all the drinks voluntarily. Selling overpriced drinks is not a crime in Russia, unfortunately. And you could not prove your card was used without your consent, as you do not remember anything. So yes, this is almost a risk free scam, until they cross the wrong guy. It happened once, as I read in the news.

So at least you got home safe. This was an overpriced lesson for sure, but you lost nothing you can not earn back.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'd be willing to bet money that he was, in fact, drugged. It's common here in these clip joints. Happened to at least a couple of people I know. Luckily, they both had quality credit card companies and they contested the charges (since they were clearly fraudulent). They were refunded their money in both cases.

[QUOTE=Dave9090;2105709]I have never posted on here, however I am doing so now to make people aware of a Tinder scam I suffered from recently in Saint Petersburg. Whilst it happened in SPB, I am sure similar things happen in Moscow also so please be careful when using any online dating platform in Russia!

Basically, I met a woman on Tinder back in June who I was chatting with for some time and then I arranged to meet her on Nevsky Avenue for a drink one evening. She took me to a place called the Secret Service Pub on Nevsky Avenue. I immediately grew suspicious upon entering this bar as it was only around 7 pm and the place was quiet yet it had 1 or 2 security guys on the door, plus my instinct was telling me that the staff there knew my "Date" without any of them actually acknowledging each other, and in addition there were a couple of attractive girls sat at the bar alone. Even though I had these instincts, I still stayed as I had never heard of people being scammed in this way in Russia, or anywhere else for that matter and I am very well travelled. Anyway, the Date kept wanting to go into a separate closed off Karaoke area of the venue which I wasn't too keen on as I had not even had a drink yet that day, and when the menu arrived to order she wanted to order a bottle of wine that was priced around 80 and some kind of meat tray which again seemed somewhat overpriced after the meat tray arrived as it was very basic, however I had not been in Russia too long at that point so I was not aware of what the prices for things should generally be also.[/QUOTE]1) First of all it's nice that you have shared your story so everyone can learn something.

2) I don't want to offend you but you have big responsibility for what happened.

3) Even if the police would genuinely try to help you I don't think they would be able to because nothing illegal happened. This kind of things happen even in Soho London.

There are lots of stammers in this city. And they come out at night. As I have already said, myself and many friends have been victims. It is a horrible position to be in. At the end of the day, these kinds of people are criminals.

This forum is the best to get a low-down of where to go in the city. So I appreciate everyone's comments on here. This site is highly recommended.

As to hooring, what's the best place to visit these days? It seems quiet on here.

I have been to Karamelki, Cherneyscheksya. Not so great lately. 1 or 2 girls. In summer there were more. I was drunk and ended up with a girl, whom I did not particular like. She was the only girl available. There used to be a girl called Inna at the Cherneycheksya. Really nice. But she doesn't work there anymore.

Karamelki Fontaka is not bad. 2 girls there. They are nice, maybe 6/10. The madame is friendly.

I haven't seen any stunner.

The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?

[QUOTE=Holden123;2107021]I haven't seen any stunner.

The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's tough to get reliable information about the scene here in St. Pete especially if you don't speak Russian. I've been perusing this Russian website with review on individual girls (both privates and salons): [URL]https://forumamur.com/index.php[/URL].

But you need to use Google translate if you don't speak Russian, which is what I do.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2107021]There are lots of stammers in this city. And they come out at night. As I have already said, myself and many friends have been victims. It is a horrible position to be in. At the end of the day, these kinds of people are criminals.

This forum is the best to get a low-down of where to go in the city. So I appreciate everyone's comments on here. This site is highly recommended.

As to hooring, what's the best place to visit these days? It seems quiet on here.

I have been to Karamelki, Cherneyscheksya. Not so great lately. 1 or 2 girls. In summer there were more. I was drunk and ended up with a girl, whom I did not particular like. She was the only girl available. There used to be a girl called Inna at the Cherneycheksya. Really nice. But she doesn't work there anymore.

Karamelki Fontaka is not bad. 2 girls there. They are nice, maybe 6/10. The madame is friendly.

I haven't seen any stunner.

The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?[/QUOTE]Take a taxi and tell him to show around. Give him a good tip. Let us know what happened.

I was in a nice apartment for about 1 year ago. Gowns, dobble doors, mirrors etc. There were many beautiful ladies there.

I hope to return to this place. Does anyone know where it may have been?

[QUOTE=Holden123;2107021]The question remains. Where is the best salon to visit?[/QUOTE]Well, one of the great things about the two websites I referred to while in SPB:

[URL]http://www.nezabudki-spb.ru/[/URL]

[URL]http://markizaspb.info/[/URL]

Is that not only do they list the talent they have available in the salons, they also post a daily schedule of which girls are working or tell you which salon location contains which girls. All I simply did before and during my time in SPB was browse the websites to see which talent I liked, then see when that talent was working at which salon each day.

Browse the websites and see which girls you like best and then visit those salons. In my trip report on SPB, I gave the entry procedures for one Nezabudki and one Markiza salon. I'd love to read a trip report where someone details the entry procedures to the other Nezabudki and Markiza locations.

Hi colleagues,

I mongered in several countries such as Thailand, Brazil, Columbia and Ukraine among others but never been to Russia. I usually prefer to stay in Apartments rather than Hotels and benefit from having more than 1 room and avoid the famous walk of shame.

Is it easy to find apartments for 2-3 day stays in St. Petersburg? If yes, any recommendations?

If not, what Hotels are considered green for taking up more than 1 WG per day?

I've been reading this forum here now for over a month, but couldn't find any information about this topic recently.

Thanks!

Easyease.

[QUOTE=EasyEase;2110058]Hi colleagues,

I mongered in several countries such as Thailand, Brazil, Columbia and Ukraine among others but never been to Russia. I usually prefer to stay in Apartments rather than Hotels and benefit from having more than 1 room and avoid the famous walk of shame.

Is it easy to find apartments for 2-3 day stays in St. Petersburg? If yes, any recommendations?

If not, what Hotels are considered green for taking up more than 1 WG per day?

I've been reading this forum here now for over a month, but couldn't find any information about this topic recently.

Thanks!

Easyease.[/QUOTE][URL]http://oksanasapartments.com/[/URL]

Reading last posts I didn't find any reviews about the girls, so I decided to make a little input.

On my last trip to Russia I met Marina.

Awesome girl, sexy, classy, elegant, real high class and wow, what a body!

She is not very experienced, but her service was nice.

Treat her well and you will spend a great time.

Best to all.

I found her on cracker, here is her link:

[URL]http://russia.cracker.com/FemaleEscorts/marina-7-911-176-31-27-i-speak-fluent-english-xxx/3577958[/URL]

Is this another scam site or is it legitimate? The prices. The girls. The services. All seem too good to be true.

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2110526]Is this another scam site or is it legitimate? The prices. The girls. The services. All seem too good to be true.[/QUOTE]It DOES all seem a bit too good to be true doesn't it. Hmmmm.

[QUOTE=StinkyFeet;2110526]Is this another scam site or is it legitimate? The prices. The girls. The services. All seem too good to be true.[/QUOTE]Legit. Quality outcalls usually start at 2 hours and are not at dump prices.

[URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Questner;2110837]Legit. Quality outcalls usually start at 2 hours and are not at dump prices.

[URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank-you. I'm planning my first virgin trip to st. Petersburg come spring / summer next year.

About 80%-90% of working girls protect their identity. Cover faces, fake names, even remove tattoos from portfolio photos. If 100% of site photos have faces revealed, the site is fake. No doubt.

All web sites with photos of known internet porn models are fake. The girls working the salons in Piter treasure their anonymity. Prices in the city centre vary from 3000 to 5000 Rubel per hour. The girls get half, the other half goes to the salons. The very pretty ones could do nude photo shoots but that generates no constant revenues stream but blows their cover. Some girls ponder be / g porn, but that does not pay much better than the salons, usually does not generate a constant revenue stream and the girls must perform anal sex, which they usually shun. Many of the youngest girls in the salons do the job for a year or two until they get tired of johns punishing them for their work in the trade by roughing them and breaking condoms while pounding their pussies to enjoy bareback. I am always very nice and respectful with the butterflies but will admit that it inadvertently happened to me with a tiny, pretty 19 year old and it felt extremely well. It prepped me for an effortless orgasm, which I finished in the little girl's throat with great pleasure. Most girls dress modestly outside the salons. In fact, I get a kick out of checking out the shoes of the butterflies neatly stacked near the salon entrance in the salon. Usually you see used sneakers of sizes 35 to 38. Tiny, poor girls are the biggest turn-on. And Piter offers lots of them. For them the money and the attention can be a real aphrodisiac and they can be great company, enjoying the power they hold over men 35 years their senior and with 20 times their spending power.

IMHO too many forum punters worry about the irrelevant. Around Nevsky, there are many suitable hotels. I have not been to one that was not girl friendly. The reception staff may remind you that if the young girl stays overnight she must register, but they never check anyway.

The overnight stay is not necessarily the way to great sex. Some girls love to come back the next afternoon, but enjoy their time off relaxing or spending the money they made.

The walk of shame is in the head of the beholder. I am friendly with the receptionist, always, and appreciate young beauty anywhere I see it. Nevertheless, I enjoy passing a pretty receptionist with my sexual conquest in tow. Both never seem to have minded.

I pretty much always have the pretty girl come to my hotel room for 3 h. Most girls appreciate the luxury and the quality time spent with a gentleman without time pressure. In the room they usually are more open than in the salon to join for a shower or a jacuzzi bath or a sauna session. Prepare. There are little 24 h supermarket outlets everywhere. Buy tea bags and some fruits. There is delicious pastry to be had for no money. Stay away from alcohol when enjoying a young butterfly, for it will unnecessarily tire you. Put your energy in getting her off and in producing the most impressive ejaculation. Sitting opposite of another on a window sill after sex, pampering her in a bathrobe and the bed covers, opening the window for fresh cold air, having a smoke (do not blow all the smoke in the room, be considerate), drinking a tea together, laying her genitals open, caressing, can be a great sight and a wonderful place to start the next session. To have the girl in my room adds intimacy and romance.

Some salons want you to introduce yourself in person before agreeing to let the girl go to your room. That can be an enjoyable part of the game. Ask the girl in the salon whether she is ready to go with you, and off you go. Mention which services you expect and be flexible when the girl has hangups. Chemistry counts. Do not be shy to ask for BBBJ and CIF. She will tell you "no" if she minds these simple healthy practices. The taxi ride can be a nice time to make out, hold hands or talk to break the ice.

The photos in the salons can be deceiving, but the reputable salons do not show fake pics. Remember, people usually look considerably worse on pics than in real life. If you like what you see on a photo, try the butterfly in real life.

The body data is always correct in the reputable salons. I found out that I appreciate mostly tiny girls, so here is my try at explaining my preferences: horny, tiny, young, skinny, pretty face. What I want to say that I have met girls that where a little over ideal weight. I have met girls whose face was sub par to Cindy Crawford. But I have never been truly turned off by a tiny, young one, no matter what her body details were. The hornyness can be induced by her lover. The salon data on height and weight is reliable. The age is faked by 1 - 4 years to the younger end. But there are plenty of true 18 yo to be had in Piter, and the roster constantly sports new talent.

Are there any sex clubs or sex parties in the city? Or is there a forum, app, where one could meet sexually-like minded girls?

Has anyone actually used [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/[/URL] ? We would like to have some feedback.

[QUOTE=MorandUK;2117006]Has anyone actually used [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/[/URL] ? We would like to have some feedback.[/QUOTE]In the times when you can instantly make a reverse photo search why would anyone use a clearly fake site with photos of porn models? Go to rus dosug and check how working girls photos really look like.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2117220]In the times when you can instantly make a reverse photo search why would anyone use a clearly fake site with photos of porn models? Go to rus dosug and check how working girls photos really look like.[/QUOTE]Why would anyone have the trouble of uploading a time-consuming site of fake photos and information? You mean those contact numbers are a fake as well?

[QUOTE=Tavares;2117501]Why would anyone have the trouble of uploading a time-consuming site of fake photos and information? You mean those contact numbers are a fake as well?[/QUOTE]Probably they lead to some shitty salons with ugly girls and inadequate prices. There are lots of them. If you are drunk and eager to have sex you probably fall into scam anyway.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2117970]Probably they lead to some shitty salons with ugly girls and inadequate prices. There are lots of them. If you are drunk and eager to have sex you probably fall into scam anyway.[/QUOTE]Thank you Khan, but do you think all girls are fake with fake numbers? I mean there is one Rita from Prospekt Prosveshenia (I understand a bit of russian) in St. Petersburg I like very much. And her pictures were probably taken at her place. I was thinking of calling her. She looks like the girl next door.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2118188]Thank you Khan, but do you think all girls are fake with fake numbers? I mean there is one Rita from Prospekt Prosveshenia (I understand a bit of russian) in St. Petersburg I like very much. And her pictures were probably taken at her place. I was thinking of calling her. She looks like the girl next door.[/QUOTE]The one with kitchen photos? 100% fake, photos taken from some amateur photo set.

Do not let amateur photos fool you. There are tons of this kind of stuff on the internet. Scammers definitely prefer to use amateur photos as they look more convincing. Only the laziest ones use well known porn models.

[QUOTE=Khan99;2118406]The one with kitchen photos? 100% fake, photos taken from some amateur photo set.

Do not let amateur photos fool you. There are tons of this kind of stuff on the internet. Scammers definitely prefer to use amateur photos as they look more convincing. Only the laziest ones use well known porn models.[/QUOTE]I still don't see the point. According to you, those people that spend time uploading fakes, cater for drunk and eager to have sex guys. Well, as far as I am concerned I would never fall in that trap. If the girl I am supposed to meet is not the one on the photo, I am off to greener pastures.

Apparently this "girl" speaks english and is recent on the site so I am going to give it a try.

Thanks Khan.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2118696]I still don't see the point. According to you, those people that spend time uploading fakes, cater for drunk and eager to have sex guys. Well, as far as I am concerned I would never fall in that trap. If the girl I am supposed to meet is not the one on the photo, I am off to greener pastures. Apparently this "girl" speaks english and is recent on the site so I am going to give it a try.[/QUOTE]Tavares,

I'm going to give you some advice, and I'm offering it to you in the friendliest and most respectful way possible: there is no need to worry about sex clubs, sex parties, or whether or not pictures of girls shown on obscure websites are real or fake. A monger traveling to SPB, especially a first-timer, needs only to remember one word: salon. There have been several reports written in this forum about salons in SPB, especially from Cucumber, myself, and others. Salons are a great introduction to mongering in SPB, and should be a monger's first choice for SPB.

Now you might ask yourself, "are the girls shown on the salon websites the actual girls available?" And the answer to that question is yes. Think about it: salons are actual brick-and-mortar locations that overwhelmingly serve a Russian clientele. If salons post fake pictures or advertise girls that really aren't available, they will rapidly lose their credibility and clientele. So it's absolutely in a salon's best interest to be honest about the girls available for their clients to enjoy on a day-to-day basis.

I'm not a SPB mongering expert. For my first-time trip to Russia and SPB in June of this year, all I did was RTFF, take notes, and do my own research. I think I was pretty successful, and I enjoyed my time in SPB, mongering and otherwise.

At the end of the day, it's your money and you have the right to spend it however you see fit. But for yourself and others heading to SPB for mongering, I encourage you to start with salons. Learn their locations, their entry procedures, their websites, and the girls that they offer. Once you've mastered the salons, then you can branch off into sex clubs, sex parties, and girls offered by obscure websites (which is easy to do if you live in Europe or the United Kingdom because SPB is a short flight away when compared to someone who lives in the United States).

And regardless if your mongering efforts in SPB are huge successes or epic failures, please be sure to contribute trip reports, as that is how we all learn and stay informed. Good luck to you and everyone else reading this and heading to SPB for mongering.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2119092]Tavares,

I'm going to give you some advice, and I'm offering it to you in the friendliest and most respectful way possible: there is no need to worry about sex clubs, sex parties, or whether or not pictures of girls shown on obscure websites are real or fake. A monger traveling to SPB, especially a first-timer, needs only to remember one word: salon. There have been several reports written in this forum about salons in SPB, especially from Cucumber, myself, and others. Salons are a great introduction to mongering in SPB, and should be a monger's first choice for SPB.[/QUOTE]Salons: google nesabudki-spb, kurtizanki-spb, markiza-spb, karamelki-spb. Prices as advertised. Russian language skills help. Salons try to hire concierges who speak English on the phone to widen their customer base. Sometimes they hand the phone to the one girl who speaks English on the shift. Often it can be tough to find the salons I. E. To understand directions w / o Russian language skills. The requests for sex parties seem nonsensical to me. I woul dworry about smart phone cameras and blackmail. The salons offer a safe framework for young, pretty girls to make money and for their clients to enjoy. The key is discretion. Services as advertised. Most girls in the salons have stories of being raised poor with no father as provider but a caring mother. The girls simply quintuple their waitress salary by working for a year or two in the salons. Most speak no English. Most have no steady boyfriend and are disappointed in their age peers. If you have got game and speak Russian, plenty of opportunity to meet very pretty, young and horny companions in the salons. They truely enjoy the unbearable lightness of sleeping with a smart and wealthy foreigner from time to time. Gifts and money are the aphrodisiacs, but carnal pleasure is an ingredient for them. The smart ones do not mind keeping their johns coming for repeats by allowing CIF and giving BBBJ and anilingus. I met some very nice girls in the salons and ask them to join me for an evening of sex in a hotel w / o resorting to the salons. They share their cell phone no number if they trust you. I pay salon rate, but they get to keep 100%. That plus a safe enjoyable experience including their orgasm keeps them coming for returns. Better sex for them than with their peer age Russians. Better money. And for sure better sex for me than in any other country.

There is a large supply if independents in SPB. I would not use this channel as a newbie. There are those girls who did not make it in the salons. Ugly. Not stable. Would avoid. There are expensive girls, true beauties, with real and exceptional photos. These girls want to avoid the grind of the salons where they will have to sleep with 10 johns per day for 2500 rubel (40 us dollars) per hour, which is half of what the salon charges. The difficulty is how to distinguish between former and latter. Again salons are a good way to find very young and pretty girls who Have proven their natural horniness by joining this venue of work and who will gladly give you their phone number to meet in a hotel for great sex and mutual multiple satisfaction fir an agreed gift. That is part of the essence if Russia.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2119726]There is a large supply if independents in SPB. I would not use this channel as a newbie. There are those girls who did not make it in the salons. Ugly. Not stable. Would avoid. There are expensive girls, true beauties, with real and exceptional photos. These girls want to avoid the grind of the salons where they will have to sleep with 10 johns per day for 2500 rubel (40 us dollars) per hour, which is half of what the salon charges. The difficulty is how to distinguish between former and latter. Again salons are a good way to find very young and pretty girls who Have proven their natural horniness by joining this venue of work and who will gladly give you their phone number to meet in a hotel for great sex and mutual multiple satisfaction fir an agreed gift. That is part of the essence if Russia.[/QUOTE]Right Philosophus, what I don't understand is what is the point of publishing photos of girls that in the end are not available, like, according to Khan, that Rita I mentioned before.

It is not because someone else will show up in her place that I am going to oblige and be with someone I don't feel like.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2119895]Right Philosophus, what I don't understand is what is the point of publishing photos of girls that in the end are not available, like, according to Khan, that Rita I mentioned before.

It is not because someone else will show up in her place that I am going to oblige and be with someone I don't feel like.[/QUOTE]Hi Tavares,

Beats me. I have little time or patience to search such sites, but what I have seen were photos of nude models that swirl around the net (met-art etc.) which were pasted in advertisements for escorts. Maybe some guys fall for this. Maybe the sites are short of other photos. The porn industry on the web offshores the layout of sites to places like India. Nobody really wastes time illustrating the sites if you pay merely a few rupees to have them done. Romantic services are in a way like music: Cheap is the broadcast. Expensive is the live performance. But there is nothing' like live.

P.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2119895]Right Philosophus, what I don't understand is what is the point of publishing photos of girls that in the end are not available, like, according to Khan, that Rita I mentioned before.

It is not because someone else will show up in her place that I am going to oblige and be with someone I don't feel like.[/QUOTE]If you behave like that it does not mean everyone else does. Some people cannot resist their desire to have sex right now, even if they are being fooled. You can also expect other ways of scamming:

- You would be asked for prepay upon arrival. After prepay your calls will be blocked (it is quite a common scam in SPb).

- Your call would be recorded along with you phone number would be later used for blackmail.

It took me 5 minutes to find other photos of "Rita" photo set where she is having sex with a guy, so it is an obvious amateur porn example. There are a lot of scam stories in this thread, some of them are quite dangerous. Why would anyone fall into scam, when is is obvious from the very beginning?

[QUOTE=Khan99;2119940]If you behave like that it does not mean everyone else does. Some people cannot resist their desire to have sex right now, even if they are being fooled. You can also expect other ways of scamming:

- You would be asked for prepay upon arrival. After prepay your calls will be blocked (it is quite a common scam in SPb).

- Your call would be recorded along with you phone number would be later used for blackmail.

It took me 5 minutes to find other photos of "Rita" photo set where she is having sex with a guy, so it is an obvious amateur porn example. There are a lot of scam stories in this thread, some of them are quite dangerous. Why would anyone fall into scam, when is is obvious from the very beginning?[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right Khan. Better to stay away from those scams. Anyway I would never accept indulging in prepays nor would I call unknown phone numbers from my private phone. As Philosophus says, better stick to salons and then reach a side agreement with the girls you fancy.

Thank you all.

Good advice and good writing.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2119092]Tavares,

I'm going to give you some advice, and I'm offering it to you in the friendliest and most respectful way possible: there is no need to worry about sex clubs, sex parties, or whether or not pictures of girls shown on obscure websites are real or fake. A monger traveling to SPB, especially a first-timer, needs only to remember one word: salon. There have been several reports written in this forum about salons in SPB, especially from Cucumber, myself, and others. Salons are a great introduction to mongering in SPB, and should be a monger's first choice for SPB.

Now you might ask yourself, "are the girls shown on the salon websites the actual girls available?" And the answer to that question is yes. Think about it: salons are actual brick-and-mortar locations that overwhelmingly serve a Russian clientele. If salons post fake pictures or advertise girls that really aren't available, they will rapidly lose their credibility and clientele. So it's absolutely in a salon's best interest to be honest about the girls available for their clients to enjoy on a day-to-day basis..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2051279]Hey fellas,


4) Nezabudki location near Nevsky Forum Hotel:

The address is 63 Nevsky Prospekt, which is a 30-second walk from the hotel. The square arch of this building (directly across the street from a restaurant called Marketplace) also has a heavy black wrought iron gate at the entrance, but it's always left open, possibly because it's damaged. Pass through the arch and walk straight across the small courtyard towards a solid steel black door with a black and white "Image Salon by Ivonin" sign next to it. Dial 16 on the keypad. The phone will ring, the madam will answer, and just say "Nezabudki" (pronounced neh zeh BOOD key). When the door buzzes open, enter and climb the stairs to the second floor and apartment 16. The madam will either be waiting for you with the door open or you'll have to knock gently a couple of times. The procedure is the same as Markiza: slippers, presentation of girls in a bedroom, shower, session, shower, leave.
[/QUOTE]The field reports that I read on this site were very informative, especially Quagmire's report which was a huge help.

By luck my work put me up in Corinthia hotel, which is right next to Nevsky Hotel. So the massage salon that you described was also a 30 second walk from my hotel. More importantly, the description on how to enter the building was spot on and I followed your instructions word for word and it was much easier then expected.

I checked out their website but didn't put too much importance on the pics as from my experience, everything you read online is BS. I just walked to the place and rang the doorbell, the women that answered spoke English and she made me feel quite comfortable. Just as explained I was asked to take my shoes off and then was led to a room where the girls came in one by one to introduce themselves. To tell you the truth, the girls were not so great, the best was a 7 which I chose. No idea about the name but she was Asian looking and after my shower we enjoyed a great time. I wanted to return the next day for another round but I just didn't have the time.

Thank you for all the information on here and I can't wait to go back for round 2. If anyone needs information regarding the massage salons, read Quagmire's report and follow the instructions. Easy!

[QUOTE=Chilaxin;2124839]The field reports that I read on this site were very informative, especially Quagmire's report which was a huge help.

By luck my work put me up in Corinthia hotel, which is right next to Nevsky Hotel. So the massage salon that you described was also a 30 second walk from my hotel. More importantly, the description on how to enter the building was spot on and I followed your instructions word for word and it was much easier then expected.

I checked out their website but didn't put too much importance on the pics as from my experience, everything you read online is BS. I just walked to the place and rang the doorbell, the women that answered spoke English and she made me feel quite comfortable. Just as explained I was asked to take my shoes off and then was led to a room where the girls came in one by one to introduce themselves. To tell you the truth, the girls were not so great, the best was a 7 which I chose. No idea about the name but she was Asian looking and after my shower we enjoyed a great time. I wanted to return the next day for another round but I just didn't have the time.

Thank you for all the information on here and I can't wait to go back for round 2. If anyone needs information regarding the massage salons, read Quagmire's report and follow the instructions. Easy![/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your kind words. This is the nicest endorsement that I've ever gotten on ISG. I was starting to think that my trip reports were just going off into a black hole, never to be seen again!

As anyone can see from my trip reports (Medellin, Budapest, Trinidad and Tobago, etc) I try to be very specific about the details of my mongering. I'll talk about the girls I laid but I'll also discuss how to find them and access where they're located. I believe that if a guy goes into a mongering situation relaxed, he'll have a better time and make smarter decisions. I had butterflies the size of a 787 Dreamliner when I visited the salons in SPB, but luckily, reading Cucumber's (and others) reports here in the SPB forum made me more relaxed and made the mongering experience more fun.

Thanks again for your kind words. More importantly, thank you for making a contribution to this forum. Looking forward to reading the reports of your additional SPB mongering adventures.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2125090]Thank you very much for your kind words. This is the nicest endorsement that I've ever gotten on ISG. I was starting to think that my trip reports were just going off into a black hole, never to be seen again!

As anyone can see from my trip reports (Medellin, Budapest, Trinidad and Tobago, etc) I try to be very specific about the details of my mongering. I'll talk about the girls I laid but I'll also discuss how to find them and access where they're located. I believe that if a guy goes into a mongering situation relaxed, he'll have a better time and make smarter decisions. I had butterflies the size of a 787 Dreamliner when I visited the salons in SPB, but luckily, reading Cucumber's (and others) reports here in the SPB forum made me more relaxed and made the mongering experience more fun.

Thanks again for your kind words. More importantly, thank you for making a contribution to this forum. Looking forward to reading the reports of your additional SPB mongering adventures.[/QUOTE]I for one think that your approach to detailing the logistics of our mongering escapades are much more important than descriptions of the girls or the services that were offered. The most important aspect of having a good time with a girl relies on the specific unique chemistry between the 2 people. Reading about the services that were given or the looks of the girls are all subjective. A 9 in my books could be a 7 in yours or vice versa, or the chemistry that I had with a girl due to a similar history might increase the chances of getting the girl in the right mood.

I also get nervous sometimes when sourcing out and entering new salons when I do not have too much information to go by. Your description of the SPB salon was so precise, it felt like I had been there before and I was much less nervous than usual, which added to the whole experience.

My other escapades in spb involved Tinder. I met a cute 20 year old and we had some dinner and she came back to my hotel for the night. I ended up giving her 10,000 rubles for her "taxi" which she gladly accepted. I hope to be back and try out the other salons.

Stay safe out there people and wishing everyone a great 2018!

[QUOTE=Chilaxin;2125228]I for one think that your approach to detailing the logistics of our mongering escapades are much more important than descriptions of the girls or the services that were offered. The most important aspect of having a good time with a girl relies on the specific unique chemistry between the 2 people. Reading about the services that were given or the looks of the girls are all subjective. A 9 in my books could be a 7 in yours or vice versa, or the chemistry that I had with a girl due to a similar history might increase the chances of getting the girl in the right mood.

I also get nervous sometimes when sourcing out and entering new salons when I do not have too much information to go by. Your description of the SPB salon was so precise, it felt like I had been there before and I was much less nervous than usual, which added to the whole experience.

My other escapades in spb involved Tinder. I met a cute 20 year old and we had some dinner and she came back to my hotel for the night. I ended up giving her 10,000 rubles for her "taxi" which she gladly accepted. I hope to be back and try out the other salons.

Stay safe out there people and wishing everyone a great 2018![/QUOTE]Chilaxin,

Couldn't agree with you more, in particular about the wealth of details Quagmire spoiled us with! You are absolutely right about what really matters when providing details about mongering escapades.

During the last years I watched a lot of movies with Russian porn actresses on the Internet. From the very beginning Irina Bruni, aka Ashley, was one of my favourites. Her eyes, her Slavic cheekbones, her voice but also her long legs, great breasts, perfect ass and the rest of her divine figure, there is nothing I do not like about her. The naughty and sparking glance in her eyes are simply irresistible. Just check some of the hundreds of video clips of her which are freely available online and you will probably understand at least some of my fascination for her.

I was surprised and extremely happy to find out lately via the international escort directory [URL]https://www.slavic-companions.com/[/URL] she is also into escort business. Her profile can be found here: [URL]https://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/st-petersburg-escorts-call-girls/irina-brunita[/URL].

Besides international tours she offers paid dates in St. Petersburg and Moscow. I had the firm desire to meet her and when I was for business in St. Petersburg I seized.

Immediately the opportunity to see her. Luckily she was also in St. Petersburg and she responded quickly to my messages in Whatsapp. Since I stayed with colleagues in same hotel I did not dare to invite her to my place. Incall meetings in her place are not possible with her but instead she recommended a hotel, centrally located in the Petrogradskaya district nearby the metro station with same name. It's a kind of love hotel where couples can meet and which offers the possibility to rent rooms per hour.

At the agreed time she waited me outside the hotel. From the very first moment I saw her in her sexy orange dress I felt at ease and knew it would be great. She was still as beautiful as in the many videos I have seen of her. There was good chemistry from the beginning. She's incredibly sweet, patient, easy and sexy as hell. I do not believe I have ever kissed so much and so passionately during a meeting. It started with delicious caressing, kissing, and fingering. Her beautiful nipples grew rapidly under my hands, and I felt her wetness slowly appearing. When she went down on me for oral pleasures I could also explore with my tongue the sweet zones deep down between her long legs. Even when she. Shivering and groaning softly. Came on my tongue, she kept sucking me in a heavenly way. Then we switched to cowgirl style and it was remarkable how quickly and imperceptibly she had applied a condom. But not before she rubbed me carefully and nicely with her wet pussy. She rode me wonderfully and in answer to my question she whispered in my ear that several orgasms were allowed. When I heard that I stopped holding my orgasms and I gave myself over to her. It was a total surrender and my orgasm was heavenly intense. I honestly do not remember that it was that deeply before, Perhaps it was also because I had not had sex for long time but it was definitely also due to her great skills and amazing looks. During the break we continued cuddling, petting, and chatting. We also finished two bottles of wine and smoked a lot. She speaks excellent English, is very talkative and witty. And we had a lot of travel experiences and interests in common, which contributed to the great match we had.

In the second round we started with great anal sex, god she is so tight in all her holes. And it was finalised by a great oral session with lots of saliva and lovely jerking off. I came to a very good second orgasm without any problems. I was a bit stunned and overwhelmed. It was the ultimate GFE with all the kissing and cuddling. But with a pornstar!

There is only one downside to this experience: the chance that all new encounters will be disappointing is significant. How well my previous experiences were, I have only very rarely decided to meet the same lady for a second time. I am always looking for a new thrill after all. But Irina Bruni, I'm really going to see you again, that's for sure, and not only online but also 4 real.

All, thanks for the contributions. Checking the salon websites helps, for the body data is usually honest and real. Yes you can go spontaneously go to a salon, but you are risking the experience of Chilaxin, who could not find better than a seven at Nesabudki. If you prepare and call in, you run a better chance to find something to your taste. I prefer sleeping with 18 to 24 year olds, and they must be petite and slim if possible. My hit rate when scouting for new talent to find a girl I find exciting its about 60%, despite or because of my prior research. The poor experiences, the 40%m, are there. The thick makeup, the mechanical, the unfathomably untalented. But they are soon forgotten. They are comic in a sense. From the 60% I recruit the girls I sleep with several times. Generosity and giving gifts is a sure way to get the girls horny and to have them hand over their cell phone number. Simply the best aphrodisiac. Anonymity and discretion, of course, is key. The porn star experience is not for me. Older ladies. Silicone. Ridiculous prices. Materially spoiled. Sometimes spoiled by their experiences. Anal is fun to watch in porn if the model is young and pretty, but not really becoming when with are real girl in your room. Irina Bruni was great without silicone 10 years ago. Superb photos of a wonderfully healthy girl. I wish her luck, but am not tempted.

[QUOTE=KnightRob100;2126071]During the last years I watched a lot of movies with Russian porn actresses on the Internet. From the very beginning Irina Bruni, aka Ashley, was one of my favourites. Her eyes, her Slavic cheekbones, her voice but also her long legs, great breasts, perfect ass and the rest of her divine figure, there is nothing I do not like about her. The naughty and sparking glance in her eyes are simply irresistible. Just check some of the hundreds of video clips of her which are freely available online and you will probably understand at least some of my fascination for her.

I was surprised and extremely happy to find out lately via the international escort directory [URL]https://www.slavic-companions.com/[/URL] she is also into escort business. Her profile can be found here: [URL]https://www.slavic-companions.com/international-erotic-services-nightlife/russia/st-petersburg-escorts-call-girls/irina-brunita[/URL].

Besides international tours she offers paid dates in St. Petersburg and Moscow. I had the firm desire to meet her and when I was for business in St. Petersburg I seized.

Immediately the opportunity to see her. Luckily she was also in St. Petersburg and she responded quickly to my messages in Whatsapp. Since I stayed with colleagues in same hotel I did not dare to invite her to my place. Incall meetings in her place are not possible with her but instead she recommended a hotel, centrally located in the Petrogradskaya district nearby the metro station with same name. It's a kind of love hotel where couples can meet and which offers the possibility to rent rooms per hour.

At the agreed time she waited me outside the hotel. From the very first moment I saw her in her sexy orange dress I felt at ease and knew it would be great. She was still as beautiful as in the many videos I have seen of her. There was good chemistry from the beginning. She's incredibly sweet, patient, easy and sexy as hell. I do not believe I have ever kissed so much and so passionately during a meeting. It started with delicious caressing, kissing, and fingering. Her beautiful nipples grew rapidly under my hands, and I felt her wetness slowly appearing. When she went down on me for oral pleasures I could also explore with my tongue the sweet zones deep down between her long legs. Even when she. Shivering and groaning softly. Came on my tongue, she kept sucking me in a heavenly way. Then we switched to cowgirl style and it was remarkable how quickly and imperceptibly she had applied a condom. But not before she rubbed me carefully and nicely with her wet pussy. She rode me wonderfully and in answer to my question she whispered in my ear that several orgasms were allowed. When I heard that I stopped holding my orgasms and I gave myself over to her. It was a total surrender and my orgasm was heavenly intense. I honestly do not remember that it was that deeply before, Perhaps it was also because I had not had sex for long time but it was definitely also due to her great skills and amazing looks. During the break we continued cuddling, petting, and chatting. We also finished two bottles of wine and smoked a lot. She speaks excellent English, is very talkative and witty. And we had a lot of travel experiences and interests in common, which contributed to the great match we had.

In the second round we started with great anal sex, god she is so tight in all her holes. And it was finalised by a great oral session with lots of saliva and lovely jerking off. I came to a very good second orgasm without any problems. I was a bit stunned and overwhelmed. It was the ultimate GFE with all the kissing and cuddling. But with a pornstar!

There is only one downside to this experience: the chance that all new encounters will be disappointing is significant. How well my previous experiences were, I have only very rarely decided to meet the same lady for a second time. I am always looking for a new thrill after all. But Irina Bruni, I'm really going to see you again, that's for sure, and not only online but also 4 real.[/QUOTE]KnightRob100.

I daresay many of us mongers are very curious to learn how much did she charge you...

[QUOTE=Tavares;2126629]KnightRob100.

I daresay many of us mongers are very curious to learn how much did she charge you...[/QUOTE]I will be very surprised if you receive a response from KnightRob100. His first, and only other, post to ISG was back in 2016 in the Moscow forum where he name-dropped numerous websites and escort directories and encouraged ISG members to visit them. His post in the SPB forum is nearly the same thing.

For mongering in SPB, remember: salon, salon, salon.

[QUOTE=Quagmire1974;2126975]I will be very surprised if you receive a response from KnightRob100. His first, and only other, post to ISG was back in 2016 in the Moscow forum where he name-dropped numerous websites and escort directories and encouraged ISG members to visit them. His post in the SPB forum is nearly the same thing.

For mongering in SPB, remember: salon, salon, salon.[/QUOTE]Yes, it looked to me as a fake story.

I am not naïf and I am fully aware this very positive review might look suspicious after my long silence here. So yes I understand the sceptical attitude of some readers. I love this site but I am afraid I am more a reader than a writer. But more important: after my first post a few years ago I was again in short term relationship and when I am seeing someone I tend to stay away from mongering activities even if these relationships are not meant to stay, unfortunately.

To get back to the concrete question I can inform you this encounter was indeed not cheap: I think at least 350 euro and also paid around 50 for the room and the wine I ordered from the reception but it was all in all more than 2 hours, and sorry to say but it was worth every single rubble.

And yes, reading back my words I acknowledge they appear too exaggerated and strong. But sorry to say I always liked her looks and movie performances. So for me it was really a big treat to meet her for real. I was afraid she might behave like a diva or she do her programme very much on the automatic pilot, being in adult movie business already some years. But the opposite is true, she is polite, cute and very laid back.

For those with doubts: all I can say is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. So I dare the ones who not believe, to contact Irina directly in whatsapp you will find out that she is responsive and will be open to escort outcall meetings. It's not strange because after all I know more Russian x-stars (Aruna Aghora, Taissa Shanti) who do escort tours so now and then. Actually Shanti I also met not so long ago, it was on a business trip to Brussels where she was staying in a hotel in the centre during. It was not bad but I definitely missed the passion I encountered with Irina Bruni.

I am just not sure if Irina is in Petersburg now, because she seems to travel back and forwards to Moscow (she likes Moscow much more she told me, although she is a real Piter girl). And she will also go on tours to Italy in the new year if I remember well.

Again I understand the sceptical comments I am facing but what more can I do to convince the criticasters? This was not a wild dream but real and again if you want to verify if I am writing nonsense you are only one message from her in Whatsapp away.

I dare to say that those who will meet Irina Bruni will not regret and maybe others will confirm this in this forum after seeing her. I rest my case.

[QUOTE=Tavares;2126629]KnightRob100.

I daresay many of us mongers are very curious to learn how much did she charge you...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KnightRob100;2128207]I am not naf and I am fully aware this very positive review might look suspicious after my long silence here. So yes I understand the sceptical attitude of some readers. I love this site but I am afraid I am more a reader than a writer. But more important: after my first post a few years ago I was again in short term relationship and when I am seeing someone I tend to stay away from mongering activities even if these relationships are not meant to stay, unfortunately.

To get back to the concrete question I can inform you this encounter was indeed not cheap: I think at least 350 euro and also paid around 50 for the room and the wine I ordered from the reception but it was all in all more than 2 hours, and sorry to say but it was worth every single rubble.

And yes, reading back my words I acknowledge they appear too exaggerated and strong. But sorry to say I always liked her looks and movie performances. So for me it was really a big treat to meet her for real. I was afraid she might behave like a diva or she do her programme very much on the automatic pilot, being in adult movie business already some years. But the opposite is true, she is polite, cute and very laid back.

For those with doubts: all I can say is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. So I dare the ones who not believe, to contact Irina directly in whatsapp you will find out that she is responsive and will be open to escort outcall meetings. It's not strange because after all I know more Russian x-stars (Aruna Aghora, Taissa Shanti) who do escort tours so now and then. Actually Shanti I also met not so long ago, it was on a business trip to Brussels where she was staying in a hotel in the centre during. It was not bad but I definitely missed the passion I encountered with Irina Bruni.

I am just not sure if Irina is in Petersburg now, because she seems to travel back and forwards to Moscow (she likes Moscow much more she told me, although she is a real Piter girl). And she will also go on tours to Italy in the new year if I remember well.

Again I understand the sceptical comments I am facing but what more can I do to convince the criticasters? This was not a wild dream but real and again if you want to verify if I am writing nonsense you are only one message from her in Whatsapp away.

I dare to say that those who will meet Irina Bruni will not regret and maybe others will confirm this in this forum after seeing her. I rest my case.[/QUOTE]KnightRob100, what about russian porn star Geizer?

Spent another evening with Dasha in the hotel suite. So pretty. So tiny. So cute. So immaculately dressed. So untalented in bed. Her body is a sight to behold, but she is awkward. She really enjoys seeing me, she likes my massage, and she likes to come. But her agility and skill when caressing a man or giving a blowjob leaves much to be asked. I made the best of it and asked her to follow instructions. Make braids to look even younger: She is so cute, beautiful body, 22 y without braids, 1, 62, 46 kg, beautiful dark long hair. I undressed her and then gave her a very nice black / white summer dress, which she loved. I asked her to put it on but to bare her breasts and keep her legs open to reveal her beautiful shaven vag while she was working my dick with her hands. Eventually I asked her that I wanted to cum on her face, laid her on her back, fed my dick to her mouth, and ejaculated gloriously over her hair, eyes and mouth. She took it in stride but was soon off to the bathroom. I then laid her on her back, undressed her fully and gave her a leg massage, followed by cuni and finger penetration until she came in a beautiful orgasmic wave. A second session ensued, where I got hard again watching her beautiful vag and breasts while she stared intently at me while working my penis with her hands. I grabbed a condom and penetrated her with the dress on, legs up. Very beautiful sight. I got limp though as condoms are not so pleasant. Throated her with her on her belly and then came again in her face. She was happy and so was I. She left after 3 hours. She clearly wants to meet again, for the money and for her climax. She is a student of engineering but does not really like the subject. She enjoyed herself and keeps sending whattsapp.

Good afternoon to all,

Me and my wife will comes in Saint Petersburg. For your experience is possible for a married couple goes to salon, in that case which one you can suggest to us? And also we tried to use.

This two website [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/saint-petersburg/page-2[/URL] , [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/showgirls.php?dev=26645[/URL] but noone seems to have whatsapp. Are this two website reliable?. Also may we know if Belmond hotel is girls friendly, o is better W St. Petersburg voznesenky. I'm really sorry for lot of questions. Thank to everyone for help us.

[QUOTE=Ikima;2136604]Good afternoon to all,

Me and my wife will comes in Saint Petersburg. For your experience is possible for a married couple goes to salon, in that case which one you can suggest to us? And also we tried to use.

This two website [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/saint-petersburg/page-2[/URL] , [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/showgirls.php?dev=26645[/URL] but noone seems to have whatsapp. Are this two website reliable?. Also may we know if Belmond hotel is girls friendly, o is better W St. Petersburg voznesenky. I'm really sorry for lot of questions. Thank to everyone for help us.[/QUOTE]Please RTFF, as there has been much discussion here lately and in the past regarding salons and websites.

Also, nearly all of your posts on ISG are you asking questions. When you and your wife return from St. Petersburg, please contribute a trip report if you monger.

Well, regarding your request, most salons provide such services, although the last married couple report I've read was some years ago. For instance you can look at [URL]http://karamelki.net/girls/[/URL] just filter Services by [I]Uslugi semejnoj pare[/I]. I would recommend Renata, a joyful liberated young girl, with lots of services to offer. But off course I've visited her alone.

As for these websites, Quagmire1974 is right, there have been an evolving discussion lately. But really, 60 eur / h for a couple of model looking girls with vast choice of additional services? SPb is definitely a good destination for mongering, but not a fucking fairyland.

[QUOTE=Ikima;2136604]Good afternoon to all,

Me and my wife will comes in Saint Petersburg. For your experience is possible for a married couple goes to salon, in that case which one you can suggest to us? And also we tried to use.

This two website [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/saint-petersburg/page-2[/URL] , [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/showgirls.php?dev=26645[/URL] but noone seems to have whatsapp. Are this two website reliable?. Also may we know if Belmond hotel is girls friendly, o is better W St. Petersburg voznesenky. I'm really sorry for lot of questions. Thank to everyone for help us.[/QUOTE]

Greetings fellow hobbyists,

It's been a while since I contributed a report on ISG so I thought I'd break the drought.

I had a free afternoon here in snowy St. Petersburg and I've been meaning to try out the places that Quagmire1974 wrote about a few months ago- Nezabudki on Nevsky Prospekt and Mariza on the Fontanka Canal. I'd like to thank Quagmire for his report and his perfect directions. I've attached some photos for each establishment- first of the entrance to each courtyard, then the door entrance, and finally the bedroom for each place (Nezabudki- Nevsky Prospekt first and then Mariza- Fontanka). Hopefully, this will help some mongers out there further find these places, however, Quagmire's directions are so good, I doubt you'll need the photos. Both places are not upscale at all.

Please note that I checked these places in the early afternoon on a Saturday. I first went to Nezabudki, located in the courtyard right across the street from Marketplace restaurant (please note there are several Marketplace restaurants throughout St. Pete so make sure you don't confuse them if using as a landmark). I arrived around 1:45 pm and was led into a bedroom just as Quagmire mentioned. I was shown 3 women, however, none were very appealing (on my rating scale two were "5's" and one possibly "6", although I am rather particular). They were heavier that I prefer. The lady working there said they charge 3500 rubles an hour (about USD $60) and that after 5 pm there would be a few more girls. When I told her what type of girl I was interested in (thin and late teens / early 20's), however, she said they wouldn't have anyone like that available until Monday.

Thus, I decided to pass on Nezabudki and I arrived at Mariza on the Fontanka Canal a little after 2 pm. Again, the directions by Quagmire were great and I was led into a bedroom again. I was shown 2 women who were substandard- I'd rate them as "4's". I was quite disappointed but the lady said it was too early and that more women would be working after 4 pm. As I was putting my shoes back on, the madam returned and said another girl was suddenly available. That's when Svetlana ([URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/fontanka-girl/1498064214[/URL]#!IMG_9003_12_09_17_17_49) came down and I figured she looked good (at least good enough). I'd rate her a generous "7. " Svetlana was very nice, had an ok face, and hot body. However, she's not a day under 35 years old and possibly older. It says in her profile that she is 27 (LOL! It was an ok experience- french kissing, covered BJ (didn't even try for uncovered), DATY, 69, cowgirl, doggy, and finishing missionary. The damage was 3000 rubles (about $51) and I tipped her another 500 rubles since he was pretty cool. She speaks some English.

Hopefully, I'll be able to contribute more in the future as I learn the "lay" of the land here in St. Petersburg. If anyone wants to hang out and visit some of these places let me know.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2139624]Greetings fellow hobbyists,

It's been a while since I contributed a report on ISG so I thought I'd break the drought.

I had a free afternoon here in snowy St. Petersburg and I've been meaning to try out the places that Quagmire1974 wrote about a few months ago- Nezabudki on Nevsky Prospekt and Mariza on the Fontanka Canal. I'd like to thank Quagmire for his report and his perfect directions. I've attached some photos for each establishment- first of the entrance to each courtyard, then the door entrance, and finally the bedroom for each place (Nezabudki- Nevsky Prospekt first and then Mariza- Fontanka). Hopefully, this will help some mongers out there further find these places, however, Quagmire's directions are so good, I doubt you'll need the photos. Both places are not upscale at all.[/QUOTE]Even though I uploaded the photos in order from #1 to #6, for some reason they were posted out of order. For clarification, I am adding a description of each photo (each photo is labeled 1 to 6):

Photo 1- Nezabudki looking into the courtyard.

Photo 2- Nezabudki front door.

Photo 3- Nezabudki bedroom.

Photo 4- Mariza looking into the courtyard.

Photo 5- Mariza front door.

Photo 6- Mariza bedroom.

Sorry for the confusion.

[QUOTE=Zippy;2139624]I had a free afternoon here in snowy St. Petersburg and I've been meaning to try out the places that Quagmire1974 wrote about a few months ago- Nezabudki on Nevsky Prospekt and Mariza on the Fontanka Canal. I'd like to thank Quagmire for his report and his perfect directions. I've attached some photos for each establishment- first of the entrance to each courtyard, then the door entrance, and finally the bedroom for each place (Nezabudki- Nevsky Prospekt first and then Mariza- Fontanka). Hopefully, this will help some mongers out there further find these places, however, Quagmire's directions are so good, I doubt you'll need the photos. Both places are not upscale at all.[/QUOTE]I will say to you what I said to Chilaxin a month ago: thank you very much for your kind words. I'm glad to see that the system I described back in June 2017 in my trip report is still in place.

And I absolutely tip my hat to you for your awesome pictures, as they are a great complement to my trip report. And this is the way the ISG forums are supposed to work. ISG member Cucumber and others laid the foundation by talking about salons in SPB. I RTFF, used their information to monger, and then brought back hyper-specific information in my trip report. You then took my information a step further and posted pictures, which, I have to say, made me feel like I was back in SPB.

I noticed that you mentioned in a previous post on ISG that you are actually living in SPB, having moved there in 2017. Frankly, I'm jealous, since SPB has multiple museums like the Hermitage, a wide variety of restaurants serving high-quality food, and an easy-to-access mongering scene. Being a resident of SPB, you have the very real potential of greatly expanding the knowledge base of mongering in the city. So my challenge to you is this: Markiza and Nezabudki have multiple locations across SPB, but I only described one of each in my trip report. If you could detail the other Markiza and Nezabudki locations in future trip reports, that would be awesome and would be a massive service to mongers heading to SPB.

Thank you again for your kind words and awesome pictures. Hope those hot Russian lasses help keep you warm through the cold and snowy SPB winter.

For those traveling to SPB or anywhere in Russia would like to recommend a good website for reviews. Although it's in Russian you will be able with some small effort to understand if the photos in other websites are genuine. There is always the help of google translate.

[URL]http://sextalk.xyz/postlist.php?Cat=0&Board=clsr_spb[/URL]

Somebody sent me a prive message asking som questions about petersburg. I have put them here so that everybody can benefit.

Early May should be a nice time in Petersburg. A lot of light but before the worst tourst crunch sets in. But be aware that even then hotel prices may shoot up and availabilty go down.

You definitely need a SIM card and its very easy to get. Get it at the airport so that its done with. Get one with a lot of data (10-20 GB) so that you can use it for navigation etc. And make sure it has high connection speed throughout the period you will use it.

I speak Russian so I am not so experienced when it comes to dealing with interpreting. Not all hotel staff will help you with such matters, they may be disgusted or just not service minded. So you would need to get lucky and friendly with someone.

Yes you definitely need a reliable English-speaking driver. If you found a good one he could replace hotel staff. I don't know anybody, but some smart Russian should get into this. It could be a great little business.

[QUOTE=KnightRob100;2128207]I am not naf and I am fully aware this very positive review might look suspicious after my long silence here. So yes I understand the sceptical attitude of some readers. I love this site but I am afraid I am more a reader than a writer. But more important: after my first post a few years ago I was again in short term relationship and when I am seeing someone I tend to stay away from mongering activities even if these relationships are not meant to stay, unfortunately.

To get back to the concrete question I can inform you this encounter was indeed not cheap: I think at least 350 euro and also paid around 50 for the room and the wine I ordered from the reception but it was all in all more than 2 hours, and sorry to say but it was worth every single rubble.

And yes, reading back my words I acknowledge they appear too exaggerated and strong. But sorry to say I always liked her looks and movie performances. So for me it was really a big treat to meet her for real. I was afraid she might behave like a diva or she do her programme very much on the automatic pilot, being in adult movie business already some years. But the opposite is true, she is polite, cute and very laid back.

For those with doubts: all I can say is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating. So I dare the ones who not believe, to contact Irina directly in whatsapp you will find out that she is responsive and will be open to escort outcall meetings. It's not strange because after all I know more Russian x-stars (Aruna Aghora, Taissa Shanti) who do escort tours so now and then. Actually Shanti I also met not so long ago, it was on a business trip to Brussels where she was staying in a hotel in the centre during. It was not bad but I definitely missed the passion I encountered with Irina Bruni.

I am just not sure if Irina is in Petersburg now, because she seems to travel back and forwards to Moscow (she likes Moscow much more she told me, although she is a real Piter girl). And she will also go on tours to Italy in the new year if I remember well.

Again I understand the sceptical comments I am facing but what more can I do to convince the criticasters? This was not a wild dream but real and again if you want to verify if I am writing nonsense you are only one message from her in Whatsapp away.

I dare to say that those who will meet Irina Bruni will not regret and maybe others will confirm this in this forum after seeing her. I rest my case.[/QUOTE]Irina was the best Russian with whom I stayed with. Although my expenses were much more less than yours and I met her multiple times in the past and always in Piter.

I was today in gini massage salon, its just a erotic massage place, no explcit sex service, I was with Diana, pretty blonde with small tits and very very smiley, was an excelent time with her, service beguins with clasic massage and then she turns to body body and erotic massage, excellent time with her and I plan to repeart next week.

[URL]http://ero-dginni.ru/en/[/URL]

Another massage experience, that time in [URL]https://www.spa-orchid.ru/en/[/URL] with a girl that is not listed, she is called Yana, she is more than 30, but excellent body, slim blonde and small breast, she did so well massage, the place has en extreme luxury, like a sultan saloon, they show you a book with pics of all the masseuses, but is easy to catch that there is lot of fotoshop in there, anyway Yana was also so pretty in person, massage finished with her washing me from the massage oil in shower, its much more expensive than Gini, but also place is much more luxurious.

The Salon. [URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/vstrechi[/URL].

Escort site [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/[/URL].

The price and quality of girls are quite good. Are those real?

[QUOTE=EyhWan09;2174661]The Salon. [URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/vstrechi[/URL].

Escort site [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/[/URL].

The price and quality of girls are quite good. Are those real?[/QUOTE]Markiza: absolutely real. Chain of brothels with a name to defend, largely local customer base. Photos are real. Age of the gals is embellished to the youngish side. Sessioned with a blonde stunner and with a Eurasian hottie from Markiza. Good experiences.

Rusprostitute: photos look largely fake to me. Some are fake with 100% confidence.

[QUOTE=EyhWan09;2174661]The Salon. [URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/vstrechi[/URL].

Escort site [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/[/URL].

The price and quality of girls are quite good. Are those real?[/QUOTE]You may also find their ads here.

[URL]http://a.rusdosug.com/indi250134.htm[/URL]

Dear fellow mongers I would like to share with you my bad experience in St Petersburg.

(This seems to be a Spb scam because in Moscow it never happened to me).

I was browsing on local Tinder when I matched with a gorgeous 29 year old girl. I am 50.

Very quickly she gave me her WhatsApp number and she told me that tonight she goes out for a drink with a female friend.

If I want I can join them.

As I am not so much into virtual chatting for hours I accepted. After all what did I risk?

They choose the place. A small, inexpensive looking bar at Fontanka River embarkment.

When I arrived at the bar, the girls were already having a cocktail. So I sat at the table and started to introduce myself.

They were pretty and dressed in jeans and t-shirt like two students. Nothing sexy. Nothing alarming.

The bar was almost empty. There was a student looking couple at a table having a beer.

After 5 min the waitress came and asked if I want to offer a bottle of wine to the girls.

Last night my buddy had a bad experience in a bar and paid 100 $ for a bottle of wine so I felt something is not right. It looked liked a similar scam.

So I stand up and apologized and said I have to leave now because there is an emergency.

At the exit the doorman said I have to pay my bill first.

I said but I didn't drink anything.

He said you have to pay for the girls. I said I don't know the girls I was just saying Hi to them.

He was basically asking 2 x2500 Rub (almost 100 $) for two cocktails.

Anyway to make things short the whole thing went for an hour.

The boss came in and said I have to pay. I threatened them that I will call the police, and even managed to call the tourist police, The policewoman was talking some english and asked me if I want her to send a police car to the bar.

At that point the one of the girls who I was supposed to meet came to me and said why I am ruining their evening etc. And I should not involve the police.

So I interrupted the call and tried to find a smooth exit of this situation.

After almost one hour, they accepted that I pay only one cocktail and leave.

Horrible experience!

So 5 min of chatting with two girls costed me 50 $ !

Beware! Choose yourself the bar where you meet with the girls. Don't seat at the table if you feel something is wrong.

[QUOTE=MarioVeneto;2182842]Dear fellow mongers I would like to share with you my bad experience in St Petersburg.

(This seems to be a Spb scam because in Moscow it never happened to me).[/QUOTE]Dude,

This is a well-known scam in many Eastern European countries. It's particularly bad in Budapest. Sorry you were scammed but I'm shocked you never heard of this before.

[QUOTE=MarioVeneto;2182842]Dear fellow mongers I would like to share with you my bad experience in St Petersburg.

(This seems to be a Spb scam because in Moscow it never happened to me).

I was browsing on local Tinder when I matched with a gorgeous 29 year old girl. I am 50.[/QUOTE]It's a shame you didn't read this forum before you visited SPB. If you had, you would have seen another monger post his Tinder experience in this forum back in mid-November, 2017. He even posted his sob story over on TripAdvisor.

In SPB, there's no reason to use Tinder, or Backpage, or Craigslist, or any other site where the potential to be scammed is high. For mongering in SPB, especially if you're a first-timer, remember only one word: salon, salon, salon.

[QUOTE=MarioVeneto;2182842]Dear fellow mongers I would like to share with you my bad experience in St Petersburg.

(This seems to be a Spb scam because in Moscow it never happened to me).

I was browsing on local Tinder when I matched with a gorgeous 29 year old girl. I am 50.

Very quickly she gave me her WhatsApp number and she told me that tonight she goes out for a drink with a female friend.

If I want I can join them.

As I am not so much into virtual chatting for hours I accepted. After all what did I risk?[/QUOTE]No scam at all. You just learned a lesson and paid for it. These so called scams are known probably for centuries. You can see many versions on Tinder. Just see the girls outside of your room at the nearest fast food chain. At least in your case you have not got a tranny or an aggressive pimp at your door.

St Petersburg is a great place to monger, for it is a large city with a huge student population. St Petersburg offers the anonymity the girls need and is not as monstrous or as expensive as Moscow.

Mario did the right thing. 2500 Rubel is a meager tuition fee for a silly mistake. 112 is the ubiquitous police number. Have the police come. In this domain Russia is ruled by law. The bar has more to lose than the tourist.

Mongering is St Petersburg is centered around the salons. Mamba ought to work. On Tinder I am not sure.

Karamelki draws pretty girls but no blow job without condom. The girls offer it anyway, secretly, at outrageous surcharge at Karamelki. Blowjob with condom is always included in the base rate in St Petersburg salons. The going surcharge outside Karamelki for blow job without condom is 1000 Rubel. The Russians say MBR. Including CIM or CIF it is 1500 Rubel. MBR do konza" or MBR to finish". I always insist on CIF, but not all girls go along. Since it is a safe practice, all smart girls go along, often also with deep throat, spreading the goo lavishly on their cute young faces, spitting, cum in hair etc. They may not like it, but they go along as the session unfolds, especially if you are tender with them, if they are inexperienced, if they seek you as a regular john or if there is real chemistry. I have enjoyed a lot of mutually deeply satisfying GFE with young, petite and pretty salon girls who I patronize regularly also outside the realm of the salon. This buttresses their salary. They build their pride often on how much their johns deem their worth which they equate with attractiveness, power, beauty or sexual skill. A cumshot in their smiling face or braided hair is a minor nuisance compared to the power this accords them. Many times the girl softens up after her first orgasm or second, so tenderness helps them to please you. Girls offering DFK are often GFE. I am no customer at Karamelki because the covered BJ only mentality starts the girls and the johns off with the wrong mindset.

Nezabudki has gems, so has Markiza and Lady VIP. The Lady salons lie blatantly on age and weight of the girls, which I find unacceptable. Not going there. I have had the greatest encounters with girls from Kurtizanki, which is located near Muzhestvo metro. I only pick Russian only speaking girls, as the English speakers have different earning options, do not sense the intense competition of the 1000's of young pretties who struggle scholastically and then resort to salon love work to continue with a well paying regular activity for a few years, where they get encouragement from their johns instead of exam fails and derision by their professors. This is one of the reasons why fellow mongers perceive Russia so differently. Speak English only and meet the spoiled drama queens. Learn Russian and tap the local talent which is willing to please, which is naturally horny, which is tired of getting bedded and dumped by like-aged countrymen who obviously do not pay, which usually is petite (tall types work the awful strip clubs) , slender (saves them money) and long haired (saves them money) and 22 years, which avoids the heavy make-up (saves them money), which comes in jeans and sneakers and without bra (saves them money and gives them anonymity) which enjoys their job, which enjoys the money and the promiscuity and the many great romantic experiences that come along. Stay safe. Be receptive to the young girls' needs, financially, emotionally and sexually.

I have been to a lot of salons here. The service is mostly good. It just seems very hard to find any stunners there, which you see in the city. The bodies are average. I have never seen anything exceptional (a latin booty, tatooed fitness model etc, the instagram model look).

Maybe you can only find this look in the premium priced escort services, I don't know? If you ever have to go to that horrible street, Dumskaya-Lomonsov, there are fantasy model dancers, and bar ladies there, who look absolute premium; tanned, latin asses, model faces. You will never have a chance with them, because their attitude is generally very rude towards guys who even think of trying to speak with them, whether it is inside or outside a club. (I have no idea who gets them.).

For me Tinder is useless. Badoo too. There are many beautiful women in St Petersburg, and Eastern Europe in general, as you can see on Instagram, and on the streets, which promote this fantasy sexual illusion. Many are mostly unattainable. Invariably they have a lot of attitude towards guys. Or there are many who often get taken to Dubai, Thailand, or the Maldives, by rich perverts.

P. S About the scam, posted earlier, yes it is horrible. It happened to almost every foreigner I met.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2183102]St Petersburg is a great place to monger, for it is a large city with a huge student population. St Petersburg offers the anonymity the girls need and is not as monstrous or as expensive as Moscow.

Mario did the right thing. 2500 Rubel is a meager tuition fee for a silly mistake. 112 is the ubiquitous police number. Have the police come. In this domain Russia is ruled by law. The bar has more to lose than the tourist.

Mongering is St Petersburg is centered around the salons. Mamba ought to work. On Tinder I am not sure... [/QUOTE]Well said Philosophus! So true. But the kind of Russian language skills required for the kind of interaction you are talking about is not something you pick up in a a couple of months. More like a couple of years.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2183953]I have been to a lot of salons here.[/QUOTE]Excellent. Do you have any information (trip reports) that you can share for the benefit of everyone who reads this forum?

How are Russian / salon girls towards black mongers and generally safety at night time? Do you guys see black guys in the salons for example?

I'm asking this because a friend of mine who's black would like to join to St. Petersburg but is apprehensive and none of us been to east-Europe before.

We are both well mannered men and would stay at nevsky area. I know Russian girls who live outside, say in West-Europe or Dubai are cool with black people but those are a bit more exposed to other races too.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2190322]How are Russian / salon girls towards black mongers and generally safety at night time? Do you guys see black guys in the salons for example?

I'm asking this because a friend of mine who's black would like to join to St. Petersburg but is apprehensive and none of us been to east-Europe before.

We are both well mannered men and would stay at nevsky area. I know Russian girls who live outside, say in West-Europe or Dubai are cool with black people but those are a bit more exposed to other races too.[/QUOTE]Salons are not like the casas in Medellin, where there's a communal area for mongers with girls parading around trying to attract clients. When you enter a salon, you're pretty much ushered into a bedroom right away. When I visited both salons in SPB, I never saw another client, but did see their shoes neatly arranged just inside the front door.

I felt safe in SPB. Keep in mind that if you go in the summer, say around this time of year, the sun doesn't set until about 11 at night and quickly rises again around 2 in the morning. Called the "White Nights," it is a good time to visit SPB because of the abundance of light and the generally good weather.

When I was in Budapest, I noticed several ads posted by WGs stating "no black guys" or "no dark-skin men. " Not sure if that mentality also applied to SPB and there's only one way to find out. If you and your friend are unsuccessful at mongering in SPB, at least you'll have the opportunity to visit a large city in Russia that has many sights to see and delicious food.

Please help out a brother. I tried called each of these girl in site you guys listed and it often link back to few same salon which I understand, but it always end with me 'English?' Lady over the phone 'No' and hang up on me. How should I proceed or at least get an address of the salon?

Thanks.

Hi friends,

Am in your beautiful city from 2nd July to 8th July. Help a brother out regarding mongering.

TIA.

[QUOTE=Liyzag1;2191348]Hi friends,

Am in your beautiful city from 2nd July to 8th July. Help a brother out regarding mongering.

TIA.[/QUOTE]All of the information you need to successfully monger in SPB is already written in this forum, so please read it before you ask additional questions. Also, the majority of your posts on ISG are questions and asking for help or contact information. If you successfully monger in SPB, please write a trip report and let us know what you encountered.

[QUOTE=Leelazen;2191205]Please help out a brother. I tried called each of these girl in site you guys listed and it often link back to few same salon which I understand, but it always end with me 'English?' Lady over the phone 'No' and hang up on me. How should I proceed or at least get an address of the salon?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]The addresses of the salons are listed on their websites. Simply go to a salon's website and plug the addresses listed on the website into Google Maps. Simple as that.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2189193]Well said Philosophus! So true. But the kind of Russian language skills required for the kind of interaction you are talking about is not something you pick up in a a couple of months. More like a couple of years.[/QUOTE]Yes it was a harsh lesson for me. Anyway strangely I never heard of this kind of scam before. My experience with Eastern Europe is limited to Ukraine, Russia and Poland only.

For the info the English speaking Police number in St Petersburg is +7 (812) 164 9787.

I always buy a local sim card for a couple of euros (300/500 RUB) as use it for 4 G internet and local calls for a week.

I will keep studying this forum to get some good salon names and locations.

Hey guys,

First, thanks for amazing and descriptive reports about mongering scene in SPB.

I am an Indian, 32 yrs old and the member of ISG from past 1 year (paid second annual payment yesterday).

I am travelling alone from 26th June - 3rd July, I was researching current conditions there (world cup time) and.

Was thinking if any other ISG member would be there on same time, feeling bit hesitant to travel in salons and stripe clubs alone, considering some strong racial issues there, read about it on Quora.

So if you are in SPB from 27th June, let me know.

And drinks on me!

Thanks!

Visited Markiza in St P on Fontanka [URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/fontanka-girl/1496400615[/URL]#!IMG_2769 and saw Aelita for 1 hour 3000 rb plus 1000 for CIM and 1000 without rubber. She was a stack of fun and was really into her job and making you feel comfortable. The showers and room were very clean and professional and the location was easy to find. There were two hot blondes on the front counter who I would easily choose next time.

Visited AM Royal and Grand during last two weeks. Lineup in Royal was much better. My friend went with Lera, who performs also in movies. Highly recommended! I went with Kristina twice due to the very good attitude. Other notables are Julia, Eva and Veronika. Will try them during the weekend. Damage 6 k per HR. Www InTimSpb Ru.

In st Petersburg from 28th July to 5th August. If anyone would like to meet for a drink and a chat. Guess after the football it will be a bit quieter.

[QUOTE=CraigDee;2203074]That's expensive but at least you know it's worth it than paying cheap price with terrible experience.[/QUOTE]I stayed only with Kristina and did not had a change to try the others. My friend went with Julia and was very satisfied. I am sorry but I do not consider to paying for that level to be expensive in Russian standards. For me it is well spent. Only problem as common in Russia is that some receptionist (at least one in Royal) are definitely in the wrong place. About them is a phrase in Russian: пиздит как дышет (lies as breathes).

I read up on the report about Markiza and the other salons. I figured I'the try the Markiza location along the river a few blocks off of Nevsky. The address is 67-69 Naberezhnaya Reki Fontanki. It is the street along the river. If you are coming from Nevsky it is immediately after a hair salon named PARK. You make a right into the archway with the big iron gate. There is a bell with a camera and a button with the drawing or a bell on it (not the one with the keypad on it). I rang the bell but did not have to speak, they rang me in. Once through the gate, go to the right into the courtyard. You will see another iron gate and through the gate is a door on the left that has a red and white sign for the Arlin Hotel (in Russian). That is Markiza.

I almost rang a bell on a different door when I made the right. After a minute or two the madam came out and invted me in. It was about 630 pm and she told me (in decent English) that there was only one girl. I waited in the bedroom to see the girl. The girl was very tall and kind of heavy. Not my taste at all so I told her I would come back. She said there would be 4 or 5 girls after 8 pm. Just as I am putting my shoes back on she says that one more girl is available and did I want to see her. I figured she would be a big girl like the last one, but I might as well look. The girl that came out was Rusalina. She is on the website and is probably my first pick from all the girls. She is 26 probably 5'3", 110 lbs and dirty blonde hair. She speaks almost no English, but I had a good time with her. It was 3000 are for 1 hour. I would definitely return to try some other girls or even repeat with her. Check the schedule on the website. Apparently it is accurate because when I asked Rusalina when she worked, she showed me the website schedule. Also, I was not able to see the website from my computer because it was blocked. I told her about this and she showed me that the address has changed to one that is not blocked in Russia. It is:[URL]http://markizaspb.club[/URL].

[QUOTE=Holden123;2183953]I have been to a lot of salons here. The service is mostly good. It just seems very hard to find any stunners there, which you see in the city. The bodies are average. I have never seen anything exceptional (a latin booty, tatooed fitness model etc, the instagram model look).

Maybe you can only find this look in the premium priced escort services, I don't know? If you ever have to go to that horrible street, Dumskaya-Lomonsov, there are fantasy model dancers, and bar ladies there, who look absolute premium; tanned, latin asses, model faces. You will never have a chance with them, because their attitude is generally very rude towards guys who even think of trying to speak with them, whether it is inside or outside a club. (I have no idea who gets them.).

For me Tinder is useless. Badoo too. There are many beautiful women in St Petersburg, and Eastern Europe in general, as you can see on Instagram, and on the streets, which promote this fantasy sexual illusion. Many are mostly unattainable. Invariably they have a lot of attitude towards guys. Or there are many who often get taken to Dubai, Thailand, or the Maldives, by rich perverts.

P. S About the scam, posted earlier, yes it is horrible. It happened to almost every foreigner I met.[/QUOTE]Same problem. And I'm Russian. Been to St Pete's a number of times, and it's always the same story; Hordes of 9's and 10's out in the streets. Only 5's and 6's in saloons / strip bars. Tinder is dead. Nice girls at some of the more central bars / karaoke places. But they're not for pick up.

Escort is where it's at; 15 k roubles (250) per hour and you get some real good stuff. Half of what prices for similar talent are in Moscow. Obviously, forget about GFE if you're with an escort (exceptions apply, charisma plays a huge role). One of the girls told me about an upscale bar / club that real stunners go to to get picked up for money. But I forget what it's called.

Nevertheless, if anyone knows any other place where you can go to get the best, irregardless of price, please share.

I tried to go to some Karamelki salons. One was a few blocks off Nevsky close to me but they did not speak English when I called. I called the one along the Fontanka River and luckily there was a girl, Tori, who spoke English and tried to give me directions. She said the address was 40 Fontanka but I was looking on the other side of Fontanka close to Markiza because there is a 40 Fontanka there also it seems. Anyway this place is right around the corner from Citibank on Nevsky. If you are coming from the direction of the main train station (from west to east along Nevsky) then make a right after Citibank onto the street that runs along the river. If you crossed the river, you went too far. Right around the corner from Citibank is a place called Pizza Milano or Milano Pizza. The gated archway after that is the entrance. The main gate has no lock so just walk right through. The address on the wall says 40/68 I believe. After going through the first gate, make the first left into another alleyway, then make a right. As you walk along this alley, on the right you will see these big wooden doors almost like a barn door. After the 2nd big wooden door, there is a regular metal door. This is the place. Hit 57 on the keypad and if they ask you something on the intercom just say Karamelki.

The first time I went there I took Tori who is a red head from Siberia. It was 4000 R for 1 hour. I didn't see a line up that day because I knew I wanted to go with Tori.

The next time I went, Tori wasn't there and I got to see the line up. There was about 7 or 8 girls there around 10:30 pm on a weekday. They were all dark hair and I like blondes. Anyway, I took Nicole who is 25 and also from Siberia. She had a look like Mila Kunis and spoke pretty good English. It was 4000 R again. Nothing great, nothing bad. The shower in the bathroom doesn't really work. Water just trickles out a bit. This place definitely has more girls on hand than Markiza on Fontanka though.

[QUOTE=KingKip3;2212464]Same problem. And I'm Russian. Been to St Pete's a number of times, and it's always the same story; Hordes of 9's and 10's out in the streets. Only 5's and 6's in saloons / strip bars. Tinder is dead. Nice girls at some of the more central bars / karaoke places. But they're not for pick up.

Escort is where it's at; 15 k roubles (250) per hour and you get some real good stuff. Half of what prices for similar talent are in Moscow. Obviously, forget about GFE if you're with an escort (exceptions apply, charisma plays a huge role). One of the girls told me about an upscale bar / club that real stunners go to to get picked up for money. But I forget what it's called.

Nevertheless, if anyone knows any other place where you can go to get the best, irregardless of price, please share.[/QUOTE]Do you know what websites I can look at for the escorts?

What about rusdoug? I have seen some stunners on there, but I really doubt that most of them are real.

Has anyone had any experience with girls from the rusdoug site here?

Visited Russia for the World Cup, got a spare time to spent a while after the world cup, Been to Markiza on the river banks. Someone earlier gave a very accurate instructions. Prices were probably the best I encountered after world cup. Because prices at world cup was crazily inflated. Met Sasha, she was a delight, willing to please. Almost no English, but google voice translation makes wonder we even chatter a bit, great GFE, lots of kissing and caressing, heavenly BJ and she also offered for me CIM. Overall it was my second best experience in SPB after a girl I met on tinder. Tinder worked for me pretty fine there. Some people didn't have luck but I guess I was quite lucky.

[QUOTE=GenieRiodan;2221129]Visited Russia for the World Cup, got a spare time to spent a while after the world cup, Been to Markiza on the river banks. Someone earlier gave a very accurate instructions. Prices were probably the best I encountered after world cup. Because prices at world cup was crazily inflated. Met Sasha, she was a delight, willing to please. Almost no English, but google voice translation makes wonder we even chatter a bit, great GFE, lots of kissing and caressing, heavenly BJ and she also offered for me CIM. Overall it was my second best experience in SPB after a girl I met on tinder. Tinder worked for me pretty fine there. Some people didn't have luck but I guess I was quite lucky.[/QUOTE]By the way, notica that if you got Fifa-visa for football, it is valid until end of the year. So you can still visit in Russia without any visa hassle.

Many people don't seem to know.

One of the girls told me about an upscale bar / club that real stunners go to to get picked up for money. But I forget what it's called.

Nevertheless, if anyone knows any other place where you can go to get the best, irregardless of price, please share.

[QUOTE=James006;2222040]One of the girls told me about an upscale bar / club that real stunners go to to get picked up for money. But I forget what it's called.

Nevertheless, if anyone knows any other place where you can go to get the best, irregardless of price, please share.[/QUOTE]No idea. But Rubinstein street has best looking girls, maybe. One kilometer street, it has many tens of bars and restaurant. If nothing else, you could try your luck in these places. Problem is, who is available for money and who is not. Everybody has so sexy clothes. Anybody know which bar working girls prefer in this street?

Spent a weekend in Piter littered with work. Had a girl come to my hotel room like always to help the passage of time while relaxing. This time I called Davida, the prettiest and sexually most reticent among my love girls. 1.62 m, 47 kg, small shapely breasts, did ballet and dance, worked in a top notch salon for a short time, where I met her 2 years ago. She was featured as the top girl in the photo section of this salon for a half a year, stunner. The salon grind was not for her, but she still ups her budget by sleeping with selected well off lovers, . Came in jeans, sneakers and T shirt, delectable, great taste in clothing. The room was not done, but this 23 yo does not mind to be seen with me, 30 why her senior, still in great shape. Sex in the air when maid and steward came to quickly make up the room, fully knowing what will happen to the young beauty as soon as they leave the door. Showered, sat with a towel over my abdomen across a mirror, placed her in sight, unbuttoned her jeans, looking for the most sexy view. Stripped her down slowly, what a sight. Sat her on my leg, parted her legs, paying intense attention to her vag, she came eventually strongly with loud moans. She relly enjoyed. For her it is not easy to come, even when alone. I then started to insert my dick in her mouth and face fucked her, laid her on the bed and penetrated her bare back. What a feeling, what a sight. Needed to pause repeatedly to avoid cumming. Eventually pulled out, back to the mirror, intense facefucking standing with slurps and sound and goo, a mirror on the floor revealing yet another pornographic angle on this lass, a true 9 or 10 for my taste. Laid her on the floor and came gloriously in her face and hair. So much sperm, what a sight. She does not mind at all as long as I enjoy. It was actually her 23rd birthday. A gift equivalent to 180 US $ For 2 h will surely make her meet me again.

Hi,

I call the salon couple of times on their location but could not get there because they simply do not speak English. Do anyone knows where is it located? The website did not state the address accurately.

I only know it's near to Galeria Shopping Mall.

[QUOTE=SpbTourist;2225871]Hi,

I call the salon couple of times on their location but could not get there because they simply do not speak English. Do anyone knows where is it located? The website did not state the address accurately.

I only know it's near to Galeria Shopping Mall.[/QUOTE]Ask a young English speaking taxi driver to help you by calling the salon. Better yet, check their site. There is a map. The salon Is located right next to mall, I. E. You walk past the mall on ligovsky coming from metro moskovski voksal. You see a court when turning left. Cars can enter the court. You see a forged metal gate. You see some large street number. Entrance is in the court. You will find the right bell only if guided by the mamasan by phone. Try Maya or Christina.

Check nezabudki at mayakovskaya. It is located only 400 m from moskovski voksal on nevski prospekt. It is on the side of nevski prospekt, where moskovski voksal is located. It also lies in a court. I cannot recall the number. The court can be entered by foot through an ark. The mamasan and or one of the butterflies speak enough English to help. It is a good place, generally speaking. Check the website.

Hi guys,

Need some help. I'm in spb and staying in Radisson sonya.

I'm trying to get to Markiza and I know there's one near my hotel. But when I try to get to their webpage it's been blocked by the service provider here. Could anyone help with phone number or exact location?

[QUOTE=Fooser;2226334]Hi guys,

Need some help. I'm in spb and staying in Radisson sonya.

I'm trying to get to Markiza and I know there's one near my hotel. But when I try to get to their webpage it's been blocked by the service provider here. Could anyone help with phone number or exact location?[/QUOTE](812) 956-08-93 on Ligovsky pr. It is not near Radisson Sonya but closest and located next to Galleria mall on Ligovsky prospekt.

Here to write my review, thanks to a young Russian man who help me translate. It's at Ligovsky Pr 44. Building No. 6.

I took Mary, a 7 for me. She was soft spoken but the language barrier made it hard to communicate. Skin is silky smooth and soft, a plus point.

Will try Nezabudki for English speaking girls next. Damage is 3000 rb per hour and it was worth it. However the interior wasn't impressive.

Here are some lists of salons in Petersburg. Sorry I haven't tidied the list very carefully, but the most comprehensive overviews are mostly at the top of the list, towards the bottom are some specific chains. It should be a good start. If you can't read Russian, have the web pages translated automatically by the chrome browser. Avoid establishments specializing in "erotic massage".

[URL]http://b.rusdosug.com/salons.php[/URL]

[URL]http://piteramur.com/salons/[/URL]

[URL]http://prostitutki-spb.su/intim-saloni.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://fotomodeli3.com/salons/[/URL]

[URL]http://dosug-peterburg.ru/salony-2/mayakovskaya/[/URL]

[URL]http://sexcompass.eu/spb/salons[/URL]

[URL]http://piterdosug.com/salony/[/URL]

[URL]http://b.putanastars.org/salony[/URL]

[URL]https://nimfomanki.org/salons[/URL]

[URL]https://piter-xxx.com/spb/[/URL]

[URL]http://markizaspb.club/[/URL]

[URL]https://inter-devochka.co/spb/[/URL]

[URL]https://rayspb.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://modelsyes.pro/index1[/URL]#rec45194026.

[URL]http://girls-vip.club/girls/[/URL]

[URL]https://oveduram.dosugcloud.eu/ru/d/part/53[/URL]

[URL]http://karamelkispb.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://prostitutki-spb.su/intim-salon/traviatta.php[/URL]

[URL]https://g.2intim242.com/salon/-ledi-ot-30-i-/[/URL]

[URL]http://b.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=4328[/URL]

[URL]http://kruzheva.info/prostitutki_salon/[/URL]

Here is some basic guidance.

1. Go to Petersburg. Moscow is too big, rich and unpleasant; other cities are too small.

2. If you can afford it, stay in a hotel in the center, ideally near the Ploshchad Vosstaniya end of Nevsky Prospekt. Then you will have hundreds of working girls within a 3 km radius.

3. Get a Russian SIM card with a big allowance for data (they cost little, but you have to have your passport along when buying it).

3. Install the Yandex app on your phone. That is how you will get around most of the time.

4. Go to salons. Chasing after individual girls you find online is extremely ineffective and potentially risky for several reasons.

5. If you don't speak Russian, establish a relationship with a driver who speaks English to take you around (take a few taxi rides using your Yandex app and until you find a driver who speaks some English and is willing to help). He should be willing to follow you all the way to the door of the salon. Agree with him in advance to pay him 10-20 dollars per salon he gets you into + regular taxi fees for all driving.

Everything else is red herrings.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2229289]Here are some lists of salons in Petersburg. Sorry I haven't tidied the list very carefully, but the most comprehensive overviews are mostly at the top of the list, towards the bottom are some specific chains. It should be a good start. If you can't read Russian, have the web pages translated automatically by the chrome browser. Avoid establishments specializing in "erotic massage".

[URL]http://b.rusdosug.com/salons.php[/URL]

[URL]http://piteramur.com/salons/[/URL]

[URL]http://prostitutki-spb.su/intim-saloni.htm[/URL]

[URL]https://fotomodeli3.com/salons/[/URL]

[URL]http://dosug-peterburg.ru/salony-2/mayakovskaya/[/URL]

[URL]http://sexcompass.eu/spb/salons[/URL]

[URL]http://piterdosug.com/salony/[/URL]

[URL]http://b.putanastars.org/salony[/URL]

[URL]https://nimfomanki.org/salons[/URL]

[URL]https://piter-xxx.com/spb/[/URL]

[URL]http://markizaspb.club/[/URL]

[URL]https://inter-devochka.co/spb/[/URL]

[URL]https://rayspb.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://modelsyes.pro/index1[/URL]#rec45194026.

[URL]http://girls-vip.club/girls/[/URL]

[URL]https://oveduram.dosugcloud.eu/ru/d/part/53[/URL]

[URL]http://karamelkispb.com/[/URL]

[URL]http://prostitutki-spb.su/intim-salon/traviatta.php[/URL]

[URL]https://g.2intim242.com/salon/-ledi-ot-30-i-/[/URL]

[URL]http://b.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=4328[/URL]

[URL]http://kruzheva.info/prostitutki_salon/[/URL][/QUOTE]I reduce your list to three and add one chain.

[URL]www.karamelkispb.com[/URL] ; [URL]www.rayspb.com[/URL] ; [URL]www.markizaspb.club[/URL] ; [URL]www.intimspb.ru[/URL].

For more and individuals (incl. Moscow) [URL]www.dosug.cz[/URL].

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2229298]Here is some basic guidance.

1. Go to Petersburg. Moscow is too big, rich and unpleasant; other cities are too small.

2. If you can afford it, stay in a hotel in the center, ideally near the Ploshchad Vosstaniya end of Nevsky Prospekt. Then you will have hundreds of working girls within a 3 km radius.

3. Get a Russian SIM card with a big allowance for data (they cost little, but you have to have your passport along when buying it).

3. Install the Yandex app on your phone. That is how you will get around most of the time.

4. Go to salons. Chasing after individual girls you find online is extremely ineffective and potentially risky for several reasons.

5. If you don't speak Russian, establish a relationship with a driver who speaks English to take you around (take a few taxi rides using your Yandex app and until you find a driver who speaks some English and is willing to help). He should be willing to follow you all the way to the door of the salon. Agree with him in advance to pay him 10-20 dollars per salon he gets you into + regular taxi fees for all driving.

Everything else is red herrings.[/QUOTE]1. Agree but Moscow has lot wider and better (more beautiful girls) selection.

3. When a big data not needed and anonymity is a must, speak with Stans in the street. They will sell you a new chip already activated to some company name. You can add money in any stand kiosk later when necessary.

4. Agree, easiest way and most secure.

5. Would not recommend that. More likely miss than hit.

As always, concise and solid recommendations. Thank you.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2229298]Here is some basic guidance.

1. Go to Petersburg. Moscow is too big, rich and unpleasant; other cities are too small.

2. If you can afford it, stay in a hotel in the center, ideally near the Ploshchad Vosstaniya end of Nevsky Prospekt. Then you will have hundreds of working girls within a 3 km radius.

3. Get a Russian SIM card with a big allowance for data (they cost little, but you have to have your passport along when buying it).

3. Install the Yandex app on your phone. That is how you will get around most of the time.

4. Go to salons. Chasing after individual girls you find online is extremely ineffective and potentially risky for several reasons.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2229331]1. Agree but Moscow has lot wider and better (more beautiful girls) selection.

3. When a big data not needed and anonymity is a must, speak with Stans in the street. They will sell you a new chip already activated to some company name. You can add money in any stand kiosk later when necessary.

4. Agree, easiest way and most secure.

5. Would not recommend that. More likely miss than hit.[/QUOTE]If Moscow is better, can you recommend some nice salons in Moscow? I used to know some, but am not aware of any anymore.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2229680]If Moscow is better, can you recommend some nice salons in Moscow? I used to know some, but am not aware of any anymore.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]For the obvious reasons some of them change name and location. The one I went changed the location and name every year three years in a row. I do not go to salons with prices below 5000 RUB and more than 10000 RUB per hour. [URL]https://www.dosug.cz/en/d/part/1[/URL] Here is a link in English version, did not compare that with Russian version since I only use there Russian one. Also most girls who are there on individuals page are actually working in salons but advertising as individuals. Do not forget to read the feedback of each girl and look the date written. In Moscow there are not chains as in St. Petersburg but more independent salons. P. S My favorite club in Moscow was Soho Rooms, now it is Secret Room. Have not been there after the renovation.

Ray seems pretty new and there are plenty girls in their salon at Fontaka River. Anyone have been there before? Any reviews?

[QUOTE=SpbTourist;2229767]Ray seems pretty new and there are plenty girls in their salon at Fontaka River. Anyone have been there before? Any reviews?[/QUOTE]I haven't tried Ray, but their website gives me a sense of deja vu, it is so similar to the website of another chain that I expect they may be related, I just can't remember which one.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2225576]Spent a weekend in Piter littered with work. Had a girl come to my hotel room like always to help the passage of time while relaxing. This time I called Davida, the prettiest and sexually most reticent among my love girls. 1.62 m, 47 kg, small shapely breasts, did ballet and dance, worked in a top notch salon for a short time, where I met her 2 years ago. She was featured as the top girl in the photo section of this salon for a half a year, stunner. The salon grind was not for her, but she still ups her budget by sleeping with selected well off lovers, . Came in jeans, sneakers and T shirt, delectable, great taste in clothing. The room was not done, but this 23 yo does not mind to be seen with me, 30 why her senior, still in great shape. Sex in the air when maid and steward came to quickly make up the room, fully knowing what will happen to the young beauty as soon as they leave the door. Showered, sat with a towel over my abdomen across a mirror, placed her in sight, unbuttoned her jeans, looking for the most sexy view. Stripped her down slowly, what a sight. Sat her on my leg, parted her legs, paying intense attention to her vag, she came eventually strongly with loud moans. She relly enjoyed. For her it is not easy to come, even when alone. I then started to insert my dick in her mouth and face fucked her, laid her on the bed and penetrated her bare back. What a feeling, what a sight. Needed to pause repeatedly to avoid cumming..[/QUOTE]Any chance you might be willing to share her contact info? I will be in Saint Petersburg for a few days in January and she sounds amazing.

Anyone know if Sasha Rose is available in Saint Petersburg? I see that she is in the city a lot, and one escort site lists her for Moscow, I was just wondering if anyone had any experience or knowledge on her.

I will be spending about 5 days around Saint Petersburg in January and looking for an amazing experience.

Hi guys,

I will try a salon like Markiza for my next trip but wonder what kind of service you get in such a place. Is the massage actually provided or do you skip this part? Is kissing (or french kissing) allowed? Do you have to shower first?

Thanks in advance for your comments, since my Russian is a bit limited I want to avoid confusion regarding what happens.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2229331]> 5. If you don't speak Russian, establish a relationship with a driver who speaks English to take you around (take a few taxi rides using your Yandex app and until you find a driver who speaks some English and is willing to help). He should be willing to follow you all the way to the door of the salon. Agree with him in advance to pay him 10-20 dollars per salon he gets you into + regular taxi fees for all driving.

5. Would not recommend that. More likely miss than hit.[/QUOTE]Do you have any other advice for non-Russian speakers? I think opening with "Privyet, pa angliski?" probably has a low success rate, not to mention understanding any responses.

Also, once in your average salon what is the protocol like? I didn't see much details in the reports I read.

[QUOTE=BreezyHome;2235439]Do you have any other advice for non-Russian speakers? I think opening with "Privyet, pa angliski?" probably has a low success rate, not to mention understanding any responses.

Also, once in your average salon what is the protocol like? I didn't see much details in the reports I read.[/QUOTE]Better forget other frases than Privyet and Do svidanya. Use a translator app if someone does not speak English, but it would be difficult to translate from Russian due to the Cyrillic writing which non speakers could not handle. Cab drivers take their own cut but cannot affiliate at all to prices. Salons do have a fixed price lists and what are included in service packages is written in some websites. You can always talk with girl first and ask the questions. If other non Russian speaking foreigners have been fine, you would be too! I do not understand what you mean by Protocol?

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2235527]Cab drivers take their own cut but cannot affiliate at all to prices.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "affiliate".

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2235527]If other non Russian speaking foreigners have been fine, you would be too![/QUOTE]Haha thanks, I expect so too, I just prefer not to end up in a bad situation like other posters have experienced (Moscow thread for example).

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2235527]I do not understand what you mean by Protocol?[/QUOTE]Just process and expectation at the salons: Is it preferred to call ahead? Should I know who I'm interested in when I arrive or is there a line up? And so on.

[QUOTE=BreezyHome;2235777]What do you mean by "affiliate".

Haha thanks, I expect so too, I just prefer not to end up in a bad situation like other posters have experienced (Moscow thread for example).

Just process and expectation at the salons: Is it preferred to call ahead? Should I know who I'm interested in when I arrive or is there a line up? And so on.[/QUOTE]Sorry, typo. Not affiliate but have an influence to reduce the price when they speak on your behalf there.

If you know who you want,then call ahead and book her, if not then call and ask who or how many girls are there at the moment. They do the presentation in salons and outcalls, so some client can order anytime the girl (s) for outcall. There are weekly calendars on some salons website, so you can see and book a few days ahead, though not all the time the information is forwarded to other shift administrator and the schedule might change. Paying ahead to girl there is mandatory. Expect covered BJ and no kissing. That is a common thing in Russia. Of course there are exceptions, either due to the sympathy or when paying additional fee.

Hello fellow men,

Below is a summary of my time spent in the summer of 2018. I was in and out of SPB. I have been to SPB many times and it is one of the best cities for mongering, due to the salons (no need to go elsewhere, choose the time you want) and especially the service, not to mention value-for-money (each to their own regarding this subject). Also, I have been lucky to meet part-time girls in these salons, where service was awesome and they do pretty much what you want them to do (one time, a girl who worked as gym instructor with perfect 10 body, she was so hot and due to foreplay, I came as soon as she touched me During the football world cup, as expected, demand was high and service may tend to go down, but I avoid generally during this time, to monger.

Generally I did the 30 minutes to an hour routine varying from 2000 to 4000 rubles. I always love the GFE routine with lot of french kissing and BBBJ is a bonus. Now these are sold for extras in many salons but depends on your vibe with the girl and I found that even in the same salon, it depends on the girl that you choose, it can be a hit or miss. The 8's could give you bad service and 7's can give you good service. Best salon for me was Markiza and often visited. Karamelki was avoided as BBBJ, normally is extra there, I read in the forum. Salon links are listed below by a fellow monger.

Nezabudki.

One time I tried Nezabudki Mayakovskaya and I think I met a girl (I think it was Lika, not sure) but service very mechanical, just did the job. I may try other locations next time or another girl.

Makiza Fontanka.

1. Anfisa.

[URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/fontanka-girl/1522244532[/URL]#!IMG_1127.

She was very beautiful with a sexy natural body. After the usual shower routine, she was in a playful mood. Now we started to do a slow dance with her slowly, unwrapping my towel. I pinned her against the wall, and started to kiss her. Normally, this would be extra, but she allowed me to kiss her, as maybe she was into me. We french kissed and then she lay me on my back. What followed surprisingly again was a BBBJ. I stood up and let her suck me on her knees. Now I wanted to make her cum, so I asked her to lie on her back and started to massage that heavenly body. She had the most beautiful pussy and fingered it till she closed her eyes and started moaning. Then made love to her in missionary style with heavy kissing.

She was an 8 in all senses and damage was mere 2500 rubles. This is how I have always experienced SPB. I never saw her again over there.

Markiza Victory Park.

2. Blonde girl (cannot remember name).

Very mechanical service and very bad attitude. I think she did not return again too. No BBBJ and hurried service.

3. Agatha.

[URL]http://markizaspb.club/index.php/parkpobedy-girl/1534968051[/URL]#!IMG_5898_.

She was new at the time and again ready to please. We french kissed a lot with me lying on top of her. After an extended foreplay session, she wanted to give me blowjob. Now I thought hopefully, she will give me BBBJ. And surely she lay me on my back and started an amazing BBBJ looking deep in my eyes. Then I put her on her back and started to do some titty fucking with her sucking on my dick at intervals. As a bonus, she sucked my balls too. Made love to her doggy style and came hard. Total GFE experience.

Her face was a 6, body was 7, and service was 9, damage 2500 rubles.

Incognito Spa.

So, Once, I wanted a massage so googled this spa. So this spa has basically semi-pros, young teenage girls, who give you a massage with happy ending. Nothing else, no kissing, no touching of private parts. At entrance, I was made to sit down and one girl comes in at a time and introduces her name. As it was a long passage, you feel like you are sitting in a fashion show as she catwalks all the way to you and back. Anyways, I picked the last girl.

4. Albina.

[URL]https://www.incognito-spa.com/girls/albina/[/URL]

Not knowing what to expect, I went in room which had a shower in the room itself. So we got naked and she got in shower with me. Now this was different as compared to salons as they do not shower with you. Also, this girl was semi-pro and we started to do small talk about regular life in SPB. So it felt GFE to me. After a short shower, she ay me down and started a massage. (She really was not trained to do any sort of massage). But she was like 20 years old (and literally a regular girl on the street) and that smooth soft skin and body was really awesome to feel and look at. She started the massaging my balls and dick and I knew that my ending would be very happy. I came hard with my hands on her ass, squeezing it nice. Session time was shorter than expected.

Overall, I would not repeat. Girl was an 8, service was a 6.

Kurtizanki.

5. Regina.

[URL]http://kurtizanki-spb.com/index.php/regina[/URL]

I wanted to try different salons and finally I got the right address for this one (it is bit out of the city) I picked Regina due to the vibe I got form her when she came in. Her energy was positive. So I picked her over some other chick who looked better than Regina. But attitude was everything. The shower was not maintained as well as other salons. After the shower, Regina actually seemed eager to please and was total GFE. We lay in bed kissing like a couple and chatting and laughing. We hit it off well. Again I thought I will get BBBJ. But to my surprise, blow job was covered. It put me off a little, given the vibe (or the so-called vibe may be fake). Anyways I fucked her missionary and came in sleeping doggy style. Over all good experience, girl was a 7, service was 7, and GFE was 9. I would totally repeat with her.

SPB is really a good place to monger, one of the best in the world. Happy mongering!

Does anyone have prior experience with the following agencies.

[URL]https://petersburgescorts.com/[/URL] Petersburg Escorts.

And.

[URL]http://euroescort.info[/URL] St. Petersburg Escorts.

They charge quite a hefty sum for 1 hour (200-300) euros, but I am not sure whether they are reputable. Do the photos look real? I would greatly appreciate some feedback and advice on reputable agencies in SPB!

[QUOTE=Sparta873;2240684]Does anyone have prior experience with the following agencies.

[URL]https://petersburgescorts.com/[/URL] Petersburg Escorts.

And.

[URL]http://euroescort.info[/URL] St. Petersburg Escorts.

They charge quite a hefty sum for 1 hour (200-300) euros, but I am not sure whether they are reputable. Do the photos look real? I would greatly appreciate some feedback and advice on reputable agencies in SPB![/QUOTE][URL]Euroescort.info[/URL] Lena id33 is not Lena, even not a Russian but Portugese actress Erica Fontes. Marya id044 is Ukrainian Loretta A in met-art and sexart. I cannot confirm that all are fake but at least those two are. It is quite common in fake sites in Russia to take a teen pictures from those kind of sites (met-art, sexart) and advertise them.

[QUOTE=Traveller44;2240880][URL]Euroescort.info[/URL] Lena id33 is not Lena, even not a Russian but Portugese actress Erica Fontes. Marya id044 is Ukrainian Loretta A in met-art and sexart. I cannot confirm that all are fake but at least those two are. It is quite common in fake sites in Russia to take a teen pictures from those kind of sites (met-art, sexart) and advertise them.[/QUOTE]Thank you! Are there any reputable agencies that you would recommend based on your experience? Or are salons / dosug the way to go in SPB?

[QUOTE=Sparta873;2241039]Thank you! Are there any reputable agencies that you would recommend based on your experience? Or are salons / dosug the way to go in SPB?[/QUOTE]I have not use any agencies there, never. Long time ago I went to Karamelki salons, but to be only with a specific girl. I visited also other salons but they are now closed. My preference was and is Amsterdam chain salon Royal for 6 k /1 HR, 9 k /2 hrs. [URL]www.intimspb.ru[/URL] For individuals and more salons including Moscow, Dosug has always been the best option for me.

[QUOTE=Sparta873;2241039]Thank you! Are there any reputable agencies that you would recommend based on your experience? Or are salons / dosug the way to go in SPB?[/QUOTE]I would only ever do salons in Petersburg, for several reasons. See my previous posts on this.

[QUOTE=Bdenisov;2235259]Hi guys,

I will try a salon like Markiza for my next trip but wonder what kind of service you get in such a place. Is the massage actually provided or do you skip this part? Is kissing (or french kissing) allowed? Do you have to shower first?

Thanks in advance for your comments, since my Russian is a bit limited I want to avoid confusion regarding what happens.[/QUOTE]There is no massage if you are in a salon, it is not a massage parlor. There are massage parlors, but they are a different kind of place. Many of them have started only giving body to body massages with happy endings, no sex. It is often skilfully done, but personally I like sex (so I avoid them and go to salons.

The salon procedure is typically as follows:

You call up the salon and ask them whether / how many girls they have available. Some show this on their website with pictures, but you still have to call and say you are coming and get directions. They may tell you that they are full, which may be true or may be because they detect you are a foreigner and fear you are dark-skinned or Muslim, which some of them don't like. When I call them I seize the first opportunity to say that I am from X western country, and then they usually relax.

You follow the directions you got until you arrive at the entrance to the building. Call them up again and they say which doorbell to press and which floor to go to. The stairwell is often very dingy, typically Russian. If you are not used to Russia you may feel that it is very dangerous, but it isn't. When you get to the right floor, they open the door. A mamasan lets you in, you take off your shoes (Russian cultural requirement), she offers you slippers / flip-flops and takes you to a bedroom. She goes out and in come the girls (some places in a group, but more and more often one at a time, perhaps mentioning their names). You have to be very alert and attentive to see whom you like and remember their names in this short time. If you can't decide between some of then, ask those to show themselves again. You can also ask to have a word in private with your top candidate. Once you have chosen your girl, you pay up front. Then you undress, and she takes you to the shower. You can't go there on your own because they don't want customers bumping into each other in the corridor.

To do all of this, either you have to speak Russian (not just rudimentary, but quite good Russian), or you have to have somebody with you to interpret (ideally all the way until you have chosen your girl), or you have to get really lucky and find a mamasan who speaks English.

I see a lot of posts about Salons but never seen anyone mentioning anything about Strip Clubs with full service. Looking for something similar to Angles in Moscow. Do they have Stip Clus in St. Persburg?

There are strip clubs located every few blocks along Nevski Prospekt. Along Griboedova. Along Bolshaya Konnyushennaya. Zavist is a chain. They often have separate Rooms with a bed. I avoid them since I find the dancers with their make up and lanky bodies less doable than the Little girly Looking minxes in the salons. I once was asked by a Pretty from the street to go in such a Strip club. They desperately tried to get me to drink alcohol, which I find does not mix well with sex. Eventually two pretties went to the room with me and gave me an enjoyable Hand Job. Thereafter they were Kind of Cold, though. I would maintain Strip Clubs and sex do not chime on site.

There are lots of scams going on for the past few years and has now become a pandemic, with reportedly thousands of girls doing this. My Russian friends told me about this after a girl I met on Instagram who was acting funny. The way it works is you meet a girl (they will approach you on Rubinstein street) or it could be a girl you've met on Tinder or Instagram, they are usually 18-20. Then they will offer you to meet them at a bar or a club, not a shady place where you will be robbed no, but a nice and popular spot. You will end up paying for their drinks etc. They get a cut. This can go on forever, you don't get any pussy. You just think she likes you and is playing hard to get. If you speak Russian, here is a good post about it:

[URL]https://www.pickupforum.ru/index.php?showtopic=209860[/URL]

So be careful. If she says "meet me and girls in a bar" and gives you location, it's a scam. Always choose a place to take a girl (good hotel bar is a good choice), don't let them dictate where to take her, and don't go to their apartment, insist on taking them to yours. My local friends say it's HUGE. So unless you feel genuine attention from a girl including kissing etc, you're probably being scammed. Best to stick with salons and escorts or girls for money, so things are clear. SPB isn't cheap.

[QUOTE=Georgest;2250617]I see a lot of posts about Salons but never seen anyone mentioning anything about Strip Clubs with full service. Looking for something similar to Angles in Moscow. Do they have Stip Clus in St. Persburg?[/QUOTE]Could be scammed I have been told, or drugged. I'd like to hear more if anyone has any feedback on this, I cannot confirm myself.

Too many generalisations in the Kiev, Moscow and Piter fora. Just be street smart. And use common judgement. Prepare your trips. Open a Yandex and a Mamba account. Read the young girls' mind. They want. A -safety from violence or disease. They want. B- anonymity. They want. C- money. If those are given, they do not mind. D- a nice experience and many enjoy. E - the sexual satisafaction which comes with changing male partners. There is this falling in love effect when you meet someone new, if he has game, and even if it only lasts two hours until ennui sets in. Do not believe the nonsense of "golden age" and "no more fun to be had". Carpe diem. Seize the day. Stop drinking and wanking and overeating. Get in shape, stay sober and hunt. It is a lot of fun. As Russia has materially stabilized, the girls have more choices. But if you devote effort to it you still can find a lot of young pretties who transition through their phase as a working girl or a girl that does not mind the money by the side. Very often they maintain a side Job as a waitress or a Fitness club reception girl. They are everywhere. The material commonwealth of a country is not the same as that of a struggling individual. The girls all know how pretty they are, especially the very pretty ones- They know they can monetarize their quality. They know their quality depreciates with age. That is one incentive to take the plunge early. A young girl coming from the countryside to the city on a dime can have a few weeks in a salon to shore up liquidity. Other girls move from poorer to regions like Dagestan to richer ones like Moscow. Large distances. Anonymity. Whats app in the evening to mom that all is allright. Mom does not dare to ask all questions and stays general in her advice. Mom often knows from her experience as a young pretty in the USSR, who was bedded by industry barons. She passed her beauuty on to her kid, who is now taking the plunge. I met an incredible 19 year old From Donbass in a Major Russian city, a petite 10 that any straight thinking guy would agree on, who had a great time with me on a one-off encounter. She came nicely as did I. I was able to help her finance her first days in this major city in the CIS. I remember it vividly since I came from a one to one meeting with a great power ambassador. We discussed Donbass at length. It was an irony of the day that I could help a girl from Donbass with her immediate needs, material and carnal, and so could she satisfying my needs. A to the are prerequisites, remember. There is a large industry of strip clubs. And there are girls scamming like fungus on a tree. Nevertheless, your are entirely immune from this stuff if you bring only cash to your encounters, let us say 15 000 Rubel, no credit card. Cut your losses should you ever get robbed. Leave the rest in the hotel room safe and book a room in the city center which allows you to get more cash if needed. Check the prices on every damn drink they order. Check taxi prices beforehand. Do not follow anybody into a car you did not order. Do not go in a non-public alcohol serving bar. Do not speak English loudly in the Metro. Wear a light jacket where you place your cash and smart phone breast high. There are drug addict gangs who will robb you in the Metro Station, pummeling you and grabbing your wallet in the confusion of a large crowd thonging a Metro entrance. Do not follow a guy or a girl who approached you. Only follow a taxi Driver or a guy / girl which you picked or approached. Stay safe. Use condoms. If you do not countenance the rubber, stick with oral sex which can be fantastic and has been the mainstay of paid romanticism for millenia. The bigger the city, the more wealth accumulation, the more anonymity and the more competition among the young butterfllies. The latter is key to an intimate GFE. It helps the girl to be engaging and grateful you picked her and only her. Moscow is at times unnecessesarily expensive. That is why I prefer Piter. But I have had extremely satisfying romantic experiences with dosed material support often serving as aphrodisiac and enabling agent in most major cities commented upon here. Finally, an unexpected gift and a prolonged massage are other sure practicesto get a reaction from the young nude adventurist in your room. I love small shapely feet and hands without nail polish. Giving a pair of white sneakers is a great turn on for a girl, and a wonderful toy in bed to decorate a young girl's body. Girls love to get confused, lured and romanticized.

Intimspb. Ru is blocked.

Is intimspb. Fun an exact same mirror website?

Anyone knows reliable and recent link please let me know or PM me, many thanks, last day here.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2259058]Intimspb. Ru is blocked.

Is intimspb. Fun an exact same mirror website?

Anyone knows reliable and recent link please let me know or PM me, many thanks, last day here.[/QUOTE]I meant these two websites:

Intimspb. Ru and intimspb. Fun.

There was a recommendation for ayspb Rthis thread. Maybe the northern location was good, but the location on Fontanaka was not a good experience. The space is meh, the schedule is totally false (no girls in the lineup that were scheduled), and of course the photos weren't real but the girls weren't anywhere close in quality to the photos. In hindsight I now question the spb salon scene: a tourist bus ticket costs almost the same amount as an hour so what should I expect? In the end I went with them because it was easy with English over Whatsapp but if I was going to do spb again I would make the effort to find something on Nevsky or Rubinstein.

Keeping it real.

. . Nevertheless, your are entirely immune from this stuff if you bring only cash to your encounters, let us say 15 000 Rubel, no credit card. Cut your losses should you ever get robbed. Leave the rest in the hotel room safe and book a room in the city center which allows you to get more cash if needed. Check the prices on every damn drink they order. Check taxi prices beforehand. Do not follow anybody into a car you did not order. Do not go in a non-public alcohol serving bar. Do not speak English loudly in the Metro. Wear a light jacket where you place your cash and smart phone breast high. There are drug addict gangs who will robb you in the Metro Station, pummeling you and grabbing your wallet in the confusion of a large crowd thonging a Metro entrance. Do not follow a guy or a girl who approached you. Only follow a taxi Driver or a guy / girl which you picked or approached. Stay safe. . .

Philosophus, is this accurate? I have never been to St. Petersburg, but I recently spent a number of months in Moscow, and found it very safe. I explored the city, including late at night, and did not feel worried for my phone or laptop or anything else. I have heard that Petersburg is less safe, but my goodness, your words above make it sound like you were in a war zone.

As far as taxis, shouldn't everyone be using Uber or Yandex these days? Those apps have essentially eliminated taxi scamming.

I just don't want people who have never been to Russia to get the wrong idea. Your words above are not the Russia I went to.

[QUOTE=Uphigh;2259140]Keeping it real.

. . Nevertheless, your are entirely immune from this stuff if you bring only cash to your encounters, let us say 15 000 Rubel, no credit card. Cut your losses should you ever get robbed. Leave the rest in the hotel room safe and book a room in the city center which allows you to get more cash if needed. Check the prices on every damn drink they order. Check taxi prices beforehand. Do not follow anybody into a car you did not order. Do not go in a non-public alcohol serving bar. Do not speak English loudly in the Metro. Wear a light jacket where you place your cash and smart phone breast high. There are drug addict gangs who will robb you in the Metro Station, pummeling you and grabbing your wallet in the confusion of a large crowd thonging a Metro entrance. Do not follow a guy or a girl who approached you. Only follow a taxi Driver or a guy / girl which you picked or approached. Stay safe. . .
[/QUOTE]After traveling to and living in Russia for more than 10 years, the only time I got robbed was in Saint Petersburg. And, strangely enough, I was robbed by the police who stopped me and asked to see my passport and visa, searched me and lightened my load of cash. Bless them.

[QUOTE=Uphigh;2259140]Keeping it real.

. . Nevertheless, your are entirely immune from this stuff if you bring only cash to your encounters, let us say 15 000 Rubel, no credit card. Cut your losses should you ever get robbed. Leave the rest in the hotel room safe and book a room in the city center which allows you to get more cash if needed. Check the prices on every damn drink they order. Check taxi prices beforehand. Do not follow anybody into a car you did not order. Do not go in a non-public alcohol serving bar. Do not speak English loudly in the Metro. Wear a light jacket where you place your cash and smart phone breast high. There are drug addict gangs who will robb you in the Metro Station, pummeling you and grabbing your wallet in the confusion of a large crowd thonging a Metro entrance. Do not follow a guy or a girl who approached you. Only follow a taxi Driver or a guy / girl which you picked or approached. Stay safe. . .
[/QUOTE]After traveling to and living in Russia for more than 10 years, the only time I got robbed was in Saint Petersburg. And, strangely enough, I was robbed by the police who stopped me and asked to see my passport and visa, searched me and lightened my load of cash. Bless them.

[QUOTE=Jake993;2259403]After traveling to and living in Russia for more than 10 years, the only time I got robbed was in Saint Petersburg. And, strangely enough, I was robbed by the police who stopped me and asked to see my passport and visa, searched me and lightened my load of cash. Bless them.[/QUOTE]Adding my 2 cents to this trend. I have been in the whole Russia from SP to Vladivostok and never ever got robbed or any tentative of scam to me. Precautions need to be take but not to be paranoic, just relax and let it be. I'm close to go to Piter for the "and "th time, as far as I remember. Usually I take airbnb since I like the freedom to bring any girl at any time, app taxi is installed in my phone but usually I take the metro which is well connected to everywhere and yes, I take my bank cards with me plus some cash, I would say Russia is one of the safety places in the world.

Piter is safe. I just gave advice which every tourist should adhere to. It costs nothing. It doesn't take any of the fun out. It is just smart to do as I recommend. You are easily spotted as a foreigner in Russia, believe me. It makes it easier to break the ice with the young butterflies. But the baddies also recognize you from afar. Whenever I was threatened, drug addicts or drunkards where involved. Happened 3 times. Small losses. Luring a single man walking Nevsky to a strip bar is absolutely common. That is not necessarily a scam, but the pretty luring you may not strip in the bar. They do serve alcohol to get you in the spending mood. Cheap vodka shots I was offered free oft times, and declined. Ladies starting drinking on your bill and the tab ending at 500 US $ has happened. Even in an upper class restaurant, no nudity or WG, I was once asked by the bartender whether I would like to offer champagne to my guests. I did. Two Hours later, the bill, 500 US $. He served some expensive French brand. This happens in Russia. A drunk customer in a restaurant inviting you for shots, and not accepting a no, that is another nuisance. Don't mix alcohol and hunting. Just walk, when people get obnoxious. The salon scene is real and customer oriented. True, it can be tough to find a gem, but they are out there, if often only for brief periods. They can be befriended to meet outside the salon in your hotel room. All salon girls would rather sleep with fewer, wealthier, more pleasant customers. If they are pretty enough, they collect a dozen or so such regular customers and leave the salon for good. Pay them the salon rate and they feel treated like a princess, doubling their hourly income. Then fuck the Little princess in a nice hotel room. Pampered by your charms, the pretty little princess is more likely to please as you want to have it done. And she will come again if you ask her. That is the usual becoming of a call girl in Piter. The smart, self confident and sex loving ones make it through college or programming school this way. The ones who can't handle the emotional side settle for a regular BF and quit sleeping around for gifts. Russia.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2259562]Piter is safe. I just gave advice which every tourist should adhere to. It costs nothing. It doesn't take any of the fun out. It is just smart to do as I recommend. You are easily spotted as a foreigner in Russia, believe me. It makes it easier to break the ice with the young butterflies. But the baddies also recognize you from afar. Whenever I was threatened, drug addicts or drunkards where involved. Happened 3 times. Small losses. Luring a single man walking Nevsky to a strip bar is absolutely common. That is not necessarily a scam, but the pretty luring you may not strip in the bar. They do serve alcohol to get you in the spending mood. Cheap vodka shots I was offered free oft times, and declined. Ladies starting drinking on your bill and the tab ending at 500 US $ has happened. Even in an upper class restaurant, no nudity or WG, I was once asked by the bartender whether I would like to offer champagne to my guests. I did. Two Hours later, the bill, 500 US $. He served some expensive French brand. This happens in Russia. .[/QUOTE]It usually does not happen elsewhere in Russia, and it happens very often in Saint Petersburg. I have close friends who have been living there for years and they warned me right away. This is a huge, ongoing, and widespread "razvod" scam that has permeated much of the most popular bar and club scene, and is not just limited to strip clubs. I have experienced daily attempts at being scammed on Tinder and by girls approaching you on Rubinstein street. Bartenders, waiters, police, and mafia are getting kick backs, and nothing is being done about it because there is so much money it in. I feel sorry for all the tourists who have been scammed during the football games in SPB.

Signs to look out for, and usually with 18-25 year old girls.

1. Tinder girl will suggest to meet on Nevski or Rubinstein street.

2. She names a good bar (could be Karaoke bar where each song is 1000, each bottle is 6000, the bill is in hundreds of dollars quickly).

3. She will say she is with another girl or girls.

4. She will usually say "we just want to get very drunk".

5. If you met a girl say in you hotel bar, never go to the bar of her choosing, it's a scam.

6. Girls approaching you constantly on Rubinstein street, asking for cigarettes, or any other excuse to speak to you.

Remember, as a foreigner, you are not able to tell these girls apart from 'normal' date. Only after living in SPB for awhile you'll start to tell. They also tend to use same phrases. If you let them take you out, this will go on for awhile, with various excuses given to avoid sex. You may have best intentions, but she has only one, to rid you of as much money as possible.

In big cities like Moscow, this does not happen, because Moscow is just too big, and other cities don't have as many tourists. SPB get a very large number of tourists annually, on par with London or Milan. So be careful, use salons to be sure. Don't go on second date if you didn't get at least a good french kiss on the first date (usually scammers won't kiss you). Never let her order from a waiter directly: let the waiter know anything that is ordered from a menu has to be approved by you. Otherwise the minute you go to bathroom there'll be champagne worth hundreds of dollars on your table.

When these girls are offered money for sex, they will say they are not prostitutes. In my mind they are much worse, they are the scum of the earth.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2225576]Spent a weekend in Piter littered with work. Had a girl come to my hotel room like always to help the passage of time while relaxing. This time I called Davida, the prettiest and sexually most reticent among my love girls. 1.62 m, 47 kg, small shapely breasts, did ballet and dance, worked in a top notch salon for a short time, where I met her 2 years ago. She was featured as the top girl in the photo section of this salon for a half a year, stunner. The salon grind was not for her, but she still ups her budget by sleeping with selected well off lovers, . Came in jeans, sneakers and T shirt, delectable, great taste in clothing. The room was not done, but this 23 yo does not mind to be seen with me, 30 why her senior, still in great shape. Sex in the air when maid and steward came to quickly make up the room, fully knowing what will happen to the young beauty as soon as they leave the door. Showered, sat with a towel over my abdomen across a mirror, placed her in sight, unbuttoned her jeans, looking for the most sexy view. Stripped her down slowly, what a sight. Sat her on my leg, parted her legs, paying intense attention to her vag, she came eventually strongly with loud moans. She relly enjoyed. For her it is not easy to come, even when alone. I then started to insert my dick in her mouth and face fucked her, laid her on the bed and penetrated her bare back. What a feeling, what a sight. Needed to pause repeatedly to avoid cumming. Eventually pulled out, back to the mirror, intense facefucking standing with slurps and sound and goo, a mirror on the floor revealing yet another pornographic angle on this lass, a true 9 or 10 for my taste. Laid her on the floor and came gloriously in her face and hair. So much sperm, what a sight. She does not mind at all as long as I enjoy. It was actually her 23rd birthday. A gift equivalent to 180 US $ For 2 h will surely make her meet me again.[/QUOTE]I will be in Saint Petersburg for 5 days next month and I am really interested in knowing more about Davida and if there is any chance you would be willing to share her contact info. Cheers.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20ExGmEEw4[/URL]

I was watching this guys videos of his trip to Kiev. Before he visited Ukraine, he was scammed in Turkey. Very surprising to see an experienced traveler fall prey, but it happens. He explains the situation and how he handled it.

Hi there,

As a long time passive member I finally did a trip to st. Petersburg and wanted to share my experiences.

Things to bring with you:

- about 50-100 euros should be changed into rubles in your home country for 1st expenses (tips for taxidriver to hotel, liftboy, prepaid phonecard etc.).

I got a much better exchange rate in st. Petersburg. My VISA gold creditcard allows me to withdraw money from ATMs without.

Further charges 3 times a year. I used that and got 78.5 rubles / euro which is very good. Only better place was a suspicious looking.

Place in a backyard at Nevsky prospekt 83 (just a small sign with a Euro and Dollar sign on it pinting ack there). They got me 79,4 rubles / euro.

Without further fees.

- a Smartphone.

Get a prepaid phonecard at the airport. I got one from Tele 2 with Internet only (no phonecalls or SMS possible). This cost me 350 rubles for unlimited.

Internet. I used the phone with the following very helpful apps: Microsoft translator, google translator, whatsapp, google maps, Uber and a random mail app. This makes navigating and setting up dates much easier.

- a laptop.

Not a real necessity, but browsing the internet for dates, writing emails in the warmth of your hotel rooms is easier with a laptop. I also used it for music while having a girl on my room. Also having google chrome with automatic translation of Russian (kyrillic) websites at hand is very good. It would even be better for you can use Tineye.

Things I also did in advance:

- Lingotaxi.

I booked myself a taxi in advance with an English speaking driver. He was waiting for me when I left the security area with a sign with my name on. I immediately asked him to help me get a prepaid card. He also knew in advance at what hotel he had to drop me off so. Easy start. You can also try to get contacts for girls from him or get his phone number for he could be your English driver for your trip which I did not. Maybe next time.

[URL]https://lingotaxi.com/english-airport-transfers-in-st-petersburg/[/URL]

Hotels:

I stayed at the "Grand Emerald Hotel" which is a 5-star hotel in the center. Large rooms which are quite old fashioned but nice. It had just one disadvantage: 2 guys of the hotel staff were standing at the entrance 24/7 and the elevator could only get you up using the keycard of your room. Getting a girl to your room means you have to get down and meet her at the entrance. Walk of shame afterwards included. I don't know if the hotel staff really cares but it made me feel uncomfortable.

I also checked out the, oft spoken of, "Corinthia". Even more in the center than the Grand Emerald Hotel it has a large entrance hall which makes it easier for girls to get past the reception (concierge). I could not check the elevators (keycard necessary), but I would recommend the Corinthia if you prefer outcalls. I could also easily spot girls at the entrance hall waiting for customers (not my type though), so I assume the hotel does not care having girls on the room anyway.

Experiences with girls:

I tried different ways. Here is the list with links and my experiences.

Best Real Escort ([URL]https://bestrealescort.ru/[/URL]).

I tried Svetik and Alyona. They are cute but the pictures on the website are totally different. Not photoshopped. Different girls. To start with: never judge girls by their picture while browsing. Always try to see them live.

With this website: girls are cute, but not worth the money (250 EUR /2 hours).

St. Petersburg Escorts ([URL]http://euroescort.info/[/URL]).

With the experience of the service mentioned above I went there to see the girls. Also cute but not worth the money compared to other ways of getting laid, so I left.

Rusdosug ([URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL]).

As I don't speak Russian at all I was always trying to get girls which speak English (or at least understands a little English). Browsing rusdosug I realized that a lot of girls who seemed to speak English have a contact mail address containg the word "yavamdam. Ru". So wrote an email and got an address a little outside the center, where an apartment with girls is located. The area was quite a dump but paradise compared to the apartment itself. There was an aquarium inside with yellow water (no fish. At least not anymore). The rooms were a mess, too. 2 girls there (one English speaking girl which was quite cute), but I quickly left. Cannot recommend that place, nice price though (2500 rubles / hour, 6000 rubles for 2 hours outcall).

After this experience I quit writing with girls on this site.

Taxidriver.

By far the best way to see girls!

I went down to our reception as asked for an English speaking taxidriver. By the way: English speaking taxidrivers are very rare, but I had luck. The taxidriver spoke a little bit English, and I started a conversation. I pointed out, that I was looking for "a little bit of fun" involving girls. He said he knew an apartment and asked, whether he should take me there. Of course I accepted.

He drove me to an apartment with 5 girls (5000 rubles / hour), very nice interior, nice rooms. Unfortunately all girls were occupied (Friday night), so he took me to another apartment (6000 rubes / hour). Even nicer apartment. To sum it up: he showed me 5 (different apartments, Every apartment having at least 3 girls (one apartment had 7 girls) and all were within the price range of 5 k-6 k rubles / hour. And the best was: every girl in every apartment was a stunner. I am really not exaggerating. Really. The only downside to this was, that the taxidriver took 1000 rubles per drive, which was about double the price he would normally take.

To sum it up:

A taxidriver getting you around in apartments is the best you can do. Do not go for these high price escort websites as all pictures are fake (girls do not even have the same hair color compared to the pictures).

To save some money while doing some sightseeing in the city best use Uber and save your taxidriver for the important dates.

And: St. Peter is worth a visit!

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Nice report thanks. Can you include any level about service levels? Did you have any trouble getting GFE (I. E. DFK, BBBJ) from any of the girls you saw thanks.

Hb.

[QUOTE=DesasterArea;2270056]Hi there,

As a long time passive member I finally did a trip to st. Petersburg and wanted to share my experiences.

Things to bring with you:

- about 50-100 euros should be changed into rubles in your home country for 1st expenses (tips for taxidriver to hotel, liftboy, prepaid phonecard etc.).

I got a much better exchange rate in st. Petersburg. My VISA gold creditcard allows me to withdraw money from ATMs without.

Further charges 3 times a year. I used that and got 78.5 rubles / euro which is very good. Only better place was a suspicious looking.

Place in a backyard at Nevsky prospekt 83 (just a small sign with a Euro and Dollar sign on it pinting ack there). They got me 79,4 rubles / euro.

Without further fees.

- a Smartphone.

Get a prepaid phonecard at the airport. I got one from Tele 2 with Internet only (no phonecalls or SMS possible). This cost me 350 rubles for unlimited.

Internet. I used the phone with the following very helpful apps: Microsoft translator, google translator, whatsapp, google maps, Uber and a random mail app. This makes navigating and setting up dates much easier.

- a laptop.

Not a real necessity, but browsing the internet for dates, writing emails in the warmth of your hotel rooms is easier with a laptop. I also used it for music while having a girl on my room. Also having google chrome with automatic translation of Russian (kyrillic) websites at hand is very good. It would even be better for you can use Tineye.

Things I also did in advance:

- Lingotaxi.

I booked myself a taxi in advance with an English speaking driver. He was waiting for me when I left the security area with a sign with my name on. I immediately asked him to help me get a prepaid card. He also knew in advance at what hotel he had to drop me off so. Easy start. You can also try to get contacts for girls from him or get his phone number for he could be your English driver for your trip which I did not. Maybe next time.

[URL]https://lingotaxi.com/english-airport-transfers-in-st-petersburg/[/URL]

Hotels:

I stayed at the "Grand Emerald Hotel" which is a 5-star hotel in the center. Large rooms which are quite old fashioned but nice. It had just one disadvantage: 2 guys of the hotel staff were standing at the entrance 24/7 and the elevator could only get you up using the keycard of your room. Getting a girl to your room means you have to get down and meet her at the entrance. Walk of shame afterwards included. I don't know if the hotel staff really cares but it made me feel uncomfortable.

I also checked out the, oft spoken of, "Corinthia". Even more in the center than the Grand Emerald Hotel it has a large entrance hall which makes it easier for girls to get past the reception (concierge). I could not check the elevators (keycard necessary), but I would recommend the Corinthia if you prefer outcalls. I could also easily spot girls at the entrance hall waiting for customers (not my type though), so I assume the hotel does not care having girls on the room anyway.

Experiences with girls:

I tried different ways. Here is the list with links and my experiences.

Best Real Escort ([URL]https://bestrealescort.ru/[/URL]).

I tried Svetik and Alyona. They are cute but the pictures on the website are totally different. Not photoshopped. Different girls. To start with: never judge girls by their picture while browsing. Always try to see them live.

With this website: girls are cute, but not worth the money (250 EUR /2 hours).

St. Petersburg Escorts ([URL]http://euroescort.info/[/URL]).

With the experience of the service mentioned above I went there to see the girls. Also cute but not worth the money compared to other ways of getting laid, so I left.

Rusdosug ([URL]www.rusdosug.com[/URL]).

As I don't speak Russian at all I was always trying to get girls which speak English (or at least understands a little English). Browsing rusdosug I realized that a lot of girls who seemed to speak English have a contact mail address containg the word "yavamdam. Ru". So wrote an email and got an address a little outside the center, where an apartment with girls is located. The area was quite a dump but paradise compared to the apartment itself. There was an aquarium inside with yellow water (no fish. At least not anymore). The rooms were a mess, too. 2 girls there (one English speaking girl which was quite cute), but I quickly left. Cannot recommend that place, nice price though (2500 rubles / hour, 6000 rubles for 2 hours outcall).

After this experience I quit writing with girls on this site.

Taxidriver.

By far the best way to see girls!

I went down to our reception as asked for an English speaking taxidriver. By the way: English speaking taxidrivers are very rare, but I had luck. The taxidriver spoke a little bit English, and I started a conversation. I pointed out, that I was looking for "a little bit of fun" involving girls. He said he knew an apartment and asked, whether he should take me there. Of course I accepted.

He drove me to an apartment with 5 girls (5000 rubles / hour), very nice interior, nice rooms. Unfortunately all girls were occupied (Friday night), so he took me to another apartment (6000 rubes / hour). Even nicer apartment. To sum it up: he showed me 5 (different apartments, Every apartment having at least 3 girls (one apartment had 7 girls) and all were within the price range of 5 k-6 k rubles / hour. And the best was: every girl in every apartment was a stunner. I am really not exaggerating. Really. The only downside to this was, that the taxidriver took 1000 rubles per drive, which was about double the price he would normally take.

To sum it up:

A taxidriver getting you around in apartments is the best you can do. Do not go for these high price escort websites as all pictures are fake (girls do not even have the same hair color compared to the pictures).

To save some money while doing some sightseeing in the city best use Uber and save your taxidriver for the important dates.

And: St. Peter is worth a visit!

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At HarvestBoi,

I asked for anal once, when I had 4 girls to choose from standing in front of me. Three of them agreed for 2000 rubles more. I forgot to mention in my report: Always ask about the service level included! Sometimes even kissing is not included. Once a girl demanded 2 k rubles more at the end of the session because in her eyes cunnilingus was an extra service (the other girls didn't). For me this somehow dampens the mood after the date. Sorry I did not ask for other services. Sadly I have no paid subscription as I found the mobile phone number of the taxidriver again but. No PM possible.

I agree with many experts in this forum. If you do not speak Russian, you better avoid the incall service in Moscow. I was in front the building of an Moscow brothel, and I couldn't find the entrance. Because the ladies don't speak English.

In STB you can easily find at least one girl in each apartment, who speaks English. And that could ensure you to find the place, or get a escort.

On the other hand, I think, it is easier to find a non-pro girl on tinder in Moscow than STB. There are lots of scam on tinder in STB.

BTW, I suggest Dasha from RAI apartment SPB. Her look is 7 of 10. But she can make you heaven.

Hello all,

Been reading this forum for awhile before I plan my trip to SPB. I still do not understand how people can write "the girls in salons are average" when I am seeing a calendar for every girl (when they work) in most salons?? Secondly, why does nobody mention outcall here? Is it that difficult to organise? Can I call a salon to request a girl at my hotel or need to go there first?

Thanks!

Docspomi.

[QUOTE=Docspomi;2273211]Hello all,

Been reading this forum for awhile before I plan my trip to SPB. I still do not understand how people can write "the girls in salons are average" when I am seeing a calendar for every girl (when they work) in most salons?? Secondly, why does nobody mention outcall here? Is it that difficult to organise? Can I call a salon to request a girl at my hotel or need to go there first?

Thanks!

Docspomi.[/QUOTE]P.S. And these girls in salons look smoking hot.

[QUOTE=ChinesePower;2272158]I agree with many experts in this forum. If you do not speak Russian, you better avoid the incall service in Moscow. I was in front the building of an Moscow brothel, and I couldn't find the entrance. Because the ladies don't speak English.

In STB you can easily find at least one girl in each apartment, who speaks English. And that could ensure you to find the place, or get a escort.

On the other hand, I think, it is easier to find a non-pro girl on tinder in Moscow than STB. There are lots of scam on tinder in STB.

BTW, I suggest Dasha from RAI apartment SPB. Her look is 7 of 10. But she can make you heaven.[/QUOTE]I have lived in St. Pet. And have been visiting Moscow frequently, lately. In my opinion Moscow is way better and at the price point now only slightly more expensive. I do like both places though.

The girls are way better looking in Moscow, some of the best looking girls in the world are from there. In my opinion Food, service and weather is better in Moscow.

The real issue, if you are planning on spending a lot of time in St. Pet. , you are always competing against Moscow. The smart and beautiful people are always going to Moscow, for short trips.

Good luck, both places are great and fun, you can not go wrong at either destination.

Moscow is a magnet for beauty, also from the regions. Marginally it is economically optimal for the youngest and prettiest princesses to ply the trade in Moscow. So what is the comparative advantage of Piter? In Jagdish Bhagwatis terms repudiating Tom Friedman's thesis: Why is the mongering landscape of Russia not flat like the tits of some of the most delectable young pretties? In plainer terms, why do not all young pretties get off on paid romanticism in Moscow? For once, Piter breeds her own set of poor, single mother raised, healthy, horny, tiny, slender, pretty-faced, small breasted, no-fat, ambitious, confused princesses. The roster gets continually rejuvenated to keep the histogram close to the edge of 18. Moving to Moscow carries the one-off cost of new lodging plus the cost of acquiring a new customer base. Secondly, Piter has great universities drawing young pretties from all over the country in the grad school lotteries. P4P and especially sponsorship is a very enjoyable and efficient option. For the really pretty ones, there is choice and it is safe with DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CIF / CIM. Two encounters with a sponsor per month can carry a young butterfly through student life if need be. Thirdly, super princesses like Germiona or Foxy Di remind us that Piter sports a thriving web porn industry. This draws some talent. Fourth and finally, Piter is large – hence anonymous and with 5 m males getting horny every other day (sic!) offering infinite demand. Finding one or more sponsorettes to your liking takes effort like every activity worth engaging in in life. Try. Stay safe, folks. Be nice to the princesses. They will give you what you need with a smile and with pleasure. Don't be a slave to your carnal urges, be a conscious connoisseur.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2282014]Moscow is a magnet for beauty, also from the regions. Marginally it is economically optimal for the youngest and prettiest princesses to ply the trade in Moscow. So what is the comparative advantage of Piter? In Jagdish Bhagwatis terms repudiating Tom Friedman's thesis: Why is the mongering landscape of Russia not flat like the tits of some of the most delectable young pretties? In plainer terms, why do not all young pretties get off on paid romanticism in Moscow? For once, Piter breeds her own set of poor, single mother raised, healthy, horny, tiny, slender, pretty-faced, small breasted, no-fat, ambitious, confused princesses. The roster gets continually rejuvenated to keep the histogram close to the edge of 18. Moving to Moscow carries the one-off cost of new lodging plus the cost of acquiring a new customer base. Secondly, Piter has great universities drawing young pretties from all over the country in the grad school lotteries. P4P and especially sponsorship is a very enjoyable and efficient option. For the really pretty ones, there is choice and it is safe with DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CIF / CIM. Two encounters with a sponsor per month can carry a young butterfly through student life if need be. Thirdly, super princesses like Germiona or Foxy Di remind us that Piter sports a thriving web porn industry. This draws some talent. Fourth and finally, Piter is large hence anonymous and with 5 m males getting horny every other day (sic!) offering infinite demand. Finding one or more sponsorettes to your liking takes effort like every activity worth engaging in in life. Try. Stay safe, folks. Be nice to the princesses. They will give you what you need with a smile and with pleasure. Don't be a slave to your carnal urges, be a conscious connoisseur.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's a well written piece. About finding sponsorettes, is zolushka-project a good place for that?

Also, can you ellaborate on the terms of the sponsorship?

Hi guys,

Markiza website is down and theu are no longer referenced on rusdosug or equivalents.

Do you know if they closed recently or changed their name?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2282014]Moscow is a magnet for beauty, also from the regions. Marginally it is economically optimal for the youngest and prettiest princesses to ply the trade in Moscow. So what is the comparative advantage of Piter? In Jagdish Bhagwatis terms repudiating Tom Friedman's thesis: Why is the mongering landscape of Russia not flat like the tits of some of the most delectable young pretties? In plainer terms, why do not all young pretties get off on paid romanticism in Moscow? For once, Piter breeds her own set of poor, single mother raised, healthy, horny, tiny, slender, pretty-faced, small breasted, no-fat, ambitious, confused princesses. The roster gets continually rejuvenated to keep the histogram close to the edge of 18. Moving to Moscow carries the one-off cost of new lodging plus the cost of acquiring a new customer base. Secondly, Piter has great universities drawing young pretties from all over the country in the grad school lotteries. P4P and especially sponsorship is a very enjoyable and efficient option. For the really pretty ones, there is choice and it is safe with DFK, DATY, BBBJ and CIF / CIM. Two encounters with a sponsor per month can carry a young butterfly through student life if need be. Thirdly, super princesses like Germiona or Foxy Di remind us that Piter sports a thriving web porn industry. This draws some talent. Fourth and finally, Piter is large hence anonymous and with 5 m males getting horny every other day (sic!) offering infinite demand. Finding one or more sponsorettes to your liking takes effort like every activity worth engaging in in life. Try. Stay safe, folks. Be nice to the princesses. They will give you what you need with a smile and with pleasure. Don't be a slave to your carnal urges, be a conscious connoisseur.[/QUOTE]You know what you are talking about, man! Saint Petersburg is truly the capital of sex industry in Russia. I've been here for several times before I moved here for work and now I'm already here for three mounths. Now I had a chance to ask suggestion from my colleague and he recommended me to choose company service which has the best opportunities and offers, so you can enjoy the Saint Petersburg to the maximum. Girls, amazing places, good restaurants, bars etc. On my first visits I counted on my luck, sometimes it worked sometimes not. This time I stayed satisfied.

[QUOTE=Bdenisov;2283668]Hi guys,

Markiza website is down and theu are no longer referenced on rusdosug or equivalents.

Do you know if they closed recently or changed their name?[/QUOTE]Markiza is totally closed, not only website. Because the had some issues with the police. However the girls from Markiz are still working, but in the other places. It is very common for them to move from one place to another and its hapening all the time.

Markiza changed format. Now they call themselves "frau m", whatever that means, and pretend to be an escort service. Too bad. I met a cute petite sponsorette there a few years back, 5 ft 3, 9 o pounds, blond, good BBBJ and cif. I enjoy scanning the salon websites. I only sleep with girls 18 to 23 yo with a strong preference to the young side of this range. I judge the photos and the body data. I really enjoy tiny, light girls, natural nails, 5 ft3 or less, 90 pounds or less. The salon websites lie a few years to the young side from time to time, but the body data usually is correct. Not all age data is wrong, as there are 18 and 19 yo out there. Often the young cuties do not last long in the salon grind. I always demand DFK DATY and BBBJ. I ask for anilingus and cif, and often get it after asking. Even if the young girl refuses initially, it usually is a good idea to push her envelope by asking. I repeat when I had a good experience. I usually then offer to meet her outside the realm of the salon in the hotel for the same price, which essentially doubles her pay. By then she knows and trusts me. By meeting regularly, say monthly or bimonthly, the girls usually evolve their sexual skill and willingness. Most whatsapp me when they need money, which is a good opportunity to ask for additional services such as anilingus, cif or prostata massage. Sometimes the young girl will reply offering BBFS and cip. If I feel I can trust her, that can be very enjoyable, but it is rare. I like the girls coming braided or with pigtails. They usually react playfully and willing, seeking to maximise their sex appeal. I love them to look real deep teenage. I tell them to come in jeans, sneakers, t shirt with little make up. I like that poor and simple young student look. I usually have them get entirely naked in the room with me still dressed. I like them to be submissive and look so vulnerable. All of them I can get to orgasm in this setting, which still surprises me. Gifts for love are obviously an aphrodisiac. I like skinny and emaciated. I like cupping their little buttocks while fucking cowboy. I love 69. I usually start out with massaging them and covering their eyes with a silk scarf. Let them dream while they enjoy their first pair of orgasms. I love it when my sponsorettes spread their legs and use my head and both my hands to get them off. I love mirrors. A hand mirror is like a camera allowing to watch the most pornographic angle on the young princesses. A finger in my ass. A hand on my balls. Their sallivating lower lip ranging over my glans while I push in and out, in and out. A pretty cum facial. I even enjoy watching my own pleasure ridden body in the mirror. But the young female body is infinitely prettier. The scarf lets her drift away in her own carnal fantasy land. For them it is easy money and physical heaven. If they are not into it I do not contact them again. I cannot even recall a session where the young pretty did not come. I only visit a salon when I feel I should rejuvenate my roster. Hunting for a worthy candidate is enjoyable, but I am not endlessly promiscous. To keep the trust of the young butterflies they must be fucked regularly, say quarterly or more often. And excellent behavior, abstention from alcohol etc. Is prerequisite, like in other situations in life.

[QUOTE=Andcol79;2283808]Markiza is totally closed, not only website. Because the had some issues with the police. However the girls from Markiz are still working, but in the other places. It is very common for them to move from one place to another and its hapening all the time.[/QUOTE]Shoot. Any recommandation in the center or Fontanka enbankment area? I read about Ray but cannot find out how to get there.

Have any of you tried independents on Rusdosug? Some of them say they speak english, it could be a plus.

[QUOTE=Bdenisov;2284123]Shoot. Any recommandation in the center or Fontanka enbankment area? I read about Ray but cannot find out how to get there.

Have any of you tried independents on Rusdosug? Some of them say they speak english, it could be a plus.[/QUOTE]About Rusdosug, I tried some time ago.

Like with the most of the websites I had an issues that there are a lot of fake photos, fake feedback and so on. Even in the most proven brothels there are only 1-3 girls who are good.

For example you are calling Markiza asked for Sveta the answer was that she is there, but once you come you see another girl. That is happening because the girls are moving from one place to another all the time.

You need to have good contacts and recommendations, particular phone numbers etc.

Especially if you don't speak Russian.

On this forum is prohibited to share the contacts. How long you are planing to stay in Peterburg?

Hi guys,

I want to ask something about the service in Karamelki. As you knou know 1 HR service is 4000 rubles. 1 hour is just for 1 time sex or you can have 2 times in 1 hour for 4000 rubles? Thank you for answering.

[QUOTE=Ordoabchao;2285918]Hi guys,

I want to ask something about the service in Karamelki. As you knou know 1 HR service is 4000 rubles. 1 hour is just for 1 time sex or you can have 2 times in 1 hour for 4000 rubles? Thank you for answering.[/QUOTE]You can have 2 times.

Hi guys,

I am going to Spb at the end of the month.

Since Markiza is closed, I have identified alternatives in the center: 007 girls near sadovaya and Ray on Fontanka and Liteiny. Anyone here has experience with those places? If so, could you please share directions to get there? Many thanks in advance.

Is it safe to shoot private porn in Russia (Saint Petersburg)? I'll be the producer, writer and fucker.

[QUOTE=Bdenisov;2295852]Hi guys,

I am going to Spb at the end of the month.

Since Markiza is closed, I have identified alternatives in the center: 007 girls near sadovaya and Ray on Fontanka and Liteiny. Anyone here has experience with those places? If so, could you please share directions to get there? Many thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I didn't see your post, was out of the city. I asked about Ray from locals, there was some girls from Markiz. Now they probably changed the location again. If you come next time, we can meet and I will tell you where to go. I will be here for a long time cause of the work. I know places with quality girls (better maybe only porno stars in London) though you can find porno stars here.

[QUOTE=Andcol79;2301143]I didn't see your post, was out of the city. I asked about Ray from locals, there was some girls from Markiz. Now they probably changed the location again. If you come next time, we can meet and I will tell you where to go. I will be here for a long time cause of the work. I know places with quality girls (better maybe only porno stars in London) though you can find porno stars here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer. I have delayed my travel to early April finally.

Thanks for the offer of meeting up, but I feel uncomfortable sharing face to face on this topic. However, if you feel like sending me a PM with a couple of addresses it would be appreciated.

I heard about karamelki. How can I find the exact location of this establishment? Do you have some more description? Is it necessary to call them in advance? Thanks!

[QUOTE=VivalDim;2301087]Is it safe to shoot private porn in Russia (Saint Petersburg)? I'll be the producer, writer and fucker.[/QUOTE]I would say safe, and you don't have to pay for bringing the girl to your location. But still a bit expensive though if you are not planning on selling the content. Last time I checked it was around 500 eu. The girl was available for 3 or 4 hours, free pic session. But you only have '1 shot', if you know what I mean. Lots of the same girls you see on porn sites though.

[QUOTE=ColdAF;2306017]I would say safe, and you don't have to pay for bringing the girl to your location. But still a bit expensive though if you are not planning on selling the content. Last time I checked it was around 500 eu. The girl was available for 3 or 4 hours, free pic session. But you only have '1 shot', if you know what I mean. Lots of the same girls you see on porn sites though.[/QUOTE]I would be careful, not worth the risk.

Hi guys,

Seems like I will visit St. Peter in September again.

Any new experiences? Links or addresses to apartments or clubs? Also I am looking for a girl-friendly hotel in the center of St. Peter (or close to center). No airbnb apartments please. Thanks guys. Will report again after visit.

Desa.

[QUOTE=DesasterArea;2270056]Hi there,

As a long time passive member I finally did a trip to st. Petersburg and wanted to share my experiences.

Things to bring with you:

- about 50-100 euros should be changed into rubles in your home country for 1st expenses (tips for taxidriver to hotel, liftboy, prepaid phonecard etc.).

I got a much better exchange rate in st. Petersburg. My VISA gold creditcard allows me to withdraw money from ATMs without.

Further charges 3 times a year. I used that and got 78.5 rubles / euro which is very good. Only better place was a suspicious looking.

Place in a backyard at Nevsky prospekt 83 (just a small sign with a Euro and Dollar sign on it pinting ack there). They got me 79,4 rubles / euro.

Without further fees.[/QUOTE]

Hello everybody,

I was 2 times in SPB, and used the escort service and incall studio. I want to try different things by next visit. Is there any clubs to recommend, where you can have drinks and pick up girls? And what is the price?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Georgest;2250617]I see a lot of posts about Salons but never seen anyone mentioning anything about Strip Clubs with full service. Looking for something similar to Angles in Moscow. Do they have Stip Clus in St. Persburg?[/QUOTE]Any experiences?

[QUOTE=ChinesePower;2314142]Any experiences?[/QUOTE]Does not exist.

I need help I'm here and went through the forum and found a saloon that spoke a little English and actually sent me the address. But the service is was awful and there was only one girl who was terrible and probably a 5. She should have paid me probably.

Can someone with experience actually tell me a reputable one or a couple. Because it's rough, especially since.

Most don't speak English, so you can get an exact address.

Hi Yardberry123,

I can't help you, but I will be in San Petersburg for the first time from tomorrow (first time).

If you want we can hunt together or share feedback.

[QUOTE=YardBerry123;2315205]I need help I'm here and went through the forum and found a saloon that spoke a little English and actually sent me the address. But the service is was awful and there was only one girl who was terrible and probably a 5. She should have paid me probably.

Can someone with experience actually tell me a reputable one or a couple. Because it's rough, especially since.

Most don't speak English, so you can get an exact address.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Saturn7;2315394]Hi Yardberry123,

I can't help you, but I will be in San Petersburg for the first time from tomorrow (first time).

If you want we can hunt together or share feedback.[/QUOTE]Sure man PM me. I'll share the 2 I've come across. I recommend getting a SIM card just outside baggage claim. If your phone is unlocked, has been huge here especially since I don't speak any Russian. It's been pretty disappointing from a mongers end, but it's some big holiday here so the festivals / parades have been cool. I'll be visiting Frankfurt Germany before I head back home. Frankfurt is a mongers paradise.

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RAI is where I had bad service, I can't recommend them. They told me all day they had a ton of girls, more than. The website showed. When I showed up one girl and her service was awful. The only good thing was this was one of the few places that would respond via WhatsApp. But lots of the tips here seem good but paying a cab driver 1000 rubles a trip seems steep when every cab ride for me is 200-300 rubles Yandex. This might be because I'm in the city. I'm pretty disappointed with this trip. I think Frankfurt will have to be where I stay.

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[QUOTE=ChinesePower;2272158]I agree with many experts in this forum. If you do not speak Russian, you better avoid the incall service in Moscow. I was in front the building of an Moscow brothel, and I couldn't find the entrance. Because the ladies don't speak English.

In STB you can easily find at least one girl in each apartment, who speaks English. And that could ensure you to find the place, or get a escort.

On the other hand, I think, it is easier to find a non-pro girl on tinder in Moscow than STB. There are lots of scam on tinder in STB.

BTW, I suggest Dasha from RAI apartment SPB. Her look is 7 of 10. But she can make you heaven.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YardBerry123;2315539]Sure man PM me. I'll share the 2 I've come across. I recommend getting a SIM card just outside baggage claim. If your phone is unlocked, has been huge here especially since I don't speak any Russian. It's been pretty disappointing from a mongers end, but it's some big holiday here so the festivals / parades have been cool. I'll be visiting Frankfurt Germany before I head back home. Frankfurt is a mongers paradise.[/QUOTE]Hi Yardberry,

I am just arrived in SPB.

Too sad panorama, very rainy (so girls covered), traffic. Not a fantastic start.

Sorry to read about Ray, I have (had?) great expectations to this salon.

But which Ray did you go? There are 4 Ray salon.

I would like to try the one in Fontanka and the one in Lytenom, they seem the best.

I will write here what will happen.

About our meeting, as the admin said, if you are not more than Normal member we can not communicate.

But this evening I will be in cafe del Mar., in Nevsky avenue at 20.00 to have dinner. If you can come I will wait you 15 minutes outside in front of. Black raincoat, blue jacket, grey trousers, middle age man.

(Sorry to be out of topic, last time).

[QUOTE=WingForwing;2304028]I heard about karamelki. How can I find the exact location of this establishment? Do you have some more description? Is it necessary to call them in advance? Thanks![/QUOTE]Hey mate,

You can find location of all their salons on their website - [URL]http://karamelkispb.info/contacts/[/URL].

I was is Spb in April, here is a little feedback.

I tried independents who speak English on Rusdosug.

The one I went to actually spoke very correct English despite having only "1 star" for this skill.

Nice apartment, good performance.

I think you can trust comments on this site to know if it is worth it or not.

I recommend this approach.

I also tried salons. My experience here is that you should be prepared to be disappointed. Photos are heavily photoshopped and the lower the price, the higher the chances the girl will not look at all like the pics. If you dig a little on internet, you can find pics of girls at Ray with the face: prepare for a shock. I don't advise salons below 4000/ hour. The other annoying thing is that the schedule is often finalized at the last minute and that only very few girls will actually be available. I suppose it is done on purpose to attract customers. Finally in a salon most girls will not speak English, which is less fun during the act, and can be avoided with independents on Rusdosug.

Apart from that, salons have more availability and have a fun side (the brothel atmosphere, the abandoned stairways to access them.) There is also always someone who will speak a little English.

In all cases always use internet to find a salon or an individual, call in advance and ask for precise instructions (an address is not enough: ask where to ring, what to say on the intercom, which floor) if you have this information you will be fine.

Gents,

Please adivise where is most fun. St Petersburg vs Kiev?? More variety and more available women for a trip on June.

Regards.

Boof.

[QUOTE=Boofer;2317650]Gents,

Please adivise where is most fun. St Petersburg vs Kiev?? More variety and more available women for a trip on June.

Regards.

Boof.[/QUOTE]Moscow would be my first choice. Do not waste your time, resources or money with Kiev, very overrated, Russia so much better then any destination in Ukraine.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2317787]Moscow would be my first choice. Do not waste your time, resources or money with Kiev, very overrated, Russia so much better then any destination in Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Hi,

How to enjoy Moscow? By intimcity NL? Or what your recommend before beauties-students ru? Ask the taxi driver randomly? Seems not easy.

SPB have reliable salon chains, but girls optic are 5-6.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2317787]Moscow would be my first choice. Do not waste your time, resources or money with Kiev, very overrated, Russia so much better then any destination in Ukraine.[/QUOTE]Hi,

How to have fun in Moscow? Use intimcity NL? Or your recommend beauties students ru (photos are fake) ? Or ask a taxi driver randomly? Any clear message?

Saint Petersburg have reliable salon chains, but girl optics are about 4-6.

Another member was asking me some questions by PM about my posts from around 2014 that things were getting worse in Russia. I thought why not share with everybody for our mutual benefit and organizational memory and learning.

I only go to Russia about once a year now, so I can't say I follow the situation closely. But I feel I know the place well enough and go there often enough to have a reasonably good feel of the overall direction of developments. Unfortunately I don't think things have changed since 2014. Either they are about the same (due the economic downturn caused by sanctions and the oil price collapse) stopping the mongering situation from getting totally bad, or the mongering has continued the same downward trajectory because Russia has actually managed to pull through the crisis reasonably well.

Yes you definitely get cold ones in Russia too. No kissing, no BBBJ, listerine on your nipples, upselling, etc. That has always been the case but it has become more frequent.

This whole thing about soul depends on how you define it. Only parts of what people think about as Russian "soul" are really long-term cultural. Part is that orthodox culture is similar to Catholic, so if one comes from a non-Catholic country that adds some soul straight away. Another part of "soul" of Russian girls is about the lack of men after World War II, and then maintained by heavy drinking, smoking and risk-taking which assured a continuing deficit of Russian men. That affected gender roles and ideas about women needing to grab a man if she had a chance. But now Russia is part of a globalized world and Russian women know they can have men from all over, so there is no deficit anymore (and also Russian men are taking a bit better care of themselves) and this is increasingly reflected in their culture / soul / attitudes. Whatever you want to call it.

And another Russian trait is that they can can also be more brusque than others in their rejections, like a Soviet shopkeeper.

Another important development is that truly beautiful or super-cute working girls are further apart. There are still some, but it is not shooting fish in a barrel like it used to be.

The post-Soviet period had some special characteristics, but those are not so relevant anymore. We are now in another era. Russians are well travelled, foreigners are not really exotic anymore, there are not so many poor people etc. This is especially true in the biggest cities. In rural locations it may not be so true, but there there are other barriers, especially if one wants to do efficient rapid-fire mongering like me. If you are looking for a nice wife and have the time and patience to go to the provinces I expect the chances of success would still be reasonably good.

If you have to have white girls, Russia is probably still one of the better places (perhaps along with Germany). One advantage is that when you do find a good one, they do know how to make Love / have sophisticated sex, unlike girls in SEA. But apart from those two points, it is not a particularly great mongering destination anymore.

Tant pis.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2318358]Hi,

How to have fun in Moscow? Use intimcity NL? Or your recommend beauties students ru (photos are fake) ? Or ask a taxi driver randomly? Any clear message?

Saint Petersburg have reliable salon chains, but girl optics are about 4-6.[/QUOTE]Completely disagree I had great results with Beauties Students. There are hot girls all over the place, in Moscow, if you have any game and a decent budget, it is a great place. Much better looking girls in Moscow then St. Pet, not even close.

Correct about, not many saloons in Moscow at least for foreigners.

It is simply a numbers game, any site, will work, just politely turn them away if there profile is fake, just not that difficult.

I met girls, from Tinder, Night Clubs and different sites.

I did not mess with girls under $120. $120-200, to sessions.

Stop complaining, get out there and meet some girls.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2318515]Another member was asking me some questions by PM about my posts from around 2014 that things were getting worse in Russia.[/QUOTE]That was me. I've never been to Russia, I don't know anything. But Mr Cucumber is a great help.

One thing that interests me is that Russian girls have a gene that makes them immune to feminism, or so rumor has it. That in itself is a great pull if you are, like me, interested in serious polyamory beyond mongering, and aghast at the widening gap between the sexes in the West.

Any more opinions on the direction of the Russian soul?

Karamelki in St. Peterburg was not bad. I wish they could have something similar in Moscow where you can choose the girl from line up? Any new salons in town? Thanks.

[QUOTE=WingForwing;2322022]Karamelki in St. Peterburg was not bad. I wish they could have something similar in Moscow where you can choose the girl from line up? Any new salons in town? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Intimsalonspb. Ru.

Sex-pride. Org.

[URL]erosspb.com[/URL]

Iskushenie-[URL]spb.com[/URL].

[URL]rayvspb.com[/URL]

Report if you try.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2318653]That was me. I've never been to Russia, I don't know anything. But Mr Cucumber is a great help.

One thing that interests me is that Russian girls have a gene that makes them immune to feminism, or so rumor has it. That in itself is a great pull if you are, like me, interested in serious polyamory beyond mongering, and aghast at the widening gap between the sexes in the West.

Any more opinions on the direction of the Russian soul?[/QUOTE]I've met some polyamorous couples in Moscow, but they were the exception to the rule. Women here are family oriented or money oriented. There are some feminists, but they will expect you to pay the bill nonetheless, if you know what I mean.

This is extremely difficult.

I went to address and could not find the door.

Luckily found a man to call them.

I go up, she brings in a beast, Camilla.

Nothing like she promised.

5000 + 5000 BBBJ.

I walked out the girl tried stopping me.

She wanted me to stay.

I could not do it.

I rather masturbate for free.

If I can buy anyone lunch / dinner or a few drinks for some tips.

I will be here all week.

PMs are welcome from anyone willing to help.

I cannot recommend Rubinstein 4.

I was promised thin, very pretty 19 yo.

She was at least 30 yo.

Not pretty, tall and built like a lumberjack.

I won't say she was ugly, but she was not even close to pretty.

I had major issues finding and getting in the building (in the cold pouring rain no less).

But some local Russian guys helped me.

I sincerely love Russians and Russia (non WGs).

I go in they show me 4 WGs.

I take one to the side to talk.

She wants 5000 extra for BBJs.

There is no way in 100000 years.

I'm paying to fuck this fat girl with a condom.

Then 5000 extra for BBBJ.

I laughed and walked out.

I went to my room and jacked off to porn instead LOL.

The building is a dump.

But the location is awesome next to the river.

And the apartment was huge and very bad ass.

I would really love to live there.

Sans the nasty WGs LOL.

What a truly incredibly beautiful city.

I think I see why this and Moscow are such absolutely shitty places to monger.

So many range rovers / bmw / Mercedes / Porsche.

That doesn't bode well for mongering.

Well I lost count of how many new Mercedes SUV I saw 2 day, being used as uber LOL.

I saw a police car that was a Mercedes.

When a city has money, most if not all, pretty would-be hookers usually find easy ways to get it.

Either easy well paying jobs, dime a dozen boyfriends with good jobs etc etc.

Leaving the nasty girls to hook, the nasty girls are more than happy to fuck guys better looking than them for exorbitant prices.

Not this monger! LOL.

I rather jack off for free!

Russian women are the most beautiful in the world (I spoke with several 2 day, so feminine and sophisticated.

I can't wait 2 return (no more trying 2 mongering here for me, I will be hunting for a wife next time).

I want to marry one!

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2326931]I had major issues finding and getting in the building (in the cold pouring rain no less).

But some local Russian guys helped me.

I sincerely love Russians and Russia (non WGs).

I go in they show me 4 WGs.

I take one to the side to talk.

She wants 5000 extra for BBJs.

There is no way in 100000 years.

I'm paying to fuck this fat girl with a condom.

Then 5000 extra for BBBJ..[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have had the complete opposite experience in both St. Pet. / Moscow. Great experience.

[QUOTE=CzarNicholas;2327345]I can't wait 2 return (no more trying 2 mongering here for me, I will be hunting for a wife next time).[/QUOTE]Just curious, what kind of visa do you plan to get? 30 day tourist visa doesn't seem enough to hunt relationships.

[QUOTE=Riina;2327477]Just curious, what kind of visa do you plan to get? 30 day tourist visa doesn't seem enough to hunt relationships.[/QUOTE]I have already.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2327428]Sorry, I have had the complete opposite experience in both St. Pet. / Moscow. Great experience.[/QUOTE]Thats pretty vague.

Let me guess, you like condoms?

There are brothels I have called in stp, that say on the phone.

Condoms for everything, I ask what is the surcharge for BBBJ.

They say not allowed.

Am is a group of brothels.

I asked what about your other locations? She said not allowed at any location, at any price!

I would not pay for a BJ with a condom if you put a fucking gun to my head.

Any monger that accepts a BJ with a condom needs to be shot on sight.

I don't even want sex with a condom.

I have been here over 2 years. I have been to almost all the notable salons.

The good side: The hooring is great in SPB, so far as quantity, ease of access, and safety is concerned. The salons offer good services. There are Russian forums, with reviews and up-to-date profiles. You will find no scams in these places. But for my taste, the girls are mostly average and below average. There are few who are just above. It depends on your standards.

The bad side: If you like beauty, wannabe models, fitness, glamour etc The stuff that gets thrust in your faces in Instagram everyday, then forget it. You not going to find those kind of looks in any 50 euro brothel here.

All the real glamour, and fantasy girls are now in the elite circles; travelling to Dubai, Maldives etc. Times have completely changed. Such beauty comes at an unrealistic price. With the growth of Instagram, it's all got to their heads and all these wannabe models believe they are superstars, with 1000's of followers and endless requests from men. They are obsessed themselves.

Don't waste your time with Tinder and Badoo. These apps are mostly full of scams. There are endless profiles of unrealistically beautiful women, who are looking for the high life. And most of it is bullshit.

If any girls messages you first and asks to meet, or seems easy. A red flag! You will certainly be scammed.

If you can afford to pay 100 dollars per head just for a deposit at a bar, then you can go to clubs like Biggimot, Madagascar, and the other clown places next to it. They are thriving with such girls. But you will pay over 200 dollars on drinks, and probably not even get a kiss on the cheek. Those places are very toxic. The women know what the men want and they play with it.

If you are willing to lower your standards, you might find decent girls. I find much better luck with girls who come from different cities in Russia, not the major ones. They are usually more down to earth.

Summary: go to salons or stay at home.

[QUOTE=DesasterArea;2270056]Hi there,

As a long time passive member I finally did a trip to st. Petersburg and wanted to share my experiences.

Things to bring with you:

- about 50-100 euros should be changed into rubles in your home country for 1st expenses (tips for taxidriver to hotel, liftboy, prepaid phonecard etc.).

I got a much better exchange rate in st. Petersburg. My VISA gold creditcard allows me to withdraw money from ATMs without.

Further charges 3 times a year. I used that and got 78.5 rubles / euro which is very good. Only better place was a suspicious looking.

Place in a backyard at Nevsky prospekt 83 (just a small sign with a Euro and Dollar sign on it pinting ack there). They got me 79,4 rubles / euro.

Without further fees.

- a Smartphone.

Get a prepaid phonecard at the airport. I got one from Tele 2 with Internet only (no phonecalls or SMS possible). This cost me 350 rubles for unlimited.

Internet. I used the phone with the following very helpful apps: Microsoft translator, google translator, whatsapp, google maps, Uber and a random mail app. This makes navigating and setting up dates much easier.

- a laptop.

Not a real necessity, but browsing the internet for dates, writing emails in the warmth of your hotel rooms is easier with a laptop. I also used it for music while having a girl on my room. Also having google chrome with automatic translation of Russian (kyrillic) websites at hand is very good. It would even be better for you can use Tineye..[/QUOTE]Hi,

This report has help me to find a way for me in sankt petersburg. I was my first time in Russia / Sankt Petersburg and I can not Russia language. Soooo I was looking for a good and cheap way for me to find girls. [URL]Rusdosug.com[/URL] was the way for me. Not to find the girls there, but to find addresses for apartments. So my time was limited and I have not use so much time to make contact. I was contact two agencies, because they have email so that I could use it.

First one was:

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=1723[/URL]

- No Answer.

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=2629[/URL]

- Answer in 30 min after E-Mail with address where I could meet the girls. (Address + Apartment-Number + Door Code).

The Meeting!.

I was two times (in the week) at the apartment from rusdosug. Both time it was a different collection of girls. One time 2 girls, other time 3 girls. Late afternoon and night.

To come to the place I use yandex. Taxi because google maps has problems to find the address and to drive with this "uber"-App is really cheap (depends of your place maybe between 2 and 5 euro in sankt Petersburg). The place of the apartment was not so fare away from the central, maybe 3-4 km.

It was a normal living-area, not dangerous or something else. To open a outside-door in Russia is it necessary to give the apartment + code in the terminal and put enter.

Then you go inside and someone will bring you to a room which one is not special but OK. Normally they could no English, but they have experience with English people. Then the girls will come to your room tell her name and go out. After this the mamasan will come and ask for name. Tell the name and fine. After this the girl will come to you and you could make your business with the girl. Use google translate, or (lucky at my second visit) there was someone with perfect English who translate everything. Then the action will start!

The Good point: Cheap. 2500 RUB (35 Euro) for one hour and two rounds, they will take the time.

The second Good point: Every time there was a young beautiful girl. The pictures of rusdogsug give you a feeling about the look. But hold on your mind, every girl which I saw in the apartment was not on rusdogsug.

The Bad point: No special service, BJ with condom, everything with condom, no kissing.

The second Bad point: Talking just with google possible.

I hope it will help someone.

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2337628]Hi,

This report has help me to find a way for me in sankt petersburg. I was my first time in Russia / Sankt Petersburg and I can not Russia language. Soooo I was looking for a good and cheap way for me to find girls. [URL]Rusdosug.com[/URL] was the way for me. Not to find the girls there, but to find addresses for apartments. So my time was limited and I have not use so much time to make contact. I was contact two agencies, because they have email so that I could use it.[/QUOTE]Hi Dodochen,

Your report really helpful, provide another way to find salon.

Because the price is cheap and tempting. Could you talk about the girls quality in that salon. Average looking girl? Ugly? 1-10 appearance rating.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2336883]I have been here over 2 years. I have been to almost all the notable salons.

The good side: The hooring is great in SPB, so far as quantity, ease of access, and safety is concerned. The salons offer good services. There are Russian forums, with reviews and up-to-date profiles. You will find no scams in these places. But for my taste, the girls are mostly average and below average. There are few who are just above. It depends on your standards.[/QUOTE]Hi Holden,

Last summer I try 3 major chain salons.

AM --Intimsalonspb. Ru.

Karamelki.

Markiza- close down last winter.

Girls quality about 3-6,not model type, most of them good service, I usually pay tips to have kiss.

Any other chain salons you try.

Which is easy to contact to the correct address, and good quality about girls?

[QUOTE=Dodochen;2337628]Hi,

This report has help me to find a way for me in sankt petersburg. I was my first time in Russia / Sankt Petersburg and I can not Russia language. Soooo I was looking for a good and cheap way for me to find girls. [URL]Rusdosug.com[/URL] was the way for me. Not to find the girls there, but to find addresses for apartments. So my time was limited and I have not use so much time to make contact. I was contact two agencies, because they have email so that I could use it.

First one was:

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=1723[/URL]

- No Answer.

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/salon.php?id=2629[/URL]

- Answer in 30 min after E-Mail with address where I could meet the girls. (Address + Apartment-Number + Door Code)..[/QUOTE]Sounds like you had wonderful time. Thank you for sharing important info.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2338360]Hi Holden,

Last summer I try 3 major chain salons.

AM --Intimsalonspb. Ru.

Karamelki.

Markiza- close down last winter.

Girls quality about 3-6,not model type, most of them good service, I usually pay tips to have kiss.

Any other chain salons you try.

Which is easy to contact to the correct address, and good quality about girls?[/QUOTE]Yes I went to all of those. Karamelki can be good sometimes. I like this chain. AM. Too many photoshopped photos, too deceiving.

Others I can recommend:

There is Eros spb. The premium one in Gostiny Dvor (2 minute walks from metro) is more expensive, around 6000/ hour. But sometimes there are nice girls.

Lady S. You can get great service here. Its a chain salon, so different addresses.

Forgetmenot (modeli-spb) Its OK. But also photoshopped photos. In reality, not as nice.

But all of them are 3-6 quality.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2338358]Hi Dodochen,

Your report really helpful, provide another way to find salon.

Because the price is cheap and tempting. Could you talk about the girls quality in that salon. Average looking girl? Ugly? 1-10 appearance rating.[/QUOTE]Depends. I don't like rating the girls, because everyone like other girls. It was the kind of next door girl with normal wear, not special but young and normal body. Never ask for age, but I think between 19 and 22 years old.

Markiza- chain salon close down last winter, is a cheap price salon, most 3000 RUB 1 hour, I have some good memories there.

Now I go to their website markizaspb. Club.

Change into [URL]http://fraum.info[/URL].

Became a high end elite agency.

Some new girls photo background are Saint Petersburg view, looks true.

Most of the girl are 10000 RUB up 1 hour.

But some are 6000 RUB 1 hour, looking good, anyone try this agency before?

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/96/[/URL]

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/92/[/URL]

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/109/[/URL]

The city is huge and has many choices.

I am only interested in tiny, as below 5 tft 5, natural and below 23 yo. Tall is not for me. Slim and light and pretty is great. The elf look. The gymnast look. The girly pigtail look. Hairless is easy and a must. No make up is much preferred, but I do not mind if the girl knows how to imbellish her beauty discretely. 18 to 24 yo who do it for gifts and money and recognition of their body and wit, for adventure and for their orgasms, for lifestyle or flair to feel desired and precious, for pleasure and ability to please a capable male, for positive feedback, and sometimes only for finding a fabric of regular activity at their stage in life so they have something to do and feel good about.

So many girls want a safe, non-committal sponsor who invites them to a hotel room, pays them say 5000 roubles an hour, and brings them to orgasm. After two hours of bliss, get back to regular life. Like a movie. Like a nap. Like an escape room adventure. Like a concert. Like a massage session. Just more intense with a whiff of romance and naughtiness. The girls all understand they must get their sponsor to cum, and develop energy and creativity to get there, including not allowing even the thinnest film of plastic between their lovers' tool and their own sugar walls. If the coice is between plan be or a facial, a facial all of a sudden looks like a great, safe, even fun alternative. Same goes for deep throating, sloppy BJ and anilingus.

Consider the trip to the salon merely as a filter. Most girls have strong opinions against their age peers who give their bodies for money. In the salons you will only find needy girls wlling to take the plunge, at least at that stage in life. An hour will set you back by max 7000 roubles (100 USD), and in most cases by half that. The salon is no guarantee to meet a perfect pretty every time, but it is a sure way to exclude the possibility of an embarrassing public rejection when you chat up a young girl in a cafe. If you don't find what you want, undress the best girl you found, make her make you cum, write off the hourly charge and try again. If it is really really bad, just leave politely.

Check the salon websites for age, size and photo impression of the girl you need. Call and book her. If all goes well, enjoy the hour and invite her to your hotel room for the next day. There are uncounted superb hourly hotels at 15 USD an hour. Ask her whether she wants to meet you outside the frame of the salon. This doubles her take, and many girls will love to do it if they feel you are safe to be with. Others will reject, so then book her for outcall through the salon. Bring them gifts like a shirt, a dress or a pair of sneakers. Sooner or later she will give you her cell phone number.

Salon talent is volatile. The girls working there for years are often not worth to patronize. The very young ones popping up on the salon web sites every week are the most interesting. Age and size are always honest (age honesty bracket -0, +2; all are 18 or older. Many 18 yo, for they know their pricing power.). Photo is often not available for the newcomers, since the girls must pay for the photographer session by themselves. This can also take time. But trying the newbies often gives great encounters driven by the natural curiosity and budding sexual energy of a young chick who just hopped off the bus and arrived in the big city. Many girls soon leave the salons because the work is repetitive and can be hard. They basically cannot choose or reject a customer, at least not often, without drawing the ire of the mama san or the other girls. If you are nice to them, they are to you.

I have no trouble finding delectable 18 to 20 yo and to replenish the list of girls I sleep with when a regular drops off or loses enthusiasm. Often college girls are among them. All tiny Slavic or Eurasian cuties. All have one or the other software bug why they are where they are, but then don't we all?

This is a very old report & during my visit to Russia during FifaWC and when I was seeing the match my friend banged a chick in the hotel and later we went to strip club in st. Petes. Awesome experience. No sex but the girl will know your kinks and will allow to do whatever you like just before the time ends and will say Luke time up and if I want more please pay more but worth it.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2318515]Another member was asking me some questions by PM about my posts from around 2014 that things were getting worse in Russia. I thought why not share with everybody for our mutual benefit and organizational memory and learning.

I only go to Russia about once a year now, so I can't say I follow the situation closely. But I feel I know the place well enough and go there often enough to have a reasonably good feel of the overall direction of developments. Unfortunately I don't think things have changed since 2014. Either they are about the same (due the economic downturn caused by sanctions and the oil price collapse) stopping the mongering situation from getting totally bad, or the mongering has continued the same downward trajectory because Russia has actually managed to pull through the crisis reasonably well.

Yes you definitely get cold ones in Russia too. No kissing, no BBBJ, listerine on your nipples, upselling, etc. That has always been the case but it has become more frequent..[/QUOTE]You're right, Russia ain't what it used to be. I first went back in 1996 and was frequently accosted in my hotel lobby by amazing 20 year beauties offering all night for 100 dollars, even a girl behind one of the desks in the reception just came up and said 'Do you wan seks', right in front of other staff! And then the phone in the room would go off at 11 pm every night offering sex, girls in the street would come up and ask the time and then ask what you're doing later. Those were the days! Quite a shock coming from the US. I suppose I was young then too, not 60 like today! Since then I've been about 10 times and it's steadily got more expensive and the quality has eroded away somewhat. Nightlight in Moscow was the go-to for awhile but that got filled up with hardened pros. Still if you have the cash there're really beauties to be had still, but it's no longer shooting fish in the barrel as Cucumber says.

Hi everyone,

Could anyone recommend some nice strip clubs in St. Petersburg? Not underground dumps but nice, quality places. Thanks in advance!

After finally reading TFF, I understood that its already a consensus here in the forum at least 2 things:

1-St. Petersburg is better in salons (and the prices compared to Moscow are a bit lower).

2-The Strip clubs are in Moscow (and the prices compared to St. Peter are a bit higher).

I wish I could recommend you some strip clubs in Petersburg, but unfortunately I am rather a saloni monger, so maybe another user can recommend you better than me.

But as a city (in general) I like more Petersburg, this beauty grey melancholy is just fine with me.

[QUOTE=Grazioli;2348435]Hi everyone,

Could anyone recommend some nice strip clubs in St. Petersburg? Not underground dumps but nice, quality places. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2348641]After finally reading TFF, I understood that its already a consensus here in the forum at least 2 things:

1-St. Petersburg is better in salons (and the prices compared to Moscow are a bit lower).

2-The Strip clubs are in Moscow (and the prices compared to St. Peter are a bit higher).

I wish I could recommend you some strip clubs in Petersburg, but unfortunately I am rather a saloni monger, so maybe another user can recommend you better than me.

But as a city (in general) I like more Petersburg, this beauty grey melancholy is just fine with me.[/QUOTE]I also read about salons but I couldn't find much about strip clubs.

Thank you for your response mate. I appreciate it.

I am looking for an actual strip club, without sex. Maybe more like an American style club where you can watch the pole dancers while enjoying a few drinks and maybe get a lap dance or two. If anyone else could recommend a place or two, it would be great!

[QUOTE=Grazioli;2348435]Hi everyone,

Could anyone recommend some nice strip clubs in St. Petersburg? Not underground dumps but nice, quality places. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE][URL]http://maximus-cafe.obiz.ru/[/URL]

The list:

[URL]https://spb.zoon.ru/night_clubs/type/striptiz/[/URL]

Maybe there will be electronic visa starting this October.

Enjoy your stay.

[QUOTE=Questner;2348960][URL]http://maximus-cafe.obiz.ru/[/URL]

The list:

[URL]https://spb.zoon.ru/night_clubs/type/striptiz/[/URL]

Maybe there will be electronic visa starting this October.

Enjoy your stay.[/QUOTE]This is great!! Thanks a lot!

Chain salon Karamelki is dead.

[URL]http://karamelkispb.info[/URL]

Last year I had great memories with girls in Chernyshevskaya.

Some girls move to modeli-spb. Club <last year name Nezabudki.

Good bye Markinza(2018 dead)! Good bye Karamelki (2019 dead)!

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A big pity Karamelki chain closed. They were IMO the best lining up salon chain in town.

Do you know why are they dead? Has it something to do with the mussarov (cops)?

Anyways, I am in Peter now, if somebody wants meet up for a beer drop me a message.

Modeli-spb I don't know yet. I will try to check them and report.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2355949]Chain salon Karamelki is dead.

[URL]http://karamelkispb.info[/URL]

Last year I had great memories with girls in Chernyshevskaya.

Some girls move to modeli-spb. Club <last year name Nezabudki.

Good bye Markinza(2018 dead)! Good bye Karamelki (2019 dead)!

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Hi guys,

Did nobody try fraum?

I will be back in Piter from 7th to the 10th of September. Will then head to Moscow for a couple of days trying the Sapsan for the 1st time.

If someone wants to meet up just wave.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2339888]Markiza- chain salon close down last winter, is a cheap price salon, most 3000 RUB 1 hour, I have some good memories there.

Now I go to their website markizaspb. Club.

Change into [URL]http://fraum.info[/URL].

Became a high end elite agency.

Some new girls photo background are Saint Petersburg view, looks true.

Most of the girl are 10000 RUB up 1 hour.

But some are 6000 RUB 1 hour, looking good, anyone try this agency before?

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/96/[/URL]

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/92/[/URL]

[URL]http://fraum.info/gallery/109/[/URL][/QUOTE]

All those dead salon site became high end escort.

Markizaspb. Club.

Webpage transit into [URL]http://fraum.info[/URL].

[URL]http://karamelkispb.info[/URL]

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I've been to Peter. Nice beautiful city. Just the weather is not my cup of tea.

There is some action going on on Kazankaya 35 (enter the yard, go to the left, then I think 1st floor, or Russian Etagi 2) ring and wait. I don't know the name of this place but the girls were nice. 4 girls lined up. I tried Sasha, very sexy petite blondinka. Friendly (very important for me). 6 k. Extras cost extra, for ex. Kissing 2 k, maybe other girls have other prices thou (if you are not ugly like me maybe you can get cheaper. Just kidding).

Then I visited 2 of four locations of the modeli chain. What was interesting: the prices not only vary between the respective locations, but the logic of the price difference I didn't get: I tried first Gostnyy Dvor branch, the price was 3 k for 1 h. For the bareback BJ I paid 2 k extra. 3 girls available, I chose the blond Simona. The next day I went to the Ligovsky branch, the price was more expensive: 5 k. I didn't understand the logic because, quite frankly the interior of Gostnyy Dvor was bigger and more modern. And truth being said, the girls were better also. Again 3 girls available on that specific time, I took the Asian one for a change. She was great, no complaint, but I didn't get why they demand more than the their colleagues at Gostnyy.

[QUOTE=DesasterArea;2357592]Hi guys,

Did nobody try fraum?

I will be back in Piter from 7th to the 10th of September. Will then head to Moscow for a couple of days trying the Sapsan for the 1st time.

If someone wants to meet up just wave.[/QUOTE]I want to tell you about one place but I don't know how to post here.

Post everything you know about the place: name, prices, etc.

[QUOTE=GuideInSpb;2360599]I want to tell you about one place but I don't know how to post here.[/QUOTE]You just posted a post here.

[QUOTE=GuideInSpb;2360599]I want to tell you about one place but I don't know how to post here.[/QUOTE]Can't you write a PM to me?

[QUOTE=GuideInSpb;2360599]I want to tell you about one place but I don't know how to post here.[/QUOTE]Perhaps just drop me a PM (personal Message)?

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2360280]I've been to Peter. Nice beautiful city. Just the weather is not my cup of tea.

There is some action going on on Kazankaya 35 (enter the yard, go to the left, then I think 1st floor, or Russian Etagi 2) ring and wait. I don't know the name of this place but the girls were nice. 4 girls lined up. I tried Sasha, very sexy petite blondinka. Friendly (very important for me). 6 k. Extras cost extra, for ex. Kissing 2 k, maybe other girls have other prices thou (if you are not ugly like me maybe you can get cheaper. Just kidding).

Then I visited 2 of four locations of the modeli chain. What was interesting: the prices not only vary between the respective locations, but the logic of the price difference I didn't get: I tried first Gostnyy Dvor branch, the price was 3 k for 1 h. For the bareback BJ I paid 2 k extra. 3 girls available, I chose the blond Simona. The next day I went to the Ligovsky branch, the price was more expensive: 5 k. I didn't understand the logic because, quite frankly the interior of Gostnyy Dvor was bigger and more modern. And truth being said, the girls were better also. Again 3 girls available on that specific time, I took the Asian one for a change. She was great, no complaint, but I didn't get why they demand more than the their colleagues at Gostnyy.[/QUOTE]San Gaetano, salons are the entry point to meet girls offering P4 P in SPB. Modeli (former Nezabudki) runs 4 salons at distinct adresses in the center city. They call them business, comfort, standard 1 and standard 2. They charge highest in "business" and lowest in standard. Girls get half + 100% of any adders beyond covered BJ and covered sex. Most offer BJ w / o condom and CIF / CIM for 2 T Rubel. Modeli price differently in different salons to get the better looking girls based in business and comfort, and the average looking ones in the standards. They reckon, if they have one fox in the line-up, 4 semi foxes and 4 dogs, then one girl will always be busy, 4 will be jeaolous and 4 w / o johns. Does it make biz sense? I doubt it. They used to have any level of quality at every address. Also, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But it is their business decision. They will change the setup and the pricing scheme from one week to another if it does not work out for them. Ligovsky Alisa and Regina are not so bad, good baby looks and good service. Eva at Ligovsky is young and petite and new. Marina at Pride club (a different chain of 2 salons) seems very popular. But the scene is too volatile for this forum to be useful at that level. Marina is in town only for 4 weeks. I was with two good looking petite 18 yo with real nice potential to become sponsorettes, but they could not take the salon grind and I was too busy with work to be there as a sponsor when they changed to a different life style and dropped the salon work. There are as many good customers as there are lousy idiots patronizing the salons. If this statement holds, the young butterflies have 3 poor experiences per day. No wonder a real beauty does not take that for long.

Do clubs like Modeli take credit cards? Is it advised to use cash instead? I just don't want to have a ton of rubles that I'm not going to use.

[QUOTE=LikeTheLife;2363222]Do clubs like Modeli take credit cards? Is it advised to use cash instead? I just don't want to have a ton of rubles that I'm not going to use.[/QUOTE]Cash only.

Hey guys,

I've been living in st Petersburg for 3 years now. I definitely have a good ear to the ground of the things going on, at least for a non-Russian speaker.

Guess I'll share my experience, a lot of things others have said here too.

1 - strip clubs.

Most strip clubs are absolutely BS. They're nice because you can usually touch but damn they really get you to pay for the premium. If you can say no, just enjoy some pretty "Meh" dancing and like to see only titties, you're all set. Just pay the entry, get beers, and tell all girls who come to you 'no'. If you have some money to spend, don't expect to hook up with them. They'll usually take you to a back room with a jacuzzi, rake up the hours, get you real drunk, and sometimes take money out of your wallet. Meh, it happens. Just know what you're getting into. The exception here is Maximus, which the girls will go home with you but at a high price. I had a girl actually drive me home once. Worth the price? No. We've all had better for that (25 k rub). Better to go to a salon.

2 - internet sites.

Rosdosug is the absolute best. Just Google when you're here and sometimes get behind a VPN. They're always blocking it. Just be smart here. Russians can easily look like super models so don't rule gorgeous women out. Just look at the power plugs and light switches in pictures, they're usually the best evidence of fakes. Otherwise, look for salons, if that's OK with you (you prob should do this). Intimspb is also a good site, which I'll get into next.

3 - salons.

I've had almost a clean streak of salons. One was really bad. Let me be honest. If I'm more sober, I call a salon and bring a girl home. If I'm stumbling around drunk, I usually go to one of their locations. Usually it's fine, if they can deal with that limp drunk. One time this place just off nevskiy, near plochad vostanniya (sp?) this chick stole $1000 from me. But I was reaaaaaal drunk and it's my own fault. Intimspb is a pretty solid and cheap chain, so is erosspb, there's another one on rosdosug that's pretty good when you click the English button (they don't really speak English) but it's always cool not to have those weird situations on calls with a non English speaker.

The biggest things I've found to avoid is straight up the girls that hang out in bars on the north end of rubenstein and around places like Del Mar. They're girls that lure guys to pay money to drink with them at bars that actually paid the girls to bring guys in. That fucking sucks.

I've been with a lot of girls here. Sometimes it takes a bit to investigate the girls you want on sites like rosdosug. I prefer to text and most girls only do phone calls. The independent girls here usually only accept calls and the ones that speak English have a pretty high price tag for not so good looks. I'm ok with having fun with a girl and Google translate, it's actually not so bad. Pretty funny if anything.

To summarize. My opinion is!

Use rosdosug or intimspb.

Pay attention to ads. If a girl looks smoking hot but she's like 4000 rub 2 hours, it's bullshit. Be smart here. A fine fox will cost a penny but you can still get a hot girl from intimspb for that amount.

Avoid strip clubs unless you're cool with spending money.

(and getting nothing from strippers, Maximus is the expensive exception).

Indies are phone calls, and the English ones are pricey and not that good looking.

Salons are choice.

Special note about salons. There's one near sennaya that's called magic Girls club. Wooo. I wish I could go to that sober. They have hotel rooms and nice girls. I've had lots of fun there. But they only have a broken website. I had a taxi driver take me to it one night. Now I randomly walk into it blacked out drunk. Not the best situation for me I know, but they've taken care of me, if you know what I mean.

Have fun!

[QUOTE=DudeBroGuy;2368108]Special note about salons. There's one near sennaya that's called magic Girls club. Wooo. I wish I could go to that sober. They have hotel rooms and nice girls. I've had lots of fun there. But they only have a broken website. I had a taxi driver take me to it one night. Now I randomly walk into it blacked out drunk. Not the best situation for me I know, but they've taken care of me, if you know what I mean.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Hi DudeBroGuy,

Thanks for you report.

You mention magic Girls club have a broken website.

There some salons nere Sennaya Square, like salon Chain lady s.

[URL]http://spb-putana.com/[/URL]

What is the magic Girls club website.

Long time lurker here. Just been to busy with girls in USA for years and wasn't able to travel until recently. Considering doing a trip from Germany to Kiev, to St Petersburg and wondering if a Street walker scene like that on the Kaiserstrasse in Berlin exists in places like St Pete or Moscow? I know years back it did, but never see anyone here posting about it. Or maybe I have not dug deep enough in this thread. I've always loved driving around and hunting for Hookers.

[QUOTE=DudeBroGuy;2368108]Hey guys,

I've been living in st Petersburg for 3 years now. I definitely have a good ear to the ground of the things going on, at least for a non-Russian speaker.

Guess I'll share my experience, a lot of things others have said here too.

1 - strip clubs.

Most strip clubs are absolutely BS. They're nice because you can usually touch but damn they really get you to pay for the premium. If you can say no, just enjoy some pretty "Meh" dancing and like to see only titties, you're all set. Just pay the entry, get beers, and tell all girls who come to you 'no'. If you have some money to spend, don't expect to hook up with them. They'll usually take you to a back room with a jacuzzi, rake up the hours, get you real drunk, and sometimes take money out of your wallet. Meh, it happens. Just know what you're getting into.[/QUOTE]I'll be there in October for a few weeks and look forward to implementing your advice. Was there in July and used fraum. Have you tried them? High prices but excellent.

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2368590]Hi DudeBroGuy,

Thanks for you report.

You mention magic Girls club have a broken website.

There some salons nere Sennaya Square, like salon Chain lady s.

[URL]http://spb-putana.com/[/URL]

What is the magic Girls club website.[/QUOTE]Their broke ass website is this: [URL]https://magicgirlsclub.com/gallery/interery[/URL] it is clearly shit. They don't include anything. I went there tonight actually. Its nice. 6000 rub and a girl takes you up to a really nice hotel room. You do your thing and you're out. Granted I've spent enough money there to where the girl told me I can just stay there all night LOL. Is right behind "chuck" the steak house spot. Its in a courtyard. Seems like nothing is there (especially now since they have construction). Writing this report made me want to go there again, and this night there was only one girl. We used google translate the whole time. I wasn't exactly pleased with it even though she tried hard. But I'm tough to please.

To the other guys asking questions here:

No street walkers, I've never seen them. I ride my motorcycle here all the time even on the outskirts. Never have, maybe I'm just blind. But I haven't seen it.

Salons are great. They're super accessible here. Indies. I dunno, I don't think its worth the extra price and hassle. Sure you get that 'extra attention' but at the same time I get what I want with salons. So choose your thang.

Hello guys,

I've come to study to this city but no one speaks English sadly, I am trying to get some girls but I don't know how to move in this city, also I wish I could visit any of this salons. If anyone could post just a map location or pm I'll be grateful.

Which 5 star hotels in St. Petersburg have girls prowling the lobby or bar?

[QUOTE=DudeBroGuy;2368108]Hey guys,

I've been living in st Petersburg for 3 years now. I definitely have a good ear to the ground of the things going on, at least for a non-Russian speaker.

Guess I'll share my experience, a lot of things others have said here too.

1 - strip clubs..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nobleknight;2370466]Hello guys,

I've come to study to this city but no one speaks English sadly, I am trying to get some girls but I don't know how to move in this city, also I wish I could visit any of this salons. If anyone could post just a map location or pm I'll be grateful.[/QUOTE]Start with mamba and search for girls that speak English.

[QUOTE=Bb0000;2370666]Which 5 star hotels in St. Petersburg have girls prowling the lobby or bar?[/QUOTE]Intercontinental, Hyatt Regency.

[QUOTE=JRavens064;2371033]Intercontinental, Hyatt Regency.[/QUOTE]Whoops. Thought this was the Kiev forum. I don't know of locations in SPB. Salons. Just go there.

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2229298]Here is some basic guidance.

1. Go to Petersburg. Moscow is too big, rich and unpleasant; other cities are too small.

2. If you can afford it, stay in a hotel in the center, ideally near the Ploshchad Vosstaniya end of Nevsky Prospekt. Then you will have hundreds of working girls within a 3 km radius.

3. Get a Russian SIM card with a big allowance for data (they cost little, but you have to have your passport along when buying it).

3. Install the Yandex app on your phone. That is how you will get around most of the time.

4. Go to salons. Chasing after individual girls you find online is extremely ineffective and potentially risky for several reasons.

5. If you don't speak Russian, establish a relationship with a driver who speaks English to take you around (take a few taxi rides using your Yandex app and until you find a driver who speaks some English and is willing to help). He should be willing to follow you all the way to the door of the salon. Agree with him in advance to pay him 10-20 dollars per salon he gets you into + regular taxi fees for all driving.

Everything else is red herrings.[/QUOTE]Much in the same way I've been doing it for years in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus. In Poland there's the advantage of Sex Clubs, Salons in a club atmosphere. I agree about the risks in going out alone in pursuit of individual girls contacted online not to mention the time and hassle involved.

A centrally located hotel and have girls come over and the play is on my own turf in safe surroundings.

A friendly, reasonably honest, English speaking driver in such places and situations is indispensable.

Thanks for the guidance.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2374284]Much in the same way I've been doing it for years in Ukraine, Poland, Belarus. In Poland there's the advantage of Sex Clubs, Salons in a club atmosphere. I agree about the risks in going out alone in pursuit of individual girls contacted online not to mention the time and hassle involved.

A centrally located hotel and have girls come over and the play is on my own turf in safe surroundings.

A friendly, reasonably honest, English speaking driver in such places and situations is indispensable.

Thanks for the guidance.[/QUOTE]And.

Doing my research and RTFF ing as back as possible and in a way I'm sold on SP to learn the Russian Ropes there First before heading to Moscow.

Not as young and adventurous as I used to be, I want to play it as comfortably as possible even to get a feel for the Place.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;2374545]And.

Doing my research and RTFF ing as back as possible and in a way I'm sold on SP to learn the Russian Ropes there First before heading to Moscow.

Not as young and adventurous as I used to be, I want to play it as comfortably as possible even to get a feel for the Place.[/QUOTE]Good luck, in my opinion Moscow is way better. SP is good, but Moscow the sky is the limit. Decent budget and some hard work you will love it. You can not go wrong at either destination.

QUOTE=DramaFree11;2375309 Good luck, in my opinion Moscow is way better. SP is good, but Moscow the sky is the limit. Decent budget and some hard work you will love it. You can not go wrong at either destination. [QUOTE.

Thanks DF,

Did Moscow a long time ago on a Weekend package tour with an older Family member, went to the Bolshoi for a very lively performance of Swan Lake. From what I remember and photos I still have, Moscow was huge, different to any European City. . I wasn't old enough to monger but I did score with a Finish Girl tourist similar age to me in her Bedroom at Intourist Hotel Moscow which was a huge complex used by tour groups mainly from Finland. I still remember that she was going on to Leningrad, SP to catch the ship back to Helsinki with her group, the well known Booze Cruisees.

What I really hate, is being tied down with fixed dates and booking accommodation on The Russian Visa as I like to travel on a whim and Ukraine, Poland are perfect for that. Cost of travel to Moscow from London is no big deal.

I never use Airbnb anywhere, a centrally located hotel with a lobby, bar, room service, or even better a Night club on site as in few other EE destinations is how I go about planning my mongering trip.

Not really fussed about hard hunting online or venturing out too far to nail any girl. Salons in the centre or close, Strip Clubs, clubs are just fine by me even if I don't find anything that I like as I don't live in a mongering Desert.

Hey legends,

Am in Saint Petersburg for a couple of days staying at the Radisson near Ploshchad' Vosstaniya.

From what I can read on the forum, my best bet are Salons, as incall is not convenient as I am sharing a room with a work buddy.

Are there any recommendations of Salons within walking distance? I'm willing to travel via uber / yandex if its near by?

Happy to share some beers with anyone near by.

[QUOTE=PpSeeker;2382800]Hey legends,

Am in Saint Petersburg for a couple of days staying at the Radisson near Ploshchad' Vosstaniya.

From what I can read on the forum, my best bet are Salons, as incall is not convenient as I am sharing a room with a work buddy.

Are there any recommendations of Salons within walking distance? I'm willing to travel via uber / yandex if its near by?

Happy to share some beers with anyone near by.[/QUOTE]Personally I think Ploshchad Vosstaniya is the best location in Petersburg for mongering because because that area has the highest concentration of salons. My info is a little outdated, but there are maps of both individual girls and salons in that area (and many of those listed as individuals may actually be salons of some kind). But they are in Russian, so if you can't read Russian you may need to try to use the automatic translation function on the chrome browser to translate the whole pages automatically as you open them. Not sure whether it will work on maps.

[URL]https://magick-girl.net/intim-karta[/URL]

[URL]https://b.fotomodeli3.com/map/[/URL]

There are also good lists of salons, like this one [URL]http://sexkompas.info/spb/salons.[/URL] But the problem is understanding their location, so map format might be better.

If you want to know how to work your way around the salons, there have been some detailed posts about that on this forum some way back, including from me, perhaps a few years ago.

Hey,

I would not recommend going to salons. The ladies are worn out there.

It's better to find someone in bars (if there are no problems with communication) good place BTW street Rubinshteyna.

Or there are sites like mamba, badoo (have app).

I'm going to visit this city again soon.

I lived here for several years, if you have questions, guys ask.

[QUOTE=GavinBelson;2387326]Hey,

I would not recommend going to salons. The ladies are worn out there.

It's better to find someone in bars (if there are no problems with communication) good place BTW street Rubinshteyna.

Or there are sites like mamba, badoo (have app).

I'm going to visit this city again soon.

I lived here for several years, if you have questions, guys ask.[/QUOTE]What lucky thing you got without using salon in SPB.

Some questions. Sir, are you a handsome young man?

Bars, you pick up non pros? Or pick up hooker?

Any SCAM in mamba.

[QUOTE=GavinBelson;2387326]Hey,

I would not recommend going to salons. The ladies are worn out there.

It's better to find someone in bars (if there are no problems with communication) good place BTW street Rubinshteyna.

Or there are sites like mamba, badoo (have app). [/QUOTE]Yes, very worn out. The whoring scene, in my opinion, is quite depressing here. There are lots of salons, but for my taste nothing interesting. About Rubinstenya, a scammer hotspot. There are some fancy bars, but the women are very snobby. It depends really on your standards.

Mamba and badoo. I definently don't share your opinion there. I think they are fucking terrible apps. Endless hot girls, most of which are either fakes or ones promoting their instagram pages.

I don't even know where to look for higher priced escorts. Rusdosug. Hardly any. Art Escort, and Fraum. Heavily photoshopped, an illusion of models, and I heard negative reviews about them.

Instagram. This is a source of endless fantasy. There really is not end. The most ideal hookers, models, everything. But forget about ever trying to get any response on there.

The salons are the best way to approach the matter. Russians also have vk chat groups (vk = vkontakte = Russian facebook). So slalon girls are worn out. Partially true. Do your homework and study the salon websites. Who is new? Who is 18 yo? Who has a petite slim body? Who has neat photos instead of braindead vulgarity, tattoo pizza, I-have-a-complex-screaming-fingernails, ridiculous high heels instead of sexy small nude feet and exposed soles? (The girls pay themselves for having their pics taken. Pay attention to detail. A studio charges about 100 bucks and the pics embellish the truth. A stunner who knows how to pose photographed with a smart phone in a poor setting is recognizable as a stunner and can be a hint towards a great love girl.) There is lots of turnover, lots of fresh arrivals and lots of salexiteers (sic! Saloon exiteers. An important term for the times we live in). The salons lie only reg. The age by 2 years to the lower end, unless the girl truely is 18 or 19, in which case they don't have to lie. Weight, body height, breast size, shoe size, figure data are usually quite accurate. Spend 5000 - 6000 Ru (80 $ US) per hour and test the girls. If you hit it off well, great. Invite her to your hotel room. If you need a visa, they now have 8 day electronic visa for free. You can cook it on the web on the counsular website, I hear. Takes 15 min or so. Russia is close to Europe. Russian girls are Caucasian or Asian or in between (I really love those). The quality varies widely, but that goes for produce in a Western supermarket as well. Shop wisely. Russia girls offer BBBJ even if the salon website claims they don't. Most websites enthusiastically advertise the service. CIM, deep throat and DFK are almost always on the menu. I spent time in the past 10 months with four different 18 yo and a 19 yo. Looks and service ranked from 6 to 9. It is a chance game but extremely rewarding if you put effort in it. Looks 9 on two occasions for little material expenditure is cool. Deep until heavy drooling (mild puke) is such a pleasant love service. CIF is ordre du jour and also very cute when the face is young and pretty and sweaty and messy from foreplay. Get smart and avoid general prejudice. You only miss out, boomers.

Looking for VK chat rooms but it's a shot in the dark. My English search provided sexy Russia and men's motivation. If you can provide a list to this that will be great.

A concise guide to a complete noob to Russia would be great too. I'd like to find those 18 and 19 yo. I find youthful beauty super attractive even if they are plain janes.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2389875]The salons are the best way to approach the matter. Russians also have vk chat groups (vk = vkontakte = Russian facebook). So slalon girls are worn out. Partially true. Do your homework and study the salon websites.

I spent time in the past 10 months with four different 18 yo and a 19 yo. Looks and service ranked from 6 to 9. It is a chance game but extremely rewarding if you put effort in it. Looks 9 on two occasions for little material expenditure is cool. Deep until heavy drooling (mild puke) is such a pleasant love service. CIF is ordre du jour and also very cute when the face is young and pretty and sweaty and messy from foreplay. Get smart and avoid general prejudice. You only miss out, boomers.[/QUOTE]

So for the first time in well over a decade, I will be heading back to Russia early next year. This time SPB, not Moscow. I was hoping someone might be able to provide info as to what currencies should be used. Did not see anything about this in recent postings. Last time I was there, the protocol was paying with dollars, crisp new bills, old bills were outright rejected. In my recent research for SPB, I am seeing prices for salons and independents quoted in Rubles, Dollars and Euros.

From your experiences, are there any preferences? Rubles okay? Or best to stay with $s or Euros? I would welcome any input and suggestions.

Thanks.

Stay Safe.

AHT169.

[QUOTE=Aht169;2401664]So for the first time in well over a decade, I will be heading back to Russia early next year. This time SPB, not Moscow. I was hoping someone might be able to provide info as to what currencies should be used. Did not see anything about this in recent postings. Last time I was there, the protocol was paying with dollars, crisp new bills, old bills were outright rejected. In my recent research for SPB, I am seeing prices for salons and independents quoted in Rubles, Dollars and Euros.

From your experiences, are there any preferences? Rubles okay? Or best to stay with $s or Euros? I would welcome any input and suggestions...[/QUOTE]Payment is generally expected in roubles nowadays. You might get somebody to accept dollars or euros if you don't have anything else, but it is not the norm and it can't be taken for granted. If you do try with dollars, it is still best to to have crisp new notes.

Getting roubles out of an ATM is safe an easy in Petersburg.

Pay in Roubel and only in Roubel and only cash. Bring US $ or EURO, say 1 000. Exchange 50 at the airport in Piter, after baggage pick up, prior to customs. Safer. Bad fx rate. Take ekonom taxi for 1050 Roubel (15 US $) to anywhere in the city center. Book that taxi after customs but before leaving the gated area. Safer. This way you can ignore the 50 sharks who want to sell you a taxi ride. Once in city center, exchange a few hundred US $ or EURO. Makes you liquid in Roubel. Avoids going to a teller machine which may only allow150 US $ worth of Roubles at a time. Of course teller machines are ok and not risky. Look at modeli-spb. Club. Mariana, 20 yo, 1,65 m, 45 kg looks appetizing to me. Have not been with her. Regina I have had. Good performer, CIF ok. Look at sex-pride. Org. Marina 18 yo, 1,57 m, 45 kg is not so bad. Truely 18. Deepthroat is good. CIF ok. Iskushenie-spb several appetizing ones on offer. Check also Kurtizanki. Happy hunting. Please report your experiences.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2402060]Pay in Roubel and only in Roubel and only cash. Bring US $ or EURO, say 1 000. Exchange 50 at the airport in Piter, after baggage pick up, prior to customs. Safer. Bad fx rate. Take ekonom taxi for 1050 Roubel (15 US $) to anywhere in the city center. Book that taxi after customs but before leaving the gated area. Safer. This way you can ignore the 50 sharks who want to sell you a taxi ride. Once in city center, exchange a few hundred US $ or EURO. Makes you liquid in Roubel. Avoids going to a teller machine which may only allow150 US $ worth of Roubles at a time. Of course teller machines are ok and not risky. Look at modeli-spb. Club. Mariana, 20 yo, 1,65 m, 45 kg looks appetizing to me. Have not been with her. Regina I have had. Good performer, CIF ok. Look at sex-pride. Org. Marina 18 yo, 1,57 m, 45 kg is not so bad. Truely 18. Deepthroat is good. CIF ok. Iskushenie-spb several appetizing ones on offer. Check also Kurtizanki. Happy hunting. Please report your experiences.[/QUOTE]A big thank you to both of you for your insights and recommendations. I am very happy to hear that Roubles are now the way to go. Much rather pay in local currency. This will make things so much easier. Also appreciate the recommendations on the options. Should be fun, looking forward to it!

Again Thanks!

Stay Safe.

AHT169.

Some weeks ago I was in a salon in Piter. Last time (maybe in the summer of 2019) I was in this specific salon the price was 3 k for hour, incl. BJ covered. So I went there, chose the girl, after 5 minutes she came back: Here is the towel, there is the shower, do you want some coffee or tea? Yes, please black tea with no sugar. Oh and before I will bring your tea. Give me the cash. So I gave her 3 k rub. She looked at it and said, oh the price for 1 hour is 5 k. I had only 3 k in cash and maybe some hundreds for the taxi left. In my mind I thought "oh OK, the price changed, it happens, maybe I will go out and look for an ATM and come back" (I'm not rich but 2 k is not a big deal for me), but I didn't say anything I just showed her my wallet and she counted and said podozhdi and left. Then she came back after few seconds and said "OK". She took all the money from my wallet and brought to the mamasan.

When she came back I said I will pay the difference in my next visit. She said "xorosho". Some days after that I asked my friend who is a PRO monger about the price for that specific salon, and he confirmed the current price is 5 k for 1 hour.

I hate to negotiate prices with a WG, this is not for me. Call me a sucker, but I usually pay the prices they ask me for (if it's reasonable and I can afford that).

Now for a change of subject. Some weeks ago I was in a salon and inside of the room there was a sign saying "If the girl gives you her contact data, you will get 1 hour sex for free". IMO it's strange to write this in the room. What should we understand from it? Are they trying to scary the girls not to give their phone number or are they trying to motivate the clients to ask for her number? I am confused.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2411214] Some weeks ago I was in a salon and inside of the room there was a sign saying "If the girl gives you her contact data, you will get 1 hour sex for free". IMO it's strange to write this in the room. What should we understand from it? [/QUOTE]A harry dude will come in and give you a good corn holing.

[QUOTE=Riina;2411371]A harry dude will come in and give you a good corn holing.[/QUOTE]Ha ha, maybe, Idk. In fact I don't care because I don't ask for contact data. I got a jealous GF, so no way I will get into trouble because of it.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2411214]So I gave her 3 k rub. She looked at it and said, oh the price for 1 hour is 5 k. .[/QUOTE]Which salon change the price from 3000 to 5000? Ray? Lady S?

I have seen the same or similar signs in various salons. They are meant to discourage the young butterflies to give you her cell phone number. If you like her age, looks or services, ask her anyway. She will give it to you if she likes you, or she will kindly decline.

The salons offer safety and discretion for the young butterflies. Hence some girls will decline and prefer to share the money 50/50 with the salon. 5000 Rubel (70 bucks) for an acceptable quality girl is normal these days. The extra (1000 for BBBJ, 1500 for CIM / CIF) the young girl keeps entirely for herself. In the young butterflys' view, outcall is more dangerous than incall. Hence many love girls will not agree to outcall if you are with her for the first time. The mama san will ask the young girl if she is ready for outcall, even if you call by phone. Nevertheless, I had it happen that a mamasan sent a quite inexperienced, tiny and very pretty just turned-18 to my hotel room, who I never met in the salon. I had a hunch from the photo and her body data that this would be a nice match. In the nice hotel environment this lass turned out to be so eager that her deep throat BBBJ went beyond sloppy to the level of mild puke. Very messy, very exciting. Finished CIF in her very pretty face seconds thereafter.

Hi guys,

Has anyone been to Art Escort or Fraum? Reviews would be much appreciated.

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[QUOTE=NoMarriage;2400683]Looking for VK chat rooms but it's a shot in the dark. My English search provided sexy Russia and men's motivation. If you can provide a list to this that will be great.

A concise guide to a complete noob to Russia would be great too. I'd like to find those 18 and 19 yo. I find youthful beauty super attractive even if they are plain janes.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]VK chat is not at all reliable always. They sometimes seem like chatbots who send you message like I like you, how are you etc, but in a few days, that account would be automatically blocked for reasons god knows. If you have a genuine friend in vk that can work, I mean to explore more but you should have met the person in real life. Otherwise just like FB their are many people in vk who keep on increasing their friends. Often you will find sexy young girls in bikinis in vk. Well don't fall in that trap. Most of them are scammers.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2424962]Hi guys,

Has anyone been to Art Escort or Fraum? Reviews would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hey Holden123,

Sorry for answering so late.

I have been to Fraum. The lady arranging everything for the girls spoke quite good English.

Its a quite big apartment with (at that time) about 6-8 girls. All in the range 6-9. Most of the slim.

The only downside was, that I went there with a friend of mine and they gave me a room, my friend.

Had to pass to get in his room. But as we know each other this was no problem.

As far as I remember the girl set me back 8000 rubles for 60 minutes (without specials). BBBJ, pusslicking included.

[QUOTE=Holden123;2424962]Hi guys,

Has anyone been to Art Escort or Fraum? Reviews would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes, please, I would appreciate this info a lot too! Think Fraum is kinda shining star among night clubs in Petersburg, I think. OT: I like Petersburg a lot, it doesn't look like pure Russia, its more Western Europe. But place worth visiting. And visiting night clubs too.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2402060]Look at modeli-spb. Club. Mariana, 20 yo, 1,65 m, 45 kg looks appetizing to me. Have not been with her. Regina I have had. Good performer, CIF ok. Look at sex-pride. Org. Marina 18 yo, 1,57 m, 45 kg is not so bad. Truely 18. Deepthroat is good. CIF ok. Iskushenie-spb several appetizing ones on offer. Check also Kurtizanki. Happy hunting. Please report your experiences.[/QUOTE]Are these pictures real ones?

Are pictures in salons' pages usually real?

How about independents in something like rusdog?

[QUOTE=Desin;2487455]Are these pictures real ones?

Are pictures in salons' pages usually real?

How about independents in something like rusdog?[/QUOTE]Body data is accurate. Pics posted in the salons I mentioned are always of the gals you can book. Sometimes the pics embellish the truth, but if you learn to read them, the pics really can be telling even if faces are blurred and poses selected. A small breast, a slim tummy or a narrow hip cannot be faked. A slightly larger than proportional head or hands or feet can reveal the love girl's tinyness. Often an Asian face is blurred and they leave you wondering. Euroasians or Asians in Russia often have the petite slim appeal, but the face can sometimes disappoint. Caucasians can make more money. Many young Euroasians know they can sell their petite slim physique and feel disadvantaged in the Russian labor market. Age data is often skewed 2 - 3 years to the lower side except for those who are truely 18 year old Many of those can be found, often retiring from the job after 3 months. Got to pick them when they are available. It can give them a head start earning money when moving to Piter from the province. Met many such.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2491760]Body data is accurate. Pics posted in the salons I mentioned are always of the gals you can book. [/QUOTE]Thank you for this. Do places like Intimspb have English-speaking staff? If I'd know zero Russia, could I still contact the place or just go there?

[QUOTE=Ikima;2136604]Good afternoon to all,

Me and my wife will comes in Saint Petersburg. For your experience is possible for a married couple goes to salon, in that case which one you can suggest to us? And also we tried to use.

This two website [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/saint-petersburg/page-2[/URL] , [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/showgirls.php?dev=26645[/URL] but noone seems to have whatsapp. Are this two website reliable?. Also may we know if Belmond hotel is girls friendly, o is better W St. Petersburg voznesenky. I'm really sorry for lot of questions. Thank to everyone for help us.[/QUOTE]On each site in the girl's profile you can see her phone number. Of course they all use Viber and WatsApp. For example, on this site: [URL]http://prostitutki-xxx.xyz[/URL] I always find girls with whom I communicate in Viber. They will answer all your questions. They live in St. Petersburg and know everything very well. But not everyone can speak English. So you can run into misunderstanding. But on this site girls are perfect. SUPER.

Good afternoon to all.

Me and my wife will comes in Saint Petersburg. For your experience is possible for a married couple goes to salon, in that case which one you can suggest to us? And also we tried to use.

This two website [URL]http://rusprostitute.com/saint-petersburg/page-2[/URL] , [URL]http://prostitutok-net.org/showgirls.php?dev=26645[/URL] but no one seems to have whatsapp. Are this two website reliable?. Also may we know if Belmond hotel is girls friendly, o is better W St. Petersburg voznesenky. I'm really sorry for lot of questions. Thank to everyone for help us.

Answer for Ikima.

On each site in the girl's profile you can see her phone number. Of course they all use Viber and WatsApp. For example, on this site: [URL]http://prostitutki-xxx.xyz[/URL] I always find girls with whom I communicate in Viber. They will answer all your questions. They live in St. Petersburg and know everything very well. But not everyone can speak English. So you can run into misunderstanding. But on this site girls are perfect. Super.

[QUOTE=Desin;2513694]Thank you for this. Do places like Intimspb have English-speaking staff? If I'd know zero Russia, could I still contact the place or just go there?[/QUOTE]Post Covid, go there, book a room in the city center, best with a view to the street. Then call a salon. They want to have you as a customer. The mama will either hang up in frustration because of your lack of Russian, or she will reply in broken English or she will hand the receiver to the love bird who speaks some English. Couples: Never heard of it. I am sure some girls will provide, but that requires explanation. Tough without English. You might try a sauna and talk a girl into drinking with you and your spouse. Try going without your spouse first, get to know a mama, get to know a girl, then ask her back to your hotel to help ypu and your spouse out of your misery. Back to the other question. Russians are not well versed on how to deal with foreigners. Nevertheless, if you are a decent looking and decently dressed white man undr 50 they will try to accomodate you. Let the taxi driver walk you to the salon, up the stairs, to their door. Pay him 1000 Rubels (12 bucks) extra. If you are a heavy Usbek construction worker with perfect Russian, they will treat aforementioned Englishman better. If you are a person of color, whether dark or brown or light, they also might have their hangups. I do not condone anything. Just the facts as I have witnessed them. Stay safe. Treat the devushki well. Keep asking if I have not made myself clear.

I usually visit Piter alone, so I can explore the salonis myself how I want when I want and for how long I want. But back in 2019 I was a similar situation like you and went for a weekend of fun in the North. With my then fuck buddy from Moscow. She was not aware that I am a regular monger. But she understood that I was very sexual. Before the trip I said, 'look we will try to experiment this weekend'. She is a doctor of medicine, divorced with no kids who never has been in a FMF format before, so she was nervous about it. So I said, ne volnuysya, vse budet xorosho. So we took the Sapsan and left. We tried to text some of the known salons, but for my surprise it was not easy to find a decent WG who will participate in the FMF. So I called one independent that I've fucked sometimes in the past, she was willing to come over, but only on Sun, as for Sat she was already booked. We didn't know what to do. Long story short we went to our very last alternative which was a kinky event organized mainly for couples, and yes, again I have to convince her to take part as she was very reluctant, but then we agreed under the condition that she will not fuck any guy (her condition BTW). We focused to interact with single girls or couples where the husband is just watching. It was in a location with sauna, so in the sauna we met a nice couple, started to small talk with them and with a lot of game I managed to more or less seduce his wife, a young and slim brunetka, we ended up fucking some minutes later. I was so focused on her that for a while I forgot that I was there with a girl. Brunetka's hubbie, a blond guy tried his luck with the doc, it did not work, but at least they seemed to have a nice chat. After the amazing sex with brunetka we went eat something (simple snack and tea was included in the price BTW), there we started to schmooze with a sexy single girl who was eating as well (with her we had what were actually looking for the 'holly threesome', and for my surprise the doc was very active with the young lady and even went down there). Now to some numbers as far as I remember: I would guess 40 to 50 people in that evening, and we did it with 2 couples and one single girl, to participate in the event we paid 1500 Rub (single guys paid double as far as I remember and for ladies the entrance was free), which is much less than 1 hour of FM-sex at any salon. We both went back to the hotel very satisfied and impressed with the level of the event. The only drawback: there is no guarantee that you will fuck someone, but if you are a social person and know at least basic Russian, it helps.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2525119]Post Covid, go there, book a room in the city center, best with a view to the street. Then call a salon. They want to have you as a customer. The mama will either hang up in frustration because of your lack of Russian, or she will reply in broken English or she will hand the receiver to the love bird who speaks some English..[/QUOTE]Thank you for your answer.

I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.

[QUOTE=Desin;2529665]Thank you for your answer.

I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.[/QUOTE]Your own effort matters. Instead of a translater, ask a taxi driver. Take any 30 yo male. Look, if you pay them 2000 Rubel an hours, 25 bucks, they will srive you around to the salons. They will ring the bell and walk you up. They will check the websites for you on the smart phone. If you specify age and size range, they will know or they will check and they will gladly drive you there.

[QUOTE=Desin;2529665]Thank you for your answer.

I don't have any of the problematic attributes you mentioned, but the lack of language would be a problem. I get the sense that I would need a paid wingman or wingwoman to do the work for me, who would understand my taste in women and what I want. Then I could have them come over my place.

If you, fellow forum users, where in my shoes, where would you try to find such a person? There would be no need to let him / her inside the apartment, so that part would be safe. He / she would still be able to find out where I'd stay (Airbnb), so the person should not be inclined to robbery. Only for honest translators work.[/QUOTE]Desin.

No wingman / middleman needed. 1st off learn a little Russian. Not hard to learn 100 essential words.

Language is pretty much a non issue. Call the salons, if no one speaks any English (rare) call back later someone will or call one of the many other salons. Same with the independents. After several calls one day without great results a sultry blonde answered the phone says of course she speaks English then asks if she should bring a friend. YES Please do. Turns out they were 20 & 21 year old cousins. My jaw dropped when I got to the courtyard to bring them up. Full Lesbian / service followed making for a great afternoon.

KEEP CALLING!

The taxi drivers will have access to all the salons. Use them to find the salons, make sure you get the salons cards for later trips. This eliminates the biggest problem which is finding the physical location of a salon the 1st visit. Major pain in the ass! I have spent more than a few hours trying to figure out where the hell is such & such salon. Get to know the salon manager she can be helpful later with recommendations and also home delivery. Once you know the salon location take a gypsy cab to it. Much cheaper.

The other option is to call a salon and ask them to send a car with a few girls to choose from. Pick what you like. Get a card and also get the girls cell for later service.

Getting great service in 2004 when I started in Piter was not that hard. Now there is much more English and technology. Be persistent.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2530567]Your own effort matters. Instead of a translater, ask a taxi driver. Take any 30 yo male. Look, if you pay them 2000 Rubel an hours, 25 bucks, they will srive you around to the salons. They will ring the bell and walk you up. They will check the websites for you on the smart phone. If you specify age and size range, they will know or they will check and they will gladly drive you there.[/QUOTE]If a Taxi driver walks you up there will be a price increase to cover his commission. Better to get to the building and have the salon buzz you in or come down and fetch you at the door.

My. 02 rubles.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Guido88;2530572]If a Taxi driver walks you up there will be a price increase to cover his commission. Better to get to the building and have the salon buzz you in or come down and fetch you at the door.

My. 02 rubles.

Guido88.[/QUOTE]Perfectly true. I just meant to convey that a male taxi driver of virile age is often your friend in matters P4 P. And if he isn't, try a different taxi driver. Translators or tour guides often do not know the salons and are not available anyway. A taxi driver will not rob you. You see his license in the cab and you see the plate of the taxi. All is steered via taxi apps in St Petersburg. You can track any taxi driverm and they will behave. And yes, they may charge you. But you can agree on the charge to have him guide you to the salon beforehand. Some taxi drivers stick with you until you have found your young and pretty princess. They stand to earn by picking you up after the session. I have never approached a taxi driver in this manner, for I speak Russian, but I have many many helpful taxi drivers volunteering their broken English in lands East of the EU. Another item: The girls who speak English often charge more or are not as friendly as the pure Russian speakers, because they get extra business by being one of the very few English speakers. It is worth it to use google tanslate and to learn a few bits of Russian.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2531526]Perfectly true. I just meant to convey that a male taxi driver of virile age is often your friend in matters P4 P. And if he isn't, try a different taxi driver. Translators or tour guides often do not know the salons and are not available anyway. A taxi driver will not rob you. You see his license in the cab and you see the plate of the taxi. All is steered via taxi apps in St Petersburg. You can track any taxi driverm and they will behave. And yes, they may charge you. But you can agree on the charge to have him guide you to the salon beforehand. Some taxi drivers stick with you until you have found your young and pretty princess. They stand to earn by picking you up after the session. I have never approached a taxi driver in this manner, for I speak Russian, but I have many many helpful taxi drivers volunteering their broken English in lands East of the EU. Another item: The girls who speak English often charge more or are not as friendly as the pure Russian speakers, because they get extra business by being one of the very few English speakers. It is worth it to use google tanslate and to learn a few bits of Russian.[/QUOTE]I will at times use a real taxi to find a salon. Some carry books with all the salons in Piter. Doesn't seem to matter the age of the driver, if they are male they usually know where to go. Or they will call around to figure it out. Defiantly safer but I have seen the Taxi Mafia price gouge when they can whether its outside the Mariinsky Theater or at the hooker bar on the Griboyedov Canal. Personally I really like the gypsy Taxi setup in Piter. Both cheap and safe if you follow a couple of safety rules. Real Taxis are a ripoff world wide 90%?

Yes there are a few girls that will up charge who speak English but its up to the buyer to shop around. If your in a fancy hotel the English speaking girls at the bar will ask ridicules prices. For the most part this for me has never been a problem despite only speaking 100 words or so of Russian. "NO" translates into any language.

My experience with the Russian people has been that they are more than helpful when your trying to find an address. I have stopped passerby and asked them to speak with the salon I have on the phone and direct me. Of course they did not know the purpose.

Piter is a great city for hookers with many options, then there are the semi-pros and freebies. Hitting clubs and nicer restaurants you will encounter 2 girl teams looking for for a single man with a few rubles to spend for an evening of threesome sex. Great city!

Best.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Guido88;2532516]r at the hooker bar on the Griboyedov Canal. [/QUOTE]Out of curiosity: Where is this? Close to the crossing with Nevskyi?

I lived and worked in SPb between 1995-2005. Best years of my life.

I also lived some time on Canale Griboyedova, close to the Bank Bridge (Lions with wings).

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2532530]Out of curiosity: Where is this? Close to the crossing with Nevskyi?

I lived and worked in SPb between 1995-2005. Best years of my life.

I also lived some time on Canale Griboyedova, close to the Bank Bridge (Lions with wings).[/QUOTE]Coming from Nevsky Prospect the tribunal bar was 2/3 of a block down on the left. Looks like its no longer open. I went a couple of times on my 1st trip. It was a little pricey for girls and the women were a little more seasoned "older" hookers. I quickly found there were much cheaper and better options for younger women, salons, home delivery ect.

I share your feeling on "Best years" Piter in the mid 2000's was an incredible place to acquire beautiful women. Now with the Ruble at 74.5 to the dollar Russia is on sale. I am considering going back in August as part of a RTW trip.

Best.

Guido88.

[QUOTE=Guido88;2535949] the tribunal bar [/QUOTE]Tribunal I remember to be close to the Neva, not far from the Monument of Peter the Great. But may be, I mix up.

Anyway, I spent many, many visits to 'Marstal', just before the "Church of Spilled Blood". According to Streetview, it looks now to be a Jazz Bar.

May be, you are right: "City of Angels" worth a visit again.

[URL]http://prostitutki-xxx.xyz/[/URL] seems to have great girls and great prices. Are the photos real or is it bait and switch? Can you spend a hour in SP with a beautiful girl in a salon for around 3000 to 4000 rubles?

I keep on complaining about the scene here. Forget about beauty in these salons. Its all weathered, below standard. I am always disappointed. Now the prices have drastically gone up. ArtEscort, with their dubious photoshopped pics are mostly are trying to glamourise weatherd MILFs and package them as premium, but they are far short of it. And they want 15-20 000 rubles. Now 4000 rubles gets you the rock bottom. The times have totally changed. Rusdosug is full of overweight mums, and the ones who look nice are usually not like that in real life. There are lots of choices but not what I call beauty at all.

Go on Tinder, Instagram and compare. There you will find everything you heart will desire. Technology has completed destroyed the scene. Now there are premium catalogues. Of which the budget catalogue option offers meetings with beautiful girls for 1000 euros. The rest of the catalogues are from 1000 Euros up for a meeting /+ holiday travel to Dubai. The Sheikhs in Dubai have dominated the market. A lot of them have migrated to Only Fans.

If you are not picky like me, then maybe you will have fun here. Either way you are going to have pay much more than before.

TGIF. Finally.

Slavic beauties have been in the bucket list for ever. Brazil has taken all the available time of mine, simply becos of the awesome service, luxury and ease of mongering. (Scandallo in SP and 4 x4, Solarum, MonteCarlo in Rio) etc. , has been my favorites.

But Slavics beauties have been a big dream.

I have RTTF like atleast 50-75 hours already.

Still somethings are not coming together.

1. Are there proper Clubs like where we can lounge around, sit, drink, check out the girls and take them inside? If so what are the club names. I am thinking 3 days of tourist in Moscow and mongering in ST. Petersburg?

2. which area to stay that will be comfortable. Budget is not too low. Can afford a safe hotel.

3. are there hotels like Ukraine Kiev Intercontinental that has tons of working girls in the lobby.

4. Russian is very poor. So incall from a website, going to an unmarked apartment and coordinating address / taxi without language will be a hassle. So is the mongering scene made up of a lot of Salons?/ Clubs?

5. how is the service. Are they pretty dolls and we pretty much do the job and get out or. Do they work hard to impress. Pretty much standard stuff expectations. Brazil the girls do some awesome lip-kiss as if you are their boyfriends and they at times enjoy the act very much too.

6. what is the typical cost per hour. 100 USD?

Even though I have read enough on this forum, the outcome for me to plan something is not coming clear. I am thinking of August to travel.

If you are a non-white, non-black how is the reception with the calls. I heard the girls can be a little bit on the racist side?

Thoughts. Is it worth it or.

Thanks in advance.

I keep it short. 1 Holden 123 is wrong. There are gems to be had. 2 70 to 90 US $ per hour is a good number. 3 If you can afford 100 US $ per night, try e. G. A room at Nevysky Grand. Book room with window towards the street, nice flair, also with your young butterfly. The higher the nicer, but not 7th (top) floor. 4 Avoid strip clubs. 5 Avoid the illusion of hotels with hookers in the lobby. This business model has long been rooted out. 6 Check amurforum dot spb 7 google salon devushi etc. Body weight and height data are correct, age is embellished by 2 - 3 why to the lower side. But pics and data don't lie. 8 Go to a salon, spend time with a girl of your liking, then ask for a 2nd about in your hotel room. 8 Russia is not poor. 9 Many girls drop into salon work only to drop out soon. Catch them while they are fresh 10 White and hispanic and Asian is no poblem. Dark skin / Indian descent: prejudices abound. But the girls cannot refuse you in the salon, and if you are a gent they get over their hangups. 11 Happy hunting. 12 Watch Covid visa restrctions. 13 the o why o you are I and t e are and e t h o m e w o are k be e f o are e t are a v e l l I and g t o SPB.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2552128]I keep it short. 1 Holden 123 is wrong. There are gems to be had. 2 70 to 90 US $ per hour is a good number. 3 If you can afford 100 US $ per night, try e. G. A room at Nevysky Grand. Book room with window towards the street, nice flair, also with your young butterfly. The higher the nicer, but not 7th (top) floor. 4 Avoid strip clubs. 5 Avoid the illusion of hotels with hookers in the lobby. This business model has long been rooted out. 6 Check amurforum dot spb 7 google salon devushi etc. Body weight and height data are correct, age is embellished by 2 - 3 why to the lower side. But pics and data don't lie. 8 Go to a salon, spend time with a girl of your liking, then ask for a 2nd about in your hotel room. 8 Russia is not poor. 9 Many girls drop into salon work only to drop out soon. Catch them while they are fresh 10 White and hispanic and Asian is no poblem. Dark skin / Indian descent: prejudices abound. But the girls cannot refuse you in the salon, and if you are a gent they get over their hangups. 11 Happy hunting. 12 Watch Covid visa restrctions. 13 the o why o you are I and t e are and e t h o m e w o are k be e f o are e t are a v e l l I and g t o SPB.[/QUOTE]Can you list the best salons? I'm new to the city and will be staying close to the winter palace. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2552419]Can you list the best salons? I'm new to the city and will be staying close to the winter palace. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Try nezabudki salon devushki or pride sex org salon devushki. Pride and nezabudki are near city center. Pride has 2 outlets, nezabudki 4 if I am not mistaken. Find their websites on google. Pick a girl whose photos you like and, crucially, whose age and body stats you like. You got to deal with some Russian to make sense of the websites. Put the damn smart phone away. Use a laptop. Do your preparation. The pictures usually reveal a lot about the girls, braindead tattoos, vulgar nail polish or extravagant nail size, demeaning piercings, awfully colored hair. Avoid. Pick based on available info. It is close to the truth if you add 3 why to the age. The salons also list the services the girls render. There is no such thing as good and bad salons. It all depends on which young beauty just arrived from the province and must make ends meet. There are many other salons and you can read about them on amurforum dot spb. Having the girls parade for you in the salon is mostly miss and seldomly hit. Pick beforehand and call in or have a taxi driver do that for you. Best if you call the night before or in the morning. Like all things in life, this takes effort and smarts, but the rewards are palpable. Pm me if in doubt.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2552625]Try nezabudki salon devushki or pride sex org salon devushki. Pride and nezabudki are near city center. Pride has 2 outlets, nezabudki 4 if I am not mistaken. Find their websites on google. Pick a girl whose photos you like and, crucially, whose age and body stats you like. You got to deal with some Russian to make sense of the websites. Put the damn smart phone away. Use a laptop. Do your preparation. The pictures usually reveal a lot about the girls, braindead tattoos, vulgar nail polish or extravagant nail size, demeaning piercings, awfully colored hair. Avoid. Pick based on available info. It is close to the truth if you add 3 why to the age. The salons also list the services the girls render. There is no such thing as good and bad salons. It all depends on which young beauty just arrived from the province and must make ends meet. There are many other salons and you can read about them on amurforum dot spb. Having the girls parade for you in the salon is mostly miss and seldomly hit. Pick beforehand and call in or have a taxi driver do that for you. Best if you call the night before or in the morning. Like all things in life, this takes effort and smarts, but the rewards are palpable. Pm me if in doubt.[/QUOTE]Thanks I love all the salons check this one out [URL]https://fraum.life/gallery/?page=1[/URL].

I visited st pete few times about year ago before whole covid craze. I was mostly using rusdosug for company, 5 different girls through that site and all but one were good experiences, the one I'm not happy with had real pictures and all the services she advertised were delivered, but badly and she was ice queen all around. Out of brothels I tried spbprostitutki78, price was quite a bit higher than with indies but otherwise they delivered what was agreed. I would suggest using rusdosug, mamba, telegram groups or such and dealing with indies, I met few of the girls through rusdosug multiple times and they actually lowered their prices, for example one of my telegram group hookups wanted 8000 for 2 hours with owo, DATY, DFK, CIM first time few times we met, on third visit she said 5000.

Piter = St Peter, short for St Petersburg. Great if rusprostituki works for some of us. For me it has been unproductive. There are many ways. Some report on Mamba and Tinder as a gateway. Also for me unproductive in Piter. The hot pic profiles are usually scams. Many girls looking for long term relationships. All these sites require preparation on part of the girls, a photo, a text, willingness to sign up to a site etc. , ability to reply in English. Nevertheless, many of the girls who need and want to monetize their youth and beauty are not so sophisticated. They are more at ease to call a salon. The mama sans handle them well and integrate newcomers seamlessly just as many girls leave the salon circuit after a few months. The salon means physical safety and patterns the girls' schedules, as availabilty is publsihed a week ahead and the girls must meet up on time and sober. The salon takes half the fee, the girl keeps half plus any extras she charges her lover. That makes salon work roughly 6 times as lucrative as serving coffee in a coffee shop. Yet the quantity of clients often is emotionally overwhelming for some girls. Once they have repaid a debt, earned enough starting capital, or, crucially, after picking up enough phone numbers from happy clients cum sponsors for the fun hour here or there, they quit. Russia is not as judgemental as the puritan West. People understand that young people need money and that girls have this venue. Of course there usually are vitriolic reactions if it happens in your own family or if a girl that has consciuosly decided to forego this venue of work is asked by a monger for a date for money. Nevertheless, there are many young smart cuties who are good lovers yet practice safe sex and who boost their income by working in a salon for a time. There are gems and good personae to be be found. How to join the fun? Relax. Book a week in an inner city hotel in Piter. (right now Covid does not permit tourist visas). Enjoy the city. Study amurforum dot spb. All Russian. Takes effort. Read this forum for how to proceed. I would say one in 30 devs in the salons meets my standards (youth, petite slim physique, foto self presentation without depravity like tattoos or silicone, or red hair or saggy body etc.). The only thing the salon website pics does not show is the face. And yes, there can be surprises. But I find all young girls to be beautiful if their body is great. The non-Cindy-Crawford faces are often super cute and much more modest in their behavior. St Petersburg is so nice, even if you fail in the salon quest you will enjoy a week over there. A strip club or a massage is always a safe and easy fallback, and there will be a girl for every lad in need. It is not really a matter of your wallet if you come with a Western salary. It is more your effort and your attitude to stay healthy and slim and sporty and casually yet well dressed.

If you want a real good time with a girl who speaks some English: Adel, Salon Pride at Vosstania. 5000 Rubel per hour + 2500 one time for deep sloppy BBBJ CIM or CIF. Body 8 Face 9. Service 9. Advertised as 19 why, 156 cm, 40 kg. Real 24 y, 158 cm, 40 kg. Body data is close to advertised, age is imbellished to the young side by the salon. Russia is in a funk. Rubel at 80 to the dollar, 90 to the euro. Escort girls cannot travel. So beautiful "Adel" signed up at salon pride in Aug of last year to earn some money. Now why does she not sign up at Fraum, as the other lad suggested I visit their site. Don't overestimate the girls. She does not even know Fraum exists. Fraum charges 10 000 Rubels per hour. I pay max 5000, so Fraum is out of the question and Pride fits my willingness to pay. Other girls choose their salon by proximity. Don't want to commute much. In the case of Adel, she is chosen by any customer who does not prepare and who comes and asks for a parade of the girls. She is clearly the standout, miniature body, slim waist, big head, small breast, impeccable yoga trained body, cute face. She wins a customer every time. So she stays put at that salon. This happens a lot. Girls feelings are hurt if they are not picked or another girl is picked right in front of their eyes. This phenomenon explains why there is no such thing as "a good salon". I did not know Adel at all prior. I selected her based on her photos and in my quest to keep the roster young. I found a gem on first try, but yes, I know the game. I have zero connection to this salon. Just honest reporting. I will not repeat. She was super sexual, came twice, as did I, with a very enjoyable and powerful facial, which she does not mind. Yet she is a poser, a girl who once danced, who enjoys the exhibition. I like shy and less experienced and younger. But she is great and recommended hereby.

Hello everyone,

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[QUOTE=RomeoAlex;2558894]Hello everyone,

Last year the information from the site helped me in Berlin, and I decided to help. Soon the euro and many will come to this city.

My links that I use for meetings will help you find girls.

Telegram-channel [URL]https://t.me/escortwoman[/URL] (messages from Indi and salons).

Legal Massage-salons (without sex).

Prime-spa. Ru.

Euphoria-[URL]spb.com[/URL].

[URL]www.massagspb.ru[/URL]

Best Brothels.

Prostitutki. Spb. Ru.[/QUOTE]What's the best brothel in Peter hands down?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2569136]What's the best brothel in Peter hands down?[/QUOTE]See the places on the suggested links. I'll add more.

Brothel www. Amoralle. Club.

Stripclub Virgins see lub-v-spb. Ru.

[QUOTE=RomeoAlex;2569428]See the places on the suggested links. I'll add more.

Brothel www. Amoralle. Club.

Stripclub Virgins see lub-v-spb. Ru.[/QUOTE]There seems to be alot of salons and options to satisfy in the city. Very underrated.

Yes, Piter is underrated if compared to Moscow if we talk about saloni / brothels. Not talking about strip clubs, I don't visit strip clubs. It has the best salons without exaggerated expensive interior with Italian furniture like in Moscow. I am not there to see (pay) for the interior; I want to good looking WGs. So one more reason why the prices are lower in Piter. OK, a decent and clean bed play a role in the mood, yes, but other than that, I'm good. A city much smaller than Moscow but with a larger number of good affordable salonis. I don't know why, maybe because Moscow is the capital, and that's why the cops raid it more often.

A pity that the third wave is growing fast, new restrictions are coming, otherwise I would visit Piter again this weekend.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2570135]There seems to be alot of salons and options to satisfy in the city. Very underrated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RomeoAlex;2569428]See the places on the suggested links. I'll add more.

Brothel www. Amoralle. Club.

Stripclub Virgins see lub-v-spb. Ru.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.amoralle.club/[/URL] [URL]http://reflexspb.com/devushki/liya---.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2570286]Yes, Piter is underrated if compared to Moscow if we talk about saloni / brothels. Not talking about strip clubs, I don't visit strip clubs. It has the best salons without exaggerated expensive interior with Italian furniture like in Moscow. I am not there to see (pay) for the interior; I want to good looking WGs. So one more reason why the prices are lower in Piter. OK, a decent and clean bed play a role in the mood, yes, but other than that, I'm good. A city much smaller than Moscow but with a larger number of good affordable salonis. I don't know why, maybe because Moscow is the capital, and that's why the cops raid it more often.

A pity that the third wave is growing fast, new restrictions are coming, otherwise I would visit Piter again this weekend.[/QUOTE]Sorry in advanced if this is a stupid question, but heading to Piter and wanted to know what these Salonis are. Any recommendations on which ones to go? Greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Fech75;2597898]Sorry in advanced if this is a stupid question, but heading to Piter and wanted to know what these Salonis are. Any recommendations on which ones to go? Greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Is it open are Lockdowns restrictions over in peter? Are they mandating the vaccine crap?

[QUOTE=Fech75;2597898]Sorry in advanced if this is a stupid question, but heading to Piter and wanted to know what these Salonis are. Any recommendations on which ones to go? Greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]Please read the forum, as there is a ton of information here about salons. Using the "Search Thread" function works very well.

We look forward to reading your trip reports about mongering in SPB.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2597970]Is it open are Lockdowns restrictions over in peter? Are they mandating the vaccine crap?[/QUOTE]It is opened and there doesn't seem to be any restrictions. I stayed up until 3 AM on Sat and 2 AM last night.

When I arrived, they only required a PCR test, not vax proof.

[QUOTE=Fech75;2598876]It is opened and there doesn't seem to be any restrictions. I stayed up until 3 AM on Sat and 2 AM last night.

When I arrived, they only required a PCR test, not vax proof.[/QUOTE]Where did you go for fun? Any reports? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2552625]Try nezabudki salon devushki or pride sex org salon devushki. Pride and nezabudki are near city center. Pride has 2 outlets, nezabudki 4 if I am not mistaken. Find their websites on google. Pick a girl whose photos you like and, crucially, whose age and body stats you like. You got to deal with some Russian to make sense of the websites. Put the damn smart phone away. Use a laptop. Do your preparation. The pictures usually reveal a lot about the girls, braindead tattoos, vulgar nail polish or extravagant nail size, demeaning piercings, awfully colored hair. Avoid. Pick based on available info. It is close to the truth if you add 3 why to the age. The salons also list the services the girls render. There is no such thing as good and bad salons. It all depends on which young beauty just arrived from the province and must make ends meet. There are many other salons and you can read about them on amurforum dot spb. Having the girls parade for you in the salon is mostly miss and seldomly hit. Pick beforehand and call in or have a taxi driver do that for you. Best if you call the night before or in the morning. Like all things in life, this takes effort and smarts, but the rewards are palpable. Pm me if in doubt.[/QUOTE]Please share the links for the Salons as google is not showing the results. Is there a catch or a particular way salons could be researched?

[URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/vse-devushki/[/URL]

Salon name pride.

Adel is real cute and a good love girl. 24 yo, slim petite cutie. Site says 19. A lie. She looks 19 ish.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2605358][URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/vse-devushki/[/URL]

Salon name pride.

Adel is real cute and a good love girl. 24 yo, slim petite cutie. Site says 19. A lie. She looks 19 ish.[/QUOTE]How many girls were available when you got there?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2605955]How many girls were available when you got there?[/QUOTE]I had her come over to my hotel. So I cannot say. I pick by pic and body data. Had a number of good experiences there, but I never go without appointment with a petite young one. There are many many many salons. I skim their websites until I find one who appears to be to my liking. The hotel room experience is better for the girl and for me, just nicer, and more adventurous for the girl. It is also very easy to ask for her number if sex was good and looks were as advertised. Some salons never send their girls on a first date to a hotel. They make you come to the salon so the girl can judge whether it is safe to be with you. When I once met a petite, very pretty gem, I asked her to go with me to the hotel room after one hour of chat and touch in the salon. Evolved into a great longterm p4 p arrangement outside the realm of any salon. Pride sent a petite 18 yo newbie once to my room, also a nice experience. Try it out. Must speak Russian for the best experiences, but not with Adel. She travelled extensively to the West as an escort pre Covid. Smart. Now locked into Russia somewhat.

If I make an appointment to meet a woman at her location at a certain time, I arrive and she doesn't look like the Internet photo. For example, the profile said 22 years old and the photo looks 22 years old however upon meeting it appears that she is 32 and the photo is 10 years old. Or the photo is simply not her, it's some porn actress' photo copied from the web. Or the photo has been significantly altered or photoshopped. Am I entitled to just walk away? Will there be any repercussions because she could have booked someone else and due to my cancellation she has lost an hour of work? Can she claim that I am crazy and the photo is real?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2606101]I had her come over to my hotel. So I cannot say. I pick by pic and body data. Had a number of good experiences there, but I never go without appointment with a petite young one. There are many many many salons. I skim their websites until I find one who appears to be to my liking. The hotel room experience is better for the girl and for me, just nicer, and more adventurous for the girl. It is also very easy to ask for her number if sex was good and looks were as advertised. Some salons never send their girls on a first date to a hotel. They make you come to the salon so the girl can judge whether it is safe to be with you. When I once met a petite, very pretty gem, I asked her to go with me to the hotel room after one hour of chat and touch in the salon. Evolved into a great longterm p4 p arrangement outside the realm of any salon. Pride sent a petite 18 yo newbie once to my room, also a nice experience. Try it out. Must speak Russian for the best experiences, but not with Adel. She travelled extensively to the West as an escort pre Covid. Smart. Now locked into Russia somewhat.[/QUOTE]Thank Any other Salons you recommend? I love it that there are Many!

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2606237]If I make an appointment to meet a woman at her location at a certain time, I arrive and she doesn't look like the Internet photo. For example, the profile said 22 years old and the photo looks 22 years old however upon meeting it appears that she is 32 and the photo is 10 years old. Or the photo is simply not her, it's some porn actress' photo copied from the web. Or the photo has been significantly altered or photoshopped. Am I entitled to just walk away? Will there be any repercussions because she could have booked someone else and due to my cancellation she has lost an hour of work? Can she claim that I am crazy and the photo is real?[/QUOTE]You can walk away if you tell the mama san (Russians say dijourni, French for "on day watch") that you do not like the offering. Salons work without a male guard ("ochrana" YOu are onyl dealing with ladies. They will not get you into a physical altercation. Be straight and clear and you can walk. The girls pay for the photos. They supply the photos to the salon. Poor girls will take them among themselves on the smart phone. More experience girls will go to a photo studio and pay, say, 80 dollars to have them made. A great looking young one with good taste in representing herself will shine even on a smart phone pic. Most of the girls don't look great and neither do they have the taste to get the best out of their pics. But there are exceptions. The salons will not post fake pics, for their clients are mostly Russian regulars or repeaters. They will lie on age and weight. The salons are smart. They will label a 24 yo 19, not 18. Many girls turn 18 and will want to market their youth and slenderness, their petite delectable bodies when they can make the most money from it. Every year there are true 18 yo to be had. Tirnover in the salons is high, because most girls can't stand the grind of 6 clients a day. But many try and can be wonderful love girls until some bad experience catches up with them and they quit. The girls will ask you whether all is ok and whether you will taker her, then take your money, then lead you to the shower, then come to the room, undress and satisfy you. They all know that once you paid they must get their client off to calm him and to avoid a scene. They are interested in health and safety and will be good to you. They are also interested in repeats and regulars. Eventually many dream to meet a wealthy guy on the job. And sometimes that happens. Treat them well. The girls know safe and unsafe practices. BBBJ and a facial are usually acceptable to the girls. Tell them what you need and they will try.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2607047]You can walk away if you tell the mama san (Russians say dijourni, French for "on day watch") that you do not like the offering. Salons work without a male guard ("ochrana" YOu are onyl dealing with ladies. They will not get you into a physical altercation. Be straight and clear and you can walk. [/QUOTE]Thank you very much however what about independent girls who work from home?

For example this lady is advertised as Elvira 24 years old Independent metro station Vladimirskaya hour 2500 rbl.

I would be happy to stop by and check her out, especially since this is very close to where I am staying, however isn't this probably too good to be true? And if it is not an accurate photo can I just do a 180 and walk out of the building?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2607047]You can walk away if you tell the mama san (Russians say dijourni, French for "on day watch") that you do not like the offering. Salons work without a male guard ("ochrana" YOu are onyl dealing with ladies. They will not get you into a physical altercation. Be straight and clear and you can walk. The girls pay for the photos. They supply the photos to the salon. Poor girls will take them among themselves on the smart phone. More experience girls will go to a photo studio and pay, say, 80 dollars to have them made. A great looking young one with good taste in representing herself will shine even on a smart phone pic. Most of the girls don't look great and neither do they have the taste to get the best out of their pics. But there are exceptions. The salons will not post fake pics, for their clients are mostly Russian regulars or repeaters. They will lie on age and weight. The salons are smart. They will label a 24 yo 19, not 18. Many girls turn 18 and will want to market their youth and slenderness, their petite delectable bodies when they can make the most money from it. Every year there are true 18 yo to be had. Tirnover in the salons is high, because most girls can't stand the grind of 6 clients a day. But many try and can be wonderful love girls until some bad experience catches up with them and they quit. The girls will ask you whether all is ok and whether you will taker her, then take your money, then lead you to the shower, then come to the room, undress and satisfy you. They all know that once you paid they must get their client off to calm him and to avoid a scene. They are interested in health and safety and will be good to you. They are also interested in repeats and regulars. Eventually many dream to meet a wealthy guy on the job. And sometimes that happens. Treat them well. The girls know safe and unsafe practices. BBBJ and a facial are usually acceptable to the girls. Tell them what you need and they will try.[/QUOTE]Since there is no address on the website and I don't talk Russian how do I find these places?

[QUOTE=RamboUltimate;2608315]Since there is no address on the website and I don't talk Russian how do I find these places?[/QUOTE]Google Chrome has options for automatically translating webpages from Russian to English.

Read this forum! Talk to a taxi driver. He will drive you there. As for the photo of 24 yo Elvira. To each his own. I would never go for such depravity. Never go to a private apartment with that little experience. Look. Trust this forum. Most contributors are sincere. Call a damn salon with the help of a taxi driver. Let them show their lineup. Better yet: Find a slim petite bird of youth on the website of a salon. Go for her.It can be done without knowing Russian. Let the taxi driver make the call of availability and reservation of the young bird you fancy. The salon means choice and safety for the young bird and for you. Try this venue. You will never look back at Elvira, trust me. And don't cheapen out. 2500 Rubel buys depravity. 5000 buys quality. 6000 buys more than 5000. Don't be stingy on the final stretch. Once you made it to Piter, you have spent a lot of money already. Don't save on the real thing.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2608734]As for the photo of 24 yo Elvira. To each his own. I would never go for such depravity. Never go to a private apartment with that little experience.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean my depravity. I am looking for a prostitute not a nun. If that photo is accurate then she looks perfect to me and the price is certainly very good.

Do you mean it's dangerous going to a private apartment rather than a salon? Like instead of Elvira there will be a 150 kilo 2 meter tall bald guy named Igor who will punch me in the face and take any money or valuables before throwing me back out on the street?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2608734]Read this forum! Talk to a taxi driver. He will drive you there. As for the photo of 24 yo Elvira. To each his own. I would never go for such depravity. Never go to a private apartment with that little experience. Look. Trust this forum. Most contributors are sincere. Call a damn salon with the help of a taxi driver. Let them show their lineup. Better yet: Find a slim petite bird of youth on the website of a salon. Go for her.It can be done without knowing Russian. Let the taxi driver make the call of availability and reservation of the young bird you fancy. The salon means choice and safety for the young bird and for you. Try this venue. You will never look back at Elvira, trust me. And don't cheapen out. 2500 Rubel buys depravity. 5000 buys quality. 6000 buys more than 5000. Don't be stingy on the final stretch. Once you made it to Piter, you have spent a lot of money already. Don't save on the real thing.[/QUOTE]Have you tried the Erotic massage spas I saw there are some on Nevsky and they have a lot of options! They don't offer Sex that's my understanding But they do have a lot of girls. Only handjob? Blowjob?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2608898]Have you tried the Erotic massage spas I saw there are some on Nevsky and they have a lot of options! They don't offer Sex that's my understanding But they do have a lot of girls. Only handjob? Blowjob?[/QUOTE]Only handjob. There's many places to choose from, so you can walk out if there's no girls to your taste and try your luck on the next one. Some girls speak English, most aren't comfortable using it.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2608810]I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean my depravity. I am looking for a prostitute not a nun. If that photo is accurate then she looks perfect to me and the price is certainly very good.

Do you mean it's dangerous going to a private apartment rather than a salon? Like instead of Elvira there will be a 150 kilo 2 meter tall bald guy named Igor who will punch me in the face and take any money or valuables before throwing me back out on the street?[/QUOTE]Quality: The pic you posted does not attract me at all, but, as always, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. My take: The closer to 18 (but 18 or 18+) the better. If the salon posts "girl is 18" your chances are there that she is. If the salon posts "girl is 19", the girl will be anywhere between 20 to 25. If chubby Elvira is touted as 24 she will be 30+ is my guess. Instead of getting hooked on her, check salon galleries and pick a girl advertised as 18 or 19 with the looks you like. Exclude 2500 Roubels per hour offering. Start with 5000. This will AMP your experience. Most guys will feed off the memory with a paid young love bird for many many lonely nights without a girl. Make your experience memorable by not cheapening out for the real thing. Risk: Salon is close to zero risk. Bring cash only. Bring a copy of your ID or passport. You will not need it. Don't bring ID or passports or credit cards. If you only come with 10 000 Roubels, you can only be robbed for 10 000 Roubel. Now, I have never found it necessary to visit an apartment. I have found the salons to be the places where I found cute petite slim young birds willing to do p4 p in a safe setting. That is why I will not take the risk of going to a private apartment. An hourly hotel room costs 25 bucks for 2 h. Find a girl of your fancy in a salon and offer her to meet outside the realm of the salon for the salon rate. This doubles her take. If you have game whe will agree to meet you in the hourly hotel. Thus, IMHO you do not have to go to a private apartment like Elvira's.

[QUOTE=Kaappo22;2609105]Only handjob. There's many places to choose from, so you can walk out if there's no girls to your taste and try your luck on the next one. Some girls speak English, most aren't comfortable using it.[/QUOTE]Many erotic massage places attract pretty girls, prettier than the average salon girl, because they only administer mano. Safer than the real thing. They can lie to themselves they are not in the p4 p biz. Erotic massage is not enough for me.

Looking at this website, searching for verified girls ages 18 to 19, I noticed that a lot of the ads feature two girls, apparently two for the price of one.

[URL]https://d.sex-dosug.info/ads/search/47976[/URL]

This looks like a really good deal to me and I have never noticed this so frequently anywhere else. Has anyone tried this? How did it go?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2615952]Looking at this website, searching for verified girls ages 18 to 19, I noticed that a lot of the ads feature two girls, apparently two for the price of one.

[URL]https://d.sex-dosug.info/ads/search/47976[/URL]

This looks like a really good deal to me and I have never noticed this so frequently anywhere else. Has anyone tried this? How did it go?[/QUOTE]When it looks too good to be true, it usually isn't true. Pics are earmarked "proven". Pics are obviously fake. US softcore porn stars on the pics. Russian porn stars on the pics. You can try this site, you will get a female, but she will be anything but the advertised quality. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2617079]When it looks too good to be true, it usually isn't true. Pics are earmarked "proven". Pics are obviously fake. US softcore porn stars on the pics. Russian porn stars on the pics. You can try this site, you will get a female, but she will be anything but the advertised quality. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I've run them through [URL]tineye.com[/URL] and didn't get any hits.

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2617081]I've run them through [URL]tineye.com[/URL] and didn't get any hits.[/QUOTE]Fake pics. Individualka Anfisa and Katya: The brunette is Raven Justine, an 18 yo super beauty who did a few great hardcore scene with TImo Hardy, facial, gagged on his cum. Petite slim and shapely. Very very very pretty indeed. Of course she is not 18 now as the website claims and she certainly does not work there. Enjoy Raven Justine's work. She was great. Nika Maya and Diana Lisa are famous porn pics. European models. The young one in Masha zhenia is a US softcore porn girl everybody knew in the early days of the web, say in 2002. I forget her name. Pretty. The black haired in Olina Alya is Little Caprice, a Czeque porn superstar everybody knows. 18 yo are hard to com by in Piter. The site claims they are abundant. All fake. Try a salon, Harry.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2617231]Fake pics. Individualka Anfisa and Katya: The brunette is Raven Justine, an 18 yo super beauty who did a few great hardcore scene with TImo Hardy, facial, gagged on his cum. The black haired in Olina Alya is Little Caprice, a Czeque porn superstar everybody knows. 18 yo are hard to com by in Piter. The site claims they are abundant. All fake. Try a salon, Harry.[/QUOTE]So you think that Little Caprice is Polina Anya? I'm not completely convinced however I do see a resemblance.

I cannot find anyone on the web named Raven Justine. I did find a Raven in a porn video who looks a lot like Katya the escort. A lot of porn actresses escort and the porn is even mostly a marketing tool for their escorting job. However you are saying Raven in the porn cannot be 18 years old and escorting in Petersburg therefore Katya is a fake photo?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2617242]So you think that Little Caprice is Polina Anya? I'm not completely convinced however I do see a resemblance.

I cannot find anyone on the web named Raven Justine. I did find a Raven in a porn video who looks a lot like Katya the escort. A lot of porn actresses escort and the porn is even mostly a marketing tool for their escorting job. However you are saying Raven in the porn cannot be 18 years old and escorting in Petersburg therefore Katya is a fake photo?[/QUOTE]She goes mostly by the name Lenusik in porn. A girl from Vladivostok. Slim petite physique yet a nice breast. You find some stunning soft and hardcore of her, much better than the pics you attached. Her porn parner for one set, Martha the you will also find. She is pictured on the pic of the fake site you are looking at. You are miles off course Harry. "Lenusik" is 31 years old now. Likely married and happy and way beyond offering herself for little money. Try the site if you wish. And the read up on my posts and try my way. Best of luck. "Lenusik" was in porn for a few months. At 5 ft 3', no tattoo fresh and desirable, she was soon sxooped up by some lover or sponsor. The vid with Timo Hardy is excellent. She obviously and absolutely despises him in the vid. She was way to pretty for that depravity.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2617355]She is pictured on the pic of the fake site you are looking at. You are miles off course Harry. "Lenusik" is 31 years old now. Likely married and happy and way beyond offering herself for little money. [/QUOTE]I find this to be very discouraging. This now causing me to doubt the honesty of even the finest online prostitution advertisements. How is this possible? I can no longer trust without question Russian pimps? What is a man to do?

But I do have a real question. People put fake photos in these internet ads. Men call and make an appointment. When they arrive the woman who they want to meet is not the woman who answers the door. Isn't it obvious that the man is going get very angry and walk away? So what is the point of these fake ads? For example I can put a photo on the web that I'm selling a 1 year old Toyota Prius and when people show up, it turns out that I've got some old piece of junk for sale. What is the point of that?

[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2617826]But I do have a real question. People put fake photos in these internet ads. Men call and make an appointment. When they arrive the woman who they want to meet is not the woman who answers the door. Isn't it obvious that the man is going get very angry and walk away? So what is the point of these fake ads? For example I can put a photo on the web that I'm selling a 1 year old Toyota Prius and when people show up, it turns out that I've got some old piece of junk for sale. What is the point of that?[/QUOTE]The market is efficient. These ads work. Often the women who show have similar hair color, they are remotely similar, but of much worse quality. Sometime clients do not have the guts to send them away or to bail in their apartment. These ads are primarily for Russian audiences. The average Russian man, like the average man the world over, is not very smart. When looking for such entertainment, they are often horny, wanking, drunk. As you well know, the perception of the world changes immediately and drastically once the male reaches his climax. Males are pliable and sucker to sweet lies when horny or drunk. That is the long and short of it. Males and females even know they are being lied to and still buy in. Any other explanation for Trumpism? For Putinism?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2618124]Males are pliable and sucker to sweet lies when horny or drunk. That is the long and short of it. Males and females even know they are being lied to and still buy in. Any other explanation for Trumpism? For Putinism?[/QUOTE]Weird. I agree with you that people often make decisions which are not in their best interests, however if a seller is advertising with photos top quality, low priced merchandise, bargain, sale and buyers show up and can see that it's bad quality, who is going to buy? Drunk guys? These girls have a bunch of drunk Russians showing up every day? That doesn't sound too safe.

In any case, I am getting a little bit turned off by Russia. I think I'll try Rio de Janeiro and see what happens. I've heard good things. And thank you for your sharp eye and insights.

Harry is right, because in 2021 there are no tourist visa options. Russia is worth a visit, but not in 2021. Capable country. Great touristic spots. Uneven income distribution. Especially the poorer, single parent raised, non-English speaking, good looking girls are tempted by making money at least on the side in p4 p or sponsorship arrangements. The large cities offer many options for romance and paid romance. Safety, discretion and material compensation are absolute prerequisites. If you can offer that, even on a tourist trip to Russia, great encounters are possible. The ease with which pretty young girls move in and out of this way to make money is astounding. Because of widespread material hardship, family and friends often understand. A pretty student who dances in a strip club after hours. No big deal. She will not speak about the clients she meets at the hotel room the next afternoon. And nobody asks. There are caustic reactions by females if you approach them if they have decided for themselves they are not willing to pursue this venue. Even a girl that is open to it, if she is approached in the company of others, will reject you. Discretion matters. Choose wisely, be a good and responsible lover. Plenty of gems out there. After Covid.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2618753]....Plenty of gems out there. After Covid.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great posts Philosophus. You live up to your name. But I am wondering, shouldn't the epidemic have an upside in a place like Petersburg. No foreigners coming in. Difficult to get out of the country. The economy and social activity repressed. Or is it simply impossible to connect with the girls? (I. E. The salons are closed and the girls are all off-line).

[QUOTE=Cucumber;2621078]Thanks for the great posts Philosophus. You live up to your name. But I am wondering, shouldn't the epidemic have an upside in a place like Petersburg. No foreigners coming in. Difficult to get out of the country. The economy and social activity repressed. Or is it simply impossible to connect with the girls? (I. E. The salons are closed and the girls are all off-line).[/QUOTE]Thanks Cucumber. The catastrophic downside is that unless you have a business trip to Piter ahead of you or you have close relatives like a mother or a wife in Piter, you simply cannot get in as a foreigner. The upside is that there are some pretty young birds, who would escort abroad was it not for Covid. Yes, they ply their trade in Piter and can be had. Check [URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/salon-vosstaniya/[/URL] Adel, 19 years. She is petite, slim, very cute indeed, with a big head and narrow hips just has the right youngish appeal. That is why they advertise her as 19 even though she is 24. She worked in Western Europe to help wealthy travellers cut their ennui and enjoy her young mouth, lips, tongue, vagina and shapely hands. Now she is stuck in Piter and works in this salon. Real pretty. I recommend. When I am in Piter, I bareback a 24 yo engineer who I met in a salon when she was 19.5 ft 3, 43 kg, very pretty face, an excellent ballerina until she finished high school. We have real chemistry, but she lives her life and I live mine. Unfathomable why a good Russian Prince Charming does not sweep her up. But some girls are this way, prefer casual sex and money for the deed. She did not llast long in the salon. No working attitude, just too pretty and princessy and lazy and serious. She is passive and demure but accepts that I need to penetrate her little womb without plastic, in fact enjoys it and orgasms every time. I try to keep the roster young and check the salon pics and girly data regularly. When a girl they advertise as 18 shows up, when she is lithe and petite and slim and unblemished by tattoos, fat, piercings, high heels and aggressive nails, I try to book her in a salon. If she turns out to be pretty, enjoying the time with me and interested to meet outside the salon realm, I get her whatsapp and we meet in a premum hourly hotel for a about of blizz and CIM / CIF. The number of 18 yo arrivals in the salons has plummetted. Maybe VK is a new meeting joint? Maybe Covid does not allow them to come to Piter without prior family contact? Some of my past regulars came with nothing but a petite slim youthful body, a small suitcase, a passport showing they recently turned 18 and a smartphone to Piter. They would start working in some saloon the day after arriving and taking an STD test, whcih seems to be prerequisite for salon work in Piter. And all of those were great love birds, and often quit salon work soon, when they found a job as a waitress.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2621100]Thanks Cucumber. The catastrophic downside is that unless you have a business trip to Piter ahead of you or you have close relatives like a mother or a wife in Piter, you simply cannot get in as a foreigner. The upside is that there are some pretty young birds, who would escort abroad was it not for Covid. Yes, they ply their trade in Piter and can be had. Check [URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/salon-vosstaniya/[/URL] Adel, 19 years. She is petite, slim, very cute indeed, with a big head and narrow hips just has the right youngish appeal. That is why they advertise her as 19 even though she is 24. She worked in Western Europe to help wealthy travellers cut their ennui and enjoy her young mouth, lips, tongue, vagina and shapely hands. Now she is stuck in Piter and works in this salon. Real pretty. I recommend. When I am in Piter, I bareback a 24 yo engineer who I met in a salon when she was 19.5 ft 3, 43 kg, very pretty face, an excellent ballerina until she finished high school. We have real chemistry, but she lives her life and I live mine. Unfathomable why a good Russian Prince Charming does not sweep her up. But some girls are this way, prefer casual sex and money for the deed. She did not llast long in the salon. No working attitude, just too pretty and princessy and lazy and serious. She is passive and demure but accepts that I need to penetrate her little womb without plastic, in fact enjoys it and orgasms every time. I try to keep the roster young and check the salon pics and girly data regularly. When a girl they advertise as 18 shows up, when she is lithe and petite and slim and unblemished by tattoos, fat, piercings, high heels and aggressive nails, I try to book her in a salon. If she turns out to be pretty, enjoying the time with me and interested to meet outside the salon realm, I get her whatsapp and we meet in a premum hourly hotel for a about of blizz and CIM / CIF..[/QUOTE]Has anyone tried this girl? [URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/asya/[/URL] her video is sexy as fuck and looks like could have a tight pussy!

Thank you for your post, Philosophus. I've had the curiosity to travel to St. Petersburg ever since I read the biographies of several Russian tzars. Now I have the incentive as a hobbyist, as well. It seems the price and quality would be amazing. Would you consider St. Petersburg to be better in this regard than Moscow? My taste seems to be quite similar to what you described there as your own. I've only once tried a massage place, never a salon, and don't speak any Russian. But since I survived the massage place in Kiev I believe I'm ready for the salon experience as well. Although, there was an English speaking hostess there.

And a question about Mamba and Tinder, if someone happens to know: are they "full of scammers", or actual 'honest' girls going for the easy money? Should one pose as a 35 year old or rather a 40 year old? (most twenty-something girls set their age limit to 35, if they go over the 30 year limit, where as dedicated girls go for like "20-80" or "20-60".

A dream scenario would be to find a cute girl who speaks good English, hang out with her in restaurants and cafes, walk a round and have sex whenever there's the lust for it. Or at least just the sex.

Oh, and one more thing. You linked Pride as if it's a place to trust. For photos and else. Are there other places you can recommend, I could bookmark them. Is it like "salon" is the place for sex and massage places are really without the sex? For example Google gave the place "Egoist", which seems to have very good quality girls for massage services.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2622088]Has anyone tried this girl? [URL]https://prostitutki.spb.ru/asya/[/URL] her video is sexy as fuck and looks like could have a tight pussy![/QUOTE]No idea about her. To each, his own. Her body data look interesting, but her vid is gothic, a lot of fabric on her, make-up. I have a better likelihood of finding a young girl to my liking if they stick with pics, show skin (legs, tummy, arms, ...) avoid enhancers like high heels or fancy poses. A good quality body on a young bird speaks for itself. Nevertheless: Try her. I might be wrong with my criteria. Remember: The young birds pay for their own photos. They instruct the photographer. They have taken 1000 instagram shots of themselves and know what they like and dislike about their petite bodies. The photos they submit to the salon for posting do say quite a bit about the girl's taste and behavior.

[QUOTE=Desin;2622431]Thank you for your post, Philosophus. I've had the curiosity to travel to St. Petersburg ever since I read the biographies of several Russian tzars. Now I have the incentive as a hobbyist, as well. It seems the price and quality would be amazing. Would you consider St. Petersburg to be better in this regard than Moscow? My taste seems to be quite similar to what you described there as your own. I've only once tried a massage place, never a salon, and don't speak any Russian. But since I survived the massage place in Kiev I believe I'm ready for the salon experience as well. Although, there was an English speaking hostess there.

And a question about Mamba and Tinder, if someone happens to know: are they "full of scammers", or actual 'honest' girls going for the easy money? Should one pose as a 35 year old or rather a 40 year old? (most twenty-something girls set their age limit to 35, if they go over the 30 year limit, where as dedicated girls go for like "20-80" or "20-60".

A dream scenario would be to find a cute girl who speaks good English, hang out with her in restaurants and cafes, walk a round and have sex whenever there's the lust for it. Or at least just the sex.

Oh, and one more thing. You linked Pride as if it's a place to trust. For photos and else. Are there other places you can recommend, I could bookmark them. Is it like "salon" is the place for sex and massage places are really without the sex? For example Google gave the place "Egoist", which seems to have very good quality girls for massage services.[/QUOTE]Piter is not as monstruous as Moscow. Not quite as big. I prefer Piter. Moscow draws yet more talent, just because it is bigger. All the ex Southern USSR girls get to Moscow by train or cheap airplane. Piter is somewaht remote for them. Salon prices there 30% over Piter. I have had only one girl in Moscow, for lack of preparation. It was in 2013. I just went to a salon and had them parade the available talent. Talent was good, but I was very lucky to spot a 19 yo 5 ft 3 slim great looker from Donbass, who had just got her STD test done and who was on her first day in Moscow. She was such a stunner that she only worked there for a week and moved on, found a sponsor etc. Etc. She likely had some experience in this line of work from Ukraine, but anyway, very dedicated and GFE, good French kisser, BJ covered and FS covered, but so beautiful and cultured that I came easily anyway in her little womb and for seconds in her face. Top5 lifetime sexual experience for she was such a young gem. Other punters have written Moscow has better talent at higher prices. As for my take, I find top talent also in Piter. It is a university town. Lots of girls turn 18 every year and want to try to reap the rewards of their undisputed beauty. The majority does not speak English. That goes all the more for the materially disadvantaged, the single parent raised, the less educated ones. Those are often most prone to dip their delicate young toes in p4p and can be the best love birds. They can be quite curious when a decently dressed and moderately handsome foreigner books them. Age difference plays no role. Reliability, character, trust that the client may repeat, trust he isn't ridiculously promiscuous, no drugs, no scams, discretion, safety. Those are much more important to them than age difference. None of my regulars speak English. The non-English speakers have less options and are more easily infatuated. Also more easily convinced to please, to do what gives pleasure. Reg. Mamba or tinder, register yourself as 38 or so. Opens the right girls' age bracket. I only listed Pride because I have been there and Adel is very pretty, a small and slender 24 yo girl with narrow hips and a big head, who know how to please and who is stranded in Piter under Covid. She speaks sufficient English. When I first met her she was advertised as 19. I will not repeat with her, I ilike the confused 18 and 19 yo and the challenge to keep the roster young. Other salons change names every so often. You will find many on the web, just be diligent. Try Russian letters, it is not difficult. I have never been to a massage places. There are many, and I agree that Egoist has nice pics. I think it a very good idea for you to explore this venue. I am pretty sure the pics are authentic and it is a safe experience. I shun the professional services and the confident girls. It has happened to me that I found a young student (18 yo) who did not want to work as a love girl, but who I could convince to got to a sauna, to relax, wash and eat there, and to get my rocks off. So this was more a nude session with her looking coyly into my eyes, showing her shaven pussy, tummy, small breast and the soles of her small feet, smiling, and using both of her pretty hands to get me off. (She came nicely from DATY before that). Other than this, I have never asked for massage only. Girls adertising 20 to 60 or 20 to 80 are surely P4 P. That shoud not deter you. The super lookers wll only allow you to respond if you are 18 to 40, but they don't mind at all if you a decent looking 50 yo or 60 yo. The ones looking for sponsors obviously prefer married men above 50, who don't sleep around like a 25 yo stallion. Hanging around in restaurants. Will not happen. Discretion is key. But you can rent a great apartment for much less than 100 USD per night. Jacuzzi and all. Heat it up to the max, order some sushi, juice, tea, hang out there. Tell her to stay undressed, to neer close her legs, to keep one hand on your member at all times, whatever. She will do it in the right setting, but she likely will not have coffee with you in a cafe. Some friend might see her. . Yes, massage places really are not for sex but for happy ending, but there may be exceptions. Both are monitored by police. Police receives money. Police does enforce regularly, e. G. If they find a girl without valid STD test. Police will also never allow girls below the legal limit.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2622476]Piter is not as monstruous as Moscow. [/QUOTE]Thanks for the update on Peter. I spent there some of the best years of my life, between 1998-2005, having some business there. Being "Out of Service" already, you triggered my appetite, to go there again. The lack of tourists actually has some advantages.

Hopefully, my old connections will still be of some value, as I never had serious problems to get a full-year business visa. I assume, this is still the ticket to Peter, correct?

Does my favourite pickup bar, "Marstal", still exist? Just before the Church of Spilled Blood, letft side, when coming from Newskyi?

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2622573]Does my favourite pickup bar, "Marstal", still exist? Just before the Church of Spilled Blood, letft side, when coming from Newskyi?[/QUOTE]I think it closed. I knew the place. The cops did not like the pick up scene. The smart phone killed Marstal, I think, and the venue could not recover from her desered reputation. VK user groups are the way to go. I am not good at them, though, but communicated with an excellent petite and slim 18 yo love girl who another bird introduced to me as being in need via one of these.

Due to lockdown all the spas and Clubs are closed. Can anyone share the contacts of independent girls who work from their apartments or can do outcalls.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2622580] I knew the place. The cops did not like the pick up scene. [/QUOTE]Very strange. I was even robbed by 2 (fake?) cops one early morning, after leaving Marstal alone, a little bit drunk.

I was not the only one, I heard later on.

Anyway, the party scene there, incl. Totally drunk Finnish guys, was terrific. You saw in reality, which candy for sale.

BTW: Are the advertised prices in the salons for real? I. e. 4500 Ruble for 1 h?

[QUOTE=ReinerOtto;2622604]Very strange. I was even robbed by 2 (fake?) cops one early morning, after leaving Marstal alone, a little bit drunk.

I was not the only one, I heard later on.

Anyway, the party scene there, incl. Totally drunk Finnish guys, was terrific. You saw in reality, which candy for sale.

BTW: Are the advertised prices in the salons for real? I. e. 4500 Ruble for 1 h?[/QUOTE]Yes. 4500 Rouble an hour. That makes it pounds an hour. Cheapest ist half that, but is not worth it. 5000 to 7000 an hour is a reasonable range for punting in the inner city salons. Girl make half of it, half goes to the salon. I offer the young birds the same rate I pay in the salon when I sleep with them outside the realm of the salon. That keeps them coming back and feeling appreciated. You can hardly get a plumber in the UK for that money.

[QUOTE=NordicNomad;2556051]I would suggest using rusdosug, mamba, telegram groups or such and dealing with indies, I met few of the girls through rusdosug multiple times and they actually lowered their prices, for example one of my telegram group hookups wanted 8000 for 2 hours with owo, DATY, DFK, CIM first time few times we met, on third visit she said 5000.[/QUOTE]Where did you find these Telegram groups?

Was looking at the ads and girls charge much less than Moscow. ? Was also wondering how safe is it visiting a girls place there?

[QUOTE=Desin;2626706]Where did you find these Telegram groups?[/QUOTE]St. Petersburg Girls is one such group.

Another: escort girls in Saint Petersburg.

These 3 groups I found.

Saint Petersburg Escort Girls seems dead.

VIP GIRLS St. Petersburg. 60 girls advertise themselves. Prices between 10 000 Rubles (133 US $) per hour to 20 000 Rubles per hour. Very pricey indeed. Site gives body data (height, weight, bust size) and meaningful photos. Meaningful because the pics are all dressed, mostly directed by the girls and many of them in known settings like Abu Dhabi. Seems the foreign escort girls overwinter in 2021 in Piter due to Covid-19 travel restrictions and advertise theire wares. Age data from 18 to 40. Many good pics, but also many ladden with female complexity like thick make-up, painted nails, tats, some piercings, body fat. 2 young spinners I would consider doable. One chick has 1 fake and 1 real photo ad. Not very smart. If you really are hard up for beauty and salons are closed (are they?) and you have the dough, go for it. You send a message to the group admin and she arranges the meet. You cannot contact the chick directly. Some offer their own apartment to meet. If you do that, bring only cash in limited amounts and no ID. It can be a scam and all they want is your money. It hardly ever is a scam, though. Most girls, however, ask for neutral territory like your hotel room or an hourly hotel. All said, I doubt I will try this channel. The gals look too settled and golddiggy and conceited and expensive to me. Pre Covid I had better luck in the salons to find gems, and the expenditure for true 10 beauty and charm is 13 000 Rubels for 2 hours + a little gift like a T-shirt, which is a great aphrodisiac for any young bird.

Escort Girls St Petersburg. So porn star Roxy Lips is advertised there. Either fake or real. Dunno. She will be expensive. Her pics show her indisputable beauty when she started, but also the brainless depravity of large tattoos, inflated lips and pierced nipples that seem to come with a porn carreer. To each his or her own. Gone are the times when Sasha Rose or Fiva Bente made amazing porn clips with their pristine, untainted bodies. I never found a match between my ideal P4 P bird and a porn star (given: Sasha, Fiva Bente, little Candy and Rachel James are excepted) or even a striptease dancer. Shy, pristine, petite and confused makes for best p4 p. Treat the birds nicely.

Again: I never used telegram for P4 P.

Hi,

I have a question and maybe someone here can help me. I would like to visit the girls at the pride salon. It is mentioned here. However, my problem is that I do not speak Russian. Maybe some simple words, but I don't understand spoken Russian and cannot ask for guidance, directions. I tried to write some salons, at a maximum they gave me the street name. However, I don't know how to enter the salons, as I don't know where the exact entrance is.

So how do I enter the salon Pride as a non-Russian speaker? How do I find the entry door?

Thanks for any help.

In my first time I went to a salon in Piter some years ago, I was in a similar position.

This worked for me but it doesn't mean it will work for you. Meanwhile my Russian is well enough to understand telephone conversations, so I don't use this old trick anymore.

Okay. First let me tell my first experience trying to find a salon outside of the center. I saw the advertising on a site, it was only the name of the street and the number.

So, I sent them a SMS (they didn't have WhatsApp yet, today most of the salons finally have WhatsApp or telegram) for more precise directions, like flat number, they didn't answer. Some hours late I sent a second SMS, this time in Russian. She / he answered and I translated with google: "when you are here, we will send the details". It was fucking cold day.

Ok, when I was there, I sent a sms in Russian: "I am here". The answer came after some minutes. Something like "now go to the backyard thru the arc, then turn to the left, there a is an arc, go under the arc you will see the side yard, there go to the right side and in the third metal door enter the code B37 B4547 (or something)." I was wandering around for few minutes, I didn't find the arc because I was in the wrong backyard, it was difficult and frustrating, the dick didn't like it. I wrote that I didn't find. The answer was not very friendly and short. Maybe I was the first stupid foreigner to visit them. I tried again and found the arc, I became happy and the dick became woody again. I was going to the door, took my phone to remember the fucking code, but the phone died (this was my fault) the battery was ok, but maybe the cold was too strong. No more cheap smartphones. I stayed there for few minutes waiting for somebody to go in or go out and nothing happened. I had enough and left disappointing. No fuck.

Next day I used the trick for the first time, but in another salon which was closer to my hotel: I sent then a message asking in Russian for the details because "I was already in front of the building". And there you go; this was the trick. You didn't understand? I explain: I was in fact in my very warm and cozy hotel room, in front of my laptop with Yandex / Google-streetview etc. And bingo, after few seconds she / he wrote: go to the back yard, turn right, enter the grey pod-yezd, something like this.

I fucking entered that yard (with the comfort of my laptop) - not physically. Now I got ya. I took my palito and went out.

Few minutes passed and I got the message: Mi vas zhdem, gde vi? I answered "Oh, I must be in the wrong house, I see no grey pod-yezd here. I will fix that and come to you soon". After few minutes more I was inside the salon removing my boots full of snow. Mamasan said something when I came, I didn't understand because at that time my Russian was bad. Maybe she said "you are late but there are still some free girls, sit in the room and wait for the zhenskiy parad". It was an excellent brothel.

But once this trick failed: when I texted "I am here, give me the detailed instructions. " After few seconds she / he wrote "you are not here, there is nobody in the yard, I can see from my window. I said my standard phrase "Oh, I must be in the wrong house (this must be in Russian of course) I will fix that and come to you soon", but he / she wrote their standard phrase "When you are here call us, we will explain everything". I answered "no calls please, my Russian is not good". They didn't reply, so I never had the chance to go to that place.

I tried their competitor in that same rayon, the trick worked fine again. Nice evening. Good memories.

[QUOTE=AntonioMontana;2638041]Hi,

I have a question and maybe someone here can help me. I would like to visit the girls at the pride salon. It is mentioned here. However, my problem is that I do not speak Russian. Maybe some simple words, but I don't understand spoken Russian and cannot ask for guidance, directions. I tried to write some salons, at a maximum they gave me the street name. However, I don't know how to enter the salons, as I don't know where the exact entrance is.

So how do I enter the salon Pride as a non-Russian speaker? How do I find the entry door?

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]

At SanGaetano.

Thanks for your very extensive answer and the interesting stories!

I also thought somehow like this, to try to contact them via telegram and so. But seems not every salon is interested in it. Not all have accounts on social media and seem willing to respond.

I know what you mean. I face the same problem when trying to contact some saloni, I will try to explain the reason later. Massage places, Strip clubs and Gentlemen clubs are easier to be contacted, because officially they are selling massage, relaxation, private dancing etc. Not sex, these places have professional websites, receptionists and some of them even face control. While the salon usually only has the mamasan and the girls (but once I went to a salon where the mamasam was also available for service, and I ended up choosing her, because she was the last worse option available. I made the mistake of coming in the sex chaz pik, so all good girls were busy and the only two girls available were not of my taste, one was obese and the other well, just not attractive). By the way obesity, if there is something that you will not find in a Gentlemen club is an obese woman, I must confess the girls there are top compared with saloni. But it has its price. In the Moscow forum a poster broke down the costs: It will be around 22.000 Rub minimum for a session. Not including tips for the dances and drinks. And in his experience the place was 'fairly empty'. The salon is more or less 3000-5000 rub per hour. The average salary in Russia is about 50.000 Rub per month according to statista. Some more comparisons: Almost none speak English in an average salon, while in an official Gentlemen's club almost everybody speaks English.

Now I will explain -in my opinion -why they don't have social media and they are not desperate for you and me to visit them: They are popular among Russians (remember about the average salary?) too. That's why is a good advice to call before you go there in order to ask 'how many girls are available right now and in the next hour', because sometimes you arrive there and they are all in the rooms 'working'. So, you can sit in the lobby (sometimes just a corridor, in worst case scenario, you will have to wait outside) and drink their tea and eat their sladki. Those are for free by the way. One more reason why they don't have social media is the fact that they try to avoid exaggerated publicity, as it could catch the attention of the authorities.

Both establishment types have their pros and cons.

Salons are open. Look at website rusdosug. Blocked in Russia, but unblockable in Russia. Not blocked outside Russia. 100's of girls advertised, individualkas and salon girls. Many salonslist their better girls and can be liked from the site. Salon takes half what the girls charge, which is shown on rusdosug. Girls advertised below 25 y, below 5 ft6 (165 cm) and below 110 lb (50 kg) cost about 10 000 Rubel (120 US $) for 2 h incl. BBBJ. 5 o US $ per hour without BBBJ in salon. Very best looking, younger, tinier girls can range up to 15 000 Ruble / h (200 US $). Older, bigger, heavier chicks may charge 30 - 40 US $/ h. Salary at Mc Donalds is 4 you $/ h on a 168 h / month workweek which includes nigh shifts to reach the 4 US $/ h. Lowest paid cleaning and flower selling jobs start at 2 US $/ h. If you speak some Russian, call the salons. Do your homework. Ask for the girl of your fancy. Let an English speaking taxi driver do the job for you. During daytime they will be glad to help for an agreed fee. No tourist visa to Russia at the moment. Difficult to get here, but many many young folks need money. Construction industry is down. Restaurants still flourish. Young waiters try their English on you more and more. It is a good development. City life is entirely remote from world politics. Nobody talks about Putin, Ukraine, Biden, Johnson or any of the other clowns. Stay safe.

Called an individualka, who advertised herself as 18 yo 5 ft6 tiny 100 lb. Was reviewed in Russian as being 19 yo from Kharkiv (Eastern Ukraine), 5 ft6 but closer to 110 - 120 lb, passive but young and playing the young game. Asking price 140 US $ for 2 h at a hotel. BBBJ included. Despite being in touch with her every 30 min or so, she finally anounced she was 90 min late, which is a no no for me. I cancelled. Probably a mistake as tardiness is a feature of the game in Russia, but I had many commitments that day. Next day, called a salon. All are open. Website body data are accurate, age embellished by a year or more to the younger side. White girls are in higher demand than Asian or Stani girls. It just so happens that when the average Russian John spends on p4 p, he wants to look into those big round eyes of the young bird he is shooting his spice of life into. This holds for European and for Asian Russian Johns. The websites often do not state the girls' ethnicity, as the faces are blurred. The Asian girls in the salons have the slimmer, more petite bodies, so I knowingly chose a Kazakh girl, the website said Asiatka. Beautiful tiny body without an ounce of fat and small, shapely tits, 24 yo while advertised as 23 yo. Face was ok but not super, but kind of baby face looking when viewed in profile. Came twice in an average session, relaxing but nothing spectacular. At 100 US $ for 2 h incl. BBBJ not a bad deal. Third girl I tried is an old contact of mine, 22 yo, 5 ft3, 90 lb spinner, naturally horny one, who works a regular job and makes money on the side enjoying being pampered by a few guys / sponsors she meets regularly. She says she meets only men she knows from earlier bouts or upon recommendation. She is a very good lover, BBBJ with attention to balls and anus, DFK, deep throat, heel grab, face fuck, CIF, BBFS etc. Comes at a price tag of 200 US $/2 h plus 30 US $ for a nice 2-hourly hotel room. Had her twice and came twice each time in spectacular fashion, just a very pleasant time to fuck, face fuck and facial this girl. She also came twice each time, a horny bird indeed. Russians birds have a hard time travelling abroad. Covid, visa and money limits. Russian p4 p pricing somewhat disconnected from world pricing like Dubai, Maledives etc. For 200 US $/2 h many good looking girls are available, but the service level varies. BBFS uncommon. Girls that post Dubai pics pre Covid are usually stuck up. 22 yo girls like my contact who speak Russian only are more hemmed in in the local market and gladly come punctually with full GFE service for this type'a money. I met her first when she had just turned 18 and would not mind to rejuvenate the roster to this age group, but did not have the wherewithal to get it done this time.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2649584]Called an individualka, who advertised herself as 18 yo 5 ft6 tiny 100 lb. Was reviewed in Russian as being 19 yo from Kharkiv (Eastern Ukraine), 5 ft6 but closer to 110 - 120 lb, passive but young and playing the young game. Asking price 140 US $ for 2 h at a hotel. BBBJ included. Despite being in touch with her every 30 min or so, she finally anounced she was 90 min late, which is a no no for me. I cancelled. Probably a mistake as tardiness is a feature of the game in Russia, but I had many commitments that day. Next day, called a salon. All are open. Website body data are accurate, age embellished by a year or more to the younger side. White girls are in higher demand than Asian or Stani girls. It just so happens that when the average Russian John spends on p4 p, he wants to look into those big round eyes of the young bird he is shooting his spice of life into. This holds for European and for Asian Russian Johns. The websites often do not state the girls' ethnicity, as the faces are blurred. The Asian girls in the salons have the slimmer, more petite bodies, so I knowingly chose a Kazakh girl, the website said Asiatka. Beautiful tiny body without an ounce of fat and small, shapely tits, 24 yo while advertised as 23 yo. Face was ok but not super, but kind of baby face looking when viewed in profile. Came twice in an average session, relaxing but nothing spectacular. At 100 US $ for 2 h incl. BBBJ not a bad deal. Third girl I tried is an old contact of mine, 22 yo, 5 ft3, 90 lb spinner, naturally horny one, who works a regular job and makes money on the side enjoying being pampered by a few guys / sponsors she meets regularly..[/QUOTE]Do you have a link for that salon with Kazakh Bird? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2649592]Do you have a link for that salon with Kazakh Bird? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Salon: Lady S.

Ulitsa Gorkovskaya, I think Nr 46, anyway close to Reka Fontanki, on the right side as you face admiraliteyskaya in the far end of the street.

She goes by the name of Nailya. She is nice and likely popular. 2 y on the job (long).

[URL]https://www.rusdosug.com/indi288151.html[/URL] salon ad for nailya on rusdosug.

[URL]https://spb-putana.com/index.php[/URL] salon website.

[EMAIL]lu3-3lu@mail.ru[/EMAIL] salon email.

+7 (921) 995-34-50.

Best of luck, you will enjoy.

Ulitsa Gorohova, sorry.

[QUOTE=Perennial;2650037]Ulitsa Gorohova, sorry.[/QUOTE]True. Ulitsa Gorohova. My mistake.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2650823]True. Ulitsa Gorohova. My mistake.[/QUOTE]I will try Lady S But also this salon caught my attention [URL]http://salonxxx.ru/[/URL] apparently they operate in a hotel? Cannot confirm.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2651370]I will try Lady S But also this salon caught my attention [URL]http://salonxxx.ru/[/URL] apparently they operate in a hotel? Cannot confirm.[/QUOTE]Mate, the site contains at least one profile with fake pics. She s a commonly known internet softcore porn girl and very certainly does not work for this site. Bait, advertised as 18 yo. Salons do not work in hotels. Any pics posted with age 25 means 30-35 year old hookers. I would not even try going there. If you go there, and have anywhere near my taste and expectations, you will be disappointed. The oldtimers are also overprices at 10 000 Ru per hour. Open Rusdosug and go with the many credible salons. Study the pics and girly data in detail. Use your judgement. You will find 20 salons better than the site you posted.

Hello fellow Mongers,

I am planning to travel to St. Petersburg and Moscow for the first time this June. Which area / reasonable hotels would be the best to live in? I am planning for some outcalls.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Porsche5;2655962]I am planning to travel to St. Petersburg and Moscow for the first time this June. Which area / reasonable hotels would be the best to live in? I am planning for some outcalls.[/QUOTE]Well traffic jams in Moscow are pretty bad so keep that in mind when planning for outcalls. Also accommodation in downtown Moscow can be bit pricey if not booked in advance and minimum outcalls preferred by girls is 2 hrs +taxi.

A late report on my 5 day trip to SP back in October 21

Stayed at a hotel on Nevsky. Had about 7 in-call sessions in Salons. Only two good experiences. Prices I paid ranged from 4500-9000 for an hour. First day those guys handing out flyers on the street took me to a Salon on Nevsky. Poor line up but still went with an average girl maybe a 6 costing 7000. Straight sex only no BBBJ or kissing. All of that is extra.

Next few days messaged many Salons (in Russian) often no answer. Or you have to make appointment. Also called some indys but they reply late and usually not available when I need them. Lineup in salons have 3 or 4 girls mostly average looking. I was lucky to have found an 8 only once.

Although prices seem cheap it all adds up if you go for extras. BBBJ +2000, anal +4000, outcalls want taxi money and so on. So in the end not as cheap as it seems in SP.

Late night striptease places are good but not my thing as it's no sex. Only erotic dance, no touching.

One massage with happy ending was memorable. I think it was 55000 for one hour. Can touch except the V.

Local date all went well but a bit of a gold digger.

Nice city but hard to find gems and pricier than it seems.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2656790]A late report on my 5 day trip to SP back in October 21

Stayed at a hotel on Nevsky. Had about 7 in-call sessions in Salons. Only two good experiences. Prices I paid ranged from 4500-9000 for an hour. First day those guys handing out flyers on the street took me to a Salon on Nevsky. Poor line up but still went with an average girl maybe a 6 costing 7000. Straight sex only no BBBJ or kissing. All of that is extra.

Next few days messaged many Salons (in Russian) often no answer. Or you have to make appointment. Also called some indys but they reply late and usually not available when I need them. Lineup in salons have 3 or 4 girls mostly average looking. I was lucky to have found an 8 only once.

Although prices seem cheap it all adds up if you go for extras. BBBJ +2000, anal +4000, outcalls want taxi money and so on. So in the end not as cheap as it seems in SP.

Late night striptease places are good but not my thing as it's no sex. Only erotic dance, no touching.

One massage with happy ending was memorable. I think it was 55000 for one hour. Can touch except the V.

Local date all went well but a bit of a gold digger..[/QUOTE]How much extra for kissing? That's the only thing extra I want.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2656981]How much extra for kissing? That's the only thing extra I want.[/QUOTE]Probably 2000. A few girls did "free" kissing but obviously expecting a tip so left them 1000 tip.

By the time you've paid for extras you end up paying more than in Western Europe. Especially considering hassle of visa cost and flight. No budget flights go there either. 4 hour flight and visa cost me €700+. English not spoken much which makes experience with girls non GFE.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2657377]Probably 2000. A few girls did "free" kissing but obviously expecting a tip so left them 1000 tip.

By the time you've paid for extras you end up paying more than in Western Europe. Especially considering hassle of visa cost and flight. No budget flights go there either. 4 hour flight and visa cost me 700+. English not spoken much which makes experience with girls non GFE.[/QUOTE]Thanks what salons (Names) did you go to?

How do you rate the situation in regards to Mamba girls? The price, availability and quality? I'm interested in one hour out-call meetings. And I don't speak any Russian.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2656790] Stayed at a hotel on Nevsky. Had about 7 in-call sessions in Salons. Only two good experiences. Prices I paid ranged from 4500-9000 for an hour. First day those guys handing out flyers on the street took me to a Salon on Nevsky. Poor line up but still went with an average girl maybe a 6 costing 7000. Straight sex only no BBBJ or kissing. All of that is extra.
Although prices seem cheap it all adds up if you go for extras. BBBJ +2000, anal +4000, outcalls want taxi money and so on. So in the end not as cheap as it seems in SP.[/QUOTE]So we are talking about at least 10000 Rub incl. Taxi and the basic extras. Not very cheap, I agree. In fact slightly more expensive than my last time in Piter. It's the inflation I guess which is directly combined with the weaker Ruble. A pity. If we consider the price for the visa, flight and hotel, not sure if the trip is worth for a foreign monger. Except of course if he anyways has to fly over (for example on a business trip).

I wonder how is the situation in other big cities, like Novosibirsk or Ekaterinburg.

[QUOTE=Rugga;2656790] One massage with happy ending was memorable. I think it was 55000 for one hour. Can touch except the V..[/QUOTE]You mean 5000 rub?

Is there anyone in St Petersburg lately?

I am planning to go in mid March wondering if the war makes it difficult for travelling in Russia.

[QUOTE=Senecio;2668670]Is there anyone in St Petersburg lately?

I am planning to go in mid March wondering if the war makes it difficult for travelling in Russia.[/QUOTE]Yeah I heard the Ruble is down bad! Hope all the great Peters pussys in the salons are in good spirits and doing good?

I heard from a friend, that some hookers are only taking dollars or euros. Which is a bit frustrating as he said, because many bankomats are not giving these anymore, at least for now.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2670702]I heard from a friend, that some hookers are only taking dollars or euros. Which is a bit frustrating as he said, because many bankomats are not giving these anymore, at least for now.[/QUOTE]Looks like the West wants to completely isolate Russia.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2671141]Looks like the West wants to completely isolate Russia.[/QUOTE]Russia = Cuba 2.0?

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2670702]I heard from a friend, that some hookers are only taking dollars or euros. Which is a bit frustrating as he said, because many bankomats are not giving these anymore, at least for now.[/QUOTE]Any reports recently? These sanctions are complete Bull crap talk about Cancel culture.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2673426]Any reports recently? These sanctions are complete Bull crap talk about Cancel culture.[/QUOTE]I would love to ask the same question. How is the situation in Piter now? Any new good salon?

Are the old ones still active?

Heading to Piter soon.

Peace.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2692490]I would love to ask the same question. How is the situation in Piter now? Any new good salon?

Are the old ones still active?

Heading to Piter soon..[/QUOTE]I had flights booked for last month to St P but it all got cancelled due to current situation. I made call to my taxi driver friend who is from Central Asia and lives there and he suggested there is lot more advertising of salons and the locals are still using it. He said there are lot more independent women on the group chats advertising their services but knowledge of Russian language (as expected) is required.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2692898]I had flights booked for last month to St P but it all got cancelled due to current situation. I made call to my taxi driver friend who is from Central Asia and lives there and he suggested there is lot more advertising of salons and the locals are still using it. He said there are lot more independent women on the group chats advertising their services but knowledge of Russian language (as expected) is required.[/QUOTE]I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2699090]I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.[/QUOTE]I hope so, hows your russian language skills. You can get above average experience if you speak russian fluently. Also citizens of very few countries can go there these days. I hope things change back for better but I guess it will take some time.

[QUOTE=CallSignRomeo;2699196]I hope so, hows your russian language skills. You can get above average experience if you speak russian fluently. Also citizens of very few countries can go there these days. I hope things change back for better but I guess it will take some time.[/QUOTE]I have none I still want to go so bad.

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2699090]I hope the Salons are catering to foreigners? I Plan going this winter, Summer was cancelled because of west non sense.[/QUOTE]I think is more individual than that, meaning it varies from person to person. How can she knows if you are a foreigner if you just stand at the door? They never asked me* if I am Russian or not before entering a salon IMO it's about you. Not your passport. If you arrive there wearing cloths like a normal clean person, it does not much matter where are you from (remember that Russia is a multiethnic country). I mean most salons have now cameras in the domofon or above the building door (most of us don't even notice these) you can look like the typical Russian and even have blond hair and blue eyes, but if you walk like a drunker / narco and wear a beaten parka, she will not even answer the bell. Wear a ushanka on top of that and the rejection is guaranteed.

On the other hand you if one arrives wearing good cloths, even if it's casual, but you look like a normal guest, treat them with respect and manners. Then the mamasan will welcome you with a smile, even if you don't look Russian, in my opinion. I myself don't look Russian and have to pass the face control everytime. Even Russians have to pass the face control. They do this not to avoid foreigners, but to avoid troblemakers. It's wise. A friend of mine once went there after work with a big rucksack. Manasan asked him "What do you want? Are you the courier?" Well yes he looks bit kafkaz (this is -including me- almost everybody who has black hair and is not a Asian person, LOL), but the fact that he was with his giant rucksack, gave the impression that he was the Yandex Eda delivery boy. He then explained everything and mamasan finally opened the door for him.

After penetrating into the salon (just to use your nickname as inspiration). Now you have to penetrate thru the next barrier, the girl herself. Like any woman on the planet, she also has her past, her taste and her mentality. We have to respect that. IMO there are 3 kinds of salon girls. The friendly, the unfriendly and the indifferent.

It's not always something connected to you why she is unfriendly, sometimes is a banal reason on her side. Some WGs in Russia are foreigners themselves (usually FSU like Kazakhstan or Ukraine, etc.).

For example once another friend of mine (he is ethnically Russian, so he follows such telegram channels which advertise girls who will be where and when, I don't follow such channels BTW, I just tried my luck) told me that they posted photos of a girl (without face) which was a kind pf primadonna of that specific day. He went there to that salon not because of her, he wanted to see all of them first and then decide. And of course Primadonna was the first to come to the room and introduce herself, after her 3 other girls came.

When she came, the primadonna behaved unfriendly to him, and he didn't not understand why. He chose the 3rd girl and after the sex they were schmoozing as he said, oh your colleague was a bit cold today, and the girl answered joking "Maybe she is just frustrated that you didn't ask for her right when you entered the salon, or even booked her before you came" like many guys do. So, she was offended that she has to compete with the other 2 girls. If this is really the reason for the ice, he will never know.

Most of the girls are -slava bogu- friendly (she enters the room smiles, introduce herself and sometimes even shake hands with you, sometimes even makes a additional turn to show the assets) or indifferent (she enters the room, introduce herself with her timid smile and goes). The unfriendly one is rather rare in my experience (she introduces herself from the door and leaves, no smile or a very faked one, no shaking hands).

Of course I never ever chose an unfriendly one, despite of the fact that sometimes they are really the best looking. But with coldness the dick won't work, so no thanks.

A question to the guys who visit salons: Do you give extra tip? For instance, the price is 5 k per hour, she was good and friendly, you liked the sex, after 1 hour do you just leave after the sex or you give her some additional cash for the good service?

*later in the small talk it can happen of course that she says "so you are a foreigner? Where are you from?" just for curiosity, no offense.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2701772]
A question to the guys who visit salons: Do you give extra tip? For instance, the price is 5 k per hour, she was good and friendly, you liked the sex, after 1 hour do you just leave after the sex or you give her some additional cash for the good service?

*later in the small talk it can happen of course that she says "so you are a foreigner? Where are you from?" just for curiosity, no offense.[/QUOTE]Excellent report San, this is good description of how things work in salons in Russia. To add to your report some salons have CCTV (good ones) and they ask you to take the winter cap (shapka) off and look at the camera for 3 seconds presumably to recognize / snap you and then buzz you in. This kind of salons have good looking ladies and presumably this is done to avoid the trouble makers and idiots as rightly mentioned by you. Not all salon will ask you to look at the camera but majority do have cameras at the door without doubt. Some ladies will only see slavic / slavic looking men and so will not greet you properly when she comes to say Hi which is good as it saves both parties from poor vibes / experience. The ones who like you will do these things- They will give you 'soft eyes' and say Hi (drasveetyeh) with genuine smile and some will come forward and kiss you on cheeks and even hug You. I had one lady shout to me aggressively from behind the door 'I don't speak English' and I replied back 'I speak russian' but this was not enough for her to come into the room. This is before the war / special military operation so now I'm not sure what kind of response foreign guys will get from salon ladies.

You missed some points about the salon. I'll add this here for reference. Before jumping to the bed there is quick get to know meeting between you and the lady. There is onsite bar at most salons that sells drinks at roughly 500-1000 rubles for double whiskey / vodka / rum and whatnot. Contrary to what I thought most ladies will drink and smoke with you and will ask lot of questions and after finishing the cigarette jump into action. I think this is the right approach as she gets chance to know you little bit. For this reason I have said in earlier posts that speaking even some russian can give you better experience. Also you have to take the compulsory shower as she goes to the bar to get the drinks and grab her cigs.

About tip- Absolutely Yes! But only if there was chemistry and if I had good time. It goes without saying. But they know I'm coming from Europe so it is already expected and paid accordingly.

I agree with Romeo. And I am happy that the forum (well at least this thread) is back on focusing on things that really matter to the mongers and less on boring politics which has nothing to do with sex IMO.

About my experience in Piter I can say that the saloni are slowly becoming more professional- well it will possibly lose that old 'amateur' charm, but I'm fine with that.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2701772]I think is more individual than that, meaning it varies from person to person. How can she knows if you are a foreigner if you just stand at the door? They never asked me* if I am Russian or not before entering a salon IMO it's about you. Not your passport. If you arrive there wearing cloths like a normal clean person, it does not much matter where are you from (remember that Russia is a multiethnic country). I mean most salons have now cameras in the domofon or above the building door (most of us don't even notice these) you can look like the typical Russian and even have blond hair and blue eyes, but if you walk like a drunker / narco and wear a beaten parka, she will not even answer the bell. Wear a ushanka on top of that and the rejection is guaranteed.

On the other hand you if one arrives wearing good cloths, even if it's casual, but you look like a normal guest, treat them with respect and manners. Then the mamasan will welcome you with a smile, even if you don't look Russian, in my opinion. I myself don't look Russian and have to pass the face control everytime. Even Russians have to pass the face control. They do this not to avoid foreigners, but to avoid troblemakers. It's wise. A friend of mine once went there after work with a big rucksack. Manasan asked him "What do you want? Are you the courier?" Well yes he looks bit kafkaz (this is -including me- almost everybody who has black hair and is not a Asian person, LOL), but the fact that he was with his giant rucksack, gave the impression that he was the Yandex Eda delivery boy. He then explained everything and mamasan finally opened the door for him.

After penetrating into the salon (just to use your nickname as inspiration). Now you have to penetrate thru the next barrier, the girl herself. Like any woman on the planet, she also has her past, her taste and her mentality. We have to respect that. IMO there are 3 kinds of salon girls. The friendly, the unfriendly and the indifferent.

It's not always something connected to you why she is unfriendly, sometimes is a banal reason on her side. Some WGs in Russia are foreigners themselves (usually FSU like Kazakhstan or Ukraine, etc.)..[/QUOTE]I think it will be best to say ' I am not American' and say you are from Cuba, Argentina or Venezuela best.

Relax, most likely nobody will ask where are you from if you just enter, pay, fuck and leave. Bye bye. And IMO she doesn't care much where clients are from; if she bother to ask it will be by pure and naive curiosity. Most girls com from a simple background and the interest for geopolitics is rather limited, which is good, because I am not there to have a deep talk about some boring topics, didn't sign for that.

And this is what I like in Asian, Russian and "most" German hookers, they don't talk much, ha ha, other than Latinas (not dissing Latinas, it's just sometimes difficult to concentrate when the girl is too talkative). I know that some guys just go there for talking, but for me nah, I can do it with my psychologist, which is a real pro.

If the Russian WG talks it's the usual relevant questions like "sverkhu?" or something technical related to a position like "rakom", "Missionerskaya"? I can tell an anecdote my Russian pal told me about a talkative WG he met in Moscow. "-Nooo, Actually I am a student, I am writing about sociology, I am doing this job just for a short time, in fact I like communication too and bla bla bla" Then she started to ask him questions left and right, he used an old trick that almost always work. Instead of being rude "-Shut up suchka and keep sucking!" he kindly answered "-Oh you know what, this seems to be an very interesting topic, I would love to talk to you deeeper about it in all the details and angles after hours, give me your number please". Of course she didn't give the number (and he knew she wouldn't give) and the empty talking ended right there by herself as she understood the indirect subtle message.

My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2714210]My Russian friend (who is too shy to post here) has been last week to one of the venues of this chain. By the way the title is a inside hint for itself, because some Russians don't call a hooker a hooker, they use more subtle nicknames like "butterfly" or "fairy".

Logistics: 25 minutes from the center by car. This one was difficult to find because it was in a backyard, and in a basement. When he came down, he also saw a Jacuzzi there and a sauna (but the client can use those only if he stays for at least 2 hours). What was different in this 'salon' is the fact that the girls come, iniside the lobby (where he was supposed to wait) introduce themselves and all of them stayed in the lobby, 8 girls in a line. He then chose one and went to the room with her. Stayed for 1 hour. Thus could not use the Jacuzzi, only the shower.

Prices: 1 hour 6 k. 2 Hours 10 k. BBBJ from 3 k (individual decision of the girl, so not all girls do it). He said he would put it in the same level like Pride, but lower than Frau M.[/QUOTE]Does this place have a website?

[QUOTE=Penetrador;2714989]Does this place have a website?[/QUOTE]Websit Idk, I think he contacted them by phone as he is fluent. I can send you the number by PM if you are in town. I will ask him.

BTW my same Russian friend who just came back from Piter, put together some numbers and these are some of the salons he visited:

-Salon / Chain. -From bad to good.

-Yavamdam Ellis Pride / Love butterfly Frau M Top Indis (not salom).

Respective prices for a 'classic service' of 1 hours (na chasik).

-2500 (quickie, 30 min.) to 5 k (1 hour) 4 k to 6 k 4500 Rub to 6 k 8 k to 12 k (depending of the girl category you choose). BBBJ is usually from 2 k (Nevsky 63) to 5 k, it depends on the girl. And anal, it's also additional service, and not all girls do it.

But there is no 'top limit', if the client has money, it looks like the sky is the limit. There are Indis in Moscow and Piter who are waaay over 15 k per meeting. For example, a 9 or a 10 for 36 k for the whole night. But this is GFE for a lifetime he said.

In Piter, some girls live in the salon (specially those young newbies one who just came from the province and didn't find a place to live yet which is difficult in any big city), but some have their own flats (specially those local ones and not so young ones).

BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2715727]BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.[/QUOTE]Sounds good I will try to go when I come this Winter.

Asian here (not from a so called 'unfriendly country') on business in the RF. Went to a strip bar last night. Not very interesting atmosphere, but girls were nice, almost nobody speaks English. I want to try Legenda men's club this weekend. I asked them on telegram for blond Katya 21 yo. With that perfect ass. So the admin answered that classical sex 6 k Rub per hour on their location. If she comes to my hotel it's more expensive + taxi. If I order her, I will report the results here.

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2715345]BTW my same Russian friend who just came back from Piter, put together some numbers and these are some of the salons he visited:

-Salon / Chain. -From bad to good.

-Yavamdam Ellis Pride / Love butterfly Frau M Top Indis (not salom).
[/QUOTE]Didn't find anything on Google with these. Did you mean the Yavamdam was bad and the Butterfly was good?

[QUOTE=SanGaetano;2715727]BTW today I have a question to my fellow mongers:

Have anyone here tried the big salon at Tallinskoye shosse 172?

I heard it's a lot of girls there and their prices are quite competitive. But that was not first hand info, so I am a bit skeptic.[/QUOTE]Hi, do you know the name of the salon?

Some girls have no problem is showing the face like here for example, these for instance [URL]https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1229[/URL].

[URL]https://modeli-spb.club/model/1894/[/URL]

Others prefer to hide, because they are shy:

[URL]https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1225[/URL]

[URL]https://spb-putana.com/devochka.php?id=1218[/URL]

When I was in Piter I tried them. Will report soon.

Hi every1.

I'm still debating if I should go to Ukraine or Russia now. I checked your listing price about $80 / HR for a slim MILF 36 yrs old in St pete is a very I mean EXTREMELY good deal compare to what we have in San Francisco. We are ranging from $350-$400/ HR to as high as $2500 / HR. The $2500/ HR ones may not be as good as you think. The girls and their managers understand that the meaning of beauty is very fluid / vague. One man's ***** is another man's queen. There will be guys willing to pay $2500/ HR for that particular one. Oh well. What the FK I care. I have planned to move to Kyiv or Ukraine for a long time not for hookers but just for normal girls in general but this war came. If I go there now, I may just stay in Livi and may go to Kyiv sometime. If things don't go well, I want to go to St. Pete but they may not let me in then if I come from Ukraine. If I go to Russia now, Ukraine will not let me in after that. I can only pick 1 now. So I'm debating and ask you guys for advice. I certainly don't want to be on the news like this stupid American die while seeing a hooker in Kyiv when the bomb dropped on his apartment building. I'm sure most guys will tell me Russia because there are more girls there and 300 K to 600 K guys just got mobilized so it may help foreigners living in Russia a little bit. My Visa expired on Sept 3rd so I have to get another 1 again. Once I got this visa on my passport, Ukraine will not let me in for at least 3 years. (but this war may last 3 yrs) Is it worth it? Visa costed $400 3 years ago. Now, it may take longer and more expensive. Or can I get a visa at the airport? What do you guys suggest in terms of picking up normal girls? I will go to their universities like I did in Kyiv.

Oh if you are talking about Irina, oh she was fantastic, better than in the pictures. I think she is rather 180 cm BTW, but I guess the webmaster / webmistress decided to put 177 in order not scare short guys (which in Piter are more common than in Moscow), at least she had the decency of wearing not very high heels, Uff. I am also rather a tall guy, but I prefer to look down to the girl. No English thou, tolko poruski. I would describe her as a lady with experience in the subject. What else, hmm, friendly, good skin (usually Russian women take care of themselves until late ages, other than, truth being said, many of their men). The hair was clean and soft like silk. So yes I recommend her.

[QUOTE=BobSmith1;2759311]Hi every1.

I'm still debating if I should go to Ukraine or Russia now. I checked your listing price about $80 / HR for a slim MILF 36 yrs old in St pete is a very I mean EXTREMELY good deal compare to what we have in San Francisco. We are ranging from $350-$400/ HR to as high as $2500 / HR. The $2500/ HR ones may not be as good as you think. The girls and their managers understand that the meaning of beauty is very fluid / vague. One man's ***** is another man's queen. There will be guys willing to pay $2500/ HR for that particular one. Oh well. What the FK I care. I have planned to move to Kyiv or Ukraine for a long time not for hookers but just for normal girls in general but this war came. If I go there now, I may just stay in Livi and may go to Kyiv sometime. If things don't go well, I want to go to St. Pete but they may not let me in then if I come from Ukraine. If I go to Russia now, Ukraine will not let me in after that. I can only pick 1 now. So I'm debating and ask you guys for advice. I certainly don't want to be on the news like this stupid American die while seeing a hooker in Kyiv when the bomb dropped on his apartment building. I'm sure most guys will tell me Russia because there are more girls there and 300 K to 600 K guys just got mobilized so it may help foreigners living in Russia a little bit. My Visa expired on Sept 3rd so I have to get another 1 again. Once I got this visa on my passport, Ukraine will not let me in for at least 3 years. (but this war may last 3 yrs) Is it worth it? Visa costed $400 3 years ago. Now, it may take longer and more expensive. Or can I get a visa at the airport? What do you guys suggest in terms of picking up normal girls? I will go to their universities like I did in Kyiv.[/QUOTE]

There maybe a visa free entry to the RF from June 1, 2023.

[QUOTE=Questner;2759624]There maybe a visa free entry to the RF from June 1, 2023.[/QUOTE]Anybody have reports on the Salons? How are the Snowbunnies doing?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2768038]Anybody have reports on the Salons? How are the Snowbunnies doing?[/QUOTE]Here is another one for you. [URL]https://legendaspb.com/[/URL] No idea about 'Zayki'. You will do us a favour and post a report or anything useful for this hobby.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2768038]Anybody have reports on the Salons? How are the Snowbunnies doing?[/QUOTE]
My contact on the field said that Fontanka closed last week. The resident girls Asya (from Buryatia), Irina (Euro Russian) and the hot Moldovian Maya (who speaks English) among others migrated to Sweets (it's the same chain thou) at Nevsky 108. Sweets is clean, has a good interior, I would put it somewhere on a level between Pride and FrauM.

Now in general about salons: Despite the fact that the rules of all salons in Piter is ONLY CONDOM, there are some girls who allow bareback if the guest pay additional fee aka Doponlnie, but this is a minority. Depends on the girl and it's under the table, I always had my knishki from local Invitro with me, so in case she asks I can show it. On the island Vasilevsky on the other side of the river I had a session back in the summer (a salon disguised as mini Hotel) the sex was so good that for the 2nd round we both just forgot about the rubber, at the end she didn't even ask for "Do", but I gave her anyway, 3 k as "Do".

My English speaking friend who is a local, knows the majority of the salons in town, a real connaisseur. He goes every week to the saloni, he could write many pages of excellent reports here, every single week. So I asked him to post here, he even created an account, but when he was trying to post the site asked him to pay. He told me that he does not see the point of paying to post reports of distinction, so he just wrote his adventures on Russian sites like amour or sextalk. There he can post for free, how often he wants, and he even posted photos.

The only place he does not recommend foreign mongers to go for now is Liteiny Prospect 16. And I have to agree with his opinion as I have been there in the summer myself. The quality was similar to yavamdam.

They are in the same street, but they couldn't be more different. Gorokhovaya St, 46 and Gorokhovaya St, 3. Of course different chains.

House 46 is an old house, big and chaotic, inside looks like an old school komunalka. One bathroom for the entire salon. But the place is clean. It has a bit of soviet style thou, at the best 90ies. And so is mamasan, basically a babushka; SMS, Whatsapp? Forget it, here she prefers the old good telephone. Plenty of girls inside, and they are fine, but don't expect too much intellect here. But for his surprise, the place seems to be popular, always many male shoes on the entrance, many times while going to his room he hears the screaming aaahhhh, coming from different rooms, maybe the popularity is because of the attractive price, but actually, I don't know, there are some guys who like this kind of mess. It has its romance.

House number 3: basically the contrary. Renovated building. A quiet orderly flat. The young girls run the salon, yes, here there is no mamasan, something very rare for Russia (well he does not know if there is a security guy hidden somewhere). Inside, not too big but nice interior, almost on the level of FrauM, there is a room which has bathroom, and one with Jacuzzi. The other rooms, he does not know how they look like. Usually 2-3 girls working inside, he went to all of them, they have class. He said there was never a case when he has been there and there was already a guest. Prices slightly higher than House number 46.

Both places are fine, they just look different and they are different.

I am a little surprised the House on yl. Gorokhovaya 3, isn't as busy as the other one, there appears to be no less than three hotels very close to this salon. I haven't been to St. Petersburg since the mid 90's, would you know if this is a central location of the city and a good area to stay? Once things stabilize in Russia, possible a new government, St. Petes is top of my list of places to visit.

They are in the same street, but they couldn't be more different. Gorokhovaya St, 46 and Gorokhovaya St, 3. Of course different chains.

House 46 is an old house, big and chaotic, inside looks like an old school komunalka. One bathroom for the entire salon. But the place is clean. It has a bit of soviet style thou, at the best 90 ies. And so is mamasan, basically a babushka; SMS, Whatsapp? Forget it, here she prefers the old good telephone. Plenty of girls inside, and they are fine, but don't expect too much intellect here. But for his surprise, the place seems to be popular, always many male shoes on the entrance, many times while going to his room he hears the screaming aaahhhh, coming from different rooms, maybe the popularity is because of the attractive price, but actually, I don't know, there are some guys who like this kind of mess. It has its romance.

House number 3: basically the contrary. Renovated building. A quiet orderly flat. The young girls run the salon, yes, here there is no mamasan, something very rare for Russia (well he does not know if there is a security guy hidden somewhere). Inside, not too big but nice interior, almost on the level of FrauM, there is a room which has bathroom, and one with Jacuzzi. The other rooms, he does not know how they look like. Usually 2-3 girls working inside, he went to all of them, they have class. He said there was never a case when he has been there and there was already a guest. Prices slightly higher than House number 46.

Both places are fine, they just look different and they are different.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2774197]They are in the same street, but they couldn't be more different. Gorokhovaya St, 46 and Gorokhovaya St, 3. Of course different chains.

House 46 is an old house, big and chaotic, inside looks like an old school komunalka. One bathroom for the entire salon. But the place is clean. It has a bit of soviet style thou, at the best 90ies. And so is mamasan, basically a babushka; SMS, Whatsapp? Forget it, here she prefers the old good telephone. Plenty of girls inside, and they are fine, but don't expect too much intellect here. But for his surprise, the place seems to be popular, always many male shoes on the entrance, many times while going to his room he hears the screaming aaahhhh, coming from different rooms, maybe the popularity is because of the attractive price, but actually, I don't know, there are some guys who like this kind of mess. It has its romance.

House number 3: basically the contrary. Renovated building. A quiet orderly flat. The young girls run the salon, yes, here there is no mamasan, something very rare for Russia (well he does not know if there is a security guy hidden somewhere). Inside, not too big but nice interior, almost on the level of FrauM, there is a room which has bathroom, and one with Jacuzzi. The other rooms, he does not know how they look like. Usually 2-3 girls working inside, he went to all of them, they have class. He said there was never a case when he has been there and there was already a guest. Prices slightly higher than House number 46..[/QUOTE]Would like to see how attractive are the girls on both houses.

That Russian friend of mine who lives in the northern capital with his curious tales again:

Here we go again. So recently he has been to the infamous saloon "Sweets" at Nevsky 108. For his surprise, the mamasan host was lesbian girl with Black short hair. In his opinion, not attractive at all: short and a bit obese. Always wearing Black. Yes it's not the first encounter he had with her. She treated him quite unfriendly, for example she does not offer tapochki, neither tea / coffee, knock on the door 15 minutes before the time is over, among other bad behavior. And when he asked around among other mongers, they had similar experience. So he has 2 possible theories: she hates men (which is strange, because men are paying her fucking salary), and / or the stud in question is dating one (or even more than one) of the girls who work in that salon and that's why she is a bit jealous, but here again I have to ask: why the fuck is she working there in the first place? Find yourself a job as a truck driver or something. Mamasans usually come and go, so he hopes she also will leave soon. But for now, he does not recommend any monger to go there anymore, specially foreign ones. Instead you can go to esis Lebedeva for example: esisspb Malyshki na Lebedeva; for the time being. He will post again when the stud stops working there. Meanwhile he recognize her voice (a deep one), so from time to time he just calls check if she is still there. He will keep us updated.

The Legendary Salon at Nevsky 63 closed. And this time it's not just for remont. But as my local contact reported, the girls (including the hot blonde Sofia aka Veronika aka Vika) were relocated to Goroxovaya 3, so there is hope.

Hi every1.

I used to be able to find apartment on Airbnb in Russia but now Airbnb got banned in Russia so I'm just wondering if there any alternative to find apartment in St. Petersburg? I may go there next month. Going to Ukraine is kinda risky but I heard that many people returning back to Kyiv now but I still think its safer to go to Russia for now. I go to Ukraine after the war is over.

One of my friends who is rich only lives in high end hotel in St. Peter but I just want to rent an apartment for a few months. I may go to Thailand after Russia hit cold winter.

So yea hopefully some of you guys can give me some clues where to find apartments in St. Peter, Thank you!!

[QUOTE=Putologist;2800751]The Legendary Salon at Nevsky 63 closed. And this time it's not just for remont. But as my local contact reported, the girls (including the hot blonde Sofia aka Veronika aka Vika) were relocated to Goroxovaya 3, so there is hope.[/QUOTE]Any reports on the salons lately? Quality of girls? Better or worse? I bet Mr Putin has visited some Salons in his hometown!

I heard that Olis and high rank politicians, tv stars etc. They don't visit salons. Usually, they book (or rather order somebody book for them) 5 star hotel where they regularly meet the girls. My local friend asked one of his favorites night butterflies, tall slim blond Yana, why she never came back to that salon again. "-Did you marry? Left the profession? Church? "-Nah, I am now working in another, let's say chain". -Cool which one? "-Oh dear, no offense, but it's not of your league". If you ask me, I would became offended, because he is not a poor guy, much on the contrary. But as a Russian he is used to the cold Russian frankness. He took it cool: "-I see what you mean. Those few lucky bastards". If you ask Russian people, specially hot girls about their opinion on something, be prepared to hear some -maybe- politically incorrect answers (it's not rudeness, it's the way they use to communicate).

About saloni news I will post something next week. Stay tuned.

Did somebody try Natasha, the new girl at sweets (but she used to be at Fontanka thou)?

A funny story happened to my Russian friend. About his first time when he has been to Goroxovaya 13. (to enter the yard the code is 7777 and bell BTW). He enter the yard, then he ring at the correct building (there are many buildings there). So far so good. Nobody opens the door. He rings again the flat number. Door opens. He goes up to the correct floor where there are 2 flats on the floor. One door was open. He logically thought this is the flat, so he enters, removes the shoes. Waits for the mamasan but nobody comes. He then enters the living room and see a divan. He seats at the divan. Waits for the mamasan. After some minutes a girl comes from the kitchen and says surprised "-Who are you, what are you doing in my flat?" he says "Oh I am sorry, it must have been a mistake, the door was open. " - "She: It was open because my friend said he is coming up ". And few seconds later the friend (2 m tall and not amused with the situation) arrived. But my friend left and ringed on the opposite flat (which is the salon). The girl called him a idiot and shut the door loud. Mamasam finally opened the correct door with a sleepy face and asked him to enter. When he was inside, she asked him why did he enter the neighbors flat. He explained. And she also was not amused with the situation. But he had a good sex. When he told the story to the girl he fucked, she laughed.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2800751]The Legendary Salon at Nevsky 63 closed. And this time it's not just for remont. But as my local contact reported, the girls (including the hot blonde Sofia aka Veronika aka Vika) were relocated to Goroxovaya 3, so there is hope.[/QUOTE]Hey every1.

I'm in St. Pete now. For a few days now. I have contacted spb-club via whatsapp. Only the business line responded me. The comfort line has not responded me yet.

I just used google translated. They are not opened today maybe its is the rain. She told me they will open tomorrow 11:00.

Does Goroxovaya 3 still operational? Is there a number to text before I go? Or should I just go there and knock on door? Is there a door code I have to enter?

It looks harder than Ukraine. Ukraine was so easy for almost every thing girls related stuff.

I have taken some taxi rides and those drivers told me there is some massage place that he know of but its 5000 rub just for a massage with some touching, 3 k for lap dance.

With some touching. 2 k for only lap dance no touching. At least this driver is honest with everything.

Anyways, hope you guys can give me some real guidance. So only spb-putana and spb-club? Does Goroxovaya 3 belong to either of those? Thank you guys!!

IMO the problem with this salon is that they don't have many girls there. And compared with Pride and Fraum they are not very good organized, as for my understanding, the girls themselves organize the schedules (a rare format for Piter).

There are some other salons in town that nobody mentioned here to date, and they are okay as well, but some basic Russian would help in the pre negotiation process. These are small boutique type salons, not chains, they don't have websites, don't make leaflets reklama and don't use telegram. Most mongers know them from mouth to mouth recommendations. They are usually cheaper than most main stream saloni. But dont expect Frau M quality there.

Peace.

[QUOTE=BobSmith1;2840788]Hey every1.

I'm in St. Pet...[/QUOTE]

My local source said that the Fontanka location is back. Now as a part of the Pride team. Few minutes walking from Nevsky / Rubinstein. Nice view to the River.

My Russian friend who lives in Piter told me that in some salons the price has been raised. He's not amused. But according to him at Grorokhovaya the price remains the same yet. By the way he has been in this salon again, new girl Amelya is a great experience. Very friendly and looks good. They talked nicely, she is kind and well mannered (not sure what he meant by that, I will find out myself next time I will be in Piter), did not make pressure with the time. Basically she did everything he wanted/expected. On sweets (price did not change there) Nevsky 108 he also tried new girl: Agata. She was a bit strange in his subjective opinon, cold in a way but looked tired as if she was coming from a hangover (it happens as many girls also work deep in the night), also smelling accordingly. This kind of attitude is rather seldom in sweets. This my Russian friend usually goes down there for some licking, but the smell coming from the South was not inviting (he used the word herring to be precise) this time he decided not to travel down there with his tongue. Also, she was much skinnier than in the photos. Now this can be positive or negative according to your own taste. As for me I like skinny girls. In general the experience with her was not so great, but a bit was also his own fault, I mean when he understood that she looks uncomely and tired, so IMO he could have refused the service and just ask for another girl. It's your right, remember that, but do this before she removes her cloth and before you pay. BTW this same Russian dude told me about his recent trip to Moscow, he will post something in the Moscow thread soon, so stay tuned.

BTW he gave me 2 new tips: #1 This is valid for almost all Eastern European countries: When you arrive at the salon and you already chose the girl and already paid, so everything is ready, and the moment arrives when she offers you a towel for the shower: take the shower, even if you just came from hotel where you took a long bath. Trust me, even if it is just a symbolic 2-3 minutes quick shower before the sex is a sign of respect towards the girl. And by doing that (specially if you already did it before coming to the salon) is a hint that you value cleanliness, so she will be more comfortable thinking that you are a clean "healthy" guy and may even suck / kiss with more passion. And #2 always bring one condom or 2 with you just in case, because for a one hour fun, some girls have in her purse only 2 condoms (2 cums in one hour), I myself rarely cum more than 2 times in a 1 hour session, so for me I never had this situation: My Russian friend came 2 times, but still had more than 25 minutes left, so he asked her to put it on as the dick was still hungry and hard, she said she does not have more condom, he insisted, so she said she must go to the mamasan in order to get more condoms, so she weared her underwear and looked at the corridor if there was somebody there, she waited some seconds and went out. It took some minutes until she returned, but she finally got the condom, so she put the condom on his dick, but by then the dick was already not that hard (the waiting turned him off), if he already had a condom there ready to be used, he would not lose the time. I already knew about these 2 tricks, but anyway some newbies don't.

So here a update my Russian friend -who lives in Piter- sent me recently: it's about level of organization and reliability by the management of the main salons in town. Its not even the main, to be fair let's say they are some of the main saloni. Ok so, here 1 means bad and 5 means excellent: Goroxovaya 46:1 (they have many girls, so this may be a reason why there are some chaos there from time to time. But it's also fair to say that girls here are among the friendliest in the Piterburshie salonisphere), ya vam dam: 2 (lack of professionalism but their price is unbeatable), Goroxovaya 3: 3 (does not open everyday), Sweets Nevsky 108:3/2 (the problem here is the internal drama going on, for example they have a Lesbian 'Administrator', which for some mongers is a turn off), Pride: 4 (but they have less girls, so it's easier to organize/schedule), FrauM: 5 (very professional staff, friendly girls). About Indies, it's difficult to generalize, but he would put most of them in the level 2 (a big problem among many indies are the fake photos, the girls exist, but the pics are either old or photoshoped. For comparison: most salons don't fake photos, because the girls themselves don't upload photos, who does it is the salon's IT guy / webmaster / whoever is in charge of the website) for prices under 10 k and level 3 for prices above 10 k.

Now a story my local source (Russian monger) told me recently. He said that a WG who works in one of the salons above became quite intimate with him (meaning, she became a friend), and she told him all the weird stories she saw. For example, one of her regular clients, a married obese guy who is not even that old, maybe mid 30 ies, comes to her regularly and bring some vibrators or dildos. He "fucks" her with the vibrator. He gets excited when she gets exited from this game, that's his kick. And of course she plays along. He himself never penetrated her nor the other girls in the salon. "-A perfect client" that's what she said.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2863996]So here a update my Russian friend -who lives in Piter- sent me recently: it's about level of organization and reliability by the management of the main salons in town. Its not even the main, to be fair let's say they are some of the main saloni. Ok so, here 1 means bad and 5 means excellent: Goroxovaya 46:1 (they have many girls, so this may be a reason why there are some chaos there from time to time. But it's also fair to say that girls here are among the friendliest in the Piterburshie salonisphere), ya vam dam: 2 (lack of professionalism but their price is unbeatable), Goroxovaya 3: 3 (does not open everyday), Sweets Nevsky 108:3/2 (the problem here is the internal drama going on, for example they have a Lesbian 'Administrator', which for some mongers is a turn off), Pride: 4 (but they have less girls, so it's easier to organize/schedule), FrauM: 5 (very professional staff, friendly girls). About Indies, it's difficult to generalize, but he would put most of them in the level 2 (a big problem among many indies are the fake photos, the girls exist, but the pics are either old or photoshoped. For comparison: most salons don't fake photos, because the girls themselves don't upload photos, who does it is the salon's IT guy / webmaster / whoever is in charge of the website) for prices under 10 k and level 3 for prices above 10 k.

Now a story my local source (Russian monger) told me recently. He said that a WG who works in one of the salons above became quite intimate with him (meaning, she became a friend), and she told him all the weird stories she saw. For example, one of her regular clients, a married obese guy who is not even that old, maybe mid 30 ies, comes to her regularly and bring some vibrators or dildos. He "fucks" her with the vibrator. He gets excited when she gets exited from this game, that's his kick. And of course she plays along. He himself never penetrated her nor the other girls in the salon. "-A perfect client" that's what she said.[/QUOTE]Was thinking of going this Winter but looks like war is not over.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2864305]Was thinking of going this Winter but looks like war is not over.[/QUOTE]The war is not in Russia.

[QUOTE=IlDrago;2864464]The war is not in Russia.[/QUOTE]So tourists are Welcomed?

Okay, so Anya (real age 23,20 at the site. But anyway she looks like 18 thou) is the new girl at sweets, tested by my local buddy recently. Her real hair color is "svetlo-rusyy" but rather blond, pretty milky face. She painted to dark brown now. As for Anna (26 at the site) , the color is rusyy and she painted blond, pretty face too. In terms of sympathy he was more attracted to Anna (kissed, was more friendly). But the #1 of the moment is the hot Kleo (also rusyy hair). But unfortunately she will leave soon to Macao where (according to him) she usually works in the casino industry (not as WG).

In the other news: Goroxovaya 46 (the best price-benefit in his opinion) is closed for now, nobody knows the real reason.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2875855]Okay, so Anya (real age 23,20 at the site. But anyway she looks like 18 thou) is the new girl at sweets, tested by my local buddy recently. Her real hair color is "svetlo-rusyy" but rather blond, pretty milky face. She painted to dark brown now. As for Anna (26 at the site) , the color is rusyy and she painted blond, pretty face too. In terms of sympathy he was more attracted to Anna (kissed, was more friendly). But the #1 of the moment is the hot Kleo (also rusyy hair). But unfortunately she will leave soon to Macao where (according to him) she usually works in the casino industry (not as WG). [/QUOTE]Does this "sweets" salon have a website with photos? Search function failed me, I am sure this info is buried somewhere 20 pages back.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2863996]So here a update my Russian friend -who lives in Piter- sent me recently: it's about level of organization and reliability by the management of the main salons in town. Its not even the main, to be fair let's say they are some of the main saloni. Ok so, here 1 means bad and 5 means excellent: Goroxovaya 46:1 (they have many girls, so this may be a reason why there are some chaos there from time to time. But it's also fair to say that girls here are among the friendliest in the Piterburshie salonisphere), ya vam dam: 2 (lack of professionalism but their price is unbeatable), Goroxovaya 3: 3 (does not open everyday), Sweets Nevsky 108:3/2 (the problem here is the internal drama going on, for example they have a Lesbian 'Administrator', which for some mongers is a turn off), Pride: 4 (but they have less girls, so it's easier to organize/schedule), FrauM: 5 (very professional staff, friendly girls). About Indies, it's difficult to generalize, but he would put most of them in the level 2 (a big problem among many indies are the fake photos, the girls exist, but the pics are either old or photoshoped. For comparison: most salons don't fake photos, because the girls themselves don't upload photos, who does it is the salon's IT guy / webmaster / whoever is in charge of the website) for prices under 10 k and level 3 for prices above 10 k.

Now a story my local source (Russian monger) told me recently. He said that a WG who works in one of the salons above became quite intimate with him (meaning, she became a friend), and she told him all the weird stories she saw. For example, one of her regular clients, a married obese guy who is not even that old, maybe mid 30 ies, comes to her regularly and bring some vibrators or dildos. He "fucks" her with the vibrator. He gets excited when she gets exited from this game, that's his kick. And of course she plays along. He himself never penetrated her nor the other girls in the salon. "-A perfect client" that's what she said.[/QUOTE]Nice summary thank you for the info. It would be really helpful if we had links or at least contact info for all the salons you mentioned since they are not exactly easy to search for online (only site I was able to find is [URL]fraum.net[/URL]). Maybe there is a post somewhere in this thread with a list of all the salons along with links and other info but I was not able to find it.

Yes, I texted you about it. By the way in Russia it's public holidays until 10.1. As far as I remember. But also many salons are closed. Better to call them before driving all the way to face closed doors.

I hope 2024 will be a better year for us mongers.

So I've been lucky enough to be back in Russia.

SPB was my first stop and I stayed over a week there.

There are not so many escorts as in Moscow and I've short listed maybe 40 girls, from 50 euros to 250 euros / h.

But the quality is there, and there are a lot of gems at the 50-100 bracket. Unlike Moscow, some of these girls work in a salon, which vary in quality / cleanliness but the girls are top notch, really hot and clean. SPB did not disapoint. I have fond memories of three girls there, one indie was actually tatar but extremly hot for a ridiculous 60€ per hour and the other two were working in good salons for 50 and 70 euros per hour. That price point is absolutely insane for such stunning girls. The salon girls can do outcall for a ridiculous extra 10 euros.

Managers and girls were all acting professionnaly and only one girl refused to meet when I told her I was a foreigner.

And when not mongering, it was really nice to just walk in the snow with the pretty SPB decorations even though it was -20 and freezing cold because of the humidity.

[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2889099]So I've been lucky enough to be back in Russia.

SPB was my first stop and I stayed over a week there.

There are not so many escorts as in Moscow and I've short listed maybe 40 girls, from 50 euros to 250 euros / h.

But the quality is there, and there are a lot of gems at the 50-100 bracket. Unlike Moscow, some of these girls work in a salon, which vary in quality / cleanliness but the girls are top notch, really hot and clean. SPB did not disapoint. I have fond memories of three girls there, one indie was actually tatar but extremly hot for a ridiculous 60 per hour and the other two were working in good salons for 50 and 70 euros per hour. That price point is absolutely insane for such stunning girls. The salon girls can do outcall for a ridiculous extra 10 euros.

Managers and girls were all acting professionnaly and only one girl refused to meet when I told her I was a foreigner.

And when not mongering, it was really nice to just walk in the snow with the pretty SPB decorations even though it was -20 and freezing cold because of the humidity.[/QUOTE]Which salons did you go to? Can recommend?

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2893291]Which salons did you go to? Can recommend?[/QUOTE]I went to two salons.

First one has all the girls pictures and schedule on telegram, look for "evasex12". The salon is kinda crap but they have hot girls. YMMV obviously.

Other one is a higher quality salon right in the middle of Nevsky, on Sadovaya Street 13-15. The number I got online on WhatsApp is: +7 921xxxx3-46.

They asked some questions to make sure I wasn't law enforcement. In both cases you can order outcall to your place, it's barely more expensive and totally worth it if you can. Do note they will send the girl with a driver that will go up in the apartment to check everything is ok, there is no trap for the girl and collect the payment.

Report from my local buddy: Lika is very friendly. She was recently "promoted" from Goroshovaya 46 to Sweets. As she deserved. Oksana (blond former Pride) moved to Frau M. So, there is a fluctuation going on. By the way I have the impression that Pride is now history. IMO a victim of the new and aggressive telegram salons competition, that actually work (meaning not all of them are fake), basically a syndication of different indis with no central "krysha" , mostly using private flats for the sessions. It's kind of messy and difficult to find quality there, but there are. Anyways, I hope we see some new fresh faces in the salons of the city.

I am not living in Russia. Interested for VC with girls. Please dm me some contacts.

Can someone help me. Please.

1. Where to stay in St. Petersburg for city sightseeing and mongering??

2. Best Salon??

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=XioCat3;2933112]Can someone help me. Please.

1. Where to stay in St. Petersburg for city sightseeing and mongering??

2. Best Salon??

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Yup Peter is so much better than Paris.

I have found the website for Frau M however it seems a little expensive.

[URL]https://fraum.net/[/URL]

Has anyone tried the strip clubs and how do they compare to the erotic massage spas?

Private Bar, Nevsky Ave, 60, St Petersburg, Russia, 191023.
[URL]https://zavist.bar/[/URL]

Velvet Touch.
Malaya Sadovaya St, 1/25, St Petersburg, Russia, 191023.
[URL]https://velvettouch.ru/[/URL]

Sova bien, Nevsky Ave, 60, St Petersburg, Russia, 191023.
[URL]https://sovabien.ru/spb[/URL]

Flirt Bar, Rubinstein St, 1/43, St Petersburg, Russia, 191025.
[URL]https://zavist.bar/[/URL]

Gatsby, Nevsky Ave, 47, St Petersburg, Russia, 191025.
[URL]https://gatsby-strip.bar/[/URL]

Day 4 reached SPB, had booked a single bedroom apartment with kitchen and all accessories right in the middle of Nevsky prospect.

FYI, girls were more GFE in SPB compared the Moscow and less expensive as well.

Met a girl in her apartment for 8 k for 1 hour, Super duper GFE with DFK (I mostly avoid), BBBJ, ready to explore all positions. Got her contact via website.

Day 5, took a gal via fraum, they don't have girls below 15 k. Took one for 20 k +1 k for taxi to apartment. Very good experience, what ever was promised in telegram was provided.

Day 6 dosugbarspb – pinged a super hot girl, 15 k for an hour + 1 k taxi to apartment. Same night visited the walking street of SPB. Me and my friend was welcomed to every bar without cover charge, every strip club without any upfront payment, Being from India haven't seen this kind of hospitality in none of the Asian countries. The people at the normal club or strip clubs were so inviting, we saw other had to pay an entry free but for us we were let inside for free.

Day 7 took repeated the day 6 girl and left SPB.

Overall SPB was friendlier and happening compared to Moscow. We did spend a couple of thousand each on the stripclub but that was just for the experience, we didn't take any girls there. Also in the normal clubs drink on an average cost 1 k per cocktail or a shot. I just had a cocktail in each of the clubs we entered, and my friend took a B52 shot.

Over all a fun trip, will be back to only SPB in summer of 2025.

[QUOTE=Putologist;2863996]So here a update my Russian friend -who lives in Piter- sent me recently: it's about level of organization and reliability by the management of the main salons in town. Its not even the main, to be fair let's say they are some of the main saloni. Ok so, here 1 means bad and 5 means excellent: Goroxovaya 46:1 (they have many girls, so this may be a reason why there are some chaos there from time to time. But it's also fair to say that girls here are among the friendliest in the Piterburshie salonisphere), ya vam dam: 2 (lack of professionalism but their price is unbeatable), Goroxovaya 3: 3 (does not open everyday), Sweets Nevsky 108:3/2 (the problem here is the internal drama going on, for example they have a Lesbian 'Administrator', which for some mongers is a turn off), Pride: 4 (but they have less girls, so it's easier to organize/schedule), FrauM: 5 (very professional staff, friendly girls). About Indies, it's difficult to generalize, but he would put most of them in the level 2 (a big problem among many indies are the fake photos, the girls exist, but the pics are either old or photoshoped. For comparison: most salons don't fake photos, because the girls themselves don't upload photos, who does it is the salon's IT guy / webmaster / whoever is in charge of the website) for prices under 10 k and level 3 for prices above 10 k.

Now a story my local source (Russian monger) told me recently. He said that a WG who works in one of the salons above became quite intimate with him (meaning, she became a friend), and she told him all the weird stories she saw. For example, one of her regular clients, a married obese guy who is not even that old, maybe mid 30 ies, comes to her regularly and bring some vibrators or dildos. He "fucks" her with the vibrator. He gets excited when she gets exited from this game, that's his kick. And of course she plays along. He himself never penetrated her nor the other girls in the salon. "-A perfect client" that's what she said.[/QUOTE]Sir how can I contact the solons you mentioned?

First time in Russia, might try to pop into these two.

Can anyone give me a wee bit more info on how this works? I assume just apt brothels like Rio?

Is there a flat to ring, or number to call to be let in?

Or do I just show up and look at the outside of the apartment building longingly, with an erection, while counting the bills from my wallet in public?

Pricing and tip?

Appreciate it.

Wanted to take a break from the pubs and cocktails bars and check out a strip club w / Thai GF.

Hoping to see some blondies with carpet that match the drapes. (even tho most shave these days).

Did my research here, and other sites before going as so many scams in EU.

- Golden Dolls apparently closed?

- Virgins. But they said not full nude and wanted 5,000 entry (not consumable), the girls at the door had serious acne problems compounded with wall plaster on their face.

- Chicago wanted 2 k each. But not full nude either, just topless.

- Zavist Podium (Nevsky pr. , 80). Was the most recommended. Went first at 11 pm and it was dead, no customers and about 15 girls. So we left. On the way out some guy working there started to pressure us to let him take us to one of his other bars (Zavist has a number of bars) and treated us basically like idiots. Anyway, said we'd be back later when more customers.

Came back at 12:30 am and they said they had customers now (we didn't see any) - once inside the first section the girl said it would be 10,000 for my GF and 5,000 for me (not consumable). So zipped back up my coat and had a good laugh at her expense.

Meh, to strip bars in Piter. I don't mind paying a small fee - 2,000 or even more if it's consumable. But not paying $178.00 USD to just get in the door. (dang).

Even just me. Not paying $55 USD to get into a strip bar.

Will be back in Bangkok in a few weeks, Think can wait till then. Can see nude girls for the price of a beer.

I have just returned from a week in Saint Petersburg, Russia. I am white American 185 cm 90 kilo full head of grey hair.

I arrived at my apartment at 1:30 am Wednesday March 19,2025. It was very small but very nice. It was in the center very close to the Anichkov Bridge.

I went online and ordered a girl. I cannot find the details at this time. I found her on a Telegram channel. Her name was Mia and she was a beautiful brunette. 26 years old. She spent an hour with me from 2:30 am to 3:30 am. I paid her 20,000 rubles. She would not allow me to kiss her face or lips. She would not allow me to lick her vulva or insert a finger into her vagina. She would not suck my penis without a condom. She would allow me to have sex with her with a condom. I personally cannot have intercourse with a condom because it is too uncomfortable and of course sex workers nearly always insist on one. I feel that the money was wasted.

On Thursday evening I walked into the Podium Club.

[URL]https://podium-club.ru/[/URL]

I asked if I could pay a girl to suck my penis with no condom. The girl laughed and said no sex is allowed, however I could pay for a nude girl to give me a massage in a private room. A young man who was standing nearby suggested that I go to the Hefner Club.

[URL]https://hefner-clubs.ru/en/hefner[/URL]

Where sex is offered.

On Friday I ordered another girl.

[URL]https://all.dosugbarspb.com/prostitutki/kamila-4412.html[/URL]

I paid her 20,000 rubles for two hours. She arrived at 5:00 pm Friday. First of all she appeared to be 29 not 19 and also heavier. Secondly she really seemed uninterested in me. Thirdly she refused to suck my penis without a condom even though her advertisement said that she would. She called her manager and I think they were trying to force her to do uncovered blowjobs, however she really didn't want to. I told her that she may leave and keep the money. She was very grateful to me. I felt sorry for her.

At 9:45 pm Saturday I had a beautiful, busty 18 year old brunette called Natalia in my apartment. I found her on [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL].

I paid her 30,000 rubles for two hours which included blowjob without a condom, kissing with tongue and cunnilingus. However there was almost no passion. She was a nice sweet normal Russian college girl from some small city somewhere and this was her job which she started 4 months ago, I guess when she started college. But she didn't like it. She doesn't enjoy sex with random strangers. She wants a boyfriend. Other than maybe a few minutes here and there she didn't become aroused sexually. We chatted a little bit. I told her that she is gorgeous, I will never forget her and I wish her all the best.

On Sunday I called Lilly [URL]https://fraum.net/gallery/564/[/URL].

She was advertised as a 20 year old real blonde. She arrived at 10:00 pm on Sunday. I paid her 40,000 rubles for two hours.

First of all she was blonde however she had very obvious black roots. Also she had many piercings and tattoos not shown in her photos. Also she was 25. However she was very passionate and she enjoyed the sex.

At 1:00 am Monday morning I decided to try a blonde bombshell from an apparently elite website.

[URL]https://b.devochki-v-spb.ru/lena-individualka-na-dom[/URL]

I agreed to pay 55,000 for two hours with Lena. I thought that this must be good since I am paying so much.

At 1:30 am a driver appeared with two girls. I can choose one. Or take both but I assume pay double. Both were not Lena. I chose a slim young woman with long hair and a little blonde hair coloring. She would do a blow job without a condom. She would allow vaginal intercourse with a condom. She would not allow me to kiss her face or lips or touch her vulva with my hand. After an hour I told her that she can leave and keep the entire 55,000 rubles. She was very grateful and thanked me. She also told me that I had the perfect penis. Just the right size and thickness. I think that she liked sucking it. It's about 15 or 17 cm with the help of Cialis and a pretty girl sucking it. This was a compliment coming from someone with obvious great experience. And when I told her that she can leave early she said "What? No sex?" I think she was disappointed.

Monday at 6:00 pm I went back to [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] At least their photos are accurate. I asked for Paulina who arrived at 8:30 pm and stayed until 1:00 am Tuesday. I paid her 90,000 rubles for four and a half hours. She allowed everything except intercourse without a condom. However for some weird reason about every half hour she would spray my hands with hand sanitizer. She is 20 years old and goes to university. She is from Astrakan. She had no father in her life. She is a perfect slim blonde with her natural golden blonde hair hanging down her back to her waist. She is a size A cup. I am attaching her profile photos however they barely do her justice. Her face is very cute and girlish. Also I recall her hair as being quite a bit more blonde than in these photos and NATURALLY REAL blonde.

I spent a lot of time massaging her vulva and pushing my finger into her vagina. While doing it she might suck my penis or I might suck her breasts. She orgasmed 5 times. She said I have a magic finger. She has been doing sex work for two years. She loves sex. She loves a big hard penis. She loves a man ejaculating into her mouth and on her face. When I did it she started clapping and cheering. She is basically a Russian speaking Lily Phillips. The big difference is obviously the cost. I think that for the equivalent of 90,000 rubles in pounds sterling Lily Phillips might video chat with me for ten minutes.

Bottom line, for all the time and trouble I did end up having one night of absolutely unbelievable sex. However, personally, I think in the future I would go to Medellin instead. I believe that in the erotic massage spas there I would have much more and much better sex for the same cost.

Also I never before experienced this system of extra charges for every additional activity. In my experience sex with a sex worker means you pay per hour for sex which is just like any other people having sex, except for the condom generally being required during intercourse. Really, what's next? "Here's my contract with you. To touch my butt, that is an extra $30. To squeeze my butt is an additional $50. To kiss my breast is $75. But that is just one breast. If you want to kiss both that is $100, etc etc" going over every inch of her anatomy. Why not?

Incidentally, NordVPN didn't work on my phone or laptop in Russia however I had no problem accessing the sex worker websites in any case.

There are reviews here of salons in Saint Petersburg by men living there.

[URL]https://amurside.com/index.php?showforum=255[/URL]

They even have reviews of one the girls I met, Natalia from Velvet Hub.

[URL]https://amurside.com/index.php?showtopic=125223[/URL]

It sounds as if what I saw is the way it is. I actually apparently hit the jackpot when I met Paulina from Velvet Hub. Although I spent $1,000 it was for me a once in a lifetime experience well worth every penny, God bless her.

And again I can't get over this practice of every little bit of the anatomy being sold separately. If you have some kind of unusual kink I could see an additional fee for the girl who is going to go over and beyond what a normal girlfriend would do, but to me sex work means renting a girlfriend by the hour period. It's all or nothing. Is this a new Russian invention? It's no wonder they have an aging and dying population if this is how women over there feel about sex.

Incidentally almost no one spoke a word of English which surprised me a little. Until COVID lockdown began five years ago, that neighborhood had been a hub of massive international tourism every summer. If I have to have another conversation with someone through Google translate I am going to smash my phone over his head.

About Americans going through passport control into Russia, this is what happened to me: I happen to have dual American and Israeli citizenship. Israelis have visa free travel to Russia. Israel is considered to be a friendly nation. However my passport states place of birth USA. So I arrived at passport control in Saint Petersburg. The woman, a pretty young woman in military uniform who looks like she can chew nails, stared at my passport, stared at me. This continued for about 5 minutes. Then she said "Tourist?" I said "Yes". She said "Welcome" and let me into Russia.

No one I met seemed bothered by me being an American.

About flights to Petersburg. I flew Azerbaijan Airlines Tel Aviv to Baku to Petersburg.

What I still didn't like is the need to carry in physically all the cash you may need during your trip because your foreign bank card will not work. I am not so comfortable having a few thousand bucks in my pocket. And if somehow you lose that cash, how are you going to pay for your next meal or your taxi to get back to the airport (1300 rubles)? Stand on a street corner with a cup and beg for change? But it worked out OK. No pickpockets, robberies or burglaries.

However for lodging I was able to rent an apartment through [URL]https://www.zenhotels.com/[/URL] paying with my non-Russian debit card before leaving. Everything went very smoothly with that.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2992804]There are reviews here of salons in Saint Petersburg by men living there.

[URL]https://amurside.com/index.php?showforum=255[/URL]

They even have reviews of one the girls I met, Natalia from Velvet Hub.

[URL]https://amurside.com/index.php?showtopic=125223[/URL]

It sounds as if what I saw is the way it is. I actually apparently hit the jackpot when I met Paulina from Velvet Hub. Although I spent $1,000 it was for me a once in a lifetime experience well worth every penny, God bless her.

And again I can't get over this practice of every little bit of the anatomy being sold separately. If you have some kind of unusual kink I could see an additional fee for the girl who is going to go over and beyond what a normal girlfriend would do, but to me sex work means renting a girlfriend by the hour period. It's all or nothing. Is this a new Russian invention? It's no wonder they have an aging and dying population if this is how women over there feel about sex.

Incidentally almost no one spoke a word of English which surprised me a little. Until COVID lockdown began five years ago, that neighborhood had been a hub of massive international tourism every summer. If I have to have another conversation with someone through Google translate I am going to smash my phone over his head.

About Americans going through passport control into Russia, this is what happened to me: I happen to have dual American and Israeli citizenship. Israelis have visa free travel to Russia. Israel is considered to be a friendly nation. However my passport states place of birth USA. So I arrived at passport control in Saint Petersburg. The woman, a pretty young woman in military uniform who looks like she can chew nails, stared at my passport, stared at me. This continued for about 5 minutes. Then she said "Tourist?" I said "Yes". She said "Welcome" and let me into Russia.

No one I met seemed bothered by me being an American.

About flights to Petersburg. I flew Azerbaijan Airlines Tel Aviv to Baku to Petersburg.

What I still didn't like is the need to carry in physically all the cash you may need during your trip because your foreign bank card will not work. I am not so comfortable having a few thousand bucks in my pocket. And if somehow you lose that cash, how are you going to pay for your next meal or your taxi to get back to the airport (1300 rubles)? Stand on a street corner with a cup and beg for change? But it worked out OK. No pickpockets, robberies or burglaries.

However for lodging I was able to rent an apartment through [URL]https://www.zenhotels.com/[/URL] paying with my non-Russian debit card before leaving. Everything went very smoothly with that.[/QUOTE]Did you go to any Salons?

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2992741]However, personally, I think in the future I would go to Medellin instead. I believe that in the erotic massage spas there I would have much more and much better sex for the same cost.[/QUOTE]Maybe try Moscow next time. IMHO Peter is great for sightseeing, but Moscow is better for mongering. The prices are higher, but if you invest some time and effort, quality is almost guaranteed.

[QUOTE=EnterTheV;2993439]Did you go to any Salons?[/QUOTE]I didn't actually go anywhere. I got lazy and only did outcall. However the impression I get is that there are two kinds of salons. One "salon" is a combination brothel / escort agency and I used those. Velvet Hub is this kind of salon. They have incall / outcall and the new love of my life Paulina works there. Then there is another kind of "salon", only incall, which is less expensive where some sort of "erotic massage" is offered but they are kind of cautious about details. I didn't visit those.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2993640]Maybe try Moscow next time. IMHO Peter is great for sightseeing, but Moscow is better for mongering. The prices are higher, but if you invest some time and effort, quality is almost guaranteed.[/QUOTE]I am suspecting that, at least for me because I am fairly picky, I am not just looking for a hole, Prague might be better than Petersburg or Moscow. I might give it a try.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2993956]I am suspecting that, at least for me because I am fairly picky, I am not just looking for a hole, Prague might be better than Petersburg or Moscow. I might give it a try.[/QUOTE]If I was just looking for a hole, I would just go to Cambodia or Laos to get it for like 10 $.

If you know Russian language and have a decent budget, only sky is the limit.

Nothing against Prague, but I wouldn't even put it in the same sentence with Moscow.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2994309]If I was just looking for a hole, I would just go to Cambodia or Laos to get it for like 10 $.

If you know Russian language and have a decent budget, only sky is the limit.

Nothing against Prague, but I wouldn't even put it in the same sentence with Moscow.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to be sarcastic. What I meant by that comment is that if someone just wants to stick his covered penis into the vagina of a pretty girl you can easily do that in Saint Petersburg for 4500 rubles and that's fine if that makes you happy. However I am interested in a real "girl friend experience" and that will cost at least 20 k per hour if you can even find it. I'm not sure Prague is more expensive plus there is more English there, my bank card works, etc.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2994377]I didn't mean to be sarcastic. What I meant by that comment is that if someone just wants to stick his covered penis into the vagina of a pretty girl you can easily do that in Saint Petersburg for 4500 rubles and that's fine if that makes you happy. However I am interested in a real "girl friend experience" and that will cost at least 20 k per hour if you can even find it. I'm not sure Prague is more expensive plus there is more English there, my bank card works, etc.[/QUOTE]4500 rubles in Saint Petersburg in 2025 what you can find is ugly fat girls or middle Asian girls.

[QUOTE=AntonySun1996;2994309]If I was just looking for a hole, I would just go to Cambodia or Laos to get it for like 10 $.

If you know Russian language and have a decent budget, only sky is the limit.

Nothing against Prague, but I wouldn't even put it in the same sentence with Moscow.[/QUOTE]I have some Moscow experiences exchange, consider moscow choices are much more than SPB. How is your Russian level? Check your inbox mail and private messages and reply

[QUOTE=HappyMimiore;2994411]4500 rubles in Saint Petersburg in 2025 what you can find is ugly fat girls or middle Asian girls.[/QUOTE]No not true. Go here [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] 30 minute incall with a beautiful white teenager. 4500 rubles. Is is going to be very passionate or romantic? Probably not. Just put on your condom, penetrate her vagina, that's about it.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2994578]No not true. Go here [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] 30 minute incall with a beautiful white teenager. 4500 rubles. Is is going to be very passionate or romantic? Probably not. Just put on your condom, penetrate her vagina, that's about it.[/QUOTE]You are right, I forgot about the 30-minute express. But I rarely choose express in St. Petersburg. The only time was when the subway station was closed and I was 15 minutes late for the girl who was scheduled for an hour. I was forced to do the express. That was the summer of 2024, the predecessor of the VELVET you mentioned. The girl now changed her name to Madlena, with erect breasts and a decent attitude.

If you're willing to share, how did you get in and out of Russia exactly? As an American you need a visa and I've been enough to know you need an invitation letter as a prerequisite. Did you cross by land or air? Ever had any issues with immigration control. With all the negative dress about detaining random Americans I'm surprised anyone would go but I'd go in a heartbeat if I wasn't worried about my safety and / or ability to leave when I want.

[QUOTE=TexasPistol;2992741]I have just returned from a week in Saint Petersburg, Russia. I am white American 185 cm 90 kilo full head of grey hair.

I arrived at my apartment at 1:30 am Wednesday March 19,2025. It was very small but very nice. It was in the center very close to the Anichkov Bridge.

I went online and ordered a girl. I cannot find the details at this time. I found her on a Telegram channel. Her name was Mia and she was a beautiful brunette. 26 years old. She spent an hour with me from 2:30 am to 3:30 am. I paid her 20,000 rubles. She would not allow me to kiss her face or lips. She would not allow me to lick her vulva or insert a finger into her vagina. She would not suck my penis without a condom. She would allow me to have sex with her with a condom. I personally cannot have intercourse with a condom because it is too uncomfortable and of course sex workers nearly always insist on one. I feel that the money was wasted.

On Thursday evening I walked into the Podium Club.

[URL]https://podium-club.ru/[/URL]

I asked if I could pay a girl to suck my penis with no condom. The girl laughed and said no sex is allowed, however I could pay for a nude girl to give me a massage in a private room. A young man who was standing nearby suggested that I go to the Hefner Club.

[URL]https://hefner-clubs.ru/en/hefner[/URL]

Where sex is offered.

On Friday I ordered another girl.

[URL]https://all.dosugbarspb.com/prostitutki/kamila-4412.html[/URL]

I paid her 20,000 rubles for two hours. She arrived at 5:00 pm Friday. First of all she appeared to be 29 not 19 and also heavier. Secondly she really seemed uninterested in me. Thirdly she refused to suck my penis without a condom even though her advertisement said that she would. She called her manager and I think they were trying to force her to do uncovered blowjobs, however she really didn't want to. I told her that she may leave and keep the money. She was very grateful to me. I felt sorry for her.

At 9:45 pm Saturday I had a beautiful, busty 18 year old brunette called Natalia in my apartment. I found her on [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL].

I paid her 30,000 rubles for two hours which included blowjob without a condom, kissing with tongue and cunnilingus. However there was almost no passion. She was a nice sweet normal Russian college girl from some small city somewhere and this was her job which she started 4 months ago, I guess when she started college. But she didn't like it. She doesn't enjoy sex with random strangers. She wants a boyfriend. Other than maybe a few minutes here and there she didn't become aroused sexually. We chatted a little bit. I told her that she is gorgeous, I will never forget her and I wish her all the best.

On Sunday I called Lilly [URL]https://fraum.net/gallery/564/[/URL].

She was advertised as a 20 year old real blonde. She arrived at 10:00 pm on Sunday. I paid her 40,000 rubles for two hours.

First of all she was blonde however she had very obvious black roots. Also she had many piercings and tattoos not shown in her photos. Also she was 25. However she was very passionate and she enjoyed the sex.

At 1:00 am Monday morning I decided to try a blonde bombshell from an apparently elite website.

[URL]https://b.devochki-v-spb.ru/lena-individualka-na-dom[/URL]

I agreed to pay 55,000 for two hours with Lena. I thought that this must be good since I am paying so much.

At 1:30 am a driver appeared with two girls. I can choose one. Or take both but I assume pay double. Both were not Lena. I chose a slim young woman with long hair and a little blonde hair coloring. She would do a blow job without a condom. She would allow vaginal intercourse with a condom. She would not allow me to kiss her face or lips or touch her vulva with my hand. After an hour I told her that she can leave and keep the entire 55,000 rubles. She was very grateful and thanked me. She also told me that I had the perfect penis. Just the right size and thickness. I think that she liked sucking it. It's about 15 or 17 cm with the help of Cialis and a pretty girl sucking it. This was a compliment coming from someone with obvious great experience. And when I told her that she can leave early she said "What? No sex?" I think she was disappointed.

Monday at 6:00 pm I went back to [URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL] At least their photos are accurate. I asked for Paulina who arrived at 8:30 pm and stayed until 1:00 am Tuesday. I paid her 90,000 rubles for four and a half hours. She allowed everything except intercourse without a condom. However for some weird reason about every half hour she would spray my hands with hand sanitizer. She is 20 years old and goes to university. She is from Astrakan. She had no father in her life. She is a perfect slim blonde with her natural golden blonde hair hanging down her back to her waist. She is a size A cup. I am attaching her profile photos however they barely do her justice. Her face is very cute and girlish. Also I recall her hair as being quite a bit more blonde than in these photos and NATURALLY REAL blonde.

I spent a lot of time massaging her vulva and pushing my finger into her vagina. While doing it she might suck my penis or I might suck her breasts. She orgasmed 5 times. She said I have a magic finger. She has been doing sex work for two years. She loves sex. She loves a big hard penis. She loves a man ejaculating into her mouth and on her face. When I did it she started clapping and cheering. She is basically a Russian speaking Lily Phillips. The big difference is obviously the cost. I think that for the equivalent of 90,000 rubles in pounds sterling Lily Phillips might video chat with me for ten minutes.

Bottom line, for all the time and trouble I did end up having one night of absolutely unbelievable sex. However, personally, I think in the future I would go to Medellin instead. I believe that in the erotic massage spas there I would have much more and much better sex for the same cost.

Also I never before experienced this system of extra charges for every additional activity. In my experience sex with a sex worker means you pay per hour for sex which is just like any other people having sex, except for the condom generally being required during intercourse. Really, what's next? "Here's my contract with you. To touch my butt, that is an extra $30. To squeeze my butt is an additional $50. To kiss my breast is $75. But that is just one breast. If you want to kiss both that is $100, etc etc" going over every inch of her anatomy. Why not?

Incidentally, NordVPN didn't work on my phone or laptop in Russia however I had no problem accessing the sex worker websites in any case.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FilthyBeaver;2994855]If you're willing to share, how did you get in and out of Russia exactly? As an American you need a visa and I've been enough to know you need an invitation letter as a prerequisite. Did you cross by land or air? Ever had any issues with immigration control. With all the negative dress about detaining random Americans I'm surprised anyone would go but I'd go in a heartbeat if I wasn't worried about my safety and / or ability to leave when I want.[/QUOTE]I am a dual US / Israeli citizen. I traveled on my Israeli passport and had visa free travel to Russia however my passport did say place of birth USA. The customs officer stared at my passport for 5 minutes and said "welcome". I didn't encounter any hostility from Russians. I traveled by Azerbaijan Airlines.

Three old salons in St. Petersburg closed in early April.

LADY S, [URL]https://spb-putana.com[/URL]

SWEETS, [URL]https://spb-putana.com[/URL]

Mirage, [URL]https://modeli-spb.club[/URL]

There are many good memories there, pay tribute to them.

The following is the information about the sale of salon apartments, the pictures remind me of every happy moment before, and say goodbye to the golden age of the chain salons in St. Petersburg.

[URL]https://spb.cian.ru/sale/flat/315727122/[/URL]

[URL]https://spb.cian.ru/sale/flat/306661122/[/URL]

For current salon information in Saint Petersburg I recommend checking out this webpage.

[URL]https://amurside.com/index.php?showforum=255[/URL]

I'm personally a fan of.

[URL]https://t.me/velvet_hub[/URL]

Although even there some girls are very young, very new and uncomfortable with sex work. But Paulina is amazing. Not a blonde bombshell. A blonde nuclear bomb.