East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Chillum99]As of 20/4 the spa near the Shin May Union Sq. Mall was open, very nice. Chose a big girl, nice boobs and big round butt (tired of skinny Chinese) almost 90 mins, BBBJ, tongue bath, multi positions. 590 RMB all in, very easy, the man in the lobby knew what I was there for "5" he said. 21/4 day of mourning, checked G18, closed, Shanghai hotel too. My hotel, Central View Suites, not GF, signs posted, is changing ownership to Royal Tulip something. Weak, don't stay there.[/QUOTE]


Sacrosa?

PC out

Just returned from a week's stay at the Hilton. Security is much stricter though low keyed. The is one guy posted very close to the lifts to make sure no causal visitors can go upstairs. My guess is mongering will have to take place elsewhere. Too bad as I like the comfort of my own environs.

I went to G18 yesterday 4/24 around 7pm. Place was closed, lights out, no door man. I walked in the lobby on 1st floor and seemed like they had completely shutdown as it was looking very drabby. Guess the crackdown rumors due to expo are true.

Anyone know if 999 is open?

Pay the man his 20 bucks and some of us might respond in a PM.

[QUOTE=Tomtrffc]I won't put the name here but I think that you can figure it out. I am wondering if this sauna is open for business or closed for start of expo.

Name of sauna is (Steamy Kim Basinger movie minus 3.5 days) x 3

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnThomas0519]Just returned from a week's stay at the Hilton. Security is much stricter though low keyed. The is one guy posted very close to the lifts to make sure no causal visitors can go upstairs. My guess is mongering will have to take place elsewhere. Too bad as I like the comfort of my own environs.[/QUOTE]I had no problems coming in last night about 3:30 am. No security to be seen.

Could get tougher starting Tuesday. The China government booked the top three floors of the hotel for a week, for high up officials to come see the Expo.

They have metal detectors and xray machines in the lobby. Not in use yet, but I assume by Tuesday they will B.

I'm leaving Wednesday.

Just come back from a week's stay at Hilton in Shanghai with my Thai gf to escape Songran. Limited chances for mongering because of gf, but one night walked around to Shanghai Hotel sauna but was closed for "equipment check". All corridor lights outside lift were off as well, suspect closed for EXPO.

Opposite Hilton are a couple of girly bars with Chinese ladies inside selling expensive drinks ! Better was a massage shop next, with big pink sign. Had a 2 hour oil massage, no problem in getting HJ too. She didn't speak much English except for "special massage " to finish.

One night went to Manhattans, very busy in there after 10:45pm with mostly Viets / Flippers. After 1am, still lots of girls in there, or returning, but very few guys. Buyers market. New Manhattans is just 3 doors down from Bamboo Pot who have a website. Didn't see any freelancers in there, but Chinese waitresses were quite cute.

Compared to Pattaya don't really rate Shanghai as a great mongering destination, and overpriced, Expo or not.

Hi All,

Just been to look for the Amor massage place some of you have mentioned opposite Eton hotel. found 2 places-both claimed to be Amor ! Am I being dumb or are there any distinguishing features for the Amor ? couldn't see the name anywhere
Muchos Grachachas

I recently visited Shanghai for a business trip. It was on a Thursday evening, rather late, around 11 PM, when I arrived a the place where I had some good experience in the past (I will provide the name of the place to Senior Members (only) who PM me - this is for protection of the place...- and ultimately of ourselves).

When I arrived, there was not too much action, but soon I noticed that the place is in full swing. It is with sauna, the lockers and all the things around. However, after the shower, I went straight to the "relax room". I was not allowed ;-) to relax, tough. But I was guided to the fish bowl window instead. Three beauties were waiting. I chose one (number will be provided to Senior Members only, when you PM me) with nice rack, very nice face and good body.

In the room, then it turned out that these were some of the most beautiful tits I have seen so far in China (and I have seen a few... ;-) ). She is not totally slim, but has a good and firm body and - dream tits. She gave me first an intensive cat bath, rubbed my back and my front with her tits. Then, she moved to a really great BBBJ. She did it very softly, with no teeth and no hands. Normally, I can't come with a BJ, but this time, I was close to. So, I had to stop her and change to giving her DATY. Then, we did it mish and changes later to doggy. I was already a bit tired and close to coming, so I did not last for too long, until I came with a great explosion.

After that, we cuddled around and held each other - almost like lovers, until the time was completely over.

Conclusions:

Wonderful tits
Nice face
Good, strong body
Good attitude
Excellent BBBJ
Good sex
Damage acceptable

Enjoy! Wonderer.
Return risk high

I addressed a european friend to a couple of saunas in Shangai as they wanted to experience them.

Both venues quite known and popular on ISG, So kind of proofed locations.

Quite newbies in the art of mongering or, let's say not smart and skilled (we are all at the beginning, then you elaborate and get better!) he went to the first place in Puxi with 3-4 other guys.

They clearly made understood what they were looking for at reception. Turned away being told "we only do foot massage".

LMAO.

Most likely the management does not want to have troubles with newbies and does not want to deal with the foreigners mentality.

Then they went to a Pudong sauna where they could find and get all what they wanted. Probably the place is more used to unexperienced western guys and can handle the situation.

Say what you say, but mongering has rules and regulations, and, above all, requires certain attitude.

Any in Shanghai right now know about the Expo ticket info, I see on the news is very crowded on first day, I will be there in July hope there are less people.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Any in Shanghai right now know about the Expo ticket info, I see on the news is very crowded on first day, I will be there in June hope tehre are less people.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE][url]http://en.expo2010.cn/expotickets/index.htm[/url]

Saturday is sold out.

Went to G18 yesterday at 3PM

Definetly closed.

So moved to Sacrosa. Got the girl 560. Good massage, BJ, FS.

Total: 550 RMB

Shanghai authorities added two days vacation for all Shanghai workers. April 30 and May 4. May 1/2/3 were already vacation days. If your car does not have a Shanghai tag you most likely will not be allowed into the city. As the newness wears off the crowds will slack off. Check the website for daily activities. Oh and if you were born before 1950 you can get a reduced ticket.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Any in Shanghai right now know about the Expo ticket info, I see on the news is very crowded on first day, I will be there in June hope tehre are less people.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chickenloved]Hi All,

Just been to look for the Amor massage place some of you have mentioned opposite Eton hotel. found 2 places-both claimed to be Amor ! Am I being dumb or are there any distinguishing features for the Amor ? couldn't see the name anywhere
Muchos Grachachas[/QUOTE]

Amor massage is clearly named in English, it is directly opposite the North door of Eton Hotel, but the strip of shops is actually perpendicular to the side of the Hotel.
fz
(Grachachas?)

Thanks Fz,

You are most kind and hey.

I'm illiterate in more than one language!

Yo guys,

Yes, can confirm: G18 and 999 closed.

Shanghai hotel and Sacosa are open (last exp Tuesday April 27th).

Nr 30 in Shanghai hotel does very good BJ!

Be carefull since downtown lot of police and security on streets & in 5*hotels

Take care and watch out during Expo days!

[QUOTE=Waldeck2 If your car does not have a Shanghai tag you most likely will not be allowed into the city. [/QUOTE]

Since last week, Shanghai has the benefit of a security check on main feeder roads. You can skip this by displaying your Expo "fasttrack" sticker, issued free at all police stations after examination of your vehicle and personal credentials!
I do not believe they can refuse entry to the city for non SH vehicles, the traffic flow would block immediately. Recently, at any sign of traffic build up, the Shanghai toll gates are thrown open!

fz

City raises security bar - but clubs not targeted
(04.29.2010)
Despite widespread rumors, Shanghai police yesterday reassured the city's resident and visiting night owls that legal bars and clubs were not facing mass closures or raids as part of a World Expo security initiative in the city.

However, officers said expats and tourists should carry valid IDs, such as passports, to fast-track planned police night patrol checks during the six months of the Expo.

"We are not going to check everyone," senior police officer Zhu Liang told Shanghai Daily yesterday. "We only check people we find acting suspiciously."

The Shanghai Public Security Bureau issued the nightlife clarification after a number of online expat community forums posted notices saying many more pubs and night clubs would be closed as authorities tightened security during the World Expo.

The Shelter, one of the city's most well-known bars in Changning District's Xinfu Road, was reported to be closed indefinitely over the weekend.

"We were told to close over safety concerns," Gary Wang, owner of The Shelter, said yesterday.

He was told it was an Expo issue and "we should be cooperative."

Officials with the Shanghai Industrial and Commercial Administrative Bureau said they were investigating illegal facilities as many pubs in the city were unlicensed.

Wang said he did not know the exact reason for the closure as all relevant paperwork was in order and the bar was not too noisy at night.

"We've been operating the bar for two years and I don't think that would be possible if we had been illegal," he said.

The closure of The Shelter has caused an online uproar.

"Why would they close the only venue that represents urban music and culture in Shanghai?" asked irate Netizen "milan j" on smartshanghai.com.

"Welcome to better city, boring life," said Netizen "enron666."

"We have beefed up the level and frequency of daily patrols but bars have not been specifically targeted in the operation," police officer Zhu said.

Not all bars in Changning were asked to close.

John Nguidjol, marketing director of the Anar, said it was business as usual for his venue during the Expo period "with no extra requirements."

"There were some checks at my venue but were all regular ones," Nguidjol said.

He said similar closures had happened during the 2008 Beijing Olympics.

Yuyintang, another popular bar featuring live music, was reportedly closed last week for being deigned too small to hold big shows after a sudden raid. However, the bar reopened on Tuesday.

Visiting SH for business unrelated to the Expo. What a bummer. For one thing, the famous BJ bar that must have provided over a million orgasms to horny guys with thousands of gallons of sperm emptied into the hungry mouths of lovely angels is now only offering non sexual massage. The KTV bar at my hotel was completely empty. I did find a massage place on Fuming Lu where a cute little thing gave me a delightful anal and prostate massage causing my frustrated bursting organ to explode in her cute face. Aside from this, my trip was a disappointment.

First time visitor to shanghai. Will be there towards the end of May. Any suggestions would be more than welcome, planning to stay in Xujiahui

Thank you.

How about the TRL area - Manhattans, Malones, Judys.

Closed or more police around these days?

[QUOTE=Hyunjin]Went to G18 yesterday at 3PM

Definetly closed.

So moved to Sacrosa. Got the girl 560. Good massage, BJ, FS.

Total: 550 RMB[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Atlantic Duke]First time visitor to shanghai. Will be there towards the end of May. Any suggestions would be more than welcome, planning to stay in Xujiahui

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

First suggestion is to RTFF

Second suggestion is to RTFF

Third and all subsequent suggestions is to RTFF



ES

Dear ES,

Before I even posted I took the time to read through the forum.

However there were two things in particular that made me post.

1) the recent security changes due to the expo and...

2) the references to some locations seem vague to me as I do not know Shanghai at all.

I was hoping for a little bit of guidance or a suggestion (even offline) from the good members of the board.

Not just a simple RTFF

[QUOTE=Eaglestar]First suggestion is to RTFF

Second suggestion is to RTFF

Third and all subsequent suggestions is to RTFF



ES[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Atlantic Duke]First time visitor to shanghai. Will be there towards the end of May. Any suggestions would be more than welcome, planning to stay in Xujiahui

Thank you.[/QUOTE]There is always a 4th option: RTFF

It's obvious to some of us that RTTF does not mean what it refers to.

Look at some of my earlier posts and pay the man his 20 bucks. You can't receive I'm's. And there is a search function. It's about as easy to get laid in Shanghai as it is to learn the search function. Jeeeeeez! [QUOTE=Atlantic Duke]Dear ES,

Before I even posted I took the time to read through the forum.

However there were two things in particular that made me post.

1) The recent security changes due to the expo and.

2) The references to some locations seem vague to me as I do not know Shanghai at all.

I was hoping for a little bit of guidance or a suggestion (even offline) from the good members of the board.

Not just a simple RTFF[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Atlantic Duke]Dear ES,

Before I even posted I took the time to read through the forum.

However there were two things in particular that made me post.

1) the recent security changes due to the expo and...

2) the references to some locations seem vague to me as I do not know Shanghai at all.

I was hoping for a little bit of guidance or a suggestion (even offline) from the good members of the board.

Not just a simple RTFF[/QUOTE]In former times, there were some "pleasure tour" guides offereing their services (in the "Classified Ads" section), haven't heart from them in a while. Dragon D, are you still aorund? This sounds like a veritable business for you.

Atlantic Duke, if you find the locations vague, you probably should use the search function, for me another proof that you haven't done your homework properly.

"A little bit of guidance or a suggestion" ... well, there are plenty of them here.

Levitian

Hello dear brothers,

I will be in Shanghai from 05th to 10th may. Maybe someone want to go out for a beer and explore the options during expotime?

Please pm me.

Greetings

Thomas jefferson

If we do register a girl in order for her to come ot the room, does it mean the name of the girl will appear on the Hotel Bill at the check out ? Or is it only kept for police audit?

IS the registration also apply to Serviced Hotel's appartment like they are a few in Shanghai?

Thanks for your answer

[QUOTE=Atlantic Duke]Dear ES,

Before I even posted I took the time to read through the forum.

However there were two things in particular that made me post.

1) the recent security changes due to the expo and...

2) the references to some locations seem vague to me as I do not know Shanghai at all.

I was hoping for a little bit of guidance or a suggestion (even offline) from the good members of the board.

Not just a simple RTFF[/QUOTE]
To Atlantic Duke AND to all newcomers to ISG/the China boards/Shanghai expo visitor etc.

Please allow me to direct you to our resident China expert Sammy T's post on what you need to do/what the China boards regular contributors expects as far as questions etc are concerned. Please at least read this!

[post]932174[/post]


Just a suggestion

SEAJ

[QUOTE=C Ccaspal]If we do register a girl in order for her to come ot the room, does it mean the name of the girl will appear on the Hotel Bill at the check out ? Or is it only kept for police audit?

IS the registration also apply to Serviced Hotel's appartment like they are a few in Shanghai?

Thanks for your answer[/QUOTE]

The name of a registered guest will never appear on the Hotel Bill.

But in the case that you do an initial reservation/registration for two persons, then there is a probability that both names appearing as a booking reference.

The registration for guests apply for Service Hotel's appartments as well - as a requirement by law, but I never experienced a case in which it has been executed (in Shanghai).

Billy was in Shanghai April 26 to April 30 - due to increased hotel rates for Expo did not stay in normal 5 star hotel on Nanjing Lu but opted for 4 star right beside it.

Visited Manhattan every night - abundance of Viets and Pilipinos - quality VERY ordinary. Sorted the wheat from the chaff each night and took a girl back to hotel without a question each night - SH looked no different to me this visit as any previous visit.

Manhattan was wall to wall w.hores every night - went to Judys first night - 6 yo 8 w.hores there - Malones had 1 table of over weight Filipinos - did not stay for a drink in either.

Zapatas jam paxcked on ladies night (Wed night) - better to go there when weather bit warmer so civilians play outside and allow more room for w.hores and mongers to mingle inside.

Visited 3 differant places and all were open. Somewhat paranoia but nothing too bad. One on Wuning Lu had some very nice talent for 638rmb.

PC out

Hi all,

Gooday! I just arrive in shanghai for the expo. I think we (Aussie) have one of the best display and concept! Bravo, we are down under but up above in many things. I am staying in Le meridien at Nanjing walking st. (with wife)and wonder if they are places that I can go for a quickie. I saw a few massage places along the road behind (hankou) with some nice young thing. Please advise if anyone have try these places.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=JohnLeeAussie]Hi all,

Gooday! I just arrive in shanghai for the expo. I think we (Aussie) have one of the best display and concept! Bravo, we are down under but up above in many things. I am staying in Le meridien at Nanjing walking st. (with wife)and wonder if they are places that I can go for a quickie. I saw a few massage places along the road behind (hankou) with some nice young thing. Please advise if anyone have try these places.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

John,

BEst to take a shot at these places and then report your findings here. Your willingness to share info will appear sincere and I think you will find the senior members of this board will help you out more.

PC out

I'll be making my first trip to Shanghai the last week of June and am looking for some hotel recommendations, preferably something under $125. City Hotel, Shanghai Hotel, and Golden Tulip appear to be possibilities.

Although I'm going there primarily for the Expo I'd also like to get some mongering in. I've seen clubs mentioned like Malone's, Manhattan, and Judy's. However, I understand that there have been recent crackdowns due to the Expo opening. Any recent info would be greatly appreciated including prices for the girls in these clubs.

Also, are most hotels girlfriendly?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Boadly]I'll be making my first trip to Shanghai the last week of June and am looking for some hotel recommendations, preferably something under $125. City Hotel, Shanghai Hotel, and Golden Tulip appear to be possibilities.

Although I'm going there primarily for the Expo I'd also like to get some mongering in. I've seen clubs mentioned like Malone's, Manhattan, and Judy's. However, I understand that there have been recent crackdowns due to the Expo opening. Any recent info would be greatly appreciated including prices for the girls in these clubs.

Also, are most hotels girlfriendly?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
Boadly - you joined ISG in 2002 and you have 4 reports - no.... 4 posts!! Asking for information.

Not one report, not one!

Please read my post below [post]1016278[/post]

SEAJ

Am I the only one here who finds the small band of trigger-happy "RTFF" responders more annoying than the actual lazy and/or simple-minded posters that they're addressing?

[QUOTE=Boadly]
Although I'm going there primarily for the Expo I'd also like to get some mongering in.[/QUOTE]

Easy.

Just head over to Thai pavilion and ask one of their representatives:

"How much for love me long time?"

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Boadly. You joined ISG in 2002 and you have 4 reports. No. 4 posts! Asking for information.

Not one report, not one!

Please read my post below [post]1016278[/post]

SEAJ[/QUOTE]HOT DAMN! The sheriff is back in town and all is right with the world tonight!

Boadly,

I know it is an imposition, but it is generally considered in poor taste to be a relative "newbie" on this or any other message board and ask such a "broad question". As a rule, the people that get the best responses are those who have shown an interest in the subject matter and taken their own time to research the material afforded them by this (or any other) message board and then having displayed that research by asking specific questions about the specific location that maybe wasn't covered in recent, easily available postings. The other option is to have shown that you are also a contributor in other areas and are exploring new, unfamiliar territory and would like some guidance by some of the local experts.

As you can see by the responses to your request you have fulfilled neither of these criteria. It is just a suggestion, but if I were in your predicament I would take some time to read this forum. You might be surprised to find that for good reason you may need to dig a little deeper than usual due to the sensitivities in place at this time. If, after you have done the above you can then ask for assistance if a manner that shows you understand the mores of the local customs. Of course showing your willingness to contribute a little by paying the fee to "join" might also help, but this is purely your option.

I hope that you find what you seek, and enjoy the journey. Just please don't overpay and ruin for everyone who has to follow.

Okay I feel much better now.

I know that many hard dicks will be coming to Shanghai for Expo. So be it. If you have not read the fucking form, don't ask for shit. We will know if you have by your uninformed questions. If you haven't paid the $20 buck joining fee. Go jerk off. I've tried to send I'm's to some and they had not paid the fee. Any of us who have been in Shanghai for more than a long weekend know we can get fucked. Well fucked. In Shanghai. Will I or any other senior Member be of any assistance? I won't, others may. I'm done, I'm finished. Go jerk off in some other city than Shanghai!

[QUOTE=C Ccaspal]If we do register a girl in order for her to come ot the room, does it mean the name of the girl will appear on the Hotel Bill at the check out ? Or is it only kept for police audit?

IS the registration also apply to Serviced Hotel's appartment like they are a few in Shanghai?

Thanks for your answer[/QUOTE]I never had the girl's name appear on my bill nor any reference that we were 2. When booking they never ask you the name of the second guest.

Hi folks

Our favourite (at least mine) is open again. But they play it low, means all the lights from outside are off. Even the groundfloor is dark. But in 5th floor it is everything as allways.

I had a lineup of 8 girls, at 23. 00h in today evening. Allways nice to see the curtain rise and smiling gils will apear in the fishbowl. I chose no. 2.

When we had our shower a second girl came in, as usual. She was free for the shower and gave me a short BBBJ. I sent her out after shower. No regret, no. 2 (xiao xue) was great. Service as described many times in this forum.

Price did not change. The told me, it will stay open from now one, raids are over since expo started, but they have to open in a low level, no ads etc.

Regulares will know with sauna in puxi I mean. I will keep it low, too.

If you have no idea which sauna it is, pm me. Newbies with no reports will not get answers.

Thanks to pc. For the information, that this sauna was reopened.

I will definately go back this week.

Have fun

Thomas Jefferson

I was worried if I come to shanghai for expo all our favourite places were closed or raided, or both, haha

So, I checked aff (adult friend finder) and was lucky. Contacted one student, 27 years, from shangai, slim, tall ca. 170cm, and hot like hell. She does this "job" around 1-2 times a month, and she really likes sex.

She is not the cheapest in shanghai, asked 1200 rmb for 2-3 hours. We chatted before I come to shanghai by internet and she was in my hotel room as we arranged it.

She stayed 3 hours, no rush, wanted sex all the time, in all positions, and even after 2nd round, when I needed a short break she still did it by herself with her finger. She told me, I can fuck her full 3 hours and come as much as I liked. I was in heaven. But sorry, I am not the youngest guy anymore, so 3 times in 3 hours was really enough.

I allready have a new appointment this weekend with her.

I asked her if I can give out her mobile number to other "friends", which was ok for her, as long as I will not put it in the internet.

Any senior member want to have the number, please contact me by pm.

Any newbies with no record in here, no need to contact me.

Tijuana

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]HOT DAMN! The sheriff is back in town and all is right with the world tonight!

Boadly,

I know it is an imposition, but it is generally considered in poor taste to be a relative "newbie" on this or any other message board and ask such a "broad question". As a rule, the people that get the best responses are those who have shown an interest in the subject matter and taken their own time to research the material afforded them by this (or any other) message board and then having displayed that research by asking specific questions about the specific location that maybe wasn't covered in recent, easily available postings. The other option is to have shown that you are also a contributor in other areas and are exploring new, unfamiliar territory and would like some guidance by some of the local experts.

As you can see by the responses to your request you have fulfilled neither of these criteria. It is just a suggestion, but if I were in your predicament I would take some time to read this forum. You might be surprised to find that for good reason you may need to dig a little deeper than usual due to the sensitivities in place at this time. If, after you have done the above you can then ask for assistance if a manner that shows you understand the mores of the local customs. Of course showing your willingness to contribute a little by paying the fee to "join" might also help, but this is purely your option.

I hope that you find what you seek, and enjoy the journey. Just please don't overpay and ruin for everyone who has to follow.

Okay I feel much better now.[/QUOTE]Damn, didn't think I'd be taken out to the wood shed for asking what I thought were some fairly simple questions. I'm not sure why I should feel guilty about asking for hotel recommendations. I was asking about the clubs I mentioned given that I read there have been crackdowns because of the Expo. Therefore, I didn't know if the older reports I have read would still apply now.

My way of thinking is that people can either ignore the questions or if they feel like helping they can also do that. It's an individual choice. I don't quite understand why people will waste the time and energy to write a post to criticize someone for asking questions, but that's just me. I guess it has something to do with the impersonal nature of the internet. I know I won't be wasting any more energy debating this subject but if anyone can help with any of my questions I would certainly appreciate it.

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]I know that many hard dicks will be coming to Shanghai for Expo. So be it. If you have not read the fucking form, don't ask for shit. We will know if you have by your uninformed questions. If you haven't paid the $20 buck joining fee. Go jerk off. I've tried to send I'm's to some and they had not paid the fee. Any of us who have been in Shanghai for more than a long weekend know we can get fucked. Well fucked. In Shanghai. Will I or any other senior Member be of any assistance? I won't, others may. I'm done, I'm finished. Go jerk off in some other city than Shanghai![/QUOTE]
What's wrong with you ? Had a bad night ?

[QUOTE=Deep Fritz]The name of a registered guest will never appear on the Hotel Bill.[/QUOTE]Never say Never : )

I have had the name of a girl who I registered to stay in my room appear on the hotel bill. If this is a problem for you, simply ask them to remove the name at check out. They will be happy to print you another bill. 10 seconds of embarrassment at the checkout counter can save you a lot of questions at home!

Have Fun!

Sammy

[QUOTE=Boadly]Damn, didn't think I'd be taken out to the wood shed for asking what I thought were some fairly simple questions. I'm not sure why I should feel guilty about asking for hotel recommendations. I was asking about the clubs I mentioned given that I read there have been crackdowns because of the Expo. Therefore, I didn't know if the older reports I have read would still apply now.

My way of thinking is that people can either ignore the questions or if they feel like helping they can also do that. It's an individual choice. I don't quite understand why people will waste the time and energy to write a post to criticize someone for asking questions, but that's just me. I guess it has something to do with the impersonal nature of the internet. I know I won't be wasting any more energy debating this subject but if anyone can help with any of my questions I would certainly appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I know the trip to the woodshed can be a long one.....been there, done that! My response was a slightly tongue-in-cheek attempt to gently suggest that your success rate might be higher with a different mode of operation. I was also continuing a bit a good natured banter with one of the more helpful senior members of the China/S.E. Asia boards. He has been very helpful in the past to many of us when we were newcomers. I agree with your assessment about not bothering if you don't like someone's post. Some of this is a bit of a right of passage if you will, while it will surely help insure your posts are not ignored. Of course I could be completely wrong about it all.

I hope you are able to find what you seek, and if you do, for goodness sake take the time to write a report and help out. Who knows you may find a gem that becomes popular with us all!!

This place is open and has been described in details several times before. I would add one tip in order to get the right services. When you get in, you will be let to a room and the manager will come into the room. She or he will chat with you for a few works and say "an pie an pie" in chinese means make arrangement for you to choose the girls. You say yes and you are on track.

JB

Please clear your mailbox, so I can send pm to you.

Thanks

Thomas Jeffeson

I use a couple of proxies to get onto ISG. Problem with both of these is that I cannot search using the search button on the top of the page. It just does not work. Any suggestions?

[quote=south gate]i use a couple of proxies to get onto isg. problem with both of these is that i cannot search using the search button on the top of the page. it just does not work. any suggestions?[/quote]

subscribe to a paid vpn. no more messing around with proxies and speed is acceptable (in china, that is). pm me if you want details or check the general info sub-forum. i remember a whole bunch of posts. cheers

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]Please clear your mailbox, so I can send pm to you.

Thanks

Thomas Jeffeson[/QUOTE]

Thomas Jefferson,

Mailbox is cleared.

OAH

[QUOTE=Beijing Fox]Was at both Golden Garden and the old Peacock massage in Tietu Lu over the last two days. So far no impact due to 'April 1'. Have the saunas changed or closed down?[/QUOTE]Hi Beijing Fox,

I was curious about Golden Garden, as when I always pass by I see some really nice, leggy lookers standing at the door. Haven't had the courage to go in yet because I live right around the corner and pass by with my wife all the time ;-) - Anyone you can recommend there?

I have not been to Peacock in over a year, since the busts the service went down hill IMHO.

I tried 3 Moon Spa @ 338 Jian Guo Lu yesterday the massage was actually professional and the HJ and service was good. But for 268 + 200 tip - a bit steep. I had #18, tall girl with nice attitude, but I think I will pass next time.

Arrived in Pudong at about 3 pm and have a few hours to kill before dinner with my associates. I went to my favored place in Pudong. Saw a couple guys there. There were 5-6 gals in the fishbow. Great experience as usual

JD

I haven't found a particular outstanding provider at GG yet. Interestingly I've never received the girl standing in the door. She usually shows the room and then somebody else comes. The visual quality doesn't decline, therefore maybe it is just a kind of hidden rotation regulation

GG does also give legit massages and I've seen women in there getting foot massages.

I haven't been to the 3 Moon for a long time, because of the price.

I haven't been to any one of them since the Expo has started and I'm not sure about the subsequent influences.




[QUOTE=Angstman]Hi Beijing Fox,

I was curious about Golden Garden, as when I always pass by I see some really nice, leggy lookers standing at the door. Haven't had the courage to go in yet because I live right around the corner and pass by with my wife all the time ;-) - Anyone you can recommend there?

I have not been to Peacock in over a year, since the busts the service went down hill IMHO.

I tried 3 Moon Spa @ 338 Jian Guo Lu yesterday the massage was actually professional and the HJ and service was good. But for 268 + 200 tip - a bit steep. I had #18, tall girl with nice attitude, but I think I will pass next time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jude Bright]Arrived in Pudong at about 3 pm and have a few hours to kill before dinner with my associates. I went to my favored place in Pudong. Saw a couple guys there. There were 5-6 gals in the fishbow. Great experience as usual

JD[/QUOTE]


Jude,

If we only had an clue of what your talking about? You are sharing intel but about where, what, and whom? lol

PC out

Just back from three days in Shanghai and not sure what to make of it. In part it was probably due to where I was (although I had been at this hotel before and their in-house spa/massage was closed down on this trip. Shame, as it was always a sure thing even if a little too high) and tried to visit several places mentioned by the locals, but either my Chinese was too poor, or the taxi drivers did not want to go near some of them. The few I visited were either not open or not open to our hobby right now. I figure it is due to being so close to the opening of Expo.

I will be going back in the late fall, so I hope things improve. For now, I will stay in Beijing and enjoy the local sights and experiences.

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Jude,

If we only had an clue of what your talking about? You are sharing intel but about where, what, and whom? lol

PC out[/QUOTE]I am sorry if I did not give more details.

This place has been described many times before and I did not want to waste too much room on this board. By the way, did I just saw a similar post#2045?

JB

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Jude,

If we only had an clue of what your talking about? You are sharing intel but about where, what, and whom? lol

PC out[/QUOTE]Seem that pudong for many popular places. Any update from puxi side?

Yup at least give some FR details for your visit.

Surprising, I am able to access ISG directly without proxy.

Don't know how long this will last, but enjoy it while you can.

Have fun.

[QUOTE=Jude Bright]Arrived in Pudong at about 3 pm and have a few hours to kill before dinner with my associates. I went to my favored place in Pudong. Saw a couple guys there. There were 5-6 gals in the fishbow. Great experience as usual

JD[/QUOTE]mate, honestly, how can one identify this place so much talked about if you refer to it as "your favoured place in Pudong"...?

[QUOTE=Jude Bright]I am sorry if I did not give more details.

This place has been described many times before and I did not want to waste too much room on this board. By the way, did I just saw a similar post#2045?

JB[/QUOTE]


Jude,
I have posted here for awhile. My reports are usually less formal than some. If you have read some of my other posts, you will see I do post details. In post 2045, I gave the road the place was located on. If anyone was curious, they could have pm'd me and asked.

You however were about as vague as possible with exactly no one knowing what you were talking about. It was the same as posting nothing at all. When you get more time and reliable reports under your belt, perhaps you wont recd these comments from more proven senior members.

BTW, you were telling me to RTFF? thats kinda funny since I have put in quite alotta time in RTFF all over. Other Sr Members can certainly vouch for my reports but yours are still in question. Pls keep posting your adventures here but at least let us know alittle more detail.

PC out

[QUOTE=Bionicman]mate, honestly, how can one identify this place so much talked about if you refer to it as "your favoured place in Pudong"...?[/QUOTE]


Bman,

Exactly what I said to the man as well. About as vague as "I went to a sauna today in Macau and it was real good"

PC out

Just went to Buckingham Palace (KTV, Xu Jiahui Road and Dapu Road) yesterday. Great selection of girls, tall, short, petite, busty, we actually took more than 8 rounds to select, but they just sit with you and sing. No hanky stuffs.

Not sure how much the drinks cost as my buddy paid for them. But the tips were expensive, 5 for mummy, 5 for girls and even 5 for DJ. They must be jacking up the prices because KTVs and bars are the only 'legit' form of entertainment at night now.

I will be in Shanghai (Also Quingdao) beginning of June. This is my first trip to China. I am already experienced in Indonesia and Singapore.

I already read a little bit but it seems that most of the places are massage places. My questions are:
1. I can not speak or read one word chinese and I don´t know how easy it is to find the right place in Shanghai.
2. How does it work with the Taxi? Do they charge by meter or is it like Jakarta you have to negotiate? Are there special Taxi companies that you should use as a foreigner?
3. What´s about outcalls? I found Craigslist but I don´t trust this advertisements and normally they are very expensive. Is it possible to take girls home at bars for LT? My supplier booked me at the Sky River or Sky Boutique Hotel.
4. I heard in the news that China will controll the Internet. Does ISG and Craigslist etc work in China? What´s about Yahoo and other web services?

This guy can receive I'm's. I'd give him a little info so he doesn't get PO'd. LOL

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I will be in Shanghai (Also Quingdao) beginning of June. This is my first trip to China. I am already experienced in Indonesia and Singapore.

I already read a little bit but it seems that most of the places are massage places. My questions are:

1. I can not speak or read one word Chinese and I don't know how easy it is to find the right place in Shanghai.

2. How does it work with the Taxi? Do they charge by meter or is it like Jakarta you have to negotiate? Are there special Taxi companies that you should use as a foreigner?

3. What's about outcalls? I found Craigslist but I don't trust this advertisements and normally they are very expensive. Is it possible to take girls home at bars for LT? My supplier booked me at the Sky River or Sky Boutique Hotel.

4. I heard in the news that China will controll the Internet. Does ISG and Craigslist etc work in China? What's about Yahoo and other web services?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnLeeAussie]Hi all,

Gooday! I just arrive in shanghai for the expo. I think we (Aussie) have one of the best display and concept! Bravo, we are down under but up above in many things. I am staying in Le meridien at Nanjing walking st. (with wife)and wonder if they are places that I can go for a quickie. I saw a few massage places along the road behind (hankou) with some nice young thing. Please advise if anyone have try these places.

Cheers![/QUOTE]I was in staying in Le Meridien Nanjing road last week and my wife continue her expo tour 2nd day. I was tired and tell her I will rest in the hotel and for some work and meeting but actually I was going out to try a few massage shops after no assistance from the members here. I started after lunch at 2pm till 9 pm spending total of rmb 1500 for 4 places. Here are a summary of few shops I try last week:.

1. Along Hankou Road

Visited 4 shops along this stretch starting from corner of Hebei/hankou, first is a Dongyin (meaning japan), the oil massage is good and very professional. Ask for HJ but was rejected they do not offer such a services I think partly due to Expo and bosses told not to offer such services.

The second shop along Hankou Road is AoKe which is quite small so didn't do it.

Third, there is a JB Massage, order a oil massage and it is well done and relaxing as well. The massage girl keep asking me where I stay and wanted to visit me in my room. The charges is around RMB 130 per hour on outcall charges. I am sure if you have the time and willing to spend a few hundred RMB you can score something. The 4 place is a shop just behind Charms hotel called JJ massage. This shop is well done with girls in nice uniforms and pretty. I order a oil for 388 an hour. You have to change to a disposal trouser for RMB 20 or a used one (free). The massuer was nice and massage was good, very soon time was up and I offer an extension of an hour. I ask for a HJ and was ask to pay additional xiaofei (up to you but I give 200RMB). At the end I spend near to a 1000 RMB for this massage!

2. Zhejiang Road. / Yanan Road (east ocean tower)

There is a massage centre for men in this building which offer a very good massage in a nice room (every room has its own bath etc like a hotel room) and the massage will be 60 mins plus another 30 mins on the dick therapy. You will enjoy very much on this new skills and make you dick strong and hard. Total cost RMB 388. I was totally satisfied and return to my hotel after 9 pm and did it with my wife. Still going strong!

Mr Hungry

1. Shanghai will welcome your dollars, but finding obscure places can be difficult, taxi drivers know little English. Maps may help but you should get a local phone sim card and find out the number of a translation service to help you. Always carry your hotel card, so if all else fails you can show that and get back.

2. Taxi's are licensed and metered, you should be ok, as long as you use taxi ranks or hail one down in the street. Some drivers will try it on (at the airports maybe), but it is quite rare now. If they muck about just get out and try another one. As a guide, Pudong Airport to west side town, should be about 150 to 200 Rmb.

3. Use advertisers at your own risk, generally, like everywhere in the world, they are full of ****, of course, whatever you do, do not go with the touts

4. ISG is blocked in China, you can get to it through proxy sites or VPN, best to sort out before you travel. Yahoo and google is ok.

Otherwise. Play safe, sorry cannot recommend places directly, guess who reads these posts. In the Massage and saunas, they will know what you want.

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I will be in Shanghai (Also Quingdao) beginning of June. This is my first trip to China. I am already experienced in Indonesia and Singapore.

I already read a little bit but it seems that most of the places are massage places. My questions are:

1. I can not speak or read one word Chinese and I don't know how easy it is to find the right place in Shanghai.

2. How does it work with the Taxi? Do they charge by meter or is it like Jakarta you have to negotiate? Are there special Taxi companies that you should use as a foreigner?

3. What's about outcalls? I found Craigslist but I don't trust this advertisements and normally they are very expensive. Is it possible to take girls home at bars for LT? My supplier booked me at the Sky River or Sky Boutique Hotel.

4. I heard in the news that China will controll the Internet. Does ISG and Craigslist etc work in China? What's about Yahoo and other web services?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hungry Expat]I will be in Shanghai (Also Quingdao) beginning of June. This is my first trip to China. I am already experienced in Indonesia and Singapore.

I already read a little bit but it seems that most of the places are massage places. My questions are:
1. I can not speak or read one word chinese and I don´t know how easy it is to find the right place in Shanghai.
2. How does it work with the Taxi? Do they charge by meter or is it like Jakarta you have to negotiate? Are there special Taxi companies that you should use as a foreigner?
3. What´s about outcalls? I found Craigslist but I don´t trust this advertisements and normally they are very expensive. Is it possible to take girls home at bars for LT? My supplier booked me at the Sky River or Sky Boutique Hotel.
4. I heard in the news that China will controll the Internet. Does ISG and Craigslist etc work in China? What´s about Yahoo and other web services?[/QUOTE]
I'd suggest that you read more than "a little bit" as most of the answers are already right here and/or in the other China threads.

1. How easy to find the right place - depends on your definition of easy, but should not be a problem if you RTFF.

2. Taxi are all metered and used OK. They'll sometimes go "round-about" but as cheap as taxis are in Shanghai, shouldn't cost you more than an extra few yuans. Generally safe in Shanghai - and again you would have found this out if you had bothered to RTFF more.

3. Craiglist and most other Internet "sites" are geared for the foreign newbie suckers - you'll want to RTFF the Beijing threads to get a feel as to how bad these web sites are. And if you will please RTFF, you'd know where to go to to get "girls home from bars." Please at least read [post]1010263[/post] and [post]1007210[/post]

4. You generally need to use VPN/proxies to access these sites and even things like Google and Facebook - again please RTFF the "Living in China" and/or the "General Info" threads. Surprisingly though, we have been hearing reports here and other web sites just this week that a lot of web sites are no longer blocked in China. Don't know what that's all about. Please at least RTFF [post]919091[/post]

The point of me posting all the above instead of just telling you rudely to RTFF (which I KNOW I should actually) is that there are just too many of you newbies coming over to China - with very few willing to do any RTFF - and my bringing this up will hopefully encourage others to really do RTFF before coming up with these idiotic questions.

You will also want to at least RTFF our resident mongering expert Sammy T's guide to newbies [post]990547[/post]

Jeez!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]

Jeez!!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Dear SEAJoe,

It's been a while since I visited Shanghai and there are great changes I believed. I am here for the Expo and of course some fun. Since you are the expert of Shanghai and the godfather of China, I am wondering if I can write to you by private messenge for directions of place to have fun in Shanghai and perhaps Beijing? If it is OK for you, I will pay Jackson to turn on my Private Message immediately.

Thanks a lot! Please excuse my poor English as I am a Japanese.

Update on hotel security.

I stay at the Hilton, as always, and register my Filipino gf with me when I check in, so no problems.

Came in on Monday night, and they have their regular security guys in place again, and the guy recognized us, just asked me for "our" room number.

Tuesday night, about 1:30 we were coming in the hotel. Same guy was there, and I saw a western guy was at the desk with a Chinese girl, from what I can see he was signing her in. (don't know what is involved. But they were friendly to him). The security guard just smiled at us, and said have a good night.

So apparently they will let you bring a girl up to the room after 11pm as the guy at the counter was.

Thanks for your support and PM´s.

I will post when I am back Mid of June.

[QUOTE=JohnLeeAussie]I was in staying in Le Meridien Nanjing road last week and my wife continue her expo tour 2nd day. I was tired and tell her I will rest in the hotel and for some work and meeting but actually I was going out to try a few massage shops after no assistance from the members here. I started after lunch at 2pm till 9 pm spending total of rmb 1500 for 4 places. Here are a summary of few shops I try last week:.

1. Along Hankou Road

Visited 4 shops along this stretch starting from corner of Hebei/hankou, first is a Dongyin (meaning japan), the oil massage is good and very professional. Ask for HJ but was rejected they do not offer such a services I think partly due to Expo and bosses told not to offer such services.

The second shop along Hankou Road is AoKe which is quite small so didn't do it.

Third, there is a JB Massage, order a oil massage and it is well done and relaxing as well. The massage girl keep asking me where I stay and wanted to visit me in my room. The charges is around RMB 130 per hour on outcall charges. I am sure if you have the time and willing to spend a few hundred RMB you can score something. The 4 place is a shop just behind Charms hotel called JJ massage. This shop is well done with girls in nice uniforms and pretty. I order a oil for 388 an hour. You have to change to a disposal trouser for RMB 20 or a used one (free). The massuer was nice and massage was good, very soon time was up and I offer an extension of an hour. I ask for a HJ and was ask to pay additional xiaofei (up to you but I give 200RMB). At the end I spend near to a 1000 RMB for this massage!

2. Zhejiang Road. / Yanan Road (east ocean tower)

There is a massage centre for men in this building which offer a very good massage in a nice room (every room has its own bath etc like a hotel room) and the massage will be 60 mins plus another 30 mins on the dick therapy. You will enjoy very much on this new skills and make you dick strong and hard. Total cost RMB 388. I was totally satisfied and return to my hotel after 9 pm and did it with my wife. Still going strong![/QUOTE]


Welcome to Shanghai JLA. A few more reports like this and RTFF and you will be a old timer here.

PC out

Suggestion to Admin - clean up the thread of endless dumb questions AND endless RTFF posts. One has to scroll quite a long way back to get anything else.


I'm a visitor on this this thread and will do my homework before asking for advice. But I also see it from the other viewpoint. I'm mostly active on the Brasil forum. There, as here, there is so much to absorb. There are people who avoid saying anything to dumb queries. Or there's people who can be a bit rude. Or there's people who will occasionally [I]answer[/I] occasional dumb questions when they have time and inclination.

Look at it like this. You are a frequent world traveller, a reasonably experienced monger, and like to seek out new places to visit. How do you decide where to go? One way is to have a look at the activity on a particular forum & thread. Many of them however, are a bit like closed clubs where everyone talks the local lingo in the assumption that every reader knows what they're talking about. So it mostly serves to help people who don't need much help. If we expect people to RTFFs we at least need to make the FFs readable.

Often when I answer a newbie it's cos I know it will take him several hours of searching just to get a feel of a place, and the availability of accessible information written in a manner understandable to a newcomer.

If the visitor has to do that with forums of even half a dozen different countries, simultaneously spending a several hours working out usable flights and other requirements, he will give up on the obscure ones. If the object is to keep novices away of course, that's fine.

;) :rolleyes: :D

[QUOTE=Red Sun]Dear SEAJoe,

It's been a while since I visited Shanghai and there are great changes I believed. I am here for the Expo and of course some fun. Since you are the expert of Shanghai and the godfather of China, I am wondering if I can write to you by private messenge for directions of place to have fun in Shanghai and perhaps Beijing? If it is OK for you, I will pay Jackson to turn on my Private Message immediately.

Thanks a lot! Please excuse my poor English as I am a Japanese.[/QUOTE]
Whoa!!! Hold on there!!
PLEASE!!!! I am NOT an expert on Shanghai and certainly am NOT the godfather of China. Not even close!

Your idea about paying your subscription on ISG though, is a very good one - but I will NOT be able to give you any good advise on Shanghai, for I like I said - I don't know all that much about Shanghai. One guy you could/should PM to though would be Ace Gallant; AG is resident of Shanghai and always great to ISG guys needing a bit of a heads up etc in Shanghai.

There are also other great Shanghai experts on our boards - and you could/should also PM them - so, like I said, go ahead and pay the $19.95 to Jackson; it's peanuts compared to what you can get in return for full membership.

Just IMHO

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Suggestion to Admin - clean up the thread of endless dumb questions AND endless RTFF posts. One has to scroll quite a long way back to get anything else.


I'm a visitor on this this thread and will do my homework before asking for advice. But I also see it from the other viewpoint. I'm mostly active on the Brasil forum. There, as here, there is so much to absorb. There are people who avoid saying anything to dumb queries. Or there's people who can be a bit rude. Or there's people who will occasionally [I]answer[/I] occasional dumb questions when they have time and inclination.

Look at it like this. You are a frequent world traveller, a reasonably experienced monger, and like to seek out new places to visit. How do you decide where to go? One way is to have a look at the activity on a particular forum & thread. Many of them however, are a bit like closed clubs where everyone talks the local lingo in the assumption that every reader knows what they're talking about. So it mostly serves to help people who don't need much help. If we expect people to RTFFs we at least need to make the FFs readable.

Often when I answer a newbie it's cos I know it will take him several hours of searching just to get a feel of a place, and the availability of accessible information written in a manner understandable to a newcomer.

If the visitor has to do that with forums of even half a dozen different countries, simultaneously spending a several hours working out usable flights and other requirements, he will give up on the obscure ones. If the object is to keep novices away of course, that's fine.

;) :rolleyes: :D[/QUOTE]
Just happened to read one of your Brazil posts [post]964487[/post]


[QUOTE]You really go out of your way to insult people don't you? My my, you went to Brasil a good two years before me and speak like you think you own the place.

I for one, don't find your current posts valuable. But if you care to post links to the days when you, Prosal, actually posted field reports on Brasil I am willing to be convinced. What's your purpose on here? Aren't there more appropriate forums where you can practise being offensively patronising? You might be a very nice, very well-informed guy. But on here, your current profile is a low-life, over-educated and under-informed, contentious little man with little or nothing to say for himself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Just happened to read one of your Brazil posts [post]964487[/post][/QUOTE]
Well good for you mate. You dug back a while for that one. And yes, I had a go at a guy who, although he posts useful info on east europe, just shit-stirs on brasil. so much so it got clogged up and may get clogged up again with his meanderings. which is what is happening to this thread. If you look at my posts generally there, you see i answer newbies as well as established people. As to my reason on here, was browsing for new locations and for new world trip. no worries if i'm not welcome. neither will i hold it against you if you yourself need 'newbie info' one day.

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Well good for you mate. You dug back a while for that one. And yes, I had a go at a guy who, although he posts useful info on east europe, just shit-stirs on brasil. so much so it got clogged up and may get clogged up again with his meanderings. which is what is happening to this thread. If you look at my posts generally there, you see i answer newbies as well as established people. As to my reason on here, was browsing for new locations and for new world trip. no worries if i'm not welcome. neither will i hold it against you if you yourself need 'newbie info' one day.[/QUOTE]
Oh, OK - many thanks.

SEAJ

Billy is an avid reader of both SEAJ's and Christepherd's posts - both you guys are seasoned experienced valuable contributors to ISG - please do not take each other the wrong way.

For some reason the Chinese threads attract way more than their share of what can be perceived as dumb newbie / non RTFF / LE trolling posts.

SEAJ and Billy and many others get way sick of these posts and it is difficult to ignore them. In my case most notably are the fake posts regarding Maria's services in the Beijing thread.

We all log onto China Forum on a daily basis seeking new / updated info and it is most annoying to try to wade through the posts seeking info only from poster's with 1 to not many posts and have never contributed anything to any forum in ISG - these guys are usually treated with contempt.

IMHO any senior member who is a valuable contributor in other ISG forum is warmly welcomed by experienced China mongers - sharing is caring. Recently another guy who mostly posts in the Brazil Forum posted his intention to visit Beijing - some senior BJ members arranged a meet and greet and a great time was had by all.

I myself know if I receive PM's from guys with a handfuklll of posts asking for info I usually ignore them - but if I receive a PM from a Senior Member with a good track record of providing useful info on ISG then he will get all the help I can offer.

Keep up the good work guys - the world of mongering in China aint easy right now - crack down in SH and BJ making life difficult - now is the time ALL senior members help our brothers out by continuing the flow of info both on the main and by PM.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Billy is an avid reader of both SEAJ's and Christepherd's posts - both you guys are seasoned experienced valuable contributors to ISG - please do not take each other the wrong way.

For some reason the Chinese ....................

Keep up the good work guys - the world of mongering in China aint easy right now - crack down in SH and BJ making life difficult - now is the time ALL senior members help our brothers out by continuing the flow of info both on the main and by PM.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Billy - and perhaps an apology is in order to christepherd - but I've never appreciated anybody - whether newbies or oldbies - coming on and first right off the bat, start to criticize and tell everyone what we all should or should not do - and in the case of christepherd, actually make it formal to the Administrator.

In deferrence to your advise and good judgement though, I will defer from any further comments.

thanks
SEAJ
Ps. Was that a veiled threat about if I ever ask for newbie questions in the future?

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Ps. Was that a veiled threat about if I ever ask for newbie questions in the future?[/QUOTE]Billy has spent way too many nights staring into a half empty glass in many a bar completely devoid of any available pussy to ever threaten a Senior Poster with 2,700 odd posts - was taught at a very young age tro never take on anybody with more knowledge than yourself.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Billy has spent way too many nights staring into a half empty glass in many a bar completely devoid of any available pussy to ever threaten a Senior Poster with 2,700 odd posts - was taught at a very young age tro never take on anybody with more knowledge than yourself.[/QUOTE]
Oooops sorry for not being specific.

I meant christepherd's "........no worries if i'm not welcome. neither will i hold it against you if you yourself need 'newbie info' one day....."

SEAJ

Hi gang, Just a heads up but Heting Elite was closed tonight. Found it with no trouble from the various reports here (construction has subsided in that area) and walked right into an empty lobby. No door guy, no elevator guy. Stepped into the elevator, pushed 3 and scared the crap out of two girls sitting at the counter when I emerged! They fetched Mr. Bob who gave me a story about "closed for repairs, call tomorrow. " He handed me a nice jet-black card and apologized. Too bad I waited until my last night this trip to sample Heting.

FYI, I've been using the Shanghai and Taiwan boards and breaking the rules by not posting for about 3 years- partially because I get tired of filtering through all the bitching & whining about newbie comments to get to the actual information! So, flame away at me, I'll disregard the bitching and will try to have some Taiwan and Shanghai posts up over the next few months. Jackson will get my $20 too!

Howdy,

Yet another random but seldom posts about the "merry finish" places that I've frequented.

There's a nice place I've gone to and taken friends to that seems to get decent reviews from my friends.

It's on anyuan Road off of xikang Road.

158 gives you a foot massage + oily merry finish

I suggest #7.

How do you go wrong with that?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Billy is an avid reader of both SEAJ's and Christepherd's posts - both you guys are seasoned experienced valuable contributors to ISG - please do not take each other the wrong way.

For some reason the Chinese threads attract way more than their share of what can be perceived as dumb newbie / non RTFF / LE trolling posts.

SEAJ and Billy and many others get way sick of these posts and it is difficult to ignore them. In my case most notably are the fake posts regarding Maria's services in the Beijing thread.

We all log onto China Forum on a daily basis seeking new / updated info and it is most annoying to try to wade through the posts seeking info only from poster's with 1 to not many posts and have never contributed anything to any forum in ISG - these guys are usually treated with contempt.

IMHO any senior member who is a valuable contributor in other ISG forum is warmly welcomed by experienced China mongers - sharing is caring. Recently another guy who mostly posts in the Brazil Forum posted his intention to visit Beijing - some senior BJ members arranged a meet and greet and a great time was had by all.

I myself know if I receive PM's from guys with a handfuklll of posts asking for info I usually ignore them - but if I receive a PM from a Senior Member with a good track record of providing useful info on ISG then he will get all the help I can offer.

Keep up the good work guys - the world of mongering in China aint easy right now - crack down in SH and BJ making life difficult - now is the time ALL senior members help our brothers out by continuing the flow of info both on the main and by PM.[/QUOTE]Just an idea or two from a newbie who appreciates the contributors' inputs and has no desire to get caught up in the crossfire:

1. Is anyone experienced and public-spirited enough to do the excellent work that Sammy T did for Beijing, for Shanghai or other big towns? This could help well-intentioned newbies to avoid being RTFF'd.

2. Could there be a thread or threads for great town guides like Sammy's to make them easier to find? After a few weeks they get lost in the reports of distinction.

All the best

D

[QUOTE=JohnLeeAussie]2. Zhejiang Road. / Yanan Road (east ocean tower)

There is a massage centre for men in this building which offer a very good massage in a nice room (every room has its own bath etc like a hotel room) and the massage will be 60 mins plus another 30 mins on the dick therapy. You will enjoy very much on this new skills and make you dick strong and hard. Total cost RMB 388. I was totally satisfied and return to my hotel after 9 pm and did it with my wife. Still going strong![/QUOTE]Could you pls elaborate on the "new skills", what did they do different from the usual massage experience (prostate massage?).

Thanks a lot !

Coming here for the world expo.. IF anyone would like to meet up, please PM me. I have been to shanghai once before (pudong), but we can hunt together.

If anyone in Shanghai would do that. At present there is too much paranoia in Shanghai for that too happen. You know, RTFF is not that difficult and some of us may answer I'm. And asking someone in this forum to be 'public spirited' is asking a little much I think.

[QUOTE=Dastardley]Just an idea or two from a newbie who appreciates the contributors' inputs and has no desire to get caught up in the crossfire:

1. Is anyone experienced and public-spirited enough to do the excellent work that Sammy T did for Beijing, for Shanghai or other big towns? This could help well-intentioned newbies to avoid being RTFF'd.

2. Could there be a thread or threads for great town guides like Sammy's to make them easier to find? After a few weeks they get lost in the reports of distinction.

All the best

D[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]Hi folks

Our favourite (at least mine) is open again. But they play it low, means all the lights from outside are off. Even the groundfloor is dark. But in 5th floor it is everything as allways.

I had a lineup of 8 girls, at 23. 00h in today evening. Allways nice to see the curtain rise and smiling gils will apear in the fishbowl. I chose no. 2.

When we had our shower a second girl came in, as usual. She was free for the shower and gave me a short BBBJ. I sent her out after shower. No regret, no. 2 (xiao xue) was great. Service as described many times in this forum.

Price did not change. The told me, it will stay open from now one, raids are over since expo started, but they have to open in a low level, no ads etc.

Regulares will know with sauna in puxi I mean. I will keep it low, too.

If you have no idea which sauna it is, pm me. Newbies with no reports will not get answers.

Thanks to pc. For the information, that this sauna was reopened.

I will definately go back this week.

Have fun

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]Where is this?

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]One guy you could/should PM to though would be Ace Gallant; AG is resident of Shanghai and always great to ISG guys needing a bit of a heads up etc in Shanghai.
[/QUOTE]

Is AG still active in Shanghai? The last contribution in his thread in regard of Shanghai dates way back to September last year.

I have to admit that I occasionally believe(d) he is your "alter ego".

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]Is AG still active in Shanghai? The last contribution in his thread in regard of Shanghai dates way back to September last year.

I have to admit that I occasionally believe(d) he is your "alter ego".

Levitian[/QUOTE]
My alter Ego??!!! ROFLMAO!!!

Yeah, I may have had differences on the board with AG - but in real life, the guy is OK. At least I do know that he goes out of his way/bends over backwards to accomodate guys he meets here/ones he hardly knows.

I saw him posting something a couple or so weeks ago on his thread.

My alter Ego!!!
Really!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Explorotica]
FYI, I've been using the Shanghai and Taiwan boards and breaking the rules by not posting for about 3 years- partially because I get tired of filtering through all the bitching & whining about newbie comments to get to the actual information! So, flame away at me, I'll disregard the bitching and will try to have some Taiwan and Shanghai posts up over the next few months. Jackson will get my $20 too![/QUOTE]
Bully for you!!

Yeah... right!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Levitian]Is AG still active in Shanghai? The last contribution in his thread in regard of Shanghai dates way back to September last year.

I have to admit that I occasionally believe(d) he is your "alter ego".

Levitian[/QUOTE]

AG told me he pass his thread to someone else. If someone does reply back it might not be him. Go ahead and post something on his thread.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Whoa!!! Hold on there!!
PLEASE!!!! I am NOT an expert on Shanghai and certainly am NOT the godfather of China. Not even close!

There are also other great Shanghai experts on our boards - and you could/should also PM them - so, like I said, go ahead and pay the $19.95 to Jackson; it's peanuts compared to what you can get in return for full membership.

Just IMHO

SEAJ[/QUOTE]If you not expert on Shanghai or not godfather then why you post in Shanghai or stop people post in Shanghai? Many people post a lot in Shanghai no information and make reading hard, one page full of posts no information.

Yes, I will pay Jackson for PM.

AG? I know him many year ago when he living in Tokyo. He teach me how to play in Tokyo when I am small only 18. But long time no see him and no in touch with him. I think he never post anymore or not stay in Shanghai anymore? I post in his forum and hope he reply.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Weelock]AG told me he pass his thread to someone else. If someone does reply back it might not be him. Go ahead and post something on his thread.[/QUOTE]So I get not AG? But this someone else is he AG brother or good friend and in Shanghai who will help me?

Thank you for reply

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]My alter Ego??!!! ROFLMAO!!!

Yeah, I may have had differences on the board with AG - but in real life, the guy is OK. At least I do know that he goes out of his way/bends over backwards to accomodate guys he meets here/ones he hardly knows.

I saw him posting something a couple or so weeks ago on his thread.

My alter Ego!!!
Really!!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]What is ROFLMAO? I know you and AG is different guy. AG is not in Shanghai maybe, I lost in touch with him many year.

Yes, he very OK, I meet him in Tokyo many year ago I am 18, he tell me Small boy go home! but later he bring me go place. I japanese also not know play in japan.

So new person AG can help me?

Shanghai still funny?

Back in Shanghai and it looks like most places still open fo biz. I spoke to some friends with contacts on the inside that say there will still be more crack downs because there have been a few cases of "lao wai" abusing the girls which then get reported to police and cause trouble for everyone. Stay cautious, and if you know of any of these lao wai, beat their asses cause they are really messing it up for the rest of us.

Jon

Went to G18 yesterday and all was back to normal (it was closed when I went 10 days back). Seems business was brisk as had to wait 15 mins before being taken to the fishbowl. The selection was a bit disappointing and it seems the regulars and the stars have retreated to their home towns (I know at least two who have done so). Picked no 53, 7/10: looks; 6/10: body. Made great use of her wired bra in pumping up her assets. And I picked her as she was the only one smiling.

Inside the room: Fairly mechanical, all the usual with decent skills but no real enthusiasm and playfulness. DFK not allowed, although she enjoyed DATY.

#10 also looked nice, will try her over the weekend and update the forum.

Bill: 790 with the VIP card.

968 Sauna is located at – well, you guessed it – 968 Pudong Avenue. It's actually quite easy to find as it's immediately in front of the bar called "The Office". I've seen several write ups about people trying to figure out 'the game' with the girls at The Office bar. Well, the real game is thirty feet in front of the door at the venue clearly marked 968 Sauna Club.

Given that road construction has been underway for quite some time, and that Pudong Avenue has recently reopened straight through, there really hasn't been a lot of traffic in this area except from locals or those passing by on foot.

Inside the entrance there are usually a couple of guys who direct you to the staircase which takes you to the second floor. Check in your shoes, head to locker room, change and head to shower area, which is adequate, but nothing like Heting or Baoan. Attendants are marginally helpful, and definitely not overbearing. Following shower you've got to work your back to the drying area for the pajamas.

Resting area is a little tired looking, and could use some remodeling, but it will do. It's kind of similar to the resting area at the Merrylin Hotel across from the Intercontinental.

They use a server system for the girls with the mamasan making the arrangements. She's worked there two years and is kind of cute in her own right, and probably late 20s or early 30s. She's probably a solid six, might even be worth a work out – but not sure if she does session work.

She brings in a girl and its up to you to say yes or no. I haven't had to say no yet. She usually picks sturdy girls with a little meat on them – as opposed to spinners, which might be available, though I've not gone in that direction. Interestingly, I've always had girls with adequate racks.

Head to room where they have a bed, bathroom area with sink, and a shower that's pretty large. Strangely though, there is no toilet, but if you got to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] there's always the shower. (Kind of like a desperation [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at Mango Massage or Tulip Massage in Bangkok.)

They do lock the door, which is helpful. Session runs about 70 minutes, but I've never had a clock watcher at 968. You can go with the menu and have the normal routine with cat bath and all the rest, or you can launch into a game of Tiger (as in get on the floor with that wet Tiger pussy sauna girl and let me throw the meat to you.) Bottom line is that most of the girls here have been kind of fun. No real stunners, no big time fancy décor. In many ways it feels a little like the old B2 World Plaza before B2 became run down.

Following the session you can go to the shower with girl for a soap-down rub-down mutual wash off, which is a nice way to wind down.

Following session, back to the rest area where mamasan usually comes in and checks on service level. Or, alternately, you could head over to the larger more open rest area (where she usually hangs out with her lap top) to report problems, if any encountered.

In summary 968 Sauna is an average neighborhood place that gets the job done. It's in a part of town where there aren't too many other choices. For those people staying at the Eton Hotel or Novotel, the "Tiger Options" fall off quickly if you're only looking at the row of massage parlors behind the Eaton Hotel, where you will be hard pressed to negotiate full service even if you BYOC (Bring Your Own Condom) though it can be done. If you're a Chinese speaker and want to negotiate at one of those massage shops, girls who will go full service generally demand 700RMB, which is not worth it IMHO. (Big time rush and most doors don't lock.)

Instead, perhaps a more interesting option is to walk to The Office bar, hang out a little, and watch the entrance to 968 Sauna to see if anything interesting shows up for work!

Price for a session at 968 is 650RMB.

There you have it a post on the Shanghai board with Expo in full swing.

Let the Shanghai Sauna paranoia factor begin to subside!

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]Went to XXX yesterday and all was back to normal (it was closed when I went 10 days back). Seems business was brisk as had to wait 15 mins before being taken to the fishbowl. The selection was a bit disappointing and it seems the regulars and the stars have retreated to their home towns (I know at least two who have done so). Picked no 53, 7/10: looks; 6/10: body. Made great use of her wired bra in pumping up her assets. And I picked her as she was the only one smiling.

Inside the room: Fairly mechanical, all the usual with decent skills but no real enthusiasm and playfulness. DFK not allowed, although she enjoyed DATY.

#10 also looked nice, will try her over the weekend and update the forum.

Bill: 790 with the VIP card.[/QUOTE]Please, no names until expo has ended. You want these places keep open, do not talk about them. Regular members will know what you talk about (see the other recent post), first time visitors will have bad luck for now, but actually that is in their interest because the risk is currently just too high. Use PM for info, do not publish details publicely!

FA

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Please, no names until expo has ended. You want these places keep open, do not talk about them. Regular members will know what you talk about (see the other recent post), first time visitors will have bad luck for now, but actually that is in their interest because the risk is currently just too high. Use PM for info, do not publish details publicely!

FA[/QUOTE]Noted; Discretion will be exercised !! Thanks FA

[QUOTE=Christopherd]Suggestion to Admin - clean up the thread of endless dumb questions AND endless RTFF posts. One has to scroll quite a long way back to get anything else.


I'm a visitor on this this thread and will do my homework before asking for advice. But I also see it from the other viewpoint. I'm mostly active on the Brasil forum. There, as here, there is so much to absorb. There are people who avoid saying anything to dumb queries. Or there's people who can be a bit rude. Or there's people who will occasionally [I]answer[/I] occasional dumb questions when they have time and inclination.

Look at it like this. You are a frequent world traveller, a reasonably experienced monger, and like to seek out new places to visit. How do you decide where to go? One way is to have a look at the activity on a particular forum & thread. Many of them however, are a bit like closed clubs where everyone talks the local lingo in the assumption that every reader knows what they're talking about. So it mostly serves to help people who don't need much help. If we expect people to RTFFs we at least need to make the FFs readable.

Often when I answer a newbie it's cos I know it will take him several hours of searching just to get a feel of a place, and the availability of accessible information written in a manner understandable to a newcomer.

If the visitor has to do that with forums of even half a dozen different countries, simultaneously spending a several hours working out usable flights and other requirements, he will give up on the obscure ones. If the object is to keep novices away of course, that's fine.

;) :rolleyes: :D[/QUOTE]

Well said.

I have RTFF (20 pages back) to find some decent information prior to my trip to Shanghai. No valuable info to be found. Only replies like "RTFF" or similar. I noticed when a newbie or any person asked any question, most likely the answer is RTFF. Is'nt the definition of a forum based on sharing information ?
Anyhow, I wont ask my question as I know what the answer will be like : RTFF !
I did'nt experienced this on other sub-forums such as the Indonesian, Thai, Philippine, Peruvian, Kenyan, Brazilian, you name it, ..... just here at the Shanghai forum.
Good that there are additional sources on nightlife in Shanghai.

If no newbies will/can get informed, this forum will be a boring source soon with just a handfull of mongerers that keep repeating the same stuff about the same establishments.
Well, I will travel to the hunting grounds of Shanghai anyway and express my experience broadly here upon my return. Being it positive or negative.
I believe it can be fun to check things out by myself on the spot.
No offense intended, period.

[QUOTE=Asianatic]Well said.

I have RTFF (20 pages back) to find some decent information prior to my trip to Shanghai. No valuable info to be found. Only replies like "RTFF" or similar. I noticed when a newbie or any person asked any question, most likely the answer is RTFF. Is'nt the definition of a forum based on sharing information?

Anyhow, I won't ask my question as I know what the answer will be like: RTFF!

I did'nt experienced this on other sub-forums such as the Indonesian, Thai, Philippine, Peruvian, Kenyan, Brazilian, you name it,. Just here at the Shanghai forum.

Good that there are additional sources on nightlife in Shanghai.

If no newbies will/can get informed, this forum will be a boring source soon with just a handfull of mongerers that keep repeating the same stuff about the same establishments.

Well, I will travel to the hunting grounds of Shanghai anyway and express my experience broadly here upon my return. Being it positive or negative.

I believe it can be fun to check things out by myself on the spot.

No offense intended, period.[/QUOTE]Just in case someone still has not understood this. Currently in Shanghai there is something called EXPO. This goes along with a high level of interest to show a good nice picture to the outside world. Our hobby is not included in this view. So we keep a low profile for good reason. And any newbie asking excuse the wording stupid questions could be LE.

And on this I had to go through 20 pages, when I first arrived here I read hundreds of pages and learned a lot. Later I discovered the search function, great for specific questions. And everyone asking, I am in Shanghai first time where are the girls, just does not deserve an answer. I never asked soemthing like that still took a long time until I got answers to some questions.

This coin has a few sides

Peace

FA

[QUOTE=Asianatic]Well said.

I have RTFF (20 pages back) to find some decent information prior to my trip to Shanghai. No valuable info to be found. Only replies like "RTFF" or similar. I noticed when a newbie or any person asked any question, most likely the answer is RTFF. Is'nt the definition of a forum based on sharing information ?
Anyhow, I wont ask my question as I know what the answer will be like : RTFF !
I did'nt experienced this on other sub-forums such as the Indonesian, Thai, Philippine, Peruvian, Kenyan, Brazilian, you name it, ..... just here at the Shanghai forum.
Good that there are additional sources on nightlife in Shanghai.

If no newbies will/can get informed, this forum will be a boring source soon with just a handfull of mongerers that keep repeating the same stuff about the same establishments.
Well, I will travel to the hunting grounds of Shanghai anyway and express my experience broadly here upon my return. Being it positive or negative.
I believe it can be fun to check things out by myself on the spot.
No offense intended, period.[/QUOTE]

I'm a long time SH resident and senior member here on ISG, and I will openly say I agree with you. I'm not at all offended by your post because you are simply saying what is starkly obviously true. Well said sir.

For some constructive help, I recommend you use the search function (which can be very helpful), and also check out AG's forum -- he eliminates wankers there. There is a lot of good info here, just clouded with a ton of totally useless (e.g. "RTFF"), redundant (though this is often without any ill-will but is highly prevalent on the SH forum), and self-serving crap. Note that I'm also saying there's a lot of GOOD info here -- so no need to shun the entire forum.

-B-

Agree with Bonzo and Asianatic, I am following several mongering forums on Shanghai (in different languages !) and noticed that the ISG Shanghai forum is quite 'agressive' to newbies or 'general' questions. Of course it is annoying when the same questions pop up again and again or very general ones like 'I will be in Shanghai on XXX, staying in XXXhotel, could you give me some advice etc..). Such questions show indeed unpreparedness or laziness and bother most members. When I started to follow this very informative forum (credit where it is due) I did quiet some back reading. Since I lived in Shanghai some 15 years ago, when things looked very different from todays' cosmopolitan atmosphere (!), I was interested how the mongering scene developed over time. Funny enough back then I did not monger, nor had my little spy-eye open for such places of ill repute :-). But now - older, sadder and wiser - is different. So I learned valuable things for this forum and hope to contribute in time as well. I do not wish to offend anyone, but also hope the general tone of conversation could be more brother-like and show respect to others. In the end we all share the same interest.

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]I'm a long time SH resident and senior member here on ISG, and I will openly say I agree with you. I'm not at all offended by your post because you are simply saying what is starkly obviously true. Well said sir.

For some constructive help, I recommend you use the search function (which can be very helpful), and also check out AG's forum -- he eliminates wankers there. There is a lot of good info here, just clouded with a ton of totally useless (e.g. "RTFF"), redundant (though this is often without any ill-will but is highly prevalent on the SH forum), and self-serving crap. Note that I'm also saying there's a lot of GOOD info here -- so no need to shun the entire forum.

-B-[/QUOTE]
Perhaps things will lighten up a little, now the censorship is lifted, the search buttons work again, and I assume we can expect some new blood on the forum from within Shanghai!

fz :-))

[QUOTE=Jon246]Back in Shanghai and it looks like most places still open fo biz. I spoke to some friends with contacts on the inside that say there will still be more crack downs because there have been a few cases of "lao wai" abusing the girls which then get reported to police and cause trouble for everyone. Stay cautious, and if you know of any of these lao wai, beat their asses cause they are really messing it up for the rest of us.

Jon[/QUOTE]I have often mentioned these sorry asses ruining it for everyone else. Hopefully, someone takes a cleaver to them before PSB gets involved and doomed it for everyone else.

To newbies, what ever info is given out now, it might not be current and up to date because of LE. Many places have been shutdown because of the Expo. Very few places are left for mongering. It's also extremely dangerous. It's not safe now. LE is also known to monitor this forum and other forums. Next, whatever info is given, is read by hundreds of people. The great Fire Wall of China is opened.

Look at Beijing for the last month. Many BBS, saunas and KTV are closed. Every single week things change so fast.

Just like when the Canton Fair starts in Southern China, the same thing happens. All these newbie asking for info and then disappearing when the Fair is over. They ruin things and disappear when it is over.

Suggest using the search forum first....then PM. Don't expect to get any replies if you are not a senior with creditability or someone that is not referred.

[QUOTE=Red Sun]If you not expert on Shanghai or not godfather then why you post in Shanghai or stop people post in Shanghai? Many people post a lot in Shanghai no information and make reading hard, one page full of posts no information.

AG? I know him many year ago when he living in Tokyo. He teach me how to play in Tokyo when I am small only 18. But long time no see him and no in touch with him. I think he never post anymore or not stay in Shanghai anymore? I post in his forum and hope he reply.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]

You have been a member since 2005 and only 10 post ?

I read one of your old post. In business don't expect every Chinese lady translators to act as erotic escort in China.

Since you know AG, send him a PM.

[QUOTE=Asianatic]I did'nt experienced this on other sub-forums such as the Indonesian, Thai, Philippine, Peruvian, Kenyan, Brazilian, you name it, ..... just here at the Shanghai forum.
[/QUOTE]

You have been a member since 2004. You have been to all these places and very little reports ( 57 ) , not much contribution. Now you want information from other members.

[QUOTE=Asianatic]
If no newbies will/can get informed, this forum will be a boring source soon with just a handfull of mongerers that keep repeating the same stuff about the same establishments.
.[/QUOTE]
Let me say that if the newbies RTFF indeed they are referred to the usual locations.
On the other hand, novelties get in too and RTFF helps in finding a new locations, freshly reported.
If the locations are always the same and repeated, fair enough, it means that it will not need too much time to RTFF.,
Either way, RTFF is a learning proces and one will find 80% of his answers replied, maybe even well elaborated than in one only report.

The fundamental issue that frustrates both those who ask questions and those who answer them is that a forum is not the ideal way to present information that most newbies are looking for. A forum has a conversational presentation that is great for discussing issues of the day but bad for sharing slowly changing data. Chronological organization buries things 20 pages back and there is no way do develop any kind of centralized consensus document.

It would be so much better to have a Wiki page for each destination and keep the forum for conversations. For an example see [url]http://wikitravel.org/en/Shanghai[/url].

[QUOTE=J Falcon]The fundamental issue that frustrates both those who ask questions and those who answer them is that a forum is not the ideal way to present information that most newbies are looking for. A forum has a conversational presentation that is great for discussing issues of the day but bad for sharing slowly changing data. Chronological organization buries things 20 pages back and there is no way do develop any kind of centralized consensus document.

It would be so much better to have a Wiki page for each destination and keep the forum for conversations. For an example see [url]http://wikitravel.org/en/Shanghai[/url].[/QUOTE]Never heard of the "report of dístiction" section. This is our China "wiki". When I was a newbie, I found all information in there. The normal section, I used for daily updates.

Try it out, it works.

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Weelock]You have been a member since 2004. You have been to all these places and very little reports ( 57 ) , not much contribution. Now you want information from other members.[/QUOTE]

I think you have not read my post in detail sir :

Well, I will travel to the hunting grounds of Shanghai anyway and express my experience broadly here upon my return. Being it positive or negative.
I believe it can be fun to check things out by myself on the spot.

I was'nt asking for information, I just rolled back 20 pages and did not found an answer. I said in my previous post that I wont ask it here because I know the answer will be : RTFF.

One of my MILF freebies is back in play and I am not in SH to service her.

She is now 44 but still looks damn good.

Any Senior, highly contributing members can PM me for her web site profile.

I post a couple of pix I took about 4 years ago


ES

RTFF or not to RTFF!!

Believe that I contributed to starting this recent discussion.

BUT, please do read what I did write:
[post]1019228[/post]

YES, I am telling Hungry expat to RTFF - but please note that it's within the context of answering his questions specifically and pointing him out to the right post to RTFF. What - this is too rude? What, we're all supposed to actually write out the answer to all questions by a newbie too lazy to RTFF? What only his time is valuable? And then for the rest of the newbie community come out and tell us guys who do try to contribute by sharing our experiences etc that we're too rude?

It's OK for the newbies to get all huffy and indignant at our "rudeness"?

Yeah.... right!!

SEAJ


[QUOTE=Changlelu]Agree with Bonzo and Asianatic, I am following several mongering forums on Shanghai (in different languages !) and noticed that the ISG Shanghai forum is quite 'agressive' to newbies or 'general' questions. Of course it is annoying when the same questions pop up again and again or very general ones like 'I will be in Shanghai on XXX, staying in XXXhotel, could you give me some advice etc..). Such questions show indeed unpreparedness or laziness and bother most members. When I started to follow this very informative forum (credit where it is due) I did quiet some back reading. Since I lived in Shanghai some 15 years ago, when things looked very different from todays' cosmopolitan atmosphere (!), I was interested how the mongering scene developed over time. Funny enough back then I did not monger, nor had my little spy-eye open for such places of ill repute :-). But now - older, sadder and wiser - is different. So I learned valuable things for this forum and hope to contribute in time as well. I do not wish to offend anyone, but also hope the general tone of conversation could be more brother-like and show respect to others. In the end we all share the same interest.

Thank you![/QUOTE]

Hi guys!

Just registered in the forum. I have been living in shanghai for a year know, and just by chance found the forum. I have been participating in other forums in Europe, so, I perfectly know what it is like to have new members only asking and not contributing, but, something that from a personal point of view is the most important thing is not what is said but how it is said. I understand that senior members do not like newers, but the value of a forum is based on the information that can be shared between of all us. I think that it takes exactly the same time to write a polite mail, than a rude one, so, all my mails are based on respect and politeness to all the people of the forum.

I will post several experiences and places I have been lately, hoping that it will be of everyone's help! as i assume that this is what a newcomer must do as a start, to win the right to ask and be answered.

I have gone through quite some bit of the forum, and must say that it contains some very valuable information, and will start giving those locations a try.

Hope that I will be able to actively participate with some interesting info!

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]RTFF or not to RTFF!!

And then for the rest of the newbie community come out and tell us guys who do try to contribute by sharing our experiences etc that we're too rude?

It's OK for the newbies to get all huffy and indignant at our "rudeness"?

Yeah.... right!!

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Dear SEAJ, if my writing sounded "huffy and indignant", then it missed my intention. I was merely stating that this Shanghai form on ISG is not the most friendly towards so-called newbies. I do not know the reason for that, but it is a fact when comparing to the 'other' well known forum or other non-english forums on on hobby. While I agree (as I wrote) that one should do his homework by extensive back-reading I find the general approach here towards newbies often patronizing, I. E. As if some members are superior due to the fact that they have written more or joined earlier etc. One should not assume that 'newbies' are without experience, they could have chosen not to write so extensively (for whatever reason) or their mongering experience is mainly outside Shanghai. Also I learned early on in life that 'C'est le ton qui fait la musique'. Hope I will not be misinterpreted this time and send back into the corner. Ciao.

I have been several times at a MP next to the Renaissance hotel in Pudong, as it is very convenient, as my office is about 10min walk from there. First time I went there, I was in the office and needed a "brake" so went out walking to see if I found something, and saw this SPA, went in and asked for prices, oil massage 60min is almost 300RMB, it was my very first experience, so I had no idea, so, I said, why not, get in the room, and the mamasan tells me that special massage 100RMB. Room nice, with shower inside. My massage lady comes in, nothing special, I had no choice, I would say it was a 5, quite big for asian standards. Get a shower, and she gives me a type of pijama. Massage starts, it is OK, and then she starts massage near the ass, I start getting horny and and I start lifting my ass, so that she can have better access to everything. She tells me to turn around and asks for 300rmb for special, I tell her that 100rmb, we start discussing and end up with 200rmb (it was my first time, I now know it is expensive), and that she should take of her stockings and shirts, but, guess what, I can not touch nothing. HJ was nice, slow, and everytime I was going to explote, I told her to stop and she did stop, so she was not pushing time.

After massage had a shower and back to work, in a much more efficient way

I have repeated this place one more time, and had tthe same, could not choose, experiences was more or less as first time, but I would like to try new girls.

From a guy with ZERO posts. Nothing, natta, zilch

Margao
Regular Member
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HI!
Hi, I am in SH and would love to get in touch with her. Could you email me her contact?

Thanks a bunch!

Want to guess my reply??

Try this for my reply.............."Read my post!!!!!......not a chance I will send to you"

ES

ES

[QUOTE=Changlelu]Dear SEAJ, if my writing sounded "huffy and indignant", then it missed my intention. I was merely stating that this Shanghai form on ISG is not the most friendly towards so-called newbies. I do not know the reason for that, but it is a fact when comparing to the 'other' well known forum or other non-english forums on on hobby. While I agree (as I wrote) that one should do his homework by extensive back-reading I find the general approach here towards newbies often patronizing, I. E. As if some members are superior due to the fact that they have written more or joined earlier etc. One should not assume that 'newbies' are without experience, they could have chosen not to write so extensively (for whatever reason) or their mongering experience is mainly outside Shanghai. Also I learned early on in life that 'C'est le ton qui fait la musique'. Hope I will not be misinterpreted this time and send back into the corner. Ciao.[/QUOTE]
First my apologies to you as I should not have quoted your particular post as my frustration is with SOME newbies in general.

OTH, I will address the issues you’ve brought up – in the hope that we can once and for all put this irritating AND recurring matter to rest. (yeah – right! Dream on!)..

OK, first my definition of a newbie:
- Anyone who has NOT previously/only recently starts to post on the China boards.

My several definitions of an irritating newbie:
- Comes on here with an attitude that we all owe it to him to reply.
- And then throwing this old nonsense about how we’re all supposed to be sharing information - irregardless if he’s done so himself or not. We’ve all had experience with how some of these newbies would come on and practically take the tone as if he’s dealing with the wait staff.
- Start off the bat by telling us all what we should or should not do.
- Berate us when he doesn’t get the answer to what he’s asking… Pronto!! Yeah – right, his time is the only one valuable – and then coming on and stating something like – Yeah, the time you took to tell me to RTFF, you could/should have spent answering me instead.
- Don’t bother to do much/any RTFF (quite obvious most times) and asking stupid/easily answered by RTFF questions.
- (Guys – please feel free to – and do - add your own definition of the irritating newby!!)

On your assertion that “….they could have chosen not to write so extensively (for whatever reason)..” What, we’re supposed to give information to one and all even though he’s not done his part to share information. Why?? Why should we?? If we’re being paid to do so, then yes, but otherwise…..??!!

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that good mongering by foreigners in China is not as easily attainable as at other “sex destinations” for the Powers that be in China certainly do NOT want China to be known as a sex destination. Yes, this trade is rampant here – but it’s more as a necessity/inevitability and allowed/caters for the locals, NOT for the foreigner. This being so, we on the China boards ARE wary of sharing too much information as we highly suspect that the LE is monitoring our boards. When a place/provider gets too well publicized amongst foreigners, invariably something happens to it.

OK – what is my definition of a good newbie and one deserving of answers:
- Has paid Jackson the $19.95 subscription and would/could ask his question by PM’s to us.
- Has done his homework and RTFF, and only then coming on to ask sensible and adequately researched questions.
- Has a track record of posting up good and informative posts in the past.
- Do come back on to report his experiences here.
- Put up a post introducing himself first.

And I always like to point newbies to Sammy T’s great advise post to Newbies [post]932174[/post]

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno] She tells me to turn around and asks for 300rmb for special, I tell her that 100rmb, we start discussing and end up with 200rmb (it was my first time, I now know it is expensive), and that she should take of her stockings and shirts, but, guess what, I can not touch nothing. HJ was nice, slow, and everytime I was going to explote, I told her to stop and she did stop, so she was not pushing time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your report, I would also like to have such a lunch break. So did she take off her clothes in the end to massage with her bare legs, from your wording it is not quite clear to me. The services vary a lot, sometimes they 'climb' on top to massage you with their smooth legs, other times they 'only' do HJ. Prices vary a lot too, some gals are OK with RMB100 but most will refuse and go for RMB200 (note: I am talking about the 'SPAs', not the BBS variety). I also try get FS sometimes, but only succeeded once for. RMB400. Of course I knew this is way to much, but I just wanted to 'do' her on the spot (very tight) and did not have opportunity/time to go to other places known to offer FS. This was during my orientation period here in Shanghai, so I did not mind to much, but of course the risk of inflation exists. However IMO FS in a SPA/Massage place is not worth it: inflated price (because non-standard service), the lack of proper 'infrastructure' (large bed, often no mirrors), relative unskilled service levels (versus well trained sauna gals) and above all that it is usually not allowed in the place (so hush rush service). But it is nice to try once: while the gal is on the table she kept an eye on the door (forbidden fruit feeling). Best of all was after the act that she told me that the massage place was owned by a police officer! No kidding! This was on Weifang Lu near the river, forgot the nr.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]First my apologies to you as I should not have quoted your particular post as my frustration is with SOME newbies in general.

OTH, I will address the issues you’ve brought up – in the hope that we can once and for all put this irritating AND recurring matter to rest. (yeah – right! Dream on!)..SEAJ[/QUOTE]Dear Joe,

Thanks for your elaborate post, appreciated. I agree let's move on here, knowing that it will be only a matter of 'short time' (to use our lingo) before another open-ended question from some desperate traveller arrives, pre-announcing his upcoming (EXPO) visit and expecting red rope & carpet treatment.

That's quite a summary of your 'own' rules ;-)

Hi all I have a few questions hopefully someone here can help out with. I have a colombian girlfriend who is heading to Shanghai soon and she wants to know some names of discos/bars/clubs etc where she can go for work. She knows about Zapatas and Mexicanas but was hoping to hear of more places. Also if anyone can point me in the direction of cheap hotels/appts in the neighbourhood I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks in advance,

SC

[QUOTE=Changlelu]Best of all was after the act that she told me that the massage place was owned by a police officer! No kidding! This was on Weifang Lu near the river, forgot the nr.[/QUOTE]
The small "Spa" near the bus stop is indeed owned by an ex policeman. However the place was raided two months ago, all girls taken off for "interview", one girl confessed. Joint stayed open but the girls say the "fine"was massive.
Same happened opposite Marriot Courtyard on Weifang, same day, place was shut down, owner locked up. Not sure of status.
fz

I had good experience with Craigslist the other day.

First girl they sent was an old ugly auntie which I immediately sent back (without taxi money of course). Next girl wasn't that beautiful, but good body and very service minded. Even had some anal with her, however after long discussions.

Craigslist isn't the cheapest, but convenient when you're in a hotel.

I speak some Chinese which is a great help. I also think the girls fancy this.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]First my apologies to you as I should not have quoted your particular post as my frustration is with SOME newbies in general.

OTH, I will address the issues you’ve brought up – in the hope that we can once and for all put this irritating AND recurring matter to rest. (yeah – right! Dream on!)..

OK, first my definition of a newbie:
- Anyone who has NOT previously/only recently starts to post on the China boards.

My several definitions of an irritating newbie:
- Comes on here with an attitude that we all owe it to him to reply.
- And then throwing this old nonsense about how we’re all supposed to be sharing information - irregardless if he’s done so himself or not. We’ve all had experience with how some of these newbies would come on and practically take the tone as if he’s dealing with the wait staff.
- Start off the bat by telling us all what we should or should not do.
- Berate us when he doesn’t get the answer to what he’s asking… Pronto!! Yeah – right, his time is the only one valuable – and then coming on and stating something like – Yeah, the time you took to tell me to RTFF, you could/should have spent answering me instead.
- Don’t bother to do much/any RTFF (quite obvious most times) and asking stupid/easily answered by RTFF questions.
- (Guys – please feel free to – and do - add your own definition of the irritating newby!!)

On your assertion that “….they could have chosen not to write so extensively (for whatever reason)..” What, we’re supposed to give information to one and all even though he’s not done his part to share information. Why?? Why should we?? If we’re being paid to do so, then yes, but otherwise…..??!!

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that good mongering by foreigners in China is not as easily attainable as at other “sex destinations” for the Powers that be in China certainly do NOT want China to be known as a sex destination. Yes, this trade is rampant here – but it’s more as a necessity/inevitability and allowed/caters for the locals, NOT for the foreigner. This being so, we on the China boards ARE wary of sharing too much information as we highly suspect that the LE is monitoring our boards. When a place/provider gets too well publicized amongst foreigners, invariably something happens to it.

OK – what is my definition of a good newbie and one deserving of answers:
- Has paid Jackson the $19.95 subscription and would/could ask his question by PM’s to us.
- Has done his homework and RTFF, and only then coming on to ask sensible and adequately researched questions.
- Has a track record of posting up good and informative posts in the past.
- Do come back on to report his experiences here.
- Put up a post introducing himself first.

And I always like to point newbies to Sammy T’s great advise post to Newbies [post]932174[/post]

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

Wow, what a summary. I am 100% with you, but there is one very simple solution to the problem: just ignore.

Levitian

So did she take off her clothes in the end to massage with her bare legs, from your wording it is not quite clear to me.

Sorry I was not clear, at the end, she just slip down her stockings till more or less to her kness but left her undies on, and opened her t-shirt, not even taking off her bra, so, I could only touch her cheap poliester bra, noting else.

So at the very end, I paid 100RMB more for less. I have learnt from that, and only offer know 100RMB, it found it is not worth to pay more for nothing.

Yesterday afternoon, I had some free time, so I decided to go and try Sacrosa in Pudong, I was 100% convinced where it was, so, I did not write the address. When I enter to the building I was convinced it was located, I get in the elevator, and when it opens on the 5th floor, I am surprised, it is a Restaurant! At that moment you can not imagine how much I regret not haven taken the address with me (will never happen again), I thought, OK, it is in the area, so it will not be very complicated, I entered in almost every single building next to Next Age, and found nothing, I wanted to give this sauna a try, and was decided to find it, but after almost 1hour looking around, and getting in many buildings I quite, and decide to go to Weifang. I decide to try Tequila in Weifang. These small MP always surprise me, from outside they seem small, but once inside, they are big and quite nice decorated. I take a 2h massage for 300RMB, but the mamasan does not mention nothing about special massage, and for a moment I think that due to the crack down they might not offer it.

The girl that is going to give me the massage seems to have just got up from a nap, would say she is a 6. No idea why, I never get the ones that are outside.

Massage starts and I was just waiting to see if there would be any indicator of a happy ending, when she starts with me legs I think, this will be the moment to see, and for my surprise she finishes the legs with no indication of happy ending (I get a little disappointed) she tells me to turn around, starts with my chest, and then to me legs, and finally tells asks the waited question. Do you want a massagy here, and I say, YES OF COURSE! Agrees for 100RMB but I can not touch her (OK, even if I pay more, I will not be able to touch her anyway). She does a lovely job, playing with every single part, I try to ask her for a prostatic massage, but yells, NO! So it is just superficial. She is working more or less 20min, delaying the final moment, I tell her several times to stop, becasue, I was just did not want it to end, but, after a while, I got to the point of no return.

After that, we still have approx 30min, and finishes doing my legs.

All in all, a quite good experience!

I have got Sacrosa pending! And next time, for sure, I will go with the address written down! Will not happen again!

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao]The small "Spa" near the bus stop is indeed owned by an ex policeman. However the place was raided two months ago, all girls taken off for "interview", one girl confessed. Joint stayed open but the girls say the "fine"was massive.

Same happened opposite Marriot Courtyard on Weifang, same day, place was shut down, owner locked up. Not sure of status.

fz[/QUOTE]Whow, you're well informed, she did not say "ex-LE", but anyway, guess there is more money in treating sour muscles. Just hope it was not the girl I met who had to face a tough interrogation, she was quite nice. One thing I noticed in that shop was that there were a few vague local dudes hanging out (think HK/Mongkok triad types). Damm raids

As a “Regular Member” and only being able to indulge in my hobby once or twice a year, I have to agree with both SE Asian Joe and Levitian. In the 4 years I have been a paid up member, I do extensive research in the forum for a few weeks before I leave and develop an action plan. I haven’t made a lot of reports but I do report on my experiences, good and bad.
It comes down to manners, sure it might be quicker to just post a request for information but it is rude not to do the research yourself especially as it is so easy.

Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.

Hopefully this will therefore be useful.

A couple of points from the outset.

1 – I had no problem accessing ISG from my hotel.

2 – I took a girl back one night, getting to the hotel at about 1am. There was no need to register the girl. I just walked in holding her hand and went straight to the elevator. Whilst I cannot pretend to be experienced in Shanghai, the sex trade is an important part of the Chinese economy and hotel staff probably do not care. It may be different in lower end hotels, but I was in a 5 star hotel and had no problems.

3 – I only visited Heting Elite and a couple of bars, namely Malones and Manhattan although I have put some additional information in my report as I had done the research.

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite – 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road – this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.

Golden 18 (G18) – corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu

Yu Ping – 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian – could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa – 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Tianhao – 978 Gu Mei Lu

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Bars

Manhattan – 154 Nan Yang Road. Great bar, filled with plenty of girls. Was fortunate enough to meet an American in Malones (see later) who suggested that I don't choose a girl from Malones until I have at least been to Manhattan – I am glad he did and I followed his advice.

Ended up taking a nice Vietnamese girl back to my hotel for RMB 1000. Had a great time and carried on with another session in the morning. She left at about 6am which was great as it allowed me to get some sleep as I had a meeting later that day

Judy's. 99-3 Xi Kang Lu – did not go here so can't comment.

Malones. Tongren Lu – walking distance from Malones – was not that busy – saw a lovely girl, looked to be Chinese, arranged to meet her later for RMB 1000 overnight – was just hedging my bets in case Manhattan was not as described by my new found American friend – I need not have worried.

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.

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[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.

Hopefully this will therefore be useful.

A couple of points from the outset.

1 – I had no problem accessing ISG from my hotel.

2 – I took a girl back one night, getting to the hotel at about 1am. There was no need to register the girl. I just walked in holding her hand and went straight to the elevator. Whilst I cannot pretend to be experienced in Shanghai, the sex trade is an important part of the Chinese economy and hotel staff probably do not care. It may be different in lower end hotels, but I was in a 5 star hotel and had no problems.

3 – I only visited Heting Elite and a couple of bars, namely Malones and Manhattan although I have put some additional information in my report as I had done the research.

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite – 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road – this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.

Golden 18 (G18) – corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu

Yu Ping – 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian – could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa – 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Tianhao – 978 Gu Mei Lu

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Bars

Manhattan – 154 Nan Yang Road. Great bar, filled with plenty of girls. Was fortunate enough to meet an American in Malones (see later) who suggested that I don't choose a girl from Malones until I have at least been to Manhattan – I am glad he did and I followed his advice.

Ended up taking a nice Vietnamese girl back to my hotel for RMB 1000. Had a great time and carried on with another session in the morning. She left at about 6am which was great as it allowed me to get some sleep as I had a meeting later that day

Judy's. 99-3 Xi Kang Lu – did not go here so can't comment.

Malones. Tongren Lu – walking distance from Malones – was not that busy – saw a lovely girl, looked to be Chinese, arranged to meet her later for RMB 1000 overnight – was just hedging my bets in case Manhattan was not as described by my new found American friend – I need not have worried.

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.

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Great stuff brother !
THIS is how a forum works ! Will get my review shared here once I'm back for sure too.
Cheers to you.

In the hotel beside a coffee shop. 550 before dinner, 650 after. In 18 months found one dud. Have found fantastic lovers in that sauna. Some have worked in Heting.

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno]Yesterday afternoon, I had some free time, so I decided to go and try Sacrosa in Pudong, I was 100% convinced where it was, so, I did not write the address. When I enter to the building I was convinced it was located, I get in the elevator, and when it opens on the 5th floor, I am surprised, it is a Restaurant! At that moment you can not imagine how much I regret not haven taken the address with me (will never happen again), I thought, OK, it is in the area, so it will not be very complicated, I entered in almost every single building next to Next Age, and found nothing, I wanted to give this sauna a try, and was decided to find it, but after almost 1hour looking around, and getting in many buildings I quite, and decide to go to Weifang. I decide to try Tequila in Weifang. These small MP always surprise me, from outside they seem small, but once inside, they are big and quite nice decorated. I take a 2h massage for 300RMB, but the mamasan does not mention nothing about special massage, and for a moment I think that due to the crack down they might not offer it.

The girl that is going to give me the massage seems to have just got up from a nap, would say she is a 6. No idea why, I never get the ones that are outside.

Massage starts and I was just waiting to see if there would be any indicator of a happy ending, when she starts with me legs I think, this will be the moment to see, and for my surprise she finishes the legs with no indication of happy ending (I get a little disappointed) she tells me to turn around, starts with my chest, and then to me legs, and finally tells asks the waited question. Do you want a massagy here, and I say, YES OF COURSE! Agrees for 100RMB but I can not touch her (OK, even if I pay more, I will not be able to touch her anyway). She does a lovely job, playing with every single part, I try to ask her for a prostatic massage, but yells, NO! So it is just superficial. She is working more or less 20min, delaying the final moment, I tell her several times to stop, becasue, I was just did not want it to end, but, after a while, I got to the point of no return.

After that, we still have approx 30min, and finishes doing my legs.

All in all, a quite good experience!

I have got Sacrosa pending! And next time, for sure, I will go with the address written down! Will not happen again![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete[/QUOTE]

505 Urumqi Road North (Wulumuqi Beilu).

上海宾馆
乌鲁木齐北路505号


See my post from March for info about the confusing arrangement of 3 different hotel buildings on the site.

Mega

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Golden 18 (G18) – corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu[/QUOTE]Here is a copy of the namecard:

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]In the hotel beside a coffee shop. 550 before dinner, 650 after. In 18 months found one dud. Have found fantastic lovers in that sauna. Some have worked in Heting.[/QUOTE]And how to find it has been described on this site about a dozen times. Just search, it is indeed a bit weird, the restaurant is on 4th floor. The guards used to press the right button for you in the Golden past. Heting and Sacrosa share (or shared) the same management, even though in the past Sacrosa girls were much better trained and more GFE, Heting had the better lookers. Unfortunately these times are gone, selection and GFE way down. Girls still beautiful but much more mechanical than before and all superstars are gone.

Just my opinion but based on extensive research on and off site

FA

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.


Yu Ping – 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian – could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa – 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.

[/blue][/QUOTE]

Thanks for your report. I just want to add a few things.

I believe Tomson is closed permanently. World Plaza is now the home to a bunch of stores selling baby stuff. I think Yuping and 999 are two separate places. There is a sauna in 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu. The last report awhile ago seems to indicate that the place is going down- too many punters and management doesn't care about quality of service. I heard that old Yuping sauna has been moved but have never bothered to find out where. Cheers

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.


Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Enjoy.

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let me make a joke: it took a bit of time to gather all this but you did RTFF!:)
See? it works! LOL
On the other hand it takes also time and money (and get the fun, very true!) to make the reports who can be read for free.
So asking to RTFF is not so weird.
Anhow, let me post the map of where Shangai hotel is...(gor it here, from the FF!)
As a bonus I also attach the chinese writing (for the taxy driver) fo the Shangai hotel
As I am not in a position to understand chinese writing, I do hope it refers to the hotel and the whole sentence is not just saying (in chinese) something like RTFF! LOL!

[QUOTE=Mike666]Thanks for your report. I just want to add a few things.

I believe Tomson is closed permanently. World Plaza is now the home to a bunch of stores selling baby stuff. I think Yuping and 999 are two separate places. There is a sauna in 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu. The last report awhile ago seems to indicate that the place is going down- too many punters and management doesn't care about quality of service. I heard that old Yuping sauna has been moved but have never bothered to find out where. Cheers[/QUOTE]

and here you are served with the 999 biz card, good fo taxi drivers too

(also this comes by...RTFF, btw!)

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]In the hotel beside a coffee shop. 550 before dinner, 650 after. In 18 months found one dud. Have found fantastic lovers in that sauna. Some have worked in Heting.[/QUOTE]
another result of having done homework before (aka RTFF), or maybe having gone there? can't remember!
Anyhow: here's the business card

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

.....
Tianhao – 978 Gu Mei Lu
.....
Enjoy.

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Am I blessed by good will today? naaah...just by RTFF you can get this too:)

and before someone asks where to eat distinctively in Shangai, have a terrace overview of Pudong from the Bund, at a reasonable (western) price, well served, I can only recommend two locations
Postioned one opposite the other
here's hte biz cards of two nice places
Not for the Cheap Charlies, but also not reserved for the high spending crews
Enjoy!

@Bionicman :

From the Shanghai Post : "after a tepic start of EXPO-related tourism, the relevant public authorities are reporting brisk sales in a certain segment of the tertiary sector, mainly comprising of men's health service establishments aka saunas. The operators of such venues are explaining the upsurge in clients due to the fact that many are covering large distances on the sprawling EXPO grounds. Could this be a sign of a consumer-led economy finally emerging... blah, blah."

But seriously : thanks and one question/suggestion to the moderators : why not have Jj1973's overview post or something similar as the first permanent post on this Shanghai forum, will save a lot of trouble/hassle and repeat questions. Many forums follow (mostly non-mongering of course) have such a feature. Personally I do not mind and actually like to RTFF because it gives a good background but it might not suit occasional visitors who perhaps only find out at short notice that they are going to Shanghai and need info fast.

After not finding sacrosa the first time, today, I will give it a second try!

Will post my experience!

Hmm, on the one hand free access to the forum from within China and the recent flow of info for newbies is recommendable - but on the other, doesn't anybody bother the risks of places being shutdown just because they are talked about to much and gather to much attention? that is a different thing than just bashing newbies just because they were reluctant to do their homework...

Just visited G18 and the place looked closed from outside (security guy with orange jacket sleeping next to the door). Waited some 30mins around the entrance, only one chinese guy walked in, came out 2mins later.

Decided to move to Sacrosa but when I got to the 5th floor some security guys were playing poker in the lobby and only one girl was behind the desk. A guy came to me, tried to say something but when I asked "closed today?" he confirmed "closed, sorry" and showed me out.

Didn't bother to try any other place and just hope this isn't permanent.

PS: I noticed the blue sign in the hotel elevator that police restricts access by "guests" to hotel rooms: a) they should register and b) leave before 23:00 - we'll see if they really enforce it.

Went to get a simple back massage with possible special ending which is not my normal forte and first time in Shanghai so did not know what to expect. Got the oil massage, and the upsell for special HJ ending for an additional 300. Then halfway into the "flight" she mentions I can touch her tits for an additional 300. Seemed a bit steep to pay around 200 for the massage, 300 for HJ and 300 just to touch the little bitties. Anyways the idea of getting a good massage with ending by an attractive girl seems like a great idea. The problem is that it's probably just a dream to get all 3 in one package. My masseuse was fairly attractive, but the massage is what would be expected by a HJ specialist, more of just softly touching and prodding.

OK, I've been lazy about posting so here is an attempt to make good.

Name: New Lucky Garden Sauna

Location: 1211 Yan'an West Road. Two buildings down from the Howard Johnson All Suites Shanghai. It's a big square building with no windows and a parking lot behind.

Cost: Asked 850 RMB for FS, but gave me a discount to 820. Beer was 10 RMB extra and I had to ask the somewhat clueless attendant for it.

Facilities: Very clean, excellent hot tub, sauna, comfy chairs, etc.

Girls: Had a lineup of about 10 in the massage room. Generally very attractive. Some young (19-24), some older (25-29). Varying breast sizes including some with large breasts. Chose a hot and friendly 22 year-old with large firm breast and slender build.

Treatment: Began with 45 minutes of excellent traditional Chinese massage. This girl really knew her stuff. Then left the room for a minute and returned to remove her clothes. She had great firm tits and a nice slender body. Then on to the sex. She had a good attitude, smiled, groaned a the right moments, but was not very skillful. For example she sucked my balls a little too hard and didn't notice I was getting softer as she progressed. Since I speak 0 Chinese I could not "train her." BJ was with condom. She was a little compulsive about wiping her hands with wet wipes, etc. It was a bit of a buzz kill. She would not kiss me (is that normal in China? This was first time here). Anyhow, I did manage to get my rocks off within the allotted 1.5 hours, but it wasn't the best sex every. The girl also spoke no English.

Conclusion: I liked the environment and the girls looked good. I might go again but would choose another girl, hoping to find one with more skill.

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Hmm, on the one hand free access to the forum from within China and the recent flow of info for newbies is recommendable. But on the other, doesn't anybody bother the risks of places being shutdown just because they are talked about to much and gather to much attention? That is a different thing than just bashing newbies just because they were reluctant to do their homework.

Just visited G18 and the place looked closed from outside (security guy with orange jacket sleeping next to the door). Waited some 30mins around the entrance, only one Chinese guy walked in, came out 2mins later.

Decided to move to Sacrosa but when I got to the 5th floor some security guys were playing poker in the lobby and only one girl was behind the desk. A guy came to me, tried to say something but when I asked "closed today? " he confirmed "closed, sorry" and showed me out.

Didn't bother to try any other place and just hope this isn't permanent.

PS: I noticed the blue sign in the hotel elevator that police restricts access by "guests" to hotel rooms: a) they should register and b) leave before 23:00. We'll see if they really enforce it.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen,

I confirm the above. Both G18 and Sacrosa little chance to get service.

Unfortunately. I hope it chance soon.

Regards,

Cure

Decided to move to Sacrosa but when I got to the 5th floor some security guys were playing poker in the lobby and only one girl was behind the desk. A guy came to me, tried to say something but when I asked "closed today? " he confirmed "closed, sorry" and showed me out.

Didn't bother to try any other place and just hope this isn't permanent.

PS: I noticed the blue sign in the hotel elevator that police restricts access by "guests" to hotel rooms: a) they should register and b) leave before 23:00. We'll see if they really enforce it.[/QUOTE]I was planning to go to Sacrosa tonight. I was smart enough to check this forum before to go and found this message. So, I pick up the phone and call the place. There was a lady answer the phone she told me that the place is closed for renovation. I asked how long it will close and she said she does not know. She ask me to call back tomorrow. I do not know what that means.

So, the lessen learned, RTF before to go.

Thanks a lot J

[QUOTE=Changlelu]But seriously : thanks and one question/suggestion to the moderators : why not have Jj1973's overview post or something similar as the first permanent post on this Shanghai forum, will save a lot of trouble/hassle and repeat questions. Many forums follow (mostly non-mongering of course) have such a feature. Personally I do not mind and actually like to RTFF because it gives a good background but it might not suit occasional visitors who perhaps only find out at short notice that they are going to Shanghai and need info fast.[/QUOTE]The answer my friend is not blowing in the wind but on TFF

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2015[/url]
there is a section under the title Report of Distinction.

Now the infos provided by Jj1973 are linked there.

Hey eveybody!

I went yesterday to Sacrosa, and was closed, seems that several of us faced the same problem.

Hope it re-opens, so I can give it a try soon!

[QUOTE=JoyofSex]Hmm, on the one hand free access to the forum from within China and the recent flow of info for newbies is recommendable - but on the other, doesn't anybody bother the risks of places being shutdown just because they are talked about to much and gather to much attention? that is a different thing than just bashing newbies just because they were reluctant to do their homework...

Just visited G18 and the place looked closed from outside (security guy with orange jacket sleeping next to the door). Waited some 30mins around the entrance, only one chinese guy walked in, came out 2mins later.

Decided to move to Sacrosa but when I got to the 5th floor some security guys were playing poker in the lobby and only one girl was behind the desk. A guy came to me, tried to say something but when I asked "closed today?" he confirmed "closed, sorry" and showed me out.

Didn't bother to try any other place and just hope this isn't permanent.

PS: I noticed the blue sign in the hotel elevator that police restricts access by "guests" to hotel rooms: a) they should register and b) leave before 23:00 - we'll see if they really enforce it.[/QUOTE]Read one of my last posts, the next poster bragged about how he great he was posting info in the middle of this.

Maybe it is coincidence but with the experiences we had in Bejing during the Olympics and right now I doubt this. The more we talk and give the impression we do not understand the warnings by the authorities the more we will suffer. Most of our preferrred places were open a long time but not anymore. Maybe that convinces the majority that the current info scarcity is not bad will, but just the right thing to do.

Most seniors living in China do stay away from the hobby or the known places, maybe they know a little more than newcomers? I can understand the frustrations but better go home horny than get caught in a raid, just my huble opinion!

FA

[QUOTE=Mike666]Thanks for your report. I just want to add a few things.

I believe Tomson is closed permanently. World Plaza is now the home to a bunch of stores selling baby stuff. I think Yuping and 999 are two separate places. There is a sauna in 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu. The last report awhile ago seems to indicate that the place is going down- too many punters and management doesn't care about quality of service. I heard that old Yuping sauna has been moved but have never bothered to find out where. Cheers[/QUOTE]Yup Tomson had closed quite long ago. Was there in 07 or begin 08. There after, it is no longer in ops.

About Yu Ping and 999, I need to get clarify from bros in Shanghai? RTFF that it is the same boss. True? But where is yu ping, it is alway get mixed up with 999 address.

They may blow you, lick your butt, lick your body, suck your nipples, and fuck you, sometimes twice in an hour, but very few kiss you. This is not fatal, in my view.

[QUOTE=J Falcon]OK, I've been lazy about posting so here is an attempt to make good.

Name: New Lucky Garden Sauna

Location: 1211 Yan'an West Road. Two buildings down from the Howard Johnson All Suites Shanghai. It's a big square building with no windows and a parking lot behind.

Cost: Asked 850 RMB for FS, but gave me a discount to 820. Beer was 10 RMB extra and I had to ask the somewhat clueless attendant for it.

Facilities: Very clean, excellent hot tub, sauna, comfy chairs, etc.

Girls: Had a lineup of about 10 in the massage room. Generally very attractive. Some young (19-24), some older (25-29). Varying breast sizes including some with large breasts. Chose a hot and friendly 22 year-old with large firm breast and slender build.

Treatment: Began with 45 minutes of excellent traditional Chinese massage. This girl really knew her stuff. Then left the room for a minute and returned to remove her clothes. She had great firm tits and a nice slender body. Then on to the sex. She had a good attitude, smiled, groaned a the right moments, but was not very skillful. For example she sucked my balls a little too hard and didn't notice I was getting softer as she progressed. Since I speak 0 Chinese I could not "train her." BJ was with condom. She was a little compulsive about wiping her hands with wet wipes, etc. It was a bit of a buzz kill. She would not kiss me (is that normal in China? This was first time here). Anyhow, I did manage to get my rocks off within the allotted 1.5 hours, but it wasn't the best sex every. The girl also spoke no English.

Conclusion: I liked the environment and the girls looked good. I might go again but would choose another girl, hoping to find one with more skill.[/QUOTE]

All saunas are closed at the same time. Renovations and plumbing problems come and go. The renovations can take a couple of days to a couple of weeks.

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno]Hey eveybody!

I went yesterday to Sacrosa, and was closed, seems that several of us faced the same problem.

Hope it re-opens, so I can give it a try soon![/QUOTE]

Open afternoon of May 25.

Hi all,

I was in Shanghai earlier this month.

I am trying to avoid names of places due to LE.

I went to the hotel in Shanghai where they have sauna where you can get Red Rope service. I think you know the place right?

Was there on 12th May and was fully open.

Had a great time. Same old drill, but the girl i had (cant remember number sorry) spoke great english, short hair, medium bust, about 5'5", and was alot of fun.

Choice of girls were mixed, from real cuties and some dogs

I paid just short of 1000 RMB, which also included extras like body scrub, etc

Have fun

Does anyone know a good website that i can choose a girl from and she will come to my room? By good i mean girl as the same as on the website and offer good service.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Waldeck2]They may blow you, lick your butt, lick your body, suck your nipples, and fuck you, sometimes twice in an hour, but very few kiss you. This is not fatal, in my view.[/QUOTE]But it is very nice. Best performers I know do kiss very skillful. Often these are the ones who either also enjoy the act thoroughly or are the better actors, who cares. In Europe/US kissing with WGs is pretty much out of the question, apart from the FKKs and high class escorts.

But given the current events, kissing is among the lesser problems I worry about. What a nightmare

FA

I will go to Shanghai for my first time in June. I will stay there 4 nights.

Which girlfriendly 4 star hotel you recomme?

Thanks for your answers.

[QUOTE=Reggid]Does anyone know a good website that i can choose a girl from and she will come to my room? By good i mean girl as the same as on the website and offer good service.

Thanks[/QUOTE]NO,

But as we all wish we would let us know if you found it. BTW currently I would be extremely careful in Shanghai with any services. Fast in fast out. I personally would be very hesitating giving out info like hotel rooms to people I do not know pursuing illegal activities.

But I am just an old coward, so do not listen to me.

FA

New to the forum and thought I might write some reports on the places I visited in this area (505 Wulumuqi Beilu) in my last trip 10 days ago

Shanghai Hotel Sauna

The day I came I went to the counter and they told me they only had foot massage till 8pm. Which was strange considering that I had been here before and had full service.

I came back at 8 anyway and after getting my back scrubbed (68 yuan) I was ushered to a waiting room. But instead of being asked to go the line-up, the mummy came in and asked if I came here before. When I said yes, she said that the police had came by earlier in the afternoon and so they are only allowing BJ and HJ and no FS for 550 yuan instead of 750. Since I was there anyway I accepted and was brought to a line-up of 6 girls – average of 6-7. Picked one and was led to the room.

I was then told by the girl that how it works now is that she can't take off her dress. She then started massaging (which wasn't great bcos obviously she isn't skilled in that area) and I told her forget it, just start on the BJ. She then pushed down my shorts (can't take it off either so it gathered at my feet, which on second thought wouldn't be a great idea if the police busted the place and if I ran I would have fallen =|) The BJ wasn't great either but I guess the girl's anxiety might have played the part. I managed to convince her to take off her panties and that made it easier for me to get off on her HJ.

When I left the mummy said that the FS will resume in 10 days, which should be around now. Would be good if anyone can update on this since I will be in this area the next time I come and the FS was good when I tried it before.

Royal Massage

Directions: If you walk out of the lobby of Shanghai Hotel, turn right at the road in front. Walk down and you will pass a Karaoke place (Cashbox?) and then a 7-Eleven convenience store. Just before you reach the main road (the Yanan Road with the flyover) there is a lane on the right. Walk down that lane and you will pass a small pub (Se Ci Bon or something). You will then pass a massage place (which offers just that) and then a small place called Royal Massage.

I came here obviously because the Shanghai Sauna was really expensive at 550 without FS and it was not bad. I talked to the boss and apparently they had opened just 2 days ago. There are about 5 girls in there (ave of 7, ave age 21) and I was led into one of the rooms. I was offered two packages, 198 and 258 (HJ included) for 1 hour. The ambience of the place was pretty good: low lights, aromatherapy candles etc. It started with a massage which was decent and after a while flipped over for a HJ. The girl I had was pretty so I came in no time.

Considering it's cheaper than Shanghai Hotel I thought it was worth the deal.

For the rest of my trip, I walked around the area but many places were closed such as the one on 1426 Nanjing Xi Lu and G18. The only place still operating that I went was to Mingting near Yaohan in Pudong.

Hope when I come up next week more have opened in the Jingan area as I don't fancy going to Pudong just for a FS.

Once I asked a saunagirl in shanghai: "why you do not kiss? You licked my whole body incl. Asshole, but just don't want to touch my lips? "

She said: " yes, BECAUSE I licked your asshole, I will not kiss you, as many men do not like a "dirty" tongue in their mouth".

After I made sure that I did not care this, she kissed me with great passion.

Thomas Jefferson

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]But it is very nice. Best performers I know do kiss very skillful. Often these are the ones who either also enjoy the act thoroughly or are the better actors, who cares. In Europe/US kissing with WGs is pretty much out of the question, apart from the FKKs and high class escorts.

But given the current events, kissing is among the lesser problems I worry about. What a nightmare

FA[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]NO,

But as we all wish we would let us know if you found it. BTW currently I would be extremely careful in Shanghai with any services. Fast in fast out. I personally would be very hesitating giving out info like hotel rooms to people I do not know pursuing illegal activities.

But I am just an old coward, so do not listen to me.

FA[/QUOTE]You dont have to giving out hotel rooms info, just give your mobile number and the name of the hotel. Pick she upstairs by yourself.

As I will come to Shanghai pretty soon, just want to know are the Saunas/KTV resume to normal or not?

Moreover, any one tried call in service recently?

Cheers

Expo and crackdown was evident but some things still continue.

Thursday: started at the old Bourbon Street. Good Phil band but absolutely no SW. Left at 10: 30 went to Zapatas. Pretty dead but about 8or 9 girls working. Quality marginal but there were 2 that were cute. Went home with a nice 24 year old Chinese girl after midnight. There were very few guys picking up girls and she said she wanted 500 RMB for 2 hours which was a great deal.

Friday: started at Malones. Quantity ok. Quality bad. Went to New Manhatten and was busier than I ever saw it. Packed wall to wall. Mostly Phil and Viet Nam girls. Price basically standard 1000 for all night but a few stunners asking for more but I don't think getting it. Ended up with a young Phil but only average when it counted. Seems like the place to be though.

[QUOTE=Canada]Thursday: started at the old Bourbon Street. Good Phil band but absolutely no SW.[/QUOTE]God I used to love Bourbon Street in years past - the bands there were fantastic and great line up of w.hores - and just around corner from Maoming Lu - but alas - all gone now.[QUOTE=Canada]Left at 10:30 went to Zapatas.[/QUOTE]Wednesday is still the only night I go to Zapatas - ladies night.[QUOTE=Canada]Went home with a nice 24 year old Chinese girl after midnight......she said she wanted 500 RMB for 2 hours which was a great deal.[/QUOTE]Canada I know your tastes - 500 does sound a bargain.[QUOTE=Canada]Friday: started at Malones. Quantity ok. Quality bad. Went to New Manhatten and was busier than I ever saw it. Packed wall to wall. Mostly Phil and Viet Nam girls. Price basically standard 1000 for all night but a few stunners asking for more but I don't think getting it. Ended up with a young Phil but only average when it counted. Seems like the place to be though.[/QUOTE]You have described it oh so accurately IMHO.

Malones seems to attract more than it's share of fuglies - no idea if they ever get business - but they shouldn't.

New New Manhattan is literally crawling with Pinoys and Viets - seems like the Chinese, Russians, Mongols and other breeds just give it a wide berth now.

Billy just cannot come at the Phils asking RMB1,000 (US$150) when I can go to Angeles City and get 18 to 22yo hard bodied stunners for US$30 and up - I just cannot do it.

Still a guy has to do what a guy has to do - thanks for posting Canada - keep up the good work guys.

[QUOTE=Jon246]Went to get a simple back massage with possible special ending which is not my normal forte and first time in Shanghai so did not know what to expect. Got the oil massage, and the upsell for special HJ ending for an additional 300. Then halfway into the "flight" she mentions I can touch her tits for an additional 300. Seemed a bit steep to pay around 200 for the massage, 300 for HJ and 300 just to touch the little bitties. Anyways the idea of getting a good massage with ending by an attractive girl seems like a great idea. The problem is that it's probably just a dream to get all 3 in one package. My masseuse was fairly attractive, but the massage is what would be expected by a HJ specialist, more of just softly touching and prodding.[/QUOTE]This is VERY steep. Go to the Xie Tu Road area near Da Mu Qiao Road. Standard massage with happy ending is around RMB 300. Some girls will ask for a tips for loosening their shirt to let you touch (or they will claim that they need to pay a penalty), which is usually another RMB 100. The massage is usually pretty good despite not at the professional level. The price you paid was unfortunately more than that of FS in some places.

Yeah, I know, I guess that's why I normally don't go to the massage places, unless it's the standard massage where I know I'll get a pretty good massage, but no happy happy.

Will have to check out the places on Xie Tu Road.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sniffer]This is VERY steep. Go to the Xie Tu Road area near the Mu Qiao Road. Standard massage with happy ending is around RMB 300. Some girls will ask for a tips for loosening their shirt to let you touch (or they will claim that they need to pay a penalty), which is usually another RMB 100. The massage is usually pretty good despite not at the professional level. The price you paid was unfortunately more than that of FS in some places.[/QUOTE]

She's got a pretty good point though.

[QUOTE=Thomas Jefferson]Once I asked a saunagirl in shanghai: "why you do not kiss? You licked my whole body incl. Asshole, but just don't want to touch my lips? "

She said: " yes, BECAUSE I licked your asshole, I will not kiss you, as many men do not like a "dirty" tongue in their mouth".

After I made sure that I did not care this, she kissed me with great passion.

Thomas Jefferson[/QUOTE]

I went to the Hong. Hong club on Friday night, before finally end up on pearl on water.

IMHO, I would not recommend this place if you are looking for a young and high rated girls. But a good and cheap place to get a highly agressive chicks to get you some action going on.

When I went there, a fat 30's something chick drag me for around 3 minute and was touching my thigh. After I repeatedly say wo bu xiang tiao wu around 10 times, finally she gave up.

It is opened as usual and have a KTV on the second floor.

Please come before 11 PM as some girls would leave the place around 12 AM.

I don't see any foreigners there accept me!

So I would recommend you bring a Chinese friends there if you could not speak Chinese.

So I am out for a walk last night in the pleasant warm summer air. I pass a pink-lit BBS I have seen so often, and the dude in the lawn chair out front is gregarious and eager. He wants to practice English.

He gestures to the frosted glass doors, behind which I see more bodies than I expected. I ask how much, he says 150. I love this country.

We go inside, he immediately suggests Ms Sullen Face with the folded arms. I demonstrate that I will only consider becoming friends with people who smile. He laughs, they laugh, and they all break into relaxed grins - except Ms Sullen Face. Yet he keeps pushing her.... None of them are world class, but they all have very attractive qualities and the atmosphere is one of light happiness. They like to joke and tease with me, and my minimal Chinese is stretched to the max.

I greet a smiley younger lass, whose expression of surprise at considering my Shrek-like physique immediately causes my eyes to begin roving for a new target. I choose the biggest smile and she giggles and yanks me towards the back.

Dingy and squalid, but clean and neat. Aircon pops on with no problem, she is quite the polite hostess. We joke a lot, in my spare Chinese, and she immediately begins to strip - but she wants to just pull up her top, not take off. I laugh at her about this, she laughs back and gets all nekkid.

Absolutely no hurry, loads of overly-dramatic Meryl-Streep-worthy sounds, but eventually she shuts that up and it becomes, well, friendly. Feels like I got a little buddy here, and it's cool. She comments on what I am packing, but just an off-handed 'nice, I like that' kind of thing, not big fake praise. I'm average in my homeland, so I am a demigod here.

Who knows how much later I left. Not much later, really, but it was the right time. One girl slapped me on the ass as I walked past, and I told her she was next.

The guys outside asked me how it was, and I said 'mamahuhu.' They exploded with laughter, and the girl I'd played with shook her fist at me, grinning all the time.

I walked home with a spring in my step. To hell with the Expo, and one more point in the 'win' column for reasons not to live in the city center.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]So I am out for a walk last night in the pleasant warm summer air. I pass a pink-lit BBS I have seen so often, and the dude in the lawn chair out front is gregarious and eager. He wants to practice English.

He gestures to the frosted glass doors, behind which I see more bodies than I expected. I ask how much, he says 150. I love this country.

We go inside, he immediately suggests Ms Sullen Face with the folded arms. I demonstrate that I will only consider becoming friends with people who smile. He laughs, they laugh, and they all break into relaxed grins - except Ms Sullen Face. Yet he keeps pushing her.... None of them are world class, but they all have very attractive qualities and the atmosphere is one of light happiness. They like to joke and tease with me, and my minimal Chinese is stretched to the max.

I greet a smiley younger lass, whose expression of surprise at considering my Shrek-like physique immediately causes my eyes to begin roving for a new target. I choose the biggest smile and she giggles and yanks me towards the back.

Dingy and squalid, but clean and neat. Aircon pops on with no problem, she is quite the polite hostess. We joke a lot, in my spare Chinese, and she immediately begins to strip - but she wants to just pull up her top, not take off. I laugh at her about this, she laughs back and gets all nekkid.

Absolutely no hurry, loads of overly-dramatic Meryl-Streep-worthy sounds, but eventually she shuts that up and it becomes, well, friendly. Feels like I got a little buddy here, and it's cool. She comments on what I am packing, but just an off-handed 'nice, I like that' kind of thing, not big fake praise. I'm average in my homeland, so I am a demigod here.

Who knows how much later I left. Not much later, really, but it was the right time. One girl slapped me on the ass as I walked past, and I told her she was next.

The guys outside asked me how it was, and I said 'mamahuhu.' They exploded with laughter, and the girl I'd played with shook her fist at me, grinning all the time.

I walked home with a spring in my step. To hell with the Expo, and one more point in the 'win' column for reasons not to live in the city center.[/QUOTE]Ahhhha!

And all this without Viagra?

Finally went to a famous sauna, one side seems business not as usual, this is because when viewing from outside (at night), no lights on. The other side of the story, when I went inside, I am told I have to wait for at least 30 mins since all the rooms were full.

As times goes by, I would expect the genuine business-as-usual.

Xujiahui BBS report from an occasional contributor.

I was in the mood for some quick service and decided to try a BBS not far from the Sports Hotel on Nandan Road. The location is 225 meters west of Xuguangqi Memorial Gardens on Nandan Road., on the same side. It's at the end of a stretch of little shops on that block. Hard to miss. It poses as a semi-legit massage place on a busy street, but it's small, a bit shabby and not hard to figure out what it is. I had a somewhat poor experience there once before, with pushy attendants trying to up the ante after negotiations for one provider became a try to get me to pay for two. BTW, they don't speak English or at least pretend not to.

This time the service was better. The older manager took me upstairs to a row of booths with curtains and proceeded to give a mediocre back massage. After about five minutes of that, I flipped over and two fairly cute younger gals came in to push for the upcharge, which was a total of 300 RMB for the Mamasan to work my pole and the girls to kiss, shimmy, moan etc. That would have been a lot for just that, but I had them both lift their shirts and undo their bras, and both had really nice pairs of young, firm breasts just what I like. With a pair in each hand I had a lot of fun comparing and playing and of course, pop goes the weasel. So, basically, I got what I paid for some quick, interesting refreshment, a little more massage from the two young ones afterwards, and off for some dinner.

As for LE, the manager was a little cautious, locking the front door each time after anyone entered, but they didn't seem concerned that I might be LE since I am Laowai. Although I don't usually stay at the Sports Hotel when in Shanghai, I suspect that they get a good deal of business from their guests.

Huck

PS. FWIW, I don's see any difference in the service level from pre Expo to now I had no problems at the three nines in March nor any problem with in house at the large hotel near Shanghai Mansion Restaurant in Xujiahui.

Just came back from SH. Had very good time at the Tong Mill, look like replacement of Tong Ren Lu. Many bars from there are now here. Can recommend Libido, Club LA, Coyote Ugly, Mayflower, and a new disco with dancing (forgot name). But not many folks there, so every visitor gets a good treatment.

Expo is also interesting to visit as there are most of the time half million of visitors almost every day. If you enjoy standing 2 to 4 or sometimes 8 hours for seeing some pavillions inside it is a great experience.

Have fun

Anyone else off for Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday next week for Dragon Boat Festival? If so, you reckon we could get some good individual attention at Da Tong there one of those nights?

Who'd be up for an excursion?


[QUOTE=Chin Mann]Just came back from SH. Had very good time at the Tong Mill, look like replacement of Tong Ren Lu. Many bars from there are now here. Can recommend Libido, Club LA, Coyote Ugly, Mayflower, and a new disco with dancing (forgot name). But not many folks there, so every visitor gets a good treatment.

Expo is also interesting to visit as there are most of the time half million of visitors almost every day. If you enjoy standing 2 to 4 or sometimes 8 hours for seeing some pavillions inside it is a great experience.

Have fun[/QUOTE]

Hi Folks,

Just a little sharing of my last couple trips to Shanghai during Expo. Went to a Sauna recommended by a Chinese friend as to have excellent services!. To my disappointment, and due to Expo crack downs, the service was indeed excellent, meaning a great massage, but nothing else. So for next trip I decided to visit a couple of the bars so much talked about in this forum. Malone's on a wed. Night, a few local talent, about 6's and 7's, a tall beauty though, but seems to much into the biz so decided to move to close by Manhattan. Wow quite a difference, the place was packed with talent, Philipino, Vietnam, and some Chinese. At the bar counter started rubbing arms with a petite beauty, turn out to be from Vietnam. Settled the deal and off we go, in taxi long french kissing and rubbing. At my place immediately hit the shower, and came back fresh and naked. Nice BJ skills with no plastic in between my boy and her lips, beautiful hard pointing nipples. No rush, good turning and turning for about 1. 5 hours. Damage 900 plus taxi money, I know is steep in China, but is Expo time so expect the demand/offer to push prices up. Good experience though overall, but got a little sick of her broken inlgich.

Hi guys, just continuing with my sharing of bar experience in Shg. Went back to Manhattan on a Sat. night. Again plenty of foreign and local talent. Spotted a local goddess, but been around mongering in China I dismissed the idea of talking to her, since usually these talents are overpriced and under performers. Just to my surprise tough, she approached me and stand next to me for a good few minutes, I pretended not to notice her but she gave me a smile, and that was it guys. Next I have agreed to a all niter for 1500, she spoke decent English, very elegant a 9 face, 7.5 body and friendly enough. In cab big french kissing had the female taxi driver uneasy. At the hotel shower and a clean BJ well performed and no rush at all, also some deep kissing on my part make her very wet so she urges me to f***, nice smooth skin, shiny long black hair on my white hotel sheets, I was in heaven and make me felt like she was too. Full service with rimming and several positions, both went to sleep for about 5 hours and then a goooood morning kiss that drove me nuts again. To make the story shorter, spend the weekend with her, bought her a pair of shoes and couple dinners and lunches. To my sadness we parted ways, I needed to work, aagghh!, but we sms each other for five days now. Can't wait to go back to Shanghai. If you guys find her, treat her well she is really a very nice girl. Probably my best GFE with a Chinese girl for a long long time.

[QUOTE=Chin Mann]Just came back from SH. Had very good time at the Tong Mill, look like replacement of Tong Ren Lu. Many bars from there are now here. Can recommend Libido, Club LA, Coyote Ugly, Mayflower, and a new disco with dancing (forgot name). But not many folks there, so every visitor gets a good treatment.

Expo is also interesting to visit as there are most of the time half million of visitors almost every day. If you enjoy standing 2 to 4 or sometimes 8 hours for seeing some pavillions inside it is a great experience.

Have fun[/QUOTE]How about a bit more details?

Very often, those bars are named as "Girls bar", so am i right that girls there are supposed for taking out? How about the average pricing ?

Hi all,

Any latest update on G18, Sacrosa and others??? Have these places totally closed down or are operating at a low profile??

How are outcall services in Shanghai? Is it safe to take girls to your hotel rooms or there are issues with that as well due to the EXPO crackdowns?

I would be visiting Shanghai towards end of June and have been following this thread for a few days now.

[QUOTE=Indianmale]Hi all,

Any latest update on G18, Sacrosa and others??? Have these places totally closed down or are operating at a low profile??

How are outcall services in Shanghai? Is it safe to take girls to your hotel rooms or there are issues with that as well due to the EXPO crackdowns?

I would be visiting Shanghai towards end of June and have been following this thread for a few days now.[/QUOTE]Seems operating in a low profile.

I just leave Shanghai days ago.

Hey all:

I know many bros use dateinasia.com to meet potentials, but be careful of these two nuisances:

Megei, a tiny porcelain-skinned looker from Fujian ([url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=0e7a8b6e-dd2e-44ba-acf7-e2306a51bbbf[/url])

Sunshine99, a silly touchy-feely hardbody from Hunan ([url]http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=8cbfdfe4-6460-449c-bc34-b62fa40b21cf[/url])

These gals are partners.

Their 'job' is to get you to follow/meet them at a place called Harmony Bar on Xinfu Lu. (across the street from lOgO) There, the tsingtao is 45 and mysterious drinks are purchased for every Chinese in the place.

Megei got me there about a year ago and I only purchased one tsingtao before I realized what was going on. She then said she was looking for true love but used her friend "Sunshine" to test guys - if they went for the younger fitter one, then they were bad bad mans!

Sunshine contacted me tonight and we met. I did not remember her till she said "My friend wants me to go to her bar to talk to her." Then old Ira put two and two together.. This 22 year old goddess is chasing fat old me based on a website exchange? Yeah right.

You will want them, you cannot have them. They cannot be purchased. Besides, they like the little hustle.

Damn nice looking though.

Caveat Emptor.

I am considering a career move to Shanghai.

My question is are there Caucasian girls available for pay for play in Shanghai?

Hi guys,

This weekend all wellknown place open.

I visited G, S and Happy. No problem and good service. Try nr 50 in Happy G. She is a bit older but speaks Uk and will eat you alive.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006]I am considering a career move to Shanghai.

My question is are there Caucasian girls available for pay for play in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]
Just curious - but why would you want to order a McDonald's hamburger if you're at Morton's?

And will need to pay a heckuva lot more for it than if you ordered the best Prime grade steak there.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Just curious - but why would you want to order a McDonald's hamburger if you're at Morton's?

And will need to pay a heckuva lot more for it than if you ordered the best Prime grade steak there.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Seaj,

Some of us like Hamburger better than steak, I like China doll instead of White girl I am tired of it too much steak in the US, don't think there are any Morton in Shanghai, just Ruth Chris and Hooter.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Just curious - but why would you want to order a McDonald's hamburger if you're at Morton's?

And will need to pay a heckuva lot more for it than if you ordered the best Prime grade steak there.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]

Some people do not like Asian Women, some others want to try something different after months in China.

There is some Caucasian, quite expensive. You can go try Mint, around the DJ. I am sure must be other places, but with my wife staying in SH, I cannot check until mid July.

[QUOTE=Cure For Pain]Hi guys,

This weekend all wellknown place open.

I visited G, S and Happy. No problem and good service. Try nr 50 in Happy G. She is a bit older but speaks Uk and will eat you alive.

Cheers[/QUOTE]How about the pricing for S?

Never been S , and do they (G and S) offer pretty the same?

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Seaj,

Some of us like Hamburger better than steak, I like China doll instead of White girl I am tired of it too much steak in the US, don't think there are any Morton in Shanghai, just Ruth Chris and Hooter.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]Not that is makes a difference, but actually, there is a Morton's opening in Shanghai. In Pudong. Sometime this month.

Just back from a weekend in Shanghai, stayed at the Grand hyatt in Pudong and check some saunas in the area.

The best and newest one is the Baoan Hotel sauna, (800 dongfang Road pudong)

The comfort and decore is way above all other places. The service is very good and waiting area is very pleasent.

We did not get a line to choose for, but the talent waiting in the rooms were

Great and ready.

It was un rushed full service and worth the high price of Y900.

Recently spent a few nights in Shanghai, so here is my contribution to this worthy cause.

Having come recently from Macau, I felt less need of the sauna experience, and decided to taste the bar scene. Not too interested in paying for expensive girl bar drinks, after doing due diligence and RTFF extensively, I decided the area around Tongren was to my taste, especially Manhattan and Judy's.

First, directions. Lots of references to Tongren, but it took me a while to realize this is a name for a relatively small street. It runs north-south and intersects with Nanjing Rd west. Both bars, as well as others are very close to that intersection, so having a taxi drop you there is plausible - I found that taxis did understand me (with about three lines of Chinese under my belt) when I said I wanted to go to Nanjing Xi Lu and Tongren Lu. When you get there, looking south from the intersection, Judy's is visible in about a half block. Looking north from the intersection on Tongren, Malone's is about the same distance from the intersection. If you walk past Malone's from there, turn right at the next street (Nanyang Lu) Manhattan's is about 100 meters on the left on that block. There are a number of other bars in the area, but I didn't try them - some are obviously girly bars (i.e., the job of the girls is to get you to buy them drinks - whether take out of girls is possible is less clear to me). It is also possible to walk to this intersection from the Nanjing West metro station, which is a bit further up Nanjing Lu (west, I think, but confirm on your map).

First Malone's - a good place for a western meal if you're craving that, also lots of screens for viewing sports (gets crowded during a big event like the World Cup) and sometimes has a live band that is fairly decent (I think Filipino). Downstairs bar seemed to have some working girls looking to hook up, but it is mixed in with a lot of other activity (couples, groups just out for a good time). I got there about 9:30 on a Saturday evening during a big World Cup game, and the place was packed. Found a table upstairs for a meal, and enjoyed the band for a while after the game ended. Left around 10:30 and headed for Judy's, which was pretty empty; walked over to Manhattan's and found things about the same. So I decided to get a legit massage back near my hotel (Howard Johnson All Suites - about 5 minutes by taxi at night when traffic was low) and return later when the action was better. Massage was had at Maple/Phoenix spa - about a block west of the hotel. Highly recommended for entirely legit body or foot massages.

Returned to Manhattan's at 12:30, and could barely get in the door. Ratio of women to men was at least 3 to 1, maybe higher. Women seemed to mostly be Vietnamese or Filipinas. Some very nice looking ones indeed, and not the mixed scene you see at Malone's - just about everyone here was on the make. It was a bit daunting, frankly, since I would have to squeeze in to even find a spot to get a drink at. Stayed for a few minutes and decided to check out Judy's instead.

Walked over to Judy's... by the way, when you walk around this area at night, you will be offered streetwalker's up and down the street. I must have had 5 offers in the two block walk between Judy's and Manhattan. They would start at 400 or 500, but if you hesitated, the price came down. A number were willing to go for 200, including one who offered anal for that price (somehow that seemed a bit scary).

Avoided these temptations (some were, some were not tempting), and got to Judy's. The scene was quite lively there as well, but not as crowded as Manhattan's. Found a spot at the bar, and soon realized that there were quite a few lovely ladies here as well - a somewhat more mixed group of Vietnamese and Filipinas as well as some African women and others I not not where from mixed in. One interesting difference between Manhattan's and Judy's - at Judy's there are dancers who perform - behind the bar in groups of 1 to 3, and off to one side with a hanging rope routine. Both were pretty sexy and fun. There is also a large projector screen opposite the bar that shows sports or music videos.

Before long I found a Vietnamese woman to my liking and a slight nod and smile in her direction brought her sexy dancing over to me. The rest is usual stuff - after a drink together, we negotiated a price (she started at 1500, but we went for 1000 LT). Back to my hotel in a cab and had a very nice experience with May.

Next night I decided to do the same thing, but adjusting for time issues, I ended up at Manhattan's around 11:00, when the girls were starting to arrive. Forvthe next half hour, I and about 6 other guys had the bar to ourselves and about 20-30 girls, some really attractive ones at that. Wanted to take my time, as this was my last night in Shanghai and wanted to pick well. Spent some time drinking, meeting some other guys to chat, and enjoying the band (though not as good as the band at Malone's) and soon enough, the bar was pretty full again. Somehow, I didn;t see the thing that just caught my eye and said this is it, so I walked over to Judy's again. Same scene there as the previous evening, though May was nowhere to be seen. I found another girl soon enough,and we headed back to my hotel. She spoke little English, but it was enough; her friend wanted to come along and help translate, but I saw scam emerging there and offered to take the one or none. We went and all was well.

Some guys may not know that the girls here work for the bars - and will try to get you to buy them drinks for which they get some commission, but I did not find it the hard sell that you allegedly find in the girly bars. But they "work" there only in that sense - there is no barfining like you find in Thailand. The scene reminded me more of a higher class version of Thermae Cafe or Biergarten in Bangkok, where freelancers go to get picked up. It's much nicer in these bars, though, but otherwise the scene is similar.

Also, I went into the New Lucky Garden Sauna next to the Howard Johnson All Suites, but decided against trying it when I received a somewhat gruff reception. The fellow emerged when I came in and led me to a screen which he pulled uo an English menu on, which had a suggested routine valued at 900+ RMB. I wanted to ask a question, but his response was "No English" and turned and walked away. O.k., so he couldn't help me, but I wasn't in the mood to take my chances, so I walked out. Someone else posted here that it is a good sauna, thought the girl was somewhat inexperienced.

Well, that's my report on Shanghai - hope it helps someone!

Stew2

If I have read the forum correctly for the past couple of months, the Shanghai expo has led to a crackdown on saunas, including the Shanghai Hotel Sauna. Do you think this will continue well into August? I need to know as I have to make hotel arrangements. I wanted to partake of a nice girl at the sauna before my trip to Beijing and then on south. Any information would be very much appreciated.

Djb,

Thank you for your report on the Baoan Sauna. I will be staying at the Sheraton which is near the Baoan Hotel, so I would like to ask you some questions.

1. What time does it open/close?
2. Do you get FS and BBBJ or just a massage and HJ?
3. How long do you get for 900 Yuan?
4. If there was no line-up, how do you pick the girl or do you get to pick?
5. Do they speak English?
6. On a scale of 1-10, how would you rate the looks, body, attitude and service of the girls?
7. Is there anyone in particular you would recommend?
8. In making the rounds, did you notice if the Sheraton had a sauna?

Thank you for any information you are willing to share.

Canyon

[QUOTE=Stew2]

Well, that's my report on Shanghai - hope it helps someone!

Stew2[/QUOTE]
Thanks for your informative contribution Stew2. I ain't much into sauna's and other mechanical stuff neither. But everyone his own.
Will check out Manhattan, Malones and Judy soon too when I arrive in SH.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Seaj,

Some of us like Hamburger better than steak, I like China doll instead of White girl I am tired of it too much steak in the US, don't think there are any Morton in Shanghai, just Ruth Chris and Hooter.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]
errrr.... why am I not surprised that you prefer hamburgers over steaks??

LOL!!

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Djb3737]Just back from a weekend in Shanghai, stayed at the Grand hyatt in Pudong and check some saunas in the area.

The best and newest one is the Baoan Hotel sauna, (800 dongfang Road pudong)

The comfort and decore is way above all other places. The service is very good and waiting area is very pleasent.

We did not get a line to choose for, but the talent waiting in the rooms were

Great and ready.

It was un rushed full service and worth the high price of Y900.[/QUOTE]

Hi, thanks for your report. I recalled someone wrote about Baoan about a year ago. Gave it a really low mark. Does it still offer soapie? How much time for that 900RMB?

To answer some questions.

The ladies did not have numbers, you can ask for another if you do not like what you see, but no guarantee the next will be better.

We were 2 and both were happy with what we got.

It is a full service with the "fire-ice" treatment, last more then an hour without rush.

It is a real 5 star place, clean and Hi tech.

Rooms are nice but no red ropes or ball etc. Just and old fasion GFE treat.

Open from afternoon to late, some English but it was not nessesary.

Djb,

Thank you for the information. The Baoan Hotel Sauna sounds very nice. My only concern is that you can't see who is available, then pick one. It seems as if it would be quite awkward to keep sending back, maybe five or six girls, before you found a good one. Is there any way to request a viewing of all the girls available before picking one?

Canyon

[QUOTE=Canyon]Djb,

Thank you for the information. The Baoan Hotel Sauna sounds very nice. My only concern is that you can't see who is available, then pick one. It seems as if it would be quite awkward to keep sending back, maybe five or six girls, before you found a good one. Is there any way to request a viewing of all the girls available before picking one?

Canyon[/QUOTE]Quite agreed for such high price "Y900", seems the Baoan management should follow their competitors to have a line up (or even fishbowl).

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite – 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road – this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.[/QUOTE]Hey mate, awesome post.

I tried searching google for Heting Elite sauna because i want to find the chinese name to give the Taxi driver.

Can anyone help ?

Thanks

At the Tong Mill there is a new Chinese club. Unfortunatly I don't know the name. But it is easy to find because there is only one. I like this kind of club, because nearly no foreigners so far. The have very beautiful staff and also nice dancers. A good place to warm up.

At one side of this club there is a row of nice girls. You can somehow book this girls. From time to time a bunch of girls is brought to some table and the guys at the table can choose some girl. Then this girl sits down and plays dice games with the guys. I have no glue about the price and whether you get even more if you want.

In this club I met a Chinese girl from Hunan. She works as a restaurant manager in Shanghai and told me she wants to add some monay to her salery. So I took her home and had a good night. She stayed until 1pm. We even went out for a common lunch. She asked for 1000RMB for that night. This was one month ago. Meanwhile we are friends and I don't have to pay anymore. We meet at some club, have a couple of drinks an then she goes home with me an stays until she has to go to work the next day.

I will definitly go to more Chinese clubs in the future. There are so many Chinese girls which you can convince to have sex with you. And this is much better than just to pick up a hooker.

[QUOTE=Peterpack]Hey mate, awesome post.

I tried searching google for Heting Elite sauna because i want to find the chinese name to give the Taxi driver.

Can anyone help ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I visited this place and wrote the first report on it on March 1, 2009.

Followed that report with this post which contains a copy of the business card and outside photo of the building.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=853782&postcount=225[/url]

[QUOTE=Peterpack]Hey mate, awesome post.

I tried searching google for Heting Elite sauna because i want to find the chinese name to give the Taxi driver.

Can anyone help ?

Thanks[/QUOTE]The chinese name is 和庭精英桑拿会所.

The address in Chinese is 四平路777号3楼 (3rd floor, 777 Siping Road).

You can see the full info with map here : [url]http://www.ddmap.com/map/21/point-708215-%BA%CD%CD%A5-.htm[/url]

Found 999 without any problem, one guy speaks minimal English, closed today and he states for another 10 days. Not sure if really closed or just because I am not a regular.

Easy to find with directions in the forum. Sorry to the regulars, just a rehash of the routine you know. Up to 5th floor, stuff into locker and ushered to room for drink and confirmation of price. Fishbowl with 12-15, just a few I liked but then you only need one. Picked a cutie in a short plaid skirt. Placed me in our room and then returned with a slender friend for a two on one shower and clean up. The second one gave a short BBBJ and was very pleasant when I rejected the request for two girls.

Soapie on front and back, over to the bed for cat bath, AR and BBBJ. Allowed exploration of both holes with fingers and finished in CG and mish. She practiced all of the little English she knew and gave many giggles and smiles throughout. Nice GFE. 23 y/o from Shandong.

Enjoyed my first Shanghai fun but 880 for 90 minutes will mean I will look for other fun too.

Cal8

[QUOTE=California8]Easy to find with directions in the forum. Sorry to the regulars, just a rehash of the routine you know. Up to 5th floor, stuff into locker and ushered to room for drink and confirmation of price. Fishbowl with 12-15, just a few I liked but then you only need one. Picked a cutie in a short plaid skirt. Placed me in our room and then returned with a slender friend for a two on one shower and clean up. The second one gave a short BBBJ and was very pleasant when I rejected the request for two girls.

Soapie on front and back, over to the bed for cat bath, AR and BBBJ. Allowed exploration of both holes with fingers and finished in CG and mish. She practiced all of the little English she knew and gave many giggles and smiles throughout. Nice GFE. 23 y/o from Shandong.

Enjoyed my first Shanghai fun but 880 for 90 minutes will mean I will look for other fun too.

Cal8[/QUOTE]Cal8, do you remember what was the number of the girl you picked.

Hi guys,

I finally did it!

. I really checked the whole thread

Thanks to all for the hard work on getting all these informations here.

I promise, when I am done there in Shanghai will put in detailed

Report of my new experiences.

Can't wait to get there.

Yours

SunShine

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]Cal8, do you remember what was the number of the girl you picked.[/QUOTE]

#56, excellent service so the RMB880 is just up there for going regularly.

Cal8

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I didn't feel like crossing the river and wanted to try someplace a little different and thought these places sounded interesting. First the address is spot on...Thanks!
Started at the Office about 8:00, as mentioned they have a good happy hour and I wound up getting a sandwhich also. The wait staff is cute and there were 3-4 girls in cute civilian clothes that I suspect were there to keep one drinking. I talked to one and she wanted to go play some pool , but I wasn't interested and didn't want to wait for the band to start. I was probably one of 15 customers max on a Wed. night. Walked over to Starlight and met Selena, the manager. There were about 6 gals in Starlight "entertaining" the customers and playing pool, etc. The deal is they try to get you to bye drinks at about 45 RMB a piece. I played some dice and talked a little to Selena. I think at least a few of the girls are from the "drink" bars that closed in Tongren, so they are "seasoned". I inquired about options, and was told that there are a few, but for the most part it is just drink, squeeze, and play pool. One or two of the girls are cute and they all seemed to have good personalities. I enjoyed talking to Selena, but turned her loosed when the number of clients exceeded the number of girls, so that she could do the "manager" thing.
Went back to Office and the band was going on break, but it was still pretty empty. I didn't try "Ricky's" or the massage place, but did go to Amor massage across the street from the Eton Hotel. This was my third visit here and have enjoyed the service every time. The only thing is they always "almost finish" the hour massage and then ask you if you want another 30 mins or hour.....well of course you do. I had a coupon, but it is only good with 2 hr massage and I wound up with 90 mins.
I think I will go back to Office and Starlight, just to see if it picks up and because I stay in Pudong, it is something different and closer to my hotel, but nowhere near as much fun as Manhattan or Malone's[/QUOTE]

I spent an interesting few hours in that complex last Saturday night. I started with a beer in the Office, but the atmosphere was quite dull, the customers looked pretty gloomy and none of the staff seemed interested in even casual chat. I didn’t actually finish my beer, decided to spend the time somewhere else and walked across to the Starlight. They had a few customers at the table outside and tried very hard to make me sit inside – I never did work out why. I had a couple of beers and chatted to one or two of the girls, who were pleasant enough without being pushy for drinks or any other services.
Very different at the GoGo which was full of girls, some very attractive and all eager to sit with me and hear my fascinating life story and insights on the world. Eager to accept drinks too, but very subtly done, I hardly noticed my wallet melting away as the evening went on. They did the usual routines – Connect 4, loser buys the shots – here comes my friend, can she have a drink too…I’m fairly well accustomed to the process, but was still quite impressed with the size of the bill. It probably included a fee for the two minute gropery at a side table (can’t believe there was any non-financial reason for enticing me there, I’m not that attractive to a sober person), which I terminated because it wasn’t going to achieve the purpose of the visit.
I then went back to the Starlight for a more restful and reflective beer, and philosophical chat with one of the girls. She, like all the others, was attractive but unavailable – can’t leave work before closing time. Having seen how much money they could extract from me in a couple of hours I tend to believe the management would want them doing that rather than rushing off in a taxi with a customer.
So my conclusion was that the complex is good for some casual company, can get very expensive very fast, and is not likely to lead to a significant encounter. (I did not see any sign of independent ladies). Smarter, more qualified colleagues may find otherwise, of course.

I stumbled across two BBS near the Damuquiao Metro Station (no detailed location instructions in open forum). 1-2-3 for HJ-BJ-FS and did not negotiate. Two rooms in back, not for everyone. About 6 gals, dressed nicely and half were cute. There at 19:00 so gals eating and then doing makeup on my way out. CBJ and she really earned her keep, dress up and panties off. Kept trying to upsell to FS or two gals.

Cal8

[QUOTE=Ringer5]I spent an interesting few hours in that complex last Saturday night. I started with a beer in the Office, but the atmosphere was quite dull, the customers looked pretty gloomy and none of the staff seemed interested in even casual chat. I didn’t actually finish my beer, decided to spend the time somewhere else and walked across to the Starlight.

So my conclusion was that the complex is good for some casual company, can get very expensive very fast, and is not likely to lead to a significant encounter. (I did not see any sign of independent ladies). Smarter, more qualified colleagues may find otherwise, of course.[/QUOTE]But all you needed to do was go out the front door of The Office and straight across to the FULL SERVICE SAUNA. It's not a simple massage joint. "968 Sauna Club" will lighten your wallet by about 650RMB but you will get what you want. Some of the girls there are quite good. The mamasan usually does a good job in setting things up. Some of the Chongqing girls there will fuck you until you can't walk. That area has a hotel nearby along with a large housing complex so business is steady with lots of local customers. But foreigners are welcomed. You can search the forum for 968 and you'll find a report I wrote. To be sure, it's no Sacrosa, Heting, or Sofitel (yes the Sofitel in Pudong has a Sauna on the right side of the building) but it gets the job done if you're in the area of The Office.

Captainb,

In regards to the photos of rails on the balcony you posted, those things really are for drying clothes. I had them in my former apartment, and I really have doubts as to whether it. An support the weight of a person, especially one who is moving around. As a matter of fact, I recall the bars breaking a couple times and having to get them replaced.

[QUOTE=California8]Easy to find with directions in the forum. Sorry to the regulars, just a rehash of the routine you know. Up to 5th floor, stuff into locker and ushered to room for drink and confirmation of price. Fishbowl with 12-15, just a few I liked but then you only need one. Picked a cutie in a short plaid skirt. Placed me in our room and then returned with a slender friend for a two on one shower and clean up. The second one gave a short BBBJ and was very pleasant when I rejected the request for two girls.

Cal8[/QUOTE]A few weeks ago, when I went to 18 for a couple of times, I didn't got "two on one shower". Are you requesting that, or as a complimentary service?

[QUOTE=Moody]Captainb,

In regards to the photos of rails on the balcony you posted, those things really are for drying clothes. I had them in my former apartment, and I really have doubts as to whether it. An support the weight of a person, especially one who is moving around. As a matter of fact, I recall the bars breaking a couple times and having to get them replaced.[/QUOTE]

Wrong, they are for a live "Red Robe" act for Shanghainese exhibitionists, and - as we all know - Chinese do simply do love to perform those acts in public, therefore nearly all appartments in Shanghai are equipped with such rails.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]Wrong, they are for a live "Red Robe" act for Shanghainese exhibitionists, and - as we all know - Chinese do simply do love to perform those acts in public, therefore nearly all appartments in Shanghai are equipped with such rails.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

Levitian,

Hahahaha...you will be confusing newbies when they read this. Have lived here for 3.5years, and I've never seen locals performing with such rails before. Btw, where do you find exhibitionists in Shanghai?

you need to explore your "home" Hoeman

red rope is a Shanghai speciality

[QUOTE=Hoeman]Levitian,
Btw, where do you find exhibitionists in Shanghai?[/QUOTE]

EVERYWHERE! .... ;-)

Levitian

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]If I have read the forum correctly for the past couple of months, the Shanghai expo has led to a crackdown on saunas, including the Shanghai Hotel Sauna. Do you think this will continue well into August? I need to know as I have to make hotel arrangements. I wanted to partake of a nice girl at the sauna before my trip to Beijing and then on south. Any information would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]It is still open. Was there and it was business more or less as usual: There was only 6 in the lineup but the quality seemed very good. It was a little harder than usual to figure out the bodies of the girls as they were now dressed in some bulky sweatsuits rather than their earlier skimpy outfits, but overall I would rank 5 of them at 8, where I earlier would say the average was about 7, with one or two 9's thrown in earlier.

The service was significantly more rushed than earlier years. It was still good but the full cat bath and all that routine had been cut down drastically. The girl told me that there were frequent expo crackdowns and all people were nervous. Not only LE but also fire and other government entities inspection.

I would still come back for 650 but the mind-blowing experiences of the past are just that, a thing of the past until the crackdowns end.

Hi,

I have RTFF but could not get the clear answer.

I will be staying in Zhongshan park and wanted to get some advice on where do you recommend which might be walking distance (or close by) that I go to pick up someone for the night?

Manhattan seems 6 km away and I am not sure if there are any other places closeby to Renessiance Hotel in Zhongshan park? Any recommended BBS closeby?

Thanks in advance

Cheers,

Sam

After seeing some positive reports on the sauna 1856 Nanjing Xi Lu, I decided to give it a shot (or two shots hopefully). It's tucked behind the Shanghai No. 1 restaurant.

Given the expo period I was quite uncertain whether they'd still be open since they have been under "renovations". Walked into the drive-in to the carpark and an attendant came up to me. I asked if it was open and he said yes, and had a brief chat with him asking me where I was from and stuff, possibly checking me out in case. I asked if the crackdowns had hit them since the last time I popped into Shanghai Hotel they were only offering BJ and HJs but he said, no they're pretty safe.

He then ushered me into the lift and up I went to the 6th floor. Which was strange as some reports I read said that I was go to the 5th floor and then be ushered through some arcade and onto the the 6th floor.

Anyhoo, on the 6th floor, did the usual changing of clothes and went into a waiting room. Then the mamasan came in but instead of ushering me to a line-up she asked me a couple of questions like how come my Chinese was so good (I'm asian but Chinese isn't my forte), was this my first time here, oh you read it on the internet, do you know the process inside, do you know how much it is; obviously trying to make sure that I wasn't LE.

I apparently failed her test as she went out and 5 mins later came in to say that oh, she is the new manager and what I described was under the old manager and that they now offered only foot massage etc. It was obvious that they are still full service after my chat with the guard downstairs earlier but I guess they rather play it safe.

Would be good if someone who has visited before share some answers to the questions above so no one else would be turned out.

Disappointed I headed to G18 down the road. Easier time here, ushered directly into the lift, changed clothes and then sent to a line-up of 12 girls with an average quality of 7. Chose number #7 who had an amazing figure. Her tits were a magnificent and au naturel 32FF (which meant, given gravity, wasn't perky) yet she was skinny all over. She must have drunk too much water from the Yellow River to have mutated into something this freakishly beautiful. Had #20 come in for the free bath and BBBJ but figured that I wouldn't be able to pay the melons the proper attention they deserved and sent her out.

In between the bath I had a chat with #7 and apparently she had a boyfriend so perhaps her service wasn't great. Yet with tits like that, it was worth the 880RMB just to get my paws on it. Doubt I'll ever see something that bountiful on a slim girl again.

Here's the stats

#7

Name: Wang something something

Hometown: Shandong

Bath: 9. Her tits are the perfect sponge for any bath really

BBBJ. 6. Nice suction but didn't go too deep which is what I like

AR. 3 (she spent only 3 minutes on this)

FS. 6. Pumped her pretty long and hard (just to see the tits quiver really) and she took it like a champ. But again, didn't feel she was into it.

GFE. 7. Made a lot of small talk and cuddled some but again felt her heart was somewhere else.

Hope someone could help with the 1856 sauna questions before I go back to Beijing on Saturday.

Nice try, Officer


[QUOTE=Sirchandler]Hi all I have a few questions hopefully someone here can help out with. I have a colombian girlfriend who is heading to Shanghai soon and she wants to know some names of discos/bars/clubs etc where she can go for work. She knows about Zapatas and Mexicanas but was hoping to hear of more places. Also if anyone can point me in the direction of cheap hotels/appts in the neighbourhood I would greatly appreciate it!

Thanks in advance,

SC[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pete Yim]A few weeks ago, when I went to 18 for a couple of times, I didn't got "two on one shower". Are you requesting that, or as a complimentary service?[/QUOTE]

No special request, in some other posts I have read 2 on 1 for shower. See recent post #2236 which confirms.

Cal8

Search '1277' for a more complete report than I will write.

This place is busy, guys coming and going in the locker room, hallways and fishbowl viewing. I was shown right to the fishbowl and missed the sitting room before. Good variety and selection of gals. #985 and her big eyes was the one for me, 20 y/o from Sichuan. Service as to be expected with well trained gals for all services including the red rope BJ.

After the deed, shown to the sitting room and served a beer. Three different gals came by to ask if massage or ear cleaning desired, actually all were pretty in their qi pao. After locker room, RMB680 at the front and no one asked for tips the whole time and there are numerous locker room guys.

I will return.
Cal8

Went to my usual sauna haunt for FS. Had myself a Sichuan gal. Service is the standard Catbath, AR, BBBJ and FS (I usually get to do 2 shots in 90mins). Very GFE. Her number is 825. I have a few regulars which I book when I am there. The other numbers are 805 (Hainan), 810 (Heilongjiang) and 808 (Shanxi). The sauna is located in Puxi, Hongqiao area. Damage is RMB680.
With an extra RMB80, you can get another gal to give you a BBBJ with her clothes on, whilst the 1st gal does the catbath. YMMV on whether the 2nd gal will let you fondle her tits.
For 2 gals (shuangfei), you pay extra RMB580, on top of the RMB680.

For location details, please PM me.

Note: Bcos of World Expo, the gals are being very careful - they will clear out the used condom once FS is completed. Then, they return to the room to give you a massage rubdown. For 2nd round, you need to request and the gal goes out to get another condom.


Hoeman...

I went to see my regular girl at the sauna yesterday afternoon. We were about 1/3 of the way through our routine when the lights blinked on and off several times. Hell my mind was someplace else. She gets up hands me my shorts and leads me out. One of the handlers motions for me to follow him to a waiting room, which I do. I sit down. I sms the girl. She says wait.! 5 minutes later they lead me back to the girl and we finish. I'm thinking that this is what is called a raid. So it wasn't a big deal in this case. I've been fucking this girl for over a year. We celebrated her 20th birthday last fall. She's going home next month. Damn, one of the best in the business.

I will reply to Senior Members PM's.

[QUOTE=Sammm]Hi,

I have RTFF but could not get the clear answer.

I will be staying in Zhongshan park and wanted to get some advice on where do you recommend which might be walking distance (or close by) that I go to pick up someone for the night?

Manhattan seems 6 km away and I am not sure if there are any other places closeby to Renessiance Hotel in Zhongshan park? Any recommended BBS closeby?

Thanks in advance

Cheers,

Sam[/QUOTE]

Try Loushanguan Road. It is the next subway station from ZhongShan Park. I stay around that area, and sometimes go to one of the BBS for HJ or BBBJ. As for take-out service, not too sure. You will have to negotiate for takeout.
Do note the BBS are located some distance apart from one another, so you may want to recce. The BBS I am referring to is on Loushanguan Rd, when you walk out from subway, walk towards the direction of Changning Rd. You will see a lot of eating places. WHen you come to a NanHua hotpot restaurant, you can see the BBS across the street.

Hope the above helps.

Hoeman...

Used to frequent a sauna on Pudong side. Remember vaguely that someone posted earlier. It is located behind JinJiang Sofitel in Pudong. Name is Dream Spa. Had a regular there some time back. She is from Inner Mongolia. Really GFE. I pick her up after work and we go back to my place for FUN on a regular basis. Didn't have to pay her when we have FUN at my place or hers. Go for karaoke with her and her girlfriends too. When she is not in town, I will have fun with one of her girlfriends from Dongbei (North-East).

I do make it a point to book her when I am at the spa. The thing is when you book the girls at the reception, they get paid more money per client when they hit their quotas of min 12 bookings a month. Booking means being picked not from line-up.

Love the place bcos it is somewhat secluded and out of the way. Damage is RMB760. I sually get 2 -3 shots each time I go.

Hoeman...

Thank you for this.

I'm residing in Beijing but will go to Shanghai for the expo very very soon.

I just have some questions:

1. Are these the best places in Shanghai to get a FS? Or are there more?

2. How much is the average rate for 2 pops? I always see 800-900 which is kinda steep for me, are there saunas where I can get by with 500-600?

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.

Hopefully this will therefore be useful.

A couple of points from the outset.

1 – I had no problem accessing ISG from my hotel.

2 – I took a girl back one night, getting to the hotel at about 1am. There was no need to register the girl. I just walked in holding her hand and went straight to the elevator. Whilst I cannot pretend to be experienced in Shanghai, the sex trade is an important part of the Chinese economy and hotel staff probably do not care. It may be different in lower end hotels, but I was in a 5 star hotel and had no problems.

3 – I only visited Heting Elite and a couple of bars, namely Malones and Manhattan although I have put some additional information in my report as I had done the research.

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite – 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road – this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.

Golden 18 (G18) – corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu

Yu Ping – 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian – could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa – 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Tianhao – 978 Gu Mei Lu

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Bars

Manhattan – 154 Nan Yang Road. Great bar, filled with plenty of girls. Was fortunate enough to meet an American in Malones (see later) who suggested that I don't choose a girl from Malones until I have at least been to Manhattan – I am glad he did and I followed his advice.

Ended up taking a nice Vietnamese girl back to my hotel for RMB 1000. Had a great time and carried on with another session in the morning. She left at about 6am which was great as it allowed me to get some sleep as I had a meeting later that day

Judy's. 99-3 Xi Kang Lu – did not go here so can't comment.

Malones. Tongren Lu – walking distance from Malones – was not that busy – saw a lovely girl, looked to be Chinese, arranged to meet her later for RMB 1000 overnight – was just hedging my bets in case Manhattan was not as described by my new found American friend – I need not have worried.

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.

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[QUOTE=Hoeman]Try Loushanguan Road. It is the next subway station from ZhongShan Park. I stay around that area, and sometimes go to one of the BBS for HJ or BBBJ. As for take-out service, not too sure. You will have to negotiate for takeout.
Do note the BBS are located some distance apart from one another, so you may want to recce. The BBS I am referring to is on Loushanguan Rd, when you walk out from subway, walk towards the direction of Changning Rd. You will see a lot of eating places. WHen you come to a NanHua hotpot restaurant, you can see the BBS across the street.

Hope the above helps.

Hoeman...[/QUOTE]How about the pricing for the BBS?

Sorry, forgot if I read here of elsewhere about this place. Location details not on open forum.

Very nice place with normal preliminaries. Manager does not speak English except for 'make love massage'. He quoted 900 but I told him a friend told me 818 and he contemplated but agreed. He presented one gal and I turned her away, a few minutes later, there was a line up of 8 or so. I guess when they get someone new in the place, quote higher fee and no line up. No one struck me as obvious pick so I asked if any spoke English which I have never thought to do as usually my tongue is hanging out. He pointed two out to my surprise and I chose the cuter of the two and her English turned out to be minimal but more than welcomed.

Rooms are big and I noticed two differences from other saunas in town. Plenty of towels for drying off after she scrubs you and gives you the soapie massage. I usually am trying to dry off after the after the deed clean up and it is either a small hand towel or the towel I already used before the deed. And extra sets of slippers so I am not stepping into wet slippers after I dried my feet. I know, no one cares, sorry.

My gal was 20 from Guilin (#95) and provided great service with regular routines: soapie slide, cat bath, AR etc. She started with CG and I finished with mish. 60 minute session which is all I need at my age.

Back to private TV room to wind down with a cola then pay on the way out. Lots of staff and no requests for tips.

Cal8

[QUOTE=Pete Yim]How about the pricing for the BBS?[/QUOTE]

Hi Pete,

It's rmb130 for BBBJ or rmb100 for HJ. As for FS, I was quoted different prices on separate occassions - rmb230 and rmb260.

Hoeman...

Was at the Howard Johnson Allsuites on Yanan Xi Lu and tried the incall from the hotel spa (open till 2am which is always a good clue).

Fairly cute girl arrived, 7-8, but gave a fairly lacklustre massage. I hadn't mentioned anything else for the first 45 mins as I actually wanted a massage too but as she moved lower it became fairly obvious that more was on offer. She then offered (all in Chinese) a 'very nice' massage but wanted an extra 2500! Said no way so she replied with 'how much'. When I said 800 in total she said that the lowest she could possibly go was 2100 so that was that. Massage finished up fairly briskly after that. A great time was not had by all.

Guys,

I have just arrived in Shanghai, am staying at the KC Mandarin.

My plan is to hit Manhattans , Bar rouge and Glamour bar tonight and see whats available.

Will post my experiences tommorrow.

Rule number one is forget hotel massages unless otherwise reportedheede and especially of foreign fivestar hotels! Rule number two negotiateall servises requested with price beforehand. Rule number three read this forum

Fa[QUOTE=Flibble]Was at the Howard Johnson Allsuites on Yanan Xi Lu and tried the incall from the hotel spa (open till 2am which is always a good clue).

Fairly cute girl arrived, 7-8, but gave a fairly lacklustre massage. I hadn't mentioned anything else for the first 45 mins as I actually wanted a massage too but as she moved lower it became fairly obvious that more was on offer. She then offered (all in Chinese) a 'very nice' massage but wanted an extra 2500! Said no way so she replied with 'how much'. When I said 800 in total she said that the lowest she could possibly go was 2100 so that was that. Massage finished up fairly briskly after that. A great time was not had by all.[/QUOTE]

1) Yes and yes

2) Yes

and before you ask further read a little the answers are two pages away!

Fa[QUOTE=Greenarcher]Thank you for this.

I'm residing in Beijing but will go to Shanghai for the expo very very soon.

I just have some questions:

1. Are these the best places in Shanghai to get a FS? Or are there more?

2. How much is the average rate for 2 pops? I always see 800-900 which is kinda steep for me, are there saunas where I can get by with 500-600?[/QUOTE]

Wow you are the man. Regularily three pops in the one hour max they give you is an achievement!

Fa

[QUOTE=Hoeman]Used to frequent a sauna on Pudong side. Remember vaguely that someone posted earlier. It is located behind JinJiang Sofitel in Pudong. Name is Dream Spa. Had a regular there some time back. She is from Inner Mongolia. Really GFE. I pick her up after work and we go back to my place for FUN on a regular basis. Didn't have to pay her when we have FUN at my place or hers. Go for karaoke with her and her girlfriends too. When she is not in town, I will have fun with one of her girlfriends from Dongbei (North-East).

I do make it a point to book her when I am at the spa. The thing is when you book the girls at the reception, they get paid more money per client when they hit their quotas of min 12 bookings a month. Booking means being picked not from line-up.

Love the place bcos it is somewhat secluded and out of the way. Damage is RMB760. I sually get 2 -3 shots each time I go.

Hoeman...[/QUOTE]

Hi guys,

Here's my field report from last night, first time in Shanghai ever. Great great city, but boy is it hot! I'm from Australia and still found it very hot.

It's always interesting to read info and tips from forums and see how they compare with the actual reality. Thanks to the many posters who helped me have a really fun evening.

So I am staying at the JC Mandarin, I actually didn't book, I rocked up in Shanghai and just found a hotel near the action. I was close to staying at the Portman Ritz Carlton, but it was just a touch out of my price range.

I started the evening at 9. 30 checking out the KTV at the JC Mandarin. Very stylish place but there were 5 girls and no customers. I felt very uncomfortable and left shortly afterwards. Girls were decent looking enough but I wanted to check out the places I intended to check out. Had read enough warnings about the KTVs so was very wary.

Got a taxi to the Big bamboo, played some pool with some people at the bar and had a few drinks. It's a decent sports bar full of expats but to tell you the truth nothing special. However I will say, unlike Western bars, there is no problem getting drinks as there are many girls walking around willing to take your drink orders.

Then went to Manhattans. On the short walk to Manhattans was approached by a girl on the street. She was what I would call a lower level girl, not ugly, just lacked Polish. I told her no thanks. Manhattans is quite nice inside, much much smaller than I had pictured. There were ladies there and quite a few guys. Quite a few older guys. It is just so obvious what everyone is there for. Stayed for a little while but didn't see any girls I really fancied. Popped my head into Excalibur too, a few girls there, nothing amazing.

Then I got a taxi and went to Bar Rouge. Now I had carefully printed the names and address of every place I wanted to check out in English and Mandarin. Didn't help! My taxi driver still couldn't find Bar Rouge, he got me close and I had to ask my way to the place. I've found that several times in China. You can have an address nicely printed out in Mandarin but many taxi drivers lack a lot of location knowledge and they are very low tech taxis, no GPS or anything like that.

Anyway I got close to where I was told Bar Rouge was and saw some nice sorts go into a building so I followed them in. The building looked closed but you have to go round a corner to the lift and then Bar Rouge is on the 7th floor. There is no big flashing Bar Rouge sign outside the building (that I saw), it is quite a discrete club and entrance. Once you get out of the lift and go up the stairs into the club, then everything changes. It really is quite an amazing club. Undercover and open air section, the open air section looks right over the city and river, truly spectacular. Decor in the club is A1 and the house music was pretty good. Drinks not cheap but you expect that. Plenty of places to sit down or stand if you prefer. Now Bar Rouge has a proper aura for a nightclub unlike Manhattan so it's a bit like Vegas and Casino girls, you have to work to spot the working girls as there are many regular girls out with their friends. Some working girls are quite easy to spot, others a bit harder. They are all glamourous. It is really the top end of the market. Anyway I spent a few hours drinking, chatting with locals and having fun trying to spot the girls. I had read about high end Russians being at Bar Rouge and I'm sure there were some there but I had trouble spotting them. I got talking to these 3 glamour blondes who were from somewhere in Europe. They weren't working girls, had fun talking to them and if I was willing to put more effort in, I may have been able to work a freebie but I that wasn't what I was looking for. I wanted a certainty. Over the course of the night had quite a few asian (mix of Chinese, vietnamese etc) girls talk to me and subtley letting me know their availability and I did end up taking one home, 1100 for 3 hours. Not a bargain I know, but it suited me. I also had these two hot causasian girls smile at me a lot and I thought they may be working russians but I didn't have the bottle to approach them after my mix up with the other group of white girls before.

There are a few older guys there and the girls definitely gravitate towards the younger guys (of which I just about qualify). When they are talking to 40-50 year old guys, it is pretty obvious what is going on and they don't like that as much. You need to dress well for this place, that also helps get the girls to approach you.

Regardless of whether you want to punt or not, Bar Rouge IMHO is a must see nightclub. It really does have the wow factor and I have been clubbing all round the world including London, New York and Las Vegas.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Wow you are the man. Regularily three pops in the one hour max they give you is an achievement!

Fa[/QUOTE]

Well, the girl that gives me 3 pops is a regular; she likes me a lot, and we became good friends, almost to GF relationship. I was able to pick her up after work and we overnite at her place or mine for FS. She doesn't charge me a single cent when we do this.

Of cos, 3 pops at the sauna is not every time, cos dependent on my performance too. Plus, it's within the standard 90mins, plus this girl lets me stay 15mins longer.

As for 2 pops, it's pretty normal. You just gotta ask or tell upfront to the girl.

Hoeman

Was in Shanghai a few weeks ago for a weekend. Stayed at the Metropolis Hotel. Location is great, hotel is mediocre. Seems that all mid-range hotels are booked up, so your options these days, I'm assuming because of the Expo, is low budget or 5 star hotels. Anyways. Was going back to my room and was waiting at the elevator on the second floor across for the the salon. A girl working there asked me if I wanted a massage for 138 rmb. I agreed, and she told me a girl would come to my room. There was no choice, there were only 4 girls there, I think just the one was a WG The girl was there in 5mins, about a 5. 5-6, nice body but face was average. She started the whole massage routine then after a few minutes asked if I wanted sex. She started at 1, 000rmb, I refused and she went down to 800. Was very enthusiastic, not pushy, but seemed like she wanted it (or the money). I settled on a HJ for 200 and the few 1 rmb coins I had laying around. Job was ok, problem was I had passed a few massage places around peoples square and had 1 or 2 outgoing and prettier girls ask if I wanted a massage.

Girl finished and left, asking if I was around tomorrow. I showered, left some time later and headed to one of the massage places. I opted for the 800rmb, 2 hour massage. Girl was cute, great body, but it was as advertised. I got 800rmb massage (massage was ok) with a HJ at the end. They were closing, asked if the girl wanted to come back with me, and she agreed for 800rmb more for the night. Hotel staff stopped her coming in and just asked her for ID, so she returned to her work, got it and came back. In my room, I tried to make everything clear, and showed her a condom. She looked puzzled and seemed (or pretended) to not know what it is. I told her I didn't have the money and sent her on her way.

1 girl 5. 5-6 200+pocket change for HJ

1 girl 7-8 800 mediocre massage and HJ

Total 1, 000 for 2 HJ, FML I need to get better at this.

Stayed there back in August, only because I arrived I Pudong airport in the pm and I had an early flight out of Hongqiao airport back to the shitty corner of China that I live in. There is a massage/spa in the basement, I opted for the regular massage. Room had a bed, chair, plasma tv which had EPL matches on it at the time, clean and all. The woman was probably mid 40s, did a great massage and asked if I wanted a happy ending or FS. I asked for another girl, and was shown two. One was short, ok looking, the other was taller, much cuter, slim, and nice but small breasts. I opted for the taller one. She left, came back with the hot water, cold water, scope/listerine. Started off with a BBBJ, which was great. Then did a back hot water/cold water in the mouth thing, also very good. Then anal rimming, then FS in several positions. The whole time was unrushed. At the end she seemed liked it hurt, but for a short white guy with an average cock, perhaps it was an act to boost my ego and extract a tip. I forget the cost, I think maybe 800-900, for the massage + girl.

i disagree with almost every word in this post. i don't mean to say that it's not sincere, just that it is not good advice for most people. specifically:

1. manhattan is a large bar with a lot of girls. right now manhattan, judy's (sort of), and to some extent da tong are the only game in town as far as tourist punting. da tong can be a lot of fun in fact...but takes a bit of an adventurous soul i suppose.

2. bar rouge is a total poser place. the view is amazing, the prices are bad, the music sucks horribly, the service is worse, most of the clientele are the biggest posers in sh, and the bosses/owners are legendary assholes. rttf.

3. you can be 60 years old and pick up a chick in bar rouge if you wanna way over spend. the comments about age are completely off.... backwards in fact. but it won't be cheap for anyone, unless you are young and handsome and want a low class wanna be non-wg.

4. bar rouge girls are not high class. the non wg's may think they are, but they absolutely aren't. they wg's are the same as you'll see anywhere else, but charging a lot more. pretty much the worst scene imaginable in my view.

5. further to #4, if you like to punt, bar rouge is not the place. if you like to see pretentious sh nightlife, or just a great view and the most amazing outside bar/balcony (huge) in sh, then it's a good place, and can easily score a wg or nwg there (see conditions above). but for pure punting, it's a horrible choice.

sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in the cheerios of this well-intentioned post, and to each his own and all that nice stuff, but wanted to chime in with some reality here.

-b-

[quote=peterpack]hi guys,

here's my field report from last night, first time in shanghai ever. great great city, but boy is it hot! i'm from australia and still found it very hot.

it's always interesting to read info and tips from forums and see how they compare with the actual reality. thanks to the many posters who helped me have a really fun evening.

so i am staying at the jc mandarin, i actually didn't book, i rocked up in shanghai and just found a hotel near the action. i was close to staying at the portman ritz carlton, but it was just a touch out of my price range.

i started the evening at 9. 30 checking out the ktv at the jc mandarin. very stylish place but there were 5 girls and no customers. i felt very uncomfortable and left shortly afterwards. girls were decent looking enough but i wanted to check out the places i intended to check out. had read enough warnings about the ktvs so was very wary.

got a taxi to the big bamboo, played some pool with some people at the bar and had a few drinks. it's a decent sports bar full of expats but to tell you the truth nothing special. however i will say, unlike western bars, there is no problem getting drinks as there are many girls walking around willing to take your drink orders.

then went to manhattans. on the short walk to manhattans was approached by a girl on the street. she was what i would call a lower level girl, not ugly, just lacked polish. i told her no thanks. manhattans is quite nice inside, much much smaller than i had pictured. there were ladies there and quite a few guys. quite a few older guys. it is just so obvious what everyone is there for. stayed for a little while but didn't see any girls i really fancied. popped my head into excalibur too, a few girls there, nothing amazing.

then i got a taxi and went to bar rouge. now i had carefully printed the names and address of every place i wanted to check out in english and mandarin. didn't help! my taxi driver still couldn't find bar rouge, he got me close and i had to ask my way to the place. i've found that several times in china. you can have an address nicely printed out in mandarin but many taxi drivers lack a lot of location knowledge and they are very low tech taxis, no gps or anything like that.

anyway i got close to where i was told bar rouge was and saw some nice sorts go into a building so i followed them in. the building looked closed but you have to go round a corner to the lift and then bar rouge is on the 7th floor. there is no big flashing bar rouge sign outside the building (that i saw), it is quite a discrete club and entrance. once you get out of the lift and go up the stairs into the club, then everything changes. it really is quite an amazing club. undercover and open air section, the open air section looks right over the city and river, truly spectacular. decor in the club is a1 and the house music was pretty good. drinks not cheap but you expect that. plenty of places to sit down or stand if you prefer. now bar rouge has a proper aura for a nightclub unlike manhattan so it's a bit like vegas and casino girls, you have to work to spot the working girls as there are many regular girls out with their friends. some working girls are quite easy to spot, others a bit harder. they are all glamourous. it is really the top end of the market. anyway i spent a few hours drinking, chatting with locals and having fun trying to spot the girls. i had read about high end russians being at bar rouge and i'm sure there were some there but i had trouble spotting them. i got talking to these 3 glamour blondes who were from somewhere in europe. they weren't working girls, had fun talking to them and if i was willing to put more effort in, i may have been able to work a freebie but i that wasn't what i was looking for. i wanted a certainty. over the course of the night had quite a few asian (mix of chinese, vietnamese etc) girls talk to me and subtley letting me know their availability and i did end up taking one home, 1100 for 3 hours. not a bargain i know, but it suited me. i also had these two hot causasian girls smile at me a lot and i thought they may be working russians but i didn't have the bottle to approach them after my mix up with the other group of white girls before.

there are a few older guys there and the girls definitely gravitate towards the younger guys (of which i just about qualify). when they are talking to 40-50 year old guys, it is pretty obvious what is going on and they don't like that as much. you need to dress well for this place, that also helps get the girls to approach you.

regardless of whether you want to punt or not, bar rouge imho is a must see nightclub. it really does have the wow factor and i have been clubbing all round the world including london, new york and las vegas.[/quote]

[quote=bonzo1]i disagree with almost every word in this post. i don't mean to say that it's not sincere, just that it is not good advice for most people. specifically:

1. manhattan is a large bar with a lot of girls. right now manhattan, judy's (sort of), and to some extent da tong are the only game in town as far as tourist punting. da tong can be a lot of fun in fact...but takes a bit of an adventurous soul i suppose.

2. bar rouge is a total poser place. the view is amazing, the prices are bad, the music sucks horribly, the service is worse, most of the clientele are the biggest posers in sh, and the bosses/owners are legendary assholes. rttf.

3. you can be 60 years old and pick up a chick in bar rouge if you wanna way over spend. the comments about age are completely off.... backwards in fact. but it won't be cheap for anyone, unless you are young and handsome and want a low class wanna be non-wg.

4. bar rouge girls are not high class. the non wg's may think they are, but they absolutely aren't. they wg's are the same as you'll see anywhere else, but charging a lot more. pretty much the worst scene imaginable in my view.

5. further to #4, if you like to punt, bar rouge is not the place. if you like to see pretentious sh nightlife, or just a great view and the most amazing outside bar/balcony (huge) in sh, then it's a good place, and can easily score a wg or nwg there (see conditions above). but for pure punting, it's a horrible choice.

sorry to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in the cheerios of this well-intentioned post, and to each his own and all that nice stuff, but wanted to chime in with some reality here.

-b-[/quote]

i agree with bonzo. bar rouge is certainly a total poser place. for punters who want value for our money, bar rouge is not the hunting ground recommended.

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Rule number one is forget hotel massages unless otherwise reportedheede and especially of foreign fivestar hotels! Rule number two negotiateall servises requested with price beforehand. Rule number three read this forum

Fa[/QUOTE]I know, I know but at the time I was being lazy, didn't have much time for anything else and thought I'd give it a punt.

I used to use Peacock on Yuyao Lu when I was visiting Shanghai for it's value for money but given how close the tables are to the street I'm rather nervous about the LE activity to try it at the moment. Plus it's not the cleanest place in the world but they certainly know how to give an extremely happy ending.

[QUOTE=Peterpack]Popped my head into Excalibur too, a few girls there, nothing amazing.[/QUOTE]I think the only thing you'll find in Excalibur is the feeling that your wallet is getting lighter if you actually meet the requests for drinks for the girls.

[QUOTE=Peterpack]Hi guys,

Here's my field report from last night, first time in Shanghai ever. Great great city, but boy is it hot! I'm from Australia and still found it very hot.

It's always interesting to read info and tips from forums and see how they compare with the actual reality. Thanks to the many posters who helped me have a really fun evening.

So I am staying at the JC Mandarin, I actually didn't book, I rocked up in Shanghai and just found a hotel near the action. I was close to staying at the Portman Ritz Carlton, but it was just a touch out of my price range.

I started the evening at 9. 30 checking out the KTV at the JC Mandarin. Very stylish place but there were 5 girls and no customers. I felt very uncomfortable and left shortly afterwards. Girls were decent looking enough but I wanted to check out the places I intended to check out. Had read enough warnings about the KTVs so was very wary.

Got a taxi to the Big bamboo, played some pool with some people at the bar and had a few drinks. It's a decent sports bar full of expats but to tell you the truth nothing special. However I will say, unlike Western bars, there is no problem getting drinks as there are many girls walking around willing to take your drink orders.

Then went to Manhattans. On the short walk to Manhattans was approached by a girl on the street. She was what I would call a lower level girl, not ugly, just lacked Polish. I told her no thanks. Manhattans is quite nice inside, much much smaller than I had pictured. There were ladies there and quite a few guys. Quite a few older guys. It is just so obvious what everyone is there for. Stayed for a little while but didn't see any girls I really fancied. Popped my head into Excalibur too, a few girls there, nothing amazing.

Then I got a taxi and went to Bar Rouge. Now I had carefully printed the names and address of every place I wanted to check out in English and Mandarin. Didn't help! My taxi driver still couldn't find Bar Rouge, he got me close and I had to ask my way to the place. I've found that several times in China. You can have an address nicely printed out in Mandarin but many taxi drivers lack a lot of location knowledge and they are very low tech taxis, no GPS or anything like that.

Anyway I got close to where I was told Bar Rouge was and saw some nice sorts go into a building so I followed them in. The building looked closed but you have to go round a corner to the lift and then Bar Rouge is on the 7th floor. There is no big flashing Bar Rouge sign outside the building (that I saw), it is quite a discrete club and entrance. Once you get out of the lift and go up the stairs into the club, then everything changes. It really is quite an amazing club. Undercover and open air section, the open air section looks right over the city and river, truly spectacular. Decor in the club is A1 and the house music was pretty good. Drinks not cheap but you expect that. Plenty of places to sit down or stand if you prefer. Now Bar Rouge has a proper aura for a nightclub unlike Manhattan so it's a bit like Vegas and Casino girls, you have to work to spot the working girls as there are many regular girls out with their friends. Some working girls are quite easy to spot, others a bit harder. They are all glamourous. It is really the top end of the market. Anyway I spent a few hours drinking, chatting with locals and having fun trying to spot the girls. I had read about high end Russians being at Bar Rouge and I'm sure there were some there but I had trouble spotting them. I got talking to these 3 glamour blondes who were from somewhere in Europe. They weren't working girls, had fun talking to them and if I was willing to put more effort in, I may have been able to work a freebie but I that wasn't what I was looking for. I wanted a certainty. Over the course of the night had quite a few asian (mix of Chinese, vietnamese etc) girls talk to me and subtley letting me know their availability and I did end up taking one home, 1100 for 3 hours. Not a bargain I know, but it suited me. I also had these two hot causasian girls smile at me a lot and I thought they may be working russians but I didn't have the bottle to approach them after my mix up with the other group of white girls before.

There are a few older guys there and the girls definitely gravitate towards the younger guys (of which I just about qualify). When they are talking to 40-50 year old guys, it is pretty obvious what is going on and they don't like that as much. You need to dress well for this place, that also helps get the girls to approach you.

Regardless of whether you want to punt or not, Bar Rouge IMHO is a must see nightclub. It really does have the wow factor and I have been clubbing all round the world including London, New York and Las Vegas.[/QUOTE]


You took a taxi from J.C. Mandarin to Big Bamboo? Are you serious?

I just got back from it, cheap place too. Time was around 11PM

Address is 219 Nujiang Road, near Jinshajiang Road. Take Line 2 to Zhongshan park and take bus 67 to Changfeng Park. Walk west 2 blocks and you'll see Nujiang road, make a left and keep walking. You'll see a bright light massage place next to a grocery store. If you guys google map this street and zoom all the way in, you'll see an icon called "Linglin, " the massage place is right next door.

Price is "158" for a "VIP massage, " but thats just to get you upstairs where regular patrons won't hear you screwing the shit out of a girl

Enter massage place, you'll see a sign offering foot massage, body massage, and fire massage (in english) near the front door. Its on the first floor.

Note: this place was all locals, I speak fluent Chinese.

Go through and the mama or receptionist (sleezy looking) will greet you. This was my first time here and they could tell. In one big room, they have the regular folks (old guys, even some women) getting a foot massage from other middle aged ladies. Standing awkwardly around are some very pretty young women.

Mama takes me into a private massage room, and shows me the menu. She recommends the one 2nd from the bottom- its 158, private, upstairs, and for VIPs. I say ok and she yells at one of the young ladies nearby. Name is Xiao Fang, or Little Fang.

She's pretty enough and her boobs are squished together making it look nice and big, so we follow Mama upstairs where there are 3 bedrooms behind a locked door (its like going into another apartment, you'll pass by a big furnace).

Shower, she rubs my whole body down and plays with my dick a little.

We talk a little bit, where I live, what I'm doing here etc. Very nice conversation and she has a cute demeanor. We get out and she asks me how long I want to stay.

The 158 is just a cover fee, its only for a regular massage.

For a total of 258, you can get full service (as long as you can last).

Before I even start to bargain, she drops it 238 though (I lied and told her I'm a local and my old massage place got shut down).

While I'm contemplating she says if I want to cum twice. I say sure, she replies it'll be double that, so 476 for cumming twice.

I say "hold on, its my first time here, how about I just do it once today and I promise I'll come back tmrw if I think its good enough"

She drops down to 400 for 2 finishes.

I happily comply.

I lie down, she gives me a body massage, then a "dry" soapie just rubbing my body with her boobs. BBBJ for as long as I want, switch to 69 and DATY. After about 10 minutes, she wraps up the little guy and I start pumping- cowgirl, missionary, sideways and I pop after 10 minutes.

Now this is perfect timing- she pours me a cup of tea and her phone rings at the same time.

She starts taking to her aunt LOL about how she'll meet her later and that she's kinda busy right now (she puts her finger over her mouth to signal my silence).

After her conversation, she cuddles with me and tells me her nipples are really sensitive, so I start rubbing her clit and sucking on her nipples, great GFE. She cums 2 or 3 times (haha I just realized I paid money to get HER off).

I'm ready again after 20 minutes, BBBJ for a good 10 minutes straight. Condom, pump reverse cowgirl, cowgirl, sideways, then all of a sudden I get limp. She's not angry at all though, gets off, takes off the condom, BBBJ, HJ, then I finish in her mouth.

Shower off again, we go down together, find the mama, I pay 400 flat, and walk out. She hands me a coupon for 18 RMB off the next time.

Girl rating:

Looks- 7

Body- 8 (great ass, B-size boobs)

GFE- 10

BJ- 10 (rare for a Chinese girl)

Total was 400 for 2 full pops. Next time I think I'm only pay the 238 for one time though.

Hope you guys have fun with this since most places are closed or only offer limited services.

I just got back from it, cheap place too. Time was around 11PM

Address is 219 Nujiang Road, near Jinshajiang Road. Take Line 2 to Zhongshan Park and take bus 67 to Changfeng Park. Walk west 2 blocks and you'll see Nujiang road, make a left and keep walking. You’ll see a bright light massage place next to a grocery store. If you guys Google map this street and zoom all the way in, you'll see an icon called "Linglin," the massage place is right next door.

Price is "158" for a "vip massage," but that’s just to get you upstairs where regular patrons won't hear you screwing the shit out of a girl

Enter massage place, you'll see a sign offering foot massage, body massage, and fire massage (in English) near the front door. It’s on the first floor.

Note: this place was all locals, I speak fluent Chinese.

Go through and the mama or receptionist (sleazy looking) will greet you. This was my first time here and they could tell. In one big room, they have the regular folks (old guys, even some women) getting a foot massage from other middle aged ladies. Standing awkwardly around are some very pretty young women.

Mama takes me into a private massage room, and shows me the menu. She recommends the one 2nd from the bottom- its 158, private, upstairs, and for VIPs. I say ok and she yells at one of the young ladies nearby. Name is Xiao Fang, or Little Fang.

She's pretty enough and her boobs are squished together making it look nice and big, so we follow Mama upstairs where there are 3 bedrooms behind a locked door (it’s like going into another apartment, you'll pass by a big furnace).

Shower, she rubs my whole body down and plays with my dick a little.
We talk a little bit, where I live, what I'm doing here etc. Very nice conversation and she has a cute demeanor. We get out and she asks me how long I want to stay.

The 158 is just a cover fee, it’s only for a regular massage.
For a total of 258, you can get full service (as long as you can last).
Before I even start to bargain, she drops it 238 though (I lied and told her I’m a local and my old massage place got shut down).
While I'm contemplating she says if I want to cum twice. I say sure, she replies it'll be double that, so 476 for cumming twice.
I say "hold on, it’s my first time here, how about I just do it once today and I promise I’ll come back tmrw if I think its good enough"
She drops down to 400 for 2 finishes.
I happily comply.

I lie down; she gives me a body massage, then a "dry" soapie just rubbing my body with her boobs. bbbj for as long as I want, switch to 69 and DATY. After about 10 minutes, she wraps up the little guy and I start pumping- cowgirl, missionary, sideways and I pop after 10 minutes.
Now this is perfect timing- she pours me a cup of tea and her phone rings at the same time.

she starts talking to her aunt LOL about how she'll meet her later and that she's kinda busy right now (she puts her finger over her mouth to signal my silence).

After her conversation, she cuddles with me and tells me her nipples are really sensitive, so I start rubbing her clit and sucking on her nipples, great GFE. She cums 2 or 3 times (haha I just realized I paid money to get HER off).

I’m ready again after 20 minutes, bbbj for a good 10 minutes straight. condom, pump reverse cowgirl, cowgirl, sideways, then all of a sudden I get limp. She's not angry at all though, gets off, takes off the condom, bbbj, hj, then I finish in her mouth.

Shower off again, we go down together, find the mama, I pay 400 flat, and walk out. She hands me a coupon for 18 RMB off the next time.

Girl rating:
Looks- 7
Body- 8 (great ass, B-size boobs)
GFE- 10
BJ- 10 (rare for a Chinese girl)

Total was 400 for 2 full pops. Next time I think I’m only pay the 238 for one time though.

Hope you guys have fun with this since most places are closed or only offer limited services.

[QUOTE=Tony Soprano 1]You took a taxi from J.C. Mandarin to Big Bamboo? Are you serious?[/QUOTE]You included his entire post to state just that? Are you serious?

Detailed location and address can be found with the search button. Men's Spa is just across from OFFICE on Pudong Avenue not Pudong Road.

Went in the early afternoon and never saw another customer. The locker guys are kinda lame, the guy handing out towels was literally asleep but no biggee.

Lineup of 6 or so, not outstanding but acceptable. 22 y/o from Hunan, very thin with A cup. No full routine but I do not have to have AR and full cat bath, no soapie. BBBJ was great and I lasted longer than my ususal through multiple positions. No rush to get me out. Paid 600 and in room for about an hour.

Cal8

Thanks Stew 2, your post was most helpful and pointed me in the right direction. I'd not been to SH for some time since all the bars were on one street, now they have the same names but are bigger and better venues.
I went to Manhattan first about 1030pm, fairly busy but band not brilliant, plumpish not so good singer. In fact plump was the order of the day, chatted to a overweight filipina who had a beautiful face but too big for me.
Went past Malones to Judy's which had a more Chinese feel to it, more Chinese men and Scrawny Chinese dancers behind the bar, music was good but something about the atmosphere I didn't like.
Then into Malones which had a good band and a nice Sportsbar feel to it, waitresses had neat uniforms and were friendly, approached by a few girls who were not too pushy but not for me.
Back to Man about midnight and atmosphere had changed, band gone and stage full of Filipinas dancing. Chatted first to a Viet, very nice but too small. Eventually found a Filipina I fancied and did a deal at 700 all night plus taxi after her starting at 1500, she was good value, showed some gfe and did two good sessions, night and morning, nice to chat too.

[QUOTE=Peterpack]Hi guys,

Here's my field report from last night, first time in Shanghai ever. Great great city, but boy is it hot! I'm from Australia and still found it very hot.
......
Regardless of whether you want to punt or not, Bar Rouge IMHO is a must see nightclub. It really does have the wow factor and I have been clubbing all round the world including London, New York and Las Vegas.[/QUOTE]
Jokingly, let me say it seems a good strategy the one of th authorities to close down a lot of places durin Expo
Prevents some visitors spend too much in an un-necessary way with little sex back!

I had my first visit to Heting after reading here about it. Easy to find from the Siping Road Metro Station. Usual stuff leading up to line up, at least 20 standing from short to tall. Picked a slender gal with a cute smile, #257 who turned out to be 20 from Dongbei. Eyes had makeup and nicely done but not heavy facial makeup.

Now the routine and rooms are a bit different than other saunas I have tried in Shanghai. No shower attached to the room here so no soapie. This young lady got me into the deed soon after a BBBJ. Then she followed with a wonderful catbath, she licked more square inches of this body than I ever had done. Different in a good way was the feel of her lips and tongue on every toe and finger. A cover on each big toe which she sat on was another change. She finally got me to pop the second time and I was bushed.

The sitting area with large screen tv offers a menu of rice, noodles etc. I had pan fried won ton which were very good. Other guys were ordering more than one thing. The beers have a price otherwise the menu items are free.

RMB698 on the way out, I think I read a lower price in the forum but I was there in the evening. I stayed at the place for over 2 hours so to me, money well spent as I liked the gal and overall service is lauded.

Cal8

Hello all,

I'm in Shanghai in the Holiday Inn Vista Shanghai‎ near the Changshu road, and I'm looking for a place like the Daqianya Club or honghong disco in Chengdu where you can pick up girls for a sexy dance on the dance floor for ~10 kuai each dance.

Do someone know such a place in Shanghai ?

[QUOTE=California8]I had my first visit to Heting after reading here about it. Easy to find from the Siping Road Metro Station. Usual stuff leading up to line up, at least 20 standing from short to tall. Picked a slender gal with a cute smile, #257 who turned out to be 20 from Dongbei. Eyes had makeup and nicely done but not heavy facial makeup.

Now the routine and rooms are a bit different than other saunas I have tried in Shanghai. No shower attached to the room here so no soapie. This young lady got me into the deed soon after a BBBJ. Then she followed with a wonderful catbath, she licked more square inches of this body than I ever had done. Different in a good way was the feel of her lips and tongue on every toe and finger. A cover on each big toe which she sat on was another change. She finally got me to pop the second time and I was bushed.

The sitting area with large screen tv offers a menu of rice, noodles etc. I had pan fried won ton which were very good. Other guys were ordering more than one thing. The beers have a price otherwise the menu items are free.

RMB698 on the way out, I think I read a lower price in the forum but I was there in the evening. I stayed at the place for over 2 hours so to me, money well spent as I liked the gal and overall service is lauded.

Cal8[/QUOTE]
So, it is not possible to take a bath with the girl ??
Very often, i enjoy the bathing by the girl in which most sauna place do provide as a default.

Thank you for this interesting information. I will try out this place as soon as I have time. Do you know any other interesting places in this area? Saunas, Massage?

I am living at Metro station Weining Lu (next station after Loushanguang Lu).
Walked around this area, but did not find any interesting places. The massage place which is quite near is a legit one.

[QUOTE=Hoeman]Try Loushanguan Road. It is the next subway station from ZhongShan Park. I stay around that area, and sometimes go to one of the BBS for HJ or BBBJ. As for take-out service, not too sure. You will have to negotiate for takeout.
Do note the BBS are located some distance apart from one another, so you may want to recce. The BBS I am referring to is on Loushanguan Rd, when you walk out from subway, walk towards the direction of Changning Rd. You will see a lot of eating places. WHen you come to a NanHua hotpot restaurant, you can see the BBS across the street.

Hope the above helps.

Hoeman...[/QUOTE]

I was in Chengdu, too. The places you mention are great. Unfortunately I don´t know any similar place in Shanghai. Is there someone who has any suggestion?

[QUOTE=Minime69]Hello all,

I'm in Shanghai in the Holiday Inn Vista Shanghai‎ near the Changshu road, and I'm looking for a place like the Daqianya Club or honghong disco in Chengdu where you can pick up girls for a sexy dance on the dance floor for ~10 kuai each dance.

Do someone know such a place in Shanghai ?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Comrade 2255]You included his entire post to state just that? Are you serious?[/QUOTE]

He does have a point. It must be only about 75 metres door to door!

Popped into G18 last Thursday. Was business as usual I. E guy at the building reception cueing up people on the 5th floor about your arrival. Asked for #56 who has been recommended by Hoeman, but she wasn't available (they don't do reservations). Things must have been busy as after the locker room change, had to wait in the room watching Chinese channels for almost 20 mins. This is the first time I have had to wait more than 10 mins Saw couple of locals as I made my way to the fishbowl. About 10 in the line up, which was pretty average. Chose #20 who was smiling a bit. Very thin. A cup, average rack. The normal routine of 2nd girl joining in the shower. Both were pushier than usual about having a threesome. Politely refused.

Things were average through-out with # 20. Very mechanical and trying to prolong soapie slide. BBBJ was also ok at best. A bit of DATY and then came once in Mish, generally cuddled around. In the absence of any chemistry and GFE, decided to leave early after around 75 mins. Usual damage of RMB790 with the loyalty card. All in all 5/10 and #20 is avoidable. There are better fishes around. Maybe I will pop over to Pudong side for change of scenery and give Heting a try.

Making my first trip to Shanghai and would like help and advice on a decent hotel (3 or 4 stars), preferably in the heart of town and within very short walking distance to BBS or other such joints where short time action can be had.

Please don't tell me to RTFF - I have done that, but, never having been there before, none of the names or abbreviations for places mean anything to me. Hotels with inside clubs with action would certainly be a plus.

Thanks to anyone who is kind enough to help me.

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]Popped into G18 last Thursday. Was business as usual I. E guy at the building reception cueing up people on the 5th floor about your arrival. Asked for #56 who has been recommended by Hoeman, but she wasn't available (they don't do reservations). Things must have been busy as after the locker room change, had to wait in the room watching Chinese channels for almost 20 mins. This is the first time I have had to wait more than 10 mins Saw couple of locals as I made my way to the fishbowl. About 10 in the line up, which was pretty average. Chose #20 who was smiling a bit. Very thin. A cup, average rack. The normal routine of 2nd girl joining in the shower. Both were pushier than usual about having a threesome. Politely refused.

Things were average through-out with # 20. Very mechanical and trying to prolong soapie slide. BBBJ was also ok at best. A bit of DATY and then came once in Mish, generally cuddled around. In the absence of any chemistry and GFE, decided to leave early after around 75 mins. Usual damage of RMB790 with the loyalty card. All in all 5/10 and #20 is avoidable. There are better fishes around. Maybe I will pop over to Pudong side for change of scenery and give Heting a try.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday too, at around 6pm, there wasn't a lot of people. I been there only twice but never see it packed. What time were you there.

I had number 32 (or 36, I forgot). Short petite young girl from Hunan, service was slightly mechanical but there was GFE so it was not too bad. Looks is 6.5/10 and services 7/10. Nothing to shout about but seems that I had better luck compared to you.

Heard they change the numbers for the girls recently, not sure if that was true.

[QUOTE=Doctor Games]Thank you for this interesting information. I will try out this place as soon as I have time. Do you know any other interesting places in this area? Saunas, Massage?

I am living at Metro station Weining Lu (next station after Loushanguang Lu).
Walked around this area, but did not find any interesting places. The massage place which is quite near is a legit one.[/QUOTE]

There is a couple of saunas nearby (as in have to take taxi, and will not be more than rmb15). I will PM u one of the locations, as that is the one I go to.
As for the other, it is across the street near Grand Sheraton Hotel. I haven't tried that before, but was recommended by some foreign friends.

Hoeman

[QUOTE=Doctor Games]Thank you for this interesting information. I will try out this place as soon as I have time. Do you know any other interesting places in this area? Saunas, Massage?
[/QUOTE]

Tried PM to you, but to no avail. I dun wan to write down the details of the sauna here, in case of LE.

Sorry...

Hoeman

[QUOTE=Pete Yim]So, it is not possible to take a bath with the girl ??
Very often, i enjoy the bathing by the girl in which most sauna place do provide as a default.[/QUOTE]

That is correct, just as I wrote. Perhaps not all the rooms are the same and others can correct me. I was fine without the soapie since she did everything else so well.

Cal8

One block north of Xietu Lu and between Damuqiao and Xiaomuqiao on Qingzhen Lu are a number of places for massage, foot massage and one BBS. The girls in the BBS looked quite slutty which many would love. I opted for a massage at a place that had gals sitting in the lobby in business suit type uniforms which included a short miniskirt. I know massage comes with HE which was fine this time, I did not inquire about FS.

There is a shower in the room, first the back and shoulders then she gets up on the bench sitting a my feet and my legs go on top of hers. Long slow sensual massage. On the flip, my hands are allowed to roam with a quiet 'no, no' but no resistance. Up the skirt and under her top. Quite a change from the suanas in town where the gals have next to nothing on and that is off in no time. Just feels like you are getting away with something.

Mine was from Sichuan, 25 and friendly. One hour and paid 200.

Cal8

[QUOTE=California8] Quite a change from the suanas in town where the gals have next to nothing on and that is off in no time. Just feels like you are getting away with something.

Mine was from Sichuan, 25 and friendly. One hour and paid 200.

Cal8[/QUOTE]

Know the feeling - a sense of accomplishment if you can get away with as much roaming as possible.

Used to do HJ places regularly in Dongguan few years back. Always a challenge to get the gals to take off everything and to let you roam in selected areas of interest. Some of the gals let you take off the top, some let you take off the skirt, but almost never do they let you take off everything. Was successful a couple of times and it felt real good - ego booster...hahaha.

Hoeman

Brothers -

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who partakes in our hobby, but does not post on this board. Last night he went on a bit of a tear and ended up at Manhattans. He found 2 beautiful Filipino girls and decided to take them home to the Radisson New World Hotel. After making it to the room without a problem and beginning to get comfortable someone started pounding on his door. When he opened the door outside stood 2 of Shanghai's finest. They took all 3 of them "downtown". He does not know what happened to the girls, but he had to spend the night in jail, and pay a fine (not sure how much).

This may be common knowledge for my Brothers by the Sea, but I thought I would still pass it along. Seems the authorities are taking this World Expo thing seriously!

Good luck, and stay safe out there!

Sammy from Beijing

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Brothers -

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who partakes in our hobby, but does not post on this board. Last night he went on a bit of a tear and ended up at Manhattans. He found 2 beautiful Filipino girls and decided to take them home to the Radisson New World Hotel. After making it to the room without a problem and beginning to get comfortable someone started pounding on his door. When he opened the door outside stood 2 of Shanghai's finest. They took all 3 of them "downtown". He does not know what happened to the girls, but he had to spend the night in jail, and pay a fine (not sure how much).

This may be common knowledge for my Brothers by the Sea, but I thought I would still pass it along. Seems the authorities are taking this World Expo thing seriously!

Good luck, and stay safe out there!

Sammy from Beijing[/QUOTE]

Bad luck! Poor fellow!

The Radisson New World Hotel more or less turned into the Official Guest House of the Shanghai Government during the EXPO, because it is not far from Shanghai's 'Zhongnanhai'. Many "gan bu"s staying there, and the parking lot is frequented by cars with Government or Military license plates.

I assume that they take things even more serious there, for the time being.

Levitian

Anyone prepared to post or PM with any details on the Sofitel Pudong hotel sauna please? Will be staying there soon but no real opportunity to shop around.

Have RTFFF but recent details are scarce and cryptic. Any help gratefully received and returned if possible.

All the best

D

[QUOTE=Dastardley]Anyone prepared to post or PM with any details on the Sofitel Pudong hotel sauna please? Will be staying there soon but no real opportunity to shop around.

Have RTFFF but recent details are scarce and cryptic. Any help gratefully received and returned if possible.

All the best

D[/QUOTE]

Hi D,

Jinjiang Sofitel (Pudong) has a sauna called Dream Spa at the back. Walk out the front entrance, turn left to go around to the side of the hotel. You should be able to see the Spa. Damage is rmb760 for FS. Standard service (catbath, AR, BBBJ, FS). YMMV for once or 2-times. Lineup is okay; but note I haven't been back there in months since moving to Puxi side.

Hoeman

[QUOTE=Dastardley]Anyone prepared to post or PM with any details on the Sofitel Pudong hotel sauna please? Will be staying there soon but no real opportunity to shop around.

Have RTFFF but recent details are scarce and cryptic. Any help gratefully received and returned if possible.

All the best

D[/QUOTE]

If you want the 'deluxe' treatment, go right instead of left at reception, private suites (real bed, shower, tub, sex chair, etc.). You do everything in the room, no locker/shower/waiting room routine. Not sure what the damage is though (my friend paid that day).

[QUOTE=California8]One block north of Xietu Lu and between Damuqiao and Xiaomuqiao on Qingzhen Lu are a number of places for massage, foot massage and one BBS. The girls in the BBS looked quite slutty which many would love. I opted for a massage at a place that had gals sitting in the lobby in business suit type uniforms which included a short miniskirt. I know massage comes with HE which was fine this time, I did not inquire about FS.

There is a shower in the room, first the back and shoulders then she gets up on the bench sitting a my feet and my legs go on top of hers. Long slow sensual massage. On the flip, my hands are allowed to roam with a quiet 'no, no' but no resistance. Up the skirt and under her top. Quite a change from the suanas in town where the gals have next to nothing on and that is off in no time. Just feels like you are getting away with something.

Mine was from Sichuan, 25 and friendly. One hour and paid 200.

Cal8[/QUOTE]

Thanks Cal8, I went there tonight. Middle of the road, north side, name is Elegant Spa. Roper was a nice enough milf (30's), after we settled on the course, she actually was the one to do the job (ok for me, I like milfs). Several SYT's in the 'bull pen' were waiting as I passed by.

Started by preparing the massage table, and handing me a pair of those dispo shorts (I was chuckling and wondering if this was going to be a legit massage at this point). Then she locked the door -and- put a box in front of it, so I relaxed knowing a happy ending was in my future.

Anyway, the massage was legit, then the flip and she started on my didi. She directed my hands to her (ample) boobs, then pulled her shirt down and pulled my head to her nipple to suck. My fingers found their way to her pussy, and she pulled her pants down for better access. After a few minutes of this, she started DFK'ing me, and I couldn't wait. I got up and mounted her from behind, it was great to play with her big tits and full ass while pumping her.

After I blew, she escorted me to a shower in back, but did not assist with the shower. I'm guessing they're a little worried about le from the dispo shorts, and she never undressed during our time.

Damage was 400 (200 massage/200 FS). I know a little high, but the massage really was good - something I rarely get at a spa here. Sorry I didn't get the name, but she was the only milf there.

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Brothers -

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who partakes in our hobby, but does not post on this board. Last night he went on a bit of a tear and ended up at Manhattans. He found 2 beautiful Filipino girls and decided to take them home to the Radisson New World Hotel. After making it to the room without a problem and beginning to get comfortable someone started pounding on his door. When he opened the door outside stood 2 of Shanghai's finest. They took all 3 of them "downtown". He does not know what happened to the girls, but he had to spend the night in jail, and pay a fine (not sure how much).

This may be common knowledge for my Brothers by the Sea, but I thought I would still pass it along. Seems the authorities are taking this World Expo thing seriously!

Good luck, and stay safe out there!

Sammy from Beijing[/QUOTE]

Why on earth did you NOT ask him how much the fine was?!!!

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Why on earth did you NOT ask him how much the fine was?!!![/QUOTE]

Fuck the fine, man. How much is a night in a Chinese jail worth to you? In my mind, it's a LOT!

On a recent trip to Shanghai, I was directed to a sauna that had been mentioned on the forum infrequently in the past, but not recently. Usual Sauna scene, good lineup and then shower, soapy, red rope (which I turned down, once is enough). Rooms were clean enough and large enough. Good experience, 800 rmb, didn't notice the duration but wasn't hurried. It was a daytime visit and the place was not crowded.

Also visited a massage place on Guilin Lu, past its intersection with Wuzhong Lu. There is a row of three or four of these places and all had girls in miniskirts standing near the entrances. I walked into one called 368, I believe. Asked for a massage, was directed upstairs and a busty girl came up shortly. Reasonable girl, reasonable massage (60 mins, 158 rmb (If I remember correctly)), and a 50 rmb tip for HJ. Alright experience, no complaints.

Thanks to all who helped.

Regards,
Analogue

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Why on earth did you NOT ask him how much the fine was?!!![/QUOTE]Ummm....of course I asked, but he would not say. I got the impression that he had someone from his local office help him out. They probably paid the fine on his behalf.

Sammy

With all of the warnings and stories about LE crawling about, I've avoided going to my fav saunas. Instead, I've tried a couple of outcalls, with varying degrees of satisfaction. Last night, I searched in craigslist for 'filipinas' and called the girl in this ad: [url]http://shanghai.craigslist.com.cn/ers/1833229772.html[/url]

She speaks decent English, and is fun and pretty casual and upfront about what she's doing. No whining, annoying, little girl antics like some of the local Chinese outcalls.

Anyways, I thoroughly enjoyed my 2 hours. At 1000rmb, she's not cheap, but she's worth it. Clean, great tasting poon, knows what she's doing, gives good uncovered oral, and knows how to ride. Also, really good kisser :-)

Face: 7 (8.5 when she smiles)

Body: 8 (soft, dark skin, short stature, little belly, great legs for a short girl, full luscious a$$, small t1ts with super sized juicy nips!... long hair, and **** stamp tattoo and some cute piercings)

Attitude: 9 (really friendly, treated me well... because I treated her well)

Service: 9 (many different positions, no major inhibitions, and energetic)

As they say, a picture's worth a thousand words, so...

[QUOTE=Mike921]If you want the 'deluxe' treatment, go right instead of left at reception, private suites (real bed, shower, tub, sex chair, etc.). You do everything in the room, no locker/shower/waiting room routine. Not sure what the damage is though (my friend paid that day).

Hi D,

Jinjiang Sofitel (Pudong) has a sauna called Dream Spa at the back. Walk out the front entrance, turn left to go around to the side of the hotel. You should be able to see the Spa. Damage is rmb760 for FS. Standard service (catbath, AR, BBBJ, FS). YMMV for once or 2-times. Lineup is okay; but note I haven't been back there in months since moving to Puxi side.

Hoeman [/QUOTE]Thanks guys. You'll make a not-quite-so-old man hopefully quite happy.

All the best

D

Catching up on this report. Since I had previously read about the sauna on the 2nd floor, thought I would check it out.

Went late afternoon, did not see any other punters in the locker room/shower area. Lineup of 6 or so, picked a tall, slender cutie, she later told me she is from Shanghai, 22 and 165 cm. Nice firm tits and beautiful long hair, plus hairy too.

She had a great fake moan, I am not that good. Bars above but no red rope offered, no problem as I experienced already this trip. After the deed, quite friendly as she wanted to practice the little bit of English she knows. After the expected putonghua and shanghaihua she also knows enough cantonese and japanese for the job. She says she has been at the job for a year.

650 since I was there before 19:00.

Cal8

[QUOTE=Mike921]Thanks Cal8, I went there tonight. Middle of the road, north side, name is Elegant Spa. Roper was a nice enough milf (30's), after we settled on the course, she actually was the one to do the job (ok for me, I like milfs). Several SYT's in the 'bull pen' were waiting as I passed by.

Started by preparing the massage table, and handing me a pair of those dispo shorts (I was chuckling and wondering if this was going to be a legit massage at this point). Then she locked the door -and- put a box in front of it, so I relaxed knowing a happy ending was in my future.

Anyway, the massage was legit, then the flip and she started on my didi. She directed my hands to her (ample) boobs, then pulled her shirt down and pulled my head to her nipple to suck. My fingers found their way to her pussy, and she pulled her pants down for better access. After a few minutes of this, she started DFK'ing me, and I couldn't wait. I got up and mounted her from behind, it was great to play with her big tits and full ass while pumping her.

After I blew, she escorted me to a shower in back, but did not assist with the shower. I'm guessing they're a little worried about le from the dispo shorts, and she never undressed during our time.

Damage was 400 (200 massage/200 FS). I know a little high, but the massage really was good - something I rarely get at a spa here. Sorry I didn't get the name, but she was the only milf there.[/QUOTE]

Mike-

Glad I was able to contribute to your mongering. And price not too high because you got a real massage and sounds like great service. The street has numerous options and Peacock is not far away.

Cal8

i went to try out the three moon spa (三月养生会) along jianguo west road. i found the place from some of the japanese dm magazines which you can pick up at some of the japanese resturants in shanghai. some fellow mongers also reported about this place in previous post, so i decided to give it a try. check previous post for the address.

the ambient of the place was one of the best i have ever visited. it is almost like visiting dragonfly or dapan (almost). when i enter, there were two therapist sitting in the lobby, both of them look quite bored. i took the 268 (i think) package and was led upstairs by one of them (no 1). the room was pretty clean, with two massage bed and a shower.

perhaps there was a lot of checks lately, because no 1 seems quite cautious and perhaps with a tad of unfriendly attitude when she brought me to the room. she put a disposable uw on the table, asked me to changed and left for five minutes. she came back after a while and started the massage which was good for a he place.

during the massage, we chatted ( i can speak a little mandarin) and she became more relaxed. i hinted that i am looking for some fun but she pretended not to understand and wanted me to say exactly what kind of 'fun'. i finally said i wanted he and she smiled. quite an exciting discussion while having massage.

she did not go into the deed immediately but continue with the massage, but apparently became more relaxed and chatty, with a little teasing. when it was time, she took off the disposable uw and went to work on junior. my hands started a little roaming and she did not resist, but told me not to go too far. managed to get under the skirt and also touch the boobs so 'not too far' is quite a distance on her scale. finished the deed when she toild me time was almost up (90 mins), showered and had a hug and kiss, which was good.

she did mention that she usually do not do he unless the client ask. she said most of the girls here are more reactive, perhaps only a few will asked the clients whether they want he. so if you want it, you have to ask.

damage was 268+200, which was quite worth it given that it was a good massage and the place was not too bad. will not go back often but definitely a place to go once in a while.

[QUOTE=Pizdyets]Fuck the fine, man. How much is a night in a Chinese jail worth to you? In my mind, it's a LOT![/QUOTE]If a night in jail and a fine is the only penalty, then it is not bad. Imagine if they call up your workplace.

[QUOTE=Max37]If a night in jail and a fine is the only penalty, then it is not bad. Imagine if they call up your workplace.[/QUOTE]

I'd question what business is it to my employer *what* I do on my free time, as long as it doesn't affect my job performance or the public reputation of the company.

One thing is clear though... I'm staying away from the Radisson! Maybe I'm just a wimp, but I really do prefer a 5* hotel with Egyptian cotton sheets over Chinese jail. :)

[QUOTE=Dragon D]Waves is still going strong. Conch plaza on zhong shan west road and wuzhong road. Was there the other day and had about 20 girls in the fish bowl. Ended up with 927. Really nice girl with a good attitude. No kissing but otherwise was great. Did the afternoon thing to save 100. Damage was 680.[/QUOTE]

It's been awhile since I've been to this forum. Did a search but didn't get the answer to this question.

Is Waves still in business? I understand they changed the business a bit going to soapy's. They used to offer a three part leg massage, which was a private foot, leg and third leg massage that lasted a long time for less RMB than the regular massage. Is this still offered? Or is it offered at other venues?

Thanks for the info!

Last Friday I checked out a freelancer here in Shanghai. I searched in the internet and finally select one from this page: [url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/privat-escort/escort-girls-shanghai-free-guide-coco[/url].
The picture was a fake, but she is a very cute slim girl (round about 158 cm, 44 kg) with a small tattoo on hear back ;-). She was dressed very nice, we first had dinner together, she also speak english very well, so no problem to talk with her (but I am german, so don`t know how good english really is), than we go to a bar and start to kiss, than I was too horny to stay longer, so decide to go to my hotel room. She was a little bit drunken allready, so I could motivate her to dance for me first and take off her clothes (she wear very sexy underwear with black silk stockings), than we take shower together and she start to massage my little brother while we take shower, so I was hot allready, when we went to bed. She did not offer BBBJ, but with condom also was nice. At all she gave a great GFE, stay the whole night with me and also the next morning we had another round, before she left. She told me she will not accept every customer, but if she like you, I think you can have a lot of fun with Coco. All together I spend 1500 RMB for the Girl plus drinks and food, so a little bit more expensive than other girls I got from Manhattan Club before, but the additional cost was worth for the GFE.

Face: 6/10
Body: 7/10 (if you like petite girls)
GFE: 8/10
Blow: 4/10

I will be staying at Four Points Daning at Zhabei. Any recommendation on FS sauna at that area?

Question about Craigsist hookers.

Has anyone tried any of the Chinese girls on these sites? Are they close to what they advertise in terms of looks?

Or is going to the saunas a better bet?

[QUOTE=Geylangguy]Question about Craigsist hookers.

Has anyone tried any of the Chinese girls on these sites? Are they close to what they advertise in terms of looks?

Or is going to the saunas a better bet?[/QUOTE]

the forum has quite some reports on CL feedbacks so that you can form your own opinion by doing the 2nd most popular activity in the world:. RTFF :)

[QUOTE=Geylangguy]Question about Craigsist hookers.

Has anyone tried any of the Chinese girls on these sites? Are they close to what they advertise in terms of looks?

Or is going to the saunas a better bet?[/QUOTE]

Yes, tried many. 100% of them are fake. It's a roll of the dice in terms of looks, and service. I've had some ok ones, and some absolutely awful ones.

I am certain everyone who has tried will agree with this assessment.

Hy Folks,

Does anybody know where to get Russian girls in Shanghai?? Escort or a Bar?

Will be there Sunday!

Greetz

[QUOTE=Mambru]Hy Folks,

Does anybody know where to get Russian girls in Shanghai?? Escort or a Bar?

Will be there Sunday!

Greetz[/QUOTE]

In the Russian Consulate??!!!

Alternatively, you probably should rtff or use the Search Function.

Levitian

As for the World Expo and crackdowns in Shanghai. For the few weeks I was in Shanghai and mongered here for the first time, I visited saunas, MPs and BBS. The gals were cautious and there were plenty of bolted doors but no more than past experiences in other cities I have visited in China. Just once when I visited 999 did I find a place closed, all others were open for business, some very busy and some had no other mongers around.

Perhaps I lucked out and just missed a raid by a day or two. Veterans to Shanghai might say the numbers of gals are down but I can not compare.

I am leaving Shanghai with many good memories.

Cal8

[QUOTE=Bonzo1]Yes, tried many. 100% of them are fake. It's a roll of the dice in terms of looks, and service. I've had some ok ones, and some absolutely awful ones.

I am certain everyone who has tried will agree with this assessment.[/QUOTE]

is where it's at.

Hi all,
I am staying at the Holiday Inn Vista near Changshou lu. I would like to know if there are any nice saunas/massage places I can pay a visit. Any PMs would be much appreciated. I am leaving in a few days so from a monger to another, any tips in PMs will be followed and reported as soon as I get my free internet back.

FK

[QUOTE=Max37]If a night in jail and a fine is the only penalty, then it is not bad. Imagine if they call up your workplace.[/QUOTE]
I learned today that the fine was 100,000 rmb. The find had to be paid in cash, so he had to get his companies help. When he finally got back to the hotel he learned he was globally banned from that chain for life.

Sammy

Made a visit to Heting last Friday around 10pm. Obviously too late... only one girl to choose from. Awesome place, great service. Very upscale.

The chick had fake tits which was a bit of a turn off but her pussy was very tight so overall a great fuck.

I prefer working a little harder for my fucks... massage palors, BBS, freebies, etc.

Anyone know when 999 will be back. I loved that place. I want to find another good place with a fishbowl.

I'm back on the prowl Fri night. If anyone needs a tour of Shanghai pussy, IM me.

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I learned today that the fine was 100,000 rmb. The find had to be paid in cash, so he had to get his companies help. When he finally got back to the hotel he learned he was globally banned from that chain for life.

Sammy[/QUOTE]Waow, this is not cheap.

For a treesome it was way too expensive.

I guess it was the wrong place at the wrong time.

I don't believer you are German, your Chinglish is way too strong, and most Germans have much better English language skills than you think.

Please don't tout on this website.

MAB

[QUOTE=Steven Long]Last Friday I checked out a freelancer here in Shanghai. I searched in the internet and finally select one from this page: [url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/privat-escort/escort-girls-shanghai-free-guide-coco[/url].
The picture was a fake, but she is a very cute slim girl (round about 158 cm, 44 kg) with a small tattoo on hear back ;-). She was dressed very nice, we first had dinner together, she also speak english very well, so no problem to talk with her (but I am german, so don`t know how good english really is), than we go to a bar and start to kiss, than I was too horny to stay longer, so decide to go to my hotel room. She was a little bit drunken allready, so I could motivate her to dance for me first and take off her clothes (she wear very sexy underwear with black silk stockings), than we take shower together and she start to massage my little brother while we take shower, so I was hot allready, when we went to bed. She did not offer BBBJ, but with condom also was nice. At all she gave a great GFE, stay the whole night with me and also the next morning we had another round, before she left. She told me she will not accept every customer, but if she like you, I think you can have a lot of fun with Coco. All together I spend 1500 RMB for the Girl plus drinks and food, so a little bit more expensive than other girls I got from Manhattan Club before, but the additional cost was worth for the GFE.

Face: 6/10
Body: 7/10 (if you like petite girls)
GFE: 8/10
Blow: 4/10[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know any BBS around the TONG REN LU area?

[QUOTE=Member #3055]Does anyone know any BBS around the TONG REN LU area?[/QUOTE]


There were some on Beijing Road, not too far from Tongren Road, but they didn't offer FS, and I actually wonder if they still are in business.
The area around Tongren Road is getting fancier by the day, so I think no chance to find any BBS in the close neighborhood.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Ocean25]Made a visit to Heting last Friday around 10pm. Obviously too late... only one girl to choose from. Awesome place, great service. Very upscale.

The chick had fake tits which was a bit of a turn off but her pussy was very tight so overall a great fuck.

I prefer working a little harder for my fucks... massage palors, BBS, freebies, etc.

Anyone know when 999 will be back. I loved that place. I want to find another good place with a fishbowl.

I'm back on the prowl Fri night. If anyone needs a tour of Shanghai pussy, IM me.[/QUOTE]This is the one on Si Ping Lu right?

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]I learned today that the fine was 100,000 rmb. The find had to be paid in cash, so he had to get his companies help. When he finally got back to the hotel he learned he was globally banned from that chain for life.

Sammy[/QUOTE]Sammy,

Do you know more details, of what went down? If the hotel did not stop him from going up. It sounds like maybe the police were watching the hotel or followed him from Manhattan's? And saw the hotel did not stop him, went in, got his room number, and the rest is history?

I assume the hotel got fined too. The reason he is banned.

[QUOTE=Sammy_T]Brothers -

I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who partakes in our hobby, but does not post on this board. Last night he went on a bit of a tear and ended up at Manhattans. He found 2 beautiful Filipino girls and decided to take them home to the Radisson New World Hotel. After making it to the room without a problem and beginning to get comfortable someone started pounding on his door. When he opened the door outside stood 2 of Shanghai's finest. They took all 3 of them "downtown". He does not know what happened to the girls, but he had to spend the night in jail, and pay a fine (not sure how much).

This may be common knowledge for my Brothers by the Sea, but I thought I would still pass it along. Seems the authorities are taking this World Expo thing seriously!

Good luck, and stay safe out there!

Sammy from Beijing[/QUOTE]Although I believe its always a good idea to be careful while hobbying, this guy was not caught because he had girls in his room. First, as this guy is friends with me and Sammy T, we both got the story in parts but now I have the true scoop.

After having around 18 shots of something at the bar he took two filipino girls to his hotel room for fun. Then for some reason he began smashing things in the room and breaking those little bottles of booze by throwing them at the flat screen tv's - broke both of them. The police were called because of the excessive noise. He doesn't remember the police coming in but vaguely remembers being naked and seeing two scared filipino girls huddled in the corner. He woke up in the jail but didn't recall how he had gotten there. He was not busted for having the girls in the room and they let him go after signing the bill for the damages to the room: 112,000rmb. He is banned from the hotel chain for life.

So while we should all be careful during this time of crackdowns and such it is also important to remember that anger/stress management can be costly if left untreated.

Thank you and play safe

The Outlaw JJ

My new favorite full service place in Shanghai.

Arrived around 2:30pm Saturday, not crowded at all. Easy to get to via Metro. Quite impressed with the upscale facilities and service.

Picked #156 (Leeya). Cute little thing, out of a fresh lineup of about 12.

I give her a perfect 10 for GFE, enthusiasm, and performance. Highly recommended.

Be sure to set aside extra time at Heting for relaxing afterwards in the big comfortable easy chair and enjoy the free tea/noodles/fried rice they offer. Very enjoyable. Total charge was $600 yuan.

Compare that price with a night of mongering in smoky clubs, high-priced drinks, and random drama with WGs. What a difference. If you want to treat yourself to a relaxing afternoon of TOTAL enjoyment, try Heting.

Hello everyone,

I am in shanghai these days. And found all BBS i know are closed. I understood why watching former posts. Can someone help me by giving me adress of BBS in operation with good services? please PM as i understood as well that it is not anymore convenient to put them in the public areaa of this forum.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mock A Bee]I don't believer you are German, your Chinglish is way too strong, and most Germans have much better English language skills than you think.

Please don't tout on this website.

MAB[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Steven Long]Last Friday I checked out a freelancer here in Shanghai. I searched in the internet and finally select one from this page: [url]http://www.shanghai-nightlife-guide.com/english/privat-escort/escort-girls-shanghai-free-guide-coco[/url].
The picture was a fake, but she is a very cute slim girl (round about 158 cm, 44 kg) with a small tattoo on hear back ;-). She was dressed very nice, we first had dinner together, she also speak english very well, so no problem to talk with her (but I am german, so don`t know how good english really is), than we go to a bar and start to kiss, than I was too horny to stay longer, so decide to go to my hotel room. . ................[/QUOTE]
I seldom discriminating new members, however, for the first day to join this forum and then publish such an interesting story, I would not totally believe that. Nevertheless, on that web site he quoted, quite a lots of positive comments.

[QUOTE=Jessie James]

After having around 18 shots of something at the bar he took two filipino girls to his hotel room for fun. Then for some reason he began smashing things in the room and breaking those little bottles of booze by throwing them at the flat screen tv's - broke both of them. The police were called because of the excessive noise. He doesn't remember the police coming in but vaguely remembers being naked and seeing two scared filipino girls huddled in the corner. He woke up in the jail but didn't recall how he had gotten there. He was not busted for having the girls in the room and they let him go after signing the bill for the damages to the room: 112,000rmb. He is banned from the hotel chain for life.



The Outlaw JJ[/QUOTE]

JJ, thanks for the update, this explains a lot.
Damages to the room 112,000 RMB: wow, this guy really must have been "on a rampage".

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]JJ, thanks for the update, this explains a lot.
Damages to the room 112,000 RMB: wow, this guy really must have been "on a rampage".

Levitian[/QUOTE]

I doubt that the guy actually did that much damage unless the room looked like the scene the day after in Las Vegas from the "Bachelor Party" movie but they can pretty much charge what they want when you are caught in that kind of compromising position and he was probably too scared to negotiate the price.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]I doubt that the guy actually did that much damage unless the room looked like the scene the day after in Las Vegas from the "Bachelor Party" movie but they can pretty much charge what they want when you are caught in that kind of compromising position and he was probably too scared to negotiate the price.[/QUOTE]

Prices are listed in the room, and are normally between 5 and 10 times the store price, ie 32" flat screen tv 28,000 rmb, buy it in SH, 2,800 rmb!

go figure!

fz

I miss the days of Mao Ming Lu Saturday nights when the streets were full like a mardi gras. I miss the times when I could walk in any given direction and discover streets with pink lights and scores of sexy girls. I miss the days when being a foreigner was a mind blowing novelty for Chinese girls rather than just just a ticket to money. I miss the old markets and the crazy vibe that place had. Miss the days when phillipino's had not yet saturated the market. I miss the days before the Olympics and Expo.

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao]Prices are listed in the room, and are normally between 5 and 10 times the store price, ie 32" flat screen tv 28,000 rmb, buy it in SH, 2,800 rmb!

go figure!

fz[/QUOTE]

AS hotels are made to stay and sleep and not for smashing furnitures and content, no wonder they over price damages.
Not to mention that some damages might force the hotel not to rent the room for the days needde to repair.
So 112.000rmb can easuiy be equaly to some 8 or 10 nights wothout accounting the real damages (carpets etc)
Might look steep, but one has to pay for his own msitakes

[QUOTE=White Dragon]I miss the days of Mao Ming Lu Saturday nights when the streets were full like a mardi gras. I miss the times when I could walk in any given direction and discover streets with pink lights and scores of sexy girls. I miss the days when being a foreigner was a mind blowing novelty for Chinese girls rather than just just a ticket to money. I miss the old markets and the crazy vibe that place had. Miss the days when phillipino's had not yet saturated the market. I miss the days before the Olympics and Expo.[/QUOTE]Hallelujah brother - Hallelujah.

Unless you actually saw MaoMing Lu in all it's glory - you just would not understand - a warm night - literally hundreds of w.hores just for the picking - heaven on earth.

And throw the fucking Vietnamese into the equation with the Pilipinos - damn Manhattan nowadays not a shadow of it's former past.

Remember Judys and Manhattan on MaoMing Lu - wall to wall Chinese, Russian and a sprinkling of Mongolian - damn I loved those bars - damn I miss those bars.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Hallelujah brother - Hallelujah.

Unless you actually saw MaoMing Lu in all it's glory - you just would not understand - a warm night - literally hundreds of w.hores just for the picking - heaven on earth.

And throw the fucking Vietnamese into the equation with the Pilipinos - damn Manhattan nowadays not a shadow of it's former past.

Remember Judys and Manhattan on MaoMing Lu - wall to wall Chinese, Russian and a sprinkling of Mongolian - damn I loved those bars - damn I miss those bars.[/QUOTE]

... and the bj-bars here and there, the Qick-Fix-Around-The-Corner BBS, the village, etc. etc. etc.
This was another time and another city. R.I.P.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Levitian]... and the bj-bars here and there, the Qick-Fix-Around-The-Corner BBS, the village, etc. etc. etc.
This was another time and another city. R.I.P.

Levitian[/QUOTE]

... And how the paradise of CP or ZH was just a flight away and is fast becoming just another normal city.... The perils of prosperity...

Go to M1nt, Bar Rouge, Mao, Park97.

They are everywhere these days. Sigh.

WB

[QUOTE=Mambru]Hy Folks,

Does anybody know where to get Russian girls in Shanghai?? Escort or a Bar?

Will be there Sunday!

Greetz[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shanghaihammer]Correct, but Xiao Mi (former sexy entertainer) is still available on call.[/QUOTE]You can find Xiao Mi at the Blue Bar Changshou Lu corner with XinLe Lu.

Enjoy!

Hi Guys,

Read through the reports and it seems like Shanghi Hotel Sauna is back open. An old favourite of mine.

Anyway i want to introduce my friend to a guarenteed Red Rope experience.

Can anyone confirm for sure where we would be guarenteed to get this. We are both guilos and my Mandarin is limited so its hard to ask for it ;-)

Hailang Club seem another option, although I have no idea where/how far this is.

Any sauna doing both soapy and red rope as part of the one service?

Thanks Jon

PS to the guys reminicising about the good ol days re Mao Ming Lu. I lived in Shanghai in 1998 can anyone remember a small bar/club underground (literally) that only got going in early hours of the morning and you would stumble out at 7am??
Standard operating procudeures was go start at Malones, when Malones closed on to Judys Too, then when Judys closed it was on to this bar/club I cant recall the name of and its driving me mental! I will know it as soon as someone says the name.

[QUOTE=Johnny Wynne]

Anyway i want to introduce my friend to a guarenteed Red Rope experience.

Any sauna doing both soapy and red rope as part of the one service?[/QUOTE]To my recent knowledge, and about 3 visits in the past 2 months, Shanghai Hotel doesn't do red rope.

One I know for sure which does the soapie and red ropes is the Love Hotel at Wuzhong Lu and Hongshu Lu. It's adjacent to the Sky Fortune Hotel on the 9th Floor of the building. Go to Sky Fortune Hotel, walk behind it and then turn right when you see the Sky Fortune Spa. It's the building on the right and you'll see a lift lobby which says about a spa on the 9th floor. They have rooms which have the red rope so you need to ask for those rooms.

Hope that helps.

[QUOTE=WetAsianWonder]Address is 219 Nujiang Road, near Jinshajiang can get full service (as long as you can last).[/QUOTE]I went here today at lunch.

The good:

- easy to find as per WAW's directions
- fairly safe
- cheap (250rmb total)
- rooms plain but clean, large bed, clean shower
- FS, BBBJ

The bad:

- not many girls there at lunchtime and not super attractive
- girls just wear plain clothes, no feeling of eroticism to the place
- found it hard to get taxi out of there

the girl I had:

- from Chengdu
- massive breasts 6
- average face and body 5
- good attitude though 7

Maybe there's more ladies at night. Really not much to pick during the day. I could have chosen a better looking girl who was slim but I haven't touched big breasts in a while so I choose miss busty. Her breasts big but maybe a little too firm. Her BJ skills average and just 1 pop. Nothing to write home about bit she was nice personality. Not shy and not rushed.

The place is halfway between a BBS and a sauna. For the price, a lot more enjoyable and private than a scungy BBS and you can shower afterwards. I wouldn't go out of my way to go here again but it's encouraged me to look harder around other areas for a similar style of place.

Cheers

Johnny Wynne the club from 1998 you are thinking of was probably DiDi's.

[QUOTE=Johnny Wynne]Hi Guys,



PS to the guys reminicising about the good ol days re Mao Ming Lu. I lived in Shanghai in 1998 can anyone remember a small bar/club underground (literally) that only got going in early hours of the morning and you would stumble out at 7am??
Standard operating procudeures was go start at Malones, when Malones closed on to Judys Too, then when Judys closed it was on to this bar/club I cant recall the name of and its driving me mental! I will know it as soon as someone says the name.[/QUOTE]

It was either DD's or later, YY's.
YY's still exists, but only as a bar/pub.

Levitian

[QUOTE=Crazylaowai]Johnny Wynne the club from 1998 you are thinking of was probably DiDi's.[/QUOTE]

Yes!!!! You know I thought it was DiDi's but then I was thinking perhaps I was getting confused with some old Mandarin lessons hahaha.

Ahhhhhh can sleep tonite.

Thanks Guys

Hey Johnny

Just PM'd you about that one place where I was offered both without asking for them.

Best Regards,
Analogue

[QUOTE=Johnny Wynne]Hi Guys,

Read through the reports and it seems like Shanghi Hotel Sauna is back open. An old favourite of mine.

Anyway i want to introduce my friend to a guarenteed Red Rope experience.

Can anyone confirm for sure where we would be guarenteed to get this. We are both guilos and my Mandarin is limited so its hard to ask for it ;-)

Hailang Club seem another option, although I have no idea where/how far this is.

Any sauna doing both soapy and red rope as part of the one service?

Thanks Jon

PS to the guys reminicising about the good ol days re Mao Ming Lu. I lived in Shanghai in 1998 can anyone remember a small bar/club underground (literally) that only got going in early hours of the morning and you would stumble out at 7am??
Standard operating procudeures was go start at Malones, when Malones closed on to Judys Too, then when Judys closed it was on to this bar/club I cant recall the name of and its driving me mental! I will know it as soon as someone says the name.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Shanghaihammer]You can find Xiao Mi at the Blue Bar Changshou Lu corner with XinLe Lu.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]

Changshou Rd. and Xinle Rd. do not have a direct crossing. I guess you meant Changshou and Changle Road.

Levitian

Went out for the first time in a while in Shanghai, met up with one of the more prolific mongers for a small B'Day celebration, if you call two non-alcoholic drinks at Malones a celebration. I also had a buddy with me that had never been down towm Shanghai, although that didn't seem to bother him, because about 30 mins after we arrived and had dinner, he latched onto this cute little Chengdu morsel and cut out early. Heard from him this morning that it was a VERY successful debut, and ask when we were going to try the other bars....WTF...
Anyway, went for a drink at Judy's and saw a few cuties, then made the obligatory journey to Manhattan, maybe I have been there too often, but 5 mins. after entering a Viet I pulled about 3 mths ago was trying to pawn her friend off on me....seems she already had a customer. Then a Fils gal that I have known for a year said hello and was trying to convince me to restoke that flame!
My point is that I am either tired of Manhattan or it really has changed. It seems since most of the Fils stopped coming it is not as fun, at least to me. Too much smoke, too crowded, the staff is more aggressive (if that is possible) hawking drinks. There were a few stunners last night, a few Chinese, Viets I saw, but the overall quality of the girls seems to have dropped off some. I enjoy the vibe in Judy's a lot more and I suspect if more girls went there, it would be a real hotspot. Although the ladyboys seem to have found a home in Judy's.....why is it that they are usually the best looking ones in the room? Oh well that is too steep a mountain for me to climb!
I think for the future, I will concentrate on Judy's and just drop into Manhattan to see if there is a stunner or two worth making a run at!

Sky

[QUOTE=Levitian]Changshou Rd. and Xinle Rd. do not have a direct crossing. I guess you meant Changshou and Changle Road.

Levitian[/QUOTE]Dear Levitian,

I apologize for the wrong info. You are right it's Changshou and Changle Road and the bar name is BLUE DREAM BAR.

DT

[QUOTE=Shanghaihammer]Dear Levitian,

I apologize for the wrong info. You are right it's Changshou and Changle Road and the bar name is BLUE DREAM BAR.

DT[/QUOTE]

Mate,

I tried to pm you, but you do not have a membership, yet, so I failed.
Thanks anyway.

Levitian

Hi guys!

Wanted to share yesterdays night experience at Sacrosa.

Was home bored and decided to go to Sacrosa to "relax".

Get in as usual, pick my gal, number 207, very nice body and cute face. Start was as always, the "water massage", she was surprised as I do not want to have sex with her, I just wanted her to be rimming me and BBJ and she even let me finger her. When we were at the very best, and I was ready to come, all in a sudden lights start to turn off, she gets scared and I hear people shouting she jumps up, trys to get dressed, I get dressed with the "pijama" as quick as I can in the dark, and I hear people running and shouting, I try to find my mobile in the dark, get it and do not know what to do, she starts shouting to me, go, go, run! I get out of the room and see all customers and girls running, it was a big caos, I was so scared and frightened, they take me to one of the waiting rooms, and there is another guy there, also as scared as me (he was american on a business trip, and was his first time) we start speaking, of how scared we are both, and what would happen if police would catch us etc.

After approx 10min they come and pick us and say that everything is OK, and I was thinking, a shit everything is OK. They lead us back to the room with the girl to continue, but I just wanted to go home, so, I try to finish as quick as I can, and at the very moment I come, I jump out of bed, and tell that I want to go out.

I am in such a rush to get out of there, that I do not even shower.

So what should have been a night of relax, became a real nightmare!

Was anybody else there yesterday?

Happened to me some time ago. Look at one of my earlier posts. Nothing to get bent out of shape about. Just the way the business is at present. You wanted a little excitement. Right? You got it. And she would have gone through the balance of the session without batting an eye. Live with it. They take care of their customers.

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno]Hi guys!

Wanted to share yesterdays night experience at Sacrosa.

Was home bored and decided to go to Sacrosa to "relax".

Get in as usual, pick my gal, number 207, very nice body and cute face. Start was as always, the "water massage", she was surprised as I do not want to have sex with her, I just wanted her to be rimming me and BBJ and she even let me finger her. When we were at the very best, and I was ready to come, all in a sudden lights start to turn off, she gets scared and I hear people shouting she jumps up, trys to get dressed, I get dressed with the "pijama" as quick as I can in the dark, and I hear people running and shouting, I try to find my mobile in the dark, get it and do not know what to do, she starts shouting to me, go, go, run! I get out of the room and see all customers and girls running, it was a big caos, I was so scared and frightened, they take me to one of the waiting rooms, and there is another guy there, also as scared as me (he was american on a business trip, and was his first time) we start speaking, of how scared we are both, and what would happen if police would catch us etc.

After approx 10min they come and pick us and say that everything is OK, and I was thinking, a shit everything is OK. They lead us back to the room with the girl to continue, but I just wanted to go home, so, I try to finish as quick as I can, and at the very moment I come, I jump out of bed, and tell that I want to go out.

I am in such a rush to get out of there, that I do not even shower.

So what should have been a night of relax, became a real nightmare!

Was anybody else there yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Are There Any Night Clubs Near Hotel Radisson Hong Quan For Bringing Back Girls To Your Hotel And Does The Hotel Ask For An Id For Such Girls.

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Hi Black Berry09,

I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...

[red][u]Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports![/u][/red]

It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.

On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: [i]Thank You![/i][/blue]

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno]Hi guys!

Wanted to share yesterdays night experience at Sacrosa.

Was home bored and decided to go to Sacrosa to "relax".

Get in as usual, pick my gal, number 207, very nice body and cute face. Start was as always, the "water massage", she was surprised as I do not want to have sex with her, I just wanted her to be rimming me and BBJ and she even let me finger her. When we were at the very best, and I was ready to come, all in a sudden lights start to turn off, she gets scared and I hear people shouting she jumps up, trys to get dressed, I get dressed with the "pijama" as quick as I can in the dark, and I hear people running and shouting, I try to find my mobile in the dark, get it and do not know what to do, she starts shouting to me, go, go, run! I get out of the room and see all customers and girls running, it was a big caos, I was so scared and frightened, they take me to one of the waiting rooms, and there is another guy there, also as scared as me (he was american on a business trip, and was his first time) we start speaking, of how scared we are both, and what would happen if police would catch us etc.

After approx 10min they come and pick us and say that everything is OK, and I was thinking, a shit everything is OK. They lead us back to the room with the girl to continue, but I just wanted to go home, so, I try to finish as quick as I can, and at the very moment I come, I jump out of bed, and tell that I want to go out.

I am in such a rush to get out of there, that I do not even shower.

So what should have been a night of relax, became a real nightmare!

Was anybody else there yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Seconded Waldeck's comment. I had a similar experience in a sister branch of sacrosa. Thankfully I was done when the light went on. Just keep the PJ close to you. It was probably just a routine check. Cheers

I have read so many reports about these 2 places and decided to finally have a look last Friday night and Tuesday night. Im both cases I arrived about 10.30 pm and stayed for about 3 or 4 hours.

Judys

Many lady-boys and the rest were worn out and tired specimens. To me a total waste of time and even it they were giving it away then I would have found it hard to find someone that I was interested in.

Manhattens.

I had high hopes for this place but again felt that it was a waste of time. Why ? So many seasoned and hardened ladies here all playing on the tourist market in Shanghai now due to the Expo. I met many Vietnamese. some Cambodians and a lot of Filipina.

I have travelled to The Philippines and Cambodia and have met Vietnamese ladies in Cambodia. The ladies at the above establishment were a poor selection compared to what is available in the native countries. Add to that; a large number smoking. aggressively chasing at any indication of interest and most of them being overweight then to me I was not impressed.

I have lived in Shanghai for many years now and speak some Chinese so communicating with the country girls is possible for me now. Yes, the places offering these girls have shrunk considerably but still around if you look hard. I had an 18 year old recently and that only cost me 200 rmb. Why would I pay the grossly inflated prices being asked at the above places?

These girls are preying on the lack of market knowledge by newbies in Shanghai for the Expo. If all you guys refused to pay their stupid prices then you might get some value for money. I guess if this happened then these true pros would not come here since the money would not be big enough for them.

In the chance that I have just been unlucky recently I will try once again over the weekend. I am not confident that anything will be in any way different.

Maybe I have just been spoiled over the years or too fussy? Probably a case of both but I did notice that many of the girls were having a low conversion rate of chats to dates and this seems to suggest that I am not alone in my findings.

You of course may well have very different views on the matter but I would like to hear them.

hi guys,

its been a while since i have been able to give something back to the forum so i wil take this opportunity to do so. had a few pm's from some of the guys answering my recent questions so thanks to you all.

this is also probably a little counter to wordsofwisdoms report although i do agree with his sypnosis of both judys and manhattans this week.

ok, went to manhattans on monday night for a couple of hours and although aggressively approached went home by myself. lots of viets but very few filippinas i found? i love philippino girls but didnt seem to find all that many. anyway most of the girls were average or below average in looks to my ridiculously high tastes of late. haha.

anyway went back on tuesday night feeling a little more horny and so a little less picky. a viet girl latched on and i didnt really think i would take her but after an hour of her lap dancing me, licking my ear and kissing deeply i relented. hahaha. her english was very good, her chinese about as good as mine (i can mumble up a very basic conversation) so that was also a plus. im a guilo by the way.

i negotiated 3 hours, 2 pops for rmb1000. i really only wanted to pay rmb800 but i couldnt really budge her and besides had i not taken her i would have given her rmb100 for her hour effort at the club. so decided i would wear the rmb200. plus i didnt want all night as i had to work early in the morning but suspect she would have stayed all night at rmb1000 if i had pushed her.

well guys all i can say is we got back to the room and it was worth every single jiao!!! haha my god!!! i dont know what you got for your rmb200 wordofwisdom but i got a 3 hour wet dream come to life!!!!
great little body under her not so revealing dress, white flawless skin,no kids, great little tits. best blow job and catbath i have ever had. fantastic mind blowing sex, no position out of bounds, full on non stop kissing (this is something i really like and not every girl likes to do) and dirty talk and then when i had trouble going for round 2 the full on masturbation show 2 feet from my head while she had one leg draped across my chest and the other spread that far over the bed it was a wonder she didnt split in half. not content with just giving me this little show she was not shy about getting me actively involved in it. the only time she broke eye contact was when she came!!!

if you have ever been to the eden club in bangkok it was like that but with only 1 girl and was even a little more believable haha.

anyway while i would give her a passing 7.5 in the looks dept she deserved a 12 for effort. un.........believable!

so while yes manhattans and judys on first inspection is nothing to write home about there are some real gems in there. i wouldnt have traded the 3 hours with this girl. she is in my top 10 p4p for sure.

she also had a very sweet but cheeky attitude which i also liked. great sense of humour. only negative was she was smsing/replying other guys at times during but you cant have everything can you.

cheers
jon

Manhattan/Judys - 10:30PM is too early.

Which ever club you hit first is really going to be in sad shape. I had two
filipinas staying in my spare bedroom for awhile. The 35 year old would leave
the house at 10:30PM, the 24 year old at 12:30 to 1:00AM.

Manhattan's. OK, I had to visit it after reading all those posts. full of Vietnamese ladies, some Philippinas and maybe a couple of Chinese (locals). Got approached on every side but I wanted to have a good look first - drinking a very average gin-tonic. A nice Vietnamese lady kind of attracted me and she came over. We talked a bit and I immediately gave her the message I was not in a big spending mood: 400rmb. She said: "500 for 2hrs". I replied with "400" again and to my surprise we had a deal. She wouldn't rush of after 1hr and she kept her promise. She was into her late twenties, nice firm tits (B-cup), great nipples and a very horny attitude: good BBBJ, French kissing etc. As soon as we entered my room (Hyatt on The Bund, yes, no prob) she gave me a whole lotta loving for about 1,5hr.

So many experts here lately regarding Manhattan - why don't you 'studs' post some pics.

This w.hore cost me RMB800 all night - performance 10+.

No do not pm me for contact details - go to Manhattan and cut one from the herd yourself - it's as easy as picking apples.

Next night - same deal - RMB800 all night - again performance 9+ - this w.hore complained a bit about having her pics taken - she suggested Billy might post them on internet - would I do that?

Again don't bother pm'ing for contact details - go to Manhattan and grab one yourself - easy as shelling peas.

Bad Boy Billy,

Looks like you found some sweet entertainment once again. The photos are great, but I bet you had more fun with desert. Thanks mate for letting us all know what can be had out there. I'll be visiting Manhattan next time through.

Guys,

I've just arrived in Shanghai and regarding to a lot of positive reports about Hotel Shanghai Sauna want to visit this one. But I can't find the address here even when I'm using search _ Could someone help me with this one?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Hallelujah brother - Hallelujah.

Unless you actually saw MaoMing Lu in all it's glory - you just would not understand - a warm night - literally hundreds of w.hores just for the picking - heaven on earth.

And throw the fucking Vietnamese into the equation with the Pilipinos - damn Manhattan nowadays not a shadow of it's former past.

Remember Judys and Manhattan on MaoMing Lu - wall to wall Chinese, Russian and a sprinkling of Mongolian - damn I loved those bars - damn I miss those bars.[/QUOTE]Hey! I was their at that time. Shanghai has change but China is big and now, nearly 10 years after, we should all speak at least enough Chinese to enjoy the countryside! Many many great great girls all over the country for cheap and just willing to learn. Try small cities all over the country. The KFC hunting season is not close! Just now they have seen japanese porn and want to try!

Cheers.

She would make a jack rabbit hug a hound... Mighty fine

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=137315[/url]

ES

Just a short one to say I went to G18. Was on a tuesday. No problem, picked up 56, very nice face, very small rack (unfortunatly) excellent attitude. No RIM, but that is almost a plus in my book. Lots of kissing. Overall, I had a great time.

The only bad thing is that when going out, I could not take the elevator and they guided me to the emergency stairs with no lights, where I had to walk with a flashlight used by one of the staff. Although nothing happen, I was a bit affraid of an imminent raid. anybody had such experience at that place?

Confirmed plan to viswit Shanghai from 6th to 8th. Any1 fancy a to help a newbie in the town? Did all the reading I could already. But always can use an old hand around.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Next night. Same deal. RMB800 all night. Again performance 9+. This w. Hore complained a bit about having her pics taken. She suggested Billy might post them on internet. Would I do that?

Again don't bother pm'ing for contact details. Go to Manhattan and grab one yourself. Easy as shelling peas.[/QUOTE]What happened to the Billy I knew who only pulls young AC Philipinas) Beijing has clearly made you a real BBB.

Fa

Can anyone tell me that whether Radisson Hong Guan is gf, and are there any saunas near the hotel?

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Next night - same deal - RMB800 all night - again performance 9+ - this w.hore complained a bit about having her pics taken - she suggested Billy might post them on internet - would I do that?[/QUOTE]Hi BadBoyBilly,

All the pics you posted are from the same date.

So you keep you word about not posting pics from next night?

You realy are a bad boy Mr.Billyfun, and i love that.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Next night - same deal - RMB800 all night - again performance 9+ - this w.hore complained a bit about having her pics taken - she suggested Billy might post them on internet - would I do that?

Again don't bother pm'ing for contact details - go to Manhattan and grab one yourself - easy as shelling peas.[/QUOTE]Been a lurker here for sometime, but WOW. I didn't really like the atmosphere of Manhattan first time round, but with goods like this I may have to reconsider, that body is 10/10 for me, have only snagged 1 other girl in my life who I would also consider a 10. Know you asked to not bother for contact details but was this a Chinese/viet?

[QUOTE=PauloThai]Hi BadBoyBilly..........All the pics you posted are from the same date.[/QUOTE]Very observant Paulo - very observant.

Actually date in camera memory had been played with by a staff member - I reset date - actually consecutive nights.

Howdy chaps. Long time lurker seldom a poster, my bad! Arrived today in Shanghai for the first time in about a year or so. My usual haunt is Sacrosa due to being put up in the Sofitel JinJiang. Imagine my delight at RTFFing a couple of days ago and spotting that the Sofitel has the 'Dream Spa'. Well, here I am now about to head out there and check it out. Strangely, since I was last here they've built a new East Wing on the hotel, and according to the hotels documentation the Dream Spa is in it, on the 3rd floor. Doesn't fit with the directions given in previous posts so I think I'll do a quick recce around the buildings first in case I get mixed up.

Expect a report in a few hours.

Oh, there's another spa I normally visit (which I forgot the name of) down the side of the Fengshine market on Nanjing Xi Lu, not far from the park. Wish I could remember the name, but I'll probably drop by there tomorrow anyway.

As you walk down the left side of the building (as you face it) there's an entrance on the right, it's in there a few floors up. Crap memory today can't remember which

I did in the past use the Spa in the JinJian itself, it was HR only at the time and damned pricey. Had to bargain hard to get below 100 USD and in the end I thought fcuk that I'll do it myself. Similarly I did get them to send a masseuse to my room one night, where the options were more enjoyable but the price wasn't, so the Dream Spa may just be what I'm looking for if I can't be arsed going to Sacrosa. Always takes me ten minutes wandering around the towers there before I find the right one in the middle of the night!

[QUOTE=Dr Maligno]I get out of the room and see all customers and girls running, it was a big caos, I was so scared and frightened, they take me to one of the waiting rooms, and there is another guy there, also as scared as me (he was american on a business trip, and was his first time) we start speaking, of how scared we are both, and what would happen if police would catch us etc.

After approx 10min they come and pick us and say that everything is OK, and I was thinking, a shit everything is OK. They lead us back to the room with the girl to continue, but I just wanted to go home, so, I try to finish as quick as I can, and at the very moment I come, I jump out of bed, and tell that I want to go out.

I am in such a rush to get out of there, that I do not even shower.

So what should have been a night of relax, became a real nightmare!

Was anybody else there yesterday?[/QUOTE]

Unless they catch you naked and having sex there is NOTHING the police can do to you so once you get your shorts on you can relax.

[QUOTE=Johnny Wynne]PS to the guys reminicising about the good ol days re Mao Ming Lu. I lived in Shanghai in 1998 can anyone remember a small bar/club underground (literally) that only got going in early hours of the morning and you would stumble out at 7am??
Standard operating procudeures was go start at Malones, when Malones closed on to Judys Too, then when Judys closed it was on to this bar/club I cant recall the name of and its driving me mental! I will know it as soon as someone says the name.[/QUOTE]

Yin Yang (YY)? It's still open, Nanchang Lu near Maoming Lu.

Here we go.

I went round to the front of the Sofitel and round the left side as mentioned before. Lo and behold, the Dream Spa. Guess that its coincidence that the hotel's own spa on the 3rd floor of the west wing is also called the Dream Spa.

Had the usual shower and sat in the waiting room having a smoke n coke watching crappy chinese TV. I was offered 2 girls, both quite pretty, wearing white dresses that didn't show much figure. I chose 825.

We got to the main room and it was a pleasant enough experience, she was a little soft around the middle (I like li'l spinner types) but then so am I. Then again, I wasn't paying to fuck me for an hour.

Nipple massage and catbath excellent, lots of tickling and stroking of the balls and the main attraction. She got very wet being fingered and rubbed.

BBBJ was very good too, nice and wet, soft lips. The screwing wasn't so great though, kept complaining throughout (I'm above average but not exactly massive). She wanted to HJ finish. I sat on the chair and she knelt and got busy with her lips. Shot over her tits (I guess a B cup).

Overall, considering it's right around the corner and I'm lazy sometimes, I would go back, however, I'd take Sacrosa over it anyday (and certainly Yu Ping although thats bloody miles away).

I was wondering if anyone had visited the area around Hangzhong Lu recently. Last post on the forums about this area says everything's in apartments now. Wondering if this is still true and whether you have to now find people to lead you there?

The entrance is on the back of the hotel! I do not particularily like it but some others recommend it so let us know your verdict! But there is more fun nearby if you read back a few pages

Enjoy

fa[QUOTE=Muppets]Howdy chaps. Long time lurker seldom a poster, my bad! Arrived today in Shanghai for the first time in about a year or so. My usual haunt is Sacrosa due to being put up in the Sofitel JinJiang. Imagine my delight at RTFFing a couple of days ago and spotting that the Sofitel has the 'Dream Spa'. Well, here I am now about to head out there and check it out. Strangely, since I was last here they've built a new East Wing on the hotel, and according to the hotels documentation the Dream Spa is in it, on the 3rd floor. Doesn't fit with the directions given in previous posts so I think I'll do a quick recce around the buildings first in case I get mixed up.

Expect a report in a few hours.

Oh, there's another spa I normally visit (which I forgot the name of) down the side of the Fengshine market on Nanjing Xi Lu, not far from the park. Wish I could remember the name, but I'll probably drop by there tomorrow anyway.

As you walk down the left side of the building (as you face it) there's an entrance on the right, it's in there a few floors up. Crap memory today can't remember which

I did in the past use the Spa in the JinJian itself, it was HR only at the time and damned pricey. Had to bargain hard to get below 100 USD and in the end I thought fcuk that I'll do it myself. Similarly I did get them to send a masseuse to my room one night, where the options were more enjoyable but the price wasn't, so the Dream Spa may just be what I'm looking for if I can't be arsed going to Sacrosa. Always takes me ten minutes wandering around the towers there before I find the right one in the middle of the night![/QUOTE]

I had to try it.

Glad someone posted the instructions about finding the entrance RE the blacked out windows.

Went for number 199, slim build nice figure and a very pretty face.

Partly shaved too ;) Little bush up top but around were it matters was nice and bald. Tight too.

Catbath and AR excellent, AR always gets me going. BJ short but good. Started off the screwing very slowly as she was complaining it hurt, but after a few minutes she was nice and wet and took a good pounding. Left feeling very satisfied. I would thoroughly recommend this place, if they had Red Rope for novelty value it'd beat Yu Ping (though I haven't been there in a couple of years).

As already mentioned, it's very swish inside, and definitely the nicest massage rooms I've seen. Larger table/bed than usual, some background music and just generally a top notch presentation.

Damage was 698, guy said something about it normally being 798 but 100 off for no receipt.

Opening hours 12 til 12.

Enjoy.

hi fellas,

long time reader, first time poster. sorry about that. today i had my first experience as a hobbyist at that wonderful, wonderful golden place not too far away from jingansi. what a blast: one hour and a half of pure fun.

got there, changed clothes and got the pijama on. grabbed my cigs and followed a guy armed with a walkie-talkie down a velvet-coated maze, walking past many rooms all decorated in the same way. the whole thing started out quietly, as i got ask to sit in a waiting room for about 10 minutes. fair enough.

after 15 minutes of watching chinese news channels and smoking, the same guy comes back and he hurries me to follow him again. it's a moment of excitement and a bunch of other hobbyist (all chinese) flow towards a small room with a line-up of 20 girls. some are quite old, but most are good looking. the best ones (somewhere around 8. 5 overall i'd say) get picked by connoisseurs lookalikes, and i manage to tell the mamasan that i want a tiny, little wonderful chinese xiaojie. a solid 8. big eyes, good sized rack, very firm body and a quirky smile.

she leads me to a big room with a huge bed, some lcd screens blasting japanese porn, and an annexed en-suite shower room. i wonder what the inflatable mattress is for. little did i know what was waiting for me.

we calmly get undressed, she's hot and i instantly get a hard on. probably it's because i'm young and not too bad looking, but she seems to be very playful and we chat (fortunately i speak some mandarin) about some random stuff. turns out she's from hunan and she's been here only for a couple months. 20 years old, she says, and her body surely doesn't lie.

then we shower: her soapy body rubs against every single one of my limbs, and she occasionally indulges in some pretty deep bbbj. she likes it. another girl, who looks like a 7, joins the action. she's petite and has the face of an angel. while one girl is using her tits like sponges to massage my back and neck, the other one is greedily slurping my balls with rare mastery. i don't want it to end.

after a while (and the ritual question: "do you want the both of us? ", which i politely declined) i discover what the inflatable mattress laying besides the shower's wall was meant for: provide a clean and slippery support for the girl's next endeavour. i lay down and she starts splashing my whole body with a hot oily solution. she does the same, and then starts grinding on my body with her boobs, bubbly ass cheeks and warm pussy. once again, she often stops to taste my cock and balls. she tries to go ar but i tell her no, as i don't feel comfortable with it. her mouth swiftly slides on my skin, kissing me repetitiously.

get another quick shower, chat some more, compliment her for her wonderful looks, and then it's time to let her taste some real action. she leads me to the bedroom, and i lay down while she patiently starts to lick me everywhere, from my ears to my toes. she then sits in front of my cock and starts an amazing bbbj while massaging my balls, and occasionally fingering her hot pussy. it's not late before i can't take it anymore, and i need to finally nail her.

she pops out a vest for my john, dresses him up, and then we are at it. i pump her missionary style for a good 15 minutes while she touches her nice boobs and ensnares me with her legs. her pussy is very tight, and she visibly enjoys getting banged. she frowns a bit when i go all in, saying that it's too deep, but she's well lubed up so everything goes smooth in a couple strokes. after a while i grab by her arms and she sits on top of me, moving quicker and quicker. two minutes and i have to slow down, as i don't want to shoot yet, but enjoy this experience to the fullest.

i get her doggie style, and i slowly get inside her little pussy. my cock is harder than ever, her pussy smooth and shaven, her nice ass is deliciously soft and firm at the same time. after some 10 minutes of pumping, japanese porn on the wall and cheesy music in mandarin music in the background, i start touching her asshole and i discover that it is not only all lubed, but she's also enjoying being touched. i ask her if i can fuck her in the arse and she says ok.

that was the best moment of the whole session, as her arse was very tight and she seemed to enjoy it a lot. i came in her ass (all covered, obviously) while she was screaming "hen shufu baobei" ("feels good baby") and i was holding her by the right shoulder and working on her little clit with my other hand, doggie style. it was definitely one of the best fucks of my life. we exchanged phone numbers and then she gave me an additional massage and lots of kisses. then shower, some more chatting, and then saying goodbye.

fantastic experience, i will go back for sure.

speed limit: 880. total time: one hour and a half, maybe more.

[QUOTE=Humsuplo] Know you asked to not bother for contact details but was this a Chinese/viet?[/QUOTE]Viet - and the blow job - my god.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Viet - and the blow job - my god.[/QUOTE]Thanks BBB, with that info and my "detailed files" from studying your pictures I stand a great chance of tracking down this lovely at Manhattan. Picture the terminator entering "scan mode" when looking for target.

Hi everybody

I'm a new member, sorry for my bad english.

I'd like to ask if somebody knows some interesting place in songjiang?

Thank you

Late last night I had the urge again so off I toddled to Sacrosa, about midnight. Rang in advance just in case that was too late, but they're open til 2am. Chose number 207, she was looking fine :)

Very pretty face and nice long legs. I would definitely choose her again, she did everything with some gusto and had a playful attitude. No point going over all the gory details, suffice to say that I had an excellent time and a relaxing chuckle for a few minutes afterwards.

This afternoon I was going to go to the place down the side of the Feng Shian market on Nanjing Xi Lu (ok I think the markets actually called something else but sure you know what I mean). There's a place if you go down the left of the building as you face it, in the entrance on the right and up to the 6th floor, called Feng Ding Yuan. Don't wander into the KTV on the 5th floor by mistake.

Anyways, Feng Ding Yuan was shut which disappointed me as about 18months ago I had a fab time in there, the girl actually brought outfits for me to choose one for her to wear, and encouraged me to shoot on her face. Maybe it'll be open next time I'm back.

So, off to Heting Elite again, number 270 this time. Chose her again for the pretty face and nice slender frame. Boobs were false advertising thanks to the pushup bra, but still, a lovely figure naked :)

Gotta say, if I never have another catbath I won't miss it. It's a novelty now and then but if like me you only come here occasionally so you cram a few sessions in, it gets wearing. I've other stuff to do with my day, I'd rather have an extra half hour BJ or something. Not that hers was bad, in fact, it was rather good when I wasn't thinking about everything else I had to do later on. What I'm trying to say is I can take or leave them, and at the moment, I think leave is the preference. Anyhoo... I digress....

She stuck rubbers on both my big toes then proceded to stick them where you stick things with rubbers on. Cue some gyrating and breast rubbing. A first for me for sure, but again, happy if it never happens to me again. Was starting to feel like maybe I shoulda just stayed in the hotel and had a wank as I'd been in the room for 45 mins now and really wanted to fuck.

Once she got down to the BBBJ it was all worth it, very nice technique. Moved me about into various positions while sucking, and then it was on with the rubber and her on all fours, me standing behind. Nice and tight :) Decided I wanted more of that BJ though so I sat on the bed and she did her thing til the end. Mmmm. Nice CIM. Well, for me anyways.

So, thats the end of my trip to Shanghai for now, back in a few months no doubt.

[QUOTE=Wordsofwisdom]I have read so many reports about these 2 places and decided to finally have a look last Friday night and Tuesday night. Im both cases I arrived about 10.30 pm and stayed for about 3 or 4 hours.

Judys

Many lady-boys and the rest were worn out and tired specimens. To me a total waste of time and even it they were giving it away then I would have found it hard to find someone that I was interested in.

Manhattens.

I had high hopes for this place but again felt that it was a waste of time. Why ? So many seasoned and hardened ladies here all playing on the tourist market in Shanghai now due to the Expo. I met many Vietnamese. some Cambodians and a lot of Filipina.

I have travelled to The Philippines and Cambodia and have met Vietnamese ladies in Cambodia. The ladies at the above establishment were a poor selection compared to what is available in the native countries. Add to that; a large number smoking. aggressively chasing at any indication of interest and most of them being overweight then to me I was not impressed.

I have lived in Shanghai for many years now and speak some Chinese so communicating with the country girls is possible for me now. Yes, the places offering these girls have shrunk considerably but still around if you look hard. I had an 18 year old recently and that only cost me 200 rmb. Why would I pay the grossly inflated prices being asked at the above places?

These girls are preying on the lack of market knowledge by newbies in Shanghai for the Expo. If all you guys refused to pay their stupid prices then you might get some value for money. I guess if this happened then these true pros would not come here since the money would not be big enough for them.

In the chance that I have just been unlucky recently I will try once again over the weekend. I am not confident that anything will be in any way different.

Maybe I have just been spoiled over the years or too fussy? Probably a case of both but I did notice that many of the girls were having a low conversion rate of chats to dates and this seems to suggest that I am not alone in my findings.

You of course may well have very different views on the matter but I would like to hear them.[/QUOTE]I guess, to each his own!

In Shanghai, Manhattan and Judy's is fun. Sure the girls may be better in PH or VT. And you can get cheaper stuff on the street or BBS. But, if you want a good time, the "little chickens" in Manhattan can't be beat. Drink, dance, and hours of fun. The 200rmb'ers ain't. I'm sure you will know the difference when you try both.

Of course they are also fake, fake, fake! I had real ones for free!

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Next night - same deal - RMB800 all night - again performance 9+ - this w.hore complained a bit about having her pics taken - she suggested Billy might post them on internet - would I do that?

Again don't bother pm'ing for contact details - go to Manhattan and grab one yourself - easy as shelling peas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso]Of course they are also fake, fake, fake! I had real ones for free![/QUOTE]Hey FA - don't ever be afraid to post pics of the stunners you keep telling me about but never showing me.

Oh and for the benefit of all who frequent this thread - be very wary about introducing your good w.hores to FA - he has a history of 'cutting your grass' as soon as you look elsewhere.

If he was not such a good friend Billy would never even talk to him.

[QUOTE=Shanghaied Again]In Shanghai, Manhattan and Judy's is fun. Sure the girls may be better in PH or VT. And you can get cheaper stuff on the street or BBS. But, if you want a good time, the "little chickens" in Manhattan can't be beat. Drink, dance, and hours of fun. The 200rmb'ers ain't. I'm sure you will know the difference when you try both.[/QUOTE]In fact I would go a bit further - I would say that for westerners who like to go to bars - enjoy a few drinks - listen to some music - pick up w.hores in a pleasent and enjoyable bar type atmosphere - take those w.hores back to THEIR hotels - shower them up all nice and clean - then go to work on them - then I would contend that Manhattan and Judys are the BEST bets in town.

Clearly this IMHO - YMMV.

I have tried them ALL regularly over the last 10 years - I have had great experiences from Bourbon Street, Luna, Paulaner, Park 97, Attica, Bar Rouge, Rendevous, Zapatas, etc etc - BUT - the 2 mainstay bars where you can ALWAYS enjoy an evening and ALWAYS go home with a quality w.hore have been Manhattan and Judys - from MaoMing Lu to TongRen Lu to current locations.

I spend limited time in Shanghai now - I detest the cockroach infested cum soaked BBS environment - I have little time for the overated and usually underperforming Chinese w.hores in the Massage places - give me a quality freelancer from a freelance bar any time.

I am wondering if any is still around. I found a couple in the past reports. But they are all pretty outdated. Wish to ask about the updates.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Hey FA - don't ever be afraid to post pics of the stunners you keep telling me about but never showing me.

Oh and for the benefit of all who frequent this thread - be very wary about introducing your good w.hores to FA - he has a history of 'cutting your grass' as soon as you look elsewhere.

If he was not such a good friend Billy would never even talk to him.[/QUOTE]Billy you know I love you! And I meant the tits not the photos! On cutting the grass, hey is it my fault they all fall in love with me handsum man (of course this is only because I live here so offer a more regular income base, but still I am just too beautiful!)

on contribution, hotel situation is still ok if you avoid the mentioned excemptions, had a girl in every night and no problems! I advise the less glamorous downstairs MPs, got an unasked perfect HJ and the immediate afterwards remark we also come too hotel, so routine as usual!

Main problem was when I come back hotel I have a surprise visitor. In general a wonderful thing but it was hard work coming two times in half an hour!

I love China

Fa

PS: Billy you need the new foreign phone number of you know who?

Best place to go in SOngjiang IMHO:

The Line 9 Metro station, and get yer ass into the city.

I spend a lot of time in Songjiang for work and it's desolate in my opinion.

Try Red Bar though, if you want drunken Laowai freebies...

[QUOTE=Drake18]Hi everybody

I'm a new member, sorry for my bad english.

I'd like to ask if somebody knows some interesting place in songjiang?

Thank you[/QUOTE]

Can someone help out and give me some directions or give me the address.

Much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Valkyrie]I am wondering if any is still around. I found a couple in the past reports. But they are all pretty outdated. Wish to ask about the updates.[/QUOTE]
I need the adress to heting elite if anyone has it. Heard it was phenomenal want to check it out

[QUOTE=Layzboi118]I need the adress to heting elite if anyone has it. Heard it was phenomenal want to check it out[/QUOTE]Why does this post make the back of my neck itch in that "special way", or is it just me.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Why does this post make the back of my neck itch in that "special way", or is it just me.......[/QUOTE]It is just you as that post makes me digit 4 letters: RTFF

[QUOTE=Layzboi118]Can someone help out and give me some directions or give me the address.

Much appreciated.[/QUOTE][url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1000271&highlight=heting#post1000271[/url]

I used this post to find it, very helpful. Metro Line 10 is now in operation though.

Whatever your do do not, repeat DO NOT use the search function in this forum. And if you happen to find a girl to stick it into, make sure she knows what to stick and where to stick it. Damn.

[QUOTE=Layzboi118]Can someone help out and give me some directions or give me the address.

Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]Best place to go in SOngjiang IMHO:

The Line 9 Metro station, and get yer ass into the city.

I spend a lot of time in Songjiang for work and it's desolate in my opinion.

Try Red Bar though, if you want drunken Laowai freebies...[/QUOTE]Desolate! Ehehe. Not good for me. But as you said, I have to work here.

I know red bar, but I prefer that some Chinese girls keep me company instead of some drunk western people. Ehehe.

I will come in shanghai, I think.

Looks like no one has an idea about Radisson Hong Quan in the forum.

Can anyone let me know any saunas, nightclubs near the hotel as it is my first time in Shanghai.

spending first day scouting the manhattan, malone and judy's

got to try heting too. it took me 5 minutes to figure out the canary cages and sign board that i could not read. detailed reports follow soon.

hoping to meet with other mongers over my weekend here. cheers peeps.

[QUOTE=Drake18]Desolate! Ehehe. Not good for me. But as you said, I have to work here.

I know red bar, but I prefer that some Chinese girls keep me company instead of some drunk western people. Ehehe.

I will come in shanghai, I think.[/QUOTE]


There may be better choices, but here's what I'd do if I was stuck in Songjiang and needed a quick fix.

...and pardon me for not remembering more details...

Take line 9 to the Qibao stop. not sure which exit, but when you emerge into the open air and face the street that the exit opens onto, there will be a big shopping center across the cross street to your left. Turn right and head away from that. Walk a couple blocks and soon you will see a series of three or four pink BBS on your right. PM me if we need to discuss further.

Uncle Ira may work in Songjiang but he lives in the city and is surely thankful for that.

According to a Chinese forum, there's some BBS's near the Longhua Pagoda on a small road off of Longshui North Rd. They didn't specify the address but they said it's near a residential community, so I'm guessing it's along Longhua West Rd near Longshui North Rd, which is the main road. If anyone goes there, please report.

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Shanghai

Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.

Hopefully this will therefore be useful.

A couple of points from the outset.

1 – I had no problem accessing ISG from my hotel.

2 – I took a girl back one night, getting to the hotel at about 1am. There was no need to register the girl. I just walked in holding her hand and went straight to the elevator. Whilst I cannot pretend to be experienced in Shanghai, the sex trade is an important part of the Chinese economy and hotel staff probably do not care. It may be different in lower end hotels, but I was in a 5 star hotel and had no problems.

3 – I only visited Heting Elite and a couple of bars, namely Malones and Manhattan although I have put some additional information in my report as I had done the research.

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite – 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road – this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.

Golden 18 (G18) – corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu

Yu Ping – 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian – could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa – 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Tianhao – 978 Gu Mei Lu

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum– perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Bars

Manhattan – 154 Nan Yang Road. Great bar, filled with plenty of girls. Was fortunate enough to meet an American in Malones (see later) who suggested that I don't choose a girl from Malones until I have at least been to Manhattan – I am glad he did and I followed his advice.

Ended up taking a nice Vietnamese girl back to my hotel for RMB 1000. Had a great time and carried on with another session in the morning. She left at about 6am which was great as it allowed me to get some sleep as I had a meeting later that day

Judy's. 99-3 Xi Kang Lu – did not go here so can't comment.

Malones. Tongren Lu – walking distance from Malones – was not that busy – saw a lovely girl, looked to be Chinese, arranged to meet her later for RMB 1000 overnight – was just hedging my bets in case Manhattan was not as described by my new found American friend – I need not have worried.

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/QUOTE]Zhongtian (not Zhonglian) is now Xinghe. Address is 86 XianXia Road. Location is across the street from Sheraton Hongqiao (corner of Zunyi Road and Xianxia Road) in the Maxdo Plaza (B1).

Was closed during recent crackdown but is now back in business. Same owner and a few of previous girls are also back.

Good service as always.

It was a balmy summer evening and I entered a haunted Bbs street in changning district. Instead of going to my usual spot I tried a few doors down. Girls were wearing light pink dresses and one was particularly cute - especially for a bbs. She led me to the room and came back with the standard issue wet wipes, oil and tissues. I noticed she cardied the wet wipes in like a baby. I make some general chit chat about the hot weather. She ignores mr and spends 2 minutes carefully opening the wipes box. With 2 fistfulls of wipes she starts washing my hands. Fair enough. She then proceeds to wipe her own hands. Ok.

She behins the massage, gently caressing my whole body clothed. I start hitching up her skirt and suddenly wet wipes appear again and my hands and fingers are given a second going over. Fine whatever. I caress her legs. Quite nice skin and this girl is plenty attractive. She unbuttons my shirt and reaches for the wipes. She wipes not just my nipples but all my chest and stomach. On a hot summer day it feels fine. In triplicate she washes her hands again and starts caressing my bare skin. I motion her to remove her top and bra and she does so. I start touching and squeezing her tits and she seems annoyed. I soon find out why. Her breasts have not been wet wiped so out comes the box. To be sure she wet wipes my nipples again before starting to suckle on them. Ok fine.

She unbelts my pants. I know what's coming. I'm quite aroused by this stage but soon I find myself loosing blood as she inspects and cleans me. After I'm drenched she wet wipes her hands once again. I pull her panties down and aim for some fingering. 'wait' she says. This time I pass her the box. She doesn't smile at my subtle ploys at humour. Are we good to go? Seems like my nipples have lost their wipe. Another wash. The bin is getting full.

I start inserting my fingers and she is lush and wet. Obviously too wet because she pulls my hand away and gives it another wipe. Nothing to be embarassed about I tell her. I shoot my loud and despite her spending 5 minutes positioning tissues I miss and get my belly. Mire wipes and tissues follow. Damage was 100 rmb. I guess they only get 90 of that because the rest goes to wipes. Ok I understand the value of wet wipes but this girl was insane about their use!

dear forum,

thanks in advance for your patience, as this will be my first post, and i hope it conforms with all the rules.

i have been in shanghai for a week now, and this was my first time in china, so it took me a while to get acclimated.

my choice of lodgings was the dongfu guest house, which through hotels.com i booked for 55 usd per night, which i gather is a good deal. although i initially planned to take advantage of dragon d's tour service, the fact that my hotel was small and had a very serious looking security desk put me off the idea of bringing freelancers to my room. especially having read the various posts on here about le being called even to 5-star hotels; i couldn't stomach the risk.

instead i decided to get down and dirty in a bbs, since in the past i have found this sort of quicky action in rundown settings (think downtown in madrid or in the parks on the outskirts of köln) really works for me. *so, yesterday, after searching the shanghai forum for "bbs", i saw that one poster had pointed out songfa metro up in baoshan district had more than 15 bbs nearby, and currently in operation despite the downtown crackdown. *late in the afternoon (around 7pm), i arrived at songfa metro, and, not knowing which way to go, headed west on songfa road. *this path immediately passes a small commercial zone on the right, with two very legitimate looking barbershops with male barbers at work on numerous customers. *the road then crosses a small stinky canal, then goes through a very quiet residential area. about 1km from the metro is the intersection of songnan road, which is the heart of a sizeable commercial district. walking north and south on this road, i covered the whole little area, and indeed saw upwards of 15 barber shops. *

however, this being my first time in china, i was still underinformed about how these places work and how they should look. in most i saw a combination of men and a few women barbers, cutting peoples hair. *obviously that can't be the sole purpose of these shops, given that they made up a good 20% of the businesses in the area. but i was confused by the low number of women visible, the fact that they were not dressed slutty or sexy, and the fact that despite my peering into all these places, i wasn't beckoned inside. *anyway, especially being completely bald, i figured that if i was beckoned inside, it would be because they knew what i was looking for! my mandarin is very limited and i was not excited about trying to explain in vain what i wanted. *so in the end, i headed home a little frustrated.

today i was supposed to catch a train to hangzhou, but when i arrived at shanghai south station around 11am, i was told everything was sold out until 7pm. *so, i went back to the boards in search of a suggestion that would be easier for a first-timer. *i saw the great reviews of heting elite, and decided to make that my next attempt.

i took the number 10 metro to siping road station, and then walked south along the west side of that street until i came to number 777, which had a huge sign above the building reading heting elite. *the doormen showed me to the elevator, and upstairs the lobby was filled with very serious looking employees in dark suits with walkie-talkies. *

the conversation upon arrival was minimal, i was simply asked "massage?", and then shown directly to the waiting room where i changed into bathrobe and slippers, then showered. *there was no discussion of price, although in a little box in the waiting room was a price list showing the general prices for facility use (minimum charge 198rmb), each 40 minutes of "body work" (300rmb), and a variety of prices for things like foot massages.

after showering i had to wait about 20 more minutes before a suit came to show me to my massage. to my surprise, i was not given a choice of girls, but was rather just shown the one i would have. *although i wasn't thrilled with her (#260) at first (short and curvy), i decided to just go with the flow and enjoy myself. *she led me to the room, undressed, and proceeded very quickly to a bbbj and fs. *i found her kissing especially good, and while she did not put on a fake show of enthusiasm with lots of noises (which i hate), she was very affectionate and enjoyable to be with. she turned out to have a great ass, nice big hairy bush, and small a-cups with fantastic small but very perky nipples.

anyway, after the first pop, she proceeded with the catbath which i really enjoyed. *then another pop, and finally a very nice massage to end things. *i didn't linger to enjoy food or drinks in the relax area, because i wanted to have plenty of time to make my train. *so i showered, dressed (note you must ask the attendant to open your locker since both keys, his and yours, are needed), and headed out to the front desk.

damage was 600rmb, which was less than the 698 i was expecting, and much less than the 798 list price. *i presume this discount was because the place was so busy (about 10 japanese businessmen in the showers when i was) that i had no choice of girls.

anyway this was a great experience and while i'm not totally sure it's my thing, it was definitely worth trying once. for my kind of dirty mind, nothing beats the raunchy and all-you-can-fuck atmosphere of a german partytreff, but for a relaxing and enjoyable release in a very luxurious atmosphere, heting certainly fits the bill.

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dear forum,

thanks in advance for your patience, as this will be my first post, and i hope it conforms with all the rules.

i have been in shanghai for a week now, and this was my first time in china, so it took me a while to get acclimated.

my choice of lodgings was the dongfu guest house, which through hotels.com i booked for 55 usd per night, which i gather is a good deal. although i initially planned to take advantage of dragon d's tour service, the fact that my hotel was small and had a very serious looking security desk put me off the idea of bringing freelancers to my room. especially having read the various posts on here about le being called even to 5-star hotels; i couldn't stomach the risk.

instead i decided to get down and dirty in a bbs, since in the past i have found this sort of quicky action in rundown settings (think downtown in madrid or in the parks on the outskirts of köln) really works for me. *so, yesterday, after searching the shanghai forum for "bbs", i saw that one poster had pointed out songfa metro up in baoshan district had more than 15 bbs nearby, and currently in operation despite the downtown crackdown. *late in the afternoon (around 7pm), i arrived at songfa metro, and, not knowing which way to go, headed west on songfa road. *this path immediately passes a small commercial zone on the right, with two very legitimate looking barbershops with male barbers at work on numerous customers. *the road then crosses a small stinky canal, then goes through a very quiet residential area. about 1km from the metro is the intersection of songnan road, which is the heart of a sizeable commercial district. walking north and south on this road, i covered the whole little area, and indeed saw upwards of 15 barber shops. *

however, this being my first time in china, i was still underinformed about how these places work and how they should look. in most i saw a combination of men and a few women barbers, cutting peoples hair. *obviously that can't be the sole purpose of these shops, given that they made up a good 20% of the businesses in the area. but i was confused by the low number of women visible, the fact that they were not dressed slutty or sexy, and the fact that despite my peering into all these places, i wasn't beckoned inside. *anyway, especially being completely bald, i figured that if i was beckoned inside, it would be because they knew what i was looking for! my mandarin is very limited and i was not excited about trying to explain in vain what i wanted. *so in the end, i headed home a little frustrated.

today i was supposed to catch a train to hangzhou, but when i arrived at shanghai south station around 11am, i was told everything was sold out until 7pm. *so, i went back to the boards in search of a suggestion that would be easier for a first-timer. *i saw the great reviews of heting elite, and decided to make that my next attempt.

i took the number 10 metro to siping road station, and then walked south along the west side of that street until i came to number 777, which had a huge sign above the building reading heting elite. *the doormen showed me to the elevator, and upstairs the lobby was filled with very serious looking employees in dark suits with walkie-talkies. *

the conversation upon arrival was minimal, i was simply asked "massage?", and then shown directly to the waiting room where i changed into bathrobe and slippers, then showered. *there was no discussion of price, although in a little box in the waiting room was a price list showing the general prices for facility use (minimum charge 198rmb), each 40 minutes of "body work" (300rmb), and a variety of prices for things like foot massages.

after showering i had to wait about 20 more minutes before a suit came to show me to my massage. to my surprise, i was not given a choice of girls, but was rather just shown the one i would have. *although i wasn't thrilled with her (#260) at first (short and curvy), i decided to just go with the flow and enjoy myself. *she led me to the room, undressed, and proceeded very quickly to a bbbj and fs. *i found her kissing especially good, and while she did not put on a fake show of enthusiasm with lots of noises (which i hate), she was very affectionate and enjoyable to be with. she turned out to have a great ass, nice big hairy bush, and small a-cups with fantastic small but very perky nipples.

anyway, after the first pop, she proceeded with the catbath which i really enjoyed. *then another pop, and finally a very nice massage to end things. *i didn't linger to enjoy food or drinks in the relax area, because i wanted to have plenty of time to make my train. *so i showered, dressed (note you must ask the attendant to open your locker since both keys, his and yours, are needed), and headed out to the front desk.

damage was 600rmb, which was less than the 698 i was expecting, and much less than the 798 list price. *i presume this discount was because the place was so busy (about 10 japanese businessmen in the showers when i was) that i had no choice of girls.

anyway this was a great experience and while i'm not totally sure it's my thing, it was definitely worth trying once. for my kind of dirty mind, nothing beats the raunchy and all-you-can-fuck atmosphere of a german partytreff, but for a relaxing and enjoyable release in a very luxurious atmosphere, heting certainly fits the bill.

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Dear folks in Shanghai

This is probably will be my one and only post about mongering in Shanghai as I doubt I will get the chance to be there again at least within the next 3 years. Thus, all that is written here maybe do not conform to any general experience in the forum.

In my three days of visit, I dropped by Heting Elite Sauna, Shanghai Hotel Sauna, Golden 18, and Sarcosa.

Heting Sauna has the best facility of all in term of room ambience, neatness, cleanliness. And boy, the girl I picked sure aimed to please. Damage was 698 RMB. Pretty decent food and drink provided. Thats a plus.

Shanghai Hotel sauna is pretty much half legit. It was not something unpleasant to be scrubbed my old uncle as he probably scrubbed half kilo worth of dead skin from me. But I would love to if they at least forgo the policy of me being buck naked (I did cover up *ahem*). The selection then was a true disappointment. But the manicurist was a real professional and did good job (1st timer) albeit probably way too overpriced. Bottom line, did not have any good experience there.

Sarcosa has dank room for a start, and that left me with not so wonderful feeling. The girls... probably I had a bad timing thing. I have only average pick and not satisfying experience.

G18 sauna experience is way too overpriced for not so good soapie work. The room is huge though, and thats the only saving grace. The girl I picked is pretty good looking but not very good performer.

In all, the best sauna experince I had was in Heting.

A small note however. The whole china can remove the buck naked rule in Sauna. This is beside the report point. But I thought it is worth sharing.

The best sauna I ever had would be in Alexis Jakarta. They could do away with giving you shorts when you dip in and any number of towels you want to flung. And the girls... one I had sure perform like a porn star that really enjoys her work.

I spent a couple hours each night to visit Manhattan, Judy's and Malone. So far Manhattan has the best number of girls and quality wise too. I did picked a girl on the last night, a sweet petite Vietnamese girl at 900RMB.

I guess I am setting the bar way too high in this case. But I am not fully content with the whole action in Shanghai. Sorry if I injure any personal feelings. The experience was good. But not satisfying enough.

I was in town last week, and I spent one night over at Judy's and Malone's on Tuesday before business drew me out of the city. Got hit up on by a tranny at Judy's (no I didn't bite) and Malone's had a good Phillipino band, but little wg action. I was approached by one, but she just wasn't my type. As she was older and not in great shape.

On Friday, I returned to the city and found my way to Manhattan arriving around 11pm. The place was pretty packed with around 20-30 wgals and an equal number of western business folk like myself. I thought that in general, the girls there were pretty nice, and of course a few came up to chit chat. Mostly Viet and Phillipino and thus not in country too long.

I explained that I come to SH regularly, but still whenever the discussion turned to $, I was quoted 2000rmb, which easily got down to 1500 for LT, but wouldn't easily move much lower. A young hottie from Indonesia said most girls there are ST, and she quoted me 700 for 2 hours, which I almost went for because she was pretty hot.

So, finally I told a couple of them that my price was 900 for LT, and if they felt confident they could make more elsewhere, then they were free to roam around but I would be waiting at the bar. I was enjoying people watching, having a few beers, and listening to some average musical entertainment. The girls would stop back by every 30 min or so, and I would tease them that my price was soon to be dropping to 800, which they got a kick out of.

Finally, I landed a short, skinny Viet for 1000 and headed back to the hotel, and by this time it was 2am. I stayed at the IC-pudong in a nice club-level room. When I arrived at the hotel, they "checked" her in, requiring her passport.

I had some fun, crashed out woke up around 5am had some more fun, and then she left. Action was ok, BBBJ, covered multiple positions, but she lacked real passion and GFE. The next day I was busy with friends from work, and I was exhausted the whole day.

I have to say that I was impressed by the girls at Manhattans, but I am a bit saddened to say that I didn't negotiate better. I was told that midweek has much better pricing than Fri/Sat night.

[QUOTE=Ira Johnson]There may be better choices, but here's what I'd do if I was stuck in Songjiang and needed a quick fix.

...and pardon me for not remembering more details...

Take line 9 to the Qibao stop. not sure which exit, but when you emerge into the open air and face the street that the exit opens onto, there will be a big shopping center across the cross street to your left. Turn right and head away from that. Walk a couple blocks and soon you will see a series of three or four pink BBS on your right. PM me if we need to discuss further.

Uncle Ira may work in Songjiang but he lives in the city and is surely thankful for that.[/QUOTE]Ok. Thank u. I know the shopping center in qibao, just, the last time there I didn't see the bbs.

Actually I didn' understand very well in which direction go, but I will check sooner.

I know some will be pissed, but I searched, I searched. I swear. I didn't see anything recent (this year). I apologize upfront. Please forgive a horny bastard.

I just found the site and have recently moved to Shanghai. Looking for BBS (barber shop) info near Hongqiao Road. Not very familiar with the area yet, as I have only been here two days. But Hongqiao near that big building that houses the television station and near the intersection with Songyuan road. That general area would be great. Anywhere near Gubei. Heck. Anywhere!

[QUOTE=Ynot1]I just found the site and have recently moved to Shanghai........ Looking for BBS (barber shop) info near Hongqiao Road. Not very familiar with the area yet, as I have only been here two days........Anywhere![/QUOTE]So you are now living in Shanghai - and you are asking for info on BBS right?

Here is a suggestion - get off your arse after dark tonight and start walking.

I guarantee within 30 minutes you will find what you are looking for.

After you have scouted your immediate area daily over the nest week or so jump back in this forum and post your findings.

[quote=hair lover]dear forum,

thanks in advance for your patience, as this will be my first post, and i hope it conforms with all the rules.

i have been in shanghai for a week now, and this was my first time in china, so it took me a while to get acclimated.

my choice of lodgings was the dongfu guest house, which through hotels.com i booked for 55 usd per night, which i gather is a good deal. although i initially planned to take advantage of dragon d's tour service, the fact that my hotel was small and had a very serious looking security desk put me off the idea of bringing freelancers to my room. especially having read the various posts on here about le being called even to 5-star hotels; i couldn't stomach the risk.

instead i decided to get down and dirty in a bbs, since in the past i have found this sort of quicky action in rundown settings (think downtown in madrid or in the parks on the outskirts of köln) really works for me. *so, yesterday, after searching the shanghai forum for "bbs", i saw that one poster had pointed out songfa metro up in baoshan district had more than 15 bbs nearby, and currently in operation despite the downtown crackdown. *late in the afternoon (around 7pm), i arrived at songfa metro, and, not knowing which way to go, headed west on songfa road. *this path immediately passes a small commercial zone on the right, with two very legitimate looking barbershops with male barbers at work on numerous customers. *the road then crosses a small stinky canal, then goes through a very quiet residential area. about 1km from the metro is the intersection of songnan road, which is the heart of a sizeable commercial district. walking north and south on this road, i covered the whole little area, and indeed saw upwards of 15 barber shops. *

however, this being my first time in china, i was still underinformed about how these places work and how they should look. in most i saw a combination of men and a few women barbers, cutting peoples hair. *obviously that can't be the sole purpose of these shops, given that they made up a good 20% of the businesses in the area. but i was confused by the low number of women visible, the fact that they were not dressed slutty or sexy, and the fact that despite my peering into all these places, i wasn't beckoned inside. *anyway, especially being completely bald, i figured that if i was beckoned inside, it would be because they knew what i was looking for! my mandarin is very limited and i was not excited about trying to explain in vain what i wanted. *so in the end, i headed home a little frustrated.

today i was supposed to catch a train to hangzhou, but when i arrived at shanghai south station around 11am, i was told everything was sold out until 7pm. *so, i went back to the boards in search of a suggestion that would be easier for a first-timer. *i saw the great reviews of heting elite, and decided to make that my next attempt.

i took the number 10 metro to siping road station, and then walked south along the west side of that street until i came to number 777, which had a huge sign above the building reading heting elite. *the doormen showed me to the elevator, and upstairs the lobby was filled with very serious looking employees in dark suits with walkie-talkies. *

the conversation upon arrival was minimal, i was simply asked "massage?", and then shown directly to the waiting room where i changed into bathrobe and slippers, then showered. *there was no discussion of price, although in a little box in the waiting room was a price list showing the general prices for facility use (minimum charge 198rmb), each 40 minutes of "body work" (300rmb), and a variety of prices for things like foot massages.

after showering i had to wait about 20 more minutes before a suit came to show me to my massage. to my surprise, i was not given a choice of girls, but was rather just shown the one i would have. *although i wasn't thrilled with her (#260) at first (short and curvy), i decided to just go with the flow and enjoy myself. *she led me to the room, undressed, and proceeded very quickly to a bbbj and fs. *i found her kissing especially good, and while she did not put on a fake show of enthusiasm with lots of noises (which i hate), she was very affectionate and enjoyable to be with. she turned out to have a great ass, nice big hairy bush, and small a-cups with fantastic small but very perky nipples.

anyway, after the first pop, she proceeded with the catbath which i really enjoyed. *then another pop, and finally a very nice massage to end things. *i didn't linger to enjoy food or drinks in the relax area, because i wanted to have plenty of time to make my train. *so i showered, dressed (note you must ask the attendant to open your locker since both keys, his and yours, are needed), and headed out to the front desk.

damage was 600rmb, which was less than the 698 i was expecting, and much less than the 798 list price. *i presume this discount was because the place was so busy (about 10 japanese businessmen in the showers when i was) that i had no choice of girls.

anyway this was a great experience and while i'm not totally sure it's my thing, it was definitely worth trying once. for my kind of dirty mind, nothing beats the raunchy and all-you-can-fuck atmosphere of a german partytreff, but for a relaxing and enjoyable release in a very luxurious atmosphere, heting certainly fits the bill.

[b][u]editor's note[/u]:[/b] [blue]i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]click here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/quote]


you were charged that cause its the price before 7pm. i went to a place off wuning lu that had some nice talent as well. nice report though.

pc out

pc out

[quote=hair lover]dear forum,

but i was confused by the low number of women visible, the fact that they were not dressed slutty or sexy, and the fact that despite my peering into all these places, i wasn't beckoned inside. [/quote]real fs bbs will always have slutty looking girls. i'd post a video of what a non-fs barber shop would look like but i'm limited to 390kb of upload.

[QUOTE=Ynot1]I know some will be pissed, but I searched, I searched. I swear. I didn't see anything recent (this year). I apologize upfront. Please forgive a horny bastard.

I just found the site and have recently moved to Shanghai. Looking for BBS (barber shop) info near Hongqiao Road. Not very familiar with the area yet, as I have only been here two days. But Hongqiao near that big building that houses the television station and near the intersection with Songyuan road. That general area would be great. Anywhere near Gubei. Heck. Anywhere![/QUOTE]Unfortunately shanghai is not like the old days where the streets were a rabbit warren of pink lights. You need to know the right areas to look and that's difficult as a newcomer. Bbs's form sedimentary deposists under fairly specific conditions. There are still many places around, many still clustered. Search the forum - some of the clusters have moved or shut down but many are still there, only you don't get huge lineups of pretty young girls as often. FS is often a waste of time in those places. Better having a cheap HJ. For better or worse it's never going to be what it used to be.

If you're feeling adventurous just get in a taxi and point to any random area on shanghai's map outside the city core. There are still a lot of bbs's serving all the locals out there.

Bbs are almost always found on side streets close enough, but not too close, to major roads in mixed use areas. You won't find them on a street with all motor repair shops, all clothes shops or all small restaurants. You need to search areas that have a few of each, are on a quiet street close to residential areas where they can ensnare middle age locals going for their evening stroll. I've noticed them close to where construction crews are working too. I don't know if this will help you find places but might make you think about what places to avoid. A bike is your friend - you can cover more ground.

Unscheduled trip to the Qingzhen lu spa (thanks again Cal8). My favorite milf wasn't there, so I went with a younger (albiet chunkier substitute - pretty face though). Takes me to the private room in the back so I thought no problem, service will be the same. Nice massage, paying a little attention to my ass, so all was well. Then the flip. She motions if I want a HJ or BJ, but I point to her pussy. She says cannot cannot, holds up her left hand, trying to indicate she's married (but - didn't she just offer me a BJ?). Anyway, I told her I didn't want, no problem. She was a little bemused at this point, there was 1/2 hour remaining, so she proceeded to start a HJ anyway. As she's working me, my hand finds it's way under her skirt and after a few minutes (and a couple faux protests) my fingers are massaging her clit. Her legs were pretty close together to begin, but as we progressed, she relaxed a bit and started squatting to push her (now very wet) pussy into my hand. I could tell from the look on her face she was enjoying it, but still no dice, she wasn't going to fuck. No problem, time's up, off to the shower, she actually helped wash me :)

As I'm toweling off, the door opens and guess who? Yep, the FS milf. After admonishig me for not calling first, she takes me back into the room and begins her routine. Now I'm wondering, how much is this going to cost me... She does the full massage, then the full service ;) And assists with the shower also.

Kisses and smiles, now time to pay up. She charged me the usual rate, and only RMB100 for the other girl's time. She also told me that the other girl was too fat for me ;)

All in all, two good massages, and some quality time between a hot milf's legs. Works for me!

[QUOTE=Mike921]Unscheduled trip to the Qingzhen lu spa (thanks again Cal8). My favorite milf wasn't there, so I went with a younger (albiet chunkier substitute - pretty face though). Takes me to the private room in the back so I thought no problem, service will be the same. Nice massage, paying a little attention to my ass, so all was well. Then the flip. She motions if I want a HJ or BJ, but I point to her pussy. She says cannot cannot, holds up her left hand, trying to indicate she's married (but - didn't she just offer me a BJ?). Anyway, I told her I didn't want, no problem. She was a little bemused at this point, there was 1/2 hour remaining, so she proceeded to start a HJ anyway. As she's working me, my hand finds it's way under her skirt and after a few minutes (and a couple faux protests) my fingers are massaging her clit. Her legs were pretty close together to begin, but as we progressed, she relaxed a bit and started squatting to push her (now very wet) pussy into my hand. I could tell from the look on her face she was enjoying it, but still no dice, she wasn't going to fuck. No problem, time's up, off to the shower, she actually helped wash me :)

As I'm toweling off, the door opens and guess who? Yep, the FS milf. After admonishig me for not calling first, she takes me back into the room and begins her routine. Now I'm wondering, how much is this going to cost me... She does the full massage, then the full service ;) And assists with the shower also.

Kisses and smiles, now time to pay up. She charged me the usual rate, and only RMB100 for the other girl's time. She also told me that the other girl was too fat for me ;)

All in all, two good massages, and some quality time between a hot milf's legs. Works for me![/QUOTE]

Mike:
Nice report, shows everyone how hit and miss things can be in even the same place. Worked out very nicely for you without spending a fortune.

I know everyone talks about a crackdown in Shanghai due to Expo but there really is action to be found out there by just RTFF. Qingzhen Lu is just a short walk from a Metro station so accessible to all.

Cal8

Ah the good ol days... I lived a 2 blocks from there back then. Just a quick 5 min walk away from a good night. :-)

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]Hallelujah brother - Hallelujah.

Unless you actually saw MaoMing Lu in all it's glory - you just would not understand - a warm night - literally hundreds of w.hores just for the picking - heaven on earth.

And throw the fucking Vietnamese into the equation with the Pilipinos - damn Manhattan nowadays not a shadow of it's former past.

Remember Judys and Manhattan on MaoMing Lu - wall to wall Chinese, Russian and a sprinkling of Mongolian - damn I loved those bars - damn I miss those bars.[/QUOTE]

After reading the good stuff about Heting, i gave it a try today around 5pm.
Excellent hardware i would say. However i just want to remind two things there:
1. You have to take the shower by yourself and in other words the girl just will not shower with u (well, in some circumstances, i prefer shower together, first for servicing, second to ensure cleaniness for the girl)
2. It only accept cash (its quite funny as both my friend and myself dont have enough cash and they dont accept credit card, finally they ask a guy to bring us to a nearby atm machine to withdraw cash and then come back to the reception for payment)
Assume you dont need a receipt, if you leave (i mean payment) before 7 pm, rmb 600 is the damage.

[QUOTE=Bad Boy Billy]So you are now living in Shanghai - and you are asking for info on BBS right?

Here is a suggestion - get off your arse after dark tonight and start walking.

I guarantee within 30 minutes you will find what you are looking for.

After you have scouted your immediate area daily over the nest week or so jump back in this forum and post your findings.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the help [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]. I am sure you're one bad boy. After living in three Asian countries and probably playing this game more times than you sucked your mommas tit, even I find it hard to recognize places in new countries.

Why don't you jump back and shut the fuck up unless you can contribute.

If thats a problem for you, I will be happy to help you, BadBoy

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited in accordance with the Forum's Zero Tolerance policy regarding reports containing any [u]personal attacks or derogatory comments[/u] directed towards another Forum Member or the Forum Membership in general.[/blue]

[QUOTE=Ynot1]After living in three Asian countries and probably playing this game more times than you sucked your mommas tit, even I find it hard to recognize places in new countries...........Why don't you jump back and shut the fuck up unless you can contribute.[/QUOTE]So you have lived in 3 Asian countries but you have contributed ZERO to this site - you have 2 posts only to your name - one post asking for help in Shanghai - the other post telling Billy he is a prick - don't be afraid to give before you expect to take my friend..

You have played the game more times than I have sucked my mommas tit? But you have contributed ZERO to this site.

Yes I should shut up if I cannot contribute - ok another 2 pics from my last visit to Shanghai - both these w.hores from Manhattan.

I will be back for another 2 nights Aug 30 and 31 - will be in Manhattan both nights - just look for some guy who still desires to suck on his mommas tit.

You always get the best girls. I really like the one with the leopard shoes.

I always enjoy your messages. You have a great way of getting you point across.

Biandoe

My visits to China are few and far between but I always manage to have a good time when in Shanghai; big shout-out to all you Shanghai forum contributors.

Special thanks to those who posted directions to the Heting. #237 (?) is a wild girl. Tall (ish), thin and makes up for tiny breasts with an enthusiastic performance. Really wanted to try out the short red haired chick, but she was taken on my second visit. Maybe next time.

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"I will be back for another 2 nights Aug 30 and 31 - will be in Manhattan both nights - just look for some guy who still desires to suck on his mommas tit"

Yea, bad boy indeed

[QUOTE=White Dragon]Unfortunately shanghai is not like the old days where the streets were a rabbit warren of pink lights. You need to know the right areas to look and that's difficult as a newcomer. Bbs's form sedimentary deposists under fairly specific conditions. There are still many places around, many still clustered. Search the forum - some of the clusters have moved or shut down but many are still there, only you don't get huge lineups of pretty young girls as often. FS is often a waste of time in those places. Better having a cheap HJ. For better or worse it's never going to be what it used to be.

If you're feeling adventurous just get in a taxi and point to any random area on shanghai's map outside the city core. There are still a lot of bbs's serving all the locals out there.

Bbs are almost always found on side streets close enough, but not too close, to major roads in mixed use areas. You won't find them on a street with all motor repair shops, all clothes shops or all small restaurants. You need to search areas that have a few of each, are on a quiet street close to residential areas where they can ensnare middle age locals going for their evening stroll. I've noticed them close to where construction crews are working too. I don't know if this will help you find places but might make you think about what places to avoid. A bike is your friend - you can cover more ground.[/QUOTE]Thanks White Dragon. This helped me locate a couple places near where I live. Unfortunately, I was with some workmates, but will give them a try very soon.

[QUOTE=Ynot1]

Yea, bad boy indeed[/QUOTE]

Well done Ynot1, pride of place on my ignore list after only four "contributions"

Reading your post made me think about World plaza,

Used to be in Pudong nan lu, in the ÊÀ½ç¹ã³¡ building, on B1 floor.

Best place I have ever been to. Girls were so well trained, all GF experience and customers always happy, no clock watching.

I am still in contact with a few girls that used to work there, but I would love the mama to come back as she is the best coach ever.

Unfortunately, during a crack down the girls (and customers) were taken to the police station and the mamasan took advantage of the situation to take all girls personal effects and fade away. The place has been closed since and will probably never open again (I don't know what type of shop is there now).

Sacrosa is not a bad place but not even close as far as service.

There is a very cool BBS I like in Puxi, DingXi road, girls are great looking and FS for 250rmb, a place to try. This is my contribution for the day and for having me think once again about this fantastic world plaze.

SC

[QUOTE=Jj1973]Having RTFF and seen the countless number of posts all going on about the same thing, asking people to read RTFF, I thought it would be a good idea to try and put some useful information in one post as it did take me long time to sift through the reports and get the required information.

It is all there, and the search function does help, it just takes time.

Hopefully this will therefore be useful.

A couple of points from the outset.

1 ¨C I had no problem accessing ISG from my hotel.

2 ¨C I took a girl back one night, getting to the hotel at about 1am. There was no need to register the girl. I just walked in holding her hand and went straight to the elevator. Whilst I cannot pretend to be experienced in Shanghai, the sex trade is an important part of the Chinese economy and hotel staff probably do not care. It may be different in lower end hotels, but I was in a 5 star hotel and had no problems.

3 ¨C I only visited Heting Elite and a couple of bars, namely Malones and Manhattan although I have put some additional information in my report as I had done the research.

Sauna / Massage

Heting Elite ¨C 3/F, 777 Si Ping Road ¨C this place is awesome and whilst I have nothing to compare it to, the place was like walking into a 5 star hotel spa. Having tried this place, I am not that bothered about trying other places, although, no doubt, in time I will.

Golden 18 (G18) ¨C corner of Nanjing Xi Lu and Wulumuqi Bei Lu

Yu Ping ¨C 999 Tianyaoqiao Lu

Zhonglian ¨C could not find address in the forum¨C perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

World plaza. Could not find address in the forum¨C perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Sacrosa ¨C 5/F, Hua Shan Tower, 1085 Pudou Road (S)

Tomson. Could not find address in the forum¨C perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Tianhao ¨C 978 Gu Mei Lu

Shanghai Hotel sauna. Could not find address in the forum¨C perhaps someone would be kind enough to complete

Bars

Manhattan ¨C 154 Nan Yang Road. Great bar, filled with plenty of girls. Was fortunate enough to meet an American in Malones (see later) who suggested that I don't choose a girl from Malones until I have at least been to Manhattan ¨C I am glad he did and I followed his advice.

Ended up taking a nice Vietnamese girl back to my hotel for RMB 1000. Had a great time and carried on with another session in the morning. She left at about 6am which was great as it allowed me to get some sleep as I had a meeting later that day

Judy's. 99-3 Xi Kang Lu ¨C did not go here so can't comment.

Malones. Tongren Lu ¨C walking distance from Malones ¨C was not that busy ¨C saw a lovely girl, looked to be Chinese, arranged to meet her later for RMB 1000 overnight ¨C was just hedging my bets in case Manhattan was not as described by my new found American friend ¨C I need not have worried.

So, for all the newbies, there you have a list of places to get you started, but as the more senior guys say, there is no excuse or substitute for doing your own research. I did, so the information is there, just try not to be so lazy.

One final note to the moderators. There really is great deal of rubbish posts in the forum saying RTFF. It does make finding relevant information incredibly time consuming. It may be a good idea to tidy up the forum a little and delete some of the rubbish. By all means keep some of the posts saying RTFF, as it makes the point, but how many times do you need to say it.

I hope my last point does not offend anyone, as that is the last thing I would want to do, after all, it is down to you guys that I found the information in the first place and ended up having a great time in Shanghai.

Look forward to coming back and trying some new places.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

Heting is really an incredible place. However only had a 2 girl line up. Quite easy to get to. Follow the recent posts intructions. As one of the previous contributors mentioned, bring enough cash.

Hai Lang is at zhong Shan xi lu(west). Not as easy to get to. My first attempt, the cab driver didn't know how to go. I sugggest getting on the metro to shanghai indoor stadium. Get out and hop on a cab and head down the road to 1277. This us a block of shops. Walk back towards the station and go to the back. There is a reception area. Not as posh but they have redrope. The line up for a Saturday was impressive. About 20 girls at about 2pm. Chose 916. Shower inroom and sh convinced me to get another girl. For 400 more. Total 1080. Nut I don't advise that. After the deed, they sort of neglected me and were chatting about something personal. But still good.

Enjoy and keep safe.

Ok ive read the forum; sent PM to some member as well as still have not been able to solve the problem.

Because of the crackdown I do not want to visit the saunas (so no Henting Elite, Sarcosa, Boan Hotel and Shanghai Hotel) seeeee I have RTFF!!

For bars Im been able to guess Malones, Manhattans and Judy.

However this questions keeps coming up from new members but which hotels has working women at the bars of their hotels. Yes I know this will be more expensive than the bars and quality will be low but any suggestion would be helpful.

So hotels (3 or 4 star) with bars that offer women. Any suggestions? I plan to stay at the hotel and sample the bar!

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]

There is a very cool BBS I like in Puxi, DingXi road, girls are great looking and FS for 250rmb, a place to try. This is my contribution for the day and for having me think once again about this fantastic world plaze.

SC[/QUOTE]Any more specifics? North or south of yan an Lu? I only know of 1 bbs on dingxi Lu near xinhua Lu but it is not as you describe. I think there are some legit spa/massage places closer towards Zhongshan park but have seen much else on Dingxi?

My apologies for the typo errors. I am using my iphone. My first report was done in a hurry whilst at the airport.

With regards to hotels. I was a Ramada Plaza Pudong. There was a bar but it was quite. I think there was a karaoke next door but I didn't go in. Was with colleagues. The surrounding areas had a few massage places. Went to one and tried it. Called Pattaya. Tried the oil massage by a youngish girl. She didn't offer any extra services. Her frontal massage didn't roam too low. Althoughi already went to hai lang earlier in the day. I was very tired that day. I fell asleep. I tried askingbif the more posh VIP room had any difference but she didn't say.

Just to stress that a 2 gjrl combo maybe a waste of time. Although the rimming wasvery deep in hailang. There was also the adjoining shower and soap massage.

I don't have the full address but google "hai lang shanghai sauna". You should be able to get the full address in chines as well.

Heting is really posh. Hai lang slightly run down. Both are good. I checked with the girls. Hailang girls are in a room whete they can't see you.

I also asked if they had raids and they said no.

So have fun

Hi: I will be visiting Shanghai. I usually play around in DG area, but due to the crackdown. I have to move north. So I am thinking of hitting Heting, Shanghai Hotel, and JeYuan. I know the price is 700 and up for a session, but is it one pop and mult. Pop?

Appreciate someone answer this question.

Thanks

I visited Hai Long (my first ever visit to such a place in mainland China)

Wow – I now see what I've been missing all these months. I actually thought the place was very clean, not run down at all. I was walked straight in – it is hard to find as the sign is not illuminated out front but follow others directions and the numbers and you'll find it. Just give can the number of the street, don't ask to be driven in as it's a bit tricky to find, especially if you can't speak Chinese. I showered and was lead to the waiting room and then the line up. There would have been 20 girls in there on a Sunday night – it was jam packed and a bit overwhelming at first. One smiled at me so I said – alright – her!

I'd tried to go a Sunday before and was told it was just foot massage. Anyways – it was on tonight. I chose 852 I think, she was a cute little girl with a reasonable rack 7 and a pretty good body, 7. She wasn't super thin but I think I could do better next time. They can't see you so you in the line I worked out, as when I was done choosing they all ran to the window to try and get a look at me. So you can feel free to take your time. This girl didn't speak a word – other than "I love you" which was quite annoying at the end to be honest as she'd said it non-stop all session.

We started with the shower where you lie down on the inflatable mattress, she gives a great body bath and plays with your cock a bit. She gave a little head but was more interested in cleaning both me and her from top to bottom. This went on a while, but you can't beat cleanliness.

Once the shower was over we got back into the adjoining room. I lay flat on my stomach and she gave me an amazing rim job, she actually seemed to love it, I did as well, so she kept going. I kneeled up and she pulled me off (or down) as she was licking me. Great stuff! I was fingering her and she was wet immediately, and was getting right into it.

She then gave me the red rope experience, where she hangs from the roof via red robes, with my dick in her mouth, spinning and sucking, spinning and sucking. I'd never had this before and it's quite an experience, but I don't think I'd bother again. It's more of a trick and I was trying not to blow so I could get down to the real stuff. I wasn't sure if they'd let me have two, so didn't want to waste the first!

She staddled me after putting a dinger on me. Again I felt she was right into it and didn't do the 'oww it's hurting' bit which I've had every time I've been out to places in Macau. Understand if it's true and that's cool, but it's usually a ploy to keep things really slow and gentle. I'm above average but western girls don't seem to have any issues. This girl certainly didn't which was a big plus and got me very excited.

We moved around a lot and she was cool with doggie, planned on ending with a CIM, but didn't get couldn't hold out! I think I'll try that next time.

As this place delivered on all requirements I don't think I'd bother trying to find another place – although if someone has tried Hai Long and can tell me another is even better then I'll get out the map and start hunting.

Cheers all and great to read your posts (from a first time poster)

[QUOTE=Miller Man]I visited Hai Long (my first ever visit to such a place in mainland China)

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Cheers all and great to read your posts (from a first time poster)[/QUOTE]great debute report!
thanks for taking the time

[QUOTE=Prince Darkness]Hi: I will be visiting Shanghai. I usually play around in DG area, but due to the crackdown. I have to move north. So I am thinking of hitting Heting, Shanghai Hotel, and JeYuan. I know the price is 700 and up for a session, but is it one pop and mult. Pop?

Appreciate someone answer this question.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Most places I go to have up to 80 mins. My experience is that SN tends to cut down the amount of time if the place is busy. You might have to try your luck to see if they offer 90 mins. In the old days, SH sauna VIP did offer 90 mins.

As for two pops, it depends on the girl and partly the establishment. If you can manage it, negotiate/ ask the manager and definitely talk to the girl.

Hello, everyone,

A friend of mine recommended a place to me in Shanghai where he met a great Viet girl, but he can't remember what it was called. Useless I know. However, he did provide a photo of a girl taken there. Reading the forums, it seems like there are only three or four places this could be. Does anyone recognize this place and can tell me for my upcoming trip?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mike666]Most places I go to have up to 80 mins. My experience is that SN tends to cut down the amount of time if the place is busy. You might have to try your luck to see if they offer 90 mins. In the old days, SH sauna VIP did offer 90 mins.

As for two pops, it depends on the girl and partly the establishment. If you can manage it, negotiate/ ask the manager and definitely talk to the girl.[/QUOTE]From my experience at Heting, the standard service session is 90 minutes long, and since they don't have the soapy massage service that means more action time for you.

I almost always get two pops there. 1 regular ejaculation through intercourse followed by a nice BJ after some rest and leg massage. But I usually get 2 girls and I go there in the afternoon, so maybe that could have something to do with their willingness too.

Usually the girls ask me whether I am up to the job for another go after the first round.

Oh. #200 has nice tits and gives the best BJ I got ever.

I had a lot of fun in Shanghai SNs over the past three years, but never ordered "room service" before.

I did have some experience with call girls in Beijing during my stay during the pre-Olympic season, unfortunately the experience was pretty bad.

I've noticed there is a Shanghai Classified section on China Daily, they look very enticing but might be too good to be true. Has anyone tried calling up these ladies?
[url]http://classifieds.chinadaily.com/?view=ads&catid=9&cityid=2&lang=en[/url]

Hey Fellows,

My first post here; I've read the forums for a little while. I would like to post a personal intro as is often advised, but not sure where to put it, please advise. For now just know that I'm China experienced but green when it comes to paid sex. Only did it twice so far.

I'm pretty picky with girls so I need a line-up (or better, several). The most satisfactory place I've found so far (after a little exploration) is JinHuiNan Lu; strangely I can't find anything about it here, so let me share.

It's a bit far out, about 15 mins and 25 kuai away from XuJiaHui, so probably a solid 30 if not 40 mins from the Bund. Get to the corner of Jin Hui Nan Lu and Yan An Xi Lu, (look for a big building called New Star for a visual anchor).

You enter the street, pass a few restaurants, and about 50 meters later, the BBSes start to appear. I estimate there is about 15 of them on a stretch of maybe 300 meters.

If you go there not too late in the night there are 4 to 8 girls in each so you get at least 50+ girls to choose from. Most of the girls are 6 or 7s but there is the occasional young 8 or 9.

The deed is done behind the shop or in a little house nearby. The atmosphere is of course seriously cheap, cramped and dirty, but I don't really mind.

The street looks a bit sketchy and is not always very brightly lit, so it may feel intimidating to China newbies, but it's a safe place

I've not seen many foreigners there. Mostly Asian clients it seems. Needless to say girls and pimps speak little to no English. My Chinese is good so this is no problem for me..

My first time was a few weeks ago. I only got a BJ, damage was 200 RMB. I was not asked to wear a condom.

My second time was yesterday, again only a BJ, damage was 300 RMB. She asked me to wear a condom for the BJ, and I obliged. This was I think a first for me, and actually it didn't affect me much.

What was a bit annoying in both cases was the girls seem to think I last a long time. They start to complain after literally 2-3 mins of BJ that I haven't come yet. How to handle this, I'm not sure - please let me know. I have just been firm and said something to the extent of "hiyaaa bu yao mafan" and let them continue. But it's a bit of a buzzkill.

I have a few questions for experienced members:

1) It's pretty hard to find BBSes that are ok with BJ only, which I prefer to do at this point (I'm scared of STDs). I've actually had pimps recoil in horror when I mentioned I only wanted a BJ, as if I was asking to get shit on or something. Most places refuse, which means I can only move on to the next one. Any idea why this is? Is it a cultural thing, or is it to maintain a higher price? What to do about it?

2) Regarding STDs, do you think cheap BBS like these are more of a risk?

3) Since the JinHui Lu BBSes are numerous and very much in the open, I would think the security (police) risk is low. They seem to be tolerated. Correct?

4) Am I getting ripped off at the price points mentioned (300 for BJ only), or am I doing OK?

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Hey Fellows,

2) Regarding STDs, do you think cheap BBS like these are more of a risk?[/QUOTE]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. 99% of them are STD aware and will not do FS without a condom.

[QUOTE]3) Since the JinHui Lu BBSes are numerous and very much in the open, I would think the security (police) risk is low. They seem to be tolerated. Correct?[/QUOTE]Pretty low. The chances are lower if they bring you back to an apartment near the BBS.

[QUOTE]4) Am I getting ripped off at the price points mentioned (300 for BJ only), or am I doing OK?[/QUOTE]It should be more like 50 for a BJ. FS is 150 on the outer fringes of the city, 200-250 in the main areas.

[QUOTE=Tasss]It should be more like 50 for a BJ. FS is 150 on the outer fringes of the city, 200-250 in the main areas.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I have tried to negotiate it down, in fact last time I discussed with a pimp for 10 mins and ending up walking away, hoping he would invite me to come back, but he didn't.

I'm young, dress casually, and I speak good Chinese, so I don't think I'm giving the impression of a clueless tourist. I try to hide the fact that I'm green as well ;-) and I'm not acting shy or anything.

So I'm at a loss as to how I would get the price down to 50, from my experience in that street at least. I have no experience with other BBS.

Any feedback appreciated.

[QUOTE=Carage]From my experience at Heting, the standard service session is 90 minutes long, and since they don't have the soapy massage service that means more action time for you.

I almost always get two pops there. 1 regular ejaculation through intercourse followed by a nice BJ after some rest and leg massage. But I usually get 2 girls and I go there in the afternoon, so maybe that could have something to do with their willingness too.

Usually the girls ask me whether I am up to the job for another go after the first round.

Oh. #200 has nice tits and gives the best BJ I got ever.[/QUOTE]

Whats the pricing for two girls?

[QUOTE=Miller Man]I visited Hai Long (my first ever visit to such a place in mainland China)

Wow – I now see what I've been missing all these months. I actually thought the place was very clean, not run down at all. I was walked straight in – it is hard to find as the sign is not illuminated out front but follow others directions and the numbers and you'll find it. Just give can the number of the street, don't ask to be driven in as it's a bit tricky to find, especially if you can't speak Chinese. I showered and was lead to the waiting room and then the line up. There would have been 20 girls in there on a Sunday night – it was jam packed and a bit overwhelming at first. One smiled at me so I said – alright – her!

I'd tried to go a Sunday before and was told it was just foot massage. Anyways – it was on tonight. I chose 852 I think, she was a cute little girl with a reasonable rack 7 and a pretty good body, 7. She wasn't super thin but I think I could do better next time. They can't see you so you in the line I worked out, as when I was done choosing they all ran to the window to try and get a look at me. So you can feel free to otake your time. This girl didn't speak a word – other than "I love you" which was quite annoying at the end to be honest as she'd said it non-stop all session.

We started with the shower where you lie down on the inflatable mattress, she gives a great body bath and plays with your cock a bit. She gave a little head but was more interested in cleaning both me and her from top to bottom. This went on a while, but you can't beat cleanliness.

Once the shower was over we got back into the adjoining room. I lay flat on my stomach and she gave me an amazing rim job, she actually seemed to love it, I did as well, so she kept going. I kneeled up and she pulled me off (or down) as she was licking me. Great stuff! I was fingering her and she was wet immediately, and was getting right into it.

She then gave me the red rope experience, where she hangs from the roof via red robes, with my dick in her mouth, spinning and sucking, spinning and sucking. I'd never had this before and it's quite an experience, but I don't think I'd bother again. It's more of a trick and I was trying not to blow so I could get down to the real stuff. I wasn't sure if they'd let me have two, so didn't want to waste the first!

She staddled me after putting a dinger on me. Again I felt she was right into it and didn't do the 'oww it's hurting' bit which I've had every time I've been out to places in Macau. Understand if it's true and that's cool, but it's usually a ploy to keep things really slow and gentle. I'm above average but western girls don't seem to have any issues. This girl certainly didn't which was a big plus and got me very excited.

We moved around a lot and she was cool with doggie, planned on ending with a CIM, but didn't get couldn't hold out! I think I'll try that next time.

As this place delivered on all requirements I don't think I'd bother trying to find another place – although if someone has tried Hai Long and can tell me another is even better then I'll get out the map and start hunting.

Cheers all and great to read your posts (from a first time poster)[/QUOTE]

Thanks for ur great post. Could u clarify:
1.How long is a session
2. Cost
Thanks

[QUOTE=Mike666]Whats the pricing for two girls?[/QUOTE]1200 if you pay by cash and leave before 7 PM.

[QUOTE=Tasss]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. QUOTE]

According to my info, all none shanghainese must carry a police registration card, and attend a full medical screening every six months. I know this is enforced in all massage establishments in Pudong, but never heard of it applied to secretaries etc. at the office.
fz

[QUOTE=Chill Out]So I'm at a loss as to how I would get the price down to 50, from my experience in that street at least. I have no experience with other BBS.[/QUOTE]Correction I think 50 is for HJ, 100 for BJ. If you're non-Chinese-looking you're definitely not getting these prices though. If you are Asian and want these prices see the previous post about the BBS line at Line 9 Qibao station - [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1052256&postcount=2393[/url]. Enjoy and report :)

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao][QUOTE=Tasss]I heard BBS girls get tested monthly. QUOTE]

According to my info, all none shanghainese must carry a police registration card, and attend a full medical screening every six months. I know this is enforced in all massage establishments in Pudong, but never heard of it applied to secretaries etc. at the office.

fz[/QUOTE]I'm not sure where you got your info, but I doubt it's validity.

Most of the migrant workers in Shanghai aren't registered even though are technically required to. At least most of the domestic helpers I know haven't registered, and technically they are not allowed to reside in Shanghai for long.

What you are saying if true, appears to be an implicit aknowledgement of prostitution by the police, which I doubt would ever happen in Shanghai.

A more detailed report on Heting and Hailang

I just want to tidy up my previous report on Heting and Hailang. This maybe a bit of a rehash of what others have reported.

Went to Heting on a Thursday afternoon at about 4pm. Go to the Siping Lu metro station. The cab drivers have little clue. tell them its the junction of Dalian Lu and Siping Lu. Head for the junction and walk on the west side of Siping Lu heading south. You can see the directions on the road signs.

Heting Elite is about maybe 200m down in a discrete black building with Heting elite sign above the entrance. The entrance is totally black. But there will be some guards coming out. They will escort you up to a very posh looking dimly-lit place where they will bring you to a room where you change and lock your things. They have one key and hand you one. There you change into the paper underwear and wait for them to bring you to the showers. At the showers, they will take your robe and you shower. After the shower, the guy will dry your back whilst you dry your front. then, they will bring you back to your room and wait for a while before they bring you to view the girls. They bring you to the room which is small and you meet your line u p. There was only 2 girls available. I didn't ask for more. They stand maybe 2metres from you. I picked this petite girl with boobs, maybe a B cup. She wasn't really smiling much but I didn't like the other one because she was a bit flat. Looks about a 7/8.

Went into a room where you disrobe, lie on your front and they do the catbath. Her boobs were maybe about a C and natural. She was a bit cold at first but she slowly warmed up. She said she was 20 and was from Dongbei. Then they clean your ass for the ass rimming. So far so good. Then she put on the rubber and she mounted and we changed a few positions. I didn't last very long. Subsequently, she did a bit of a rub of the legs and we chatted a bit. She lied by my side and subsequently she fell asleep. I was also tired s I rested as well. All in all, I was impressed with the set up and happy with the girl. I think her number was 168. the total time was 90min. After that, you go for a shower again and rest in the room where you kept your things. You can order food but they took a while, so I left. PAyment was at the front counter. Remember, cash only. The cost was 680. I will definitely try again.

Hailang is at Zhong Shan Xi Lu 1277
中山西路1277号海螺大厦.
If the forum doesn't show the chinese address, just google it(hailang sauna).

Its behind this row of shops . Taxis don't know it well. SO I took a metro to Shnaghai indoor stadium. I can't remember the exit but look at the metro exit maps for the road. Once you get out onto Zhong Shan Xi Lu proper, hop onto the cab and ask them to bring you to 1277. At 1277, there is a row of shops. Walk back towards the direction of the metro and there at the side is the sign in Chinese. head towards the sign and t here is another building. Turn left and walk 20m and you will hit the entrance. It is not as posh as heting but still very good. Some guy will meet you. They bring you straight to the lockers and the attendant will ask you if you want a shower first or shower above. You ask for the shower in the room. Then you leave your things and change into a robe and paper pants and they ask you to go upstairs. They will bring you tot the fish tank. I was there at about 230pm on Saturday and there was maybe 20 girls. I asked for a recommendation and he asked for the girls who were fresh to put up their hands. Chose 916, She had B cups and looks 7. Relativey bubbly. Went to the room and took off the robe and had the shower. YOu sit on the chair which was empty in the middle and they wash you. During the wash, she asked if I wanted to have a second girl. Since I rarely had a chance, I went for it. For the first girl, it was for 680 and an additional one for 400. So she came, did the soapy thing for a short while and then went to towel off and headed for the bed. The second girl(910) was also about a B cup and looks 7 as well. She was shorter and she prepared the red rope. She did it for maybe 2 rotations and then stopped. They then did the rimming with me on fours. One rimmed and the other gave me a BBBJ. The rimming was very deep and I was really turned on. Then they turned me around and mounted me. The short one first and I told her to slow down. The we changed, the tall one pulled off the condom and put on a new one. Then she mounted and I didn't last long.

After that they gave me a shabby massage and chatted themselves. a bit of a mistake but i wanted to try out 2 girls. I suppose I can chose two at the fishbowl. BUt it is quite an experience. I think I'll still to one next time. It was also for 90 mins.

Well, happy mongering and be safe!

"Thanks for your great post. Could you clarify:

1. How long is a session

2. Cost

Thanks"

To be honest. I can't recall how long it was. I assume 80min. I actually wasn't aware how long the session was allowed. Which was a bit annoying cu you're never sure if you've got time for another!

I think it was around 750RMB or thereabouts. I'm note the price and time next time.

[QUOTE=Tasss]If you're non-Chinese-looking you're definitely not getting these prices though. I[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?[/QUOTE]

Sure, laowai most always pays the 'tax' ;) I haven't experienced a fixed time at BBS - I think they're usually in a hurry for two reasons:
1) production (after all, BBS is the McD of sex and volume is critcal to profitibility)
2) potential LE activity - BBS don't have the staff and maze of rooms to give you time to look 'legal' (i.e.- get dressed) should LE enter the facility. Most times even for FS, the girl doesn't completely disrobe

Just need to enjoy BBS for what it is, fast, cheap, and sleazy ;)

Just my .02
Mike921

[QUOTE=Chill Out]Unfortunately, I'm white and not Chinese looking ;-) So does that mean the prices I've been getting are alright?

Also, if you go for FS in a BBS, how long does that last? In MP the standard seems to be 90 mins, I imagine that doesn't happen in BBS. Are you always getting rushed?[/QUOTE]For 300 you did OK. Being able to speak Chinese helps for sure. As Mike says there's no fixed time, though from my experience, you get just one pop and if you go for more than 20 min they start telling you to hurry up...unless she likes you.

I found though that BBSs in general are a better place to get take-out (meaning she meets you after closing time). Sauna girls are used to the higher prices, wealthier clients, 700-1000 a night. BBS girls will go for 500 a night. I also read Chinese forums similar to ISG. One poster said that he's able to get very good GFE out of a BBS girl after meeting her 3 times at her place of employment. As soon as she meets a quota of 5000 rmb/mo to the store, she's largely free to do as she likes, such as meeting you for GFE. Might not be a bad thing to try.

Mike: thanks for the feedback!

[QUOTE=Tasss]One poster said that he's able to get very good GFE out of a BBS girl after meeting her 3 times at her place of employment. [/QUOTE]Yeah that's what I was thinking. Meet a few good ones a few times, get their number, and then get them to come over straight to my place for the night. I was quoted 1000 RMB for the night by the BBS girl last time. Obviously too much. I'm not sure I would manage to get it for 500 though.

Went to the usual haunt last night, Mahattan's, Judy's, etc.
Manhattan's was it's usual packed self, but that was a noticeable absence of Pinays, I suspect as a result of the issue in Manila.
The place is chock full of Viet's and last week I hooked up with a world class performer. Nice gal, but still the propensity for a fast get away and "I miss understood you wanted LT". I hoped to find her again, make a better understanding, but she wasn't around. Decided to try Judy's, the last few times I have been here, I met a couple of real gems. There were only about 12 girls in the place (all Chinese and 2 ladyboys)and again, a dearth of Pinays, did make a nice find of a little spinner from Davao. She had only been in town 2 weeks, and was still "eager", enjoyed the session.
She did say that most of her friends were "sleeping" and not working for a few days.

It appears that I going to miss Bad Boy Billy's visit to Shanghai again next week, look forward to be around one of these times!

Hi there I am new on this forum.

I'm a asian guy from the Netherlands, 23years old.

I went to China for medical reasons (eye problems).

I am here for like 2 months now and it really sucksss!

I have only see hospitals and hospitals and alot of docters and nurses

Very depressing sigh.

Last year I went to Shanghai with my brother.

He showed me the really good places.

Places were you can get naughty (fuck) massages for like 200 to 400yen.

I am leaving on 7sept to the Netherlands.

And I will be in shanghai at 31 Sept.

So I will have like 6 days to enjoy myself.

But there is one big problem.

I cannot speak Chinese (mandarin).

So I am basicly a stranger in my own country, haha kind a sad.

I am looking for someone who can take me out to some nice massage parlours or hotels were they provide this kind of services, between 14:00 and 1:00.

I am willing to pay the cab ride and even the girl for the massage and sex.

Hope someone could help me out here.

Greetzz

I went to golden18 about 3 months ago to find out it was closed, no guard, went up using the stairs since the elevator was off. Found that golden18 was demolished, dont know if it was under renovation or they have closed the place down. Anyone have any information about it recently?

I almost forgot. I live in the Xu Hui District I live acros the Motel168 on Kai Xuan Road is close to Xujiahui Business Center and Shanghai Stadium, only 8km from Hongqiao Airport.

Maybe someone live's there nearby for the one who would like to show me around I'm willing to pay everything. The taxi, drinks and the girl for the massage etc etc.

I don't know how to contact someone I'm not allowed to drop my email on this board so I someone could send me a private message.

Then we can change phone numbers and hopely meet soon.

Grtzz

So what is really going on with the Expo in town? Are the typical spa places on lock down? I think I am understanding the answer to be "no" based on recent posts about G18 and Heting, but my local boy (white guy who has been here about 5 years permanently) is telling me places like the Merrylin have taken the fun stuff off the menu, and that the big painting is locked down until after the expo goes.

I am staring at the Merrylin as I type this and am tempted to check it out, maybe this weekend. What is the truth of the matter?

I think I want to try Mahattan as well, maybe do that tomorrow or wait until next week, but I have a concern. What do you do with your stuff if you bring a girl back for LT? I would not like my laptop or iphone to walk out in the middle of the night. Iphone is easy (room safe) but do I have to stash my shit someplace if I expect to get a wink of sleep?

Also, maybe a stupid question, but if I bring a girl back from Manhattan, will she bring condoms or should I stock up first to be sure?

[QUOTE=Para Dancer]Hi there I am new on this forum.

I'm a asian guy from the Netherlands, 23years old.

I went to China for medical reasons (eye problems).

I am here for like 2 months now and it really suckss!

I have only see hospitals and hospitals and alot of docters and nurses

Very depressing sigh.

Last year I went to Shanghai with my brother.

He showed me the really good places.

Places were you can get naughty (fuck) massages for like 200 to 400yen.

I am leaving on 7sept to the Netherlands.

And I will be in shanghai at 31 Sept.

So I will have like 6 days to enjoy myself.

But there is one big problem

I cannot speak Chinese (mandarin).

So I am basicly a stranger in my own country, haha kind a sad.

I am looking for someone who can take me out to some nice massage parlours or hotels were they provide this kind of services, between 14:00 and 1:00.

I am willing to pay the cab ride and even the girl for the massage and sex.

Hope someone could help me out here.

Greetzz[/QUOTE]So why you don't try to fuck a nurse? Kidding, you cracked my heart! Where are you now? Still in the hospital? I can send you a special nurse otherwise see you in October.

I just try'd to send an private message but unfortuanely you have to pay. And that really suckss big time!

Money is not the problem. But I don't have, and cannot use an credit card.

Really ugh. Facepalm.

Anyway am I allowed to leave my email adres on this website? If so., I will write it down tomorrow.
I just want to have some fun while I'm still in Shanghai.

You can read my story on these pages.

Hope you all understand and can help me.

Grtttzzz

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Greetings Everyone,

It would appear that Para Dancer...

1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...

2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...

3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...

4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.

Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Para Dancer, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/subscriptions.php?[/url]

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

1. I've never heard of any forum were you have to pay to use private message, but now I know that its exist.

2. I didn't know that your website was so populair, guess there are many people with the same hobby.

3 & 4 my main problem is that I cannot use an credit card.

I can afford 20$ no problem.

And I know it is alot of work to maintain such an site, so I can understand the 20$ bill

Is it possible for member who have an subscription to contact me?

Or do we both need to have subscriptions to contact each other?

If so I will try my luck elsewere, but I really enjoyed reading al the storys

{is it possible for member who have an subscription to contact me?

Or do we both need to have subscriptions to contact each other? }

I hope you can answer this question for me.

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Greetings Para Dancer,

It appears from your post that you don't quite understand the Forum's Private Message service.

To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member.

For more information, please read: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?

If you cannot afford $20 dollars to buy a subscription, then perhaps you can convince another forum member to purchase a subscription for you.

Jackson[/blue]

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Hi Para Dancer,

Please read the Subscription FAQ:

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[u]What name will appear on my credit card statement?[/u]

Your credit card statement will show a charge in the name of [red][name deleted here to avoid being read by search engines. Please read the actual FAQ which has the name displayed as an image][/red]. Any internet search for this name will direct you to a website which appears to be a charitable website raising money to feed poor children in Argentina.

[u]Why is my subscription being billed to this other corporate name?[/u]

This is a corporation with a name that sounds like a charity. The Corporation does charitable work, but it's not a registered charity as defined by the IRS. I chose to use this corporation as the vehicle for processing the Forum's subscriptions because the charges will appear as [red][name deleted here to avoid being read by search engines. Please read the actual FAQ which has the name displayed as an image][/red] which is more easily explained as a charitable contribution to anyone who might read your credit card statement.

[u]Can my identity be traced through my subscription?[/b]

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Thanks,

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[QUOTE=Para Dancer]
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Greetings Everyone,

It would appear that Para Dancer...

1. Believes that everything on the internet should be free, or...

2. Believes that it's okay for me to pay the forum's server bills so he can enjoy a free website, or...

3. Believes that it's okay that I should work for free to maintain this website, or...

4. Cannot afford the $20 to buy a subscription.

Anyway, if anyone wants to purchase a subscription for Para Dancer, all you need to do is enter his username where indicated when making the credit card charge.

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Thanks,

Jackson[/blue][/QUOTE]Me too, if someone wants to hook me up I'll pay you back in Shanghai this week, but I have one CC watched by the wife, the other by the boss. Neither is suitable for paying Jackson his hard earned $20.

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Hi Shmitty,

Please read the Subscription FAQ:

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[u]What name will appear on my credit card statement?[/u]

Your credit card statement will show a charge in the name of [red][name deleted here to avoid being read by search engines. Please read the actual FAQ which has the name displayed as an image][/red]. Any internet search for this name will direct you to a website which appears to be a charitable website raising money to feed poor children in Argentina.

[u]Why is my subscription being billed to this other corporate name?[/u]

This is a corporation with a name that sounds like a charity. The Corporation does charitable work, but it's not a registered charity as defined by the IRS. I chose to use this corporation as the vehicle for processing the Forum's subscriptions because the charges will appear as [red][name deleted here to avoid being read by search engines. Please read the actual FAQ which has the name displayed as an image][/red] which is more easily explained as a charitable contribution to anyone who might read your credit card statement.

[u]Can my identity be traced through my subscription?[/b]

No. There is no connection between your payment to [red][name deleted here to avoid being read by search engines. Please read the actual FAQ which has the name displayed as an image][/red] and your ISG Forum Username. In addition, the ISG Forum's server is located in Canada, safely outside the reach of the USA legal system.

Thanks,

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[QUOTE=Carage]What you are saying if true, appears to be an implicit aknowledgement of prostitution by the police, which I doubt would ever happen in Shanghai.[/QUOTE]

Please see attached Photo of a Shanghai Temporary Residents Card. As you say Ayi's don't carry them. Still in Doubt?

Reason for my report was to explain that registrants are given a full medical screening every six months, not monthly as stated in a previous report.

When an establishment in Pudong is raided, this card must be produced.

fz

[QUOTE=Mrawesome]I went to golden18 about 3 months ago to find out it was closed, no guard, went up using the stairs since the elevator was off. Found that golden18 was demolished, dont know if it was under renovation or they have closed the place down. Anyone have any information about it recently?[/QUOTE]G18 is open and functioning as usual though with limited selection. Visited last weekend.

[QUOTE=Para Dancer]I almost forgot. I live in the Xu Hui District I live acros the Motel168 on Kai Xuan Road is close to Xujiahui Business Center and Shanghai Stadium, only 8km from Hongqiao Airport.

Maybe someone live's there nearby for the one who would like to show me around I'm willing to pay everything. The taxi, drinks and the girl for the massage etc etc.

I don't know how to contact someone I'm not allowed to drop my email on this board so I someone could send me a private message.

Then we can change phone numbers and hopely meet soon.

Grtzz[/QUOTE]


Para Dancer,

There is no less than 50-100 posts here about great saunas, BBS, and other massage with extras all within the last 3-4 months. I cant see why you need a ISG concierge to show you around unless your eye operations have rendered you blind?

anyhow, goto Heting or HaiLang. For 600rmd, the young girls there can put you in a better mood. If you ever become a senior member here, I think your PMs are then free.

PC out

ps Jackson is right on about what he said! It was very enjoyable to read as well...

Yes I read alot of post on this thread.

Unfortuanely I cannot post on this forum until I got senior membership since I'm leaving in about 2 days from now.

My biggest problem is that I cannot speak Chinese (mandarin) only a little little litle bit, and most Chinese people don't speak english I hope you understand why I need an ISG concierge and the funny part is that I am Chinese, I do speak english, german, dutch.

I'm not blind, 100% clear vision I went trough 4 eye operations this year kind of depressing. Really destroyed my life

Heting or HaiLang are these places nearby? From were I live?

I was hoping you could draw a map for me or something. (sarcasm)

But I'm leaving in about 2 days so I was hoping to get some good recommedations or route's and tips, how to handle the language barrier.

Well I'm happy that you all enjoyed my story.

Peace

[QUOTE=Pcpc1688]Para Dancer,

..... If you ever become a senior member here, I think your PMs are then free.

PC out

ps Jackson is right on about what he said! It was very enjoyable to read as well...[/QUOTE]

as long as you pay your yearly subscription, they are! :)

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao]Please see attached Photo of a Shanghai Temporary Residents Card. As you say Ayi's don't carry them. Still in Doubt?

Reason for my report was to explain that registrants are given a full medical screening every six months, not monthly as stated in a previous report.

When an establishment in Pudong is raided, this card must be produced.

fz[/QUOTE]I knew the card exists, I just never seen the policy actually enforced.

This is in effect saying the police knows about these activities, so what is the point of all these raids? Very bizzare.

Yesterday I went back to the BBS street I reported on earlier. Every single shop was closed. It was about 11 PM. I hope it's not a result of LE seeing my post. I'll get back there again to check later.

I then went to a nearby bathhouse; no line up; they sent me 3 girls and I sent them back one by one (they were just not doable). They didn't have more, it was about 1 AM at that point.

Onwards: I want to check out the MPs this week. Heting seems cool but the availability of girls seems a bit hit and miss. Quite a few reports mention only 2 or 3 girls in the line up. I see few posts about the best timing for the widest availability of girls. From what I can gather, it seems coming early in the evening is best; weekend afternoons also good. I imagine only a few girls on weekdays afternoons? Feedback appreciated.

Hey guys,

I will be visiting Shanghai soon, and I just wanted to know where I could find some African girls in Shanghai,

Gentlemen,

Huge crack down in Shanghai through end of the month. They even gave it a name "Shao Huang Feng Bao" (Sweeping Yellow Storm). Lots of raids last night. First by local cops doing their regular visits and then an hour or so later followed by cops and wujin (people's armed police).

Spoke to my regular at Xinhe (was Zhongtian) and she said many places are closed down to wait out the storm.

At her place, the ladies flat out refused to work today as the authorities promised swift and harsh punishment for all violators. Unlike previous crack-down, first offenders were let go with a fine and time served at the local jail. This time authorities have stated to hand out prison terms even for first offenders.

Be careful out there!

Dickie

[QUOTE=Dickie Robert]Gentlemen,

Huge crack down in Shanghai through end of the month. They even gave it a name "Shao Huang Feng Bao" (Sweeping Yellow Storm). Lots of raids last night. First by local cops doing their regular visits and then an hour or so later followed by cops and wujin (people's armed police).

Spoke to my regular at Xinhe (was Zhongtian) and she said many places are closed down to wait out the storm.

At her place, the ladies flat out refused to work today as the authorities promised swift and harsh punishment for all violators. Unlike previous crack-down, first offenders were let go with a fine and time served at the local jail. This time authorities have stated to hand out prison terms even for first offenders.

Be careful out there!

Dickie[/QUOTE]Dickie,

I was at Shanghai a few week ago no problem finding bbs and sauna action price is much higher than normal because many other sauna is closed, don't know why crack down is almost the end of the expo, maybe they want to clean up Shanghai for the long term.

Fast Eddie 48

Yes sure, I realize I was not specific enough

It is on a corner, on dingxi lu, right after fahuazhen lu on left side when you come from yan an lu.

The girls are very good looking, not the typical old or fat average lady you find in most BBS.

So Quality price is a real value there.

In return please share your experience and tell us if I was right.

PM me if you want the name of specific girl, their top choice in my opinion.

SC

[QUOTE=White Dragon]Any more specifics? North or south of yan an Lu? I only know of 1 bbs on dingxi Lu near xinhua Lu but it is not as you describe. I think there are some legit spa/massage places closer towards Zhongshan park but have seen much else on Dingxi?[/QUOTE]

Went to Hailang on Saturday early evening, around 6:30 PM. Relatively easy to find as per the previous instructions in the forum.

The atmosphere is a bit oldish, certainly clean enough but not luxurious. Attendants are very nice and polite (and numerous! There is someone greeting you every 3 meters). I bumped into a bunch of costumers including one older laowai in the lift who looked pretty ashamed to be seen there (sorry if that was you!).

Line-up in the fishbowl was big, about 20 girls. However I was a bit disappointed by the overall quality. Lots of 6s and 7s that I wouldn’t touch for free, maybe two or three 8s. That was it. I was expecting to have more choice than in the BBSes, but not really. I only had 2 or 3 options.

I hesitated for a while then choose one of the taller ones, Number 996 – her name is Liu. Great tall and slender body, small breast (I like), nice face. She smiled upon being chosen (they can’t see you through the glass, or so they say).

She took me to my room and we started to shower. As I’m pretty new to P4P (but not to China) I had a few first times:
-the whole body-to-body massage on the inflatable mattress. Fun, but I doubt I’ll do that again. It’s more laughter than boner-inducing IMHO.
-the whole “water in mouth” and sort of gargle massage on your back – I have no idea what the point of that was. Is that what a catbath is? Didn’t find it arousing at all.
-the red rope BJ – fun, but I doubt I’ll do that again. Didn’t find it particularly pleasurable and was even worried her teeth would damage my member with all the spinning.

Anyway, I went along with all of the above in good spirit, it was a fun experience, but I’ll definitely skip it all next time. The whole process probably took about 30 mins. Maybe I was just too sober to enjoy it as much as others have.

After the red rope (which was offered, I didn’t have to ask for it), I let her give me a long BJ, then on to some good old-fashioned sex.

Her condoms were a bit too tight for me (they would only go about 2/3 down), so I’d bring my own next time. I was a bit paranoid it would break but it didn’t.

From the start of the session, the girl meant well and she was smiling, we joked around and I was teasing her, but the whole thing was a bit mechanical. Definitely not a GFE. After it was done, she just started to pack her stuff. I had to stop her and grab her back for a bit of half-assed cuddling.

We had a bit of a talk and I gathered some data. She says her clients are mostly Chinese, quite a few Asian expats, and a few white men (a minority). She never has a day off except for national holidays (or if she pays management 200 kuai for it). And she does 4 to 8 clients a day. That sounded pretty high/scary to me. Is that realistic in your opinion?

I had about 30 mins left after coming I guess – session had been an hour by that time. I had “90 minutes” in my mind from reading the forum but realized I had no idea if this was the “official” time, or what.

I asked her if we could do it again and she kind of implied that no, it was over, but weakly. I probably could have stayed longer and have another go (correct?). But in the end I didn’t really feel like it so I just rested for a while, showered and left.

I enquired about late hours when leaving, the manager said they close at 2, and you can still show up at 1:30 AM and get the service, no problem. He assured me you would still get a lot of girls to choose from even at that hour (whether that’s true or not, I don’t know).

Damage: 680 rmb

I’ll be probably be back, but would like to find a place with more stunners. Any suggestions?

All feedback welcome.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]another result of having done homework before (aka RTFF), or maybe having gone there? can't remember!

Anyhow: here's the business card[/QUOTE]It looks like this is right next to Times Square mall? Anyone confirm?

I walked by Malone's, Manhattan, and Judy's this afternoon, Malone's was open and only a few people inside, definitely not WG's. Manhattan was closed and Judy's I couldn't tell. Those going over, don't be confused by the old location of Manhattan, the sign is still up (along with a bunch of other bard) but it is behind a construction barrier. The actual bar is another two blocks north and half a block east on Nanyang Road the same street Malone's is on. It is next to a Big Bamboo that had a bunch of expats in it, including a very nice looking American girl who looked to be about 6'1". Nice girl.

Good to know, thanks for looking out Dickie. Definitely makes sense, and this is usually the way its done, especially if something special is going to happen (I. E. New mayor in town). Best to stay away for a bit and wait for the "Storm" to pass.

[QUOTE=Dickie Robert]Gentlemen,

Huge crack down in Shanghai through end of the month. They even gave it a name "Shao Huang Feng Bao" (Sweeping Yellow Storm). Lots of raids last night. First by local cops doing their regular visits and then an hour or so later followed by cops and wujin (people's armed police).

Spoke to my regular at Xinhe (was Zhongtian) and she said many places are closed down to wait out the storm.

At her place, the ladies flat out refused to work today as the authorities promised swift and harsh punishment for all violators. Unlike previous crack-down, first offenders were let go with a fine and time served at the local jail. This time authorities have stated to hand out prison terms even for first offenders.

Be careful out there!

Dickie[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Garam Dharam]G18 is open and functioning as usual though with limited selection. Visited last weekend.[/QUOTE]As of yesterday, G18 was closed with lights off in the lobby. I even went inside to press the elevator button, but it seemed to be turned off. I wonder if there is some pattern. Open during the week, closed during the weekend. Or, open during the day, closed at night. Does anyone know? Sacrosa is open, and reported not to have any problems during Expo.

[QUOTE=Shmitty]It looks like this is right next to Times Square mall? Anyone confirm?

I walked by Malone's, Manhattan, and Judy's this afternoon, Malone's was open and only a few people inside, definitely not WG's. Manhattan was closed and Judy's I couldn't tell. Those going over, don't be confused by the old location of Manhattan, the sign is still up (along with a bunch of other bard) but it is behind a construction barrier. The actual bar is another two blocks north and half a block east on Nanyang Road the same street Malone's is on. It is next to a Big Bamboo that had a bunch of expats in it, including a very nice looking American girl who looked to be about 6'1". Nice girl.[/QUOTE]It is not next to Times Square mall, and it is practically impossible to find. I walked around there for more than an hour tonight and couldn't find it.

Reference this post for directions [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1000277&postcount=1906[/url]

I wish I had. The address on that side of the road goes straight from 1141 down to 800 something, and there is a big area past Century Road that looks like it should be the place based on street signs. Go to the other side of the street where the numbers are even, and the addresses don't line up. Look at google maps and the stupid thing has you two blocks away at Zhangyang Road.

I was definitely in and among where Indo Phile's post describes and could not see anything that would have led me to the right place. It's gratifying to know I was right there, but even reading the directions now I cannot remember seeing some of the things he describes. I definitely did not see the name anywhere.

Maybe tomorrow, I have to walk past there on the way home from the office, maybe I'll just drop my stuff at the hotel and then drop in. Either that, or I'll try Manhattan, either way I'll report back.

[QUOTE=Shmitty]It is not next to Times Square mall, and it is practically impossible to find. I walked around there for more than an hour tonight and couldn't find it.

Reference this post for directions [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1000277&postcount=1906[/url]

I wish I had. The address on that side of the road goes straight from 1141 down to 800 something, and there is a big area past Century Road that looks like it should be the place based on street signs. Go to the other side of the street where the numbers are even, and the addresses don't line up. Look at google maps and the stupid thing has you two blocks away at Zhangyang Road.

I was definitely in and among where Indo Phile's post describes and could not see anything that would have led me to the right place. It's gratifying to know I was right there, but even reading the directions now I cannot remember seeing some of the things he describes. I definitely did not see the name anywhere.

Maybe tomorrow, I have to walk past there on the way home from the office, maybe I'll just drop my stuff at the hotel and then drop in. Either that, or I'll try Manhattan, either way I'll report back.[/QUOTE]

Not time square. There's a department store calls Nextage and Sarcosa is in a building near it. Go back to the posting and I am sure you'll find the address, probably a few months back.

[QUOTE=Shmitty]It is not next to Times Square mall, and it is practically impossible to find. I walked around there for more than an hour tonight and couldn't find it.[/QUOTE]Yes, Sacrosa is back off the main road, making it a little difficult to find. The following is a link to the Google Maps page using the Chinese name to search. There are a couple pictures of the building and the location pin seems to be in the correct place.

tiny url dot com / sacrosa

Or, if the link doesn't work, search for Sacrosa's Chinese name under Google Maps with the following string:

中国上海市上海浦东新区名庭会所

Another travel tip is to use Metro Line 9's Shangcheng Road station. Use exit 4 and walk east on Shangcheng Road, away from South Pudong Road. As I recall, you will pass a Marriott Apartment building on your right. Just pass that, turn right at the next driveway. Then, pass the Marriott building and turn right at the next alleyway. No. 1085 South Pudong Road is on your left. The address is written in large silver letters above the door. Walk in past the guards to the elevators at the back and go to the 5th floor.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Para Dancer]Yes I read alot of post on this thread.

Unfortuanely I cannot post on this forum until I got senior membership since I'm leaving in about 2 days from now.

My biggest problem is that I cannot speak Chinese (mandarin) only a little little litle bit, and most Chinese people don't speak english I hope you understand why I need an ISG concierge and the funny part is that I am Chinese, I do speak english, german, dutch.

I'm not blind, 100% clear vision I went trough 4 eye operations this year kind of depressing. Really destroyed my life

Heting or HaiLang are these places nearby? From were I live?

I was hoping you could draw a map for me or something. (sarcasm)

But I'm leaving in about 2 days so I was hoping to get some good recommedations or route's and tips, how to handle the language barrier.

Well I'm happy that you all enjoyed my story.

Peace[/QUOTE]


"Unfortuanely I cannot post on this forum until I got senior membership..." I don't understand what you meant. Senior membership is only for free PM. I'd recommend you use Google map to get an idea where the saunas are in relation to your hotel.

If you absolutely don't want to do any research, why don't you try out the classified ad section of the China board. I recall at least one person offering tour guide service for a fee.

I am certain you can get Eng/ Chin addresses of all the major saunas. Just print/ copy them and get on a taxi.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Dickie,

I was at Shanghai a few week ago no problem finding bbs and sauna action price is much higher than normal because many other sauna is closed, don't know why crack down is almost the end of the expo, maybe they want to clean up Shanghai for the long term.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]My understanding is that the crack down has nothing to do with the Expo. It's a directive directly from the central gov in Beijing. The use of wujin (people's armed police) is to ensure that there is no collusion between local law enforcement and various establishments.

The crack down is nationwide from Dongguan to Nanchang (in Jiangxi province) to Shanghai to Beijing.

If you search shao huang (sweep yellow) in Baidu, you will get a sense of enormous scope of this national crack down.

[QUOTE=John43]Hey guys,

I will be visiting Shanghai soon, and I just wanted to know where I could find some African girls in Shanghai,[/QUOTE]


John,

Why in the world would you come to Shanghai looking for African women???

Wouldnt one goto Africa or Harlem, Gambia, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Botswana, or one of those places? Goto to Macau, there is always a token black girl to chose from.

PC out

My problem is I don't have a credit card and certainly cannot use any

And at this point, I really don't want people to pay the 20$ for me since I will be leaving in about 15hours from now, so it hass no use

I have 1000euro cash to enjoy the rest of my worthless vacation in shanghai wich was purely for medical reasons

I really want to do my best to spend all my money on asian pussy in 6days time

Yesterday I ask my brother some places were we went last year I will be visiting Zhapu road in the huanpu district, near the bund east nanjing road

I heard you can find entertainment easily in the Bund area? Is this true? If anyone went there, please tell me more about it.

And I will be staying at my sisters house on kaixuan road in the changning district

If anyone know some nice places in that district please let me know I really don't want to travel that long for some pussy

I'm going to sleep in about 2 hours so I'm going to spend these 2hours to read this topic maybe I can dig up more adresses and recommedations

Also I read about those raids by the police: S is it really that bad? I'm willing to risk it, but I really want to know wich places I should avoid

I hope to hear more from you al'

Greetz

For those being afraid to get lost in this huge country this link will be quite useful
Any user will please send a report here to pay back
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103259594851416659897.00045b9dc1d0d52567ea2&z=14[/url]

Africa is the easiest place, but when you enter Manhattan - look to the right and usually you will see 2-3 black girls there.

[QUOTE=John43]Hey guys,

I will be visiting Shanghai soon, and I just wanted to know where I could find some African girls in Shanghai,[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sixty Cent]Yes sure, I realize I was not specific enough

It is on a corner, on dingxi lu, right after fahuazhen lu on left side when you come from yan an lu.

The girls are very good looking, not the typical old or fat average lady you find in most BBS.

So Quality price is a real value there.

In return please share your experience and tell us if I was right.

PM me if you want the name of specific girl, their top choice in my opinion.

SC[/QUOTE]


The place is closed.

Levitian

[QUOTE=John43]Hey guys,

I will be visiting Shanghai soon, and I just wanted to know where I could find some African girls in Shanghai,[/QUOTE]Manhattan usually has several, perhaps Judy's on rare occasion.

Yesterday I was in BBS. Unfortunately I dislike this place, because just massage cost 100rmb, and I paid 250rmb for BBBJ, why so hight cost? Bbs was in the centre. Tan Xiao Station near the road.

[QUOTE=Gao Xing]Yes, Sacrosa is back off the main road, making it a little difficult to find. The following is a link to the Google Maps page using the Chinese name to search. There are a couple pictures of the building and the location pin seems to be in the correct place.

tiny url dot com / sacrosa

Or, if the link doesn't work, search for Sacrosa's Chinese name under Google Maps with the following string:

中国上海市上海浦东新区名庭会所

Another travel tip is to use Metro Line 9's Shangcheng Road station. Use exit 4 and walk east on Shangcheng Road, away from South Pudong Road. As I recall, you will pass a Marriott Apartment building on your right. Just pass that, turn right at the next driveway. Then, pass the Marriott building and turn right at the next alleyway. No. 1085 South Pudong Road is on your left. The address is written in large silver letters above the door. Walk in past the guards to the elevators at the back and go to the 5th floor.

Hope this is helpful. Good luck![/QUOTE]I just walked by there on my way back from work, and this is about right, amazing how easy it is to find when you have the directions and not just the address (by the way, do not pay attention to the street signs in the area, they're plain fucked). Not sure which exit is which as far as the metro station, but on the North East corner of Shagcheng and Pudong South Road is a metro station for line 9. Directly across Shangcheng from there is the set of buoldings under discussion. You can walk into the mall (the Shin May Union Square Mall) and out the back, and you will be facing the door, recognizable by the 1085 in 12" silver numbers to the right of the door, and the large circular window with a semi-circular awning of steel. It looks like a typical lobby with a number of business names on the wall.

If I have time, maybe I will go visit tonight, or maybe tomorrow, will report back once I do.

I may yet go to Manhattan thought, I don't have to work that early. If I go, I will be wearing a distinctly American hat.

[QUOTE=Bionicman]For those being afraid to get lost in this huge country this link will be quite useful
Any user will please send a report here to pay back
[url]http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103259594851416659897.00045b9dc1d0d52567ea2&z=14[/url][/QUOTE]sorry but this post went here by mistake...when I found out was too late to edit it...just disregard or take into account in case you go Macau, loll

The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

Cal8

Police will go undercover to stop sex trade
By Xu Chi and Ni Yinbin | 2010-8-30 |

CITY police plan to continue their crackdown on prostitution by introducing undercover inspections at massage parlors and karaoke venues.

Police said they are now planning to train dedicated teams of police officers and assistants who would work undercover on collecting clues to crack down on the sex trade.

The system will allow quicker information sharing among police departments to raise efficiency. When undercover officers detect sex deals, the venues will be shut down, police said.

Police said working undercover along with carrying out spot checks would be more effective than occasional raids in stamping out prostitution.

About 7,500 suspects had been caught and about 2,000 venues had been fined or closed in the first seven months of this year due to a tougher stance on prostitution, gambling and drug abuse, police said.

Officers also encouraged residents to keep providing tips about suspect venues. Residents provided tips about 789 such venues in the first seven months of this year.

About 200,000 employees of massage parlors and karaoke venues have registered their real identity with the police since the system was launched in 2005, officers said. The system allows police to better monitor these venues and prevent illegal dealings.

More than 60 people were caught and punished as police raided 14 foot massage parlors on Qingzhen Road in Xuhui District last Wednesday and Thursday, officers said.

Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.

Police said they will cooperate more closely with other bureaus in future to improve supervision of these venues.

[QUOTE=California8]Police said they are now planning to train dedicated teams of police officers and assistants who would work undercover on collecting clues to crack down on the sex trade.

The system will allow quicker information sharing among police departments to raise efficiency. When undercover officers detect sex deals, the venues will be shut down, police said.[/QUOTE]

You've gotta love the PR.

Train them to detect 'clues'? ROTFLMAO.

When many offer protection and/or receive services in return?

At least if they are undercover, they will have the ability to pay. Only if they get a fapiao of course! ;p

[QUOTE=California8]The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

Cal8

Police will go undercover to stop sex trade
By Xu Chi and Ni Yinbin | 2010-8-30 |

CITY police plan to continue their crackdown on prostitution by introducing undercover inspections at massage parlors and karaoke venues.

......
Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.

Police said they will cooperate more closely with other bureaus in future to improve supervision of these venues.[/QUOTE]
Seen the amount of sauna/mp's and KTV visible to the eyes of a foreigner visiting Shangai, accessing only a small part of the city, not capable to read chinese, if LE wants to massively take the action against those (same) establishments to stop the sex trade, I feel they need to occupy the town with polices forces comng from all over China and that will take quite a long time too....
Nice for the local media, though.

[QUOTE=California8]The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

Cal8

Police will go undercover to stop sex trade
By Xu Chi and Ni Yinbin | 2010-8-30 |

CITY police plan to continue their crackdown on prostitution by introducing undercover inspections at massage parlors and karaoke venues.

Police said they are now planning to train dedicated teams of police officers and assistants who would work undercover on collecting clues to crack down on the sex trade.

The system will allow quicker information sharing among police departments to raise efficiency. When undercover officers detect sex deals, the venues will be shut down, police said.

Police said working undercover along with carrying out spot checks would be more effective than occasional raids in stamping out prostitution.

About 7,500 suspects had been caught and about 2,000 venues had been fined or closed in the first seven months of this year due to a tougher stance on prostitution, gambling and drug abuse, police said.

Officers also encouraged residents to keep providing tips about suspect venues. Residents provided tips about 789 such venues in the first seven months of this year.

About 200,000 employees of massage parlors and karaoke venues have registered their real identity with the police since the system was launched in 2005, officers said. The system allows police to better monitor these venues and prevent illegal dealings.

More than 60 people were caught and punished as police raided 14 foot massage parlors on Qingzhen Road in Xuhui District last Wednesday and Thursday, officers said.

Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.

Police said they will cooperate more closely with other bureaus in future to improve supervision of these venues.[/QUOTE]

Things are definitely getting even more tough, recently.
Be careful!

Levitian

[QUOTE=California8]The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

More than 60 people were caught and punished as police raided 14 foot massage parlors on Qingzhen Road in Xuhui District last Wednesday and Thursday, officers said.

Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.[/QUOTE]I went there last week, and all massage places except one were closed. One was open, but some police guys were visiting it when I passed by.

Pit

Coincidentally this was the street that was posted a couple of weeks ago. Having never been there, was actually planning to go check it out this week. Guess don't need to anymore...

[QUOTE=Pit Shang]I went there last week, and all massage places except one were closed. One was open, but some police guys were visiting it when I passed by.

Pit[/QUOTE]

Picking up girls from bars should still be pretty safe, right?

Has to be next to impossible to prove that money is going to exchange hands just because you are going home together.

[QUOTE=Black Jack]Coincidentally this was the street that was posted a couple of weeks ago. Having never been there, was actually planning to go check it out this week. Guess don't need to anymore.[/QUOTE]This was also this post which made me go there.

Hopefully, older posts are still valid.

Last week, I went in a place close to Jin'An temple were a prostate massage had been mentionned, more than one year ago.

I have chosen a 100 minutes massage at 338RMB. Decent place, shower before/after. A girl in the 30s, skirt but with pantyhose.

The massage has been classic, starting by putting pants but just for 10 minutes.

She used a funny position, sitting on the bed, my legs on her's, providing a direct access to asshole and xiao didi. After turning, she used the same position for a direct massage. The position is very good at the beginning, but hands have access to nothing

After 15-20 minutes of massage in this way, with a smooth increase in intensity, I asked her to sit close to my chest, giving better possibility for hands actions. I did not success to access to her tits, but pulling down pantyhose and panty to get a direct access to buttocks was ok.

No tip has been asked.

Apart from the position (I was always offered the same legs position), the possibilities depends a lot on the girl. I already went there last year, and the possibilities were very different. Once, A girl spontaneoulsy proposed to remove her bra and shirt, with some xiaofei, of course. Another time, access to tits was possible, but without removing bra and shirt, just putting the bra above the tits.

In conclusion, a place to visit and to test, if you enjoy massage + HJ.

Having stayed quite often in an hotel on Nanjing dong lu, I have visited several massage places in this area.

Most of these places offer only legit massage, but some often a little bit more of fun.

Close to Nanjing lu, existed a small massage salon with two posters: one was "no sex", the other one was "welcome to xx staff", and the truth is that many stewardess of this company came, but not the guys. This place is now closed.

But a funnier place exists close to nanjing dong lu metro station, and from discussion with the girls, this is where the guys form this air company came, but there was no poster about this.

In this place you can get an oil body massage for about 300 RMB.

The girls are average, usually rather newcomers to Shanghai (lot of work, low salary, they leave when they have a better option).

Massage rooms have a shower. The girls are friendly and HE is always proposed. Xiaofei vary between 50 and 200. The basic service is always the same (legs on legs, HE) with small variants for hand access. I went there quite often, I have seen about 12 different girls. If your hotel is not too far, you can ask for outcall service to your hotel. I tried a couple of times with a better service.

Once, a covered BJ of average quality, because she had no real training, but sometimes amateur job can be pleasant. FS was not possible, because of the size ("it is so big that if a girl accepts FS with you, she plans to get married"was the explanation).

Another time, I got FS, but with a lot of reluctance (I have learned the meaning of "haipa", "I am afraid"). But she was more willing to try than afraid This is my best massage souvenir, she was average for the face, but quite a nice slim body. Afterwards, she turned into my Chinese teacher, my travel partner, and money was no more the key., but the conflict between "haipa" and "I want" was always a charming part of the story, every time we stopped meeting for a while (I don't live in China).

Other places exist in this area. Some are legit, some are not, I never found a way to guess, part from trying. But as also like the massage, I am never really disapointed: v ery different from Sacrosa, but I like the discovery at least as much as the result.

Even if a place is legit, discussing with the girl for service at your hotel is always possible, either during her working time (price defined by the boss), or when she is free (price to be discussed).

I visited a famous place described in this thread twice in the recent weeks and had two nice experiences. Since most of the place has been described here already, I do not want to repeat.

The first time, I chose a "spinner" from Chongqing from a line-up of four. She is a nice girl, but extremely slim - no, actually she is thin, with very small tits. But she had an excellent attitude and did a very good job. Excellent BBBJ and very good service. When I gave her a DATY, her little sister opened her mouth very widely. I have rarely seen something like this. It was very widely open, and kept like this when my little brother got into her little sister. Despite the wide open space, it was a nice feeling, she was quite wet, and we both enjoyed.

The second time was on a Sunday, and I could chose from a line-up of about 15 or so. I chose one of the prettiest with big tits. She was also from Chongqing. However, her attitude was not so good. Her body, face were very nice, as well as the beautiful tits. She gave me a very deep rimming. Then, she did the "toe f...k". However, everything was a bit according to a well trained program, mechanical, without enthousiasm. She also complained about the size of my little brother and some pain. I would not repeat her.

But the place as such is definitely a worthwile location.

Please PM me if you are interested in the name of the place and the girl's numbers. I do not want to post any real names here anymore, in view of the recent raids. But I will provide the information to senior members, if you PM me.

Wonderer

I remember that someone recently posted here that the ISG is now (again) accessible from within China, even without VPN or proxy. This is true, and I tested it from several places. However, I have some concerns about this.

It could well be that the Chinese government uses this as source to track down our activities. As there is no secret here, it is easy to record your IP address. If you reside within China, it might happen that once you get the visit of LE, if you are frequent user of ISG.

On the other hand, in some cities, the hotels have compulsory recording systems and software installed to track from which room which websites are visited. Given the tight registration of the passports, room numbers, it is just a matter of time to trace also these activities.

Hence, if you want to be on the safe side, I still recommend not to directly access ISG, but to use a suitable proxy or - better - a VPN. If you have residence in China, it might be even more important.

Just a few thoughts.

Wonderer

[QUOTE=California8]The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

Cal8

Police will go undercover to stop sex trade
By Xu Chi and Ni Yinbin | 2010-8-30 |

CITY police plan to continue their crackdown on prostitution by introducing undercover inspections at massage parlors and karaoke venues.

Police said they are now planning to train dedicated teams of police officers and assistants who would work undercover on collecting clues to crack down on the sex trade.

The system will allow quicker information sharing among police departments to raise efficiency. When undercover officers detect sex deals, the venues will be shut down, police said.

Police said working undercover along with carrying out spot checks would be more effective than occasional raids in stamping out prostitution.

About 7,500 suspects had been caught and about 2,000 venues had been fined or closed in the first seven months of this year due to a tougher stance on prostitution, gambling and drug abuse, police said.

Officers also encouraged residents to keep providing tips about suspect venues. Residents provided tips about 789 such venues in the first seven months of this year.

About 200,000 employees of massage parlors and karaoke venues have registered their real identity with the police since the system was launched in 2005, officers said. The system allows police to better monitor these venues and prevent illegal dealings.

More than 60 people were caught and punished as police raided 14 foot massage parlors on Qingzhen Road in Xuhui District last Wednesday and Thursday, officers said.

Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.

Police said they will cooperate more closely with other bureaus in future to improve supervision of these venues.[/QUOTE]

Before the Sh** hits the fan with this whole Expo mess, I used to frequent this Pudong Sauna. Overpriced service but what the hell, I liked one of the girls. One time I was getting ready to leave and saw one middle-aged dude calmly putting his uniform back on. Turned out to be a paramilitary cop enjoying a bit of R&R. Wonder if he paid for the fun. I suppose they can have these boys dress in civvie, do the deeds, and bust the joints all at once.

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alright, finally something to add. i just now got back from sacrosa, after all the research and posts about ways to find it. i learned a few things. first and foremost that being a security guard must be the best job in shanghai. i don't know what they make, but on the way up homeboy was just smiling, feet up on the desk, and says "number 5" in a very knowing manner. at least i look the part.

so up the lift to floor 5, door opens and turn right to the front desk. the place is dimly lit, lots of ambience and probably hides the stains and bugs. i didn't even have to approach the desk, as soon as they saw me a guy started leading me down a hall into the changing room. carpeted room with a big circular couch in the center, and wooden lockers all around. little dude opens a locker, hands you a towel, and helps you lock your stuff (also shows you how the key works). showered and came back out to where another little dude is folding laundry and helps you into your pjs. then it is off to the relay races. employees in little black outfits essentially hand you off down a series of corridors, pointing in each direction until you get to the second reception area. as soon as you come into that area, all the girls at once say some kind of greeting (i speak hardly a word, so this whole communication was lost on me, front to back). there were 10+ girls (didn't count exactly, plenty of hotties). i picked number 266. young, great body, pretty face, and made the best eye contact of all of them. she took my hand and led me to a room in the back of the place. she asked me (using various forms of sign language) what i would like to drink, and i poorly conveyed to her "water" and she left and then came back with tea and a little bag. whatever, i wasn't there for the drinks.

so now she helps me out of the pjs, making a show about the size of mr. jimmy (very flattered, i'm sure) and then peeled her own clothes off. sweet merciful crap did i make a good choice. she put me on the bed and took control, going into the tongue bath and water in her mouth thing, all the way up and down my body. really nice and moaning the whole time. then she went into a very good bbbj (no problem fitting everything in, despite all the show about the size). then she stopped and curled up next to me, and we went into a lot of dfk, caressing, stroking, etc. now that i was in charge, i pulled her into a 69, which she seemed to like (good actress i guess) and we went at that for a while. have to tell you, what an ass on this one, hard as a rock, perfect shape, and while i didn't try to jam anything in, she did seem to like having some attention from mr. stinkfinger.

fast forward, me on my stomach, more water, very little rimming but a little titty fuck, then finally into missionary, where i lasted about 16 seconds. that girl was tighter than a mofo, discovered digitally and then verified with the main digit.

after that was finished, mainly just laid there and rested (she spoke zero english, i speak less chinese, so she practiced my numbers with me in between making out, and tried to teach me the words for different parts of the face and head, it was cute), played with her for a while, finally got back into the action and had he finish out with more bbbj. did not manage to finish in the alotted time, but that is okay. really worth while and i highly recommend this girl, very sweet. i may never see another girl in another country again if this is what they are like here. lawdy.

i also saw one of you fuckers while i was on my way out, stand up and be counted, who was it?

[QUOTE=Pit Shang]This was also this post which made me go there.

Last week, I went in a place close to Jin'An temple were a prostate massage had been mentionned, more than one year ago.
.......
She used a funny position, sitting on the bed, my legs on her's, providing a direct access to asshole and xiao didi. After turning, she used the same position for a direct massage. The position is very good at the beginning, but hands have access to nothing[/quote]Escluse my ignorance - but what exactly is a prostate massage?? I've seen it advertised at a massage place in Xujaihui. I couldn't ask as they didn't speaka da english but I was always interested? Is it like rimming but a finger instead of a tongue - or is it more invasive?

Cheers

[QUOTE=California8]The following article copied and pasted from Shanghai Daily Online edition.

Cal8

Police will go undercover to stop sex trade
By Xu Chi and Ni Yinbin | 2010-8-30 |

CITY police plan to continue their crackdown on prostitution by introducing undercover inspections at massage parlors and karaoke venues.

Police said they are now planning to train dedicated teams of police officers and assistants who would work undercover on collecting clues to crack down on the sex trade.

The system will allow quicker information sharing among police departments to raise efficiency. When undercover officers detect sex deals, the venues will be shut down, police said.

Police said working undercover along with carrying out spot checks would be more effective than occasional raids in stamping out prostitution.

About 7,500 suspects had been caught and about 2,000 venues had been fined or closed in the first seven months of this year due to a tougher stance on prostitution, gambling and drug abuse, police said.

Officers also encouraged residents to keep providing tips about suspect venues. Residents provided tips about 789 such venues in the first seven months of this year.

About 200,000 employees of massage parlors and karaoke venues have registered their real identity with the police since the system was launched in 2005, officers said. The system allows police to better monitor these venues and prevent illegal dealings.

More than 60 people were caught and punished as police raided 14 foot massage parlors on Qingzhen Road in Xuhui District last Wednesday and Thursday, officers said.

Secret rooms for sex services were found during the raid.

Police said they will cooperate more closely with other bureaus in future to improve supervision of these venues.[/QUOTE]

Yep, I guess Qingzhen Road would be an profitible target - 14 MP's on the same street, easy pickins' for LE...

Be careful, guys,
things are definitely getting tougher, these days.
The remaining so far still open and safe bbs places I know stopped business until further notice.
I don't know for saunas, though. Still, I would be extremely cautious.

Levitian

Well, the rumor was correct, the 411 crackdown squads have moved from Chengdu to Shanghai.

So careful, they will hit everything and I guess most of the red lights will be turned off in a matter of week or 2.

Lot of undercover men I blue that visit different venues and call in a raids, and you don't want to be there then.

You're looking for at least a month long campaign in SH.

But most important, you don't want a bus ride so take care of yourself there.

Cheers

[quote=shmitty]alright, finally something to add. i just now got back from sacrosa, after all the research and posts about ways to find it. i learned a few things. first and foremost that being a security guard must be the best job in shanghai. i don't know what they make, but on the way up homeboy was just smiling, feet up on the desk, and says "number 5" in a very knowing manner. at least i look the part.

so up the lift to floor 5, door opens and turn right to the front desk. the place is dimly lit, lots of ambience and probably hides the stains and bugs. i didn't even have to approach the desk, as soon as they saw me a guy started leading me down a hall into the changing room. carpeted room with a big circular couch in the center, and wooden lockers all around. little dude opens a locker, hands you a towel, and helps you lock your stuff (also shows you how the key works). showered and came back out to where another little dude is folding laundry and helps you into your pjs. then it is off to the relay races. employees in little black outfits essentially hand you off down a series of corridors, pointing in each direction until you get to the second reception area. as soon as you come into that area, all the girls at once say some kind of greeting (i speak hardly a word, so this whole communication was lost on me, front to back). there were 10+ girls (didn't count exactly, plenty of hotties). i picked number 266. young, great body, pretty face, and made the best eye contact of all of them. she took my hand and led me to a room in the back of the place. she asked me (using various forms of sign language) what i would like to drink, and i poorly conveyed to her "water" and she left and then came back with tea and a little bag. whatever, i wasn't there for the drinks.

so now she helps me out of the pjs, making a show about the size of mr. jimmy (very flattered, i'm sure) and then peeled her own clothes off. sweet merciful crap did i make a good choice. she put me on the bed and took control, going into the tongue bath and water in her mouth thing, all the way up and down my body. really nice and moaning the whole time. then she went into a very good bbbj (no problem fitting everything in, despite all the show about the size). then she stopped and curled up next to me, and we went into a lot of dfk, caressing, stroking, etc. now that i was in charge, i pulled her into a 69, which she seemed to like (good actress i guess) and we went at that for a while. have to tell you, what an ass on this one, hard as a rock, perfect shape, and while i didn't try to jam anything in, she did seem to like having some attention from mr. stinkfinger.

fast forward, me on my stomach, more water, very little rimming but a little titty fuck, then finally into missionary, where i lasted about 16 seconds. that girl was tighter than a mofo, discovered digitally and then verified with the main digit.

after that was finished, mainly just laid there and rested (she spoke zero english, i speak less chinese, so she practiced my numbers with me in between making out, and tried to teach me the words for different parts of the face and head, it was cute), played with her for a while, finally got back into the action and had he finish out with more bbbj. did not manage to finish in the alotted time, but that is okay. really worth while and i highly recommend this girl, very sweet. i may never see another girl in another country again if this is what they are like here. lawdy.

i also saw one of you fuckers while i was on my way out, stand up and be counted, who was it?[/quote]a few things i forgot:

total price was 676 rmb. i assume i got the hot guy discount of 4 rmb off the regular 680 price.

on the unpleasant side, there was some kind of roach-looking bug in the room, climbing on one side table and the mirror. the girl seemed as put off by it as i was, but i did not squash the thing and neither did she. maybe it was considered lucky.

the security guard was asleep on the way out at midnight, so if you get there late don't expect a guided tour or even an acknowledgement. also, the directions indicate there is an area nearby with a lot of statues of animals. the animals are there, but more noticeable now are the statues of superman, batman and donald duck. not kidding. life size (all except donald duck, who wouldn't really have a life-size).

stay dry out there, i actually saw manhole covers lifted off the street from the storms tonight.

"You're looking for at least a month long campaign in SH."

What makes you say so?

And what happens after a crackdown like that? Do places just get a green light (from their guanxi) that the campaign is over and they just re-open?

Anyway, grateful for the warnings. Time to lay low I guess. Damn. Thanks for the updates fellows.

Hi there,

Visiting Shanghai next week and would request some good GFE contacts for outcalls.

Also suggest some good hotels in pudong area that are GFE.

Hows the new Ritz Carlton?

Thanks,

MM

[QUOTE=Miller Man]Escluse my ignorance - but what exactly is a prostate massage?? I've seen it advertised at a massage place in Xujaihui. I couldn't ask as they didn't speaka da english but I was always interested? Is it like rimming but a finger instead of a tongue - or is it more invasive?

Cheers[/QUOTE]More invasive. Can really make you come, if well done. (but I did not test it). Search on this forum, you will get a better description by those who really tested it.

For what is speaking, Chinese is not necessary, simply pointing the line on the menu should be ok.

[QUOTE=Tors Ham]Well, the rumor was correct, the 411 crackdown squads have moved from Chengdu to Shanghai.

So careful, they will hit everything and I guess most of the red lights will be turned off in a matter of week or 2.[/QUOTE]It may be the right time to test something else.

I have tried web service (such as craigslist).comments are that all photos are fake, and it is true, from my experience. Prices can be high, but the starting price for a massage is ok. From my experience, the scenario is always the same.

1) by phone, you discuss the price of the massage with a girl who speaks in good English and speaks as if she was coming to your place. This is a very limited discussion, as the priority is to send you a girl, because it is always more difficult to bargain when you have been waiting and that she is in your room.

2) A girl arrives who cannot really speak English. She can just say the price for a full service (she may start a legit massage before mentionning it). She should propose from 1500 to 3000 RMB. You should get 800-1200. At this point, the girl will call to say what you agreed with (the mamasan as a perccentage on this price, I think). This discussion on price can take a long time. I remember, agreeing on a simple HE at low cost. The girl started the massage and re-opened negociation after 15 minutes: be patient, your wallet will like it!

3) If you like the service, you can take her phone number for further use, to get a much better price, say 500-700 because you avoid the mamasan (but this requires some basic skills in Chinese).

[A variant of 2 is that the mamasan comes with the girl to discuss the price and service. ]

I think that at 2) you could simply say 'no' with a convincing voice until the girl calls to say that you don't want more than a simple massage. Once the mamasan is convinced that you will not pay more than the 200 to 400 for a legit massage, you can then start the real negociation at a better price, say 600-800 (no percentage for the mamasan except for the basic massage). I did not try, but I think that this should work.

Whatever your choice, take the phone number of the girl who came for further use.

Pit

[QUOTE=Aurelio12]Picking up girls from bars should still be pretty safe, right?

Has to be next to impossible to prove that money is going to exchange hands just because you are going home together.[/QUOTE]I would avoid a bar pickup as much as possible unless your taking her to her place or a non-hotel. I've heard a lot of rumors about the "normal" bars being staked out by cops, and those cops following the people leaving back to their home. If its at a hotel, or even if its not, they'll wait about 15 minutes, go in, ask what you room number is, and go to your room to question you. They'll prove that you two don't know each other by asking for your respective real names etc, remember this isn't exactly a innocent until proven guilty society.

Honestly, I didn't believe the rumors, but my associate who used to go to Hollywood in Beijing all the time for his little piece of Russia, had it happen to him and luckily the girl he was with was a regular who had been with him several times before and so knew the right answers. I've also had pleasure of the police knocking on my door at 1:00 AM for a "cursory" inspection which luckily resulted in them searching an empty room.

All in all, as far as the native Chinese go, the hobby is one full of extreme paranoia.

[QUOTE=Pit Shang]More invasive. Can really make you come, if well done. (but I did not test it). Search on this forum, you will get a better description by those who really tested it.

For what is speaking, Chinese is not necessary, simply pointing the line on the menu should be ok.[/QUOTE]It really depends. Experience varies.

I had it once before in a massage parlor, I thought it was meant to be a happy ending, but then I realized I couldn't get an erection at all. Everytime I get a little aroused, as soon as the massage lady touches one of the pressure points inside your thighs then it hurts like hell and I can't concentrate at all.

Not sure if she was trained to do that or she was just in a bad mood.

Then again, I used to enjoy foot massages in the saunas after "exercise", and those are really meant to give you a good HJ sometimes even BJ.

[QUOTE=Chill Out]"You're looking for at least a month long campaign in SH."

What makes you say so?

And what happens after a crackdown like that? Do places just get a green light (from their guanxi) that the campaign is over and they just re-open?

Anyway, grateful for the warnings. Time to lay low I guess. Damn. Thanks for the updates fellows.[/QUOTE]A huge crackdown campaign against prostitution started 11 April (code name 411)l this year in Beijing and the plan was to hit 26 or more big to midsize city's in China.

A squad of officer's travel around and from what I can understand, this time the crackdowns suppose to be different.

They cooperate with different law enforcement organs to make the raids using undercover officers and, well I don't understand everything but its more in deep they go this time.

They hit hotels BBS, spa, sauna, bars, clubs, everything, even a Hilton Hotel is under an investigation in southern part of China

The campaign supposes to run over a 6-7 month period of time, and from what I can understand they are changing the tactics how to handles this in the future.

This info is out in the Chinese media, all over.

So what happens after I don't know, we just have to wait and see.

Can be that everything goes back to the way it was, or?

But its big money in this so the providers will find ways, they always do.

And from what I can understand they are in 1 place around 1 month, but I can be wrong.

Beijing was first out, but I haven't followed the Beijing thread so I don't know the situation there now, but I guess we will see the same time frame in the other city's that been hit.

So I would play it safe at the moment.