Jakarta

[QUOTE=Bebek]Who made you the forum police?
[/QUOTE]
Member just like you ! who would turn this forum such as kindergaten forum.

[quote=oyenk]yes, you may have it but you got to approach the therapist first...in delta group.
and it might take several visits to that therapist.

finally i don't want everybody in this thread to expose therapist's number to this forum ! their management has very strict regulations about plus-plus service...once they know, this therapist will be fired by the management.

do exchange therapist's number by pm. thank you.

cheers.[/quote]

pardon my digging up an old post, but i am wondering if oyenk or any jakarta experts out there can recommend a good spa for an excellent no-plus-plus massage session. when visiting a spa for a massage, i generally don't care for any of the extras (that includes hjs!) primarily but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?

i have been to delta spa once before (kelapa gading) but experienced the upsell (to a 4th time-block) by a slightly overweight masseuse who, incidentally, delivered an *excellent* massage with hot stones. basically, is there anywhere else where i can get the same quality massage w/o the upsell (i am there to destress and relax and don't want to be bothered with the sly manoueverings to upsell) and/or can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?

[quote=raverboy]..... but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?
.... can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?[/quote]

hi bro,

basically you can find such therapist nearly in all massages. the ladies who will provide that will most likely be older than the ++ provider ones.
there are 2 or 3 places that i could recommend you:

- tropical spa near roxy mas mall: talk to pak aan, he's the duty manager in charge, or better to pak aguan, he's the owner, and they will give you what you want. you can request for number 48, she's 29 years old, a bit chubby, but delivers very good massage. number 29 is also good but she likes to play.

- sands spa, in mangga dua square: higher end spa and massage. again ask the girls who will allocate the therapists and they will choose a good one for you. i never have been even proposed a ++ session there. you have a choice of local or chinese therapists, and corresponding style.

- sumber sehat spa in grand wijaya centre: they have some excellent therapists and it's cheap, 110 000 rp for 1.5 hours and 140 000 rp for 2 hours. ask for amel and debbie or also tell the receptionist what type of massage you want, strong or soft.

hope you'll find what you want. enjoy jakarta.

cheers

[QUOTE=Raverboy] can anybody recommend a masseuse at Delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?[/QUOTE]

Well I always used to go to Delta at Grand Wijaya and order the basic 3 ( 3 x 45 mins ) session which includes the HJ. Of course one can always decline the HJ and or take it on a session by session basis.
I like Delta because it is clean and friendly and I know what I am getting. Granted not as cheap as others but generally a dam good massage.

X2 is indeed very happening and that's on Ladies night, Thur I think and week end... Try red square which is pack nearly everyday..

It's just a small pub and still wondering why biz is so good here.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Prosal]Heard that X2 capacity was 2500 - 3000 pax and was filled to the walls on weekends. Difficult to maintain it as a "best kept secret" for ourselves. ;)

Anyway you're right. With game, self confidence and cultural awareness, scoring in JKT glam clubs is not that hard. Unlike their western counterparts, indonesian elite girls are often quite approachable, and the key to success with most of them is personality and not bankroll. I admit I have met a few gems in this target category. Retro in its heydays (late 90s to 2002), Zanzibar, Musro or Prego during the same period, or more recently Centro, Embassy, Manna Lounge, Cina Bar or Dragonfly have always been very favorable hunting grounds for me.

Mid-level range spots were also good options. In Kemang I've often met hot middle-class girls hungry for adventure or bule boyfriends and even gotten a BJ on different occasions without having to leave the parking lot.

I truly miss the indo flavor. Gotta leave the East Europe dyevs for a while and go back to JKT.[/QUOTE]

Well well....

Nothing is really free anyway. U pay in one way or another... ....

Cheers

[QUOTE=Prosal]Of course you're right.

Some JKT high-end clubs girls are wealthy enough to have with you absolutely no materialistic expectations (I've had a one year intermittent relationship with Retno, one of Suharto's granddaughter, and believe me, she was not after a few rupiahs !), some are greedy high-octane bitches only eager to relieve you from your last €, some others are in-between, but anyway with all "elite" categories you can't avoid to repetively pay for the dinner in Blowfish or Dragonfly, for the elaborate cocktails in Manna Lounge or Burgundy, for the entrance and drinks in Centro or wherever and for the occasional after-hours meal in Peacock Cafe.

You are even sometimes tempted to invite one of your fav in your country, especially if she's a C-cup hottie. C'est la vie when you're a clueless monger.

:)[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Prosal]No problems.

By mentionning this particular girl, I wanted to point that Indonesia does play by its own rules ... and that's what makes Jakarta so special ..almost each and every girl of all social classes (even if she's part of the wealthiest elite clique) is usually outgoing, friendly and approachable, and is a potential target.


;)[/QUOTE]

I really hate to say this.......

Maybe u are the potential target too and not just them... Knew a bunch of girls that goes man hunting in Kemang ever so often.

Cheers

[quote=raverboy]pardon my digging up an old post, but i am wondering if oyenk or any jakarta experts out there can recommend a good spa for an excellent no-plus-plus massage session. when visiting a spa for a massage, i generally don't care for any of the extras (that includes hjs!) primarily but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?

i have been to delta spa once before (kelapa gading) but experienced the upsell (to a 4th time-block) by a slightly overweight masseuse who, incidentally, delivered an *excellent* massage with hot stones. basically, is there anywhere else where i can get the same quality massage w/o the upsell (i am there to destress and relax and don't want to be bothered with the sly manoueverings to upsell) and/or can anybody recommend a masseuse at delta (or elsewhere) that can deliver this?[/quote]

you will get it at bersih sehat, the inhouse massage parlour of sahid jaya hotel. its very clean, no frills, and you will find a lot of families waiting to get a massage there including women, both young and old. it used to be located in the old menteng plaza building, which got converted into fortune hotel. the bersih sehat parlour has obtained iso 9000 also.it has many branches across the country, but i know of only these two locations.

the other one is martha tilaar. not only are they located all across indonesia, they have also started expanding into other countries. try them and their lulur susu is also pretty good and relaxing.


cheers

[QUOTE=KL Guy]Bro Rainmain, may I confirm that you paid more than 1/2 a million IR to get in?

KL Guy[/QUOTE]


Bro,

Not sure, 2 ladies, my bule guest and myself. Order a beer and a jug of Illusion. Was told to pay Rups, 566k and so I did.

Comment on Tiga Puluh? why is it so dead? Recent visit to Top Gun and was told by the gals there nowadays rather quiet? Why are the Bules?

Chers

[QUOTE=Jayagopal50]Can some one enlighten me or explain, howcome the thai girls here are better looking and sexier than the ones in singapore and in Pattaya? Can I find such quality elsewhere?[/QUOTE]

Those imported from Thailand are of very high quality. I know the papi that is the supplier and we met in Bangkok too.

When he was working hand in hand with the owner of Golden Crown, he brought in Ms Thailand 2002 then in 2005. Rup 7.5 million for short time and the models fr Rup 5 million ST.

Cheers

PS: He does supply some to Singapore. U need to have contact to be invited for the party. I think Sin150 or 200, 90 min and u can hv 2 shots.

Not sure if anybody wrote anything about this place. Look decent from the outside, an ordinary hotel. If you drive to the back, there are SPA, KTV and a nice lounge and a saloon.

The Music Lounge is cool with a full view of the Swimming pool and the Gym. Funny thing is that there are nearly no solid wall between the lounge and the pool n gym... Sitting in the lounge, u can see the glass suana room n glass Steam room just across the pool which is just outside next to the lounge and the gym. How could anybody be comfortable using these facilities? I walked around but did not use any.

For the SPA, Rup 175k for 90 min massage and free use of any of the facilities there. So went to the changing room n change then into the other lounge (another linked to the massage room) which is huge, dim and a big projector TV.

Was told only one lady left and have to wait a while, that's only 12 noon. Thus order my drink and waited in the empty lounge. 5 min later was told room is ready with the girl. Went in and the room is very nice with mirror, attached bath room. The lady is ......... very no nice....

Anyway, the usual. After a while I asked if she does Vitalitas.... Which is some kind of penis massage. She said she learn before when working on Sari Pan Pacific Hotel SPA. Told her to do it since her massage is so so..... Again not impress as she kept asking if I was a full body massage for Rp 500k.. Just smile and tell her to finish her Vitalitas but she kept asking how much? Would I pay her Rup 500k or not.... I just smile...... Done with Vitalitas and then ask her to finish the massage since we have some time left...

Finish the massage, took my shower in the room and tell her to wait for me outside so I can give her her tips.... She asked again if I would give her Rup 400k..... I smile and went back to the locker and took Rup 200k which is a lot for a HJ..... anyway... her stat as follows : -

Look : 4/10
Service : 5/10
Boobs : sag 32 B maybe
Number : 57... Avoid her...


Location.... Cenkareng FM 7 Hotel and Resort.

Cheers

Thanks for all the replies. The Martha Tilaar Spa looks interesting but is probably a little too 'girly'. I would hate to come across as being impossible but that grey area between Martha Tilaar and Delta would perhaps be what I'm in search of.

Knight1001: I've read about Tropical Spa and think I would try them next. Interesting concept about their 'package' being first hour the ++ services with a masseuse of your choice (from a fishtank?), the remaining 2 hours the house chooses a 'no ++' masseuse for you (is this right?).

Oh well... I guess it could well be back to Delta for me. The only turn offs there are the upsell and the fact that you can't see your masseuse beforehand.

Can't wait to see the pics of "Suharto's granddaughter"!
Maybe a before and after with Rainman doing the finishing shot!
V

I was under the impression that you & a lady friend entrance fees was 500k++ but now the confusion is cleared, thank you for the answer bro Rainman coz for a while I tot they went MAd to charge 250K per pax for entrance fees plus perhaps 1 drink! Your explantion clears it all!

On my last trip saw mostly Dinos and although many bules but many didnt stay on as quality was preety low than used to be!

KL Guy

[QUOTE=Rainman 2108]Bro,

Not sure, 2 ladies, my bule guest and myself. Order a beer and a jug of Illusion. Was told to pay Rups, 566k and so I did.

Comment on Tiga Puluh? why is it so dead? Recent visit to Top Gun and was told by the gals there nowadays rather quiet? Why are the Bules?

Chers[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Raverboy]Thanks for all the replies. The Martha Tilaar Spa looks interesting but is probably a little too 'girly'. I would hate to come across as being impossible but that grey area between Martha Tilaar and Delta would perhaps be what I'm in search of.

Knight1001: I've read about Tropical Spa and think I would try them next. Interesting concept about their 'package' being first hour the ++ services with a masseuse of your choice (from a fishtank?), the remaining 2 hours the house chooses a 'no ++' masseuse for you (is this right?).

Oh well... I guess it could well be back to Delta for me. The only turn offs there are the upsell and the fact that you can't see your masseuse beforehand.[/QUOTE]

Don't forget another option is any of the major hotel spas. The Intercon, ShangriLa, etc etc. The Sahid Jaya hotel is cheap compared to the others. These are more in the 250k for a 60 minute Swedish, but they are always well-trained and no upsell pressure at all.

[QUOTE=Vulcanizer]Can't wait to see the pics of "Suharto's granddaughter"!
Maybe a before and after with Rainman doing the finishing shot!
V[/QUOTE]
Ya-la! Hot shot gets all 'em gals!
SE Asia Joe

[quote=raverboy]pardon my digging up an old post, but i am wondering if oyenk or any jakarta experts out there can recommend a good spa for an excellent no-plus-plus massage session. when visiting a spa for a massage, i generally don't care for any of the extras (that includes hjs!) primarily but want expert hands that can deliver therapeutic massage bliss! if she looks good and i click with her then maybe, just maybe i would indulge ... too much to ask for?
[/quote]
hi raverboy...

no problem, actually i never gone to "clean place" just like you mentioned but it seems some brother here have submitted their knowledges...thank you all for that. i heard bersih sehat is a good place to go if you prefer ""clean place and good massage".

enjoy yourself brother...

[QUOTE=John Aldrich]You will get it at Bersih Sehat, the inhouse massage parlour of Sahid Jaya hotel. Its very clean, no frills, and you will find a lot of families waiting to get a massage there including women, both young and old. It used to be located in the old Menteng Plaza building, which got converted into Fortune hotel. The Bersih Sehat Parlour has obtained ISO 9000 also.It has many branches across the country, but I know of only these two locations.

The other one is Martha Tilaar. Not only are they located all across Indonesia, they have also started expanding into other countries. Try them and their Lulur Susu is also pretty good and relaxing.


Cheers[/QUOTE]
Thank You John Aldrich, Bersih Sehat is a good place I heard eventhough I never gone there...keep infoing brother.

cheers.

[QUOTE=Barson]Guys,

Made my 2nd visit to Classic Spa in 3 weeks and can't help but add my report to share with you. .

Anyway, spot a little white skinned gal with nice face. 8/10 for sure and found the price was only 550k. .

It's Lisna and she is a real stunner. Recommended

Cheers[/QUOTE]Having never been to Classic Spa before and being inspired by Barson’s report I decided to give it a go but I was sorely disappointed and will never bother going back. Maybe I was just unlucky with the day or time of day that I chose to go there. It was a Thursday at around 8:30 pm.

The first disappointment was the cool and unfriendly staff at the front reception desk. Once inside I discovered there were very few ceweks to choose from and none that I could get the least bit excited about but that didn’t stop two really pesky mamasams trying to foist one of them onto me. If they had just left me alone I might have stayed a while, relaxed and had a few drinks and maybe a good girl would have showed up later but instead I got pestered with the hard sell. Finally because I was armed with Barson’s information I tried asking for Lisna but they said there was no such girl. So I went a step further and tried to describe her " small, white skinned girl etc. ". Well that was a mistake cause the mamasams then decided that my fetish must be "white skin" and tried to convince me how many of the girls I had already turned down had such wonderful white skin. By now I’m getting really fed up. I asked again for Lisna by name and eventually they said she was not working that day. So I asked what days she does work there but they wouldn’t tell me. OK. No problem. There are plenty of better places than this to go to so I left. Unfortunately I had made the mistake of already using the locker and changing into the kimono so although I was in the place less that 15 minutes and didn’t use any of the facilities I still had to pay Rp 90, 000. After this misadventure I decided to do a bit more reading on ISG about this place. Obviously people can have very different experiences in the same establishment because Classic has had some good reports. However, a report I found from Mongerxx dated 9/7/2006 is interesting because it mentions the following:

"Overall I thought Classic fell short of Sumo in terms of friendly service, set up, rooms, and local girl selections, price. Problem is that Classic is real close to Kota while Sumo is a 30 minute taxi ride away. The staff at Sumo was awesome and made you feel welcome, I was a little disappointed in the slight aloofness the staff at Classic showed. I would also say that I enjoyed Beverly Hills Spa better except that BHS didn’t have a BM girl line-up"

A good lesson for me. I’ll try to RTFF a bit more before rushing off.

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Was in Maribaya yesterday for the first time in a long while and think that maybe the management is finally trying to do something about the declining business there.

I was surprised to see that there is no longer any seating for the girls in the lobby area in front of the cashier, which means that all the girls on duty have to sit in the main bar area. A small change but it means that when you walk into the bar it feels more lively and friendly than in recent months and of course it is much easier to see and assess the full range of what is on offer. Also, the previous dress restrictions on the girls have been relaxed and they are now able to wear short skirts and other more appealing attire.

As this place has gone downhill I have seen more and more of my old favourites disappear. I hope this might now change. Even as the business has declined at Maribaya I have still found the girls there to have the best service attitude of any other places I have been to. I have never been disappointed at Maribaya with any choice of girl. They are always eager to please and the customer is king. And the one thing that I especially like about going there is the complete freedom to sit down in the bar area, to relax and talk to any of the girls without be rushed or pressured. There are no pestering mamasams – unlike for instance at Classic Spa (see my earlier report). Well yesterday I found a new girl there who turned out to be a real dream. Body 9/10, face 9/10, service 10/10. Gave the best ‘mandi kucing’ I have ever had. Tongue action on the balls was unbelievable. Turns out she has been at Maribaya for the last 7 months and I’ve been missing out all this time. So I for one will be going back to Maribaya much more often now.

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[quote=raverboy]....knight1001: i've read about tropical spa and think i would try them next. interesting concept about their 'package' being first hour the ++ services with a masseuse of your choice (from a fishtank?), the remaining 2 hours the house chooses a 'no ++' masseuse for you (is this right?)...[/quote]

bro,

at tropical you can have one the free lancers sitting oppsite the bar at the fiirst floor for 350,000 rp all in (plus the tip for the girl if you like her, i recommend mary or hany ...mmmmm), for 45 minutes to get laid then the house offers a massage of 1.5 hours free after that, where they choose the therapist, usually an older lady meaning a better massage. it's not a bad deal when you consider it. i tried it and it's quite good.

cheers

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi]Well yesterday I found a new girl there who turned out to be a real dream. Body 9/10, face 9/10, service 10/10. Gave the best ‘mandi kucing’ I have ever had. Tongue action on the balls was unbelievable. Turns out she has been at Maribaya for the last 7 months and I’ve been missing out all this time. So I for one will be going back to Maribaya much more often now.
[/QUOTE]

This is good news bro but help us out with a name for this treasure.

SK

They can move around all the furniture they want and lax all the dress restrictions they want. The reason business is down is because they raised prices to such a point that, regardless of level of service, is just not a good deal in Jakarta anymore when compared to most other venues and spas.

I still make it to this place at least once per trip and agree the service is outstanding. But the room quality and lighting along with a 450K price tag (including tip) is mostly just not worth it in my mind. That price tag just does not justify and is not in line with the quality of women they have there, especially when coupled with their facilities. So what once was a stop three or four times a trip is now a stop just once.

It was teetering on not being worth it at 400K all in, but at 450K, it just is not. Sure, that is only about $6 or so US dollars more. But again, compared to what I can get at other venues that 450K is pretty expensive for crappy rooms that seriously need to be remodeled and for ladies in the 26-35 age range.

The ladies often want customers to take two women, although they rarely perform with each other. Mainly it is just being able to fuck two women. But that is now 900K instead of the previously 800K.

If they really wanted to improve business, they would lower their prices. But I have noticed with past venues in other countries this rarely happens. Instead, as customers decline they keep raising prices to squeeze what little more they can out of them before they go away entirely. Moving around some couches and changing what the ladies can wear will not solve the core issue causing their decline in business.

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi]Was in Maribaya yesterday for the first time in a long while and think that maybe the management is finally trying to do something about the declining business there.

I was surprised to see that there is no longer any seating for the girls in the lobby area in front of the cashier, which means that all the girls on duty have to sit in the main bar area. A small change but it means that when you walk into the bar it feels more lively and friendly than in recent months and of course it is much easier to see and assess the full range of what is on offer. Also, the previous dress restrictions on the girls have been relaxed and they are now able to wear short skirts and other more appealing attire.

As this place has gone downhill I have seen more and more of my old favourites disappear. I hope this might now change. Even as the business has declined at Maribaya I have still found the girls there to have the best service attitude of any other places I have been to. I have never been disappointed at Maribaya with any choice of girl. They are always eager to please and the customer is king. And the one thing that I especially like about going there is the complete freedom to sit down in the bar area, to relax and talk to any of the girls without be rushed or pressured. There are no pestering mamasams – unlike for instance at Classic Spa (see my earlier report). Well yesterday I found a new girl there who turned out to be a real dream. Body 9/10, face 9/10, service 10/10. Gave the best ‘mandi kucing’ I have ever had. Tongue action on the balls was unbelievable. Turns out she has been at Maribaya for the last 7 months and I’ve been missing out all this time. So I for one will be going back to Maribaya much more often now.

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[QUOTE=Rainman 2108]Those imported from Thailand are of very high quality. I know the papi that is the supplier and we met in Bangkok too.

When he was working hand in hand with the owner of Golden Crown, he brought in Ms Thailand 2002 then in 2005. Rup 7.5 million for short time and the models fr Rup 5 million ST.

Cheers

PS: He does supply some to Singapore. U need to have contact to be invited for the party. I think Sin150 or 200, 90 min and u can hv 2 shots.[/QUOTE]Hey mate,

I have been frequenting JKT very often nowadays.. Getting addicted.. LOLZ. If i remember correctly, the last time I went X2 on ladies night.. sucks.. not packed.. But pretty like red square. I was wondering if you know the person that is bringing all this Thai models like ms thailand and all to jkt do you know any high class models that are in indonesia and do you have the contacts?

1 last question.. I'm wondering why Ms thailand would actually sell herself when she could get a rich husband in thailand??

Ex

[QUOTE=Xenono]They can move around all the furniture they want and lax all the dress restrictions they want. The reason business is down is because they raised prices to such a point that, regardless of level of service, is just not a good deal in Jakarta anymore when compared to most other venues and spas...... [/QUOTE]I agree their rooms are crap but for me service is what matters. For example, I found one of my old favourites at Maribaya had moved to Alexis, where of course the rooms and other facilities are high class. Her service is the same (still fabulous) but I had to pay nearly double what she cost at Maribaya.

Emporium is another good alternative to classic, and is located in the same general area. Though it opens at 1pm, most of the girls don't show up until around 3pm or so. There are many categories: local massage girls which you have to choose by number (42 and 51 give good massage and excellent BBBJCIM for a 300K tip), local freelancers (500K and 800K), and PRC and Thai imports (1. 2 million). Sometimes there are uzbeks and (I was told) columbians as well. Staff are friendly, place is clean, the facilities are secure. Freelancers are hit and miss--differences in price are mostly reflect age and color, with younger, fairer girls more likely to be in the 800K category. Never tried the imports--price is too high and I can't speak Chinese or Thai!

[QUOTE=Exit93]Hey mate,

I have been frequenting JKT very often nowadays.. Getting addicted.. LOLZ. If i remember correctly, the last time I went X2 on ladies night.. sucks.. not packed.. But pretty like red square. I was wondering if you know the person that is bringing all this Thai models like ms thailand and all to jkt do you know any high class models that are in indonesia and do you have the contacts?

1 last question.. I'm wondering why Ms thailand would actually sell herself when she could get a rich husband in thailand??

Ex[/QUOTE]As regards Ms Thailand. I mentioned ex miss Thailand and nobody pay that much for a shot when there are model everywhere in Thailand.

As regards to contact. It's illegal bix thus no key contact would be given.

Regards

[QUOTE=Oyenk]Hi Raverboy...

no problem, actually I never gone to "clean place" just like you mentioned but it seems some brother here have submitted their knowledges...thank you all for that. I heard Bersih Sehat is a good place to go if you prefer ""clean place and good massage".

enjoy yourself brother...[/QUOTE]

A new branch of Bersih Sehat has opened on Jl Wahid Hasyim behind Sarinah almost next to the Ibis Arcadia hotel and opposite Ibis Tamarind. But while the middle-aged ibu-ibus give wonderful massages have no expectations of trying to get anything more than a good clean massage!

And yes I have gone through the forum brothers.

I stay in JKTA a few times a year. And usually accompanied by a colleague so I have to pla, y with discretion.

Anyways I have a cute "friend" there who always gives me a freebie night, and a couple of others. Free ones for the nights.

I usually stay at Le Meridien and so have been to spa across the road which is good but I like something a little more basic sometimes.

So have been to a few hotels there. Mega Cickini an its sister hotel in Menteng as I like the pick and chose from a photo album and then seeing they look nothing like their pic.

Anyways the question is. Where else is there near to Le Meridien where I can pick a girl from an album and get 90 minutes of enjoyment. I love the way they have no qualms about getting naked as opposed to some more uptight countries. Any help much appreciated.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Anyways the question is. Where else is there near to Le Meridien where I can pick a girl from an album and get 90 minutes of enjoyment. I love the way they have no qualms about getting naked as opposed to some more uptight countries. Any help much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

If you get on the busway, Kota is close, only about 15 - 20 minutes away. Get off at Mangga Besar or Olimo and go to Berlian or Kartika. If you go to Berlian, say hi to Rena, lovely girl from Riau, fun to hang out with, good oral skills, aims to please, quite pretty, small body and small tits but a nice shape. Tight fanny. Prefers to give a BJ with a condom on, but is prepared to compromise her principles. Worth recommending.

They do have an album of photos there, but I don't think that's a good way to choose. Better to sit around the bar and strike up a conversation, see who looks keen to please and good in the flesh. Not really a high pressure environment. The young Chinese guy with long hair, the owner's rep, is a friendly guy and will make a good recommendation if you want.

I left Jakarta a couple of days ago and I'd like to thank Bulai69, KLGuy and Ebowan for making time to meet me; Traveler1234 for being my postillon d'amour; Knight1001 for the sausages and the Rocamadour, and of course for Ah Ping; Panya, MDII and company for the mini-vibrator and the karaoke experiences and especially my good friend JAD2 who introduced me to the special girls (Tina!) and women.
I'm sorry to have missed MS, Hungman, Smoothy, Sabath and Dorman during that visit.

Keep mongering guys and keep me informed!

[QUOTE=Menteng]I left Jakarta a couple of days ago and I'd like to thank Bulai69, KLGuy and Ebowan for making time to meet me; Traveler1234 for being my postillon d'amour; Knight1001 for the sausages and the Rocamadour, and of course for Ah Ping; Panya, MDII and company for the mini-vibrator and the karaoke experiences and especially my good friend JAD2 who introduced me to the special girls (Tina!) and women.
I'm sorry to have missed MS, Hungman, Smoothy, Sabath and Dorman during that visit.

Keep mongering guys and keep me informed![/QUOTE]

It was my pleasure to meet you and everyone else. You will return, right? We need to visit our favorite restaurant ;)

Some time ago when I first discovered BATS in Jakarta I naively asked what does BATS stand for and was told rather curtly that it means "Bar At The Shangri-La". Mmm. I thought. How stupid of me not to work that one out. It’s a perfectly logical acronym but also one of the most boring I’ve ever heard. However, as time has gone by and based on my humble observations and experiences I have decided that this simple acronym deserves a profounder meaning, especially for those of the Jakarta mongering fraternity who have taken the trouble to learn some Indonesian. Herewith the true meaning of BATS: "Banyak Ayam Tersedia Sini".

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi]I agree their rooms are crap but for me service is what matters. For example, I found one of my old favourites at Maribaya had moved to Alexis, where of course the rooms and other facilities are high class. Her service is the same (still fabulous) but I had to pay nearly double what she cost at Maribaya.[/QUOTE]I visited maribaya last week during the day. Session was OK but forgettable. So forgettable that I've forgotten the girl's name. Anyway, the cost was 400K, not 450K. Do you get a discount for speaking Indonesian? I've read on one of the local boards that the price is 400K for locals, and 450K for bule. I'm most certainly a bule, but pretty good with indonesian.

Yes, one can get younger girls in Kota for half the price, but performance may not be as good, and the rooms in Pangjay are just as bad. When you are my age, the difference between a 28 year old and an 18 year old doesn't seem that great anyway!

I look forward to seeing you on your return, no doubt you will back!

[QUOTE=Bulai69]I look forward to seeing you on your return, no doubt you will back![/QUOTE]

Like wise & I have no doubt the Great Menteng will be back!

[QUOTE=Rainman 2108]Not sure if anybody wrote anything about this place. Look decent from the outside, an ordinary hotel. If you drive to the back, there are SPA, KTV and a nice lounge and a saloon.[/quote]I wrote about this place sometimes back. I have visited three times. Two times were ok, got good girls. Nice rooms with dimming switch. Good place to relax anyway.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]I visited maribaya last week during the day. Session was OK but forgettable. So forgettable that I've forgotten the girl's name. Anyway, the cost was 400K, not 450K. Do you get a discount for speaking Indonesian? I've read on one of the local boards that the price is 400K for locals, and 450K for bule. I'm most certainly a bule, but pretty good with indonesian.

Yes, one can get younger girls in Kota for half the price, but performance may not be as good, and the rooms in Pangjay are just as bad. When you are my age, the difference between a 28 year old and an 18 year old doesn't seem that great anyway![/QUOTE]

my understanding is the price is 400 (up from 350 not so long ago) the 50k additional you refer to I assume is a tip, which is a nice thing to do. I think one key point in the Melawais favour is its location in relation to where most expats live allowing for discreet diversions, plus the bar concept (relaxed no pressure). At the end of the day its cheap for most people that visit these places I would imagine. Yes cheaper is available, as is twice the price.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Emporium is another good alternative to Classic, and is located in the same general area. Though it opens at 1pm, most of the girls don't show up until around 3pm or so. There are many categories: local massage girls which you have to choose by number (42 and 51 give good massage and excellent BBBJCIM for a 300K tip), local freelancers (500K and 800K), and PRC and Thai imports (1. 2 million). Sometimes there are uzbeks and (I was told) columbians as well. Staff are friendly, place is clean, the facilities are secure. Freelancers are hit and miss--differences in price are mostly reflect age and color, with younger, fairer girls more likely to be in the 800K category. Never tried the imports--price is too high and I can't speak Chinese or Thai![/QUOTE]
Despite being in Jakarta for over two years full-time, I had never gone to Emporium before, so I decided to check it out yesterday afternoon.

Walked in around 4:30 p.m. and was presented with a routine that's typical of many higher-end places - the front desk gives you a numbered locker key on a bracelet, an attendant takes your shoes and gives you slippers (to keep guys from leaving without paying? hmmm), then you go to the locker room and change into cotton shorts and top. You have the option of using the sauna or jacuzzi, or else go straight upstairs to a large room where the girls are.

Member #3088's description of the overall place and the girls is accurate so I won't repeat it. There were around 15 girls on the couches when I walked in, including one stunning Chinese girl (too expensive!) but also three other average-looking Chinese girls as well as the freelancers. Although some of the freelancers were cute, I decided to try one of the massage girls (the house sends you to a massage room, picks the girl for you sight unseen and sends her to join you in the massage room).

Gllad I took the risk, the house sent me #38, Widya, age 22, easily the equal of any of the freelancers I had seen on the couches. Widya is cute, very long straight black hair, big by Indonesian standards (but not fat) at 1.64 meter and 50-52 kgs. Appeared to have a large set of tits but that could have been a padded bra, wasn't sure at first.

The massage itself was competent and fun. At one point, I asked her why she didn't work as a freelancer since she was as good-looking as any of them, and she replied no, she didn't want that type of work, she enjoyed doing the regular massage. But she also made it clear that she enjoyed playing around with bules (foreigners) like me and she liked their big dicks, but that she only did hand jobs on a first visit, that I'd have to come back for a second visit if I wanted more.

Fair enough. At hand-job time, I indicated that I wanted her to take her top off. She did and my jaw dropped - she had no bra on underneath, her tits were naturally huge and firm with no sag at all, without a doubt the best set of tits I've found in any MP in Jakarta. Bigger than Cynthia of Kartika's tits, and slightly bigger and much better than the tits on Ety, who had worked at Maribaya last year for about 6 months (Smoothy should remember those tits!).

While I've stopped recommending girls here on ISG, in this case I'll make an exception - anyone who lives in Jakarta and who loves big firm tits should definitely check out Widya, #38 at Emporium.

Got to play around a lot and ended up with a "Russian" finish, or tit-fucking, which was great with a little baby oil on those big tits. Turns out that she was on her period (my roving hand discovered the pad), she told me that her period had started that morning but that I should come back in a week for more. Yes, I'll be back!

Total cost: 200,000 rupiah house fee for 90 minutes (two 45-minute sessions) in a room with a shower (second-lowest-price room choice, there are also higher-priced rooms available with bathtub and TV), plus tip, which she never asked for, I just gave her 150,000 rupiah and she put it in her bag without looking at it.

Note: Emporium offers a "happy hour" special between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m. - pay for two 45-minute sessions (the minimum) and get an additional 45 minutes for free. Not sure how many girls are on duty at that time, however.

Visited fortune in karet today. Session with #39, recommended on indonesian board. She was friendly, but as is sometimes typical for girls recommended by locals, a bit plump and fair. Fair or not fair doesn't matter to me, but I don't like 'them too plump or, as we say 'mantap'. Anyway, she gave a very nice massage, with a bit of teasing here and there, then finished with a patient and capable HJ. She accepted what I gave her without looking at the amount (300K--yes, a lot, but I'm grateful, OK? ).

Nice Sundanese girl from west Java, intelligent, 27 years old, one kid, who follows local politics.

[QUOTE=Menteng]I left Jakarta a couple of days ago and I'd like to thank Bulai69, KLGuy and Ebowan for making time to meet me; Traveler1234 for being my postillon d'amour; Knight1001 for the sausages and the Rocamadour, and of course for Ah Ping; Panya, MDII and company for the mini-vibrator and the karaoke experiences and especially my good friend JAD2 who introduced me to the special girls (Tina!) and women.
I'm sorry to have missed MS, Hungman, Smoothy, Sabath and Dorman during that visit.

Keep mongering guys and keep me informed![/QUOTE]

Menteng,

It was a pleasure to see you this last trip of yours in Indonesia though looking back in time, I wish we'd met more, done more, but that is life ... until next time.

I also left Jakarta a week ago and was very happy with all the nice people I came to meet there, some through this site and otherwise, too many to mention by name but all fantastic people, each one in his own way.

I will definitely count the days to get back as I will be back some day. I thank all of you bro's for the wonderful times we shared together.

Keep the monguering alive, Jakarta is in my modest opinion the best place on earth for that, and please report back to keep us afloat ... and alive ...

All the best and god bless all of you,

Knight

As someone who grew up in the New York City area, I had to chuckle at the latest story about the governor of New York, Eliot Spitzer, in particular that he paid the prostitute U.S. $4,300 plus unlimited access to the room's minibar for 2 1/2 hours of sex in a hotel room with him.

$4,300 plus unlimited access to the minibar? Better not let the BATS girls hear about this!

Whaa, ha, ha, ha ......
Good Old Big Apple, missed everything about New York City.

Ciao,
Pete33


[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]As someone who grew up in the New York City area, I had to chuckle at the latest story about the governor of New York, Eliot Spitzer, in particular that he paid the prostitute U.S. $4,300 plus unlimited access to the room's minibar for 2 1/2 hours of sex in a hotel room with him.

$4,300 plus unlimited access to the minibar? Better not let the BATS girls hear about this![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman] that he paid the prostitute U.S. $4,300 plus unlimited access to the room's minibar for 2 1/2 hours of sex in a hotel room with him.[/QUOTE]
And is that amount "spoiling the market"
or the usual going rate? :D

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]A new branch of Bersih Sehat has opened on Jl Wahid Hasyim behind Sarinah almost next to the Ibis Arcadia hotel and opposite Ibis Tamarind. But while the middle-aged ibu-ibus give wonderful massages have no expectations of trying to get anything more than a good clean massage![/QUOTE]
Nice info Spice Lover, keep them coming...

Really appreciate your info.

Recently with a friend visited this newly opened place at Mangga Dua area. This is in the block opposite the Le Granduer Hotel. Somewhere behind the HSBC. The reception girls looked at as if we were coming for a free service, no greeting. Changed and went up. The staff (there is a chinese supervisor) don't seem to know what courtesys are. I choose a number which was available on the board but had to wait a good 15 minutes and on re-checking I was told she is busy. Anyway finally proceeded to the massage area. The whole place is so noisy and did not a get a good massage too. Would not recommend this place.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]And is that amount "spoiling the market"
or the usual going rate? :D[/QUOTE]
In an idle moment, I calculated that:

- if Spitzer had spent the entire year of 2007 in Jakarta

- he could have had two sessions per week at an MP in Kota, paying the usual hour rate of 200,000 or 250,000 rupiah plus a 50,000 rupiah tip

- for all 52 weeks of the year

- it still would have cost less than US $4,300 at the current exchange rate.

Plus no minibar expenses!

********************

and, as Bulai69 and others have already pointed out, you're only fooling yourself if you think that the sex is better simply because you've paid a lot of money for it.

Remember, the girl who's asking for 1 million rupiah at 9 p.m. at BATS is the same girl who's available for 400,000 rupiah at D's Place several hours later.

MS you are god in the feild, we would lost without you. Once again thank again for reminding us the true wisdom that you have.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]In an idle moment, I calculated that:

- If Spitzer had spent the entire year of 2007 in Jakarta

- He could have had two sessions per week at an MP in Kota, paying the usual hour rate of 200,000 or 250,000 rupiah plus a 50,000 rupiah tip

- For all 52 weeks of the year

- It still would have cost less than US $4,300 at the current exchange rate.

Plus no minibar expenses!

********************

And, as Bulai69 and others have already pointed out, you're only fooling yourself if you think that the sex is better simply because you've paid a lot of money for it.

Remember, the girl who's asking for 1 million rupiah at 9 p.m. at BATS is the same girl who's available for 400,000 rupiah at D's Place several hours later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Remember, the girl who's asking for 1 million rupiah at 9 p.m. at BATS is the same girl who's available for 400,000 rupiah at D's Place several hours later.[/QUOTE]
I know a chubby girl who used to work at Medika, 170K. Then she moved Bintang Mawar, 280K. This girl has been working for more than 10 years. Last Monday I went to CJ's with MD, and I saw her freelancing there.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

In the forum I have read that D's Place has some sort of topless dancing (competition ?) on some nights. Can anyone tell me on which nights (and what time) that topless dancing is ???

any info is appreciated

[QUOTE=MarkIII]In the forum I have read that D's Place has some sort of topless dancing (competition ?) on some nights. Can anyone tell me on which nights (and what time) that topless dancing is ???

any info is appreciated[/QUOTE]

Usually upstairs at around midnite on a Saturday. Sometimes on a Friday, they issue water pistols so you can squirt them and make the tee shirts see through, it usually degenerates into a semi naked show. If you want more just go into the VIP room and hang around for a while usually two or three girls will be doing a full naked show if someone has thrown 100K at them. Quality can be so so.

Enjoy.

A lot better looking too!
Vulcanizer

[QUOTE=Pancha]Recently with a friend visited this newly opened place at Mangga Dua area. This is in the block opposite the Le Granduer Hotel. Somewhere behind the HSBC. The reception girls looked at as if we were coming for a free service, no greeting. Changed and went up. The staff (there is a chinese supervisor) don't seem to know what courtesys are. I choose a number which was available on the board but had to wait a good 15 minutes and on re-checking I was told she is busy. Anyway finally proceeded to the massage area. The whole place is so noisy and did not a get a good massage too. Would not recommend this place.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your report Pancha...

That could happen because they are still in Grand launching / lots of discount for the room rate or beverages...eventhough I haven't gone here.

[QUOTE=MarkIII]In the forum I have read that D's Place has some sort of topless dancing (competition ?) on some nights. Can anyone tell me on which nights (and what time) that topless dancing is ???

any info is appreciated[/QUOTE]If you go to Malioboro there is regular topless dancing at 7, 9, 11, 1. Around 6 and 8 they also do topless dancing in the Suana (pool) area. Only thing is one Tequilla shot costs 50k which they will market effectively. So you have to control that.

Hi guys

Im on my way to JK and like to hunt and chat up more than full take away service in Blok M and wanted to know on your opinion on CJs v Embassy and the place at the shopping centre also close by. I want to meet other girls as sick of the usual hello mister stuff

feedback would be great

Thnx

Hi Bro Gzono,

A while a bunch of us were out celebrating one our friend 50th birthday, we end up at the hotel Malawai 6th floor. He check in with two girls and every 5 mins we send a girl to him till he got five girls for his birthday.

We also armed him with a mini bull horn and a Video camera.

He came out with a smile from ear to ear, saying that was the best; he was the actor\director and producer of his own porn movie. There will always be better places and better girls. But in my humble opinion this is will be the most fun. My take on CJs and Embassy very classy and very dear cause there is always some wise smart that will spoil the market.

[QUOTE=Gzono]Hi guys,

Im on my way to JK and like to hunt and chat up more than full take away service in Blok M and wanted to know on your opinion on CJs v Embassy and the place at the shopping centre also close by. I want to meet other girls as sick of the usual hello mister stuff

feedback would be great

Thnx[/QUOTE]

As noted in previous posts, this is a good spot for lunchtime action. At noon, precisely nine girls were available--three downstairs, three on the 1st floor, and three working on their makeup on the second floor. None were especially outstanding, but I made my choice and enjoyed an hour with young Maya from--where else?.-Indramayu, who was obliging but not especially energetic or talented.

200K for one hour. Room was clean with hot water in the shower. Friendly staff.

In Maribaya, older (but still younger than me by a long way.) but more skilled girls at double the price (or about $22 more, depending upon ones' point of view). Better rooms in Anggerek. Anggerek in the north, Maribaya in the south.

So take your pick, guys.

As a sort of experiment, visited Maribaya this afternoon. About 20 girls present, no knockouts, but some nice-lookers. Chose a 23 year old girl with pretty good oral skills, friendly, and good-natured. Gave her 100 rp tip, with 400K for the house. Can hardly complain about this deal. Indeed, one can find younger girls at half the price in Kota, but they are more likely to have fewer skills than those at Maribaya. But as we all know, the rooms in Maribaya are pretty lousy. As my place of work is about equidistant between kota and blok M, I'll guess I'll just have to sample both from time to time.

Went to Malioboro yesterday (Sunday, 5.30 pm - apparently I missed the happy hour which ended at 5pm - apparently you get 50% off for the room charge or something during the happy hour). I drove a car into the building, and I handed it to the valet parking guy. I stepped inside the building to the counter/front desk - there's only one lobby and counter so you won't miss it. I told them I was going to the spa, and the lady behind the desk right away gave me a numbered wrist-band with a locker key attached - pretty standard for such a place, I guess. She also told me that should I happen to NOT have a massage with the girl(s), I'd have to pay a minimum charge of Rp 79,000 - I said, "okay".

From the lobby, there's only one door leading to the main complex (read: action). Past that door is a hallway with stairs to one side. If you go left, you'll go into the locker, shower and jacuzzi. If you follow the staircase up to the 2nd floor, you'll enter the bar/restaurant with the striptease stage and where all the girls congregate.

Not having exactly known my bearing (it's my first time there), I stepped into the locker and was faced with a group of guy attendants who showed me to my locker and gave me a pair of shorts and robe to change into. So after changing into my shorts and robe, I left all my belongings (money, wallet, phone, pants) in the locker and I stepped outside the locker room and asked where should I go to get a massage. The guy told me to go upstairs.

On the 2nd floor, I turned left, and I saw two doors (maybe there was a third, I can't remember) - one leading to the bar, one leading to a "theater". Before heading to the bar, I stepped into the "theater" first - I'm not sure what this room is really for (maybe any of you guys could help enlighten?), but the room was dimly lit and I saw couches and tables spread across the room, reminiscent of the private rooms of a strip club, and I saw a few of the working ladies sitting around. Since it was dark in there, I decided to get out of there right away and head straight to the bar instead.

Inside the bar, there were about 20-30 girls sitting around, grouped of course, by nationalities. There were some guys (fellow mongers) there eating food and drinking too. I was approached by the local "mommy" who introduced herself as Ambonk (read: Um-Bong) - pretty nice lady, soft-spoken but extremely helpful (not sure if she speaks English though - I spoke bahasa with her). She showed me to an empty table and sat with me. A waiter approached and I ordered a Coke (he took down my wristband number so he could charge the drink to my tab).

Next, Ambonk gave me an orientation of the room... to one corner, a group of PRCs sat (they were good looking, some were model quality stunners), at another part of the room, a group of Latinas sat, and right in front of me, the local Indonesian ladies. Here's the price list:

Imports: PRC, Latina - Rp. 1.500.000, Thai - Rp. 1.200.000? can't quite remember
Locals: there are the Rp 800.000 ones, and there are the Rp 350.000 ones.

Apparently the ones sitting in front of me are the Rp 800.000 locals.

Not sure if the rates in this kind of places are negotiable (anyone tried?).

If I get an import or the Rp 800.000 local, they'll give me the VIP room free of charge. If I get a Rp 350.000 local, I'll only get the standard room.

Not long after that, another "mommy" called Ah-Mei came to my table and introduced herself - Ambonk told me that she's in charge of the imports.

So, I sat down maybe for another 15 minutes with Ambonk, and took my time to look around the room, scouting for the best lays available. A few of the PRCs were really hot - dang! And there was a Mexican brunette with straight, long hair, with a slim body but killer boobs (looks like C/D cups) - shit, she walked past my table and definitely got my heart beating faster. Ambonk told me that if I wanted to, she could call the girls to my table and have them all line up in front of me group by group (I thought, shit, hell yeah!!) - but unfortunately, I chickened out and didn't do it though coz I didn't want to attract too much attention my way (there being other customers and all - mostly Indo Chinese).

So then I asked Ambonk where the Rp 350.000 locals are, and she told me that they're in another room, but she could call them all here to my table - again, I chickened out and told her well, maybe next time. I then asked her to recommend me which Rp 800.000 locals I should go for - she pointed to three of them that are nice (= won't give me attitude): they are Mira, Imelda and I can't remember the name of the third one. Mira is petite with a small, tight, slim body with average boobs. Imelda and the other one are 5'6" ish (pretty tall for Indonesians) with model-quality bodies and killer boobs - hot hot hot!!! I told Ambonk I'd go for Mira and Imelda (yeah, threesome baby!). Mira's wearing a candy blue tank top with a pair of jeans, while Imelda's wearing a brown top and a pair of sexy shorts (slurp!).

So Mira and Imelda came over to my table and took me upstairs to a VIP room. Ambonk told me to have fun and she'll wait for me at the bar after I'm done with the girls. So upstairs (3rd floor) is a hallway of rooms (much like the inside of a hotel - I even saw some cleaning staff and a housekeeping cart) and we went into one of them. Inside the room is a queen sized bed, a sink and a bathtub (big enough for 3 people).

I started chatting with the girls (while taking the liberty to grope them at strategic places) and found out they're both from Subang (I heard that town is pretty famous for producing good looking women). They kept on laughing when I groped them - it seemed that I was pretty successful in getting them into a good humor. They then started taking their clothes off, but I told them to leave their underwear on for me to play with. Both of them were wearing panties with the stringy sides and bottoms (not exactly a thong, but pretty close), so I took turns sticking my dick into their panties from the sides and back, and this drove them into such wild laughter and they told me I must have watched too much porn. Haha.

Anyway, after personally taking off their bras one by one, I had some preliminary kissing and sucking on those lovely nipples: Mira's tits were nicely shaped and her nipples stood up so nicely; Imelda's tits were amazing, they're so big yet shapely - perfect! It took me a while of licking and sucking and tickling with my tongue to get Imelda's nipples to stand up though.

After that, they asked me to step into the shower to wash up. So I took of their panties one by one and gave them a kiss and a squeeze on each butt cheek in the process. Then Mira stepped into the shower with me, and she started soaping and washing herself (down there) and she soaped and washed me too and played with my soapy dick for a little bit, while Imelda took out a toothbrush from her make-up bag and started brushing her teeth.

After Mira and I stepped out of the shower, Imelda went and washed herself up too. This time, Mira took out a bottle of Listerine from her purse and started gargling at the sink. Meanwhile, I squatted by the bathtub and shamelessly gawked at Imelda washing herself up, fingering her pussy. I started groping Imelda again once in a while at various places while she was showering. I could tell that my behaviour was amusing the girls coz they both kept on laughing.

So then we dried ourselves and they told me to lie down on the bed. They both couldn't decide who should suck my dick first so I told them to do a scissors-paper-stone. It turned out that Mira would go down on me first, so she started first by licking and kissing (cat bath) my thighs, and then slowly my balls. Imelda, meanwhile started licking and sucking on my nipples and she also gave me a cat bath all over my shoulders, neck and she stuck her tongue into my ear and started nibbling. I couldn't quite remember where my hands were but I was pretty sure they were all over them hoochies.

Since Imelda was all over me and I couldn't quite watch what Mira was doing with my dick down there, I didn't realize that Mira already slipped a condom on and was giving me a CBJ. Good suction, but I still prefer BBBJ anytime... but oh well, whatever it still feels pretty good. Then, I told them to switch, it's Imelda's turn to suck my dick now. So then the girls actually took out my condom and put on a fresh one on me... hmmm... germophobes! But whatever, maybe this is the way they do it (it's my first threesome so I'm not sure if the girls are willing to do BBBJ in a threesome - anyone with a threesome BBBJ experience before perhaps?)

So then Imelda started sucking my dick and oooh.. she had such a suction too. Mira just sat next to me with my arm around her, and her boobs next to my face, and we both were watching Imelda suck on my dick. I was in heaven...

After that, Mira started riding me on top while Imelda was sucking on my nipples again. Then I got up and switched to missionary without taking my dick off Mira's pussy. I continued pumping Mira while Imelda occasionally sandwiched me from the back and helped me push, and she also sometimes played with my balls or slapped me on the butt. Hell yeah!!

Then I lie down again, and this time (after switching me to a fresh condom) Imelda rode me on top while Mira sat next to me again with my arm around her, and we both watched Imelda moving up and down my shaft. Next, I switched again to missionary with Imelda while Mira was watching from behind and occasionally slapping my butt. Not so long after that, I came inside Imelda. Phew... fun!

This time, I stepped into the shower with Imelda who soaped me and cleaned me up. Mira followed after that.

I had such a good time with these girls - and the entire time they were so good humored too. One hour and a half well spent! Not clock watchers at all.

After washing up, etc. they both walked me back into the bar where I met their "mommy" Ambonk again. Ambonk sat again with me at a table and asked how my session went. We chatted for a little bit more, and then we exchanged phone numbers, and here's what I found out from her:

1. Go there on weekdays 5-7pm for the maximum number of girls available to pick (can anyone verify this?)
2. There's striptease on the stage (full nudity) with local girls on weekday evenings.
3. On Sunday evening, there's sexy dancing on the stage (Thai girls) but no nudity though - I think this is just the kind you'll find on Club 36, no clothes come off.

Ambonk asked me if I'd like to stay and watch the Thai girls sexy dancing which was about to happen soon, but since I already had my fill and had some errands to take care of, I declined. I gave Ambonk Rp 50.000 tips and left the bar - she told me to call her the next time I go to Malioboro.

I went back to the locker and changed back into my clothes, and back outside at the front desk, they showed me the bill:

Rp 1.600.000 for the girls, and Rp. 34.000 for a glass of Coke and Rp 15.000 for valet parking. I paid cash and sat at the lobby while they fetched my car. I left and gave the valet driver Rp 10.000 tips.

On hindsight: since I don't care for the spa, the next time, I wouldn't even bother going into the locker to change into shorts and robe. I'd simply head straight up into the bar and look for the "mommy" to accompany me while I inspect the line-up.

Moral of the story: it pays to be nice to the "mommy" and develop a rapport with her, hell, maybe I'd even ask her to join in on the action next time - has anyone had successfully invited the "mommy" to join in? The import "mommy" there (Ah Mei) looks pretty decent too... a little bit old, but hell I'd fuck her for sure.

Also, another question to my fellow monger brothers out there: what is the record number of girls to "do" at the same time? Has anyone tried a four-some, five-some maybe? I know it gets expensive especially with a place like Malioboro, but I'm just curious. If I had the money, maybe I'd line up like 6 to 7 girls in a row, ask them to bend over and I'd take turn fucking each one of them from one end of the line to another.. that'd be pretty fun, no? But if I had to change the condom everytime I switch to a different girl, it might get tiresome fast... Anyone has had any such experience?

PS:
Look, I don't know if this report is too long for this forum's standard, but I had such a good time that I want to share it with you guys in details.

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It's better served at these places on weekdays, i found. One reason could be some of them may be having regular clientale on weekends and on weekdays they can go out of the house in the pretext of doing a regular job. I feel locals better at Classic and non locals better at Malioboro.

Cheers

Hi,

I saw report someone looking...(soory for dull post)

Last Sunday was visiting D Best in Fatmawati with Galaxy and all the tired old over priced massage places.

Saw a new Thai place just after u pass the supermarket in a corner on the right.

Nice interior, the girl was pleasant and it relaxed me but no added extras...nice for a change sometime. Ohh and easy on the wallet at about 100k for 90 minnute thai massage.

I personally find it absolutely shocking that some people are paying 800k for short time with a girl in Jakarta. And 1.5 million for a chinese girl is a complete rip off (in my opinion). It seems to me that paying those prices in a place like Malioboro is just going to help to increase prices city wide. I don't think those girls are one bit better than the girls you can get at other places in town for 220k.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I personally find it absolutely shocking that some people are paying 800k for short time with a girl in Jakarta. And 1.5 million for a chinese girl is a complete rip off (in my opinion). It seems to me that paying those prices in a place like Malioboro is just going to help to increase prices city wide. I don't think those girls are one bit better than the girls you can get at other places in town for 220k.[/QUOTE]

These higher end places exist all over town, many of them are very busy places. This seems to indicate that there are many different price ranges for same or similar products. this is simple economics at work. its no different to buying a Bintang at aphrodite vs BATS, both places are busy. I dont see why BATS being full of high paying Bintang drinkers will put the prices of Bintang up in Aphrodite. Coke in road side stall vs Coke in a decent hotel is another example. I could go on, but I am sure you can see my point in this regard.

Sit back and relax Smoothy, you dont need to worry about your 220k prices going up any more than say the 10% yearly inflation in my opinion..

Personally I prefer the 400k plus tip Melawai, but will dabble in the higher end places from time to time, as well as doing a Kota soapy rub on occasions as my sexual addiction dictates :-)

take care fellow mongers

SIJ.

[quote=knight 1001]bro,

at tropical you can have one the free lancers sitting oppsite the bar at the fiirst floor for 350,000 rp all in (plus the tip for the girl if you like her, i recommend mary or hany ...mmmmm), for 45 minutes to get laid then the house offers a massage of 1.5 hours free after that, where they choose the therapist, usually an older lady meaning a better massage. it's not a bad deal when you consider it. i tried it and it's quite good.

cheers[/quote]went to tropical a week ago and can say that the special fl packet and free massage is likely to be gone with the price now split in to 160k for the house paid downstair and 200k directly to the girl.

anyhow tried no 15 and recommend to anyone who's looking for a good suction and ball sucking experience. she is a champion who can dive deep and stay low and long. can't remember the name though.

cheers

Tried driving tour around Manga Dua area, went pass Lokasari plaza and remember reading something about the place so went into the car park of Matahari and straight away saw the big sign of today Country.

Went in there at 1500pm and found too dark to even tell whether the person in front of me is a girl or not so walk out of there. Heard loud music from the top floor, went up to check out. It's Millers club in the car park and the music is so loud for the nice Sunday afternoon, went in there and it must be 150db but it is like a thousand people in there can't believe the darkness that I can walk around with my dick hanging and no one would see him even meself. I suppose this is the place to be if you're looking for drug but then again, they can feed you with dog shit and you wouldn't know so recommend stay away.

Went out of the plaza and turn left toward elevated rail track 300mtr away and make the right turn just before arrived at the elevated rail, about 200mtr and hotal travel is on the left hand side with large open space parking lot at front. Entrance to the Spa is on the left side of the hotel door. My first time here and found myself in big and dark open space like in a disco. Approach by mama within 25seconds and she quickly drag me out of there to the next well-light room with about 40 local Indo on sofas. Nice set up with seat in the dark while they are in the light up close and personal.

Check out the price and 285kfor FJ. Good price. Spot a Reni small body little white legs and miniskirt. Long hair well pass her butt and face of japanese sex star. Chose her almost without hesitation. And got lucky for second time this month

End up with another one of very best cock sucking gal ever. Very fond of balls sucking which is absolute quality and she went further and rim my butt like a candy. Felt happily violated. Then position herself to ride me but told her to turn around so get to see great view from behind and kept her there until I cum.

Value for money so tip 100k and make a note to go back again for sure.

Tips: donot stay in the dark area in the middle. Apparently under different mama. Move around, go to toilet so no one can claim you too soon. Cheers

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[QUOTE=Smoothy]I personally find it absolutely shocking that some people are paying 800k for short time with a girl in Jakarta. And 1.5 million for a chinese girl is a complete rip off (in my opinion). It seems to me that paying those prices in a place like Malioboro is just going to help to increase prices city wide. I don't think those girls are one bit better than the girls you can get at other places in town for 220k.[/QUOTE]


Yeah especially since those same 350K girls in Marioboro can be had the very next day at Travel for 285. Seriously, many of those girls are rotated every other day between those two places. Also, not sure if the same now, but it used to be those 800K girls would rotate every other day between Royal and Marioboro. The cost at Royal; 230K. I too think the high price joints are a real pisser on the kota scene. Around Kota it's the same damn girls switching around. When I go into a middle/lower priced joint I alaways find ex-Emporium, Classic, Alexis, Marioboro, and etc. girls. And when I go into one of those higer price joints I always see a bunch of ex-kota indah, TC's, Bintang Mawar, and etc. girls.

Also, I gotta say if you are gonna pay 800K for a local and she covers your dick for a BJ when you don't want to, then speak the hell up. If I dropped 800K for ST and the girl insisted on a CBJ I would swap her out in a milla second. 800K and and CBJ's! Are we in Tiajuana?

I would never ever spend than 400,000 rupiahs for local girls...

for import ? could be and depends on the target...

I'm going to Jakarta for a business trip March 25th and I've looked through the reports for the past year and I didn't see what I was looking for. I live in China so I'm used to paying $20 for ST. So, I don't want to spend much for FS. My company put me in the Mulia Hotel, so I know I can go to CJ's. I don't speak Bahasa (but I can speak Chinese) and I am white. Can anyone help with these questions:

1. I have some time in the afternoon, so I thought I might go to a mall to pick up some university girls that want to make a little extra money. Is the Atrium Mall the place to go? If so, what do I tell a taxi driver to take me there; do I just simply say "Atrium Mall" in English?

2. If I don't find anything at the mall, what do I tell the taxi driver to take me to the massage places in Kota (I understand this is where the cheapest massage places are)?

3. What time will the girls be at D's place in block M and what do I tell a taxi driver in English to take me there?

4. Will there be any hassle to bring a girl to my hotel (Mulia Hotel)?

Sorry for all the questions; just short answers would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance.

lately i've been in the mood to try out places that i've never tried before in my 2+ years here, in particular places that are rarely discussed here on isg.

the other day i wandered around the two "middle" alleys between the alley where the front entrance of stadium is, and the alley where kartika, berlian and royal mas are located.

both alleys have around a dozen mp's (although that double-counts three or four mp's that have entrances on both alleys) that appear to be near duplicates of each other: a "welcome" room where photos of the girls on duty are displayed and a small dingy bar with loud music and a couple of tvs, plus some dingy rooms upstairs that have not been renovated in 20 years.

an important difference: in kartika, berlian and royal mas, virtually all of the girls are in one central location, the downtown bar, or sitting at the front door, so it's easy to chat them up before making your choice. however, virtually all of the mp's in the two middle alleys (except for anggrek panti pijat) have their girls rep001tered all over the place, with most of the girls unseen and hidden upstairs, which makes it more difficult to choose an appropriate girl.

ended up at the tin-tin massage, which has received only one brief review on isg in the last six years. although it was after 5 p.m., the bar was empty. the two middle-aged ladies at the welcome counter said that 15 girls were on duty (all upstairs) and asked me what type of girl i wanted. so i told them that i wanted a good blow job, and they immediately recommended two girls, one indonesian, one chinese-indonesian. i picked the chinese lady, who had the obviously fake name "chin-chin."

was led upstairs to one of the dingy rooms, a minute later the chinese woman showed up. she appeared to be 33 to 35 years old, fairly cute face, but her body was overweight and her tits were shot, i.e. not someone who i'd be interested in having intercourse with. however, my gut impression was that she looked as if she'd give a good bj, so i decided to stay.

since all i wanted was a bj, i'm glad that i stayed. she commenced by asking me to lie down on my stomach, then gave me a professional-quality back and leg massage. she then started a nice "petik mangga" dick massage from behind, including getting me up on my hands and knees while she did some ar and tea-bagging. then all of a sudden she layed on her back under me, poking her head between my legs, and gave me an award-winning bj while i was on all fours - a first for me in such a position. she took all of my cum in her mouth, then stood back up, spit into a tissue, and smiled at me.

total damages were 220,000 rupiah for the room and a well-earned 50,000 rupiah tip for her. not a gfe at all, in fact i never even tried to kiss her, not even on the cheek. she spoke no english at all, except for "mister."

would i return? probably not, unless i desperately needed a bj and was in the area. although the 220,000 rupiah house fee at tin-tin is a bit cheaper than the 250,000 rupiah fee at kartika/berlian/royal mas, i don't particularly like choosing a girl from a desk-top photo. i suppose i could ask for a showing of the available girls (like they do at hotel malioboro), but i personally am more comfortable making my own choice in a more leisurely fashion.

Another dingy, dumpy place that is rarely reviewed here on ISG, other than a few reports by Bulai69 and a negative report by me a year or so ago.

This place is in Kota, the old part of Jakarta, located at the south-west corner of Fatahillah Square, where Cafe Batavia and the old Jakarta City Hall are located. Virgin is easy to find because of its bright pink awnings.

This place has the reputation for featuring many over-the-hill local masseuses who speak no English and demand unreasonably large tips, although supposedly anal is readily available here (not my thing, but Asian Rain and some other mongers here are fans) according to Bulai69's past posts.

Stopped by here at 6 p.m. yesterday. The fairly-large downstairs bar was completely empty except for two guys playing billiards, and there were 6 or 7 ladies and one mamasan sitting on two couches in the far back. As I walked towards the back, one of the girls stood up to go get a drink and I was stunned - she appeared to be 20 years old, very pretty face, long straight hair (most of it fake, I discovered), medium height and a fit, slender figure; in fact she fits Bulai69's criteria perfectly. She also spoke decent English. Hard to believe that such a treasure was working in such a dump!

This one was a no-brainer, off we went upstairs. Her name was Novi, she said she was 20, divorced with a three-year old child. A great, very nice session, starting with a sexy shower, very GFE, one of those girls who both had a great sexy body and was a nice person as well. Excellent oral skills and FS techniques, very tight pussy, hard to believe she's had a child. Only complaint was that she was very willing to do FS without a condom, luckily I was able to stop her just in time.

Total damages were 200,000 rupiah house fee plus tip, I gladly gave her a tip of 100,000 rupiah. Will I return? Yes! if Novi is available. In fact, next time Bulai69 is in town, I'll bring him to Virgin to see her.

She asked to exchange cell phone numbers, said that she supplemented her income at Virgin with visits to guys at their hotel/apartment/house. Told me her rates would be 400,000 rupiah to spend the night at my apartment, but that she always asks for 500,000 rupiah from a stranger she meets in a hotel bar at C.J.s or a similar place. I'm not surprised that she probably succeeds in getting 500,000 rupiah under those circumstances, Novi is certainly better looking than most of the girls at Tiga Puluh the last time I was there!

Went back to Jl. Faletehan after a long break as I got the opportunity to get away since there was no one at home this wekend. Earlier, I used to occasionally meet up with a GRO from the G string till she got to greedy.

Went to D's place at 1030 and hung around over a drink and watched indifferent pole dancing by few bored young things. Got approached by a one or two at the bar but not being good-looking or my type, I didn't bite. A few of the better looking girls were clinging on to young Aussies but obviously there was nothing there for an oldie like me. Was told that the wet-dancing would begin at midnight but that was too late.

Instead decided to enter Top Gun which despite the loud music was more happening with more ceweks floating around. Once again got approached by more harpies whom I turned down. Suddenly, I saw a demure looking thing in a "party" dress looking quite out of the place standing near the floor and exchanged a look with her before she disappeared. She looked a bit waifish like Audrey Hepburn and her party dress looked like from the 60s when all the others were dressed in halters, tees and jeans. When she reappeared near the pool table, I went over and introduced myself and got her a coke at the bar.

A 22 yo from Kalimantan, she said that she had been working at the Golden Boutique but was out of a job. Asked her if she was willing to come out with me and she agreed without making any mention of money. Obviously, a free-lancer and needy. So I drove her to the Hillside hotel at Fatmawati. We got there around 12pm but since it was Saturday evening the place was busy and I could only get an Exec room for 320k. Drove to the block and parked. We had to wait a bit because they were still preparing the room after the previous occupants. While I was a bit irked by this delay, what I found quite striking how naturally people here take to this kind of mongering- the staff went about its work without a look or any hint that there was anything illicit about the activity. That's what I find wonderful about Jakarta!

Anyway, once the room was ready we changed, washed and got into bed. When she took off her clothes, I saw that her breasts were a bit small and like all Indos she had used one of those lift-up bras but she had a nice slim body. Although she was a bit shy, I got a decent bbbj licking including the tea bags. I then made her lower herself onto me while I remained standing and put her down on the bed for mish and then cowboy and changed positions till we ended up in mish again and I came. After a brief break had another session and ended up in doggie. We slept for a while and then after another session, I called it a night at 5 am. We could have stayed till mid-day but I had to get home as I can't afford to take too many liberties. Gave her 600k as this according to the forum is the reasonable amount and which she gratefully put away in her purse without even checking. Dropped her at the Fatmawati because she said that she stayed nearby.

All in all a good experience, though she wasn't GFE in that sense but she was obliging and not really a hooker like the others. I would have like to have taken a pic and put it up for other mongers to see but one of my principles has been not to have any incriminating evidence around- one never knows how slip ups take place- a trace on the comp or the failure to delete a file and the shit can hit the roof. In keeping with this I pay cash and never use the credit card on any of my mongering expeditions. Also I take a cab or drive myself but never take the driver. If Elliot Spitzer had paid cash and not transferred money to the Agency, he still might have been the Governor of NY State!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Another dingy, dumpy place that is rarely reviewed here on ISG, other than a few reports by Bulai69 and a negative report by me a year or so ago.

This place is in Kota, the old part of Jakarta, located at the south-west corner of Fatahillah Square, where Cafe Batavia and the old Jakarta City Hall are located. Virgin is easy to find because of its bright pink awnings.


Stopped by here at 6 p.m. yesterday. The fairly-large downstairs bar was completely empty except for two guys playing billiards, and there were 6 or 7 ladies and one mamasan sitting on two couches in the far back. As I walked towards the back, one of the girls stood up to go get a drink and I was stunned - she appeared to be 20 years old, very pretty face, long straight hair (most of it fake, I discovered), medium height and a fit, slender figure; in fact she fits Bulai69's criteria perfectly. She also spoke decent English. Hard to believe that such a treasure was working in such a dump!

Her name was Novi, she said she was 20, divorced with a three-year old child. A great, very nice session, starting with a sexy shower, very GFE, one of those girls who both had a great sexy body and was a nice person as well. Excellent oral skills and FS techniques, very tight pussy, hard to believe she's had a child. Only complaint was that she was very willing to do FS without a condom, luckily I was able to stop her just in time.

Total damages were 200,000 rupiah house fee plus tip, I gladly gave her a tip of 100,000 rupiah. Will I return? Yes! if Novi is available. In fact, next time Bulai69 is in town, I'll bring him to Virgin to see her.

She asked to exchange cell phone numbers, said that she supplemented her income at Virgin with visits to guys at their hotel/apartment/house. Told me her rates would be 400,000 rupiah to spend the night at my apartment, but that she always asks for 500,000 rupiah from a stranger she meets in a hotel bar at C.J.s or a similar place. I'm not surprised that she probably succeeds in getting 500,000 rupiah under those circumstances, Novi is certainly better looking than most of the girls at Tiga Puluh the last time I was there![/QUOTE]

A great report MS- keep it up, in more ways than one! Also enjoyed your report on the lesser know MPs in town.

Is your wonderful find Novi there on most evenings? What kind of rooms does Virgin have? BTW the name is ironical, given the fact that most of the women are way down the hill. May be that the owner has got a (warped) sense of humour!

Good to read your report MS - it's a while since I've been to Virgin. Certainly your comments are valid, all I would add is that although the standard is, in general, very very low, I have seen some excellent young ones there.

[QUOTE=ChinaTimes]I'm going to Jakarta for a business trip March 25th and I've looked through the reports for the past year and I didn't see what I was looking for. I live in China so I'm used to paying $20 for ST. So, I don't want to spend much for FS. My company put me in the Mulia Hotel, so I know I can go to CJ's. I don't speak Bahasa (but I can speak Chinese) and I am white. Can anyone help with these questions:

1. I have some time in the afternoon, so I thought I might go to a mall to pick up some university girls that want to make a little extra money. Is the Atrium Mall the place to go? If so, what do I tell a taxi driver to take me there; do I just simply say "Atrium Mall" in English?

2. If I don't find anything at the mall, what do I tell the taxi driver to take me to the massage places in Kota (I understand this is where the cheapest massage places are)?

3. What time will the girls be at D's place in block M and what do I tell a taxi driver in English to take me there?

4. Will there be any hassle to bring a girl to my hotel (Mulia Hotel)?

Sorry for all the questions; just short answers would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

1. Yes, ask for Atrium Mall, Senen - write it down and / or ask the hotel doorman to tell the taxi driver, they might not understand your accent. Just in case - the "a" is short as in "cat", the "r" is rolled like a Scotsman and the "u" is pronouned like a Yorkshireman. They won't be "university girls" by the way!

2. as above, write down the name of some specific places

3. 10pm is probably the start. Getting there - as above

4. No.

IMPORTANT, always get your taxi driver to wait, given you are not familiar with Jakarta, I sense you will have a big problem if you don't, especially with a girl in Kota and Blok M at night

Bulai69,

Thank you for the feedback. I'll follow your advice.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]1. Yes, ask for Atrium Mall, Senen - write it down and / or ask the hotel doorman to tell the taxi driver, they might not understand your accent. Just in case - the "a" is short as in "cat", the "r" is rolled like a Scotsman and the "u" is pronouned like a Yorkshireman. They won't be "university girls" by the way!

2. as above, write down the name of some specific places

3. 10pm is probably the start. Getting there - as above

4. No.

IMPORTANT, always get your taxi driver to wait, given you are not familiar with Jakarta, I sense you will have a big problem if you don't, especially with a girl in Kota and Blok M at night[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen --
I will be going back to Jakarta in a month or so. I had a fun time at Oasis Spa last trip, but the selection was limited because I like to get it on in the morning. As an older monger, my testosterone and energy levels are highest then.

Could anyone recommend a good place with more variety [B]before noon[/B]?

thanks,
V_be

[QUOTE=Stiff in Jakarta]These higher end places exist all over town, many of them are very busy places. This seems to indicate that there are many different price ranges for same or similar products. this is simple economics at work. its no different to buying a Bintang at aphrodite vs BATS, both places are busy. I dont see why BATS being full of high paying Bintang drinkers will put the prices of Bintang up in Aphrodite. Coke in road side stall vs Coke in a decent hotel is another example. I could go on, but I am sure you can see my point in this regard.

Sorry Stiff but I'm afraid I can't agree with your comparison about fucklets and cokes. The reason we only pay 15K for a coke at a warung is because the tukang warung has virtually no overheads and you drink your coke on a hard stool, sweat with the heat and breathe in car fumes. If you go to a 5 star hotel you pay 50K for the coke because the hotel has huge overheads and is providing you with a pleasant drinking environment.

Now if you pick up a fucklet at the 5 star hotel she doesn't pay for the nice seating, AC etc, they're provided by the hotel. Her services are quite separate from the quality of the surroundings where you pick her up. A good fuck is a good fuck wherever you purchase it. And the fuck is good because of the looks, performance attitude etc that the girl provides, not because you meet her at a nice place.

If a girl gets 800K for her services when you meet her at a hotel, she's likely to think she can get a similar price when you meet her at a downmarket place. That's the reason it tends to push the prices up. But good luck to them if they can get the suckers to pay...

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Usually upstairs at around midnite on a Saturday. Sometimes on a Friday, they issue water pistols so you can squirt them and make the tee shirts see through, it usually degenerates into a semi naked show. If you want more just go into the VIP room and hang around for a while usually two or three girls will be doing a full naked show if someone has thrown 100K at them. Quality can be so so.

Enjoy.[/QUOTE]

It's true that you can see some topless and even nude dancing at the VIP room at Ds Place, but the I have to agree that the quality is "so so". When I was approached by some of the girls who offered to show all if I paid them I was tempted to say I'd rather pay them to keep it on. One or two of the girls who exposed themselves had rather nice tits or a good arse but usually with old haggard faces that were a real turn off. Not really to be recommended. A pale pale imitation of Bangkok. Jakarta's delights lie elsewhere....

The wet T shirt competition is pretty "so so" too, though one or two of the girls have good looks and personality. And it's pretty good fun.

[QUOTE=ChinaTimes]1. I have some time in the afternoon, so I thought I might go to a mall to pick up some university girls that want to make a little extra money. Is the Atrium Mall the place to go? [/QUOTE]
Plaza Semanggi maybe better. It's next to a Catholic university. Catholic & close to the Mulia. Amen.

[QUOTE=Mangga]It's true that you can see some topless and even nude dancing at the VIP room at Ds Place, but the I have to agree that the quality is "so so". When I was approached by some of the girls who offered to show all if I paid them I was tempted to say I'd rather pay them to keep it on. One or two of the girls who exposed themselves had rather nice tits or a good arse but usually with old haggard faces that were a real turn off. Not really to be recommended. A pale pale imitation of Bangkok. Jakarta's delights lie elsewhere....[/QUOTE]

I completely agree. That "vip" room is crap. You can easily find better quality for that kind of thing in many other places around town. Even Bengkel Cafe has better nude lap dancers. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in that in jakarta anyway. You can take the girls back to your room and have sex with them for christ sakes! Why spend money to have them show their body?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]

Ended up at the Tin-Tin Massage, which has received only one brief review on ISG in the last six years. Although it was after 5 p.m., the bar was empty. The two middle-aged ladies at the welcome counter said that 15 girls were on duty (all upstairs) and asked me what type of girl I wanted. So I told them that I wanted a good blow job, and they immediately recommended two girls, one Indonesian, one Chinese-Indonesian. I picked the Chinese lady, who had the obviously fake name "Chin-Chin."

Was led upstairs to one of the dingy rooms, a minute later the Chinese woman showed up. She appeared to be 33 to 35 years old, fairly cute face, but her body was overweight and her tits were shot, i.e. not someone who I'd be interested in having intercourse with. However, my gut impression was that she looked as if she'd give a good BJ, so I decided to stay.

Total damages were 220,000 rupiah for the room and a well-earned 50,000 rupiah tip for her. Not a GFE at all, in fact I never even tried to kiss her, not even on the cheek. She spoke no English at all, except for "Mister."
[/QUOTE]
Nice report Mighty Spearsman...

Tin-tin was one of my fav site in that area, ten years ago the rate around 170,000 rupiahs, but if you prefer a chinese WG who would do BBBJ and swallow our sperms...please have a try Rosalina in Bintang Mawar Cafe.

Rosalina is around 33-35 yero, local chinese from Jogjakarta (central java)...I just hope she's still there...Last time I was with her in mid 2006. Her BBBJ was average but she would swallow till last drop.

enjoy !

Point well taken. I'll give Plaza Semanggi a try.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Plaza Semanggi maybe better. It's next to a Catholic university. Catholic & close to the Mulia. Amen.[/QUOTE]

Well this is my first report, so I hope it covers what you’re looking for.
____________

Decided to venture to the 6th floor in Malawai Hotel on Friday 21st March. Got there around 17:45. Quite a few ladies available when I got there, probably 12 to 15 all up.

Not a bad selection either, seems like they have a few new ladies working there at the moment.

Had a couple of drinks and took my time looking at who was working. Saw a really nice new face, name is Rena, so had to try her out. Problem was that her English was nonresistant, pretty much like my Bahasa. Decided to take a second lady to help with the language barrier (Hehehe) and saw Irma waiving and suggesting that I should take 2 ladies. Why not I thought. A couple more drinks later and well off to a room for my massage.

The rooms have not changed much, still a bit basic, queen size bed, 1 chair and a shower over the bath.. All a bit dated, but hey, you not moving in right. Anyway 1 ½ hours later emerged a happy man.

The girls:

Rena, reportedly 20, but hard to confirm and new to the bar. Slender body and quite tall really. Small tits and tight pussy - A gem.

Massage: 7/10
BJ: N/A
C/FJ: 9/10
Overall: Very nice and is well worthy of a revisit

Irma. 22, shorter but nice figure. Good English and a regular favorite.

Massage: 7/10
BBBJ: 9/10
FJ: N/A
Overall: Always worthy of selection. Nice all rounder and a good FJ too. I also rate her 9/10 and she is normally my 1st selection.

The damage:

IDR 400k per lady, per hour inclusive of the room plus tips. This trip IDR 600k each for 1 ½ hours and IDR 100k Tip plus drinks.

Overall, well worth the visit and planning another one for tomorrow.

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Looking for a gift for that special someone?

There's a shop in the basement of Plaza Semanggi called Fantasy Wear that sells interesting underwear, nipple clamps and costumes - pseudo leather, dominatrix style, policewoman, nurse, etc. Quite cheap and good fun.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I completely agree. That "vip" room is crap. You can easily find better quality for that kind of thing in many other places around town. Even Bengkel Cafe has better nude lap dancers. I don't understand why anyone would be interested in that in jakarta anyway. You can take the girls back to your room and have sex with them for christ sakes! Why spend money to have them show their body?[/QUOTE]Smoothy,

Is there really good nude dancing elsewhere in town?

I had given up trying to find it.

[QUOTE=Mangga]Smoothy....Is there really good nude dancing elsewhere in town? I had given up trying to find it...[/QUOTE]Bengkel, Raja mas and much much more.

[QUOTE=Vahaza Be]Gentlemen --
I will be going back to Jakarta in a month or so. I had a fun time at Oasis Spa last trip, but the selection was limited because I like to get it on in the morning. As an older monger, my testosterone and energy levels are highest then.

Could anyone recommend a good place with more variety [B]before noon[/B]?

thanks,
V_be[/QUOTE]
Vahaza Be Bro...

I keep sounding any info for your brunch ! hehehe.

keep in touch brother !

I want to thank my brother mongers for all the info and PM’s that made my Jakarta trip successful. I reached Jakarta on 15th night and stayed in Sparks Hotel. I changed 100 USD at the airport and got 890,000 Rupiah , hotel does not exchange currencies. Since it was 11.30 at night I was recommended not to go to Lokasari Plaza at night as it was my first night. I then ventured in the Karaoke on the 8th floor. The wanted 1.6 Million Rupiah just for the girl to sing for me privately. I moved down to the night club on the ground floor and picked up a beautiful babe for 500,000 that gave me an excellent time. The next day I went to Lokasari plaza to change more currency and have a look at the mall. Evening I went to Travel hotel, the babes were not to my liking. I then went to BATS in Shangri-La hotel and it was around 9.00 pm hence no babes around. After a drink around 10.00 I went to CJ’s Mulia hotel . Again too early, so I went to Top Gun in Block M. I saw a lot of babes, managed to pick one that spoke ok English. She was too good charged me 300,000 including taxi. The next morning I went to Bali thru Adam Air , looking at the aircraft I was lucky I reached up to Bali . My Bali report I will post on the Bali thread. Anyway after 2 days in Bali, I heard that Adam Air in non operational due to bankruptcy and I returned by Garuda air back to Sparks hotel. Since being the last day I did some of my shopping in Lokasari Plaza and also checked out the country club. After keeping the shopping staff in the hotel I went to Oasis Spa near the hotel and got a good massage including BJ for 250,115 Rupiah. I then went to hard rock café, excellent music but no pick up babes. I returned back to the hotel and went to the sparks hotel for the last night hit. There were around 4 girls to choose from. Since the girl on the first night give me a good time I again chose her. This is where my calculation went wrong as she started acting like a ***** , wanted to sleep spent time is checking her sms and wanted addl for taxi as out of 500,000 only 150,000 is given to her. Anyway the BJ was good . The next day I went to Manga Dua to do my balance shopping, visited the monument Manas and then went to have lunch called Padang in Nana plaza. From there I went directly to the airport. I have given the snaps for developing and I will post them soon.

back in j-town again.

have found that bro guan of tropical will be going away come this june.

decided to go to tropical and try to meet bro guan. arrived today at about 2pm was told that bro guan not in, aliang on cuti (leave) and anan when to roxy. only yanto around. luckily i speak passable bahasa.

told him i want fl plus therapist after fl.

choose fl riska - a 22 yo
look - 7/10 a cute little pimplist face
boobs - 34a
gfe - 6/10
speak no english but ok w me.

once in the room make small chit-chat with whatever bahasa i can manage.

we strip and have shower to was each other. she was dry, but this is ok too.

after we clean each other i carried her to the bed. yes because i am so much taller than her. 1. 78 vs 1. 5.

while in the shower we have our forplay and thus my little brother already like flagstaff. stiff and rigid.

once in bed, she uses her mouth and tongue very well all over me including my balls and little brother. this goes on for about 15-20 minutes. at the end i was the one moaning and nearly shoot the load but control like mad.

once she realise i am near the peak, she quickly cap me and ride cowgirl. she rode me vigorously for only about 5 minutes and i cannot hold it any more and thus shoot the load.

we cuddle for a while before i pay her 200k rp plus 50k tips.

next, i chose my therapist number 14 wati. i have her before and thus we are able to know what our needs are. but today i did not take her all the way. told her i will be back later this week. she give acceptable massage or pijat in bahasa.

footnote, on tercar 66 report on sparks. the bar on the ground floor of sparks hotel should be mnb (music and bar). there should also be nude dancer after 12 midnite. yes, some of the girls will try to play up if you return to them especially if you do not speak bahasa and not a monthly or weekly regular.

yes, i use to go to mnb regularly since march last year. i stop going there as my girl have stop working as pr.

I will be transiting at Jakarta airport on the way to Bali in early June. I am scheduled to land at Jakarta around 8pm and will only depart for Bali the next morning at 9am. Since I have about 8 hours (minus travel time to and from the airport to the city) to spare, I would like to ask for some help as to where I can go to spend some pleasurable time in Jakarta instead of getting a room at the airport transit hotel.

For the 8 hrs, I would like to spend some time getting a nice massage (full treatment) and later follow by sweet service provider(s) making me a happy man. It would be great if someone can suggest to me an establishment that is open during that time zone where such services are on offer.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
normad2020

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I will be transiting at Jakarta airport on the way to Bali in early June. I am scheduled to land at Jakarta around 8pm and will only depart for Bali the next morning at 9am. Since I have about 8 hours (minus travel time to and from the airport to the city) to spare, I would like to ask for some help as to where I can go to spend some pleasurable time in Jakarta instead of getting a room at the airport transit hotel.

For the 8 hrs, I would like to spend some time getting a nice massage (full treatment) and later follow by sweet service provider(s) making me a happy man. It would be great if someone can suggest to me an establishment that is open during that time zone where such services are on offer.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
Hi...

You will be dued to arrive at 8 PM, I believe most of Spa and Bordello would close around 1.00-2.00 AM...jot all the address down and show to the cabdriver (which you prefer to monger). I suggest you to pick Blue Bird taxi.

BTW, from Airport to West JKT would take around 30 minutes until 1 hour ride...so you still have 4 hours to adventure.

I give you a clue...Mangga Besar area (most spa and bordello are located here).

Enjoy !

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I will be transiting at Jakarta airport on the way to Bali in early June. I am scheduled to land at Jakarta around 8pm and will only depart for Bali the next morning at 9am. Since I have about 8 hours (minus travel time to and from the airport to the city) to spare, I would like to ask for some help as to where I can go to spend some pleasurable time in Jakarta instead of getting a room at the airport transit hotel.

For the 8 hrs, I would like to spend some time getting a nice massage (full treatment) and later follow by sweet service provider(s) making me a happy man. It would be great if someone can suggest to me an establishment that is open during that time zone where such services are on offer.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]Bro Oyenk, be kinder lah. Mangga Besar is so big that he'll be lost as first timer. It took me nearly 6 months of my once a month trip to complete just Lokasari area.

Another clue, look for Sparks hotel. Opposite is Lokasari. There is at least 6 mongering place there. Go search for those within this forum.

Happy mongering and make your bird happy too.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]I will be transiting at Jakarta airport on the way to Bali in early June. I am scheduled to land at Jakarta around 8pm and will only depart for Bali the next morning at 9am. Since I have about 8 hours (minus travel time to and from the airport to the city) to spare, I would like to ask for some help as to where I can go to spend some pleasurable time in Jakarta instead of getting a room at the airport transit hotel.

For the 8 hrs, I would like to spend some time getting a nice massage (full treatment) and later follow by sweet service provider(s) making me a happy man. It would be great if someone can suggest to me an establishment that is open during that time zone where such services are on offer.

Thanks in advance.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]

I hit the Travel Hotel on Mangga Besar 8 a couple days ago and loved it. The sexiest women I've seen so far in Indonesia were sitting on those 3 couches with the spotlight showcasing their beauty. Unfortunately for me, the mama picked a girl with a hot body and a bad attitude. She gave me a dirty look the whole time I was with her. Had I learned a little Bahasa Indonesia before traveling, I probably would have sensed her bad attituted. The room accomodations for showering and fucking were the best I've experienced in Indonesia. For the small price of 285 kRp + tip you get to have a lot of fun.

Also based on reports from this board, I went to Kartika. I got off the Mangga Besar exit on the TransJakarta bus. It took me about 30 minutes of walking around to find the place. From my notes on the forum, all I had were the cross streets. Now I have GPS coordinates accruate to within +/- 15 feet! It's located just south of Manga Besar, on the west side of the main north/south street. At the end of the the small street is a big sign that says "Karika".

At Kartika, I picked up a sweet girl based on her bubbly smile and her cute wiggle as I was deciding on which chick to pick. Picking my own girl was a good choice. I had a good feeling that she would be a good service provider. That she was. Her name is Cindy. She says she works everyday. She gave me a 30 minute soapy massage and worked damm hard at it. It was a great feeling, especially after walking around in the heat trying to find it. Then we had 30 minutes of good sex. She came pretty hard too; I must say. Overall a wonderful experience for 250 kRp + tip.

wt

Thanks brother. I will scan the forum for some recommended places at Mangga Besar area and proceed from there.

Cheers
normad2020



[QUOTE=Oyenk]Hi...

You will be dued to arrive at 8 PM, I believe most of Spa and Bordello would close around 1.00-2.00 AM...jot all the address down and show to the cabdriver (which you prefer to monger). I suggest you to pick Blue Bird taxi.

BTW, from Airport to West JKT would take around 30 minutes until 1 hour ride...so you still have 4 hours to adventure.

I give you a clue...Mangga Besar area (most spa and bordello are located here).

Enjoy ![/QUOTE]

The Travel Hotel sounds interesting. I hope I have a chance to try but given the limited time, I will have to pick very carefully to have a good time before I hit Bali.

Will post later.

Cheers
normad2020



[QUOTE=Wtboatr]I hit the Travel Hotel on Mangga Besar 8 a couple days ago and loved it. The sexiest women I've seen so far in Indonesia were sitting on those 3 couches with the spotlight showcasing their beauty. Unfortunately for me, the mama picked a girl with a hot body and a bad attitude. She gave me a dirty look the whole time I was with her. Had I learned a little Bahasa Indonesia before traveling, I probably would have sensed her bad attituted. The room accomodations for showering and fucking were the best I've experienced in Indonesia. For the small price of 285 kRp + tip you get to have a lot of fun.

Also based on reports from this board, I went to Kartika. I got off the Mangga Besar exit on the TransJakarta bus. It took me about 30 minutes of walking around to find the place. From my notes on the forum, all I had were the cross streets. Now I have GPS coordinates accruate to within +/- 15 feet! It's located just south of Manga Besar, on the west side of the main north/south street. At the end of the the small street is a big sign that says "Karika".

At Kartika, I picked up a sweet girl based on her bubbly smile and her cute wiggle as I was deciding on which chick to pick. Picking my own girl was a good choice. I had a good feeling that she would be a good service provider. That she was. Her name is Cindy. She says she works everyday. She gave me a 30 minute soapy massage and worked damm hard at it. It was a great feeling, especially after walking around in the heat trying to find it. Then we had 30 minutes of good sex. She came pretty hard too; I must say. Overall a wonderful experience for 250 kRp + tip.

wt[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wtboatr]Also based on reports from this board, I went to Kartika. I got off the Mangga Besar exit on the TransJakarta bus. It took me about 30 minutes of walking around to find the place. From my notes on the forum, all I had were the cross streets. Now I have GPS coordinates accruate to within +/- 15 feet! It's located just south of Manga Besar, on the west side of the main north/south street. At the end of the the small street is a big sign that says "Karika".

wt[/QUOTE]
Nice encounter report,
BTW Hayam Wuruk area/ Kartika, Tin-tin, Serba-Sehat etc are officially closed around 10.00 PM.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]Thanks brother. I will scan the forum for some recommended places at Mangga Besar area and proceed from there.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
You're welcome...

Here I give you other clue: Rasa Sayang bordello, Bintang Mawar Cafe bordello, Travel, Madonna Club, Kartika and her sisters hehehe (see my post below), Tiara Ceria and others.

If you wish to stay up with a gal...I suggest you to stay in Hotel Bintang Indah - Jl. Lodan (see in thread info)...if you check-in transit time (6 hours) after midnight (1.00 AM)...you may stay until 12.00 AM. That would be 11 hours to stay. That's the happy hour from the hotel BI...and I hope this still valid...at least you may ask first (the resepsionist speak good english).

and don't forget you report brother !

enjoy !

Well if you want to find out the skinny on a particular area of knocking shops where else would you go but to the "search" function of the world's premier mongering website? So I typed in 'Kali Jodoh' (sp?) in the hope of finding out more about the place so regularly touted by my ojek driver, lot's of lovely ceweks and only 100k a pop, who could ask for more? But of the aforementioned place there is not a sliver of info in all of ISG (Ithink).

I went anyway, wow! BATS it ain't. I seem to recall a post from a few years back which described some dedicated scribe's venture on to the railway yards for a bit of cheap how's your father, well this wasn't quite there but I'm guessing it was only one step up. It makes the Club in Blok M look like Dragonfly.

So come on gentlemen, who's going to be the first to admit to going to Kali Jodoh? Surely someone's done it?

[QUOTE=Dorman]So come on gentlemen, who's going to be the first to admit to going to Kali Jodoh? Surely someone's done it?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes I have fun near the railway tracks, but it's 50k a pop only.
What kind of classy, upscale places do you want me to go? :D

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Dorman]Well if you want to find out the skinny on a particular area of knocking shops where else would you go but to the "search" function of the world's premier mongering website? So I typed in 'Kali Jodoh' (sp?)..[/QUOTE]
There's a good FR about it in the 2002-2006 reports section: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=489329#post489329[/url].

Always has been high on the wish list, but 'somehow' never made it.. [url]http://wikimapia.org/1929754/[/url] has a map of the area.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Looking for a gift for that special someone?

There's a shop in the basement of Plaza Semanggi called Fantasy Wear that sells interesting underwear, nipple clamps and costumes - pseudo leather, dominatrix style, policewoman, nurse, etc. Quite cheap and good fun.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, didn't know.. Policewoman, sounds delightful.

The Semanggi website is on a tantalizing slow server, it's going like a dial-up connection. I looked for Fantasy wear but it pops up as kids wear (?).. probably finds a match on "wear" only, cheers.
[url]http://www.theplazasemanggi.com/search_result.php?txtSearch=fantasy+wear[/url]

Thanks Joel, I did get the spelling wrong (right?) but even so I'm surprised the search function didn't bring it up. That report is a fair and accurate summary of the place as I saw it. Anyone else been?

Given the numerous pleasures that can be found in Jakarta for which a short 8 hours will not do justice, I have decided to stay a little longer on my return trip from Bali.

My secretary has suggested that she booked me into Batavia Hotel to experience staying in an old era building and do some sightseeing & shopping. I was wondering whether that hotel is near the "hot spot" such as Travel, Country, etc?

Your advice brother is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
normad2020


[QUOTE=Oyenk]You're welcome...

Here I give you other clue: Rasa Sayang bordello, Bintang Mawar Cafe bordello, Travel, Madonna Club, Kartika and her sisters hehehe (see my post below), Tiara Ceria and others.

If you wish to stay up with a gal...I suggest you to stay in Hotel Bintang Indah - Jl. Lodan (see in thread info)...if you check-in transit time (6 hours) after midnight (1.00 AM)...you may stay until 12.00 AM. That would be 11 hours to stay. That's the happy hour from the hotel BI...and I hope this still valid...at least you may ask first (the resepsionist speak good english).

and don't forget you report brother !

enjoy ![/QUOTE]

Returned to Jakarta recently after having been away for more than five years. That was stupid to stay away that long. My plans were to frequent Lokisari plaza, the panti pijat on Hayum Wuruk, Top Gun and Dee's Place and perhaps some of the newer massage places that are mentioned here. But plans change. On the flight over from Hong Kong, I met a young Indonesian girl who works in HK who was returning to Jakarta to do some modeling. Before you know it, she was sitting next to me on the plane for the final 2 hours of my flight, and before you know it, she was in my taxi with me on the way to Hotel Ambhara, and. Before you know it, we had both showered and were making passionate love in bed together. She is a total non-pro, and I have to really take it easy with her cuz she had not made love for more than 4 years. I really prefer passionate GF sessions like this. She was 25 and just stunning. She was not the stereotypical girl who goes off to work in HK. After spending the night together, she had to leave for a few days to do some filming. But she came back a few days later before she returned to HK.

In between the times that I saw her, I met a girl who I had met online 3 years ago. She had been in a faithful relationship with a Brit, but had recently broken up. She came up from Bandung and stayed with me for 4 days and nights. She is a little dark-skinned, as she loves to go surfing in Bali and in her hometown in West Java. Gorgeous all natural 34C and firm. Set a personal record by making love 8 times in the first 24 hour period with unbelievable BBBJ. At times, I was missing the variety one gets from going to Top Gun and other places, but it was replaced by a GF experience in every sense of the word with a young, educated 22 yr old who you wud never meet in a Blok M bar or massage place.

I won't give any names or phone numbers. I just post this to show the variety of experiences available in Jakarta. I like the passion of a true GF experience, and it it easily available. Also, while I wouldn't think of paying the girls for anything that we did, I certainly took care of them by taking them shopping and giving them some funds as we departed to do more shopping for an outfit for the next time we meet, etc. I think my approach winds up costing the same amount as paying the working girls, so that is not my motivation. Anyways. I will share the second part of my sexperiences soon in a follow up report.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]
My secretary has suggested that she booked me into Batavia Hotel

Your advice brother is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]
Was that Omni Batavia Hotel ?

I heard it was haunted !

many local mongers have experienced in this hotel...sorry I am not trying to make you fear...I heard many rumours that this hotel is haunted.

I recommend Hotel Mercure Rekso in Hayam Wuruk - West Jakarta, as many senior member in this thread also give recommendation to that hotel...and it is very closed to all hot spot in Mangga Besar.

cheers.

[QUOTE=Normad2020]Given the numerous pleasures that can be found in Jakarta for which a short 8 hours will not do justice, I have decided to stay a little longer on my return trip from Bali.

My secretary has suggested that she booked me into Batavia Hotel to experience staying in an old era building and do some sightseeing & shopping. I was wondering whether that hotel is near the "hot spot" such as Travel, Country, etc?

Your advice brother is greatly appreciated.

Cheers
normad2020[/QUOTE]I agree about the Hotel Ibis nearer to all the attractions. Not so sure about Batavia having ghost. Hahaha

Visited fortune recently with novi, #23. Nice body, short, but good natured. Pretty good massage. However, wants a lot of money for her ++ services, and I 'm not very good at negotiation once interested!

Thanks for the warning brother.

Will get my secretary to confirm Mercure Rekso immediately !!!

I would not want to come to a point where I am in the middle of "banging" my female companion for the night and a "presence" presents itself in between me and my female companion. That would be a NIGHTMARE for which I do not think I will recover for a long while.

I am into pleasure and fun in Jakarta and does not wish to join the ghostbuster's team....:-)

Cheers
normad2020


[QUOTE=Oyenk]Was that Omni Batavia Hotel ?

I heard it was haunted !

many local mongers have experienced in this hotel...sorry I am not trying to make you fear...I heard many rumours that this hotel is haunted.

I recommend Hotel Mercure Rekso in Hayam Wuruk - West Jakarta, as many senior member in this thread also give recommendation to that hotel...and it is very closed to all hot spot in Mangga Besar.

cheers.[/QUOTE]

My 2nd visit to Jakarta this time staying at the Sultan. Wanted to find something close to so as to avoid the traffic and hassles. Anyway whilst I researched the forum and carefully wrote down some notes with addresses etc and went to the lobby and hailed a taksi. Talked the drive who said he knew of a place 15-20 minutes away.

Not sure of the name of the place but was located in a residential area where the mamasan (indo Chinese) greets and starts to organise the girls (of the 6 I got to look at 2 where extremely beautiful 2 where acceptable and the other 2 definitely not my type). Whilst talking to her I asked about the price for a short time and was told 3 juta. Whilst I can speak Indonesian but not fluently yet proceeded to try and negotiate and was told that this was an executive place and it is the normal price. So politely told her sorry the price was very expensive for a ST (3-4hours).

Back again to the cab who I had asked to wait (what a good idea until you find something you are satisfied alleviates the problem of finding another one. And he then took me to Jl Taman Sari where there went to meant to be lots of ceweks.

Walked into a dinghy place sat down whilst the papasan tried to chase up the girls. Managed to get 3 of which it was a fee of Rp 500, 000 for 2 hours or 1 juta for 2 ceweks for 2 hours. Unfortunately the premises did not make fee that comfortable and the 3 ceweks were an average of 6-7/10 so gave it a pass and proceeded to the Alexis.

Everything I have read about it is pretty good and it certainly lived up to its name.

As you go in the door and approach the elevator the guy comes up and offers to take to the 5th floor for the international cuisine but gave a miss needed the local delicacy only. So proceeded to the 7th floor. Once inside you get a wrist band (electronic) to your locker and also as report is used to total your bill at the end.

Changed in the changing room come walk way come. And then you can either go for a spa or into the lounge to see the ceweks or drink.

Standing room only at 10: 30 so got on with and say the mamasan and she asks with traditional or plus plus (different rooms used – activities carefully segregated.

The girls line you around 12-15 to choose from, price Rp800, 000 for ST (1 hour). Picked no 218 who was a young lass from Bandung apparently 18 but probably 22 still long hair and small breasts (which I like) possibly 32B and around 5’2".

Lead away down the stairs to a private room where shower together small talk sensual massage with oil a great tongue wash all over and great BBBJ and FS (condom provided).

Room was well kept with intimate lighting and large mirror very clean toilets and showers plus fresh towels. She is very enthusiastic (does not speak much English) but listens to directions and tries to ensure that you are completely satisfied (my type of girl).

She only works there Monday through Thursday between 2PM and 1AM (sometimes till 3AM)

On settling the bill it seems that the cover charge of Rp120, 000 is discounted if you order a cewek so total cost Rp842, 000 (includes tax) and yes they have a sense of humour as your bill is recorded as Sashimi L-xxx.

Definitely recommended for those who are new to Jakarta and do not want to spend a lot of time searching around.

Thanks to all who have posted reports on this place.

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[quote=member #3088]visited fortune recently with novi, #23. nice body, short, but good natured. pretty good massage. however, wants a lot of money for her ++ services, and i 'm not very good at negotiation once interested![/quote]
comfort group has 4 branches, why only tried fortune ? in thread info i have told that fortune has unreasonable tip for fuckjob !

have a try in comfort mangga besar , comfort latumenten...tip for fj around 200,000 - 250,000 rupiahs (excluded room). and do not hesitate to ask the gro about therapists who provide plus-plus service...

cheers.

Having now read the 2006 archieved report, this sounds like a likely spot for a day-time mongerer to investigate. I have limited bahasa but can make myself understood so will check this place out for daytime action and report accordingly.

Fieldy

When with my local friends to have dinner in Kelapa Gading. After dinner both of us decided to go to MTR2.

Once we enter the door was greeted with very loud music. The light was also quite dim thus cannot see very well and could not discuss as cannot hear each other.

The mamasans and papasans swam us with a few girls each.

I choose one called Riska who claim to be 20 yo from Cirampong. She is fairer than most of the girls.

Once in the room, we strip each other and when into the shower. Well she proceed to clean me while I clean her.

She have a cute face but her boobs is small (32A) but firm and young.

After cleaning we dry up and proceed onto the bed.

Though young she uses her mouth expertly all over me. Really shiok.

As I was tired after a few days of working long hours, was not able to keep going for long. Once hard on, I asked her to ride me but with her back toward me.

She did that very well and while she ride me I was able to squeeze her breast with both my hands from the back and also kiss her behind her ears.

After a few very vigourous minutes I shoot off my load. We both slam onto the bed hugging each other. End up quite happy.

Damage - 450K rp (a little expensive)

So my advise just go for the normal girls who also provide just as good services.

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Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.[/QUOTE]Can't agree with you more, and it only effect people in Indonesia not us overseas. Unless you are in Indo?

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?[/quote]One of the local boards has already removed adult content in an effort to prevent blocking. Kind of silly; what's the point of an adult site with no useful information? Anyway, if you read the reports on proxy servers, it is clear that various countries already block this site. I expect the government of Indonesia to try, and since it really isn't that difficult, they will probably succeed. However, it ought not to be that hard to get around the blockage using tips in the proxy server reports.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.[/QUOTE]
I heard 25 adult website are listed, not sure about ours...

MrBill1963,

Pornography is covered under 2 bills. The one the government just approved actually governs electronic transaction. The other bill is Rencana Undang Undang Anti Pornografi dan Pornoaksi.

Most of the photos found in this site are considered porn. Pornography is defined as still and moving pictures. Animation, graphic, painting and text are considered product of imagination.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.[/QUOTE]

Well, I guess if the Jakarta forums are dead, we'll know that everyone is blocked.

I wonder if you can use some sort of portal like they do in parts of the Middle East and China, if they do block it?

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.[/QUOTE]

They seem to have started already. All the indo sites in bahasa I know of that had pictures of indo girls have already either been blocked or shifted their format to not include any pictures or discussions about sex now. This has just happened in the past few days. I was wondering what was going on. I guess that explains it.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Well, I guess if the Jakarta forums are dead, we'll know that everyone is blocked.

I wonder if you can use some sort of portal like they do in parts of the Middle East and China, if they do block it?[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly, it seems if you use an anonymous proxy server from outside Indonesia that its almost impossible for them to block whatever this proxy server dishes you you. This becomes a cat and mouse game as if they block the IP address for the proxy server you need to keep switching. It's a waste of time for the government to waste resources on such things when there are so many useful things they could do to improve the country.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]There's a good FR about it in the 2002-2006 reports section: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=489329#post489329[/url].

Always has been high on the wish list, but 'somehow' never made it.. [url]http://wikimapia.org/1929754/[/url] has a map of the area.[/QUOTE]
Thanks to Joel for recommending the link to this long report on Kali Jodo from July 2006.

I wrote two or three reports on this area in Sept. 2007, as I visited four of the places there that were open during the daytime during the fasting month of Ramadan. I also posted a photo of the bridge that I walked on over the creek/open sewer to get to these places.

This is definitely the lower end of the mongering spectrum and is not for the faint of heart, but it is worth the effort for anyone who is adventurous (and it definitely helps to speak some bahasa Indonesian). I found a couple of decent girls here.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]With recent passage of internet porn law, I would not be surprised to see this site blocked by the Indonesian authorities soon. Those resident in Indonesia might do well to have a look at the thread on proxy servers in this forum, including a useful post by Asian Rain.[/QUOTE]
I feel that the above post is very important, so I've copied it from the "General Info" section of ISG.

There's a link to "Anonymous Proxy Servers" right on the home page of ISG. Although I've probably visited the ISG web site (and its predecessor WSG.org) over 3,000 times since the late 1990s, I don't ever recall seeing that link before today, but that's probably because I was not looking for it before.

And as a resident of Indonesia for over 2 years now, I have to agree with MrBill1963 - there are far more important things than pornography for the Indonesian government to worry about, such as improving the crappy education system, the even worse health care system, corruption, pollution, deforestation, flooding, traffic jams, the 30 per cent unemployment rate, the rising price of staple items such as rice, cooking oil, kerosene, etc....the list goes on and on.

However, there's a general election next year, so politics comes first. Sad.

You should know better than to recommend this place or even post about it. It's an illegal underground gambling den for locals indonesians and things can get ugly there. There are often huge brawls between different indonesian tribes.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Thanks to Joel for recommending the link to this long report on Kali Jodo from July 2006.

I wrote two or three reports on this area in Sept. 2007, as I visited four of the places there that were open during the daytime during the fasting month of Ramadan. I also posted a photo of the bridge that I walked on over the creek/open sewer to get to these places.

This is definitely the lower end of the mongering spectrum and is not for the faint of heart, but it is worth the effort for anyone who is adventurous (and it definitely helps to speak some bahasa Indonesian). I found a couple of decent girls here.[/QUOTE]

These points are from my personal point of view


1. I found shopping cheaper in Lokasari Plaza than in Managa dua.
2. Bargain and start with 60% of the price quoted.
3. Hotel thru local tour operator can give you cheaper rates than the Hotel directly or thru overseas tour operators.
4. Don't worry about blocked sites. UAE has blocked sites past so many year, yet Dubai forum is active as Indo forum.

[QUOTE=Tercar 66]
4. Don't worry about blocked sites. UAE has blocked sites past so many year, yet Dubai forum is active as Indo forum.[/QUOTE]
Indeed, the UAE thread is alive and well, however a proxy must be used, in order to access the site.

Just in case the lovely government of Indonesia blocks this site for access while in the country, you can try this proxy to bypass.
[url]https://proxify.com[/url].
Do not forget the "s".

Good luck.

Went to BLOK for the first time to check out availability of the freebies.

First went to a Bar called MY Bar (Palatehan 1 St. No. 16 Melawai Village, Kebayoran Baru) at around 10:30 surprising it was fairly busy with lost of ceweks inside , after ordering drink it did not take long for a few of them to come up and introduce themselves. The first few were not really what I was looking for. I guess she was the Mamasan as an older lady came over and chatted for a while and asked if I wanted company and asked what I was looking for. She quickly pointed a few out. When asked her about the hours open she said from 8pm until 5am in the morning. most girls in the place from 11 pm.

As still early decided to check a couple of other places out recommended by friends who have frequently been to Jakarta and went to Topgun, just across the street. Whilst very nice inside and some wonderfully freelance ceweks dancing, for my liking the ceweks were not as forthcoming in this bar. Getting quite late by now and being tired went back to My Bar and it was twice as full as when I left it 1 1/2 hour previously.

When in minutes the mamasan was back with a big smile and quickly point some very lovely ceweks out and I had one on my arms and chatting like we had known each other for awhile.

Back at the hotel a little small talk (no compensation discussed) she works for a telephone company selling ponsel need to be at work a 8 and so had to leave by 6:30 Showered together lovely massage BJ etc.

Total cost Rp240,000 including taxi money (all she wanted).

Definitely have to frequent this street again and check out the other bars in fact will probably go back tonight.

[QUOTE=Wtboatr]....Also based on reports from this board, I went to Kartika. I got off the Mangga Besar exit on the TransJakarta bus. It took me about 30 minutes of walking around to find the place. From my notes on the forum, all I had were the cross streets. Now I have GPS coordinates accruate to within +/- 15 feet! It's located just south of Manga Besar, on the west side of the main north/south street. At the end of the the small street is a big sign that says "Karika".

At Kartika, I picked up a sweet girl based on her bubbly smile and her cute wiggle as I was deciding on which chick to pick. Picking my own girl was a good choice. I had a good feeling that she would be a good service provider. That she was. Her name is Cindy. She says she works everyday. She gave me a 30 minute soapy massage and worked damm hard at it. It was a great feeling, especially after walking around in the heat trying to find it. Then we had 30 minutes of good sex. She came pretty hard too; I must say. Overall a wonderful experience for 250 kRp + tip.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry to read that it took you so long to find Kartika. The easiest landmark is that it's in the alley next to the Suisse bakery, three alleys up from the Stadium (known by every taxi driver in town).

However, I'm happy to read that you discovered Cindy, my current #1 choice at Kartika (I posted about her a couple of months ago). Cute face, decent body, but the best part about her is her great attitude and high level of service, not burnt out like some of the other girls there. She's gained around 3 kilos weight in the last 4 months, but all of that went into improving her figure (tits and thighs).

[QUOTE=Peter 9958]Went to BLOK for the first time to check out availability of the freebies.

Total cost Rp240,000 including taxi money (all she wanted).

Definitely have to frequent this street again and check out the other bars in fact will probably go back tonight.[/QUOTE]
Just plain ole curious - but how come you'd go to Blok M to check out for FREEBIES?
And curious to know if indeed such a rare species does exist there?
SEAJ

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Just plain ole curious - but how come you'd go to Blok M to check out for FREEBIES? [/QUOTE]

I also found that comment to be a joke. Anyone looking for a "freebie" should be looking almost anywhere other than Blok M. Blok M basically only has prostitutes. Any girl who was not a protitute wouldn't be caught dead on Blok M unless you are talking about one of the wait staff of the local bars.

I'm looking forward to the next report of the search for freebies at Malioboro and the Pan J brothels... LOL!

[QUOTE=Smoothy]I also found that comment to be a joke. Anyone looking for a "freebie" should be looking almost anywhere other than Blok M. Blok M basically only has prostitutes. Any girl who was not a protitute wouldn't be caught dead on Blok M unless you are talking about one of the wait staff of the local bars.[/quote]Smoothy,

That is not true you can score freebie at blok M if you put some time into it ,there are many girl at the mall you can score you will suprise how easy it is to meet freebie there just work the mall during the day and the bar at night .

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Smoothy,

That is not true you can score freebie at blok M if you put some time into it ,there are many girl at the mall you can score you will suprise how easy it is to meet freebie there just work the mall during the day and the bar at night .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]There are quite a few girls that hang out in and around Block M area that are freebies but not to be mistaken them are not virgin or pure by any mean, they had an BULE boyfriend before or a is/was a mistress or something like that.

If you expecting to find a new girl on the block, FORGET IT.

At best they are looking for a new rich boyfriend.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Smoothy,

That is not true you can score freebie at blok M if you put some time into it ,there are many girl at the mall you can score you will suprise how easy it is to meet freebie there just work the mall during the day and the bar at night .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]


I have to agree with Smoothy. Peter 9958 was reporting about his attempt to find a freebie in jalan Faletehan in the evening. Not impossible, but not very likely.

Had a extra-ordinary experience, the kind that you read of in Penthouse Letters. Although I am not sure whether this should be on the Jakarta thread or elsewhere, I guess its Ok to place it here, since the adventure began in Jakarta- Stasiun Gambir.

Recently, I took the night-train Bromo Angrek to Surabaya. A woman around 40 yo was in the seat next to me. A couple of times she reached out for things putting her hands on my thighs. I wasn't quite sure whether this was an invitation but once the blankets were distributed I covered myself with mine and while pretending to be asleep "accidentally" touched her thighs/bum a couple of times but there wasn't any positive response from her and I didn't want to risk her raising a row.

But she was extremely fidgety so I asked her what the matter was and she replied that it was 'dingin sekali' and that she was cold. so I offered her my blanket which she refused. So I jokingly asked if she wanted 'pijit' and offered to massage her. To my surprise she instantly agreed and after a few cursory massage strokes of her arms, I started kneading her thighs below the blankets supplied and, as she did not object, soon moved to her crotch. It was very difficult to stroke the crotch through the thick denim of her jeans and I soon got her to unbutton the waist-band and plunged my hand under the elastic band into her panties. Since the lights were on it was quite difficult but under the cover of the blanket I was able to stroke her clit and bring her to an orgasm. She couldn't return the favour as it would have been too obvious and nor did I want to be rewarded for my good work with just a hand job!

Although I had n't intended to stop in Surabaya but to go on to Bali, I arranged to check into a hotel where she joined me later. She had a decent body despite having produced 2 kids and we had a long afternoon session. But although I had thought it as a freebie and a return for a favour, in the evening when she had to leave for home she, surprise surprise, asked me for taxi-money! Ah well, one lives and one learns. But anyway that freed me of any guilt and despite her insistence, I refused to give her my hp number though she was keen that we get together when she next came to Jakarta.

After a long break, I recently went back to Kartika as I had been missing the soapy massages and felt like having one that evening. On the way down the alley I was waylaid by one of the ladies from Royal Mas and walked through that place to discover that it was only for plain(?) "massage" and didn't give the famous soapy body-to-body ones that Kartika and Berlian provide. So walked on to Kartika

It was around 9 pm when I entered the place and asked for Cindy whose services have been praised in the reports on this thread, I was told that she was not available as she did the morning(?) shift- I thought the place did n't open till mid-day. Anyway, it was difficult to make a choice and nor did the guy at the counter help. So I chose Murni because she appeared to have larger breasts. Although she was nearer thirty and admitted to having a child, her breasts although a bit drooping did not dissappoint. However, her service was a quite mechanical and she tried to hurry things up. She did the body-to-body massage with her breasts very vigorously and rather than sensuously, the way it should be done and the way the late-lamented Cynthia did. She also kept asking if I wanted to enter her as if I was a newbie and the massage didn't include full service. She was also reluctant to do even the tea-bags and behaved as if I was asking for AR.

Anyway after the massage, I entered her by making her lower herself on my prick and we proceeded with the cow-girl position while I played with her clit. After 10 mins she moaned and claimed that she had come and shortly afterwards I entered he doggie style and came myself.

I ended up by paying her 300k (250+ tip) and she was quite pissed and expected 100k as tip. But given her service and attitude I thought that was enough.I had paid 100k to Cynthia as tip because of the excellent service that she had given. I don't think I'll go back to Kartika unless I find someone who provides a level of services like Cynthia. Any suggestions or recommendations?

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]Had a extra-ordinary experience, the kind that you read of in Penthouse Letters. Although I am not sure whether this should be on the Jakarta thread or elsewhere, I guess its Ok to place it here, since the adventure began in Jakarta- Stasiun Gambir.

Recently, I took the night-train Bromo Angrek to Surabaya. A woman around 40 yo was in the seat next to me. A couple of times she reached out for things putting her hands on my thighs. I wasn't quite sure whether this was an invitation but once the blankets were distributed I covered myself with mine and while pretending to be asleep "accidentally" touched her thighs/bum a couple of times but there wasn't any positive response from her and I didn't want to risk her raising a row.

But she was extremely fidgety so I asked her what the matter was and she replied that it was 'dingin sekali' and that she was cold. so I offered her my blanket which she refused. So I jokingly asked if she wanted 'pijit' and offered to massage her. To my surprise she instantly agreed and after a few cursory massage strokes of her arms, I started kneading her thighs below the blankets supplied and, as she did not object, soon moved to her crotch. It was very difficult to stroke the crotch through the thick denim of her jeans and I soon got her to unbutton the waist-band and plunged my hand under the elastic band into her panties. Since the lights were on it was quite difficult but under the cover of the blanket I was able to stroke her clit and bring her to an orgasm. She couldn't return the favour as it would have been too obvious and nor did I want to be rewarded for my good work with just a hand job!

Although I had n't intended to stop in Surabaya but to go on to Bali, I arranged to check into a hotel where she joined me later. She had a decent body despite having produced 2 kids and we had a long afternoon session. But although I had thought it as a freebie and a return for a favour, in the evening when she had to leave for home she, surprise surprise, asked me for taxi-money! Ah well, one lives and one learns. But anyway that freed me of any guilt and despite her insistence, I refused to give her my hp number though she was keen that we get together when she next came to Jakarta.[/QUOTE]

Depends on whether it was money for a taxi or "taxi money". :)

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Not sure if everyone has been following the media reports about the Indonesian governments plans to block all access to pornographic sites starting April 1st. I wouldn't consider this site pornographic but some of the government zealots might. So the million dollar question is will this site hit the blocked list?

Or does anyone think the Indonesian government is actually capable of getting their act together and doing this? If they spent as much effort on repairing the roads, tackling KKN and other more meaningful things this place would actually improve.[/QUOTE]

Did you really think that passing a law in Indonesia would actually mean that something would happen? Hahaha... There are thousands of laws and regulations on the books in Indonesia, about repairing the roads, tackling KKN, you name it. If they were all implemented Indonesia would have no poverty, no corruption etc etc, but it would be a cross between George Orwell's 1984 and the Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Actually that stupid bill on porno and pornoaksi has now been changed to take out all the bits about pornoaksi that would have made every cewek wear a jilbab. But the changed bill is still stuck in the parliament and will probably never see the light of day. Certainly not before the elections next year.

Laws shmaws....forget about it...

[QUOTE=Mangga]Did you really think that passing a law in Indonesia would actually mean that something would happen? Hahaha... There are thousands of laws and regulations on the books in Indonesia, about repairing the roads, tackling KKN, you name it. If they were all implemented Indonesia would have no poverty, no corruption etc etc, but it would be a cross between George Orwell's 1984 and the Afghanistan under the Taliban.

Actually that stupid bill on porno and pornoaksi has now been changed to take out all the bits about pornoaksi that would have made every cewek wear a jilbab. But the changed bill is still stuck in the parliament and will probably never see the light of day. Certainly not before the elections next year.

Laws shmaws....forget about it...[/QUOTE]Forget if the parliament passes the law, I don't believe the institutions involved are smart enough to stop someone from accessing these sorts of sites if they are determined. Sure if they could get the ISP's to block certain sites it would stop the average user with a 3rd grade education but anyone with any sense of how the internet works would easily circumvent this control.

So where is the law on the books about repairing the roads? Surely you jest.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]After a long break, I recently went back to Kartika as I had been missing the soapy massages and felt like having one that evening. On the way down the alley I was waylaid by one of the ladies from Royal Mas and walked through that place to discover that it was only for plain(?) "massage" and didn't give the famous soapy body-to-body ones that Kartika and Berlian provide. So walked on to Kartika

It was around 9 pm when I entered the place and asked for Cindy whose services have been praised in the reports on this thread, I was told that she was not available as she did the morning(?) shift- I thought the place did n't open till mid-day. Anyway, it was difficult to make a choice and nor did the guy at the counter help. So I chose Murni because she appeared to have larger breasts. Although she was nearer thirty and admitted to having a child, her breasts although a bit drooping did not dissappoint. However, her service was a quite mechanical and she tried to hurry things up. She did the body-to-body massage with her breasts very vigorously and rather than sensuously, the way it should be done and the way the late-lamented Cynthia did. She also kept asking if I wanted to enter her as if I was a newbie and the massage didn't include full service. She was also reluctant to do even the tea-bags and behaved as if I was asking for AR.

Anyway after the massage, I entered her by making her lower herself on my prick and we proceeded with the cow-girl position while I played with her clit. After 10 mins she moaned and claimed that she had come and shortly afterwards I entered her doggie style and came myself.

I ended up by paying her 300k (250+ tip) and she was quite pissed and expected 100k as tip. But given her service and attitude I thought that was enough.I had paid 100k to Cynthia as tip because of the excellent service that she had given. I don't think I'll go back to Kartika unless I find someone who provides a level of services like Cynthia. Any suggestions or recommendations?[/QUOTE]
I don't know who Murni is, but I'm sorry to read of the poor service you received.

If Cindy is not available the next time you go to Kartika, I suggest you ask for Rista (pronounced "Krista"), #115, age 25, cute face, very short. She is small-breasted so her body-to-body massage cannot possibly be as good as the late Cynthia, but she provides an excellent level of service with outstanding oral skills.

I first had a session with Rista in August 2004 (when she was 22) and found her to have one of the tightest pussies I've ever run across anywhere, even though she had been working there since 2002. Although she then took time off from work to give birth in 2006, since she returned to work in April 2007 she still has a very tight pussy and excellent muscle control.

Rista's also a very nice person, and incidentally comes from the same small "kampung" village that Cynthia came from. She also speaks some English, always a plus. I wrote a detailed post on her on June 13, 2007.

Regarding Royal Mas, I received a soapy body-to-body massage there in early July 2007 (and posted a report about it on July 10th, 2007), but only a few of the girls working there know how to do it. Maybe those girls were all off-duty the day you visited there. In any case, the soapy massage that I received there was nothing special, and since Kartika is 20 meters away, I never saw the point in returning to Royal Mas for a soapy massage. I do visit Royal Mas regularly as I like one of the younger (legal age!) girls who started working there a few months ago, but she does not provide any massage services of any sort, just a GFE.

I've been with her in mid 2006, this morning I found this PP telp number in old agenda and decided to make a phone call, Yes...Ella still works there and her number is 25...

So if one of you still looking for Maduranese Pussy with it's fist "Goyang Madura" or "Empot Ayam"...You can find it in her. If it's hard for you to pronounce the words....just jot them down and show to her.

See in Thread Tanjung Balai karimun about Goyang Madura or Empot Ayam;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=725213#post725213[/url]

She can do it eventhough her massage and BBBJ are average...

Ella;
her number in PP Serba Sehat is 25...

Age: 28 yero (now I think)
Origin: Madura
Skin: yellow (such as Sundanese)
measurement: 162cm/53kg/bra 34 B (that time)
Massage Job: average
BBBJ: average
FJ: try this one...Goyang Madura !

This link support the address of PP Serba Sehat !

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727680&postcount=471[/url]


Cheers.

[QUOTE=Mangga]Depends on whether it was money for a taxi or "taxi money". :)[/QUOTE]

Wow..... I didn't think of that distinction! All I know that I paid for my ride by paying for her ride! LOL

[QUOTE=MrBill1963]Forget if the parliament passes the law, I don't believe the institutions involved are smart enough to stop someone from accessing these sorts of sites if they are determined. Sure if they could get the ISP's to block certain sites it would stop the average user with a 3rd grade education but anyone with any sense of how the internet works would easily circumvent this control.

So where is the law on the books about repairing the roads? Surely you jest.[/QUOTE]

That's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter what laws get passed in Indonesia, there is no capacity to implement them.

Are there laws on repairing the roads? Yep, heaps of them. Try the laws on public works, or regional government, or transport... There are hundreds, but they're rarely put into effect.

[QUOTE=Mangga]That's exactly what I'm saying. It doesn't matter what laws get passed in Indonesia, there is no capacity to implement them.

Are there laws on repairing the roads? Yep, heaps of them. Try the laws on public works, or regional government, or transport... There are hundreds, but they're rarely put into effect.[/QUOTE]I don't agree with this. As trivial as it is, it seems clamping down on pornography is more important to them than improving transport, etc. For example, I don't see any of the old tabloids anymore like Exotica or Lipstick. They set out to abolish those when playboy came and accomplished that.

Since this recent announcement, every indo web site I knew of with a pornographic format (like Bintang mawar) has been completely changed in format to not include any pornography anymore. They are obviously enforcing something.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Smoothy,

That is not true you can score freebie at blok M if you put some time into it ,there are many girl at the mall you can score you will suprise how easy it is to meet freebie there just work the mall during the day and the bar at night .

Fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]


Hahaha..

I hv a regular in Blok M. went back with me 3 times and always goes back in the morning where I will send her to Fatmawati, ATM, get some cash and pay her if I am short.

Once, went back together with another friend and her friend. Did not finish the biz as her friend want to go back and same for my friend. Told her I am cashless and would give her by transfer tomorrow since It's 3 am when she want to go back.

Next morning, she SMS me non stop to threaten me with all kinds of words that I have to be careful if I do not pay. Worst of all, she do not even have a bank account that I could transfer but uses her friend's which is some funny bank and BCA do not have TT with... So I have to leave my work behind and goes to the bank and TT the 300k to her. What a waste of my time... Considering that even when I did not bring her back. I tips her at least 50k.....

So much for freebie.... But yes.. once a friend pick up a Chinese Pontianak girl and at LM and check in at Malawai hotel. He asked his driver to go to BCA but could not get any money and he did not pay her.... That is consider Freebie? This girl is very new in blok m...Never seen her since.....

Cheers

[QUOTE=Oyenk]
So if one of you still looking for Maduranese Pussy with it's fist "Goyang Madura" or "Empot Ayam"...You can find it in her. If it's hard for you to pronounce the words....just jot them down and show to her.

[/QUOTE]

Sorry, could not find the meaning of "Goyang Madura" and "Empot Ayam". Because I am trying to learn bahassa, this might be a usefull addition to my vocabulary

NO

Hi brothers!

I traveled a lot in Asia (Philippines & Thai), and in april I will be for my first time in Jakarta

I RTFF and I found the Oasis Amir Hotel a good value x price.

I ask to the experts if it is good to reserve for 375.000 IDR x night, or it is possible to have a better rate.

I woul like go to Atrium Mall in afternoon, and in the other places in nightime (Blok M, massages and so on). I think Oasis is very central for this program

Good choice or it is possible to find better hotel (location, service) for this budget?

Thanks!

Last night I was in Maribaya and it was empty except for another fellow bule. There was a cute girl by name Rini from Jeppara and I asked her whether she would like to spend the night out, party and sleep with me. She readily agreed and we negotiated the rate for Rp.600,000 for the whole night. It was 8 pm and the price was till 5 am. She said in case she had to join me right away then I will have to pay a bar fine of Rp.155K and I agreed. I took her out to D's place for a drink and then went to Pondok Nirwana. Left her about 45 minutes back and here I am reporting.

The surprise element was the bar fine. I though it was restricted to Phillipines and Thailand. I guess, it will catch up here too soon. Or is it already in vogue?

Cheers

[QUOTE=Non Olet]Sorry, could not find the meaning of "Goyang Madura" and "Empot Ayam". Because I am trying to learn bahassa, this might be a usefull addition to my vocabulary

NO[/QUOTE]
I doubt if you'll find those phrases in most mainstream English-Bahasa Indonesian dictionaries, as they are street slang.

In Bahasa Indonesian, the adjective follows the noun (opposite of English), so the first phrase is "Madura-ese" Goyang while "Ayam" means both chicken (the animal) and a young prostitute in Bahasa Indonesian.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]After a long break, I recently went back to Kartika as I had been missing the soapy massages...

...I ended up by paying her 300k (250+ tip) and she was quite pissed and expected 100k as tip. But given her service and attitude I thought that was enough. I had paid 100k to Cynthia as tip because of the excellent service that she had given.[/QUOTE]
A further thought on the section of your post referring to the tip you gave at Kartika:

Yes, the accepted minimum tip is 50,000 rupiah, with many guys (including me) giving 100,000 rupiah for outstanding service.

Unfortunately, we mongers may begin to experience more incidents such as what Spice Lover described, that is that the girls will start expecting 100,000 rupiah as a minimum, whether they deserve it or not. Part of the reason is simple economics, as the 250,000 rupiah house fee at Kartika has not increased since 2005, and the girls only receive 80,000 rupiah out of that 250,000 rupiah total.

Add in the recent doubling of the price of staple items such as rice, cooking oil, tofu/tempeh and kerosene, plus the tremendous pressure from the girl's family back home to send home more money, and combine this with the slight decrease in business in the Jakarta mongering scene during the last six months (i.e. less customers), and obviously the girls would like as big a tip as possible.

To illustrate this, the following happened to me recently (I did not post this story before now) - I stopped by Kartika, all of my favorites were either busy upstairs or off-duty, so I ended up choosing a girl who I had never been with before, 22, chunky but cute, she knew me by name even though I did not recall ever seeing her there before (she said she's worked there for over a year). Had a decent but not outstanding session and debated whether to give her the minimum 50 or 100 as a tip. Decided to give her 100,000 rupiah anyway, and I was shocked when she started complaining "is that all?" I replied in Bahasa Indonesian that 100,000 is a good tip, that I was a good customer and knew what the proper tip was, also that no Indonesian would give her more than that for the service received, and she quickly backed down and said sorry, sorry, thank you for the tip.

Needless to say, I won't be choosing her again!

I found Jakartaafterdark on this site and took the nightlife tour last week. It was excellent and I not only felt like I saw a very good selection of the sex scene but safe and secure in the process. Great fun! The host was on time, clean-cut, extremely friendly and courteous and did not try to squeeze any extra money. The fee was fixed and in fact there was no rushing and we extended beyond 3 hours at no extra cost. The places we visited were varied and excellent including the famous soapy massage and some excellent clubs with very nice girls at great prices. As their advert implies, I think this tour not only could help avoid scams and overpricing but it definititely lets you see a bit of everything in a stress free way. The fee included transportation in a decent car. I also took the 8 hour day tour and that was really fantastic and I am certain that I was able to see more of Jakarta as a result. Money well spent and a fantastic time enjoyed!

[QUOTE=Rainman 2108]Hahaha..

I hv a regular in Blok M. went back with me 3 times and always goes back in the morning where I will send her to Fatmawati, ATM, get some cash and pay her if I am short.

Once, went back together with another friend and her friend. Did not finish the biz as her friend want to go back and same for my friend. Told her I am cashless and would give her by transfer tomorrow since It's 3 am when she want to go back.

Next morning, she SMS me non stop to threaten me with all kinds of words that I have to be careful if I do not pay. Worst of all, she do not even have a bank account that I could transfer but uses her friend's which is some funny bank and BCA do not have TT with... So I have to leave my work behind and goes to the bank and TT the 300k to her. What a waste of my time... Considering that even when I did not bring her back. I tips her at least 50k.....

So much for freebie.... But yes.. once a friend pick up a Chinese Pontianak girl and at LM and check in at Malawai hotel. He asked his driver to go to BCA but could not get any money and he did not pay her.... That is consider Freebie? This girl is very new in blok m...Never seen her since.....

Cheers[/QUOTE]Rainman,

I do understand freebie is not free you still have to wine and dine them you just get the GFE and non pro with low mileage ,I love the mall action in blok m so many girl avalible like to meet foriegn and if you strike out you can always go to Malawai hotel 6th fl or my bar at night.

Fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Buds66]I RTFF and I found the Oasis Amir Hotel a good value x price.
[/QUOTE]
Prive/value is okay for Oasis Amir, I've stayed there once. And it's next to Atrium Mall.
It's catering mostly for Middle East people, so many Arabs and their traditionally dressed women around. Even Saudi-channel in the TV in room.
Thats the reason I stayed there once only, didn't like it too much.

Any recommendation for a nice dance show/striptease place in Jakarta? Anything similar to Bangkok?

I have enjoyed the scene at Mulia and Grand Hyatt a few times, but this time thought I'd venture out a bit more.

Have never been to the Blok M? Is that safe for a stranger alone?

[QUOTE=Christophebe]I found Jakartaafterdark on this site and took the nightlife tour last week. It was excellent and I not only felt like I saw a very good selection of the sex scene but safe and secure in the process. Great fun! The host was on time, clean-cut, extremely friendly and courteous and did not try to squeeze any extra money. The fee was fixed and in fact there was no rushing and we extended beyond 3 hours at no extra cost. The places we visited were varied and excellent including the famous soapy massage and some excellent clubs with very nice girls at great prices. As their advert implies, I think this tour not only could help avoid scams and overpricing but it definititely lets you see a bit of everything in a stress free way. The fee included transportation in a decent car. I also took the 8 hour day tour and that was really fantastic and I am certain that I was able to see more of Jakarta as a result. Money well spent and a fantastic time enjoyed![/QUOTE]Sorry, Is this a report or a promo?

I think if would better to post it in classified ads, not here. But Thanks any way.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Prive/value is okay for Oasis Amir, I've stayed there once. And it's next to Atrium Mall.
It's catering mostly for Middle East people, so many Arabs and their traditionally dressed women around. Even Saudi-channel in the TV in room.
Thats the reason I stayed there once only, didn't like it too much.[/QUOTE]
This hotel even has transit hour time, I was quite confused when I heard the name...Oasis Amir !

[QUOTE=Liondale]Any recommendation for a nice dance show/striptease place in Jakarta? Anything similar to Bangkok?

I have enjoyed the scene at Mulia and Grand Hyatt a few times, but this time thought I'd venture out a bit more.

Have never been to the Blok M? Is that safe for a stranger alone?[/QUOTE]
No idea about dance shows/stripteases; hopefully another member can help you out there.

Yes, the area of Blok M that is written about here (bars such as MyBar and Top gun) is safe for a stranger alone. Most of the action takes place on the one street where those bars are located, so you won't need to walk around much.

Obviously you should take the normal safety precautions that any monger should take when going out for the evening: keep your valuables in the hotel safe, don't walk around with too much cash, don't use your credit cards in any of these places, lock your passport in the safe and walk around with a photocopy of the face page instead (thanks to Bulai69 for this suggestion).

A few weeks I posted about a warning that had been issued by the US Embassy about foreigners being targeted in some Jakarta bars and having their drinks spiked; something to be aware of. For me, the solution is simple: drink only beer, and make sure the bottle is opened in front of you.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Sorry, Is this a report or a promo?[/QUOTE]

I think it's a good report.

JAD is a valuable member of ISG, often providing useful insights and humorous comments on Jakarta's nightlife on this forum, free of charge. He doesn't promote his own services here. I think it's perfectly cool for a satisfied customer to comment on what he offers, they could be a valuable resource for someone new to the city and without contacts here.

With all due respect to JAD, it's not that different from somebody giving positive feedback on a service provider or venue.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Yes, the area of Blok M that is written about here (bars such as MyBar and Top gun) is safe for a stranger alone. Most of the action takes place on the one street where those bars are located, so you won't need to walk around much.[/QUOTE]

More or less true. There's some pretty tough characters on the street, but they seem to be there more to protect the punters than harass them. The only thing to be careful of is that the taxis that lurk in the area are often a bit dodgy. At the very least, you are usually better off taking a taxi that is cruising rather than one that's parked outside the bar and waiting for you. Or you could take a Silverbird and get them to wait, although I never bother.

Haven't been in JKTA for 6 months. Arrived a few days back on a working visit.

Have a 30 yr old cutie, a secretary, who I've seen on many previous visits. She was there at airport to meet me. Nice taxi ride back to hotel during which time my hands were busy in her panties most of the ride. Up to the room followed by the boom. Or should I say the double boom.

She couldn't stay. "home to Mom". But she was free of course.

Sowent out for massage. Meha cikini hotel the choice from the album was not same a pic (how often does that happen). But I needed a release anyways.

Then to BATS but nothin happening there. And Tigah Pullme. But by then needed to sleep.

Worked nexzt day but had a 3 hour break for lunch. Went to Menteng Hotel (I know theres two so don't know which one). Selected Rini from the album. I love the thrill of wondering whether it will be a good photo and crap girl or crap photo and good girl. Rini was the latter. 23. Slim, cute as a button with a great happy smile. Neither if us spoke each others language but smiles helped. Anyways. After the firt hour Rinis clothes are off. She gave gret wank with blow. And was happy to finger herself to a loud come too.

Back to work, then off to an office near Mulia to meet a Date in Asia lady, who is also a secretary. We had been chatting for a month and sex was alwys hinted at. Cute funny gal on phone and very friendly. We had a great night. Hit CJ's Bats and Tigah Pull as well as some restaurant and bars. We had lots of smiles and was natural that we return to my hotel at end of night for mor fun. Clothes off. Very tasty puss. Slept at 3. She left at 8am.

Todays problem is that girl number one wants to see me tonight. So was girl number 2.

What they don't know is that I know two ladyboys who have a "stable" of young girls. So one is bringing an 18 year old to my hotel for my delight. Told its RM400 plus tip. So lets see. Rest of report to follow.

Thanks Gonzo and Mighty for your tips. Will take some cautious steps in the area and see what happens. If I am not back by Monday call the cops :)

Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?

Nude dancing girls in Jakarta is not very common. I think some of the less attractive girls will do that to increase their odds of being noticed and getting asked back to someone's hotel.

I have always been amused by the modest of Indonesian girls in this sense: they will give you a mind-blowing experience in bed, fully uninhibited... and then they are shy about being seen naked when they run to the bathroom.

I love them.

[QUOTE=Liondale]Thanks Gonzo and Mighty for your tips. Will take some cautious steps in the area and see what happens. If I am not back by Monday call the cops :)

Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Liondale]Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?[/QUOTE]May be this would interest you but be careful about the tequillas:

[QUOTE=Berguling Lagi]Last night I was at the M'nB Bar at Sparks Hotel where there is a live band playing and like a lot of such bars there is a sexy dance show each time the band takes a break - usually each hour. Previously the sexy dancers I have seen just wore skimpy outfits and that's it but at M'nB they strip completely naked. Last night there were 4 dancers. They came on stage in black bras and panties. Three were just OK to look at but one was a real stunner. One girl's panties were quite see through at the front and showed up her pussy very nicely. Compared to other places I thought that was a bonus until suddenly they all took everything off and danced naked on the stage. Later they went amongst the guests and anyone silly enough to buy them 'tequillas' could have a personal in-your-face gyration and a bit of fondling as well. There seemed to be plenty of punters willing to fork out Rp 80,000 per glass for that. However, its not necessary. You still can sit there and enjoy the scenery without throwing money away. M'nB bar is easy to find as its entrance is in the hotel lobby directly opposite the hotel front door.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Liondale]Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?[/QUOTE]Another place you might like to try is the V2 PUB at Duta Merlin Plaza 3rd Floor - Jl. Gajah Mada 3-5 Jakarta Pusat. Again its sexy dancers who perform each hour when the live band takes a break. However, at V2 they never strip completely - topless only.

I've not stayed at Oasis Amir but I am familiar with it. Geographically it's ideal for Atrium Mall but not much else. You may be better at an IBIS such as the one near Sarinah which could even be a bit cheaper and is certainly OK. I did check in there once a year or so ago when I'd picked up a girl in Atrium I didn't wish to take back to my usual hotel. Service is good, no problem taking girls in (I don't know anywhere where there is) and it's handy for 24 hour cafe's and McDonalds where girls can be found quite late.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]no problem taking girls in (I don't know anywhere where there is) [/QUOTE]
I think besides Oasis Amir, there is another hotel...Aston hotel / four star hotel (if I am not mistaken).

cheers.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]I've not stayed at Oasis Amir but I am familiar with it. Geographically it's ideal for Atrium Mall but not much else. You may be better at an IBIS such as the one near Sarinah which could even be a bit cheaper and is certainly OK. I did check in there once a year or so ago when I'd picked up a girl in Atrium I didn't wish to take back to my usual hotel. Service is good, no problem taking girls in (I don't know anywhere where there is) and it's handy for 24 hour cafe's and McDonalds where girls can be found quite late.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bulai69 (I always read your reports!)

When you speak about

[quote]did check in there once a year or so ago when I'd picked up a girl in Atrium I didn't wish to take back to my usual hotel. Service is good, no problem taking girls in (I don't know anywhere where there is) and it's handy for 24 hour cafe's and McDonalds where girls can be found quite late.[/quote]It is IBIS or OASIS? (I think IBIS but not sure)

On my recent trip back to Jakarta, I visited one of my old hunting grounds that I used to frequent 5-10 years ago: the karaoke bars in Blok M near Hotel Melawai. The situation there has deteriorated in the past 5 years: not as many girls and just a bit more run down. My strategy in these places has always been to find a nice takeout girl. It seems like the % of girls who will do that now has declined. I had several good options, but decided to just take a few cellphone numbers for later contact. The next day, a young 20 year old girl named Julie called and asked if she could come over. I agreed. She arrived at my hotel in Kemang and acted like she just wanted to hang out. We talked, watched some TV, talked some more... and then I tried to kiss her. She seemed very shy at first about kissing, and then gave in. She was quite inexperienced, but quickly improved. I started to roam under her shirt, and she kept stopping me. But the more passionately I kissed her, the more she obliged and I soon had her shirt and bra off and was kissing and sucking her perfect pair of 34Bs. I had her breathing so hard and she was squirming. As I began to unzip her pants, she got a bit panicky and said she had only done that twice before and acted very surprised that I wanted to do that. I assured her that I just wanted to massage her kitty and make her feel good. At first she resisted and tried to just keep going with the kissing, but after about 10 minutes I was able to remove her pants and cute pink panties. I went down on her for about 15 minutes and she was screaming and breathing hard and just writhing on the bed. She said she had never done this. I undressed myself and she seemed stunned at how large my bule presence was. She didn't know how to kiss and lick me there, but she gave it a really nice try. I went down on her again to get her loosened up again, and then positioned myself to enter her. She about lost it. It hurt a lot at first... but then she warmed up and really got into it. It was an amazing time. I couldn't last long. We just lay there and cuddled for a long time. When she was leaving, she never even asked for any money, but I gave her Rp300k and asked her to buy some new sexy clothes for her next visit. We met several more times during the stay, had dinners together, and had several more unbelievable sessions in bed. I can't wait to get back to Jakarta for future visits. The Melawai discos have some real gems if you are lucky and you know how to cultivate them.

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Hi everyone, I live in Hong Kong, and have an opportunity for a 3 day week end in Jakarta.

My first time there, I have gone back 25 or so pages in the Jakarta forum, and I am so confused. This is a huge city, and I cannot figure out where anything is, except for a few things.

I have figured out where is blok M, which is where the bars like Top Gun, and D’s place are, and am planning on staying at the Golden boutique hotel or Melawai 1. (Any thoughts)?

I like the idea of “mall hunting”. But in case I strike out, where can I find a really great MP nearby, where I can get a lovely session, with FS? There are so many names of places mentioned here, it is just overwhelming. I am interested in local girls only, no Chinese, Thai, or PRC.

Thanks for helping a newb out.

[QUOTE=John Marigold99]I have always been amused by the modest of Indonesian girls in this sense: they will give you a mind-blowing experience in bed, fully uninhibited... and then they are shy about being seen naked when they run to the bathroom.

I love them.[/QUOTE]Yeah I know, the same with my GF, even after spending weeks in the same bed she is shy when she has to change her clothes, but getting into the bathroom when she is already naked there and taking a shower together is no problem. Or kissing when one of her friends is looking, is a no go too. Yes they are lovely these indo girls, beautiful, sweet, hot and funny. And mine is a great cook as well, what more can a man want, apart from not having to go back to Europe every couple of weeks to earn money again to keep them happy.

Ok. So if you read earlier I as having trouble on my latest JKTA trip deciding gilr one or two. Well I solved the problem by going with girl 3. A Date in Asia lady who I had been chatting with for 2 months prior to this trip. Normal modus operandi. Chat. Intensify the chat with calls and sms 2 weeks prior to visit. Move chat onto sex. She was biting so I knew it would be ok.

Met her at her office after she finshed work. She had a big beaming smile. And within 5 minutes, were holding hands going into a mall. From there to a bar and wine. And we get closer and closer till were kissing like teenagers. She said " I don't care" I'm happy. ". Anyways from there we talk about dinner plans. We realised we didn't care about food and wanted action. So we get taxi to hotel. She sits in taxi and I realise that driver doesnt have a rear view mirror. Hand is on leg, up leg and into panties. Shes encouraging this. And then, thanks to the wine, part her legs an give her a licking. And this is going down Sudirman. Was great fun.

To the room and wonderful times. Eventually end up in bath (and all woman love the shower head doing the pussy massage. Always works) off to Tigah Pulah for a few beers and back to bed. Was great. She stayed and she had change of clothes in her small bag. She had known what was going to happen. And of course its all free. And it truly helped that we very aroused easily. She told me she came 8 times during the night.

Next day I went to Plaza Semanggi and wondered round the two great little sexy lingerie stores. Bought her something cute. Met her at her office again. Taxi gets caught in the storm traffic. But he had a rear view mirror. So I helped her come with my fingers.

I offered to take her shopping whih I don't normally do, but she was so happy and truly a boost to this over 50's guy ego. Looking great helped too.

Anyways as we walk shes very discreetly touching my cock now and again. Great fun. Had dinner. Took taxi. Finger in pussy, and during this, she discreetly removes her panties.

Back in hotel I just opened door before pushing her against wall and giving her tasty shaven puss a good licking. She walks over to sofa and lifts up her pantieless dress, and literall pushes her ass out and up. Was sooo inviting. So of course she gets shagged.

We move to bed, and shes on top. And shes achieving this state of near constant orgasm. Her mouth is permanently grinning and she told me in 30 mins she had 5 orgasms. More bath time fun.

More drinks in Tigah Pulah. More kising there. Her hand in my pants most of time. Shes just left. Very very tasty girl. All free (ok I bought her clothes and shoes US$100 willingly) and made arrangements fro heer to visit me next month in my country. Lifes good!

[QUOTE=Liondale]

Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?[/QUOTE]

You will see it in the VIP room at Ds, not raving beauties but something to look at. They will do that if someone asks them too. Someone is paying so if you watch a lot offer to tip them some cash.

Are you refering to Aston Atrium Hotel @ [url]www.astonatrium.co.id/[/url]

[QUOTE=Oyenk]I think besides Oasis Amir, there is another hotel...Aston hotel / four star hotel (if I am not mistaken).

cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KL Guy]Are you refering to Aston Atrium Hotel @ [url]www.astonatrium.co.id/[/url][/QUOTE]
Yes KL Guy !

I think it's closer to Atrium Senen than Hotel Oasis Amir, to them who wish to hunt gals in Atrium Senen but prefer to stay in a non arab hotel name...I suggest this hotel...anyway Aston Atrium Hotel seems to have higher rate than Oasis Amir.
If you stay in Oasis Amir and wish to go to Atrium Senen...you have to pass Aston Atrium Hotel !

Thanks KL Guy for the link !

[QUOTE=Luvtorim]Hi everyone, I live in Hong Kong, and have an opportunity for a 3 day week end in Jakarta.

My first time there, I have gone back 25 or so pages in the Jakarta forum, and I am so confused. This is a huge city, and I cannot figure out where anything is, except for a few things.

I have figured out where is blok M, which is where the bars like Top Gun, and D’s place are, and am planning on staying at the Golden boutique hotel or Melawai 1. (Any thoughts)?

I like the idea of “mall hunting”. But in case I strike out, where can I find a really great MP nearby, where I can get a lovely session, with FS? There are so many names of places mentioned here, it is just overwhelming. I am interested in local girls only, no Chinese, Thai, or PRC.

Thanks for helping a newb out.[/QUOTE]
With all due modesty, I recommend that you go to the "General Info" section of the Indonesia board, and check out Post #389, currently on page 6, written by me on January 1, 2008. It's a decent overview that links you to some other useful posts.

Since you'll be staying in the blok M area, it's easy to recommend a "really great MP, where you can get a lovely session, with FS" - just go to Maribaya Spa on the 6th Floor of Hotel Melawai I. This place is open from 10/11 a.m. until 11 p.m. or so. Filled with local Indonesian girls, most decent-looking and in their 20s. There are two distinct shifts here, the day shift heads home by 5 p.m., the evening shift doesn't arrive until just before 5 p.m.

Only downsides here are the rooms (somewhat run-down) and the cost, the house fee just got bumped up from 350,000 to 400,000 rupiah for one hour, of which the girl keeps at least 225,000 rupiah. As a result of the price increase, the number of customers has dropped, and many of the customers that do go there may not give a tip, or else give a tip of 50,000 rupiah, no more.

A side effect of the drop in business is that you may experience tremendous pressure to take "two girls," that's up to you but obviously the cost can add up quickly at 2 x 400,000 rupiah plus two possible tips. If you do take two girls, the best thing seems to be to pick one girl and let her pick the second girl; if you choose both girls yourself, you risk picking two girls who may not get along with each other.

I've had good luck here lately with Irma of the evening shift, decent looking, nice figure and above-average service, but I recommend you should take a careful look and make your own choice.

A side comment - one thing I like about this place is that the girls are all of legal age (18 and up) and work there willingly, unlike some of the MPs in Kota/glodok where many of the teen girls are apparently forced to work there to pay off debts incurred by their family.

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In addition to Maribaya, there are many other decent MPs in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Travel and the famous Kartika (still my favorite in Jakarta, famous for the soapy body massage, IMHO every male visitor to Jakarta should have at least one session here), plus some more expensive, high-end places such as Alexis or Malioboro.

Look forward to a post from you of the results of your trip.

[QUOTE=Oyenk]I've been with her in mid 2006, this morning I found this PP telp number in old agenda and decided to make a phone call, Yes...Ella still works there and her number is 25...

So if one of you still looking for Maduranese Pussy with it's fist "Goyang Madura" or "Empot Ayam"...You can find it in her. If it's hard for you to pronounce the words....just jot them down and show to her.

See in Thread Tanjung Balai karimun about Goyang Madura or Empot Ayam;
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=725213#post725213[/url]

She can do it even though her massage and BBBJ are average...

Ella;
her number in PP Serba Sehat is 25...

Age: 28 years (now I think)
Origin: Madura
Skin: yellow (such as Sundanese)
measurement: 162cm/53kg/bra 34 B (that time)
Massage Job: average
BBBJ: average
FJ: try this one...Goyang Madura !

This link support the address of PP Serba Sehat !

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=727680&postcount=471[/url]


Cheers.[/QUOTE]
Lately, I've been in the mood to try out some places that are both new (to me) and which have rarely been posted on here on the Indonesia board.

Thanks to Oyenk, I went to PP Serba Sehat today to try out Ella (#25) and her Madurese pussy. The statistics listed by Oyenk are correct, except she's now 30 and is only 1.55 in height, still 53 kgs. (i.e. not thin). She has a 14 month old daughter and apparently has worked in the Jakarta massage circuit for several years.

With two exceptions, Ella is very "average" - average face, average body, average service, and not a real gfe. The two exceptions are her personality (lots of fun to be with, very pleasant and outgoing, felt as if I've known her for a few years even though we had just met) and of course her outstanding "Madurese pussy" skill, which was just incredible. Her cowgirl skills were outstanding, no surprise, but her mish skills were even better - I can't ever recall being on top in the missionary position and have the girl be as active underneath as her.

The PP Serba Sehat is located one alley over from Kartika, appears to be recently renovated and is very clean. The set-up is a bit different than the other MPs in the same area (the two alleys between Stadium and Kartika) in that none of the girls are visible anywhere on the ground floor, the only way to choose them is to pick from the photos on the counter-top at the reception counter. The ground floor does not have a smokey bar or karaoke either, just a small reception area up front, stairs, then a well-lit back room which has a juice bar and a few lounge chairs for a "reflexi" (foot) massage. Ella told me that 95 per cent of the customers are Indonesian. mostly Chinese, and that she sees very few "bule" (foreigner) customers.

One thing that I do NOT like is that even the VIP rooms (house fee of 220,000 rupiah) do not have a toilet/shower attached to them. Instead, the floor is set up as two pods, each pod with 4 rooms and two separate shower rooms. I must say that, even though the shower room was next to my massage room and the door was translucent, I felt nervous about being in the shower while my wallet, clothes, etc. were in a separate room. For that reason alone, I may not return here, much as I'd like to experience the Madurese pussy again.

I meant IBIS is ok to take girls to and also handy for McD, and 24 hour cafes nearby. You could get a room for less than 40 USD. It's also near Jalan Jaksa (search forum) which has several very late night places and at the other end of the spectrum, it's walking distance from Plaza Indonesia and eX - good luck!

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Sorry, Is this a report or a promo?

I think if would better to post it in classified ads, not here. But Thanks any way.

My humble two cents.[/QUOTE]


Well... To each his own.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Liondale]Thanks Gonzo and Mighty for your tips. Will take some cautious steps in the area and see what happens. If I am not back by Monday call the cops :)

Seriously though, anyone else knows about any bars where you can see more or less undressed girls dancing?[/QUOTE]


Rich executive club. 100% naked and sits with you.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]
but her mish skills were even better - I can't ever recall being on top in the missionary position and have the girl be as active underneath as her.

For that reason alone, I may not return here, much as I'd like to experience the Madurese pussy again.[/QUOTE]
I think the best position for a man if he wants to enjoy Goyang Madura or Empot Ayam is Missionary position or man on top, through this position the Madurese lady (thanks MS for the correction) can easily do it.
We have to remain silent while she does it !

no 26 in PP Serba Sehat is Nandang (sundanese and has hairy armpit) if she still the bearer of that number and Riri (I forget her number) is one of guest favorite WG in that site.

Yes, that was the disadvantage of PP Serba Sehat...they do not have own bathroom (in the room).

enjoy !

first of all thanks to those who gave me advice.
Sadly I never got the time to visit Blok M now either. Got caught up with late biz meetings and early morning golf.
Anyway...still have a point coming.

I did get 1 hour in Red Square and saw a very sexy little girl there. Got the notion she might be pro, so casually asked one of her friends if she had a boyfriend. The friend told me straight out that the girl I was looking at was a high class escort, and introduced me to her.
The name was Charlie or Charly or Shirley, claimed to have a website which I have not been able to find. But the price was 500 USD or 5 million IDR! She was one of the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta, smallish, but no way I would pay that much. So conversation ended.
Got me curios though, any of you guys heard of her?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]With all due modesty, I recommend that you go to the "General Info" section of the Indonesia board, and check out Post #389, currently on page 6, written by me on January 1, 2008. It's a decent overview that links you to some other useful posts.

Since you'll be staying in the blok M area, it's easy to recommend a "really great MP, where you can get a lovely session, with FS" - just go to Maribaya Spa on the 6th Floor of Hotel Melawai I. This place is open from 10/11 a.m. until 11 p.m. or so. Filled with local Indonesian girls, most decent-looking and in their 20s. There are two distinct shifts here, the day shift heads home by 5 p.m., the evening shift doesn't arrive until just before 5 p.m.

Only downsides here are the rooms (somewhat run-down) and the cost, the house fee just got bumped up from 350,000 to 400,000 rupiah for one hour, of which the girl keeps at least 225,000 rupiah. As a result of the price increase, the number of customers has dropped, and many of the customers that do go there may not give a tip, or else give a tip of 50,000 rupiah, no more.

A side effect of the drop in business is that you may experience tremendous pressure to take "two girls," that's up to you but obviously the cost can add up quickly at 2 x 400,000 rupiah plus two possible tips. If you do take two girls, the best thing seems to be to pick one girl and let her pick the second girl; if you choose both girls yourself, you risk picking two girls who may not get along with each other.

I've had good luck here lately with Irma of the evening shift, decent looking, nice figure and above-average service, but I recommend you should take a careful look and make your own choice.

A side comment - one thing I like about this place is that the girls are all of legal age (18 and up) and work there willingly, unlike some of the MPs in Kota/glodok where many of the teen girls are apparently forced to work there to pay off debts incurred by their family.

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In addition to Maribaya, there are many other decent MPs in the northern part of town, such as Hotel Travel and the famous Kartika (still my favorite in Jakarta, famous for the soapy body massage, IMHO every male visitor to Jakarta should have at least one session here), plus some more expensive, high-end places such as Alexis or Malioboro.

Look forward to a post from you of the results of your trip.[/QUOTE]Thanks Mighty Spearman, unfortunately, the 3 links in your post 389 do not work for me, maybe others are more lucky. Will fumble my way around though.

Ok during last weeks shagfest in Jakarta. (including the licking in the taxi in Sudirman) I also had some sms exchanges with two ladyboys who are both pimps. One pissed me off as she played long long drawn out negotiating game by sms. Not realising that I didn't care for her 18 year old as I had a hottie in my bed anyway. Anyways the other one kept pestering me saying she had young girls. And I thought I might do a little photography of said young lady as my dick was overworked. When I asked the age of girl, and I was shown her pic on handphone of ladyboy pimp. She told me 17 only.

At that point I left. Maybe many others wouldn't have. Girl was cute and apparently willing. But I felt I had to walk away. I'm assuming there are laws in Indonesia about such stuff. So good for me for walking away. But clealrly theres lots of undeage stuff out there.

I recently visit Jaspa in Ambassador Mall for a session with Widi, based upon recommendation in Indonesia board. At lunchtime there's a discount, so 1. 5 hours for 88, 000 rupiah. Widi was about 30, a bit plump, but gave a teasing massage, which I like very much, followed by a hand job, followed by negotiations for a BBBJCIM for 300K. OK, I'm not the best at negotiations, but there you have it.

She also gave a very nice and capable massage. Recommended.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok during last weeks shagfest in Jakarta. (including the licking in the taxi in Sudirman) I also had some sms exchanges with two ladyboys who are both pimps. One pissed me off as she played long long drawn out negotiating game by sms. Not realising that I didn't care for her 18 year old as I had a hottie in my bed anyway. Anyways the other one kept pestering me saying she had young girls. And I thought I might do a little photography of said young lady as my dick was overworked. When I asked the age of girl, and I was shown her pic on handphone of ladyboy pimp. She told me 17 only.

At that point I left. Maybe many others wouldn't have. Girl was cute and apparently willing. But I felt I had to walk away. I'm assuming there are laws in Indonesia about such stuff. So good for me for walking away. But clealrly theres lots of undeage stuff out there.[/QUOTE]
Yes, you did the right thing!

IMHO, there's no need to break the law and fool around with a girl under 18, as there are hundreds (thousands) of young-looking legal-age girls available.

Also, no real need to deal with ladyboy pimps, there's plenty of young ladies available at Atrium Mall and various MPs in Kota. Kartika and Royal Mas both have a couple of legal-age young girls who have recently started to work there.

A few days ago, I paid my first visit to the Maribaya, a place that has been frequently recommended on this thread. Although its one of the few places that opens as early as 10 am, a time suitable for a mongerer like me who finds mid-day mongering more convenient, I had avoided going there because of its exposed location. But in the end, lust, the motivating force for all of us, drove me to arrive there around 1130.

I found the bar at that hour with about 15-20 WGs and not another male in sight. It as a tough choice as they all kept on trying to attract my attention while I sat at the bar and sipped a coke , trying to make up my mind. In the end I chose Tia, a 23 yo form Semarang because of her looks and pleasant face. It wasn't a bad choice- she was responsive and her service was good even though she spoke only bahasa Indonesia. She told me that she had been there for a month and was straight out of the kampung- don't know if this was true. Of course, given the paucity of customers, I got the usual approaches asking me to take two! Tia, later told me that she had not had a customer for the last 3 days.

In the room , she took off her bra and as usual I found that her breasts were quite small and it was the local wonder-bra that had created the illusion of larger breasts. However, Tia gave me a wonderful bbbj while I played with her and asked me if I wanted CIM. As a result of her excellent ministrations, I almost did. She, too, was very responsive to stimulation and came at least twice during the session. After that we went through with the cowboy and doggie. I couldn't hold myself and came. But another slurpy and soft-mouthed session on bbbj put me in the mood for more and I was able to enter her again in mish. But as I couldn't come, she relieved me with a fast -paced hj and I ended up with COB. Although, this may not count as two pops, this was one of the few occasions that I found someone in a MP willing to allow me to re-enter after a pop. I would recommend her highly- looks-8, bbbj- 9, service-9. I gave her the usual 400k +100k tip for the excellent service.

As far as Maribaya was concerned, I found the rooms to be badly maintained and quite grotty . It wouldn't be my usual choice for mongering unless I was driven by day-time lust.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]I recently visit Jaspa in Ambassador Mall for a session with Widi, based upon recommendation in Indonesia board. At lunchtime there's a discount, so 1. 5 hours for 88, 000 rupiah. Widi was about 30, a bit plump, but gave a teasing massage, which I like very much, followed by a hand job, followed by negotiations for a BBBJCIM for 300K. OK, I'm not the best at negotiations, but there you have it.

She also gave a very nice and capable massage. Recommended.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Do not know widi, but I have tried tanti or tari, she was fun and very into the extra stuff.

good hunting.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]I don't think I'll go back to Kartika unless I find someone who provides a level of services like Cynthia. Any suggestions or recommendations?[/QUOTE]

I had a great experience with a lady named Yanti at Kartika. Slim, about 32, one kid. But nice body and excellent service. After an excellent body massage, she gave a BBBJ while providing additional strokes between two fingers. Extraordinary! Then the raincoat and a variety of positions. Will definitely go back.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]A few days ago, I paid my first visit to the Maribaya, a place that has been frequently recommended on this thread. Although its one of the few places that opens as early as 10 am, a time suitable for a mongerer like me who finds mid-day mongering more convenient, I had avoided going there because of its exposed location. But in the end, lust, the motivating force for all of us, drove me to arrive there around 1130.

I found the bar at that hour with about 15-20 WGs and not another male in sight. It as a tough choice as they all kept on trying to attract my attention while I sat at the bar and sipped a coke , trying to make up my mind. In the end I chose Tia, a 23 yo form Semarang because of her looks and pleasant face. It wasn't a bad choice- she was responsive and her service was good even though she spoke only bahasa Indonesia. She told me that she had been there for a month and was straight out of the kampung- don't know if this was true. Of course, given the paucity of customers, I got the usual approaches asking me to take two! Tia, later told me that she had not had a customer for the last 3 days.

In the room , she took off her bra and as usual I found that her breasts were quite small and it was the local wonder-bra that had created the illusion of larger breasts. However, Tia gave me a wonderful bbbj while I played with her and asked me if I wanted CIM. As a result of her excellent ministrations, I almost did. She, too, was very responsive to stimulation and came at least twice during the session. After that we went through with the cowboy and doggie. I couldn't hold myself and came. But another slurpy and soft-mouthed session on bbbj put me in the mood for more and I was able to enter her again in mish. But as I couldn't come, she relieved me with a fast -paced hj and I ended up with COB. Although, this may not count as two pops, this was one of the few occasions that I found someone in a MP willing to allow me to re-enter after a pop. I would recommend her highly- looks-8, bbbj- 9, service-9. I gave her the usual 400k +100k tip for the excellent service.

As far as Maribaya was concerned, I found the rooms to be badly maintained and quite grotty . It wouldn't be my usual choice for mongering unless I was driven by day-time lust.[/QUOTE]
I enjoyed your report, and have had a similar experience several times at Maribaya, in that I came relatively early during the session, but the girl (or girls, for those times that I've had a two-girl session) kept going and tried for a second pop from me.

Exposed? I don't think it's that bad, as you are first entering a hotel which has a restaurant, coffee shop, etc., and with no one seeing you enter the MP unless they are on the 6th floor.

Thanks for the good report.

[QUOTE=Liondale]

I did get 1 hour in Red Square and saw a very sexy little girl there. Got the notion she might be pro, so casually asked one of her friends if she had a boyfriend. The friend told me straight out that the girl I was looking at was a high class escort, and introduced me to her.
The name was Charlie or Charly or Shirley, claimed to have a website which I have not been able to find. But the price was 500 USD or 5 million IDR! She was one of the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta, smallish, but no way I would pay that much. So conversation ended.
Got me curios though, any of you guys heard of her?[/QUOTE]

Wow, very interesting FR you have here regards red SQ. Am surprised. Anybody have same encounter or maybe in V2, X2, Vetigo etc?

Cheers

Red square seems still popular and a happening place, wouldn't be surprised if high class escorts would frequent it.. there were some nice looking girls last night. Tomorrow, Saturday April 20, DJ Tiesto is playing in X2, tickets are still available.

There were some very hot looking girls dancing D's place tonite, white high-heel f-boots seems to be in. It looks like they taken down that small dancing platform they used to have in the VIP room to the bar below.. Girl/guy ratio in Top gun - 5 to 1, they're all over you... cheers.

I know that Jaksa is not the mongering spot of choice for most ISG members, and I think there are good reasons for that: generally, the cost/quality ratio is not that good. There are a lot of fairly marginal, scruffy girls who manage to pull backpacker tourists and passers-through who, while not being that extravagant, still overpay. So unless you know what you are doing, a ST or LT is probably just as expensive or more than in Blok M, with less range to choose from.

Even so, I thought it might be worth doing a bit of mini-guide to the place.

For a start, as has been pointed out before by many sharp-eyed mongers, the lines between upmarket and downmarket in Jakarta can be a bit blurry, with many girls adjusting the price depending on the venue that they are at: same girl who asks for Rp 1 million at BATS might be happy with Rp 500 though at CJs or Rp 300 thou at Blok M. Jaksa is probably a bottom end place, where the prices are at their lowest - except that girls will exploit drunkenness and inexperience to get the best possible deal. But that's hardly just a Jaksa issue.

There are a whole bunch of girls who are more like 'Jaksa natives', who hang around there all the time and can usually be found in the bars there. While some of them are good fun and they usually speak good English, the quality of this bunch is generally pretty poor, and can go all the way down to freak show. This kind often manage to attach themselves to a tourist for a few days and do the GF thing for a backpacker or budget tourist, bit like some of the girls in the tourist zones of Jogja.

As for the venues, starting at the north end of the street:

Absolut: this is not a bad bar, by Jaksa standards, with good ac, friendly staff, cheap drinks and a pool table upstairs, open til about 3:00 am. It gets some Indonesian customers, including girls who are out with bfs and husbands, although there are also quite a few singles. There are a few girls who hang out here regularly, and they tend to be a bit more presentable than the gang down at Memories. Relatively speaking.

Memories: this is the easiest place to pull, but also freak show central. But it also gets quite a good sprinkling of better girls. Still, it's open air, no ac, lousy band. Cheap beer. Shitty food. This place gets going at about 10 and shuts at 2. Really is the biggest meat market on the block.

Pappa's: this is a very grotty cafe/pub/backpacker place. The only thing it really has in its favor is that it's open 24/7. After 2 - 3 in the morning, particularly on weekends, it can be quite a fun place, with lots of girls coming for a last-chance pick up or just to chill out and drink with friends. At the right time, it gets a lot of off-Jaksa girls, including some higher quality ones who are slumming it a bit.

Ya Udah: this place probably has the best food on the strip, although it's still pretty mediocre. It gets a large number of surprisingly "respectable" and "nice" girls, who usually come with groups of friends or with a partner, as they discourage blatant pick up activity here. Still, on one occasion, I made eye contact with a girl who was with some bule who was facing the other way and got her number for later. And I'm certainly not a miracle worker with that kind of thing.

Romance: This place is not really a great place to pull, more of an Eng teacher and other low end expat hang out, with most of the girls coming with partners. It's not a bad place for a drink, though. Lot of Africans, mostly a reasonable bunch, with quite a few African women, some of whom might be available if you talked to them nicely and put a bit of effort in - certainly not all of them are spoken for by the African guys.

If you do pick up a girl in Jaksa, the odds are that she'll know a cheap hotel where you can get a room for a couple of hours for less than Rp 100k. Nothing fancy, and I bet you'd get resistance if you tried to take an off Jaksa girl from a bar like CJ's or BATS there - I wouldn't even try! - but really some of the rooms are no worse than Maribaya, AC, bathroom, bed. Lot of these rooms are down little gangs in what look like private houses, who make the rooms available for a bit of extra cash.

Okay, I'm going to repeat the disclaimer: Jaksa is not at all the best place to pull in Jakarta, by a long shot, regardless of whether you are looking for quality or value for money. A lot of long term residents or discerning visitors will turn their noses up at it altogether, and I can't really blame them. Still, it has possibilities if you find yourself down there and at a loose end. Hope this helps!

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]...If you do pick up a girl in Jaksa, the odds are that she'll know a cheap hotel where you can get a room for a couple of hours for less than Rp 100k. Nothing fancy, and I bet you'd get resistance if you tried to take an off Jaksa girl from a bar like CJ's or BATS there - I wouldn't even try!...[/QUOTE]

Reminded me about a question I've been meaning to pose the Jakarta regulars:

I usually stay in the Kota/Mangga Besar area when I visit Jakarta to play. Consequently I would frequent the non-P4P clubs in that area and pull the odd FL or two. However on my next visit I'd like to try the more upmarket non-P4P clubs (Red Sq., X2, etc.). Knowing how status-conscious some of these girls are (at least amongst those that frequent the more upmarket places), would you think staying in a decent hotel but in the RLD such as Kota is going to have them turn up their noses at me?

Or maybe I should just stay in the south next time. I like the Kota/Mangga Besar area, sleazy as it is, for the obvious reasons - everything is available and the street food is excellent!

[QUOTE=Raverboy] Knowing how status-conscious some of these girls are ... [/QUOTE] As long as you are not staying in a notorious slum you will be fine. JKT girls are jaded of posh hotels, they are much less impressed by a 4- or 5-star hotel than, say, escorts in the US or Europe. They will be more interested in what you can shell out. Many girls prefer mid-range hotels to the top ones because "securities" in top hotels often demand a bigger cut.

[QUOTE=Raverboy]I like the Kota/Mangga Besar area, sleazy as it is, for the obvious reasons - everything is available [/QUOTE] Everything, as you say (and as your handle suggests?) is available but beware of police roadblocks in that area. Mercure Rekso was my hotel for years but I lately transfered my custom to Shangri-La after I got tired of getting ripped off by cops three times a week.

[QUOTE=XXL]As long as you are not staying in a notorious slum you will be fine. JKT girls are jaded of posh hotels, they are much less impressed by a 4- or 5-star hotel than, say, escorts in the US or Europe. They will be more interested in what you can shell out. Many girls prefer mid-range hotels to the top ones because "securities" in top hotels often demand a bigger cut.

Everything, as you say (and as your handle suggests?) is available but beware of police roadblocks in that area. Mercure Rekso was my hotel for years but I lately transfered my custom to Shangri-La after I got tired of getting ripped off by cops three times a week.[/QUOTE]

We've exchanged posts and PMs before, XXL. :) Yes, everything is available and I am glad to say that in only 2-3 trips so far to JKT and each time staying in Kota I have yet to experience a roadblock. I have even walked back to my hotel on one or two occasions (at about 7 am, when any polisi would have gone home anyway). I would think that if you stay outside Kota unless you leave at 7 or 8 am from Kota in a cab you might run into them.

Like I said in my post, I was thinking of going 'upmarket' just to cuci mata. With that I would think I'd have to put up in posher digs like the Shang / Mulia, etc.

[QUOTE=XXL]Many girls prefer mid-range hotels to the top ones because "securities" in top hotels often demand a bigger cut.[/QUOTE]If you walk the girl downstairs after you are done, she won't have to worry about security in any hotel. Security only bother the girls when they walk out alone.

[QUOTE=Raverboy]I was thinking of going 'upmarket' just to cuci mata. With that I would think I'd have to put up in posher digs like the Shang / Mulia, etc.[/QUOTE]Hello indeed. Upgrading to a more expensive hotel should not decrease availability, not even where girls are concerned if the hotel has a place where you can find girls until late into the night. This applies to Meridien, Shangri-La and Mulia. Of course, the nightly walk to Stadium or Lokasari will be a thing of the past.

I haven't yet given a try to the scene across the road within walking distance from Shangri-La though (the infamous "railings"). Available females from that spot may lack ID and proper clothing to enter the Shangri palace.

[QUOTE=XXL]Hello indeed. Upgrading to a more expensive hotel should not decrease availability, not even where girls are concerned if the hotel has a place where you can find girls until late into the night. This applies to Meridien, Shangri-La and Mulia. Of course, the nightly walk to Stadium or Lokasari will be a thing of the past.

I haven't yet given a try to the scene across the road within walking distance from Shangri-La though (the infamous "railings"). Available females from that spot may lack ID and proper clothing to enter the Shangri palace.[/QUOTE]

No, perhaps I should clarify further: I am not worried about availability. I am asking from one experience in JKT when I was about to pull from CJ's, but the lady I was speaking to expressed some hesitation when I told her I was staying in Kota - seemingly harmless, I presume because of the distance/time of night/possible roadblocks, etc. She would have gone with me should I have pursued it further but that was enough for me to change my mind about her. I ended up returning empty-handed to Kota and pulled from Crown instead.

In essence my ideal would be to stay in more upmarket digs in the south, pull a more 'upmarket' FL from Red Sq., X2, etc. who would then just turn out to be a closet sleazy party girl who would not balk at the idea of accompanying me to Kota to listen to some 'techno kota'. But then of course the other option would be to revert to what I usually do, ie stay in Kota, go to a 'techno kota' disco and pull a sleazy party girl FL directly. LOL! You catch my drift now?

[QUOTE=Raverboy]... a more 'upmarket' FL from Red Sq., X2, etc. who would then just turn out to be a closet sleazy party girl who would not balk at the idea of accompanying me to Kota to listen to some 'techno kota'. [/QUOTE]Well you're in luck because you'll be amazed at how many of the girls at BATS, if they're still free towards midnight, will eagerly accept an invitation to "pergi Stadium". If you dig a bit you discover nearly all of them are closet party girls. What do you think those girls do at BATS or CJ closing time? Many head for Kota! That's why they're eager to get paid and leave at 3 in the morning rather than stay the night: to go spend the money in Kota! The only thing is that many of them, when partying, will want to do so with loud hot music ("musik kencang"), ie in a disco, rather than have sex in a room. Of course if you're in Stadium rooms are available for a quickie. For me partying in Stadium or similar places has become too dangerous. Although someone in Stadium management told me back then it was possible to rent a room for the whole night + next morning and have girls brought to me. In case of a raid I could sweat it out in the safety of my room. I don't trust such a scheme 100% though. I was once lucky: a raid began when I was with a Stadium girl in the VIP room. Stadium staff called us from downstairs to beg us to lower the music otherwise the cops could take it into their heads to seek us out.

[QUOTE=XXL]... What do you think those girls do at BATS or CJ closing time? Many head for Kota! ...[/QUOTE]

Interesting... although my question is more specific to the more 'upmarket' girls who are in that grey zone between P4P and non-P4P that I love so much about Jakarta. I'll rephrase my question:

If I want to pull these kind of chicks (the Kemang OL types):
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Would they turn their noses up at me coz I'm staying in Kota? Are they likely the types that would enjoy hitting the Kota discos?

"[QUOTE=Raverboy]Interesting... although my question is more specific to the more 'upmarket' girls who are in that grey zone between P4P and non-P4P that I love so much about Jakarta. I'll rephrase my question:

Would they turn their noses up at me coz I'm staying in Kota?"

The short answer is "yes". But that is not to say that I disagree with what has been said already in answer to your question. There are many complexities - how do you know they are "upmarket" girls when you meet them anyway? A great many girls live in accomodation far far worse than your likely Kota hotel but they still appear in BATS dressed like Paris Hilton. These girls always ask "where are you staying" as part of the process of weighing up what they can get out of you. If you are not staying at a 5* hotel they may well as you say "turn their noses up" but they may nevertheless still go with you having sought your agreement to a large sum of money! If you are staying at a 5* hotel they will either ask for even more money or they may take a longer view and not mention money at all on the basis that they can elicit lots of "presents" on the next days shopping trip.

Really upmarket girls don't go to BATS etc, except maybe in a large group with work-colleagues or whatever. Even the mid-range ones to which I think you are referring and targetting would be better picked up elsewhere than in a night club. I make no comment on the "market segment" to which the girls in the attached photos belong, some of my friends in here who have met some/all of them might have a view?

If what you are really asking is: will you get more upmarket girls by booking in to a 5* hotel I would suggest that you might - but on a return on investment basis, you would be better staying in a cheap one.

After recently trying out several places that were new to me, I decided to go back to my usual haunts this past week. Happy to report success, with nice 2-girl sessions at both Kartika (in Kota, near Stadium) and Maribaya (Hotel Melawai 6th Floor, Blok M).

KARTIKA
Walked in around 2 p.m. and asked for Cindy (age 22, cute, great service), was told she was busy, so I sat down for a drink. Sonia (30-ish Chinese-Indonesian) came over and seemed very interested in my taking her upstairs (evidently business has been slow of late). Just then Cindy showed up and gave me a big smile, so Sonia immediately proposed a 2-girl session (Sonia must have been afraid that I'd take Cindy alone).

As always, a 2-girl session at Kartika is fun because of the 2-girl soapy massage for the first 20 minutes or so. Both girls performed at their best. I had written recently that Sonia seemed to have slowed down in the service department lately, but that was not true - she gave great service this time. I still consider Cindy to be #1 at Kartika these days, for the overall combination of looks, body and service, but it was nice to see Sonia back on form again.

MARIBAYA
Stopped by Friday at 4:30 p.m. and the place was almost empty, only three guys at the bar and a bunch of bored girls. Two girls seemed very interested in me, so I chose them both.

Glad I picked both together, as each had strengths and weaknesses. Maia is around 25, great kisser, great service level, but her face was just ok-looking and her tits looked totally shot once her bra came off (yes, she has children!). The other girl, Nisa, appeared to be only 22, much cuter face, tremendous set of tits, very firm (i.e. she's never breast-fed a child) and bigger than the average Indonesian woman's breasts, but not a kisser and only so-so in the service department. Combine the two together and the overall package was good.

Both Maia and Nisa complained that they had not had customers for several days (Maia 4 days, Nisa 3 days) and I believed it once I entered each of them, as both were very tight. I had particular trouble entering Nisa, so Maia poured some baby oil on her hand and then wrapped her lubricated hand around my dick for about 30 seconds as I pumped in and out of Nisa - sort of like getting FS and a HJ at the same time. Ended up popping inside of Nisa while laying on Nisa's great tits and kissing Maia at the same time - not bad!

Only two downsides to my adventures: first, in both cases, the girls insisted on changing condoms when I switched from one girl to the other, and secondly, I realized later that having this much fun is starting to get expensive! :)

[QUOTE=Bulai69]The short answer is "yes". But that is not to say that I disagree with what has been said already in answer to your question. There are many complexities - how do you know they are "upmarket" girls when you meet them anyway? A great many girls live in accomodation far far worse than your likely Kota hotel but they still appear in BATS dressed like Paris Hilton. These girls always ask "where are you staying" as part of the process of weighing up what they can get out of you. If you are not staying at a 5* hotel they may well as you say "turn their noses up" but they may nevertheless still go with you having sought your agreement to a large sum of money! If you are staying at a 5* hotel they will either ask for even more money or they may take a longer view and not mention money at all on the basis that they can elicit lots of "presents" on the next days shopping trip.

Really upmarket girls don't go to BATS etc, except maybe in a large group with work-colleagues or whatever. Even the mid-range ones to which I think you are referring and targetting would be better picked up elsewhere than in a night club. I make no comment on the "market segment" to which the girls in the attached photos belong, some of my friends in here who have met some/all of them might have a view?

If what you are really asking is: will you get more upmarket girls by booking in to a 5* hotel I would suggest that you might - but on a return on investment basis, you would be better staying in a cheap one.[/QUOTE]

Thanks XXL and Bulai69 for your replies. I think you've hit it squarely, Bulai69.

How do I know they're upmarket girls? I'm Asian so I suppose we're a bit more 'sensitive' to these things, being the judgemental, superficial and status conscious lot we are. :D I'd like to think I can size them up as well as they can do likewise ;) How they dress, what accessories they carry, how they communicate (Jakartan ABG bahasa gaul - think Jakartan 'Valley Girl' vs. sundanese or other provincial dialects, although I'm not adept at this yet, still learning!), what job they have (I have friends in Jakarta who are part of the target 'market segment' and can provide a point of comparison, unfortunately I'm unable to ask them their opinion on the matter!), which part of town they live in... (LV bag, designer heels, the latest model hp, using babak's chauffeur for the evening, etc. are all dead giveaways), etc. etc. If one is sharp you can likely deduce a lot in about 15 mins. of conversation.

Regarding BATS, it was XXL who suggested that some of the ladies there might be inclined to take the party after-hours in Kota. Unfortunately on the night I went there I didnt make it beyond the front reception counter in the basement based on my observations on the comings and goings - not my scene. The 'market segment' I would be interested in would likely frequent Red Square, X2, DragonFly and other similar establishments in Kemang.

Anyway. Looks like I'll still be slummin' it in Kota ... LOL

[QUOTE=Raverboy]If one is sharp you can likely deduce a lot in about 15 mins. of conversation.[/QUOTE]Uhm, one should not underestimate their talent for dissembling. In my view reliable (though not infallible) tests of belonging to at least the upper middle-class is whether 1) they're ready and proud to invite you to their place 2) they can drive you back to your hotel in their own car. If they only circulate in cabs (or worse, "ojeks") or if they always have an excuse ready not to extend an invitation to see their beautiful home/apartment ...

Note that quite a few jet-set girls hang around in the infamous kota joints, including Stadium, admittedly often accompanied by boyfriends (whom you are better off not to meddle with). Megawati's son was reported to often rent a booth at Mille's to party with girls, surely not all of them girls picked from the gutter (during raids the cops knew better than to raid his booth of course). My point is, Kota is not synomymous with "low class, no beautiful people", far from it!

The reason a scene has developped in Kemang may have to do with the logistics of roadblocks on week-ends. Too much danger in Kota, so setting up a "hot" disco on the other side of town will attract custom. Of course the cops adapt quickly and extend their dragnet to catch the fish outside Kota. I haven't patronised the joints Raverboy mentions but assuming because they're in South Jakarta they attract an entirely different crowd from the Kota crowds is doubtful. To me girls have no social class. The poorest of girls can be queen if she marries the king.

[QUOTE=Raverboy]Would they turn their noses up at me coz I'm staying in Kota?[/QUOTE]
Chicks from the JKT true "elite" classes never venture north of Monas. Never. N.E.V.E.R.

Anyway if your main target is mid-to upper class freebies, you'll be much better off in Mulia or Sultan. You'll have a quick access to Plaza Senayan, which is strategically essential for daytime meetings (if you want to score among this group you'll have to DATE, and for some girls two or even three meetings are sometimes necessary), and it will definitively improve your status.

I tend towards XXL's point of view. Since the demise of Tanamur over a decade ago, Stadium is the most democratic club in Jakarta. Anyone can go there, and practically everyone does, from your own pembantu on her night off to the President's grandchildren.

Certainly wouldn't assume that every girl at Stadium is a low rent hooker, or even "a middle class piranha". You find piranhas of all social classes there: the upper classes have sharper teeth and chew faster is all.

MS - certainly sounds like you had fun. By way of warning, baby oil and condoms are a bad mix. Baby oil has a disintegrative effect on latex - you can test it by blowing up a balloon and rubbing baby oil on it. Water soluble lubricants are the go!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Maia poured some baby oil on her hand and then wrapped her lubricated hand around my dick for about 30 seconds as I pumped in and out of Nisa - sort of like getting FS and a HJ at the same time. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Stadium is the most democratic club in Jakarta.Anyone can go there, and practically everyone does, from your own pembantu on her night off to the President's grandchildren.[/QUOTE]
Jakarta is anything but "democratic". Pretentiousness is at its most garish and elites NEVER mix with other classes, especially when it comes to nightlife. If a trendy place begins to be labeled "middle-class" (as it happened for Retro in 2002) no upper-class girl will want to be seen any more there, even drop-dead.

Also the fact that an outrageously wealthy guy goes partying from time to time in Kota with some of his buddies and a dozen of high-octane semi-hoes is not representative of the JKT elites social life. As I said below, north of Monas is a no-go area for this group. It's a pure fact.

you've got other good feedback on your question from xxl and prosal, both of whom make excellent valid points. as you say, you do have an advantage over most bules if you can tune in to their speech; even i, with limited bahasa indo can tell the difference between educated girls and others. street girls use a lot of language (often bahasa sekong) which even most indonesian girls don't understand. although it's not infallible, even their english is a good guide - and i don't mean fluency, many girls are fluent in english but you can tell they've learned it in the street and who they've learned it from. maybe i should say from whom they have learned it?! education is a key point: broadly "upmarket" = educated and it's a better criterion than what they are wearing or their lv accessories which frankly, may only point to their skills in elicting cash/gifts from stupid naive bules! how many lv bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! no answers from ms please.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]You've got other good feedback on your question from XXL and Prosal, both of whom make excellent valid points...

...How many LV bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! No answers from MS please.[/QUOTE]
You're too modest! Recently I was in the LV shop at Plaza Indonesia with my significant other (buying a bag for her, incidentally) and saw a plaque on the wall there naming you a member of the "LV Customer Hall of Fame" right alongside Gorbachev and Keith Richards :)

[QUOTE=Bulai69]...Education is a key point: broadly "upmarket" = educated and it's a better criterion than what they are wearing or their LV accessories which frankly, may only point to their skills in elicting cash/gifts from stupid naive bules! How many LV bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! No answers from MS please.[/QUOTE]

LOL you guys are awesome!

It really doesnt matter how many LV bags you have ever bought, so long as the returns have been worth the investment! In the end its all the same, I reckon...

Thanks again for all the replies - I think I've got a broader perspective of things now. Looks like I will perhaps try mixing things up - a coupla nights here a coupla nights there and see where I end up... ;)

[QUOTE=Blunderer]MS - certainly sounds like you had fun. By way of warning, baby oil and condoms are a bad mix. Baby oil has a disintegrative effect on latex - you can test it by blowing up a balloon and rubbing baby oil on it. Water soluble lubricants are the go![/QUOTE]
You're absolutely right!

and yes, I knew this already, and was a bit nervous once I realized that Maia was actually using the baby oil on the condom (at first I thought she was just playing around with her hand).

Luckily, one advantage of Nisa being so tight was that it did not take me long to shoot my load once things got going good :o

B69, I did write about my exceptions in BATS. One was the girl who drove herself around in a BMW and kept bottle service there at BATS. She had rich parents.

The other was the singer/tv soap star. She actually insisted I escort her home after our first 'date', and the house near Ancol was a thing of beauty.

But yes, I think those two are outliers for sure, but the possibility exists.


[QUOTE=Bulai69]"[QUOTE=Raverboy]Interesting... although my question is more specific to the more 'upmarket' girls who are in that grey zone between P4P and non-P4P that I love so much about Jakarta. I'll rephrase my question:

Would they turn their noses up at me coz I'm staying in Kota?"

The short answer is "yes". But that is not to say that I disagree with what has been said already in answer to your question. There are many complexities - how do you know they are "upmarket" girls when you meet them anyway? A great many girls live in accomodation far far worse than your likely Kota hotel but they still appear in BATS dressed like Paris Hilton. These girls always ask "where are you staying" as part of the process of weighing up what they can get out of you. If you are not staying at a 5* hotel they may well as you say "turn their noses up" but they may nevertheless still go with you having sought your agreement to a large sum of money! If you are staying at a 5* hotel they will either ask for even more money or they may take a longer view and not mention money at all on the basis that they can elicit lots of "presents" on the next days shopping trip.

Really upmarket girls don't go to BATS etc, except maybe in a large group with work-colleagues or whatever. Even the mid-range ones to which I think you are referring and targetting would be better picked up elsewhere than in a night club. I make no comment on the "market segment" to which the girls in the attached photos belong, some of my friends in here who have met some/all of them might have a view?

If what you are really asking is: will you get more upmarket girls by booking in to a 5* hotel I would suggest that you might - but on a return on investment basis, you would be better staying in a cheap one.[/QUOTE]

On my previous visits to Jakarta I'd usually pick up a supply of Viagra/Cialis from one of those pharmacy-on-wheels - these small kiosks along one street. I believe it was near the stadium. Does anybody recall the name of the street? Or an alternative?

Appreciate the support. Visiting Jakarta Mon-Wed this week. My contact number for the meds is no longer on the mobile number I have.

[QUOTE=Draco]On my previous visits to Jakarta I'd usually pick up a supply of Viagra/Cialis from one of those pharmacy-on-wheels - these small kiosks along one street. I believe it was near the stadium. Does anybody recall the name of the street? Or an alternative?

Appreciate the support. Visiting Jakarta Mon-Wed this week. My contact number for the meds is no longer on the mobile number I have.[/QUOTE]Hehehe, sim cards expire and get changed frequently. There are many outlets now that sell viagra/cialis. If your near Mal Ambasador, there are 2 kiosk there I know of that always approach bule who are alone and offer viagra/cialis. The asking price is 240k for 4x100mg viagra, but you will get it for 200k if you just shake your head and go to walk off. You can try and haggle further, I once tried to hold out at 180 but they refused to sell.

I'm sure there are 100's of outlets that ohter mongerers know of.

Fieldy

Went to Kota 3pm after a good experience with Travel hotel the last time.

I will have to say that a 285k pricing for all and a good 70+ girl to choose from, must be one of the best deal around town today. Again price in Jakarta doesn't seems to reflect service at all! For those know Lokasari plaza, come out of the plaza, turn left and then first right at the first traffic light. Go down the road for 150mtr max and it is on your left with large open parking.

The good thing about travel is that you know why you 're there and they know why you're there. No cloth change just take your number tag and walk in. A little dark in the main hall with lots of girls. I usually walk straight past the main hall to avoid the first few mamasans and go deep inside where there are more better quality girls hidden behind near toilet where another big hall is located with different set of mama. Good system I think.

Pick a girl from many impressive choice while have a sip of bintang beer (cheap, less than 15k) Mama kept showing me girl until I agree on this white skin, big boobs, thin, very thin. My type

Went to the room, not bad setting with mirror and good lighting. Ani was great even if I don't speak much Bahasa. Don't count on the name but there's plenty to choose from don't worry

One thing about this place I found very well standardized was the BBBJ, balls lickiing and ass licking. Very soothing and no need to ask which is good.

I was quite tire after long and hard days so the little man need a lot of effort and Ani was all in to it. Lying down BJ then standing up BJ and mouth fucking her big white boobs swinging is a great sight for all men.

A tip of 100k but she earned it after a long BJ session.

It's been 3 weeks in a row and this place sure improve from a while ago. For this price and little hassle, no need to flirt around the butter fly bar.

Cheers

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[QUOTE=Bulai69]........what they are wearing or their LV accessories which frankly, may only point to their skills in elicting cash/gifts from stupid naive bules! How many LV bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! No answers from MS please.[/QUOTE]


Hmm, looks like the Nokia counter has lost an outstanding client! ;)

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Hehehe, sim cards expire and get changed frequently. There are many outlets now that sell viagra/cialis. If your near Mal Ambasador, there are 2 kiosk there I know of that always approach bule who are alone and offer viagra/cialis. The asking price is 240k for 4x100mg viagra, but you will get it for 200k if you just shake your head and go to walk off. You can try and haggle further, I once tried to hold out at 180 but they refused to sell.

I'm sure there are 100's of outlets that other mongerers know of.

Fieldy[/QUOTE]
Walk into Mal Ambasador, go up to the 2nd floor (two floors above the floor you enter on) and head over to the bridge that connects Mal Ambasador with the ITC-Kuningan building (where Carrefour is located).

Once you step down two steps onto the crossing bridge, the second stall on your right-hand side is the stall that sells Viagra/Cialis/Levitra. There are usually at least two young girls on duty who will immediately call out to you and ask you to buy the viagra, etc. They also sell some sex toys there, if I'm not mistaken.

FieldMouse is right, you should be able to bargain down to 200,000 rupiah for 4 pills, and to the best of my knowledge, this stall sells the genuine drug, not fake viagra like many of the street stalls supposedly do. I'm amazed that Draco was lucky enough to get the real stuff from a street vendor, Draco is very lucky!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]MARIBAYA
..... so Maia poured some baby oil on her hand and then wrapped her lubricated hand around my dick for about 30 seconds as I pumped in and out of Nisa ............ :)[/QUOTE]

I had a same experience at Maribaya with two girls last year. The feel is great but when I finnished and pulled out the condom was completely torn by the baby oil. Fortunately no complications. Since then I carry my own water based lubricant

NO

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]
FieldMouse is right, you should be able to bargain down to 200,000 rupiah for 4 pills, and to the best of my knowledge, this stall sells the genuine drug, not fake viagra like many of the street stalls supposedly do. I'm amazed that Draco was lucky enough to get the real stuff from a street vendor, Draco is very lucky![/QUOTE]

Why the trouble? Just go to any reputable chain pharmacy where you know (reasonably well) that you buy the real stuff, e.g. both pharmacies in the basement of Plaza Indonesia have sold me viagra and cialis that really worked.

NO

Was in Plaza Semanggi and found some great little panties, see thru nighties etc that my friend looked great in. Are there any more easy to find places that sells cheap sleazy lingerie that the girls love?

[QUOTE=Prosal]Also the fact that an outrageously wealthy guy goes partying from time to time in Kota with some of his buddies and a dozen of high-octane semi-hoes is not representative of the JKT elites social life. As I said below, north of Monas is a no-go area for this group. It's a pure fact.[/QUOTE]True. But if there is an exception, stadium is the place. But I think the so called elite group only go there after hip clubs in the south are closed

[QUOTE=Raverboy]Reminded me about a question I've been meaning to pose the Jakarta regulars:

I usually stay in the Kota/Mangga Besar area when I visit Jakarta to play. Consequently I would frequent the non-P4P clubs in that area and pull the odd FL or two. However on my next visit I'd like to try the more upmarket non-P4P clubs (Red Sq., X2, etc.). Knowing how status-conscious some of these girls are (at least amongst those that frequent the more upmarket places), would you think staying in a decent hotel but in the RLD such as Kota is going to have them turn up their noses at me?

Or maybe I should just stay in the south next time. I like the Kota/Mangga Besar area, sleazy as it is, for the obvious reasons - everything is available and the street food is excellent![/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Kota do have ibis hotel and Red top is not to low class by any means.

And to compare sari pan pacific to Red top is hands down RT is better.

That is my humble.

[QUOTE=Barson]Went to Kota 3pm after a good experience with Travel hotel the last time.

I will have to say that a 285k pricing for all and a good 70+ girl to choose from, must be one of the best deal around town today.

One thing about this place I found very well standardized was the BBBJ, balls lickiing and ass licking. Very soothing and no need to ask which is good.

A tip of 100k but she earned it after a long BJ session.

Cheers

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Yes, with 285,000 rupiahs...you will get a class of hotel room and a young gal.
I believe still the best bordell in JKT.

Not all the WG in Hotel Travel will give ass licking, and please do not overpay (tip) next time in Travel brother. 50,000 rupiahs is enough I think.

Good report Barson !

[QUOTE=Barson]
For those know Lokasari plaza, come out of the plaza, turn left and then first right at the first traffic light. Go down the road for 150mtr max and it is on your left with large open parking.

[QUOTE]
Barson post reminds me an info in Lokasari parking area, if you happen to park your car or have something to do in Lokasari plasa...actually this parking area (which located in front of hotel Prinsen Park, some drugstore and before KFC) is a place where some chinese freelance will offer themself in the afternoon til night and they have Papasan and Mamasan too.
Rate around 400,000 rupiahs per 2 hours (in their room), they rent rooms around Lokasari area. This rate is including the room.

I remember one of the WG was Lucy (she's around 38-40 right now but most of them around 25-30 yero). Some rumour said that they're from Mainland (PRC) but other said that they're from Singkawang (Kalimantan/Borneo-Indonesia)


Just keep your eyes open after you get in entrance on Lokasari Plasa.
Thanks Barson...your post reminds me an info !

cheers.

by the time i had breakfast this morning i found myself longing for release probably as a result of dreaming and fantasizing about jakarta ceweks and their juicy pussies all of last night! since i had an opportunity slot between 10 and 1130 am, what else could i do but set off for maribaya this despite having resolved to visit the mps of kota on my next mongering expedition !

i arrived just after 10 to find a single cewek, eva, sitting at the bar drinking coffee. since her face and figure were quite good, it made my task much easier- i didn't have to waste time in choosing someone else. when she undressed in the room, i saw that her body was trim and her boobs were better than the average indo. it was quite a revelation when she told me that she was thirty and had two kids.

anyway, to cut a long story short, we got down to business. although the bbbj was average, i was able to make her come twice while she sucked me and gave me a mandi cucing. it was difficult to enter her in doggy as she seemed quite dry despite having come twice. i stopped her just in time from using baby oil recalling ms's last experience here. i used to carry ky jelly earlier after seeing that the girls in kartika use saliva as lubricant but stopped doing so as the tube is bulky to be carried easily in the pocket and as most girls in alexis and malioboro seemed to carry it in their toilet bags.

anyway, i managed to enter her as she lowered herself slowly in cowboy. she wanted to speed up the pace and i had grab her thighs to stop her from time to time to stop myself from coming too soon. we switched to doggie and i was able to make her come a third time as i played with her with my hand while lodged firmly inside. but i must say that the beds in maribaya are not only a bit soft but also a bit too low for energetic fucking. moreover, the floor is usually slightly wet after the shower, so doing it doggie style while standing on the floor was quite a feat! i came soon after her and after a ten minute massage called it a day.

total damages as usual 400k +100k tip. rating: looks 8, figure 8, gfe-7 bbbj-7, fs-8. overall-8

[QUOTE=Oyenk]Yes, with 285,000 rupiahs...you will get a class of hotel room and a young gal.
I believe still the best bordell in JKT.

Not all the WG in Hotel Travel will give ass licking, and please do not overpay (tip) next time in Travel brother. 50,000 rupiahs is enough I think.

Good report Barson ![/QUOTE]I see.

Will be more careful with the tipping next time. But I can say it has been 3 weekd in a row with this ass licking act by 3 different gals that's why I thought must be new world standard!

Could be becuase I chose to go to the deep inside room next to the toilet. Good products quality, poor product placing, therefore better service?

Anyone know a place similar setting to Bats but frequent by more local men?

Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.

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[QUOTE=Nightowl1974]Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.[/QUOTE]Policy at delta is three sessions includes happy ending. This why the staff 'strongly recommend' three sessions: they want you to be happy! Not clear from your post if you paid for two sessions or three; if three, she shouldn't have asked for a tip.

Very unlikely to get more than HJ at delta.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Walk into Mal Ambasador, go up to the 2nd floor (two floors above the floor you enter on) and head over to the bridge that connects Mal Ambasador with the ITC-Kuningan building (where Carrefour is located).

Once you step down two steps onto the crossing bridge, the second stall on your right-hand side is the stall that sells Viagra/Cialis/Levitra. There are usually at least two young girls on duty who will immediately call out to you and ask you to buy the viagra, etc. They also sell some sex toys there, if I'm not mistaken.[/QUOTE]
Thats right, they sell sex toys, but yesterday I was in the basement (closer to carrefour) and went past the 2nd stall, guess what, viagra started at 200k and I bargained for 170. Same girls as 2nd floor stall, so I imagine it will be the same product not some shitty, head-ache inducing rip of the real thing. I will be going back there tomorrow so will have to pay attention how to get to the basement stall and give directions, its not on one of the main pathways, you have to twist and turn a bit to get to it. Not as big as the crossover stall, and nowhere near the variety of goodies, but viag/cialis available.

[quote=bulai69]you've got other good feedback on your question from xxl and prosal, both of whom make excellent valid points. as you say, you do have an advantage over most bules if you can tune in to their speech; even i, with limited bahasa indo can tell the difference between educated girls and others. street girls use a lot of language (often bahasa sekong) which even most indonesian girls don't understand. although it's not infallible, even their english is a good guide - and i don't mean fluency, many girls are fluent in english but you can tell they've learned it in the street and who they've learned it from. maybe i should say from whom they have learned it?! education is a key point: broadly "upmarket" = educated and it's a better criterion than what they are wearing or their lv accessories which frankly, may only point to their skills in elicting cash/gifts from stupid naive bules! how many lv bags do you think an astute fellow like me has ever bought?! no answers from ms please.[/quote]

bro, you really should have avoided that last line. even ms's response was more muted than it could have been:). i think raverboy is not necessarily looking for "elite" girls but educated non-pros. looking at the clubs he mentioned (especially x2 and dragonfly): there should be a number of college students from reasonably well off families frequenting these locations. what i have noticed is that they tend to be a bit more cliquey in kemang (i could be wrong) but more open in these locations.

i do know an indonesian college girl studying in kl. she tells me her friends here are out just for the fun of it. but if you're stupid enough to spoil the market and shower them with presents, they're hardly going to refuse. i did talk more in depth and she told me her other friends in jakarta are very similarly minded (they frequent places like x2). they are supposedly very open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (i'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once i can establish what they all look and behave like). she also tells me her sister is interested to have some fun with me too - possibly together with her - that would be a first for me (not that i mind:d)

regarding dragonfly, i have a friend (who is very smooth) and he dropped his line on a girl (whom he'd been eyeing the whole night) at 2.30am. she was mid to late 20s and a senior person in a decent sized corporation. they ended up having a very meaningful 3 hour relationship and i believe he is still in touch with her. no financial transaction - just taking care of deep biological needs;).

opportunities abound in jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions; a couple of years back, i met someone in cjs who turned down all-comers but managed to get her number. she came to meet me with her friend when i was with menteng in hard rock the next day with a friend. we went to retro and althugh she came back to mulia with me (at midnight) she could not stay as she had brought her driver - hence we were supposedly having supper. after a very wild time she promised me she would not bring her driver the next night so she could stay over. i did meet her for several trips after that but no money or gift was mentioned - although it is always assumed you pick up the dinner/drinks tab. i also did buy a few gifts (although no lv or nokia:d) there was some chanel perfume and guess apparel involved. as they say, you'll end up paying some way or another.

under the circumstances though, i would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a kota hotel would not be the best idea. at least, manhattan, park lane, grand kemang or somewhere like that would be good enough.

whilst i'm at it, i'd like to express my thanks to menteng and jad for the the last few entertaining trips. sorry i didn't get to bump into knight1001. maybe i'll get to meet another of you guys next trip (next week). b69, klguy, panya, acerboy, links and adeon, jakarta's economy is crying out for you guys.

md ii

[QUOTE=Nightowl1974]Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in.

Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right.

Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.[/QUOTE]

Bro, I can sympathise with you but there have been several reports on Delta Spa which clearly outline the situation here. I'd be the first to admit that the captains in black can be quite stunning but so are some of the girls (the trouble is you dont get to see them and dont get to choose from a line up). 450k before starting? You must have taken a VIP room. The price is all inclusive of HJ but it's advisable to tip the girls as they rely on the tips to supplement their meagre income. Your girl is correct as if you repeat, you can get more out of their service. If they like you they will give their mobile number. They may request that you come at 10pm to be the last customer and then they can leave with you after that. If you see any girls on your way in or out that are attractive, dont be shy to ask them what their Spa number is.

Btw Jad, I keep coming across a lot of girls from Subang or nearby there, I guess Rianti's mum must have been a busy lady:D.

MD II

[QUOTE=Barson]Anyone know a place similar setting to Bats but frequent by more local men?[/QUOTE]


Sounds dubious;). If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. You find some locals and Asian expats around CJs; I have seen quite a few at the spas around town and quick fix places so to speak. Other than that, I know some go for the mall-hunting sene. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there? Or is it similar to some of us in KL - we dont go for the bar scene (too risky) and end up in the spas etc; occasionally when we find some girls, we will arrange for a more discrete rendezvous or go to places where family and family friends do not frequent. I personally like to stay in the hotel room and conduct "meaningful discussions".

MD II

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Sounds dubious;). If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there?
MD II[/QUOTE]

I'd ask JAD this question. Certainly many of the places he showed me my last trip are patronized by locals, no?

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]...I think Raverboy is not necessarily looking for "elite" girls but educated non-pros...

... They are supposedly VERY open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (I'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once I can establish what they all look and behave like)...

...Regarding Dragonfly, I have a friend (who is very smooth) and he dropped his line on a girl (whom he'd been eyeing the whole night) at 2.30am. She was mid to late 20s and a senior person in a decent sized corporation. They ended up having a very meaningful 3 hour relationship and I believe he is still in touch with her. No financial transaction - just taking care of deep biological needs;).

Opportunities abound in Jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions; a couple of years back, I met someone in CJs who turned down all-comers but managed to get her number... ... We went to Retro and althugh she came back to Mulia with me (at midnight) she could not stay as she had brought her driver ...

Under the circumstances though, I would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a Kota hotel would not be the best idea. At least, Manhattan, Park Lane, Grand Kemang or somewhere like that would be good enough... [/QUOTE]

You've got it bang on, bro! That last paragraph sums up what I have gathered to be the answer to my question. Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness!

Now, if only I can find one or two "educated non-pros" (such as the types you and your friend have encountered) who are 1) closet Kota-partyers, 2) open to threesomes and 3) have lots of beautiful female friends! :D

[size=1]I'd [b][i]move[/b][/i] to Jakarta faster than you can say "lama di djakarta dong!"[/size] ;)

[QUOTE=Raverboy]Goodbye to slummin' it in Kota, hello to Kemang pretentiousness![/QUOTE]

Try a middle path. Maybe Allila in Pencenongan? Good four star kinda place, strategically close to Kota on one side but easy enough to get down south, busway and all, and classy enough not to scare too many prospects away. Used to have quite a good basement bar, might be your sort of place, don't know about now.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Try a middle path. Maybe Allila in Pencenongan? Good four star kinda place, strategically close to Kota on one side but easy enough to get down south, busway and all, and classy enough not to scare too many prospects away. Used to have quite a good basement bar, might be your sort of place, don't know about now.[/QUOTE]

Yes, 'minimalist chic' but rooms are beginning to show their wear, as I recall. Overall I enjoyed my one-time stay there - excellent buffet breakfast. My only other complaint is that the food stalls on Pecenongan near the Alila tend to be mediocre, close early and try and rip you off knowing you just walked down the ramp from Alila and onto the street. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]... B69, KLGuy, Panya, Acerboy, Links and Adeon, Jakarta's economy is crying out for you guys. MD II[/QUOTE]

Look who's talking ... missing for more than a year, and he says he misses us.

Bro, it's still once a week trips for me la, just that after getting a taste of Miss D, decided to go back to my regular KTV haunts, less entanglements (??). By the way, Bro Menteng, Mrs. E at KCB asked where you've been.

I stayed at Mulia about 3 weeks back, and decided to order a room massage. The MLs now show up with a tray containing ginger tea, and some mixed fruits, and their "new" uniform looks real CATCHY ... as in it's full of hooks/buttons/catches that it's a real challenge to even slide a finger thru. Don't know the reason behind the tray of goodies, but thought that it's to project a more professional image for them when they're in the elevator on the way up.

Anyway, she's 21 yrs old, from Bogor, and used to work in Tropical (did I get the name right? The spa behind Le Meridien). Just started her 1st month at Mulia.

Fair skinned, standing 5ft 5in, firm body, and A-cup ..... okay okay, we have to go for different varieties. Well, I liked her very much, as she was 7.5/10 in looks, so clean, fresh breath, and very, very good massage skills. So much so, that after doing my back, I told her to skip the front, and let's go for the daily special. To which she replied that she's actually not really good at sex ... to which I replied that, "I am!".

She said that its quite expensive to have sex, as the rate is Rp 1 million .... okay okay. Anyway, she undressed, let her hair down, and stood there in a lacy, turquoise matching bra and panties. Wow! She really got into it .... deep french kiss that was just so full of emotion that my toes curled, and emitted the right ooh-s and aaaahh-s when I kissed her neck, nipples, navel ... by the time I got to her pussy, it was really dribbling. Guys, the last time I had something like this while mongering was .... I can't remember.

DATY was like a feast for kings, as her juices were thick, odorless, and tasted like Grade-AA shark fins soup with just the perfect dash of vinegar added. We did it twice, and as she was dressing, she acted the little girl and complained that I had kissed away all her lipstick, and it would be obvious to her colleagues what had happened.

I did ask her when her off-day was, and so happened it was the next day ... so I invited her out. The next day, we chatted on the phone and agreed to meet at Plaza Senayan. I asked her not to show up in jeans, and she agreed. Guys, I was really looking to immerse myself in a much forgotten teenaged date, and really couldn't wait for the time to arrive.

At 7.00pm, she's waiting at Plaza Senayan, and when I met her, I was astounded! She had put on a long, slinky, black cocktail dress, a bit conservative in cut, but the effect was such that she looked like anyone of those wealthy shoppers. She immediately walked over to me, and slipped her hand around my right arm. When I found out that she had never tried Japanese food, I took her to Sushi Sei.

When we walked in to the restaurant, it was 3/4 full of mainly Japanese diners, but almost everyone turned to have a look at us. To this day, I am not sure whether it was the sight of an old guy with a sweet chick on his arm, but my ego tells me that it's because we made such a lovely couple.

I went for the works, ordering sashimi and various delectable Japanese condiments for her to try. Alas, my poor innocent gal was overwhelmed by the sophistication of the cuisine, and whispered softly in my ear, "I don't like Japanese food!"

After dinner, we walked hand-in-hand out of Plaza Senayan, while my head kept rotating, just in case Miss D was around PS herself. We ended up together in Roppongi Papa karaoke with some Indonesian friends ... where she ordered ... coffee. We sang, we danced, and I drank and drank of the night's magic.

Unfortunately, she could not follow me back to Mulia, as they are not allowed to patronize the place where they work. So, I bid her adieu, with promises of seeing each other again ringing in my ear as I laid my head on my pillow and drifted off to replay the entire night in my dreams.

On my next trip, I reserved a different hotel, and she stayed with me for 3 nights, leaving for work when I did, and then returning each night and we bonked like rabbits. I bought her some Bulgari perfume, and she hugged me when I presented it to her, and immediately searched through her purse and gave me an Rp 5,000 note. When she saw the puzzled look on my face, she said that its a custom (mitos was the word she used) that when one receives a present, one should return with a gift, else the relationship will be quarrelsome ..... aduh! I felt something dripping down my thighs, I looked down, and realised that it was my heart melting.

On that trip, I came back to the room earlier the next day, and when I opened the closet to hang my clothes, saw some ladies clothes hanging there, freshly laundered and pressed from the hotel laundry. Hmmm ... I had a previous experience of bringing someone back to the room, and she brought a suitcase of clothes to be laundered - I ended up being fleeced for the laundry bill.

So, I thought to myself, how could I, THE Panya, a man of almost half a century of existence, a sperm trail that reads like an airline (i.e. 40 cities in 22 contries across 5 continents), an esteemed member of the Mile High Club, how could I have misread the character of an innocent, that she was after all, a materialistic, opportunist???!!!! I contemplated retirement from the GFE scene at that point in time.

Well, she came back from work, and called out "Honey .... are you here?" My heart skipped a beat, as visions of happy matrimony flitted across my brain. I forced those disgusting images from my mind, and told her, "Your laundry came back." It was her turn to look puzzled, and when we went to check out the closet together, it wasn't her clothes! As it turned out, the hotel had delivered laundry to the wrong room ... how could I ever doubt her???

We have since spent the past 3 trips together, and I do look forward to my next trip next week. In order to keep up, I have been going through a concoction of Cialis, Viagra and Acer pills.

As I write this, I am taking steps to cancel my application for Permanent Residence in Thailand, and am applying for Indonesian PR ... that is, until this relationship ends ... as it surely will.

To all mongers visiting Jakarta, there's something here that you just cannot find in the anatomy of other women in other countries .. it's called the GFE-spot .. my advice is to look for it ... it's really not that hard to find in Jakarta. Sigh!

(BUT, now that MDII is back in town, I guess things will revert back to normal.)

Best,
Panya

[QUOTE=Panya]...So, I thought to myself, how could I, THE Panya, a man of almost half a century of existence, a sperm trail that reads like an airline (i.e. 40 cities in 22 contries across 5 continents)...[/QUOTE]

I wanna be you when I grow up. Can I call you papa?

[QUOTE=Nightowl1974]Ok, so I am a daft newbie. Totally new to the scene, but at least I had the sense of reading quite a bit of the posts here. Thank you all. But that did not help. I guess it all comes down to a first time is a first time and experience like all you seem to have does not come from just reading posts.

Anyways, most of the posts are about Kota. As I generally stay south Kota can be hours away. Another area that has been mentioned a few times but less enthusiastic is Gran Wijaya, but that can also be hours in bad traffic. So I asked the Silver bird driver of any places near Crowne Plaza. Delta Spa in Kuningan was the place he took me to. Got a feeling that this would be expensive when seeing all the Mercs and BMWs standing up front, but once in the lobby and this crowd of Britons came in I felt I could not walk away.

Prices start at about 300. 000 for a 2x45 min session but they "strongly recommend" a third session. This is just for the using the facilities. Cost for aroma, hot stone, shiatsu etc all come on top of this.

The friendly Britons explained a bit to me that the price is an "all in" price and no tipping required. I did not ask what all in meant but was hoping for a real all in. They also explained that you need to take their recommendations on sessions and massages or the extras would not appear. You can enjoy the facilities for as long as you want which is great and when you feel ready you walk up the stairs to the second floor to book you massage. Absolutely gorgeous, stunning, amazingly pretty and sexy girls in black skimpy outifts act as some sort of sales to try to get you to add on various services. It is damn difficult not to go along with what they recommend as, at least I not knowing the business here, was hoping it would be these heavenly angels that would massage me.

So anyways, bill before starting approx 450k. And then a couple of beers in the bar etc. When you are ready the beautiful hostessess/sales girls take you by the arm and guides you into the massage area.

Once in the room the massage girl arrived. Nowhere near the vixens out front, but pleasant and smiling. No English from her and No bahasa from my end made things rather complicated but we might have gotten something right. Massage w hot stones is really nice but oh my lord how slow this was. She was good at massage but 2 hours felt really long. Towards the end she asked if I wanted extra massage, which I did. But for that she wanted 200-300k. I had previsouly burn almost all cash so I shoed her my empty wallet which contained only 35k and she was happy with that. So she started her HJ. Tried to touch but she said that was not possible the first night. But if I came back tomorrow I would be able to touch and do whatever I wanted. That thought enough made me cum which seemed to surprise her immensly. Said I would be back the day after but the HJ was not that good and having all you guys have written here thought I could more milage for my buck elsewhere.

Total bill about 550k for a pretty good massage and a half bad HJ. Feeling ripped off.

Admittedly facilities are really nice. Clean and modern, several pools, jacuzzies, a small gym, etc etc. Massage rooms nicely lit and well decorated. So to sum up, I think I would have been satisfied thinking I was going to an upmarket spa with no extras, but expecting some special treatment and only receiving this dulled the experience a bit. Also felt cheated on that "all in" thing, there was far from "all in" for me.[/QUOTE]I have been to Delta many times (not Kuningan branch) always go for the 2 x 45min session. HJ is always included. Some touching too if you get the right girl. Only ever tipped once.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Sounds dubious;). If I read your question correctly, you want to seek where the locals go hunting? Well the locals tend to go for a different crowd than the one that hangs around BATs. You find some locals and Asian expats around CJs; I have seen quite a few at the spas around town and quick fix places so to speak. Other than that, I know some go for the mall-hunting sene. But I'm curious too - any ideas out there? Or is it similar to some of us in KL - we dont go for the bar scene (too risky) and end up in the spas etc; occasionally when we find some girls, we will arrange for a more discrete rendezvous or go to places where family and family friends do not frequent. I personally like to stay in the hotel room and conduct "meaningful discussions".

MD II[/QUOTE]Thanks mate,

I am more into lighter skin gals which is why i would go where the local are going. disco is not my type so looking for local life band hangout bar that sort of places. Basically similar to BATs but remove all us Bule..nothing dubious about that!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]

Btw Jad, I keep coming across a lot of girls from Subang or nearby there, I guess Rianti's mum must have been a busy lady:D.

MD II[/QUOTE]


Maybe she should start a coffee-shop now :D

[QUOTE=Panya] By the way, Bro Menteng, Mrs. E at KCB asked where you've been.

[/QUOTE]


Hmmm, makes me wonder! The last time we were to meet, she didn't show up. But, I'm sorry to say that I'm back in Colombia now, reminiscing the Jakarta days with you, MD, Jad, Knight a.o. :(

Ok, I've been hypnotised or am going thru mid life crisis, but recently met a hottie in Jakarta. Since then Ive invited her to Kl a couple times and shes joined me on some business trips around Asia when she can get time off from her work.
Hot playful 24 and perfect for an over 50 guy.

So heres the question of the day.. how can she avoid the fiskal payment.. at RP1.1 its another cost whether she pays or I pay.. and i still pay for the airfare of course....any thoughts appreciated!!! ( and no moving to JKTA isnt an option..hahahah)

[QUOTE=Panya]Look who's talking ... missing for more than a year, and he says he misses us.


To all mongers visiting Jakarta, there's something here that you just cannot find in the anatomy of other women in other countries .. it's called the GFE-spot .. my advice is to look for it ... it's really not that hard to find in Jakarta. Sigh!

(BUT, now that MDII is back in town, I guess things will revert back to normal.)

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]

Bro,

I'm kind of, sort of wondering what you meant by all that mush. As usual, Panya must be in love before little Panya is willing to give his best. I wholly agree that Jakarta is the GFE capital of the world but you will now have some part of the female anatomy named after you (as the GFE spot will forever now be called the P-spot after loving Panya:D). We just have to allocate the right location now - suggestions on a postcard please.

Incidentally, I have been coming to Jakarta regularly (again) since October last year. I'm touched bro that you missed me so much.

MD II

[QUOTE=Barson]Thanks mate,

I am more into lighter skin gals which is why i would go where the local are going. disco is not my type so looking for local life band hangout bar that sort of places. Basically similar to BATs but remove all us Bule..nothing dubious about that!

Cheers[/QUOTE]

Barson,

The grin should have told you it was a joke since you asked for a place frequented by local men. Chill bro

MD II

[QUOTE=Raverboy]I wanna be you when I grow up. Can I call you papa?[/QUOTE]

Raverboy,

If you want to call Panya papa, you'll have to join the queue across 40 cities in 22 countries..... :D

MD II

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]So heres the question of the day.. how can she avoid the fiskal payment.. at RP1.1 its another cost whether she pays or I pay.. and i still pay for the airfare of course....any thoughts appreciated!!! ( and no moving to JKTA isnt an option..hahahah)[/QUOTE]

Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya

[QUOTE=Panya]Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]

It's been several months since my last trip to Batam, but I do remember seeing the 'fiskal' counter just before you hit the immigration officers while exiting at Harbour Bay.

Singapore has had a jump this year in visitors from Indonesia according to the Tourist Promotion Board, maybe what youve heard is true?

[url]http://www.balidiscovery.com/messages/message.asp?Id=4045[/url]

Hello all. I am searching for a bride from Indonesia. I'm interested in Indo-Chinese or perhaps just Indonesian. Where are the marriage agencies in Jakarta?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]) B69, KLGuy, Panya, Acerboy, Links and Adeon, Jakarta's economy is crying out for you guys.

MD II[/QUOTE]

Was there before Chinese New Year and did meet up with your good self,JAD, Menteng & B69. Planning another trip soon but unable to confirm dates! I'm crying out for the ceweks in Jak!!!!!!

BTW no FR on my last trip coz of cetain reasons! Will inform you when I meet you!

Hope to see you soon in KL or Jakarta!

KL Guy

Hehehehehehe no more CCB for you eh Panya! ;P

[QUOTE=Panya]
DATY was like a feast for kings, as her juices were thick, odorless, and tasted like Grade-AA shark fins soup with just the perfect dash of vinegar added.[/QUOTE]

so what for cheap? - so you can run out on HER, too?

Go look at his posts from the Thailand section.

"Cheap" as in CHEAPEST CHARLIE

[QUOTE=Cheap Meat]Hello all. I am searching for a bride from Indonesia. I'm interested in Indo-Chinese or perhaps just Indonesian. Where are the marriage agencies in Jakarta?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
OK...

How could you afford to pay those agencies ? you could not even pay a prostitute even worst...you hurted her !

I've browsed your posts in Thailand...stay away from this thread.

Thanks Dinghy and Lama Di Bali !

[QUOTE=Oyenk]OK...

How could you afford to pay those agencies ? you could not even pay a prostitute even worst...you hurted her !

I've browsed your posts in Thailand...stay away from this thread.

Thanks Dinghy and Lama Di Bali ![/QUOTE]

Good post Oyenk...

This person has no concept of decency. He cheats woman that are just trying
to make a little money for makan.
Sick the dogs on this prick....Bali dogs...
RL

[QUOTE=Barson]Thanks mate,

I am more into lighter skin gals which is why i would go where the local are going. disco is not my type so looking for local life band hangout bar that sort of places. Basically similar to BATs but remove all us Bule..nothing dubious about that!

Cheers[/QUOTE]
The answer maybe simple. Perhaps try the one-stop entertainment in the kota..? There are a number of places. Historically it's an area popular with people of Indo-chinese background, the Indo-chinese gals generally tend to have a slightly lighter skin. -when you mention a local live band, the 3rd floor in Stadium springs to mind.

Last week, I was impressed by the current quality of supply in Blok M, the number of bule patrons seems to have gone down. It can be quicker to find a girl in the blok, than to write an FR.. but that maybe applies to the whole of jkt, always has been, but it's early twenties and it's pretty(!) what's currently on offer, cheers.

Would much appreciate a recommendation for a place where you can drink a decent kopi luwak.

I know "Kopi Luwak" when you enter Atrium via the main entrance coming of the taxi ramp- and, in theory, you could combine the jkt mall hunting experience with a cup of the world's finest gourmet coffee's. In theory- the kopi luwak in Atrium is made and tastes similar to a very common Indonesian percolator coffee -burned.

With the low price of 16,5k IDR for a cup, I honestly doubt it's the real deal and much rather prefer the 100% Arabica coffee's served in Starbucks, Gloria Jeans, etc. but if anyone knows a better place to enjoy, bring it on.. thanks.

Interconnect tariffs in Indonesia were slashed some time ago.. it caused a sudden increase of new subscribers onto the mobile networks. It started in December last year I think, before that, mobile communication could be as good, or bad, as anywhere else, but now the networks seem as congested as the jkt traffic itself.

When switched on, my hp defaults to automatic network selection and somehow it got a pref for ProXL. Base station signal strength or preferred partner selection? I don't know, but it has caused me some grief and I am now convinced ProXL is bad for my nerves.

Manually selecting the largest Indonesian provider Telkomsel the better option -if it wasn't for being run by a fellow Dutchman. I haven't tried the second largest -Indosat, but using Telkomsel, I could access my overseas voicemail and could also make overseas calls without too much difficulty.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Would much appreciate a recommendation for a place where you can drink a decent kopi luwak.[/QUOTE]

There's a kopi luwak place right next to Kemchicks in Pacific Place, not a bad cafe for hanging out in. The prices vary according to the proportion of the coffee that is kopi luwak: the 3% solution goes for something like Rp 20,000; the 100% stuff goes for something like Rp80,000.

[QUOTE=Oyenk]OK...

How could you afford to pay those agencies ? you could not even pay a prostitute even worst...you hurted her !

I've browsed your posts in Thailand...stay away from this thread.

Thanks Dinghy and Lama Di Bali ![/QUOTE]Hi Bro Dinghy and Lama Di Bali,

Thank you for the heads up on this guy, what kind of man brags about the kind of things he had done and expect us to provide him info to repeat his destruction here.
It is hard enough for us guys to take photos of the girls, having this guy would drive the girls even more cautious. I will try to help even if not a lot, but this time I will an exclusion.

Regards

Hey, I wonder if I can get $600 a pound for some of my own "special" coffee blend. :)

Gonzo Two- you're great.. thanks. Found it: [url]http://www.pacificplace.co.id/upublic/[/url] Lower ground, opening hours 9.00 to 24.00, Mon -Sun. A low 3% solution may explain, they are diluting it too much.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]The answer maybe simple. Perhaps try the one-stop entertainment in the kota..? There are a number of places. Historically it's an area popular with people of Indo-chinese background, the Indo-chinese gals generally tend to have a slightly lighter skin. -when you mention a local live band, the 3rd floor in Stadium springs to mind.

Last week, I was impressed by the current quality of supply in Blok M, the number of bule patrons seems to have gone down. It can be quicker to find a girl in the blok, than to write an FR.. but that maybe applies to the whole of jkt, always has been, but it's early twenties and it's pretty(!) what's currently on offer, cheers.[/QUOTE]

Joel,
Thanks again. Never been to Stadium but heard a lot about its legacy.Went past main road front of Stadium today on me way back from Travel Hotel(again) but was in full alert when saw many police car parking there with one empty truck usually for prisoner so stay away...

Another impressive run at Travel today... This time it's Linda, 21, from serang. Look 7/10 body 7/10 .tell you the truth ,, i wouldn't pick her from the sofa but changed my mind when mama took her for closer look and found very shapely figure and 160cm height and friendly face.

In the room, wash me up thoroughly and another good ball licking session!! probably the best so far ..very recommended. she spend good amount of time down low andd seems to be enjoying it so much that i had to tell her to stop ,capped me and when just about to ride, told her to turn around facing me feet.. great sight from where i was seeing nicely shape body from behind and view of her pumpiing me.

Finished off in doggie style and off i go happy puppy once again. Will try other places next time since this had been 4 weeks in a row for Travel.

Linda can be found in the main hell on the left once you walk into the place.

Look for sofa with girls in sexy blus sarong.. This is another thing i like about this place, each sofa has different dress code for different mama.

There are sofa with tiger stripe, tropical Sarong, sexy mini skirt, and readhot Air Asia outfit. If they add a live band, it could become good hangout place instead of hit-and-run joint.

By the way, anyone could tell me how to spot Malioboro Hotel ? Is it true they have sexy/naked dancers everyday at 6pm?

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[QUOTE=Panya]Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]


That applied if you are holding a Riau Island Passport for Bintang, Batam or any of those island. Otherwise, it"s Rup 500k which mean 50% cheaper then flying from the other ports.

Medan likewise, Medan passport needed.

Cheers

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok, I've been hypnotised or am going thru mid life crisis, but recently met a hottie in Jakarta. Since then Ive invited her to Kl a couple times and shes joined me on some business trips around Asia when she can get time off from her work.
Hot playful 24 and perfect for an over 50 guy.

So heres the question of the day.. how can she avoid the fiskal payment.. at RP1.1 its another cost whether she pays or I pay.. and i still pay for the airfare of course....any thoughts appreciated!!! ( and no moving to JKTA isnt an option..hahahah)[/QUOTE]


Like I mention below.

Fly to Batam = About Rup 800k return. Book early cheaper.
Taxi to ferry terminal : - Sin 10
Ferry to Sin : About Sin 30 plus
Fiskal : Rup 500k.

Then fly Air Ais to KL?

Not sure if it is cheaper, I know many Singaporean take this route and also Indonesian. Warning though, the q at immigration in Singapore is very long on Fri. Special counter for Singaporen though.

Hope above helps.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]
Manually selecting the largest Indonesian provider Telkomsel the better option -if it wasn't for being run by a fellow Dutchman. I haven't tried the second largest -Indosat, but using Telkomsel, I could access my overseas voicemail and could also make overseas calls without too much difficulty.[/QUOTE]
Joel Goodsen...

A friend of mine in JKT happens to be a Project Manager of major contractor which focus on In Building Connect (IBC)...many projects his office has accomplished (Telkomsel, ProXL, Indosat and others). He said that Indosat has very complicated conditions to build...in which made a very good connections not only on IBC but outdoor project as well.

FYI, I also a Telkomsel user.

[QUOTE=Panya]

As I write this, I am taking steps to cancel my application for Permanent Residence in Thailand, and am applying for Indonesian PR ... that is, until this relationship ends ... as it surely will.

To all mongers visiting Jakarta, there's something here that you just cannot find in the anatomy of other women in other countries .. it's called the GFE-spot .. my advice is to look for it ... it's really not that hard to find in Jakarta. Sigh!

(BUT, now that MDII is back in town, I guess things will revert back to normal.)

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]

GFE,

Just wondering, is there real difference between Indo and Thai girls? They both seem to play the same game of GFE, love and behind our back seeing other guys giving us all kind of reasons why she cannot see you this week or a particular night.

Victim.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]I tend towards XXL's point of view. Since the demise of Tanamur over a decade ago, Stadium is the most democratic club in Jakarta. Anyone can go there, and practically everyone does, from your own pembantu on her night off to the President's grandchildren.

Certainly wouldn't assume that every girl at Stadium is a low rent hooker, or even "a middle class piranha". You find piranhas of all social classes there: the upper classes have sharper teeth and chew faster is all.[/QUOTE]

Totally agreed.

Rich girls from Kemang goes there after the club closes in Kemang to enjoy Music Selatan (South Music) which is loud but slower then Music Kota which is loud and fast like in Sand, crown, Sydney 2000 etc.

U find these girls only around 3-4 am....

Stadium music goes very slow for the drug to take their effect on the user and they are at their best only at 4 am....... Got a DJ friend there.

Cheers

[QUOTE=XXL]Uhm, one should not underestimate their talent for dissembling. In my view reliable (though not infallible) tests of belonging to at least the upper middle-class is whether 1) they're ready and proud to invite you to their place 2) they can drive you back to your hotel in their own car. If they only circulate in cabs (or worse, "ojeks") or if they always have an excuse ready not to extend an invitation to see their beautiful home/apartment ...

Note that quite a few jet-set girls hang around in the infamous kota joints, including Stadium, admittedly often accompanied by boyfriends (whom you are better off not to meddle with). Megawati's son was reported to often rent a booth at Mille's to party with girls, surely not all of them girls picked from the gutter (during raids the cops knew better than to raid his booth of course). My point is, Kota is not synomymous with "low class, no beautiful people", far from it!

The reason a scene has developped in Kemang may have to do with the logistics of roadblocks on week-ends. Too much danger in Kota, so setting up a "hot" disco on the other side of town will attract custom. Of course the cops adapt quickly and extend their dragnet to catch the fish outside Kota. I haven't patronised the joints Raverboy mentions but assuming because they're in South Jakarta they attract an entirely different crowd from the Kota crowds is doubtful. To me girls have no social class. The poorest of girls can be queen if she marries the king.[/QUOTE]


There are now as many road block in Kemang and even Cilandak and Pondok indah as it is in Kota.

So we always take the highway back and exit somewhere we can go back via the small lanes......


Cheers

[QUOTE=Oyenk]Joel Goodsen...

A friend of mine in JKT happens to be a Project Manager of major contractor which focus on In Building Connect (IBC)...many projects his office has accomplished (Telkomsel, ProXL, Indosat and others). He said that Indosat has very complicated conditions to build...in which made a very good connections not only on IBC but outdoor project as well.

FYI, I also a Telkomsel user.[/QUOTE]
Oyenk, thanks.. dank je. Does this mean that Indosat may have the better connectivity within buildings? That's quite interesting.. What happened to me was this, I didn't tell I was in Jakarta and my hp had defaulted to ProXL.

Coming down the escalator in Atrium with a latest mall 'conquest', may not be the best time to answer your phone, so I had it diverted to voicemail. I thought, but the person trying to call me presumed I was in Australia, got the message that the number was unreachable, spoken in Indonesian "Nomor yang anda.. coba beberapa saat lagi, atau tekan satu etc.."

I still don't know how I managed to explain this, but did. Years of visiting prostitutes probably saved me..? Regard it as an investment in our future.. Changing the network selection to Telkomsel, made it thankfully possible to make and receive overseas calls again, until my mobile was switched on and off and defaulted, again, to ProXL -same probs.. manually selecting Telkomsel resolving it, cheers.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Oyenk, thanks.. dank je. Does this mean that Indosat may have the better connectivity within buildings? That's quite interesting.. What happened to me was this, I didn't tell I was in Jakarta and my hp had defaulted to ProXL.

Coming down the escalator in Atrium with a latest mall 'conquest', may not be the best time to answer your phone, so I had it diverted to voicemail. I thought, but the person trying to call me presumed I was in Australia, got the message that the number was unreachable, spoken in Indonesian "Nomor yang anda.. coba beberapa saat lagi, atau tekan satu etc.."

I still don't know how I managed to explain this, but did. Years of visiting prostitutes probably saved me..? Regard it as an investment in our future.. Changing the network selection to Telkomsel, made it thankfully possible to make and receive overseas calls again, until my mobile was switched on and off and defaulted, again, to ProXL -same probs.. manually selecting Telkomsel resolving it, cheers.[/QUOTE]
Joel Goodsen...Graag gedaan.

Yes, Indosat probably has better connectivity in building.

Your experiences in Atrium Senen, I presumed that ProXL has not covered this area better. About voicemail I believe you may change the language to English (or you may even record your own voice)...I think all of the provider support these.
I heard many good overseas experiences for Telkomsel.

cheers.

Well guys. I've been in Jakarta for 3 days and let me tell you I have never had so little pussy here in asia. I haven't had sex in over 2 days! First time I got a fuck out of a girl from jalan jaksa, where I stay in a 50, 000 rp fan room. And let me tell you, jalan jaksa is no place to find pussy.

I got sick and tired of not finding any girls here, so I asked an ojek to drive me around looking for girls. He drove me around, saw some girls hanging out on the streetside. One girl asked for 700, 000 for LT, most wouldn't go lower than 400, 000. WTF! I'm certainly not used to these high prices, especially coming here from Pattaya. I told them I wouldn't pay more than 300, 000 LT, as 400k+ is simply too much for this cheap charlie. I managed to find a ugly woman to go for 300, 000, but after she got back to my room, she decided it'd be funny to make me think I'd agreed to ST for 300, 000. I told her to fuck off, and practically kicked her out of my room. I'm just not going to put up with that kind of crap here.

I'm trying to find a source of good, cheap pussy here in Jakarta. But it seems to be difficult. I know the local guys don't pay such prices. Otherwise, most Indonesians would be virgins. I think there are some slums up in North Jakarta where street girls will go for far less. Anybody know where I can get some cheap sex here? I'm so sex starved here! Arghhh!

Thanks guys coz I've been looking for a place to drink this coffee too!

KL Guy

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Gonzo Two- you're great.. thanks. Found it: [url]http://www.pacificplace.co.id/upublic/[/url] Lower ground, opening hours 9.00 to 24.00, Mon -Sun. A low 3% solution may explain, they are diluting it too much.[/QUOTE]

Bros,

I'm going for my 3rd visit to Jakarta next month. I'm checking in to Ciputra Hotel at Tropicana (if I'mnot mistaken. Near Ciputra). I'm intrigued about mall pick-up ladies but I'm not sure where. Maybe bros here can give me some pointers on a sure-fire pick-up spots? Oh yeah, I also know about Blok M but not really wanting to travel that far. I only got 3 days & I'm actully on a business trip (tight schedule).

Appreciate you pointers.

Thanks

JAKARTA, INDONESIA -- Chastity belts, which went out of fashion with knights in shining armor and damsels in distress, are making a comeback in the massage parlors of East Java.

More.. here- Los Angeles TIMES April 27,2008

[url]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/asia/la-fg-chastity27apr27,1,4376328.story[/url]

This is the first time i've written for a long time, been busy. Anyway, here's a girlfriend of mine looking to get it on with several horny young guys. I started this back in December but then got caught up in other stuff but she's still up for it! As i'd rather keep this kind of action out of my immediate circle of friends, i thought i'd put it out here and see who's interested. Drop me a private message.

Traveler 1234, i told you i'd put the pics up (but i didn't expect it to take 4 months!)

[QUOTE=Master Diver II] She tells me her friends here are out just for the fun of it. I did talk more in depth and she told me her other friends in Jakarta are very similarly minded (they frequent places like X2). They are supposedly VERY open to the idea of threesomes and foursomes or more (I'm still doing research on this and will call some fellow recreationers in once I can establish what they all look and behave like).
MD II[/QUOTE]
I can vouch for the fact that there are freebie professional women in Jakarta (the kind with day-jobs and salaries) who are enthusiastic about 3somes. In fact I have had multiple different sets of 3somes over the past few months at the total cost of several good bottles of wine and room service snacks. Better still, I have 3 different fuck-buddies in Jakarta who have been pestering me to find other women for them to play with. Isn't Indonesia wonderful ? . . . ear-to-ear grin!

On the other hand, apparently many of the wanita yg biseks (bi-ladies) are poseurs, hoping to impress prospective boyfriends with their open-mindedness. The following couple of sentences are a verbatim quote from an email that a hot 30-something friend who is a senior engineer sent to me this week. She had asked me to find women for us to fuck together, and I replied (naturally) with the photos of the other two ladies who have made similar requests of me. Score an approval from my engineer friend on both women proposed, but with this guidance for me (grin). Her words are in quote marks inside the brackets that follow:

["but please make sure.. if we have 3some, she is not only receiving.. but she have to give as well.. get boring with story that a girl want to try to be lick by other girl , enjoying receiving pleasure, but tidak mau giving.."]

Why yes, ma'am - that sounds completely reasonable to me. Ahh, the frustrations of the true bi-seks wanita di Indonesia . . .

Great posts, gentlemen. Always a pleasure to read the Jakarta thread.

- MPH

[QUOTE=Animal 23]
Traveler 1234, i told you i'd put the pics up (but i didn't expect it to take 4 months!)[/QUOTE]

Too bad I'm on her 'non-qualifed list' but I'm sure others will be bombing you with pm. Good luck.

I am another dreaded first time poster. Had a subscription for a couple of years but not visited Jakarta for far too long so nothing to say. This forum has been the only way I can keep up with all thats goings on. I've had multiple visits since the mid 80's and lived there for 6 years in the 90s but had few chances to visit since then. But I'm visiting in early May and have 9 days on my own before I have to move on. The visit is part holiday and part business and I have an interview for a job. 2+ years in Jakarta. Yeh!

Two questions please

After a few days in Jkt I fancy a visit to the beach, possibly Carita or Pagandaran via Bandung. Many a fruitful evening spent in the Maribu (? ). I've not seen any reports on entertainment/action possibilities in either resort and I've searched. Any thoughts or other alternatives?

I always drove myself in Jkt and Java when not on business. Is it still safe to drive yourself and any recommended local car hire companies?

If anything happens thats interesting I promise I will post a report; but if it's VERY interesting I might keep it to myself.

Cheers,

BJ

I got a few pm after my last report and i thought i better qualify a few things so i don't waste (y)our time. I put all this in my thread last december but here it is again. My girlfriend is not interested in Indonesian guys or older (or too young) guys (sorry but that's the way it is). Thirty something bule guys are fine. She wants to take a look at you first also.

She wants to try some lesbo action too so there could be another girl(s). The point being that she wants to try a triple penetration, double pussy and maybe even double anal so if sharing a hole is a problem, don't bother replying.

We're not shy but we're not weird either so no sickos please.

Nothing is gonna happen until we're sure all is safe for everyone involved.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]I can vouch for the fact that there are freebie professional women in Jakarta (the kind with day-jobs and salaries) who are enthusiastic about 3somes. [/QUOTE]The reason they go for 3somes is not so much because they're wicked. It's because they feel safer being with a friend in a stranger's hotel room than they do on their own.

If I stay in South Jakarta not far form the Republika newspaper, where's the nearest p4p action? Does South Jakarta have any "fun" areas?

thanks,
V_be

[QUOTE=Vahaza Be]If I stay in South Jakarta not far form the Republika newspaper, where's the nearest p4p action? Does South Jakarta have any "fun" areas?

thanks,
V_be[/QUOTE]


Blok M is in South Jakarta and all the fuve star hotels having their pubs which include, Tiga Pulu, CJ's, BATS etc are all located in South Jakarta. You could hit the Bok M pubs and have your share of fun. Lots of info in the threads. Just check it out

Cheers

[QUOTE=John Aldrich]Blok M is in South Jakarta and all the fuve star hotels having their pubs which include, Tiga Pulu, CJ's, BATS etc are all located in South Jakarta. You could hit the Bok M pubs and have your share of fun. Lots of info in the threads. Just check it out

Cheers[/QUOTE]
much obliged!
cheers,
V-be

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]I can vouch for the fact that there are freebie professional women in Jakarta (the kind with day-jobs and salaries) who are enthusiastic about 3somes. In fact I have had multiple different sets of 3somes over the past few months at the total cost of several good bottles of wine and room service snacks. Better still, I have 3 different fuck-buddies in Jakarta who have been pestering me to find other women for them to play with. Isn't Indonesia wonderful ? . . . ear-to-ear grin!

- MPH[/QUOTE]

It is indeed wonderful, I had a girl whose friend was pestering her to have a foursome ('double date' she called it) as I understood it she and her boyfriend and my girlfriend and I would all meet up for an afternoon at a hotel and get it on, she seemed to think that it would involve us doing it to our respective partners at the same time but no swapping. However I fancied her mate so I was fairly confident we could soon change that arrangement, damn thing is that my bird didn't fancy her bloke much so it was called off.

Anyway that's not the most interesting proposition. Last year I was seeing a very cute girl who worked for some financial company in Thamrin, I met her crossing the street and we clicked straight away. She had a Dutch boyfriend but was keen to have a bit of a fling on the side with me. We met up a few times and I have to say she was the nearest thing to a nymphomaniac I have ever met, she was an absolute animal in the sack, she just couldn't get enough, demanding it every which way and then insisting every time in me finishing off in her mouth and she sucking and swallowing like she was dying of thirst. To be perfectly frank she wore me out a bit. It turns out you can get a bit too much of a good thing and with her it was beginning to get to be too much so I quietly let her drop.

A few months later she got in contact again and asked to meet me for coffee, I agreed but wasn't that keen as I didn't particularly want to start it all up again. Anyway as we got chatting she admitted that she really was very keen on sex (yeah, sweetheart I'd noticed) and that as she had reached the ripe old age of 25 she felt she really wanted to explore all aspects of her sexuality, pretty much anything. Although she was a little cautious but not utterly dismissive of anal her main desire was to try it on with a girl, well she had my attention at this stage and then she explained what was really on her mind, you see there were two blonde bule girls about her same age whom she knew from a cafe she frequented in Kemang and both of whom were angling to have an affair with her.

She took out her handphone and showed me their pictures, two actually quite attractive girls in their twenties. Her problem was that despite being very keen to try it out she was actually still a little bit shy about the whole idea and this is where I came in. She trusted me and as I was also a bule maybe I could come along for the first couple of sessions just to put herself at ease and that I wouldn't have to do anything but just be in the same room to help her relax.

What did I think? She asked.

I think my precise answer was something along the lines of "ugh, um, er yes please, gulp" as I tried to discreetly mop up the puddle of drool that was leaking out of my mouth on to the cafe table but I spotted the flaw in her plan straight away. The girls, there wasn't a chance they'd want to have some 40 year old bloke in the room along with them. I explained this to her and she was perplexed, why not? It's not like I was a local guy, surely they wouldn't mind a bule guy coming along, no chance I replied, they'll never agree to it. However I agreed to her idea (unsurprisingly) and told her to check it out with the girls but that I doubted very much that they'd agree.

I never heard from her again so I assume my hunch was correct. If any of you guys know some blonde bule girl in Kemang (hangs around the Star Deli I think) who seems to be inordinately close to a very cute, slim, pert Indonesian girl, well keep an eye on them and just imagine what goes on when they're at home.

[QUOTE=XXL]The reason they go for 3somes is not so much because they're wicked. It's because they feel safer being with a friend in a stranger's hotel room than they do on their own.[/QUOTE]
I agree with XXL about some of the wanita preferring 3somes for the safety factor. But I can't resist using the dictionary.com definition #9 (look it up yourself) that wicked also means wonderful . . . as in "Louis Armstrong played a wicked trumpet" (grin).

So even when the ladies are both sharing their pussies with you because they want back-up the first time they meet a stranger . . . and yes, this is particularly true of women who hunt in pairs on AFF . . . they still are being wicked fucks; as in wonderful, great, deeply satisfying. You better believe it!

When the reason for double-teaming a guy is safety in numbers, there is less chance that the girls will lick each other, but I don't actually require that variation in order to fully enjoy two pussies at the same time (grin again).

I have two stories - both pairs of women that I met on AFF - along these lines. The first couple, consisting of an early-20's borderline fat girl (really tight pussy though), and a mid-30's lovely sex-fiend, fucked me practically to death the first time. Then both ladies made arrangements to see me individually, having satisfied themselves that I wasn't a creep. But all of us enjoyed the 3-way fuck-fest so much that after one-on-ones, we got back together for another round of double-the-pleasure.

These two were especially excellent because they let me fuck them both with the same condom . . . as in both on their elbows and knees . . . asses high in the air while I counted off 20 strokes in one and then switched to the other. They had a little pool going on which one I would cum in. Wicked fun (full smile).

The second pair from AFF started as a single girl who somehow had a serious case of the hots for me (I'm fit and friendly, but really I am nothing special - just good karma I suppose). She was evidently worried though, so she rang me to ask if she could bring a friend with her when we met. Well, what would YOU have said ? The friend turned out to be maybe a 6 while my main target was perhaps a 7+, or a marginal 8 (lovely enough). We all got naked and they sucked each others breasts while I took turns fucking them both (changing condoms each time - frown). But after I came the first time, the friend said "I go now, yah?", and her hotter partner stayed all night.

So XXL is absolutely right about the safety angle. But 2 pussies together is still wicked fun, no matter what definition you prefer.

[QUOTE=Dorman]It is indeed wonderful, I had a girl whose friend was pestering her to have a foursome ('double date' she called it) [/QUOTE]
OK, I can't claim the pleasure of having personally experienced the story that follows, but if one of you lucky barstards is the man in question, then I want your autograph. How do you "do" this ?

To set this up, I have a friend - 30-something and reasonably hot - who is recently divorced and has been pestering me to fix her up with another woman to play with. I wrote about another side of this story earlier, but this particular lady rejected both of my "other" bi-babe friends as "too old". She somehow has a fetish for really young girls. Hmmmm . . . are any of you blushing now ?

So last Friday, she texted me to wish her luck because she was having her first 3some and she was nervous about it. What follows is her verbatim chat description of what happened. It turned out to be a 4some - of the best possible kind. No scratch that - of the "second best" possible kind. The best possible kind would require my personal participation as the male member of the group (grin).

I will cut right to the chase - of course I altered the chat transcript to disguise our messenger handles.

BEGIN CHAT EXCERPT:

Her: girls are so young.. (2 girls)
Her: and 1 guy.. he's my friend
Me: That's interesting . . . so 1 guy and 3 girls ? Did the two girls know each other before . . . or first time for them to meet each other when they met you ?
Her: 2 irls know each other
Her: 18yo & 23yo.. hot & yummy..
Her: but too much gigling..
Her: they're not bi.. they dont want to kiss each other or i kiss.. so lucky my friend in one nite he fuck 3 gitrls.. hahaha
Her: i did lick one of the gul & she like it..
Her: when my friend lick me.. I lick her.. & she moan full extacy.. but the other one hiding in the bathroom.. so funny.. what a pity..

END CHAT EXCERPT:

Can anyone say "Starfish" (grin again). So I am still in good shape here. Now that my friend has been "stiffed" so to speak, without the full flavor of being licked while she tastes pussy also, she is more interested in re-visiting the idea of a full-on lick-fest with one of my other friendly female cunnilinguists. Stay tuned - I will brag about it here if it happens. Definitely! Meanwhile, check the pen-pals thread in the Philippines. I had the hottest 3-some in memory there recently, and I plan to post about that one day soon. Pity that my work doesn't take me to Manila more often.

Great story, Dorman. Sorry that it didn't have a happy ending for you (yet). I'm rooting for you to pull it off still.

Panya,

I've always stayed at the Mulia but never bothered taking up the room massage service, thinking that I'd probably be served by some ""hasbeens", that would at best offer an overpriced HJ.

Do they really offer extras, or could it be that only you had managed it (going by your legendary reputation)? And am I wrong to presume that they are over the hills type?

Cheers,

Hispatetek

[QUOTE=Hisaptetek]Panya,

I've always stayed at the Mulia but never bothered taking up the room massage service, thinking that I'd probably be served by some ""hasbeens", that would at best offer an overpriced HJ.

Do they really offer extras, or could it be that only you had managed it (going by your legendary reputation)? And am I wrong to presume that they are over the hills type?

Cheers,

Hispatetek[/QUOTE]Hispatetek,

I can vouch for this, I stayed in the Mulia for the two weeks leading up to Easter. On the last afternoon before an evening flight I had to get over my boredom and ordered an in house massage.

As described the ginger tea and condiments werer left on the tray as I was given a very competant massage.

I cannot now remember her name and thought that she was probably a 7. I like them slim and she was a little larger than my normal choice but firm.

On turning over and being offered FS for 1million, I sensibly took the hand job at 500k but when i started working on her she became so excited that this turned into a half-price FS.

She was so enthusiastic and we both really got into it enthusiastically to the point that she was running down the hall afterwards having gone 20mins over time.

A thoroughly enjoyable experience.

Doggage

Panya,

You are right Bro. But for Batam and Medan residents only.

Fiskal by sea is Rp.500K. Fiskal by lands should be cheaper: Malaysia, Papua New Guinea and East Timor.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=Panya]Heard before that connexions from Batam-Spore, and Medan-Penang are fiskal-free for Indonesians, apparently to promote cross-straits economic cooperation or due to some historical links. Can anybody confirm whether this is true? May be too much of a hassle, though.

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]...Opportunities abound in Jakarta and we'd be foolish not to keep an open mind and not make assumptions...

...Under the circumstances though, I would assume that you dont necessarily have to stay in a top notch hotel, but maybe a Kota hotel would not be the best idea...[/QUOTE]

I'm typing from a wartel/internet cafe in Atrium Mall Senen where the connection is painfully slow but fortunately I have a vantage point of the cinema and food court. Apparently its closing soon so I'll keep this short and sweet.

Pulled 2 ladies from Red Square last night. One of them claims to be an ex-"model dancer" and the other I was told, is her ex-boss who runs a model agency of sorts (!) and travels the Malaysia/Singapore/JKT circuit for work. Interesting stuff but I didnt probe further. From the moves on the dancer I'd believe it but the 'model' part - I dunno. Both seemed quite pleased at my suite in a modest 3-star Kota hotel.

I merely wanted to mention an interesting comment made by the 'model-dancer' when I mentioned I liked going to Crown. She said '... but its not your class..." (!) How she deduces that if I can afford Rp. 75,000 martinis at Red Square puts me above those that go to techno kota discos is beyond me! Oh by the way, in her words Red Square is "not so high class" and X2 is "high class" (?!?!)

I'm learning lots this trip. Apparenly there are clear distinctions on who goes where and hangs out with who, bringing to mind one poster's comments on how girls from selatan do not venture north of Monas. More later.

[QUOTE=Raverboy]I'm typing from a wartel/internet cafe in Atrium Mall Senen where the connection is painfully slow but fortunately I have a vantage point of the cinema and food court. Apparently its closing soon so I'll keep this short and sweet.
.[/QUOTE]
Hi Raverboy...

I know this internet cafe (almost Atrium's rooftop), not only the connection was slow but also all the computers are old...

cheers.

I seem to have lost some of the forum's functions.

How do I check when my subscription expires/expired?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Raverboy] Oh by the way, in her words Red Square is "not so high class" and X2 is "high class" (?!?!)[/QUOTE]

That sounds like a debatable point. I think X2 is a bit looser, better place to go later at night, might, ahem, be more interesting for someone with a handle like "Raverboy". Or maybe I just got lucky and fell in with the right crowd on the night. "High class"? Well, certainly a lot of girls there who are mainly there to have fun and may well be able to pay for it themselves. But not filled with silly young rich kids, either. Bit of a mix.

Dorman,

You think, ugh, err, the bule girl(s) would mind the presence of a non-bule guy? If not, I'd like to volunteer!

[QUOTE=Raverboy]

I merely wanted to mention an interesting comment made by the 'model-dancer' when I mentioned I liked going to Crown. She said '... but its not your class..." (!) How she deduces that if I can afford Rp. 75,000 martinis at Red Square puts me above those that go to techno kota discos is beyond me! Oh by the way, in her words Red Square is "not so high class" and X2 is "high class" (?!?!)

I'm learning lots this trip. Apparenly there are clear distinctions on who goes where and hangs out with who, bringing to mind one poster's comments on how girls from selatan do not venture north of Monas. More later.[/QUOTE]

I really like to know more as I just realize my GF like to go to X2 and also CJ??

I wonder why,,, she say she like the music??

Sigh

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]That sounds like a debatable point. I think X2 is a bit looser, better place to go later at night, might, ahem, be more interesting for someone with a handle like "Raverboy". Or maybe I just got lucky and fell in with the right crowd on the night. "High class"? Well, certainly a lot of girls there who are mainly there to have fun and may well be able to pay for it themselves. But not filled with silly young rich kids, either. Bit of a mix.[/QUOTE]

Sounds good. But that will be for next time... Did you go alone or were you introduced to the 'right crowd'?

[QUOTE=Raverboy]Did you go alone or were you introduced to the 'right crowd'?[/QUOTE]

Went with a mixed group, expats and locals.

I was thinking about that the other day: if you are a bule and trying to pick up in a place which isn't totally bule-orientated, it usually works well to go out with an Indonesian friend. It seems to work well for both parties: girls figure that a bule with an Indonesian friend has been around Jakarta long enough to know the score and not to be scary. And then they figure that an Indonesian with a bule friend is probably more cosmopolitan and richer than average. I don't know, but it seems to work better than a pack of bules only.

Menteng,

How are you doing my mongering buddy? How is action in Medellin?

I called Ms. T a couple weeks ago. She asked me to extend her regards to you.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=Menteng]Dorman,

You think, ugh, err, the bule girl(s) would mind the presence of a non-bule guy? If not, I'd like to volunteer![/QUOTE]

I would imagine they don't want any men there at all Menteng ol' buddy.

How are you by the way? Have you been to the new D's Place yet?

Hi fellow brothers,

I will be visiting Jakarta for only 2 nights in the coming 2 weeks time.

I will be staying at Central Jakarta, & most likely will spend my evening time some way near block M.

Heard about the massage center at Melawai 6th floor.

A few questions to ask :)

1) what is the damage per hour for massage?

2) is ST allowable ? If yes, how much will it be & what are the services provided?

Any more nice places at Block M area for ST?

i tried this place recently.

the lady at the reception desk proposed the massage option. but i had to be rather explicit to make sure i got the fs session + massage session. a guy (the boss? ) sat next to her said "i see, you want the 2 items". i think that 's what most of the clients ask but i think they were cautious as they didn't know me. i was told by my "therapist" that there were not many bule "datang disini".

for the fs, another receptionist asked me to choose among 6 or 7 "freelancers" as they call them. not a great choice.

i opted for tania, 23 yo, nice face, firm body. we went to a rather lousy room upstairs and stayed 45 mn. poor bj but very enthiusiastic when i went into her. she even asked me why i popped so early (first time a girl tells me that, is it serious doctor? ).

after that i was taken to another floor for a 1h30 mn free massage. no choice offered, the lady is sent by the "management" but i think that if you know the number you want you can ask for it. rita or rida (? ) was her name.

really good massage. at the end she offered a fs for 300 k. i declined (tired and no real privacy massage rooms). i got a hj instead, for 100 k.

total damage costs: 250 for fs + 50 tip + 159 for the room + 100 for the hj = 559 k. massage session is free, offered by the house after fs session.

concerning a massage parlour called jaspa located within mal ambassador, has anyone already tried it?

what can we expect and is there any recommendation for a therapist "more effective" than others?

thanx.

Hi everyone. Next days I have a business trip to JK.

I am a strange. I like BBBJ. Haha.

So. Have anyone can help me

Give me a suggest which spa or massage. Offer good BBBJ. And price?

Tks first

[quote=xsjoe]concerning a massage parlour called jaspa located within mal ambassador, has anyone already tried it?

what can we expect and is there any recommendation for a therapist "more effective" than others?

thanx.[/quote]try jaspa a few times recently,for massage is 100k something.always try soft lady rather than med or strong,bicoz less strong more slim.usually they ask you take off your short,if you did,she will expect you have hj later. never try bbbj,but for second time you can ask her going out.

for hj they always ask 300k,but 100k can be deal.

recommend diana/nia/hany.

In Thailand many places where men and woman can have a shared massage. That sometimes leads to interesting scenario'. S. With happy endings for both. So I have a JKTA trip soon and one possible activity with my horny gf is to take her to a joint massage place. Where we can get massage side by side. But with massage attendants that maybe would give me hand job and maybe give her a nice fingering. Don't know if she would like it. But I'm thinking she might. Anyone know where? Recommendations please.

[QUOTE=Amoboy]Hi everyone. Next days I have a business trip to JK.
I am a strange. I like BBBJ. Haha. So. Have anyone can help me

Give me a suggest which spa or massage. Offer good BBBJ. And price?
Tks first[/QUOTE]
If you have never had a BBBJ before, Amoboy - then you ARE a strange.

But if you HAVE had BBBJ's before - anywhere - then I suggest you post a few field reports first. Only then ask a question like this one.

But actually, friend - the answers to all of your questions are easily available on earlier pages of this thread. Don't be lazy - read and remember. And after your visit - post a report.

[QUOTE=Amoboy]Hi everyone. Next days I have a business trip to JK.

I am a strange. I like BBBJ. Haha.

So. Have anyone can help me

Give me a suggest which spa or massage. Offer good BBBJ. And price?

Tks first[/QUOTE]You can get them free in your car. No need to pay. Just tell the taxi driver to drive to Taman Lawang and park there when you see a skirt standing by the road.

[QUOTE=Kt Lover] Heard about the massage center at Melawai 6th floor.

A few questions to ask :)

1) what is the damage per hour for massage?

2) is ST allowable ? If yes, how much will it be & what are the services provided?

Any more nice places at Block M area for ST?[/QUOTE]

ST is certainly "allowable" at Maribaya at Melawai on the 6th floor. Indeed, that is what they specialize in. In fact, if you actually want a massage as well, better to ask the girl if she can do it - not all of them actually can give a good massage, although they usually try to make up for it in other ways. If you want LT, you should make friends with the girl, get her number, and meet her after work: works out better for everyone.

The cost is Rp 400,000. Some people tip, some don't: it's not quite like Kota, where not leaving a tip will get the same kind of response as not tipping a cabbie or waiter in New York.

[quote=hisaptetek]do they really offer extras, or could it be that only you had managed it (going by your legendary reputation)? and am i wrong to presume that they are over the hills type? [/quote]
(ahem ... compliments like this will always get you attention .. more please). i think they have probably weeded out the has-beens in mulia as there seem to be more of the wannabes than usual ... err ... panya-pedia's definition of "has-been" is above 30, okay! and to my knowledge, they have always offered special massage, usually meaning hj, but most will go all the way for the rp 1 million fee, which can be negotiated down to, say, 500k if the chemistry is right.

[quote=doggage]on turning over and being offered fs for 1million, i sensibly took the hand job at 500k but when i started working on her she became so excited that this turned into a half-price fs.doggage[/quote]
thanks for the endorsement, bro!

btw, on a subsequent trip, i had a massage at the mulia again, by a different girl. she asked me whether i was interested in the special massage, i.e. hj, and quoted the 500k figure. i was really pitching when i told her that i was checking out and leaving jakarta after the massage, and i have only rp 200,000 left -- i would dearly love the special, especially with someone like her, but would it be too insulting? she didn't believe me, and kept insisting 500k, and i just kept saying that it's no go at that price simply because i don't have it with me in local currency.

to my surprise, she relented, and gave a really superb hj (or did i enjoy more because it was much cheaper??). in addition, i started roaming, to which she blocked with her arms initially. after she complained why it took so long for little panya to cough it up, i replied that i really need to touch her in order to speed it up -- she immediately lowered the defenses and i got a real handful of tits.

please don't get me wrong, as i'm not one of those who like to crow that he's got it cheaper when others have paid more ... i really feel a mite embarrassed over "cheating" her, you know.

best,
panya

Presently in Jakarta again, and was reading the recent posts about high class freebies and 3-somes ...sigh! real envious (and dejected when Animal's girlfriend specified 30s as the target group).

I tend to patronize the KTV circuit as I am always with Japanese clients, and there's nothing they like more than to have dinner, followed by drinks, singing and harmless gropings. What I have found is that there's gold in them hills ... sometimes.

Towards the end of last year, I went to Kasimucho Boze karaoke (Blok M), and was quite taken with one of the girls (Miss M) -- however, she struck me as being quite frigid and snooty, as she would really actually keep me at arms-length when I danced the slow numbers with her. I persisted because of her B-cups, but the next time I went, she had apparently resigned.

About a month ago, I went to Roppongi Papa karaoke (opp. Mahakam), and I really did a double take as I walked through the door, there she was -- no less a Supervisor now. I asked whether she could sit with me, and she agreed. Nothing happened that night.

On my next trip, we had a farewell for one of my Japanese clients who was rotating out, and we went again to Kasumicho, where I had made reservations and requested for Miss M to come from Roppongi Papa (both under the same owner).

After the karaoke, my client and I adjourned with 8 of the ladies to Centro Disco (not for the middle-aged, as I found out later) in Darmawangsa(?? or is it Setiabudi??) area. As it was really not my kind of place and after my client left, I told Miss M that I wanted to leave early as well.

She said that she will escort me to the door where she thanked me for the night, and actually asked "Can I come to your hotel later?" I was really, really tired, and had an early flight the next morning, so I told her that it was up to her, but I'm not really expecting that from her (yea .. kick me please!).

Anyway, she didn't call or show up, and I just left it at that.

Arrived Jakarta again yesterday had a game of golf. After the game, I had an sms whether we could have dinner together as it's her day off. So, I suggested since she likes Japanese food (she was shacking up with a jepang for about 2 years), why not at the Intercontinental where I was staying this time.

She arrived at 8.00pm, and was really gorgeous, dressed up formal, and nicely made up. During dinner, I found out what a damned materialistic "female dawg" she was, as she wanted sake, sashimi, and a whole lot of other expensive delicacies ... damn! what a sucker I am for them B-cups, I was telling myself.

After dinner, we had a couple of drinks at the Bacchus wine bar (she wanted Australian wine as that's the only type she will drink ... double "female dawg", I thought!). Finally, age caught up with me as I couldn't stop yawning, and I asked for the bill.

As we were leaving, she asked what I intended to do, and I said "Mau istirihat di kamar aja", to which she replied "Oke tapi I mesti pulang rumah sesudah istirihat ya" ..... ???? I think there must have been a mistake in the way I spoke Bahasa, but what a mistake!

However, age caught up with me again, and I could only raise a half mast ... do you know what she said? "Kamu aneh ya ..." and actually berated me for inviting her up to my room knowing that I couldn't perform after drinking heavily.

I really feel like presenting her gift-wrapped to MD II, just so that he can roll all over her heart and smash it to little snooty pieces.

Alas, I stray from my original purpose, which was to postulate that there are real freebies to be had in the KTVs.

Best,
Panya

[QUOTE=Panya]
I really feel like presenting her gift-wrapped to MD II, just so that he can roll all over her heart and smash it to little snooty pieces.
Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]

I was contemplating whether I was going to act very indignant over this slur, but I'm a very forgiving friend - especially if you feel you need me to help you here bro:D.

MD II

[quote=xsjoe]concerning a massage parlour called jaspa located within mal ambassador, has anyone already tried it?

what can we expect and is there any recommendation for a therapist "more effective" than others?

thanx.[/quote]
use the search function, there have been a few posts written about here recently, including one by me.

for the price, this place is great if all you're looking for is a nice massage and a hj. anything beyond a hj is chancy, however.

try poppy or tuty (so-so face but great tits), avoid fitri (won't let you touch her at all).

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]

I was thinking about that the other day: if you are a bule and trying to pick up in a place which isn't totally bule-orientated, it usually works well to go out with an Indonesian friend. It seems to work well for both parties: girls figure that a bule with an Indonesian friend has been around Jakarta long enough to know the score and not to be scary. And then they figure that an Indonesian with a bule friend is probably more cosmopolitan and richer than average. I don't know, but it seems to work better than a pack of bules only.[/QUOTE]

I used to hunt the obvious malls with an estimated member of this forum. Once, a girl tried to use me, the non-bule guy, to introduce her to the supposedly (in this case, a real one) rich bule guy. If the girl and the bule would get involved, my reward would be an all-night sex feast with her. Pity enough, he wasn't interested :(

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Menteng,

How are you doing my mongering buddy? How is action in Medellin?

I called Ms. T a couple weeks ago. She asked me to extend her regards to you.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]


I'm fine, thanks! Security is tight. Have only managed a couple of happy endings after a massage. Say hello to miss T. if you have one of your orgies :D


[QUOTE=Dorman]I would imagine they don't want any men there at all Menteng ol' buddy.

How are you by the way? Have you been to the new D's Place yet?[/QUOTE]


Bitches!

I'm fine, but back in Medellin again :( thanks! Amazing how you manage to keep your activities on that level!, Chapeau!
The new D's Place? Didn't know there is one! Is it located between My Bar and Highway To Elle? Guess I'll have to visit The Rev to find out more about the place. Next time I'm in Jkt, I'll sure visit it. Hope to see you there.

hispatetek,

i can vouch for this, i stayed in the mulia for the two weeks leading up to easter. on the last afternoon before an evening flight i had to get over my boredom and ordered an in house massage.

as described the ginger tea and condiments werer left on the tray as i was given a very competant massage.

i cannot now remember her name and thought that she was probably a 7. i like them slim and she was a little larger than my normal choice but firm.

on turning over and being offered fs for 1million, i sensibly took the hand job at 500k but when i started working on her she became so excited that this turned into a half-price fs.

she was so enthusiastic and we both really got into it enthusiastically to the point that she was running down the hall afterwards having gone 20mins over time.

a thoroughly enjoyable experience.

doggage

[quote=panya](ahem ... compliments like this will always get you attention .. more please). i think they have probably weeded out the has-beens in mulia as there seem to be more of the wannabes than usual ... err ... panya-pedia's definition of "has-been" is above 30, okay! and to my knowledge, they have always offered special massage, usually meaning hj, but most will go all the way for the rp 1 million fee, which can be negotiated down to, say, 500k if the chemistry is right.


thanks for the endorsement, bro!

btw, on a subsequent trip, i had a massage at the mulia again, by a different girl. she asked me whether i was interested in the special massage, i.e. hj, and quoted the 500k figure. i was really pitching when i told her that i was checking out and leaving jakarta after the massage, and i have only rp 200,000 left -- i would dearly love the special, especially with someone like her, but would it be too insulting? she didn't believe me, and kept insisting 500k, and i just kept saying that it's no go at that price simply because i don't have it with me in local currency.

to my surprise, she relented, and gave a really superb hj (or did i enjoy more because it was much cheaper??). in addition, i started roaming, to which she blocked with her arms initially. after she complained why it took so long for little panya to cough it up, i replied that i really need to touch her in order to speed it up -- she immediately lowered the defenses and i got a real handful of tits.

please don't get me wrong, as i'm not one of those who like to crow that he's got it cheaper when others have paid more ... i really feel a mite embarrassed over "cheating" her, you know.

best,
panya[/quote]

thanks doggage and panya.

i might just be tempted to go back to mulia now since i'm going over to jkt tomorrow. i've avoided that place for quite some time as their rates seems to have soared.

any particular name to recommend? will keep you guys posted.

regards,
hisaptetek

Panya,

Excellent FR bro, very entertaining.

Menteng,

I think I will arrange it within this week bro, an MM session with 4-6 virgins :D.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Hi,

I apologize that I've been reading this forum for a while but having just recently gotten to Jakarta have not had anything to contribute.

But for my first foray into the Jakarta underworld I choose the big daddy of them all, Stadium. I couldn't find any recent detailed trip accounts, so while I imagine that this is old hat to most of you, perhaps some other newbies can benefit.

My primary reason for going to Stadium was not actually P2P but I was hoping to find some "cimeng" (for those who don't know what that is, my user name should give you a hint) which is my "medicine" of choice, and I had read elsewhere on the forum that you could get pre-rolled J's straight from the waiters which combined with the P2P sounded pretty awesome to me.

After a slightly tense trip with the taxi driver (who didn't know the exact alley Stadium was in and drove up and down several shady alleys before finding it) I wandered into the den o' sin. I walked past the security people who told me to pay up stairs, so I proceeded up the stairs to the 4th floor. After paying my entrance fee (60,000) I got a stamp and a drink ticket. It is at this point that one in a line of mamasans grabbed my hand escorted me to the bar, got my drink, and sat me down with one of her little cuties, a 22 year old Chinese/Indonesian girl who said her name was Ani

After a bit of small talk and distracting crotch rubbing from Ani, I managed to ask her if she could help me find some cimeng. First she asked if I was polisi, which I thought was pretty funny. I am Asian but my Indonesian is terrible, so she must of thought I was a pretty good actor. Anyway, after I assurred her I wasn't a narc, she consulted her Mamasan who told me "Maaf, tak ada". She asked if I wanted anything else, but since E isn't my thing, I decided to just finish my beer and take Ani up on a ST session.

She told me the price for a regular room was 280,000 and I made sure that price included the room and her. It did indeed. I also asked if we could do two pops and she said ok. So I was led up and back to the rooms, where I paid up front. I was also asked by the house boy if I wanted some condoms, for which I paid 10,000. The room was a bit shabby but decent enough, with a long mirror next to the bed which is always a good thing.

The session started out well with a shower and some tongue action from her. But as she neared my little brother she indicated that she couldn't put it in her mouth because it was too big. This was of course a bit of a disappointment for but I couldn't help but take it as a bit of a compliment too (I never thought of myself as anything more than average, at best) so I let it slide and she slid the too small condom on me and we got down to business in a few standard positions. Despite her being decently tight, I had trouble getting release as the condom was cutting off a lot of the feeling. It's was a good lesson for me though, always bring your own!

Anyway, it was a decent session but pretty mechanical. However she was pretty good looking, at least a 7 (most girls there seemed servicably cute, a lot of young thin, Chinese looking girls from what I could see) and to me it still seemed like a great bargain for the price. To be honest, half the excitement was the thought that I was getting something like this for so cheap. Maybe after living here for a while that sort of thing will wear off :)

Anyways, after we finished she kind of abruptly showed me out the door, but she also didn't angle for a tip so I didn't give one. I headed back to the main floor and tried asking a few waiters and bartenders if I could buy some cimeng but no luck. Since I didn't want to roll, I didn't see much point in hanging around with the tweaked out masses if I couldn't get in the right state of mind myself.

Incidently, despite it's reputation, I never felt in danger or particularly worried while in Stadium or walking around outside looking for a taxi, but that might be because I'm Asian and thus didn't draw any special attention.

So I hope that report merits me enough goodwill to ask one small question (Of course I will post more as I have more to report) and you can probably guess what it is. Does anybody know an easy place to find my beloved herbal medicine? I can't imagine it's that hard to get, but there's almost no info online about specific places to score. I know this isn't exactly the right forum, but it is what I really like to use to get me "in the mood" and I figure somebody here might have some recommendations to at least help me start my search.

Thanks in advance.

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[QUOTE=FreebieFan]In Thailand many places where men and woman can have a shared massage. That sometimes leads to interesting scenario'. S. With happy endings for both. So I have a JKTA trip soon and one possible activity with my horny gf is to take her to a joint massage place. Where we can get massage side by side. But with massage attendants that maybe would give me hand job and maybe give her a nice fingering. Don't know if she would like it. But I'm thinking she might. Anyone know where? Recommendations please.[/QUOTE]


Sound interesting.... Tell us when u find such places.

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]Panya,

Excellent FR bro, very entertaining.

Menteng,

I think I will arrange it within this week bro, an MM session with 4-6 virgins :D.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]

Buddy,

U Still hv my number? SMS me on your next gathering ya.....

I am Back......hehhe

Cheers

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]
Menteng,

I think I will arrange it within this week bro, an MM session with 4-6 virgins :D.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]


Excellent! You do the MM and I do the FF (fokky fokky) one day :D

Good luck with your quest. Report back if you succeed.
Any oldtimers have any other Stadium updates? How do the ladies there compare to those at Berlian and Kartika?

[QUOTE=Joker Toker]
Incidently, despite it's reputation, I never felt in danger or particularly worried while in Stadium or walking around outside looking for a taxi, but that might be because I'm Asian and thus didn't draw any special attention.



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[QUOTE=Joker Toker]...My primary reason for going to Stadium was not actually P2P but I was hoping to find some "cimeng"

...After paying my entrance fee (60,000) I got a stamp and a drink ticket.

...She told me the price for a regular room was 280,000

...if I wanted some condoms, for which I paid 10,000.

...Anyway, it was a decent session but pretty mechanical...to me it still seemed like a great bargain for the price.

...Anyways, after we finished she kind of abruptly showed me out the door, but she also didn't angle for a tip so I didn't give one...

...So I hope that report merits me enough goodwill to ask one small question... Does anybody know an easy place to find my beloved herbal medicine?

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Two comments:

1) nothing against marijuana, but I find it hard to believe that Jackson would recommend this post as a "Report of Distinction" since it's such a blatant request to disclose information on where to find drugs, by someone who to date has only one post! This is the "International Sex Guide," not the "International Get High Guide."

2) great bargain for the price? The Joker paid a total of 350,000 rupiah and neglected to give a tip; for that price, he could have had a great session at Kartika with Cindy (house fee there is 250,000 rupiah tip included, no entrance fee, expected tip is 50,000 to 100,000 rupiah) or at Berlian.

[QUOTE=Vahaza Be]Good luck with your quest. Report back if you succeed.
Any oldtimers have any other Stadium updates? How do the ladies there compare to those at Berlian and Kartika?[/QUOTE]I guess you have never been to Stadium. The girls at stadium are far nicer than the girls at Kartika or Berlian. I think the girls at Kartika and Berlian are some of the ugliest in the city.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng]The girls at stadium are far nicer than the girls at Kartika or Berlian.[/QUOTE]

Maybe the lights are darker at the Stadium. Or maybe you just turn up there later in the evening, and aren't so picky. Or maybe everyone looks good when you are on E.

Joker Toker, think about five times before lighting up a spliff in STD: frequent raids, and you can be sure that there will be undercover people there beforehand. At least with E, you swallow the evidence: grass stinks.

[QUOTE=Vahaza Be] Any oldtimers have any other Stadium updates? How do the ladies there compare to those at Berlian and Kartika?[/QUOTE]
So far, in my experience all of the ladies at all these places have equipment similar to this picture (grin).

Let's not forget that one man's meat is another man's "cannot eat" when we're comparing Jakarta's lovelies across establishments. Not really important whether there are some (or even many) women in a particular place that trigger your "no thanks" response. After all, it only takes one (well, all right - in the case of a Kartika soapy - two then). And for sure I have always found at least two women of acceptable standard in all of these places each time that I visited. Come on guys, each of Kartika and Berlian (let alone Stadium) has dozens and dozens of women on offer.

Last point - maybe redundant. Even though the ratio of attractive ladies to total ladies in the place is definitely higher at Stadium than Kartika, you can't get a soapy in Stadium . . . at least I never have.

[QUOTE=Joker Toker]Does anybody know an easy place to find my beloved herbal medicine? [/QUOTE]If you mean pot you won't find any in discos etc. Too smelly. I'm not sure hotels would take kindly to a marihuana smell wafting from under your door either. They might invite the cops in to have a look. Most working girls can score it for you if you want. Remember though that Indonesian law there are no "soft" drugs. Why risk a life sentence for something you can buy openly or nearly openly in Europe and elsewhere? Of course you're Asian but I'm sure there are safer options in Asia. If you want it for a hard-on take Viagra instead!

Arrived here a few days ago. And basically let my JkTA GF move into my hotel. Cute as a button lady, immensely horny. And shes been to a few other Asian cities with me. So her stuff is all over my hotel room.

However theres plan B with whom I've been chatting for a while. Also very cute slim and lovely. She doesnt know about the GF but she knew what hotel I'm in.

So what did I do. Booked a second room in my hotel with some points. Picked up plan b. Told GF A I had a meeting and could only see her later. And met Plan b. Damn we had good time but she a 9. 30 pm curfew so she left and was able to meet GF A all smiles and lovey.

The things we do for nookie.

Any kind souls out there care to help in enlightening places of interests around Hotel Borobudur? It seems as though all actions are further down south, as this is my first time in Jakarta, will really like to thank you guys who are kind enough to help.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Hisaptetek]I might just be tempted to go back to Mulia now since I'm going over to JKT tomorrow.[/QUOTE]

I forgot to mention that the Mulia now offers massage up to 2.00am, although I think the last call is at 1.30am - the girls apparently work in 4 shifts.

I think it's a real good idea, as it gives one the option of being tucked in when all other avenues are fruitless ... but, then again, there's CJs downstairs.

Best,
Panya

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]

So what did I do. Booked a second room in my hotel with some points. Picked up plan b. Told GF A I had a meeting and could only see her later. And met Plan b. Damn we had good time but she a 9. 30 pm curfew so she left and was able to meet GF A all smiles and lovey.

The things we do for nookie.[/QUOTE]
Damn..... I've gotta learn from you!!
Wonder if I'd dare to arrange the same thing with wifey instead of your just 2 girl friends?
Would YOU dare??!!
SEAJ

Went to Blok M two nights ago and had to learn that D's place moved. The new place is just down the road, exactly opposite Top Gun. It was Tuesday night, and it was deserted. Hope the new place will be as good as the old one.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Use the Search function, there have been a few posts written about here recently, including one by me.

For the price, this place is great if all you're looking for is a nice massage and a HJ. Anything beyond a HJ is chancy, however.

Try Poppy or Tuty (so-so face but great tits), avoid Fitri (won't let you touch her at all).[/QUOTE]Thanks.

So I went twice. Tried Poppy (about 35 yo) and Tina (25 yo). Got a HJ from Poppy for 100k. And nothing from Tina. No photo to choose from. Just tell if you want soft, medium or strong massage.

The place is OK. Recommended. For bros who never went there : it's above the supermarket, the entrance is not within the mall but outside. Happy hour tariff at lunch time = 88 K per hour. Otherwise it's 110 K.

Here is a short report on 2 places I visited last month for the first time (and the last I think).

- Cleopatra is a would be high end spa massage parlour located at Grand Wijaya.

Same price as Delta for 2x45mn session. The "plus" HJ is to be negociated with the girl.

The place is definitely not as good as Delta (poorer rooms, smaller corridors, permanent smoke...is it a "smokers only" place ? ...)

I got a girl called Dewi. Nice face. I don't remember how old she is (25 ?). Good massage. At the end she offered a HJ for 150k (nego started at 300k). Said she could provide FS (but not that day as she had her menstruations) for 1 M Rp and for that she said that I should book a Suite instead of the standard room (the one with walls not reaching the ceiling).

Easy to get better value for same costs in many places in Jakarta.

Seems that most of the customers at Cleopatra are japanese.

- Duta is located within Pasar Majestik. It's a low end PP. Only 75 k per hour for massage but the place is really poor. No lockers, lousy showers... I had Leni who provided a standard massage and asked 300 k / 250 k for a HJ. I declined as she stuck to her price.

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Not in a million years mate. All these snaeaking around is kind of hard to do. And a wifes antennas are even more tuned in to our indiscretions!

Just had a girl promote the idea of meeting her at the Tavern at Aryduta. I don't know anything about this place, so I just did a search, and saw two very luke warm reports from Smoothy and B69 respectively, but quite some time ago.

Anyone been there recently? Any opinions?

Ok. This has nothing to do with sex. During my recent two in one adventure. I was with lady A in Paparazzi in Plaza indonesia for a glass of wine.

We ordered two glasses of wine. It arrived. And was totally corked. Tasted gross. Asked waitress to replace.

She stated that as bottle was opened and charge but placed on cash machine she couldn't replace. We said we can't pay for whats undrinkable. She stated not her problem. Hmmm. Inreresting reaction from wait staff!

We said were not paying. She had we have to. Interesting stand off. (and note I was with an Indonesian lady so language wasnt an issue.

Really interesting reaction to this problem by the staf there. So be careful of this bar. Its nice to sit there. (not as cosy as the F bar in Ex plaza) but staff hopeless beyond belief.

[QUOTE=Xsjoe]Here is a short report on 2 places I visited last month for the first time (and the last I think).

- Cleopatra is a would be high end spa massage parlour located at Grand Wijaya.

Same price as Delta for 2x45mn session. The "plus" HJ is to be negociated with the girl.

The place is definitely not as good as Delta (poorer rooms, smaller corridors, permanent smoke...is it a "smokers only" place ? ...)

I got a girl called Dewi. Nice face. I don't remember how old she is (25 ?). Good massage. At the end she offered a HJ for 150k (nego started at 300k). Said she could provide FS (but not that day as she had her menstruations) for 1 M Rp and for that she said that I should book a Suite instead of the standard room (the one with walls not reaching the ceiling).

Easy to get better value for same costs in many places in Jakarta.

Seems that most of the customers at Cleopatra are japanese.

- Duta is located within Pasar Majestik. It's a low end PP. Only 75 k per hour for massage but the place is really poor. No lockers, lousy showers... I had Leni who provided a standard massage and asked 300 k / 250 k for a HJ. I declined as she stuck to her price.

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Thanks for "taking one (actually two) for the team" as there are very few reports on either place here.

Unfortunately most of the places that provide a decent massage are overpriced when it comes to extras, including Fortune, Unique and others. That's why I had recommended Jaspa, sorry to read that you didn't have a good session with Tina. I'm sure that you enjoyed Poppy despite her pushing (or over?) 30.

Check out some of the posts written by Oyenk in late 2007 about the best massage places, including Puri Sehat, etc.

If you're still in town, try Kartika for a two-girl soapy massage, well worth the money @ 250,000 house fee per girl, plus two tips - great combo of massage plus FS.

[QUOTE=Xsjoe]
- Duta is located within Pasar Majestik. It's a low end PP. Only 75 k per hour for massage but the place is really poor. No lockers, lousy showers... I had Leni who provided a standard massage and asked 300 k / 250 k for a HJ. I declined as she stuck to her price.

[/QUOTE]


Bro,

I agree that it is not topnotch over there, but the quality of the place is better than some of the places in Kota that are mentioned here. And I think you missed something at Duta. The price includes the use of the spa. Down at the spa are the lockers and the better showers than upstairs. Besides, I'm surprised Leni wanted that amount. The going rate over there is 100K for a HJ, including fondling and fingering. And if you are a regular, which I was because I stayed about 200 yards from there, some of them even provide more for a price comparable to those in the regular brothels.

I will not give you a name, because I promised not to, but of course I will make an exception for those I know personally.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Just had a girl promote the idea of meeting her at the Tavern at Aryduta. I don't know anything about this place, so I just did a search, and saw two very luke warm reports from Smoothy and B69 respectively, but quite some time ago.

Anyone been there recently? Any opinions?[/QUOTE]


Tavern is a great place to be in. It has a three tier layout. As you enter in the first tier, its clean and sometimes if you are lucky, you might get hold of a non professional who is typsy and will not charge you anything at all. Then you have the bar, where you will find some girls on the bar, who are available or are with some Oil and Gas gys who have already hooked them. And the third tier beyond the bar is where you will find most of the action is, where you will find the WG's and many of the Oil and Gas regulars who are back from the rigs or those girls who are the gf's of the guys who are on the rigs and are two timing out there.

But then the action is in full flow when the Bali based band Music Makers is playing there. If they are not playing, you will hardly find any crowd out there. I understand that the music makers band is back starting May 3rd. In case you go there, ask them to play Brick on the wall by Pink Floyd. The lead singer Clif sings it damn good.

Its a decent place and also can get some non professionals who are out there having a drink, might get typsy and go with you for a fuck, without asking for money. I have been lucky quite a few times. In fact the last three times 3 different girls took me out from there in their car, to mistere ( 2 girls) and CJ and then made love the whole night and when they woke up, felt ashamed !!!, but kissed me and left.

Have fun.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Menteng]And I think you missed something at Duta. The price includes the use of the spa. Down at the spa are the lockers and the better showers than upstairs. Besides, I'm surprised Leni wanted that amount. The going rate over there is 100K for a HJ, including fondling and fingering. And if you are a regular, which I was because I stayed about 200 yards from there, some of them even provide more for a price comparable to those in the regular brothels.[/QUOTE]It's true that I went straight upstairs and didn't see the spa facilities downstairs. As for Leni asking too high a tip, maybe she thought I was earning 100 KUSD per month (yes, a girl in a spa told me that's what they really think).

So maybe I'll try again.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]
Check out some of the posts written by Oyenk in late 2007 about the best massage places, including Puri Sehat, etc.

If you're still in town, try Kartika for a two-girl soapy massage, well worth the money @ 250,000 house fee per girl, plus two tips - great combo of massage plus FS.[/QUOTE]Actually I'm permanently in town since a few months and for another year. Unfortunately I can try places and then make reports only when my job...and wife give me a break.

Where is Puri Sehat?

I already tried Kartika (following the numerous reports that you wrote) and as far as I remember I dedicated one of my first reports to this place. Good value for money indeed.

Thanks a lot again for your advice.

[QUOTE=Xsjoe]Actually I'm permanently in town since a few months and for another year. Unfortunately I can try places and then make reports only when my job...and wife give me a break.

Where is Puri Sehat?

I already tried Kartika (following the numerous reports that you wrote) and as far as I remember I dedicated one of my first reports to this place. Good value for money indeed.

Thanks a lot again for your advice.[/QUOTE]
My apologies, I just realized that you had written an excellent report on Kartika a couple of months ago, you had had 3 visits there (including one with Sonia), also you had asked the question on why the girls rinsed out the condoms after the session.

Puri Sehat is located just north of Atrium Mall and the Pasar Senen (Senen Market), right on a small canal and parallel to a main north-south road.

The following has been taken from previous posts by Oyenk, I can't claim any credit for the information:

*Puri Sehat Spa :

Jl. Kartini Raya no 24, Jakarta

Puri Sehat - standard room now 125,000 rupiahs, Deluxe 145,000 rupiahs,
VIP 180,000 rupiahs, SVIP 200,000 rupiahs - all per 2 sessions
Tip for FJ (full service): 200,000 rupiah

Recommended numbers : 25,33,28,39,57,55,82,32,67.
I recommend no 25,33,28.

The manager is Oyenk's friend; Mr. Dedi. Just mention Oyenk's nickname (Oyenk) and ask Mr. Dedi which girl provides FJ...he'll choose one.

They may also provide one package for 250 k (all-in) only FJ, but WG still limited.
Telp: 021 6252721

**

And someone else (can't remember who) posted this info:
"True as what bro Oyenk said, number 25, 67, 68 & 86 are the stars of the Spa, also #57 Della"

[quote=mighty spearsman]
puri sehat is located just north of atrium mall and the pasar senen (senen market), right on a small canal and parallel to a main north-south road.

recommended numbers : 25,33,28,39,57,55,82,32,67.
i recommend no 25,33,28.

and someone else (can't remember who) posted this info:
"true as what bro oyenk said, number 25, 67, 68 & 86 are the stars of the spa, also #57 della"[/quote]
thank you for helping them..

no 33 / peggy has moved to royal bordell in jl. pangeran jayakarta.
no 25 is ntin...i have attached her pictures.
no 28 is tini...the best "petik mangga" i have ever had. her pictures also had been attached by me.
no 39 is ayu...small petite girl. her sister also a therapist and works in grand comfort (mangga besar).
no 57 is della...used to work in grand comfort (mangga besar).
no 82...i forget her name.
no 86 is tenny and she is the prettiest therapist in ps (in my humble opinion).

* couple months ago i chatted with dedi, i asked him to send me therapists's pictures (which i would upload to isg) but he may have forgotten our conversation.

cheers.

[QUOTE=Xsjoe]It's true that I went straight upstairs and didn't see the spa facilities downstairs. As for Leni asking too high a tip, maybe she thought I was earning 100 KUSD per month (yes, a girl in a spa told me that's what they really think).

So maybe I'll try again.[/QUOTE]


Well, then you must be a bule, because that's what the girls think of bule's.

Visited Ibu Linda in Kota recently in a vain attempt to find a reasonably attractive woman willing to do anal. Ibu Linda is a pretty good setup: fishbowl with 20 or so mostly plump 30ish women. I chose once that wasn't so plump, and was perhaps in her late 20s. She wasn't smiling. Mistake to choose her.complained. Wanted me to 'cepat keluar' (come quickly). What a pain. I could have been in America! Jeezzh.

So went next door for a session with 'empot ayam' Ella, who is truly a nice lady, pleasant face, and excellent pussy control. With a muscular and tight pussy like this, no need for anal.

Lesson: if 'muka masam' (sour face) don't bother.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Visited Ibu Linda in Kota

She wasn't smiling. Mistake to choose her.complained. Wanted me to 'cepat keluar' (come quickly). What a pain. I could have been in America! Jeezzh.
.[/QUOTE]
Post her name !

So that our brothers here will avoid her in PP Ibu Linda...

[QUOTE=Oyenk]Post her name !

So that our brothers here will avoid her in PP Ibu Linda...[/QUOTE]Sitting here trying to remember: she's late 20s, nice figure, 'sawo matang', fairly tall, comes from Malang, and had a scrunched-up sour face (at least when she saw me!). Her name might be Wati or Rini--she told me, but I just don't remember it clearly. It was a common name with two syllables, I do remember that.

Sorry, bro!

[quote=oyenk]

no 82...i forget her name.

[/quote]

no 82 is tia...

* other recommended therapist in puri sehat is no 78...the name is indri, a small petite gal just like no 39 (ayu).

cheers.

[QUOTE=Panya]I forgot to mention that the Mulia now offers massage up to 2.00am, although I think the last call is at 1.30am - the girls apparently work in 4 shifts.

I think it's a real good idea, as it gives one the option of being tucked in when all other avenues are fruitless ... but, then again, there's CJs downstairs.

Best,

Panya[/QUOTE]Seems like there's been some changes.

I'm staying at Mulia this week. Just called for in-room massage, no one picking up at spa center, call forwarded to reception, who politely told me that in room massage is only available from 7am to 10pm. The guest services book still prominently displays the 7am-2am hours for in-room service - so I guess someting must have happened very recently.

Hmmm...

I arrived in JKT yesterday afternoon, after a hellishly long 2 stop flight from the US. Still it was better than my normal 3 or 4 stop journey that used to include a night in Singapore.

My hotel rate included a free Silverbird ride to the hotel, and I was pleased to see that they're using some Mercedes now, which I got. Since the hotel is close to the tollway, I didn't even have to be stuck in traffic for hours! :)

A nice upgrade to a suite, fruit and drinks and a free mini-bar made the first night a bit more relaxing.

I thought there were only bluebird and silverbird - i read elsewhere re a goldenbird? Is there such a thing and what are the approximate prices for airport to town?

(sorry for newbie questionbut I usually get hotel car service :) )

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I thought there were only bluebird and silverbird - i read elsewhere re a goldenbird? Is there such a thing and what are the approximate prices for airport to town?

(sorry for newbie questionbut I usually get hotel car service :) )[/QUOTE]Golden Bird is a limousine service provided by the Blue Bird group. Would cost you 368k from airport to your hotel. Unless you wish to arrive like a VIP, then Silverbird is a better option.

Hope it helps

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I thought there were only bluebird and silverbird - i read elsewhere re a goldenbird? Is there such a thing and what are the approximate prices for airport to town?

(sorry for newbie question but I usually get hotel car service :) )[/QUOTE]
No problem with your question, it's actually a good one.

The Blue Bird Group has several parts, including Blue Bird (regular taxis), Silver Bird (slightly more expensive taxis, nicer car, driver speaks some English), Golden Bird and even Big Bird.

Golden Bird is the part that leases automobiles on a longer-term basis, such as monthly. Most of their clients are corporate, some clients lease autos for their personal use. The car most often leased is the Toyota Kijang (seats 7 people).

Big Bird is the arm that rents various bus-sized vehicles. The latest TV commercial for the Blue Bird Group shows a group of 20 or so primary-school children running through a grassy field and climbing onto a Big Bird bus, with a smiling driver, no sign of any adult chaperones or other supervisors.

I'm not sure if Golden Bird provides any vehicles at the airport for transport into town? but it's probably not worth worrying about. Unless you are travelling with a large group or have a lot of luggage, or are travelling from the airport to a far-away destination outside Jakarta (such as Bogor), Blue Bird or Silver Bird should be fine.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I arrived in JKT yesterday afternoon, .....
A nice upgrade to a suite, fruit and drinks and a free mini-bar made the first night a bit more relaxing.[/QUOTE]
JC, your hotel sounds pretty nice. What is the name and price please, and did you book at KAHA?
thanks

[QUOTE=1Ball]JC, your hotel sounds pretty nice. What is the name and price please, and did you book at KAHA?
thanks[/QUOTE]

No, it's a bit of backdoor method. The free mini-bar is because of status with the hotel. I'll PM you specifics of the hotel deal, if you're interested.

three things here, gentlemen. if you are feeling helpful, please go straight to the end, and answer my questions about the lovely re (pronounced ray) from bali and nia - both of whom separately lit-up the room at bats on wednesday night.

second from the bottom is my bats fuck report - very nice but nothing out of the ordinary. and first off, i will start with an aff prick-tease story.

part 1: before visiting jakarta this past week, i worked the email pretty vigorously and lined up many aff fucks for the various nooks and crannies of my working trip. some days i can manage a nooner instead of business lunch - the pussy diet keeps you trim by eating trim (grin). most days i can squeeze in a late afternoon bonk (5'ish) if i have a business drinks function on later, and i always aim for an evening date (9'ish) which ideally becomes an overnight thing.

before i grumble about aff, i should first say that i have fucked literally dozens of jakarta beauties (and the occasional dog) from aff in the past year-plus, for nothing more than taxi fare or the odd jar of body-butter from body shop. there "are" working-girls with profiles on aff, but mostly you can avoid them if you wish to (or fuck them, if you wish to pay - hey, why not?). but aff dates don't always work out like planned. this is courtship, fella's . . . fair enough, mostly courtship with women who want to ride your dick as much as you want to put it in them . . . but still courtship, and not pay-for-definite-play.

some of the lovely ladies i set up dates with this week were old friends and still very fun to fuck (well, duh), but one was new and hot and i saved the late-night slot for her on wednesday. we had emailed back and forth for weeks, and i have to say that i genuinely like this girl's brain. educated, professional, funny and a really hot body. oh - and an enthusiastic and totally erection-causing deep french-kisser . . . all body-melting-into-you and grinding pubes passionately while she moans into the kiss. hot! that's the good news.

the bad news is that she kept twisting away every time i tried to slide my hand down the front of her skirt. cupping her ass and pulling her against me as we played duelling-tongues was fine, and i eventually even managed to fold down her scooped-neck top, peel down first one and then the other bra-cup and suck on her fantastically large brown nipple-cones. oh, this woman was a fine sample of javanese poon all right.

when i finally pushed her back on the couch, and started kissing down her stomach to lick her pussy, she stopped me firmly and said "i can't. i won't sleep with a married man. i have to go now". what the fuck! never mind that she knew from my first email introduction that i am happily married. never mind that she agreed to a first meeting in my hotel room involving a bottle of wine and lots of kissing. well, we got all that - but only that, and no pussy. not a taste, not a touch, not even a look at her pubes.

turns out her father had cheated on her mother (imagine that!), so she swore to herself that she would never fuck a married man. "fuck around with one" seems to be still ok (grimace), and i have had a handful of sweet and funny text messages from her in the past couple of days since she prick-teased me, so she seems to have enjoyed herself.

part 2: well, no pussy was the bad news. and the good news was that i was in a taxi to bats within 10 minutes of seeing her out the door - she turned down my offer of taxi money by the way - pushing the money back into my pocket after i pressed it into her hand. ahhh, yes . . . bats.

not 2 minutes after i turned away from the bats bar with my cover-drink two-foot-glass-of-beer, i bumped smack into fatmawati. she is a hard-bodied little gym bunny who works out religiously at celebrity fitness. i wrote about fucking her once before in this thread, and she was fun and friendly enough that it was a done-deal as soon as i saw her. but come-on, i only just got my beer - so i told her i wanted to listen to the music; that i was definitely taking her home soon; but i will find her in a little while. and then i went trolling for back-bench pussy (full smile).

just to wrap up part two - fatma was a terrific fuck (again), but she was at pains to let me know that she was at bats for fun and not for money. basically she offered me a freebie when she left after a couple rounds of rock-my-world. but i figured she was sizing me up as boyfriend material, so i kept things professional and insisted that she accept the 500k rupiah (same as i paid her last time). she works day-time, so i guess i probably could have scored a freebie without any drama. maybe one of you can as well.

anyway, her name is fatmawati and you should look for a terrific ass and well-toned legs (she favors dresses); little in the way of breasts (her nipples are deliciously responsive though - she fed me one in the taxi home); and a just so-so face (6 or maybe 7 with make-up on).

part 3: now for the part where helpful fellow sex-tourists offer their opinions. while prowling around bats after agreeing to take fatma home, i met a smoking-hot woman called re (ray) who said she moved to jakarta from bali a month ago. if you were in bats on wednesday (14'th), you probably would have noticed her. little black dress, tight, slim but curvaceous little body, and a stunningly pretty face. she sent me a text message on her way home (too drunk, she said) at 2:30 am, and i collected her email address by sms next day.

i know that isn't much to go on - sorry i didn't take her picture - but does anyone have experience with re? she is too hot to ignore, but if she is a major gold-digger or a starfish, then i will rather not fuck her (laughing).

same story on another hot-looking woman in a denim-skirt called nia who gave me her number when i asked - slim, tight, hard-body with nice curves - also in bats on wednesday. re and nia were easily 2 of the 10 hottest looking women in the bar on the 14'th. it's a long-shot to ask a silly question like this, but you never know ? anyone reading this happen to be a proud possessor of that perfect poon some time recently ?

fuck more than one lady a day, gentlemen. so much hot pussy in jakarta, and so little time to taste it all.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]No problem with your question, it's actually a good one.[/QUOTE]

Many thanks....even though I still regularly visit, seldom have the chance to use a taxi :)

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]

Now for the part where helpful fellow sex-tourists offer their opinions. While prowling around BATS after agreeing to take Fatma home, I met a smoking-hot woman called Re (Ray) who said she moved to Jakarta from Bali a month ago. If you were in BATS on Wednesday (14'th), you probably would have noticed her. Little black dress, tight, slim but curvaceous little body, and a stunningly pretty face. [/QUOTE]

I'm calling bullshit on that - I met her well over a month ago in there, and she immediately quoted 1.5 juta short time! Supposedly because she was working, and there was what seemed to be a gay guy looking on at the negotiations. The next day short time in the arvo had dropped to 750k - she was nice, but still too high to go for.

I ended up with a not as hot girl from BATS for 400k short time, and she was the wildest thing I've ever had in Indonesia. That is saying something. I doubt Ray would get it on as good.

Word on the street from the 'good girls' I know is no-one not on the game is going into BATS anymore as it is well known as the 'chicken farm'.

[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808]I'm calling bullshit on that - I met her well over a month ago in there, and she immediately quoted 1.5 juta short time! Supposedly because she was working, and there was what seemed to be a gay guy looking on at the negotiations. The next day short time in the arvo had dropped to 750k - she was nice, but still too high to go for.

Word on the street from the 'good girls' I know is no-one not on the game is going into BATS anymore as it is well known as the 'chicken farm'.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Hung Man. This is useful background on Ray. I think I will still like to taste her poon, but maybe I will try inviting her for afternoon delight short-time. Definitely I won't pay 750k though. So far 500k has been my top (and usual) price for BATS poon, and the wenches have to pay their own cover to get in. Maybe since Ray can still head for BATS that nite after I plow her, and since I won't charge her cover to get into my room, or to drink my alcohol (grin) - maybe I can persuade her to be more reasonable on my wallet. If not, well . . . then not.

Anyone else have a Ray story to share. Is her pussy as hot as the rest of her package ?

Plenty of "good" girls in BATS, but I agree with Hung Man that very few of them are "good girls". Hung Man had one of the "good" ones himself - reporting in effect that "Hell yes, she was good - in fact she was the best I ever had in Indonesia" (grin again).

Other posters (and lurkers) here may have more experience on BATS to share, but my own impression is that there are four flavors of women in the bar on most nights. First (most abundant) are the professional working-girls who can be seen there practically every night.

Second (next most abundant) are the semi-pro's. They tend to have day-jobs, and they turn up less regularly. Sometimes for fun (though open to renting their pussy if they like the fellow hitting on them. If they don't like, then they often will say "no"). Other times, these semi-pro's are a little short of cash before pay-day and then they revert to behavior much more like type-one. Fatmawati who I took this week, Susi (a skinny girl with glasses who favors jeans and plain t-shirts), and Nadia (a truly stacked, taller girl with luscious curves) are all ladies I have posted about here from the semi-pro category.

Third group (less common - and wonderful to find) are non-pro's who know the score in BATS and come anyway, either in groups - maybe because they think it is edgy to rub elbows with hookers - or because they want to see whether they can pick up a studly bule and fuck him (for free). I know a few women through AFF from this category. They claim they would be insulted if a bule offered them money but actually I think they are secretly thrilled by the idea (and would probably take the money).

Fourth group (least common) are non-pro's who wander into the bar because they are staying in the hotel (usually part of a conference or convention). They may be Asian, so look as though they fit in, but usually they quickly figure out what is going on and flee the bar. Sometimes (especially if they come with a group) they stay and dance, but are scandalized when men hit on them for sex.

But overall I agree with Hung Man - "good girls" generally don't turn up at BATS (excepting the few in cat-4 who come for whatever reason). On the other hand, most of us have had SEVERAL "good" girls naked on our beds soon after picking them up in BATS. That's why I say "Good" girls DO go to BATS . . . and thank goodness for that.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]No problem with your question, it's actually a good one.

The Blue Bird Group has several parts, including Blue Bird (regular taxis), Silver Bird (slightly more expensive taxis, nicer car, driver speaks some English), Golden Bird and even Big Bird.

Golden Bird is the part that leases automobiles on a longer-term basis, such as monthly. Most of their clients are corporate, some clients lease autos for their personal use. The car most often leased is the Toyota Kijang (seats 7 people).

Big Bird is the arm that rents various bus-sized vehicles. The latest TV commercial for the Blue Bird Group shows a group of 20 or so primary-school children running through a grassy field and climbing onto a Big Bird bus, with a smiling driver, no sign of any adult chaperones or other supervisors.

I'm not sure if Golden Bird provides any vehicles at the airport for transport into town? but it's probably not worth worrying about. Unless you are travelling with a large group or have a lot of luggage, or are travelling from the airport to a far-away destination outside Jakarta (such as Bogor), Blue Bird or Silver Bird should be fine.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your very nice write up of the blue bird group.

There is another name iron bird that is involved with the trucking biz.

Regards

[QUOTE=Hung Man 1808]Word on the street from the 'good girls' I know is no-one not on the game is going into BATS anymore as it is well known as the 'chicken farm'.[/QUOTE]B.A.T.S. = Banyak Ayam Tersedia Sini

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]I know a few women through AFF from this category. They claim they would be insulted if a bule offered them money but actually I think they are secretly thrilled by the idea (and would probably take the money).[/QUOTE]

Just yesterday, in one of the Plaza Indonesia coffee shops, I was chatting with an old friend of mine, a female lawyer pushing forty. She was regaling the whole table with her story of picking up some 28 year old bule in Bats the night before. Positively cackling and shrieking with laughter, she described the way he nervously reached for his wallet as they parted, and asked her how much he should pay. She said: "Well, as a lawyer, my consultation fee is about Rp 500,000 per hour, and we've been here for ten hours, so that's ... No, looking at the way you dress, I don't think you could afford me. Let's make this one a freebie. Or maybe I can give you some money for the taxi home?" The volume of the laughter almost attracted the security guards.

Seriously, the way these Indonesian women talk about their sex life with their friends makes ISG members sound like a bunch of clergymen.

[QUOTE=Morepoonhound]

Plenty of "good" girls in BATS, but I agree with Hung Man that very few of them are "good girls".

......But overall I agree with Hung Man - "good girls" generally don't turn up at BATS (excepting the few in cat-4 who come for whatever reason). .[/QUOTE]

I generally agree, and based on my experience "Good Girls" generally don't do BATS.

Have maintained my little "harem" of three "Good Girls" (now these are truly good girls, live with mum/dad, home by 9:30 PM etc) for about 3 years, so have got to know each of them VERY well over that time, and from them I have learn't they would NEVER consider going to BATS either alone or with a friend. Have taken a couple of them to check it out, and they were not al that comfortable!!!

Having said that, each of these gals is HOT in bed....late 20's - mid30s, missed out on getting married early, and they want sex as much as I do, but it has to be safe in that they don't want to be seen as or feel like "Bad Girls". They are discerning, and want to be satisfied sexually.

Excellent story, Gonzo, love it.
[QUOTE=Gonzo Two]Just yesterday, in one of the Plaza Indonesia coffee shops, I was chatting with an old friend of mine, a female lawyer pushing forty. She was regaling the whole table with her story of picking up some 28 year old bule in Bats the night before. Positively cackling and shrieking with laughter, she described the way he nervously reached for his wallet as they parted, and asked her how much he should pay. She said: "Well, as a lawyer, my consultation fee is about Rp 500,000 per hour, and we've been here for ten hours, so that's ... No, looking at the way you dress, I don't think you could afford me. Let's make this one a freebie. Or maybe I can give you some money for the taxi home?" The volume of the laughter almost attracted the security guards.

Seriously, the way these Indonesian women talk about their sex life with their friends makes ISG members sound like a bunch of clergymen.[/QUOTE]

I miss a report here about the ongoing "renovation" of the bang quarters A till F. It is a joke: painted the wall, mount 2 lamps, replace cover of mattress.

Air Conditioners and bathtubs are still not up to standard.

Sure enough we will soon be confronted with "harga naik" (prices up) from currently 400.000 Rp per girl per room ... because everything goes up kan?

A Beer Bintang Draft is already at 30.000 Rp!

However, IMHO, still the best place in town, especially due to location and with such opening hours (10-22h)

A few nights ago, another member recommended a lady who is on some TV show here. Supposed to be a good provider, but not really on the open market. I was a bit tired, but agreed to have her come over for the night. Stated price was 600k.

She came over, and her face was only average. She was fairly interesting once we started, but once the action started in bed, she was way over the top with fake moaning, and just wanted to fuck and go to sleep quickly.

I extended the session a bit by DATY, but it wasn't spectactular. A bit of a FJ, but I just couldn't get excited enough with all her over the top moaning. She ended up with a BBBJ that was okay. She showered, and then we went to bed. An hour or two later, she woke me up, and she was fully dressed, and said, "Sorry Mister, have to leave". I was totally asleep, and a bit pissed off. I shouldn't have paid her the full 600k, but did anyway, and off she went.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero], "Sorry Mister, have to leave". .[/QUOTE]
Don't you hate it.... when a gal you've just been so intimate with.... adresses you as .....MISTER?!

SEAJ

I had Kiki for a night when I was here last year, and am trying to find her current cell phone number. I know a number of you guys have seen her, so if you've got any current info, please PM me. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I had Kiki for a night when I was here last year, and am trying to find her current cell phone number. I know a number of you guys have seen her, so if you've got any current info, please PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]


Did you ask our brother who introduced her to you? If he doesn't have it, I'm afraid, you'll have to make a trip to Cinere :D

[QUOTE=Menteng]Did you ask our brother who introduced her to you? If he doesn't have it, I'm afraid, you'll have to make a trip to Cinere :D[/QUOTE]

He already got my pm - didn't know you & JAD knew her....what a dummy I am!

Kiki was the one that I 'stood up' my last night - when we ended up at Blok M playing pool ;)

Next visit I'm going to try get her and a Ms. Lin for a 3-some....LOL

I note that "Love Happens" is shutting up shop on the 31st of May. It might be worthwhile taking one last visit, hitting the search function and adopting the shotgun approach. I made up a fairly generic email message including contact details and sent it out to just about every half decent looking bird on the forum as a sort of closing down sale, everything must go, no decent offer refused approach.

For any of you with membership it might be worth trying this out as there's still quite a few lookers on there and it would be a shame not to make full use of such a resource before it finishes up.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Did you ask our brother who introduced her to you? If he doesn't have it, I'm afraid, you'll have to make a trip to Cinere :D[/QUOTE]

Well JAD deleted her cell phone number after she pissed him off. I'm sure I could track down A on Jl Jaksa, though. A helpful member has PMed me the cell number he had for her, so hopefully it's valid.

I don't know what/where Cinere is, but I'm sure it's funny! ;)

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Well JAD deleted her cell phone number after she pissed him off. I'm sure I could track down A on Jl Jaksa, though. A helpful member has PMed me the cell number he had for her, so hopefully it's valid.

I don't know what/where Cinere is, but I'm sure it's funny! ;)[/QUOTE]


I have her number which was current up to 2 months ago. The rate they change numbers in Jakarta though might make it totally meaningless. Good luck bro.

MD II

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]

I don't know what/where Cinere is, but I'm sure it's funny! ;)[/QUOTE]


The Kiki you´re looking for lives (lived?) there. Going there is not as much fun as going to Subang, which a good friend made with JAD not so long ago. Especially during the day, the trip to this suburb of Jakarta is a disaster.

BTW, bro Traveler, the Kiki you mentioned might be a different one. But I´m sure bro JC doesn´t mind if she is as willing as the one from Cinere. And I mean, no limits!

[QUOTE=Dorman]I note that "Love Happens" is shutting up shop on the 31st of May. It might be worthwhile taking one last visit, hitting the search function and adopting the shotgun approach. I made up a fairly generic email message including contact details and sent it out to just about every half decent looking bird on the forum as a sort of closing down sale, everything must go, no decent offer refused approach.

For any of you with membership it might be worth trying this out as there's still quite a few lookers on there and it would be a shame not to make full use of such a resource before it finishes up.[/QUOTE]


Hmm, members only? Sounds like the VIP-room of the former D´s Place.

[QUOTE=Menteng]
BTW, bro Traveler, the Kiki you mentioned might be a different one. But I´m sure bro JC doesn´t mind if she is as willing as the one from Cinere. And I mean, no limits![/QUOTE]


LOL, you are probably right. But it's strange that JC wasn't able to connect as the number I pm him was working when I was visiting last trip with you/JAD. She hadn't changed that number for at least 18 months.....

Damn, I miss her already :D

I will be back to Jakarta soon. Is BATS still a good hunting ground, or has another bar taken its place?

Woodman

[QUOTE=Woodman]I will be back to Jakarta soon. Is BATS still a good hunting ground, or has another bar taken its place?

Woodman[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

BATS is as always good if you are hunting for lower class girls for a higher price, and if you are of the lighter, no tan skin you would score better with them also; if not be prepare to pay a levy out and over the normal price.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Hmm, members only? Sounds like the VIP-room of the former D´s Place.[/QUOTE]

No, as far as I remember it costs nothing to join, you can sign in instantly, there you'll find a couple of hundred pages of photos of available women in Jakarta (well when I say "available" I mean girls willing to meet new friends, it's up to yourself how you play it from there).

It would be a shame to let such a data base go without mining it extensively over the next week or so.

[QUOTE=Woodman]I will be back to Jakarta soon. Is BATS still a good hunting ground, or has another bar taken its place?[/QUOTE]

Do a search for CJs at Mulia Hotel in Senayan. It's just as good a hunting ground, probably a bit cheaper, and a better pub as well.

[QUOTE=Menteng].... Going there is not as much fun as going to Subang, which a good friend made with JAD not so long ago.[/QUOTE]
:D. That killed me mate!

Anyway, Ms. C called me a weel ago. She asked me how are you doing *love sick puppy*. I told her that you are in Medellin and you deleted her number thinking she's seeing her Bule boss *jealous*. :D

This Chinese woman has a managerial job in Kuningan, drives her own car, and owns a two storey house at Kelapa Gading. I think all she wants is your body mate. :D

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I had Kiki for a night when I was here last year, and am trying to find her current cell phone number. I know a number of you guys have seen her, so if you've got any current info, please PM me. Thanks![/QUOTE]
Judging by the thread you have this sorted but I know of a Blok M girl with that name..

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Judging by the thread you have this sorted but I know of a Blok M girl with that name..[/QUOTE]

Well, I've got one phone number for her, but it's not working. The Kiki I'm talking about is a late 20's lady, that has considerable oral talents, and the stamina to go all night.

Hopefully I'll get a working phone number before I leave next week.

I'm leaving in 5 days, so would like to still connect with Kiki before I leave. The only phone number I have for her ends with 5636, so if you have a different number for her, please PM me, or if you have a current number for Ari. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Woodman]I will be back to Jakarta soon. Is BATS still a good hunting ground, or has another bar taken its place?

Woodman[/QUOTE]

I had occasion to visit BATS last evening and I was amazed at how much the place had gone downhill in the past year or so. By the time I left at 10.30pm there were about seventy western men there, probably 30% of whom were under the age of 50, at the same time there weren't more than a dozen or so women, and only one of them could be called remotely attractive, she was a tall, slim, long haired dark skinned girl who came in with a young lad who looked like Harry Potter. I spent the evening looking at Eva the bar maid who was the cutest looking available female there.

Very poor indeed, I remember when there were girls in BATS who asked for one million and whom you might have considered paying for a brief second but please tell me none of this lot are asking that, I wouldn't give 'em 200k in the Club in Blok M.

[QUOTE=Menteng]The Kiki you´re looking for lives (lived?) there. Going there is not as much fun as going to Subang, which a good friend made with JAD not so long ago. Especially during the day, the trip to this suburb of Jakarta is a disaster.
[/QUOTE]

Maybe next time we should all go and spend a night in Subang? I will limit myself to a liquid diet - seeing as I'm horrendously fussy about toilet facilities. It would be fun to join you over coffee in the morning :D. But then again I'm not sure - you might have exhausted the mother as well! ;)

MD II

[QUOTE=Dorman]I had occasion to visit BATS last evening and I was amazed at how much the place had gone downhill in the past year or so. By the time I left at 10.30pm there were about seventy western men there, probably 30% of whom were under the age of 50, at the same time there weren't more than a dozen or so women, and only one of them could be called remotely attractive, she was a tall, slim, long haired dark skinned girl who came in with a young lad who looked like Harry Potter. I spent the evening looking at Eva the bar maid who was the cutest looking available female there.

Very poor indeed, I remember when there were girls in BATS who asked for one million and whom you might have considered paying for a brief second but please tell me none of this lot are asking that, I wouldn't give 'em 200k in the Club in Blok M.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Don't scare the bro away hahaha. , maybe BATS is the safest place they feel like going. Have to agree it has gone down, but not because there is too many western men, but too few girls that goes there, there are lots of other new places springing up, that will put BATS and CJ's to shame, but that is another story.

MY humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]I'm leaving in 5 days, so would like to still connect with Kiki before I leave. The only phone number I have for her ends with 5636, so if you have a different number for her, please PM me, or if you have a current number for Ari. Thanks![/QUOTE]Sorry bro, I think that's the number I have. Good luck in your mission, she really does have stamina for all night and she likes g-spot stimulation too. If you get her, you might want to pick up the Durex vibreating ring I see on sale in Jakarta nowadays - she will appreciate it.

MD II

Hi bro,

Could someone help me here, I want to know if you could eat sushi off a nude girl, is it true and where is it and how much it cost.

Many thanks,

My humble two cents.

As of midnight, fuel price is going up by 30%

Would be a good benchmark for all to let's benchmark or find relationship between fuel price and the hike in our meat price?

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Hi bro,

Could someone help me here, I want to know if you could eat sushi off a nude girl, is it true and where is it and how much it cost.

Many thanks,

My humble two cents.[/QUOTE]


Let me see! An all nighter will be around 500K rups. Add 100K worth of sushi from Sushi Tei and there you have your price.

Seriously now, I've heard that kind of rumours and maybe some brother can inform us.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]Maybe next time we should all go and spend a night in Subang? I will limit myself to a liquid diet - seeing as I'm horrendously fussy about toilet facilities. It would be fun to join you over coffee in the morning :D. But then again I'm not sure - you might have exhausted the mother as well! ;)

MD II[/QUOTE]

You mean: the mother would have had me exhausted :) Anyway, performing charity sex always pays, even when it's only worth a cup of coffee.


[QUOTE=Master Diver II]If you get her, you might want to pick up the Durex vibreating ring I see on sale in Jakarta nowadays - she will appreciate it.
[/QUOTE]

I do hope that the rubber ring is stronger than the last one I had. Or did Durex only think of calm female hedonists when producing it? :D

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]you might want to pick up the Durex vibrating ring I see on sale in Jakarta nowadays
MD II[/QUOTE]

Where can they be had in Jkt - send me a pm ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Where can they be had in Jkt - send me a pm ;)[/QUOTE]Most pharmacies sell them nowadays - the pack looks like a condom pack. They even sell them in Dubai. Just a latex band with a mini-battery-operated vibrator attached. Good fun, and the girls love 'em.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Most pharmacies sell them nowadays - the pack looks like a condom pack. They even sell them in Dubai. Just a latex band with a mini-battery-operated vibrator attached. Good fun, and the girls love 'em.[/QUOTE]Hi Bro,

The picture looks good, do you mind sharing that girl info?

Thanks,

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Could someone help me here, I want to know if you could eat sushi off a nude girl, is it true and where is it and how much it cost.[/QUOTE]
1001. 2 million Rp. Now they serve fruits instead of sashimi.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]1001. 2 million Rp. Now they serve fruits instead of sashimi.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Thank you very much, will try it out and file a report.

My humble two cents.

Today country Lokasari Plaza

Now this is what I call cheap fun.

Went to Lokasari Plaza, straight to 2 floor of the mall then went out through the parking lot exit and the TC sign was right there. However to get in, have to walk up the ramp to the next level from there and the entrance is clearly identified. Went in paid 30k at the door, load music lots of girls not that high in quality so lower my expectation, had a few beer and they cost only 18k per drink (first free with coupon). Pretty dark to make out who is who but many area with decent lighting. 250k seems to be going rate inc room and condom.

At 5pm suddenly atmosphere changed with 4 sexy dancers started. They are quiet stunning, a 7-8 to be more exact. Just a topless exercise and they also walk around coming around rubbing bodies to your chest (sort off) asking for drink which would cost you 50k. After the first session of dance then the second group started. Also very good looking with very nice body and also topless exercise. Not a bad show. Since my Bahasa is pretty useless, found no problem moving around this place since the misic was so loud no one can understand a damn thing you said anyway. Tried mumbling and one of the girl was nodding as if she understood what I didn't said. Mama came to me a push one of the girl to me, nice face, young and with big boobs so went for her just to tried out the place.

Went down stair through one door and a cashier was there, paid the 250k upfront and got a room. Not flashy but seeing that they change new sheet before walked inside so can pass as clean. Room not small with in-room shower so over all pass the hygience test. Session nothing to talk about. Body not that great but boobs really large. Need to 2 hands to held one. Being non fuzzy monger. Not like the body, no prob, turn her around and just doggied for the whole session.

Overall, my suggestion for those never come here is this is the place in Kota you should try at least once, look rough but quite safe, situate inside mall with cheap goods to buy, come around 4. 30pm pick a good seat at the bar and enjoy the show. This is the place you come looking for very young kampung girls looking for some side money, many non-pro student type (also many old pro to be fair) but don't expect model-like quality.

When one of those pretty dancer came over asking me for a drink, I asked how much to the room and she did said the price which I couldn't understood. I said Barapa and she said at#$%. Sound like 500k to me with the Lima sound. If someone can tell me what would be her likely answer (could be get stuff and I would think number anyway). Wouldn't mind spending 500k on those ultra thin, big boobs girls anytime. Also didn't buy them any drink because not sure what would happen next, would they just kiss you terima Kasih and then walk away laughing or what! My take is there is likely possibility everytime a young and naked girl standing5inches from you that she didn't want to ask for direction. So please contribute to my incomplete one. Ta

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[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]1001. 2 million Rp. Now they serve fruits instead of sashimi.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]

Hmmm, brother Aakumu, looks like my solution will provide at least 4 girls, not to mention if you will only have ST's.

[QUOTE=Barson]Also didn't buy them any drink because not sure what would happen next, would they just kiss you terima Kasih and then walk away laughing or what! My take is there is likely possibility everytime a young and naked girl standing5inches from you that she didn't want to ask for direction. So please contribute to my incomplete one. Ta

[/QUOTE]

You pay for a drink and that allows you to give the girls' tits a bit of a fondle for a brief moment, you're right they are quite hot but I don't think you can get them to go back with you, I asked a mama and she said you could probably give them your number and hope they'll get in touch, so I did that and they didn't!

[QUOTE=Barson]look rough but quite safe[/QUOTE]

Quite safe? Wasn't that place raided by the police more than once not too long ago? Other than that, I agree that it's safe. But it's so dark, you need to bring a pen light with you to see what type of girl is seated with you.

Dear Sirs (especially Oyenk or Spearsman)

I am heading back to Jakarta in June after having had an awesome trip there last time. I have lost my previous notes from this site about the directions to Kartika...Please could someone be so kind as to repost the directons as I have searched thoroughly on this site and cant find them now. Also it would be very kind if someone could post a one line summary on the setup at Stadium Nightclub (price and modus operandi). I have searched but cannot find the previous information that I used for my last trip and I really do appreciate your help with this as you do need to know where to go and how to get there.

Many Thanks indeed.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Just a latex band with a mini-battery-operated vibrator attached. .[/QUOTE]Now, please no howls of laughter at a bro mongerer trying to learn something new. I guess you use this in conjunction with a condom, just slip it over the top? Is the actual name durex vibrating ring or what would I ask for (having bad memories of the reaction when I asked the girl at the local guardian if they stored durian flavoured condoms, I don't want to be stoned again.)

With thanks,

Fieldmouse

[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Dear Sirs (especially Oyenk or Spearsman)

I am heading back to Jakarta in June after having had an awesome trip there last time. I have lost my previous notes from this site about the directions to Kartika...Please could someone be so kind as to repost the directons as I have searched thoroughly on this site and cant find them now. Also it would be very kind if someone could post a one line summary on the setup at Stadium Nightclub (price and modus operandi). I have searched but cannot find the previous information that I used for my last trip and I really do appreciate your help with this as you do need to know where to go and how to get there.

Many Thanks indeed.[/QUOTE]
The easiest way is to find the Mercure Grand Rekso hotel on Jalan Hayam Wuruk, just north of Jalan Mangga Besar and directly in front of the Olimo stop of the Transjakarta busway.

Stand in front of the hotel with the hotel behind you, and turn left. Walk down 50 meters, cross Jalan Mangga Besar and keep walking down Jalan Hayam Wuruk. The building on your left will have an Indomart convenience store, an Alfamart convenience store, and a CFC (California Fried Chicken) store.

After this building is an alley on your left, Alley #1. Look down and you should easily see the signs for Kartika and Berlian massage parlors, also Royal Mas mp.

If you don't turn left, the next building will have Suisse Bakery on the corner, then 3 more alleys on your left (alleys #2, 3 & 4). Alley #2 is where you'll find several mps, including the mp where the girl who does the Madura squeeze works (see recent posts by Oyenk and me on this subject). Alley #4 is where you'll find the entrance to Stadium; at this point you'll have reached the Mangga Besar stop of the busway.

Cindy is still #1 here, I've always enjoyed Rista and Sonia, plenty others to choose from. A surprise recommendation: check out Nina, just ok looking with a very muscular build (sort of like a short Venus Williams) but absolutely tops in the service department.

Send me a PM when you get in and we'll get together.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy]Dear Sirs (especially Oyenk or Spearsman)

I am heading back to Jakarta in June after having had an awesome trip there last time. I have lost my previous notes from this site about the directions to Kartika...Please could someone be so kind as to repost the directons as I have searched thoroughly on this site and cant find them now. Also it would be very kind if someone could post a one line summary on the setup at Stadium Nightclub (price and modus operandi). I have searched but cannot find the previous information that I used for my last trip and I really do appreciate your help with this as you do need to know where to go and how to get there.

Many Thanks indeed.[/QUOTE]
Hi Bowerboy...

please don't call me Sir !
just Oyenk or Oyenk bro...

I believe Mighty Spearsman bro has explained detail about two places, for rate WG in Stadium around 257,000 til 270,000 rupiahs...

Stadium has discoteque, cafe...in which Kartika does not have. But for service (Soapy massage) and the girl I recommend Kartika.
Stadium is one stop shopping (only win this I think).

Enjoy your stay Bowerboy.

Thanks guys, really apreciate the information and directions...loved Jakarta before and I am sure it will be great this time round too..probably the premier mongering destination in SEA at the moment as far as I am concerned!!!

Yeah its a ring that slips over the condom and as you are wedged up against her the small vibrations help her arousal.

But by far the better way is to actually place it inside her pussy lips. Then its really up close against the clit. And this seems to work a total treat!

Arriving in Jakarta on Sat, May 31. My first time in Indonesia, but I've been all over Asia and Latin America. I've been reading this forum and others, and have some plans. But I'd like to meet fellow ISG guys for a drink or two, on me.

My 3-5 days in Jakarta, and 2 weeks in Indonesia, will include tourist stuff as well as girls. Trying to pick a hotel and any advice is welcome. Need internet. Thinking about:

Hotel Ibis Tamarind for Rp405k w/breakfast, nr National Monument (Monas); Hotel Melawi, with its 6th floor, near Block M, maybe Rp310-400k;
Hotel Maharaja, Rp350k.

I'd welcome any suggestions on hotels, or current prices. Hope to meet a few of you.

[QUOTE=Menteng]Let me see! An all nighter will be around 500K rups. Add 100K worth of sushi from Sushi Tei and there you have your price.
[/QUOTE]
I like your thinking bro:).

[QUOTE=Menteng]You mean: the mother would have had me exhausted Anyway, performing charity sex always pays, even when it's only worth a cup of coffee.

I do hope that the rubber ring is stronger than the last one I had. Or did Durex only think of calm female hedonists when producing it?[/QUOTE]
I'd be worried whether the mother would have the energy to make the coffee

The version of the durex ring sold in Jakarta looks stronger - hmmm wonder why? Like I mentioned earlier, the one sold in Jakarta is only the ring. In Malaysia, they sell it as durex play together with a condom.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Where can they be had in Jkt - send me a pm[/QUOTE]
I bought mine in Century pharmacy in Plaza Semanggi. I'm pretty sure they're available in most pharmacies. At worst, it gives you an opening line with the girls there.

[QUOTE=Piper1]Most pharmacies sell them nowadays - the pack looks like a condom pack. They even sell them in Dubai. Just a latex band with a mini-battery-operated vibrator attached. Good fun, and the girls love 'em.[/QUOTE]
Looks like the durex play

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]1001. 2 million Rp. Now they serve fruits instead of sashimi.
JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
That's a pity - where do we go to find fish? After all, we want fresh cumi cumi, and fish - not the ikan kering factory - unless your nick is Panya;).

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Now, please no howls of laughter at a bro mongerer trying to learn something new. I guess you use this in conjunction with a condom, just slip it over the top? Is the actual name durex vibrating ring or what would I ask for (having bad memories of the reaction when I asked the girl at the local guardian if they stored durian flavoured condoms, I don't want to be stoned again.)Fieldmouse[/QUOTE]
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! If the girl was quite sweet, you could have taken advantage of the situation bro. If I remember correctly it was just durex vibrating ring, sold in one of those metalised packs right next to all the condoms. I have to admit that some of the girls in Century had smiles on their faces - maybe I should have asked them if they wanted to try? :D

MD II

I think a lot depends on how nice of a room you'd like to get. I've stayed at 190k places in Lokasari that were okay, but nothing special. I don't think many hotels have Internet included here. I know at my 4-5* hotel I'm in now, it's $18US a day. However, I can get free wifi by having my computer near a window.

I would try and pick an area that you like, and then get a hotel nearby. Block M, Plaza Indonesia or Lokasari are the areas I usually stay in.

In Block M, the cheapest place I stayed at was the Golden Boutique Hotel, soon after they opened. I think it was 400k, but prices may have risen. The Ambhara at 600k was nicer, of course.

The Kaha booking booth at the airport has some very good deals. I'd try to make a list of 5-6 hotels and then book then, unless you're arriving at a very busy time.

[QUOTE=Dboy]Arriving in Jakarta on Sat, May 31. My first time in Indonesia, but I've been all over Asia and Latin America. I've been reading this forum and others, and have some plans. But I'd like to meet fellow ISG guys for a drink or two, on me.

My 3-5 days in Jakarta, and 2 weeks in Indonesia, will include tourist stuff as well as girls. Trying to pick a hotel and any advice is welcome. Need internet. Thinking about:

Hotel Ibis Tamarind for Rp405k w/breakfast, nr National Monument (Monas); Hotel Melawi, with its 6th floor, near Block M, maybe Rp310-400k;
Hotel Maharaja, Rp350k.

I'd welcome any suggestions on hotels, or current prices. Hope to meet a few of you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dorman]You pay for a drink and that allows you to give the girls' tits a bit of a fondle for a brief moment, you're right they are quite hot but I don't think you can get them to go back with you, I asked a mama and she said you could probably give them your number and hope they'll get in touch, so I did that and they didn't![/QUOTE]Really? Are you saying they are pro-dancers who don't take customers?

Come on mate. This is against the law of physic here, .oh well.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Hi bro,

Could someone help me here, I want to know if you could eat sushi off a nude girl, is it true and where is it and how much it cost.

Many thanks,

My humble two cents.[/QUOTE]

Is it true that your username in TheBanker's forum is adu69 ?

cheers.

MTR is one of four similar places in Pangeran Jayakarta (Komplex Kota Indah). It now seems to have a condom policy. The girl would convince offenders (barebackers) that they should first give the condom a try. If this didn't work she would finish him off with a blowjob.

For those who go bareback the rule regarding VD infection, which I verified this time at my own expense, is not "the cheaper the riskier" but "the more freelance the riskier". That's where mamasans, rightly critisised for their incompetence when it comes to introductions, come into their own: they exercise a health watch over girls under their pupillage. Another thing: if a girl goes "sakit" at some point, don't infer you have the biggest cock in the world. Nearly all the girls who ever gave me Chlamydia complained of pains, especially in the doggy-style position.

Waiting for the antibiotic to make me symptom-free I went for straight massages. Handjobs are not just an inferior type of sexual activity. If performed right they can be just as fulfilling and mind-blowing as intercourse. Number 36 at Delta Spa (center Wijajah, a 15 minutes' drive from Blok M Melawai) is a case in point. Not only was her HJ memorable but her foot massage rid me of my upper-back stiffness. She also introduced me to the hot stone massage which I had been wrong never to try out before.

Alexis is an upper-range place in Ancol that reminds me of the now defunct 1001 (Hayam Wuruk) in that I am not welcome there. I get seated well away from the girls and served a fizzled out coca cola. This is the kind of joint where one is absolutely required to spend substantial money on one's first visit if one wants to be welcome later. All the same, my feeling is that bules, regardless of their spending habits, are not the preferred customers. Prices are not far from the million Rp even for domestic girls and I suspect tips of yet another million are not unusual, indeed expected. Among the local girls I recognised one of my former regulars from Sari Ayu (250 thousands at the time, now 800 thousands). Low- to mid-range places belonging to the same business group have a policy of upgrading the more popular girls to posh places like Alexis, Sumo etc.

Right in front of Café Batavia stands a place that used to be called "Pink House". It has seen better days, probably when the action in JKT was concentrated in that part of town. It has not improved since my last, inconclusive visit a couple of years ago. Sour-faced mamasans greeted us in mid-afternoon in a dusty, dark atmosphere. Average and with "slave-labour" written all over them, the dozen or so available girls were not at all eager to be picked out by customers, preferring to sulk on their dilapidated sofas.

Traffic jams keep gnawing at the monger's time budget. Spending three hours each day watching bumpers from a cramped Mercedes Silver Bird is unavoidable unless you want to spend the day in your hotel. Traffic is reputed to improve on week-ends but then there will often be a "demo" these days. Demonstrations on week-ends and holidays have threatened to become a permanent feature since the government decided to raise fuel prices.

At one in the morning I explored the scene along the canal across from Shangri-La where I was staying. Homeless tarts sit there all night, about one every twenty-five yards, none of them good-looking or clean-looking enough to make bringing them to my hotel room a realistic proposition. Some of them have makeshift "rooms" nearby in the open air. The remarkable thing is that I could've walked for hours along that stinking canal without ever being in any physical danger. In a similar place in South America I would've been tortured and murdered within minutes.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]

I have to admit that some of the girls in Century had smiles on their faces -

[/QUOTE]

Wasn't that because they were imagening a night with you and the ring? :D

[QUOTE=Barson]Really? Are you saying they are pro-dancers who don't take customers?

Come on mate. This is against the law of physic here, .oh well.[/QUOTE]

No, I merely stated that I don't think they're willing to go back to one of the cabins with you there and then. I daresay if they're interested in you they'll be happy to meet somewhere else later but they don't strike me as the type who will go for a quick "masuk" for 250k in Today Country.

If I'm wrong I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten us.

[QUOTE=Barson]Really? Are you saying they are pro-dancers who don't take customers?

Come on mate. This is against the law of physic here, .oh well.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

That is funny.

But seriously, some of these girls do have have a rich sugar daddy that have bodyguard, so take care when thinking of getting near to these dancing girls.
That is what I have heard.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]But seriously, some of these girls do have have a rich sugar daddy that have bodyguard, so take care when thinking of getting near to these dancing girls.[/QUOTE]
Aakumu,

Actually, you can have these dancers at Malioboro for 1.3 million Rp. for 1 hour 30 minutes.

I have no idea how much they got paid for dancing. But, Malioboro have 6 shows a day (2 in the pool area and 4 in the lounge) and from Tequila and rose games alone every girl should make at least 3 million a day.

There are at least 8 upmarket spas in Jakarta. Only 2 are doing well: Malioboro and Alexis Hotel. Malioboro is the only one with 350K for 1 hour local collections apart from the 800K and 1 million for 1 hour 30 minutes local collections and 1.5 million for 1 hour 30 minutes Ruskies, Uzbeks, Thais and PRCs.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]every girl should make at least 3 million a day.[/QUOTE]

And let me guess... After the mamasan and establishment get their cuts, the girl ends up with 100k a day.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]And let me guess... After the mamasan and establishment get their cuts, the girl ends up with 100k a day.[/QUOTE]From what I have heard from the girls at Sands, the girls almost all have very powerful boyfriend, which I do not want to mess with.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Member #3088]Visited Ibu Linda in Kota recently in a vain attempt to find a reasonably attractive woman willing to do anal. Ibu Linda is a pretty good setup: fishbowl with 20 or so mostly plump 30ish women. I chose once that wasn't so plump, and was perhaps in her late 20s. She wasn't smiling. Mistake to choose her.complained. Wanted me to 'cepat keluar' (come quickly). What a pain. I could have been in America! Jeezzh.[/QUOTE]

I recently visited this PP. The girls were younger than expected given what I read on this forum about it. But none of them was really cute or had a nice body.

I chose Margareta (late 20's, from Bandung, big tits compared to local standard). She told me that no girl there was doing anal. Maybe she was lying just to prevent me from chosing another one next time. Anyway I'm unlikeky to chose her again as she spent most of the session answering phone calls and even sending SMS. Difficult to come in this environment she then agreed for CIM.

DC : 250k + 50k undeserved tip.

Facilities : rather poor, no toilet in the room, need refurbishment.

a short report on berlian (next to kartika).

i went there last month and had a soapy massage session with a girl called lisa. late 20's, big tits, she's a bugis from south sulawesi.

all i can say is that if you feel like being raped by a woman's tongue, try her.
in addition, she is really nice and enjoy talking but my poor bahasa didn't allow me to get most of what she said.

but i would suggest you to call and book her (unfortunately i don't have the number) as when i came back there last week for another session she told me that one of her customer had called to book her and was about to arrive.
she added that it happened quite often.

dc : 250k + 100k well deserved tip.

facilities : very average but clean.

I went to Jaspa last week for a 1 hour massage session. No HJ requested by me or proposed by the girl, believe it or not I just needed a relax moment.

During the discussion I had with her I learned that one of the girl had just been fired by the boss for doing a HJ. Apparently the boss knew about the HJ because of cum left on the towels used to clean the body from massage oil.

I'm a bit surprised. For 2 reasons.

First: she said it explained the drop in the number of customers (indeed the place was not as busy as usual) as HJ was no longer on offer. But how could customers be aware of the situation as the incident had taken place only a few days before? Second: did the boss really need to find sperm on a towel to know about what' was going on in the rooms? LOL. Unless his decision to fire on the spot one of the employee (working there for 4 or 5 years) is a message sent to all the customers, a message saying that new rules had been set and that Jaspa was from now on a "respectable" place?

Did any bro go to that place recently or know something that I may have missed due to my poor knowledge of bahasa (and the girl's more than poor knowledge of english)?

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Mates, coming back after a terrific weekend in Jakarta, some highlights...

Went again two times in the afternoon to the area around train station Tanah Abang and met a "long time friend"…

Well performed BBBJ in a rundown hotel room, 70k for the girl and 20k for the room. Excellent value for money, but nothing for the faint hearted.[/QUOTE]
Ekspat's post is from December 11, 2007 but I only recently had the chance to explore this area one afternoon. Yes, not for the faint-hearted! in fact, this is the "lowest-end" experience I've had in several years, lower than my visits to Kali Jodo in Jakarta and to Dolly in Surabaya.

Note: all conversations & discussions were in Bahasa Indonesian, no English whatsoever here.

Easy to do; I started at the Tanah Abang station itself and started walking south (with the large yellow-and-green Tanah Abang market building on my left).

Within 75 meters I came across a little roadside cafe on my left that sold drinks, under a blue plastic awning. A middle-aged woman called for me to buy a drink, and I immediately saw that there were 8 or 9 women under the awning, so I figured that this must be the place mentioned by Ekspat. I then saw two signs for rundown hotels right after the café, further proof that I was in the right place.

Most of the women were overweight and 35+ in age, pleasant company to sit and chit-chat with while I drank a Coca-Cola, but not anyone I’d want to have a FS session with. Then, I noticed that one of the ladies in the back looked a lot younger, late 20s, and was much better-looking; in fact she looked liked the Disney character “Pocahantas.”

The lady in charge immediately saw that I had noticed “Pocahantas” and started talking the girl up, saying “Mister, good service, you like?” to which I nodded yes. I played dumb and said “where would we go” and she replied by pointing to one of the next-door hotels and said “hotel, room short-time 25,000 rupiah.” So I said ok, let me finish my drink.

What transpired next was a bit surreal. The younger girl, whose name was either Rena or Reni (can’t remember for sure) asked me openly in front of everyone “so how much money are you going to give me?” to which I replied “how much do you want?” She replied “300,000 rupiah” to which I replied “too high, much too high” and we continued haggling from there, all out in the open in front of everyone, as if I was shopping for fruit or a carpet. Obviously it was no big deal to them, but still strange to me.

Rena/Reni refused to go below 200,000 rupiah, so I replied “final offer 100,000 rupiah, with tip if service is good.” She said no so I got up to leave, so she immediately agreed to my final offer and off we went.

The FS session itself was actually pretty good, she had a decent body with above-averaged sized tits, and provided good service. Several downsides: she absolutely refused to do any oral on me, also she didn’t have a condom (luckily I did have one) and of course the hotel room was an absolute dump. The sheet didn’t look very clean and we were given only one small towel between the two of us.

Would I repeat? Probably not, unless I picked up Rena/Reni and brought her in a taxi to someplace nicer. But when I figure in that it cost me 100,000 rupiah + 50,000 tip + 25,000 for the hotel room, plus taxi fare to and from this somewhat out-of-the-way place, it’s not much cheaper than taking the Transjakarta bus and going to Kartika or one of the other MPs in Kota. Plus, although I am not shy or a prude, I felt very conspicuous and out in the open as the only foreigner in the area, realing as I walked in and out of the hotel that everyone in sight (over 50 people) knew exactly what I was doing.

P.S. Talked a bit with Rena/Reni after the FS ended, she’s worked there for one year now, averages two customers a day (one in the afternoon, one in the evening), rarely uses a condom and had never had a “bule” (foreigner) customer before.

[QUOTE=Dorman]No, I merely stated that I don't think they're willing to go back to one of the cabins with you there and then. I daresay if they're interested in you they'll be happy to meet somewhere else later but they don't strike me as the type who will go for a quick "masuk" for 250k in Today Country.

If I'm wrong I'm sure you'll be able to enlighten us.[/QUOTE]Thanks Dorman for your input. Will try to find out the next time. However, unlikely that i will be interested if they dace around too much.

Interesting story Mighty, made me shudder a bit at the "low end" situation.

Did you happen to ask Reni how much she charges her "Orang Lokal" ? just curious.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]

P.S. Talked a bit with Rena/Reni after the FS ended, she’s worked there for one year now, averages two customers a day (one in the afternoon, one in the evening),[b] rarely uses a condom[/b] and had never had a “bule” (foreigner) customer before.[/QUOTE]

As did a girl I've seen around on Jaksa a bit of late (I drink there and know a few of the girls). Condition of her skin and bad cough confirms what others have told me, full blown AIDS. Buyer beware of this type. I don't mean to be the grinch or one of safe sex boosters, but there is a need to be aware this shit is out there.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Ekspat's post is from December 11, 2007 but I only recently had the chance to explore this area one afternoon. Yes, not for the faint-hearted! in fact, this is the "lowest-end" experience I've had in several years, lower than my visits to Kali Jodo in Jakarta and to Dolly in Surabaya.

Note: all conversations & discussions were in Bahasa Indonesian, no English whatsoever here.

Easy to do; I started at the Tanah Abang station itself and started walking south (with the large yellow-and-green Tanah Abang market building on my left).

Within 75 meters I came across a little roadside cafe on my left that sold drinks, under a blue plastic awning. A middle-aged woman called for me to buy a drink, and I immediately saw that there were 8 or 9 women under the awning, so I figured that this must be the place mentioned by Ekspat. I then saw two signs for rundown hotels right after the café, further proof that I was in the right place.

Most of the women were overweight and 35+ in age, pleasant company to sit and chit-chat with while I drank a Coca-Cola, but not anyone I’d want to have a FS session with. Then, I noticed that one of the ladies in the back looked a lot younger, late 20s, and was much better-looking; in fact she looked liked the Disney character “Pocahantas.”

The lady in charge immediately saw that I had noticed “Pocahantas” and started talking the girl up, saying “Mister, good service, you like?” to which I nodded yes. I played dumb and said “where would we go” and she replied by pointing to one of the next-door hotels and said “hotel, room short-time 25,000 rupiah.” So I said ok, let me finish my drink.

What transpired next was a bit surreal. The younger girl, whose name was either Rena or Reni (can’t remember for sure) asked me openly in front of everyone “so how much money are you going to give me?” to which I replied “how much do you want?” She replied “300,000 rupiah” to which I replied “too high, much too high” and we continued haggling from there, all out in the open in front of everyone, as if I was shopping for fruit or a carpet. Obviously it was no big deal to them, but still strange to me.

Rena/Reni refused to go below 200,000 rupiah, so I replied “final offer 100,000 rupiah, with tip if service is good.” She said no so I got up to leave, so she immediately agreed to my final offer and off we went.

The FS session itself was actually pretty good, she had a decent body with above-averaged sized tits, and provided good service. Several downsides: she absolutely refused to do any oral on me, also she didn’t have a condom (luckily I did have one) and of course the hotel room was an absolute dump. The sheet didn’t look very clean and we were given only one small towel between the two of us.

Would I repeat? Probably not, unless I picked up Rena/Reni and brought her in a taxi to someplace nicer. But when I figure in that it cost me 100,000 rupiah + 50,000 tip + 25,000 for the hotel room, plus taxi fare to and from this somewhat out-of-the-way place, it’s not much cheaper than taking the Transjakarta bus and going to Kartika or one of the other MPs in Kota. Plus, although I am not shy or a prude, I felt very conspicuous and out in the open as the only foreigner in the area, realing as I walked in and out of the hotel that everyone in sight (over 50 people) knew exactly what I was doing.

P.S. Talked a bit with Rena/Reni after the FS ended, she’s worked there for one year now, averages two customers a day (one in the afternoon, one in the evening), rarely uses a condom and had never had a “bule” (foreigner) customer before.[/QUOTE]

Mighty Spearman

Your enthusiasm for searching out new areas is truely commendable considering all the available talent on your doorstep...........Much respect!

Fellas

Can someone confirm if Hotel Travel has more than one area where the girls are? Last time i was there i remember walking in to the left of the loby and just going through some doors, however some members have posted about taking a lift to the second floor.

I am thinking of making a second Trip to Jakarta next month and i don't want to miss out a second time!

Cheers

[QUOTE=Prince2]Fellas

Can someone confirm if Hotel Travel has more than one area where the girls are? Last time i was there i remember walking in to the left of the loby and just going through some doors, however some members have posted about taking a lift to the second floor.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

I had the honor of being escorted by Menteng, Knight and JAD - there is a second floor with multiple pool tables, and at least 5 different sofa clusters of girls.

Ask for the VIP room - also check photo gallery of someone I tried back in Feb.

Good hunting ;)

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]I had the honor of being escorted by Menteng, Knight and JAD - there is a second floor with multiple pool tables, and at least 5 different sofa clusters of girls.

Ask for the VIP room - also check photo gallery of someone I tried back in Feb.

Good hunting ;)[/QUOTE]

Damn i can't believe i missed this! Do i access this area from the lifts in the main lobby area?

[QUOTE=Prince2]Damn i can't believe i missed this! Do i access this area from the lifts in the main lobby area?[/QUOTE]

Only visited once. If memory serves me correctly, you walk into main entrance, counters on your left. Make right turn, walk to the end and there are stairs to a mezzanine floor?

Maybe senior residents can help here - but you gotta be blind to miss it ;)

Jaimito - Every time I try a new country, you have already been there and have lots of good advice. Amazing.

I will arrive in Jakarta on 5/31 in the morning. I'll have about 5 hotels in mind and use Kaha at the airport to check prices, per your suggestion.

Couple more quick questions for you or others. Are shorts acceptable in Jakarta? Do I need an onward ticket when I arrive SIN-Jakarta?

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=1Ball]Interesting story Mighty, made me shudder a bit at the "low end" situation.

Did you happen to ask Reni how much she charges her "Orang Lokal" ? just curious.[/QUOTE]
Yes, the topic came up, she claimed that she would charge a local 100,000 rupiah, not sure how true this is, might be lower, probably depends on how much she needs the cash.

Can't really blame her for trying to make a windfall profit from the first foreigner she's ever f-cked. Also, I spent almost a full hour with her, those tits were fun to play with, once she got "warmed up" her service was great, and she was interesting to talk with after the deed. I suspect that most locals would spend 10 minutes or less with her, and ultimately we guys are paying for the girl's time.

I still don't think I'll go back, too many other, better options in Jakarta, once here is enough!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Ekspat's post is from December 11, 2007 but I only recently had the chance to explore this area one afternoon. Yes, not for the faint-hearted! in fact, this is the "lowest-end" experience I've had in several years, lower than my visits to Kali Jodo in Jakarta and to Dolly in Surabaya.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations. I also went to that area over the past few weeks, but I chickened out. It just looked TOO low rent for me, I'm afraid. My Indo is pretty good, but I still thought, why the hell aren't I down in Kota instead?

Great report, though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy]And let me guess... After the mamasan and establishment get their cuts, the girl ends up with 100k a day.[/QUOTE]
No Smoothy. Cut aplies only for the sexual service fees. And, if you read my post between the lines, the 3 million is basically tips disguise in Tequila and rose games, not fees for providing sexual service.

1 glass of Tequila or a rose cost 50K with a minimum 2 glasses of Tequila for lap dancing while most guys gave 6 glasses, few had more than one dancer. A minimum 6 roses for a dancer company in the pool area. And a minimum 8 roses for a dancer company in the shower.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

[quote=traveler1234]there is a second floor with multiple pool tables, and at least 5 different sofa clusters of girls.
[/quote]
i believe it was the same floor, yes...this room was new (last time i was there in nov'2007 and imho...travel management used pool area in early 2007). so ground floor is divided into two area...general area was in the left and pool tables area as described. in both area we may choose all wg.

if we wish to choose the therapist for massage, we should go to small resepsionist table in general area (see above)...and their numbers are hanged in the wall...but i don't recommend for massage here (in travel)...many complains i heard about therapists's attitude.

if you want to see the lady companionship for the karaoke, they are in the third floor...use the lift and stop in the third floor and turn your face to left...it is the lady companionship's room (many local chinese also as lady companionship).

cheers.

[quote=oyenk]i believe it was the same floor, yes...this room was new (last time i was there in nov'2007 and imho...travel management used pool area in early 2007). so ground floor is divided into two area...general area was in the left and pool tables area as described. in both area we may choose all wg.

if we wish to choose the therapist for massage, we should go to small resepsionist table in general area (see above)...and their numbers are hanged in the wall...but i don't recommend for massage here (in travel)...many complains i heard about therapists's attitude.

if you want to see the lady companionship for the karaoke, they are in the third floor...use the lift and stop in the third floor and turn your face to left...it is the lady companionship's room (many local chinese also as lady companionship).

cheers.[/quote]hi bro,

are you back?

when did you come back? nov 07, nice to have you back.

cheers

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Only visited once. If memory serves me correctly, you walk into main entrance, counters on your left. Make right turn, walk to the end and there are stairs to a mezzanine floor?

Maybe senior residents can help here - but you gotta be blind to miss it ;)[/QUOTE]

Thanks Travelr

I know the stairs you are talking about, on my second visit i started to go up them but was ushered down by the counter ladies and told to go in the main hall. Next time i'll stick to my guns and carry on up!

[quote=oyenk]i believe it was the same floor, yes...this room was new (last time i was there in nov'2007 and imho...travel management used pool area in early 2007). so ground floor is divided into two area...general area was in the left and pool tables area as described. in both area we may choose all wg.

if we wish to choose the therapist for massage, we should go to small resepsionist table in general area (see above)...and their numbers are hanged in the wall...but i don't recommend for massage here (in travel)...many complains i heard about therapists's attitude.

if you want to see the lady companionship for the karaoke, they are in the third floor...use the lift and stop in the third floor and turn your face to left...it is the lady companionship's room (many local chinese also as lady companionship).

cheers.[/quote]

ahh ok, that kinda makes sense as to why they stopped me going up the stairs in the reception area. thanks for the clarification

I would thoroughly recommend Ambhara Hotel. It is a very nice hotel right next to Blok M and is very girl friendly. It is about $100 pwer night. I stayed there on my first trip to Jakarta and will be staying there again in June.

No hotel in Jakarta is central to everything, so you have to make a choice either way. I feel confident to say that I guarentee you will not be disapointed if you stay at Ambhara, i would thoroughly recomend it as a hotel and also for its excellenet location particularly as I was in the same boat as you having never before been to jakarta and looking for a good hotel in good location and it worked perfectly for me.

Hi guys,

Anyone know or seen this Uzbek/Russian girl name Zarechnaya Arina?

If yes, kindly let me know.

Thanks bro.

'Happy Cheong"

Important news for anyone who plans to fly into or out of Jakarta on June 3rd & 4th (also June 5th), whether or not you're an American:

"The US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, informs American citizens that the World Bank warned that a record high tide is likely to flood North Jakarta next week. The tides are expected to be at an 18-year high and World Bank experts predict that flood waters could be up to four feet deep on Tuesday, June 3, and Wednesday, June 4, 2008. A flood of this size is likely to cut off the highway to Seokarna-Hatta airport.

"American citizens are urged to prepare adequate stores of food and water and to expect that mobility may be significantly hampered. American citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and be aware that the situation is likely to affect the entire city.

"The U.S. Embassy intends to maintain normal consular services next week, but may have to close on short notice if conditions prevent public access to the Embassy grounds."

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If you arrive at the airport and can't get into town, you do have a few options for a place to sleep. There's a decent Transit Hotel right inside Terminal 2 (where all international flights arrive); Bulai69 stayed there in February 2007 and had some good luck with the in-house massage girls who came to his room.

There's also a Sheraton Hotel located just off the airport grounds two minutes away, also a FM7 Hotel about 5 minutes drive away (this is a different FM7 hotel from the one that's near Taman Anggrek Mall near downtown).

There are a couple of alternative routes into the city, basically one-lane roads that wind through crowded low-income slums; these roads will probably be very crowded!

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Important news for anyone who plans to fly into or out of Jakarta on June 3rd & 4th (also June 5th), whether or not you're an American:

"The US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, informs American citizens that the World Bank warned that a record high tide is likely to flood North Jakarta next week. The tides are expected to be at an 18-year high and World Bank experts predict that flood waters could be up to four feet deep on Tuesday, June 3, and Wednesday, June 4, 2008. A flood of this size is likely to cut off the highway to Seokarna-Hatta airport.

"American citizens are urged to prepare adequate stores of food and water and to expect that mobility may be significantly hampered. American citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and be aware that the situation is likely to affect the entire city.

"The U.S. Embassy intends to maintain normal consular services next week, but may have to close on short notice if conditions prevent public access to the Embassy grounds."

**********************************

If you arrive at the airport and can't get into town, you do have a few options for a place to sleep. There's a decent Transit Hotel right inside Terminal 2 (where all international flights arrive); Bulai69 stayed there in February 2007 and had some good luck with the in-house massage girls who came to his room.

There's also a Sheraton Hotel located just off the airport grounds two minutes away, also a FM7 Hotel about 5 minutes drive away (this is a different FM7 hotel from the one that's near Taman Anggrek Mall near downtown).

There are a couple of alternative routes into the city, basically one-lane roads that wind through crowded low-income slums; these roads will probably be very crowded![/QUOTE]Hi bro MS,

Thanks for the informations, how much stock of food should we be stocking up?
How bad is this tide?

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Important news for anyone who plans to fly into or out of Jakarta on June 3rd & 4th (also June 5th), whether or not you're an American:

"The US Embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, informs American citizens that the World Bank warned that a record high tide is likely to flood North Jakarta next week. The tides are expected to be at an 18-year high and World Bank experts predict that flood waters could be up to four feet deep on Tuesday, June 3, and Wednesday, June 4, 2008. A flood of this size is likely to cut off the highway to Seokarna-Hatta airport.

"American citizens are urged to prepare adequate stores of food and water and to expect that mobility may be significantly hampered. American citizens should stay current with media coverage of local events and be aware that the situation is likely to affect the entire city.

"The U.S. Embassy intends to maintain normal consular services next week, but may have to close on short notice if conditions prevent public access to the Embassy grounds."

**********************************

If you arrive at the airport and can't get into town, you do have a few options for a place to sleep. There's a decent Transit Hotel right inside Terminal 2 (where all international flights arrive); Bulai69 stayed there in February 2007 and had some good luck with the in-house massage girls who came to his room.

There's also a Sheraton Hotel located just off the airport grounds two minutes away, also a FM7 Hotel about 5 minutes drive away (this is a different FM7 hotel from the one that's near Taman Anggrek Mall near downtown).

There are a couple of alternative routes into the city, basically one-lane roads that wind through crowded low-income slums; these roads will probably be very crowded![/QUOTE]


Since the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta gets flooded every time it rains a little heavy, I wonder, if with the predicted flood, anything could be reached then. Less the airport and hotels!

[QUOTE=Menteng]Since the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta gets flooded every time it rains a little heavy, I wonder, if with the predicted flood, anything could be reached then. Less the airport and hotels![/QUOTE]
It is being anticipated. This high tide is supposedly to affect coastal areas of Jakarta including the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta airport. I drove JC to the airport a couple days ago and I saw construction of concrete along the toll-road exposed to the tide. To block the tide I guess.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

I'm struggling to understand the scene here in Indonesia.

I arrived in JAK Sat and have been sleeping a lot, so that has made it difficult. I'm staying at Hotel Ibis Tamarind, for $48 per night, net, great breakfast included, thru KAHA booking service at the airport (thanks Jamie Carrito). Front desk is quoting $58 for the same. But I feel isolated, no mongers, very few Western travellers, no good advice for a first time traveller.

Will move to Jl Jaska St, the backpacker hangout on Monday. Prices are very good, internet is easy and cheap (important for me) and people are friendly. From there I'll visit Block M, and I hope to meet some guys that can give me some advice.

Did some interesting sight seeing today near the port. (The port that will be flooded in two days, due to high tides and another natural event). A guide walked me through some very local, interesting, friendly areas, way off the beaten path. The most fascinating sight seeing I've done in one hour in a long time.

Later, I wanted to go to Block M, but woke up late (10:00pm) and thought Sunday night was an off night. I want to move to the Block M area in a day or so, but I don't want to pay US$60-100 for a place, as suggested by Bowerboy. Thanks for the info, but it's way more than I want to pay. So I'm looking for a place for less than $50. I tend to do ST, so I spend very little time in the hotel.

So, any help would be appreciated. I'll be in JAK for another 4 days, then Bali. Would like to meet some guys from this board, like I've done in a lot of other places. My buddies are asking for a trip report. I need some action! I'll have a phone number on Monday.

[QUOTE=Dboy]I'm struggling to understand the scene here in Indonesia.

I arrived in JAK Sat and have been sleeping a lot, so that has made it difficult. I'm staying at Hotel Ibis Tamarind, for $48 per night, net, great breakfast included, thru KAHA booking service at the airport (thanks Jamie Carrito). Front desk is quoting $58 for the same. But I feel isolated, no mongers, very few Western travellers, no good advice for a first time traveller.

Will move to Jl Jaska St, the backpacker hangout on Monday. Prices are very good, internet is easy and cheap (important for me) and people are friendly. From there I'll visit Block M, and I hope to meet some guys that can give me some advice.

Did some interesting sight seeing today near the port. (The port that will be flooded in two days, due to high tides and another natural event). A guide walked me through some very local, interesting, friendly areas, way off the beaten path. The most fascinating sight seeing I've done in one hour in a long time.

Later, I wanted to go to Block M, but woke up late (10:00pm) and thought Sunday night was an off night. I want to move to the Block M area in a day or so, but I don't want to pay US$60-100 for a place, as suggested by Bowerboy. Thanks for the info, but it's way more than I want to pay. So I'm looking for a place for less than $50. I tend to do ST, so I spend very little time in the hotel.

So, any help would be appreciated. I'll be in JAK for another 4 days, then Bali. Would like to meet some guys from this board, like I've done in a lot of other places. My buddies are asking for a trip report. I need some action! I'll have a phone number on Monday.[/QUOTE]
Since price appears to be your main concern, then yes your best bet would be the Jalan Jaksa area.

Another option, try the Hotel Caravan, which is around 200,000 rupiah a night for a clean room (brand-new building) and which is a 5 minute walk from Plaza Indonesia and Grand Indonesia shopping malls. You won't see any foreigners there (unless someone like me uses the place for a short-term pop), but you're close to those malls.

And 10 p.m. on a Sunday night would have been a good time to check out the Blok M places. When it comes to sex in Jakarta, there's no real "off night" (except during the fasting month of Ramadan), these girls need to eat (and spend money on other things) every day of the week.

Glad also to read that you toured the Sunda Kelapa port area, interesting stuff, lots of history there.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]Hi bro MS,

Thanks for the informations, how much stock of food should we be stocking up?
How bad is this tide?

My humble two cents.[/QUOTE]
If you're living full-time in Jakarta, it never hurts to have 3 or 4 days worth of food on hand at all times - tuna fish, instant noodles, bottled water, beer, canned soup, etc.

The tide will close off most of the northern part of town, including the important trade area of Glodok (old Chinatown), and will affect much of the rest of Jakarta as access to the port will be difficult.

Last year over 70 per cent of Jakarta was flooded for almost a week. I live in Mega Kuningan, one of the neighborhoods that was not flooded, but the nearby Carrefour supermarket started to run out of food after a few days, because the delivery trucks couldn't reach the supermarket.

Although the flooding is expected to be severe up north I don't think the rest of Jakarta should suffer too many problems as unlike last time it will be largely tidal in origin rather than due to heavy rains. Of course if the high tide coincides with a heavy rain storm then all bets are off.

Dboy your choice of hotel is fine (I can see your bedroom from my office window as I type) but you are certainly not in a particularly 'hot' area. Jaksa is ok for the back packers but not really a mongering destination, though you could do worse than hanging around the McDonald's in Sarinah Mall after dark.

You were unwise to skip the Blok at 10pm, you'd have found plenty of interest even on a Sunday evening.

My advice would be to get down to the Blok now, find the Melawei Hotel (just around the corner from Pasaraya Mall) and get a room there for 330K a night, then when you're bored during the afternoon you can visit the Marabaya Bar in the 6th Floor, the rest is up to you. Other cheap hotels in that area are the Melawei II (the yellow building across the street from the Melawei) and the Losari and Amaris near the Blok M Plaza Mall.

I fully sympathise with your disorientation in Jakarta, it happens to us all on our first visit, I know I hated the place and couldn't wait to leave when I first arrived but stick with it, you'll discover you've found a real gem of a city here.

I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Cookie70]I've read all the reports I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers[/QUOTE]
One of the more distinguished Senior Members of this board is a Chinese Malaysian. He's a regular contributor to the Indonesia threads, who's written numerous posts of his successes as a mall-hunter during his 3-or-4-times-a-year visits to Jakarta. He clearly has had no problems scoring with the women here, so neither should you.

And many of the customers at the MPs are Chinese Indonesian, especially the higher-end places such as Malioboro and Alexis.

However, if you are still worried, one way to guarantee success would be to take one of Jakarta After Dark's tours (he is a regular poster to this board, his handle is "Jkt After Dark 2" (without the quotes, of course).

Just go to the Classified Ads section of this board and go to Page 4, you should easily find a couple of informative posts written by him there. I can think of at least 3 members who have used Jkt After Dark 2's services and then wrote posts that it was money well-spent.

So, welcome to Jakarta, and good luck! and make sure you go to Kartika Spa at least once. I was there again this afternoon, and had yet another great session there :D

You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules. Being able to speak bhs Indonesia will be a great help especially in the more down market (but still OK) malls such as Atrium were most girls don't speak English. I suggest you take note of Mighty Spearsman's report with which I fully agree - there are quite a few non-bules who post in this forum who seem to do OK! If you search on mall hunting you may find some useful tips and certainly Jakarta After Dark will put on the right track quickly and effectively.

[QUOTE=Bulai69]You don't need to be bule to score in Jakarta: if you are male, still alive and have some money you will be OK. Remember, girls will perceive you to have money if you are Chinese in just the same way as they perceive bules.[/QUOTE]

Probably true, except that there some groups of girls who focus on particular market segments. Some bars or other venues may be set up to deal mainly with expat bules, others are more for local Chinese, others for Arabs and Africans and so on. Go into the wrong bar, and you may find yourself, well, not ignored, but on the B-list. I always have some good-natured wrangling with a local Chinese friend: when I suggest a venue, he protests that the girls there are only interested in bules, and he wants to go to 1001 or someplace in Kota where I find I get ignored and he is on a first-name basis with all the Mamas.

But there are so many girls and bars in Jakarta that you really don't have to worry.

Hi Cookie70,

Whether your a bule or not, you stand a good chance of connecting to the FLs as long as you daring & play smart in your mall hunting episodes!

I've been to a couple of mall hunts with both bules (like Bulai69), locals and Malaysians of differant races and till date have not failed to notice at least 1 FL in all malls but the only problems are these FLs to your requirements!

The most important factor is to simply smile (not like a wolf but a pleasant smile) to any girl that takes your fancy, if she responds positivly then next's step is to be DARING and approcahed her if you do not see any agresive males accompnying them! Ask them to go for a drink at any outlet in the mall and the rest is up to you!

There is no way you are unable to meet FLs in known FLs hang out places like Atrium unless there is a clean up operation b the mall and I have seen friends pick up girls at malls like Plaza Indoesia and Plaza Senayan, thus I dont see a problem for anyone!

Remeber dress nicely for that added attraction (by that I man not sloppy looking!)

Hope this helps!

KL Guy

[QUOTE=Cookie70]I've read all the report I can get my eyes on. I'll be in Jakarta mid-June for a month. I'm trying to digest how I can get the mall action. Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

I'm just looking for a senior brother to guide me. How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay. Perhaps any of you can hook up with me and show me the ropes. I don't mind paying for my lesson.

Cheers[/QUOTE]

What can I say? I'm almost in tears. You guys treat me better than my physical brother. Ha ha.

Thank you all for the information. I'll take all of it to heart and will post all my adventures. If any of you would like to meet up for mongering, I'll gladly join you. Just PM me.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman] Carrefour supermarket [/QUOTE]

* A supermarket with French management, I believe they're the only one supermarket in Jakarta which sells PORK...
I have no idea in other branch outside JKT.
(I could write this cause I always bought pork in Carrefour LebakBulus)

Pork for muslim is forbidden to eat, other animal is forbidden for muslim is Dog (even as a pet).

* JakartaAfterDark is a recommended partner to explore Jakarta's night life, I agree with you and he is a friend of mine too.


cheers...

[QUOTE=Cookie70]Problem is. I'm not a bulay. I'm Chinese from Singapore. Although I speak Indonesian fluently, I know it's difficult for me to score.

How can I best get my prey and where if I'm not a bulay
[/QUOTE]
Hi there !

You're so lucky that you speak Malays fluently.
see in Indonesian board...many bule overpaid ! even a world class bule monger.

I suggest you to hang around in West JKT/ Kota area..., to be honest many gals in South JKT (Faletehan, Kemang or Blok M) prefer to sleep with bulay but not in West JKT area.

To score a gal ? Please do not follow bulay's suggestion cause a bulay monger usually prefer a brown skin girl with so native face. Just follow your taste and do not forget to submit the report in this board.

cheers.

[QUOTE=Jkt After Dark 2]It is being anticipated. This high tide is supposedly to affect coastal areas of Jakarta including the toll-road to Soekarno-Hatta airport. I drove JC to the airport a couple days ago and I saw construction of concrete along the toll-road exposed to the tide. To block the tide I guess.

JAKARTA AFTER DARK[/QUOTE]
Hi JAD, apa kabar bro ?...how are you ?

Do you still 'nongkrong' in Pasar Festival - Kuningan with Zemi bro ? hehehe...I miss your black hat !

cheers.

Things are looking up, thanks to advice here and thru PM. I moved to south Jakarta, north Jakarta seems too close to to the potential flooding.

Hotel Melawai was full, at least when using KAHA Travel. So I'm in Country Boutique Melawai, a block away. 4 Star, published rate of Rp 750,000, but only Rp 400,000, all in, thru KAHA! Very nice place, no pool or gym.

Went to Melawai Hotel 6th floor yesterday at 4:00pm. Chose Tia from a group of 12 eager girls. Great performance, pouty lips, great face, body on top was good, a little wear and tear on the hips. Lots of BBBJ including CIM. Fun attitude and decent massage, very limited English, but she made up for it.

I'm back again today, using WiFi in the Hotel Lobby, after another visit to the 6th floor. Saw Tia again, big smile, but explained I wanted new girl. Chose Wadi (sp?)- short, a little fuller than I like (I like spinners), but nice face. Pretty good BBBJ, but not as good as Tia and BJ changed to HJ at the end. No English, maybe inexperienced, wouldn't repeat.

Again, about 12 girls, eager, I was the only customer at noon (maybe one guy was sitting on a couch in the corner).

Tried the Block M bars yesterday afternoon. I was floundering. First problem, they aren't in Blok M Mall (as I assumed), second they are difficult to find even after I found a great map, third they were empty or closed at 3pm (there is no action til later, I guess). I'll try again tonight.

Wow, I've been to many cities for the first time, whether mongering or not. I've spent 5 or more hours reading this forum and others, and taking notes. I now have a cell. Still, I've never had so much difficulty getting the lay of the land.

Couple more questions. Am I offending people by wearing shorts? CJ's and Tiga Puluh and BATS seems to be expensive places to drink. Cover charge, $8 drinks?? Or am I confused (again!)?

[QUOTE=Dboy]
Tried the Block M bars yesterday afternoon. I was floundering. First problem, they aren't in Blok M Mall (as I assumed), second they are difficult to find even after I found a great map, third they were empty or closed at 3pm (there is no action til later, I guess). I'll try again tonight.

Couple more questions. Am I offending people by wearing shorts? CJ's and Tiga Puluh and BATS seems to be expensive places to drink. Cover charge, $8 drinks?? Or am I confused (again!)?[/QUOTE]

For Blok M bars, like Top Gun and My Bar, my opinion is that Top Gun starts going around 10pm onwards and My Bar a little later. Those hotel bars are expensive and the women will try for more there also. Hotel bars start going late also. This isn't Thailand or Phillipines, I don't recommend you wear shorts to the hotel bars, or even Blok M bars.

Shorts for men are on the golf course or on the way to Patongs beach okay, but anywhere else outside, restaurant, shopping mall, upscale (hotel) bar it just simply looks ridiculous. I don't own any shorts or flipflops.
No offence, man, it's MHO only.

Cheers!

I've been reading several of the Indonesia forums in preparation for my first visit to Indonesia. Plan to hit Jakarta and Bali...perhaps for two weeks total. Have been thinking of traveling in September, but just noticed that Ramadan this year is the month of September. My preference is freelancers in the bars and malls....and just an occasional mp. Is Ramadan going to impact my experiences and should I wait until Oct? I'm from the US and don't know much about Ramadan. thanks

[QUOTE=Xdentx]I've been reading several of the Indonesia forums in preparation for my first visit to Indonesia. Plan to hit Jakarta and Bali...perhaps for two weeks total. Have been thinking of traveling in September, but just noticed that Ramadan this year is the month of September. My preference is freelancers in the bars and malls....and just an occasional mp. Is Ramadan going to impact my experiences and should I wait until Oct? I'm from the US and don't know much about Ramadan. thanks[/QUOTE]

Never been during the month of Ramadan but reading posts by other members, it will certainly impact upon the availability of talent. Many venues close their doors for the whole month. I think it would be sensible to delay your trip until October

[QUOTE=Xdentx]I've been reading several of the Indonesia forums in preparation for my first visit to Indonesia. Plan to hit Jakarta and Bali...perhaps for two weeks total. Have been thinking of traveling in September, but just noticed that Ramadan this year is the month of September. My preference is freelancers in the bars and malls....and just an occasional mp. Is Ramadan going to impact my experiences and should I wait until Oct? I'm from the US and don't know much about Ramadan. thanks[/QUOTE]
I just checked my calendar, the fasting month of Ramadan is scheduled for September 1 - 29th or 30th, and the Eid-al-Fitr holiday is either September 30 or October 1st. Since the Eid holiday falls in the middle of the week, the entire week will be a government holiday, with offices (and mps!) re-opening on Monday, October 6th.

The Eid holiday is known as "Lebaran" in the Indonesian language. Those expats who live in Jakarta love this holiday, as there's no traffic and the air is clean and breathable for a few days.

Prince2 is correct, if you are able to delay your travel here until after Ramadan has ended, you should do so. Try to arrive on or after October 6th.

However, if you don't have any flexibility in your travel plans and must come here during Ramadan, all is not lost. While the free-standing mps such as Kartika, Berlian, TC, etc. in Kota and the Maribaya Spa in Blok M are closed for 5 weeks (the 30 days of Ramadan plus 4 or 5 days for the Eid-al-Fitr holiday after Ramadan ends), some of the hotel-based mps such as Malioboro remain open, and many of the girls are still doing business out of hotel rooms etc. for at least the first 3 weeks of Ramadan (September 1 - 21). And many freelancers are still "doing business" in the bars that have remained open, especially the bars in the 5-star hotels. Oyenk and I wrote several posts here last year during Ramadan, I recommend you check them out to get an idea of what's available then.

Please note that the last week of Ramadan (September 22 - 29/30), the Eid-al-Fitr holiday itself (September 30 or October 1) and the 3-4 days after that are probably not a good time to be mongering in Jakarta, simply because most of the working freelancers, etc. will have traveled home for the Eid holiday.

Last year at least a dozen of the girls who worked at the Maribaya Spa (Melawai Hotel 6th floor) stayed in town during the first 3 weeks of Ramadan and worked out of a couple of hotel rooms in the Hotel Melawai. I went there several times and enjoyed my sessions, as there was no "1-hour" time pressure, I had several 2-girl 2-hours 2-pops sessions then. Unfortunately all of those girls then went back to their villages for the last few days of Ramadan and the subsequent Eid-al-Fitr holiday.

Good post about shorts. I altered my travel attire because of that. Although I never went out in shorts, even in the hotel, I would wear white Reeboks.

I always thought it was supremely stupid to pad around in the Jakarta heat in long pants or jeans (OK, it isn't bangkok heat, but still...), but I did it anyway.
Then one night in BATS, a coupe of girls were staring and laughing at my Reeboks. I got the point. Now I never pack sneakers anywhere I go outside the US, except to use a hotel gym.

Reminds me of the first time I went Tiga Puluh, I crashed out of my room at 11pm with my 3/4 pants on and sports shoes , I think, and got "bounced" at the door and offered some sort of native attire. I spun round to go get get changed but ended up getting picked up by 2 lovelies waiting for things to get started, sitting in the big sofas.

Problem is my feet are fucked with my sports shoes.

Well, now that I'm back to work, I'd like to thank JAD, and all the others who helped out while I was in Jakarta for a couple of weeks. While, I never was able to contact Kiki, I did find some nice ladies to have some fun with. I was supposed to meet a couple of guys for drinks, but ran out of time. Sorry.

And, although I've complained about Jakarta taxis in the past, they are miles above the Bangkok ones I took a few days ago. Most will try not to use the meter, and will sometimes quote rates as high as 8x more than what it should be!

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]While, I never was able to contact Kiki, [/QUOTE]

Is it Kiki or Keke ? PM me if you like.

[QUOTE=Xdentx]I've been reading several of the Indonesia forums in preparation for my first visit to Indonesia. Plan to hit Jakarta and Bali...perhaps for two weeks total. Have been thinking of traveling in September, but just noticed that Ramadan this year is the month of September. My preference is freelancers in the bars and malls....and just an occasional mp. Is Ramadan going to impact my experiences and should I wait until Oct? I'm from the US and don't know much about Ramadan. thanks[/QUOTE]
If you can not be in JKT on August...then I suggest you to come in mid October (based on calendar).
But all high-end spa usually open during ramadan 'fuckin' month, see in this thread...I have submitted some spa which open during ramadan. Travel bordell opens during ramadan.

Before ramadan month, criminality usually raise (not only in the street but also in spa, bordell and mp / billing scamming) ...remember that !

cheers.

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]Is it Kiki or Keke ? PM me if you like.[/QUOTE]

Well, Kiki is the only spelling I know of, but I'm sure there are tons of names that I spell incorrectly.

Many thanks to the several posters who offered comments on the Ramadan holiday. Will try to avoid that time period in Indonesia. Appreciate it guys!

A few people posted some information aobut floods which might occur around june 4.
there is nothing on the news in Bali.
juau wodnering if there were any floods? if yes, were they severe?
Anyone there can supply some info?
thanks

[QUOTE=1Ball]A few people posted some information aobut floods which might occur around june 4.
there is nothing on the news in Bali.
just wondering if there were any floods? if yes, were they severe?
Anyone there can supply some info?
thanks[/QUOTE]
As of Thursday late afternoon:

Yes, there was flooding but luckily it was restricted to some areas of North Jakarta, and most of Jakarta was not affected. The government actually tried to take some preventive measures this time, including building up some embankments with sand bags, etc., and that seemed to have helped.

But let's not be complacent here, it was a close call, and could have been much worse. I saw one video shot on TV where water was "licking" the top of an embankment; a few centimeters higher and there would have been more flooding. And the people living in the areas that were flooded are mostly very poor, and their lives were very much affected by this week's flooding.

Update:
There were heavy rains Thursday evening, which may have exacerbated the situation. But as far as I know, the highway to the airport is still open.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]Unfortunately we may never know the truth about Cynthia's death....

Cynthia first went home to her "kampung" (home village) near Semarang in late June as she wasn't feeling well. Sadly, she never returned to Jakarta.

I talked to her on the phone a couple of times in July/August, also sent one million rupiah to her twice (through Rista). I stopped hearing from Cynthia once Ramadan started in mid-September as her cell phone ran out of pulsa...

Rista travelled to her kampung last week and met with Cynthia's family. Understandably they are all devastated by what happened, especially Cynthia's mom and 3-year-old son. I may travel to the kampung myself soon to express my condolences in person (yes, I know the family will ask me for money for the son!).[/QUOTE]
This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info.

The above post was written by me on December 4, 2007, shortly after Cynthia died on November 20th.

Six months later, I was able to keep the promise that I had made to myself. I was in Semarang for my work, so I hired a car and went to visit Cynthia’s son and family in Bangsri, a small rural farming village outside of Jepara, Central Java, around 2 ½ hours from Semarang.

Cynthia’s family lives in a fairly-nice new house, presumably built with funding from Cynthia’s work at Kartika from 2003 to 2007. Cynthia’s mother is a pleasant but tired-looking woman around 50, and is the primary caretaker for Robby, Cynthia’s son and only child, who will be 4 in early September 2008. Cynthia’s father died a few years ago. She has five surviving siblings ranging in age from 31 to late teens (Cynthia was child #3 and was 26 when she died), her older brother and sister are both married with children.

I stayed for about one hour, which included a visit to Cynthia’s grave in a nearby cemetery. The family knew who I was (since I had twice sent money to Cynthia when she was sick last year) and were very friendly, but conversation was difficult as the mother, indeed most of them did not speak Bahasa Indonesian, only Javanese. I could have used my driver as an interpreter but the car was parked far away from the house (no road to the house, only a footpath). Cynthia’s older siblings did speak some Bahasa Indonesian and did most of the talking.

They said that they had never had a “bule” (foreigner) visit them before, probably the truth. Robby was shy at first and then started crying after I gave him a bunch of presents (clothes, toys, coloring book & crayons, a backpack, etc.), my guess is that he was overwhelmed by the whole scene. I gave Cynthia’s mother 2 million rupiah and smaller amounts to the two older siblings (who had children), took several photos, and off I went. By the way, no one in the family asked me for money or anything, I gave the money on my own.

Afterwards, I regretted that I did not ask the family to show me other photos of Cynthia from when she was younger; it would have given me more insight into her as a person.

Two haunting items: First, the only photos on the walls of the two front rooms of the house were a large photo of Cynthia and a smaller one of her father. Also, Cynthia’s oldest brother has a 14 year old daughter who looks just like Cynthia. Let’s hope her future is brighter than Cynthia’s was.

Note: much of this visit was arranged through cell phone calls with a couple of Cynthia’s friends who still work at Kartika, they were busy giving my driver directions to Cynthia’s house, and had given a heads-up to the family of when I’d be there.

*****************************
Postscript:

I stopped by Kartika at 4:30 p.m. last Thursday after I returned to Jakarta, bringing my laptop computer with the photos downloaded from my camera. Every girl who worked there wanted to see the photos, especially the photos of her grave and the group photo of the 18 or so family members. I ended up showing the photos separately at least six or seven times to groups of girls, even the mamasans took a look, and my apologies to the 6 or 7 Indonesian guys who were there drinking and who were ignored for 10 minutes while I showed the photos.

I then went upstairs for a nice 2-girl session with Rista and Sonia. Afterwards, I had to show the photos several times again to those girls who had missed the show the first time around because they were either working or had not yet arrived for the evening shift.

I was overwhelmed by the warm thank-you’s from virtually every girl who worked there (at that time there’s close to 50 girls on duty), who seemed sincerely touched that I had visited the family and then reported on my visit to them.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info.

Mighty Spearsman:

Thanks for the update and sharing with us your experience with Cynthia's family. Good job bro!

Woodman

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info.

Great to see one of us not being a devo and instead showing some respect and humanity-Well done buddy. A sad story.

[QUOTE=Gzono][QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info.

Great to see one of us not being a devo and instead showing some respect and humanity-Well done buddy. A sad story.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

I have always had high regards for you but from now on I found a new higher level of respect for you.

Bravo,

My humble two cents

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]As of Thursday late afternoon:

Yes, there was flooding but luckily it was restricted to some areas of North Jakarta, and most of Jakarta was not affected. The government actually tried to take some preventive measures this time, including building up some embankments with sand bags, etc., and that seemed to have helped.

But let's not be complacent here, it was a close call, and could have been much worse. I saw one video shot on TV where water was "licking" the top of an embankment; a few centimeters higher and there would have been more flooding. And the people living in the areas that were flooded are mostly very poor, and their lives were very much affected by this week's flooding.

Update:
There were heavy rains Thursday evening, which may have exacerbated the situation. But as far as I know, the highway to the airport is still open.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Mighty, for the update.
This has been one of the longest wet seasons I can remember. It seems to be finally over in Bali, sorry to hear it is still raining in Jkt. Hopefully, it will be over soon.

Kartika raised its house fee from 250,000 rupiah to 260,000 rupiah, effective June 1st. I believe that the girl gets to keep at most 100,000 rupiah from the house fee. So, the girls will also expect 50,000 rupiah as a [U]minimum[/U] tip and will hope for a 100,000 rupiah tip, not that unreasonable with the recent large price increases in everything due to the reduction in the fuel subsidy two weeks ago.

Stopped by there this afternoon and had another great 2-girl session, this time with Cindy and a newer girl named Nehneng (23, shy but a great body, better than Cindy's). Cindy had not been on duty last week and asked to see the photos from my trip to Cynthia's village after our session was over, so it was another reminiscing moment.

[QUOTE=Jaimito Cartero]Well, now that I'm back to work, I'd like to thank JAD, and all the others who helped out while I was in Jakarta for a couple of weeks.[/QUOTE]
The pleasure is all mine mate! :D

[QUOTE=1Ball]Thanks Mighty, for the update.
This has been one of the longest wet seasons I can remember. It seems to be finally over in Bali, sorry to hear it is still raining in Jkt. Hopefully, it will be over soon.[/QUOTE]


What did he say? Did he say "the ones affected by the flood are the poorer people" and that they have it hard? I'm sort of pissed and offended by this. I doubt i'm poor, but yet it did affect me horribly. I live really close to north jkt, but it has never been as bad as it was this feb.

I rarely go back to jakarta as it is, and when i do have a short holiday during chinese new yr and managed to go back to jkt, for 4 friggin straight days, i was stranded at home, flooded with no electricity.

I'm supposed to fly back to jkt on a business trip tomorrow. And i'm very pissed right now. Damned flood.... *grumble grumble grumble*...

Just reading some comments on dress and in particular, a comment made by my friend KL Guy, reminds me that anyone who is interested in mall hunting (NB Cookie70) would be well advised to be as smart as possible to maximise their chances. This applies more so in up market malls like PI and PS. The ideal is a good business suit and tie but without a jacket is OK - as a minimum, go for smart trousers and long sleeved shirt. This is all about marginal improvement of course; if you are Brad Pitt you will get away with somewhat less formal attire but if you are somewhat older and/or less impressive in stature, every little helps.

I know that even some handsome and younger (than me!) contributors to this forum adopt this strategy.

A bit "off topic" but I was amused by one aspect of Chibi Asian's post when he talks about being "pissed". I know most readers are fluent in English/American but just in case you aren't, you should be aware that "pissed" has a quite different meaning in English and American English; in the former it means "drunk" or we British say "pissed up" and in the latter it means "angry/annoyed" which in English English could also be "pissed off". I've noticed confusion amongst Indonesian friends on this. Hope that's clear!

The dress code truly reminds me of my long lost friend Panya!

[QUOTE=Bulai69] The ideal is a good business suit and tie but without a jacket is OK - as a minimum, go for smart trousers and long sleeved shirt. [/QUOTE]

I dont know Cynthia nor have I been to Kartika but you have my upmost respect my dear friend for being indeed a true friend to another friend in need even after she has passed on!

I've said this to many others before that these ladies are someone's mother/daughter/sister and therefore can we not at least show them especailly those who deserve it some form of respect!

MS you're a true gentleman!

KL Guy
[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=KL Guy]I dont know Cynthia nor have I been to Kartika but you have my upmost respect my dear friend for being indeed a true friend to another friend in need even after she has passed on!

I've said this to many others before that these ladies are someone's mother/daughter/sister and therefore can we not at least show them especailly those who deserve it some form of respect!

MS you're a true gentleman!

KL Guy[/QUOTE]Ditto those thoughts, I spend a lot of time Between Jepara and Kudus, some times a pleasant afternoon in the countryside, yes respect for these wonderful people and my Hats off to you MS and the humanity you have shown and dared to reveal.

Hi Mighty Spearsman;

I have the opportunity to read many of your reports in the JKT. Forum and the Cynthia, her real life story was just shown you are much more than just a monger, a true gentleman and I can say a very hard person to find.

I totally agree that mongering is an Art not just a simple economic trade. There are real human involve here. The least we can do is show the girl some respect. You do much more than that and beyond friendship.

Personally, I only travel to Bangkok in many times for mongering purposes. I have not been traveled to JKT. However, I can figure myself to make an adventure trip to this new frontier. Your posts are always full of infos cut to the chase. May you always in great health and happy.

[QUOTE=KL Guy]I dont know Cynthia nor have I been to Kartika but you have my upmost respect my dear friend for being indeed a true friend to another friend in need even after she has passed on!

I've said this to many others before that these ladies are someone's mother/daughter/sister and therefore can we not at least show them especailly those who deserve it some form of respect!

MS you're a true gentleman!

KL Guy[/QUOTE]Hi bro KL,

Bravo, you have taken the words out of my mouth.

My respects to you too.

My humble two cents.

Hi senior bros,

I was wondering, if I ask you bros a question, I was brought a friend to Alexis spa for a fun time last we had fun there, was thinking of going similar venues this trip around.

Will be grateful if be provided some info on high class spas beside Alexis.

Thanks,

My humble two cents.

Arrived in Jakarta at around 9pm on 31 May 08 on a transit to Bali the next morning. Based on the information gathered from this forum (thanks to all brothers), proceeded by Blue Bird taxi to Hotel Peninsula (Jln Mangga Besar Raya) and checked in. Had a quick shower and headed across the street to Lokasari Plaza. At around 11pm the place was HOT with action.

Dropped into Today Country for a while. Didn't appreciate the crowd and left. Saw a few massage joints which was closing down for business for the day. Left the place and proceed to my hotel. Nearing my hotel, I was approached by two ladies on motorbike asking whether I wanted massage. Saw the pillion rider was quite cute and decided to take her for 1 hours at Rp150,000.

Proceeded to my room and she took a shower together with me. Nice body..... After shower proceed to the bed. She started giving me "mandi kuching" followed by a reasonable bbbj. We then proceed on several positions starting with missionary, scissor, doggie (kneeling & later standing) and finally missionary again where I unloaded. Slept well.

At 5am, received a sms from AirAsia that my flight to Bali was re-timed to 4pm. Suddenly I have until 12 noon to have some fun in Jakarta. Woke up at around 9am and after shower proceed to have a bowl of Bakso for breakfast. Walked around the place a bit and at 10,30am decided to pop into "Berlian" inside Lokasari Plaza for a massage. Thought it belong to the same "Berlian" outfit at Hayam Wuruk but it was not. Decided to try anyway as the massage was Rp85000 per hour. Proceed up stairs and later a Chinese Indonesian ML came in.

She began to massage and after about 5 minutes I could tell that massage was not her cup of tea. Proceeded to turn over and talked to her while doing a bit of autoroaming. She wanted to give me a HJ but I wanted full service. After some persuasion, we agreed on Rp150000. Proceeded to do several positions and later released over her boobs. Satisfied, paid and left.

Showered, checked out and left for the airport. Bali here I come.....

Cheers
normad2020

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info. [/QUOTE]Although I never met Cynthia (I arrived only a few months ago in Jakarta) I really appreciate you showing respect to her on our behalf.

And it's true that Kartika is one of the best mongering place in Jakarta.

By the way, bro MS, do you know if they have internal rules in Kartika that allow only the most experimented/senior girls stay at the bar while the others stay on sofas ? I always want to stay at the bar (don't like sofas) but then find it difficult to choose among most younger girls which never dare to get up and approach me as if there was a territory sharing deal.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info. [/QUOTE]

Nothing more to add about your good deed, man. Thank you MS.

Kaki.

That's a very decent thing you did MS, you deserve the commendation. Well done.

As regards a dress code well I think we only have to look around us and see what every one else is wearing. Jakarta is the business and administrative capital of the largest nation in SE Asia, it's not Kuta or Pattaya, you wouldn't walk around London or New York in a sloppy Bir Bintang tank top, beach trunks and flip flops so why would you do it here?

During the week I always wear a long sleeved open necked business shirt (I am self employed and usually work from my own office so I don't bother with a tie, in recent memory the only time I have worn a tie was at an embassy reception, a brother-in-law's graduation from university and my wedding!), smart trousers and leather shoes, precisely what I would wear during the week if I was back home.

On the weekends however or in the evenings if you're visiting bars in Jalan Falathehan or Jaksa then I suppose a casual sports shirt and chino style shorts wouldn't be out of order but use your brain, if you're going to a five star hotel for dinner or drinks, well it's a five star hotel for a reason, don't let them think you're a bule kampung.

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]This is not a normal ISG report, but I think that those members who know the late Cynthia from Kartika should appreciate this info.

The above post was written by me on December 4, 2007, shortly after Cynthia died on November 20th.

Six months later, I was able to keep the promise that I had made to myself. I was in Semarang for my work, so I hired a car and went to visit Cynthia’s son and family in Bangsri, a small rural farming village outside of Jepara, Central Java, around 2 ½ hours from Semarang.

They said that they had never had a “bule” (foreigner) visit them before, probably the truth. Robby was shy at first and then started crying after I gave him a bunch of presents (clothes, toys, coloring book & crayons, a backpack, etc.), my guess is that he was overwhelmed by the whole scene. I gave Cynthia’s mother 2 million rupiah and smaller amounts to the two older siblings (who had children), took several photos, and off I went. By the way, no one in the family asked me for money or anything, I gave the money on my own. [Quote]

You are a real gent MS. I had only one session with the late Cynthia but it was memorable and I was impressed with the sincerity of her service and the heart and soul that she put into it. Something that one does not normally expect.

[quote=menteng]i do hope that the rubber ring is stronger than the last one i had. or did durex only think of calm female hedonists when producing it? :d[/quote]
you have great influence over them bro - the newer rings are stronger (i fully sympathise as i have also come across these female hedonists;)).

i was in jakarta last week and, as mentioned by others before me, the flood was limited to some northern areas of the city. there was some concern when it rained on thursday, but this particular rain seemed to have little effect. they are indeed in the process of buildinga barrier for the airport toll road - but it is by no means complete yet. the combined embankment and concrete structure seems to reach more than 2 meters above the road level. i heard some mention that this was to prepare for another tide on the 13th/14th(?) of this month - can anyone confirm this? the toll road barrier was definitely not for this last high tide as it wasn't even ready yet.

on another subject, i must thank a certain member (who has to be nameless) for his kind efforts to make my stay much cheaper than it would otherwise be. i stayed in mulia senayan for a low rate which was inclusive of breakfast, 3 pieces of laundry daily, 25% discount on all other hotel charges and airport pick up. i was amazed as the lowest i had experienced before this was usd65 nett for the room only. as such, it afforded me the opportunity to clarify the timing of the in house massage; due to a change of gms, the previous in room massage time of 7am - 2am has been revised to 7am - 10pm (last call).

many thanks to panya as i called up "his" girl dewi on the last day. asked for a double session (expensive as 1 session already costs 303k in this hotel) and negotiated 300k for hj which - with roaming hands and nimble fingers (some small vanity there) turned into 500k fs with a very wet and horny girl. incidentally she did enjoy the vibrating ring:d. she has to rate as one of the wettest pussies i've come across (without going into g-spot stimulation where [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109][CodeWord109][/url] is inevitably invloved). it's expensive unless you can persuade her to come and stay with you in your hotel like my mentor panya.

i also met a girl from bandung in cjs named novia(?). i did check her ktp but forgot to check the spelling. it was her real name and her ktp showed an age of 21 - which probably means she's about 18. she's a fair skinned girl who looks a bit chinese. i only mention her to give you fair warning: you need to be pretty slim with a seriously large dick (imho) as she was a bit "loose" and dry. she said she thought guys like it when the pussy's dry and wanted me to start pounding immediately. not my scene but some of you might be into pounding dry pussies. minimal bbbj and hr body's already showing some effects of aging.

i also repeated a previous girl, irna, who professes to prefer arabs to bules - apparently i look a bit like an arab or an indian - although i profess to be malaysian. she's a fun girl who appreciates a bit more than a wham bam job, and since i enjoy meaningful 8 hour relationships, she fitted in very nicely indeed. she is one of jakarta's many part time students. i met one of her chinese friends who prefers bules and may well be one of the freebies that turn up in bats from time to time. she is willing to meet with me so i will endeavour to do some research into this matter.

may thanks to jad who helped to make my stay comfortable - as usual. it's a pity you and our other friend could not make luch on friday; but i understand his need to optimise the utilisation of his time to simulate how rabbits breed. i have a similar situation in kl.

md ii

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]You have great influence over them bro - the newer rings are stronger (I fully sympathise as I have also come across these female hedonists;)).

I was in Jakarta last week...

Many thanks to Panya as I called up "his" girl Dewi on the last day... She has to rate as one of the wettest pussies I've come across.

I also met a girl from Bandung in CJs named Novia(?).... her KTP showed an age of 21 - which probably means she's about 18....

fair warning: you need to be pretty slim with a seriously large dick (IMHO) as she was a bit "loose" and dry. [B]She said she thought guys like it when the pussy's dry[/B] and wanted me to start pounding immediately. Not my scene but some of you might be into pounding dry pussies. Minimal BBBJ and hr body's already showing some effects of aging...[/QUOTE]
Like MD II and many posters here, I prefer a nice moist pussy, but many Indonesian men do prefer a nice dry pussy, the drier the better. The famed [I]Jakarta post[/I] columnist Julia Suryakusuma wrote a long article about this topic earlier this year.

Also sorry to read that Novia, who's either 18 or 21, is already showing some signs of aging - ouch!

P.S. it just dawned on me that this may be the first and only time that Julia Suryakusuma, an attractive, over-50-years-old feminist with a good sense of humor, is mentioned on this board :D

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]It just dawned on me that this may be the first and only time that Julia Suryakusuma, an attractive, over-50-years-old feminist with a good sense of humor, is mentioned on this board :D[/QUOTE]

I hope I don't get my membership cancelled for saying this, but for a fifty year old feminist, Julia is undeniably hot.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]On another subject, I must thank a certain member (who has to be nameless) for his kind efforts to make my stay much cheaper than it would otherwise be. I stayed in Mulia Senayan for a low rate which was inclusive of breakfast, 3 pieces of laundry daily, 25% discount on all other hotel charges and airport pick up. I was amazed as the lowest I had experienced before this was USD65 nett for the room only.[/QUOTE]
Airliners get a similar deal exclusive b'fast at Mulia for USD25-30 nett. JC saw Midplaza Intercontinental charged USD27 nett for a similar deal with room upgrade to suite and free minibar but exclusive b'fast to the hotel network when he used points to stay there for 10 days. I believe he bought the points for USD35. Anyway, for non-airliner and non-hotelier, our friend's corporate rate is the best rate I have ever heard.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II]May thanks to JAD who helped to make my stay comfortable - as usual. It's a pity you and our other friend could not make luch on Friday; but I understand his need to optimise the utilisation of his time to simulate how rabbits breed. I have a similar situation in KL.[/QUOTE]
That killed me mate! :D

JAKARTA AFTER DARK

Time was against me today so instead of going to my usual haunt in santoso, I was north of the city so visited kartika. I got there about 130, walked in and the selection was pretty sad, about 10-12 ladies there but they were either 'mature' or 'plump' and not really the shape I like my ladies in. One girl was bold enuf to come and sit next to me and started talking at me, and I engaged her in vry basic bahasa with english thrown in. She said her name was mia, small neat little body, nice firm not overly large boobs, nice enough face, said she was 26 but could have been a bit older, but certainly attractive enough and the best of the bunch at the time. After promising 'good mandi kucing' service, supported eagerly by the bartender (and they would never lie, would they? ), I agreed to go upstairs with her for the soapy massage. Fair dinkum, this sheilah never shut up, if she wasn't talking, she was over-the-top moaning and LOUD, the mandi kucing was accompanied by the most annoying clicking noise, and even with a mouth full of schlong she made enough grunting and humming noise to make the whole ordeal unenjoyable. I even told her in english I cannot speak bahasa (which I can) just to disuade her from talking, and I even stopped proceedings at one stage and made silence signs at her just to shut her up, which resulted in peals of laughter and more talking. The massage was at best mediocre, and the BBBJ was ok but not outstanding but no cim and she stopped and ended up giving me a hand-crank cause 'mulut sakit'. I didn't go the FJ. Next came the difficult part, the tip. I certainly wasn't happy with things, but gave her 350, 000 and told her that was for the drinks (2 cokes) as well. This didn't go down too well, she wanted the whole lot as tip, but I told her I wasn't happy and walked out. Having read the forum over and over, I am sure this encounter was an exception and not the rule, but it was not an enjoyable experience and wouldn't go with her again unless she had a gag, but even then I'm sure she would manage to make enough noise to distract me.

Cheers guys,

Fieldmouse

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[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Time was against me today so instead of going to my usual haunt in santoso, I was north of the city so visited kartika. I got there about 130, walked in and the selection was pretty sad, about 10-12 ladies there but they were either 'mature' or 'plump' and not really the shape I like my ladies in. One girl was bold enuf to come and sit next to me and started talking at me, and I engaged her in vry basic bahasa with english thrown in. She said her name was mia, small neat little body, nice firm not overly large boobs, nice enough face, said she was 26 but could have been a bit older, but certainly attractive enough and the best of the bunch at the time. After promising 'good mandi kucing' service, supported eagerly by the bartender (and they would never lie, would they? ), I agreed to go upstairs with her for the soapy massage. Fair dinkum, this sheilah never shut up, if she wasn't talking, she was over-the-top moaning and LOUD, the mandi kucing was accompanied by the most annoying clicking noise, and even with a mouth full of schlong she made enough grunting and humming noise to make the whole ordeal unenjoyable. I even told her in english I cannot speak bahasa (which I can) just to disuade her from talking, and I even stopped proceedings at one stage and made silence signs at her just to shut her up, which resulted in peals of laughter and more talking. The massage was at best mediocre, and the BBBJ was ok but not outstanding but no cim and she stopped and ended up giving me a hand-crank cause 'mulut sakit'. I didn't go the FJ. Next came the difficult part, the tip. I certainly wasn't happy with things, but gave her 350, 000 and told her that was for the drinks (2 cokes) as well. This didn't go down too well, she wanted the whole lot as tip, but I told her I wasn't happy and walked out. Having read the forum over and over, I am sure this encounter was an exception and not the rule, but it was not an enjoyable experience and wouldn't go with her again unless she had a gag, but even then I'm sure she would manage to make enough noise to distract me.

Cheers guys,

Fieldmouse

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Truly sorry to read of your bad experience, and I can assure you that it is not typical of Kartika.

Too bad you didn't ask for Cindy or Nehneng, or Rista, all of whom would have given you a better time that what you experienced, and who all should have been on duty at that time.

TIP: Many of the girls on duty at that time are in the two back rooms, putting on their make-up. If you don't see anyone up front you like, and if you ask for a reliable provider like Cindy and are told that she's not available, then just ask the "mami" if there are any other girls in the back who are available - chances are the mami will say yes and bring out a couple of choices for you.

[quote=mighty spearsman]truly sorry to read of your bad experience, and i can assure you that it is not typical of kartika.

too bad you didn't ask for cindy or nehneng, or rista, all of whom would have given you a better time that what you experienced, and who all should have been on duty at that time.

tip: many of the girls on duty at that time are in the two back rooms, putting on their make-up. if you don't see anyone up front you like, and if you ask for a reliable provider like cindy and are told that she's not available, then just ask the "mami" if there are any other girls in the back who are available - chances are the mami will say yes and bring out a couple of choices for you.[/quote]

3 weeks away from indonesia had me pining for the panti pijits of jakarta. went to kartika in the afternoon immediately after i returned and asked for cindy because she had been well recommended on this thread. we went upstairs and since i found her not well endowed decided to have a 2 girl experience, once again recommended here as a must-do before one dies kind of thing. i asked for rista based on ms's laudatory remarks. she joined us and i found her body more appealing than cindy's.

went through the soap routine and i thought that if i was a muslim i'd rather cavort among these houris than being a martyr for the 70 odd ones promised in heaven. but thereafter things went down hill. when i wanted karaoke, rista started to put the condom on and i had to insist on a bbbj- i thought bbbj was a standard offer. she would not let me play with her **** either claiming that my nails were long despite the fact that i had trimmed them just that morning. i had chosen rista for the fj act because of ms's mentioning that she had a really tight pussy. ( i was told that i could only pop once during the session and if i wanted to pop again or with the other girls i would have to increase the tip- something that i didn't mind) . i began with her in cowgirl postion. she made a big song of how painful the entry was even though i consider myself to be averagely endowed( i wonder why these girls don't keep ky jelly in their make-up bags since getting fucked is a part of their job description). she tried to speed up things and i had to constantly keep on asking her to slow down. with the result that she tried to threaten me with the clock saying that time was running out. in fact, she seemed to be a time watcher.

cindy was more obliging allowing me to play with her but her role in the proceedings was minimal except that she gave me a good mandi kucing. when i asked her to pay with my tea-bags while inside rista, the latter did not allow cindy to do so saying that it was not a good thing because cindy would be facing rista's pantat. later when i switched to doggie with rista she helped by pressing against my buttocks and swaying to the rhythm.

anyway, to cut a long story short i had one pop and might have extended the session by another half-an-hour but was told that i could only book another 1 hour one, something that i wasn't willing to do given my experience. so i did not enter cindy's pussy.

i paid 550k for the session although the total came to 520k with the new increased rates since i did'nt ask the girls to return the change. in addition, i gave them 100k each as a tip. despite this rista had the gumption to ask me for more! i think she has become to greedy and spoilt by the attention and shows an attitude that doesn't suit a wg.

but imho, i find that the 2 girl session is much over-rated. probably, i am too old for it. but you get only one hour and one pop for paying double. i wonder if a 2 body soapy massage compensates for the amount you shuck out. in terms of value for money its a very poor deal. if i have to spend that kind of money, i'll spend it at alexis where the ambience is good and the girls are well-mannered instead of a run-down pp. despite bulai's grouse about flat cokes and being out of place as a bule, i find alexis is the tops. anyway one thing is clear that i'll never ask for a session with rista again though i might ask for a 1 to 1 with cindy, if i ever find my place there again as she was quite sweet and obliging reminding me a bit of the late cynthia.

Thanks for reporting on what sounds like a rather lame threesome experience. In Jakarta, having girls mooch for tips is a huge no no; and it only seems to happen after a girl gives a bad session. And what is the deal with trying to cover you up for the BJ. I have never had that happen in my hundreds of Jakarta forays. To be honest, I am kind of shocked you tipped the girls over a 100K each.


I have never gotten the Kartika hype that is here on ISG. Although I can't report first hand on the serivce there, because of the dozen or two times I have stopped in here only once or twice have I ever seen a doable girl here. The line-ups are just pathetic and entirely composed of older and obese women. As much as Melawai 6th floor has overpirced themselves lately, it sounds like for a 100-150K (including tips) more than Spicelover paid you get a fantastic highly interactive threesome with girls who INSIST you give up the goo a second time. And although the Melawai 6th floor line-up sometimes leaves a little something to be desired it completely blows away any of the line-ups I have seen at Kartika. Although I feel bad for SL, it's nice to see a report that brings some balance to the Kartika hype in this forum.

[QUOTE=Mongerxx] it's nice to see a report that brings some balance to the Kartika hype in this forum.[/QUOTE]

I think balance might be the operative word here-we are all different as I'm sure you are Monger. The concept is great the girls are OK and for some it's convenient and consistent and some guys have developed friendship if you read the posts.

re covered blowjobs-perhaps she was doing him a favor As you should know the mouth is an ideal breeding ground OR she might of thought this guy has probably been frequenting pros for years so I'm gonna look after my trade tools :)

[quote=spice lover]she tried to speed up things and i had to constantly keep on asking her to slow down. with the result that she tried to threaten me with the clock saying that time was running out. in fact, she seemed to be a time watcher.[/quote]it never happened to me in kartika except with riski (or risti ? i forgot the exact name). you and fieldmouse ran out of luck.

however i agree with fieldmouse, most of the girls are not really "cantik" to say the least but the service is usually excellent.

at least i know now that we should avoid mia and rista.

but why did you tip them 100 k each ? can't understand bro.

[QUOTE=FieldMouse]Time was against me today so instead of going to my usual haunt in santoso, I was north of the city so visited kartika. I got there about 130, walked in and the selection was pretty sad, about 10-12 ladies there but they were either 'mature' or 'plump' and not really the shape I like my ladies in. One girl was bold enuf to come and sit next to me and started talking at me, and I engaged her in vry basic bahasa with english thrown in. She said her name was mia, small neat little body, nice firm not overly large boobs, nice enough face, said she was 26 but could have been a bit older, but certainly attractive enough and the best of the bunch at the time. After promising 'good mandi kucing' service, supported eagerly by the bartender (and they would never lie, would they? ), I agreed to go upstairs with her for the soapy massage. Fair dinkum, this sheilah never shut up, if she wasn't talking, she was over-the-top moaning and LOUD, the mandi kucing was accompanied by the most annoying clicking noise, and even with a mouth full of schlong she made enough grunting and humming noise to make the whole ordeal unenjoyable. I even told her in english I cannot speak bahasa (which I can) just to disuade her from talking, and I even stopped proceedings at one stage and made silence signs at her just to shut her up, which resulted in peals of laughter and more talking. The massage was at best mediocre, and the BBBJ was ok but not outstanding but no cim and she stopped and ended up giving me a hand-crank cause 'mulut sakit'. I didn't go the FJ. Next came the difficult part, the tip. I certainly wasn't happy with things, but gave her 350, 000 and told her that was for the drinks (2 cokes) as well. This didn't go down too well, she wanted the whole lot as tip, but I told her I wasn't happy and walked out. Having read the forum over and over, I am sure this encounter was an exception and not the rule, but it was not an enjoyable experience and wouldn't go with her again unless she had a gag, but even then I'm sure she would manage to make enough noise to distract me.

Cheers guys,

Fieldmouse

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Lesson learnt, never count on the site but the object/gals.

100,000 rupiahs only for tip ?...not a chance to me !

I ever have the same experience in Travel, I submitted her name also in Photo gallery thread. Bad attitude girl.

cheers.

[quote=spice lover]3 weeks away from indonesia had me pining for the panti pijits of jakarta. went to kartika in the afternoon immediately after i returned and asked for cindy because she had been well recommended on this thread. we went upstairs and since i found her not well endowed decided to have a 2 girl experience, once again recommended here as a must-do before one dies kind of thing. i asked for rista based on ms's laudatory remarks. she joined us and i found her body more appealing than cindy's.

went through the soap routine and i thought that if i was a muslim i'd rather cavort among these houris than being a martyr for the 70 odd ones promised in heaven. but thereafter things went down hill. when i wanted karaoke, rista started to put the condom on and i had to insist on a bbbj- i thought bbbj was a standard offer. she would not let me play with her **** either claiming that my nails were long despite the fact that i had trimmed them just that morning. i had chosen rista for the fj act because of ms's mentioning that she had a really tight pussy. ( i was told that i could only pop once during the session and if i wanted to pop again or with the other girls i would have to increase the tip- something that i didn't mind) . i began with her in cowgirl postion. she made a big song of how painful the entry was even though i consider myself to be averagely endowed( i wonder why these girls don't keep ky jelly in their make-up bags since getting fucked is a part of their job description). she tried to speed up things and i had to constantly keep on asking her to slow down. with the result that she tried to threaten me with the clock saying that time was running out. in fact, she seemed to be a time watcher.

cindy was more obliging allowing me to play with her but her role in the proceedings was minimal except that she gave me a good mandi kucing. when i asked her to pay with my tea-bags while inside rista, the latter did not allow cindy to do so saying that it was not a good thing because cindy would be facing rista's pantat. later when i switched to doggie with rista she helped by pressing against my buttocks and swaying to the rhythm.

anyway, to cut a long story short i had one pop and might have extended the session by another half-an-hour but was told that i could only book another 1 hour one, something that i wasn't willing to do given my experience. so i did not enter cindy's pussy.

i paid 550k for the session although the total came to 520k with the new increased rates since i did'nt ask the girls to return the change. in addition, i gave them 100k each as a tip. despite this rista had the gumption to ask me for more! i think she has become to greedy and spoilt by the attention and shows an attitude that doesn't suit a wg.

but imho, i find that the 2 girl session is much over-rated. probably, i am too old for it. but you get only one hour and one pop for paying double. i wonder if a 2 body soapy massage compensates for the amount you shuck out. in terms of value for money its a very poor deal. if i have to spend that kind of money, i'll spend it at alexis where the ambience is good and the girls are well-mannered instead of a run-down pp. despite bulai's grouse about flat cokes and being out of place as a bule, i find alexis is the tops. anyway one thing is clear that i'll never ask for a session with rista again though i might ask for a 1 to 1 with cindy, if i ever find my place there again as she was quite sweet and obliging reminding me a bit of the late cynthia.[/quote]
on usasg, you'll often see the acronym ymmv - your mileage may vary - when it comes to sessions at an amp (asian massage parlor), meaning that the service level may vary from girl to girl, also that a particular girl may be "hot" one day and give lousy service the next day.

very surprised to read about rista's behavior as i've had over 20 sessions with her since 2004 and have never experienced the bad service you received. i've never seen her be a time watcher, and i don't recall her ever insisting on a cbj. nor have i ever been told that popping with both girls required an increased tip. she must have been having a very bad day; i do know that she's had very few customers lately and is hurting for money.

one reason for this may be that you accidentally broke the cardinal rule of a two-girl session, which is that you pick the first girl and let her pick the second one on her own - that way you are guaranteed to get two girls who get along well with each other.

it sounds as if cindy and rista don't get along as they certainly did not work well together. anytime you put a bunch of women together in the same place day after day, especially in a business where they compete for the same customer, you are bound to have jealous rivalries and catfights. for example, the late cynthia and sonia would not even speak to each other, much less work together in a two-girl combo, not sure why.

and i had a great two-girl session with rista and sonia two weeks ago, it helps that they are good friends with each other and get along well.

however, none of this excuses rista's poor service, and i feel bad as i had recommended her on the board here.

one good thing is that you've now discovered that cindy, despite her much-smaller-than-average breasts and slender but so-so body, is very sweet and gives good service. yes, you should definitely try cindy one-on-one next time, or else let her pick the second girl if you're looking for a threesome.

Guys I am a vet of Thailand. I live in PI. I want to just ask is Indonesia really worth a trip. It seems to be a complex mongering destination from the reports on this board but through other independent investigations I have heard that Indo-girls are the best in SE for P4P. I planning a short trip just to get my feet wet in next couple of months.

So whats the goods?

Take It Seazy

[QUOTE=Master Diver II] Many thanks to Panya as I called up "his" girl Dewi on the last day... She has to rate as one of the wettest pussies I've come across [/QUOTE]
Sob sob sob ... I am really bawling my guts out as I thought she only got wet for ME!

So bro, how about picking up a share of my "investment" : Rp 1 million spent for very 1st Session, Rp 500,000 for dinner at Sushi Sei and Rp 350,000 for karaoke (price of hercover charge and cup of coffee) on Day #2, Rp 800,000 for FS and Rp 600,000 Mulia charges for a SIMILAR 2-hour session on Day #3. Following that 1st Trip, Rp 800,000 for 2-nights at a different hotel, Rp500,000 dinner for 2 at The Grill in Mid-Plaza (where she spurned the expensive stuff, and ate only chicken wings and a glass of Ginger Tea), RM 350.00 for a bottle of Bulgari perfume (you can share the Rp 5,000 she gave me as a reciprocal :)) ... and Rp 250,000 for 2-nights on the 3rd Trip, after which she has refused to answer my call cos she probably felt I thought she was doing it for love ... I did!

I guess this gets me everyone's vote for "Hall of Fame for Suckers".

[QUOTE=Dorman]During the week I always wear a long sleeved open necked business shirt (I am self employed and usually work from my own office so I don't bother with a tie[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KL Guy]The dress code truly reminds me of my long lost friend Panya![/QUOTE]

Errr ... what's a CHINOS ... I RFF and couldn't figure it out. ;)

Best,
Panya

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman]

Very surprised to read about Rista's behavior as I've had over 20 sessions with her since 2004 and have never experienced the bad service you received. I've never seen her be a time watcher, and I don't recall her ever insisting on a CBJ. Nor have I ever been told that popping with both girls required an increased tip. She must have been having a very bad day; I do know that she's had very few customers lately and is hurting for money.
And I had a great two-girl session with Rista and Sonia two weeks ago, it helps that they are good friends with each other and get along well.

However, none of this excuses Rista's poor service, and I feel bad as I had recommended her on the board here.

One good thing is that you've now discovered that Cindy, despite her much-smaller-than-average breasts and slender but so-so body, is very sweet and gives good service. Yes, you should definitely try Cindy one-on-one next time, or else let her pick the second girl if you're looking for a threesome.[/QUOTE]

I have good reason to believe that Rista has a chlamydia infection- that's why she complained of pain during penetration. So buyer beware. Good if unsolicited advice to brother mongerers- a cbj is much safer even if a bbbj is more tempting!

[QUOTE=Panya]Sob sob sob ... I am really bawling my guts out as I thought she only got wet for ME!

So bro, how about picking up a share of my "investment" : Rp 1 million spent for very 1st Session, Rp 500,000 for dinner at Sushi Sei and Rp 350,000 for karaoke (price of hercover charge and cup of coffee) on Day #2, Rp 800,000 for FS and Rp 600,000 Mulia charges for a SIMILAR 2-hour session on Day #3. Following that 1st Trip, Rp 800,000 for 2-nights at a different hotel, Rp500,000 dinner for 2 at The Grill in Mid-Plaza (where she spurned the expensive stuff, and ate only chicken wings and a glass of Ginger Tea), RM 350.00 for a bottle of Bulgari perfume (you can share the Rp 5,000 she gave me as a reciprocal :)) ... and Rp 250,000 for 2-nights on the 3rd Trip, after which she has refused to answer my call cos she probably felt I thought she was doing it for love ... I did!

I guess this gets me everyone's vote for "Hall of Fame for Suckers".




Errr ... what's a CHINOS ... I RFF and couldn't figure it out. ;)

Best,
Panya[/QUOTE]
Bro,

The answer to the first question is NO, you can enjoy paying that kind of price and YES and NO - you might be a sucker but at least you wised up in time; albeit I acknowledge that her dripping wet pussy can be addictive! Actually 800,000 for two nights with a 500,000 dinner is not entirely crazy but there you go. I'm sure she was a wild ride those nights.

MD II

Chinos are casual but reasonably smart trousers usually natural fibre like cotton or linen (at least in our climate).

this was my first (not last) trip to indonesai. thank god for the isg - love you jackson!!!

jakarta is a huge, overwhelming city. i ended up at the ambhara hotel which is close to some cool shopping and blok m. good rooms, decent price for a nice hotel

after taking a nap i went to top gun, and it was just non stop girls. met a cool guy with lots of jakarta experience and he showed me the ropes. i hooked up with an adorable cute girl who was soooooo tiny. she wouldn’t stay long time cause she lived with her parents but had an awesome time for 300ir. she was tinny tiny tiny and got so wet during daty that i needed a shower.

the next night my friend to me to cj’s at the melai hotel. first, the hotel is amazing and cj’ was filled with girls of every ilk from blok m girls who put some makeup and nice clothes on hoping to charge double due to the higher end clientele to absolutely stunning women who charge 1m ir for the night. i was getting a serious case of jet lag so i crashed for the night.

my last night i took a cab to kota/china town to check out the scene. went to blue club with the nude show where the nude girls come to your table and for 10000r get you to buy a shot and then hung around your neck for a few minutes. not worth it. checked out travel hotel spa which was a zoo and then headed back to blok m.

met a chick and we played and danced with hands down the pants. it looked like she was a winner, negotiated 400 for the night if she promised it would be fun. got to the hotel and she was lame. no foreplay, no bbbj --- nothing. i told her to go home cause no bbbj – and finally gave in to 300 for no bbbj fs. i wanted to teach her that melodrama doesn’t work. funny tho…. she got totally into daty and ended up being fun. i gave her a tip anyway. what the hell.

oh, for those not up to speed on jkt you have to escort the girls downstairs to get a cab or hotel security hits them up and blackmails them. that doesn’t happen if you are with them.

i really love the vibe here. i will be back for sure.

[QUOTE=DeepVoid]She wouldn’t stay long time cause she lived with her parents but had an awesome time for 300IR. She was tinny tiny tiny and got so wet during DATY that I needed a shower.[/QUOTE]Glad you enjoyed yourself. I doubt that girl stayed with her parents. Almost all of these girls parents live in kampungs far outside Jakarta. It's more likely that she had to get back to her herpes infected bajaj driver indonesian boyfriend who was waiting on the blok for her to finish so he could collect the money you gave her and give her some dick. I'm sure he was watching you from his bajaj as you were taking her to the Ambhara. Those guys are out trying to shag anything they can while their girl is away, so she would be rushing back to him to avoid him doing one of the other girls there. As much as I enjoy shagging the Blok M girls, DATY with those girls is not something I would be interested in. I consider it tantamount to sucking off one of those bajaj drivers. The chances he was barebacking her just a few hours prior are extremely high.

I think Deep Void's good report of his first trip goes a long way to answer your question. (NB, CJ's is in Mulia hotel). I'm not sure why anyone might think it's "complex" to monger in Jakarta - it's not so "in your face" as BKK by a long long way but you don't have to be Sherlock Holmes solve the puzzle of where the girls can be found.

[QUOTE=Orangganteng]Glad you enjoyed yourself. I doubt that girl stayed with her parents. AlmostAs much as I enjoy shagging the Blok M girls, DATY with those girls is not something I would be interested in. I consider it tantamount to sucking off one of those bajaj drivers. The chances he was barebacking her just a few hours prior are extremely high.[/QUOTE]

You know that thing about 'nine degrees of separation'? I figure that if you shag a Blok M girl, and think about the guys she's shagged and the girls they shagged and the guys they shagged and so on, you do that nine times and you've got everyone in the whole world minus a few catholic priests.

Just don't worry about it too much.

I usually stay at JWM and haven't seen anything near the hotel where to have fun... anyone outthere with ideas? otherwise - are there call out services?

Hi All following on from my submissions in the Germany partytreff forums I would like to add a little spice to the indo one.

About a year ago I was called upon by my company to do a asia tour.

Started in Oz (boring)and moved to Indo (1st time there).

Having used the very useful info on the isg (thanks mateys).

I landed and arrived in the meridien showered and changed and off we go.

Immediately I set out on a quest to find the puss.

1 st stop taxi to the mega disco stadium in the north of the city.

Up to the 3rd floor to the hip hop bit, being a bule offered immediately a 250k rph bargirl, which I refused as I wanted to hunt on my own.

Very dark, very loud and mostly guys smoking (horrible indo habit) and few lasses After about an hour I leave and go by taxi to the hotel.

Not having covered 100 meter I am stopped for a id check.

Oops left the passport in the hotel safe.

Cops want a 250h rph donation to their christmas fund.

Sorry boys no dice, I just stay calm, smile and offer to take them to the hotel to see the docs.

Taxi patiently waits, meter ticking away.

After about 20 minutes of this foolishness the and my inane smiling the policeman gets bored and tells me to leave (even bigger inane smile now).

Go to the hotel and to tigah bar downstairs, several average girls asking to accompany me for the evening, but it is too easy.

Go home alone that night.

Next day a bit of work and later mall cruising, nothing special.

Go to the mega clothes wholesale market in the centre of town and have a nice chat with a 18 yr old pure christian girl and her granddad trying to sell her to me for the price of an additional sales booth.

Lots of beer stalls with backroom bonking opportunity near the station, but the ladies are well past the sell by date.

Evening comes and I try out blok m and all my fantasies are realised.

Stating at the end of the street and intending to work my way up to top gun.

I come across a rather strange looking girl cruising about the bar.

She is different to the others who sit on stools chain smoking.

She is lithe and moves to the music and flighty.

So I says to meself, this is worth the chase.

So out we goes to many a bar and dancing hiphop like loonies, me swinging her about rock and roll style (very light body).

Well to cut a very long story short we hook up and go back to my place and she stays with me for 4 days and nights for the princely sum of (guess).

60k rph (not including food and drink and a movie of course).

This girl is so slim and flexible she could put her legs behind her ears.

The relationship was quite intense and she invited me to her house (which is quite large in blok a and to see her small kids and the other girls lodging there.

He best friend, who is a real business lady was busy on the sms to her many suitors and got so sick of the messaging she threw the phone to me the reply to the johns! (which I did several of).

She had 3 sponsors and 20 other guys on the list.

Another day we all went swimming in the pool and had a 3 some shower in the room, excellent.

To this day I still get the odd sms from her.

Like Mac Arthur said I will return.

Michelin star rating for this experience 3 stars, almost unrepeatable.

Storys follow on Thailand and hk and prc in the coming days.

Have fun and keep safe.

The Frenchman

[QUOTE=Deque669]I usually stay at JWM and haven't seen anything near the hotel where to have fun... anyone outthere with ideas? otherwise - are there call out services?[/QUOTE]
You are 5 minutes away by taxi (in the evenings) from Tiga Puluh at Le Meridien Hotel, and 10 minutes away from either BATS at the Shangri-La Hotel or CJ's at the Mulia Hotel (Jl. Asia Africa). Those are the 3 most popular pick-up night spots for visiting expats.

You are also 15 minutes away or so from Blok M where you can find the middle-end clubs (Top Gun, etc.) and the Maribaya Spa on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai.

It's at least 30 minutes or more to the mps and other spots in Kota.

Closer to you, supposedly the night club at the Ritz-Carlton (across the street from the Marriott) can be a hot spot, have never been there personally.

For massages with a guaranteed HJ at the end (but probably nothing more), the Jaspa Spa is a 3-minute walk from the Marriott (inside Mal Ambasador), and the Fortune Spa is across from Le Meridien Hotel (again, 5 minutes away by taxi). Both are clean and comfortable, not dumps.

Look forward to reading a report from you of your exploits!

[QUOTE=Deque669]I usually stay at JWM and haven't seen anything near the hotel where to have fun... anyone outthere with ideas? otherwise - are there call out services?[/QUOTE]
Another site is Delta Gatot Subroto, find the address in thread info.

Massage is good and followed by happy ending HJ.

Hi,

can you share any good massage lady no please.


[QUOTE=Oyenk]Another site is Delta Gatot Subroto, find the address in thread info.

Massage is good and followed by happy ending BJ.[/QUOTE]

Ya man.

I've never had BJ in spa before.

Is there anyone who knows where can visit nearby Four Seasons Hotel? I might want to get some outcall pallors with reasonable prices as well.. if that's all possible, thanks brothers!

[QUOTE=Oyenk]Another site is Delta Gatot Subroto, find the address in thread info.

Massage is good and followed by happy ending BJ.[/QUOTE]

If your going to the Delta that I know which is around Kuningan area, then you should try no 90 or 82.

I was just over there on Friday & 82 was a good choice recommended by the lady captain. Should give her a try!

[QUOTE=Tunjing1]Hi,

can you share any good massage lady no please.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, suppoused to be HJ not BJ...

I have reported my own post to be edited by Admin or Moderator...Thanks.

Ok. Maybe I should have posted this in Semarang forum. But what the heck.

So until a few months ago Id basically never heard of Semarang and certainly never been there.

Then on one Jakarta trip I meet a very very very tasty lady from Semarang. We got on great and are still chatting and meeting every so often.

Found another chat friend who is a model. Totally gorgeous legs and when she came to KL, I invited her out from a date. Somewhere along the way, I asked her where shes from. Semarang.

Then on a recent trip to Jakarta I had another chat friend who clearly indicated fun was on the menu. We met and fun was most certainly on the menu. And she was from. Yeah. Semarang.

And this week. Found a new internet friend who is about to be invited to KL to spend a weekend with me based upon her charm and extremely sexy body. And she of course of course is from Semarang.

Does this city have a stranglehold on all Java's hotties or is it all coincidence.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Ok. Maybe I should have posted this in Semarang forum. But what the heck.

So until a few months ago Id basically never heard of Semarang and certainly never been there.

Then on one Jakarta trip I meet a very very very tasty lady from Semarang. We got on great and are still chatting and meeting every so often.

Found another chat friend who is a model. Totally gorgeous legs and when she came to KL, I invited her out from a date. Somewhere along the way, I asked her where shes from. Semarang.

Then on a recent trip to Jakarta I had another chat friend who clearly indicated fun was on the menu. We met and fun was most certainly on the menu. And she was from. Yeah. Semarang.

And this week. Found a new internet friend who is about to be invited to KL to spend a weekend with me based upon her charm and extremely sexy body. And she of course of course is from Semarang.

Does this city have a stranglehold on all Java's hotties or is it all coincidence.[/QUOTE]


Semarang is the capital of Central Java, most girls from this area will say that they are from Semarang. Ladies from surrounding areas ie. Jepara, Pati etc. present in a significant quantity in Jakarta as working girls. They are very open minded to foreigners and very friendly. You are very lucky to click with a few of them.

[QUOTE=FreebieFan]Does this city have a stranglehold on all Java's hotties or is it all coincidence.[/QUOTE]

You are probably more likely to find girls from Indramayu than Semarang, Jogja or Solo in the bars and brothels around town, at least at the lower end of the scale. But Central Javanese girls from the last three towns are usually much nicer and more fun, as a rough and general rule.

Hi bro,

Just want to file a field report.

I was stuck in Jakarta, miss my connecting flight from Bali, to the States.

Not that is a bad thing, but was not planned for.

So I check out the hotel price at the airport, and decided to call the sex travel agent to pick me up and take to their hotel that is at better rate as the are a travel company.

Knowing from the experiences that the agent does not take last min booking I was heart broken before I tried. While was in the car I ask the driver if there is any thing going on tonight, IE; could I join a group in progress, the driver told me to call the handler, he thinks that the company has events with some new venues.

So I called the company and ask to speak to the dispatcher.

They have a night sex event set up for two months leading up till the Fasting month. It starts at about 1730 hrs till 0200 hrs.

There will a strip tease show, sex with two girls at a brothel and massage at a spa. The spa is sure not as plush as some of the high class brothels but it more than makes it up with the selection, price and services.

The price for this tour; including transportation, entrances to the striptease show, and the travel agent company's discounted price for the brothels at minimum 30% off [unless I want to pay it myself] and one session of massage. Not bad I think to myself.

For those that have used the company's services you would know some of the handlers.

They were busy moving customer between these venues, between the spas and striptease show and KTV's, I had the chance to talk to one of the handler and was inform that the company is working with the service provider to combine the spa, KTV's and bars at the 3 locations own by one owner for a nightly event and the travel agent is handling all the ground transport and security, so they are quite busy taking a group to the first place and picking and the group to another venue and so on and on.

Really enjoy myself.

My humble two cents.

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[QUOTE=Aakumu]Hi bro,

Just want to file a field report.


They have a night sex event set up for two months leading up till the Fasting month. It starts at about 1730 hrs till 0200 hrs.

There will a strip tease show, sex with two girls at a brothel and massage at a spa. The spa is sure not as plush as some of the high class brothels but it more than makes it up with the selection, price and services.

The price for this tour; including transportation, entrances to the striptease show, and the travel agent company's discounted price for the brothels at minimum 30% off [unless I want to pay it myself] and one session of massage. Not bad I think to myself.

For those that have used the company's services you would know some of the handlers.

They were busy moving customer between these venues, between the spas and striptease show and KTV's, I had the chance to talk to one of the handler and was inform that the company is working with the service provider to combine the spa, KTV's and bars at the 3 locations own by one owner for a nightly event and the travel agent is handling all the ground transport and security, so they are quite busy taking a group to the first place and picking and the group to another venue and so on and on.

Really enjoy myself.

My humble two cents.

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Glad you enjoyed yourself. But the report would have been more useful and informative if you indicated the price for your enjoyment and let us see if you got a good deal or were ripped off.

[QUOTE=Aakumu]
My humble two cents.

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Your humble two cents or Spam of Distinction?

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]Glad you enjoyed yourself. But the report would have been more useful and informative if you indicated the price for your enjoyment and let us see if you got a good deal or were ripped off.[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

I did not want to sound like I was paddling this travle agent or anything, but if the forum allow it the price was RP1,500,000 for the that package.

Different package might cost different.

My huble two cents.

[QUOTE=Neverwin]Is there anyone who knows where can visit nearby Four Seasons Hotel? I might want to get some outcall pallors with reasonable prices as well.. if that's all possible, thanks brothers![/QUOTE]I'll be staying at the Four Seasons Hotel next weekend. Any updates on this hotel? Is it girl friendly? What about nearby places?

[QUOTE=Imagetopixel]I'll be staying at the Four Seasons Hotel next weekend. Any updates on this hotel? Is it girl friendly? What about nearby places?[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Near your hotel, there is a few places to go like BATs is about ten mins drive and CJs about 30mins in good traffic.

The hotel is girl friendly, so no problem there.

I personally have my way to enjoy, if you are interested let me by way of PM and I will pass you their contacts.

My humble two cents.

It's not very girl friendly. You need the door key to take the elevator 24 hr.

Nearby places I have no idea. Would be great if any expats can give some guidance!

[QUOTE=Imagetopixel]I'll be staying at the Four Seasons Hotel next weekend. Any updates on this hotel? Is it girl friendly? What about nearby places?[/QUOTE]

Hi Guys,
Sorry to sound like an absolute newbie but if a woman says she is doing it for the pleasure and you don't have to pay her for the sex but only taxi money, how much do you give her?. 300k, 400k? Or is it dependent on how far she is traveling or has spent on traveling (of course, you really never know) or whether it is ST/LT?

Any guidance from senior and more experienced members will be most welcome. Grateful thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]Hi Guys,
Sorry to sound like an absolute newbie but if a woman says she is doing it for the pleasure and you don't have to pay her for the sex but only taxi money, how much do you give her?. 300k, 400k? Or is it dependent on how far she is traveling or has spent on traveling (of course, you really never know) or whether it is ST/LT?

Any guidance from senior and more experienced members will be most welcome. Grateful thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

Taxi money is actually a camouflaged way of paying the fee. Normally I pay anything between 300 K and 500K depending on the quality of service. And the next time when you call her, you will know whether she liked your fee or not, depending on her response. If she did not like your fee, then the answer would be that she's been busy etc, or you may not get any response to your sms messages. But if she was happy, you will be hounded by sms messages and will tell you how much she likes you, blah...blah...blah

I've posted on this place before but this was a slightly different situation. I had time to spare at the airport earlier this week and in the interest of research for the forum I took a room for 90 minutes complete with masseuse for the same period. This is a standard deal and costs Rp325k. When the girl arrived she was not at all "my type" (must be less than half my age and half my weight) but she was friendly, around 25 and not ugly. Her massage technique was really excellent and "everything" was available, for extra cost obviously. As this was to be my last experience until I returned I went for HJ which was as good as I've had, albeit quite expensive at Rp400k (beaten down fairly easily from 1 juta!) Expensive of course, given you can get a better girl all night for the same or less money - but you have to pay for convenience I guess.

there is a new bar at blok m (jl. faletehan) called "highway to elle". it's between everest and d's place.

there is an upstairs bar with a pool table and a few go go dancing girls. nice bar and the bar girls seem to be nice and chatty. i guess the place has potential especially after the relocation of d's.

d's seems to be picking up speed again. was really going last night.

[QUOTE=Spice Lover]Hi Guys,
Sorry to sound like an absolute newbie but if a woman says she is doing it for the pleasure and you don't have to pay her for the sex but only taxi money, how much do you give her?. 300k, 400k? Or is it dependent on how far she is traveling or has spent on traveling (of course, you really never know) or whether it is ST/LT?

Any guidance from senior and more experienced members will be most welcome. Grateful thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
If she likes you because you're a handsome bule, just put in her bag during farewell moment...let's say 100,000 rupiahs (if she lives downtown JKT)...see her reaction, if bad reaction in her eyes; give another 200,000 rupiahs (this indicates she likes your wallet).
Next time prepare 400,000 rupiahs (300,000 rupiahs for tip ST or LT and 100,000 rupiahs for taxi).

Don't tip too much...many JKT gals there hehehe !

enjoy !

Went to Jaspa, there is a shorts on policy, the girl I had (have had before with great HJ), was petrified of being sacked if caught with customer without shorts on. She appologised profusly and asked if I would still give a tip, I passed on 100K, felt pretty sorry for her I must say. I also obtained her number to enable me to pass on more funds to her, if you get my drift.

On a previous trip about 3 weeks ago, I had HJ with different provider, who had her own tissues, she was also rather concerned. It seems like the clean policy is being ratcheted up. Todays girl, stated visitor numbers are down. I will go back in a month as a social experiment to see if the owners principles are bigger than his need for previous profits. Lets wait and see shall we.

Cheers

SIJ

[QUOTE=Neverwin]It's not very girl friendly. You need the door key to take the elevator 24 hr.

Nearby places I have no idea. Would be great if any expats can give some guidance![/QUOTE]This has all been stated before on the forum, but "most" hotels in Jakarta are GF. I do not know about the Four Seasons since I have never stayed there, but I do know the Hayatt is very GF. I once called for a massage from someone outside the hotel, and the bellman arranged to have the girl show up at my room without me going down to the lobby to escort her up to my room.

Woodman

I'm looking for a girl/woman that can do a good decent deep throat blowjob in Jakarta.

Anybody have some suggestions?

Thanks

[quote=drfcarpenter]there is a new bar at blok m (jl. faletehan) called "highway to elle". it's between everest and d's place.

there is an upstairs bar with a pool table and a few go go dancing girls. nice bar and the bar girls seem to be nice and chatty. i guess the place has potential especially after the relocation of d's.

d's seems to be picking up speed again. was really going last night.[/quote]

highway has been going around 8 months if not longer... very popular with a lot of the ex level one ds drinkers.
not much girl action, a few come in for the lucky draw but do not really mix. thy shoot through again as soon as the draw is over.
highway is a great place for a few drinks and watching the dancers before heading off to grab a girl at top gun or mybar or ds.

[QUOTE=Woodman]This has all been stated before on the forum, but "most" hotels in Jakarta are GF. I do not know about the Four Seasons since I have never stayed there, but I do know the Hayatt is very GF.. I once called for a massage from someone outside the hotel, and the bellman arranged to have the girl show up at my room without me going down to the lobby to escort her up to my room.

Woodman[/QUOTE]
Hyatt Aryaduta bro...

A five star hotel I think, no wonder has excellent service. Four Season is also a five star.

[QUOTE=Jakartaman3000]I'm looking for a girl/woman that can do a good decent deep throat blowjob in Jakarta.

Anybody have some suggestions?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi bro,

Hotel Melawai block M area is a great place to start.

My humble two cents.

[QUOTE=Jakartaman3000]I'm looking for a girl/woman that can do a good decent deep throat blowjob in Jakarta.

Anybody have some suggestions?

Thanks[/QUOTE]
There's a freelancer in Atrium that does amazing BJ's. Very skillful, goes all the way down to the base of your dick. As you have only one post- I hope you'll know someone in the forum to PM. Alternatively you can pay for a sub. I don't have a hp number to share, but can tell you exact location where to look and hold some pics of what she looks like. Otherwise, try the Bali Hai.. you can tap their heads to have them take turns.

Normally I buy my tickets either via a cheap Chinese travel agent in my hometown or directly online at Malaysian, Qantas, Singapore airlines, Jetstar or Airasia.. -more and more nowadays, there are some good deals available via the web- but if I was to buy some airline tickets in Jkt, could anyone recommend me a good travel agent that doesn't rip me off for tickets going either to Europe or Australia? Many thanks!

Was in Jakarta for 2 nights last week for work and stayed at the Shang's.

Paid a visit to BATS on the first night, about 10-ish. Must admit the standards have dropped in this place. Picked up an average looking chick (not much choices left when you are this horny), named Dian. 600k for ST, well didn't want to negotiate since i was tired of going elsewhere and my dick needed some pussy urgently.

Well, she was real horny, going straight down to the little bro and BBJ even before we fully undressed, Great to see her take evry inch of my dick in her mouth. Had 2 rounds with her, missionary, doggy on bed and in front of the mirror at the study table. She stayed till 2 am. Medium recommendation.

Headed out to Blok M on the scond night. After having some drinks at D's, headed into My Bar about midnight. The girls were just streaming in and i settled down with some pool whilst checking out the scenes. Ended up with this girl named Anis, 25yo, tight body, firm ass for 400K LT. A little quite she is but she really opened up when it came time to perform. gave me along BBJ that almost came in her mouth. She prevented the spillage by taking it all over her tits, before we proceeded a round of screwing on the sofa. She had that great look when I was doing her doggy and asked her to look at me...whew.

Slept for a while before we commenced to round 2 and a further round at 7am before she left. Was a sporting kid. Would see her again, but not so soon. There so much to pick from in Jkt.

Cheers

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[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]There's a freelancer in Atrium that does amazing BJ's. Very skillful, goes all the way down to the base of your dick. As you have only one post- I hope you'll know someone in the forum to PM. Alternatively you can pay for a sub. I don't have a hp number to share, but can tell you exact location where to look and hold some pics of what she looks like. Otherwise, try the Bali Hai.. you can tap their heads to have them take turns.[/QUOTE]That sounds very interesting, atrium, you mean aston atrium?. i would really appreciate it if you could post some pics and if possible her name in the photo gallery.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen] could anyone recommend me a good travel agent that doesn't rip me off for tickets going either to Europe or Australia? Many thanks![/QUOTE]

KemTravel 021 78846874 I have been using them for around 5 years, no issues at all. In Kemang as name suggests but will give prices and itineraries etc by email.

i was in jakarta this past friday, saturday and sunday. well i have to say that jakarta is like a hidden gem for mongers. in my opinion this is the best mongering location in asia. the girls are just so plentiful and so compliant and there are just so many different formats and venues for the monger and i am sure we only just barely scraped the surface. thanks to all the posters on here for your great information and especially to spearsman and oyenk. anyway here is my trip report:

today country – this is in the same area as kartika and stadium nightclub and the directions previously posted on here are exactly correct. cost is 250,000 all in and i thought this place was a lot of fun and a great entertainment venue for a saturday afternoon. thoroughly recommended although the service can be a little so so.

marabaya bar – this is on the 6th floor of the melawei hotel in blok m. i am surprised this place doesn’t get more attention as i thought it was a great little afternoon diversion and is very convenient for afternoon action if you are staying in the blok m area. 400,000 all in and the service was excellent with a selection of about 10 girls and 3 or 4 of them were very attractive.
stadium nightclub – wow!! i thought this place was awesome and unlike anything you will see anywhere else. i had imagined that the nightclub area would be crappy but how wrong i was. this place is right up there with the superclubs of europe. a really nice venue with really great music and full of nice people (mainly cos they are all on ecstasy!!). i was here from midnight until about 3am and the place was absolutely rocking and as far as i could tell i was the only white guy in there. i felt very safe and comfortable though and didn’t feel any problems at all. it is like a fantasy nightclub because most of the people in there are normal people enjoying themselves but interspersed all through the crowd are loads of beautiful girls that are all available to be taken upstairs to the short time rooms. the rooms are really nice too with big screens of the dancefloor and music through speakers in the room. it is almost like fucking a girl on the dancefloor!! mamasans introuduce you to the girls if needed. the disco is on the 4th floor and there is a cocktail lounge on the 3rd floor also full of beautiful and available women!! on the 2nd floor is a massage parlour if you feel the need. stadium is a real spectacle and for me was the highlight of my jakarta trip..about 1am i took a stunning 19 year old girl upstairs to the shorttime rooms and the cost was 300,000 all in..she was a great performer too although it seems that 99% of indo girls are great performers!! my friends were lazy and stayed in blok m on saturday night and so i went to stadium on my own and really felt comfortable (although i could not find a bluebird taxi to get home and used some other provider which actually was fine anyway).

blok m – blok m was absolutely pumping on friday night but strangely enough was a fair bit quieter on saturday night and really dead on sunday night. friday night at my bar was absolutely packed with hot girls and as previously reported they were streaming in after 1am. prices seem to be a bit out of control in blok m though with most girls asking for 500,000 to 600,000 for short time but most settling for 400,000. blok m is great and really if you cant fnd what you are looking for here on a friday night then you won’t find it anywhere!!

jakarta is awesome and the girls are all great performers..i would really recommend a trip to jakarta for all mongers. i do think the best fun is to be had in the more off the wall places rather than the safety of blok m although blok m is not to be missed on friday nights.

Ok. This is not a report for the 20's somethings. But those of us who are a tad grey (assumng we still have hair). Etc

Me. Am in early 50's. Still in Ok shape and still got hair!

Anyway some time ago met a cutie in JKTA exactly half my age. We get on great, sex and everything is great and I once asked her about the age thing. Said she had nothing in common with guys her own age and had grown to enjoy over 45 as a minimum age for which to date guys.

So now theres Plan b. For that rainy day need. Shes also half my age, just finished with a 60 year old. And said she was happy with me as I'm younger than her last guy. And whats even better. Is that since turning 50 I've found more women than ever before.

However its not all good. Was exchanging sms with a young lady this am. Only 21. After a few sms including the how old are you question. She said I was too old. Ah well. Can't win them all.

Anyone else in same category?

[QUOTE=Cooze Hound]KemTravel 021 78846874 I have been using them for around 5 years, no issues at all. In Kemang as name suggests but will give prices and itineraries etc by email.[/QUOTE]
Thanks, Cooze Hound... prices per e-mail- that's great. I called them, but got the message that the number is not in use, in Indonesian. Their website lists the same number [url]http://www.kemtravel.com/[/url] ..I tried to call them from overseas, but that shouldn't make any difference. Perhaps they recently changed number.

btw.. on their website they advertise Indonesia as "a country with numerous business and investment opportunities in rich cultural heritage surroundings". Opportunities and rich surroundings.. I'd agree with that.

[QUOTE=Jakartaman3000]That sounds very interesting, atrium, you mean aston atrium?..[/QUOTE]
Yes, the mall, not the Aston Atrium hotel adjacent to it. She sometimes hangs out with her friends in Kafe Cappucino, which is right in the middle, second floor. No, I can't add her pic due to security in the mall. The Kafe is one of 5 major pick-up points in Atrium and late afternoon/early evening hours holds the better of freelancers, which would be on average still less in looks than what you'll find in blok M.

Maybe others hold some better suggestions, but Bali hai aka the Club would be my tip for BJ's in general.. as soon as you walk in, there are at least 5 girls that jump on you, so chances are you'll find one with the most pleasant BJ's skills.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy] Thanks to all the posters on here for your great information and especially to Spearsman and Oyenk. Anyway here is my trip report:
[/QUOTE]
It's a pleasure...

And nice report you have bro.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen]Normally I buy my tickets either via a cheap Chinese travel agent in my hometown or directly online at Malaysian, Qantas, Singapore airlines, Jetstar or Airasia.. -more and more nowadays, there are some good deals available via the web- but if I was to buy some airline tickets in Jkt, could anyone recommend me a good travel agent that doesn't rip me off for tickets going either to Europe or Australia? Many thanks![/QUOTE]


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