FKK Golden Gate / old Villa Vertigo in Grefrath NRW

I heard line-up has been bad the last weeks/days as most of the top acts have left the club. That true? If yes, I'll go to LR, GT or PHG next week.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]I heard line-up has been bad the last weeks/days as most of the top acts have left the club. That true? If yes, I'll go to LR, GT or PHG next week.HB[/QUOTE]



Hey HB,

I was there last Sunday and have to report that the lineup was pretty thin. One cannot fairly judge a place by a Sunday lineup, but there were only three or four girls who made my clock tick.

Facilities are top, but if Sunday was any indication, then the club has a little way to go girl-wise. I had a good session with a tall, red-headed Russian named Tatiana, and looked hard at Angelina and Adrianna. Both are a little more fleshy than the web pictures indicate, but both are rather cute.

Lineup-wise, GT is still the place, but word is that a crew of new Romanians are at PHG now, so who knows?

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]I heard line-up has been bad the last weeks/days as most of the top acts have left the club. That true? If yes, I'll go to LR, GT or PHG next week.

HB[/QUOTE]

Some girls left and some new girls arrived! The line-up in VV is not that bad but is better in the evening than in the afternoon.
The typical number of girls you will find in VV, GT, PHG and LR were already mentioned in the report of Willem2.

Recently they started with finishing the garden, see also:
[url]http://www.villavertigo.de/[/url] and
[url]http://www.blog.villavertigo.de/[/url]

[QUOTE=Dedalus]
Lineup-wise, GT is still the place, but word is that a crew of new Romanians are at PHG now, so who knows?[/QUOTE]

In PHG you will always find a lot of Romanian girls. Last Saturday I counted about 15 Romanian girls in PHG. Some of them were relatively new. But most of them were familiar faces for me.

Note that because of Orthodox easter this weekend most Romanian girls are now at their families home.

And indeed there is no such thing as the best club! The judgement best is determined by a by definition subjective taste statement.

@HB,

When you visit NRW have a look on meeting point on [url]http://www.ijsberenforum.nl/forum/index.php[/url] :-)!

Big30

I'll be there next Friday or the Friday after. I have to make the way back to Rhein-Main at night, so VV or LR would be just a hinch closer. I'll see.

HB

I thought VV had a pool...don't see it in the link to the outdoor shot.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]I heard line-up has been bad the last weeks/days as most of the top acts have left the club. That true? If yes, I'll go to LR, GT or PHG next week.

HB[/QUOTE]

Ah, the dilemma a new club has of keeping enough men to attract the girls and enough girls to attract the guys.

[QUOTE=Breadman]I thought VV had a pool...don't see it in the link to the outdoor shot.[/QUOTE]

Do not worry the pool is still there! It is expected that the pool and garden will open next week.

[QUOTE]Wir eröffnen nächste Woche bei schönem Wetter den Außenbereich und beenden damit die letzten Verbesserungen am Haus. Bei den Gartenmöbeln wurde wieder auf top – Qualität und Design geachtet. “Die »Poolnixen« der Villa freuen sich schon darauf, wenn es heißt: Der Pool ist eröffnet! Seien sie mit dabei und genießen Sie den neuen Park der Villa Vertigo. [/QUOTE]

Big30

[QUOTE=Big30]Do not worry the pool is still there! It is expected that the pool and garden will open next week.

Big30[/QUOTE]


They are also having a Gentleman Poker Night on the 15th (I think). I tried to get them to tell me if it was a Texas-Hold 'Em game, but the gal at the desk, while really sweet, doesn't know Poker from Pokeman.

Cheers,

Dedalus

[QUOTE=Dedalus]They are also having a Gentleman Poker Night on the 15th (I think). I tried to get them to tell me if it was a Texas-Hold 'Em game, but the gal at the desk, while really sweet, doesn't know Poker from Pokeman.

Cheers,

Dedalus[/QUOTE]

The poker game will be May 13th. For info see,
[url]http://www.poker-eurostars.de/artikel.php?ID=19[/url]

First price wil be ... Platz 1: EINE LAS VEGAS REISE (= A TRIP TO LAS VEGAS)

Big30

This continues on from the Golden Time thread. GETTING THERE: when you turn off the main road onto Bahnstrasse, number 90 is right there on the opposite side of the road from the industrial estate.

This was my first ever visit to VV, so I was particularly keen to get cracking. Once again I arrived at 11.01 in the morning. After showering, I encountered 8 or 12 fully clothed men walking around (rather like in a “Carry On” film, except no one was smiling). I later found out that this was a police raid in progress and they stopped other punters from entering the club. So I had the whole place to myself for 45 minutes – well, me and 7 or 8 young ladies, all with their trademark sun-tans.

Having been spoilt rotten the previous day in GT, none of the girls stood out, so I settled in with a drink and a magazine for the long haul.

A tall, 32 year old Croatian called Annabel struck up a conversation with me and I ended up taking her to a room. She was nice and friendly before we went to the room (and during and after for that matter) but her heart was not in the sex. I wouldn’t really advise people to ignore her, but then again she's not a hot tip either. I did not extend to one hour.

Later on, I had a similar experience with Madeline – a short, busty blond from St Petersburg. She was pleasant, friendly, good-looking, her boobs were large and firm, but the sex was mechanical and her heart was not in it. She wanted €50 for a CIM finish. I declined. Once again I did not extend to one hour as she was getting bored.

My final (and best by a long margin) session of the day was with Maya (pronounced My-ah) – a 32 year old, leggy Polish girl. Her face was certainly not the prettiest, and her boobs were certainly not the largest and firmest around that day, but her legs were unbelievable. I think I have a fetish for girls who have long legs as a proportion of their total height – and funnily enough all the ones I have met over the years have been either Polish or of Polish origin. Maya was genuinely pleasant and willing to share, although there was a slight undercurrent of something that I could not quite put my finger on. She said that she had only done this job for four days and that the next day she would be going back to Poland. She had heard about VV after watching a program about it on Pro7, but had not quite heard the name correctly and had spent a long time on Google trying to find it. She wanted to charge me €70 for the full hour and not €75 or €100 – so this was something else I appreciated, as I felt generous when I gave her €90. She said that as a teenager she had done a bit of modelling but had quit when told that she should get her weight down to 45kgs. “Bloody hell”, I thought, “I’m shagging a model”.

Maya is now the second Polish girl in her 30s that I’ve had fantastically good sessions with this year and I’m beginning to form the hypothesis that just sticking to Poles is not a bad strategy to follow in order to maximise the chances of a good session.

Later in the afternoon a group of Dutch guys who use the ijsberenforum arrived and we were able to compare notes. This was good. It’s always fun to hook up with fellow punters, especially the ijsberen guys. I told one of them that I’m going through a doubles phase at the moment and our good-natured conversation went something like this: -

“What? Are you crazy? You get pairs of girls going around asking for trios and then when you are in the room one just stands in the corner and watches. Then they kiss each other once and demand extra money for a lesbie show.”

“Well, that’s never happened to me.”

“You’ve been lucky.”

“I always negotiate up-front what I want. Not very romantic, I know, but that’s what I do.”

“Ah, don’t feel that way. This is a business and romance doesn’t come into it.”

And THAT’S the point you have to always bear in mind.

And another thing – over my two days none of the girls would DFK me, not even Maya. What’s going on there?

Kingwenslas

[QUOTE=Kingwenslas]Later in the afternoon a group of Dutch guys who use the ijsberenforum arrived and we were able to compare notes.
This was good. It’s always fun to hook up with fellow punters, especially the ijsberen guys.[/QUOTE]I wasn't there on April 30, but will be today, sunny wheather !
Next time you'll visit VV, you'll find the pool & garden opened.
According to the guys on IJsberenforum, VV did a fine job :).

Hi Fellow mongers!

Me and five buddies will be arriving saturday and staying through monday at the villa. Anyone else coming to try out the new swimming pool?

Cheers

C

[QUOTE=Kingwenslas] And another thing – over my two days none of the girls would DFK me, not even Maya. What’s going on there?[/QUOTE]

Kingwenslas,

It can be hit an miss but more hit than miss in my experience I am sorry compared to your experience. MY Oase visit sessions in each case had DFK involved. My GT, PHG, YY and VV visits in NRW had hit and miss on DFK. IN some cases I was in a hurry to get my rocks off so DFK was not an issue but in many cases DFK was on the menu even if for a little while before I wanted her mouth on my cock.

I do like a bit of kissing with the girls and a fondle befoere I get down to the suck.

Regards

Londonbasketcase

[QUOTE=Cynical]Hi Fellow mongers!

Me and five buddies will be arriving saturday and staying through monday at the villa. Anyone else coming to try out the new swimming pool?[/QUOTE]

Cynical,

I may be visiting VV on Sunday next weekend 25 May so I will miss seeing you and your 5 buddies in the pool at VV.

I was at VV in April and the place looks like it will be a top notch in terms of facilities. It just needs a stellar line up of girls to complement the first class fit out.

LBC

Sunday I went with a pal to Golden Time at about 4PM. My pal is not Caucasian and told me previously he had been turned away at GT. No problem, I thought, we’ll go together and they won’t turn us away.

At the door, the woman comes out as my pal rings the bell and tells us the club is full. Not to rant too much, but my pal is clearly older, has money, is well groomed and spends money of the ladies and treats them politely. I understand the German ethic of private establishments may refuse service to anyone at their discretion. It just strikes me as rather stupid turning away someone because of race. Plus, GT is not exactly a German only establishment.

So we head over to VV, which my pal likes and I have never been too. Nice facilities. Attractive ladies as well, although probably only about 15 in attendance. My pal informs me that the place has more of a girlfriend vibe as the women want to get to know you a bit before heading off to the room. The place has a Kino, but my friend says there really isn’t any Kino action going on. The women aren’t allowed to approach, but they have their ways of indicating interest. After a couple of hours, our pal LBC, who was waiting for us at GT, turns up at VV. My other pal, indicates the Polish clique of girls, noting that his favorite at this club is part of the group. I pick out a cute one with shoulder length dark blond hair, late 20s. By the description in Ice Bears, I believe it was Tessa. BJ was average. Sex was enjoyable, but not necessarily better than with a non-working girl. She also didn’t do FT. After the sex, we chatted for a while as a bit of rapport developed. She told me, unsolicited, that some of the girls at the club do a lot of coke to handle the difficulties of the job, but not her. In the end, paid her for an hour. Can’t remember if it was 75 or 100.

Enjoyed the grill dinner. Very tasty.

As the evening wore on, I noticed a number of ladies looking in the Kino. I decided to see if I could spread some Kino culture so I parked myself in the Kino and decided to play Kino pot luck. The first lady that strolls in is a Thai lady, probably late thirties but could be in her 40s. Anyway, I was game as she came over and started caressing little Radler. A decent Kino BJ ensued. At this point, LBC brings a young lady in the Kino as well. They get up on the raised platform with us, but LBC’s girl is a shy young lady as she builds a little privacy wall out of cushions. Anyway, my Thai lady’s BJ is OK, and I ask her if I can finish in her mouth. She informs me that it is 25E extra. This is where it gets weird. As I get close, she takes me out of her mouth and proceeds to jack me off, pointing my cock at her open mouth, while she is making faces she clearly learned from cum swallowing porn. OK, I kind of digging the visual even if I would prefer she were sucking. Anyway, as I cum, she closes her mouth but moves my cock around to give her face a good painting. She then proceeds to very proudly display our handywork. OK, that was kind of interesting. When the time comes to pay up, I give her 75E which she seems delighted with.

Afterwords, hanging with LBC and my other pal, LBC informs me his girl was beating his balls during the hand job/blow job. I tried to teach LBC the useful German phrase, “Schlag nicht meine Eier.” Which can come in hand in that situation.

On Monday, with LBC leading the group, we did manage to get my pal into GT, so that had a happy ending. On Tuesday, my pal wanted to return to VV. As I was in the midst of a week long fuck fest, I didn’t mind another slower day. Some points of interest. There was one woman there reading a book who looked north of 50. Let’s just say she could probably do some Oma porn. Some of the more Zaftig ladies at Berndt looked like school girls compared to her.

I noticed an exotic looking woman about 30, middle eastern or latina, with beautiful blow job lips and a nice figure. I noticed her hanging out with guys and wandering off to the room with them. After she returned from the room, I pounced. I sat with her and attempted to strike up a conversation. Everything was a one or two word answer. She was from Morocco. Anyway, I popped the question and off to the room we went.

I should have heeded the warning signs. Total train wreck in the room. She proceed to wank me, not very sensually and seems annoyed that I don’t get instantly hard. No kissing allowed. I point out that the standard program involves a BJ. She gets out a condom and starts to try to give me a half hearted covered BJ. I ask what gives and she replies that she does everything safe. Her BJ, even covered does not actually putting my cock in her mouth, but rather kind of kissing it through the condom. As I am not getting hard from this exercise in sensuality, she proceeds to wank me while insulting me. She says I am not a real man as a real man is hard and strong. At this point I have had enough of this crap and bail. I pay up, glad to have this train wreck at an end. In hind sight, I should have disputed with the manageress.

Anyway, my antidote to the train wreck was a real sleazy session. I wander into the Kino. Who arrives to greet me, but Oma, the German GILF (Grandma I’d lie to fuck). OK, this is just what the doctor ordered. If I can perform with Oma, I will have no lingering doubts about my masculinity. I’m going to leave out the details as frankly I don’t like recalling it, but let’s just say, mission accomplished.

Afterwords, I meet up with my pal. The session with Oma did the trick as I’m somewhat amused with myself that I would go to that level. We are both rather punchy at this point. We are sitting on the patio overlooking the pool, while a youngish guy is chasing one of the girls around the pool. He eventually caught her and threw her in. He was one of those guys who couldn’t keep still, so we both thought he was coked up. His girl was none too happy about being thrown in the pool, but kept hanging around him. Frankly, she was a bit hyper herself and my pal and I thought she was probably a snow bunny. It was at this point that the house music track, George Morel’s “Let’s take drugs” come on loudspeaker. As my friend put it, this song is wrong on so many levels. We were laughing and singing alone with George Bush on the “Drugs” refrain. Priceless.

I had to get back to my hotel room to take a late business call, but decided to one more session before bidding adieu to VV. At this point, the MILFy Thai lady has arrived and is making goo-goo eyes at me. I wait until she wanders off somewhere and go into the Kino. Of course, she shows up immediately. Basically, I could not extract myself from another session with her without resorting to be extremely impolite. And, as my pal says, some time you are best letting the women select you. Anyway, the BJ is better and we end up fucking for a while in the Kino. In the end, I get the point across that cumming in her mouth actually involves having my cock in her mouth. Not a bad session, but fucking a Thai woman near my age is probably something I can accomplish without actually paying for it. I decide maybe I can scare her off of me. There is some American porn playing on the movie screen featuring an Asian woman getting a rather vigorous ass pounding. I point this out to the MILFy Thai woman and ask if she likes. She proceeds to get some lube out of her purse and starts to lube up. I have to get across the point, no, no, next time.

At this point she is seriously puppy-dogging me as she sits with me at dinner as well. My pal comes up to the table amused at this turn of events. At this point, I have to leave to make my business call. And not a moment too soon.

I would probably return as I liked the facilities and the relaxed atmosphere, but clearly my radar needs some serious calibration for VV.