Cebu

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]As I was explaining to my friend back home, I've just returned back to Australia after being in Cebu- city for a month.

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I was last in Cebu city in February 2025, and even that the eight months difference [u]I can see the girls seem to be getting wider[/u]. That dream girl being slim; is not that easy to find. Just being honest and straight up. Once they get over 25 these days they seem to spread and to find a slim girl over 30 not that easy at all.[/QUOTE]We been singing this song about Phils for at least a decade. Sung to the tune of [B]"Jollibee O Jollibee"[/B]. In general, filipina have a short looks shelf life, often geared to dissipate starting middle 20's.

I'm thinking of giving Cebu a shot in the new year.

I fancy another coastal town as I'm currently in the Nang, Vietnam (this isn't for mongering motives). Certainly not Manila, which I wouldn't consider for a longer-term visit anyway; I can even avoid it by flying direct.

If it ticks the main boxes (again mongering would be secondary, especially if I could hook up a regular FWB or similar arrangement), I could extend the visa quite easily and cheaply, it appears. English is more widely spoken than VN, for a start. For accommodation possibilities I've joined some FB rental groups. Will sound them out nearer the dates I'm thinking to move.

Sidebar- Am I correct in believing that an onward (or return) ticket must be shown upon arrival? If so, how does that work if someone doesn't leave the country in the first month and gets a visa extension? Just forfeit the return leg on a budget airline?

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Sidebar- Am I correct in believing that an onward (or return) ticket must be shown upon arrival? If so, how does that work if someone doesn't leave the country in the first month and gets a visa extension? Just forfeit the return leg on a budget airline?[/QUOTE]Yes is correct, but don't waste any money. Buy an expensive separate return ticket that is refundable, and cancel it afterwards. Also have your lodging address handy and 2 days prior to traveling submit your trip in the eTravel app. You will be asked about all this by the airline before getting your boarding pass. Immigration may or may not ask.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]....

Lots of prospects, but the girlsl seem to have lots of issues; like obviously work issues, timing of Work, getting a babysitter.

.............[/QUOTE]I think that's universal anywhere in the world.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3037823]Yes is correct, but don't waste any money. Buy an expensive separate return ticket that is refundable, and cancel it afterwards. Also have your lodging address handy and 2 days prior to traveling submit your trip in the eTravel app. You will be asked about all this by the airline before getting your boarding pass. Immigration may or may not ask.[/QUOTE]Thanks, O&you. I remember filling out the etravel thing for my Manila trip. Immigration asked nothing that time, but who knows next time.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3037895]Thanks, O&you. I remember filling out the etravel thing for my Manila trip. Immigration asked nothing that time, but who knows next time.[/QUOTE]They don't ask because it pops up in their computer probably when they enter your info. But regardless of that, I fill it up when I exit also, even that everybody says is not necessary, to avoid any unforeseen complication, it takes few minutes. Maybe the exit portion which is clearly a part of each eTravel application, because it's there waiting to be filled up, is not implemented yet, until one day out of the blue, when you either cannot exit until you submit it, and may not have signal to do it, or they may say that you overstayed your visa because you didn't exited. It's PH, I try avoiding any unnecessary complications, don't order a big mac without the onions, take it out by yourself, it's all I can say, otherwise strange surprises may await for you.

[QUOTE=JackLad100;3037706]As I was explaining to my friend back home, I've just returned back to Australia after being in Cebu- city for a month.

I said to him dating the girls and over there is like trying to herd cats.

Lots of prospects, but the girls seem to have lots of issues; like obviously work issues, timing of Work, getting a babysitter.

Having enough money for transport and having their own phone which is working.

Taking care of other family members many responsibilities.

And to get one home run with a new girl.

It's achievable but yeah seriously a bit of frustration getting there.

When I think you just have to go without that's life in the Philippines.

In a third world country that's just the way it is.

[/QUOTE]Hi Jack,

Basically, you've summed up The Phils, and not just Cebu, pretty well.

However, I've found over time, once you know how to play the game, you can basically get what you want. It just takes a lot of return visits, learning experiences and to know where to look.

As many would know, for me, if she has a vagina and gets into the action, then it's a hit. I'm not too fussy, as long as she's not a dead root looking to take advantage of a foreigner for a short time. Aka bar girls.

No bar fines, expensive LD's etc, then I'll reward her for the long time / overnight action as you mention.

Rewards are generally feeding them, paying for their time and fares etc. And obviously building trust for return visits.

I currently have a hot thirty-something find as a contact and she's pretty damned good. Hooked up with her on Pina. She knows she won't get cash out of me when I'm back home, but she'll get rewarded as soon as I land back in The Phils.

There's always a lot of negatives thrown around these days about action in The Phils. However, I believe the majority has to do with the Korean influenced bar scene. I understand that might be the easy way to hook-up for first timers, but once you discover the alternatives, this country can be great.

Learn a little of the language, befriend some locals (security hotel guys are a must) and you'll have some unforgettable moments. Or those you may want to keep to yourself!

Just my experience _ Phil.

Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Yes it looks like it, but you have to be quick, because the offers are taken within minutes, and usually are a one time deal. Also you'll need to understand the slang, and what's going on, I tried myself, but unsuccessfully, only my GF understands it.

I gave up on it, but I had to have a FB account for hotel reservations in remote areas.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.

(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).

Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.

I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.

Is this what we're talking about?

Seems to be a bit of local action on here.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]My advice would be to not waste your time. Walker girls will typically want higher prices than an equivalent freelancer or regular online girl and performance will be average at best. From the guys' side, competition if fierce as it's not uncommon for each post to get 10's or even 100's of replies.

If you want to try FB, you are better off setting up a regular profile and set your location to Cebu. Add a few local girl as friends and the reach of FB will do the work for you. Friends of friends will be suggested or they will contact you directly as you pop up in their feed. Costs will be more realistic and you can view their unfiltered happy snaps.

Of course, the above assumes that your not bothered if the suggestions continue when your back home. Friends and family will receive suggestions to befriend 'special' friends that you made while away.

There is a shit tonne of action in Cebu from all the itinerant workers and students in town who are broke and without nosey friends and family watching their every move.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3038139]Generally, I don't do Facebook despite it still being huge in The Phils, with every second website link reverting to a FB page.
(Back at home it's just full of grumpy old women bitching and complaining about something going on in their surroundings).
Forgive me, but I've seen on the forum in the past references to 'walkers' pages on FB and have never really been able to work out what they're all about or how to find them.
I did however find this page recently [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/1817849875083156[/URL] for a local Cebu hook-up group.Is this what we're talking about?Seems to be a bit of local action on here._ Phil.[/QUOTE]Sort of tickling the tip of the iceberg. Like everything else there is a bit of a learning curve in the beginning. FB and the like is where I do 99% of all my farming and it has served me very well over the past decade or so.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3037904]They don't ask because it pops up in their computer probably when they enter your info. But regardless of that, I fill it up when I exit also, even that everybody says is not necessary, to avoid any unforeseen complication, it takes few minutes. Maybe the exit portion which is clearly a part of each eTravel application, because it's there waiting to be filled up, is not implemented yet, until one day out of the blue, when you either cannot exit until you submit it, and may not have signal to do it, or they may say that you overstayed your visa because you didn't exited. It's PH, I try avoiding any unnecessary complications, don't order a big mac without the onions, take it out by yourself, it's all I can say, otherwise strange surprises may await for you.[/QUOTE]I assume that the flight out of the country can be to anywhere? Doesn't have to be a return. ?

I noticed Philippine Airlines charges 30 US dollars to refund each leg of journey, even in Business class, in addition to the top tier option of Economy. While Cebu Pacific offers cancelation but 'refund' in their Go Flexi tier is to credit what they call your Travel Fund, to be used at a later date flying with them, but with no cancelation fees like PA.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;3038378]I assume that the flight out of the country can be to anywhere? Doesn't have to be a return. ?

I noticed Philippine Airlines charges 30 US dollars to refund each leg of journey, even in Business class, in addition to the top tier option of Economy. While Cebu Pacific offers cancelation but 'refund' in their Go Flexi tier is to credit what they call your Travel Fund, to be used at a later date flying with them, but with no cancelation fees like PA.[/QUOTE]Your thinking is correct. You need any outbound ticket, on any airline (not just CP or PAL), that departs 29 days (or less) after your entry date. There are airlines that offer more expensive but cancellable / refundable 1-way tickets. Just purchase such a ticket, and after you get to your condo / hotel, cancel it for a refund.

Then later if you want, you can visa-extend your stay past the initial 29 days for an additional 29 days at any BI office. The largest (and most crowded) such office is in Intramuros. A smaller and less-used BI office is on floor 5 of the Makati Circuit mall. You can also use 'fixer' travel agents to pick up your PP and documents, take them to a BI office, extend for you, and return your PP to you the same day, for an additional fee (often p1000-1500).

Does anyone have a current approximation of the 1-hour express fee (all-in)?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3038384]Your thinking is correct. You need any outbound ticket, on any airline (not just CP or PAL), that departs 29 days (or less) after your entry date. There are airlines that offer more expensive but cancellable / refundable 1-way tickets. Just purchase such a ticket, and after you get to your condo / hotel, cancel it for a refund.

Then later if you want, you can visa-extend your stay past the initial 29 days for an additional 29 days at any BI office. The largest (and most crowded) such office is in Intramuros. A smaller and less-used BI office is on floor 5 of the Makati Circuit mall. You can also use 'fixer' travel agents to pick up your PP and documents, take them to a BI office, extend for you, and return your PP to you the same day, for an additional fee (often p1000-1500).

Does anyone have a current approximation of the 1-hour express fee (all-in)?[/QUOTE]1/. Book return ticket Home / MNL*/ Home, returning under 59 days. Note your arrival day is day 1 not day 0.

2/. Book a disposable ticket with Top Onward Ticket or similar departing MNL in under 29 days. Destination doesn't matter and TOT will select it for you if you leave it blank. Cost is $16.

3/. At Check-in at your home airport declare that you are flying to MNL and departing PH as detailed in step 2 above. If you say you are departing in 59 days as in step 1, the airline have every right to refuse you boarding as you do not yet guaranteed a visa for 59 days.

4/. Upon arrival in MNL, collect bags and go direct to the Immigration One Stop Shop in T3 Level 3 near the Departure Check-ins. Note that they are only open normal business hours.

5/. Request a visa extension to 59 days. Charge was P3070 but may have risen recently. Have correct money as no change is given. The process takes maybe 10 minutes. Keep the receipt as proof of extension as your passport may or may ot be stamped.

6/. If you arrived out of hours or in another terminal, then you can process the visa extension the next day saying that you arrived yesterday and everything was closed. Note that technically the extension can only be issued at the airport on the day of arrival.

7/. TOT ticket is automatically cancelled at the end of the validity period you requested when you bought it. You don't have to do anything.

8/. Enjoying the Philippines for 58 days or less.

9/. Upon departure show Immigration the receipt from step 5 if your passport was not stamped.

10/. Post to ISG all your conquests in minute detail.

*I don't know if other international airports allow visa extensions upon arrival.

Enjoy. G.

I didn't extended it for a while now, because I always exited and reentered (more fun) but the last few times I did it in the eTravel app, no need to go to the office.