General Info

I'm getting ready to go to Ocho Rios JA and decided that I will help out those who find themselves in the same boat, by posting all that I find good and bad.

All trips have to start somewhere, so I started looking around here for answers to questions and received a lot of help. However, I will not be able to verify any of it until I get there the 1st week of May. From all that I have gathered, it's fairly easy to pick up sw's and regular women for sex in JA. I only wish that my wife wasn't going to be around. They usually hang around clubs or entrances to certain hotels and if all else fails, get a licensed cabbie and tel him what you want.

Off to a great start so far. Someone also mentioned AFF, so I decided to check it out. I paid for a 1 month subscription and for standard members to contact me. After sending out about 20 emails all inquiring about p4p, I received 6 serious and 4 you must be kidding responses. To my surprise, none of them had any clue what to charge or a sense of business. They all just seemed excited about going out on the town with you. Money was like a secondary issue. I didn't quite understand, it was as if I had died and gone to a land where all the p4p rules were inverted or something, kinda like the twilight zone. All I wanted was about 2 hours at the most of their time and I was willing to pay up $1., while they on the other hand wanted less but required a night on the town and sex over night. All but 1 told me what I wanted was a *****, and that i should find someone else. Go figure, a night on the town and sex all night cheaper than my 2 hour price!

Which brings us to 19y/o Shawna from AFF. After exchanging several emails, we agreed on $.7 for msog during the day and we're supposed to meet in Ochi, but after calling her on the phone I'm not so sure. She says this is her first time doing this. After calling, I have a feeling that the person I talked to isn't the person I exchanged emails with. Oh well such is life on the hunt. If we meet it will definitely be in a public place, after all I'm in a foreign country and nobody knows where I am because of what I'm doing...always play safe.

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Hey Champ Chump,

Already you're off to a good start in my eyes! You've read the board, taken notes and you're committed to giving us all an honest objective report of what you find! Great! :)

Too many guys on this board "sugar-coat" things. They think that if they had a bad time on a trip, that its some sort of negative "commentary" on them personally, their selections, their choices. So they "fudge" the truth and report back with a watered down version of their trip.

Report the good and the bad, it will help all of us. I would enjoy a detailed report on Occho Rios.....I'm sorry the "ball and chain" is going to be with you:(....but I'm glad it appears that you might have had some success with AFF, maybe!

cheers...........

Does anybody know if they are no-tells in Ochi? Preferably one that offers short stay, and if not, just one that's "user friendly".

Thanks in advance.

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[QUOTE=Champ Chump]Does anybody know if they are no-tells in Ochi? Preferably one that offers short stay, and if not, just one that's "user friendly".

Thanks in advance.

CC out[/QUOTE]Maybe a little late, but silver seas is ok.

Hey Champ Chump,

Did your trip to Ocho Rios ever come off? Any remarks, comments?

Anybody that has any up-to-date info on any place on this island would be appreciated. Someone needs to "breathe some life" back into this thread.
Its on life-support. :(

I just moved to Jamaica from North America and am learning all of the mongering ways. Contrary to what you read, it is easy to get laid in Jamaica. You can pretty much pick up most native girls if you are not from the island and sex will be a guarantee. They are super aggressive!

Montego Bay- There is a house that you can go to which they call a massage parlour, however it is moooooore than that. I don't know what it's called but it's easy to find. The best way I can describe to find it is this: There is a huge red back lit sign for Red Stripe, and if you look at the sign no matter where you are, you will see one single house underneath it. That's where you go. They had probably about 20 grils to pick from. Nude massages with hand jobs included for only $40 and you negotiate with the girl for more. You can bang them for about a $100 all in. Well worth checking out.

Ocho Rios. Go to a place called Shades just be careful with the local dudes.

I would also caution to be careful with who you pick up. Some of the chicks may be ghetto chicks and you won't know it, and behind the chick there is always a guy. Watch you don't get robbed.

The place is called Montego Bay Ocean View Massage Centre

19 Queens Drive
876.940.7417

[QUOTE=Mclovin97]I would also caution to be careful with who you pick up. Some of the chicks may be ghetto chicks and you won't know it, and behind the chick there is always a guy. Watch you don't get robbed.[/QUOTE]Was wondering where I can take my 'girlfriend' (been talking online,webcam for months). Somewhere near Kingston, but quiet and CHEAP enough to plunder her young booty! Are the 'All inclusive' hotels worth it..or should I go for the local hotels?

Lastly, crime against tourists is it dodgy. Doesn't really bother me, I lived 10yrs off Bankhead Hwy in Atlanta, Ga. I was only white dude for miles and never had 1 problem. But I would like to be aware of the scams.

Thanks! BTW I now reside in my home Country Scotland.

[QUOTE=Ford]Hey Champ Chump,

Did your trip to Ocho Rios ever come off? Any remarks, comments?

Anybody that has any up-to-date info on any place on this island would be appreciated. Someone needs to "breathe some life" back into this thread. Its on life-support.[/QUOTE]Well it's been almost a year since I've been there but there's a stroll right off of Main street in Ochi that gets poppin' after dark. I also must say that every strip club in Yard is basically a brotel not a strip club. The locals almost never tip for a dance and the girls will try to get you to fuck them in the "Daggerin' Rooms in the club.

You can also score with a local chick but they get so attached it would proboly be better to stick to p4p action.

Thought that I would post this part of "Fun and Sun's Guide to Montego Bay and Negril" in the general info thread since it applies across the island.

First the bad news:

Jamaica is a very dangerous place, it has one of the highest murder rates in the world, and it is also a very violent society. Jamaicans are very big on "respect", and being "disprespected" by someone means you need to fight them, often with a weapon. There are also loads of violent gangs that engage in drug dealing and defending their territory against each other. In addition, there are many people that are desperately poor and/or have drug or alcohol problems that engage in stealing and robbery.

Now the good news:

Most of the crime and violence is confided to the the Southern/Eastern part of the island, primarily Kingston and the surrounding areas. If you come there for mongering you will be on the opposite part of the island, the Northern/Western side, pretty much as far away as you can get from Kingston and armed gangs.

Also, the Jamaican government values tourists a lot. Not because the Jamaican government cares about tourists, but because tourism is very very important to the Jamaican economy, and without the taxes that are generated from tourism the corrupt politicians would not be able to steal as much as they are able to with tourism. Robberies, assaults, and murders of tourists are very very bad publicity.

Because of this, tourists are extremely well protected by the police. The police presence might not be very visible, but if a Jamaican attacks a tourist then, to quote what a local girl told me many years ago when I was nervous about a particular character "the police will take him and they will lock him away for very very long". The police will also severely beat locals that misbehave in the tourist areas (like being very drunk, grabbing people, etc). I might be a bit harsh, but their approach to the locals would probably result in UN sanctions if the locals and police were not of the same race.

The police do not care about tourists being harassed, but you will note that the hustlers will not physically touch you except for shaking your hand, and they will not hold on to you to keep you from walking away, and they will not stand in your way if you try to walk around them. (If you tell the police that you are being harassed by a hustler on the street then this is likely to result in him being "banned" from the Hip Strip, and not being allowed to go past Margaritaville. This is the reason that so many of them stand around over by Moods these days.)

The further away you go from the touristy areas, the less this protection applies. However, if you go on a go-go tour in the country surrounding either Mo'Bay or Negril then you are safe inside the venue, as well as immediately outside it, since if something happens to you then the police will make trouble for the owner, and no one wants to make trouble for the owner since he is either a "real bad man" or benefits from the protection of a "real bad man". ("Real bad man" is patois, am not going to explain what it is since it's pretty self explanatory, but "a read bad man no need tinted windows in his car cause he no need to hide from no one".)

But:

If you disrespect a Jamaican then all bets are of, since he might have to do something violent towards you so he doesn't lose all his respect on the street. Am not talking something minor here, you need to have done something pretty bad for this to happen, like throw a beer in someone's face type of incident.

There are a lot of people that are very disturbed from too much ganja and alcohol that you need to watch out for. The police keep these people away from the tourist areas, but the further away you go then the more dangerous it is. However, you need to stray from the tourist areas a bit to have the most fun, so you need to take some risks from time to time.

Jamaican society is very violent, so keep an eye open for incidents looking like they are about to flare up and move away from there slowly. If you see a fight then don't stop and watch it, even though it is tempting, keep moving and if you have to watch then stand quite a distance away. (If you do see a fight you will notice that the local people will stop and watch it, but not standing nearly as close as people would when watching a fight in the US or Europe.)

[QUOTE=Fun And Sun]...If you disrespect a Jamaican then all bets are of, since he might have to do something violent towards you so he doesn't lose all his respect on the street. Am not talking something minor here, you need to have done something pretty bad for this to happen, like throw a beer in someone's face type of incident...[/QUOTE]I love reading your posts on Jamaica.

Nevertheless, would a "gringo" sleeping with a Jamaican man's wife, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, mother, sister, or cousin be considered disrespectful?

-Helpmann :)

[QUOTE=Helpmann]I love reading your posts on Jamaica.

Nevertheless, would a "gringo" sleeping with a Jamaican man's wife, girlfriend, ex-girlfriend, mother, sister, or cousin be considered disrespectful?

-Helpmann :)[/QUOTE]

LOL!

Answering your question seriously, well, sort of seriously... :)

Wife - yes, obviously... although it is not uncommon for married Jamaican women to cheat on their husbands, and vice-versa... Just don't get caught if you go down this route...

Girlfriend - lots of pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, and even non-pros have Jamaican boyfriends. No problem if he knows, probably problems for her mainly if he finds out.

Ex-girlfriend - no.

Mother - while many of the girls there seem to have their first child in their late teens, you would need to have entered MILF territory before this becomes an issue, unless you tend to be beaten up by 10 year olds... :) Don't think it would be a problem even if she has a son in her late teens that walks in on you both.

Sister - no. Some drivers and people you meet will offer you their "sister", but it has only happened to me once that I have actually believed that I was banging someone's real sister since they had very similar face shape and the way they spoke to each other.

Cousin - no.

pussy fucking:

in terms of sex, jamaica is a top-notch destination for pussy fucking. many of the girls will fuck you the way you see black girls acting in porno movies, talking nasty, moving a lot, moaning... they can get into some positions that are almost straight out of the kama sutra, so get on and enjoy the ride! if a girl really likes you then you are in for an absolutely amazing treat, morning, day, and night.

this goes for all the categories of girls, pros, semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros. even if you are paying for it, most of the girls will have an expectation to enjoy the encounter, and don't be surprised to get scolded if you didn't make her cum and to be expected to perform again quickly or to rub or lick her pussy until she cums.

this is the experience that makes jamaica special as a mongering destination. sure, some asian girls can do some crazy stuff when they squeeze their pussies on your dick, but for a true, wild, and nasty pussy fuck then jamaica can't be beat.

however, if you make her feel cheap during the encounter then there's a high risk of a lazy fuck. she won't star fish, but won't do things like shake her ass when you bang her doggy style, wiggle her hips around in missionary, or do a near perfect split with her legs with one foot on each side of the bed with your dick in her pussy when she is riding you.

blowjobs:

you might get your hopes up when you notice that almost all the girls have their tongues pierced. pretty much all of them will suck, pros tend to do cbj, while semi-pros, quarter-pros, non-pros are more likely to do bbbj. they all do this pretty well, but tend to see it as a prelude to fucking rather than being happy to blow away until you cum. (at a massage parlour or a strip club you can ask for bbbj/cim as a service and get this naturally.) they don't really like cim and cof, but will do it if they like you. naturally if you lick her pussy first then she is more likely to blow you until you cum, but most of them tend to want to be fucked after you eat them out...

anal:

despite the very sweat bubble butts that almost all girls walk around with, they are not to keen on getting ass fucked. pros that have been around for a while might let you for a bit extra money, and if a semi-pro/quarter-pro/non-pro really likes you then she might as well, even up to giving you her anal cherry...

but, don't go to jamaica with the expectations of lots of anal providers like in south america. it can be found, but maybe 1 girl out of 5 will do it. usual system applies, the older she is, the more likely she is to do it. the uglier she is, the more likely she is to do it.

be a bit careful about asking girls for anal when you first meet them at a club if you are targetting one of the pro categories that evening. it is thought of as a batty boy activity rather than something that heterosexuals should get up to.

threesomes:

threesomes are definitely possible, but not standard. some girls will "freak" for you if you take two of them. (when they say "freak" that means eat each others pussies.) it's not a common treasure to be found though, and your hotel will not like it at all if you come with two girls, plus you really need to keep an eye on your things and them if you get lucky and find two hotties for this. don't let two girls sleep over unless you know and trust one of them at least.

also, be warned. i have suggested threesomes to girls that have been with me for a few days, and have been delighted when they have said yes to having their friend join, to end up with the girl getting majorily upset if i seem to enjoy having her friend riding me more than when she rides me, or if i cum while fucking her friend instead of her. the usual threesome politics pretty much.

advanced stuff:

i don't really do the things that are on the "bizarre" shelf in the porn shop, so i have never tried suggesting to a jamaican girl that i wear a [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132][CodeWord132][/url] during fucking, that i hog tie her and spank her, or similar. but, knowing how they are i don't think this is something that you should go there looking for.

If you don't believe that there is such a thing as a "semi-pro", then Jamaica will convince you...

Also, the quarter-pros and non-pros are one of the top attractions of this lovely island. Especially combined with the way that the Jamaican girls fuck...

Would love to get some feedback on this categorisation from other sex adventurers that frequent Jamaica.

Ok, here goes:

Category 0 - Hardened Pros. These are girls that have been fucking people for money for years, either as strippers, on the night-scene, or by being on the street. Steer as far away from them as possible, or if you indulge, go for BJs only...

Category 1 - Pros. These are girls that are either strippers at a go-go, that work in massage parlours, or are on the night time circuit every night that is possible. They are in the business of, to use the local term, "selling pussy". Nothing wrong with that... Some of them are actually very very pretty and fun to be with, but you will need to pay them in cash for them to spend time with you, and in the end they are only after one thing, money. On the night time scene you recognise them by them wearing nicer clothes, make up, shoes, etc than the semi-pros. Their job is to fuck tourists, and they will be the most expensive to take home for the night. Many of them live in nice houses and make a good living from what they do. However, get the number of hot ones and they are happy to do ST in the day with little fuzz. Girl friend experience is possible, but not really likely, but you can get a couple of pretty good fucks from one of the Pros if she likes you.

Category 2 - Semi-pros. These are girls that go to Pier 1, Jungle, etc once in a while when they need a bit of money or for a bit of adventure as well. Some of them are very very very pretty, many of them are so-so. They are more fun to be with than a pro (unless a pro likes you, in which case you could be in for some very advanced sex treats, but you still need to give her her daily cost no matter what...). They are more shy than the pros, and also more selective with who they go with, if they go with anyone at all that night. Not selective in terms of looks, but in terms of how you act. With a pro this drives up costs mainly/only, unless you are drunk or start acting weird. Semi-pros blend in closely with quarter-pros, but the distinction is that a semi-pro will expect to be paid in cash while a quarter-pro will expect gifts and might take offense if you start to negotiate a nightly rate with her. The semi-pros may or may not give the girl friend experience, some of them can actually be a bit shy since they are embarrased about being involved in P4P, and it is rare that a Jamaican girl is shy.

Category 3 - Quarter-pros. These girls can be found on the night time circuit in Negril, Jungle, etc but they are not hookers and do not think of themselves as hookers. These girls you can also (actually, mainly) be found down town Mo'Bay, Negril, etc. Some of them hang out on the night time circuit, but to have fun and maybe meet a tourist rather than with the sole purpose of making money. They are normal girls, they expect you to charm them, buy them dinner, be nice to them, and so on, and they will sleep with you on the first or second night, but... They expect something in return. Inflated cab fare, money for their baby, money for imaginary hospital bills, their kids school uniform, and so on... However, these girls will definitely give you the girl friend experience, and will think of themselves as your girlfriend while you are in Jamaica (and when you come back) but they will not be with you for free. If you stay with a quarter-pro for several days, be prepared for a lot of stories about them needing to buy books for school, their kids needing vaccinations, not having enough money for that months rent, and so on. You need to give her a bit of money, but don't open your wallet whenever she opens her mouth to ask you for money, you will find that the cost of the books comes down quickly if you say that it sounds expensive. The quarter-pros are probably a uniquely Jamaican thing. Quarter-pros are very nice to be with and are a lot of fun to take on little day time trips, but the constant stories get exhausting after a while and it can also gradually get too expensive. A lot of the waitresses on Mo'Bay's Hip Strip fall into this category. These girls are the girl friend experience guaranteed.

Category 4 - Non-pros. I am using non-pro in the strictest sense here. These girls will spend time with you since they like you and only for that purpose, and will not accept money from you, or demand gifts from you. Sure, as all girlfriends anywhere across the world they love to be treated nice, but they will pay their own cab fare when they go home from your place, they will treat you to a meal once in a while, and they will give you some of the best sex that you will ever experience. These girls have normal jobs (not bull shit jobs like "doing hair" that is the cover story of a lot of pros and semi-pros) but jobs that they need to go to in the morning and that demand some sort of skill. Finding a real non-pro is a real treasure, but believe it or not, it is not difficult. However, the main draw back of a non-pro, she needs to go to work in the day time and can't move into your hotel room. (But... on your second trip, she will ditch work to be with you, but then you are actually in a serious relationship with her if you have flown back to see her again...) A non-pro is a girl friend, so naturally she will give you the girl friend experience.

Some musings on the above categories:

If you really like a pro girl, then keep her for a few days, just don't get emotionally attached... Many of them are very very pretty, that is why they have left the countryside for Mo'Bay and Negril to do what they do to make money from their looks. If they like you then they can fuck you like crazy, plus they might be up for including their "sister" (not their real sister, the girl that they live with) in threesomes.

Semi-pros are probably the cheapest option since they are amazed at making about USD 50 from just spending the night with you. Pros know what tourists are prepared to pay, and you need to stand your ground on what you will pay her. Am shouting this: DO NOT PAY A PRO MORE THAN USD 100 FOR ALL NIGHT! That is already a "tourist price", but guess what, the pros only fuck tourists, so tourist price applies...

Quarter-pros can quickly get expensive and over time can actually be the most expensive option. If you get a quarter-pro, get one that is almost a non-pro. Shouting this: DITCH HER IF SHE ASKS YOU TO LEND HER MONEY! If she does this, she is trying to scam you.

It is not uncommon for a girl in any category above to take you home to meet her mom and her kids if you spend a few days with her. (They all seem to have their first kid by age 16, so invariably most of them have kids that their mothers raise...) This is a sign of affection from her, but not as big a sign of affection as it would be in the US/Europe. For some of them, the reason that they take you with them is that so you will pay the cab fare and so that no other girl takes you over while she heads home...

Most importantly, remember that it is your trip. If you are bored with your girl, then move on. Let her down gently, do a normal "break up" like you would do with a girlfriend back home, but don't let a clingy girl that has started to bore you ruin your trip.

Treat all the girls with respect, but especially non-pro girls.

Always pay after, never in advance.

Even if a girl has kids that she needs to go home to, she will tell you that she is happy to stay at yours until you wake up and fuck twice or whatever so that you will go with her. Therefore above.

Do not "rip-off" a girl when it becomes time to pay. If she has done what you agreed, in terms of time and activities, then you need to pay her the full amount and if you are feeling nice maybe a small tip for "taxi". If she leaves early then you can deduct a little bit, but more like 20% than 50%. Do not throw her out of your room without paying in the morning. Yes, security will take her of the premises, but you can be in a very very dangerous situation this way. (And, Jamaica is not Thailand were all that will happen is that some motorcycle drivers will punch you a bit. This can seriously get you shot since treating a girl that way is "no respect".)