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Some "Bulgarian" info for those travelling to Northern Greece (Thessaloniki will be one of the Olympic centers)
There are cheaply priced buses from the city going to Sandanski, for the casinos, etc
But for the non-conventional tourist:
"...The cities of Blagoevrad, Sandanski, and Petric in southern Bulgaria are commonly known as the Bulgarian “golden triangle” because they are the largest transit points in trafficking of women from Eastern Europe to the southern Balkans and from there, into Western Europe. In Blagoevrad and Sandanski exist as the primary marketplaces, with their fine hotels and proximity to the Greek border, for women to be bought and sold. “Buyers tend to be Albanian and Greek gansters, who choose, sample and place orders. The smugglers, locals with an excellent knowledge of the routes across the Greek-Bulgarian border, undertake to transfer the women to Greece of FYROM for 500 to 1,000 marks a head.”..."
All that means that you'll find all kinds of nationalities there - not just Bulgarian, but also ex-USSR, Romanian, etc.
The Bulgarians can get temporary Shengen visas nowdays, but the rest don't.
A friend recently visited shitty Blagoevgrad for business, 2 hours from the Greek border - George Soros built a private "American University" there, with about a 1000 students, mostly females.
Maybe there is some quality p***y to be found in the middle of nowhere?
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Hi friends,
I am interested in finding Asian girls in Athens - Piraeus.
If someone has any information please write.
Thanks and always make love!
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Hi everyone,
I am going to be spending 2 weeks or so in Piraeus shortly and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions? I looked though these reports but did not really find anything specific about Piraeus area. I think incall or outcall would be OK - I am staying in a hotel near the dockyard gates (not sure which gate) Hotel Posidonio.
Thanks for your help
Rich
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Some info about Athens:
Just behind the old municipality building of Athens there is a hotel named Vasillikon . This place used to be one of the hot travesty spots. Now with all the changes and clean up procedures in this hotel some one can find a lot of young African girls. You may check but please be very careful as this is one of the most dangerous areas of Athens especially late at night
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Athens Syngrou Avenue.
This is the area known as the hot spot of travesties.
Recently on the right side ( in the way to the coast ) I saw 4 girls searching discretely for customers.
All of them are Albanians, they look relatively young 18-22, dressed like ordinary girls waiting for a taxi or the bus.
Two of them can be spoted just before the first right exit and the or out side of the ING building. These two are the most good looking ones The other two can be found further down between exits 2 and 3. The going rate is 50 Euros in the car or 60 in a near by hotel plus hotel charges.
All of them they have pimps supervising discretely the transactions. The first time they insist on doing the did in the car.Becoming a regular they start going to the hotel.The start their work early 20,00-21,00 and they are gone by midnight . It's the time that the travesties start their shift.
Grestal
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Well let me sumarise the situation of Athens. We, the locals know that the good days are gone. The Athens of sin can be ranked as follows:
Brothels: Can be found in a relatively wide area close to the center of Athens (meaning Omonia square)
Omonia is the starting point of Piraeus Avenue, One of the roads leading to Piraeus Harbur, On the small streets, on the right side some one can find more than 30 brothels, just look for the red or white light. Making a clock wise turn towards the railway station some one can find an other 100 brothels or so between the streets of Liosion, Aharnon, Aristotelous. All these roads start more or less from Omonia but they are on the other direction.
There are already adequate posts describing prices / types of ladies / shifts. Personally speaking not my type of entertainment.
New fashion in the Greek brothels is Brothels with Non Operated Transexuals
When the crack down of massage parlors few luxury brothels appeared.
There are 10 – 15 around Athens. From what I know some are in Kallithea, some in Neos Kosmos and some in Kypseli. The difference there is that the places are more clean more decent, better looking girls (always ONLY ONE per shift) but more expensive 50 Euros. The only way to locate them is from the news papers mainly ETHNOS.
Call services. It seems that the last years the advertisements are getting less. 5 years ago in the same news paper some one was able to choose out of 5 pages. Today is more or less 2 pages. Still there are a lot of good thinks to discover. The going rate is starting from 80 and goes up to 150 depending on the agency / girl / services.
The frequent visitors may always ask discretely at the reception or the bell boy or a barman of their hotel for such kind of Services. If you intent to stay at Hilton, Marriott, Intercontinental, Divani Caravel & Holliday In just keep your eyes open and you will see what I mean. Athens News might be a good start for the non Greek speaking fellows but keep in mind that the selection is very limited.
Well kept secrets:
There are two or three villas, each with 6- 8 very good looking girls, in the southern parts of Athens that still offer their services to a very limited amount of selective members.
The other well kept secret is a series of telephone numbers of Girls that managed to stay in Greece and continue to work with a limited number of reliable and trustworthy customers.
The most interesting is that there is a kind of agency that can supply, Photo Models, TV personas, Dancers and Singers for a certain Fee. Lowest for a lets say a “rising photo model “ is 1000-1500 Euro and for a famous TV persona 3000 to 5000 Euros.
You all understand that the last ones are just for very very few people in Greece, But they exist and It’s not BS.
Areas with SW:
At nights Kolonaki area might have some pleasant surprises. Taking Skoufa street, at the level of law school some one can find several SW. There are some real diamonds there but you need a lot of luck to find them and to take them first. The rest are mostly drug addicted or older ladies plus 2-3 TV. The going rate starts from 30 up to 150.
The Hotels behind the municipality building of Athens (Athinas Avenue) is a pure hit or miss. Very rare to get something decent.
In Kalamaki area / Posidonos avenue there are occasionally few SW
Syngrou Avenue: Few girls – read previous report – and the A class TV
Kavalas Ave: Few girls / low class low appearance but cheap with 30 Euro some one can get BBBJCTM or All wholes with protection. Also few TV B & C Class.
Strip Show Clubs:
The Best are located in Syngrou Avenue (That’s why we call it the Sin Avenue)
Most Popular ones are:
Baby O (Located on the right hand side just after Pantio University) Always Packed with a lot of good looking dancers)
Lido (Just opossite) Rumors are saying that there were additional services in the past BJ for 90 E in a small back room.
Afrodite (Located in the same side with Lido)
Sirocco (same side 1. km further down) Reopened recently not so croudy yet but with a lot good spices
Anatoli (just opossite) Well I never understood why this place is always packed.
Erotica (Aharnon Avenue)
Million Dollars (3rd of September avenue) More that 30 girls an old cinema but I cannot stand the continuous queue of girls rotation around my table asking me once every second minute “ Dance / “
Athens Queens In Kavalas avenue. Huge place lots of rumors that some managed to get girls for further action after the end of the show
Mousses In Kallithea – Possidonos Avenue also a good place with lots of rumors
Rasputin In Kiffisia on the side of the highway. A lot of experts rank it as one of the best.
The storry behind the Strip clubs is that yes some one might get a girl for further actions but. It needs to become a regular, It needs to invest a lot in drinks and Dances and last you should not look hungry. Personally speaking In all these years I managed to meet just one girl.
There are numerous night clubs with show or bars with Girls. All those places might be a rip of or you might score faster. Keep Low profile.
Being a frequent traveler my self, I have just one recommendation for the readers of this forum traveling to Greece.
Stay in upper class Hotels
If you cannot read Greek ask & tip discretely some one from your Hotel for some company. Buy two hours and enjoy.
If a striptase show is a must for you, then go there with company spend as much as you wish enjoy the show, some private dances and that’s it.
Stay away from brothels. These are places for Soldiers, Foreign workers and very low class people.
The rest is up to you.
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In my previous report I forgot our Harbur Piraeus .There is an area called Trouba . It's just one street behind the main harbur road. The place used to be notorius . Now it's just a dosen of Cabaret style night clubs . All of them is a pure rip off . Do not even think of Going there .
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Thanks, Grestal, for your detailed and informative survey of the Athenian Sex-Landscape. You paint a fairly dark and unispiring picture of the general scene in Athina. Tell me, in your opinion, do you think things will pick up for the better as the Olympic Games approach? What do you think: Will we see kalitera pragmata stin Athina sto Kalokairi?
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My Friend Ortos,
The expression uninspiring is a very “soft” one. Some times that I am doing the comparison between know and just 4 years ago, I really cry because of today’s situation. The last ten years I was working in the southern parts of Athens. Just in that specific area there used to be more than 15 massage parlors. Each one had a line up of 6-10 girls, and the going rate used to be from 30 to 45 Euros. Some of them were equipped with steam baths etc. All of the with the ability to take shower before and after the action. In the back side of the old airport it used to be a hotel and since 11 in the morning there were more than 15 really sexy and attractive girls present.
Needless to describe the situation with the SW in Kolonaki.
For me It was the best stress relief during or after a hectic day at work. And now what / Just the call services. I am telling you that all these kinds of services have been dramatically down grated, always compared with the previous years. When I first found Atas forum, I was laughing with the Americans that they were paying a fortune for a hand job. Now It seems to me that we will end up exactly like they do. An other example is that just few months ago I used to have a similar forum where we exchanged information for this kind of services. You know what was the outcome. I received a message from the host / police advising me that I have to stop these kind of activities as it was consider promotion of prostitution.
Still I consider my self very lucky compared with the majority of Greek mongers. I am traveling quite frequently thus I have the opportunity to go for example to Germany, for me the perfect sex paradise, and to recharge my batteries …
As long as it concerns the situation during summer and the Olympic Games. As far as I know there is already an invasion of German and Dutch girls. From what I heard there is already a tendency to pump up prices with the typical red-light zone service: S&F for 50 and out of the door in 5 minutes. Sorry not my cup of tea. These girls are just going to replace the existing ones in brothels and they will simply work in 3 instead of 2 shifts. A theory, It was actually a law modification, that groups of sex providers will or can be accommodated in various hotels in order to serve the increased number of visitors has been rejected no only by the authorities but also from the church people.
Well what is your opinion know?
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Now my opinion is that Athens is a waste of time and Euro. I will overfly for Frankfurt and the FKKs, or, closer to home, across tin prasinin grammin stin Lefkoshia...
Ortos
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WARNING !!!
Had this not so pleasant experience in Athens so thought I'd share it with everyone:
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A couple of months ago, I was in Athens on business - Had nothing to do so went down to Plaka for dinner. A well dressed local man approached me and said hello. Now, I'm a well seasoned traveller and fairly cautious when talking to strangers so just started with chit chat about nothing. He mentioned that he had just come back from Dubai and was on his way home to one of the Greek isles and was thinking about going out to have some fun.
Seeing how I had nothing to do and that what this guy had said to me about Dubai was pretty much all correct (I lived there for 6 months), I thought he was legit.
So we walk to this strip joint (sorry but can't remember the name) across from the Intercontinental hotel. In we go and immediately these 2 girls come up and sit with us. We order the drinks and the girls order small splits of champagne - Aha ! at this point, I thought, ok, here's the scam - probably 50 to 100 Euros for the champagne ! I thought what the heck, who cares, you only live once so I said ok since the other guy was also agreable to it.
Half an hour later, another split of champagne, and I thought - wait a minute here... something smells... So I ask for the price... Anyways, to cut a long story short, I walked out of there 560 Euros less than when I walked in (the other guy paid for mine and his own drinks and those of his girl). The next day, I recounted the story to my hotel concierge and he said I was lucky - He's heard of guests getting taken for 2,000 Euros !
The way I figure it, the guy is obviously on commission with the bar and I got duped like a total novice !
So, guys, BE CAREFUL talking to strangers in a strange land !
GC
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Global Citizen,
With out having the intention to defend any club establishment, I think you are wrong by just posting a message like that, blaming other people or unknown establishments than your self. You say that you are a well-travelled person and by just being a member in this forum I can assume that the experience you describe was not your first one in a strip club.
In all clubs there is a policy the waiters always advise the customers for the cost of "ladies drink" and usually, especially if they don’t know the customer they ask the payment upon delivering the drinks.
The area you describe in terms of strip clubs is very safe and very well controlled by the police in order to avoid similar incidents.
There are establishments that are very expensive and others less expensive. It’s up to you and to all of us how much we are going to spend.
I think it is elementary Prior starting the purchase of expensive ladies drinks to ask for the cost.
I am visiting these places very frequently the last decade and I always spend what I want to spend.
Next time you will be in Greece and you will be faced with a similar situation, you should ask for a receipt, they are obliged, and you may ask the receipt to be stamped plus the name of the person who is responsible. By asking you to pay for overpriced drinks and by not providing you with an official receipt they are violating a series of tax laws, which will lead the establishment to hefty penalties and/or cancellation of their licence.
This is what I do.
If I don’t like the place, I am out in 5 minutes. Some places they charge entrance 15-20Euro that is good for one drink. If I am alone I say to the doorman I want to check if my friends are in. If the place is ok I order my drink and pay directly to the waiter, If the place is not Ok I am just saying buy-buy with 20 Euros alive in my pocket to be spend wherever I want.
If I like the place and the girl, I always ask the waiter for the costs (drinks, piccolo, champagne)
If you are unable to count the ladies drinks, you may ask the waiter to leave the empty glasses in your table.
Some times they try to overcharge me when they though I was too drank, I never argued with them, but I asked an official receipt. And guess what, after that the bill was corrected and discounted.
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Only a few weeks ago I had a GREAT experience in Athens. I went to this house I found in some paper ad, which is found at the corner of Pipinou and Aristomenous St.
It was by far the best experience I've had in a house in Athens in a long time. The girl is a sexbomb blonde from Russia (according to her) called Olga. She has an amazing body, I would definitely rate at least 9.5/10! She's around 1m70 and the whole experience was very relaxed in a beatiful house with a very clean room and an imposing bed with greek marble columns at four corners. It cost me 50 Euros for a half hour.
How to find it (I had some trouble myself):
Take the metro to "Victoria". As you exit there is a square (Victoria sq.) across the street. Take the Aristotelous street to the right as you face the square and move on for several streets until you find "Pipinou" str. Then turn left and walk Pipinou street for 500m or so until you find "Aristomenous" str. The house is to be found to your right on "Aristomenous" str. with the usual white light above the door.
Hope you enjoy it too! I know I'll go there again next time I visit Athens.
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A small update for an upper class brothel of Athens. The one in subject is located in the right side of the street just across from Marriott hotel in Syngrou Avenue. I went there few days ago to see what is new “under the sun”. First of the place in luxurious, very clean and tidy. The lady present the time of my visit was a 25 years old, black hear, with really big boobs from Moldavia. The going rate was 70 for SM and 50 for normal service. Attracted by the big boobs and the environment I opted for the normal service, as I am not into SM. I was advised to go a flight a stairs up and “get ready” in one of the two available rooms. I checked both of the them and I so nothing for SM games. In any case in few minutes my choice entered the room, undressed from her black underwear and she proceeded with a moderate covered BJ. We changed 3 positions till I came. Mechanical performance. Overall experience: nothing to write home about. But still a good choice for the ones either staying in the two major Hotels across the street or for the ones leaving in the area.
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Hello Everybody,
I am following this forum for more than 8 months and am very pleased with the information I had so far.
I will be visiting Athens during next month and will much appreciate any recommendation for action in this city.
I am more likely to enjoy meeting mid-age women (over 35s) in some special bars-restaurants where people meet. This is much usual in cities like Madrid, Sevilla or Milan. Is there any meeting bars like this in Athens.
Secondly I am interested in meeting some semi-pros but I donot know if this is happenning in Athens. If so where?
Further from the reports I understand that the brothels arenot highly recommended. How about in-call girls? Are there any? If yes, where is the place to find them. My preference is mainly to sit at a bar and meet a woman spontenaously but is this a dream in Athens?
Any help especially from locals will be muc much appreciated with thanks. Please don't hesitate to pm me if necesarry.