Ivory Coast

Re Frank Africa's report.

Yes, what Frank says about money expections in Africa is very much true. Take it from me as an African who lives in the USA, that is what we have to go through with our African families. And saying you don't have money to send to them does not do. You will never be believed. We are supposed to be rich making lots of money.

Hello everyone!

Finally, I am flying to IC to meet my prety girl in the middle of February. I have booked Golf Hotel in Abidjan. Does anybody know is it a good choice? Another problem - she wants to introduce me to her parents. I suspect that I should bring some sort of presents for them. Am I right? Any suggestions, what should I buy for them? As far as I know, she is from an ordinary family.

Thanks,

Canuck

Canuck

Good luck to you on this trip. I spent 21 years living in African countries and have seen people's behavior around money, power, foreigners. Be very careful with how you establish the relationship with her family. Everyone will be extra nice and almost unreal to you on this trip as they will see a large $ sign above your head. With poverty as it is in Africa that is understandable. Otherwise African babes are hot and very loving, and know how to treat their man as a king.

Cheers,

Bahama

Thanks Bahama!

I really appreciate your suggestions. I am already counting days before my jorney begins. Will post a report on my return.

Cheers,

Canuck

Regarding Ivory Coast, I know very well the situation there, because I’ve been there many times and married an Ivorian lady.

The reports and opinions of Getopardo and others are correct.

Now the political situation there is DANGEROUS, especially for whites, and I must suggest not to go. Go to Ghana or Gambia, instead.

Bur till two years ago it was a heaven. Lovely ladies, non pros, that wanted to do everything to please you.

There are some important thing to consider:

First: you must speak a little French. Girls speaking English are really rare.

Second: Abidjan is a big town, you will need somebody to escort you, because the taxi drivers do not know the town, and street names and addresses are unknown.

Third: some places are unsafe for whites, especially Abobo and Treichville. Never go there in the evening.

The best solution can be: go to hunt in a big shopping center, the one where Europeans and upper class Ivorians go (like Hayat or Prima) and start strolling around and look at the girls. In a short time some semi-pro will approach you and start talking.

Invite her to lunch or dinner, and ALL hotels are girl-friendly.
You age does not matter, and maybe your looks: an ex-girlfriend told me that the cannot easily understand the real age of a white. She was thinking I was ten tears younger. All you need is to be kind, polite ad correct.

If you have the time, don’t stay in Abidjan but go with her to Grand-Bassam (with a taxy, the fare can be 10.000 FCFA, about 15 Euros) and look for an hotel on the beach in the “Quartier France”.

Grand-Bassam is a lovely place, and a week-end for two will cost you about 70 Euros, including room and meals (exceptional food).
As for the girl, you should never give her more than 30.000 FCFA, and this must be clearly not a payment for her services, but some money for covering the costs of transport and for the cost of her mobile phone. She is not a pro, she's yur girl-friend ("copine").
And never, never give your phone number or your real address to a girl: she will find you in Europe or in the States and ask for money for some medical expenses, or for a funeral, or for the school of her little brother.

If you are interested in a real pro, you can find street walkers in Cocody or in Zone 4 (there is a route called “la rue des serpents”: “snake’s street” because of the whistles the girls are making to passers-by), or in some night clubs, but if you go for dinner in a restaurant (“maquis”, as they are called), try to be kind with the waitress. Sometimes you’ll be really rewarded.
There is an Internet site : www.abidjan.net. Look in the “rencontres” section (on top left of the home page)and click on “Elle pour Lui”. It is fill of girls looking for marriage, but some are clearly of girls offering service. But, as I told before, why look for a pro when the others are free.

In any case, use a condom: a doctor from Red Cross told me that Aids statistics in Africa are inflated because the Elisa test for HIV gives positive results even if you had malaria, but it is really a danger, like all others STD.

And enjoy your stay.

On my next report I will post some photos. I need to cover the faces of the girls.

Good report by Ciccio, but I would like to re-emphasize a point he made in passing at the end:

Yes, the HIV-positive statistics might be inflated a bit, but they are real none-the-less and it's just not worth it to take any risks. Even if it is published somewhere that "20% of the girls are HIV-positive" and the real number is only 2%, that's still way too big a risk to take.

Always use a condom!

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P.S. Ciccio's idea of going to Grand-Bassam for a weekend is a good one. I lived in Abidjan for several months back in the 1980s and loved going there. Nice beach, very relaxing, and fascinating old crumbling colonial-era buildings.

Lots of decent hotels right on or near the beach, some a bit pricey (La Taverne Bassamoise, Hotel La Madrague, Auberge le Treich-Laplene), others less pricey (Hotel la Paillote, Chez Loulou, Auberge de la Plage). Try a meal at Maquis Le Quai, Maquis Le Balafon or Maquis Loulou.

This is the first photo of one of my girlfriends in Ivory Coast.

She is a semi-pro, living in Abidjan and was the “copine” (GF) of a colleague of mine (he met her at a restaurant, were she was warking as a waiter).

He asked her to carry a girlfriend for me, for the week-end, a friend “tres gentille” (very gentle) as they say.

She arrived with a friend, that was stunning. Sorry, but no photos of her.

We remained at Grand-Bassam (see my previous report) for three days, and her friend was stunning in bed. Really. Never went to the beach, but all time in the room.

She was 22, had a small child, and her trouble was that her tits were a little falling down, because she had feed her son. She was dreaming of coming in Europe for having a breast surgery.

She left after three days with a little money for the taxi and said that she will meet me the day after in Abidjan: I’ll never met her again, and this is normal in Africa: never on time.

My friend had a big discussion with his GF (she was giving him trouble because she was jealous and was looking for him all the time at the hotel in Abidjan, where he was staying with another girl: this may be a problem with these girls: never let the know exactly where you live) and she too left the hotel.

I returned in Europe. After some months I was back in Ivory coast and called my friend’s ex-girlfriend, looking for a rendez-vous with her friend, and she told me that she was not there, that her mobile phone was not working, and a lot of other stories, so I said: come with me to Grand-Bassam for the week-end.

If the first one was great in bed, this was exceptional. She was an athlete, and was capable of very weird things.

She was intelligent, even if she had no schooling, and she was poor, and I discovered that each time we went to a restaurant, she asked for the food that we did no eat and carried it home, for a girl that was living with her.

Once we had a rendez-vous for some hours in an hotel, but she had her menstruations, and so she proposed to go to the cinema. Well, she ended up giving me a BJ in the dark.

Once she said: you Europeans living in Africa need a fixed relationship with a girl, or you’ll become sad, and want to go back home, and when you’re home you want to return here.

I think this is true.

Well, with her I made a mistake: I gave her my home address and telephone, and she began calling and writing letters asking for money, for a lot of different reasons.

The first times I sent something, but I ended up saying NO.

I have non more news of her.

P.S. According to the Forum rules, I do not write the names of the girls. Jackson says that Ivory coast is an Islamic nation. I do not think so, but I’m a newbie here, and I obey.

Another photo of the "athlete in bed". She is a KRU from western Ivory Coast, near Liberia.

There are many ethnic groups there, and it is very important to try to understand the differences.

The third photo. We are at the Hotel La Paillote, at Grand-Bassam. It needs some maintenance, the air conditioner are very noisy, but the service is good and the plage is wonderful.

oberon

And this is a more explicit photo of a really non-pro.

She was the cousin of a friend's "copine" and I got a rendez-vous, that became a longer relationship.

I treated her like the lady she really is (restaurants, weekends at the beach, etc) and I was really rewarded.

She worked as a secretary, and her salary was about 45 Euros/month.

What Bahama 7 says is true: the ladies in Africa know how to treat their man like a king.

Thanks Ciccio for the excellent pictures, looking forward to more your last posting.

Thanks

Good report Ciccio.

Here some additionnal info:

Before the civil war, the best place to find semi-pro's where the disco's Cabane Bambou and Canne à Sucre in Treichville. This is where the expats headed for especially during the holydays when their wifes returned earlier in France. But since then, I can not tell you if it is safe anymore to go.

Anyway, there are a lot of SW in front of the main hotels , especially Hotel Ivoire. Sometimes, the SW manage even to enter inside the hotel and knock on your room's door "c'est l'amour qui frappe à la porte!".

In fact, as a white lonely foreigner in Abidjan, your problem is not to find the action than to get ridd of the numerous semi-pros that come to hassle you day and night.

As an expat, the real challenge is to find another flavour when you get bored of chocolate. You may sometimes find caramel in the two disco's mentionned before. In my time, there was even a bordello with only vanilla (expensive) : Villa d'Este in Bietry. I don't know if it's still existing.

There are also Moroccan girls working in private appartments, but only for the Lebanese community. I remember such an appartment in Marcory, but you need a real good Lebanese friend to introduce you in this underground action.

Routard,

Cabane de Bambou, Moulin à Huile, Anaconda, Iroko, Iguane ... You revive such unforgettable memories I feel like rushing to my travel agent's to book the next flight for Abidjan.

It would be no use, of course, I have a strong feeling that Abidjan will never return anywhere near to its former sinnful splendor. In fact, I don't even inquire about the present situation because I'm too much aware that the answer cannot be good.

The bottom line is that one should always avail oneself of a good destination while it lasts.

xxl

I was visiting last year and ended up in Accra instead. I did a tremendous amount of research and decieded it would be a more rewardring experience for me in Accra instead of Abidjan.
These phone numbers were current as of last september and I have seen All of the photos that go with them.
Let me aassure you guys that these are all above average women, I no longer have their photos.
Enjoy!
Sonia-07 44 12 39

Aicha-07 75 82 09

Jose-059 61 604

Carmelle-07 50 75 38

Akissi Souami-21 28 31 27

Mariame-hassane-07 77 08 71 or oumar-05 75 81 81

Hannah-05 89 71 77

Christiane-21 24 64 51

Adet-23 45 52 98

Fofana-07 30 68 37 &

05 74 38 51

Charlotte-20 37 35 77

Cell- 07 72 76 24

Solange-073 022 30

Clarisse-07 36 89 66

Marie Jeane-07 45 45 07

Raissa-07 44 57 20

Christine Gaba-07 79 43 23 or 07 02 73 30

Armelle & Patricia-07 91 93 14 & 05 57 66 38

Gisele-07 36 43 93

Flore-05 57 25 00

Larissa-05 97 56 87

Marie-France-05 03 80 03

Estelle-05 79 42 31

Helene-05 73 47 49

Armelle-07 91 93 14

Patricia-05 57 66 38

Delphine-07 94 51 48

Paulina-056 26 845

Caroline-24 39 19 96&07 41 46 40

Edith-22 41 50 00

After a long time I returned to Ivory Coast. Gentlemen, don’t go there.

For the first time, in the long years I’m travelling to Africa, I felt HAPPY when I boarded the plane to return in Europe.

The situation there is terrible: there are security threats and health threats.
Security threats: about 2000 prisoners have escaped Abidjan’s prison, and are in town, looking for the money, or even the life, of the first European they meet.
It is dangerous even to descend from the taxi: you have to pay when the car is still running, before it stops, or somebody on the road will see your money and will try to take it.

The police, the army and some new pro-government militias are looking for bribes, and they will stop your taxi or your car asking for money.

They say it is not a bribe, but money to help the government in their war against the rebels.

I felt in danger even when I was traveling with my Ivorian wife’s brothers.
They didn’t allow me to travel outside Abidjan.

Health threats: there are power black-outs and water shortages, and the hygienic situation is worsening day after day.

People has no money to buy medicines, and a typhoid fewer epidemic is running in the poorest districts.

Some cases of meningitis have been reported, and the hospital cannot cope with this emergency.

A girlfriend of mine died for this, last week.

Well, if you have the courage for trying, our hobby has never been easier, because girls are lacking money, and it is even easier than before to pick-up.

But you must be very cautious: the dangers have increased too.

A little story: one night I phoned an old girlfriend, and had a “rendez-vous” at a “maquis” for dinner and after we headed to an hotel for the night.

At the restaurant some policemen checked the ID of everybody.

My girlfriend did not have hers. I offered a beer to the policeman and said that the ID was at the hotel. He asked for a little bribe (a beer for his colleagues in the car) and I obliged. At two o’clock in the night the doormen arrived with the same policeman and other two, and they looked at everything in the room, found condoms in my luggage, began to question the girl about her work, accuse her of being a prostitute, found my digital camera, looked at the photos inside, found some explicit photos of the girl, and threatened of jailing me for being a pornographic producer…. They were not interested in the girl’s ID.

I was really scared, but eventually I told them that I was a good friend of a police chief (that is true) and showed them my Ivorian ID , that says that I’ve married an Ivorian lady, and inside the ID there was a 10.000 FCFA bill, and I was able to settle the story.

I know that AlistedMale’s report was read in Ivory Coast: one lazy afternoon I tried to call some of the number he reports, and most of they did not work, but I was successful with one, and the girl said me that a lot of people has harassed her after “her number was on Internet”. This is a country in trouble: I don’t want to increase it, so I will not write any kind of personal info about the girls.

Well, let see some photos of the girl without ID.