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[QUOTE=Thampi62;2832802]Any ladies in Sharks willing to share room for less than 100/30 and 150/60?[/QUOTE]If you will be ok with covers BJ and basic fuck absolutely you could get 50/30. If you want BBBJ it's unlikely you will find it with a top tier girl. It was a year ago but I was able to negotiate a 100/30 w CIM with a top tier girl and 50/30 with a heavier girl who was otherwise pretty. It def takes work and maybe some trade offs for BBBJ at that price. If you are ok fully covered I am sure you can get it.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2832782]You sir are the kind of person who would benefit most from something like SugarBabes. FKKs seem like places that you should actually avoid as they can be vicious mine fields, the larger ones anyway. Any weaknesses are quickly sniffed out and exploited. If not SugarBabes, may I suggest some of the smaller club far away from the Frankfurt area. Rheingold, Venus, Finca, Living Room, Golden Gate, and Babylon. Those are the places that you will more likely find the services and possibly the atmosphere that I suspect suits your needs. Sharks, Oase, Palace, Artemis, Mainhattan, Samya, Penelope, clubs in Dusseldorf city, definitely stay away from them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestions. I don't really have any problems at the big FKK clubs. I was just explaining my question in a way to make sense as pathetic as it sounds.
There are a couple things about Sugarbabes that stop me from doing that in my country. One is they know exactly who you are. I have a hard time believing people trust those people not to get pregnant, do some sort of blackmail or just show up unannounced.
I wouldn't mind trying more of the FKK clubs. I did like Samya a few years ago. That did seem less mercenary but I can deal with a lot of things. I simple do not go with someone I do not like or is treating me the wrong way. I am not easily swayed. I am not a wolf but I am not sheep either. I am like a wolf hybrid.
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2832807]If you will be ok with covers BJ and basic fuck absolutely you could get 50/30. If you want BBBJ it's unlikely you will find it with a top tier girl. It was a year ago but I was able to negotiate a 100/30 w CIM with a top tier girl and 50/30 with a heavier girl who was otherwise pretty. It def takes work and maybe some trade offs for BBBJ at that price. If you are ok fully covered I am sure you can get it.[/QUOTE]Encouraging information about Sharks. Understood from the forum that the base price is 100/30. So my visit will be fruitfull as before. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=FFM96;2832771][B]Brenda RO[/B] / Place is allways on the very left at the back of the bar seen from the entrance, mostly standing behind her chair. Approx. 165 cm, longer deep dark brown bit curly hair, no tattoos, no piercings, natural hanging Dora / Emil-Cups. She wears elegant high heels and is totally nude. I never was with her before. Perhaps I go with her some day. Why not![/QUOTE]Sometimes with stockings. Ex Lea / Leya, since 2016 .
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[QUOTE=Thampi62;2832849]Encouraging information about Sharks. Understood from the forum that the base price is 100/30. So my visit will be fruitfull as before. Thank you.[/QUOTE]As I wrote many times below, some new girls: Cami, Camila are for 80/30 and 130/60 and not for CBJ, not less pretty than most at Sharks and pretty sure competing in bed with some asking 150/30 or 200/60 . This is new Sharks, no logic, worthing only for very few rare for me, too much tornado for fast 100/40 or so fresh for 200/90 . GG casting is more interesting for me, more woman types rather than mostly little Romanians, even less girls and for less expensive, but Sharks now rate can attract from escorting and I enjoyed some since 2022 .
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2832786]Catalea's popularity was artificially boosted by being the first new talent after covid reopening when line ups were very poor. That's the only reason. Otherwise, she was not so special, just big tits, okay face. But like I said, standing in one place for so long and not socializing, perception of time is skewed. What seems like hours to was probably only 30 minutes. If Valentina and Melissa were busy in the week, then impossible that were not busy on Fridays and Saturdays. I usually think I am right until proven otherwise. But when so many people say the same things to me differently, then I must question if I am the wrong one.[/QUOTE]On 2021 , with Sena, Tamara, also Daisi. De, Sharks casting was higher quality for me than on this Summer when quantity don t always make quality for me. At this time, I got many full GFE 100/60 . Sure, Katalea was more fresh face than now with heavy make up and pretty sure more fresh in bed in July but didn t last for long, when not GFE in mind but at work. Not big tits, but perfect be cup, when her body is her best point. I m happy when I see her eating, not to see bones between her perfect be tits. Melissa who was already before covid, was on 2021 . Roxy, Brenda, Angela more slim, also. Alina and Sabrina, Lara. De, also. Even a so elegant black German on July 2021 . Avia with beautiful small naturals, before big silicon on 2022 . I preferred Sharks casting on 2021 .
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[B]Catalea RO[/B] / 180 cm without HH, black longer smooth hair, brown eyes, solid Berta-Cups, completely natural body, no silicone, no "hyaluron" lips, nice white dents. The most beautiful woman at Sharks for me and a lot of other guys. Stunner! Model! Perfection! She is very honest, holds the time and her promises. FK depends on sympathy, hygiene and clean good dents. She tells you straight to the face if she kisses you or not if you ask ("I'm not a robot" - her words). If you are a lucky guy, you get also GFE like me. I room with her from time to time, but not regularly when I'm at Sharks, no problem for her (there are girls who are "jealous" on others and don't room with you again if you don't room with them regularly (LOL), isn't it funny), I have reported her and she is one of the girls who makes still good money at Sharks, for sure. Arrives between 2 pm and 3 pm, leaves normally not later than around midnight, Monday off, 100/30 or 200/60. Actually she should be still in vacation but I'm not 100% sure, no problem. Place is on the right at the back of the bar seen from the entrance.
[B]Valentina RO[/B] / One of the optic- and bodyflashes at Sharks. All is natural on her, good manners, great room with wet FK, 100/30. She has no fixed "place" in club. "fic" (fresh in club) since June 2023. She told me she likes Sharks. We will see.
[B]Lots of[/B] other beauties with nice service at Sharks. Read the "reports" in the forums by using a translater. That's the key!
[I][U]At all:[/U][/I]
Try to learn "Sharks". It's a bit (more) different to other clubs. Think with brain, not with cock. Don't accept every price for "low service" from a lot of these "jaws" (Why do you think, we German locals call them "jaws", eh?) Say "No" if it does not fit vis-a-vis, there are enough other girls at this place. Do NOT rise / destroy the prices with your "blind" rooms, read "forums" to be prepared, helps not to burn money too! A nice room (does not depend on 30 min, 60 min or much longer) depends on sympathy and behaviour while talking (perhaps also a bit pre-touching is allowed), holding eye contact, smiling and relaxed communication and no "hushhush" to go upstairs! No exception!
Oki? Thanks much!
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[QUOTE=Steve9696;2832807]If you will be ok with covers BJ and basic fuck absolutely you could get 50/30. If you want BBBJ it's unlikely you will find it with a top tier girl. It was a year ago but I was able to negotiate a 100/30 w CIM with a top tier girl and 50/30 with a heavier girl who was otherwise pretty. It def takes work and maybe some trade offs for BBBJ at that price. If you are ok fully covered I am sure you can get it.[/QUOTE]50/30 just for CBJ and fuck is too expensive for me. I prefer to pay 200/90 for excellence, real fresh GFE much more interesting deep intense than little Romanian professional kiss, and with a very fresh rare. At least, with potential at Sharks, I found her beyond the mass, even she seems now to prefer escorting business making hundreds and thousands.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2832861]Katalea was more fresh face than now with heavy make up and pretty sure more fresh in bed in July but didn t last for long, when not GFE in mind but at work. Not big tits, but perfect be cup, when her body is her best point. I m happy when I see her eating, not to see bones between her perfect be tits.[/QUOTE]Catalea is absolutely not b cup. I think most people will describe her tits as quite big.
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Does 100/30 include BBBJ
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2832807]If you will be ok with covers BJ and basic fuck absolutely you could get 50/30. If you want BBBJ it's unlikely you will find it with a top tier girl. It was a year ago but I was able to negotiate a 100/30 w CIM with a top tier girl and 50/30 with a heavier girl who was otherwise pretty. It def takes work and maybe some trade offs for BBBJ at that price. If you are ok fully covered I am sure you can get it.[/QUOTE]100 is for basic fuck and BBBJ right? Not great not terrible but an extra 50 just for no condom blowjob just seems crazy to me.
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100/30 I could live with depending one thing
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2829083]Wanted to give a contradictory account of pricing to a recent post claiming most girls were asking 200 per hour. I didn't find that to be the case on this Wednesday. The overwhelming asking prices are still 100 per 30 and 150 for 60. Two second tier girls offered 80 e basic quick service. Official word from reception is prices start at 50 e but of course I did not find that. I'm sure the 50 e service can be had with some of the lowest tier girls but I didn't talk to those girls to confirm for myself. I took a regular and got a 150 e hour that included an extra service, so basically got a 100 e hour with a 50 e extra. I'll likely try one of the newer stunner looking girls for 150 e for 60 min if I can squeeze that in without my regular seeing I'm paying the new price.
The original poster who quoted a majority of girls asking for 200 e was there on a Saturday so perhaps that explains the different price quotes we observed. Then again, I'm here on a Wednesday which should be the second busiest day of the week. I noticed the crowd tonight is pretty small for a 50 e entry Wednesday. Not too long ago, on Wednesdays at 11 pm, you would see a hundred young Turkish guys in the main room. Today, that crowd is minimal, maybe making up only 15-20% of the men. So I think these girls have priced out that group.
With one poster saying that the club supposedly asked girls to accept a lower 80 e price and the fact that when I asked the reception for official club prices, they said that prices start at 50 e, the club must have felt the loss in entries and seem to be trying to curb the extortion prices. It would be a dream if the 50 e price ever come back but that is definitely just a dream.
Hopefully mongers stay strong and spend smart. One can only ask the newbies to not go over the 150 e hour asking price and the guys who go often to try to negotiate a lower price or perhaps ask for an extra service to be included.
From what I am seeing, 200 e for an hour is a rare asking price and one should know that the girl is taking advantage of them if they accept that price.
Last, it doesn't seem universal that 100+ 50 per extra 30 min is what all girls expect. One girl tried to say that the third 30 minutes is back to 100 e so of course I objected and she easily backed down. Girls will take it if you let them but it really only took 5 words showing that you're not to be hustled and you can avoid contributing to the rip off price culture.[/QUOTE]I can handle 100/30 if it was an exceptional girl but 100/30 with the cover on is crazy to me. If I'm paying 100430 it should be BBBJ. Do many girls do this?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2833058]Catalea is absolutely not b cup. I think most people will describe her tits as quite big.[/QUOTE]Yes, for European size when Sharks is in Europe and she is European, as FFM confirmed below, Katalea is perfect be cup naturals. When she became after 6 1 hour rooms for 150/60 , not so interesting in bed with limited vagina for my size, on July 2021 , Tara was so much more real GFE, more elegant and more skillful for BJ for 100/60 for our many rooms, my best Sharks 2021 girl when Katalea was elected Miss Sharks but not for me, but I loved her really hardening pointing nipples and chicken skin on ass milky skin telling she came many times on our rooms. From September, when I came back from holidays, when Tara became my number 1 , but Katalea asked me to keep on going with her, what I did for 5 other 1 hour rooms, but not much interesting anymore, til she was bullshit on November by famous 555 multi profiles here only able for this with girls. Not what I call a GFE. Part of GFE, not only Romanian kiss, is when a girl look what You do, ask: You do same with other girls? Ask You not to go with other girls, when You see dark or wet eyes when You go with other, then You know You touched her emotion, interesting game I was often and still used to, from my way. When a girl doen t care about what You do, then can t tell about real GFE, just money business among others, not more, when I saw more than 10 turning mad, even busy superstars at Globe or LR. Each one own experience, when our experiences are usually built from our standards from past life. Kloe is European Ce cup. Brenda should be De / E cup. All naturals. Many beautiful naturals at Sharks, but not enough for my desire, when almost average looks on my standard.
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[QUOTE=CwaSally;2833113]100 is for basic fuck and BBBJ right? Not great not terrible but an extra 50 just for no condom blowjob just seems crazy to me.[/QUOTE]Yes for 100/30 , most should provide BBBJ, but many ask extra 50 for kissing and not sure they are able to kiss sensually like a woman, meaning 150/30 for almost little Romanians when not many wow looks. Crazy, more expensive than escorts. I will stick to my escort level for 200/90 for so real GFE, even through contacts out of business, when she is so much more interesting, close to a normal woman.
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[QUOTE=CwaSally;2833113]100 is for basic fuck and BBBJ right? Not great not terrible but an extra 50 just for no condom blowjob just seems crazy to me.[/QUOTE]You have to ask the girl for that. Normally 100/30 includes everything except deep FK, CIM, anal etc. Make sure that you agree on what services in the room before entering or it will cost extra.
Anyone knows the name of short small girl with black hair to breast height and has pale white skin? Is she good? I have seen her been quite busy.
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Wednesday at Sharks
This is my first time on Wednesday. I arrived at 20 h because the ICE was almost one hour late from Paris. As a DB service is expected to be.
Entrance 50, cool. Not so many men. LU was mostly the same as last week, except for a few "new" and some notably missing (Melissa). I'd say LU was 2/3 of the LU on peak time on a Friday.
The LU got progressively WORST as girls would start to leave at 22.00, and no new girls to replace them. At midnight it was already down to less than 50%. Many couch, seats, places were empty / free.
Valentina wasn't having much problems getting rooms, just taking a break from time to time.
Bibi was here also with her flawless body. She was the star of the night, making rooms back to back. She would be waiting to get get payment and find herself surrounded by 2-3 men trying to get a piece of her ass almost immediately.
I looked everywhere for Catalea but couldn't find her. I asked one of the girl I was taking to a room if she knew her / saw her. She wasn't too happy to speak about another girl but she told me she wasn't here. But I didn't ask if she's seen her this week. She's a unicorn in my book, the stuff of legend until I see her.
Zaineb.
Started with her. As far as I can tell she doesn't like kissing but I didn't try again after she avoided me once. Good session, I took my time. I had no plan so we ended up staying 1 h, 150 euros.
Ramona.
She tried to get me immediately when I got in and then when I left after Zaineb. I told her I needed some time. She came again maybe 5 min later while I was eating an apple, grab my hand and lead me to a couch. We talked a little bit. She tried to get me to take her other friend, Becky, which I must say has also a smoking hot body. If only she dropped the stupid glasses. But that body. I'm not into threesome, it's a waste of time and money so I declined but I went with her. Good session, multiple positions, 30 min 100 euros.
Electra.
Skinny small girl that likes to sit on the couches before the bar coming from the entrance. She did a pole dance show. Very slim with a small ass but delicious looking tits and very cute face. She somehow avoided me all night, even when I gestured to her. At 1 in the morning, I decided it would be either her or I would leave. I went to say Hi, she looked at me for a split second before answering. On closer inspection, she was a little bit less cute with very glossy lipstick. When I asked her how she was, she said she wanted Champagne. Yeah right. I pretended I didn't hear that and sat next to her. We talked a few minutes and then she said she wanted alcohol. And asked me if she should pay for it or if I wanted to pay for her. Oh fuck off. I again replied that I wanted to take her in the room, to which she replied "yes but it's 100 for 30 minutes". No shit, I thought it was free. "And I don't kiss". Hmm ok. "And I don't do BBJ". At that point I completely dropped the idea. I could do without those but I knew it would be a shitty session from her attitude. I just laughed and said "then what do you do". "Just normal stuff". Yeah right. She went to get her alcohol and I just left and went to my hotel.
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[QUOTE=FFM96;2832940][B]Catalea RO[/B] / 180 cm without HH, black longer smooth hair, brown eyes, solid Berta-Cups, completely natural body, no silicone, no "hyaluron" lips, nice white dents. The most beautiful woman at Sharks for me and a lot of other guys. Stunner! Model! Perfection! She is very honest, holds the time and her promises. FK depends on sympathy, hygiene and clean good dents. She tells you straight to the face if she kisses you or not if you ask ("I'm not a robot" - her words). If you are a lucky guy, you get also GFE like me. I room with her from time to time, but not regularly when I'm at Sharks, no problem for her (there are girls who are "jealous" on others and don't room with you again if you don't room with them regularly (LOL), isn't it funny), I have reported her and she is one of the girls who makes still good money at Sharks, for sure. Arrives between 2 pm and 3 pm, leaves normally not later than around midnight, Monday off, 100/30 or 200/60. Actually she should be still in vacation but I'm not 100% sure, no problem. Place is on the right at the back of the bar seen from the entrance.[/QUOTE]When did you see Catalea? I was in Sharks yesterday (Wednesday 5 July) and she wasn't there as far as I can tell and as far as one girl told me. I still don't know what she looks like but the girl knows.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2816242]Maybe she now wants to compete with small average look Simona. When she did escort, when her business was not so good at Sharks on December, she was for 100/30 and 200/60 for me, and now 300/60 at Sharks? Maybe to pay fake extensions for horse ass, new showgirl look, much less fresh natural image and even starting cellulite on ass staying for too long in this business since Finca on last Summer. I wondered how she could find Finca Erotica in deep Dierdorf on her own from deep France, not even from Paris, but Germans told me about manager called pimp in France, when french group told me about her askings guys to send her money for her birthday at home, when she should already have had big money since her start on last Summer, but kind of Romanian with 555 size pimped manners, not like french women manners. None of my girlfriends never asked me to give them money, even they had lower salary than me, but they were too proud about their image in my eyes to ask.[/QUOTE]Cellulite on who's ass? Simona or Lora?
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833191]Electra.
Skinny small girl that likes to sit on the couches before the bar coming from the entrance. She did a pole dance show. Very slim with a small ass but delicious looking tits and very cute face. She somehow avoided me all night, even when I gestured to her. At 1 in the morning, I decided it would be either her or I would leave. I went to say Hi, she looked at me for a split second before answering. On closer inspection, she was a little bit less cute with very glossy lipstick. When I asked her how she was, she said she wanted Champagne. Yeah right. I pretended I didn't hear that and sat next to her. We talked a few minutes and then she said she wanted alcohol. And asked me if she should pay for it or if I wanted to pay for her. Oh fuck off. I again replied that I wanted to take her in the room, to which she replied "yes but it's 100 for 30 minutes". No shit, I thought it was free. "And I don't kiss". Hmm ok. "And I don't do BBJ". At that point I completely dropped the idea. I could do without those but I knew it would be a shitty session from her attitude. I just laughed and said "then what do you do". "Just normal stuff". Yeah right. She went to get her alcohol and I just left and went to my hotel.[/QUOTE]Yes this is typical Electra routine.
Do Not mistake: Electra can DFK, BBJ, CIM and much more but she must like you and if you are regular.
If its obvious you're one timer tourist then the shittest you with ask champagne, then tell she no kiss, no this, no that and watch your reaction. Good for you that you did not go to room with her. Would waste money and time.
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[QUOTE=CwaSally;2833113]100 is for basic fuck and BBBJ right? Not great not terrible but an extra 50 just for no condom blowjob just seems crazy to me.[/QUOTE]Depends. You must negotiate.
There is no price table on the wall my friend.
You must understand how to be in club.
If many women and few clients and business slow. Then you offer 50 $ for 30 minute and get no condom blowjob and girl may accept. Or not. Then you talk to other girl. Someone will take it.
Easy to get 50 $ girls when club just open and clients still warning to ambiance.
But if many client full house obvious girls will reject shitty offer.
Also they talk each other just like we guys do. Soon you will become famous like the 50 $ guy.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2833206]Cellulite on who's ass? Simona or Lora?[/QUOTE]Not Simona, my scanner eyes didn't see cellulite on her very small ass, when I like round with sexy waist ass ratio.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833193]When did you see Catalea? I was in Sharks yesterday (Wednesday 5 July) and she wasn't there as far as I can tell and as far as one girl told me. I still don't know what she looks like but the girl knows.[/QUOTE]I wrote [U]yesterday[/U]:
[QUOTE=FFM96;2832940]... [B]Actually[/B] she should be still in vacation but I'm not 100% sure, no problem...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833193]When did you see Catalea? I was in Sharks yesterday (Wednesday 5 July) and she wasn't there as far as I can tell and as far as one girl told me. I still don't know what she looks like but the girl knows.[/QUOTE]I saw her on June, but when not my target, I don't remember when. Maybe on holidays, or outside booking, or period?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2832786]Catalea's popularity was artificially boosted by being the first new talent after covid reopening when line ups were very poor. That's the only reason. Otherwise, she was not so special, just big tits, okay face.[/QUOTE]I disagree. In my personal opinion, I believe Catalea and Brenda are the two best Romanians in all of sharks. One has the body of a super model and the other one is a genetic lottery winner with big natural tits on a skinny body. Caveat, Catalea doesn't have the best looking smile and Brenda doesn't have the best looking face, but they both have amazing bodies and solid service. Just my opinion after many visits.
[QUOTE=CwaSally;2833113]100 is for basic fuck and BBBJ right? Not great not terrible but an extra 50 just for no condom blowjob just seems crazy to me.[/QUOTE]
If you want the Brendas and Catalea’s of the club, thats what they charge. And the Germans (the young ones) are definitely not going to go cheaper than that.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2831847]
Maria (Ro).
Now this one is a bit weird because I was up scanning the room looking for Cami. While waiting, one of the girl comes to me and start kissing my cheek and giving me a handjob. She wanted me to go to a room with her. She started at 100 "full inclusive" and ended at 50 for classic sex. I wasn't interested in having sex with her as she is very far on all account for what I'm looking for in here. But I thought to myself she would make a good enough "fluffer" so I offered her 50 but she would play with my body and give me a handjob in the public area upstairs, later moving onto one of the open beds. 50 for 30 min.
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How many Maria are there at Sharks? The Maria I met in late May was from Ukraine. She is about 170, 20-21 years, pretty face and very white skin. She also has a snake tattoo on one of her arms. A definite hottie!
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2833312]I disagree. In my personal opinion, I believe Catalea and Brenda are the two best Romanians in all of sharks. One has the body of a super model and the other one is a genetic lottery winner with big natural tits on a skinny body. Caveat, Catalea doesn't have the best looking smile and Brenda doesn't have the best looking face, but they both have amazing bodies and solid service. Just my opinion after many visits.
If you want the Brendas and Cataleas of the club, thats what they charge. And the Germans (the young ones) are definitely not going to go cheaper than that.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you're a breast man.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2833131]Yes, for European size when Sharks is in Europe and she is European, as FFM confirmed below, Katalea is perfect be cup naturals. When she became after 6 1 hour rooms for 150/60 , not so interesting in bed with limited vagina for my size, on July 2021 , Tara was so much more real GFE, more.[/QUOTE]European A be and see cups are the same as American. Only changes at DD and E.
Catalea has as much chance of being a be cup as I have of having a 10 inch cock. What is Berta cup? Does that mean be? FFM also only reports 3 or 4 Germans at Sharks at a time and you don't seem to agree with that so apparently agreement as a basis of evidence is only selected on the basis of how it suits you.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2833352]How many Maria are there at Sharks? The Maria I met in late May was from Ukraine. She is about 170, 20-21 years, pretty face and very white skin. She also has a snake tattoo on one of her arms. A definite hottie![/QUOTE]A Maria whom I had a session with last week was about 165, about mid 20's, had tanned skin, decent but not pretty face, and claimed to be Spanish from Barcelona, but did not seem to know of a well-known street there. Lacklustre room, not worth the 100 for 30 I paid.
Cami and her walking partner Seren (Moldova) were much better, and at a cheaper rate.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2833362]European A be and see cups are the same as American. Only changes at DD and E.
Catalea has as much chance of being a be cup as I have of having a 10 inch cock. What is Berta cup? Does that mean be? FFM also only reports 3 or 4 Germans at Sharks at a time and you don't seem to agree with that so apparently agreement as a basis of evidence is only selected on the basis of how it suits you.[/QUOTE]He use Berta meaning Be cup for Katalea who doesn't have big tits like Kloe, but her naturals are just perfect I think 85 B and her nipples talk so much about her body reactions, also her wet. But she didn't say thank You after her orgasms, when Kate did like many others, top GFE being girls asking me to give them orgasm, usually weekly, real GFE game, like a man have to for his girlfriend. I also confirm seeing Melissa who is not new or Valentina who iis new almost making no room on Friday evening or Saturday. Good for them if they get better business on Wednesday. Since 2022 , I got 4 good Germans at Sharks, 1 at 6 and 1 in Rhur, my foreigner but not playing tourist, experience, when I keep on finding really high levels in FKK land. Sharks don t have many at the moment, but I found few there. GG is really competing now, when I will see about Wellcum on September but I don t expect more than eating, drinking sugar to recover, when I'm so happy to start my dreamed Summer tomorrow with Iseran for my breakfast since 7 months and so few ski on so bad Winter. I was hard to put my friend bicycle in back yesterday evening, same like when I press V8 start.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2833352]How many Maria are there at Sharks? The Maria I met in late May was from Ukraine. She is about 170, 20-21 years, pretty face and very white skin. She also has a snake tattoo on one of her arms. A definite hottie![/QUOTE]Actually only one Maria UA (Ukraine) at Sharks, not romanian, the description above is correct. Place should be on the couch left from the stairs up to the whirlpools.
The forums software takes the "A" for A-Cups and the "E" for E-Cups but not the other cup sizes. Writing be-Cups or see-Cups or the-Cups does not work. So I write [B]B[/B]erta-Cups or [B]C[/B]esar-Cups or [B]D[/B]ora-Cups. You understand?
Another very pretty girl with a stunning body, behaviour and good service is [B]Camilla RO[/B], in club on Wednesday and on the weekends. Nice rooming for 100/30 with wet FK. Place is on the couch right in front of the pole under the stairs, sometimes she sits also on the pole.
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Dead Friday
Strange day. Arrived at 18.00 and the club was nowhere near full capacity. I don't know what the fuck they did to AC but it was not working / off and it was freaking hot inside.
LU was as usual but with more fatties and just plain ugly girls. One more tall girl I see for the first time, sitting initially on the couch facing immediately the pole. Pretty face.
I think I finally found "Brenda", sitting at A4 in the sharks layout. Someone said she has a "Morticia" look and sure enough, I'd say that's accurate. Many tattoos, glasses, emotion-less face. She did nothing for me so I didn't approach. She is tall and has generally a good body but I disliked her tits.
Didn't see Bibi today despite she told me she'd be there. I saw Melissa once, wearing a body fishnet. She got a room maximum five minutes after going in.
One new girl "Rosalie" or something. At least she says she's been here for two days only. Nice ass, but hard bolt-ONS, instant dislike.
Valentina.
She came in at around 19.00, her hair not done so a bit curly, she was a bit less pretty overall than last time. Also because it was fucking hot, her face makeup was melting and she was visibly not in a good mood. She declined any offer to go to the rooms to men coming to her and when I asked her, she said she'd probably work only after 21.00. I came back to her later and offered to go for one hour. But I wanted to sit a little bit outside, on paid time. She just laid there on one of the outdoor couches, motionless and we just talked a little bit and I thought this wasn't a good plan. So we went to the room. Can you imagine having a girlfriend with a body like Valentina's? Damn those tits are just art.
We fucked. Nay, that's for peasants. I made love to her. She thanked me before, during, after and again and again until I asked her to stop. Told me I was the king of kings, her one true soul, that only me made her feel a woman, not like a little girl, in a country without the best potassium. That the orgasm I gave her were royal, pure real GFE, sparks in her eyes, her heart beating so fast when I kissed her, like she was my long lost girlfriend. So wet she almost drowned me in the room, her nipples winking at me, telling me how much she wanted me. I took her to heaven and back, for I don't pay for sex with little girls. She said that for sure she wanted to stop working after this love lesson.
Ramona.
Later at night, she came to me but I didn't feel I would get it going. I offered a deal, 100 for 30 if I get hard and fuck her. If I don't and she finishes me by hand, then I'll give her 50, which is more than fair enough. But she declined, saying she "never" goes for 50. Oh honey. So I declined too and that was it.
In general, today was not a great day. Between the lack of AC and lack of men, girls were not in a great mood.
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Is the Iranian woman still there? No idea of her name. She used to sit around the German corner and had very short hair. Last time I saw her was a few months ago. I'd say mid 30's.
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2833624]Is the Iranian woman still there? No idea of her name. She used to sit around the German corner and had very short hair. Last time I saw her was a few months ago. I'd say mid 30's.[/QUOTE]You mean fat Shiva who came from Oase? Not seen in both since a while.
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Brenda
Amazing naturals but no tattoo nor glasses. I don't agree for gothic Morticia when more sometimes Katalea heavy make up to hide behind the prostitute.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833617]
I think I finally found "Brenda", sitting at A4 in the sharks layout. Someone said she has a "Morticia" look and sure enough, I'd say that's accurate. Many tattoos, glasses, emotion-less face. She did nothing for me so I didn't approach. She is tall and has generally a good body but I disliked her tits.
[/QUOTE]I don't think you found Brenda. Brenda has no tattoos, no glasses and no piercings. Long dark brown hair, sometimes curly. Natural "Dora" cups but they are a bit sagging these days.
Keep looking.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2833663]I don't think you found Brenda. Brenda has no tattoos, no glasses and no piercings. Long dark brown hair, sometimes curly. Natural "Dora" cups but they are a bit sagging these days.
Keep looking.[/QUOTE]Not a so reliable profile, like many others bullshiting, when You find easily Brenda or others if they attract You, rather than being just a follower.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833617]I think I finally found "Brenda"... [/QUOTE]No, you have found [B]Debby DE[/B].
[QUOTE=FFM96;2803006]Debby DE (German)...[/QUOTE]Again, [B]Brenda RO[/B]. Description and place. The "search field" right above of this page helps also by typing, for example "brenda sharks".
[QUOTE=FFM96;2832771]Brenda RO...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833617]......I think I finally found "Brenda", sitting at A4 in the sharks layout. Someone said she has a "Morticia" look and sure enough, I'd say that's accurate. Many tattoos, glasses, emotion-less face. She did nothing for me so I didn't approach. She is tall and has generally a good body but I disliked her tits.......[/QUOTE]You found Gina, DE, her only similarity to Brenda is that like Brenda she can't take a good pounding.
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[QUOTE=FFM96;2833783]No, you have found [B]Debby DE[/B].
Again, [B]Brenda RO[/B]. Description and place. The "search field" right above of this page helps also by typing, for example "brenda sharks".[/QUOTE]I too have great difficulty spotting particular ladies even though I've been visiting the club for years.
However even I have found Brenda, one of the most recognisable ladies in the tank.
I only took a room with her for the first time last year because she actually laughed with me at the bar, she is generally a miserable looking woman.
To be fair to her it was an excellent room but when I rebooked her on another visit somehow it didn't match the first encounter so I haven't booked her since. I don't think the.
OP is missing much, it's best imo to just see with your eyes and engage then see how it goes rather than rely on recommendations.
If recommendations are wanted then Jenny from Spain who is easy to spot with a different hair colour each night and sits near the pole stage is well worth consideration.
As is Kisha from Kenya who sits on the round stage behind the bar. Both in my opinion give a better service than Brenda but again options differ.
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Last report on Sharks
Last report before I head home.
Still as hot as yesterday (yeah yeah, it's northern hemisphere, sharks is always hot, shocker). More lively though.
Catalea.
Stumbled upon here almost immediately. Unlike Brenda, this one was easier to notice, thanks to the description, her height and her location. Plus the fact Ramona saw me checking her out and told me, slightly annoyed, that it was indeed Catalea (I asked her about Catalea the day before).
22 yo, 1 m80 according to her. It was strange to be next to a taller woman than me (with the heels though).
Beautiful girl no doubt, the whole package as people have said already, slender, tall, beautiful face and smile, nice tits and ass. To me, she looks older than 22 but not in a bad way, just I wouldn't picture her as 22. Said she would go home in August or September for sure.
I've read that someone here went with her for 50 4 30, which is interesting. I wanted to go 1 h with her but she wouldn't budge on 200 so we went only for half-hour.
She left slightly after midnight. Even fully dressed in her "civilian" clothing, she was still a beautiful woman to look at no doubt.
Zaineb.
Wanted another girl but she was busy for too long. Looked for Bibi but couldn't find her so I went to Zaineb who was wearing a body fishnet. I preferred the look with just the bra. Anyway, good session.
Melissa was here today wearing a short black skirt but kept busy. I saw Bibi only once. Valentina and Catalea didn't seem to have that much success today. Silvana was relentlessly going from man to man.
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Heat, potassium and Sharks logistics
[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833617] Told me I was the king of kings, her one true soul, that only me made her feel a woman, not like a little girl, in a country without the best potassium. [/QUOTE]Love your sense of humor. You really got me with the potassium! Hillarious, LOL!
[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2833617]I don't know what the fuck they did to AC but it was not working / off and it was freaking hot inside.[/QUOTE]Can we start a lobby group for AC? Half serious about it. A fuck factory without AC is not ok. I was at Sharks June 16-17, and the heat was a problem already then. My second session was half ruined by the heat and the girl's unbelievably stinky feet. Never experienced that before, very disturbing. The girl had actually mentioned she would get new shoes as her current ones were a little smelly. Good idea. How bad can it be, I naively thought to myself. Foot odors aside, with temperatures around 35 degrees see I just don't think Sharks will work for me. Maybe Palace can be a better option, or one can come late to Sharks and stay outside.
Sharks was otherwise ok, plenty of girls although very few to my taste. Seemed like a few hotties were disappearing only seconds after they arrived.
About logistics, I stayed in Frankfurt the first night and took a taxi back from Sharks. It was like 78 EUR or so. I took an S-bahn to Darmstadt but it turned out to have been a mistake as it was much slower than the trains which are the same price, approximately 10 eur in the RMV machines at the main station. So if you go from Frankfurt to Darmstadt, recommendation is to avoid the S-bahn and take the RB train instead. From Darmstadt Hbf you either walk to Sharks, or take a taxi. It might be a bit far if it is hot out. Taxis are available at the train station, forgot the exact price but I think it was 12-15 eur.
I stayed at Holiday Inn and it was great. Very comfortable and clean. From now on I will stay there whenever I am in Darmstadt. Tried other hotels but Holiday Inn was much better.
Might be going to Sharks again the coming weekend, may also give Oase / Palace / Mainhattan a chance again. We'll see.
Cheers.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2833625]You mean fat Shiva who came from Oase? Not seen in both since a while.[/QUOTE]Iranian and very short black hair, huge ass. So that must be her.
I remember her as I got owo / CIM with her upstairs then went to my wallet in the locker room and realized I didn't have enough money left. So went to the ATM in sharks and none of my cards worked. Had to leave my phone at the front desk as security and get a taxi in search of ATM's in a panic to get the money which I eventually did after a major struggle and headed back to sharks to pay.
That was the first time I tried to use the ATM in sharks, ever since then I have tried my cards on that ATM machine and they never work even though visa debit / credit cards. So I always bring emergency backup money now.
On a separate note why is the bar in sharks so slow the service? You'd think they would have proper pints on draft by now and another ATM machine!!
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Holiday for the girls
Anybody know when most of the girls go on holiday during the summer months?
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2834183]Iranian and very short black hair, huge ass. So that must be her.
I remember her as I got owo / CIM with her upstairs then went to my wallet in the locker room and realized I didn't have enough money left. So went to the ATM in sharks and none of my cards worked. Had to leave my phone at the front desk as security and get a taxi in search of ATM's in a panic to get the money which I eventually did after a major struggle and headed back to sharks to pay.
That was the first time I tried to use the ATM in sharks, ever since then I have tried my cards on that ATM machine and they never work even though visa debit / credit cards. So I always bring emergency backup money now.
On a separate note why is the bar in sharks so slow the service? You'd think they would have proper pints on draft by now and another ATM machine!![/QUOTE]Yes, Shiva who was at Oase before. Not seen since long time. I think 2 ATM now. Yes, bar is bad point at Sharks when desk really improved.
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2834183]On a separate note why is the bar in sharks so slow the service? You'd think they would have proper pints on draft by now and another ATM machine!![/QUOTE]Yeah don't get me started on that slow as fuck shitty service. Especially from the black women. Get the fuck out of here if you don't want to work or do such a piss poor job. The big german woman in shorts is much friendlier, so is the very old woman and the somewhat elegant woman with big boobs. But those black girls. Fuck them and their shitty service. You could be waiting 1 h and not get a fucking drink. At one point I just wanted still water so I kept my plastic cup and would just refill it from the bathroom.
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[QUOTE=Apple777;2834186]Anybody know when most of the girls go on holiday during the summer months?[/QUOTE]Same as everyone I guess, since men would be on holiday and there is no AC to not die from heat inside. Many girls mentionned July and August, some September. So a safe bet would be to expect most girls to go on vacation somewhere during mid-July to mid-September.
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[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2834176]
Can we start a lobby group for AC? Half serious about it. A fuck factory without AC is not ok. I was at Sharks June 16-17, and the heat was a problem already then. My second session was half ruined by the heat and the girl's unbelievably stinky feet. Never experienced that before, very disturbing. The girl had actually mentioned she would get new shoes as her current ones were a little smelly. Good idea. How bad can it be, I naively thought to myself. Foot odors aside, with temperatures around 35 degrees see I just don't think Sharks will work for me. Maybe Palace can be a better option, or one can come late to Sharks and stay outside.
[/QUOTE]What'up with the AC? Very simple answer: they are saving money. Energy costs much more than in previous years in Germany. And if they tell you it's broken, don't believe it. It's an easy excuse.
And why should they bother cooling the place down? They don't really care about customers or girls. They care about making money, and both men and girls show up anyway. If you have a bad room because the girl is in a bad mood, or she doesn't even want to go upstairs because it's too hot, well, Sharks makes money anyway.
And people who go there regularly even under these conditions are kind of responsible about this. Globe is the same. Freaking hot in the summer. But still full. No thank you, without me.
I was going to visit this week, but I changed my mind. I am not that desperate.
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2834333]What'up with the AC? Very simple answer: they are saving money. Energy costs much more than in previous years in Germany. And if they tell you it's broken, don't believe it. It's an easy excuse.
And why should they bother cooling the place down? They don't really care about customers or girls. They care about making money, and both men and girls show up anyway. If you have a bad room because the girl is in a bad mood, or she doesn't even want to go upstairs because it's too hot, well, Sharks makes money anyway.
And people who go there regularly even under these conditions are kind of responsible about this. Globe is the same. Freaking hot in the summer. But still full. No thank you, without me.
I was going to visit this week, but I changed my mind. I am not that desperate.[/QUOTE]When I visit a bit FKK land, I don't know any other club which made as much improvements than Sharks since 2014. On Summer, warm and on Winter, cold, even less and less snow now. Yesterday, I enjoyed making intense sport for more than 1 h30 under 48 degrees under sun at the bottom and 37 degrees on top at 1968 high. Better to be fit than heavy, so, no problem for me at Sharks.
After reading on other forum, even I won't negotiate services or rate when grocery kill GFE image I only want to pay for, but more safe to ask for rate, when some little Romanians try to fuck clients. One asking 250/60 when probably not full hour. Look on watch.
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2834183]On a separate note why is the bar in sharks so slow the service? You'd think they would have proper pints on draft by now and another ATM machine!![/QUOTE]It's Fawlty Towers level stuff from some of the girls in that bar. It's almost like they're trying to wind the customers up. You can get pints, but only wheatbeer. No idea why, but they only sell pilsener in half pints.
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Are these ex-WG's?
Last time at Globe there were at least one bartender that was prettier than the majority of the WG's. I wondered a bit about that.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2834307]Yeah don't get me started on that slow as fuck shitty service. Especially from the black women. Get the fuck out of here if you don't want to work or do such a piss poor job. The big german woman in shorts is much friendlier, so is the very old woman and the somewhat elegant woman with big boobs. But those black girls. Fuck them and their shitty service. You could be waiting 1 h and not get a fucking drink. At one point I just wanted still water so I kept my plastic cup and would just refill it from the bathroom.[/QUOTE]May I offer a different take on it. First, I've accepted that service will be slow at Sharks regardless who is behind the bar. However, I've noticed that with the older ladies, nothing you do will hasten their service. You can be a spender, polite, friendly; it doesn't matter, service is still slow. But with the women from Ghana, well you can win favor with them. While I definitely agree that their baseline speed is pretty slow, once you win them over with some pleasantries, a friendly smile, or a joke, you can have success in obtaining properly paced service. Still took forever for them to poor a beer though. It's like they fill the beer then wait until the foam settles before topping it off. I don't think they know that a proper beer pour involves some waste by spilling the foam. Imagine if at every pub, all the bartenders wait for each beer to settle before topping it off.
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When targeting old small woman, bar is not so bad. At Sharks, for bar and girls, You win to play flexible to find rare among the very average mass not worthing rate they ask, even accepting to leave full balls rather than wasting money for average. But if You are not tourist, not only Sharks in Germany, same like not only Globe in Switzerland if You don t need rules to get more freshness with girls.
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[QUOTE=Ararat;2834470]Are these ex-WG's?
Last time at Globe there were at least one bartender that was prettier than the majority of the WG's. I wondered a bit about that.[/QUOTE]I read that Esther used to work the bar in Sharks. Is she still on the other side of the bar now?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2834693]I read that Esther used to work the bar in Sharks. Is she still on the other side of the bar now?[/QUOTE]Long time at Sharks Ester who put silicon is working in rooms.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2834307]Yeah don't get me started on that slow as fuck shitty service. Especially from the black women..[/QUOTE]Hahaha, yes, the notoriously slow service at the bar at Sharks. Another perfect example for the piss-poor Sharks management who don't seem to be able to manage a lemonade stand.
Although some of the black girls perhaps aren't the quickest, they (eventually) get you your correct drink. The absolute worst is IMO that German white guy who dresses like a girl (a bit chubby, short permed dyed blond hair, bright lipstick on tiny thin lips) who seems to have difficulty remembering more than one drink. Order a simple coffee + a glass of sparkling water, and she-he-they-them gets all confused and you can consider yourself HAPPY if you (eventually) get an cappuccino with still water.
BTW, the concept of "service" is generally pretty lousy in Germany and it has been like that for decades, they even got an expression for it: "Die Servicewueste," which translates as 'the 'service desert' and it's even got it's own Wikipedia page LOL!
[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servicew%C3%BCste[/URL]
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2834307]Yeah don't get me started on that slow as fuck shitty service. Especially from the black women. Get the fuck out of here if you don't want to work or do such a piss poor job. The big german woman in shorts is much friendlier, so is the very old woman and the somewhat elegant woman with big boobs. But those black girls. Fuck them and their shitty service. You could be waiting 1 h and not get a fucking drink. At one point I just wanted still water so I kept my plastic cup and would just refill it from the bathroom.[/QUOTE]So I wasnt the only one. Noticed that at both the inside and outdoor bar with the Ghanaina women. Both of them looked like they were very unhappy about something and did not want to be there. I wish they can make serving water, coffee and juice (any free drinks) self-service so that they only have to serve the paid drinks.
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[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2835168]So I wasnt the only one. Noticed that at both the inside and outdoor bar with the Ghanaina women. Both of them looked like they were very unhappy about something and did not want to be there. I wish they can make serving water, coffee and juice (any free drinks) self-service so that they only have to serve the paid drinks.[/QUOTE]They laugh noisily when they leave at 5 am.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2835113]BTW, the concept of "service" is generally pretty lousy in Germany and it has been like that for decades, they even got an expression for it: "Die Servicewueste," which translates as 'the 'service desert' and it's even got it's own Wikipedia page LOL![/QUOTE]Yeah. Now consider that I'm from Paris, a place known for having the absolute worst pathetic service on earth. One time I was in a small cafe with a friend, I had to go to the bar to order / get my cappucino after waiting 10 min, the owner / waiter was talking down on an old French woman at that time. When it was time to pay, I had to go back to the bar. And the asshole / owner literally yelled at me, in front of every customer, "nooo tiiiips? A tip? You fucking twat.
Believe me, wherever I go, it's an upgrade over the "parisian waiters" yet I still managed to find the service in Sharks lousy, that's how bad it is LOL.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2835257]Yeah. Now consider that I'm from Paris, a place known for having the absolute worst pathetic service on earth. One time I was in a small cafe with a friend, I had to go to the bar to order / get my cappucino after waiting 10 min, the owner / waiter was talking down on an old French woman at that time.[/QUOTE]I lived for 10 years in Germany and this happened to me in Germany as well plenty of time. Basically you (= the customer) has to beg to pay, and beg to leave your money with them. It's an upside down world, but this is what decades of socialism (strong labour rights) and government micromanagement has achieved: there is ZERO incentive for employees to be nice to the customer and many business owners have adopted a similar mentality because the bureaucratic and fiscal hurdles for a competitor to open a competing business are so high.
Look at this from the Sharks management's perspective: where are the WGs and the customers going to go? To World? To Mainhattan? To Oase? So why should they care? Eventually they [I]wil[/I]l care when a deep recession or a 'plandemic' or [B]the launch of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) [/B] drives away customers and they can no longer pay for the huge overhead like staff, heating-cooling, drinks, laundry, food etcetera, but of course then it will be too late.
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Touching may cost
[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2832446]And let me tell you that you're wrong, it's not always included. Case in point, if you go to the RLD of Amsterdam, unless you make sure of everything and I mean everything, you will have girls who will refuse for you to touch them, some girls will even refuse to take off their clothes, just push aside their panties! It's not uncommon, over there it's a fucking joke. Even in Samya, one of the girl I went with refused to removed her heels in the room so she kept them on during the whole duration of the act.
.[/QUOTE]This is correct. It really depends on club. At Samya, they are trying to enforce 50 E /30 min rule, so many popular girls demand 30-50 E for touching or kissing breast. You have to ask what's included in at the beginning.
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An Ukrainian girl
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2825211]
List by FFM96
line Up - 7.6.
Adriana RO (ex Ashley), Agnes PL, Alea GR, Alexis RO, Alia (Bosnian-Turkish), Alice RO, Alina MD (ex World), Alisha HU, Anja RO (tall, black hair, the-Cups silicone), Amy RO, Anastasia RO, Anjelica LV, Ayleen AT, Bianca RO (tall and blonde hair), Brenda RO, Cami RO, Camilla RO, Candy MD, Carla RO, Celine RO, Chanel HU, Chantal (German-Turkish, new), Chloe RO, Christina RO, Dasha PL (tall, blonde hair, see-Cups silicone, new), Dea RO, Debby DE, Dunja (Serbia, ex Jana), Esther RO, Francesca IT (or RO?, brown hair), Francesca RO (blonde hair), Gabriela RO, Ica (Serbian-Romanian), Ivana RO (ex Mainhattan), Jana DE, Jessy DE, Kaliste RO new, Katalina RO (ex "Sabina", ex Oase), Kaira (Serbian-Slovenian), Kisha KE (Blacky), Lara DE, Lea DE (blonde hair), Lena RO, Lilia DE, Liz RO, Liv RO (ex Becki), Lolita DE (Peru-Chile, born in DE, ex "Lola", ex Samya), Madalina RO new (glases, A-Cups, under the fishtank), Magda RO, Mara MD, Melanie RO, Melina RO (curly hair, afrostyle), Mirella RO, Miriam RO (ex "Estefania", ex Oase), Misha RO, Monica RO, Nelly RO, Nico RO, Rebecca RO (next to Brenda RO by the bar), Renata RO, Sabrina MD (ex World), Samara (Iranian-Bulgarian, ex GoldenTime and Globe), Samira RO, Samy RO, Sarah RO, Shania RO (ex "Isabella", ex Bahama and Atlanta), Shirin (Iranian-Bulgarian), Silvana IT, Sky RO, Sophia (Macedonia, dark blonde hair), Sylvia RO, Ulia RO (ex "Katharina", ex Julia), Valentina RO new, Vanessa RO (now with glases), Victoria CZ-RO (blonde hair), Victoria RO (black hair).[/QUOTE]Does anyone know an Ukrainian girl named Lerira or something (I believe she is Romanian because Russians / Ukranians at FKK are usually Romanian), brown hair with pale skin, slim, A-cup, who sits at the left side of the bar from front near restaurant? Does she still work at Sharks? She is not listed in the FFM96 list above, so she may not be regular. Thank you.
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New price in Sharks
This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]You got screwed over but I got also quoted this price by some girls (Katalea for example). I didn't even entertain the idea whatsoever, as soon they said 200, I counter with 150 and if they declined, well we went half-hour or not at all.
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say you got screwed but you definitely gave up a couple of points to the WG side in the current pricing tug of war.
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Low quality service
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2835369]I lived for 10 years in Germany and this happened to me in Germany as well plenty of time. Basically you (= the customer) has to beg to pay, and beg to leave your money with them. It's an upside down world, but this is what decades of socialism (strong labour rights) and government micromanagement has achieved: there is ZERO incentive for employees to be nice to the customer and many business owners have adopted a similar mentality because the bureaucratic and fiscal hurdles for a competitor to open a competing business are so high.
Look at this from the Sharks management's perspective: where are the WGs and the customers going to go? To World? To Mainhattan? To Oase? So why should they care? Eventually they [I]wil[/I]l care when a deep recession or a 'plandemic' or [B]the launch of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) [/B] drives away customers and they can no longer pay for the huge overhead like staff, heating-cooling, drinks, laundry, food etcetera, but of course then it will be too late.[/QUOTE]I am not sure it's due to "socialism" or government. Samya and other FKK clubs do much better job than Sharks (especially Samya staff are nicer). Sharks have a strong competitor, OASE, so there is some pressure. I actually leave Sharks and go to OASE when I am not satisfied at Shark. What I believe is that, Sharks management is slowing service at bar on purpose so that customers hang around the bar which force customers to see and notice more girls. There are some customers who stay too long without buying anything which is regarded by management as a loss. They want customers to buy either drinks or girls. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense that they don't even provide any water.
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]When business is slow for most, some will ask as much they want, to new faces at Sharks, when tourists time. But among the mass, even without playing grocer when would kill GFE image for me, after our discovery, a German lowered from 200 down 150/60 to make me repeat and with another who wanted 200/60 , we made some 200/85 rooms, without speaking about money but just from behavior. More freshness and beauty for less expensive than at Globe for 150 per 30 .
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2835369]I lived for 10 years in Germany and this happened to me in Germany as well plenty of time. Basically you (= the customer) has to beg to pay, and beg to leave your money with them. It's an upside down world, but this is what decades of socialism (strong labour rights) and government micromanagement has achieved: there is ZERO incentive for employees to be nice to the customer and many business owners have adopted a similar mentality because the bureaucratic and fiscal hurdles for a competitor to open a competing business are so high.[/QUOTE]Ah Germany; where the customer is a mere inconvenience...
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[QUOTE=CitizenKane;2835736]Ah Germany; where the customer is a mere inconvenience...[/QUOTE]From extensive experience with Germans and Germany: the restaurants should be forced to have process descriptions for how to do service. Then you would have a valid claim that this was violated.
They won't understand that the customer was inconvenienced but they understand that they broke the rules.
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Not true
[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]This is not true, but times are tough for the girls since they jacked the price up to 100/30 and 150/60. The prices have to come down a bit to 75/30. But instead some girls are trying to compensate for bad business by jacking up prices more. Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2835474]Does anyone know an Ukrainian girl named Lerira or something (I believe she is Romanian because Russians / Ukranians at FKK are usually Romanian), brown hair with pale skin, slim, A-cup, who sits at the left side of the bar from front near restaurant? Does she still work at Sharks? She is not listed in the FFM96 list above, so she may not be regular. Thank you.[/QUOTE]A real Ukrainian speaking Russian and tornado hurricane in bed, even 2 with her friend, but both not slim and other names. On the other hand, pretty, full natural, immaculate Kiti was never Russian but Romanian.
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[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2835740]This is not true, but times are tough for the girls since they jacked the price up to 100/30 and 150/60. The prices have to come down a bit to 75/30. But instead some girls are trying to compensate for bad business by jacking up prices more. Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.[/QUOTE]Really kissing is not so standard for 100/30 or 150/60 , or have to grocer, what I refuse, I prefer not to insist and save my money from disappointment of average, when I want only excellence and I sometimes found at Sharks since October. One extreme GFE twice for 100/40 when all went so fast with her. One lowered down 150/60 after our 200/60 discovery when she could judge and wanted we repeat. One didn t care about time, under my way to take care of her, so really fresh GFE. Beyond the mass, few rare at Sharks. Sofi. De from Rhur escorting is back, for sure I would have repeated with her for 150/60 , but not her rate.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2835462]This is correct. It really depends on club. At Samya, they are trying to enforce 50 E /30 min rule, so many popular girls demand 30-50 E for touching or kissing breast. You have to ask what's included in at the beginning.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Samya became upselling land. You get nothing interesting for 50 = CBJ and Turkish or Asian fucking and all is for extra. I like friendly staff, but level is now not for me.
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]"New normal" means a "normal" working girl could charge that and that's false.
Now for a WG like Brenda, she could get away with it, but it's certainly not "normal.”
In 5-10 years will it be the new normal? History says yes. Inflation affects the price of everything.
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Just boycott Sharks
[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]But but but, I thought that the new rate was going to be 80430? / sarc.
[QUOTE=DeltaIndigo;2835740]Extremely retarded counter logical behavior. Refuse to give in.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but perhaps better yet: spend your money elsewhere and boycott Sharks, boycott Germany or even boycott Europe. Especially if you travel all the way to Germany from overseas just to fuck some overhyped WGs, then it really shouldn't be too difficult in selecting a different country or perhaps even an entirely different continent.
Instead of going for a large quantity of girls who provide very questionable and mediocre 'service' for stratospheric prices, perhaps it's now time to look elsewhere?
For example: Switzerland is more expensive (although with the increased rates and deteriorated 'service' at Sharks, this price gap has significantly narrowed), but then go for [B]far higher quality[/B] sessions and make a compromise to go with perhaps fewer girls, instead of continuing to pay more and more for shitty service in Germany? When spending approximately 500 Euros / CHF would you rather have 3 great GFE or PSE sessions in Switzerland, or 5 mediocre sessions in Germany?
When counting all the money you lose on shitty sessions in Germany, perhaps Switzerland is just as expensive (or cheap, depending on your viewpoint) as Germany, but without the hassle?
A simple calculation assuming a 30 minute standard session and assuming 1 CHF = 1 Euro, which isn't exactly true, but for rough calculation it will suffice. In Globe you fuck 5 random optically attractive girls at 150 CHF which costs you 750 CHF but in return you get 5 [B]great[/B] GFE or PSE sessions with real kissing, fingering, licking etc. In Sharks you fuck 5 optically attractive random girls for 100 Euros each for a total of 500 Euros, but 3 provide a ice cold mechanical service with no kissing, no fingering, just a Laufhaus fuck & suck with too much lube making it hard to cum, 1 girl provides a reasonable service with some very light kissing (no tongue) and no fingering, and 1 girl provides service on the same level as Globe. Basically you're paying 250 Euros / CHF per session at Sharks for service that is either reasonable or service that equals that of ANY random girl at Globe. At Sharks you're basically throwing away 300 Euros on shitty sessions in order to find the 2 girls that provide a reasonable to good service.
Sure, reports here about girls can help, but as always: YMMV, and the very few good girls are sometimes more difficult find or book, or worse, they might not even be working that particular week when you're visiting. I think most regular visitors of Sharks agree on two things: 1) it's becoming more and more expensive, and 2) consistently good service is more and more difficult to find.
I can't (yet) speak for other clubs in Switzerland, and sure, Globe has a lot of strange rules and policies, but so far I've always have had a [B]100% satisfaction rate[/B] with [B]randomly picked girls[/B] (purely by optics) when visiting Globe. I can't say the same for Sharks where you're more or less playing Russian Roulette when picking a random girl you don't know and haven't fucked before.
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[QUOTE=LifeIsTooShort;2387690]Hello people,
I got a question about a girl I booked on Friday 1 November at shark.
I really find her really pretty, she was sitting at the first small table just to the left near the entrance of the food court. She is blond, 26 years old, she has tiger tattoo on her right leg, a dog tattoo on her left leg, a lotus tattoo on her belly. She also have a piercing on her belly. She told me that she is Moldavian.
She got natural boobs, pretty big for me since it's not silicon.
She seems pretty popular, an Asian wanted to book her when I took a glass water before going up with her, and she told me that guy wanted to book her since two days. (Bullshit?
First I would like to know her name since I might not have heard very well, I think it was Sabina not sure at all.
She gave me a really good GFE experience, the service was really good for me, I met Megan at globe and I can say that they are similar in level of service provided. The things is she set the price at 150 for 1 hour all inclusive then 50 eu every extra 30 mn, and she told me that's the price for everyone with her. I also saw that she refused some clients. Since I found her face really pretty, I was thinking maybe she is a star at shark and I don't know.
So to say what I would like to know is:
-What's her name?
-Is she a star?
-150 euros for 1 hour at start, really?
BTW I'm not sure but I might have seen Adelina from Oase (Cameron diaz look alike). Maybe I'm wrong but if it's not her, that girl really look alike her.[/QUOTE]Ever since last year every time I looked at the the forum I thought the girl called Sabine / Sabina in Sharks also with a sister called Alina was the girl I met couple of years ago called Sabine who is Moldavian. You guys could see the description about her from the post I quoted from couple of years ago. Every time I came to Sharks and couldn't find Sabine I was disappointed same time I was confused because people just talked about her couple of days ago at the forum. Now I just gained better understanding about the girls since I just met the sisters at the club today. Just wondering does Sabine with bigger tits from Moldova still works at Sharks or she moved to somewhere else.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835649]This Friday is my first time back to Sharks since last October. Two of the girls I took to the room both of them told me the rate for 1 hour is 200 euro now instead of 150 euro which was the price I got last October. So just wondering is this the new norm now or I got screwed over?[/QUOTE]And of course you didn't tell the girls that it was your first trip in 9 month?! Girls are always ready to tell "truths" to naive men. Agreed prices before room, for example tell girls you paid 150 euro / hour "last week with that girl", instead off 9 months ago I paid.
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[QUOTE=Gaolegao366;2835893]Ever since last year every time I looked at the the forum I thought the girl called Sabine / Sabina in Sharks also with a sister called Alina was the girl I met couple of years ago called Sabine who is Moldavian. You guys could see the description about her from the post I quoted from couple of years ago. Every time I came to Sharks and couldn't find Sabine I was disappointed same time I was confused because people just talked about her couple of days ago at the forum. Now I just gained better understanding about the girls since I just met the sisters at the club today. Just wondering does Sabine with bigger tits from Moldova still works at Sharks or she moved to somewhere else.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Blond tall Sabina with no tattoo and blond Alina, both ex World, are at Sharks. Amazing what can read here and better not to trust all writings, when because of new rates, Sharks attract some girls and is the best potential for rare girls in whole FKK land, when I found 4 fresh, who would refuse Globe rules, but I prefer their freshness when I don t need rules. Sofi. De, Kloe, Katalea if she put less heavy make up, Valentina, would make riots at Globe where papy towel would book them whole day. At Sharks, just have to go on days for rare girls, open eyes to detect beyond mass of little Romanian and then make the job like a man with a woman, when I prefer to pay 200 for fresh beauties than 300/60 for average looks at Globe, Swiss Dietikon being a better value. I don t ask, but for those who don t like surprise of discovery, better to ask for service and rate before going. As Western European, I m fully sure freedom make quality and GG with less rules is higher quality for me than Bruggen under rules, when rules there or at Globe kill freshness for behavior.
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Frida & Saturday July 14,15th
Friday July 14th was a good day at Sharks, the weather was good and I arrived at around 7 PM.
The lineup was as good as the weather with a plenty of girls, mostly Romanian lineup as usual but there were a few good ones even for my taste. There was BBQ going on in the garden. I helped myself to a burger and a few beef slices, it was ok but not on par with the great BBQ from my visit last summer. That time it was actual BBQ prepared by an external company who knew what they were doing.
I only had one session, with a slim and very pretty brunette, Romanian yes but more Ukrainian than gypsy-looking. She had a very beautiful smile but a bit cold and business oriented once in the room, even tried upselling. Forgot the name. It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock, or too much lube. Perhaps a bit of both. In the end she finished me off with her hands and mouth. I rate the session as 4 out of 10. At best. I almost fell asleep after the first session due to an intense week of hard work and poor sleep, so I decided to leave early at around 10-11 pm. Before I left I noted that there were some new arrivals and the lineup was even better than when I arrived. All in all, better than I had expected.
Saturday July 15th was a bit slower than the Friday, somewhat fewer girls and guys. I was looking for a particular girl I saw Saturday before I left but, as she was not showing up, in the end I went with a 23-year old Romanian by the name Miko or something. I was a bit surprised by my own choice as she is theoretically not my type. Anyway, I went with her because she simply made me horny. Turned out to be a good choice, she was very sweet and I came nicely in her lovely puss. 6 out of 10. The bar service was a bit better than usual, so I actually managed to place several orders before the bar went back to normal. Perhaps management stepped in when they heard that a customer had received too efficient service, because I had to wait like 20 min for my last Pils, and once it arrived it had turned into a Weissbier due a change of beer barrel. They also forgot I had paid for it, but we got it sorted out.
There was some commotion at one time, apparently a girl had had an epileptic seizure. Hopefully everything went well with her.
Girls were complaining a little about too few sessions, I think I need to back soon again to help them out!
Tuna.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2835754]"New normal" means a "normal" working girl could charge that and that's false.
Now for a WG like Brenda, she could get away with it, but it's certainly not "normal.
In 5-10 years will it be the new normal? History says yes. Inflation affects the price of everything.[/QUOTE]You can be certain that if some girls start asking 200/60 now, it's not going to take 5 to 10 years for the new normal to become 200/60. It's probably a matter of months.
The major problem in this industry is that men are just money pigs and happy to pay. Very few would boycott and even those who claim to boycott would probably lie when talking on forums like this one but still visit and pay. This is exactly what happen when the 30 min rate have doubled 1 year or 2 ago.
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[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2836065]Friday July 14th was a good day at Sharks, the weather was good and I arrived at around 7 PM.
The lineup was as good as the weather with a plenty of girls, mostly Romanian lineup as usual but there were a few good ones even for my taste. There was BBQ going on in the garden. I helped myself to a burger and a few beef slices, it was ok but not on par with the great BBQ from my visit last summer. That time it was actual BBQ prepared by an external company who knew what they were doing.
I only had one session, with a slim and very pretty brunette, Romanian yes but more Ukrainian than gypsy-looking. She had a very beautiful smile but a bit cold and business oriented once in the room, even tried upselling. Forgot the name. It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock, or too much lube. Perhaps a bit of both. In the end she finished me off with her hands and mouth. I rate the session as 4 out of 10. At best. I almost fell asleep after the first session due to an intense week of hard work and poor sleep, so I decided to leave early at around 10-11 pm. Before I left I noted that there were some new arrivals and the lineup was even better than when I arrived. All in all, better than I had expected.
Saturday July 15th was a bit slower than the Friday, somewhat fewer girls and guys. I was looking for a particular girl I saw Saturday before I left but, as she was not showing up, in the end I went with a 23-year old Romanian by the name Miko or something. I was a bit surprised by my own choice as she is theoretically not my type. Anyway, I went with her because she simply made me horny. Turned out to be a good choice, she was very sweet and I came nicely in her lovely puss. 6 out of 10. The bar service was a bit better than usual, so I actually managed to place several orders before the bar went back to normal. Perhaps management stepped in when they heard that a customer had received too efficient service, because I had to wait like 20 min for my last Pils, and once it arrived it had turned into a Weissbier due a change of beer barrel. They also forgot I had paid for it, but we got it sorted out.
There was some commotion at one time, apparently a girl had had an epileptic seizure. Hopefully everything went well with her.
Girls were complaining a little about too few sessions, I think I need to back soon again to help them out!
Tuna.[/QUOTE]The Guy at bar is good. I was told usual slow Saturday afternoon and not crowded Friday. Some girls are for 80/30 and 130/60 , many ask 200/60 or more and I doubt for wow in bed for most of them. Just have to find the few high level, but at least some better looks and more fresh flesh than at Globe. Some really beautiful naturals versus silicone.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2836069]You can be certain that if some girls start asking 200/60 now, it's not going to take 5 to 10 years for the new normal to become 200/60. It's probably a matter of months..[/QUOTE]Haha! Nah ... slow down a bit, will you. LOL.
The first time I heard girls quote 100 E /30 was in late 00's (at Palace during the big fairs with huge crowds). It did not take months but rather more than a decade before 100 E /30 was the going rate at the major Hessen clubs. In the meantime 50 E /30 survived the 2008 financial crises, the "schwein flu", the 2017 law and partly covid.
It was not a sudden change, but a slow "painful" journey (as far as I, at least, was able to observe):
- In 2005 half hour for 50 E would give you excellent sessions (BBBJ / DFK / DATY / CFS) with the majority of girls. Negative reports were few and mainly about girls who would not french kiss properly or would not partake in public sex in the kinos.
- Then there were reports about a minority of girls not kissing at all (or only in extended sessions).
- Then there were reports about shortchange of time (30 mnts sessions lasting only 15- 20 mnts) among a minority of girls and / or on crowded nights. The majority of girls remained good providers (at least in a 60 mnts session).
- More girls started to demand minimum 60 mnts sessions for GFE service (more difficult to get that in a 30 mnts session).
- Then there were more and more reports about girls increasing prices during the big exhibitions at several clubs. A disease that had started at Palace spread to other clubs like Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan.
- Then there were numerous reports about girls exploiting firsttimers with no clue about rates or standard performance, in particular demanding huge tips from Americans and double fees from Asian visitors with no English skills.
- Still after the 2017 law 50 E sessions were possible, but an increasing number of girls asked for 50 E extra for the "GFE package" (I. E. 100 E /30 and 150 E /60, usw.).
- Then during corona the locals visited the FKK girls at brothels with rates at 100 E /30 - 150 E /60 for GFE sessions. Thus this become the norm at the FKK clubs when the clubs reopened in 2022 after corona.
- If you are not able to get great 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 sessions in 2023, I'd say you are doing something wrong. I suggest trying to play a little smarter rather than giving in.
I never understood the doom and gloom speculations. It is not very helpful.
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[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2836065]..... It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock.....[/QUOTE]This reminds me of one of my pet peeves at FKKs and that is the hot girl with the too loose pussy and I'm not small. Generally I hardly have this problem in Latin America and never in Asia.
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First time back to Sharks since COVID.
Arrived Saturday around 15 h30 and found the club was already pretty packed both with girls and guys. Around 18 h00 the line up was so huge that there was pretty much nowhere to seat for girls and many were standing.
Unfortunately although the number of girls was huge, there was little diversity in the girls. Couldn't find a single young natural looking cutie or girl next door type and most looked like Kim Kardashian wanabees with heavy make up around the eyes. Most had dark hair and dark eyes and didn't see any natural blonde and barely any light brunette type.
There were defintely a few stunners but again they looked to me like Kim Kardashian s clones which is really not my type.
Some had beautiful face but the make up just made them look bitchy.
It seemed to me that the average age of the girls was higher than pre Covid times. There were definitely a lot of girls in their 30's or soon to be being already totally out of shape and with heavy cellulite.
I made a few rounds and was approached a couple of times but couldn't find any girl I liked. Almost decided to head back with no rooms but was not strong enough mentally to leave without a single shot. Was approached by Melanie who was not really my type and had a quite big buttom but she was fun to talk with and easy going so decided to go with her.
In the room she was nice and friendly and didn't try any overselling or anything. It was an OK session and nothing to complain, she did the job and did put some effort into it. The only issue is that with age it becomes more and more difficult to really enjoy it without being really attracted to the girl so maybe it could have been much better if she was my type.
After the deed, was already close to 20 h00 and the club was just that big amount of flesh everywhere with that super loud music which became really annoying. Decided to leave as I knew I would be back Sunday.
Sunday came back again around noon and surprisingly the club was already quite full with a lot of customers and quite a few girls. I ve always preferred the Sunday afternoon easy going vibe as I find easier to look carefully at girls when it s less busy.
Line up was pretty similar to Saturday with little diversity. Managed to find a girl next door type but she seemed to be booked the whole afternoon by some old German guy.
Had a session with Mira or Mia who said she was quite new to the club. Session was Ok but could not get much connection wiht her.
Walked around and was approached a couple of times by some very good looking girls including a Miranda Kerr look alike who was cute as hell but didn't have any energy left. It was totally frustrating. Seems to me that every time I go a FKK I would find the cutest girl after I m done and about to leave.
I guess she ll be on top of my list on my next visit.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2836115]This reminds me of one of my pet peeves at FKKs and that is the hot girl with the too loose pussy and I'm not small. Generally I hardly have this problem in Latin America and never in Asia.[/QUOTE]I hear you, I for one have encountered quite a few slack holes. I wonder how large a role the lube plays though, maybe some of the loose pussies are only slightly spacious but severely over-lubricated? Own-cock-disclaimer; judging by my condom size I should be clearly above average, so my member is only partly to blame (but I admit, it would be great to be hung like a horse!
[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2836058]Hi,
Today is a good day for a look at the 4 factors that influence pleasure derived from friction in the penis-vagina interface.
The condom, my old enemy.
Couple of years ago a girlfriend told me I was using too small condoms. I had just on autopilot bought standard condoms, without ever giving it any thought. I realized she was right, they had indeed been difficult to put on and squeezed my cock white. Changing to bigger condoms made a bigger difference than I would have guessed. I still hate condoms but now they are only half as bad as they used to be. I have recently discovered a good brand of condoms called Mysize. I prefer condoms to be on the more spacious side and I found a size that works great for me. I first bought a trial pack from German amazon and later a large pack of the model I liked the best. Highly recommended.
Some girls use very thick condoms, without a jizz container at the top, which they pull down very hard. When the condom is put on that way, it can sometimes pull itself up slightly and drag some foreskin with it, the effect is having the head protected by both foreskin and thick rubber. Add too much lube and a big pussy and good luck feeling anything unless you are ultra horny. My own condoms largely solves this as they both have a container and are loose enough to be rearrange 'on cock' if need be.
The lube.
I kind of always thought the more the merrier when it comes to lube. I think that has been yet another stupid mistake of mine. Will be on guard against overlubrication as I move into future vaginas, although it is much harder to control than the condoms. If the girl really wants to empty a whole bottle in her flower, there is little to do to stop her. Scream "nooooooo" with a hysterical voice and fetch some napkins? I don't think so.
The cock.
Being as hard as possible is obviously very helpful, and for that horniness is needed. Unfortunately I am not 20 anymore so I am not as easily aroused anymore. Staying in shape, getting enough sleep and eating healthy food helps, so does not looking at porn. Unfortunately, I personally tend to get a little desensitized by the FKK environment after several hours of looking at tits and fucking the first time. Sort of sensory overload. Would be good to have a relax area off limits to girls, to rest my eyes a little. I guess it is always possible to leave the club and come back later though. Might try that some day. Would also be nice to check out the club's brunch breakfast.
The pussy.
I don't think there are any reliable indicators to predict pussy size of European women. Some slender young women can certainly have loose pussies. I am starting to think that lube might be a bigger factor than tightness in the pussy friction equation than I previously thought, so I might have confused the two factors. Will try to pay more attention during future sessions. Other than that, trial and error would be the way to go I guess.
Tuna.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2836098]Haha! Nah ... slow down a bit, will you. LOL.
The first time I heard girls quote 100 E /30 was in late 00's (at Palace during the big fairs with huge crowds). It did not take months but rather more than a decade before 100 E /30 was the going rate at the major Hessen clubs. In the meantime 50 E /30 survived the 2008 financial crises, the "schwein flu", the 2017 law and partly covid.
It was not a sudden change, but a slow "painful" journey (as far as I, at least, was able to observe):
- In 2005 half hour for 50 E would give you excellent sessions (BBBJ / DFK / DATY / CFS) with the majority of girls. Negative reports were few and mainly about girls who would not french kiss properly or would not partake in public sex in the kinos.
- Then there were reports about a minority of girls not kissing at all (or only in extended sessions).
- Then there were reports about shortchange of time (30 mnts sessions lasting only 15- 20 mnts) among a minority of girls and / or on crowded nights. The majority of girls remained good providers (at least in a 60 mnts session).
- More girls started to demand minimum 60 mnts sessions for GFE service (more difficult to get that in a 30 mnts session).
- Then there were more and more reports about girls increasing prices during the big exhibitions at several clubs. A disease that had started at Palace spread to other clubs like Sharks, Oase and Mainhattan.
- Then there were numerous reports about girls exploiting firsttimers with no clue about rates or standard performance, in particular demanding huge tips from Americans and double fees from Asian visitors with no English skills.
- Still after the 2017 law 50 E sessions were possible, but an increasing number of girls asked for 50 E extra for the "GFE package" (I. E. 100 E /30 and 150 E /60, usw.).
- Then during corona the locals visited the FKK girls at brothels with rates at 100 E /30 - 150 E /60 for GFE sessions. Thus this become the norm at the FKK clubs when the clubs reopened in 2022 after corona.
- If you are not able to get great 100 E /30 or 150 E /60 sessions in 2023, I'd say you are doing something wrong. I suggest trying to play a little smarter rather than giving in.
I never understood the doom and gloom speculations. It is not very helpful.[/QUOTE]When was easy to get full GFE with real fluent FK for 100/60 on 2021 at Sharks, go now to small Elektra or Simona or some other little Romanians to get real FK for 100/30 and You may experience a bit wrong and even more for 150/60 , when many ask 200/60 , like not so busy Katalea or Kloe, some asking even more, and not sure You will get kissing on a real woman level.
Sharks worth for only 1 point for me: I don t care about the mass of girls, but I understood and experienced I can sometimes find rare girls I won t find elsewhere in FKK land, just have to be able to detect. Why only at Sharks? Because of freedom there and some Germans or locals pay so expensive, when these girls from escorting won t accept rules making them problems, and then, You have to use your talent to compete versus big money guys. Only problem is some booking for whole day or night like one booked whole Saturday night, so I will have to return to discover and to make the job to compete. Good game at Sharks, I played for 200/90 for rare fresh GFE with rare fresh full natural German, or 100/40 with Ukrainian tornado who got problem on this Saturday evening, but I wish she will be fine.
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[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2836065]It was surprisingly difficult to cum, not sure it was a case of too loose pussy with respect to my cock, or too much lube. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Turgid;2836115]This reminds me of one of my pet peeves at FKKs and that is the hot girl with the too loose pussy and I'm not small. Generally I hardly have this problem in Latin America and never in Asia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YellowFinTuna;2836230]I hear you, I for one have encountered quite a few slack holes. I wonder how large a role the lube plays though, maybe some of the loose pussies are only slightly spacious but severely over-lubricated? Own-cock-disclaimer; judging by my condom size I should be clearly above average, so my member is only partly to blame (but I admit, it would be great to be hung like a horse![/QUOTE]IMO it's the lube.
Of course I've never seen my male friends with hardons fucking their wives and girlfriends and what you see in porn movies are guys that have been selected for their large dicks, but when I was in Globe and saw the public fucking and other guy's hard dicks, it was pretty clear to me that my dick is well above average. I don't want to sound like a mountain-climbing Frenchman, but my dick was easily the biggest in the club when comparing it to the other male visitor, but my dick size has never been an issue in the past with girlfriends or WG.
Never before did I have any problem cumming in Sharks (if there ever was a 'problem' it was cumming too quickly for my own liking, wanting more value for money, LOL!) , but since about a year or so I have a feeling that many girls in Sharks have resorted to using MASSIVE amounts of lube. Sure, I guess it makes their job easier, but it makes it more and more difficult for me to cum, sometimes having to finish by hand which sucks because a hand-job + PornHub I can do at home for free. When I visited Globe a few months ago I never had any issues cumming because Globe girls use an appropriate amount of lube: enough to make their job easy but sparingly enough for me to have a nice feeling which makes me cum easily.
The irony is that Shark girls make their own lives much more difficult by using so much lube, because the result is that they get pounded for 20-30 minutes, the guy gets all sweaty in those hot rooms which is something [U]all[/U] WGs hate, and the guy might not even be satisfied at the end. Oh well: such is the 'logic' and 'intelligence' of prostitutes. LOL!
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[QUOTE=VonSauer;2836229]First time back to Sharks since COVID.
Arrived Saturday around 15 h30 and found the club was already pretty packed both with girls and guys. Around 18 h00 the line up was so huge that there was pretty much nowhere to seat for girls and many were standing.
Unfortunately although the number of girls was huge, there was little diversity in the girls. Couldn't find a single young natural looking cutie or girl next door type and most looked like Kim Kardashian wanabees with heavy make up around the eyes. Most had dark hair and dark eyes and didn't see any natural blonde and barely any light brunette type.
There were defintely a few stunners but again they looked to me like Kim Kardashian s clones which is really not my type.
Some had beautiful face but the make up just made them look bitchy.
It seemed to me that the average age of the girls was higher than pre Covid times. There were definitely a lot of girls in their 30's or soon to be being already totally out of shape and with heavy cellulite.
I made a few rounds and was approached a couple of times but couldn't find any girl I liked. Almost decided to head back with no rooms but was not strong enough mentally to leave without a single shot. Was approached by Melanie who was not really my type and had a quite big buttom but she was fun to talk with and easy going so decided to go with her.
In the room she was nice and friendly and didn't try any overselling or anything. It was an OK session and nothing to complain, she did the job and did put some effort into it. The only issue is that with age it becomes more and more difficult to really enjoy it without being really attracted to the girl so maybe it could have been much better if she was my type.
After the deed, was already close to 20 h00 and the club was just that big amount of flesh everywhere with that super loud music which became really annoying. Decided to leave as I knew I would be back Sunday.
Sunday came back again around noon and surprisingly the club was already quite full with a lot of customers and quite a few girls. I ve always preferred the Sunday afternoon easy going vibe as I find easier to look carefully at girls when it s less busy.
Line up was pretty similar to Saturday with little diversity. Managed to find a girl next door type but she seemed to be booked the whole afternoon by some old German guy.
Had a session with Mira or Mia who said she was quite new to the club. Session was Ok but could not get much connection wiht her.
Walked around and was approached a couple of times by some very good looking girls including a Miranda Kerr look alike who was cute as hell but didn't have any energy left. It was totally frustrating. Seems to me that every time I go a FKK I would find the cutest girl after I m done and about to leave.
I guess she ll be on top of my list on my next visit.[/QUOTE]Can t you have a second room on day, if you feel desire for a girl?
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[QUOTE=VonSauer;2836229]
Walked around and was approached a couple of times by some very good looking girls including a Miranda Kerr look alike who was cute as hell but didn't have any energy left. It was totally frustrating. Seems to me that every time I go a FKK I would find the cutest girl after I m done and about to leave.
[/QUOTE]This Miranda Kerr look alike sounds like Kendra who sits on the right side under the TV. Very cute!
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2836402]This Miranda Kerr look alike sounds like Kendra who sits on the right side under the TV. Very cute![/QUOTE]Kendra hunting? But so heavy make up, hiding behind the prostitute, same like Katalea.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2836339]IMO it's the lube.
Of course I've never seen my male friends with hardons fucking their wives and girlfriends and what you see in porn movies are guys that have been selected for their large dicks, but when I was in Globe and saw the public fucking and other guy's hard dicks, it was pretty clear to me that my dick is well above average. I don't want to sound like a mountain-climbing Frenchman, but my dick was easily the biggest in the club when comparing it to the other male visitor, but my dick size has never been an issue in the past with girlfriends or WG.
Never before did I have any problem cumming in Sharks (if there ever was a 'problem' it was cumming too quickly for my own liking, wanting more value for money, LOL!) , but since about a year or so I have a feeling that many girls in Sharks have resorted to using MASSIVE amounts of lube. Sure, I guess it makes their job easier, but it makes it more and more difficult for me to cum, sometimes having to finish by hand which sucks because a hand-job + PornHub I can do at home for free. When I visited Globe a few months ago I never had any issues cumming because Globe girls use an appropriate amount of lube: enough to make their job easy but sparingly enough for me to have a nice feeling which makes me cum easily.
The irony is that Shark girls make their own lives much more difficult by using so much lube, because the result is that they get pounded for 20-30 minutes, the guy gets all sweaty in those hot rooms which is something [U]all[/U] WGs hate, and the guy might not even be satisfied at the end. Oh well: such is the 'logic' and 'intelligence' of prostitutes. LOL![/QUOTE]As I often wrote, of course Asians but not only and so funny for most musculars, but so many guys in FKK land have small size and frustrated about women who want to fuck pieces of meat at Globe, are for sure not impressive size. All my regulars who did welcome me, always refused in public with me, Megan even didn t want in Jupiter, when they were fucked in public by others. I must be unlucky.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2836402]This Miranda Kerr look alike sounds like Kendra who sits on the right side under the TV. Very cute![/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the info, I guess I will definitely head directly to Kendra when I go back next month then. Her smile is haunting me!
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[QUOTE=VonSauer;2836525]Thanks a lot for the info, I guess I will definitely head directly to Kendra when I go back next month then. Her smile is haunting me![/QUOTE]Kendra was only at Sharks last Friday evening, having only a session with a guy who made an appointment with her by whatsapp.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2836577]Kendra was only at Sharks last Friday evening, having only a session with a guy who made an appointment with her by whatsapp.[/QUOTE]When he was at Oase party, when I advised him to return to Sharks, Kendra was at Sharks on Saturday, but unfortunately for him not on Sunday. For my very few friends, I try to make them getting most enjoyment. Just for the tip, Nadia Oase doesn't speak Russian, but speak Romanian with Oase girls, same like Lora also speak Romanian.
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I was at Globe for two days early July, I can say now that Sharks suites me better. I think I'm loyal to Sharks- , there are more girls at sharks.
If I choose, I will definitely pick Sharks over Globe.
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Me too
[QUOTE=Tuber19;2836910]I was at Globe for two days early July, I can say now that Sharks suites me better. I think I'm loyal to Sharks- , there are more girls at sharks.
If I choose, I will definitely pick Sharks over Globe.[/QUOTE]After a couple of trips to Globe, I came to the same conclusion. I am much better off with the FKK clubs in Germany. Mostly because the girls are more accessible at the German FKKS. At Globe, I never had a chance to party with a popular girl, and I do not wish to stalk the girls.
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Unfortunately, Globe is not anymore high quality like in the past, now no wow look except Kelli ex Palace and Sharks, and not even higher GFE than I find at Sharks or GG. Some prettier girls at Sharks and I find more fresh GFE in Germany or at Freubad. Globe is now only higher level for public sex, if You need to fuck girls seen by others, but favorites I got there, didn't want with me, when they were fucked by other guys. I had a wow so fresh German on May / June at Sharks for 200/90, would cost 450 at Globe where no woman type like her. No looks like Sofi, Katalea, Kloe, Valentina at Globe, but 150/30, 300/60, 450/90 for me.
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The Best
[QUOTE=Lefeu;2836925]After a couple of trips to Globe, I came to the same conclusion. I am much better off with the FKK clubs in Germany.[/QUOTE]I have [B]always[/B] felt this way, even when Globe was supposedly the best in the business. Germany has always offered more choice in terms of number of clubs, better prices, equally pretty girls (per my tastes), and solid performance. Germany is number 1 in Europe for the FKK experience! Better than Switzerland and Austria.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2837037]I have [B]always[/B] felt this way, even when Globe was supposedly the best in the business. Germany has always offered more choice in terms of number of clubs, better prices, equally pretty girls (per my tastes), and solid performance. Germany is number 1 in Europe for the FKK experience! Better than Switzerland and Austria.[/QUOTE]Yes, Germany is best playfield, higher level with more fresh girls than at Globe or Wellcum and also more fresh GFE for me. Globe only worth for public sex, but not anymore for quality, when 150/30.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2832240]That's quite a bold statement and I doubt that it's true, but perhaps you're right. Please give us a link and show us the [U]relevant[/U] section of the law instead of just vague insinuations.
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[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.prostituiertenschutzgesetz.info/en/prostitution-business-permit/[/URL]
Weisungsverbot = "instruction prohibition".
Clubs are quasi prohibited from telling anything to girls regarding pricing and service.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2837182][URL]https://www.prostituiertenschutzgesetz.info/en/prostitution-business-permit/[/URL]
Weisungsverbot = "instruction prohibition".
Clubs are quasi prohibited from telling anything to girls regarding pricing and service.[/QUOTE]I can confirm this 100%. Of course the law says also that oral sex without condom is forbidden. And we know what really happens in the room.
So even if the club couldn't actually tell the girls what to do, wear, or what service they should provide. Well, the reality is another. Girls that want to work in a certain club would never quote the prostitution law to the owner. Or they can walk and look for another job somewhere else.
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Saturday early afternoon
First, 100-euro session with Brenda. Good session as usual. Brenda has put on a wee little bit of fat but you can see that the fat has no hold on her and is fighting a losing battle.
Second session was with a tallish girl called Maria. She wanted +50 for "licking" while in doggy. I agreed. She sure could move. Not sure I'd repeat given the +50.
Third, 100-euro session with "Liz".
I'll repeat with Brenda on a future visit.
There was a ravishingly beautiful spinner with aspirin-white skin and curly, raven-black hair. Perfect face. She intimidated many men, including myself. I think she relished in men gazing and being too shy to proposition her, even if it meant she was not doing any rooms.
Stayed at Holiday Inn Express IHG, 3. 7 km from Sharks. Parking on site is available but nerve-racking. There are no in-room safes. You can leave valuables in a safe at reception. It took ages to inventory my valuables. I had to explain why I was also leaving a minoxidil spray in the safe (I was doing this to make sure not to forget to collect my things upon leaving the hotel the next morning).
I don't think the Sharks line-up is now any better or any worse than it was pre-covid.
I was lucky today was not a hot day. Why don't clubs like this fit ALL their rooms with air-conditioners? Overheads are no excuse any more when you read this:
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/european-electricity-prices-tumble-negative-035850629.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2837356]I can confirm this 100%. Of course the law says also that oral sex without condom is forbidden. And we know what really happens in the room.
So even if the club couldn't actually tell the girls what to do, wear, or what service they should provide. Well, the reality is another. Girls that want to work in a certain club would never quote the prostitution law to the owner. Or they can walk and look for another job somewhere else.[/QUOTE]Some quite new girls follow what Sharks ask, like Cami or Kamila and they don t seem to be on the lowest level when they are half rate than some.
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Getting to Frankfurt late
Hello, I am visiting FKK sharks soon and I'm staying in Frankfurt. Can I take an Uber back at 3 am? Are there Ubers available?
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Uber from Sharks
[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2837468]Hello, I am visiting FKK sharks soon and I'm staying in Frankfurt. Can I take an Uber back at 3 am? Are there Ubers available?[/QUOTE]Uber is tricky in Germany. App works but they sometimes show super-long waiting time (30 min-1 hour or longer) depending on time / location. Last time I couldn't get Uber from Sharks. App called "Freenow" works much better in Germany but it costs 2-3 times. Alternatively, there is almost always taxi waiting outside Sharks, or Sharks front desk can call taxi cab too.
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Kim Kardashian
[QUOTE=VonSauer;2836229]First time back to Sharks since COVID.
Unfortunately although the number of girls was huge, there was little diversity in the girls. Couldn't find a single young natural looking cutie or girl next door type and most looked like Kim Kardashian wanabees with heavy make up around the eyes. Most had dark hair and dark eyes and didn't see any natural blonde and barely any light brunette type..[/QUOTE]Thank you for interesting report. Kim Kardashian, LOL, I always felt same way.
I am no expert compared to other users in this forum, but I never found a single young natural looking cutie at Sharks in 2023.
In my experience this year, Oase and Samya have 2-3 young blond girl next door type if you visit multiple times. But not in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Jwon3239;2837468]Hello, I am visiting FKK sharks soon and I'm staying in Frankfurt. Can I take an Uber back at 3 am? Are there Ubers available?[/QUOTE]Taxis on parking.
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For who asked, small blond with average face with piercing, Lola is at Sharks under screen below jacuzzi. Sena is back. Nevertheless, very average casting at the moment, far below my German now escorting.
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Kitty
Anyone seen Kitty lately? Did she quit the business? Have not seen her since March.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2837379]
There was a ravishingly beautiful spinner with aspirin-white skin and curly, raven-black hair. Perfect face. She intimidated many men, including myself. I think she relished in men gazing and being too shy to proposition her, even if it meant she was not doing any rooms.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for a great and useful report XXL as always. Any idea who this ravishingly beautiful girl is anyone? So is 100 euros for 30 min the standard rate now in Sharks for sex including DFK and BBBJ?
I'm planning and visit and trying to decide between the Zürich clubs and the ones around Frankfurt including Sharks.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2837379]First, 100-euro session with Brenda. Good session as usual. Brenda has put on a wee little bit of fat but you can see that the fat has no hold on her and is fighting a losing battle.
Second session was with a tallish girl called Maria. She wanted +50 for "licking" while in doggy. I agreed. She sure could move. Not sure I'd repeat given the +50.
Third, 100-euro session with "Liz".
I'll repeat with Brenda on a future visit.
There was a ravishingly beautiful spinner with aspirin-white skin and curly, raven-black hair. Perfect face. She intimidated many men, including myself. I think she relished in men gazing and being too shy to proposition her, even if it meant she was not doing any rooms.
Stayed at Holiday Inn Express IHG, 3. 7 km from Sharks. Parking on site is available but nerve-racking. There are no in-room safes. You can leave valuables in a safe at reception. It took ages to inventory my valuables. I had to explain why I was also leaving a minoxidil spray in the safe (I was doing this to make sure not to forget to collect my things upon leaving the hotel the next morning).
I don't think the Sharks line-up is now any better or any worse than it was pre-covid.
I was lucky today was not a hot day. Why don't clubs like this fit ALL their rooms with air-conditioners? Overheads are no excuse any more when you read this:
[URL]https://finance.yahoo.com/news/european-electricity-prices-tumble-negative-035850629.html[/URL][/QUOTE]It makes no sense to me that men don't approach the women they think are beautiful in a brothel. I always pick the best looking one to me at the moment unless I am just interested in something different. I never understood the thing about people thinking they get better service by the less attractive ones. I can't help but think that is all in people's heads. I pick the most beautiful and tell the woman she is the most beautiful.
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[QUOTE=Sebastiane;2837894]Thanks for a great and useful report XXL as always. Any idea who this ravishingly beautiful girl is anyone? So is 100 euros for 30 min the standard rate now in Sharks for sex including DFK and BBBJ?
I'm planning and visit and trying to decide between the Zrich clubs and the ones around Frankfurt including Sharks.[/QUOTE]Sharks casting was not at best on this Saturday evening at 9 pm, even Sena is back with new style. No Kity, no Evita, 2 Germans missing, 0 room for me when I won t pay for a Lola look or some who would not be interesting for me. Some ask 150/30 to kiss, can try grocery but I never, when money talk kill my GFE I need to enjoy. Funny, some who got almost no business since years, get business now, maybe lower competition.
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New girl Dolly
Any news on a new girl named Dolly? I heard from a friend she was problematic in the room. A negotiated CIM turned out to be a handjob + CIM finish rather than the normal BJ + CIM finish for the extra 50.
BJ + CIM finish is now 70 extra = 170 for 30 minutes.
Anyone else experience this?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2838016]Sharks casting was not at best on this Saturday evening at 9 pm, even Sena is back with new style. No Kity, no Evita, 2 Germans missing, 0 room for me when I won t pay for a Lola look or some who would not be interesting for me. Some ask 150/30 to kiss, can try grocery but I never, when money talk kill my GFE I need to enjoy. Funny, some who got almost no business since years, get business now, maybe lower competition.[/QUOTE]Evita coming back? I'll be surprised since she quit the business and decided never to come back.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2838205]Evita coming back? I'll be surprised since she quit the business and decided never to come back.[/QUOTE]I wrote no Evita when one asked about her not long ago. Maybe she would be back at Oase, following Cosmina.
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Sharks lineup
It has been a while since sharks. Does anyone know if amalia, daisy, or ruby still working?
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2838178]Any news on a new girl named Dolly? I heard from a friend she was problematic in the room. A negotiated CIM turned out to be a handjob + CIM finish rather than the normal BJ + CIM finish for the extra 50.
BJ + CIM finish is now 70 extra = 170 for 30 minutes.
Anyone else experience this?[/QUOTE]For CIM, girls have to have You in their mouth, not finishing You in hand. Same like FK is with real tongue contact, not just kiss on lips or like a fish with opened mouth. No need to put tongue in throat, like kissed me for 15 mn Globe superstar, Finnish Ekaterina. It was good for cardio, when could hardly breathe. I m not interestef by CIM, I prefer to fuck, too much for little Romanians with small pussy.
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[QUOTE=CsManCs;2838251]It has been a while since sharks. Does anyone know if amalia, daisy, or ruby still working?[/QUOTE]No for German Daisi ex Palace, yes for Rubi with glasses at the bar close to restaurant. No more Elif and Amalia since a while.
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Anal at sharks?
Hey fellows,
I've been doing my research on the board and been reading alot of the recent info at sharks.
I want to plan a trip for October but I just want to know, is Anal regularly offered at sharks? Or any of the other nearby FKK's in Frankfurt. Any info will be appreciated. I'm a Anal type of fella.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2837910]It makes no sense to me that men don't approach the women they think are beautiful in a brothel. I always pick the best looking one to me at the moment unless I am just interested in something different. I never understood the thing about people thinking they get better service by the less attractive ones. I can't help but think that is all in people's heads. I pick the most beautiful and tell the woman she is the most beautiful.[/QUOTE]Some very beautiful girl, who has no problem getting customers can be very picky. I saw some girls rejected many men unless men approach them at the right timing. Some girls also reject based on race. So I see why some people are cautious.
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Kitty
[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2837889]Anyone seen Kitty lately? Did she quit the business? Have not seen her since March.[/QUOTE]Multiple people said that no one saw her since March or April 2023. Probably she retired with all the money she earned?
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[QUOTE=BabyBoy4300;2838475]Hey fellows,
I've been doing my research on the board and been reading alot of the recent info at sharks.
I want to plan a trip for October but I just want to know, is Anal regularly offered at sharks? Or any of the other nearby FKK's in Frankfurt. Any info will be appreciated. I'm a Anal type of fella.[/QUOTE]Blond silicon slim Anastasia ex Oase. Maybe also silicon small blond Miriam ex Estefania Oase, when Nadine stopped the job. Of course, depending on your size when no Globe girl never proposed me even for extra 200 or 300 .
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[QUOTE=BabyBoy4300;2838475]Hey fellows,
I've been doing my research on the board and been reading alot of the recent info at sharks.
I want to plan a trip for October but I just want to know, is Anal regularly offered at sharks? Or any of the other nearby FKK's in Frankfurt. Any info will be appreciated. I'm a Anal type of fella.[/QUOTE]Some girls will, some won't. The ones that usually do may not offer it to everyone. Just ask. An extra fee applies of course.
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[QUOTE=BabyBoy4300;2838475]Hey fellows,
I've been doing my research on the board and been reading alot of the recent info at sharks.
I want to plan a trip for October but I just want to know, is Anal regularly offered at sharks? Or any of the other nearby FKK's in Frankfurt. Any info will be appreciated. I'm a Anal type of fella.[/QUOTE]Don't expect much Anal action in FKKs including Sharks. Some will offer it but even when they do eventually they will tell you it hurts too much when you are not even 1 cm or find some excuses to make you give up.
They will still ask for the additional price though.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2838489]Some very beautiful girl, who has no problem getting customers can be very picky. I saw some girls rejected many men unless men approach them at the right timing. Some girls also reject based on race. So I see why some people are cautious.[/QUOTE]Some girls reject men if they know they have a big dick similar to what happens in Asia. This does not happen in Latin America.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2837889]Anyone seen Kitty lately? Did she quit the business? Have not seen her since March.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=David1266;2838491]Multiple people said that no one saw her since March or April 2023. Probably she retired with all the money she earned?[/QUOTE]If this is the same Kitty, beautiful, blonde, kinda tall and slender with bitchy queen bee vibes sitting on the couch right next to the bar and overlooking the staircase leading upstairs to jacuzzi area, then I saw her in exactly mid April. She was the first one I took during my 3 days spree at Sharks. I saw her on at least two of the three days that I was there.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2838491]Multiple people said that no one saw her since March or April 2023. Probably she retired with all the money she earned?[/QUOTE]She was not full busy and I don't think she got many locals or Sharks regulars, but her immaculate body is pleasure for eyes, when average for sex and low GFE, despite higher than average potential and stamina for vagina. Not a small pussy compare to some who are taller.
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Kitty used another name "Denise" before covid19. Even at that time she charged 150/60. She was very arrogant and always upset customers. I never enjoyed her service. And she also stole time.
Some people saw her from September 2022 to this April. She earned 1500-2000 euros each day. So within eight months, she already earned at least a quarter million euros to Her pimp or BF. She might NOT come back anytime sooner.
[QUOTE=SinnerDeeds;2838608]If this is the same Kitty, beautiful, blonde, kinda tall and slender with bitchy queen bee vibes sitting on the couch right next to the bar and overlooking the staircase leading upstairs to jacuzzi area, then I saw her in exactly mid April. She was the first one I took during my 3 days spree at Sharks. I saw her on at least two of the three days that I was there.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2838593]Some girls reject men if they know they have a big dick similar to what happens in Asia. This does not happen in Latin America.[/QUOTE]Funny at Sharks, claimed French but speaking Romanian with Romanians Emili told me some Romanians told her I fuck too much, when not many Romanians at Sharks on 2023 experienced my cardio able to climb Zoncolan or Mortirolo, so they can t know, but meaning many little Romanians types prefer easier like small size or not looking sporty. Kity surprised me on fucking with no limit, but she was not interesting about GFE I need to enjoy. She often sit waiting.
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[QUOTE=VonSauer;2838588]Don't expect much Anal action in FKKs including Sharks. Some will offer it but even when they do eventually they will tell you it hurts too much when you are not even 1 cm or find some excuses to make you give up.
They will still ask for the additional price though.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the input fellas.
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Hey people, anyone in the frankfurt / darmstadt area with viagra pills that I could buy? Only in the original packaging obviously.
I contacted and bought from someone that was recommended but he is from the UK and I haven't received anything 2 weeks later. Bad choice.
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Layover Report
I had an 11 HR layover Sunday in Frankfurt and spent it in Sharks. After an hour in transport I arrived. I was so horny I was willing to go with almost any girl I saw, even the receptionist looked good to me. However after the initial shock went away and I had few drinks I calmed down a bit.
I went to my first room with an 18 year old with glasses. White soft skin, nice body, perky tits and very tight pussy. She was not very experienced and had a hard time taking me all in. After a bit she started complaining I was going too hard. I am surprised a girl working in this profession can be this tight but she was obviously been doing this for few days only. Opted for CIM for extra 100 (she will not take any less and I really wanted to do CIM for my first and biggest shot). It was a massive shot and she gagged on it and puled out before I fully finish then most went on her face and chest and it was hot af.
Second room with another young dark Romanian. Nothing special but agreed for anal for +100. Started with very deep kissing. She did this thing where she kept licking my tongue continuously, but I did not liked it much. After an OK BJ I went down on her. Pussy and ass tasted good. Started fucking in CG and rcg. She then applied lupe and slid me into her ass. She said she liked this position and fucked me like that for a bit. Went back to missionary and then back to anal. I already finished once so was able to keep fucking her ass without finishing until I got tired and started sweating. I told her no need to finish and she was a bit disappointed and tried to talk me into finishing, but I still had hours to kill.
Approached by two vulturing duos. Usually I never go with these types but decided to try my luck. Agreed for 200 each with a les show. It was very unoriginal but they seemed to enjoy it. Started fucking and I lined them next to each other in missionary and then doggy. After that I asked for anal and they hesitated. Obviously they didn't want to do it in front of each other. Eventually money talked and I got one of them to do it. Really enjoyed fucking her ass doggy while her friend was watching the action very keenly. I took off the rubber and finished with an explosive shot on her ass cheek while kissing and fingering the other girl. It was expensive but was the best orgasm I had in a while.
I still had time and money, but was not really turned on anymore. Decided to goof around. Observed a group of girls giggling on the couch and asked one of them for a room. We kissed, licked, fucked for about 15 minutes, then I ended the session. After showering I waited for her to go back to her group and picked another girl from the same group. And again after we finished I went to the same group and picked a third girl. So fucked 3 of them in less than an hour. That gave them a laugh and the last girl was very sweet and I fed her my last load for the night.
Finally I ran out of time, energy and money. Went back to the airport and was surprised that I was still getting hard thinking about how I fucked 7 young girls in less than 10 hrs. FKKs are wild If we had them in the US there will probably be less shootings and more fucking.
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[QUOTE=VonSauer;2838588]Don't expect much Anal action in FKKs including Sharks. Some will offer it but even when they do eventually they will tell you it hurts too much when you are not even 1 cm or find some excuses to make you give up.
They will still ask for the additional price though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]38BabyBoy4300
Hey fellows,
I've been doing my research on the board and been reading alot of the recent info at sharks.
I want to plan a trip for October but I just want to know, is Anal regularly offered at sharks? Or any of the other nearby FKK's in Frankfurt. Any info will be appreciated. I'm a Anal type of fella.
[/QUOTE] Personally i've had great anal experiences in many FKKs. There's a few who say yes then try and make excuses but for the most part I've enjoyed great and vigorous back door fun over the years. It's no different than any other experience in an FKK. Asking at the very start of negotiations will definitely give you a sense of their willingness.
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Thank you man
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2838896]Personally i've had great anal experiences in many FKKs. There's a few who say yes then try and make excuses but for the most part I've enjoyed great and vigorous back door fun over the years. It's no different than any other experience in an FKK. Asking at the very start of negotiations will definitely give you a sense of their willingness.[/QUOTE]Thank you my brother, you've gave me great hope.
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True legend
[QUOTE=SinnerBad;2838863]I had an 11 HR layover Sunday in Frankfurt and spent it in Sharks. After an hour in transport I arrived. I was so horny I was willing to go with almost any girl I saw, even the receptionist looked good to me. However after the initial shock went away and I had few drinks I calmed down a bit.
I went to my first room with an 18 year old with glasses. White soft skin, nice body, perky tits and very tight pussy. She was not very experienced and had a hard time taking me all in. After a bit she started complaining I was going too hard. I am surprised a girl working in this profession can be this tight but she was obviously been doing this for few days only. Opted for CIM for extra 100 (she will not take any less and I really wanted to do CIM for my first and biggest shot). It was a massive shot and she gagged on it and puled out before I fully finish then most went on her face and chest and it was hot af.
Second room with another young dark Romanian. Nothing special but agreed for anal for +100. Started with very deep kissing. She did this thing where she kept licking my tongue continuously, but I did not liked it much. After an OK BJ I went down on her. Pussy and ass tasted good. Started fucking in CG and rcg. She then applied lupe and slid me into her ass. She said she liked this position and fucked me like that for a bit. Went back to missionary and then back to anal. I already finished once so was able to keep fucking her ass without finishing until I got tired and started sweating. I told her no need to finish and she was a bit disappointed and tried to talk me into finishing, but I still had hours to kill.
Approached by two vulturing duos. Usually I never go with these types but decided to try my luck. Agreed for 200 each with a les show. It was very unoriginal but they seemed to enjoy it. Started fucking and I lined them next to each other in missionary and then doggy. After that I asked for anal and they hesitated. Obviously they didn't want to do it in front of each other. Eventually money talked and I got one of them to do it. Really enjoyed fucking her ass doggy while her friend was watching the action very keenly. I took off the rubber and finished with an explosive shot on her ass cheek while kissing and fingering the other girl. It was expensive but was the best orgasm I had in a while.
I still had time and money, but was not really turned on anymore. Decided to goof around. Observed a group of girls giggling on the couch and asked one of them for a room. We kissed, licked, fucked for about 15 minutes, then I ended the session. After showering I waited for her to go back to her group and picked another girl from the same group. And again after we finished I went to the same group and picked a third girl. So fucked 3 of them in less than an hour. That gave them a laugh and the last girl was very sweet and I fed her my last load for the night.
Finally I ran out of time, energy and money. Went back to the airport and was surprised that I was still getting hard thinking about how I fucked 7 young girls in less than 10 hrs. FKKs are wild If we had them in the US there will probably be less shootings and more fucking.[/QUOTE]Fuckin awesome report. Just awesome! The way a life should be lived.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2838779]Kitty used another name "Denise" before covid19. Even at that time she charged 150/60. She was very arrogant and always upset customers. I never enjoyed her service. And she also stole time.
Some people saw her from September 2022 to this April. She earned 1500-2000 euros each day. So within eight months, she already earned at least a quarter million euros to Her pimp or BF. She might NOT come back anytime sooner.[/QUOTE]Did you count her money? When she made almost 30 mn rooms, for 100 for me when I didn't need to extend from her low GFE level, but she was honest and higher vagina potential than most, even taller, at Sharks, just not GFE enough for me. I doubt she made more than 1000 on week ends, when not so busy, but sitting waiting. She could have been a superstar in any club, even Globe, if on higher level in bed.
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[QUOTE=SinnerBad;2838863]I had an 11 HR layover Sunday in Frankfurt and spent it in Sharks. After an hour in transport I arrived. I was so horny I was willing to go with almost any girl I saw, even the receptionist looked good to me. However after the initial shock went away and I had few drinks I calmed down a bit.
I went to my first room with an 18 year old with glasses. White soft skin, nice body, perky tits and very tight pussy. She was not very experienced and had a hard time taking me all in. After a bit she started complaining I was going too hard. I am surprised a girl working in this profession can be this tight but she was obviously been doing this for few days only. Opted for CIM for extra 100 (she will not take any less and I really wanted to do CIM for my first and biggest shot). It was a massive shot and she gagged on it and puled out before I fully finish then most went on her face and chest and it was hot af.
Second room with another young dark Romanian. Nothing special but agreed for anal for +100. Started with very deep kissing. She did this thing where she kept licking my tongue continuously, but I did not liked it much. After an OK BJ I went down on her. Pussy and ass tasted good. Started fucking in CG and rcg. She then applied lupe and slid me into her ass. She said she liked this position and fucked me like that for a bit. Went back to missionary and then back to anal. I already finished once so was able to keep fucking her ass without finishing until I got tired and started sweating. I told her no need to finish and she was a bit disappointed and tried to talk me into finishing, but I still had hours to kill.
Approached by two vulturing duos. Usually I never go with these types but decided to try my luck. Agreed for 200 each with a les show. It was very unoriginal but they seemed to enjoy it. Started fucking and I lined them next to each other in missionary and then doggy. After that I asked for anal and they hesitated. Obviously they didn't want to do it in front of each other. Eventually money talked and I got one of them to do it. Really enjoyed fucking her ass doggy while her friend was watching the action very keenly. I took off the rubber and finished with an explosive shot on her ass cheek while kissing and fingering the other girl. It was expensive but was the best orgasm I had in a while.
I still had time and money, but was not really turned on anymore. Decided to goof around. Observed a group of girls giggling on the couch and asked one of them for a room. We kissed, licked, fucked for about 15 minutes, then I ended the session. After showering I waited for her to go back to her group and picked another girl from the same group. And again after we finished I went to the same group and picked a third girl. So fucked 3 of them in less than an hour. That gave them a laugh and the last girl was very sweet and I fed her my last load for the night.
Finally I ran out of time, energy and money. Went back to the airport and was surprised that I was still getting hard thinking about how I fucked 7 young girls in less than 10 hrs. FKKs are wild If we had them in the US there will probably be less shootings and more fucking.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Four orgasms in 11 hours with 7 girls!
200 first girl.
200 second girl.
200 x 2 + 150 duo and anal.
100 x 3.
So $1250?
You did pretty well!
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Me too!
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2838896]Personally i've had great anal experiences in many FKKs. There's a few who say yes then try and make excuses but for the most part I've enjoyed great and vigorous back door fun over the years. It's no different than any other experience in an FKK. Asking at the very start of negotiations will definitely give you a sense of their willingness.[/QUOTE]Fucked so many pretty girls in the ass all over Germany! Never, ever go with a girl who says "maybe" if you really want anal. Those are tutes who aren't committed to the act and the ones who are most likely to renege and do all they can to avoid surrendering the booty hole after you've already taken them to the zimmer.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2838779]Kitty used another name "Denise" before covid19. Even at that time she charged 150/60. She was very arrogant and always upset customers. I never enjoyed her service. And she also stole time.
Some people saw her from September 2022 to this April. She earned 1500-2000 euros each day. So within eight months, she already earned at least a quarter million euros to Her pimp or BF. She might NOT come back anytime sooner.[/QUOTE]
Did you count her money? When she made almost 30 mn rooms, for 100 for me when I didn't need to extend from her low GFE level, but she was honest and higher vagina potential than most, even taller, at Sharks, just not GFE enough for me. I doubt she made more than 1000 on week ends, when not so busy, but sitting waiting. She could have been a superstar in any club, even Globe, if on higher level in bed.[/QUOTE]When Kitty / Denise still was my favorite last November, I booked her twice, 2-3 hours each time and paid her 200/ hour. One night she rejected to go with me because one customer bought all her time that night. So it seemed that Kitty sat there "without business" but she still got paid from someone. It happened many times. She once told me her daily charge would be 1500 euro (from 2 pm-11 pm) during weekdays. Weekend could be higher I assume.
She had lots of Asians customers. Some Indian people if they could offer her 200/60. Not many young locals go with her.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2838593]Some girls reject men if they know they have a big dick similar to what happens in Asia. This does not happen in Latin America.[/QUOTE]I think some men get rejected for being huge in general because it can be scary. Being a gymnast or horse jockey is less scary than the other end of the spectrum when you are dealing with people you don't know. I say this because I heard a big guy on the plane say the women in the RLD in Amsterdam would not see him. I have also seen another big guy get rejected in the RLD in Frankfurt and it was because he was huge. She basically shut her door when she saw him. I have basically never been rejected. I chalk it up to being non threatening and ordinary but what do I know.
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[QUOTE=SinnerBad;2838863]I had an 11 HR layover Sunday in Frankfurt and spent it in Sharks. After an hour in transport I arrived. I was so horny I was willing to go with almost any girl I saw, even the receptionist looked good to me. However after the initial shock went away and I had few drinks I calmed down a bit.
I went to my first room with an 18 year old with glasses. White soft skin, nice body, perky tits and very tight pussy. She was not very experienced and had a hard time taking me all in. After a bit she started complaining I was going too hard. I am surprised a girl working in this profession can be this tight but she was obviously been doing this for few days only. Opted for CIM for extra 100 (she will not take any less and I really wanted to do CIM for my first and biggest shot). It was a massive shot and she gagged on it and puled out before I fully finish then most went on her face and chest and it was hot af.
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Finally I ran out of time, energy and money. Went back to the airport and was surprised that I was still getting hard thinking about how I fucked 7 young girls in less than 10 hrs. FKKs are wild If we had them in the US there will probably be less shootings and more fucking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for nice funny report and dropping so much money. Customer like you saves FKK. I do agree that exporting FKK in Middle East and USA and Russia (all prohibit prostitution) will significantly reduce terrorism, war, gun violence problem.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2838983]When Kitty / Denise still was my favorite last November, I booked her twice, 2-3 hours each time and paid her 200/ hour. One night she rejected to go with me because one customer bought all her time that night. So it seemed that Kitty sat there "without business" but she still got paid from someone. It happened many times. She once told me her daily charge would be 1500 euro (from 2 pm-11 pm) during weekdays. Weekend could be higher I assume.
[/QUOTE]I do believe that the popular girl make about quarter million / year. Kitty was one of the prettiest at Sharks in 2023. But before 2017, there were much prettier girls at Palace and other FKK and the 2017 law really changed everything. In most FKK now, I often find a "normal" German girl working at reception desk is prettier than all working girls.
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[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2838983]When Kitty / Denise still was my favorite last November, I booked her twice, 2-3 hours each time and paid her 200/ hour. One night she rejected to go with me because one customer bought all her time that night. So it seemed that Kitty sat there "without business" but she still got paid from someone. It happened many times. She once told me her daily charge would be 1500 euro (from 2 pm-11 pm) during weekdays. Weekend could be higher I assume.
She had lots of Asians customers. Some Indian people if they could offer her 200/60. Not many young locals go with her.[/QUOTE]If You believe all what girls say to value themselves when she would not say she waited since hours. I can t go on week but I didn t see her full busy on Friday or Saturday and I agree she was not a star among Germans. 100 was enough for her and only because of her immaculate beauty. But I regret she is missing, when she pleased my eyes, despite lips and not round enough ass. Some guys and some Germans pay very expensive for some girls, some paying more than 1000 .
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2838987]I think some men get rejected for being huge in general because it can be scary. Being a gymnast or horse jockey is less scary than the other end of the spectrum when you are dealing with people you don't know. I say this because I heard a big guy on the plane say the women in the RLD in Amsterdam would not see him. I have also seen another big guy get rejected in the RLD in Frankfurt and it was because he was huge. She basically shut her door when she saw him. I have basically never been rejected. I chalk it up to being non threatening and ordinary but what do I know.[/QUOTE]Nothing about weight, when I m not ready to play Sumo, but I prepare to fight versus gravity and Newton. Fat usually have small dick, same like body builders. Girls tell stories to others and there are also bullshiting guys like 555 multi profiles here, since 2015 , so I warned some girls: guys like this must have real problem to pay to bullshit about other guys.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2839005]I do believe that the popular girl make about quarter million / year. Kitty was one of the prettiest at Sharks in 2023. But before 2017, there were much prettier girls at Palace and other FKK and the 2017 law really changed everything. In most FKK now, I often find a "normal" German girl working at reception desk is prettier than all working girls.[/QUOTE]Can still find very pretty in FKK land and now rates at Sharks attract some beauties like Kity, Lora, Kloe, Valentina, Kasper. De, Snow white, who would be the prettiest at Globe, or Aphrodisia in Zurich city. This is what make Sharks interesting for me, when Kity would be among prettiest in any club, but very average for Caucasian not Turkish nor Albanian sex.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2839014]Nothing about weight, when I m not ready to play Sumo, but I prepare to fight versus gravity and Newton. Fat usually have small dick, same like body builders. Girls tell stories to others and there are also bullshiting guys like 555 multi profiles here, since 2015 , so I warned some girls: guys like this must have real problem to pay to bullshit about other guys.[/QUOTE]Maybe they assumed it was big because of body size. I can only recall three guys getting rejected. They were two huge guys who were not fat, and there was also a midget. I did get a woman mad at me for doing her too hard once when I was younger. She would not have repeated. I was just enjoying it.
I have heard 6 inches is average. Even slightly bigger than that is seen as big by some women but not most. Maybe they only think it is big on someone the size of a horse jockey. I know they talk both good and bad. I have been famous for being both good and bad. I used to be slightly above average but I am also a grower and not a shower. I also stayed up afterward. I could have a orgasm three times in 30 minutes. I was famous in South America for that for a while.
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[QUOTE=SinnerBad;2838863]FKKs are wild If we had them in the US there will probably be less shootings and more fucking.[/QUOTE]AMEN to that! (Great report).
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2839144]Maybe they assumed it was big because of body size. I can only recall three guys getting rejected. They were two huge guys who were not fat, and there was also a midget. I did get a woman mad at me for doing her too hard once when I was younger. She would not have repeated. I was just enjoying it.
I have heard 6 inches is average. Even slightly bigger than that is seen as big by some women but not most. Maybe they only think it is big on someone the size of a horse jockey. I know they talk both good and bad. I have been famous for being both good and bad. I used to be slightly above average but I am also a grower and not a shower. I also stayed up afterward. I could have a orgasm three times in 30 minutes. I was famous in South America for that for a while.[/QUOTE]Girls will avoid if they think You will be too difficult for them or were told stories by other girls or past kind of pimp at Sharks. When they think Asians are easy, same for very old, or young who finish fast, when they are able to switch off brain to kiss, suck, fuck with uglies, fat, bald, I never insist, like I never negotiate, because killing GFE, so I prefer to give up, when I would not be able on bed if I felt the girl doesn t like me, then I would prefer to stop. Not long ago at Sharks, when I like her style and not many, when she was friendly, I asked her to stop after 2 minutes on bed, because I felt she was too professionnal for me, I apologized, she was very honest, tried to propose other services, but no GFE, she didn t ask me money. At Globe, I remember Sofia. Ro and superstar Joana. De, both were scared about me, for different reasons. At the end of our discovery and what I did, Sofia shouted in lounge to other girls: he is my love, all girls looking at me, when I wanted to hide in a hole. We repeated on many visits and on roof. During our discovery and how I treated her, Joana. De told me: now I know You, I will run to You, when she was a busy star booked on desk. After our discovery, she was booked. Just a bit more than 1 hour later, she returned to me and we repeated. At night, when we were showering together after repeating, she answered Balkanians who were looking at us showering together, not in a friendly way, when she was really sweet. On next time, when she turned natural brunette, I found more sexy in blond, she came straight to me and when I was less attracted, we had long time chatting in Mainhattan without ordering champagne, then room, then diner together, I felt it turned a bit too much for what I look for in FKK, emotions but not love, from a girl who was scared of me to become stuck to me on our second day, when not desperate for business, but a superstar when Globe was quality, not now expensive average little Romanians. This is FKK land where things can be up or down so fast, no truth for life, can be white today and black tomorrow, then next and I usually never return because magic is gone. I improved and made 2 exceptions, but both really worthing to return.
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For who asked, Ester silicon is still available in lounge. Many silicon, but some beautiful naturals I much prefer.
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[QUOTE=CsManCs;2838251]It has been a while since sharks. Does anyone know if amalia, daisy, or ruby still working?[/QUOTE]Amalia was in Switserland (Globe), I heard.
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[QUOTE=Mechelen;2839438]Amalia was in Switserland (Globe), I heard.[/QUOTE]I didn t see her at Globe, when her face and image don t worth 150 per 30 . Adriana returned from Globe, yesterday in black lingerie and stockings. Less and less girls are full naked like in real FKK, even warm, sweating at 11 pm on my 1 hour room finishing with pussy blood, You fuck hard told my German discovery who was busy with younger ones than me but they won t climb legends with me, You are kind she said on my foreplay for her first orgasmus when I was her fifth of her day, and not only one, making her so reactive interesting, even I could have discovered her 10 years ago on north. When I worried when she answered couldn t be period, she told no pain, only blood and kept on being busy whole night, when German part timer, were 3 yesterday, what make Sharks the most interesting potential on some days.
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Just a little info:
Yesterday Zoe rejected me cause I am writing in Forums like these.
If you want to fuck her, don't mention it.
Zoe, German girl, she said she is 21 (not true), tall, pale elfish type of girl with huge glasses and brunette-redish hair. Bracelets.
She sits in the back area at the pavilion where the little fuck cabins area (ex porn theater).
She refues to sit at the "german table" she thinks it is "retarded". Nice girl with gutter language, who knows if her rejection was a blessing for me.
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[QUOTE=Stuggi;2839570]Just a little info:
Yesterday Zoe rejected me cause I am writing in Forums like these.
......[/QUOTE]If she gave good service she would be happy for you to report that on this forum.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2839260]Girls will avoid if they think You will be too difficult for them or were told stories by other girls or past kind of pimp at Sharks. When they think Asians are easy, same for very old, or young who finish fast, when they are able to switch off brain to kiss, suck, fuck with uglies, fat, bald, I never insist, like I never negotiate, because killing GFE, so I prefer to give up, when I would not be able on bed if I felt the girl doesn t like me, then I would prefer to stop. [/QUOTE]You're not easy like the Asians but the girls don't run from you either. Is it because you're so charming and a sex god, they love the orgasms you give them?
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Sunday sausage fest
No parking spaces to be had. All parking spaces in the street were taken as well. Sharks used to have a second parking lot in a gravel plot across the street but that second parking lot is no more.
The club was full. M: F ratio 4:1. Think twice before visiting Sharks on week-ends, especially if you drive.
The black girls at Sharks illustrate the downfall of Oase. Sharks' black girls are doable, I even saw a superb tall ebony gazelle among them (she was taken though). Oase has 3 black girls but none I'd session for free.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2839651]No parking spaces to be had. All parking spaces in the street were taken as well. Sharks used to have a second parking lot in a gravel plot across the street but that second parking lot is no more.[/QUOTE]1. It was not Shark's. The owner is Schmackes Restaurant in the same street. They turned a blind eye to "our" cars for a while, but not anymore.
2. The area is still there, they just put a welded-wire door in front of the entrance. Obviously they are more ok with to block it for everyone, even for their own guests than to fight it out with police, in court or the almighty Ordnungsamt.
3. Weeds and other plants are growing there now, the new wildlife fauna maybe does its magic against climate change. : o).
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[QUOTE=XXL;2839651]No parking spaces to be had. All parking spaces in the street were taken as well. Sharks used to have a second parking lot in a gravel plot across the street but that second parking lot is no more.
The club was full. M: F ratio 4:1. Think twice before visiting Sharks on week-ends, especially if you drive.
The black girls at Sharks illustrate the downfall of Oase. Sharks' black girls are doable, I even saw a superb tall ebony gazelle among them (she was taken though). Oase has 3 black girls but none I'd session for free.[/QUOTE]On opening at 10 am, parking in front of building was fully empty. When slow business on day, many girls arrive around 7 pm, some at 10 pm. Girls are free to come and leave when they want, reason why some girls choose Sharks. I had a rare German paying entry 105, getting my 200/90 and leaving after our room when some Germans or locals asked her for room.
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Weekend at Sharks
Back to Sharks for two days before heading to Dubai.
Arrived at 3 pm on Saturday and 2 pm on Sunday. Realistically, it's useless to come before 4 pm. On Saturday, at 3 pm were maybe 10 girls, and that's the ones you don't want to session with. Except for Brenda which always is there early.
On Saturday, spotted all the usuals. Bibi, Mira, Brenda, Valentina, Catalea, Cami, Ramona, Lys, Chloe, Diana, Electra.
No Catalea on Sunday. Also many girls leave as early as 8 pm.
Bibi was the star on Saturday, doing back-to-back rooms. Sometimes she would be picked before reaching her spot (on the pole dance area), sometimes just 10 seconds after seating and sometimes after doing ONE lap around the couches.
Catalea was close second, with maybe 5 min sitting between rooms.
Valentina did the worst between the top girls, maybe had one or two rooms very late.
Went with Cami, Mira, Rosalie on Saturday and Valentina and Chloe on Sunday.
Cami is nice as always. It's always funny to hear her talking about herself at the third person.
Mira went full hooker. "What do you want?" - Kisses on lips. "How much do you want to pay me?" I didn't answer. In the room, she avoided me kissing her. Also cut the room short by 15 min. But I wasn't interested anymore despite her hot body and pretty face. Would not repeat.
Rosalie is a nice joyful girl with a hot body really trying to please. Too bad for the very hard large bolt-ONS.
Valentina has such a flawless tight body and those tits are perfection. But she was quite absent in the room, avoiding eye contact constantly. She just left for vacation, she says she doesn't know if she'll be back.
Chloe for-100-I-do-blowjob-and-sex-and-that's-all tried to make me cum quickly by aggressively fucking me in doggy. Joke's on her, I was in the room before, she just fucked herself hard for no reason. Ha. Nice tight slim body but too bossy.
I took a watch with me and I can say that no girls stayed 30 min, all got dressed up and ready to leave after the deed. I didn't care too much but keep that in mind.
My own sharks awards (as in, sirioja, I don't care what you think!
1) Top overall body: Bibi. Then Valentina, Catalea, Mira, friend-of-ramona-with-glasses (becky? Brenda. Honorable mentions: not-pretty-girl-with-glasses-and-hot-bod-and-snake-tatoo-on-hips, Lys.
2) Most beautiful face: Valentina. Then Catalea, Mira. Honorable mention: Lys.
3) Best boobs: Valentina, by far. So firm. Perfect shape. Just a delight to look at, wether she is sitting forward and letting them hang, leaning back and letting them collapse on her chest or shaking them.
4) Best ass: don't know, unlike tits, a lot of girls have great asses. Maybe Bibi and Mira.
5) Best fuck: Cami. She is very nice, clean, likes to try different position, seem to enjoy it, likes it hard. Reverse cowgirl is really nice.
I realized that despite Catalea's beauty, I'm not her biggest fan. I mean she's obviously a beautiful woman with a great body but I don't find her face the most attractive personally. Also I can't say why but I find she looks older than her age. I would give her 27-28, maybe it's the makeup.
It's funny also how all these girls look like girl next door when they go back in civilian clothes. Except for Valentina and Catalea who look even hotter as civilians.
Also I'm terrible at judging these girls height without shoes so seeing them come in the club or leave without the mountain-high-heels is so weird (I'm 1 m87 so except for Catalea, other girls look way smaller).
There was a cute woman with short hair and the widest hips imaginable to man. With a very big ass to match. Everytime I saw her, there was only one word coming to my mind: "fertile".
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[QUOTE=XXL;2839651]No parking spaces to be had. All parking spaces in the street were taken as well. Sharks used to have a second parking lot in a gravel plot across the street but that second parking lot is no more.
The club was full. M: F ratio 4:1. Think twice before visiting Sharks on week-ends, especially if you drive.
The black girls at Sharks illustrate the downfall of Oase. Sharks' black girls are doable, I even saw a superb tall ebony gazelle among them (she was taken though). Oase has 3 black girls but none I'd session for free.[/QUOTE]More M than F? ?
That is new to me.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2839730]More M than F? ?
That is new to me.[/QUOTE]I agree with XXL, it wasn't good this weekend. Only handful new faces and non of them are hot. Little depressing lineup with a lot of trashy girls. Club desperately needs new talents.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2839714]
Cami is nice as always. It's always funny to hear her talking about herself at the third person. [/QUOTE]Quote from her yesterday. "Cami not come Monday. Cami come Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. ".
The very first time I made an appointment with her 2 months ago, she approached me at the appointed time saying " Cum me here". And I pondered whether she wanted sex in the open there and then!
Questions for you or others please:
1 Who is the very pretty, short, slim dark-haired girl who only appears every 2 hours to go to the bar to collect drinks to bring back to the room downstairs? Does not even do rounds.
2 Is one allowed to go talk to Kendra who is stuck to a guy wearing Sauna towel the whole evening?
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[QUOTE=XXL;2839651]
The club was full. M: F ratio 4:1. Think twice before visiting Sharks on week-ends, especially if you drive.
The black girls at Sharks illustrate the downfall of Oase. Sharks' black girls are doable, I even saw a superb tall ebony gazelle among them (she was taken though). Oase has 3 black girls but none I'd session for free.[/QUOTE]I estimate the ratio as closer to 2:1 yesterday.
At noon, it was about 30 men 15 girls.
At 9 pm, it was about 80 men 50 girls.
As for the black girls, unfortuntely I did not spot the tall gazelle. However, there was a reasonably slim one (Kisha from Kenya) but about the same size as the rest. She was sitting most of the time.
One black girl looked strange with hair that was half blonde. And there was a reasonably pretty Caucasian gazelle sitting with the other black girls the whole day and night. Anyone knows her name? I was keen to talk to her, but she was always shielded by the black girls when I tried to approach her. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2839647]You're not easy like the Asians but the girls don't run from you either. Is it because you're so charming and a sex god, they love the orgasms you give them?[/QUOTE]Funny, many Sharks girls think I never go to room, when I don t go with them because I m not attracted or don t think they worth their rate, but when I find one attractive for my standards, then I usually don t go for only fast 30 mn. I extended to 90 mn with rare snow white. On this Saturday, when I find since 2022 Romanians fell for quality except at Freubad and Swiss, compare to quality I got with many before, when I used to prefer Romanians than Germans, but I m now more into and got great Germans, more GFE than some robots before, since 2022 and when I found her sexy exciting woman type but thought Turkish, but when she told me German, when I m lucky with Germans since 2022 . Despite long time in business, but very fast she followed me, I loved her whole body shaking and honey taste, her nipples growing hardening, even not so pointing than Bibi or Katalea, but nobody wrote for same reaction, so I might be the only one to experience their reaction under my way with them. After her pussy blood, when she thought I was doctor from what I told her about her anatomy, she proposed me to chill on bed for last few minutes and even over 1 hour. Hard fucking she said, when I was really not on maximum, when I just start my sporty Summer, but really no rush after our sex. She did worth 180/60 she asked, I didn t negotiate, not to kill pleasure she gave to my eyes, mind and I got with her, but no other seen worthing such rate on this Saturday between 11 am and 1. 30 am, when lovely behavior Aisha is not woman image enough for me. A while, I didn t have a room on my Sharks visits. Snow white who moved to escorting is big loss, when she did worth 200/90 for such fresh rare true GFE German.
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Zoe, milky skin with glasses often with a black girl, sitting under jacuzzis mezzanine. For sure, no crowd on early Sunday.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2839734]I agree with XXL, it wasn't good this weekend. Only handful new faces and non of them are hot. Little depressing lineup with a lot of trashy girls. Club desperately needs new talents.[/QUOTE]I liked Aisha, lovely Alina, Sabrina and Sena. Mira is super sexy but too professionnal. Kamila is friendly. 3 German part timer with 1 really desirable for me for 1 very full hour on Saturday evening. Much better than on previous week ends on July. Also Celine ex Oase.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2839714]Back to Sharks for two days before heading to Dubai.
Arrived at 3 pm on Saturday and 2 pm on Sunday. Realistically, it's useless to come before 4 pm. On Saturday, at 3 pm were maybe 10 girls, and that's the ones you don't want to session with. Except for Brenda which always is there early.
On Saturday, spotted all the usuals. Bibi, Mira, Brenda, Valentina, Catalea, Cami, Ramona, Lys, Chloe, Diana, Electra.
No Catalea on Sunday. Also many girls leave as early as 8 pm.
Bibi was the star on Saturday, doing back-to-back rooms. Sometimes she would be picked before reaching her spot (on the pole dance area), sometimes just 10 seconds after seating and sometimes after doing ONE lap around the couches.
Catalea was close second, with maybe 5 min sitting between rooms.
Valentina did the worst between the top girls, maybe had one or two rooms very late.
Went with Cami, Mira, Rosalie on Saturday and Valentina and Chloe on Sunday.
Cami is nice as always. It's always funny to hear her talking about herself at the third person.
Mira went full hooker. "What do you want?" - Kisses on lips. "How much do you want to pay me?" I didn't answer. In the room, she avoided me kissing her. Also cut the room short by 15 min. But I wasn't interested anymore despite her hot body and pretty face. Would not repeat.
Rosalie is a nice joyful girl with a hot body really trying to please. Too bad for the very hard large bolt-ONS.
Valentina has such a flawless tight body and those tits are perfection. But she was quite absent in the room, avoiding eye contact constantly. She just left for vacation, she says she doesn't know if she'll be back.
Chloe for-100-I-do-blowjob-and-sex-and-that's-all tried to make me cum quickly by aggressively fucking me in doggy. Joke's on her, I was in the room before, she just fucked herself hard for no reason. Ha. Nice tight slim body but too bossy.
I took a watch with me and I can say that no girls stayed 30 min, all got dressed up and ready to leave after the deed. I didn't care too much but keep that in mind.
My own sharks awards (as in, sirioja, I don't care what you think!
1) Top overall body: Bibi. Then Valentina, Catalea, Mira, friend-of-ramona-with-glasses (becky? Brenda. Honorable mentions: not-pretty-girl-with-glasses-and-hot-bod-and-snake-tatoo-on-hips, Lys.
2) Most beautiful face: Valentina. Then Catalea, Mira. Honorable mention: Lys.
3) Best boobs: Valentina, by far. So firm. Perfect shape. Just a delight to look at, wether she is sitting forward and letting them hang, leaning back and letting them collapse on her chest or shaking them.
4) Best ass: don't know, unlike tits, a lot of girls have great asses. Maybe Bibi and Mira.
5) Best fuck: Cami. She is very nice, clean, likes to try different position, seem to enjoy it, likes it hard. Reverse cowgirl is really nice.
I realized that despite Catalea's beauty, I'm not her biggest fan. I mean she's obviously a beautiful woman with a great body but I don't find her face the most attractive personally. Also I can't say why but I find she looks older than her age. I would give her 27-28, maybe it's the makeup.
It's funny also how all these girls look like girl next door when they go back in civilian clothes. Except for Valentina and Catalea who look even hotter as civilians.
Also I'm terrible at judging these girls height without shoes so seeing them come in the club or leave without the mountain-high-heels is so weird (I'm 1 m87 so except for Catalea, other girls look way smaller).
There was a cute woman with short hair and the widest hips imaginable to man. With a very big ass to match. Everytime I saw her, there was only one word coming to my mind: "fertile".[/QUOTE]Bibi was not always busy, same for Katalea turning around, on Saturday. Bibi is low level for sex, out of her body. Almost no business for Valentina, seem due to her behavior, when she could be busy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2839820]Zoe, milky skin with glasses often with a black girl, sitting under jacuzzis mezzanine. For sure, no crowd on early Sunday.[/QUOTE]Zoe is one of my favorites. Tall skinny German with glasses. When people ask why one should ever travel hours on a plane, just to go to Darmstadt, she is why. Plus Catalina, Brenda, Yana, etc.
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Spent the entire June up to the first week of July on a business trip and went to different clubs every weekend. The last time I visited Sharks was last year Christmas party. I've read recent discussion on how the temperature being hot in Sharks. While I agree that the rooms upstairs were hot in the summer, I really felt that this summer is abnormally hotter than the last few summers. When I agreed to session with the ladies, I insisted on choosing the rooms downstairs where they have AC (although there were couple rooms that the AC doesn't work well). I listed the ladies that I've sessioned with in the order of hotness based on my subjective views.
1) [B]Francesca[/B] (1. 74 m early 20's ROM / ITA with runway model looks): she was given the name Nihan, but she didn't like it and chose Francesca instead. Who knows! She said she used to work at Globe, Switzerland, but she had problem with the management there and left. (That should have been a red flag because Globe probably kicked her out with bad services.) I had no reason not to believe her as a former Globe girl based on her look. I didn't see anyone at Globe looking as hot as her when I was at Globe the last weekend of May. Francesca has the kind of arrogant sexy look that really turned me on. People say men like bitches. Maybe that's why. LOL. (One thing made her recognizable is that she has a thin line of tattoo text written in Portuguese on her left side of her body going from her waist to her thigh. The text translated to something starting with "Life is hard. " as translated by her.) When we're in the room, she didn't like to be kissed too long and sucked on her tits too much. She kind of pushed me away. I asked her why. She wanted 150/30 for all of that. (WTF! This is Germany, not Switzerland as she got used to.) I gave her 100/30. She wasn't that happy and ignored me after that. Did not repeat. She kept getting rooms with many Asian customers though mostly because of her look. WTF!
2) [B]Ariana[/B] (1. 67 m early 20's real Spanish): She's definitely NOT one of those ROM living in Spain pretending to be Spanish as I was able to verify with few Spanish / Hispanic customers who also went with her. (No no no, she doesn't look like Romania. Doesn't look like Latina either.) She's all natural with no tattoo, very elegant and classy. She's pretty new to this FKK thing (few weeks) although she has worked as some kind of masseuse in Spain before. Had dinner with her and talked for 20+ more minutes (after dinner) before going to the room. She enjoys talking and never pressured to go to the room immediately. This chic seems to get excited with sex especially being DATY-ed. Repeated her GFE services few times on different days for 150/60 each time. She unfortunately got screwed by a customer who happens to be a friend of the Sharks owner or manager. He spent 4 to 5 hours with her but only paid her half and then left. She reported to the reception ladies, and they told her that there is not much they can do about it. She was pissed as many people saw that happening on a Friday night. I'm not sure if she'll come back again.
3) [B]Mira[/B] (1. 66 m mid 20's ROM): said she's new to the club and the business. She's proportionally built, not skinny or chubby, with a cute face. She's not like other Romania girls walking around hunting. She prefers to just sit at the bar letting the guys approach her. She wouldn't do CIM (50 extra) the first time because she never tried that before. Who knows and who cares! I talked her into a CIM initiation the second time, and she finally did it. Yey! LOL. Repeated her GFE services few more times for 150/60 each time. She seemed to become incrementally more professional as weeks went by.
4) [B]Valentina[/B] (1. 70 m mid 20's ROM): She said she used to be a mamasan at a small brothel in Austria owned by her boyfriend. After they broke up, she has no better choice to make lot of money other than becoming a working girl herself. LOL. What attracted me were her beautiful natural tits. Her face looks average or more like GND to me when looked closer. For whatever reason, I didn't get a good vibe from her as much as I did from the other chics I sessioned with. Her DFK was somewhat limited and hesitant. In fact, I felt she's somewhat distant and mechanical. I didn't repeat. The damage was 150/60.
5) [B]Jenny[/B] (1. 68 m mid 20's Polish+Spanish with pale skin tone): she was born in Spain but looks more Polish (father side) than Spanish. No, she doesn't look like Romania. She's slightly chubby at the bottom. She kind of stood out because she colored her hair uniquely. She's brunette one week, blond next week, then greenish the week later, then reddish or mixed color the week after that. Go figure! She's honest upfront telling you what she would or would not do. She provided unlimited long DFK for those who like. The only restriction is no finger inside. The whole GFE deal was 150/60. Did not feel strong enough to repeat.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2839714]
3) Best boobs: Valentina, by far. So firm. Perfect shape. Just a delight to look at, wether she is sitting forward and letting them hang, leaning back and letting them collapse on her chest or shaking them.
[/QUOTE]Wow, Valentina's tits are nicer than Brenda's? How big are they? I still don't think I've seen her before.
Great report, thanks!
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[QUOTE=MoneySign;2839939]
3) [B]Mira[/B] (1. 66 m mid 20's ROM): said she's new to the club and the business. She's proportionally built, not skinny or chubby, with a cute face. She's not like other Romania girls walking around hunting. She prefers to just sit at the bar letting the guys approach her. She wouldn't do CIM (50 extra) the first time because she never tried that before. Who knows and who cares! I talked her into a CIM initiation the second time, and she finally did it. Yey! LOL. Repeated her GFE services few more times for 150/60 each time. She seemed to become incrementally more professional as weeks went by..[/QUOTE]Does she look a little like Megan Fox and has a birthmark on her breast? A "Fuck me" tattoo on her ass and a thin, 10 inch tattoo from her neck down her spine?
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2839906]Zoe is one of my favorites. Tall skinny German with glasses. When people ask why one should ever travel hours on a plane, just to go to Darmstadt, she is why. Plus Catalina, Brenda, Yana, etc.[/QUOTE]Yea but don't tell her you are writing in a Sexforum like this, she rejected me because of that or at least it was a lame excuse.
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[QUOTE=MoneySign;2839939]Spent the entire June up to the first week of July on a business trip and went to different clubs every weekend. The last time I visited Sharks was last year Christmas party. I've read recent discussion on how the temperature being hot in Sharks. While I agree that the rooms upstairs were hot in the summer, I really felt that this summer is abnormally hotter than the last few summers. When I agreed to session with the ladies, I insisted on choosing the rooms downstairs where they have AC (although there were couple rooms that the AC doesn't work well). I listed the ladies that I've sessioned with in the order of hotness based on my subjective views.
1) [B]Francesca[/B] (1. 74 m early 20's ROM / ITA with runway model looks): she was given the name Nihan, but she didn't like it and chose Francesca instead. Who knows! She said she used to work at Globe, Switzerland, but she had problem with the management there and left. (That should have been a red flag because Globe probably kicked her out with bad services.) I had no reason not to believe her as a former Globe girl based on her look. I didn't see anyone at Globe looking as hot as her when I was at Globe the last weekend of May. Francesca has the kind of arrogant sexy look that really turned me on. People say men like bitches. Maybe that's why. LOL. (One thing made her recognizable is that she has a thin line of tattoo text written in Portuguese on her left side of her body going from her waist to her thigh. The text translated to something starting with "Life is hard. " as translated by her.) When we're in the room, she didn't like to be kissed too long and sucked on her tits too much. She kind of pushed me away. I asked her why. She wanted 150/30 for all of that. (WTF! This is Germany, not Switzerland as she got used to.) I gave her 100/30. She wasn't that happy and ignored me after that. Did not repeat. She kept getting rooms with many Asian customers though mostly because of her look. WTF!
2) [B]Ariana[/B] (1. 67 m early 20's real Spanish): She's definitely NOT one of those ROM living in Spain pretending to be Spanish as I was able to verify with few Spanish / Hispanic customers who also went with her. (No no no, she doesn't look like Romania. Doesn't look like Latina either.) She's all natural with no tattoo, very elegant and classy. She's pretty new to this FKK thing (few weeks) although she has worked as some kind of masseuse in Spain before. Had dinner with her and talked for 20+ more minutes (after dinner) before going to the room. She enjoys talking and never pressured to go to the room immediately. This chic seems to get excited with sex especially being DATY-ed. Repeated her GFE services few times on different days for 150/60 each time. She unfortunately got screwed by a customer who happens to be a friend of the Sharks owner or manager. He spent 4 to 5 hours with her but only paid her half and then left. She reported to the reception ladies, and they told her that there is not much they can do about it. She was pissed as many people saw that happening on a Friday night. I'm not sure if she'll come back again.
3) [B]Mira[/B] (1. 66 m mid 20's ROM): said she's new to the club and the business. She's proportionally built, not skinny or chubby, with a cute face. She's not like other Romania girls walking around hunting. She prefers to just sit at the bar letting the guys approach her. She wouldn't do CIM (50 extra) the first time because she never tried that before. Who knows and who cares! I talked her into a CIM initiation the second time, and she finally did it. Yey! LOL. Repeated her GFE services few more times for 150/60 each time. She seemed to become incrementally more professional as weeks went by.
4) [B]Valentina[/B] (1. 70 m mid 20's ROM): She said she used to be a mamasan at a small brothel in Austria owned by her boyfriend. After they broke up, she has no better choice to make lot of money other than becoming a working girl herself. LOL. What attracted me were her beautiful natural tits. Her face looks average or more like GND to me when looked closer. For whatever reason, I didn't get a good vibe from her as much as I did from the other chics I sessioned with. Her DFK was somewhat limited and hesitant. In fact, I felt she's somewhat distant and mechanical. I didn't repeat. The damage was 150/60.
5) [B]Jenny[/B] (1. 68 m mid 20's Polish+Spanish with pale skin tone): she was born in Spain but looks more Polish (father side) than Spanish. No, she doesn't look like Romania. She's slightly chubby at the bottom. She kind of stood out because she colored her hair uniquely. She's brunette one week, blond next week, then greenish the week later, then reddish or mixed color the week after that. Go figure! She's honest upfront telling you what she would or would not do. She provided unlimited long DFK for those who like. The only restriction is no finger inside. The whole GFE deal was 150/60. Did not feel strong enough to repeat.[/QUOTE]For sure, Francesca would be one of the prettiest at now with average looks Globe, but limited for french kissing, I also had to explain her how to suck and I think she found I fuxked too much, even she smiled on next day, but no need to repeat for 200/60 her level for sex doesn't worth, just a natural beauty, even better room than with Kity for 100/30 . Only 30 mn meaning for me not good enough to extend. I agree for not wow face for Valentina, like for Katalea when I now understand for heavy make up to hide skin problems, when she didn't have on our 12 rooms when she was fresh, all for 1 hour for 150 , when her level in bed doesn't worth 200/60 for a Caucasian who is a fucker.
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I went to the Sharks three days in a row. Sadly, my experience wasn't great at all. Food was better than girls. On the plus side, I met and hung out with all my friends I hadn't seen in a long time. My trip started with an intercity hotel canceling my booking due to fire damage. I was moved to the Holiday Inn Express. I actually liked Holiday Inn Express more than Intercity, and they let me check in very early for free, which was a big plus. The weather has been crappy all these days, and it looks like all week will be like this. Since I live in the Sunshine State, it's not a big deal for me. In the last three days, I've had three of the worst experiences with Sharks. The first one was Jessica, a tall lady who is usually sitting on the couch facing the stairs going to the jacuzzi area. I chose her just because of her pornstar look, but she had attitude in the room by demanding extra for everything. She lay there like a dead fish. I paid her 100 euros for roughly 15 minutes. The second was Liz. I kind of liked her look, and she was friendly at first. In the room, her first question was, How much are you going to give me? I said 100 euros, and she said, That's it? Worst blowjob: by only sucking the tip of my dick and then complaining in doggy that it's too big and hurts, she asked to give me more blowjob with CIM. The third one was a lady with curly hair named Samira. I have no idea why I chose her since she wasn't quite my type, and it was a mistake. This lady scratched my dick multiple times during the blowjob, which consisted of only mechanical up and down moves. My girlfriend in high school was giving me a better blowjob than her first time. Sex was so-so. I fucked her behind and finished in doggy. Besides the bad ones, I went to a room with Sena, Brenda, a girl who worked in the UK before and speaks perfect English, Alina, and Sabrina. I now know why Sirioja likes Sena so much. She is not my ideal type, but she is an amazing person who provides consistently good service. One of my friends went to a room with a Kenyan girl, and he said she gave him the best blowjob with a lot of ball licking and sucking. Sadly, I'm not into black girls. Another friend took the chubby Romanian girl for 100 euros, with CIM included. Later, this girl came to him and proposed a threesome with her friend for 100 euros for both. He agreed without even thinking. To be honest, I wouldn't fuck them for free, maybe because I'm very picky, but he liked it and said it was a good time. Her friend was wearing a rainbow fishnet top with small, saggy tits. I guess there are still girls who provide service for 50 euros. Most of the girls were grumpy and complaining about not making money. I was thinking of exploring other clubs in the area or possibly going to Switzerland, but I probably will keep going to the Sharks since reviews for other clubs haven't been promising. I will keep posting more reviews since I'm here for another week.
Gentleman, has anyone been with a young-looking, white-skinned girl with double bun hair? She usually sits next to the game table by the stairs. She was quite busy on Sunday. Also, there was another girl who got my attention who was sitting in a quiet area in the far corner of the aquarium. I tried to chat with her, but she wasn't talkative, and most of the time she just sat there. She has big natural boobs.
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Cami and Celine
[QUOTE=Samcik;2839999]Gentleman, has anyone been with a young-looking, white-skinned girl with double bun hair? She usually sits next to the game table by the stairs. She was quite busy on Sunday.[/QUOTE]See my post below of Monday 6.:33 am #29157. It is Cami. I was busy with her on Sunday.
See also post#29151 on 30 July 22:41 by SethiatSpace who gave her his 'best fuck' award. She gets my 'best fuck' award among the girls I had on Sunday too! Don't expect much communication with her though: her English is me Tarzen you Jane standard. Very adorable.
Thank you for reporting on your bad experiences with Liz and Samira. I was attracted to them, but did not seal the deal as wanting 200 Euros for 60 minutes for just the basics gave me bad vibes.
Anyway, on Sunday, after Cami, I found a new import from Oase called Celine who was was far prettier than them, claims to be just 19 years old, and gave a good 1 hour service for 150 euros. Celine was very well patronised on Monday too, non-stop up and down the stairs. Everyone was after the new and fresh SYT!
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New French girl in a depressing Monday
Terrible line-up.
Since there was a discussion on the M-F ratio, and I had nothing better to do, I did a count twice (excluding those in the rooms and changing rooms):
At 2.30 pm - 27 men, 17 girls.
At 8 pm - 57 men, 48 girls.
It was drizzling much of the time. I did not feel tempted to take Celine again as I counted her having 6 rooms already before she was free, and her pussy would probably have been smashed up.
Instead I was eyeing a very very very pretty French girl called Maxima, slim, perfect butt, bob hair and fake tits. I could not get hold of her as she was having a very lengthy orgy lasting hours somewhere upstairs. Anyway, it was no loss as I was told that customers were not allowed to touch her tits.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2840022]See my post below of Monday 6.:33 am #29157. It is Cami. I was busy with her on Sunday.
Anyway, on Sunday, after Cami, I found a new import from Oase called Celine who was was far prettier than them, claims to be just 19 years old, and gave a good 1 hour service for 150 euros. Celine was very well patronised on Monday too, non-stop up and down the stairs. Everyone was after the new and fresh SYT![/QUOTE]Is this the same Celine who only wanted to perform covered BJs only for 100/30 or is there a second Celine? The Celine I am referring to is a young early 20 ish brunette / blonde somewhat cute Romanian that sits over by the video game near the Solarium.
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Monday afternoon
No parking hassle yesterday. Downside: not many girls either. Sharks was no better than Oase had been last Saturday for sure. I had a good session with 48-Kg spinner Kamila. Big labia, if you're into that. I don't like to chew on big labia but I like the sight and the feel of it in doggy (suction & clasping effect).
Sharks' rooms are stuffy even during coldish weather. The heat stays hanging in there for ever. Plus, rooms with no windows never get rid of their humidity so you get into a sweat at the merest exertion. I'll insist on an upstairs room next time and see if that helps. In Thailand you may have to settle for a 15-dollar room with a broken mattress but it will have aircon.
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[QUOTE=Stuggi;2839975]Does she look a little like Megan Fox and has a birthmark on her breast? A "Fuck me" tattoo on her ass and a thin, 10 inch tattoo from her neck down her spine?[/QUOTE]Yes, fuck me written on her ass, real killing desire for me. Only a pimped can have such writing on ass, or fed with porn.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2840076]Is this the same Celine who only wanted to perform covered BJs only for 100/30 or is there a second Celine? The Celine I am referring to is a young early 20 ish brunette / blonde somewhat cute Romanian that sits over by the video game near the Solarium.[/QUOTE]New Celine from Oase is fake blond sitting close to pole. She seemed to get business at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2839999]I went to the Sharks three days in a row. Sadly, my experience wasn't great at all. Food was better than girls. On the plus side, I met and hung out with all my friends I hadn't seen in a long time. My trip started with an intercity hotel canceling my booking due to fire damage. I was moved to the Holiday Inn Express. I actually liked Holiday Inn Express more than Intercity, and they let me check in very early for free, which was a big plus. The weather has been crappy all these days, and it looks like all week will be like this. Since I live in the Sunshine State, it's not a big deal for me. In the last three days, I've had three of the worst experiences with Sharks. The first one was Jessica, a tall lady who is usually sitting on the couch facing the stairs going to the jacuzzi area. I chose her just because of her pornstar look, but she had attitude in the room by demanding extra for everything. She lay there like a dead fish. I paid her 100 euros for roughly 15 minutes. The second was Liz. I kind of liked her look, and she was friendly at first. In the room, her first question was, How much are you going to give me? I said 100 euros, and she said, That's it? Worst blowjob: by only sucking the tip of my dick and then complaining in doggy that it's too big and hurts, she asked to give me more blowjob with CIM. The third one was a lady with curly hair named Samira. I have no idea why I chose her since she wasn't quite my type, and it was a mistake. This lady scratched my dick multiple times during the blowjob, which consisted of only mechanical up and down moves. My girlfriend in high school was giving me a better blowjob than her first time. Sex was so-so. I fucked her behind and finished in doggy. Besides the bad ones, I went to a room with Sena, Brenda, a girl who worked in the UK before and speaks perfect English, Alina, and Sabrina. I now know why Sirioja likes Sena so much. She is not my ideal type, but she is an amazing person who provides consistently good service. One of my friends went to a room with a Kenyan girl, and he said she gave him the best blowjob with a lot of ball licking and sucking. Sadly, I'm not into black girls. Another friend took the chubby Romanian girl for 100 euros, with CIM included. Later, this girl came to him and proposed a threesome with her friend for 100 euros for both. He agreed without even thinking. To be honest, I wouldn't fuck them for free, maybe because I'm very picky, but he liked it and said it was a good time. Her friend was wearing a rainbow fishnet top with small, saggy tits. I guess there are still girls who provide service for 50 euros. Most of the girls were grumpy and complaining about not making money. I was thinking of exploring other clubs in the area or possibly going to Switzerland, but I probably will keep going to the Sharks since reviews for other clubs haven't been promising. I will keep posting more reviews since I'm here for another week.
Gentleman, has anyone been with a young-looking, white-skinned girl with double bun hair? She usually sits next to the game table by the stairs. She was quite busy on Sunday. Also, there was another girl who got my attention who was sitting in a quiet area in the far corner of the aquarium. I tried to chat with her, but she wasn't talkative, and most of the time she just sat there. She has big natural boobs.[/QUOTE]Sena is Globe past quality level in bed if You are able with her, but I love her more for her behavior, kindness and eyes. I had weekly regulars for months who attracted me for sex, but I didn t like them so much, like Katalea. Only 1 great room for 1 hour with Sena, but I love her behavior. She is what was Romanians past quality, when falling since 2022 , so I mostly get Germans now and again on Saturday.
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[QUOTE=Stuggi;2839975]Does she look a little like Megan Fox and has a birthmark on her breast? A "Fuck me" tattoo on her ass and a thin, 10 inch tattoo from her neck down her spine?[/QUOTE]Yeah that's her. I would avoid her, she is too "pro". Also many times there is that one angry-looking-I-own-the-world German dude who book her all day.
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[QUOTE=Samcik;2839999]I went to the Sharks three days in a row. Sadly, my experience wasn't great at all. The second was Liz. I kind of liked her look, and she was friendly at first. In the room, her first question was, How much are you going to give me? I said 100 euros, and she said, That's it? Worst blowjob: by only sucking the tip of my dick and then complaining in doggy that it's too big and hurts, she asked to give me more blowjob with CIM. [/QUOTE]I like Liz look but she has clearly has a huge ego. That's what I like about Melissa. She is a pretty girl with a smoking hot body and has no shame in admitting she is a prostitute. And she is not afraid to name it and what it means. Some of these girls act like they founded SpaceX. "How much you want to pay me?" is such a low-level hooker question. High value escort will tell you their price that they know they're worth and stick to it. That's why I'll avoid Mira too.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2840076]Is this the same Celine who only wanted to perform covered BJs only for 100/30 or is there a second Celine? The Celine I am referring to is a young early 20 ish brunette / blonde somewhat cute Romanian that sits over by the video game near the Solarium.[/QUOTE]This one sits at the front dance pole, and claims to have moved to sharks only 4 days ago, and has bright blonde hair, and very fair skin.
There is a Selene who walks with Cami and Ramona and is normally located in the rear game table. That is the one you probably have in mind.
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Tuesday afternoon
The line-up and the atmosphere was better than on Monday right from the start. I had a good session with a girl with an exceptional natural bubble-butt, going by the name of Maxima. When she told she was Franco-Tunisian we switched to French. Her French was perfect and unaccented. She said she spoke 3 languages but barely spoke German. I assume besides French she spoke English and Arabic. Gentle, eager to please. BJ as we like them. Would repeat.
When I left at 6 the club was becoming a buyer's market, with as many new girls arriving as new customers.
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Bubble Butt
[QUOTE=XXL;2840210]The line-up and the atmosphere was better than on Monday right from the start. I had a good session with a girl with an exceptional natural bubble-butt, going by the name of Maxima. When she told she was Franco-Tunisian we switched to French. Her French was perfect and unaccented. She said she spoke 3 languages but barely spoke German. I assume besides French she spoke English and Arabic. Gentle, eager to please. BJ as we like them. Would repeat. When I left at 6 the club was becoming a buyer's market, with as many new girls arriving as new customers.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you tapped some nice "gluteus maximas" there LOLOLOL!
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Fkk
In terms of more selection is summer or end of summer better more girls?!
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2840096]I like Liz look but she has clearly has a huge ego. That's what I like about Melissa. She is a pretty girl with a smoking hot body and has no shame in admitting she is a prostitute. And she is not afraid to name it and what it means. Some of these girls act like they founded SpaceX. "How much you want to pay me?" is such a low-level hooker question. High value escort will tell you their price that they know they're worth and stick to it. That's why I'll avoid Mira too.[/QUOTE]I think no Sharks girl would dare to ask me how much I want to pay her, because they already know my answer = 0 for at least 90% . It would be funny to be asked. Even she lost freshness for face since our room before covid, but I agree Melissa is much higher level to chat than average at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Stuggi;2839977]Yea but don't tell her you are writing in a Sexforum like this, she rejected me because of that or at least it was a lame excuse.[/QUOTE]Don t you know girls and not only at Sharks don't like bad writer like me? Many girls reading us and when they don't read, some guys like 555 multi profiles telling them, or a french changing words on my posts to change my meaning and showing to girls. Kate at Bruggen asked me when she received, I showed her original posts, she did trust me from how she knew me and refused this guy after. Kate telling me she didn't know any other guy who had such jealousy about him. Some of my girls who were told by jealous guys more able to bullshit them than using their tool, judged me from my behavior and didn't care I write. Quite funny, Cosmina at Oase thanking me for my writing when she hated me at Sharks. But Zoe who already made German FKK tour at 20 , is a very professionnal WG, when most Germans hate writers, so it was a really bad idea to brag about writing here.
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Tuesday night
[QUOTE=XXL;2840210]The line-up and the atmosphere was better than on Monday right from the start. I had a good session with a girl with an exceptional natural bubble-butt, going by the name of Maxima. When she told she was Franco-Tunisian we switched to French.
When I left at 6 the club was becoming a buyer's market, with as many new girls arriving as new customers.[/QUOTE]When I left at 11 pm, it had become totally a buyer's market. Walking around the lounge it was just girls everywhere, and a few brushed me when squeezing past, as they were frantically prowling to find willing male victims.
Even the French Gluteus Maximus had to walk around to hunt. The first time in 4 days I had seen her having to do this.
In contrast, when I went to change to go home, the men's locker room was almost empty.
Quite a few of the fresh faces I talked to said that they were from Oase, and that there was mini-exodus happening as the son of Mauro was a dificult and unfriendly boss (according to them). I am almost tempted to visit Oase to see the state there - but it might be a waste of my time and money to so.
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Ariana
[QUOTE=MoneySign;2839939]
2) [B]Ariana[/B] (1. 67 m early 20's real Spanish): She unfortunately got screwed by a customer who happens to be a friend of the Sharks owner or manager. She was pissed as many people saw that happening on a Friday night. I'm not sure if she'll come back again.
[/QUOTE]She was back prowling on Monday and Tuesday.
And I think she probably got screwed bareback on Monday as I saw her head to the rooms with an old Stamgast who is well known to only do bareback.
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Another new Ariana
There is now a new girl, about 1.63 m, pretty, skinny, claims to be from Italy (but looks Romanian with black hair and darkish skin).
The previous Ariana must have left since in theory Sharks does not allow duplicate names.
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Mara
First visit to an FKK. First monger session in Europe. And had a blast.
As it was my first visit, I was a bit nervous. Had my fair share of experience in the mongering scene, but not in Europe. Either the nervousness showed through, or there are so many regulars that girls notice the unfamiliar faces. A couple girls approached me and I politely declined. First girl was Tamara (about a 6). Wasn't really my type. Asked for 100 E for half HR session, 50 extra for GFE and 100 extra for 1 HR. I think the next girl that approached me was Ariana (about a 7). Again asked me if it was my first time. She said the same thing, 100 E for HH, 200 for an HR, plus extra for GFE. I said maybe later and she left.
Mara from Moldova came by and introduced herself (about 6. 5). She wasn't really my type, but she was super friendly and mildly attractive, reminded me of a friend from HS. She actually laid on the GFE pretty thick in the lounge area. I was ready to decline, but her attitude really sold me. She said 100 E for all inclusive GFE, MSOG if I can muster. We went to one of the rooms. She provided excellent DFK and camel slide. We covered a few positions and after about 15 minutes, I popped in MISH. In typical American fashion, I tipped her 20 E as I really appreciated her attitude and service. She also said greek is available for 100 E more, too.
I stayed another 2 hrs or so to soak in the FKK experience and enjoy the buffet (pretty decent). She later came by with her friend and asked if I wanted a 3 some. They were making out in front of me and grabbing my cock. The amount was going to be 100 E each, so I declined.
I stayed for about a total of 4 or 5 hours. Got lucky to have stumbled in during their discount day (Wed). But missed the fast train back to Frankfurt. What should've been a 17 minute train ride ended taking me 1. 5 hrs to get back.
All in all, I had a great time with a great gal. Mara provided me the best non-Asian service I've ever had. She seems to have an Asian fetish, as subsequent customers seemed to be mostly Asians. Still, truth be told, I prefer the SEA scene for value and girls. Most of these ladies weren't that impressive. There were a few that were stunners. But they also looked like they'd be stuck up and a dead fish in the sack.
BTW, I thought HH is 100 E and HR is 150 E. But everyone was quoting me 200 E for the HR (even Mara). Is this standard or are they taking advantage of the newb?
Thanks for the info you all provide! And I hope my report will help others. I'll post more as the months progress.
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[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2840990]Mara from Moldova came by and introduced herself (about 6. 5). She wasn't really my type, but she was super friendly and mildly attractive, reminded me of a friend from HS. She actually laid on the GFE pretty thick in the lounge area. I was ready to decline, but her attitude really sold me. She said 100 E for all inclusive GFE, MSOG if I can muster. We went to one of the rooms. She provided excellent DFK and camel slide. We covered a few positions and after about 15 minutes, I popped in MISH. In typical American fashion, I tipped her 20 E as I really appreciated her attitude and service. She also said greek is available for 100 E more, too.[/QUOTE]Nice report! Did 100/30 with Mara include DATY? She wanted 50 Euro extra for it so I declined. Seems I need to try a session with her.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2840210]The line-up and the atmosphere was better than on Monday right from the start. I had a good session with a girl with an exceptional natural bubble-butt, going by the name of Maxima. When she told she was Franco-Tunisian we switched to French. Her French was perfect and unaccented. She said she spoke 3 languages but barely spoke German. I assume besides French she spoke English and Arabic. Gentle, eager to please. BJ as we like them. Would repeat.
When I left at 6 the club was becoming a buyer's market, with as many new girls arriving as new customers.[/QUOTE]I've been to Sharks about 10 times in the past month and tried various girls. Maxima is, without a doubt, my favorite one there. She has a gorgeous face, does a great GFE performance, and she gives long, slow, sensual BJs like few other working girls are willing or able to do. She's the only girl there who I'm willing to do a 1 hour session with, which I've done multiple times now.
I regret having to leave Germany soon, because I'd like to keep coming back to Sharks for regular Maxima sessions.
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[QUOTE=LuckyTo;2841028]Nice report! Did 100/30 with Mara include DATY? She wanted 50 Euro extra for it so I declined. Seems I need to try a session with her.[/QUOTE]I didn't ask for it. It was my first session, so for the most part, I went with the flow. The most important things for me during a session are DFK and BBBJ which were provided without an extra surcharge.
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[QUOTE=MongerNomad;2841139]I've been to Sharks about 10 times in the past month and tried various girls. Maxima is, without a doubt, my favorite one there. She has a gorgeous face, does a great GFE performance, and she gives long, slow, sensual BJs like few other working girls are willing or able to do. She's the only girl there who I'm willing to do a 1 hour session with, which I've done multiple times now.
I regret having to leave Germany soon, because I'd like to keep coming back to Sharks for regular Maxima sessions.[/QUOTE]Are you sure you've got the name right?
I can't recall any girl with that name at Sharks.
Any further details you could add to her description plus where she normally resides?
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SEA scene
Wth is the SEA scene?
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2840990]First visit to an FKK. First monger session in Europe. And had a blast.
As it was my first visit, I was a bit nervous. Had my fair share of experience in the mongering scene, but not in Europe. Either the nervousness showed through, or there are so many regulars that girls notice the unfamiliar faces. A couple girls approached me and I politely declined. First girl was Tamara (about a 6). Wasn't really my type. Asked for 100 E for half HR session, 50 extra for GFE and 100 extra for 1 HR. I think the next girl that approached me was Ariana (about a 7). Again asked me if it was my first time. She said the same thing, 100 E for HH, 200 for an HR, plus extra for GFE. I said maybe later and she left.
Mara from Moldova came by and introduced herself (about 6. 5). She wasn't really my type, but she was super friendly and mildly attractive, reminded me of a friend from HS. She actually laid on the GFE pretty thick in the lounge area. I was ready to decline, but her attitude really sold me. She said 100 E for all inclusive GFE, MSOG if I can muster. We went to one of the rooms. She provided excellent DFK and camel slide. We covered a few positions and after about 15 minutes, I popped in MISH. In typical American fashion, I tipped her 20 E as I really appreciated her attitude and service. She also said greek is available for 100 E more, too.
I stayed another 2 hrs or so to soak in the FKK experience and enjoy the buffet (pretty decent). She later came by with her friend and asked if I wanted a 3 some. They were making out in front of me and grabbing my cock. The amount was going to be 100 E each, so I declined.
I stayed for about a total of 4 or 5 hours. Got lucky to have stumbled in during their discount day (Wed). But missed the fast train back to Frankfurt. What should've been a 17 minute train ride ended taking me 1. 5 hrs to get back.
All in all, I had a great time with a great gal. Mara provided me the best non-Asian service I've ever had. She seems to have an Asian fetish, as subsequent customers seemed to be mostly Asians. Still, truth be told, I prefer the SEA scene for value and girls. Most of these ladies weren't that impressive. There were a few that were stunners. But they also looked like they'd be stuck up and a dead fish in the sack.
BTW, I thought HH is 100 E and HR is 150 E. But everyone was quoting me 200 E for the HR (even Mara). Is this standard or are they taking advantage of the newb?
Thanks for the info you all provide! And I hope my report will help others. I'll post more as the months progress.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2841371]Wth is the SEA scene?[/QUOTE]The high seas. Wenches, sirens and assorted merwomen matey.
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2841371]Wth is the SEA scene?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Canary;2841282]Are you sure you've got the name right?
I can't recall any girl with that name at Sharks.
Any further details you could add to her description plus where she normally resides?[/QUOTE]Can confirm. At least, I believe that's the name I heard.
Bubble butt, bob cut a la Rachel from friends.
Very attractive "Arabic" look. French Tunisian.
Solid provider, only fault I found is she objects to her nipples being touched. Rest of the breasts are A-OK.
Couldn't tell you where she normally resides. She seems to do solid business.
The one person I conversed with today, when I mentioned her good service, said "everyone is talking about her and her good service".
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2841371]Wth is the SEA scene?[/QUOTE]Southeast Asia (Thailand, Phillipines, etc). That is my assumption.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2841425]Southeast Asia (Thailand, Phillipines, etc). That is my assumption.[/QUOTE]Korean dude graduating from Thailand to FKKs. Good for him. Totally different scene, even outside the Asian only areas, which as an Asian guy he gets to benifit from like us westerners don't.
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Thanks for the great report
[QUOTE=SinfullyKorean;2840990]
All in all, I had a great time with a great gal. Mara provided me the best non-Asian service I've ever had. She seems to have an Asian fetish, as subsequent customers seemed to be mostly Asians. Still, truth be told, I prefer the SEA scene for value and girls.
BTW, I thought HH is 100 E and HR is 150 E. But everyone was quoting me 200 E for the HR (even Mara). Is this standard or are they taking advantage of the newb?.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you excellent report and yes, no comparison to SEA, but quality there is also declining. Just take HK.
On pricing you did well. It should be max. 100/30 and 150/60 including GFE. Greek is an extra 100 and things like CIM also add. So they tried to upsell, which is for me a clear no at current prices and often a sign for mediocre service. Many girls ask 200/60 but few stunners are worth it IMHO. Glad to hear you had fun, from my POV the German FKK is in decline, prices up, service down and looks deteriorating. Just my opinion.
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Licking feet and sucking toes
Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2841974]Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?[/QUOTE]Better You ask for this fetish, but I'm pretty sure some girls will accept for money, when with new rate, many seen with very slow business on this Saturday, when many clients are not so demanding, going with Tunisian speaking french who is so professionnal for nothing exceptionnal but many limits for nipples, clit and small pussy.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2841974]Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?[/QUOTE]There used to be an American who called himself R whose main requirement was to lick feet that had been unwashed since the girl woke up on that day.
I know a few girls who did it for him regularly, but most of those girls have left. One of them is still present, but don't expect me to reveal who she is. She told me before that she tolerated it, as being licked on the feet for 2 hours continuously was easier than having to provide sexual services.
He too had left the scene since Covid came. To get the girls to agree, he promised multiple sessions and candies.
So, in answer to your question, it can be done.
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[QUOTE=LMatador;2841417]Can confirm. At least, I believe that's the name I heard.
Bubble butt, bob cut a la Rachel from friends.
Very attractive "Arabic" look. French Tunisian.
Solid provider, only fault I found is she objects to her nipples being touched. Rest of the breasts are A-OK.
Couldn't tell you where she normally resides. She seems to do solid business.
The one person I conversed with today, when I mentioned her good service, said "everyone is talking about her and her good service".[/QUOTE]In front of a real 100% french, Tunisian born when they speak french in Tunisia, Algeria and Morocco. I think she practiced french when escorting in France before Sharks, when really easy to see she is for sure not new in business, putting so much limits about nipples, clit, pussy, really fake GFE with no illusion. When I wrote I would not pay again 200/60 for Sofi. De look, but she is far higher level in bed than Maxima really not worthing 200/60 for sex, despite beautiful eyes, teeth and ass in doggy but not enough when quite average for sex for me, when my first on Saturday was far higher GFE level for 150/80 for her long time good client, when I think she was happy to start with me after 3 months without sex, I couldn t miss such opportunity, reminded me 26 April 2015 at World and I prepared her for the war in this business. At Sharks, some are higher quality for less expensive than many. Yes, many ask 200/60 when really not worthing, some asking 100/30 but just for suck and fuck. Quantity but not highest quality, when I find higher level for less expensive on North. But staff really improved and old lady on bar.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2841974]Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?[/QUOTE]How long do you want to do it for? If for 1/2 hour I can't see any girl refusing it for EUR100. I have always done it (when so motivated) for part of a half hour session and was never refused or charged extra for it, I used it as part of foreplay, sucking on breasts, buns, etc. My last visits were pre-covid and was never charged extra even for DATY. Post-covid things might have changed.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2842188]How long do you want to do it for? If for 1/2 hour I can't see any girl refusing it for EUR100. I have always done it (when so motivated) for part of a half hour session and was never refused or charged extra for it, I used it as part of foreplay, sucking on breasts, buns, etc. My last visits were pre-covid and was never charged extra even for DATY. Post-covid things might have changed.[/QUOTE]And how did they react while suddenly you were sucking their toes? Did they take It as normal or were they kind of surprised? Thanks.
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Is COF common in FKK Sharks? I've never seen it mentioned here. I imagine its not common. Just asking! I suppose anything is possible with the right amount of euros.
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2842286]Is COF common in FKK Sharks? I've never seen it mentioned here. I imagine its not common. Just asking! I suppose anything is possible with the right amount of euros.[/QUOTE]CIM for 50 , COB, but COF kill make up and hair, meaning time for girls to make again, so not sure many will provide, when many heavy make up to hide behind prostitute mask, or face skin quality.
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2842286]Is COF common in FKK Sharks? I've never seen it mentioned here. I imagine its not common. Just asking! I suppose anything is possible with the right amount of euros.[/QUOTE]Anything is possible with the right amount of money [B]and[/B] the right girl. One of the hottest girls I ever approached in an FKK the first thing out of her mouth was, "Cum in my face"! And I did too. At the standard, no upsell rate LOL!
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[QUOTE=KyivBound1986;2842286]Is COF common in FKK Sharks? I've never seen it mentioned here. I imagine it's not common. Just asking! I suppose anything is possible with the right amount of euros.[/QUOTE]Interesting question with nuanced answer. I would say COF is dissuaded by the girls in Sharks or girls who work any club setting. Simply because it means that they might have to re-do their make-up and / or hair which takes up precious time. Of all the requests they receive I would think COF is on the tame side. If I was looking for COF I would offer no more than the usual 50 eur extra I would for a CIM. I would hazard a guess that you'd get a yes over a no most of the time with the usual caveat of 'not in my eyes' and 'not in my hair' followed by some acrobatic cum dodging which will result in a less than satisfying a chin-shot. There are probably better ways to put the icing on your cake.
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I was in Sharks about 10 days ago during a weekend, quite a weak lineup IMHO.
Brenda stood around quite a bit, for the rest there were relatively few women and even fewer stunners. I saw a (new?) hot girl who looked a lot like Esther RO but with black hair sitting in the same area where Esther sits. Anyone know her name? She had beautiful silicone tits, long jet-black hair, nice curves and a gorgeous face, unfortunately she was quite busy so I missed her. Sits near the dance pole when you enter on right.
For the fanboys, Chloe moved towards the halfway point at the bar on the righthand side, instead of at the beginning of the bar where she was always hanging out with Kim. For some reason I can't get exited from Chloe, although I considered her because the lineup was so weak. She would have been easy to book, she stood around 'unemployed' quite a bit.
I did a few rounds in the sauna, did a few quickies with my regulars and left early. Overall a very very mediocre day, thankfully my regulars saved the day.
[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2841974]Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?[/QUOTE]I don't have a feet fetish so to me it seems an unusual request, but I'm sure many girls get unusual requests all the time so don't worry about the girl's reaction.
I don't see the problem for [U]any[/U] girl to accept this request, even free of charge: generally you need to pay for the [B]girl[/B] to lick certain parts of [U]your[/U] body (feet, rimming etc), or for you to lick her pussy (or kiss her mouth) because her pussy is a sensitive orifice and can get infected. Licking [I]her[/I] feet or toes? No potential to get infected, and she can easily wash her feet again once the room is over. Licking her feet and thereafter expecting DFK might be a problem though.
IMHO it's like kissing her tits, legs, stomach, or neck (any body part that has no orfice) and I don't understand why anyone would be worried about a girl's reaction or even consider paying extra for it. Don't worry about, just do it and have fun!
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Probably Bibi, on her second tour at Sharks, no silicon but growing pointing a lot nipples for her body reaction, even more than Katalea with also pointing nipples, when I m the only one to describe, so, maybe I was the only one to experience from my way to treat both. For Bibi, really average in bed. Many at Sharks just go for her body. She wanted 200/60 on her first tour on 2022.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2842223]And how did they react while suddenly you were sucking their toes? Did they take It as normal or were they kind of surprised? Thanks.[/QUOTE]My modus operandi if the girl is really hot is start with DFK, then suck on the boobs, then go down to tummy then DATY, then go down to thighs, knee, lower leg then feet, many girls say it tickles. If she says that I give her a foot massage which they all enjoy and have my way with her feet in between massaging them. After that I turn her around then work my way up leaving no square inch unkissed, then its CFS time.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2841974]Honest question: have you ever licked feet and sucked toes of a girl in a club?
And if yes, how did the girl react? Like everything was normal or they were shocked?[/QUOTE]In real world, About one seventh males have foot fetish, so it is common. But much higher proportion of FKK mongers have pussylick fetish. This is one of reasons that girls would like to surcharge for pussy licking.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2842083]
So, in answer to your question, it can be done.[/QUOTE]Wow, how could you know that? I doubt. Girls told you? Are you a whiffy-foot-licking expert?
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What percentage of the girls have breast implants at Sharks? I've only been twice, but it seemed more than usual.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2842696]What percentage of the girls have breast implants at Sharks? I've only been twice, but it seemed more than usual.[/QUOTE]Too many, when I can't go with them. I made exception for speaking French Tunisian Maxima, because I miss French communication in sex, I loved with Lora before mask fell, and my big mistake with Maxima when don t touch my nipples, stopping when playing too much with clit, bad positions for fucking. But some beautiful naturals. I was happy to see Kloe perfect naturals on last Saturday, before she started her business.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2842631]In real world, About one seventh males have foot fetish, so it is common. But much higher proportion of FKK mongers have pussylick fetish. This is one of reasons that girls would like to surcharge for pussy licking.
Wow, how could you know that? I doubt. Girls told you? Are you a whiffy-foot-licking expert?[/QUOTE]Some girls smell a bit from feet. Some also from pussy. Wet cover urine and like with a real girlfriend I didn't send to shower when desire. Kind of GFE.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2842696]What percentage of the girls have breast implants at Sharks? I've only been twice, but it seemed more than usual.[/QUOTE]If you'd put a gun to my head and I would have to make a guess, it would be roughly 30-40% but maybe I'm way off with that number.
Many girls with flat-saggy tits but instead they have invested thousands in ugly tattoos, very few girls with nice big naturals like Brenda or Chloe.
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Sharks review, prices, service, cancer
So I was in the place on Thursday, first revisit since COVID and my first visit since getting treated for Prostate Cancer. (Currently the treatment working, so get checked boys, get checked).
The place is much the same, upstairs is slightly revamped. The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. Now, the good stuff.
I was shocked by this having to "negotiate" with the girls. It is a total passion killer for me. It makes everything more mechanical and everything harder. I get it there is inflation. I get it there is a free market. But 200 Euros for an hour and negotiating BJ without condom as an extra just destroys Germany as an option. With the money you can spend on girls in Germany now, you can spend on a plane ticket to Dubai and get a girl all night for 400 USD or even cheaper. Of course for the more well heeled, the money is irrelevant and for you lucky guys you still get that shopping market, stack 'em high sell 'em cheap experience and more power to your elbow.
Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour. I always need an hour these days after prostate cancer. However I did have to explain to the girls that we have to take things slowly now. (Everything works just a bit slower due to radiation damage). Also, when I finish the seminal fluid is reduced to a tiny little drop. Ah well, better that than dead, plus it feels the same, just less messy. I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come. But then she actually refused me (first refusal since 2005) because I was "Krank". I said no, I was cured and cancer is not contractable, I just had to explain things had to go slower, but she said "For me this is not OK you are sick" and with that I just walked off. I nearly walked out I was so ashamed but then I realised something. What the fuck do I have to explain anything for? So I forgot trying to explain things, I am just an older guy who takes longer end of story
Having said that the quality of girls was just as good as it has been since about 2010 (the second decline when they tightened up registration rules) and certainly 2007 (when the kicked the Russians out). In terms of price, the majority seemed to want 200 from me. Maybe because I am starting to actually look old now. Who knows. Things change I guess. I did see (I think) the girl Chloe who is cute face and a touch chubby but she wanted 200. She seemed a bit mechanical but nice. I didn't want to spend 200 so I thought I would try something else. Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.
The service was just about acceptable. Certainly not GFE. And with that, I finished and fucked off.
All in all the scene is not what it was. The negotiation aspect is a pain, the prices are just a bit too high for me now and make Germany a less attractive option. I think the Girls do not make any more money than they did but they probably don't have to do as many clients (but I could be wrong as I only did a quick observation). I do miss the German girls. If you got a good one you could get a real good fuck sometimes. I think Berlin still has a few local girls. But I will only be an occasional visitor in future.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. [/QUOTE]Did they suddenly increase prices? Two weeks ago I still paid 65.
[URL]https://fkk-sharks.de/pricing.php[/URL]
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour.[/QUOTE]Wrong again: 150-hour is the norm.
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256] (I think) the girl Chloe who is cute face and a touch chubby
Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.[/QUOTE]It would help if you at least get the names of the girls and entrance & hourly room prices correct, Chloe is definitely not chubby so it probably wasn't her.
Hope you get well soon and that the treatment of your prostate cancer will be successful. I don't know what your budget is, but perhaps next time consider going to Switzerland? It's more expensive, but when a girl agrees to go to a room with you, then IMHO there is a much smaller change of getting ripped off with poor service and bullshit upselling.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]So I was in the place on Thursday, first revisit since COVID and my first visit since getting treated for Prostate Cancer. (Currently the treatment working, so get checked boys, get checked).
The place is much the same, upstairs is slightly revamped. The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. Now, the good stuff.
I was shocked by this having to "negotiate" with the girls. It is a total passion killer for me. It makes everything more mechanical and everything harder. I get it there is inflation. I get it there is a free market. But 200 Euros for an hour and negotiating BJ without condom as an extra just destroys Germany as an option. With the money you can spend on girls in Germany now, you can spend on a plane ticket to Dubai and get a girl all night for 400 USD or even cheaper. Of course for the more well heeled, the money is irrelevant and for you lucky guys you still get that shopping market, stack 'em high sell 'em cheap experience and more power to your elbow.
Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour. I always need an hour these days after prostate cancer. However I did have to explain to the girls that we have to take things slowly now. (Everything works just a bit slower due to radiation damage). Also, when I finish the seminal fluid is reduced to a tiny little drop. Ah well, better that than dead, plus it feels the same, just less messy. I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come..[/QUOTE]Very happy for you, you won your war. Very sorry about this stupid girl, she should go to gynecologue when breast krank may kill in only few months, but girls in this business won t invent hot water, or maybe she thought You would be too complicated. Not for same reason, but I m used to girls who seem to think I would be too difficult for them, but when we discover, most ask to repeat. Kloe is not chubby at all, but very firm slim with perfect naturals compare to many bad silicon, pity she most often hide them, when I'm pretty sure they could help her for more business. For Sharks, entry is 65, why did you pay 75? For girls rate, when can find German escorts for 150/60, when I'm not a 30 mn rabbit, so I look at Sharks escort level and really not many. On last Saturday, I was really happy to find my full natural Sharks 2021 best girl, she is also a Mainhattan superstar, for 150/80 for real GFE. If you want to try German escorts, lady. De or kaufmich. De, ask video by whatsapp, when they are less expensive than little Romanians at Sharks. Like clothes for babies, the smallest, the most expensive.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]So I was in the place on Thursday, first revisit since COVID and my first visit since getting treated for Prostate Cancer. (Currently the treatment working, so get checked boys, get checked).
The place is much the same, upstairs is slightly revamped. The entry fee is fine (75 Euros) and the food good. Now, the good stuff.
I was shocked by this having to "negotiate" with the girls. It is a total passion killer for me. It makes everything more mechanical and everything harder. I get it there is inflation. I get it there is a free market. But 200 Euros for an hour and negotiating BJ without condom as an extra just destroys Germany as an option. With the money you can spend on girls in Germany now, you can spend on a plane ticket to Dubai and get a girl all night for 400 USD or even cheaper. Of course for the more well heeled, the money is irrelevant and for you lucky guys you still get that shopping market, stack 'em high sell 'em cheap experience and more power to your elbow.
Regarding negotiation, some girls will go for 150 for the hour. I always need an hour these days after prostate cancer. However I did have to explain to the girls that we have to take things slowly now. (Everything works just a bit slower due to radiation damage). Also, when I finish the seminal fluid is reduced to a tiny little drop. Ah well, better that than dead, plus it feels the same, just less messy. I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come. But then she actually refused me (first refusal since 2005) because I was "Krank". I said no, I was cured and cancer is not contractable, I just had to explain things had to go slower, but she said "For me this is not OK you are sick" and with that I just walked off. I nearly walked out I was so ashamed but then I realised something. What the fuck do I have to explain anything for? So I forgot trying to explain things, I am just an older guy who takes longer end of story
Having said that the quality of girls was just as good as it has been since about 2010 (the second decline when they tightened up registration rules) and certainly 2007 (when the kicked the Russians out). In terms of price, the majority seemed to want 200 from me. Maybe because I am starting to actually look old now. Who knows. Things change I guess. I did see (I think) the girl Chloe who is cute face and a touch chubby but she wanted 200. She seemed a bit mechanical but nice. I didn't want to spend 200 so I thought I would try something else. Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.
The service was just about acceptable. Certainly not GFE. And with that, I finished and fucked off.
All in all the scene is not what it was. The negotiation aspect is a pain, the prices are just a bit too high for me now and make Germany a less attractive option. I think the Girls do not make any more money than they did but they probably don't have to do as many clients (but I could be wrong as I only did a quick observation). I do miss the German girls. If you got a good one you could get a real good fuck sometimes. I think Berlin still has a few local girls. But I will only be an occasional visitor in future.[/QUOTE]Great that you had a good time. You did start off by giving too much information. The girls also have their issues but they will never tell you.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2843303]Great that you had a good time. You did start off by giving too much information. The girls also have their issues but they will never tell you.[/QUOTE]I didn't read he enjoyed so much his visit, feeling ashamed when he is a hero to win his war and not sure he would repeat his choice, what I understood when I learned English at school in Paris long time ago. Girls tried to fuck him for money because new face for them. My tip: don't say your first visit, same in any club. I fully agree with him, grocery negotiation is a real killing desire also for me, I refuse to negotiate, I prefer next, or even to drive back to Paris full heavy. With their new rate, I wonder how many girls make more money than when was 50/30. Few girls like Cami and Kamila are for 80/30 and 130/60. My 150/80, or 200/90 with a very rare so natural and deep GFE German now escorting, are not too bad, from my good job to treat girls who are able to attract me. On last Saturday, Miss Sharks 2022 Roxi was back. Alina and Sabrina will return on end of month. Tara was also back. Also Sena.
Sharks really grew on 2015, when was behind Oase, World and Palace before. Now biggest, but don't mean highest quality and for sure not best value for money in Germany. Only worth for me is new rate can attract rare girls and from escorting, when best club for Germans if you know when.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2843303]Great that you had a good time.[/QUOTE]A good time? Is it just [I]me[/I] who has completely misread his post?
If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time. One girl bailed on him (after initially agreeing 150460 and after he popped a Viagra) and the second girl offered "just about acceptable" service.
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]I did try explaining to one girl that I had some issues and was waiting for Viagra to kick in, and we negotiated 150 for the hour and I was happy to go to the room when I felt the flush come. But then she actually refused me (first refusal since 2005) because I was "Krank". I said no, I was cured and cancer is not contractable, I just had to explain things had to go slower, but she said "For me this is not OK you are sick" and with that I just walked off.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843256]Nikka (I think) was my eventual choice.
The service was just about acceptable. Certainly not GFE. And with that, I finished and fucked off.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843279]Did they suddenly increase prices? Two weeks ago I still paid 65.
[URL]https://fkk-sharks.de/pricing.php[/URL]
Wrong again: 150-hour is the norm.
It would help if you at least get the names of the girls and entrance & hourly room prices correct, Chloe is definitely not chubby so it probably wasn't her.
Hope you get well soon and that the treatment of your prostate cancer will be successful. I don't know what your budget is, but perhaps next time consider going to Switzerland? It's more expensive, but when a girl agrees to go to a room with you, then IMHO there is a much smaller change of getting ripped off with poor service and bullshit upselling.[/QUOTE]Yes, entry is 50 or 65 , not 75 . French native, but I understood his report in same way than You = quite disappointing and even feeling ashamed when he really doesn t have to. There is no more norm at Sharks, few will really kiss and BBBJ for 80/30 and 130/60 and not the ugliest and some will ask 150/30 and 250 or even 300/60 . This is now Sharks, but my french friend enjoyed today a Globe girl for 100/30 , I never noticed her at Globe, but he was happy with her at Sharks, when we don t have same taste for girls, only to play NBA at Oase.
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It's True: Quantity But Not Quality
4 days at Sharks, Wed. Sun. My second time in the post-Covid era.
I had an initial panic attack that I had traveled 4,500 miles from the US for nothing. Wasn't the quality of girls I remember. Admittedly, I'm picky and strongly prefer natural light-haired, light-eyed girls, versus the dark features that are common with Romanian girls. German girls are always my go-to. Looks and service is always better for me. If the German girls stop coming, I will as well.
Luckily, I later found Jana and Zoe, two German jewels, IMO. I also couldn't resist the light-eyed Sophia from Macedonia. Unfortunately, despite being pretty, the service was not great and would not repeat.
Speaking of German girls. Should a miracle happen and Leonie returns (Tall blonde gone since Covid), I'll pay you for the notice. She was my soulmate.
I was hoping the new prices would bring in more QUALITY girls but it does not appear that's the case. I'll never forget in 2018, sitting in the main captain's chair next to the video game table, the best seat in the house where you have a perfect view of everything, and I remember sitting there just watching the girls' locker room door continually swing open, and my jaw dropping as a constant stream of beauties would walk out. It felt like an out-of-body experience. Side note: When did more girls start sitting in the couch area? That is prime real estate for us!
I've been to Sharks 8 more times since, which may also be a factor (like any addiction, it's never as good as your first time). I also read on this forum that Sharks was even better pre-2017, which just blows my mind to think about. I feel fortunate to have discovered FKK but also resentful it wasn't until 2018. But, I can objectively say for me, Sharks is not what it once was. Hoping we'll get back to the 'ol days soon!
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843318]A good time? . . .
If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time.[/QUOTE]I read it the same way. But I'd remind him that Germany has more than Sharks to offer. Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2843510]I read it the same way. But I'd remind him that Germany has more than Sharks to offer. Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?[/QUOTE]Good point. Sharks is the biggest, but not always the best. I'd also like to add that bad luck is part of the game sometimes.
Mike, glad you are around and still kicking. All the best to you.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2843510]Give up on the club, perhaps. . . But the whole country?[/QUOTE]Well, I'm open for ideas. Do you have any better suggestions for clubs at the moment in Germany?
After Golden Times in Brueggen burned to the ground, NRW is more or less dead for me because IMHO all the other clubs suck. I was never a fan of Living Room, and I always avoided Oceans because it was another rip-off tourist trap with their pricing 'strategy' of trying to rip off customers if they arrived by taxi or having to pay for food etc.
What else is there? Villa Vertigo? Oase? Mainhattan? Palace? Artemis?
No thanks, just read the poor reviews and you know enough. I already predicted this in 2020-2021 that the lockdowns and all the "pandemic" bullshit would be disastrous for the economy in general and FKK clubs in particular in Germany and now we see the result.
Another prediction I made is that the left-socialist parties (and that includes the CDU which has Merkel turned into just another franchise SPD-Green party) in Germany will follow what the left-socialist-Schwab-Soros parties have already 'achieved' in other countries like Sweden, France, and Ireland: closing down clubs and outlawing prostitution.
[URL]https://www.bild.de/politik/2023/politik/prostitution-in-deutschland-kommt-bald-ein-bordell-verbot-84971158.bild.html[/URL]
[QUOTE]Politiker wollen neues Gesetz Kommt bald ein Bordell-Verbot?[/QUOTE]'Politicians want a new law Will brothels soon be outlawed?
According to some 'study' they now claim that '90% of the women in the prostitution business' are being abused. Yes, you read that right: NINETY PERCENT!
[QUOTE]Die Frauen muessen tagtglich schwere Koerperverletzung durch gewalttaetige Freier und Zuhaelter erdulden, sagte Mack. Sie leiden deshalb unter psychischen Traumatisierungen, wie wir sie sonst nur von Folteropfern und Kriegsveteranen kennen.[/QUOTE]'Women must endure heavy bodily violence from customers and pimps on a daily basis' said Mack, 'that's why they suffer from psychological traumas similar to victims of torture and veterans of war. '.
Just like with all the Covid 'deaths' and the Climate change' hype, do we now again see shameless exaggerations sold to the sheeple as 'science' by the 'media' in order to push a certain narrative?
Just a little thought experiment: what's the last time any of you saw a girl walk down the stairs in Sharks looking all bloodied with bruises and black eyes ("schwere Koerperverletzung" = severe bodily harm.) after a room with a customer? And then they [I]suggest[/I] with clever writing that this happens to NINETY PERCENT of the girls, on a DAILY basis? Really? WTF!?
P.S. The Greens pretend to be against outlawing prostitution, but they usually do this bait-and-switch trick: pretend to be in favour of personal freedoms ("my body, my choice") but then they collectively vote along with the Brown Fascists under the guise of 'protecting the general public. '.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843318]A good time? Is it just [I]me[/I] who has completely misread his post?
If you actually read his report then IMHO it clearly shows that he did [U]not[/U] have a good time. One girl bailed on him (after initially agreeing 150460 and after he popped a Viagra) and the second girl offered "just about acceptable" service.[/QUOTE]In his circumstances he did pop, its a good time compared to sitting at home in the US and not nutting. He also got experience to make his next trip better. Its sometimes good to look at the positive side of things.
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Sharks trip clarification
Thank you for the nice replies. A lot was made of the entrance fee being 75. Can I point out this is probably a mistake and I also want feeling top well at the time. So it probably was 65 euros. My apologies.
I definately spoke to a kloe / chloe and a nikka. Also a nice Turkish girl with a very short buy cute face with hamster cheeks. But she wanted 200.
I don't remember names so well of the girls themselves are empty vessels. Always been the same. Sorry.
I made it clear I was a long timer and no way I was paying 200 for an hour. Bit mpst girls with me were very adamant ot was 200. As I was adamant it was not acceptable.
After my treatment I lost a bit of hair and got fatter. I noticed that even though they don't care much about looks. It made a difference that I look less pleasant I think. A man can tell.
So I had a good time with the atmosphere and the food and the naked chick's.
In the room not so much. Waste of money really. A visit to pornhub would have been more satisfying. The negotiations were painful and frustrating. It was just about with going for the expedience. Not giving up on Germany but sharks is finished for me.
Thanks again for considerate replies.
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[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843682]Thank you for the nice replies. A lot was made of the entrance fee being 75. Can I point out this is probably a mistake and I also want feeling top well at the time. So it probably was 65 euros. My apologies.
I definately spoke to a kloe / chloe and a nikka. Also a nice Turkish girl with a very short buy cute face with hamster cheeks. But she wanted 200.[/QUOTE]Chloe recently got a perm and her body is very tan from the Solarium. There is not an ounce of fat on her. She does ask for 200 for 60 minutes. Her usual place is on the right side of the bar directly opposite the stripper pole sitting with Liz, Emma and gang.
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Girl that needs to be located
For the experts, there was a romanian girl, back in 2020 that I've been with that gave me a memorable service, it was a Sunday at noon, she said that she never stays past 4-5 pm because it gets too crowded and prefers to work when there's less people. She was on the darker side (or maybe tanned? Medium height, black hair long and straight, had really big natural boobs, bigger than Brenda's, very soft skin, black eyes, no lip injections or anything like that, obviously can't remember the name, but I think she was my best experience in Sharks so I decided why not throw that bottle out here if anybody can recognize who I'm talking about.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2843627]In his circumstances he did pop, its a good time compared to sitting at home in the US and not nutting.[/QUOTE]Obviously you have the bar set extremely low for quality and service levels.
Mike's answer perfectly explains it:
[QUOTE=MikeDeH;2843682]
In the room not so much. Waste of money really. A visit to pornhub would have been more satisfying.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2843750]For the experts, there was a romanian girl, back in 2020 that I've been with that gave me a memorable service, it was a Sunday at noon, she said that she never stays past 4-5 pm because it gets too crowded and prefers to work when there's less people. She was on the darker side (or maybe tanned? Medium height, black hair long and straight, had really big natural boobs, bigger than Brenda's, very soft skin, black eyes, no lip injections or anything like that, obviously can't remember the name, but I think she was my best experience in Sharks so I decided why not throw that bottle out here if anybody can recognize who I'm talking about.[/QUOTE]Maybe Dilek sitting at the bar close to ex kino.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2843539]Good point. Sharks is the biggest, but not always the best. I'd also like to add that bad luck is part of the game sometimes.
Mike, glad you are around and still kicking. All the best to you.[/QUOTE]Yes, biggest, but not best quality nor best value in Germany, but better than most in Switzerland. At Sharks, You can find few prettier than at Globe and Freubad is not on same level than on previous Summer. Germany is where can find best quality and value for money for me, just have to look for out of tourism and to be able to find and make being good for own standard. Few really good and honest girls at Sharks, he was just unlucky for his choices and mistook to tell his problem, when most girls are not clever enough to understand.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843794]......Mike's answer perfectly explains it:[/QUOTE]You omitted that Mike also said - "So I had a good time with the atmosphere and the food and the naked chick's. ".
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She was indeed sitting at the bar
Who is Dilek? Never heard that name mentioned by anyone here, is she still working?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2843839]Maybe Dilek sitting at the bar close to ex kino.[/QUOTE].
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2843876]Who is Dilek? Never heard that name mentioned by anyone here, is she still working?
.[/QUOTE]Small brunette with big falling naturals competing with Brenda for heavy. I didn't see her since a while. Tamara who worked 1 week on June 2018 also had impressive naturals.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2843724]Chloe recently got a perm and her body is very tan from the Solarium. There is not an ounce of fat on her. She does ask for 200 for 60 minutes. Her usual place is on the right side of the bar directly opposite the stripper pole sitting with Liz, Emma and gang.[/QUOTE]Not sure real kissing for 200/60 , when more and more girls ask extra 50,150/30 or 250/60 . When often without business, Kloe could be a superstar if she was full naked and not staying with bar Romanian gang. Too professionnal killing GFE, but I experienced her real honesty when I mistook. For sure, not chubby at all when I would say around 46 kgs despite naturals.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843555]Well, I'm open for ideas. Do you have any better suggestions for clubs at the moment in Germany?
After Golden Times in Brueggen burned to the ground, NRW is more or less dead for me because IMHO all the other clubs suck. I was never a fan of Living Room, and I always avoided Oceans because it was another rip-off tourist trap with their pricing 'strategy' of trying to rip off customers if they arrived by taxi or having to pay for food etc.
What else is there? Villa Vertigo? Oase? Mainhattan? Palace? Artemis?
No thanks, just read the poor reviews and you know enough. I already predicted this in 2020-2021 that the lockdowns and all the "pandemic" bullshit would be disastrous for the economy in general and FKK clubs in particular in Germany and now we see the result.
Another prediction I made is that the left-socialist parties (and that includes the CDU which has Merkel turned into just another franchise SPD-Green party) in Germany will follow what the left-socialist-Schwab-Soros parties have already 'achieved' in other countries like Sweden, France, and Ireland: closing down clubs and outlawing prostitution.
[URL]https://www.bild.de/politik/2023/politik/prostitution-in-deutschland-kommt-bald-ein-bordell-verbot-84971158.bild.html[/URL]
'Politicians want a new law Will brothels soon be outlawed?
According to some 'study' they now claim that '90% of the women in the prostitution business' are being abused. Yes, you read that right: NINETY PERCENT!
'Women must endure heavy bodily violence from customers and pimps on a daily basis' said Mack, 'that's why they suffer from psychological traumas similar to victims of torture and veterans of war. '.
Just like with all the Covid 'deaths' and the Climate change' hype, do we now again see shameless exaggerations sold to the sheeple as 'science' by the 'media' in order to push a certain narrative?
Just a little thought experiment: what's the last time any of you saw a girl walk down the stairs in Sharks looking all bloodied with bruises and black eyes ("schwere Koerperverletzung" = severe bodily harm.) after a room with a customer? And then they [I]suggest[/I] with clever writing that this happens to NINETY PERCENT of the girls, on a DAILY basis? Really? WTF!?
P.S. The Greens pretend to be against outlawing prostitution, but they usually do this bait-and-switch trick: pretend to be in favour of personal freedoms ("my body, my choice") but then they collectively vote along with the Brown Fascists under the guise of 'protecting the general public. '.[/QUOTE]No more Vertigo / Vanila where had great nights, but GG now which is higher level than Bruggen for a very different guy like me, my best quality and value in whole FKK land for woman types for elegance and GFE. On the day I saw my Russian full red for communism, I was like a bull and wanted her, I don t often feel desire like this. When I know I m different, I don t care about German, NL, french forums, I just go my own way like Fleetwood Mac on Rumours and make the job with girls without needing rules, I prefer without. Other good value in NRW is Penelope. Your others are not in NRW, except LR which is not what it was.
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Sharks visit
Greetings to everyone. I visited the club on 28 July - 5 August. 5 days in a row, 6 days in total. The weather was not good even though it was summer. I haven't been since March to club. Since I don't live in Germany; I come purely for club visit. Therefore, I enter an average of 3 4 days in each visit. I know other clubs but this is my favourite. During this time, I went to the room 14 times. The heat of the place prevented me from running any further. So much so that even sleeping inside was uncomfortable at times. Friday, July 28th. I like to come to this club on Fridays the most. It's not too crowded and there are too many girls. The 15 euro discount on Wednesday makes the inside unbearable. It's hard to understand how so small money makes it so attractive. That's why I'm not going on Wednesday. It gets crowded on Saturday too, but there is nothing to do. Before moving on to my experiences; I like Kayra-serbian and Yana. But neither of them was working, I think they went on vacation to Spain. For the new visitor: from damrstadt hbf to sharks via walking: it gets 15-16 min. Taxi cab 12 euro. Till the September 23 the tunnel is under construction this is why S3 works between Lousia. Darmstadt HBF. Take the RE trains to move fast.
28 July: arrive around 20.30. Almost all the days ı visited the food was OK. For a Friday ıt was quite calm. After 21.00 they give loudy music and the ambiance makes it good.
Samy: Her hair is blonde, I know her before. This was my 4th meeting with him. She is sitting with Amy at the entrance of the restaurant. There's the German desk. She is wearing colored underwear. Almost always high energy. One of my favorite girls in the place. She almost uses her soul while making love. I once had a massage all over her body as a gift. Maybe not always, but I repeat from time to time. She deserves it. No any up-seel. No any unnecessary act. A cool girl to me. Like her. Even can a good HJ from her. She is totally for this club.
Felin: a romanian girl. Black, long, straight hair. She has a beautiful and fit physique. Very slightly wide nose. There are no tattoos. Sometimes she wears a black see-through outfit. I've never seen it in the club before. Although I predicted the end of the game, I still wanted to try it. She was nt very active in the room. She couldn't pass my class especially in oral. Even though I knew the result, I went to the room because I liked the girl. Purpose is to experience. No repeat again, never. She sits close to aquarium area on the coachs.
Agnıs: ı think ı wrote her name in a true way. A polish girl. Her face looks like a bit russian-ish. As ı spoke to one another man and he confirmed too, she is from pollland. Has a tattoo on the left arm with a lion figure. You can't miss her. She wears something like a black wais belt. ı do not know what is this. She sits at the german table, while passing the rest door at the left. A good proportion. She is friendly. No arroganism. No upsell in the room. She is a runner. A good BBBJ, several positions, and a deserved relaxion. She is totaly represents herself to you. A good room. Repeatable.
29 July:
Have been to club around 20.00. Even it was Saturday was andıt so crowded. Had two room in that time.
Catalea: the first time room with her and this will not be the last one. As most of you know; a 180 , model look body, quite perfect girl. She is a present for those who visits the sharks. Good communication, no arroganism, friendly. Except kissing. Full contact (kissing is not matter for me). In a life ı found such a classy girl in this place and ı had a room with her. Gave her a tip as well. Next time again one or two room will be. ı like slim-long girls. She mostly becomes busy.
Leyla. Of Turkish descent. Since I am Turkish, I can understand whether she is a real Turkish or a Bulgarian Turkish. Because there are also those who say they are Turkish but of Bulgarian origin. And I don't like them. Gzel bir iletişI'm, gleryzl bir kadıand. Kısa boylu, biraz kilolu. Balık etli. She has tattoos on her belly and a few other places. After a short talk, we went to the room. I don't think it's necessary to go into too much detail: it's short and concise; This is the value for money. Oral sex, different positions, a woman who doesn't get tired easily. One of the best I've ever met. BBBJ and positions quite good.
30 July:
ı have been on Sunday as well. But not a late time. It was around 15.00 , had nothing to do at the am main and came to club. Not was a big crowd. ı was tired this is why ı went up to jacuzzi area and had a sleep. It was 8 in the evening ı turn back to downstairs. Had a bath, eat something, an espresso and was ready to run.
Aaliyah: ı know her before. But ı did not speak any time before that day. ı think she is so nice woman. She is romanian. When you enter to main area you can see her opposite to money cabinets, before pole area. At the edge side of main bar. She mostly goes around with her lovely friend. Maria. Has tattoo. Long black hairs. For me: she the one of three most beautiful woman of all. While ı was sitting under the aquarium, several girl came to meet and ı did andıt want them. And finally she was passing and ı was looking to that beauty. First impression for a close look and we met. We spoke around ten min, and went to room. All is OK. ı had a room with her again 1 of August. She is my regular.
Renata: a romanian girl loves tattoos and piercing. Black straight hair. She has a somewhat serious face. Serious look? She wears black socks from time to time. In The club also sits on sofas. There is a tree right behind it. At the middle of aquarium and bar area. As she told do not go to sport but she has a perfect body type. Her boobs are not original but OK. This was the longest room for me all my four years sharks experience till now. 36 minutes we stayed. Yes ı have a watch and ı count. Before first touch we spoke. We chatted. She never looked to time and never gave a feedback for time. Her waist is thin, her physique is beautiful, she is fit, she is not worn out. O good deserved BBBJ, no rush, slow motion, good skill. 3 different position. She a good friend if I want to run. If you haven't spoken, she looks serious, but her communication is very good. A perfect time. Thanks to her. Tipped 10 eur.
31 July: fiona: a polish girl as she says. Looks a bit arrogant. But when you speak to her comunication is Ok. She sometimes sits on the sofa near the entrabce door. A long but bonde hair. Or some colour close to blonde. As far as ı remember there is a small tattoo up the left breast. Her body is very good. But her abilities are not as good as her body, It could be very good if it makes up for its shortcomings. She needs to develop her love- skills. At least was a good experience. Almost OK.
Kardi: a pretty girl. Really nice. I can say tall. Her teeth are very good. Her skin is beautiful. Her hair is cool. Youth. She combines very well with her high energy and beautiful body. She looks like spanish. She is good one. Has small boobs. ı think she will have an operation for this business. As far as I remember she mostly stands and walks but sits close to aquarium. A small tattoo? No need to write more than this. I like such body type. In the room she was so so. If she doesn't act in a rush, would be better. No upsell, no any bad attitude. ı will give her another chance, along next visit.
August 1 - aaliyah; ı explained above, this was my second room with her. She is OK.
Maria: sits close to aliyah. ı just wanted to experience her without any reason while she was coming to me. Wir? NO. No rush, no upsell, but but nothing is special as well. An ordinary room.
Baileys: ı was sitting on the bar area. Was drinking. Suddenly a girl came next to me. The parfume she used was perfect. And because of that, I couldn't help myself to talk to the girl. A german girl as she says. ı have never seen her before. In the room she was so-so. Wir? NO. No need to more explanation.
August 6 - mia original german girl? : a nice looking girl with something like fishnet stocking. ı can't speak deutsch yet so goood, this is why ı can't understand is she original german or not. Anyway: in the room got one the best BBBJ. Sloopy, no rush. Even just for BJ ı will meet her again in another time. Gave her 10 eur tip. OK session.
Victoria: a romanish girl. She has a tattoo under her neck. An eagle or wing figure. I have known her before. This was our 3rd to room. She sits next to blacky girls, before spets to jacuzzi area, while going to wc, at your right hand. It was the longest sex I've ever had in the club. She has a different energy. Her hair is short, black. You know, there are some books, you look at the cover, it attracts you. My first room was like this issue. ı watched her, looked from different angle and hit the gass. ı found a mind. In this place, in Darmstadt, İand Frankfurt, Hessen. She gaves me 2. The best ever in this club. The first one is İsabella. A czech girl but she is on holiday. ı share the room with viki time to time. She gives me what ı need. No rush. No ever upsell, no bad act. It's like, I found the key and lock match. Totally OK.
All of my room was 100430. ı do not go for longer sessions. All was BBBJ. Except Felin all was OK. Viki, leyla, ignes and catalea were perfect. The best BBBJ was from Mia. The longer session was with Renata. The girl I like most Aliyah. The best body was Catalea. A model type, perfect feeling. One day ı will have a longer time with her. Samy gave a great time as well. She knows how to do and she realize what is she doing and for what she does. My five time on Friday and Tuesday. Was a good trip to this lovely place. Yet, its my fav place all in europe. After frankfurt ı had been to amsterdam and rotterdam and thesseldorf too. Nothing special for mongering in all these places. Red lights is not for me. In conclusion, I would like to say that the ambiance of this place is unrivaled. Neither oase nor palace nor samya nor other places nor Amsterdam red Lights can compete. A real FKK club, literally.
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Those girls don't allow CIM.
[QUOTE=Gilliat;2843943]Greetings to everyone. I visited the club on 28 July - 5 August. 5 days in a row, 6 days in total. The weather was not good even though it was summer. I haven't been since March to club. Since I don't live in Germany; I come purely for club visit. Therefore, I enter an average of 3 4 days in each visit. I know other clubs but this is my favourite. During this time, I went to the room 14 times. The heat of the place prevented me from running any further. So much so that even sleeping inside was uncomfortable at times. Friday, July 28th. I like to come to this club on Fridays the most. It's not too crowded and there are too many girls. The 15 euro discount on Wednesday makes the inside unbearable. It's hard to understand how so small money makes it so attractive. That's why I'm not going on Wednesday. It gets crowded on Saturday too, but there is nothing to do. Before moving on to my experiences; I like Kayra-serbian and Yana. But neither of them was working, I think they went on vacation to Spain. For the new visitor: from damrstadt hbf to sharks via walking: it gets 15-16 min. Taxi cab 12 euro. Till the September 23 the tunnel is under construction this is why S3 works between Lousia. Darmstadt HBF. Take the RE trains to move fast.
28 July: arrive around 20.30. Almost all the days ı visited the food was OK. For a Friday ıt was quite calm. After 21.00 they give loudy music and the ambiance makes it good.
Samy: Her hair is blonde, I know her before. This was my 4th meeting with him. She is sitting with Amy at the entrance of the restaurant. There's the German desk. She is wearing colored underwear. Almost always high energy. One of my favorite girls in the place. She almost uses her soul while making love. I once had a massage all over her body as a gift. Maybe not always, but I repeat from time to time. She deserves it. No any up-seel. No any unnecessary act. A cool girl to me. Like her. Even can a good HJ from her. She is totally for this club.
Felin: a romanian girl. Black, long, straight hair. She has a beautiful and fit physique. Very slightly wide nose. There are no tattoos. Sometimes she wears a black see-through outfit. I've never seen it in the club before. Although I predicted the end of the game, I still wanted to try it. She was nt very active in the room. She couldn't pass my class especially in oral. Even though I knew the result, I went to the room because I liked the girl. Purpose is to experience. No repeat again, never. She sits close to aquarium area on the coachs.
Agnıs: ı think ı wrote her name in a true way. A polish girl. Her face looks like a bit russian-ish. As ı spoke to one another man and he confirmed too, she is from pollland. Has a tattoo on the left arm with a lion figure. You can't miss her. She wears something like a black wais belt. ı do not know what is this. She sits at the german table, while passing the rest door at the left. A good proportion. She is friendly. No arroganism. No upsell in the room. She is a runner. A good BBBJ, several positions, and a deserved relaxion. She is totaly represents herself to you. A good room. Repeatable.
29 July:
Have been to club around 20.00. Even it was Saturday was andıt so crowded. Had two room in that time.
Catalea: the first time room with her and this will not be the last one. As most of you know; a 180 , model look body, quite perfect girl. She is a present for those who visits the sharks. Good communication, no arroganism, friendly. Except kissing. Full contact (kissing is not matter for me). In a life ı found such a classy girl in this place and ı had a room with her. Gave her a tip as well. Next time again one or two room will be. ı like slim-long girls. She mostly becomes busy.
Leyla. Of Turkish descent. Since I am Turkish, I can understand whether she is a real Turkish or a Bulgarian Turkish. Because there are also those who say they are Turkish but of Bulgarian origin. And I don't like them. Gzel bir iletişI'm, gleryzl bir kadıand. Kısa boylu, biraz kilolu. Balık etli. She has tattoos on her belly and a few other places. After a short talk, we went to the room. I don't think it's necessary to go into too much detail: it's short and concise; This is the value for money. Oral sex, different positions, a woman who doesn't get tired easily. One of the best I've ever met. BBBJ and positions quite good.
30 July:
ı have been on Sunday as well. But not a late time. It was around 15.00 , had nothing to do at the am main and came to club. Not was a big crowd. ı was tired this is why ı went up to jacuzzi area and had a sleep. It was 8 in the evening ı turn back to downstairs. Had a bath, eat something, an espresso and was ready to run.
Aaliyah: ı know her before. But ı did not speak any time before that day. ı think she is so nice woman. She is romanian. When you enter to main area you can see her opposite to money cabinets, before pole area. At the edge side of main bar. She mostly goes around with her lovely friend. Maria. Has tattoo. Long black hairs. For me: she the one of three most beautiful woman of all. While ı was sitting under the aquarium, several girl came to meet and ı did andıt want them. And finally she was passing and ı was looking to that beauty. First impression for a close look and we met. We spoke around ten min, and went to room. All is OK. ı had a room with her again 1 of August. She is my regular.
Renata: a romanian girl loves tattoos and piercing. Black straight hair. She has a somewhat serious face. Serious look? She wears black socks from time to time. In The club also sits on sofas. There is a tree right behind it. At the middle of aquarium and bar area. As she told do not go to sport but she has a perfect body type. Her boobs are not original but OK. This was the longest room for me all my four years sharks experience till now. 36 minutes we stayed. Yes ı have a watch and ı count. Before first touch we spoke. We chatted. She never looked to time and never gave a feedback for time. Her waist is thin, her physique is beautiful, she is fit, she is not worn out. O good deserved BBBJ, no rush, slow motion, good skill. 3 different position. She a good friend if I want to run. If you haven't spoken, she looks serious, but her communication is very good. A perfect time. Thanks to her. Tipped 10 eur.
31 July: fiona: a polish girl as she says. Looks a bit arrogant. But when you speak to her comunication is Ok. She sometimes sits on the sofa near the entrabce door. A long but bonde hair. Or some colour close to blonde. As far as ı remember there is a small tattoo up the left breast. Her body is very good. But her abilities are not as good as her body, It could be very good if it makes up for its shortcomings. She needs to develop her love- skills. At least was a good experience. Almost OK.
Kardi: a pretty girl. Really nice. I can say tall. Her teeth are very good. Her skin is beautiful. Her hair is cool. Youth. She combines very well with her high energy and beautiful body. She looks like spanish. She is good one. Has small boobs. ı think she will have an operation for this business. As far as I remember she mostly stands and walks but sits close to aquarium. A small tattoo? No need to write more than this. I like such body type. In the room she was so so. If she doesn't act in a rush, would be better. No upsell, no any bad attitude. ı will give her another chance, along next visit.
August 1 - aaliyah; ı explained above, this was my second room with her. She is OK.
Maria: sits close to aliyah. ı just wanted to experience her without any reason while she was coming to me. Wir? NO. No rush, no upsell, but but nothing is special as well. An ordinary room.
Baileys: ı was sitting on the bar area. Was drinking. Suddenly a girl came next to me. The parfume she used was perfect. And because of that, I couldn't help myself to talk to the girl. A german girl as she says. ı have never seen her before. In the room she was so-so. Wir? NO. No need to more explanation.
August 6 - mia original german girl? : a nice looking girl with something like fishnet stocking. ı can't speak deutsch yet so goood, this is why ı can't understand is she original german or not. Anyway: in the room got one the best BBBJ. Sloopy, no rush. Even just for BJ ı will meet her again in another time. Gave her 10 eur tip. OK session.
Victoria: a romanish girl. She has a tattoo under her neck. An eagle or wing figure. I have known her before. This was our 3rd to room. She sits next to blacky girls, before spets to jacuzzi area, while going to wc, at your right hand. It was the longest sex I've ever had in the club. She has a different energy. Her hair is short, black. You know, there are some books, you look at the cover, it attracts you. My first room was like this issue. ı watched her, looked from different angle and hit the gass. ı found a mind. In this place, in Darmstadt, İand Frankfurt, Hessen. She gaves me 2. The best ever in this club. The first one is İsabella. A czech girl but she is on holiday. ı share the room with viki time to time. She gives me what ı need. No rush. No ever upsell, no bad act. It's like, I found the key and lock match. Totally OK.
All of my room was 100430. ı do not go for longer sessions. All was BBBJ. Except Felin all was OK. Viki, leyla, ignes and catalea were perfect. The best BBBJ was from Mia. The longer session was with Renata. The girl I like most Aliyah. The best body was Catalea. A model type, perfect feeling. One day ı will have a longer time with her. Samy gave a great time as well. She knows how to do and she realize what is she doing and for what she does. My five time on Friday and Tuesday. Was a good trip to this lovely place. Yet, its my fav place all in europe. After frankfurt ı had been to amsterdam and rotterdam and thesseldorf too. Nothing special for mongering in all these places. Red lights is not for me. In conclusion, I would like to say that the ambiance of this place is unrivaled. Neither oase nor palace nor samya nor other places nor Amsterdam red Lights can compete. A real FKK club, literally.[/QUOTE]You tried so many girls. You spent a lot of money. However, I can tell you that those girls do NOT allow CIM.
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Yes, Agnes with blue eyes sitting on German table but many Germans don't sit there anymore, is Polish. She was a superstar at Sharks on 2015 , had several rooms with her at that time, even it was sometimes complicated for our communication and nothing about language when she speak english.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2844120]You tried so many girls. You spent a lot of money. However, I can tell you that those girls do NOT allow CIM.[/QUOTE]I prefer to fuck, I think I m a fucker, rather than CIM, but I need to find a attractive or I m not able. Funny, some Sharks girls would think I fuck too much while sex and maybe they feel something inside.
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Cim
[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2844120]You tried so many girls. You spent a lot of money. However, I can tell you that those girls do NOT allow CIM.[/QUOTE] Did not ask for CIM and yes, you can tell the truth, maybe they do not allow CIM. Do not live in Germany this is why visit for long time.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2843555].....Just a little thought experiment: what's the last time any of you saw a girl walk down the stairs in Sharks looking all bloodied with bruises and black eyes ("schwere Koerperverletzung" = severe bodily harm.) after a room with a customer?......[/QUOTE]A few years ago I witnessed a Russian woman on stairs after a room with a customer who was badly bruised and suffered a broken leg. She had fallen down the stairs in her stiletto heel shoes.
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Super dumb question:
Is this a towel around the waist place for dudes, or robes?
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[QUOTE=Gilliat;2844204]Did not ask for CIM and yes, you can tell the truth, maybe they do not allow CIM. Do not live in Germany this is why visit for long time.[/QUOTE]Many like Kloe or Agnes are not full naked at Sharks, less and less a real FKK, more and more following porn, but I resist, I pay only for women, not for porn images, a french friend visiting weekly pay for porn.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2844215]A few years ago I witnessed a Russian woman on stairs after a room with a customer who was badly bruised and suffered a broken leg. She had fallen down the stairs in her stiletto heel shoes.[/QUOTE]The OP was making a politically driven straw man post that used the most visible spot of a mega club in a legal brothel in Western Europe as a representation of all of the dark and seedy elements.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844277]Super dumb question:
Is this a towel around the waist place for dudes, or robes?[/QUOTE]Both, but the majority wear robes.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2844277]Super dumb question:
Is this a towel around the waist place for dudes, or robes?[/QUOTE]Freedom at Sharks for girls and you can choose towel or robe. I remember few full naked.
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Seem more and more girls asking now 150/30 for kissing and I don t know about kissing quality, trying to fuck tourists on Summer, but some Germans are able to pay tequila or champagne and go with a 250/60 for few hours. Some Germans are ready to pay thousands when they are crazy for a girl, some old or fat proposing very big money = very many thousands to make stop this business and go with them, I think Asians can t compete. I m happy I paid 200/90 several times and she came for me, but I won t run after, even I will be happy to enjoy her again, probably out of Sharks now. On September, Oase should become better value with less upselling than spreading now at Sharks. Nevertheless, Sena, Alina, Sabrina, Tara, remain good value.
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Spanish Ariana
Any signs of Spanish Ariana? Did she quit the business?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2844472]Seem more and more girls asking now 150/30 for kissing and I don t know about kissing quality, trying to fuck tourists on Summer, but some Germans are able to pay tequila or champagne and go with a 250/60 for few hours. Some Germans are ready to pay thousands when they are crazy for a girl, some old or fat proposing very big money = very many thousands to make stop this business and go with them, I think Asians can t compete. I m happy I paid 200/90 several times and she came for me, but I won t run after, even I will be happy to enjoy her again, probably out of Sharks now. On September, Oase should become better value with less upselling than spreading now at Sharks. Nevertheless, Sena, Alina, Sabrina, Tara, remain good value.[/QUOTE]These are almost American prices!
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2844621]Any signs of Spanish Ariana? Did she quit the business?[/QUOTE]Not seen from Saturday to Monday. Maybe she had too many problems at Sharks, like a German, when some guys who play rich but are not able to pay at the end. I don t understand why club don t call polizei to make them pay. As I told my German, she should have asked to call polizei, but she was too fresh new in business, so maybe these locals or Germans thought they wouldn t need to pay, they just should look at them in mirror to understand they were so lucky she accepted, even for money if they paid, to go with them, for pure beauty and ugly beast.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2844636]These are almost American prices![/QUOTE]Can't comment on American prices but the quoted prices seem to be pretty much on par with Swiss and Austrian FKK prices.
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[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2844652]Can't comment on American prices but the quoted prices seem to be pretty much on par with Swiss and Austrian FKK prices.[/QUOTE]Some little Romanians are going crazy to fuck tourists and not only Asians. As already told, like for babies, the smallest the most expensive, when women are less expensive than little girls at Sharks, when some guys seem to cure frustration from what they couldn t get at school.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2844621]Any signs of Spanish Ariana? Did she quit the business?[/QUOTE]Last week, I had a good session with a new slim pretty A-cup girl who claims to be an Italian from Sicily. She said that the club gave her the name Ariana. That means that your Spanish Ariana is gone as the name has been recycled.
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[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2844652]Can't comment on American prices but the quoted prices seem to be pretty much on par with Swiss and Austrian FKK prices.[/QUOTE]Germanic countries by no coincidence.
Once upon a time it was like 1/2 the US cost in FKKs. I'm thankful for RTCs.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2844852]Last week, I had a good session with a new slim pretty A-cup girl who claims to be an Italian from Sicily. She said that the club gave her the name Ariana. That means that your Spanish Ariana is gone as the name has been recycled.[/QUOTE]Or on holidays since more than 3 weeks, then club give name to another. What happened for Kloe who was Katalea when starting because model type was off since a while.
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[QUOTE=KombatWombat;2844652]Can't comment on American prices but the quoted prices seem to be pretty much on par with Swiss and Austrian FKK prices.[/QUOTE]FKKs are far cheaper than America for the same quality.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2844472]Seem more and more girls asking now 150/30 for kissing and I don t know about kissing quality, trying to fuck tourists on Summer, but some Germans are able to pay tequila or champagne and go with a 250/60 for few hours. Some Germans are ready to pay thousands when they are crazy for a girl, some old or fat proposing very big money = very many thousands to make stop this business and go with them, I think Asians can t compete. I m happy I paid 200/90 several times and she came for me, but I won t run after, even I will be happy to enjoy her again, probably out of Sharks now. On September, Oase should become better value with less upselling than spreading now at Sharks. Nevertheless, Sena, Alina, Sabrina, Tara, remain good value.[/QUOTE]This is the post I referred to as having prices close to those in the US (ie too high.) Eg 150 for 30 minutes twice is $300/ HR, a reasonable US escort fee.
P.s. No need to lecture about different levels of service.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2844472]Seem more and more girls asking now 150/30 for kissing and I don t know about kissing quality, trying to fuck tourists on Summer, but some Germans are able to pay tequila or champagne and go with a 250/60 for few hours. Some Germans are ready to pay thousands when they are crazy for a girl, some old or fat proposing very big money = very many thousands to make stop this business and go with them, I think Asians can t compete. I m happy I paid 200/90 several times and she came for me, but I won t run after, even I will be happy to enjoy her again, probably out of Sharks now. On September, Oase should become better value with less upselling than spreading now at Sharks. Nevertheless, Sena, Alina, Sabrina, Tara, remain good value.[/QUOTE]To read on German forum, Germans paying 250/40 or 300/90 without CIM nor anal. Some paying more than 1000 a girl on a day.
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Maxima
[QUOTE=Canary;2841282]Are you sure you've got the name right?
I can't recall any girl with that name at Sharks.
Any further details you could add to her description plus where she normally resides?[/QUOTE]I didn't see her there before July 30. She said she was new there, and she has short brunette hair.
She said that she lives in France and was only at Sharks for a month while on vacation from her regular job.
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So what am I supposed to pay for 30 minutes with a hottie. I'm not interested in sucking toes or making love, I just want the hottest looking thing I can find to get my rocks off in between snoozing, eating, snoozing, sauna, etc.
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[QUOTE=MongerNomad;2845662]I didn't see her there before July 30. She said she was new there, and she has short brunette hair.
She said that she lives in France and was only at Sharks for a month while on vacation from her regular job.[/QUOTE]Tunisian born, with time in France and for escorting. Yes she arrived at Sharks on July but not new in business. Also Emili claiming to be French but speak Romanian when I learned Russian in french school but never saw to learn Romanian, even France and Romania had real connection behind the wall.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2845422]This is the post I referred to as having prices close to those in the US (ie too high.) Eg 150 for 30 minutes twice is $300/ HR, a reasonable US escort fee.
P.s. No need to lecture about different levels of service.[/QUOTE]Yup, nothing new, I mentioned that as well:
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2835784]For example: Switzerland is more expensive (although with the increased rates and deteriorated 'service' at Sharks, this price gap has significantly narrowed), but then go for [B]far higher quality[/B] sessions and make a compromise to go with perhaps fewer girls, instead of continuing to pay more and more for shitty service in Germany? When spending approximately 500 Euros / CHF would you rather have 3 great GFE or PSE sessions in Switzerland, or 5 mediocre sessions in Germany?
When counting all the money you lose on shitty sessions in Germany, perhaps Switzerland is just as expensive (or cheap, depending on your viewpoint) as Germany, but without the hassle?[/QUOTE]As I also mentioned before, I've been cutting down my Sharks visits for quite some time now. With the amount of clueless tourist simps spending like total idiots there, it's simply not worth the Russian Roulette risk of a bad session. Switzerland is just as expensive and far more reliable.
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2835784]I can't (yet) speak for other clubs in Switzerland, and sure, Globe has a lot of strange rules and policies, but so far I've always have had a [B]100% satisfaction rate[/B] with [B]randomly picked girls[/B] (purely by optics) when visiting Globe. I can't say the same for Sharks where you're more or less playing Russian Roulette when picking a random girl you don't know and haven't fucked before.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2845715]So what am I supposed to pay for 30 minutes with a hottie. I'm not interested in sucking toes or making love, I just want the hottest looking thing I can find to get my rocks off in between snoozing, eating, snoozing, sauna, etc.[/QUOTE]I see things the same way, I don't want or need any of that stuff either. I'm not looking to get married or looking for validation for my 'amour-making' skills with my '30 cm' dick that I can then brag about in thousands of posts on an internet forum. I just want to fuck for a little money as possible, relax and recover, and then find the next hot girl.
What you're supposed to pay? In my opinion 50430 is a fair price for a quickie fuck and suck, like things were before the "pandemic," but that is almost impossible these days. Girls prefer to make less money while sitting around for hours smoking cigarettes, hoping and waiting for the idiot who pays 150430.
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I think at the moment, some Germans and locals are paying the craziest rates at Sharks, just to read on their forum.
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[QUOTE=Nyezhov;2845715]So what am I supposed to pay for 30 minutes with a hottie. I'm not interested in sucking toes or making love, I just want the hottest looking thing I can find to get my rocks off in between snoozing, eating, snoozing, sauna, etc.[/QUOTE]I see things in a similar same way: I don't want or need any of that stuff either. I'm not looking to get married, spend hours talking to some 'intellectual' who sucks dicks for a living, or looking for validation for my 'amour-making' skills with my '30 cm' dick that I can then brag about in thousands of posts on an internet forum. I just want to fuck for a little money as possible, relax, eat, and recover, and then find the next hottie.
What you're supposed to pay? In my opinion 50 is a fair price for a quickie fuck and suck, like things were before the "pandemic," but that is almost impossible these days. Girls prefer to make less money while sitting around for hours smoking cigarettes, hoping and waiting for the idiot who pays 15
Let's hope prices and service will normalize again once the simp-vacation season is over.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2845860]Girls prefer to make less money while sitting around for hours smoking cigarettes, hoping and waiting for the idiot who pays 150430.[/QUOTE]P.S. This IMHO is the ultimate proof that [I]most[/I] girls are not 'managed' by some kind of 'boyfriend,' because these 'boyfriends' would quickly notice the drop in income and force these girls to either work harder or revert back to the old pricing which would generate more income for them.
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What's the keyword to find the site?
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2845903]I think at the moment, some Germans and locals are paying the craziest rates at Sharks, just to read on their forum.[/QUOTE]
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Sharks w / "Bad" Weather
I'm thinking about visiting Germany next week, but it looks like the weather may be bad. I've been to Sharks before but when it was sunny and hot. How is it when the weather is bad? Are there less people and talent?
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2846151]What's the keyword to find the site?[/QUOTE]LSH lustcout for crazy spending Germans in love with little Romanians from frustration they got at school. They made some increasing to 150/30 or 250/60 with FK, after increasing under covid lockdown.
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I was in Sharks recently, without any negotiating I paid the normal 100430 rate, and paid one particular girl 50430 (plus a tip) because we know each other for many years and we have a very good connection, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
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The lineup is quite miserable last few days with gorgeous weather. I actually hope the cooler temperature will attract more girls to show up this weekend.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2846166]I'm thinking about visiting Germany next week, but it looks like the weather may be bad. I've been to Sharks before but when it was sunny and hot. How is it when the weather is bad? Are there less people and talent?[/QUOTE]
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No problem
I've only ever been in the winter when it was cold and never been able to park in the lot. So yeah, no problem and no shortage of sizes and shapes.
[QUOTE=Evx69;2846166]I'm thinking about visiting Germany next week, but it looks like the weather may be bad. I've been to Sharks before but when it was sunny and hot. How is it when the weather is bad? Are there less people and talent?[/QUOTE]
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Here this weekend
Coming this weekend, is Bibi still there?
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A rate don't mean much now at Sharks, depending what is provided and quality of providing for kissing and BJ. Yes, can still find 50/30 for fast suck and fuck, but more and more girls ask extra 50 for FK, meaning 150/30 or even 250/60, more expensive than escorts.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2846514]A rate don't mean much now at Sharks, depending what is provided and quality of providing for kissing and BJ. Yes, can still find 50/30 for fast suck and fuck, but more and more girls ask extra 50 for FK, meaning 150/30 or even 250/60, more expensive than escorts.[/QUOTE]First increasing was under covid lockdown due to Germans and locals painful balls, to 100/30 and 150/60 but no entry to pay, nevertheless had many 100/60 full GFE for a lover like me and with my best and most elegant Sharks 2021 girl, also star since years at Mainhattan. On 2022 , tourists were back and few girls like Katalea increased to 200/60 when her potential in bed don t worth and mostly having 30 mn rooms. But new 2023 rates with new extras are due to Germans and locals when some are crazy about schoolgirls they couldn't probably get at school, or some paying thousands some girls, when tourists or Asians can t compete. I was happy with my 150/80 when she was virgin for months, or several 200/90 with a German who was rare freshness. I don t think rates will go down at Sharks when Germans pay such expensive and also champagne or tequila. Oase should be better value after Summer, even less girls but not sure less quality for looks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2846514]A rate don't mean much now at Sharks, depending what is provided and quality of providing for kissing and BJ. Yes, can still find 50/30 for fast suck and fuck, but more and more girls ask extra 50 for FK, meaning 150/30 or even 250/60, more expensive than escorts.[/QUOTE]I was there for 8 days 2 weeks ago. You can still find good GFE experience for 150/60. It just requires some effort and time to talk to the girls. Just make sure you shower beforehand, approach them with confidence and be nice. =P.
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[QUOTE=Evx69;2846166]I'm thinking about visiting Germany next week, but it looks like the weather may be bad. I've been to Sharks before but when it was sunny and hot. How is it when the weather is bad? Are there less people and talent?[/QUOTE]I don't think the weather has much impact during the summer months. 2 weeks ago it rained everyday but the lineups were still very good with some new faces. All girls come and go when they please. August and September are holiday or vacation time so the girls probably have scheduled time to go back home. The girls who are already there will work regardless of the weather.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2846708]I was there for 8 days 2 weeks ago. You can still find good GFE experience for 150/60. It just requires some effort and time to talk to the girls. Just make sure you shower beforehand, approach them with confidence and be nice. =P.[/QUOTE]I found real GFE for 150/80 or 200/90 , when I won't pay for many looks at Sharks on this Summer.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2846710]I don't think the weather has much impact during the summer months. 2 weeks ago it rained everyday but the lineups were still very good with some new faces. All girls come and go when they please. August and September are holiday or vacation time so the girls probably have scheduled time to go back home. The girls who are already there will work regardless of the weather.[/QUOTE]Yes, holidays time, nothing about heat or rain and not only at Sharks but also in Switzerland.
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[QUOTE=SerpentX;2846452]The lineup is quite miserable last few days with gorgeous weather. I actually hope the cooler temperature will attract more girls to show up this weekend.[/QUOTE]Indeed, lineup kind of sucked when I was there last week.
Many familiar faces missing, not many stunners, and the garden full of men sunbathing.
As many of the stubborn simps and tourists here refuse to acknowledge because they think they know better: July and August are never good months, quite similar to Christmas and Easter.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2846710]I don't think the weather has much impact during the summer months. 2 weeks ago it rained everyday but the lineups were still very good with some new faces. All girls come and go when they please. August and September are holiday or vacation time so the girls probably have scheduled time to go back home. The girls who are already there will work regardless of the weather.[/QUOTE]Almost right, July and August are typical vacation months, September is the month where every returns back to normal and people go back to work.
I don't really agree about the weather, I think it has quite a big impact on how the club operates and you see a big difference in the lineup during the summer months. I see the last time you were in Sharks was in June, have you actually ever been there during July and August?
Most girls indeed don't 'care' about the weather and don't spend much time sunbathing outside because they are there to make money, but making money is a LOT easier for them if the weather is cooler and all the men are all grouped inside and not scattered outside. During hot weather they have to expand their hunting grounds, having to go outside and wobble on those stupid high heels on an uneven garden path trying to motivate men chilling next to the pool to fuck them. So instead of burning money (paying for a flight + paying to live near Darmstadt + paying entrance in Sharks) and wasting energy on unmotivated sunbathing men, a lot of girls decide to take vacation themselves. "If you can't beat them: join them. ".
Relatively few girls venture outside during hot weather and you see very few pickups outside because most men just want to chill near the pool, and inside the club is actually quite empty making it quite difficult for girls to make money. Most girls only come outside during feeding time if there is an outside BBQ.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2846708]I was there for 8 days 2 weeks ago. You can still find good GFE experience for 150/60. It just requires some effort and time to talk to the girls. Just make sure you shower beforehand, approach them with confidence and be nice. =P.[/QUOTE]What does the slash in 50/30 mean and what does FK mean?
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FK? Or FKK
[QUOTE=Gorge2;2847221]What does the slash in 50/30 mean and what does FK mean?[/QUOTE]50/30 means 50 Price per 30 minutes.
FKK is an abbreviation that is found in several european languages, it originaly stems from german and is short for "frei-krper-kultur" (free body culture). It can be found on signs at beaches and lakes, tellng the visitor that he is going to enter an area where it is common to swim and sunbath nude.
FKK does not always mean the same as "clothing optional", sometimes the only accepted way to bath there is in your bithday suit whereever you find such a sign there is a regular beach around somewhere.
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[QUOTE=Izl80;2847249]FKK is an abbreviation that is found in several european languages, it originaly stems from german and is short for "frei-krper-kultur" (free body culture). It can be found on signs at beaches and lakes, tellng the visitor that he is going to enter an area where it is common to swim and sunbath nude.
[/QUOTE]My guess is that Sirioja's FK refers to French Kiss, and not FKK as you do not have to pay the girls an extra 50 euros just to be nude.
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You nailed it 85%
August is when entire Germany is on vacation and men are with their families. When the Conventions trade shows start in September that's when the girls return. Those girls are stuck in the boarding rooms with very little air conditioning. It's not very pleasant during the hot summer months.
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2847173]Almost right, July and August are typical vacation months, September is the month where every returns back to normal and people go back to work.
I don't really agree about the weather, I think it has quite a big impact on how the club operates and you see a big difference in the lineup during the summer months. I see the last time you were in Sharks was in June, have you actually ever been there during July and August?
Most girls indeed don't 'care' about the weather and don't spend much time sunbathing outside because they are there to make money, but making money is a LOT easier for them if the weather is cooler and all the men are all grouped inside and not scattered outside. During hot weather they have to expand their hunting grounds, having to go outside and wobble on those stupid high heels on an uneven garden path trying to motivate men chilling next to the pool to fuck them. So instead of burning money (paying for a flight + paying to live near Darmstadt + paying entrance in Sharks) and wasting energy on unmotivated sunbathing men, a lot of girls decide to take vacation themselves. "If you can't beat them: join them. ".
Relatively few girls venture outside during hot weather and you see very few pickups outside because most men just want to chill near the pool, and inside the club is actually quite empty making it quite difficult for girls to make money. Most girls only come outside during feeding time if there is an outside BBQ.[/QUOTE]
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Attack on Asians at Sharks
I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack.
Can somebody please confirm?
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847544]I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack..[/QUOTE]That's quite an accusation to follow with "can somebody please confirm?" If you don't really know, isn't your finding it "really disturbing" a bit premature? Evidence?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2847547]That's quite an accusation to follow with "can somebody please confirm?" If you don't really know, isn't your finding it "really disturbing" a bit premature? Evidence?[/QUOTE]Let me rephrase my statement from "can somebody please confirm?" to "Did anyone else witness or hear about this attack? I have a confirmed resource who visits Sharks 2-3 times a week and is the witness.
Sorry for the confusion.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847544]I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack..[/QUOTE]You read this on LSH? Not a really reliable forum. When Sharks lose business because of their girls as staff tried to explain them and put 80/30 and 130/60 for new girls and they would attack their clients, when they miss, many past regulars not coming anymore when became too expensive. Don't believe all what is written. I believe what I see. I'm not Asian but foreigner and so often left alone at 5 am, feeling more safe than in Paris my born town. I remember on 2021 reopening when Germans told casting was not good, when better on July 2021 than on this Summer, but they didn't want tourists back and could get real GFE 100/60 with real FK, when Asians don't make girls improving, some becoming Asians specialist when they lost their freshness becoming tired pussy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2847556]You read this on LSH? Not a really reliable forum. When Sharks lose business because of their girls as staff tried to explain them and put 80/30 and 130/60 for new girls and they would attack their clients, when they miss, many past regulars not coming anymore when became too expensive. Don t believe all what is written. I believe what I see. I m not Asian but foreigner and so often left alone at 5 am, feeling more safe than in Paris my born town. I remember on 2021 reopening when Germans told casting was not good, when better on July 2021 than on this Summer, but they didn t want tourists back and could get real GFE 100/60 with real FK, when Asians don t make girls improving, some becoming Asians specialist when they lost their freshness becoming tired pussy.[/QUOTE]Written but erased on LSH. Maybe a angry German who wanted to scare Asians after this week end when I preferred GG better value for quality.
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[QUOTE=Romeo428;2847598]Its true and it happened not in the parking lot but nearby in the road outside.[/QUOTE]And Sharks security also attacked them? I see many Asians taking taxi on parking.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2847613]And Sharks security also attacked them? I see many Asians taking taxi on parking.[/QUOTE]There is no news of this on any of the local German new sites. The person posting confirming has a one post history. Hard to believe that Shark's security would have anything to do with it as this would seriously hurt their business if that was the case. This seems very much like a troll post.
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[QUOTE=Romeo428;2847598]Its true and it happened not in the parking lot but nearby in the road outside.[/QUOTE]Not a nice first post on ISG.
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Nah.
I don't think you would find this on the news. Do you really think they would report to police. "excuse me officer, we were just attacked at a brothel. " This is not something that they'd want to be in the record.
That is terrible if it is true. I'm an Asian and need to think twice now if I should pay a visit. Seriously have no idea where this hatred come from. So sad.
[QUOTE=FredZee;2847644]There is no news of this on any of the local German new sites. The person posting confirming has a one post history. Hard to believe that Shark's security would have anything to do with it as this would seriously hurt their business if that was the case. This seems very much like a troll post.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847544]I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack.
Can somebody please confirm? If true and you are Asian, please be careful out there. There's really no place for Asian Hate. We see enough Asian Hate in America.[/QUOTE]Sounds like an average day mongering in the Philippines if you are a white guy wandering off the beated path (few blocks) in Angeles.
I once hit up a girl on a dating app there who I met at a Burger King at 22:30. Soon after we were going back to her place to pick up some stuff, but the taxi didn't want to take us further. The local mafia owned the next area, and they had their own taxis (some variant of tuktuk's at least). After a few blocks the mafia taxi didn't want to continue either. It was too dangerous. I laughed it of as it wouldn't be the first asian thugs I'd met while travelling the region. Around the next block we found two opposing gangs of 13-15 year old ladyboys all in high heels, lots of lipstick and weapons. Anything from one guy holding a grenade with a finger ready to pull, to another guy with a sawed off shotgun, one guy with a colt pistol, one guy with some M16 and one of them walked up towards me with a machete holding it high. As I started bursting in laughter due to their looks, the girl just told me to look down and hold her hand. The little ladyboy was 50 cm from me when he turned away as we walked past them. Later she told me one of those two gangs had slaughered a fat white guy just 2 weeks prior. This was less than a year before Duerte, the mayor of Manila at the time said he would kill 100 k youth thugs in the manila slums. Go figure!
Now The Philippines s the odd one out in asia, but now and then you meet tons of thugs there also. Especially if you are white. Or ang mo, or farang or any other slang.
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[QUOTE=FredZee;2847644]There is no news of this on any of the local German new sites. The person posting confirming has a one post history. Hard to believe that Shark's security would have anything to do with it as this would seriously hurt their business if that was the case. This seems very much like a troll post.[/QUOTE]It was written on LSH yesterday morning but erased later. I agree I doubt Sharks security attacked Asian clients, kind of a German mad about them on LSH to scare them. Some Germans are angry about foreigners taking girls. Some Germans don t want rare girls to go with others when I was happy if I really gave her pleasure as she said. Funny other experience on this Sunday, not at Sharks, she told me first: don t lick too much, sensitive, but when I started, her body started to shake, she relaxed and orgasm. I asked her: good? She answered: Oh yes. Funny and also girls saying thank you after their pleasure.
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[QUOTE=MaverickWagi;2847728]I don't think you would find this on the news. Do you really think they would report to police. "excuse me officer, we were just attacked at a brothel. " This is not something that they'd want to be in the record.
That is terrible if it is true. I'm an Asian and need to think twice now if I should pay a visit. Seriously have no idea where this hatred come from. So sad.[/QUOTE]Even if it was inside Sharks, when business about prostitution is legal, of course they should call polizei, even staff don t like to see polizei close to club. It was told in the street, so nothing about Sharks.
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Attack update
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2847613]And Sharks security also attacked them? I see many Asians taking taxi on parking.[/QUOTE]My sincere apologies to Sharks security. My source who witnessed the attack says it was very dark and cannot confirm Sharks security is involved. He did not stick around to avoid becoming a victim himself.
The attack happened on the opposite side of the road to the Sharks entrance at 4 am. The attackers used knives as well. I posted this attack just to alert folks of what happened and to be careful out there. I am a big fan of Sharks and any negative news is not good news. Without any context to why the attack happened, I will not comment any further.
Sorry if I offended anyone.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2847706]Not a nice first post on ISG.[/QUOTE]It's possible this first poster may have been involved in the attack but I won't speculate.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847873]My sincere apologies to Sharks security. My source who witnessed the attack says it was very dark and cannot confirm Sharks security is involved. He did not stick around to avoid becoming a victim himself.
The attack happened on the opposite side of the road to the Sharks entrance at 4 am. The attackers used knives as well. I posted this attack just to alert folks of what happened and to be careful out there. I am a big fan of Sharks and any negative news is not good news. Without any context to why the attack happened, I will not comment any further.
Sorry if I offended anyone.[/QUOTE]If really happened other than on LSH, I'm sure if security saw, they would have helped, when Sharks lose business because of too expensive girls, many regulars not coming anymore, so I don't think they want to lose Asians, when Sharks staff try to do best except sometimes the bar. Seem safe around Sharks for a Caucasian foreigner like me, more safe than in Paris where I was born and live since then. My tip for the bar: target old short woman who is sometimes also at the desk, she is good.
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I left the club 3:45 am Monday morning and by then there was no group of Asian in the club. Police were outside about 100 m away from sharks, stopping every car, asking questions and checking I assume alcohol for some. I don't have any knowledge what happened at 4 am. , though.
[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847873]My sincere apologies to Sharks security. My source who witnessed the attack says it was very dark and cannot confirm Sharks security is involved. He did not stick around to avoid becoming a victim himself.
The attack happened on the opposite side of the road to the Sharks entrance at 4 am. The attackers used knives as well. I posted this attack just to alert folks of what happened and to be careful out there. I am a big fan of Sharks and any negative news is not good news. Without any context to why the attack happened, I will not comment any further.
Sorry if I offended anyone.[/QUOTE]
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Fake
There's no way an incident like this would not get reported in the local news. Visiting a brothel in Germany is like visiting any other place. Nothing to hide for anyone. Maybe someone got paid by Sharhs's competitors to post this canard on ISG.
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Sharks visit 26/09
I visited sharks on Saturday at 1300, it was a nice day perfect weather, got ready in 2. 3 seconds and got in the main area, was so happy to be there after not visiting for a year.
There was no more than 10 'average' girls, so decided to go for breakfast until things pick up a little bit. Was harassed along the way by Georgia, that black italian / nigerian girl and that italian GILF silvana or whatever the fuck her name is (she is starting to piss me off, can't believe people still go with her) ; Anyway, around 1500 or 1600 the place get a little more crowded but since I'm into heavy natural boobs, I'm waiting for the right girl, I went around the bar and the sitting area around 70 times, went to the second floor maybe 20 times, but damn no sign of bibi or Brenda or anybody close to them. Since my flight was at 2200, I stayed till the last minute I could, until I had to leave around 19:30; I did not do any rooms nor did I ask anyone for prices, probably one of my worst visits ever, half of the women there are really below average, some of them I wouldn't even fuck for free (also I have a strict policy on fake boobs so they are excluded too), I'm going back to Frankfurt next week and I feel stuck as OASE seems like a tourist trap and Shark will just have to exact same lame ass boring lineup where all the girls are just sitting around looking like straight 5's or have that 'I'm a working girl and proud' look so I'm starting to believe that Escorts would be the only way to save the day.
Also I will be in Koln so maybe I'll consider Samya but I don't want to waste that sunny day in a dark club so might give sharks another try but I'm absolutely gutted that ALL I WANT IS BIG BOOBS and all I see is saggy A cups that look like mushed pancakes with a shitty face that's absolutely not worth 200€. I saw a lot of men come and leave within 2 hours so I might not be the only one feeling this way, maybe the club gets better past 21:00? Guess I'll know next week.
P.S. I was so gutted that I lost all appetite so only had breakfeast and didn't even eat on the plane after.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2847890]There's no way an incident like this would not get reported in the local news. Visiting a brothel in Germany is like visiting any other place. Nothing to hide for anyone. Maybe someone got paid by Sharhs's competitors to post this canard on ISG.[/QUOTE]Believe it or not is up to you. I have no skin in the game and as I stated I go to Sharks quite often. In fact, 3 weeks ago, I was there 7 days in a row.
If the attack happened across the road at 4 am, Sharks security has no obligations if anything happens off their property. As I stated earlier, my source who witnessed the attack visits Sharks quite often as well.
I am positive Sharks would not want negative news like this to get reported. Let's be real.
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2847970]I visited sharks on Saturday at 1300, it was a nice day perfect weather, got ready in 2. 3 seconds and got in the main area, was so happy to be there after not visiting for a year.
There was no more than 10 'average' girls, so decided to go for breakfast until things pick up a little bit. Was harassed along the way by Georgia, that black italian / nigerian girl and that italian GILF silvana or whatever the fuck her name is (she is starting to piss me off, can't believe people still go with her) ; Anyway, around 1500 or 1600 the place get a little more crowded but since I'm into heavy natural boobs, I'm waiting for the right girl, I went around the bar and the sitting area around 70 times, went to the second floor maybe 20 times, but damn no sign of bibi or Brenda or anybody close to them. Since my flight was at 2200, I stayed till the last minute I could, until I had to leave around 19:30; I did not do any rooms nor did I ask anyone for prices, probably one of my worst visits ever, half of the women there are really below average, some of them I wouldn't even fuck for free (also I have a strict policy on fake boobs so they are excluded too), I'm going back to Frankfurt next week and I feel stuck as OASE seems like a tourist trap and Shark will just have to exact same lame ass boring lineup where all the girls are just sitting around looking like straight 5's or have that 'I'm a working girl and proud' look so I'm starting to believe that Escorts would be the only way to save the day.
Also I will be in Koln so maybe I'll consider Samya but I don't want to waste that sunny day in a dark club so might give sharks another try but I'm absolutely gutted that ALL I WANT IS BIG BOOBS and all I see is saggy A cups that look like mushed pancakes with a shitty face that's absolutely not worth 200. I saw a lot of men come and leave within 2 hours so I might not be the only one feeling this way, maybe the club gets better past 21:00? Guess I'll know next week.
P.S. I was so gutted that I lost all appetite so only had breakfeast and didn't even eat on the plane after.[/QUOTE]Less girls, but Oase may be better value and quality than Sharks now, when You are not so demanding if You enjoy Bibi level in bed.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2847890]There's no way an incident like this would not get reported in the local news. Visiting a brothel in Germany is like visiting any other place. Nothing to hide for anyone. Maybe someone got paid by Sharhs's competitors to post this canard on ISG.[/QUOTE]When it was written on Monday morning on LSH and erased in afternoon and parseeker is also on LSH, I think a German had problems about Asians on this Sunday and wrote to scare them. Some Germans would prefer to get girls only for them, without tourists. Remind me at LR when polizei controls, then guys ran like rabbits and my girl was so welcoming I had balls to stay. Funny when I fucked her, polizei entering room to control her registration number. And we kept on. Germans should know some of them pay 250/45 or 300/90 or thousands for girls, more than I or tourists pay.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847972]Believe it or not is up to you. I have no skin in the game and as I stated I go to Sharks quite often. In fact, 3 weeks ago, I was there 7 days in a row.
If the attack happened across the road at 4 am, Sharks security has no obligations if anything happens off their property. As I stated earlier, my source who witnessed the attack visits Sharks quite often as well.
I am positive Sharks would not want negative news like this to get reported. Let's be real.[/QUOTE]You left out the most outrageous part of the original post. That Sharks security were among those beating up Asians. That should demand evidence or be withdrawn.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847874]It's possible this first poster may have been involved in the attack but I won't speculate.[/QUOTE]Can he speak for himself or has he already?
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2847970]...... that italian GILF silvana or whatever the fuck her name is (she is starting to piss me off......[/QUOTE]I have always refused her politely after her numerous attempts at getting me to go to the zimmer. In her last attempt she was rude to me but I kept my nerve. Always be polite with girls you refuse.
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Watermelon in Oase
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2847973]Less girls, but Oase may be better value and quality than Sharks now, when You are not so demanding if You enjoy Bibi level in bed.[/QUOTE]Sharks has far more girls. The only thing better in Oase is the all-you-can-eat watermelons.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2848169]I have always refused her politely after her numerous attempts at getting me to go to the zimmer. In her last attempt she was rude to me but I kept my nerve. Always be polite with girls you refuse.[/QUOTE]Very good advice for any FKK. In fact, be careful not to say "maybe later". Took me a while to learn "Maybe later=ask me again".
Now I'm just polite with a thank you. No!
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2848465]Sharks has far more girls. The only thing better in Oase is the all-you-can-eat watermelons.[/QUOTE]Quantity don't mean quality. At GG with 25 girls, 5 attractive for me, when never 5 attractive at Sharks on this Summer, nor at Globe since years.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2848474]Very good advice for any FKK. In fact, be careful not to say "maybe later". Took me a while to learn "Maybe later=ask me again".
Now I'm just polite with a thank you. No![/QUOTE]With expensive Sharks girls, many more expensive than German escorts when asking 150/30 or 250/60 when not sure they are able to kiss like a woman, I would say: I have no money, like some Germans who come to eat, drink, sauna and just look asses.
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Good point
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2848474]Very good advice for any FKK. In fact, be careful not to say "maybe later". Took me a while to learn "Maybe later=ask me again".
Now I'm just polite with a thank you. No![/QUOTE]Yes, good point. I soon realised that they kept coming back if I said "maybe later". Now I either say no and / or say I prefer ladies with a hair colour different to theirs.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2848639]With expensive Sharks girls, many more expensive than German escorts when asking 150/30 or 250/60 when not sure they are able to kiss like a woman, I would say: I have no money......[/QUOTE]I once told a girl who approached me that I have no more money and she retorted - "Then go home, what are you staying here for?" LOL!
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I was thinking back on my last visit and it dawned on me that 99.9% of the girls at Sharks (or any FKK for that matter) are fully shaved these days, right?
Not a deal breaker for me but I love the look of a well crafted landing strip.
Are there any I missed?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2848791]I once told a girl who approached me that I have no more money and she retorted - "Then go home, what are you staying here for?" LOL![/QUOTE]Answer: I play German, even some spend crazy expensive on some girls, when I won't pay 200/60 for little schoolgirl type Romanians, when 30 mn are too short to really enjoy for me. After no money, even Sylvana should not return.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2848926]Answer: I play German, even some spend crazy expensive on some girls, when I won't pay 200/60 for little schoolgirl type Romanians, when 30 mn are too short to really enjoy for me. After no money, even Sylvana should not return.[/QUOTE]Don't be so sure. When you see Sylvana going with young man it may be that he has very little or no money.
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Sylvana
[QUOTE=Turgid;2849030]Don't be so sure. When you see Sylvana going with young man it may be that he has very little or no money.[/QUOTE]She's gross and disgusting. If I had little to no money, I'd just stay home and yank off versus spend what little money I had on the "dislikes" of her in any fashion, let alone pay to fuck her. She'd have to offer to pay me to fuck her, and still my answer would be no. Yuck!
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2849030]Don't be so sure. When you see Sylvana going with young man it may be that he has very little or no money.[/QUOTE]If a guy can't pay Sylvana, he will have problem. If you tell her: I'm broke, she will let you for the day.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2849044]She's gross and disgusting. If I had little to no money, I'd just stay home and yank off versus spend what little money I had on the "dislikes" of her in any fashion, let alone pay to fuck her. She'd have to offer to pay me to fuck her, and still my answer would be no. Yuck![/QUOTE]She get some of youngest best looking guys and incredible, some come from room with banana on face. On the other hand, old fat bald propose little girls to marry them.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2849086]She get some of youngest best looking guys and incredible, some come from room with banana on face. On the other hand, old fat bald propose little girls to marry them.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely incorrect. She goes with whoever is willing to go with her and this is rarely young good looking guys.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2849095]This is absolutely incorrect. She goes with whoever is willing to go with her and this is rarely young good looking guys.[/QUOTE]I have never been with her but once she whispered in my ear what she'd do to my cock with her tongue and I almost got a hard-on, LOL! I am certain she gives an epic BBBJCIM and some guys cannot resist this.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2849401]I have never been with her but once she whispered in my ear what she'd do to my cock with her tongue and I almost got a hard-on, LOL! I am certain she gives an epic BBBJCIM and some guys cannot resist this.[/QUOTE]I was told her BJ is nothing exceptionnal, but I m pretty sure she educates young good looking to prostate massage, making them scream like little dogs discovering new experience. Also AO noises. 73 yo.
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How do you go about it to facefuck the girls in FKK?
Do you discuss it beforehand as an extra?
Does it just rarely happen there?
I don't mean anything extreme as I'm not huge at all but just a sloppier more aggressive one where its not just "lie down" and her doing it at her pace.
Also is cum on body standard?
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About Evita
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2849407]I was told her BJ is nothing exceptionnal, but I m pretty sure she educates young good looking to prostate massage, making them scream like little dogs discovering new experience. Also AO noises. 73 yo.[/QUOTE]She was 60 years old in year 2016. She is probably 67 years old. By the way, I asked the big ass girl about Evita. She told me that Evita did NOT work in Sharks this year and last year.
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Who is the prettiest gal at a Hessen a club at the moment? After going to sharks, Oase, Palace, and World multiple times over the last few weeks.
I'm pretty sure it's a 35 year old brunette at palace.
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Is it a possibility?
Is BBFS available at Sharks? What is probability you think? Anyone been successful? Any pointers appreciated. Not looking for names or whatever.
Was surprised in Brazil at Scandallo how way it was. I just asked. Was asked some questions and she said ok.
Thanks in advance.
Also,
Who is the best Anal provider at Sharks. I have seen very little to no discussion about that recently? I recall in a visit in 2019, a beach blonde Russian who sat the bar who your me she specialized in anal and took a well endowed African cock with no prob. I called BS and moved on.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2849884]She was 60 years old in year 2016. She is probably 67 years old. By the way, I asked the big ass girl about Evita. She told me that Evita did NOT work in Sharks this year and last year.[/QUOTE]Confirmed born in 1950 . Who is big ass? When I never care about Evita, but I like Cosmina smiling to me and proposing me to fuck her now at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2849943]Confirmed born in 1950 . Who is big ass? When I never care about Evita, but I like Cosmina smiling to me and proposing me to fuck her now at Oase.[/QUOTE]Before COVID pandemic, there was one girl taking sunbathing alone beside the swimming pool. That's her. She worked in Sharks for more than 10 years. She is more than 50 years old but looks much younger.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2850151]Before COVID pandemic, there was one girl taking sunbathing alone beside the swimming pool. That's her. She worked in Sharks for more than 10 years. She is more than 50 years old but looks much younger.[/QUOTE]Big ass has to be Angelika.
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Sharks is overrated. Maybe just for me
Heard a lot about this club, decided to visit a couple weeks ago. It was a Saturday, around 8 pm. No parkings. Waited for a while and decided to go somewhere else to find parking. Finally got a parking.
It was packed inside. Met a talent with a nice body at the counter. Wonder I would see her later, but held on to that thought because I want more options. Looked around and saw only like 2 who are doable.
Spend more time looking, but no luck. Saw one good on from afar but picked up by another man. I tried to wait to see if she comes back when they are done. Waiting for a while and finally saw the girl I met at the counter. Decided to go with her. Standard pricing for 30 m, upcharge for kissing. She's young and beautiful but lack compassion. LFK instead of DFK. Session was just ok. I was so disappointed since there were a lot of girls but not a lot of good looking one, at least compared to other club I've been to.
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[QUOTE=BoomBoomBoom;2849457]How do you go about it to facefuck the girls in FKK?
Do you discuss it beforehand as an extra?
Does it just rarely happen there?
I don't mean anything extreme as I'm not huge at all but just a sloppier more aggressive one where its not just "lie down" and her doing it at her pace.
Also is cum on body standard?[/QUOTE]The girls have heard every request you can imagine. First get a girl you like and be sure she is comfortable with oral and CIM. And work the conversation. As to COB I would expect any thing outside the condom to be extra except maybe hand finish.
Someone asked about BBFS below. In my experience that's rare. My only personal experience has been girls who have replied to me when I've asked about CIM that they offer it but not BBFS. Similarly when I've asked about anal and had girls say yes but with condom only. (I've not asked about BB but obviously others have or they would not have said that).
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[QUOTE=TheGuyWith;2850198]Heard a lot about this club, decided to visit a couple weeks ago. It was a Saturday, around 8 pm. No parkings. Waited for a while and decided to go somewhere else to find parking. Finally got a parking.
It was packed inside. Met a talent with a nice body at the counter. Wonder I would see her later, but held on to that thought because I want more options. Looked around and saw only like 2 who are doable.
Spend more time looking, but no luck. Saw one good on from afar but picked up by another man. I tried to wait to see if she comes back when they are done. Waiting for a while and finally saw the girl I met at the counter. Decided to go with her. Standard pricing for 30 m, upcharge for kissing. She's young and beautiful but lack compassion. LFK instead of DFK. Session was just ok. I was so disappointed since there were a lot of girls but not a lot of good looking one, at least compared to other club I've been to.[/QUOTE]Yes, more for quantity than quality and not many girls are good value for money. I find better value elsewhere. But some Germans pay very expensive for this level.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2850151]Before COVID pandemic, there was one girl taking sunbathing alone beside the swimming pool. That's her. She worked in Sharks for more than 10 years. She is more than 50 years old but looks much younger.[/QUOTE]Last year, in summer, I saw Anjelika alone on one of the deck chairs by the pool lying face down and twerking her ass for a good 10 minutes. It must be her way of slowing the growth of her ass.
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[QUOTE=TheGuyWith;2850198]Heard a lot about this club, decided to visit a couple weeks ago. It was a Saturday, around 8 pm. No parkings. Waited for a while and decided to go somewhere else to find parking. Finally got a parking.
....[/QUOTE]I made a mental note of never again visiting Sharks on week-ends (or on Sunday afternoon) because of lack of parking space. Better visit Oase on those days and keep Sharks for week-days.
As far as Oase is concerned, Arkadia Hotel is also a plus (compared to hotels in Darmstadt). I always find free parking next to Arkadia, and the hotel has in-room safes.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2850231]As to COB I would expect any thing outside the condom to be extra except maybe hand finish.[/QUOTE]Again, I respectfully disagree with Tintin's statement, which I find misleading with regard to Hessen clubs.
COB / COT is not a standard service. And no, it is not a fixed extra. You need to have COB cleared with the girl (Is she up for it? Does she want money for it? If so, what kind of money does she expect?).
10- 15 years ago many, but not all girls were up for it, and it was never an extra, given permission was granted. The way it should be IMHO. These days ... well, you need to have everything clarified with the girl.
That said, I have had many sessions at Wellcum with COB for free post c19 (COB/COT seems to be an Italian thing). Many girls at the Hessen clubs offer it as an extra at 50 E (to which I politely decline), but some still offer it for free or a small tip (at least in an extended session).
Just my experience. Nothing is fixed. Anything is possible.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2850378]......10- 15 years ago many, but not all girls were up for it, and it was never an extra......[/QUOTE]10-15 years ago all girls were up for COB and it was an extra.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2849095]This is absolutely incorrect. She goes with whoever is willing to go with her and this is rarely young good looking guys.[/QUOTE]Nonsense, I agree with Siri on this one: when you see her often enough it's amazing how many relatively young and fit looking guys she seems to seduce. I saw her already years ago in GT and there it was the same.
Obviously a lot of low self esteem guys in this world who either don't dare to say "no thanks," guys that are drunk and can't see that well anymore because of the alcohol, or guys who are lacking so much self confidence that they are afraid to approach a prettier girl.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2848169]I have always refused her politely after her numerous attempts at getting me to go to the zimmer. In her last attempt she was rude to me but I kept my nerve. Always be polite with girls you refuse.[/QUOTE]Maybe you're not that often in Sharks because being "rude" and saying a clear "NO" is unfortunately the only language she understands and makes her remember your face next time you're there. I see her almost every time I'm in Sharks and unfortunately this is the only way to make a 'lasting impression' on her and to stop her from constantly approaching you.
[QUOTE=XXL;2850360]I made a mental note of never again visiting Sharks on week-ends (or on Sunday afternoon) because of lack of parking space. Better visit Oase on those days and keep Sharks for week-days.[/QUOTE]Avoid a visit during just because of car parking? LOL!
Never a problem to park in the street, you just have to walk maybe 5 minutes. On a Sunday (when normal business are closed) I always park at the Carglass business next door if there is no room in front of Sharks. [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/HAs95ZSoQU2EGMHDA[/URL].
They used to have an overflow parking lot across the street (across the snackbar called "Schmackes " but unfortunately that has been fenced off now. [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/4BgzWAtPyexdjD3w5[/URL].
Most guys park like morons: leaving a massive amount of space in between cars, but [I]just[/I] not enough space to park another car. I've once suggested to the front desk that they make lines or use those flexible plastic poles to mark standard car park spaces, but of course they don't care.
I've also parked in a side street on working days, only a short 2-3 minute walk and I've never had a problem, just [B]make sure[/B] you don't park on private property and-or block an entrance or exit to a business: [URL]https://goo.gl/maps/xnm419VBwsjfENuf7[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2850405]10-15 years ago ... COB .... was an extra.[/QUOTE]Not my experience at all. But who cares.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2850424]Obviously a lot of low self esteem guys in this world who either don't dare to say "no thanks," guys that are drunk and can't see that well anymore because of the alcohol, or guys who are lacking so much self confidence that they are afraid to approach a prettier girl.[/QUOTE]If they're young and in good shape they'll be approached often enough by prettier girls, that is every other girl in Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850622]If they're young and in good shape they'll be approached often enough by prettier girls, that is every other girl in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily because many prettier girls just sit around, smoke and chat to their female colleagues. Sure, they'll make less money, but they are dumb and lazy, and then like to complain that they don't make much money. LOL!
It's the ugly ones that have to do the aggressive hunting and harassing in order to make enough money to break even.
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850622]prettier girls, that is every other girl in Sharks.[/QUOTE]Depends on your standards. IMHO plenty of ugly girls I wouldn't fuck for free at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2850639]Not necessarily because many prettier girls just sit around, smoke and chat to their female colleagues. Sure, they'll make less money, but they are dumb and lazy, and then like to complain that they don't make much money. LOL!
It's the ugly ones that have to do the aggressive hunting and harassing in order to make enough money to break even.
Depends on your standards. IMHO plenty of ugly girls I wouldn't fuck for free at Sharks.[/QUOTE]I said that Silvana is the least attractive option in Sharks in the eyes of most, that's why I used the phrase "every other girl in Sharks". I wasn't suggesting that she was anything close to "pretty".
Even in middle age I still get approached by some of the lookers because not all of them are lazy about selling their wares. If I'm getting approached, then doubtless the young guys are too.
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[QUOTE=Samplerr;2850622]If they're young and in good shape they'll be approached often enough by prettier girls, that is every other girl in Sharks.[/QUOTE]WGs don't rush to good looking because they know not fat nor bald nor ugly nor nearly dead are more selective. For granny Sylvana, I don't understand how she succeed to get good looking.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2850604]Not my experience at all. But who cares.[/QUOTE]I probably should not dispute with you on this; perhaps you got COB for free back then while they charged me for it.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2850424]......Obviously a lot of low self esteem guys in this world who either don't dare to say "no thanks," guys that are drunk and can't see that well anymore because of the alcohol....].[/QUOTE]When you are under the influence there's nothing better than an agile moist slurpy tongue cavorting with your pecker.
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Visit on Wednesday 6th (Supervisor got involved)
After a bad experience the week before, I made sure I arrive later in the day, so got there around 4 pm, got to site by the bar and was right away approached by Arianna, RO, with black hair, medium tits, I like to go with bigger busts but agreed to go with her for 1/2 HR, 100 ; we got in the room and we started kissing right away, the went down on her for a decent 10 minutes, she had her legs crossed around my neck forcing me to eat that pussy hard. She soon after started sucking my dick hard which I came from with a few minutes (or maybe less), she was so proud of herself telling me its okay, but really any BJ woudve had the same effect, I was horny AF, so I was like lets extend another half an hour for another 100, and ill fuck your brains out now, her pussy was already really wet by this point, so right away I slide it in, and I fuck her in every position known to man, I finally come in doggy, it was overall a nice experience and we both gave it our all, I liked seeing her hopeless face while I was pounding her it was kindof a turn on.
Anyway, moving on, I go get some food and get my powers back for a few hours, I'm on the hunt for a big boobs girl, but all I see is silicone and arrogant girls, anyway I get approached by this french girl, Emily? She claims to be french from Paris and is 20 y/o, we sit in that room next to the massage rooms waiting, we chat a little bit but she seems cold and not very responsive, she says we're going to wait until her favorite room becomes available, anyway we sit on these couches having the coldest small talk ever, anyway after like 20 minutes we get into the room, it all starts when she insists on giving me a massage which I refuse, then I say I only want half an hour and I agree for 100 but she seems very pissed, then she says its 50 extra for uncovered BJ, then I get the ick, I still refuse her offer and I tell her, never mind the BJ, lets just fuck, then she says okay but don't touch my nipple because of piercing LOL, I look at her, get out of the bed, take off the condom, throw it on the floor and I say we're done, she seems shocked and as soon as she realizes I'm 100% serious, she starts yelling and hitting me with the towel on the bed, and yelling 'ARE YOU GAY? YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WITH A Woman? You will pay me 100 E' and I'm like I'm not paying you shit, we didn't do anything. She threatens to call security and storms out of the room, I go to the reception and tell the manager, everything that happened and she says she will handle it, I go on my way after that and don't see her again at all.
I then get a room with suzie, girl with braces and fake boobs, very nice personality, but can't suck dick, kiss or fuck, and that was the day! Sorry for the long report, but its the first time I make a complaint to reception, stand up to yourselves gentlemen! These girls got a big ego and they need to get humbled.
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Emili with big naturals with piercings on nipples, speak Romanian with Romanians, when claiming to be from Mbappe town north east Paris.
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Spoiled by Bootlickers!
[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2851348]After a bad experience the week before, I made sure I arrive later in the day, so got there around 4 pm, got to site by the bar and was right away approached by Arianna, RO, with black hair, medium tits, I like to go with bigger busts but agreed to go with her for 1/2 HR, 100 ; we got in the room and we started kissing right away, the went down on her for a decent 10 minutes, she had her legs crossed around my neck forcing me to eat that pussy hard. She soon after started sucking my dick hard which I came from with a few minutes (or maybe less), she was so proud of herself telling me its okay, but really any BJ woudve had the same effect, I was horny AF, so I was like lets extend another half an hour for another 100, and ill fuck your brains out now, her pussy was already really wet by this point, so right away I slide it in, and I fuck her in every position known to man, I finally come in doggy, it was overall a nice experience and we both gave it our all, I liked seeing her hopeless face while I was pounding her it was kindof a turn on.
Anyway, moving on, I go get some food and get my powers back for a few hours, I'm on the hunt for a big boobs girl, but all I see is silicone and arrogant girls, anyway I get approached by this french girl, Emily? She claims to be french from Paris and is 20 y/o, we sit in that room next to the massage rooms waiting, we chat a little bit but she seems cold and not very responsive, she says we're going to wait until her favorite room becomes available, anyway we sit on these couches having the coldest small talk ever, anyway after like 20 minutes we get into the room, it all starts when she insists on giving me a massage which I refuse, then I say I only want half an hour and I agree for 100 but she seems very pissed, then she says its 50 extra for uncovered BJ, then I get the ick, I still refuse her offer and I tell her, never mind the BJ, lets just fuck, then she says okay but don't touch my nipple because of piercing LOL, I look at her, get out of the bed, take off the condom, throw it on the floor and I say we're done, she seems shocked and as soon as she realizes I'm 100% serious, she starts yelling and hitting me with the towel on the bed, and yelling 'ARE YOU GAY? YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WITH A Woman? You will pay me 100 E' and I'm like I'm not paying you shit, we didn't do anything. She threatens to call security and storms out of the room, I go to the reception and tell the manager, everything that happened and she says she will handle it, I go on my way after that and don't see her again at all.
I then get a room with suzie, girl with braces and fake boobs, very nice personality, but can't suck dick, kiss or fuck, and that was the day! Sorry for the long report, but its the first time I make a complaint to reception, stand up to yourselves gentlemen! These girls got a big ego and they need to get humbled.[/QUOTE]Well done Joe! I only go over and see the FKK girls about once a year but can't believe how spoiled they are by the local bootlickers. I've fought the same battles with them as you. They offer X minutes for X Euros but once you're in the room they say you can't have sex for the X minutes agreed upon before entering the room. The local bootlickers let them off easy hoping to gain their good graces. And the girls think non-locals should agree to the same bullshit. I don't give in to them either. I fuck then until my watch hits the 30 or 60 minutes we agreed upon. And you need to clarify the other details before entering the room. Don't be shy about discussing that stuff with the girls before entering the room.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2850742]WGs don't rush to good looking because they know not fat nor bald nor ugly nor nearly dead are more selective. For granny Sylvana, I don't understand how she succeed to get good looking.[/QUOTE]That old lady has an amazing memory and hasn't talked to me in years. I was never overly rude but I was very clear in not being interested.
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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2851458]That old lady has an amazing memory and hasn't talked to me in years. I was never overly rude but I was very clear in not being interested.[/QUOTE]When she doesn't know You, she doesn't remember You didn't want 1 hour ago and same for some younger ones. When I avoid to speak about money with girls when grocery kill my desire, I tell we will stay according to her behavior and usually working good, when I select woman types, not prostitute image on business and I stop with those who fall like this.
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Her tactic
Well I now realized that the 20 minute wait we had with her sitting on my knees was just her naively trying to build up my horniness, or make me want her more so I would accept whatever she would ask in the room, but it was just a silly tactic! Her insisting to massage me was a real red flag, and reading a lot on this forum has allowed me to spot these fishy behaviours.
Her reaction to all of this and her trying to intimidate me made her look like a spoiled brat but I kept my calm and told her she won't get a dime from me! She then hid in the changing room and me and the woman manager waited for 20 minutes outside for her to come out! We should be ready to go to war with these girls, this is a business, you have to understand that, I don't expect her to like me, I just want to get what I paid for!
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2851451]Well done Joe! I only go over and see the FKK girls about once a year but can't believe how spoiled they are by the local bootlickers. I've fought the same battles with them as you. They offer X minutes for X Euros but once you're in the room they say you can't have sex for the X minutes agreed upon before entering the room. The local bootlickers let them off easy hoping to gain their good graces. And the girls think non-locals should agree to the same bullshit. I don't give in to them either. I fuck then until my watch hits the 30 or 60 minutes we agreed upon. And you need to clarify the other details before entering the room. Don't be shy about discussing that stuff with the girls before entering the room.[/QUOTE].
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Anyone know the name of the lady who has really big natural boobs, a 9/10 face, very pronounced hourglass figure, thin and with tan skin? I only saw her twice momentarily in the club despite me being there all day on Sunday. Was probably in high demand and always in the room.
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2851540]Well I now realized that the 20 minute wait we had with her sitting on my knees was just her naively trying to build up my horniness, or make me want her more so I would accept whatever she would ask in the room, but it was just a silly tactic! Her insisting to massage me was a real red flag, and reading a lot on this forum has allowed me to spot these fishy behaviours.
Her reaction to all of this and her trying to intimidate me made her look like a spoiled brat but I kept my calm and told her she won't get a dime from me! She then hid in the changing room and me and the woman manager waited for 20 minutes outside for her to come out! We should be ready to go to war with these girls, this is a business, you have to understand that, I don't expect her to like me, I just want to get what I paid for!
.[/QUOTE]You did what needed to be done and I wish more mongers would act like you need.
I experienced the same behavior from another girl during my last visit 1 month ago. Can't remember her name but she was dressed with a intégral black fishnet top to bottom, Romanian, tanned skinned. She seems nice at the bar but once we were upstairs in a room she started to upsell everything. In short I would have to pay at least 200 euros for 30 min, impossible to negotiate. I replied that I would not pay that much money for a covered 30 min S&F and put my bathrobe back on me to leave. We had not started any action yet. She started to argue that I had to pay anyway and was blocking the door of the room that I was trying to open to get out and leave. I replied that we must go down to the reception to talk to a manager. I managed to get out of the room yelling that I would wait her at the reception. She slammed back the door like a fury and I went downstairs at the reception. She never came to discuss the case with a manager.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2851649]Anyone know the name of the lady who has really big natural boobs, a 9/10 face, very pronounced hourglass figure, thin and with tan skin? I only saw her twice momentarily in the club despite me being there all day on Sunday. Was probably in high demand and always in the room.[/QUOTE]Maybe Kloe? Usually not so busy, or Brenda?
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Bad Behavior
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2851674]You did what needed to be done and I wish more mongers would act like you need. I experienced the same behavior from another girl during my last visit 1 month ago. Can't remember her name but she was dressed with a integral black fishnet top to bottom, Romanian, tanned skinned. She seems nice at the bar but once we were upstairs in a room she started to upsell everything. In short I would have to pay at least 200 euros for 30 min, impossible to negotiate. I replied that I would not pay that much money for a covered 30 min S&F and put my bathrobe back on me to leave. We had not started any action yet. She started to argue that I had to pay anyway and was blocking the door of the room that I was trying to open to get out and leave. I replied that we must go down to the reception to talk to a manager. I managed to get out of the room yelling that I would wait her at the reception. She slammed back the door like a fury and I went downstairs at the reception. She never came to discuss the case with a manager.[/QUOTE]This is why I really nail it all down before going to the room. What we've agreed to do, and at what price. I don't leave any room for these kind of shenanigans once we get to the room, and if she pulls any, then it's going to be very, very clear who is in the wrong. This tute you wrote about didn't come down to the reception desk because she knew she was wrong. Luckily my methods seem to work as I have never experienced anything as bad as what you and some others have written about. If I did, then I would gladly leave versus cave and fork over my money like some chump. I understand the mentality of guys who don't want to "negotiate" before going to the room because they want it to feel more like picking up a girl at the bar and going for "spontaneous" sex. Yes, well proceed at your own risk. And good luck with that!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2851856]This is why I really nail it all down before going to the room. What we've agreed to do, and at what price. I don't leave any room for these kind of shenanigans once we get to the room, and if she pulls any, then it's going to be very, very clear who is in the wrong. This tute you wrote about didn't come down to the reception desk because she knew she was wrong. Luckily my methods seem to work as I have never experienced anything as bad as what you and some others have written about. If I did, then I would gladly leave versus cave and fork over my money like some chump. I understand the mentality of guys who don't want to "negotiate" before going to the room because they want it to feel more like picking up a girl at the bar and going for "spontaneous" sex. Yes, well proceed at your own risk. And good luck with that![/QUOTE]Yes, I so much prefer no grocery, but surprise and discovery, playing with my talent learned with women and enjoying so much to receive: now, your turn. At Sharks, few months ago on a bad day, , I went to one of the prettiest most elegant, no question, let s discover, after few seconds on bed, I felt she was too professionnal, not fresh GFE enough for me, she proposed me to provide more, but I felt wouldn 't not work for me when my day at Sharks was already not good, so I asked her to stop, no drama, she was very correct, probably from my behavior, she didn't ask me any money, very honest, just telling: I should have asked before room, she was right, but I don't like, killing magic. I left full heavy balls.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2851960]Yes, I so much prefer no grocery, but surprise and discovery, playing with my talent learned with women and enjoying so much to receive: now, your turn. At Sharks, few months ago on a bad day, , I went to one of the prettiest most elegant, no question, let s discover, after few seconds on bed, I felt she was too professionnal, not fresh GFE enough for me, she proposed me to provide more, but I felt wouldn 't not work for me when my day at Sharks was already not good, so I asked her to stop, no drama, she was very correct, probably from my behavior, she didn't ask me any money, very honest, just telling: I should have asked before room, she was right, but I don't like, killing magic. I left full heavy balls.[/QUOTE]You should have asked her what?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja]I felt she was too professionnal, not fresh GFE enough for me[/QUOTE]You go to a fuck factory like Sharks and expect GFE without professionalism? LOL!
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2852050]You should have asked her what?[/QUOTE]If she provides what I enjoy, but it was more a bad feeling from her reactions, even she was quiet, very correct and honest, it was my mistake to go with her when not a good day at Sharks. Other mistake at Freubad on 13 August when I exploded my heart on morning, climbing Gran San Bernardino 2473, going in tachycardia. I took HH 199/60 but no desire when seeing about 30 naked girls in garden. Manager didn't want to accept my deal, so I preferred to lose my 199 for 1 hour and left full balls. From my principle, I won't return to Freubad, when I was their best promoter here.
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Nasty Aftertaste
Been there on Sunday of the summer party weekend for the time interval 12.30-10pm. At arrival the parking lot and the premises were already full. In the evening hours they even ran out of fresh towels at the reception. Brunch buffet was apart for some fruit and cheese literally empty; it took around a hour to be refilled. People were getting pissed off and started complaining and shouting at the staff. However the biggest advertising gag for the summer party weekend was the ox on the spit (to which I was looking forward) to be served at 5pm; well, they heated up the left-over carcass from the preceding Saturday which fed maybe just a small bunch of people. All the others got empty-handed. Complaining at the reception brought no result. Ridiculous bad planning!
My last visit was end of March in this year which was a remarkable experience with an amazing line-up. Recalling great memories of the sessions with Carolin and Sky, both genuine (ie Thracic-Latin) Romanian babes. Since then, I've sporadically overflown this thread just to keep updated. Oddly enough, neither then, nor this time have I encountered any of the so often vehiculated babes' names by the forum reports.
Sabrina, Moldavian, dyed bright blonde, tall and slim, infinite legs up to the throat, middle-sized tities, cute round buttocks, no tattoos, a stunner for sure. She was lounging around in the area between stairs to the jacuzzi platform and bar. Walked up to her and stroke up a conversation in a mixture of German and English. Deal closed, we were ready to shift to the room. I just turned to the bar in order to take a glass of water. As I returned she disappeared. Later on, as I met her, she excused herself allegedly being busy with another guy. Everytime when we were in close proximity to each other she avoided any eye-contact. Who knows what unfolds in the head of a c*nt? I didn't want to let my mood be spoilt, so I moved on.
Ina, Romanian claiming to be Spanish from Barcelona. (Claiming to be Catalan would add some variety to the lies, won't it?) Dyed blond hair to the shoulders, medium stature, firm cute medium tities, long well-groomed nails, no tattoos, conspicuous pink make-up under dark eyebrows, sat fully naked on the edge of the bed between bar and restrooms. Exchanged pleasantries and standard information after which we took place in a quieter area. She's proficient in English and Spanish indeed. Was intended to session her as our talk took a weird turn: she confessed to be a SM mistress and would like to penetrate me with a dildo. WTF? Well, I told her that we can have some sort of rough play and instead of the dildo she could use her tongue, however, I'd also like her to sing into my mike and to pump her in a couple of positions. She countered that I wouldn't be allowed to touch her in any way and that she'd take the active part exclusively. Bid my farewell and moved on.
Waiting for drinks at the bar there was a mind-blowing beautiful young woman: dyed deep red with two pigtails girlie style. Natural beauty with a cool unapproachable air. Pinched on her finger at which she turned her head and smiled shortly. She might expect to be talked up. Some tattooed letter codes on her calves slightly put me off. Decided to postpone. I haven't seen her again on that day and am blaming myself for not having interviewed her at least. Could anybody give some details on her?
Sky, Romanian. Tall, slim, blonde, well-groomed, mesmerizing cute tities somewhere between small and medium, well-formed middle-sized buttocks, no tattoos, jaw-dropping stunner. I finally got a bit of goodluck. Talked her up in the buffet area at which she asked me whether I wouldn't recognize her again. I didn't, shame on me!. Then she told her name and I instantaneously recognized her again. We sessioned half a year ago. She had a different make-up and hair arrangement. We hugged and off we went to the room. Caressed her body biting her butt-cheecks, licking and sucking at her gorgeous tities. She was slightly reluctant letting me to caress her fanny, however, I managed to lick and suck it for a short while. Absolute bliss! She gave me an extensive consistent BJ with some tongue play in between and holding my balls in her gracious hand. At the same time I kissed her legs. Enjoyed the landscape in the mirrors. At some point she climbed and rode me pinching my nipples. I didn't need long to explode with delirious groans. We hugged and I licked and sucked at her insanely cute tities in order to cool and come down. 30/100.
Lingered in the area between bar and restrooms keeping some small talk with the babes. Then something remarkable and bizarre happened. Out of the blue a somewhat older but attractive fully naked Gypsy hooker b*tch approached me. In a polite but firm manner she asked me not to talk to the girls sitting around because potential punters would think they wouldn't be available. In other words, I would have prevented them getting customers and making money. I signaled understanding for her concerns and moved to the restaurant for some dinner. Well, what does that tell us? Many (maybe the majority) of the babes are closely monitored and supervised. That is obvious pimping. This is surely the case with the Gypoes but not only with them. Keeping a tight grip on how business is running proves an interest in receiving a part from the women's earnings. The Romanian number plates of some ostentative German-manufactured fancy cars in the club's parking lot are indicative. Gathered some intelligence and found out that they are from a south-western district of Romania which is infamous for the high criminal energy of its Gypsy clans. They wage downright wars among themselves.
Bottom line:
The general scheme of things at Sharks is a meanwhile somewhat degenerated brothel held in action by mainly heavily pimped Gypoe hooker bitches catering for Turks and other Middle Easterners. In between there are some locals and tourists in attendance as well. Among the providing women hidden gems can be found. I've observed a tendency with the women in the FKKing scene usually to select their punters along their preferences. Everybody tends to organize his working conditions as pleasant as possible. They cannot be blamed on that. That is, if you are unattractive to them, you can end up empty-handed. Or you have to be content with the decrepit Gypoe bunch. Or you have to spend big bucks in order to make them overcome their disgust towards you. I left the club with a nasty aftertaste.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2852157]You go to a fuck factory like Sharks and expect GFE without professionalism? LOL![/QUOTE]And I sometimes find, in December, May, really fresh GFE, when no fresh GFE natural elegant beauty at Globe now.
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I ask you all a serious question!
If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go ti sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?
Can you all please list me 5 good reasons?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852467]I ask you all a serious question!
If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go ti sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?
Can you all please list me 5 good reasons?[/QUOTE]Girls.
More girls.
More better looking girls.
More girls with better service.
Did I say more better looking girls?
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It Is weird. Everyone here Is all the time complaining about sharks and now I Will find out that everyone Will list a lot of positive things about It.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852467]If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go ti sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?[/QUOTE]The question is, what do you value the most?
Food, Spa, cheap girls, good looking girls, good ratio of men to women, outdoor area.
Also at what time are you in Frankfurt? Will there be a lot of business-men here?
Some things to consider:
- When the Frankfurt fair is on, Palace is overrun and expensive. Sharks is further away and bigger. So you might be better of, going there.
- Palace has no outdoor area.
- The Prices for girls at Sharks are higher than at most other clubs.
- Mainhatten usually doesn't have that much of a selection (at least that is my personal opinion).
- Sharks has a lot of very good looking girls, and more girls then the other clubs generally.
- Oase is very undervalued in my opinion. It is smaller than Sharks. But also closer and cheaper. Especially in summer a great choice because of the large outdoor area.
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Cannot
[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852467]If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go to sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go to Sharks nor Mainhattan. Sharks has never been my favorite. Would go to Palace or Oase instead.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852467]I ask you all a serious question!
If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go ti sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?
Can you all please list me 5 good reasons?[/QUOTE]Despite quantity which not mean quality for me and most girls who ask too expensive for their value, Sharks is only a second choice for me since this Summer, because of casting level.
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Choice
[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852467]I ask you all a serious question!
If you have a free evening in Frankfurt, why would you go ti sharks and not to Palace or Mainhattan?
Can you all please list me 5 good reasons?[/QUOTE]ı have been to all these clubs and many times to sharks.
The biggest one. Means you can spend your time in different areas.
The foods are better.
There are more girls. Meant it offers to you different choices.
The ambiance of the club is unbeatable. Comparison to all others.
The girls give you free touches, some kissing, gossip, contact before room. For sure if you do not want you do not go.
Mainhattan is too small indeed. And the palace is somewhere between sharks and mainhattan. You will find less choice in palace.
Only the good reason to visit palace its close the am main, that's all.
Give a chance to sharks. Good luck.
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And the boycott continue
Last time I been to a FKK was summer 2019. Let me know when thing get back to normal. I only take vacation once or twice a year, so it might not make any different.
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[QUOTE=Thrymiir;2852499]The question is, what do you value the most?
Food, Spa, cheap girls, good looking girls, good ratio of men to women, outdoor area.
Also at what time are you in Frankfurt? Will there be a lot of business-men here?
Some things to consider:
- When the Frankfurt fair is on, Palace is overrun and expensive. Sharks is further away and bigger. So you might be better of, going there.
- Palace has no outdoor area.
- The Prices for girls at Sharks are higher than at most other clubs.
- Mainhatten usually doesn't have that much of a selection (at least that is my personal opinion).
- Sharks has a lot of very good looking girls, and more girls then the other clubs generally.
- Oase is very undervalued in my opinion. It is smaller than Sharks. But also closer and cheaper. Especially in summer a great choice because of the large outdoor area.[/QUOTE]Sharks is good for the club and I found a great shower, but girls are not pretty enough for me since Summer for money they ask. I agree for Oase and Palace always deserve a look at right time. But I wish to find a new fresh GFE and natural elegant look.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2852517]Despite quantity which not mean quality for me and most girls who ask too expensive for their value, Sharks is only a second choice for me since this Summer, because of casting level.[/QUOTE]Ok, and so if Sharks Is a second choise for you, what Is the First choise for you in Frankfurt?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2852642]Ok, and so if Sharks Is a second choise for you, what Is the First choise for you in Frankfurt?[/QUOTE]My best value is not around Frankfurt, even I had 3 rare girls at Sharks since last October, but most Sharks girls ask too expensive, more expensive than German escorts, for their look and level for sex and not many are pretty for me at Sharks despite quantity. More quantity than quality, when 5 attractive among 25 elsewhere, for 70/30.
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Kity is back, whatever could be written. Best way to make fast big money, even when not kissing, like many at Sharks. Some guys are ready to pay expensive even no real kiss which is most deep intimate for girls, so, most valuable for me when I want attractive give me their intimacy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2853224]Kity is back, whatever could be written. Best way to make fast big money, even when not kissing, like many at Sharks. Some guys are ready to pay expensive even no real kiss which is most deep intimate for girls, so, most valuable for me when I want attractive give me their intimacy.[/QUOTE]Personally I think unnecessarily exchanging all that saliva is gross. I imagine it goes back to a time when mothers chewed up food for babies. My baby food came from a jar. I don't mean to be overly negative. I am just saying I think I am perfectly normal for not wanting it. I do want plenty of weird stuff though so I am not judging.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2853464]Personally I think unnecessarily exchanging all that saliva is gross. I imagine it goes back to a time when mothers chewed up food for babies. My baby food came from a jar. I don't mean to be overly negative. I am just saying I think I am perfectly normal for not wanting it. I do want plenty of weird stuff though so I am not judging.[/QUOTE]If I understand You well, french kissing is sensuality, not putting tongue in throat nor spitting in mouth nor like a snake, but who really know to french kiss, then girls say: You kiss good and keeping on.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2853464]..... I do want plenty of weird stuff though so I am not judging.[/QUOTE]I guess your weird stuff does not include DATY. If the gal is really hot I cannot resist.
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A girl who was already before covid, who tried Globe where she was one of the most elegant I saw on a January Saturday, plan to leave Sharks because of slow business, when garden with BBQ, so what will be in Winter? Warming ass when asking too expensive for what they really worth.
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Which club?
[QUOTE=TheGuyWith;2850198]
Spend more time looking, but no luck. Saw one good on from afar but picked up by another man. I tried to wait to see if she comes back when they are done. Waiting for a while and finally saw the girl I met at the counter. Decided to go with her. Standard pricing for 30 m, upcharge for kissing. She's young and beautiful but lack compassion. LFK instead of DFK. Session was just ok. I was so disappointed since there were a lot of girls but not a lot of good looking one, at least compared to other club I've been to.[/QUOTE]Can you tell us which "other club" has better looking girls than Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2853571]I guess your weird stuff does not include DATY. If the gal is really hot I cannot resist.[/QUOTE]Yes, when attractive, I love to taste mouth and pussy, I love when they make honey or say: don't touch my clit now too sensitive. More interesting than just emptying balls.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2853710]Can you tell us which "other club" has better looking girls than Sharks?[/QUOTE]Quantity at Sharks but not many pretty since July, casting is really not at best for too expensive girls. Can find prettier in Germany.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2853874]Quantity at Sharks but not many pretty since July, casting is really not at best for too expensive girls. Can find prettier in Germany.[/QUOTE]You didn't answer the question. Which Club has better looking girls? Instead of repeating again and again that casting is not good, tell us where to go instead.
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Sharks 15 Sept 23
Despite some time ago expressing my reluctance to visit in the future I found the pull to great as my only other option on Friday was Palace of Mainhatten so I was on a mid to late PM train to Darmstadt. I was pleased I went because much to my pleasure the quality of the LU was far better than my previous visit and, apart from the odd one or two, all of the tubs of lard had gone. There were plenty of girls to choose from of which went with a Romanian I can't remember the name of and also a Brazilian whose name also escapes me. The latter of the two was by far a better experience, the Romanian was like most I have seen. Average at best. I was obviously thinking with my little head when I agreed a room with her. The only downside to the visit was the food, it was absolutely terrible and no outside food as on a usual summer day despite the day being very warm / hot. I'll be back.
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Ranking
[QUOTE=Outcast;2854087]You didn't answer the question. Which Club has better looking girls? Instead of repeating again and again that casting is not good, tell us where to go instead.[/QUOTE]In my small sampling, as of 2023 Sept, the quality of line up is:
Oase Sharks Samya Palace Mainhattan (Oaseis best).
But someone like Siri has far more sampling data than me.
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Sharks Outdoor Area
[QUOTE=Abox79;2854122]it was absolutely terrible and no outside food as on a usual summer day despite the day being very warm / hot. I'll be back.[/QUOTE]As you said, the weather is still very warm / hot recently. Are there many girls going outdoor area? Thank you.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2854280]In my small sampling, as of 2023 Sept, the quality of line up is:
Oase Sharks Samya Palace Mainhattan (Oaseis best).
But someone like Siri has far more sampling data than me.[/QUOTE]Don't underrate yourself. Opinions will always be subjective, but an up to date evaluation is always welcome. So thanks.
My personal September evaluation: Sharks Oase World. Sharks and Oase are always worth a visit IMHO. September being a lot better than (July and) August (as always). World not really for newcomers (pickings are slim and the club quiet/boring). World regulars know the ropes (nothing new, but at least my Top 2 girls were around and kept me away from my virgin Village visit).
Not much going on in the gardens. I guess summer is coming to an end soon. Sharks being the best. Not rocking, but at times girls like to pose a little around the pool/outside restaurant (now closed), in particular when the evening shift arrives. At Oase the outside restaurant was open (good weather), so the girls did some "catwalking". Some, but not much posing around the pool this time. At World a couple of girls were sunbathing by the pool, but not my types. Also some posing on the "top of the stairs" outside (as always).
Going rates remain 100E/30 and 150E/60 for a solid GFE session with a hot girl. I was, without asking for it, offered COB/COT for free several times at all clubs, so just DON'T buy the crap that everything is extra at the Hessen clubs. Like 5- 10- 15 years ago "extra for everything" is apparantly a Bavaria/Munich thing that does not necessarily apply to Hessen. Unless you act as a clueless tourist.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2854280]But someone like Siri has far more sampling data than me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Shark16;2854349]Don't underrate yourself. Opinions will always be subjective, but an up to date evaluation is always welcome. So thanks.
just DON'T buy the crap that everything is extra at the Hessen clubs. Like 5- 10- 15 years ago "extra for everything" is apparantly a Bavaria/Munich thing that does not necessarily apply to Hessen. Unless you act as a clueless tourist.[/QUOTE]Exactly: [I]quality[/I] data always beats a large [I]quantity[/I].
[QUOTE=Abdpqe;2854311]As you said, the weather is still very warm / hot recently. Are there many girls going outdoor area? Thank you.[/QUOTE]No, but even during the hot summer months (July-August) you can count the girls chilling outside by the pool area on one hand, and they usually aren't the hottest ones. The [I]most[/I] you can expect is a few WGs doing a quick lap through the garden and then going inside again.
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Plenty
[QUOTE=Abdpqe;2854311]As you said, the weather is still very warm / hot recently. Are there many girls going outdoor area? Thank you.[/QUOTE]Plenty of girls were outside when I was there, either briefly or a few trying to entice guys back to a room.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2854375]Exactly: [I]quality[/I] data always beats a large [I]quantity[/I].
No, but even during the hot summer months (July-August) you can count the girls chilling outside by the pool area on one hand, and they usually aren't the hottest ones. The [I]most[/I] you can expect is a few WGs doing a quick lap through the garden and then going inside again.[/QUOTE]Wow, when I was there summer of 2019 there were huge number of girls playing polo in the pool.
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[QUOTE=Abox79;2854380]Plenty of girls were outside when I was there, either briefly or a few trying to entice guys back to a room.[/QUOTE]Yes, to go to BBQ, and few to take sun or hunt to get business.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2854280]In my small sampling, as of 2023 Sept, the quality of line up is:
Oase Sharks Samya Palace Mainhattan (Oaseis best).
But someone like Siri has far more sampling data than me.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, Sharks is really not at best for beauties looking like woman type who are the only attractive for me, since July. I hate vulgar prostitute images and only pay for images of women, with elegance and charm, very rare on this Summer, when Kity back is on asian level in bed. Less quantity, but Oase can compete for looks quality. But I had 2 Germans and a quite French who were real wow, since October at Sharks spending more than 20 hours with them, when I m not a fast 30 . We can t tell about same level for quality between fast 30 , or using technique with escorts to get over time til 85 mn for hour rate if You are good with the girl, then better to make her cum, then she won t dare to ask You too expensive, preferring You return to her, furthermore when she knows how long drive for You, giving her value.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2854600]Unfortunately, Sharks is really not at best for beauties looking like woman type who are the only attractive for me, since July. I hate vulgar prostitute images and only pay for images of women, with elegance and charm, very rare on this Summer, when Kity back is on asian level in bed. Less quantity, but Oase can compete for looks quality. But I had 2 Germans and a quite French who were real wow, since October at Sharks spending more than 20 hours with them, when I m not a fast 30 . We can t tell about same level for quality between fast 30 , or using technique with escorts to get over time til 85 mn for hour rate if You are good with the girl, then better to make her cum, then she won t dare to ask You too expensive, preferring You return to her, furthermore when she knows how long drive for You, giving her value.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much for Kity information. I will go to Sharks just to see her. She is the prettiest in Hassen in my personal scale.
This board automatically removes an arrow symbol, so my last post was messed up.
I meant that, my 2023 personal Lineup Order is:
1. OASE, 2. SHarks, 3. Samya, 4. Palace, 5. Mainhattan, (1 is best, 5 is worst).
The quality of Samya line up dropped significantly since last December. I used to like 4 girls and all are gone. Also I don't like the fake girl setup now. I will stop going there for a while.
WHat I like about OASE is that I don't meet a super-rude girl which I occasionally meet at Sharks and Samya. Not sure if the management is good about selection or I have been lucky.
I like the Palace atmosphere, but they really don't have any decent girl and foods are bad.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2854436]Wow, when I was there summer of 2019 there were huge number of girls playing polo in the pool.[/QUOTE]Yes, 4 (years ago. Welcome to 2023.
[QUOTE=Sirioja]I hate vulgar prostitute images and only pay for images of women, with elegance and charm, very rare on this. [/QUOTE]So you think there are no prostitutes in Globe, in Freibad, in Sharks, in Oase? They will all fuck ANY guy for money, LOL!
[QUOTE=Sirioja]You return to her, furthermore when she knows how long drive for You, giving her value.[/QUOTE]You are just another guy (number 50? Number 100? Of the month) who fucks her for money.
[QUOTE=Sirioja] But I had 2 Germans and a quite French who were real wow[/QUOTE]Names? What is "a quite French?
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[QUOTE=David1266;2854825]Thanks very much for Kity information. I will go to Sharks just to see her. She is the prettiest in Hassen in my personal scale.
This board automatically removes an arrow symbol, so my last post was messed up.
I meant that, my 2023 personal Lineup Order is:
1. OASE, 2. SHarks, 3. Samya, 4. Palace, 5. Mainhattan, (1 is best, 5 is worst).
The quality of Samya line up dropped significantly since last December. I used to like 4 girls and all are gone. Also I don't like the fake girl setup now. I will stop going there for a while.
WHat I like about OASE is that I don't meet a super-rude girl which I occasionally meet at Sharks and Samya. Not sure if the management is good about selection or I have been lucky.
I like the Palace atmosphere, but they really don't have any decent girl and foods are bad.[/QUOTE]Kity has higher vagina potential than average, but despite her immaculate beauty, she is not interesting in sex. She may prefer easier Asians. She is a pleasure for eyes, even her ass is not round enough for my taste. I had real beauties before Summer at Oase. Bad, one since 2019 has so painful for her orgasmus.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2854915]Yes, 4 (years ago. Welcome to 2023.
So you think there are no prostitutes in Globe, in Freibad, in Sharks, in Oase? They will all fuck ANY guy for money, LOL!
You are just another guy (number 50? Number 100? Of the month) who fucks her for money.
Names? What is "a quite French?[/QUOTE]Lora, even Romanian neighborhood, but no look like her at Globe, before she put Ariana Grande prostitute image pony tail, looking like a horse ass, when she was so fresh on December / January. If you knew Globe till 2018, you could understand why worst club for me now, full of vulgarity, killing my libido, when I felt so big desire when I saw my GG real Russian all in red, long time I didn't desire so much a WG, when all is matter of image for my desire, when I stopped with some weekly regulars who didn't have anymore good image in my eyes, when I enjoyed them on last time, but stopped from what I saw and never repeated, even with my best ever FKK girl I enjoyed so much.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja]Lora, even Romanian neighborhood, but no look like her at Globe, before she put Ariana Grande prostitute image pony tail, looking like a horse ass, when she was so fresh on December / January. If you knew Globe till 2018, you could understand why worst club for me now, full of vulgarity, killing my libido, when I felt so big desire when I saw my GG real Russian all in red, long time I didn't desire so much a WG, when all is matter of image for my desire, when I stopped with some weekly regulars who didn't have anymore good image in my eyes, when I enjoyed them on last time, but stopped from what I saw and never repeated, even with my best ever FKK girl I enjoyed so much.[/QUOTE]The usual word salad, talking about himself, about 2018 and about Globe. Newsflash: it's 2023 and the topic here is Sharks. And as usual, no accurate and current information given about better alternatives.
Why do you constantly attack other forum user's taste for liking a club or a certain type of woman, calling it"full of vulgarity?" Have you ever taken a close look at Sharks? The lineup is extremely similar to Globe, but girls in Globe offer MUCH better service.
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[QUOTE=Abdpqe;2854311]As you said, the weather is still very warm / hot recently. Are there many girls going outdoor area? Thank you.[/QUOTE]I was there on Sunday early afternoon and outside there were only guys. The girls (mostly the ones with crazy silicone, plastic faces, covered in tattoos) occasionally looked out the door but quickly gave up and went back in.
Generally the vibe seemed to be that no one was doing rooms. The lineup was possibly the worst I have ever seen at sharks (although I am by no means a regular, 3-4 visits / year), worse even than the one time I came to lingerie Tuesday pre Corona. No sign of well knowns like Brenda, Ruby, Monica, the number of guys far exceeded the number of girls. And even so, the girls all had nothing to do because the general quality was so low. Also the male clientele mostly older, probably regulars, who gave the impression they were just here for the sauna, sunbathe and chat with the other regulars rather than to fuck, meant the girls were also showing no enthusiasm of approaching.
I was half tempted to try Fabiana (Moldavian, lives in Italy, decent size boobs), but decided that I wasn't in the mood for a cheap knock off Brenda, and left around 3 pm with blue balls.
It will be a while before I make the long drive to Darmstadt again.
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[QUOTE=Yamamba;2855425]I was there on Sunday early afternoon and outside there were only guys. The girls (mostly the ones with crazy silicone, plastic faces, covered in tattoos) occasionally looked out the door but quickly gave up and went back in.[/QUOTE]Yes, this is also my experience and I have been in Sharks about 3-4 times this summer. I yet have to see girls playing polo in the swimming pool and I have been visiting Sharks since quite a few years.
Some girls just walk into the patio area and stand in the doorway, perhaps walk a few meters outside whilst squinting at the bright sunlight, and then quickly go back inside. Even fewer girls make a quick lap (wobbling on those stupid high heels on the uneven garden path) through the garden and then quickly go inside again. Last time I was there (only a few weeks ago) it was still nice enough weather to swim and sunbath, and there was one girl (overweight, not very fuckable) on a lounge chair at the side of the pool trying unsuccessfully to pick up guys, and after 20 minutes she gave up and went back inside again.
[QUOTE=Yamamba;2855425]Generally the vibe seemed to be that no one was doing rooms. The lineup was possibly the worst I have ever seen at sharks (although I am by no means a regular, 3-4 visits / year), worse even than the one time I came to lingerie Tuesday pre Corona. .[/QUOTE]True, although in all fairness I don't think the current lineup is as bad as it was during spring until autumn last year, when at times I was was desperately looking for [I]any remotely fuckable[/I] girl so I could at least would not have to leave with blue balls.
However, reality of the current situation is that 100430 is simply too expensive for most guys, [I]especially considering the very mediocre service that most WGs provide,[/I] so men are much more careful about spending money. Men are voting with their wallets and blue balls, while the ladies just keep on ignoring reality and sit around smoking cigarettes.
I have a few favorites (for example Ester, Renata, Sarah, Sami, Chloe, Franzi and a couple of others) who are nice and fun girls and with whom I have a good connection which is also important to me. These girls either provide decent GFE service, a good PSE optic fuck, or a good combination thereof, but I've also become very reluctant to try out new girls (for example, Bibi looks physically very attractive and I was tempted) because the risk of flushing 100 Euros down the toilet is simply too high and it blows a big hole into my monthly sex budget.
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So different
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2855420]The usual word salad, talking about himself, about 2018 and about Globe. Newsflash: it's 2023 and the topic here is Sharks. And as usual, no accurate and current information given about better alternatives.
Why do you constantly attack other forum user's taste for liking a club or a certain type of woman, calling it"full of vulgarity?" Have you ever taken a close look at Sharks? The lineup is extremely similar to Globe, but girls in Globe offer MUCH better service.[/QUOTE]When I don't need Globe rules to get from girls, but I look for freshness for look and behavior. I never repeated any Globe girl since August 2021 , I don't pay for looks like Ariana, when I had 5 great girls at Sharks since 2022,3 Germans, 1 Romanian for 150/80 , I repeated many times and I would have repeated Sofi. De if she was not for 200/60 , when far higher level than most Globe girls and for less expensive. Sharks is higher level than Globe for a guy like me who love women, when Globe staff make now girls not being woman.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2855533]I have a few favorites (for example Ester, Renata, Sarah, Sami, Chloe, Franzi and a couple of others) who are nice and fun girls and with whom I have a good connection which is also important to me. These girls either provide decent GFE service, a good PSE optic fuck, or a good combination thereof, but I've also become very reluctant to try out new girls (for example, Bibi looks physically very attractive and I was tempted) because the risk of flushing 100 Euros down the toilet is simply too high and it blows a big hole into my monthly sex budget.[/QUOTE]Multiple people mentioned Bibi as an attractive girl. Could you explain where she sits?
I went to Sharks a few times during summer but never found any very attractive girl and I am so curious about this Bibi.
(except Kity who seems to be back now).
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[QUOTE=Yamamba;2855425].....I was half tempted to try Fabiana (Moldavian, lives in Italy, decent size boobs), but decided that I wasn't in the mood for a cheap knock off Brenda, and left around 3 pm with blue balls......[/QUOTE]Guys like Sirioja and yourself are amazing to be able to leave a club full of naked women with blue balls. You have such self control. As long as there are hot girls who provide good service even though I banged them many times before I will have relations.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2855791]Guys like Sirioja and yourself are amazing to be able to leave a club full of naked women with blue balls. You have such self control. As long as there are hot girls who provide good service even though I banged them many times before I will have relations.[/QUOTE]I m a guy for excellence for everything and I hate to waste my money, reason why I don't pay anymore Globe entry 95 , when casting don't worth. On 13 August, after exploding my heart climbing too early Gran San Bernardino, I went to Freubad and paid 199/60 , but I was not in good mood and couldn't find any wow to make me feel desire, so I went to manager I know, but not anymore flexible but stupid telling me he had high level girls when so average casting for me in garden, so I preferred to leave, losing my 199 , rather than going with a not attractive. We don't have same standard for quality with Swiss brothels managers. Even some good girls there, but I won't return to Freubad because of management. I climbed again Gran San Bernardino on next day.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2855633]Multiple people mentioned Bibi as an attractive girl. Could you explain where she sits?[/QUOTE]She always sits at that little podium with the dance-stripper pole, on your right when you enter, between the bar and that TV screen.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2855791]Guys like Sirioja and yourself are amazing to be able to leave a club full of naked women with blue balls. You have such self control. As long as there are hot girls who provide good service even though I banged them many times before I will have relations.[/QUOTE]With the current lineup it's difficult to leave without having had sex at least once, many different type of women for many different tastes. On the downside and as you already mentioned: whether she provides a decent service and for how much money is of course a different matter, so always be ready for a quick and overpriced 100430 fuck-and-suck Laufhaus optic fuck.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2855633]Multiple people mentioned Bibi as an attractive girl. Could you explain where she sits?
I went to Sharks a few times during summer but never found any very attractive girl and I am so curious about this Bibi.
(except Kity who seems to be back now).[/QUOTE]Bibi has amazing tits and angel smile, brunette, not really slim, but very very average for sex, even lower than Kity back. Sitting around the pole, asking 100 per 30 and not able to kiss.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2855831]Bibi has amazing tits and angel smile, brunette, not really slim, but very very average for sex, even lower than Kity back. Sitting around the pole, asking 100 per 30 and not able to kiss.[/QUOTE]There are many "pole". Is it the left side of the bar (Under a big Oscar statue), back of the bar (TV screen), right side (under a big fish tank), or far right side (Black hair skinny Lora always sits there)? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2856202]There are many "pole". Is it the left side of the bar (Under a big Oscar statue), back of the bar (TV screen), right side (under a big fish tank), or far right side (Black hair skinny Lora always sits there)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I already told you, it's the pole [U]to the right of the bar[/U] when you enter, towards the TV screen and massage area.
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2855828]She always sits at that little podium with the dance-stripper pole, on your right when you enter, between the bar and that TV screen.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=David1266;2856202]There are many "pole". Is it the left side of the bar (Under a big Oscar statue), back of the bar (TV screen), right side (under a big fish tank), or far right side (Black hair skinny Lora always sits there)? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Only 1 pole where girls dance, not far from stairs to rooms. When she wait for business, Bibi sit around.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2856241]Only 1 pole where girls dance, not far from stairs to rooms. When she wait for business, Bibi sit around.[/QUOTE]OK thank you. I never noticed this dance pole. I'll check.
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First time back since Covid
First time back at Sharks since Covid started. So a long time. Yes, it's more expensive, but I thought the selection was great-really a little of everything as far as I was concerned. Lately, I just haven't had the time to come down from working in Frankfurt, but finally came down on a Saturday evening. I saw Laura, a sweet young Romanian girl who was not so mercenary and not a big clock watcher and in fact repeated with her. Really a sweet girl and excellent DT. Prettier (IMHO) was Ayeesha, half Egyption-half Romanian, who seemed like a lot of fun, but when we got in the room. All business and eager to finish me off. The prettiest girl in the place stayed sitting in a couch near the bar, slim girl light brunette with big eyes who totally rejected the 5 or 6 guys I saw come up to her. What's her story?
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[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2856464] The prettiest girl in the place stayed sitting in a couch near the bar, slim girl light brunette with big eyes who totally rejected the 5 or 6 guys I saw come up to her. What's her story?[/QUOTE]Sounds like Kitty, she does go in the room but I'm not sure what her selection criteria is, turns down lots of rooms as well.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2856519]Sounds like Kitty, she does go in the room but I'm not sure what her selection criteria is, turns down lots of rooms as well.[/QUOTE]So should One considera himself lucky if She accepts to go to the room? 😆.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2856522]So should One considera himself lucky if She accepts to go to the room?.[/QUOTE]If Kity, so average level in bed, Asian level, reason why she target them now, when not when she arrived, but Caucasians who are not in love, won't repeat.
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[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2856464]First time back at Sharks since Covid started. So a long time. Yes, it's more expensive, but I thought the selection was great-really a little of everything as far as I was concerned. Lately, I just haven't had the time to come down from working in Frankfurt, but finally came down on a Saturday evening. I saw Laura, a sweet young Romanian girl who was not so mercenary and not a big clock watcher and in fact repeated with her. Really a sweet girl and excellent DT. Prettier (IMHO) was Ayeesha, half Egyption-half Romanian, who seemed like a lot of fun, but when we got in the room. All business and eager to finish me off. The prettiest girl in the place stayed sitting in a couch near the bar, slim girl light brunette with big eyes who totally rejected the 5 or 6 guys I saw come up to her. What's her story?[/QUOTE]Small Aisha ask 50 for kissing, like more and more.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2856415]OK thank you. I never noticed this dance pole. I'll check.[/QUOTE]As say Hammer, pole with mirror on podium, opposite side of jacuzzis, not far from SM room.
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[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2856464]First time back at Sharks since Covid started. So a long time. Yes, it's more expensive, but I thought the selection was great-really a little of everything as far as I was concerned. Lately, I just haven't had the time to come down from working in Frankfurt, but finally came down on a Saturday evening. I saw Laura, a sweet young Romanian girl who was not so mercenary and not a big clock watcher and in fact repeated with her. Really a sweet girl and excellent DT. Prettier (IMHO) was Ayeesha, half Egyption-half Romanian, who seemed like a lot of fun, but when we got in the room. All business and eager to finish me off. The prettiest girl in the place stayed sitting in a couch near the bar, slim girl light brunette with big eyes who totally rejected the 5 or 6 guys I saw come up to her. What's her story?[/QUOTE]-There are 3 or 4 Laura / Lora. Is this the skinny one with small breast on the far right side (by the wall) of the bar? She is sweet and nice.
-Yes the last one sounds Kitty. Depending on the timing and customer, she may charge 150/30 and may reject 100. I haven't seen her for a long time, I have to go to Sharks to see her. Thanks for info. It sounds like she didn't gain weight (this often happens when a girl is out for a very long time).
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[QUOTE=David1266;2856656]-There are 3 or 4 Laura / Lora. Is this the skinny one with small breast on the far right side (by the wall) of the bar? She is sweet and nice.
-Yes the last one sounds Kitty. Depending on the timing and customer, she may charge 150/30 and may reject 100. I haven't seen her for a long time, I have to go to Sharks to see her. Thanks for info. It sounds like she didn't gain weight (this often happens when a girl is out for a very long time).[/QUOTE]Blond with average face with piercing, slim, under jacuzzis.
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Kitty always rejected cheaper guys unless you want to pay at least 200 e per hour for her service.
Friday was not good time to book her. It seemed a few special customers always come for her during weekends and these guys usually book her very long sessions (3+ hours).
On Monday or Tuesday, if she were on board, she would be very approachable. She even could accept 100/30 standard rate.
Kitty definitely rejected those customers who smear her.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2856564]If Kity.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2856519]Sounds like Kitty, she does go in the room but I'm not sure what her selection criteria is, turns down lots of rooms as well.[/QUOTE]Money talk. Kitty was very arrogant since September 2019. But after you spend 2000 e or more on her, she would become your kitty.
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Electra
I'll be coming out to Sharks soon. Any signs of Electra? Has she moved to another club?
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2856915]I'll be coming out to Sharks soon. Any signs of Electra? Has she moved to another club?[/QUOTE]She was told here, met at Palace, read thread. Call desk. Upselling girl for kissing, 150/30 or 250/60 .
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Anyone knows the name of this one girl, probably in her 30's, long blond hair, small titties, BIG ass, plain Jane looks?
We started a nice conversation, she had good english skills but I got dragged into something else and couldn't connect with her later on.
Just curious about her and wanting to know more before my next visit. She was sitting in what I call the milf corner, let side of the bar, near the canteen
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Ayeesha
[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2856464]First time back at Sharks since Covid started. So a long time. Yes, it's more expensive, but I thought the selection was great-really a little of everything as far as I was concerned. Lately, I just haven't had the time to come down from working in Frankfurt, but finally came down on a Saturday evening. I saw Laura, a sweet young Romanian girl who was not so mercenary and not a big clock watcher and in fact repeated with her. Really a sweet girl and excellent DT. Prettier (IMHO) was Ayeesha, half Egyption-half Romanian, who seemed like a lot of fun, but when we got in the room. All business and eager to finish me off. The prettiest girl in the place stayed sitting in a couch near the bar, slim girl light brunette with big eyes who totally rejected the 5 or 6 guys I saw come up to her. What's her story?[/QUOTE]I had the same experience. It was bad. She did not even want to collect her money at the money lockers. She insisted I bring it to her in the back small rooms where we were.
Avoid!
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[QUOTE=TrebleMachine;2856997]Anyone knows the name of this one girl, probably in her 30's, long blond hair, small titties, BIG ass, plain Jane looks?
We started a nice conversation, she had good english skills but I got dragged into something else and couldn't connect with her later on.
Just curious about her and wanting to know more before my next visit. She was sitting in what I call the milf corner, let side of the bar, near the canteen[/QUOTE]You chat with her and didn't ask her name? What I ask to politely introduce.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2856879]Money talk. Kitty was very arrogant since September 2019. But after you spend 2000 e or more on her, she would become your kitty.[/QUOTE]Not same experience, she was not arrogant on our discovery on 2022 , but despite her higher than average vagina potential, even with a bit bigger than asian size, but not interesting for sex, not woman behavior enough, for me. 100 spent on her was more than enough for me, never worthing 200/60 , when I don t want to pay this again for Sofi. De when I m fully sure she is far higher level for sex. I prefer just to look at her immaculate body, even I prefer more round ass, but one of the prettiest at Sharks, but no more desire for her when I know. I don t see any girl really worthing 200/60 for look and fresh spontaneous GFE.
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[QUOTE=DocInHeat;2856464]Prettier (IMHO) was Ayeesha, half Egyption-half Romanian, who seemed like a lot of fun, but when we got in the room. All business and eager to finish me off.[/QUOTE]When a WG tells a guy that she's "half Romanian, half something else" then this is a hidden IQ test and clear a sign that you should avoid her because she's obviously a liar and a scammer.
Why do people keep on falling for this "half Italian, half Egyptian, half-whatever" bullshit?
[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2857025]She did not even want to collect her money at the money lockers. She insisted I bring it to her in the back small rooms where we were.![/QUOTE]OMG, and you complied? LOL!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2857029]You chat with her and didn't ask her name? What I ask to politely introduce.[/QUOTE]She might have very well told me that but I'm terrible at memorizing names when introduced to new people.
I always make some kindof a mental note nickname with some striking characteristics so that I would at least remember something later on.
You'd be the FKK-aficionado-french-cyclist.
Silvana would be 80 yo-Janice-from-the-Muppet-show-plastic-surgery-disaster.
She was Plain-Jane-Thicc-Ass.
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[QUOTE=PlayToDef;2857247]She might have very well told me that but I'm terrible at memorizing names when introduced to new people.
I always make some kindof a mental note nickname with some striking characteristics so that I would at least remember something later on.
You'd be the FKK-aficionado-french-cyclist.
Silvana would be 80 yo-Janice-from-the-Muppet-show-plastic-surgery-disaster.
She was Plain-Jane-Thicc-Ass.[/QUOTE]Only 73 for Sylvana. I should keep on climbing legends till mid November and ski for my best Christmas. At my age, I try to remember girls name, when I look at them like women.
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Brunette sitting close to pole under jacuzzis, Aisha is cute and friendly in lounge, but like Elektra, or Celine ex Oase, upselling 50 for kissing, which kissing? More and more upselling and not sure they are really able?
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Laura
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2856787]Blond with average face with piercing, slim, under jacuzzis.[/QUOTE]Relatively new, claims to be 19, mole on the left side upper lip. Quite a beauty but already the posterchild what is wrong with Sharks now. Only does 100/30, so she said. Mercenary through and through. Why would anyone pay a 100 bucks for RLD service, which used to be 20 Euro. Last time I was even quoted 300/60 by a blond African girl. I have been going there regularly over the years but it has become more and more a place to eat and have a massage. I guess that says it all.
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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2857342]Relatively new, claims to be 19, mole on the left side upper lip. Quite a beauty but already the posterchild what is wrong with Sharks now. Only does 100/30, so she said. Mercenary through and through. Why would anyone pay a 100 bucks for RLD service, which used to be 20 Euro. Last time I was even quoted 300/60 by a blond African girl. I have been going there regularly over the years but it has become more and more a place to eat and have a massage. I guess that says it all.[/QUOTE]Do you know not only Sharks where you can find good girls. Since end of June, even I was happy to enjoy again my best Sharks 2021 girl for 150/80 , but not my first choice for best value for quality.
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[QUOTE=FernandoAlonso;2857342]Relatively new, claims to be 19, mole on the left side upper lip. Quite a beauty but already the posterchild what is wrong with Sharks now. Only does 100/30, so she said. Mercenary through and through. Why would anyone pay a 100 bucks for RLD service, which used to be 20 Euro. Last time I was even quoted 300/60 by a blond African girl. I have been going there regularly over the years but it has become more and more a place to eat and have a massage. I guess that says it all.[/QUOTE]I find very average face blondie.
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Girl
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2857296]Brunette sitting close to pole under jacuzzis, Aisha is cute and friendly in lounge, but like Elektra, or Celine ex Oase, upselling 50 for kissing, which kissing? More and more upselling and not sure they are really able?[/QUOTE]Aisha: is she from moroccon? A brunette style girl. Some times she wears fishnet stockink. Sometimes walk in the club with another girl. ?
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First time visit
Like I said I stayed in Frankfurt city center and had to make the trip there. I ended up taking the train (RB82) that goes every hour to Darmstadt Nord. Don't confuse it with Darmstadt HBF bc both have different lengths in journey to sharks. In the case of Nord I only had about a 15 min walk. I recommend this one for the journey TO Sharks. Once I got to sharks I paid the 65 to get in and went to the locker room / shower area to change. I had a backpack with general supplies. Honestly could've snuck in some LQ and other stuff had I intended to. They hand you slippers towel and robe. Some people went in with both or either. To cut it short I had 2 sessions both for HH. One came to. 1 with a Romanian for BBBJ and FS and the other with a half Turkish / Moldovan for. 15 BBBJ FS. Was very tempted to repeat with the first Romanian due to price and solid experience but had to try other meat. Food provided was great and only paid 21 for a double of vodka and red bull. You pay as you check out with the key / scanner they hand you upon entry. Don't lose FYI or you have to pay 250. Got an Uber to Darmstadt HBF and took the late 1 am S4 to Frankfurt city center. It's very difficult to get a ride from Darmstadt nord to Frankfurt bc it requires transfers and aren't as many trains provided. Darmstadt city center was very empty for a Tuesday so just be wary but honestly felt no danger.
All in all I have to say FKKs are amazing for the service, establishment and the quality of girls. Would I go back? I don't know. Tijuana Colombia and Barca are still top for me. But def glad I went and checked it off my list. It's def worth it for an all day binge given the cost of cover and food provided.
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[QUOTE=Gilliat;2857613]Aisha: is she from moroccon? A brunette style girl. Some times she wears fishnet stockink. Sometimes walk in the club with another girl. ?[/QUOTE]From Morocco around Bucarest or Pitesti.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja]Do you know not only Sharks where you can find good girls. Since end of June, even I was happy to enjoy again my best Sharks 2021 girl for 150/80 , but not my first choice for best value for quality.
[/QUOTE]Well if you never mention any names, then it's difficult for people to know who this girl or "my first choice for best value for quality" is.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2857773]Well if you never mention any names, then it's difficult for people to know who this girl or "my first choice for best value for quality" is.[/QUOTE]I often wrote where is my best value on 2023 in whole FKK land when I look for elegance and girls looking and behaving like normal women. I may be really different when I have so different experience than written here, there.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2857348]Do you know not only Sharks where you can find good girls. Since end of June, even I was happy to enjoy again my best Sharks 2021 girl for 150/80 , but not my first choice for best value for quality.[/QUOTE]Any other recommednations where you can find good girls? GLobe?
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[QUOTE=RoyPunter;2858352]Any other recommednations where you can find good girls? GLobe?[/QUOTE]Depending on your tastes. Globe only for public sex, not anymore for beauties. Less upselling than at Sharks and some freshness at Oase. For me, for elegance and woman looks, GG where I will return after my climbings week end. Some GFE at Freubad, but stupid manager. Can still find very good girls in FKK land.
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Which Is the nationality of the girl called AMERIKA?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858415]Which Is the nationality of the girl called AMERIKA?[/QUOTE]Maybe from Venezuela? But I didn't see her ID. Some black girls at Sharks. Some Germans.
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I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
- Brenda.
- Chloe.
- Liz.
I'm going to stay with all of them and want to spend all my savings.
I don't know Who they are, so how can I recognize them?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858661]I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
- Brenda.
- Chloe.
- Liz.
I'm going to stay with all of them and want to spend all my savings.
I don't know Who they are, so how can I recognize them?[/QUOTE]You don't know them but you want to go with them, why? When except maybe Kloe, others are not told to be on highest level for bed at Sharks. Limited vagina even nearly 1,80 for Katalea. Brenda is also not told for sporty with a real size.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858661]I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
[/QUOTE]Catalea sits at the bar on the opposite side than where the entrance to Sharks is. She is very tall, one of the tallest girls in the club and has dark hair and a couple of small tattoos. If you see her stood up you should be able to know who she is easily by her height.
I wouldn't decide who I was going with so far in advance if you don't know them though, everyone has different tastes. Catalea has just come back from holiday, I don't think she works Mondays or Tuesdays.
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I normally try to avoid parties but found myself in Germany at the weekend so despite of the party visited Sharks.
The party really was nothing really, just a bit of extra food but I was pleased to see a couple of improvements made to the club. 2 water dispensers have been installed at the entrance to the restaurant and near the sauna. The slow bar has always been a problem in Sharks, if you just want water it's much quicker now and if you don't hopefully the queues will be slightly shorter at the bar.
The other improvement was the crackdown on lingerie, I heard people had been complaining about the girls wearing too much lingerie and the manager was very angry about it, last night I saw one of the supervisors walking around telling girls wearing anything covering their breasts or pussy to remove it.
As someone who much prefers seeing the girls walking around naked I was very pleased, I don't really understand girls who cover themselves up, if I see one of them my assumption is they have something to hide and will avoid them.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2858712] The other improvement was the crackdown on lingerie, I heard people had been complaining about the girls wearing too much lingerie and the manager was very angry about it, last night I saw one of the supervisors walking around telling girls wearing anything covering their breasts or pussy to remove it.
As someone who much prefers seeing the girls walking around naked I was very pleased, I don't really understand girls who cover themselves up, if I see one of them my assumption is they have something to hide and will avoid them.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the Info! I feel exactly the same way, and I avoid clubs where the girls cover themselves. I want to see the merchandise before I buy.
Very happy to know that the manager is being strict with the girls!
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2858712]....I don't really understand girls who cover themselves up....[/QUOTE]You'd be surprised to know just how self conscious some of these girls are.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858661]I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
- Brenda.
- Chloe.
- Liz.
I'm going to stay with all of them and want to spend all my savings.
I don't know Who they are, so how can I recognize them?[/QUOTE]No Katalea nor Brenda nor Liz on this party Sunday, only Kloe and Sylvana back. So average casting, when not a Tuesday but party with prosecco. I was happy to see Ukrainian tornado is fine when I really worried seeing her laying in lounge close to restaurant. My fourth place of week end, 0 sex and didn t feel any desire at Sharks, didn t see any elegance or woman type for me. Many girls not full naked. Bibi may be Samira now, when a bit of arabic style, super sexy but not full busy.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2858712]
couple of improvements made to the club. 2 water dispensers have been installed at the entrance to the restaurant and near the sauna. The slow bar has always been a problem in Sharks, if you just want water it's much quicker now and if you don't hopefully the queues will be slightly shorter at the bar.
[/QUOTE]So good to hear that. It was one of my pet peeves having to wait for so long just to get a half cup of water. I would just instead get a yoghurt to keep hydrated which is more expensive to the club and has more sugar. The way the glasses are washed in the sink also seems very half hearted and gross.
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Sunday in Sharks
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2858712]
The party really was nothing really, just a bit of extra food but I was pleased to see a couple of improvements made to the club. 2 water dispensers have been installed at the entrance to the restaurant and near the sauna.
The other improvement was the crackdown on lingerie ...
[/QUOTE]I attended the 2nd day of the Sharks party, after having been to the party in Oase the day before. The food in Sharks was better. It matched Oase in having special cold dishes, and there was a whole huge cow being roasted on a pit outside! Very generous succulent slices of roast beef were provided, sliced in front of your eyes.
The water in the dispensers run out at night and you have to queue at the bar again.
Alas, any crackdown on lingerie was short-lived. On Sunday, the level of covering was no different from before. Maxima's boobs were for example totally covered. I saw Sirioja's eyes tracking her, but he did not seem to be intetested in bedding his fellow Frenchie.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2858887]
Alas, any crackdown on lingerie was short-lived. On Sunday, the level of covering was no different from before. Maxima's boobs were for example totally covered. [/QUOTE]Unfortunately I know that from other clubs. Some girls won't stick to the rule, and if they get away with it, they become more and more. Until the rule dies away.
What I try to do is to punish the girls who cover themselves. Simple: if I don't see some titties, the wh*re is automatically disqualified. I won't budge on that. If all girls are eventually covered, then it's the club who gets disqualified.
I know all too well how some girls looks underneath the lingerie. I made a couple of mistakes in my 12 years experience, and I won't repeat them. Especially not by the current prices.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858661]I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
- Brenda.
- Chloe.
- Liz.
I'm going to stay with all of them and want to spend all my savings.
I don't know Who they are, so how can I recognize them?[/QUOTE]I was there last Wednesday. Brenda wasn't around but normally she sits / stands around the bar either right in front as enter the main room or towards the back near the stairs that leads up to the jacuzzi area.
Chloe and Liv were both there last week. They sit at the bar on the right as you enter the main room. Near the area where the seats are next to the mini dance floor and stairs leading to the rooms. They normally sit with the Emma and Melissa crowd.
Both are gorgeous looking but their rates are mninimun 100/30 for standard suck and fuck and 150/30 for GFE.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2858941]I was there last Wednesday. Brenda wasn't around but normally she sits / stands around the bar either right in front as enter the main room or towards the back near the stairs that leads up to the jacuzzi area.
Chloe and Liv were both there last week. They sit at the bar on the right as you enter the main room. Near the area where the seats are next to the mini dance floor and stairs leading to the rooms. They normally sit with the Emma and Melissa crowd.
Both are gorgeous looking but their rates are mninimun 100/30 for standard suck and fuck and 150/30 for GFE.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Thank you.
About Liz and Chloe: do they approach? Or shall I be brave and go myself to them?
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Lu question
Thinking of going this weekend. What's the lineup like at the moment?
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[QUOTE=Howie;2858941]I was there last Wednesday. Brenda wasn't around but normally she sits / stands around the bar either right in front as enter the main room or towards the back near the stairs that leads up to the jacuzzi area.
Chloe and Liv were both there last week. They sit at the bar on the right as you enter the main room. Near the area where the seats are next to the mini dance floor and stairs leading to the rooms. They normally sit with the Emma and Melissa crowd.
Both are gorgeous looking but their rates are mninimun 100/30 for standard suck and fuck and 150/30 for GFE.
Howie.[/QUOTE]150/30 GFE? No one pays that.
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[QUOTE=TravelBless;2858972]Thinking of going this weekend. What's the lineup like at the moment?[/QUOTE]Really not wow. Sharks management make good job, but not helped by their girls.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2859056]150/30 GFE? No one pays that.[/QUOTE]They work a lot, so It means that a lot of people pay that.
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2858913]Unfortunately I know that from other clubs. Some girls won't stick to the rule, and if they get away with it, they become more and more. Until the rule dies away.
What I try to do is to punish the girls who cover themselves. Simple: if I don't see some titties, the wh*re is automatically disqualified. I won't budge on that. If all girls are eventually covered, then it's the club who gets disqualified.
I know all too well how some girls looks underneath the lingerie. I made a couple of mistakes in my 12 years experience, and I won't repeat them. Especially not by the current prices.[/QUOTE]Most girls are more elegant in lingerie or dress on normal heels rather than for prostitutes looking 20 cm taller platform heels. I love to discover the surprise, erotic game and women in red excite me like my GG Russian, not for astrology, but I must be a bit bull.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2858941]I was there last Wednesday. Brenda wasn't around but normally she sits / stands around the bar either right in front as enter the main room or towards the back near the stairs that leads up to the jacuzzi area.
Chloe and Liv were both there last week. They sit at the bar on the right as you enter the main room. Near the area where the seats are next to the mini dance floor and stairs leading to the rooms. They normally sit with the Emma and Melissa crowd.
Both are gorgeous looking but their rates are mninimun 100/30 for standard suck and fuck and 150/30 for GFE.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Blond rasta Liz for GFE? Are you serious? Amazing how some pay very expensive for very average girls. Disappointing for looks on this party Sunday.
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2858913].....What I try to do is to punish the girls who cover themselves. Simple: if I don't see some titties, the wh*re is automatically disqualified. I won't budge on that. If all girls are eventually covered, then it's the club who gets disqualified......[/QUOTE]That would work if lots of other guys follow suit.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858965]Thank you.
About Liz and Chloe: do they approach? Or shall I be brave and go myself to them?[/QUOTE]I rarely saw them approach any guys. They prefer to sit and chat with their girly colleagues and wait for the guys to approach them. They are a sight of beauty.
So go ahead and flash them your dough and let us know how it goes. Definitely worth fucking for the optics.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859074]They work a lot, so It means that a lot of people pay that.[/QUOTE]Sure they do. It's all about how often you want to be in the club: people who are occasionally there have less of a problem paying more money for a pretty girl.
If you want to be there every week (and maybe visit different clubs) it's another story: 150430 will probably f*ck up your budget.
If am there and I find a pretty young one I want to drill, well, I will pay 150430. I did it in Globe often enough.
It also keeps me from being there all the time and getting addicted to the place, so for me it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Soon all the pretty ones will ask for more money. It's only a question of time. For me it's important that the pretty girls still have a motivation to come to these clubs. Of course I won't pay 150430 for a used up 30-35 yo woman who's being wh*ring for the last 15 years. Which is all that will remain in the FKKs if the prices stay cheap. I have seen it in my regular club (Sakura): the prices are around 100430, even 50430 if you know the girl, and the young pretty ones are non existent, or leave after one weekend. No thank you. Not my regular club anymore.
Then everyone can decide for himself: if you prefer to walk away from the pretty expensive ones, I won't complain. More chances left for me.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2859056]150/30 GFE? No one pays that.[/QUOTE]Some won't and some will.
That's their pricing menu and they're hot enough to seduce and attract the guys. Not for me to say if it is a winning formula for them. Some guys will just consider the 100/30 standard if 150/30 GFE is too much.
Brenda on the other hand quotes 100/30 nowadays but that is all inclusive of GFE.
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2859202]Some won't and some will.
That's their pricing menu and they're hot enough to seduce and attract the guys. Not for me to say if it is a winning formula for them. Some guys will just consider the 100/30 standard if 150/30 GFE is too much.
Brenda on the other hand quotes 100/30 nowadays but that is all inclusive of GFE.
Howie.[/QUOTE]Where can I find Brenda?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859216]Where can I find Brenda?[/QUOTE]Within the club👍.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858965]Thank you.
About Liz and Chloe: do they approach? Or shall I be brave and go myself to them?[/QUOTE]They want people to approach them or they would not be there. It takes no bravery at all. I would never settle for only the ones that approach me.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2859256]They want people to approach them or they would not be there. It takes no bravery at all. I would never settle for only the ones that approach me.[/QUOTE]Right. Me neither. I would have missed out on many great rooms if I had done that. And usually the pretty ones don't approach men. They don't need to. Now, it's not a rule, but it's usually like that.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859216]Where can I find Brenda?[/QUOTE]Not seen on Sunday. At the bar when she works.
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Kloe and Liz are usually not so busy.
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2859200]Sure they do. It's all about how often you want to be in the club: people who are occasionally there have less of a problem paying more money for a pretty girl.
If you want to be there every week (and maybe visit different clubs) it's another story: 150430 will probably f*ck up your budget.
If am there and I find a pretty young one I want to drill, well, I will pay 150430. I did it in Globe often enough.
It also keeps me from being there all the time and getting addicted to the place, so for me it's not necessarily a bad thing.
Soon all the pretty ones will ask for more money. It's only a question of time. For me it's important that the pretty girls still have a motivation to come to these clubs. Of course I won't pay 150430 for a used up 30-35 yo woman who's being wh*ring for the last 15 years. Which is all that will remain in the FKKs if the prices stay cheap. I have seen it in my regular club (Sakura): the prices are around 100430, even 50430 if you know the girl, and the young pretty ones are non existent, or leave after one weekend. No thank you. Not my regular club anymore.
Then everyone can decide for himself: if you prefer to walk away from the pretty expensive ones, I won't complain. More chances left for me.[/QUOTE]Problem is that drilling won't go on for 30 minutes.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2859227]Within the club👍.[/QUOTE]Can you please descrive her? No idea how She Is. Or Maybe you are jealous and don't want me to go with her.
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[QUOTE=Outcast;2859276]Right. Me neither. I would have missed out on many great rooms if I had done that. And usually the pretty ones don't approach men. They don't need to. Now, it's not a rule, but it's usually like that.[/QUOTE]How come that now this Is a rule? I see Silvana all the time breaking the balls approaching.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2859256]They want people to approach them or they would not be there. It takes no bravery at all. I would never settle for only the ones that approach me.[/QUOTE]This is 100% correct. At the same time, mongers should not be summarily rejecting girls who approach them first either. I can't tell you how many good sessions I myself would have missed out on if I used such a myopic approach. No, whether you approach the girl or the girl approaches you, size each encounter up as its own unique situation. Because, I can assure you that if you're out there turning down girls just because they approached you first, without any other basis for your declination, then you my friend are missing out on some good puss and ass! I know, because I fucked it LMAO!
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859343]How come that now this Is a rule? I see Silvana all the time breaking the balls approaching.[/QUOTE]I was talking explicitly about pretty young girls. Read my post again carefully please. Silvana is not pretty and certainly not young. That ship has sailed 50 years ago.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859341]Can you please descrive her? No idea how She Is. Or Maybe you are jealous and don't want me to go with her.[/QUOTE]Brenda has black hair and 2 legs. At Sharks since at least 2016 .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2859895]Brenda has black hair and 2 legs. At Sharks since at least 2016 .[/QUOTE]Oh really? I thought She had three legs.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859999]Oh really? I thought She had three legs.[/QUOTE]II have 3 .
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Anyone knows if Valentina and Zeyneb are back in Sharks?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859999]Oh really? I thought She had three legs.[/QUOTE]She's pre-op?
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2851348]I get approached by this french girl, Emily? She claims to be french from Paris and is 20 y/o, we sit in that room next to the massage rooms waiting, we chat a little bit but she seems cold and not very responsive,
... after like 20 minutes we get into the room, it all starts when she insists on giving me a massage which I refuse, then I say I only want half an hour and I agree for 100 but she seems very pissed, then she says its 50 extra for uncovered BJ, then I get the ick, I still refuse her offer and I tell her, never mind the BJ, lets just fuck, then she says okay but don't touch my nipple because of piercing LOL, I look at her, get out of the bed, take off the condom, throw it on the floor and I say we're done, she seems shocked and as soon as she realizes I'm 100% serious, she starts yelling and hitting me with the towel on the bed, and yelling 'ARE YOU GAY? YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN WITH A Woman? You will pay me 100 E' and I'm like I'm not paying you shit, we didn't do anything. She threatens to call security and storms out of the room, I go to the reception and tell the manager, everything that happened and she says she will handle it, I go on my way after that and don't see her again at all.[/QUOTE]Wait! You didn't seem to finish your story. What happened next? She didn't come out for the rest of the day? She had to come out eventually. Right? You didn't suggest the reception lady to go into the dressing room to walk her out to discuss the matter together? Did you eventually spot her the next day, few days, or weeks later and see her avoiding you? I have a feeling that she's still around using the same tactics on the newbies and local bootlickers.
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2851674]
I experienced the same behavior from another girl during my last visit 1 month ago. Can't remember her name but she was dressed with a intgral black fishnet top to bottom, Romanian, tanned skinned. She seems nice at the bar but once we were upstairs in a room she started to upsell everything. In short I would have to pay at least 200 euros for 30 min, impossible to negotiate. I replied that I would not pay that much money for a covered 30 min S&F and put my bathrobe back on me to leave. We had not started any action yet. She started to argue that I had to pay anyway and was blocking the door of the room that I was trying to open to get out and leave. I replied that we must go down to the reception to talk to a manager. I managed to get out of the room yelling that I would wait her at the reception. She slammed back the door like a fury and I went downstairs at the reception. She never came to discuss the case with a manager.[/QUOTE]This is one of those situations that you would want to remember her name. You didn't at least try to find out her name so you can report her on here? I wish you would at least describe who this chic is in terms of her physical attributes so other mongers can avoid her. I bet this woman is still working at the club. She's probably screwing other mongers right now.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2860112]Anyone knows if Valentina and Zeyneb are back in Sharks?[/QUOTE]Valentina 2023 who worked in Austria before, disappeared since a while. She turned around not busy at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=MoneySign;2860308]Wait! You didn't seem to finish your story. What happened next? She didn't come out for the rest of the day? She had to come out eventually. Right? You didn't suggest the reception lady to go into the dressing room to walk her out to discuss the matter together? Did you eventually spot her the next day, few days, or weeks later and see her avoiding you? I have a feeling that she's still around using the same tactics on the newbies and local bootlickers.
This is one of those situations that you would want to remember her name. You didn't at least try to find out her name so you can report her on here? I wish you would at least describe who this chic is in terms of her physical attributes so other mongers can avoid her. I bet this woman is still working at the club. She's probably screwing other mongers right now.[/QUOTE]Emily is still at Sharks, lovely when chating when she knows I m more French than her. I confirm virgin look Kity is back, visiting Asia at Sharks, when she could get a real size fucking her, when some taller are not same potential or stamina.
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About Branda
[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2859999]Oh really? I thought She had three legs.[/QUOTE]I was in Sharks yesterday but I didn't see her.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2860640]I was in Sharks yesterday but I didn't see her.[/QUOTE]Brenda works 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off. She's at the club for two weeks then goes home for two weeks, then returns for another two weeks.
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Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2861426]Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?[/QUOTE]Double decker airliner yellow bus. 12 euros airport to the HBF.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2861426]Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?[/QUOTE]Uber or Train to Darmstadt main station. I don't know why people bother to go out of their way to save a few Euros by getting to Darmstadt north and then walking, or rather I do, it's to save a few Euros and then spend 65 getting into Sharks and then 100+ on a girl.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2861426]Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?[/QUOTE]There is between airport and Darmstadt.
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AirLiner Bus
[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2861426]Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?[/QUOTE]Can take the AirLiner bus from FRA to Darmstatd, and from there you can either take BusR or taxi.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2861426]Public transport to Sharks?
How to get from FRA airport to Darmstadt Nord?
Is there a better alternative?[/QUOTE]The Airliner bus is very convenient. Runs every 30 minutes and has wifi.
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[QUOTE=Austin28;2861538]Can take the AirLiner bus from FRA to Darmstatd, and from there you can either take BusR or taxi.[/QUOTE]The bus is included if you take the Airliner. If you stay at InterCity hotel right next to the station, you can get a ticket for public transport for the duration of your stay.
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[QUOTE=Mojoman74;2861672]The bus is included if you take the Airliner. If you stay at InterCity hotel right next to the station, you can get a ticket for public transport for the duration of your stay.[/QUOTE]This looks like a good time to ask a question I have needed to ask. If you take the train to Darmstadt, is the bus included afterwards? I never could figure out how to buy the bus ticket and rode it anyway after riding the train.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2861730]This looks like a good time to ask a question I have needed to ask. If you take the train to Darmstadt, is the bus included afterwards? I never could figure out how to buy the bus ticket and rode it anyway after riding the train.[/QUOTE]If you take RB or S- Bahn then BusR is included. If you take ICE / EC then it's not.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858965]Thank you.
About Liz and Chloe: do they approach? Or shall I be brave and go myself to them?[/QUOTE]I only see Chloe approach guys is when she walks around in the club with a friend. And my observations is she / they only approach German / Turks guys with bling bling, because they know the guys have money (probably from non legal activities). When Chloe is alone I never see her approach guys.
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[QUOTE=Nikolaj;2861828]I only see Chloe approach guys is when she walks around in the club with a friend. And my observations is she / they only approach German / Turks guys with bling bling, because they know the guys have money (probably from non legal activities). When Chloe is alone I never see her approach guys.[/QUOTE]Do they (Chloe, Liz and Catalea) to lick their feet and to intensively suck their toes?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2858661]I Will be in sharks in the next few days and I would like to know, where can I find exactly:
- Catalea.
- Brenda.
- Chloe.
- Liz.
I'm going to stay with all of them and want to spend all my savings.
[/QUOTE]Hey MarkFKK,
Are you really serious about going to Sharks? Any imminent updates to provide based on your query from two weeks ago?
Howie.
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[QUOTE=Howie;2861937]Hey MarkFKK,
Are you really serious about going to Sharks? Any imminent updates to provide based on your query from two weeks ago?
Howie.[/QUOTE]I went to Palace instead, because the logistic was easier and I found a very bad line up and regretted for being there.
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2861914]Do they (Chloe, Liz and Catalea) to lick their feet and to intensively suck their toes?[/QUOTE]I have not been with Chloe, Liz and Catalea but from my experience the girls love to have their feet licked and sucked, they may complain a little that it tickles and it is not an extra.
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[QUOTE=Austin28;2861763]If you take RB or S- Bahn then BusR is included. If you take ICE / EC then it's not.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2862163]my experience the girls love to have their feet licked and sucked[/QUOTE]My conversations with the girls have been the total opposite, none of them say they like it and they think the men that do it are weird.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2862275]My conversations with the girls have been the total opposite, none of them say they like it and they think the men that do it are weird.[/QUOTE]I quite agree for licking and sucking feet, same for sucking tongue some guys ask, when this is not french kissing. But some girls are really sensitive when licking ass.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2862275]My conversations with the girls have been the total opposite, none of them say they like it and they think the men that do it are weird.[/QUOTE]Perhaps they do not like you to do it personally. I never discuss it with them before hand. In the room I just do it, they look quizzically at me, some giggle but eventually they like it. Obviously, there will be one or two who do not like it but they are in the minority. With regards to DATY and ass licking, most girls like it but I understand that now they are making it an extra.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2862360]Perhaps they do not like you to do it personally. I never discuss it with them before hand. In the room I just do it, they look quizzically at me, some giggle but eventually they like it. Obviously, there will be one or two who do not like it but they are in the minority. With regards to DATY and ass licking, most girls like it but I understand that now they are making it an extra.[/QUOTE]And do you like doing it if you feel that they smell bad?
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[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2862413]And do you like doing it if you feel that they smell bad?[/QUOTE]Men have a variety of sexual likes. For example, some are into coprophilia (look it up) or 'watersports'. Some men are into foot worship and are especially turned on by sweaty or smelly feet. I say to each his own. It is good that there is variety so that all girls get attended to.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2862639]Men have a variety of sexual likes. For example, some are into coprophilia (look it up) or 'watersports'. Some men are into foot worship and are especially turned on by sweaty or smelly feet. I say to each his own. It is good that there is variety so that all girls get attended to.[/QUOTE]I love feet ONLY if a girl Is VERY VERY beautiful. And I eventually love them if they are cleaned. If they are dirty and smell bad, It really sucks.
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Lola lola
I can't believe Lola this 20 yo short chick is becoming so popular. Last Friday and Saturday, from 4 pm until 11 pm she was nonstoply booked by customers who usually gave her long sessions.
Lola missed my appointment twice during that time. She simply explained that she was busy and she would be free after min-night.
Catelea, Chloe, Bibi, Jana all were present during weekend. But it seemed they were more available than Lola.
I don't think Cami is pretty. If I score Lola 8 then Cami is just 4-5. However Cami is popular too. Her coach mate Celine (or Celina) seemed to be hard to get business.
Catelea wore a shiny fishnet vest made her very cute. I have to admit that Catelea was the most attractive girl in club.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2862679]I can't believe Lola this 20 yo short chick is becoming so popular.....[/QUOTE]It seems there are many men with taste similar to yours.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2862679]However Cami is popular too. Her coach mate Celine (or Celina)[/QUOTE]I also thought her name was Celine but Cami says she is called Shirin.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2862639]Men have a variety of sexual likes. For example, some are into coprophilia (look it up) or 'watersports'. Some men are into foot worship and are especially turned on by sweaty or smelly feet. I say to each his own. It is good that there is variety so that all girls get attended to.[/QUOTE]When some girls ask to make them cum, but I don't think most will feel comfortable having feet licked when many have marks because of plastic for prostitutes high heels to look supermodel.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2862679]
I don't think Cami is pretty. If I score Lola 8 then Cami is just 4-5. However Cami is popular too. Her coach mate Celine (or Celina) seemed to be hard to get business.
[/QUOTE]I tried Shirin once before. Session was lacklustre and I would not repeat.
Cami, however, is cute, willing to please, and fun to be with. Have repeated many times.
Look forward to finding Lola.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2862967]I also thought her name was Celine but Cami says she is called Shirin.[/QUOTE]3 different blond. Celine is ex Oase, Cami for 80/30 or 130/60 . Is Lola small blond with kind of piercing above lips? Below jacuzzis.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2863018]When some girls ask to make them cum, but I don't think most will feel comfortable having feet licked when many have marks because of plastic for prostitutes high heels to look supermodel.[/QUOTE]You have forced me to give away my secret. Because of the discomfort caused by the stiletto heel shoes the girls wear no one has ever refused me giving them a foot massage. Having started with that they do not refuse further foot activities. My technique has been refined by years of practice and is only done with girls I regard as super hot.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2863224]You have forced me to give away my secret. Because of the discomfort caused by the stiletto heel shoes the girls wear no one has ever refused me giving them a foot massage. Having started with that they do not refuse further foot activities. My technique has been refined by years of practice and is only done with girls I regard as super hot.[/QUOTE]Hey was that you in the stairwell I saw! My sinuses were sore the whole week! But it was worse in Globe. Cigar smokers!
Not to mention some pretty unattractive men having public sex in the living room. Real mood breaker.
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Celine of (ex Oase) has left Sharks on Monday
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2863147]3 different blond. Celine is ex Oase, Cami for 80/30 or 130/60 . Is Lola small blond with kind of piercing above lips? Below jacuzzis.[/QUOTE]This Celine or Celin, imported from Oase in August, usually sat on couch at entrance, 19 yo, about 162 cm, blonde, strikingly beautiful, had left Sharks on Tuesday unfortunately.
This is one of biggest loss for Sharks visitors.
I tried to persuade Celine to stay, and gave her several one-hour sessions. However she said she could not make money in Sharks, some days only couple hundred euro a day.
I am so sad. Celine, as well as beautiful Stacy, are my top favorites. Stacy comes very rarely now.
Cami couch mate is another slim blonde, her name sounds like "cee-lin", only provides BJ with condom.
Lola is a small cutty with very good personality.
Eva from Spain and Sophia from Macedonia are good additions to Sharks.
Other models type elites such as Catelea Bibi Chloe Kim Jana Anna are present current lineup. Famous Catherine / kathleen (Anastasia) retired a few months ago.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2863249]Hey was that you in the stairwell I saw! My sinuses were sore the whole week! But it was worse in Globe. Cigar smokers!
Not to mention some pretty unattractive men having public sex in the living room. Real mood breaker.[/QUOTE]The person you saw was doing foot worship? Anyway it would not have been me as I do it only in private. I also would not have been among the men you saw having public sex as I'm pretty attractive, LOL.
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[QUOTE=JoeZakary;2851348]
Anyway, moving on, I go get some food and get my powers back for a few hours, I'm on the hunt for a big boobs girl, but all I see is silicone and arrogant girls, anyway I get approached by this french girl, Emily? She claims to be french from Paris and is 20 y/o, it all starts when she insists on giving me a massage which I refuse, then I say I only want half an hour and I agree for 100 but she seems very pissed, then she says its 50 extra for uncovered BJ, then I get the ick, I still refuse her offer and I tell her, never mind the BJ, lets just fuck, then she says okay but don't touch my nipple because of piercing LOL,[/QUOTE]Yup, I saw her in June. Huge scam artist. Relies on her natural tits for customers, then offers awful, rude, cold, horrible, up-charging service and endless demands in the room. Easily one of the worst women I've ever had in Sharks. Luckily, when you've been to sharks enough times, you have a list of "proven reputable regulars" who will happily make you forget you had such a bad experience.
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Celin comes back Friday
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2863433]This Celine or Celin, imported from Oase in August, usually sat on couch at entrance, 19 yo, about 162 cm, blonde, strikingly beautiful, had left Sharks on Tuesday unfortunately.
This is one of biggest loss for Sharks visitors.
I tried to persuade Celine to stay, and gave her several one-hour sessions. However she said she could not make money in Sharks, some days only couple hundred euro a day.
.[/QUOTE]After several days tryout in Samya club, blonde Celine (or Celin) finally comes back. I was so happy when I saw her presence in Sharks lineup. Good luck to her.
Actually she was very busy.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2863598]Yup, I saw her in June. Huge scam artist. Relies on her natural tits for customers, then offers awful, rude, cold, horrible, up-charging service and endless demands in the room. Easily one of the worst women I've ever had in Sharks. Luckily, when you've been to sharks enough times, you have a list of "proven reputable regulars" who will happily make you forget you had such a bad experience.[/QUOTE]Definitely dodged a bullet with this one. I got tempted by her nice figure, boobs even though I am not a fan of piercings. I talked to her, she introduced herself as Emily from Paris, and I was like sure as she looked and spoke Romanian. Didn't get a good vibe after talking to her as she was trying to be vague around the activities in the room. Told her no thanks and I will see her later. She didn't look happy. Now looking.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2863598]Yup, I saw her in June. Huge scam artist. Relies on her natural tits for customers, then offers awful, rude, cold, horrible, up-charging service and endless demands in the room. Easily one of the worst women I've ever had in Sharks. Luckily, when you've been to sharks enough times, you have a list of "proven reputable regulars" who will happily make you forget you had such a bad experience.[/QUOTE]Definitely dodged a bullet with this one. I got tempted by her nice figure, boobs even though I am not a fan of piercings. I talked to her, she introduced herself as Emily from Paris, and I was like sure as she looked and spoke Romanian. Didn't get a good vibe after talking to her as she was trying to be vague around the activities in the room. Told her no thanks and I will see her later. She didn't look happy. Thanks for sharing your experience, looks like I made the right choice of not going with her.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2863433]This Celine or Celin, imported from Oase in August, usually sat on couch at entrance, 19 yo, about 162 cm, blonde, strikingly beautiful, had left Sharks on Tuesday unfortunately.
This is one of biggest loss for Sharks visitors.
I tried to persuade Celine to stay, and gave her several one-hour sessions. However she said she could not make money in Sharks, some days only couple hundred euro a day.
I am so sad. Celine, as well as beautiful Stacy, are my top favorites. Stacy comes very rarely now.
Cami couch mate is another slim blonde, her name sounds like "cee-lin", only provides BJ with condom.
Lola is a small cutty with very good personality.
Eva from Spain and Sophia from Macedonia are good additions to Sharks.
Other models type elites such as Catelea Bibi Chloe Kim Jana Anna are present current lineup. Famous Catherine / kathleen (Anastasia) retired a few months ago.[/QUOTE]I saw blond Celine sitting around the pole, she seemed to have quite good business at Oase. Maybe ex Anastasia Oase finished to pay her silicon, after quite long time in business.
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Foot fancier
[QUOTE=Turgid;2863224]You have forced me to give away my secret. Because of the discomfort caused by the stiletto heel shoes the girls wear no one has ever refused me giving them a foot massage. Having started with that they do not refuse further foot activities. My technique has been refined by years of practice and is only done with girls I regard as super hot.[/QUOTE]Ha. I did go through a phase where I loved sucking on a girls feet and giving rimjobs (love receiving as well) but that in Dubai with girls I first had a bath with so could be sure everything was clean and found the feet and butthole to be attractive. In brothel / FKK scenarios it's very rare I find myself doing so and it only happens when I lose control and am caught up in lust but it is rare that a girl takes me to that level of ecstasy. When she does it's been a wonderful session as I've shed all inhibitions.
Anyway I have now just landed in Frankfurt so will be making my merry way to Sharks in a couple of hours.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2863772]Ha. I did go through a phase where I loved sucking on a girls feet and giving rimjobs (love receiving as well) but that in Dubai with girls I first had a bath with so could be sure everything was clean and found the feet and butthole to be attractive. In brothel / FKK scenarios it's very rare I find myself doing so and it only happens when I lose control and am caught up in lust but it is rare that a girl takes me to that level of ecstasy. When she does it's been a wonderful session as I've shed all inhibitions.
Anyway I have now just landed in Frankfurt so will be making my merry way to Sharks in a couple of hours.[/QUOTE]I love giving rimjobs but again only to those hot stunners who make me lose control. I am not really into receiving. I never ask to receive and have never been proposed by European girls. Asian girls on the other hand.....
I always bring wet wipes to the room and use them copiously on the girls.
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Rimming
[QUOTE=Turgid;2863821]I love giving rimjobs but again only to those hot stunners who make me lose control. I am not really into receiving. I never ask to receive and have never been proposed by European girls. Asian girls on the other hand.... I always bring wet wipes to the room and use them copiously on the girls.[/QUOTE]I like to eat ass. But only on the hottest of the hot. I've found over the years that most girls will at least tolerate it if they don't outright like it. Occasionally you'll find a girl who doesn't like it. And occasionally you'll find one who likes it for a fee! I admit I paid extra I'm Switzerland once to eat out a hot blonde Ruskie girl's "pope-ka". She was just too hot not to deserve my face buried between her arse cheeks. Seems to me though that one shouldn't have to pay in order to lick someone's ass LOL! I was with a pretty Romanian girl in Vienna who liked it, but she would always giggle because she said my tongue tickled her pink butt hole hahaha!
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2863867]I like to eat ass. But only on the hottest of the hot. I've found over the years that most girls will at least tolerate it if they don't outright like it. Occasionally you'll find a girl who doesn't like it. And occasionally you'll find one who likes it for a fee! I admit I paid extra I'm Switzerland once to eat out a hot blonde Ruskie girl's "pope-ka". She was just too hot not to deserve my face buried between her arse cheeks. Seems to me though that one shouldn't have to pay in order to lick someone's ass LOL! I was with a pretty Romanian girl in Vienna who liked it, but she would always giggle because she said my tongue tickled her pink butt hole hahaha![/QUOTE]All guys would eat ass given the right girl. There's not a man alive who would not eat out this girl.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2864065]All guys would eat ass given the right girl. There's not a man alive who would not eat out this girl.[/QUOTE]For sure, I would not, I don't like her face nor full of cellulite ass. Some girls are really sensitive when you touch their ass.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2863224]You have forced me to give away my secret. Because of the discomfort caused by the stiletto heel shoes the girls wear no one has ever refused me giving them a foot massage. Having started with that they do not refuse further foot activities. My technique has been refined by years of practice and is only done with girls I regard as super hot.[/QUOTE]Ooooh, I leveraged this same technique when I was in FKKs years ago. Hard to overstate how friendly the girls get after a 15 minute foot massage.
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Same here!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2864116]For sure, I would not, I don't like her face nor full of cellulite ass. Some girls are really sensitive when you touch their ass.[/QUOTE]I would not fuck that chick, let alone eat her ass. I totally don't like her face, which would be put off number one. Like I always say, if I can't get past that face, then I won't be getting to them hind parts LMAO! Men should refrain from saying things like [B]any[/B] man alive would go for a particular woman because tastes are just too varied and different. When it comes to eating out the ass, I think it suffices to say that many a man might come to his "break point" with the right woman for him and have to munch out that ass! Ha!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2864116]For sure, I would not, I don't like her face nor full of cellulite ass. Some girls are really sensitive when you touch their ass.[/QUOTE]Totally agree with you.
Not so beautiful girl as he thinks to deserve to get licked a bad Place where the shit comes out.
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[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2864204]Ooooh, I leveraged this same technique when I was in FKKs years ago. Hard to overstate how friendly the girls get after a 15 minute foot massage.[/QUOTE]And did you suck the toes? If yes how did they react?
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[QUOTE=LaBambaBoy;2864204]Hard to overstate how friendly the girls get after a 15 minute foot massage.[/QUOTE]Of course she loves it: you just flushed 50 Euros (15 minutes) down the toilet for which she didn't have to fuck, suck or kiss. LOL!
[QUOTE=MarkFkk;2864315]And did you suck the toes? If yes how did they react?[/QUOTE]Dude, this thread is about Sharks, not about toe sucking.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2863821]I love giving rimjobs but again only to those hot stunners who make me lose control. I am not really into receiving.[/QUOTE]I'm the exact opposite. I never give rimjobs but will happily accept one. I'm the one paying them for their services, so they should be servicing me. Not the other way around.
I don't see how any man could not enjoy a good rimjob, but everyone has their preferences.
Fingers in the butt? Nope. I don't do that. A WG sticking her tongue in there? That's heaven.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2864065]All guys would eat ass given the right girl. There's not a man alive who would not eat out this girl.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. I was married before and still didn't eat my wifes ass, nor did I ever ask her to eat mine.
[QUOTE=Austin28;2863702]Definitely dodged a bullet with this one. I got tempted by her nice figure, boobs even though I am not a fan of piercings... [/QUOTE]
That’s good. You certainly did. I would be surprised if she’s even French.
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I disagree. I was married before and still didn't eat my wifes ass, nor did I ever ask her to eat mine.
.[/QUOTE]You are not alone. I think there are a bunch of things I'd never do in marriage that I tried out in the clubs or with sugarbabes. After nearly two decades, sexual heat in a marriage cools down like planet earth cooled down after 4 billion years to a rock. Even the things we did while dating before marriage, we almost never do. It's a comfortable, once or twice a month, pleasant programmatic sex, otherwise might as well be platonic. Perversion is the first thing that leaks out of a marriage, replaced by politeness.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2864292]I would not fuck that chick, let alone eat her ass. I totally don't like her face, which would be put off number one. Like I always say, if I can't get past that face, then I won't be getting to them hind parts LMAO! Men should refrain from saying things like [B]any[/B] man alive would go for a particular woman because tastes are just too varied and different. When it comes to eating out the ass, I think it suffices to say that many a man might come to his "break point" with the right woman for him and have to munch out that ass! Ha![/QUOTE]Each time I m told about a beauty, when I see with my eyes, I m disappointed. I only trust my eyes and mind for image.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2863147]3 different blond. Celine is ex Oase, Cami for 80/30 or 130/60 . Is Lola small blond with kind of piercing above lips? Below jacuzzis.[/QUOTE]Is 80/30 a more common rate now?
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Something More to your taste guys
The guys who said no to the brunette I know like blondes. I know they would not refuse to eat this gal's ass.
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Sharks current rate
I spent 2 weekends 4 days in Sharks and talked to more than 50 different girls. The current prevalent rates are below:
1) Elite class girls which including Catelea, Chloe, Alina, Kitty, Kim, Anna, Bibi, Tebea, Brenda, Sophie (De), Kateya, Maxima (FR), Ariana (Spain), Isabella, Vanessa, etc. These girls all charged 100/30, 200/60 standard flat price. Kiss or lick might or might not be surcharge.
2) some popular class girls such as Stacy, Celine (new from Oase), Lola, Florina, Eva, Simara, Sibel, Amy, Mira, Mina, Mila, Juliana (Julia), Mara, Teodora, Lorena, Adriana, Lina, Roxy, Ruby, Emma, Shirin (old Celine), Sophia (Macedonia), Jennifer (new), etc, they also charged 100/30 flat price but 200/60 most likely, 150/60 sometimes. Kiss and lick pusy might also lead to 50 euros surcharge.
3) other girls also charge 100/30 including most ugly girls or senior girls.
4) Cami now also requests 100/30 150/60 if you are new to her. She becomes very popular now and busy weekends she could get 10+ rooms. If you still think she accepts 70/30 then you might be wrong. Her new friend Rosa also requested 100/50.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2863147]3 different blond. Celine is ex Oase, Cami for 80/30 or 130/60 . Is Lola small blond with kind of piercing above lips? Below jacuzzis.[/QUOTE]Are you sure about 130/60 or was that just a typo? Read recent report from Happy Tour (very helpful) which suggest 1 hour is now 200 without any extra for majority of girls. If the 130/60 is correct she must have a long queue!
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2864596]Is 80/30 a more common rate now?[/QUOTE]Not common, but only very few new girls. I enjoyed my best Sharks 2021 girl for 150/80 for real GFE with real FK and she did let go after 3 months break.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2864730]Are you sure about 130/60 or was that just a typo? Read recent report from Happy Tour (very helpful) which suggest 1 hour is now 200 without any extra for majority of girls. If the 130/60 is correct she must have a long queue![/QUOTE]Many got Cami for 80/30 and even a asian type French to who I showed her and he did thank me. I think some girls don t ask same from what we are and for sure we don t have same standard for elite when I would rank only from Rhur escorting Sofi. De for her level in bed, but would never pay 200/60 for Katalea or Kity level, when I enjoy so far higher level for sex and more elegant in NRW for 130/150/60 , much better value.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2864632]The guys who said no to the brunette I know like blondes. I know they would not refuse to eat this gal's ass.[/QUOTE]Yes, I m much more excited by this US image. For me, the most they look like normal women, the most they are exciting for me, when porn images kill my desire. I hate piercing on face, or nipples, or pussy, when I m afraid to break a tooth.
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Nope!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2864632]The guys who said no to the brunette I know like blondes. I know they would not refuse to eat this gal's ass.[/QUOTE]Don't like her face [B]or[/B] her body LMAO!
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Sharks. Saturday 28 October
I stayed at Martrim hotel near Darmstadt HBF and got a cab to Sharks, arriving at about 5 pm. Cab cost around E11 and club entry was E65. Nothing has really changed since my last visit 4 years ago other than the pricing for services.
Were a lot of girls. I didn't try counting but perhaps around 80. Possibly a few more. General quality was good and pretty much as before though perhaps weren't the several jaw dropping stunners that you'the sometimes find though the memory always makes things better in the past.
There were only a couple of "exes" and one other girl I recognised from the old days. One was Brenda who is famous on this forum. I had her a couple of times years ago. The first time she was called Brandy and service was really good, the second time not so much so I never bothered again. Her looks and especially her figure perhaps merit another chance as it's rare to find women who are slim and naturally stacked. I did repeat with my other "ex".
Francesca. I took my time before choosing my first girl, eyeing up the talent and speaking to a few girls. I was sat at the bar next to this brunette who I found very facially attractive as she had lovely eyes and a nice smile. Slim, maybe 30 years old, long hair. She had fake knockers and a few tattoos neither of which I'm a fan of but not necessarily a dealbreaker. Had a dusky complexion and claimed to be Spanish from the Granada region but I assume she's Romanian.
Specified services and price beforehand. Said she was happy with DFK, RO and OWO and 100/30 or 200/60. I said I'the start with 30 minutes but if service was good would be happy to extend to an hour but for E150. She agreed and it was off to the room.
Service was very good and she had a pleasant demeanour. She delivered on the promised services and also gave good ball licking. Lots of nice teasing foreplay and after a couple of blowjob sessions (I had to pause once and redirect her to my upper torso to avoid cumming too soon. I then went down on her for ages. It's something I'm very good at and she enjoyed it and asked me to also finger her at the same time which I did with gusto and took her to orgasm.
After she got her breath back, it was back to being pleasured orally. I told her I was about to cum and she didn't go for the CIM but instead started wanking me off. I asked her to lick my balls at the same time and ended up with a shuddering orgasm.
Overall, I was very pleased. However, she didn't loiter around for any post coital bliss which is a downtick and must have been in the room for 45 minutes so on a pro rata basis she got her E200 per hour. I wasn't going to put her in the repeat category anyway but that definitely confirms the position.
Miss be and Katja. Earlier I caught up with my other "ex" and said I'the go with her later and as a part of a threesome. I'm calling her Miss. Be as she does not wish to be reported upon. I went for a massage after my first session with the fairly fit blonde masseuse which was pretty good and still costs E60 for an hour.
Afterwards decided to go with MIss be and some fresh meat. She said her rate was now 100/30 and 150/60 which is fine and I was looking for someone with a similar pricing structure who would also provide DFK and OWO. Preferably with natural tits.
She pointed out a couple of girls but I didn't fancy them so instead I pointed out the ones I liked and we would both ask them if they were up for a threesome and would provide the services. They were mainly the younger, hotter ones and they all wanted 200 and some said they didn't do DFK. One that particularly caught my eye was a petite blonde called Anna or Amy who was a real cutie and had a barely legal look but she wanted 200 with no DFK.
Eventually found someone at the right price and level of looks. I had noted Katja as a possible before as she has a very pretty face and is blonde with fairly long hair. Relatively petite and about 30 years old, natural body, no tattoos and Romanian. Overall a tidy package and someone I had my eye on anyway.
I've had numerous threesomes (and moresomes) over the years and this was right up there with the best of them. Was simply amazing.
It started off great and got better. We were all standing and snogging each other when they took turns to get on their knees to suck me off before moving to the bed.
Lots of DFK with both of them, they took numerous turns sucking me off. Miss be more sensuous with lots of licking whereas Katja would go really deep. They obviously both love and are highly skilled at sucking cock. When one was blowing me the other would feed me her tits or nuzzle on my chest. I came close to coming numerous times so had to pull the blow girl away and sometimes had both nuzzling my chest at the same time. Had a couple of delicious moments when one was sucking on my balls whilst the other sucked me off and they then alternated though generally they would clean my cock with wet wipes when swapping. Also had Katja sit on my face and I ate her to my heart's delight and made her cum.
Moved onto doggy with both of them and I eventually came with Katja sucking me off (she really gives great head and maintains lovely eye contact. I told her I was cumming and she stopped sucking and started wanking but her blowjob is so good told her to continue and take my cum in her mouth which of course attracts a E50 surcharge but it was all about feeling ecstatic at that point. Overall the session cost me E350 but I was feeling great.
It was 1130 pm. Normally I stay until near to closure but wasn't sure if I would be able to muster another shot so went back to the hotel. I regret that now especially as the clocks went back so I had an extra hour to recover.
Overall, a fantastic night and I'm glad the numbers and general quality of Sharks hasn't changed too much. It's the pricing that has of course changed. I spent E500 on girls. The most I've previously spent at an FKK on girls was E600, most recently for three one hour threesomes, so on six girls. But it is, what it is! I've always associated Sharks with young hotties with smooth bodies. They're still there but want E100/30 or 200/60.
I'm back in Frankfurt on Friday for three nights and am planning Palace on Friday, Oase on Saturday and unless I fall in love at one of those places, pretty sure I'll be back in Sharks on Sunday. If so, will tuck into a couple of young hotties. And view it through the prism of Dubai prices where an equivalent girl on an incall typically commands E300 with a range from E250-400 per hour (where Dubai comes into its own is for the variety of colours and nationalities and if you pick up a girl from a club for longtime or overnight where it does become better value than Europe).
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2864596]Is 80/30 a more common rate now?[/QUOTE]Common is 100 for 30 , many not even fkissing. 30 mn are not for my love in bed game. On my last visit, on last party Sunday, except Ukrainian tornado, didn t see any to pay for, when no need to repeat with too professionnal, don t touch my silicon, Tunisian who did escort in France, big ass, Maxima.
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Maxima is very popular
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2864882]Common is 100 for 30 , many not even fkissing. 30 mn are not for my love in bed game. On my last visit, on last party Sunday, except Ukrainian tornado, didn t see any to pay for, when no need to repeat with too professionnal, don t touch my silicon, Tunisian who did escort in France, big ass, Maxima.[/QUOTE]Even if you want to repeat Maxima, the half-French, you would not have opportunity. She always was fully booked by her fans during weekend. And her rate is 200/60 at least. It is too expensive if money is a big issue for you Sir.
However, Maxima is very nice and humble.
Comparing to Asian specialist Kitty who is arrogant and always pisses her customers off. Poor Asians fans who some of them paid 150 euro for kitty's 15 min.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2864875]Specified services and price beforehand. Said she was happy with DFK, RO and OWO and 100/30 or 200/60. I said I'the start with 30 minutes but if service was good would be happy to extend to an hour but for E150. She agreed and it was off to the room.[/QUOTE]Way to go. Several on ISG could learn from this. Thanks for an excellent report!
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2864969]Way to go. Several on ISG could learn from this. Thanks for an excellent report![/QUOTE]Killing mood and desire to grocer like for a carpet. Surprise and skill are so much more enjoyable. My Game. Like when you work, you get from your level.
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Mara, Juliana, Vanessa
Mara, Juliana and Vanessa all sat at same couch in the center of club but facing Bar. Vanessa actually treated customers much nicer than before and she seemed look younger now. Mara and Juliana, beautiful pair, always walked together and they look like sisters. 100/30 deserves to try.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2864969]Way to go. Several on ISG could learn from this. Thanks for an excellent report![/QUOTE]Too true. There are quite a few reports in recent months, on other forums, where punters have admitted paying 150/30, and sometimes more, for standard service.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2864966]Even if you want to repeat Maxima, the half-French, you would not have opportunity. She always was fully booked by her fans during weekend. And her rate is 200/60 at least. It is too expensive if money is a big issue for you Sir.
However, Maxima is very nice and humble.
Comparing to Asian specialist Kitty who is arrogant and always pisses her customers off. Poor Asians fans who some of them paid 150 euro for kitty's 15 min.[/QUOTE]On my way to my Summer holidays, when many French were so enthusiastic about her and because I miss french communication while sex, what I loved with Lora, I made mistake to go with her, beautiful eyes, very welcoming when she knew I'm a real French, when she is 0 French, just speaking, like most in Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria, but bad silicon You can t touch and too professional, my mistake, not interesting for sex for me and I was furious to have to pay 200 when she told me we were for more than 1 hour, when I m not a rabbit. Immaculate look except lips Kity is much higher pleasure for my eyes than rebuilt Maxima, but I agree Kity is now in easy Asians. Maxima was my second room, fortunately my first was really high real GFE level.
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Mara Juliana and Vanessa Location
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2864994]Mara, Juliana and Vanessa all sat at same couch in the center of club but facing Bar. Vanessa actually treated customers much nicer than before and she seemed look younger now. Mara and Juliana, beautiful pair, always walked together and they look like sisters. 100/30 deserves to try.[/QUOTE]To find Vanessa, does the white arrow in attached photo show the right location in Sharks? (Picture is from Google Map Street view, and taken from 2nd Floor). Thanks.
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When some who are not wow look ask 100/30 or 200/60 or even more expensive and some not even kissing, I don t see any at the moment worthing 200/60 for look and GFE potential, even with real FK when so few know what it is really, when I don t go for fast 30 mn, compare to German escorts for now mostly 200/60 but other planet than expensive little Romanians and no entry to pay, even Sharks worth entry rate. Can also find much better value in some other clubs, when I find higher level for 130/150/60 or 200/90 . A bit like many who still think Globe is best, when down for quality with average looks for 150/30 and some Sharks girls are competing.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2865077]To find Vanessa, does the white arrow in attached photo show the right location in Sharks? (Picture is from Google Map Street view, and taken from 2nd Floor). Thanks.[/QUOTE]The corner couch is the center of club but facing bar. Vanness, Mara and Juliana sit together. They are pretty.
Next to them are Kitty's clique (4 girls), which are ugly (except Kitty) moody and have bad manners (including Kitty) all the time.
Kitty's clique includes Kitty, Malvania, Tamara, and 4th girl, some of them belong to ex-Betty's clique. Try to avoid them to save you money and mood.
Under aquarium couch now occupied by Adriana, Lorena, Teodora, etc. They are ok and deserve to try 100/30. Roxy's group share couch with them.
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Map
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2865229]The corner couch is the center of club but facing bar. Vanness, Mara and Juliana sit together. They are pretty.
Next to them are Kitty's clique (4 girls), which are ugly (except Kitty) moody and have bad manners (including Kitty) all the time.
Kitty's clique includes Kitty, Malvania, Tamara, and 4th girl, some of them belong to ex-Betty's clique. Try to avoid them to save you money and mood.
Under aquarium couch now occupied by Adriana, Lorena, Teodora, etc. They are ok and deserve to try 100/30. Roxy's group share couch with them.[/QUOTE]THanks very much HappyTour for the location. As the attachment picture doesn't work, I hope this crude dot map below works.
Can anyone tell me where famous Catalea and Chloe usually sit?
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[QUOTE=David1266;2865592]THanks very much HappyTour for the location. As the attachment picture doesn't work, I hope this crude dot map below works.
Can anyone tell me where famous Catalea and Chloe usually sit?
][/QUOTE]Kloe close to stairs. Katalea close to ex kino where she takes for fast rooms.
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Girl location
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2865632]Kloe close to stairs. Katalea close to ex kino where she takes for fast rooms.[/QUOTE]Thanks Siri. My Map (Both pictures and dot art format) were deleted by Admin twice. It seems that it's not allowed.
Summary location of well-known Sharks girls (correct me if I am wrong):
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Celine (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (back of the bar, under TV display).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Kitty (near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
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Is Nov. Dec good time to visit
Hello learned members.
I have been to Frankfurt clubs only once. In the summer of 2022. I chose summer (July end) because I read on the forums that its a great time to enjoy outdoor areas. The pool is open and the food is served outside. Just providing addiitonal space to relax and enjoy. On the downside, I read that some girls actually travel back to their home countries during the summer. Anyways, I had a blast and I declared my first ever 7-8 days trip to different FKKs a success.
Now, I have an opportunity to be in the Frankfurt area in few weeks from now. Late November / early December. My question is. Is this a good time to visit FKKs. In terms of the weather, outside sitting etc AND also in terms of the availability of girls.
Thanks in advance.
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Trip report. Monday mid October
Recently I was in Germany on a biz trip and used the opportunity to go to Frankfurt area FKKs. This was my first trip in four and half years. *On this trip, I visited Sharks on Monday and Wednesday. * The below report is on my Monday visit. I will add Wednesday visit as another report.
Monday was calm with a good ratio of girls to guys. Reached there at around 3:30 PM, paid euro 65 entrance. Many new girls in the LU compared to my last trip, only a few familiar faces. Took a shower, grabbed a coffee and started looking around. Some girls approached and asked the usual questions, is it your first time, where you from, how long, want to relax in the room together? Some came in duo and offered their combined services. Told later to all of them, outright rejecting the threesome offer. After an hour and half, a girl named Nico comes, she already introduced herself once and I told her later, and she comes back. We Chatted for a while, then decided to go with her. We agree on services (BBBJ, 69, Regular for 100/30). She has a meaty ass (more cushion for pushing), natural tits, and decent looking. We go to the room downstairs with the mirrors. Hugs in the room, on the bed and then she starts with a decent BBBJ. She asks me how I want (slow or fast), I ask her to go slowly. She gives a very slow and sensual BBBJ. After that I ask her to*show me her pussy and*spread her*lips, she does so and tells me that no fingers inside. **She skips 69 and I don't ask (I should have). Puts on the condom and I ask her to ride me. I admire the view both in front of me but also in the mirrors. Then she asks for a change in position and I ask for a doggy. Her ass is perfect for a doggy, lots of cushion. I go slow first, admiring the view in the mirrors around me, and go faster and come in the bag. We clean it up, go out and I pay her. Overall decent punt and felt satisfied with my first. Usually on every visit I go wrong on my first as I think from my dick out of excitement, but compared to all of them this seemed decent.
After a shower, I go to the sauna. There was a schedule posted at the sauna door with Dieter's name as sauna master. I go to the front desk lady and ask if that schedule was correct as I don't see him or any sessions happening, and she tells me that he called in sick that day but would be happy to provide me with the bucket and fragrances for me to do my own, and I say no thank you as I am not an expert. But I do go to the sauna, as I do enjoy it and one*of*the*things I look forward to during my FKK visits. After sauna, I freshen up and relax and was ready for my second session. The quality of the LU did not look that great but still a lot better than the LU at Oase on Tuesday. I will add a report on my Oase visit in that section. Coming back to Sharks, most of the girls there looked as if they didn't care about any business for*that day, they were sitting on the couches chatting with their friends, or playing slots / video games. Now I can see that only few ugly ones were making the rounds, a local German guy who was sitting close by on the couches makes a comment that none of them want any business today, but points me to a old one (the oldest one in the club) and says except her. He tells me that the girls are there on a Monday and Tuesday because of the club mandates and most of them make their money from Wed to Saturday / Sunday, so they don't have much motivation. But I felt*they*were losing*on easy money as people like me who were visiting from a different country will be spending the same or more and only have a narrow window to do that. He gives me advice that, given what he is seeing on that day, I may have to approach the girls if I like them.
I take his advice and go and talk to a nice petite girl sitting all by herself at the bar (on the left hand side when you enter the club). For most of the time I was noticing, I could see her sitting alone and keeping to herself. I approach her, introduce myself, she tells me her name is Nia and is from Bulgaria. She is not permanent at Sharks and also works at Golden Vienna, and splits her time between the two clubs. Apparently, she is part of a group who shuttle between the two clubs and it's a 11 hour drive. She asks me how much time it takes from me to get to Frankfurt and I tell her it's a 11 hour flight. Ok, now chit chat done, and back to business, we agree on the activities which for me are the same FK, BBBJ, 69, and regular sex. 100/30. We go to the one of the rooms downstairs closer to the massage section. She gives me an ok FK, nothing to write about, I ask for a BJ and she starts pulling a condom and I remind her that I prefer without, she says "it's ok" and gives me a decent BBBJ. I run my hand through her body, squeeze her ass, touch her pussy (no fingers inside), play with her tits (nice and natural bee). I like her petite and young look. At this point she reminds that CIM is extra and I tell her I know and not interested. She asks me for sex and again goes to her purse to pull the condom, but this time I ask for 69 and she again*says*"it's ok" and goes in to 69 position aligning her pussy on my face and starts giving sloppy BBBJ. Her pussy was nice, bit*of sandpaper feel*at pubic hair area but not a problem. It felt really nice that I was eating away this young girl's*pussy where she was going to town with BBBJ. I could see that she was enjoying my service with all the nice noises she was making (I have been complimented before on my this skill). After a decent few minutes she orgasms on my face. Now she asks me how I want to fuck and I ask her to ride me. She puts on the condom and starts riding me. Her rhythm*was a bit weird and I thought that maybe she is not good at this position, even then I let*do the work when I was running my hands over her tits and body. After riding for decent few minutes she asks for change in position and we go for doggy. I slowly thurst*her admiring my dick in her pussy, and also view in the mirror in the front. After few minutes I go fast and come in the bag. Clean up and out of the room, we have a small chat and she tells me that at Golden each of the activities she did (FK, BBBJ, 69) are 50 euro extra each and I say sure. But she tells me that Sharks is better of the two clubs where she can make more money.
Take a shower, get something to eat and relax on the couch. Then I see bunch of folks going towards sauna and I follow them. One guy takes the responsibility of orchestrating*it. I take a quick shower, dry myself and go and sit in the sauna with others. The guy does a more than decent job of creating the steam and directing it towards each one of us. After the session, take another shower, drink lots of water and I come to the couch to relax. I was not ready for the third session yet so just sit at the couch and admire all the beautiful girls walking around naked. I have not been to such clubs in any other country but this is a very unique experience of FKK and especially Sharks with its layout, where you can get full vision of the club from quite a few couch*locations.
After relaxing for a bit, I start walking around*thinking that I may go for one more if I see anyone interesting,*or just call it a day. * while walking around bump in to a girl walking in the opposite direction, and she introduces herself as Carlisle / Carlee. Bownish skin with nice complexion, beautiful face, natural tits and nice looking ass. I tell her that I will see her later. I believe she sits below the fish tank but towards the stairs. One another girl comes to me and asks me to feel her skin and tells me that she does not put any makeup (I believe her name starts with L) and I think this was her selling point. She seemed aggressive and could see continuously*going to the rooms with customers. *At this point, I see group of guys going to sauna and I follow them again. This sauna session was more than decent, and I feel completely*drained and relaxed. Take a shower, drink lots of water and go back to the couches to relax. Now feel for another round and run in to Carlisle again. I ask her if she was available. She seems surprised on my ask as she was not expecting. We agree on the activities (FK, BBBJ, 69 and Sex for 100/30). While walking towards the room she tells me that she appreciates me going to back to her and also for remembering her name. We go to one of the rooms downstairs, again where closer to the massage rooms. In the room she tells me that she is from Spain and says a few Spanish words, but I could tell she was not from Spain and looked either from RO or MOLDOVA. Her FK was decent, and goes for BBBJ. Her BBBJ skills were excellent and I admire her body by running my hand over, feeling / squeezing her tits, ass, touching her pussy. She remembers about 69 and it was good that I don't have to remind her. She gets in to the position and starts giving my fast and sloppy BBBJ while go to town eating her pussy. Her pussy smelled and tasted very nice and fresh. I very much enjoy this part of the session, and I could see that she was enjoying this too and the way she*was making*noises but also the increased intensity of her BBBJ. It went for way long (compared to my previous other sessions). After a while, she asked about sex and I obliged. Rubber on and I ask her to ride me as I was feeling drained already. She rides me well and it was very good. Almost about to cum, I ask for a change in position and we get in to doggy. I admire the view and my cock in her pussy. I start slowly and then keep pushing. For some reason I cannot come in this position, she does her best to make it better. I think I was tired for the day and it was showing. I ask her to finish me with a hand job and she oblizes. She starts slowly and then increases the pace. I really likes her handjob techinique and now I was glad that I got to experience that as well. After few minutes I come in her hand. Clean up and out of the room, and pay her at the lockers.
At this point I felt completely exhausted but also satisfied*for the day, and called it a night. It was already 11:10 PM. Cleaned up my lockers, ordered a taxi and got to Darmstadt*HBF to catch the 11:30 or 12 AM RB train to Frankfurt HBF.
Overall thoughts:
1) Cannot state enough on the unique FKK experience. Really enjoyed it.
2) More and more people are aware of FKKs and the Frankfurt ones are main ones. Earlier, I could hide this activity on my biz trips to Frankfurt but now I worry that I may run into fellow colleague *or someone I know, since now more and more are aware of it.
3) All the three sessions, the sauna breaks, food, everything felt really nice and reminded me how I missed all of this for the last 4 and half years.
4) The price increase has both pros and cons.
Pro: All three sessions were very decent in terms of the activities and service in the room when compared to my previous 50/30 sessions, where half the activities were not involved and service used to be very basic.
Cons: With every new girl, it is still a gamble, so if your wrong then you are 100+ euros down, so which means that you really have to do a good job filtering them out before you go to the room.
With 50 euro, you can always take a chance. In the past, it allowed me take more risks but the same would be costly now.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2863663]After several days tryout in Samya club, blonde Celine (or Celin) finally comes back. I was so happy when I saw her presence in Sharks lineup. Good luck to her.
[/QUOTE]You'll be pleased to know your friend Celine was still there this weekend. I asked her about her price and service she said 100 euros for the first half hour for blow job and sex then 50 euros for the half hour after that which seemed fair. I accept my fault but I failed the qualify the nature of the blow job as in the room she said uncovered would be another 50 euros which would have taken the price to 150 euros for a half an hour. I turned down upsell, never have I been in Sharks and this has been an extra before.
Positives: She looks good.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2866046]You'll be pleased to know your friend Celine was still there this weekend. I asked her about her price and service she said 100 euros for the first half hour for blow job and sex then 50 euros for the half hour after that which seemed fair. I accept my fault but I failed the qualify the nature of the blow job as in the room she said uncovered would be another 50 euros which would have taken the price to 150 euros for a half an hour. I turned down upsell, never have I been in Sharks and this has been an extra before.
Positives: She looks good.[/QUOTE]So she would ask 200/30 for BBBJ and FK? When was 100/30 at Oase with less make up. Some girls are going crazy at Sharks and not the best for sex, when most best are for 150/60 .
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[QUOTE=Marylander;2865856]Hello learned members.
My question is. Is this a good time to visit FKKs. In terms of the weather, outside sitting etc AND also in terms of the availability of girls.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The weather is bad, unless you like lots of rain. The rest is still good, especially at Sharks.
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Thanks
[QUOTE=Mechelen;2866072]The weather is bad, unless you like lots of rain. The rest is still good, especially at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks friend.
What about the temperatures?
Also, if the outdoor space is not very usable, wouldn't that lead to crowding indoors?
Overall, will it be a good idea to plan a visit?
Thanks again!!
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Catelea, Celin and Shirin
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2866046]You'll be pleased to know your friend Celine was still there this weekend.
Positives: She looks good.[/QUOTE]Well, I never know Celin would charge 150/30. I always gave her one-hour sessions which including BBBJ cost 200/60. Of course I don't need longer time BJ because this 19 yo striking beauty would be enough to make me finish within one hour. Currently Celine is the cutest girl in Sharks. She deserves 200/60.
According to your description, I believe the girl you met must be Ex-Celine now named Shirin. TBH, As a couch friend of Cami, Shirin is also a [B]very pretty girl [/B]could be top 10 among lineup but she always demands 100/30 with cover, and 150/30 with ZK and BBBJ.
And now, 100/30 and 200/60 are universal flat rate in Sharks except Cami might accept 80/30 150/60, however Cami starts to hike prices to 100/30 for new customers since November because she is very hot and popular now.
Kitty still provides 100/30 with covered BJ,150/30 with light BBBJ, or 200/30 full service. Chloe also quoted me 150/30 with BBBJ.
I like Catelea very much, the tallest and most beautiful girl in club. I gave her several 2-hours sessions and paid her 400 each time. She is one of few girls could provide GFE to me. She hugged and kissed my neck and saying gently "I am waiting for you to come next time. . " With Her beautiful smile. This could be the wonderful memory of my trip. [B]Catelea never behave like professional tute as Kitty does.[/B].
I believe Roxy would still accept 100/30 and 150/30 for good service. But she is always fully booked by her fans.
Try Spanish Ariana, 22 yo beautiful girl, 200/60 could also give you good GFE.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2866069]So she would ask 200/30 for BBBJ and FK? When was 100/30 at Oase with less make up. Some girls are going crazy at Sharks and not the best for sex, when most best are for 150/60 .[/QUOTE]The rate 200/60 for top beauty girls in Sharks is very reasonable. In Paris you have to pay at least double or triple price for same level escorts. Even if in Bucharest, Prague, or Budapest, you would have to pay at least that rate to get similar levels girls.
I agree at least 60% girls in Club do not deserve 200/60 but ok for 100/30.
You must blame Presidents Biden or EU central bank to cause inflation which hike the price. It is Not girls' fault.
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[QUOTE=Marylander;2865856]Hello learned members.
I have been to Frankfurt clubs only once. In the summer of 2022. I chose summer (July end) because I read on the forums that its a great time to enjoy outdoor areas. The pool is open and the food is served outside. Just providing addiitonal space to relax and enjoy. On the downside, I read that some girls actually travel back to their home countries during the summer. Anyways, I had a blast and I declared my first ever 7-8 days trip to different FKKs a success.
Now, I have an opportunity to be in the Frankfurt area in few weeks from now. Late November / early December. My question is. Is this a good time to visit FKKs. In terms of the weather, outside sitting etc AND also in terms of the availability of girls.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Not good times around Christmas / new year and orthodox Easter.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2865841]Thanks Siri. My Map (Both pictures and dot art format) were deleted by Admin twice. It seems that it's not allowed.
Summary location of well-known Sharks girls (correct me if I am wrong):
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Celine (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (back of the bar, under TV display).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Kitty (near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).[/QUOTE]Some on your list are bad value for money they ask and best at Sharks are not on your list. I don t see any at Sharks worthing escort rate compare to exceptionnal Germans we can find. 180/90 or 200/90 for me. My only tip, in any club, is choose on your own, when I m always disappointed when told about a beauty and we don t all experience same. Best are not the most expensive at Sharks and seem now less upselling at Oase. But Winter arrived, even some Germans pay crazy for little girls. At for Italians Wellcum. At, I got really french kissing and BBBJ, DATY for 140/60 with a woman image, not a schoolgirl. At Oase, same for 100 for very full 30 mn with a ex Sharks. Funny she told me: at Sharks, I thought You were difficult for girls, now I know not. In NRW, I used to less than 150 for 1 hour for girls I would choose at Globe now.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2865229]The corner couch is the center of club but facing bar. Vanness, Mara and Juliana sit together. They are pretty.
Next to them are Kitty's clique (4 girls), which are ugly (except Kitty) moody and have bad manners (including Kitty) all the time.
Kitty's clique includes Kitty, Malvania, Tamara, and 4th girl, some of them belong to ex-Betty's clique. Try to avoid them to save you money and mood.
Under aquarium couch now occupied by Adriana, Lorena, Teodora, etc. They are ok and deserve to try 100/30. Roxy's group share couch with them.[/QUOTE]Yes, Vanessa and Mara are pretty and friendly. But Juliana has also very bad manners. I saw a man come out of a room with Juliana and they have an argue, clearly he was very unhappy and unsatisfied. Then he paid unwillingly and he made an a sign to us in couch who watched them, not to take her to room. He looks disgusted of the situation. I want to ask him what happened but I never saw him again.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866152]
According to your description, I believe the girl you met must be Ex-Celine now named Shirin[/QUOTE]The girl I went with said her name was Celine, she told me she was 19 and used to work in Oase. Cami is one of my favourites, it was definitely not her friend Shirin.
I don't think it's unusual if a girl changes her price or service that regular customers continue to get the old price or service as some girls don't want to risk upsetting them. There are still men in Sharks who pay the old 50 euros for half an hour rate. So that could be why you get something different than what I was offered.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866152]Well, I never know Celin would charge 150/30. I always gave her one-hour sessions which including BBBJ cost 200/60. Of course I don't need longer time BJ because this 19 yo striking beauty would be enough to make me finish within one hour. Currently Celine is the cutest girl in Sharks. She deserves 200/60.
According to your description, I believe the girl you met must be Ex-Celine now named Shirin. TBH, As a couch friend of Cami, Shirin is also a [B]very pretty girl [/B]could be top 10 among lineup but she always demands 100/30 with cover, and 150/30 with ZK and BBBJ.
And now, 100/30 and 200/60 are universal flat rate in Sharks except Cami might accept 80/30 150/60, however Cami starts to hike prices to 100/30 for new customers since November because she is very hot and popular now.
Kitty still provides 100/30 with covered BJ,150/30 with light BBBJ, or 200/30 full service. Chloe also quoted me 150/30 with BBBJ.
I like Catelea very much, the tallest and most beautiful girl in club. I gave her several 2-hours sessions and paid her 400 each time. She is one of few girls could provide GFE to me. She hugged and kissed my neck and saying gently "I am waiting for you to come next time. . " With Her beautiful smile. This could be the wonderful memory of my trip. [B]Catelea never behave like professional tute as Kitty does.[/B].
I believe Roxy would still accept 100/30 and 150/30 for good service. But she is always fully booked by her fans.
Try Spanish Ariana, 22 yo beautiful girl, 200/60 could also give you good GFE.[/QUOTE]Seem girls ask you more expensive than they ask others, when you seem to think expensive mean quality, but none in your post worth 200/60 for me, when Kity is not interesting enough for sex for a Caucasian for such rate. I had so many times Katalea for 150/60 , making her cum with her pointing hardening nipples and chicken skin on ass, I m the only one who seemed to experience her body reactions, when nobody else reported, but it was when she didn't need heavy make up to hide her skin. Same for Bibi with impressive growing hardening nipples. There are far higher level girls at Sharks than your list here, except Roxi, miss Sharks 2022 . At Sharks, turned the lowest level, now the most expensive and there are like you to pay over than real value, when my eyes don't see any wow to fall for. I don't see any to pay 200/60 at Sharks, when I so often paid 200/50+ or even for the night with escorts in Paris who were far prettier than your little Romanians. Since 2022 , I find level of Romanians is really falling for quality, when I had really great weekly regular ones before and for less expensive. Since 2022 , for good girls at Sharks, I had few Germans with Sofi. De, and Lora. FR before she tried to fuck her french regulars with Romanian pimps technique, but 0 Romanians who are not pretty enough or don't worth rate they ask.
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[QUOTE=Marylander;2866110]
What about the temperatures?
Also, if the outdoor space is not very usable, wouldn't that lead to crowding indoors?
Overall, will it be a good idea to plan a visit?
[/QUOTE]It is not freezing yet, but temperatures are now between 5 and 15 degrees Celcius. On busy days it is crowded but not too much.
Sure it is a good idea to come now.
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Bulgarian girl
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2866161]Some on your list are bad value for money they ask and best at Sharks are not on your list. [/QUOTE]I would appreciate it if you tell us your "best" who is not on this list (with location). You are like an encyclopedia.
Does anyone know the Bulgarian girl's name (blue eye, nice smile, not petite, large breast), who sits on the couch at the left side of the dance pole? (or far right side from entrance).
Some people ask "Why do you want to know name"?
If you know the name, you can search on this forum and find her reputation.
Also, you can ask people if she is currently working or on vacation.
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Girl Map
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866152]Well, I never know Celin would charge 150/30. I always gave her one-hour sessions which including BBBJ cost 200/60. Of course I don't need longer time BJ because this 19 yo striking beauty would be enough to make me finish within one hour. Currently Celine is the cutest girl in Sharks. She deserves 200/60.
According to your description, I believe the girl you met must be Ex-Celine now named Shirin. TBH, As a couch friend of Cami, Shirin is also a [B]very pretty girl [/B]could be top 10 among lineup but she always demands 100/30 with cover, and 150/30 with ZK and BBBJ.
And now, 100/30 and 200/60 are universal flat rate in Sharks except Cami might accept 80/30 150/60, however Cami starts to hike prices to 100/30 for new customers since November because she is very hot and popular now.
Kitty still provides 100/30 with covered BJ,150/30 with light BBBJ, or 200/30 full service. Chloe also quoted me 150/30 with BBBJ..[/QUOTE]Thanks for info, I updated my list in case it helps new user like me.
Beauty is indeed subjective. I didn't find Sirin or Cami "very pretty". They have a girl-next-door look, but I agree that they don't have a "Kim Kardashian" look which I hate.
Top quality* (*at least by some people).
Roxy (couch under aquarium).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Above-Average Girls.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Sirin (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (back of the bar, under TV display).
Kitty (near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
Average or below.
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2866299]Seem girls ask you more expensive than they ask others, .[/QUOTE]Sir You mean that girls charge more from premium customers but charge less to cheaper Charlies? Some girls said they would give discount to local retirees because seniors people demanded less from sex. Are you old enough?
These days, (October-November 2023) , Chloe, Alina, Kitty, Kim, Anna, Bibi, Brenda, Sophie (De), Kateya, Maxima (FR), Ariana (Spain), Stacy, Celine, Sophie de, etc all quote 100/30 or 200/60 to customers. Some girls hiked price from 150/60 to 200/60 since September.
It is meaningless to refer old time 2021 2022 rate. You might not visit Sharks for some time.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2866341]Thanks for info, I updated my list in case it helps new user like me.
Beauty is indeed subjective. I didn't find Sirin or Cami "very pretty". They have a girl-next-door look, but I agree that they don't have a "Kim Kardashian" look which I hate.
Top quality* (*at least by some people).
Roxy (couch under aquarium).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Above-Average Girls.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Sirin (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (back of the bar, under TV display).
Kitty (near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
Average or below.
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).[/QUOTE]Bibi now Samira? Is pretty but low level in bed. I had to work so hard to try to get a bit with her on her first tour, so we stayed about 70 mn, she wanted 200 , I gave her 150 telling her it was well paid for her level. Only for her look. Same for Teodora. I don t think many Caucasians would rank Katalea as a top performer, if You compare with Sena or Sofi. De, Katalea really can t compete in bed, tall but limited vagina. Romanians must really be asian size. Kity is higher potential for vagina. When You know a bit other than Sharks, when I pay less than 150/60 in NRW or at Wellcum for more elegant woman types really french kissing and BBBJ, DATY, and You know escorts, then You know none at Sharks worth 200/60 for look, image and potential for sex.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2866331]I would appreciate it if you tell us your "best" who is not on this list (with location). You are like an encyclopedia.
Does anyone know the Bulgarian girl's name (blue eye, nice smile, not petite, large breast), who sits on the couch at the left side of the dance pole? (or far right side from entrance).
Some people ask "Why do you want to know name"?
If you know the name, you can search on this forum and find her reputation.
Also, you can ask people if she is currently working or on vacation.[/QUOTE]On my ranking, high level Sharks girls are Sena, Tara, Sofi. De, Maria. Ukr, probably Kendra for sweet GFE but not my type. I think Alina and Sabrina should also be far above little Romanians with small pussy not able to fuck with bigger than a Romanian pimp size. I regret not to find since a while a elegant with charm Romanian woman type when I know this level don t speak about money, no upselling, they prefer to make me a weekly regular. I got many, I miss, when Sharks is more to find a German for me now. I love Romanian elegant woman types, I m not into Bulgarians for sex for my previous experiences, not sensual enough compare to Romanians. Good point is new rate attract few Germans from escorting and these profiles are more GFE than before for my pleasure. Got 3 high level Germans since 2022 at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866379]Sir You mean that girls charge more from premium customers but charge less to cheaper Charlies? Some girls said they would give discount to local retirees because seniors people demanded less from sex. Are you old enough?
These days, (October-November 2023) , Chloe, Alina, Kitty, Kim, Anna, Bibi, Brenda, Sophie (De), Kateya, Maxima (FR), Ariana (Spain), Stacy, Celine, Sophie de, etc all quote 100/30 or 200/60 to customers. Some girls hiked price from 150/60 to 200/60 since September.
It is meaningless to refer old time 2021 2022 rate. You might not visit Sharks for some time.[/QUOTE]True: Some of them might always quote 200/60 min to everybody. Sophie e. G. Is one of them AFAIK.
But also true: At least with two out of the girls you name above I still go for 150/60. Last time last week. And of course without limitation in services.
Conclusion: For many girls, the price they charge does indeed depend on the customer. Being a tourist passing by every now and then often ends up in 200/60 -or even more. But it's simply not true that this is the new general pricing for the good girls at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866379]Sir You mean that girls charge more from premium customers but charge less to cheaper Charlies? Some girls said they would give discount to local retirees because seniors people demanded less from sex. Are you old enough?
These days, (October-November 2023) , Chloe, Alina, Kitty, Kim, Anna, Bibi, Brenda, Sophie (De), Kateya, Maxima (FR), Ariana (Spain), Stacy, Celine, Sophie de, etc all quote 100/30 or 200/60 to customers. Some girls hiked price from 150/60 to 200/60 since September.
It is meaningless to refer old time 2021 2022 rate. You might not visit Sharks for some time.[/QUOTE]Since June, Sharks is not a first choice for me for quality in FKK land, when I don't know why I would pay more expensive for lower quality for girls, when I have to warm up Venus 8 to clean german autobahns. On next week, I will get with race engine air admission for more powerful and fast. I m pretty sure Alina would not ask me 200/60 since she ask me and many on your list are really not among the best at Sharks, when higher levels are for 150/60 , but you like so much to pay more expensive, when I don't pay for average. When Katalea started on 9 July 2021 , having twice 1 hour on both next week ends, but after only 3 weeks, I was too big, too hard and fucking too much for her vagina. Not anymore quality for me.
When Sharks staff made many improvements since 2014 , with desk who is much more friendly, compare to so bad rooms at famous Globe in rich ZH, but when staff told girls they made problems to club business, management is really not helped by their girls who are crazy when they should look in mirror, when most on your list are so average for sex. Just pity for Sharks, when less upselling now at Oase.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2866432]On my ranking, high level Sharks girls are Sena, Tara, Sofi. De, Maria. Ukr, probably Kendra for sweet GFE but not my type. I think Alina and Sabrina should also be far above little Romanians with small pussy not able to fuck with bigger than a Romanian pimp size. I regret not to find since a while a elegant with charm Romanian woman type when I know this level don t speak about money, no upselling, they prefer to make me a weekly regular. I got many, I miss, when Sharks is more to find a German for me now. I love Romanian elegant woman types, I m not into Bulgarians for sex for my previous experiences, not sensual enough compare to Romanians. Good point is new rate attract few Germans from escorting and these profiles are more GFE than before for my pleasure. Got 3 high level Germans since 2022 at Sharks.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much Siri. I added more. - I didn't know that Alina / Sabrina are still working (from World, right?) I thought they retired.
- Although some claim Maria is a "real" Ukranian, I am not sure. Ukranian is the third-largest minority group in Romania. She maybe grew up in Romania?
- I want to find this Sofi / Sophie. Where is she located?
The reason why the location is important is that, the popular girls are in room with customer most of the time, and they sit for a few minutes and next customer grab them. Unless you know where to look, it's extremely difficult to catch them.
Top quality Girls (at least by some people).
Roxy (couch under Fish tank).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina / Sena (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (RO, between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Camilla ((near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Sirin (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Kitty (RO, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Maria (Ukrainian?, left side of stairs to jacuzzi).
Sofi or Sophie (DE, unknown location).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
Average and below.
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2866509]
Conclusion: For many girls, the price they charge does indeed depend on the customer. Being a tourist passing by every now and then often ends up in 200/60 -or even more.[/QUOTE]Quite a few girls acquire a habit that they initially agree 100/30 to get business then inside room they assert that BBBJ or FK is extra 50 euro. Kitty or Shirin always do that. So this is one of reasons why Asian tourists sometimes pay 150/30 to Kitty or some Asians hunters without extra service. And 30 min sessions usually are shortened to 20 min if they didn't pay attention time.
Top optic girls quote 200/60 is NOT a big issue to me only if the service includes BBBJ / kiss and they are honest to keep time track. Otherwise I would reject them.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2866509]True: Some of them might always quote 200/60 min to everybody. Sophie e. G. Is one of them AFAIK.
But also true: At least with two out of the girls you name above I still go for 150/60. Last time last week. And of course without limitation in services.
Conclusion: For many girls, the price they charge does indeed depend on the customer. Being a tourist passing by every now and then often ends up in 200/60 -or even more. But it's simply not true that this is the new general pricing for the good girls at Sharks.[/QUOTE]European Caucasian who knows a bit how to do with women will be charged less than Asians or US. Alina, Sabrina, Sena and others ask me so often for room, but I pay only to dream and since wow German in June, even I was really happy to repeat with my best Sharks 2021 girl for 150/80 for a high GFE with much more than fkissing, but I don t see to dream at Sharks among quantity, but very average quality for me. Most expensive don t mean highest quality at Sharks and higher level for less expensive elsewhere, when I get a real Russian for 150/60 fucking her so sporty making her electric, I don t know who could resist at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2866612]Thanks very much Siri. I added more. - I didn't know that Alina / Sabrina are still working (from World, right?) I thought they retired.
- Although some claim Maria is a "real" Ukranian, I am not sure. Ukranian is the third-largest minority group in Romania. She maybe grew up in Romania?
- I want to find this Sofi / Sophie. Where is she located?
The reason why the location is important is that, the popular girls are in room with customer most of the time, and they sit for a few minutes and next customer grab them. Unless you know where to look, it's extremely difficult to catch them.
Top quality Girls (at least by some people).
Roxy (couch under Fish tank).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina / Sena (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (RO, between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Camilla ((near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Sirin (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Kitty (RO, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Maria (Ukrainian?, left side of stairs to jacuzzi).
Sofi or Sophie (DE, unknown location).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
Average and below.
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).[/QUOTE]Beautiful Nadia Oase is not, but Rita and Maria are Ukrainian, not at all same in bed than Romanians. At Sharks, You can see Kloe with only rare business and Katalea at the bar when making mostly 100 for fast 30 mn, when most Caucasians would not pay 200 for her level. Girls ask expensive, too expensive for their real value, but many warm their ass sitting for hours. Even Sofi who is higher level than most on your list, needs to hunt for business. Too expensive make less clients, management told girls, but they are not smart enough to understand, when I m pretty sure most make less money, asking too expensive, than when they worked for 100/60 . And they complain about slow business, when they are the main reason.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866639]Top optic girls quote 200/60 is NOT a big issue to me only if the service includes BBBJ / kiss and they are honest to keep time track. Otherwise I would reject them.[/QUOTE]As long as the price (and the fact that the same girls might do the same for less money with others) is ok for you: It's all good. Nothing to discuss about.
I just wanted to make people aware that 200/60 is definitely not the regular price for the girls if you are a returning guest.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2866803]the price and the fact that the same girls might do the same for less money with others.[/QUOTE]It's just what you said, it's not worthy of belief.
Catelea might charge more from other customers for same services she provided me. And I don't believe you could get 150/100 from her.
Neither Chloe, Sophie, Kitty, Bibi, Jana, Ariana, Kathleen, Stacy, Vanessa, or other top girls would accept 150/60 from any customer recently. It is meaningless to compare one year ago rate when someone (ie Siri) paid 150/60 or less for these girls.
Alina accepted 150/30 for return customers I knew that. She also offered that price to me.
Roxy, Amy, Sibal, Mira, Mila, Mina, Cami, Shirin, Lola, Florina, etc, might agree 150/30 for customers if they are familiar with. I paid 200 to some of them because I want to compensate some couch time. I don't take advantage from girls.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2866803]As long as the price (and the fact that the same girls might do the same for less money with others) is ok for you: It's all good. Nothing to discuss about.
I just wanted to make people aware that 200/60 is definitely not the regular price for the girls if you are a returning guest.[/QUOTE]Even when foreigner and not weekly regular at the moment, I confirm many of the best are for 150/ very full 60 mn and higher GFE potential than the most expensive. New rule at Sharks seem to become the lowest level the most expensive, making management losing business with less entry, when many past regulars don't visit anymore, but go elsewhere with less upselling.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866639]Quite a few girls acquire a habit that they initially agree 100/30 to get business then inside room they assert that BBBJ or FK is extra 50 euro. Kitty or Shirin always do that. So this is one of reasons why Asian tourists sometimes pay 150/30 to Kitty or some Asians hunters without extra service. And 30 min sessions usually are shortened to 20 min if they didn't pay attention time.
Top optic girls quote 200/60 is NOT a big issue to me only if the service includes BBBJ / kiss and they are honest to keep time track. Otherwise I would reject them.[/QUOTE]I was used to pay 250/60 for years with Russian escorts in Paris, same than 200/60 + entry 65 , but I don't see any at Sharks worthing this, compare to my past Russian escorts, or German escorts I pay less expensive. I refuse to pay more expensive for lower quality, reason why I don't go anymore to Globe. I know best Sharks girls are not for 200/60 , except Sofi I never repeated because of this. Got 150/80 and 200/80 on this year at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866639]Quite a few girls acquire a habit that they initially agree 100/30 to get business then inside room they assert that BBBJ or FK is extra 50 euro. Kitty or Shirin always do that. So this is one of reasons why Asian tourists sometimes pay 150/30 to Kitty or some Asians hunters without extra service. And 30 min sessions usually are shortened to 20 min if they didn't pay attention time.......[/QUOTE]You guys are successful in keeping Turgid away from FKKs with this talk of 150/30 and 150/20 even though I'm not Asian. No way I want to agree to 100/30 and then the girl tells me in the room that BBBJ is EUR50 extra.
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New faces
First day of trip. Returned to Sharks having been away nearly 12 months. Arrived 7 pm. Lots of new faces and only a smattering of old faces.
Overall the line up was much improved from 12 months ago IMHO. Significant amount of very slim young girls. One in particular caught my eye. Incredibly long natural (not extensions) hair and perhaps a tiny bit too slim. But pretty face. But spoke to her and she had a bad attitude. Didn't even ask her name. Though a lot of guys spoke to her I didn't see her go upstairs once though she could have been up there when I was!
First session with Tamara. One of the few girls I had been with previously though she was then blonde. Recognised me and after short chat up we went. Room was horribly too hot. Almost caused me to abandon the session after 20 minutes. 200/60 - she was not interested in less and indeed I didn't speak to a single girl all night who quoted less, but then if a girl has a fat ass I am not interested so my guess is that my choices are probably popular girls who can stick at 200/60. Good service, good fun, excellent BBBJ. Good body. Bolt ONS but well done and nice clean, fresh smelling pussy. WIR. Yes.
Relaxed, had food. Not as good as previously. Club got busy after 9 pm. Lot of guys with some waiting for rooms.
Second round with Camilla. Pretty girl, good body, not blown away by service (well technically I was!) and only did 100/30.
Professional massage. Always like to do this with Pia (Thai) but a small cute blonde was also doing massage. She clearly could speak the language of a lot of the girls and spent some time on the couches. Approached her for massage but she was booked solid. After massage saved best for last. Anya (long blonde curly hair. Thin, natural boobs. After initial attempts to upsell all sorts of extras, which I admonished, she calmed, didn't get frosty and provided great service.
Knew I would struggle to go again so drink and left at 1 pm and guys were pouring into the lockers.
The club is in full swing again. Lots of options. Pricing seems fairly fixed at 200/60. I don't tend to usually do 30 min sessions but asked many girls for prices and the rumours of more than 100 seem odd to me. Probably spoke to 15-20 girls and not one of them quoted more than 100 for 30. But then none of them offered 60 for any less than 200.
Party there Friday and Saturday. Might return Saturday. But Oase bound tomorrow.
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Sharks Pricing
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2866890]The club is in full swing again. Lots of options. Pricing seems fairly fixed at 200/60. I don't tend to usually do 30 min sessions but asked many girls for prices and the rumours of more than 100 seem odd to me. Probably spoke to 15-20 girls and not one of them quoted more than 100 for 30. But then none of them offered 60 for any less than 200.[/QUOTE]OK, but what did 200/60 get you? I wouldn't have a problem with that if it included BBBJ / CIM. That said, if I don't CIM, then I don't want to pay for that. I'd want 150/60, which seems more than fair to me. And if she's doing anal and I want it, then I would pay an extra 100 for that too. In your view, how reasonable are my expectations here? I mean, I think it would be totally BS to pay 200/60 and not get BBBJ / CIM for that. These greedy tutes can just step off then!
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]And I don't believe you could get 150/100 from her.
[/QUOTE]Should be 150/60 here.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]Alina accepted 150/30 for return customers I knew that. She also offered that price to me.
Roxy, Amy, Sibal, Mira, Mila, Mina, Cami, Shirin, Lola, Florina, etc, might agree 150/30 for customers if they are familiar with. I paid 200 to some of them because I want to compensate some couch time. I don't take advantage from girls.[/QUOTE]Should be 150/60 here too.
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List of girls with 150/60
Now 100/30 is a universal flat rate.
Hi gentlemen, could we compile a list of girls who still accept 150/60?
Until last week, I know below girls still accepted 150/60.
Lola.
Cami.
Amy.
Mira.
Jennifer.
Shirin?
Lina.
Alina.
Please add more.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2866905]OK, but what did 200/60 get you? I wouldn't have a problem with that if it included BBBJ / CIM. That said, if I don't CIM, then I don't want to pay for that. I'd want 150/60, which seems more than fair to me. And if she's doing anal and I want it, then I would pay an extra 100 for that too. In your view, how reasonable are my expectations here? I mean, I think it would be totally BS to pay 200/60 and not get BBBJ / CIM for that. These greedy tutes can just step off then![/QUOTE]200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered). I'm not a CIM fan but it would be 50 extra. They try to upsell a lot. One of the girls asked if I wanted prostate massage with a vibrator. For 50 e! WTF? I have to pay for it (to go up my own ass! Erm. No thanks!
I'll see what pricing is like in Palace and Oase but this goes back to our previous discussion (in Artemis thread).
I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before! And bear in mind that I had several of the faces I did recognise come and greet me with hugs. Including one from one of the barmaids and Pia (masseuse). So it should have been fairly obvious to anyone watching that I was not a newbie tourist.
I'm afraid the girls have realised that pushing the prices from 150/60 up to 200/60 did not deter punters from coming (the club was rammed after midnight). A lot of the girls are chancing their arms and pushing for more / upselling other services to get up to 250 or higher.
At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany. Flights to Dubai are not that much more for me (from UK) and they operate ST / LT instead of pay by the hour.
Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore. No more expensive than say Madrid / Malaga (where 200 or even 250 (Scandalos and Vive) is normal for an hour). We have to accept that as the cost of living increases for all, that applies to the girls as well. But I certainly felt they were pushing it last night.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]It's just what you said, it's not worthy of belief.
Catelea might charge more from other customers for same services she provided me. And I don't believe you could get 150/100 from her.
Neither Chloe, Sophie, Kitty, Bibi, Jana, Ariana, Kathleen, Stacy, Vanessa, or other top girls would accept 150/60 from any customer recently. It is meaningless to compare one year ago rate when someone (ie Siri) paid 150/60 or less for these girls.
Alina accepted 150/30 for return customers I knew that. She also offered that price to me.
Roxy, Amy, Sibal, Mira, Mila, Mina, Cami, Shirin, Lola, Florina, etc, might agree 150/30 for customers if they are familiar with. I paid 200 to some of them because I want to compensate some couch time. I don't take advantage from girls.[/QUOTE]Most of those You call top girls and You want to pay more expensive for them, are not at all top level and I would not pay anything for most of them, not pretty enough or not the potential for normal european sex. At Sharks or elsewhere, we experience from what we are. I would pay 200/60 only for a wow elegant look and for real fresh true GFE. Why would I pay 200/60 , when I got so often Katalea for 150/60 when she was fresh not needing heavy make up and I remember funny pointing hard nipples and chicken skin on her more round ass at this time. Did You experience for 200 or even 400 ?
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866843]It's just what you said, it's not worthy of belief. [/QUOTE]As I won't record the chat or film the money hand-over at the locker, it's up to you to believe me or not.
You quoted several times that you are good with paying 200/60. So just keep going. And if you need it for your inner peace: keep on believing everyone has to.
At The Cane: Yes, CIM always is an extra for 50€ more.
At PayForIt: Reading here and at other boards how easy it was for the girls to establish 100/30 and 150/60 after Corona and now already trying to push it to 200/60 (obviously also paid with a smile by far too many men) I agree that the girls won't stop trying to raise their pricing further.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered). I'm not a CIM fan but it would be 50 extra. They try to upsell a lot. One of the girls asked if I wanted prostate massage with a vibrator. For 50 e! WTF? I have to pay for it (to go up my own ass! Erm. No thanks!
I'll see what pricing is like in Palace and Oase but this goes back to our previous discussion (in Artemis thread).
I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before! And bear in mind that I had several of the faces I did recognise come and greet me with hugs. Including one from one of the barmaids and Pia (masseuse). So it should have been fairly obvious to anyone watching that I was not a newbie tourist.
I'm afraid the girls have realised that pushing the prices from 150/60 up to 200/60 did not deter punters from coming (the club was rammed after midnight). A lot of the girls are chancing their arms and pushing for more / upselling other services to get up to 250 or higher.
At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany. Flights to Dubai are not that much more for me (from UK) and they operate ST / LT instead of pay by the hour.
Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore. No more expensive than say Madrid / Malaga (where 200 or even 250 (Scandalos and Vive) is normal for an hour). We have to accept that as the cost of living increases for all, that applies to the girls as well. But I certainly felt they were pushing it last night.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Which day of the week did you visit?
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[QUOTE=Austin28;2867056]Thanks for the great report. Which day of the week did you visit?[/QUOTE]Just last night. Wednesday.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2867012]Most of those You call top girls when I got so often Katalea for 150/60 when she was fresh not needing heavy make up and I remember funny pointing hard nipples and chicken skin on her more round ass at this time.[/QUOTE]From your posts I think you might not visit Sharks for very long time. You're still living in the fantasy of the past. Old time rate 50/30 100/60 have been out of date for years. Top girls (Denise / Kitty, Anastasia / Katherine, or Melissa) charged 150/60 in 2019 even before pandemic / covid. Catelea hiked prices from 150/60 to 200/60 since 2022. During first two weeks when Kitty / Denise came back last September (2022), she charged 150/60. However Kitty immediately raised prices to 200/60 or more.
For the first half of this year 2023, majority girls still quoted 150/60, but now in October-November, almost All the girls hiked their prices simultaneously to 200/60.
You should blame inflation, not girls.
I understand cheap Charlies, including myself, feel more or less frustrated about price hike. But I go to clubs for fun, I don't intend to argue with girls to ruin my mood. So I accept what I could NOT change, and Enjoying my time with top girls.
If you feel too expensive, then stop visiting club or stop taking girls, as Siri currently does, find cheaper alternatives.
I believe some below average level MILFs or tan old-fat ladies in Sharks could still accept lower prices.
Lola starts to tryout to quote 200/60 since November. Cami might follow. No long ago Cami quote 130/60 but no more. They both were very busy and always fully booked (7-8 sessions each day as I observed).
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]..........I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" ........[/QUOTE]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.
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One and done!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2867150]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's gotten totally out of control, and I'm definitely not paying that. I think I want to do one more trip to FKK Land, and that's going to be it. There was a time when Brazil and Germany were about on par in terms of overall cost for me. But now, Brazil and its pricing structure works much better for a guy like me, especially with my desire for anal. Germany is just simply becoming too expensive (and I already ditched Spain which offered even less value). I like Brazil better as a mongering destination anyway, and it's an overall better deal for me. Germany is pricing out business from "holiday mongers" such as myself who must also factor in the cost of airfare and lodging expenses. Keep raising prices like this and the FKK model will become unaffordable to too many mongers and ultimately fail. The law of supply and demand is still applicable here. Go ahead and price yourselves right out of business then you greedy tutes! Then what? Go back to Romania (or wherever you're from).
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]At one time I was a real regular at FKKs. And I love the experience so won't abandon it completely. But the days when it was great value for money compared to other mongering options (Spain / Dubai / Thailand) have gone. Of course it couldn't ever compete with Thailand but then the cost of getting there is prohibitive and I know you don't like the Asian ladies as I do! But Dubai is a far better place to be than Frankfurt. The weather, activities, shopping, beach etc. And the diversity of the cultures available and pricing makes it hands down better than Germany.
Still love being surrounded by so many naked beauties so will always want some trips to FKKs. But its not a cheap option anymore.[/QUOTE]I've been to Dubai, German FKKs, and Thailand many times. They all have their pros and cons. As someone put it, Frankfurt is a place for a quick stop to have some fun. Dubai and Thailand are actual vacation destinations you can spend several weeks in. Theres's hundreds of things you can do with a WG in Dubai and Thailand, not so much in Frankfurt outside an FKK. And as you stated, nothing can beat Dubai for diversity, its the united nations of WGs.
However, nothing beats the monger set-up and convenience of a German FKK. You walk into 1 location, everyone is already naked, and you pick which one to have fun with.
No traveling to hotel lobbies, no going to dark loud night clubs, no taxis back and forth, no dress code to worry about, no escorts needing to be signed into reception to come into your hotel, no negotiating with mamasans, no renting a car, no walking in non air conditioned heat, etc.
I still need to check out Colombia and Brazil, as I heard Sao Paulo has a top brothel (Scandallo). But, in my opinion, I can say for certain that a German FKK can still compete with other top monger destination because of pure convenience. As far as cheap options well Sosua in the Dominican Republic is cheap with endless women, but youre still going to be bored as its a small beachtown with nothing else to do. Modern mongering really isnt cheap any more.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2865229]The corner couch is the center of club but facing bar. Vanness, Mara and Juliana sit together. They are pretty.
Next to them are Kitty's clique (4 girls), which are ugly (except Kitty) moody and have bad manners (including Kitty) all the time.
Kitty's clique includes Kitty, Malvania, Tamara, and 4th girl, some of them belong to ex-Betty's clique. Try to avoid them to save you money and mood.
Under aquarium couch now occupied by Adriana, Lorena, Teodora, etc. They are ok and deserve to try 100/30. Roxy's group share couch with them.[/QUOTE]If you are a regular customer you can pay 75 for 30 minutes with these girls. If it's your first time you pay 100 for 30 minutes.
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Convenience
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2867170]However, nothing beats the monger set-up and convenience of a German FKK. You walk into 1 location, everyone is already naked, and you pick which one to have fun with. I still need to check out Colombia and Brazil, as I heard Sao Paulo has a top brothel (Scandallo). But, in my opinion, I can say for certain that a German FKK can still compete with other top other monger destination because of pure convenience.[/QUOTE]Although not as big and luxurious as the best FKKs in Germany, the Brazilian termas in Rio de Janeiro match the FKKs for offering convenience as it's a very similar setup. I love them both for what they offer, but Germany is getting too expensive for me, reducing the overall value of mongering there. I'm always picky with who I go with, but that's going to be even more so now during my next trip to Germany.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2867150]I will not take you up on that wager because I believe I will lose. If Sharks is crowded with men and they are happily paying 200/60 the girls will fancy their chances and will come together for 150/30 and 250/60 or as much as the men will continue to pay them.[/QUOTE]Most girls wait for business for hours. I'm pretty sure most make less money than past good girls who worked for 100/60 . Most of my weekly regulars told me they wanted to make 1000 when I paid 100/60 , I wonder how many at Sharks make 5000 on the week.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866965]Now 100/30 is a universal flat rate.
Hi gentlemen, could we compile a list of girls who still accept 150/60?
Until last week, I know below girls still accepted 150/60.
Lola.
Cami.
Amy.
Mira.
Jennifer.
Shirin?
Lina.
Alina.
Please add more.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure Sabrina, Sena, Tara, Roxi, Kamila, Kendra, Melissa and her couch, Adriana and her couch, Madalina. I remember a German from Munchen escorting: for you, 150/60 is Ok, on 2023 .
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2867170]I've been to Dubai, German FKKs, and Thailand many times. They all have their pros and cons. As someone put it, Frankfurt is a place for a quick stop to have some fun. Dubai and Thailand are actual vacation destinations you can spend several weeks in. Theres's hundreds of things you can do with a WG in Dubai and Thailand, not so much in Frankfurt outside an FKK. And as you stated, nothing can beat Dubai for diversity, its the united nations of WGs.
However, nothing beats the monger set-up and convenience of a German FKK. You walk into 1 location, everyone is already naked, and you pick which one to have fun with.
No traveling to hotel lobbies, no going to dark loud night clubs, no taxis back and forth, no dress code to worry about, no escorts needing to be signed into reception to come into your hotel, no negotiating with mamasans, no renting a car, no walking in non air conditioned heat, etc.
I still need to check out Colombia and Brazil, as I heard Sao Paulo has a top brothel (Scandallo). But, in my opinion, I can say for certain that a German FKK can still compete with other top monger destination because of pure convenience. As far as cheap options well Sosua in the Dominican Republic is cheap with endless women, but youre still going to be bored as its a small beachtown with nothing else to do. Modern mongering really isnt cheap any more.[/QUOTE]All fair comment. I never made it to Sousa because I liked Punta Cana too much -$50 for a trick was very easy and had several parties there!
You are not wrong about the "on site" one stop shop of FKKs. Nothing quite beats a room or club full of naked women. But I do quite like the selection process in other destinations and of course in Spain and nearly all Gentlemans Clubs in Pattaya, the bedroom is as close to the bar as in an FKK. Your ref to mamasans tells me you are an agogo fan. I was but GC's are ideal for me now. And at 1000 thb an hour plus 500 for the room (equivalent about 25 euros per per girl. For short time. Maybe 2 hours (I have a LOT of fun there. But there's also the cost of getting there. Albeit accommodation is very cheap too. The reception check in thing in Dubai is a pain but for your own security.
Sharks pricing was crazy but I managed to avoid it a little tonight in Oase (see thread).
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Sharks Sunday 5 November
I'm more of an evening person and knew I'the only be able to manage two shots so I didn't get to Sharks until around 8 pm having got another delayed train to Darmstadt from Frankfurt HBF.
Entry was E65. Numbers were good and at least 60 girls so not that different to the previous Saturday and quality also good.
I had a chat with Brenda / Brandy who is gorgeous and has that rare quality of being slim and naturally stacked. I actually first went with her in 2016 when she presumably first started and had a wonderful one hour session with owo, FK and do culminating in me shagging her. All for 100. The next time I went she wanted extra E50 for FK and ro so only had a E50/30 min session. I was tempted to go with her for her looks again. I think I will if she's there next time.
Chatted to a real blonde cutie called Amy with petite natural body who is 23 and looks younger. I did try to get her in for a threesome the week earlier with an old regular but she wanted E200 and thought that would upset the equilibrium as my regular was charging E150. She seemed sweet but does not FK or provide RO. Nevertheless I earmarked her for my second session as I was taken by her looks but by that time she had disappeared.
Another girl I tried to entice into that threesome was a brown curly haired girl with a smooth body with well done silicons and a tanned complexion. Again that fell through as she wanted E200. I was keen on seeing her individually or where both girls were charging E200 and despite her doing the rounds to entice a customer, she didn't so much as exchange eye contact with me so didn't bother me. It may be that she viewed me as a cheap Charlie!
Another strange one was a girl called Ayla who claimed to be Spanish. Striking blonde girl, tall, rubenesque figure with big tits, pale skin and attractive face. I was having a pleasant chat with her and was about ready to talk specifics about services and price and take her to the room when she excused herself and started doing the rounds looking for customers. She had E200 sat right in front of her!
Saw 3 "exes" from previous visits including one I had at Oase many years ago (nothing remarkable) and Jessica and Luisa who formed half of a four girl orgy I had in 2014 which remains one of my happiest memories. Unfortunately they were the weaker half in terms of looks. One of the other girls was my 3rd all time favourite FKK girls, namely Ramona (the Scarlett Johansson lookalike only younger, prettier and with a better body) and a brunette who was almost as attractive. Watching them oil each other up whilst the two other girls were giving me a double headed blow job will remain an abiding memory. Ramona has long retired but was told that Roxanna who was also a stunning blonde who gave great service and a part of the same crew is now plying her trade in theüsseldorf.
Katja and Sydney: I eventually settled on a slim and very pretty blonde with long hair calling herself Sydney Nice natural body, perky tits, smooth body, early 20's, she was definitely a babe. Facially she was attractive though had more angular features whereas I normally prefer rounder features. She reminded me of a Romanian origin girl I interviewed for a job position recently. I really wanted to hire her but despite me asking her easy questions, she foundered.
Sydney claimed to be Macedonian which I doubt but I'll take as it's a new flag for me! She was agreeable to owo, RO but said she doesn't kiss. Was also happy with 150/60 though I said I'the start with 30 minutes and if I was happy would extend.
I always like to have at least one threesome a day when at a FKK and I chose Katja who I had in a threesome the previous week which was a sensational session. I figured having one tried and tested girl would increase the chances of It being a hit.
Katja is a petite blonde. Around 30, natural body thought shows signs of childbirth and breast feeding and facially attractive.
I'm afraid the session fell well short of expectations. Both gave barely decent blowjobs but Katja was a particular let down as in my previous session with her, she was deep throating, licking my cock and feasting on my balls whereas here she was fairly lacklustre. She was a passionate kisser but her mouth was reeking of tobacco and she was coughing and sneezing a bit as well so obviously had a cold.
I pulled Sydney in a position where I could her out thinking if I had her sat on my face, I could finish with Katja blowing me but she was seemingly reluctant so finished whilst playing with Katja's body whilst Sydney blew and tossed me off. Finished within 30 minutes whereas at the start I was hoping it would be good and I'the extend to an hour. Overall a poor session and cost me E200.
L'Oreal: I had a massage from the Thai lady called Pia which was good and better than the one I had from the cute blonde masseuse though it cost E70 whereas the blonde charged E60.
The number of girls begins to decline sharply after 1 am. Was scouting for potentials when I came across a very pretty and petite girl with brown hair. She is 21 years old, from Bulgaria and a real cutie. Calls herself L'Oreal and I saw that as a good omen as I've now had 3 girls calling themselves L'Oreal and they've all been worth it!
She asked me my age and was perturbed I may have a daughter her age! I don't but thought it would be fun to have some teacher / student roleplay. She said she was in fact a student but I imagine she got knocked up by some loser (some signs on her body of childbirth) and is now doing tricks in Germany. Agreed on E100 for 30 minutes and only thing I specified was OWO.
Anyway, it was an excellent session, lots of French kissing, tender foreplay and I spent an age feasting on her body. I initially had it down as a 30 min session with her trying to get me off but as it was so good I asked to extend. I hadn't asked her price for an hour but she said E150. Had an amazing time and finished with a blowie. Spent an age in post coital bliss taking me right to 60 minutes.
When paying her I also gave her a bottle of durex play which I hadn't opened. For some reason it made her really happy and she started full on snogging me as a thank you. Sometimes it's the small gestures. I hope she won't turn too cynical too soon, but she had a real air of fresh faced innocence. It was great to finish on a high and I melted into the night a contended man. Cost E150.
Cab back to Frankfurt HBF cost E74 but at that time I couldn't get an Uber. Whilst I was waiting L'Oreal was also leaving and she gave me another passionate kiss as a goodbye. I do hope I ll get the chance to see her again.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2867173]If you are a regular customer you can pay 75 for 30 minutes with these girls. If it's your first time you pay 100 for 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]I doubt, even German and regular, You will pay 75 for 30 mn for Kity or Katalea or Maxima, when I read lustscout and was told by some German girls how some Germans paid so expensive = thousands for them, when they don t want they go with other guys. Some Germans also paying 250/60 for Elektra. But many girls are possible for 150/60 , even without market grocery, and the most expensive are not the best quality at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2867119]From your posts I think you might not visit Sharks for very long time. You're still living in the fantasy of the past. Old time rate 50/30 100/60 have been out of date for years. Top girls (Denise / Kitty, Anastasia / Katherine, or Melissa) charged 150/60 in 2019 even before pandemic / covid. Catelea hiked prices from 150/60 to 200/60 since 2022. During first two weeks when Kitty / Denise came back last September (2022), she charged 150/60. However Kitty immediately raised prices to 200/60 or more.
For the first half of this year 2023, majority girls still quoted 150/60, but now in October-November, almost All the girls hiked their prices simultaneously to 200/60.
You should blame inflation, not girls.
I understand cheap Charlies, including myself, feel more or less frustrated about price hike. But I go to clubs for fun, I don't intend to argue with girls to ruin my mood. So I accept what I could NOT change, and Enjoying my time with top girls.
If you feel too expensive, then stop visiting club or stop taking girls, as Siri currently does, find cheaper alternatives.
I believe some below average level MILFs or tan old-fat ladies in Sharks could still accept lower prices.
Lola starts to tryout to quote 200/60 since November. Cami might follow. No long ago Cami quote 130/60 but no more. They both were very busy and always fully booked (7-8 sessions each day as I observed).[/QUOTE]Since July, when I visit Sharks, my eyes don t see many attractive, meaning I often left full balls, going elsewhere. I saw more attractive at Oase on last Friday, even less girls. I would pay 200/60 or 90 , only for a girl making me dream, but no dreamed wow look since a while, since German escort snow white. I know Katalea increased to 200/60 , probably reason she has mostly 30 mn business and sit at the bar. From my experience with Maxima, she really doesn t worth 200 . I may be too picky and demanding as say girls, when I hate to waste my money for only average, when I only enjoy excellence.
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Planing to visit sometime soon.
I have been visiting Darmstadt and planning a visit soon. A quick question about wearables. Last time I saw some folks wore Apple watches and is that allowed to wear? Just checking.
Cheers,
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[QUOTE=KennyWu;2867379]I have been visiting Darmstadt and planning a visit soon. A quick question about wearables. Last time I saw some folks wore Apple watches and is that allowed to wear? Just checking.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]Yes no problem and lots of guys (and girls) wear them, Samsung watches and Fitbits.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2866432]On my ranking, high level Sharks girls are Sena, Tara, Sofi. De, Maria. Ukr, probably Kendra for sweet GFE but not my type. I think Alina and Sabrina should also be far above little Romanians with small pussy...[/QUOTE]Appreciate your honesty about your top girls in Sharks.
Maria, the snow-white 20 yo Ukraine girl, we both consider as top girl, 100%.
Other girls. . .
Sophie, 30+, German girl, I put her in my list, only service wise.
Sabrina is nice but she is about 36+ yo, optic is not very attractive to me but I respect her very much. Service is decent.
Alina is about 30+, she is nice But I would rather take Lola instead.
Sena is about 30 yo German-Tu girl with [B]large tattoos [/B]on her tan skin. Porn star hard face. I never have taste on these types girls even if they might provide good service.
Tara is about early 30's German girl with silies. I heard her service might be decent but she is a little bit too senior for me.
Kendra is just GND not better than Amanda.
So I think most likely you might favor very matured women (30+) who can provide good service. Nothing wrong.
However I like optic fuck. Nothing wrong either.
So I always choose not old (18-22), non-professional, less tattooed, white-skin, non-silies, skinny and pretty girls. Even if sometimes these young chicks are naughty or disobedient, I still tolerate them and paid them as they requested 200/60.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2867548]Appreciate your honesty about your top girls in Sharks.
Maria, the snow-white 20 yo Ukraine girl, we both consider as top girl, 100%.
Other girls. . .
Sophie, 30+, German girl, I put her in my list, only service wise.
Sabrina is nice but she is about 36+ yo, optic is not very attractive to me but I respect her very much. Service is decent.
Alina is about 30+, she is nice But I would rather take Lola instead.
Sena is about 30 yo German-Tu girl with [B]large tattoos [/B]on her tan skin. Porn star hard face. I never have taste on these types girls even if they might provide good service.
Tara is about early 30's German girl with silies. I heard her service might be decent but she is a little bit too senior for me.
Kendra is just GND not better than Amanda.
So I think most likely you might favor very matured women (30+) who can provide good service. Nothing wrong.
However I like optic fuck. Nothing wrong either.
So I always choose not old (18-22), non-professional, less tattooed, white-skin, non-silies, skinny and pretty girls. Even if sometimes these young chicks are naughty or disobedient, I still tolerate them and paid them as they requested 200/60.[/QUOTE]Sena and Tara are not German, not same, but yes, I prefer women than little girls. For example, Sofi is far higher level for sex than Katalea. I never had room with Sabrina or Alina when I know them since 2014 , but they are lovely and I m pretty sure they are far higher level for 150/60 than many for 200 . Expensive don t mean quality at Sharks, when can have tornado Maria for 100 .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja]Most girls wait for business for hours. I'm pretty sure most make less money than past good girls who worked for 100/60 . Most of my weekly regulars told me they wanted to make 1000 when I paid 100/60 , I wonder how many at Sharks make 5000 on the week.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly.
I was in Sharks last Sunday, very slow business for most girls, but apparently Saturday was extremely busy with long waiting times for rooms. One girl told me that even the small fuck cabins upstairs (near the jacuzzis) were all fully occupied on Saturday evening.
Very mediocre lineup on Sunday, many stunners were missing. Zero (girls sitting on couch in front of the stripper pole, and the couches to the left of the stairs towards the jacuzzis and the couches underneath the aquarium were also quite empty.
For the tourist fanboys, Brenda was working but not very busy, stood around quite a lot, would have been very easy to book her but for me her service has become very mediocre.
One German-Turkish girl called Hyatt (big silicones, brunette, few tattoos, nice porn star curves) sat, stood and walked around most of the time, she usually sits near the entrance to the restaurant. I've been with her a few months ago but very mediocre service so I did not repeat with her.
All in all I did not have a good time, thankfully one regular saved the day so I didn't go home totally unfucked but overall it was a very mediocre visit. The new guy running the sauna is clueless about how to run a proper [B]Finnish[/B] sauna, not ventilating the sauna in between Aufguss sessions. It's way too humid for a Finnish sauna, almost like a Turkish Hammam. Hammam saunas have a much lower temperature (around 45-50 degrees) with high humidity whereas Finnish saunas are much hotter with around 80-85 degrees but have extremely low humidity. The combination of 80-85 degrees with high humidity makes the Sharks sauna intolerable. The whole key to the Aufguss is to [U]temporarily[/U] increase the humidity in a Finnish sauna, but one the 'show' is over you're supposed to leave the door open so that the humidity can escape again for the guests who just like 80-85 degrees in low humidity.
I'm happy I didn't pay thousands of Dollars to visit Sharks from US or Asia, because I would have been very disappointed: Saturday would probably have been way too busy and Sunday was totally dead. Both scenarios are not very good if you want to have fun: if it's very busy as on Saturday then you have to wait a long time for your favorite girl (or worse, if she's very popular then you're not even able to take her to a room) and additionally also you have to wait before a hot and dirty room becomes available, and if it's dead like last Sunday then you barely have any good choice at all while the rooms are empty.
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I would never accept to go in close to jacuzzi or ex kino cabins, when low quality, I don t pay for this, I'm not a rabbit, I refused with Katalea on September 2021. Good way to evaluate girls, high level won't propose this but prefer to wait for a good room, at least for me. Pity Hyat doesn't FK, when reactive for sex despite since long time in business. Also bad silicon.
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Final night
So to the last night of my mini trip - 4 nights. Totally torn between Palace and Sharks but decided on the latter in part due to the advertised party which was a joke.
No performers / dancers just a glass of bubbly on arrival.
The club was rammed.
Food was back to being decent including a nice spread in the rear dining room with the sports TVs.
First room. New girl to Sharks. Arrived 2 days ago from Magnum. Alexa - Cleopatra lookalike. Wanted champagne to drink (45 e per glass) but fabulous body.
Only did 100/30 to start but she was superb and I vowed to return.
Next up tall brunette Daniella. Very pretty. Average only for 200/60.
Accepted a threesome with Tamara (from Wednesday night) and her blonde friend (didn't catch a name). But huge wait for rooms so decided to skip much to Tamara's annoyance.
Final session. Back to the indredible Alexa. Drop dead Cleopatra and fabulous service. Avoided the upsell to 300/ hour for an extra.
She gave me her number but said she didn't like the club (too busy) and is heading home tomorrow before her return to Magnum. Great find. Popular in the pub.
Great trip. Sharks back to its former glories.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867904]So to the last night of my mini trip - 4 nights. Totally torn between Palace and Sharks but decided on the latter in part due to the advertised party which was a joke.
No performers / dancers just a glass of bubbly on arrival.
The club was rammed.
Food was back to being decent including a nice spread in the rear dining room with the sports TVs.
First room. New girl to Sharks. Arrived 2 days ago from Magnum. Alexa - Cleopatra lookalike. Wanted champagne to drink (45 e per glass) but fabulous body.
Only did 100/30 to start but she was superb and I vowed to return.
Next up tall brunette Daniella. Very pretty. Average only for 200/60.
Accepted a threesome with Tamara (from Wednesday night) and her blonde friend (didn't catch a name). But huge wait for rooms so decided to skip much to Tamara's annoyance.
Final session. Back to the indredible Alexa. Drop dead Cleopatra and fabulous service. Avoided the upsell to 300/ hour for an extra.
She gave me her number but said she didn't like the club (too busy) and is heading home tomorrow before her return to Magnum. Great find. Popular in the pub.
Great trip. Sharks back to its former glories.[/QUOTE]When Zermatt Cervinia worldcup was cancelled, made a run with mini WRC on this Saturday, didn t know for party. Ate good, crowded but poor looks, lower than at Oase on Friday 3 November and slow business for many girls. Katalea was still at work after 2 am, Sofi. De needs to hunt, fortunately few Asians for Kity or she would warm ass on couch whole day. Girls have to understand they ask too expensive for their real value, same than at Globe, bad value for money, mirrors are useful. For fans, but very different, silicon Aylice. Bu from 2015 is back. Unfortunately, I couldn t feel desire for one even I know how she is great and for 150/60 . Sharks is a good club, but bad value for casting. Now, same like Globe, second league for me, only quantity. A asian type speaking french paid 150/30 to get few kisses from Kity, asian, fucked tourist rate. Austrian silicon Aylin was working. Oase seem much better value when You go on Friday or Saturday and now with less upselling.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867904]So to the last night of my mini trip - 4 nights. Totally torn between Palace and Sharks but decided on the latter in part due to the advertised party which was a joke.
.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reports. Sounds like your experiences and impressions were very similar to mine from a week earlier only I got the impression that there weren't as many men at the clubs compared to the heyday (which I consider to be prior to the Oct 2017 owo law).
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A too crowded club on Saturday night
My First time at Sharks was a 50/50 good experience. Girls squad was huge but there were men in double amount.
Most of the girls were above the average but it looked to stay in Romania since at least 90% of them were from There.
Service also was average tough rates increased after the pandemic period.
Being an old visitor of FKK scene all around the country, I can sadly say that good old times are gone because despite the huge choice, service and look of the girl is not comparable Whit is used to be.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2867291] Saw 3 "exes" from previous visits including one I had at Oase many years ago (nothing remarkable) and Jessica and Luisa who formed half of a four girl orgy I had in 2014 which remains one of my happiest memories. Unfortunately they were the weaker half in terms of looks.[/QUOTE]Is this Moldovan / Romanian Jessica? A buxom tanned girl with glasses?
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2867599]Sena and Tara are not German, not same, but yes, I prefer women than little girls. For example, Sofi is far higher level for sex than Katalea. I never had room with Sabrina or Alina when I know them since 2014 , but they are lovely and I m pretty sure they are far higher level for 150/60 than many for 200 . Expensive don t mean quality at Sharks, when can have tornado Maria for 100 .[/QUOTE]Exactly. I agree.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2867949]When Zermatt Cervinia worldcup was cancelled, made a run with mini WRC on this Saturday, didn t know for party. Ate good, crowded but poor looks, lower than at Oase on Friday 3 November and slow business for many girls. Katalea was still at work after 2 am, Sofi. De needs to hunt, fortunately few Asians for Kity or she would warm ass on couch whole day. Girls have to understand they ask too expensive for their real value, same than at Globe, bad value for money, mirrors are useful. For fans, but very different, silicon Aylice. Bu from 2015 is back. Unfortunately, I couldn t feel desire for one even I know how she is great and for 150/60 . Sharks is a good club, but bad value for casting. Now, same like Globe, second league for me, only quantity. A asian type speaking french paid 150/30 to get few kisses from Kity, asian, fucked tourist rate. Austrian silicon Aylin was working. Oase seem much better value when You go on Friday or Saturday and now with less upselling.[/QUOTE]I think I saw you there on Saturday. Are you a very tall, bald, slim guy? Think I saw you take a very tall dark slim girl up the stairs by the jacuzzis. Apologies if not you.
I'm disappointed that I went to Oase Thursday instead of Friday which sounds much better. I don't know Katalea or Kitty. Is one of them the tiny thin girl with very long dark hair past her ass who sits on a bar stool right hand side of the bar (from entrance)? Spoke with her and liked her figure but she is a miserable type so I declined. She seemed to want to talk mainly to the Asian guys.
There were a lot of options but (a) the rooms upstairs and even a couple downstairs are just far too hot and (b) the upselling is really beginning to be annoying.
Before pricing changes FKKs were a 3 or 4 year trip for me. Not now. Whilst I still love the model of being in a bar / club full of naked women, as I've posted previously, the pricing structure has diminished my interest. For the same price I paid for 3 rooms on Saturday night I can have a 10/10 worldie spinner in Dubai for the whole night. I could probably buy one of the bars in Thailand for a little more money! Spain is now cheaper than Germany. The girls in E92 Fuengirola are 200/ hour no price for extras other than anal (most don't do that or CIM). The girls in Scandalos Malaga are 250/ hour or 400/2 hours. Geneva recently was 200/ hour. One night in Amsterdam recently - 150/ hour in a red light club. What is possible in FKKs is to find many girls who will do extras of CIM and anal. Most of the girls in Spain (not all) will not offer these services at all and indeed if they don't know you already some will refuse BBBJ. But overall, IMHO, Germany has become really quite expensive. Especially, as you say, for the quality (or lack of it) on offer. Despite all that, I know for certain I will return. But whereas historically that would be several times a year. It won't be in future. I suspect I will limit myself to one (max two) Germany trips probably in better weather to enjoy the outdoors of Oase and Sharks with the naked ladies around the pool. I get that that girls want to make the most they can. But value for money in Germany has left the building! I would rather pay the extra to fly to Dubai / Thailand / Cambodia / Singapore / Vietnam and have better locations / places of interest / other things to do / and value for money in the clubs (as well as diversity of cultures available). The surprise for me this trip was Palace. For me. On a par with Sharks this time.
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[QUOTE=LMatador;2868056]Is this Moldovan / Romanian Jessica? A buxom tanned girl with glasses?[/QUOTE]Yes that's the one. She used to have natural boobs which were nice and brunette hair. There was no need for bleached blonde hair and fake silicons but her body, her choice etc. I did repeat with her in 2015 with a new girl as a part of a threesome but session lasted 45 minutes and so didn't get the full time allocation. Didn't bother seeing her again as a result.
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[QUOTE=BeWilder;2868318]Yes that's the one. She used to have natural boobs which were nice and brunette hair. There was no need for bleached blonde hair and fake silicons but her body, her choice etc. I did repeat with her in 2015 with a new girl as a part of a threesome but session lasted 45 minutes and so didn't get the full time allocation. Didn't bother seeing her again as a result.[/QUOTE]Oh wow. She was one of my favourites. Any chance of pointing where she sits now?
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I plan to go in about a month on a Monday in the early afternoon. (I have to be back in frankfurt in the late afternoon / early evening). If I arrive at noon or 1 pm, and play to stay for 2 hrs or so, is that "too early"? I know there are more in the evening. One time I went to an FKK about that time. I saw maybe 10 girls but half were eating, the other half were talking to each other. The last time I went to sharks was late afternoon and there were too many to count. Another option is to perhaps try palace. Being closer to frankfurt, I should be able to be there later
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2868415]I plan to go in about a month on a Monday in the early afternoon. (I have to be back in frankfurt in the late afternoon / early evening). If I arrive at noon or 1 pm, and play to stay for 2 hrs or so, is that "too early"? I know there are more in the evening. One time I went to an FKK about that time. I saw maybe 10 girls but half were eating, the other half were talking to each other. The last time I went to sharks was late afternoon and there were too many to count. Another option is to perhaps try palace. Being closer to frankfurt, I should be able to be there later[/QUOTE]Save your money for a day you will have time. Staying 2 hours only on a Monday at noon is a guarantee to be disappointed.
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[QUOTE=BarryManila;2868214]Exactly. I agree.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear you. Now I don't visit Sharks often, because casting is not good value for me, so, even a foreigner, but I do like regulars in this business, I go elsewhere for better value and quality.
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[QUOTE=GabrielPontello;2868010]My First time at Sharks was a 50/50 good experience. Girls squad was huge but there were men in double amount.
Most of the girls were above the average but it looked to stay in Romania since at least 90% of them were from There.
Service also was average tough rates increased after the pandemic period.
Being an old visitor of FKK scene all around the country, I can sadly say that good old times are gone because despite the huge choice, service and look of the girl is not comparable Whit is used to be.[/QUOTE]Other profile? Bad luck you didn't come to me, when I like to see looks about writings. Yes crowded Saturday party, but Maxima was smiling in kitchen, but too much cellulite. Kity for hours in her couch, fortunately some Asians. Katalea needed to work til later than 2 am and Sofi to hunt all over lounge, Kloe with usual slow business. Low quality casting for me, bad value for money asked, but my tip is other better values in Germany and same about Globe in Switzerland. From 7 pm to later than 2. 30 am, I never felt hard when looking at casting, when today, when I started Venus8 now with race preparation, I felt hard. Wishing for Zermatt Cervinia for women on Saturday, but just after, I will test on autobahns, even mini WRC make Germans crazy, when they don't even try to play with Venus8 and now more powerful. Today was my Christmas and I was right to save my money for more than entry for good diner on Saturday party.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2868307]I think I saw you there on Saturday. Are you a very tall, bald, slim guy? Think I saw you take a very tall dark slim girl up the stairs by the jacuzzis. Apologies if not you.
I'm disappointed that I went to Oase Thursday instead of Friday which sounds much better. I don't know Katalea or Kitty. Is one of them the tiny thin girl with very long dark hair past her ass who sits on a bar stool right hand side of the bar (from entrance)? Spoke with her and liked her figure but she is a miserable type so I declined. She seemed to want to talk mainly to the Asian guys.
There were a lot of options but (a) the rooms upstairs and even a couple downstairs are just far too hot and (b) the upselling is really beginning to be annoying.
Before pricing changes FKKs were a 3 or 4 year trip for me. Not now. Whilst I still love the model of being in a bar / club full of naked women, as I've posted previously, the pricing structure has diminished my interest. For the same price I paid for 3 rooms on Saturday night I can have a 10/10 worldie spinner in Dubai for the whole night. I could probably buy one of the bars in Thailand for a little more money! Spain is now cheaper than Germany. The girls in E92 Fuengirola are 200/ hour no price for extras other than anal (most don't do that or CIM). The girls in Scandalos Malaga are 250/ hour or 400/2 hours. Geneva recently was 200/ hour. One night in Amsterdam recently - 150/ hour in a red light club. What is possible in FKKs is to find many girls who will do extras of CIM and anal. Most of the girls in Spain (not all) will not offer these services at all and indeed if they don't know you already some will refuse BBBJ. But overall, IMHO, Germany has become really quite expensive. Especially, as you say, for the quality (or lack of it) on offer. Despite all that, I know for certain I will return. But whereas historically that would be several times a year. It won't be in future. I suspect I will limit myself to one (max two) Germany trips probably in better weather to enjoy the outdoors of Oase and Sharks with the naked ladies around the pool. I get that that girls want to make the most they can. But value for money in Germany has left the building! I would rather pay the extra to fly to Dubai / Thailand / Cambodia / Singapore / Vietnam and have better locations / places of interest / other things to do / and value for money in the clubs (as well as diversity of cultures available). The surprise for me this trip was Palace. For me. On a par with Sharks this time.[/QUOTE]Tall and bald? Exactly me, but I couldn't find any attractive to pay for on Saturday party, like on previous visit on a Sunday party on September, 2 visits and full balls, but I ate good on the 2 visits. Sharks is now where guys pay to be fucked with foot deep in ass without gel by girls, when still good values elsewhere in Germany. Very regulars in this business go elsewhere since a while. Pity when staff make good job, but their girls fuck them.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2868415]I plan to go in about a month on a Monday in the early afternoon. (I have to be back in frankfurt in the late afternoon / early evening). If I arrive at noon or 1 pm, and play to stay for 2 hrs or so, is that "too early"? I know there are more in the evening. One time I went to an FKK about that time. I saw maybe 10 girls but half were eating, the other half were talking to each other. The last time I went to sharks was late afternoon and there were too many to count. Another option is to perhaps try palace. Being closer to frankfurt, I should be able to be there later[/QUOTE]A Monday at noon seems like the absolute worst combo you could choose. I don't think I would even bother and would just get a higher quality escort incall.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2868467]A Monday at noon seems like the absolute worst combo you could choose. I don't think I would even bother and would just get a higher quality escort incall.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Prelude141;2868429]Save your money for a day you will have time. Staying 2 hours only on a Monday at noon is a guarantee to be disappointed.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I was afraid of that, I'd be getting there noon - 1 pm time frame staying til 3 pm at the latest. I've gone that early to other FKKs and it's been pretty mixed.
I've never stayed the whole day before. Maybe in my younger days I could see 3 girls, but these days its more like one or two at most. So I stay 2-4 hrs usually during the day and not evening.
How about going to Palace, I could stay til maybe 4 pm. Still too early?
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2868521]Thanks, I was afraid of that, I'd be getting there noon - 1 pm time frame staying til 3 pm at the latest. I've gone that early to other FKKs and it's been pretty mixed.
I've never stayed the whole day before. Maybe in my younger days I could see 3 girls, but these days its more like one or two at most. So I stay 2-4 hrs usually during the day and not evening.
How about going to Palace, I could stay til maybe 4 pm. Still too early?[/QUOTE]If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks, at 1 pm. For sure, not best time, but on Saturday party, despite quantity, casting was really not impressive for me, bad value for money for such looks, couldn t find a attractive, when I saw prettier for less expensive at Oase on Friday 3 November, even less quantity. Facts were crowd on party, but many girls not busy.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868458]Tall and bald? Exactly me, but I couldn't find any attractive to pay for on Saturday party, like on previous visit on a Sunday party on September, 2 visits and full balls, but I ate good on the 2 visits. Sharks is now where guys pay to be fucked with foot deep in ass without gel by girls, when still good values elsewhere in Germany. Very regulars in this business go elsewhere since a while. Pity when staff make good job, but their girls fuck them.[/QUOTE]Can still find between 100 and 150 for 1 hour with FK, DATY, BBBJ, in Germany and even with some at Sharks where the highest levels are not the most expensive and Sharks is only 1 club among many others in Germany. Exactly same than for Globe which is not best value for money and quality in Switzerland. I would say Sharks or Globe are now for those behaving like tourist, or few who are in love for a girl, when only love in bed for me but need fresh deep GFE, elegant natural woman look. I saw one a bit elegant on party, but silicon, at German table. Silicon worth less expensive for me than naturals, when plastic is low level like porn.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868586]Can still find between 100 and 150 for 1 hour with FK, DATY, BBBJ, in Germany and even with some at Sharks[/QUOTE]Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.
This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.
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[QUOTE=PayForIt;2867004]200/60 is standard service including BBBJ and FS (obviously covered).
I will have a very large wager with anyone that inside 12 months it will be 250/60 standard in Sharks. 4 times yesterday I was quoted 300 for either GFE or "romantic time" (never heard that before! [/QUOTE]300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2868307]I think I saw you there on Saturday. Are you a very tall, bald, slim guy?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja]Tall and bald? Exactly me [/QUOTE]LOL, I love your sense of humor Siri! So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.
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Sharks back to its former glories.[/QUOTE]LOL, another complete miss!
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2868715]Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm also very interested to hear the names of those girls. We keep on reading posts about beautiful girls with great service in NRW or girls with great service in Sharks, but strangely enough we never read any names of those girls and NRW clubs.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868579]If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks,.[/QUOTE]Ok, Brenda, Alina, Sabina are your (Siri) top three at Sharks.
Yes, if in 2015, it was correct. Today, it might be different. Although I still respect all these women.
I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: [B]Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine)[/B]. Ariana could be the 4th one.
They all quote at least 100/30 200/60.
If you think too expensive, then try other alternatives such as some old or tan or fat or heavy tattoos or Botox lips women.
Even if at 1 pm, Kitty is in Club already. Catelea comes usually around 3-4 pm.
If someone disagree, please list your top three here. If someones have not visited Sharks for long time, please do not post wrong information to mislead others.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2868715]Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.
This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.[/QUOTE]It's true that it's possible today to find girls who charge 100 for 1 hour. About my experiences, 3% of girls still continue to charge 100/60, less than 10% charge 200/60 and the large majority still ask 150/60, even among the most popular girls. But the truth is that there are no rules. The same girl can charge a guy for 150/60 included blowjob without condom, french kiss, and to another guy it will be 150/30 blowjob with condom. It's why it's not relevant to name girls, especially those who accept 100/60. Also, some girls don't like to stay 1h in a room, it's why they try to charge more than it should be.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2868715]Show the names of girls who still charge 100 for 1 hour at sharks currently. I mean now. Please do not tell us it was 2021 or 2022. If you can't show girls name here, then You makes assertions without evidence.
This year, I had 20 visits to Sharks and talked to more than 70% girls (except very ugly or old or fat) at Sharks, none of them quote 100/60. Usually 150/60 before August now 200/60 most likely.[/QUOTE]Can find at Sharks girls for 150/60 who are higher level than your ranked as top girls, full natural with no tattoo Sena. Ro for example and in some other clubs in Germany, can find even higher level than at Sharks, for less than 150/60 , when you don't behave like a tourist, even if you are a foreigner like me. Game now at Sharks is to fuck tourist behavior with expensive for low quality.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2868717]300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.
LOL, I love your sense of humor Siri! So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.
LOL, another complete miss![/QUOTE]Small Simona. Ro, 40 kgs, may ask 300/60 for few baby Romanian kisses, very expensive per kilo.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2868819]It's true that it's possible today to find girls who charge 100 for 1 hour. About my experiences, 3% of girls still continue to charge 100/60, less than 10% charge 200/60 and the large majority still ask 150/60, even among the most popular girls. But the truth is that there are no rules. The same girl can charge a guy for 150/60 included blowjob without condom, french kiss, and to another guy it will be 150/30 blowjob with condom. It's why it's not relevant to name girls, especially those who accept 100/60. Also, some girls don't like to stay 1h in a room, it's why they try to charge more than it should be.[/QUOTE]+1. Very well put.
Let me just add that "a quote" is not the same as "going rate". So, so many girls try their luck. Some (very few) because they can (less than a handful IMHO), but most of them simply because they get away with it. You will be surprised how many hot "200 E quote girls" that happily accept 150 E /60 with no lack of perfomance. I hate to say this, but if you choose to ignore the fact that certain FKK clubs these days have some similarities with a Turkish bazar, then you lose and need to pay an overprice.
But I clearly understand that this is not easy to comprehend for an occasional visitor. Or, the ones considering themselves as "premium guests". The last wellwritten reports from wellknown punters show this.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2868717]300460? Do you have "Tourist" stamped on your forehead? Funny how this never seems to happen to most other people.So here we have another tourist (PayForIt) who claims to 'know it all' about prices and service, yet it's totally clear that he doesn't regularly read this forum and that he is clueless about prices and price negotiations.
LOL, another complete miss![/QUOTE]Oh for sure I don't doubt that the girls don't see me as a regular. But many in the club do know me of old. I cannot speak of what happens to other guys. I don't believe I have ever claimed to "know it all" about prices (or service). It is nonsense that I don't read the forum (not only do I but I regularly contribute particularly when in Germany / attending FKKs). But as Shark16 sensibly wrote. Many girls do "try it on" and know that some guys will just pay what they ask.
I didn't succumb to silly demands or requests. If 2 years ago I had predicated that a LOT of girls were demanding 200/ hour for standard service, I suspect you would have been one of those to write that I don't know what I was talking about (or had "tourist" stamped on my head). But that would have been a very accurate prediction in this club.
Read back 4 or 5 pages (you seem quick to tell me I don't do so. In which case you won't mind me telling you to take your own advice) and you will see that it is fast becoming the norm for a lot of the girls seeking 200/ hour. Some didn't. Some went straight from 100/60 to 150/60 - but not many. You say I'm the only one who got quoted higher. Not so if you read back. And yes I did get quoted 300/60 for an hour but it included an extra which I would expect to pay more for. Even then. It was far too high and I rejected it on the two occasions that was put to me.
Contrary to your misconceived and totally unsubstantiated or corroborated notion, I am far from clueless about prices and particularly less clueless about negotiation which is 95% of my professional life. What is more obvious to me is that you are the one who does not have a clue about the approach / viewpoint / rationale of tourists to FKKs. We are a different breed to those who are lucky enough to live close. Those who can attend weekly or more often, who can easily drive a hard bargain without any concern, knowing full well that if the negotiation doesn't play out as planned it matters not. Tomorrow, next week will be another day / another chance. If you are coming to FKKs twice a year it's VERY different. You don't want to waste the opportunity. So when you narrow down your preferences to a few girls, and find that they (being perhaps some of the most popular) are driving the hard bargain, your choice is to walk away because you feel you are being squeezed for 50 extra, or you have the mentality that you won't be back here for maybe 6 months so to hell with it. And go with it provided it ain't too unreasonable. I think many of the girls are sharp enough to know that that is the case. With guys they see weekly they probably chance their arms less. Knowing that this is a very regular punter who they are better of snaring for 150/60 with a chance of many repeats than cashing on a twice yearly visitor who they are less worried about alienating.
So perhaps before you start bandying about bullshit about people being clueless about prices / negotiation or mis-quoting about "knowing it all" you might want to consider things from a different angle.
Oh and by the way, when a guy (a tourist) who is attending a German FKK without being able to speak a single sentence in German, its really not difficult for girls to see "tourist" stamped on his head! That's because it is very obvious from the off………that he is just that……. A tourist. He doesn’t need the stamp on the head.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2868787]Yes, I'm also very interested to hear the names of those girls. We keep on reading posts about beautiful girls with great service in NRW or girls with great service in Sharks, but strangely enough we never read any names of those girls and NRW clubs.[/QUOTE]Valeria. It at GG for 140/60 . Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro at Sharks for 150/60 . I keep my best for me when she is old Germans superstar. Zayra. Ro and Melisa. Ro at Freubad.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2868808]Ok, Brenda, Alina, Sabina are your (Siri) top three at Sharks.
Yes, if in 2015, it was correct. Today, it might be different. Although I still respect all these women.
I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: [B]Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine)[/B]. Ariana could be the 4th one.
They all quote at least 100/30 200/60.
If you think too expensive, then try other alternatives such as some old or tan or fat or heavy tattoos or Botox lips women.
Even if at 1 pm, Kitty is in Club already. Catelea comes usually around 3-4 pm.
If someone disagree, please list your top three here. If someones have not visited Sharks for long time, please do not post wrong information to mislead others.[/QUOTE]I just listed girls working at noon /1 pm, when I was never with the 3 , but for sure Russian help with Maria, even too hurricane for sex for me. Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro star of Mainhattan, both full natural with almost no tattoo, are so far higher level for sex than too expensive for their value Kity or Katalea. Fact on this crowded Saturday party was both were not busy and Katalea was working at 2. 30 am, when You should know she usually goes to bed around 1 am, when she needs to sleep to rest her skin. Sharks girls rates are for tourists, when Kloe or Simona ask even more than 200/60 for kissing, when Kity ask 150/30 to light kiss Asians. Those who know a bit the business don t pay so low value for quality and go and enjoy higher quality and better value for money elsewhere. Sharks is like Globe now, more expensive for lower quality than elsewhere.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2868808]I believe, at Sharks, in November 2023, the top three girls optic wise should be: [B]Catelea (22), Kitty (22), Maria (20, Ukraine)[/B]. Ariana could be the 4th one.
They all quote at least 100/30 200/60...[/QUOTE]Not all the girls of your list. Sorry, but once again, your experiences are just your experiences. You cannot say it will be the same for everybody.
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Top 3 optics
This Happytour list is very helpful for newbie like me. I noticed that You (Siri) judge girls based on their "sex skill", you are very demanding like "Sex Connoisseur". But Optics and "sex skill" are different. I am curious, if you pick Top 3 girls purely on "optics", without considering sex skill on bed, who would be? For majority of people, I believe optics is more important than sex skill.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868947]I just listed girls working at noon /1 pm, when I was never with the 3 , but for sure Russian help with Maria, even too hurricane for sex for me. Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro star of Mainhattan, both full natural with almost no tattoo, are so far higher level for sex than too expensive for their value Kity or Katalea. Fact on this crowded Saturday party was both were not busy and Katalea was working at 2. 30 am, when You should know she usually goes to bed around 1 am, when she needs to sleep to rest her skin. Sharks girls rates are for tourists, when Kloe or Simona ask even more than 200/60 for kissing, when Kity ask 150/30 to light kiss Asians. Those who know a bit the business don t pay so low value for quality and go and enjoy higher quality and better value for money elsewhere. Sharks is like Globe now, more expensive for lower quality than elsewhere.[/QUOTE]
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Top 3
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2868964]Not all the girls of your list. Sorry, but once again, your experiences are just your experiences. You cannot say it will be the same for everybody.[/QUOTE]Happytour is specifically using a phrase "I believe", which means that it's his subjective opinion and he is NOT stating that as "universal fact" as you claim. "Beauty" is always subjective.
But these three girls are also mentioned by many others as top girls.
Anyway, can you also share your Optics Top3 if it's different from Happytour's list? Optics, not sex skill top 3.
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Ramona, Fit Teeny Spinner
Actually Ramona is 25. Tight great bod, small perky tits. Sweet, willing, delicious. 100/30. Hangs out standing at the white piller between the stairs and the bar. Yes!
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[QUOTE=David1266;2869085]This Happytour list is very helpful for newbie like me. I noticed that You (Siri) judge girls based on their "sex skill", you are very demanding like "Sex Connoisseur". But Optics and "sex skill" are different. I am curious, if you pick Top 3 girls purely on "optics", without considering sex skill on bed, who would be? For majority of people, I believe optics is more important than sex skill.[/QUOTE]First, we don t all have same eyes. Katalea, Kity, Kloe are quite pretty but many others on his list are not pretty for me when I m not into little Romanians looking like schoolgirl. I m much more excited by woman images and behavior in bed. Kloe appeared too professionnal for me. Katalea is now limited for sex, Kity is not interesting for sex, other than when she says she doesn t work like others. All 3 are too expensive for their potential for my GFE, when asking 200 or more for FK for 1 hour which is higher quality for me than 30 fast minutes. I m a foreigner, but for everything in my life, I m only interested by quality and I don t think they are highest quality at Sharks, compare to Sena. Ro or Tara. Ro who are for less expensive and so far higher level in bed, with really great BJ for one when she wants to please You back. Matter if You play tourist just hugging, or a bit professionnal like at job and a fucker, when I hate to waste my money for only average level. At GG, I get more elegant and higher GFE for less than 150 for 1 hour in the most beautiful rooms in FKK land. Why would I pay more expensive to get lower quality at Sharks or Globe. 0 room on my 2 last visits at Sharks, on Saturday or Sunday party. 0 room on my 2 2023 Globe visits, but I m more picky and demanding, from my past girlfriends, than most in FKK land. For example, I almost can t find anymore attractive escorts among Ukrainians and Russians in Paris, so I let You imagine for little Romanians at Sharks or Globe. On the other hand, I see some pretties at Oase, Nadia, Andra, 3 I don t like much behavior. At Sharks, seem now best quality is not among most expensive, when I doubt little Simona can compete in bed with Sena, as I doubt I could enter in her.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868937]Valeria. It at GG for 140/60 . Sena. Ro, Tara. Ro at Sharks for 150/60 . I keep my best for me when she is old Germans superstar. Zayra. Ro and Melisa. Ro at Freubad.[/QUOTE]Zayra who is ex Imperium refuse public sex, maybe why she left Imperium, but Valeria. It seems now to perform in kino, for sure losing elegance even elegant glamourous look.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2869098]Happytour is specifically using a phrase "I believe", which means that it's his subjective opinion and he is NOT stating that as "universal fact" as you claim. "Beauty" is always subjective.
But these three girls are also mentioned by many others as top girls.
Anyway, can you also share your Optics Top3 if it's different from Happytour's list? Optics, not sex skill top 3.[/QUOTE]My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.
If we speak about Optics Top 3, yes that it's something else and it can change everyday, depending on my mood. But I tend to be agree with Happytour on this subject : Maria (ukr), Catalea (ro), Kitty (ro) or Ariana (sp) are beautiful. I can add Ayleen (Austria) for her sex appeal, Kendra (ro) for her pretty teeny look. The same for Ginger. Melissa, Senna or Stacy have also something special and attractive. This is what I think today. Tomorrow I can have a total different choice, depending on my subjectivity.
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Girls' quote is subjective too. They change price depending on customers (rich travelers vs local people, for example), or how busy it is.
But in general, top girls always quote me at least 100/30, 200/60 also, although I never met Catalea or Maria.
Thanks for providing names, this is very helpful. I never heard of Ayleen before. She is different from Julia who is a Romanian who speaks fluent Austrian, right?
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2869256]My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.
If we speak about Optics Top 3, yes that it's something else and it can change everyday, depending on my mood. But I tend to be agree with Happytour on this subject : Maria (ukr), Catalea (ro), Kitty (ro) or Ariana (sp) are beautiful. I can add Ayleen (Austria) for her sex appeal, Kendra (ro) for her pretty teeny look. The same for Ginger. Melissa, Senna or Stacy have also something special and attractive. This is what I think today. Tomorrow I can have a total different choice, depending on my subjectivity.[/QUOTE]
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Cost performance
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2869228]First, we don t all have same eyes. Katalea, Kity, Kloe are quite pretty but many others on his list are not pretty for me when I m not into little Romanians looking like schoolgirl. I m much more excited by woman images and behavior in bed. Kloe appeared too professionnal for me. Katalea is now limited for sex, Kity is not interesting for sex, other than when she says she doesn t work like others. All 3 are too expensive for their potential for my GFE, when asking 200 or more for FK for 1 hour which is higher quality for me than 30 fast minutes. I m a foreigner, but for everything in my life, I m only interested by quality and I don t think they are highest quality at Sharks, compare to Sena. Ro or Tara. Ro who are for less expensive and so far higher level in bed, with really great BJ for one when she wants to please You back. Matter if You play tourist just hugging, or a bit professionnal like at job and a fucker, when I hate to waste my money for only average level. At GG, I get more elegant and higher GFE for less than 150 for 1 hour in the most beautiful rooms in FKK land. Why would I pay more expensive to get lower quality at Sharks or Globe. 0 room on my 2 last visits at Sharks, on Saturday or Sunday party. 0 room on my 2 2023 Globe visits, but I m more picky and demanding, from my past girlfriends, than most in FKK land. For example, I almost can t find anymore attractive escorts among Ukrainians and Russians in Paris, so I let You imagine for little Romanians at Sharks or Globe. On the other hand, I see some pretties at Oase, Nadia, Andra, 3 I don t like much behavior. At Sharks, seem now best quality is not among most expensive, when I doubt little Simona can compete in bed with Sena, as I doubt I could enter in her.[/QUOTE]Thanks very much Siri for sharing your philosophy. I now understand your English (I call it Siriojan) very well. I think Top 4 should be Katalea / Catalea, Kitty, Maria, Kloe / Chloe. I never met 3 of them, so it look forward seeing them.
It's interesting that we have different view on service value. When I go to a massage or dentist, Yes, I value them by their skill and the length of experience. But for this FKK service, it's very different. I actually prefer a girl who is fresh and amateurish and has very little experience (this makes sense from evolutional point of view). But this is just a difference in personal preference.
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Show the names of girls
I have 6 days visits in October and November. So my lineup and price information in my reports more or less provided current status at Sharks.
I agree with David1266 that anyone could share his top girls list if it is different from mine.
Further more, anyone could also disclose the names of girls in my list who quote me 200/60 but offer him 150/60. Then next time if I meet these girls again I would show evidence to these girls that they still accept 150/60. It would help all of us to keep price down and avoid surcharge. Otherwise. . .
I doubt some guys have not visited clubs for long time but still tirelessly engaged in posting to argue with others.
So I have to agree with Shark16 that Too many fake handles around ISG.
[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2869256]My answer was about this affirmation: "They all quote at least 100/30 200/60". I don't see what is subjective in this.
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Too many fake handles around here.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2867599]Sena are not German.[/QUOTE]Really? Different Sena? See below your post not while ago.
I knew Sena is 30+ yo service oriented woman with large tattoos. Not exact my type but might be your type.
Tara 30+ yo lady with silicone bra. Not natural but service-oriented women too.
As I remember you dislike tattoos and silie in your posts. Didn't you changed your taste?
But I always respect ladies. I know Tara and Sena. They are friendly.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2829531] Sena, blond white skin German ex Palace were for 100/60 for full GFE on 2021 after covid.
I had many times Katalea for 150/60 , the only one on 2021 . Rate really increased on 2022 . Supermodel 1,85.. . . .[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2869256]..... I can add Ayleen (Austria) for her sex appeal.....[/QUOTE]I went with very white skin Ayleen in 2018, she is not the best looking but her service is exceptional.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2869433]I went with very white skin Ayleen in 2018, she is not the best looking but her service is exceptional.[/QUOTE]I confirm not what I call a beauty and when she had big naturals, she really didn t need silicon. Long time in business.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2869333]Thanks very much Siri for sharing your philosophy. I now understand your English (I call it Siriojan) very well. I think Top 4 should be Katalea / Catalea, Kitty, Maria, Kloe / Chloe. I never met 3 of them, so it look forward seeing them.
It's interesting that we have different view on service value. When I go to a massage or dentist, Yes, I value them by their skill and the length of experience. But for this FKK service, it's very different. I actually prefer a girl who is fresh and amateurish and has very little experience (this makes sense from evolutional point of view). But this is just a difference in personal preference.[/QUOTE]My first criteria to choose a girl when I m the pickiest according to girls is her image, not only her look, but after discovering, this is not enough to repeat, when I m a weekly repeating specialist. I can t say Kity or Katalea are on high level when they ask 200/60 or more, way too expensive for their level. For 150/60 , can find far higher level at Sharks and elsewhere. Same like in Switzerland, expensive don t mean quality at Sharks for others than Asians and tourist behavior. Kloe is too professionnal for me. Maria is mostly interesting for me to speak and I love so much to hear Russian, so erotic while sex for me. Looks at Sharks really don t impress me since mid June. More quantity than quality for me, so I visit once every 2 months rather than weekly, most often with 0 room like on 2 last visits on party.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2869373]Really? Different Sena? See below your post not while ago.
I knew Sena is 30+ yo service oriented woman with large tattoos. Not exact my type but might be your type.
Tara 30+ yo lady with silicone bra. Not natural but service-oriented women too.
As I remember you dislike tattoos and silie in your posts. Didn't you changed your taste?
But I always respect ladies. I know Tara and Sena. They are friendly.[/QUOTE]I wonder if we visit same Sharks. Sena. Ro and Tara. Ro have almost no tattoo, 0 for Tara, 1 small for Sena. Also no silicon nor acid in lips, compare to Kity. Both are so far higher for sex than your so average top girls but maybe they are better for hugging or kissing neck than for caucasian sex, when I m sorry to be a fucker with a real size. Also, I doubt Alina or Sabrina would ask me 200/60 , when they ask me sometimes if I want. Melissa should also not be for 200/60 . Low level Bibi / Samira or Simona ask expensive. Sharks rule for You seems the most expensive for the lowest level, when can easily find German escorts for 200/60 or even less if they like You return to them. I hate to pay more expensive for lower quality and I would never buy a Dacia, when not my quality. But I had great elegant sensual Romanian natural woman types I repeated so often. More than 30 rooms with some. I look forward finding a new one.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2869539]Sharing online info with girls to weasel a lower rate is a real dick move that slowly undermines the veracity of the board.[/QUOTE]From above statement We could draw a conclusion that A 50 euros gap restricts cheap Charlie's comprehension and imagination. That guy doesn't understands what I mean.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2869373]Really? Different Sena? See below your post not while ago.
[/QUOTE]There is Senna, dark hair who around 26 from Moldova who sits near where Cami, Shirin & Romana sit, has worked there longer than those 3 though. I've only met her recently but she has given me very good service. I thought that was who Sirioja meant orginially but then as you quoted he said, blond white skin German ex Palace so clearly not her!
With so many girls it can be tough to know who you actually went with, plus they change their names, as you pointed out Celine is now Shirin and there is the ex-Oase Celine. I think Chloe called herself Catalea originally.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2869333].... But for this FKK service, it's very different. I actually prefer a girl who is fresh and amateurish and has very little experience (this makes sense from evolutional point of view). But this is just a difference in personal preference.[/QUOTE]Such girls can be capricious with behaviors and idiosyncrasies resulting from inexperience that are incompatible with the P4P environment which can destroy my mood. I prefer to meet them as non-pros where I can mold them into agreeable sex partners.
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About Ayleen
[QUOTE=Turgid;2869433]I went with very white skin Ayleen in 2018, she is not the best looking but her service is exceptional.[/QUOTE]She worked in FKK mainhattan for about 5 years before she worked in Sharks. She had natural c cup tits when she worked in Mainhattan. She claimed that she was from Greece. LOL.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2869650]She worked in FKK mainhattan for about 5 years before she worked in Sharks. She had natural c cup tits when she worked in Mainhattan. She claimed that she was from Greece. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not same, Aylin now at Sharks is Austrian and I don't think she ever worked at Mainhattan, but at Bruggen.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2869602]There is Senna, dark hair who around 26 from Moldova who sits near where Cami, Shirin & Romana sit, has worked there longer than those 3 though. I've only met her recently but she has given me very good service. I thought that was who Sirioja meant orginially but then as you quoted he said, blond white skin German ex Palace so clearly not her!
With so many girls it can be tough to know who you actually went with, plus they change their names, as you pointed out Celine is now Shirin and there is the ex-Oase Celine. I think Chloe called herself Catalea originally.[/QUOTE]I never wrote Sena is blond white skin German ex Palace. Those who look for quality at Sharks know who is Sena you described.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2869373]Really? Different Sena? See below your post not while ago.
I knew Sena is 30+ yo service oriented woman with large tattoos. Not exact my type but might be your type.
Tara 30+ yo lady with silicone bra. Not natural but service-oriented women too.
As I remember you dislike tattoos and silie in your posts. Didn't you changed your taste?
But I always respect ladies. I know Tara and Sena. They are friendly.[/QUOTE]I listed girls. Blond white skin German ex Palace was Daisi. You know so few about Sharks, when behaving like a easy tourist for hugging. Almost no tattoo for high level Sena. Ro. 0 tattoo for Tara. Ro.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2868833]+1. Very well put.
Let me just add that "a quote" is not the same as "going rate". So, so many girls try their luck. Some (very few) because they can (less than a handful IMHO), but most of them simply because they get away with it. You will be surprised how many hot "200 E quote girls" that happily accept 150 E /60 with no lack of perfomance. I hate to say this, but if you choose to ignore the fact that certain FKK clubs these days have some similarities with a Turkish bazar, then you lose and need to pay an overprice.
But I clearly understand that this is not easy to comprehend for an occasional visitor. Or, the ones considering themselves as "premium guests". The last wellwritten reports from wellknown punters show this.[/QUOTE]Finally at least a few guys here that understand the system the girls work with after Covid. Thank god!
While HappyTour keeps on pretending that the rates he gets charged are valid for everyone, PayForIt gave a very good insight of a tourist's point of view. And -accidentally or on purpose- at the same time also the reasons why tourists often have to (and are willing) to pay more.
Me as a regular just felt the need to jump into this discussion as some people here try to convince everyone that 200/60 is the new standard rate for good girls at Sharks. Because that's simply just not true.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868579]If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks, at 1 pm. For sure, not best time, but on Saturday party, despite quantity, casting was really not impressive for me, bad value for money for such looks, couldn t find a attractive, when I saw prettier for less expensive at Oase on Friday 3 November, even less quantity. Facts were crowd on party, but many girls not busy.[/QUOTE]Correct: Brenda starts very early, mostly around 12.30 to 1 o'clock noon. But she usually has her day off on mondays (or mondays and tuesdays if she does long stints without holidays). So, chances to see her on these days of the week are usually low.
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All I want is Sharks for Christmas? Or do I?
Decided to push my euro trip back a few weeks and and thought it would be fun to hit up Sharks on Christmas. Talked to my buddy Steve from here (aka Pussy Slayer, aka Legend) and he said prob not a good idea as a lot of the girls go home for the holidays. I know they are open 365 days a year so figure there will be some ladies? Maybe not as many but also prob not as many guys either I wouldn't think so should balance out? Has anyone been to the clubs over Holidays?
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Final FKK tour of the year
I'm going to be in Frankfurt for the last time for a while so wondering which FKK to visit for a girl who's pretty much anything goes, you only live once kind of experience. Any suggestions or would I be better off finding an escort to go to my hotel?
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[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2869733]Decided to push my euro trip back a few weeks and and thought it would be fun to hit up Sharks on Christmas. Talked to my buddy Steve from here (aka Pussy Slayer, aka Legend) and he said prob not a good idea as a lot of the girls go home for the holidays. I know they are open 365 days a year so figure there will be some ladies? Maybe not as many but also prob not as many guys either I wouldn't think so should balance out? Has anyone been to the clubs over Holidays?[/QUOTE]Christmas is time for ski, not in Brasov nor in Garmisch-Partenkirchen for me, but would be a good present to reach Girose glacier, Charboniere, Tyrolienne and Lou lake. Wish for Zermatt Cervinia women worldcup today.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2869333]Thanks very much Siri for sharing your philosophy. I now understand your English (I call it Siriojan) very well. I think Top 4 should be Katalea / Catalea, Kitty, Maria, Kloe / Chloe. I never met 3 of them, so it look forward seeing them.
It's interesting that we have different view on service value. When I go to a massage or dentist, Yes, I value them by their skill and the length of experience. But for this FKK service, it's very different. I actually prefer a girl who is fresh and amateurish and has very little experience (this makes sense from evolutional point of view). But this is just a difference in personal preference.[/QUOTE]For fresh spontaneous deep GFE, forget Kity who is used to fuck easy small size, fast to finish, more hugging than fkissing Asians for 150 per 30 . Katalea and Kloe are also not what I call fresh GFE, but 3 are very professionnal. Maria is more fresh, Sena. Ro and Tara. Ro are also much more fresh for sex and so far higher potential for real GFE and fucking with a caucasian size. And they are less expensive, when providing higher level.
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[QUOTE=UShobbyist;2869650]She worked in FKK mainhattan for about 5 years before she worked in Sharks. She had natural c cup tits when she worked in Mainhattan. She claimed that she was from Greece. LOL.[/QUOTE]She told me she was from Austria. If I am thinking of repeating with a girl and the choice is between a 9 who gives poor service and a 6 who gives good service I will repeat with the 6.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2869894]She told me she was from Austria. If I am thinking of repeating with a girl and the choice is between a 9 who gives poor service and a 6 who gives good service I will repeat with the 6.[/QUOTE]Ayleen is from Austria. Now she works from time to time, more specifically when there are some parties. I don't think she's been at Mainhattan. She has tried Golden Time before Covid but her base is Sharks. And it's very difficult to catch her when she's there.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2869728]Finally at least a few guys here that understand the system the girls work with after Covid. Thank god!
While HappyTour keeps on pretending that the rates he gets charged are valid for everyone, PayForIt gave a very good insight of a tourist's point of view. And -accidentally or on purpose- at the same time also the reasons why tourists often have to (and are willing) to pay more.
Me as a regular just felt the need to jump into this discussion as some people here try to convince everyone that 200/60 is the new standard rate for good girls at Sharks. Because that's simply just not true.[/QUOTE]Do You read German lustscout? When some Germans compete with Asians to overpay. Even a foreigner and not so regular since July, but I agree best quality at Sharks is for less expensive than those who fuck tourists and Asians. I hate to pay to be fucked, what I felt with Tunisian with cellulite Maxima, even she was smiling in restaurant on previous Saturday with party. I don't see any at Sharks worthing 200/60 . It would only be for a elegant wow look providing really fresh GFE fluently fkissing.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2869912]Ayleen is from Austria. Now she works from time to time, more specifically when there are some parties. I don't think she's been at Mainhattan. She has tried Golden Time before Covid but her base is Sharks. And it's very difficult to catch her when she's there.[/QUOTE]Not always busy, but sitting close to toilets. I tried at Bruggen, but not anymore for me, even she smiles.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2869791]Christmas is time for ski, not in Brasov nor in Garmisch-Partenkirchen for me, but would be a good present to reach Girose glacier, Charboniere, Tyrolienne and Lou lake. Wish for Zermatt Cervinia women worldcup today.[/QUOTE]Yeah I wasn't interested in what you want to do on Christmas. Appreciate your input on this page but your reply had nothing to do with my question. Christmas means nothing to me and and Sharks is open 365 days a year. Simply asked if there would be many women there or enough to have some fun.
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[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2870038]Yeah I wasn't interested in what you want to do on Christmas. Appreciate your input on this page but your reply had nothing to do with my question. Christmas means nothing to me and and Sharks is open 365 days a year. Simply asked if there would be many women there or enough to have some fun.[/QUOTE]I think there will be more girls You will be able to fuck, but better to be a bit blind, when looks are quite poor now, so, imagine like John Lennon for Christmas and Sylvester.
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[QUOTE=GuyFromParis;2869912]Ayleen is from Austria. Now she works from time to time, more specifically when there are some parties. I don't think she's been at Mainhattan. She has tried Golden Time before Covid but her base is Sharks. And it's very difficult to catch her when she's there.[/QUOTE]Yes, Aileen is from Austria. I ised to do threesomes with her and Mandy. Then, sadly, both she and Mandy left.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2869728]as a regular. . .[/QUOTE]The guy pretends to be a regular visitor and keeps misleading others With his cheap mindsets.
I mean Top girls such as Catelea, Kitty, Bibi, Maria, Chloe, Kim, Ariana, Vanness or even Claudia changed 200/60 now. However Niei deliberately distorted my words as all girls charge 200/60.
I did list girls names who still quote 150/60. See my recent reports.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2866965]Now 100/30 is a universal flat rate.
Hi gentlemen, could we compile a list of girls who still accept 150/60?
Until last week, I know below girls still accepted 150/60.
Lola.
Cami.
Amy.
Mira.
Jennifer.
Shirin?
Lina.
Alina.
Please add more.[/QUOTE]
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When I saw Kity warming her ass for hours in her couch, Kloe not busy as usual and Katalea needing to work very late for her, on last Saturday with party, yesterday, when I arrived at 7 pm after watching Gurgl when Zermatt Cervinia was cancelled again, my real Russian was busy, she was only free at 10 pm for me when she had already 9 hours in room. She came to me, I asked her if she had orgasm today? Answer smiling: not yet, but she wanted to know if I had a room? With who? Where I went on previous Saturday? My usual experience with girls, funny game, even when they are busy superstar. I was her tenth hour in room, but she was more fresh than on our previous room. Had to work 20 mn to make her explode, You are crazy she always say, and then willing to please me back, putting me deeply in her mouth and electric for fucking. I don t think many would resist to my sport at Sharks, even the tall. 150/60 for me for her high level, maybe I could pay her a bit less, when she ask more to some, difficult with some she say. Lets say 10 hours at 150 , how many made 1500 at Sharks on last Saturday party?
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Don't the Romanian girls go home in January due to the Eastern calendar? I seem to remember it's something like that.
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Is Sharks really open on Christmas Eve and Christmas day?
New Years Eve?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2870160]Don't the Romanian girls go home in January due to the Eastern calendar? I seem to remember it's something like that.[/QUOTE]Many Romanians go home for Christmas, to ski in Brasov and stay at least til mid January. Russians go home for 7 January for their Russian new year.
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[QUOTE=BlueMoon22;2869733]Decided to push my euro trip back a few weeks and and thought it would be fun to hit up Sharks on Christmas.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend going, it depends why you enjoy going to Sharks also. As well as the ladies I really enjoy the atmopshere, looking at on a Saturday and see 100+ girls walking around naked. I've never been for Christmas but went the first weekend in the New Year and the place was dead. Some people prefer the quieter days though so it might be for you. There will be girls there, the manager offers around a 1000 euro incentive if they work a certain number of days over Christmas, Catalea told me she planned to stay over Christmas on my last visit.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870088]The guy pretends to be a regular visitor and keeps misleading others With his cheap mindsets.[/QUOTE]You can keep on calling me a cheap charly for paying the normal prices. And I can go on calling you a clueless but stubborn guy who is overpaying the girls. But as I see no more benefit for the forum, I won't continue doing so.
May the readers here make their own opinion. And -much more important- their own experiences in the club if they deny the first quote for 200/60 from the girls.
I'll stick to my opinion (based on around 3 douzen visits this year so far): 100/30 and 150/60 min incl. DATY, FK, BBBJ and sex is the normal price at Sharks for more than 95% of the girls. And yes, I've been there in October and November as well.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2870168]Is Sharks really open on Christmas Eve and Christmas day?
New Years Eve?[/QUOTE]Usually Sylvester party when be team girls fuck even more tourists.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2870168]Is Sharks really open on Christmas Eve and Christmas day?
New Years Eve?[/QUOTE]Yes, it's open every day of the year. New Years Eve will be a big party, the girls working that day often increase their prices though as demand vastly outstrips supply.
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2870168]Is Sharks really open on Christmas Eve and Christmas day?
New Years Eve?[/QUOTE]365 days a year. .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2870124]My usual experience with girls, funny game, even when they are busy superstar. I was her tenth hour in room, but she was more fresh than on our previous room. Had to work 20 mn to [b]make her explode, You are crazy she always say, [/b]and then willing to please me back, putting me deeply in her mouth and electric for fucking. I don t think many would resist to my sport at Sharks, even the tall. . .[/QUOTE]Congrats your extraordinary glamour to save you 50 euros if Maria only charged you 150/60.
Some person always enjoys living in a peculiar fantasy that beautiful women are very fond of him, offering him preferential prices or even some free services, as if to prove his unparalleled sexy charm? Above post provides a case.
However in reality, cheap Charli who haggles over 50 euros apparently is not a good customer for women who work at club.
In the club, the euro is the most handsome, the euro is the most enticing. The less euros you pay to girls, the more ugly you appear.
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A German lady's name
What is the name of the German lady, 35 to 40, skinny, small breast, blonde blue eyes, sitting at the bar front close to entrance (MILF section) and her back is covered with huge tattoo with a big Skelton. Very difficult to talk to her because she is always talking to German ladies or German men in German.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2870216]. . .I can go on calling you a clueless but stubborn guy .[/QUOTE]I generally ignore individuals as above who, apart from engaging in disputes with other members, essentially never provide any posts of constructive value.
However, he kept spamming so I had to respond to him.
He could keep saying whatever nonsense if he feels happy.
Regardless of what he says afterward, I will completely ignore.
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Lara
[QUOTE=David1266;2870320]What is the name of the German lady, 35 to 40, skinny, small breast, blonde blue eyes, sitting at the bar front close to entrance (MILF section) and her back is covered with huge tattoo with a big Skelton. Very difficult to talk to her because she is always talking to German ladies or German men in German.[/QUOTE]Lara. I used to go with her about 6-7 years ago. But she then acquired that big tattoo that put me off. Also, I discovered that I could not unlock good kissimg from her despite many rooms.
She speaks good English, and she is not hard to get - just barge in!
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[QUOTE=David1266;2870320]What is the name of the German lady, 35 to 40, skinny, small breast, blonde blue eyes, sitting at the bar front close to entrance (MILF section) and her back is covered with huge tattoo with a big Skelton. Very difficult to talk to her because she is always talking to German ladies or German men in German.[/QUOTE]Lara at Sharks since 2015 , when Sandra retired.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870254]Congrats your extraordinary glamour to save you 50 euros if Maria only charged you 150/60.
Some person always enjoys living in a peculiar fantasy that beautiful women are very fond of him, offering him preferential prices or even some free services, as if to prove his unparalleled sexy charm? Above post provides a case.
However in reality, cheap Charli who haggles over 50 euros apparently is not a good customer for women who work at club.
In the club, the euro is the most handsome, the euro is the most enticing. The less euros you pay to girls, the more ugly you appear.[/QUOTE]When she is such hurricane for sex, I had only 100/30 rooms, but in Russian which make big difference with Maria. Ukr who is so fast and too hurricane for me. Fire for sex, lovely, but lack of sensuality for me.
When You choose to overpay at Sharks or Gold, like Asian or US tourists, we just tell You girls on best quality at Sharks are available for less expensive than You pay your average girls. I pay my best quality in whole FKK land just 150/60 . She is much busier than Katalea, Kloe and Kity, but on this Saturday, when she already had 9 hours in room meaning around 1500 € , but she came to me, for a different, relaxing for her, room in Russian and she was so fresh like a virgin for our intense sex when she was really wet. Some guys are for big money, some are different for girls, when this busy superstar wants to know if I go with other girls, why I didn t come on last Saturday, with my only 150 among her busy business. Game just start to become more interesting than just high level sex. Deep GFE I loved was after her deep explosion, no paper to clean, but she put me with my seminal liquid straight deep in her mouth to please me back. One does same at Sharks, not professionnal nursing cleaning. Also, after our sport, she told me: now I go home, at 11 pm. Have good dreams.
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[QUOTE=Nieimleben1234;2870216]You can keep on calling me a cheap charly for paying the normal prices. And I can go on calling you a clueless but stubborn guy who is overpaying the girls. But as I see no more benefit for the forum, I won't continue doing so.
May the readers here make their own opinion. And -much more important- their own experiences in the club if they deny the first quote for 200/60 from the girls.
I'll stick to my opinion (based on around 3 douzen visits this year so far): 100/30 and 150/60 min incl. DATY, FK, BBBJ and sex is the normal price at Sharks for more than 95% of the girls. And yes, I've been there in October and November as well.[/QUOTE]He choose to overpay girls, even at Acapulco Gold. Many Asians use this technique, even not all. He goes with Sharks girls who try to fuck tourist behavior, when we know girls on best quality at Sharks are available for less expensive than his own ranking for top girls who are really not impressive for sex, except maybe Kloe, but not busy. Bibi / Samira is low level out of her angel smile. Kity and Katalea are very limited. Not on same league for sex than Sena or Tara. When his top girls were not so busy on last Saturday party, seem some girls start to discount, maybe to pay entry and bed to sleep. On my last visits, my biggest problem was not rate, but to find a attractive image, when I found at Wellcum, Oase and of course my best at GG for very intense very deep GFE 150/60 . Still possible to find high quality for 150/60 or even less, even when a foreigner, when not playing tourist. For sure, less easy for Asians. Kity loves to fuck them.
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Lara
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2870397]Lara. I used to go with her about 6-7 years ago. But she then acquired that big tattoo that put me off. Also, I discovered that I could not unlock good kissimg from her despite many rooms.
She speaks good English, and she is not hard to get - just barge in![/QUOTE]Thank you. I thought she is Sena because I heard that Sena is a 30+ German lady with large tattoo. I guess Sena is younger than Lara.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2870423]relaxing for her, room in Russian and she was so fresh like a virgin for our intense sex when she was really wet. Some guys are for big money, some are different for girls, when this busy superstar wants to know if I go with other girls, why I didn t come on last Saturday, with my only 150 among her busy business. Game just start to become more interesting than just high level sex. Deep GFE I loved was after her deep explosion, no paper to clean, but she put me with my seminal liquid straight deep in her mouth to please me back. One does same at Sharks, not professionnal nursing cleaning. Also, after our sport, she told me: now I go home, at 11 pm. Have good dreams.[/QUOTE]Sorry. I mean "Alona" instead of misspelling as Maria in my previous post.
Yes I agree Alona still quotes 150/60. I never had room with Alona because I am interested in younger girls. It looks like Alona is about 30+, she is not my type. However if I had to choose mature women I would prefer Sophie De more than Alona. So I have no idea why you call Alona as "superstar ".
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[QUOTE=David1266;2870569]Thank you. I thought she is Sena because I heard that Sena is a 30+ German lady with large tattoo. I guess Sena is younger than Lara.[/QUOTE]Only one here claim Sena is German MILF, when all those who know a bit Sharks, know who is Sena.
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Sena vs. Senna.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2870631]Only one here claim Sena is German MILF, when all those who know a bit Sharks, know who is Sena.[/QUOTE]Sena, German MILF. 30+.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=174671&pid=1178025&highlight=Sena#pid1178025.[/URL]
Senna, Mol 26 yo.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Sirioja always wrote her name as "Sena". Now I realize that he actually referred to "Senna".
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870600]Sorry. I mean "Alona" instead of misspelling as Maria in my previous post.
Yes I agree Alona still quotes 150/60. I never had room with Alona because I am interested in younger girls. It looks like Alona is about 30+, she is not my type. However if I had to choose mature women I would prefer Sophie De more than Alona. So I have no idea why you call Alona as "superstar ".[/QUOTE]Alona? I don t know her. German Sofi ex Rhur escorting is far higher level in bed than your Bibi or Kity or Katalea, but not enough to repeat to pay 200/60 I paid on discovery when I m not a 30 mn guy when it s good. For 150/60 , I could repeat, when not even with Maxima. When German Jasmin ex Munchen escorting was more sophisticated chic for me, on her arrival day on October 2022 , she quoted me 400/60 , what I would have had to pay on escorting in Munchen for my love in bed, but we discovered at Sharks for 200/60 . On March 2023 , when we met again, she was not so sophisticated look, so I was less attracted, so she proposed me 150/60 for same sex and we kept on for other rooms on this rate. With my Russian who is my highest quality in whole FKK land including Switzerland, such a wow when I discovered her all in red, I did let go time, at the end 200/75 . On next week end, smiling welcoming, I asked her rate for 1 hour, 150/60 for me for our other rooms when she is more and more busy, when a part timer. On Saturday, when I was her tenth hour, she wanted to know why I didn t come on previous Saturday? If I go with other girls? My usual game, when I love to play tramp with girls returning to me to ask to repeat. Only those who are not able think only money pay, when I m used to busy superstars and they return to very different tramp I play, asking: You do same with others? Why You go with others? So many asked, making the game more interesting.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2855577]When I don't need Globe rules to get from girls, but I look for freshness for look and behavior. I never repeated any Globe girl since August 2021 , I don't pay for looks like Ariana, when I had 5 great girls at Sharks since 2022,3 Germans, 1 Romanian for 150/80 , I repeated many times and I would have repeated Sofi. De if she was not for 200/60 , when far higher level than most Globe girls and for less expensive. Sharks is higher level than Globe for a guy like me who love women, when Globe staff make now girls not being woman.[/QUOTE]Ariana is one of the most beautiful people that has been at sharks? The one that now works at The Palace?
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FKK Tour
So I just finished my FKK tour. You can read my other reviews in Oase and Samya threads.
I went to Oase on a Wednesday evening. Entrance is 50 euros, so that's good. All the usual girls were here, with not so many punters I'd say. All the girls, top or not top, were doing rounds trying to entice customers, including Katalea, Bibi.
Went with Ramona first, I like her. It's a no frill session, it will never be with her my best punt nor the worst but I know what to expect.
Then I was trying to decide who I would go with for the second round, I was looking for that Ukrainian Maria some people talk about to see if I would like her but without any clue besides that she is white, it's kinda hard to spot her. There was a few girls I was interested in but one caught my eye more than the others.
Her name is Zaira and she is a petite spinner. She sits on the bar on the other side, next to the kino. Rarely moves. I went and asked her if we could sit on the couch for a few minutes and she sighed and was annoyed immediately, saying 'where? Good start LOL. We sat somewhere and she kept a resting ***** face. I asked her if she was ok and said it's just her mood today. Oh nice, how about you keep your mood at home? I tried to make her smile and relax a little bit without much success. I didn't want to go look for another girl after all this time and I was closed to leaving so I still went with her. In the room, she was as passive as you can imagine and kept her eyes closed during the whole missionary. Finished and left. Hot girl but terrible attitude, at least on that day. I would maybe repeat on another day after making sure she isn't in "a bad mood" or skip it altogether.
Ranking during this trip: 3/3.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2870788]Ariana is one of the most beautiful people that has been at sharks? The one that now works at The Palace?[/QUOTE]Very long time Ariana at Globe who couldn t get business at Freubad.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870723]Sena, German MILF. 30+.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=174671&pid=1178025&highlight=Sena#pid1178025.[/URL]
Senna, Mol 26 yo.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Sirioja always wrote her name as "Sena". Now I realize that he actually referred to "Senna".[/QUOTE]I only know Sena. Ro and never heard about a German Sena, when I run away from silicon and tattoes.
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[QUOTE=SethiatSpace;2870847]So I just finished my FKK tour. You can read my other reviews in Oase and Samya threads.
I went to Oase on a Wednesday evening. Entrance is 50 euros, so that's good. All the usual girls were here, with not so many punters I'd say. All the girls, top or not top, were doing rounds trying to entice customers, including Katalea, Bibi.
Went with Ramona first, I like her. It's a no frill session, it will never be with her my best punt nor the worst but I know what to expect.
Then I was trying to decide who I would go with for the second round, I was looking for that Ukrainian Maria some people talk about to see if I would like her but without any clue besides that she is white, it's kinda hard to spot her. There was a few girls I was interested in but one caught my eye more than the others.
Her name is Zaira and she is a petite spinner. She sits on the bar on the other side, next to the kino. Rarely moves. I went and asked her if we could sit on the couch for a few minutes and she sighed and was annoyed immediately, saying 'where? Good start LOL. We sat somewhere and she kept a resting ***** face. I asked her if she was ok and said it's just her mood today. Oh nice, how about you keep your mood at home? I tried to make her smile and relax a little bit without much success. I didn't want to go look for another girl after all this time and I was closed to leaving so I still went with her. In the room, she was as passive as you can imagine and kept her eyes closed during the whole missionary. Finished and left. Hot girl but terrible attitude, at least on that day. I would maybe repeat on another day after making sure she isn't in "a bad mood" or skip it altogether.
Ranking during this trip: 3/3.[/QUOTE]You mean You visited Sharks and not Oase? On a Wednesday? With entry 50 .
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Sena
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870723]Sena, German MILF. 30+.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the photos. Brings back good memories, although from the photos, it seems she has put on much weight. She used to be petite!
I have not seen her in Sharks this year, though. Is she really back? Or maybe she is so plump now that I did not recognise her.
Thinking that she might be back, I specifically searched for her yesterday but did not spot her.
And to elaborate on my answer to David1266, this Sena is certainly younger than Lara, and would probably have just turned 30. It did not strike me that you were referring to her, as I remembered her as a SYT rather than an MILF. Also, she is more Turkish than German, as she used to sit with the Romanian girls on the couch Bettys gang currently sits, and did not mix with the German girls.
Also, Sena's tattoos are all over her arms and thighs, and I do not recall any big ones on her back. I had an all-German afternoon / evening once, in 2016, when I went successively with Mandy, then Lara, then Sena.
And to Sirioja who said that he did not know her, here are some of his past postings on her:
“I prefer rather than Gothic, tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena style, even she seems friendly, but I m not attracted by Harley fans or truck drivers.“
“Tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena is at GT.”
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2871651]Thank you for the photos. Brings back good memories, although from the photos, it seems she has put on much weight. She used to be petite!
I have not seen her in Sharks this year, though. Is she really back? Or maybe she is so plump now that I did not recognise her.
Thinking that she might be back, I specifically searched for her yesterday but did not spot her.
And to elaborate on my answer to David1266, this Sena is certainly younger than Lara, and would probably have just turned 30. It did not strike me that you were referring to her, as I remembered her as a SYT rather than an MILF. Also, she is more Turkish than German, as she used to sit with the Romanian girls on the couch Bettys gang currently sits, and did not mix with the German girls.
Also, Sena's tattoos are all over her arms and thighs, and I do not recall any big ones on her back. I had an all-German afternoon / evening once, in 2016, when I went successively with Mandy, then Lara, then Sena.
And to Sirioja who said that he did not know her, here are some of his past postings on her:
I prefer rather than Gothic, tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena style, even she seems friendly, but I m not attracted by Harley fans or truck drivers.
Tattooed and pierced everywhere, Sena is at GT.[/QUOTE]You really read all of me, since 2015 , such a follower. Sena. Ro who is full natural with almost no tattoo is much more my style and I like her beautiful eyes. Wasn t the other Sena very white skin and piercing in nose like cows? If I remember well.
For those following, my style is Valeria. It, not at Sharks where I don t see as glamour elegant, when she is full natural with almost no tattoo, looking like a normal woman, what excite me. I pay for this level of look.
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There are much fewer customers at Sharks at the moment. And probably most clubs in the Frankfurt region, because I recognised.
A lot of girls from the surrounding clubs like Oase had attended Sharks last night (Friday).
The LU has improved significantly since my last visit over a month ago. Maybe the reduced customers are making business too difficult.
For the less attractive ones, and they've left for a while. There were also several new hotties that I hadn't seen during my past several visits.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2872066]There are much fewer customers at Sharks at the moment. And probably most clubs in the Frankfurt region, because I recognised.
A lot of girls from the surrounding clubs like Oase had attended Sharks last night (Friday).
The LU has improved significantly since my last visit over a month ago. Maybe the reduced customers are making business too difficult.
For the less attractive ones, and they've left for a while. There were also several new hotties that I hadn't seen during my past several visits.[/QUOTE]On Friday, I found Oase casting with better looks than what I see at Sharks since a while. Party at Oase on this week end and on next, maybe why less clients at Sharks, or as staff told them, Sharks girls ask too expensive, making clients running away, when most regulars in this business already go elsewhere since a while. Sad when staff make good job for the club, but fucked by their girls. In a normal company, many would be fired for bad value for reason. In 2016 , Golden Time fired 11 girls.
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Who is Kitty? Whereabouts does she sit in the club?
Also, who do you think gives the best BJ out of the current LU? There's a new girl at world who has just moved there from Sharks, she told me that she's not going to be going back to Sharks because it's too crowded, I don't have her name but her BJ is the best I've had recently. She went the full 30 minutes and my glans actually had a hicky for a couple of days afterwards LOL.
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Kitty
[QUOTE=Gorge2;2872594]Who is Kitty? Whereabouts does she sit[/QUOTE]As you enter the club, she is always on the couch facing the bar to the right of the bar. Her back will be towards you. Easily identified as she is the skinniest whitest-skin girl with teeny look. Thinks very highly of herself. But nowadays, she is not so busy. Tried her once for the experience, never again. She was present today.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2872594]Who is Kitty? Whereabouts does she sit in the club?
Also, who do you think gives the best BJ out of the current LU? There's a new girl at world who has just moved there from Sharks, she told me that she's not going to be going back to Sharks because it's too crowded, I don't have her name but her BJ is the best I've had recently. She went the full 30 minutes and my glans actually had a hicky for a couple of days afterwards LOL.[/QUOTE]From Sharks to empty World? I regret I think I will never find attractive now to play bonobo in tree at World, but I lived Russian dream in so beautiful GG garden on this Summer.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2872660]As you enter the club, she is always on the couch facing the bar to the right of the bar. Her back will be towards you. Easily identified as she is the skinniest whitest-skin girl with teeny look. Thinks very highly of herself. But nowadays, she is not so busy. Tried her once for the experience, never again. She was present today.[/QUOTE]Kity is more woman look than really teeny Bianca Oase. Funny, she tells she doesn't work like other girls, but men come to her. When not Asian, for sure not highest level at Sharks and so many better values in FKK land.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2872660]As you enter the club, she is always on the couch facing the bar to the right of the bar. Her back will be towards you. Easily identified as she is the skinniest whitest-skin girl with teeny look. Thinks very highly of herself. But nowadays, she is not so busy. Tried her once for the experience, never again. She was present today.[/QUOTE]I think I may know who you are referring to. But the person I am thinking of, I have only seen her for the first time this weekend. She wasn't at the club between August to October.
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Winter Wonderlamd on Monday
Heavy snowfall in the morning. Garden waa almost white.
About 60-70 girls present, but not many men (probably due to the bad weather). Many girls just sitting around. German men also sitting around waiting for Aufgus. Which makes it ideal for a foreign visitor like me to make my pick.
Especially since there are quite a few new slim girls, and all reasonably pretty.
Most of these new ones said that they have been here only from 5 days to 3 weeks ago. This I know is true as I did not see them in October. Had sessions with 3 of the new slim ones over the course of the day. Much better catchment for me for new slim girls than at Oase where I spent 3 days last week, where the only new (to me) slim girl was Maya. (Maya is almost as pretty as Bianca).
Even a good looker like Kendra sat in the couch near the entrance for a change, without any customers most of the time. And, for the first time, I was approached by Maxima, who probably ran short of targets.
Which leads me to conclude that Sharks is worth visiting on bad weather days, as there are fewer Germans and tourists to compete with!
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2872765]I think I may know who you are referring to. But the person I am thinking of, I have only seen her for the first time this weekend. She wasn't at the club between August to October.[/QUOTE]Kity was at Sharks on October, milky skin, no tattoo, around 1,72 bare feet, slim with not round enough ass to excite me, sitting close to where we order drinks at the bar. As Germans say: optifuck.
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Kitty
I saw Kitty. I didn't see her for a long time. Her face seems to have changed a lot, perhaps a lip plastic surgery? She wasn't as pretty as I remember. Also, she was in a bad mood, seemed very arrogant. So I chose not to go to the room. To my surprise, she didn't have any customer for at least 3-4 hours. I saw she was trying to get a customer with hand gesture a lot, which I never seen before.
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Katalea or Catalea
Thanks to the help from people on this board, I finally found famous Katalea. It's amazing that our taste is so different. She was rated as top 3 by some, but I didn't find her pretty at all. She reminded me of actress America Ferrera. I spoke with her and she was not friendly either. I rate her 5 out of 10. She was available most of the time, so I don't think she is very popular. Please note that beauty is subjective and my taste may be outside of normal range and I respect people who likes her.
In contrast, I found Sophia (Macedonia) has pretty attractive face and very friendly and nice. But she refuses any type of kissing on mouth region, and also she is overweight, so I didn't go to the room.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2872995]Thanks to the help from people on this board, I finally found famous Katalea. It's amazing that our taste is so different. She was rated as top 3 by some, but I didn't find her pretty at all. She reminded me of actress America Ferrera. I spoke with her and she was not friendly either. I rate her 5 out of 10. She was available most of the time, so I don't think she is very popular. Please note that beauty is subjective and my taste may be outside of normal range and I respect people who likes her.
In contrast, I found Sophia (Macedonia) has pretty attractive face and very friendly and nice. But she refuses any type of kissing on mouth region, and also she is overweight, so I didn't go to the room.[/QUOTE]For sure, very different tastes, when one rank topgirls those who are really not the best in bed. Sofia, not German Sofi, is not wow for me. Pity for too heavy make up and too professionnal Katalea now, if You saw the riot on her arrival on 9 July 2021 . Never saw this at Sharks except for German Janine on 2014 . And I remember a more round ass when I saw chicken skin on it, when I big crashed with haldex quattro under big rain on 14 July 2021 to return to her and had to work a lot whole Summer versus expert to save car, but when repaired by Audi, I really tested haldex and sold before haldex which was not able to follow my game beyond the grip, would kill me. For my many rooms with her, 150/60 with Katalea, when since 2022 , she has mostly fast rooms for 100 .
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[QUOTE=David1266;2872989] . . . . I saw she was trying to get a customer with hand gesture a lot, which I never seen before.[/QUOTE]Sorry but I have to ask. What kind of hand gesture?
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Kitty
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2873095]Sorry but I have to ask. What kind of hand gesture?[/QUOTE]Well, yesterday she waved to me with a smile, while still slouched on her chair. Previously, she would just sit passively, chat with her friends (normally Hanna), or look dazed ahead. Maybe she waved to everyone she knew yesterday, or maybe it was just to me, which David1266 happened to spot. I don't really care; my room with her previously mechanical and with little close body contact. And yes, she now has goldfish lips that do not fit her small face and slim body.
Did not see her get much business yesterday, and she even had to resort to walking rounds.
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Competing Parties on Saturday
I see there is a German celebrity actress (but unrecognizable to this American) at Shark's on Saturday (Dec 2). I also see there's a party at Oase. Advice on which you'd choose?
I've been to Oase twice but never felt the LU compared to Sharks. Yet, it sounds like that may have changed some, and I'm assuming a party may result in a better LU?
I see Oase and Sharks are at opposite ends of the city. How much is a taxi between the two? Or is train better?
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[QUOTE=JefferyG;2873226]I see there is a German celebrity actress (but unrecognizable to this American) at Shark's on Saturday (Dec 2). I also see there's a party at Oase. Advice on which you'd choose?
I've been to Oase twice but never felt the LU compared to Sharks. Yet, it sounds like that may have changed some, and I'm assuming a party may result in a better LU?
I see Oase and Sharks are at opposite ends of the city. How much is a taxi between the two? Or is train better?[/QUOTE]She has nipples shaped like hearts. I would like a picture taken next to those. Does the weekend party at Oase include Friday?
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2873095]Sorry but I have to ask. What kind of hand gesture?[/QUOTE]Longest finger up.
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$400/ h at Sharks
I am also amazed by the price hike by some girl. I asked a girl who always sits on the edge of the couch near the front entrance. The first girl you encounter from the entrance. She is Ro, early-mid 20's, brown hair, name is "Montreal" or something (Correct me if you know her name). She told me that, "fuck / suck only" is $200/ h. "fuck / suck + touching any part of her body" is $300/ h. And any extra (BBBJ, Kissing etc) is another $100/ h. So a basic GFE is $400/ h or more! And I saw that she was sitting there all day without any customer. I guess her strategy is to find one rich customer who really likes her and charges him a lot. Of course I didn't go with her.
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Kitty
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2873095]Sorry but I have to ask. What kind of hand gesture?[/QUOTE]As Tanktank said, she "waves" and does "beckoning gesture" like many other girls. She also tries to make eye contact with many customers. This type of actions are normally not performed by top girls. For example, Katalea doesn't (although she doesn't have customer either lately). Kitty never did this in 2022. It shows her realization that she is no longer a super popular girl as before.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2872995]Thanks to the help from people on this board, I finally found famous Katalea. It's amazing that our taste is so different. She was rated as top 3 by some, but I didn't find her pretty at all. She reminded me of actress America Ferrera. I spoke with her and she was not friendly either. I rate her 5 out of 10. She was available most of the time, so I don't think she is very popular. Please note that beauty is subjective and my taste may be outside of normal range and I respect people who likes her.
[/QUOTE]I agree. She has to easily be a top 3 overrated girl of all time. My impression of her optics was 7. 5-8 out of 10. Personality was a mediocre 5 or 6.
My opinion is that her reputation was created from post covid lockdown "beer goggles. " She was one of the first new girls after clubs opened in summer 2021 and benefited from post covid blues balls. Any other year for a new girl to debut and she would have been another flavor of the month to be forgotten.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2873273]She has nipples shaped like hearts. I would like a picture taken next to those. Does the weekend party at Oase include Friday?[/QUOTE]I see the date on the website now.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2873102]Well, yesterday she waved to me with a smile, while still slouched on her chair.[/QUOTE]Oh OK. I was imagining something ridiculous, like making an OK gesture with one hand, and fucking it with an extended index finger of the other hand.
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Totally naked Maxima
I mentioned in an earlier post that Maxima had to walk rounds on Monday, and even approached me for the first time.
Most amusingly, on Tuesday when almost all girls wore something as it was dessous tag, Maxima walked around much of the time totally nude and displaying how astoundinly round and huge her boobs are. Well, it worked, as she now regained a steady stream of customers.
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Maira?
[QUOTE=David1266;2873323]I am also amazed by the price hike by some girl. I asked a girl who always sits on the edge of the couch near the front entrance. The first girl you encounter from the entrance. She is Ro, early-mid 20's, brown hair, name is "Montreal" or something (Correct me if you know her name). She told me that, "fuck / suck only" is $200/ h. "fuck / suck + touching any part of her body" is $300/ h. And any extra (BBBJ, Kissing etc) is another $100/ h. So a basic GFE is $400/ h or more! And I saw that she was sitting there all day without any customer. I guess her strategy is to find one rich customer who really likes her and charges him a lot. Of course I didn't go with her.[/QUOTE]If she is reasonably tall, somewhat slim but with a slight tummy and very slightly sagging boobs, that would be Maira.
No customers much of the time, but I saw her nab a newbie from China. After about 45 minutes, I saw him count a number of notes to give her at the licker. She looked quite happy. He looked happy too. Maybe I should give her a try.
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$400/ h at Sharks
[QUOTE=David1266;2873323]I am also amazed by the price hike by some girl. I asked a girl who always sits on the edge of the couch near the front entrance. The first girl you encounter from the entrance. She is Ro, early-mid 20's, brown hair, name is "Montreal" or something (Correct me if you know her name). She told me that, "fuck / suck only" is $200/ h. "fuck / suck + touching any part of her body" is $300/ h. And any extra (BBBJ, Kissing etc) is another $100/ h. So a basic GFE is $400/ h or more!....[/QUOTE]Ok guys, tell me again why I should return to FKKs?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2873501]Ok guys, tell me again why I should return to FKKs?[/QUOTE]Don't worry too much, most girls will overcharge men;.
1) if they are really ugly or have bad hygiene and they don't want to go to a room with them.
2) if they are obvious clueless simps-tourists, ready to be scammed and fleeced.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2872806][b]Winter Wonderlamd on Monday[/b]
Which leads me to conclude that Sharks is worth visiting on bad weather days, as there are fewer Germans and tourists to compete with![/QUOTE]No, you visited on a Monday, a traditionally VERY slow day in the FKK business [U]regardless[/U] of the weather. You can visit 52 Mondays per year, and it will almost always be a slow day because people have spent their money during the weekend and people are back at work.
[QUOTE=Gorge2;2872594]Who is Kitty? Whereabouts does she sit in the club?[/QUOTE]Hahaha, I have the same problem, I never see this "super model Kitty" when I look at that sofa towards the end of the bar on the right, where she apparently hands out. I'm guessing (but I could be wrong) it's this skinny brunette with silicone tits, duckface (Botox) lips, always glancing at her phone in her handbag, and sometimes walking around the room with another girlfriend. If this is her then I have no idea why people are so fascinated by her, it's pretty obvious for anyone with more than 2 braincells that she will provide a terrible service in the room.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870723]Senna, Mol 26 yo.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Sirioja always wrote her name as "Sena". Now I realize that he actually referred to "Senna".[/QUOTE]Senna is pretty cute. She sits in the back of the main room, beyond the bar, left of the stairs towards the jacuzzis."
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870088]I mean Top girls such as Catelea, Kitty, Bibi, Maria, [b]Chloe[/b], Kim, Ariana, Vanness or even Claudia changed 200/60 now. [/QUOTE][QUOTE=David1266;2869333]I think Top 4 should be Katalea / Catalea, Kitty, Maria, [b]Kloe / Chloe.[/b] I never met 3 of them, so it look forward seeing them.[/QUOTE]Chloe a "top girl?" LOL! Yes, sure she's very hot, but her attitude and body language screams: "rip off" and "tourist trap. " Chloe stands around many hours looking for the clueless simp tourist that she can scam, and if she's not standing around (to the left of the stairs leading up to the rooms) then she is playing for many hours on of those stupid gaming table together with her tattooed Turkish friends who look like drug dealers pumped up on steroids.
For all the fanboys: during my recent visits Brenda stood around many hours without customers. Are people finally figuring out that her face is quite ugly and that 'service' is nothing special? Renata and her friend Sara are also not making a lot of rooms lately.
Kiara (SRB-SLO) was also back again, looking arrogant and unhappy, sitting on a chair near the German Corner without customers for many hours.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2873521]Don't worry too much, most girls will overcharge men;.
1) if they are really ugly or have bad hygiene and they don't want to go to a room with them.
2) if they are obvious clueless simps-tourists, ready to be scammed and fleeced.
No, you visited on a Monday, a traditionally VERY slow day in the FKK business [U]regardless[/U] of the weather. You can visit 52 Mondays per year, and it will almost always be a slow day because people have spent their money during the weekend and people are back at work.
Hahaha, I have the same problem, I never see this "super model Kitty" when I look at that sofa towards the end of the bar on the right, where she apparently hands out. I'm guessing (but I could be wrong) it's this skinny brunette with silicone tits, duckface (Botox) lips, always glancing at her phone in her handbag, and sometimes walking around the room with another girlfriend. If this is her then I have no idea why people are so fascinated by her, it's pretty obvious for anyone with more than 2 braincells that she will provide a terrible service in the room..[/QUOTE]No silicon for Kity but perfect naturals, full natural slim body, no tattoo, like immaculate, prettier than more than 90% at Globe. But in bed don't compete with look. More round ass, when a bit flat, would make her more sexy for my eyes. I agree Sena. Ro is cute, and so far higher level in bed, for less expensive.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2873418]I mentioned in an earlier post that Maxima had to walk rounds on Monday, and even approached me for the first time.
Most amusingly, on Tuesday when almost all girls wore something as it was dessous tag, Maxima walked around much of the time totally nude and displaying how astoundinly round and huge her boobs are. Well, it worked, as she now regained a steady stream of customers.[/QUOTE]Beautiful eyes and teeth, but for who likes plastic and cellulite.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2873323]I am also amazed by the price hike by some girl. I asked a girl who always sits on the edge of the couch near the front entrance. The first girl you encounter from the entrance. She is Ro, early-mid 20's, brown hair, name is "Montreal" or something (Correct me if you know her name). She told me that, "fuck / suck only" is $200/ h. "fuck / suck + touching any part of her body" is $300/ h. And any extra (BBBJ, Kissing etc) is another $100/ h. So a basic GFE is $400/ h or more! And I saw that she was sitting there all day without any customer. I guess her strategy is to find one rich customer who really likes her and charges him a lot. Of course I didn't go with her.[/QUOTE]On the day she arrived, on October 2022, coming from escorting in Munchen, wow sophisticated super sexy Jasmin. De quoted me 400/60 for what I like for sex, so I stood up, then she told me 200. After our discovery, when she returned to me, she told 150/60, making her cum might help. Since July, I don't see any at Sharks worth 200/60, when I can have many German beauties for even less when they discovered me.
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[QUOTE=McGrath;2873517]That is not the price. She obvoiusly didn't want to go with him for some reason.[/QUOTE]OK good to know that this is Not a new trend. Other girls including Kitty and Katalea were $200 or $150/ h so I guess this girl was an exception. I went to her because she was very aggressively selling her to me, so I don't think she disliked me. Probably she thought I am a novice she can exploit which is true because I rarely go to Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2868579]If they work, You can get amazing naturals Brenda or friendly Alina or Sabrina, who are among the best at Sharks, at 1 pm. For sure, not best time, but on Saturday party, despite quantity, casting was really not impressive for me, bad value for money for such looks, couldn t find a attractive, when I saw prettier for less expensive at Oase on Friday 3 November, even less quantity. Facts were crowd on party, but many girls not busy.[/QUOTE]Hmm, then maybe it is worth it to go. The only reason I am considering going all the way to Sharks is because I like the young slim type.
The day before I'll be in dusseldorf free until around 4 pm but the threads for the FKKs there are not very active and the reviews are not very good.
I'm in frankfurt Monday and free until around 3 pm. I fly home the next day.
I suppose the question is what my best bet is. Go all the way to Sharks? Save some time and goto somewhere in Frankfurt (ie. Palace or Oase) instead where I can stay a little later and possibly see more girls.
Or give up on the whole idea and go home empty handed. I always goto an FKK when I visit Germany. I guess I should have planned an extra day this time.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2873424]If she is reasonably tall, somewhat slim but with a slight tummy and very slightly sagging boobs, that would be Maira.
No customers much of the time, but I saw her nab a newbie from China. After about 45 minutes, I saw him count a number of notes to give her at the licker. She looked quite happy. He looked happy too. Maybe I should give her a try.[/QUOTE]Maybe it is different Maria.
The real Ukraine Maria usually sat at German corner and never sat at entrance couch. I met Ukraine Maria twice on weekends. She is very white with striking python tattoo on one of her upper arm. Maria is a very friendly girl at least to me. We got to know each other when she ate her dinner one time. We chatted about 15 minutes. Then I immediately invited her to room but she told me she was busy that night and really felt sorry for me. Second time was one week later when I approached her, she hugged and kissed my neck. And then she told me a German guy booked her multiple hours until 11 pm. However I couldn't stay that much late so I never got chance to go to room with her. But I have to confess she is the most pretty girl I have encountered in the past one year in FKK. As I remember she said 100/30 rate. I was thinking if she could accept 1000 to book her whole night (6-8 hours).
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2873418]I mentioned in an earlier post that Maxima had to walk rounds on Monday, and even approached me for the first time.
Most amusingly, on Tuesday when almost all girls wore something as it was dessous tag, Maxima walked around much of the time totally nude and displaying how astoundinly round and huge her boobs are. Well, it worked, as she now regained a steady stream of customers.[/QUOTE]Maxima usually comes early before 1 pm if she works. She might spend 20 min to eat brunch. It is best time to chat with her, or invite her to room. I enjoy watching her smile with beautiful blue eyes, which Siri said that was fake. I am not sure.
Recent bad weather might prevent customers to go to Sharks. Really feel sorry for girls.
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Catelea
I had told Catelea that tying her hair up in a ponytail made her look unappealing. But once she changed to a shoulder-length hairstyle, she would look more attractive.
Catelea agreed what I said but she sticked to tied hair because it would make her easier to handle.
Heavy makeup is also an issue. Catelea knew that makeup would make a girl look older but she still used. At least she smokes less cigarettes (only e-siga).
Catelea is very friendly to me since I knew her. And she provides good GFE to me. I had 4-5 rooms with her this year.
[QUOTE=David1266;2872995]Thanks to the help from people on this board, I finally found famous Katalea. It's amazing that our taste is so different. She was rated as top 3 by some, but I didn't find her pretty at all. She reminded me of actress America Ferrera. I spoke with her and she was not friendly either. I rate her 5 out of 10. She was available most of the time, so I don't think she is very popular. Please note that beauty is subjective and my taste may be outside of normal range and I respect people who likes her.
In contrast, I found Sophia (Macedonia) has pretty attractive face and very friendly and nice. But she refuses any type of kissing on mouth region, and also she is overweight, so I didn't go to the room.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2873697]Maxima usually comes early before 1 pm if she works. She might spend 20 min to eat brunch. It is best time to chat with her, or invite her to room. I enjoy watching her smile with beautiful blue eyes, which Siri said that was fake. I am not sure.
Recent bad weather might prevent customers to go to Sharks. Really feel sorry for girls.[/QUOTE]You don't seem to understand much English, I never wrote her eyes color is fake, but fake, professional GFE and not French, when I'm 100%. On a Saturday party evening, I saw her smiling welcoming in restaurant, but wasting 200 was enough. I try not to make twice same mistake.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2873703]I had told Catelea that tying her hair up in a ponytail made her look unappealing. But once she changed to a shoulder-length hairstyle, she would look more attractive.
Catelea agreed what I said but she sticked to tied hair because it would make her easier to handle.
Heavy makeup is also an issue. Catelea knew that makeup would make a girl look older but she still used. At least she smokes less cigarettes (only e-siga).
Catelea is very friendly to me since I knew her. And she provides good GFE to me. I had 4-5 rooms with her this year.[/QUOTE]When she arrived at Sharks, at the beginning I got her with light make up, not Kleopatra nor Morticia look, and more round ass with chicken skin when her body reacted.
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Ma-yee-rah
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2873693]Maybe it is different Maria.
The real Ukraine Maria usually sat at German corner and never sat at entrance couch.[/QUOTE]The girl I am referring to is not the German Maria, but a relatively new Romanian Maira, spelt differently and pronounced Mayeerah.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2873521]Kiara (SRB-SLO) was also back again, looking arrogant and unhappy, sitting on a chair near the German Corner without customers for many hours.[/QUOTE]Kaira can't accept that her glory days are firmly in the rear view mirror. She has aged pretty quickly, thanks to the coke and nicotine diet, but she still hasn't grown up.
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Prime Time
[QUOTE=Samplerr;2873886]Kaira can't accept that her glory days are firmly in the rear view mirror. She has aged pretty quickly, thanks to the coke and nicotine diet, but she still hasn't grown up.[/QUOTE]Prostituting is definitely a business where a girl needs to have an exit strategy. You only have so much time you can do it before your looks and sex appeal begin to wane against competition from younger girls. And your lifestyle (drinking, smoking, drug abuse and so on) can only hasten your downfall if you're doing the wrong things. The smartest and most successful girls have a plan, they stick to it, they offer good service, they know how to manage money, and they take care of themselves. In my view, a 10 year stretch is about as long as a girl can go as a successful tute before her value in the business gets too low. And that's only if she's been consistently doing all of the right things, which most of the girls can't sustain. Which in turn means that for most of them their careers are going to be much, much shorter than 10 years. Like maybe only a couple if they (and we LOL) are lucky.
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[QUOTE=TankTank123;2873880]The girl I am referring to is not the German Maria, but a relatively new Romanian Maira, spelt differently and pronounced Mayeerah.[/QUOTE]Kind of snow white, despite tattoo, speaking Russian which is so erotic while sex, Maria he told about is Ukrainian and made erotic massage in her country before war. Lovely, fire in bed, even too much for me when lack of sensuality and not the prettiest, even pretty face but a bit average body. For my standard, she worth 100 for 30/40 mn, but not 200/60 , not wow look enough, same like Sofi. De even she is more sensual for sex, but I m not a rabbit, when I enjoy, 60 or 90 mn are far higher quality for me than too fast 30 mn. Both are on highest level at Sharks, far higher level than ranked here as topgirls, but I have higher level elsewhere in Germany for 130/150 for 1 hour or 200/90 , so why to pay more expensive for lower quality, same than for Globe which fell for quality. Most enjoyable game for me is when girls lower their rate after our discovery and to get their best for lowest rate and no extra asked, when nobody would drive like me to return weekly. When I don t go, busy superstar but asking why I didn t come? If I went to other girls? Enjoyable game when touching emotionnal among busy business.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2873635]Hmm, then maybe it is worth it to go. The only reason I am considering going all the way to Sharks is because I like the young slim type.
The day before I'll be in dusseldorf free until around 4 pm but the threads for the FKKs there are not very active and the reviews are not very good.
I'm in frankfurt Monday and free until around 3 pm. I fly home the next day.
I suppose the question is what my best bet is. Go all the way to Sharks? Save some time and goto somewhere in Frankfurt (ie. Palace or Oase) instead where I can stay a little later and possibly see more girls.
Or give up on the whole idea and go home empty handed. I always goto an FKK when I visit Germany. I guess I should have planned an extra day this time.[/QUOTE]In Dusseldorf, go to Acapulco Gold close to airport, You will see as pretty as at Sharks for half rate. Put your values in small lockers to safe them. On early day, I don t remember any teen at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2873501]Ok guys, tell me again why I should return to FKKs?[/QUOTE]Because fucking in a brothel is still 10 x easier than having to bring them back to your hotel one by one like in other cities.
I have fucked plenty of Eastern Europeans in Dubai. But's it's still an expensive pain in the ass that requires a lot of effort by comparison. First you need to take the taxi to the place (it will be a bar / club inside of a hotel usually 15 minutes away), then you have to pick a woman and pray you made a good choice and that she looks good naked, then you have to take a taxi back to your place, then you have to get them signed in at reception where everyone is looking at you funny, then you finally get to the room and they wany money and a shower first (they will demand you do both). And that's just for 1 woman. Imagine trying to do that 5 times and you're on a limited time crunch.
With brothels, you can just fuck all you want in one place at one time. Mission accomplished. If it wasn't for the FKK concept, I would have zero reason to go back to Germany.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2874033]Kind of snow white, despite tattoo, speaking Russian which is so erotic while sex, Maria he told about is Ukrainian and made erotic massage in her country before war. Lovely, fire in bed, even too much for me when lack of sensuality and not the prettiest, even pretty face but a bit average body. For my standard, she worth 100 for 30/40 mn, but not 200/60 , not wow look enough, same like Sofi. De even she is more sensual for sex, but I m not a rabbit, when I enjoy, 60 or 90 mn are far higher quality for me than too fast 30 mn. Both are on highest level at Sharks, far higher level than ranked here as topgirls, but I have higher level elsewhere in Germany for 130/150 for 1 hour or 200/90 , so why to pay more expensive for lower quality, same than for Globe which fell for quality. Most enjoyable game for me is when girls lower their rate after our discovery and to get their best for lowest rate and no extra asked, when nobody would drive like me to return weekly. When I don t go, busy superstar but asking why I didn t come? If I went to other girls? Enjoyable game when touching emotionnal among busy business.[/QUOTE]My last visit to Sharks I paid 50/30 and 100/60 and that is for girls of reasonable quality like Brenda for example who I paid 100/60. I will not pay 100/30 and 150-200/60 for girls of similar quality. They have to be of stunner hot quality for me to pay that.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2874088]My last visit to Sharks I paid 50/30 and 100/60 and that is for girls of reasonable quality like Brenda for example who I paid 100/60. I will not pay 100/30 and 150-200/60 for girls of similar quality. They have to be of stunner hot quality for me to pay that.[/QUOTE]When was your last visit? On 2021 , I had many 100/60 GFE rooms and with my best Sharks 202 . On French language forum, she got 0 vote, same like superstar Sofia. De at Globe on 2020. I must really be different. On this year, on my way to Summer holidays, I had 150 for nearly 1 h30, really excellent fresh GFE with my best Sharks 2021 girl, so far higher level than my mistake to go with Maxima I tried because many French seemed so enthusiastic.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2874087]Because fucking in a brothel is still 10 x easier than having to bring them back to your hotel one by one like in other cities.
I have fucked plenty of Eastern Europeans in Dubai. But's it's still an expensive pain in the ass that requires a lot of effort by comparison. First you need to take the taxi to the place (it will be a bar / club inside of a hotel usually 15 minutes away), then you have to pick a woman and pray you made a good choice and that she looks good naked, then you have to take a taxi back to your place, then you have to get them signed in at reception where everyone is looking at you funny, then you finally get to the room and they wany money and a shower first (they will demand you do both). And that's just for 1 woman. Imagine trying to do that 5 times and you're on a limited time crunch.
With brothels, you can just fuck all you want in one place at one time. Mission accomplished. If it wasn't for the FKK concept, I would have zero reason to go back to Germany.[/QUOTE]I agree. Even in Paris where we had most beautiful fresh Russian escorts just fallen from Tupolev, I was first client for some who were shinning when I started to speak to them in Russian, like Maria at Sharks, but it was till 2016 . Since then, except from Moscow Victoria and Tatar Nikol rdv4 U and Cz under covid, I m most often disappointed by new looks not worthing 200 for me, when my game was to book for 200/40 or 45 , to make them cum, so they wanted to please me back and stayed 50/55 mn. So I gave up in Paris, or Milano when I m on holidays, when I now find higher quality in Germany. Since July, Sharks is not highest quality, but I really enjoyed few elsewhere and for less expensive than what ask Sharks little Romanians. Germany still worth for quality for me when I didn t lower my standard but highered since covid and I love autobahns, Venus8 breathing so well when I pass border, looking forward testing with now race engine admission to breathe better. Aiming 300 on GPS.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2874032]Prostituting is definitely a business where a girl needs to have an exit strategy. You only have so much time you can do it before your looks and sex appeal begin to wane against competition from younger girls. And your lifestyle (drinking, smoking, drug abuse and so on) can only hasten your downfall if you're doing the wrong things. The smartest and most successful girls have a plan, they stick to it, they offer good service, they know how to manage money, and they take care of themselves. In my view, a 10 year stretch is about as long as a girl can go as a successful tute before her value in the business gets too low. And that's only if she's been consistently doing all of the right things, which most of the girls can't sustain. Which in turn means that for most of them their careers are going to be much, much shorter than 10 years. Like maybe only a couple if they (and we LOL) are lucky.[/QUOTE]Some age fast and lose freshness in few weeks, I don t even say about those putting silicon, tattoes, piercings and prostitute look, but some remain quite fresh for look and behavior and I love to surprise those long time in business types who were fucked by so many, but who look so surprised by my way. I find it so exciting.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2874036]In Dusseldorf, go to Acapulco Gold close to airport, You will see as pretty as at Sharks for half rate. Put your values in small lockers to safe them. On early day, I don t remember any teen at Sharks.[/QUOTE]
I did read about Acapulco Gold, it sounded kind of dirty and some not so great reviews. Saying it was like a dirty elderly nursing home if I recall. And having trouble finding someone attractive.
But you think that Sunday around 2-3 pm, I will have better luck at Acapulco Gold vs on Monday around 1-2 pm at sharks trying to find a good teen?
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2874120]I did read about Acapulco Gold, it sounded kind of dirty and some not so great reviews. Saying it was like a dirty elderly nursing home if I recall. And having trouble finding someone attractive.
But you think that Sunday around 2-3 pm, I will have better luck at Acapulco Gold vs on Monday around 1-2 pm at sharks trying to find a good teen?[/QUOTE]I never caught bad at Gold and better value than Sharks teens.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2873521]
Senna is pretty cute. She sits in the back of the main room, beyond the bar, left of the stairs towards the jacuzzis."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sirioja]I agree Sena. Ro is cute, and so far higher level in bed, for less expensive.[/QUOTE]Why do you constantly insist of [U]deliberately[/U] misspelling her name? Besides that, she is from Moldova, NOT Romania!
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2870723]
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Sirioja always wrote her name as "Sena". Now I realize that he actually referred to "Senna".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2874087]Because fucking in a brothel is still 10 x easier than having to bring them back to your hotel one by one like in other cities.
I have fucked plenty of Eastern Europeans in Dubai. But's it's still an expensive pain in the ass that requires a lot of effort by comparison. First you need to take the taxi to the place (it will be a bar / club inside of a hotel usually 15 minutes away), then you have to pick a woman and pray you made a good choice and that she looks good naked, then you have to take a taxi back to your place, then you have to get them signed in at reception where everyone is looking at you funny, then you finally get to the room and they wany money and a shower first (they will demand you do both). And that's just for 1 woman. Imagine trying to do that 5 times and you're on a limited time crunch.
With brothels, you can just fuck all you want in one place at one time. Mission accomplished. If it wasn't for the FKK concept, I would have zero reason to go back to Germany.[/QUOTE]I agree, going to clubs can be a waste of time and money.
However, I would define a brothel differently from an FKK.
At an FKK, you might use allot of time either trying to talk to the girls or waiting for them to come to you. You pay the entrance fee in addition to the session fee so it might cost more. Especially if you arent the type that can see too many girls in a day.
At a brothel, they often show you a line up of girls, might have a few seconds to talk to each, then you choose one and done. You can be in and out pretty fast.
Obviously in both cases, if you already know which girl (s) you want, I suppose they can be both quick. However it can be difficult.
Even going through this thread, maybe I can pick out some names, but I don't really have a good idea of what they look like and I have to remember a list of names.
What I've found best in my travels (to my surprise) was in Barcelona. Online reviews that seem to actually be accurate and reliable along with somewhat accurate photos. Pick one, whatsapp to schedule, and then show up. Cheaper too.
I don't typically travel only for this purpose so my time can be limited. An FKK setup isn't always best for me, but perhaps the novelty of it makes me want to go. I usually have at least one decent experience when I visit.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2873635]Or give up on the whole idea and go home empty handed. I always goto an FKK when I visit Germany. I guess I should have planned an extra day this time.[/QUOTE]I would go for this option unfortunately given you can only visit Frankfurt for a few hours on Monday. Monday is normally the slowest day in FKKs and early in the afternoon clubs will be quiet. I do not recommend Acapulco Gold but the entrance is only 35 euros so if you have nothing else to do you could go, some people like it.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2874187]I would go for this option unfortunately given you can only visit Frankfurt for a few hours on Monday. Monday is normally the slowest day in FKKs and early in the afternoon clubs will be quiet. I do not recommend Acapulco Gold but the entrance is only 35 euros so if you have nothing else to do you could go, some people like it.[/QUOTE]Ok thanks. Maybe I'll just go, maybe I'll skip it. I guess I'll see how bored I get on that day. At least I'll get a 40EUR lunch LOL.
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Maria (Ukr)
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2874033]Kind of snow white, despite tattoo, speaking Russian which is so erotic while sex, Maria he told about is Ukrainian and made erotic massage in her country before war. Lovely, fire in bed, even too much for me when lack of sensuality and not the prettiest, even pretty face but a bit average body. For my standard, she worth 100 for 30/40 mn, but not 200/60 , not wow look enough, same like Sofi. De even she is more sensual for sex, but I m not a rabbit, when I enjoy, 60 or 90 mn are far higher quality for me than too fast 30 mn. Both are on highest level at Sharks, far higher level than ranked here as topgirls, but I have higher level elsewhere in Germany for 130/150 for 1 hour or 200/90 , so why to pay more expensive for lower quality, same than for Globe which fell for quality. Most enjoyable game for me is when girls lower their rate after our discovery and to get their best for lowest rate and no extra asked, when nobody would drive like me to return weekly. When I don t go, busy superstar but asking why I didn t come? If I went to other girls? Enjoyable game when touching emotionnal among busy business.[/QUOTE]So Siri, in your opinion, Optically, you think Maria (Ukr / Shark) is not as pretty as Nadia (Ukr (Ro? OASE) whom you rate very high?
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[QUOTE=David1266;2874202]So Siri, in your opinion, Optically, you think Maria (Ukr / Shark) is not as pretty as Nadia (Ukr (Ro? OASE) whom you rate very high?[/QUOTE]Better sexier body for Nadia who is not Ukrainian, but I prefer real Ukrainian Maria. Nadia would make a riot at Sharks or Globe, but no need to repeat for me.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2874183]Why do you constantly insist of [U]deliberately[/U] misspelling her name? Besides that, she is from Moldova, NOT Romania![/QUOTE]If You believe she is from Chisinau, when I know a bit her friend. But she is one of best quality at Sharks.
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Sena vs Senna
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2874183] [QUOTE=Sirioja;2873597] I agree Sena. Ro is cute, and so far higher level in bed, for less expensive.[/QUOTE] Why do you constantly insist of [U]deliberately[/U] misspelling her name? Besides that, she is from Moldova, NOT Romania![/QUOTE]Senna is Moldovan according to lustscout and HammerTime96.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Senna Mol charges 200/60 according Lustscout.
Sirioja' Romanian Sena charges less expensive. 150/60?
Conclusion: Siri Sena is NOT the Senna we referred.
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How much is a taxi from Sharks to FRA airport?
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[QUOTE=PinballMachine;2874299]How much is a taxi from Sharks to FRA airport?[/QUOTE]Around 60 euro one way.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2874282]Senna is Moldovan according to lustscout and HammerTime96.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Senna Mol charges 200/60 according Lustscout.
Sirioja' Romanian Sena charges less expensive. 150/60?
Conclusion: Siri Sena is NOT the Senna we referred.[/QUOTE]Sena / Senna as You prefer and keep on drinking all what girls say. Moldavia is Republic of Moldavia, Chisinau, Richnau. Iasie is in Romania. Yes, can read on lustcout how some there overpay like You, some Germans paying crazy when they are in love. Once again, no girl at Sharks have look, image and level in bed to worth 200/60 , since this Summer when German snow white left and I paid her 200/90 for her exceptionnal freshness as a part timer.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2874226]If You believe she is from Chisinau, when I know a bit her friend. But she is one of best quality at Sharks.[/QUOTE]And same for Sabrina and Alina, from north east part of Romania, around Iasie. But no matter if Romanian on ID, when girls from Republic of Moldavia couldn't get registration. Since my Freubad Summer 2022 wow girl, I miss to find a elegant natural Romanian beauty when I taught her my GFE and she followed me when she was wild in garden before discovery.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2874282]Senna is Moldovan according to lustscout and HammerTime96.
[URL]https://www.lustscout.to/forum/showthread.php?tid=194769&highlight=Senna[/URL]
Senna Mol charges 200/60 according Lustscout.
Sirioja' Romanian Sena charges less expensive. 150/60?
Conclusion: Siri Sena is NOT the Senna we referred.[/QUOTE]I will probably add to the confusion but I have been with Senna from Moldova and she charged me 150 for an hour.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2874433]I will probably add to the confusion but I have been with Senna from Moldova and she charged me 150 for an hour.[/QUOTE]From Moldavian part of Romania, but I agree for normal rate, when our room was for 100/60 on 2021 and another french used to pay more expensive. We don't all pay same with some girls.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2874433]I will probably add to the confusion but I have been with Senna from Moldova and she charged me 150 for an hour.[/QUOTE]Yes exactly, the 'French Poet' is just spreading more gibberish world salad confusion, as always.
She gives great service, and after sex we usually smoke one of her Moldavian cigarettes.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2874441]Yes exactly, the 'French Poet' is just spreading more gibberish world salad confusion, as always.
She gives great service, and after sex we usually smoke one of her Moldavian cigarettes.[/QUOTE]Is she the one that sits all the way in the back, behind the bar? Milky white skin, 2 buns in her hair? I think I had her, it started with an S.
I had a great time with her in August, session twice, Maxima twice, and Zoe twice. I only paid 100/30 and 50 extra for cum in mouth, its the only thing I really like to do.
Did she raise her rates for everyone? Or did you get suckered? Sorry not trying to be mean, I always have to be careful, I get fucked over being Asian. Not sure which girl, she always sits at the stripper pole, wanted to charge me 150/30 and she kept asking to room, told her no.
Sena offer me a cig before rooming, she would offer when we chat. Very nice gesture. Does anybody know the name of a very tall German blonde? Not Zoe, nor the other German girl that sits at the bar, she is very tall like Zoe, she is nice, but I could not understand her name, good service too.
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[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2874591]Is she the one that sits all the way in the back, behind the bar? Milky white skin, 2 buns in her hair? I think I had her, it started with an S.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's her. Senna is a nice girl, always taking her time smoking a cigarette together before we go to the room and chatting a bit, and also a cigarette in the room after sex with some more chatting.
[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2874591]Did she raise her rates for everyone? Or did you get suckered? Sorry not trying to be mean, I always have to be careful, I get fucked over being Asian.[/QUOTE]I pay 150 for 60 minutes. With a girl like her (good GFE) I always book 60 minutes.
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Question on Logistics
I have a quick question on transportation logistics. For the guys going to the club without a car, what's the transportation scenario when you leave at 3 am? How do you guys normally get back to the city (Frankfurt)? Uber, train, walk? I have only been to Artemis in Berlin and I"m planning on doing some FKK visits next month. Just considering the situation when I leave the club at 3 am fully feeling my edible and wondering how the f#%k am I getting home? I assume uber, but reaching out to the mongers for verification.
TIA.
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Cabs are waiting at Sharks.
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Here's what I do to get to Sharks from Frankfurt Central train station
[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2874681]I have a quick question on transportation logistics. For the guys going to the club without a car, what's the transportation scenario when you leave at 3 am? How do you guys normally get back to the city (Frankfurt)? Uber, train, walk? I have only been to Artemis in Berlin and I"m planning on doing some FKK visits next month. Just considering the situation when I leave the club at 3 am fully feeling my edible and wondering how the f#%k am I getting home? I assume uber, but reaching out to the mongers for verification.
TIA.[/QUOTE]I always stay near the train station in Frankfurt and I've been going to Sharks for 10+ years and found it the cheapest and most practical way to get to the club.
Cabs will cost $50-60 each way, plus the entrance fee, so you're already looking at close to $200 just to get to the club and get in. No good!
What I do is I buy a round trip train ticket at the main station for $11 (price might be different now) each way and the express train will get you to the Darmstadt station in 21 minutes with only 2 stops. They run about every 20-30 minutes. If I remember correctly they leave from platform S8 and S9, but that could vary depending on the day.
Once I arrive at the Darmstadt station, I jump into a cab, which takes about 10-12 minutes and will cost you $12-14 Euros. You can walk it but it will take about 25 minutes and in the summer you will get sweaty and in the winter it might be too cold, so a cab is the best option.
Keep Google maps on your phone to track the train times as the last train from Darmstadt station will leave around 1-2 AM depending on the day, weekends will run more trains. If you fail to get back to Darmstadt station before the last train departs for Frankfurt you will be stuck taking a cab.
In the past I've met guys in the club and have shared cabs with them back to Frankfurt, this has helped the cost, but I don't rely on meeting someone who is willing to do this, so I always anticipate the train or cab as a fallback option.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2874441]Yes exactly, the 'French Poet' is just spreading more gibberish world salad confusion, as always.
She gives great service, and after sex we usually smoke one of her Moldavian cigarettes.[/QUOTE]Don t you know, according to 2017 law, girls from Russia, Ukraine, Republic of Moldavia can't get registration number to work in clubs? When these girls like you, they don't tell they are or return to Chisinau. We experience from what we are with girls, I don't smoke because not good for cardio and blood pressure. I confirm pretty sure available for normal Caucasians for 150/60 .
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[QUOTE=David1266;2866612]Thanks very much Siri. I added more. - I didn't know that Alina / Sabrina are still working (from World, right?) I thought they retired.
- Although some claim Maria is a "real" Ukranian, I am not sure. Ukranian is the third-largest minority group in Romania. She maybe grew up in Romania?
- I want to find this Sofi / Sophie. Where is she located?
The reason why the location is important is that, the popular girls are in room with customer most of the time, and they sit for a few minutes and next customer grab them. Unless you know where to look, it's extremely difficult to catch them.
Top quality Girls (at least by some people).
Roxy (couch under Fish tank).
Katalea (close to ex kino).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina / Sena (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Brenda (RO, between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance).
Camilla ((near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Cami and Sirin (back of the bar, between TV display and back stairs, looking from the entrance).
Lora (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen).
Kitty (RO, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank).
Kloe (near stairs).
Maria (Ukrainian?, left side of stairs to jacuzzi).
Sofi or Sophie (DE, unknown location).
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty).
Average and below.
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).[/QUOTE]Wow, if we only had a floorplan, we'd have a nice map.
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There's a girl with olive skin and natural blue eyes which is a very rare combination to exist. She sits at chairs next to the wallet lockers.
Any reports on her?
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[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2874681]I have a quick question on transportation logistics. For the guys going to the club without a car, what's the transportation scenario when you leave at 3 am? How do you guys normally get back to the city (Frankfurt)? Uber, train, walk? I have only been to Artemis in Berlin and I"m planning on doing some FKK visits next month. Just considering the situation when I leave the club at 3 am fully feeling my edible and wondering how the f#%k am I getting home? I assume uber, but reaching out to the mongers for verification.
TIA.[/QUOTE]First train is at 3.35 am. What I normally do if I am staying late is to take a cab from Sharks to Darmstadt station (13 euros) at 3.15am, buy a ticket and wait for the 3.35 am S3 train to Frankfurt. It will normally already be at platform 3 waiting, as this train starts from Darmstadt. So, you will be warm.
If you need to have a quick nap while waiting for 3am, there are many comfortable deck chairs that can be made flat in the jacuzzi area. And 2 especially comfortable large ones right at the top of the stairs, that I normally go to sleep on. Girls normally do not go up there at that hour to disturb me
Though sometimes there are rowdy drunk Turks in the jacuzzi whose noise keep me awake.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2874734]......Once I arrive at the Darmstadt station, I jump into a cab, which takes about 10-12 minutes and will cost you $12-14 Euros. You can walk it but it will take about 25 minutes and in the summer you will get sweaty and in the winter it might be too cold, so a cab is the best option.......[/QUOTE]You can also take the bus from the train station to Sharks. It will cost a lot less than taxi.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2874934]You can also take the bus from the train station to Sharks. It will cost a lot less than taxi.[/QUOTE]It's the "R" bus.
The last time I went, I noticed that you can buy your train ticket to include the bus and it seemed to cost the same. Then you don't have to buy a separate bus ticket after getting off the train.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2874734]I always stay near the train station in Frankfurt and I've been going to Sharks for 10+ years and found it the cheapest and most practical way to get to the club.
Cabs will cost $50-60 each way, plus the entrance fee, so you're already looking at close to $200 just to get to the club and get in. No good!
What I do is I buy a round trip train ticket at the main station for $11 (price might be different now) each way and the express train will get you to the Darmstadt station in 21 minutes with only 2 stops. They run about every 20-30 minutes. If I remember correctly they leave from platform S8 and S9, but that could vary depending on the day.
Once I arrive at the Darmstadt station, I jump into a cab, which takes about 10-12 minutes and will cost you $12-14 Euros. You can walk it but it will take about 25 minutes and in the summer you will get sweaty and in the winter it might be too cold, so a cab is the best option.
Keep Google maps on your phone to track the train times as the last train from Darmstadt station will leave around 1-2 AM depending on the day, weekends will run more trains. If you fail to get back to Darmstadt station before the last train departs for Frankfurt you will be stuck taking a cab.
In the past I've met guys in the club and have shared cabs with them back to Frankfurt, this has helped the cost, but I don't rely on meeting someone who is willing to do this, so I always anticipate the train or cab as a fallback option.[/QUOTE]And if you go directly from FRA airport to Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2874934]You can also take the bus from the train station to Sharks. It will cost a lot less than taxi.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys for covering this in detail!
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2874987]It's the "R" bus.
The last time I went, I noticed that you can buy your train ticket to include the bus and it seemed to cost the same. Then you don't have to buy a separate bus ticket after getting off the train.[/QUOTE]I just buy the train ticket and that covers the bus. At least that is how I understand it. I've never seen an option for adding a bus ticket to a train ticket and that has confused me. For example: I bought a ticket to Darmstadt in the morning to go later in the evening, and then in the afternoon took a bus from the Frankfurt HBH to some random place. I don't really know if that covers it or not but that is what I've been doing.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2874734]I always stay near the train station in Frankfurt and I've been going to Sharks for 10+ years and found it the cheapest and most practical way to get to the club.
Cabs will cost $50-60 each way, plus the entrance fee, so you're already looking at close to $200 just to get to the club and get in. No good!
What I do is I buy a round trip train ticket at the main station for $11 (price might be different now) each way and the express train will get you to the Darmstadt station in 21 minutes with only 2 stops. They run about every 20-30 minutes. If I remember correctly they leave from platform S8 and S9, but that could vary depending on the day.
Once I arrive at the Darmstadt station, I jump into a cab, which takes about 10-12 minutes and will cost you $12-14 Euros. You can walk it but it will take about 25 minutes and in the summer you will get sweaty and in the winter it might be too cold, so a cab is the best option.
Keep Google maps on your phone to track the train times as the last train from Darmstadt station will leave around 1-2 AM depending on the day, weekends will run more trains. If you fail to get back to Darmstadt station before the last train departs for Frankfurt you will be stuck taking a cab.
In the past I've met guys in the club and have shared cabs with them back to Frankfurt, this has helped the cost, but I don't rely on meeting someone who is willing to do this, so I always anticipate the train or cab as a fallback option.[/QUOTE]I don't think the S3 train that leaves from S8 and S9 platform is Express. The faster train is the RE67/68 and has some sort of final destination like Heidelberg or something. I took the S3 after the 67 got cancelled and the S3 took an hour to get to Darmstadt.
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S3
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2875110]I don't think the S3 train that leaves from S8 and S9 platform is Express. The faster train is the RE67/68 and has some sort of final destination like Heidelberg or something. I took the S3 after the 67 got cancelled and the S3 took an hour to get to Darmstadt.[/QUOTE]The usual S3 takes 35 minutes and they are usually punctual. There is, however, one particular S3 service that does a loop serving many small towns between Darmstadt and Frankfurt and thus taking 1 hour, but it is not common. This S3 runs at a time that is different from the normal S3 (which runs every 30 minutes). I once missed the normal S3 and was overjoyed to see another S3 just about 10 minutes later. Cost me 1 hour of my time when I was in a hurry. Nice tour of small German villages though.
The RB trains, while faster, very often run late, or get cancelled, or get stuck just before Langen.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2874862]There's a girl with olive skin and natural blue eyes which is a very rare combination to exist. She sits at chairs next to the wallet lockers.
Any reports on her?[/QUOTE]Because she wants to be first for the money.
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[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2875106]I just buy the train ticket and that covers the bus. At least that is how I understand it. I've never seen an option for adding a bus ticket to a train ticket and that has confused me. For example: I bought a ticket to Darmstadt in the morning to go later in the evening, and then in the afternoon took a bus from the Frankfurt HBH to some random place. I don't really know if that covers it or not but that is what I've been doing.[/QUOTE]LOL, I won't pretend to understand the complicated german public transit system.
First time going to sharks, I recall I used the app to buy a train ticked from frankfurt to darmstadt. Then, once arriving I'd lookup the bus and bought a ticket for the bus on the app. Second time, I noticed on the app, if I typed in the full route, it was the same price so I did that. I don't know if this meant that the train ticket would just work on the bus. That sort of thing is difficult to figure out since no one checks. I just know if I book the whole route, I'm definitely covered. If I could read german, the train and "train+bus" ticket probably look the same and just say they cover the same zone.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2875176]....... That sort of thing is difficult to figure out since no one checks......[/QUOTE]From my many years of travelling on the German trains I have seen officials check for tickets an average of twice per week randomly. Of my many years of taking the bus to Sharks an official checked tickets on the bus only once. Similarly, of the many years travelling on the trams throughout Frankfurt I saw an official checking tickets only once.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2875176]LOL, I won't pretend to understand the complicated german public transit system.
First time going to sharks, I recall I used the app to buy a train ticked from frankfurt to darmstadt. Then, once arriving I'd lookup the bus and bought a ticket for the bus on the app. Second time, I noticed on the app, if I typed in the full route, it was the same price so I did that. I don't know if this meant that the train ticket would just work on the bus. That sort of thing is difficult to figure out since no one checks. I just know if I book the whole route, I'm definitely covered. If I could read german, the train and "train+bus" ticket probably look the same and just say they cover the same zone.[/QUOTE]The system uses zones. The only exclusions are often the ICE trains So yes. If you pick the end location the price is often the same as picking just the Hbf / main train station.
And if you're around a couple days the multiple day tickets are an amazing savings.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2875242]From my many years of travelling on the German trains I have seen officials check for tickets an average of twice per week randomly. Of my many years of taking the bus to Sharks an official checked tickets on the bus only once. Similarly, of the many years travelling on the trams throughout Frankfurt I saw an official checking tickets only once.[/QUOTE]I did not suggest that no checks existed, I was saying that you aren't asked every time like in other countries so if you made an error And boarded with the wrong ticket, it wouldn't be immediately obvious.
[QUOTE=Tintin1;2875278]The system uses zones. The only exclusions are often the ICE trains So yes. If you pick the end location the price is often the same as picking just the Hbf / main train station.
And if you're around a couple days the multiple day tickets are an amazing savings.[/QUOTE]Yep! I plan to do a day ticket this time (if I go).
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Not sure about the train number but the express train to Darmstadt takes 21 minutes
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2875110]I don't think the S3 train that leaves from S8 and S9 platform is Express. The faster train is the RE67/68 and has some sort of final destination like Heidelberg or something. I took the S3 after the 67 got cancelled and the S3 took an hour to get to Darmstadt.[/QUOTE]Ya, I'm probably wrong about the train number and platform, but the fastest train to Darmstadt station is the one that has only 2 stops before Darmstadt and takes approximately 21 minutes. I've taken it many times over the years. It's a little more expensive (10-12 Euro each way) than the regular train, but it saves you time! This train will run all day and until about 2 am, maybe later, just check the schedule in the Apple or Google maps app.
The best thing you can do is open Apple maps or Google maps on your phone and map Frankfurt to Darmstadt, selecting the train (icon) method of travel. This will show you the train numbers and even the platforms at the station. Then just go to the ticketing office and purchase your ticket.
Opinion. As much as I like Sharks, it's expensive. With the cost of travel (21 Euro for 2 train tickets, 25 Euro for 2 cabs, 60 Euro entrance) plus the entrance fee, you've already spent 100+ Euro just to get into the club. My favorite club in Frankfurt is Mainhatten, not because of the quantity of girls but because it's more laid back, great kino, decent food, good wellness, and you can walk (takes 1+ hrs but it's right through the heart of downtown with shops and stores) or take the above ground tram for 2. 30 Euro from across the street from the main station right to the club (exit Industryhoff) and walk about 150 meters.
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Racist remarks at rhe club
This is my first post in ISG but I think it is necessary to aware people here about the bad staff at this club and their racist remarks. I am American Chinese and I visit the club every 2 months for a week. I had a issue with a girl in the room and complained to the reception. I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.
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Darmstadt Nord
There is another train station in Darmstadt, Darmstadt Nord which is one stop from Frankfurt and then a 15 minute walk to Sharks. The trains aren't as frequent as to Darmstadt HBF.
The cheapest and easiest thing to do is to just stay in Darmstadt.
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Micaela Schäfer Party
There was a party last Saturday in Sharks with some German model / porn star Micaela Schfer. It was particularly bad, there was a DJ playing shit loud music then she did a "show" at the top of the stairs on the back which was her playing some more loud music and taking her top off.
There are 100+ naked girls in Sharks most of which we are more attractive than she was, she literally didn't bring anything to the party.
For the first time in my recent memory they ran out of locker keys at the front desk so unfortunately it might be repeated. I read in Germany a lot of people get a bonus in December of another months salary so suspect that was more the reason for the large attendance.
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Racist Club / Chinese insulted
I am an American Chinese and I go to sharks every year three times for a week. This time I got a really insulting racist behaviour from reception and guards so I thought about asking in this forum as my first post. Has anyone got the same behaviour for being Chinese? I don't know ifi should share my story or not.
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[QUOTE=Tintin1;2875278]The system uses zones. The only exclusions are often the ICE trains So yes. If you pick the end location the price is often the same as picking just the Hbf / main train station.
And if you're around a couple days the multiple day tickets are an amazing savings.[/QUOTE]I will definitely buy a multiple day ticket next time. I used the ticket machines. I did use google apps this time around and it was beneficial. I am wondering if a multiple day ticket would cover all my journeys to both Sharks and Oase and around Frankfurt. I have wasted money by not using the most economical options.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2875466]There was a party last Saturday in Sharks with some German model / porn star Micaela Schfer. It was particularly bad, there was a DJ playing shit loud music then she did a "show" at the top of the stairs on the back which was her playing some more loud music and taking her top off.
There are 100+ naked girls in Sharks most of which we are more attractive than she was, she literally didn't bring anything to the party.
For the first time in my recent memory they ran out of locker keys at the front desk so unfortunately it might be repeated. I read in Germany a lot of people get a bonus in December of another months salary so suspect that was more the reason for the large attendance.[/QUOTE]Oase was busy that night with their party but probably not that busy. I think I might have made the right choice from your description for that evening. It was toss up for me.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2875388]Ya, I'm probably wrong about the train number and platform, but the fastest train to Darmstadt station is the one that has only 2 stops before Darmstadt and takes approximately 21 minutes. I've taken it many times over the years. It's a little more expensive (10-12 Euro each way) than the regular train, but it saves you time! This train will run all day and until about 2 am, maybe later, just check the schedule in the Apple or Google maps app.
The best thing you can do is open Apple maps or Google maps on your phone and map Frankfurt to Darmstadt, selecting the train (icon) method of travel. This will show you the train numbers and even the platforms at the station. Then just go to the ticketing office and purchase your ticket.
Opinion. As much as I like Sharks, it's expensive. With the cost of travel (21 Euro for 2 train tickets, 25 Euro for 2 cabs, 60 Euro entrance) plus the entrance fee, you've already spent 100+ Euro just to get into the club. My favorite club in Frankfurt is Mainhatten, not because of the quantity of girls but because it's more laid back, great kino, decent food, good wellness, and you can walk (takes 1+ hrs but it's right through the heart of downtown with shops and stores) or take the above ground tram for 2. 30 Euro from across the street from the main station right to the club (exit Industryhoff) and walk about 150 meters.[/QUOTE]This is slightly off topic but I had a hot spinner offer me anal in the RLD for 100 euro. I thought that was a bargain. I had two lackluster experiences there but the women were hot in my eyes. The third one renewed my faith in trying it. They are still offering sex for 30 euro there. With one of them I offered 50 to get better service but communication was not the best. The anal for 100 was great though. I would pick some of the women in the RLD district over all the women in Sharks sometimes.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]I visit the club [b]every 2 months for a week[/b].I had an issue with a girl in .. 200/30 min. . . I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. . . .[/QUOTE]You are such [B]regular visitor [/B]and still hoaxed by girls?
Your failed to mention 200/30 for which girl and what kind of service. So your post didn't help anyone to avoid trap.
I paid 200/60 to girls but Siriojastill blamed me.
While you paid 200/30 to a girl, your behavior would upset and irritate Siri and lots other mongers because you hike price to 200/30. They only want to pay 50/30.
Racism is a sensitive topic. You should go to other forums to discuss. We here only talk about monger's sex actives.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.[/QUOTE]Very sorry to hear this, are you able to share what the issue was? I've never gone to reception before but most of the stories I heard they side with the client not the girl. Even if your complaint wasn't justified there is no excuse for racist remarks.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]This is my first post in ISG but I think it is necessary to aware people here about the bad staff at this club and their racist remarks. I am American Chinese and I visit the club every 2 months for a week. I had a issue with a girl in the room and complained to the reception. I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.[/QUOTE]I made a deal with the girl, I forgot the name but sits on the front of the bar after entrance for 200/30 min with full GFE. Then in the room she refused kissing and after 15 minutes told me the time was up. Then I complained at the reception only to get the racist words towards my community. I am done with the club and these racist idiots.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]This is my first post in ISG but I think it is necessary to aware people here about the bad staff at this club and their racist remarks. I am American Chinese and I visit the club every 2 months for a week. I had a issue with a girl in the room and complained to the reception. I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.[/QUOTE]A few things:
1. What issue did you have with the girl in the room?
2. Pick your battles wisely. Dying on a hill over 100 euros, at the risk of being insulted or kicked out, is not worth the trouble. If you agreed to a price, then you honor it. For example, the French chick is a scam artist (horrible service) but I ate the bullet and paid what I agreed to pay.
3. If you get offended easily, then again, choose your battles wisely.
4. I've seen plenty of Asian, African, Turkish, etc. men in Sharks with zero issues. I've seen plenty of fat, old, and ugly men too, zero issues.
P.S. I'm black, never had any issue after dozens of trips there. I dont want any drama and I'm not fighting on any hills over 100 euros when I paid 10x that just to fly there. I just dont think trying to start a crusade to prevent Asians from going to sharks is the right idea.
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[QUOTE=Rocko20;2875592]A few things:
1. What issue did you have with the girl in the room?
2. Pick your battles wisely. Dying on a hill over 100 euros, at the risk of being insulted or kicked out, is not worth the trouble. If you agreed to a price, then you honor it. For example, the French chick is a scam artist (horrible service) but I ate the bullet and paid what I agreed to pay.
3. If you get offended easily, then again, choose your battles wisely.
4. I've seen plenty of Asian, African, Turkish, etc. men in Sharks with zero issues. I've seen plenty of fat, old, and ugly men too, zero issues.
P.S. I'm black, never had any issue after dozens of trips there. I dont want any drama and I'm not fighting on any hills over 100 euros when I paid 10x that just to fly there. I just dont think trying to start a crusade to prevent Asians from going to sharks is the right idea.[/QUOTE]Here the matter is not 100 Euros, its about the racist behaviour. I cannot accept it.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]This is my first post in ISG but I think it is necessary to aware people here about the bad staff at this club and their racist remarks. I am American Chinese and I visit the club every 2 months for a week. I had a issue with a girl in the room and complained to the reception. I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Long420;2875507]I am an American Chinese and I go to sharks every year three times for a week. This time I got a really insulting racist behaviour from reception and guards so I thought about asking in this forum as my first post. Has anyone got the same behaviour for being Chinese? I don't know ifi should share my story or not.[/QUOTE]A brand new account posting claims of of anti-Chinese racism!? Hmm, haven't we heard this before? Ah wait, I know:
[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2847544]I heard that a group of Asians were assaulted upon leaving Sharks late Sunday / early Monday morning in the parking lot. The assailants were masked men. In addition, what is really disturbing is Sharks security / bodyguards also participated in the attack.
Can somebody please confirm? If true and you are Asian, please be careful out there. There's really no place for Asian Hate. We see enough Asian Hate in America.[/QUOTE]Remember that strange post from a few months ago when supposedly some Chinese male guests were attacked by masked men in the parking lot and Sharks security even joined the attackers? Same pattern, same invented bullshit.
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2875466]There was a party last Saturday in Sharks with some German model / porn star Micaela Schfer. It was particularly bad, there was a DJ playing shit loud music then she did a "show" at the top of the stairs on the back which was her playing some more loud music and taking her top off.[/QUOTE]Yup, you made another typical beginner's mistake: never visit any club during a 'party. ' This has been discussed here a million times before.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2875592]A few things:
1. What issue did you have with the girl in the room?
[/QUOTE]Excellent question, zero context provided.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2875592]A few things:
2. Pick your battles wisely. Dying on a hill over 100 euros, at the risk of being insulted or kicked out, is not worth the trouble. If you agreed to a price, then you honor it. For example, the French chick is a scam artist (horrible service) but I ate the bullet and paid what I agreed to pay.
[/QUOTE]I don't quite agree, I've sometimes seen men complaining at the reception but I've NEVER seen security get involved. It's always the reception ladies who handle those issues, but I can imagine that the girls at the reception call security if the guy is a completely uncivilized, rude, drunk, and aggressive asshole. On the other hand, we as customer don't have to accept everything, and if the situation was really bad (WG refusing to provide any service) and many customers complain about this particular girl then she can get kicked out from Sharks.
[QUOTE=Rocko20;2875592]
4. I've seen plenty of Asian, African, Turkish, etc. men in Sharks with zero issues. I've seen plenty of fat, old, and ugly men too, zero issues.
P.S. I'm black, never had any issue after dozens of trips there. I dont want any drama and I'm not fighting on any hills over 100 euros when I paid 10x that just to fly there. I just dont think trying to start a crusade to prevent Asians from going to sharks is the right idea.[/QUOTE]Exactly, many many many people from LOTS of different cultural backgrounds and it's never a problem. A little while ago I met a nice guy from the US who was originally from Africa, and he told me that he had a great time.
In March-April I met some Chinese guys and although they complained about the high prices, they were polite and never mentioned anything about racism from WGs or Sharks management:
[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2819697]
P.S. Funny anecdote: about 1 month ago I was chilling upstairs and I was approached by a small group of 6-7 really nice Chinese visitors who asked me what the prices were. I told them: "it used to be 50430, but now most girls demand 100430" and they were completely stunned. It turns out that the last time they were in Sharks was in 2019 and they were used to paying 50430 and thought that they were suddenly getting ripped off or refused by girls just because they were foreigners. They spent the whole afternoon and evening walking around, sitting around, smoking cigarettes and chatting to each other, and I'm pretty sure that nearly all of the guys in that group left Sharks unfucked that night. So finally some of the Asians are now waking up to the fact that they are getting ripped off by this 100430 and are refusing (or are unable) to pay these crazy prices. Now I guess we just need to wait for the Japanese and the Gringos to wake up, and then things can slowly return to normal again in FKK Land.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875570]I made a deal with the girl, I forgot the name but sits on the front of the bar after entrance for 200/30 min with full GFE. Then in the room she refused kissing and after 15 minutes told me the time was up. Then I complained at the reception only to get the racist words towards my community. I am done with the club and these racist idiots.[/QUOTE]Any girl you accept to pay such a price for only 30 min will immediately understand that you are an easy pray. She will therefore not deliver and will be pretty much certain you will still pay the ridiculous price. I would advice indeed to stay away from the club and let people who don't overpay have fun. Thank you.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875570]I made a deal with the girl, I forgot the name but sits on the front of the bar after entrance for 200/30 min with full GFE. Then in the room she refused kissing and after 15 minutes told me the time was up. Then I complained at the reception only to get the racist words towards my community. I am done with the club and these racist idiots.[/QUOTE]Girls sitting at the bar facing entry are among the worst and asking the most expensive. They sit at this place because they have quite slow business, trying to be in good position.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2875558]You are such [B]regular visitor [/B]and still hoaxed by girls?
Your failed to mention 200/30 for which girl and what kind of service. So your post didn't help anyone to avoid trap.
I paid 200/60 to girls but Siriojastill blamed me.
While you paid 200/30 to a girl, your behavior would upset and irritate Siri and lots other mongers because you hike price to 200/30. They only want to pay 50/30.
Racism is a sensitive topic. You should go to other forums to discuss. We here only talk about monger's sex actives.[/QUOTE]No, you do what you want with your money as I do with mine, but we have very different standards for quality and value. Once again, can find really attractive and super GFE really fkissing German escorts for less than 200/60 when you make them cum.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875507]I am an American Chinese and I go to sharks every year three times for a week. This time I got a really insulting racist behaviour from reception and guards so I thought about asking in this forum as my first post. Has anyone got the same behaviour for being Chinese? I don't know ifi should share my story or not.[/QUOTE]You made two similar posts with sightly different facts.
I'm sorry American Chinese.
Anyways:
1. I would never think to complain to reception, don't they specifically say what happens between you and a girl isn't their problem?
2. Girls everywhere will try to rip off anyone anywhere regardless of race.
3. As a foreigner, you are always at a disadvantage.
You'll always encounter people who may be racist? Ever try to do this in Japan? They'll turn away Japanese if they don't speak the language well enough.
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They only want to pay 50/30, who wouldn't?
They only want to pay 50/30.
Can you blame us?
For 15 years, from 2002, when brothels were legalized, until 2017 when the German Gov't passed the "Gummi" law all basic service at the 5 clubs around Frankfurt.
Cost 50 Euro for basic service (BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions) and most of the girls allowed pussy licking, some kissing, etc.
Between 2017 and Dec 2023 the girls doubled that price because the 2017 "Gummi" law states that you can't have the club set any price for your service as your an independent contractor not working for the club and you can't provide service without a condom! This allowed the girls to upsell a BBBJ for an extra 50 Euro as a separate service because BBBJ is now "illegal"!
If the prices for BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions increased only moderately to 60-70 Euro, you wouldn't have that many of us complain about the prices. But some girls now want 50 Euro for each and every little extra.
And no need for the other members (Siroja) of this forum to mention clubs outside of Frankfurt that still have 50 Euro rates or the girls that will still work in Sharks for 50 Euro for BBBJ + sex. I'm an active participant of both, but it's now much more limited where you can still get these prices.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2875613]Yup, you made another typical beginner's mistake: never visit any club during a 'party. ' This has been discussed here a million times before.[/QUOTE]How have you come to the conclusion I'm a beginner? I go to Sharks every 2 to 3 weeks but I go on the weekends when Darmstadt 98 are at playing at home as I like to watch football as well. That Saturday was a party unfortunately, I'm not a fan of them although often in Sharks a party is just a bit of extra food and not much else.
I still had a good time, I went with Alina, Sabrina, Catalea & Roxi, not to everyone's tastes I'm sure but that part was good. The party aspect wasn't though, I watched a bit of the "show" and then left soon afterwards. The girls I spoke to on Sunday were all in agreement the music was too loud and it wasn't a good show.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2875658]...because BBBJ is now "illegal"!....[/QUOTE]What happened with that law?
My first visits were before the law. The good old days. Then, I remember reading the law. I'd ask every girl I was interested in about BBBJ (and CIM) and some would do it and some would not. Some for extra, some not. (I usually want CIM because their tiny thick condoms never work out for me. But in times I didn't need it, some would only charge me the base rate).
Then, it was like every girl did it again and would be like "ofcourse" when I asked.
Did the law get repealed?
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[QUOTE=Long420;2875431]This is my first post in ISG but I think it is necessary to aware people here about the bad staff at this club and their racist remarks. I am American Chinese and I visit the club every 2 months for a week. I had a issue with a girl in the room and complained to the reception. I told them I will only pay half of the money I. E 100 euros, orginally fixed 200/30 min. Then the bodyguards came and insulted me. They asked me to pay the full amount. I was a little angry and they insulted me and made racist remarks like you fucking Chinese and used bad words. This club is not for Chinese looking people. They threated me and made me feel bad because of my look. I paid 200 Euros to the girl and left the club. I am not going there anymore and want to warn Chinese looking to be aware as they are racists.[/QUOTE]I am sorry this happened, but you cannot accuse them of racism. Did you see how many Asian people are welcomed and having a good time every single day? It's not your race, but your behavior was the problem. If you said 200, you have to pay full price. Bring a watch and discuss what 30 minutes means before the session. Some girls think 30 minutes starts from the lounge and end at the wallet locker, so it's like 15-20 min in the room (This really depends on girls, that's why you should discuss). Also, every guy knows that most girls overstate the level of their "GFE" service, but it's part of the game. Finally, this is a brothel, not a 5 star hotel. Most girls and employee are very poorly educated and they may use the words filled with prejudice. If you don't like this type of environment, you shouldn't visit here in the first place.
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This is simple, don't over analyze it.
Apparently the bouncer addressed him using a racist term. If someone calls him a "chink" or whatever, that's a racist act virtually by definition.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2875658]They only want to pay 50/30.
Can you blame us?
For 15 years, from 2002, when brothels were legalized, until 2017 when the German Gov't passed the "Gummi" law all basic service at the 5 clubs around Frankfurt.
Cost 50 Euro for basic service (BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions) and most of the girls allowed pussy licking, some kissing, etc.
Between 2017 and Dec 2023 the girls doubled that price because the 2017 "Gummi" law states that you can't have the club set any price for your service as your an independent contractor not working for the club and you can't provide service without a condom! This allowed the girls to upsell a BBBJ for an extra 50 Euro as a separate service because BBBJ is now "illegal"!
If the prices for BBBJ + sex in 2-3 positions increased only moderately to 60-70 Euro, you wouldn't have that many of us complain about the prices. But some girls now want 50 Euro for each and every little extra.
And no need for the other members (Siroja) of this forum to mention clubs outside of Frankfurt that still have 50 Euro rates or the girls that will still work in Sharks for 50 Euro for BBBJ + sex. I'm an active participant of both, but it's now much more limited where you can still get these prices.[/QUOTE]Til 15 March 2020 , usual rate at Sharks including BBBJ, DATY, better fkissing than most little Romanians now, fucking, was for 100/30 and was still very usual on 2021 , with Sena, Daisi. De. 2017 law was just a joke, except for registration, but still fkissing, BBBJ, even AO, on business. Rates really exploded at Sharks on 2022 , now the place to fuck tourists and bad value for money with going down quality for looks. Pity when staff made a lot of works to improve, but much better values for girls elsewhere in Germany and even around FRA. I thought these higher rates would attract top girls from escorting which is not so good in Germany, but same than at Globe since few years, no escort profiles except Sofi, but average girls coming for big money, many mostly warming ass with slow business, when not tourist in mind won t pay more expensive for lower quality.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2875688]I am sorry this happened, but you cannot accuse them of racism. Did you see how many Asian people are welcomed and having a good time every single day? It's not your race, but your behavior was the problem. If you said 200, you have to pay full price. Bring a watch and discuss what 30 minutes means before the session. Some girls think 30 minutes starts from the lounge and end at the wallet locker, so it's like 15-20 min in the room (This really depends on girls, that's why you should discuss). Also, every guy knows that most girls overstate the level of their "GFE" service, but it's part of the game. Finally, this is a brothel, not a 5 star hotel. Most girls and employee are very poorly educated and they may use the words filled with prejudice. If you don't like this type of environment, you shouldn't visit here in the first place.[/QUOTE]I want to tell you, its not about the money. You would know what am I talking about if you look different in a community and you are insulted and hated the way you look. The racism is not acceptable at all.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2875671]What happened with that law?
My first visits were before the law. The good old days. Then, I remember reading the law. I'd ask every girl I was interested in about BBBJ (and CIM) and some would do it and some would not. Some for extra, some not. (I usually want CIM because their tiny thick condoms never work out for me. But in times I didn't need it, some would only charge me the base rate).
Then, it was like every girl did it again and would be like "ofcourse" when I asked.
Did the law get repealed?[/QUOTE]2017 law was just a joke, go to Aldi Dietz. Only registration work: No Russian, nor Ukrainian, nor from real Moldavia, just fallen from Tupolev can work in FKK, when some believe so much and think so few. Of course, some girls may feel Moldavian from roots, but what is written on ID, to get registration which is only for EU.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2875667]How have you come to the conclusion I'm a beginner?[/QUOTE]Perhaps because you seemed totally surprised that it's a big sausage fest during a weekend when there is a party, and that this party usually sucks big time? Come on, [U]everybody[/U] knows that FKK parties suck: long waiting times for rooms, many men in a very crowded main room, packed and dirty locker room, many mediocre women trying their luck. During the summer it's bearable because you can escape into the garden, but during the winter time it's pure masochism to visit, LOL!
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2875466]There was a party last Saturday in Sharks with some German model / porn star Micaela Schfer. It was particularly bad, there was a DJ playing shit loud music then she did a "show" at the top of the stairs on the back which was her playing some more loud music and taking her top off.[/QUOTE]The loud music I have noticed before during 'normal' weekends a few months ago, when they play some horrible heavy bass rap music. It made the whole club incredibly lethargic, but the incredibly slow bar staff seemed to like it. Thankfully this hasn't been repeated.
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Who is the ARROGANT girl?
Very pretty, wears red and sit at the end of the bar? 2 pigtails, she is very cold to speak to.
I spoke with her and decided she was bad to go with. This was back in August, it will be a few years before I head back, need to recoup some money.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2875631]Any girl you accept to pay such a price for only 30 min will immediately understand that you are an easy pray. She will therefore not deliver and will be pretty much certain you will still pay the ridiculous price. I would advice indeed to stay away from the club and let people who don't overpay have fun. Thank you.[/QUOTE]I think he is referring to the little Romanian girl, the locals have warned me about her.
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Language
[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2875749]Apparently the bouncer addressed him using a racist term. If someone calls him a "chink" or whatever, that's a racist act virtually by definition.[/QUOTE]A lot of the eastern European girls are uneducated and ignorant (why they're prostituting in the first place) and won't hesitate to use racist language. Being "politically correct" never took hold in the east like it did in the west. Thing is they may say something and not even realize they're being offensive to the other person.
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[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2875749]Apparently the bouncer addressed him using a racist term. If someone calls him a "chink" or whatever, that's a racist act virtually by definition.[/QUOTE]One thing that I don't think is over thinking it is that a bouncer's job is to intimidate. He probably adjusts his insults to the individual. I kinda think that children that did not learn that words don't hurt people were given a disservice. The bouncer knows sticks and stones hurt people but words do not. Whether or not to respond to an insult can be situational. If you are a mob boss and a subordinate insults you that may be grounds for acting. If your boss insults you whether or not you respond could depend on societal support or how much you need your job. If you are a mechanic and someone calls you a liar you probably only get upset if you are one or you don't value your costumer. It is really kinda ridiculous if you over think it.
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[QUOTE=BbfsOnly;2875790]I think he is referring to the little Romanian girl, the locals have warned me about her.[/QUOTE]The club is full of little Romanian girls.
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Words
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2875845]One thing that I don't think is over thinking it is that a bouncer's job is to intimidate. He probably adjusts his insults to the individual. I kinda think that children that did not learn that words don't hurt people were given a disservice. The bouncer knows sticks and stones hurt people but words do not. Whether or not to respond to an insult can be situational. If you are a mob boss and a subordinate insults you that may be grounds for acting. If your boss insults you whether or not you respond could depend on societal support or how much you need your job. If you are a mechanic and someone calls you a liar you probably only get upset if you are one or you don't value your costumer. It is really kinda ridiculous if you over think it.[/QUOTE]They matter! And although they may not hurt anybody physically, people are human beings not robots. That means they have emotions and feelings which can't always be suppressed (and shouldn't always be if you ask me). I know of one mean-spirited person who felt like it was OK to say whatever she wanted because she literally couldn't make a person feel a certain way (people are in control of their own emotions). That's true, but that doesn't recognize the way that life really works (we don't operate in a vacuum without reacting to other people), and it's just the rhetoric of people who don't want to be held accountable for their own behavior and the impact they can have on other people. One thing I've noticed in life. When somebody else is slighted, it's easy for other people to say they should just let it go. Let it slide. But then when it's them who feels slighted, all of a sudden they're not following their own advice and get all indignant. Yep, it's not so easy to let it go when it's you who's the target of somebody else's offensive words.
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Disagree
[QUOTE=Enphl;2875847]Also, it's an FKK, not a classy establishment. The chances of encountering someone that is not "politically correct" is much much higher. Paying for sex like this isn't exactly "politically correct" to start with (regardless of what politicians actually do).[/QUOTE]First of all, I don't believe that's true. That you're more likely to meet somebody who's no pc just because it's an FKK. You're letting hypocritical puritan society control how you think about it. That prostitution is always bad. I don't agree. And second, the fact that one is paying for sex has no bearing on how two people choose to treat one other. They can choose to be respectful towards each other or not. The Golden Rule. Treat people how you yourself want to be treated. It works.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2875782]Perhaps because you seemed totally surprised that it's a big sausage fest during a weekend when there is a party.[/QUOTE]I was surprised how shit the loud music was and how bad the show was, wasn't surprised by how busy it was.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2875857]I was surprised how shit the loud music was and how bad the show was, wasn't surprised by how busy it was.[/QUOTE]Pornstars on party are always really not pretty and not only at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2875848]They matter! And although they may not hurt anybody physically, people are human beings not robots. That means they have emotions and feelings which can't always be suppressed (and shouldn't always be if you ask me). I know of one mean-spirited person who felt like it was OK to say whatever she wanted because she literally couldn't make a person feel a certain way (people are in control of their own emotions). That's true, but that doesn't recognize the way that life really works (we don't operate in a vacuum without reacting to other people), and it's just the rhetoric of people who don't want to be held accountable for their own behavior and the impact they can have on other people. One thing I've noticed in life. When somebody else is slighted, it's easy for other people to say they should just let it go. Let it slide. But then when it's them who feels slighted, all of a sudden they're not following their own advice and get all indignant. Yep, it's not so easy to let it go when it's you who's the target of somebody else's offensive words.[/QUOTE]It is also easier to say "let it go" when someone else is the person physically or financially harmed. This could be more about financial harm and being taken advantage of as much as being called a name. That would be the case for me. The name calling would be adding insult to injury. I'm just breaking it down. I think my posts are being rather good. I'm not feeling like the offensive boogy man. I am out more money than this gentleman's situation for being slightly taken advantage of myself. I take responsibility for it and the woman was amazingly good at it. Some of the woman's job is to entice people. I want a woman enticing me. I do congratulate him for standing up to something inappropriate if that actually happened. I think it helps to realize that a bouncer is paid to be intimidating. They are managing a situation. Apparently, they were not siding with this gentleman. Personsally, I suspect the scenario is fabricated because I don't believe everything I read on the internet. That doesn't stop me from analyzing a scenario. I am a hypothetical. I am not a person saying offensive things because words don't matter.
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Say what?
[QUOTE=Enphl;2875945]We'll have to agree to disagree on the first point, (that you are more likely to meet someone who is not "PC" in a FKK / brothel (ie FKK Palace) as compared to a "classy establishment" (ie. Buckingham Palace).[/QUOTE]Really? I [B]cannot[/B] believe you just went there! Seems you don't follow the news my friend. Buckingham Palace "classy" on the matter? Not!
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbtDybAjXAI[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6kiIDBbm64[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Adindas;2875948]If you happen to be an Middle age East/South East Asians, you're often perceived as a lucrative target by the sharks, attracting opportunists aiming to exploit you for monetary gain. The question arises: who perpetuates this stereotype? Blame all of that to the predecessors who create this perception thinking they are in Tokyo, Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Macau, Seoul etc, willing to pay whatever they have been asked to pay. These are the type of people who actually ruin the market. For them it is not a problem as it is only a one off occasion or even once in a lifetime..[/QUOTE]Economically speaking, they are not "ruining the market". In normal free market, it's quite natural that rich buyer pay more than poor buyer, and popular girl get paid more than less popular girl. Supply and Demand determine the price. The fixed price system at low price (50 E /30 mins) for all girls and all men is anti-market and socialism price system. Of course, I prefer 50 E /30 m, but I am also a free market supporter.
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Sharks is decent club
Generally speaking, Sharks is a decent club. I met many Asians friends each time I visited. Overall they enjoyed their experience in Sharks. Some of them might have complaints but most likely related to communication issues with girls or surcharges. None of them were related to so called "racism".
Years ago in 2018 on a Sunday afternoon, I saw front desk lady yelled to a Japanese guy. The guy seemed to speak poor English so front desk woman tried to bully him and told him no way to find a parking if parking lot was full. I then tried to help this Japanese to find a parking space closed to Aldi and walked back to club. This was only one case I saw that club employee was rude to customers.
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Free market capitalism vs anti-market and socialist type practices
[QUOTE=David1266;2875985]Economically speaking, they are not "ruining the market". In normal free market, it's quite natural that rich buyer pay more than poor buyer, and popular girl get paid more than less popular girl. Supply and Demand determine the price. The fixed price system at low price (50 E /30 mins) for all girls and all men is anti-market and socialism price system. Of course, I prefer 50 E /30 m, but I am also a free market supporter.[/QUOTE]No, it's not normal for a rich buyer to pay more for the same good or service, where did you receive your education?
While I'm a free market capitalist, setting a price at the club for the girls is not anti-market or socialist.
If the girls had no options to work at other clubs, and all the clubs set the same price, which they didn't, then there would be (some) anti-market practices and certainly not socialist type rules. Under a socialist type system the club would have taken pay from girls who worked and then redistributed it to other girls that didn't work as much! Or charged one punter more for the same service and then redistributed some of that payment to another man to subsidize his service.
But that's the farthest from the truth, the girls were paid by the men directly and worked at many clubs that charged less and lots of clubs that charged more! That still applies today to clubs around Frankfurt that want $100 and many in NRW that still charge $50.
Some examples: Artemis was $60/30 min, lots of clubs in NRW were $30-40/30 min and clubs in Zurich like Globe charged almost $100/30 min.
Furthermore, setting a standard rate of $50 is fair market competition, not anti-market practices as men will shop around for the cheapest prices, in many cases, but not all. This would be like buying a BMW at different dealerships. All the dealerships are competing for your business and you'll eventually buy from the dealer that has the best price! Or buying a Macbook at the store that has the best deal. Your buying sex as a service and it's the same regardless of where you go. If the girl is prettier than another she has the right to work at Globe and earn $150/30 min instead of $100 at another club or $50 from another.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2876053]No, it's not normal for a rich buyer to pay more for the same good or service, where did you receive your education?
While I'm a free market capitalist, setting a price at the club for the girls is not anti-market or socialist.
If the girls had no options to work at other clubs, and all the clubs set the same price, which they didn't, then there would be (some) anti-market practices and certainly not socialist type rules. Under a socialist type system the club would have taken pay from girls who worked and then redistributed it to other girls that didn't work as much! Or charged one punter more for the same service and then redistributed some of that payment to another man to subsidize his service.
But that's the farthest from the truth, the girls were paid by the men directly and worked at many clubs that charged less and lots of clubs that charged more! That still applies today to clubs around Frankfurt that want $100 and many in NRW that still charge $50.
Some examples: Artemis was $60/30 min, lots of clubs in NRW were $30-40/30 min and clubs in Zurich like Globe charged almost $100/30 min.
Furthermore, setting a standard rate of $50 is fair market competition, not anti-market practices as men will shop around for the cheapest prices, in many cases, but not all. This would be like buying a BMW at different dealerships. All the dealerships are competing for your business and you'll eventually buy from the dealer that has the best price! Or buying a Macbook at the store that has the best deal. Your buying sex as a service and it's the same regardless of where you go. If the girl is prettier than another she has the right to work at Globe and earn $150/30 min instead of $100 at another club or $50 from another.[/QUOTE]Some think expensive mean quality, so they feel better paying expensive, when at Sharks now and Globe since a while, You pay more expensive for lower quality for girls, when again today I paid 150/60 for real GFE with a woman look who wanted to please me to make me return and choose her as number 1 like til June when everybody at GG told: You only go with Valeria. Same like new Audi now which are expensive but shit with Asian electronics, so I preferred to buy the original S5 with V8 from 2008 , but not enough for my standard for quality, so I improved a lot with race techniques and programmed for french E85 to save planet, when Audi make shit to fight vs pollution, but they would not be able to do, when I drove more in less than 1 year than owners before me in 14 years. Each one own standard for quality.
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Girl Map
[QUOTE=Enphl;2874758]Wow, if we only had a floorplan, we'd have a nice map.[/QUOTE]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
TOP QUALITY GIRLS* (Optics, not sex skill, judged by multiple people).
Katalea / Catalea (Sitting at bar, the opposite end from entrance, near Alina / Sabrina / Lora, one of the most popular post-COVID girls).
Kitty (RO, early 20's, white skin / big lip, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank, near Vanessa, less popular in 2023, available most of the times).
Maria (Real Ukrainian, early 20's, location not clear but probably near the bar).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina (RO, 30+, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen);.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance);.
Brenda (between the restaurant and the bar, Left side of the bar, looking from the entrance);.
Camilla (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance).
Cami (Kami) and Sirin (back of the bar looking from the entrance, near Katalea, often playing poker table, near TV display and back stairs).
Lora (RO, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen, around 20, petite, poor English).
Kloe (near stairs);.
Maxima (FR) unknown. Works only short term on August);.
Roxy ("Miss Sharks 2022" by Siri, couch under Fish tank);.
Sofi or Sophie (DE, 30+, unknown location);.
Vanessa, Mara (same location as Kitty);.
Other girls.
Lara (35-40, German, most slim among MILF, blonde / blue eyes, huge skeleton tattoo on back, sitting at bar near the entrance "MILF" section).
Melanie / Emma (late 20's, Ro, at bar near the entrance, Asian hunters, Melanie with eyeglasses, Emma blonde).
Zaira or Xaira (early 20's, peptite white skin type, not so friendly, Sitting at bar near Katalea).
Sophia / Sofia (sitting at bar near Zaira / Victoria, Macedonian, blonde / blue eye, late 20's).
Victoria (sitting next to Zaira / Sofia, blonde, Czech).
Adriana / Lorena / Teodora (couch under aquarium).
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[QUOTE=David1266;2876261]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
TOP QUALITY GIRLS* (Optics, not sex skill, judged by multiple people).
Katalea / Catalea (Sitting at bar, the opposite end from entrance, near Alina / Sabrina / Lora, one of the most popular post-COVID girls).
Kitty (RO, early 20's, white skin / big lip, near center of shark, L-shape couch facing the bar, between the bar and fish tank, near Vanessa, less popular in 2023, available most of the times).
Maria (Real Ukrainian, early 20's, location not clear but probably near the bar).
Above-Average Girls.
Alina / Sabrina (RO, 30+, left side of stairs to jacuzzi, near TV screen);.
Bibi (near the pole dance stage which is on the right side of the bar, near the front stairs, looking from the entrance);.[/QUOTE]Roxi was elected Miss Sharks 2022 by other forum, not by me when I was never with her since I see her before covid. When you see election, seem really not many rank Kity or Bibi as topgirls, when only a look with not much elegance don't worth 200/60 for others than Asian tourists.
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Bibi
Does anybody know if Bibi is still in Sharks or did she already leave for Christmas holidays?
I had very nice rooms with her, although licking and kissing is not possible. But she is really sweet.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2876197]Some think expensive mean quality, so they feel better paying expensive, when at Sharks now and Globe since a while, You pay more expensive for lower quality for girls.....[/QUOTE]There are destinations in which can be found girls who are as good physically as FKK girls and in some cases better. That being said from my experience the German FKKs have the greatest percentage of hot girls compared to other places. However, I think FKKs have priced themselves beyond the realm of reasonable expenditure. I can find girls as hot as FKK girls in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil. For me ethnicity has nothing to do with beauty. If a girl has a pretty face and a shapely, fit and clean body she is hot in my book whatever her ethnicity. In that regard I will choose cheaper destinations in Latin America over Germany.
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Bibi / Samira?
[QUOTE=Toto001;2876387]Does anybody know if Bibi is still in Sharks or did she already leave for Christmas holidays?
I had very nice rooms with her, although licking and kissing is not possible. But she is really sweet.[/QUOTE]Did DATY her on my 150 € I only paid for her low level for around 70 mn trying to get something on woman level from her. Impressive growing pointing hardening nipples for her body reaction was the only interesting, more impressive than hardening Katalea nipples. Angel smile and superb naturals, but not enough to repeat so low level. Even Kity is higher level.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2876435]There are destinations in which can be found girls who are as good physically as FKK girls and in some cases better. That being said from my experience the German FKKs have the greatest percentage of hot girls compared to other places. However, I think FKKs have priced themselves beyond the realm of reasonable expenditure. I can find girls as hot as FKK girls in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil. For me ethnicity has nothing to do with beauty. If a girl has a pretty face and a shapely, fit and clean body she is hot in my book whatever her ethnicity. In that regard I will choose cheaper destinations in Latin America over Germany.[/QUOTE]When Sharks is turning to fuck tourist behavior, but can still find really high level in Germany for 150 for 1 hour which is quite short for my game when I m not a rabbit. I m not into Latinas nor Black, but when I won t be anymore able to free ride I look forward for my Christmas nor to climb legends and I look forward Gavia and Zoncolan on 2024 , then I wish Putin will be over and will still be powerful to go to practice my Russian in cold Irkousk and Ekaterinburg where fire is under ice when You know a bit these prettiest women in the world. I m pretty sure if no Putin and I could go, I would easily manage for 1000 for 1 month with a Siberian beauty, in deep places where only speaking Russian, when Russians are even worst than French for english. Maybe one day I will return to land of beauties and they are very good for my GFE, really kissing like in love when You started their inside fire. Not same than professionnals in Dubaï , when we lost them since Amour Russe, Charme Russe, Sexy Lady 4 U, YDG, Star escorts, Russian girls 4 me and Aphrodite before, in Paris where I got so many, being their first ever client for some.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2876261]I tried to upload a map, but it was deleted by admin. So I write text. This is the latest version.
20, petite, poor English)
Maxima (FR) unknown. Works only short term on August);.
[/QUOTE]While to my knowledge she doesn't sit somewhere in particular, when not doing the rounds she stands at the top of the stairs looking down.
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Being American
[QUOTE=BobNSuzy;2876720]I've never heard someone in the USA Refer to themselves as Chinese American. That sounds like someone outside the USA.[/QUOTE]Well being an American myself, I'm here to tell you that there's absolutely nothing unusual or "suspect" about that at all. Except for Native Americans, we're all considered to have come here from somewhere else. So, we're always within our own country describing ourselves as Chinese-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, African-American, Jewish-American, etc. That's a standard, regular part of American life, and a very "American way" to describe oneself. And when I say "American", I refer specifically to people from the United States. That said, when we travel abroad or present ourselves to the broader world, we normally just say we are "American". In my extensive travels abroad, I've found that so many people have false impressions and misunderstandings about American life and people, and who and what we are, undoubtedly some of that being caused by Americans themselves. But for you to say, "That sounds like someone outside the USA. ", demonstrates that you don't understand, for to an American that sounds [B]exactly[/B] like something an American would say about themselves. Just setting the record straight.
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[QUOTE=TheCane;2875938] Each time these girls said what they said (one a gypsy looking Bulgarian and one a blonde Moldovan), they actually had approached me and wanted to fuck, so it was clear they weren't trying to be offensive. But they were in fact being very offensive per my American culture.[/QUOTE]It's been written about at almost every FKK club. If you see a group of Asians in a FKK the girls will go up to them and be aggressive. 1) they can usually get someone in a group to say yes-often via group encouragement and 2) and reviewers have quoted being charged higher prices.
Like you said, maybe their tone or words appear offensive but the sales technique works. And not just Sharks. There's a similar story on so many FKK forums on this board if you look back far enough. If you don't like it. Move on to the next girl or don't come back. Or use "TheCane" technique as he describes in his post.
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Christmas party?
It seems there is no Christmas party until December 24-26. Whoever has time to go there during the period.
Sharks party used to hold at 2nd weekend in December before Covid.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2876906]It seems there is no Christmas party until December 24-26. Whoever has time to go there during the period.
Sharks party used to hold at 2nd weekend in December before Covid.[/QUOTE]Some party with prosecco on last months, I was at 2 and had 0 room. Should be gay party with be team for Sylvester, for those looking for quality with topgirls without upselling. I should go for else. Since few months, at Sharks and Oase, staff made events. They try, but not helped by their girls for Sharks. After one here, better to be aware about long time girls at the bar on entry side, except maybe Melani and Lexi. All not tourist know, or only if You want to pay expensive to be deeply fucked in ass with no lube.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2876197]Some think expensive mean quality, so they feel better paying expensive,[/QUOTE]So you mean cheap mean quality? No one like to be surcharged, but low price usually means low quality as natural law.
These days, girls hike prices (Under the club's implicit approval), even local Germans have no way to prevent.
Brenda starts to quote 200/60 as basic, some her long term customers told me that. Adriana definitely changes 100/30 200/60 because her little son needs more money to support.
Melanie and Emma charged only 50/30 with excellent service during their prime time (2015-2016), but now ask 200/60 to her long term customers. Some Taiwanese said Emma quotes 250/60 with GFE because she could speak Taiwanese language now. They both are very popular among Taiwanese.
Melanie was Sirioja " Snow White" before.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2874190]Ok thanks. Maybe I'll just go, maybe I'll skip it. I guess I'll see how bored I get on that day. At least I'll get a 40EUR lunch LOL.[/QUOTE]Just reporting back. I ended up going (since my hotel wouldn't let me check in). I arrived around 1:30 pm Monday and there were maybe 15 girls and 15 guys. I left around 3:30, and I think it was closer to 20-25 girls. I'd say maybe 25% were girls I'd never do a session with. Maybe 25% were exceptionally attractive (to me).
It's been a few years. Other thank the locker area and maybe the bar, I didn't recognize much. Last time I went was in the summer so I mainly remember outside. Food was much worse than I remember. Basically breakfast type food. I guess I was there too early, though nothing changed even when I left.
I don't recall all the names of girls I spoke to but none where any of the "top girls" mentioned here. Note were any of the bad ones that I read about either (at least that I could recall. Many girls sat at the bar but I mainly only talked to girls who came to me. I figure if they are too lazy to walk to me, then they may be lazy in other areas. I talked to Joanna, Victoria, Esther, Renata, others I can't remember. I probably would have seen Joanna but she didn't do CIM. I always want the option for CIM since I often have issues with their uncomfortable condoms.
I ended up having a session with Victoria. She quoted 100/30. I ended up paying 150 to include CIM. She took me to the mirror room so that was pretty hot. I thought she was attractive enough. She's looked near 30 so not one of those super young tight types but I thought she had a good body. I liked her boobs. She did pretty much the absolute minimum to count as "GFE". Some kissing with tongue. She gave a decent BBBJ, enough to get me going really quick. However, in the middle she asked if I wanted balls licked and wanted to charge extra for that on top of the CIM charge. That's a big turn off. I usually ask prior but I forgot. I declined. She had no issues with me going pretty hard with doggie. When she was on top, she knew how to move and had me on the edge the whole time. I had the feeling I'd have to pay the extra 50 EUR either way because of the "GFE" so I opted for CIM. It feels better than the condom anyways. She took everything in didn't just stop like most girls. Overall, I had a good experience with her.
Next time I need to plan a better day and have more time there. I just rarely go to Frankfurt other than a quick layover.
Note, I bought the day ticket using the RMV app. I had to specify my route. I noticed on the ticket, the "base area" would be different but the price level was the same. Since no one checked my ticket, I have no idea if it was really valid. Still very easy to take the train and bus to / from.
Also, note, I am Asian and had no issues there. Girls were not aggressive at all. Most were just sitting around, some on their phones.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2876435]There are destinations in which can be found girls who are as good physically as FKK girls and in some cases better. That being said from my experience the German FKKs have the greatest percentage of hot girls compared to other places. However, [b]I think FKKs have priced themselves beyond the realm of reasonable expenditure[/b]. I can find girls as hot as FKK girls in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil. For me ethnicity has nothing to do with beauty. If a girl has a pretty face and a shapely, fit and clean body she is hot in my book whatever her ethnicity. In that regard I will choose cheaper destinations in Latin America over Germany.[/QUOTE]I think maybe you are only considering specifically Hessen, Germany and maybe particularly Sharks. But even including Sharks / Hessen, 150 per hour is still the higher end of the asking prices in all of Germany. 100 h per hour is still available in many areas in Germany. Even at the smaller clubs in Hessen, 50/ half and 100/ HR is still around. Austrian prices have not skyrocketed like Hessen so they've been inflation appropriate I think. My opinion is that girls in Hessen big clubs have been trying to push the price up for quite some time but lots of girls were always available at Sharks up until covid. When decent prices at Sharks finally succumbed, then the Hessen scene really reached the runaway tipping point.
Brazil rates have been floating around 100 per session / hour at the termas right? Mexican clubs are roughly the same but comparable optics make up like maybe 10% of all the girls where most others are short, round potatoes. You can find girls less than that in Colombia but then you have to deal with logistics of getting back to your own hotel room which may cost taxi and hotel guest fee. Factor those in and you'll probably come out the same if not more. Southeast Asia, 100 usd is more and more common right? Same applies regarding logistics of hotel and taxi. Is the "Long time" wife experience for 100 USD in Thailand even a thing anymore?
Side note:
For the western Asian dudes who have "racist" concerns at places like Sharks, don't. The most you'll encounter is the kind of talk you heard from kids in grade school, not actual racism. You'll see more from internet forum dudes than from girls and desk staff at clubs. For example, when a girl tries to get my attention by saying "Ni Hao" or "Konnichiwa," I just wave and say "Buna!" (Hi in Romanian) then all is well.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2877419]Just reporting back. I ended up going (since my hotel wouldn't let me check in). I arrived around 1:30 pm Monday and there were maybe 15 girls and 15 guys. I left around 3:30, and I think it was closer to 20-25 girls. I'd say maybe 25% were girls I'd never do a session with. Maybe 25% were exceptionally attractive (to me).
It's been a few years. Other thank the locker area and maybe the bar, I didn't recognize much. Last time I went was in the summer so I mainly remember outside. Food was much worse than I remember. Basically breakfast type food. I guess I was there too early, though nothing changed even when I left.
I don't recall all the names of girls I spoke to but none where any of the "top girls" mentioned here. Note were any of the bad ones that I read about either (at least that I could recall. Many girls sat at the bar but I mainly only talked to girls who came to me. I figure if they are too lazy to walk to me, then they may be lazy in other areas. I talked to Joanna, Victoria, Esther, Renata, others I can't remember. I probably would have seen Joanna but she didn't do CIM. I always want the option for CIM since I often have issues with their uncomfortable condoms..[/QUOTE]I don't know if Renata was your type or not but if you do decide to visit again and she is there you won't go wrong picking her. She has a compact body with a bit of a hard face but the service she gives is excellent and she is very versatile and open to numerous requests. I've done a few wild things with her and she doesn't charge unreasonable rates.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2877284]So you mean cheap mean quality? No one like to be surcharged, but low price usually means low quality as natural law.
These days, girls hike prices (Under the club's implicit approval), even local Germans have no way to prevent.
Brenda starts to quote 200/60 as basic, some her long term customers told me that. Adriana definitely changes 100/30 200/60 because her little son needs more money to support.
Melanie and Emma charged only 50/30 with excellent service during their prime time (2015-2016), but now ask 200/60 to her long term customers. Some Taiwanese said Emma quotes 250/60 with GFE because she could speak Taiwanese language now. They both are very popular among Taiwanese.
Melanie was Sirioja " Snow White" before.[/QUOTE]Snow white on end of 2015 when she arrived from Finca, no glasses at this time and very different now, when I returned on next week end from Paris for her. When you pay 200/60 for so average level for your topgirls, when I m a foreigner but not a Asian tourist, I prefer to pay 150/60 or less for far higher quality. Each one own standard for quality and value for money.
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Joanna
[QUOTE=Enphl;2877419]
I talked to Joanna, Victoria, Esther, Renata, others I can't remember. I probably would have seen Joanna but she didn't do CIM. I always want the option for CIM since I often have issues with their uncomfortable condoms.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report.
Pity that you require CIM, because Joanna is to me a failsafe bet. I have been with her many times. I did not mention her to you as I would not consider her a 'star' although she has a nice tight body and pretty face.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2877440]I think maybe you are only considering specifically Hessen, Germany and maybe particularly Sharks. But even including Sharks / Hessen, 150 per hour is still the higher end of the asking prices in all of Germany. 100 h per hour is still available in many areas in Germany. Even at the smaller clubs in Hessen, 50/ half and 100/ HR is still around. Austrian prices have not skyrocketed like Hessen so they've been inflation appropriate I think. My opinion is that girls in Hessen big clubs have been trying to push the price up for quite some time but lots of girls were always available at Sharks up until covid. When decent prices at Sharks finally succumbed, then the Hessen scene really reached the runaway tipping point.
Brazil rates have been floating around 100 per session / hour at the termas right? Mexican clubs are roughly the same but comparable optics make up like maybe 10% of all the girls where most others are short, round potatoes. You can find girls less than that in Colombia but then you have to deal with logistics of getting back to your own hotel room which may cost taxi and hotel guest fee. Factor those in and you'll probably come out the same if not more. Southeast Asia, 100 usd is more and more common right? Same applies regarding logistics of hotel and taxi. Is the "Long time" wife experience for 100 USD in Thailand even a thing anymore?
Side note:
For the western Asian dudes who have "racist" concerns at places like Sharks, don't. The most you'll encounter is the kind of talk you heard from kids in grade school, not actual racism. You'll see more from internet forum dudes than from girls and desk staff at clubs. For example, when a girl tries to get my attention by saying "Ni Hao" or "Konnichiwa," I just wave and say "Buna!" (Hi in Romanian) then all is well.[/QUOTE]Same than many think only Globe in Switzerland, many tourist in mind seem to think only Sharks in Germany, when girls ask more expensive for lower quality than on 2021 and I laugh a bit when nobody never told about my 2 Germans since October 2022 , I paid 150/60 and 200/85 when they were my best quality at Sharks since 2022 . For girls, Oase with prettier is better value for money for me and of course far higher quality and value for money in NRW if You are able not to be only a tourist and even if You are foreigner not speaking German, when I refuse to pay expensive for not attractive nor able to behave like a woman in bed. Yes, some Germans now pay really inflated rates like 150/30 or 250/60 or even more for just little Romanians, when I don t pay for little Romanians look or behavior. I miss a elegant Romanian woman type like I got many before, like Hessen superstar Katalina, or Ilka, or Florentina, at Sharks, when was never best place for this profile I look for.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2877440]I think maybe you are only considering specifically Hessen, Germany and maybe particularly Sharks. But even including Sharks / Hessen, 150 per hour is still the higher end of the asking prices in all of Germany. 100 h per hour is still available in many areas in Germany. Even at the smaller clubs in Hessen, 50/ half and 100/ HR is still around. Austrian prices have not skyrocketed like Hessen so they've been inflation appropriate I think. My opinion is that girls in Hessen big clubs have been trying to push the price up for quite some time but lots of girls were always available at Sharks up until covid. When decent prices at Sharks finally succumbed, then the Hessen scene really reached the runaway tipping point.
Brazil rates have been floating around 100 per session / hour at the termas right? Mexican clubs are roughly the same but comparable optics make up like maybe 10% of all the girls where most others are short, round potatoes. You can find girls less than that in Colombia but then you have to deal with logistics of getting back to your own hotel room which may cost taxi and hotel guest fee. Factor those in and you'll probably come out the same if not more. Southeast Asia, 100 usd is more and more common right? Same applies regarding logistics of hotel and taxi. Is the "Long time" wife experience for 100 USD in Thailand even a thing anymore?.......[/QUOTE]Apart from the girls' fees the cost of everything else is cheaper in Latin America and Asia and that includes taxis, food and hotel accommodation. Safety concerns in Latin America is an issue and I do take your point about the possibility of more reasonable pricing outside of Hessen. I will not give up 100% on a future Germany visit but if it does occur I will certainly venture outside of Hessen for 'entertainment'.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2877735]Apart from the girls' fees the cost of everything else is cheaper in Latin America and Asia and that includes taxis, food and hotel accommodation. Safety concerns in Latin America is an issue and I do take your point about the possibility of more reasonable pricing outside of Hessen. I will not give up 100% on a future Germany visit but if it does occur I will certainly venture outside of Hessen for 'entertainment'.[/QUOTE]Not whole Hessen where some bettter values than many Sharks girls.
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Luna
On my last visits, December and August, I meet a luna at sharks.
But I can't find anything about her.
Anyone knows her? Price service etc.
Romania girl, alittle brown maybe 1,60 m without highheels.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2877841]On my last visits, December and August, I meet a luna at sharks.
But I can't find anything about her.
Anyone knows her? Price service etc.
Romania girl, alittle brown maybe 1,60 m without highheels.[/QUOTE]There is a Luna at Sharks since around May, light brown hair, I would say taller than 1,60 bare feet, but I found her ass is not firm enough, same like Teodora, not sexy ass when they walk. Kity has a bit flat, not round enough. Round firm ass without cellulite with good waist ratio is top exciting, dreaming of fucking in doggy like Kate, when I love to fuck and to see girls eyes when I enter, some opening mouth. Funny.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2877497]I don't know if Renata was your type or not but if you do decide to visit again and she is there you won't go wrong picking her. She has a compact body with a bit of a hard face but the service she gives is excellent and she is very versatile and open to numerous requests. I've done a few wild things with her and she doesn't charge unreasonable rates.[/QUOTE]If my memory was correct, I did have a good feeling about here. If I recall she looked a little "older" or like you say a "hard face" so that was a bit of a turn off. Regardless, when I talked to her, I had just finished with victoria.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2877572]Thank you for your report.
Pity that you require CIM, because Joanna is to me a failsafe bet. I have been with her many times. I did not mention her to you as I would not consider her a 'star' although she has a nice tight body and pretty face.[/QUOTE]Unless I've seen the girl before, or even if I have, I can't be 100% sure of how good her performance will be and if it will be enough to get me to finish. I am getting older so it's not as easy anymore.
BBBJ nearly always can get me to finish but without CIM, it's a bit disappointing. The other thing is that most girls bundle in "DFK" or "GFE" with CIM. That usually helps to get be off vs someone that's cold and just very business-like in the session. I have met girls where I initially asked for CIM, and provided a "GFE" session and was enough to have me finish without CIM then NOT charge me the extra 50 at the end. However this is alot more rare these days.
As for Joanna, I noticed her (and victoria next to her) immediately and made eye contact as I walked past. I agree, better body and face than Victoria. After sitting down, she was actually the first girl to come over to me. When I turned down Joanna, she must have told Victoria since she ran over to me about a minute later. Based on how the rest of the room was looking at the time, I figured she was my best bet. There were a few better looking girls at the bar, but I seem to recall not having good luck getting girls from the bar (from any FKK) for some reason.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2877284]
Melanie and Emma charged only 50/30 with excellent service during their prime time (2015-2016), but now ask 200/60 to her long term customers. Some Taiwanese said Emma quotes 250/60 with GFE because she could speak Taiwanese language now. They both are very popular among Taiwanese.
[/QUOTE]Is this the Emma that looks a little like Cara Delevingne? She pudged out after the pandemic but I guess she's in better shape now?
If it's the girl I'm thinking of, she was popular with the Asians. She's gone even deeper into servicing Asians with the Taiwanese language? That's an odd language to choose.
I didn't know so many of the Asian mongers came from Taiwan. I would think Japanese, Chinese or Korean would work better.
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Wife exp thailand for 100
[QUOTE=Turgid;2877735]Apart from the girls' fees the cost of everything else is cheaper in Latin America and Asia and that includes taxis, food and hotel accommodation. Safety concerns in Latin America is an issue and I do take your point about the possibility of more reasonable pricing outside of Hessen. I will not give up 100% on a future Germany visit but if it does occur I will certainly venture outside of Hessen for 'entertainment'.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. Its still availabe in pattaya for sure. The women there are trying to push the prices up as well but I for under 100 american dollars, February this year I had a girl stay with me for almost a few weeks. Was more like $75 dollars. Young 27 year old. Not the hottest, but great body and great personality and did not ask for much of anything which was shocking. At the end I did spend 300 american on a phone for her just as a tip because the experience was so good. I mean when I took her to the khoa lan (probably spelled wrong) we had sex in the ocean no condom and in from of others because I just don't give a shit. Haha. She was hesitant at first but she obliged. Sorry way off the subject for this room.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2878050]Is this the Emma that looks a little like Cara Delevingne? She pudged out after the pandemic but I guess she's in better shape now?
If it's the girl I'm thinking of, she was popular with the Asians. She's gone even deeper into servicing Asians with the Taiwanese language? That's an odd language to choose.
I didn't know so many of the Asian mongers came from Taiwan. I would think Japanese, Chinese or Korean would work better.[/QUOTE]Taiwan make so bad quality electronics for all our products. China with their government produce shit products.
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Emma is a blonde who sits at the bar with Melanie. I wouldn't say she looks like cara delavigne at all other than that theyre both white chicks.
Other than being a known Asian hunter, emma is also a scam artist who will agree to a price 150/30 CIM in the bar and then in the room will start jacking up the prices "it's 200 now to cum in my mouth" "it's 250 now" I paid because I don't want to get into a shouting match and get security involved but that's exactly the hesitation that she preys upon. With some distance from the event I wish I had just left the room as soon as she demanded more money, hopefully you guys can learn from my mistake.
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[QUOTE=UnkSoldier;2878092]Absolutely. Its still availabe in pattaya for sure. The women there are trying to push the prices up as well but I for under 100 american dollars, February this year I had a girl stay with me for almost a few weeks. Was more like $75 dollars. Young 27 year old. Not the hottest, but great body and great personality and did not ask for much of anything which was shocking. At the end I did spend 300 american on a phone for her just as a tip because the experience was so good. I mean when I took her to the khoa lan (probably spelled wrong) we had sex in the ocean no condom and in from of others because I just don't give a shit. Haha. She was hesitant at first but she obliged. Sorry way off the subject for this room.[/QUOTE]Seem funny in Pattaya, if the girl likes You, You can have her for around 100 for the night, if she doesn t like what You are, like too fat, You will have to pay 100 for 1 hour. 100 for the night is good deal, but I won t go for thaï looks. Even I don t find many attractive, but I prefer few looks in FKK and when I get great quality for behavior and image, I can pay 150/60 or 200/90 when I like to take my time to enjoy woman types, meaning looking and behaving close to normal women, not straight zimmer, nor vulgar for look or words or manners and able like a real woman in bed, not like a little girl and for pussy. I still find good value and for money in Germany. Sharks casting is not one of best values since Summer.
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[QUOTE=SmallWeinerGuy;2878174]Emma is a blonde who sits at the bar with Melanie. I wouldn't say she looks like cara delavigne at all other than that theyre both white chicks.
Other than being a known Asian hunter, emma is also a scam artist who will agree to a price 150/30 CIM in the bar and then in the room will start jacking up the prices "it's 200 now to cum in my mouth" "it's 250 now" I paid because I don't want to get into a shouting match and get security involved but that's exactly the hesitation that she preys upon. With some distance from the event I wish I had just left the room as soon as she demanded more money, hopefully you guys can learn from my mistake.[/QUOTE]When You make mistake to go with such behavior, my advice is: as soon she tries to fuck You, leave the room immediatly and don t pay anything and try next. There are some great behavior at Sharks like Sena, Tara, I was told Carol for those who want to play porn. Alina and Sabrina also seem to be. Some girls are really to avoid on entry side.
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[QUOTE=SmallWeinerGuy;2878174]Emma is a blonde who sits at the bar with Melanie. I wouldn't say she looks like cara delavigne at all other than that theyre both white chicks.
Other than being a known Asian hunter, emma is also a scam artist who will agree to a price 150/30 CIM in the bar and then in the room will start jacking up the prices "it's 200 now to cum in my mouth" "it's 250 now" I paid because I don't want to get into a shouting match and get security involved but that's exactly the hesitation that she preys upon. With some distance from the event I wish I had just left the room as soon as she demanded more money, hopefully you guys can learn from my mistake.[/QUOTE]I think this is the same girl who scammed me as well, Sharks is becoming more of a tourist trap full of scammers. Even if you involve management, they are going to back fire at you and make you feel more bad.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2878050]Is this the Emma that looks a little like Cara Delevingne? She pudged out after the pandemic but I guess she's in better shape now?
If it's the girl I'm thinking of, she was popular with the Asians. She's gone even deeper into servicing Asians with the Taiwanese language? That's an odd language to choose.
I didn't know so many of the Asian mongers came from Taiwan. I would think Japanese, Chinese or Korean would work better.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure the poster should have written Mandarin Chinese as that's the main language of Taiwan. Doubtful that she would have learned the aboriginal type languages spoken there.
She probably had a big spender regular and learned some phrases. Doubtful she learned all of Mandarin without immersion over there. Chinese and southeast Asian languages are so hard to learn without immersion because they are so tonal and you can learn to read and write but not know to listen or speak anything correctly.
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[QUOTE=SmallWeinerGuy;2878174]Emma is a blonde who sits at the bar with Melanie. I wouldn't say she looks like cara delavigne at all other than that theyre both white chicks.
Other than being a known Asian hunter, emma is also a scam artist who will agree to a price 150/30 CIM in the bar and then in the room will start jacking up the prices "it's 200 now to cum in my mouth" "it's 250 now" I paid because I don't want to get into a shouting match and get security involved but that's exactly the hesitation that she preys upon. With some distance from the event I wish I had just left the room as soon as she demanded more money, hopefully you guys can learn from my mistake.[/QUOTE]
The girl I'm thinking of was part of the Romanian crew with Madalena (another known Asian hunter, at least before she fixed her funky tooth that appeals to Japanese guys. Is she still around?) and Ellie (dark haired, a little older and less stunning).
The Emma I'm thinking about has blonde and dark red hair, but often gets the comparison because she has those dark eyebrows and a bit of resting b***h face. Pretty smart and personable, kind of a droll sense of humor, never got the sharky vibe from her.
They used to camp out on the right side of the bar near the front and entrance rather than the back. All small girlish bodies. Sounds like she may be a different girl.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2878195]When You make mistake to go with such behavior, my advice is: as soon she tries to fuck You, leave the room immediatly and don t pay anything and try next. ......[/QUOTE]Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2878298]Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.[/QUOTE]I disagree here. If prices have not been mentioned before, you are entitled to not pay. It did happen to me several times and I refused and that was fine.
I also posted a few weeks ago that I had a girl who immediately bump up the prices as soon as I entered the room. I immediately left, she tried to block the door but I manage to get out. I did not pay anything. So indeed best advice is to leave the room if nothing has started.
Get yourself some balls guys because it's sad to read how weak some of you have become.
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Walk!
[QUOTE=Turgid;2878298]Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.[/QUOTE]If we started kissing and I felt up her tits and ass, then OK I would pay her 50 just to keep the peace. If she sucked my dick bare then 100 total. But other than that, I'm not paying her a damn cent more if we got in there and I cut the session really short (well within the first 30 minutes) because of her unethical bullshit. I'm walking out of there. And if management doesn't like it, then I'm leaving the club too. Now, lucky for me I have never had to cross this kind of Rubicon. I've written before, that before going to the room, I'm the kind of monger who [B]always[/B] makes it perfectly clear what services I want, and what I'm willing to pay. I get full agreement beforehand, and luckily for me this has never failed at an FKK. I get mutual understanding and agreement from the girl, and nobody has ever tried to renege.
But if they did, I would have no qualms about walking out (and did so on a Mexican girl in Tijuana once and paid nothing with no club consequences). To prevent problems, I always encourage guys to clearly ask so that they may undoubtedly receive. Engage in a little friendly negotiation. It doesn't have to be hard bargaining. But don't sit there and try to act like you're picking somebody up at a "normal" club. You're not. So get the deal done [B]before[/B] you go to the room. And as soon as she starts to renege on a major "clause"? End the session and leave immediately. You might still have to pay something for any time and services rendered, but I'm sure if enough guys did this to the scammers eventually the club will understand exactly what they're doing and get rid of them. The clubs do want happy, paying customers without any of the drama.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2878298]Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.[/QUOTE]The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2878298]Its not so easy. She will jack up the price after you have started the session not necessarily by fucking her but maybe by kissing her breasts or her starting to suck your dick and then say its not 150/30 but 200 or 250/30. If you end the session as soon as she says that she will still want to be paid and management will not side with you.[/QUOTE]Then, if You started to touch her, as soon she tries to fuck You upselling, should happen before 30 mn, then stop and leave, giving her only 50 for less than 30 disappointing minutes and nobody can ask You to pay more expensive for such short time shit. When girls think we are led by between our legs, the girl should be so surprised You leave the bed and the room and she has to run after You downstairs, she should go straight in lockers to hide with her 50 . Better to waste only 50 than more expensive for shit. On a bad day at Sharks, when no wow, I mistook for my choice for Kloe even I find her attractive for look. As usual, rather than playing grocery which kill magic for my desire, no question, let s go and discover for 100/30 , but on bed I felt she is too professionnal to make magic for me, so I told her it didn t work for me, even it was my first room of day after many hours since I arrived. She proposed me to do more, but magic had gone, I apologized and she was very honest with me, not trying to argue. Too professionnal for my GFE which need no grocery and no money talk, but very honest, even she was not busy, like often, even one of the most attractive for look. I hate to have to beg, I prefer to stay full balls, when my brain control everything. As say girls: You control everything. These girls are not used to guys like me.
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[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2878297]The girl I'm thinking of was part of the Romanian crew with Madalena (another known Asian hunter, at least before she fixed her funky tooth that appeals to Japanese guys. Is she still around?) and Ellie (dark haired, a little older and less stunning).
The Emma I'm thinking about has blonde and dark red hair, but often gets the comparison because she has those dark eyebrows and a bit of resting b***h face. Pretty smart and personable, kind of a droll sense of humor, never got the sharky vibe from her.
They used to camp out on the right side of the bar near the front and entrance rather than the back. All small girlish bodies. Sounds like she may be a different girl.[/QUOTE]If You mean long time Madalina with beautiful eyes sitting on stairs side of bar, I saw her on my last visits after Summer. Since long time we know and when she knows for me and Megan, I always found her friendly. For other friendly, Sena, Sabrina and Alina with who we joke about her business.
Amazing to read on German lustscout, many Sharks girls ask 100 per 30 for basic, FK if they are really able for extra, BBBJ for extra, so can reach 200/30 or 300/60 . These girls are really crazy, they should look in mirror, when German escorts are much less expensive and much better values in other clubs. Some are still available for 150 for 1 very full hour and even a bit extended at Sharks.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2878237]I think this is the same girl who scammed me as well, Sharks is becoming more of a tourist trap full of scammers. Even if you involve management, they are going to back fire at you and make you feel more bad.[/QUOTE]I accepted it when girls took 150/ hour with good service but now 200/ HR is such a prevalent asking rate. At this point, I just check in once a trip to see the best optics but it's not a great place to find a wow room with a higher tier girl for a fair rate. At this age on a week long or 2 week trip, a girl who is distant in the room will make me go soft so quick. I'll surely stop coming when my regulars are all gone.
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I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.
In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).
I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.
If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.
Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2878348]The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.[/QUOTE]My advice is to be careful for this about entry side bar girls when you could have problem if they complain to staff, but I advice to avoid most of them when upselling to fuck tourists specialists. New rule at Sharks seems to be the most expensive for the lowest level, when can have some on the highest level for 150/60 with FK, DATY and BBBJ and no upselling but friendly behavior if you don't play like a tourist, even being a foreigner like me, when some Germans pay now crazy rates for just little Romanians, nothing about height but potential.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2878425]I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.
In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).
I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.
If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.
Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.[/QUOTE]If the girl doesn't inform you during room, which would be really killing desire for me, then don't pay extra asked at lockers. Don't show your money to girls, don t say you are newbie and if you accept to be fucked, many girls of the club will know about you very fast, when girl who fucked you will tell you are easy, except if you made her really cum and she wants to keep your talent only for her.
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No more Sharks
I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.
But after corona break, things become worse and worse!
From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100€/ h with GFE, DFK.
But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.
And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.
Its time to say goodbye to sharks.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2878348]The way you handle a scammer is to hang around and warn anyone she tries to pick up. When you cost her a few clients, she will get the message clearly. The risk is her pump my beat you up when you leave.[/QUOTE]But it will have an ill effect on the other women too. Girls know the guys who talk too much so even if you are outing a scammer, other girls will only take notice that you are one of the guys with a big mouth. Having a short emotional memory is better. A little warning to an occasional innocent monger with discretion would be benevolent, but being on a mission to call out a scammer in a business built around fantasies is probably not the best move.
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[QUOTE=Prelude141;2878313]I disagree here. If prices have not been mentioned before, you are entitled to not pay. It did happen to me several times and I refused and that was fine.
I also posted a few weeks ago that I had a girl who immediately bump up the prices as soon as I entered the room. I immediately left, she tried to block the door but I manage to get out. I did not pay anything. So indeed best advice is to leave the room if nothing has started.
Get yourself some balls guys because it's sad to read how weak some of you have become.[/QUOTE]Some guys only have cajones when they are anonymous on a mongering site. Do not pay when management tells you to pay and I can assure you that security will de-ball you, LOL.
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[QUOTE=Enphl;2878425]I've only seen maybe 15 girls total in FKKs in my life so I guess my experience is limited, but the times where a girl has upcharged, she always gives a warning. Outside the room, I first list the main things I want (ie, bbj, CIM, DFK, "sex" It can be hard to list everything one might upcharge for. Then I agree on the TOTAL cost for the session.
In the room, maybe I lick her nipples or start using tongue, etc. This is when she will stop and say "that's extra". I'll decline and move on (or pay if I want).
I've never finished the session THEN been told that the cost is more because of something she or I did. I had a few times where it was less.
If that happened, I'd argue that she should have said something and it's too late now.
Now, these days, I pretty much can only do one session. If I do a second, I have trouble finishing. So at this point, it is pretty easy to just walk out of there. If you planned to be there all day and the first girl tried to scam you, I guess it could be more problematic or at least more of a loss if you walked out.[/QUOTE]Keep up the hobby and unless you are meticulous and insist on hammering all pricing details every time and you'll eventually get it every so often. I've been doing this for 15 years and a girl tried it last week. Usually it's the girl trying to see what she can get but has no intent on going to reception. I usually just give her the amount I calculate and gracefully say goodbye. Every time, the girl will be pleasant when she sees me again and several I have sessioned with again later.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2878549]I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.
But after corona break, things become worse and worse!
From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100/ h with GFE, DFK.
But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.
And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.
Its time to say goodbye to sharks.[/QUOTE]I tend to agree. The girls have become too greedy for their own good. Fortunately, after 3 days of Sharks I was able to enjoy a Saturday at Oase and after that went with a friend to FKK Wellcum in Austria. The base price is 70/30 and plenty of girls are more than happy to receive that or 70/30 + tip. No unnecessary haggling on upselling. Lots of fresh girls willing to please. 7 girls in 3 days.
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Travel to Sharks
Next month my usual form of transport from Terminal Two Frankfurt airport to Sharks isn't available and I've just found out that the Airbus only now departs from Terminal one. Meaning I would have to take the free shuttle bus from T1 to T2 but unfortunately I will be limited for time.
So does anyone know how much a taxi would cost from T2 to Sharks?
I could go by train but again it will delay my limited time available.
If the cost is too much I might give Palace a try for the first time.
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Is Wellcum full FKK or is it a bikini and lingerie club?
[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2878686]I tend to agree. The girls have become too greedy for their own good. Fortunately, after 3 days of Sharks I was able to enjoy a Saturday at Oase and after that went with a friend to FKK Wellcum in Austria. The base price is 70/30 and plenty of girls are more than happy to receive that or 70/30 + tip. No unnecessary haggling on upselling. Lots of fresh girls willing to please. 7 girls in 3 days.[/QUOTE]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.
Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?
Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878394]I'll surely stop coming when my regulars are all gone.[/QUOTE]I will not quit this hobby only if I have income to support. For years' visits, my once regulars or favorite List became longer and longer. (See below). And each year I add new fresh girls into my happy list, so it is almost impossible that they are all gone.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2711492]at Sharks top notch girls were NOT Gypsy before pandemic. Girls in Sharks elite list would include Dina, Megan, Janine, Vivien, Nicolette, Sandra, Helli, Evita, Helen, Lily, Corina, Cosmina, Mandy, Amilia, Jennifer, Anna, Denise, Anastasia, Melody, Melissa, Coco, Scarlette, Flavia, Ruby, Jazz, Mara, Betty, Adriana, Tamara, Zynap, Roxy, Julia, teodora and more, etc. [/QUOTE]Of course, I have distanced many of my former favorite due to the hiking price. I usually spent 500-800 each day visit before covid. Under the old time 100/60 rate I could offer 5-8 one-hour-session to my regulars. During A five-day trip I could take at least 20 different girls and some of them could get multiple sessions. And I usually had 3-4 trips to clubs each year.
Now under 200/60 new rate, I still spend same amount money as before but could not take as many girls as pre-covid era. New strategy is to focus on the most optic young girls. Most of my former favorites are aged. They either retired, or out of my list.
This year my top favorites includes Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Lola, Roberta (moved to Oase since August), Lora (gone), MG1, MG2 (these two girls didn't allow me to write comments about them), etc. Next year I definitely will keep meeting new fresh beauties to continue pursuing my hobby.
Sorry for my ex-favorites included Roxy Mellisa Ruby Melani Branda Vanness Sabina Esther Adriana Mila Denise (Kitty) who still are working in Sharks. I don't even give them a single penny this year.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2878549]I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.
But after corona break, things become worse and worse!
From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100/ h with GFE, DFK.
But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.
And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.
Its time to say goodbye to sharks.[/QUOTE]Yes unfortunately you are right. The "pandemic" seems to have created a huge group of greedy women and dumb men who accept everything and are not able to think.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2878703]Next month my usual form of transport from Terminal Two Frankfurt airport to Sharks isn't available and I've just found out that the Airbus only now departs from Terminal one. Meaning I would have to take the free shuttle bus from T1 to T2 but unfortunately I will be limited for time.
So does anyone know how much a taxi would cost from T2 to Sharks?
I could go by train but again it will delay my limited time available.
If the cost is too much I might give Palace a try for the first time.[/QUOTE]Taxi costs from Frankfurt airport to sharks around 120€.
Palace or mainhatten can be a choice.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2878706]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.
Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?
Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?[/QUOTE]Some full naked days, read on thread. BBBJ is very standard, not FK, at Wellcum, girls saying: Italians don t kiss, or: I don't kiss, but I suck good. When I was unlucky when Winter arrived too early on 1 November, but I found woman type Juliet. Ro who even fkissed me in lounge before going upstairs. 140/60 with 2 showers together, real and good FK, BBBJ. Wellcum is my restaurant for real sport in Zoncolan.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2878686]I tend to agree. The girls have become too greedy for their own good. Fortunately, after 3 days of Sharks I was able to enjoy a Saturday at Oase and after that went with a friend to FKK Wellcum in Austria. The base price is 70/30 and plenty of girls are more than happy to receive that or 70/30 + tip. No unnecessary haggling on upselling. Lots of fresh girls willing to please. 7 girls in 3 days.[/QUOTE]Many Sharks girls now behave like did Oase girls on 2016 with upselling causing the fall, but now, Oase improved and better value for money than most Sharks girls. Even not Ukrainian, but Nadia is sexier than Kity. Pity, girls make losing business to Sharks management. Nevertheless, still few good girls, but new ones are not improving the value. But not only Sharks in Hessen or Germany.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2878549]I have been in sharks more than 250 x since 2012.
But after corona break, things become worse and worse!
From 2013 - 2020 I never asked a girl for her price, because I know it and always paid 100/ h with GFE, DFK.
But now you always have to negotiate for the price before the room and often in the room or after the room.
And this is not just few girls, it does almost all girls even the ugly.
Its time to say goodbye to sharks.[/QUOTE]Main problem for me since July is no wow look, no interesting images, when I managed 150/60, 200/80 on May and June for really high fresh GFE with a rare German part timer and 150/80 on same level on beginning of August with my best Sharks 2021 girl. If they want to go with You, I think 150/60+ for full GFE is still possible with most who are on highest level, when most who ask more expensive are not on highest level, like Kity, Katalea, many little Romanians who are far below Tara, Sena. I m a bit sad level of Romanians really fell, when I had so many I repeated weekly driving so many kilometers to return.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2878703]Next month my usual form of transport from Terminal Two Frankfurt airport to Sharks isn't available and I've just found out that the Airbus only now departs from Terminal one. Meaning I would have to take the free shuttle bus from T1 to T2 but unfortunately I will be limited for time.
So does anyone know how much a taxi would cost from T2 to Sharks?
I could go by train but again it will delay my limited time available.
If the cost is too much I might give Palace a try for the first time.[/QUOTE]Shutle T1 to T2 is fairly quick like 10 min, 20 mi. If you have to wait the bus to come.
Have a look to the rail air bus, it quick and cheap, 10 euros, 30 min journey to Darmstadt HBF and then 10 euros Cab HBF to sharks (or 30 min walk).
Taxi FRA to Darmstadt is about 60 euros.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2878524]. . . ., except if you made her really cum and she wants to keep your talent only for her.[/QUOTE]Sometimes you're so smart about whoring, and then there are times like this. . .
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Easy money
LOL, I was getting out of my car when parked across the street. A taxi pulls up and asks to drop me off at the front door so he can collect the taxi commission. Hilarious. Makes me think that on busy days, they can just hang out across the street between fairs and collect easy money.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2878706]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.
Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?
Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?[/QUOTE]Q1: More bikini than nude but more nude than at Oase these days. FKK concept is nearly dead at large clubs.
Q2: Usually includes but some ask for upcharge.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2878686]I tend to agree. The girls have become too greedy for their own good. Fortunately, after 3 days of Sharks I was able to enjoy a Saturday at Oase and after that went with a friend to FKK Wellcum in Austria. The base price is 70/30 and plenty of girls are more than happy to receive that or 70/30 + tip. No unnecessary haggling on upselling. Lots of fresh girls willing to please. 7 girls in 3 days.[/QUOTE]They should never have named that club 'Sharks'. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Canary;2878703]Next month my usual form of transport from Terminal Two Frankfurt airport to Sharks isn't available and I've just found out that the Airbus only now departs from Terminal one. Meaning I would have to take the free shuttle bus from T1 to T2 but unfortunately I will be limited for time.
So does anyone know how much a taxi would cost from T2 to Sharks?
I could go by train but again it will delay my limited time available.
If the cost is too much I might give Palace a try for the first time.[/QUOTE]There is a new bus stop for the Airbus less than 10 minutes walk from T2. If you look use Google map it will show you the stop.
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Estimates
[QUOTE=Saturn11;2878912]There is a new bus stop for the Airbus less than 10 minutes walk from T2. If you look use Google map it will show you the stop.[/QUOTE]I often just pick the time of the day I'm planning and start an UBER rez to see what the prices tell me. Should give you a budget. Just don't hit confirm. 😜.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2878706]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]Wellcum is a nice club with a good selection of girls and quality for money, but leaving Frankfurt, the FKK capitol of the world, for Villach? Sorry, it does not make sense to me. If you are tired of Sharks, then Palace, Oase and Mainhattan are right there at your doorstep. NRW also closer than Villach.
Now, if you are travelling from London, Paris, Amsterdam, New York or Miami I could give you a different answer.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878860]LOL, I was getting out of my car when parked across the street. A taxi pulls up and asks to drop me off at the front door so he can collect the taxi commission. Hilarious. Makes me think that on busy days, they can just hang out across the street between fairs and collect easy money.[/QUOTE]Must have been an ex Las Vegas taxi driver. They prowl around the strip clubs there looking for foot traffic (i.e. overseas visitors) to play the same game.
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Emma & Melani
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878284]I'm pretty sure the poster should have written Mandarin Chinese as that's the main language of Taiwan. Doubtful that she would have learned the aboriginal type languages spoken there..[/QUOTE]A Taiwanese told me that Emma (probably also Melanie) could speak some Taiwan language. One time I overheard that Emma said "Goa ai Lee" to a young Asian. Later on the guy told me it was Taiwanese language means " I love you".
Emma and Melanie are very famous at a Taiwanese sex forum since 2016. Taiwaneses called these two girls as "two beauties of Asian hunters".
Of course I believe Emma and Melanin could also speak some mandarin or Japanese.
These days, many girls could speak more or less Asian language. One time a girl shouted at an Asian guy "ai shi te ru" . It is " love you" in Japanese. LOL.
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I was in the same predicament. I'm based in Frankfurt but it seemed long a long journey just to go there.
I didn't regret going though. I did a weekend trip down on a flixbus on a Friday and got back to Frankfurt in time for work on Monday.
I caught a flixbus to karlsruhe and then from karlsruhe to villach so that I could sleep uninterrupted from 12 AM to 8 AM which I did do.
Quite comfortably. Woke up fully refreshed in villach at 8 AM.
To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2878706]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.
Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?
Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2878793]Yes unfortunately you are right. The "pandemic" seems to have created a huge group of greedy women and dumb men who accept everything and are not able to think.[/QUOTE]Not such upselling and higher quality on 2021, after covid.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2878743]I will not quit this hobby only if I have income to support. For years' visits, my once regulars or favorite List became longer and longer. (See below). And each year I add new fresh girls into my happy list, so it is almost impossible that they are all gone.
Of course, I have distanced many of my former favorite due to the hiking price. I usually spent 500-800 each day visit before covid. Under the old time 100/60 rate I could offer 5-8 one-hour-session to my regulars. During A five-day trip I could take at least 20 different girls and some of them could get multiple sessions. And I usually had 3-4 trips to clubs each year.
Now under 200/60 new rate, I still spend same amount money as before but could not take as many girls as pre-covid era. New strategy is to focus on the most optic young girls. Most of my former favorites are aged. They either retired, or out of my list.
This year my top favorites includes Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Lola, Roberta (moved to Oase since August), Lora (gone), MG1, MG2 (these two girls didn't allow me to write comments about them), etc. Next year I definitely will keep meeting new fresh beauties to continue pursuing my hobby..[/QUOTE]You arrived 2 years too late for Katalea and pay more expensive than those who got her freshness on her first 2 weeks at Sharks when she didn't need heavy make up. I would not pay for Lola, not pretty enough for me. Natalia at Gold has average teeth and low level for sex.
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I am traveling from the US, California
[QUOTE=Shark16;2878923]Wellcum is a nice club with a good selection of girls and quality for money, but leaving Frankfurt, the FKK capitol of the world, for Villach? Sorry, it does not make sense to me. If you are tired of Sharks, then Palace, Oase and Mainhattan are right there at your doorstep. NRW also closer than Villach.
Now, if you are travelling from London, Paris, Amsterdam, New York or Miami I could give you a different answer.[/QUOTE]Not New York but California.
What do you recommend?
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Please stop visiting Sharks because too expensive for you
Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.
I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.
So the win-win situation is that:
1) some guys [B]save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money [/B] by stop visiting Sharks.
2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.
Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2878969]To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.[/QUOTE]So that would make it more expensive than most girls in Sharks?
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2878923]Wellcum is a nice club with a good selection of girls and quality for money, but leaving Frankfurt, the FKK capitol of the world, for Villach? Sorry, it does not make sense to me. If you are tired of Sharks, then Palace, Oase and Mainhattan are right there at your doorstep. NRW also closer than Villach.
Now, if you are travelling from London, Paris, Amsterdam, New York or Miami I could give you a different answer.[/QUOTE]Yes, Wellcum is a very beautiful club at the bottom of wonderful Carinthians, even trees now hide a bit, but even I found really good kisser, even in lounge before room, woman type Juliet. Ro for 140/60 with BBBJ but not skillful to suck and average for fucking, 0 upselling, but I would not advice Wellcum for their girls level in bed, when I got so far higher level in Germany and even at Sharks for more than 10 rooms on 2023 . Best for me at Wellcum are foods, not much upselling is better than at Sharks since Summer, BBBJ is full standard but I hate: Italians don t kiss, I don t kiss but I suck good, told by girls. Even 0 room on most of my last visits, but at Sharks, Sena, Tara are higher level than at Wellcum. Less girls, but Oase can compete for beauties and quality with Sharks, with less upselling now and higher level for girls than at Wellcum. GG is on another level for quality if You love women, not for schoolgirls.
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Emma and melanie, serious?
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2878967]A Taiwanese told me that Emma (probably also Melanie) could speak some Taiwan language. One time I overheard that Emma said "Goa ai Lee" to a young Asian. Later on the guy told me it was Taiwanese language means " I love you".
Emma and Melanie are very famous at a Taiwanese sex forum since 2016. Taiwaneses called these two girls as "two beauties of Asian hunters".
Of course I believe Emma and Melanin could also speak some mandarin or Japanese.
These days, many girls could speak more or less Asian language. One time a girl shouted at an Asian guy "ai shi te ru" . It is " love you" in Japanese. LOL.[/QUOTE]Just because they speak 2/3 sentence, don't means they speak a language.
Believe me, both will laugh you out, after they got your money!
Emma is max. A 6 .
And melanie with her unnormal big ass is max. A 5.
The last 5 x I was in sharks, they both only seat at the bar and waiting for customers.
I haven't seen them doing any business.
Real beauty asian hunter were cosmina, evita, helen, daria, but they are not in sharks anymore.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2878967]A Taiwanese told me that Emma (probably also Melanie) could speak some Taiwan language. One time I overheard that Emma said "Goa ai Lee" to a young Asian. Later on the guy told me it was Taiwanese language means " I love you".
Emma and Melanie are very famous at a Taiwanese sex forum since 2016. Taiwaneses called these two girls as "two beauties of Asian hunters".
Of course I believe Emma and Melanin could also speak some mandarin or Japanese.
These days, many girls could speak more or less Asian language. One time a girl shouted at an Asian guy "ai shi te ru" . It is " love you" in Japanese. LOL.[/QUOTE]Speaking or knowing some phrases? Because I literally saw Emma 2 days ago, did not go to room, and no she is not fluent in mandarin or any Taiwanese dialect. Her East Asian language fluency is about on par with my Eastern European language fluency. As in, county to 10, say Hello, say I love you, blah blah blah.
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Yikes, the lying down and taking it attitude is what's ruining the scene. It does strike me as an odd reaction when the reaction of criticism to a club seems so personal.
Every one can do what they want with their money but should realize and admit when it is contributing to the deterioration of the scene. You can see it when you see all the worse type of new girls showing up. Ones who have been in the business long enough to get silicon. Lazy new princesses. Girls who ask for tips even when paying 200 e rate.
Spend your 200/ hour but do not pretend you are not part of the decline of the FKK.
I said fuck it and paid the 200 e rate one time just to see. The room was okay. Got baby kisses and was shorted on time. Decent everything else. In the end, still pressures me for a tip. This should let people know that there is no ceiling for what the women will ask. All 100 e rooms were just suck and fuck bullshit rooms. At this point, I expect a bust if I ever take a girl who is not a regular.
Pay what you want but normalizing it and pushing it on others is detrimental. At least the complainers may have the effect of warning new readers that this is not normal and to not throw your money so easily.
Tourists along with 15-minute-pump young locals keep feeding the girls with 100 e for bullshit half hour sessions that are really 20 minutes.
That's why you don't see whales buying long rooms at Sharks anymore. It has become more economical for girls to pump out shit 20 minute rooms for 100 e than to even invest hours with a big spender and provide excellent service.
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[QUOTE=Saturn11;2879087]So that would make it more expensive than most girls in Sharks?[/QUOTE]BBBJ extra is not the norm as Austria has no condom law. 70 e service at Welcum trumps 100 e service at Sharks just about every time. 200 e 1 hour service at Sharks might get you similar value as 140 e at Welcum but that does not seem to be a certainty. I would go out on a limb and say the 150 e service at Oase might be the best of all of them at this current point in time.
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[QUOTE=Shark16;2878923]Wellcum is a nice club with a good selection of girls and quality for money, but leaving Frankfurt, the FKK capitol of the world, for Villach? Sorry, it does not make sense to me. If you are tired of Sharks, then Palace, Oase and Mainhattan are right there at your doorstep. NRW also closer than Villach.
Now, if you are travelling from London, Paris, Amsterdam, New York or Miami I could give you a different answer.[/QUOTE]None of those other clubs provide a similar level of optics+quantity as Welcum. Logistics of travel is not as simple but an easy solution is using overnight trains and busses that allow you to combine sleep plus travel time. I've taken overnight trains to wake up in Villach ready to hit up the club. On the way back was even easier having taken an 8 hour overnight train to Stuttgart transfer at 9 am then arriving at to Darmstadt by 11 am. There is even an overnight train that takes you directly to Frankfurt from Villach. I couldn't find a direct train going the other direction though.
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Upselling at Wellcum
[QUOTE=Gorge2;2878969]To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.[/QUOTE]Not my experience at all. BBBJ is pretty much standard service in a 70 E session at Wellcum.
It's not that there are exceptions. Girls will try to upsell a little also here if they regard you as new face in the club. Typically they will try to sell a GFE package for 30 E that includes kissing and DATY. I am yet to hear that they refuse to provide BBBJ as a standard. For 140 E /60 I usually get DFK / BBBJ / DATY / CFS with COB / COT added for free if I want.
You got upsold this time. Next time I bet you will able to avoid those situations.
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Wellcum? Really?
[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2879009]Not New York but California.
What do you recommend?[/QUOTE]It is still difficult to recommend anything. I have been trying to read your 2023 reports, but it is not clear to me what you have experienced this year, what your preferences are, and what you are looking for. I am therefore just assuming that you are one of the many Sharks fanboys who is offput by the latest reports about the 200 E /60 pricing and thus looking for alternatives.
If this assumption is correct, then Hessen is #1 go to place for FKK clubs. I would explore the other FKK clubs in Hessen (and not at least NRW) before making any Austria visits. The FKK scene in Germany is generally much bigger than Austria with tons of options (cannot be compared).
If I am wrong, and that you have much more experience with the Germany FKK clubs than I initially believed, but for some reason are bored with the Germany FKK scene feeling adventurous seeking something fresh and new, then sure why not. You can then skip Frankfurt and take a flight to Vienna or Klagenfurt in stead. Logistics to Austria would then make more sense.
- IMHO Wellcum is a very nice club that can compete with Sharks / Oase. It's not better, but not worse (heated outside pool and Italian food as biggest pros).
- LU is good (70+ girls on the weekend?) with quality on par with Sharks/Oase (not better/not worse).
- Biggest plus for Wellcum is less upselling than at Sharks / Oase (but also less kissing), but upsell is far from being non-existing. If you are able to play your cards right you can quite easily get a quality session at Wellcum from 70 E /30 or 140 e /60 (BBBJ / CFS / DATY and possibly kissing). I am yet to hear anyone quoting 200 E /60 at Wellcum (that is VERY rare).
So for 2- 3 days Wellcum is perfect. But there are no good alternatives in Austria as far as my experiences goes. So if you plan for 1- 2 weeks, then you will need alternatives to Wellcum, and again, logistics is far more easy in Germany.
As you can see, it is impossible to give clear recommendations unless you provide more information about length of stay, your personal preferences, usw.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878612]Keep up the hobby and unless you are meticulous and insist on hammering all pricing details every time and you'll eventually get it every so often. I've been doing this for 15 years and a girl tried it last week. Usually it's the girl trying to see what she can get but has no intent on going to reception. I usually just give her the amount I calculate and gracefully say goodbye. Every time, the girl will be pleasant when she sees me again and several I have sessioned with again later.[/QUOTE]Sure, I'm sure it exists, it's just seems pretty rare for a girl to try to pull something like that. Upsell during session, sometimes. Recalculation of fee AFTER session, really rare. Most of my experience is not at FKKs so maybe its different. Unless it is an FKK or brothel where I'm essentially getting a somewhat random girl, I usually only see girls that are well reviewed so that helps the odds. Most times (not at fkk), I have to pay upfront and so there isnt really much opportunity for a girl to try to scam you other than offering an upsell during the session. FKKs are kind of unique in the world. good and bad.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2879193]None of those other clubs provide a similar level of optics+quantity as Welcum. Logistics of travel is not as simple but an easy solution is using overnight trains and busses that allow you to combine sleep plus travel time. I've taken overnight trains to wake up in Villach ready to hit up the club. On the way back was even easier having taken an 8 hour overnight train to Stuttgart transfer at 9 am then arriving at to Darmstadt by 11 am. There is even an overnight train that takes you directly to Frankfurt from Villach. I couldn't find a direct train going the other direction though.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip about night train from Frankfurt to Villach. Very interesting!
Your report showed up with a delay (after my response to BPB). We both have good experiences at Wellcum. I still think one should explore Oase, Palace, Mainhattan before leaving Frankfurt though (at least Oase). But to each their own.
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[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;2878706]I've been wanting to go to Wellcum for many years, but it seems a little out of the way if I'm in the Frankfurt area.
Question 1 - Is the club full nude (FKK) or do the girls wear bikini's and lingerie when they walk around?
Question 2 - Does the 70 Euro include BBBJ or is it covered?[/QUOTE]On the subject of FKK days, most recently I was told it was on Sunday and Wednesday when I called them this past September. Previously it used to be Monday, Thursday and Friday during the summer of 2022. Not sure if the Sunday and Wednesday dates has changed since then so best to call them ahead of time to enquire if you plan to visit on a FKK day.
By the way, for any Wellcum regulars, has anyone tried out new girl Kasy at Wellcum? Her body looks amazingly stunning. Tempted to revisit next March if she is still available there.
Thanks. Howie.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2879193]None of those other clubs provide a similar level of optics+quantity as Welcum. Logistics of travel is not as simple but an easy solution is using overnight trains and busses that allow you to combine sleep plus travel time. I've taken overnight trains to wake up in Villach ready to hit up the club. On the way back was even easier having taken an 8 hour overnight train to Stuttgart transfer at 9 am then arriving at to Darmstadt by 11 am. There is even an overnight train that takes you directly to Frankfurt from Villach. I couldn't find a direct train going the other direction though.[/QUOTE]Many clubs in Germany are higher level for me than Wellcum and Globe, lands of silicon, many not fkissing at Wellcum, so I don't pay for this. Marina. Slo was higher level for me.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879135]Just because they speak 2/3 sentence, don't means they speak a language.
Believe me, both will laugh you out, after they got your money!
Emma is max. A 6 .
And melanie with her unnormal big ass is max. A 5.
The last 5 x I was in sharks, they both only seat at the bar and waiting for customers.
I haven't seen them doing any business.
Real beauty asian hunter were cosmina, evita, helen, daria, but they are not in sharks anymore.[/QUOTE]Cosmina is at Oase and likes me now. Funny what she asked me few months ago, but I never forget.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879034]Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.
I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.
So the win-win situation is that:
1) some guys [B]save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money [/B] by stop visiting Sharks.
2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.
Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.[/QUOTE]How do you want to compete versus speaking Russian? Did you ever touch her, even overpaying?
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[QUOTE=Gorge2;2878969]I was in the same predicament. I'm based in Frankfurt but it seemed long a long journey just to go there.
I didn't regret going though. I did a weekend trip down on a flixbus on a Friday and got back to Frankfurt in time for work on Monday.
I caught a flixbus to karlsruhe and then from karlsruhe to villach so that I could sleep uninterrupted from 12 AM to 8 AM which I did do.
Quite comfortably. Woke up fully refreshed in villach at 8 AM.
To get a BBBJ you have to buy the "cum in mouth extra" which is 50 euros on top of the 70.[/QUOTE]This was not my experience recently. The standard 70/30 included BBBJ. It's always nice to add a tip of 10 or 20 euros.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879034]Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.
I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.
So the win-win situation is that:
1) some guys [B]save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money [/B] by stop visiting Sharks.
2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.
Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.[/QUOTE]I believe that is one of the problems with Sharks at the moment. Not enough new talent. Too many old faces that have been there for years. I've heard from a regular that more new faces can be found at Oase and at Samya.
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[QUOTE=ParSeeker;2879301]I believe that is one of the problems with Sharks at the moment. Not enough new talent. Too many old faces that have been there for years. I've heard from a regular that more new faces can be found at Oase and at Samya.[/QUOTE]Sharks has also new faces, BUT those are the scammers from other clubs.
200/ h is not the limit, many girls even try 250/ h or even 300/ h for GFE / DFK.
And I know too many guys paying 300-400€/ h.
So even 200/ h don't ensure good service right now. Soo sad.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879034]
Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.[/QUOTE]Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879135]
Emma is max. A 6 .
And melanie with her unnormal big ass is max. A 5.
The last 5 x I was in sharks, they both only seat at the bar and waiting for customers.
I.[/QUOTE]I didn't assert that Emma and Melanie are the top tier. I just emphasized that even if girls are considered average, they can still be popular among specific customer groups if they find a niche to fill.
Of course prime time for girls are very short. For example Melanie was Someone's Snow White" in 2015. Not anymore now.
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Only most attractive young girls
I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls.
200/60, I always can get good service with GFE from girls I like. But 100/30 only get basic service with bad attitude in Sharks. I am not as lucky as Sirioja who spent only 150/60 could still get best GFE service.
Beautiful young women have always been scarce.
But money is Not scarce. You can earn anyway.
So if 200 euro could f*k a beautiful young girl one hour, I do.
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Besides Frankfurt is Austria or Switzerland better for full nude FKK?
[QUOTE=Shark16;2879253]Thanks for the tip about night train from Frankfurt to Villach. Very interesting!
Your report showed up with a delay (after my response to BPB). We both have good experiences at Wellcum. I still think one should explore Oase, Palace, Mainhattan before leaving Frankfurt though (at least Oase). But to each their own.[/QUOTE]Hi.
I'll be with a buddy in Pattaya from Dec 28 - Jan 15, but I'd like to stop off in Germany on may way home (USA), and while I'm very familiar with Frankfurt (Sharks, Oase, Palace, Mainhatten) and NRW and all those clubs, I'm very partial to all the fully nude FKK clubs.
I've been to Zurich many times but mostly went to Club Globe, but I've read that the other clubs in and around Zurich (Palace, Club Swiss, Freubad, Amesia, etc) are fully nude FKK clubs (at least on some days).
I've never been to Austria and wanted to see Wellcum, Andiamo, Goldentime, Babylon, Maxim and I was just told Wellcum has 2 days per week that are fully nude FKK.
Question. If you were going to pick a European country that had the highest number of fully nude FKK clubs, not in the Frankfurt area, where would you go?
Austria, Switzerland or somewhere else in Germany outside Frankfurt?
I'd like to hit at least one area or country with lots of full nude FKK's before I make my way to Frankfurt to visit the big 5. Then I'll head back to the states at the end of the month.
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[QUOTE=BarryManila;2879329]Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.[/QUOTE]Girls telling longest booking, less sex, but needing so much to speak to make bored with headache. Had some girls just after long bookings like Florentina at Sharks on 2018, Raïssa at World on 20 June 2015, my Russian at GG on November, they were fresh like virgin, my Russian turning electric on intense fucking after difficult previous room for her, even not much sex. But on my last visit, when she told me about again long time booking for 4 hours, I answered I would not wait, she was back after 2 only hours, but I went with Italia I was happy to repeat for her very woman type, even Russia is my most extreme GFE quality in FKK land, for 150/60. Higher value for money than Sharks little Romanians who ask too expensive for their look and value.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879342]I didn't assert that Emma and Melanie are the top tier. I just emphasized that even if girls are considered average, they can still be popular among specific customer groups if they find a niche to fill.
Of course prime time for girls are very short. For example Melanie was Someone's Snow White" in 2015. Not anymore now.[/QUOTE]You said, only the real top girls deserve 200€/ h.
I understand your thought, and in one way this is right.
But not here in sharks.
This is the reason why Emma or Melanie also wants 200€/ h.
And all the other 5's or 6's or average looking girls.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879349]I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls.
200/60, I always can get good service with GFE from girls I like. But 100/30 only get basic service with bad attitude in Sharks. I am not as lucky as Sirioja who spent only 150/60 could still get best GFE service.
Beautiful young women have always been scarce.
But money is Not scarce. You can earn anyway.
So if 200 euro could f*k a beautiful young girl one hour, I do.[/QUOTE]So you also get GFE DFK for 200€/ h also with Simona or Kitty?
Since middle of this year, when they increased their price, after they recognized that even the average girls takes 200€/ h.
Their price became 250€/ h full service.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879315]Sharks has also new faces, BUT those are the scammers from other clubs.
200/ h is not the limit, many girls even try 250/ h or even 300/ h for GFE / DFK.
And I know too many guys paying 300-400/ h.
So even 200/ h don't ensure good service right now. Soo sad.[/QUOTE]When I'm only excited by looks and behavior close to normal women I see out of FKK land, since my rare German left on June, I m really not impressed by Sharks casting and I don t see any who has the look or GFE on my level, to worth 200/60 , when I can have beautiful German escorts for less, when they know my way, when unfortunately, most Romanians lost quality. Game at Sharks is now: more expensive for lower quality, or the shortest the most experience like average face short Simona. Ro and some Germans are crazy about little girls I got at school when I was 15. Sharks is good for the club, but better quality for girls elsewhere in Germany for me and for 150/60 or 200/90 when I like to take my time when quality.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879450]So you also get GFE DFK for 200/ h also with Simona or Kitty?
[/QUOTE]Simona (155 cm height, somehow lookalike young [B]Leah Gotti[/B]) quote me 150/30. Non- negotiable. So I had to turn to Lola. Although Lola also quote me 200/60, she finally agreed 300/120. So I took Lola instead of Simona.
Later on, I saw Simona again, but she said she was unhappy with me unless I agree 300/ hour. No way. I left her alone.
Kitty is out of my list. She accused me that I pretended not to recognize her and only wanted to pay 150/60 last October (2022). She remembered me in October 2019 when I took her and her "cousin" Anna-Mari 3-P and paid them well. Now I became "cheap Charlie". Kitty refused to go to room me.
Catelea gave me the best GFE service this year. 200/60 or 400/120.
Ariana too 200/60. BTW, Ariana comes back from vacation. She would probably stay until the end of December. Even if not many customers like her, but I like her.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879450]So you also get GFE DFK for 200/ h also with Simona or Kitty?
Since middle of this year, when they increased their price, after they recognized that even the average girls takes 200/ h.
Their price became 250/ h full service.[/QUOTE]Some pay 250/60 for few baby, Romanian, kiss.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879349]I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls.
200/60, I always can get good service with GFE from girls I like. But 100/30 only get basic service with bad attitude in Sharks. I am not as lucky as Sirioja who spent only 150/60 could still get best GFE service.
Beautiful young women have always been scarce.
But money is Not scarce. You can earn anyway.
So if 200 euro could f*k a beautiful young girl one hour, I do.[/QUOTE]I agree with you on 1 point, when I love Russia but was not educated in a kolkhoze, all girls don't worth same rate for me. For sure, Katalea or Kity or Bibi worth more expensive than Sylvana, but this don't mean these 3 are high level, when they are not and never worth 200/60 compare to German escorts, when they are ridiculous for sex compare to escort level. We don't all have same standard, when I paid 200/60 for many rooms with Lora. FR and even out of Sharks, for her freshness and magic of French communication while sex, before her pimped technique when she lost her best French regulars, turning to Asian business, but I got her freshness like for Katalea just arriving from her private. If I was better on this Saturday, I could be her first at Sharks, but I had belly problems on afternoon and was only able at 1 am, exhausting her, when she finished after our room.
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[QUOTE=BarryManila;2879329]Sorry, but she will be too bored with you, 9 hours with just one man.[/QUOTE]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2879685]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I Never found her this month. Maybe she has so many appointments and all booked and very difficult to find. But another Ukrainian top girl at Oase, Nadia whom Siri always recommend will work through Christmas and new year so you should visit OASE. (Strictly speaking she is an ethnic Ukrainian who resides in Moldova, not a pure Ukrainian immigrant like Maria).
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Read my posts carefully
[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879657]
Imagine there are people like you, thinking top looking girls desserve 250/ h and are ready to pay this.
Then other girls will[/QUOTE]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ,which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879349]I've reiterated this countless times: the 200/60 rate is only to the most attractive young girls. Approximately around 10% girls inside club deserve that. But there are always ones who deliberately misinterpret my point and consider I overpaying all the girls[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=David1266;2879695]I Never found her this month. Maybe she has so many appointments and all booked and very difficult to find. But another Ukrainian top girl at Oase, Nadia whom Siri always recommend will work through Christmas and new year so you should visit OASE. (Strictly speaking she is an ethnic Ukrainian who resides in Moldova, not a pure Ukrainian immigrant like Maria).[/QUOTE]Maria is real Ukrainian. Nadia Oase would be one of the prettiest at Sharks, but she doesn't speak Russian, but Romanian.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ,which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]When German escorts can be for less than 200/60 when they know You and your way, why do You want to pay same or more expensive for lower quality like Katalea, Kity, Bibi / Samira who can t compete with escort level. Just your choice to pay more expensive for a dacia than for a Audi. In many of your writings, You write girls deserve more expensive and even at Gold, but a dacia will never reach 300 , which is reason I bought Venus8 . You don t know German business so You can t compare quality. If one day, You can touch Maria I got twice, You may start to understand to compare quality, when she is not even my best quality in Germany, when Sharks girls are not on highest level in Germany. Most expensive don t mean highest quality, Globe is proof.
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You don't understand my meaning
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ,which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]I said, when it was 150€/ h, you paying some girls (your top girls) 200€/ h.
Which is not good for the market.
Because these girls tasted blood and stuck with the price.
Then the other girls followed.
And that's why the price now for the top girls are 250€/ h.
And 200€/ h for the other girls.
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[QUOTE=Bonsai;2879997]I said, when it was 150/ h, you paying some girls (your top girls) 200/ h.
Which is not good for the market.
Because these girls tasted blood and stuck with the price.
Then the other girls followed.
And that's why the price now for the top girls are 250/ h.
And 200/ h for the other girls.[/QUOTE]He always wrote and not only at Sharks, he likes to pay girls he likes more expensive than usual rate. Some Germans also pay crazy rate. When You know a bit the business, then You know most Romanians unfortunately fell for quality and You can compare quality, when topgirls for him are not always wow looks, I never noticed some, I would not pay for some and mostly low level for sex for Caucasians.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2879000]You arrived 2 years too late for Katalea and pay more expensive than those who got her freshness on her first 2 weeks at Sharks when she didn't need heavy make up. I would not pay for Lola, not pretty enough for me. Natalia at Gold has average teeth and low level for sex.[/QUOTE]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879738]Do you really understand number or English?
Please open your eyes to read what I said in my post.
I said top attractive young girls deserve 200/60.
You misinterpreted as 250/ h ,which Only the illiterate who doesn't recognize numbers could do that.[/QUOTE]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept. Even the idea of normalizing 200/ HR to any girl in an FKK is already absurd. Like others said, the 200/ HR or above pricing belongs in the outcall scene, not at an FKK where the point is high volume. The fact that one hour at an FKK costs the same as one hour as a private outcall visit is illogical. It's why Sharks has become a tourist trap for 2 pump chumps and is not really an FKK anymore.
That price point inherently undermines the concept of FKKs, sex in volume. It's clearly evident as the number of rooms being taken have declined and the number of 1 hour rooms taken declined even more. That's evident by the fact that room waits are nonexistent these days. Weekend club attendance is pretty good, but off peak day attendance is comparatively weaker than before. This tells me that Sharks attendance now skews even more heavily toward tourists and weekend party guys, not locals or guys trying to fuck.
And like another poster said, guys who normalized the 200/ HR price is why we're now seeing 250/ HR.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880123]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.[/QUOTE]I paid on more than 10 rooms Lora. FR 200/60 , when she asked 150 for 30 , but she was higher GFE than Katalea and french educated. Katalea level for sex don t worth 200/60 for me and she has mostly 30 mn rooms, but I m not interested by 30 mn room. I only rush when average like with Kity.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880152]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept. Even the idea of normalizing 200/ HR to any girl in an FKK is already absurd. Like others said, the 200/ HR or above pricing belongs in the outcall scene, not at an FKK where the point is high volume. The fact that one hour at an FKK costs the same as one hour as a private outcall visit is illogical. It's why Sharks has become a tourist trap for 2 pump chumps and is not really an FKK anymore.
That price point inherently undermines the concept of FKKs, sex in volume. It's clearly evident as the number of rooms being taken have declined and the number of 1 hour rooms taken declined even more. That's evident by the fact that room waits are nonexistent these days. Weekend club attendance is pretty good, but off peak day attendance is comparatively weaker than before. This tells me that Sharks attendance now skews even more heavily toward tourists and weekend party guys, not locals or guys trying to fuck.
And like another poster said, guys who normalized the 200/ HR price is why we're now seeing 250/ HR.[/QUOTE]With rate they ask, many girls have slow business, even on Saturday and party. I wonder if most didn t make more money when they were for 50 per 30 . Funny, ranked as top here are not in election final.
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You guys are lucky to get 150/60 deal
Well, some guys (Sirioja or others) are lucky and always get 150/60 deal. Good for you.
I am not as lucky as you guys. Almost all girls (except few) quota me 200/60. And not negotiable.
Then what could I do? Yes I Walk away, if girls are not my favorite types, (or too old or too mature, even if Sirioja like, but I don't).
So if ugly or regular girls quote you 200/60 or 100/30, then not go with them. If you still want to go with them, then it is your own problem.
However, If the girls are Catelea, Ariana, Maria, Sophie (de), Bibi, Claudia, Stacy, Lola, Roberta, Simona, etc. , I'm unable to decline. I must either accept the quoted rate of 200/60 or propose longer sessions (2-3 hours) for a reduced rate. Some girls agree, while others still adhere to the 200/60 rate.
You guys have a magic trick to reduce prices and pay less to those girls than I do. [B] Good for you again. [/B]You've already gained an advantage, so why complain? Are you altruists or egoists?
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880152]The mentality here clearly comes from someone who undermines the FKK concept..[/QUOTE]From your post, it appears that [B]you hold the view that all girls are homogeneous. [/B]It seems you may overlook the fact that [B]different girls can have varying prices and appeal[/B]. Your use of the term "normalize" suggests a uniformity, akin to treating them as if they were all the same (like AI robots).
Not that case。.
Top young beauties (at most 10-20 girls at Sharks) deserve 200/60. I mentioned countless times.
However, for most of average and below average girls (account for 80% girls population) at Shark club, I would not take them even at 100/60 or 50/30 rate. They could still survive and quote 100/30 200/60 because they have their own regular customers to pay them.
As some customers who claim to always go for their regulars girls only.
[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2878394]I'll surely stop coming when my regulars are all gone.[/QUOTE]So average girls quote 200/60 are not my fault. It is because their regulars customers indulge these girls, keep these girls in business and hike the price.
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The Catelea subway Xpress
[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880123]Not too late for Catelea. She is just 22 yo still very young skinny white and pretty. Yes, she is more expensive than before. She charges everyone in same price rate 200/60. So it might be not affordable for you since you are only able to pay 150/60.
I recently fall in love with Stacy. She looks very decent.[/QUOTE]She is called the Catalea subway express because we ran a train through her. You can have her we are done. She's a train wreck and you're living in embarrassment and denial. Laughing my ass off.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880264]From your post, it appears that [B]you hold the view that all girls are homogeneous. [/B]It seems you may overlook the fact that [B]different girls can have varying prices and appeal[/B]. Your use of the term "normalize" suggests a uniformity, akin to treating them as if they were all the same (like AI robots).
Not that case。.
Top young beauties (at most 10-20 girls at Sharks) deserve 200/60. I mentioned countless times.
However, for most of average and below average girls (account for 80% girls population) at Shark club, I would not take them even at 100/60 or 50/30 rate. They could still survive and quote 100/30 200/60 because they have their own regular customers to pay them.
As some customers who claim to always go for their regulars girls only.
So average girls quote 200/60 are not my fault. It is because their regulars customers indulge these girls, keep these girls in business and hike the price.[/QUOTE]It is possible that you may not be aware of the FKK concept as your views seem to disregard some essential principles of an FKK sauna club.
These are not my personal views; but rather, they are inherent concepts of [B]German FKKs[/B]: standardized pricing for all girls regardless of the subjectivity of "top girl" and bulk fucking many girls in volume. So not only does the normalization of a price point that prevents volume fucking undermine the FKK concept, normalizing variable pricing is also against the FKK concept.
As others have said, it does not matter that a monger justifies higher prices by claiming that a girl is a "top young girl. " The monger who pays higher prices is actively involved in raising prices from other girls as girls work in unison to raise prices. Pay one hot girl a higher rate, her mediocre friend will ask for the higher rate. Girls watch each other and pressure others into higher pricing. I took a massage from one girl, just a massage, and paid her 50 euro. On payment, she requested that I discreetly give her the 50 e so others could not see the small amount. This should tell you how price gouging works.
Your 200 e payment to a "top optic" promotes the entire price gouge scene. Like you, another poster has previously stated, "not all girls are worth the same rate. " That too undermines the German FKK concept. The idea of only fucking one girl during a visit undermines the FKK concept. Common thread: foreign mongers not respecting local concepts.
It's Germany, frugality and standardization are cultural norms embedded into the FKK Sauna Club concept. Locals respond by mostly only taking half hour rooms for 100 euro and many have stopped visiting altogether, already unfortunate.
Unfortunately many foreign mongers mess up a good thing by gleefully giving extortion level payments for service levels that are not even guaranteed to be acceptable. People can do whatever they choose but let's not fool ourselves by turning a blind eye to being part of the problem of the disappearing FKK concepts orchestrated by Romanian girls price gouging low volume fuckers.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880261]Well, some guys (Sirioja or others) are lucky and always get 150/60 deal. Good for you.
I am not as lucky as you guys. Almost all girls (except few) quota me 200/60. And not negotiable.
Then what could I do? Yes I Walk away, if girls are not my favorite types, (or too old or too mature, even if Sirioja like, but I don't).
So if ugly or regular girls quote you 200/60 or 100/30, then not go with them. If you still want to go with them, then it is your own problem.
However, If the girls are Catelea, Ariana, Maria, Sophie (de), Bibi, Claudia, Stacy, Lola, Roberta, Simona, etc. , I'm unable to decline. I must either accept the quoted rate of 200/60 or propose longer sessions (2-3 hours) for a reduced rate. Some girls agree, while others still adhere to the 200/60 rate.
You guys have a magic trick to reduce prices and pay less to those girls than I do. [B] Good for you again. [/B]You've already gained an advantage, so why complain? Are you altruists or egoists?[/QUOTE]As I already wrote, I agree with You all Sharks girls don t worth same rate and yes, Katalea ask 200/60 since 2022 and Kity and Simona ask even more expensive for few kiss = 250/60 or even more for short Simona, but my meaning is your girls are not wow look and in bed to pay 200/60 they don t worth for me. Only Sofi. De and Maria. Ukr could worth in bed, but not pretty enough for this rate. I compare to what can be found and I find in Germany, even I m a foreigner, but I don t play tourist at Sharks. I went with Sofi, 30 mn were too short with her, so I extended, she asked 200/60 , I never repeated. With Bibi / Samira, I had to work hard to get a bit from her low level for sex, about 70 mn, she wanted 200 , I gave her 150 telling her very well paid for her low level, she went to lockers. If You knew Sena, then You could know what is quality, not only low level expensive girls. Natalia at Gold is also low level for sex. I love beauty, but I need a woman in bed, not a Romanian little girl with a small pussy. Most expensive at Sharks are not the highest level.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2880270]She is called the Catalea subway express because we ran a train through her. You can have her we are done. She's a train wreck and you're living in embarrassment and denial. Laughing my ass off.[/QUOTE]Even she is not so fresh than on her arrival from a private, but after 3 weeks, she already lost her freshness on end of July 2021 , then putting heavy make up, but other girls like Brenda since 2016 and many others are since longer time at Sharks. At least, pleasure to look at her body, but not enough. She was great on 3 first week ends when we had 5 1 hour rooms and I remember chicken skin on her ass and her hardening pointing nipples, even not a true GFE despite cumming.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2879695]I Never found her this month. Maybe she has so many appointments and all booked and very difficult to find. But another Ukrainian top girl at Oase, Nadia whom Siri always recommend will work through Christmas and new year so you should visit OASE. (Strictly speaking she is an ethnic Ukrainian who resides in Moldova, not a pure Ukrainian immigrant like Maria).[/QUOTE]Maria still working at Sharks, but have been gone for the last week+. Should be back this coming weekend.
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[QUOTE=EuroTravel1234;2879685]Is Maria (Ukraine) still working in Shark? What is her schedule looks like? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Maria works weekends, still at Sharks.
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Emma
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2878050]Is this the Emma that looks a little like Cara Delevingne? She pudged out after the pandemic but I guess she's in better shape now?
If it's the girl I'm thinking of, she was popular with the Asians. She's gone even deeper into servicing Asians with the Taiwanese language? That's an odd language to choose.
I didn't know so many of the Asian mongers came from Taiwan. I would think Japanese, Chinese or Korean would work better.[/QUOTE]This is very interesting. To me, Emma is one of the ugliest at Sharks, I rate 1. 5 out of 10 and I was always thinking she survives by offering 50 euro for 1 hour or something. I am not saying this in a bad or rude way, it's amazing that men's taste differ so much. And I know my taste is different too as I rate a famous katalea 4 out of 10.
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[QUOTE=TimCreek;2880379]Maria works weekends, still at Sharks.[/QUOTE]So, Maria is a part timer? Only weekend? But I never found her even during the weekend. I guess she is almost 100% booked when she comes.
I think this is because quality of girls at Sharks are extremely low lately and she is the only stunner.
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Emma
[QUOTE=David1266;2880503]This is very interesting. To me, Emma is one of the ugliest at Sharks, I rate 1. 5 out of 10 and I was always thinking she survives by offering 50 euro for 1 hour or something. I am not saying this in a bad or rude way, it's amazing that men's taste differ so much. And I know my taste is different too as I rate a famous katalea 4 out of 10.[/QUOTE]My first session with Emma was in 2017. She really looked like Cara Delevigne then. Young pretty face, tight bod, perky tits. Charged standard 100 for 60 min.
She changed in 2018. There were hoards of Japanese and Chinese tourists then. She rejected me because she preferred to prey on these tourists, from whom she gets 100 for 30 minutes.
Post corona, her looks declined sharply. No more youthful face, pudgy and largish areola. Also puts on a mean look most of the time, instead of smiling. So, I would now rate her a 3, as compared to perhaps an 8 in 2017.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2880505]So, Maria is a part timer? Only weekend? But I never found her even during the weekend. I guess she is almost 100% booked when she comes.
I think this is because quality of girls at Sharks are extremely low lately and she is the only stunner.[/QUOTE]Yes she mostly works weekends maybe one or two days here and there aside from that. But overall it's whenever she wants. I think that's one of the appeals of sharks for the girls, they can come and go as they please and that gives them more power over schedules, earnings etc.
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Taiwanese language
[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2878050]Is this the Emma that looks a little like Cara Delevingne? She pudged out after the pandemic but I guess she's in better shape now?
If it's the girl I'm thinking of, she was popular with the Asians. She's gone even deeper into servicing Asians with the Taiwanese language? That's an odd language to choose.
I didn't know so many of the Asian mongers came from Taiwan. I would think Japanese, Chinese or Korean would work better.[/QUOTE]There is no Taiwanese language. (There are some indigenous languages in Taiwan but speakers will be very angry if they are called Taiwanese language and clearly neither he or she speaks those languages.) Emma speaks a few words of Mandarin and that's it, same as all the girls who work Asian customers a lot. Some people from Taiwan like to use the word "Taiwanese" just to distance themselves from China for the obvious political reasons, most of the time it's equivalent to Chinese.
Melanie and Emma had some fame during 2018-19 on the sex forum in Taiwan, and since Covid, almost no new report of FKK is added so if people search for FKK Sharks on the forum, their names will pop up. That's why they are known among (though quite few in total) visitors came from Taiwan.
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The main issue at the moment is NOT spending 200/ hour on the most beautiful girls (Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Bibi, Kitty, Lora, maxima, Lola, Simone, Celine, Stacy, etc), but spending 200/60 on unattractive / Mediocre ones.
Why some guys still agree to pay 200/60 or 100/30 to mediocre or average girls but also complain? These guys could simply go away if too expensive and find a more optic young alternates.
Because these average girls are indulged by their regular customers. So These regular customers always pay whatever irrational rate their regular favorites ask, even if these girls have become aged and ugly.
For example,
[QUOTE=David1266;2880503]To me, Emma is one of the ugliest at Sharks,[/QUOTE]So you should blame customers who choose her and keep her in business. I never chose Emma since 2016.
Catelea consistently quotes me 200/60 with GFE. [B]Lora (fr)[/B] also quoted me 200/60, the same rate she offered to [B]Sirioja, who booked 10 hours at that rate 200/60 already [/B].
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2880203]I paid on more than 10 rooms Lora. FR 200/60 ,[/QUOTE]So if you don't like Catelea, Lora (FR) or Maria (ukr), then just save your money and leave away.
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Chinese dialect
[QUOTE=PonyBoy;2880527]There is no Taiwanese language. (There are some indigenous languages in Taiwan but speakers will be very angry if they are called Taiwanese language and clearly neither he or she speaks those languages.) Emma speaks a few words of Mandarin and that's it.[/QUOTE]The words quoted by Happy Tour were indeed Chinese, but it is the Fujian dialect and not Mandarin. According to a Taowanese I spoke to, it is a southern Chinese dialect widely used by Taiwanese as many of them moved there from southern China when Mao Tse Tung pushed south.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880531]The main issue at the moment is NOT spending 200/ hour on the most beautiful girls (Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Bibi, Kitty, Lora, maxima, Lola, Simone, Celine, Stacy, etc), but spending 200/60 on unattractive / Mediocre ones............[/QUOTE]For me what is worse than spending 200/60 for an unattractive or mediocre girl is spending 200/60 on girl who gives bad service. You can know in advance the looks of the girl but you cannot predict the quality of service.
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[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2880388]Exactly: uneducated simps who "do-as-they-are-told" and can not say "no" to vaccines, lockdowns, QR Stars, and 200-250/60.[/QUOTE]LOL, still on this? How sad.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2880507]US tourist pollute everywhere they go. They think they rule the World and impose their Will upon others. They tip girls and are low performers in the room. Typically those men are constantly going into lockers to take Kamagra Oral Jelly. Don't talk to them or give them any advice.[/QUOTE]Meh. No need to scapegoat Americans as we don't make up a significant amount of the clientele to have that big an effect. Simple math. Same with the scapegoating of Asians. Those two populations together make up, at most, 5% of total guests. At any given time, there are probably less than 10 total Americans or Asians visiting Sharks.
Shark's business if probably something along the lines of 1/3 German-German, 1/3 Turkish-German, 1/4 other European, plus the rest of the world filling in the remainder. To have such vitriol for these populations is just scapegoating and hate-mongering more than reality.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2880637]For me what is worse than spending 200/60 for an unattractive or mediocre girl is spending 200/60 on girl who gives bad service. You can know in advance the looks of the girl but you cannot predict the quality of service.[/QUOTE]And some on his list are not good in bed like Kity or Bibi or very average like Katalea, some are not pretty like Lola or Claudia and some I never even noticed like Ariana. His top girls and quality are very different. If he ever touched Maria, or full natural with beautiful eyes Sena for 150/60 , he may understand he wasted money with lower level, when he doesn t seem demanding, when girls tell I m too picky, not finding at Sharks or Globe.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880334]It is possible that you may not be aware of the FKK concept as your views seem to disregard some essential principles of an FKK sauna club.
These are not my personal views; but rather, they are inherent concepts of [B]German FKKs[/B]: standardized pricing for all girls regardless of the subjectivity of "top girl" and bulk fucking many girls in volume. So not only does the normalization of a price point that prevents volume fucking undermine the FKK concept, normalizing variable pricing is also against the FKK concept.
As others have said, it does not matter that a monger justifies higher prices by claiming that a girl is a "top young girl. " The monger who pays higher prices is actively involved in raising prices from other girls as girls work in unison to raise prices. Pay one hot girl a higher rate, her mediocre friend will ask for the higher rate. Girls watch each other and pressure others into higher pricing. I took a massage from one girl, just a massage, and paid her 50 euro. On payment, she requested that I discreetly give her the 50 e so others could not see the small amount. This should tell you how price gouging works.
Your 200 e payment to a "top optic" promotes the entire price gouge scene. Like you, another poster has previously stated, "not all girls are worth the same rate. " That too undermines the German FKK concept. The idea of only fucking one girl during a visit undermines the FKK concept. Common thread: foreign mongers not respecting local concepts.
It's Germany, frugality and standardization are cultural norms embedded into the FKK Sauna Club concept. Locals respond by mostly only taking half hour rooms for 100 euro and many have stopped visiting altogether, already unfortunate.
Unfortunately many foreign mongers mess up a good thing by gleefully giving extortion level payments for service levels that are not even guaranteed to be acceptable. People can do whatever they choose but let's not fool ourselves by turning a blind eye to being part of the problem of the disappearing FKK concepts orchestrated by Romanian girls price gouging low volume fuckers.[/QUOTE]When mostly tourists here, but You should read german lustscout for Germans and locals, to understand better what became Sharks. Under lockdown, Germans started to pay 100/30 or 150/60 , when only Melissa ex Palace asked 150/60 before covid and still on same rate. Now they pay 250/60 for Elektra or Simona I would not pay for. Some Germans proposed thousands to my rare German I paid 150/60 or 200/80 and she asked to repeat. Some are turning crazy for little Romanians looking like schoolgirl, or when a fresh natural German.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880667]Meh. No need to scapegoat Americans as we don't make up a significant amount of the clientele to have that big an effect. Simple math. Same with the scapegoating of Asians. Those two populations together make up, at most, 5% of total guests. At any given time, there are probably less than 10 total Americans or Asians visiting Sharks.
Shark's business if probably something along the lines of 1/3 German-German, 1/3 Turkish-German, 1/4 other European, plus the rest of the world filling in the remainder. To have such vitriol for these populations is just scapegoating and hate-mongering more than reality.[/QUOTE]Agree, probably not accurate assessment, overall this is representing global shift in tourists patterns. Internet, economic growth makes things easiest. While back in the day Sharks and the likes may be more known to locals and in smaller circles now a google search for FKK's will yield Sharks as a place to visit, accordingly prices will rise. I don't think that is a phenomenon that must remain, with economic downturns and so on it may shift back down, in fact I heard from one of the girls that "management" mentioned lowering prices etc. Not sure if this was BS or not but I did hear this.
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[QUOTE=TimCreek;2880745]Agree, probably not accurate assessment, overall this is representing global shift in tourists patterns. Internet, economic growth makes things easiest. While back in the day Sharks and the likes may be more known to locals and in smaller circles now a google search for FKK's will yield Sharks as a place to visit, accordingly prices will rise. I don't think that is a phenomenon that must remain, with economic downturns and so on it may shift back down, in fact I heard from one of the girls that "management" mentioned lowering prices etc. Not sure if this was BS or not but I did hear this.[/QUOTE]A while ago, management told girls about less business and asked new girls to work for 80/30 and 130/30 . I know some guys who got Cami for 80 . But not new just didn t care and rised from 150 to 200 or even more for average quality for 1 hour. They prefer to warm their ass making cellulite, sitting for hours. Management is really not helped by their girls and lose business because of many, when better value and quality elsewhere. If they worked in normal life, many would be fired when too expensive for their quality: look and in bed. Even club is good, but not only Sharks in Hessen and Germany where can still find really good quality, with woman types really GFE for me, for 150/60 or 200/90 .
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2880712]And some on his list are not good in bed like Kity or Bibi or very average like Katalea, some are not pretty like Lola or Claudia and some I never even noticed like Ariana. His top girls and quality are very different. If he ever touched Maria, or full natural with beautiful eyes Sena for 150/60 , he may understand he wasted money with lower level, when he doesn t seem demanding, when girls tell I m too picky, not finding at Sharks or Globe.[/QUOTE]I think again this is all relevant.
Most of the FKK scene is subjective there are some dudes that fall in love with the girls in FKK and agree to prices that probably should not be paid in general. But again it's very subjective so I don't judge. I have paid ridiculous prices probably ten fold in Vietnam, Phuket, Prague just because I had a connection with a person beyond sex. 🤷127995;8205;9794;65039;.
I don't think that kind of behavior generally affects overall FKK scene but again tourists and availability of information makes all the difference.
But believe me girls take that in consideration as well perhaps not all but they also consider when the income is prime, what is the best way to maximize etc, which is why many work part time, or develop connections outside of the club.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2880718]When mostly tourists here, but You should read german lustscout for Germans and locals, to understand better what became Sharks. Under lockdown, Germans started to pay 100/30 or 150/60 , when only Melissa ex Palace asked 150/60 before covid and still on same rate. Now they pay 250/60 for Elektra or Simona I would not pay for. Some Germans proposed thousands to my rare German I paid 150/60 or 200/80 and she asked to repeat. Some are turning crazy for little Romanians looking like schoolgirl, or when a fresh natural German.[/QUOTE]Sharks is a tourist trap and I think only good for local germans. The management fails to understand foriegn guests especially Chinese / Asians. The girls also try to hunt the asians and charge more. Its a no go place for tourists.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880663]LOL, still on this? How sad.[/QUOTE]German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.
This is LOL.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2880667]Meh. No need to scapegoat Americans as we don't make up a significant amount of the clientele to have that big an effect. Simple math. Same with the scapegoating of Asians. Those two populations together make up, at most, 5% of total guests. At any given time, there are probably less than 10 total Americans or Asians visiting Sharks.
Shark's business if probably something along the lines of 1/3 German-German, 1/3 Turkish-German, 1/4 other European, plus the rest of the world filling in the remainder. To have such vitriol for these populations is just scapegoating and hate-mongering more than reality.[/QUOTE]German-americans are the most wanted right now. Especially if daddy was settled in rammstein and is part of green party.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2880531]The main issue at the moment is NOT spending 200/ hour on the most beautiful girls (Catelea, Maria, Ariana, Bibi, Kitty, Lora, maxima, Lola, Simone, Celine, Stacy, etc), but spending 200/60 on unattractive / Mediocre ones.
Why some guys still agree to pay 200/60 or 100/30 to mediocre or average girls but also complain? These guys could simply go away if too expensive and find a more optic young alternates.
Because these average girls are indulged by their regular customers. So These regular customers always pay whatever irrational rate their regular favorites ask, even if these girls have become aged and ugly.
For example,
So you should blame customers who choose her and keep her in business. I never chose Emma since 2016.
Catelea consistently quotes me 200/60 with GFE. [B]Lora (fr)[/B] also quoted me 200/60, the same rate she offered to [B]Sirioja, who booked 10 hours at that rate 200/60 already [/B].
So if you don't like Catelea, Lora (FR) or Maria (ukr), then just save your money and leave away.[/QUOTE]Lora. FR when was fresh before March 2023 and her prostitute, Ariana Grande style, fake poney tail, was the only one to worth 200/60 for me at Sharks, to speak french while sex, what I missed so much, so I was not really objective. Maxima who is not French is not at all as pretty, even beautiful eyes and teeth and not fresh behavior but professionnal. Now with much cellulite on ass. German Jasmin from Munich lowered her rate to 150/60 after our discovery, when she was fire in bed. I had Germans coming from escorting for less than 200/60 on 2022 and 2023 , when I never beg, but from my way with them.
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[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2880799]German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.
This is LOL.[/QUOTE]I saw zero masks in Germany and if if I did see a few here and there, I wouldn't be so obsessed with it. What's tiring for me is talking to people who have such strong feelings about topics to which they only have superficial exposure.
Something that was reinforced to me: truth doesn't matter to people who start with a conclusion and work backwards. They will selectively find data points that support their beliefs and ignore ones that do not.
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[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2880799]German Government is making hundreds of billion euro depths, as an excuse they still use corona. Politicians like Lauterbach and Nonnemacher still recommend to wear masks and to do vaccine. Hospitals have measures again, because "the numbers of infections are rising". Last week Germany had over 3 Million infections, at least this is what fake news state media pray.
This is LOL.[/QUOTE]We get same information in France with new covid variant.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2880769]Sharks is a tourist trap and I think only good for local germans. The management fails to understand foriegn guests especially Chinese / Asians. The girls also try to hunt the asians and charge more. Its a no go place for tourists.[/QUOTE]For my many visits, no problem with Sharks staff and desk even improved, but I agree for the big fall for Sharks casting and Oase is better value now with less upselling, even less girls, but quantity don t make quality as I so often wrote. 1 high level to repeat, weekly for a guy like me, is better than mass who upsell for only average.
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[QUOTE=PumDiPum;2880805]German-americans are the most wanted right now. Especially if daddy was settled in rammstein and is part of green party.[/QUOTE]I banged an American German in Oase 13 years ago. Her father was American and her mother was German. Very attractive physically but I'm afraid her service was not all that good.
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[QUOTE=HappyTour;2879034]Thanks to Anyone who want to stop visiting sharks. The less customers the less competition for attractive girls. Subsequently the pressure of hiking prices would also diminish. Thus would turn into buyers' market.
I don't mind pay 200/60 for the most beautiful beauties with best service attitude. But I don't want to see too many While complaining about the prices being too high, but also competing with me for attractive women.
So the win-win situation is that:
1) some guys [B]save their precious toil and sweat hardest-earned money [/B] by stop visiting Sharks.
2) I get attractive women with less competition and cost-effectiveness.
Recently I offered 1000 euro to book Maria from 2 pm to 11 pm on a Thursday, but she politely declined in indirect way. She said many guests were waiting for her. I knew most customers only book her 100/30 at that slow day but she still got enough business because too many guys competed with me. So from 2 pm to 11 pm she could easily earn 1000 in 9 hours.[/QUOTE]IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2881068]For my many visits, no problem with Sharks staff and desk even improved, but I agree for the big fall for Sharks casting and Oase is better value now with less upselling, even less girls, but quantity don t make quality as I so often wrote. 1 high level to repeat, weekly for a guy like me, is better than mass who upsell for only average.[/QUOTE]I think its because you are European tourist. Most girls cannot speak German so they really cannot distinguish. I can only say for Chinese and Asian tourists. They behave differently and try to hunt us and charge more. Yes, I was in Oase recently and the line up is pretty decent. I was happy to see the young new star Cleo at Oase. I this she is the current best in Frankfurt area.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2881176]IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.[/QUOTE]In addition to how tolerable / intolerable it would be to spend 9 hours with the particular client, value to the girl is likely ultimately determined by time and day of the week / how many other guests in the club. 1000 e guaranteed at 12 pm on Tuesday may be a great deal. 1000 e for a high earner at 4 pm Saturday may mean she takes a loss for more hours spent in the room.
It's funny how only 3 years ago, this would have been an absurd discussion.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2881176]IMHO 1000/9 hours is way too low for THE top girl like Maria even if you are a very attractive man. Top girl makes 250-300/ h because of extra service like DFK CIM, and many 30 min sessions finishes in 15 min, which makes it even higher. And My understanding is that she has a continuous flow of customers all day without much effort.[/QUOTE]I would probably say even more than that, 1000/9 hrs is probably the kind of offer that will make them not want to spend any time with you, again you may think of your self as a stud, but the girls are there not there because they just love spending time with random dudes, sure yeah many of them actually do enjoy sex but I hope everyone involved here understands that in most cases they are there because of circumstance, yes by their own choice, sure no one is forcing them to be there, but they are there to make money first and foremost.
Sure there may be day that she's not in the mood and sitting with someone just to kill time for 1000 may sounds like a decent deal considering you are not talking about 9 hrs of continuous action but, again they can make much more than that on average and that's what they are there to do.
Generally in a place like sharks if they are not in the mood they just do not come as it is the case with Maria, so if she's there then yes 1000/9 hrs is not going to cut it.
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[QUOTE=EscapeArtist;2881227]In addition to how tolerable / intolerable it would be to spend 9 hours with the particular client, value to the girl is likely ultimately determined by time and day of the week / how many other guests in the club. 1000 e guaranteed at 12 pm on Tuesday may be a great deal. 1000 e for a high earner at 4 pm Saturday may mean she takes a loss for more hours spent in the room.
It's funny how only 3 years ago, this would have been an absurd discussion.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure this is funny to have this board flooded with discussion on rates, I would prefer to read reviews and sex experience but fact is that the hobby is turning in a very unpleasant situation with the current requested rates and it will continue as long as you guys carry on visiting and paying such prices. I don't have much hope but I wish management will loose business and regulate the prices to get customers back. Club is pretty much dead till 7 pm Monday to Thursday, slightly busy after 7 pm and busy as usual Friday and Saturday, I hope the loss of revenue for the club vs pre covid will trigger a regulation of rates charged by the girls but not sure that can happen.
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[QUOTE=TimCreek;2881240]I would probably say even more than that, 1000/9 hrs is probably the kind of offer that will make them not want to spend any time with you, again you may think of your self as a stud, but the girls are there not there because they just love spending time with random dudes, sure yeah many of them actually do enjoy sex but I hope everyone involved here understands that in most cases they are there because of circumstance, yes by their own choice, sure no one is forcing them to be there, but they are there to make money first and foremost.
Sure there may be day that she's not in the mood and sitting with someone just to kill time for 1000 may sounds like a decent deal considering you are not talking about 9 hrs of continuous action but, again they can make much more than that on average and that's what they are there to do.
Generally in a place like sharks if they are not in the mood they just do not come as it is the case with Maria, so if she's there then yes 1000/9 hrs is not going to cut it.[/QUOTE]I also think that she may be booked by VIP and I heard that they usually book girl for 3-5 hours at 300-400/ h rate (including generous tip). One girl told me that one VIP paid her 500 E / h. If she takes 9 hours deal at even 1800 euro, she may lose a VIP call (which happens at any random moment).
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My point is that €1000/9 h is a great deal for 97% of girls. But it's a really shitty deal for Maria, who is the top 0. 3%. Remember that the top girl makes €2000-3000 a day.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2881289]My point is that 1000/9 h is a great deal for 97% of girls. But it's a really shitty deal for Maria, who is the top 0. 3%. Remember that the top girl makes 2000-3000 a day.[/QUOTE]If You knew a bit Maria, she usually doesn't work for so many hours and I doubt she would stay for whole day if You don't speak Russian, even if You pay 200 per hour. A pretty face, but not exceptionnal, even natural, body. Tornado in bed, but less sensual than average for a ex CCCP, even she never knew. No high skill. I rank her at 100/35/40 for our 2 rooms, helped by my Russian. I know higher skills at Sharks and in Germany. Great combo at Sharks would be Maria face with less heavy make up, on Katalea or Brenda body, with Tara skill in bed, then I could agree for 200/60 , when since July, I didn't see any worthing 200/60 for look.
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[QUOTE=David1266;2881289]My point is that 1000/9 h is a great deal for 97% of girls. But it's a really shitty deal for Maria, who is the top 0. 3%. Remember that the top girl makes 2000-3000 a day.[/QUOTE]Just urban legends. With their new rates, most girls make less money at the end of month than they made when they were busy at 50 per 30 . But they make more cellulite on ass.
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[QUOTE=Long420;2881223]I think its because you are European tourist. Most girls cannot speak German so they really cannot distinguish. I can only say for Chinese and Asian tourists. They behave differently and try to hunt us and charge more. Yes, I was in Oase recently and the line up is pretty decent. I was happy to see the young new star Cleo at Oase. I this she is the current best in Frankfurt area.[/QUOTE]Many Asian types visit and return to Sharks. Yes, girls try to fuck these types when most are easy business and Sharks is now what was Oase on 2016 , upselling land for tourists, when I agree Oase may be now a better value for money for girls and can find prettier than at Sharks where more quantity than wow looks. Not only Sharks in Germany, just for tourists who don t know else. If You look for quality, You don t go for Sharks casting at the moment.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2881295]For the past two decades, Germany has welcome Millions of International visitors from around the world for Trade shows.
International Motor Show.
Frankfurt Book Fair.
IFA.
Bauhaus.
The first visitors of FKK were the Germans, followed by the Italians, then French, then Dutch, then Japanese, then Koreans, then Chinese.
None of these trade shows or Europeans or Asians has affected the price of FKK. The price remained 50 for 30 minutes for two decades.
Then the US tourists arrived polluting the girls and telling them how much they could make if they worked in the US.
The US tourists started to tip the girls 50 euro and one by one the dominos began to tumble.
The Hessen region became polluted with these tourist that come for July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Don't give them any advice. There is nothing to share. They only destroy what we built for 20 years.[/QUOTE]I find it very difficult to swallow that. The very reason Americans travel all the way to Germany is for cheap sex. Back in the day it was 50/30 and 100/60. Perhaps a few may have tipped and that tip may have just been EUR20 or so. You cannot paint all Americans with the same brush.
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[QUOTE=SobeLizard;2881295]For the past two decades, Germany has welcome Millions of International visitors from around the world for Trade shows.
International Motor Show.
Frankfurt Book Fair.
IFA.
Bauhaus.
The first visitors of FKK were the Germans, followed by the Italians, then French, then Dutch, then Japanese, then Koreans, then Chinese.
None of these trade shows or Europeans or Asians has affected the price of FKK. The price remained 50 for 30 minutes for two decades.
Then the US tourists arrived polluting the girls and telling them how much they could make if they worked in the US.
The US tourists started to tip the girls 50 euro and one by one the dominos began to tumble.
The Hessen region became polluted with these tourist that come for July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas.
Don't give them any advice. There is nothing to share. They only destroy what we built for 20 years.[/QUOTE]The hike in prices has zero to do with Americans overpaying, and it has everything to do with what Germans did to their own institutions. The imposition of the condom law for BJs created an opening for greedy, unscrupulous prostitutes to take advantage of the situation and tack on a 50 euro surcharge for [B]everybody[/B], regardless of nationality, who wanted to keep on getting BBBJs, which was virtually every monger. I'm sure that many with regulars who they gave steady business to were able to stay at the old rates, but for everybody else it was pretty much pay up or give it up. It has nothing to do with American tourism to Germany. The situation came about because of the Germans themselves with their interfering laws, plus inflationary pressures. People are always great for blaming others for all of their problems!
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2880718]When mostly tourists here, but You should read german lustscout for Germans and locals, to understand better what became Sharks. Under lockdown, Germans started to pay 100/30 or 150/60 , when only Melissa ex Palace asked 150/60 before covid and still on same rate. Now they pay 250/60 for Elektra or Simona I would not pay for. Some Germans proposed thousands to my rare German I paid 150/60 or 200/80 and she asked to repeat. Some are turning crazy for little Romanians looking like schoolgirl, or when a fresh natural German.[/QUOTE]Been a member there since the site opened. It's basically a Sharks thread much like this site as other clubs also get vastly ignored. Even there, most posters are not locals. German yes, but most are not local.
As for Germans paying tourist rates, they are mostly only guilty of paying 100 per 30 minutes. Rarely do the Germans contribute to the 200/ hour price gouge much less the 250/ HR or 150/30 rate. I assume that they know that for 200/ HR, they can make an appointment with their escort of choice without having to wait or pay an entrance fee.
I'll reiterate, paying 200/ HR at an FKK is dumb mongering, no matter how much someone justifies a girl is worth. It's still an FKK where prices are supposed to allow for quantity of rooms, not one great room. Quality is important but for an FKK sauna club, quantity is supposed to be prioritized. If quality is the priority, the monger should not be in an FKK destroying the concept with their out-of-place justification of ridiculous pricing.
People can talk about tourists but anyone paying 200 for an hour without extras is guilty of contributing to this bad situation themselves.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2881450]I find it very difficult to swallow that. The very reason Americans travel all the way to Germany is for cheap sex. Back in the day it was 50/30 and 100/60. Perhaps a few may have tipped and that tip may have just been EUR20 or so. You cannot paint all Americans with the same brush.[/QUOTE]The original assumption that Americans didn't arrive til later is incorrect. They were at the same Trade Fairs as the rest of the world. Especially by the start of the 90's Maybe not every trade but enough. But happy to be the scape goat for why the entire industry got expensive. I did once tip a girl.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2881390]Just urban legends. With their new rates, most girls make less money at the end of month than they made when they were busy at 50 per 30 . But they make more cellulite on ass.[/QUOTE]I second this. Even at the new rates, top girls are not making 2000-3000 per day. Yes they may make 2000 to 3000 on a great day but the reality is that they are taking more 30 minute rooms at the 100 e rate and less one hour rooms altogether. Who knows what the actual average daily take-home is for the girls these days but it's not enough to cause a flood of fresh girls, nor a massive exodus beyond the initial post-lockdown exodus. That probably means that incomes are likely much the same as before.
Not a single girl at Sharks is continuously booked. The market is just not supporting that. I saw a rare room wait at Sharks a couple of weeks ago. Four couples were ahead of me but the wait was only about 10 minutes. This means everyone is taking "30 minute" rooms rather than long rooms. And by "30 minutes," I mean quick fuck 20 minute minute rooms.
In the end, what happens is that the top girls win. All girls make less rooms but the top girls end up making the same money for less rooms and time in rooms. I don't even see the top girls disappearing for hours so it seems that they are just taking in 100 e at a time, maybe 150 e with an extra. And even the busiest girls are not doing 15-20 rooms per day.
One of my regulars who is rarely talked about on this board but is popular on the German boards openly stated to me that 500 e on a slow day is okay, 1000 e is usually the goal, and 2000 e is a great day.