Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Balboa;2291552]Oh really? LOL.

Depends on the gringo, brotha.

Pretty wide Bell Curve of gringos.

Not all are built alike, or hard to be seen with or be with.[/QUOTE]Most of these younger hotter girls have social statuses in their own hood. At times, regardless of how young the gringo might be they still don't want to be seen with them because their peers will judge them.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2291546]I have done an extended stay in Bello and I don't remember spotting many gringos, maybe a few at most. The only gringos I saw were the friends I invited over. [/QUOTE]I know a few gringos that live in Bello and I ride my bike up there about once a week and I often see gringos in Bello and Niquia as well. No biggie. I see them all over Medellin. I don't think it is a bad thing. Definitely don't see nearly as many as I see in other parts for obvious reasons. I've gone all the way out to Copacabana and Barbosa and saw gringos out there too.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2291136]For the adventurous types that would like to venture out to a local Medellin spot full of hot paisas, clubs, bars and street food, I'll recommend la 45 in Manrique or Obrero in Bello. My first time in la 45 a couple years back was when a girl I connected well with working at Energy invited me there for a bday party. The experience was crazy fun. I was the only guy at the table with 5-6 hot paisas. Of course, I wouldn't recommend going alone, best way is to go with a local chick you connect with who lives in or knows the area. If you're younger, speak decent Spanish, and looking for fun, eye opening, non gringo experience, la 45 is a nice spot to check out. It's def not for the faint of heart, but the party scene is like lleras on speed with hot young paisas and 0 foreigners. BTW, there's lots of youngsters in that area so got to make sure to check cedula. I'm a chino in my 30's so I stand out, but I dress and speak like a local. I always say I'm a chino paisa.

Every time I return to MDE, I always check out la 45 at least once. I'll be in Medellin next month, anyone down to check out la 45 with me, hit me up. Can't beat 50 mil bottle service! Enough to supply 3-4 girls and myself.[/QUOTE]My experience of Manrique. I am almost twice your age, very tall, green eyes and blondish hair so I stick out anywhere I go especially the few nights I went with a paisa chick and her 8 or 9 friends to this area, this was about 8 months back, your right zero gringos, 99% of everyone there is in their 20's to early 30's, little to no prepagos just the locals out to drink and dance and have fun.

I am tempted to visit again but yes only with a friend or two.

The Tall Man.

Thanks for the great report, nicely done. I don't remember seeing the ATM thing you mentioned. Maybe it's the cards you are using? I've always gotten very competitive exchange rates. The ATM fees can get silly unless you have a card that refunds them. I don't think about it much until the end of the month when I see the refunds on my statement. It can really add up quickly.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2291548]Since FB girls were not as responsive, I went to check out apparently the two best stripe clubs in town.

First The girls La Isla. Paid the 10 mil cover and security were quite nice after that. They do try to take care of the customer if you don't come across as a jerk. Anyway entered and it was relatively quiet. One really hot 9/10 and the rest were 7-8 and some even 5-6. Drinks were 25 k for a beer. So sat had a beer and took in the scene. The girls would come by for tips and you basically got a 5 sec lap dance, and you could gripe and you put the 2 mil in their hating or somewhere like that. Some came bare breasted and others with bikini top on. The 9/10 was clearly in demand and her attitude reflected that. She would also go to the back a couple of times in the 2 hrs or so I was there. Didn't feel like sessioning and left around 1 am. They call trusted cabs there who charge you a bit more but at that hour you want to be safe and 10 v 20 mil is not what I care about. The place is up in the hilly area heading back towards the airport I think. On my way back, got pulled over by the cops, someone mentioned the same thing earlier, they just asked me to disembark and to see my documents, then they were jovial about how I was checking out the Chicas, and I told them yes senor only to look, we had a chuckle and back in and back to my hotel..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2291548]Other helpful tips learnt. When you withdraw cash from the ATM, the machine will offer you a rate and make it sound like that's your only option, always click decline that rate and then it defaults to the MasterCard or Visa rate and it will still dispense the cash. If you click yes then you are offering the bank the opportunity to change at their rate.[/QUOTE]This is great, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Very annoyed at ATM showing me rate of 3800 for GBP when the rate is 4000 and I know that my card gives me bank rate. They are cheeky then, they don't offer you an option to change it, it looks likes if you hit cancel you can't continue to do withdrawal. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2289267]I haven't mongered in the USA in about 35 years. Is it really cheaper even when you factor in the transportation and housing costs of traveling to Medellin, etc.?[/QUOTE]I'm a late to the action but I'll give my 2 cents. Obviously it depends on quite a few things. I'm paying about 500-600 for a round trip flight to MDE accounting for taxi / Uber costs in the US as well as the flight itself. This is my biggest initial cost. The longer I stay, the more value you get out of my trip. Accommodations was $25/ day with an Airbnb coupon for what I consider to be a very adequate place in Laureles. I paid $430 in total for my trip. In my city, the lowest rate / HR I can easily find for a girl that meets my standard is $220 for Korean AAMP. I don't go to the streets in my city since there's enough LE here that it's somewhat risky. The same quality (BBBJ and GFE with CFS) for an hour in MDE I believe is probably about 80 k (or $26 from Centro, but I never got that type of service and my average session was with a Facebook girl who gave me BBFS at my apartment. Cost of that with everything, including round trip taxi is about 190 k or $63. Considering that $157 difference, I make the initial $900-1000 cost back by the 6th session about, or day 3 since I was doing about 2 / day in the beginning. I had 22 sessions during my trip, so it really really worked out for me. Additionally I've gotten services that would have made it much more expensive in the US, like taking videos.

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2291622]This is great, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Very annoyed at ATM showing me rate of 3800 for GBP when the rate is 4000 and I know that my card gives me bank rate. They are cheeky then, they don't offer you an option to change it, it looks likes if you hit cancel you can't continue to do withdrawal. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Davivienda has no fees and their ATMs should be very common. When I calculated the amount of USD withdrawn from my checking account, the conversion rate was 0. 6% off of the official rate that day as reported by Google. They never prompted me to approve an exchange rate. Probably BBVA is the same but I have no experience using one of their ATMs.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2291546]Any place can be as dangerous as you make it, so I guess I'll say Bello is very dangerous, stay away! .[/QUOTE]Keeping it real, if anyone is planning to be in this area anytime soon try to stay abreast of what is going on there before you go. This is something I always do since I am anywhere in the city on any given day.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2291572]My experience of Manrique. I am almost twice your age, very tall, green eyes and blondish hair so I stick out anywhere I go especially the few nights I went with a paisa chick and her 8 or 9 friends to this area, this was about 8 months back, your right zero gringos, 99% of everyone there is in their 20's to early 30's, little to no prepagos just the locals out to drink and dance and have fun.

I am tempted to visit again but yes only with a friend or two.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Even if you stick out. Your fine. The most important thing for an 18 year old - 24 year old chick is she goes to club and dances and impresses her friends that she is cool with the songs. You know how to dance to what young chicks like now which is Latin Trap, reggaeton, hip hop chicks will want to hang with you and be seen with you in the club. The club everyone watches each other to see who is about it. You all have to know that from experience. J Balvin from Columbia is doing it. You do not know who he is then your out of touch with what young chicks like to listen too.

[QUOTE=Revere;2291781]Even if you stick out. Your fine. You all have to know that from experience. J Balvin from Columbia is doing it. You do not know who he is then your out of touch with what young chicks like to listen too.[/QUOTE]Also good to know:

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2291589]Thanks for the great report, nicely done. I don't remember seeing the ATM thing you mentioned. Maybe it's the cards you are using? I've always gotten very competitive exchange rates. The ATM fees can get silly unless you have a card that refunds them. I don't think about it much until the end of the month when I see the refunds on my statement. It can really add up quickly.[/QUOTE]Davivienda does not charge local ATM fees. But of course they try and hit you with that subpar forex trick.

Other ATMs may be giving more competitive rates and but charge ATM fees. They will try and get you somewhere. Jajaja.

Once I figured out this however, I have been pretty happy pullongnoit cash. My bank ATM fees are refunded, no local ATM fees and the MasterCard exchange rate. That's the trifecta. As a result I have gone cash only for everything and it's just faster and less complicated not to mention leaves no spending fingerprint. Some places were tacking on 5% credit card fees even. Cash is just less complicated once you figure out the best way to get it. Friction costs can get ridiculous as a percentage of money spent esp. When doing multiple small withdrawals.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but that has not been my experience. I don't consider any of the girls I have been out with to be "bottom of the barrel. " To the contrary. I should also note that we do not hang out in their barrio. These girls are not from Aranjuez or Manrique. They only go their to party. We have a good time. Nobody bothers us. Further, I should note that I have met some of their families.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2291535]I don't think most of these girls who are 18-22 years old want to be seen with a 50-60 year old gringo in their hood where they most likely have bfs and their families.

Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.[/QUOTE]

The hot young paisas are also into EDM / techno music enhanced by tussi (pink party favors). Fucking on tussi or popper is a whole different ball game, but granted it's not for everyone. I don't think girls care whether they want to be seen with or without you. Most of the young dudes in the barrios are patos so girls don't really give a shit about them. Show the girls a good time and you will have a great time.

[QUOTE=Revere;2291781]Even if you stick out. Your fine. The most important thing for an 18 year old - 24 year old chick is she goes to club and dances and impresses her friends that she is cool with the songs. You know how to dance to what young chicks like now which is Latin Trap, reggaeton, hip hop chicks will want to hang with you and be seen with you in the club. The club everyone watches each other to see who is about it. You all have to know that from experience. J Balvin from Columbia is doing it. You do not know who he is then your out of touch with what young chicks like to listen too.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2289526]If this is your first time in Colombia then yes I would say Medellin or Cartegena.[/QUOTE]Yes, first time. I am specialized in Eastern Europe but I recently was told that in Colombia your girls with big boobs are easily available, loool. How does the acquisition work in Colombia? Can I just fly there, walk around on the street, talk to them and then take them home? Or is there another approach needed?

[QUOTE=MichiT;2291870]Yes, first time. I am specialized in Eastern Europe but I recently was told that in Colombia your girls with big boobs are easily available, loool. How does the acquisition work in Colombia? Can I just fly there, walk around on the street, talk to them and then take them home? Or is there another approach needed?[/QUOTE]Many different options. Massage parlors Facebook girls strip clubs. If you're not on too much of a budget I'the go to Fase Dos and Energy massage parlor.

I now remember seeing this. I automatically decline it so I don't even think about it. I remember the first time I saw it I thought to myself "that is a ridiculous deal, who would accept that?

[QUOTE=SeanEZ;2291622]This is great, I'll give it a try tomorrow. Very annoyed at ATM showing me rate of 3800 for GBP when the rate is 4000 and I know that my card gives me bank rate. They are cheeky then, they don't offer you an option to change it, it looks likes if you hit cancel you can't continue to do withdrawal. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2291519]People have said Medellin is being overrun with gringos or even ruined by them. I'll say that is true to a certain extent if you limit yourself to the Poblado area. But if you go out of the gringo zones, there's still lots of spots where foreigners are non existent and still have an X factor. Nothing like walking thru a barrio and have girls checking you out for being unique and exotic. Barrios in the Robledo, Aranjuez, Bello, Belen, Manrique reas are the best. Like Colombialover and I said before, best method is to go with a local and you'll have a blast! Make sure to bring comfortable walking shoes. Nothing impresses a girl more than you knowing her barrio like the back of your hand.[/QUOTE]I've been to the barrios a few times and its very easy to hook up with barrio girls. I don't. However, I've chatted with some in my poor Spanish. All you have to do is to initiate conversation, they are not like stuck up American girls and will always respond to you. Its up to you to take it further. I prefer to monger though, less hassle.

The way I do my Colombian trips is to start with the hot and passionate paisas I have a past connection with, then work on some civvie action on the side (more misses than hits) and then check out new fb / seeking arrangement contacts for dates. I run out of time fast even on extended stays, but I try to do all 3. All the while I am immersing myself back into the paisa life, culture, and party scene.

If you already know conversational Spanish, then work on Paisa Spanish, meaning the local slangs / phrases / sayings, great convo starter and easily impresses the civvie chicas and even the working ones too, not like they need it. But it does enhance your bedside experience when a girl shows some interest in you. Once you show love and respect for their culture, it will be returned to you 2 fold. I should write a screenplay for a telenovela appropriately named, "El Chino con Las Paisas". I have material for a good 20 episode series haha.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2291974]I've been to the barrios a few times and its very easy to hook up with barrio girls. I don't. However, I've chatted with some in my poor Spanish. All you have to do is to initiate conversation, they are not like stuck up American girls and will always respond to you. Its up to you to take it further. I prefer to monger though, less hassle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichiT;2291870]Yes, first time. I am specialized in Eastern Europe but I recently was told that in Colombia your girls with big boobs are easily available, loool. How does the acquisition work in Colombia? Can I just fly there, walk around on the street, talk to them and then take them home? Or is there another approach needed?[/QUOTE]I'd say the easiest is to hit the strip clubs, on a Fri or Sat night as many as 50 girls on, many will be quite chesty, you can use a room on site and if you hit it off make arrangements to see her later, the next day, ect. $28 US on site +- at the Centro Clubs, $64 US at the swankier club Fase II. [URL]https://fasedosclub.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Balboa;2291552]Oh really? LOL.

Depends on the gringo, brotha.

Pretty wide Bell Curve of gringos.

Not all are built alike, or hard to be seen with or be with.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this one. This seems like one of those "this is the way I think most girls feel, because it's how I would feel" opinions, rather than an exhaustive survey of several hundred thousand paisas.

1. It depends on the gringo. Some gringos nobody wants to be seen with.

2. It depends on the girl. Some girls don't want to mix work with their home life. In some cases, there's an embarrassment factor. Some are ashamed to show gringos how they live.

3. It depends on the interactions between the guy and the girl. If you're approaching each girl as just something to fuck, she might feel reluctant to go walking around with you.

Even though I've been described as a grotesque cross between Quasimodo and a werewolf (this may not be an accurate characterization), none of the women I've spent time in public with have shown any reluctance to be seen with me. My roommate and I did almost everything together. Malls, theaters, grocery stores, clothes shopping, home goods, plus dozens of restaurants and bars, from Bello to Sabaneta. Very rarely did anyone give us a second look.

A few of the girls I saw invited me to their homes and volunteered to show me their neighborhood. Was with one girl when we bumped into one of her cousins and there was no hesitation in introducing me to her.

Age difference isn't as big of a deal in Colombia. What would most US parents think about their 20 something daughter sharing an apartment with a man in his 50's? My roommate's mother treated me like I was one of the family. Her boyfriend, who only came to town every few weeks, accepted me with no issues. Her friends were the same.

However, I'm respectful. When I'm in public with a girl, I'm not groping her or hanging all over her. There's no difference in my behavior whether I'm walking with a friend, or a girl I'm seeing for sex and companionship.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2291974]I've been to the barrios a few times and its very easy to hook up with barrio girls. I don't.[/QUOTE]All of the girls we meet are barrio girls, whether we meet them on Facebook or a casa, strip club wherever, they come from the barrio.

Has anyone had a session with the Colombia Fuckfest girls from when bangbros was in Medellin.

I saw two of them at Gustos. Samantha Lopez and Camila Jones. Spoke to Camila she wanted 300 usd but didn't seem like she would be fun in the sack so I passed.

Anyone want to share info? Pm me.

https://mobile.bangbros.com/websites/colombiafuckfest

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2291535]Only bottom of the barrel girls would want to be seen with a gringo in public in their neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily bottom of the barrel, more like known, obvious putas. Any chica who is a known puta wouldn't care about being seen with an old gringo in her barrio.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2291136]Every time I return to MDE, I always check out la 45 at least once. I'll be in Medellin next month, anyone down to check out la 45 with me, hit me up. Can't beat 50 mil bottle service! Enough to supply 3-4 girls and myself.[/QUOTE]Will be in town Mar 24 - 29th. Will you be there during the same time?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2292308]Has anyone had a session with the Colombia Fuckfest girls from when bangbros was in Medellin.

I saw two of them at Gustos. Samantha Lopez and Camila Jones. Spoke to Camila she wanted 300 usd but didn't seem like she would be fun in the sack so I passed.

Anyone want to share info? Pm me.

https://mobile.bangbros.com/websites/colombiafuckfest[/QUOTE]Curious about this as well. Would have paid whatever Samantha would have wanted. Had my eye on her for awhile, if anyone can get contact info, would be great.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2292308]Has anyone had a session with the Colombia Fuckfest girls from when bangbros was in Medellin.

I saw two of them at Gustos. Samantha Lopez and Camila Jones. Spoke to Camila she wanted 300 usd but didn't seem like she would be fun in the sack so I passed.

Anyone want to share info? Pm me.

https://mobile.bangbros.com/websites/colombiafuckfest[/QUOTE]Looks like they were a lots of fun to the bros, jajajajaja and you saw them at Gustos, when? I wonder how much they were paid for the videos, any idea?

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2292391]Looks like they were a lots of fun to the bros, jajajajaja and you saw them at Gustos, when? I wonder how much they were paid for the videos, any idea?[/QUOTE]Back in the old Rio days the chicks used to get paid $500 to do a video. It was an 8 hour day that consisted of mostly doing hair and make-up.

Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.

Went to visit Yakuza, which is about 2 blocks down from my hotel. One cutie called Katerina offered 50 k uncovered. I almost bit, but I was a bit drunk at the time, and I like to be sober when I visit these places. Next I tried to visit Conejitas, but could not find it. Ended up at two other places. Trabena Victoria and it was ok. Nothing special inside. Just a strip club with drinks for 5. 5 k. Not sure if it was a gringo price or not. Girls for 40 there. One girl was doable, but I declined. Next was Girl Nueva Avendia. Alot of cute girls there. There was one cute morena there and she was definitely doable. I felt the place was a bit pushy, because the doorman wanted a propina in the was of a club columbia. After the dancing the girls would walk around asking for tips.

Almost next door (a few doors down) there are strip clubs. I went inside about 7 and not much going on there. They wanted 20 K for beer and I thought that was a bit much, so I only went inside and looked around. I guess the there are more girls there after 8, anyway that is what the doorman said. Just down from that place was another strip club and it was about the same, with 20 K for drinks and only a few girls inside. I don't remember the names of these places, but I think one of them was called Club Maracaibo. If so then they are overcharging way too much for beers from what I have read on the board.

Anyway, it was only an expedition to check out the surrounding. Will try to look for other places today.

EDIT: I could not find where the 60K hookers were at. Vera Cruz area?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2292303]All of the girls we meet are barrio girls, whether we meet them on Facebook or a casa, strip club wherever, they come from the barrio.[/QUOTE]There's a housekeeper in my hotel who's always initiating conversation with me and my broken Spanish. She's somewhere in her 20's, I'd rate her a 6. Definitely doable. Its been a long while since a civvy looked at me the way she does, I know she'd drop her panties for me in a second. However, hooking up with her would mean sex with less chicas than I planned. Must stay focussed.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2292559]Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.[/QUOTE]I think the key here is "I was a bit drunk at the time. " It's probably a good thing you didn't wander up by Parque Bolivar or you might have woken up with a tranny.

Conejitas is right in the middle between Taberna Victoria and Grill Nueva Avenida. Barra Ejecutiva and Club Maracaibo are about 3 blocks away from Grill Nueva Avenida. The strip clubs tend to be pretty slow until later at night.

I think the 60 k girls you're referring to are found in the Raudal area. From Taberna Victoria, head West 2 blocks. You'll see them starting at the corner and continuing about a half block north.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2292559]Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.

Went to visit Yakuza, which is about 2 blocks down from my hotel. One cutie called Katerina offered 50 k uncovered. I almost bit, but I was a bit drunk at the time, and I like to be sober when I visit these places. Next I tried to visit Conejitas, but could not find it.[/QUOTE]Conejitas is in the same block as Grille Nueva Ave, but down on the corner. Maricaibo and the busier Barra Ejectiva are like 50 ft from your hotel (how do you like the Normandia?) out the door to the left.

The 60-80 k street girls are on the same road as Grille Nueva Av but like 2 blocks down to the the corners of Calle 53 & Carr 54. I call it the Raudal block. Here's a map to help you out:

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2292391]Looks like they were a lots of fun to the bros, jajajajaja and you saw them at Gustos, when? I wonder how much they were paid for the videos, any idea?

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Recently as mid January. I heard they get around a million pesos.

There's actually a few girls that did porn at Gustos but only 2 that I know of from the bangbros series. Others have told me a couple of them are Facebook girls.

Just one of the reasons why girls think they are worth so much more than the market price.

When you say uncovered, do you mean BBBJ or BBFS?

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2292559]Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.

Went to visit Yakuza, which is about 2 blocks down from my hotel. One cutie called Katerina offered 50 k uncovered. I almost bit, but I was a bit drunk at the time, and I like to be sober when I visit these places. Next I tried to visit Conejitas, but could not find it. Ended up at two other places. Trabena Victoria and it was ok. Nothing special inside. Just a strip club with drinks for 5. 5 k. Not sure if it was a gringo price or not. Girls for 40 there. One girl was doable, but I declined. Next was Girl Nueva Avendia. Alot of cute girls there. There was one cute morena there and she was definitely doable. I felt the place was a bit pushy, because the doorman wanted a propina in the was of a club columbia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2292559]Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.

Went to visit Yakuza, which is about 2 blocks down from my hotel. One cutie called Katerina offered 50 k uncovered. I almost bit, but I was a bit drunk at the time, and I like to be sober when I visit these places. Next I tried to visit Conejitas, but could not find it. Ended up at two other places. Trabena Victoria and it was ok. Nothing special inside. Just a strip club with drinks for 5. 5 k. Not sure if it was a gringo price or not. Girls for 40 there. One girl was doable, but I declined..[/QUOTE]I actually liked my stay at Normandia, I used it to bang my girl's cousins while she was in class, just in case she showed back up earlier than expected. Only 2 minutes walking distance away from hotel Botero! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2292559]Back in Medellin and some things have changed since my last visit here. The puta situation has changed a bit from what I remember. Its in a different location. This place really is quite enjoyable however. Lots of girls to choose from and I could see staying here for a while.

Last night was my first night back and since I was on an overnight bus from another part of the country, I was just to tired to do anything, but walk around and check out the place. Vera Cruz was a nice too just look around and see all the putas working. There are many different kinds of girls in this area. FIrst 2 I approached offered 40 k for sex covered. The next 2 offered 25 and thirty plus a bit extra for the room, uncovered. Next offered 50 K for an uncovered session at my hotel (Hotel Normandia). The last one offered 15 K plus 6 K for the room. She was a bit on the olderside and I almost felt sorry for her. For 15 K though it might be tempting if I see her again.

Went to visit Yakuza, which is about 2 blocks down from my hotel. One cutie called Katerina offered 50 k uncovered. I almost bit, but I was a bit drunk at the time, and I like to be sober when I visit these places. Next I tried to visit Conejitas, but could not find it. Ended up at two other places. Trabena Victoria and it was ok. Nothing special inside. Just a strip club with drinks for 5. 5 k. Not sure if it was a gringo price or not. Girls for 40 there. One girl was doable, but I declined. Next was Girl Nueva Avendia. Alot of cute girls there. There was one cute morena there and she was definitely doable. I felt the place was a bit pushy, because the doorman wanted a propina in the was of a club columbia. After the dancing the girls would walk around asking for tips.

Almost next door (a few doors down) there are strip clubs. I went inside about 7 and not much going on there. They wanted 20 K for beer and I thought that was a bit much, so I only went inside and looked around. I guess the there are more girls there after 8, anyway that is what the doorman said. Just down from that place was another strip club and it was about the same, with 20 K for drinks and only a few girls inside. I don't remember the names of these places, but I think one of them was called Club Maracaibo. If so then they are overcharging way too much for beers from what I have read on the board.

Anyway, it was only an expedition to check out the surrounding. Will try to look for other places today.

EDIT: I could not find where the 60K hookers were at. Vera Cruz area?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2292598]I think the key here is "I was a bit drunk at the time. " It's probably a good thing you didn't wander up by Parque Bolivar or you might have woken up with a tranny.

Conejitas is right in the middle between Taberna Victoria and Grill Nueva Avenida. Barra Ejecutiva and Club Maracaibo are about 3 blocks away from Grill Nueva Avenida. The strip clubs tend to be pretty slow until later at night.

I think the 60 k girls you're referring to are found in the Raudal area. From Taberna Victoria, head West 2 blocks. You'll see them starting at the corner and continuing about a half block north.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2292620]Conejitas is in the same block as Grille Nueva Ave, but down on the corner. Maricaibo and the busier Barra Ejectiva are like 50 ft from your hotel (how do you like the Normandia?) out the door to the left.

The 60-80 k street girls are on the same road as Grille Nueva Av but like 2 blocks down to the the corners of Calle 53 & Carr 54. I call it the Raudal block. Here's a map to help you out:[/QUOTE]The comments are spot on as to the location, funny that you could not find Conejitas as it is probably has the best signage out of all the places down in the hood, jajajaja.

You must have been drunk as Trabena Victoria has almost never seen a gringo in there since it opened decades ago, hell I have walked by it a thousand times, OK 500 times, and have never even had an incline to check it out but have been into every other bar in this hood.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2292149]I'm with you on this one. This seems like one of those "this is the way I think most girls feel, because it's how I would feel" opinions, rather than an exhaustive survey of several hundred thousand paisas.

1. It depends on the gringo. Some gringos nobody wants to be seen with.

2. It depends on the girl. Some girls don't want to mix work with their home life. In some cases, there's an embarrassment factor. Some are ashamed to show gringos how they live.

3. It depends on the interactions between the guy and the girl. If you're approaching each girl as just something to fuck, she might feel reluctant to go walking around with you.

Even though I've been described as a grotesque cross between Quasimodo and a werewolf (this may not be an accurate characterization), none of the women I've spent time in public with have shown any reluctance to be seen with me. My roommate and I did almost everything together. Malls, theaters, grocery stores, clothes shopping, home goods, plus dozens of restaurants and bars, from Bello to Sabaneta. Very rarely did anyone give us a second look.

A few of the girls I saw invited me to their homes and volunteered to show me their neighborhood. Was with one girl when we bumped into one of her cousins and there was no hesitation in introducing me to her.

Age difference isn't as big of a deal in Colombia. What would most US parents think about their 20 something daughter sharing an apartment with a man in his 50's? My roommate's mother treated me like I was one of the family. Her boyfriend, who only came to town every few weeks, accepted me with no issues. Her friends were the same.

However, I'm respectful. When I'm in public with a girl, I'm not groping her or hanging all over her. There's no difference in my behavior whether I'm walking with a friend, or a girl I'm seeing for sex and companionship.[/QUOTE]I had similar responses when in a chicas home from the family, even who she said was her cousin was friendly, who later I finally realized he was her live-in boyfriend. The first time I was invited for Sunday dinner, I said I will bring the bbq chicken, I asked how many persons for dinner, she said 11, I replied I will bring 3 chickens, she replied, 1 chicken for 6 people, only need to bring 2.

Anyone know of a good club to go to in Parque Lleras with hip hop / raggaetone music? Looking for something like gustos but without free lancers.

And any legit good massage places? Thanks in advance.

This is a slightly dated report.

Energy is my favorite massage place, and I've gone three times recently. First time was around Feb 11. I went by myself during the week and the lineup was short and disappointing. I nonetheless made the best of it with a chica I liked. The second time was Saturday, Feb 16, with a friend in town visiting. The lineup was 20+ and high quality. We each had an excellent session. The most recent time was a week ago today, Thursday, again with my friend, and the place was so crowded that all the rooms were occupied and there was an hour wait to go with a girl. Not an hour wait for the lineup, which seemed extensive despite the occupied chicas, but an hour wait for a room. I couldn't believe it. Our waiting area for the lineup was some place I didn't realize existed, an overflow to the overflow. We left disappointed without any action because we had dinner plans. Previously we were at Tantra, but there lineup was small (6 girls) and so we decided to move on.

Get ready for a price hike at Energy very soon.

[QUOTE=Easian1234;2292647]When you say uncovered, do you mean BBBJ or BBFS?[/QUOTE]I understood that it was supposed to be uncovered sex. She said that she would do a BJ, but I did not find out if it was covered or uncovered.

Wll last night I was robbed. Went to the park barro area and got a girl from there. Went inside the back of a bar and she started to waste time. Use the bathroom, kept telling me to relax, and when I was on the bed with my pants on the floor, she reached in and took my cell phone. I thought something was up by her attitude. Tranquilo, tranquilo she kept saying over and over to me. Well lesson learned. I just won't take my cell phone out with me anymore. It was a cheap cell phone. At least she did not take all my money. I did not have that much on me to begin with so it could have been worse. Lesson learned! I have no planse to go back there until I feel more comfortable with the situation, which my be a long time. I think I will stick to the casas for now. At least its almost the same price and its alot safer.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2293006]Wll last night I was robbed. Went to the park barro area and got a girl from there. Went inside the back of a bar and she started to waste time. Use the bathroom, kept telling me to relax, and when I was on the bed with my pants on the floor, she reached in and took my cell phone.[/QUOTE]I think it was just last week in the Bogota thread that I said not to take off your clothes until they have taken theirs off. Also put everything else you have on top of your pants. Shirt, bag, underwear, hat, whatever.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2292887]Anyone know of a good club to go to in Parque Lleras with hip hop / raggaetone music? Looking for something like gustos but without free lancers.

And any legit good massage places? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Parque Lleras area is only a few blocks in aggregate and jammed with various types of clubs and restaurants. Walk by and see what catches your eyes because some of their music changes from time to time. I don't think you'll find any completely without free-lancers. Even at the upmarket one (not Gustos but I can't remember the name) with black and white decor the girls were clearly in the market. There's a list somewhere on the Colombia forum that has a Pdf file of the massage places. Best to look for that. I don't believe there are any casas in the immediate vicinity of Parque Lleras.

Damn that sucks man. Glad it wasn't worse than it was. But, where is Park Barro? Don't think I have seen that referred to here.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2293006]I understood that it was supposed to be uncovered sex. She said that she would do a BJ, but I did not find out if it was covered or uncovered.

Wll last night I was robbed. Went to the park barro area and got a girl from there. Went inside the back of a bar and she started to waste time. Use the bathroom, kept telling me to relax, and when I was on the bed with my pants on the floor, she reached in and took my cell phone. I thought something was up by her attitude. Tranquilo, tranquilo she kept saying over and over to me. Well lesson learned. I just won't take my cell phone out with me anymore. It was a cheap cell phone. At least she did not take all my money. I did not have that much on me to begin with so it could have been worse. Lesson learned! I have no planse to go back there until I feel more comfortable with the situation, which my be a long time. I think I will stick to the casas for now. At least its almost the same price and its alot safer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2293006]Wll last night I was robbed.[/QUOTE]Bummer. Well I'm going to say that a used ZTE Maven is a good cheapo phone to take out to robbery-prone areas. You can get a lot of old working 4 G LTE phones with cracked screens (who cares if it's not your primary phone) for under $30 on eBay. Enough for maps and other essential apps. I always remember to check 3 things in my pocket whenever I leave somewhere unfamiliar. Wallet, phone, keys. It becomes a habit once you do it enough.

I'm going to guess most mongers have had stuff stolen from them if they've done this enough. Most of the time they don't report it so others don't learn. So I commend you for sharing your experience. I've had two "major" thefts, first was in the US back when Craigslist still had escort ads. My very first outcall. She came in to my home, I paid first, she left without doing anything. Next was in the Philippines, I never used a hotel safe before and thought hiding money in my suitcase was enough. But the girl found it and made an excuse to leave. Everything else was stupid little things like combs or random nick nacks from my room that I don't even notice and is not worth securing.

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2293065]Damn that sucks man. Glad it wasn't worse than it was. But, where is Park Barro? Don't think I have seen that referred to here.[/QUOTE]He meant Parque Berrio I think.

[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2292965]This is a slightly dated report.

Energy is my favorite massage place, and I've gone three times recently. First time was around Feb 11. I went by myself during the week and the lineup was short and disappointing. I nonetheless made the best of it with a chica I liked. The second time was Saturday, Feb 16, with a friend in town visiting. The lineup was 20+ and high quality. We each had an excellent session. The most recent time was a week ago today, Thursday, again with my friend, and the place was so crowded that all the rooms were occupied and there was an hour wait to go with a girl. Not an hour wait for the lineup, which seemed extensive despite the occupied chicas, but an hour wait for a room. I couldn't believe it. Our waiting area for the lineup was some place I didn't realize existed, an overflow to the overflow. We left disappointed without any action because we had dinner plans. Previously we were at Tantra, but there lineup was small (6 girls) and so we decided to move on.

Get ready for a price hike at Energy very soon.[/QUOTE]Well I glad you had at least one good session. I went there a couple days after your Saturday 20+ Quality line up and there was a 11 or 12 line up that was forgettable. I went with one who tried to short me of time, effort everything. My regret is probably that I just didn't walk. The session, her attitude and her body once the clothes came off were all forgettable. So dismal that it became a task to actually finish nutting! Perhaps I should have given it another chance but TBH I was so fed up with the attitude of everyone there that I decided to pass. In talking to the chica she said most days there are 10-12 girls there so I don't think my experience was atypical. Agree Tantra only had half that line up, but my chica was at least a good performer who was unrushed.

And a whole lot more service oriented and GFE. Energy is already higher priced in the Casas. Any hike in price and I suspect the demand will take a hit. Too many other options in Medellin. I am not a fan as I think they are mostly living off word of mouth marketing amongst Gringos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2293133]He meant Parque Berrio I think.[/QUOTE]Every time I walk around the Parque Berrio and Botero Parque areas during the day usually several locals warn me to not have my expensive cellphone in my hands. They are all telling me that there are a lot of cellphones stolen in that area during the day and to put mine in my pocket out of site. Last May I was walking to the San Antonio Metro station from San Diego mall at 7 pm which was stupid. About 2 blocks from the station on a dimly lit street a big black guy tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. I grabbed his arm and pulled it away and ran quickly to an area where many people were outside. Luckily he did not get my phone. He was just standing in front of a closed building and as I passed by him he lunged at me and tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. It scared the shit out of me. Never again will I have my cellphone in site where someone can steal it in that area of town. I was lucky he did not have a gun or a knife on him. He was just looking for an easy victim. I bet he tries to snatch phones from unsuspecting people all the time. So be very careful in and around the San Antonio area at night.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2293006]Wll last night I was robbed. Went to the park barro area and got a girl from there. Went inside the back of a bar and she started to waste time. Use the bathroom, kept telling me to relax, and when I was on the bed with my pants on the floor, she reached in and took my cell phone. I thought something was up by her attitude. Tranquilo, tranquilo she kept saying over and over to me. Well lesson learned. I just won't take my cell phone out with me anymore. It was a cheap cell phone. At least she did not take all my money. I did not have that much on me to begin with so it could have been worse. Lesson learned! I have no planse to go back there until I feel more comfortable with the situation, which my be a long time. I think I will stick to the casas for now. At least its almost the same price and its alot safer.[/QUOTE]1) You mean Parque Berrio, right?

2) Seems like you got robbed inside the bar. What's the name of the bar?

3) If it was in the bar, did you ask for the manager? Not to make a scene necessarily (as a foreigner, the odds are against you) but just to FYI him.

Thanks.

So I usually monger in Tijuana, Mexico but I was curious and looked up escort prices in Medellin. Am I reading this right when they write down their price as 60,000 Colombian pesos which is 20 US Dollars according to Google? $20 gets you these fine ass Colombians? Please confine this somebody. Also, when the ad writes down 90 $, is that 90 mil or 90 USD? Thanks.

It was park berrio. The bar did not have a name and the girl took off somewhere outside the bar, unable to be seen from again. THe woman that was incharge of the money for the short term bed was standing right outside and I told her about it. There was another young man there with here, but what could they do? The phone only cost me 100 USD, so it was not too expensive, but for these people it probably was a real score, that and the 50000 cop that she took from me too. Casas for me for a while.

Just curious about the prices here. Most casas or strip clubs want to charge me 50 K for short time, but I have read on the list its more like 40 K. Is it a gringo price of has the cost gone up?

[QUOTE=Texas007;2293183]Every time I walk around the Parque Berrio and Botero Parque areas during the day usually several locals warn me to not have my expensive cellphone in my hands. They are all telling me that there are a lot of cellphones stolen in that area during the day and to put mine in my pocket out of site. Last May I was walking to the San Antonio Metro station from San Diego mall at 7 pm which was stupid. About 2 blocks from the station on a dimly lit street a big black guy tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. I grabbed his arm and pulled it away and ran quickly to an area where many people were outside. Luckily he did not get my phone. He was just standing in front of a closed building and as I passed by him he lunged at me and tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. It scared the shit out of me. Never again will I have my cellphone in site where someone can steal it in that area of town. I was lucky he did not have a gun or a knife on him. He was just looking for an easy victim. I bet he tries to snatch phones from unsuspecting people all the time. So be very careful in and around the San Antonio area at night.[/QUOTE]From San Diego mall, why would you try to walk to San Antonio station? That's a good mile walk. Either Exposition or Industriales stations are much closer.

As has been stated here many times, don't walk around with your cellphone in your hand. It doesn't matter where you are, or whether it's an expensive phone, or a cheap one. All someone walking by sees is "hey look! Somebody is giving away a cellphone. " They'll gripe about it being a cheap phone later. If every day the locals have to tell you not to do it, you're not a quick learner.

Also don't carry your cellphone where it's easy to steal. Best location is front pants pocket.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2293145]Well I glad you had at least one good session. I went there a couple days after your Saturday 20+ Quality line up and there was a 11 or 12 line up that was forgettable. I went with one who tried to short me of time, effort everything. My regret is probably that I just didn't walk. The session, her attitude and her body once the clothes came off were all forgettable. So dismal that it became a task to actually finish nutting! Perhaps I should have given it another chance but TBH I was so fed up with the attitude of everyone there that I decided to pass. In talking to the chica she said most days there are 10-12 girls there so I don't think my experience was atypical. Agree Tantra only had half that line up, but my chica was at least a good performer who was unrushed.

And a whole lot more service oriented and GFE. Energy is already higher priced in the Casas. Any hike in price and I suspect the demand will take a hit. Too many other options in Medellin. I am not a fan as I think they are mostly living off word of mouth marketing amongst Gringos.[/QUOTE]1. I'm pretty sure the majority of their customers aren't gringos.

2. For people living or working in Laureles, Energy is a convenient alternative.

3. Although priced higher than El Centro casas, the facilities are much nicer, and compared to some casas, much cleaner.

4. Every casa has days when there doesn't seem to be anyone worth seeing. That's when it's a good idea to try another place.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2293145]I am not a fan as I think they are mostly living off word of mouth marketing amongst Gringos.[/QUOTE]I suspect you're right and I should probably stop posting about Energy on here.

I've had some of my best sessions there, but it's extremely hit or miss, and I've had shitty experiences like you describe.

Hit or miss is the name of the game with the casas, though, isn't it? I went to Sexy Amigas recently and had a poor session after having a really solid one there the time before that.

[QUOTE=Texas007;2293183]Every time I walk around the Parque Berrio and Botero Parque areas during the day usually several locals warn me to not have my expensive cellphone in my hands. They are all telling me that there are a lot of cellphones stolen in that area during the day and to put mine in my pocket out of site. Last May I was walking to the San Antonio Metro station from San Diego mall at 7 pm which was stupid. About 2 blocks from the station on a dimly lit street a big black guy tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. I grabbed his arm and pulled it away and ran quickly to an area where many people were outside. Luckily he did not get my phone. He was just standing in front of a closed building and as I passed by him he lunged at me and tried to steal my cellphone from my front shirt pocket. It scared the shit out of me. Never again will I have my cellphone in site where someone can steal it in that area of town. I was lucky he did not have a gun or a knife on him. He was just looking for an easy victim. I bet he tries to snatch phones from unsuspecting people all the time. So be very careful in and around the San Antonio area at night.[/QUOTE]I remember reading of a local who was stabbed to death when he resisted a guy who tried to take his cell phone in Parque Bolivar. Be careful out there.

[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2292965]This is a slightly dated report.

Energy is my favorite massage place, and I've gone three times recently. First time was around Feb 11. I went by myself during the week and the lineup was short and disappointing. I nonetheless made the best of it with a chica I liked. The second time was Saturday, Feb 16, with a friend in town visiting. The lineup was 20+ and high quality. We each had an excellent session. The most recent time was a week ago today, Thursday, again with my friend, and the place was so crowded that all the rooms were occupied and there was an hour wait to go with a girl. Not an hour wait for the lineup, which seemed extensive despite the occupied chicas, but an hour wait for a room. I couldn't believe it. Our waiting area for the lineup was some place I didn't realize existed, an overflow to the overflow. We left disappointed without any action because we had dinner plans. Previously we were at Tantra, but there lineup was small (6 girls) and so we decided to move on.

Get ready for a price hike at Energy very soon.[/QUOTE]I like Energy and Tantra for the facilities. I enjoy a session much more when the facilities are congenial. Sometimes I get fed up of the dinghy rooms in Centro casas (other than New Life) and feel for a change, then I visit Energy or Tantra to psychologically cleanse myself of the grime.

Here part of the Map.

[QUOTE=Fmc858;2293065]Damn that sucks man. Glad it wasn't worse than it was. But, where is Park Barro? Don't think I have seen that referred to here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintLaurent;2293250]So I usually monger in Tijuana, Mexico but I was curious and looked up escort prices in Medellin. Am I reading this right when they write down their price as 60,000 Colombian pesos which is 20 US Dollars according to Google? $20 gets you these fine ass Colombians? Please confine this somebody. Also, when the ad writes down 90 $, is that 90 mil or 90 USD? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yep sireeee that is correct, no shit and this is coming from The Tall Man who has spent much of his time in Tijuana over the past 20+ years, I know it all HK, AB, TB on and on, don't get me wrong I have had some of the finest latina mexican pussy but now it is all commercial business and you pay for it, what does a 30 minute HK girl charge now $80 or $100 plus $18 for room then you got to tip the cum clean up boys a buck or two then the drinks are $9 bucks damn this is for 30 or maybe 45 minutes, your into the one time 30 minutes play for $110 to $140 - you would be shocked what I pay for sometimes all night'ers with really fun paisas. Off the charts.

Note that the escort prices are typically more, check out milerotics or the like and it shows escorts in the 100 to 150 range per hour or two, all depending. The 60 mil or $20 bucks is for a casa or mid level bar girl (room included) or street walker (not my thing) or most preferably an UTR non-pro who needs to pay some bill.

The Tall Man.

Yes, it is all about the facilities at those mid range places. Try AmigasSexy for Centro location with Centro prices and rooms that a smaller but just as clean as Energy / Tantra. Girls at Amigas are generally standard Centro fare.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2293373]I like Energy and Tantra for the facilities. I enjoy a session much more when the facilities are congenial. Sometimes I get fed up of the dinghy rooms in Centro casas (other than New Life) and feel for a change, then I visit Energy or Tantra to psychologically cleanse myself of the grime.[/QUOTE]

Went with this paisa who told me that today was her first day working in a casa and that I was her first customer. I had been to that casa a few times before and did not see her there. She totally displayed the sweetness and body language to be expected of a working girl on her first day on the job. The chemistry evoked from this worked wonders for my libido and I had a great session. She spoke not a lick of English and after the session she mentioned something about a cerveza. I assumed she was asking for a tip to buy some beer which I have gotten in the DR. I thought to myself your first day on the job and already you are seeking a propina. Anyway because I had such a good time I took out COP 20 K and handed it to her. She looked at me quizzically and asked if she is to give it to the mamasan. I mentioned the cerveza and determined that what she had meant was if we could go have a beer later. I could not do that and let her keep the money. She was very happy and asked when I would return. I believe I may have contributed to spoiling this chica by giving her a tip on her first session. My bad.

Don't sweat it, we'll be alright.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2293493]Went with this paisa who told me that today was her first day working in a casa and that I was her first customer. I had been to that casa a few times before and did not see her there. She totally displayed the sweetness and body language to be expected of a working girl on her first day on the job. The chemistry evoked from this worked wonders for my libido and I had a great session. She spoke not a lick of English and after the session she mentioned something about a cerveza. I assumed she was asking for a tip to buy some beer which I have gotten in the DR. I thought to myself your first day on the job and already you are seeking a propina. Anyway because I had such a good time I took out COP 20 K and handed it to her. She looked at me quizzically and asked if she is to give it to the mamasan. I mentioned the cerveza and determined that what she had meant was if we could go have a beer later. I could not do that and let her keep the money. She was very happy and asked when I would return. I believe I may have contributed to spoiling this chica by giving her a tip on her first session. My bad.[/QUOTE]

First off,

Thanks to all of you that have contributed and continue to do so. I have spent several days reading the threads and have already started to make a list of casas and other places to visit. I will be arriving Apri 1st and leaving on the 5th. I know it is a short trip but that's about all I can do right now with my schedule. Plus, my airfare is free (points) and so is my hotel stay (points). I have booked at the Marriott not too far from Parque Lleras. This will be my 2nd type of trip like this with DR being my first early this February.

I am not fluent in Spanish but have a basic understanding and have been refreshing on the main phrases. I would appreciate some feedback if possible.

I am reading that Parque normally isn't busy M-W. Are we talking about a ghost town? Or, are there still ladies and other tourists in the area?

If that area is quiet, do you recommend I just hit up the day action at a casa such as New Life or are there girls in the Parque Lleras during the day time as well? I understand you want to be cautious about bringing these ladies back to your room so casas May turn out to be the safer choice?

Also, I know this is like asking for winning lottery numbers, but if any of you have a provider that you recommend for a good safe experience please let me know. Once again I know some don't like sharing their lists and that's totally understandable.

Also, if you have a contact of a driver or guide that you have used a few times that is bilingual please share as well. I have picked up a few contacts from Trip Advisor and a few from older posts on here but want to make sure they are recent and reliable or.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2293331]1. I'm pretty sure the majority of their customers aren't gringos.

2. For people living or working in Laureles, Energy is a convenient alternative.

3. Although priced higher than El Centro casas, the facilities are much nicer, and compared to some casas, much cleaner.

4. Every casa has days when there doesn't seem to be anyone worth seeing. That's when it's a good idea to try another place.[/QUOTE]Don't take my word for it. The chica that I sessioned with told me the majority of customers were extranjeros. And at that price point etc. I would not be surprised. Most locals tend to partake in the quite extensive apartment scene in Laureles. If you know where you are going the price is lower and the quality potentially better. Do agree facilities are better than central caaas but honestly I did not find tantra facilities any inferior.

I am not knocking energy, it is an alternative but my point is that it is not all it is built up to be. As to the point that the line up is different every day. I suppose the only way to know that is to go multiple days, but I can't say I would find that to be a great use of your time when there are so many options and so limited time for the average visitor from North America.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2293493]Went with this paisa who told me that today was her first day working in a casa and that I was her first customer. I had been to that casa a few times before and did not see her there. She totally displayed the sweetness and body language to be expected of a working girl on her first day on the job. The chemistry evoked from this worked wonders for my libido and I had a great session. She spoke not a lick of English and after the session she mentioned something about a cerveza. I assumed she was asking for a tip to buy some beer which I have gotten in the DR. I thought to myself your first day on the job and already you are seeking a propina. Anyway because I had such a good time I took out COP 20 K and handed it to her. She looked at me quizzically and asked if she is to give it to the mamasan. I mentioned the cerveza and determined that what she had meant was if we could go have a beer later. I could not do that and let her keep the money. She was very happy and asked when I would return. I believe I may have contributed to spoiling this chica by giving her a tip on her first session. My bad.[/QUOTE]Yes perhaps but you will be treated like a king the next time you will see her, jajajaja.

The Tall Man.

Anyone in Medellin between Mar 3 and 6? Would love to meet other folks. DM me.

Pao giraldo.

She quotes 250 mil. I declined but really likes her look. How was your experience?

Rocky.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2293754]Pao giraldo.[/QUOTE]

Wow where do I start.

This is going to be my first TR on this board and first trip to Medellin, here we go!

12:45 AM I flew down from North America to Panama city about 7 hours, with a 50 minute layover, solo, it was perfect. As soon as I got to Panama, I went to the bathroom and brushed my teeth then out to see my plane starting its boarding process en route to MDE. By the way I don't get why so many people dislike COPA airlines, I had a night flight all the way around.

I like that in Panama City the airport worker ladies hot as hell under 22, mulatta will be cleaning the bathroom while I peed, kind of fun!

Flew into MDE and I could feel my heart racing. This was my first trip here and I booked a stay for 10 days, specifically and only Medellin.

Right away I remember reading up that there were white taxi's outside for about $75 k or something if I remember correctly, but I wanted to save on that and use Uber. Right away I experienced the humble and friendly feel of paisa's in Medellin when I smiled at this paisa girl working the candy stall right inside the terminal near the taxistas. We talked, shared smiles and I knew this was going to be a great trip in the city of eternal spring.

1:55 PM Thursday, I remembered that Uber is illegal in MDE so I somewhat hid and kept my phone down as I can feel the taxi guys peering over my shoulder. As a matter of fact, those guys were nice as well! Man MDE is so far so good! They wanted to take me to where I was staying but I politely declined. My uber showed up, and I played it cool like we were long time friends, Buenas! Como vas! Hopped in and off we go! The policia, taxistas and bus driver cared less. P.S. They are building the new tunnel that is supposed to shorten the length of time from the Jose Maria Cordova airport to centro downtown in half the time, form 40'ish minutes to 20 something. I sent the city and crew an email and was told it was supposed to be finished around end of March, so I missed that. It's OK the drive in is beautiful and calming.

I had a pleasant ride and started to pick the ubers brain about a lot of things on my mind and he answered it all! Luckily I got a cool driver, sometimes you get those assholes you simply just want out from. In my opinion, Medellin, almost all the ubers offer their assistance in helping with anything they can. They almost always offer me there number so they can be reached in case I need anything. Anything. Some moonlight as private investigators, students, part time and full workers and always have a connection.

I arrive at my air be and be in Poblado. I did a lot of research and being my first time I wanted somewhere safe and quiet, but close to transportation and other things when I need. My apartment was 8 minutes above Parque Lleras. 3 minutes away from Tesoro Mall. My apartment was nicely furnished, security at the entrance at all times and allowed guests I made sure before I booked that stay. My apartment was somewhat new as the lobby next door had nothing but cement laid out, my entire floor was empty I was the only tenant. When and if I return I was told they are building and occupying the units with full time tenants.

As soon as I unpacked I needed to fuck and get my rocks off so off to centro I go 3:30 PM Thursday. Yes centro, I didn't want to do the bigger clubs. Took an uber into centro and started to walk around. I was completely LOST. Around 4 pm the sun was juuuust starting to go down, or close so I needed to find Ejecutiva bar. At first I was on the right side of the street, I guess that's an old sign or I can't read good but I eventually made it to the street. Met a spinner, tight body, Venezuela chick and we started talking and bought her a drink and a water for me. We hit it off good but I didn't want to fuck her I wanted to see more. I went next door to the other bar with the loooong corridor and stage but no girls, 5:30 pm. One or two but looked boring as hell so I left. I ate butifarra? Sausage on the street and started to get used to using the pesos. Man converting the math and realizing how cheap things were was a big shock to me. Finished and walked and found my way to 53'Road. Where more SG action was. I found it on accident just roaming the streets. BOOM! I liked what I saw but I was worried about checking cedudas as this was my first trip to MDE and I didn't even know what was real or fake IDs, so asking for ceduda would have been a mess for me. Man can someone fill me on this? I liked the spinner scene and what I saw but can I assume the gals in these stairways have cedudas and are good for their anos.

Ended up walking and finding Botero plaza before realizing Conejita and Nueva grill was across the street. Excellent. Again, this whole time, I'm excited a bit nervous about new city surroundings, but felt comfortable. I asked the nice security moreno at the center where Iglesia Veracruz was and found my way.

Now it was night time, and I was roaming the streets when everybody was telling me not to especially since I don't look like a Paisa or even someone from South America. I still felt comfortable and walked around more. Saw chinatown, saw casinos, walked around centro all over until I kept getting lost and starting over again. At one point, I asked this hot 18-19 paisa for directions to El Estadio, futbol, as a front to get her number. I dodged a bullet, almost literally. Her boyfriend came out while I was talking to her JUUSSTT as I was about to say eres hermosa, tiene un novio? He came out malandro style. Young kid baggy pants, grim reaper sickle on his scalp behind his left ear and tattoos all over his scalp and arms and sat next to her sliding next to her on the bench like in the movies, with a sly smile this is mine look. For some reason I was not scared at all when I should have been maybe or others would have shit their pants?? I held my cool and I was calm to the point I even surprised myself. Three of his friends came and surrounded his GF and his friend said I was talking to her. I said very innocently and timid to show them respect, disculpe a donde El Estadio? Futbol estadio, mi amigo dijiste toma el metro en centro, ir a El estadio es facil making up shit on the fly as time ticked before they threw a punch or thought about stabbing me. The tattoo ratero malandro kindly told me, go that way to Botero and take the Metro then something about being dangerous at night don't walk. I said muuuchos gracias a ti why ustedes and I left! Man first day and I almost get into danger because my small head said hit on this girl she's cute! And I left making my way to the metro and botero again for where more police presence was.

I didn't get on the metro obviously, I went to Botero and found Veracruz iglesia eventually didn't see anything I liked at that time. I saw a few spinners and trannies but nothing I wanted to fuck at that time. I loved what I saw there and at 53 d I think it was. I knew I'd be back to both another day when I was more certain about my surroundings and location.

I went to Conejitas 8:20 pm despite the good news on the boards and what people say I found more of my style at Grill Nueva next door. I sat down, right away pulled a gal to fuck in the cramped room in the back. Man the meseros and bartenders are super nice I am loving MDE compared to Mexico at this point. And I'm not mexican by the way.

At Nueva you crawl into this cubby hole where the DJ plays music, into the hidden rooms in the back, it was quite odd. But fun, first time experience in these clubs. I think it was $40 to 50 pesos with this Paisa with decent body to fuck and suck. She did negro besos and ate my booty hole which was fun no upcharge. Odd, she will eat my ass but won't do BBBJ? Hmmm she did offer anal and vagina included so what the hell for that price this is a steal amigos. Like others have stated on the board, in MDE you get it all. Big small tiny round thick thin paisa, costena, mulatta, everything.

Pumped her balloon knot, vagina, came and I was ready to take a uber home back to Poblado to figure things out unpack and get something to eat. At this point I wasn't taking the metro yet.

The next 9 days were action packed, but also still vivid because I covered a lot of ground for my first time walking until I got blisters on my feet and using toilet paper to sooth my toes. I'll leave some bullet points so I don't bore you with the details amigos.

My first casa I found was casa de cita Paris in centro. Super hard to find like everyone says unless you have exact address or block. I had one session with a nice morena who started two months ago, or so she says. The next day I came back and saw nothing, but I met a guy there who took me up the street to this other place called Dulce? I basically asked him politely as we saw the lineup, in espanol, do you know other places because it's my first time and I don't see anything I like here today. He walked me to Dulces about 10 minutes away. I liked it there a lot better, two sessions at Paris and a few at Dulce. I will attach a picture, remind me folks in case I forget, this fine gentleman walked me there and once I finished my session with a beautiful spinner he was gone. The mamasan told me my friend had left long ago. If you are on this board thank you! I believe you were a local paisa from the looks of it, forever grateful thanks!

Another day I had a nice time at New life, but too many gringos and tourists. Saw a few asians and a lot of black Americans waiting there turn. I didn't want to go back. I don't like being in places that have too many English speaking tourists or clients, just doesn't do it for me. I never went back to new life. Tried to find Yakuza and all the other ones but I had a shit show of time looking for them, every day I walked and walked and walked and asked people on the streets who tried to guide me but I lost my way finding other casas, poor me.

Mayorista is my favorite, not for the scaredy cats that's forsure. I had my best sessions there late night around 1 am to 3 am.

Energy Masaje, I went multiple times, so many good memories. I like that they open early at 9 AM but I never went that early. Earliest I went in was maybe around 11 AM and they were up and running.

Parque lleras, met two girls but the cost is insane. Girls wanting to charge $200 k to 300 k get g'damn wowie! I made nice with two separate girls on different occasions. Too many gringos and English spoken there. I did pick up a girl, til this day don't know if she's a working gal, semi pro, pro. But she was eating in front of me at Mario Bros restaurant. I asked the mesera what her deal was and she introduced us. Saw with me, exchanged numbers and later that night I ask her to come my apartment. BBFS, no creampie, spinner dark I was in AWEEEE. Nice fuck I had a great time with her. By the way does anybody know that crazy white american gringo? I was told he used to have a lot of money, business and all then got wrapped up with coke or drugs last few years. I saw him on multiple occasions around Parque Lleras. One night, he apparently fucked this drogadita and didn't pay and she came over arguing with him. Eventually she pulled out a knife, and everyone including me in a a restaurant outside the park jumped up and ran outside as all hell broke loose. He threw chairs, she intimidated him with the shank, and cops were called. The workers say he used to be normal and decent guy and then the drugs. But yeah anyways.

Doggy position in MDE is referred to as cuatro fours I guess, but no doggy or perrito perro.

Transportation is very very efficient and cheap in Medellin. Whether it's bus, uber, taxi, Metro, Cable, it's all very connected and convenient once you feel safe and can navigate on your own otherwise I'd suggest uber taxi until then. I think next time I may buy or rent a motorcycle to get around as traffic during the day weekends futbol games is a MESS. Also days when they close down one lane on the via rapida freeway for cycling can be a bummer too.

Uber friend I made nice with took me to the Gueto ghetto to buy a blunt for 50 cents, I didn't smoke he did. Got stopped by the police on motor bike right away as we turned the corner leaving the place we bought the blunt. Mordida stop between $50 to 100 k pesos, I didn't care I just wanted to leave ASAP.

Luna Lunera a few nights, that was fun but nothing special. One masero told me its required to buy a drink to sit, I told him I'm not drinking tonight only water is that a problem? Very firm and he backed off, we were still good nobody was an asshole but it just needed to be. Going there can be quite intimidating for most since the entrance is way in the back, parking lot.

Fucking hated fase II and La Isla. Sharks, propina propina dollar dollar shit was annoying as fuck. You are basically a vagabundo / homeless girls in a club, get out of my face. I tipped the girls who didn't ask me for propina. I gave them 2 to 5 k each, each time and 10 k. I paid the girls in front of the sharks who begged for propina to spite them. The girls weren't my type either, mostly thicker done up with silicone or bigger women that just didn't get my little guy in my pants hard.

Tried to visit San Diego club, located under the freeway overpass, but didn't get a chance. I needed to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url], and uber took me there after a big Bandeja Paisa meal at Hata Viejo. They asked for cover and I didn't want to pay the $10 k thinking the bathrooms were dirty as hell. I should have tried though. I hear San Diego strip club was nice, but also there are SG's to be had there too? Can someone tell me about this? I hear its more safe than centro SGs but I never saw them and couldn't figure out San Diego Mall streets or the SD strip club street works? Hmmm.

Another uber guy took me around to a few bars I can't remember the name of, but near Laureles? Wasn't carrera 70. But then we also went to a private apartment. All because I told him I was trying to find try something new without the sg club escorts and he proposed we go to this apartamento. This girl and he were texting back and forth and I proposed we do a foursome which I never done, and swap girls he said sure why not. He exchanged texts and calls with a girl while were went from bar to bar looking for some honey, he found an ad for online, wasnt Milero or other, I couldn't tell. We go there to this hotel, park his garage inside the garage and lobby guy told us upstairs 10th floor. This was in the city city, near Santa Fe mall, urban area. Residential. A bit sketchy. And we see our prizes. Both very, very bored and not sociable. His girl was so bad he didn't want to touch her. And I get this spinner hot thing. He passed, they waited outside the room. I fuck this spinner tight bod hot thing for 3 minutes and I cum, maybe less like 2 minutes, gave her 60 k pesos and we bolt. She asked me why I was in such a hurry and it was because the whole time she was squiggling so I couldn't penetrate deep, didn't allow BBBJ without a charge, negotiating everything was a huge turn off. When I finished outside a ratero young hoodlum kid maybe her brother friend novio who knows, all was silent with the ugly girl the novio and my uber driver. I tell him lets roll and we start going down the 10 flights of stairs as quickly as possible. We leave and good times!

I ate Salpicon at el estadio a few times at night, watched the beauties play Volleyball, even attended a Nacional game! I bought a few shirts from Tiende Verde and the knockoff places. Across the street is a mall that has Nacional gear, good stuff just not authentic or official like the Verde but better styling. I also went jogging at the track at night one night because I couldn't just eat bandeja paisa all day every day and not exercise. One night of 20 minute jogging did it, plus a lot of eye candy.

Did the free city walking tour, 3 hours, plus tip. Learned a good amount about Medellin, city etc.

Did the pablo grave, the pablo house is fucking stupid, well actually it wasn't the house it was the short dark paisa giving the tour. The tour guide rushed it, asked for a huge tip, because a gringo just came and he needed to do the tour for him. Its ok I got a picture with El Doctors blood brother.

Loutron was shit. Expensive, but worth the visit ONE time just to be in Pablitos mansion. I took a thick girl, busty not my type but whatever I went. Huge mansion a bit dark and depressing though. After my session, I told the mamasan my girl was shit and needs to be fired or worked on. She rushed the BJ, rushed the sex, tried to get me to cum when I said slow down, session was 40 min not 60. Mamasan was offering me discount for future visit I said keep it. I'm not coming back this is a joke. I told her how much better Energy was, and the casa de citas. I'm not one to complain but I had to tell her how shitty the service was in the room. Oh and half asses massage with oil.

Again I am a mayorista, iglesia Veracruz street kind of a guy I guess. Civvie action is fun too. I had more of a time here than Loutron or the big clubs, maybe one day I will give the places another shot but I won't go out of my way to do it.

Took the metro A LOT once I got the hang of it. Went to Igatui and all over MDE during the day and night to walk around aimlessly.

Partied in Manrique, went dancing and drinking with the locals there had a super duper time met a lot of civvies. Went to Belen, met a lot of nice people.

Did a coffee tour, sucked. The guy talked my ear off when I was ready to go fuck at Energy, burned 4 hours of my morning and costed me 70 k for a in city coffee tour. Bless his heart he tried to make it a great tour but he went too much into details that I cared less about and again I was ready to go put my dick into a nice tight pussy at Energy. Man they should pay me for this free plug.

Did the comuna 13 tour, I liked the barrio Brasil favela feel. Cool.

Went to Guatape, 2 hours out from Medellin City and swam in a few of the Charcos rivers. Worth a visit once. Took the scenic route home to go through Parque arvi at night and the winding roads. I do like the barrios at night, seeing all the females on motorbikes on their 50's and two strokes wrecking havoc on the streets.

My favorite dish everyday was at minimum one bandeja paisa. Morcilla is sooo damn good. I went to Envigado and had the best bandeja paisa at infamous La Gloria de Gloria.

Wifi at my apartment was hit and miss. Night's in Medellin could be boring as everything closes early including restaurants. I downloaded the Rappi app for food but never used it. Temperature almost everyday was around 70 to 80, a bit warm, soaking wet back, needing to change shirts often. People are super friendly and humble, I will be back.

She's been in the game for good 7 plus years now and a popular prepago. Imagine how much wear and tear that pussy has had over that time and having to pop a baby or 2 in between as well. I remember 150 mil full on GFE, but that was 6 yrs ago during my virgin MDE voyage. Way hotter chicas out there for far less, but you just have to do your own homework. To each his own.

[QUOTE=RockBranca;2293760]She quotes 250 mil. I declined but really likes her look. How was your experience?

Rocky.[/QUOTE]

I posted her FB link last week. She is nice and yes she charges 250 for GFE. Like the guys said prob a lot of wear and tear. She is friendly and looks cute in person.

Silicone.

The bathroom looks clean.

[QUOTE=SurfLooker;2293754]Pao giraldo.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2293838]She's been in the game for good 7 plus years now and a popular prepago. Imagine how much wear and tear that pussy has had over that time and having to pop a baby or 2 in between as well. I remember 150 mil full on GFE, but that was 6 yrs ago during my virgin MDE voyage. Way hotter chicas out there for far less, but you just have to do your own homework. To each his own.[/QUOTE]Yes she is a veteran prepago she probably got a couple of years left before going downhill. She is probably fucking mostly with non Colombians for the price she is asking. A lot of younger and less wear tear pussy girls in Medellin for cheaper price.

[QUOTE=RockBranca;2293760]She quotes 250 mil. I declined but really likes her look. How was your experience?

Rocky.[/QUOTE]For me she was OK, nothing crazy. She keep rolling her eye behind my back when I was not looking. (I had a hidden camera when we did it) She does not like Doggy too much or I might just be bad at it. At the end I made her cum and she want to see me again even if she had to lower her price. But maybe liked me, I look very young for my age and when I go to hotel M the guys tell me I look to good to be there LOL. I think that might have some play into it. But in the end it, she is not worth 250 mil unless your look just for a hot looking girl bang and that it. For that price I would go to Fase II a little less and you can pick for more girls.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2293857]I posted her FB link last week. She is nice and yes she charges 250 for GFE. Like the guys said prob a lot of wear and tear. She is friendly and looks cute in person.[/QUOTE]Did you offer a number first or did you ask her how much and she says 250? That sounds like the second case. No girl has quoted more than 200 k for me if I gave her a number first (usually 150), including girls who at least in my opinion are hotter than this one. One "200 k" girl apparently was sponsored to go to Spain last week.

I recommend this place.

Last week when I was there, there were six chicas. All of them were good looking.

I was introduced to each one, but could I could not remember their names.

So, when the Madam asked which one I liked I told her that I wanted one that would let me do DATY and BBBJ. \.

All six agreed to what I wanted.

She bought all of them back in. It was a tough choice, but I took the chica dressed up as a nurse.

Carrera 43 # 55-49.6-8 Girls. Prices: 45 k 30 min. , 45 min. , 60 k, 1 hour 80 k. 10 visit card gets you 30 min free time. Tel: 579 8615, Cell: 322 810 6277. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm, Sundays and holidays 10:30 am to 4 pm.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2293907]Did you offer a number first or did you ask her how much and she says 250? That sounds like the second case. No girl has quoted more than 200 k for me if I gave her a number first (usually 150), including girls who at least in my opinion are hotter than this one. One "200 k" girl apparently was sponsored to go to Spain last week.[/QUOTE]She told me 250 when I was messaging her. Before I could even ask the price. She's pretty hardened and has been around the block. Usually I offer them 200 with taxi. Since coming to el poblado is a hike for most of these Bello girls.

[QUOTE=LikeItTight;2293776]Wow where do I start.....................I went to Conejitas 8:20 pm despite the good news on the boards and what people say I found more of my style at Grill Nueva next door. I sat down, right away pulled a gal to fuck in the cramped room in the back. Man the meseros and bartenders are super nice I am loving MDE compared to Mexico at this point. And I'm not mexican by the way.

At Nueva you crawl into this cubby hole where the DJ plays music, into the hidden rooms in the back, it was quite odd. But fun, first time experience in these clubs. ....................................[/QUOTE]Probably the best first time TR on Medellin ever. Man you were busy, sort of reminds me of my first trip to MDE only I did not do so much. I did do many club hops then and remember meeting a really nice spinner in a club where I had to crawl past the back of the DJ to get to this tiny room. A pretty cool club which I suspect is Nueva which was not the name I remember. I've been doing mostly casas but your report makes me feel to revisit the clubs, and Mayorista which I have not been to in a decade.

Yeah def great read and reminds me of my first MDE trip as well. Mine was shorter in time and prob did half as much stuff as you did in terms of girls and tourist sights. But with each return trip I realized what I liked and made the best use of my time to develop contacts and connections. I'm not a casa type guy, but I like your style. I'm sure you're already planning the next trip. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2294170]Probably the best first time TR on Medellin ever. Man you were busy, sort of reminds me of my first trip to MDE only I did not do so much. I did do many club hops then and remember meeting a really nice spinner in a club where I had to crawl past the back of the DJ to get to this tiny room. A pretty cool club which I suspect is Nueva which was not the name I remember. I've been doing mostly casas but your report makes me feel to revisit the clubs, and Mayorista which I have not been to in a decade.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294142]She told me 250 when I was messaging her. Before I could even ask the price. She's pretty hardened and has been around the block. Usually I offer them 200 with taxi. Since coming to el poblado is a hike for most of these Bello girls.[/QUOTE]You do you but 80-90% of them will take 150. What / who gave you the impression that Poblado requires 200 from Bello? You're paying for their cab fare and I suspect some of the smarter ones will take a metro then a cab. Some might give you an excuse about Poblado traffic, but with some exceptions, FBs girls are seeing one client a day at most, so they have time.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2293857]I posted her FB link last week. She is nice and yes she charges 250 for GFE. Like the guys said prob a lot of wear and tear. She is friendly and looks cute in person.[/QUOTE]Had a good time with her but she does not look like the pics on FB anymore. A lot of wear and tear for sure. Sweet girl who will chill with you but past her prime.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2293006]Wll last night I was robbed. [/QUOTE]No, you were not robbed. You were a victim of petty theft. Robbed involves the threat of force against you.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2294224]You do you but 80-90% of them will take 150. What / who gave you the impression that Poblado requires 200 from Bello? You're paying for their cab fare and I suspect some of the smarter ones will take a metro then a cab. Some might give you an excuse about Poblado traffic, but with some exceptions, FBs girls are seeing one client a day at most, so they have time.[/QUOTE]Absolutely correct. Once you start communicating with a FB chica. I always try to switch it to WhatsApp.

If she ain't ready to do that, odds are there is some kind of issue there and best to move on.

Once you get to the business end discussion. Don't ask them what they charge. Tell them that you want X or why and.

Are prepared to pay 150 mil. They will agrree. Some might later try to get you for taxi or something extra like that but they will probably do that anyway. 150 mil is a lot of money for them and they want that quite badly. I can count on one hand those that declined on account of the offer.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2294267]No, you were not robbed. You were a victim of petty theft. Robbed involves the threat of force against you.[/QUOTE]Thanks Barney (Fife), LOL. 🤪

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2294308]Absolutely correct. Once you start communicating with a FB chica. I always try to switch it to WhatsApp.

If she ain't ready to do that, odds are there is some kind of issue there and best to move on.

Once you get to the business end discussion. Don't ask them what they charge. Tell them that you want X or why and.

Are prepared to pay 150 mil. They will agrree. Some might later try to get you for taxi or something extra like that but they will probably do that anyway. 150 mil is a lot of money for them and they want that quite badly. I can count on one hand those that declined on account of the offer.[/QUOTE]For some of them 150 mil is a lot of $$.

Just like any culture the hot girls know they are hot and have higher demands.

Girls like Aleja Giraldo who imo is a 7 charges 250 k and she won't take less.

A girl like Marcela Morales is not taking 150 k.

It's like anything you get what you pay for.

While I agree 150 k is doable with many girls I'm just trying to keep the expectations real among people who are not veterans of the mde scene.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294369]For some of them 150 mil is a lot of $$.

Just like any culture the hot girls know they are hot and have higher demands.

Girls like Aleja Giraldo who imo is a 7 charges 250 k and she won't take less.

A girl like Marcela Morales is not taking 150 k.

It's like anything you get what you pay for.

While I agree 150 k is doable with many girls I'm just trying to keep the expectations real among people who are not veterans of the mde scene.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I have a buddy who wants to go to Bogota because he read on the forum that stunners are easy available at only 150 k. I told him the same as what you posted here. If you want a stunner who is in high demand, you are most likely going to be shelling out more than 150 k. I only visited Medellin once, and I gave some girls 150k, but there were others I gave 200 or even 250k. The 250k girls I was with were definitely a couple of notches above the 150k girls.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294369]For some of them 150 mil is a lot of $$.

Just like any culture the hot girls know they are hot and have higher demands.

It's like anything you get what you pay for.
[/QUOTE]Don't know the last time you have been to the Bogota thread, but a couple of days ago a guy posted seeing AND TALKING TO chicks at the 250K spot that he knew from the 60K spot.

Once again it is called price discrimination: selling the same product at different prices to different buyers, in order to maximize sales and profits.

So you don't always get what you pay for. A lot of times it depends on when and where you are paying for it. For instance my city has those toll lanes on the expressway. One minute you can be paying $3 and the next minute you can be paying 50 cents. The lanes do not change, but the when changed. In the other example above, the girls did not change, only the where changed.

[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2291628]Earlier, guys were arguing about girls in Santa Fe and in Northern club like Lido, well, this is what happened to me, while in Lido, I ran into 2 girls that I met and chatted with the night before at Troya in Santa Fe. They were a little surprised seeing me in Lido, same was I. I talked to them again, and of course the question came up why. They told me for the higher price they can get in Lido. I didn't see them got picked that night when I left close to 3 AM, but there are definitely girls work at both places and charge very differently. As I said before, there are more high end girls in Lido, but it's not difficult to find girls of same physical quality in SF and pay a lot less if you don't mind the area.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2294416]Don't know the last time you have been to the Bogota thread, but a couple of days ago a guy posted seeing AND TALKING TO chicks at the 250K spot that he knew from the 60K spot.

Once again it is called price discrimination: selling the same product at different prices to different buyers, in order to maximize sales and profits.

So you don't always get what you pay for. A lot of times it depends on when and where you are paying for it. For instance my city has those toll lanes on the expressway. One minute you can be paying $3 and the next minute you can be paying 50 cents. The lanes do not change, but the when changed. In the other example above, the girls did not change, only the where changed.[/QUOTE]So because of a few girls that work in the north also work sante fe means ALL the high end girls work in Sante Fe??

Highly doubt it. My point is certain girls will not settle for less. They know they are worth more and unless you happen to catch them at the perfect time when they are extremely desperate they're going to get their price.

So many of these girls are getting sponsored by idiots sending them $$ every month. For them it's just a numbers game.

Even girls who I wouldn't consider a 5 are staying firm at 200 and up it's laughable.

My only point was 150 k is not the norm for a hot girl I would consider a 7 and up.

I see a lot of these girls on their WhatsApp stories in diff countries at high end hotels going shopping at high end places. And some of these girls are wack. LOL. But she ain't going to be charging 150 k for her pussy anytime soon.

But if you're a hot girl she knows she's hot cause it'll take you a month to book a date with her. And she's not going to take 150 k for BBBJ facials and a good ass fucking. Ain't happening.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]So because of a few girls that work in the north also work sante fe means ALL the high end girls work in Sante Fe??
.[/QUOTE]Well you're right, of course not.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]
So many of these girls are getting sponsored by idiots sending them $$ every month. For them it's just a numbers game ...

I see a lot of these girls on their WhatsApp stories in diff countries at high end hotels going shopping at high end places. And some of these girls are wack. LOL. But she ain't going to be charging 150 k for her pussy anytime soon.

[/QUOTE]This type I avoid. Once spoiled like this, they're usually a pain and the experience is not what I'm looking for anyway.

I'd rather hunt for the unspoiled beauty.

Thanks Turgid and Ricerocket, nice to know someone read and showed some appreciation for my report.

Some additional information I'd like to add during my trip that may help others have a great time.

-Do try out the free day trips, those are well worth it when you are "recharging" your batteries so to speak. A lot of tours are free if you simply look, and the tip is expected at the end.

-Don't have any expectations going into MDE and you should have a super time. I thought I would be a casa guy, I thought I would spend more time in the clubs (Isla / San Diego / Fase / Conejitas etc) but that wasn't the case obviously. I had a super time because I was open to the experience and ready to accept whatever happened during my visits to each place for sexo fun!

-Do try each place more than once, for example if you go to a casa one day and have a mediocre experience or bad lineup, do try a different time of the day and or come back later. Don't let the first experience make up your mind for good, unless she was a superstar negro besos / BBBJ / BBFS creampie all that just kidding.

-Don't follow the hype, trust your instincts. For example, I was told by many that the food sucks in MDE. Yeah it may lack in variety, but I ate like a king. Forget what you heard. Try it for yourself. Also everybody has their opinions on what clubs and casas to visit, try everything if you can.

-Do try to smile more often, you'd be surprised how many smiles you'll get back or even numbers from the local paisa's or Venezuelan women!

-Pay it forward if you can, always help out another fellow amigo looking for some help. Don't be one of those guys who are "seasoned" or "veterans" and will only lend a hand to help out select few or reply to specific people, lady luck will reward you I promise!

-Do ask questions, its encouraged. I'm far from knowing it all and I'm sure I can learn a lot more and have an even better time if I met the right people or got good information from the boards.

-Keep it fun! Don't stress the small stuff, go out and make it a super day in MDE!

The AirBnb and the tours are expensive by Colombia income standard. Why no one is complaining about that?

Will you agree with the prices if the roles are reversed?

If different hotels can charge different prices, why can't the girls?

I was in MDE for 10 days starting Feb 15th and had reservations for Hotel Normandia but immediately checked back out because of bad vibes. I hiked over to Hotel Botero and negotiated 75.000 per night. It was a good stay and I liked that the checked out the girls I brought up no fee. I got some good info from Wolf662 and of course World Traveler 69's map. There were 15 of 20 casas and / or clubs with a 25 minute walk and I visited all of them and used their services. Clubs were 75.00 / half hour and the casas were from 45.000 to 75.000. There is even a casa across the street from the hotel (Yakuza) and I went there 5 times over the 10 days. I had no bad experiences at any of them but as I can only pop once or twice / day I usually just get a full body massage with a happy ending if possible. I met a Venezolana at the Conito's Bar and had her over to the Hotel 4 or 5 mornings. We watched the big drama regarding Maduro and the border. I believe that Medellin can rival Cali for service and price and quality but it beats Cali in that now and again you actually see fellow Gringos who all seem to be in the hobby in Medellin.

I am returning to MDE in May for two weeks and have a question for you. Where do the Gringo congregate in the morning or afternoon? I would really like to swap stories and get info. There's an outside chance I will be moving to either Cali of Medellin in a year or two.

Oh yeah. I love the president of Venezuela for sending all those beautiful women to Colombia. Long live the revolution!

The reason you are paying 200 k for girls that fuck for 80 k is not because she is worth it the same girl when she entered game was charging that under 80 k till some gringos overpaid her and she learned that gringos got money, believe me that Giraldo chick charges for less then 100 k when it is slow, maybe not now because she has a big customers base that are gringos with $$$ now. You guys need real Colombians friends to tell you guys the truth Those high-end girls in Poblado were all cheap prepagos once and are still when it is slow gringo season like in places with a lot of Venezuelans like Cucuta.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]So because of a few girls that work in the north also work sante fe means ALL the high end girls work in Sante Fe??[/QUOTE]Who ever said ALL? You said you get what you pay for. I was just saying that is not true. Sometimes you get more than what you paid for. Sometimes you get less than what you paid for. Sometimes you get exactly what you paid for. A lot of times you do not know what you got until AFTER you have paid for it.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]My point is certain girls will not settle for less. They know they are worth more and unless you happen to catch them at the perfect time when they are extremely desperate they're going to get their price. For them it's just a numbers game.[/QUOTE]It is a numbers game for us too and always has been all of our lives. You talk to 10 chicks and you get the phone number of 4. You go out with 2 of those and end up fucking 1.

I live in Thailand. Last night me and a buddy were on a street called Soi 6 that is nothing but brothel bars. General price is $11 for the room and $31 for the girl. So a total of $42 for 1 hour. I went around talking to chicks and getting their info and telling them to come see me after work. Not ALL would agree to it, saying to get services there. But most did give me their info. The street shuts down at 1 am. Before I could drop my wingman to his place and get back to my place, one of the chicks was already at my place waiting for me. Now it is 11:45 am and she just left at 11 because she has to work at 1 pm. I gave her $37 for 10 hours.

As I said, ALL would not do it, but enough would that I was satisfied. You never know if you do not ask. And I have never been a guy that just had to have a certain chick. If my shit don't work on one, then I have no problem moving to the next in this numbers game.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]But if you're a hot girl she knows she's hot cause it'll take you a month to book a date with her. And she's not going to take 150 k for BBBJ facials and a good ass fucking. Ain't happening.[/QUOTE]You never know. Women are very insecure. They will only think they are hot because of the amount of guys groveling. Why do you think they wear all the makeup and get all the implants and shit? Because they did not think they were hot! Met a chick on WeChat the other day that had on tons of makeup in all of her pictures. I told her that I wanted to see her without the makeup. She sent me a picture. I said you look much better. I told her that she could come get this money, but she could not come with makeup on. She refused.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294431]So because of a few girls that work in the north also work sante fe means ALL the high end girls work in Sante Fe??

Highly doubt it. My point is certain girls will not settle for less. They know they are worth more and unless you happen to catch them at the perfect time when they are extremely desperate they're going to get their price. [/QUOTE]With very few exceptions, the girls, regardless of how much they are charging, or where they are working, come from the same neighborhoods. Most of them start the same ways, some work themselves up, most just go nowhere. The girls that won't take less than 200 k or 250 k, have worked for 100 k and less. Not many start high and stay there.

[QUOTE]So many of these girls are getting sponsored by idiots sending them $$ every month. For them it's just a numbers game.[/QUOTE]Personally, I think it's silly to spend the amount of money some guys spend on girls they aren't fucking, but it's their money. There are guys going into US strip clubs and dropping $10 k in a night, and if they're lucky they might get a BJ in the VIP. There's guys spending almost as much on a night partying in Medellin. It's what makes them happy, but it doesn't necessarily make them idiots.

[QUOTE]Even girls who I wouldn't consider a 5 are staying firm at 200 and up it's laughable.

My only point was 150 k is not the norm for a hot girl I would consider a 7 and up.

I see a lot of these girls on their WhatsApp stories in diff countries at high end hotels going shopping at high end places. And some of these girls are wack. LOL. But she ain't going to be charging 150 k for her pussy anytime soon.

But if you're a hot girl she knows she's hot cause it'll take you a month to book a date with her. And she's not going to take 150 k for BBBJ facials and a good ass fucking. Ain't happening.[/QUOTE]If a girl won't take what you're offering, move on to the next one. There's no shortage of girls in Medellin. If you have to have a certain girl, either accept her price or hone your negotiating skills.

It's always going to be a numbers game. For every girl wanting a high price, there are 10 just as hot taking a lot less. You just need to go and find them.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2294461]The AirBnb and the tours are expensive by Colombia income standard. Why no one is complaining about that?

Will you agree with the prices if the roles are reversed?

If different hotels can charge different prices, why can't the girls?[/QUOTE]That same thing today, why rent in Poblado or Laureles just to hike back to Centro? I will find a hotel in Centro and if I find a chic I want to wine & dine we will hit up Poblado for 2-3 days, but Poblado exclusively for my 3 week stay? Oooooh no, a week in the airbnb's is 2-3 weeks stay in a hotel in Centro. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;2294471]
Oh yeah. I love the president of Venezuela for sending all those beautiful women to Colombia. Long live the revolution![/QUOTE]I would like to know where one finds or is likely to find Venezuelen girls in MDE. More likely in casas or certain clubs?

[QUOTE=LikeItTight;2293776]Wow where do I start.

This is going to be my first TR on this board and first trip to Medellin, here we go!

Wifi at my apartment was hit and miss. Night's in Medellin could be boring as everything closes early including restaurants. I downloaded the Rappi app for food but never used it. Temperature almost everyday was around 70 to 80, a bit warm, soaking wet back, needing to change shirts often. People are super friendly and humble, I will be back.[/QUOTE]Seriously this is one of the best first timer newbie trip reports that I have read in years, great job giving back to the board.

We share the same likes in our mongering style, I too enjoy hanging out and trolling in the "Vera" as the locals call it here and also sit for drinks on the bar tables on the sidewalk in mayorista and make a selection. My Colombian buddy has found some fun here as he frequents this place often.

And so true the coffee tour, it's just damn coffee, jajajaja a plant that grows the beans, you pick it, let it dry, roast it and drink it, tour done now enjoy your cup of coffee.

Yes San Diego club, the one you mention that is under the elevated concrete ramps is also hit and miss, I have been maybe 4 or 5 times over the course of the past 3 years and never pulled any girls from there, have not been inside in the past year but the hot dog stand right outside the club has killer hot dogs and they are open very late in the wee hours of the morning.

Both Bar Executiva and next door Maricaibo bar have the best selection starting about 9 or 10 PM, you got there too early, I have pulled some girls from both places more times than I can count.

We share the same opinion about the mid to high end clubs (ie Fase dos, Lutron, La Isla, etc) just too much phony silicone and make up for me as I adore the girl next door cutie like the paisa cuties I had over last night, off the charts yet simple typical paisa face, looks like a mune, a doll in her face, simply incredible facial features and she sucks and worships my cock like she has a reason, jejejeje.

And COPA is my airline, I always fly copa, maybe 40 or 50 trips in the past 7 or 8 years, I regularly get upgraded to business class, be sure you sign up for their frequent flyer / connect miles program.

My uber driver that I met 2 years ago is now my best friend here in Medellin, we monger together, share girls, do 3 and 4 some's together, he finds me girls when I need to fulfill a desire, smoke and party together in fincas with chicas, etc and all because uber. I am a lucky man.

The Tall Man.

I have been coming to Medellin for many years now the last time being in late 2017 and this is the first time that I have met Venezuelan chicas here. Those that I have sessioned with are actually more to my taste than the average paisa. I find them slimmer, taller and better looking generally and the service of all that I have been with so far have been truly enjoyable. The strange thing is that every one I have asked how long they have been in Colombia have responded with three years. I highly doubt it and suspect that this is a standard response for some sort of immigration reason. If they are representative of Venezuelan providers I am seriously considering visiting Venezuela in spite of the problems there. I recall that in my first visit to Caracas in 1975 I was seriously impressed with the talent there. I visited on a couple other occasions for work but never sessioned there. That may have to change.

I never tried that strategy. Love it. Was the nurses name Gaby? I think its pronounced Gaby. Light skin. Nice body not petite.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2294120]

So, when the Madam asked which one I liked I told her that I wanted one that would let me do DATY and BBBJ. \.

All six agreed to what I wanted.

She bought all of them back in. It was a tough choice, but I took the chica dressed up as a nurse.

Carrera 43 # 55-49.6-8 Girls. Prices: 45 k 30 min. , 45 min. , 60 k, 1 hour 80 k. 10 visit card gets you 30 min free time. Tel: 579 8615, Cell: 322 810 6277. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 7 pm, Sundays and holidays 10:30 am to 4 pm.[/QUOTE]

Depends how and where you meet them.
Most guys cant get past the front lines of the welcome wagon train where they are used to tourists.
You gotta spend a little in some unconventional ways to get away from that.
Everything is online now. Meet people face to face. Friends of friends are a completely different ballgame!

Any monger who says he likes flacas, this girl in the pic is a perfect 10! She is stunning I promise!

So she says she wants to introduce me to a friend. How much are you going to give us? I say 80. (cop).

She says that's too little. We don't go out a lot and we are not just with any guys. Give us 55 each. I said good, no problem. When can you come over? LOL.

So who wants to meet my friends?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294369]For some of them 150 mil is a lot of $$.

Just like any culture the hot girls know they are hot and have higher demands.

Girls like Aleja Giraldo who imo is a 7 charges 250 k and she won't take less.

A girl like Marcela Morales is not taking 150 k.

It's like anything you get what you pay for.

While I agree 150 k is doable with many girls I'm just trying to keep the expectations real among people who are not veterans of the mde scene.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2294767]So who wants to meet my friends?[/QUOTE]As long as they speak English, I am in.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2294767]So who wants to meet my friends?[/QUOTE]Me, me, me!

Of course. They are very smart girls. :D

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2294782]As long as they speak English, I am in.[/QUOTE]

After researching and reading blogs about Medellin. I think, I am going to take a plunge and test drive. Planning to visit Medellin in Early May for one week and I live in New Jersey, USA. I would really like the company of some fellow gringos. Please let me know if anyone can plan along with me. I am flexible with my dates two weeks ahead or back.

I'll be there then and will grab a beer or show you a casa or something.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2294827]After researching and reading blogs about Medellin. I think, I am going to take a plunge and test drive. Planning to visit Medellin in Early May for one week and I live in New Jersey, USA. I would really like the company of some fellow gringos. Please let me know if anyone can plan along with me. I am flexible with my dates two weeks ahead or back.[/QUOTE].

The things I report on this board is more for the guys who are not too experienced in Medellin.

If you're a vet or have been living there you go through a lot of different experiences.

I have spent 60 days in Medellin in less than a year on 5 diff trips.

Fucked many different broads from all different price ranges.

Now personally I haven't seen one girl that any member has posted that's a drop dead stunner. For me anyways.

I personally have only fucked 2 girls I would consider a 9 or 10. Those girls cost me $200 and $300 usd for an all nighter. I consider it money well spent considering all the things I wanted to do in the bedroom.

So all you vets can say whatever but to each their own.

Yes I agree 150 k or even 100 k is possible to get some pussy.

But in general, you will get what you pay for!!

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2294827]After researching and reading blogs about Medellin. I think, I am going to take a plunge and test drive. Planning to visit Medellin in Early May for one week and I live in New Jersey, USA. I would really like the company of some fellow gringos. Please let me know if anyone can plan along with me. I am flexible with my dates two weeks ahead or back.[/QUOTE]Not sure how flexible you are but I am headed down the week of March 25th for 5 days. If not happy mongering!

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2294815]Of course. They are very smart girls. :D[/QUOTE]Excellent, because it's quite important to me that the girls at least have one PHD.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2294767]Depends how and where you meet them.
Most guys cant get past the front lines of the welcome wagon train where they are used to tourists.
You gotta spend a little in some unconventional ways to get away from that.
Everything is online now. Meet people face to face. Friends of friends are a completely different ballgame!

Any monger who says he likes flacas, this girl in the pic is a perfect 10! She is stunning I promise!

So she says she wants to introduce me to a friend. How much are you going to give us? I say 80. (cop).

She says that's too little. We don't go out a lot and we are not just with any guys. Give us 55 each. I said good, no problem. When can you come over? LOL.

So who wants to meet my friends?[/QUOTE]Hasideas Tao I will send you a PM. Yes I will drop my name into the hat for these cuties.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2294849]The things I report on this board is more for the guys who are not too experienced in Medellin.

If you're a vet or have been living there you go through a lot of different experiences.

I have spent 60 days in Medellin in less than a year on 5 diff trips.

Fucked many different broads from all different price ranges.

Now personally I haven't seen one girl that any member has posted that's a drop dead stunner. For me anyways.

I personally have only fucked 2 girls I would consider a 9 or 10. Those girls cost me $200 and $300 usd for an all nighter. I consider it money well spent considering all the things I wanted to do in the bedroom.

So all you vets can say whatever but to each their own.

Yes I agree 150 k or even 100 k is possible to get some pussy.

But in general, you will get what you pay for!![/QUOTE]I just want to point out that you haven't posted prepago profiles of what you consider stunners either. Chances are that if she's prepago, someone on this board has seen her and can verify those numbers you gave out. I'm genuinely curious because as a relative newcomer to Medellin it would help to know what the actual rate of those girls are. I always try to give people the benefit of the doubt. But I also know that you let girls give you an offer first, which is a gateway to let the girls get the better of you. You also don't like to spend much effort in negotiating as far as I can tell. So someone who's reading your reports will always have this question in the back of their mind whether the numbers you're paying are really what should be paid. You may honestly believe you're right, and that's fine. But help us make our own decision with profile links / names / pics.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2295085]Hasideas Tao I will send you a PM. Yes I will drop my name into the hat for these cuties.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I can try my luck too.

I can't remember her name, but it was not Gaby.

All the chicas were in great shape, except one was a little heavier.

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2294731]I never tried that strategy. Love it. Was the nurses name Gaby? I think its pronounced Gaby. Light skin. Nice body not petite.[/QUOTE]

Hey amigos, I'm coming next week for the primary purpose of securing a temporary apartment for May. I will be retiring in Medellin at that time.

If anyone wants to meet up, just holler.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2294551]I would like to know where one finds or is likely to find Venezuelen girls in MDE. More likely in casas or certain clubs?[/QUOTE]Don't hold me to this, since things change and casas are always hit or miss, but I noticed a fair amount of Venecas at Pamela's in the past, most recently a few weeks ago. Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-71, piso 2, in front of the Parqueadero. Let me know if you hit it up.

[QUOTE=LikeItTight;2294455] Do try each place more than once, for example if you go to a casa one day and have a mediocre experience or bad lineup, do try a different time of the day and or come back later..[/QUOTE]Completely agreed. I live here and the casas are always hit or miss, regardless of whether they're high end or low end. Most clubs you can know almost exactly what to expect at any given hour of any given day. Not so with the casas.

Laureles is at least within easy striking distance and quick / cheap taxi or uber to Centro. I don't understand the Poblado lodging thing at all.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2294547]That same thing today, why rent in Poblado or Laureles just to hike back to Centro? I will find a hotel in Centro and if I find a chic I want to wine & dine we will hit up Poblado for 2-3 days, but Poblado exclusively for my 3 week stay? Oooooh no, a week in the airbnb's is 2-3 weeks stay in a hotel in Centro. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]

It seems like the nighttime noise and all day heavy car traffic on Maracaibo would make the Normandia intolerable. It's not even set back from the street. I guess the advantage is it is the very closest hotel to the Barra Ejecutiva / Club Maracaibo circuit but I don't see it being so great for sleeping or relaxing.

[QUOTE=BottomFeeder;2294471]I was in MDE for 10 days starting Feb 15th and had reservations for Hotel Normandia but immediately checked back out because of bad vibes. I hiked over to Hotel Botero and negotiated 75.000 per night. It was a good stay and I liked that the checked out the girls I brought up no fee. I got some good info from Wolf662 and of course World Traveler 69's map. There were 15 of 20 casas and / or clubs with a 25 minute walk and I visited all of them and used their services. Clubs were 75.00 / half hour and the casas were from 45.000 to 75.000. There is even a casa across the street from the hotel (Yakuza) and I went there 5 times over the 10 days. I had no bad experiences at any of them but as I can only pop once or twice / day I usually just get a full body massage with a happy ending if possible. I met a Venezolana at the Conito's Bar and had her over to the Hotel 4 or 5 mornings. We watched the big drama regarding Maduro and the border. I believe that Medellin can rival Cali for service and price and quality but it beats Cali in that now and again you actually see fellow Gringos who all seem to be in the hobby in Medellin.

I am returning to MDE in May for two weeks and have a question for you. Where do the Gringo congregate in the morning or afternoon? I would really like to swap stories and get info. There's an outside chance I will be moving to either Cali of Medellin in a year or two.

Oh yeah. I love the president of Venezuela for sending all those beautiful women to Colombia. Long live the revolution![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2295313]It seems like the nighttime noise and all day heavy car traffic on Maracaibo would make the Normandia intolerable. It's not even set back from the street. I guess the advantage is it is the very closest hotel to the Barra Ejecutiva / Club Maracaibo circuit but I don't see it being so great for sleeping or relaxing.[/QUOTE]If you get a room that's on the street it will be louder, but If you get a room off the street its not so bad. I just came from there and asked for a quiet room and they put me on the third floor. The noise was not so bad in the room I was in, however for one day or two, the floor smelled like fresh paint. I think they are done painting by now, on that floor.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2295313]It seems like the nighttime noise and all day heavy car traffic on Maracaibo would make the Normandia intolerable. [/QUOTE]The clubs close at 1 or 2 so there is no noise after that. Also you can really only hear the noise with the balcony door open. So I close the door before going to sleep so the noise will not wake me in the morning. Then when I wake up I open the door to let in fresh air. You don't really hear the vehilcles as much as you hear the people.

Argentina's fell 75% 2002 and wal held down to 66% until 2005, then she inflation-skyrocketed. Treasury minister hold the inflation at bay for 3 years, at modest rats like 7%.

Then Kirscher & wife took over and inflation, default the normal situation in Argentina.

Colombia has exchange rate towards the EURO and USD at 1700 cop / USD, but even now which exchange at 3000 for both USD / EURO, prices has not risen much. They have actually fallen due to the inflation of 500.000 Venezuelans, where prices in the future will be low, since it will take a decade to clean up all the mess.

Interesting is that Colombian prices has not changes during decade. There there a period 2014 when the COP becaame really strong wanting to change destination. 2009 Energy charges 90 k / hs, 2013 140.

As a did a server among there the internet quality of girls / price, the prince has fallen to 100.150 k, while a at 2014 they where going over 200 and some superstars demanded 200+ the Bello-taxi trik.

Prices today have bounces back to 100-200, at a medium at 150 k for real hotties.

I estimate that price are 33-44% lower in 2014 thanks to 500.000 venezolanas, currency changes (a result of sharply oil prices, since VNZ depends of 90% of it'the exporting comes, Colombia actually lies at +50%.

Paradise lost- rediscovered.

This was my 5th trip to MDE and I always stay in an Airbnb in the estadio / laureles / floresta area. About my style, I don't drink, don't like loud music and am in my 50's. I like daytime fun more than night time unless I find a chica and then we stay at my apt and eat dinner or just stay in the bedroom. This trip I decided to use only Tinder and Colombian cupid, last times have paid the $90 for a month of SA. I was worried seeing the posts of Tinder chicas scoplamining guys. I don't do Parque lleras or Gustos. I had 3 chicas (one I have know for a year from SA) give me BBFS to my surprise! 2 were from CC but sadly their profiles are no longer active, I think the chicas have to pay for CC unlike SA its free for the girls. My first girl from CC was total GFE, I started chatting about 3 weeks before my trip and tried to be subtle about what I wanted and we never discussed price. I told her I could help with her bills and I liked to use my tongue to please women. I usually bring some Pink or VS panties as gifts, 7 pairs for $28 on sale, good investment in my book. I gave her 2 pairs of thong lace panties and she tried them on and then quickly they were off of her. We played around for a few hours then she said she had to leave, I gave her $100 K. She said she would make me lunch the next day and asked what I wanted. We agreed on Chicharones and I love the small potatoes fried. So then next day I bought the chicharones and potatoes then she asked if I could buy some dish soap for her. We ate lunch at her place and then went to her bedroom and we played for an hour, she would do lots of kissing and BB everything. Then we walked back to my apt near the floresta station from her place, it was all downhill but took about 45-50 minutes. At my place we laid on the bed and kissed more. Later that afternoon she asked again if I wanted lunch with her I said yes. I said chicken with rice. I gave her 20 k for the food and she left. Then next day same thing went to her place had lunch and then to the bedroom. THEN she said she had to go visit her mom and help her. So she left the next day. In the end I gave her $100 k for each of the first 2 days and the final day $150 k. She never asked me for money so I got the feeling she was not a pro but you never know.

Then next BBFS was from anther girl from CC, named Elixa for Elizabeth. She first asked me for 400 k and I said that I was NOT in MDE and would not pay that much, 200 max. Then when I arrived in Mde I sent her a message saying I was in town. A few days later she asks if I want to see her for $200 k and I said sure. This girl has a great body and natural tits. There is a photo of her tit. She came over and would only allow one pop but it was all BB to my surprise. She told me 300 K for a second pop and I said sorry. Then when we were done she told me 250 k for allowing a second pop, I was not that motivated so said no thanks. She works during the days for a video chaturbate type site.

I also used Tinder for a few dates, I think I paid for premium tinder because from the USA I can set my location to Mde and match with chicas before I arrived. I matched with one on tinder and I offered to bring her panties and she showed me pics of ones she liked, they were not the thong lace so I was a little disappointed but still got them for her. She went by Maria on tinder and came up from Itagui and wanted $200 K. I said that was fine and wanted 2 hrs, she agreed she came over for close to 3 hrs and was very GFE with lots of kissing and BBBJ but CFS. I don't know what it was with her pussy but she got me to pop 3 times in under 3 hrs, a first in my life. After our date she said she had to go out of town for work so I did not get to see her for another date, I will on my next trip.

Another tinder chica named Valentina was a student and lived in Bello, she agreed to $150 +20 for taxi which from Bello might be about right. She was fun but nothing special everything was covered.

I also reconnected with my first chica I ever had in Mde who is a full time student, she was 20 when we first met and is very GFE with me, we had an argument last trip and I had not talked to her so was surprised when she messaged me. She always does everything BB and speaks good English, so it is easier to be with. She also likes to eat out and we always go for lunch or dinner when we get together.

I did go to one casa but it is not really my style, I like a GFE and casa girls are usually not like that so much. It was reasonable at 60 k and hour.

So on this trip I was pleasantly surprised with the BBFS, I do not expect it so when it happens a nice surprise. I do not finish inside the girls since I don't want anymore kids.

I never thought about rooms on the back side of the building. It makes sense they would be much quieter. Maracaibo is a crazy busy street.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2295568]The clubs close at 1 or 2 so there is no noise after that. Also you can really only hear the noise with the balcony door open. So I close the door before going to sleep so the noise will not wake me in the morning. Then when I wake up I open the door to let in fresh air. You don't really hear the vehilcles as much as you hear the people.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HornyGoats;2295230]Don't hold me to this, since things change and casas are always hit or miss, but I noticed a fair amount of Venecas at Pamela's in the past, most recently a few weeks ago. Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-71, piso 2, in front of the Parqueadero. Let me know if you hit it up.[/QUOTE]Thanks HG. I will.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2294492]
It is a numbers game for us too and always has been all of our lives. You talk to 10 chicks and you get the phone number of 4. You go out with 2 of those and end up fucking 1.
[/QUOTE]This works both ways.

It also depends on how you value your time. I guess one can spend a lot of time finding the optimal price when time is free. When time has a cost, then it becomes a balance between cost and price.

[QUOTE=PennyPincher;2260015]I was in Medellin last January. Went to New Life. It was different from all the other casas I've been to. There was a lot activity going on, they had many girls lined up single file, and they walked up one by one. They seemed I'll at ease, uncomfortable (except one who actually smiled and looked me in the eye. All the other ones gave a flimsy handshake, looking away.) It seemed like the line up would never end, so I told the guy in charge to stop the line up, and give me the cheerful one. Her attitude was good and we had fun. Unlike the other casas, payment was make after the session, with a paper filled out showing the time, which we took to a register window. It was a tad more expensive than the other casas, but not too much.[/QUOTE]I returned to New Life some weeks ago. This time it was different, I was put in a booth and the girls entered into the booth one by one and introduced themselves. There was no visible line. It was much more laid back and relaxed. This new way works much better, more discrete. Way to go.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2295309]Laureles is at least within easy striking distance and quick / cheap taxi or uber to Centro. I don't understand the Poblado lodging thing at all.[/QUOTE]I have stayed in Centro, Laureles and Poblado and much prefer Poblado. My stays in Centro and Laureles were for short trips. My trips to Medellin now are long ones of a month or more and I prefer the ambiance of Poblado for long trips and will even stay here for short trips if I ever decide to do that again. Centro is too noisy and frenetic for me and I have no problem taking a taxi to and from Poblado.

That is a fair point. Centro is absolutely an urban environment. The metro is faster / cheaper to get to Centro from Poblado. I notice girls arrive more punctually to Centro but as you pointed out if you are on a long term visit the waiting time isn't going to matter.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2295860]I have stayed in Centro, Laureles and Poblado and much prefer Poblado. My stays in Centro and Laureles were for short trips. My trips to Medellin now are long ones of a month or more and I prefer the ambiance of Poblado for long trips and will even stay here for short trips if I ever decide to do that again. Centro is too noisy and frenetic for me and I have no problem taking a taxi to and from Poblado.[/QUOTE]

Decided to give Medellin another try. I'm taking a couple a friend with me first time Medellin however DR regulars. My Spanish is So so. Will any of you Medellin vets (besides Mr E) be in the area during this time. My number of reports speak for itself.

Has anyone got a massage at OM spa for men at Centro commercial rio sur, Carrera 43 A#6 Sur26.

Just got a massage there from Viena? Which was pretty good. Has anyone received a happy ending there?

Looking for advice for lowest fees on obtaining COP. I am from the USA and have the option of getting it from my local bank. Just for reference, getting 2 million Pesos will impose a fee of about $40-$50 dollars. I have read you can get COP from the Airport ATM but limited to about 600,000 and the fee is $2-$3? Is this true? I know one can likely make multiple transactions and end up with 2 million for around $8-$12. I did something similar in DR but found that some of the ATMs ran out of money frequently.

Would you recommend I get it ahead of time and take a hit on the fee or wait and chance it for lower fees?

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2296224]Decided to give Medellin another try. I'm taking a couple a friend with me first time Medellin however DR regulars. My Spanish is So so. Will any of you Medellin vets (besides Mr E) be in the area during this time. My number of reports speak for itself.[/QUOTE]During which time? I'm sure someone will be around.

That place gets reviewed here pretty regularly. Everything I've read indicates the cost is high and the service and appearance of the staff is not good. I guess the attraction is it's gringo friendly location. Let us know how you make out.

[QUOTE=Sho423;2296270]Has anyone got a massage at OM spa for men at Centro commercial rio sur, Carrera 43 A#6 Sur26.

Just got a massage there from Viena? Which was pretty good. Has anyone received a happy ending there?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2296309]During which time? I'm sure someone will be around.[/QUOTE]Damn I'm sorry. I will be there the 15th through the 18th of this month.

Use the ATMs, it's the best combination of exchange rate and convenience. If you decide to exchange cash you will have to present a passport.

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2296292]Looking for advice for lowest fees on obtaining COP. I am from the USA and have the option of getting it from my local bank. Just for reference, getting 2 million Pesos will impose a fee of about $40-$50 dollars. I have read you can get COP from the Airport ATM but limited to about 600,000 and the fee is $2-$3? Is this true? I know one can likely make multiple transactions and end up with 2 million for around $8-$12. I did something similar in DR but found that some of the ATMs ran out of money frequently.

Would you recommend I get it ahead of time and take a hit on the fee or wait and chance it for lower fees?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2296292]Looking for advice for lowest fees on obtaining COP. I am from the USA and have the option of getting it from my local bank. Just for reference, getting 2 million Pesos will impose a fee of about $40-$50 dollars. I have read you can get COP from the Airport ATM but limited to about 600,000 and the fee is $2-$3? Is this true? I know one can likely make multiple transactions and end up with 2 million for around $8-$12. I did something similar in DR but found that some of the ATMs ran out of money frequently.

Would you recommend I get it ahead of time and take a hit on the fee or wait and chance it for lower fees?[/QUOTE]If you're not dropping more than $2000 usd in a week's time, wait until you arrive. $600,000 pesos at a time is more than enough currency to bang any chic in the perimeter unless you find some super duper high class rip a gringo off with the story: I am a girlfriend of a cartel member, LOL. $600,000 pesos in the right place will get you 6 chics for an hour a piece. So no need in carry currency you don't need, $200 usd at any bancolombia ATM spits out $600,000 pesos. That's what I've used while in Medellin. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Sho423;2296270]Has anyone got a massage at OM spa for men at Centro commercial rio sur, Carrera 43 A#6 Sur26.

Just got a massage there from Viena? Which was pretty good. Has anyone received a happy ending there?[/QUOTE]I have been there a couple of times and always had great massages. If you want more you should be upfront about it. I pretended to be green and asked "so how does this work?" - and the girl will tell you the different prices. All options are available (hand, mouth, sex with the first two that can be had with her naked and you touching or nothing) and she asks that you leave her the money on the table before you leave. Service is good but keep in mind two things:

1. Anything you decide to do gets taken out of your 60 minute slot as they have bookings before and after yours (and I guess they need to keep up appearances) so your massage will be shorter.

2. If you ever decide to go for full service, this will make your visit there pretty punchy. If I remember correctly I was quoted 150 k /200 k for the sex alone.

To recap, it's an enjoyable way to spend an hour in a very touristy and wealthy part of the city so keep in mind that if you go. I usually just get a nice relaxing massage with lots of stroking and flirting and a pleasant hand finish seen how I wouldn't last too long anyway!

I believe there is also another SPA for gentlemen in the same shopping mall but on a different floor. Can't recall what it's called though.

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2296292]Looking for advice for lowest fees on obtaining COP. I am from the USA and have the option of getting it from my local bank. Just for reference, getting 2 million Pesos will impose a fee of about $40-$50 dollars. I have read you can get COP from the Airport ATM but limited to about 600,000 and the fee is $2-$3? Is this true? I know one can likely make multiple transactions and end up with 2 million for around $8-$12. I did something similar in DR but found that some of the ATMs ran out of money frequently.

Would you recommend I get it ahead of time and take a hit on the fee or wait and chance it for lower fees?[/QUOTE]Unless you have a low limit on your card (s) I would definitely wait. You can also change cash at a Cambio at I assume a better rate and no lower fee in Medellin. Avoid the Cambios at the airport, they have no fees but their poor rates more than make up for that. Remember a fee is only one part of the cost, a poor rate can cost you more than any fees. ATMs may charge up to three fees a local ATM fee, your bank ATM fee and finally a transaction fee (usually 1% to 3%). Your existing bank can advise you on what those banks charge in fees. Local banks in Medellin will charge fees (if I remember correctly) of $3 to $5 per transaction on foreign transactions. ATM exchange rate are based off the existing international bank exchange rate.

Schwab and Fidelity offer ATM cards that charge nothing for international ATM withdraws and even refund any local ATM fees. The Fidelity fees hits in a day or two. Schwab bundles them and give you one rebate with all fees at months end. I don't know how often you travel internationally, but I'm out of the country over 6 month a year. I have both these cards and they save me hundreds of dollars year in ATM fees. I think on both cards you can set the daily withdrawal limit and can take multiple withdrawals until you hit that limit. Amazingly Schwab has no minimum balance requirement. I'm not sure about Fidelity. At one point Capital One had an ATM card with a similar benefit but I'm not familiar with it. Plenty of ATMs in Medellin and the only time they may run out of money is on the weekend, especially Sunday. The airport has several ATMs and one always seems to have enough money to get me into town.

While I rarely need the withdrawal power of two cards, its nice to know if one is lost or stolen (I've had both happen internationally) I have a backup. My ATM card was stolen in Medellin and I lost on in the Atacama desert in Chile.

More of a concern in Medellin will be security. I tend to take money out of ATMs deep inside malls or the supermarket and never at night in an on the street ATM.

It's good to have a backup card, that is great advice. Using ATMs in secure locations is also excellent advice. I didn't mention it because it's been covered so many times here, but so has everything else about ATMs so that was my bad.

As far as card fees, unless you are going to be making withdrawals several times a day for weeks on end, I don't see how the fees can amount to enough to to change your plans or even think about. Lots of credit unions and banks, and the ISG brokerage favorites on here offer no fee ATM cards. Shop around and find the deal that works best for you. That concludes this week's personal finance content. Anybody else notice the trend of nicer Veracruz girls who show up around the front of the museum about 9 am Until early afternoon? Some of them are kind of nice.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2296572]Unless you have a low limit on your card (s) I would definitely wait. You can also change cash at a Cambio at I assume a better rate and no lower fee in Medellin. Avoid the Cambios at the airport, they have no fees but their poor rates more than make up for that. Remember a fee is only one part of the cost, a poor rate can cost you more than any fees. ATMs may charge up to three fees a local ATM fee, your bank ATM fee and finally a transaction fee (usually 1% to 3%). Your existing bank can advise you on what those banks charge in fees. Local banks in Medellin will charge fees (if I remember correctly) of $3 to $5 per transaction on foreign transactions. ATM exchange rate are based off the existing international bank exchange rate.

Schwab and Fidelity offer ATM cards that charge nothing for international ATM withdraws and even refund any local ATM fees..[/QUOTE]

Can I get a straight answer? Tmobile told me I have to dial 011 57 then the local one digit code, then the persons seven digit number.

The girls are giving me 10 digit numbers beginning with 300 or 301 followed by 7 more digits. WTH? LOL.

Is it best to use Whatsapp?

Thanks in advance!

[QUOTE=Bill;2296729]
Is it best to use Whatsapp?

[/QUOTE]Are you from another country? Everyone here does use WhatsApp.

I have a USA Tmobile plan and have my USA phone with their Tmobile chip. Do you know the procedure to text a girl that gave me a local 10 digit number and I use Whatsapp on a Wifi connection?

[QUOTE=Bill;2296733]I have a USA Tmobile plan and have my USA phone with their Tmobile chip. Do you know the procedure to text a girl that gave me a local 10 digit number and I use Whatsapp on a Wifi connection?[/QUOTE]To text in a foreign country you have to use the + symbol in front of the country code before entering the ten digit number. It's the same as a call. +57-xxx-xxx-xxxx.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296733]I have a USA Tmobile plan and have my USA phone with their Tmobile chip. Do you know the procedure to text a girl that gave me a local 10 digit number and I use Whatsapp on a Wifi connection?[/QUOTE]You need to type in the country code.

+57 xxx xxxxxxx.

To return to you they need to type +1 xxx xxxxxxx.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296729]Tmobile told me I have to dial 011 57 then the local one digit code, then the persons seven digit number.[/QUOTE]LOL. Damn I am feeling old now. I remember the one digit thing you used to have to do for a landline. I have not dialed one of those in years (because like Orgasmico said everyone has used whatsapp in recent history). The cell phones always had the 3 digits starting with a 3 at the beginning. 300, 316, 312, etc.

Get the T-mobile One Plus plan and you will not have to worry about wifi. You can use your internet overseas for free. I even have free calls to and from Mexico and Canada and my bill is only $70.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296729]Can I get a straight answer? Tmobile told me I have to dial 011 57 then the local one digit code, then the persons seven digit number.

The girls are giving me 10 digit numbers beginning with 300 or 301 followed by 7 more digits. WTH? LOL.[/QUOTE]I am fairly sure the one digit code is for landlines, sorta like area codes in the US. The ladies are giving you their cell phone numbers. No one digit code required.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2296742]You need to type in the country code.

+57 xxx xxxxxxx.

To return to you they need to type +1 xxx xxxxxxx.[/QUOTE]Probably I don't understand how to use whatsapp. Utube videos and google aren't helping. I added them to my phone's contacts but they don't show up on my whatsapp contacts. So maybe they don't have the app. This fshit is frustrating maybe I will have to text them on my home plan and see if they respond.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296759]Probably I don't understand how to use whatsapp. Utube videos and google aren't helping. I added them to my phone's contacts but they don't show up on my whatsapp contacts. So maybe they don't have the app. This fshit is frustrating maybe I will have to text them on my home plan and see if they respond.[/QUOTE]LOL. Nobody is going to respond to a text. That is pretty much an American thing these days. Nobody that travels overseas or lives in a different country uses SMS anymore. After you have added them to the contact list in your phone using the +57 3xx-xxx-xxxx, go to whatsapp and click the magnifying glass at the top right. Type in the name that you saved in your contacts. If they have whatsapp then it will pop up. Click on it and type.

How did you meet this person? Because these days whether I meet a person online or in person, I do not ask for their phone number. I instead ask if they have whatsapp. Then they will say yes, this is the number. I will put it in my phone and send them a message immediately that says "from Me".

I see noticeable changes in the last year. Still night of the living dead after dark but slightly less than before. Cops are shooing younger groups away from the Iglesia de la Veracruz church bar area looks less rowdy and populated during weekend nights. They installed new pedestrian tile, and a historical see through plexiglass of what could be ancient aqua ducts.

New D1 grocery store on calle 51 past carr 54.

Forward progress probably not good for the hobby IMHO.

Calle 53/ Avenida Degrieff area late at night is still Apocalypse now. The cool guys wear flip flops and shorts there and always have their backs to a wall when checking their iphones.

I used two decent, close by 5 mil cop s/t hotels to take sg's and most traveled to or knew about them.

Lots more Venezuelans freelancing in Botero plaza. DR flashback.

The airport shuttle behind hotel Nutibara for 10 k cop doesn't operate 24/7 anymore. Casas still great at the lesser known ones.

Asking prices creeping up from hotels to casas to sg's.
Local food's still great value. If you enjoy it, consider bringing a bottle of your favorite BBQ and hot sauce from home. Rico!

[QUOTE=Bill;2296787]Calle 53/ Avenida Degrieff area late at night is still Apocalypse now. The cool guys wear flip flops and shorts there and always have their backs to a wall when checking their iphones.[/QUOTE]That was me. And it is a Galaxy, not an iPhone.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296787]The airport shuttle behind hotel Nutibara for 10 k cop doesn't operate 24/7 anymore.[/QUOTE]It did not operate 24/7 before. There were a couple of hours late in the night that it did not run. Like from 2 am to 3:30 or something.

[QUOTE=Bill;2296787]............. Local food's still great value. If you enjoy it, consider bringing a bottle of your favorite BBQ and hot sauce from home. Rico![/QUOTE]At the Plaza Minorista a lady sells bottled marinade that includes all sorts of ingredients and spices which she makes on the spot. Delicious.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2296747]Get the T-mobile One Plus plan and you will not have to worry about wifi. You can use your internet overseas for free. I even have free calls to and from Mexico and Canada and my bill is only $70.[/QUOTE]I use between .5 and 2 Gigs of data a month and my bill is $25 to $40. My max bill is $80 but only if I use 6 Gigs or more of data, which has never happened. I get full LTE speeds, not 3 G like you frequently get on T-mobile. Google billing and customer service is way superior to T-Mobile and it uses both the T-Mobile and Sprint Networks which makes it more reliable. I have used it in Colombia, Peru, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, Canada, Japan, Philippines, Singapore, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia and New Zealand. When the T-Mobile partner network was down in Peru, I was fine my phone auto-switched to the Sprint partner network. I had T-Mobile a few years ago and had awful billing and customer service problems.

When I'm on wifi, I get free calling back and from the US. When I'm out and about on the cellular network it is 20 cents a minute. I get unlimited SMS around the world.

One of my favorite features is they give you a free 2nd Sim card you can put into a laptop, tablet or 2nd phone. I use it in a 2nd, cheap unlocked phone which I tend to take out at night in case it gets jacked.

Here is a link for a $20 credit signing up for the service.

[URL]https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT[/URL]

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2297014]I use between .5 and 2 Gigs of data a month and my bill is $25 to $40. My max bill is $80 but only if I use 6 Gigs or more of data, which has never happened. I get full LTE speeds, not 3 G like you frequently get on T-mobile. Google billing and customer service is way superior to T-Mobile and it uses both the T-Mobile and Sprint Networks which makes it more reliable. I have used it in Colombia, Peru, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Chile, Canada, Japan, Philippines, Singapore, Cambodia, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Australia and New Zealand. When the T-Mobile partner network was down in Peru, I was fine my phone auto-switched to the Sprint partner network. I had T-Mobile a few years ago and had awful billing and customer service problems.
[/QUOTE]I agree, Google Fi is the way to go for international travel to anywhere. Just one SIM that works at home and essentially everywhere as soon as you get off the plane. It worked amazingly in Europe when I was there. Looks like it works great in South America as well. Don't have to worry about getting a SIM and it expiring like it does in Colombia. $20 for unlimited text and call (extra for international calling), with $10 a gig until 6 gigs after which it is free. So your bill is max $80.

Been wanting to go to Medellin, Colombia for a long time and finally went for 3 nights weekend trip.

It was a short trip, but with all the information available here, was able to make a list of places to go.

Wish my report can help few newbies wanting to visit the city and enjoy it.

Uber- Never once took the taxi since I do not speak any Spanish at all. Uber worked great.

Bank ATM- Used the Davivienda bank since someone mentioned that they do not charge any fees. Which was true but I got killed with my own Bank of America bank ATM fees.

Also, note that this bank gave me an option to withdraw 1,500 k which is about $500 dollars.

For newbies, once you get to ATM machine, just put the card into the machine.

I was a bit intimidated with Spanish written screen, but once ATM card was inserted, it gave me an option in English.

Food- Stayed in Poblado area so there was plenty of eatery around for cheap. Really enjoyed empanadas and Colombian hot dogs.

OK, here some my experiences with mongering.

Loutron- located on the hills by very fancy residential area. Uber dropped me off at wrong location so had to walk down a bit to find this place. 300 k per HR. And saw some 10's.

Liked the fact the girls show their body during the intro. Obviously, it's on higher side but glad that I tried.

Gusto night club- 15 k cover. Went Friday and Saturday nights but did not see much. Was packed with gringos. Only cool or funny thing was few girls that I saw on Youtube video about Parque Lleras, they were in this club.

Fase Dos- No cover. Quick drive from Poblado. Girls were OK not great. Price is 190 k and on-site rooms are very clean with shower. Visited all three nights during my stay and same girls worked on those nights.

La Isla- 10 k cover charge. Really had high hopes for this place but did not see any pretty girls here. Visited both Friday and Saturday nights and was disappointed. Many girls just sat on the couch and playing with their phone.

New Life- Visited Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. 50 k for 30 min and girls are like next door types. There were tons of gringos as I waited more than 20 min since all the girls were taken each time. Each girl that I tried had a pleasant attitude.

My thought on the Medellin, Colombia- Beautiful city with friendly people. Everything was cheap and felt very safe around the city.

Also, was surprised how many tourists were visiting the city. Maybe, I had high hopes where city had nothing but 10's walking around but maybe my expectations were too high or bad timing.

However, I never had a bad sex with each girls I tried. They all wanted to pleased and make sure I was happy (hard to say about women in America).

Not sure why but I am intrigued to visit Cali next time. Noticed that Cali isn't talked about much on this forum, but I would like to visit next month or so.

The Google fi website and several postings on ISG talk about the costs for you as the Google fi user.

But what are the costs for the Colombian girl to text you if she is not using Whatsapp but her local cell phone provider (Claro, Moviestar)?

Is it easy for the girls to text your Google fi phone? Maybe a simplified trick such as text then first so they automatically have your number? But I am afraid they may not text me when they see the non-local number and assume they will be paying international rates and thus not text back. I am interested in any problems now and the solutions before I buy a fi phone.

Why not just download whatsapp?

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2297388]The Google fi website and several postings on ISG talk about the costs for you as the Google fi user.

But what are the costs for the Colombian girl to text you if she is not using Whatsapp but her local cell phone provider (Claro, Moviestar)?

Is it easy for the girls to text your Google fi phone? Maybe a simplified trick such as text then first so they automatically have your number? But I am afraid they may not text me when they see the non-local number and assume they will be paying international rates and thus not text back. I am interested in any problems now and the solutions before I buy a fi phone.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2297147]Been wanting to go to Medellin, Colombia for a long time and finally went for 3 nights weekend trip.



Also, was surprised how many tourists were visiting the city. Maybe, I had high hopes where city had nothing but 10's walking around but maybe my expectations were too high or bad timing.

However, I never had a bad sex with each girls I tried. They all wanted to pleased and make sure I was happy (hard to say about women in America).

[/QUOTE]Try to make friends on Colombian Cupid. You might find women in mid 30's or 40's but great body, color and GFE experience. Clean with lots of BBBJ and all you want. All working women and clean.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2297388]The Google fi website and several postings on ISG talk about the costs for you as the Google fi user.

But what are the costs for the Colombian girl to text you if she is not using Whatsapp but her local cell phone provider (Claro, Moviestar)?

Is it easy for the girls to text your Google fi phone? Maybe a simplified trick such as text then first so they automatically have your number? But I am afraid they may not text me when they see the non-local number and assume they will be paying international rates and thus not text back. I am interested in any problems now and the solutions before I buy a fi phone.[/QUOTE]They won't text you. Practically nobody uses text messages in Colombia. They are all using Whatsapp.

The simple trick is to ask the girl for her WhatsApp. Open your contact list on your phone (not Whatsapp). Type in her name. Enter the country code of +57 and then hand her your phone. After she punches in the number, save the contact and open WhatsApp. Send a message to her, I usually just send my name. She'll add you, you can message away.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2297147]Been wanting to go to Medellin, Colombia for a long time and finally went for 3 nights weekend trip.

It was a short trip, but with all the information available here, was able to make a list of places to go.

Wish my report can help few newbies wanting to visit the city and enjoy it.

.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your report. I'm going to Medellin this weekend. This is not my first time however it's been three years or so. I didn’t experience a lot of gringos as you had. Small groups of guys it is what I observed in the casa area. I to remember that the chicas try to adhere to customer service. Thank you again.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/carolina.taborda.92372[/URL]

Looks good. Maybe puta. Maybe not. But would be nice to have jajaja.

https://www.facebook.com/mariela.pineda.1422

she is puta Meri

another puta
https://www.facebook.com/lina.betancur.16

hard to get hold of these girls on facebook...not all respond...but if u no their friends then maybe can c them si

I have just returned home from my maiden trip to Medellin.

A few notes and observations from this trip.

I used this forum as my main research tool for the trip. Thank you to the members who have contributed to this site.

I took a lot of time to find somewhere suitable to stay. My needs were a good kitchen, security and an area where I can walk in the day time.

I settled on an AirBNB place in Laureles. I like the area. I prefer entertaining my ladies at home where I have full control rather than going.

Out for casa visits, strip clubs etc. I was by myself so maybe next trip I will venture out more, but I was in my comfort zone operating this way.

I spent my time with mostly pros. I did a couple of non pros with mixed success, had I stayed here longer I might have been tempted to date more.

Non- working girls.

Some were from facebook and I used the photoprepagos site.

These 2 methods took enough work to manage. I am on holidays so this was as much effort as I was willing to put it. I did consider using SA and Tinder, but I had.

Enough success with the 2 aforementioned methods.

Most of my experiences were really good, some excellent and a few went badly.

I did spend a fair bit of time with a lady that has been well reviewed on here before. Like most reviewers I found her to be a little sweetheart and great company.

However her use by date is approaching. The wrong side of 30 now and the booze and drugs use are starting to show. She can have a bit of a shitty temper when she is coming down.

Of her highs as well. Saying that she is still worth calling out for a service and will remain a good provider for another couple of years.

The worst experience I had was with another FB chica that has been mentioned on here. V. R. - turned up 2.5 hours late, totally off her head drug fucked and provided overall a shitty service. Her.

Body needs some more exercise to tone it up and she called an Uber on my phone app when I was not looking after I already gave her taxi money. Pity because I was looking forward to doing her.

And under the right circumstances I could imagine her to be good fun. Ah it happens.

The best experiences I had all trip were with girls from Photoprepagos and one from Gusto's. Who I picked up outside. I like the filter system on photoprepagos. I found it useful to find someone that is open to what you have in mind for.

A particular session. Getting price quotes for a service is where I first noticed Gringo prices. I experimented a bit using a local sim and then with my work phone. There was often a 50 to 100 COP price difference.

All texts were sent in Spanish in case you were wondering.

Just a few more last thoughts.

Lessons learnt in other countries can be applied here.

I booked a modern comfortable apartment for my stay and provided drinks, food and music for my guests. Once they are comfortable and relaxed you will get better service out of them.

I like to cook and I found the girls generally liked having a meal cooked for them. I had one smoking hottie took a liking to my cooking. She would come around for dinner, give me a freebie and then go out and sell.

It for $200 at Gusto's. No budding master-chefs you are not getting her name.

Invest in a good pair of walking shoes.

Try to pay cash in restaurants and use ATM's to obtain local currency. I have a citibank card and I got a very good rate at the ATMs.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2297485]Try to make friends on Colombian Cupid. You might find women in mid 30's or 40's but great body, color and GFE experience. Clean with lots of BBBJ and all you want. All working women and clean.[/QUOTE]Use precaution.

"The modus operandi for the crimes varies but one common tactic that was reported was the use of social networks like Facebook, Tinder, and Colombian Cupid identified as the most popular to lure victims. ".

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/medellins-scopolamine-threat/[/URL]

Beside the drug talked about in the article, I've spoken to guys that have also been given a drug that completely knocks you out while a chica steals your cell, computer, cash, etc.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2297815]Use precaution.

"The modus operandi for the crimes varies but one common tactic that was reported was the use of social networks like Facebook, Tinder, and Colombian Cupid identified as the most popular to lure victims. ".

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/medellins-scopolamine-threat/[/URL]

Beside the drug talked about in the article, I've spoken to guys that have also been given a drug that completely knocks you out while a chica steals your cell, computer, cash, etc.[/QUOTE]Most guys here think this wouldn't happen to them. LOL.

I always suggest using precaution.

Know a guy who moved out to Medellin recently get drugged. Told him before his behavior was dangerous didn't listen and wouldn't you know it!!

This is one of the reasons along with others why I don't like casas or street girls. I always bring them to my place where security is thorough.

If I do meet a girl at a club I'm always with my local buddy who acts like my bodyguard LOL.

This is more common than you think.

All these girls knows some dude that's from their hood that are up to no good. These guys know what the girls are up to and try to get them to go along with robbing and drugging people and etc.

I remember talking to a girl who lived deep in the barrios and I asked her what do guys do there to make money in her hood. She straight up said lots of them go out and drug / rob people in centro or anywhere there's an opportunity. I asked her this after we had already hung out for a few dates. We even partied with her friends up in Manrique, maybe I'm living on the edge of edgeness. But after she told me that, I said ok cool, let's get back to fucking LOL. She's just a hot piece of ass worth dying for haha. Anyways, always be aware of your sorroundings, don't get too wasted or high, and vet the girls if you can. One method for me is for the girls I connect well with to in turn connect me with their hot friends. Works wonders.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2297896]Most guys here think this wouldn't happen to them. LOL.

I always suggest using precaution.

Know a guy who moved out to Medellin recently get drugged. Told him before his behavior was dangerous didn't listen and wouldn't you know it!!

This is one of the reasons along with others why I don't like casas or street girls. I always bring them to my place where security is thorough.

If I do meet a girl at a club I'm always with my local buddy who acts like my bodyguard LOL.

This is more common than you think.

All these girls knows some dude that's from their hood that are up to no good. These guys know what the girls are up to and try to get them to go along with robbing and drugging people and etc.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone ever heard of somebody being drugged and robbed at a casa?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2297896]Most guys here think this wouldn't happen to them. LOL.

I always suggest using precaution.

Know a guy who moved out to Medellin recently get drugged. Told him before his behavior was dangerous didn't listen and wouldn't you know it!!

This is one of the reasons along with others why I don't like casas or street girls. I always bring them to my place where security is thorough.

If I do meet a girl at a club I'm always with my local buddy who acts like my bodyguard LOL.

This is more common than you think.

All these girls knows some dude that's from their hood that are up to no good. These guys know what the girls are up to and try to get them to go along with robbing and drugging people and etc.[/QUOTE]

I love your report. Thanks for taking the time to write it. One question: why do you recommend paying in cash at restaurants? I never do so I want to see if I'm missing out on something. I am a working girl for frequent flyer points.

[QUOTE=ReefTip;2297618]I have just returned home from my maiden trip to Medellin.

A few notes and observations from this trip.

I used this forum as my main research tool for the trip. Thank you to the members who have contributed to this site.

I took a lot of time to find somewhere suitable to stay. My needs were a good kitchen, security and an area where I can walk in the day time.

I settled on an AirBNB place in Laureles. I like the area. I prefer entertaining my ladies at home where I have full control rather than going.

Out for casa visits, strip clubs etc. I was by myself so maybe next trip I will venture out more, but I was in my comfort zone operating this way.

I spent my time with mostly pros. I did a couple of non pros with mixed success, had I stayed here longer I might have been tempted to date more.

Non- working girls.

Some were from facebook and I used the photoprepagos site..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2297896]Most guys here think this wouldn't happen to them. LOL.

I always suggest using precaution.

Know a guy who moved out to Medellin recently get drugged. Told him before his behavior was dangerous didn't listen and wouldn't you know it!!

This is one of the reasons along with others why I don't like casas or street girls. I always bring them to my place where security is thorough.

If I do meet a girl at a club I'm always with my local buddy who acts like my bodyguard LOL.

This is more common than you think.

All these girls knows some dude that's from their hood that are up to no good. These guys know what the girls are up to and try to get them to go along with robbing and drugging people and etc.[/QUOTE]I think there are pluses and minuses. Before I invite a chica to my domicilio, I like to do our first date at a "Love Hotel" and there are tons of them. This way she won't have access to anything I have in my room.

Not only that but there are cameras at the check-in and at least some of the places the door locks once you enter and only after you call when you're finished (and they check the mini-bar) do they let you out.

If we have a nice time and the vibe is good I might have her over the next time. I think it's a cheap way to "vet" the lady beforehand. Now some places have porteros (desk staff) that the girl has to go through.

Including copying their ID and getting a phone confirmation before they allow them to leave. OK that's a different layout. But if you are in a Air-bnb or a room and there isn't security. Be careful!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2297908]Has anyone ever heard of somebody being drugged and robbed at a casa?[/QUOTE]The YouTube video on the devils breath a guy and his friend got drugged at a *****house in Bogota. So anything is possible.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2297896]Know a guy who moved out to Medellin recently get drugged. Told him before his behavior was dangerous didn't listen and wouldn't you know it!!

This is one of the reasons along with others why I don't like casas or street girls.[/QUOTE]What was your buddy's behavior? With street and casa girls you are usually in and out. You are not sitting with them chillin alone. Casa is full of people with a supervisor. You are in and out of the place. A chick could not drug you then go sit in the lobby and wait for the next customer. With street girls you go to the room and fuck them and leave. Not really having any meals or beverages with them in order for them to spike your stuff. Unless you are sucking on some laced nipples or something. And most street girls work out of the same motel, so...

My buddy was drugged in a normal club in Bogota. He was not partying hard or anything. He just had 1 beer. My cousin used to hack computers when he was too young to be prosecuted. These days he does not even have any protection on his computers. If they want to get you then they are going to get you, regardless of the precautions you take.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2297949]What was your buddy's behavior? With street and casa girls you are usually in and out. You are not sitting with them chillin alone. Casa is full of people with a supervisor. You are in and out of the place. A chick could not drug you then go sit in the lobby and wait for the next customer. With street girls you go to the room and fuck them and leave. Not really having any meals or beverages with them in order for them to spike your stuff. Unless you are sucking on some laced nipples or something. And most street girls work out of the same motel, so...

My buddy was drugged in a normal club in Bogota. He was not partying hard or anything. He just had 1 beer. My cousin used to hack computers when he was too young to be prosecuted. These days he does not even have any protection on his computers. If they want to get you then they are going to get you, regardless of the precautions you take.[/QUOTE]About a month or so ago on Veracruz, I entered a Motel with a girl.

Before entering I bought her a beer that she brought with her to the room.

She drank about half the beer and set it aside, we undressed, etc.

During sex she kept insisting that I grab the bottle and drink the beer.
Even when I said I didn’t want any, she insisted.
I ended up fake drinking some, never really drinking any, hell no!

When I offered her the bottle, she refused saying she had enough, and it was for me.

My senses, and her actions had me thinking that it was likely that she spiked the beer.

I don't know for sure, but I sure wasn't going to drink it.

That precaution most likely saved me from being drugged / robbed.

Precautions and street sense will definitely keep you safer then not heeding them.

They prey on the unwitting, non-precautions type guy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2297949]What was your buddy's behavior? With street and casa girls you are usually in and out. You are not sitting with them chillin alone. Casa is full of people with a supervisor. You are in and out of the place. A chick could not drug you then go sit in the lobby and wait for the next customer. With street girls you go to the room and fuck them and leave. Not really having any meals or beverages with them in order for them to spike your stuff. Unless you are sucking on some laced nipples or something. And most street girls work out of the same motel, so...

My buddy was drugged in a normal club in Bogota. He was not partying hard or anything. He just had 1 beer. My cousin used to hack computers when he was too young to be prosecuted. These days he does not even have any protection on his computers. If they want to get you then they are going to get you, regardless of the precautions you take.[/QUOTE]The guy was over aggressive with girls. Because he was a foreigner he thought he was some sort of prize for these girls and I knew right away one day the wrong girl is going to take advantage.

He doesn't get that women in Medellin are extremely friendly and even when rejecting you they are very polite about it.

He just assumed he can get any girl he wanted even approaching girls who would be with guys.

Just a typical foreigner thinking they are a prize for these girls.

That's why I always say Colombia is not like DR or CR. I use these 2 countries as examples because I'm seeing a lot of guys who use to monger exclusively there are now turning their attention to Colombia.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2297929]I love your report. Thanks for taking the time to write it. One question: why do you recommend paying in cash at restaurants? I never do so I want to see if I'm missing out on something. I am a working girl for frequent flyer points.[/QUOTE]I found most restaurants charged a hefty premium for using plastic.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2297936]I think there are pluses and minuses. Before I invite a chica to my domicilio, I like to do our first date at a "Love Hotel" and there are tons of them. This way she won't have access to anything I have in my room.

Not only that but there are cameras at the check-in and at least some of the places the door locks once you enter and only after you call when you're finished (and they check the mini-bar) do they let you out.

If we have a nice time and the vibe is good I might have her over the next time. I think it's a cheap way to "vet" the lady beforehand. Now some places have porteros (desk staff) that the girl has to go through.

Including copying their ID and getting a phone confirmation before they allow them to leave. OK that's a different layout. But if you are in a Air-bnb or a room and there isn't security. Be careful![/QUOTE]I like your vetting process!

Make sure you say you want your card to be charged in pesos in the local currency or else they can tag 3% or more fee if they have to convert to US dollars on the transaction. By default, they should charge in pesos, but it's good practice to double check that before they swipe the card.

[QUOTE=ReefTip;2298004]I found most restaurants charged a hefty premium for using plastic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2298157]Make sure you say you want your card to be charged in pesos in the local currency or else they can tag 3% or more fee if they have to convert to US dollars on the transaction. By default, they should charge in pesos, but it's good practice to double check that before they swipe the card.[/QUOTE]I have never seen a surcharge for plastic anywhere that accepts in MDE except the Mansion. I have a credit card that charges no foreign transaction fees and always just say Pesos Colombiana when I hand over my card. I use a charge that provides triple points for restaurant charges and charging frequently allows me to carry less cash on me. The only scam I see is when the waiter tries to add on a hefty 'Tip' when a service charge is already included in the bill. This happens frequently at Basilica. I always get that removed without much hassle. When my wallet was stolen in Medellin last summer (I was a scopolamine victim) I was glad I had little cash and a charge card in the wallet. The thief managed to rack up $13k in charges by the time I woke up but I was not held responsible.

I almost always use a CC with no foreign transaction fees to pay for drinks / food at the middle to higher end restaurants and rack up points / miles. 99 out of 100 I have no problem, but one time I was slapped with a 3% fee after the fact at Tabu (Indian restaurant in Poblado). Waiter gave me the reason as conversion fee to USD, never heard that before. Whether it's true or not, that was my experience.

Most restaurants ask if you want to include 10% tip on the bill when you ask for the check. I always say yes, but I do double check to make sure it's 10% and not 20%!

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;2298197]I have never seen a surcharge for plastic anywhere that accepts in MDE except the Mansion. I have a credit card that charges no foreign transaction fees and always just say Pesos Colombiana when I hand over my card. I use a charge that provides triple points for restaurant charges and charging frequently allows me to carry less cash on me. The only scam I see is when the waiter tries to add on a hefty 'Tip' when a service charge is already included in the bill. This happens frequently at Basilica. I always get that removed without much hassle. When my wallet was stolen in Medellin last summer (I was a scopolamine victim) I was glad I had little cash and a charge card in the wallet. The thief managed to rack up $13k in charges by the time I woke up but I was not held responsible.[/QUOTE]

We go from Girls, to Strip clubs, to casas, to street girls of Vera Cruz, to Robbery, Credit card fees, uber vs taxi, centro vs Poblado, back to being drugged, robbed, and safety. I love it, absolutely love it. Its nearly impossible to get the name of new talent or new girls, because too many on the board bring up the foolishness of robbery, Poblado, protecting the girls identity, truth is, many of you who are being robbed in Colombia, were being robbed in your native country as well, sad thing is, you didn't learn a thing from being robbed. So lets list a few do's & don't's. No one pours my drink, no one rolls my smoke, I go to no one's location for sex, we don't flash cash in foreign countries. If you are adhering to these simple rules, you minimize much of the risk of being robbed, drugged, or taken advantage of, Pollo Negro is out!

Hello fellow mongers,

I will be making my first stop in Medellin on Mar 24 - Mar 29th. Thanks to this forum I have been able to do a ton of research as far as what to expect, where all to stay and go, etc. Everyone's contributions are greatly appreciated. I do have a few questions before arriving that I was hoping to get answers to, but will first list out what I plan to do while there in order to give back to future members that may find it useful.

I will be staying in an AirBnB in Poblado. The building has security, and I confirmed that I will be able to have guests over; they will just have to register at the front desk. I know I am overpaying for the area, but I prefer a nice place to lay my head, and knowing that security will assist in checking the chicas in gave me some relief after reading the last page or two about drugging / robberies. That said I know there will still be risks.

I plan to hit up casas throughout the late morning / mid afternoon. I will utilize the map and start with the ones I have seen good recommendations for on this forum. I also plan to check out the Centro Sws as well as the seen at Mayorista, but typically in previous areas I've visited (Mainly Mexico the Sws were ever only so-so at best). Does anyone recommend Mayorista anymore? I used to read about it a lot more in posts going back a few years, but not recently.

At nighttime I plan to do a bit of perusing photoprepagos as well as hitting up the Centro strip clubs. I have read about the dangers of Centro at night and have factored that into my decision to check out the strip clubs. Plan to Uber straight there and straight back. Also plan to take in the Parque Lleras scene as well, but unless something falls in my lap, not excited about overpaying just to find a casa girl that happens to be in this area.

The higher end strip clubs don't really interest me as I'm not too keen to pay the steep drink prices and inflated chica prices unless I'm there with others. But it is always an option.

I have also considered getting a room at the Mansion for one night just to say I've experienced it. However will probably wait until closer just be / see I'm so meh on it and then realize they are sold out. Is it worth the experience once? (As of earlier this week they had some availability still).

So here are a few questions that are still lingering. If anyone can assist I greatly appreciate the assistance.

I know there is a wealth of info on getting cash. Whether it be from ATMs or exchanges. For personal reasons I am not able to use a debit card. I will have means to cash once in the country, but my predicament is in my flight in. I am arriving early around 1-2 AM (got to love JetBlue routes) and so I assume the airport cambios won't be open. I also read that Uber is not allowed at the MDE airport. Can anyone confirm this is still a thing? If so can I pay my taxi driver with a credit card? Or should I look into a private driver that I can pay with a credit card? What would you all do in the same position?

In previous trips the price of generic Viagra / Cialis was all over the board. I could pay $10 USD for 2 pills, walk down the street and then pay $7 USD for ten pills. Are there any pharmacies anyone recommends that are known for selling it cheap? Is the price pretty much the same everywhere? If so what should I be expecting to pay?

WhatsApp. I planned to just use my typical WhatsApp number from the States but after seeing a previous post where it was mentioned that prices could vary with prepagos texting to an American number I've thought maybe I should look into other options. I could get a SIM just to setup my WhatsApp to a local number, but should I go through the cost of a cheap sim and dealing with my phone company to unlock my phone just to try to save a few bucks? Have others experienced this Gringo pricing difference before? It was the first I've read about it. Furthermore I should mention that my current plan is to use my current American phone plan as for $10/ day I can use all my data and unlimited calls / texts in Colombia. I need my phone to work as normal so I am fine paying this fee. Any other SIM card would only be purchased to setup a local WhatsApp number on my phone.

I know there will always be bait and switch. However are the photos I'm seeing on photoprepagos and mileroticos for the most part accurate? They are way better quality bodies than I am used to seeing in Mexico, and I didn't see many reports of being let down by bait and switch type situations while reading through the forums. I'm sure that question seems naive, but with all the good reviews I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

Lastly am I missing anything that I should be doing / seeing while on my first trip? Would love to get the full experience so feel free to let me know whether positive or negative.

If any of the other mongers are in town that week would love to get a beer or two somewhere. Waiting on PM to be active (Jackson mentioned mid-next week when I enquired) so can't PM just yet as an FYI. Thanks again!

I haven't seen that in Colombia.

[QUOTE=ReefTip;2298004]I found most restaurants charged a hefty premium for using plastic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zdaman101;2298298]Hello fellow mongers,

I will be making my first stop in Medellin on Mar 24 - Mar 29th. Thanks to this forum I have been able to do a ton of research as far as what to expect, where all to stay and go, etc. Everyone's contributions are greatly appreciated. I do have a few questions before arriving that I was hoping to get answers to, but will first list out what I plan to do while there in order to give back to future members that may find it useful.

I will be staying in an AirBnB in Poblado. The building has security, and I confirmed that I will be able to have guests over; they will just have to register at the front desk. I know I am overpaying for the area, but I prefer a nice place to lay my head, and knowing that security will assist in checking the chicas in gave me some relief after reading the last page or two about drugging / robberies. That said I know there will still be risks.

I plan to hit up casas throughout the late morning / mid afternoon. I will utilize the map and start with the ones I have seen good recommendations for on this forum.[/QUOTE]YMMV on your phone service. My T-Mobile worked, but at only 1 G speed. If you are using Whatsapp, it doesn't matter if you have a foreign phone number. There's no need to get a different SIM. Prepagos don't text. They use WhatsApp.

San Ignacio pharmacy on Calle 10 in Poblado has the best prices on sildenafil in Poblado. They give an extra 10% discount on Tuesday and Thursday.

The airport cambio should be open. However, if you have no other means and are worried about it, exchange some cash for pesos at your home airport. You'll get charged a ridiculous fee, but it will give you taxi money.

You can get Uber at the airport, although at 2 am may be tough. Rules for Uber in Colombia, especially anywhere around taxis: treat the driver as an acquaintance and always sit in the front.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2298330]I haven't seen that in Colombia.[/QUOTE]I Have.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=Zdaman101;2298298]
I have also considered getting a room at the Mansion for one night just to say I've experienced it. However will probably wait until closer just be / see I'm so meh on it and then realize they are sold out. Is it worth the experience once? (As of earlier this week they had some availability still).[/QUOTE]You can not stay at the Mansion for just one night they have a minimum stay of at least two nights.

I get there on the 28th, if things work out we can meet up for a drink and I'll give you a crash course on Medellin if you still need it. I usually go yolo solo, but it's time to pass on my Jedi mind trick skills LOL.

[QUOTE=Zdaman101;2298298]Hello fellow mongers,
Lastly am I missing anything that I should be doing / seeing while on my first trip? Would love to get the full experience so feel free to let me know whether positive or negative.

If any of the other mongers are in town that week would love to get a beer or two somewhere. Waiting on PM to be active (Jackson mentioned mid-next week when I enquired) so can't PM just yet as an FYI. Thanks again![/QUOTE]

Anyone else going to be there during this time? I'll be solo so wouldn't mind a meetup a day or so while being there.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2298412]... San Ignacio pharmacy on Calle 10 in Poblado has the best prices on sildenafil in Poblado. They give an extra 10% discount on Tuesday and Thursday.

The airport cambio should be open. However, if you have no other means and are worried about it, exchange some cash for pesos at your home airport. You'll get charged a ridiculous fee, but it will give you taxi money. ...[/QUOTE]San Ignacio Pharmacy closed last year. There is now another pharmacy in the same place, but their prices are more, something like 10 to 12 mil for 4 50 MG tablets.

The OP may look into getting a prepaid debit card, just make sure it has a chip.

[QUOTE=Zdaman101;2298298]... WhatsApp. I planned to just use my typical WhatsApp number from the States but after seeing a previous post where it was mentioned that prices could vary with prepagos texting to an American number I've thought maybe I should look into other options. I could get a SIM just to setup my WhatsApp to a local number, but should I go through the cost of a cheap sim and dealing with my phone company to unlock my phone just to try to save a few bucks? ...[/QUOTE]Most of the ladies in Medellin are very nice. They are not interested in cheating you, drugging you, or robbing you. There are a few bad apples, but very rare. The going rate for most ladies is 150 to 200 mil (150,000 - 200,000 COP) plus taxi one way. That is what you should offer them. A few of the more popular ladies ask for more. If you decide you want to be with them and they won't negotiate, tell them you will pay their rate, but they pay their taxi. Don't worry about them charging a gringo rate.

The main thing you need to be concerned about is trying not to fall in love with any of them. It'll be easy to get emotionally attached to a hot, young, and passionate paisa thatll do bbbj, bbfs, anal and anything you pretty much want . Best way for me is to have a bunch of them, so if I get too attached to one, I'll just fuck another one LOL. Trust me, if you do it right or halfway decent, you'll be planning a return trip before you even make it back home.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2298691]Most of the ladies in Medellin are very nice. They are not interested in cheating you, drugging you, or robbing you. There are a few bad apples, but very rare. The going rate for most ladies is 150 to 200 mil (150,000 - 200,000 COP) plus taxi one way. That is what you should offer them. A few of the more popular ladies ask for more. If you decide you want to be with them and they won't negotiate, tell them you will pay their rate, but they pay their taxi. Don't worry about them charging a gringo rate.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2298680]San Ignacio Pharmacy closed last year. There is now another pharmacy in the same place, but their prices are more, something like 10 to 12 mil for 4 50 MG tablets.

The OP may look into getting a prepaid debit card, just make sure it has a chip.[/QUOTE]Well damn on San Ignacio closing.

On the prepaid card, also make sure it can be used internationally. Bought 1 as an emergency backup and then learned it could only be used in the US.

[QUOTE=DrPorn;2298034]I like your vetting process![/QUOTE]I was laughing with a guy that has been robbed here for his computer and phone after being drugged and still comes back here like nothing happened. Pussy is a strong drug. The guy is in his 30's, not bad looking and lives in Miami. But yeah, a lot of stories are never told because guys are too embarrassed. Not saying you need to be a detective, but stay on your [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord133][CodeWord133][/url] and queues.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2297908]Has anyone ever heard of somebody being drugged and robbed at a casa?[/QUOTE]Never heard of that here. I've been to just about every casa here. I think you are safe in a casa. Not saying you should leave a stack of bills lying out in the open. Use you common sense. Getting drugged in a casa is highly unlikely, IMO.

[QUOTE=Zdaman101;2298298]Hello fellow mongers,
... Thanks again![/QUOTE]Your preplanning looks pretty good to me.

For taxi money I would say put your credit card in the ATM at the airport. Your bank is likely to hit you with fees but it's still better than changing cash. Cambio is for chumps.

Taxis do not take cards. At a pinch you could try offering the taxista dollars but he may not be familiar with them.

ATMs without fee for foreign cards in Colombia are Davivienda (common), Banco Caja Social (less common) and Banco Pichincha (are they even in Medellin?

On photoprepagos the hot pictures may be of the same girl years ago when she was still hot.

Sildenafil (aka Viagra) is made by many different laboratories. I found best value Sildenafil Genfar 4 x50 MG 5900 cop at Farmacia Pasteur (there's a big one on a corner near Veracruz church).

I use a local SIM card with my foreign whatsapp number. Best of all worlds.

Just got back from Medellin for the first time. I went with a small group of friends and we stayed near the El Poblado area at the Dann Carlton Belfort. I read a good amount of forums that helped a lot with places to visit out there. Let's get to it.

Day 1: We arrived at the airport around 3 pm. Got to our hotel around 5 ish. Called the hotel to pick us before hand and the sent a guy to pick us up in a van. Which was 160 l pesos for 4 of us. Came to find out that was really expensive but split 4 ways it wasn't bad for me. That night we went to La Isla club. There was at least 40 chicas there not night. And a variety of everything! We all got a beer I believe it was 25 k pesos which was a crazy amount as well. I ended up going to the back with a chica in her early 30's with a great body! It was a good time though easily the hottest chick I've been with LOL. All of us paid the same price 300 k pesos for 45 minutes. Experience was good nonetheless. Went back to the hotel and got some rest.

Day 2: After breakfast we headed to New Life around 11 am. Area seemed good during the day. Walked through the blue door and got buzzed in the next 2 doors. We set in a booth and ordered some Medellin Rum which was my favorite drink out there. The host came and brought our drinks and said there wasn't that many chicas there because they just opened and there still coming. So the chicas came out 1 by 1 and introduced there self. I would say the chicas that day ranged from a 5 to 8 in my opinion. I had my eye on a shorter young petite chica named Salome! Went to the back with here they have prices on the wall which were really cheap in my opinion. I took a shower and session started. Paid extra 30 k for BBBJ which she was fine with. I bust 2 nuts and I was out in a hour. She had a nice body and it was a good session. I tipped here 20 k and I believe I paid 80 k to the person at the window. Came back out in the lobby which my buddies were there waiting. We ordered more drinks and talked about the experience. As we were talking I seen another chica that wasn't in the original lineup that caught my eye. I told the host that I would like to get with her as well. I'm normally a one and done guy but I guess I was in the mood. She was about 5'7, thick, and a cute face. Just had her in a few positions, didn't ask for anything extra and just nutted once. That session was good only thing was she had a really big scar on her stomach I believed I tipped her 20 k and paid the 30 minutes was 50 k pesos. We left back to the hotel rested and grabbed some food later in the day. We had 2 more guys come in from the airport that night and they wanted to have some fun! So back out we go. We went to Luna Luneras around 11 or 12 at night. We got there and I seen about 15 girls right away. I would say they had a good variety of chicas as well. I wanted a real petite chica this time. I seen one that really caught my eye. We discussed price and I believe all the chicas have the same rate there for time. 1 hour was 250 k but I just got 30 minutes which was 150 k pesos. Rooms were decent. Took a shower and session started. She gave a good BBBJ for an extra 30 k pesos. And had great body, long legs, and really nice face. Really enjoyed that session. I got her what's app number!

Day 3: in the morning we get breakfast at the hotel and then we go smoke some cigars at La Cava Puro in El Poblado area. They have real good vibes and Cuban cigars. Then we hit New Life around 12 pm. Same deal as day 2 but more chicas this time! I get a older woman this time maybe late 30's but looks good! I wanted to try something a little older this time. Session wasn't the best because this was her 3 day working in that casa. She was kind of shy, quiet. She seemed like she didn't want to be there. Wasn't horrible but just not that good. I nutted in doggystlye and left out. I tipped her 10 k pesos and paid 50 k to the window. I waited in the lobby and ordered drinks waiting on my buddies. They came we left to grab food, and came right back to New life around 6:30 pm. This time I was looking for more then looks, I was looking for good vibes so I could have a good session. I had found one that caught my eye. A little on the taller and thicker side of what I like but I have it a try. And I'm happy I did! Great session all around. Gave her 30 k pesos tip and paid 95 k pesos at the window! Also extra 30 k pesos for a BBBJ. That night I wanted to see if the chica from Luna Luneras would come to my hotel. She said yes but at 2 am. So I said sure, and we agreed on 200 k and I pay one way of her taxi. She showed up on time but I believe I was tired or something because I couldn't stay on hard LOL. She did everything she could. She wanted to stay the night, and I thought about it and I said sure! She end up staying the night and I got redemption in the morning! Gave her a 100 k pesos as she was leaving. The hotel was supposed to charge me 85 k pesos per guest but at the end no charge.

Day 4: Actually took a break after the morning session. Got some sleep, smoked some cigars, went to go buy some souvenirs, takes some pictures, and went to the mall. At night we went back to the Luna Luneras. Same setup about 15 chicas but I believe all were different or almost all. Ask I was walking in this time security had patted us down which was different from the first time but not a problem at all. After I got patted down this chica came up to me and in Spanish she said it's my turn and start grabbing my dick so hey LOL. I liked her vibe and she was definitely cute enough for me to take back. We all looked around and looked at chicas but I already had my eye on the one. So I went an hour in the back with her for 250 k pesos. She wanted me to buy her a drink which was I believe 30 k pesos which I did. The room was big and had strobes light, music, and porno playing. After 2 nuts got her what's app and I was done! Everybody took a taxi back to the hotel. A buddy of mine end of meeting a female that spoke good English from one of the clubs I forgot which one but he offered her 400 k pesos to be with him all day and take us on a little tour with the metro cables for the next day. So I offered the same thing to the girl from the other night. She gladly accepted.

Day 5: was basically just hanging out with that girl had like 3 sessions with her and went to the metro cables. We went to the top of the mountains and walked around. It was a good experience. She basically slept over till the next morning. I had to leave the next day unfortunately.

Wish I would've stayed longer but I had a great experience. I understand Spanish well and I speak a little Spanish so I felt like that kind of helped. I wish I was fluent. But I will be back April 26 to May 2nd. I wanted to try Conejitas and Bara executivos but the neighborhood was sketchy and I chickened out LOL I know there is a lot more spots I have to try as well until next time!

Went to foreigner heaven, or New Life sala de masajes think its called.

Nice line up. Chose Tiffany. Tight body, 5' 4" 20's brunette. In the room and I went for her quim and she said in spanish "that's 50 k extra. " I told her not acceptable and she replied "the minimum is 20 k".

Pass, then mish after sucking mommy be tits and came because she was still visually hot. Total DFE eyes closed. Got dressed and just outside the door was reminded to take the card to the desk and pay. 50 k total. Silly rabbit, tips are for kids! Pretty sure these girls are spoiled by gringo behavior or didn't play it right ni modo, there are better casas that aren't full of Americans doing what Americans feel comfortable doing. Mrs E, comments not welcome LOL LOL LOL!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2298691]Most of the ladies in Medellin are very nice. They are not interested in cheating you, drugging you, or robbing you. There are a few bad apples, but very rare. The going rate for most ladies is 150 to 200 mil (150,000 - 200,000 COP) plus taxi one way. That is what you should offer them. A few of the more popular ladies ask for more. If you decide you want to be with them and they won't negotiate, tell them you will pay their rate, but they pay their taxi. Don't worry about them charging a gringo rate.[/QUOTE]Just to give you guys an idea of the types of girls I'm into and roll with who are available to those that do their homework. One of them works or use to work at Energy.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2298850]Your preplanning looks pretty good to me.

For taxi money I would say put your credit card in the ATM at the airport. Your bank is likely to hit you with fees but it's still better than changing cash. Cambio is for chumps.

Taxis do not take cards. At a pinch you could try offering the taxista dollars but he may not be familiar with them.

ATMs without fee for foreign cards in Colombia are Davivienda (common), Banco Caja Social (less common) and Banco Pichincha (are they even in Medellin?

On photoprepagos the hot pictures may be of the same girl years ago when she was still hot.

Sildenafil (aka Viagra) is made by many different laboratories. I found best value Sildenafil Genfar 4 x50 MG 5900 cop at Farmacia Pasteur (there's a big one on a corner near Veracruz church).

I use a local SIM card with my foreign whatsapp number. Best of all worlds.[/QUOTE]There's a Banco Pichincha in Poblado. It's on Avenida Poblado south of Santa Fe mall, across the street from the DHL building. I think there's another in El Centro, but not sure of the location.

Last I used it it allowed a max of 1 million per withdrawal, and you could make multiple withdrawals on the same transaction. You just need to re-enter your PIN for each withdrawal. Saves a few seconds if you're pulling out a lot.

Fat asses, what's not to like?

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2298964]Just to give you guys an idea of the types of girls I'm into and roll with who are available to those that do their homework. One of them works or use to work at Energy.[/QUOTE]

You got better and better every day of your stay. You will really enjoy you next visit. FYI the neighborhood of Conejitas and Barra Ejecutiva is no worse than the streets around New Life. Luna girls will accept 150 K for hotel dates. I can tell you will figure that and the rest of the prices on your own. We look forward to your next report.

[QUOTE=HeavyD24;2298867]Just got back from Medellin for the first time. I went with a small group of friends and we stayed near the El Poblado area at the Dann Carlton Belfort. I read a good amount of forums that helped a lot with places to visit out there. Let's get to it.

Day 1: We arrived at the airport around 3 pm. Got to our hotel around 5 ish. Called the hotel to pick us before hand and the sent a guy to pick us up in a van. Which was 160 l pesos for 4 of us. Came to find out that was really expensive but split 4 ways it wasn't bad for me. That night we went to La Isla club. There was at least 40 chicas there not night. And a variety of everything! We all got a beer I believe it was 25 k pesos which was a crazy amount as well. I ended up going to the back with a chica in her early 30's with a great body! It was a good time though easily the hottest chick I've been with LOL. All of us paid the same price 300 k pesos for 45 minutes. Experience was good nonetheless. Went back to the hotel and got some rest.[/QUOTE]

Uber accepts credit cards.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2298850]Your preplanning looks pretty good to me.

For taxi money I would say put your credit card in the ATM at the airport. Your bank is likely to hit you with fees but it's still better than changing cash. Cambio is for chumps.

Taxis do not take cards. At a pinch you could try offering the taxista dollars but he may not be familiar with them.

ATMs without fee for foreign cards in Colombia are Davivienda (common), Banco Caja Social (less common) and Banco Pichincha (are they even in Medellin?.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but 150 k for most is true for the facebook girls. Most are happy with 50 K if you aren't in a Poblado hotel or high end airbnb. You aren't going to get local rates in that kind of lodging. It's only fair I guess.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2298734]The main thing you need to be concerned about is trying not to fall in love with any of them. It'll be easy to get emotionally attached to a hot, young, and passionate paisa thatll do bbbj, bbfs, anal and anything you pretty much want . Best way for me is to have a bunch of them, so if I get too attached to one, I'll just fuck another one LOL. Trust me, if you do it right or halfway decent, you'll be planning a return trip before you even make it back home.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arcangel;2298850]... ATMs without fee for foreign cards in Colombia are Davivienda (common), Banco Caja Social (less common) and Banco Pichincha (are they even in Medellin? ...[/QUOTE]Last year I checked the Banco Caja Social on calle 10 in Poblado and they charged an ATM fee. Maybe they have changed. BBVA Bank does not charge an ATM fee.

This has been said many times before, but it's worth repeating because it's literally the best thing I did when I first read about it on this forum a few years back. Get a Charles Schawb checkings account that requires no minimum balance, they charge no ATM fees and reimburse any third party fees worldwide.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2299054]Last year I checked the Banco Caja Social on calle 10 in Poblado and they charged an ATM fee. Maybe they have changed. BBVA Bank does not charge an ATM fee.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2299079]This has been said many times before, but it's worth repeating because it's literally the best thing I did when I first read about it on this forum a few years back. Get a Charles Schawb checkings account that requires no minimum balance, they charge no ATM fees and reimburse any third party fees worldwide.[/QUOTE]I am thinking the Schwab "no fee" card is smoke and mirrors since they give a poor exchange rate. I have a Charles Schwab card that charges no ATM fees and reimburses any third party fees worldwide. I used it in Indonesia just recently. As a test, immediately following getting money with the Schwab card, I used my normal wells fargo bank ATM card that DOES charge fees. I then compared the total cash I received after all fees and exchange rates were taken into account. I was charged a 5 usd fee for using the Wells Fargo card. However, even though the two transactions were only seconds apart, I got a better rate using the Wells Fargo card. So, after the 5 usd fee, the amount of money I received was almost identical. The amount of the withdrawal in both cases was about 150 usd. At that amount, I saved about 50 cents using the Schwab card after fees and exchange rates were taken into account. Had I withdrawn 300 usd, the Wells Fargo withdrawal would have been a better deal.

Admittedly, this was only one test, but the results were interesting.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2299084]I am thinking the Schwab "no fee" card is smoke and mirrors since they give a poor exchange rate. I have a Charles Schwab card that charges no ATM fees and reimburses any third party fees worldwide. I used it in Indonesia just recently. As a test, immediately following getting money with the Schwab card, I used my normal wells fargo bank ATM card that DOES charge fees. I then compared the total cash I received after all fees and exchange rates were taken into account. I was charged a 5 usd fee for using the Wells Fargo card. However, even though the two transactions were only seconds apart, I got a better rate using the Wells Fargo card. So, after the 5 usd fee, the amount of money I received was almost identical. The amount of the withdrawal in both cases was about 150 usd. At that amount, I saved about 50 cents using the Schwab card after fees and exchange rates were taken into account. Had I withdrawn 300 usd, the Wells Fargo withdrawal would have been a better deal.

Admittedly, this was only one test, but the results were interesting.[/QUOTE]On my last MDE trip I used Davivienda exclusively, which doesn't have ATM fees. When I went back home and looked at my statement, I compared the amount I withdrew that day to the official exchange rate reported by Visa or Google for that day and the effective rate I received from Davividenda / Schwab is very very close to the official rate.

Example transaction, on Feb 7th I withdrew 320 k COP which is that Davividenda ATM's max amount, Schwab deducted 103.42 from my account. Visa's exchange rate calculator for that day reports 103.36. [URL]XE.com[/URL] reported 3110.78 USD to COP that day, which amounts to 102.86. Visa makes about 60 cents from that exchange, not that much.

Take a look at this website for an analysis of how Schwab does its conversion: [URL]https://moneymattersforglobetrotters.com/no-foreign-transaction-fee-or-exchange-rate-markup-account/[/URL].

Basically if Schwab and the ATM operator does not charge you fees, any difference must come from the interbank network. In your case, since you didn't mention that the ATM didn't charge fees, I'll assume it does. It's possible then that the ATM charges more fees for certain cards or the transaction went through different interbank networks.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2299084]I am thinking the Schwab "no fee" card is smoke and mirrors since they give a poor exchange rate. I have a Charles Schwab card that charges no ATM fees and reimburses any third party fees worldwide. I used it in Indonesia just recently. As a test, immediately following getting money with the Schwab card, I used my normal wells fargo bank ATM card that DOES charge fees. I then compared the total cash I received after all fees and exchange rates were taken into account. I was charged a 5 usd fee for using the Wells Fargo card. However, even though the two transactions were only seconds apart, I got a better rate using the Wells Fargo card. So, after the 5 usd fee, the amount of money I received was almost identical. The amount of the withdrawal in both cases was about 150 usd. At that amount, I saved about 50 cents using the Schwab card after fees and exchange rates were taken into account. Had I withdrawn 300 usd, the Wells Fargo withdrawal would have been a better deal.

Admittedly, this was only one test, but the results were interesting.[/QUOTE]Using the debit card is risky and not preferable in mongering countries. Why not purchase a pre paid visa card for $100 each and use at any ATM machines that are free.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299177]Using the debit card is risky and not preferable in mongering countries.[/QUOTE]Man what the heck are you talking about? How is using a debit card risky and what bearing does a place having widespread prostitution have to do with whether using a debit card is preferable or not? Come back to earth. Billions of people are using them all over the world. The main difference is where your card is from. My exgirlfriend in Bogota got her info stolen and the bank would not return her money. The times my info has been stolen, the US banks have always returned my money if by chance they did not detect it while it was being jacked.

[QUOTE=HeavyD24;2298867]
Wish I would've stayed longer but I had a great experience. I understand Spanish well and I speak a little Spanish so I felt like that kind of helped. I wish I was fluent. But I will be back April 26 to May 2nd. I wanted to try Conejitas and Bara executivos but the neighborhood was sketchy and I chickened out LOL I know there is a lot more spots I have to try as well until next time![/QUOTE]I live in NJ, USA, PM me and let me know your plans. Maybe I can join you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2299181]Man what the heck are you talking about? How is using a debit card risky and what bearing does a place having widespread prostitution have to do with whether using a debit card is preferable or not? Come back to earth. Billions of people are using them all over the world. The main difference is where your card is from. My exgirlfriend in Bogota got her info stolen and the bank would not return her money. The times my info has been stolen, the US banks have always returned my money if by chance they did not detect it while it was being jacked.[/QUOTE]I am always advised by the bank to use credit cards instead of debit cards in foreign countries. Because if your pin number get stolen and the money is debited out of your savings or checking the bank will not reimburse. Instead, most of credit cards are secured.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299203]I am always advised by the bank to use credit cards instead of debit cards in foreign countries. Because if your pin number get stolen and the money is debited out of your savings or checking the bank will not reimburse. Instead, most of credit cards are secured.[/QUOTE]One could of course just use the debit card to draw cash and use cash everywhere.

That way, you have privacy and your loss is capped at whatever you are carrying.

I have found there are real benefits to that. Agree with credit cards. I do use them.

And have the protection from my issuer and money back benefits. Never had fraud outside.

Of the country on my credit card. A few times in the US.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299203]I am always advised by the bank to use credit cards instead of debit cards in foreign countries. Because if your pin number get stolen and the money is debited out of your savings or checking the bank will not reimburse. Instead, most of credit cards are secured.[/QUOTE]Bull-shhit at purest level. I am not even sure whether you are just playing with us or you really believe that.

Your bank gives you a disinterested advice, right? Considered the difference in transaction fees between a debit card and a credit card, your bank really found its ideal customer, if you trust such a gross BS.

It is not just wrong by a financial standpoint, but even wrong versus logic.

1) If write your PIN with your credit card, and someone takes money from your credit card using its PIN, you will not be reimboursed. Period. Because you failed to practice normal measures of caution, like leaving a car with the keys on then claiming reimbourse from the insurance.

2) A credit card can be used without the PIN, by just showing it at the shop (where they do not care to check who is the owner) or online. A debit card CANNOT be used without its PIN. Therefore, the debit card is safer.

I am astonished, frankly.
By the way, whenever I am in the world, I use routinely both debit cards at ATMs to get local money, and credit cards to pay shops and service providers (no, not THAT service providers).

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299177]Using the debit card is risky and not preferable in mongering countries. Why not purchase a pre paid visa card for $100 each and use at any ATM machines that are free.[/QUOTE]
There's a simple answer: the commission fee. Are you an employee of Mastercard trying to revamp company business surreptitiously?

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299203]I am always advised by the bank to use credit cards instead of debit cards in foreign countries. Because if your pin number get stolen and the money is debited out of your savings or checking the bank will not reimburse. Instead, most of credit cards are secured.[/QUOTE]There are many reasons to use a credit card over a debit card. Only two reasons to use a debit card instead of a credit card.

1) You have poor credit and can't get a credit card.

2) You have no self control and will overspend on a credit card getting yourself into debt.

As for the advantages of a credit card over a debit card, here are a few.

[URL]https://www.fool.com/the-ascent/credit-cards/blog/4-reasons-you-should-stop-using-your-debit-card-right-now/[/URL]

I'm a points wh*re and am always signing up for new cards to get signup bonuses. Over the last 5 years I have gotten tens of thousands of dollars worth of business class flights mostly to and from Asia doing this. But that is a whole other topic even further off the topic of this forum.

Note this is for purchase transactions as in a store or restaurant. For ATM withdrawals use a debit card. Pretty much all credit cards will treat a ATM transaction as a cash advance and hit you with significant fees and interest charges.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2299177]Using the debit card is risky and not preferable in mongering countries. Why not purchase a pre paid visa card for $100 each and use at any ATM machines that are free.[/QUOTE]I've used my debit cards all over the world without a problem, what is wrong with using a debit card? To my knowledge prepaid cards purchased in the USA Do not work in a foreign country, if you know of one that does work please tell us all which one it is otherwise you are talking out of your ass.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2299226]Bull-shhit at purest level. I am not even sure whether you are just playing with us or you really believe that.

Your bank gives you a disinterested advice, right? Considered the difference in transaction fees between a debit card and a credit card, your bank really found its ideal customer, if you trust such a gross BS.

It is not just wrong by a financial standpoint, but even wrong versus logic.

1) If write your PIN with your credit card, and someone takes money from your credit card using its PIN, you will not be reimboursed. Period. Because you failed to practice normal measures of caution, like leaving a car with the keys on then claiming reimbourse from the insurance.

2) A credit card can be used without the PIN, by just showing it at the shop (where they do not care to check who is the owner) or online. A debit card CANNOT be used without its PIN. Therefore, the debit card is safer.

I am astonished, frankly.
By the way, whenever I am in the world, I use routinely both debit cards at ATMs to get local money, and credit cards to pay shops and service providers (no, not THAT service providers).


There's a simple answer: the commission fee. Are you an employee of Mastercard trying to revamp company business surreptitiously?[/QUOTE]LOL. All kinda of wrong info here. Unauthorized Credit / debit charges are covered by most if not all banks. I used to work for the compliance department at BOA and we would cover ALL unauthorized charges reported by cardholders. Read up on Regulation E, verbiage is included to cover writing your PIN on your card, you may be subject to a $50 or $500 liability (BOA has $0 liability). I've used my debit cards in Columbia multiple times in the past with no issues. If your card gets skimmed, call your bank ASAP to file a dispute, you should be reimbursed in ten biz days. Also, this only applies to US banks. I'm not sure of the procedure for other countries.

Debit cards are OK as long as you keep a close eye on your account. Unlike credit cards, if a debit card gets hacked the thief has direct access to your account funds. Most debit cards limit daily and per transaction withdrawal amounts which protects the cardholder. I avoid using debit cards for anything other than ATM withdrawals. Credit cards offer more protection but again, it's OK to use debit cards if you are careful. I haven't had problems the few times I've used debit cards in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2299250]I've used my debit cards all over the world without a problem, what is wrong with using a debit card? To my knowledge prepaid cards purchased in the USA Do not work in a foreign country, if you know of one that does work please tell us all which one it is otherwise you are talking out of your ass.[/QUOTE]

Same. I have the same experiences.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2299214]One could of course just use the debit card to draw cash and use cash everywhere.

That way, you have privacy and your loss is capped at whatever you are carrying.

I have found there are real benefits to that. Agree with credit cards. I do use them.

And have the protection from my issuer and money back benefits. Never had fraud outside.

Of the country on my credit card. A few times in the US.[/QUOTE]

There are lots of deals around like that. Credit unions, various banks, other brokerages. Schwab is popular here so go with them if you don't have time to shop around. I did and found that there are better deals available.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2299079]This has been said many times before, but it's worth repeating because it's literally the best thing I did when I first read about it on this forum a few years back. Get a Charles Schawb checkings account that requires no minimum balance, they charge no ATM fees and reimburse any third party fees worldwide.[/QUOTE]

I don't stay in Poblado, but I do stay in upscale apts in Laureles / Bello / Envigado neighborhoods with no door man, no hassle, and unlimited access to pussy LOL. I usually pay 150 mil plus taxi and get 2-3 hours with full on GFE and often times BBFS and anal with no upcharge. I treat the girls like queens, and I get the same in return.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2299040]Yeah, but 150 k for most is true for the facebook girls. Most are happy with 50 K if you aren't in a Poblado hotel or high end airbnb. You aren't going to get local rates in that kind of lodging. It's only fair I guess.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2299040]Most are happy with 50 K if you aren't in a Poblado hotel or high end airbnb. [/QUOTE]50 K sounds about right in terms of what I hear from the girls I know here. Often tourists start the negotiation by offering 150 k to 300 K and the girls aren't going to turn that down either LOL. Most visitors think in terms of their purchasing power in dollars back home instead of the local situation.

It's like a drinking game for me. Every time somebody on here says "back home it would have cost more" I want to take a shot.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2299359]50 K sounds about right in terms of what I hear from the girls I know here. Often tourists start the negotiation by offering 150 k to 300 K and the girls aren't going to turn that down either LOL. Most visitors think in terms of their purchasing power in dollars back home instead of the local situation.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2299359]50 K sounds about right in terms of what I hear from the girls I know here. Often tourists start the negotiation by offering 150 k to 300 K and the girls aren't going to turn that down either LOL. Most visitors think in terms of their purchasing power in dollars back home instead of the local situation.[/QUOTE]The problem is, most of the guys here are pulling from the pool of girls who have a lot of experience with gringos. Most of them know they don't have to go under 150 k, plus taxi, plus extra for anything the guy specifically requests.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2299359]50 K sounds about right in terms of what I hear from the girls I know here. Often tourists start the negotiation by offering 150 k to 300 K and the girls aren't going to turn that down either LOL. Most visitors think in terms of their purchasing power in dollars back home instead of the local situation.[/QUOTE]Which has always been the case unfortunately. This is how places get ruined. There is a World War story about military guys buying pussy in Italy. When they asked the ladies how much to fuck, the ladies would always hold up three fingers. So the guys would pay three dollars. Fucked up the market because the jackazzes did not know the 3 fingers actually meant 3 cents, not 3 dollars (as would have been a comparable price for back home.) Sounds just like the argument a couple of weeks ago about if the girl is meaning 150K pesos or $150 when she says 150.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2299412]This is how places get ruined. There is a World War story about military guys buying pussy in Italy. When they asked the ladies how much to fuck, the ladies would always hold up three fingers. So the guys would pay three dollars. Fucked up the market because the jackazzes did not know the 3 fingers actually meant 3 cents, not 3 dollars (as would have been a comparable price for back home.) .[/QUOTE]This is a great story. Throw on top of that the guys paying 3 dollars were probably bragging to their friends back home about how little they were paying LOL. Then those guys that heard about the 3 dollars back home came and started offering 5 dollars and a tip because they thought they could get better service than the 3 dollar guys that way and so on and so on.

What happened? This site looks like it was down for a few days, no reports since the 17th, anyone know.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2299482]What happened? This site looks like it was down for a few days, no reports since the 17th, anyone know.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was down.

Pm me if interested in meeting for drinks.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2299482]What happened? This site looks like it was down for a few days, no reports since the 17th, anyone know.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yup, site was down unfortunately.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2299482]What happened? This site looks like it was down for a few days, no reports since the 17th, anyone know.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]If memory serves me correctly, server crashed but admin said they would replace it with something better to avoid repeat.

First day Medellin.

Back in Medellin for the Second time after about a three-years I think. Came here with two first time Medellin wingmen. Both my wingmen are Dominican republic regulars. Because Cuba was still going to their adjustments we decided to head to Medellin.

Arriving in the airport, we immediately started missing the DR. I know when I arrive in the Dominican Republic, before I leave the airport, I see about 10-15 dime pieces I would love to take home right then.

This was not the case in Medellin. The airport is not full of sexy Chicas. Normally in the DR, driving away from the airport; I would have seen doable every day chicas that got my hormones activated. Medellin just wasn't doing it for me however, I wanted to give it a fair chance.

We decided after much homework to use our Uber driver to ride this around to different hotels that were available to us upon arrival. The Uber driver took us directly to Torrres. He told us it was a good hotel and they won't have a problem with us bringing in girls.

My alarm went off because I remember reading about this hotel through several reports. Uber driver was in a rush and quickly drop us off saying he had more request for rides. That shocked me because I told him we would pay him extra if he take us to several different hotels. I guess he did not want to tip.

The hotel was asking about $65 US a night in Colombian pesos. I thought that was ok but knew if we look a little we can find another hotel in the area. That didn't charge extra.

We settled with Hotel Parque Plaza. About $47 Per night. I made sure at the front desk There would not be any extra with bringing Chicos with ID.

Our rooms were simple but clean. It was in the ideal spot right on the corner of poblado park. I normally deal with Airbnb but I it was difficult trying to accommodate three people. A lot of places requested in very high security deposit. More than the amount of travel money I was planning bringing. Besides I knew my wingmen and Everyone needed their own privacy.

Initially hitting the scene I wasn't impressed. The chicas are pretty here but in my opinion the DR has much more quantity of raw camel toe talent. After about my first four hours in Medellin I was missing the DR.

We recruited an Uber driver for 50000 pesos to show us around. I thought damn that is was cheap for him to ride around. He took us to Centro right to the strip club that DC Fan took me to years ago. My wings were ready for action however none of the chicas move me. I just wasn't impressed. None of the silicone enhance Chicas made me feel like I had to have them.

I knew the enhancement were going to be a problem but I thought I could work around it. My wingmen and I had to admit; had we been in the DR we would have been on our second session by now. However the chicas were entertaining but I got irritated of the dancers walking around asking for a tip every five minutes. Some of the girls were doubling back.

Both of wingmen love the looks and bodies on these chicas. One did a session with a stripper for 100,000 pesos in house. He said the session was excellent. I realized I'm just going to have to make the adjustment for the sake of mongering.

We left that area and went to a place called Girls club. The place was a high end strip club. Its price 190000 pesos Plus whatever you negotiate with the chica to take her home. Or you can pay 300,000 upfront and have sex with the Chica on premises. There were some nice chicas in there. I definitely seen some dimes. But to pay about $50 just to take the girls home and then negotiate on the price for her was just too much for me.

I ordered chicken wings and bought a girl a margarita. I later brought the Uber driver a corona. My bill was 80,000 ($25 US) pesos. I like the organization. The bartender always double check to make sure it was cool to add any drinks that I did not tell him.

One of my wing man who is very particular Found something that Caught his attention. He paid the 190000 peso exit fee and agreed to pay $230000 to the chica. About $135 US. That was pricey for me however I was happy because he found something he wanted. He is very choosy.

As for me I decided just go back to my room and check the SW in the area. When we arrive back to the room it was raining and there was no action anywhere. Oh well I guess I will take an L. This is my first night in Medellin on a Friday and I no session. Thats if you don't count Mary Jane.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2299412]Sounds just like the argument a couple of weeks ago about if the girl is meaning 150K pesos or $150 when she says 150.[/QUOTE]Reminds me of when I was in Beijing. I asked an extremely beautiful girl in Maggie's bar "how much" and she replied 200. I readily accepted and we went back to my room and had great sex. After we finished, I gave her 200 RMB (about 30 USD). She then asked me if I was crazy and told me it was 200 USD, not 200 RMB. I told her that since we are in China, if she wanted 200 USD, she had better specify the currency because I assumed the local currency. I did not have more than 200 rmb on me, so that is what she walked out of there with.

I was staying at the Great Wall Sheraton, and the next night I was in the bar there called Passions (supposedly the most expensive pick up bar in China). Perhaps the hottest girl I had ever seen walks across the place and directly over to me. She asks me if I want to dance and I say sure. But she then tells me I have to pay her to dance with me so I tell her to forget it. But I would like to have sex with her, so I asked her how much to go to my room for sex for an hour. Her reply was 750 US Dollars. Suffice it to say, she did not go to my room. I did at least appreciate her specifying the currency. I would have given that girl 750 RMB. Not that she was 4 times hotter than the girl from Maggie's, but she was worth the 100 or so USD that would have been.

In my opinion, if a girl in a foreign country is wanting USD and they don't specify USD, that's their own fault.

Can anyone recommend a reputable Plan ‘B’ type pill in Medellin? I've heard about PostDay 1. Got to be safe than sorry.

The next day my wing man reported that the chica was terrible. She tried to up charge him once they arrive in the room. She change the amount to 750,000 pesos and wanted the money upfront. I had to come in and straighten it out. After that he said the sex was just horrible.

Later that evening I was itching for a session. I missed the DR we're I can just make a call, post In the park, or walk the block opportunity is everywhere. Our driver took us to phase 2. I kind a like this strip club. There were other Americans in there as well. Apparently this place is popular. The chicas in there ranged from 6 to 9. There were maybe about 20 on hand. The price was 190,000 pesos One hour session on site.

I overheard an America saying; I've been to the DR before however this set up isn't like this. I had to agree. The vibe was relaxing. The women were not over aggressive. There were plenty to go around. I also like the girls dancing on stage. They are really showing their possible bedroom skills up there.

Of course the tip request was irritating. I didn't want to seem cheap but don't interrupt me for a tip when you see me talk to someone. The dancing sometime it was mediocre.

Then I saw her. She was one of the darkest chicas in the club. I noticed a lot of the other chicas playfully danced on her during the music. She had a muscular body frame. You could tell she was all natural. That is except for the perfect six pack. IMO That couldn't be natural. She was about 57 and 145 pounds. She had a beautiful golden brown skin.

These chicas aren't constantly looking to see who is giving them eye contact. In the DR you better have your shades on because if a chica thinks for a second you are looking her way; she will pick it up instantly. However I like this laid back approach. It gives me time to study her without her knowing.

OK time for the interview. I could tell she wasn't a spring chicken yet she was still pretty. She said she was 31 and all natural. I asked her can I get a BBBJ. She said if I want. We had a good vide.

The rooms are on site were just right to get the job done. On our way to the room she told me I need 6000 pesos for a condom. I told her I have my own. She insisted I had to pay. I'm not paying for condoms I'm not using. I don't care if it's 500 pesos.

Of course I got my way and we went into the room. She took off her bra and said her breast were small. I told her that I knew but that's why I wanted her. Then I begin to kiss on them as if they were on Dolly Parton. She reached and put some lube on my index finger. She wanted me to play with her while she gave me BBBJ. She teased it, licked it, and my balls. But she really did not suck until the condom was on. But she had me ready.

Her body was just right for me. I loved her athletic tone. She danced around naked telling me she's all natural. She had a nice phat ass. It appeared natural because its nice not perfect; but you can never tell in Colombia.

She started off cowgirl. She wasn't too tight but had a bite. Her athleticism and youth took over. She was giving me a damn good ride. After about 10 minutes she came all over my pelvis. Wow.

I grab her hips and told her don't stop. Si Darme mas mami darme mas. Yes give me more mommy give me more. She gave me another shower. She spread eagle and let me ground and pound. Switch to doggy style. Then I picked her up and carried her in the air. We never missed a stroke. We finished back in a ground and pound position. Excellent! Minus the BBBJ Her performance was in the top 10 of my life. Body 8 3/4 performance 9.

I pulled out 6000 pesos for a tip. Then added 20,000 with that. We exchange numbers. I was Good for the rest of the night unless something really peep my interest.

Got back to the hotel and the weather was much better than the night before. Walked around the problado area near the park. There were some very nice looking chicas. Once again I have to respect Colombia for its variety.

Although I saw some beautiful chicas; I did not choose one from the park area. They seem a bit too routined. I felt like I am too experience to not follow my gut. I need to see a chica with killer in her eyes. Both of my wingmen pulled nice looking chicas. The silicone breast and butt enhancements didn't fade them. If they didn't know I was going to ruin it for them.

One of my wing man reported again a terrible service. I'm starting to feel sorry for him.

My other wingman came beating on my door at 3:30. He said while the was walking with his chica a person came by him and grab his crouch and at the same time stole his phone. He said the movement caught him off guard. When he asked his chica was that a dude he realized his phone was missing. The story was strange because my man is about 260 and all muscles. The last person anyone would want to try. No one believes him. His guy looks like the Hulk. Even the Uber driver said BS!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299584]First day Medellin.

Arriving in the airport, we immediately started missing the DR.

We decided after much homework to use our Uber driver to ride this around to different hotels that were available to us upon arrival. The Uber driver took us directly to Torrres. He told us it was a good hotel and they won't have a problem with us bringing in girls.

Initially hitting the scene I wasn't impressed.

We recruited an Uber driver for 50000 pesos to show us around. I thought damn that is was cheap for him to ride around.He took us to Centro right to the strip club that DC Fan took me to years ago. My wings were ready for action however none of the chicas move me. I just wasn't impressed.

My wingmen and I had to admit; had we been in the DR we would have been on our second session by now.

I realized I'm just going to have to make the adjustment for the sake of mongering.

[/QUOTE]Negative thoughts right out of the airport. Carries throughout your trip. "missing DR", "not impressed", "if we had been in the DR. ", "not impressed", "adjust for the sake of mongering". Sorry the problem I see is you. You need to give any place a minimum of 3 days just to get your bearings.

Three of you guys with so called experience and "after much homework" as you say should have had at least the first 2 nights reserved before you entered the country. Not easy to get 3 rooms at the same hotel in the right location by driving around.

"The Uber driver took you to. " I would be telling the taxi where to take me and never take his lead or recommendations. It screams newbie to me and surely to the taxi driver too.

"he too us to Centro. " Again it sounds as if you let the taxi driver dictate where you were going.

You friend being big is only part of the equation. If he looked and acted like a tourist and had a submissive aura about him then his size meant little. Example, walking up and petting a Saint Bernard versus a Pit Bull is vastly different even though the Saint Bernard is twice a Pit Bulls size. I am the size of a chihuahua but I carry myself as if I have been at the location many times and belong there. I rarely get messed with. But I was once with a street girl in a Mindanao Muslim area in the Philippines. She grabbed my nuts and my back pocket at the same time. My nuts have 1000 more times more nerves than my ass. I never felt my ass but I knew what she did. Sure enough she got the 100 pisos ($2) out of my back pocket. I believe your buddy. Your buddy is not going to attack some local person for grabbing his junk. Only after the fact will your buddy realize he has been robbed and the robber knows if not caught that very second he is free and clear.

Basically, I get the feeling you all were beating yourselves up missing the DR so did not have your 'Game Faces' on. I sense this in your writing and I am sure it was worse in person so the locals sensed it too. Three of you seem lost having a taxi driver 'lead the way finding a hotel and go to the most touristy bars'.

The last day we decided to change the area and go to Centro. We went to Hotel Normandia. 50000 peso ($16 US) per night. I chose this place because of the two Strip club right on the outside. I figured all else fails we can grab a chica from one. The price was 100000-150000 and 20000 pesos exit fee. About $55 US.

It took me about three hours until I finally zeroed in on someone. Tried to contact the chica from yesterday but she told me she would be gone on Sunday. About 5,5 135 pounds Morena with braces and a gorgeous smile. We agreed on 100000 pesos. I then negotiated for my partner who found a mid 30's silicone butt brownskin chica. Surprise me I've never seen him actually pick a chica that dark. They told us we didn't have to pay an exit fee.

Once again I had a very good session. My choice was all natural with braces. Once again I had a squirter. Yes that 2 first time sex encounters and I got waterfalls! Looks 8 1/2 performance 8 1/2. I gave her 100000 and a dress.

I notice after the session she hung around the round the room like she didn't want to leave. I gave her the exit fee. She just laid on the bed rubbing my back. I was really ready for her to go. She didn't smoke so I needed to leave so I could. She went prancing around the room so I asked her for more thinking to myself it doesn't matter if she says no. She slow Pulled down her skirt and assumed doggie.

Man did I get some stress off me. I gave her an extra 50000 pesos and some body spray for round 2.

Just as I remember a few years back. Overall the Colombia chicas consistently give me better performances. I also remember a few years back three days in Medellin is enough for me. However, I can see myself giving Medellin another chance maybe about 4 to 5 months. Next time I will be by myself so I can really move the way I'm accustom to.

And even though I didn't have fun like my second trip to the DR or to Cuba I do see the potential.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2299854]Negative thoughts right out of the airport. Carries throughout your trip. "missing DR", "not impressed", "if we had been in the DR. ", "not impressed", "adjust for the sake of mongering". Sorry the problem I see is you. You need to give any place a minimum of 3 days just to get your bearings.
'.[/QUOTE]Ha ha ha it's been so long since it's sounds like I'm being criticized for my trip report; I forgot how sensitive and offensive I can get. Fear not I've been here long enough to get past that. Why the old me would have just told you, mr. The problem is not me it's You! You think I'm trying to give a trip report to impress You?! Who are You to tell me how long I need to get my bearings. Then maybe an argument I will pursue all for the lack of un attentional disrespect.

This board has matured me a little. I'll take the resonds with a grain of salt and no intentional offensive. Besides I just smoked a fat one and I respect the fact that you made a comment.

For the sake of my two friends, who wanted to be in a particulate safe area, me trying to quarterback our accommodation Took a lot of homework. Normally I Airbnb, many places do not allow or charged Per extra guest. Or the rooms were too small. Or the deposit was too high. It's like a Lotta homework and I just gave up. We will just get our motel when we get there. We can afford whatever wanted for 3 days but a bad decision.

You are a little right about our Uber driver. He was from Bogotá. He knew his way around Medellin well but wasn't too familiar with the smaller Casas. He asked if we wanted to go to the museum or a small place outside of Medellin. He didn't understand we were there for strictly mongering. That's kind of why I chose him. That and his English. I did not have to be the constant Chica interpreter for the three of us. That was worth $25 a day.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299877]

Once again I had a very good session. My choice was all natural with braces. Once again I had a squirter. Yes that 2 first time sex encounters and I got waterfalls! Looks 8 1/2 performance 8 1/2. I gave her 100000 and a dress.
.[/QUOTE]This is the the Chica.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299895]This is the the Chica.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your report. Would you mind sharing the name of the club you picked her up at? Or if you're feeling generous and have her WhatsApp that would be even better. LOL. I'll settle for a club name or address. Thanks in advance.

The thing that gave me pause was that you started regretting the trip the moment you got off the plane because the chicas in the DR airports were in more abundance than Medellin. Like, WTF! Not to mention, "wingmen" seems like a ridiculous concept. But that's just me.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2299902]The thing that gave me pause was that you started regretting the trip the moment you got off the plane because the chicas in the DR airports were in more abundance than Medellin. Like, WTF! Not to mention, "wingmen" seems like a ridiculous concept. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Have you ever been to the airport in the DR. SDQ AND STI are just fill with beautiful young women working there. One of my favorite experiences is walking through the DR airport with my friends for their first time. The scenery is entertaining and stimulating at the least.

I did not go to Medellin to criticize it. I've heard so many good things about the place that I decided to give it another chance. Yes there was apprehension. Gogo changed his mind about going he just wasn't excited. He's been there before. He had just gotten back from Thailand and the first thing he did was ran to the DR. Gogo is the planner. Mr. E got a hair up his ass when I told him I was looking at staying in the Poblado area.
I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded. Its all good. Shout out to JjBee62. Thank you for keeping it 100. I show my respects to you and newbies by posting my report. I'm just giving my honest opinion of how I felt and what I observed. Everyone else opinions all good.

Yeah man, be careful of that. I know many girls purposely mis-quote prices, 150 k pesos ($50 USD) or 150 USD? Cause a big scene, threaten to call police who are usually in on the scam, and a guy will basically pay anything just to keep the peace, avoid looking like a cheap-charlie, blackmail or jail threats.

I have a strong suspicion that this is what happened to Obama's Secret Service security detail in 2012.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2299630]Reminds me of when I was in Beijing. I asked an extremely beautiful girl in Maggie's bar "how much" and she replied 200. I readily accepted and we went back to my room and had great sex. After we finished, I gave her 200 RMB (about 30 USD). She then asked me if I was crazy and told me it was 200 USD, not 200 RMB. I told her that since we are in China, if she wanted 200 USD, she had better specify the currency because I assumed the local currency. I did not have more than 200 rmb on me, so that is what she walked out of there with.

I was staying at the Great Wall Sheraton, and the next night I was in the bar there called Passions (supposedly the most expensive pick up bar in China). Perhaps the hottest girl I had ever seen walks across the place and directly over to me. She asks me if I want to dance and I say sure. But she then tells me I have to pay her to dance with me so I tell her to forget it. But I would like to have sex with her, so I asked her how much to go to my room for sex for an hour. Her reply was 750 US Dollars. Suffice it to say, she did not go to my room. I did at least appreciate her specifying the currency. I would have given that girl 750 RMB. Not that she was 4 times hotter than the girl from Maggie's, but she was worth the 100 or so USD that would have been.

In my opinion, if a girl in a foreign country is wanting USD and they don't specify USD, that's their own fault.[/QUOTE]

The Dominican Republic is closer to the US than Medellin, you can always stop there and not come to Medellin. With that said, I'm in Colombia for a 21 day stretch, I'm still having my way with the girls in Centro, by the way, don't always post pics from their facebook page or the ones they send you, take a few yourself and post. My philosophy for mongering is, find'them, F*ck'them, Film'them, & Forget'them, but hey what does a black chicken know? Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912]Have you ever been to the airport in the DR. SDQ AND STI are just fill with beautiful young women working there. One of my favorite experiences is walking through the DR airport with my friends for their first time. The scenery is entertaining and stimulating at the least.

I did not go to Medellin to criticize it. I've heard so many good things about the place that I decided to give it another chance. Yes there was apprehension. Gogo changed his mind about going he just wasn't excited. He's been there before. He had just gotten back from Thailand and the first thing he did was ran to the DR. Gogo is the planner. Mr. E got a hair up his ass when I told him I was looking at staying in the Poblado area.
I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded. Its all good. Shout out to JjBee62. Thank you for keeping it 100. I show my respects to you and newbies by posting my report. I'm just giving my honest opinion of how I felt and what I observed. Everyone else opinions all good.[/QUOTE]With someone telling you the truth, I love centro, I want no parts of Poblado. You're being charged for being a foreigner only to travel to centro to look for girls. Poblado will never get a dime of my money not one red penny. But hey, to each their own. Pollo negro is out!

And I'm on a 21 day vacation, and its been so much DR chatter on the Medellin thread, let me ask, why are the tickets more expensive to Puerta Plata than they are to Medellin? I have a theory and its just a Theory. The DR has more Afro Latina chicas there in a higher concentration than most other Latin destinations, who desires a darker chica? Those who are not accustomed to having their way with the darker chics in the US or Europe? To my knowledge it takes more gas to travel further than it does a shorter distance, so why would the shorter distance cost more? Cause those who can't get the darker chicas are willing to pay more, that's just a Theory. I often get mistaken for being Dominican but I am Puerto Rican til the death of me. Medellin has been nothing but good to me! Why come to Medellin and wish you were in the DR. Further more the ticket is less than $200 to fulfill your dream. I'll never visit DR as long as the tickets cost more to travel there than Medellin and there is closer to the states than Medellin. Don't mind me, I got 3 chicas from centro blowing me as I write this post, I'll holla. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912]Have you ever been to the airport in the DR. SDQ AND STI are just fill with beautiful young women working there. One of my favorite experiences is walking through the DR airport with my friends for their first time. The scenery is entertaining and stimulating at the least.

I did not go to Medellin to criticize it. I've heard so many good things about the place that I decided to give it another chance. Yes there was apprehension. Gogo changed his mind about going he just wasn't excited. He's been there before. He had just gotten back from Thailand and the first thing he did was ran to the DR. Gogo is the planner. Mr. E got a hair up his ass when I told him I was looking at staying in the Poblado area.
I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded. Its all good. Shout out to JjBee62. Thank you for keeping it 100. I show my respects to you and newbies by posting my report. I'm just giving my honest opinion of how I felt and what I observed. Everyone else opinions all good.[/QUOTE]The 1 time I flew into SDQ I had an interesting flight. Flight was less than half full and a pretty Dominicana was sitting in front of me with her little girl, about 5 years old. Big, curvy girl, nice look, but too thick for my taste. While waiting to take off she was taking selfies, pushing her tits up til half the nipples were showing and sending them to someone on WhatsApp. I'm sitting right behind, watching her phone screen.

We get about 30 minutes away from SDQ, her kid's asleep and she's got her shorts unbuttoned, her hand inside and she's rubbing one out. She goes at it for about 15 minutes and I'm just enjoying the show.

I understand what you went through. You needed to make the adjustment. Your brain was programmed for the DR. You got over it and finished strong. A lot of guys never figure it out and waste the whole trip trying to find Costa Rica or the DR in Medellin. Personally I like Medellin better. The girls aren't as pushy, and grabby, but they make great eye contact. Even the ones who aren't working will smile and say Hello, if you talk to them.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912]Have you ever been to the airport in the DR. SDQ AND STI are just fill with beautiful young women working there. One of my favorite experiences is walking through the DR airport with my friends for their first time. The scenery is entertaining and stimulating at the least.

I did not go to Medellin to criticize it. I've heard so many good things about the place that I decided to give it another chance. Yes there was apprehension. Gogo changed his mind about going he just wasn't excited. He's been there before. He had just gotten back from Thailand and the first thing he did was ran to the DR. Gogo is the planner. Mr. E got a hair up his ass when I told him I was looking at staying in the Poblado area.
I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded. Its all good. Shout out to JjBee62. Thank you for keeping it 100. I show my respects to you and newbies by posting my report. I'm just giving my honest opinion of how I felt and what I observed. Everyone else opinions all good.[/QUOTE]Yes I know what you mean bro but I think you should give MDE another try. Maybe start at the mansion for a few days and then warm your way up from there. Definitely get a place before landing. Maybe Normandia for the first two days and then finish off in Poblado? I also think you should have given a lot more chances to the casas. They can be really good for finding hidden gems. God knows how extensive Wolf's list is!

That screenshot did crack me up! As if staying where the "poor" people are somehow made you a better person. The only way this works if you were doing it to help them, not fuck their freshly arrived 18-year old paisas!

But oh well I can now say I've seen grandstanding in a monger forum. I mean who comes here to get the moral high ground. ?

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912]Mr. E got a hair up his ass when I told him I was looking at staying in the Poblado area.[/QUOTE]LOL. Exactly. And look what happened when y'all asses moved to downtown. Better and cheaper chica experiences. Plus didn't get robbed downtown, but got robbed in the Poblado area. Oh the irony!

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2299854]You need to give any place a minimum of 3 days just to get your bearings.[/QUOTE]Damn. I hardly ever stay anywhere for 3 days unless I am scuba diving and need that extra day on the back end to get the nitrogen out of my system. It only takes 5 minutes to hop in a taxi and say take me to the women (preferably the cheap ones). No bearings needed.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2299854]But I was once with a street girl in a Mindanao Muslim area in the Philippines. She grabbed my nuts and my back pocket at the same time. My nuts have 1000 more times more nerves than my ass. I never felt my ass but I knew what she did. Sure enough she got the 100 pisos ($2) out of my back pocket.[/QUOTE]If I am not in the USA then I never have anything in a back pocket, unless it is a sweat rag. I keep my money and ID and my cell phone in my front pockets (no big ass wallets; you are not back home), and when I am walking in the street, my hands generally always stay in my pockets. It is just second nature to me.

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2300020]That screenshot did crack me up! As if staying where the "poor" people are somehow made you a better person. The only way this works if you were doing it to help them, not fuck their freshly arrived 18-year old paisas![/QUOTE]Hey. Maybe it is saying that I can't afford to stay another place. I was not saying it makes me a better person. I am saying that it is way cheaper to stay downtown and that is where I hang out anyway. So why would I pay 6 or 7 times the price to stay somewhere else then commute to where all the fun is? Last month I was in Medellin for 4 days. When I went to check out the total bill was 140,000 pesos ($45). Probably could not find a Poblado place for 1 day for what I spent for 4.

I have been to Poblado a grand total of 3 times for only a couple of hours each time. There is no reason for me to be in Poblado. First time I went because that is where the Pablo Escobar tour left from. Second time I went to show it to a buddy whose first time it was in Medellin. Third time I went I reported on last month when I was with a chick and dropped her off at the bar she works at there and I decided to walk over to Gusto's after leaving her bar. Think I was there one more time at Hooters with Advantageous and some other friends watching a football game a few years back.

I have to say for me the casas are where it's at. Also I went with a big group of friends. There was about 18 of us there. Most of the group stayed in Poblado area particularly Parque Lleras. I split an Airbnb with 3 of my friends. I think fucked one street walker my first night. Then I fucked one freelancer referred to me by a friend towards the end of the trip. Otherwise I did all my fucking at casas and strip clubs. I also took a day and walked around the city after a morning casa session at a place close to new life. I think I walked around for 3 hours and had lunch then caught the train back to Poblado. After being in both areas and looking at prices for hotels and taking into consideration the way I roll, I think I share Mr. E's sentiments. I would rather stay downtown in walking distance to all the cool local stuff and casas. I understand it's different strokes for different folks.

At Mr. E wondering if you could recommend a few hotels or places that you like stay at. Or if you don't do hotels what do you use? Airbnb / VRBO / flipkey etc. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. After my first trip last week I am hooked. Can't wait to get my ass back there. I have trip in the beginning of May to San Jose kind of wishing I wouldn't have booked it and just waited until after I experienced Medellin. Most likely I'll be there in June.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2299992]And I'm on a 21 day vacation, and its been so much DR chatter on the Medellin thread, let me ask, why are the tickets more expensive to Puerta Plata than they are to Medellin? [/QUOTE]The price of jet fuel and the landing fees are higher. Keep in mind that most airports in the DR, POP included, are privately owned and charge the airlines whatever they want to.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2300131]The price of jet fuel and the landing fees are higher. Keep in mind that most airports in the DR, POP included, are privately owned and charge the airlines whatever they want to.[/QUOTE]Show me that detailed information from a peer reviewed article, because you mean to tell me, that gas is higher at a closer distance than gas for at a longer distance. This is where you lose me. You mean to tell me, I should pay $500 in gas fees to travel 250 miles on a private road, but I can pay $250 to travel 500 miles on a public road, ain't that hard my friend, no need for me to be playing in the DR, I hope this explanation sums up my theory in a nutshell. Makes no sense at all to me, but its your money buddy! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=PoonyD;2300071]Also I went with a big group of friends. There was about 18 of us there. Can't wait to get my ass back there. [/QUOTE]Were you with that big crew of Sosua mongers?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2299992]Why come to Medellin and wish you were in the DR. Further more the ticket is less than $200 to fulfill your dream. I'll never visit DR as long as the tickets cost more to travel there than Medellin and there is closer to the states than Medellin. [/QUOTE]Too funny. Don't be surprised if flight prices to Medellin noticeably increase relative to the DR in the next year or 2.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2300145]Show me that detailed information from a peer reviewed article, because you mean to tell me, that gas is higher at a closer distance than gas for at a longer distance. This is where you lose me. You mean to tell me, I should pay $500 in gas fees to travel 250 miles on a private road, but I can pay $250 to travel 500 miles on a public road, ain't that hard my friend, no need for me to be playing in the DR, I hope this explanation sums up my theory in a nutshell. Makes no sense at all to me, but its your money buddy! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Peer reviewed article? GTFOOHWTBS, I know someone that works at the airport as an engineer that also owns his own plane that goes to all of the airports in the DR, he knows what he is talking about. It is a fact that POP airport charges outrageous prices for their jet fuel, it is your choice whether to believe me or not, I could give a rat's ass, please do us all a favor and stay out of the DR.

Clearly DR is way better than Medellin and well worth the extra in airfare. Please, everybody, go to DR and leave crappy Medellin to me.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2300214]Peer reviewed article? GTFOOHWTBS, I know someone that works at the airport as an engineer that also owns his own plane that goes to all of the airports in the DR, he knows what he is talking about. It is a fact that POP airport charges outrageous prices for their jet fuel, it is your choice whether to believe me or not, I could give a rat's ass, please do us all a favor and stay out of the DR.[/QUOTE]Say, I got a friend of a friend, GTFOH. All talk no proof and you are still on the Medellin thread wishing you were in the DR. Here's a clue, Make like a Rash. And breakout! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2300145]Show me that detailed information from a peer reviewed article, because you mean to tell me, that gas is higher at a closer distance than gas for at a longer distance.[/QUOTE]Fuel always costs more on an island. The DR has some of the highest taxes in the world for using their airports. Most places you only have to pay coming in or leaving out, but DR gets you coming in AND leaving out. There is less supply/seats in and out of Puerto Plata, therefore the tickets cost more. Most people that live in the area or are from the area will fly in and out of Santiago for cheaper tickets.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2299989]With someone telling you the truth, I love centro, I want no parts of Poblado. You're being charged for being a foreigner only to travel to centro to look for girls. Poblado will never get a dime of my money not one red penny. But hey, to each their own. Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Poblado gets 2 or 3 cents of every dime you spend in El Centro. You don't think all that money is ending up in El Centro, do you?

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2300145]Show me that detailed information from a peer reviewed article, because you mean to tell me, that gas is higher at a closer distance than gas for at a longer distance. This is where you lose me. You mean to tell me, I should pay $500 in gas fees to travel 250 miles on a private road, but I can pay $250 to travel 500 miles on a public road, ain't that hard my friend, no need for me to be playing in the DR, I hope this explanation sums up my theory in a nutshell. Makes no sense at all to me, but its your money buddy! Pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Ticket prices.

From EWR in Newark to MDE $502.

From EWR in Newark to SDQ $305 ($217 on Spirit).

From MIA to MDE $359.

From MIA to SDQ $379.

From ORD Chicago to MDE $540.

From ORD Chicago to SDQ $457.

Maybe you need a new nutshell. If you're on a budget it makes no sense to fly to Puerta Plata. It's cheaper to fly to Santo Domingo, from there the bus is about $10 to Puerta Plata and it's a comfortable and interesting ride. About the same price to Sosua. Or you have Boca Chica much closer.

I am really surprised no one mentioned the much lower cost of everything in Colombia compared to the Dominican Republic. It is more than enough to cover a $200 to $300 higher priced airfare.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2300192]Too funny. Don't be surprised if flight prices to Medellin noticeably increase relative to the DR in the next year or 2.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2300255]Ticket prices.

From EWR in Newark to MDE $502.

From EWR in Newark to SDQ $305 ($217 on Spirit).

From MIA to MDE $359.

From MIA to SDQ $379.

From ORD Chicago to MDE $540.

From ORD Chicago to SDQ $457.

Maybe you need a new nutshell. If you're on a budget it makes no sense to fly to Puerta Plata. It's cheaper to fly to Santo Domingo, from there the bus is about $10 to Puerta Plata and it's a comfortable and interesting ride. About the same price to Sosua. Or you have Boca Chica much closer.[/QUOTE]I'm the last BM to run out of that anytime soon, because a fool and his money shall soon part, no one, no one, I mean no one knows that better than you JjBee62. It was you who were broken and sent home penniless by them Colombian chicas. I'm way to crafty and financially Swift to play games with my money. I'm never on a budget and if push comes to shove, I most definitely keep enough pesos to get back to America, even if I have to charter a flight. With that being said, I changed two 18 year old chicas from Veracruz today, wowzers, I can still feel the fuzz on their buzz. Photo'd, filmed, fcked, and Forgotten, the quest continues tomorrow, I'm in Bogota next week, wish you were joining me, but the way your budget set up. Nevermind, Centro is a lovely destination, Pollo Negro is out!

I was just in Boca Chica, waste of time. Nothing special, girls are not good looking at all. 5-6 rating at best. Beach is nice, but that is it. There is a nice bar within a casino in Santo Domingo, but that is it. Medellín and Bogota is way better.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2300255]Ticket prices.

From EWR in Newark to MDE $502.

From EWR in Newark to SDQ $305 ($217 on Spirit).

From MIA to MDE $359.

From MIA to SDQ $379.

From ORD Chicago to MDE $540.

From ORD Chicago to SDQ $457.

Maybe you need a new nutshell. If you're on a budget it makes no sense to fly to Puerta Plata. It's cheaper to fly to Santo Domingo, from there the bus is about $10 to Puerta Plata and it's a comfortable and interesting ride. About the same price to Sosua. Or you have Boca Chica much closer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2299896]Thanks for sharing your report. Would you mind sharing the name of the club you picked her up at? Or if you're feeling generous and have her WhatsApp that would be even better. LOL. I'll settle for a club name or address. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry I don't know the name. It's outside of Hotel Normandia.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2300320]I was just in Boca Chica, waste of time. Nothing special, girls are not good looking at all. 5-6 rating at best. Beach is nice, but that is it. There is a nice bar within a casino in Santo Domingo, but that is it. Medelln and Bogota is way better.[/QUOTE]I just know all them Dominicans are much prettier and more available than these big booty Colombians. Don't type it in the open that Boca Chica is a waste of time. We have a few Board Members who swear by the DR, even in our Medellin thread. LOL, Pollo negro is out!

To each his own. I prefer the mongering in Medellin. I like the beach in Sosua. I prefer the accomodation in Poblado. I prefer the mongering in Centro. Its all a matter of taste.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2300436]To each his own. I prefer the mongering in Medellin. I like the beach in Sosua. I prefer the accomodation in Poblado. I prefer the mongering in Centro. Its all a matter of taste.[/QUOTE]Simple explanation to achieve what each person may want! Pollo negro is out!

It's all about having options. Do what works best for you. Brazil, Thailand, Philippines, DR, Colombia, Costa Rica, Mexico and so on. Each place has it's advantages.

In Medellin, there is something for everyone. Online, Lleras, centro, etc.

As long as you have fun is all that matters. Don't worry about others. Some people like a basic budget experience and others want to have a hottub 4some overlooking the city.

Whatever works for you [URL]https://youtu.be/tABEJmGO35c[/URL].

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2300181]Were you with that big crew of Sosua mongers?[/QUOTE]Yeah. I was.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2300320]I was just in Boca Chica, waste of time. Nothing special, girls are not good looking at all. 5-6 rating at best. Beach is nice, but that is it. There is a nice bar within a casino in Santo Domingo, but that is it. Medelln and Bogota is way better.[/QUOTE]I can definitely see someone having a problem in Boca Chica. Boca Chica is Haitian Central. You'll be hard-pressed and / or unimpressed if you are used to the variety of Medellin. I wouldn't suggest BC. Santo Domingo Santiago Puerto Plata San Pedro or Punta Cana all would be better to suggestion. However Medellin is more organized And professional.
Its funny I have yet to see someone using a stripper pole in the DR.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300456]I have yet to see someone using a stripper pole in the DR.[/QUOTE]In Sosua's heyday (before 2013) there were plenty of stripper poles used in Sosua and Puerto Plata. The obvious example was Pasions in Sosua. Santiago and Santo Domingo have plenty of places that have stripper poles.

Never heard of this club. Where is it located?

Our driver took us to phase 2. I kind a like this strip club. There were other Americans in there as well. Apparently this place is popular. The chicas in there ranged from 6 to 9. There were maybe about 20 on hand. The price was 190,000 pesos One hour session on site.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2300320]I was just in Boca Chica, waste of time. Nothing special, girls are not good looking at all. 5-6 rating at best. Beach is nice, but that is it. There is a nice bar within a casino in Santo Domingo, but that is it. Medelln and Bogota is way better.[/QUOTE]I'm not trumpeting the merits of Boca Chica, or the DR in general, especially when compared to MDE. Different strokes. I'm just pointing out that it's cheaper to fly to the DR than to MDE. Someone falsely claimed it's much more expensive.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300424]I'm sorry I don't know the name. It's outside of Hotel Normandia.[/QUOTE]It's either Club Maracaibo or Barra Ejecutiva. They are both right there.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2300460]Never heard of this club. Where is it located?

Our driver took us to phase 2. I kind a like this strip club. There were other Americans in there as well. Apparently this place is popular. The chicas in there ranged from 6 to 9. There were maybe about 20 on hand. The price was 190,000 pesos One hour session on site.[/QUOTE]Name sounds really similar to fase dos, not sure if the same place.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2300288]I am really surprised no one mentioned the much lower cost of everything in Colombia compared to the Dominican Republic. It is more than enough to cover a $200 to $300 higher priced airfare.[/QUOTE]In my opinion comparing an entire country to another country is unfair, whether it be safety or cost of living there are cheaper and more expensive places in every country. I have actually lived in both countries and can say that in my case that the DR is cheaper for me to live than what it cost me to live in Colombia but again I maintain that it is unfair to compare. It is like when people say that Colombia is dangerous, there are safe areas and dangerous areas. If you had never been to the USA And had only visited east L. A. You would think that the USA Was a crime filled shit hole but if your only visit to the USA Was to Kennebunkport Maine you would think it was paradise, same thing with costs of living. Just my dos centavos.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300424]I'm sorry I don't know the name. It's outside of Hotel Normandia.[/QUOTE]I just texts her she said it's cool to give her number. PM me for the info.

[QUOTE=ILuvThePussy;2300478]Name sounds really similar to fase dos, not sure if the same place.[/QUOTE]Yes sir you are correct! I use my voice text to type.

OK, let me explain it another way. The cost of girls from the worst to the best is overall cheaper by almost half in Colombia than in the Dominican Republic. If you lived in both countries you know the cost of utilities is comparable in both countries, but of course the frequency of power and water outages in the Dominican Republic means you need to have inverters, generators, and deal with maintaining tinacos (when is the last time you saw a water truck making the rounds in the middle of the city in Colombia). Compare the cost of taxis or uber, compare the costs local and imported groceries. Compare something as simple as an airport transfer in Medellin for about US $3. 00 or a US $20 taxi (the distance from the Medellin airport to the city is nearly double the distance from Santo Domingo to the airport), Dominican taxistas ask for ask for 50% to 100% more. I will give you this, rental cars are nearly twice as expensive in Colombia, but of course public transportation is cleaner, safer, and more reliable in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2300483]In my opinion comparing an entire country to another country is unfair, whether it be safety or cost of living there are cheaper and more expensive places in every country. I have actually lived in both countries and can say that in my case that the DR is cheaper for me to live than what it cost me to live in Colombia but again I maintain that it is unfair to compare. It is like when people say that Colombia is dangerous, there are safe areas and dangerous areas. If you had never been to the USA And had only visited east L. A. You would think that the USA Was a crime filled shit hole but if your only visit to the USA Was to Kennebunkport Maine you would think it was paradise, same thing with costs of living. Just my dos centavos.[/QUOTE]

I'm just having the time of my life on this vacation, I'm extremely under budget for the budget I had planned. Since there was so much talk about DR, I kind of focused on the darker shade of girls on my mongering hunt today. Many people in Vera Cruz are always surprised when I begin to speak Spanish clearly to them. So then its never a hassle about games or BS, I pitch my offer and they say yay or nay. I pulled 2 fantastic dark skinned chicas from Veracruz today and boy the second chic knocked my socks off, thank the man above I brought a few extra pair. Great day, great day, I'm lying in bed with my 20 yr old girlfriend typing this now. I saw many older chics on the stroll Friday and Saturday, but none would respond to my friend who was with me and usually he is truly a lady magnet. But the maduras would not give him play. When I asked a few friends why, their response was the older chics don't want to be banged for a full 30- 1 hour, so they usually reserve themselves for the older guys? In a way I suppose I bought it, cause they wouldn't even acknowledge my friend. Lotta girls wanted to do 3 some & 4 some but for only 30 minutes right there on the spot. I chose to take my selection back to my location close by. All in all, this vacation is going great. I'm sure all the girls in the DR look much better than these two and are most definitely cheaper. I like what I found! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2300538]OK, let me explain it another way. The cost of girls from the worst to the best is overall cheaper by almost half in Colombia than in the Dominican Republic. [/QUOTE]I have to disagree my Man. I know prices fluctuate depending on the place and people. And I am not an expert in Colombia. FunLuv quoted 150000-200000 in Colombia. I found this to be the average price range when I was there.

Example: MED average 150000 to 200000 or $48 - $64. Of course some can get it for much lower.

DR average 2000 -3000 or $40 - $60. Of course some can get it for much lower.

I cannot argue with your other points. Medellin is well organized with their casas and strip clubs. Although I’m not particular into both of those type of venues; I like the set up and enjoy the professional.

Professionalism can quickly take a curve in the DR. From the Taxis to the police and definitely Chica serves. Yes it's common for the police to pull you over and beg for money in the DR. The cabdrivers have no meters in there vehicles and Yes you don't Establish a price you will be gringoed! (New word). Like Cuba you can run into a lot of raw talent in the DR no facebook needed. What I mean by raw is Young over 17 chicas looking independently to make a little money. You won’t find them in a casa or walking the high traffic prostitution streets. You have overall raw DR versus overall organize Colombia.

In Medellin most of the chicas were Pros. with Less bullshit or potential problems. I have yet to have a bad session.

The DR we use the terms pro, semi Pro, and non-pro. The word Pro does it mean professionalism in the DR. It just means she sells a lot of Pussy full times. I prefer be in a small geographic of 1000's of independent pros, non-pros, and semi Pro using my experience to decipher between the chicas and my objective. Add the beach, the Haitianas, (I also have a chocolate fetish) and the influx of Venezuelans; The DR is my preferred destination.

Medellin like Havana is a good which up for me.I can definitely see why most of you guys here prefer Medellin. I saved more money and have a much better variety of eatery. Can’t wait for Brazil to lift there visa requirement.

I don't think you disagreed that Medellin casas are 50 K to 70 K, or $150 k at the higher end Laureles places. Of course girls will take 10 times that amount from guys willing to pay it. I don't personally know many guys who live in Colombia or are regular visitors who do the facebook scene as much as they rely on contacts they develop over time. I think that's true for most anyplace.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300776]I have to disagree my Man. I know prices fluctuate depending on the place and people. And I am not an expert in Colombia. FunLuv quoted 150000-200000 in Colombia. I found this to be the average price range when I was there.

Example: MED average 150000 to 200000 or $48 - $64. Of course some can get it for much lower.

DR average 2000 -3000 or $40 - $60. Of course some can get it for much lower.

I cannot argue with your other points. Medellin is well organized with their casas and strip clubs. Although Im not particular into both of those type of venues; I like the set up and enjoy the professional..[/QUOTE]

The last time I got one a 10 year Brazil tourist visa was US $100. What difference does that make for planning where to visit?

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300776]Medellin like Havana is a good which up for me.I can definitely see why most of you guys here prefer Medellin. I saved more money and have a much better variety of eatery. Cant wait for Brazil to lift there visa requirement.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912] I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded.[/QUOTE]You should try being honest with your posts. I responded to your question to me, and you acknowledged my response.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2300538]OK, let me explain it another way. The cost of girls from the worst to the best is overall cheaper by almost half in Colombia than in the Dominican Republic. If you lived in both countries you know the cost of utilities is comparable in both countries, but of course the frequency of power and water outages in the Dominican Republic means you need to have inverters, generators, and deal with maintaining tinacos (when is the last time you saw a water truck making the rounds in the middle of the city in Colombia). Compare the cost of taxis or uber, compare the costs local and imported groceries. Compare something as simple as an airport transfer in Medellin for about US $3. 00 or a US $20 taxi (the distance from the Medellin airport to the city is nearly double the distance from Santo Domingo to the airport), Dominican taxistas ask for ask for 50% to 100% more. I will give you this, rental cars are nearly twice as expensive in Colombia, but of course public transportation is cleaner, safer, and more reliable in Colombia.[/QUOTE]When one lives in either Colombia or the DR one should be getting decent enough prices for top shelf girls to the point where I don't worry about it, I don't lose my mind over paying 1500 pesos vs. 2000 like most of the guys on here do, it's ten bucks. Yes you can spend very little money to bang a girl on a cum stained mattress in a casa in Colombia if you want to, I prefer not to. All my girls in the DR come from Puerto Plata and come to my place and we fuck on a sealy posterpedic king size bed, I'll pay for that comfort. If one does their homework well enough then power outages and water issues don't exist in their place of living. My condo has a generator, I don't maintain it or pay for it so I could care less how often the power goes out and truth be told Sosua now has almost 24/7 power anyway. My condo complex has their own well and we are never without water, I pay 500 usd a month and get water and power 24/7. I did not find my food costs to be higher in the DR at all but if it was it is negligible or I would notice, I eat almost all my meals in restaurants to be truthful. Taxis are much higher in the DR but I own my own car so it is not an issue for me, if I did not own a car I would rent in town and no car is needed and when one goes out of town public transportation is plentiful and dirt cheap, I have numerous friends that live in Sosua and don't own cars and don't spend big bucks on transportation, no need to. All that said I'll repeat what I have said in previous posts, If Colombia had a nice beach in an easy to reach safe area I would be living there right now but there is no such place so I picked up and moved to Sosua and love it but if going to the beach almost every day is not important then Colombia is the bomb, go for it, Colombia is a beautiful country. To each their own.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2299912]...........
I personally reached out to Fun Luvr, Tall Man and Turgid. No one responded.................[/QUOTE]I make it a point to respond to everyone who reaches out to me. I definitely missed that post although I made it a point to read every post in the Medellin section when I was in Medellin. I'm back in pussy desert.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2300846]I'm back in pussy desert.[/QUOTE]I thought you said you have a smoking hot wife at home who is open minded and services you well. How can that be pussy desert?

Hi guys,

I'm preparing my next trip to Colombia.

I've visited last year Bogota and Cartagena. I had a very nice time in Bogota, a bit less in Cartagena as I was there during the semana Santa and it's was full of tourists but not so many chicas.

Anyway, my plan this year is to go back to Bogota but just for 3 or 4 days and then visit Medellin for 2 weeks.

I 'd like to have opinions from the experts if Medellin is worth a visit for 2 weeks. I'm not talking about the city itself but the girls, variety and easiness. Bogota really offers a large choice and I wonder if that the same in Medellin.

So which one of the 2 would you choose and why?

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2300826]You should try being honest with your posts. I responded to your question to me, and you acknowledged my response.[/QUOTE]Man you are so correct. Except my apology please. The whole time you are the one I've been talking about that reached out and kept it 100! Jj Help me with something else.
You pointing me in the right direction.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2300846]I make it a point to respond to everyone who reaches out to me. I definitely missed that post although I made it a point to read every post in the Medellin section when I was in Medellin. I'm back in pussy desert.[/QUOTE]It's all good.

New Life trip
50k pay after for half an hour did not have to buy a drink and chose a bleach blonde. I made a special request and it cost 20k extra and she declined negotiation. Good, compliant service, decent rooms and will repeat but maybe not on a Sunday that paraded 8 chicas. The best thing about this place is the no rush attitude because the girls are on the clock and want you to stay as long as you can. The bad news is its full of gringos that overpay and tip when not necessary because most times a commercial sex worker looks into your eyes they are looking right through you despite the fantasy, lmao.

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2300485]I just texts her she said it's cool to give her number. PM me for the info.[/QUOTE]I've done some searching and have no option to PM. Says I should be able to do so from the message but no luck. I have also looked for the option by clicking on your name but no luck. I'll keep giving it a shot until I figure it out.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2300860]I thought you said you have a smoking hot wife at home who is open minded and services you well. How can that be pussy desert?[/QUOTE]LOL. Even if I had a smoking hot wife (which I don't) it would still be pussy desert, though one with an oasis. In the 80's I used to cruise the streets and get cheap blow jobs in my car which I used to really enjoy. Don't do that anymore just $300+ per HR hookers who can be got for a fraction of the price in other countries. USA sucks, not anymore in a good way.

Since you made the thread about you, explain how you live in a condo but don't pay common charges for things like generators and public area cleaning / upkeep? On second thought, don't bother, let's just get back to girls.

I agree with everything you said about girls and prices and I find the Dominican Republic to be a very beautiful country.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;2300845]When one lives in either Colombia or the DR one should be getting decent enough prices for top shelf girls to the point where I don't worry about it, I don't lose my mind over paying 1500 pesos vs. 2000 like most of the guys on here do, it's ten bucks. Yes you can spend very little money to bang a girl on a cum stained mattress in a casa in Colombia if you want to, I prefer not to. All my girls in the DR come from Puerto Plata and come to my place and we fuck on a sealy posterpedic king size bed, I'll pay for that comfort. If one does their homework well enough then power outages and water issues don't exist in their place of living. My condo has a generator, I don't maintain it or pay for it so I could care less how often the power goes out and truth be told Sosua now has almost 24/7 power anyway. My condo complex has their own well and we are never without water, I pay 500 usd a month and get water and power 24/7. I did not find my food costs to be higher in the DR at all but if it was it is negligible or I would notice, I eat almost all my meals in restaurants to be truthful. Taxis are much higher in the DR but I own my own car so it is not an issue for me, if I did not own a car I would rent in town and no car is needed and when one goes out of town public transportation is plentiful and dirt cheap, I have numerous friends that live in Sosua and don't own cars and don't spend big bucks on transportation, no need to. All that said I'll repeat what I have said in previous posts, If Colombia had a nice beach in an easy to reach safe area I would be living there right now but there is no such place so I picked up and moved to Sosua and love it but if going to the beach almost every day is not important then Colombia is the bomb, go for it, Colombia is a beautiful country. To each their own.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2300923]I've done some searching and have no option to PM. Says I should be able to do so from the message but no luck. I have also looked for the option by clicking on your name but no luck. I'll keep giving it a shot until I figure it out.[/QUOTE]I received an email from Jackson that someone was trying to message me however my message box was full. I had to deleted some old messages. I am good now.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2300796]The last time I got one a 10 year Brazil tourist visa was US $100. What difference does that make for planning where to visit?[/QUOTE]$160 just for the visa and I am paying much more for the flight. Not mention the extra hours of flying and I don't speak the language; just a little bit too much for me. I budget myself playtime and money every month.

Now that visas will be much smaller; it lessons the budget stings. I'm getting in ready mode. Thank you for the info Gogo and E.

You got me curious so I checked my Brazil visa. It is 8 years old! I did get it for $100 but that was a while ago. I guess I better try to use it before it expires LOL!

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2301324]$160 just for the visa and I am paying much more for the flight. Not mention the extra hours of flying and I don't speak the language; just a little bit too much for me. I budget myself playtime and money every month.

Now that visas will be much smaller; it lessons the budget stings. I'm getting in ready mode. Thank you for the info Gogo and E.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2301377]You got me curious so I checked my Brazil visa. It is 8 years old! I did get it for $100 but that was a while ago. I guess I better try to use it before it expires LOL![/QUOTE]You do realize that Brazil is eliminating its visa requirement for Americans starting in June of this year?

[URL]https://onemileatatime.com/brazil-dropping-visa-requirements-us-citizens/[/URL]

Brazil Ends Visa Requirements for Visitors From USA.

Brazil has dropped visa requirements for visitors from the USA And several other nations, ahead of new leader Jair Bolsonaro's first meeting Tuesday with President Trump.

Brazil's government said Monday that tourists and business travelers from the USA, as well as Canada, Japan and Australia, won't need visas to visit the Latin American country as of June 17.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2300866]Hi guys,

I'm preparing my next trip to Colombia.

I've visited last year Bogota and Cartagena. I had a very nice time in Bogota, a bit less in Cartagena as I was there during the semana Santa and it's was full of tourists but not so many chicas.

Anyway, my plan this year is to go back to Bogota but just for 3 or 4 days and then visit Medellin for 2 weeks.

I 'd like to have opinions from the experts if Medellin is worth a visit for 2 weeks. I'm not talking about the city itself but the girls, variety and easiness. Bogota really offers a large choice and I wonder if that the same in Medellin.

So which one of the 2 would you choose and why?[/QUOTE]I tend to agree with your comments. It is my opinion that Bogota is a much bigger city and offers more variety of chicas. You can easily find girls that suit to any style, shape, taste and preference. One might argue that Bogota is more costly but that is not your question here. Also there's more to do in a larger city.

Please put your Chit Chat shit here.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3873-Medellin-Chit-Chat-Thread[/URL]

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2301586]You do realize that Brazil is eliminating its visa requirement for Americans starting in June of this year?

[URL]https://onemileatatime.com/brazil-dropping-visa-requirements-us-citizens/[/URL]

Brazil Ends Visa Requirements for Visitors From USA.

Brazil has dropped visa requirements for visitors from the USA And several other nations, ahead of new leader Jair Bolsonaro's first meeting Tuesday with President Trump.

Brazil's government said Monday that tourists and business travelers from the USA, as well as Canada, Japan and Australia, won't need visas to visit the Latin American country as of June 17.[/QUOTE]

Hey all,

Finally touched down yesterday. Will put a thorough day 1 & 2 trip report up later today after tonight's visitor leaves. Anyone, other than the rain, in town this week?

If you opt for a HR session but finish earlier than that do girls ask for propina for another go?

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2301586]You do realize that Brazil is eliminating its visa requirement for Americans starting in June of this year?

[URL]https://onemileatatime.com/brazil-dropping-visa-requirements-us-citizens/[/URL]

Brazil Ends Visa Requirements for Visitors From USA.

Brazil has dropped visa requirements for visitors from the USA And several other nations, ahead of new leader Jair Bolsonaro's first meeting Tuesday with President Trump.

Brazil's government said Monday that tourists and business travelers from the USA, as well as Canada, Japan and Australia, won't need visas to visit the Latin American country as of June 17.[/QUOTE]The visa was instituted initially due to reciprocity as Brazilians require a visa to visit those countries. That has not changed.

I take blame for sharing info. To this board. I received a text from the young lady today.

I had not been keeping up with it. Now I'm pissed off I won't get the full value of my $100, LOL! But seriously, Bolsonaro's policies don't line up with my views very much but leaders of his political stripe tend to be friends of the hobby.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2301586]You do realize that Brazil is eliminating its visa requirement for Americans starting in June of this year?

[URL]https://onemileatatime.com/brazil-dropping-visa-requirements-us-citizens/[/URL]

Brazil Ends Visa Requirements for Visitors From USA.

Brazil has dropped visa requirements for visitors from the USA And several other nations, ahead of new leader Jair Bolsonaro's first meeting Tuesday with President Trump.

Brazil's government said Monday that tourists and business travelers from the USA, as well as Canada, Japan and Australia, won't need visas to visit the Latin American country as of June 17.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2301766]I take blame for sharing info. To this board. I received a text from the young lady today.[/QUOTE]LOL. I hope that was a lesson learned. Point them to where the pussy is, but NEVER connect a total stranger with a specific chick. You will get fucked everytime. And most likely by a guy that has never been and has no intention on going.

It looks to me like a friend or relative saw the photos either second hand or on the site itself. I'm curious about the person who said seeing reports about the young lady "made them sad".

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2301766]I take blame for sharing info. To this board. I received a text from the young lady today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2301145]I received an email from Jackson that someone was trying to message me however my message box was full. I had to deleted some old messages. I am good now.[/QUOTE]Thanks anyway! Turns out it was on my end. I didn't realize PMs were part of paid and being from the USA the cards are being declined. I guess a money order will be the route to go for the future but to late for this trip. I land on Monday but have a few solid ladies lined up from see. See. That I have been chatting with for about a month now. I will also hit some of the casas as well. I'll be sure to report back either during my stay or afterwards.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2301586]You do realize that Brazil is eliminating its visa requirement for Americans starting in June of this year?

[URL]https://onemileatatime.com/brazil-dropping-visa-requirements-us-citizens/[/URL]

Brazil Ends Visa Requirements for Visitors From USA.

Brazil has dropped visa requirements for visitors from the USA And several other nations, ahead of new leader Jair Bolsonaro's first meeting Tuesday with President Trump.

Brazil's government said Monday that tourists and business travelers from the USA, as well as Canada, Japan and Australia, won't need visas to visit the Latin American country as of June 17.[/QUOTE]Not a big fan of either Colombia or Brazil. My opinion Colombia is 100 x better. I was in Rio for the holidays a year ago, complete waste of time and money, maybe it is better at different times of the year, but I doubt it.

I learned the hard way to bro. Not to your extreme, but totally not worth all that drama. Guys stop PM'in me for MDE contacts. Haha.

The great day of Medellin are slowly drifting away. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2301766]I take blame for sharing info. To this board. I received a text from the young lady today.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2301818]Not a big fan of either Colombia or Brazil. My opinion Colombia is 100 x better. I was in Rio for the holidays a year ago, complete waste of time and money, maybe it is better at different times of the year, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]Damn! You must not have gone to the same Brazil I hang out in, LOL.

My favorite place on earth!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2302058]Damn! You must not have gone to the same Brazil I hang out in, LOL.
[/QUOTE]That does seem odd. To me the holidays mean Decemberish (when summer is in swing and the people are happy and in their element. I suppose if you did not know the options Rio could be intimidating or boring (termas, the escort services, which clubs to find women, centro MPs) but that's only if you are operating completely in the dark.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2301820]

The great day of Medellin are slowly drifting away. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]Can't avoid the inevitable. Enjoy it while you can!

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2302195]Can't avoid the inevitable. Enjoy it while you can![/QUOTE]I been here for a week and everything seems great to me. Girls are hotter than ever and the competition is fierce amongst them.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2302062]That does seem odd. To me the holidays mean Decemberish (when summer is in swing and the people are happy and in their element. I suppose if you did not know the options Rio could be intimidating or boring (termas, the escort services, which clubs to find women, centro MPs) but that's only if you are operating completely in the dark.[/QUOTE]I was there at Christmas and most were on Holidays. Food was bad, service was worse. Homeless people everywhere, no cops, garbage pilled up all over the place, it was pretty bad. Music was good, but that was about it. I am big fan of Moscow and Mexico, no offense.

Where have you been going? Lately I've been going almost every month to see my Venezuelan GF that I met at one of the centro hostess bars back in October. She had just arrived in September 2018 and was working only a few days at that bar. She is a 8 or 9 in my book. Seems to be a good girl. I gave her the hoe test. LOL. She is very needy though. "Apoyo economico" . I give her about 200 k when I leave to go back to the states. She is very grateful and shows me pics of the Receipt of the money she sends back home to Venezuela to her parents. Shit is so fucked in Venezuela. Anyway I'm getting tired of her and the neediness. I always manage to excape a few hours to the centro casas and to be honest these past few months have been kinda bad. New life is always solid. But service there is so mechanical. One time I got GFE from a Casa one block and to the left of new life. New spot and a sexy paisa that just started that day. Man was I lucky. She gave me bbj without asking and DFK while she was on top. Great GFE experience.

Can you guys believe that my Venezuelan girlfriend doesn't like to give head. That's another reason why I'm trying to get rid of her.

I'm dying for some monster head. That's why I'm going to Bogota this weekend. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2302207]I been here for a week and everything seems great to me. Girls are hotter than ever and the competition is fierce amongst them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2302235]Where have you been going? Lately I've been going almost every month to see my Venezuelan GF that I met at one of the centro hostess bars back in October. She had just arrived in September 2018 and was working only a few days at that bar. She is a 8 or 9 in my book. Seems to be a good girl. I gave her the hoe test. LOL. She is very needy though. "Apoyo economico" . I give her about 200 k when I leave to go back to the states. She is very grateful and shows me pics of the Receipt of the money she sends back home to Venezuela to her parents. Shit is so fucked in Venezuela. Anyway I'm getting tired of her and the neediness. I always manage to excape a few hours to the centro casas and to be honest these past few months have been kinda bad. New life is always solid. But service there is so mechanical. One time I got GFE from a Casa one block and to the left of new life. New spot and a sexy paisa that just started that day. Man was I lucky. She gave me bbj without asking and DFK while she was on top. Great GFE experience.

Can you guys believe that my Venezuelan girlfriend doesn't like to give head. That's another reason why I'm trying to get rid of her.

I'm dying for some monster head. That's why I'm going to Bogota this weekend. LOL.[/QUOTE]My regulars on FB give me BBBJ all the time. For new girls this trip if I felt like partying at night I'the go to Lleras and walk around. You'll always see a few real hot girls in the streets. I'll tell a girl to come party and nothing more. Haven't been turned down yet.

Then I tell them what I want in the bedroom and off we go. I'll offer 100 usd since I know it is Lleras. But I think it's more than worth it for 6 hours total time with the girl.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2302267]My regulars on FB give me BBBJ all the time. For new girls this trip if I felt like partying at night I'the go to Lleras and walk around. You'll always see a few real hot girls in the streets. I'll tell a girl to come party and nothing more. Haven't been turned down yet.

Then I tell them what I want in the bedroom and off we go. I'll offer 100 usd since I know it is Lleras. But I think it's more than worth it for 6 hours total time with the girl.[/QUOTE]Hey bud, I have used Cupid with some success. But what is the best way to get started on the right track on FB? Any advice on FB strategies would be appreciated! I do speak Spanish and do have time, which I assume is good. I prefer meeting girls form cupid and FB etc.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2302284]Hey bud, I have used Cupid with some success. But what is the best way to get started on the right track on FB? Any advice on FB strategies would be appreciated! I do speak Spanish and do have time, which I assume is good. I prefer meeting girls form cupid and FB etc.[/QUOTE]Here's the easy way to get started on Facebook, assuming you already have an account.

1. Type "happy ending Medellin" in the search bar.

2. Click on the profile that pops up.

3. Click on "See all friends."

4. Scan through the list of friends. You're looking for women and gringos.

5. For women on the list, add them as a friend. Do this with all of them.

6. For gringos on the list, go to their profile. Check if their friend list is visible to you.

7. If you find a gringo with their friend list visible, go through and repeat step 5.

8. For each girl who accepts your friend request, repeat step 4.

9. Soon you should begin receiving messages from the girls. Or you can initiate contact with them.

10. After you start building a list of friends, Facebook will start recommending other accounts. These are all possible sources.

If a girl's friend list isn't visible, and you're trying to determine whether or not she's a prepago, check through her pictures. Find a sexy one that has a lot of likes. See who liked the picture. If she's a known prepago, there will be some gringos listed. You can also find the accounts of her friends this way.

11. Ask girls who you see from other sources for their Facebook. The idea is to branch out from the overused prepagos into the less known girls.

At some point your list will begin to snowball. Girls will begin to send you friend requests.

Two things to be aware of:

1. Just like on Cupid, there are some ANP (amor, necesito plata) girls on Facebook. Deal with them as you wish.

2. Not all the girls you connect with are prepagos. Some will get offended with a too direct approach.

You can do a few things to enhance your profile. Post pictures of yourself around Medellin and scenic views around Medellin. Review bars and restaurants in Medellin. Anything to show you're in the city, spending money and having fun.

I can't believe you had to spell it out LOL. Facebook is been around for how many years

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2302374]Here's the easy way to get started on Facebook, assuming you already have an account.

1. Type "happy ending Medellin" in the search bar.

2. Click on the profile that pops up.

3. Click on "See all friends."

4. Scan through the list of friends. You're looking for women and gringos.

5. For women on the list, add them as a friend. Do this with all of them.

6. For gringos on the list, go to their profile. Check if their friend list is visible to you.

7. If you find a gringo with their friend list visible, go through and repeat step 5.

8. For each girl who accepts your friend request, repeat step 4.

9. Soon you should begin receiving messages from the girls. Or you can initiate contact with them.

10. After you start building a list of friends, Facebook will start recommending other accounts. These are all possible sources.

If a girl's friend list isn't visible, and you're trying to determine whether or not she's a prepago, check through her pictures. Find a sexy one that has a lot of likes. See who liked the picture. If she's a known prepago, there will be some gringos listed. You can also find the accounts of her friends this way.

11. Ask girls who you see from other sources for their Facebook. The idea is to branch out from the overused prepagos into the less known girls.

At some point your list will begin to snowball. Girls will begin to send you friend requests.

Two things to be aware of:

1. Just like on Cupid, there are some ANP (amor, necesito plata) girls on Facebook. Deal with them as you wish.

2. Not all the girls you connect with are prepagos. Some will get offended with a too direct approach.

You can do a few things to enhance your profile. Post pictures of yourself around Medellin and scenic views around Medellin. Review bars and restaurants in Medellin. Anything to show you're in the city, spending money and having fun.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2302235]Where have you been going? Lately I've been going almost every month to see my Venezuelan GF that I met at one of the centro hostess bars back in October.[/QUOTE]Never heard of Hostess Bars in centro. To what do you refer?

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2302503]I can't believe you had to spell it out LOL. Facebook is been around for how many years.[/QUOTE]Well my last semester of grad school in the summer of 2005, I remember the younger students asking me if I had TheFacebook. I had no idea what that shit was. It was only for students then. So I would figure it has been around since 2004 or so.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2302503]I can't believe you had to spell it out LOL. Facebook is been around for how many years

.[/QUOTE]Jjbee: Thank you for "spelling it out" for me LOL. Genuinely appreciate it.

To DC: Yes, FB has been around for many years. I'd wager that finding working girls in Colombia is not most FB users' second nature.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2302517]Well my last semester of grad school in the summer of 2005, I remember the younger students asking me if I had TheFacebook. I had no idea what that shit was. It was only for students then. So I would figure it has been around since 2004 or so.[/QUOTE]Just a side note, FB was launched 2005. LOL.

Chico.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2301818]Not a big fan of either Colombia or Brazil. My opinion Colombia is 100 x better. I was in Rio for the holidays a year ago, complete waste of time and money, maybe it is better at different times of the year, but I doubt it.[/QUOTE]Why do you feel that way about Rio.

[QUOTE=HBoy54;2302506]Never heard of Hostess Bars in centro. To what do you refer?[/QUOTE]There are dozens of them that I know of. I never thought to call them hostess bars, but that's an appropriate name. Carrera 52,52 A and 53 between Calle 53 and 54. Carrera 52 A is the walking street with all the fruit and vegetable vendors. Carrera 52 is the street that starts at Botero Plaza and runs north alongside Conejitas.

Most of the bars in the area will have from 1 to 20 girls sitting inside. Some are just there to get you to buy more drinks. Some are willing to explore other income opportunities.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2302529]Jjbee: Thank you for "spelling it out" for me LOL. Genuinely appreciate it.

To DC: Yes, FB has been around for many years. I'd wager that finding working girls in Colombia is not most FB users' second nature.[/QUOTE]In DC's defense, there have been at least a dozen posts explaining how to find girls on Facebook.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2302704]There are dozens of them that I know of. I never thought to call them hostess bars, but that's an appropriate name.[/QUOTE]Thanks, what they call lady bars in Mexico.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2302705]In DC's defense, there have been at least a dozen posts explaining how to find girls on Facebook.[/QUOTE]Then don't answer the question -- ignore it -- but folks got to stop bitching so much.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2302284]Hey bud, I have used Cupid with some success. But what is the best way to get started on the right track on FB? Any advice on FB strategies would be appreciated! I do speak Spanish and do have time, which I assume is good. I prefer meeting girls form cupid and FB etc.[/QUOTE]Ask the girls you already know for their facebook, add in a few of their friends and soon people will start adding you.

I started with with 3 friends and 6 months later hitting the 500 mark, if you get stuck go go hotel m page and add in people who like / comment including the males who have plenty of friends.

M.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2302671]Why do you feel that way about Rio.[/QUOTE]1. Way Too Dangerous for me 2. Homeless People Everywhere 3. Garbage Pilled up, and not picked up 4. Bad Food and Service 5. No Police.

Pros 1. Weather 2. Music Just a good fit for me, not into big asses and shitty food. I know there are better places to go in Brazil, but until they get there act politically I would avoid. Moscow and Mexico are the best fit for me.

I will have a 6 hour lay over in Modellin before flying home. It's from midnight to 5 am.

Any suggestions what could be done during that time?

On Saturday and Sunday night I went to Lleras. Went to a few different bars near Paris hotel. Saw a couple decent girls nothing outstanding. The funniest shit happened. On Saturday night I asked a girl how much she charges she quoted me 550 usd. I said dollars in US and told her how much in pesos she said 1. 5 million. I said no and she asked me how much I want to pay I said have a good night and walked away. This is where it gets even funnier. On Sunday night I stopped into Hacienda. About 15 prepagos walking around. So I converse with this chica and asked her how much to have some fun tonight. Wouldn't you know it she quoted me $550 usd again lmao. I spoke with her in Spanish said come on be realistic. And I just walked away. Is some idiot paying these prices and word is getting around? Lmao. Not to mention I had no intention on banging these girls. Just small talk and a little dancing. I think the girls or some of the guys have lost their minds.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2303500]I will have a 6 hour lay over in Modellin before flying home. It's from midnight to 5 am.

Any suggestions what could be done during that time?[/QUOTE]Very limited time. I think best option Would be local hotel near airport and a incall.

Medellin is being invaded by morons with lots of disposable income. The same thing happened in Rio de Janeiro during the Help heydays (May it rest in peace). I would never tell someone how to spend their money, but, damn! Are you f*king kidding me? No one goes to a fast food restaurant and spend $100 for a soft drink. No way to justify this level of irresponsibility. Expect the $1,000 usd request real soon. It's coming lmao!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2303681]On Saturday and Sunday night I went to Lleras. Went to a few different bars near Paris hotel. Saw a couple decent girls nothing outstanding. The funniest shit happened. On Saturday night I asked a girl how much she charges she quoted me 550 usd. I said dollars in US and told her how much in pesos she said 1. 5 million. I said no and she asked me how much I want to pay I said have a good night and walked away. This is where it gets even funnier. On Sunday night I stopped into Hacienda. About 15 prepagos walking around. So I converse with this chica and asked her how much to have some fun tonight. Wouldn't you know it she quoted me $550 usd again lmao. I spoke with her in Spanish said come on be realistic. And I just walked away. Is some idiot paying these prices and word is getting around? Lmao. Not to mention I had no intention on banging these girls. Just small talk and a little dancing. I think the girls or some of the guys have lost their minds.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2303681]The funniest shit happened. On Saturday night I asked a girl how much she charges she quoted me 550 usd.[/QUOTE]Well it is cheaper than back home!

Not much since medellin city is almost an hour away from the city, I don't know if there is anything of quality near the airport. Sorry.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2303500]I will have a 6 hour lay over in Modellin before flying home. It's from midnight to 5 am.

Any suggestions what could be done during that time?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2303732]Well it is cheaper than back home![/QUOTE]Not at 550 usd from the 2 girls who asked for it. If it was Shakira when she was 20's I'll pay for it LOL. The 2 girls who asked for this are not even worth 200 mil cop.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2302704]There are dozens of them that I know of. I never thought to call them hostess bars, but that's an appropriate name. Carrera 52,52 A and 53 between Calle 53 and 54. Carrera 52 A is the walking street with all the fruit and vegetable vendors. Carrera 52 is the street that starts at Botero Plaza and runs north alongside Conejitas.

Most of the bars in the area will have from 1 to 20 girls sitting inside. Some are just there to get you to buy more drinks. Some are willing to explore other income opportunities.[/QUOTE]Took the words right out of my mouth. The walking street is where a lot of The Venezuelan girls work. That's where I met my GF.

[QUOTE=MjTravelLove;2302529]Jjbee: Thank you for "spelling it out" for me LOL. Genuinely appreciate it.

To DC: Yes, FB has been around for many years. I'd wager that finding working girls in Colombia is not most FB users' second nature.[/QUOTE]In this case it's better than being a dumbass. LOL.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2303713]Medellin is being invaded by morons with lots of disposable income. The same thing happened in Rio de Janeiro during the Help heydays (May it rest in peace). I would never tell someone how to spend their money, but, damn! Are you f*king kidding me? No one goes to a fast food restaurant and spend $100 for a soft drink. No way to justify this level of irresponsibility. Expect the $1,000 usd request real soon. It's coming lmao![/QUOTE]Information from this forum gets used by other sites so I'm mindful of that when I think about posting.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2303882]Information from this forum gets used by other sites so I'm mindful of that when I think about posting.[/QUOTE]I don't think the big spenders are specifically coming from that forum pictured however I can't understand wth is going on when 2 girls who I wouldn't rate past a 4 or 5 is asking for 1. 5 million pesos.

My assumption is that one or 2 girls they know in this bizz got that kind of money and are trying to hit the jackpot. But once they spit out a dumb number like that regardless if they are hot or not I'm turned off and too late to negotiate.

Well, I finally made it. With work obligations I haven't had enough time to sit around and anticipate this trip. However, I must say after reading up on the boards for several weeks I was excited the day had come.

First off, just a little note about the airport process and catching a ride to El Poblado. I arrived around 5 pm and the only people going through customs was our flight. I was through the entire process in under 10 minutes. I attempted to use Uber but had 2 people cancel on me. I decided to go with the white taxi. Weather was nasty and the drive took about 50 minutes to get to the Marriott. Total flat rate was 75,000 and I tipped 10,000. Got settled in the room and waited for the storm to pass. I had planned to take a stroll through Parque Lleras but the weather wasn't cooperating. I decided to visit a club.

What I'm about to share with you I wouldn't recommend anyone else in their right mind attempt if you are solo. With very little Spanish and my phone to help translate, I decided to head to Conejitas. If you do decide to go here don't say Playmates Bar show as even the locals on the street didn't know that name. Or at least those my driver asked.

As we are driving I start to see the light of Medellin and think oh crap, what am I doing. My driver rode around looking for Playmates and took me down some streets I know I shouldn't have been on. Luckily the windows were limo tint and no one could see the gringo. We finally found the location and paid the fare of 15 k. I approached the security guard (doorman) and he welcomed me right in. The server? Greeted me and showed me to a table near the stage. My only saving grace here was this guy spoke decent English. My cell service inside the building would not work which means no google translator. He told me the beers were 6,000 and brought me one. He asked if I wanted a girl and I told him I'the like a younger nice looking one. I was a little worried as most of the ladies I had seen up to the point were 5-7's. Merry Christmas to me because he brought me a girl that could have been no more than 22,5 ft 4 at best, and around 110 lbs.

He asked if I wanted to have sex with her now or wait. I figured since we weren't going to be chatting I might as well seal the deal. Total price I paid was 80,000 for the hour which included a 10 K tip at the end. She led me to a small room close to the bar that appeared to be the ladies dressing room with small lockers. One of the lockers swung up and I felt like a magician disappearing in the next room. Keep in mind I'm in the middle of binge watching Narcos so I'm already thinking tunnel. She lead me up some stairs and eventually to a booth where she picked up some towels and condoms. We walked in the room and undressed. She walked over to me got on her knees and started licking and sucking my balls. I'm thinking any minute now she's going to reach for that condom and she eventually did but not before she gave a good 10 minute BBBJ. I then wrapped up and thought I would pop before getting inside her as she was very tight. Her boobs were MM but fit her frame perfectly. Her ass was natural and very firm. She was every bit of a 9 and trust me I've been with some nice looking ladies in Texas, but this girl was on fire.

She was very responsive and vocal and made every minute we had together count. We used the 2 condoms she had and then one of mine. Needless to say I was ready to recharge. Would I go back there again by myself at night? Hello No! The taxi drivers had no idea where I was trying to get back to even with the address. The guys in the club made sure to call their friend who was also a taxi driver as they felt it would be safer than messing with those other guys. Fare back in the taxi was around 12,000 which wasn't bad for a 15-20 minute drive. I decided to get some rest so I would be prepared for tomorrow. I am going to try and attempt New Life after lunch. I will also be meeting a girl from Colombian Cupid that I have been talking with for a few months now. She's not a prepaid but she's already expressed her interest in getting intimate. I guess Since I'll turn 40 in June I might as well send 39 out with a bang!

More to come.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2303681]On Saturday and Sunday night I went to Lleras. Went to a few different bars near Paris hotel. Saw a couple decent girls nothing outstanding. The funniest shit happened. On Saturday night I asked a girl how much she charges she quoted me 550 usd. I said dollars in US and told her how much in pesos she said 1. 5 million. I said no and she asked me how much I want to pay I said have a good night and walked away. This is where it gets even funnier. On Sunday night I stopped into Hacienda. About 15 prepagos walking around. So I converse with this chica and asked her how much to have some fun tonight. Wouldn't you know it she quoted me $550 usd again lmao. I spoke with her in Spanish said come on be realistic. And I just walked away. Is some idiot paying these prices and word is getting around? Lmao. Not to mention I had no intention on banging these girls. Just small talk and a little dancing. I think the girls or some of the guys have lost their minds.[/QUOTE]If you ask a chica how much and she responds 550 and you ask dollars or pesos, she then looks at your Rolex she's going to respond dollars (substitute any other expensive brand you're wearing for Rolex). Medellin is becoming very touristified and an influx of tourists brings out the hustlers.

Well probably shouldn't be asking how much. Rather telling them how much you are going to pay. Never ask them LOL.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2304072]If you ask a chica how much and she responds 550 and you ask dollars or pesos, she then looks at your Rolex she's going to respond dollars (substitute any other expensive brand you're wearing for Rolex). Medellin is becoming very touristified and an influx of tourists brings out the hustlers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2304072]If you ask a chica how much and she responds 550 and you ask dollars or pesos, she then looks at your Rolex she's going to respond dollars (substitute any other expensive brand you're wearing for Rolex). Medellin is becoming very touristified and an influx of tourists brings out the hustlers.[/QUOTE]This is my 7th time in mde in a year. I know basic rules. I don't wear jewelry or chains etc. My guess is someone paid it or a group of guys paid this price and word got around.

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2303941] My cell service inside the building would not work which means no google translator.
More to come.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report!

FYI, you can download Google Translations for spanish (or any other language) for offline use.

Same with Google Maps although the offline Maps are not as detailed with local attractions as the online data.

Hi mate,

Sounds like you making the mistakes of a newbie. You need to brush up your game or someone may play you.

Regarding the girl from Colombian Cupid, take her for a coffee and judge her before you take her back. Maybe people are getting drugged so play with caution first.

I met a few on there and no issues but one I was so unsure of.

M.

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2303941]Well, I finally made it. With work obligations I haven't had enough time to sit around and anticipate this trip. However, I must say after reading up on the boards for several weeks I was excited the day had come.

First off, just a little note about the airport process and catching a ride to El Poblado. I arrived around 5 pm and the only people going through customs was our flight. I was through the entire process in under 10 minutes. I attempted to use Uber but had 2 people cancel on me. I decided to go with the white taxi. Weather was nasty and the drive took about 50 minutes to get to the Marriott. Total flat rate was 75,000 and I tipped 10,000. Got settled in the room and waited for the storm to pass. I had planned to take a stroll through Parque Lleras but the weather wasn't cooperating. I decided to visit a club.

What I'm about to share with you I wouldn't recommend anyone else in their right mind attempt if you are solo. With very little Spanish and my phone to help translate, I decided to head to Conejitas. If you do decide to go here don't say Playmates Bar show as even the locals on the street didn't know that name. Or at least those my driver asked..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2303941]Well, I finally made it. With work obligations I haven't had enough time to sit around and anticipate this trip. However, I must say after reading up on the boards for several weeks I was excited the day had come.

First off, just a little note about the airport process and catching a ride to El Poblado. I arrived around 5 pm and the only people going through customs was our flight. I was through the entire process in under 10 minutes. I attempted to use Uber but had 2 people cancel on me. I decided to go with the white taxi. Weather was nasty and the drive took about 50 minutes to get to the Marriott. Total flat rate was 75,000 and I tipped 10,000. Got settled in the room and waited for the storm to pass. I had planned to take a stroll through Parque Lleras but the weather wasn't cooperating. I decided to visit a club.

What I'm about to share with you I wouldn't recommend anyone else in their right mind attempt if you are solo. With very little Spanish and my phone to help translate, I decided to head to Conejitas. If you do decide to go here don't say Playmates Bar show as even the locals on the street didn't know that name. Or at least those my driver asked..[/QUOTE]There are some gems to be found at Conjejitas on occasion. Don't forget to sample some of the other casas and clubs around town. You'll have a memorable time exploring MDE. Thanks for the trip report and keep 'them coming. Happy birthday.

I've been living here for almost 2 years now so like anywhere else when you're around all the time you have a better chance of catching those diamonds in the rough. I recently had a great session with a beautiful 23 year old chica with no kids who had hair down to her booty. When I asked about a BBBJ, she said that was apart from the regular service. I said I would give her a propina. Now here is where the good part comes in. She said OK and didn't mention any amount! The sex was great. She had big natural boobs so I was licking her nipples while stroking and she seemed to be getting turned on. When I busted, I kept deep stroking and she rolled with it. We stopped when I decided to pull out. I gave her a propina for the BBBJ and she smiled and said thank you. I kept thinking this chica with a flawless body and pretty face is also super sweet. I asked her how long she has been working at that spot and she said she was very new. I asked her if she had a BF and she said between work and school there is no time.

I have a pretty good rotation of places so I don't even remember names anymore. I just walk around after the gym and decide which place I want to hit as I am walking, as I know what the streets look like and their general location relative to the gym LOL.

[QUOTE=Voyajer1;2303713]Medellin is being invaded by morons ... [/QUOTE]Haha, that's funny, but true.

Those with good Spanish skills, not Google Translate style, LOL, and a cool manera can still do well, however, you're right, the morons have arrived, LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2304240]Haha, that's funny, but true.

Those with good Spanish skills, not Google Translate style, LOL, and a cool manera can still do well, however, you're right, the morons have arrived, LOL.[/QUOTE]A girl I know hit the jackpot recently. She met a guy online and he came here to visit and fell in love. They communicate through google translate, but the guy is head over heels for this babe. I expect her to be getting her green card soon, LOL.

I don't get it, what is it that you are recommending guys don't do? It seems like it worked out really well for you. Now that you know the place is called Conejitas you will probably not have trouble getting there next time. The 15 k fare from Poblado is not bad at all. The uber cancellations are not unusual. You have to give yourself extra time, especially during rush hour and when it's raining. Thanks for sharing.

[QUOTE=TXGuy009;2303941]Well, I finally made it. With work obligations I haven't had enough time to sit around and anticipate this trip. However, I must say after reading up on the boards for several weeks I was excited the day had come.

First off, just a little note about the airport process and catching a ride to El Poblado. I arrived around 5 pm and the only people going through customs was our flight. I was through the entire process in under 10 minutes. I attempted to use Uber but had 2 people cancel on me. I decided to go with the white taxi. Weather was nasty and the drive took about 50 minutes to get to the Marriott. Total flat rate was 75,000 and I tipped 10,000. Got settled in the room and waited for the storm to pass. I had planned to take a stroll through Parque Lleras but the weather wasn't cooperating.[/QUOTE]

Decided to visit New Life early today to avoid a wait. I ended up getting there around 9:45. Before getting to the good stuff I just want to offer a little advice from what I have experienced thus far. Taxis are great and cheap when traffic is light. I have gotten in the habit of trying to go with Uber during the majority of the day. There are many more cars on the road and traffic is chaotic. With Uber you will know your rate and with the taxi, the meter is constantly running while in traffic. Unlike the 2 cancels at the airport, I have had no issues using Uber on the few areas I've visited. Keep in mind that you will need to sit up front with your Uber driver to make it appear you know each other. This is a precaution since Uber isn't technically legal here. Just my. 02.

So back to the story. I arrive at the address and see the blue door. I have seen where some people have said that the location address may not pull up correctly and for this reason I put in the destination address for Restaurante de la Pastoral. This is a restaurant right next to the blue door. No issues at all getting there. I opened the door and before I could ring the bell I heard the gate buzz and it unlocked and so did the second one a few steps away. I waked up the stairs and was greeted by an older gentlemen. He walked me to the waiting room where I was alone and asked me if I wanted a drink which I declined. He said he would go get the Chicas. There was a lineup of about 9 girls. Only 2 of them were even on my radar as 7-8's and the rest were 4-6's.

I decided to go with the last one I saw and her name was Lina. She was 22 about 5'6 and around 120 lbs. Nice MM double DS that complimented her frame. She had long brown hair and took good care of herself. Well as good as you can working in a casa I suppose. She led me to the room and we used google translator to discuss BBBJ as an addition. We agreed to 30 K. In all honesty I probably should have passed on that because it definitely wasn't her strength. After about 10 minutes she then suits me up and ask how I want it. We go through many positions before I unload. She was a little more vocal than the Chica last night and obviously didn't care if the people on the street heard her. Anyway we finished up and I gave her 30 K plus 10 K tip. I ended up staying 30 minutes so I paid the 50 K at the counter. All in all it was a great experience and I will definitely be back a few times before heading home. Next time I will skip the extras and stick with the 50 K.

I also met up with the Chica from Colombian Cupid. We had lunch and she is coming to spend the night with me tonight. She is 24 and all natural. She is not a prepaid so I'm hoping for some serious GFE as she was very affectionate today at lunch. I'll fill you all in on the details tomorrow. About to head out to Parque Lleras while the weather is cooperating.

Sorry. Maybe I should have been a little more clearer. The club was great but I don't recommend going to that area alone at night with limited communication skills. Lesson learned but this is not a reflection on the club. It's all on me.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2304247]I don't get it, what is it that you are recommending guys don't do? It seems like it worked out really well for you. Now that you know the place is called Conejitas you will probably not have trouble getting there next time. The 15 k fare from Poblado is not bad at all. The uber cancellations are not unusual. You have to give yourself extra time, especially during rush hour and when it's raining. Thanks for sharing.[/QUOTE]

I agree rookie mistake that taught me a lesson. As far as the girl from Colombian Cupid, we had lunch together today and hopefully I'll be around tomorrow to report on how the night went with her as she is coming to the hotel at 10.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2304209]Hi mate,

Sounds like you making the mistakes of a newbie. You need to brush up your game or someone may play you.

Regarding the girl from Colombian Cupid, take her for a coffee and judge her before you take her back. Maybe people are getting drugged so play with caution first.

I met a few on there and no issues but one I was so unsure of.

M.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2304247]The uber cancellations are not unusual.[/QUOTE]The fucked up thing is when you wait 10 min for an Uber to come. He arrives and you get inside. Then he asks you where you are going and decides to cancel after that. Happened to me yesterday here in Barranquilla. It is like mf can't you see where I am going before you accept it?

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2304150]Well probably shouldn't be asking how much. Rather telling them how much you are going to pay. Never ask them LOL.[/QUOTE]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.

Anyone willing to show the ropes.

You make it sound like a bad thing LOL. We men at the end of the day. Is she a pro? Or non pro? Semi? It all depends. Is she using him?. We never know these days they still women at the end of the day. There's a chance he could be getting played. There's also a chance it might be real who knows.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2304242]A girl I know hit the jackpot recently. She met a guy online and he came here to visit and fell in love. They communicate through google translate, but the guy is head over heels for this babe. I expect her to be getting her green card soon, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]Everyone knows Lleras is a tourist trap, for the uninformed, and often dudes fall for the bait and then complain instead of walking away, they don't know no better or don't care! Not to say you can't pull anything reasonable, yes of course they will try you! As far as this stupidity affecting the game? Its a buyers market there more women selling ass than buyers so where essentially outnumbered there for we can dictate the prices, they can either accept it or not, every paisa quoting high prices ain't making that kind of money a night or weekly and let them speak for a whole city is ridiculous. Besides Medellin got way to many options. Now when the casas and strip clubs start talking about 300 k standard then there's going to be a problem, highly doubtful.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]150 mil plus taxi at 20 or 30 is what I always get.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]Because they may say something lower. Prime example. My girlfriend just left for work. It will be a couple of months before I see her again. I was about to give her 100K. Before I did that she asked me for 50K because she needed to buy something. I saved myself 50K by letting her talk first. Had she asked for 300K, I could have always said I only have 100K.

Just like shopping. You don't just walk up with an offer for the stuff that is being sold. You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.

Of course 150K would be greeted with acceptance, because it is too damn much! I remember when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to the USD. Would you have been walking around all willy nilly offering chicks $93 back then? The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]It works either way. If the girl is telling guys she wants $550 USD, she's not going to jump on 150 k or 200 k COP, just because someone told her that's what he pays, instead of asking what she wants.

No matter which way you start the negotiation, you have the ability to walk away.

Instead of worrying about whether to ask her price, or to tell your price, people should work on moving on to the next girl. Those girls wanting $200 or more don't need your money. At $200, she only needs 1 guy to say yes every 3 weeks. At $550, 1 time every 6 weeks and she's doing okay. Leave them for the guys who are happy to pay.

They aren't doing anything unusual by asking those prices. Last night in Miami, New York, Chicago and Los Angeles, among other places, there were women getting paid $10,000, even though plenty of pussy can be found for $200. Tonight it will repeat.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.[/QUOTE]Excellent point and good advice! Many sex tourists think short term. Like another guy was saying, when he flies to Colombia for a weekend, he doesn't have time to haggle or waste time bargain shopping. He is willing to pay a premium to save time. That coupled with guys thinking in their local currency tends to fool them into thinking they are paying a good price, even if it is 2 or 3 times more than what others are paying. But it's your money and you have the right to spend it how you like, even if others think you are overpaying.

We often assume most guys understand the Colombia currency and / or the full concept of geographical arbitrage, but these are not things that can be easily spoon fed through Google translate. Even if the dollar weakened, it wouldn't affect a lot of these folks because they have so much deposable income, but it would affect some.

Is 150 mil overnight and multiple shots rate, or an hour rate? Thanks.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Why people can't stick to this simple rule, I will never know. For chicas on social media, Most of the time an offer of 150 mil will be greeted with acceptance or at most a counteroffer, at which time you can decide if its worth it. Never ask.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2304150]Never ask them LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304328]Never ask.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.[/QUOTE]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]So 500 dollar discussion at the hotel? LOL.

One thing I learned is, its always better to play with clear rules, you don't want a fight at the hotel.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2304507]So 500 dollar discussion at the hotel? LOL.

One thing I learned is, its always better to play with clear rules, you don't want a fight at the hotel.[/QUOTE]That is where experience comes into play. First of all, you walk them outside before you pay them. You know where you got your chick from and you know the going rates there. Example. A couple of weeks ago I was home in Thailand. I met this chick at a hooker disco and she came home with me. The next day I took her home and when she got off my motorbike I stuck $34 in her pocket. She started walking to her door and checked her pocket and counted the money. She came back and asked for $28 more. I said no way. She kept asking and I kept saying no way.

I know the money that I always give is fair. I have been giving the same thing for years. So a few days later she is trying to come stay over again; and again after that. So evidently the $34 that I gave her the first day was sufficient or she would not keep trying to come back.

I do understand what you mean though. I was in Nigeria and had read all up and down the forum to pay chicks the equivalent of $30. Me and my coworker picked up some chicks in the disco of the hotel. After the deed I give my girl the $30 and she wants way more. I told her no way. So we were at a standoff. She kept saying she was going to go get security. I told her to go get them. Who did she think they would listen to, her or me? She cried, I cried. Finally she left. The next day I asked my coworker what he gave his girl. He said that they got to the room and she ordered a $20 bowl of soup and charged it to his room, so when it was time for her to go he gave her a bag of peanuts and told her to get the fuck out of his room. LOL. I told him damn, and I thought I was cold.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]That is a stategy that works for guys that live here ot otherwise spend a lot of time here and who are looking for GFE and seeing the same chick on a regular basis.

If yhe chick thinks you are just another sex tourist there is very litle incentive for her not to try and get as much out of you as quickly as possible.

So I think it would be best for guys just visiting to nail down all the details before doing the deed.

Besides the chicks that are going to give you a very low monthly rate arent very likely to even bother with guys that are in town for a week or two.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304300]
It is like mf can't you see where I am going before you accept it?[/QUOTE]Actually, I don't believe they can.

They see the destination once they start the ride.

I'm pretty sure the drivers see the destination before accepting fares. Think about it, how practical is it for a driver to accept a fare and find out when the trip starts that the destination is hundreds of miles away?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2304642]Actually, I don't believe they can.

They see the destination once they start the ride.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2304653]I'm pretty sure the drivers see the destination before accepting fares. Think about it, how practical is it for a driver to accept a fare and find out when the trip starts that the destination is hundreds of miles away?[/QUOTE]Actually, you're wrong.

This is from the UBER App Q and A: The Uber app lets passengers designate a destination, but drivers aren't privy to this information until they pick someone up ...

I’ve had drivers call me on the way to pick me up to ask my destination, then cancel because the fare wasn’t enough.

[QUOTE=Bleble;2304485]Is 150 mil overnight and multiple shots rate, or an hour rate? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Usually 2 shots 1-3 hrs.

Another way to look at it is, even if 1 shot 1 HR initially, if repeating it then becomes multiple shots multiple hours, and then overnight. Same 150 mil or less. 150 mil is a good chunk of money there. Think a weeks wage.

Unless she's a hard pro, once they become a regular everything is more generous with you and rate is negotiable.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2304465]Because they may say something lower. Prime example. My girlfriend just left for work. It will be a couple of months before I see her again. I was about to give her 100K. Before I did that she asked me for 50K because she needed to buy something. I saved myself 50K by letting her talk first. Had she asked for 300K, I could have always said I only have 100K.

Just like shopping. You don't just walk up with an offer for the stuff that is being sold. You usually ask how much a person wants for a product before you start your haggling.

Of course 150K would be greeted with acceptance, because it is too damn much! I remember when the exchange rate was 1600 pesos to the USD. Would you have been walking around all willy nilly offering chicks $93 back then? The exchange rate is 3100 now, but you never know when that mf will swing back down. And here you have gotten chicks used to getting 150K. Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Many here have reported chicks online for as low and 60K and 80K.[/QUOTE]Well Mr E since you don't share contacts. We will never know.

I would like to ask if anyone has asked a FB chica and ever been quoted anything less than 150 k because I haven't and that is when I changed my approach. Once again I think once established with them they will adjust things, pops, time, rate etc. But initially that's I think that’s the price at which FB girls will draw the line.
Esp. if you are a non spanish speaking gringo. If you are in centro and speak Spanish well, then you will have room to go lower. Certainly the casas have fixed rates and we all pretty much know what those are.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]When I said never ask I meant state your own price. Never ask her what her price is. She could give you a random number and now you got to talk her down. "Babe no tengo dinero. Solo 150 mil. And see where that gets you. 150-200 k is my limit always. It also depends on where you grabbing them. If you and gusto's. Hell yea she going to try and bust why'all balls for 500 if you in Centro. 50-80 k sure. Recognize your surroundings and haggle accordingly. Some guys pockets are deeper than others I judge no one. Pay what you can afford.

[QUOTE=Bill;2298892]Went to foreigner heaven, or New Life sala de masajes think its called.

Pretty sure these girls are spoiled by gringo behavior [/QUOTE]New Life was my spot back in 2014. Even then, I think I was late to the party as I remember I had a friend that was in Medellin a lot and he used to tell me about his escapades there. Fast forward and I've only been there once since 2014. When I was last there some random guy started asking me questions in English and I haven't been back since, even though I walk by the place all the time. Got good memories of that place though.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304728]Well Mr E since you don't share contacts. We will never know.

I would like to ask if anyone has asked a FB chica and ever been quoted anything less than 150 k because I haven't and that is when I changed my approach.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with contacts and it has nothing to do with what you are quoted. It has everything to do with what you negotiate.

Tx went to Conejitas and paid a chick the 80 K that she quoted plus a tip. When chicks in Conejitas and BE tell me 80K, I negotiate them to 60K. My last report in Maracaibo a couple of months ago I wrote something like I was quoted 60K and got her for 40K or 45K or whatever. Sure casas have set prices, but freelancers do not. If you pay the price you are given then that is on you. I would never walk onto a car lot and pay the price I am quoted when I know good and well that the price is flexible. For me that shit goes in one ear and out the other.

Some people prefer not to negotiate saying it ruins the mood. No idea how you can ruin the mood with a hooker though. She knows what she is there for, and it ain't romance.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2304728]Well Mr E since you don't share contacts. We will never know.

I would like to ask if anyone has asked a FB chica and ever been quoted anything less than 150 k because I haven't and that is when I changed my approach. Once again I think once established with them they will adjust things, pops, time, rate etc. But initially that's I think thats the price at which FB girls will draw the line.
Esp. if you are a non spanish speaking gringo. If you are in centro and speak Spanish well, then you will have room to go lower. Certainly the casas have fixed rates and we all pretty much know what those are.[/QUOTE]Ask and ye shall receive.

One FB girl, when asked, quoted me 100 k, plus taxi. Another quoted me 100 k with no mention of taxi. A third offered to bring a friend for a trio and only asked for 100 k more for the friend.

One last one, who had previously insisted on 250 k, said she would accept whatever I wanted to pay, plus taxi. She specifically said 60 k, but I paid 90 k.

There are plenty of Facebook girls who have a set price. They have enough customers that they don't need to go below that price. There are plenty of girls who change their price depending on their need, their boredom level, or how well they like you.

There are problems with telling them "this is what I pay." First, you might have found one who would take less. Also, you might have prevented any negotiation. Example: She wants to ask for 250 k, but you just stopped her at 150 k. If you let her throw out 250 k, you probably could have gotten her to 200 k, with no more for taxi, instead of the 150+20 k you want to pay.

Quick question is Hotel Nutibara close to New Life? I'm heading to Medellin for about 4 days in September and I'm looking for a hotel not too far from NL.

Interesting, I guess this is another reason I would not make it as an uber driver.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2304704]Actually, you're wrong.

This is from the UBER App Q and A: The Uber app lets passengers designate a destination, but drivers aren't privy to this information until they pick someone up ...

Ive had drivers call me on the way to pick me up to ask my destination, then cancel because the fare wasnt enough.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2305001]Quick question is Hotel Nutibara close to New Life? I'm heading to Medellin for about 4 days in September and I'm looking for a hotel not too far from NL.[/QUOTE]It's about a 10 - 15 minute walk. Are you familiar with google maps? You should be able to plug in both places.

When dealing with independent girls working out of discos or clubs prices must be negotiated beforehand. Every independent girl has a right to charge whatever she wants no matter how obsurd it is at times and we have a choice to say yes or no or counter. But never under any circumstances fuck her and pay her what you think is fair. This type of behavior will get you jailed (depending on your level of Spanish) or drugged or set up.

I just spent 15 days in Medellin and all I can say is that it just isn't the same anymore.

I'm not looking forward to going back like I did on my previous 7 trips.

Sure I fucked a couple real cute FB newbies for 150-200 mil.

The party scene is part of what I like and the independent girls are getting uglier and more expensive. So it's all going backwards.

I've picked up some hot 9's in the past and yes I may have paid a premium but I still thought it was reasonable despite what others on here may have thought. But now the prices these girls are asking for us just unreal.

I had this hottie lined up for a date and a TLN and the day before she tells me she has another client lined up for 300 usd. When we agreed on 500 mil.

When she called me the next day I told her to beat it.

Not saying it's completely done but in 15 days it was a lot harder work to get the same experiences I got in the past.

So recently something has definitely changed.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2305149]When dealing with independent girls working out of discos or clubs prices must be negotiated beforehand. Every independent girl has a right to charge whatever she wants no matter how obsurd it is at times and we have a choice to say yes or no or counter. But never under any circumstances fuck her and pay her what you think is fair. This type of behavior will get you jailed (depending on your level of Spanish) or drugged or set up.

I just spent 15 days in Medellin and all I can say is that it just isn't the same anymore.

I'm not looking forward to going back like I did on my previous 7 trips.

Sure I fucked a couple real cute FB newbies for 150-200 mil.

The party scene is part of what I like and the independent girls are getting uglier and more expensive. So it's all going backwards.

I've picked up some hot 9's in the past and yes I may have paid a premium but I still thought it was reasonable despite what others on here may have thought. But now the prices these girls are asking for us just unreal.

I had this hottie lined up for a date and a TLN and the day before she tells me she has another client lined up for 300 usd. When we agreed on 500 mil.

When she called me the next day I told her to beat it.

Not saying it's completely done but in 15 days it was a lot harder work to get the same experiences I got in the past.

So recently something has definitely changed.[/QUOTE]I've been saying this for a few years now. It's just not the same. Fatter and more expensive LOL.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2305149]

I just spent 15 days in Medellin and all I can say is that it just isn't the same anymore.

I'm not looking forward to going back like I did on my previous 7 trips.

Sure I fucked a couple real cute FB newbies for 150-200 mil.

The party scene is part of what I like and the independent girls are getting uglier and more expensive. So it's all going backwards.

I've picked up some hot 9's in the past and yes I may have paid a premium but I still thought it was reasonable despite what others on here may have thought. But now the prices these girls are asking for us just unreal.

I had this hottie lined up for a date and a TLN and the day before she tells me she has another client lined up for 300 usd. When we agreed on 500 mil.

[/QUOTE]That's crazy but I'm sure the guy paying $300 dollars thinks it's reasonable as well and doesn't care what others think.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2305149]we agreed on 500 mil.
[/QUOTE]500? She must be a 10 to be demanding that much. I'd be surprised if the $300 usd was true. She likely had plans with her friends and was hoping to price gauge you.

I just spent 15 days in Medellin and all I can say is that it just isn't the same anymore.

I'm not looking forward to going back like I did on my previous 7 trips.

Forgive me if I'm misquoting you. But didn't you post recently saying that the girls in MDE were hotter than ever and the competition was fierce? If so. What changed your opinion in such a short amount of time?

I've also been to MDE several times and the last time I was there was my least favorite experience. Seems that gringos are kinda ruining the scene (as they did in DR). Have you been to Cali? How would you compare the scene there to MDE as I've heard Cali is still largely unscathed by gringos LOL.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2304760]New Life was my spot back in 2014. Even then, I think I was late to the party as I remember I had a friend that was in Medellin a lot and he used to tell me about his escapades there. Fast forward and I've only been there once since 2014. When I was last there some random guy started asking me questions in English and I haven't been back since, even though I walk by the place all the time. Got good memories of that place though.[/QUOTE]Like the newbie on this forum that gave out 10 k tips to his taxi guy and casa girls. Its not necessary or normal to give more money after an agreement for special services has already been discussed.

Could he possibly work with an NGO and wants to eliminate global poverty?

"When in Rome do as the Romans do" "we're not in Kansas any more Toto" "Go back to el plobado mfrs"

Still a few west coast guys with their flip flops and shorts walking together in side streets of centro thinking they are safe in pairs, LOL.

Locals wait till they pass then stare and talk about them. I saw one guy look to his partner and they seemed to get ready to follow.

Could be these extranjeros were looking to score drugs or sight see maybe both?

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2305001]Quick question is Hotel Nutibara close to New Life? I'm heading to Medellin for about 4 days in September and I'm looking for a hotel not too far from NL.[/QUOTE]Approx 900 m and 11 min walk.

I just spent 21 days in Colombia, 17 in Medellin and 4 in Bogota. I have no idea what the $500 Usd thing is about, but I wouldn't pay it or entertain it. I spent countless hours in Centro and this trip I learned a ton about the girls and the going rates. The longer you stay in Medellin the cheaper the girls become, why, because they see you everyday and they are willing to cut the priced down to nearly nothing, especially if you pic of girls in parque Botero or as they call it in Centro Plaza Botero. I walked countless hours in vera cruz and was able to meet some new chics and now I know that if you know your surroundings in centro and you decide to hang around the church where the tranny hang, you will also see that there are many girls who do not hang on the Veracruz side but near the church on that through street or carrerra. I found many girls there for an extremely low rate. The best new phrase that I have learned that will most definitely cut your prices down is cuanto cuesta por un rato contigo, translates to how much do you charge for some time with you. Near the church and the side opposite with Veracruz most of the girls were quoting me 30 mil for short time. So then I did one better and asked would they come back to my room for an hour and most every girl in the park on the side opposite of Veracruz said yes, but now the rate was 50 mil for an hour. Are you serious, an entire hour for 50 mil? So once I got them back to the room and I upped the stakes a little more, for BBBJ and CIM, I the asked them what would the rate be if I decided to keep them for 2 hours and sure enough, most girls said 80 mil, BBBJ with CIM for 80 mil, so now I'm shocked like a stripped electrical cord.

Every day I would walk over to parque Botero, and sit on the benches until I found what interested me, and the I would approach the girl and ask for a rate, and no one would ever start out over $30 mil for short time. One day I was sitting in the parque Botero and I got a 3 for 1. I planned on banging a older chic this trip cause I just wanted to see what these older chics were like as many still have a nice shape and I wanted to test the waters. I also wanted to bang a tall chic this trip as I always see some very tall chics hanging around in Veracruz and parque Botero. One day about 5 pm Medellin time, a tall chic came through with some caramel brown skin and she absolutely caught my eye, as she was a little older but she didn't look bad at all, plus she was about 6'1", what would the chances be, that she was older than 50 and was six feet tall. Well she was and get this, after our first date, she informs me that her daughter works in the park as well. So I was a little skeptical so I asked her, who's the tallest, you or your daughter, she replied me. I said that I don't think I want to see your daughter then, but this chic insisted that I meet her daughter? Well after the date, I walked her back to the parque Botero and she called her daughter and what do you know, the daughter was much whiter than the mother but she was about 5'10" tall and had a bubble butt a little bit bigger than the mother. The mother suggested that I date them both, so I was like sure, whatever. Before long, I was seeing the mother and the daughter daily for $120 mil together for like 4 hours daily. I have no idea if they liked being in my room and enjoying the TV and cable of my firestick, but they would both take turns banging me everyday from 4:30 pm to 10 pm, we would often go to dinner together every night before my girlfriend would return from the university.

I won't fill the thread up with one long post, I will try and post something daily about many events that I had over my 21 day stay, I will post a pic of the mother daughter duo shortly. I actually had a pretty good routine down for my stay, I would make my girlfriend leave at about 2:30-3:00 pm, then a chic would come over for a session, then the mother and daughter duo would come over from 5 p-10 pm and then the girlfriend would return from the university. I had much money left over from the trip and I clearly see if you speak spanish, and you interact with the people in the parque and they see your face daily, the prices drop dramatically. I barely spent $400 mil daily and banged no less than 4 chics daily for my entire trip. I have no idea how Laurales and Poblado work, but Centro and Vera Cruz and Parque Botero, I really have a new insight into how things work in that area. Pollo Negro is out!

Maybe Suriname is the new frontier. Anyway, my standards must be very low because I have no trouble finding what I want at prices WAY below what I sometimes see here.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2305248]I just spent 15 days in Medellin and all I can say is that it just isn't the same anymore.

I'm not looking forward to going back like I did on my previous 7 trips.

Forgive me if I'm misquoting you. But didn't you post recently saying that the girls in MDE were hotter than ever and the competition was fierce? If so. What changed your opinion in such a short amount of time?

I've also been to MDE several times and the last time I was there was my least favorite experience. Seems that gringos are kinda ruining the scene (as they did in DR). Have you been to Cali? How would you compare the scene there to MDE as I've heard Cali is still largely unscathed by gringos LOL.[/QUOTE]

It's been raining almost every day and I was about to just chill in my apartment but then decided to hit a casa. I believe the name of the spot was Sexi. Anyway, they had a nice lineup and I had about 3 in mind but decided to go with my initial instinct. It turned out to be a good choice. The girl was super sweet and we made small talk going to the room.

When we got inside, I began to undress. While I was taking my pants off, I felt her come up behind me and grab my cock and start rubbing it while I still had my underwear on. When I turn around, she pulled down my underwear and kissed my cock. I went to lie on the bed and she grabbed my cock like she was going to do a BBBJ but then reached for the condom. I asked about a BBBJ and she said she doesn't do that. I was rubbing her body and I noticed she kept staring at my cock. She then told me she would do a BBBJ if I gave her a propina. We agreed on 20 mil. The BBBJ was good. She took me to the sink and washed it and then got on her knees and dried it with a towel and started licking my balls and sucking my cock. We took it to the bed and she continued.

After a while she put the condom on and rode me doggy style. She then wanted to stop and put he feet up on my chest with her knees bent while we fucked. She said she loved that position. We fucked in a few different positions. The whole time she was talking to me with that sexy paisa accent and telling me how she loved my cock and she wanted it all to herself. I had to stop once or twice because the shit she was saying and the way she was saying it while kissing my neck was making me want to bust. Finally, I couldn't take it anymore. The soldiers were lining up and filling my rod so I pulled out right as I was about to cum, pulled the rubber off and shot my wad all over her.

I thought about getting her WhatsApp, but I've done that in the past and never wind up calling the girls because there are so many new ones to try. I definitely want to repeat with her though at some point. She told me she was new and just trying this place out so I don't know how long she will be there. She doesn't have kids and has a nice body and beautiful face.

When I left I walked around and did some shopping. I then stoped around parque Botero. I started talking to a girl who was leaving her job in a shoe store. She gave me her facebook (doesn't have a cell) and told me to write her. After sitting for awhile and people watching, I decided to get up and take a few pics. A pretty girl walked up to me and asked for 200 pesos. I asked her why was she asking for that. I guess that is her opener because she asked me where I was from and we began to talk. I asked her what she was doing there and she said she was working. I asked her about her work and she said she was "haciendo ratitos con hombres. " I told her maybe another day and asked how much she would charge me and she said 30 mil. She also called over another babe that was working and introduced me. I may look into those options in the future.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2305248]
I've also been to MDE several times and the last time I was there was my least favorite experience. Seems that gringos are kinda ruining the scene (as they did in DR). [/QUOTE]I know gringos that live in Cali. More are starting to go there as well, but it is no where near what has happened here. In fact, some of the guys started off in Medellin then moved to Cali to get away from the Medellin gringos they say LOL.

Amigas Sexxy is a good value when you find a nice looking girl. They have nice clean rooms and don't charge any more than crusty places like [URL]chicaspunto.com[/URL] or Paris Club.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2305395]It's been raining almost every day and I was about to just chill in my apartment but then decided to hit a casa. I believe the name of the spot was Sexi. Anyway, they had a nice lineup and I had about 3 in mind but decided to go with my initial instinct. It turned out to be a good choice. The girl was super sweet and we made small talk going to the room.

When we got inside, I began to undress. While I was taking my pants off, I felt her come up behind me and grab my cock and start rubbing it while I still had my underwear on. When I turn around, she pulled down my underwear and kissed my cock. I went to lie on the bed and she grabbed my cock like she was going to do a BBBJ but then reached for the condom. I asked about a BBBJ and she said she doesn't do that. I was rubbing her body and I noticed she kept staring at my cock. She then told me she would do a BBBJ if I gave her a propina. We agreed on 20 mil. The BBBJ was good. She took me to the sink and washed it and then got on her knees and dried it with a towel and started licking my balls and sucking my cock. We took it to the bed and she continued.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2305362]I just spent 21 days in Colombia, 17 in Medellin and 4 in Bogota. I have no idea what the $500 Usd thing is about, but I wouldn't pay it or entertain it. I spent countless hours in Centro and this trip I learned a ton about the girls and the going rates. The longer you stay in Medellin the cheaper the girls become, why, because they see you everyday and they are willing to cut the priced down to nearly nothing, especially if you pic of girls in parque Botero or as they call it in Centro Plaza Botero. I walked countless hours in vera cruz and was able to meet some new chics and now I know that if you know your surroundings in centro and you decide to hang around the church where the tranny hang, you will also see that there are many girls who do not hang on the Veracruz side but near the church on that through street or carrerra. I found many girls there for an extremely low rate. The best new phrase that I have learned that will most definitely cut your prices down is cuanto cuesta por un rato contigo, translates to how much do you charge for some time with you. Near the church and the side opposite with Veracruz most of the girls were quoting me 30 mil for short time. So then I did one better and asked would they come back to my room for an hour and most every girl in the park on the side opposite of Veracruz said yes, but now the rate was 50 mil for an hour. Are you serious, an entire hour for 50 mil? So once I got them back to the room and I upped the stakes a little more, for BBBJ and CIM, I the asked them what would the rate be if I decided to keep them for 2 hours and sure enough, most girls said 80 mil, BBBJ with CIM for 80 mil, so now I'm shocked like a stripped electrical cord.

Every day I would walk over to parque Botero, and sit on the benches until I found what interested me, and the I would approach the girl and ask for a rate, and no one would ever start out over $30 mil for short time. One day I was sitting in the parque Botero and I got a 3 for 1. I planned on banging a older chic this trip cause I just wanted to see what these older chics were like as many still have a nice shape and I wanted to test the waters. I also wanted to bang a tall chic this trip as I always see some very tall chics hanging around in Veracruz and parque Botero. One day about 5 pm Medellin time, a tall chic came through with some caramel brown skin and she absolutely caught my eye, as she was a little older but she didn't look bad at all, plus she was about 6'1", what would the chances be, that she was older than 50 and was six feet tall. Well she was and get this, after our first date, she informs me that her daughter works in the park as well. So I was a little skeptical so I asked her, who's the tallest, you or your daughter, she replied me. I said that I don't think I want to see your daughter then, but this chic insisted that I meet her daughter? Well after the date, I walked her back to the parque Botero and she called her daughter and what do you know, the daughter was much whiter than the mother but she was about 5'10" tall and had a bubble butt a little bit bigger than the mother. The mother suggested that I date them both, so I was like sure, whatever. Before long, I was seeing the mother and the daughter daily for $120 mil together for like 4 hours daily. I have no idea if they liked being in my room and enjoying the TV and cable of my firestick, but they would both take turns banging me everyday from 4:30 pm to 10 pm, we would often go to dinner together every night before my girlfriend would return from the university.

I won't fill the thread up with one long post, I will try and post something daily about many events that I had over my 21 day stay, I will post a pic of the mother daughter duo shortly. I actually had a pretty good routine down for my stay, I would make my girlfriend leave at about 2:30-3:00 pm, then a chic would come over for a session, then the mother and daughter duo would come over from 5 p-10 pm and then the girlfriend would return from the university. I had much money left over from the trip and I clearly see if you speak spanish, and you interact with the people in the parque and they see your face daily, the prices drop dramatically. I barely spent $400 mil daily and banged no less than 4 chics daily for my entire trip. I have no idea how Laurales and Poblado work, but Centro and Vera Cruz and Parque Botero, I really have a new insight into how things work in that area. Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]Shhhhhhh! El Centro is dangerous.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2305395]I thought about getting her WhatsApp, but I've done that in the past and never wind up calling the girls because there are so many new ones to try.[/QUOTE]I do the same damn shit; hardly ever repeat with hookers. It really gets under my skin when people ask for some chick's contact info in a big ass mongering place like Medellin, as if it was some pussy desert. I'm like there are thousands of chicks to choose from when you hit the ground. Just like you met 3 new chicks right after you did not get the Whatsapp of the chick that you sessioned with. The shit is too easy.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2305414]Shhhhhhh! El Centro is dangerous.[/QUOTE]If he keeps letting the cat out of the bag, those Poblado guys will come over and ruin it for us. Soon our centro chicks will be asking us for 500K too!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2305419]If he keeps letting the cat out of the bag, those Poblado guys will come over and ruin it for us. Soon our centro chicks will be asking us for 500K too![/QUOTE]Fact, and I was so shocked that they only wanted $120 mil everyday for both, I always took them to dinner and allowed them to hang out with me to nearly 10 pm everyday because my girlfriend would return around 10:30-11:00 pm. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2305419]If he keeps letting the cat out of the bag, those Poblado guys will come over and ruin it for us. Soon our centro chicks will be asking us for 500K too![/QUOTE]OK what's the play for El centro. I don't want to die and I will be alone. My Spanish is limited but I got game. 34 black guy from Chicago so I'm used to rough areas. Grew on the Southside but I'm not taking it for granted. How does a solo guy survive there without getting robbed and drugged or killed. I'm usually in the palbaldo area. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2305396]I know gringos that live in Cali. More are starting to go there as well, but it is no where near what has happened here. In fact, some of the guys started off in Medellin then moved to Cali to get away from the Medellin gringos they say LOL.[/QUOTE]They will soon find their way there. More and more gringos are discovering the treasures of Colombia. Seasoned mongers will soon have to relocate to more remote towns and villages.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2305550]They will soon find their way there. More and more gringos are discovering the treasures of Colombia. Seasoned mongers will soon have to relocate to more remote towns and villages.[/QUOTE]I know of one remote town near Medellin. But I'm not telling.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2305476]OK what's the play for El centro. I don't want to die and I will be alone. My Spanish is limited but I got game. 34 black guy from Chicago so I'm used to rough areas. Grew on the Southside but I'm not taking it for granted. How does a solo guy survive there without getting robbed and drugged or killed. I'm usually in the palbaldo area. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have spent about a month in Centro in 4 trips in the last 2 years. Stay on the big busy roads, dress like the natives or like you are otw to Home Depot to get some lumber, don't flaunt any wealth, keep your cellphone in your pocket, don't use your back pockets, take copy of passport and just the money you need for that day. At night don't walk far, just take cabs. As to don't get drugged, keep a eye on your drink and let bartenders only make them for you.

I spent some time on Google Street View checking out routes, you can see what streets look safer and which ones look sketchy. I pick a hotel right between the 3 major strip clubs there so I never have to walk further then a block and half at night, during the day I feel safe on the main busy roads and the commercial walking streets like Paseo Junin.

Between the Redlight blocks and strip clubs and Casa's you will have 100's of women to choose from and much cheaper food and lodging then Poblado.

Easter seems to fall on different days in different countries. Is Easter Sunday 4/21 in Colombia? If so I would assume that whole weekend is not going to be a good time to visit given that everyone is observing holiday. But it seems like next weekend (4/12-4/14) is just as busy. Any insight on what days to avoid (due to holiday) would be much appreciated!

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2305673]Easter seems to fall on different days in different countries. Is Easter Sunday 4/21 in Colombia? If so I would assume that whole weekend is not going to be a good time to visit given that everyone is observing holiday. But it seems like next weekend (4/12-4/14) is just as busy. Any insight on what days to avoid (due to holiday) would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]Easter in Colombia is the same day as Easter in the US. However, the week before Easter is also full of various related celebrations. There will still be options available, but there will be less options.

[QUOTE=Bill;2305330]Like the newbie on this forum that gave out 10 k tips to his taxi guy and casa girls. Its not necessary or normal to give more money after an agreement for special services has already been discussed.[/QUOTE]I was in Barranquilla the other day leaving this chick and going back to my hotel. I called an Uber. The guy that picked me up asked me if he could take me to the airport whenever I was going. I told him that I was going tonight but he would probably be sleep. He said what time. I said I would leave at 2am. He said man I work 24 hours. I said okay how much will you charge me? He said 30K. That is the same as a normal taxi so I said okay. We traded whatsapps.

He came at 1:30 that night in his pajamas. I already had 40K set aside to give him. An extra 10K because of the late hour. When we got to the airport I handed him the money and got out. I am like 40 feet away when he yells out my name and waves me back to the car. I go over and he says here is your 10K change.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2305476]OK what's the play for El centro. I don't want to die and I will be alone. My Spanish is limited but I got game. 34 black guy from Chicago so I'm used to rough areas. Grew on the Southside but I'm not taking it for granted. How does a solo guy survive there without getting robbed and drugged or killed. I'm usually in the palbaldo area. Thanks.[/QUOTE]If you're used to rough areas, you'll in all likelihood be fine. Just be aware of who's around you (which you're probably used to doing). FWIW, I hit Centro at least once every trip and now and then I've found some gems, but I prefer the general environment in Poblado, Laureles, or Envigado. El Centro is really not a place I'd want to stay in for an extended time.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2305673]Easter seems to fall on different days in different countries. Is Easter Sunday 4/21 in Colombia? If so I would assume that whole weekend is not going to be a good time to visit given that everyone is observing holiday. But it seems like next weekend (4/12-4/14) is just as busy. Any insight on what days to avoid (due to holiday) would be much appreciated![/QUOTE]Catholic and Protestant Easter is the same day anywhere in the World. The Greek Orthodox Easter sometimes falls on a different day.

Thursday through Sunday of Holy Week is usually pretty dry. If you have a few favorites, line up plans ahead of time.

Haha good one, the gringos can discover all they want about Colombia, but there's still parts that are relatively uncharteted and untainted. The gringos can have all of Medellin if they want. Me, Dcfan77 and some of the regulars will find our own non gringo niche.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2305590]I know of one remote town near Medellin. But I'm not telling.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2305590]I know of one remote town near Medellin. But I'm not telling.[/QUOTE]Dumbest post ever.

I had no knowledge of this forum before, but when telling my story they recommended it to me and I think it's worth telling in case someone is thinking about this girl too. Isa VIP [URL]https://pasionprepagos.com/escorts/isa-vip32099118[/URL] this girl in El Poblado.

Although it is not the first time that I am with an escort, I do not usually do it as often as I would like for reasons of time and work. A friend of mine showed me Isa and was amazed with the photos.

However, after my experience I would tell you to be with her at your own risk.

The normal contact, she told me everything via whatsap and we agreed to see each other in the afternoon. I arrived in my car, I went up, everything without problem. Although in her description she said that the apartment was private, there were many people hanging around the building. I had already been told that there are apparently more women there who do the same. In any case, I was still very animated.

It opened, I imagined it better, it did not leave me surprised, although for the time, it's fine. She had a lingerie set, I paid for it in advance. I did not request anything out of the ordinary, nor anal and everything with a condom. I asked her for a bath to clean up a bit and when I left I undressed, she arrived a while and we started.

She put the condom on me and started sucking it well. I did not feel that she put all the effort of the world and nothing of deep throat. After a while I got so hot from observing and we started as a missionary, neither moaned nor even the slightest expression of pleasure. So I put her 4 better to see her ass and there if I could cum.

Because she also told me not to kiss and nothing to come on her face or on her tits. That left me bored.

I do not know if someone else has been with her, she had a bad day or she just does not enjoy her job as much as others. I would not repeat or recommend it. Although if she has a great body and the place is clean, she does not smell bad or anything. However I expected something more for the price. I paid 180 thousand COP for an hour and a few more minutes, I did not look at the clock either.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2305665]I have spent about a month in Centro in 4 trips in the last 2 years. Stay on the big busy roads, dress like the natives or like you are otw to Home Depot to get some lumber, don't flaunt any wealth, keep your cellphone in your pocket, don't use your back pockets, take copy of passport and just the money you need for that day. At night don't walk far, just take cabs. As to don't get drugged, keep a eye on your drink and let bartenders only make them for you.

I spent some time on Google Street View checking out routes, you can see what streets look safer and which ones look sketchy. I pick a hotel right between the 3 major strip clubs there so I never have to walk further then a block and half at night, during the day I feel safe on the main busy roads and the commercial walking streets like Paseo Junin.

Between the Redlight blocks and strip clubs and Casa's you will have 100's of women to choose from and much cheaper food and lodging then Poblado.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. How am I supposed to dress like a local there LOL I'm a black guy I would stick out like a sore thumb. I figure if I just wear a black hoodie and sweatpants I would be fine.

That's true enough. In fact, in Medellin itself there are casas where gringos are rarely seen and others well you know.

My unscientific theory is that it boils down to interest in connecting with people who are unfamiliar. In Colombia and elsewhere certain foreign visitors and residents tend to flock to certain venues, cities, service providers and even hotels. They are people who want to be around people like themselves. Certain other travelers gravitate to what they don't already know. I can understand both mentalities. I used to struggle with the logic of spending time and money to travel thousands of miles only to pay premiums to avoid everything that isn't like back home. I understand it better now because I accept it for what it is. Everybody has to find their happy place.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2305757]Haha good one, the gringos can discover all they want about Colombia, but there's still parts that are relatively uncharteted and untainted. The gringos can have all of Medellin if they want. Me, Dcfan77 and some of the regulars will find our own non gringo niche.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2305757]Haha good one, the gringos can discover all they want about Colombia, but there's still parts that are relatively uncharteted and untainted. The gringos can have all of Medellin if they want. Me, Dcfan77 and some of the regulars will find our own non gringo niche.[/QUOTE]My experience says go to a major city that attracts girls from the countryside. Colombia is really starting to look good. I can't wait for my trip in May to Medellin and Bogota. Especially now with the Venezuelan factor. Sounds like a gold mine of cheap pussy. I'll leave the remote areas of Medellin to the gringos that want to isolate themselves.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2305888]Dumbest post ever.[/QUOTE]Medellin is hardly oversaturated as of yet. Everybody is always debating Centro versus Poblado when there are at least 30 places in Laureles and Belen which are hardly ever mentioned except for Tantra and Energy Spas. I do agree that Centro and Poblado have a better vibe for tourists. Laureles and Belen are more middle class whereas in Centro you can find the inexpensive and in Poblado you can find the high end.

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[QUOTE=Starlord1;2305900]Thanks for the advice. How am I supposed to dress like a local there LOL I'm a black guy I would stick out like a sore thumb. I figure if I just wear a black hoodie and sweatpants I would be fine.[/QUOTE]I'd suggest jeans and a t-short or local sports Jersey but what you said won't be too out of place.

Colombia racial makeup is 10% black so you won't really stand out too much because of that.

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_Colombia[/URL]

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2305900]Thanks for the advice. How am I supposed to dress like a local there LOL I'm a black guy I would stick out like a sore thumb. I figure if I just wear a black hoodie and sweatpants I would be fine.[/QUOTE]Locals dress in blue jeans and T-shirt. Don't wear jewelry. And you will blend right in. You do know they're black Colombians right? Smh.

I sorta took it as a sarcastic post instead of a literal one, but what do I know.

[QUOTE=Jooks;2305888]Dumbest post ever.[/QUOTE]

I must say that I had no problem at all finding chicas to perform 3 some in Centro. I had about 6 or 7 on my last trip, one thing I can tell you about the 3 some game is this, make sure you set the rules and try not to get close family members or it becomes like a 2 and a half-some, one chic after the other and the changing the condoms between each other, you can go through 5-6 condoms on one 3 some with 2 sisters or mother and daughter action.

Like I said before, if you spend 3 weeks to 3 months in Medellin, the prices of sessions drop dramatically, my entire 21 day trip was extremely nice except for the upper respiratory tract infection that I obtained. I was able to get meds at the pharmacy to treat it, but the girls were as lovely as ever. Between the casas, the WGs, Parque Botero, and Vera Cruz, you can find what you are looking for at the price that you desire, it may take a little work and hanging around, but the girls and the prices are available.

On another note, I saw lot of MILFs and GILFs in Vera Cruz, but this was kind of strange, many of the MILFs and GILFs will not particularly take a cita with a younger guy. My wingman was with me on many trips and many of the MILFs would not respond to his advances or come when he or I would call them. So when I started hanging with the tall chica I asked why? Her response was that the older chicas do not want to have a long session with a younger guy, they would rather deal with older guys that may get off faster and do less damage to the kitty? Might be true, who know, I just know that many of the MILFs would not respond to me or my wingman when we approached them.

Personally, I don't think that the quality of girls in Medellin will decrease or the price will increase anytime soon, I think the prices will only increase in tourist areas. As long as the gringos are afraid of centro, the prices will never go up. I will continue to leave informative post as I think about events that occurred while on my visit that can be useful to other members. I have so many things to inform on, I just have to find the time to remember it and to write it all down in a post. Pollo Negro is out!

I hit up a few party spots last couple weekends. I like to change things up, so I'll do the infamous Parque Lleras scene to meet and greet my fellow gringos, go to la 70 for some Vallenato, la 33 for cocktails, Parque Sabaeta to chillax, la Bota en Envigado for crossover music, las Palmahias for some techno / edm and go Fast / Furious 9,10, and 11 in la 45 in Manrique and Obrero in Bello, where you can do whatever the fuck you want LOL, within reason of course. Not sure how I survived those weekends, but I did. Usually, I'll ask girls where are the best party spots and whichever place they name, I've already been there. So I try to find new spots, but now I'm kinda running out venues. Guess I'm more paisa than I thought or I just like to fucking party haha.

Only drawback was the rain, but those rainy days were my recovery days. Anyways, one thing for sure is that you will always find a spot to party in Medellin. Just make sure to be careful as always and don't be that guy who thinks he's the shit.

You've listed just about every place I know also. Only one additional idea. Calle 93 in Aranjuez. VIP 212. Orgasmo Cafe. There is also a place that plays gringo music, but there are never any gringos in the place (other than me). I have always enjoyed Aranjuez. I almost never see other gringos around.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2306071]I hit up a few party spots last couple weekends. I like to change things up, so I'll do the infamous Parque Lleras scene to meet and greet my fellow gringos, go to la 70 for some Vallenato, la 33 for cocktails, Parque Sabaeta to chillax, la Bota en Envigado for crossover music, las Palmahias for some techno / edm and go Fast / Furious 9,10, and 11 in la 45 in Manrique and Obrero in Bello, where you can do whatever the fuck you want LOL, within reason of course. Not sure how I survived those weekends, but I did. Usually, I'll ask girls where are the best party spots and whichever place they name, I've already been there. So I try to find new spots, but now I'm kinda running out venues. Guess I'm more paisa than I thought or I just like to fucking party haha.

Only drawback was the rain, but those rainy days were my recovery days. Anyways, one thing for sure is that you will always find a spot to party in Medellin. Just make sure to be careful as always and don't be that guy who thinks he's the shit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2305362]The longer you stay in Medellin the cheaper the girls become, why, because they see you everyday and they are willing to cut the priced down to nearly nothing, especially if you pic of girls in parque Botero or as they call it in Centro Plaza Botero. [/QUOTE]Hey PolloNegro, first excuse me that we did not meet up as we had talked earlier this year, I wifed up for almost 3 weeks with a costena that I met in centro and traveled and had more sex in those 3 weeks than I use to have in a whole year, jejejeje.

Your comment about girls and pricing is spot on, I live in Medellin most of the year and the girls know that when they really need some help they can count on me, we are not talking big money here more like they have some immediate bill that they must pay like 50 or 60 mil and so I help them out and what I usually get in return is phenomenal.

Why anyone pays more than 200 mil for even multiple hours is stupid, I get it that we all have different sized pockets but come on.

The Tall Man.

Good to know, only been to Aranjuez in passing, but never checked out their party scene. Calle 93 will be my next spot to conquer my friend.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2306076]You've listed just about every place I know also. Only one additional idea. Calle 93 in Aranjuez. VIP 212. Orgasmo Cafe. There is also a place that plays gringo music, but there are never any gringos in the place (other than me). I have always enjoyed Aranjuez. I almost never see other gringos around.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2306046]Locals dress in blue jeans and T-shirt. Don't wear jewelry. And you will blend right in. You do know they're black Colombians right? Smh.[/QUOTE]That was a very. Non thought out question. Of course I know that. I'm not their kind of black. You must not be black. There's Latin black, African black. Caribbean black we came in different shades and bone structure. I definitely do not look Latin black at all.

Quick question. Is it better to go down to Medellin with USD or should I exchange everything beforehand? If exchanging where should I do it? Appreciate it in advance.

I'm seeing posts about rates and I'm a little confused. 200 k and 200 mil, are they the same or nah? Pardon my ignorance I'm used to going to Costa Rica not Medellin.

The six figure fees are more than anyone needs to pay. I won't criticize anyone for doing it. Some of the rationalizations are out there - - these are better looking girls, they stay with me for hours, etc. I'm pretty much numb to it. Until I hear about the taxi fares on top of it. It's not for me, pick any reason. I'm cheap, my standards are low, whatever.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2306081]Hey PolloNegro, first excuse me that we did not meet up as we had talked earlier this year, I wifed up for almost 3 weeks with a costena that I met in centro and traveled and had more sex in those 3 weeks than I use to have in a whole year, jejejeje.

Your comment about girls and pricing is spot on, I live in Medellin most of the year and the girls know that when they really need some help they can count on me, we are not talking big money here more like they have some immediate bill that they must pay like 50 or 60 mil and so I help them out and what I usually get in return is phenomenal.

Why anyone pays more than 200 mil for even multiple hours is stupid, I get it that we all have different sized pockets but come on.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

I have a soft spot for Luna Lunera.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2305972]Medellin is hardly oversaturated as of yet. Everybody is always debating Centro versus Poblado when there are at least 30 places in Laureles and Belen which are hardly ever mentioned except for Tantra and Energy Spas. I do agree that Centro and Poblado have a better vibe for tourists. Laureles and Belen are more middle class whereas in Centro you can find the inexpensive and in Poblado you can find the high end.

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Maybe I should add Luna Lunera.

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[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2306104]I'm seeing posts about rates and I'm a little confused. 200 k and 200 mil, are they the same or nah? Pardon my ignorance I'm used to going to Costa Rica not Medellin.[/QUOTE]Mil is thousand in Spanish. K is an international abbreviation for thousand. So yes, they are the same.

Easy to convert to US dollars or close. Just knock off the last 3 zeros. (the mil or K) and divide by 3.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2306097]That was a very. Non thought out question. Of course I know that. I'm not their kind of black. You must not be black. There's Latin black, African black. Caribbean black we came in different shades and bone structure. I definitely do not look Latin black at all.[/QUOTE]I can pass for African American, I often get accused of being Jamaican, truth is, I'm Puerto Rican and I have seen a few Afro Colombians who looked just like me. Your clothes will give you away, plus they have a hidden structure system there, they will know that you are not from Colombia. Funny thing is this, most Colombians are super surprised at how well I speak spanish, to them, I don't look as though I speak spanish and I clearly understand everything they say, even when they try and use slang. So don't be surprised to find out you may look more Colombian than you imagine! Pollo negro is out!

Hi,

Any recommendation for a 6 hour lay over? Any good places near airport?

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2306097]That was a very. Non thought out question. Of course I know that. I'm not their kind of black. You must not be black. There's Latin black, African black. Caribbean black we came in different shades and bone structure. I definitely do not look Latin black at all.[/QUOTE]Please explain the difference between African look and Black Americans. I hope you know that Africa is a very diverse continent, if not the most diverse. I know Black Latinos are just confused about what race actually is, so lets just give them a pass. But to get to the point, money is more important than your race.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2306102]Quick question. Is it better to go down to Medellin with USD or should I exchange everything beforehand? If exchanging where should I do it? Appreciate it in advance.[/QUOTE]Your best friend is an ATM. USD is generally not accepted and exchanges give terrible rates. Read through the forum, lots more posts on this.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2306263]Please explain the difference between African look and Black Americans. I hope you know that Africa is a very diverse continent, if not the most diverse. I know Black Latinos are just confused about what race actually is, so lets just give them a pass. But to get to the point, money is more important than your race.[/QUOTE]Probably the same way they can tell when you are out with a chick that is a hooker or a chick that is not a hooker.

Last week I spent time in Bogota, Melgar (many Colombians wearing shorts and flip flops despite people here saying they don't), and Barranquilla. I am Black American and speak Spanish. Nobody confused me for a Colombian. Before I could open my mouth they would already be trying to speak English with me.

It is the same when I go to Ghana, Senegal, or South Africa. Everyone knows that I am a Black American. Nobody in Accra, Dakar, or Durban has ever confused me with being an African. That blending in shit is a myth. If you are not from there then you are not blending in to shit, no matter how much you want to think you are.

P. S. Colombians even know Venezuelans from Colombians and they used to be the same damn country. So if you are not from around there then nobody is confusing you for being from around there.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2306283]Probably the same way they can tell when you are out with a chick that is a hooker or a chick that is not a hooker.

Last week I spent time in Bogota, Melgar (many Colombians wearing shorts and flip flops despite people here saying they don't), and Barranquilla. I am Black American and speak Spanish. Nobody confused me for a Colombian. Before I could open my mouth they would already be trying to speak English with me.

It is the same when I go to Ghana, Senegal, or South Africa. Everyone knows that I am a Black American. Nobody in Accra, Dakar, or Durban has ever confused me with being an African. That blending in shit is a myth. If you are not from there then you are not blending in to shit, no matter how much you want to think you are.

P. S. Colombians even know Venezuelans from Colombians and they used to be the same damn country. So if you are not from around there then nobody is confusing you for being from around there.[/QUOTE]Thank you brother LOL. Ain't no blending in LOL. I don't even try LOL they know yo ass a gringo. Regardless if I speak Spanish or not. LOL. My black ass will try my best to not look wealthy and watch my 6 that's it. If a fool wants to try it. Whelp let's go.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2306102]Quick question. Is it better to go down to Medellin with USD or should I exchange everything beforehand? If exchanging where should I do it? Appreciate it in advance.[/QUOTE]I was in Medellin last month. I got an average of 3150p/$ out of ATM's and the exchange rate was posted at 2850. I use a Schwab debit card which refunds any reign transaction fees, so use a ATM card similar to the Schwab with no ATM or foreign transaction fees.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2306104]I'm seeing posts about rates and I'm a little confused. 200 k and 200 mil, are they the same or nah? Pardon my ignorance I'm used to going to Costa Rica not Medellin.[/QUOTE]"K" is a North American (and maybe wider) abbreviation for "thousand". "Mil" is the Spanish word for "thousand". So $200 k and $200 mil are the same.

It has occurred to me that a monger can determine the health of a provider during foreplay by examining her vaginal discharge. This could assist said monger in determining whether to indulge in non covered activity such as BBFS, BBBJ or DATY. The below mentioned information should be of assistance:

Clear discharge = Healthy.

Grey discharge = Vaginal vaginosis.

Pink discharge = cervical bleeding.

Yellow / Green discharge = bacterial infection or sexually transmitted infection. There also may be an odor associated with it.

Brown discharge = This could be a sign of uterine or cervical cancer. Additionally, during menopause, a woman should not have any type of vaginal bleeding, which is also a sign of uterine cancer.

Red discharge = Menstruation, cervical infection, cervical polyp, endometrial or cervical cancer.

Thick, White cottage cheese-type discharge = yeast infection. Roughly 90 percent of women will have a yeast infection at some point in their life.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2306339]It has occurred to me that a monger can determine the health of a provider during foreplay by examining her vaginal discharge. This could assist said monger in determining whether to indulge in non covered activity such as BBFS, BBBJ or DATY. The below mentioned information should be of assistance:

Clear discharge = Healthy.

Grey discharge = Vaginal vaginosis.

Pink discharge = cervical bleeding.

Yellow / Green discharge = bacterial infection or sexually transmitted infection. There also may be an odor associated with it.

Brown discharge = This could be a sign of uterine or cervical cancer. Additionally, during menopause, a woman should not have any type of vaginal bleeding, which is also a sign of uterine cancer.

Red discharge = Menstruation, cervical infection, cervical polyp, endometrial or cervical cancer.

Thick, White cottage cheese-type discharge = yeast infection. Roughly 90 percent of women will have a yeast infection at some point in their life.[/QUOTE]I had to ask, there are way too many BM's giving out health advice without flashing their medical credentials. You are going to give out this info to a group of guys using their little head and ask them use this format for checking women to see if they are eligible for DATY and BBFS, no point of reference, just look for the color of discharge and the cottage cheese? No culture & sensitivity, no microscope slide, no laboratory data, just color of discharge? I'll keep this format in mind the next time I'm vaginally examining a girl from Parque Botero or Vera Cruz. Smh, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2306283]Probably the same way they can tell when you are out with a chick that is a hooker or a chick that is not a hooker.

Last week I spent time in Bogota, Melgar (many Colombians wearing shorts and flip flops despite people here saying they don't), and Barranquilla. I am Black American and speak Spanish. Nobody confused me for a Colombian. Before I could open my mouth they would already be trying to speak English with me.

It is the same when I go to Ghana, Senegal, or South Africa. Everyone knows that I am a Black American. Nobody in Accra, Dakar, or Durban has ever confused me with being an African. That blending in shit is a myth. If you are not from there then you are not blending in to shit, no matter how much you want to think you are.

P. S. Colombians even know Venezuelans from Colombians and they used to be the same damn country. So if you are not from around there then nobody is confusing you for being from around there.[/QUOTE]Well, you're generalizing of course.

They can probably tell you're a gringo before you speak by the way you dress or carry yourself.

There are black people in Colombia from Paisas to Caleños, Caribbean to Pacificos.

All shapes, shades and sizes.

Of course once you speak, whether you speak well or not, you'll have an accent, and identifiable as non-Colombian.

I've personally been mistaken as either Brazilian or Argentine in Colombia, by my look and particular Spanish accent.

Colombians know one is a Venezuelan when they speak.

The slang, accent, sayings, etc.

Physically they are obviously very similar.

Blending in is dependent on the individual.

Some obviously blend better than others.

We've all seen the obvious gringo out there.

Although I've been back for a week now, I haven't really had time to post a report so here it is.

Had my usual spring biannual trip in MDE and have to say that everything went as expected. Unlike you guys, I am afraid I am not that adventurous as I stayed in the Mansion for the whole week. Granted it's not what it used to be but at those prices you can't really beat it. For someone as lazy as me, it makes sense to go to the only game in town. Sure the rooms could use a fresh coat of paint (and they were actually remodeling a few while I was there) but where else do you get that sense of safety and gorgeous girls delivered to your door?

Did also a few casas but wasn't lucky enough to spot a diamond in the rough. Managed to hit quite a few of the strip clubs (Fase 2, etc.) but wasn't particularly impressed with the girls. Loads of them had implants and the attitude was very bored / mechanic. Definitely not GFE like in the Mansion! Looks wise there were definitely a few stunners though.

On my last day I was also lucky enough to attend the huge birthday party that a regular mansion visitor managed to throw. The club downstairs was packed and full of pussy wall to wall. We actually found out the following day that 125 girls registered to enter! Picked up a scared little cutie (classic deer in the headlights look) that was there for the first time. She was incredibly sweet and made my night.

Also managed to spend time with a few of the more "seasoned" girls there but who always and consistently deliver an outstanding service (you guys know who I am talking about). Talk about champs!

On my casa trips I spent a bit of time in Centro but couldn't wait to get out of there. Let's not sugarcoat it guys, Centro is a shithole. Between the dirt, the smells, the trannies, the junkies, the clearly not of age streetwalkers and the countless Venezuelan beggars, I honestly do not understand why anyone would want to spend any time there. But then again I guess others might not understand why I like the mansion and Poblado. I guess I just prefer to stay in nice places rather than in some rundown motel where a 50-yo trannie greets me at the door (true story). I mean why choose that area if you don't have to? To pay $15 for some girl from god knows where rather than $50?? Seriously?

Happy to say that the massage scene seems to be picking up too. Plenty of places in Poblado in classy joints with cute little girls more than willing to provide a final feliz! They seem to usually be in shopping malls (look for masaje para caballeros) but there a few in side streets.

I think I got everything but might add as my brain reboots! Feel free to also ask.

So long boys.

I'm sure your Spanish is not native quality which would be a dead give way after a couple of sentences but if it was then I don't see why you wouldn't pass as a Colombian. Could you tell who is an American and who is not, if you had seen two people talking perfect American English?

I do believe yo when you say they can tell apart Venezuelans and Colombians but I am sure that is dialect / cultural thing or its hit and miss game. There are some distinctive facial features that can be attributed to some nations but for the most part Colombia or Brazil are multiracial countries so you should find all kinds of features and skin complexion, even thou MDE is not a good example. I've been in African and South America and I've seen Afro Latinos and Afro Americans that could pass as a Nigerian or vice versa and if they're light skinned black they could pass as Ethiopian. For me is all about the language, dress and the way you act in those places. Its much harder to blend for blacks in East Europe or Russia no matter what.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2306283]Probably the same way they can tell when you are out with a chick that is a hooker or a chick that is not a hooker.

Last week I spent time in Bogota, Melgar (many Colombians wearing shorts and flip flops despite people here saying they don't), and Barranquilla. I am Black American and speak Spanish. Nobody confused me for a Colombian. Before I could open my mouth they would already be trying to speak English with me.

It is the same when I go to Ghana, Senegal, or South Africa. Everyone knows that I am a Black American. Nobody in Accra, Dakar, or Durban has ever confused me with being an African. That blending in shit is a myth. If you are not from there then you are not blending in to shit, no matter how much you want to think you are.

P. S. Colombians even know Venezuelans from Colombians and they used to be the same damn country. So if you are not from around there then nobody is confusing you for being from around there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2306518]I'm sure your Spanish is not native quality which would be a dead give way after a couple of sentences but if it was then I don't see why you wouldn't pass as a Colombian. Could you tell who is an American and who is not, if you had seen two people talking perfect American English?

I do believe yo when you say they can tell apart Venezuelans and Colombians but I am sure that is dialect / cultural thing or its hit and miss game. There are some distinctive facial features that can be attributed to some nations but for the most part Colombia or Brazil are multiracial countries so you should find all kinds of features and skin complexion, even thou MDE is not a good example. I've been in African and South America and I've seen Afro Latinos and Afro Americans that could pass as a Nigerian or vice versa and if they're light skinned black they could pass as Ethiopian. For me is all about the language, dress and the way you act in those places. Its much harder to blend for blacks in East Europe or Russia no matter what.[/QUOTE]I can tell who's from New York just like I can tell who's from the dirty south, the slang and words are completely different. At dinner I really wanted this dish we eat in Puerto Rico, called Tostones, but no one in hacienda seem to know what I was asking for, as I walked passed a table as I was leaving I saw the item I wanted to eat, when I asked the waiter what do they call that dish, she said oh, its called Patacones, I had never heard of the dish being called that at all. Simple words like that is how they know for a fact that you're not Colombian. Its just the lingo. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2306518]I'm sure your Spanish is not native quality which would be a dead give way after a couple of sentences but if it was then I don't see why you wouldn't pass as a Colombian. Could you tell who is an American and who is not, if you had seen two people talking perfect American English?

I do believe yo when you say they can tell apart Venezuelans and Colombians but I am sure that is dialect / cultural thing or its hit and miss game. There are some distinctive facial features that can be attributed to some nations but for the most part Colombia or Brazil are multiracial countries so you should find all kinds of features and skin complexion, even thou MDE is not a good example. I've been in African and South America and I've seen Afro Latinos and Afro Americans that could pass as a Nigerian or vice versa and if they're light skinned black they could pass as Ethiopian. For me is all about the language, dress and the way you act in those places. Its much harder to blend for blacks in East Europe or Russia no matter what.[/QUOTE]There are generally little things that will "betray" you as a foreigner -- the way you dress, the way you act, your gestures. It goes way beyond just appearance and accent.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2306521]when I asked the waiter what do they call that dish, she said oh, its called Patacones, I had never heard of the dish being called that at all. [/QUOTE]If you would have asked for platanos you would have probably gotten tostones. A lot of dishes here come with tostones.

I think in general tostones are more popular here than maduros / amarillos. Although I do see canoas de platano maduro con queso y carne molida in the prepared food section of the supermarkets here but I think it goes by a different name.

By the same token, some dishes here have the same names used in PR / DR like sancocho for example.

Patacones.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2306570]If you would have asked for platanos you would have probably gotten tostones. A lot of dishes here come with tostones.

I think in general tostones are more popular here than maduros / amarillos. Although I do see canoas de platano maduro con queso y carne molida in the prepared food section of the supermarkets here but I think it goes by a different name.

By the same token, some dishes here have the same names used in PR / DR like sancocho for example.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Baudelairemod;2306504]Although I've been back for a week now, I haven't really had time to post a report so here it is.

Had my usual spring biannual trip in MDE and have to say that everything went as expected. Unlike you guys, I am afraid I am not that adventurous as I stayed in the Mansion for the whole week. Granted it's not what it used to be but at those prices you can't really beat it. For someone as lazy as me, it makes sense to go to the only game in town. Sure the rooms could use a fresh coat of paint (and they were actually remodeling a few while I was there) but where else do you get that sense of safety and gorgeous girls delivered to your door?

Did also a few casas but wasn't lucky enough to spot a diamond in the rough. Managed to hit quite a few of the strip clubs (Fase 2, etc.) but wasn't particularly impressed with the girls. Loads of them had implants and the attitude was very bored / mechanic. Definitely not GFE like in the Mansion! Looks wise there were definitely a few stunners though..[/QUOTE]Great report and Intel. I'm interested in these massage places. Can you name one. Or you just did? LOL. Also I'm with you on Centro. I usually stay in the park or El palpado. I will be at Energy all this summer on my visits. But the fellas here hype it up so I will see what the deal is.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2306283]Probably the same way they can tell when you are out with a chick that is a hooker or a chick that is not a hooker.

Last week I spent time in Bogota, Melgar (many Colombians wearing shorts and flip flops despite people here saying they don't), and Barranquilla. I am Black American and speak Spanish. Nobody confused me for a Colombian. Before I could open my mouth they would already be trying to speak English with me.

It is the same when I go to Ghana, Senegal, or South Africa. Everyone knows that I am a Black American. Nobody in Accra, Dakar, or Durban has ever confused me with being an African. That blending in shit is a myth. If you are not from there then you are not blending in to shit, no matter how much you want to think you are.

P. S. Colombians even know Venezuelans from Colombians and they used to be the same damn country. So if you are not from around there then nobody is confusing you for being from around there.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you are either dressing too much like a typical American and / or acting cocky (a common American trait).

My first trip to Russia, they immediately knew I was American at the office because I was wearing tan pants. At the time, they said no Russian wears that color of pants and that they all wore dark pants. To blend in now, I just do the following: Wear Long dark slacks, dress shoes, never wear a baseball cap or even sunglasses, a button up shirt tucked in, don't act cocky, and I don't speak at first. There is no way they can know I am American by looking at me. That style of dress and humble attitude works pretty much worldwide to disguise me from being American.

I've had many people around the world tell me that they didn't know I was American because of the way I dressed and that I was not loud or aggressive like an American.

I can blend into many various countries around the world who have similar genetic traits as me. It's not just places like Russia, for example, pretty much everyone approaches me speaking Spanish in Argentina, and I can speak very little Spanish.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2306518]I'm sure your Spanish is not native quality which would be a dead give way after a couple of sentences but if it was then I don't see why you wouldn't pass as a Colombian. Could you tell who is an American and who is not, if you had seen two people talking perfect American English?

I do believe yo when you say they can tell apart Venezuelans and Colombians but I am sure that is dialect / cultural thing or its hit and miss game. There are some distinctive facial features that can be attributed to some nations but for the most part Colombia or Brazil are multiracial countries so you should find all kinds of features and skin complexion, even thou MDE is not a good example. I've been in African and South America and I've seen Afro Latinos and Afro Americans that could pass as a Nigerian or vice versa and if they're light skinned black they could pass as Ethiopian. For me is all about the language, dress and the way you act in those places. Its much harder to blend for blacks in East Europe or Russia no matter what.[/QUOTE]Ask yourself this, in your home city, can you spot a tourist in the street? Most people can, before they talk, often before they're close enough to look for facial features. It's a mixture of body language and how they move through the streets. Residents are moving around on autopilot. They're motions are smooth, predictable. Tourists are more tentative. They're hesitant and trying to see everything.

It's the same in any country. It doesn't matter if you look like them, dress like them, or even talk like them. You don't connect with the environment like them. One of the reasons I spent so much time walking the streets was to work on that connection, to be able to see things like the locals see them.

What's up brothers.

Looking for a little feedback on my plan for the city of eternal spring!

Planning two week visit.

Getting a room in Poblado / Astorga / La Florida area (any feedback on this area? Looks like a good one).

Going to be prowling Cupid / Tinder / Facebook for amateur / non pros for a couple months before the visit.

Mainly looking for a nice non pro I can repeat with regularly for the visit or do TLN.

Fall back onto various casas I see on the monger map around Poblado if facebook doesn't pan out.

I look pretty gringo-why and only speak basic Spanish, but I don't come across as an obnoxious American.

I'm really coming mainly to relax, eat, and work out. I found a nice gym in this area as well.

Would like to sample some of the local flavor in other ways as well LOL.

One problem is all the flights I am seeing arrive quite late (midnight) and the damn airport is halfway to Rio Negro. I guess at this time of night car / taxi is the only realistic option?

[QUOTE=Combo;2306564]There are generally little things that will "betray" you as a foreigner -- the way you dress, the way you act, your gestures. It goes way beyond just appearance and accent.[/QUOTE]Very well put, couldn't said it better.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2306748]Ask yourself this, in your home city, can you spot a tourist in the street? Most people can, before they talk, often before they're close enough to look for facial features. It's a mixture of body language and how they move through the streets [/QUOTE]A tourist yes but not necessarily a foreigner but agree with you have said. Unless there is an elephant in the room like your skin color doesn't match with rest of population or you are being blond in India. A good rule to remember, if you don't want to look like a tourist from afar just stop staring at the surroundings and act like you know where you are going with [B]confidence[/B] as many of the knowledgeable veterans have pointed out earlier, sometimes easier said then done. But it could be life saving in sketchy streets.

She definitely doesn't have HIV or HSV LOL.

Lab culture? Nah man I eyeballed it what are we fuckin NASA or something?

Wear a rubber or accept the risk! All there is to it!

ROFL.

I've fucked some dirty, dirty girls raw, but never under the delusion that it was low risk.

Maybe that makes me the dirty one?

In all seriousness condoms have come a long way in the last 20 years. When I was a kid it was more fun to jerk off than use a rubber. Some of these Skyn and. 004's and shit are actually tolerable.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2306379]I had to ask, there are way too many BM's giving out health advice without flashing their medical credentials. You are going to give out this info to a group of guys using their little head and ask them use this format for checking women to see if they are eligible for DATY and BBFS, no point of reference, just look for the color of discharge and the cottage cheese? No culture & sensitivity, no microscope slide, no laboratory data, just color of discharge? I'll keep this format in mind the next time I'm vaginally examining a girl from Parque Botero or Vera Cruz. Smh, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2306788]What's up brothers.

Looking for a little feedback on my plan for the city of eternal spring!

Planning two week visit.

Getting a room in Poblado / Astorga / La Florida area (any feedback on this area? Looks like a good one).

Going to be prowling Cupid / Tinder / Facebook for amateur / non pros for a couple months before the visit.

Mainly looking for a nice non pro I can repeat with regularly for the visit or do TLN.

Fall back onto various casas I see on the monger map around Poblado if facebook doesn't pan out.

I look pretty gringo-why and only speak basic Spanish, but I don't come across as an obnoxious American.

I'm really coming mainly to relax, eat, and work out. I found a nice gym in this area as well.

Would like to sample some of the local flavor in other ways as well LOL.

One problem is all the flights I am seeing arrive quite late (midnight) and the damn airport is halfway to Rio Negro. I guess at this time of night car / taxi is the only realistic option?[/QUOTE]If you are staying at a large hotel is likely they have drivers to pick up for a fee, no matter the time. My first time in MDE I called the hotel and they send me cab to Poblado for about 70 K if I recall right which is about the normal fee, contact me for driver info if you wish otherwise uber works great in the town. Yes the airport is far from the city you will be driving down hill for about 30 minutes from some mountains. From my what I have seen, I would recommend anything but El Poblado if you want to mingle with the locals (especially since you speak Spanish), its full of extremely steep hills and therefor you won't see anyone walking in most areas.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2306609]Great report and Intel. I'm interested in these massage places. Can you name one. Or you just did? LOL. Also I'm with you on Centro. I usually stay in the park or El palpado. I will be at Energy all this summer on my visits. But the fellas here hype it up so I will see what the deal is.[/QUOTE]I was quite lucky to find a few in Poblado.

Om Spa was a good one, Jade Palace gave a nice service but the highlight for me had to be El Garage ([URL]http://www.elgaragebarbershop.com/spa/index.html[/URL]). Both venues were very nice. I was partial to the Laureles one but if you go to the Poblado one, you'll be in the same mall as Om. The mall is called Rio Sur and you have Om on 4th floor and El Garage below. So could be two in one if you feel like it. If I remember correctly, it was 120 k for the house and 100 k propina. I know this might put off some of the more hardcore and savings-oriented mongers but I was there to pamper myself so why the hell not!

Haven't really stayed in the Energy flats but I hear they are very convenient for the brothel downstairs!

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2306890]Very well put, couldn't said it better.

A tourist yes but not necessarily a foreigner but agree with you have said. Unless there is an elephant in the room like your skin color doesn't match with rest of population or you are being blond in India. A good rule to remember, if you don't want to look like a tourist from afar just stop staring at the surroundings and act like you know where you are going with [B]confidence[/B] as many of the knowledgeable veterans have pointed out earlier, sometimes easier said then done. But it could be life saving in sketchy streets.[/QUOTE]I had a neighbor who knew his girl was a WG, but he didn't want to admit it, he knew someone was banging his girl 2 to 3 times a day. He heard me speak Spanish to his girl, and he told me he would kill me when he caught me, I told him fine catch me. I banged her for about 3 months and one day he was in the local store with me and heard me speak Spanish to the cashier, he gave me a look, but knew he would have his hands full with me as I was much bigger. So once again, you cannot look at people and know that they are not from one place or another. Maybe India, maybe Russia, but never in South America. Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2306575]Patacones.[/QUOTE]Yep basically the same thing as tostones if you are Caribbean.

Sometimes Colombians make them thinner and harder.

When will you be there? I'll be there 6/12-6/15. Let meet up! I've played around in some casas in Bogota and would dig a sidekick in Medellin. Lmk.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2306788]What's up brothers.

Looking for a little feedback on my plan for the city of eternal spring!

Planning two week visit.

Getting a room in Poblado / Astorga / La Florida area (any feedback on this area? Looks like a good one).

Going to be prowling Cupid / Tinder / Facebook for amateur / non pros for a couple months before the visit.

Mainly looking for a nice non pro I can repeat with regularly for the visit or do TLN.

Fall back onto various casas I see on the monger map around Poblado if facebook doesn't pan out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;2307318]When will you be there? I'll be there 6/12-6/15. Let meet up! I've played around in some casas in Bogota and would dig a sidekick in Medellin. Lmk.[/QUOTE]Yeah. Its always good to have someone on your 6!

I'm not coming down until December tho!

Coming back?

Hello,

I just discovered this forum today. I'm planning a short 3-5 day trip to Medellin end of May / early June (my first time to Colombia). Not knowing about this forum I started doing some research on my own.

I talked to 40+ girls on FB an SA. I don't speak Spanish. About 20% of the girls were able to communicate in English, with the rest of them I used google translator.

I wrote that I'm looking for a girl to show me the city, restaurants, party a little and have fun at night.

I was able to get price from 25 girls: lowest was 250 mil (from 19 yo) the highest $300. Some of girls I negotiated, from some I just took note of their demands. Majority of girls (85%) were looking for 400-500 mil.

Several girls did not want to talk money, but made clear they will expect it. Only one told me she's not prepago, few more dropped out of chat when money was mentioned.

I hope to verify this in real life and report back in June.

[QUOTE=Bbbodek2019;2307577]Hello,

I just discovered this forum today. I'm planning a short 3-5 day trip to Medellin end of May / early June (my first time to Colombia). Not knowing about this forum I started doing some research on my own.

I talked to 40+ girls on FB an SA. I don't speak Spanish. About 20% of the girls were able to communicate in English, with the rest of them I used google translator.

I wrote that I'm looking for a girl to show me the city, restaurants, party a little and have fun at night.

I was able to get price from 25 girls: lowest was 250 mil (from 19 yo) the highest $300. Some of girls I negotiated, from some I just took note of their demands. Majority of girls (85%) were looking for 400-500 mil.

Several girls did not want to talk money, but made clear they will expect it. Only one told me she's not prepago, few more dropped out of chat when money was mentioned.

I hope to verify this in real life and report back in June.[/QUOTE]Seekingdotcom is kinda new to these girls. 2 or 3 years old. My suggestion to you is that if they don't ask for money then don't talk about money. Then sneak a 150 or 200 k in there purse with them seeing you do it. Seeking is kinda a grey area. The girls that are not pros will not talk about money. The genuine girls will give you great GFE if you buy them stuff and put a little money in there pocket. Perfume from the states or stuff from victoria secret well always open there legs right up.

[QUOTE=Bbbodek2019;2307577]I talked to 40+ girls on FB an SA. I don't speak Spanish. About 20% of the girls were able to communicate in English, with the rest of them I used google translator.[/QUOTE]You are not alone. 9 out of the 10 that were able to communicate in English were using google translator as well.

[QUOTE=Bbbodek2019;2307577] I was able to get price from 25 girls: lowest was 250 mil (from 19 yo) the highest $300. Some of girls I negotiated, from some I just took note of their demands. Majority of girls (85%) were looking for 400-500 mil.[/QUOTE]I know you are trying to get your feet wet, but you are wasting your time. Call down to the Cadillac dealership and ask them how much for one of those new Fleetwoods. Now show up at the dealership with a bag full of cash and see how much you can get one for. Deals are made when you are ready to make a purchase, not when you are just making an inquiry.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2307641]You are not alone. 9 out of the 10 that were able to communicate in English were using google translator as well.

I know you are trying to get your feet wet, but you are wasting your time. Call down to the Cadillac dealership and ask them how much for one of those new Fleetwoods. Now show up at the dealership with a bag full of cash and see how much you can get one for. Deals are made when you are ready to make a purchase, not when you are just making an inquiry.[/QUOTE] Tell’em Mr E.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2306183]Hi,

Any recommendation for a 6 hour lay over? Any good places near airport?[/QUOTE]In Rionegro, check out the surroundings of the Plaza Mercado (main market square), there are some bars with hookers, very safe at afternoon, not recommended at night.

Regards.

Just arrived. Hit the usual spots. And man it's dry. I thought Holy Week was next week but it appears that it's Already started. Bad timing on my part.

[QUOTE=Bbbodek2019;2307577]Hello,

I just discovered this forum today. I'm planning a short 3-5 day trip to Medellin end of May / early June (my first time to Colombia). Not knowing about this forum I started doing some research on my own.

I talked to 40+ girls on FB an SA. I don't speak Spanish. About 20% of the girls were able to communicate in English, with the rest of them I used google translator.

I wrote that I'm looking for a girl to show me the city, restaurants, party a little and have fun at night.

I was able to get price from 25 girls: lowest was 250 mil (from 19 yo) the highest $300. Some of girls I negotiated, from some I just took note of their demands. Majority of girls (85%) were looking for 400-500 mil.

Several girls did not want to talk money, but made clear they will expect it. Only one told me she's not prepago, few more dropped out of chat when money was mentioned.

I hope to verify this in real life and report back in June.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2307641]You are not alone. 9 out of the 10 that were able to communicate in English were using google translator as well.

I know you are trying to get your feet wet, but you are wasting your time. Call down to the Cadillac dealership and ask them how much for one of those new Fleetwoods. Now show up at the dealership with a bag full of cash and see how much you can get one for. Deals are made when you are ready to make a purchase, not when you are just making an inquiry.[/QUOTE]Spot on advice, do NOT start your communication with the chicas on any dating or FB or cupid site or the like no earlier than 3 weeks in advance, things change with these chicas, the cad dealership parallel is the best way to describe it as MrEnt did.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2307641]I know you are trying to get your feet wet, but you are wasting your time. Call down to the Cadillac dealership and ask them how much for one of those new Fleetwoods. Now show up at the dealership with a bag full of cash and see how much you can get one for. Deals are made when you are ready to make a purchase, not when you are just making an inquiry.[/QUOTE]I mess with a lot of non-pros. To me that is something that needs to be planned out in some cases because they have other things going on. I will fit in P4P between the non-pros if I can. For me it is something that is spur of the moment. There is no need for me to plan out a hooker weeks in advance; after all, it is her job so she is waiting on that call for some immediate business.

I guess I could make a list ahead of time but I don't do it that way. I will be ready for a hooker. I will go to whatever website that has them posted. I will send a message to their whatsapp saying are you available to work. I may give them a few minutes to answer before sending a message to the next person.

When they answer saying yes I will ask how much. Whatever price they give I will say that is too much. They will say how much can you pay. I will say x amount. In most cases they will say ok. I tell them where I am (or ask how to get to them) and ask them how long it will take for them to arrive. Okay, but if it is past x o'clock I will not be here because I have something to do.

I keep it simple. I know what they are there for so there is no need in trying to buddy up with them weeks in advance. Just like walking into McDonalds. No need to call them weeks in advance asking the price of Big Macs. Walk in. Look at the menu. Order. Eat.

Curious if I should expect a lull in opportunity or if it's pretty much business as usual.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Chicafan;2307924]Curious if I should expect a lull in opportunity or if it's pretty much business as usual.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Easter weekend is definitely bad. For the strip clubs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;2304501]It seems there is not a consensus on this. I think the best strategy is to not ask, never bring up a price unless they do.[/QUOTE]With all respect, I do not agree. Not discussing the price, of any service you commission in life, leads to possible later misunderstandings and problems. I have a different approach. I always discuss the price but just before taking the girl out from where I met her. Like almost in the door and almost casually. I also tend to suggest the first figure. If I really like a girl, I am also willing to overpay to some degree for the first time. I consider this as an investment. I also make sure, that the girl knows I am a long time resident and not a two week sex tourist. The combination of the two will in most cases boost her performance, as she will want a long time returning customer at a high price. Now when the deed is done and when I pay her, I mention with a wink, that the next time we meet I want a discount. Usually they just smile. Then, when the time comes and I message her, I offer her the market price or slightly below. Most girls will go for it, as by then they "know" you and you have hopefully established some kind of chemistry the first time. And most girls will prefer a returning customer with the knowledge what to expect, than a complete stranger with all the uncertainties. Even if the former comes with a little less in compensation. Obviously you have to know the real market value of the different tiers of girls to make this work. I applied this strategy in both Thailand and Brazil, while spending the winter and it is quite reliable.

Quick question. Has anyone stayed at Hotel Nutibara and if so what do they charge for guests? Appreciate the info and thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2307808]Just arrived. Hit the usual spots. And man it's dry. I thought Holy Week was next week but it appears that it's Already started. Bad timing on my part.[/QUOTE]It isn't so bad, I am here at moment and yes a lad slow but plenty to go around.

[QUOTE=Brooklyn658;2308697]Quick question. Has anyone stayed at Hotel Nutibara and if so what do they charge for guests? Appreciate the info and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Guest.

Rooms are not too bad, I was in one that had a single bed, a double bed, and a fan. I was in the cheap rooms too. They don't charge extra for guests.

[QUOTE=Danubius;2308556]With all respect, I do not agree. Not discussing the price, of any service you commission in life, leads to possible later misunderstandings and problems. I have a different approach. I always discuss the price but just before taking the girl out from where I met her.[/QUOTE]And what if it so happens that the girl is not a hooker? I have picked up chicks before that have stayed with me. The next day I have tried to give them money and they have looked at me like I was crazy and asked what is this for.

I would really feel like an ass if I was to ask a girl beforehand how much and it turns out she was not a hooker. That is why I do not bring up money unless they do.

Is the Nutibara "girl friendly" in the way we use the term?

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2308759]Guest.

Rooms are not too bad, I was in one that had a single bed, a double bed, and a fan. I was in the cheap rooms too. They don't charge extra for guests.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2308789]Is the Nutibara "girl friendly" in the way we use the term?[/QUOTE]For sure you can have them over for 3 hours or more, but I am not sure you can have them overnight. They seem kool there and I can't see why it would be a problem. Never had a girl over for the whole night though. Other people on the forum have stayed there more times than me, so it might be best if someone else chimed in. I was only there for about 10 days and did most of my business in casas. Yea, girl friendly,

[QUOTE=Danubius;2308556]With all respect, I do not agree. Not discussing the price, of any service you commission in life, leads to possible later misunderstandings and problems. I have a different approach. I always discuss the price but just before taking the girl out from where I met her. Like almost in the door and almost casually. I also tend to suggest the first figure. If I really like a girl, I am also willing to overpay to some degree for the first time. I consider this as an investment. I also make sure, that the girl knows I am a long time resident and not a two week sex tourist. The combination of the two will in most cases boost her performance, as she will want a long time returning customer at a high price. Now when the deed is done and when I pay her, I mention with a wink, that the next time we meet I want a discount. Usually they just smile. Then, when the time comes and I message her, I offer her the market price or slightly below. Most girls will go for it, as by then they "know" you and you have hopefully established some kind of chemistry the first time. And most girls will prefer a returning customer with the knowledge what to expect, than a complete stranger with all the uncertainties. Even if the former comes with a little less in compensation. Obviously you have to know the real market value of the different tiers of girls to make this work. I applied this strategy in both Thailand and Brazil, while spending the winter and it is quite reliable.[/QUOTE]Agreed. If she is a definitely a prepago you always discuss price.

Ask if she is prepago and possibly offend a good girl.

-OR-.

Do not ask a bad girl and possibly get your ass kicked by her BF, cousins, etc. Have unhappy scene at the hotel lobby. Go to jail. Not a a difficult decision.

Good indications are number of body piercings, location of piercings, how many tattoos, location of tattoos. The taller the high heels the higher the chance she is for sale. And the list goes on.

Ask her specific questions about her job. The more questions you ask and the more detailed the questions the easier it is to see she really does not do that job. Ask 3-5 questions being more and more specific and the game is up. Or odd questions. If she is a chef then ask her the temperature that fish is considered cooked. What is her favorite spice and why. What meals does she use that spice in. Then ask her to cook it for you and see her speech stop or her face drop. It can be very fun after some practice. See how fast you can steer the conversation to back her into a corner.

If you want to ask if she is prepago without offending her then tell her you once met a girl early one day at the mall. You took her to lunch and hung out shopping. When you went to leave the mall she ask for money. You were confused and she explained she was an escort and gets paid for her time. You did not expect that and do not want future problems with anyone.

In your scenario, of offering money in the morning and she is offended. There are many ways to save face for both of you. Just say you wanted to take her shopping but do not have time today because you are meeting a buddy.

"Here. Take the money. Do some shopping and take a few of your friends to lunch. Maybe we can meet up tomorrow or tonight".

"What? Last night I thought you said you had to go shopping today for someone's birthday. Sorry I am not shopping material so I am letting you go alone. Is it too much?

"I thought you were going to go out to bring me breakfast in bed? No? Bad girl. Hahaha. ".

"Sorry. Just a reflex. My ex-wife used to wake me up in the morning asking me for shopping money. Since you were so loving like my ex-wife it was just like deja vu. ".

So very simple.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2308767]And what if it so happens that the girl is not a hooker? I have picked up chicks before that have stayed with me. The next day I have tried to give them money and they have looked at me like I was crazy and asked what is this for.

I would really feel like an ass if I was to ask a girl beforehand how much and it turns out she was not a hooker. That is why I do not bring up money unless they do.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2309023]Ask if she is prepago and possibly offend a good girl.

-OR-.

Do not ask a bad girl and possibly get your ass kicked by her BF, cousins, etc. Have unhappy scene at the hotel lobby. Go to jail. Not a a difficult decision.[/QUOTE]Why are those the only 2 possibilities? Besides, everyone else on here is of the opinion that they do not want their family to know they are hookers, so if cousins are coming to beat you up... I have never gone to jail or been beat up for not knowing in advance that a chick was a hooker, and I have been through a couple thousand of them.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2309023]Good indications are number of body piercings, location of piercings, how many tattoos, location of tattoos. The taller the high heels the higher the chance she is for sale. And the list goes on.[/QUOTE]I have met plenty of hookers wearing sneakers and with no tattoos. I have met many normal chicks with a bunch of tattoos and piercings.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2309023]Ask her specific questions about her job. The more questions you ask and the more detailed the questions the easier it is to see she really does not do that job.[/QUOTE]Means nothing. Many chicks are hookers apart from their normal job. Like the chick I reported about last time I was in Medellin that works at the clothes factory and goes to work at the cathouse when she finishes at 2 pm. Likewise, many women are not hookers and do not have jobs.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2309023]If you want to ask if she is prepago without offending her

"Sorry. Just a reflex. My ex-wife used to wake me up in the morning asking me for shopping money. Since you were so loving like my ex-wife it was just like deja vu. ".

So very simple.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you make picking up chicks to be very complicated. In my opinion, if she is charging then it is on her to let you know. Are you going to give someone a ride without asking for gas money, or are you going to give them a ride assuming they know you expect gas money when you arrive at the destination? You could just as well arrive and find out they do not have the money you were expecting they would give you. Personally, I would tell them up front they would need to pay for gas, the same way a chick should tell you if you will have to pay for pussy.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2308767]And what if it so happens that the girl is not a hooker? I have picked up chicks before that have stayed with me. The next day I have tried to give them money and they have looked at me like I was crazy and asked what is this for.

I would really feel like an ass if I was to ask a girl beforehand how much and it turns out she was not a hooker. That is why I do not bring up money unless they do.[/QUOTE]Oh c'mon, if one is an experienced monger, 99% of the time he will know if she is a hooker or not. There are just sooo many signs, starting with the place you meet her to her appearance and to her body language. It's just a different vibe with the non-pros. I don't think I have ever been in a situation where I was really in doubt. I just don't see how that can happen. Unless she is in fact a hooker and she falls for your charm. But then she will probably take the money in the morning.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2309023]Ask if she is prepago and possibly offend a good girl.

-OR-.

Do not ask a bad girl and possibly get your ass kicked by her BF, cousins, etc. Have unhappy scene at the hotel lobby. Go to jail. Not a a difficult decision.

Good indications are number of body piercings, location of piercings, how many tattoos, location of tattoos. The taller the high heels the higher the chance she is for sale. And the list goes on.

Ask her specific questions about her job. The more questions you ask and the more detailed the questions the easier it is to see she really does not do that job. Ask 3-5 questions being more and more specific and the game is up. Or odd questions. If she is a chef then ask her the temperature that fish is considered cooked. What is her favorite spice and why. What meals does she use that spice in. Then ask her to cook it for you and see her speech stop or her face drop. It can be very fun after some practice. See how fast you can steer the conversation to back her into a corner.

If you want to ask if she is prepago without offending her then tell her you once met a girl early one day at the mall. You took her to lunch and hung out shopping. When you went to leave the mall she ask for money. You were confused and she explained she was an escort and gets paid for her time. You did not expect that and do not want future problems with anyone.

In your scenario, of offering money in the morning and she is offended. There are many ways to save face for both of you. Just say you wanted to take her shopping but do not have time today because you are meeting a buddy.

"Here. Take the money. Do some shopping and take a few of your friends to lunch. Maybe we can meet up tomorrow or tonight".

"What? Last night I thought you said you had to go shopping today for someone's birthday. Sorry I am not shopping material so I am letting you go alone. Is it too much?

"I thought you were going to go out to bring me breakfast in bed? No? Bad girl. Hahaha. ".

"Sorry. Just a reflex. My ex-wife used to wake me up in the morning asking me for shopping money. Since you were so loving like my ex-wife it was just like deja vu. ".

So very simple.[/QUOTE]Haha, now that's some corny stuff.

Sounds like a bad movie, LOL.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2306379]I had to ask, there are way too many BM's giving out health advice without flashing their medical credentials. You are going to give out this info to a group of guys using their little head and ask them use this format for checking women to see if they are eligible for DATY and BBFS, no point of reference, just look for the color of discharge and the cottage cheese? No culture & sensitivity, no microscope slide, no laboratory data, just color of discharge? I'll keep this format in mind the next time I'm vaginally examining a girl from Parque Botero or Vera Cruz. Smh, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]I'm not a doctor but I know plenty and I won't comment on what he said but you definitely don't need to culture or run discharge to determine what it is. 98% of the time if you have experience, you can look at the discharge and know what it is. Testing is to see if they have anything else. Also just because you don't see any discharge does not mean you're safe, women don't show symptoms of gonorrhea and it is easily transmitted. So you're always taking a risk, up to you on whether it's worth it.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2309087]Haha, now that's some corny stuff.

Sounds like a bad movie, LOL.[/QUOTE]LMAO.

And what do you do when you don't discuss money and she's at your place and after the deed she wants a ridiculous amount of $$.

Let me guess you dictate what the market price is and slip her 100 mil thinking you're being generous. Haha.

And if she decides to cause a scene and call the cops or her "male friend" what the??

Since the object of this board is mongering and NOT dating how about avoid having problems in a country you don't call home.

Simply asking a girl if she is working or a companion will get the foot in. Then discuss prices services etc.

If you offend a "good girl" shouldn't be a problem. Just apologize and explain that you are constantly being approached by working girls and simply had to ask.

Being that she is not oblivious to what's going on in her country she will surely understand.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2309134]Since the object of this board is mongering and NOT dating.[/QUOTE]I see you have not read the forum purpose. It says nothing about mongering.

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2308861]For sure you can have them over for 3 hours or more, but I am not sure you can have them overnight. They seem kool there and I can't see why it would be a problem. Never had a girl over for the whole night though. Other people on the forum have stayed there more times than me, so it might be best if someone else chimed in. I was only there for about 10 days and did most of my business in casas. Yea, girl friendly,[/QUOTE]I stayed there for 3 nights this Jan, and the rule there is no guests allowed after 6 PM. This even means men as my wing man was to meet me there at around 7 PM, and they would not let him in.

To answer another question posted before, the room I was in was great. Had a fridge, and a huge safe that fit my laptop. I paid $100 total for the 3 nights after booking at Booking. Com.

Also the front desk day man was a great help as he hooked me up with a great dentist.

Really sad that it has become such a pain in the ass in Colombia to find girl friendly hotels. I hate the short time hotel scene.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2309157]I see you have not read the forum purpose. It says nothing about mongering.

"The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. ".[/QUOTE]I guess I'm the one that is oblivious here. These escort ads and reports of guys paying for hookers just make up a small % of the people on this board. Lmao.

I looked at all the advertisements and what they were selling and prices. I have read so many posts on what countries to visit, locations of massages with happy endings, prices to pay, and even maps showing me where to go. Now I find out thus is not a mongering Board. Maybe that is why I could not pay using my credit card. I feel so stupid. I just wish someone with 8000+ posts could please help me.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2309134]LMAO.

And what do you do when you don't discuss money and she's at your place and after the deed she wants a ridiculous amount of $$.[/QUOTE]I remember a couple of secret service guys that visited Colombia and did not bother to set a price before doing the deed.

How did that turn out? HeeHee.

Only a fool swims with sharks without knowing the price.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2309102]I'm not a doctor but I know plenty and I won't comment on what he said but you definitely don't need to culture or run discharge to determine what it is. 98% of the time if you have experience, you can look at the discharge and know what it is. Testing is to see if they have anything else. Also just because you don't see any discharge does not mean you're safe, women don't show symptoms of gonorrhea and it is easily transmitted. So you're always taking a risk, up to you on whether it's worth it.[/QUOTE]Vaginas other than a OBGYN, there's a reason medical personnel run exams on discharge and secretions. I love the responses that BMs make but I guarantee you'll never go to a hospital and someone tells you I have experience in this area so there is no need to test the specimen. It shows me and any sensible BM just how petty men become when using the wrong head. Clearly you're no Dr or medical staff, but you had to chime in, all I ask is prove your assumption and stop facilitating unproven rumors to scare potential visitors to Colombia. Then again, you're probably another computer dude who wacks off after reading our adventures in Centro. Pollo negro is out!

Does anyone know if Hotel Dan Carlton is guest friendly if I book a room for two? I am traveling to MDE in mid May.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2309134]LMAO.

And what do you do when you don't discuss money and she's at your place and after the deed she wants a ridiculous amount of $$.

Let me guess you dictate what the market price is and slip her 100 mil thinking you're being generous. Haha.

And if she decides to cause a scene and call the cops or her "male friend" what the??

Since the object of this board is mongering and NOT dating how about avoid having problems in a country you don't call home.

Simply asking a girl if she is working or a companion will get the foot in. Then discuss prices services etc.

If you offend a "good girl" shouldn't be a problem. Just apologize and explain that you are constantly being approached by working girls and simply had to ask.

Being that she is not oblivious to what's going on in her country she will surely understand.[/QUOTE]Amigo I agree with you, I was just chuckling at some of the corny lines.

First of all, I've been hanging in Colombia for over 20 years, and I speak fluent Spanish.

I know how the "game" is played, LOL.

I always know the price, and so do they.

I love and appreciate the working girls, at least most of them, LOL.

I treat them right, they treat me right.

Everyone wins.

Don't really get regular girls and working girls confused, but if it happens for some reason, like you said, just apologize, wink, smile, lighten it up, move on.

Again, like you said, she knows.

Don't get all into drama.

Have fun!

Hi mates,

As I am getting ready for my travel to Colombia, if any of you are aware of any SA girls which are available for action.

Please PM me, or respond.

Will assist in reducing the number of messages I will be sending in SA in coming weeks.

Will post the same in other Colombian forums.

Cheer.

Mike.

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2309302]I remember a couple of secret service guys that visited Colombia and did not bother to set a price before doing the deed. How did that turn out? HeeHee. Only a fool swims with sharks without knowing the price.[/QUOTE]Except that one lady did say the guy she was with set a price before, so maybe you remember wrong. I guess there are fools swimming with sharks while knowing the price as well.

"One agent contracted her for the night, agreeing to the price of $800, according to Suárez."

[QUOTE=Kelso1;2309169]Really sad that it has become such a pain in the ass in Colombia to find girl friendly hotels. I hate the short time hotel scene.[/QUOTE]That is why god created the Love Motels in Medellin, I am using these now almost on a weekly basis, I can make suck a mess of the room and not worry a bit of cleaning it up, and the cost of 25 to 40 mil for 2 to 4 hours can't be beat, heck when I am done with the girl just leave, I usually will give the chica some taxi money or drop her off where I picked her up from.

I have had 3 some's and shared a room and bed with my best colombian amigo and his girl, lot's of fun to be had.

Love Motels are the answer as I too detest those creepy crawly hotel rooms, yuck!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2309466]Amigo I agree with you, I was just chuckling at some of the corny lines.

First of all, I've been hanging in Colombia for over 20 years, and I speak fluent Spanish.

I know how the "game" is played, LOL.

I always know the price, and so do they.

I love and appreciate the working girls, at least most of them, LOL.

I treat them right, they treat me right.

Everyone wins.

Don't really get regular girls and working girls confused, but if it happens for some reason, like you said, just apologize, wink, smile, lighten it up, move on.

Again, like you said, she knows.

Don't get all into drama.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Wasn't saying anything to poke at you or offend.

Yes just have fun and enjoy.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2309514]Wasn't saying anything to poke at you or offend.

Yes just have fun and enjoy.[/QUOTE]Cool, thanks brotha!

Hi mates,

As I am getting ready for my travel to Colombia, if any of you are aware of any SA girls which are available for action.

Please PM me, or respond.

Will assist in reducing the number of messages I will be sending in SA in coming weeks.

Will post the same in other Colombian forums.

Happy mongering.

Mike.

Shout out to another poster for the FB link of one he didn't get a chance to connect with, so I figured I'd take one for the team and get out of my comfort zone of known providers.

This means my expectations were zero, and I had the time and money to spend without tripping about it.

My report is from mid March 2019.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Karisuperwoow[/URL]

TL; DR. Karina was pretty standard. Not a beauty, but I was getting these 'awkward teen, young Juliette Lewis from Dusk til Dawn vibe', and its been a while since I had a skinny body with long legs. Trippy experience for me, as she was pretty flat chested. Think bee stings. Sometimes I have trouble busting a nut, but she got me hot for some reason. And the point where she's lying on the bed, head hanging over the edge while I'm face fucking her upside down head while making her come with a vibrator, and seeing those long ass legs, was a highlight of my trip. I had to repeat with her again to try and recapture that feeling. I didn't CIM because I wanted to pound, she did make me come hard while fucking her first missionary then doggie. She wasn't GFE, was all about fucking. Tight snatch and sweet taste. I really enjoyed the BBBJ. I'm avg size, but she deep throat like none other this trip.

I did take pics our second session. And it was 'cute' because she had the fishnet stockings and either a Batman bra or panties, I can't remember. Somehow I lost those pics, and the ones I've attached here I ripped from her social media. As these were the ones that piqued my interest.

- standard straightforward communication. Nothing fancy. Looking back at my Facebook messenger history, it appears I pinged her a few weeks prior to my arrival. Totally unnecessary. But her response was chill, and she readily provided her whatsapp info.

- everyone has their opinion on how to negotiate, and for this case, I chose the ol' 'I pay 150 mil cop'. She replied 'do you want me to go now'? I confirmed, and she asked if I could pay taxi (she comes from Bello and I was at San Peter in Laureles) so I said sure. Total damage 170 mil COP and probably about two hours, considering we smoked a blunt and I warmed up some leftover pollo asado and potatoes for her. That * was hungry! I think she might be a little lower strata. First thing she asked when I told her to take a shower was if there was hot water. Thinking back, I can't say she was in a rush to leave. More me kicking her out.

- I confirmed she had cedula (I had a strikeout with a known squirting ho who showed up but only a copy of cedula, she says her purse was stolen, and of course she wasn't allowed up. And I appreciate that rule so she got kicked to the curb but it did waste my time) Anyway, Karina is 19 yrs old. Kind of young for my tastes but I really did just want to take one for the team.

- Looking at our messenger history. From the time she said 'do you want me to come now' to the message that said 'estoy abojo' it was 43 minutes. I think that was pretty good! She must not have been doing anything. Our second appointment I was over at Energy Living, so a bit farther, but same price, but I kicked in an extra 10 k because she was really good and keeping me updated. She had to eat dinner first (with family? Then very regular updates on how long it would take to get ready and where she was in the cab, etc. I felt she was very punctual. Second session she was a bit warmer to me, and a little more sultry (but not fake GFE or anything).

OK so, YMMV and you may be turned off by the really flat chest. Would I see her again? Eh, prob not (unless maybe she saves up and gets some bolt ONS which aren't even my thing) but I did repeat and had same great experience and she likes to party. Cheech and chong and tony Montana all good with her.

Maybe I like that she's taller and skinny, or maybe its she's young and a bit awkward / not self confident, or maybe she's got that hood rat edge to her a little, or maybe just little different from the typical long black haired paisa. Or maybe all of it catered to my weird tastes in hoes!

So the lesson for me was. Get out and explore. You'll find some good times!

Good luck!

[QUOTE=BigMonkeyP;2309640]Shout out to another poster for the FB link of one he didn't get a chance to connect with, so I figured I'd take one for the team and get out of my comfort zone of known providers.

This means my expectations were zero, and I had the time and money to spend without tripping about it.

My report is from mid March 2019.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Karisuperwoow[/URL]

TL; DR. Karina was pretty standard. Not a beauty, but I was getting these 'awkward teen, young Juliette Lewis from Dusk til Dawn vibe', and its been a while since I had a skinny body with long legs. Trippy experience for me, as she was pretty flat chested. Think bee stings. Sometimes I have trouble busting a nut, but she got me hot for some reason. And the point where she's lying on the bed, head hanging over the edge while I'm face fucking her upside down head while making her come with a vibrator, and seeing those long ass legs, was a highlight of my trip. I had to repeat with her again to try and recapture that feeling. I didn't CIM because I wanted to pound, she did make me come hard while fucking her first missionary then doggie. She wasn't GFE, was all about fucking. Tight snatch and sweet taste. I really enjoyed the BBBJ. I'm avg size, but she deep throat like none other this trip..[/QUOTE]Great report man! When you say she was GFE, she wasn't in to kissing?

Just saw this in FaceBook.

GringoPaisa (Americans In Medellin).

4 hrs.

Yesterday I was leaving el éxito on la 80, in an Uber coming back on la 33 in front of the bomba we were in traffic and my girl got a message and pulled her phone out to show me something, within 30 seconds 4 guys, 2 Motos and 2 revolvers in our faces asking for her phone and necklace. Be very careful taking your phones out in taxi / Uber in this area and in el centro. Sometimes we forget and it could have easily cost our life. There are a lot of bandidos that come from barrio Manrique to Laureles preying on people who think they are in a safe neighborhood.

[QUOTE=DeepXliv;2309805]Great report man! When you say she was GFE, she wasn't in to kissing?[/QUOTE]Right. To clarify, I'm saying she wasn't too flirty or charming or giggly and talkative. It took a bit of conversation in Spanish to break down the ice a bit. (I'm not fluent, and re-use the same jokes and conversation starters all the time). To be fair, she didn't have attitude or anything like that. I'm wondering if she's new to it all? I believe she's shy about her braces. LFK was fine though.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2309830]Be very careful taking your phones out in taxi / Uber in this area and in el centro. Sometimes we forget and it could have easily cost our life. There are a lot of bandidos that come from barrio Manrique to Laureles preying on people who think they are in a safe neighborhood.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up. I meet girls all the time that tell me they've been robbed for their phone so it doesn't surprise me. I'm more surprised it doesn't happen more given the poverty and number of obvious tourists in town.

Just returned from a 6 day trip to MDE.

Got in mid afternoon from a very early flight. Stayed at Dunes suites in Poblado 3 blocks from lleras, got in got some supplies and took a nap.

First girl that evening [URL]https://www.facebook.com/paulagp1111[/URL] I have seen her before and she is super chill and her face is gorgeous! She is not a teen I think late 20's but amazing in bed BBBJ, CIM, and all positions you can think of, she can be laid back or she can take you out partying with her friends and everything in between. She carries her self with a lot of class. She ended up stay for 3+ hrs just catching up on different things.

Day2: 11 am [URL]https://www.facebook.com/tatiana.jimenezgarcia.7[/URL] very nice girl a bit of baby fat but nothing too bad. 150 k with pics and video. BBBJ, because several positions. COB.

Went out to a quick lunch then took a nap.

4 pm Cristina Arb she has been reviewed before. Arrived on time. I have not seen her in over 3 years when she was barely 19 or 20 way before her accident and child, 200 k she still has baby weight not as good looking as before but is loosing it quick per what she is telling me. Still very good looking with a fat ass, amazing personality. CBJ, CFS, really good hard doggy she really likes it.

8 pm [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100016840396258[/URL] amazing girl, amazing personality, loves to laugh and have fun, fantastic fit body with the best natural fitness full ass I have seen in a long time. She also does webcaming, I am sure she puts on a fantastic show. 300+k BBBJ, CFS, Greek, COF. YMMV. She is not open to greek all the time. Truly amazing site she ended up staying for about 3 hrs ish.

I went out around 11 pm to lleras to see if anything cough my eye. Sat at one of the bars close the park but nothing that cough my attention. Called it a night.

Day3: 11 am [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Karisuperwoow[/URL] amazing young looking teen, just turned 20 95 lbs, arrived on time, super sweet girl, open minded for sure. 250 k, BBBJ, CFS, greek, COF, made her cum at least 3 times. Would definitely recommend.

3 pm [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Geraldihin.[/URL] arrived a bit late but nothing too crazy, 20 yo with super tight body new bolt ONS that are really nice. Lots of smiles and laughs she is very naughty and will do what ever you want for a tip.

8 pm [URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100022027354170[/URL] Holly smokes this chick has an amazing profesional dancer body, arrived on time and has very nice personality. Very relaxed. She said that she has actually toured with a dance company all over Colombia and some other countries in latin america and it shows. BBBJ, CFS, COB every position you want. Had a fantastic time with her.

Day4: 11 am was a no show don't even remember who it was, so I took a cab to Energy and picked up a early 30 fake blonde with large augmented ass. I really don't remember her name. 45 min 65 k, wanted extra 40 for BBBJ so I passed, CFS, several positions. I asked about greek and she said 80 K, I agree with the price and went to town doggy greek covered. She really really likes it. Lots of nalgadas she got really into it. Once she got used to it, she said to do it as hard as I could while I pulled her hair. What a work out! After 5 minutes ish of punishing her backdoor doggy, she flipped and went mish greek with legs up in the air. Finished on her belly. Not bad for 45 minutes.

Walked around el centro it was avery pretty day and I had time to kill until my next one.

4 pm [URL]https://www.facebook.com/kriistenfox07[/URL] I had met her around 2 years ago and had a great time super great smile and personality good body, she has lots of tattoos. We talked for over an HR just catching up and drinking, CBJ, CFS, every position, finished doggy.

That night I was supposed to meet with a civilian that I had met in the past, ended up a no show so ended up in lleras but started to rain pretty hard. So I decided to come back to the condo and called it a night.

Day5: 1:00 pm [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Geraldine.yea[/URL] I had been talking with her on FB for a little while, she has been reviewed here before. She lives about an hour away from MDE, amazing body on her FB pics, but she did just have a baby last month. So I was expecting her to be flabby. 200 k arrived on time good communication. She likes to take lots and lots of selfies. When she arrived I could barely tell she just had a baby less than a month ago. Amazing body, she is nice and bubbly like to smile and is very eager to please. She mentioned that I was the first person she had been with since having the baby. She allowed lots of pics and video, BBBJ with lots of eye contact, we tried mish but she was just way too tight, I grabbed a toy to dilate her a little and that did the trick still took almost 5 minutes to put it in. Had to use lots of lube, once she got used to it switched to doggy. Amazing ass. Finished all over her back.

Took a nap then went out to eat.

19:00 had a arranged a trio with Michel and Geraldine mentioned above, they had never met before but they agreed. I am usually super anti trios because 9/10 they usually are never good. Felt a good vibe about these 2. They arrived about 1 HR late due to the strong rain. We sat around and drank in the condo, then the freak show started. 300 k each full lesbian show that lasted about 2-3 hrs I don't know what time they left but there was no rush. BBBJ, lots of toys, double dildo vag doggy with each other, then one layed down facing up and the other reverse cow girl with double dildo while she BBBJ, then they switched, then they DATY with each other while I CFS doggy and then they switched, double BBBJ, COF for both, cleaned up we all rested for a little drank a bit more. Then round 2 more freaky stuff, Geraldine offered Greek but I was too big for her but she most definitely tried A+ for effort. Then switching doggy between them till finish. We relaxed and cleaned up and sent them on their way.

Relaxed at the condo and order food for delivery and called it a night.

Day6: had to do some shopping in the am and had no plans until 2 pm.

2 pm repeat with Angie, pretty much a repeat of the last time I saw her, man she has the best natural ass I have seen in Colombia she stayed for over 2 hrs.

Did laundry and packed for an early flight the next day.

I went to Dinner with Paula from day 1, she is just amazing arm candy super classy and pretty and has a good personality we always have an amazing time. Went to a bar in Provenza and had some drinks and cam back to the condo and had an amazing time. She ended up staying for 4 hrs. Just had an amazing time.

I did't have time to see others that I wanted to meet like [URL]https://www.facebook.com/melissa.restrepobenavides[/URL] I wish I had time to see her. Seems to be very chill and super willing to please, she said 150 k, BBBJ, CFS, greek, COF. But I just ran out of time. Maybe next time.

Thats about it for this trip. Had a really good time and I was surprised with that all the girls I was with were good performers and no duds. Only 2 no shows which is good in my book.

Everyone stay safe and have fun.

I really don't understand the fascination about phones, however I get it. Some societies view smart phones, or dumb phones as a status symbol, or resell them for little to no money. I am really not sure how much a used smart phones sells for, but it still seems really a petty thing to do.

I have had phones taken from me before, twice in Ethiopia and once in Colombia. In Ethiopia they were the cheapest possible phones I could find. In Colombia it was also a cheap phone.

A few years back, I witnessed a robbery right in front or me when I was in Periera. These two guys were walking by, (they looked to be high school boys) and two other boys approached them and flashed a gun. They stole the phone and ran away. Armed or aggravated robbery seems like a bit much if your stealing a phone. It was the craziest thing to see, and it was right in front of me. I was also staying in a nice safe area at the time.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2310269]I really don't understand the fascination about phones, however I get it. Some societies view smart phones, or dumb phones as a status symbol, or resell them for little to no money. I am really not sure how much a used smart phones sells for, but it still seems really a petty thing to do.

I have had phones taken from me before, twice in Ethiopia and once in Colombia. In Ethiopia they were the cheapest possible phones I could find. In Colombia it was also a cheap phone.

A few years back, I witnessed a robbery right in front or me when I was in Periera. These two guys were walking by, (they looked to be high school boys) and two other boys approached them and flashed a gun. They stole the phone and ran away. Armed or aggravated robbery seems like a bit much if your stealing a phone. It was the craziest thing to see, and it was right in front of me. I was also staying in a nice safe area at the time.[/QUOTE]Two things to consider: First, because of significant tariffs / taxes, these phones can be more expensive in Colombia than in the USA or Canada. Second, the typical Colombian makes about $200-$250 a month. Put those two things together and you can appreciate why these phones are frequently stolen.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2310268]Just returned from a 6 day trip to MDE.

Got in mid afternoon from a very early flight. Stayed at Dunes suites in Poblado 3 blocks from lleras, got in got some supplies and took a nap.

First girl that evening [URL]https://www.facebook.com/paulagp1111[/URL] I have seen her before and she is super chill and her face is gorgeous! She is not a teen I think late 20's but amazing in bed BBBJ, CIM, and all positions you can think of, she can be laid back or she can take you out partying with her friends and everything in between. She carries her self with a lot of class. She ended up stay for 3+ hrs just catching up on different things.

Day2: 11 am [URL]https://www.facebook.com/tatiana.jimenezgarcia.7[/URL] very nice girl a bit of baby fat but nothing too bad. 150 k with pics and video. BBBJ, because several positions. COB.

Went out to a quick lunch then took a nap.[/QUOTE]How much from Paula from Day 1 charge for how many hours?

Hi guys,

I am there in may and need your help / recommendations.

So since the last time in Medellin I said to myself I will learn Spanish but hey work life took over and I didn't, I know very very basics.

Can anyone recommend girls who speak English in Medellin to me? It would much much appropriated and if you are in Medellin in may a few beers on me.

I hate to not know Spanish as it means zero conversation.

You can either reply here or pm me directly, I don't mind Facebook link if you prefer and I can talk with them directly instead of intro.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SallySally;2310360]How much from Paula from Day 1 charge for how many hours?[/QUOTE]When I spoke with her last year she wanted 200 k +50 k extra for bbj + taxi fare. I thought that was a tad high for a FB contact so I didn't pull the trigger.

It's amazing how many of my FB chicas end up having their phones stolen. I collect the old smartphones my family no longer uses, wipe them of personal data and try to unlock them (not always possible), install FB, Whatsapp, and Messenger, and then give them away to certain chicas in need. Gifts that cost me nothing and pay huge dividends later in the bedroom. Personally I only bring a several years old Chinese android smartphone so if I ever do get robbed they won't be getting much.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2310494]Hi guys,

I am there in may and need your help / recommendations.

So since the last time in Medellin I said to myself I will learn Spanish but hey work life took over and I didn't, I know very very basics.

Can anyone recommend girls who speak English in Medellin to me? It would much much appropriated and if you are in Medellin in may a few beers on me.

I hate to not know Spanish as it means zero conversation.

You can either reply here or pm me directly, I don't mind Facebook link if you prefer and I can talk with them directly instead of intro.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't know how many girls you will be able to find. Maybe try The Mansion, or Gustos in Poblado. I have never been there, but from what I have read on the board, its the place to go if you are new, or have limited spanish.

If you want to learn spanish, I know an intensive spanish school also in Poblado. [URL]https://www.blinkspanish.com/[/URL].

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2310268]Just returned from a 6 day trip to MDE.

Got in mid afternoon from a very early flight. Stayed at Dunes suites in Poblado 3 blocks from lleras, got in got some supplies and took a nap.

First girl that evening [URL]https://www.facebook.com/paulagp1111[/URL] I have seen her before and she is super chill and her face is gorgeous! She is not a teen I think late 20's but amazing in bed BBBJ, CIM, and all positions you can think of, she can be laid back or she can take you out partying with her friends and everything in between. She carries her self with a lot of class. She ended up stay for 3+ hrs just catching up on different things.

Day2: 11 am [URL]https://www.facebook.com/tatiana.jimenezgarcia.7[/URL] very nice girl a bit of baby fat but nothing too bad. 150 k with pics and video. BBBJ, because several positions. COB.

Went out to a quick lunch then took a nap..[/QUOTE]Can you send me a PM with Christina Arb's contact info. She knows me.

A while ago someone wrote here if you use your cellphone with a Colombian SIM card and leave the country without registering the IMEI that carriers will block your imei upon returning. I'the like to know if my cellphone will be useless next time I return.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? My carrier was Tigo so maybe changing carrier would help.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310738]A while ago someone wrote here if you use your cellphone with a Colombian SIM card and leave the country without registering the IMEI that carriers will block your imei upon returning. I'the like to know if my cellphone will be useless next time I return.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? My carrier was Tigo so maybe changing carrier would help.[/QUOTE]Then your phone should work. Make friends with these chicas, have them register a phone for you with their cedula or get google-fi and avoid the interruption all together. I have a Colombian phone but Google. Fi was going to be my next option! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310738]A while ago someone wrote here if you use your cellphone with a Colombian SIM card and leave the country without registering the IMEI that carriers will block your imei upon returning. I'the like to know if my cellphone will be useless next time I return.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? My carrier was Tigo so maybe changing carrier would help.[/QUOTE]It will be blocked. I met a chick from Venezuela that lives in Barranquilla. She forgot to register her phone and they shut it off. She was in the process of getting it turned back on. It was stupid. She had to go online and print a form out and fill it out and sign it. But then you call them and give them all the information. I was like well why does it matter if you print the form out or not?

And here is a picture of me holding that very form FROM THAT DAY 2 months ago, so SOME PEOPLE (namely LoveItHere69) will not say I am only talking BS.

That some bad news, never experienced such thing in any other country during my travellings. Can buy myself out for faster process? What is the process like, do I just go to any phone dealer and sign a paper or do I have to wait days with back and forth?

I imagine this isn't possible at the airport? And as a gringo with very little Spanish I won't be functioning without my phone. Great you gave me heads up.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2310768]It will be blocked. I met a chick from Venezuela that lives in Barranquilla. She forgot to register her phone and they shut it off. She was in the process of getting it turned back on. It was stupid. She had to go online and print a form out and fill it out and sign it. But then you call them and give them all the information. I was like well why does it matter if you print the form out or not?

And here is a picture of me holding that very form FROM THAT DAY 2 months ago, so SOME PEOPLE (namely LoveItHere69) will not say I am only talking BS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310738]A while ago someone wrote here if you use your cellphone with a Colombian SIM card and leave the country without registering the IMEI that carriers will block your imei upon returning. I'the like to know if my cellphone will be useless next time I return.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? My carrier was Tigo so maybe changing carrier would help.[/QUOTE]I bought a local SIM card on at least 5 or 6 trips over the past couple of years. I never registered my phone, and it was never blocked. I only stay 2 weeks at a time when I travel, and that may be the reason.

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2310268]19:00 had a arranged a trio with Michel and Geraldine mentioned above, they had never met before but they agreed. I am usually super anti trios because 9/10 they usually are never good. Felt a good vibe about these 2. They arrived about 1 HR late due to the strong rain. We sat around and drank in the condo, then the freak show started. 300 k each full lesbian show that lasted about 2-3 hrs I don't know what time they left but there was no rush. BBBJ, lots of toys, double dildo vag doggy with each other, then one layed down facing up and the other reverse cow girl with double dildo while she BBBJ, then they switched, then they DATY with each other while I CFS doggy and then they switched, double BBBJ, COF for both, cleaned up we all rested for a little drank a bit more. Then round 2 more freaky stuff, Geraldine offered Greek but I was too big for her but she most definitely tried A+ for effort. Then switching doggy between them till finish. We relaxed and cleaned up and sent them on their way.[/QUOTE]I nailed Paula I while back-I thought she was just okay hot, was cool for the most part, and compliant, she did try to upsell me and swing the price, a bit of her hustle--and she def. Is very very high mileage--I think its the same chick. She was a ciggy smoke too- yuck! Luckily, I had some 420 that convinced her not to use her tobacco. Maybe she needed her nicotine fix and that's why she got a little bitchy with me at the end. She stayed 3 hours or so with me, and overall was fine, but I won't repeat. She messaged me asking for another time, so I blocked her LOL.

Couldn't find 'Arb' on FB.

Strong work! I've had Geraldine on my radar for a while, worried a little about the recent kid--but glad you didn't report she had baby belly damage--that just a total vibe killer for me.

Only other concerns: braces! I hate braces on a chicks teeth! LOL! And high mileage.

That Michel chick has some crazy eyes in her photos. I'll be back in MDE this summer. I've learned form the past to not bother setting up contacts and new girls for my rotation until I am about 2 weeks out. Def would be into a threesome like you just had!

If only I had 750 k or more in the bank and could just retire in mde and rotate through hotties for the rest of my days. If only!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2310772]I bought a local SIM card on at least 5 or 6 trips over the past couple of years. I never registered my phone, and it was never blocked. I only stay 2 weeks at a time when I travel, and that may be the reason.[/QUOTE]I get a different sim card every few months when I am in Medellin, never 'registered' - don't even know what that means. Never had a problem. Maybe because my phone is unlocked and not from the US or affiliated wit a US carrier?

Hi Tallman,

Do you have any recommendations on love motels? I tried a few on my last trip, but none were to my liking. Not that I'm that picky either.

Thanks!

-Chicago.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2309495]That is why god created the Love Motels in Medellin, I am using these now almost on a weekly basis, I can make suck a mess of the room and not worry a bit of cleaning it up, and the cost of 25 to 40 mil for 2 to 4 hours can't be beat, heck when I am done with the girl just leave, I usually will give the chica some taxi money or drop her off where I picked her up from.

I have had 3 some's and shared a room and bed with my best colombian amigo and his girl, lot's of fun to be had.

Love Motels are the answer as I too detest those creepy crawly hotel rooms, yuck!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310738]A while ago someone wrote here if you use your cellphone with a Colombian SIM card and leave the country without registering the IMEI that carriers will block your imei upon returning. I'the like to know if my cellphone will be useless next time I return.

Can anyone confirm whether this is true or not? My carrier was Tigo so maybe changing carrier would help.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2310768]It will be blocked. I met a chick from Venezuela that lives in Barranquilla. She forgot to register her phone and they shut it off. She was in the process of getting it turned back on. It was stupid. She had to go online and print a form out and fill it out and sign it. But then you call them and give them all the information. I was like well why does it matter if you print the form out or not?

And here is a picture of me holding that very form FROM THAT DAY 2 months ago, so SOME PEOPLE (namely LoveItHere69) will not say I am only talking BS.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310771]That some bad news, never experienced such thing in any other country during my travellings. Can buy myself out for faster process? What is the process like, do I just go to any phone dealer and sign a paper or do I have to wait days with back and forth?

I imagine this isn't possible at the airport? And as a gringo with very little Spanish I won't be functioning without my phone. Great you gave me heads up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2310772]I bought a local SIM card on at least 5 or 6 trips over the past couple of years. I never registered my phone, and it was never blocked. I only stay 2 weeks at a time when I travel, and that may be the reason.[/QUOTE]Yes it is absolutely true that if you do not register your phone after about 90 days it is done done.

If you simply buy a new sim card each visit then I can see why you don't get it shut down.

And the hassle does not stop as you need a cedula to register your cell phone, the only option I had was a friend registered it for me which brings along a whole new set of problems as I need the friend with me in person at Tigo every time I have an issue.

Finally now for about the past almost one year I have had no issues with my Tigo registered cell phone, knock on wood.

The Tall Man.

Just to confirm all the questions and comments about the P4 P availability during semana santa week. This should put it to rest forever.

Last night, Friday April 19th Good Friday, for 2 hours between 10 PM to 12 AM I trolled Medellin centro (la vera and raudal) and Botero Plaza and the back streets of San Diego (the calf's area) and other than a handful of old skanks there is nothing out, the best I found, and I got her whatsapp was a flaca on a dark back street over in San Diego area.

But today they will be hungry to make some pesos so it will be back to business as usual. Yahoo!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2310494]Can anyone recommend girls who speak English in Medellin to me?[/QUOTE]You will be hard pressed to find any chicas that speak English.

In Colombia, only 4% of the population can speak English and those are the most educated.

It is taught in schools now but for two reasons it is not followed up on:

1) They don't think they will ever have a need for using the language since no one ever speaks it.

2) They are afraid to make mistakes when speaking English.

Costa Rica has the highest percentage of English speakers south of USA at 8% and it is very hard to find one there. It is almost impossible to find in Colombia.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2310967]Yes it is absolutely true that if you do not register your phone after about 90 days it is done done.

If you simply buy a new sim card each visit then I can see why you don't get it shut down.

And the hassle does not stop as you need a cedula to register your cell phone, the only option I had was a friend registered it for me which brings along a whole new set of problems as I need the friend with me in person at Tigo every time I have an issue. [/QUOTE]Let me see if I got this right. You said it will get shut down after 90 days without registering but if you buy a new sim card then it doesn't get shut down.

Solution I buy a new sim card? If they are trying to combat theft then this obviously doesn't make sense, it would mean IMEI is not blocked. Cedula, does that mean I have to meet in person with passport or receipt or would email be enough?

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2310772]I bought a local SIM card on at least 5 or 6 trips over the past couple of years. I never registered my phone, and it was never blocked. I only stay 2 weeks at a time when I travel, and that may be the reason.[/QUOTE]What was you carrier? Did you change carrier each time? I used Tigo with Samsung S8. Looking back, I have received a text from Tigo warning me to register perhaps you didn't get that.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310993]You said it will get shut down after 90 days without registering but if you buy a new sim card then it doesn't get shut down.

Solution I buy a new sim card? If they are trying to combat theft then this obviously doesn't make sense, it would mean IMEI is not blocked. [/QUOTE]The reason for the registration is partly to combat theft but it is also to have certified devices using the countries network. The concept is to keep unsafe devices off the network and to accomplish that they adopted the FCC standard. That is why they are requiring you to register the FCC # of the device.

It is not really the sim card that is of issue.

To avoid visitors and non residents from having to register, they implemented the 90 day rule, which coincides with the length of a typical tourist visa, 90 days.

In theory, as a visitor, when you buy a local sim card and install it into a phone, it is assumed you will be using the phone at most 90 days of your visa and then will be off the network.

If you remain on the network after 90 days, you could be blocked and locked until you can prove that you own the device.

As long as you do not use the phone for more than 90 days, you will never have a problem.

The problem only occurs if you are using their network. If you use an international plan from your USA provider, you would not have any of these requirements, no matter how long you use it.

Lets say a visitor has his phone stolen. A local would be able to use the phone for 90 days and then would either have to prove they own the device or the device would become useless on the Colombian network.

If you are staying longer than the standard visa, just register the phone. It is easy to do and can be done online. If you are just visiting and leaving at the end of a standard 90 day visa, just put a card in it and use it.

She is very much worth the 200 she charges more now and for the over all quality time well worth it. She is not just a FB girl IMO she is the whole package. If you just want a hole to get it in, centro and cases is the best value.

[QUOTE=Talon;2310626]When I spoke with her last year she wanted 200 k +50 k extra for bbj + taxi fare. I thought that was a tad high for a FB contact so I didn't pull the trigger.

It's amazing how many of my FB chicas end up having their phones stolen. I collect the old smartphones my family no longer uses, wipe them of personal data and try to unlock them (not always possible), install FB, Whatsapp, and Messenger, and then give them away to certain chicas in need. Gifts that cost me nothing and pay huge dividends later in the bedroom. Personally I only bring a several years old Chinese android smartphone so if I ever do get robbed they won't be getting much.[/QUOTE].

I think Paula is the whole package vs just a hole. She does't smoke cigars. I think all girls are hustlers some more than others. Also all the girls in MDE are high mileage IMO. If they tell you they are not. They are hustling you. LOL.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2310933]I nailed Paula I while back-I thought she was just okay hot, was cool for the most part, and compliant, she did try to upsell me and swing the price, a bit of her hustle--and she def. Is very very high mileage--I think its the same chick. She was a ciggy smoke too- yuck! Luckily, I had some 420 that convinced her not to use her tobacco. Maybe she needed her nicotine fix and that's why she got a little bitchy with me at the end. She stayed 3 hours or so with me, and overall was fine, but I won't repeat. She messaged me asking for another time, so I blocked her LOL.

Couldn't find 'Arb' on FB.

Strong work! I've had Geraldine on my radar for a while, worried a little about the recent kid--but glad you didn't report she had baby belly damage--that just a total vibe killer for me.

Only other concerns: braces! I hate braces on a chicks teeth! LOL! And high mileage.

That Michel chick has some crazy eyes in her photos. I'll be back in MDE this summer. I've learned form the past to not bother setting up contacts and new girls for my rotation until I am about 2 weeks out. Def would be into a threesome like you just had!

If only I had 750 k or more in the bank and could just retire in mde and rotate through hotties for the rest of my days. If only![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2310494]I hate to not know Spanish as it means zero conversation.[/QUOTE]So why not learn Spanish? When my coworker first showed me latinamericancupid in 2005, I said man if I could speak Spanish I would be the shit. I then learned Spanish. I did not say I hope some of these chicks speak English. Why hope for some of the thousands to be able to speak the language of the one, when the one (yourself) can learn the language of the thousands?

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310993]Let me see if I got this right. You said it will get shut down after 90 days without registering but if you buy a new sim card then it doesn't get shut down.

Solution I buy a new sim card? If they are trying to combat theft then this obviously doesn't make sense, it would mean IMEI is not blocked. Cedula, does that mean I have to meet in person with passport or receipt or would email be enough?[/QUOTE]They block the IMEI. If you look at the paper I posted it talks about registering a used phone and asks for the IMEI. It says nothing about registering a phone numer.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310993]Let me see if I got this right. You said it will get shut down after 90 days without registering but if you buy a new sim card then it doesn't get shut down.

Solution I buy a new sim card? If they are trying to combat theft then this obviously doesn't make sense, it would mean IMEI is not blocked. Cedula, does that mean I have to meet in person with passport or receipt or would email be enough?

What was you carrier? Did you change carrier each time? I used Tigo with Samsung S8. Looking back, I have received a text from Tigo warning me to register perhaps you didn't get that.[/QUOTE]Yes they will block the cell phone (ie IMEI) rendering it useless.

A cedula is the US equivalent of a social security number, used for starting a phone plan or placing utilities or internet service / cable TV in your home in your name, no cell phone carrier will accept you without one so a passport will not work.

The Tall Man.

You can register a phone and SIM card with a foreign passport. Comecel / Claro let's you do it over the internet if you set up a "myclaro" account on their website. You can also prevent a passport in person. I forgot all about the procedures until I got a new phone a few months ago. Sure enough, I started getting text messages and e-mails within a week telling me I had X number of days to register.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2311100]Yes they will block the cell phone (ie IMEI) rendering it useless.

A cedula is the US equivalent of a social security number, used for starting a phone plan or placing utilities or internet service / cable TV in your home in your name, no cell phone carrier will accept you without one so a passport will not work.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

The IMEI registration policy is to combat, narcos, guerillas, and general criminal activity. Registered IMEIs save investigators the time and trouble of electronically tracing or doing physical surveillance to figure out who is involved when an IMEI shows up in the call history of subjects of investigations.

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2311000]The reason for the registration is partly to combat theft but it is also to have certified devices using the countries network. The concept is to keep unsafe devices off the network and to accomplish that they adopted the FCC standard. That is why they are requiring you to register the FCC # of the device.

It is not really the sim card that is of issue.

To avoid visitors and non residents from having to register, they implemented the 90 day rule, which coincides with the length of a typical tourist visa, 90 days.

In theory, as a visitor, when you buy a local sim card and install it into a phone, it is assumed you will be using the phone at most 90 days of your visa and then will be off the network.

If you remain on the network after 90 days, you could be blocked and locked until you can prove that you own the device.

As long as you do not use the phone for more than 90 days, you will never have a problem..[/QUOTE]

I used a foreign passport and registered on the carrier's web site. I had no problem for 4 years. Until I got a new phone. I got texts and emails telling me I had to register. I tried to register from the phone itself via the *611# menu but it did not work for me. I did it on the web site again.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2310967]Yes it is absolutely true that if you do not register your phone after about 90 days it is done done.

If you simply buy a new sim card each visit then I can see why you don't get it shut down.

And the hassle does not stop as you need a cedula to register your cell phone, the only option I had was a friend registered it for me which brings along a whole new set of problems as I need the friend with me in person at Tigo every time I have an issue.

Finally now for about the past almost one year I have had no issues with my Tigo registered cell phone, knock on wood.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2311100]Yes they will block the cell phone (ie IMEI) rendering it useless.

A cedula is the US equivalent of a social security number, used for starting a phone plan or placing utilities or internet service / cable TV in your home in your name, no cell phone carrier will accept you without one so a passport will not work.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Thank you for explaining this so eloquently!! Pollo negro is out!

I have found one she is gorgeous and learning English and is pretty good at it as her boyfriend is from usa, I think I will give her a good tip to ensure I get a good service and she comes back hahaha.

Daytime I don't mind fuck and dump but in evening I prefer a conversation over dinner etc.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2310987]You will be hard pressed to find any chicas that speak English.

In Colombia, only 4% of the population can speak English and those are the most educated.

It is taught in schools now but for two reasons it is not followed up on:

1) They don't think they will ever have a need for using the language since no one ever speaks it.

2) They are afraid to make mistakes when speaking English.

Costa Rica has the highest percentage of English speakers south of USA at 8% and it is very hard to find one there. It is almost impossible to find in Colombia.[/QUOTE]

I already speak 3 languages and I can't be arsed to learn a 4th.

English, Hindi, French.

If I knew about Spanish when I learnt French I would have dumped french and did Spanish. Wish I had now.

The.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2311080]So why not learn Spanish? When my coworker first showed me latinamericancupid in 2005, I said man if I could speak Spanish I would be the shit. I then learned Spanish. I did not say I hope some of these chicks speak English. Why hope for some of the thousands to be able to speak the language of the one, when the one (yourself) can learn the language of the thousands?[/QUOTE]

Hi,

Does having a cedula mean they are over 18 or can under 18 also have one?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=SallySally;2310360]How much from Paula from Day 1 charge for how many hours?[/QUOTE]I saw Paula a few months ago. I think I paid 300-400 k plus taxi both ways for 4 hours but she didn't stay the full time or even close to it. My mistake was I gave her all the money before we started, she looked high class so I thought it would be fine. I got BBJ and was able to face f*k her, then she got on top and immediately started faking it, total turn off but whatever. 1 pop and 45 minutes later, she wants to bounce. I was like I still have a few hours left and I only popped one time, she was like that is all you get and I was like that is fine but I paid for 4 hours so you are staying for that long but she wasn't having it. I could have started a scene but not worth it. Charge it to the game.

Better off with the barrio rats, they are a lot more appreciative than these high mileage chicks.

[QUOTE=DeepakPateluk;2311275]Hi,

Does having a cedula mean they are over 18 or can under 18 also have one?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Minors can have a cedula.

[QUOTE=DeepakPateluk;2311275]Hi,

Does having a cedula mean they are over 18 or can under 18 also have one?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]An actual, real cedula, yes they are at least 18.

Obviously fake cedulas, borrowed and / or stolen cedulas are common.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2311272]I already speak 3 languages and I can't be arsed to learn a 4th.

English, Hindi, French.

If I knew about Spanish when I learnt French I would have dumped french and did Spanish. Wish I had now.

The.[/QUOTE]Then don't learn it, and be another Google translate warrior, LOL.

Recently returned to Medellin and had another great time. Although not necessarily because of the hobby. Medellin continues to be a special city and setting to me. Magical weather that always feels pleasant and spring-like, good restaurants, and an emerging cosmopolitan, world-class culture is emerging. That obviously changes the social scene and I've continually noticed a bit of a downward trend at the top-tier of the action. Where prices are maxing out and a sense of delusion is taking place. Also. The quality at the top-tier isn't what it used to be, seemingly. That said, still a target-rich environment with many great experiences to be had.

For me, I'm not one to dig deep into the el Centro or the local scene looking for diamonds in the rough. I simply don't have enough time as my trips are short (2-4 days). I visited Fase Dos and La Isla twice. Both times were a bit underwhelming. It was the week before holy week so that could've factored in. Then I ended up just not all that interested in the scene and enjoyed the city. For me, it's time for a new experience. I may try Cali. But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?

Actually french and spanish are very similar. If you know french its not that difficult to learn spanish. Both have the same types of conjugation, although some nouns are different. If you can learn the conjugation then your halfway there. Noun, adjectives, adverbs are easy to learn. You don't need to be perfect in spanish, just enough to get your point across. If you stay in Colombia for some time it should be easy to pick it up. Also, Colombian spanish has the most neutral spanish in the world, or at least so I have been told.

Another way to pick up the language is to attend the intensive spanish course I wrote about earlier.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2311453]Actually french and spanish are very similar. If you know french its not that difficult to learn spanish.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I have a degree in French. After that I taught myself Portuguese then was able to learn Spanish on the fly. I have never taken a Spanish class, yet I speak, read, and write Spanish very good. They are all Latin based. Thai was different to learn, but still not really hard for me.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2311468]Exactly. I have a degree in French. After that I taught myself Portuguese then was able to learn Spanish on the fly. I have never taken a Spanish class, yet I speak, read, and write Spanish very good. They are all Latin based. Thai was different to learn, but still not really hard for me.[/QUOTE]Too bad your English isn't so good! LOL.

I have never taken a Spanish class, yet I speak, read, and write Spanish very good.

It's very well, not very good. Just saying'.

I'm just busting chops and using this as a chance to say thanks for your years of contributions to this board. Mr. E you have helped many of us make Medellin less of a. Mystery (see what I did there).

Happy hunting everybody!

[QUOTE=Zhagolo52;2311029]I think Paula is the whole package vs just a hole. She does't smoke cigars. I think all girls are hustlers some more than others. Also all the girls in MDE are high mileage IMO. If they tell you they are not. They are hustling you. LOL.[/QUOTE]I was talking about cigarettes, not cigars. Sorry for the confusion. And agreed-all are hustlers and high mileage! If they say otherwise-that's part of the hustle- yup yup. (except for this one I got off the site 'Badoo' she was 19 when I met her, and def very new at this and low mileage. She messaged me recently, but, now she is 3 years into the game and 22- I am tempted to see her again and see how different she is now--she was so sweet, shy and innocent then!

Sometimes, we vibe with chicks and they vibe with us differently- you probably clicked better with her than I did. As usual- YMMV. Same as it ever was.

Not to have a Colombian girlfriend from the lower stratas, especially one who you know has ever taken money for sex. I have seen this time and time again. For example, I know a girl that I fucked twice a few years back. She has some gringo boyfriend from California and has contacted me more than once offering to see me. I asked about her boyfriend and she offered two reasons why she could see me: 1) "he give me money to cover some expenses, but not for others. So I need money" and 2) I knew you before him so it's OK.

I have heard the second rationale several times. Like knowing me first entitles her to fuck me despite having a boyfriend. It's good for me, but as a gringo I also can't help but being a little ticked about their attitude toward a guy who is trying to help them and may actually care about them.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2311271]I have found one she is gorgeous and learning English and is pretty good at it as her boyfriend is from usa, I think I will give her a good tip to ensure I get a good service and she comes back hahaha.
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[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2311479]but as a gringo I also can't help but being a little ticked about their attitude toward a guy who is trying to help them and may actually care about them.[/QUOTE]Now for my rationale. Any woman that has ever cared about me whether it was from upper, middle, or lower, I have never had to give them money. Like we used to say in Rio, if you want to know how one of these chicks truly feels about you, then show up without money. So why be ticked off about a chick clearly using a guy for such and him letting her?

I was sitting next to a famous singer in the plane one time. He told me that his girlfriend must love him for him, because he does not give her money and he definitely does not sing at home. Money can not buy you love or loyalty; all it can do is rent you some pussy.

I am pretty sure he does not know she is banging other gringos. Not all of us have read the board or had experiences that teach us. But I'm not going to tell him. Not my place. If I knew him, might be different.

I had a "girlfriend" for quite a while. I rarely gave her anything, other than some gifts when I was there (VS panties and lotion). I knew then when she needed money, she was banging a gringo. I did not care. The only deal was that when I was there, she was with me. I never paid her for sex. Just did the normal things a couple would do like go out to eat and drink. It worked out well for quite a while. Problem is that I got bored banging one chica and started to stray.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2311495] So why be ticked off about a chick clearly using a guy for such and him letting her?

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2311495]Now for my rationale. Any woman that has ever cared about me whether it was from upper, middle, or lower, I have never had to give them money. Like we used to say in Rio, if you want to know how one of these chicks truly feels about you, then show up without money. So why be ticked off about a chick clearly using a guy for such and him letting her?

I was sitting next to a famous singer in the plane one time. He told me that his girlfriend must love him for him, because he deos not give her money and he definitely does not sing at home. Money can not buy you love or loyalty; all it can do is rent you some pussy.[/QUOTE]Wise words sir. I've had a couple of WG treating me great without money and offering dinner at their place but of course they were not 9's or 10's because those got way to much clients lined up, I didn't go further with them and sometimes declined invitations. But I am intrigued to know what would happen and what their true intention / loyalty were, was it only to get more money out of me or did they actually care. I know some would love a gringo to take them out of poverty. On the other hand, I believe I could never trust a hooker to be anything more than a hooker.

[QUOTE=DeepakPateluk;2311275]Hi,

Does having a cedula mean they are over 18 or can under 18 also have one?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are two types of personal ID cards for Colombians. For adults, there is a cedula de ciudadania; for minors, there is a tarjeta de identadad. They look similar, but there are major differences if looking at them side by side. I don't recall what the differences are.

In answer to your question, technically, if they have a cedula, they are adults. But cedula translates to identification card, and minors have an identification card.

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2310993]...What was you carrier? Did you change carrier each time? I used Tigo with Samsung S8. Looking back, I have received a text from Tigo warning me to register perhaps you didn't get that.[/QUOTE]I have always used Claro. I have never gotten a text message from them asking me to register, but when I travel again to Medellin, I get a new SIM card as they are cheap. I have always been able to use the new SIM card for both voice and data. But I am there for only 2 weeks at a time.

I agree with you on the top tear. It has definitely gone down hill, I think with the influx of gringos with no negotiating skills willing to pay US, EU prices for the girls has diluted the field a lot, it wasn't uncommon to walk around and pick up 9's with out a problem a few years back. Now 7-8 are asking $200 USD+ because some gringo has payed them that in the past. Also the influx of Venezuelans has affected the over all market not sure if positive or negative way.

I am also thinking of taking a trip to Brazil, I have never been either, but I hear nothing but good things.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311446]Recently returned to Medellin and had another great time. Although not necessarily because of the hobby. Medellin continues to be a special city and setting to me. Magical weather that always feels pleasant and spring-like, good restaurants, and an emerging cosmopolitan, world-class culture is emerging. That obviously changes the social scene and I've continually noticed a bit of a downward trend at the top-tier of the action. Where prices are maxing out and a sense of delusion is taking place. Also. The quality at the top-tier isn't what it used to be, seemingly. That said, still a target-rich environment with many great experiences to be had.

For me, I'm not one to dig deep into the el Centro or the local scene looking for diamonds in the rough. I simply don't have enough time as my trips are short (2-4 days). I visited Fase Dos and La Isla twice. Both times were a bit underwhelming. It was the week before holy week so that could've factored in. Then I ended up just not all that interested in the scene and enjoyed the city. For me, it's time for a new experience. I may try Cali. But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311446]I simply don't have enough time as my trips are short (2-4 days). I visited Fase Dos and La Isla twice. Both times were a bit underwhelming.[/QUOTE]I'm nt sure what you expected to find there. They are 2 of the most expensive places in MDE, full of false and overpaid wannabees. Short of time. Seems natural that you would be underwhelmed by those places. I have plenty of time in MDE and would be underwhelmed there every time. If you only have 2-4 days, why not take up specific girl references?

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2311415]I saw Paula a few months ago. I think I paid 300-400 k plus taxi both ways for 4 hours but she didn't stay the full time or even close to it. My mistake was I gave her all the money before we started, she looked high class so I thought it would be fine. I got BBJ and was able to face f*k her, then she got on top and immediately started faking it, total turn off but whatever. 1 pop and 45 minutes later, she wants to bounce. I was like I still have a few hours left and I only popped one time, she was like that is all you get and I was like that is fine but I paid for 4 hours so you are staying for that long but she wasn't having it. I could have started a scene but not worth it. Charge it to the game.

Better off with the barrio rats, they are a lot more appreciative than these high mileage chicks.[/QUOTE]IMO, these girls only try to get away with it, bcos guys like you cave in without a fight. Its your prerogative, but its causes others problems.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2311571]IMO, these girls only try to get away with it, bcos guys like you cave in without a fight. Its your prerogative, but its causes others problems.[/QUOTE]Boy you never everrrrr pay first. She has no reason to act right and follow through with them demands you have. She already got her money. I made this mistake one time in the Dr. It was with a repeat on several trips she tried to bounce after 1 pop when we agreed to 2 pops but I had already given her the money. Once I expressed my annoyance she wanted to finish by then I was out of the mood. Safe to say. I never took her again. *****s are working girls. You may not want to treat them that way. But it's the way of things.

[QUOTE=KillaCam11;2311415]I saw Paula a few months ago. I think I paid 300-400 k plus taxi both ways for 4 hours but she didn't stay the full time or even close to it. My mistake was I gave her all the money before we started, she looked high class so I thought it would be fine. I got BBJ and was able to face f*k her, then she got on top and immediately started faking it, total turn off but whatever. 1 pop and 45 minutes later, she wants to bounce. I was like I still have a few hours left and I only popped one time, she was like that is all you get and I was like that is fine but I paid for 4 hours so you are staying for that long but she wasn't having it. I could have started a scene but not worth it. Charge it to the game.

Better off with the barrio rats, they are a lot more appreciative than these high mileage chicks.[/QUOTE]She tried to get me to pay upfront as well. I refused and told her she could leave. After the 1st pop she tried to get paid for 3-4 hours and go, again, I refused, and showed her our messages. She then developed a little attitude which I diffused with weed. We then went for round 2--which was fine-though not the best ever. After round 2 I paid, she immediately texted a friend and said she had a ride coming and had to go in like 5 minutes--she then stayed on the balcony smoking at least 3 cigs for 20-30 minutes with minimal small talk and a little attitude before she finally left. Like I posted earlier, she messaged me days later and I blocked her.

I met another chick, from Tinder, SARAY a true 10 in looks, 8-9 in service but wanted 400 k plus taxi for 2.5-3 hours when all was said and done and 2 pops. We settled on on 350 including taxi, since the whatsapp said 300 plus taxi. Whatever. I would condier her again because she was a true 10 in looks. Just unreal. A dream in every way in the looks department with good enough service--though I had to go through more effort than I like to get her to BBBJ-who wants it sucked while covered?

Point is: if she is the hottest thing ever I will consider a 2nd time even if there were some annoyances the 1st--for me, that wasn't Paula. Chick is past her prime, jaded, and not worth the potential headache.

Ultimately, decided against Saray for a 2nd time on that trip --I will message her in July when I am there again.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311446]Magical weather that always feels pleasant and spring-like[/QUOTE]Funny you should say that since it has been raining everyday for about a month. Good for me because it keeps the noise level down and its good sleeping weather.

A girl from another part of Colombia recently said to me, "esa no es la ciudad de la eterna primavera sí no la ciudad de la eterna llovedera"

Pay any indie up front and you have to accept whatever happens next. It's that simple. As long as there are comparable providers who accept my payment terms, I just move on from those who don't.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2311571]IMO, these girls only try to get away with it, bcos guys like you cave in without a fight. Its your prerogative, but its causes others problems.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2311501]I am pretty sure he does not know she is banging other gringos. Not all of us have read the board or had experiences that teach us. But I'm not going to tell him. Not my place. If I knew him, might be different.

I had a "girlfriend" for quite a while. I rarely gave her anything, other than some gifts when I was there (VS panties and lotion). I knew then when she needed money, she was banging a gringo. I did not care. The only deal was that when I was there, she was with me. I never paid her for sex. Just did the normal things a couple would do like go out to eat and drink. It worked out well for quite a while. Problem is that I got bored banging one chica and started to stray.[/QUOTE]They are all banging other guys, the stupid gringo who does not believe this is lying to himself, oh I have heard from a few gringo guys "but this girl is different" or "she surely would not mess up a good thing as I support her with sending her money each week", ahhhhhh they don't give a shit about feelings or honesty or morals or loyalty, it all comes down to lack of respect, almost NO paisa chica respects any man and for sure especially if you are a gringo.

I know as I have been on both ends of the stick, the best advice I have ever gotten here is DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING OR ANY CHICA SERIOUS.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2311726]They are all banging other guys, the stupid gringo who does not believe this is lying to himself, oh I have heard from a few gringo guys "but this girl is different" or "she surely would not mess up a good thing as I support her with sending her money each week", ahhhhhh they don't give a shit about feelings or honesty or morals or loyalty, it all comes down to lack of respect, almost NO paisa chica respects any man and for sure especially if you are a gringo.

I know as I have been on both ends of the stick, the best advice I have ever gotten here is DO NOT TAKE ANYTHING OR ANY CHICA SERIOUS.[/QUOTE]Why would you even care? I guess for me being a player it really does not matter. The ones I don't have to give money to, I do not expect them to be with only me. I most certainly would not expect any chick I had to give money to to only be with me, since for certain they would be with me because I am a cash cow.

I was messing with this one chick in Thailand March 2017. Never had to give her money or anything. She worked and lived at a hotel. I had to leave and go back to the States for my aunt's funeral. Still talked to her everyday. Came back at the end of May and she kept saying she had something to tell me, but would never spit it out, so I stopped talking to her. That July I surprised her at her job and saw she had a baby bump. So that is what she had to tell me! While I was away at my aunt's funeral she was fucking some deadbeat guy from Texas and got pregnant.

The shit was funny to me. Then in perfect women fashion she tried to blame me and say it was my fault she was fucking the other guy. I was like all I did was leave to go to my aunt's funeral. We kept fucking while she was pregnant. We are still good friends and every now and then I bring up how she cheated on me and she still blames me! Of course we still fuck sometimes. Hell why not, it is free and sometimes she even cooks for me. Her little son loves me and always tries to go with me when I am leaving.

Most recently me and a nurse chick in Bogota have been kicking it. When I first met her she told me about a guy from my city that she met but he no longer returns her messages. We went and fucked right then and she had to hurry and get back to work because she was only on a break. This chick was a superfreak. I told my main wingman about it and he asked are you talking about so and so? I said yep that is her. He said he stopped responding to her messages because he had no intention of returning to Bogota.

So she always sends me these freaky pictures and videos. He said she has never sent anything like that to him. We went on a trip to Melgar at the end of last month. When we came back from the trip my wingman told me that she had been sending him messages the whole time. So I guess we were laying next to each other and she was messaging dudes while I was messaging chicks. LOL. Don't really matter to me. It is not like I have to give her money or we have any type of commitment.

And as always YMMV. She keeps asking him for money, but has never asked me for 1 peso. (Even when I was jumping into an Uber and she was going to take a taxi home, she did not ask money for that.) My wing wants me to tell her that we know each other to see the look on her face, but I told him that I am not going to tell her shit. She might be embarrassed and not want to fuck me anymore!

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311446]For me, I'm not one to dig deep into the el Centro or the local scene looking for diamonds in the rough. I simply don't have enough time as my trips are short (2-4 days). I visited Fase Dos and La Isla twice. Both times were a bit underwhelming. It was the week before holy week so that could've factored in. Then I ended up just not all that interested in the scene and enjoyed the city. For me, it's time for a new experience. I may try Cali. But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and had a similar experience in Medellin when I visited the city for the first time few months back.

Cali isn't a bad option but tourism lacks a bit and city isn't pretty as Medellin.

Just came back from Cali few weeks ago and will try to put some report together on Cali section.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2311569]I'm nt sure what you expected to find there. They are 2 of the most expensive places in MDE, full of false and overpaid wannabees. Short of time. Seems natural that you would be underwhelmed by those places. I have plenty of time in MDE and would be underwhelmed there every time. If you only have 2-4 days, why not take up specific girl references?[/QUOTE]I've actually been quite pleased w / the top-tier spots in recent trips. I found the hottest (9's and even a couple of 10's) to be at the top-tier spots. But of course you get charged a premium and the gringo tax there. I did have some pleasant experiences at some more local casas. But because of my limited time there. I just wanted to visit spots with the highest ratios of 9's and 10's. But I'm finding that to be a real challenge now. Again. I think it's an abundance of riches in the mid-tier (6's, 7's & 8's everywhere) - but at the truly top-end I've found that quality has been harder to find.

Re: specific references. I've found that one's tastes (in all things artistic) is a subjective exercise. As such, I haven't had much luck with other's suggestions. I more look for a suggestion as a venue to visit so that I can decipher through the talent myself. Perhaps I've overlooked some of the more local clubs (like Luna Lunera and Barra Ejectivo) - you're prob right that I need to switch it up.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2311714]Funny you should say that since it has been raining everyday for about a month. Good for me because it keeps the noise level down and its good sleeping weather.

A girl from another part of Colombia recently said to me, "esa no es la ciudad de la eterna primavera s no la ciudad de la eterna llovedera"[/QUOTE]Haha. I must've gotten lucky as the two days that I was there there was abundant sunshine. Much to my pleasant surprise.

[QUOTE=OldBelly69;2311800]Thanks for the report and had a similar experience in Medellin when I visited the city for the first time few months back.

Cali isn't a bad option but tourism lacks a bit and city isn't pretty as Medellin.

Just came back from Cali few weeks ago and will try to put some report together on Cali section.[/QUOTE]That is part of the magical draw to Medellin, isn't it? It's such a pretty setting and I always feel great about visiting (outside of the hobby). One reason I really didn't like Panama City was that outside of the hobby, I found the city / setting to be pretty depressing. I've heard good things about Cali (less gringos, more authenticity) - but have also heard that the scene isn't abundant (though some great trip reports say otherwise). I've been to Cartagena and after 2 days I'm always ready to go. I could stay in Medellin for months and love it because of the larger culture.

Have you been to Brazil? I'm wondering how it compares.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311446]...... But everyone keeps saying I need to experience Brazil (Rio & Sao Paulo). I've never been. Curious as to the Colombian veterans here - what do you think of Brazil in comparison to Medellin?[/QUOTE]I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.

[QUOTE=ThadMax;2311857]That is part of the magical draw to Medellin, isn't it? It's such a pretty setting and I always feel great about visiting (outside of the hobby). One reason I really didn't like Panama City was that outside of the hobby, I found the city / setting to be pretty depressing. I've heard good things about Cali (less gringos, more authenticity) - but have also heard that the scene isn't abundant (though some great trip reports say otherwise). I've been to Cartagena and after 2 days I'm always ready to go. I could stay in Medellin for months and love it because of the larger culture.

Have you been to Brazil? I'm wondering how it compares.[/QUOTE]I have two tours of duty, hehehehe, in Brazil but this was back in 2000, WTF! I can't hardly believe it has been 19 years, so my comparison between Medellin and Rio or SP is too dated. Had fun though both times, oh and the scene at HELP disco in Rio was incredible (but it is long gone).

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2311858]I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Great post, not a big fan of either place. I think Moscow and Mexico are both better destinations, but Colombia is far better then Rio. Rio is just too dangerous, and more expensive then Colombia. I was real disappointed in in Rio, way over rated.

If you shop around and book far enough in advance you can get US East Coast to Brazil fares in the $300 to $400 range off season, but there is nothing you can do about that extra flying time. Brazil is really terrific. I can see visiting more often as work commitments transition to retirement.

[QUOTE=Wolf662;2311858]I can say for us in S Fla that Medellin is 3. 5 HR flight at $300+- (Spirit) and Rio is $950+ and 10 HR to 27 hrs depending on airlines and layovers.

The $650 diff in ticket prices will buy me a lot of cute Colombians. Plus I speak Spanish, not Portuguese. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

I've noticed a substantial increase in the number of Vzs over the past few months in El Centro which isn't surprising. It almost seems as there are more of them than the Colombians working the area around the Museum, the Church, and the back streets during the daytime.

My Colombian regulars have told tell me that a lot of the Vzs are going for as low as 15 K and it has caused them a lot of lost business because of the price undercutting. A lot of them congregate in groups in the park adjacent to the Museum and in the closed off area between the Museum and Church in front of Hotel Premier Plaza.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2311479]Not to have a Colombian girlfriend from the lower stratas, especially one who you know has ever taken money for sex. I have seen this time and time again. For example, I know a girl that I fucked twice a few years back. She has some gringo boyfriend from California and has contacted me more than once offering to see me. I asked about her boyfriend and she offered two reasons why she could see me: 1) "he give me money to cover some expenses, but not for others. So I need money" and 2) I knew you before him so it's OK.

I have heard the second rationale several times. Like knowing me first entitles her to fuck me despite having a boyfriend. It's good for me, but as a gringo I also can't help but being a little ticked about their attitude toward a guy who is trying to help them and may actually care about them.[/QUOTE]If you're in the mongering game and you're expecting any kind of loyalty, it's time to find a new hobby.

If a girl has a gringo boyfriend sending her money, what makes you think she has only 1? Why should she limit herself? Why shouldn't she be making more on the side? Why shouldn't she be looking for someone who will send her more money? It's her job.

If someone offered to hire you for a job that allowed you to keep your current job, would you accept? If someone offered you a job that pays double, would you accept? If someone offered you a chance to make a week's pay working 1 day of your time off, would you accept? Or should you be loyal to your employer?

Too many guys fall in love with whatever girl tells them "mi amor, tan grande. " If you think it's love, take her to the embassy in Bogota and get a fiance visa, take her to the US and marry her.

I don't care if she has a boyfriend, gringo or Colombian. As long as you're paying she doesn't care if you have a girlfriend or wife.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2311539]There are two types of personal ID cards for Colombians. For adults, there is a cedula de ciudadania; for minors, there is a tarjeta de identadad. They look similar, but there are major differences if looking at them side by side. I don't recall what the differences are.

In answer to your question, technically, if they have a cedula, they are adults. But cedula translates to identification card, and minors have an identification card.[/QUOTE]I'll have to dig into my laptop, for some cedula photos, this weekend. The cedula is white with very dark gray lettering. On the front is the photo and the number along with their full name. On the back is the date and place of birth. A Venezuelan cedula has a red band across the top, if I remember correctly. It has the date of birth on the front.

[QUOTE=DramaFree11;2311956]Great post, not a big fan of either place. I think Moscow and Mexico are both better destinations, but Colombia is far better then Rio. Rio is just too dangerous, and more expensive then Colombia. I was real disappointed in in Rio, way over rated.[/QUOTE]Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

São Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.

Love them both.

Brazil better IMO.

Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.

Whaaaaat?? LOL.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2312186]Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

So Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

Brazil better IMO.

[/QUOTE]I live in Medellin and spend about 95% of the year in Colombia so I'm interested in checking out Rio for a change of scenery. The flights are only about $400 USD. I've always heard what you expressed about Brazil being on another level.

[QUOTE=Surfer50;2312113]I've noticed a substantial increase in the number of Vzs over the past few months in El Centro which isn't surprising. It almost seems as there are more of them than the Colombians working the area around the Museum, the Church, and the back streets during the daytime.

My Colombian regulars have told tell me that a lot of the Vzs are going for as low as 15 K and it has caused them a lot of lost business because of the price undercutting. A lot of them congregate in groups in the park adjacent to the Museum and in the closed off area between the Museum and Church in front of Hotel Premier Plaza.[/QUOTE]True as again last night I was in centro, again hehehehe, with my best Colombian amigo who settled in on a venie, him his venie and my paisa at about 11 PM last night then we went to that motel nearby for 3 hours.

Lets dispel the myth about 15 mil sex with any venie, I wish it was true but this is becoming an urban myth. Believe me as 2 weeks ago I was in Cucuta and searched far and wide for the mythical 10 mil sex with a venie, just not true and truth be told glad it is not true.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2312186]Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

So Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.

Love them both.

Brazil better IMO.

Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.

Whaaaaat?? LOL.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Rio regularly, but have not been there is years. I do Costa Rica and MTY. But have been thinking about Columbia. Which is the best city to see on my first trip?? I am fluent in Spanish so that's no issue.

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312224]Which is the best city to see on my first trip?? [/QUOTE]Subjective but usually people choose between Cartagena, Bogota, Medellin or Cali. You can read through the various threads to see what might appeal to your particular taste.

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312224]I used to go to Rio regularly, but have not been there is years. I do Costa Rica and MTY. But have been thinking about Columbia. Which is the best city to see on my first trip??[/QUOTE]If you want hot weather, a beach, and easy to find women (but limited quantity compared to Bogota and Medellin), Cartegena. If you want cool to cold weather with lots of women, Bogota. If you want weather not too hot nor too cold, and plenty of women that you will have to put a little effort into finding, Medellin. You will get more for your money in Medellin with women, food, and lodging.

I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2312205]True as again last night I was in centro, again hehehehe, with my best Colombian amigo who settled in on a venie, him his venie and my paisa at about 11 PM last night then we went to that motel nearby for 3 hours.

Lets dispel the myth about 15 mil sex with any venie, I wish it was true but this is becoming an urban myth. Believe me as 2 weeks ago I was in Cucuta and searched far and wide for the mythical 10 mil sex with a venie, just not true and truth be told glad it is not true.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It's not a myth about the 15 mil sex. Three of my Colombian regulars have confirmed this. However, I have no idea what these Vzs look like. I do know for a fact that the going rate for the Colombians can be as low as 20 K as I have been quoted this price by several of them, however they were not hotties.

The Vzs are desperate in my opinion, and I can easily see them dropping their prices, especially the very plain ones to make money. Additionally, a Colombian should easily do better than a foreigner when it comes to pricing with them. So with that being said it might be very difficult for a foreigner to get a Vzs for 15 K. My experience with the Vzs in El Centro has been mixed. The nicer ones have quoted me 30 K which is the going rate for a nice Colombian on the streets. However a few quoted me 50 K and I just laughed at them and told them good luck.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2312186]Haha, I was going to post just the opposite!

I'm in Brazil for a couple weeks every month.

So Paulo and Rio.

They both rock!

To me they're on a different level, both higher and lower actually, LOL.

The only advantage I see to Colombia for mongering is closer proximity to USA / Canada, etc for travel purposes.

Love them both.

Brazil better IMO.

Don't know what the previous poster experienced in Rio, but damn, not to enjoy Rio.

Whaaaaat?? LOL.[/QUOTE]Sorry, respectably disagree. Both Mexico and Colombia are way better then Rio for me, Russia / Parts of Europe, blow both of them away. I am sure S. P. Is much more my style, but I have no desire to go ever back to Brazil major let down. I will leave out the details, but not for me.

The reality is I'm not going to give out numbers. These girls are my friends. Poblado is a unique part of medellin. Personally, I find richer experiences in local's spots. You guys need to explore.

Today is El Dia Sin Carro in Medellin. It's an annual event due to the extreme level of air pollution. I first found out through an email from Uber. The fine if caught driving your vehicle today is about $130 USD. There are some exceptions. Anyway, the streets are nice and quiet today and it almost feels like a Sunday. For those trying to get an Uber today, good luck!

[QUOTE=HasideasTao;2312265]The reality is I'm not going to give out numbers. These girls are my friends. Poblado is a unique part of medellin. Personally, I find richer experiences in local's spots. You guys need to explore.[/QUOTE]Good to hear about Poblado. That's where I'm staying. I'm looking for more like TLN / repeat / non pros than I am spa girls. So Poblado I think will be nice for this.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]You will get more for your money in Medellin with women[/QUOTE]People have been posting good reports for Bogota with good prices and talk of an influx of Venezolanas. I haven't been to Bogota but have lived in Medellin for a few years. Just curious why you think "you will get more for your money in Medellin with women."

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.[/QUOTE]There are many different types of mongers. Many of the Rio mongers were the same as the Sosua mongers. They could be on one block (Meia Pataca and Help - I remember getting on a flight and seeing a guy with more gold on than Mr. T. I told him not to go down to Rio with all of that jewelry. He said that is okay, I am going no further than Help.) and there would be as many chicks as they could handle for the rest of their lives. It was all point and click for them. I was giving chicks $25 for all night back then. When Help Disco closed, that area dried up for that style of mongering.

Now the only place like that is Mab's at the other end of the beach and it is an old shell of how it was before. You can only find a hand full of chicks (some decent, most below decent) there late at night and many want too much money. The type of monger that learned how to speak Portuguese and/or had already ventured out to the places downtown or had learned to dig chicks up on the websites are still holding strong.

Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.

Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. But I would not be caught dead paying those prices. Besides, many of the chicks are from different countries like DR and Colombia, and you know they did not travel to a different country to charge LESS money. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. Same thing in Medellin. You got guys doing the gringo thing (Facebook and Gustos) and paying 5 to 10 times the price or guys going to the cheaper local spots and fucking the same girls for way less. It is all according to your style of mongering.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312273]

Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. [/QUOTE]I knew a guy that lived in San Jose and he showed me a lot of the local spots throughout the city. I had some epic sessions and memorable experiences in those places off the beaten path. Haven't been to San Jose in years but I would definitely hit those spots again if I go back. The gulch was always decent but I wouldn't do Jaco again.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2312201]I live in Medellin and spend about 95% of the year in Colombia so I'm interested in checking out Rio for a change of scenery. The flights are only about $400 USD. I've always heard what you expressed about Brazil being on another level.[/QUOTE]I really enjoy the Brasileira.

Maybe because I'm there so much, I've built quite the stable of "girlfriends".

São Paulo has the low and high end CLínicas / prives, similar to casas in Medellin.

Also plenty of low to high end nighttime clubs for mongering activity.

Rio has the beach obviously, the layed back atmosphere.

Between the daytime CLínicas / prives, termas, and low end areas, I keep very busy and happy.

Love Colombia too!

Heading to Medellin this weekend.

Brasil is my numero uno, Colombia as we all know, Rocks as well!

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2312244]If you want hot weather, a beach, and easy to find women (but limited quantity compared to Bogota and Medellin), Cartegena. If you want cool to cold weather with lots of women, Bogota. If you want weather not too hot nor too cold, and plenty of women that you will have to put a little effort into finding, Medellin. You will get more for your money in Medellin with women, food, and lodging.

I am curious why you gave up Rio. Was it the distance? I've never been there, but if it is as good as many people say, I can't imagine anyone using Costa Rica as a substitute.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.

I have had a lot of good times in Poblado. With girls and guys who I consider my friends. The key point being the best times were with people who I was able to build rapport, trust and respect. Those when rapport seemed to come much faster and easier than others. We all know a complicated interracion within the first minutes of meeting someone. That is your signal to excuse yourself and move on. Oh....and that taught me better spanish LOL which gives me the advantage of surviing in other parts of the city I consider less touristy. Almost every barrio hasa square with a church. These are great places to go, have a coffee and people watch. Paisas are extremely friendly and often initiate first contact beause they are curious about foreigners. I guess when you get past the first impressions, its not about money.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312273]

Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.
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I wanted to edit my previous post but I waited more than 60 minutes to do so while I left the page open so I was unable to do so. So here it is...

I have had a lot of good times in Poblado. With girls and guys who I consider my friends. A lot of people have their agenda. Recently having met some great peopl and restarting with some from the past, I want my key point to be the best moments were and are with people who I was able to build rapport, trust and respect. It could be in any part of Medellin. However, I'm not perfect either. Selfish? In reference to you guys here, I have often felt I was responsable for making what could be a boring time a GREAT time because of my help with translations, knowledge of the city new places, good food and attempts at avoiding problems, crowds, rip offs scams etc. And therefore felt underappreciated because a friend invited me out on their vacation. But ends up being a lot more expesive than I would normally do. So I guess "invite" is a grey area and since I am really uncomfortable and awkaward about asking someone to pay for my stuff I feel a little screwed. LOL. But because they invited me and we have good rapport I say yes when I should have said no or maybe, "I don't have the money for that right now. " I hope remembering to say this will help things go better for me financially in the future.

Anyway. Those people with whom rapport seemed to come much faster and easier than others. Sometimes even instantly! Even though this board is about hooking up, having good times with good people are the situations and memories we try to create. We all know a complicated interracion within the first minutes. That is your signal to excuse yourself and move on. I guess if you can get past the first impressions, its not about money. Oh. And being in the middle, has also helped me learn better spanish LOL which gives me the advantage of confidence in other parts of the city I consider less touristy.

Even though I know A LOT of what is said in this forum is B. S. , projections of what we imagine, hot air, people making provocations, and a lot of guys pretending to be someone else. I must remind myself because I FORGET that the subject matter is sensitive. I know most of the time I come here I am in alterred states and at times didn't even remember what I wrote, probably stressed out, tired or buzzed. For a long time, what started as just a distraction at home feeling lonely, has become an avenue to vent my own personal frustrations and simply to change my focus from other pressing real life issues as I am sure many others do. I get private messages and I respond with what I think people want to hear. Its a faceless community and it seems like more or less the same things get repeated and I just get desensitized because I want to think whoever is writing to me, I probably will never meet and they are just amped to go on vacation and the details arent really too important so I just say whatever even though my personal choices are different.

Going forward, I know what is right and wrong and not simply what is convenient. Even though this forum is for sharing information and entertainment I have said things without thought that when looking back, I personally think have crossed some lines. Some of which I wish I could edit, correct or even take them back. Sooooo getting back on track with some actual useful information, let me recommend the Spanish language program, The Pimsler Approach, once again! I used to listen to those discs in my car. They are conversational and situational lessons. I had them memorized! (One of the best tools in my learning process of Spanish). Furthermore, as most people know but may not think about is that almost every barrio has a square with a church. These are great places to go, have a coffee and people watch. Floresta for example is a nice part of the city, not too out of the way and always has something going on in the park. Families, kids, dogs horse rides, and an interesting variety of foods and restaurants. Arepas stuffed with everything, burgers and hot dogs, fresh healthy juices for 2 - 3 mil that you would pay $7 in the states, You may be surprised. Paisas are extremely friendly and often initiate first contact beause they are curious about foreigners and they don't care if your Spanish is terrible. LOL Just as long as you seem relaxed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312273]There are many different types of mongers. Many of the Rio mongers were the same as the Sosua mongers. They could be on one block (Meia Pataca and Help - I remember getting on a flight and seeing a guy with more gold on than Mr. T. I told him not to go down to Rio with all of that jewelry. He said that is okay, I am going no further than Help.) and there would be as many chicks as they could handle for the rest of their lives. It was all point and click for them. I was giving chicks $25 for all night back then. When Help Disco closed, that area dried up for that style of mongering.

Now the only place like that is Mab's at the other end of the beach and it is an old shell of how it was before. You can only find a hand full of chicks (some decent, most below decent) there late at night and many want too much money. The type of monger that learned how to speak Portuguese and/or had already ventured out to the places downtown or had learned to dig chicks up on the websites are still holding strong.

Same thing with Medellin. Many mongers on this thread do not leave the Parque Lleras area of Poblado. If something happened and no more hookers could or would come to Poblado, many would just not go anymore, instead of learning Spanish, the ropes downtown, or other ways to find chicks. In short, when the point and click goes away, so do many of the mongers.

Costa Rica has the Del Rey Hotel which is point and click. It also has Jaco. But I would not be caught dead paying those prices. Besides, many of the chicks are from different countries like DR and Colombia, and you know they did not travel to a different country to charge LESS money. I would rather go to the downtown casas that the locals go to. Same thing in Medellin. You got guys doing the gringo thing (Facebook and Gustos) and paying 5 to 10 times the price or guys going to the cheaper local spots and fucking the same girls for way less. It is all according to your style of mongering.[/QUOTE]Just the mention of HELP in Rio and my heart starts beating faster, and my 2 visits to SP and Rio were back in 2000 yep 19 years ago. The memories will be with me till the day I am on the other side of the ground.

Must agree that if not for Poblado and Park Lleras 90% of the mongers would never come, sad but to each his own. I only go to Poblado when a friend pushes me there for a meal or have a drink.

Same with the high end men's clubs, I never go BUT last night a Colombian amigo wanted to check out Fase Dos, so paid the 10 mil and went inside for an hour with him, this was my first return in about a year or more, and guess what I counted about 100 total hombres and 85 were gringos, and the plastic chicas were, I should say are, simply gross to me and an insult to my taste, no thank you. Well good I don't have to re-visit this shit hole for another year or two. Again IMHO.

I have the same opine for Gustos and the FB chicas, no thanks, just over priced pussy, listen in, in decades past the tall man was married to a russian model so I don't need absolute beauty (perfectly symmetrical face) but rather the girl next door type which there are hordes of them here in Colombia that fit that bill perfectly.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2312250]It's not a myth about the 15 mil sex. Three of my Colombian regulars have confirmed this. However, I have no idea what these Vzs look like. I do know for a fact that the going rate for the Colombians can be as low as 20 K as I have been quoted this price by several of them, however they were not hotties.

The Vzs are desperate in my opinion, and I can easily see them dropping their prices, especially the very plain ones to make money. Additionally, a Colombian should easily do better than a foreigner when it comes to pricing with them. So with that being said it might be very difficult for a foreigner to get a Vzs for 15 K. My experience with the Vzs in El Centro has been mixed. The nicer ones have quoted me 30 K which is the going rate for a nice Colombian on the streets. However a few quoted me 50 K and I just laughed at them and told them good luck.[/QUOTE]Other than an exception of the glue sniffing shanks in centro who need 10 or 15 mil for a another hit of glue this is a MYTH.

A month ago I was in Cucuta and I heard the same from a Colombian part time street hooker, that you can get full sex at Park Mercedes in centro Cucuta for 5 MIL, yes 5 MIL, so I task her to show me, my god I would not stick your dick in that pussy and it was not 5 mil but rather 20 mil and not a peso less.

Yes the venies are desperate but within reason.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2312556]Other than an exception of the glue sniffing shanks in centro who need 10 or 15 mil for a another hit of glue this is a MYTH.

A month ago I was in Cucuta and I heard the same from a Colombian part time street hooker, that you can get full sex at Park Mercedes in centro Cucuta for 5 MIL, yes 5 MIL, so I task her to show me, my god I would not stick your dick in that pussy and it was not 5 mil but rather 20 mil and not a peso less.

Yes the venies are desperate but within reason.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I don't know how you can compare Cucuta to Medellin in regards to street pricing for Vzs. I have been in El Centro every day usually twice a day for the past month and have encountered and observed the following. I have seen on three different occasions a very fat hooker on the street beside the church yelling out full service sex for 10 K. I would not get near here with a ten foot pole. Lots of sacaleros (glue sniffers) will go for just about anything because there so high they don't know which way is up. Yesterday I interviewed a cute little thing but when I got close up, the stench of the glue was to much so I bailed. Lots and lots of plain jane girls go for 20 K in El Centro. That's the price usually quoted to the locals for the plain janes with the pricing going up to 30 K for the prettier ones. Believe it or not, the Colombians are being undercut by the Vzs in Medellin as I have been told by my regulars and they are pissed off about it as it is hurting their survival. These are regulars I have known for over a year, so it's not something I heard from one individual once. So if a local can get a Colombian for 20 K, and I can get that price, why is it so hard to believe that a Vz would go for less. The Vzs are all over Medellin literally begging for money. They are up and down Calle 10 in Poblado, at Metro Stations, in front of EXITO's, and in parks with signs begging and its very sad. I'm sure there are some other vets with EL Centro experience which can confirm what I am saying.

You might be right. I've had guys stay with me but every one has been someone I already met before on the plane, friends of friends...all different ways. I mean, sharing your home isn't for everyone. But I've been told I have a very cooperative personaly. But its still good to know the guy is cool. Agreable, not into anything too crazy and we are going to get along. One friend who stayed with me a few times, he has a novia that comes every day and sometimes cooks for all of us! Awesome! I have had other amigas say they will come and cook and clean for me whenever I want. LOL I tell, them I already have a cleaning lady. And they say, but let me do it and pay me what you pay her I need the money. Lately I have been saying more and more often, "I used to go out a lot but now I have a great place, great friends and I prefer to avoid the crowds, the prices, the commotion, the stress. Its cool to go out once in a while, but most of the time I like to invite people to my house because number one, I enjoy to cook! And number 2 I just find it much more comfortable.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2312552]Just the mention of HELP in Rio and my heart starts beating faster, and my 2 visits to SP and Rio were back in 2000 yep 19 years ago. The memories will be with me till the day I am on the other side of the ground.

Must agree that if not for Poblado and Park Lleras 90% of the mongers would never come, sad but to each his own. I only go to Poblado when a friend pushes me there for a meal or have a drink.

Same with the high end men's clubs, I never go BUT last night a Colombian amigo wanted to check out Fase Dos, so paid the 10 mil and went inside for an hour with him, this was my first return in about a year or more, and guess what I counted about 100 total hombres and 85 were gringos, and the plastic chicas were, I should say are, simply gross to me and an insult to my taste, no thank you. Well good I don't have to re-visit this shit hole for another year or two. Again IMHO.

I have the same opine for Gustos and the FB chicas, no thanks, just over priced pussy, listen in, in decades past the tall man was married to a russian model so I don't need absolute beauty (perfectly symmetrical face) but rather the girl next door type which there are hordes of them here in Colombia that fit that bill perfectly.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312476]Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San José to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2312637]Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.[/QUOTE]The good old days before chicas had the option to make 100 times more online and in Lleras LOL.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2312582]I don't know how you can compare Cucuta to Medellin in regards to street pricing for Vzs. I have been in El Centro every day usually twice a day for the past month and have encountered and observed the following. I have seen on three different occasions a very fat hooker on the street beside the church yelling out full service sex for 10 K. I would not get near here with a ten foot pole. Lots of sacaleros (glue sniffers) will go for just about anything because there so high they don't know which way is up. Yesterday I interviewed a cute little thing but when I got close up, the stench of the glue was to much so I bailed. Lots and lots of plain jane girls go for 20 K in El Centro. That's the price usually quoted to the locals for the plain janes with the pricing going up to 30 K for the prettier ones. Believe it or not, the Colombians are being undercut by the Vzs in Medellin as I have been told by my regulars and they are pissed off about it as it is hurting their survival. These are regulars I have known for over a year, so it's not something I heard from one individual once. So if a local can get a Colombian for 20 K, and I can get that price, why is it so hard to believe that a Vz would go for less. The Vzs are all over Medellin literally begging for money. They are up and down Calle 10 in Poblado, at Metro Stations, in front of EXITO's, and in parks with signs begging and its very sad. I'm sure there are some other vets with EL Centro experience which can confirm what I am saying.[/QUOTE]And they work in groups. There are some very pretty ones in the parque.

Botero and if you like them dark, tall, and with braids, you can't miss this group. The more time I spent in the park and near the church, the prices got cheaper and cheaper. So yes I believe the Vz are causing a down price in Centro! I will return at the end of May, but Bogota gets most of my time next trip. I like what I saw in Santa Fe! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2312637]Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.[/QUOTE]Funny you say that. Although it was not when I first started mongering, that was many moons ago in Germany but when I first started going to central and south america, I went to San Jose first. Second trip I went to San Jose and Jaco and I was hooked. Same as you, me and my wingman spent all our time chasing and searching for Colombian girls, as they were the most GFE and best looking.

As the gulch became gringo-ized and Jaco prices went crazy, we started to look at our options. The entire monger scene there got Americanized, the transport, the tourism and the mongering all became inflated and generic. You are hard pressed to find any GFE in Jaco these days. There some jems if you work for it but for the most part, the entire scene is mechanical.

So duh, lets go to the source. Found out flights are the same or cheaper than CR. The lodging is cheaper, the transportation in country is cheaper and the mongering is 100 X better. GFE a plenty, non pros and college girls are off the chain and some of the most sexy women I have ever seen and I have traveled extensively. I find Colombian women on the whole but to be straight shooters and honest people in their hearts. There are always a bad apple but it certainly has not contaminated the bushel as far as I am concerned. Maybe I just been lucky.

I'm still a sucker for eastern European blondes but the light skinned women of Colombia give me a raging hard on.

I am going to trade up and marry one some day, I just know it.

[QUOTE=HotelAl;2312476]Thanks for the info. I live in Hoston and the flight was long (8-9 hrs) and the airfare was getting really expensive. With the closing of Help disco, it kind of made me decide to take a break from Rio. I started going to Costa Rica, it was closer (3. 5 hrs) and cheaper. I saw a lot of ladies and did have a good time, but now I am bored and might be looking at Colombia. I like Monterrey, but the airfare can get expensive (1 HR flight). Funny thing, while I was waiting for a flight from San Jose I was on a gate next to a flight going to Bogota. Wow I saw nothing but beautiful women! I will be looking at a trip to Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]Wow, I can definitely relate. Flying out of Houston to Mexico is so expensive, now. I also live here, hate the city, but love the money. I just work here, play golf, I do not go out at all in Houston anymore. I save my money go away to party and bang girls, good life. Work hard, play harder. I would also be spending more time in MTY or GDL, but I will not spend $800, (for 1 hour flight) to fly there, this is just insane. In the winter I could fly to Moscow cheaper then I could fly to Mexico or Colombia. You can still fly fairly to cheap to LA or San Diego, the, go to Tijuana.

As I mentioned I did not like Rio at all, Col. Is much better, but I can not handle how jealous the girls get, bad food, and the rain. I love Moscow, Mexico and Europe for girls, also I am not into big or fake asses, so that is another reason I am not into either Rio or Col. Not sure I would like Costa Rica, I am afraid I would run into a lot of people from Houston and honestly I try to avoid them.

Nice report, good luck.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2312721]You mean Panama City and Costa Rica where they all get trafficked to.[/QUOTE]Not what I meant at all. CR, for instance, has always been a drop in the bucket relative to Colombia. Meanwhile, Lleras/Poblado and online have grown exponentially. From what I understand, the Del Rey has fallen off. Perhaps this is partly because the girls can make more money here locally than b4 if they hit the online and Poblado mongers from places like the USA.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2312637]Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.[/QUOTE]Back in '07 I posted on this Forum for the first time with basically the same story. A fellow monger, "Lost in Paradise", posted in the Costa Rica Forum about how Great Colombia is, he was right. I've since been back to Medellin a handful of times, having the best of times, posting when I thought I had something to add. I'll be back in Nov. Or Dec.

Although I still love Medellin, I wonder where the next Medellin is. I was hoping that Cucuta was it but it just doesn't seem like it.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2312637]Funny you say that. When I first started mongering I went to Costa Rica. Jaco and San Jos to be exact. In Jaco almost all the providers were Colombianas. All hot and sexy. When I started asking what part of Colombia they were from. They all said Medellin. Mmmm. I was like let me go to the source. Later that year I took my first trip to Medellin. Back when the Casas were charging 30 k. Most of the casas had 8 - 10 stunners. Now how times have changed.[/QUOTE]Dunno what year that was, but if you allow for inflation, not much has changed.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2312791]Dunno what year that was, but if you allow for inflation, not much has changed.[/QUOTE]True that. But the quality was so much better back then. Now you go to the Centro casas you got 4-7's and with attitudes. LOL.

Fellow mongers,

I just returned from my third trip to Panama City. Part business and part mongering. I find that there is extraordinary talent in many places in the City (Habanos, Ocean Sun casino, etc). However, I'm considering a trip to either Medellin, Cali or Bogata to check out the scene. Any advice? Any preference of cities for most efficient mongering and best talent? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312931]Then you have the ones that are all surgeried up that you can tell were not planning to be anyone's nanny![/QUOTE]I've friended a lot of hookers over the years, including a valedictorian of a university, and every one had qualities that gravitated them to sex work.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2312582]I don't know how you can compare Cucuta to Medellin in regards to street pricing for Vzs. I have been in El Centro every day usually twice a day for the past month and have encountered and observed the following. I have seen on three different occasions a very fat hooker on the street beside the church yelling out full service sex for 10 K. I would not get near here with a ten foot pole. Lots of sacaleros (glue sniffers) will go for just about anything because there so high they don't know which way is up. Yesterday I interviewed a cute little thing but when I got close up, the stench of the glue was to much so I bailed. Lots and lots of plain jane girls go for 20 K in El Centro. That's the price usually quoted to the locals for the plain janes with the pricing going up to 30 K for the prettier ones. Believe it or not, the Colombians are being undercut by the Vzs in Medellin as I have been told by my regulars and they are pissed off about it as it is hurting their survival. These are regulars I have known for over a year, so it's not something I heard from one individual once. So if a local can get a Colombian for 20 K, and I can get that price, why is it so hard to believe that a Vz would go for less. The Vzs are all over Medellin literally begging for money. They are up and down Calle 10 in Poblado, at Metro Stations, in front of EXITO's, and in parks with signs begging and its very sad. I'm sure there are some other vets with EL Centro experience which can confirm what I am saying.[/QUOTE]I can't disagree with anything you said, all true.

I say this as I sit in my apartment this morning with 2 chicas in my apartment in the bedrooms that my amigo and I picked up from el centro last night, one is a venie and the other a costena, the castena chica is my girl and the venie is my buddies, we know both girls really well, all 3 of them are still asleep, we typically give about 80 to 130 mil for the night, plus we are both really cool guys and also had something to eat last night and some smokes and drinks.

Yes I do believe and know for a certainty that the venies are creating a big problem for the market, but within reason as I have yet to find a venie (Vz chica) who is fresh and cute and willing to have sex for 15 mil, this is just not out there or what I heard when I was in Cucuta a few weeks ago which is "the venies are selling sex in park mercedes for 5 mil", again not so.

All is good, life goes on.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2312953]I can't disagree with anything you said, all true.

I say this as I sit in my apartment this morning with 2 chicas in my apartment in the bedrooms that my amigo and I picked up from el centro last night, one is a venie and the other a costena, the castena chica is my girl and the venie is my buddies, we know both girls really well, all 3 of them are still asleep, we typically give about 80 to 130 mil for the night, plus we are both really cool guys and also had something to eat last night and some smokes and drinks.

Yes I do believe and know for a certainty that the venies are creating a big problem for the market, but within reason as I have yet to find a venie (Vz chica) who is fresh and cute and willing to have sex for 15 mil, this is just not out there or what I heard when I was in Cucuta a few weeks ago which is "the venies are selling sex in park mercedes for 5 mil", again not so.

All is good, life goes on.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I concur with you Tall Man, the cute Vz Chicas will not go for 15 K as they know they can get more than the plain jane Chicas on the streets. There are so many Vzs out there right now. Every day I see more and more of them in El Centro and they outnumber the Colombians in the Park opposite the Museum. They also all congregate in groups of two to six girls. So many of them, yet many very pudgy, etc. I will not approach a girl in a group as I do not want their friends to hear what's being said. I'm always on the lookout for loners in El Centro. Another thing I have noticed is that the Vz Spanish is easier to understand than the Colombian Spanish. Some of them are very well educated which can be refreshing compared to some of the Colombians.

Stay safe and fly under the radar in El Centro, a definite playground for some for us!

I agree with Tall Man here- They know and they are no saints at all. They are greedy and careless! I have met so many that I can say that 50-75% would happily take all of your money and leave you to die and being completely indifferent what happens to you! That is reality. They a choice; to work hard for little money in Medellin in a common service job earning less than a million pesos a month working +55 hs / week, or make a lot of money in dollar-economies like Panama, Aruba, St Marteen, Bahamas Islands. Etc. I was friend with a girl who was awesome and started as prepago the day she turned 18 and quickly moved to St Marteen and has been making a small fortune since, also supporting her family in Medellin. They don't care about moral, they are like us. We happily pay for sex and they happily get paid.

As a side note, many people, locals, expats, and foreigners all say that colombian spanish it the easiest to listen to, speak, and learn from. There are many europeans and gringos that come to Colombia for that reason. Yes, their motivation is to learn spanish properly. And many of them are in Medellin.

Just my 2 centavos.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2313062]Another thing I have noticed is that the Vz Spanish is easier to understand than the Colombian Spanish...[/QUOTE]I feel the opposite. Antioquian Spanish is a little bit different than the rest of Colombia with the voseo, yeismo as well as putting "pues" after practically every verb, but I believe it is agreed that the accent to be widely understood in the rest of Latin America. Medellin has a substantial industry of filming teevee commercials for the rest of latinoamerica for that reason.

I am getting deaf but, even when I could hear, I found it hard to understand Venezuelans because they shorten every word. Also, they "debuccalize" (take the sound out of the mouth and move it to the throat) consonants, e. g. , este become ehte. I've always had trouble with Spanish in Venezuela (esp Isla Margarita).

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2312979] Another thing I have noticed is that the Vz Spanish is easier to understand than the Colombian Spanish. Some of them are very well educated which can be refreshing compared to some of the Colombians.[/QUOTE]That's actually funny, Venezuelan spanish is known for being cut up and more difficult to understand.

I used to live in Caracas. Before the dick nose Chavez came to power.

I agree with you though, that lots of Venies in Colombia now are more educated than the average street Colombiana.

They may individually be easier to understand due to their education, however, Venezuelan spanish in general is harder to understand.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2312931]Then you have the ones that are all surgeried up that you can tell were not planning to be anyone's nanny![/QUOTE]One of the chicas I was talking about got her surgery early. She wanted bigger tits when her family gave her a graduation gift. I forget if it was for high school or college graduation. Her family was super pissed. That's when she found herself in Panama City with a penniless boyfriend or so the story goes.

Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?

Question: Which part of Colombia is great for mongering whilst being in close proximity to a beach?

[QUOTE=Balboa;2313105]That's actually funny, Venezuelan spanish is known for being cut up and more difficult to understand.

I used to live in Caracas. Before the dick nose Chavez came to power.

I agree with you though, that lots of Venies in Colombia now are more educated than the average street Colombiana.

They may individually be easier to understand due to their education, however, Venezuelan spanish in general is harder to understand.[/QUOTE]For me, it gets difficult when they don't pronounce the consonants. One on one its ok, but a group is impossible.

Personally don't think it is enough time. 5 hours is pushing it with the distance to / from Medellín and passing through security again.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2313127]Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2313127]Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaisaPorFavor;2313328]Personally don't think it is enough time. 5 hours is pushing it with the distance to / from Medelln and passing through security again.

.[/QUOTE]If you at Rionegra International your shit out of luck, in the wee hours of the morning maybe if your Ok with a skank in centro for a quick blow job but other than that not enough time period.

Next time plan your travel and stay at least a few days.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2313127]Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?[/QUOTE]It can take up to an hour just to make it through customs / security and another hour to drive to Medellin. It might just barely be possible to fit in a quick trip to a nightclub like Fase Dos or whatever but you'll be seriously pressed for time. You're probably better off hooking up with a Facebook girl who lives in nearby Rio Negro.

I've heard there is a brothel and / or a night club in Rio Negro, but I've never been and don't know the hours. Perhaps you can ask a cab to take you somewhere close? They've been relatively honest and trustworthy in my opinion although I wouldn't drag my bags all over.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2313127]Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rudebwoy100;2313202]Question: Which part of Colombia is great for mongering whilst being in close proximity to a beach?[/QUOTE]Depends, if your into SW's and have good Spanish speaking skills head to Santa Marta. I had a great time there and it's a beach town with great seafood.

I don't have a lot pf bags. Only a small backpack.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2313410]I've heard there is a brothel and / or a night club in Rio Negro, but I've never been and don't know the hours. Perhaps you can ask a cab to take you somewhere close? They've been relatively honest and trustworthy in my opinion although I wouldn't drag my bags all over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chicago85;2313410]I've heard there is a brothel and / or a night club in Rio Negro, but I've never been and don't know the hours. Perhaps you can ask a cab to take you somewhere close? They've been relatively honest and trustworthy in my opinion although I wouldn't drag my bags all over.[/QUOTE]I've been to one in San Antonio, near Rio Negro.

Looked like a Wild West saloon.

Bunch of drunk young colombianos, and some scattered chicas about.

Don't know the name, but I'm sure a taxi will know it.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2313062]As a side note, many people, locals, expats, and foreigners all say that colombian spanish it the easiest to listen to, speak, and learn from. There are many europeans and gringos that come to Colombia for that reason. Yes, their motivation is to learn spanish properly. And many of them are in Medellin.

Just my 2 centavos.[/QUOTE]With my very rudimentary Spanish I've always found Argentinians easiest to understand.

The middle-class and upper-class are easy to understand in Medellin. But not the Castellano / Spanish spoken by the people from the poor barrios. It's like two different languages. I had a "monitor" at La Liga de tenis at the big Stadium in Estadio, a student. I could not understand what he said, he was from Santo Domingo, a very poor barrio,(also knew for it's futuristic library, Bibiotecta Española, inaugurated by King Juan Carlos himself). After tennis-classes I went to La UPB for Spanish-classes and one day I told my teacher that I did not understand my tennis-trainer. "Nor, do I, he replied".

Many prepagos are from those poor barrios while your Paisa-friends are more likely to be from the well-off barrios like Laureles, Poblado etc.

[QUOTE=Rudebwoy100;2313202]Question: Which part of Colombia is great for mongering whilst being in close proximity to a beach?[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be more productive to first look at a map of Colombia, take note of which cities are located near a beach, then ask your questions in a forum for one of those cities?

Medellin is great for mongering, but it's a long walk to the beach.

[QUOTE=Flpdpt;2313127]Hi,

I will have a short lay over in Medellin (midnight to 5).

Any ideas / suggestions for a short mongering adventure?[/QUOTE]It's a 45 minute trip from the airport to Medellin. Add in going through customs and security and you'll probably only have an hour to spend in Medellin.

One possibility is to look up Victoria Zul on Facebook. If her car isn't in the shop, she combines escort service with airport pickup. Maybe she will be willing to pick you up and take you to a local motel.

Speed (for some). Less clarity. More slang. Some words I have picked up and used (innocently) to my ex-wife and daughter (from Bogota) have resulted in very ugly looks and a "I would never say that" reply. Same for when I have discussions with a colleague who is an educated Paisa who's father is a retired OB / GYN in MDE.

Que chimba.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2313716]The middle-class and upper-class are easy to understand in Medellin. But not the Castellano / Spanish spoken by the people from the poor barrios. It's like two different languages. I had a "monitor" at La Liga de tenis at the big Stadium in Estadio, a student. I could not understand what he said, he was from Santo Domingo, a very poor barrio,(also knew for it's futuristic library, Bibiotecta Espaola, inaugurated by King Juan Carlos himself). After tennis-classes I went to La UPB for Spanish-classes and one day I told my teacher that I did not understand my tennis-trainer. "Nor, do I, he replied".

Many prepagos are from those poor barrios while your Paisa-friends are more likely to be from the well-off barrios like Laureles, Poblado etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2313769]

One possibility is to look up Victoria Zul on Facebook. If her car isn't in the shop, she combines escort service with airport pickup. Maybe she will be willing to pick you up and take you to a local motel.[/QUOTE]LOL, that's super clever.

I messaged another potential hookup on Facebook. She seemed receptive but said I should message her "manager" on Whatsapp who had "muy buenas mujeres". I loathe involving third parties, particularly when it's so easy to communicate directly with girls on social media, but she wouldn't have it any other way. Sure enough, once I got in contact with the guy he wanted 300 to 400 mil. When I said at most I pay 200 he started to get huffy and said they must have been ugly. Who knows how many gullible gringos this guy has fleeced but I won't be one of them.

Ale Ale Perez? Guy seems to have a stable of very loyal girls. I have never bothered with him, but I have seen him when I've been out in the barrios.

[QUOTE=Talon;2313945]I messaged another potential hookup on Facebook. She seemed receptive but said I should message her "manager" on Whatsapp who had "muy buenas mujeres". I loathe involving third parties, particularly when it's so easy to communicate directly with girls on social media, but she wouldn't have it any other way. Sure enough, once I got in contact with the guy he wanted 300 to 400 mil. When I said at most I pay 200 he started to get huffy and said they must have been ugly. Who knows how many gullible gringos this guy has fleeced but I won't be one of them.[/QUOTE]

I try to avoid direct contact with pimps.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2313973]Ale Ale Perez? Guy seems to have a stable of very loyal girls. I have never bothered with him, but I have seen him when I've been out in the barrios.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Talon;2313945]I messaged another potential hookup on Facebook. She seemed receptive but said I should message her "manager" on Whatsapp who had "muy buenas mujeres". I loathe involving third parties, particularly when it's so easy to communicate directly with girls on social media, but she wouldn't have it any other way. Sure enough, once I got in contact with the guy he wanted 300 to 400 mil. When I said at most I pay 200 he started to get huffy and said they must have been ugly. Who knows how many gullible gringos this guy has fleeced but I won't be one of them.[/QUOTE]I too hate 3rd party / middlemen, a few weeks back when I was in Cucuta I saw an ad for out call to hotels, it got my interest but I knew already where this would end up, I contacted the 3rd party and he sent me literally 60 photos of "his girls" in Cucuta whom were available, the price? 325 mil for a few hours, what the hell! I got the same girl for ALL NIGHT for 125 mil.

Good call to you standing up to this BS.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2313973]Ale Ale Perez? Guy seems to have a stable of very loyal girls. I have never bothered with him, but I have seen him when I've been out in the barrios.[/QUOTE]Some guy calling himself Julian. I groaned inwardly when his profile pic popped up on Whatsapp because he looks exactly like what you think a stereotypical hustler in Colombia would look like.

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[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/si-quieres-vivir-una-experiencia-excitante-conmigo-escribeme-pronto-id-v6mg9[/URL]

She wants extranjero / gringo clients, not only because they pay more; they also have good hygiene, do not try to rob her or force her to do things (that they have not paid for).

She shows her beautiful face in her photos.

I'm still kind of new and having trouble locating the hotties on FB, will be in MDE in June and any links to these women would be appreciated, this forum is amazing!

[QUOTE=VickyRai;2234651]Had an amazing trip to Medellin. This time stayed at Provenza Lofts in Park Lleras instead of mansion. Wanted to do facebook scene. Flight was delayed by half an hour. Landed at 1230 am. My hotel pick up didn't show up. Had to take private taxi as there was no white taxi available at 1 am. Reached hotel at 2 am. Room was very nice.

Met my first girl. Jennifer came over at 230 am. She has very pretty face and most beautiful eyes you can imagine. Pure GFE experience. But she is not slim. She is actually on heavier side, but very curvaceous. I saw her on my last trip also. * so there was an connection and more over she showed up at 230 am. Nobody else would.

Day 1- had set up appointment with Nataly. She was supposed to show up at 1130 but she came at 130 pm. Whole two hours late. She is very beautiful. More beautiful than her pics, slim and amazing attitude. We had some crazy fun in zaccuzi and ordered pizza..[/QUOTE]

A few areas to be careful in.

[URL]https://colombiareports.com/go-areas-medellin/[/URL]

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2314978][URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/antioquia/medellin/si-quieres-vivir-una-experiencia-excitante-conmigo-escribeme-pronto-id-v6mg9[/URL]

She wants extranjero / gringo clients, not only because they pay more; they also have good hygiene, do not try to rob her or force her to do things (that they have not paid for).

She shows her beautiful face in her photos.[/QUOTE]Browsing [URL]Photoprepagos.com[/URL], looks to be some interesting items if you filter for girls with reviews. Any advice on this site, or are there better ones for Medellin? I'm going to cruise facebook, probably will stay away from Tinder.

I arrive tomorrow in Medellin for my summer Spanish course. There are at least 8 Spanish schools in the Medellin / Laureles area: Toucan Spanish, Immersion Spanish, EAFIT etc. EAFIT offers the full university experience with library, gym, cafeteria and parks. EAFIT also offers the opportunity to apply for a yearly student visa. Immersion offers the Colombian culture with field trips. Some are just class rooms in building with private and group classes. I've seen them as low as 8 usd an hour. Dance free has salsa classes for free with the hope that the free classes will lead to packages being sold. On average most classes are 38-40 hours a month usually for 2 hours every weekday. For a month of classes it can cost between 400-600 usd depending on your schedule.

There are yoga classes, cooking classes, dance classes available very easy. Also day trips to cities within two hours of Medellin are prevalent.

[QUOTE=MrGogo;2315218]I arrive tomorrow in Medellin for my summer Spanish course. There are at least 8 Spanish schools in the Medellin / Laureles area: Toucan Spanish, Immersion Spanish, EAFIT etc. EAFIT offers the full university experience with library, gym, cafeteria and parks. EAFIT also offers the opportunity to apply for a yearly student visa. Immersion offers the Colombian culture with field trips. Some are just class rooms in building with private and group classes. I've seen them as low as 8 usd an hour. Dance free has salsa classes for free with the hope that the free classes will lead to packages being sold. On average most classes are 38-40 hours a month usually for 2 hours every weekday. For a month of classes it can cost between 400-600 usd depending on your schedule.

There are yoga classes, cooking classes, dance classes available very easy. Also day trips to cities within two hours of Medellin are prevalent.[/QUOTE]Ahh, you missed one. Check out Blink Immersion, they offer field trips all the time and they are interesting. Class hours per week are 22, with 2 hours private tutoring. Room, lunch, breakfast, included and they have a cheap laundry nearby. Its about 250 per week and the classes are really small, meaning 4-6 students per lesson.

[QUOTE=BlueBudgie;2315153]Browsing [URL]Photoprepagos.com[/URL], looks to be some interesting items if you filter for girls with reviews. Any advice on this site, or are there better ones for Medellin? I'm going to cruise facebook, probably will stay away from Tinder.[/QUOTE]I've used photoprepagos in the past with decent results. If you find someone interesting message them on Whatsapp and ask about prices and services. CBJ is the norm and many won't do BBJ at any price so if that's important to you ask first. Most won't send additional photos so you'll just have to judge with what was in the ad. If you go to her expect to meet at a house she'll be sharing with other girls and a madam. Over the past few years prices seems to have crept steadily upwards but it's still possible to find bargains.

Personally I like FB better. Higher likelihood of meeting normal girls with boring normal jobs who are willing to hookup with a gringo a few times a month just so they can make ends meet. Those give the best GFE. And they don't usually blur their faces or have heavily retouched body shots on their personal page either.

It takes forever to get a match on Tinder and when you do they always ask for a ridiculous amount. Plus there's no way to do it in advance of your trip unless you pay for the premium version.

Hello all,

I first want to thank each and every single one of you. I have went thru hundreds of different forum pages, read so many reviews, and gained so much knowledge that I appreciate every single one of you. I feel like most of you have shed so much knowledge on me that I consider you an older brother. I will be going to Medellin for the first time after being away with work and other obligations for the last year. I've done the whole mexico scene, Costa Rica, and now I'm making my way south. Medellin is first on my stop. As much as I have read this across different forums I wish to ask people that are most up to date and have visited personally for insight. Lots of questions and I apologize if anything is repetitive.

1. Seems like uber is an OK transportation method but Taxi seems fine as well, would we agree that Taxi is a safe method out of the airport costing no more than 80 k with propina.

2. I see lots of reviews on strip clubs. Would anyone care to tell me what the best strip clubs are at the moment? I want to meet beautiful girls who are willing to please. Also safety is my concern so no shady areas.

3. Casas! Would anyone care to shed some light on me where to find the best casas? I get mixed reviews as to New Life, Energy, Loutron. Where is the best? Can girls meet outside? Where are the beauties mostly at. Again no shady areas.

4. Medellin Mansion, I'm working on visiting but since I'm not going to be a guest it needs to be sold out before I can pay a cover to visit. Any insight on this place recently?

5. Language? I speak minimal Spanish but we all use translate now. Would that be OK?

6. If anyone has any fb links to share of beautiful girls, preferably 21-28 I would appreciate it. Looking to link up with as many chics as possible before going later this month.

7. Pay in Colombian peso seems like the gig down here. Dollars are obviously a little much.

8. Club gusto? Worth it?

I will be going Wednesday to Monday so if anyone has a good breakdown of how I should spend my time that would be great. Cartagena is next after Medellin so I will be posting on that thread as well.

Anything else would be much appreciated. I know a lot of this will be relevant information available online already but after reading all those pages I feel so overwhelmed with this information I just want to have a better understanding. Thanks in advance everyone.

Hi,

A friend of mine is in Medellin at the moment who isn't internet friendly, he just turned 51.

He is looking for women around the age of 25-35 GFE in Medellin, all he is finding in below 25.

Can anybody recommend, happy to get PM with facebook contact or a number.

Thanks.

Mike.

[QUOTE=Member#2001;2315292]Ahh, you missed one. Check out Blink Immersion, they offer field trips all the time and they are interesting. Class hours per week are 22, with 2 hours private tutoring. Room, lunch, breakfast, included and they have a cheap laundry nearby. Its about 250 per week and the classes are really small, meaning 4-6 students per lesson.[/QUOTE]The advantage with EAFIT that the other schools don't offer is that they have a Bancolombia branch on campus which will allow you to open a bank account with just your Passport versus having a a Cedula. Additionally the educational structure is very structured versus Toucan. For someone wanting to properly learn the language being able to read and write Spanish it's probably the best option. For just conversational Spanish than it sounds like some of the other schools might be a better option.

Medellin is alive and well. Had a fabulous session with a Venezolana yesterday. Happy hunting.

[QUOTE=DannyBoy99;2315382]1. Seems like uber is an OK transportation method but Taxi seems fine as well, would we agree that Taxi is a safe method out of the airport costing no more than 80 k with propina. [/QUOTE]Why do you need to give the taxi driver a tip? Leave that tipping stuff in your country.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2315514]Why do you need to give the taxi driver a tip? Leave that tipping stuff in your country.[/QUOTE]Got it, will do. See already learning! Haha, thanks bud.

[QUOTE=MichaelLockhar;2315395]He is looking for women around the age of 25-35 GFE in Medellin, all he is finding in below 25.[/QUOTE]Did he take into account that half of them are lying about their age and are actually older than 25 anyway? Younger women lie and say they are older and older women lie and say they are younger. Just focus on having fun instead of minor details.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2315514]Why do you need to give the taxi driver a tip? Leave that tipping stuff in your country.[/QUOTE]Agree 100%. I don't understand the gringo mentality of wanting to tip everyone here.

[QUOTE=Talon;2315299]I've used photoprepagos in the past with decent results. If you find someone interesting message them on Whatsapp and ask about prices and services. CBJ is the norm and many won't do BBJ at any price so if that's important to you ask first. Most won't send additional photos so you'll just have to judge with what was in the ad. If you go to her expect to meet at a house she'll be sharing with other girls and a madam. Over the past few years prices seems to have crept steadily upwards but it's still possible to find bargains.

Personally I like FB better. Higher likelihood of meeting normal girls with boring normal jobs who are willing to hookup with a gringo a few times a month just so they can make ends meet. Those give the best GFE. And they don't usually blur their faces or have heavily retouched body shots on their personal page either.

It takes forever to get a match on Tinder and when you do they always ask for a ridiculous amount. Plus there's no way to do it in advance of your trip unless you pay for the premium version.[/QUOTE]What's the method you guys are using to fish on Facebook? I mean these girls aren't just putting this out there, do I just put it out there in status message or something?

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[QUOTE=DannyBoy99;2315382]Hello all,

I first want to thank each and every single one of you. I have went thru hundreds of different forum pages, read so many reviews, and gained so much knowledge that I appreciate every single one of you. I feel like most of you have shed so much knowledge on me that I consider you an older brother. I will be going to Medellin for the first time after being away with work and other obligations for the last year. I've done the whole mexico scene, Costa Rica, and now I'm making my way south. Medellin is first on my stop. As much as I have read this across different forums I wish to ask people that are most up to date and have visited personally for insight. Lots of questions and I apologize if anything is repetitive.

1. Seems like uber is an OK transportation method but Taxi seems fine as well, would we agree that Taxi is a safe method out of the airport costing no more than 80 k with propina.

REPLY: As others have said, do not tip a taxi driver in Colombia. White taxis should be about 65 mil to Poblado and 70 mil to Laureles....and 50 mil on the return to the airport. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. My driver always reminds me.

2. I see lots of reviews on strip clubs. Would anyone care to tell me what the best strip clubs are at the moment? I want to meet beautiful girls who are willing to please. Also safety is my concern so no shady areas.

REPLY: Unless you are separate to find some pussy, avoid those clubs....at least the high end ones. Waste of money, IMO.

3. Casas! Would anyone care to shed some light on me where to find the best casas? I get mixed reviews as to New Life, Energy, Loutron. Where is the best? Can girls meet outside? Where are the beauties mostly at. Again no shady areas.

REPLY: Read the board some and check our the Medellin list. Most of the normal casas are in centro. There are other good ones in other barrios, but as a newbie, I will not recommend them.

4. Medellin Mansion, I'm working on visiting but since I'm not going to be a guest it needs to be sold out before I can pay a cover to visit. Any insight on this place recently?

REPLY: Again, unless you are lazy or just can't seem to get chicas lined up, do not bother. IMO, the quality of chicas has gone down in the past few years. Exception is when they have a party and some of the good ones come out to play.

5. Language? I speak minimal Spanish but we all use translate now. Would that be OK?

REPLY: Better than nothing. But I assume you are not looking for a date with intellectual conversation. As such, just worry about fucking them. Learn basic words like chupar (suck), frotar (rub), leche (milk), boca (mouth), perro (doggie), sin condon (bareback)......

6. If anyone has any fb links to share of beautiful girls, preferably 21-28 I would appreciate it. Looking to link up with as many chics as possible before going later this month.

REPLY: Sorry. I stay away from the hardened pros these day. Prefer my, for the most part, private stock.

7. Pay in Colombian peso seems like the gig down here. Dollars are obviously a little much.

REPLY: I don't even bother bringing any dollars with me. Maybe I have $10 in my wallet. I use pesos and credit cards exclusively (not that girls accept cards!).

8. Club gusto? Worth it?

REPLY: No, unless you want to overpay for mostly average chicas. They can be had for half of that outside of Gusto's.

I will be going Wednesday to Monday so if anyone has a good breakdown of how I should spend my time that would be great. Cartagena is next after Medellin so I will be posting on that thread as well.

REPLY: Don't be afraid to his on chicas who work on the super market or at a restaurant. You never know who's looking for extra money. Just be cool about it.

Anything else would be much appreciated. I know a lot of this will be relevant information available online already but after reading all those pages I feel so overwhelmed with this information I just want to have a better understanding. Thanks in advance everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2315633]Replies embedded.[/QUOTE]The Medellin list is mostly up to date. The centro casa scene has a wide variety with most of them being walking distance from each other. Like Colombia lover said. Don't bother with the high end clubs. A lot of fake Butts and breast. Most of the service is mechanical and you won't get GFE. For me the high end of the club spectrum would be San Diego club and Luna lunera. Last time I went to Luna I think I paid 100 k or more and the provider was terrible. So don't be fooled by pretty face. San Diego club is slightly better. But really talent change often. At night I go the the centro clubs and stay in hotel Normandía because they have a balcony. Great for people watching and smoking Lala with the chica's. It's a super cheap hotel with shit Beds but I love it there because the door guys always take care of me. And you can't beat the location. Most girl are very party friendly. But watch out for the coke heads and glue sniffers en el centro. Be careful at night in el centro. I love el centro. And do all my mongering there. Only go to poblado why Laureles For a nice dinner and drinks. Both being pricier than a centro.

One of my favorite spot to go eat and drink and meet normal girl is el mercado del areío. Google it or find it on TripAdvisor.

PM me for any other questions.

Has anybody gotten monster head from Venezuelan provider? Taking a poll. I can't seem to find bomb head.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315643]The Medellin list is mostly up to date. The centro casa scene has a wide variety with most of them being walking distance from each other. Like Colombia lover said. Don't bother with the high end clubs. A lot of fake Butts and breast. Most of the service is mechanical and you won't get GFE. For me the high end of the club spectrum would be San Diego club and Luna lunera. Last time I went to Luna I think I paid 100 k or more and the provider was terrible. So don't be fooled by pretty face. San Diego club is slightly better. But really talent change often. At night I go the the centro clubs and stay in hotel Normanda because they have a balcony. Great for people watching and smoking Lala with the chica's. It's a super cheap hotel with shit Beds but I love it there because the door guys always take care of me. And you can't beat the location. Most girl are very party friendly. But watch out for the coke heads and glue sniffers en el centro. Be careful at night in el centro. I love el centro. And do all my mongering there. Only go to poblado why Laureles For a nice dinner and drinks. Both being pricier than a centro.

One of my favorite spot to go eat and drink and meet normal girl is el mercado del areo. Google it or find it on TripAdvisor.

PM me for any other questions.[/QUOTE]Dcfab and Colombialover both much thanks. I will avoid strip clubs. What Casas would you recommend looking for some good GFE and beautiful chicks. Doesn't have to be the most expensive but I do not mind spending a bit more for talent.

I can't message or else I'd ask more private questions.

With regards to sports, I am a big basketball fan. Anywhere good, both pro and non pro clubs, sports bar, anywhere I should go to entertain some good company and catch the games? It's going to be the conference finals while I'm out there.

Thanks again both of you have been great.

Also if you have a link to the casa map that would help, I just want to make sure we are both looking at the same updated one. I couldn't download a PDF file I saw on the other thread.

You are my spirit animal!

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315643]The Medellin list is mostly up to date. The centro casa scene has a wide variety with most of them being walking distance from each other. Like Colombia lover said. Don't bother with the high end clubs. A lot of fake Butts and breast. Most of the service is mechanical and you won't get GFE. For me the high end of the club spectrum would be San Diego club and Luna lunera. Last time I went to Luna I think I paid 100 k or more and the provider was terrible. So don't be fooled by pretty face. San Diego club is slightly better. But really talent change often. At night I go the the centro clubs and stay in hotel Normanda because they have a balcony. Great for people watching and smoking Lala with the chica's. It's a super cheap hotel with shit Beds but I love it there because the door guys always take care of me. And you can't beat the location. Most girl are very party friendly. But watch out for the coke heads and glue sniffers en el centro. Be careful at night in el centro. I love el centro. And do all my mongering there. Only go to poblado why Laureles For a nice dinner and drinks. Both being pricier than a centro..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315643] Like Colombia lover said. Don't bother with the high end clubs. A lot of fake Butts and breast. Most of the service is mechanical and you won't get GFE. [/QUOTE]Not that you are going to get a better experience on the low end either.

[QUOTE=DannyBoy99;2315646]Dcfab and Colombialover both much thanks. I will avoid strip clubs. What Casas would you recommend looking for some good GFE and beautiful chicks. Doesn't have to be the most expensive but I do not mind spending a bit more for talent.

I can't message or else I'd ask more private questions.

With regards to sports, I am a big basketball fan. Anywhere good, both pro and non pro clubs, sports bar, anywhere I should go to entertain some good company and catch the games? It's going to be the conference finals while I'm out there.

Thanks again both of you have been great.

Also if you have a link to the casa map that would help, I just want to make sure we are both looking at the same updated one. I couldn't download a PDF file I saw on the other thread.[/QUOTE]New life and chica punto com had the biggest line up. That I know off. But follow the list and find out for yourself. I not saying don't do strip club. I'm saying don't bother pay those high prices. Like Mr E says there are 2 types of mongers. The once that go to the high end strip clubs and dance clubs in poblado and never leave that area. Then the other that love el centro and find the bargain cuties. Plus with all the Venezuelans el Colombia. Cuties and GFE can be had at a great price.

There is a 3rd type of monger which I consider myself part of. I don't frequent the high end clubs and on occasion visit the casas by el centro. I have no interest in going to the high priced gringo massage places like Energy. What I do is stay at arbnb places and have my long lists of established girl friends come to visit or spend the night. I love the variety of girls and often take them on tour trips where we both have a very good time. That works for me

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315711]New life and chica punto com had the biggest line up. That I know off. But follow the list and find out for yourself. I not saying don't do strip club. I'm saying don't bother pay those high prices. Like Mr E says there are 2 types of mongers. The once that go to the high end strip clubs and dance clubs in poblado and never leave that area. Then the other that love el centro and find the bargain cuties. Plus with all the Venezuelans el Colombia. Cuties and GFE can be had at a great price.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2315816]There is a 3rd type of monger which I consider myself part of. What I do is stay at arbnb places and have my long lists of established girl friends come to visit or spend the night. I love the variety of girls and often take them on tour trips where we both have a very good time. That works for me

.[/QUOTE]Do what works best for you. Some guys are on a race to the bottom to find the cheapest crack head and sleep in a roach motel. Others are less concerned with that and would rather do cool things like have weekend parties at fincas. There is something for everyone. Some people encourage everyone to go to the same spot and then complain later on when prices and attitudes change at that spot. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2315684]Not that you are going to get a better experience on the low end either.[/QUOTE]Yeah but at least you didn't pay that much to find out. I really hate paying top $$ for bad service.

I identify with this category as well. It took some time to develop my "go to list" but now it works well for me. Just have to balance between regulars and the desire to try something new every time.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2315816]There is a 3rd type of monger which I consider myself part of. I don't frequent the high end clubs and on occasion visit the casas by el centro. I have no interest in going to the high priced gringo massage places like Energy. What I do is stay at arbnb places and have my long lists of established girl friends come to visit or spend the night. I love the variety of girls and often take them on tour trips where we both have a very good time. That works for me

.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315711]New life and chica punto com had the biggest line up. That I know off. But follow the list and find out for yourself. I not saying don't do strip club. I'm saying don't bother pay those high prices. Like Mr E says there are 2 types of mongers. The once that go to the high end strip clubs and dance clubs in poblado and never leave that area. Then the other that love el centro and find the bargain cuties. Plus with all the Venezuelans el Colombia. Cuties and GFE can be had at a great price.[/QUOTE]This influx of Venezuelan girls stop the sex-inflation that the new have created during the last decade or so.

How much is a great price in El Centro today? Any examples, estimations?

Have prices in the rich areas as Poblado and Laureles also gone down?

What is actually a fair Toda la nocha rate for you guys, I mean when you don't know the chick? I'd the imagine 200 - 250 TLN would be fair considering we are in Colombia but is seems to be a thing of the past if you have taste for high quality looks. Hell, even 400 k TLN is tricky if don't know the city and only go to high end clubs. And lets be honest you rarely see any 8's or 9's at those cheap places.

Where and what is a veteran in MDE doing to get those 9's?

Fun fact: The other day this WhatsApp chick La Vane tried to play my friend asking 600 k for TLN. But there must be somewhere some gringo paying that shite otherwise she wouldn't dare to ask.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315711]New life and chica punto com had the biggest line up. That I know off. But follow the list and find out for yourself. I not saying don't do strip club. I'm saying don't bother pay those high prices. Like Mr E says there are 2 types of mongers. The once that go to the high end strip clubs and dance clubs in poblado and never leave that area. Then the other that love el centro and find the bargain cuties. Plus with all the Venezuelans el Colombia. Cuties and GFE can be had at a great price.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2315816]There is a 3rd type of monger which I consider myself part of. I don't frequent the high end clubs and on occasion visit the casas by el centro. I have no interest in going to the high priced gringo massage places like Energy. What I do is stay at arbnb places and have my long lists of established girl friends come to visit or spend the night. I love the variety of girls and often take them on tour trips where we both have a very good time. That works for me

.[/QUOTE]Damage for regulars?

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2316028]What is actually a fair Toda la nocha rate for you guys, I mean when you don't know the chick? [/QUOTE]100K. Taste and looks don't have shit to do with it. The economy of Colombia is what has something to do with it. (Hell, if they looked that good then they would be models and movie stars instead of hookers.) Unfortunately most foreigners refuse to understand this and will pay 250K and 400K and etc. because the looks and the price is better than home.

Remember Colombians would not be caught dead paying those gringo prices. They look at those chicks the same as you look at your chicks back home. There is nothing exotic and glamorous about them to the local guys. They are just regular everyday chicks.

Go to the cheap club and grab you a chick and take her down to the mall for a 100K makeover. You will have your 8 or 9. I prefer chicks without makeup because I like natural beauty, not glitz.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316030]100K. Taste and looks don't have shit to do with it. The economy of Colombia is what has something to do with it. (Hell, if they looked that good then they would be models and movie stars instead of hookers.) Unfortunately most foreigners refuse to understand this and will pay 250K and 400K and etc. because the looks and the price is better than home.....[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right bro. Its important to put things into perspective and not help dumb inflation in a poor country. 100 K in Colombia or even 200 k (very generous) would be like making 300 dollar a day in western countries which is more than regular paid job. So there is no way these chicks are worth more than that.

Parque lleras and all those clubs got to of get of the list. I am thinking non-pros is where it is really at for bang for your buck (pun).

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2316038]You are absolutely right bro. Its important to put things into perspective and not help dumb inflation in a poor country. 100 K in Colombia or even 200 k (very generous) would be like making 300 dollar a day in western countries which is more than regular paid job. So there is no way these chicks are worth more than that.

Parque lleras and all those clubs got to of get of the list. I am thinking non-pros is where it is really at for bang for your buck (pun).[/QUOTE]The lowest I paid for TLN is 80 k. And the funny thing about was she was scared to ask that. That was her offer. She was like is that too much? I was like" yeah that's to much. But since I like you I'll pay 80 k. ". We left the club at closing. Banged out 2 before sleeping then banged when we woke up at 8 am. She left happy. Also never ever pay up front. You can show her the money but never pay up front. All this was in cucuta. In Medellin I'the say 100 k -150 k. With a freelancer in el centro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316030]100K. Taste and looks don't have shit to do with it. The economy of Colombia is what has something to do with it. (Hell, if they looked that good then they would be models and movie stars instead of hookers.) Unfortunately most foreigners refuse to understand this and will pay 250K and 400K and etc. because the looks and the price is better than home.

Remember Colombians would not be caught dead paying those gringo prices. They look at those chicks the same as you look at your chicks back home. There is nothing exotic and glamorous about them to the local guys. They are just regular everyday chicks.

Go to the cheap club and grab you a chick and take her down to the mall for a 100K makeover. You will have your 8 or 9. I prefer chicks without makeup because I like natural beauty, not glitz.[/QUOTE]MR TACAÑO strikes again!

[QUOTE=Jayson01;2316028]What is actually a fair Toda la nocha rate for you guys, I mean when you don't know the chick? I'd the imagine 200 - 250 TLN would be fair considering we are in Colombia but is seems to be a thing of the past if you have taste for high quality looks. Hell, even 400 k TLN is tricky if don't know the city and only go to high end clubs. And lets be honest you rarely see any 8's or 9's at those cheap places.

Where and what is a veteran in MDE doing to get those 9's?

Fun fact: The other day this WhatsApp chick La Vane tried to play my friend asking 600 k for TLN. But there must be somewhere some gringo paying that shite otherwise she wouldn't dare to ask.



Damage for regulars?[/QUOTE]THERE IS SUCH A THING AS GRINGO PRICES. SUCKS TO BE A PINK TOE. LOL. But if you speak Spanish anything is possible.

Come on guys! Stop selling dreams.

I've spent 80 days in Colombia last year and I've seen Poblado chicas Centro chicas and FB chicas. Done the casas MPs strip clubs etc. While I spent more on my first couple trips and trimmed down as I got more experienced, if you're a casual traveler looking to make the most of your short weekend trip all I can tell you is 100 mil for a TLN you're getting a cracked out disease infested girl lmao.

Take into consideration some guys don't speak any Spanish and don't look anywhere close to being a Latin person. So unless the hooker is so attracted to you that she would fuck you for free 100 k pesos ain't getting you far.

But there is just way too much BS on this board. Give credible info and stop making Colombia sound like such a poor country where these gorgeous women fuck for pennies.

This is not DR.

Yes the women are gorgeous but they are not dumb. You'll get good deals but the truly hot girls who are in high demand know their worth. You'll still get a good deal. It's all about what is most important. If it's strictly service and you're willing to sacrifice in the looks department to get more of an open menu you'll find better deals.

But if you want a girl whose universally considered very attractive 8-9-10 and you want her to do all those crazy things like BBBJ Greek facials video etc etc 100 k aint getting it done. Be real!!

Do you know how much the narco traffickers or local gangsters pay for girls?? And these are local Colombians throwing 100 usd bills at them.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316047]Come on guys! Stop selling dreams.

I've spent 80 days in Colombia last year and I've seen Poblado chicas Centro chicas and FB chicas. Done the casas MPs strip clubs etc. While I spent more on my first couple trips and trimmed down as I got more experienced, if you're a casual traveler looking to make the most of your short weekend trip all I can tell you is 100 mil for a TLN you're getting a cracked out disease infested girl lmao.

Take into consideration some guys don't speak any Spanish and don't look anywhere close to being a Latin person. So unless the hooker is so attracted to you that she would fuck you for free 100 k pesos ain't getting you far.

But there is just way too much BS on this board. Give credible info and stop making Colombia sound like such a poor country where these gorgeous women fuck for pennies.

This is not DR.

Yes the women are gorgeous but they are not dumb. You'll get good deals but the truly hot girls who are in high demand know their worth. You'll still get a good deal. It's all about what is most important. If it's strictly service and you're willing to sacrifice in the looks department to get more of an open menu you'll find better deals.

But if you want a girl whose universally considered very attractive 8-9-10 and you want her to do all those crazy things like BBBJ Greek facials video etc etc 100 k aint getting it done. Be real!!

Do you know how much the narco traffickers or local gangsters pay for girls?? And these are local Colombians throwing 100 usd bills at them.[/QUOTE]You must be butt ugly. LOL. Do you man. Pay what you pay.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316047]This is not DR.[/QUOTE]Of course it is not DR. Chicks in DR are now asking $150. You fuckers have already ruined that. I was giving chicks in Sosua $30 for all night before. But as we can see mfs with your same attitude have put that to an end.

Now you guys are on the way to doing Medellin the same way. The chicks are not stupid, but they are taking most foreign mongers for being stupid. Where is this place that we can go see locals throwing $100 bills at chicks?

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2311195]It's relaxing in the Sue; I am in the bar downstairs from Classico and I was just quoted $150 for all night. I swear since some fool broughtthose strippers here prices haven't been quoted the same.[/QUOTE]

I think we can all agree that best looking chicks are mostly at high prices places. But that don't mean you are getting the best service or that diamonds in the rough don't exist. Unfortunately with recent influx of stupid Medellin videos on youtube and now even Madonna song about Medellin more dumb Gringos with loose pockets are on the way.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2316049]You must be butt ugly. LOL. Do you man. Pay what you pay.[/QUOTE]LMAO. The fact that you would want to judge another guy on this board says it all.

But I'd bet 100 k usd to your 10k pesos that I get more free ass than you from hotter girls.

Regardless if I'm ugly or look like brad Pitt dude you're a fuckin man!!

If you're looking to bargain basement with girls you must be broke.

I'd rather be ugly than broke pinching pennies any day.

I've fucked an nfl cheerleader, maxim model, (for free) and thrown 50 k birthday parties with Corona beer models in Vegas.

So I'll take your version of ugly all day lmao. But what I do know is this. You're pinching pennies on girls where an extra 10 bucks could mean a lot to them and obviously that 10 $ means a lot to you.

But hey you do you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316052]Of course it is not DR. Chicks in DR are now asking $150. You fuckers have already ruined that. I was giving chicks in Sosua $30 for all night before. But as we can see mfs with your same attitude have put that to an end.

Now you guys are on the way to doing Medellin the same way. The chicks are not stupid, but they are taking most foreign mongers for being stupid. Where is this place that we can go see locals throwing $100 bills at chicks?[/QUOTE]There's no girl worth 150 pesos yet alone usd in DR worth fucking. I went to Sosua once and didn't pull one girl so whoever is paying those girls those prices is just stupidity.

You have to understand where there are hot girls there are guys with $$ are going to come along and overpay to get what they want.

As far as where the locals with $$. Do the math. 90% of the entire worlds cocaine comes from this country.

The local gangs in mde and other major cities like Cali and Bog make big $$ on drugs, extortion of cam girls, etc etc.

Won't go into too much detail cause this is not a forum for that.

But the whole point is 100 mil for a TLN with a hot girl is not a reasonable expectation. Don't blame guys like me cause I've only been traveling a little over a year and the prices were just as high on my first trip.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316078]As far as where the locals with $$. Do the math. 90% of the entire worlds cocaine comes from this country.[/QUOTE]I am not trying to do any math. You said there are locals throwing $100 bills at chicks as if you have seen this. I was just asking where so I could go see it too. Because in 14 years and 11 cities in Colombia I have never seen such.

There are millions of chicks in Colombia. There is no need to compete with a handful of drug lords. The local guys that I see in mongering venues do not seem to be in any competition to outspend anyone. Hell, they hardly even give them a 2000 peso tip when they come off the stage from dancing. Only foreigners are putting those hoes on pedastals!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316084]I am not trying to do any math. You said there are locals throwing $100 bills at chicks as if you have seen this. I was just asking where so I could go see it to. Because in 14 years and 11 cities in Colombia I have never seen such.[/QUOTE]Ok obviously I meant that there are locals who are Colombians who spend a lot of $$ on prepagos.

I won't go into further details but what I will say is this. I know Colombians who spend TONS of $$ on working girls. Even now after the whole cartel era.

Celebrities on TV are being paid 10-20 k usd per month to be a sugar baby to these guys. I know this for a fact.

If you're looking for girls at affordable rates then the chances of running into these guys are slim for you as well.

Anytime you combine money for sex with attractive women there's always going to be someone whether it's gringos or locals that come in and sponsor them and when the girls spread the word they'll all think they are worth more and want more.

This is simply what happens to popular mongering destinations.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316086]Celebrities on TV are being paid 10-20 k usd per month to be a sugar baby to these guys. I know this for a fact.[/QUOTE]That comes under the title of a fool and his money. I meet celebrities everydayand have even dated a couple. They are just regular ass people. Nothing special about them.

Like I was telling dude before, if you want an 8, 9, or 10, then go find a normal ass chick and take her to the mall for a makeover. Most of that shit is not natural, it is a creation. So if anyone wants to go spend 500k pesos on some chick because of her makeup and surgery then more power to them.

I look for the girl next door type, not plastics. It can be scary when the war paint comes off. I have a good friend (I won't mention her name, because she is a friend). She looks great with make-up. But I have seen her with no make-up. Or after a long night of drinking. Not a pretty site. And she's still in her early 20's. And that's not the mention the work she's had on her face. Front teeth. Infections. "semi-permanent" eyebrows, etc. At least she hasn't gotten implants, but probably only because she can't afford it. I love her as a friend. But if I had paid to have a TLN with her and saw her au natural in the morning, I would be pissed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316094]That comes under the title of a fool and his money. I meet celebrities everyday, and they are just regular ass people. Nothing special about them.

Like I was telling dude before, if you want an 8, 9, or 10, then go find a normal ass chick and take her to the mall for a makeover. Most of that shit is not natural, it is a creation. So if anyone wants to go spend 500k pesos on some chick because of her makeup and surgery then more power to them.[/QUOTE]

The whole point I was trying to make was 100 k pesos for a TLN is not a reasonable expectation right now in MDE.

JLO and Rihanna are ugly. Even with make up they are a 7 at best. JLO when she was in her 20's was a 9. LOL.

Here is my concern with girls who are too cheap.
For example in the States you can find $30 hookers who will bbbjcim bbfs and anything you can imagine for 30-50$$. Obviously they are drugged up or don’t have much respect for their bodies or both.
Maybe she has a disease and don’t give a fuck about life anymore and is willing to do whatever for any amount.
Same concept in Colombia. Most girls charge more than 100k pesos for a TLN. So the ones that are willing to accept that along with providing certain risky services would just bring a red flag to me.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2315877]Yeah but at least you didn't pay that much to find out. I really hate paying top $$ for bad service.[/QUOTE]True. And I don't gravitate towards the more expensive end of the scale. In fact, some of the better experiences I've had in various locations (Thailand, DR, Bali) have been on the lower end. However, it hurts me to say this but after two trips to Colombia I've concluded that service in Colombia is consistently mediocre. I went to Brazil last month, and it was a experience that pushed my standards up a few notches. Cheap hookers in Santa Fe or Casas in Medellin won't work for me, anymore. In fact, the only instance of poor service I encountered in Brazil was at a massage parlor in Cocacabana, where the masseur went through a hurried routine and gave a covered blow job that causes me to describe it as "Colombian level of service". To be fair, the excellent sessions I enjoyed were with Garotas de Programa. I'll need to go the prepago route next time, and make a proper Apples to Apples comparison.

And despite my disappointment with Colombia in the past, I am plotting to return soon, and take some Spanish classes. To really get around Latin America, I need to be proficient in Spanish to discover the places that are not discussed here in any detail. Colombians speak a clear, quality dialect of Spanish and there are dozens of Spanish language schools around the country that are quite cheap and easy to access, compared with other locations in Latin America. I think that will unlock a lot of opportunities, right there.

Also, Colombia appears to be a better place for dating as a foreigner from an internet perspective. I've tried all the various "Cupid" dating sites just as an experiment. Last Sunday night, I created a profile on Brazil Cupid and Colombia Cupid. While the profiles and photos of my self were identical on both profiles, I have received only minor interest from the Brazil site and dozens of hits from girls on the Colombian site. Also the girls on the Colombian site tend to be better looking, though that is not a reflection of the general population of either nation. But, I will look into having a real date with a Colombiana the next time I visit. Maybe there is a different level of Colombian service to be had.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2316096]I love her as a friend. But if I had paid to have a TLN with her and saw her au natural in the morning, I would be pissed.[/QUOTE]But you would be a lot less ticked had you bargained with her for 100K or 150K versus jumping at the 400K and up that people are saying you need to pay in an economically challenged country. When you say aloud that you need to pay a chick for one night half of what most people make all month, it sounds ridiculous. Just give her 12 days pay and she will stay with you overnight.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316052]Chicks in DR are now asking $150. You fuckers have already ruined that. Now you guys are on the way to doing Medellin the same way. [/QUOTE]Yep, that's why I always say enjoy this why it lasts. Sosua was a great place back in the day (especially before Help in Rio closed and also before the Youtube bloggers arrived on the scene). Now I cringe at the thought of going there because of the mongers there as much as the fall off in talent.

When I see guys on here asking for references and information about specific chicas, it reminds me of the Sosua type mongers. The Sheep want to do the same exact things and move in the same exact spaces.

Props to the Trail Blazers that are sitting on the treasures and enjoying them without the need for wholesale validation from others.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316101]The whole point I was trying to make was 100 k pesos for a TLN is not a reasonable expectation right now in MDE.

JLO and Rihanna are ugly. Even with make up they are a 7 at best. JLO when she was in her 20's was a 9. LOL.

Here is my concern with girls who are too cheap.
For example in the States you can find $30 hookers who will bbbjcim bbfs and anything you can imagine for 30-50$$. Obviously they are drugged up or dont have much respect for their bodies or both.
Maybe she has a disease and dont give a fuck about life anymore and is willing to do whatever for any amount.
Same concept in Colombia. Most girls charge more than 100k pesos for a TLN. So the ones that are willing to accept that along with providing certain risky services would just bring a red flag to me.[/QUOTE]I took the mother / daughter combo to a clinic to have a health check, neither had any diseases and were both HIV negative, both are nice looking chics, really nice looking chics to be around Centro and Vera Cruz and I could bang them both for $60 mil pesos for an hour or two every day. One thing for sure about the thread, it is clear who makes outrageous claims and who tries to justify what the spend as a rationale to self compensate that the amount was justified. 1 you either speak very limited spanish and have to date who will come to you. 2. You know where Casas are and you visit frequently until you find a casa girl you like, or 3. You are plain out afraid of walking around Centro and hand picking you a girl, but paying $250-$350 mil per date is pure foolishness in medellin, but to each their own, carry on, pollo negro is out!

I mentioned this in my review. There are locals spending a lot of money in the club.

I met two local men at La Isla. They had several millions deposit at the club, and spent freely. They had a large stack on 2000 bills on the table for tips to dancers and told me I could use it to tip girls too. They also offered to pay for everything including girls. They had a driver or guard follow me everywhere and offered me drug in the bathroom. I was thinking I might be kidnapped.

When I was about to walk thru the door after the club closed. I was pulled aside by my new friend to yield to a group of gangster looking men dresses in suit with head bandana. They turned around to exchanges some words with my friend in Spanish that I don't understand. I believe my friend was apologizing and gangster looking men had no smile and looked very serious. I wondered what would happen if my friend did not pull me back.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316078]There's no girl worth 150 pesos yet alone usd in DR worth fucking. I went to Sosua once and didn't pull one girl so whoever is paying those girls those prices is just stupidity.

You have to understand where there are hot girls there are guys with $$ are going to come along and overpay to get what they want.

As far as where the locals with $$. Do the math. 90% of the entire worlds cocaine comes from this country.

The local gangs in mde and other major cities like Cali and Bog make big $$ on drugs, extortion of cam girls, etc etc.

Won't go into too much detail cause this is not a forum for that..[/QUOTE]Wait a damn minute LOL you went to the su once. And didn't pull anything. And you that's the only place in the DR you went? You didn't venture out at all from that small place. Sosua doesn't represent the whole DR there are definitely some chicas worth the bread in the DR and this is coming from a guy that loves Colombia women love them! That's a crazy statement sir. Crazy.

She's a friend, so I don't pay her like a WG. And to be clear, I agree that some people are way over-paying for TLN. And just a regular cita. It not only sounds ridiculous, it is ridiculous. And when they get it, these girls start to believe they are worth that much. My post really had more to do with use of surgery and other enhancements.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2316120]But you would be a lot less ticked had you bargained with her for 100K or 150K versus jumping at the 400K and up that people are saying you need to pay in an economically challenged country. When you say aloud that you need to pay a chick for one night half of what most people make all month, it sounds ridiculous. Just give her 12 days pay and she will stay with you overnight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2316289]Wait a damn minute LOL you went to the su once. And didn't pull anything. And you that's the only place in the DR you went? You didn't venture out at all from that small place. Sosua doesn't represent the whole DR there are definitely some chicas worth the bread in the DR and this is coming from a guy that loves Colombia women love them! That's a crazy statement sir. Crazy.[/QUOTE]I guess when I went the gringos already ruined it. Passions was already closed down by then and really had no desire to go back after seeing the talent at Classicos and the bar downstairs from there. Also went to Pico Flor and nothing.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2316198]I took the mother / daughter combo to a clinic to have a health check, neither had any diseases and were both HIV negative, both are nice looking chics, really nice looking chics to be around Centro and Vera Cruz and I could bang them both for $60 mil pesos for an hour or two every day. One thing for sure about the thread, it is clear who makes outrageous claims and who tries to justify what the spend as a rationale to self compensate that the amount was justified. 1 you either speak very limited spanish and have to date who will come to you. 2. You know where Casas are and you visit frequently until you find a casa girl you like, or 3. You are plain out afraid of walking around Centro and hand picking you a girl, but paying $250-$350 mil per date is pure foolishness in medellin, but to each their own, carry on, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]Hey I'm glad your being health conscious and being smart about it but I monger for sport fucking. If it comes down to having to be seen in public with hookers or taking them to the doctor I prefer to go back to regular dating. LOL.

The whole point of paying is to make my life easier.

The last two pages of this thread have a total mind fuck. Some people are just flat out retarded. I suspect a lot of blow hardary going on but the amusement level is at a peak.

My unsolicited two cents.

Some guys will fuck a casa skank for 30 K and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys will fuck a top notch pro for 300 K or 400 K and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys will seek to save a dime and come away feeling like they conquered the country and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys have limited time and limited skills and will over pay to bang a girl they feel is above their pay grade and class and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys enjoy the hunt, finding the diamond in the rough, seeking the treasure with the least amount of finger prints on it and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys want to wife up and be in love for a week and be happy. More power to you.

It is this variety of different style mongers that keep the game alive. Imagine how stale and mechanical the entire scene would be if everyone was seeking the same thing and paying the same price. We have an example of that, it's called a brothel and we can see how it has destroyed the game itself. We need the variety to keep the game alive and well, encourage it, don't discourage it. It's like my Dad says when I get frustrated with stupid people, son, if everyone was as smart as you, you would have no value.

As far as what people pay, there are so many factors that it would take a scientific calculator to equate. How does the girl feel about you? What do you look like, how do you dress, how do you smell, do you have game, how do you treat people, what do you want and how do you want it, just to name a few of the 100's if not 1,000's of factors. Some can get the same girl and the same service for 100 K that someone else might have to pay 400 K. Some of us even earn some free game from the same chica.

For anyone to argue that some whale splashing some extra money around will destroy or change the market is a fallacy. It is trends that change markets, not one off's. An isolated event will not cause a tsunami. Things get ruined over time, as things develop and as people and the culture change as a whole. DR and Costa Rica are great examples. It was not a few guys flashing a few hundreds that changed those games, it was the volume of mongers that descended on these places walking in each others footsteps that changed it over time. Any of us mongers in our 50's that have been doing this for 30+ years know what I mean. We have lived the changes and have changed in our habits to adjust and keep pace. At least the happy ones have, the rest just grouse and complain on threads and message boards about the good ole days instead of adapting and forging their own path in uncharted waters.

You do you and fuck the rest.

[QUOTE=Starlord1;2316289]Wait a damn minute LOL you went to the su once. And didn't pull anything. And you that's the only place in the DR you went? You didn't venture out at all from that small place. Sosua doesn't represent the whole DR there are definitely some chicas worth the bread in the DR and this is coming from a guy that loves Colombia women love them! That's a crazy statement sir. Crazy.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents on my visit to the DR, it's a black mans paradise, I don't mean this disrespectfully as they welcomed me, this tall blond gringo, and were quick to give me pointers, really a bunch of cool guys. I admired how well they got along together and partied together.

Now lets get back to Colombia.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2316198]I took the mother / daughter combo to a clinic to have a health check, neither had any diseases and were both HIV negative, both are nice looking chics, really nice looking chics to be around Centro and Vera Cruz and I could bang them both for $60 mil pesos for an hour or two every day. One thing for sure about the thread, it is clear who makes outrageous claims and who tries to justify what the spend as a rationale to self compensate that the amount was justified. 1 you either speak very limited spanish and have to date who will come to you. 2. You know where Casas are and you visit frequently until you find a casa girl you like, or 3. You are plain out afraid of walking around Centro and hand picking you a girl, but paying $250-$350 mil per date is pure foolishness in medellin, but to each their own, carry on, pollo negro is out![/QUOTE]No offense but I am not overly impressed by the pros in the pics that you have posted on here earlier. Personally I would rather pay more to fuck pros that I find more attractive.

What is some good advice about being safe and preventing being drugged by your date? I'm seeing a lot of people talk about this and want to take all precautions.

Well put my friend. When I first started going to MDE the casa scene was all beautiful Colombianas 7-10 IMO. Now all those girl wised up and moved up the hoe ladder. Either working in higher class establishments or aboard. Now the few Colombianas that work in casas are 7's at best. Price has increased a little bit but I chalk it up to inflation. I've said a while back MDE is lost. It's harder and harder to find the deals and diamonds in the rough. But all good that's we got to thank Pres Maduro for all the influx of Venezuelans cuties. They have dropped the price and increased the quality. Still love MDE and I know of other places in Colombia to get the deals.

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2316457]The last two pages of this thread have a total mind fuck. Some people are just flat out retarded. I suspect a lot of blow hardary going on but the amusement level is at a peak.

My unsolicited two cents.

Some guys will fuck a casa skank for 30 K and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys will fuck a top notch pro for 300 K or 400 K and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys will seek to save a dime and come away feeling like they conquered the country and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys have limited time and limited skills and will over pay to bang a girl they feel is above their pay grade and class and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys enjoy the hunt, finding the diamond in the rough, seeking the treasure with the least amount of finger prints on it and be happy. More power to you.

Some guys want to wife up and be in love for a week and be happy. More power to you.

It is this variety of different style mongers that keep the game alive. Imagine how stale and mechanical the entire scene would be if everyone was seeking the same thing and paying the same price. We have an example of that, it's called a brothel and we can see how it has destroyed the game itself. We need the variety to keep the game alive and well, encourage it, don't discourage it. It's like my Dad says when I get frustrated with stupid people, son, if everyone was as smart as you, you would have no value.

As far as what people pay, there are so many factors that it would take a scientific calculator to equate. How does the girl feel about you? What do you look like, how do you dress, how do you smell, do you have game, how do you treat people, what do you want and how do you want it, just to name a few of the 100's if not 1,000's of factors. Some can get the same girl and the same service for 100 K that someone else might have to pay 400 K. Some of us even earn some free game from the same chica.

For anyone to argue that some whale splashing some extra money around will destroy or change the market is a fallacy. It is trends that change markets, not one off's. An isolated event will not cause a tsunami. Things get ruined over time, as things develop and as people and the culture change as a whole. DR and Costa Rica are great examples. It was not a few guys flashing a few hundreds that changed those games, it was the volume of mongers that descended on these places walking in each others footsteps that changed it over time. Any of us mongers in our 50's that have been doing this for 30+ years know what I mean. We have lived the changes and have changed in our habits to adjust and keep pace. At least the happy ones have, the rest just grouse and complain on threads and message boards about the good ole days instead of adapting and forging their own path in uncharted waters.

You do you and fuck the rest.[/QUOTE]

Definitely is harder to find them at casas and strip clubs. But they are still there. I find them on facebook. The first clue is that they are not friends with a bunch of gringos or a bunch of putas. I am have also found them in the barrios less traveled. But it takes a certain kind of guy with a certain type of interest and experience to pursue that. Not for the newbie. The real old guy. Or the guy who gravitates toward the Mansion of Gustos. I like the adventure.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2316491]It's harder and harder to find the deals and diamonds in the rough. But all good that's we got to thank Pres Maduro for all the influx of Venezuelans cuties. They have dropped the price and increased the quality. Still love MDE and I know of other places in Colombia to get the deals.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2316445]Hey I'm glad your being health conscious and being smart about it but I monger for sport fucking. If it comes down to having to be seen in public with hookers or taking them to the doctor I prefer to go back to regular dating. LOL.

The whole point of paying is to make my life easier.[/QUOTE]That's the most honest statement I've seen posted on this thread this week, "The point of paying is to make my life easier! " lets not mislead the masses that the cheaper girls are skanks and stupid and the high price girls are fairies and princesses. I had them checked out per request, I was in Medellin for 21 days and why not, not because I thought I wanted to impregnate both the mother and daughter, I just vibed well with both of them and a clean bill of health only adds to the fact that these women get themselves regularly checked and are health conscious. I have friends who spend big bucks all day in Poblado to only tell me that after paying $500 mil for a 2 hour session after the first orgasm the girl stayed on her phone booking other clients the entire time she wasn't sexually active, but hey maybe the fake tits and silicone asset really makes a monger want to spend an extra $300 mil to feel like it was easy and worth it. You'll always find me in centro near parque Botero! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=Linyjo;2316457]Some guys will fuck a casa skank for 30 K and be happy. More power to you.
[/QUOTE]Those are the luckiest guys, because their happiness comes the easiest and cheapest.

Getting back in the game after a couple years away. I keep texting these girls on photoprepagos and all them are quoting a crazy amount for services. What would you guys ay is the pricing in Colombia? Hours or overnight.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2316506]Definitely is harder to find them at casas and strip clubs. But they are still there. I find them on facebook. The first clue is that they are not friends with a bunch of gringos or a bunch of putas. I am have also found them in the barrios less traveled. But it takes a certain kind of guy with a certain type of interest and experience to pursue that. Not for the newbie. The real old guy. Or the guy who gravitates toward the Mansion of Gustos. I like the adventure.[/QUOTE]Yeah man me and you are that type of guy. So many Barrios! I had a cutie 18 year old from Popular 1. OMG the freshest tasting p you s s why I ever had. So much to explore in the hills.

Anybody got driver Vic's number?

Hi guys, I am making my virgin trip to MDE in a few months. Have successfully used Dominican Cupid to land scores of beautiful busties, many P4P or part-time P4P, in my dozen or so visits there. Question for those who can compare: does Colombia Cupid also have easily obtainable, busty, cute chicas for P4P or part-time P4P? Man, with DC its like shooting fish in a barrel. Point, click, ask for whatssapp and ba bam you have a date willing to meet and fuck for very little money.

The past few pages are filled with a lot of people trying to explain why their way is the right way to monger. There isn't any one way that's right for everyone. Linyjo has the right idea. The whole idea is to enjoy yourself. Whether that means low end strip clubs or high end escorts, it doesn't matter. We don't all fit into the same mold. Neither do the girls.

Find what works for you and make the best of it.

I'm planning on coming down to Medellin in mid June. Was in Bogota, Santa Marta and Cartagena in Feb. and March. Anyway, a couple of questions for which I guess I will get slaughtered!

How's the weather in June/July. I was in Bogota which is notoriously rainy, however I found it to be more showers that pass, then you get some sun too. I wasn't caught in the rain once in 12 days. Is it similar in Medellin (but just warmer) or can it be grey and rainy all day? Because that's what you would think just looking online.

How busy is it there from mid June to late July ? I know it's not high season for the latin American tourists, but maybe there is a big influx of those from the northern hemisphere then, as it's our peak vacation time. But maybe most don't stray as far as Colombia? Never been there then, so wouldn't know. And if it's busier, I guess accomodation prices go up then too?

I'm reading a lot here about the prices having gone through the roof in Medellin for chicas, however online on sites like mileroticos I've seen quite a few chicas I like the look of offering an hour for anything between say 60 k and 120 k an hour, plus maybe 20 k per extra.

So have I just got lowbrow taste in chicas, or are these chicas likely to upsell a lot once you're with them in person? Just asking because I'm planning on coming soon, and as I see things online, prices seem pretty reasonable to me!

Too much talk about what everyone is paying and not enough reports.

This was about a few months ago.

Went to Tantra massage, great experience. The guy working was very nice, offered water when I came in. Told me to go sit upstairs and the girls came one by one. Seems like they introduce themselves and leave too fast for me to assess them. Total of 6-7, choose a big booty all natural chick. Hour glass figure, didn't look stupid thick with her yoga clothes on but when she took it off, GD what a body. Paid 130 k for the hour with polvos and extra 50 k for BBJ. Probably the best body in Medellin, forget her name though. She wanted to give me a massage first, I was like nah let me get head some first then a few different positions. Busted a nut then she gave me a massage. Junior was ready after the massage, not really massage but whatever. I facef*cked her for a good minute but she kept stopping in the middle. Couldn't get the 2nd nut so we showered together.

Visited couple of casas near la 70, walking distance. This is the ad for it:[URL]https://prepagos69.com/prepagos/medellin/3107285345-descomplicada-carino-soy-una-hermosa-prepago-ardiente[/URL].

Went there many times during my stay due to being so close, they have rotation of 6-8 girls. The girl I saw is the same in the picture, natural blond. Paid 60 k for 30 minutes and 30 k for BBJ. Standard service, it was her first week, very nice flaca if you are into that. Saw a couple of other girls there as well, one was short with nice bolt ONS, service was decent. I preferred the girl in the ad. By far the best looking girls in one casa.

Stay away from the Secret Spa on la 70, the lineups are always full of ugly girls. Waste of time.

The other is a massage place but massage sucked. I can't find the ad anymore, don't think it's a well known spot, more for locals. It's close to a restaurant called Pomo d'oro. There is a clothing store two-three buildings away and there is a black door, with gate, you get buzzed in. Quick google search of that restaurant in La 70 will show you the clothing store and black door right next to it. Went in, seated, girls came one by one, picked a little older woman who was hot, but dam she would not stfu, next time I will just say no habla espanol. Standard session, massage then banging. Think it was 70 or 80 k for 30 minutes, wanted 20 k for BBJ but declined as I just wanted to bang her. Went back a few times, picked a younger flaca this time and paid for BBJ, nutted in her mouth or face can't remember. Don't get the massage there as it sucks and no hot water. Wasn't a problem for me as I lived a block away.

Went back to Tantra on a different day, believe it was Sunday, lineup sucked only 4 girls. I declined, while coming in noticed two cops behind me, on duty. Waited off to the side, not sure if both were there to bang while on duty or what but I dipped and went to New Life, think it was that, the one with blue doors close to centro. Told my driver the girls sucked so he is like I got a spot for you, I was like cool, took for f*cking ever to get there as he was not sure where exactly it was. 25 minutes later I open the blue door and get buzzed in right away. Go upstairs and of course there are gringos there. These mofos brought like 20+ girls on a Sunday afternoon, holy shit. I liked this morena but I took too long to make a selection and some gringo got her. Oh well, took next best thing and went to the room. I noped the f*ck our of there, I tried with the girl but those rooms are gross. I don't even know what I paid like 40-60 k but I dipped without busting a nut. No thanks you can have that. I can't do these bargain bin discount places.

Going back soon, going to hit up the spot that has ads in the morning and then have Facebook girls come over for 4-6 HR sessions towards the afternoon. Then at night, got a normal chick lined up who wants to party. Will report back.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2316772]How's the weather in June/July. I was in Bogota which is notoriously rainy, however I found it to be more showers that pass, then you get some sun too. I wasn't caught in the rain once in 12 days. Is it similar in Medellin (but just warmer) or can it be grey and rainy all day? Because that's what you would think just looking online.[/QUOTE]Monthly rainfall in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Coupe66;2316775]I'm reading a lot here about the prices having gone through the roof in Medellin for chicas, however online on sites like mileroticos I've seen quite a few chicas I like the look of offering an hour for anything between say 60 k and 120 k an hour, plus maybe 20 k per extra.

So have I just got lowbrow taste in chicas, or are these chicas likely to upsell a lot once you're with them in person? Just asking because I'm planning on coming soon, and as I see things online, prices seem pretty reasonable to me![/QUOTE]Guys, who shop in Poblado or only super popular hotties on FaceBook are paying more then avg, that's for sure.

Otherwise:

VeraCruz street chick: 30 k+-.

Raudal street chicks 60 k+-.

Casa's like yakuza and Chicas Punto: 50 k +-.

Centro strip club chicks on site: 60-80 k.

Up scale strip clubs:

Luna Lunera 150 k.

Fase II 190 k.

Las Islas 300 k.