Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=LukeSkyWanker]
Do everybody a favour and email her or call her saying nobody is interested as her prices are too high,
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It’s not just the price; it’s the restrictive and rigid rules she has. This kind of dictating approach may work in places where the numbers of (working) women are low in relation to their clients. However, in Pattaya where the supply of women is so high these types of women should be rejected emphatically. It’s sad that Nuefie felt he “got lucky with his slot.” If a woman starts off being this rigid when selling her services, like making it clear that it’s up to her what she will do” and raising her price if she doesn’t like you there’s a high probability she will be as restrictive in bed and the session will suck, but not in the way you want.

She has every right to have her standards but there’s no need for anyone to meet them when we are in a buyer’s market.

[quote]Originally posted by LukeSkyWanker

Neufie,

I hope you don't get many PMs for details, 3K/day or 5K/day if she doesn't like you? You can find many girls willing to spend all day with you for a thousand or less, June is low season so business is slow also we should be the ones setting the price not a thai hooker who thinks she is a little smarter.

Booked June what the fuck?

Only European what the fuck?

Up to her what the fuck?

Give us a break!

Do everybody a favour and email her or call her saying nobody is interested as her prices are too high, after ditch the contact details just in case some poor guy is trying to get rid of his lottery money and asks you for a phone number.

Sorry to to be hard on you but this forum is for helping fellow mongers find a good deal not ambitious hookers, lets do our bit to stop the Just prices creeping up in LOS. [/quote]A classic "the tail wags the dog" scenario injected with common sense, logic and reason by LukeSkyWanker!

This is directed to all the mongers who have so unkindly and unfairly vilified me in my past posts about the same topic, "Atrocious p4p prices in Thailand (especially in Bangkok) and what we CAN do about them", your welcome to have a go at me again but please, I BEG YOU:

- Be sure to ignore the fact that the vast majority of p4p, when they were charging xxxx baht for ST/LT and they "hooked up" with "Daddy Warbucks"(generous millionare in Little Orphan Annie) farang who paid them 1000 baht more and that is what they are now worth as someone paid them that sum, ONCE(at least, until a higher price is offered and then that is what they are worth and so on, and so on, ad infinitum! ).

It is similiar to walking up but NEVER walking down stairs and, to go lower in price from that point onwards, is to commit the ultimate Thai cultural sin and lose "face" and put them in disfavor with Buddha! (a little creative license sarcasm, here! )

- And please do not be satisfied until p4p is as expensive in Thailand as it is in South Korea (which is getting dangerioulsly close, if not already there, to p4p prices in Western countries). Remember, it doesn't matter if Thailand is cost-prohibitive to all but the wealthiest of mongers as there are MANY Asian countries that have infrastructures, cultures and a cost of living that are REALLY "poorer Western foreigner friendly", correct?

Let the poorer mongers go there, instead, if they want to monger that badly as I have the money to pay Thailand prices so why should I care about them!

- Lastly, please be sure to use (ad nauseum) the same old, over-used and worn-out justifications to over-pay in Thailand:

"It's so much cheaper than in my home country, it's a bargain"

"I can't be bothered to bargain, it's not worth the effort".

"If you find something you really like, why quibble on paying an extra 1000. 3000 baht for the quality"

"If you bargain them down they will act like statues in the room but pay them what they ask for and "the sky is the limit".

This is highly speculative and too YMMVish!

"It's a waist to bargain as Asians from other countries have "money to burn" and spend it like "there is no tomorrow" and always get all the better women, so you have to "match" or "outspend" them".

I challenge this last excuse to over-pay by stating that the richer Asian mongering groups can not be everywhere, all the time, soliciting p4p, and it is very doable to create a two-tiered level of cost expectation on the part of p4p women (as they do in some of the "oilies"/"soapies" pricing, ONLY IN REVERSE where foreign Asians are expected to pay more than farangs because they WILL pay more and farangs will REFUSE to pay more).

This CAN ONLY HAPPEN if farangs "hold the line" on being "big spenders" and "just say no" to over-paying!

Give it a go as you would be surprised how far a "NO" and the obvious movement towards another p4p women (or movement towards the door/walk away on the street) can have a p4p having "second thoughts" about the farang's (who she, in all probablity, will never see again) offer she just flat said no to (especially during the "slow" season)!

This is a true "win/win" situation as all farang will save money and it will not cause p4p women to lose "face".

In conclusion, my over-paying mongers, is there a shortage of p4p women in Thailand that are sexually desirable? Then why the fuck turn a "buyers' market" into a "sellers' market" by sheer selfishness and shortsightedness.

Cheers!

P.S. However, to prove I am not a totally obstinate bloke, I can accept "I'm on a tight schedule" or "I only have a few days to monger" as excuses IF they are REALLY telling the truth!

You sure you're not NEWFIE the CANUCK? Walking down beach about noon - several "hello" plus a couple of other announcements from pooying. For 3k/day I could have most of them in triples (3 at once) for $100/day I could get a WIFE

hallooo! plus a few sweet young things sitting on benches all over the place. Too tired though to have interest since just got in after 16.5 hour N-S flight.

first airport bus to patt still goes at 640 am - can get ticket on ground level 1 near the food court 106 B - 2 hours - also ends at soi chatapruk right at Jomtien beach road in Jomtien makes stops along Suk north central south but need to cross hiway to get bhat bus into town

I work in a fucked up country, and when I get out to bangers or anywhere else, I go for an experience. This may not suit you, you may not like or agree with the goings on. And on price, yes I have friends in BKK and know the rates. But up to me.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Run Mann]She has every right to have her standards but there’s no need for anyone to meet them when we are in a buyer’s market.[/QUOTE]Then Don't - It Is Simple - Yes?

[QUOTE=Neufie]Then Don't - It Is Simple - Yes?[/QUOTE]

You are right but wrong for trying to promote her here.

Run,

We are all (I hope) trying to provide specific info on ISG on how to get laid. Suggesting that someone is 'promoting' because they have provided/offered to provide info is tantamount to accusing that someone of being a pimp. While I would never be interested in the type of girl that Neufie has recommended in this thread, I see nothing in his posts that indicates a vested interest. Each to their own: Seems to me that Neufie has his own take on having a good time in LOS, and is reporting it here, which is great.

Terry,

You are narrowing and changing the definition of promotion. Promotion does not make him a pimp and I did not accuse him of being one. Customers can promote goods/services without receiving rewards; it happens here all the time and some portions of his post reads like a classified ad. I suspect he promoted her because he felt like her service was good. I actually felt for him because he appears to be very green. My point is that in Pattaya there no need to patronize girls like the one he had using those prices and structure of her services because of the vast availability of girls who offer better. Yes we are all sharing info and novices coming here need to know that Neufie’s girl is the exception and not the norm in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Run Mann]Terry,

You are narrowing and changing the definition of promotion.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm not.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Promotion does not make him a pimp and I did not accuse him of being one. [I]Customers can promote goods/services without receiving rewards; it happens here all the time.[/I][/QUOTE]
Yes, that's the core purpose of ISG.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]I suspect he promoted her because he felt like her service was good.[/QUOTE]
Funnily enough, so do I. And that's the core purpose of ISG.[QUOTE=Run Mann]I actually felt for him because he appears to be very green.[/QUOTE]
Having read his posting history, I disagree.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]My point is that in Pattaya there no need to patronize girls like the one he had using those prices and structure of her services because of the vast availability of girls who offer better.[/QUOTE]
Up to you, up to him. He appears to have had a great time.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Yes we are all sharing info and novices coming here need to know that Neufie’s girl is the exception and not the norm in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]
To paraphrase John Cleese and Monty Python, it's statin' the bleedin' obvious that using an escort-type service in Patts is the exception rather than the rule. Bet you a thousand baht that Neufie's recommend doesn't stop a single newbie from having it large in downtown Patts and paying something like the going rate in the morning.

TT,


Read again, now you are contradicting yourself but we agree to disagree on this issue. I stand by what I wrote and am looking forward to my 1000B.

Run,

Neufie has brought another option for shagging to the table. Luke has already highlighted the fact that it's quite an expensive option for this locality. Let's not slaughter the bloke over his obviously genuine input.

I agree with you Terry and if you read my original report on this issue, I addressed her rigidity not so much the price which is a subject I tend to stay away from. Look I believe he is sincere, but again he is green. The best part about this dialogue is that his post is here along with yours and mine (as well as others). We are all grown men here who are free to decide for ourselves.

Peace!

Gotta applaud Cheap Charlie. I mean, c'mon. Most of us wouldn't have thought to avoid a $30 bill by running and hiding, and then spending the rest of a trip to paradise worrying and looking over your shoulder, having to move from one location to the next like a fugutive! That takes some real fortitude to be able to spend ones vacation "avoiding" instead of "embracing". Seems a little silly now that in the past I've actually paid the girls and then basked in their (admittedly purchased) affections. Instead of spending $30 or $45 (after having spent $1000 to get there and home) or even the princely sum of $60 for great sex and relaxation, I'm gonna start to pump up the excitement by finding ways to avoid payment. It's fun to live on the edge, always apprehensive, always having to remain on guard. And afterall, I need that $60 far more than these girls for whom $60 is more than 2 weeks salary in a normal Thai job!

[QUOTE=Johnthescot]
DFK on the other hand is a bit different. Think I've found about 75% do and these tend to be from beer bar and gogo. Can't think of a single massage or soapy girl that has DFKed. Personally I can't think of anything more of a turn on than a real GFE so when they do DFK it just adds to the good time. I think it might be about how comfortable you make them feel. Be nice and have a laugh with them and much more likely to get that GFE.
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Is there something wrong with you? Smoker?

A good percentage of Soapy and Massage shop girls, do DFK, but certainly not all. Maybe 60-70%.

Some start off with no DFK but later loose control.

i visited the hell club yesterday and the only thing harder than my appendage was finding the place. but if you head up soi diana from second road and turn left passing lollitas, it is just round the corner on the left.

about 15 ladies and had a great time. note that the "3 way" girls are on the right here so don't get confused. its pretty obvious really considering the right side is the smaller side.

marc was a star, clearly telling you the deal and anything you need to know. his absolutley gorgeous wife speaks great english too. everything else is as has been well explained. note that 70% of their business is repeat so that must tell you something. the other thing is you are free to pick both ladies. the first girl picking the second is a hangover from the eden club where the lunchtime corporates are in a hurry to get back to their beloveds so need the high speed treatment!

try it once and if you like it, go back.

c1