The (delusional) force is strong with this one!
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2684117]Show up, announce you want citizenship and voila -- "approved!" Just like it works everywhere else in the world. And for all other peoples.[/QUOTE]You appear to have a very strained relationship with actual facts.
Fact #1: There are millions of people around the world who might qualify for Israeli citizenship under current Israeli law.
Fact #2: NONE (as in zero, zip, nada) of those eligible people are currently Israeli citizens. They don't have Israeli passports, they can't vote in Israeli elections, they can't exercise ANY of the rights that pertain exclusively to Israeli citizens.
Fact #3: These two groups, existing citizens and those who are prospectively eligible for citizenship, are completely separate and discrete. Non-citizens are, by definition, not citizens. That would seem to be obvious and self-evident, but apparently that truth appears to be lost on you.
BTW, there are a number of countries that allow citizenship by virtue of heritage, so that's not unique to Israel. Israel chooses to define heritage along religious lines, which is understandable in that they see themselves as a refuge and homeland for Jews. I'm not Jewish, but I have no problem with any country making their own decisions about eligibility for citizenship.
[URL]https://www.forbes.com/sites/joesills/2020/09/30/these-countries-will-grant-you-citizenship-based-on-your-ancestry/amp/[/URL]
Also, there are plenty of countries for which you can buy your citizenship. Are those rules ok with you? No connection at all with the country is required, not birth, not heritage, not religious connection, nothing except having lots of cash.
[URL]https://www.fodors.com/news/deals/how-to-buy-citizenship-around-the-world[/URL]
Are you similarly outraged at all of these programs and the people who take advantage of them? Or is Israel your sole focus? That last question is actually rhetorical as I think I already know the answer.
The problem with believing your own propaganda
[QUOTE=PedroMorales;2684311]The rouble is strong, stronger than it was when Russia began stemming the Nazis? Follow so far?
They are facts.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russias-rouble-rebound-not-quite-what-it-seems-2022-04-08/[/URL]
*"all is not what it seems and the exchange rate used in everyday transactions is sometimes very different to the official one".
*"anyone who tries to buy foreign currency online at a bank or, illegally, at a foreign exchange booth, or who buys goods and services online denominated in foreign currencies will find the actual rate considerably worse".
*"defending the rouble, never mind the real economy, makes sense as a propaganda strategy".
*"demand for FX was artificially suppressed. Russia banned cash purchases of dollars and euros, introduced a 12% commission on buying foreign currency online, and set the maximum amount that an individual could withdraw from their bank account at $10,000 until Sept. 9."
*"Within a short walking distance of the Kremlin, an exchange office behind an unmarked door offered to sell cash dollars for 93 roubles and euros for 103 roubles on Thursday."
Quite a difference between the official version and how things actually operate in the real world! And that's not even factoring inflation into the mix.
*"I used to buy cans of Dutch-made baby formula for 2,500 roubles before Feb. 24," said Marina, a Moscow resident, with her newborn baby. "Now the same can costs 4,500 roubles."
*"Since Feb. 24, food prices have soared, taking the year-to-date increase in prices for cabbage and carrots to 85% and 54%, respectively, according to statistics service Rosstat. Prices of imported goods jumped even higher, with prices for some foreign-made cars more than doubling."
I wonder how long it will take before the average Russian starts going under as a result of these economic conditions? I suspect it might be sooner than you think.
*"A survey by state polling agency VTsIOM from February showed that 64% of people in Russia had no savings".
As I said, the ruble is rubble and Russia is flushing itself down the toilet. Follow so far?
Me, My Money and my Mouth
[QUOTE=VinDici;2684421]So you won't put your money where your mouth is. I guess we know who the real coward is.
I have no plans on moving from my abode, so yes I will be a man of principle. Perhaps you should also convert all your liquidity to RUB and show us that you can stand for what you believe in, or are you as cowardly as Medro?[/QUOTE]I put my money where my mouth is, you American moron. People who know me know I am no coward, quite the opposite. You, on the other hand, are an American, and a guy on a hookers; forum proffering financial advice.
Guess what. I give away 100% of what I earn, all of it.
You are the type of fat, ugly American who threatens America you will leave if your side loses one of your fake elections.
I see The Russians blew up another couple of hundred million dollars of your weapons that cxame v ia the posatage stamp country of Slovenia.
Americans, fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian. With your regime change be s in Pakistan, you have started bombing Afghanistan again, but it might not work as million s of Pakistanis are out on the streets.
Solomon Islands: China advances. Take your McDonalds, your Coca Cola and your KFC and fuck off back to America. I would say Hollywood too only that is gone down the tube. Two wankers slapping each other. Two comedians who have nowhere near the wealth Zelensky has.
Zelensky will win a Nobel Peace Prize, like that mas murderer Zelensky got.
You want cowards? Here are American cowardly scum walking through Hanoi. They deserved to be skinned alive for their crimes. These animals included John McCain who cried like a dog when captured and never even thanking the Vietnamese farmer who saved his life.
You must be confusing me with someone who gives a shit about your world view
[QUOTE=Golfinho;2684481]But, of course. The man who could have chosen to "buy citizenship" anywhere, chooses a little ethno-apartheid settler colonial state that is always crying it is in such mortal peril and needs billions of American taxpayer money to survive. Clearly the logical choice for an oligarchic billionaire seeking expedited service, and wealth-sheltering, especially if he wants a place from where he can't get extradited.
Glad to help you understand how things really work.[/QUOTE]I don't give a rat's ass about how you think things work. Subjective opinions and biases are tiresome and nearly always lacking in intellectual rigor.
What I care about are empirically verifiable facts. And one empirically verifiable fact, which your biases render you incapable of recognizing, or drive you toward incoherent obfuscation of, is that a non-citizen is categorically not a citizen until they are granted that legal status by the authority empowered to do so.
That's true in Israel and every other country on the face of the planet. It's quite ludicrous to watch your gyrations as you try to ignore or deny the simple, observable, and verifiable, fact that Prokhorov was not an Israeli citizen when he arrived there. All your BS is nothing more than your own projections looking for any nook and cranny into which you can jam your anti-Semitic screeds. And all the pseudo-points you try to make have one thing in common: they're completely tangential and irrelevant to the simple facts I've laid out.
It's quite an illuminating study into the mental contortions someone's biases can cause them to have. I'm happy to have been the instrument of drawing them out for others to witness. Please feel free to continue your mental masturbatory exercises, I'm sure you won't let something as basic as evidence and facts dissuade you. It'll be fun to see what you come up with next. It's rather like an anti-Jew game of Twister, don't you think? I wonder what will your sad little internal spinner will command you to do next? Right hand, Yellow! Left foot, Blue!
