Seeking Arrangements

Hopefully you guys are not wasting your time on any profiles that only have one photo.

I'm not talking about one photo is visible and the rest are private: I'm talking about one photo and one photo only on the profile.

I wish SA would make it a requirement that all profiles have to have a minimum of 3 (different) photos in order to be shown.

Those 1 pic only accounts are just spam accounts. I don't take any female seriously who only has one damn photo on her profile. I treat them the same as I would on Tinder: Next!

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2455533]It is looking like the 22-year old hustled me. She kept saying she was not a hooker. I tried to make the relationship non-transactional putting half the money into her account before we met. I also guaranteed her $2500 for June. I was going to put in $500 every Monday morning. On the next date she would have to get naked and perform oral sex. I tried to play the long game.

$600 to learn that Seeking is not that much different from finding hookers.
[/QUOTE]Man, you are a scammers's wet dream! This guy is guaranteeing all kinds of big bucks without even getting a sniff of the panties!

This is why I tell you guys to never ever show your face on these SB sites. Now all the guys in Nigeria and Bangalore know that this one sends money to any hot piece of ass without requiring a meeting first!

If I ever lose my job I will supplement my income by just putting up profiles of hot 22 yr olds on SA to get goobers to send me money with nothing but a digital pinky-swear required of me.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2455674]Hi guys,

Just got here yesterday. Flew in from Miami, the plane was 99% full, mostly with Mexicans returning back home. The temperature was taken upon arrival, I was also asked a few questions by the immigration officers in a separate room, took about 15-20 minutes and they let me in. The city is half empty, most businesses are shut down as I had expected. No surprise here. The weather is great and I am enjoying my walks around the city and parks. I assume the scene here is dead, but at the same time I know there are many working girls who can't wait to get back to business. I was wondering if there are any reputable escort agencies as well as individuals who are still in the biz and doing outcalls. Any suggestions? I'm not that desperate to get laid, in fact mongering is not the reason I'm here, but it would be great to find 1 or 2 working girls and just stick to them, have them come over every other day or occasional TLN. I do not trust websites like mileroticos. Too much bait and switch. I have tried Tinder but no success so far (is there a different app that girls use?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I'm glad to hear you got into Mexico without any problems. I am returning in August. Definitely ready to get away. I have been to GDL a few times and headed to Puebla this trip. Seeking Arrangements has been very good to me on these trips. Mostly students looking to pick up some extra money. The membership is high at $90 a month. Juan Carter is a wealth of knowledge as well. Good luck. I would be very interested in how your trip goes.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2455734]Hopefully you guys are not wasting your time on any profiles that only have one photo.

I'm not talking about one photo is visible and the rest are private: I'm talking about one photo and one photo only on the profile.

I wish SA would make it a requirement that all profiles have to have a minimum of 3 (different) photos in order to be shown.

Those 1 pic only accounts are just spam accounts. I don't take any female seriously who only has one damn photo on her profile. I treat them the same as I would on Tinder: Next![/QUOTE]You have a disrespectful and condescending tone, in this comment and the one above this.

And I need to call bull& on your idea that any girl that has just one photo is automatically a scammer? There are millions of guys and girls all across SA all across the globe. Have you sampled and tested ALL of them? I have personally had some good arrangements with girls who happened to have just one photo. And I have run into tons of scammers who have 10 glossy spreads. If anything, some one who has very glamorous, model looking, in gorgeous bikini, with a fabulous background, high quality camera photos is more likely to be a scammer or at least a professional who is doing this purely for commercial reasons. The slightly shy, first timer or semi hesitant student type girl stepping into the waters in a somewhat careful manner is likely to be covered up, not too many photos for privacy reasons and photo quality may not be good.

One of my best ever arrangements was with a European girl who had a single photo, was in my town for a few months, and photo quality was crappy. She did not look all that great in the photo and she did not want to meet me at all and I too was not particularly keen. When we finally met, she looked super gorgeous, the meet went so well and we had a torrid affair for nearly 2 months, one of the best sex ever; she was a few months short of 22, blonde, amazing bod and cute face and nice breath and tasty pussy, spoke good English but sexy foreign access and was just awesome in bed. I almost cried when she went back to her home country as I knew I would have huge difficulty finding someone equally good and so far I have and't. So, I would never have these silly rules like "all one photo girls are scammers" etc. And most importantly, to anyone wanting to try out SA or any other sugar babe sites for that matter, I would try them out on your own, form your own views, use your own brain, and enjoy the process. This thread and other mongers writing here are good for interesting anecdotes and entertainment, but their experiences will never be your experiences. Stop listening to anyone claiming to be experts and do what comes naturally, using your own brain.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2455832]And I need to call bull& on your idea that any girl that has just one photo is automatically a scammer?.[/QUOTE]Where did I say anything about 1 pic profiles being "scammers"?

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2455734]Those 1 pic only accounts are just spam accounts. I don't take any female seriously who only has one damn photo on her profile.[/QUOTE]At least get my quote correct!

And I stand by what I said. Again, my information is you S A specific. Any dating profile that you come across on Tinder, Bumble, SA, etc, where the female profile one and only one photo is either:

A) A spam account.

B) Someone trying to "Catfish".

C) Someone who doesn't give a shit enough to care about dating. So why would you waste your time on someone who doesn't even give a shit enough to upload more photos of themselves?

Sorry you didn't know this. I mean, you can even google the shit yourself and find people saying the exact same thing (only I am smart enough to know this stuff instinctively and didn't need anyone to tell me something so obvious:

[B]How to Spot Fake Online Profiles[/B]

3. They only have one photo.

"Having only one photo can be a major red flag, especially if the person is extremely attractive in that one photo."

[URL]https://onlineprofilepros.com/spot-fake-online-profiles/[/URL]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2455738]Man, you are a scammers's wet dream! This guy is guaranteeing all kinds of big bucks without even getting a sniff of the panties!

This is why I tell you guys to never ever show your face on these SB sites. Now all the guys in Nigeria and Bangalore know that this one sends money to any hot piece of ass without requiring a meeting first!

If I ever lose my job I will supplement my income by just putting up profiles of hot 22 yr olds on SA to get goobers to send me money with nothing but a digital pinky-swear required of me.[/QUOTE]I played my hand and I lost. Big deal. I will treat them as prostitutes from now on. I thought there was a difference between an arrangement and an escort. I have met her in person. I thought she would be great to have as a sugar baby. This woman is a good-looking UC student. She kept saying she did not want to be a working girl. One report on ISG said that an UC Berkeley woman received $3000 a month. I was trying for $2000. I will not give her any more money but she is still texting me once a day. Right now she is at one of the local demonstrations. I am probably a fall back position for her now. Have fun with your $30 dollar tattooed hookers with a kid in Medellin if that is your thing. I will probably meet you down there one day.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2455328]It took a degree of effort to seal the deal. We all know this to be true. The chatting, ghosting, and picture trading is endless and you do have to find those girls that show heightened interest or ask why don't you write them often in order to increase your probability for success.[/QUOTE]OK total respect to fellow mongers out there and whatever floats your boat is your thing and it's not for me to judge but good heavens there seem to be a lot of deluded fools on this thread (perhaps you aren't deluded but you actually enjoy the experience of being taken for a fool, if so I apologise).

I usually post on another specific forum, but bored with this WuFlu lockdown I started looking around to see how the rest of the world lives and I came upon this thread.

The more I read the farther my chin dropped toward the floor. I could barely believe the naivety that I was reading on a forum dedicated to having sex with prostitutes.

Look guys, these "SBs" of which you speak are prostitutes, very expensive prostitutes and prostitutes that play hard to get and take a lot of time and effort to have sex with, you know what that makes them? Very bad prostitutes.

I don't wish to single out one poster but this post summed it up for me, why on earth should you have to go to all that trouble to have sex with a woman whom you are paying to have sex with?

I used to go through all that effort as a young man desperately seeking to have sex with a woman I fancied, the dates, the dressing up, the trying to impress, the attempt to prove I have game, the spending money on expensive dinners in the sad hope that she might find me acceptable to her, the disappointment when she decided I didn't meet her high standards or that she actually had a better offer that night. But see, I wasn't paying these women money to have sex, I wanted sex at the end of it without payment.

Then I discovered prostitutes and my world became clearer. I want sex? I pay for it and I get it on my terms and she does my bidding. No more desperately trying to please, I have what she wants and if she wants it I better get what I want no questions asked, no begging, and as I am the customer I will set the terms of the deal.

See how simple that is guys?

What in the name of absolute fcuk are you putting yourselves through all these hoops for to get what everyone else here is getting with minimal effort?

Did you not suffer enough rejection in your lives as young adolescents? Are you desperately trying to recreate that teenage angst as older men?

Are you trying to prove something to yourselves about your alpha male status? Because I hate to break it to you, you're all coming across as pussy-whipped cukcs. You're putting up with all the shit of middle-class, middle-aged, married American guys desperate to have sex with hot young women and paying top dollar for all the aggravation.

Wake up guys, you clearly have money to burn, take the easy option and just pick an honest, professional wh () re instead of these woman who are treating you worse than your wives.

Do you feel good knowing that after you pay hundreds of dollars to fcuk them they go home and share the money with the sort of deadbeat, jock losers that used to bully you at school? Is this some sort of reverse revenge thing going on?

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;2455879]I played my hand and I lost. Big deal. I will treat them as prostitutes from now on. I thought there was a difference between an arrangement and an escort. I have met her in person. I thought she would be great to have as a sugar baby. This woman is a good-looking UC student. She kept saying she did not want to be a working girl. One report on ISG said that an UC Berkeley woman received $3000 a month. I was trying for $2000. I will not give her any more money but she is still texting me once a day. Right now she is at one of the local demonstrations. I am probably a fall back position for her now. Have fun with your $30 dollar tattooed hookers with a kid in Medellin if that is your thing. I will probably meet you down there one day.[/QUOTE]Not my place to tell a grown man what to do with his money.

Anytime I see those kinds of numbers floated around, I then ask myself:

"What is it that one woman could do for me for that amount of money?

I know that:

- If I wanted to spend $3000 on sex, I could find 10 college babes who would be more than happy to take $300 per meet up. Or 2 chicks that I really dig who I can give $300 to 5 times each.

- I could spend $3000 on YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook ads and make $30,000.

- Don't even get me started on Medellin. My last trip I banged 20 different women and only spent $1500 on the endeavor.

I could go on, but nothing leads me to the conclusion that any one woman would be worth $3000 for any reason whatsoever.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2455885]OK total respect to fellow mongers out there and whatever floats your boat is your thing and it's not for me to judge but good heavens there seem to be a lot of deluded fools on this thread (perhaps you aren't deluded but you actually enjoy the experience of being taken for a fool, if so I apologise).

I usually post on another specific forum, but bored with this WuFlu lockdown I started looking around to see how the rest of the world lives and I came upon this thread.

The more I read the farther my chin dropped toward the floor. I could barely believe the naivety that I was reading on a forum dedicated to having sex with prostitutes.

Look guys, these "SBs" of which you speak are prostitutes, very expensive prostitutes and prostitutes that play hard to get and take a lot of time and effort to have sex with, you know what that makes them? Very bad prostitutes.

I don't wish to single out one poster but this post summed it up for me, why on earth should you have to go to all that trouble to have sex with a woman whom you are paying to have sex with?

I used to go through all that effort as a young man desperately seeking to have sex with a woman I fancied, the dates, the dressing up, the trying to impress, the attempt to prove I have game, the spending money on expensive dinners in the sad hope that she might find me acceptable to her, the disappointment when she decided I didn't meet her high standards or that she actually had a better offer that night. But see, I wasn't paying these women money to have sex, I wanted sex at the end of it without payment.[/QUOTE]Hey,

This guy gets it, LOL. One of the best posts that I've read in a long while.

I don't have anything further to add.

But in all fairness: professional wh () res have deadbeat, jock losers too, LOL.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2455885]OK total respect to fellow mongers out there and whatever floats your boat is your thing and it's not for me to judge but good heavens there seem to be a lot of deluded fools on this thread (perhaps you aren't deluded but you actually enjoy the experience of being taken for a fool, if so I apologise). [/QUOTE]It is just another game and I am bored. I usually go to Europe in the summer and probably will not go this year. I get tired of prostitutes too. With Covid 19, it would be a little better if the girl is maybe only fucking one other guy. You can find straight out hookers in my town on Seeking.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2455885]
Do you feel good knowing that after you pay hundreds of dollars to fcuk them they go home and share the money with the sort of deadbeat, jock losers that used to bully you at school? Is this some sort of reverse revenge thing going on?[/QUOTE]For me I know that SA provides me with better 'bang' for my mongering buck. My current girl sticks around for 4 hours of sexual activity for $300 whereas a similar professional would be asking $2,000. On my business trips where I have take a SB for a set weekly fee of $700 and had a sexual companion for 7 nights.

[QUOTE=Hilo77;2455885]
Look guys, these "SBs" of which you speak are prostitutes, very expensive prostitutes and prostitutes that play hard to get and take a lot of time and effort to have sex with, you know what that makes them? Very bad prostitutes.

[/QUOTE]Hilo, normally I wouldn't respond to a such a rant, but you put some thought into your screed, so I thought I'd reply.

On SA, there are gals that provide GF experiences that are much better than regular prostitutes, and some gals that provide hellish experiences much worse than regular prostitutes. In this thread, we are merely discussing on how to find the former. That's all.

I hooked up with 24-25 SBs, and this is out of about 50-60 meet-and-greets. None of them were prostitutes. Zero. No exaggeration. You might think I got fooled by some of them, but I didn't. Half of the 24-25 never even asked me for a dime. My SBs included a law student, an accountant, a restaurant owner, a Berkeley undergrad, a PhD student, a website designer, a stage hand, a recent divorcee, several people starting a new business, etc. They weren't lying. We talked about all this shit while we were shooting whisky or drinking wine. We all know there are young gals that are into older and successful guys. How else are we going to easily make the connection, other than via SA? Many of these SBs genuinely liked me. Again, I wasn't fooled. I can tell when a gal really likes me. But there definitely are prostitutes on SA and other undesirables, but we mostly try to avoid them. They are pretty easy to spot.

BTW, no one ever said we were giving up prostitutes to find SBs. While I was active on SA, I continued to sleep with prostitutes on a weekly basis.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2455890]Hey,


But in all fairness: professional wh () res have deadbeat, jock losers too, LOL.[/QUOTE]For sure, but as I am not paying upwards of a grand to sleep with her in between the free sex she's giving deadbeat jock it kinda doesn't bother me who else she's banging.

Furthermore as I haven't spent weeks desperately trying to convince her what a great guy I am so she will be nice to me and let me give her money, I actually don't care about the fact that she thinks more highly of the guy who doesn't give her money and expects her to screw him for free.

The fact that a wh () re thinks I am a first class asshole has never bothered me, but if I had spent weeks and hundreds of dollars to convince her I was a nice guy it might hurt a bit.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2455939]Hilo, normally I wouldn't respond to a such a rant, but you put some thought into your screed, so I thought I'd reply.

On SA, there are gals that provide GF experiences that are much better than regular prostitutes, and some gals that provide hellish experiences much worse than regular prostitutes. In this thread, we are merely discussing on how to find the former. That's all.

I hooked up with 24-25 SBs, and this is out of about 50-60 meet-and-greets. None of them were prostitutes. Zero. No exaggeration. You might think I got fooled by some of them, but I didn't. Half of the 24-25 never even asked me for a dime. My SBs included a law student, an accountant, a restaurant owner, a Berkeley undergrad, a PhD student, a website designer, a stage hand, a recent divorcee, several people starting a new business, etc. They weren't lying. We talked about all this shit while we were shooting whisky or drinking wine. We all know there are young gals that are into older and successful guys. How else are we going to easily make the connection, other than via SA? Many of these SBs genuinely liked me. Again, I wasn't fooled. I can tell when a gal really likes me. But there definitely are prostitutes on SA and other undesirables, but we mostly try to avoid them. They are pretty easy to spot.

BTW, no one ever said we were giving up prostitutes to find SBs. While I was active on SA, I continued to sleep with prostitutes on a weekly basis.[/QUOTE]Fair enough, so you use it as a dating site to meet a better class of girlfriend, most of us would use Tinder for that and not expect to pay to screw the dates, but each to his own.

But at the end of the day you have not contradicted anything I have said, the SBs have made it clear by the very fact that they are on SA that they view the relationships they seek as transactional. They are looking for "older and successful" guys (you are one of these presumably) to have sex with and to get paid for doing so. Sure they are intelligent lasses, they know how to stroke "older and successful" guys' egos and will never say that outright, but the fact that they are on SA is a pretty big neon flashing sign.

I can tell that you are not so naive as to believe you are the only "older and successful" guy that these recent divorcees and Berkely undergrads are shooting wine and whiskey with. You are cool with that, you enjoy the GFE while having your ego stroked, that's nice. I enjoy it when I am in a brothel and the h**ker pretends like she is my girfriend for the hour, it's a bonus if it happens and she'll get a nice tip at the end of it.

The fact remains, however, that you are paying a hell of a lot of money and going through huge efforts to sleep with (ok, semi) prostitutes, and that just amazes me.

But like I say, each to their own.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2455939]Hilo, normally I wouldn't respond to a such a rant, but you put some thought into your screed, so I thought I'd reply.

On SA, there are gals that provide GF experiences that are much better than regular prostitutes, and some gals that provide hellish experiences much worse than regular prostitutes. In this thread, we are merely discussing on how to find the former. That's all.

I hooked up with 24-25 SBs, and this is out of about 50-60 meet-and-greets. None of them were prostitutes. Zero. No exaggeration. You might think I got fooled by some of them, but I didn't. Half of the 24-25 never even asked me for a dime. My SBs included a law student, an accountant, a restaurant owner, a Berkeley undergrad, a PhD student, a website designer, a stage hand, a recent divorcee, several people starting a new business, etc. They weren't lying. We talked about all this shit while we were shooting whisky or drinking wine. We all know there are young gals that are into older and successful guys. How else are we going to easily make the connection, other than via SA? Many of these SBs genuinely liked me. Again, I wasn't fooled. I can tell when a gal really likes me. But there definitely are prostitutes on SA and other undesirables, but we mostly try to avoid them. They are pretty easy to spot.

BTW, no one ever said we were giving up prostitutes to find SBs. While I was active on SA, I continued to sleep with prostitutes on a weekly basis.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I have to disagree girls on SA are definitely prostitutes. They may be slightly higher classes. Remember most everyone on the site is lying in one form or another and it is definitely transactional.

Have to disagree with you on this one.