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[QUOTE=Rangerz99]Mates'. This is 'help-needed' time.

Just the 2nd trip to HK and though I have browsed some great reports here, need to know what are the best options for a short trip, 2-3 days. Preferably places in afternoon and very late evening. Sauna's or full service MPs?

Am checking 141 lists also.

Staying at Wanchai. Any walkable places.

Thanks in advance mates. All help is much appreciated.

There is a lot about 37 Dundas, where is this located?

And should any local mongers want to catch up for drinks. Happy to get together.[/QUOTE]

Bro, some in for for you:

The 141 site has info about walk ups (Girls in apartments) average price $300 - $500. There is also Hotel Girl pricing, (ie. girls based out of a mainstream hotel room) average price $600 - $800 for PRC, $1,000 for Mongolian Girls pretending they are Korean and $1500 for Korean girls pretending they are Japanese.

37 Dundas is located at number 37 Dundas Street in Mong Kok. Do a search here for more info. Average cost $500 including room hire.

The Hotel Girls are usually much better looking than walk ups or 37D girls but of course you pay more.

In all cases (walk ups, Hotel Girls and 37D girls) you are paying for less than an hour session. Double session = double price. Over night session = approx 3 - 4 times the price.

You will often get better value picking girls up in Wan Chai Bars. Bros have already mentioned the best 2 (Escape & Neptune 2). There are a dozen or more others. I did a report some time ago that included a price guide and also another report that had a link to a map to most of the Wan Chai bars. Good luck.

Good luck.

Bro, this is the earlier post about pricing. Hope helpful.

[QUOTE=Tony Toro]
I posted this originally in another thread in the 141 forum. I hope it is helpful. As with any "PRICE GUIDE" there are many variables that can effect the outcome, however this represents a good starting point for punters new to Bar Punting scene.

(1) what do you mean by ST and LT? For example, a regular visitor to HG's may say that a ST is 45 mins while a long time is a double session of 90 mins to 2 hours. On the other hand, when you pick a girl up at a bar a ST usually means 2 - 3 hours while a LT may mean over night.

(2) what day is it? Girls want more on Fridays and Saturdays. They want more when the bar is busy and there are lots of punters. Obviously that also means they will accept less on quiet nights when it's cold outside.

(3) chemistry... This is the big one. Walk up to a girl and say "how much *****?" or have a "I'm better than you attitude" and your price will go up. Act drunk, aggressive, over bearing and your price will be sky high. Buy the girl a drink, relax, listen to some music, have a dance and treat her like a human being instead of a ***** and you will get a much better deal. Other issues are common sense... if you own a Rolex, be sure to tell her you bought it at the market... they do look at how you are dressed.

(4) just accept they do not care how "good looking" you are, or you "think" you are... they care about your money. The only issue is that if they can have some fun and friendship while they are taking your money they like it better. They would much prefer a polite and considerate ugly guy than a handsome prick. Of course, if you're good looking as well that's great... but they don't care. They'd much rather you look "successful".

(5) what are you looking for? Fil, Thai, INDO, Vietnam, Local girl?

Best "value" will be Filipina girls. I have had my share but not really my scene. I know lots of Bros who do their nuts over them though so each to his own... at a Wan Chai Bar it is possible you could get HKD600 ~ 1,000 for an over nighter. She will not be drop dead gorgeous though. I've seen some Bros go back to their room with some average looking gals.

If you are checking out the Bar scene, and you want hot looking women, a price guide is as follows:
(this is the price you should pay, NOT the price they will initially ask for)
I am basing the prices on really good looking girls 8/10 or better... you will need to talk to them and assess whether or not the service will be good yourself.

Nationality / comment / ST 2 - 3 hours HK$ / LT overnight HK$

Japan / Hard to find & need some nurturing to get anywhere near a GFE / 1500 / 3000
Korea / sometimes lots, other times scarce, find a good one and WOW / 1200 / 2000
Mongolia / YUM, YUM YUM!!! I can only say try and you will know / 1000 / 2000
China / very good value but not a huge choice available in bars in HK / 800 / 1200
Russian / Can be very HOT but moody / 1500 / 2500
Filipina / Biggest range of choice, speak great English and offer solid GFE / 800 / 1500
Thai / Can be stunning looking... STUNNING... but there's always the chance that... / 800 / 1500
Vietnam / Gorgeous often stunning but all about $$$, hard to get real GFE / 1000 / 2000

These are just "typical" rates. You can put the price up by acting like a jerk. You can reduce the price by being polite and also by seeing the same gal 2 - 3 nights in a row. If you meet a girl at 9pm Friday night and want LT, you will pay more than if you meet her at 1am. You can also get a better price by picking a less beautiful gal. etc...

You can also get lower pricing by choosing a less attractive girl. No doubt there are Bros who will say that they picked up a 8 or 9 standard girl and only paid... "whatever". That's great! However what is 8 or 9 for me may only be 6 or 7 to you. The reality is this: The more popular a girl is with punters generally, the more money she will want from you. The fact you may or may not be a handsome cool dude is not what she's looking for, she wants YOUR money.

Over time, it is definitely possible to lower rates by developing a friendship, no doubt this can lower your prices significant as she learns you are not an aggressive pain in the ass to deal with... but not after chatting for 5 minutes in a bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tony Toro]Bro, some in for for you:

You will often get better value picking girls up in Wan Chai Bars. Bros have already mentioned the best 2 (Escape & Neptune 2). There are a dozen or more others. I did a report some time ago that included a price guide and also another report that had a link to a map to most of the Wan Chai bars.[/QUOTE]

Well, while I did have my first Wan Chai experience with a big breasted Filipina from Neptune's, I have to say that on my last few trips, I've gotten sick of the place. Girls too pushy and too business-like. I think it was in April or May that I had an average but slutty looking girl in there quote me $2K HK for LT and it was already 2 AM. I actually laughed in her face as it was just ridiculous for her and for the time.

Also they do not crack down on smoking in Neptune's so if you are the least bit allergic, you will be in agony in that place some nights.

I've had hotties and nice average GFE-girls from Escape. Depends on the night and the gal. There are certainly some hotties in there.

What about Laguna? Good selection, very laid back atmosphere, and -- provided u are not talking to a girl who just wants to sell you drinks -- pretty reliable some nights. Things just don't seem as aggressive in there the way they do in Neptune's (and in Escape some times).

I also am starting to like Amazona. The band is usually amazing and there are typically a few older Fils who are easy to pull.

[QUOTE=Thewayoflaotzu]Well, while I did have my first Wan Chai experience with a big breasted Filipina from Neptune's, I have to say that on my last few trips, I've gotten sick of the place. Girls too pushy and too business-like. I think it was in April or May that I had an average but slutty looking girl in there quote me $2K HK for LT and it was already 2 AM. I actually laughed in her face as it was just ridiculous for her and for the time.

Also they do not crack down on smoking in Neptune's so if you are the least bit allergic, you will be in agony in that place some nights.

I've had hotties and nice average GFE-girls from Escape. Depends on the night and the gal. There are certainly some hotties in there.

What about Laguna? Good selection, very laid back atmosphere, and -- provided u are not talking to a girl who just wants to sell you drinks -- pretty reliable some nights. Things just don't seem as aggressive in there the way they do in Neptune's (and in Escape some times).

I also am starting to like Amazona. The band is usually amazing and there are typically a few older Fils who are easy to pull.[/QUOTE]

I agree with much of what you say Bro.

I need to add though, Neptune 2 has it's "ok" nights and it's "amazing" nights. Escape is less full on but more consistent. I like Laguna and Amazonia and agree that the band in Amazonia is great and Laguna is much more "comfortable and relaxed" than Neptune 2. For punting only, based on overall QTY and Quality of girls in Wan Chai, I think Escape and Neptune 2 are consistently the best. Personally, I much prefer Hari's Bar in TST.

Also, I'm confident you could have had the girl that asked for 2K for half that if you tried. You know the drill, they all start high and end up at market rate unless they are lucky enough to land a newbie with cash. Nothing to do with the bar you were in.

There is a very comprehensive Bar Punting guide in the CHAT section of the 141 forum that reviews most venues.

[QUOTE=Mreaton]FYI was down in Wan Chai last night, the Navy has arrived.[/QUOTE]

Is it really so bad?

The ship has only 2.200 sailors on board. Last time there had > 5.000 people.
2.200 people should mean only a few 100s more in the bars. I will check it tonight.

[QUOTE=Plasman]Hi Guys,

Can anyone please give me the address for KP.

Did a search as I'm sure the address is here but too many results to sift through.

Are these 2 places obvious from the street or do you need to

"go up the stairs and around the corner etc".

Thanks[/QUOTE]


Look at report #4240. Next MTR station : Jordan. Exit A.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1035511&postcount=4240[/url]

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]Yes terrible. I turned around on the spot and went back home. They were even smoking cigars in Neptune II. That law is a joke as long as those places are run by triades.[/QUOTE]

Navy personnel aren't allowed in the bars? Or is it just Neptune II?

[QUOTE=Gwailo]Navy personnel aren't allowed in the bars? Or is it just Neptune II?[/QUOTE]
No one is allowed to smoke in any bar. But Neptunes seems not to give a sh*t.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]No one is allowed to smoke in any bar. But Neptunes seems not to give a sh*t.[/QUOTE]

Short report:

Was yesterday evening in Neptunes II. Not too many Navy boys and girls.
So all was fine.

The only people I saw smoking were some Chinese and Western business people......

The Neptunes staff reminded some of them, but gave up finally.

Nevertheless I was happy to find a fine company for my night. HKD 1k for LT incl. taxi, payable 700 + 300 based on the overall performance.

Overall, it was like always.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]No one is allowed to smoke in any bar. But Neptunes seems not to give a sh*t.[/QUOTE]
Another one is Neptune 3 (which is nothing to do with Neptune 2) and located on Lockhart where Dreams 2 used to be... serious...

I was there a few weeks ago. Not only can you some there... staff will actually offer you an ash tray! Don't recommend this bar though. It is one of the "Girlie Bars" (where you need to buy girl drinks at crazy prices) pretending to be a main stream punting bar like Neptune 2 and Escape.

See you in Carnegies tonight.

Let's check out the other bars after a beer.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]No one is allowed to smoke in any bar. But Neptunes seems not to give a sh*t.[/QUOTE]

Well I think they shouldn't discriminate and welcome anyone in.

Just came back with a nice girl from Carnegies. Seems to be from Vienna. Wasn't able to figure it out. She is now showering...

Didn't expect this. It is my first time in HK that I met a nice woman who went with me without being a WG. I guess it is not about something special, it is more about Saturday night, a fantastic evening in Carnegies and great people.

Nevertheless Carnegies is a crazy place, didn't know that Rugby players are so dangerous.

When you want to have nice experience, if you are able to go for a hunt without wanking with money, but able to be a nice guy, then there is a reasonable chance to meet a nice woman in Carnegies. It isn't easy, but it is fun.

I would like to thank my french friends to introduce me to Carnegies in HK. They set the grass on fire.

[QUOTE=Whomer]Didn't expect this. It is my first time in HK that I met a nice woman who went with me without being a WG. I guess it is not about something special, it is more about Saturday night, a fantastic evening in Carnegies and great people.[/QUOTE]
yeh, amazing!

[QUOTE=Gwailo]Well I think they shouldn't discriminate and welcome anyone in.[/QUOTE]

Smoking is a dirty, disgusting habit and smoking in bars, clubs etc. should be banned, and vigorously enforced.

Smokers, of course, should be free to smoke ... outside ... well outside!

Kiss a smoker and taste the difference!!!

Just my experience.

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