FKK Palace - Frankfurt

This sounds like a cover up job. I like the proverbial FKK promise. I. E. Nekked. I. E "what yee see, is what yee get ". Never mind this cover up. If the gal is trying to hide something. Then I do not want to pay to see stretch marks, or whatever.

This is unfortunate. I have always liked Palace but now may avoid.

By the way, who gives out the sanctioned "FKK" rating.? I. E. If lady's are no longer walking around naked, then the FKK designation is to be dropped?

Caveat Emptor!

Strato.

[QUOTE=Atooz]With all the complaints about how most girls are covered up most of the time at Palace, has any of you noticed that Palace has dropped the word "FKK" from its website (except for a small print on the Kontakt page) and their business cards? It now says "Gentlemen's Sauna Club" instead of "Gentlemen's FKK-Sauna Club", the latter was printed on the old card I still have from a few years ago but the former is what you will see on the new cards now.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Atooz]Saskia is 1 of my favorites and I've always found her attractive, from the very first time I saw her. What made her appealing to me is her classy and professional look, like the tall, slim, and pretty Lufthansa flight attendant that you had once fantasized banging. The best part is that she is very GFE and seems to enjoy sex too, at least when she is with me. I saw her a couple of times enjoying the porno movies in the kino by herself.

She does not usually actively market herself around the room but she does'nt need to as she seems to be busy most of the time. I'm quite surprised not to hear much mention of her in this forum, maybe she is a bit too mature for some (30 yo).
She speaks good English, never upsells and will do it in the kino with you if you ask. I still vividly remembered the nice bbbj she gave me on the couch the first time I met her.[/QUOTE]Atooz:

Thanks a lot for your comment on Saskia, now I am kicking myself again but this time twice as hard. I missed two chances to session with her and one of the reasons was that she looked "intimidating", meaning too attractive for high expectation. I hope she will still be there in the next few months when I try to make it back to Palace.

BTW, did she do CIM? Don't think this is a silly question. One normally would gladly accept this 50 Euro option but I have been rejected once (but only once) by a young German chick (at Palace) who was adamant about not offering CIM, all she wanted was a normal session for 50, the 50 extra did not entice her one bit.

[QUOTE=Cim Krickle]If you don't get the right vibe from a girl, its best not to try her.

For that reason, I had considered Michelle several times, but never actually gone with her.

But thanks for the report. You have saved me from ever considering her again.

Although girls like Angelina look incredibly hot, I have never got a good friendly vibe from her, therefore she never even gets tried by me.

You should have taken either Bee (Thai) or Mitsu (Japanese). Both very highly recommended indeed.

I have recently discovered that Mitsu does highly paid Escort work too. That's why she is missing sometimes or leaves at 1.00AM sometimes.

By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.

He went with Mitsu also for virtually the full hour, but only wanted to pay 50. Mitsu explained that it would be 100.
His reply "But I really like you" does not really help.

Hope it wasn't you, Sapswami (gee that's as hard to spell correctly as my handle - I nearly wrote Swapsami).

I also don't really like the rule (would prefer to pay for extra time pro-rata) but rules are rules. I was even suprised to learn that there is a rule that "come on body" costs 50 Euro, which is ridiculous in my book, since a normal 30 min session is only 50.

Fortunately kissing is no extra charge for most good girls.

To the Newbies at Palace on Thursday, sorry I didn't make it. Hope you found some of the highly recommended girls.[/QUOTE]Cim_Krickle:

In my 25 years of FKKing, I might have unintentionally gone over 30 minutes by five minutes once or twice. Since rules are rules and I am a rule-abiding FKKer, I had no problem paying the extra whether I liked it or not. As to staying more than 30 minutes intentionally, I have done that many times but each time I would get the provider's acknowledgment and mutual agreement on the new total price. Regarding this particular Indian guy intentionally trying to cheat the providers, he was simply asking for unnecessary trouble at an establishment where one should try to lay as low as possible.

[QUOTE=Cim Krickle]I have to downgrade Alice now.

She agreed her name is Alice, or Alize, or whatever way you want. Clearly not the real name.

Dark blonde with upper lip diamond and bolt-ons. I prefer real tits.

Not using gel is a problem, unless you want to screw for a very short time.

Turns out her BBBJ is a bit too strong for me. I prefer softer. While kissing is her best mode of operation, she now tells me that she doesn't really kiss. Why I got wonderful kissing is not clear.

Of course she will always kiss for extra money. Bummer!

I'll go back to my regulars who kiss just great for free thanks.

Indira is not really my favourite either although does blow well and has great tits. Not a GFE though.[/QUOTE]

I am also downgrading this chick: This chick has basically one asset - a very pretty face, that is it. However, this is a pretty hairy chick with a face fully of peach fuzz and legs like cactus. I still have streak marks in my palm from two weeks ago for running my hand down her legs. She walks around like she is a big little star, and little means she is less than 5 feet tall. I tried her once and it was kind of a waste of 50 Euros, simply nothing to write home about.

Yes, Palace is probably the only club in Germany where the extras have been defined through a pictogram card. And they do define COB as an extra. What does not mean that all girls do charge it. And it also does not imply that in other clubs (where it is not 100% defined as not an extra) you will not get charged a surplus. It's so easy: Talk to the girl and then decide where to put your load.

HB

[QUOTE=Cimlover]Atooz:

Thanks a lot for your comment on Saskia, now I am kicking myself again but this time twice as hard. I missed two chances to session with her and one of the reasons was that she looked "intimidating", meaning too attractive for high expectation. I hope she will still be there in the next few months when I try to make it back to Palace.

BTW, did she do CIM? Don't think this is a silly question. One normally would gladly accept this 50 Euro option but I have been rejected once (but only once) by a young German chick (at Palace) who was adamant about not offering CIM, all she wanted was a normal session for 50, the 50 extra did not entice her one bit.[/QUOTE]
I had never done CIM with Saskia but if I remembered correctly, she said yes when I once asked her, YMMV. Her looks and her tendency not to actively approach men can be intimidating. On the GASTEBUCH (Guestbook) page of the Palace website, some dudes gave Saskia, Mitsu, Natasha, Bee, and Nicoletta high praises. Assuming the posted comments were not manufactured by Palace management, their Guestbook page maybe another source of information about the girls at the club. Alas, most of the comments are in German.

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub]Yes, Palace is probably the only club in Germany where the extras have been defined through a pictogram card. [/QUOTE]

But in fact, the pictogram card is not useful to negotiate with girls who have their own rules.

[QUOTE=Strato]This sounds like a cover up job. I like the proverbial FKK promise. I. E. Nekked. I. E "what yee see, is what yee get ". Never mind this cover up. If the gal is trying to hide something. Then I do not want to pay to see stretch marks, or whatever.

This is unfortunate. I have always liked Palace but now may avoid.

By the way, who gives out the sanctioned "FKK" rating.? I. E. If lady's are no longer walking around naked, then the FKK designation is to be dropped?

Caveat Emptor!

Strato.[/QUOTE]
We can all voice our objection and displeasure on the Gaste-Check (Guest Check) page of Palace's website. They are soliciting for our "criticism / thoughts / wishes / suggestions for Improvement". If you're Anglophonic, just click on the Union Jack symbol before you proceed.

[QUOTE=Cim Krickle]
By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.

He went with Mitsu also for virtually the full hour, but only wanted to pay 50. Mitsu explained that it would be 100.
His reply "But I really like you" does not really help.
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"But I really like you." That's a new one. What was Mitsu's response?

Indian guy cheating the girl - I think the opposite is true, particularly for Palace. Guys (Indian or not) get cheated by the girls all the time e.g. not enough time in the room, CBJ. etc. But judging from the reports, you don't necessarily have to be Indian to receive a bad session at the Palace.

[QUOTE=Vito Corleone]"But I really like you." That's a new one. What was Mitsu's response?[/QUOTE]

Blimey! you running a complaint service for girls doing Indians? How did you manage to pickup this bit of chit chat? Happened right before you, did it?

[QUOTE]By the way. One Indian customer recently has been, trying to cheat the girls. Going to the room for 45 mins, the rules are that you must pay for full hour.
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What can one say? It was a big disappointment. The place was virtually empty and what was there was lifeless, the showers were cold and so was the jacuzzi. They seem to pick their girls from a single mould: east european with straight shoulder-length blonde hair and with conversation skills limited to finding out if you want to go to a room with them. I eventually had a kino session with Angelica from Russia (short brown hair, one of the rare exceptions to the mould) who does a devilish BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Linga]Blimey! you running a complaint service for girls doing Indians? How did you manage to pickup this bit of chit chat? Happened right before you, did it?[/QUOTE]I saw what I thought was same guy do it on two different occasions with girls I know to be very honest, and yes, right before my eyes, although didn't catch every single word of the conversations.

I only mention these things so that ISGers understand the rules at the Palace. Whether we agree with the rule or not, payment is for each 30 mins and a portion of 30 mins still costs same as full 30 mins. I don't like it either, but rules are rules. Just try to use each 30 mins as fully as possible.

Obviously there are bad girls that cheat customers, but not too many. This doesn't excuse customers, to cheat or try to get out of paying the full price either.

For all you FKK veterans out there, please skip to the section of this report called GIRLS. This report is intended for the FKK Newbie who is passing through Frankfurt with a few hours to kill and are looking to get a quick taste of the FKK. I guarantee it will bore you if you have been to Palace before. It has probably been a while since anyone has written a report on Palace from a first timer’s perspective so I thought I might do one in honor of my first experience.

As I reported in the General section, I was going to have a 7 hour layover in Frankfurt en-route to Budapest from the States so rather than sit in the Airline Lounge and swill whiskey I decided to check out what Frankfurt had to offer in terms of FKK. I looked on the Internet at both Palace and Oase as possibilities but decided that going to the Palace this time would be better just for ease of access and being my first time to Frankfurt. On a limited time budget, I didn’t really feel like going out to the country in search of Oase. But I should mention that there is an excellent video on You Tube that give step by step instruction on how to get to Oase from The Frankfurt Airport using public transit.

GETTING THERE
Navigating the airport and finding the train was quite easy. I made my way to the station purchased a ticket from the machine for 3.60 Euros and went down to track 1. In 10 minutes I was at Frankfurt Hft. (Central Terminal). I printed out a map to Palace on Konigsbergerstrasse thinking I would get a cab, but it was a gorgeous day and since I had been on a place all night I was ready to stretch my legs and walk. I found the Palace easily with the GPS on my Blackberry and the walk took me about 30 minutes as a brisk pace. My baggage was check all the way through to Budapest so I just had my cabin baggage. The one regret was that I did not leave my backpack at the train station in one of the lockers rather than drag it with me. BTW – the return taxi from Palace back to the train station was 10.15 Euro. For those of you wanting to try the surface tram, the Palace is right near the stop called “Industrial”.

THE FACILITIES
I arrived at Palace at about 11:30 AM and there was only one guy already there. The place was dead. I suppose I know what it was going to be like and I knew that it was not going to be ideal, but considering the time I guess I couldn’t complain. I arrived at the reception, paid my 75 Euros and got my locker key and my wrist band. As far as I can tell, the wristband is of little consequence except for the staff to tell who has paid and who has not. The locker key is two purposes. It opens and locks the locker in the change room (for your clothes) and it also opens and closes the small little lock box up front. Let me make the distinction between the lock box and the locker. The lock box is up front near the reception and across from the small bar. It is in full view of people coming and going and seems to be strategically located for the financial transactions between you and the girls. This is the place you can put your money. My suggestion that is that you put only your money in this lock box. By the way – the lock box is also handy to the little bar where you can now buy some limited alcoholic beverages. Although I cannot imagine why you would want to because it is probably the most expensive booze I have ever seen. I believe I saw that 50 grams (ML) of Johnny Walker Black label was 25 Euros so if you need any sedation you are best to get it before you arrive. I should say that the FKK bears some very striking similarities to the Termas of Rio de Janeiro, but the distinct discouragement of alcohol is not one of them.

The reception will give you a robe and as you walk into the locker room you can help yourself to a towel or two. Once in the locker room you can find the locker that corresponds to the number on your key. It comes with its own wrist band so that you don’t lose it. Inside the locker is a pair of flip-flop sandals, a couple of coat hangers and a small safe with a 3 digit combination that you can program. Perfect for passport, watch, jewelry, etc. Unfortunately, the locker is not huge with my carry-on bag from the plane it was a bit of a tight fit. The shower room is basic but comfortable. Being Monday morning it seemed to take forever to get the hot water going in the shower but I suppose that’s to be expected.

Once I took a rinse I proceeded to the lounge area. I wanted to take a shave since traveling all night but considering the cold water I thought “forget it”. I got into my robe and wandered into the main area. As you come out of the locker room there’s a small buffet set up. Being early there was a continental breakfast available with plenty of juice and coffee. As there were almost no girls hanging about I decided to grab an espresso and a croissant and see if I could find a newspaper. Since there were almost no other people there, it gave me an opportunity to look around. It really is a nice facility with a number of lounge rooms laid out in sort of a random arrangement in addition to the private rooms for sex. For the smokers there are also one or two rooms where you can light up. There is a large main room that is sort of the focus of the place. As you can imagine it was pretty much empty. The few guys that had been coming in were “perching” themselves in spots around the place and wandering off into dark corners where there were very comfortable couches with big soft cushions and throw pillows. It all reminded me a bit of a Harem (not like I’ve seen one) or a Pasha’s Palace.


THE GIRLS
I saw a sign that said Steam Sauna and decided that was exactly what I needed after the long flight. There is also a large dry sauna and a large pool that I think is a Jacuzzi in an elevated area just off the main hall. After a good steam I gave the shave another try back at the locker room and felt much better. I noticed that back by the steam sauna there was a quiet little reading lounge with a u-shaped couch and little reading lights so I went up to the reception, found a copy of the Wall Street Journal, grabbed another espresso and wander back hoping that the number of girls would increase. The few that I had seen up to that point were nothing spectacular. Like I said before, being Monday morning during summer I was going to be getting the “B Team” for sure. The Receptionist apologized in advance for the selection saying that a lot of girls were away for vacation that that things would pick up in another few weeks. Most of the girls had dark hair and appeared to be a little bit “soft”. Droopy breasts and round faces. I saw one very pretty Asian girl but she was already engaged in conversation with another guy. There was one bleach blond who seemed to have a decent body but had a real scowl on her face so I gave her a pass. There was also another large black girl from the Dominican Republic but she was not my type. I should also say at this moment that about half the girsl were wearing some sort of lingere and the other half were buck naked except for shoes and stockings. The ones with something to hide were covering it up and the girls with good bodies were showing it off….. just as it should be.

Armed with my coffee and paper I was heading back to the reading room when I passed a nice looking naked girl with Slavic features and dirty blond hair. She smiled as I passed and I turned to give her a second look. Nice little butt and small perky tits. Not saggy, but kind of small. Certainly fuckable that’s for sure.

I made myself comfortable and started reading. But it was not long before the Slavic blond came up and said hello. She rattled off something in German and I relied with the one of the only German phrases I know, “Ich fershtaya ein bisyen Deutche” (sorry for the spelling) and asked if she spoke English. She said that she only spoke a little English and that she was from Ukraine. What a bit of luck – I switched to Russian and we became fast pals. She asked if I wanted privacy to read or could she come and join me. If she did not speak any Russian I probably would have given her a pass as I could see that she was no “spring chicken” guessing that she must have been about 30 ‘ish. Her name was Natasha and is from Donetsk telling me that she is the only Ukrainian girl at Palace at this time. I was able to ask her some questions about the club and learned that the majority of the girls at this time seem to be from the Baltic States like Latvia and Estonia with a few Poles and Czechs as well plus the usual contingent of German and Austrian girls as well as a few exotics.

She asked if I wanted another espresso and maybe a glass of water and ran off to get them. A very pleasant girl who seemed eager to please. So far – so good. When she returned we chatted a little more and she started kissing me on the lips which gave way to some nice DFK. She positioned herself in such a way as to let me suck on her tits for a while which was really enjoyable for about 10 or 15 minutes. The place we were sitting was quite secluded viewable only from the entrance to the massage room which was not going to be open until 2:00 PM so we had a little privacy. She leaned over open my robe and started sucking my dick. Nothing too vigorous but very casual licking and teasing while I played with her pussy with my free hand. This must have gone on for another 15 minutes which surprised the hell out of me because I thought that these FKK clubs were all business and strictly on the clock (like everything else in Germany – ha, ha). After a while I started to feel like we needed to move the party to a room. I was full ready now and certainly did not want to embarrass myself on my first visit to an FKK. I asked how much and Natasha told me 50 Euro for 30 minutes plus extra. Considering the slim pickings I decided that an hour would be the best bet so off we went to a private room for more sucking and fucking. She gave a very nice deep throat BBBJ and was quite enthusiastic about trying all positions while we chatted the whole time in a funny mix of Russian and Ukrainian. Lots of laughs. I really enjoyed my time with Natasha especially considering the extra time up front. I don’t know if this is normal or not but I must say it was probably the most pleasant “interview” I have had in a very long time. She was a friendly and fun girl who seemed to be eager to give me a good first impression of Palace. She wandered back to the lockboxes where I took out a 100 Euro note as she gave me a very nice parting kiss and disappeared into the Girls Room.

After another steam and shower I went to the bar to get some water. Sitting down at the bar I certainly noticed that things were picking up. More and more talent was arriving and a beautiful girl with dark hair and features went behind the bar to help herself to a Fanta. She looked over and smiled showing me a beautiful set of teeth. She had a very tight body with small but very firm, round tits. She came over and introduced herself as Gulszha (I think) from Anatolia in Turkey. I would never have guessed her for a Turk but she was very pretty and really sexy. I glanced at her watch and saw that is was getting on 2:45 PM. I really wanted to be heading out by 3:00 PM (as I had a flight to Budapest at 4:50 PM) and toyed with the idea of another 30 minute quickie. But I hate being rushed and decided that there was not time for the interview I wanted to conduct plus the session so I gave it a pass. I’m not sure little Jake would have been able to keep up after the workout with Natasha either so I headed for the locker room to change.

When I came out there were even MORE beauties just arriving and I could see that my timing was bad. But hey, it was better spent than sitting at the airport. I collected my things, asked the lady at reception to call me a taxi and enjoyed once more espresso for the road. A quick taxi to the train station and back to the airport for a leisurely walk to my plane which had just started to board.

Total cost:
Train fare into Frankfurt – 3.70 Euro
Entrance to Palace – 75 Euro
Taxi to train station – 10.15 Euro
Train fare back to Airport – 3.70
One big FKK induced smile on my face and sleeping all the way on the flight to Budapest? – PRICELESS!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE=Jake993]She positioned herself in such a way as to let me sick on her tits for a while which was really enjoyable for about 10 or 15 minutes.[/QUOTE]Rare that I get a belly laugh on a Tuesday morning, but the graphic vision this astonishingly long eruption provoked did it for me for sure. Glad you enjoyed it so much. What a girl indeed! LOL.

Thanks for the great report.